Previously,
on "The Real Housewives of Potomac" reunion.
The show, you know, is about taking ownership of
actions as they affect others.
Are any of you willing to do that tonight?
Andy, I believe in these women,
and I expect nothing less tonight.
All of the Twitter accused Robyn and I for Chris
and his alleged girlfriend.
Girl is a liar. She said a lot of things.
So, the screenshots are photoshopped?
I don't know what screenshots you're talking about.
The screenshots of your husband's limp-limp penis.
Hey, babe.
You like?
Okay, let's talk about Mr. Inc.
We did, like, rekindle the flame.
One of the things that Gordon did say,
was that Inc came to your house
and was trying to take Jeremiah
because he believed that that was his son.
Does Inc think Jeremiah is his son?
Girl...
He does.
♪
Part two of the reunion starts now.
Inc thinks that Jeremiah is his son?
- Mm-hmm. - Still?
Why does Inc think Jeremiah is his son?
Because we had an affair shortly after.
- An overlapping. - Yeah.
There was a little overlapping there.
- Okay. - Wow.
Now, here's the thing. I did IUI, right?
- Right. - So, and I'm a woman.
I know my body. - Right.
- For all of your children? - This child is Gordon's child.
- Right. - He looks just like Gordon.
- Yeah. - Did you tell--
then why does Inc still think it's his kid?
Jeremiah-- you know, Gordon has a little underbite.
Maybe he wants him to be his kid.
I don't know, you know.
I think children are off limits.
I don't care who the baby's father is,
but this baby is going to have to watch this.
I know. I know. Right. Let's-- we'll leave.
We're moving on. - So, I think,
if we could respectfully move-move on.
We're moving on. We're moved on.
Karen, is this new man the rapper
you heard Mia was with? - Yes.
- Okay. - And he's not a rapper.
- Okay. - He's a rapper deejay, right?
- He dabbles in rap. - He is a radio personality,
20 markets. - Yes.
- Okay. - Yes.
Yes, thank you. Thank you, Andy.
You're welcome.
Karen, when did you hear that I was with a rapper?
Let's clear this up. - Okay.
Uh, the Grande Dame family reunion party.
- Wait, he was there? - From that.
No, he wasn't. Inc wasn't there.
Inc wasn't, but Gordon was there.
- Okay, no. - No.
- But he wasn't at my party. - Uh-huh.
But I was told that you all connected after that,
to be quite honest with you. - No, we weren't talking then.
By the way, at the finale, Daddy G was there,
and he gave a really nice toast.
- Yeah. - Right.
- Speech. - Yeah...
So, it didn't seem like you were separating.
I just want y'all to know that I am so proud of her.
She is a role model
and a pretty darn good wife, too.
Robyn has been getting a ton of sh--
for not sharing what she was going through.
Everyone is talking about how transparent they are.
So... - I mean, but, Andy,
I also sat in that salt cave and told Robyn directly
that I was filing for divorce.
Before this whole crisis-- - Mm-hmm.
I had actually retained a lawyer
to file for a divorce. - What?
I know.
So, I'm very transparent. - Okay.
Can I ask? Watching that scene,
Gordon seems extremely angry.
- Let's pause there. - I'm out, guys. Thank you.
- Let's pause there. - No, I'm-I'm out.
No, let's pause there. You took my phone.
- You guys enjoy talking to her. - Locked me in a room.
Is he mad because he's no longer
financially where he was,
and you've decided to go with Inc,
who is more financially stable?
No.
So, Inc really has absolutely nothing to do
with my separation with Gordon.
- Okay. - It's just comingled
because-- - Of the timing.
- You know, the timing, yes. - Okay.
Does it have to do with Gordon's finances?
No, it doesn't.
It probably has more to do with his age.
No, it just has a lot to do with this constant,
like, all of a sudden, he's... gah... at me,
and I'm like, dude, like, what's the problem?
Waking me up at 4 o'clock in the morning
'cause you wanna have business chats
or, you know, emptying my bank account
as a form of abuse.
Like, I wake up, and all of my money is at zero.
It's controlling. - Yeah.
- And, I mean, eventually,
a girl has gotta do what a girl has gotta do.
- Yeah. - Wait, Mia,
did he ever do therapy for this anger management problem,
or...? - So, he's in therapy now.
Okay, a little too late.
Right? - Oh, my God.
Always have your own account, just-just saying.
Um, you said in your final scene with Gordon
that you've been sending him money.
Is he not working now? - No.
Are you supporting him financially now?
I am helping him. Yes.
One day, in the DR, you said you might have
married Gordon for money. But then, another day,
you said you entered the relationship
with more money from an inheritance.
Yeah.
Did I have more money when I was coming into
the relationship with Gordon?
Yes, but mine was on inheritance.
- You had more than Gordon? - So, I did.
- It was an inheritance? - Since when?
So, the same year that Gordon and I met,
I actually lost three grandparents.
- Okay. - So, fortunately for me,
I was able to get my hands on some cash.
But, at the same time, and a year after we married,
um, I realized that he was really functioning bankrupt.
Had this extravagant wedding, and we rolled out white carpet,
and he just-- he shouldn't have been doing all of that.
