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[HOWLING ON TV]

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Okay.

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[HOWLING CONTINUES]

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- [MAN ON TV] Hello?
- [KNOCKING ON TV]

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[THEME MUSIC PLAYING]

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- Thanks for coming up, Dr. Carr.
- Of course.

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I realized I don't know much
about your life in Boston,

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outside of your work at the university.
Do you have a husband?

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- No.
- Kids, or...?

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No. Neither.

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I've been following your work,
and I have to say I'm rather impressed.

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Well, thank you. I appreciate that.

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I'm not the only one.

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There's a growing interest
in your project around here.

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So I was wondering,
Agents Tench and Ford

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can't run this all by themselves,

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if you would be interested in managing

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the project and keeping things on track

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in a more permanent position
here at Quantico.

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- No. I can't.
- You don't have to answer now.

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It's very flattering,
but I already have a job in Boston.

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Dr. Carr, your knowledge
and professionalism

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have already had a great impact

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on our understanding
of behavioral science.

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It would be a shame
not to take full advantage of that.

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Take your time.

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Sleep on it.

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I'd rather you didn't
tell Tench or Ford

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about this until you
make your decision.

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- They don't know?
- No.

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I have two questions for you, Benjamin.
First one...

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- That thing on?
- Yes.

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What the fuck were you crying about
last time we saw you?

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And secondly, and this one
is a big question,

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so I want you to listen very carefully.

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Are you listening to me? Benji?

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Why? Why would you do that
to Beverly Jean?

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Fractured jaw. Two black eyes.

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Why?

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Fourteen stab wounds in the torso
with a kitchen knife.

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Blow to the head, blunt force trauma.

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Her breasts were amputated.

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I need to know this.

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Why would you do that
to your girlfriend, man?

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I didn't.

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So you're telling us it was Frank.

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He called us. He was freaked out.
I went over.

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- And then?
- I walked into the living room

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and Beverly Jean was knocked out
on the floor, tied up.

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Did he tell you what happened?

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[FRANK] Benji was a total mess.

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Think he tried to get into
her panties or something,

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she wouldn't let him,
he knocked her out.

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- That's why he called you?
- He calls me when he's in trouble.

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- [HOLDEN] She was alive at this point?
- Yes.

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- So why'd you kill her?
- Don't answer that.

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I didn't.

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Why would a man, any man,
do that to a woman's breasts?

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And who would take a hunting knife
to a woman's reproductive organs?

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All right.

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"All right"?
There's nothing right about it.

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That's enough.
Now my client's also a victim here.

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A victim?
Interesting, thank you, I'll take that.

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Let's do an easy one.
Why did you do that to her hair?

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[MAN] You don't have to answer that.

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[HOLDEN] So you did cut her hair?

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Frank seems to think Beverly Jean
got to a point

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where she was interested
in seeing other guys.

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She'd just had her hair done, right?

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Let me ask you one more thing.

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How does stabbing somebody
in the asshole make you feel better?

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Enough. This is speculation.

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You still have the death penalty
in Pennsylvania?

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Don't threaten my client.

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[HOLDEN] Tell us you're not a monster.
Give us one reason to believe.

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She fucked Frank.

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[TENCH] He told you this?

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- [BENJAMIN] I saw.
- [TENCH] What?

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I saw her on the living room floor
with Frank on top of her.

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So what did you do?

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- [BENJAMIN] Nothing.
- You didn't do anything?

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- [BENJAMIN] No.
- You didn't hit him?

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- No.
- You hit her.

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[TENCH] Why would Beverly Jean
want sex with Frank?

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He's always saying he liked her hair.

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Every time he saw her.

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Thing is, he didn't care
about her hair at all.

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He just... used it to rile me.

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She was too stupid to notice.

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- So you killed her?
- [BENJAMIN] I didn't kill her.

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She was already dead when I stabbed her.

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She was already dead.

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- [TENCH] You raped her in front of him?
- He told you that?

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Why fuck your
brother-in-law's girlfriend?

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- Maybe show him how to do it?
- Maybe to mess with him?

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Fuck you.

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I hope they fry your ass
in the fucking chair.

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Don't try to intimidate my client.

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If Benjamin killed her,
you should just tell us.

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I didn't see Benji kill her.

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[RECORDER CLICKS]

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I hate that fuck Frank,
but it's always the boyfriend.

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When you're lost, you play the odds.
It's Benjamin.

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I'm not so sure.

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You should have seen Frank
after you walked out of the room.

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He looked at me and said,
"I did not see Benjamin kill her."

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- They're messing with us.
- I believed him.

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- I am sick and tired of this shithole.
- I know.

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Hey. Nancy made me promise
to invite you to dinner.

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She wants to see who I'm
spending all this time with.

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Have a look at you.

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I would love that.

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- Could I bring Debbie?
- Of course.

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- Thanks.
- [WIND BLOWING]

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[ROSE ON TAPE] I saw Benji.

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He had his head in his hands.
He was crying.

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There was blood everywhere.

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Splashing.

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And then I see Beverly Jean
in the bathtub.

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[TENCH] Was she alive?

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[ROSE] I saw Benji.

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He had his head in his hands.
He was crying.

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There was blood everywhere.

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Splashing.

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And then I see Beverly Jean
in the bathtub.

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She was there.

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What makes you say that?

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"Splashing."

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She doesn't describe splashes
on the wall,

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she uses a verb in the present tense.

