1 00:00:01,909 --> 00:00:03,493 - Oh, my God, 2 00:00:03,503 --> 00:00:04,244 I'm getting married to a complete stranger. 3 00:00:04,254 --> 00:00:05,462 - Let's go. 4 00:00:07,165 --> 00:00:09,341 - Six weeks ago, ten courageous individuals 5 00:00:09,417 --> 00:00:11,427 risked it all to find love. 6 00:00:11,502 --> 00:00:13,086 - Pleased to meet you. - Nice to meet you. 7 00:00:13,096 --> 00:00:15,681 - They married as complete strangers. 8 00:00:15,765 --> 00:00:20,677 - You may kiss your bride. [cheers and applause] 9 00:00:20,762 --> 00:00:22,938 - I'm feeling great, I'm a married man. 10 00:00:23,023 --> 00:00:24,523 [upbeat music] 11 00:00:24,599 --> 00:00:26,358 - Last time, 12 00:00:26,434 --> 00:00:28,351 our five couples went on a retreat with the hopes 13 00:00:28,361 --> 00:00:31,938 of growing closer before that all-important Decision Day. 14 00:00:31,948 --> 00:00:33,273 [gunshot] - [yelps] 15 00:00:33,283 --> 00:00:35,442 - I'm gonna die here today. 16 00:00:35,452 --> 00:00:37,861 - Bao and Johnny. 17 00:00:37,945 --> 00:00:40,039 - I feel like level one conversations 18 00:00:40,114 --> 00:00:41,540 are working for us. 19 00:00:41,616 --> 00:00:42,875 - I think that's--that's the recipe for success. 20 00:00:44,544 --> 00:00:46,378 - Rachel and Jose. 21 00:00:46,463 --> 00:00:49,214 - I'm super happy where we're at. 22 00:00:49,290 --> 00:00:51,541 We just got to keep in mind everything that we've learned, 23 00:00:51,551 --> 00:00:54,219 you know, and what we want our end goal to be, 24 00:00:54,295 --> 00:00:56,221 you know, so we can make the right decision. 25 00:00:58,224 --> 00:00:59,892 - Myrla and Gil. 26 00:00:59,967 --> 00:01:02,052 - I wish we could have gone faster on longer trail. 27 00:01:02,062 --> 00:01:05,147 - Are you ever satisfied with anything? 28 00:01:05,223 --> 00:01:06,473 Do you feel okay with me saying that? 29 00:01:06,483 --> 00:01:08,484 - I receive it. - "I receive it." 30 00:01:08,559 --> 00:01:09,860 - You can't copy me. - [laughs] 31 00:01:10,570 --> 00:01:12,321 - Brett and Ryan. 32 00:01:12,396 --> 00:01:14,648 - I just can't make excuses for not having conversations, 33 00:01:14,732 --> 00:01:16,817 whether it's for the right intentions or not. 34 00:01:16,901 --> 00:01:18,410 - Mm-hmm. 35 00:01:18,486 --> 00:01:19,319 - There's never gonna be perfect timing for 'em. 36 00:01:19,403 --> 00:01:20,704 - Mm-hmm. 37 00:01:21,906 --> 00:01:23,406 - Michaela and Zack. 38 00:01:23,416 --> 00:01:25,000 - I don't want to ride back with you. 39 00:01:25,076 --> 00:01:26,585 - If that's the case, I'm going to leave tonight. 40 00:01:26,669 --> 00:01:28,003 - Good, bye. 41 00:01:28,079 --> 00:01:29,246 He's getting in the car. 42 00:01:29,330 --> 00:01:31,173 Ryan, if you're saying it's not helping, 43 00:01:31,249 --> 00:01:33,258 then get in the car with him 'cause he's [bleep]ing leaving. 44 00:01:33,334 --> 00:01:34,843 - He's a [bleep]ing adult. 45 00:01:34,919 --> 00:01:37,254 Like, what are we supposed to do, lay under the car? 46 00:01:37,338 --> 00:01:38,722 - Get out! [glass shatters] 47 00:01:40,433 --> 00:01:42,017 [door slams] 48 00:01:42,102 --> 00:01:44,186 [upbeat music] - Whoo! 49 00:01:44,270 --> 00:01:45,938 - And tonight, 50 00:01:46,013 --> 00:01:47,523 with only two weeks left until Decision Day... 51 00:01:47,598 --> 00:01:50,517 - I've never brought anybody here. 52 00:01:50,601 --> 00:01:52,435 - Our couples will have the opportunity 53 00:01:52,445 --> 00:01:54,613 to show their roots as they try to build 54 00:01:54,689 --> 00:01:57,366 an even stronger bond with their partner. 55 00:01:57,441 --> 00:01:58,867 - "I know you always want a glimpse 56 00:01:58,952 --> 00:02:00,944 "into the future and to know that you'll end up happy, 57 00:02:00,954 --> 00:02:03,780 "well, spoiler alert, you will. You'll discover what 58 00:02:03,790 --> 00:02:05,791 means the most to you in this world, love." 59 00:02:05,875 --> 00:02:07,534 - I feel better in the past week 60 00:02:07,544 --> 00:02:09,294 than I have in a long time. 61 00:02:09,379 --> 00:02:12,289 - I just want him to know I love you. 62 00:02:12,298 --> 00:02:13,882 - I do want to see if you feel that 63 00:02:13,967 --> 00:02:17,210 you have told each other secrets that are hard to tell. 64 00:02:17,220 --> 00:02:19,972 - I'm gonna say something, basically, I'm going to regret. 65 00:02:21,808 --> 00:02:23,049 There's something I haven't told Jose about 66 00:02:23,059 --> 00:02:24,560 the night he locked me out. 67 00:02:24,644 --> 00:02:27,312 [dramatic music] 68 00:02:27,388 --> 00:02:30,640 - I recently had a conversation with Bao's best friend, Sarah. 69 00:02:30,650 --> 00:02:32,058 ♪ ♪ 70 00:02:32,068 --> 00:02:34,477 - I got a text from a friend that showed 71 00:02:34,562 --> 00:02:36,813 that you are on a dating app. 72 00:02:36,823 --> 00:02:41,151 ♪ ♪ 73 00:02:41,161 --> 00:02:42,995 - They were matched by experts, 74 00:02:43,070 --> 00:02:45,488 then, after eight weeks, 75 00:02:45,498 --> 00:02:49,409 they must make the decision for themselves. 76 00:02:49,419 --> 00:02:50,335 - Do you want to stay married? 77 00:02:50,411 --> 00:02:52,329 ♪ ♪ 78 00:02:52,338 --> 00:02:55,174 - Or do you want to get a divorce? 79 00:02:55,249 --> 00:03:00,637 ♪ ♪ 80 00:03:02,006 --> 00:03:03,515 - ♪ It's all or nothing ♪ 81 00:03:03,591 --> 00:03:06,518 - This is "Married At First Sight." 82 00:03:06,603 --> 00:03:09,679 ♪ ♪ 83 00:03:09,689 --> 00:03:11,598 - ♪ It's all or nothing ♪ 84 00:03:11,608 --> 00:03:14,351 [upbeat music] 85 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,945 ♪ ♪ 86 00:03:17,021 --> 00:03:18,021 - I don't know about you, but I'm ready 87 00:03:18,031 --> 00:03:18,864 to head back to the city. 88 00:03:18,948 --> 00:03:20,949 ♪ ♪ 89 00:03:21,025 --> 00:03:23,526 - Are we almost there? Are we there yet? 90 00:03:23,536 --> 00:03:25,871 - These are some country-ass back roads. 91 00:03:25,947 --> 00:03:30,784 ♪ ♪ 92 00:03:30,793 --> 00:03:34,213 - Home, sweet, home. 93 00:03:34,288 --> 00:03:37,049 - The Couples Retreat has come to an end and our couples 94 00:03:37,124 --> 00:03:38,375 are now returning home to Houston. 95 00:03:38,384 --> 00:03:40,043 - [sighs] 96 00:03:40,053 --> 00:03:42,295 - And with Decision Day approaching fast... 97 00:03:42,305 --> 00:03:44,973 - That was our trip to rekindle. 98 00:03:45,049 --> 00:03:46,975 - They only have two weeks left 99 00:03:47,060 --> 00:03:49,970 to address any lingering questions or concerns 100 00:03:49,979 --> 00:03:51,313 before making the most 101 00:03:51,389 --> 00:03:53,899 important decision of their lives, 102 00:03:53,983 --> 00:03:56,235 whether to stay married or get a divorce. 103 00:03:56,319 --> 00:04:00,313 ♪ ♪ 104 00:04:00,323 --> 00:04:01,406 - It's as we left it. 105 00:04:01,482 --> 00:04:04,734 ♪ ♪ 106 00:04:04,744 --> 00:04:07,913 I'm feeling pretty good overall about this trip, 107 00:04:07,989 --> 00:04:13,001 but in terms of reconnecting with Johnny, largely, 108 00:04:13,086 --> 00:04:16,255 we didn't interact much at all throughout the weekend. 109 00:04:19,008 --> 00:04:20,884 How do you feel the weekend went? 110 00:04:23,096 --> 00:04:25,755 - Um, it was good. 111 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:27,340 - Yeah. - It was a lot of fun. 112 00:04:27,425 --> 00:04:28,392 - Mm-hmm. 113 00:04:36,350 --> 00:04:39,019 - I'm gonna go shower. - Okay. 114 00:04:39,028 --> 00:04:42,030 - ♪ It's so quiet here ♪ 115 00:04:42,106 --> 00:04:45,442 - I know we agreed to be on level one, 116 00:04:45,451 --> 00:04:46,943 but I connect on a deeper level 117 00:04:46,953 --> 00:04:48,453 and that is fulfilling for me. 118 00:04:48,529 --> 00:04:50,447 [indistinct] 119 00:04:50,456 --> 00:04:53,542 I've had level three conversations on an airplane 120 00:04:53,617 --> 00:04:56,545 with a total stranger that were more exciting than level one 121 00:04:56,620 --> 00:04:57,871 conversation with my husband. 122 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,873 I don't want that. [scoffs] 123 00:04:59,882 --> 00:05:02,125 - ♪ Can you get closer ♪ 124 00:05:02,135 --> 00:05:04,970 ♪ ♪ 125 00:05:05,054 --> 00:05:09,466 - Oh no, you're so dying. Oh, no. 126 00:05:09,475 --> 00:05:11,217 ♪ ♪ 127 00:05:11,227 --> 00:05:14,721 - ♪ Would you be open ♪ 128 00:05:14,731 --> 00:05:17,149 - Okay, perk back up. 129 00:05:17,224 --> 00:05:21,653 - ♪ Would you be open to a change of mind ♪ 130 00:05:21,738 --> 00:05:28,618 ♪ ♪ 131 00:05:32,165 --> 00:05:34,240 - ♪ I didn't know, I didn't know ♪ 132 00:05:34,250 --> 00:05:37,669 ♪ What you wanted ♪ 133 00:05:37,745 --> 00:05:39,996 ♪ But I need to know, I need to know ♪ 134 00:05:40,081 --> 00:05:42,749 ♪ Yeah it haunts me ♪ 135 00:05:42,759 --> 00:05:45,260 - I haven't spoken to Michaela since the Couples Retreat. 136 00:05:45,336 --> 00:05:47,179 Hopefully, today, I can get some more 137 00:05:47,254 --> 00:05:49,681 clarity with Dr. Pepper and I actually requested 138 00:05:49,757 --> 00:05:52,675 that our conversations with Dr. Pepper be separate. 139 00:05:52,685 --> 00:05:54,427 ♪ ♪ 140 00:05:54,512 --> 00:05:57,514 - So just so y'all know, 141 00:05:57,523 --> 00:05:59,941 Zackary has not talked to me since he jetted off. 142 00:06:00,017 --> 00:06:02,361 I've reached out to him and I've said nothing but, 143 00:06:02,436 --> 00:06:05,021 basically, I love you, and I want us to work this out, 144 00:06:05,031 --> 00:06:08,024 and we can get through this, and radio silent. 145 00:06:08,034 --> 00:06:10,610 I mean, radio silent as if he didn't abandon me. 146 00:06:10,620 --> 00:06:11,870 [scoffs] It's wild. 147 00:06:11,946 --> 00:06:13,113 ♪ ♪ 148 00:06:13,122 --> 00:06:14,697 - I got you some tea. 149 00:06:14,707 --> 00:06:16,375 - Thank you very much, all right. 150 00:06:16,459 --> 00:06:20,045 ♪ ♪ 151 00:06:20,121 --> 00:06:21,880 So I gather 152 00:06:21,956 --> 00:06:24,716 to say that it hasn't been easy is an understatement. 153 00:06:24,792 --> 00:06:26,551 - Mm-hmm. Yeah, this has not been easy. 154 00:06:26,636 --> 00:06:29,054 - Have you spoken to Michaela? - No. 155 00:06:29,130 --> 00:06:31,473 - Or texted her, been texted to since then? 156 00:06:31,549 --> 00:06:34,810 - I have not spoken with Michaela, 157 00:06:34,885 --> 00:06:37,479 but she has been texting me nonstop. 158 00:06:37,555 --> 00:06:39,564 It's been like a whole ordeal. 159 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,475 So the Couples Retreat, we have a conversation 160 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,727 and, essentially, I was explaining my thought 161 00:06:44,737 --> 00:06:48,073 process behind getting a divorce 162 00:06:48,149 --> 00:06:50,158 and still possibly dating, 163 00:06:50,234 --> 00:06:52,994 which we were on the same page with this the night before, 164 00:06:53,070 --> 00:06:54,496 like, we were in a really good spot. 165 00:06:54,572 --> 00:06:56,656 And that's where she, like, got upset. 166 00:06:56,666 --> 00:06:57,749 If we got a divorce, right, 167 00:06:57,834 --> 00:06:59,159 then we wouldn't be married anymore, 168 00:06:59,243 --> 00:07:00,585 so then we would be in different circumstances 169 00:07:00,661 --> 00:07:02,838 so we can see what happens then. That's why. 170 00:07:02,922 --> 00:07:04,914 [dramatic music] 171 00:07:04,924 --> 00:07:08,093 - I can't, I can't, I can't! I'm sorry, [bleep]! 172 00:07:08,177 --> 00:07:10,095 ♪ ♪ 173 00:07:10,179 --> 00:07:12,597 - And that was-- In that exact moment, 174 00:07:12,673 --> 00:07:16,435 I realized I am no longer doing this with Michaela. 175 00:07:16,510 --> 00:07:19,179 - Honestly, I know you've been through 176 00:07:19,188 --> 00:07:23,349 an enormous amount of emotions, and I feel bad for you that 177 00:07:23,359 --> 00:07:25,435 it's been that hard, I really do. 178 00:07:25,445 --> 00:07:28,188 I do want to see where there's some learnings possible. 179 00:07:28,272 --> 00:07:29,939 - Right. 180 00:07:29,949 --> 00:07:32,033 - And to question you on some stuff. 181 00:07:32,109 --> 00:07:34,861 - I understand that, like, I'm not perfect, 182 00:07:34,871 --> 00:07:37,530 and I actually called my ex-girlfriends to ask them 183 00:07:37,615 --> 00:07:40,366 how am I in conflict, how do I handle conflict? 184 00:07:40,376 --> 00:07:41,534 They pretty much all said the same thing, 185 00:07:41,619 --> 00:07:43,286 which is not surprising. 186 00:07:43,296 --> 00:07:45,622 You try to avoid it and you never like when 187 00:07:45,631 --> 00:07:49,459 scenes are caused, like, big, explosive moments. 188 00:07:49,469 --> 00:07:53,546 So my actions should not be causing 189 00:07:53,556 --> 00:07:55,640 the reaction from Michaela. 190 00:07:58,469 --> 00:08:00,386 - Let me try and help you. - Yeah. 191 00:08:00,471 --> 00:08:03,473 - What I'd like to do is have you two hear each other 192 00:08:03,557 --> 00:08:05,400 with rules you both agree on, 193 00:08:05,476 --> 00:08:08,394 and listen to each other's feelings, 194 00:08:08,479 --> 00:08:13,066 and stop it if any of the ground rules are broken. 195 00:08:13,075 --> 00:08:15,744 [soft dramatic music] 196 00:08:15,819 --> 00:08:19,164 - I'm not there yet, I can't--I just can't. 197 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,741 - Well, before you make that absolute decision, 198 00:08:21,751 --> 00:08:24,827 let me plead my case a little bit, okay? 199 00:08:24,837 --> 00:08:27,914 What we haven't done is with me in the middle. 200 00:08:27,998 --> 00:08:30,842 - Okay, that's true. - What if we triangulate that? 201 00:08:30,927 --> 00:08:34,596 You talk to me, I explain it to her, 202 00:08:34,672 --> 00:08:38,758 she talks to me, I explain it to you. 203 00:08:38,768 --> 00:08:44,013 - I'm--I'm down, I agree. 204 00:08:44,023 --> 00:08:48,184 - It's really important for Michaela and Zack 205 00:08:48,194 --> 00:08:50,436 to be able to discuss what happened together. 206 00:08:50,446 --> 00:08:52,864 Come on in, please sit down. 207 00:08:52,940 --> 00:08:54,699 They are still married. 208 00:08:54,775 --> 00:08:59,204 They need to understand what happened, why it happened, 209 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,041 and each of them have a chance to say how it affected them. 210 00:09:03,117 --> 00:09:07,295 So why don't you tell me how you've been feeling and what 211 00:09:07,380 --> 00:09:09,965 you'd like Zack to understand about where you're at. 212 00:09:10,049 --> 00:09:12,041 - Zack left me. 213 00:09:12,051 --> 00:09:13,969 - When was that? Are you talking about at the retreat? 214 00:09:14,044 --> 00:09:16,888 - Yes ma'am, and I said please don't leave, 215 00:09:16,964 --> 00:09:20,475 please, and he still left. 216 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:23,728 As you know, abandonment is one of my biggest triggers. 217 00:09:23,804 --> 00:09:26,472 [dramatic music] 218 00:09:26,482 --> 00:09:29,392 And with him knowing that I 219 00:09:29,402 --> 00:09:31,978 have these issues with abandonment 220 00:09:31,988 --> 00:09:37,409 and that that was a fear state for me, like, him leaving-- 221 00:09:37,484 --> 00:09:41,154 Him leaving, like, Zack, can you please, like, not do that? 222 00:09:41,238 --> 00:09:44,833 And then he does it in such a big and explosive way. 223 00:09:44,908 --> 00:09:46,418 That was hard-- That was hard on me. 224 00:09:46,493 --> 00:09:49,337 ♪ ♪ 225 00:09:49,413 --> 00:09:53,666 And even with that, I decided, 226 00:09:53,676 --> 00:09:57,086 okay, something got us there. 227 00:09:57,096 --> 00:09:59,339 I don't want to do that anymore ever again. 