1 00:00:02,598 --> 00:00:12,498 Gerry Fernando Manado, 21 November 2016 2 00:00:30,599 --> 00:00:32,807 This film dramatizes real events 3 00:00:32,974 --> 00:00:34,722 which took place between 2004 and 2013. 4 00:01:01,133 --> 00:01:04,384 Now? That here is the only alligator. 5 00:01:07,467 --> 00:01:11,630 We are four minutes over time. We go for a minute. It was clear. 6 00:01:11,798 --> 00:01:14,798 He'll come. 7 00:01:20,420 --> 00:01:24,712 He is too young to have access to such material. 8 00:01:39,416 --> 00:01:42,752 When the restaurant opens? At midday. 9 00:01:42,916 --> 00:01:47,623 But the food is a little too strong. Come with me. 10 00:01:54,957 --> 00:02:00,664 HONGKONG MANDAG DEN 3. JUNE 2013 11 00:02:07,494 --> 00:02:09,702 Pardon. 12 00:02:24,159 --> 00:02:26,242 It's here. 13 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,112 PERTURBATION PLEASE DO NOT 14 00:02:44,111 --> 00:02:47,694 It's good to finally meet you. 15 00:02:47,862 --> 00:02:52,193 May I begin by asking your mobiles, please? 16 00:02:53,445 --> 00:02:57,484 Thanks. Only Laura to record something. 17 00:02:57,652 --> 00:03:00,567 We have talked about. Thanks. 18 00:03:00,735 --> 00:03:04,774 I bought it here. The blocks UHF band. 19 00:03:10,605 --> 00:03:12,981 You have been photographed before, right? 20 00:03:13,148 --> 00:03:16,856 Yes, but it's a long time since someone has taken a picture of me. 21 00:03:17,020 --> 00:03:20,063 Try to see the camera as your friend. 22 00:03:20,231 --> 00:03:23,102 Just take your time. 23 00:03:26,518 --> 00:03:30,017 Tell us why you did what you did 24 00:03:30,185 --> 00:03:35,144 and how you got access to the huge amount of information. And ... 25 00:03:35,308 --> 00:03:40,435 Glenn. Why do not we just start with your name? 26 00:03:45,226 --> 00:03:49,181 With it navn Edward Joseph Snowden. 27 00:03:50,597 --> 00:03:56,303 I am 29 years old. I work as a consultant to the NSA. 28 00:03:56,471 --> 00:04:02,010 I have also worked as a consultant for the CIA and directly for them. 29 00:04:03,722 --> 00:04:07,801 I have worked in intelligence industry for nine years. 30 00:04:07,969 --> 00:04:11,008 I've been a systems engineer. 31 00:04:11,176 --> 00:04:14,843 I have been consulting solution 32 00:04:15,007 --> 00:04:19,218 and senior adviser to the CIA. 33 00:04:22,966 --> 00:04:25,797 So I will be in the Special Forces? Oh well! 34 00:04:25,965 --> 00:04:29,924 The Special Forces would be ashamed to call you for soldiers! 35 00:04:30,088 --> 00:04:33,215 Am I right in that? No, sir. Sergeant! 36 00:04:33,379 --> 00:04:37,131 Left right. Left. 37 00:04:37,295 --> 00:04:44,129 we first drove the Cadillac we first drove in Cadillac 38 00:04:44,293 --> 00:04:50,960 so we drove in convoy in Iraq so we drove in convoy in Iraq 39 00:04:51,128 --> 00:04:53,419 Come on, soldier! 40 00:04:56,127 --> 00:04:59,166 Move! Move! 41 00:05:01,166 --> 00:05:04,789 Come on, your inept røvbyld! Move! 42 00:05:07,248 --> 00:05:09,996 Come on, soldier! 43 00:05:10,164 --> 00:05:12,039 Come, tax basse! 44 00:05:12,207 --> 00:05:17,078 What the hell are you doing, Snowden? Where is your husband's heart? 45 00:05:17,246 --> 00:05:21,161 Now you need to rip it out of your pathetic chicken breast! 46 00:05:21,329 --> 00:05:24,992 Find the man's heart and get your svæklingerøv up in the tower! 47 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,036 Yes, sir! Non so! 48 00:05:28,992 --> 00:05:32,035 I have to get up in my tower, gentlemen! Come on! 49 00:05:35,282 --> 00:05:37,282 Move! Come on! 50 00:05:38,534 --> 00:05:43,780 Up and hop, little pig! Release dick and came out of the barracks! 51 00:05:43,948 --> 00:05:48,240 You have one minute! Move! 52 00:06:00,237 --> 00:06:02,405 Fuck! 53 00:06:03,612 --> 00:06:06,236 Help! 54 00:06:06,404 --> 00:06:10,651 Where the hell is Snowden of? Help! 55 00:06:12,194 --> 00:06:17,233 You've gone around on two broken legs for weeks. 56 00:06:18,981 --> 00:06:24,316 That's what happens when you get 35 kg backpack on a 65 kilos body. 57 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,063 You get stress fractures. Calm. Pardon. 58 00:06:28,231 --> 00:06:32,606 More and more of them, and suddenly breaks the bone together. 59 00:06:32,770 --> 00:06:39,397 You have to be hospitalized a few weeks, and then you get eight weeks on crutches. 60 00:06:39,561 --> 00:06:41,768 When I come back? 61 00:06:41,936 --> 00:06:47,311 If you land on the leg again, your bones to dust. 62 00:06:48,519 --> 00:06:52,310 You get an administrative repatriation. 63 00:06:52,810 --> 00:06:55,473 You can serve your country in many other ways. 64 00:07:04,015 --> 00:07:05,391 GEEK MATE.COM NEW MESSAGE 65 00:07:09,806 --> 00:07:12,598 "Ghost in the Shell" is also one of my favorites. 66 00:07:12,762 --> 00:07:15,637 Are you so pale in reality? 67 00:07:17,721 --> 00:07:21,928 Have you committed a crime, you were not taken? 68 00:07:22,096 --> 00:07:23,927 No. 69 00:07:26,179 --> 00:07:29,258 Have you cheated on an exam? 70 00:07:29,426 --> 00:07:31,258 No. 71 00:07:32,841 --> 00:07:36,756 Do you think America is the best country? Yes. 72 00:07:36,924 --> 00:07:40,424 Why would you into the CIA? 73 00:07:40,592 --> 00:07:44,215 How would you explain the Internet for a child? 74 00:07:44,383 --> 00:07:48,506 Your grandfather retired as admiral and started the FBI. 75 00:07:48,674 --> 00:07:51,129 Your father is in the Coast Guard. 76 00:07:51,297 --> 00:07:54,213 What is your life's most important day? 77 00:07:54,381 --> 00:07:58,420 September 11. We thought my grandfather was in the Pentagon. 78 00:07:58,588 --> 00:08:01,419 It was found that he was elsewhere that day. 79 00:08:01,587 --> 00:08:07,042 You would be entered in the Special Forces? Yes. I love their motto. 80 00:08:07,210 --> 00:08:10,833 "The oppresso liber." Is that what you want to achieve here? 81 00:08:11,001 --> 00:08:13,293 To liberate people from oppression? 