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She says, "Splashing."

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[TAPE REWINDING]

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[ROSE] There was blood everywhere.

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Splashing.

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Beverly Jean was still alive
when Rose got there.

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[TENCH] Jesus.

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The three of them are in it together.

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That's right.

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[SIGHS]

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[GERRY RAFFERTY'S
"BAKER STREET" PLAYING]

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[DEBBIE] This feels very grown up.

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- [HOLDEN] What does?
- This.

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Going to dinner at your partner's house.

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You putting on a tie
and being all nervous.

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I am not nervous.

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- If you don't want to go, just say so.
- I do want to go.

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Well, you could be
a little less sarcastic.

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What makes you think
I'm being sarcastic?

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♪ And it's taken you so long ♪

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♪ To find out you were wrong
When you thought it held everything ♪

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♪ You used to think
That it was so easy... ♪

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[SIGHS]

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That's better.

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[DOORBELL RINGS]

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Hi. Welcome. Please come in.

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Hi! I'm so happy that you're here.
Come in.

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- I'm Nancy.
- I'm Bill.

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Debbie. I've heard a lot about you.

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I can only imagine
what Holden might have said.

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I have been dying to meet you.
Isn't it crazy that we haven't met yet?

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Yes, I've been dying to meet you, too.

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[NANCY LAUGHS]

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[EXHALES] Look at you. You're babies.

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Would you like a glass of wine?

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I'd love one.

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I have so much to talk to you about.

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Let's get you a drink.

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[ANDY KIM'S
"BABY, YOU'RE ALL I GOT" PLAYING]

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Well, hello there.

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Say hello, Brian.

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[HOLDEN] It's okay.
I used to have these when I was a kid.

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♪ Baby, you're all I got ♪

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I used to see how tall I could make
the tower before it fell over.

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♪ In this world ♪

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May I?

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- Oh!
- Uh-oh!

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Brian, its almost time
to brush your teeth.

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Come on, let's have a drink.

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I'm getting too old
for one cheap motel after another.

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One highway grill after another.

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Sports bars. No one can mix a martini.

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Mm! I can mix a martini.

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- Nancy makes the best dry martini.
- Is that right?

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If nothing else, I can do that.

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What about you?

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- I can't mix a martini.
- But he sure can drink 'em.

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[NANCY CHUCKLING] No.

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Where are you from?
Bill never tells me much.

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I know that you did Road School
for a while, but...

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Does he tell you anything?

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Oh, yes. Holden loves to talk.

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See? It's possible to talk
about things together. [CLEARS THROAT]

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[NANCY] Where were you born?

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Mm! Let me guess.

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Certainly not New York.

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You're more of a Midwestern kind of guy.

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See?

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Actually, I was born in Brooklyn.

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[DEBBIE AND NANCY LAUGHING]

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I was. I don't know why
you always think that's funny.

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[NANCY] I'm sorry.

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Sure. Go ahead and make fun of me.

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Where was he until then?

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He was in an orphanage for 13 months.

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But we haven't been able to find out
where he was before then.

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How he got there or...

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- Are you going to have kids?
- [LAUGHS] No.

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At least not yet.

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We tried several times,
but then we decided to adopt.

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I always thought it was such
a beautiful way to help a child.

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I never thought of it like that.

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If I have to be completely honest,
I did it for my own sake.

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Can't it be both?

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Sometimes I wonder
if I'm doing it well enough

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or if it would have been better for him

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to have gone to somebody else's home.

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I think he's very lucky to have you.

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I don't know.

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How do you tell?

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Sometimes I get up at night
and watch him sleeping.

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But I can't help but
wonder who he was...

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before we got him.

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What did he see or hear?

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Did anyone hold him when he cried?

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He's beautiful.

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I just wish I knew what went on
inside that little head of his.

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[TENCH] It's always the mother.

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They all have a crazy, angry mother.

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[HOLDEN] Or an absent father.

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Benjamin only changed
after his father took off.

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Maybe has nothing to
do with the mother.

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Aren't all fathers absent in some way?

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I know my old man was never around.

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Imagine how different Benjamin
and Rose's lives might have been

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- if their father never left.
- Not sure it would've changed much.

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Your father really didn't speak to you?

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No.

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But you speak with Brian.

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You want one more?

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- [DISTANT GUNFIRE]
- [BILL] Uh-huh.

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- You walk him through the crime scene?
- [OCASEK] Yeah.

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Okay. Has he seen all our notes
on the evidence?

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- Yeah, I showed him everything.
- [TENCH] And?

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He is going to try Benjamin first.

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Wait a minute. Say that again.

247
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He's only gonna try Benjamin,
not all three.

248
00:14:54,357 --> 00:14:56,357
- [TENCH] Mark, that's not right.
- Is that Ocasek?

249
00:14:56,381 --> 00:14:58,277
He's confident
after he convicts Benjamin...

250
00:14:58,361 --> 00:15:00,655
Obviously, there's something
he doesn't understand.

251
00:15:00,738 --> 00:15:02,782
Well, I tried to explain
exactly like you said,

252
00:15:02,865 --> 00:15:04,367
but he wasn't interested in talking.

253
00:15:04,450 --> 00:15:06,369
- Okay, look, I'll call you back.
- I'm sorry.

254
00:15:06,452 --> 00:15:07,745
Shit, it's not your fault, Mark.

255
00:15:07,829 --> 00:15:10,123
Let me talk to some folks here
and get back to you.