- Right. - Do you feel duped?
I feel like I wish I would have known
that he needed help managing all this money that he had.
Yeah.
A blog recently reported that you're being sued for rent
by the building in Bethesda that we saw you living in now.
Mm-hmm.
Did you not pay your rent?
So, we do have to go to court for that,
and the reason why that has not been paid,
is because Gordon refused to move out.
I left, and the reason why it's not paid,
is because I refused to cover the entire bill.
He has to pay his portion. - Okay, right.
So, when do you expect to finalize the divorce?
So, I have signed, like, an affidavit.
I can't get a divorce until June of this year,
at the earliest, and that's because we are up for sale
for our businesses, and they don't want me
to divorce him before that's done.
Okay. Candiace and Wendy,
your husbands have hung out with G a lot.
Did G ever drops hints to Chris or Eddie
that the marriage was in trouble?
Ooh.
- You-- - Go ahead.
When I went through this, everybody on this sofa
reached out to me except for Candiace and Wendy.
And I thought to myself-- - I didn't reach out.
I will own that. Yeah.
- Yeah. - Holy sh--,
these girls are not my friends. - Why didn't you reach out?
I will say this. You know, um, Mia,
in full transparency, when Gordon reached out
to our husbands-- - In a group chat.
He was there to annihilate you.
Yes.
He called you everything but a child of God.
- It was horrible. - It was vicious.
So, why wouldn't you call me to check and say,
"Hey, sis, you good?" - And, no, let me finish.
Let me-- let-let me finish. But let me finish.
Let me land. - Girl...
Where we left off last year,
you had physically assaulted me.
At that moment, I could have said this is my lick back.
I had all this information and ammo about you.
So, while I did not call you, please understand
that the woman I am, I never once said anything,
until today, about what he has said about you.
- Yes, yes. - Okay, well,
I will receive that. - And that shows you
that even though we may not be best friends,
there's a certain level of love and respect.
- And respect. - Oh.
- That I do have for you. - Yes.
I wanna say this to you.
I felt really uncomfortable for you.
Uh-huh.
I was really concerned for you.
I just didn't wanna be involved.
I mean, reaching out and saying you're concerned
isn't getting involved. It's just, you know,
being a friend. - It's, you know, and I will--
yeah, and I'm not saying that I expect the same treatment.
And I-- could I have reached out? Yes.
But I would reach out to you, if it was a reverse role.
- Yes. - Right.
You know, even Karen called, and Karen and I are on the outs.
I've been coming for her all year.
She called me several times.
Like, this is a sisterhood, right?
We wanna preach that, always, right?
- Yes, I-I would like-- - We love each other no matter what.
- Yes. - I don't care what y'all say.
I know we're not that heartless, okay?
- We're not. - Okay, I wanna back up a bit.
You've been posting a lot about your new relationship
on Instagram. Has anyone here met Inc?
- Via Facetime one time. - Yeah.
- Okay. - One time, on Facetime.
I got drunk at her house one night.
He was outside, and Mia wouldn't let us go and meet him.
He was supposed to come in.
He was supposed to come out and meet us.
- Oh, really? - Yeah.
He loves y'all, all y'all.
And let me tell you who he said is his favorite.
Wendy. - Oh, really?
Oh, uh, my-my man got taste, baby.
- Oh, wow. - Okay.
She's singing a whole new tune about Inc now.
Oh, Inc got taste.
It's the Godiva goddess, honey. Thank you, Inc.
- He said, "Ooh, she's--" - Uh, tell me,
where are you living now, and where is Gordon living?
Um, so, I do have a penthouse apartment
in Washington, DC. That's not surprising.
How many square feet is it, just out of curiosity?
- It's, like, 1,100. It's small. - Oh, it's not bad.
- All right, okay. - It's just me and the kids.
Huh? - Where is Gordon living now?
So, Gordon, right now, has an apartment in Charlotte,
but he is relocating, and he's going to move
right across the street in his own condo.
Okay.
Mia, can you just clarify the living situation
'cause when we all hung out, you were living in Atlanta?
It was so confusing. - Yeah.
Gordon was in Charlotte. The kids were in Charlotte.
- Yeah. - You had an apartment in DC,
but you were going back and forth, and--
I'm syndicated, baby.
- Oh, she in 20 markets, too. - Right, but-- yeah, clearly.
- Okay. - She's bicoastal, honey.
I'm looking at Houston. Y'all wanna go to Houston?
Sounds like it's gonna be a modern family to me.
There you go. Well, congratulations to you.
It really is. Yes, it is. [indistinct chatter]
- I'm really happy for you. - We can go on a double date.
- Yeah. - Sure.
Well, we are gonna be right back.
- I gotta go to the bathroom. - I have to.
Can we have five minutes to pee, guys? Yeah.
I should go. I just wanna stretch.
- Okay, yes, we can. - Okay.
[laughing]
Good Lord, help us all.
Coming up...
Chris, this year, a woman came out online
and claimed she had an affair with you
and even had an abortion for you.
Then, a few weeks later, said she made the whole thing up.
What happened there? What was that?
♪
You're, like, vehemently denying
you ever said a mistruth of a man who has never been
anything but kind to you.