82 00:08:13,457 --> 00:08:16,748 I want to help my country to make a difference in the world. 83 00:08:16,916 --> 00:08:20,499 The Internet is a technology 84 00:08:20,667 --> 00:08:25,330 to help everyone in the world to understand each other. 85 00:08:25,498 --> 00:08:30,581 You were one point from a perfect result in the army entrance examination. 86 00:08:30,745 --> 00:08:33,996 Top results in language acquisition test. 87 00:08:34,164 --> 00:08:37,536 A little mandarin, a little Japanese. 88 00:08:39,411 --> 00:08:43,410 And no high school exam. Why did you stop in high school? 89 00:08:43,578 --> 00:08:48,701 I had to make money. My parents were about to separate. 90 00:08:48,869 --> 00:08:52,700 Other sources of inspiration? Joseph Campbell. 91 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,031 "Star Wars". Thoreau. 92 00:08:58,199 --> 00:09:03,074 Ayn Rand. "One man can stop the world's wheels." 93 00:09:03,238 --> 00:09:06,445 "And the world trembled." Yes. I believe it. 94 00:09:06,613 --> 00:09:11,572 Let's try again. Why would you into the CIA? 95 00:09:15,236 --> 00:09:17,819 For that to be honest, 96 00:09:19,819 --> 00:09:24,526 it sounds nicely cool to have the highest security clearance. 97 00:09:32,276 --> 00:09:33,860 It is not enough. 98 00:09:40,858 --> 00:09:45,149 Normally. But we are not in a normal time. 99 00:09:46,857 --> 00:09:52,148 Bombs will not stop terror, it makes brains, and we have not enough of. 100 00:09:52,312 --> 00:09:57,978 I'll give you a chance, Snowden. Thanks. That you will not regret. 101 00:09:58,146 --> 00:10:03,353 My name is Corbin O'Brian. I am among other senior instructor. 102 00:10:03,517 --> 00:10:06,769 You need to be taught by me on The Hill. 103 00:10:06,933 --> 00:10:10,352 Stop the vehicle and turn off the engine. 104 00:10:12,183 --> 00:10:14,143 May I see some ID? 105 00:10:16,850 --> 00:10:20,390 Okay. Open the engine compartment, but only with the left hand. 106 00:10:23,057 --> 00:10:27,848 Put your hands on the dash through the steering wheel. Through the steering wheel. 107 00:10:28,012 --> 00:10:31,927 On the dashboard. Do not leave the vehicle. 108 00:10:42,469 --> 00:10:46,300 CIA'S TRAINING, VIRGINIA "THE HILL" 2006 109 00:10:48,716 --> 00:10:54,590 Pardon? Corbin teach further down. 110 00:10:54,758 --> 00:11:01,049 Thanks. Is it an Enigma machine ? No. Enigma was cracked. 111 00:11:01,213 --> 00:11:04,840 This is the sequel SIGABA that was never broken. 112 00:11:05,004 --> 00:11:07,504 The Cold War's best encryption machine. 113 00:11:07,672 --> 00:11:11,711 The story was created by this engine and these rotors. 114 00:11:11,879 --> 00:11:15,002 One day everyone will want a machine like this. 115 00:11:15,170 --> 00:11:18,585 I've always wanted to learn cryptography. What is it? 116 00:11:18,753 --> 00:11:23,876 The hot line. The first line between Washington and Moscow. 117 00:11:24,044 --> 00:11:27,707 It probably prevented World War III. 118 00:11:27,875 --> 00:11:31,207 What's your name? How do I know you are not the enemy? 119 00:11:31,375 --> 00:11:34,626 Pardon. Ed Snowden. Hank Forrester. 120 00:11:34,790 --> 00:11:37,997 Where did you read? I am primarily self-taught. 121 00:11:38,165 --> 00:11:42,080 Just say, if you are busy, but it's a Cray 1? 122 00:11:42,248 --> 00:11:48,995 Yes, it is. The world's first supercomputer. 123 00:11:49,163 --> 00:11:53,162 Now we have the processing power on mobile. Yes. Are you an engineer? 124 00:11:53,330 --> 00:11:57,037 Whether I am an engineer? And director and advisor. 125 00:11:57,201 --> 00:11:59,329 I'll keep an eye on you computer technicians. 126 00:11:59,493 --> 00:12:03,408 Make sure you do not succumb to the pressure. Ends on drugs and booze. 127 00:12:03,576 --> 00:12:06,907 I do not drink and do not do drugs. 128 00:12:07,075 --> 00:12:11,906 What is your favorite cargo so? Computers. 129 00:12:12,074 --> 00:12:16,905 Now Snowden. So you ended in the right whorehouse. 130 00:12:18,905 --> 00:12:24,863 The front in the global war on terror is not Iraq or Afghanistan. 131 00:12:25,031 --> 00:12:27,195 It's here. 132 00:12:27,363 --> 00:12:30,614 And in London. Berlin. 133 00:12:32,114 --> 00:12:34,029 Istanbul. 134 00:12:34,193 --> 00:12:37,069 Any server or connection. 135 00:12:37,237 --> 00:12:41,320 This time the battleground is everywhere. 136 00:12:43,775 --> 00:12:49,858 This means you do not have to sit in a trench and dodging mortar fire. 137 00:12:50,026 --> 00:12:53,897 This means that if we get a new September 11 138 00:12:54,065 --> 00:12:57,856 then it's your fault. 139 00:12:58,024 --> 00:13:02,439 Just like the last one was my generation's fault. 140 00:13:02,607 --> 00:13:06,394 And the burden will not be on your shoulders. 141 00:13:10,937 --> 00:13:14,893 We begin with a test. 142 00:13:15,061 --> 00:13:18,976 I need to build a secure, hidden network in your city. 143 00:13:21,767 --> 00:13:27,682 You must launch it, make a backup, destroy it and put it up again. 144 00:13:27,850 --> 00:13:32,601 The meaning of this is that you should keep your infrastructure running safely. 145 00:13:32,765 --> 00:13:39,555 It takes an average of five hours. I fail if it takes over eight. 146 00:14:04,802 --> 00:14:07,050 Hr. O'Brian? 147 00:14:07,218 --> 00:14:09,049 I'm done. 148 00:14:09,217 --> 00:14:11,841 You do not tell me when you're done with a sub-target. 149 00:14:12,008 --> 00:14:16,216 No, I am completely finished. There has been 40 minutes. 150 00:14:16,380 --> 00:14:19,131 38. What? 151 00:14:19,299 --> 00:14:22,006 38 minutes. 152 00:14:23,590 --> 00:14:26,797 Okay. Let's see how you fucked up. 153 00:14:46,709 --> 00:14:50,708 They said we had to do it in order, so I ... 154 00:14:50,872 --> 00:14:57,163 I drove the backup automatically while I designed the system. 155 00:14:58,583 --> 00:15:01,246 Look at your screens. 156 00:15:06,829 --> 00:15:09,704 Hr. O'Brian? 