256
00:15:10,206 --> 00:15:11,999
- Okay.
- What's happening?

257
00:15:12,083 --> 00:15:13,835
The DA is going after Benjamin first,

258
00:15:13,918 --> 00:15:16,087
which means
he'll end up offering a plea deal

259
00:15:16,170 --> 00:15:17,630
for Frank's and Rose's testimony.

260
00:15:17,713 --> 00:15:20,258
Did Ocasek tell him
about Frank's history of violence?

261
00:15:20,341 --> 00:15:21,717
[TENCH] I'm sure he did.

262
00:15:21,801 --> 00:15:23,803
Clearly, he's the most dangerous
of the three.

263
00:15:23,886 --> 00:15:26,764
[TENCH] We need to go talk to the DA,
help him understand.

264
00:15:26,848 --> 00:15:28,307
I have a deposition this afternoon.

265
00:15:28,391 --> 00:15:30,351
- I can't do anything till tomorrow.
- I'll go.

266
00:15:32,186 --> 00:15:33,521
You better go with him.

267
00:15:40,695 --> 00:15:43,156
[CARR] It is acutely obvious
that, in this instance,

268
00:15:43,239 --> 00:15:45,992
the anger was triggered by stressors

269
00:15:46,075 --> 00:15:48,578
that were focused on his fiancé
in particular.

270
00:15:48,661 --> 00:15:49,662
"Stressors"?

271
00:15:49,745 --> 00:15:52,457
Dramatic life events.
Things that pushed both their buttons.

272
00:15:52,540 --> 00:15:55,168
Frank Janderman was happily married
with a new baby on the way.

273
00:15:55,251 --> 00:15:58,087
[CARR] But Frank didn't want
to be a father. He hated that.

274
00:15:58,171 --> 00:16:01,382
- Is that a motive?
- No. It's what we call a stressor.

275
00:16:02,216 --> 00:16:03,593
So you think Frank did it?

276
00:16:03,676 --> 00:16:05,887
[CARR] Benjamin wouldn't have
been able to on his own.

277
00:16:05,970 --> 00:16:07,889
You're saying Benjamin was provoked
by Frank?

278
00:16:07,972 --> 00:16:09,515
Pushed. Yes.

279
00:16:09,599 --> 00:16:12,727
Frank saw his chance
and raped Beverly Jean.

280
00:16:12,810 --> 00:16:14,150
Situationally motivated

281
00:16:14,175 --> 00:16:15,245
- sexual assaults...
- Wait.

282
00:16:15,270 --> 00:16:17,648
- "Situationally"?
- As opposed to preferential, yes.

283
00:16:17,732 --> 00:16:20,401
Well, look it. Here's my question.

284
00:16:21,527 --> 00:16:22,528
Who killed her?

285
00:16:22,612 --> 00:16:24,614
All three of them are responsible
for her death.

286
00:16:24,697 --> 00:16:27,257
- So they all mutilated the body?
- [CARR] No, that was Benjamin.

287
00:16:27,325 --> 00:16:30,369
Frank and Benjamin left her body
at the dump, wrapped up.

288
00:16:30,453 --> 00:16:33,498
But Benjamin came back a few days later.
He couldn't let go.

289
00:16:33,581 --> 00:16:36,221
Remember, he was under a lot of stress.
He took the knife to her...

290
00:16:36,292 --> 00:16:39,837
Let me stop you there, because...
here's the problem.

291
00:16:39,921 --> 00:16:41,130
How do I prove all this?

292
00:16:41,214 --> 00:16:44,550
I'm just here to provide you
with intelligent, accurate analysis.

293
00:16:44,634 --> 00:16:46,360
If a jury can't
understand your analysis,

294
00:16:46,385 --> 00:16:47,953
then it's no use to anybody, is it?

295
00:16:48,012 --> 00:16:51,307
I agree. But it isn't my job
to make the jury understand anything.

296
00:16:51,390 --> 00:16:52,308
That's your job.

297
00:16:52,391 --> 00:16:54,685
And we have all placed our trust in you.

298
00:17:00,483 --> 00:17:02,527
[CARR] How do we translate this
so you can use it?

299
00:17:02,610 --> 00:17:06,113
What you're saying is that both Benjamin
and Frank killed her, right?

300
00:17:06,197 --> 00:17:07,573
[CARR] It's complicated, I know.

301
00:17:07,657 --> 00:17:11,285
Benjamin knocked her out
because he felt like he was rejected,

302
00:17:11,369 --> 00:17:12,662
which is a stressor.

303
00:17:12,745 --> 00:17:14,914
He tied her up
and called his brother-in-law Frank

304
00:17:14,997 --> 00:17:16,357
because he didn't know what to do.

305
00:17:16,415 --> 00:17:17,669
So Frank comes over,

306
00:17:17,694 --> 00:17:20,026
and takes advantage of the
situation and rapes her.

307
00:17:20,586 --> 00:17:24,006
Benjamin doesn't stop him
because he wants to see her humiliated.

308
00:17:24,090 --> 00:17:26,133
Now Frank knows that he's in trouble,

309
00:17:26,217 --> 00:17:28,928
so he starts telling Benjamin
what a slut she is.

310
00:17:29,011 --> 00:17:31,472
And that is a big problem for Benjamin.

311
00:17:31,973 --> 00:17:33,015
So they kill her.