228 00:09:59,348 --> 00:10:03,018 And we both need time to think and manage our feelings and, 229 00:10:03,093 --> 00:10:05,511 you know, figure out where we are. 230 00:10:05,521 --> 00:10:07,689 I reached out to him and I told him--I said, "Zack, I love you, 231 00:10:07,765 --> 00:10:10,516 "I understand we have challenges, 232 00:10:10,601 --> 00:10:12,185 but I don't want-- I don't want to lose you." 233 00:10:12,194 --> 00:10:14,362 No response. 234 00:10:14,438 --> 00:10:18,450 And it's heartbreaking because 235 00:10:18,525 --> 00:10:22,779 it's like, I've tried, and I've tried, and I've tried. 236 00:10:22,788 --> 00:10:26,041 At this point, it's like, I've-- 237 00:10:26,116 --> 00:10:28,951 I've thrown a Hail Mary and... 238 00:10:28,961 --> 00:10:32,038 ♪ ♪ 239 00:10:32,048 --> 00:10:34,290 There's nothing else I can do. 240 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:38,127 - So Zack, 241 00:10:38,212 --> 00:10:40,713 what Michaela's saying is that 242 00:10:40,723 --> 00:10:44,809 she is in love with you. 243 00:10:44,885 --> 00:10:48,221 Her perspective is she did ask you not to leave, 244 00:10:48,305 --> 00:10:52,141 you left, 245 00:10:52,151 --> 00:10:54,486 which was extremely difficult for her. 246 00:10:54,561 --> 00:11:00,241 I think that is the core of what she was saying. 247 00:11:00,317 --> 00:11:01,993 What's your response to that? 248 00:11:05,665 --> 00:11:07,582 - So you're not going to ride back with me tomorrow? 249 00:11:07,658 --> 00:11:09,167 If that's the case, then I'm going to leave tonight. 250 00:11:09,243 --> 00:11:10,669 - Good, bye. 251 00:11:10,753 --> 00:11:11,828 - No, no, I was making sure you-- 252 00:11:11,912 --> 00:11:13,338 - Good, bye. - No, I came with you, I-- 253 00:11:13,414 --> 00:11:16,341 - Ah-ah! Go home now. Bye. 254 00:11:16,425 --> 00:11:18,426 ♪ ♪ 255 00:11:18,502 --> 00:11:21,921 - I cannot say anything right now. 256 00:11:21,931 --> 00:11:23,339 I can just listen right now. 257 00:11:23,349 --> 00:11:26,008 - Okay. 258 00:11:26,018 --> 00:11:30,930 - My interaction with Zack is that he's found a lot of these 259 00:11:30,940 --> 00:11:33,108 past weeks very traumatic 260 00:11:33,183 --> 00:11:38,438 and that part of it is what he feels 261 00:11:38,447 --> 00:11:42,275 are the explosiveness of your reactions, getting up, 262 00:11:42,284 --> 00:11:46,279 yelling, using a lot of language, 263 00:11:46,288 --> 00:11:48,707 high drama. 264 00:11:48,782 --> 00:11:53,545 - Honestly, Dr. Pepper, Zack tries to paint me out to be 265 00:11:53,629 --> 00:11:56,706 this crazy, inconsistent person. 266 00:11:56,716 --> 00:11:58,883 He really does. 267 00:11:58,959 --> 00:12:04,213 He says that I have these reactions, he has no-- 268 00:12:04,223 --> 00:12:07,800 He has no evidence of me reacting in a bad way to him. 269 00:12:07,810 --> 00:12:10,562 [music fades] 270 00:12:10,646 --> 00:12:12,897 - So Zack-- 271 00:12:12,973 --> 00:12:14,232 - Before... 272 00:12:14,308 --> 00:12:15,984 - Sorry? 273 00:12:16,059 --> 00:12:21,573 - Before you get into that, I've reached my limit. 274 00:12:21,648 --> 00:12:23,324 Hopefully one day we can have a conversation, 275 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,153 but today is not that day. 276 00:12:27,237 --> 00:12:30,415 I tried my best. I have to leave. Thank you. 277 00:12:30,499 --> 00:12:33,585 ♪ ♪ 278 00:12:33,669 --> 00:12:35,411 - ♪ When you go downstream ♪ 279 00:12:35,421 --> 00:12:36,838 ♪ Clench your fists and breathe ♪ 280 00:12:36,914 --> 00:12:39,507 ♪ Will you even make a sound ♪ 281 00:12:39,583 --> 00:12:41,843 ♪ When it all comes out ♪ 282 00:12:49,268 --> 00:12:53,095 - [sighs] 283 00:12:53,105 --> 00:12:55,857 This is a prime example of how he literally 284 00:12:55,933 --> 00:13:00,019 always abandons me. Prime example. 285 00:13:00,103 --> 00:13:02,447 Even when there's somebody who is non-threatening, 286 00:13:02,523 --> 00:13:04,616 you still leave a situation. 287 00:13:04,691 --> 00:13:07,026 So is it really me? 288 00:13:07,036 --> 00:13:11,030 What confuses me about that, Dr. Pepper, is he says that 289 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,793 I overreact, you're this way, you react this way, you don't, 290 00:13:14,868 --> 00:13:17,378 you know, that you do these explosive things. 291 00:13:17,454 --> 00:13:19,380 - Do you think you don't? 292 00:13:19,456 --> 00:13:22,300 - I think I can. 293 00:13:22,376 --> 00:13:23,793 - There's been some ugly scenes. 294 00:13:23,803 --> 00:13:25,553 - Mm-hmm. 295 00:13:25,629 --> 00:13:29,382 - What do you regret that, if you could rerun them 296 00:13:29,466 --> 00:13:32,477 and do them differently, what would they be? 297 00:13:32,553 --> 00:13:35,230 - The scene that I regret is having a panic attack 298 00:13:35,314 --> 00:13:39,058 watching him drive off even though I couldn't help that. 299 00:13:39,068 --> 00:13:41,143 - Please let me leave. 300 00:13:41,153 --> 00:13:43,071 I'm not mad, I'm gonna be very happy on the way home, 301 00:13:43,146 --> 00:13:44,572 just let me--thank you, damn. 302 00:13:46,742 --> 00:13:49,661 [tense music] 303 00:13:49,736 --> 00:13:54,082 [crashing] 304 00:13:58,003 --> 00:14:00,672 - Get out--get out! 305 00:14:02,925 --> 00:14:04,092 [door slams] 306 00:14:07,838 --> 00:14:10,089 I felt... 307 00:14:10,099 --> 00:14:13,259 [soft dramatic music] 308 00:14:13,269 --> 00:14:17,930 So scared, so abandoned, 309 00:14:17,940 --> 00:14:20,016 so terrified, 310 00:14:20,025 --> 00:14:23,936 so traumatized, so mad, 311 00:14:23,946 --> 00:14:26,022 and I haven't had-- 312 00:14:26,031 --> 00:14:30,776 Have not had that kind of feeling since my dad died. 313 00:14:30,786 --> 00:14:32,370 ♪ ♪ 314 00:14:32,446 --> 00:14:35,957 I was so afraid... 315 00:14:36,041 --> 00:14:39,535 of him leaving. 316 00:14:39,545 --> 00:14:42,955 In my head, him leaving, him getting on the road, 317 00:14:42,965 --> 00:14:45,541 that equaled death to me. 318 00:14:45,551 --> 00:14:48,377 And I didn't see what could we could have talked 319 00:14:48,387 --> 00:14:50,471 about inside of that bedroom that would make 320 00:14:50,547 --> 00:14:54,300 him get inside that car and leave. 321 00:14:54,384 --> 00:14:56,895 - Well, the realities of that situation was there's a lot 322 00:14:56,970 --> 00:14:59,722 of explosion on both sides, but at this point, 323 00:14:59,732 --> 00:15:02,901 Zack, he cannot cope with the mismatch 324 00:15:02,976 --> 00:15:05,811 on how the two of you emotionally react. 325 00:15:05,821 --> 00:15:08,230 ♪ ♪ 326 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,575 I really, really want you to work 327 00:15:10,651 --> 00:15:15,071 on the reactions you have. 328 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,666 I know that your loss of your father is tragic 329 00:15:18,742 --> 00:15:22,503 and I also know that that triggered a lot of those 330 00:15:22,579 --> 00:15:26,082 feelings and sent you in a panic that you regret, 331 00:15:26,166 --> 00:15:28,668 but I think you have to work 332 00:15:28,677 --> 00:15:32,254 on not projecting that loss 333 00:15:32,264 --> 00:15:35,350 on other issues in a given relationship 334 00:15:35,425 --> 00:15:40,012 so you don't desert what you mostly want, 335 00:15:40,022 --> 00:15:42,941 you know? - Mm-hmm. 336 00:15:43,025 --> 00:15:44,767 - Does that sound like a good idea? 337 00:15:44,777 --> 00:15:46,769 - That sounds like a good idea, yeah. 338 00:15:46,779 --> 00:15:48,196 - Okay. 339 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,860 [upbeat music] 340 00:15:54,870 --> 00:15:55,703 - You sure you don't want to drive? 341 00:15:55,788 --> 00:15:57,538 - I'm positive. 342 00:15:57,614 --> 00:15:59,707 - My cousin actually lived in here 343 00:15:59,792 --> 00:16:01,626 and that boy had to sleep with a gun under his pillow. 344 00:16:01,702 --> 00:16:03,044 - Oh! 345 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,787 - Are you a neighborhood kid, 346 00:16:04,797 --> 00:16:05,871 you were always out on the street? 347 00:16:05,881 --> 00:16:07,632 - I was, yeah. 348 00:16:07,708 --> 00:16:09,959 - Every couple is on their own unique marriage journey, 349 00:16:10,043 --> 00:16:12,804 but with less than two weeks left until Decision Day, 350 00:16:12,879 --> 00:16:16,215 it's our job as experts to help their relationships progress. 351 00:16:16,225 --> 00:16:18,142 - This is where you grew up? 352 00:16:18,218 --> 00:16:20,970 - This is where I lived up 'til, like, a few years ago. 353 00:16:20,980 --> 00:16:23,147 - This week, we've asked our couples 354 00:16:23,223 --> 00:16:25,307 to return to their roots and share some of their 355 00:16:25,317 --> 00:16:27,727 childhood experiences with their spouse. 356 00:16:27,736 --> 00:16:30,312 - You look so different. 357 00:16:30,322 --> 00:16:32,231 - We've also encouraged each person 358 00:16:32,315 --> 00:16:33,825 to write a letter to their younger self 359 00:16:33,900 --> 00:16:36,244 at a significant point in their life. 360 00:16:36,328 --> 00:16:38,997 The goal is to build more emotional intimacy 361 00:16:39,072 --> 00:16:41,907 by revealing something vulnerable about themselves, 362 00:16:41,917 --> 00:16:43,492 and learning about their past 363 00:16:43,502 --> 00:16:45,494 will help them answer some of the questions 364 00:16:45,504 --> 00:16:49,173 they still have about their present and their future. 365 00:16:49,249 --> 00:16:51,676 - I brought some-- Some childhood photos. 366 00:16:54,430 --> 00:16:57,348 - What? [laughs] - [laughs] 367 00:16:57,424 --> 00:16:59,934 That was a little Jeep that me and my cousins all shared. 368 00:17:00,019 --> 00:17:02,020 So Andy's one of the cousins that lived down the street, 369 00:17:02,104 --> 00:17:03,012 he's the guy at my wedding that gave the speech. 370 00:17:03,022 --> 00:17:04,605 - Mm-hmm. 371 00:17:04,681 --> 00:17:05,848 - And here we are again. This is my grandma. 372 00:17:05,858 --> 00:17:07,349 - Mm-hmm. 373 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:08,776 - And my great grandma, my cousins, 374 00:17:08,852 --> 00:17:10,853 we all grew up together. 375 00:17:10,937 --> 00:17:13,189 We spent, at a minimum, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday together. 376 00:17:13,198 --> 00:17:14,949 [chuckles] All of us as babies. 377 00:17:15,025 --> 00:17:17,693 - Oh, my God, this is adorable. 378 00:17:17,703 --> 00:17:20,038 Oh. 379 00:17:20,113 --> 00:17:22,874 - Picture of me, my mom and dad, my sister. 380 00:17:22,958 --> 00:17:27,128 - Oh, wow. Any memories of your dad here? 381 00:17:27,212 --> 00:17:29,622 - Some. Uh... 382 00:17:29,631 --> 00:17:34,052 actually, a lot of those memories were not--not happy. 383 00:17:34,136 --> 00:17:36,212 I have daddy issues. I admit it. 384 00:17:36,221 --> 00:17:39,215 And I mean, some of these things that I've got 385 00:17:39,224 --> 00:17:41,717 are because I had 386 00:17:41,727 --> 00:17:44,804 a parent actually get removed from the picture. 387 00:17:44,813 --> 00:17:47,899 Not having a dad in the house to just show you everything, 388 00:17:47,974 --> 00:17:50,142 like how to be a man, how to be a husband, 389 00:17:50,152 --> 00:17:51,560 it was very difficult. 390 00:17:51,570 --> 00:17:52,987 Maybe I have certain deficiencies 391 00:17:53,063 --> 00:17:55,648 that are stemming from that. 392 00:17:55,657 --> 00:17:58,576 My dad inadvertently shaped me 393 00:17:58,652 --> 00:18:01,079 without being that involved in my childhood. 394 00:18:01,154 --> 00:18:04,740 I've written my little letter to myself. 395 00:18:04,750 --> 00:18:05,825 If you hang on to this, I'll read it to you. 396 00:18:05,834 --> 00:18:07,585 - Okay, sure. 397 00:18:07,661 --> 00:18:09,504 - S'up kiddo? I write to you from the future. 398 00:18:09,579 --> 00:18:11,255 Should I start with the bad news? 399 00:18:11,331 --> 00:18:15,009 Well, you're not a bajillionaire and sorry, 400 00:18:15,094 --> 00:18:17,586 hoverboards and lightsabers aren't a thing just yet. 401 00:18:17,596 --> 00:18:20,515 Good news, you're happy, healthy, 402 00:18:20,590 --> 00:18:22,266 and you find yourself surrounded by a lot 403 00:18:22,351 --> 00:18:24,510 of incredible people who care about you. 404 00:18:24,594 --> 00:18:28,013 It wasn't easy getting to this point, though. 405 00:18:28,023 --> 00:18:30,608 Boy, I remember these days. You were not a happy kid. 406 00:18:30,684 --> 00:18:33,185 Sadness, jealousy, anger, not only are 407 00:18:33,195 --> 00:18:34,529 those paths to the dark side, 408 00:18:34,604 --> 00:18:37,115 it's just no way to live, amigo. 409 00:18:37,190 --> 00:18:39,608 You may never have the coolest toy car or superhero action 410 00:18:39,618 --> 00:18:41,777 figure in your hands, stylish clothes on your back, 411 00:18:41,787 --> 00:18:44,872 or newest kicks on your feet, but you do have a 412 00:18:44,948 --> 00:18:48,042 devoted mother, giving up her own personal 413 00:18:48,127 --> 00:18:50,711 dreams and ambitions, to ensure she can provide 414 00:18:50,787 --> 00:18:53,372 for you and your sister the life she never got to have. 415 00:18:53,382 --> 00:18:55,291 Love and appreciate her for this, 416 00:18:55,300 --> 00:18:56,968 don't hate that you can't have 417 00:18:57,052 --> 00:18:58,627 all the things you want right now. 418 00:18:58,637 --> 00:19:00,546 Ooh, all right. 419 00:19:00,556 --> 00:19:04,633 Forgive your father. 420 00:19:04,718 --> 00:19:06,218 When you see other kids playing ball at 421 00:19:06,228 --> 00:19:07,812 the park with their dads... 422 00:19:07,896 --> 00:19:13,151 ♪ ♪ 423 00:19:13,226 --> 00:19:15,570 Family dinners when you go out to eat, 424 00:19:15,645 --> 00:19:18,731 his absence is his choice, but it isn't his fault. 425 00:19:18,740 --> 00:19:22,902 Not all marriages work out. 426 00:19:22,911 --> 00:19:24,662 End of the day, don't sweat about not belonging 427 00:19:24,738 --> 00:19:28,666 to a typical family of dad, mom, 2.5 kids 428 00:19:28,742 --> 00:19:31,911 'cause I'll tell you what: you have something even better, 429 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,997 a village, and someday you'll look back and realize you're 430 00:19:35,007 --> 00:19:36,340 a product of all the people 431 00:19:36,416 --> 00:19:37,166 who committed their time and love 432 00:19:37,250 --> 00:19:39,093 touching your life. 433 00:19:39,178 --> 00:19:43,181 And man, that guy-- That guy has everything. 434 00:19:43,256 --> 00:19:46,342 - That's awesome, how does that feel to share all of that? 435 00:19:46,426 --> 00:19:48,769 - It feels good. - Yeah? 436 00:19:48,854 --> 00:19:51,355 - What do you feel was like the breaking point for your mom, 437 00:19:51,431 --> 00:19:54,108 where she's like, I've had enough, this is the final... 438 00:19:54,184 --> 00:19:56,268 - I don't know. - Final straw. 439 00:19:56,278 --> 00:19:58,270 - If it were up to my dad, they'd still be married today. 440 00:19:58,355 --> 00:19:59,947 - Yeah? 441 00:20:00,023 --> 00:20:02,358 - My dad did this one last-ditch effort of 442 00:20:02,367 --> 00:20:06,195 flying me, my sister, and my mom out to LA. 443 00:20:06,205 --> 00:20:07,705 He had found this one nice, little house 444 00:20:07,781 --> 00:20:10,366 in a little LA suburb. 445 00:20:10,375 --> 00:20:12,284 And he said, "I'm going to buy this house for us. 446 00:20:12,294 --> 00:20:15,621 Can we start over?" - Mm-hmm. 447 00:20:15,631 --> 00:20:19,550 - But my mom didn't want to. 448 00:20:19,626 --> 00:20:23,462 She told my dad never to come back again. 449 00:20:23,472 --> 00:20:25,389 [soft dramatic music] 450 00:20:25,465 --> 00:20:27,549 And he has not been back to Texas. 451 00:20:27,559 --> 00:20:31,553 - ♪ I'm praying for an angel to come ♪ 452 00:20:31,563 --> 00:20:37,142 ♪ I'm waiting for a star to fall ♪ 453 00:20:37,152 --> 00:20:39,487 - There's definitely a lot of shame associated with getting 454 00:20:39,571 --> 00:20:42,490 divorced--that just doesn't happen in Asian households. 