157 00:15:10,828 --> 00:15:14,827 What should I do now? Just what you want. 158 00:15:28,234 --> 00:15:30,150 Are you also so pale in reality? 159 00:15:51,526 --> 00:15:53,774 Hello. Hello. 160 00:15:55,274 --> 00:15:58,026 Finally. Yes. 161 00:16:01,526 --> 00:16:03,858 Pardon. 162 00:16:07,194 --> 00:16:12,150 Would you like ... something? No. Let's go for a walk. 163 00:16:13,402 --> 00:16:18,858 You could use some sun. Yes. It wrote you sooner. 164 00:16:20,066 --> 00:16:25,066 Sorry it took so long. You would not see me with crutches. 165 00:16:25,234 --> 00:16:28,818 I was not particularly mobile. And then I got this new job. 166 00:16:28,982 --> 00:16:33,442 What is it you're doing? Analyses of the Foreign Ministry. 167 00:16:33,610 --> 00:16:36,274 Congratulations. Thanks. 168 00:16:36,442 --> 00:16:41,610 Do not just pointing towards the Foreign Ministry? 169 00:16:45,734 --> 00:16:50,818 It is over there. Where? Are you sure? 170 00:16:50,982 --> 00:16:56,526 I do not have good sense of direction. You are also not good to lie. 171 00:16:56,694 --> 00:17:00,858 You may be better for both if you need to be a spy. 172 00:17:01,026 --> 00:17:04,442 In my hometown all worked for "Foreign Affairs". 173 00:17:04,610 --> 00:17:08,066 And every time you walked into my website this week 174 00:17:08,234 --> 00:17:11,650 which was quite often, get your IP address from Virginia. 175 00:17:11,818 --> 00:17:14,402 Kan spore IP address? Ja. 176 00:17:14,566 --> 00:17:18,982 Ministry of Foreign Affairs has shown no offices in Virginia. 177 00:17:27,566 --> 00:17:30,234 Show what you can. What? 178 00:17:30,402 --> 00:17:33,442 Show what you can. Go catwalk. 179 00:17:35,026 --> 00:17:38,694 Do not be shy. You may well. 180 00:17:43,358 --> 00:17:45,526 I do not know ... 181 00:17:50,566 --> 00:17:55,942 No to Bush, no to bombs. No to Bush, no to bombs. 182 00:17:56,110 --> 00:17:59,694 Will you sign? Definitely. 183 00:18:01,858 --> 00:18:04,110 Thanks. Thank you. And you? 184 00:18:04,274 --> 00:18:06,194 No thanks. 185 00:18:07,858 --> 00:18:11,694 Will you sign? I have just made. 186 00:18:13,358 --> 00:18:15,982 A little too much free thought? 187 00:18:16,150 --> 00:18:19,858 I just do not like to criticize my country. 188 00:18:20,026 --> 00:18:24,358 It is also my country, and right now it has blood on his hands. 189 00:18:26,150 --> 00:18:28,942 Pardon. I have friends who are over there now. 190 00:18:29,110 --> 00:18:33,774 I'm not talking about the soldiers, but the idiot who sent them to war. 191 00:18:33,942 --> 00:18:37,650 Do you think our leader? Yes. He is wrong. 192 00:18:37,818 --> 00:18:40,482 How do you know that? You just blowing off steam. 193 00:18:40,650 --> 00:18:43,318 No, I doubt our government. 194 00:18:43,482 --> 00:18:46,734 It is the principle that the country is founded. 195 00:18:46,902 --> 00:18:51,526 But what to doubt the liberal press? 196 00:18:51,694 --> 00:18:55,858 You buy quite uncritically what one side says. 197 00:18:56,026 --> 00:18:59,442 Perhaps. Because my side is right. 198 00:18:59,610 --> 00:19:02,818 It's funny, my side is right. Reach? 199 00:19:04,482 --> 00:19:08,150 Why do intelligent rightwing me always so mad? 200 00:19:08,318 --> 00:19:10,982 Probably because you do not like to hear the truth. 201 00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:14,982 You're a very frustrating person. Do you know that? 202 00:19:16,402 --> 00:19:22,150 How do I get you to see it? I see very well, thank you. 203 00:19:28,694 --> 00:19:31,066 Does it help? 204 00:19:31,234 --> 00:19:36,194 No, it did not for me. It tasted too leftist. 205 00:19:36,358 --> 00:19:39,234 I'm not to. 206 00:19:40,734 --> 00:19:45,110 "Bush allow wiretapping without a court order." 207 00:19:45,274 --> 00:19:48,902 Allows the Constitution that bypasses the justice system? 208 00:19:49,066 --> 00:19:53,358 No. The fourth constitution supplement prohibits raids without warrants. 209 00:19:53,526 --> 00:19:56,566 Quite correctly, Rio. And that means, 210 00:19:56,734 --> 00:20:01,858 to your leader, US President breaks the law. 211 00:20:03,482 --> 00:20:06,026 Is that what you're saying, Rio? 212 00:20:06,194 --> 00:20:10,234 It's going well depends ... who you are talking to. 213 00:20:10,402 --> 00:20:13,110 Now if you talk to journalists? 214 00:20:13,274 --> 00:20:18,274 More often than not seeing the full picture or will not write about it. 215 00:20:18,442 --> 00:20:21,194 There is only part of the truth. 216 00:20:23,982 --> 00:20:28,234 The law on foreign powers' intelligence. FISA law. 217 00:20:28,402 --> 00:20:32,026 We respect the fourth forfatningstillæg. 218 00:20:32,194 --> 00:20:34,982 We issue orders. 219 00:20:35,150 --> 00:20:38,982 But sometimes the orders issued by a secret court 220 00:20:39,150 --> 00:20:41,982 so we do not warn them, we spying. 221 00:20:42,150 --> 00:20:46,818 These legal proceedings are secret, so ... surprise ... 222 00:20:46,982 --> 00:20:51,442 You can not read about in the New York Times. 223 00:20:51,610 --> 00:20:56,858 So you my test results? Yes. I was also in the top like you. 224 00:20:57,026 --> 00:20:58,942 Her? – NSA. 225 00:20:59,110 --> 00:21:02,358 They loved me. They put me on the best teams. 226 00:21:02,526 --> 00:21:07,234 Soviet front. Gulf War. And so the new, big challenge. 227 00:21:07,402 --> 00:21:11,858 Find the terrorists in the Internet haystack. It is an enormous haystack. 228 00:21:12,026 --> 00:21:16,482 Hundreds of terabytes per minute. It would take 400 years to read the e mails. 229 00:21:16,650 --> 00:21:21,442 And then they are analyzed. The more one looks, the less one sees man. 230 00:21:22,818 --> 00:21:25,566 What have you found in? Something beautiful. Here in the house. 231 00:21:25,734 --> 00:21:29,358 Three million dollars. A program that can distinguish between foreign 232 00:21:29,526 --> 00:21:31,358 and American information. 