1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:00,440 Tank now. See 2 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,000 SARAH HARRIS: Tonight... 3 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,720 ROBERT: I'm super excited. Yes! 4 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:05,880 Wow. ..strong pitches... 5 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:07,240 Man, you're good. You're good. 6 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,400 Yeah! ..had the Sharks in stitches. 7 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,800 This here is called a Poonami Protector. 8 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,440 (LAUGHS) Great name! 9 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,600 But as the Tank gets festive... Christmas is big business. 10 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:20,800 Ooh! 11 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,160 ..the Sharks get serious... 12 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,960 This is hard-earned cash of ours. Don't discredit the money. 13 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,080 I don't buy that explanation. Oh! 14 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,040 Don't make that face at me. (LAUGHS) 15 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,000 ..as our investors go in search... 16 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,240 I love it. Whoo-whee! Let's go. 17 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,920 That's how it's done. 18 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,000 ..of the next big deal. 19 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,520 $12.5 million! 20 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,040 What is going on? (LAUGHS) 21 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,640 (THEME MUSIC) 22 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,760 First into the Tank is mum of two Aami Mills from Canberra 23 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,280 with her baby-focused brand. 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,560 Four out of the five Sharks are parents themselves, 25 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,960 so I'm hoping that the odds are on my side 26 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:33,800 and they love my product. 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,600 SABRI: Davie, have you ever changed a nappy? 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,560 No. (CHUCKLES) 29 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,800 Did you change any nappies, or... All the time. I was right in there. 30 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,200 Absolutely. You got to be. 31 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,200 Yeah. 32 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,560 (TENSE MUSIC) 33 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,160 Hi, Sharks, my name is Aami, and I'm the owner and founder 34 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,840 of Canberra's very own reusable modern cloth nappy brand 35 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,920 Mimi & Co. 36 00:02:08,920 --> 00:02:12,640 I'm here today seeking $100,000 37 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:15,840 for a 10% equity in my business. 38 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,520 This is what 6,000 39 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,600 disposable nappies look like 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,960 in landfill. 41 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,800 And this is the waste accumulated by just one baby 42 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,480 in disposable nappies. 43 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:29,600 Wow. 44 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,280 In 2020, I gave birth to my first son. 45 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,520 He was born at a teeny-tiny 2.5 kilos. 46 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:38,720 Aw! 47 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,000 He was the size of a premature baby 48 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,120 but needed the absorbency of a newborn nappy. 49 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,920 The advice that I was given - 50 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:49,200 just use two disposable nappies at once. 51 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,480 I knew there had to be a better way, 52 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,800 so I got behind my sewing machine 53 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,040 and I developed our first ever prototype. 54 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,680 Our nappies are design protected, loved by thousands, 55 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,320 and are the only modern cloth nappy on the market 56 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,680 that truly stands up to its claim of one size fits most. 57 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,000 Sharks, if you have any questions 58 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,800 or you would love to touch our products, I would love to show you. 59 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,400 Thank you. Can we see the product? Absolutely. 60 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,480 Aami, does your brand name have any meaning? 61 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:20,840 I'm Mimi. 62 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,520 No-one knows me as Aami in my life. It's a great name. 63 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:24,680 My name is Mimi. (LAUGHS) 64 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,480 Robert, I'm gonna show you what our nappy looks like... 65 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,960 Thank you. ..on a 2.5-kilo baby. 66 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,400 It's roughly the size that my baby was when he was born. 67 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:33,520 Aw! 68 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,160 Aami, hi. 69 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,360 So, I also gave birth to my son in 2020. 70 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:40,360 Yes. 71 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,360 And I also have now a six-month-old. Yep. 72 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,520 I gave the cloth nappies a go and I just... 73 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,760 I think I must have done it wrong, 'cause it just leaked pee everywhere. 74 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:50,840 Yeah, look, and... 75 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,640 This is the hardest thing about cloth nappies, right? 76 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,560 A lot of huge brands... I hated them. 77 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,160 ..the ones that you can buy really easily, 78 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,400 they're the ones that don't offer education, 79 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,720 so it's really difficult to try and know where you're going wrong. 80 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,520 Hey, Aami. Hello. 81 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,360 I've got three kids. I know all about this. 82 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,960 So, does this leak? 83 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,320 I studied a Bachelor of Forensics. 84 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,840 Forensics? Yeah! 85 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,680 Where I majored in textiles. 86 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,720 A lot of what we do here is about the absorption. 87 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,440 We have specifically chosen bamboo cotton 88 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:27,840 and hemp cotton 89 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:30,160 because they draw moisture away from baby 90 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,120 but they hold onto that wee. 91 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,240 This is what the inside of our nappy looks like. 92 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,480 This here is called a Poonami Protector. 93 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,960 (LAUGHTER) 94 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,080 (LAUGHS) Great name! 95 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,320 JANE: Yes. 96 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,080 I'm sure any of you with kids have experienced poonamis before. 97 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,080 (LAUGHS) 98 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,680 And what this does is the poo will go up 99 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:51,880 and sit into the back. 100 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,640 It's not gonna come out and up into your clothes. 101 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,640 A horrible nightmare is coming back right now! 102 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,080 And we have a Poonami Protector at the front. 103 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,640 What is going on? (LAUGHS) 104 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,000 He's triggered. 105 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,320 You haven't had to learn about poonamis yet. 106 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,360 I'm learning so much on Shark Tank. 107 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,160 So any really liquid-y poos or explosions... 108 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,480 You just horrified Davie. Yes! 109 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,280 He's the only Shark up here without kids. (LAUGHS) 110 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:20,320 I'm out of having kids. I'm still in the deal, but... 111 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,360 (SABRI LAUGHS) 112 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,640 Do you know that, whether you use disposables or reusables, 113 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,360 you're supposed to put poo in the toilet? 114 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,800 No, you're not! Read the back of your packets. 115 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,720 Wait, the baby's poop? Yes. 116 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,960 You just throw it in the garbage. No. 117 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,160 You're supposed to put it in the toilet. 118 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,360 Why? It's natural. 119 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,760 Do you poo in the garbage? 120 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:40,760 Yeah. You do? 121 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,440 Yeah. (SHARKS LAUGH) 122 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,760 I was like, "OK, you win." 123 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,560 Don't do that. I'm gonna get kicked out of Australia. 124 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,400 (LAUGHTER) 125 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,360 SARAH: Aami's pitch is proving to have some insightful revelations. 