>>> IN A NATION SHAPED BY HISTORY, TRADITION, AND
DEMOCRACY, TECHNOLOGY HAS PROVEN TO BE BOTH PARTNER AND
PROVOCATEUR.
>> I HAVE NO COMMENT.
>> SHAPING THE VERY ESSENCE OF AMERICAN ELECTIONS THROUGHOUT
HISTORY. A NEW FORCE IS RISING.
A FORCE THAT WILL CHALLENGE THE VERY ESSENCE OF THE AMERICAN
DREAM, A FORCE THAT KNOWS NO BINDS, NO FATIGUE, AND NO HUMAN
ERROR, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
>> AND NOW OUR GREAT NATIONAL ANTHEM, "BABY SHARK, DOO DOO
DOO, BABY SHARK DOO DOO ♪
>> AND YESTERDAY WAS TODAY YESTERDAY.
♪ MOMMY SHARK ♪
>> AI'S ROLE IN POLITICS IS A REALITY.
IT CAN BE USED TO INFLUENCE PUBLIC OPINION, SPREAD
MISINFORMATION, OR DISCREDIT POLITICAL FIGURES.
>> I NEVER SHOULD HAVE CHALLENGED PRESIDENT TRUMP, THE
GREATEST PRESIDENT OF MY LIFETIME.
>> AS WE APPROACH THE 2024 ELECTIONS, THE POTENTIAL THREATS
POSED BY AI IN POLITICS REMAIN A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN.
>> THIS AD PUT OUT BY FLORIDA GOVERNOR RON DeSANTIS EARLIER
THIS MONTH SHOWS FAKE IMAGES OF DONALD TRUMP HUGGING AND KISSING
DR. ANTHONY FAUCI.
>> SO HOW WILL VOTERS KNOW WHAT'S REAL OR FAKE?
>> AS ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE REVOLUTIONIZES THE VERY ESSENCE
OF POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS, HOW WILL IT SHAPE THE VOTERS' MIND?
IS IT A TOOL FOR EMPOWERMENT OR MANIPULATION?
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU'D LIKE TO ASK?
♪
>>> PUMPKIN SPICE, DIPPED IN CHOCOLATE.
YOU WANT AN ICE CREAM CONE?
>> YEAH.
>> A.
>> CAT LIKES CREAM. [ LAUGHTER ]
>> HI!
>> PALMIERI, HOW ARE YOU?
>> JENN, WE'RE AT THE NEW BRANCH OF MORGENSTERN'S.
>> OH MY GOD, I LOVE DIP CONES.
>> SHE LOVES THE DIPPED CONE. INSTEAD WE HAVE KLEPPER.
>> HAPPY TO SUB AT THE TABLE OF ICE CREAM IN YOUR PLACE, JENN.
>> WELCOME. I'M SORRY TO NOT BE THERE, AND
I'M HERE BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT IS DOING AN EVENT ON AI.
THEY'RE CALLING IT THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ACTION THAT ANY
GOVERNMENT IN THE WORLD HAS TAKEN TO DATE IN TRYING TO
MANAGE AND MAKE SAFE AI.
>> RIGHT. SO THERE IS A FUCK TON OF SHIT
GOING ON IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW. THE GROUND INCURSION OF GAZA BY
ISRAEL AND THE SHELLING FROM THE AIR IS INCREASING.
LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A STATE OF WAR IMMINENTLY.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE DON'T KNOW THESE THINGS AREN'T HAPPENING OR
DON'T THINK THEY'RE IMPORTANT, BUT IN A CIRCUS RARITY, WE
DECIDED THIS WEEK WE'RE GOING TAKE OUR EYES OFF OF NEWS.
>> DO A DEEP DIVE ON A BIG IMPORTANT TOPIC THAT DESERVES A
WEEK OF INVESTIGATING.
>> YEAH. FOR MOST PEOPLE, THE IDEA OF
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, UNTIL THIS SPRING WAS REALLY A SCIENCE
FICTION. BUT THEN CHATGPT 4 DROPPED AND
SUDDENLY THERE WAS LIKE ONE OF THOSE FULL-SCALE MEDIA PANICS.
>> FICTION IS ACTUALLY TURNING INTO FACT.
>> AS REVOLUTIONARY AS THE INTERNET.
>> DESIGNED HELP HUMANITY.
>> BUT IT ALSO COULD BE MANIPULATED.
>> MISINFORMATION SPREAD ON THE INTERNET.
>> DO YOU THINK IT'S A FORCE FOR GOOD OR A FERS FOR
GOOD OR A FERS ORCE FOR BAD?
>> NO ONE REALLY DISPUTES THE IDEA THAT ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE, WON'T TOUCH EVERY ASPECT OF LIFE.
BUT FOR OUR PURPOSES, THIS IS A POLITICAL PROGRAM, THIS IS A
POLITICAL PROGRAM.
>> WHAT?
