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All right, let's chop and load.
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It was the third of June
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Another sleepy, dusty delta day
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I was out choppin' cotton
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And my brother was balin' hay
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And at dinner time we stopped
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And walked back to the house to eat
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And mama hollered out the back door
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Y'all, remember to...
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Good evening, Officer.
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Y'all need my license or anything, huh?
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No, that's not necessary.
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That's a sharp-looking truck you got.
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Yes, sir. Thank you.
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Those rims look like
they cost you a pretty penny.
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Who you been working for?
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Oh, no, sir. I don't work for nobody.
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Got my own pulping business.
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You know,
I clear out all these trees around here.
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So, you ain't got no boss
to check in with, huh?
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That must be pretty nice.
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Free to run up and down the road
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wherever you want to,
whenever you want to
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in this fancy truck.
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Hey, well, not if my wife
got something to say about it.
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Yeah.
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I heard that ain't stopped you
before, though.
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Ain't that right, Johnny D.?
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You want to make a break for it? Hmm?
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No, sir, I don't wanna do nothing...
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'Cause after what you done...
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I'm looking for any excuse
to get this over with
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right here, right now.
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Sir, I ain't did nothing and I think
y'all got the wrong person here.
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Y'all got me confused with somebody.
And I think...
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I ain't got you confused with nobody.
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I don't have a thing to do with this.
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Sir, you got me confused with somebody.
I ain't did nothing wrong.
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We all know Monroeville
as the peaceful town
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where Harper Lee wrote
To Kill a Mockingbird.
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Last year, that peace was shattered
by a brutal crime.
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On the 1st of November,
18-year-old Ronda Morrison
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was found dead at Jackson Cleaners.
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Morrison had been strangled and shot
by Walter McMillian,
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known locally as Johnny D.
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McMillian was convicted by a jury
who recommended a life sentence.
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But today, Judge Robert E. Lee Key
overrode their decision
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and sentenced McMillian to death.
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We promised the community
that we would find him, and we did.
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You commit a crime like this in my town,
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one way or another,
you're gonna pay for it.
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As McMillian awaits execution
at Holman Correctional Facility,
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a grieving community
can take some solace
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in knowing that, today,
justice has finally been served.
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Thank you.
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You got one hour.
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Um...
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Hi, Mr. Davis. I'm Bryan.
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Henry.
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Um...
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The Southern Prisoners
Defense Committee,
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they sent me here to tell you that...
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That they don't have
a lawyer for you yet,
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- but they hope to soon.
- You're not a lawyer?
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No. I'm still in school.
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Just interning here for the summer.
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So, you can't tell me nothing
about my case?
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I mean, I was supposed to tell you...
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that you're not at risk of execution
any time within the next year.
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Can you say that again?
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That you're not at risk of execution
any time within the next year?
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That's the best news
I've heard in a long time.
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I didn't want my wife or kids...
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showing up
if I had an execution date coming.
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Now they can come visit.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Serious.
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My mom made me join our church choir
when I was, like, four.
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I sang lead baritone
all through high school.
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I played piano at my church growing up.
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AME?
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God is good...
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...all the time.
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All the time.
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A couple AME Choir boys
hanging on death row.
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My mom would go trip.
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Man, that's crazy.
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What school are you going to?
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I'm at Harvard.
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Seriously? You're going to Harvard?
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That's white-boy status, bro.
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What the hell are you doing
slumming it up in here for?
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I'm in law school
because I just wanted to help people.
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Just haven't figured out
the best way to do that yet.
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Honestly, this internship
has been the best experience so far.
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Working on death row
has been your best experience?
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You need to get out
more, bro.
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Should've been done two hours ago.
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- I'm sorry, I didn't realize.
- Supposed to watch the clock.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, hey, hey. Sir!
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Calm down, he didn't do anything!
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You need to shut your mouth.
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It's okay, Bryan.
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Don't worry about me.
You just come back.
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I'm pressing on
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The upward way
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New heights I'm gaining every day
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Still praying as
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I'm onward bound
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Lord, plant my feet
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On higher ground
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- Mom still mad at you?
- For what?
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I don't know.
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Maybe for rejecting all those job offers
so you can be poor in Alabama.
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And Howie telling her about
that lynching in Mobile didn't help.
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- What?
- I said it happened seven years ago.
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Yeah, that made it better.
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You two were supposed to be on my side.
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Pop, how are we looking up there?
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Just added three quarts of oil.
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But you should check it again
when you get there.
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All right, thanks.
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Talk to your mom yet?
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What did those leaves do to you?
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You're not gonna say bye to your son?
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I know you got your law degree now,
and you think you're grown,
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but you're still my child.
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And I'm the one who has to deal
with your funeral arrangements
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if you get killed down there.
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- Come on, Ma.
- You think this is funny?
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'Cause if you can't see the danger
in what you're doing,
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you need to ask Harvard
for your money back.
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You used to be smarter than that.
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The first time I visited death row,
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I wasn't expecting to meet somebody
the same age as me.
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Grew up on the same music.
From a neighborhood just like ours.
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Could've been me, Mama.
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I don't wanna move far away from you.
I love you.
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But you always taught me
to fight for the people
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who need the help the most.
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I am very proud of you, son.
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I know your heart's in the right place.
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But it's not that simple.
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What you're doing is gonna make
a lot of people upset.
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You better be careful.
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I will.
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I promise.
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There she goes.
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My line, your line
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Don't cross them lines
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What you like, what I like
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Why can't we both be right?
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Attacking, defending
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Until there's nothing left worth winning
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You gotta be kidding me.
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We had an agreement to rent this space
for two years.
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You said it was a done deal.
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That's before I knew
what you were doing here.
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We are giving poor people
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their constitutional right
to counsel, Bill.
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Do you mind explaining to my son
what you think is so wrong with that?
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Eva, what's up?
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Oh, Bryan. Thank God.
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This is the executive director
of our organization.
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He just got here and was expecting
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to move into the office
that you promised us.
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You said you were the director.
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Director of Operations.
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And you're making me look very bad
in front of my boss right now.
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She said you were a lawyer,
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but nobody told me
it was for murderers on death row.
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We're providing legal services
to people who need help.
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And they'll have to do it
someplace else.
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'Cause I can't have people like that
around here.
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Not everyone is in there
for a good reason, sir.
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Y'all have a good day now.
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What a piece of shit.
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I'm so sorry. This is not
how I wanted to welcome you here.
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I will find us an office,
I promise you I will.
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I just gotta change my tactics.
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It'll be fine.
We can work from anywhere.
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Yeah, we'll just have Kris
clean up his toys in the living room.
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- Right, Kris?
- Oh, yeah?
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I'll think about it.
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I'm sorry for cussing, baby.
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It's okay.
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He was a piece of shit, though.
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I was a psychology major writing a paper
on capital punishment
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when I met my first death row inmate,
Wayne Ritter.
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He and his friend robbed
a pawn shop in Mobile.
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His friend shot the owner
and they both got death.
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Is he the reason why you got into this?
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His attorney was openly in favor
of the death penalty.
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He thought mad dogs ought to die.
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A lot of the folks on death row
either had shitty representation
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or none at all. So, I just started
calling every law firm
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in the Yellow Pages, just trying
to find anybody that could help.
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I was averaging 20 rejections a day.
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She was pretty stressed out.
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I was just about to give up
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when I got a call from a Harvard lawyer
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saying that he had just passed
the Alabama Bar
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and had federal funding
to start a legal center
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for inmates on death row.
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I was in before
you even offered me the job.
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And before you knew
I couldn't pay you anything.
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What's that?
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Oh, yeah, Doug doesn't know
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about that part yet.
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- Sorry, honey.
- All right.
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How's it going, son? You seem tired.
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Okay. Let's go brush your teeth.
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Excuse us.
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I'll make up the couch for you, Bryan.
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I'm excited about what you're doing.
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Me, too.
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I should be in the log.
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I'm scheduled to see six clients today.
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Well, I ain't seen you before.
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That's because I just moved here.
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You really a lawyer?
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Yes. I am.
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Well, I'm gonna have to search you.
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Just go on in that room there
and take everything off.
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Attorneys aren't strip-searched
for legal visits.
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Well, you ain't gonna visit shit
unless you get in that room and strip.
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Let's go.
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Pants and underwear.
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Bend over and spread.
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You're clear.
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I fought in Nam.
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First Cavalry Division.
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Saw a lot of friends die.
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Doctor said I got PTSD.
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I did what they said I did. I...
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I put the bomb on her porch.
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I know it don't make sense...
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but I didn't mean to kill nobody.
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I think they're gonna
set my execution soon.
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Last lawyer said
there ain't nothing left to do.
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There's always something that we can do.
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Whatever you did,
your life is still meaningful.
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And I'm gonna do everything possible
to keep them from taking it.
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Now, tell me everything that happened.
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I was given a court-appointed lawyer,
and he was pretty pitiful.
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Never really talked to me about
setting up a defense.
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I probably met the dude three times.
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Literally.
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He told me that it would be
in my best interest
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to plead no contest
to all of those charges.
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I'm gonna plead not guilty.
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I said, "I didn't do it.
I didn't have nothing to do with that."
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"You're 20 right now,
if you take this plea
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and you do the whole time,
you'll only be 45 when you get out."
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In the middle of my trial,
which only lasted
257
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,552
45 minutes to a hour,
which is unheard of...
258
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,953
He wouldn't let me take the stand.
So, they ended up finding me guilty.
259
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,040
The judge laughed at me and said
rehabilitation was a 70-year-old joke.
260
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,150
My lawyer, he was there,
but he wasn't there.
261
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,313
It was like I was by myself.
262
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,795
Last lawyer I had,
sitting where you sit, said...
263
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,241
"Johnny D., don't worry about nothing,
everything gonna be all right."
264
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,557
Then they put that death sentence on me.
265
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,997
Family run out of money.
266
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,719
Money run out, he run out.
267
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,034
What you gonna do different?
268
00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:43,496
Well, the first thing we could do
is apply for a retrial.
269
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,477
I already did that. They denied it.
270
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,194
It's right there in your files.
271
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,914
Okay, then we can ask
for a reconsideration on that.
272
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,976
Then a direct appeal
to the Court of Criminal Appeals
273
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,435
and work our way up
to the State Supreme Court.
274
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,876
If we get denied there,
we could file a Rule 32.
275
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,360
Then a federal habeas petition.
276
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,216
And if all that fails, Mr. McMillian,
we could take your case
277
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,336
all the way to the Supreme Court.
278
00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:10,397
You don't know what you into
down here, do you?
279
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,000
You think all of them fancy words
280
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,037
gonna get you somewhere
around here in Alabama?
281
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,871
All they gonna do
is eat you alive and spit you out
282
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,158
just like every other black man they do,
when they step out of line.
283
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,072
You coming around here
with them fancy suits,
284
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,669
talking all white, these people
don't give a damn about that.
285
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,480
The only suit they wanna see a nigga in
is the suit I got on.
286
00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:35,016
Mr. McMillian,
I can see how that could be hard...
287
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,440
No, you don't!
288
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,633
No, you don't.
No, you don't. No, you don't.
289
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,399
You a rich boy from Harvard,
you don't know what it is down here.
290
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,516
When you're guilty
from the moment you born.
291
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,360
And you can buddy up with
these white folks and make them laugh
292
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,397
and try to make them like you,
whatever that is,
293
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,696
and you say, "Yes, sir. No, ma'am."
But when it's your turn,
294
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,313
they ain't got to have no fingerprints.
295
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:04,835
No evidence.
296
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,391
And the only witness they got
made the whole thing up.