126 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,880 Davie Fogarty, the only Shark without children, 127 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:04,400 wants to explore the patents Aami has on her reusable nappies. 128 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,520 Can you explain what protection you have? 129 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,240 We have IP design protection 130 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,320 on the amount of snaps, and also what it looks like on the inside. 131 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,640 You know, the uniqueness of the snaps on the front 132 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,840 mean that you can actually go down to your 2.5-kilo baby 133 00:06:18,840 --> 00:06:21,440 by making the front even shorter. 134 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,720 So, we're trying to get as much wear out of this as we can. 135 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,120 We don't want customers to have to buy three different sets of nappies 136 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,320 to get their baby from newborn to toilet training. 137 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,880 Can you go through the past three years of sales, 138 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,280 revenue, profit, and also what you're forecasting for this year? 139 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:43,560 So, in 2021, we did $125,000 in revenue, 140 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,160 and out of that we netted $50,000. 141 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,520 ROBERT: What? SABRI: Well done. 142 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:49,840 In your first year? 143 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:51,240 Yes, and do you know why? 144 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:52,240 Why? 145 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,480 I didn't have any money. Yes, ex... I love that. 146 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,320 Oh, my gosh, I love you! 147 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,920 I had $200 and all I could do was gain capital and put it back in. 148 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,360 Yes! Yes, yes, finally! 149 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:04,760 Good job! That's all I could do. 150 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,800 That's how it's done. Bravo, Aami, bravo! 151 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,000 You speak Shark. 152 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,320 (LAUGHS) 153 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,600 What happened in the second year? What happened in year 2? 154 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,920 OK, year 2, I did $305,000... Yes! 155 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,520 ..and I netted 110,000. Wow! 156 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:25,160 This year I expect that we will do $550,000 this year. 157 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,440 You go, Aami! 158 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,720 79% of our revenue is generated by organic traffic. 159 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,880 Talk to us about paid. Have you tried paid advertising? 160 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,480 I have paid, so in 10 months, 161 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,840 I've invested $30,000 into paid advertisement. 162 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,120 Our return on investment is about 11. 163 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,120 Wow. 164 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,760 But still our main customers that visit us are organic, 165 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,560 particularly from TikTok. 166 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,280 Wow. What kind of content are you making on TikTok? 167 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,240 A lot of content that resonates with my audience. 168 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,760 I am my ideal customer. 169 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,800 (LAUGHS) Yeah. 170 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,840 So, Aami, you spent 30K on ads... Yes. 171 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,480 ..and you're getting an 11 return on ad spend. 172 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,960 Mm-hm. I have one simple question. 173 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,400 Yep. Why did you not spend more money? 174 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,600 I'm scared. I don't actually know what I'm doing. 175 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,960 Aami, how many would the average family buy? 176 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,680 24. 24 of these? How much do they cost? 177 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,840 What do they cost? So, one of these costs $36.99. 178 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,080 ROBERT: To buy? To buy. 179 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,280 Yep. That's reasonable. 180 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,280 Yep. I get these landed for $16.65. 181 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,400 (TENSE MUSIC) 182 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,960 We have a gross profit margin of 55% on these. 183 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,440 (TENSE MUSIC) 184 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,040 Your margin's not great. No, it's not. 185 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,320 But we have a lot of eco-complementary accessories 186 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,720 that do generate a lot of additional revenue. 187 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,320 So have you been selling out? Yeah. 188 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:46,960 Particular prints. 189 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,480 How many SKUs do you have? 190 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,000 In total, 95. 191 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,040 Whoa! Yeah. 192 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,320 I've got about 10 different patterns. 193 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,720 Do you think the SKUs are a limiting... 194 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,920 ..a constraint of growth or do you think... 195 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,120 Potentially, yeah. ..you just love textiles a lot? 196 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,680 When it comes to cloth nappies, right, 197 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:02,720 someone's gonna buy 24 of these. 198 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,400 The average person wants 24 different types. 199 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,440 Is that true? 200 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,400 Probably. Probably true, yeah. 201 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:10,400 You don't want the same. 202 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,000 And that was the biggest feedback that we got as we were growing 203 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,880 was, "Aami, you only have 15 different colours." 204 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,280 Aami, I love you so much. Your energy is infectious. 205 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:20,280 (AAMI LAUGHS) 206 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:21,760 You're incredible. 207 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,400 But for me, I can't see a path where I add value. 208 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,720 For that reason I'm out. Thank you. 209 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,640 And, Aami, 210 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:34,840 I love that you are the Modibodi of nappies. 211 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,560 I see that you are definitely solving a problem. 212 00:09:37,560 --> 00:09:43,520 However, I don't know that I am the best Shark for you 213 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,160 to support it, unfortunately, for this investment. 214 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,720 I'm out. 215 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,880 Thank you. Aami. 216 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,560 (TENSE MUSIC) 217 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,480 I am kind of thinking, "Am I in or am I out?" 218 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,720 The real opportunity for you 219 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:07,280 is going to be in simplifying the number of SKUs that you've got. 220 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,640 And I think that there would be some Sharks that would be able 221 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,200 to help you do that better than I would be able to help you do that. 222 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,800 And so for that reason I'll have to be out. 223 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,760 Oh! Oh! I was hoping you were... 224 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,160 I thought you were coming to... I thought you were gonna twist it. 225 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,200 Mimi, you are running into a trap with these SKUs. 226 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:35,760 And that's where I can help you. 227 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:40,040 But I am gonna need a mum to come in with me, 228 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,160 specifically Jane, 229 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,800 because she has this audience with her Facebook group. 230 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,280 So if Jane will come in with me, 231 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:53,920 we'll do $100,000, but I'd need 35% of the business. 232 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,240 Whoa! Whoa! 233 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,400 You're stealing her baby. 234 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,120 (TENSE MUSIC) 235 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,320 I can help you. 236 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,840 But I am gonna need a mum to come in with me. 237 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,880 So if Jane will come in with me, 238 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:22,120 we'll do $100,000, but I'd need 35% of the business. 239 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:23,400 Whoa! Whoa! 240 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,840 SARAH: Aami Mills is hoping to secure 241 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,120 a $100,000 investment 242 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,440 for 10% equity in her reusable nappy business. 243 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,200 She has one offer on the table from Davie Fogarty, 244 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,160 who's keen to bring another Shark in on the deal. 245 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,200 I am keen to get in on that offer, 246 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,120 and I think it's a really fair offer. 