455 00:20:42,574 --> 00:20:44,659 But I am so proud of my mom for doing it 456 00:20:44,743 --> 00:20:48,821 because she deserved better, but just viewing my parents' 457 00:20:48,905 --> 00:20:52,491 relationship and how my dad eats every day, 458 00:20:52,575 --> 00:20:57,672 every meal by himself, that is a lonely life, 459 00:20:57,747 --> 00:21:00,082 but that's not the life that I want. 460 00:21:00,092 --> 00:21:03,419 I do want a life partner and I really feel like 461 00:21:03,428 --> 00:21:07,256 I should be happily married and, for whatever reason, 462 00:21:07,340 --> 00:21:11,510 I'm not, and I want to be. 463 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,012 ♪ ♪ 464 00:21:13,096 --> 00:21:16,691 Man, I want that so bad. 465 00:21:16,775 --> 00:21:19,768 - Well, thank you so much for sharing all this with me. 466 00:21:19,778 --> 00:21:22,780 It means a lot and it gives me a better idea 467 00:21:22,856 --> 00:21:26,025 of how you became who you are now. 468 00:21:26,034 --> 00:21:28,202 ♪ ♪ 469 00:21:28,278 --> 00:21:30,746 - ♪ You know the damage is done ♪ 470 00:21:35,210 --> 00:21:38,120 [upbeat music] 471 00:21:38,130 --> 00:21:41,457 ♪ ♪ 472 00:21:41,466 --> 00:21:43,384 - All right, so these two apartments 473 00:21:43,460 --> 00:21:45,210 were the worst apartments. 474 00:21:45,295 --> 00:21:49,640 Your car would get broken into every other day. 475 00:21:49,725 --> 00:21:50,883 - Look, they're hanging all their clothes 476 00:21:50,892 --> 00:21:53,969 outside like in the village. 477 00:21:54,054 --> 00:21:56,564 - It feels a little weird being back here because it's 478 00:21:56,639 --> 00:22:01,977 been about 22 years since I've been here. 479 00:22:01,987 --> 00:22:05,647 Anytime we share our childhood memories, 480 00:22:05,657 --> 00:22:08,743 it opens the door to who we are, 481 00:22:08,818 --> 00:22:11,078 and this is what I'm doing today with my wife 482 00:22:11,163 --> 00:22:15,240 so she can kind of see who I am or how I am the way I am. 483 00:22:15,250 --> 00:22:19,837 I used to get into fights mostly in there, mainly because 484 00:22:19,913 --> 00:22:24,008 we used to play basketball, you know, a shopping cart? 485 00:22:24,084 --> 00:22:27,336 We used to flip it over and hang it on a gate 486 00:22:27,420 --> 00:22:29,430 and that's what we'd hoop at. - Okay. 487 00:22:29,506 --> 00:22:32,591 - And so obviously, kids, we used to get into fights 488 00:22:32,675 --> 00:22:35,770 over basketball games or just people, you know, 489 00:22:35,845 --> 00:22:37,855 people talking noise, bullying. 490 00:22:37,931 --> 00:22:40,182 I hung out with a pretty rough crowd. 491 00:22:40,266 --> 00:22:43,018 I was doing stuff with my friends that, 492 00:22:43,028 --> 00:22:44,686 mm, looking back on it, 493 00:22:44,696 --> 00:22:45,696 I don't think we should have been doing that stuff. 494 00:22:45,772 --> 00:22:48,023 [laughter] 495 00:22:48,108 --> 00:22:50,442 But, um, it's cool, it's cool. 496 00:22:50,452 --> 00:22:55,114 And so that is my apartment. 497 00:22:55,123 --> 00:22:57,866 Well, that's where I grew up, and that's 498 00:22:57,876 --> 00:23:02,621 actually the apartment where my dad was shot. 499 00:23:02,705 --> 00:23:04,706 If you walk in the apartment, as soon as you open 500 00:23:04,716 --> 00:23:06,875 the door, it's the living room, right, 501 00:23:06,885 --> 00:23:09,970 and there was a couch on the right hand side. 502 00:23:10,046 --> 00:23:12,973 Well, I was sleeping on that couch 503 00:23:13,049 --> 00:23:15,059 when they kicked in the door. 504 00:23:15,135 --> 00:23:16,969 So literally, they kicked in the door 505 00:23:16,978 --> 00:23:18,971 and they walked right past me. 506 00:23:18,980 --> 00:23:23,067 And they hit that corner and then my dad opened the door, 507 00:23:23,143 --> 00:23:26,562 and when he opened the door, he saw the guys. 508 00:23:26,571 --> 00:23:28,230 He saw them and then he closed the door, and then he 509 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,324 put us back to the door 510 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,069 and the guy shot at the door. 511 00:23:34,079 --> 00:23:36,747 Like, it was like six or seven bullets and like, 512 00:23:36,832 --> 00:23:39,750 one of them hit my dad in the neck. 513 00:23:39,826 --> 00:23:42,995 And then he ran off, so that's when I called 911. 514 00:23:43,079 --> 00:23:45,581 I remember being in the back of the ambulance, 515 00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:48,843 but I don't--it was so much commotion going on. 516 00:23:48,918 --> 00:23:53,013 I remember the medics, you know, stopping-- 517 00:23:53,089 --> 00:23:55,591 Stopping the bleed, wrapping him up, 518 00:23:55,675 --> 00:23:58,677 and we was just hauling. And um... 519 00:23:58,687 --> 00:24:00,762 I was sitting there in the waiting room 520 00:24:00,772 --> 00:24:03,941 and then like, maybe 20 minutes, 521 00:24:04,017 --> 00:24:06,527 the doctor came and told me, you know, your dad passed. 522 00:24:06,603 --> 00:24:08,612 And I was like, okay. 523 00:24:11,608 --> 00:24:13,358 I didn't know--I didn't know how to react to that, 524 00:24:13,368 --> 00:24:15,527 like, I was kind of like-- - Well, you were young, so... 525 00:24:15,612 --> 00:24:18,622 - I was like, "Okay," like it didn't even hit me. 526 00:24:18,707 --> 00:24:22,284 It didn't hit me for like two weeks. 527 00:24:22,368 --> 00:24:24,879 - Although we both lost our fathers, you know, losing your 528 00:24:24,954 --> 00:24:26,705 father when you're young, you still need your father to be 529 00:24:26,715 --> 00:24:28,540 around and a role model, 530 00:24:28,625 --> 00:24:31,960 and I know how traumatic it was for me 531 00:24:32,045 --> 00:24:35,055 so I appreciate him sharing that specific experience. 532 00:24:35,131 --> 00:24:37,299 It is really nice to see where your roots are, like, 533 00:24:37,309 --> 00:24:40,469 where you grew up, and where, like, life molded you. 534 00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:44,231 - I've told people the story of my dad passing away, 535 00:24:44,307 --> 00:24:49,820 but I've never brought anybody here. 536 00:24:49,896 --> 00:24:52,814 Never, like, you're the very first person. 537 00:24:52,824 --> 00:24:55,826 We all have experiences in our past that 538 00:24:55,902 --> 00:24:59,997 might be challenging to talk to someone with. 539 00:25:00,081 --> 00:25:02,241 But, you know, one of the reasons why I 540 00:25:02,250 --> 00:25:04,409 decided I wanted to be married at first sight is so I 541 00:25:04,494 --> 00:25:06,161 could find somebody that 542 00:25:06,171 --> 00:25:08,172 I could be able to talk to, and feel 543 00:25:08,248 --> 00:25:10,841 comfortable with, and have those tough conversations and 544 00:25:10,917 --> 00:25:14,512 hope that they can empathize with me and be there for me. 545 00:25:14,587 --> 00:25:17,848 Damn, I always wonder about how my life would have been 546 00:25:17,924 --> 00:25:19,925 if he was still alive. 547 00:25:20,009 --> 00:25:22,019 Like, it would have been different, for sure. 548 00:25:22,103 --> 00:25:25,430 ♪ ♪ 549 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,016 - ♪ Turn on it loud ♪ 550 00:25:28,101 --> 00:25:32,196 ♪ Turn on it loud ♪ 551 00:25:32,272 --> 00:25:35,783 ♪ Make amends, it's gonna be all right ♪ 552 00:25:35,858 --> 00:25:38,527 - So this is it, this is my house. 553 00:25:38,537 --> 00:25:40,279 So this evening, I'm bringing Rachel here 554 00:25:40,288 --> 00:25:42,039 to one of my childhood homes. 555 00:25:42,115 --> 00:25:46,368 This is where I grew up, you know, this is part of my life. 556 00:25:46,378 --> 00:25:47,294 Things have definitely changed, 557 00:25:47,370 --> 00:25:49,296 it looks a lot different, 558 00:25:49,372 --> 00:25:52,049 the trees are a lot larger, but years ago, my parents had 559 00:25:52,125 --> 00:25:54,385 the vision of, "Hey, we're gonna build a house together," 560 00:25:54,460 --> 00:25:57,304 and what I want to share with my wife, now, 561 00:25:57,389 --> 00:25:59,473 in our marriage, is what I saw, and that's teamwork. 562 00:25:59,549 --> 00:26:01,049 You know, I think the whole reason why 563 00:26:01,059 --> 00:26:02,801 my parents moved here is because 564 00:26:02,811 --> 00:26:04,812 the Pearland school district was good and so they're like, 565 00:26:04,887 --> 00:26:06,647 you know, we're gonna move to Pearland, 566 00:26:06,731 --> 00:26:08,223 and you're gonna go to, you know, go to school and get 567 00:26:08,233 --> 00:26:11,318 good grades, and be in sports and stay out of trouble. 568 00:26:11,394 --> 00:26:13,237 It was significant enough for us 569 00:26:13,313 --> 00:26:16,407 to know that, oh, our parents want us to succeed. 570 00:26:16,482 --> 00:26:18,325 Fast forward, my sister-- We both have degrees, 571 00:26:18,401 --> 00:26:20,569 we're both very educated and, I mean, 572 00:26:20,579 --> 00:26:24,239 they sacrificed a lot, too, to build this house. 573 00:26:24,249 --> 00:26:26,908 - I didn't know that it was built, you know, 574 00:26:26,918 --> 00:26:28,744 from the ground up so I mean, this house is 575 00:26:28,753 --> 00:26:32,256 kind of a reflection of your parents' taste. 576 00:26:32,332 --> 00:26:36,168 Even though both our parents are separated and divorced, 577 00:26:36,177 --> 00:26:40,505 we both experienced a good, wholesome family times and we 578 00:26:40,590 --> 00:26:44,092 know what--when it's good, what it looks like, 579 00:26:44,177 --> 00:26:48,105 what it should look like, so at least we had that to look back. 580 00:26:48,189 --> 00:26:51,350 So no, I really appreciate you bringing me here. 581 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,101 - So you want to go inside? 582 00:26:53,111 --> 00:26:55,613 - Oh yeah, yeah. - Let's go check it out. 583 00:26:55,688 --> 00:26:58,449 [upbeat music] 584 00:26:58,524 --> 00:27:00,359 I remember my sister wanted to go to take these. 585 00:27:00,443 --> 00:27:02,277 - Oh, my gosh. 586 00:27:02,362 --> 00:27:04,455 - These little glamour shots--of course, 587 00:27:04,539 --> 00:27:06,531 I didn't have a beard either, so... 588 00:27:06,616 --> 00:27:08,125 - You were starting to, you know, peach fuzz. 589 00:27:08,209 --> 00:27:09,543 - Yeah, I got a little peach fuzz. 590 00:27:09,619 --> 00:27:11,045 Got a little peach fuzz, yeah. 591 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:14,623 - Oh, my God, you looked so cool. 592 00:27:14,633 --> 00:27:16,458 How old were you there? 593 00:27:16,468 --> 00:27:17,968 - I have my ears pierced then so I don't know, 594 00:27:18,044 --> 00:27:19,044 I guess I was like... 595 00:27:19,054 --> 00:27:21,138 - You had your ears pierced? 596 00:27:21,214 --> 00:27:22,798 - Yeah, matter of fact, you know the story about that? 597 00:27:22,882 --> 00:27:24,716 I did it myself in this house. - [sighs] 598 00:27:24,801 --> 00:27:27,135 - I was in-- I was in third, fourth grade. 599 00:27:27,145 --> 00:27:29,054 I pierced it with a needle here. 600 00:27:29,064 --> 00:27:30,147 It was funny because I did it 601 00:27:30,231 --> 00:27:31,231 and then one of the neighborhood kids 602 00:27:31,307 --> 00:27:32,733 tried to do it too, and he couldn't. 603 00:27:32,817 --> 00:27:34,142 - Oh, no. - Yeah. 604 00:27:34,152 --> 00:27:35,811 - Oh, yeah, yeah, so... 605 00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:38,322 - That was a thing. - So yeah, I guess like... 606 00:27:38,398 --> 00:27:41,149 - The parts that I'm enjoying the most is really seeing 607 00:27:41,159 --> 00:27:46,488 the pictures and, you know, which pictures made the frames. 608 00:27:46,498 --> 00:27:49,750 I always feel, you know if a picture is framed, 609 00:27:49,834 --> 00:27:52,169 it must mean something more than, you know, 610 00:27:52,245 --> 00:27:54,004 all your other pictures, 611 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,581 and I love behind every picture he is sharing a story. 612 00:27:56,666 --> 00:27:59,677 So what were, like, typical meals during the week? 613 00:27:59,752 --> 00:28:02,587 - So you know, we weren't like super well off, of course, 614 00:28:02,597 --> 00:28:05,099 mind you, we just built this house so we didn't have much 615 00:28:05,174 --> 00:28:08,352 money right? So we ate rice and beans like 616 00:28:08,436 --> 00:28:12,940 every single day because we were not very well off. 617 00:28:13,015 --> 00:28:14,692 It's like hey, you can get a bunch 618 00:28:14,776 --> 00:28:16,360 of rice and a bunch of beans for, 619 00:28:16,436 --> 00:28:18,946 like, pretty cheap, and you can eat that all week. 620 00:28:19,021 --> 00:28:23,283 - Eating rice and beans made you feel like, oh, this is what 621 00:28:23,368 --> 00:28:26,695 we have to eat because maybe there's not enough money? 622 00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:30,449 I never saw rice and beans as, like, not having money thing, 623 00:28:30,533 --> 00:28:32,868 it was just like, oh, 624 00:28:32,952 --> 00:28:36,872 we're being really Hispanic right now. 625 00:28:36,956 --> 00:28:38,632 You know, like, this is what, you know, 626 00:28:38,708 --> 00:28:41,802 my culture eats and that's okay. 627 00:28:43,463 --> 00:28:47,048 Something that I found just a little surprising is 628 00:28:47,058 --> 00:28:50,978 he felt he didn't have a lot growing up because 629 00:28:51,053 --> 00:28:53,305 I've always viewed it 630 00:28:53,314 --> 00:28:57,559 if you have a house-house, that's having a lot, you know? 631 00:28:57,569 --> 00:29:01,572 So it gets me wondering, what is he comparing this to? 632 00:29:01,656 --> 00:29:04,324 What does it look to have everything, 633 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,909 you know, that you want? 634 00:29:05,994 --> 00:29:08,579 ♪ ♪ 635 00:29:14,419 --> 00:29:17,755 - ♪ I can't sleep at night, no ♪ 636 00:29:17,839 --> 00:29:23,418 ♪ Waiting for the background of my mind to quiet ♪ 637 00:29:23,428 --> 00:29:24,920 ♪ ♪ 638 00:29:24,929 --> 00:29:28,348 - Hey. - Hey. 639 00:29:28,433 --> 00:29:30,768 - What's going on? Where are we at? 640 00:29:30,843 --> 00:29:33,604 - This is where I grew up. 641 00:29:33,688 --> 00:29:35,096 - All right. 642 00:29:35,181 --> 00:29:37,516 - Yeah, it's different now 643 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:43,030 'cause there's no house or anything on it, 644 00:29:43,114 --> 00:29:46,033 but I still remember everything like it was yesterday. 645 00:29:46,117 --> 00:29:51,622 Most of the people in my life do not know the depths 646 00:29:51,697 --> 00:29:55,209 of where I came from because so much about my childhood 647 00:29:55,284 --> 00:29:59,546 brought me grief and shame and hurt. 648 00:29:59,622 --> 00:30:02,132 I haven't been back in years. 649 00:30:02,217 --> 00:30:03,467 Part of me doesn't feel like 650 00:30:03,551 --> 00:30:05,460 Johnny deserves to hear any of it, 651 00:30:05,545 --> 00:30:09,389 but I feel there's enough of a foundation for us to be 652 00:30:09,465 --> 00:30:12,968 vulnerable and it's important for my husband 653 00:30:13,052 --> 00:30:17,222 to understand that I'm multi-layered and these layers, 654 00:30:17,232 --> 00:30:20,225 they grew from my childhood. 655 00:30:20,309 --> 00:30:21,985 That tree right there with the little rope, 656 00:30:22,061 --> 00:30:24,154 that was my favorite tree. 657 00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:27,324 It was right in front of the trailer I grew up in. 658 00:30:27,408 --> 00:30:29,568 The trailer was to the left. 659 00:30:29,652 --> 00:30:31,152 - Wish I could see it. 660 00:30:31,237 --> 00:30:35,740 - Yeah, well, I actually have pictures. 