Like, this is just the latest of the lies.
It's on tape. You said it.
Like, I would love for this to just move on and go away.
I mean, I haven't said anything about it
since the reunion last year, and it's still an ongoing topic,
which was kinda my concern last year because those things,
they just don't go away. - They don't.
And you have to be careful with the words that you use.
- And that's the danger. - And that's my-- right.
- About that, too. - Clear the gym, please.
Clear the gym. - Okay, hold on.
You want me to help you with the train?
- My dress needs a seat. - Move around.
- My dress needs a seat. - Okay, come on around.
Yes.
♪
You-you look like a very handsome limousine driver,
by the way. - It's giving Uber Black Car.
Uh, your pickup is here.
Hi, Miss Dixon. Uh, can I take those?
Okay. - Oh, Lord.
Oh, my God. - The car is over here.
Okay, oh, those, too? Okay. - What is Andy doing right now?
- Thank you, Miss Dixon. - He's offended.
- Okay. - He's insulted, Robyn,
by your comment. - You're slow.
You're walking too slow. - All right.
Well, hotel Gizelle was very busy this year.
While Grace was checking out to go off to college,
your friend, Jason, was checking in
to get his bachelor's in cougar arts and science.
- What? Who wrote this? - I did not write it.
Let's watch.
She's dating someone 17 years younger than her.
That woman was graduating high school
when Jason was in Pampers.
[baby crying]
I wouldn't know what to do with that.
- I do. - Yeah, clearly.
The west wing is seeing some things
it hasn't seen in a while.
I'm ready to leave.
Grace is about to graduate from high school
and go to college, baby.
- Are you gonna cry? - Yes.
Grace, I love you.
Bye, Grace.
It's just been us for, like, ever.
It's gonna be sad. I don't wanna do it.
♪ This is goodbye
She's going to an HBCU, a school in Florida.
Do you ever, like, have concern
about her going to school in Florida?
- Yes, 100%. - You do?
Candiace and Wendy, the looks on the faces,
I was, like, disgusted.
I'm gonna talk about my daughter,
and you're gonna scrunch your face up?
- Yeah. - Get the [BLEEP] outta here.
I don't like Gizelle.
So, no, when she speaks, I'm not listening.
These people called parents,
you never know what's gonna happen to them.
I know.
I'm so happy that I'm here 'cause he's been lying to me
for, like, two weeks.
Oh, my gosh.
Um...
[sighs] Let's talk about that later.
She told me that her father has brain cancer,
and I know that her dad is her world.
Gizelle is going through a lot, right now.
Her dad is headed into surgery.
When my mom was having surgery,
my mom was in the hospital,
Gizelle was making fun of my mother in Texas.
I have nothing else to say about her.
Right now, I'm just, like, in shock.
Like, I just need to get through the day
and get to my dad.
I just wanna say, first, before you ask me any question,
that's a lie.
That's a bold-faced lie, Wendy.
I didn't know your mother was in the hospital.
They've-- nobody told me your mother was in the hospital.
When did I make fun of your mother?
You said you talked to Jamal,
and you said my mother was evil.
What are you talking about?
I'm talking about your mother in the hospital.
Because it's-- because-because it's people's--
No, it's a bold-faced lie.
She-she, what she's saying, is that
while her mother was in the hospital,
you called her evil. - Correct, correct.
She's saying she did not know your mother
was in the hospital. - At all.
In one-- at all. - That's fine, but that doesn't
negate the fact that she called my mother evil-- - At all.
...while my mother was in the hospital.
Like, if we're gonna try to move forward in any way,
let's respect each other's parents,
and let's not be snide in our comments.
Absolutely and stop lying when it comes to
what I said about your mother
because I did not know your mother was in the hospital.
I stand by that.
Okay.
Um, I'm sorry to hear about your dad passing.
Thanks, Andy.
He really was an amazing man, and it was so cool
getting to know him on the show.
Everyone loved watching your relationship with him
through the years. - Uh-huh.
Tell me about his celebration of life.
Oh, that was good.
Um, Robyn was there.
Uh-huh. Here you go.
Do you wanna talk about it?
[laughing]
Um, I wanna say a couple things.
So, as it relates to this show,
everyone told me not to do it but my dad.
- Yeah, but your dad? - Yeah.
Really? And why did he tell you to do it?
'Cause he was like, "You're amazing,
and everybody needs to see that."
And he, you know, loved being able to take us
to New Orleans and do all that and just support me
in any way possible.
The significance of this plantation today,
is that this is the only plantation museum
in the United States that has been dedicated
to the pain and the suffering of slavery.
[bell ringing]
When the day was over, that's the way the slaves
were called from the field, with a bell.
He always wanted
to have a celebration of life.
He never wanted, like, a funeral.
He wanted a party.
So, I gave him his wish in New Orleans,
and we had a big party, and it was amazing.
He lived an amazing life,
and, um, I was there with him
when he took his breath.
- It's okay, it's okay. - You were?
And I remember you were.
- I know, with my mom, yeah. - Yep.
It's okay.
And... you know,
he-he taught me so much.
You know, when-when they gave out dads, I lucked up.
I got, like, one of the best of the best,
but it's been tough.