297
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,836
Ain't none of that matter,
when all y'all think is
298
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,274
is I look like a man...
299
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,274
who could kill somebody.
300
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,439
But that's not what I think.
301
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,080
Mmm.
302
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,393
You know how many people have been freed
from Alabama death row?
303
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:39,796
None.
304
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,790
What make you think
you gonna change that?
305
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,634
I ain't doing this shit again.
306
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,799
- Guard.
- Mr. McMillian...
307
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,553
We done here.
308
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,199
Mr. McMillian, please.
309
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,436
I'm here to help.
310
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,080
- What's up, Johnny D.?
- Say hello!
311
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,953
How's it going, my brother?
312
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,190
How'd it go?
313
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,880
How you treating them needs,
motherfucker?
314
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,600
Johnny D.?
315
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,039
Johnny D., you there?
316
00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:46,236
'Sup, Herb?
317
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,676
Ray there?
318
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,430
Ray.
319
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,513
Unavailable at the moment.
320
00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:58,477
Where you at?
321
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,352
Buckingham Palace.
I'm having tea with the queen.
322
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,920
Huh.
323
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,152
She's a very nice lady.
I'll let you know when we done.
324
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:12,272
Hey, Johnny D.,
what you think of the lawyer?
325
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:14,349
I think he a kid.
326
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,634
Don't know what he's talking about.
327
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,075
Making all these promises
he ain't gonna be able to keep.
328
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,992
I... I thought he was nice.
329
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,274
Nice?
330
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,437
The hell you want a nice lawyer for?
331
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,317
Nice ain't gonna get you shit.
332
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,595
Look at Johnny D.
333
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,157
Nice as a puppy, yet he in here with us.
334
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,116
Well, I didn't know
you thought about me like that, Ray.
335
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,431
I mean, just you nice and everything...
336
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,796
You not as nice as La Toya Jackson,
337
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,395
but for a old man on the row,
you a'ight.
338
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,279
Hey, I thought you said
I was the old man.
339
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,195
Well, Johnny D. is old, Herb,
you more ancient.
340
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,518
Sorry to tell you.
341
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,949
Herb, turn that music up.
342
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,070
You got it.
343
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,515
All right. Here...
344
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,915
Bryan...
345
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,794
did you get any sleep?
346
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,194
I, uh...
347
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,034
I don't think McMillian did it.
348
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,637
The state based its entire case
on the testimony of one man.
349
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,154
Ralph Myers.
350
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,436
Myers spent most of his life
in and out of prison.
351
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,274
When he testified,
he was on trial for a different murder,
352
00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:47,920
which he ended up getting 30 years for.
353
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:49,760
Seems like a pretty good deal.
354
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,674
In his statement, he said that
Johnny D. approached him at a car wash
355
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,391
and forced him at gunpoint to drive to
Jackson Cleaners because his arm hurt.
356
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:58,880
That sounds logical.
357
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,976
When they get there, Johnny D.
tells him to wait in the truck
358
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,275
while he goes inside.
359
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:04,556
And while he's waiting
for his kidnapper,
360
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,597
he doesn't run,
he doesn't go to the police.
361
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,639
Instead, he drives to the liquor store
for cigarettes
362
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,473
and then comes back to the crime scene.
363
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,350
Excuse me?
364
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,591
Myers hears gunshots, goes inside
365
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,912
and sees the body of Ronda Morrison
lying on the ground, face up,
366
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,151
and Johnny D. standing over her
with a gun
367
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,358
with some older white guy
who he claimed was in charge.
368
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,672
- Anyone trying to look for him?
- Exactly.
369
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,432
Oh, wait. They have one other witness
to back his testimony.
370
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,432
A young black man named Bill Hooks.
371
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,318
Says he saw Johnny D.'s low-rider truck
372
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,790
leaving the cleaners
around the time of the murder.
373
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:38,880
And that's it.
374
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,640
That's all they have.
375
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,960
Hmm.
376
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,596
So, an 18-year-old white girl
is murdered in broad daylight
377
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,680
and the sheriff can't solve the crime
for how long?
378
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,154
Almost a year.
379
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,358
And then some other guy
who's charged with a different murder
380
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,160
says that he can tell them who did it
if he gets a lower sentence.
381
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,320
And the guy that he says did it
382
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,676
happens to be a black man
from a poor community
383
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,240
that no one would think twice about.
384
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,273
There's gotta be
more evidence than this.
385
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,678
I want to set a meeting with the DA.
386
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,314
Tommy Chapman just took over for Pearson
a few months ago.
387
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,474
He used to be a public defender.
388
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,112
Maybe he's not in line
with the rest of 'em.
389
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,112
You visit the Mockingbird Museum yet?
390
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,560
Uh, no, ma'am.
391
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,360
It's the old courthouse
Harper Lee's daddy used to work in.
392
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,675
You can stand right where
Atticus Finch once stood.
393
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,514
- Mr. Stevenson? I'm Tommy Chapman.
- Hey.
394
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,795
- You find us okay?
- I did.
395
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,434
- Good. Follow me.
- Yeah.
396
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,749
Thank you, Tracy.
397
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,839
A lot of people are very keen
to meet you, Mr. Stevenson.
398
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,718
- Oh, really?
- Well, you're a Harvard lawyer
399
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,519
who's moved to Alabama.
400
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,956
You know, you start taking on
all these capital cases,
401
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,999
people just wanna know
what your intentions are, I guess.
402
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,536
We're just trying
to give legal assistance
403
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,835
to people who can't afford it.
404
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,479
Well, legal assistance is one thing,
405
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,760
but trying to put convicted murderers
back on the street
406
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,200
is something else entirely.
407
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,416
Anyway, you didn't come
all the way down here
408
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,715
to talk about that.
409
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,200
What can I do for you today, Bryan?
410
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,240
I wanted to speak to you
about Johnny D. McMillian.
411
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,312
You know I wasn't part
of his prosecution, right?
412
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,800
That was way before my time.
413
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,111
And that's exactly
why I wanted to meet you.
414
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,336
You see, I've read through the record
quite a few times now
415
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,319
and I have some serious doubts
about the reliability of his conviction.
416
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,960
If you could take a look
at the sections I've highlighted here,
417
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,870
you'll see some problems
with Ralph Myers' testimony.
418
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,558
Man, this is one of
the most outrageous crimes
419
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,879
in Monroe County history.
420
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,072
Your client made
a lot of people very angry.
421
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,712
I understand that, but there are
some serious problems with this case.
422
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,553
And I was hoping
that I can get your support
423
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,279
to figure out what really happened.
424
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,880
I already know what happened.
425
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,109
Johnny D. McMillian
was convicted by a jury
426
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,113
of brutally murdering a teenage girl
in my community.
427
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,830
And it is my job to defend
the integrity of that conviction.
428
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,400
Even if that conviction
is based on false testimony?
429
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,711
You're the only one I know
who thinks that.
430
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,712
Then I must be the only one
who read that record
431
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,598
because it's pretty obvious.
432
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,199
That man caused a lot of pain.
433
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,079
A lot of pain for folks around here.
434
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,797
And if you go digging in those wounds...
435
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,356
you're gonna be making
a lot of people very unhappy.
436
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,351
Well, it isn't my job
to make people happy.
437
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,432
It's to achieve justice for my client.
438
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,356
Well...
439
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,280
Ralph Myers' two confessions
and a statement from Bill Hooks.
440
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,434
I asked for copies of all the police
and witness statements.
441
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,749
That's what you're holding.
442
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,593
This is a joke. Where's the rest of it?
443
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,876
That's what's relevant
to the McMillian case.
444
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,794
If you want more, you'll have to file
a discovery motion with the court
445
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,280
just like anybody else.
446
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,830
Thanks for coming by today,
Mr. Stevenson.
447
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,869
Expect that motion soon.
448
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,440
I'll look forward to it, Counselor.
449
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,435
You oughta check out
the Mockingbird Museum
450
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,670
on your way out of town.
451
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,835
It's one of the great civil rights
landmarks of the South.
452
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,394
Hmm.
453
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,715
Keep in line.
454
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,877
Helping a black man
convicted of killing a white girl
455
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,917
is political suicide in that county.
456
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,879
I'm sure he's being reminded of that
by whoever got him his job.
457
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,475
The way he was talking,
I don't even think he read the record.
458
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,994
That doesn't surprise me.
459
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,994
Hey, Kris, Bobby,
come on in and get your snack.
460
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,120
Okay.
461
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,920
I'm gonna stop by Jackson Cleaners
on my way to meet his family.
462
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,759
Okay. If I don't hear from you
by morning,
463
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,160
I'll send a rescue party.
464
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,720
I hope that's a joke.
465
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,075
Me, too.
466
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,398
But just be careful, okay?
467
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,510
That's him.
468
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,871
- You the lawyer?
- Yes, ma'am.
469
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,553
My name is Bryan Stevenson.
470
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,994
I'm Johnny D.'s wife, Minnie.
471
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,950
Pleasure to meet you.
472
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,714
Thank you so much
for driving all the way out here.
473
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,679
- Most lawyers barely make time to call.
- Hmm.
474
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,191
This is our younger son, John.
Our baby girl, Jackie.
475
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:16,710
I hope you don't mind,
476
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,634
a few of our neighbors stopped by
to hear what you got to say.
477
00:34:19,720 --> 00:34:22,758
Oh, just a few?
478
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,633
- Come on. You'll be all right.
- Okay.
479
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,639
Hey, now, we ain't gonna get nowhere
480
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,911
with everybody quacking
at the same time.
481
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,673
Now, let Mr. Stevenson talk.
482
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,160
Um... It's a pleasure
to meet all of you.
483
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,275
Thank you. Um...
484
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,951
Now, I know you all
have a lot of questions,
485
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,271
but I really would love to hear
from you guys first,
486
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,876
just to get a better understanding
of your perspective on things.
487
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,874
Our perspective is ain't no way
Johnny D. did this crime.
488
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,437
The morning that girl was killed,
489
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,594
we was all having a fish fry here
to raise money for the church.
490
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,639
- Johnny D. was here. Morning till night.
- Mmm-hmm.
491
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,194
Working on his truck with John.
492
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,794
You were with your dad that day?
493
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,313
Yeah, we was up at 6:00 in the morning
to put the truck on the rack.
494
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,720
Jimmy was there, too.
495
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,359
Yep. We had that tranny
496
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,160
- cleaned out by 9:30.
- Mmm-hmm.
497
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,470
Now, how he supposed to kidnap
498
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,031
some crazy white man
all the way in Evergreen,
499
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,558
then drive back to Jackson Cleaners
to kill that girl at 10:15
500
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,075
- if his truck ain't got no transmission?
- Hello.
501
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,511
How many of you all
were with Walter that morning?
502
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,994
My husband could have never done this,
no kind of way.
503
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,675
Whether we was with him or not,
he is just not like that.
504
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,120
Well, everybody know they went after him
'cause of that woman.
505
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:09,960
Sorry, Minnie.
506
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,480
It's okay.
507
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,355
It ain't no secret.
508
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,016
A few months before the murder,
509
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,635
Johnny D. got caught messing around
with a white woman in town.
510
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,230
When her husband find out about it,
he made sure everybody knew.
511
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,030
People started talking,
and the stories kept growing.
512
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,954
He went from being a cheat,
to a drug dealer,
513
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,952
to head of the Dixie Mafia.
514
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,918
So, by the time
somebody call him a murderer,
515
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,071
ain't nobody thought twice about it.
516
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,833
They can call it what they want,
517
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,196
this is just another way
to lynch a black man.
518
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,560
Amen.
519
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,000
Amen.
520
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,400
There ain't no excuse
521
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,392
for what my husband did to me
and this family.