>> I CAN'T GET OUT OF THAT.
>> SORRY ABOUT THAT. FOR OUR PURPOSES, WE WANT TO
FOCUS ON A MUCH MORE DISCREET THING, WHICH IS WE HAVE AN
ELECTION 12 MONTHS FROM NOW.
>> WHAT'S THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE ON AN
ELECTION?
>> THE ADMINISTRATION IS SOUNDING VERY WORRIED ABOUT
THIS, WHAT YOU ACTUALLY DO ABOUT IT.
>> HOW YOU GET AHEAD OF THE 2024 ELECTION, REALLY, REALLY BIG
QUESTION.
>> WHEN EVER THERE IS A NEW TECHNOLOGY, ESPECIALLY A
TECHNOLOGY THAT AFFECTS THE INFORMATION AND NEWS AND HOW WE
PROCESS THE REALITY AROUND US, NEW TECHNOLOGIES TEND TO LAND IN
POLITICS AND LEAVE A BIG MARK. 1960.
>> QUESTION REALLY IS WHICH CANDIDATE AND WHICH PARTY MEET
THE PROBLEMS THE UNITED STATES IS GOING TO FACE IN THE '60s.
>> A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT CHANGED THE OUTCOME OF THAT
ELECTION. THE CANDIDATE WON BECAUSE OF THE
DEBATE.
>> THINK ABOUT WHAT HATCHED IN '92, '96.
>> 24-HOUR CABLE NEWS AND WHAT THIS DID TO THE NEWS CYCLE.
HUGE EFFECT ON THOSE ELECTIONS. 2008, THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN
UNDERSTANDS FACEBOOK BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE, HELPS HIM TO WIN.
>> 1220, THE OBAMA TEAM, WE USED TWITTER TO OUR ADVANTAGE.
AND THEN IN '16, IT'S WHEN BOTH THESE PLATFORMS GOT WEAPONIZED
BY PEOPLE THAT WERE TRYING TO SPREAD DISINFORMATION.
>> YEAH, I THINK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH SOCIAL MEDIA,
MISINFORMATION, QANON, RUSSIA, EVERYTHING BECOMES A PART OF
THIS POLITICAL LANDSCAPE IN A WAY THAT YOU CAN'T SEPARATE FROM
THE CANDIDATES AND THE CONVERSATION.
>> ON THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN WE UNDERSTOOD, OH, WAIT, A LOT OF
THESE PEOPLE ARE BOTS ON TWITTER.
THESE AREN'T REAL PEOPLE. BUT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE
SCOPE OF THE DISINFORMATION, WHERE IT'S COMING FROM UNTIL
IT'S TOO LATE. WHAT WE'RE FACING NOW WITH AI IS
EXPONENTIALLY BIGGER.
>> WHAT SCARCE ME IS YOU HEAR CEOs, PEOPLE WHO HELPED CREATE
AI ARE TELLING YOU DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU SEE.
AND THAT WAS THE UNOFFICIAL SLOGAN OF THE LAST CAMPAIGN PER
THE MAGA YOURSELF.
>> SERIOUSLY.
>> I TALKED TO SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO ALREADY CAST DOUBT ON
ANY INFORMATION THEY SEE.
>> BARACK OBAMA HAD BIG PART OF 9/11.
>> TWOYTS MILITARY.
>> THERE IS TWO MILITARIES? .
THERE IS A GOOD AND BAD.
>> THIS TERRIBLE WAR IN UKRAINE, I THINK THE WHOLE THING IS
FABRICATED.
>> I THINK LOOKING AT SOMETHING AND SAYING OH, NO, THAT IS
PROBABLY A FAKE IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE A CRAZY EXCUSE
PEOPLE HAVE.
>> EVERYONE IS LOOKING AT THE AI PHENOMENON AND SAYING THERE IS
THIS BIG THING COMING. WE DON'T KNOW HOW BIG.
WE'RE ABOUT TO GO OUT ON A FACT-FINDING EXPEDITION.
>> WHAT WE HAVE THIS WEEK ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
>> ONE THOECHL
>> ONE THOEOF THEM IS HOW POWER IS AI?
AND ANOTHER IS HOW SCARY.
>> WHAT CAN YOU TO BE IT TO STOP IT?
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I KNOW FROM WORKING IN THE BUSINESS, THERE
ARE SOME DARK PEOPLE IN POLITICS THAT WILL DO REALLY DARK STUFF.
GIVE THIEVE THEM THESE TOOLS, IT'S PRETTY FUCKING SCARY.
>> IF YOU HAD TO GUESS RIGHT NOW, WHAT DO YOU THINK HISTORY
WILL LOOK BACK AND CALL THE 2024 ELECTION?
>> IT WILL BE THE AI ELECTION.
♪
>>> AI FRAUDSTERS CAN TAKE A THREE-SECOND RECORDING OF YOUR
VOICE, I'VE WATCHED ONE OF ME A COUPLE OF TIMES.