You know, the ones of you that rallied around me
and... you know,
made sure that I was okay
and checked on me and all that,
I, you know, truly appreciate.
Karen, you know, Karen was like,
"I wanna come over and feed the kids."
- She didn't invite me, Andy. - Okay.
- So, that was my way. - That's--
But I had to respect her process.
That is nice.
I'm curious why you're crying, Candiace.
She cries when the wind blows left, chile.
Even when it's not about her.
No, but what's-what's got you?
- I can't, I can't. - Really?
♪
You know, when-when they gave out dads, I lucked up.
I got, like, one of the best of the best,
but it's been tough.
I'm curious why you're crying, Candiace.
She cries when the wind blows left.
No, but what's got you?
- I feel for her. - You feel for Gizelle?
- Yes. - The loss.
- Losing her dad, yeah. - Yes.
Yes, that's heavy.
I mean, I just wanna point out,
with all of your feelings aside,
that you have someone who is feeling
a lot of emotion for what you just expressed
about your dad,
and there's something really nice about that.
- Tough moment. - Yeah, and she's had the emotion
that shows that she does care for you.
So, yeah. - That's kinda what I'm trying to acknowledge.
- We get it. - We get it, Andy.
- Okay, okay. - We have--
we're picking up what you're putting down.
- Oh, my God. - Okay.
We're picking up what you're putting down.
[laughing] - But yeah.
Boy, now that Wendy is a talk show host,
she's giving me a lot of notes.
You guys have to switch seats.
- Oh, my God. - I know, I'm ready to.
I'm fine. - Andy, come sit over here.
It's been a long day.
You know, you don't show emotion very much.
- No. - No.
Um, and here you are, talking about your-your dad,
and we also saw some emotion
when Grace left for college.
- Yeah. - How is she doing?
Um, super happy about where she is
and-and super happy that my dad
got to see her graduate.
Um... - Yeah.
And Angel and Adore now, are-are they--
are they in?
They-they have, um, committed to where they're going.
I saw, when I was watching you
with the-with the girls, I texted you.
I was bawling my eyes out. - Yeah.
- I feel like
we've watched your daughters grow up.
- Yeah. - I know, it's incredible.
- It is amazing, yeah. - It makes me--
I-I just can't get over it.
And now that I have kids, and I'm sure you--
- Right, yes. - It hits you the same way.
It's incredible to see. - Yeah,
'cause that's gonna be us one day.
- Yeah. - But it's also incredible
to see, for all of you, what great-great moms you are.
It's really impressive to see. - They're the best part of us.
- Yeah. - Yes.
And I'm so impressed with how these girls have grown up.
- Thank you. - And so, Karen,
do you think you should have taken a stronger stand
towards Candiace and Wendy
when they made faces at each other
while Gizelle was talking about being afraid for Grace?
Do you ever have concern
about her going to school in Florida?
Yes.
I mean, Florida, in my mind, is like
a whole 'nother country of its own.
Yeah, it's its own world down there, yeah.
The way the governor is acting a fool.
I am not responsible for any of these women
and their actions, let's be very clear.
Can I, in hindsight,
say-- stand up and beat the table
and say, "Hey, look, we're not, you know,
doing the right thing?" I can.
- Right, okay. - But, no,
in no way am I responsible for Wendy or Candiace.
I cannot be-- I cannot take that on.
To be honest, I've seen everybody make faces
at each other in this group
and especially when there's a discord.
Uh-- - Karen, don't do that.
Karen, don't do that. - Excuse me.
He asked me a question. - I was talking about my daughter!
Why would anybody be making any sort of faces?
- I-I regret greatly-- - Good, thank you.
That Gizelle would try to weaponize, once again,
her children to make Candiace and Wendy
look like we are evil people.
I did not-- I have never weaponized my children.
I have always-- I have always--
I have never weaponized my children.
...shown love to all three of your children, okay?
- Andy, can I? - All right, yes, Wendy.
- I'm done with it. - Yes, Wendy.
The-the last-- the last part I would like to say is,
something that you guys didn't see was,
I congratulated Gizelle on where her daughter was going.
- Oh, I did, as well. - I even--
I even said to her, "You know, is she gonna be in AKA?"
- Yes. - Like, I brought up our sorority.
- Yes. - That didn't happen.
It didn't happen. - Yes, it did.
- Yeah, it did. - Nope, don't remember that.
That happened in Austin while we were--
If y'all find the tape, tape it.
- I don't think so. - They say they don't have it.
That never happened. - They don't have--
they don't have it? - 'Cause it never happened.
- It never happened. - I remember that.
Thank you for-- thank you for remembering.
- I remember it. - Of course.
- Thank you for remembering. - It never happened.
- All right, okay. - Yes, yes.
And if it happened, they'd have the tape.
- Not necessarily. - Okay, I'm leaving it.
I'm leaving it there.
Uh, speaking of the youth, how is your man, Jason?
Oh, Jason, the youth? Okay.
- The youth. - Andy is shady.
- Yeah. - Um, uh, Jason is good.
Jason is good. - Okay.
It seems like you have a lot of fun.
- Yeah. - And it's not that deep.
Right.