312
00:17:33,099 --> 00:17:35,810
Then they call Rose,
have her come and help clean up.

313
00:17:35,847 --> 00:17:37,953
And she sees the poor
girl in the bathtub

314
00:17:38,068 --> 00:17:40,066
and realizes that she's still alive.

315
00:17:40,356 --> 00:17:41,649
So they stab her again.

316
00:17:42,233 --> 00:17:44,193
And then they move the body to the dump.

317
00:17:47,613 --> 00:17:48,656
Okay.

318
00:17:50,658 --> 00:17:51,784
Okay.

319
00:17:52,743 --> 00:17:54,537
- That went well.
- You think?

320
00:17:56,581 --> 00:17:59,792
Sure, I mean...
what don't you think he grasped?

321
00:18:00,710 --> 00:18:03,337
Well, I mean, Holden,
you know these people. I don't.

322
00:18:03,713 --> 00:18:06,215
I think that he seemed very intent
on blaming Benjamin,

323
00:18:06,299 --> 00:18:08,342
and I'm not quite sure
I got him over that.

324
00:18:09,677 --> 00:18:12,221
Well, certainly at the end,
he seemed very attentive.

325
00:18:13,055 --> 00:18:15,808
I thought you laid it out clearly
and concisely for him

326
00:18:15,891 --> 00:18:17,101
that it was all three.

327
00:18:17,184 --> 00:18:19,020
Well, if you're right,
then we should be fine.

328
00:18:19,103 --> 00:18:20,521
Yes, we should be.

329
00:18:26,694 --> 00:18:28,738
- How's commuting?
- What do you mean?

330
00:18:28,821 --> 00:18:30,615
Having half of your life in Boston.

331
00:18:31,782 --> 00:18:32,783
What?

332
00:18:34,702 --> 00:18:36,287
Is the back and forth a strain?

333
00:18:36,370 --> 00:18:38,998
I know that it was discombobulating
for me, all the travel,

334
00:18:39,081 --> 00:18:41,167
when we were straddling Road School.

335
00:18:43,711 --> 00:18:46,130
Is small talk a way
you deal with your anxiety?

336
00:18:48,299 --> 00:18:50,343
- I suppose.
- Hm.

337
00:18:53,095 --> 00:18:54,138
Okay.

338
00:18:56,849 --> 00:18:58,726
[FLEETWOOD MAC'S "ALBATROSS" PLAYING]

339
00:19:42,103 --> 00:19:43,771
[BELL TOLLING]

340
00:20:01,122 --> 00:20:02,456
- Hey.
- Hey.

341
00:20:03,332 --> 00:20:04,667
Thought you were back tomorrow.

342
00:20:04,750 --> 00:20:06,836
- Was. Plans changed.
- Oh.

343
00:20:06,919 --> 00:20:08,212
We talked about that.

344
00:20:08,295 --> 00:20:11,298
Sorry, but I'm so glad
you're home early.

345
00:20:11,382 --> 00:20:12,758
[EXHALES SOFTLY]

346
00:20:14,343 --> 00:20:15,386
Hi.

347
00:20:20,474 --> 00:20:21,767
You look tired.

348
00:20:22,893 --> 00:20:26,021
I mean, you look great,
but also a little tired.

349
00:20:26,605 --> 00:20:28,981
Thanks. I, uh... I'm okay.

350
00:20:29,108 --> 00:20:30,488
If you want to go home, freshen up,

351
00:20:30,513 --> 00:20:32,249
I've got some things to finish here.

352
00:20:33,529 --> 00:20:35,030
Oh, yeah. Okay.

353
00:20:37,032 --> 00:20:39,577
You know, I actually wanted
to talk something over with you.

354
00:20:39,660 --> 00:20:41,454
It'd be great if we
could do that tonight.

355
00:20:41,537 --> 00:20:43,080
- What is it?
- Oh.

356
00:20:43,164 --> 00:20:44,957
You know, it's fine. It can wait.

357
00:20:45,541 --> 00:20:48,127
No. No, come on.

358
00:20:48,210 --> 00:20:50,254
I don't think he tried to understand.

359
00:20:50,337 --> 00:20:53,215
He just wanted some buzzwords
that he could parrot.

360
00:20:53,632 --> 00:20:56,552
Intellectually, these people
have reached their limits.

361
00:20:56,635 --> 00:20:59,035
They will never understand the discourse
on any deeper level,

362
00:20:59,059 --> 00:21:01,557
nor will they ever become conversant
in your vernacular.

363
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,642
I actually think they're
quite intuitive.

364
00:21:04,518 --> 00:21:06,187
I'm not talking about my colleagues.

365
00:21:06,270 --> 00:21:07,438
Your colleagues?

366
00:21:07,938 --> 00:21:10,691
- Are you an FBI agent?
- [SCOFFS] Don't be absurd.

367
00:21:12,818 --> 00:21:15,070
But that is what I wanted to discuss.

368
00:21:15,427 --> 00:21:18,067
I'm having a really hard time juggling

369
00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:20,314
my research and everything back here.

370
00:21:20,379 --> 00:21:21,672
I warned you this would happen.

371
00:21:23,537 --> 00:21:26,749
Well, I'm torn. And I'm not really
delivering either place.

372
00:21:26,832 --> 00:21:29,543
And I should be spending more time
at Quantico.

373
00:21:29,627 --> 00:21:31,670
I think that's a bad idea.