522
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,714
Damn fool hurt me bad.
523
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,079
But he still the daddy of my kids.
524
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,616
And I really don't know
what I'm supposed to tell them
525
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,678
about staying out of trouble
when you can be in your own house
526
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,798
minding your own business,
surrounded by your entire family
527
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,872
and they still going to put
some murder on you.
528
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,710
That's right.
529
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,880
It's not just Dad.
530
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,271
We feel like they put us all
on death row, too.
531
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,390
Baby...
532
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,389
I can only imagine
the pain that you're going through.
533
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,720
But I'm gonna do everything I can.
534
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,031
The last lawyer was talking
just as big as you.
535
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,176
John...
536
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,351
Then they took all our money and split.
537
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,315
Why you different?
538
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,359
Well, our organization will cover
all legal fees,
539
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,433
so none of you
will ever have to pay a penny.
540
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,200
Now, it's clear to me that this trial
was constructed with lies...
541
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,836
and based off everything that I've seen,
542
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,640
I think we could build a case
strong enough to bring Johnny D. home.
543
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,749
And I'm not gonna stop
until I've done that.
544
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,752
Well, you seem like good people to me.
545
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,917
But Johnny D.'s the one
you gonna have to convince.
546
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,356
I don't know about the rest of y'all,
547
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,473
but I was sold on,
"Y'all won't pay a penny."
548
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:21,796
Amen.
549
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,834
Mr. Stevenson?
550
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:30,990
Call me Bryan.
551
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,150
Okay.
552
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,354
This is my friend, Darnell.
553
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,520
He has something
he wants to talk to you about.
554
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,320
Go on.
555
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,753
I think I can prove he's innocent.
556
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,640
You heard of Bill Hooks, right?
557
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:53,840
Yeah.
558
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,560
He testified
that he saw Johnny D.'s truck
559
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:56,800
at the cleaners that morning.
560
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,596
Bill didn't see shit.
561
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:00,915
He made the whole thing up.
562
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,320
How do you know that?
563
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,279
'Cause I was with him.
We was working at the shop together.
564
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,192
- The morning of the murder?
- Yes, sir.
565
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,351
We was fixing the head gasket
on the Camaro
566
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,911
from 8:00 in the morning
till right after we closed for lunch.
567
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,036
He was right next to me
when them sirens was going off.
568
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,360
Why would he lie?
569
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,478
'Cause the snitch
cut a deal with the cops.
570
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:27,776
They had him locked up for burglary,
571
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,996
and the day he give his statement,
he walk out free.
572
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,275
All charges dropped.
573
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,760
We told one of the other lawyers,
and they ain't do nothing about it.
574
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,315
Hmm.
575
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,640
Would you be willing to sign a statement
we could use in court?
576
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,319
Police will see my name?
577
00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:50,515
It'd be on the record.
578
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,240
Darnell, exposing yourself like this
is not easy.
579
00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,875
But with your testimony,
580
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,560
we can file a motion
to reopen Johnny D.'s case.
581
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,149
Darnell...
582
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:08,880
we need you.
583
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,280
Okay, yeah.
584
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,953
Okay.
585
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,395
Yeah, that'll do it.
586
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,556
All right.
587
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,760
Good morning.
588
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:40,636
Good morning.
589
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,994
Thanks for seeing me again.
590
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,150
Mmm-hmm.
591
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,357
I know the last time we met,
things didn't go quite the way I was...
592
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,511
I can't believe you met my family.
593
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,832
Drove down that dirt road,
crammed up in that little house,
594
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,992
talked to all my people,
say you gonna try to fight for me.
595
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,549
That mean a lot.
596
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,759
It meant a lot to me, too.
597
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,274
Oh, uh...
598
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,876
Minnie wanted me to give this to you.
599
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,234
And if you don't mind,
I have something I wanna show you.
600
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,120
It's a statement from Darnell Houston...
601
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,673
saying that he was with Bill Hooks
602
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,871
three miles away
at the time of the murder.
603
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,236
So, there's no way he could have seen
your truck there.
604
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,240
That's good, right?
605
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,595
That's very good.
606
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,835
I'm gonna submit this
with a motion for a new trial.
607
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,670
I know you talked to Minnie.
She told you what I did to her.
608
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,536
I ain't got no excuse for cheating
on a woman good as that one,
609
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,040
good as she been to me.
610
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,793
I don't know why she's standing by me.
611
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,719
She's standing by you because she knows
you shouldn't be in here.
612
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,234
And so do I.
613
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,192
I know you didn't kill Ronda Morrison.
614
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,440
And I can help you prove that in court
if you'll let me.
615
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,951
You know, you done met my whole family.
You know everything about 'em.
616
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,073
I don't know nothing about you, though.
617
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,936
- What would you like to know?
- I wanna know it all.
618
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,759
Like why you... Why you doing this?
619
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,354
- Why am I a lawyer?
- No, no, no.
620
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,193
Why is you a lawyer down here in Alabama
621
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,920
taking these cases
that ain't nobody gonna pay you for?
622
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,397
I grew up down a road just like yours.
623
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,673
I played soccer in a dirt field
with the pigs and chickens.
624
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,193
Used to pump sewage from my yard.
625
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,198
When I was a teenager, my grandfather
was murdered over a black-and-white TV.
626
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,435
We kept waiting for someone
to show up to help.
627
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,320
They never did.
628
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:30,157
And that's when I realized that,
outside my community, nobody cared.
629
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,392
'Cause to them, he's just another
black man killed in the projects.
630
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,919
I know what it's like to be
in the shadows.
631
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,480
That's why I'm doing this.
632
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:52,200
That's a pretty good reason.
633
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,035
Okay.
634
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:06,870
Okay...
635
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,715
Let's get to work.
636
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,310
Okay.
637
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,556
- Hey, yo, Johnny D.?
- Mmm-hmm.
638
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,037
You signing up with that lawyer?
639
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,918
I'm gonna give him a try.
640
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,390
Seem like everybody on the row
working with him now.
641
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,914
I'm starting to feel left out.
642
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,953
Is he really that good?
643
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,110
I hope so.
644
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,359
What you think, Herbert?
645
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,716
Should I just dump my guy
and make the switch over?
646
00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,669
Herb, you hear me?
647
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:01,870
You there?
648
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,036
I'm here.
649
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,150
Herb, you okay?
650
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,876
They set my date.
651
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:25,856
Look here, Herb,
don't you worry about nothing now.
652
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,951
Everything gonna be a'ight. Okay?
653
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,793
Ain't nothing over yet.
You got Bryan working for you now.
654
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,199
I ain't like you guys.
655
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,911
I deserve what's coming.
656
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,957
All right, now, see, Herb...
657
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,559
there you go talking out your ass.
658
00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:47,038
Now, you fought for this country.
659
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,351
And they threw you in the bag
like the trash.
660
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,516
That war made you sick
in your head, man.
661
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,239
You supposed to be in the hospital.
662
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,156
Not here.
663
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,950
When I told the cops that stopped me
I was innocent,
664
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,479
do you know what they said?
665
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,314
"One of you niggers did it...
666
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,395
and if it wasn't you,
then you taking one for your homie."
667
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,115
Johnny D. prosecutor say he know
he killed the girl
668
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,476
because of the way he looked
in his mug shot.
669
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,119
You don't deserve this shit
more than any of us, Herb.
670
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,149
A girl is dead because of me.
671
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,916
That don't give nobody the right
to kill you back.
672
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,555
Herbert was 18
when he went to Vietnam.
673
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,031
He was the only survivor in an ambush
that killed his whole platoon.
674
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,991
After that, he had a mental breakdown,
attempted suicide,
675
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,958
and was sent home
on an honorable discharge.
676
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,833
Back at home, he continued to suffer
from nightmares, crying fits...
677
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,913
running out of his house,
screaming "incoming" to his neighbors.
678
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,800
His lawyer didn't even mention
military service
679
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,593
or mental trauma to the jury.
680
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,912
A few months after the trial,
he was disbarred for misconduct.
681
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,116
'Course he was.
682
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,194
Okay, what can we do?
683
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,236
Well, since he's already been through
the appeals process,
684
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,671
the statute of limitations is gonna
make it hard for a judge to listen.
685
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,600
We're gonna have to try and make him.
686
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,753
I'll get started on the motion tonight.
687
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,240
- Hello?
- Okay.
688
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:40,234
It's for you, Mom.
689
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,880
Oh, thank you, sweetie. Hello?
690
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,920
You the bitch
working for that nigger lawyer?
691
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,200
Who the hell is this?
692
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,953
The guy who put the bomb
under your house
693
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,554
gonna blow your family all to hell
694
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,195
if you don't stop working
for that nigger Johnny D.
695
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,080
Everybody, out of the house.
696
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:58,913
- What's going on?
- I'll tell you outside.
697
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,714
They didn't find anything.
698
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,190
And they're sure?
699
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,673
They said they're sure.
700
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,376
They checked the basement, too,
like you said?
701
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,520
- Said they checked the basement.
- Okay.
702
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,280
All right,
we're gonna move on now.
703
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,877
Okay, baby, let's get you to bed.
704
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:38,876
Yo, come on.
705
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,270
When you asked me
to do this thing with you...
706
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,439
I knew that I'd lose some friends.
707
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,515
Have people talk shit behind my back,
or to my face.
708
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:05,720
I don't need people to like me,
709
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,598
as long as I'm doing
what I'm supposed to do.
710
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,953
But threatening my family...
711
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:22,999
Eva, you know I'd never blame you
if you needed to stop.
712
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,839
I don't want my son growing up knowing
713
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,560
that his mom stopped doing
what was right
714
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,235
just because she was scared
of some crazy bigot.
715
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:41,710
Okay?
716
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,233
What are we gonna do about McMillian?
717
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,958
We start the investigation from scratch.
718
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,757
Find anyone in town
who's willing to talk.
719
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,480
Maybe people will stop trying to kill us
once they realize how charming we are.
720
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,997
I just wanted to ask you
a couple questions
721
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,753
about the Ronda Morrison murder.
722
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,993
Uh, it's just...
723
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:18,896
You were on the witness list
724
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,416
for the Ronda Morrison trial
a few years back.
725
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,636
Sorry. Can't help you with that.
726
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,776
Is there anything, anything at all
that you feel comfortable talking...
727
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:27,800
You know, look,
728
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,196
if you are not working
for that poor girl's family
729
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,736
then I ain't got nothing to say to you.
730
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,114
Sorry, sweetie.
731
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,236
Officer Ikner?
732
00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:39,200
I ain't no officer no more.
733
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,551
I'm a lawyer representing
Johnny D. McMillian.
734
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,596
I understand you were the first officer
on the scene.
735
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:52,760
I was right.
736
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,480
The fish fry
was on Saturday, November 1st.
737
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:56,994
The same day as the murder.
738
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,434
They put these up all over town.
739
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,796
I could kiss you, Deb.
740
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,936
We're planning to grow this
into something
741
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,917
the whole country will be talking about.
742
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,799
And you can say
that it all started in your building.
743
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,520
What exactly kind of work do you do?
744
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,520
We're just helping people.
745
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,576
- It looks good.
- It's perfect.
746
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,176
My client, Herbert Richardson,
was recommended for a Medal of Valor
747
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,793
for disarming a bomb in Vietnam.
748
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,793
We got a tip that a few
of your employees could back his alibi.
749
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,473
Vivian Clark was one of the teenagers
750
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,472
who were sexually abused
at your facility.
751
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:41,560
No, I'm not an attorney,
752
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,439
but I promise you,
your son is in very good hands.
753
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,110
We'll let you know.
754
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,556
- Yeah, very soon.