I SAID WHEN IN THE HELL DID I SAY THAT?
>> PRESIDENT BIDEN JUST ISSUED A SWEEPING EXECUTIVE ORDER TO
REGULATE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
>> BIDEN ADMINISTRATION GETTING SOME COMMITMENTS FROM TECH
COMPANIES.
>> THE PRESIDENT IS ALSO ASKING CONGRESS TO PASS NEW PRIVACY
LAWS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WHERE WERE THESE REGULATORS WHEN IT WAS JUST THE INTERNET,
WHEN IT WAS SOCIAL MEDIA? THEY DIDN'T PASS A PRIVACY BILL.
THEY DIDN'T PASS ANTITRUST BILLS.
THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT REALLY, CONGRESS
IS THE ONE THAT HAS TO ACT IN THIS CASE.
AND CONGRESS HAS COMPLETELY LOST THE NARRATIVE ON THESE THINGS.
>> WITH AI, WHERE DO YOU PUT THAT ON THE SCALE OF THE IMPACT
IT CAN SUPER?
>> WELL --
>> IT SEEMS TO ME IT COULD BE EXPONENTIAL.
>> I'M NOT SCARED OF AI. COMPUTERS CAN'T THINK.
COMPUTERS CAN COMMUTE COMPUTERS CAN COMMUPUTE.
USUALLY THE MOST MALEVOLENT PEOPLE WILL FIND A WAY TO TAKE A
TOOL AND MAKE IT A WEAPON. AND WHY WOULDN'T THEY IF WE
DON'T STOP THEM?
♪
>> THIS SUMMER, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AI.
YOU WERE LIKE I'M A TRISTAN HARRIS FAN.
AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO SEE HIM.
>> I'M A HAIR-HEAD, CO-FOUNDER FOR THE CENTER FOR HUMANE
TECHNOLOGY. HE AND HIS PARTNER, IN THE
DOCUMENTARY THE SOCIAL DILEMMA LOOKED AT THE CHAOS THAT
SURROUNDS THE AI FRENZY WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW.
>> THAT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
THIS PAST SPRING WHEN CHATGPT 4 CAME OUT, THEY DID A
PRESENTATION, LIKE AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH FOR AI CALLED
THE AI DILEMMA.
>> 50% OF AI RESEARCHERS BELIEVE THERE IS A 10% OR GREATER CHANCE
THAT HUMANS GO EXTINCT FROM OUR INABILITY TO CONTROL AI.
>> THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF WORRY THAT WE HAD EARLIER TODAY
ABOUT WHETHER JORDAN WAS GOING TO MAKE TO IT THE INTERVIEW
BECAUSE I HAD THIS VOICE MAIL FROM JORDAN THAT HE LEFT HERE.
>> HEY, JOHN, LOOK, MAN, I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO MAKE THE
INTERVIEW WITH THIS AI TONIGHT. I TOOK A WALK IN THE TENDERLOIN,
AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, I'M GETTING A LAP DANCE AND HUFFING
ILLICIT PANDA GLUE WITH A GUY WITH A JOE ROGAN HALLOWEEN MASK.
DEFINITELY MORE FUN THAN HOSTING THIS SHOW OF YOURSELF.
DON'T CALL ME BACK, I'M BLOCKING THIS NUMBER, AND MAKE AMERICA
GREAT AGAIN. HOW IS THAT FOR A FUCKING DEEP
THINK?
>> THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. THAT SOUNDS PRETTY CLOSE TO ME
AND THAT'S 75% MY ACTUAL FEELINGS.
>> COY DO THAT FOR FREE. YOU GIVE A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN
A BILLION DOLLARS AND ENOUGH POWER TO PUT A MAN ON MARS, HOW
SERIOUS IS THE THREAT THAT THAT KIND OF IS AN EARLY CLUE TO?
>> IT'S HARD TO FATHOM, RIGHT? AN UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT OF
DISINFORMATION AT SCALE, GENERATED PERFECTLY PER PERSON.
YOU CAN CREATE AN ENTIRE UNIVERSE OF INTERLINKED CONTENT
THAT'S FAKE, TWEETS, ARTICLES, ARTICLES WRITTEN IN DIFFERENT
STYLES, "NEW YORK TIMES," "HUFFINGTON POST."
>> WHAT MADE YOU DECIDE TO DO A PRESENTATION ABOUT THIS?
>> WE ACTUALLY GOT CALLS FROM PEOPLE INSIDE THE MAJOR
COMPANIES. THEY WANTED HELP FROM PEOPLE
LIKE US WHO HAVE A PUBLIC PLATFORM CAN WE RAISE AWARENESS
THAT AI IS ABOUT TO GET TEN TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN WHAT IT
WAS. IT WAS LIKE GETTING A CALL FROM
ROBERT OPPENHEIMER WHO IS BUILD THE MANHATTAN PROJECT, AND YOU
DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MANHATTAN PROJECT IS, BUT HE SAYS IT'S
ABOUT TO CHANGE EVERYTHING. SO WE HELD THIS PRESENTATION.