Do you have rules in terms of,
look, Jason, just don't embarrass me,
if you're out with another girl,
or how does that work? - Yeah, I've never said it like that.
So, Jason and I, in the beginning,
very much talked about, like,
yo, don't have any bullsh-- on social media.
Like, I'm not-- I'm not trying to explain your behavior.
- Okay. - But you are free to do
whatever it is that you wanna do.
- Okay. - As am I.
So, there were photos recently,
I think as recent as this week,
of Jason kissing a blonde woman
that have been, like, circling around the Internet.
- Yeah. - People are speculating
that they're serious.
Have you seen them? What's your reaction to that?
Yeah, he called me and told me
before I saw it. - Okay.
I don't have the capacity to care about
what Jason or any guy that I'm dealing with
does past my eyeballs.
- Wait, I have a question, Andy. - Yeah.
So, you're free to do whatever you wanna do.
- Yeah, yeah. - Jason can do what he wants to do.
Are you seeing other men, currently?
Yeah. [laughing]
- Oh. - Mia Thornton.
Tell us the truth, Mia.
Tell us what it really is. - Um, I mean, yeah,
I mean, I, yeah, that's not off limits.
I know, but do you have someone you're involved with
now a little bit? - I mean, 'ish.
Just with all that's happened lately,
I-I just emotionally need to get myself together.
- No west wing action. - No west wing, yeah.
- Okay. - So, are any of them athletes?
[laughing]
They're people.
[laughing] - Um, they are people.
- Yeah. - So, that's the lovefest.
- Love journey. - Love journey, there we go.
- Love journey. - Yeah.
And so, like, we're in New York City now.
Will you see him later tonight?
- Yes, yeah. - Oh, great, all right.
Well, I can't wait for this love journey.
[laughing]
I can't wait to see what happens.
Going down.
We're gonna be right back after this.
Coming up...
I know the fans have questions.
Yeah.
I know this great friend group has questions.
But I want to share something with you that, uh,
some of you may have suspected, but many of you
probably don't know.
♪
Okay, clearing glam, please. Thank you.
Everybody looks great.
- You okay? - Yeah.
- You sure? - Taking our seats, please.
Five seconds, four, three.
We're back with the Real Housewives of Potomac.
Candiace, your blossoming music career should have
given you a lot to smile about this year,
but blowback from social media and issues with
the green-eyed bandits had you reaching
for your trusty cry angle. Watch.
I spent over six figures to go on tour.
The thing I'm gonna say is, do you need dancers?
Do you need a band?
I'm not Alanis Morissette.
I had my first mammogram, and I had, like, two lumps.
My concern, if I'm to get pregnant,
the hormones could accelerate whatever is growing in my boob.
Sure.
Candiace, Michael Darby is suing you.
I'm not speaking about that.
So, can we get a list of what we're not supposed to
talk about?
I'm disappointed that he felt he had to
come up with a lawsuit.
Michael is trying to make a point.
Yes, he is.
I mean, you just can't talk like that
about people so reckless. - You know, it is what it is.
[laughing]
I know nothing of this lawsuit.
Quite frankly, that is not my fish to fry,
and Michael is not volunteering any information. So...
Robyn has always been like a big sister to me.
I reached out to you, and you ignored me.
- Are you serious? - I'm just, I mean, I just--
I just want accuracy.
After-after you've trashed me on social media
incessantly, really?
First word or phrase-- Robyn Dixon.
Fraud.
- So, she never apologized? - No.
- Robyn was my friend. - Then why--
All I've wanted to do, is be there for her.
Cry angle is just always a little too handy.
When you were on Twitter and gave your ranting commentary
about what was going on in my life,
did you think that everything was gonna be okay after that?
The friendship is-is killed.
What she did, is unforgivable.
Run to Twitter and talk all the sh-- you want
about me. I don't give a [BLEEP]!
- You're not a victim. - I'm not trying to be a victim.
None of us should use social media to weaponize
against each other.
Okay, but it's okay to weaponize sh--
against me and my husband. The line is always moving!
All right, uh, lots to discuss.
I wanna start with what's going on in your life.
You did have a scare this year when you discovered
a lump in your breast.
Did you get a second opinion? - I did.
Um, I went to, like, a breast specialist.
The goal was to get the lump biopsied.
It had shrunk to-- so small-- - Wow.
- Great. - That I didn't have to.
- Great. - God is good.
There is virtually-- thank you-- nothing there now.
I encourage all of my friends to check on yourselves.
- Get a mammogram. - Good, yes.
- Yeah. - Good message.
The tour was great, nine cities. - Yes.
And how big were the rooms you were playing?
I think the biggest was probably 1,200.
Yeah, the Fillmore. - That's great.
- Oh, the one I came to. - Yeah.
- Oh, that was good. - Yeah.
- You played the Fillmore? - She did.
- Yeah. - And me and K were there.
- Like, in-- - Yeah, um, in Silver Spring.
Well, there-there are Fillmores in different places.
Yeah. - Oh, okay, all right.
Um, Erin from L.A. wants to know if something happened
between you and Drew Sidora at the Atlanta show.
Why wouldn't you want her to open for you again?
What do you think about having Drew be a special guest?
Is that your only option?