- Good talking to you.
755
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,952
Equal Justice Initiative.
This is Brenda.
756
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,277
Yeah. Okay. Yes. Uh-huh.
Just one moment.
757
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,115
Darnell Houston.
758
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,434
Hello, Darnell?
759
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,273
Whoa. Whoa, whoa.
Slow down, slow down, slow down.
760
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:12,556
Where are you?
761
00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:17,914
- Are you okay?
- No, sir, I'm not.
762
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,393
Okay, Darnell,
let's go talk in the car. Okay?
763
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,235
How in the hell
they locking me up for perjury
764
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,357
if alls I did was say the truth? Hmm?
765
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,956
I knew I shouldn't have
signed that paper, man.
766
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,256
Shouldn't have listened to you.
767
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,476
No. What they did to you
was completely illegal.
768
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,216
Okay? Now, I'm gonna talk to the DA
and get all these charges dismissed.
769
00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:42,799
This will never happen again.
770
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,314
Well, how the hell do you know?
771
00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:46,799
You can't control these guys.
772
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,036
They arrested me
in the middle of my shift,
773
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,032
in front of my boss.
774
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,430
I don't even know
if I got a job tomorrow.
775
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,635
I feel bad,
what they doing to Johnny D...
776
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,233
but I'm just trying to survive.
777
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,233
I can't fight these guys, man.
778
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,032
Go on and find somebody else.
779
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,033
Listen, Darnell.
Think about Johnny D., okay?
780
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,559
Think about his family. They need you.
781
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,959
Give me some time to work on this.
782
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,554
That's my ride.
783
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,833
Tell Johnny D. I'm sorry.
784
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:11,914
I need to speak with you.
785
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,637
Oh, hey, Bryan.
786
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,400
Have you met Sheriff Tate?
787
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,353
Who ordered the arrest of my witness?
788
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,993
When people make false statements
concerning this case,
789
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,673
they're gonna be held accountable.
790
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,016
You can't arrest someone for perjury
791
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,350
without evidence
that a false statement has been made.
792
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,160
Hang on. Are you representing
Mr. Houston now, too?
793
00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:36,310
Yes, I am.
794
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,960
His statement contradicts
Bill Hooks' entire testimony.
795
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,430
Hooks ain't the state's main witness.
Ralph Myers is.
796
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,796
Alabama Code 12-21-222
797
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,475
requires corroboration
of accomplice testimony.
798
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,075
So, without Hooks,
the conviction wouldn't be valid.
799
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,397
You know, I went down to see
Ronda Morrison's momma yesterday.
800
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:57,840
And she's in tears.
801
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,231
She kept asking me
why some lawyer from up north
802
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,478
would come down here and make them
relive all this hell again.
803
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,839
Well, you can tell her it's because
Johnny D. didn't kill her daughter.
804
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,196
And whoever did
is still out there somewhere.
805
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,430
Hmm.
806
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,349
I know how desperate you must be
807
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,274
to fulfill your fantasy
of who we are down here.
808
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,996
Just a bunch of corrupt Southern racists
framing niggers for murder.
809
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,633
And you here to save the day.
810
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,957
Well, hell, you can believe that
if you want to,
811
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,951
but I know
that Johnny D. killed that girl,
812
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,315
and he's gonna answer for it.
813
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,799
And how do you know that?
You have no hard evidence.
814
00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:42,110
You based your entire case
on the word of an indicted felon
815
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,376
who had every incentive
to tell you what you wanted to hear.
816
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,596
Ralph Myers testified on his own accord.
817
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:47,875
And it made no sense.
818
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,395
He couldn't finish a sentence
without contradicting himself.
819
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,516
Now, the charges against Darnell Houston
are baseless.
820
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:55,880
They'll never stand up in court.
821
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,519
They should be dropped immediately.
822
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,475
Okay.
823
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:08,040
Is that okay with you, Tommy?
824
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:09,636
Sure.
825
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,033
Well, it doesn't really matter
826
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,271
now the court denied your motion
to reopen the case.
827
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,110
Wait, what was that?
828
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,877
Oh, you didn't get the order?
829
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,479
Well, the judge is down in Mobile now,
830
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,677
so, you know,
sometimes they have mail issues.
831
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,553
Listen, you can tell Mr. Houston
832
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,096
the charges against him
are being dropped.
833
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,216
I can do that much for y'all
834
00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:32,550
but anything else
will have to be raised on appeal.
835
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,559
Thanks for stopping by, Counselor.
836
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,756
I want to see my mother
837
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,071
All I want
838
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,391
Whoa
839
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,035
To see my mother
840
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,231
Child, I want
841
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,634
To see my mother
842
00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:14,078
I'm going home to live...
843
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,240
Something wrong, Officer?
844
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,595
Step out of the vehicle.
845
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,075
I don't understand. I wasn't speeding.
846
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,114
I said step out of the vehicle.
847
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:34,590
I'll get out of the car,
848
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,712
but first can you tell me
why you stopped me?
849
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:39,536
- Get out of the goddamn car!
- Whoa!
850
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,597
Whoa, whoa. Okay, okay. Hold on.
851
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,000
- Come on!
- Okay.
852
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:44,673
Okay. I'm taking off my seat belt.
853
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,911
- Get it! Come on!
- Okay. I'm opening up the door.
854
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,096
- I'm stepping out.
- Faster! Come on!
855
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,112
- Okay. I have nothing in my hands.
- Turn around!
856
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,078
- Yes. Okay. Okay.
- Hands on the car!
857
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,711
You don't have to have the gun
pointed at me.
858
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,555
- I'm not a threat.
- Shut your damn mouth, boy.
859
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,720
Hey, brother...
860
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,878
you ought to be careful with your words
when you got a gun at your head.
861
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:16,470
Let's go, John.
862
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,120
Why did you stop me?
863
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:28,475
We're letting you go.
864
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:31,435
You should be happy.
865
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,595
Even if they drop them charges,
866
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,673
Darnell ain't gonna testify
after what they done done to him.
867
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,309
I know we took a big hit. We did.
868
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,176
But we just need to gather more evidence
for another motion.
869
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,016
No, no. They gonna block it.
They gonna block it.
870
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,431
If they can put me on the row for a year
without no trial,
871
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:17,954
they can do whatever they wanna do.
872
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,351
They put you on death row
before your trial?
873
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:22,840
Yeah.
874
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,513
Sheriff drove me himself.
875
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,276
Said, "I'm gonna give you a little taste
of what it's like unless you confess."
876
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,296
Why are you just now telling me this?
877
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:32,754
This is how it is down here.
878
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,792
Been like this long as I can remember.
879
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,798
They messing with you, ain't they?
880
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,792
Yeah, they are.
They're not making it easy on me.
881
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,600
I got a plan for you, though.
882
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:00,916
I'm all ears.
883
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:03,696
This what I think we should do.
884
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,872
I think you should train up
another lawyer
885
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,600
'cause I'm gonna need somebody
just in case they take you out.
886
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,154
Oh, it's like that?
887
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,278
Like that. It's like that.
888
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:18,919
Thought I had a friend.
889
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,116
Ain't no friends in here.
890
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:21,600
- Cold world.
- Yeah.
891
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:26,874
So, we ain't got Darnell.
892
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,070
What's the next move?
893
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,518
I think we should talk to Ralph Myers.
894
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:41,880
- Walter...
- No.
895
01:00:41,881 --> 01:00:43,281
Just listen to me for a second.
896
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,878
I know it's risky,
897
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,880
but the only way to find out
what he really knows
898
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,474
is for me to get him talking.
899
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,080
I know what he know.
900
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,519
You know what that man did to me?
901
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,040
Took my life away from me...
902
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,109
to save his own ass.
903
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,798
All he gonna give you is lies.
904
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,638
I promise I'm gonna be careful.
905
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,000
Get in line.
906
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,000
Mr. Myers.
907
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:44,429
You Bobby?
908
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:46,829
I'm Bryan.
909
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,356
Maybe later.
910
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,597
Okay. Do you wanna sit down?
911
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:55,993
You gonna buy me a Coke first?
912
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,194
Or you gonna make me stare
at them vending machines all day?
913
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,479
Sure. What do you want?
914
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:04,754
Sunkist orange.
915
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:06,509
Okay.
916
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,398
And some Jujyfruits, if they got 'em.
917
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,756
I just want to say
thanks for meeting me, Mr. Myers.
918
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,393
Can we start by talking about
your testimony against Johnny D.?
919
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:30,675
No.
920
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:33,440
I ain't talking about him.
921
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,592
That's the only reason why I'm here.
922
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,239
You don't like it, leave.
923
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,360
Aw, don't look so sad.
We can talk about other things.
924
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:44,590
I love to talk.
925
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,670
My wife says if I got paid
for every word I said,
926
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,717
we'd be a couple of billionaires by now.
927
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:53,910
Oh, yeah?
928
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,193
How long you been married?
929
01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:00,433
Long enough to pop out a couple of kids
and watch her turn 'em all against me.
930
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:01,749
You got kids?
931
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,155
Me? No.
932
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,480
But Johnny D. does.
933
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:08,480
Yeah.
934
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,678
The thing about kids is
they ain't nothing like having a dog.
935
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:13,389
It's a totally different deal.
936
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,711
I wish somebody had told me that
in the first place.
937
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,674
And my kids,
they think they got it so bad.
938
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,119
They ain't seen nothing like I seen.
939
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,640
Try making it as a foster kid
your whole life.
940
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,440
As soon as you figure out
one shitty parent,
941
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,000
they moving you to a new one.
942
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:33,555
Uh...
943
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,280
I'm sorry.
944
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,434
I'm sure that wasn't easy.
945
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:44,680
How many kids he got?
946
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,274
Johnny D. has three.
947
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,400
Mr. Myers, I know you
made a deal with the state.
948
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,033
But I don't think they told you
Johnny D. was gonna die because of it.
949
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,632
That must not be an easy thing to carry.
950
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,799
And I'm hoping there's a part of you
that wants to make things right.
951
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,631
Can we please talk about your testimony?
952
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,120
Hey. Hey!
953
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,720
From the day they moved my ass
into Escambia...
954
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,914
for something I'm telling you
I ain't had nothing to do with,
955
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,832
all them police wanted to talk about
was Ronda Morrison.
956
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,991
It was Morrison this, Morrison that.
957
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,754
Sometimes four or five of 'em
in the room at the same time.
958
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,159
They were questioning you about her
the day you were arrested?
959
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,360
Alls I'm saying is...
960
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:57,075
ain't nobody cared about a damn thing
besides who killed that girl.
961
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,038
And when people care
about a thing that much,
962
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,112
they'll do anything
to get what they want.
963
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,880
You know they'll kill you
if you get to the bottom of this, right?
964
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:08,879
Wait. Where are you going?
965
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,679
We done here, Bobby.
966
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,359
Thanks for the Jujys.
967
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,035
Ready, boss.
968
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,856
Myers said he was questioned
about Ronda Morrison
969
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,758
the day he was arrested, on June 3rd.
970
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,496
But the only statement
they presented in court
971
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,989
was recorded almost two months later.
972
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,390
Do you think they're hiding
his first statement somewhere?
973
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,600
If they are, it might be
at the Escambia courthouse
974
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,120
with the files from his other case.
975
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:35,674
You know anyone over there?
976
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:37,789
I do.
977
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,157
That's everything we got on Myers.
978
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:45,480
You can make copies over there.
979
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,592
- Thank you, ma'am.
- Sure, baby.
980
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,077
He's cute. Married?
981
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,311
Married to his work.
982
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:55,720
How's Uncle Mickey doing?
983
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:05,280
Miss Miller.