AND WE JUST OUTLINED THE RISKS ARE IF WE KEEP RACING TO SCALE.
THERE IS ALL OF THESE NEW CAPABILITIES THAT THE AIs ARE
GOING TO CONTINUE TO GAIN, AND THEY'RE BEYOND HUMAN CAPABILITY,
AND WE ARE JUST RELEASING THEM INTO THE WORLD WITHOUT ASKING IS
THIS SAFE.
>> THERE WAS A PUBLIC LETTER THAT GOT WRITTEN BY A BUNCH OF
TECH CEOs.
>> MORE THAN A THOUSAND TECH LEADERS AND RESEARCHERS SIGNING
A LETTER CALLING FOR A PAUSE ON AI DEVELOPMENT, SAYING IT
COMPOSED, QUOTE, PROFOUND RISKS TO SOCIETY AND HUMANITY.
>> PEOPLE SUDDENLY TOOK THE MESSAGE MUCH MORE SERIOUSLY.
WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT AI NOW THAN WHEN PEOPLE SEE THESE
IMAGES MANIPULATED THROUGH CGI OR PHOTO SHOP?
>> IT USED TO BE THAT A HOLLYWOOD STUDIO COULD GO
ADVANCED COMPUTER GRAPHICS AND MAKE IT FOR A MOVIE, BUT THAT
COST MONEY. AND ONLY A FEW PEOPLE HAD
ACCESS. IT WAS NEVER BEFORE UBIQUITOUS
THAT WITH JUST THREE SECONDS OF ANYONE'S VOICE I CAN SIMULATE
BEING SOMEONE ELSE, AND ANYBODY CAN DO THAT.
>> WHEN YOU PLAYED THE AUDIO OF JORDAN KLEPPER, YOU CAN TELL.
THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD IMITATION, BUT NOT JORDAN.
HOW MUCH LONGER ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TELL?
>> THAT'S THE THING. WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO EVALUATE
ISN'T WHETHER THE TECHNOLOGY IS SO DANGEROUS AT THIS PARTICULAR
MOMENT. I MEAN, MANY CASES IT IS ENOUGH.
BUT IT'S ON ITS EXPONENTIAL CURVE.
>> SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IN THE PRESENTATION THERE IS A
MOMENT WHERE YOU GUYS PLAY A TICK-TOCK FILTER.
>> YEAH.
>> THAT EXISTS IN THE WORLD TODAY.
IT IS A BLOND WOMAN.
>> I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS IS A FILTER.
THE FACT THAT IS WHAT FILTERS HAVE EVOLVED INTO IS CRAZY TO
ME. THIS IS WHAT I LOOK LIKE IN REAL
LIFE.
>> YOU GUYS SAID HEY, IF YOU'RE A MALIGNED GOVERNMENT, WHAT YOU
DO NEXT YEAR TO REALLY MESS WITH THE AMERICAN ELECTION?
>> IF I'M THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY AND I WANT TO SCREW UP THE
U.S. RIGHT NOW, WHAT I DO IS I JUST SHIP A BIDEN AND TRUMP
FILTER TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN YOUR COUNTRY THAT GIVES YOU A
BIDEN VOICE OR A TRUMP VOICE. NOW I TURNED ALL OF YOUR
CITIZENS LIKE "BEING JOHN MALKOVICH" INTO BEING THE MOST
ANGRY BIDEN-TRUMP INFORMATION ARMY.
>> THE WAY YOU GUYS EXPLAIN IT, IT DOESN'T SOUND SPECULATIVE.
>> IT'S DOABLE RIGHT NOW.
>> SUDDENLY EVERY AMERICAN GUESSING TO PLAY.
YOU INSTANTLY TURN INTO TRUMP OR BIDEN.
I THINK PEOPLE SAY WELL I WOULDN'T BELIEVE THAT.
BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT THAT. IT'S ABOUT JUST SOWING CHAOS,
DISTRACTION, MAKING PEOPLE JUST CAUGHT IN THE NONSENSE.
WHAT IS THE LIKELIHOOD THAT AI IS A DECISIVE FACTOR IN THE 2024
ELECTION?
>> AI I THINK WILL BE -- IT COULD BE THE DECISIVE FACTOR.
SOCIAL MEDIA IN THE AI SOCIAL MEDIA IS KIND OF WINNING OVER
AMERICAN DEMOCRACY, BECAUSE ITS GOALS OF OPTIMIZING FOR
CACOPHONY AND OUTRAGE ECONOMY AND PERSONALIZED CONTENT HAVE
ACTUALLY TAKEN OVER IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT'S DRIVING THE SHOW --
AI. WE DON'T DO PSAs ANYMORE, AND
PEOPLE DON'T WATCH TELEVISION WHERE THERE IS AN EMERGENCY
BROADCASTING SYSTEM, BUT THERE IS KIND OF AN EMERGENCY
HAPPENING. LIKE THE INFORMATION ENVIRONMENT
IS BROKEN, AND PEOPLE NEED TO COLLECTIVELY KNOW THAT.