No, I mean, 'cause we did Chicago before,
I could bring the same girl from before back.
I mean, I think-- - Yeah, we should do that.
[sighs]
I do business a certain way, and when I want to do business
with someone that a friend knows,
I go to the friend first. - Okay.
And that wasn't done. So, I-I--
it just kind of left a-a weird taste in my mouth.
Uh-huh.
Isn't this what Katy Perry and Taylor Swift?
It's what "Bad Blood" is about. - Is that what it's about?
- Oh, really? - Yes.
Oh.
One of them tried to take the other's backup dancer.
- Oh, I didn't know that. - Yes.
- Over a backup dancer. - Over a backup dancer.
I mean, those are-- they're valuable.
Yes, yes.
Yes, they are very important.
So, Michael's lawsuit against you was dismissed.
How do you feel now that it's over?
I mean, I'm obviously relieved and happy
they handled it all. - He was suing you for what?
Defamation? - Yes.
Uh, Carmen from Washington said, "Ashley, you know
you knew all the details of the lawsuit.
Michael is still financing your lifestyle.
So, you were hoping to get some of that money, too,
weren't you?" Ooh, that's dark.
Let's put this to rest.
I didn't know anything about this case in any capacity.
And, no, I did not stand to gain any financial gain. So...
My mom was also convinced that you knew.
- No, I really didn't. - And-and I-I, also,
I don't think that you knew anything.
I was like, mom, it's-it's fine.
- Sorry, Miss Dot. - Yeah.
Well, Candiace, your internet activity
has been a point of contention on this show
for several years now. - Yes, it has.
This year, it actually affected your relationship
with Robyn.
You guys had a really cool friendship,
I always thought.
I wanna boil it down a little bit
now that we're at the reunion,
and we can kinda break the fourth wall.
I wonder, Robyn, did you feel like
she was coming after your job?
So, what I felt when I read her tweets,
and the Variety article, and, you know, everything else,
I felt she was being critical of my job.
It just, as a friend, uh, that's something
you just don't do to a friend.
I-I need-- I would like to respond.
Um, I think, what is missing here,
is a very specific timeline.
So, we shot the reunion last year on,
I think, January 19th.
On January 23rd, you posted something,
and you still had, like, your reunion hair, and it was--
I thought it was pretty, so I said, "Oh, pretty,"
'cause your hair was pretty. - No, you said, "Long hair."
- Long hair, yes. - Yeah.
And you responded and said something like,
"Well, I guess I should probably..."
I said, "It probably makes me look more like
a white adjacent looking woman,
which I can't imagine is a good thing."
Yes, yes.
So, this was after the reunion.
And yes, right.
Her comments about, um, Gizelle, white privileged skin,
her previous tweet about white adjacent looking woman--
- Yes. - Those hit me hard, as well.
Okay, can-can I-- I would-- can I just finish my--
Yeah, I just-- you can finish.
- Yes, and I-I understand that. - Yeah.
And I receive that now.
Um, my response, at the time, was, "Are you mad at me?"
Correct.
And you read it, and you did not respond.
Correct.
In March, I texted you after the stuff happened with Juan.
Yeah.
And said, "I'm sorry this is happening to you,
and I'm sorry it's happening to your family."
You didn't respond to-- that's now two messages
that you've ignored.
So, then, yeah, when this stuff comes out about you
and the pay wall, it's like, oh, she's, like,
on one, and I was pissed-pissed.
I tweeted what I tweeted. It hurt you.
So, I will apologize for hurting you
because that's not what I wanted to do.
Okay, so, I-- so, I did not respond
to your message. - Okay, yes.
Because that colorism conversation
is so uncomfortable for me. - I understand.
It was an extremely uncomfortable thing
to be accused of.
I've never experienced that in my life, never.
- Okay. - And I did not know how...
Yeah, how do you navigate that?
Mm-hmm.
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So, I did not respond to your message.
Okay, yes.
Because that colorism conversation
is so uncomfortable for me. - I understand.
So uncomfortable.
It was an extremely uncomfortable thing
to be accused of.
I've never experienced that in my life, never,
and I did not know how...
Yeah, how do you navigate that?
I mean, it was just extremely hurtful
to not only be on the receiving end
of being accused of being a colorist,
which I think is horrible, but still,
when the stuff about Juan came out,
all y'all talked about it, but nobody accused me
of plotting, of, you know, lying, of cover up, like,
none of that.
That is the stuff that really, really,
really hurt me as a friend.
I wanna go back to the colorism conversation.
I grew up in a household where talking about race,
and color, and the diaspora was, like,
commonplace.
So, for me, talking about any aspect of race
is not uncomfortable for me.
I mistakenly thought that you all thought that way,
as well. It-it was--
it was my mistake to think--
I-I don't have any problems talking about colorism.
I am a-- I'm a member of black sorority.
I'm-I'm not-- I'm not talking to you.
You are. - I went to a black college.
I can have colorism conversations.
Yes, and you-- and you will talk about race
and-and color when it benefits you.
And that has nothing to do with you going on social media
and insinuating that we're colorists.
Those are two different things.
I did not insinuate that you were colorists.
Yes, you did.
- That is your interpretation. - Yes, you did.