233 00:21:31,526 --> 00:21:34,982 And encrypt everything, we do not investigate, so it remains private. 234 00:21:35,150 --> 00:21:40,150 It was elegant, streamlined. The best I have ever created. 235 00:21:40,318 --> 00:21:43,442 Take a seat. 236 00:21:43,610 --> 00:21:45,774 What was it? 237 00:21:52,318 --> 00:21:57,650 Ed, to reach the top in our world 238 00:21:57,818 --> 00:22:01,274 may erode a part of one. 239 00:22:01,442 --> 00:22:05,650 You think you are making progress. 240 00:22:05,818 --> 00:22:09,194 You think you take the initiative. 241 00:22:09,358 --> 00:22:12,110 And then obliterates the only one's work. 242 00:22:12,274 --> 00:22:17,234 They used it not? Why not? They never say why. 243 00:22:18,902 --> 00:22:21,358 Two years later, after September 11, 244 00:22:21,526 --> 00:22:25,566 an old friend tells me about a new program they have bought from outside. 245 00:22:25,734 --> 00:22:30,402 It cost four billion US dollars, and it was made by my program. 246 00:22:30,566 --> 00:22:34,066 But without filters, without automation. 247 00:22:34,234 --> 00:22:39,358 It ate everything. They drowned in data. It was a disaster. 248 00:22:39,526 --> 00:22:43,318 But there must have been madness. 249 00:22:43,482 --> 00:22:45,858 To spend so much money ... They're not stupid. 250 00:22:46,026 --> 00:22:50,818 You would think that intelligence mattered in the intelligence world. 251 00:22:50,982 --> 00:22:55,650 Want to know what it is that sets the agenda? 252 00:22:56,982 --> 00:23:02,358 Military industrial satisfaction. 253 00:23:02,526 --> 00:23:07,902 You keep cash boxes open in Congress, so the money flows, 254 00:23:08,066 --> 00:23:11,818 and efficiency and results, it smokes out with the bathwater. 255 00:23:11,982 --> 00:23:15,694 Not to mention ... 256 00:23:16,858 --> 00:23:21,110 You'll be late for lessons. Alright thanks. 257 00:23:23,234 --> 00:23:26,026 Can I take a new one? Cloudy. 258 00:23:32,194 --> 00:23:34,942 Have you ever said anything to anyone? 259 00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:39,274 I went to the legal department. We filed a complaint. 260 00:23:39,442 --> 00:23:43,902 Now I sit here, tucked out of the way and teach you. 261 00:23:46,026 --> 00:23:50,150 Perhaps it is more important in the long run. Getting better and better. 262 00:24:06,110 --> 00:24:10,274 My favorite place here at the center. 263 00:24:10,442 --> 00:24:12,902 Do you go hunting, Ed? 264 00:24:15,734 --> 00:24:19,902 I have shot some clay pigeons with my father, but no. 265 00:24:20,066 --> 00:24:23,610 We can go hunting one day. I would like to. 266 00:24:23,774 --> 00:24:27,274 Sir. O'Brian, may I ask ...? How about you call me Corbin? 267 00:24:27,442 --> 00:24:31,650 Okay. Tak. Corbin. 268 00:24:31,818 --> 00:24:36,274 I spoke with Hank Forrester, and I want to know 269 00:24:36,442 --> 00:24:41,482 on all our signal monitoring aimed at specific goals? 270 00:24:41,650 --> 00:24:45,442 Of course. What else would they benefit? 271 00:24:46,858 --> 00:24:49,150 The next I was not. 272 00:24:50,526 --> 00:24:55,982 Do you have a boyfriend, Ed? Not such a right. 273 00:24:56,150 --> 00:24:59,110 What is her name? Lindsay. 274 00:24:59,274 --> 00:25:01,858 Is she with you? 275 00:25:02,026 --> 00:25:05,234 No, I will not expose her to danger. 276 00:25:05,402 --> 00:25:09,110 You do not. You're not going to the Middle East. 277 00:25:13,318 --> 00:25:18,566 I'm the best on the team. Does not that mean something? 278 00:25:18,734 --> 00:25:23,774 In 20 years, Iraq is a hell on earth, as all do not care. 279 00:25:23,942 --> 00:25:26,066 Terrorism is a short-term threat. 280 00:25:26,234 --> 00:25:30,358 The real danger comes from China, Russia, Iran. 281 00:25:30,526 --> 00:25:33,442 And it comes in the form of SQL injections and malware. 282 00:25:33,610 --> 00:25:38,066 Without people like you will this country be smashed in cyberspace. 283 00:25:38,234 --> 00:25:43,150 I will not put you at risk of a ridiculous war of sand and oil. 284 00:25:45,234 --> 00:25:47,194 It amazes me. 285 00:25:47,358 --> 00:25:52,150 One need not agree with the politicians to be a patriot. 286 00:25:55,026 --> 00:25:59,442 Where should I go? Take a break. Enjoy the view. 287 00:26:06,318 --> 00:26:11,442 HONG KONG TUESDAY, June 4, 2013 288 00:26:20,610 --> 00:26:22,858 It's Laura. 289 00:26:23,026 --> 00:26:26,902 Hello. Nice to meet you. 290 00:26:27,066 --> 00:26:30,358 Ewen MacAskill from the Guardian. Nice to meet you. 291 00:26:30,526 --> 00:26:33,610 I want to record ... 292 00:26:35,610 --> 00:26:38,110 Mobiles should be in the microwave. Why? 293 00:26:38,274 --> 00:26:41,734 We'll get to after you've asked your questions. 294 00:26:41,902 --> 00:26:44,982 Before we get to the story, I must know something more about you. 295 00:26:45,150 --> 00:26:51,234 You've had an interesting career, but we must have proof of ... 296 00:26:51,402 --> 00:26:54,650 Here is my diplomatic passport to Buddy nations. 297 00:26:54,818 --> 00:26:58,194 My tourist passports for everywhere else. You can check visa temples. 298 00:26:58,358 --> 00:27:01,774 With NSA skilt fra Booz Allen. With CIA skilt fra Dell. 299 00:27:01,942 --> 00:27:05,442 And my instructor divorced from Military Intelligence. 300 00:27:05,610 --> 00:27:08,610 Here is a picture of me with Michael Hayden, 301 00:27:08,774 --> 00:27:12,026 the former head of the NSA and CIA. 302 00:27:12,194 --> 00:27:14,734 When can I publish it? 303 00:27:14,902 --> 00:27:17,694 May I sit down? Here you go. 304 00:27:20,026 --> 00:27:26,150 Glenn says, you will reveal your identity. How would the United States react? 305 00:27:26,318 --> 00:27:28,982 They will accuse me of spying. 306 00:27:29,150 --> 00:27:32,274 And they will say, I have put national security at risk. 307 00:27:32,442 --> 00:27:35,402 They will demonize me, my friends and my family. 