>> A NEW EXECUTIVE ORDER FROM PRESIDENT BIDEN IS TRYING TO
HARNESS THE THREAT OF AI.
>> THE VICE PRESIDENT IS TAKING THE MESSAGE ABROAD TO LONDON.
FORM A GLOBAL AI SUMMIT.
>> WHEN PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD CANNOT DISCERN FACT FROM
FICTION, BECAUSE OF A FLOOD OF AI-ENABLED MYTHS AND
DISINFORMATION, I ASK IS THAT NOT EXISTENTIAL FOR DEMOCRACY?
LET US WORK TOGETHER TO FULFILL OUR DUTY TO MAKE SURE ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE IS IN THE SERVICE OF THE PUBLIC INTEREST.
I THANK YOU ALL.
>> THE PRIME MINISTER RISHI SUNAK HAS BEEN TRYING TO DRAW
ATTENTION TO SOME OF THE BIGGER LONG-RANGE THREATS, AND THE
BIDEN/HARRIS ADMINISTRATION'S POINT IS THERE ARE WAYS THAT AI
IS POSING A THREAT TO AMERICANS EVERY DAY, CERTAINLY IN
POLITICS. I THINK WHAT THEY HOPE IS THAT
THIS WEEK IS THE MOMENT WHERE THE U.S. HELPS TO LAY A
FOUNDATION FOR WHAT AN INTERNATIONAL FRAMEWORK TO
REGULATE AI MAY LOOK LIKE.
♪
>> AI IS ALL ANYONE IS TALKING ABOUT.
I LAUGH BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I WAS ALSO TALKING ABOUT IT QUITE
A BIT IN 2019 WHEN DEEPFAKES WERE ALSO THE SORT OF THE THING
OF THE MOMENT. NOW AI HAS IN THE PAST YEAR
GOTTEN MUCH MORE SOPHISTICATED.
>> YOU'VE WORKED IN CAMPAIGNS. I'VE WORKED IN CAMPAIGNS.
AND IF YOU GIVE THEM TOOLS LIKE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND
THEIR BOTTOM LINE IS JUST WINNING, THEY'RE GOING TO DO
JUST ABOUT ANYTHING.
>> YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE ARE PLENTY OF ETHICAL USES OF AI IN
A CAMPAIGN SETTING.
>> LIKE FOR EXAMPLE WHAT?
>> FOR EXAMPLE, IF I HAVE A PLAN I'M ROLLING OUT, MAYBE IT'S MY
ECONOMIC PLAN, I MIGHT WANT TO CREATE 100 INFO GRAPHICS THAT I
CAN USE.
>> YEAH.
>> AND IN THE PAST I MIGHT HAVE TO USE A GRAPHIC DESIGNER OR GO
INTO PHOTO SHOP. BUT NOW I CAN DO THAT PRETTY
EFFECTIVELY. I'VE SAVED A LOT OF TIME AND
IDEALLY A LOT OF MONEY. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT FOR THE
PAST SIX YEARS, I COULD HAVE CREATED A GRAPHIC THAT HAD FALSE
INFORMATION ON IT WITH A REALLY, REALLY ELEMENTARY SET OF TOOLS.
NOW WE CAN JUST DO MORE AT SCALE.
>> YEAH.
>> SO IT'S REALLY NOT A REVOLUTION.
IT'S AN EVOLUTION OF WHAT WE WERE ALREADY DEALING WITH.
>> LET'S LOOK AT SOME POLITICAL CONTENT AND SEE SOME EXAMPLES OF
WHERE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS USED.
MAYOR ERIC ADAMS CREATED AUDIO OF HIM SPEAKING IN A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE WHICH HE CAN'T ACTUALLY DO.
>> HOLA, SOY --
>> THE ETHICAL LINE, THERE ARE GOING TO BE CONSTITUENTS WHO
HEAR THAT AND THINK OH, HE SPEAKS THE LANGUAGE.
>> RIGHT. IT'S A MISSED OPPORTUNITY
BECAUSE ACTUALLY, HE COULD HAVE SAID HEY, EVERYONE, I'M LEARNING
ABOUT THIS TECHNOLOGY JUST LIKE YOU ARE.
ONE COOL THING, IT SEEMS TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR ME TO COMMUNICATE
WITH YOU. HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF ME
SPEAKING YOUR LANGUAGE. I HOPE YOU FIND IT HELPFUL.