661 00:30:35,825 --> 00:30:37,668 It was 50 years old already when my dad bought it. 662 00:30:37,752 --> 00:30:39,837 It was in pretty bad shape. 663 00:30:39,921 --> 00:30:42,172 That's the front, that's the porch. 664 00:30:42,257 --> 00:30:46,001 We used to hide under here. 665 00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:48,169 This is the tree, that big tree I said I like. 666 00:30:48,254 --> 00:30:50,430 This property had pear trees, 667 00:30:50,515 --> 00:30:53,174 peach trees, all kinds of trees, 668 00:30:53,184 --> 00:30:56,854 and we had so much fruit that I would just hock it out 669 00:30:56,929 --> 00:31:00,181 into the street, like, I just found [bleep] to do. 670 00:31:00,266 --> 00:31:02,943 We used to have the biggest bonfires. 671 00:31:03,027 --> 00:31:05,195 I used to build 672 00:31:05,271 --> 00:31:09,274 a big straw hut for my, like, generic Barbies 673 00:31:09,358 --> 00:31:13,453 and I put them in there and I'd set the whole thing on fire. 674 00:31:13,538 --> 00:31:16,123 [laughs] - What? 675 00:31:16,207 --> 00:31:18,116 - A lot of mischief because, again, 676 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,960 when you grow up on two acres and have no friends, 677 00:31:20,044 --> 00:31:22,203 that's what it is. 678 00:31:22,288 --> 00:31:27,384 So I wrote a long letter to my little self. 679 00:31:27,468 --> 00:31:30,629 Dear little [indistinct] Bao, you don't yet know 680 00:31:30,713 --> 00:31:33,965 who you are, but I do. 681 00:31:34,050 --> 00:31:37,052 A lot of what you hate about yourself and feel 682 00:31:37,136 --> 00:31:39,804 shame for now will shape you into a stronger, 683 00:31:39,814 --> 00:31:42,807 braver, more compassionate woman. 684 00:31:42,817 --> 00:31:46,061 [soft dramatic music] 685 00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:49,481 ♪ ♪ 686 00:31:49,490 --> 00:31:51,575 Your parents are doing the best they can. 687 00:31:51,651 --> 00:31:53,068 ♪ ♪ 688 00:31:53,077 --> 00:31:55,913 [sniffles] 689 00:31:55,988 --> 00:32:00,834 Your father lost everything, he lost his older brother, 690 00:32:00,910 --> 00:32:03,921 and many friends in the war. 691 00:32:04,005 --> 00:32:06,590 Your father is struggling with PTSD 692 00:32:06,674 --> 00:32:11,094 and no one in your family and community at the time 693 00:32:11,170 --> 00:32:14,506 is equipped to manage it, and certainly not your mother. 694 00:32:14,590 --> 00:32:17,768 [crying] 695 00:32:17,852 --> 00:32:20,103 - You okay? 696 00:32:20,188 --> 00:32:27,361 ♪ ♪ 697 00:32:27,445 --> 00:32:30,948 - Please try to understand that he is hurting 698 00:32:31,032 --> 00:32:34,025 as much as you are. 699 00:32:34,110 --> 00:32:35,860 Your mother's your hero. 700 00:32:35,945 --> 00:32:40,791 One day, you will see a lot of her in you. 701 00:32:40,866 --> 00:32:44,378 I promise you that there is light beyond these dark times 702 00:32:44,453 --> 00:32:47,038 and you will make yourself and your family 703 00:32:47,048 --> 00:32:49,958 very happy and proud. 704 00:32:50,042 --> 00:32:52,961 Love, bigger [indistinct] Bao. 705 00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:54,805 [chuckles] 706 00:32:59,635 --> 00:33:02,479 [sniffles] 707 00:33:02,555 --> 00:33:03,647 - Come here. 708 00:33:05,725 --> 00:33:07,150 [crying] 709 00:33:07,226 --> 00:33:10,979 ♪ ♪ 710 00:33:10,989 --> 00:33:15,492 When Bao started sharing with me about her parents, 711 00:33:15,568 --> 00:33:17,577 something clicked in my head 712 00:33:17,653 --> 00:33:19,913 because I tried to empathize with that, I started thinking, 713 00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:24,918 am I like either of my parents? 714 00:33:24,994 --> 00:33:26,244 Yeah. 715 00:33:26,328 --> 00:33:32,426 - [sobbing] - Thanks for sharing it. 716 00:33:32,501 --> 00:33:36,004 Just viewing my parents' relationship and seeing how 717 00:33:36,088 --> 00:33:38,932 unhappy they were has made me feel like 718 00:33:39,008 --> 00:33:41,685 it's okay to get divorced. 719 00:33:41,769 --> 00:33:44,512 I have walked away from relationships very easily 720 00:33:44,522 --> 00:33:48,349 because I saw that it's okay to leave, 721 00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:50,610 and that shouldn't be the case. 722 00:33:50,695 --> 00:33:55,440 There's something wrong here, I'm expecting too much, 723 00:33:55,450 --> 00:33:58,359 and that's not fair. 724 00:33:58,369 --> 00:34:01,455 It's not fair to, like, this marriage, 725 00:34:01,539 --> 00:34:05,792 it's just not fair to Bao. 726 00:34:05,868 --> 00:34:09,796 I didn't try to make it work. 727 00:34:09,872 --> 00:34:12,957 - I've never shared this with anybody. 728 00:34:13,042 --> 00:34:15,293 None of my relationships 729 00:34:15,303 --> 00:34:19,890 that nearly led to marriage, 730 00:34:19,965 --> 00:34:21,475 I never shared it. 731 00:34:21,550 --> 00:34:23,477 I never shared it because I was ashamed, 732 00:34:23,552 --> 00:34:27,639 but I honestly feel like my mom--my mom was the glue. 733 00:34:27,723 --> 00:34:30,901 Like, if she didn't just grit and bear it, 734 00:34:30,985 --> 00:34:32,486 I don't know where we would be now. 735 00:34:32,561 --> 00:34:33,728 I mean, maybe we would have been better 736 00:34:33,738 --> 00:34:37,398 and hindsight's 20/20, maybe if they had split. 737 00:34:37,408 --> 00:34:41,402 I can't say because-- I look at what they have 738 00:34:41,487 --> 00:34:45,240 now and it's--it's wonderful. 739 00:34:45,249 --> 00:34:48,251 They're stronger now. It's all I've ever wanted. 740 00:34:48,336 --> 00:34:51,254 ♪ ♪ 741 00:34:51,330 --> 00:34:54,424 But they went through some real [bleep] to get there. 742 00:34:54,509 --> 00:34:57,094 We all did. 743 00:34:57,169 --> 00:35:01,089 - For her to have been around her parents who went through 744 00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:03,341 this sort of hardship, and they're still together 745 00:35:03,351 --> 00:35:06,353 after 50 years now, 746 00:35:06,428 --> 00:35:09,597 I think that really speaks volumes as to how 747 00:35:09,607 --> 00:35:12,275 Bao views marriage, and it kind of makes sense now, 748 00:35:12,351 --> 00:35:14,686 the way that she's committed to the marriage 100%, 749 00:35:14,770 --> 00:35:17,772 and it gives me hope. 750 00:35:17,857 --> 00:35:20,692 Thanks for sharing this with me. 751 00:35:20,776 --> 00:35:23,703 Sharing this part of your past, even though it's difficult, 752 00:35:23,779 --> 00:35:26,790 it does give me insight into who you are 753 00:35:26,866 --> 00:35:28,792 and where you came from. 754 00:35:28,868 --> 00:35:30,127 ♪ ♪ 755 00:35:36,384 --> 00:35:38,635 ♪ ♪ 756 00:35:38,711 --> 00:35:41,796 - It's a little different from what you played, huh? 757 00:35:41,881 --> 00:35:44,132 - I didn't play sand volleyball. 758 00:35:44,142 --> 00:35:47,051 I decided to bring my husband to volleyball because 759 00:35:47,136 --> 00:35:50,388 I loved volleyball and I was athletic in high school, 760 00:35:50,398 --> 00:35:54,484 so I wanted to kind of show him a little into younger me. 761 00:35:54,569 --> 00:35:56,144 You should have worn shorts. 762 00:35:56,228 --> 00:35:58,730 - I 100% should've worn shorts. 763 00:35:58,814 --> 00:36:00,740 I wasn't prepared. 764 00:36:00,816 --> 00:36:03,493 - And that I still fit into my jersey, 765 00:36:03,569 --> 00:36:07,080 except now I have muscle. [laughs] 766 00:36:07,165 --> 00:36:09,082 - I've never played one to one. 767 00:36:09,167 --> 00:36:13,745 - It's easy, you serve, and then you run up 768 00:36:13,754 --> 00:36:15,747 to receive whatever I give you. 769 00:36:15,756 --> 00:36:17,165 - That's a lot of work. 770 00:36:17,175 --> 00:36:18,583 ♪ ♪ 771 00:36:18,667 --> 00:36:21,094 - There we go. - [chuckles] 772 00:36:21,179 --> 00:36:23,180 - You could've got that. - That doesn't count. 773 00:36:23,255 --> 00:36:24,764 - You could've got that. 774 00:36:24,849 --> 00:36:27,767 - ♪ Would you light a fire ♪ 775 00:36:27,852 --> 00:36:30,103 ♪ Would you lose it all ♪ 776 00:36:30,188 --> 00:36:32,856 ♪ Would you light a fire ♪ 777 00:36:32,932 --> 00:36:35,192 [laughter] 778 00:36:35,276 --> 00:36:37,360 - I wanna hit that backside so bad. 779 00:36:37,436 --> 00:36:41,114 ♪ ♪ 780 00:36:46,954 --> 00:36:48,705 - Oh, Jesus. 781 00:36:48,781 --> 00:36:51,950 [laughter] 782 00:36:51,959 --> 00:36:55,545 - Let's go, let's go! 783 00:36:55,630 --> 00:36:57,547 Loser buys drink! 784 00:36:57,623 --> 00:37:00,383 ♪ ♪ 785 00:37:00,468 --> 00:37:02,469 - You made me fall. 786 00:37:02,544 --> 00:37:04,554 Rematch. 787 00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:06,723 - Good job. 788 00:37:06,807 --> 00:37:10,310 - I would not be here today if it were not for how I grew up, 789 00:37:10,386 --> 00:37:11,970 the communities, 790 00:37:12,054 --> 00:37:14,564 the environment of where we grew up molds us 791 00:37:14,649 --> 00:37:16,733 into who we are today, and so I think it's important 792 00:37:16,809 --> 00:37:20,654 for him to understand this is why I am who I am today. 793 00:37:20,738 --> 00:37:22,739 - So you had fun, baby? - Yes. 794 00:37:22,815 --> 00:37:25,075 I miss playing volleyball. 795 00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:27,068 Everybody takes a different path and it's a different 796 00:37:27,078 --> 00:37:30,163 motivation because my husband also grew up poor 797 00:37:30,248 --> 00:37:31,998 and so--but that molded him to be something different, right, 798 00:37:32,074 --> 00:37:34,075 it drove him to do something different. 799 00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:36,160 - I miss playing volleyball too, I mean, I didn't play 800 00:37:36,245 --> 00:37:39,923 competitive like you out here in a jersey and everything. 801 00:37:39,999 --> 00:37:43,927 - This is my high school senior jersey, it has my name on it. 802 00:37:44,011 --> 00:37:46,337 This is the first time that I've worn this since my 803 00:37:46,422 --> 00:37:49,432 senior year, this was 16 years ago. 804 00:37:49,508 --> 00:37:52,769 You that old lady with her old high school jersey. 805 00:37:52,853 --> 00:37:54,771 - I'm not old. - And it fits like it. 806 00:37:58,526 --> 00:38:00,527 What did your mom think about you playing sports? 807 00:38:00,602 --> 00:38:02,696 - She encouraged it, you know, I mean, 808 00:38:02,780 --> 00:38:05,023 we didn't have a car growing up, the challenge of like, 809 00:38:05,107 --> 00:38:07,025 remember, like you-- - Getting to-- 810 00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:09,119 - Getting to and from practice was tough and getting to games. 811 00:38:09,203 --> 00:38:12,113 - Do you think that that translated somehow now into 812 00:38:12,197 --> 00:38:14,958 your life, the way you play sports to now? 813 00:38:15,042 --> 00:38:17,368 Like, in any aspect, like work, or... 814 00:38:17,378 --> 00:38:19,546 - I mean, I definitely think, like, in the being organized, 815 00:38:19,621 --> 00:38:22,040 being responsible, being independent, 816 00:38:22,124 --> 00:38:24,959 working with others, all those things are, 817 00:38:24,969 --> 00:38:26,886 like, who I am now, and that molded me, like, 818 00:38:26,971 --> 00:38:29,964 at a very young age, like, I needed to be in sports, like... 819 00:38:29,974 --> 00:38:31,808 you had to have all your stuff together, like, 820 00:38:31,884 --> 00:38:33,301 you have to be ready to go to practice, you know, 821 00:38:33,311 --> 00:38:34,635 you had to kind of do that on your own because 822 00:38:34,645 --> 00:38:35,645 it's not like my mom was gonna hold my hand and 823 00:38:35,730 --> 00:38:38,648 do it, like, you know, she couldn't. 824 00:38:38,724 --> 00:38:39,816 Like, I had to go and figure out 825 00:38:39,892 --> 00:38:41,142 how to do those things on my own 826 00:38:41,226 --> 00:38:43,644 and communicate those things to my mom. 827 00:38:43,654 --> 00:38:46,230 So really, it was like a motivation to do better and so 828 00:38:46,315 --> 00:38:48,325 I think when I look back, 829 00:38:48,409 --> 00:38:50,744 not just me, like, I see my brother, 830 00:38:50,819 --> 00:38:53,496 and I see my sister, and then I see my little sister, 831 00:38:53,572 --> 00:38:55,749 and I think all the things that we've accomplished, 832 00:38:55,833 --> 00:38:57,158 considering where we came from, 833 00:38:57,242 --> 00:38:59,836 it's like--like, we worked hard, 834 00:38:59,912 --> 00:39:01,913 like, we did good. 835 00:39:01,922 --> 00:39:04,841 Like, we're making my mom proud and that makes me happy 836 00:39:04,917 --> 00:39:06,843 because I know my mom struggled and went through a lot 837 00:39:06,927 --> 00:39:10,263 in her life so that we could be where we are today. 838 00:39:10,339 --> 00:39:12,515 I moved around a lot, but there was-- 839 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,434 For me there was one home that I had, like, 840 00:39:14,518 --> 00:39:16,427 this is my first home that I can recollect. 841 00:39:16,437 --> 00:39:17,687 - Let's see this infamous house. 842 00:39:17,772 --> 00:39:19,522 - This is my little casita. 843 00:39:19,607 --> 00:39:22,025 ♪ ♪ 844 00:39:22,109 --> 00:39:26,187 It was so tiny, like, it was just one room and it 845 00:39:26,197 --> 00:39:29,949 had, like, a tin or aluminum roof, four windows, 846 00:39:30,025 --> 00:39:32,035 and we were all jam packed in there. 847 00:39:32,111 --> 00:39:34,695 - All right, you were living in a mansion, I see you. 848 00:39:34,705 --> 00:39:36,373 [chuckles] 849 00:39:36,457 --> 00:39:38,541 - So you see why I wanted, like, I like high rises 850 00:39:38,626 --> 00:39:41,628 and pretty homes, 'cause this is where I grew up. 851 00:39:41,703 --> 00:39:43,713 - No, that's not the reason why people should like 852 00:39:43,798 --> 00:39:48,459 high rises and--that doesn't justify anything, I mean... 853 00:39:48,544 --> 00:39:51,304 - For me, not for others. 854 00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:54,799 - I completely--I completely see how that's motivation. 855 00:39:54,883 --> 00:39:56,893 I believe that the person she's become now is 856 00:39:56,977 --> 00:39:59,387 completely different from the person that she was. 857 00:39:59,471 --> 00:40:01,722 She works hard for what she has 858 00:40:01,807 --> 00:40:05,393 and she has no shame in who she is. 859 00:40:05,403 --> 00:40:07,904 And so I love that about her, just her drive. 860 00:40:07,980 --> 00:40:09,480 You want to go back there and build your house, 861 00:40:09,490 --> 00:40:11,408 would you want to retire in Roma... 862 00:40:11,483 --> 00:40:14,318 Build your-- - I'm sorry, what? 863 00:40:14,403 --> 00:40:17,247 - But um, sometimes it feels like she forgets where she 864 00:40:17,331 --> 00:40:20,825 came from and I want her to stay true to that 865 00:40:20,909 --> 00:40:22,419 and I don't want her to forget that. 866 00:40:22,494 --> 00:40:26,756 ♪ ♪ 867 00:40:28,750 --> 00:40:29,834 - ♪ You got me like ♪ 868 00:40:29,918 --> 00:40:34,922 ♪ Hell yeah ♪ 869 00:40:35,007 --> 00:40:37,008 - ♪ Hell yeah ♪ - ♪ Boy, you got me like ♪ 870 00:40:37,017 --> 00:40:38,768 [knocking on door] 871 00:40:38,853 --> 00:40:42,188 - Our guest is here. - We got someone at the door. 872 00:40:42,273 --> 00:40:45,016 - With less than two weeks left before Decision Day, 873 00:40:45,025 --> 00:40:48,194 I think it's especially important for our couples 874 00:40:48,270 --> 00:40:50,104 to open up about things they're ashamed of 875 00:40:50,189 --> 00:40:51,772 and to be vulnerable 876 00:40:51,782 --> 00:40:55,776 with one another about both the present and the past. 877 00:40:55,861 --> 00:40:59,622 Understanding someone's past can often provide valuable 878 00:40:59,698 --> 00:41:02,867 information about who they are in the present. 