374
00:21:35,966 --> 00:21:38,761
- But you know best.
- Well, I'm not sure I do or...

375
00:21:38,844 --> 00:21:40,554
It's why I wanted to talk it over.

376
00:21:41,764 --> 00:21:45,684
I don't have to remind you.
Your review is in three months.

377
00:21:46,936 --> 00:21:49,104
If you aren't tenured,
you'll leave the university.

378
00:21:49,188 --> 00:21:50,689
Yeah, you needn't remind me.

379
00:21:50,779 --> 00:21:52,494
It's no secret I find it difficult

380
00:21:52,519 --> 00:21:54,431
watching you waste
your time down there.

381
00:21:54,485 --> 00:21:55,611
Waste my time?

382
00:21:57,321 --> 00:21:59,031
Do you think that I'm wasting my time?

383
00:21:59,056 --> 00:22:00,639
Come on, I don't wanna
argue about this.

384
00:22:00,664 --> 00:22:02,039
Neither do I.

385
00:22:02,785 --> 00:22:05,579
Babe, focus on the thing
that will make your career.

386
00:22:05,663 --> 00:22:07,790
They've offered me a full-time position.

387
00:22:09,124 --> 00:22:10,167
And?

388
00:22:12,753 --> 00:22:14,088
You can't be serious.

389
00:22:14,171 --> 00:22:15,548
Why would you say that?

390
00:22:16,131 --> 00:22:17,919
[STAMMERS] I'm sure it's flattering,

391
00:22:17,944 --> 00:22:19,450
but honestly, you said it yourself,

392
00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:21,971
these people have reached
their intellectual limits.

393
00:22:22,054 --> 00:22:23,472
No, I didn't say that.

394
00:22:26,642 --> 00:22:28,060
Do they know you're lesbian?

395
00:22:29,186 --> 00:22:32,356
- Of course not.
- Exactly. You can't be yourself.

396
00:22:33,357 --> 00:22:35,985
Are you really going to hide
half of your life?

397
00:22:36,068 --> 00:22:38,070
- I do that here.
- What do you mean by that?

398
00:22:38,153 --> 00:22:40,406
I can't tell any of your friends
I work with the FBI

399
00:22:40,489 --> 00:22:43,367
- because it could reflect badly on you.
- Let's not.

400
00:22:46,620 --> 00:22:50,416
I told Will and Gore
I'd meet them for a glass of wine.

401
00:22:50,499 --> 00:22:51,542
Please.

402
00:22:53,043 --> 00:22:54,044
Come with me.

403
00:22:55,129 --> 00:22:56,130
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]

404
00:22:56,213 --> 00:22:58,424
[MAN] In society,
everyone behaves in certain ways

405
00:22:58,507 --> 00:23:02,428
in order to avoid embarrassment,
either for ourselves or others.

406
00:23:02,511 --> 00:23:06,807
The very idea of embarrassing oneself,
or others,

407
00:23:06,890 --> 00:23:09,852
by being oneself
speaks to a deeper treachery.

408
00:23:09,935 --> 00:23:11,353
Treachery!

409
00:23:11,437 --> 00:23:13,022
Goffman saw a connection

410
00:23:13,105 --> 00:23:15,593
between the kinds of acts or masks

411
00:23:15,618 --> 00:23:17,691
that people put on in their daily lives

412
00:23:17,716 --> 00:23:20,093
and in theatrical performances.

413
00:23:20,279 --> 00:23:23,032
In a social interaction,
as in a theatrical performance,

414
00:23:23,115 --> 00:23:24,823
there's an onstage area where

415
00:23:24,848 --> 00:23:26,976
individuals, or actors
as the case may be,

416
00:23:27,036 --> 00:23:28,954
appear before the audience.

417
00:23:29,038 --> 00:23:31,248
But there must be a backstage,

418
00:23:31,332 --> 00:23:34,835
a hidden, private area, where
individuals can truly be themselves.

419
00:23:34,918 --> 00:23:37,713
Of course, Annaliese, that's lovely,
but you're missing the point.

420
00:23:37,796 --> 00:23:39,673
- Excuse me.
- [MAN 2] There's no embarrassment

421
00:23:39,757 --> 00:23:42,343
for anyone in their hidden
and private places.

422
00:23:42,426 --> 00:23:44,678
It's not backstage
where the damage is done.

423
00:23:44,762 --> 00:23:47,931
[MAN] Must we indulge in your melodrama?

424
00:24:06,075 --> 00:24:07,242
What the fuck happened, Mark?

425
00:24:07,326 --> 00:24:09,453
- You guys might be too late.
- Is he in there?

426
00:24:09,536 --> 00:24:11,163
- Yeah.
- Let's go talk to him.

427
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:13,290
I know you came a long way...

428
00:24:13,374 --> 00:24:15,417
Who doesn't like
a four-hour drive in winter?

429
00:24:15,501 --> 00:24:17,261
- [OCASEK] It's done.
- [TENCH] It ain't over

430
00:24:17,294 --> 00:24:18,420
till the fat lady sings.

431
00:24:23,384 --> 00:24:24,718
You offered him a plea bargain?

432
00:24:24,802 --> 00:24:27,012
He just pled guilty
to third-degree murder.

433
00:24:27,471 --> 00:24:30,766
And he is now facing five to 20 years
in a state psychiatric hospital.

434
00:24:30,849 --> 00:24:33,894
- You've misunderstood.
- Look. You did a great job.