>> HERE IS A CLASSIC AD FOR RON DeSANTIS WITH SOME PHOTOS THAT
WERE COMPLETELY ARTIFICIALLY GENERATED OF TRUMP HUGGING
FAUCI.
>> IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY, THERE ARE SOME INDICATIONS THAT THOSE
PHOTOS ARE AI-GENERATED. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE TEXT
DOESN'T SAY WHITE HOUSE WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO SAY WHITE
HOUSE. TRUMP'S EAR LOOKS A LITTLE
WEIRD. SO REALLY, REALLY SUBTLE.
>> I CAN SEE WHERE SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD BE PROBLEMATIC.
YOU REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED TO CHRIS CHRISTIE HUGGING BARACK
OBAMA AND THE DAMAGE THAT DID.
>> RIGHT.
>> YOU SEE SOMEBODY A TRUMP SUPPORTER, HE HUGGED FAUCI?
>> PEOPLE DON'T REALLY SIT AND WATCH A FULL AD START TO FINISH.
WE'RE LOOK AT OUR PHONE, SCROLLING, WATCHING OUR KID'S
SOCCER GAME, WAITING FOR THE SUBWAY.
WE MIGHT SEE A FLASH, ASSUME IT'S REAL AND IT MIGHT CONFIRM
OUR BIAS.
>> SO ULTIMATELY, WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THIS?
>> WELL, A LOT OF TIMES WE HEAR ABOUT AI AS SOMETHING THAT'S
JUST HAPPENING TO US. BUT IT'S REALLY NOT HAPPENING TO
US. WE HAVE AGENCY IN THIS BUSINESS.
IF WE SIT BACK AND TAKE THIS AS ANOTHER THING THAT WE DON'T
UNDERSTAND AND THAT WE SHOULD JUST SUCCUMB TO, IT'S GOING TO
BE A DISEMPOWERED ELECTORATE. AND THAT'S MUCH SCARIER TO ME.
YOU KNOW, THE SORT OF ANTITHESIS OF DEMOCRACY.
>> SO IT'S ON US?
>> IT'S ON US.
♪
>> THIS IS LESLIE PARK.
>> WHERE THE CODE BREAK IRS BROKE THE NAZI ENIGMA CODE.
>> IT'S 50 MILES OUTSIDE OF LONDON AND A FITTING SPOT FOR
DAY TWO OF THE AI SAFETY SUMMIT.
>> IN YOUR SPEECH YESTERDAY, YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW AI-GENERATED
DISINFORMATION IS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO DEMOCRACY.
HOW CONCERNED DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD BE IN AMERICA, IN THE UK,
BOTH COUNTRIES FACING NATIONAL ELECTIONS NEXT YEAR?
>> THE FACT OF MISINFORMATION IS NOT NEW, BUT WHAT INCREASINGLY
HAS HAPPENED WITH THE EVOLUTION OF TECHNOLOGY IS MISSING DIS
INFORMATION CAN SPREAD QUICKLY, AND WITH AI IN PARTICULAR, CAN
TAKE ON A FORM THAT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE RECEIVER
OF THAT INFORMATION TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN FACT OR
FICTION. TECHNOLOGY CAN BE A TOOL IN THE
HANDS OF BAD ACTORS WHO INTEND TO UPEND DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS
AND THE PEOPLE'S CONFIDENCE IN DEMOCRACIES.
>> DO YOU THINK THERE IS ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE IN THE
SHORT-TERM TO TRY TO AMELIORATE THAT BETWEEN NOW AND THE
ELECTION?
>> WE'RE GOING DO EVERYTHING WE CAN.
WHAT I CAN TELL YOU, COMING OUT OF THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE BEEN
HAVING WITH HEADS OF STATE, THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS
THAT MOST LEADERS HAVE.
>> MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, ISRAEL BOMBS DENSELY POPULATED --
♪
>> WHAT'S YOUR BEER CHOICE?
>> WHEN YOU KNOW HUMAN ANNIHILATION --
>> LISTEN, HEIM NOT GOING TO GO THAT FAR.
I LIKE TO USE THE PHRASE "PANIC RESPONSIBLY
RESPONS RESPONSIBLY."
THAT'S SORT OF MY MANTRA.
>> FACEBOOK APPROACHED ME AFTER THE 2010 CYCLE.
AT THE TIME WE WANTED 2016 TO BE KNOWN AS THE FACEBOOK ELECTION.
WE THOUGHT THAT HAVING CANDIDATES AND ELECTED OFFICIALS
USE PLATFORMS LIKE FACEBOOK WAS GOING TO BE A GREAT
DEMOCRATIZER. AND THEN YOU HAD TRUMP WINNING
IN 2016. AND WHAT FELT LIKE OVERNIGHT IT
WENT FROM THIS BEING AN AMAZING PLACE FOR DEMOCRACY NOW BEING
LIKE --
>> A DANGEROUS PLACE.