247 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,000 (TENSE MUSIC) 248 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,720 What do you think? 249 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,760 I'm gonna counter. 250 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,440 Would you be willing to do $100,000 for 30% 251 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,240 and a $50,000 line of credit 252 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,560 for me to be able to work through inventory 253 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:07,280 and replenish that as I can? 254 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,280 So you're reducing the percent by 5% 255 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,440 and you're adding a $50,000 line of credit as well. 256 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,360 JANE AND CATRIONA: That's Sharky. Wow! 257 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,080 I need that to be able to scale. 258 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,800 And I don't want our profits to be limited 259 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,440 by the fact that I don't have capital. 260 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,920 Our profits. (LAUGHS) Yeah, our profits. 261 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,040 It is our profits, right? 262 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,960 You are a Shark, lady. 263 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,240 (TENSE MUSIC) 264 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,720 So, the answer is no to the line of credit, 265 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,640 but I will come down to 30%. 266 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,160 OK. $100,000. 267 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,040 OK. 15% each. 15%. 268 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,600 $100,000. Yeah. 269 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,480 (TENSE MUSIC) 270 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:55,920 Let's do it. 271 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,080 Yes! Amazing! 272 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,800 I love what you're doing. I love the cause. It's amazing. 273 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,560 SARAH: An investment win for Aami, and a win for the environment too. 274 00:13:05,560 --> 00:13:07,680 Well done, Aami. Well done, Aami. 275 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:10,560 And Davie, you can babysit. Yeah, awesome. 276 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:12,680 You can experience the first poonami. 277 00:13:12,680 --> 00:13:14,800 (SHARKS LAUGH) 278 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,880 AAMI: The one Shark that doesn't have children, 279 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,440 the one that I thought was least likely to invest, 280 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,040 put his hand up and said, "I'm willing to invest." 281 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,720 But now I've walked out with two amazing Sharks 282 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,920 which are gonna help me bring my brand and my products 283 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:27,920 to the next level. 284 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,320 (CHRISTMAS MUSIC WITH SLEIGH BELLS) 285 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,520 SARAH: Katie Rawal from NSW 286 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,400 is looking for global festive domination 287 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,000 with her business idea. 288 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,800 I'm the first person to bring this product to market in Australia, 289 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,360 and it's been a long time coming. 290 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,240 Hello, Sharks. 291 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,800 My name is Katie, and I'm proud to present my brand, 292 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,280 Holiday Celebration Trees. 293 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:14,880 I'm seeking $300,000 in exchange for 15% of my company. 294 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,080 Christmas is the most wonderful time of the year, 295 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,960 and nothing captures the holiday spirit better 296 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,240 than a beautifully decorated Christmas tree. 297 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,560 My vision is to revolutionise 298 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,000 the way people decorate for the holidays. 299 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,120 I wanted to create a space-saving and functional Christmas tree 300 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,800 that still retains the traditional shape and nostalgia 301 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,920 of the Christmas trees we all know and love. 302 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,600 And that's why I'm here today, 303 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,240 seeking your investment and your expertise 304 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,160 to help me take this brand to the next level. 305 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,800 Thank you so much for your time, 306 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,720 and I'm happy to answer any questions. 307 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,400 Hey, Katie, I'm Davie. Great pitch. Hi, Davie. 308 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,360 So, can you run us through how the tree works a little bit more? 309 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,680 It's all different components, they do connect in the same way, 310 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,920 so you can assemble the tree any height that you like. 311 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,920 It's made up of a series of five platforms, 312 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,320 but as you can see, 313 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,480 if you choose to assemble it for something different, 314 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,200 like the champagne tree, 315 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,280 you can utilise the same components 316 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,160 to make it two levels or the full five-level height. 317 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,280 How do you make it... ensure it doesn't look sad 318 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:27,600 if it's a bit empty? 319 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,360 Well, it can be used for anything, 320 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,600 so you can use it for Christmas villages, 321 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,640 you can use it for presents, you can use it for toys, 322 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:36,680 anything you like. 323 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,400 Will it look nice if it had just random stuff on it? 324 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:45,240 Um, you could add other things behind it, I guess. 325 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,200 (TENSE MUSIC) 326 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,000 What's the price? 327 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,520 The average retail price is $680. 328 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,200 Wow. Wow! 329 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,640 What's your cost to make one? 330 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,880 At the moment it's $240. 331 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,360 $240. Wow. 332 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,040 Isn't it just plastic? 333 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,920 So, the platforms are actually recycled plastic 334 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,760 and metal accessories. 335 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,440 There's actually a lot of engineering 336 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,720 that's gone into this tree to keep it stable. 337 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,480 I also have an approved design patent in Australia 338 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,040 and a pending patent in the US and Canada. 339 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,640 Huh. 340 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,240 Run us through what your sales are like. 341 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,240 The business in its first year of operation 342 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,880 did $360,000 in revenue. 343 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:29,880 Wow. 344 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,960 Whoa. What was the net profit on that? 345 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,800 Last year the net profit was 23%. 346 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,200 This year, forecasting sales of 1.2 million. 347 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,640 Wow. 348 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,680 Next year, 2.7, 349 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,240 and the year after that it jumps to 4.95 million. 350 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,160 Whoa! 351 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,800 How are you forecasting that out? 352 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,520 I sold through the amount of product that I ordered last year. 353 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:56,680 When I sold out, 354 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,920 I added the option for people to sign up to a waitlist 355 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,880 to be alerted when the product came back into stock. 356 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,080 When I did that, I got 7,000 email addresses. 357 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,080 Wow. 358 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,360 I also only had the snow tree last year, 359 00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:14,840 and this year I'm launching the green tree. 360 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,360 My research shows that the green tree sells traditionally 361 00:17:18,360 --> 00:17:21,800 2.5 times better than a white flocked tree. 362 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:22,920 It's true. 363 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,440 If you take the numbers of last year, don't assume any growth, 364 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,880 and add the green tree, you get to the 1.2 million. 365 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,120 How are you selling these trees? 366 00:17:32,120 --> 00:17:35,800 This is direct to consumer via my own branded website. 367 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,440 Is it just you, Katie, in the business? 