435
00:24:34,436 --> 00:24:35,771
And you almost got it right.

436
00:24:35,854 --> 00:24:37,773
But it was never Frank,
it was all Benjamin.

437
00:24:37,856 --> 00:24:39,149
You know that's not true.

438
00:24:40,067 --> 00:24:42,736
You had an expert in psychopathy
and sexual homicide

439
00:24:42,820 --> 00:24:44,947
from Boston University
make a recommendation

440
00:24:45,030 --> 00:24:47,658
that Frank motivated Benjamin
to commit murder and...

441
00:24:47,741 --> 00:24:49,493
She said he pushed his buttons.

442
00:24:49,576 --> 00:24:51,662
[DA] And Benjamin came back
and disfigured the body.

443
00:24:51,745 --> 00:24:52,996
Well, guess what?

444
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,331
Frank confirmed all that.

445
00:24:54,415 --> 00:24:58,544
But Dr. Carr got one thing wrong.
Frank didn't rape her. Benjamin did.

446
00:24:58,627 --> 00:25:00,671
The victim was already dead
when Frank got there.

447
00:25:00,754 --> 00:25:03,006
- Hold on.
- She said Benjamin was jealous,

448
00:25:03,090 --> 00:25:05,050
sexually frustrated, humiliated.

449
00:25:05,134 --> 00:25:06,009
That's a motive.

450
00:25:06,093 --> 00:25:08,013
- You got it all wrong.
- I have the report here.

451
00:25:08,053 --> 00:25:10,723
I've read the report.
It points in the opposite direction.

452
00:25:10,806 --> 00:25:13,559
Benjamin was impotent
because of the stressors.

453
00:25:13,648 --> 00:25:15,437
He was frustrated and humiliated.

454
00:25:15,462 --> 00:25:17,050
It was impossible for
him to rape the victim.

455
00:25:17,104 --> 00:25:19,064
I understand the righteousness
of your cause,

456
00:25:19,648 --> 00:25:22,651
but this is an exceptionally difficult
and disturbing case.

457
00:25:22,735 --> 00:25:24,708
There's very little forensic evidence.

458
00:25:24,774 --> 00:25:26,637
Almost all the evidence
is circumstantial.

459
00:25:26,697 --> 00:25:28,907
You classify our evidence
as circumstantial?

460
00:25:30,117 --> 00:25:31,117
[SIGHS]

461
00:25:31,201 --> 00:25:33,704
Frank told us where to find
the victim's breasts.

462
00:25:34,329 --> 00:25:35,998
- Benjamin had kept them.
- [HOLDEN] So?

463
00:25:36,081 --> 00:25:38,584
So, I got a guy who's jealous,
sexually frustrated,

464
00:25:38,667 --> 00:25:41,754
and we find the victim's breasts
buried in his backyard.

465
00:25:42,212 --> 00:25:44,506
Then I got a guy who's willing
to tell us what happened.

466
00:25:44,590 --> 00:25:46,510
There's a huge difference
between killing a woman

467
00:25:46,534 --> 00:25:48,427
and mutilating her body
after she is dead.

468
00:25:48,510 --> 00:25:51,889
A plea bargain is the only antidote
against a failed prosecution.

469
00:25:51,972 --> 00:25:53,640
[TENCH] You're letting Frank off.

470
00:25:53,724 --> 00:25:56,084
He shouldn't just go
to a mental institution for five years.

471
00:25:56,143 --> 00:25:59,104
- He should be put away for life.
- [DA] Five to 20 years.

472
00:25:59,188 --> 00:26:02,149
And the defense is arguing
the state had a duty of care

473
00:26:02,232 --> 00:26:03,942
the first time Frank
was in the hospital.

474
00:26:04,026 --> 00:26:06,153
The onus is on the state
to make him better.

475
00:26:06,236 --> 00:26:07,988
He's never going to get better.

476
00:26:08,739 --> 00:26:10,032
I have to make a phone call.

477
00:26:31,470 --> 00:26:33,950
[TENCH] He's letting the wrong guy off
with a lighter sentence.

478
00:26:33,974 --> 00:26:36,894
When Wendy explained it to him,
he seemed to understand.

479
00:26:38,018 --> 00:26:40,270
I think he wasn't sure
he could convince a jury.

480
00:26:41,855 --> 00:26:43,649
- This way it's airtight.
- He didn't try.

481
00:26:48,570 --> 00:26:49,988
No hard feelings, okay?

482
00:26:50,405 --> 00:26:52,366
I know the outcome
wasn't what you wanted.

483
00:26:52,449 --> 00:26:55,828
All three behind bars,
and Benjamin'll fry for what he did.

484
00:26:55,911 --> 00:26:59,998
Not all bad.
You know what we're up against.

485
00:27:00,791 --> 00:27:03,710
We have to consider the attention span
of a prospective jury pool.

486
00:27:03,794 --> 00:27:05,170
Need to keep them in mind.

487
00:27:05,671 --> 00:27:09,132
Our objective is the lowest cost
for the highest quality of justice.

488
00:27:09,216 --> 00:27:10,384
You know this is bullshit.

489
00:27:12,219 --> 00:27:13,554
Let me get you a steak sandwich.

490
00:27:13,637 --> 00:27:15,556
Outside of KC,
it's the best I've come across.

491
00:27:15,639 --> 00:27:17,850
- No, thanks.
- I've lost my appetite.