984
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:07,669
Can I take a copy of these?
985
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,672
They ain't paying me enough to stop you.
986
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,034
Did you find the transcript
from Myers' first statement?
987
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,277
- Yeah.
- Thank you.
988
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:38,120
What?
989
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,016
I understand that, Sheriff.
990
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:49,156
That's Myers.
991
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:50,800
And that's what I'm trying to tell you.
992
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,794
Because, I'm gonna be honest with ya,
I don't know a damn thing.
993
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,016
Is that right?
994
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:58,235
And that's Tate.
995
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,960
Yes, sir. It's righter
than anything I've ever said.
996
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,080
And you would take
a polygraph test
997
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,954
to the fact that you do not know
who killed Ronda Morrison?
998
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:08,474
That's right, sir. I will.
999
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:10,976
Would you face the person
1000
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,296
who came in here
and testified that you...
1001
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,313
I will face any damn body
in this world on that
1002
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,392
because it's a stone lie.
1003
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,917
And if you asking me to frame
an innocent man for murder,
1004
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,071
well, thatjust ain't something
I'm willing to do.
1005
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:28,190
Holy shit.
1006
01:07:58,400 --> 01:07:59,800
Herb, you all right over there?
1007
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:04,000
- Hmm?
- No.
1008
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,875
Now, listen here, you gonna have to get
your mind off tomorrow.
1009
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,995
Bryan is working on that as we speak.
1010
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,353
Now, you know how these courts here is.
1011
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,672
They wait till the last minute,
but you gonna get that stay.
1012
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:22,037
Why did I make that bomb?
1013
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,273
Herb, don't go there now.
1014
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:25,680
Why'd I do that?
1015
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,878
I wasn't trying to hurt nobody.
1016
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:30,195
Herb, I know.
1017
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:34,475
Why am I so stupid?
1018
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,478
No, no, you ain't stupid.
1019
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,635
That war got you sick,
and you still sick.
1020
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,476
Girl wasn't supposed
to come by and pick it up.
1021
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,871
Listen, Herb. I want you to...
1022
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:47,872
She wasn't supposed to come by
and pick it up.
1023
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,873
This what we gonna do, Herb.
We gonna slow your mind down.
1024
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,714
Remember what we practiced now.
What we do?
1025
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,871
- Deep breaths.
- Yeah. Yeah.
1026
01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,120
Come on, do that with me now.
1027
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:01,837
Deep breaths.
1028
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:05,949
In and out.
1029
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:11,835
Now in.
1030
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:15,634
Now close your eyes.
1031
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:18,714
Get away from all this.
1032
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,154
No more walls.
1033
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:24,400
No more guards.
1034
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:27,919
No more wars to fight.
1035
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,160
Just you, out in the open.
1036
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,393
Fresh air on your face.
1037
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:43,959
Look at them pine trees.
1038
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,751
They've been growing
since 'fore we was born.
1039
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,673
And they gonna keep growing
even after we gone.
1040
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,918
And they done been through the same shit
we done been through.
1041
01:10:04,440 --> 01:10:06,830
But they still dancing in the breeze.
1042
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:17,875
Can you see 'em?
1043
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:21,755
Yeah.
1044
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:23,676
Good.
1045
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,712
Now I want you to think
about nothing else.
1046
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:29,714
Just keep your mind on that.
1047
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,758
And everything gonna be a'ight.
1048
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:52,199
I need Strickland v. Washington,
1049
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,033
and the affidavit
from Herbert's sergeant.
1050
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:11,309
Let's send it.
1051
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:19,920
Now what?
1052
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,115
We wait.
1053
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:46,752
EJI. This is Bryan Stevenson.
1054
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,160
Mr. Stevenson,
1055
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:52,832
the court has just entered an order
in case number 895395.
1056
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:54,718
The motion for a stay of execution
1057
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,679
and petition for writ of certiorari
have been denied.
1058
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,954
We'll fax copies of the order
over to your office shortly.
1059
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,192
- Thank you.
- Thank you.
1060
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,480
He asked me to be there.
1061
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:26,670
Okay.
1062
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,035
I'll drive you, then.
1063
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,715
Come on, Herbert. We gotta go.
1064
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:10,074
Can I say bye to my friends?
1065
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,312
When it get too much for you...
1066
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,152
you take them deep breaths.
1067
01:13:33,440 --> 01:13:35,079
Let your mind go.
1068
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,798
Wish I didn't have to do this alone.
1069
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,033
You ain't by yourself, Herbert.
1070
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:49,354
We all with you.
1071
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,279
Ain't that right, Ray?
1072
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,517
That's right, Herb.
You ain't rid of us yet.
1073
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,197
You've been a good friend.
1074
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,120
First time in the chamber, huh?
1075
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:55,036
Yeah.
1076
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,919
Don't think too much.
You'll lose your shit.
1077
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,077
Need anything, Mr. Richardson?
1078
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,152
You still gonna play my song?
1079
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,239
Got it cued up and ready.
1080
01:15:20,480 --> 01:15:21,709
Thank you.
1081
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,832
It's been a strange day.
1082
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,117
More people asked
how they can help me today
1083
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,431
than ever asked in my whole life.
1084
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,313
Do I look funny?
1085
01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:01,192
I ain't know they were gonna
shave off everything.
1086
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,000
You look fine.
1087
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:22,476
Well, most people
don't get to sit and think all day...
1088
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,071
about it being their last day alive.
1089
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,558
It's different than Nam.
1090
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,078
Least I had a chance there.
1091
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:41,640
I'm sorry.
1092
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:50,720
You the only one cared enough
to fight for me.
1093
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:59,032
Since I don't have family,
1094
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,397
I told the army to send my flag to you,
if that's okay.
1095
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:09,554
I'd be honored.
1096
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,036
Can you pray with me?
1097
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:25,994
Of course.
1098
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:37,636
They're ready.
1099
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:49,955
On a hill far away
1100
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:55,237
Stood an old rugged cross
1101
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,915
The emblem of suffering and shame
1102
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,915
And I love that old cross
1103
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,471
Where the dearest and best
1104
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:15,952
For a world of lost sinners was slain
1105
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,791
And I'll cherish
1106
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:25,954
The old rugged cross
1107
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,877
Till my trophies at last I lay down
1108
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:31,758
You, Herbert Lee Richardson,
1109
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,717
shall be put to death by electrocution
in the state of Alabama,
1110
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,679
as ordered and decreed
by Judge Jerry M. White,
1111
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:43,118
for the murder of Rena Mae Collins
on August the 16th, 1977.
1112
01:18:44,440 --> 01:18:45,590
So ordered.
1113
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:47,909
Mr. Richardson...
1114
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,916
do you have any final words
you'd like to say?
1115
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:59,595
Oh, that old rugged cross
1116
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,593
So despised by the world
1117
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:06,230
I have no ill feeling.
1118
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,793
And I hold nothing against anyone.
1119
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:17,438
So I'll cherish the old rugged cross
1120
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:20,320
The old rugged cross
1121
01:19:20,440 --> 01:19:25,117
Till my trophies at last I lay down
1122
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,113
I lay down
1123
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:34,794
I will cling to the old rugged cross
1124
01:19:36,440 --> 01:19:43,358
And exchange it someday for a crown
1125
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,477
To the old rugged cross
1126
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,636
I will ever be true
1127
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:59,952
Its shame and reproach gladly bear
1128
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:06,195
Then he'll call me someday
1129
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:11,390
To my home far away
1130
01:20:11,480 --> 01:20:14,632
Where his glory
1131
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:20,512
Forever I'll share
1132
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:24,440
So I'll cherish...
1133
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,479
We with you, Herbert! We all with you!
1134
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:29,040
We love you, Herb!
1135
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:30,474
We all with you, Herb.
1136
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,040
I'm walking with you, Big Herb!
1137
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:33,554
Believe in your heart, Herb.
1138
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,034
We're with you, buddy!
1139
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:36,156
Be strong, Herb!
1140
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:46,720
I will cling to the old rugged cross
1141
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:52,638
And exchange it someday
1142
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:56,159
For a crown
1143
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:57,833
We love you, Herb!
1144
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:51,880
Hey.
1145
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:09,436
I...
1146
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,079
Well, I hope this important news
of yours comes with some food.
1147
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:16,560
'Cause I'm starving.
1148
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,160
Sit down, Mr. Myers.
1149
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:24,751
You was a lot nicer the last time.
1150
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,792
I heard the recording of the first
statement you gave on June 3rd.
1151
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,077
The one they didn't present in court.
1152
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,596
You told the sheriff
you didn't know anything
1153
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:42,637
about Johnny D. or the murder.
1154
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,031
You told him you didn't want to frame
an innocent man.
1155
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:47,840
Do you remember saying that?
1156
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:50,915
Now, what I'm wondering is,
1157
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,277
how do you go from knowing nothing
about a murder on June 3rd
1158
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,273
to becoming the state's key witness
three months later?
1159
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,319
What changed your mind?
1160
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:13,555
What's that?
1161
01:24:14,480 --> 01:24:16,631
Intake log from Holman prison.
1162
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,517
On August 1st, 1987,
1163
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:23,035
Sheriff Tate transferred two inmates
1164
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,553
from county jail to death row.
1165
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,320
Johnny D...
1166
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:34,389
...and you.
1167
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:42,920
Did they move you to death row
1168
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:44,957
because you wouldn't
testify against him?
1169
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:54,309
They executed Wayne Ritter a few weeks
after you got there, isn't that right?
1170
01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:58,909
I was in the witness room
1171
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,560
when they killed Herbert Richardson
Thursday night.
1172
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:07,956
And it was the most horrific thing
I've ever experienced.
1173
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,957
I'm sure Ritter's execution
wasn't easy for you either.
1174
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,997
They put me in the cell
closest to the kill room.
1175
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,800
Middle of the night,
everybody started screaming,
1176
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:43,520
banging on the bars.
1177
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:46,430
And then...
1178
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,992
Then came the smell of his skin burning.
1179
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:02,319
I know that smell.
1180
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,273
May I ask you what happened?
1181
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:14,554
Seven years old.
1182
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:20,790
I was sleeping in my foster mom's
basement when her heater blowed up.
1183
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,472
Catched my pj's on fire.
1184
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,874
I was screaming for two minutes straight
before they found me.
1185
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:36,951
Everybody knowed
that I got a fear of being burned.
1186
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:42,436
They knowed what it would do to my head
to be in a place like that.
1187
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:48,032
I couldn't stop shaking all night.
1188
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,357
Curled up on the floor like a baby.
1189
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,400
Trying to breathe,
but every breath you take just...
1190
01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:00,119
You get another taste
of the man they killed.
1191
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,275
You can't go through
something like that...
1192
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,319
and come out the same.
1193
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:14,836
I know.
1194
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:22,153
I called that sheriff the next morning.
1195
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:23,356
I told him...
1196
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:27,636
I would say whatever he wanted
to get me out.
1197
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:30,633
And he took my statement...
1198
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,717
moved me to county the next day.
1199
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,836
Mr. Myers, we're going to court
very soon
1200
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,674
to try to get Johnny D.
the retrial he deserves.
1201
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,118
And I'd like you to take the stand.
1202
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:50,396
No.
1203
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,352
No, sir. No, sir.
1204
01:27:53,480 --> 01:27:54,960
They are using you.
1205
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:57,559
They're using you to condemn a man
1206
01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:59,836
that you have much more in common with
than you think.
1207
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:03,496
And if there's any part of you
that wants to make things right,
1208
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,830
this is the last chance
you're gonna get.