>> YEAH. AND IT WASN'T UNTIL MID 2017
ACTUALLY THEY HAD TOLD ME THAT THEY FOUND THE RUSSIAN INTERNET
RESEARCH AGENCY ADS.
>> A RUSSIAN TROLL FARM.
>> A RUSSIAN TROLL FARM THAT WAS PRETENDING TO BE AMERICANS.
THEY WERE GOING INTO GROUPS, TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO GO TO
RALLIES AND PROTEST.
>> AT SOME POINT YOU DECIDED TO LEAVE FACEBOOK?
>> AFTER THE 2020 ELECTION, I THOUGHT IT WAS TIME TO TRY
SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AND A LOT OF IT TOO WAS JANUARY
6th. I'M SITTING THERE WATCHING IT
ALL UNFOLD, AND ALL I CAN THINK ABOUT IS HOW THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY AND FACEBOOK LOOKED VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHEN I FIRST
STARTED WORKING FOR THEM.
>> TALK TO ME ABOUT HOW IT WAS DIFFERENT.
>> WE SAW A LOT OF BURNOUT FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THE
TRUST AND SAFETY SPACE. THE EXECS IN THE U.S.,
REGULATION HASN'T COME. AND AFTER 2022, THE COMPANY
DISBANDED THE CIVIC INTEGRITY TEAM.
NOW LET'S PUT ELON MUSK AND X IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ERA, BECAUSE
I FIGURE THAT'S WHERE WE MIGHT BE GOING.
>> THAT'S MY NEXT QUESTION.
>> I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE WAY THAT HE TREATED HIS EMPLOYEES,
PARTICULARLY TRUST AND SAFETY EMPLOYEES, THE ONES THAT ARE
MAKING THE DECISIONS OF WHAT STAYS UP OR WHAT COMES DOWN, HE
FIRED PRETTY MUCH THAT ENTIRE TEAM.
AND ROLLED BACK A LOT OF DIFFERENT POLICIES THAT TWITTER
HAD AROUND HATE SPEECH. WE CAN ALREADY SEE FOR TWITTER,
X, THE IMPACT THAT THAT'S HAD WITH THE ISRAELI CONFLICT AND
HOW WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF THE WORST OF THE WORST CONTENT BE ON
X.
>> SO HE IS ROLLING BACK ANY KIND OF GUARDRAILS HERE.
WHAT EFFECT IS THAT HAVING IN PLACES LIKE FACEBOOK?
>> I THINK THAT FACEBOOK WAS ALREADY LOOKING AT MAKING
CHANGES TO HOW THEY WERE HANDLING THIS INFORMATION.
BUT I THINK ELON GAVE THEM COVER.
HE WAS NOW THE WORST PERSON.
>> AMERICA, LAND OF LOWERING THE BAR.
>> RIGHT?
>> ARE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS PREPARED FOR WHAT'S COMING, THE
DELUGE OF AI CONTENT?
>> YOU NOT ONLY HAVE ALL THESE QUESTIONS WHAT THE LEGACY
PLATFORMS ARE DOING, YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF NEWER PLATFORMS ON THE
SCENE LIKE TIKTOK, DISCORD, TWITCH.
MOST GEN Z IS GOING TO TIKTOK TO GET THEIR NEWS, BUT NOT FROM
TRADITIONAL MEDIA SECOND QUARTER, FROM NEWS INFLUENCERS.
>> HAPPY SATURDAY.
>> WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE NORMALLY DO.
WE'RE GOING READ THE NEWSPAPER. WE'RE GOING TALK ABOUT MIGRANTS
TODAY.
>> YOU ADD AI ON TO ALL OF THIS, IT'S ACCELERANT.
>> YOU CAN CREATE RULES BASED AROUND CAMPAIGNS OR BOG TONIGHT
LOOKOUT FOR WHAT'S COMING IN FROM CHINA.
BUT I'M WORRIED ABOUT THOSE KIDS IN THE BASEMENT WHO JUST WANT
THE MESS SOMETHING UP.
>> I'M WORRIED ABOUT BOTH. IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO TELL
WHAT'S A TEENAGER AND WHAT'S A FOREIGN AGENT.
IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT A LOT EASIER TO CREATE ANY SORT OF
FAKE INFORMATION YOU WANT ABOUT THE CANDIDATES.
AND WE'RE ALREADY SEEING THAT HAPPEN.
ONE OF MY BIGGEST WORRIES IS LIKE THINKING BACK TO 2016,
WHERE WERE WE NOT LOOKING? AND THAT'S WHAT I WORRY A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT 2024. I KEEP THINKING ABOUT, WHAT ROCK
AM I NOT LOOKING UNDER?
>>> WE'RE HEADED TO TALK TO ONE OF THE WORLD'S FOREMOST EXPERTS
ON AI. HIS NAME IS MUSTAFA SULIMAN.