368 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,200 It is just me. 369 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,560 What do you think the biggest constraint is 370 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:43,560 for you to get there? 371 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:44,680 Capital. 372 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,160 I agree. It's gonna be so seasonally intensive. 373 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,560 Yeah. 374 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,880 And if you mis-forecast one season, 375 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,960 you can practically be out of business. 376 00:17:54,360 --> 00:17:58,200 How much of your sales today are in the commercial application? 377 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,640 Zero percent. Zero. 378 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,680 The one thing that amazes me... 379 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,920 (TENSE MUSIC) 380 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,480 ..my neighbour in Newport, California, 381 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,640 owns one of the largest malls in California. 382 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,800 Could you not see this in every store in a retail mall? 383 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,280 Like, how would you go to market in the commercial space? 384 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,120 That's a really good question, and I guess that's why I'm here. 385 00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:26,560 I need the expertise of someone who's been there before 386 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,560 to help me to build it to that eight-, nine-figure potential. 387 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:34,920 And, Katie, are you saying 388 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,800 that there is no other Christmas tree on the market 389 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,240 that has shelves on it like this? 390 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,360 Correct. In the world. 391 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,560 I think it's a great product. I can see myself buying it. 392 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,080 But I just don't see myself investing $300,000 today 393 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,680 in such a seasonal business. 394 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,120 For those reasons, I'm sorry, but I'm out. 395 00:18:56,120 --> 00:18:58,800 Thank you so much. I appreciate it. 396 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,000 You don't really have a business, you have a product, right? 397 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,600 And for the $2 million valuation, 398 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,160 it's just a little bit too early for me to come on this journey with you. 399 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,680 So for those reasons, I'm out. 400 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,720 Thank you so much. 401 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,280 Katie, at the moment, globally, 402 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:20,920 less than 3% of any venture capital goes to women-led businesses, 403 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,600 so I am really hoping 404 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:29,240 that you will get a deal today to increase that percentage. 405 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,120 It's not the business for me, so I'm out, 406 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:39,640 but I'm really hoping you might negotiate with these Sharks. 407 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,560 Thank you so much. Thank you. 408 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:46,040 There is so much risk with this. It's so early. 409 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,160 (TENSE MUSIC) 410 00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:51,960 You're obviously an incredible marketer. 411 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,400 You're wearing a dress that matches the Christmas tree. 412 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,040 Completely. I'm glad you picked up on it. 413 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,760 And Christmas is a big business. 414 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,040 So I'm gonna make an offer. 415 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,400 Ooh. 416 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,760 I'll do $300,000 for 30%, 417 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,640 but we need to convince Robert to come along as well. 418 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,520 So we'll split that 300,000. 419 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,160 I will plug you in 420 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,760 to the Australian distribution that we have for The Oodie, 421 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,200 I'll support you with all the digital stuff, 422 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,520 he'll handle all retail, 423 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,400 and we can scale it that way. 424 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,560 Um, first of all... 425 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,800 ..when you came out, I was so not interested. 426 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:31,800 (LAUGHS) 427 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,560 I was like, "Eh." 428 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:39,800 It's a flat piece of plastic or metal with some trim around it. 429 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,680 The more you talk, you're reeling me in. I'm fascin... 430 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,760 There's a massive opportunity here, I'm telling you. 431 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,360 I'm super excited. 432 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,040 So I'll go in with Davie on 300,000 for 30%, 433 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,120 150,000 for each of us, 434 00:20:58,120 --> 00:21:01,360 with a $25 royalty 435 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:02,560 until we recover 436 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,520 30% of our original investment. 437 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,520 Oh, it's a lot to think about. 438 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,080 Don't you think that's fair? 439 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,520 Don't make that face at me! (SHARKS LAUGH) 440 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,960 This is the Christmas sweater king. Yeah, that's true. 441 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,280 In the US, I invested in a company called Tipsy Elves 442 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,000 that made inappropriate, ugly Christmas sweaters. 443 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,520 It's a fun lifestyle brand. 444 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,680 We'll do $125 million this year. 445 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,600 Wow! 446 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,880 Christmas is huge. 447 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,920 Holidays are huge in America. 448 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,680 Look, I'm here to do a deal. 449 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,240 Would you consider lowering your equity stake 450 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,640 to 20%? 451 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,640 (TENSE MUSIC) 452 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,120 No. 453 00:21:57,120 --> 00:22:01,520 I think... I'm gonna stick to the 30%. 454 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,160 (INHALES SHARPLY) 455 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,200 Would you consider... 456 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,280 ..lowering your equity stake to 20%? 457 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,280 No. 458 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,720 I think I'm gonna stick to the 30%. 459 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,000 Davie? 460 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,760 Yep. 30%. 461 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,840 I've...I've put so much of myself into this brand 462 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,880 and I really wanna see it succeed. 463 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,080 And so I'm excited to say I wanna do the deal. 464 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,280 Amazing. 465 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,720 I wasn't sure what you were gonna say! 466 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,960 SARAH: A festive deal has been struck. 467 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,280 Katie joins forces with Davie Fogarty and Robert Herjavec 468 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,600 to elevate her seasonal business, 469 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,800 Holiday Celebration Trees. 470 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,640 There was a moment I thought... 471 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,640 When Jane pulled out, I thought, "Oh, my gosh, I've lost this." 472 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,400 But yeah, I can't believe I managed to get a deal. 473 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,320 I'm just really looking forward to spreading holiday cheer 474 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,240 across the world with Davie and Robert. 475 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,960 Hoping to unleash his product across the world 476 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,440 is 29-year-old engineering student Ming Ye 477 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,880 who is keen to shake up a growing transportation industry. 478 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,960 Going into the Shark Tank today means a lot to me. 479 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,000 I've been watching this show before I started the company. 480 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,960 I can't believe I'm here now. 481 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,840 ROBERT: Do you own one of these, Sabri? 482 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,040 I certainly do. I own many of them. 483 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,160 Aren't there thousands of these? 484 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,640 There are. There are so many. 485 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,760 And thousands of manufacturers? 486 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,640 And thousands of competitors? 487 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,800 But that means there'll be something special about this. 488 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,920 Oh! AI. 489 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,680 (LAUGHS) It's...probably. 