1209
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:19,314
The tension is high this morning
here at the Baldwin County Courthouse,
1210
01:28:19,480 --> 01:28:22,279
where a hearing is being held
to see if the man convicted
1211
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:25,711
of killing Ronda Morrison
deserves a new trial.
1212
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,474
Miss Morrison was only 18 years old
1213
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,395
when she was murdered at Jackson
Cleaners in Monroeville, Alabama.
1214
01:28:32,480 --> 01:28:37,760
Many have taken the two-hour drive here
from Monroeville to show their support.
1215
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,315
Extra security precautions
were implemented
1216
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,154
due to the highly emotional nature
of this case.
1217
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,554
Ronda Morrison's parents said
they have no doubt
1218
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:53,634
Mr. McMillian is the man responsible
for the murder of their daughter,
1219
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:57,430
but members of McMillian's family
claim they have the wrong man.
1220
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:01,440
Much of today's hearing is hinging
on the testimony of Ralph Myers,
1221
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,830
a convicted felon
who was the key witness
1222
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,276
against McMillian in the original trial.
1223
01:29:35,480 --> 01:29:39,679
What we'll be talking about today
is obviously an emotional issue.
1224
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:42,960
And if any of y'all don't think
you can maintain
1225
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,271
a reasonable degree of decorum...
1226
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,951
then I would ask you to leave now.
1227
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:56,236
All right, if we're ready, then,
we will proceed.
1228
01:29:58,080 --> 01:29:59,480
Mr. Stevenson.
1229
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:01,720
Thank you, Your Honor.
1230
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:14,832
The state's case
against Walter McMillian
1231
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,230
turned entirely
on the testimony of Ralph Myers.
1232
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,559
There was no other evidence
to establish Mr. McMillian's guilt.
1233
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,309
No physical evidence
linking him to the crime.
1234
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:25,357
No motive. No witnesses.
1235
01:30:25,480 --> 01:30:27,039
Only the word of one man.
1236
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,637
We call Ralph Myers to the stand.
1237
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,600
Sir, please stand
and place your right hand on the Bible.
1238
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:04,256
You swear to tell the truth,
the whole truth,
1239
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:06,351
and nothing but the truth,
so help you God?
1240
01:31:08,480 --> 01:31:09,550
Mr. Myers?
1241
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:12,556
Oh, yes. Sorry.
1242
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,397
The guards got me up about 2:00
in the morning to get me out here.
1243
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,476
Mr. Myers, did you testify against
Walter McMillian
1244
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:33,040
in August of 1988?
1245
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:35,520
Is that when it was?
1246
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:38,959
According to the record, yes.
1247
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,636
Okay, then, sure. If you say so.
1248
01:31:46,440 --> 01:31:48,955
And what did you say to the jury
when you testified?
1249
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:57,310
I don't think I can fully remember, sir,
1250
01:31:57,400 --> 01:31:59,915
to be honest with you. Sorry.
1251
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:02,795
No, that's quite all right.
1252
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,951
I have a transcript
of your testimony right here.
1253
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:19,952
At the trial, do you remember testifying
1254
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,430
that you were unwillingly
made part of a capital murder
1255
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:25,035
and robbery on November 1st, 1986
1256
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:27,396
when Walter McMillian
saw you at a car wash
1257
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,751
and asked you to drive his truck
because his arm hurt?
1258
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:32,994
Yes, sir, I guess so.
1259
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:37,760
Do you remember saying that you drove
Mr. McMillian to Jackson Cleaners,
1260
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:39,797
subsequently went into the building
1261
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:41,872
and saw Mr. McMillian with a gun,
1262
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,236
standing over the body
of Ronda Morrison?
1263
01:32:46,480 --> 01:32:47,596
Yes, sir.
1264
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:51,756
Mr. Myers, was the testimony
that you gave
1265
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:53,797
at Walter McMillian's trial true?
1266
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:05,396
I don't know.
1267
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:10,075
You don't know?
1268
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:15,399
I don't think I remember.
1269
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:42,079
Mr. Myers, do you know
who Walter McMillian is?
1270
01:33:44,440 --> 01:33:45,635
Yes, sir.
1271
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:48,680
Is he in this room?
1272
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:51,195
Yes, sir.
1273
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:57,233
Could you point him out for us?
1274
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:23,470
I'd like to ask you that question
one more time.
1275
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:28,958
Was the testimony that you gave
at Walter McMillian's trial true?
1276
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:40,716
No, sir. Not at all.
1277
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,076
Order, please.
1278
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:47,153
Did you see Mr. McMillian
on the day Ronda Morrison was murdered?
1279
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:48,630
No, sir.
1280
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,315
Did you drive his truck
to Monroeville that day?
1281
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:52,959
No. Never did.
1282
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:54,639
Did you go into Jackson Cleaners
1283
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:58,111
and see Mr. McMillian standing
over the body of Ronda Morrison?
1284
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:00,554
Absolutely not.
1285
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:06,190
Thank you.
1286
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:09,353
No further questions, Your Honor.
1287
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:16,275
Mr. Myers...
1288
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:21,160
how do we know
you ain't upset with the deal you got
1289
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:22,959
and you feel like somehow by...
1290
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:27,675
changing your story,
might help to get you out?
1291
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:32,200
Because that just
don't make no sense, sir.
1292
01:35:33,440 --> 01:35:36,512
Who do you think is deciding
what happens to me?
1293
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:38,395
If I live or die?
1294
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:41,920
It ain't me. It ain't Johnny D.
1295
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,515
It's all y'all
that's deciding that, so...
1296
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:48,037
how's my saying what I'm saying
gonna help to get me out?
1297
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:50,555
If anything,
it's gonna help get me to death row.
1298
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:53,876
But I don't care.
1299
01:35:54,440 --> 01:35:56,432
Y'all can do what you want with me.
1300
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:58,555
'Cause me...
1301
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:01,556
I can look in your face
1302
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:04,997
or anybody else's face,
dead eye to eyeball
1303
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:08,357
and say that anything I told
about Mr. McMillian...
1304
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:11,554
was a lie.
1305
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:14,679
He's here 'cause of me.
1306
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,477
And I sure would appreciate
you sending him home
1307
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:22,472
to his kids where he belongs.
1308
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:30,160
We submit a copy of the official log
1309
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,280
from the police officer
that stopped by the fish fry,
1310
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:34,630
confirming Walter McMillian was there
with his family.
1311
01:36:35,440 --> 01:36:38,956
Mr. Myers said that the body was faceup
near the front counter.
1312
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:43,316
But I found her facedown
in the back, by the bathroom.
1313
01:36:44,440 --> 01:36:46,955
Submitting exculpatory records
from Ralph Myers' stay
1314
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:48,952
at the Taylor Hardin
psychiatric hospital.
1315
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,919
Which the state did not disclose
to defense counsel.
1316
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:55,312
Mr. Myers was my patient
at the time,
1317
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:58,040
and he claimed on numerous occasions
1318
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:00,430
that he was being threatened
with the electric chair
1319
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,394
if he didn't say
what the authorities wanted to hear.
1320
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,395
The prosecutor
asked me to testify
1321
01:37:06,480 --> 01:37:09,234
that she had been drugged
from the front to the back.
1322
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:11,916
And I told him,
"I ain't gonna lie in court."
1323
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:17,194
And then, well, a few weeks later,
I got fired from the department.
1324
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:21,672
All of the evidence
presented today
1325
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:23,877
would have been critical
to the outcome of this case.
1326
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,798
And its exclusion is a clear violation
of Brady v. Maryland
1327
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,031
and Mr. McMillian's
constitutional rights.
1328
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:33,191
The truth has not been told
in this case.
1329
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:35,916
And I understand a lot of time
has gone by...
1330
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:39,720
but I personally believe
that it's never too late for justice.
1331
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:44,671
We ask the court to grant our motion
and order a new trial for Mr. McMillian.
1332
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:48,274
Thank you, Your Honor.
1333
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:52,440
Thank you, Counselors.
1334
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:54,354
We'll reconvene at a later date
1335
01:37:54,440 --> 01:37:56,557
once I've had time
to look through everything.
1336
01:37:57,920 --> 01:37:59,240
All rise.
1337
01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:07,696
Tell you the truth, I didn't think
he was gonna go through with it.
1338
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:10,792
Honestly, for a second there,
I didn't think so either.
1339
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,549
I can't even tell you
how I feel right now.
1340
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:22,590
Thank you.
1341
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:35,156
We got a few minutes
if y'all wanna say hi.
1342
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:45,759
We leave in five minutes.
1343
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:47,435
What's up, old man?
1344
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:50,152
- You did great.
- Thank you.
1345
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,596
Mmm-hmm. Chapman ought
to call you tonight
1346
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:54,376
and tell you that
he's dropping all them charges.
1347
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:55,880
Yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath.
1348
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:08,191
Upon the reading
of my decision,
1349
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:11,956
I expect the rules of decorum
in this courtroom to be upheld.
1350
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:19,154
Ralph Myers took the stand
before this court,
1351
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:20,879
swore to tell the truth,
1352
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:22,998
and proceeded to recant most,
1353
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:27,279
if not all of the relevant portions
of his testimony at trial.
1354
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:31,238
Clearly, he has either
perjured himself at trial,
1355
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:33,079
or in front of this court.
1356
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:36,159
After careful review,
1357
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:37,634
it is this court's opinion
1358
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:40,952
that conclusive evidence
has not been provided
1359
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:44,238
that Ralph Myers perjured himself
at the original trial
1360
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:48,595
and that pressure put on him
since his trial testimony
1361
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:51,400
could tend to discredit his recantation.
1362
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:56,116
Therefore, it is ordered,
adjudged and decreed
1363
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:58,510
that the trial testimony of Ralph Myers
1364
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:01,434
is not found
to have been perjured testimony,
1365
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:03,639
and no new trial shall be granted...
1366
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:05,080
- It's not over.
- ...at this time.
1367
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:09,237
Walter McMillian shall be returned
to Holman Correctional Facility,
1368
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,994
where he is to face
death by electrocution.
1369
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:29,556
You can't do this to us again, Judge.
1370
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:30,756
Sit down, young man.
1371
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:32,216
- John...
- This is my dad, sir.
1372
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:33,959
John. I want you to sit down now.
1373
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:35,474
He ain't do nothing wrong.
1374
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:37,233
Listen to your father. Not here.
1375
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:38,549
He ain't do nothing wrong.
1376
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:39,994
Sit down right now
1377
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:41,992
or you'll be arrested
for contempt of court.
1378
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,296
Judge, just give me one second.
Please, Judge. Hold on one second.
1379
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:45,320
Sit down, John.
1380
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:47,278
I won't say it again.
Sit down!
1381
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,636
Not if you gonna kill my dad
for no reason.
1382
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,839
Not if you gonna kill my dad
for no reason!
1383
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:54,176
He ain't do nothing wrong!
1384
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:55,536
Not in here. Not like this.
1385
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:57,279
You killing my family, sir.
1386
01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:00,396
You killing my family, sir. You!
1387
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:07,280
John!
1388
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:09,856
Judge! Judge! He's not resisting.
1389
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:11,456
- John!
- He ain't do nothing.
1390
01:41:11,480 --> 01:41:12,596
Stop resisting.
1391
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:35,030
You hear me?
Don't you let them get you.
1392
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:40,513
It's gonna be all right.
1393
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:42,474
Come on. Let's get you home.
1394
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:04,752
Come on, man, don't make this hard.
1395
01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:12,800
Come on.
1396
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:15,600
No. Don't do this, McMillian.
Come on. Go in.
1397
01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:18,399
Johnny D., no! No!
1398
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:23,840
Johnny D., no!
1399
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:27,996
Johnny...
1400
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:32,791
Relax. Relax. Relax.
