1 00:00:01,535 --> 00:00:03,036 [somber music playing] 2 00:00:03,136 --> 00:00:04,204 Oh, my. 3 00:00:08,141 --> 00:00:09,376 This picture. 4 00:00:11,879 --> 00:00:12,880 The twins, 5 00:00:14,214 --> 00:00:15,816 oh, they may have been... 6 00:00:17,117 --> 00:00:19,186 two weeks old when we had this. 7 00:00:20,220 --> 00:00:22,656 It's strange when you look at this picture, 8 00:00:22,756 --> 00:00:24,491 how Philip can look so... 9 00:00:25,959 --> 00:00:27,361 harmless. 10 00:00:27,461 --> 00:00:31,798 He looks like he's excited and happy to be a dad. 11 00:00:31,899 --> 00:00:34,001 How can you turn into such a vicious person? 12 00:00:44,344 --> 00:00:47,781 [reporter] Susan Sutton has been waiting five long years for answers 13 00:00:47,881 --> 00:00:49,917 to what happened to her 19-year-old daughter. 14 00:00:50,017 --> 00:00:53,554 Becky Sutton went missing from a Hollister home in 2003. 15 00:00:53,654 --> 00:00:56,723 Her two-year-old son left behind. 16 00:00:56,823 --> 00:01:00,561 [Sherry] He was able to lie to me and get by so easily 17 00:01:00,661 --> 00:01:03,297 that I did not pick up on the cues 18 00:01:04,598 --> 00:01:09,903 to go from this wonderful, loving nurse, compassionate, 19 00:01:11,638 --> 00:01:13,407 took his children to church, 20 00:01:14,541 --> 00:01:16,476 and to-- 21 00:01:16,577 --> 00:01:17,978 end up as a monster. 22 00:01:21,081 --> 00:01:22,249 How did he get to that? 23 00:01:25,519 --> 00:01:29,289 The feelings I have now, looking back how he trapped me, 24 00:01:30,757 --> 00:01:34,127 it's embarrassment. I should have looked closer. 25 00:01:34,227 --> 00:01:36,029 I should've-- 26 00:01:36,129 --> 00:01:41,001 I should have seen some signs. And I feel foolish. 27 00:01:41,101 --> 00:01:44,938 I just tried to be a good mom and a good wife to him, 28 00:01:45,038 --> 00:01:48,642 and I was fooled. How could I have been so off? 29 00:01:50,410 --> 00:01:52,913 I just... I just don't understand. 30 00:01:56,850 --> 00:01:57,818 Sorry. 31 00:02:03,624 --> 00:02:06,560 [The Paper Chase's "What's So Amazing About Grace?" plays] 32 00:02:06,660 --> 00:02:08,395 [strings continue playing sinister tune] 33 00:02:09,396 --> 00:02:11,131 [static crackling] 34 00:02:14,434 --> 00:02:17,004 - [knock at door] - [creaking] 35 00:02:26,446 --> 00:02:28,148 [water dripping] 36 00:02:29,149 --> 00:02:32,185 - [knock at door] - [creaking] 37 00:02:32,285 --> 00:02:33,620 [sinister chord strikes] 38 00:02:39,526 --> 00:02:41,662 I was not looking for a relationship 39 00:02:41,762 --> 00:02:43,830 when I met Philip Dodd. 40 00:02:43,930 --> 00:02:45,298 I was not. 41 00:02:47,601 --> 00:02:51,638 My husband and I, at the time, went through a divorce. 42 00:02:51,738 --> 00:02:56,743 That was very, very devastating to me, realizing that I made 43 00:02:56,843 --> 00:02:58,045 a mess of something. 44 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,651 Philip and I met in 2005, 45 00:03:04,751 --> 00:03:09,756 and I met him working at a long-term care facility. 46 00:03:09,856 --> 00:03:14,061 I was a registered nurse, and he was a licensed, 47 00:03:14,161 --> 00:03:19,566 practical nurse, and I admired his practices as a nurse, 48 00:03:19,666 --> 00:03:22,769 very competent, very caring. 49 00:03:22,869 --> 00:03:26,707 He also told me he had two children living with him 50 00:03:26,807 --> 00:03:31,178 that he had custody of and that he took them to church. 51 00:03:31,278 --> 00:03:33,880 I thought, "My gosh!" It was almost like he was 52 00:03:33,980 --> 00:03:35,449 too good to be true. 53 00:03:46,293 --> 00:03:48,261 [eerie tunes playing] 54 00:03:58,905 --> 00:04:02,743 [Sherry] Philip was my first relationship after the divorce. 55 00:04:02,843 --> 00:04:07,147 And when I brought him to meet my family, I was so proud. 56 00:04:07,247 --> 00:04:10,650 I knew they were going to be impressed. 57 00:04:10,751 --> 00:04:14,588 I knew they would see what I saw. 58 00:04:14,688 --> 00:04:17,023 And I was showing him off to my family 59 00:04:17,124 --> 00:04:19,459 and gaining their acceptance and approval. 60 00:04:20,527 --> 00:04:22,963 When we were there, Philip seemed to be 61 00:04:23,063 --> 00:04:26,032 blending in fine with them. 62 00:04:26,133 --> 00:04:28,668 I saw him visiting with everybody. 63 00:04:28,769 --> 00:04:32,072 It seemed to be a good mood. I was thrilled. 64 00:04:32,172 --> 00:04:35,509 I thought he was getting along with everyone, 65 00:04:35,609 --> 00:04:38,578 but I was mistaken. 66 00:04:38,678 --> 00:04:41,481 [sinister music playing] 67 00:04:41,581 --> 00:04:44,851 [Sherry] After the family get-together, my brother said, 68 00:04:44,951 --> 00:04:47,921 "Hey, I wanted to let you know something." 69 00:04:48,021 --> 00:04:49,055 He said, "You know, 70 00:04:49,156 --> 00:04:51,725 we really weren't impressed by Philip." 71 00:04:52,759 --> 00:04:54,828 He said, "Mom really wasn't." 72 00:04:56,763 --> 00:04:58,265 And I was confused. 