879 00:41:02,877 --> 00:41:05,369 Learning these things about each other will have a major 880 00:41:05,454 --> 00:41:08,289 impact on whether they decide to stay married 881 00:41:08,299 --> 00:41:10,216 or get a divorce. 882 00:41:12,219 --> 00:41:13,720 I can't help but read your signs. 883 00:41:13,804 --> 00:41:15,555 - [laughs] - Oh, yes. 884 00:41:15,631 --> 00:41:18,633 - I promise to actively listen more. 885 00:41:18,642 --> 00:41:20,468 I promise to be less controlling and let 886 00:41:20,478 --> 00:41:23,137 you be the independent woman you are always. 887 00:41:23,222 --> 00:41:26,900 I promise to always check on my wife, morning, noon, and night. 888 00:41:26,975 --> 00:41:29,319 That sounds controlling, but maybe it isn't. 889 00:41:29,394 --> 00:41:31,738 [laughter] 890 00:41:31,822 --> 00:41:33,397 You can let me know. 891 00:41:33,407 --> 00:41:35,658 I don't see any from you up here, Rachel. 892 00:41:35,734 --> 00:41:37,494 - Well I didn't do anything wrong. 893 00:41:37,578 --> 00:41:40,079 [laughter] - So you're the perfect wife? 894 00:41:40,164 --> 00:41:41,831 - She is the perfect one. 895 00:41:41,916 --> 00:41:44,825 - Okay, well let's check in on that. 896 00:41:44,835 --> 00:41:47,420 - The only one that she does have up here 897 00:41:47,496 --> 00:41:50,507 is actually a little personal sign to-- 898 00:41:50,582 --> 00:41:53,843 - Something that I need to do or work on, but I'm sure 899 00:41:53,928 --> 00:41:58,264 there are things and we can definitely talk about that. 900 00:41:58,340 --> 00:42:01,017 - So I think it's important to know that we're not 901 00:42:01,093 --> 00:42:02,852 always going to be perfect and the marriage isn't going 902 00:42:02,928 --> 00:42:05,355 to always be perfect, but you can learn from it, 903 00:42:05,439 --> 00:42:08,191 rise above it, and keep getting better. 904 00:42:08,267 --> 00:42:11,945 You know, my job here is to take a look first at, 905 00:42:12,029 --> 00:42:15,606 you know, those things that create a profound relationship. 906 00:42:15,691 --> 00:42:17,951 You know, the vulnerabilities you've shared, 907 00:42:18,026 --> 00:42:21,037 working to build and maintain trust, 908 00:42:21,121 --> 00:42:24,541 those things that are kind of the foundational level 909 00:42:24,625 --> 00:42:26,867 of being married. 910 00:42:26,877 --> 00:42:31,038 So let's take a look at how well you've done. 911 00:42:31,048 --> 00:42:34,300 Rachel, looking into what Jose's triggers are, 912 00:42:34,385 --> 00:42:37,545 what are the things that are his points of vulnerability 913 00:42:37,629 --> 00:42:41,799 that you--you now know, and what happened after that? 914 00:42:41,883 --> 00:42:44,561 - I've learned that when it comes to triggers, 915 00:42:44,645 --> 00:42:49,056 it's definitely making him talk or communicate when 916 00:42:49,141 --> 00:42:50,817 he's not ready to. 917 00:42:50,901 --> 00:42:53,060 I found out that was the trigger, 918 00:42:53,070 --> 00:42:55,062 I found out what happens when you don't give him space. 919 00:42:55,072 --> 00:42:58,408 He was like, "Look, if I get past this point, 920 00:42:58,492 --> 00:43:01,995 I'm gonna say something, basically, I'm gonna regret. 921 00:43:02,070 --> 00:43:04,414 And I believed him and I'm like, okay, like, 922 00:43:04,498 --> 00:43:06,249 I don't want to find out, you know, 923 00:43:06,325 --> 00:43:09,669 and so I learned, yeah, definitely give him space, 924 00:43:09,745 --> 00:43:11,588 give him time, 925 00:43:11,663 --> 00:43:15,592 and not immediately go into this feeling of rejection. 926 00:43:15,676 --> 00:43:18,836 This is why I was avoiding giving him that space 927 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,098 because I didn't want to feel that rejection 928 00:43:22,182 --> 00:43:25,092 of "he's mad and he doesn't want to talk to me, 929 00:43:25,102 --> 00:43:28,605 like, he must not want to be with me anymore." 930 00:43:28,689 --> 00:43:30,356 And now, I'm like, you know, if he needs his space, 931 00:43:30,441 --> 00:43:32,525 we just watch TV, and then he's like, 932 00:43:32,601 --> 00:43:35,111 "I didn't like how you did this today." 933 00:43:35,187 --> 00:43:38,448 And I'm like, "oh, wow." It showed me that it works. 934 00:43:38,523 --> 00:43:41,117 - So that sounds really great, I mean, that's the kind 935 00:43:41,193 --> 00:43:43,453 of growth that you want in a relationship where 936 00:43:43,537 --> 00:43:45,872 you start to learn from each other. 937 00:43:45,947 --> 00:43:49,450 Now, how do I not be overbearing and do too 938 00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:51,535 much for my wife, have you found out? 939 00:43:51,620 --> 00:43:52,787 - Yeah, so I think it was just 940 00:43:52,871 --> 00:43:54,872 us having just the conversation, 941 00:43:54,882 --> 00:43:58,217 and how much should I be doing, and where do I scale back? 942 00:43:58,293 --> 00:44:00,053 It was it was things like, you know, 943 00:44:00,128 --> 00:44:02,963 early on, even on the honeymoon, you know, 944 00:44:02,973 --> 00:44:04,465 she addressed, she didn't want to be fed. 945 00:44:04,475 --> 00:44:06,643 And I was doing it only because I wanted to give 946 00:44:06,727 --> 00:44:08,552 her whatever I had. 947 00:44:08,562 --> 00:44:11,806 - And for me, it was like, take it down a little bit so I 948 00:44:11,815 --> 00:44:14,392 can meet you there too, you know, because it 949 00:44:14,476 --> 00:44:17,070 was very much of like, just sit here and I'll do 950 00:44:17,145 --> 00:44:19,656 everything and I'm like, "Oh no, I don't like that." 951 00:44:19,740 --> 00:44:22,400 - Well, he said he wanted a modern woman, 952 00:44:22,484 --> 00:44:24,485 but he forgot that he was a traditional guy. 953 00:44:24,495 --> 00:44:26,237 [laughter] 954 00:44:26,321 --> 00:44:27,747 So there's had to be a little growth there? 955 00:44:27,831 --> 00:44:29,499 - Yeah, absolutely. 956 00:44:29,574 --> 00:44:31,334 And yes, I did want an independent 957 00:44:31,410 --> 00:44:34,253 woman, and I got that, and we're actually doing it 958 00:44:34,338 --> 00:44:38,082 together and we've found a little bit of a happy medium. 959 00:44:38,166 --> 00:44:41,094 - So he's trusting your opinion more, he's listening more? 960 00:44:41,169 --> 00:44:42,837 - Mm-hmm, yes. 961 00:44:42,846 --> 00:44:45,348 - So I think you guys are doing extremely well 962 00:44:45,424 --> 00:44:47,266 and building it well. 963 00:44:47,342 --> 00:44:49,176 I do want to see if you feel that you have 964 00:44:49,186 --> 00:44:51,938 told each other secrets that are hard to tell 965 00:44:52,022 --> 00:44:54,107 because I think one 966 00:44:54,191 --> 00:44:56,859 thing that makes a real marriage profound is 967 00:44:56,935 --> 00:45:00,446 you--you show some of the mistakes you've made, 968 00:45:00,522 --> 00:45:02,448 or the things you've done, you're not so sure that 969 00:45:02,524 --> 00:45:05,609 the other person would accept, and they do. 970 00:45:05,619 --> 00:45:07,704 Do you feel that you have shared 971 00:45:07,779 --> 00:45:12,041 what you need to share to feel like you're honest? 972 00:45:12,126 --> 00:45:14,627 ♪ ♪ 973 00:45:14,712 --> 00:45:18,881 - I think for us, we really just laid all the cards out. 974 00:45:18,957 --> 00:45:24,378 ♪ ♪ 975 00:45:24,388 --> 00:45:26,389 - There's something I haven't told Jose 976 00:45:26,473 --> 00:45:27,890 about the night he locked me out... 977 00:45:27,966 --> 00:45:29,976 [dramatic music] 978 00:45:30,060 --> 00:45:32,720 And I'm nervous about how he's going to take it. 979 00:45:32,804 --> 00:45:35,732 You know, there's that phrase, once a cheater, 980 00:45:35,816 --> 00:45:37,734 always a cheater, and I'm wondering, 981 00:45:37,818 --> 00:45:41,237 is he going to have trust issues because of my past? 982 00:45:41,321 --> 00:45:44,240 But I know I have to tell him soon. 983 00:45:51,156 --> 00:45:54,500 - ♪ I can't sleep at night, no ♪ 984 00:45:54,576 --> 00:45:57,661 ♪ Waiting for the background ♪ 985 00:45:57,671 --> 00:45:59,914 ♪ Of my mind to quiet down ♪ 986 00:45:59,923 --> 00:46:03,342 - So Zackary and I, we had a meeting with Dr. Pepper, 987 00:46:03,502 --> 00:46:07,263 and he walked out of that meeting. 988 00:46:07,339 --> 00:46:10,925 And I thought we were done. Like, I thought that was it. 989 00:46:10,934 --> 00:46:14,520 Apparently it's not. That night, Zackary 990 00:46:14,596 --> 00:46:17,765 called me asking me for a closure meeting. 991 00:46:17,775 --> 00:46:21,268 I've no idea what Zack is going into this meeting 992 00:46:21,278 --> 00:46:25,615 thinking, so we're gonna see how it goes. 993 00:46:25,774 --> 00:46:30,194 - I'm glad that this meeting is taking place, I think 994 00:46:30,287 --> 00:46:34,290 it's in both your interests, and I only have two rules. 995 00:46:34,366 --> 00:46:37,293 One is that it always stays civil, and secondly, 996 00:46:37,369 --> 00:46:40,129 that you don't interrupt so everybody gets to feel 997 00:46:40,205 --> 00:46:43,549 like they have been able to express themselves fully. 998 00:46:43,625 --> 00:46:46,803 I'm trying to get your goals fulfilled. 999 00:46:46,962 --> 00:46:49,305 Tell me what your goals are for this meeting. 1000 00:46:49,381 --> 00:46:51,474 - Right, so essentially, my goals with Michaela are 1001 00:46:51,550 --> 00:46:54,310 to essentially--to talk about how we've gotten to this 1002 00:46:54,469 --> 00:46:57,972 point and, you know, what lessons we can take from 1003 00:46:57,981 --> 00:47:02,059 this to kind of better ourselves going forward. 1004 00:47:02,069 --> 00:47:05,396 And if there's anything we could have done differently, 1005 00:47:05,405 --> 00:47:09,158 you could say anything, it's not gonna hurt my feelings. 1006 00:47:11,570 --> 00:47:16,073 - Zack, I fought for this, 1007 00:47:16,083 --> 00:47:20,002 and my passion may have 1008 00:47:20,078 --> 00:47:23,414 been misconstrued, 1009 00:47:23,423 --> 00:47:27,751 but I was giving it my all. 1010 00:47:27,761 --> 00:47:30,930 [soft dramatic music] 1011 00:47:31,006 --> 00:47:33,007 And-- 1012 00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:37,353 And Dr. Pepper, I have to talk to you about this. 1013 00:47:37,429 --> 00:47:38,771 You know about my text messages, 1014 00:47:38,847 --> 00:47:40,097 and he didn't reply to any of them 1015 00:47:40,190 --> 00:47:41,682 or my phone calls and I get it, 1016 00:47:41,692 --> 00:47:46,020 people need space. That was me trying. 1017 00:47:46,113 --> 00:47:48,606 For Zackary, there was no coming back, 1018 00:47:48,615 --> 00:47:50,691 and I understood that, 1019 00:47:50,701 --> 00:47:54,028 and I accepted that, and I accept it now. 1020 00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:58,365 - I think you would agree that I put in as much effort 1021 00:47:58,375 --> 00:48:02,879 and willingness as you did, and I don't want that to ever be 1022 00:48:03,038 --> 00:48:06,132 lost--I never want you to look back at this and think like, 1023 00:48:06,207 --> 00:48:07,791 you know, Zack just never gave me a chance 1024 00:48:07,876 --> 00:48:11,387 or Zack just didn't want me because that wasn't the case. 1025 00:48:11,546 --> 00:48:15,224 - Did you two give each other enough affirmations? 1026 00:48:15,383 --> 00:48:18,227 Did you tell him how great he was at this or that? 1027 00:48:18,303 --> 00:48:20,980 Did you tell her how much you admire, like her, 1028 00:48:21,056 --> 00:48:22,648 or thought, you know, this--that was 1029 00:48:22,724 --> 00:48:24,233 particularly smart or interesting, 1030 00:48:24,309 --> 00:48:26,485 did you guys give that kind of back and forth? 1031 00:48:26,561 --> 00:48:28,654 - Yeah, absolutely, I know I did. 1032 00:48:28,730 --> 00:48:31,231 I know she definitely did, so yes. 1033 00:48:31,241 --> 00:48:34,068 Our conversations are mostly positive, 1034 00:48:34,077 --> 00:48:35,819 we're not always arguing, so yeah, I would definitely 1035 00:48:35,913 --> 00:48:39,823 say we gave each other affirmations most of the time. 1036 00:48:39,833 --> 00:48:42,576 - So am I reading this right that it was mostly positives, 1037 00:48:42,586 --> 00:48:44,828 but these blow-ups ruined it for you? 1038 00:48:44,838 --> 00:48:47,757 If I could extract this out 1039 00:48:47,832 --> 00:48:52,169 of the relationship, would the marriage be good? 1040 00:48:52,262 --> 00:48:54,505 - Correct, like I keep saying, Michaela is an amazing person, 1041 00:48:54,598 --> 00:48:56,423 she's the most thoughtful woman I've ever met in my life, 1042 00:48:56,433 --> 00:48:59,760 and this is worth the sacrifice and fight, 1043 00:48:59,770 --> 00:49:02,179 it's just, we, like-- We did talk about this 1044 00:49:02,189 --> 00:49:03,356 throughout the whole process, 1045 00:49:03,431 --> 00:49:04,857 we did talk about how we can fix it, 1046 00:49:04,933 --> 00:49:08,945 and it seems like nothing was working. 1047 00:49:09,020 --> 00:49:10,688 - Well, if it was an easy fix, it would have already happened. 1048 00:49:10,697 --> 00:49:13,273 - Right, true. Yeah, that's true. 1049 00:49:13,283 --> 00:49:15,785 - So we're talking about tougher stuff and the question 1050 00:49:15,944 --> 00:49:19,956 is, if you could--if you really want to work with Michaela 1051 00:49:20,115 --> 00:49:24,710 on this really big problem, agree to work on this 1052 00:49:24,786 --> 00:49:27,797 issue together, because I think you have 1053 00:49:27,872 --> 00:49:31,709 some knowledge, Zack, of some of the things that 1054 00:49:31,718 --> 00:49:33,469 might have helped more, honestly, 1055 00:49:33,628 --> 00:49:35,295 that's my perspective. 1056 00:49:35,305 --> 00:49:39,299 - Right, I understand that perspective. 1057 00:49:39,309 --> 00:49:42,311 My thing is, I just want us to be able to be 1058 00:49:42,387 --> 00:49:45,564 in the best position possible, divorced or not divorced. 1059 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,817 - I think I just need to reiterate, 1060 00:49:47,892 --> 00:49:51,478 divorce means something to you that's different for her. 1061 00:49:51,571 --> 00:49:53,981 ♪ ♪ 1062 00:49:53,991 --> 00:49:58,995 - Then I would say yes on Decision Day 1063 00:49:59,070 --> 00:50:00,738 if that makes Michaela feel comfortable enough 1064 00:50:00,831 --> 00:50:02,823 just to talk to me again, 1065 00:50:02,833 --> 00:50:05,668 and have a conversation to see if we can work on this because 1066 00:50:05,744 --> 00:50:08,337 one phrase, "I want a divorce" or "I want to stay married," 1067 00:50:08,413 --> 00:50:12,842 will not dictate our relationship in the future. 1068 00:50:12,917 --> 00:50:15,177 - If he said yes, would you be willing to work on it? 1069 00:50:15,253 --> 00:50:20,850 ♪ ♪ 1070 00:50:20,925 --> 00:50:22,509 I mean, this is a very painful moment for you right now. 1071 00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:25,271 - So one thing, 1072 00:50:25,346 --> 00:50:30,359 getting a yes on Decision Day from him, 1073 00:50:30,435 --> 00:50:33,520 I honestly think it would have to come from him. 1074 00:50:33,530 --> 00:50:37,191 Not from a place of, "Can you just talk to me, 1075 00:50:37,284 --> 00:50:40,870 can you--'cause, for me personally, 1076 00:50:41,029 --> 00:50:43,873 I've got the information that I needed during our meeting. 