1401
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:35,576
Give me your arm. Give me...
1402
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:37,200
Get him cuffed!
Get him cuffed.
1403
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:39,190
Relax.
1404
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:49,320
Good job.
1405
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:00,430
No more
1406
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:04,517
Auction
1407
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:11,680
Block for me
1408
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:17,798
No more
1409
01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:25,640
No more
1410
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:31,272
No more
1411
01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:36,397
Auction
1412
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:43,116
Block for me
1413
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:55,915
Nobody wants to remember
1414
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,993
that this is where
thousands of enslaved people
1415
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:02,676
were shipped in
and paraded up the street to be sold.
1416
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:06,920
Just ten miles from here,
1417
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,080
black people were pulled
from their homes and lynched.
1418
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:12,274
Nobody talks about it.
1419
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:20,197
And now this black boy from Delaware
walks into their courtrooms
1420
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:24,194
and expects them to admit
they convicted an innocent black man.
1421
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:30,952
I promised that whole community
I was gonna bring him home.
1422
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:37,192
Then I just made things worse.
1423
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:48,472
I've heard a lot of lawyers say
1424
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:51,155
it's not a good idea
to get close to your clients.
1425
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:54,153
Distance is healthy.
1426
01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:00,912
But working with you
showed me that that's bullshit.
1427
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:06,193
You choose to get close
to every one of them.
1428
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:09,915
And you love them
like they are your family.
1429
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:14,274
And when your family is hurting,
you're hurting.
1430
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:22,869
There is no way
that I could fully understand
1431
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:24,758
what it is that you're going through.
1432
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:30,433
But I am pretty sure that...
1433
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:33,156
you mean a lot more to this community
than you think.
1434
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:40,873
Walter, I'm so sorry.
1435
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:51,033
Day I got arrested,
I thought I was gonna be okay.
1436
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:54,633
'Cause I got the truth.
1437
01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:01,277
Soon as they talk to everybody
that was with me,
1438
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:02,953
they gonna have to let me go.
1439
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:11,280
Then the police
keep calling you a killer.
1440
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:18,034
Some white dude say he saw you do it.
1441
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:23,677
News people saying you did it.
1442
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:29,111
Judge and jury saying you did it.
1443
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:34,000
Now you on the row...
1444
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,312
two, three, four years.
1445
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:44,311
Your friends and your kids
ain't calling you like they used to.
1446
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:50,920
After a while, you start wondering
what they think about you.
1447
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:55,195
You start wondering
what you think about you.
1448
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:03,757
The truth ain't so clear no more.
1449
01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:11,192
But these last few days...
1450
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:14,600
I can't stop thinking
about Myers up there.
1451
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:17,192
Telling everybody how it went down.
1452
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:25,351
That's the first time I feel like myself
since I've been locked up.
1453
01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:30,556
The first time I remember who I is.
1454
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,156
These fools gonna do what they gonna do.
1455
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:48,635
But if they take me
to that chair tonight...
1456
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:53,473
I'm going out smiling.
1457
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:58,718
'Cause I got my truth back.
1458
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:05,393
You gave that to me.
1459
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:10,159
To me and my family.
1460
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:15,710
And ain't nobody
gonna take that from us.
1461
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:27,398
You ain't quitting, is you?
1462
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:33,000
No, sir.
1463
01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:42,999
Then there ain't no reason for you
to say you're sorry.
1464
01:50:50,440 --> 01:50:53,399
I know how disappointing
the last hearing was...
1465
01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:56,720
but that's not where this is gonna end.
1466
01:50:57,800 --> 01:50:59,640
We're preparing a motion
to submit our evidence
1467
01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:01,712
to the state supreme court
in Montgomery.
1468
01:51:02,440 --> 01:51:04,557
They have the power
to reverse the last decision
1469
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:06,791
and force the circuit court
to give us a new trial.
1470
01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:09,634
You think they'll do that?
1471
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:11,355
Nothing's guaranteed.
1472
01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:15,916
But I can't see how an outside court
can ignore the evidence that we have.
1473
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:19,035
And then what?
1474
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:21,436
Even if he do get out,
1475
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:23,796
everybody but us
still gonna think he guilty.
1476
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:27,235
If they can't kill him in there,
they can still do it out here.
1477
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:30,359
We've been worried about that, too.
1478
01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:33,430
And we're working on something
to help get the truth out.
1479
01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:42,800
We're rolling.
Whenever you're ready, Mr. Bradley.
1480
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:45,557
Okay, Bryan, you ready?
1481
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:47,550
I am.
1482
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:56,033
His name is Walter McMillian,
known to his friends as Johnny D.,
1483
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:58,680
and he's been on death row
in Alabama's Holman prison
1484
01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:00,479
for almost six years.
1485
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:03,679
A jury was convinced
they got the right man.
1486
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:06,480
But you may not be
after you watch this story.
1487
01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:08,595
The clerk who was murdered...
1488
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:10,558
Hey, hey, turn that up!
I can't hear it.
1489
01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:14,431
Johnny D. says
they want to execute the wrong man.
1490
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:16,837
- You didn't kill Ronda Morrison?
- No, sir.
1491
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:18,680
I never seen Ronda Morrison
a day in my life.
1492
01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:19,910
God knows I ain't.
1493
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:22,310
Did you ever go
into Monroeville
1494
01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:24,312
- on the day of the murder?
- No, sir.
1495
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:27,120
- You never went in...
- Never went to Monroeville, period.
1496
01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:29,709
I told them I had seen
a young girl
1497
01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:31,951
laying on the floor with her mouth open,
1498
01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:33,679
Johnny D. standing over her.
1499
01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:35,394
Was it true?
1500
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:38,674
No, sir. Not at all. Nowhere near true.
1501
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:43,196
If an execution date is set
for McMillian, and that day comes
1502
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:46,591
and it's time for him to go
to the electric chair,
1503
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:48,034
will you be comfortable?
1504
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:49,395
Yes.
1505
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:51,720
I'd be comfortable with it.
1506
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:55,200
Do you think it's fair, just?
He had his...
1507
01:52:55,280 --> 01:52:56,714
He had his day in court.
1508
01:52:57,120 --> 01:52:59,077
He was tried by a jury.
1509
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:01,038
They heard his testimony
and they believed it.
1510
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:05,277
Chapman says he's going
to indict Myers for perjury.
1511
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:09,355
Not for what he said at the trial,
but for what he's saying now.
1512
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:11,680
Next, we'll be presenting
our evidence
1513
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:13,319
to the Alabama Supreme Court,
1514
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:15,869
hoping they'll see
what we think is very clear...
1515
01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:18,038
that Walter McMillian is innocent.
1516
01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:20,119
McMillian's fate is now
1517
01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:22,431
in the hands
of the Alabama Supreme Court,
1518
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:26,719
which is expected to decide soon
if he's entitled to a new trial.
1519
01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:33,880
EJI, this is Brenda.
1520
01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:39,837
Okay. I'll let him know. Thank you.
1521
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:45,592
The supreme court ruling
in the McMillian case
1522
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:46,909
is ready to be picked up.
1523
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:53,520
I'll be back.
1524
01:53:59,920 --> 01:54:01,070
You're welcome.
1525
01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:17,496
A wave of shock
rolled through Monroe County today
1526
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:18,954
when the Alabama Supreme Court
1527
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:21,356
overturned the circuit court's
previous decision
1528
01:54:21,440 --> 01:54:25,400
and granted a new trial to convicted
killer Walter "Johnny D." McMillian.
1529
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:27,871
This was the first time a court
outside the county
1530
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:31,271
was shown the overwhelming evidence
proving Mr. McMillian's innocence.
1531
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:33,272
Though the court
granted him a new trial,
1532
01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:35,397
we believe he deserves
to be released immediately.
1533
01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:37,880
And that's exactly what we'll be arguing
at the next hearing.
1534
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:39,536
Mr. Chapman, how do you feel
about today's decision?
1535
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:41,677
I have no comment at this time.
Thank you.
1536
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:51,392
I'm looking for
Attorney Bryan Stevenson.
1537
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:55,392
- Mr. Stevenson?
- How can I help you?
1538
01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:57,870
Yes, sir, I've been ordered
to serve you this pleading.
1539
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:00,280
Thank you.
1540
01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:18,236
Tommy Chapman is asking the court
to stay the proceedings
1541
01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:20,471
so he can open up a new investigation.
1542
01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:23,950
He's trying to buy time
to rebuild his case.
1543
01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:27,240
That son of a bitch.
1544
01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:35,296
- Bryan?
- You're asking the court
1545
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:37,915
to keep a man on death row
you know is innocent.
1546
01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:42,680
Excuse me, Counselor?
I don't know what you mean.
1547
01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:45,036
The supreme court supports
all the evidence we presented.
1548
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:47,954
Every one of your witnesses recanted.
You got nothing left.
1549
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:50,040
Well, hang on,
my investigation's still in process.
1550
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:51,960
And we both know
you're not gonna find anything.
1551
01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:57,318
Do you have any idea the bullshit...
1552
01:55:58,080 --> 01:56:01,039
that I've had to put up with
since your 60 Minutes story aired?
1553
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:05,715
I got the governor on my ass,
got the NAACP calling me a racist.
1554
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:08,510
I got Ronda's family
checking in every five minutes.
1555
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:10,200
You can't keep an innocent man in prison
1556
01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:11,919
while you try
to salvage your reputation.
1557
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:14,071
This ain't got nothing to do
with my reputation.
1558
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:19,435
This is about the people of this county
who have hired me to keep 'em safe.
1559
01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:22,876
And what people
are you talking about right now?
1560
01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:25,039
The ones from this neighborhood?
1561
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:28,159
Or the ones from the black community
you took Johnny D. from?
1562
01:56:28,240 --> 01:56:30,038
You think they feel safe?
1563
01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:36,235
Your job isn't to defend
a conviction, Tommy.
1564
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:38,073
It's to achieve justice.
1565
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:41,759
And as long as you keep fighting this,
someone from your county
1566
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:44,071
has literally gotten away with murder.
1567
01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:47,136
You wanna come all the way to my house
at dinner time
1568
01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:48,799
just to tell me how to do my job?
1569
01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:50,713
No. No, I'm here
1570
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:53,599
because I think you know the difference
between right and wrong.
1571
01:56:54,160 --> 01:56:56,629
And you know Johnny D.
didn't kill that girl.
1572
01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:00,870
I'm filing a motion
to dismiss all charges.
1573
01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:02,912
And I think that you should join it.
1574
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:16,911
Next time you wanna stop by my house...
1575
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:20,999
appreciate you calling me first.
1576
01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:23,397
Now, you get the hell
off my property, Bryan.
1577
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:45,320
There's Bryan.
1578
01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:47,936
- What's going on?
- They won't let us in.
1579
01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:50,839
That boy is making us wait out here
for over an hour.
1580
01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:53,000
Excuse me.
1581
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:54,355
What are you doing?
1582
01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:55,874
Just following orders.
1583
01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:59,552
This is a public hearing.
These people need to be let in now.
1584
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:03,000
Um...
1585
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:07,874
Y'all can go in now.
1586
01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:09,799
Now that there's no seats left.
1587
01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:11,109
It's okay.
1588
01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:13,074
We'll find room.
1589
01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:14,576
- Go on in.
- Y'all come on.
1590
01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:16,080
- Excuse us.
- Yeah.
1591
01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:17,355
Come on, y'all.
1592
01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:19,554
Right this way. Come on.
1593
01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:21,589
Okay.
1594
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:26,416
Good to see you, sugar.
1595
01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:28,113
Okay. Thank you. Yes, ma'am.