73 00:04:58,365 --> 00:05:01,368 It did not portray that way to me. 74 00:05:02,435 --> 00:05:08,942 And I specifically asked him, "What did Philip do or say 75 00:05:09,042 --> 00:05:12,179 that made you not like him or offended by him?" 76 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,616 He said, "Sis, I just felt he was a bad person." 77 00:05:20,153 --> 00:05:22,222 Very shocking, very shocking. 78 00:05:22,322 --> 00:05:25,792 I-- that's complete opposite of what I thought. 79 00:05:25,892 --> 00:05:29,196 And he said, "Mom thought exactly the same." 80 00:05:29,296 --> 00:05:31,698 And I said, "Did he say something?" 81 00:05:31,798 --> 00:05:35,602 And he said, "No, we just got that vibe from him. 82 00:05:35,702 --> 00:05:37,037 There was something wrong." 83 00:05:38,905 --> 00:05:42,409 I stayed with Philip because I didn't see 84 00:05:42,509 --> 00:05:44,811 what everybody else saw. 85 00:05:44,911 --> 00:05:49,516 I thought, "Maybe this one time, my family's wrong." 86 00:06:00,660 --> 00:06:03,396 I've been diabetic since I was 19, 87 00:06:03,496 --> 00:06:08,568 requiring insulin and frequent blood glucose checks. 88 00:06:08,668 --> 00:06:11,404 I believe, with his nursing background, 89 00:06:11,504 --> 00:06:14,007 Philip wanted to care for me. 90 00:06:14,107 --> 00:06:17,477 He wanted to be checking to see if my blood sugar was good 91 00:06:17,577 --> 00:06:21,548 or if I needed to eat. He was very on top of that. 92 00:06:21,648 --> 00:06:23,149 It made me feel loved. 93 00:06:24,551 --> 00:06:27,420 It made me feel that he was very concerned 94 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,122 and worried about me. 95 00:06:32,192 --> 00:06:35,195 One day, it was very odd. 96 00:06:37,464 --> 00:06:39,232 I became so sick, 97 00:06:41,034 --> 00:06:43,470 so sick, and... 98 00:06:43,570 --> 00:06:46,139 I know my blood sugars were running high, 99 00:06:46,239 --> 00:06:49,843 and all I wanted to do was sleep. 100 00:06:51,578 --> 00:06:53,980 He appears to be taking care of me. 101 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,852 He's checking my blood sugar, and oddly enough, 102 00:06:58,952 --> 00:07:01,354 he's giving me insulin. 103 00:07:01,454 --> 00:07:05,759 All I remember is him saying, "I'm giving you some insulin." 104 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,665 I remember nothing after that. Nothing. 105 00:07:13,099 --> 00:07:16,569 I was in a haze the whole time I was there. 106 00:07:17,771 --> 00:07:22,776 I couldn't tell you, remembering eating or anything. 107 00:07:24,377 --> 00:07:28,715 It's almost like he kept me there on purpose. 108 00:07:30,383 --> 00:07:33,653 In this state that I was in. 109 00:07:34,688 --> 00:07:37,691 It was almost as if I had been drugged. 110 00:07:39,459 --> 00:07:43,430 I was there, I'd say, at least three days. 111 00:07:47,934 --> 00:07:49,869 Looking back at that event, 112 00:07:51,137 --> 00:07:53,907 after everything I found out later, 113 00:07:54,007 --> 00:07:56,042 it's frightening to say, 114 00:07:56,142 --> 00:07:58,645 but I've thought about that, if he could have been 115 00:07:58,745 --> 00:08:02,682 taking advantage of me while I was there 116 00:08:02,782 --> 00:08:04,985 unconscious for those three days. 117 00:08:08,254 --> 00:08:12,025 That does-- that does cross my mind, 118 00:08:12,125 --> 00:08:14,961 and, to this day, I still don't wanna know. 119 00:08:16,196 --> 00:08:17,630 [producer] Do you think he's capable of that? 120 00:08:19,666 --> 00:08:22,135 I honestly think he's capable of that, yes. 121 00:08:25,205 --> 00:08:28,641 But, again, I saw him as this great nurse 122 00:08:29,642 --> 00:08:31,478 and he was taking care of me. 123 00:08:34,381 --> 00:08:36,082 So I tried to overlook 124 00:08:37,317 --> 00:08:38,318 the bad. 125 00:08:43,757 --> 00:08:48,094 Philip and I, we were together five months 126 00:08:48,194 --> 00:08:51,097 before I found out I was pregnant with the twins. 127 00:08:52,866 --> 00:08:57,337 I was excited, but I could tell he wasn't excited. 128 00:08:58,838 --> 00:09:01,107 I thought he was acting differently towards me 129 00:09:01,207 --> 00:09:03,476 because he really didn't want the babies. 130 00:09:03,576 --> 00:09:04,844 And it was kind of sad. 131 00:09:06,413 --> 00:09:11,384 And throughout the pregnancy, I didn't have anything 132 00:09:11,484 --> 00:09:12,819 for a child, a baby. 133 00:09:13,853 --> 00:09:17,157 And it was at that time when I told him I was gonna go 134 00:09:17,257 --> 00:09:21,027 get some furniture and some clothes and diapers, 135 00:09:21,127 --> 00:09:23,229 he told me absolutely not. 136 00:09:24,898 --> 00:09:28,768 And I specifically asked him then, 137 00:09:28,868 --> 00:09:31,738 why I couldn't go buy anything. 138 00:09:31,838 --> 00:09:35,308 And he told me, "The twins may not make it." 139 00:09:39,746 --> 00:09:41,247 I was shocked. 