490 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,040 Yeah. 491 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,080 Hello, Sharks. My name is Ming. 492 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,200 Today I'm presenting my company, Mearth Scooters, to you. 493 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,480 I started the company six years ago 494 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,120 while I was in mechatronics engineering 495 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:48,360 in the University of Sydney. 496 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,760 Electric vehicles is the future of transportation. 497 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,440 It could bring you out of congestions during peak hours, 498 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,920 no more tolls to pay, no more parking fees. 499 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:01,400 And it could reduce your 500 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,440 transportation carbon emissions by 80%. 501 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,240 Most importantly, it is very, very fun to use 502 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,760 every single time. 503 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,200 Sharks, I'm looking for a $250,000 total investment 504 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,520 in exchange of 1.8% of my company. 505 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,520 Whoa. Wow. 506 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,640 Whoo! Whoo-ee! 507 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,040 I would love to have a Shark to join me in this exciting journey. 508 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,640 Now, who's ready for a ride to the future? 509 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,440 Alright, let's have a go. 510 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,280 Yeah! (LAUGHS) I thought you'd never ask. 511 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,680 Oh, you need a helmet. You need a helmet. 512 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,160 Alright. Let's get helmets. 513 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:40,880 SARAH: Hoping he has a smooth ride to a $250,000 investment 514 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,880 for just 1.8% of his company, 515 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,880 can Ming convince the Sharks 516 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,040 there'll be no bumps in the road? 517 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,760 Give a kick and then... Oh, you got it. 518 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,440 Whoa! 519 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,040 Oh, go, Sabs. Sabri knows what he's doing. 520 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,720 SABRI: And this one has, like, a very unique noise to it. 521 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,800 CATRIONA: I like the noise. 522 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,000 (SCOOTERS ZOOM) 523 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,520 Whoo! (LAUGHS) 524 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,280 Gone the wrong way! 'Bye, Davie. 525 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,080 Hey! 526 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,760 That's pretty good. 527 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,800 Very fun. Very fun. 528 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,120 SARAH: With the product tried and tested by the Sharks, 529 00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:22,560 Sabri Suby is keen to understand 530 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,680 Mearth Scooters' unique selling point. 531 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,440 I've got three kids. 532 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,680 We ride electric scooters. 533 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,080 Can you tell us a little bit about how these are different 534 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,520 from all the existing e-scooters that are on the market right now? 535 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,600 Of course. So first of all, Mearth is very innovative. 536 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,160 We were the first one who adapt 537 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,680 the 21700 battery cells in an e-scooter in Australia. 538 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,160 That means the entire scooter will be lighter, 539 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,760 will be more powerful, it can go further away, faster charging. 540 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,760 SABRI: But do all manufacturers of e-scooters 541 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,320 have access to that battery? 542 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,440 Eventually, most of them will get into that technology. 543 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,080 So how many other scooter brands on the market right now 544 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,840 are currently using that battery technology? 545 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,760 Right now, I would say, uh...a few. 546 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,480 Are there other benefits to your scooter? 547 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:06,960 Yes, of course. 548 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,640 For example, this one's got a removable battery design. 549 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,960 So you can just unclick and take the battery out, 550 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,440 leave the scooter behind. 551 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,600 Just take the much smaller battery with you, 552 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,160 charge it under your desk. 553 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,720 That's it. No other scooter has that? 554 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,640 On same price range, no. 555 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,680 Is that something that you've tried to patent? 556 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,320 Do you have any kind of intellectual property around this product? 557 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,560 No, we've decided not to go with the patent because...for a few reasons. 558 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,560 We have to improve our design on a yearly basis. 559 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,120 It would cost us a fortune. 560 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:38,200 But you can still get a patent for... 561 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,200 Something. 562 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,760 ..like, the method of inserting it 563 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,160 into, like, that cylinder for the electric scooter, right? 564 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,520 And then that can apply to the future models. 565 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,400 SARAH: Lack of patent aside, 566 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,440 Robert Herjavec is keen to get down to the numbers. 567 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,800 Ming, what do they cost? 568 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,160 For this one, we're selling this one for $700. 569 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,760 They will cost us... Our profit margin is about 100%. 570 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,720 Is that the entry level? Yes. 571 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,960 Sorry, what's your cost on it? 572 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,800 That would be around 350. 573 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,040 And what's your selling price for the big one? 574 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,640 For the most expensive one, that would be $4,000. 575 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,920 JANE: Wow! 576 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,440 Let's not move on from that valuation, right? 577 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,760 'Cause you're asking for $250,000 578 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,480 for 1.8%. 579 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,320 That is one crazy valuation. 580 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:31,520 You're valuing your company at $12.5 million! 581 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:32,920 Yep. 582 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,800 So unpack that for us. 583 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,000 Uh... 584 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:52,480 You're valuing your company at $12.5 million! 585 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,400 SARAH: Engineer Ming Ye 586 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,640 has come into the Tank seeking investment 587 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,240 of $250,000 588 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,800 in return for just 1.8% of his business, 589 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,080 a valuation the Sharks are finding a little hard to swallow. 590 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,600 So unpack that for us. 591 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,880 So we had approximately $1 million in sales, slightly under, 592 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,360 two years ago. 593 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,480 Two years ago. 594 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,080 Two years ago. Last year, we had 3.5 million sales. 595 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,080 JANE: Wow! 596 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,080 And this year, we're expecting to have 2 millions more, 597 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,480 reaching 5.5 millions. 598 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,480 Go, Ming! 599 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,080 And selling in... 600 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,240 Australia only. ..Australia only. 601 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,760 Well done! 602 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,560 And what's your profit on that? 603 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,200 The gross profit is approximately 40% to 45%. 604 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,880 Wow! 605 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,400 To get from 3.5 million in sales 606 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,240 to a valuation of 12.5 607 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,720 at, like, almost a four times multiple, 608 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,680 like, that's...that's a lot. 609 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,120 I don't like capital-intensive businesses that require 610 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,600 a lot of R&D. 611 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,280 And I think the valuation just doesn't factor in all the risks 612 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,600 that are associated... 613 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,360 Right. ..with growing a business. 