308 00:27:35,566 --> 00:27:39,358 And then they'll throw me in jail. And it is at best. 309 00:27:39,526 --> 00:27:41,150 And at worst? 310 00:27:41,318 --> 00:27:45,694 If I did not cover, I am taken by the CIA 311 00:27:45,858 --> 00:27:48,902 and interrogated without legal limits. 312 00:27:49,066 --> 00:27:53,818 They have a station right up there. How do they know what you've done? 313 00:27:53,982 --> 00:27:57,150 I left digital tracks in my logs. 314 00:27:57,318 --> 00:28:01,566 I will not hounded. I know what they would do to my colleagues. 315 00:28:02,734 --> 00:28:09,194 Sir. MacAskill, it is not about money or anything. 316 00:28:09,358 --> 00:28:12,026 No hidden agenda. These data should be out 317 00:28:12,194 --> 00:28:14,610 for established journalists like you 318 00:28:14,774 --> 00:28:18,566 so I can show the world ones, and so can the people themselves choose. 319 00:28:18,734 --> 00:28:21,150 Whether I'm wrong on it 320 00:28:21,318 --> 00:28:25,858 or it takes something the US government, which is totally wrong. 321 00:28:28,774 --> 00:28:31,818 So ... 322 00:28:31,982 --> 00:28:38,066 This includes everything I have on your British intelligence. 323 00:28:38,234 --> 00:28:40,942 There comes an encryption key later. 324 00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:46,734 The engineers at The Guardian must see it through. There is strong. 325 00:28:50,402 --> 00:28:54,734 They will investigate it, and they will find out what I've done. 326 00:28:54,902 --> 00:28:58,610 And then they will go after me. And now that we have been in contact, 327 00:29:00,482 --> 00:29:03,610 they will also go after you. 328 00:29:10,526 --> 00:29:13,026 Can I look in the microwave? 329 00:29:19,858 --> 00:29:22,318 THE GUARDIAN U.S. NEW YORK–REDAKTIONEN 330 00:29:22,482 --> 00:29:26,650 Ewen, I'm here with Stuart. Hello, Ewen. 331 00:29:26,818 --> 00:29:33,194 Hey, Stuart. I must say one thing. They have good Guinness here. 332 00:29:33,358 --> 00:29:36,650 It's the real thing. Well. 333 00:29:36,818 --> 00:29:38,982 But quite different than one might think. 334 00:29:39,150 --> 00:29:44,902 Now we deal with lawyers and no doubt the White House. 335 00:29:46,274 --> 00:29:48,982 I got the green light. Let's get started. 336 00:29:49,150 --> 00:29:54,026 There is much we have to go through. We can show him XKeyscore. 337 00:29:54,194 --> 00:29:57,818 Good idea. Can you figure it out and review it for us? 338 00:30:04,650 --> 00:30:09,318 Are we all in there below? He protects his passwords. 339 00:30:09,482 --> 00:30:12,026 Okay. 340 00:30:15,942 --> 00:30:21,942 This was introduced in my first time at the CIA in Geneva. 341 00:30:22,110 --> 00:30:26,774 XKeyscore. What can it? 342 00:30:26,942 --> 00:30:30,194 It is a search program. 343 00:30:31,774 --> 00:30:35,150 What do the following? Whatever you want. 344 00:30:36,982 --> 00:30:39,694 What was your job in Geneva? 345 00:30:39,858 --> 00:30:43,650 I worked under diplomatic protection in the United Nations auspices 346 00:30:43,818 --> 00:30:47,818 maintain the CIA's computer security network. 347 00:30:49,902 --> 00:30:54,526 I had been almost two years on the CIA offices around. 348 00:31:02,026 --> 00:31:04,818 Sorry, but I do not understand. 349 00:31:04,982 --> 00:31:09,234 You hacked HR department's website. I need to find security holes. 350 00:31:09,402 --> 00:31:14,066 HR department's website is not your problem. You went too far. 351 00:31:14,234 --> 00:31:17,194 Just to explain, so I do not hacked website. 352 00:31:17,358 --> 00:31:20,194 I demonstrated that one could hack it. You asked me to find a solution. 353 00:31:20,358 --> 00:31:22,358 Do you have what the font? Yes. 354 00:31:22,526 --> 00:31:25,274 I sent you the proof of concept. 355 00:31:28,066 --> 00:31:31,694 Regardless, Snowden, then you must leave this kind for some others. 356 00:31:31,858 --> 00:31:35,066 He has complained about you in your file. 357 00:31:35,234 --> 00:31:40,358 He will not call me back with Ed Snowden situation. 358 00:31:44,274 --> 00:31:49,194 Take it easy the rest of the day. Take care of the data to be deleted. 359 00:31:54,358 --> 00:31:57,110 It was shown not so good. Hello. 360 00:31:57,274 --> 00:32:00,734 No, I got a annotation to do my work. 361 00:32:00,902 --> 00:32:04,650 It's pure politics. Fear culture wins again. 362 00:32:04,818 --> 00:32:06,942 I can not get something done here. 363 00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:11,526 What about the idea that we talked about? I am working on. 364 00:32:11,694 --> 00:32:14,442 I'm waiting for a call from our friend at The Hill. 365 00:32:14,610 --> 00:32:17,566 Have you called Corbin? Do you think he can do anything? 366 00:32:17,734 --> 00:32:20,694 Perhaps some work in the field under my supervision. 367 00:32:20,858 --> 00:32:23,818 Yes, that would be fantastic. Quiet now, Ed. 368 00:32:23,982 --> 00:32:28,234 I must speak with one in Milan. When looking. Okay. Thanks. 369 00:32:46,442 --> 00:32:49,942 CIA does not like to leave tracks what? 370 00:32:50,110 --> 00:32:52,358 Do not you want to try one of? 371 00:32:52,526 --> 00:32:55,610 Look what an insane killing mission you are about to delete? 372 00:32:55,774 --> 00:32:58,526 Who are you? Downplays Its Activities. 373 00:32:58,694 --> 00:33:03,650 Gabriel Sol. I am the genius of the secret troldmandslav. 374 00:33:03,818 --> 00:33:06,858 Pardon? I have information about Bucharest. 375 00:33:07,026 --> 00:33:09,566 Unless there is another Dave Churchyard. 376 00:33:09,734 --> 00:33:12,194 No, it's me. This way. 377 00:33:16,026 --> 00:33:18,526 I'll wait outside. You may well be here. 378 00:33:18,694 --> 00:33:22,774 I do not have permission to use NSA programs. 379 00:33:22,942 --> 00:33:28,734 If you must bring it to Bucharest, you must have approval for the data. 380 00:33:28,902 --> 00:33:32,402 Then you probably also like to see how they are collected. 