1077 00:50:44,032 --> 00:50:47,868 Honestly, Dr. Pepper, that was a big thing for me. 1078 00:50:47,878 --> 00:50:52,298 I found closure, and I don't really have 1079 00:50:52,457 --> 00:50:55,217 anything much else to say. 1080 00:50:55,293 --> 00:50:57,803 ♪ ♪ 1081 00:51:00,381 --> 00:51:01,799 - Okay, well, I think she's in the position 1082 00:51:01,808 --> 00:51:04,143 you were the other day. - Yeah, I know. 1083 00:51:04,219 --> 00:51:07,480 - Is there anything else you want to say? 1084 00:51:07,555 --> 00:51:10,066 - Well, like I said, my door's open, 1085 00:51:10,141 --> 00:51:14,570 I'm willing to talk to you, um, whenever, like--like, please, 1086 00:51:14,646 --> 00:51:18,074 I definitely want to and I would love to at some point, 1087 00:51:18,149 --> 00:51:21,494 it could be today, tomorrow, a year from now, whatever, 1088 00:51:21,569 --> 00:51:24,413 but just know that I am willing to do that. 1089 00:51:24,489 --> 00:51:27,166 ♪ ♪ 1090 00:51:27,242 --> 00:51:29,743 - Can you look at him and just say-- 1091 00:51:29,753 --> 00:51:33,089 - If she looks at me, she gonna start laughing. 1092 00:51:33,164 --> 00:51:35,424 - Well, come on, be brave. 1093 00:51:37,585 --> 00:51:40,921 Do me a favor. 1094 00:51:40,931 --> 00:51:45,259 My husband actually taught this to me. 1095 00:51:45,268 --> 00:51:47,853 Put one of your hands out, each of you, 1096 00:51:47,929 --> 00:51:50,097 and hold the other person's hand. 1097 00:51:50,107 --> 00:51:52,608 Just do it 1098 00:51:52,684 --> 00:51:55,853 and say that you will agree to talk to each other 1099 00:51:55,862 --> 00:51:58,364 further, how about that? 1100 00:51:58,523 --> 00:52:01,283 Is that a big one? - [chuckles] 1101 00:52:01,359 --> 00:52:03,619 - That would be great. - One hand, you can do this. 1102 00:52:03,695 --> 00:52:05,037 - You don't have to touch me. Don't touch me, don't touch me. 1103 00:52:05,122 --> 00:52:07,706 - Put on your big girl clothes and you look gorgeous. 1104 00:52:07,782 --> 00:52:12,211 Come on, you can hold his hand, okay? 1105 00:52:12,370 --> 00:52:17,124 Okay, because what he taught me about that is that reminds us 1106 00:52:17,134 --> 00:52:21,053 we're human together, and that the problems 1107 00:52:21,129 --> 00:52:23,055 are real, and the problems are problems, 1108 00:52:23,131 --> 00:52:25,641 but we're two good people trying our best. 1109 00:52:25,717 --> 00:52:30,637 So just agree for me that you will have one conversation 1110 00:52:30,730 --> 00:52:34,641 at least before Decision Day about your feelings. 1111 00:52:34,734 --> 00:52:36,393 Whatever you decide, whatever you do, 1112 00:52:36,403 --> 00:52:37,820 it's up to you of course. 1113 00:52:37,979 --> 00:52:40,564 - I promise you that and I want to do that. 1114 00:52:40,574 --> 00:52:42,324 - Yes, ma'am, I can do that. 1115 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,495 - Okay, thank you. 1116 00:52:47,572 --> 00:52:50,157 - So when do you wanna do that? After this? I'm down. 1117 00:52:50,250 --> 00:52:51,834 - [laughing] 1118 00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:53,752 - You laughing, I know you wanna do it, like, 1119 00:52:53,828 --> 00:52:56,330 you're not fooling no one, Michaela. 1120 00:52:56,339 --> 00:52:58,165 Lets do this--let's go somewhere after this. 1121 00:52:58,175 --> 00:53:00,918 - [laughs] You see where I get confused? 1122 00:53:01,011 --> 00:53:02,586 - No, no, no, it's not about confusion, I just would love 1123 00:53:02,596 --> 00:53:04,338 to, like, talk to you 1124 00:53:04,347 --> 00:53:05,848 because I want to resolve our situation, 1125 00:53:06,007 --> 00:53:07,850 and I feel like it'll be very beneficial to both of us so 1126 00:53:08,009 --> 00:53:09,518 that's why I'm excited and would love to do it, 1127 00:53:09,594 --> 00:53:12,354 but anyway, it's up to you whenever you want to do that. 1128 00:53:12,513 --> 00:53:14,848 I do want to talk to Michaela and I do want to see 1129 00:53:14,858 --> 00:53:17,017 if this is something we can fix. 1130 00:53:17,027 --> 00:53:19,028 I don't know this is gonna work, 1131 00:53:19,103 --> 00:53:20,938 but it's a chance I'm willing to take. 1132 00:53:20,947 --> 00:53:23,866 I'm gonna keep trying. 1133 00:53:23,942 --> 00:53:27,110 - ♪ I'm running ♪ 1134 00:53:27,204 --> 00:53:31,707 ♪ You and I both know it's not the end ♪ 1135 00:53:31,783 --> 00:53:35,127 ♪ 'Cause it's me and you ♪ 1136 00:53:35,286 --> 00:53:37,880 ♪ No falling out ♪ 1137 00:53:37,956 --> 00:53:38,797 ♪ You and I ♪ 1138 00:53:41,626 --> 00:53:43,719 ♪ You and me ♪ 1139 00:53:43,795 --> 00:53:46,129 - ♪ We be out there, we be making millions ♪ 1140 00:53:46,139 --> 00:53:47,130 ♪ We go out t 1141 00:53:47,215 --> 00:53:50,643 [kno 1142 00:53:50,718 --> 00:53:53,395 - Hi there. - It's just you again. 1143 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,974 - I rang you like three times. [laughter] 1144 00:53:56,983 --> 00:53:58,984 Welcome to our humble abode. 1145 00:53:59,060 --> 00:54:01,237 - How are you? - I'm good. 1146 00:54:01,321 --> 00:54:02,229 - The comedian in our relationship. 1147 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,572 - Oh, good. 1148 00:54:03,648 --> 00:54:05,899 - I like to give hugs, are you a hugger? 1149 00:54:05,909 --> 00:54:08,244 Things have been going good with Myrla, 1150 00:54:08,319 --> 00:54:10,153 but I'm excited to be able to share some 1151 00:54:10,163 --> 00:54:12,072 thoughts with Dr. Pepper. 1152 00:54:12,082 --> 00:54:13,991 We got water, we got champagne, we got wine, 1153 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,501 we got vodka, we got tequila-- 1154 00:54:15,576 --> 00:54:18,420 - I'll take all of those. [laughter] 1155 00:54:18,496 --> 00:54:20,923 - And also give us some tips on how to better 1156 00:54:20,999 --> 00:54:24,251 improve the small things in working towards 1157 00:54:24,335 --> 00:54:27,012 getting to that goal that we both want. 1158 00:54:27,088 --> 00:54:28,847 - So it's great to see you guys, 1159 00:54:28,923 --> 00:54:32,342 my mission is always to help individuals and couples. 1160 00:54:32,427 --> 00:54:35,012 So Gil, you have called her a negative Nancy. 1161 00:54:35,096 --> 00:54:36,772 - Yes. 1162 00:54:36,848 --> 00:54:38,932 - So how does she get rid of that label, what would she 1163 00:54:38,942 --> 00:54:42,519 be acting like for you to not think of her that way? 1164 00:54:42,529 --> 00:54:46,023 [soft dramatic music] 1165 00:54:46,107 --> 00:54:51,870 - Um, more optimism, you know, more open mindedness 1166 00:54:51,946 --> 00:54:55,866 about things because most of the time she goes into things 1167 00:54:55,875 --> 00:55:00,629 kind of negative, but then nine times out of ten she enjoys it. 1168 00:55:00,705 --> 00:55:02,965 - So do you think you can sort of stifle yourself 1169 00:55:03,049 --> 00:55:04,541 some of the time? - I mean, I do. 1170 00:55:04,625 --> 00:55:05,384 - Do you, do you think you can stifle yourself? 1171 00:55:05,460 --> 00:55:07,294 - I think I can. 1172 00:55:07,304 --> 00:55:09,138 - What are the things that you have to contend 1173 00:55:09,213 --> 00:55:12,308 with that she should know about to be able to help you? 1174 00:55:12,383 --> 00:55:14,801 - [chuckles] Ah. 1175 00:55:14,811 --> 00:55:17,730 - My venting. - Her? [chuckles] 1176 00:55:17,805 --> 00:55:22,151 It has to do with her mood. [laughter] 1177 00:55:22,226 --> 00:55:25,479 Because I try so hard not for her to get like that 1178 00:55:25,488 --> 00:55:30,233 and then when she gets like that, it kind of ruins whatever 1179 00:55:30,318 --> 00:55:33,495 we're doing, and so it's easy to go into the dark. 1180 00:55:33,571 --> 00:55:36,165 [laughter] 1181 00:55:36,249 --> 00:55:38,408 It's easy to fall into the dark side. 1182 00:55:38,493 --> 00:55:40,002 - When we communicate with each other, we're, 1183 00:55:40,078 --> 00:55:41,995 like, respectful, we don't put each other down, 1184 00:55:42,005 --> 00:55:44,006 we're not vindictive, or any of those things, 1185 00:55:44,082 --> 00:55:47,167 it's just like being kind and respectful to each other. 1186 00:55:47,251 --> 00:55:48,668 - People that love each other-- 1187 00:55:48,678 --> 00:55:50,921 Oh, sorry, people that are married-- 1188 00:55:50,930 --> 00:55:53,599 - My husband loves me. - [laughs] 1189 00:55:53,674 --> 00:55:57,677 That eventually will love each other, 1190 00:55:57,762 --> 00:55:59,513 shouldn't talk to each other that way. 1191 00:55:59,522 --> 00:56:03,100 - I can't help notice this little word "love" 1192 00:56:03,184 --> 00:56:05,361 jockeying around here. 1193 00:56:05,445 --> 00:56:08,864 - He threw it out. [indistinct] Dr. Pepper. 1194 00:56:08,948 --> 00:56:12,534 - So has the "love" word been explored? 1195 00:56:12,610 --> 00:56:14,203 - No. 1196 00:56:14,278 --> 00:56:15,621 - That's because he 1197 00:56:15,696 --> 00:56:17,206 just doesn't want to admit that he loves me. 1198 00:56:17,290 --> 00:56:18,791 - Have you told him you love him? 1199 00:56:18,875 --> 00:56:20,209 - Yeah, have you? 1200 00:56:20,284 --> 00:56:21,960 - I have not. - Okay. 1201 00:56:22,045 --> 00:56:24,546 - Don't you guys know? Normally people know these things. 1202 00:56:24,622 --> 00:56:29,051 - So she says that she's-- 1203 00:56:29,127 --> 00:56:30,627 What's the phrase? 1204 00:56:30,637 --> 00:56:34,798 - Ay. - I've accepted. 1205 00:56:34,882 --> 00:56:36,725 - I have made the choice to love my husband. 1206 00:56:36,801 --> 00:56:38,811 - I have made the choice to love my husband. 1207 00:56:38,895 --> 00:56:40,312 Yes, I heard you. 1208 00:56:40,388 --> 00:56:41,972 - So that means you love him? 1209 00:56:41,981 --> 00:56:44,566 - That's what I'm saying. What's that mean? 1210 00:56:44,642 --> 00:56:46,485 - It just means that every day we grow closer together, 1211 00:56:46,561 --> 00:56:47,811 and then love will come and grow. 1212 00:56:47,821 --> 00:56:49,896 - Basically, it's not an answer. 1213 00:56:49,981 --> 00:56:51,815 - It doesn't sound like buddy behavior. 1214 00:56:51,825 --> 00:56:53,233 - Correct. - Hey, buddy. 1215 00:56:53,243 --> 00:56:56,486 - It doesn't--it does not. [laughter] 1216 00:56:56,496 --> 00:57:00,574 But for me, it's-- I've prematurely said 1217 00:57:00,583 --> 00:57:04,578 it before in the past and I didn't love that person, 1218 00:57:04,587 --> 00:57:07,673 and so I don't want to do that mistake again, 1219 00:57:07,748 --> 00:57:09,499 you know, it's something that I've thought about it. 1220 00:57:09,509 --> 00:57:11,585 You know, I've pondered it, 1221 00:57:11,594 --> 00:57:15,264 I've been in a car and driving, like, "I think I love her." 1222 00:57:15,339 --> 00:57:18,258 And so but I want to make sure that I actually mean it, 1223 00:57:18,342 --> 00:57:20,436 I wouldn't say it to just anybody. 1224 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:25,023 ♪ ♪ 1225 00:57:25,108 --> 00:57:27,443 - I like the fact that you have integrity about that, 1226 00:57:27,518 --> 00:57:29,769 which is terrific. 1227 00:57:29,779 --> 00:57:33,699 So this one's kind of a tougher one. 1228 00:57:33,774 --> 00:57:35,192 How much will you have to save 1229 00:57:35,201 --> 00:57:37,202 to prepare for a house and kids? 1230 00:57:37,287 --> 00:57:42,282 So you're looking at kids and a house, that's real money. 1231 00:57:42,292 --> 00:57:44,117 - Mm-hmm. 1232 00:57:44,127 --> 00:57:46,295 - Did you have to agree on how much because you make 1233 00:57:46,370 --> 00:57:48,881 more money than him-- How do you work that out? 1234 00:57:48,956 --> 00:57:50,382 - Did we put a number? 1235 00:57:50,458 --> 00:57:51,958 - I don't think we put a number. 1236 00:57:51,968 --> 00:57:53,627 For us we talked about, like, a certain percentage-- 1237 00:57:53,711 --> 00:57:55,053 - A down payment for a house-- 1238 00:57:55,129 --> 00:57:57,130 - 20% down for a down payment. 1239 00:57:57,140 --> 00:58:01,801 - And then for the kid, her main concern is 1240 00:58:01,811 --> 00:58:04,980 enough money to where we can afford a nanny. 1241 00:58:05,056 --> 00:58:07,649 - I think we talked about like making enough to where we 1242 00:58:07,725 --> 00:58:09,735 feel comfortable to, like, 1243 00:58:09,810 --> 00:58:11,561 be able to make a mortgage payment, 1244 00:58:11,571 --> 00:58:14,490 and be able to take trips, and like be able to comfortably 1245 00:58:14,574 --> 00:58:19,069 do all those things simultaneously. 1246 00:58:19,153 --> 00:58:22,664 - But, I'm not gonna enable certain things. 1247 00:58:22,749 --> 00:58:25,083 - Like what? 1248 00:58:25,159 --> 00:58:27,586 - Shopping as crazy as you do. 1249 00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:29,254 - Why not, though? 1250 00:58:29,330 --> 00:58:32,508 - Because that's not conducive to a marriage. 1251 00:58:32,583 --> 00:58:38,180 - Well, how is it affecting you for me to go shopping? 1252 00:58:38,256 --> 00:58:40,432 - You say you want to save up for this, that, and the other-- 1253 00:58:40,517 --> 00:58:42,851 - But I have--that's my-- That's always my biggest push. 1254 00:58:42,936 --> 00:58:44,686 Like, if I've been living this lifestyle, 1255 00:58:44,771 --> 00:58:47,272 I've saved quite a bit as you can see-- 1256 00:58:47,357 --> 00:58:49,525 - But if we can save--okay, let's say we keep going-- 1257 00:58:49,609 --> 00:58:52,361 - So you want me to just save that much more, okay? 1258 00:58:52,436 --> 00:58:56,022 - Yeah, let me give you an example, you like examples. 1259 00:58:56,032 --> 00:58:58,700 Let's say you stay saving like you're saving, 1260 00:58:58,785 --> 00:59:01,361 and we get there in six years, but-- 1261 00:59:01,371 --> 00:59:02,371 - I don't think we'll get there in six years 1262 00:59:02,446 --> 00:59:04,197 with the way I save. 1263 00:59:04,282 --> 00:59:06,041 - Can us please be hypothetical? 1264 00:59:06,117 --> 00:59:07,367 Let's say we get there 1265 00:59:07,451 --> 00:59:09,202 in three years, but we could get there 1266 00:59:09,212 --> 00:59:12,122 in a year and a half, wouldn't that be better? 1267 00:59:12,131 --> 00:59:14,216 - But at the cost of, like... 1268 00:59:14,292 --> 00:59:18,545 - Of shopping? - Of joy. 1269 00:59:18,555 --> 00:59:21,306 - I think I'm willing to budge on some things, 1270 00:59:21,391 --> 00:59:25,477 but I just think in general, like, the way that I live 1271 00:59:25,562 --> 00:59:30,232 is drastically different from how he would like to live. 1272 00:59:30,308 --> 00:59:32,642 If we continue to talk about things and we come 1273 00:59:32,652 --> 00:59:34,477 to a fact like, actually, I'm not gonna change, 1274 00:59:34,562 --> 00:59:35,487 you're not going to change, like, 1275 00:59:35,572 --> 00:59:36,822 this isn't gonna work out, 1276 00:59:36,897 --> 00:59:38,148 and something could potentially happen 1277 00:59:38,157 --> 00:59:41,484 before Decision Day that could alter our 1278 00:59:41,494 --> 00:59:45,080 decisions for that future that we could or could not have. 1279 00:59:45,156 --> 00:59:47,407 I think--I even think of my most recent relationship, 1280 00:59:47,491 --> 00:59:49,501 if I was--like, if I wanted something, 1281 00:59:49,577 --> 00:59:51,995 they were like, "Okay, let's do it." 1282 00:59:52,079 --> 00:59:54,089 It wasn't like, "no." 1283 00:59:54,165 --> 00:59:56,091 [tense music] 1284 00:59:56,175 --> 00:59:59,720 ♪ ♪ 1285 01:00:04,017 --> 01:00:07,010 ♪ ♪ 1286 01:00:07,020 --> 01:00:08,770 - You sure you don't wanna drive? 1287 01:00:08,846 --> 01:00:12,349 - I'm positive, we're gonna go two miles an hour. 1288 01:00:12,442 --> 01:00:15,611 - Brett, at this point, knows that I'm kind of more 1289 01:00:15,686 --> 01:00:18,855 country then anybody that she's dated, so she is picking 1290 01:00:18,865 --> 01:00:22,359 up on the extent of that, I guess, more and more. 1291 01:00:22,368 --> 01:00:23,785 - Oh, [bleep] damn. 1292 01:00:23,861 --> 01:00:29,458 ♪ ♪ 1293 01:00:29,533 --> 01:00:32,628 You know what, it's no big deal, it's totally cool. 1294 01:00:32,703 --> 01:00:34,371 ♪ ♪ 1295 01:00:34,380 --> 01:00:36,798 - Hold on. - Oh, [bleep], go ahead. 