614 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,720 So for a retail consumer product, we can't just look at 615 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,400 what do we think the future sales could be? 616 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,280 You have to actually look at what past sales were. 617 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,000 And so for this investment, I'm out. 618 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,200 Thank you, Jane. 619 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,800 I'm a little bit challenged with your valuation. 620 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,640 It seems a little bit high, as my sister, Jane, said. 621 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,720 I might become a customer, but today, unfortunately, 622 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,840 I won't be investing. 623 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,960 So for those reasons, I'm out. 624 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,240 Thank you very much. 625 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,320 Ming, when I look at an investment, 626 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,040 I look at...the entrepreneur, 627 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,000 and you're amazing. 628 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,680 I look at the track record. Amazing. 629 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,080 What worries me about this business is 630 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,040 a big competitor may come along and change the entire game 631 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,240 with a better battery or something 632 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,880 and then my company and my money 633 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,200 is sad. 634 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,840 I don't want my money to be sad. 635 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,680 I'm out. 636 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,480 Thank you, Robert. 637 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,040 100,000 or so in net profit, you said. 638 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,040 Right. 639 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,400 But you're valuing the business at $12 million. 640 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,880 Right, because we have retailers across Australia, 641 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,120 including some big names like Harvey Norman, 642 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,880 Decathlon, Bing Lee. 643 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,680 And not just that - one of the things we're proud of is 644 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,880 we have a licence with a superhero IP 645 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,080 that we'll be making the classic... 646 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,360 ..one of the classic superhero mobiles. 647 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,840 Oh, that's cool! 648 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,920 You mean like a superhero character? Right. 649 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,080 Like a Batman scooter. 650 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,000 SARAH: With three Sharks already putting the brakes on investment, 651 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,360 will news of Ming's superhero licensing deal 652 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,360 have the power to sway the remaining Sharks, 653 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,400 Davie Fogarty or Sabri Suby? 654 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,960 What are your thoughts on that, Davie? 655 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,120 I think the licensing idea is genius. 656 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,160 I think you have a cracking business here 657 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,360 just by doing those licensing, connecting with new audiences, 658 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,200 so I think there's definitely that play. 659 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,840 I just don't know when I would get the cash flow from the business 660 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,320 to pay back the investment. 661 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,360 Unfortunately, 662 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,320 I'm out. 663 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,320 Thank you. 664 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,320 When I saw you walk on in here, 665 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,880 and I saw this product, 666 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,720 clearly a very, very talented engineer. 667 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,000 But for me, I'm the marketing guy, right? 668 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,560 And when I look at this product and I look at 669 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,960 what is out there on the market, 670 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,440 these do look very close to the other ones. 671 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,760 They're priced at a similar price point. 672 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,240 So when I think about being 673 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,160 in the shoes of the consumer for this product, 674 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,160 it becomes very, very difficult 675 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,120 to try and convince that consumer 676 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,640 of the value proposition that we have in front of us. 677 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,920 So for those reasons, I'm out. 678 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,520 Thank you. 679 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,040 Thanks, Ming. Thanks, Ming. 680 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,520 Thank you very much. Great product. 681 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,840 Thank you, mate. Good job. 682 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:04,880 Thank you. See you, mate. 683 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,960 SARAH: Despite a promising pitch from Ming, 684 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,520 he leaves the Tank with nothing. 685 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,160 It was amazing to meet the Sharks in person. 686 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,720 Bit sad that I don't have a deal with them. 687 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,120 I think the Shark has missed out an opportunity. 688 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,560 I hope to do business with them in the future. 689 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,680 Amadou Doumbia 690 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,400 is next to dive into the tank 691 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,040 and knows exactly what his business needs. 692 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,240 I truly believe the marketing genius of 693 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,880 King Kong, Sabri, is what the business deserves 694 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,480 to get to the next level. 695 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,560 I have been working hard, exponentially, 696 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,560 over the last few years to get this business going. 697 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,480 So I'm feeling extremely pumped. 698 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,560 I believe this opportunity can change my life today. 699 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,680 Hi, Sharks! My name is Amadou and I'm from Wuli Grooming. 700 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,440 Today I'm seeking $150,000 701 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,160 for 15% equity in my business. 702 00:34:11,720 --> 00:34:13,240 With this cream, 703 00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:14,960 I started my dream. 704 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,040 It was created from the fact that I realised 705 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,200 there wasn't enough styling products out there in the market 706 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,200 that were well suited for curly- and wavy-haired folks of the world. 707 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,440 And my thought process was if you can create something 708 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,040 for the most sensitive of hair types first, 709 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,920 you can create an entire range for everybody in the process. 710 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,080 So Wuli Grooming is a range of all-natural, 711 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,680 Australian-made hairstyling products for both men and women 712 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,160 that's 100% vegan. 713 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,160 And I'd like to share with you guys and see how you feel about them. 714 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,160 Please. 715 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,040 So first I'll start with you, Robert. Hello! 716 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,440 This is our sea salt spray, and that's neroli & sweet orange. 717 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,880 This is our sea salt spray in bergamot & vanilla. 718 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,120 Hello, Davie. This is our bergamot curl cream. 719 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,160 The matte balm is ideal for you, Davie. 720 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,640 The matte balm? The matte balm. 721 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,280 Because of your finer hair texture, 722 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,120 I created a perfect solution for you as well. 723 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,120 I hope you have a perfect solution for me. 724 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,760 I can't work miracles, unfortunately. 725 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,720 (LAUGHS) Ohh! Boom. 726 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:10,160 Is there a little bit of an accent that we're hearing? 727 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,640 I was born in Mali, 728 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,240 but I grew up in America, New York City, most of my life. 729 00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:15,240 Right. 730 00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:17,120 And the name 'Wuli' actually comes from my culture. 731 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,040 It actually comes from the dialect Bambara, 732 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,960 which is the main dialect of Mali, 733 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,440 and it means 'to wake up, get up and grow up'. 