140 00:09:41,347 --> 00:09:46,686 I've never heard of anyone, a spouse or partner, 141 00:09:46,786 --> 00:09:50,723 saying that to any female that was pregnant, 142 00:09:50,824 --> 00:09:52,859 that they may not make it. 143 00:09:53,927 --> 00:09:56,362 When there was no reason to say that. 144 00:09:58,064 --> 00:10:00,133 He said it was because of my health. 145 00:10:01,501 --> 00:10:06,072 Just a generic response, that he knew that they probably 146 00:10:06,172 --> 00:10:07,173 wouldn't make it. 147 00:10:10,276 --> 00:10:13,213 For me, seeing this side of him, 148 00:10:14,447 --> 00:10:15,715 it breaks my heart. 149 00:10:16,716 --> 00:10:19,586 It breaks my heart for my children 150 00:10:19,686 --> 00:10:24,357 that he could actually feel that way and not love them. 151 00:10:28,261 --> 00:10:30,263 But this goes deeper. 152 00:10:31,698 --> 00:10:35,468 A person that can say that, to me, is a monster. 153 00:10:35,568 --> 00:10:36,870 Monster. 154 00:10:36,970 --> 00:10:39,506 I don't know that he was planning on doing something 155 00:10:39,606 --> 00:10:42,342 to me to lose the babies, but it made me 156 00:10:42,442 --> 00:10:44,177 even more protective over 'em. 157 00:10:45,812 --> 00:10:48,381 It did. I-- I knew... 158 00:10:49,916 --> 00:10:51,551 I knew something wasn't right. 159 00:11:00,326 --> 00:11:04,264 My ex husband was a police officer 160 00:11:04,364 --> 00:11:10,303 at the time in Carl Junction and came up to me one day 161 00:11:10,403 --> 00:11:12,338 and he said, 162 00:11:12,438 --> 00:11:16,342 "I think there's some issues you need to look into 163 00:11:16,442 --> 00:11:20,013 because he's not who he seems." 164 00:11:20,113 --> 00:11:23,316 That Philip had a past and I needed 165 00:11:24,384 --> 00:11:26,052 to do my research. 166 00:11:29,355 --> 00:11:31,724 No. This is not my Philip. 167 00:11:31,824 --> 00:11:34,561 This is not Philip that I know. 168 00:11:34,661 --> 00:11:36,196 Be careful. 169 00:11:36,296 --> 00:11:40,033 [Sherry] I assumed that he was just being jealous that I was 170 00:11:40,133 --> 00:11:43,970 having a good life and moving on without him. 171 00:11:45,371 --> 00:11:48,708 Even though I didn't fully believe my ex husband, 172 00:11:48,808 --> 00:11:50,743 it was still in the back of my brain. 173 00:11:54,881 --> 00:11:56,883 [uneasy tones playing] 174 00:12:00,620 --> 00:12:04,090 That evening, I went to ask, and I said to Philip-- 175 00:12:04,190 --> 00:12:05,191 You OK? 176 00:12:06,259 --> 00:12:10,830 "My ex-husband said, I need to look at you." 177 00:12:10,930 --> 00:12:12,966 You know, and I just kind of laughed it off, 178 00:12:13,066 --> 00:12:14,634 but I was still looking. 179 00:12:14,734 --> 00:12:16,970 And I said, "Why would there be someone saying 180 00:12:17,070 --> 00:12:19,239 that you're a person of interest?" 181 00:12:20,773 --> 00:12:23,443 He tensed up a little bit. 182 00:12:23,543 --> 00:12:26,312 He goes, "I didn't do anything." 183 00:12:26,412 --> 00:12:30,149 He goes, "The reason I am a person of interest 184 00:12:30,250 --> 00:12:34,220 "is because when I lived in Branson West, 185 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,658 there was a girl in Hollister I was hanging around with," 186 00:12:38,758 --> 00:12:44,397 that he just went over to party and have sexual encounters 187 00:12:44,497 --> 00:12:47,700 with her, and that she didn't really wanna do 188 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:48,801 anything with him. 189 00:12:48,901 --> 00:12:52,538 So he left and doesn't know what happened after. 190 00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:56,909 But the next morning, she ended up deceased. 191 00:13:09,022 --> 00:13:14,093 It was shocking when he told me that it was actually regarding 192 00:13:14,193 --> 00:13:16,829 someone that had died. 193 00:13:16,929 --> 00:13:19,699 The thought of him doing something so horrible 194 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:24,270 with as kind as he is, no, it didn't-- it didn't add up. 195 00:13:24,370 --> 00:13:28,274 And I still believe to this day, 196 00:13:28,374 --> 00:13:30,810 I didn't want to believe that. 197 00:13:30,910 --> 00:13:36,115 I continued to deny the signs and say, "That's not Philip." 198 00:13:51,397 --> 00:13:56,569 As I'm pulling up to my house, there are patrol cars outside, 199 00:13:56,669 --> 00:13:58,304 state patrol cars. 200 00:13:59,539 --> 00:14:02,408 And I can see they've already gone in. 201 00:14:03,543 --> 00:14:05,244 I walk in the door. 202 00:14:07,380 --> 00:14:10,083 It was like a punch in the stomach for me. 203 00:14:11,784 --> 00:14:15,355 Officers are in there just going through my stuff, 204 00:14:15,455 --> 00:14:17,757 personal things of mine, even. 205 00:14:17,857 --> 00:14:21,227 It's-- I can't explain that feeling. 206 00:14:21,327 --> 00:14:23,196 When someone is going through 207 00:14:23,296 --> 00:14:27,333 your life, your house, your things, 208 00:14:27,433 --> 00:14:29,369 if they're gonna find something, what are they 209 00:14:29,469 --> 00:14:32,238 looking for exactly? 