381 00:33:34,566 --> 00:33:36,482 It's up to you. 382 00:33:41,150 --> 00:33:44,902 Are the names I get? It's much more than that. 383 00:33:45,066 --> 00:33:48,318 What I give you and the fine gentlemen of the Secret Service, 384 00:33:48,482 --> 00:33:52,858 is a list of all threats against the president since 3 February. 385 00:33:53,026 --> 00:33:56,858 And a profile of all those who have threatened. 386 00:33:57,026 --> 00:34:00,650 Is the existing targets? 387 00:34:00,818 --> 00:34:04,234 99% comes from the collection program. 388 00:34:04,402 --> 00:34:08,358 Upstream, Muscular, Tempora, PRISM. – PRISM? 389 00:34:10,026 --> 00:34:12,694 There is little snow over you. 390 00:34:12,858 --> 00:34:17,526 So now I feel as witch who gives you a poisoned apple. 391 00:34:17,694 --> 00:34:21,734 Proof A: Oakland citizen Justin Pinsky wrote in a forum: 392 00:34:21,902 --> 00:34:24,610 "Romania executes often their leaders. 393 00:34:24,774 --> 00:34:28,402 Could they not do us a favor and neck Bush? " 394 00:34:28,566 --> 00:34:31,358 This looks boldly out. It is from a Google chat. 395 00:34:31,526 --> 00:34:33,526 I attack your bush ... 396 00:34:33,694 --> 00:34:38,234 "... With the biggest python, you've ever seen." 397 00:34:38,402 --> 00:34:40,774 How can this be done? 398 00:34:40,942 --> 00:34:45,482 Keyword. "Attacking", "neck", "bush". 399 00:34:45,650 --> 00:34:48,902 It's like a Google search , but instead of searching only in it 400 00:34:49,066 --> 00:34:52,194 people publish, we are also in what they keep secret. 401 00:34:52,358 --> 00:34:57,610 E mail, chat, sms. The entire quilt. Yes, but which people? 402 00:34:57,774 --> 00:35:00,026 The entire kingdom, Snow White. 403 00:35:06,696 --> 00:35:11,320 Hvilken ambassadør var han nu? – De la Hoya, WTO. 404 00:35:26,944 --> 00:35:29,652 Well, O'Brian might well help. 405 00:35:29,820 --> 00:35:33,904 He also believes that your talent is wasted. Ready for some action? 406 00:35:34,072 --> 00:35:38,280 Really? Do you mean right here? Yes. 407 00:35:38,444 --> 00:35:41,196 Can you see her in the pink case over there? 408 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,196 Credit Suisse. JP Morgan stands next to. 409 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,820 Grandma is from Deutsche Bank. There are 10,000 bankers here in town 410 00:35:47,988 --> 00:35:49,860 and you need only turn the clutches of one of them. 411 00:35:50,028 --> 00:35:53,612 Socialize with them. Preferably one that sits on a pile 412 00:35:53,780 --> 00:35:59,236 with black, Saudi money that finances bin Laden. 413 00:35:59,404 --> 00:36:04,112 He is either a fool or a spy. 414 00:36:07,488 --> 00:36:10,112 He asks to have your business card. 415 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,944 An ambassador. I wish I was as good to ingratiate myself. 416 00:36:15,112 --> 00:36:19,280 That's what you have me for. Do you know anyone bankers? 417 00:36:19,444 --> 00:36:22,652 Bankers? Are you in a job? 418 00:36:24,612 --> 00:36:30,072 I must cultivate some relationships, and it goes badly. 419 00:36:30,236 --> 00:36:34,280 Let me help. No, this is real. 420 00:36:34,444 --> 00:36:36,736 Yes I know. Trust me. 421 00:36:39,196 --> 00:36:42,612 Had you luck with you? There was no bite. 422 00:36:42,780 --> 00:36:45,528 Is there a trick, you have to be? 423 00:36:45,696 --> 00:36:48,696 You have to know where to tap to. 424 00:36:48,860 --> 00:36:51,488 Then you just have to push them. 425 00:36:53,488 --> 00:36:56,112 You appear summoned. 426 00:37:00,196 --> 00:37:03,696 Marwan, may I just interrupt? It's my boyfriend Dave. 427 00:37:03,860 --> 00:37:06,196 Nice to meet you, Dave. You too. 428 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,072 Marwan working in Monfort. We talked, 429 00:37:09,236 --> 00:37:13,320 and after the last week he can maybe give you some tips. 430 00:37:13,488 --> 00:37:16,572 See you inside, gentlemen. Last week? 431 00:37:16,736 --> 00:37:20,444 He is a little embarrassed about it. It was a lot of money for us. 432 00:37:22,652 --> 00:37:27,196 Stock exchange trading is a dangerous sport. One should not be ashamed of losses. 433 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,780 I take some food. Should we see inside? 434 00:37:30,944 --> 00:37:32,904 Clear. 435 00:37:33,072 --> 00:37:35,944 It is a beautiful girlfriend you have. Thank you. 436 00:37:36,112 --> 00:37:40,404 I work in IT, and I thought I could break the market 437 00:37:40,572 --> 00:37:42,404 as it was a poorly protected network. 438 00:37:42,572 --> 00:37:46,028 May I ask how extensive your loss was? 439 00:37:46,196 --> 00:37:50,404 I told Lindsay that it was 20,000, but between the two of us 440 00:37:50,572 --> 00:37:55,112 it was closer to 45. I tried to win it back. 441 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,572 It was a mistake, and now I feel that I lose control. 442 00:37:59,736 --> 00:38:05,904 I've seen it many times and I can help you to break bad habits. 443 00:38:06,072 --> 00:38:08,280 I appreciate it. 444 00:38:09,404 --> 00:38:12,780 It is the most innocent Pakistani, I have ever seen. 445 00:38:12,944 --> 00:38:17,820 He has no direct connection to the government or intelligence service. 446 00:38:17,988 --> 00:38:22,280 Lots of indirect relationships, but it has all rich in the Middle East. 447 00:38:22,444 --> 00:38:26,404 We do not find any dirt as such. Just something to push him. 448 00:38:26,572 --> 00:38:31,696 Something private. A weakness of a species. Can we look at his family? 449 00:38:33,528 --> 00:38:37,280 What about his sister? 450 00:38:42,236 --> 00:38:46,612 Is it any video, she sent? No, it's alive. 451 00:38:46,780 --> 00:38:49,820 From Paris. What do you mean by "live"? 452 00:38:49,988 --> 00:38:52,944 Optic Nerve. It can activate webcams. 453 00:38:53,112 --> 00:38:55,196 It is encoded by the British. 