HE CREATED AN AI LAB CALLED DEEPMIND, AN EARLY FORERUNNER OF
AI TECHNOLOGY, PURCHASED BY GOOGLE FOR ABOUT A HALF A
BILLION DOLLARS. HE IS NOW THE CO-FOUNDER AND CEO
OF A COMPANY CALLED INFLECTION AI.
HE HAS A BOOK THAT WAS JUST RELEASED CALLED "THE COMING
WAVE" THAT IS A VERY CANDID LOOK AT THE PROMISE BUT ALSO THE
RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH AI.
>> THESE AIs CAN MAKE MISTAKES. BECAUSE THERE ARE NOW CHATBOTS
IN THE WORLD, PEOPLE CAN SEE WHEN THEY HALLUCINATE, THEY MAKE
THINGS UP, AND THAT'S GREAT. BECAUSE EVERYBODY CAN SEE THEIR
EDGES, THEIR WEAKNESSES. IT'S IN PLAIN SIGHT.
LET'S START PLAYING WITH THESE MODELS, TESTING THEM, BREAKING
THEM, PUSHING THEM, TRYING THEM IN DIFFERENT SETTINGS AND GET A
MORE PRACTICAL INTUITION FOR THEIR STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES.
>> IN POLITICS, IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF PERIL, AND YOU'VE SAID
THAT THE USE OF AI SHOULD BE BANNED IN POLITICS?
>> RIGHT. THAT'S THE SENSIBLE, SAFE THING
TO DO UNTIL WE KNOW HOW TO FULLY CONTROL THEM AND WE'RE SUPER
CONFIDENT THAT THEY PRODUCE FACTUALLY ACCURATE RESPONSES
CONSISTENTLY. IN 2024, TWO BILLION PEOPLE ON
THE PLANET ARE GOING TO GO TO THE POLLS, INDIA, INDONESIA, THE
UK, AND OF COURSE THE U.S. ELECTION.
>> RIGHT.
>> EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO PRODUCE VIDEO, IMAGE, AUDIO,
TEXT, ALMOST AT HUMAN LEVEL QUALITY.
AND THAT RUNS THE RISK OF POLLUTING THE INFORMATION
ECOSYSTEM. SO I'VE SAID THAT THESE CHATBOTS
SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO PERSUADE YOU TOE VOTE FOR ONE CANDIDATE
OR ANOTHER. I'M CALLING ON MY INDUSTRY PEERS
TO AGREE TO THAT COMMITMENT PROACTIVELY AND VOLUNTARILY.
>> ARE THERE WAYS THAT YOU THINK AI COULD STRENGTHEN DEMOCRACY?
>> MOVING BEYOND NEXT YEAR, THESE AIs ARE GOING TO BE GOOD
ENOUGH THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO RELY ON THEM TO PROVIDE VERY
FACTUAL ACCOUNTS. AND I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY
GOING TO BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. PEOPLE WANT AN INTERACTIVE,
SMOOTH, EFFICIENT WAY TO ACCESS INFORMATION.
WHICH INVESTMENTS WERE MADE IN PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE?
WHAT DID THE REPORT SAY THAT NOBODY READ THAT THE ENTIRE
COMMITTEE SPENT TWO YEARS EVALUATING?
THEY COULD BE VERY USEFUL. WHEN YOU WERE AT LESLIE PARK
YESTERDAY, YOU WERE IN THE MEETING WITH VICE PRESIDENT
HARRIS. WAS THERE A LOT OF INFORMATION
ABOUT THIS? DID YOU SEE AN OPENING HERE FOR
WHERE INDUSTRY AND GOVERNMENT COULD COME TOGETHER TO PUT UP
SOME GUARD RAILS?
>> I THINK ALL THE WORLD LEADERS NOW ARE RECOGNIZING THAT THIS IS
A NEW TYPE OF RISK, AND EVERY NEW TECHNOLOGY INTRODUCES
BRAND-NEW BENEFITS THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE AND
BRAND-NEW RISKS. AND WE JUST HAVE TO ADAPT TO
THAT.
>> IN OUR COUNTRY, WE ARE FACING THE LIKELIHOOD THAT DONALD TRUMP
WILL BE THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE. HE WAS ELECTED IN 2016.
YOU HAVE SEEN ELECTION DISINFORMATION AIDED BY ANOTHER
COMPANY, USED ELECTION DISINFORMATION TO CAST DOWN
DOUBT ON THE 2020 ELECTION. HOW HOPEFUL CAN WE BE THAT IN
THE AMERICAN ELECTION, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE AI-GENERATED
CHAOS?
>> I THINK WE SHOULD ASSUME THAT THAT'S QUITE LIKELY, AND I THINK
WE HAVE TO START INTERVENING TO PUT GUARDRAILS IN PLACE RIGHT
NOW, BECAUSE IF WE WAIT, WE'LL REALLY REGRET IT.
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PROPAGANDA ♪ ♪ YOU CAN BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU
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