210 00:14:32,338 --> 00:14:33,339 I don't know. 211 00:14:34,607 --> 00:14:38,578 I realized the search had to do with Rebecca's murder 212 00:14:38,678 --> 00:14:41,547 and realizing, "Yes, they're looking for clues 213 00:14:43,316 --> 00:14:45,618 regarding Philip and this murder." 214 00:14:49,155 --> 00:14:51,924 The officers had the things and left, 215 00:14:52,024 --> 00:14:55,328 and then it was just Philip and I in the room. 216 00:14:56,996 --> 00:14:58,965 I was-- I was a nervous wreck. 217 00:14:59,065 --> 00:15:02,802 I was very unhinged at the time, 218 00:15:03,903 --> 00:15:08,508 and he is just appearing very confident to me, 219 00:15:08,608 --> 00:15:11,978 like, "They're not gonna find anything." 220 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:17,383 I did ask him, "Why are they still after you? 221 00:15:17,483 --> 00:15:20,453 "What-- what could be with this case 222 00:15:20,553 --> 00:15:25,892 "that they're not finding or ruling you out? 223 00:15:25,992 --> 00:15:27,593 Why do they continue?" 224 00:15:29,061 --> 00:15:33,966 And he responds, like, they've just got him singled out. 225 00:15:35,101 --> 00:15:36,202 [producer] Did you believe him? 226 00:15:40,373 --> 00:15:43,543 I partially believed him. It could happen to anyone. 227 00:15:43,643 --> 00:15:47,079 They could be singling him out, the wrong person. 228 00:15:47,180 --> 00:15:50,283 But I'm realizing at this point... 229 00:15:50,383 --> 00:15:52,084 Something's not adding up. 230 00:16:04,363 --> 00:16:07,867 [reporter] Susan Sutton has been waiting five long years for answers 231 00:16:07,967 --> 00:16:10,069 to what happened to her 19-year-old daughter. 232 00:16:10,169 --> 00:16:11,704 We're reexamining the evidence, 233 00:16:11,804 --> 00:16:14,106 are talking to witnesses, past witnesses. 234 00:16:14,207 --> 00:16:16,409 [reporter] Becky Sutton went missing from her Hollister home 235 00:16:16,509 --> 00:16:17,810 in 2003. 236 00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:20,079 Her two-year-old son left behind. 237 00:16:22,515 --> 00:16:24,250 [sighs softly] 238 00:16:25,685 --> 00:16:27,053 It makes me angry, 239 00:16:28,488 --> 00:16:30,590 angry that someone could do that 240 00:16:31,824 --> 00:16:35,761 to her, 19, and a two-year-old child. 241 00:16:37,430 --> 00:16:40,600 I feel guilty seeing this, I-- I-- 242 00:16:40,700 --> 00:16:42,668 My heart goes out to that little boy 243 00:16:42,768 --> 00:16:46,572 that doesn't even have a mom. A child without a mom. 244 00:16:47,740 --> 00:16:48,941 How can you do that? 245 00:16:50,776 --> 00:16:52,245 What kind of person does that? 246 00:16:53,713 --> 00:16:57,149 I didn't want to believe then he had done something 247 00:16:57,250 --> 00:16:59,051 like that. 248 00:16:59,151 --> 00:17:00,953 You don't want to believe that. 249 00:17:04,790 --> 00:17:07,093 It's just beyond imagination. 250 00:17:10,963 --> 00:17:13,699 I stopped staying with Philip 251 00:17:13,799 --> 00:17:16,736 immediately after the police came. 252 00:17:16,836 --> 00:17:19,906 I tell him I'm not coming back. 253 00:17:20,006 --> 00:17:22,308 I will not be back. 254 00:17:22,408 --> 00:17:26,879 I have moved out. I think I know this person, 255 00:17:26,979 --> 00:17:28,314 but what if I don't? 256 00:17:30,149 --> 00:17:31,817 That's the way I felt with Philip. 257 00:17:42,695 --> 00:17:47,033 This picture is right after the twins were born. 258 00:17:49,335 --> 00:17:55,508 At this time, he and I were separated. 259 00:17:55,608 --> 00:17:56,742 I was scared, 260 00:17:58,945 --> 00:18:03,349 not knowing what the future held with me and them, 261 00:18:03,449 --> 00:18:06,018 but I was gonna make it work. 262 00:18:08,788 --> 00:18:10,122 They renewed me. 263 00:18:11,157 --> 00:18:12,658 Oh, I love those kids. 264 00:18:14,493 --> 00:18:16,429 Looking back, it's hard to believe they could be 265 00:18:16,529 --> 00:18:19,398 so tiny and helpless. 266 00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:25,204 And I knew I wanted to protect them with all my might. 267 00:18:25,304 --> 00:18:27,974 Nothing else mattered in my life right then. 268 00:18:40,252 --> 00:18:43,789 Had no one else to turn to but Philip Dodd. 269 00:18:43,889 --> 00:18:46,692 I hadn't seen anything violent from him. 270 00:18:46,792 --> 00:18:51,364 I didn't believe he could do something violent. 271 00:18:51,464 --> 00:18:56,268 And again, I got scared and thought I had to have him. 272 00:18:56,369 --> 00:18:59,071 And I'm sure that happens to a lot of people, 273 00:18:59,171 --> 00:19:03,509 getting scared of their future without, 274 00:19:03,609 --> 00:19:06,612 you know, someone that's capable of working 275 00:19:06,712 --> 00:19:09,548 and help bringing in income. 276 00:19:09,649 --> 00:19:11,350 It would have been two or three weeks 277 00:19:11,450 --> 00:19:13,386 after the babies were born 278 00:19:13,486 --> 00:19:15,988 that Philip and I got back together. 279 00:19:16,088 --> 00:19:18,591 I just wanted to fix it. 280 00:19:18,691 --> 00:19:21,694 He definitely knew I was vulnerable. 