1596
01:58:30,040 --> 01:58:31,440
All rise.
1597
01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:37,591
The 28th Judicial Circuit Court
of Alabama is now in session.
1598
01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:40,275
The Honorable Judge
Pamela Baschab presiding.
1599
01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:41,835
Please be seated.
1600
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:49,593
We've got a full house, so let's try
to move through this in a timely manner.
1601
01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:53,158
We're here because Mr. Stevenson
has filed a motion
1602
01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:55,197
to dismiss all charges
1603
01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:57,670
against Mr. McMillian in this case.
1604
01:58:58,000 --> 01:58:59,753
Now, Mr. Stevenson,
since it's your motion,
1605
01:58:59,840 --> 01:59:01,638
I'd like for you to speak to it first
1606
01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:03,279
and then we'll hear from the state.
1607
01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:19,830
It's easy to see this case as one man
trying to prove his innocence.
1608
01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:23,790
But when you take a black man
and you put him on death row
1609
01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:25,394
a year before his trial...
1610
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:29,199
and exclude black people
from serving on his jury...
1611
01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:31,880
When you base your conviction
1612
01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:34,156
on a coerced testimony
of a white felon...
1613
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:38,920
and ignore the testimony of two dozen
law-abiding black witnesses...
1614
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:43,075
When any evidence proving
his innocence is suppressed
1615
01:59:43,160 --> 01:59:46,278
and anyone who tries to tell the truth
is threatened...
1616
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:50,317
this case becomes more than the trial
of just a single defendant.
1617
01:59:51,280 --> 01:59:52,873
It becomes a test
1618
01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:56,271
of whether we're going to be
governed by fear and by anger
1619
01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:58,120
or by the rule of law.
1620
02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:07,200
If the people standing in the back
of this courtroom
1621
02:00:07,240 --> 02:00:09,516
are all presumed guilty when accused...
1622
02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:14,276
If they have to leave here
and live in fear
1623
02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:16,829
of when this very thing
will happen to them...
1624
02:00:19,080 --> 02:00:20,833
If we're just gonna accept the system
1625
02:00:20,920 --> 02:00:23,560
that treats you better
if you're rich and guilty
1626
02:00:23,640 --> 02:00:25,791
than if you're poor and innocent,
1627
02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:27,473
then we can't claim to be just.
1628
02:00:29,200 --> 02:00:32,318
If we say we're committed
to equal justice under law,
1629
02:00:32,400 --> 02:00:34,437
to protecting
the rights of every citizen,
1630
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:37,877
regardless of wealth, race, or status,
1631
02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:41,677
then we have to end this nightmare
for Walter McMillian and his family.
1632
02:00:42,680 --> 02:00:45,479
The charges against him have been proven
to be a false construction
1633
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:49,031
of desperate people
fueled by bigotry and bias...
1634
02:00:49,800 --> 02:00:52,554
who ignored the truth
in exchange for easy solutions,
1635
02:00:52,680 --> 02:00:54,273
and that's not the law.
1636
02:00:56,120 --> 02:00:57,679
That's not justice.
1637
02:01:01,080 --> 02:01:02,275
That's not right.
1638
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:08,678
I ask that this case
be dismissed immediately, Your Honor.
1639
02:01:11,960 --> 02:01:13,360
Thank you.
1640
02:01:26,240 --> 02:01:29,438
Mr. Chapman, what is the state's
position on this motion?
1641
02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:39,672
Your Honor, may I approach the bench?
1642
02:01:39,760 --> 02:01:40,876
Yes.
1643
02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:46,915
Your Honor, um...
1644
02:01:47,480 --> 02:01:48,709
I'm troubled.
1645
02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:51,993
- You're troubled?
- Troubled.
1646
02:01:56,920 --> 02:01:59,037
'Cause I know that the people
in this community
1647
02:01:59,120 --> 02:02:00,600
want to go to sleep at night
1648
02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:03,479
knowing that if someone
has committed a terrible crime,
1649
02:02:03,560 --> 02:02:05,677
then that someone is gonna be punished.
1650
02:02:10,760 --> 02:02:11,955
But, um...
1651
02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:14,069
in this case...
1652
02:02:16,720 --> 02:02:20,077
Your Honor, I have taken another look
at the evidence...
1653
02:02:20,960 --> 02:02:22,110
and, uh...
1654
02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:28,633
Mr. Chapman, please?
1655
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:31,189
And the state does not object
to the motion, Your Honor.
1656
02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:34,550
What?
1657
02:02:37,120 --> 02:02:39,191
To be clear,
Mr. Chapman,
1658
02:02:39,280 --> 02:02:43,240
are you joining the motion
to dismiss all charges today?
1659
02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:46,120
Yes, Your Honor, I am.
1660
02:02:48,240 --> 02:02:49,276
Order.
1661
02:02:49,360 --> 02:02:51,636
Please. Order.
1662
02:02:55,000 --> 02:02:58,198
Well, y'all have made my job easy today.
1663
02:02:59,200 --> 02:03:02,796
In the case of The People v. McMillian,
1664
02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:06,191
the court hereby grants
the defendant's motion.
1665
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:10,311
All charges against you
are dismissed, Mr. McMillian.
1666
02:03:10,400 --> 02:03:12,596
What does that mean?
1667
02:03:12,680 --> 02:03:13,909
That means you're free.
1668
02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:15,957
That means you're free
and you get to go home.
1669
02:03:31,160 --> 02:03:32,196
Hey.
1670
02:03:36,200 --> 02:03:37,360
Your family's coming.
1671
02:04:00,600 --> 02:04:02,512
I have my family back.
1672
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:52,759
We're all with you, brother.
1673
02:05:14,160 --> 02:05:15,753
Yo, Johnny D.!
1674
02:05:45,080 --> 02:05:47,914
I came out of law school
with grand ideas in my mind
1675
02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:49,719
about how to change the world.
1676
02:05:53,320 --> 02:05:55,880
But Mr. McMillian made me realize
we can't change the world
1677
02:05:55,960 --> 02:05:57,679
with only ideas in our minds.
1678
02:05:59,400 --> 02:06:01,153
We need conviction in our hearts.
1679
02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:05,238
This man taught me how to stay hopeful.
1680
02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:08,190
Because I now know that hopelessness
1681
02:06:08,280 --> 02:06:09,873
is the enemy ofjustice.
1682
02:06:12,360 --> 02:06:14,113
Hope allows us to push forward,
1683
02:06:14,200 --> 02:06:17,238
even when the truth is distorted
by the people in power.
1684
02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:21,799
It allows us to stand up
1685
02:06:22,160 --> 02:06:23,833
when they tell us to sit down.
1686
02:06:24,240 --> 02:06:26,914
And to speak when they say, "Be quiet."
1687
02:06:32,120 --> 02:06:34,430
Through this work,
I've learned that each of us
1688
02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:36,637
is more than the worst thing
that we've ever done.
1689
02:06:38,600 --> 02:06:40,831
That the opposite of poverty
isn't wealth.
1690
02:06:42,160 --> 02:06:44,914
The opposite of poverty is justice.
1691
02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:49,355
That the character of our nation
isn't reflected
1692
02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:51,830
in how we treat the rich
and the privileged...
1693
02:06:53,080 --> 02:06:57,359
but how we treat the poor,
the disfavored and condemned.
1694
02:07:02,120 --> 02:07:05,591
Our system has taken more away
from this innocent man
1695
02:07:05,720 --> 02:07:07,473
than it has the power to give back.
1696
02:07:10,840 --> 02:07:13,639
But I believe if each of us
can follow his lead...
1697
02:07:14,680 --> 02:07:17,070
we can change this world for the better.
1698
02:07:21,080 --> 02:07:23,197
If we can look at ourselves closely...
1699
02:07:23,960 --> 02:07:25,280
and honestly...
1700
02:07:25,880 --> 02:07:28,918
I believe we will see
that we all need justice.
1701
02:07:30,840 --> 02:07:32,752
We all need mercy.
1702
02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:34,795
And perhaps...
1703
02:07:35,200 --> 02:07:38,238
we all need some measure
of unmerited grace.
1704
02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:43,040
Thank you.
1705
02:07:46,360 --> 02:07:48,079
I taught you all that?
1706
02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:53,159
Yeah, you taught me some of that.
1707
02:07:54,360 --> 02:07:56,875
I'm pretty good, ain't I?
1708
02:07:57,360 --> 02:07:58,430
Yeah.
1709
02:07:58,520 --> 02:07:59,954
Great job.
1710
02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:52,119
Hi!
1711
02:09:52,760 --> 02:09:56,037
Oh, Lord, thank you, Jesus.
1712
02:09:56,240 --> 02:09:58,550
Thank you, Lord.
1713
02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:02,632
Oh, thank you, Jesus.
1714
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:19,878
I'ma gonna lay down,
lay down
1715
02:10:19,960 --> 02:10:23,431
I'ma gonna lay down, lay down
1716
02:10:23,520 --> 02:10:30,074
I'ma gonna lay down my life
for my Lord
1717
02:10:30,160 --> 02:10:33,995
Yes, I'ma gonna lay down, lay down
1718
02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:37,391
I'ma gonna lay down, lay down
1719
02:10:37,480 --> 02:10:42,555
I'ma gonna lay down my life
for my Lord
1720
02:10:42,640 --> 02:10:46,680
Oh, when them gamblers get together
1721
02:10:46,760 --> 02:10:49,912
How they can gamble like one another
1722
02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:55,359
But I'ma gonna lay down my life
for my Lord
1723
02:10:55,440 --> 02:10:59,275
Oh, when them drunkards get together
1724
02:10:59,360 --> 02:11:02,398
How they can drink like one another
1725
02:11:02,480 --> 02:11:06,997
But I'ma gonna lay down my life
for my Lord
1726
02:11:07,080 --> 02:11:10,312
Yes, I'ma gonna lay down my life
1727
02:11:10,400 --> 02:11:14,076
Oh, yes, I'm gonna lay down my
1728
02:11:14,160 --> 02:11:18,677
Lord, I'm gonna lay down my life
for my Lord
1729
02:11:18,760 --> 02:11:22,117
And John said to lay down my life
1730
02:11:22,200 --> 02:11:25,591
Yes, he said, "Lay down, lay down"
1731
02:11:25,680 --> 02:11:30,038
John said to lay down my life
for my Lord
1732
02:11:30,120 --> 02:11:33,079
Luke said to lay down, lay down
1733
02:11:33,160 --> 02:11:36,517
Oh, Luke said to lay down, lay down
1734
02:11:36,600 --> 02:11:41,436
Yeah, Luke said to lay down my life
for my Lord
1735
02:11:41,520 --> 02:11:45,036
Oh, when them dicers get together
1736
02:11:45,120 --> 02:11:47,954
How they economize one another
1737
02:11:48,040 --> 02:11:52,478
But I'ma gonna lay down my life
for my Lord
1738
02:11:52,560 --> 02:11:56,236
Oh, when them dicers get together
1739
02:11:56,320 --> 02:11:59,074
How they economize one another
1740
02:11:59,200 --> 02:12:03,672
But I'ma gonna lay down my life
for my Lord
1741
02:12:03,760 --> 02:12:07,276
Oh, when them liars get together
1742
02:12:07,360 --> 02:12:10,114
How they can lie like one another
1743
02:12:10,200 --> 02:12:14,797
But I'ma gonna lay down my life
for my Lord
1744
02:12:14,880 --> 02:12:17,952
Yes, I'ma gonna lay down, lay down
1745
02:12:18,040 --> 02:12:21,192
I'ma gonna lay down, lay down
1746
02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:28,153
I know I'm gonna lay down my life
for my Lord