454 00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:00,320 Enable? Yes, her laptop is turned off. 455 00:39:00,488 --> 00:39:04,696 And how would she know? Webcam light does not turn on. 456 00:39:12,572 --> 00:39:16,736 I've always wondered what would have underneath them there. 457 00:39:21,860 --> 00:39:26,028 Let's stick to the family in Geneva. Okay? 458 00:39:26,196 --> 00:39:29,152 Okay, Snow White. 459 00:39:30,028 --> 00:39:33,528 A 15 year-old daughter at the International School. 460 00:39:33,696 --> 00:39:37,988 Facebook? Is it possible? Facebook is my whore. 461 00:39:38,152 --> 00:39:42,488 If she argues with his parents ... 462 00:39:42,652 --> 00:39:46,112 Do not worry. I know how to fish. 463 00:39:47,652 --> 00:39:50,612 The name. An e address a keyword. Anything. 464 00:39:50,780 --> 00:39:54,988 And so the grounds. Here I write something. 465 00:39:57,028 --> 00:40:00,280 In other words, we make her father CIA informant. 466 00:40:00,444 --> 00:40:02,572 Is that it? Yes, mate. 467 00:40:02,736 --> 00:40:06,280 Should you not have a warrant from the FISA right? 468 00:40:06,444 --> 00:40:10,780 Not here. XKey fall within section 702, so we do not need a warrant. 469 00:40:10,944 --> 00:40:14,652 But it must have the goal in the US, right? 470 00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:18,236 You mean FISA? Yes, but that's just a formality. 471 00:40:18,404 --> 00:40:21,572 FISA's judges are appointed by the Supreme Court. 472 00:40:23,904 --> 00:40:28,028 Darth Vader field of national security. Such. 473 00:40:31,612 --> 00:40:36,988 And the boy gave her finger, is ... 474 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,780 ... Nadim. Okay. 475 00:40:42,488 --> 00:40:47,652 He is 18 years old. Salma wants to marry him. 476 00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:52,236 And what she does not know is that his second name is ... 477 00:40:52,404 --> 00:40:54,572 ... Nicolas. 478 00:40:54,736 --> 00:40:58,820 And right now he fucks Geraldine and Juliet. 479 00:40:58,988 --> 00:41:00,988 And ... 480 00:41:04,196 --> 00:41:08,696 He and his Turkish mother staying illegally in this country. 481 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,860 There we have it. 482 00:41:27,860 --> 00:41:32,196 What are we doing here? You make people very happy. 483 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:38,444 Marwan bank handles saudi money and a lot of Russian billions. 484 00:41:38,612 --> 00:41:43,444 Is there any al Qaeda money? Anything promising? 485 00:41:43,612 --> 00:41:47,820 Ed, I will soon be promoted, and I will not forget my friends. 486 00:41:47,988 --> 00:41:53,860 Thanks. But this goes a little fast. I have just sent background info. 487 00:41:54,028 --> 00:41:57,072 There he is. Hello, Marwan. 488 00:41:57,236 --> 00:42:01,652 Dave. Great to see you. You too. 489 00:42:01,820 --> 00:42:05,944 I watched. You cheated you an extra half hour. 490 00:42:06,112 --> 00:42:10,236 She just listened to an old man's lament. 491 00:42:10,404 --> 00:42:13,780 Well, yes. How is it, Marwan? 492 00:42:16,028 --> 00:42:19,572 I must say, Dave, that since I met you, 493 00:42:19,736 --> 00:42:23,320 my life has been turned upside down. 494 00:42:23,488 --> 00:42:26,028 I'm sorry to hear that. 495 00:42:26,196 --> 00:42:30,696 But your colleague Charles here has been so nice to offer help. 496 00:42:30,860 --> 00:42:35,780 So I owe him and you. May I ask what happened? 497 00:42:35,944 --> 00:42:38,988 My daughter had a ... 498 00:42:39,152 --> 00:42:43,612 Marwan's daughter took too many sleeping pills. She's okay. 499 00:42:43,780 --> 00:42:47,112 It was something her boyfriend, who was deported. 500 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,944 We try that obtaining a visa for him. 501 00:42:50,112 --> 00:42:54,404 But I am afraid that Salma will ... 502 00:42:54,572 --> 00:42:58,072 Pardon. I'll not trouble you. 503 00:42:58,236 --> 00:43:03,360 Just talk loose. The family is the most important. 504 00:43:16,612 --> 00:43:19,572 Where is my little beauty? 505 00:43:19,736 --> 00:43:23,152 This is what I do usually never. 506 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:28,236 Sit just down here. Wait here. Just sit down. 507 00:43:31,820 --> 00:43:33,780 What the hell is going on? 508 00:43:33,944 --> 00:43:38,736 I acted quickly to good intelligence, you sourced. 509 00:43:38,904 --> 00:43:43,196 And if his daughter had died of it? Then we would also use it. 510 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,528 Seriously? For a promotion? 511 00:43:48,612 --> 00:43:51,780 Marwan must be with his family now. 512 00:43:51,944 --> 00:43:56,820 So tomorrow, when he stands to prison, we kill a deal. 513 00:43:56,988 --> 00:43:59,152 Prison? For what? 514 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:04,528 Drinking and Driving. You call the police. Say you saw a Mercedes ... 515 00:44:04,696 --> 00:44:07,944 No, he must not drive now. He kills himself. 516 00:44:10,528 --> 00:44:13,360 Okay. So I call. 517 00:44:13,528 --> 00:44:15,944 He must not drive. 518 00:44:16,112 --> 00:44:21,944 Do you have permission to use any of the NSA programs? 519 00:44:22,112 --> 00:44:25,488 So we've both suffered made crap. 520 00:44:25,652 --> 00:44:29,736 Beware, Ed. I tell him who you are. 521 00:44:29,904 --> 00:44:35,528 If you reveal an agent, do you smoke into much longer than Marwan. 522 00:44:56,404 --> 00:45:00,028 Hello. I'm sorry, it was so late. 523 00:45:01,820 --> 00:45:04,112 How did it work? 524 00:45:06,072 --> 00:45:08,736 It went ... 525 00:45:08,904 --> 00:45:10,696 It went okay. 526 00:45:10,860 --> 00:45:16,944 I need around three hours. My flight goes at seven. 527 00:45:20,652 --> 00:45:24,028 So we must hurry. 