281 00:19:21,794 --> 00:19:23,596 He definitely knew that. 282 00:19:23,696 --> 00:19:26,666 And I do think he took advantage of the situation. 283 00:19:26,766 --> 00:19:30,036 But I was hoping that he would go back 284 00:19:30,136 --> 00:19:32,638 to the Philip I knew and loved 285 00:19:32,738 --> 00:19:36,676 when I first met him, so caring and... 286 00:19:36,776 --> 00:19:37,977 confident. 287 00:19:48,354 --> 00:19:51,757 We were over by this wedding place, 288 00:19:51,857 --> 00:19:53,626 where you can walk in and walk out 289 00:19:53,726 --> 00:19:57,029 and get married, he's like, "Hey, you wanna get married?" 290 00:19:58,864 --> 00:20:01,133 It came up off the cuff! 291 00:20:01,233 --> 00:20:05,538 I had shorts on and tennis shoes and... 292 00:20:05,638 --> 00:20:08,774 I'll have to admit, that did seem romantic, 293 00:20:08,874 --> 00:20:10,943 him being spontaneous like that. 294 00:20:11,043 --> 00:20:12,945 Yes, that got my attention. 295 00:20:13,045 --> 00:20:16,816 That would be the man that I fell in love with, yes. 296 00:20:18,417 --> 00:20:19,919 I said, "OK, let's do it." 297 00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:24,156 And we walked in there and got married. 298 00:20:24,256 --> 00:20:25,624 I was full of hope. 299 00:20:35,568 --> 00:20:38,838 This was the wedding ring Philip gave me. 300 00:20:42,341 --> 00:20:44,810 It meant so much to me. 301 00:20:46,579 --> 00:20:48,481 I've kept it all these years. 302 00:20:51,283 --> 00:20:52,585 I don't know why, I... 303 00:20:54,053 --> 00:20:57,490 I lived a nightmare with him, but... 304 00:20:57,590 --> 00:21:00,192 this represents my dreams I had with him. 305 00:21:03,062 --> 00:21:06,065 I actually was in love with him at a time, 306 00:21:07,933 --> 00:21:09,468 a long time ago. 307 00:21:20,713 --> 00:21:23,382 So, one day, I was in the passenger seat. 308 00:21:23,482 --> 00:21:25,584 Philip was driving. 309 00:21:25,684 --> 00:21:27,853 The twins were in the middle seat, 310 00:21:27,953 --> 00:21:30,356 and his kids were in the seat back behind there, 311 00:21:30,456 --> 00:21:32,158 both of his boys. 312 00:21:32,258 --> 00:21:37,363 I found out Philip had some severe money problems. 313 00:21:37,463 --> 00:21:42,034 It appeared it was all related to his gambling addiction. 314 00:21:42,134 --> 00:21:45,237 I make a comment offhand. 315 00:21:45,337 --> 00:21:47,473 He angers like that. 316 00:21:49,575 --> 00:21:53,979 I had never seen him that angry. I'd seen him angry, 317 00:21:54,079 --> 00:21:56,649 but I'd never seen him like this. 318 00:21:56,749 --> 00:21:59,718 And I looked into his eyes. 319 00:21:59,819 --> 00:22:02,321 I didn't know who he was. 320 00:22:03,856 --> 00:22:07,493 The next thing I know, he's reached over 321 00:22:07,593 --> 00:22:09,061 from the driver's seat. 322 00:22:09,161 --> 00:22:12,998 He's got his hands around me, choking me. 323 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,070 I thought, what do I do? 324 00:22:18,170 --> 00:22:21,740 I'd never had anyone choke me, so I didn't know what to do? 325 00:22:21,841 --> 00:22:23,709 You just automatically grab 326 00:22:23,809 --> 00:22:27,146 and try to get their hands off of you. 327 00:22:27,246 --> 00:22:29,248 And crying out, "Please, 328 00:22:29,348 --> 00:22:31,917 please don't do this in front of these kids." 329 00:22:33,185 --> 00:22:35,855 I was screaming, "Get off of me. 330 00:22:35,955 --> 00:22:37,790 Please leave me alone." 331 00:22:39,158 --> 00:22:44,096 I was crying. And finally, he-- he came to. 332 00:22:45,664 --> 00:22:47,399 And he took his hands off me. 333 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,374 Very traumatic. 334 00:22:56,475 --> 00:22:58,444 I know it had to have been traumatic for his kids, 335 00:22:58,544 --> 00:23:00,145 seeing that. 336 00:23:00,246 --> 00:23:01,580 And to him, it was nothing. 337 00:23:03,215 --> 00:23:04,783 It's like, "You deserved it. 338 00:23:06,518 --> 00:23:08,153 You got me mad. You deserved it." 339 00:23:09,421 --> 00:23:12,157 I'm still crying and screaming. 340 00:23:13,292 --> 00:23:15,227 I was saying, "You son of a bitch, 341 00:23:15,327 --> 00:23:17,763 get out of my damn vehicle!" 342 00:23:18,964 --> 00:23:22,935 I said, "Don't come around me or these twins again. 343 00:23:23,035 --> 00:23:24,470 Don't ever come around us." 344 00:23:24,570 --> 00:23:26,038 You will never see me or the twins! 345 00:23:26,138 --> 00:23:28,674 And I got the heck outta there. 346 00:23:34,413 --> 00:23:37,750 Knowing that he would attack me physically, 347 00:23:40,286 --> 00:23:43,555 then it was becoming real. 348 00:23:45,524 --> 00:23:47,059 It was becoming real. 349 00:23:49,194 --> 00:23:50,796 If the kids hadn't been in the car, 350 00:23:50,896 --> 00:23:54,099 I believe he would have taken it another step. 351 00:23:56,101 --> 00:23:57,770 I truly believe that. 352 00:23:57,870 --> 00:23:59,171 I don't-- I-- 353 00:24:00,739 --> 00:24:02,341 I don't think he would have held back. 354 00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:03,709 [producer] Do you think he would have killed you? 355 00:24:05,577 --> 00:24:07,212 I think he would have came close. 