492
00:27:17,933 --> 00:27:19,393
We need to hit the road.

493
00:27:20,143 --> 00:27:22,896
Okay. Thank you for everything.

494
00:27:34,408 --> 00:27:36,034
What difference does any of this make

495
00:27:36,118 --> 00:27:38,662
if we can't communicate it
to the people who matter?

496
00:27:40,330 --> 00:27:41,498
I don't know.

497
00:27:59,558 --> 00:28:01,059
[CARR] It's all about process now.

498
00:28:01,143 --> 00:28:05,022
Refining our methodology, making sure
we're airtight and idiot-proof.

499
00:28:05,105 --> 00:28:06,231
So we need more subjects.

500
00:28:06,315 --> 00:28:08,609
- Ones just like Kemper, please.
- Those were the days.

501
00:28:09,568 --> 00:28:12,362
You know, you're going to see people
present with similar pathologies,

502
00:28:12,446 --> 00:28:14,114
but the way a person kills

503
00:28:14,197 --> 00:28:17,242
is as individual and distinct
as the way they have sex.

504
00:28:17,326 --> 00:28:18,744
And just as complicated.

505
00:28:19,369 --> 00:28:22,372
Jerome Brudos. King of souvenirs.

506
00:28:22,456 --> 00:28:24,458
- Brudos? The shoe guy?
- [HOLDEN] Who's he?

507
00:28:24,541 --> 00:28:28,170
Six, seven years ago.
Sometimes he wore women's dresses.

508
00:28:28,253 --> 00:28:30,733
[CARR] He amputated the breasts
of his first and third victims.

509
00:28:31,089 --> 00:28:34,009
- Just like Benjamin.
- It's themed. Wendy loves a pattern.

510
00:28:34,092 --> 00:28:36,053
It's all about finding patterns.

511
00:28:36,136 --> 00:28:38,138
Except he went a little further
than Benjamin.

512
00:28:38,222 --> 00:28:41,433
He plaster cast the breasts
and made them into bronze paperweights.

513
00:28:41,516 --> 00:28:42,517
He's creative.

514
00:28:42,601 --> 00:28:44,589
[CARR] His second victim,
he amputated a foot

515
00:28:44,614 --> 00:28:45,753
which he stored in his freezer.

516
00:28:45,812 --> 00:28:47,773
He had a collection
of hundreds of women's shoes

517
00:28:47,856 --> 00:28:49,650
which he used for masturbation.

518
00:28:49,733 --> 00:28:51,892
I think we can learn
a lot from this guy.

519
00:28:51,917 --> 00:28:53,253
I'm in.

520
00:28:53,904 --> 00:28:55,864
This time we use the questionnaire.

521
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,760
Did we settle on that?

522
00:28:58,784 --> 00:29:00,412
We have to be able to distinguish

523
00:29:00,437 --> 00:29:02,019
the fractal similarities
and differences

524
00:29:02,079 --> 00:29:03,747
so that we can codify it clearly.

525
00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:05,707
Otherwise, we're just wasting our time.

526
00:29:05,791 --> 00:29:07,751
Sure, but sometimes
you got to go with your gut.

527
00:29:07,834 --> 00:29:10,462
And when you first walk in,
you can trust your instinct.

528
00:29:10,545 --> 00:29:12,339
But once you get your subject talking,

529
00:29:12,422 --> 00:29:15,676
we need the protocols
so we can build a consistent data set.

530
00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:18,220
- Makes sense.
- What else do we know about Brudos?

531
00:29:18,303 --> 00:29:21,348
[CARR] As a teenager, he started
grabbing lingerie from clotheslines.

532
00:29:21,431 --> 00:29:22,711
Soon he was breaking into homes,

533
00:29:22,735 --> 00:29:25,310
stealing women's underwear,
shoes, and dresses.

534
00:29:25,394 --> 00:29:28,313
And then eventually, he escalated
to kidnapping and murder.

535
00:29:28,397 --> 00:29:30,315
But he was married with two children
by then.

536
00:29:30,399 --> 00:29:32,651
This file is as thick
as an encyclopedia.

537
00:29:32,734 --> 00:29:35,153
You think we're gonna get something
that isn't in here?

538
00:29:35,237 --> 00:29:36,446
Absolutely.

539
00:29:36,530 --> 00:29:39,074
In all that paperwork,
there's not a single word

540
00:29:39,157 --> 00:29:41,077
that illuminates
what he was thinking or feeling,

541
00:29:41,101 --> 00:29:43,161
before, during, or after the crimes.

542
00:29:43,245 --> 00:29:45,747
There's nothing
on his operation principles, his logic.

543
00:29:45,831 --> 00:29:47,958
- Logic?
- [CARR] His internal logic, yes.

544
00:29:48,041 --> 00:29:50,460
Which, hopefully, one day
we'll be able to decipher.

545
00:29:52,129 --> 00:29:54,798
So, we all agreed. Brudos is next.

546
00:29:54,881 --> 00:29:55,881
Yes.

547
00:29:56,633 --> 00:29:58,343
Do you mind if I take that room?

548
00:29:59,219 --> 00:30:01,430
- For what?
- For my office.

549
00:30:01,930 --> 00:30:03,265
[TENCH] Oh, sure, fine. Go ahead.

550
00:30:04,683 --> 00:30:06,476
- [HOLDEN] Do you need help?
- No.

551
00:30:06,935 --> 00:30:09,688
I actually enjoy this part,
organizing my space.