- And I did not. - Yes, you did.
Well, question, did ever say that they're not?
- Yes. - They did.
She said it at the last reunion. - Yes.
The topic that's come up frequently is colorism.
Candiace, you were the most vocal
when you spoke to the producers.
You told them that you didn't think
your castmates were colorists.
However, you still felt that the conversation
needed to be had.
She said it on the reunion couch
after the nar-- after the-- after it went crazy
and snowballed already.
She said it at the last reunion.
She said-- she literally wanted--
She literally opened up the conversation by saying,
"I don't believe any of my castmates are colorists."
It was-- it was talked about on the reunion
because it was out of control on Twitter.
If we step back for a second, and if this was
a black and white conversation, it's almost equivalent
to someone saying, "Man, I'm so hurt
that you called me a racist, but when is the conversation
ever going to shift--" - It's not.
"To say why did you think or believe that to be true
for me to be a racist?" - It's not.
- Hmm. - Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Because if you're not gonna talk about why they believe
this phenomenon exists, then let's not talk about
the phenomenon itself. - At all.
Guys, there are-- there's no better group
of Black women on the Bravo network
to talk about that than us.
No, actually, that's very incorrect
because if you want to talk about colorism,
then you need to have the range to talk about it.
- Well, it's range-- - And a lot of people
on this couch-- - Do not.
Whether you want to admit it or not,
do not have the range. - Do not.
- And I will stop it there. - And that's okay.
What was the reason why you guys are colorists?
I don't know.
If you wanna start with the reason,
let's start with the reason.
So, let-let's find out why-- - Because it's any--
- You guys are colorists. - So, any time we have
a conflict with a brown-skinned person,
we're a colorist,
but we forget that Karen-- - I wanna--
- And I beefed. - I wanna wrap out of this--
Ashley and I beefed for three years.
- With Robyn and Candiace. - Okay.
- It's not-- it's not fair-- - I don't-- I want to--
- To introduce-introduce-- - Robyn, I wanna-- I wanna--
- That conversation here. - Wrap out of this conversation.
I'm assuming that there's no place
for the two of you to go, right now.
I-- the worst has been done.
- Worst has been done? - And if this is--
If this is friendship ending,
after everything that we have sat on this stage
over the last eight seasons and watched be done to her,
so be it.
All right. I'm gonna leave it there
'cause we're gonna bring the husbands out.
We'll be right back after this. - Let's bring the husbands out.
Are you okay with the apology you did receive, though?
She apologized for something.
Well, but she still believes that I plotted on her husband.
So... - So, let it go.
But that's-- but that's one.
Like, we need to take steps here.
Yeah.
[overlapping chatter] - What to do? What to do?
Ray, you look good. - Where y'all Going?
- We're going to the bathroom. - Oh, okay,
glad to see you guys. - Hi, Ray.
- How you doin'? You guys okay? - Muah. Good to see you.
Yes.
I'm going to.
What you don't wanna do, is allow anybody to stop you.
So, if anyone tries to interrupt you,
you say, "Hey, can I speak?"
Again, what you don't want, is me speaking for you.
I will do that. - You are not helping me.
Hello, everyone.
Yeah, I'm not responsible for what I even said.
- Blame me. - All right.
It's my fault.
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[sighs] - Give me your hand.
Okay, go, team.
♪
Hey, hey, one, two, three, four, five.
Hey, everybody, welcome back
to "The Real Housewives of Potomac" reunion.
I'm joined by the always affable
real husbands of Potomac.
and I gotta tell you something, Ike,
I wanna steal your outfit.
[laughing] - After this, you can borrow it.
I gotta tell you.
- Uh, how you doin', Ray? - I'm goin' great, Andy.
And yourself? - I'm great.
What do you think of Karen's, uh, triple-20 tweaks?
Uh, yeah. [laughing]
She looks, uh, a lot younger than triple-20.
I can tell you that.
- Hi, G. - How you doin', Andy?
- It's very nice to see you. - Glad to be here.
A lotta talk and speculation about your marriage, I--
- Really? - Yes, can you believe it?
- Get out. No kidding? - Yes.
How you doin', Chris? - I'm good. How are you?
Good to see you.
Happy Eddie... - In the flesh.
How is the business goin'?
- Business is going well. - Yeah.
The business is going really well.
Uh, we have, in less than six months,
over $2 million in sales,
and that's just six months along.
- That's amazing. - Wow, that is great.
People love their cannabis. They love their cannabis.
Mia, um, you had said you were the other girl
on guys' trips to the D.R.
Care to elaborate?
[chuckling] - Uh, sure.
[laughing] Um, when Gordon and I first--
before we got married-- - Okay.
Um, he would take golf trips to places,
the islands or wherever,
and, um, yeah, there's another set of women there.
And fortunately for me,
I have been able to see both sides.
Okay, I don't understand any of that.
She's saying that the girlfriends
were on this trip. - Yeah.
She was a girlfriend, not the wives.
- Oh, okay. - Yeah.
And now, she's saying she's a wife.
And then when I turned into the wife--
- Thank you. Okay. - I-I got a chance
to be with the wives-- - Got it. All right. Okay.
- Of the same men. - I understood it.