356 00:24:13,719 --> 00:24:16,522 [Sherry] After that, I didn't feel safe. 357 00:24:16,622 --> 00:24:19,391 I was honestly scared for myself, 358 00:24:19,491 --> 00:24:24,663 seeing him in such a rage like I'd never seen before. 359 00:24:24,763 --> 00:24:27,032 He was getting worse, 360 00:24:27,132 --> 00:24:29,868 and I didn't want to fear what would-- 361 00:24:29,969 --> 00:24:31,103 what would come next. 362 00:24:44,883 --> 00:24:47,553 I didn't think anything of the robbery. 363 00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:50,222 I heard about it, but I only listened 364 00:24:50,322 --> 00:24:53,525 because that was the bank Philip and I used. 365 00:24:53,625 --> 00:24:57,096 You know, I just kind of wonder why they picked that bank, 366 00:24:57,196 --> 00:25:01,433 but no, nothing really seemed abnormal. 367 00:25:03,002 --> 00:25:06,672 It was approximately a week later, 368 00:25:06,772 --> 00:25:08,273 Philip called me at work. 369 00:25:10,042 --> 00:25:11,877 Hello? 370 00:25:11,977 --> 00:25:15,214 And he said, "I need to talk to you about something." 371 00:25:16,215 --> 00:25:17,883 He said, "Did you know anything 372 00:25:17,983 --> 00:25:23,288 about that bank robbery over there in Joplin?" 373 00:25:24,890 --> 00:25:28,594 I said, "I've seen it. You know, I've seen it 374 00:25:28,694 --> 00:25:31,296 on the news. I don't know anything about it." 375 00:25:32,865 --> 00:25:34,199 He goes, um-- 376 00:25:37,302 --> 00:25:38,704 that was me that did it. 377 00:25:40,839 --> 00:25:41,840 I was like, 378 00:25:43,275 --> 00:25:44,943 "What?" 379 00:25:45,044 --> 00:25:50,015 That was when he said, "I need you to meet me tomorrow 380 00:25:51,417 --> 00:25:56,021 "at the park in Carl Junction. I will be there. 381 00:25:56,121 --> 00:25:58,157 I need to talk to you about something." 382 00:26:00,592 --> 00:26:02,561 Oh, I'm-- 383 00:26:02,661 --> 00:26:04,696 I'm bewildered. I'm shocked. 384 00:26:05,798 --> 00:26:08,033 I didn't know what to say. 385 00:26:22,648 --> 00:26:24,950 I didn't wanna call the cops just yet. 386 00:26:26,785 --> 00:26:29,254 But yes, I was planning on... 387 00:26:29,354 --> 00:26:30,656 something. 388 00:26:30,756 --> 00:26:33,892 To be honest, I was scared to call the police. 389 00:26:35,861 --> 00:26:39,898 I cannot explain how scared I was 390 00:26:42,367 --> 00:26:44,803 because I knew, if I called the police, 391 00:26:44,903 --> 00:26:46,672 I knew I would have 392 00:26:46,772 --> 00:26:49,508 hell to pay if he got out 393 00:26:51,677 --> 00:26:53,245 and came to my house. 394 00:26:55,948 --> 00:26:59,618 I-- I wasn't-- I wasn't willing to risk that. 395 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,889 And he goes, 396 00:27:05,457 --> 00:27:06,458 "They're after me." 397 00:27:08,060 --> 00:27:09,261 He said, 398 00:27:10,329 --> 00:27:12,631 "Someone from the FBI's been following me." 399 00:27:15,467 --> 00:27:17,703 And I said, "Really?" 400 00:27:17,803 --> 00:27:21,773 He goes, "Yeah, they're-- I can't get away from 'em. 401 00:27:21,874 --> 00:27:24,510 Everywhere I go, they're there." 402 00:27:28,013 --> 00:27:31,116 And I knew at that point, I knew, I got him. 403 00:27:31,216 --> 00:27:32,618 I got him. 404 00:27:32,718 --> 00:27:35,254 He lost touch with reality. 405 00:27:37,222 --> 00:27:40,025 It was really bad, his paranoia at that time. 406 00:27:41,793 --> 00:27:44,229 And he goes, "What do you think I should do?" 407 00:27:46,532 --> 00:27:50,302 I said, "Philip, you've got the FBI on you. 408 00:27:51,670 --> 00:27:55,474 We need to go turn you in to the police department." 409 00:27:55,574 --> 00:27:57,876 He sat there for a minute. 410 00:27:57,976 --> 00:28:00,879 I was shocked. He goes, "You're right. 411 00:28:00,979 --> 00:28:02,814 I need to go ahead and turn myself in." 412 00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:19,731 When I walked through the front door of the police station 413 00:28:19,831 --> 00:28:26,405 and I say, "I've got the person that you all are looking for 414 00:28:26,505 --> 00:28:29,408 that robbed the Joplin Metro Credit Union." 415 00:28:30,742 --> 00:28:31,743 She was like, 416 00:28:32,744 --> 00:28:35,447 she didn't-- she thought it was a joke. 417 00:28:35,547 --> 00:28:36,882 I said, "He's right here." 418 00:28:40,452 --> 00:28:43,255 You know, I don't think people routinely 419 00:28:43,355 --> 00:28:46,124 turn themselves in at the front desk. 420 00:28:46,225 --> 00:28:49,361 And she goes, "I'll call a police officer right now." 421 00:28:50,529 --> 00:28:52,965 The police officer came up, 422 00:28:53,065 --> 00:28:56,735 verified who he was, he confirmed that he had 423 00:28:56,835 --> 00:29:00,305 robbed the bank, and they took him away in cuffs. 424 00:29:07,379 --> 00:29:10,515 I did speak to the patrolman for a moment, 425 00:29:10,616 --> 00:29:15,587 and he did tell me, he said, "Sherry, we didn't have 426 00:29:15,687 --> 00:29:16,888 "any prospects. 