734 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:24,920 The whole ethos of the brand 735 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,480 is to really awaken the best version of yourself every day. 736 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,480 Mmm. 737 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,000 When did you start the business? 738 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,720 Been in business now for about 16 months. 739 00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:33,320 Yeah. A little over. 740 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,440 When we launched, we actually did the markets. 741 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,680 We've done virtually all the markets in Sydney, 742 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,080 from Kirribilli, the Shire, Bondi. 743 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,320 But at the same time, we've got an e-commerce store 744 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,680 which I launched at the same time as the business. 745 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,680 Amadou. Hi! 746 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,120 First of all, the packaging, the branding is great. 747 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,240 This smells incredible, right? Thank you. Thank you. 748 00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:55,160 So can you tell us a little bit about the product, how it works? 749 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,640 Is this a before-and-after photo we can see here? 750 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,360 When you have curly hair in particular, 751 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,800 the things you are really fighting every day is frizz, 752 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,800 breakage, knots, 753 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,000 everything that the elements throw at you. 754 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,880 This stops that process happening in the tracks. 755 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,480 What it does is, as you can see, 756 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,320 it keeps those curls nice and soft and defined. 757 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,080 Do you have a sales background? No. 758 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,160 You're amazing. You fooled me. 759 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,440 So this takes about an hour and a half 760 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,160 to calm all this down and get it looking like this. 761 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,800 And I struggle with all the problems that you have mentioned. 762 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,920 Nothing yet has really nailed it for me. 763 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,280 People are still not really quite understanding 764 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,000 what goes into looking after curly hair properly. 765 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,680 I designed this brand to be as lazy-proof as possible. 766 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,720 OK. I'm lazy. I'm hair-lazy. 767 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:45,440 Jane, are you hair-lazy? 768 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,240 I'm...lazy in general. (OTHERS LAUGH) 769 00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:50,880 She's the lazy CEO over there. The CEO! (LAUGHS) 770 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,080 But nobody has the same high level 771 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,960 of active ingredients in their products like I do 772 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,360 and that's really one of the biggest things that makes mine different. 773 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:00,360 So I'm interested to know 774 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,720 what price do you charge for these products. 775 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:06,280 Sure, they are retailed at 34.95 Australian for the sea salt spray, 776 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,080 44.95 for the curl cream and the matte balms. 777 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,040 And in terms of cost, 778 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,120 they are priced currently at 8.95 779 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,040 for the sea salt spray, to produce one unit, 780 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,720 and $11.26 for the matte balm and the shine balm. 781 00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:21,840 OK. I assume that with the sea salt spray and the balm, 782 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,320 you sell them as a bundle with... 783 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,960 I...I do. Tell me about that, my man. 784 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,920 I call it the Crown of Curls Bundle. Hoo-ee! Let's go. 785 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,840 It is my best seller of all 786 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,480 and that retails for 69.95. 787 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,800 69.95. So 71% margin. 788 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,960 Whoa. 789 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,120 Amadou, when you were selling... 790 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,720 In the last year, you said you were at the markets. 791 00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:42,880 Yep. 792 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,760 And you also said you were selling online. 793 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,960 Mmm. Did you have sales? 794 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,720 This year, we've generated so far 795 00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:51,560 $23,000 in sales 796 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,800 and we're on target to be hitting $150,000 this year in revenue. 797 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,480 What percentage was online, what percentage was in the market? 798 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,000 I'll be honest with you - the percentage online was small. 799 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,560 The percentage online was roughly about 800 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,440 I'd say 15-20% of all of our total sales. 801 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,360 You are an amazing salesman. 802 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,800 You're one of the best salespeople we've had on the show. 803 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,160 Period. True. 804 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,800 It's unbelievable - I've never had somebody say to me, 805 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,320 "I have very low sales," in such a nice way. 806 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,640 (LAUGHS) And I'm still so excited! 807 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,200 But tell me how you're gonna scale. 808 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,240 I firmly believe the professional approach 809 00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:30,760 is the right approach to go to. 810 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,040 When people are trying new styling products in particular, 811 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,320 they wanna be able to get that buy-in from their hairdresser 812 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,320 to really feel confident about the products that they're buying. 813 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,400 So I buy that. So how are you gonna get to those people? 814 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,000 Working through distributors. 815 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,680 I've been actually having conversations with distributors 816 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,680 who have that element of the game sorted out. 817 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,360 (EXHALES DEEPLY) 818 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,960 But I also know my knowledge is limited. 819 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,400 For me, part of the equation is you. 820 00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:00,960 But the other part of the equation is the business. 821 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,880 Yeah. You did 33,000 in the first year. 822 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,000 You didn't do any of it online. 823 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,800 You're only selling at markets. 824 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,600 But you're telling me 825 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,040 that the business is worth about a million dollars 826 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,720 a year in. 827 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,120 Fully cold on the numbers, 828 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,880 why is it worth a million dollars? 829 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,560 I would say because of the scale of distribution 830 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,120 that we have in the pipeline, working on. 831 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,480 It's gonna be a slow start. I have to be honest about that. 832 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,320 But the potential is what's there 833 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,200 to be able to reach that million-dollar valuation, 834 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,440 in my honest belief, within a year's time. 835 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,200 Yeah, I... 836 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,240 I don't buy that explanation. 837 00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:44,360 OK. 838 00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:48,520 I would invest in you all day long. 839 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,000 But I don't buy the explanation for the business. 840 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,480 I'm out. 841 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:56,680 Thank you, Robert. 842 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,360 Amadou, believe it or not, 843 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,200 I've actually sold hair products before online. 844 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,000 You're kidding! What? 845 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,800 I was selling shampoo. Yep. 846 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,760 There are just so many products... 847 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,160 That's right. ..on the market. 848 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,640 We needed to make it unique. 849 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,520 We turned it into a kit, packaged it completely different. 850 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,160 And we got it to about $200,000 a month 851 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,680 and it was still just a brutally competitive market 852 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,800 and it just wasn't scaling how I would have hoped. 