552
00:30:11,606 --> 00:30:12,691
She's staying.

553
00:30:13,150 --> 00:30:14,484
Carver was right.

554
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,487
You really are Sherlock Holmes.

555
00:30:32,377 --> 00:30:35,881
It's one generous bedroom
and a newly refurbished kitchenette.

556
00:30:35,964 --> 00:30:37,257
The building's very quiet.

557
00:30:37,341 --> 00:30:39,885
Mostly professionals
and mostly travelers.

558
00:30:39,968 --> 00:30:43,597
Flight attendants, a few pilots.
We get the odd lecturer.

559
00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:45,389
Are you married?

560
00:30:45,932 --> 00:30:46,932
No.

561
00:30:46,975 --> 00:30:48,769
Were you thinking month-to-month?

562
00:30:48,852 --> 00:30:49,978
To begin with.

563
00:30:50,896 --> 00:30:52,189
- Are they all furnished?
- Yes.

564
00:30:52,272 --> 00:30:54,483
And that's definitely part
of the complex's allure.

565
00:30:54,566 --> 00:30:56,735
Just pick up your keys and off you go.

566
00:30:58,612 --> 00:31:00,640
We do have some singles activities,

567
00:31:00,665 --> 00:31:02,473
if you're up for that sort of thing.

568
00:31:02,991 --> 00:31:05,327
And there's access
to quite a good tennis pro.

569
00:31:05,410 --> 00:31:07,162
I'm going to be working long hours.

570
00:31:08,413 --> 00:31:10,239
What made you choose
this part of Virginia,

571
00:31:10,264 --> 00:31:11,765
if you don't mind my asking?

572
00:31:12,292 --> 00:31:14,586
- Quantico.
- Oh!

573
00:31:15,629 --> 00:31:17,089
Are you with the Bureau?

574
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,134
I guess... uh, mainly research.

575
00:31:21,218 --> 00:31:22,928
Oh. Very exciting.

576
00:31:23,011 --> 00:31:25,011
[THE BOOMTOWN RATS'
"I DON'T LIKE MONDAYS" PLAYING]

577
00:31:25,035 --> 00:31:30,749
♪ The silicon chip inside her head ♪
♪ Gets switched to overload ♪

578
00:31:31,603 --> 00:31:34,585
♪ And nobody's gonna
go to school today ♪

579
00:31:34,610 --> 00:31:37,591
♪ She's going to make
them stay at home ♪

580
00:31:38,318 --> 00:31:40,821
♪ And Daddy doesn't understand it ♪

581
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:44,616
♪ He always said she
was as good as gold ♪

582
00:31:44,699 --> 00:31:48,328
♪ And he can see no reasons ♪
♪ 'Cause there are no reasons ♪

583
00:31:48,412 --> 00:31:53,583
♪ What reason do you need to be sure? ♪
♪ Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa ♪

584
00:31:53,667 --> 00:31:57,087
♪ Tell me why ♪
♪ I don't like Mondays ♪

585
00:31:57,170 --> 00:32:00,507
♪ Tell me why ♪
♪ I don't like Mondays ♪

586
00:32:00,590 --> 00:32:03,760
♪ Tell me why ♪
♪ I don't like Mondays ♪

587
00:32:03,844 --> 00:32:09,683
♪ I want to shoot ♪

588
00:32:09,766 --> 00:32:15,063
♪ The whole day down, down, down ♪
♪ Shoot it all down ♪

589
00:32:15,263 --> 00:32:20,263
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590
00:32:30,245 --> 00:32:33,748
♪ And all the playing's stopped ♪
♪ In the playground now ♪

591
00:32:33,957 --> 00:32:36,668
♪ She wants to play ♪
♪ With her toys awhile ♪

592
00:32:37,127 --> 00:32:40,213
♪ And school's out early ♪
♪ And soon we'll be learning ♪

593
00:32:40,297 --> 00:32:43,550
♪ And the lesson today is how to die ♪

594
00:32:43,842 --> 00:32:48,054
♪ And then the bullhorn crackles ♪
♪ And the captain tackles ♪

595
00:32:48,138 --> 00:32:50,640
♪ With the problems ♪
♪ And the hows and whys ♪

596
00:32:51,516 --> 00:32:55,437
♪ And he can see no reasons ♪
♪ 'Cause there are no reasons ♪

597
00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:01,193
♪ What reason do you need to die, die? ♪
♪ Oh-ho-ho ♪

598
00:33:01,276 --> 00:33:04,571
♪ Tell me why ♪
♪ I don't like Mondays ♪

599
00:33:04,654 --> 00:33:07,741
♪ Tell me why ♪
♪ I don't like Mondays ♪

600
00:33:07,824 --> 00:33:11,119
♪ Tell me why ♪
♪ I don't like Mondays ♪

601
00:33:11,203 --> 00:33:14,414
♪ Tell me why ♪
♪ I don't like Mondays ♪

602
00:33:14,498 --> 00:33:17,626
♪ Tell me why ♪
♪ I don't like Mondays ♪

603
00:33:17,709 --> 00:33:23,798
♪ I want to shoot ♪

604
00:33:24,090 --> 00:33:27,969
♪ The whole day down ♪

605
00:33:29,095 --> 00:33:32,849
♪ Ooh-ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh-ooh ♪

606
00:33:32,933 --> 00:33:36,561
♪ Ooh-ooh-ooh, ooh ♪