427 00:29:16,989 --> 00:29:20,926 "We had no idea who had robbed that bank. 428 00:29:21,026 --> 00:29:22,628 And he probably would have gotten away with it." 429 00:29:24,396 --> 00:29:27,165 So he would have gotten away with it if you didn't convince 430 00:29:27,266 --> 00:29:28,600 him to turn himself in. 431 00:29:30,636 --> 00:29:32,904 Does that make this moment a little sweeter for you? 432 00:29:33,005 --> 00:29:35,340 Absolutely. 433 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,478 Absolutely. It was the best day of my life. 434 00:30:22,521 --> 00:30:25,490 When he confessed 435 00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:29,528 to killing Rebecca Sutton, it was real then 436 00:30:29,628 --> 00:30:33,598 that he was a murderer and I had been living with him. 437 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,895 This is Philip's mugshot 438 00:31:06,264 --> 00:31:08,800 from the Missouri Department of Corrections. 439 00:31:12,637 --> 00:31:14,539 The first look at this picture... 440 00:31:18,110 --> 00:31:19,277 It alarmed me. 441 00:31:20,345 --> 00:31:21,446 It frightened me. 442 00:31:23,315 --> 00:31:25,016 [sniffles] 443 00:31:25,117 --> 00:31:26,518 I didn't realize 444 00:31:27,419 --> 00:31:30,789 seeing him in a picture like this would bother me so much. 445 00:31:34,659 --> 00:31:36,995 I look at his eyes, and this is-- 446 00:31:37,095 --> 00:31:39,464 this is frightening to look at. 447 00:31:43,435 --> 00:31:46,972 I know my pulse is racing, and my heart is beating fast. 448 00:31:47,072 --> 00:31:49,541 I didn't know I was still so frightened of him. 449 00:31:51,410 --> 00:31:52,778 The thing that he had 450 00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,318 adamantly denied all those years, he did it. 451 00:32:00,419 --> 00:32:03,722 And then I really wanted to know how he did it. 452 00:32:23,375 --> 00:32:27,913 Immediately, immediately went back 453 00:32:28,013 --> 00:32:29,514 to him choking me. 454 00:32:29,614 --> 00:32:31,483 [actress as Sherry sobbing] 455 00:32:32,484 --> 00:32:33,885 And I thought to myself, 456 00:32:37,055 --> 00:32:39,624 I-- I-- I can't imagine this poor girl 457 00:32:39,724 --> 00:32:44,830 going through this and dying, dying by his hands. 458 00:32:44,930 --> 00:32:47,199 And I had his hands around my throat. 459 00:32:48,967 --> 00:32:52,103 That just sent chills up and down my spine. 460 00:33:01,112 --> 00:33:02,113 Oh. 461 00:33:18,597 --> 00:33:20,298 This is Rebecca Sutton, 462 00:33:21,366 --> 00:33:23,068 this innocent-looking girl. 463 00:33:25,837 --> 00:33:27,239 This is who he murdered. 464 00:33:31,610 --> 00:33:33,178 Look at that. She doesn't-- 465 00:33:33,278 --> 00:33:34,880 she didn't deserve that. 466 00:33:38,216 --> 00:33:40,051 Beautiful-looking girl. 467 00:33:40,151 --> 00:33:45,123 This young girl did not deserve to die by the hands of Philip. 468 00:33:47,125 --> 00:33:48,960 Who do I apologize to? 469 00:33:50,128 --> 00:33:51,796 Do I apologize? 470 00:33:53,665 --> 00:33:55,634 What do I say? Nothing can-- 471 00:33:58,303 --> 00:33:59,738 Nothing can bring her back. 472 00:34:01,439 --> 00:34:03,742 And that family's pain that he caused. 473 00:34:10,015 --> 00:34:12,918 I think that's what bothers me more than anything. 474 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,057 Her murder had occurred just a couple of years 475 00:34:19,157 --> 00:34:22,327 before Philip and I met and got together. 476 00:34:26,698 --> 00:34:27,799 That is frightening, 477 00:34:29,501 --> 00:34:30,869 that he could kill... 478 00:34:32,370 --> 00:34:34,839 a couple of years before meeting me. 479 00:34:36,274 --> 00:34:40,011 You can see she's happy, happy with her life. 480 00:34:43,114 --> 00:34:46,585 And to take that away from her and her family, 481 00:34:46,685 --> 00:34:47,752 she was gone so long, 482 00:34:47,852 --> 00:34:50,322 and they didn't know where she was. 483 00:34:50,422 --> 00:34:51,923 They had no answers. 484 00:35:18,783 --> 00:35:20,552 I've never seen this picture. 485 00:35:21,686 --> 00:35:24,189 [dramatic music plays] 486 00:35:25,824 --> 00:35:26,791 This is... 487 00:35:27,792 --> 00:35:30,695 the forest where Philip hid her body, 488 00:35:31,863 --> 00:35:36,534 He-- I understood he hid it underneath a rock ledge. 489 00:35:40,972 --> 00:35:43,808 I can't believe she was found there. 490 00:35:46,411 --> 00:35:50,615 I can't imagine a more disgraceful 491 00:35:51,616 --> 00:35:55,053 thing to do to someone's remains. 492 00:35:55,153 --> 00:35:58,323 No more respect for life than that. 493 00:35:59,290 --> 00:36:01,326 Under a rock ledge. 494 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,962 Just let them decay there. 495 00:36:06,264 --> 00:36:09,734 While the family's crying out, "Where's our daughter?" 