853 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,120 So I'm personally scarred about this...this product. 854 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,600 Ohh! 855 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,760 I'd love to invest in you, but I don't wanna invest in this. 856 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:31,760 I'm out. 857 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,480 Thank you, Davie. Appreciate that. 858 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:35,840 JANE: Amadou... 859 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,360 I love any product that's lazy-proof. 860 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,040 That sounds great. 861 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,080 But I don't love... 862 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,680 Like Robert, I don't love the valuation. 863 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,280 For that reason, I'm out. 864 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,320 And, Amadou, you know, I was kinda gonna try and see if I can 865 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,920 get in here, because I love you and I love your product. 866 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,240 But unfortunately, the business, at this stage, is not for me. 867 00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:06,120 So I'm out. 868 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,120 I understand. 869 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,720 If there's one thing I can quickly say 870 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:10,200 before, Sabri, you also give your feedback, 871 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,800 when I came here today, 872 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,040 the money was part... was obviously a big goal of mine, 873 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,240 but the bigger goal was really the opportunity 874 00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:19,400 of learning and possibly mentorship from you Sharks. 875 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,600 That was really the big thing that was sold on me. 876 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:26,080 'Cause I know that would be far more valuable to me than anything else. 877 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,080 Why haven't you factored that into your valuation today? 878 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,880 Why didn't I? Yeah. 879 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,920 I suppose... (SIGHS) 880 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,200 I suppose I didn't factor that into the valuation 881 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,680 because I was thinking about 882 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,000 what would be a number that actually looks like 883 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,920 an impressive investment opportunity for you guys, 884 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,400 if I'm genuinely honest. 885 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:53,280 Don't discredit the money and say, "I'm just here for the mentoring." 886 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,280 I can either give you $150,000 887 00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:01,400 or I can give my five children's inheritance $150,000. 888 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,400 This is hard-earned cash of ours 889 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,120 and we want something that we really feel good about. 890 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,560 And we want to give our money to good businesses 891 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,280 and we want you to take our money... 892 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,280 Yeah. 893 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,040 ..if it's a really good deal for us and for you. 894 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,360 Let me tell you where I stand. 895 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,760 When you walked in, I saw this up there. 896 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,720 I was like, "Man, I love the packaging. 897 00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:25,200 "Love the branding. 898 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,400 "This is a product that I can get behind." 899 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,240 I was so excited by that, right? 900 00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,920 I come from a huge family. I have seven aunties. 901 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,160 Yep. 33 first cousins. 902 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,520 And all of them have hair that look like that, right? 903 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,080 ROBERT: Are you kidding? No. 904 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,520 Then you started to speak. 905 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,920 And it was like magic to my ears. 906 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,880 And then, you know, the valuation that you're giving your business... 907 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,560 ..was a bit of a kick. 908 00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:01,960 (EXHALES DEEPLY) 909 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,120 SARAH: Watch everyday Aussies go after their business dreams 910 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,120 with full episodes of Shark Tank Australia 911 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,600 on 10 play. 912 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,320 SARAH: Amadou is in the Tank 913 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,520 hoping to entice the Sharks 914 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,600 to invest $150,000 915 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,480 into his vegan hair-care business. 916 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,400 Despite being praised for his pitch, 917 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,480 four of the five Sharks are out. 918 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:43,840 Sabri Suby is Amadou's last chance of an investment. 919 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,080 Let me tell you where I stand. 920 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,760 When you walked in, I saw this up there. 921 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,840 I was like, "Man, I love the packaging. 922 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,600 "Love the branding. 923 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,200 "This is a product that I can get behind." 924 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,480 I was so excited by that, right? 925 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,880 I come from a huge family. I have seven aunties. 926 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,400 Yep. 33 first cousins. 927 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,000 And all of them have hair that look like that, right? 928 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,880 Then you started to speak. 929 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,000 And it was like magic to my ears. 930 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,440 (EXHALES DEEPLY) 931 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,600 But I can see that you're a winner. 932 00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:30,640 (CHUCKLES) 933 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,880 I can see that 934 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,840 you're obviously willing to roll up your sleeves 935 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,320 and do the hard work. 936 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,840 You've been out there hustling at the markets. 937 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,560 This is going to be a slog. 938 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,120 Yeah. 939 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,560 I am gonna make you an offer. 940 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,600 I will offer you... 941 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,200 ..all of the money... 942 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,040 ..but I will need 45% of the business... 943 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,120 ..and a $2 royalty... 944 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,120 ..until the money's paid back. 945 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,560 Wow. OK. 946 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,480 Can I have a minute to think about that? 947 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,960 Shh! 948 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,720 (WHISPERS INDISTINCTLY) 949 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,840 Hmm. 950 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,680 SABRI: 951 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,560 Yep. 952 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,640 Sabri, thank you for that offer. 953 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,360 Would you consider a counteroffer... 954 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,440 ..of 30% equity for 150,000 955 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,120 with the royalties inclusive? 956 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,440 I...I just can't go down to 30%. 957 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,920 I know how much work's gonna be required from myself 958 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,760 and how much mentorship is gonna go into it. 959 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,440 But I will meet you at 40%. 960 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,280 OK. 961 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:58,600 Deal. 962 00:46:58,600 --> 00:46:59,880 Yay! 963 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,320 ROBERT: Yeah! 964 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,240 Well done. You did a great job. We're gonna blow this up. 965 00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:06,040 Thank you so much. We're gonna blow this up. 966 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,760 Terrific. 967 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,240 It's happening! It is. 968 00:47:09,240 --> 00:47:11,040 We're gonna go out, blow this thing up. 969 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,640 That was awesome. 970 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,280 See you guys! 'Bye! 971 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,760 SARAH: He's done it. 972 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,240 After a heated pitch in the Tank, 973 00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:21,040 king of grooming Amadou has partnered up 974 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,520 with his dream Shark, 975 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,280 the King Kong of marketing, 976 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:25,760 Sabri Suby. 977 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,880 I feel super excited. 978 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,600 The bald man with the hair product is now my business partner. 979 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,520 (CHUCKLES)