1296 01:00:36,874 --> 01:00:38,958 - I'm gonna brake it the whole--I'm gonna brake 1297 01:00:38,968 --> 01:00:40,135 it the whole way down, it's not gonna be bad. 1298 01:00:40,211 --> 01:00:42,054 - Okay, okay. 1299 01:00:42,129 --> 01:00:43,129 - I just gotta stay out of the ruts. 1300 01:00:43,139 --> 01:00:45,048 - Okay. 1301 01:00:45,058 --> 01:00:46,132 - We made it past the sketchy part. 1302 01:00:46,142 --> 01:00:48,385 - Okay. 1303 01:00:48,394 --> 01:00:49,811 Woo! 1304 01:00:49,887 --> 01:00:51,313 ♪ ♪ 1305 01:00:51,389 --> 01:00:52,981 Thank God. 1306 01:00:53,057 --> 01:00:55,317 Oh, my boobs. 1307 01:00:55,476 --> 01:00:57,486 There's something about, like, when Ryan's, 1308 01:00:57,645 --> 01:00:59,655 like, in his element. 1309 01:00:59,730 --> 01:01:01,064 This is cool. 1310 01:01:01,074 --> 01:01:02,232 - You gonna put the worm on? 1311 01:01:02,241 --> 01:01:04,234 - I've never done that before. 1312 01:01:04,327 --> 01:01:09,331 That he's a lot more enjoyable, 1313 01:01:09,407 --> 01:01:11,083 like, a lot more open. 1314 01:01:11,158 --> 01:01:13,251 - Now, press it in and hold it. 1315 01:01:13,327 --> 01:01:15,671 - [bleep], okay. - It'll still be fine. 1316 01:01:15,746 --> 01:01:17,673 Look at that, that was probably better than--better than mine. 1317 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,086 There's not a ton of things that my dad and I do together, 1318 01:01:23,096 --> 01:01:26,014 or did together growing up, but this is always one of them. 1319 01:01:26,090 --> 01:01:30,268 My childhood, he was either working or at his 1320 01:01:30,428 --> 01:01:31,603 brother's working on a race car. 1321 01:01:31,679 --> 01:01:32,929 They had like three different race cars 1322 01:01:32,939 --> 01:01:35,774 so it was always-- It was just a money pit, 1323 01:01:35,850 --> 01:01:38,193 a time wasting pit, and it caused 1324 01:01:38,352 --> 01:01:41,279 a lot of drama in our household fighting about 1325 01:01:41,355 --> 01:01:42,781 those cars, so I just hated them. 1326 01:01:42,857 --> 01:01:44,700 - Mm. 1327 01:01:44,775 --> 01:01:48,361 You know, my parents, I mean, they get along so well. 1328 01:01:48,371 --> 01:01:49,955 I know there's always a lot going on behind 1329 01:01:50,030 --> 01:01:52,031 the scenes that kids don't know about, 1330 01:01:52,041 --> 01:01:57,620 but I really had like a very, like, idyllic childhood. 1331 01:01:57,714 --> 01:01:59,456 - Yeah, 'cause what I was gonna say, when I was young, 1332 01:01:59,465 --> 01:02:02,968 I don't know that I really cared to think about marriage 1333 01:02:03,043 --> 01:02:04,377 because I don't think I really knew 1334 01:02:04,470 --> 01:02:06,045 what a good, healthy marriage was. 1335 01:02:06,055 --> 01:02:08,631 - Yeah. 1336 01:02:08,641 --> 01:02:12,060 - But yeah, going into this, 1337 01:02:12,219 --> 01:02:14,312 I mean, you think you know what to expect but, 1338 01:02:14,388 --> 01:02:17,399 I mean, we both know how to date and how 1339 01:02:17,475 --> 01:02:19,392 to be in relationships, but I don't know that 1340 01:02:19,402 --> 01:02:21,653 we knew exactly what was going to be different 1341 01:02:21,729 --> 01:02:25,240 than that, what we're familiar with. 1342 01:02:25,316 --> 01:02:29,486 - My thoughts on marriage before this, and now, 1343 01:02:29,579 --> 01:02:32,080 are the same, you know, it's like, you know, something I 1344 01:02:32,239 --> 01:02:35,492 really believe in that I've always believed in, something 1345 01:02:35,501 --> 01:02:37,586 that I think, you know, 1346 01:02:37,661 --> 01:02:40,747 requires a lot from both people. 1347 01:02:40,757 --> 01:02:42,924 - Yeah. 1348 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,927 - The thing that is always going to be the most 1349 01:02:46,086 --> 01:02:50,924 enjoyable is when people let you in and when you 1350 01:02:50,933 --> 01:02:53,518 can express yourself with somebody and be vulnerable. 1351 01:02:53,677 --> 01:02:56,679 - ♪ When I'm with you ♪ 1352 01:02:56,689 --> 01:02:59,608 ♪ When I'm with you ♪ 1353 01:02:59,683 --> 01:03:01,943 ♪ ♪ 1354 01:03:02,102 --> 01:03:04,354 - Hearing more about his family life and just, like, 1355 01:03:04,447 --> 01:03:06,615 those little anecdotes and those memories are the most 1356 01:03:06,690 --> 01:03:10,118 important that make you who you are so any morsel 1357 01:03:10,277 --> 01:03:14,280 of information that he gives me, helps me feel comfortable 1358 01:03:14,373 --> 01:03:18,084 to continue to grow things, um, yeah. 1359 01:03:20,546 --> 01:03:22,705 To ten-year-old Brett. 1360 01:03:22,715 --> 01:03:24,966 Oh, I know you're scared right now, 1361 01:03:25,125 --> 01:03:27,794 and really unsure of yourself and your place in the world, 1362 01:03:27,804 --> 01:03:29,045 but I'm here to tell you that you're 1363 01:03:29,055 --> 01:03:30,806 going to figure it all out one day. 1364 01:03:30,881 --> 01:03:32,307 I know you always want a glimpse into the future 1365 01:03:32,466 --> 01:03:34,142 and to know that 1366 01:03:34,218 --> 01:03:36,135 you'll end up happy, well, spoiler alert, you will. 1367 01:03:36,145 --> 01:03:38,897 Through your friendships, you'll discover what 1368 01:03:38,973 --> 01:03:42,651 means the most to you in this world, love. 1369 01:03:42,726 --> 01:03:44,811 Friends are family and it's okay to lean on them 1370 01:03:44,904 --> 01:03:47,155 and ask for help when you need it. 1371 01:03:47,314 --> 01:03:50,149 Through your quest for love, you may feel unworthy. 1372 01:03:50,159 --> 01:03:52,410 Our world is gonna try and harden your heart, 1373 01:03:52,570 --> 01:03:55,580 you are way more resilient than you think. 1374 01:03:55,656 --> 01:03:57,332 In every moment of heartache, 1375 01:03:57,491 --> 01:03:59,167 when you feel like you won't survive, you do, 1376 01:03:59,326 --> 01:04:01,169 and not everyone is deserving of your heart, okay? 1377 01:04:01,245 --> 01:04:04,080 Try to remember that. 1378 01:04:04,173 --> 01:04:07,333 So I leave you with this, don't let boys make you sad, 1379 01:04:07,343 --> 01:04:11,170 the right one will make you smile a lot. 1380 01:04:11,264 --> 01:04:13,515 You are beautiful inside and out, 1381 01:04:13,591 --> 01:04:16,342 your kind heart is everything, you will make an impact 1382 01:04:16,352 --> 01:04:18,094 on this world, the forever love you so 1383 01:04:18,104 --> 01:04:21,347 desire will come to you. 1384 01:04:21,357 --> 01:04:24,601 And I know how much you beg your parents for a puppy, 1385 01:04:24,610 --> 01:04:26,519 just wait a little bit more 1386 01:04:26,529 --> 01:04:28,613 because you'll find one that was worth waiting for. 1387 01:04:28,689 --> 01:04:31,941 [both chuckling] 1388 01:04:31,951 --> 01:04:33,359 - Yours is better than mine. 1389 01:04:33,369 --> 01:04:36,112 Mine is literally all over the place. 1390 01:04:36,122 --> 01:04:39,032 - All right, you ready for this? 1391 01:04:39,125 --> 01:04:42,210 - Okay, Ryan, where to begin, man? 1392 01:04:42,369 --> 01:04:44,120 You have made some very questionable decisions 1393 01:04:44,130 --> 01:04:46,715 in your 35 years, but it's truly gotten you 1394 01:04:46,790 --> 01:04:49,217 to this incredible blessed life that you live today. 1395 01:04:49,293 --> 01:04:51,794 Family, you have a solid one, spend time with all 1396 01:04:51,804 --> 01:04:53,722 of them as much as you can. 1397 01:04:53,797 --> 01:04:57,058 Unapologetically, be yourself, you're going to meet some 1398 01:04:57,134 --> 01:04:59,728 unforgettable people in your life, high school will be fun, 1399 01:04:59,887 --> 01:05:02,063 college will be more fun, pace yourself, please, 1400 01:05:02,222 --> 01:05:04,649 like, I'm begging you. 1401 01:05:04,725 --> 01:05:08,227 2019, there are no words for 2019. 1402 01:05:08,237 --> 01:05:10,655 You're going to be more unconsolably hurt 1403 01:05:10,814 --> 01:05:14,242 than you can ever imagine. 1404 01:05:14,318 --> 01:05:19,989 Andrew was one of my best friends and he was taken 1405 01:05:20,082 --> 01:05:23,585 in a freak work accident way, way, way too soon. 1406 01:05:23,661 --> 01:05:26,004 Every day is--it's never gonna be something 1407 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,081 that's--that's not on my mind, 1408 01:05:28,174 --> 01:05:31,426 but every day we just keep going. 1409 01:05:31,502 --> 01:05:35,755 To this day you live with this, express it, tell them 1410 01:05:35,765 --> 01:05:38,350 they feel it too, you'll all make it through it 1411 01:05:38,425 --> 01:05:40,727 with each other. 1412 01:05:42,179 --> 01:05:46,107 - Seeing Ryan get emotional about the tragedy with his 1413 01:05:46,183 --> 01:05:50,946 friend Andrew, it makes me proud of him that he can, like, 1414 01:05:51,021 --> 01:05:52,438 go to that place because 1415 01:05:52,531 --> 01:05:57,118 it does make me feel closer to Ryan. 1416 01:05:57,194 --> 01:05:59,779 And really, that's what I wanted this whole time. 1417 01:05:59,872 --> 01:06:02,791 ♪ ♪ 1418 01:06:02,950 --> 01:06:05,284 - On a lighter note, you married a stranger. 1419 01:06:05,294 --> 01:06:07,462 [laughter] 1420 01:06:07,538 --> 01:06:11,466 - I was like, okay, I can't do this anymore, "The end." 1421 01:06:11,542 --> 01:06:13,301 - Very good. 1422 01:06:13,377 --> 01:06:15,971 - But, it is definitely a weird feeling, writing that, 1423 01:06:16,130 --> 01:06:19,599 but it was--it left me feeling good at the end. 1424 01:06:20,977 --> 01:06:22,885 - Me, too. 1425 01:06:22,979 --> 01:06:25,647 - I don't know for certainty where the marriage stands right 1426 01:06:25,723 --> 01:06:29,392 now, but me speaking for myself, like, I feel good, 1427 01:06:29,402 --> 01:06:33,071 I feel better in the past week than I have in a long time. 1428 01:06:33,147 --> 01:06:35,657 - ♪ Can you feel it ♪ 1429 01:06:35,733 --> 01:06:40,903 ♪ All around and deep, deep down ♪ 1430 01:06:40,913 --> 01:06:44,490 ♪ Deep, deep down ♪ 1431 01:06:44,583 --> 01:06:49,921 ♪ ♪ 1432 01:06:49,997 --> 01:06:51,831 - Welcome. - Thank you. 1433 01:06:51,841 --> 01:06:55,418 So even though it wasn't long since I saw 1434 01:06:55,428 --> 01:06:58,004 you last, in Married At First Sight time, 1435 01:06:58,014 --> 01:07:00,506 that's an eternity because everything is so 1436 01:07:00,599 --> 01:07:05,186 packed with experiences and changes and all that. 1437 01:07:05,262 --> 01:07:08,431 We do get reports, all of us, all the experts, 1438 01:07:08,441 --> 01:07:10,600 but that's just a synopsis. 1439 01:07:10,609 --> 01:07:13,019 So what has happened 1440 01:07:13,029 --> 01:07:15,864 since the unanswered questions you both had? 1441 01:07:15,939 --> 01:07:17,523 I don't know how you're feeling, I don't know what you 1442 01:07:17,533 --> 01:07:20,452 said to each other, catch me up a little bit. 1443 01:07:20,527 --> 01:07:24,622 - Johnny and I talked and both agree that 1444 01:07:24,782 --> 01:07:26,875 we will work on level one. 1445 01:07:26,950 --> 01:07:30,536 - Level one is good morning? I mean, what is level one? 1446 01:07:30,546 --> 01:07:35,792 - Level one, just nothing that could escalate? 1447 01:07:35,801 --> 01:07:37,293 - What are you trying to accomplish 1448 01:07:37,303 --> 01:07:38,970 with each other now? 1449 01:07:39,129 --> 01:07:42,882 [soft dramatic music] 1450 01:07:42,892 --> 01:07:45,393 Do you think you've learned everything you can learn? 1451 01:07:45,469 --> 01:07:47,562 ♪ ♪ 1452 01:07:47,638 --> 01:07:49,806 - I can answer that one. 1453 01:07:49,899 --> 01:07:52,642 I don't think I've learned everything that I can learn, 1454 01:07:52,651 --> 01:07:56,571 but I've learned everything that--that I want to learn. 1455 01:07:56,647 --> 01:07:59,232 [dramatic notes] 1456 01:07:59,241 --> 01:08:03,653 I recently had a conversation with Bao's best friend, Sarah. 1457 01:08:03,746 --> 01:08:06,405 She's in the market for a car so we were talking about cars, 1458 01:08:06,415 --> 01:08:07,990 and then she goes, "By the way, how's 1459 01:08:08,084 --> 01:08:09,242 the relationship going, how's your marriage going?" 1460 01:08:09,251 --> 01:08:12,337 And I said, "Well, it's not going well, 1461 01:08:12,496 --> 01:08:13,996 and this is how I feel right now." 1462 01:08:14,006 --> 01:08:15,414 And the more I talk, the more she's like, 1463 01:08:15,424 --> 01:08:18,426 "Oh, actually, this totally makes sense." 1464 01:08:18,502 --> 01:08:23,098 This is what, I understand, Bao is like in relationships. 1465 01:08:23,173 --> 01:08:25,266 [dramatic music] 1466 01:08:25,342 --> 01:08:27,844 Sarah has told me, straight up, she would never date Bao, 1467 01:08:27,853 --> 01:08:29,437 and on top of that, 1468 01:08:29,513 --> 01:08:30,855 she would never allow any of her friends to date Bao 1469 01:08:30,931 --> 01:08:33,432 because she is a controlling person 1470 01:08:33,526 --> 01:08:36,528 that tries to break you down, and then get you to the point 1471 01:08:36,603 --> 01:08:39,689 where you have no choice but to lean on her, 1472 01:08:39,782 --> 01:08:42,200 and then she rebuilds you in the exact image that she wants. 1473 01:08:42,276 --> 01:08:45,194 In the past, this is what she's done. 1474 01:08:45,287 --> 01:08:48,206 And actually, that was a pretty big turning point for me. 1475 01:08:48,282 --> 01:08:52,293 It made me want to not try at all. 1476 01:08:52,369 --> 01:08:55,755 ♪ ♪ 1477 01:09:02,045 --> 01:09:05,131 - Sure, I have made my mistakes in past relationships, 1478 01:09:05,141 --> 01:09:07,550 but none of that is relevant right now. 1479 01:09:07,643 --> 01:09:10,636 I really wish you had told me that you were planning to talk 1480 01:09:10,646 --> 01:09:15,150 with Sarah, and I feel like--betrayed on both sides. 1481 01:09:15,225 --> 01:09:17,143 ♪ ♪ 1482 01:09:17,153 --> 01:09:20,071 This is what I'm always afraid of, though, you know? 1483 01:09:20,147 --> 01:09:25,160 Like, I don't have that many solid female friends. 1484 01:09:25,235 --> 01:09:29,322 Sarah is that one that I thought I could count on. 1485 01:09:29,331 --> 01:09:31,416 [sniffles] 1486 01:09:31,491 --> 01:09:33,751 She hasn't seen how patient I've been, 1487 01:09:33,827 --> 01:09:36,504 she hasn't seen how I've been communicating. 1488 01:09:36,580 --> 01:09:41,000 I am trying to be accountable for what I'm doing wrong. 1489 01:09:41,093 --> 01:09:45,504 - [sighs] That's your opinion, right? 1490 01:09:45,514 --> 01:09:48,341 - But what she's saying, and I think it's fair for you 1491 01:09:48,350 --> 01:09:54,013 to think about it, is, okay, maybe this person saw Bao 1492 01:09:54,023 --> 01:09:56,682 in a different relationship, maybe two 1493 01:09:56,692 --> 01:09:59,602 different relationships, and those are things that Bao 1494 01:09:59,695 --> 01:10:01,779 has tried not to do, 1495 01:10:01,855 --> 01:10:04,782 and doesn't think she's doing in this one. 1496 01:10:04,858 --> 01:10:08,110 And you may think, okay, no, she is. 1497 01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:11,039 So the question is, 1498 01:10:11,114 --> 01:10:14,700 what did her friend 1499 01:10:14,793 --> 01:10:17,703 give you that you felt validated by, 1500 01:10:17,713 --> 01:10:20,456 because I think the very least she deserves is 1501 01:10:20,466 --> 01:10:22,550 the right to counter all of that. 1502 01:10:22,626 --> 01:10:25,461 And, if you don't do this in front of me, fine, 1503 01:10:25,554 --> 01:10:29,891 but I think it would be very useful to Bao for you to go 1504 01:10:30,050 --> 01:10:33,469 through the conversation with Sarah, about what you said, 1505 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:37,398 and what she agreed, what she told you, and what you found 1506 01:10:37,557 --> 01:10:41,227 ratified your feelings, maybe even why you 1507 01:10:41,237 --> 01:10:43,154 believe her as an ultimate authority, 1508 01:10:43,230 --> 01:10:44,072 because you sure did believe her. 1509 01:10:44,147 --> 01:10:46,908 - [groans] 1510 01:10:46,984 --> 01:10:49,151 - I know you don't want to do the emotional work, 1511 01:10:49,161 --> 01:10:52,071 but I feel there's some 1512 01:10:52,081 --> 01:10:55,992 taking in each other's perceptions and feelings 1513 01:10:56,001 --> 01:10:58,661 that might be healing. 