496 00:36:20,245 --> 00:36:22,681 [reporter] The family of Rebecca Sutton lined the first two rows 497 00:36:22,781 --> 00:36:24,649 of the Taney County courtroom Thursday, 498 00:36:24,749 --> 00:36:25,884 ready and waiting 499 00:36:25,984 --> 00:36:28,753 for a killer's confession 10 years in the making. 500 00:36:28,853 --> 00:36:31,489 Dodd admitted he strangled Sutton and dumped her body, 501 00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:33,625 covering it with rocks, pleading guilty 502 00:36:33,725 --> 00:36:35,026 to second degree murder. 503 00:36:35,126 --> 00:36:37,462 [Judge] How you plea to the charge of second degree murder? 504 00:36:45,970 --> 00:36:49,808 I liked that. I liked seeing him, 505 00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:53,411 being judged. 506 00:36:57,515 --> 00:36:59,884 Judged for the crime that he committed 507 00:36:59,984 --> 00:37:03,021 and seeing him admit that he did that 508 00:37:04,089 --> 00:37:06,324 is very satisfying. 509 00:37:06,424 --> 00:37:09,127 I know it was very satisfying for her family. 510 00:37:10,962 --> 00:37:12,797 It is a weird feeling 511 00:37:12,897 --> 00:37:17,502 that he did fly under the radar for so long. 512 00:37:20,438 --> 00:37:23,274 And was able to keep it so low-key. 513 00:37:26,177 --> 00:37:28,747 He covered it very, very well. 514 00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:33,685 A master manipulator. 515 00:37:33,785 --> 00:37:36,054 I look back over those years and I think, 516 00:37:37,989 --> 00:37:40,125 "What truth was there to it?" 517 00:37:40,225 --> 00:37:42,660 Because he lied to me the entire time. 518 00:37:42,761 --> 00:37:44,696 There was no truth to that marriage. 519 00:37:48,133 --> 00:37:49,934 Along with the violence 520 00:37:51,803 --> 00:37:53,371 and the emotional abuse. 521 00:38:17,195 --> 00:38:18,296 This is Philip 522 00:38:19,497 --> 00:38:20,532 again, 523 00:38:22,433 --> 00:38:23,968 in the Missouri prison. 524 00:38:30,608 --> 00:38:32,343 For some reason, he looks... 525 00:38:36,347 --> 00:38:37,348 He looks... 526 00:38:38,516 --> 00:38:39,517 different. 527 00:38:40,885 --> 00:38:42,020 He looks frail. 528 00:38:45,924 --> 00:38:48,359 He looks very frail. 529 00:38:49,761 --> 00:38:51,329 Oh, he is... 530 00:38:52,730 --> 00:38:54,799 definitely where he belongs. 531 00:38:56,901 --> 00:38:57,869 Definitely. 532 00:38:59,737 --> 00:39:01,739 He just looks so weak to me, 533 00:39:02,740 --> 00:39:04,609 when I think I'm not that strong, 534 00:39:06,344 --> 00:39:07,478 I need to remember this. 535 00:39:09,981 --> 00:39:11,115 I did this. 536 00:39:14,452 --> 00:39:19,490 I was able to get him put away 537 00:39:21,726 --> 00:39:24,162 to keep him from hurting anybody else. 538 00:39:26,564 --> 00:39:27,565 I did that. 539 00:39:29,434 --> 00:39:31,202 I had the power that day. 540 00:39:34,305 --> 00:39:36,040 And I feel, 541 00:39:36,140 --> 00:39:40,078 seeing him like that, it gives me more power again. 542 00:39:43,848 --> 00:39:45,483 I'm glad to see this. 543 00:39:45,583 --> 00:39:48,753 He does not deserve to ever get out. 544 00:39:48,853 --> 00:39:51,256 I truly believe he would kill again. 545 00:39:55,593 --> 00:39:56,561 He's a killer. 546 00:39:58,162 --> 00:40:00,965 That won't change. You can die there. 547 00:40:01,065 --> 00:40:02,800 I never want to see you again. 548 00:40:14,145 --> 00:40:16,481 Strangely, with my family saying 549 00:40:16,581 --> 00:40:18,716 something was off with him, 550 00:40:18,816 --> 00:40:21,419 now I can say I wish I did listen to them. 551 00:40:22,420 --> 00:40:24,188 I was just trying to be strong then, 552 00:40:24,289 --> 00:40:26,391 trying to be independent, 553 00:40:26,491 --> 00:40:28,526 trying to handle my own problems. 554 00:40:29,994 --> 00:40:33,731 The advice I would give my young self is, 555 00:40:33,831 --> 00:40:36,668 trust your heart, trust your feelings, 556 00:40:38,303 --> 00:40:39,971 listen to other people around you. 557 00:40:40,071 --> 00:40:41,773 Don't think it's just 558 00:40:41,873 --> 00:40:44,242 what you think is right, 559 00:40:44,342 --> 00:40:47,779 'cause sometimes you might be missing some of the picture. 560 00:40:50,381 --> 00:40:53,885 My life post-Philip has been very good, 561 00:40:53,985 --> 00:40:55,086 very good to me. 562 00:40:57,021 --> 00:40:59,624 The twins, they're doing very well. 563 00:41:00,825 --> 00:41:04,462 Very well. Just finished high school. 564 00:41:04,562 --> 00:41:06,130 He's missed out on a lot. 565 00:41:08,366 --> 00:41:09,667 I feel like a survivor. 566 00:41:10,668 --> 00:41:13,104 I'm not that weak person anymore. 567 00:41:13,204 --> 00:41:14,405 She's long gone. 568 00:41:19,110 --> 00:41:22,013 He thought she was your everyday nice old lady. 569 00:41:23,281 --> 00:41:25,116 She did hide all of it, as much as she could. 570 00:41:25,216 --> 00:41:28,019 John had no idea what he was getting into. 571 00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:30,755 I knew she had this history of attempted murder, 572 00:41:30,855 --> 00:41:32,790 and John was a good guy.