Chris, we didn't see you a lot this season.
Was that by design? - Uh, yeah. Yeah, it was.
You don't wanna be in the mess.
If I'm not wanted around,
I don't need to be around. It's okay.
Well, are you not wanted around by Candiace?
- Oh, no, no, I want him around. - Oh, no, with Candiace.
- Oh, okay. - But when you have
a group of women who do everything in their power
to push him out with lies-- - Okay.
Then why would he be comfortable coming around,
is what he's saying.
Okay, Chris, are you still of the mind
that Robyn was in on a plot against you last year?
Oh, my God.
And was fake supportive just to cover up her own thing?
Honestly, after last year's reunion,
I'm tired of talking about it.
I haven't mentioned it since that reunion.
- Okay. - I'm sorry,
the three subsequent interviews that aired after the reunion.
I haven't talked about it.
I haven't tweeted about anything.
I just really don't give a [BLEEP].
I'm good. I'm really good.
Um, Julianna from Virginia Beach said,
"Chris, this year, a woman came out online
and claimed she had an affair with you
and even had an abortion for you.
Then, a few weeks later,
said she made the whole thing up."
What happened there?
What was that?
Uh, had you ever met the person?
No, I've never met this person.
So, the screenshots are--
I've never met this person.
So, she photoshopped screenshots from your account?
I'll-I'll say it to you one more time.
I have never met this person.
Well, right, okay, you didn't meet her,
but you-- but you could still send screenshots.
I don't know anything about screenshots.
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and claimed she had an affair with you
and even had an abortion for you.
Then, a few weeks later,
said she made the whole thing up."
What was that?
Had you ever met the person?
No, I've never met this person.
So, the screenshots,
so she photoshopped screenshots from your account?
I'll-I'll say it to you one more time.
I have never met this person.
Well, right, okay, you didn't meet her,
but you-- but you could still send screenshots.
I don't know anything about screenshots.
She said-- she said it, that it happened.
Then she said she lied about it.
So, it is what it is. - She said a lot of things.
Then she-- but then she-- then she said
she didn't lie about it. She retracted the lie.
So, again, I did. I didn't. I did. I didn't.
I have nothing to say on that. - Okay.
Rita from Jacksonville said,
"Candiace, did you pay that woman off,
so she'd say she made the whole thing up?"
[laughing] "Her quick retraction
was very serious."
Was it quick?
I don't-- I don't remember, like, the--
Oh, was it not quick?
I don't remember the timeline.
- Okay. - But, uh, no.
The answer is, no, I did not. I didn't pay anyone.
You had expressed-- you had expressed that
these ladies were behind this rumor.
I don't know that to be true,
but I am so distrusting, at this point,
of particularly Gizelle,
that I don't put anything past her.
So, that is not true,
and the girl even came out and said,
"Please keep Gizelle out of it.
I don't know her."
She-she said a lot of things.
"I don't-- have never talked to her.
I've never seen her.
She has nothing to do with this.
Chris and I had an inappropriate relationship,
and that's it."
She said, "Do not put Gizelle in it."
Like, so, I don't-- - She has no credibility.
But, like, you feel how you feel.
She feels how she feels.
People can feel how they want to feel, and that's okay.
It's not a feel. That's what she said.
I don't know this woman.
Candiace said she feels that way,
much like you said you feel a way
about what happened two years ago.
People feel how they feel.
So, you want to be-- - Very good.
Acknowledged for your feelings?
Very good.
Let her be acknowledged for her feelings.
- Great. - Fantastic. Next question.
Okay. Uh, I thought that you and Gizelle
had kinda cleared the air last year and were cool,
but it kinda seems like we're back to square one.
I didn't say anything.
Like I said, I have nothing more to say on the matter.
I left it at the reunion last year.
It is what it is.
I mean, it's very interesting.
Some people say that Candiace needs
to be responsible for her words,
but to allow somebody to say,
"I used the wrong word,"
and we're just gonna say, "Okay."
All right.
So, Juan is not here today.
Husbands, knowing what you all know about this season
and how Robyn has kind of had to fight battles
on his behalf,
what do you think of him not showing up today?
Oh. Oh.
Any husbands have an opinion about that?
Nobody wants to speak.
- They don't care. - No.
- Not really. - No comment.
No comment.
Well, I mean, just because you all have been
the subject of gossip or drama,
and you all come to every reunion
for as long as you've been on the show.
Why is it important for you to come and support your wives?
I guess that's a bigger question.
You got to-- you know, and I don't want
to throw Juan under the bus,
so I don't want this comment taken
as me criticizing someone else.
Okay.
But I was coming to support my wife.
- Okay. - Now ex-wife,
but I was coming to support her if she wanted me here.
I'm coming. - Not yet.
Y'all are still-- I think y'all are still married.
- Y'all are still married. - Aww.
Um, so, Gordon, obviously, a lot happened
between you and Mia this season,
both on and off camera.
Well, Andy, first off,
I appreciate the opportunity to address this.
I'm excited, actually, to do this.
Okay.
And I know the fans have questions.
- Yeah. - I know
this great friend group has questions.
But I want to share something with you
that, uh, some of you may have suspected,
but many of you probably don't know.
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