1514 01:10:58,671 --> 01:11:00,588 I think you owe each other that. 1515 01:11:00,664 --> 01:11:02,757 ♪ ♪ 1516 01:11:02,833 --> 01:11:05,001 - I would agree. 1517 01:11:05,010 --> 01:11:08,179 - ♪ Remember it's not always how it seems ♪ 1518 01:11:08,338 --> 01:11:11,182 ♪ I want to do all the things that we said we do ♪ 1519 01:11:11,258 --> 01:11:13,175 ♪ Be the one for you ♪ 1520 01:11:13,269 --> 01:11:17,689 ♪ Will you let me through, since it's up to you? ♪ 1521 01:11:17,848 --> 01:11:20,608 [soft dramatic music] 1522 01:11:20,684 --> 01:11:27,448 ♪ ♪ 1523 01:11:35,457 --> 01:11:40,119 - Last night, I brought up a touchy subject, 1524 01:11:40,129 --> 01:11:44,790 and now I'm just sensing some weird tension between us 1525 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:49,628 and we need to address the elephant in the room. 1526 01:11:49,638 --> 01:11:53,716 We've been up, you know, till four in the morning, 1527 01:11:53,726 --> 01:11:56,894 just talking about everything. 1528 01:11:56,970 --> 01:12:00,139 And in order to move forward, you know, I did have to tell 1529 01:12:00,149 --> 01:12:04,235 him that I did reach out to an ex-boyfriend, 1530 01:12:04,311 --> 01:12:07,322 and he answered the phone, and he was the one that 1531 01:12:07,481 --> 01:12:12,902 picked me up, and that's where I was that night, 1532 01:12:12,911 --> 01:12:14,904 the night he locked me out. 1533 01:12:14,913 --> 01:12:17,665 [tense music] 1534 01:12:30,512 --> 01:12:34,840 - Yeah, so saying that you stayed at an ex's house... 1535 01:12:34,850 --> 01:12:37,101 ♪ ♪ 1536 01:12:37,260 --> 01:12:40,513 Being clear, it was not, uh, 1537 01:12:40,606 --> 01:12:44,192 you know, something I wanted to hear. 1538 01:12:44,267 --> 01:12:46,694 Trust has always been a non-negotiable for me 1539 01:12:46,770 --> 01:12:50,106 in a relationship because my dad did cheat on my mother, 1540 01:12:50,115 --> 01:12:52,024 and so when she came out and said, "Oh, hey, by the way, 1541 01:12:52,034 --> 01:12:55,286 I stayed at my ex's house," I was like, okay. 1542 01:12:55,445 --> 01:12:57,538 - I knew I had to tell you, 1543 01:12:57,614 --> 01:13:00,625 I just didn't know when the right time would be. 1544 01:13:00,700 --> 01:13:03,452 I wanted to make sure I wasn't telling you to make 1545 01:13:03,545 --> 01:13:06,130 you jealous or to make you mad. 1546 01:13:06,206 --> 01:13:10,385 I don't want either of us to be blindsided 1547 01:13:10,460 --> 01:13:15,798 by anything and just always have complete honesty. 1548 01:13:15,891 --> 01:13:19,718 Like, you say, you know, causes of divorce are financial, 1549 01:13:19,812 --> 01:13:22,054 like, to me, what I've seen the most 1550 01:13:22,064 --> 01:13:24,723 from other people is being unfaithful. 1551 01:13:24,733 --> 01:13:30,738 ♪ ♪ 1552 01:13:30,814 --> 01:13:34,066 I want to make sure my husband never feels even slight 1553 01:13:34,076 --> 01:13:37,903 suspicion, you know, that I'm being unfaithful, 1554 01:13:37,913 --> 01:13:40,248 and I don't want to feel that from you. 1555 01:13:40,407 --> 01:13:42,992 - Yeah, I'd hope that you wouldn't do that 1556 01:13:43,001 --> 01:13:46,412 because you're married now. 1557 01:13:46,422 --> 01:13:48,414 When you were dating, it was possibly something that 1558 01:13:48,424 --> 01:13:51,917 was a little different, now that you're married, um, 1559 01:13:51,927 --> 01:13:54,429 it's a more serious situation than just dating, right? 1560 01:13:54,504 --> 01:13:57,014 There are things about Rachel's past that worry me, 1561 01:13:57,090 --> 01:13:59,600 but in a marriage, when you trust someone, 1562 01:13:59,676 --> 01:14:01,427 you trust someone. 1563 01:14:01,437 --> 01:14:04,355 The guards will definitely be up, you know, 1564 01:14:04,431 --> 01:14:05,681 but I'm taking it at face value and 1565 01:14:05,774 --> 01:14:07,266 I'm trusting her. 1566 01:14:07,359 --> 01:14:08,943 - You know, I never want you to feel 1567 01:14:09,102 --> 01:14:13,022 that I'm keeping anything from you or nothing, 1568 01:14:13,031 --> 01:14:17,193 just pure transparency and honesty. 1569 01:14:17,202 --> 01:14:21,873 - ♪ Oh, it feels like demons come break my bones ♪ 1570 01:14:21,948 --> 01:14:25,042 ♪ If you got reasons, tell me lies ♪ 1571 01:14:29,631 --> 01:14:32,124 [tense music] 1572 01:14:32,217 --> 01:14:34,793 ♪ ♪ 1573 01:14:34,803 --> 01:14:38,214 - So coming out of that talk with Dr. Pepper, I feel 1574 01:14:38,307 --> 01:14:42,968 like it would benefit both of us to talk about some things. 1575 01:14:42,978 --> 01:14:45,146 - Yeah. 1576 01:14:45,222 --> 01:14:49,058 - What do you think about it, about our session? 1577 01:14:49,067 --> 01:14:51,810 - Uh, it was good one. 1578 01:14:51,820 --> 01:14:53,988 - Okay. 1579 01:14:54,064 --> 01:14:57,650 ♪ ♪ 1580 01:14:57,659 --> 01:15:02,404 - I really hate dragging Sarah into this because I feel 1581 01:15:02,498 --> 01:15:04,916 like she had--when she spoke with me about this stuff, 1582 01:15:04,991 --> 01:15:06,909 I feel like she had good intentions, 1583 01:15:06,919 --> 01:15:10,922 she felt like I was distressed, and she just wanted to validate 1584 01:15:10,997 --> 01:15:14,583 so that someone understood what I was going through. 1585 01:15:14,593 --> 01:15:16,502 - There's a reason why 1586 01:15:16,595 --> 01:15:18,846 I haven't shared anything with Sarah 1587 01:15:19,005 --> 01:15:21,349 because I know she's not going to give me the best advice. 1588 01:15:21,424 --> 01:15:23,509 She doesn't tell me there's positives in this, 1589 01:15:23,519 --> 01:15:24,769 maybe you should look at it from this angle, 1590 01:15:24,844 --> 01:15:26,178 it's always like, "Let's move on." 1591 01:15:26,188 --> 01:15:28,013 - Yeah. 1592 01:15:28,023 --> 01:15:30,191 - And that's why I don't tell her because I'm married, 1593 01:15:30,267 --> 01:15:32,360 and I want to commit, and I want to do what I 1594 01:15:32,435 --> 01:15:34,436 can to make it better, she doesn't give me that advice. 1595 01:15:34,446 --> 01:15:37,273 Instead, it's just negative and move on, 1596 01:15:37,282 --> 01:15:39,033 cut your losses, move on. 1597 01:15:39,109 --> 01:15:41,369 I don't think, in any way, that that was actually 1598 01:15:41,528 --> 01:15:45,206 a good idea for either of you to talk, and... 1599 01:15:45,282 --> 01:15:46,958 - Yeah, but... 1600 01:15:47,033 --> 01:15:49,043 - Utterly, utterly disappointed 1601 01:15:49,119 --> 01:15:50,369 and betrayed that that happened. 1602 01:15:50,379 --> 01:15:52,538 - Okay. 1603 01:15:52,548 --> 01:15:54,707 - That was the worst person you could probably have 1604 01:15:54,716 --> 01:15:57,051 talked to at the time, and it also disappoints 1605 01:15:57,127 --> 01:15:59,128 me from a best friend perspective because I know 1606 01:15:59,137 --> 01:16:01,380 I wouldn't have done that to her. 1607 01:16:01,390 --> 01:16:02,974 ♪ ♪ 1608 01:16:03,133 --> 01:16:05,810 What did you and Sarah talk about? 1609 01:16:05,885 --> 01:16:07,979 - She asked if I'd given you, like, 1610 01:16:08,054 --> 01:16:10,731 if I'd taken time to understand you, 1611 01:16:10,807 --> 01:16:14,902 and she asked me, like, can you wake up to this 1612 01:16:14,978 --> 01:16:18,739 and go to sleep with this for the rest of your life? 1613 01:16:18,815 --> 01:16:20,566 And I said no. 1614 01:16:20,576 --> 01:16:25,162 And when a relationship has gotten to that point, 1615 01:16:25,322 --> 01:16:27,406 we need to just walk away. 1616 01:16:27,416 --> 01:16:31,827 ♪ ♪ 1617 01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:36,591 I don't want to do any more harm than I already have. 1618 01:16:36,666 --> 01:16:39,501 So I'm done talking 1619 01:16:39,595 --> 01:16:41,754 because the things that I would say would be very damaging. 1620 01:16:41,763 --> 01:16:43,889 ♪ ♪ 1621 01:16:47,102 --> 01:16:48,260 - Okay. 1622 01:16:48,270 --> 01:16:52,848 ♪ ♪ 1623 01:16:52,941 --> 01:16:57,770 I'm still here, if you want to have talks, I'm open to them. 1624 01:16:57,863 --> 01:17:00,272 Once again, ball in your court, Johnny. 1625 01:17:00,282 --> 01:17:03,776 ♪ ♪ 1626 01:17:03,785 --> 01:17:07,363 - Do you see, like, this is why I feel like 1627 01:17:07,372 --> 01:17:12,543 it's always blame Johnny game? 1628 01:17:12,619 --> 01:17:15,379 The way that you just phrased that, 1629 01:17:15,538 --> 01:17:20,384 you're still here, you're still trying. 1630 01:17:20,460 --> 01:17:23,804 - I feel like I have to walk on egg shells. 1631 01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:28,643 - I definitely do not have an appetite to finish this. 1632 01:17:28,718 --> 01:17:33,055 - I guess I'll drink this one and eat your food. 1633 01:17:33,065 --> 01:17:35,566 The rest of the champagne bottle is mine. 1634 01:17:35,725 --> 01:17:38,477 - You can have it. Good night. 1635 01:17:38,487 --> 01:17:41,322 - Good? 1636 01:17:41,398 --> 01:17:46,327 ♪ ♪ 1637 01:17:50,582 --> 01:17:53,242 - Back to yoga pants. 1638 01:17:53,251 --> 01:17:56,337 [upbeat music] 1639 01:17:56,413 --> 01:18:02,084 ♪ ♪ 1640 01:18:02,094 --> 01:18:04,169 - Welcome back. - Yeah. 1641 01:18:04,179 --> 01:18:06,514 - Maisey hasn't been here, right? Crazy. 1642 01:18:06,589 --> 01:18:08,182 - Be free. 1643 01:18:08,258 --> 01:18:10,509 ♪ ♪ 1644 01:18:10,519 --> 01:18:12,928 - I forgot about your wall. - Forgot about it? 1645 01:18:12,938 --> 01:18:15,106 That's the best part about my apartment. 1646 01:18:16,766 --> 01:18:19,935 Um, well, I had a good time. 1647 01:18:19,945 --> 01:18:21,854 - Yeah? - Yeah. 1648 01:18:21,863 --> 01:18:24,523 I was really excited to show you these. 1649 01:18:24,533 --> 01:18:26,283 - What you got? 1650 01:18:26,359 --> 01:18:28,953 Maisey, do you want to come and see? 1651 01:18:29,028 --> 01:18:32,540 - But, um, not feeling too much like talking about 1652 01:18:32,615 --> 01:18:35,876 my childhood and going through pictures together. 1653 01:18:35,952 --> 01:18:38,620 Got a text from a friend, like ten minutes ago... 1654 01:18:38,630 --> 01:18:41,540 [soft dramatic music] 1655 01:18:41,550 --> 01:18:43,375 That... 1656 01:18:43,385 --> 01:18:46,971 ♪ ♪ 1657 01:18:47,046 --> 01:18:50,057 Showed that you are on a dating app... 1658 01:18:50,133 --> 01:18:53,552 ♪ ♪ 1659 01:18:53,562 --> 01:18:57,222 And matched with someone that I know. 1660 01:18:57,232 --> 01:18:58,899 - [sighs] 1661 01:18:58,975 --> 01:19:02,478 [downbeat music] 1662 01:19:02,487 --> 01:19:08,743 - I did download it today, then it's not active right now. 1663 01:19:08,902 --> 01:19:12,571 I can show you it's not active right now. 1664 01:19:12,664 --> 01:19:14,081 - Well, you matched with someone today. 1665 01:19:14,157 --> 01:19:16,825 - Uh, I don't know. 1666 01:19:16,835 --> 01:19:20,579 [soft tense music] 1667 01:19:20,589 --> 01:19:24,583 - Got like one week left, man, couldn't have waited? 1668 01:19:24,676 --> 01:19:28,587 Waited a week to jump back in there? 1669 01:19:28,597 --> 01:19:31,590 - I wasn't even jumping back in there. 1670 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:33,759 I mean, I can show you that I didn't talk to anybody. 1671 01:19:33,769 --> 01:19:36,937 ♪ ♪ 1672 01:19:37,013 --> 01:19:42,684 - I mean, she said that y'all matched today, so... 1673 01:19:42,694 --> 01:19:44,937 I think he's afraid of being honest in a relationship. 1674 01:19:44,946 --> 01:19:46,522 I do think there's a factor of, like, 1675 01:19:46,531 --> 01:19:48,115 wanting to be with a person. 1676 01:19:48,191 --> 01:19:50,618 You obviously are going to take more steps towards 1677 01:19:50,693 --> 01:19:53,537 that and try harder, but I can only go off 1678 01:19:53,613 --> 01:19:56,698 of what I see, and to me, honesty, not his strong suit. 1679 01:19:56,708 --> 01:19:59,460 No. 1680 01:19:59,536 --> 01:20:02,955 I don't think that's right. - Yeah, no, I agree. 1681 01:20:02,964 --> 01:20:04,540 - It doesn't line up with the things that 1682 01:20:04,549 --> 01:20:09,294 you say and--about respect. 1683 01:20:09,304 --> 01:20:12,306 So if it's about respect, that ain't it. 1684 01:20:12,465 --> 01:20:15,810 - [sighs] 1685 01:20:15,885 --> 01:20:20,305 - Respect is a big deal and you made that very clear. 1686 01:20:20,315 --> 01:20:25,152 - I'm sorry, that that came up that way. 1687 01:20:25,311 --> 01:20:27,980 I mean, I would like to show you that I didn't 1688 01:20:27,989 --> 01:20:33,661 talk to anybody or that it's not even active, but... 1689 01:20:33,820 --> 01:20:36,997 - Yeah, I don't see how that's gonna help. 1690 01:20:37,156 --> 01:20:39,625 You obviously downloaded it for a reason. 1691 01:20:42,420 --> 01:20:44,672 - I'll get out of here. 1692 01:20:44,747 --> 01:20:46,674 - Okay, all right. 1693 01:20:46,749 --> 01:20:53,514 ♪ ♪ 1694 01:21:03,692 --> 01:21:05,434 - I mean, I don't care if she sees it, 1695 01:21:05,443 --> 01:21:07,027 but I'm gonna show you that it's been disabled on my phone. 1696 01:21:11,283 --> 01:21:13,868 - None of us know how to be married because we don't 1697 01:21:13,943 --> 01:21:16,203 really know what marriage is and we've never been married. 1698 01:21:16,279 --> 01:21:19,290 But the difference between Ryan and I is I know 1699 01:21:19,365 --> 01:21:23,118 what it takes to be in a relationship. 1700 01:21:23,128 --> 01:21:27,214 I know what it takes to have one, and I approach this 1701 01:21:27,290 --> 01:21:32,628 with that mindset, but Ryan, he didn't start it off that way. 1702 01:21:32,637 --> 01:21:38,884 - ♪ Let it burn, oh ♪ [notification chimes] 1703 01:21:38,894 --> 01:21:41,061 - Oh, this mother[bleep]er just texted me his, uh-- 1704 01:21:52,982 --> 01:21:56,234 That doesn't matter. That doesn't matter at all. 1705 01:21:56,244 --> 01:21:59,246 ♪ ♪ 1706 01:21:59,322 --> 01:22:04,076 - ♪ Hey ♪ 1707 01:22:04,085 --> 01:22:10,841 ♪ ♪ 1708 01:22:13,336 --> 01:22:14,920 [cheers and laughter] 1709 01:22:14,930 --> 01:22:16,922 - Next time on "Married At First Sight." 1710 01:22:16,932 --> 01:22:18,507 - I trust that you're not going to let someone 1711 01:22:18,516 --> 01:22:20,601 treat you like a doormat. 1712 01:22:20,677 --> 01:22:22,770 - With only one week left until Decision Day... 1713 01:22:22,845 --> 01:22:24,596 - I feel for him so much. - Right. 1714 01:22:24,606 --> 01:22:26,848 - Our couples will have a chance to talk 1715 01:22:26,858 --> 01:22:30,527 to their trusted loved one before making the most 1716 01:22:30,603 --> 01:22:32,771 important decision of their lives. 1717 01:22:32,864 --> 01:22:36,191 - I can't see being happy with you. 1718 01:22:36,201 --> 01:22:37,701 - There are feelings there. 1719 01:22:37,777 --> 01:22:39,361 - She's in this for the right reasons. 1720 01:22:39,371 --> 01:22:40,862 She's an amazing woman. Who knows what the future holds? 1721 01:22:40,872 --> 01:22:43,040 - He's like, "Will you spend the night," and I'm like... 1722 01:22:43,199 --> 01:22:44,282 - Did you spend the night? 1723 01:22:44,292 --> 01:22:46,952 - I did. - Oh! 1724 01:22:46,962 --> 01:22:49,705 - There's a drastic difference in our incomes. 1725 01:22:49,714 --> 01:22:53,625 - You kind of [bleep] people that aren't where you're at. 1726 01:22:53,635 --> 01:22:57,462 - That argument to me is gonna mean the end. 1727 01:22:57,472 --> 01:23:00,641 - It does take two people to sustain the marriage. 1728 01:23:00,717 --> 01:23:03,894 ♪ ♪ 1729 01:23:03,970 --> 01:23:07,147 It just takes one person to end the marriage.