528 00:46:08,488 --> 00:46:11,860 I will provide our law enforcers 529 00:46:12,028 --> 00:46:14,696 with tools to neutralize terrorists 530 00:46:14,860 --> 00:46:18,028 without undermining the Constitution and our freedom. 531 00:46:18,196 --> 00:46:21,780 This means we no longer illegal call to listen to Americans. 532 00:46:21,944 --> 00:46:26,652 We must no longer ignore the law when they do not suit us. 533 00:46:26,820 --> 00:46:29,280 Hey darling. Hello. 534 00:46:29,444 --> 00:46:33,280 What about the trip to London? 535 00:46:33,444 --> 00:46:35,696 I will not go. 536 00:46:38,944 --> 00:46:42,072 What happens? Who's winning? 537 00:46:44,860 --> 00:46:48,612 It is still too early to decide. 538 00:46:52,944 --> 00:46:57,528 Obama leads by 67% against 32%. Come on, Dumbo. 539 00:46:57,696 --> 00:47:00,236 Let's check out Florida. 540 00:47:04,652 --> 00:47:07,404 Holy shit, he wins. 541 00:47:07,572 --> 00:47:09,320 I Florida? – Ja! 542 00:47:09,488 --> 00:47:12,904 It is big. It's huge. 543 00:47:13,072 --> 00:47:17,360 You can play nonchalant, but I know that you begin to keep up with him. 544 00:47:17,528 --> 00:47:21,572 You become more liberal. And I take a bit of credit for. 545 00:47:21,736 --> 00:47:24,612 And it has you deserved. 546 00:47:27,196 --> 00:47:29,488 What is it? 547 00:47:32,904 --> 00:47:35,112 Yes, just let it sit. 548 00:47:37,028 --> 00:47:42,112 Russian hackers. CIA says they can activate webcams. 549 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,072 Klamt. Yes, it bothers me really. 550 00:47:46,236 --> 00:47:51,028 But it does not matter. Do not? 551 00:47:51,196 --> 00:47:54,320 That someone could sit and look at you now? 552 00:47:54,488 --> 00:47:58,028 No, I have nothing to hide. 553 00:47:58,196 --> 00:48:03,112 It's such bullshit to say. That you do not have anything to hide. 554 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,360 I do not have that. It has all. 555 00:48:06,528 --> 00:48:09,572 What do I have to hide? 556 00:48:09,736 --> 00:48:13,488 Forget it. No. What have I got to hide? 557 00:48:13,652 --> 00:48:17,072 Apparently you mean, I hide anything. 558 00:48:17,236 --> 00:48:22,488 Okay, the other day you were at the site, where we met. 559 00:48:22,652 --> 00:48:26,404 You looked at the other guys. Did you look at my computer? 560 00:48:26,572 --> 00:48:30,360 I would not have mentioned it. You asked me what you hide, 561 00:48:30,528 --> 00:48:34,236 and there was something you did not tell me about. 562 00:48:36,488 --> 00:48:40,488 I do not do anything. I did not meet with the people. 563 00:48:43,988 --> 00:48:48,112 You are away for weeks at a time. I look into the lives of others 564 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,404 because my own is paused. 565 00:48:51,572 --> 00:48:55,280 It sounds like an excuse. It is true. 566 00:49:11,444 --> 00:49:17,736 I should have told you about it, and I did not. Pardon. 567 00:49:17,904 --> 00:49:21,196 But it does not matter. 568 00:49:33,904 --> 00:49:37,612 Look at me. I do not want anyone else. 569 00:49:38,696 --> 00:49:43,320 I do not want any other life. Okay? 570 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,652 Listen up ... 571 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:07,404 I did not go to London today because I quit. 572 00:50:07,572 --> 00:50:12,572 What? There were disagreements. A matter of principle. 573 00:50:14,152 --> 00:50:16,528 Can you tell me more? 574 00:50:19,612 --> 00:50:24,028 Are you then been transferred? No, I quit the CIA. 575 00:50:25,236 --> 00:50:28,404 What do we do now? I do not know. 576 00:50:28,572 --> 00:50:31,904 I find that out, but listen right here ... 577 00:50:33,152 --> 00:50:36,360 It's good it here. Trust me. 578 00:50:41,196 --> 00:50:43,572 I do. 579 00:50:55,072 --> 00:50:57,736 He wins. 580 00:50:59,404 --> 00:51:01,780 He has just to do. 581 00:51:01,944 --> 00:51:08,612 CNN predicts that Barack Obama, 47, becomes president. 582 00:51:08,780 --> 00:51:14,028 Strengths and ministries should know that this government is not supporting them 583 00:51:14,196 --> 00:51:18,112 will withhold information but those who will find it. 584 00:51:20,930 --> 00:51:25,350 Janine is web editor for a small, British newspaper 'USA editorial, 585 00:51:25,514 --> 00:51:28,558 which is up against the world's mightiest government. 586 00:51:28,722 --> 00:51:30,058 She will not let it drive. 587 00:51:30,222 --> 00:51:35,806 We must make it clear that we do not threaten safety by publishing it. 588 00:51:35,974 --> 00:51:40,930 The core of this is that the White House know that Janine sitting on 589 00:51:41,098 --> 00:51:44,222 a leaked, top secret FISA court order . 590 00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:49,558 They can sue The Guardian. They beat the door in anytime. 591 00:51:50,682 --> 00:51:57,222 The clock is ticking. We must consider doing it on our own website. 592 00:51:57,390 --> 00:52:01,014 You can not just throw items on the Internet. 593 00:52:01,182 --> 00:52:04,014 Take WikiLeaks. It smashed their credibility. 594 00:52:04,182 --> 00:52:09,350 Will it not done properly, the world will not take it seriously. 595 00:52:09,514 --> 00:52:14,930 Experienced journalists must explain these complex cases. 596 00:52:15,098 --> 00:52:18,514 We are experienced journalists. I think ... 597 00:52:25,890 --> 00:52:29,350 Any calls this before? Not only once in three weeks. 598 00:52:29,514 --> 00:52:32,766 Should I take it? I can say it's the wrong number. 599 00:52:34,182 --> 00:52:35,638 And? 600 00:52:36,806 --> 00:52:39,014 No I will not. 601 00:52:39,930 --> 00:52:41,850 Okay. Thanks. 602 00:52:43,766 --> 00:52:46,722 They asked if I wanted a bed-and said 603 00:52:46,890 --> 00:52:50,474 that "do not disturb" sign was taken down. 604 00:53:06,682 --> 00:53:08,098 Now? 605 00:53:09,058 --> 00:53:11,890 Should we wait or do it yourself? 606 00:53:13,850 --> 00:53:18,974 I have always said that I decide how it comes out. 607 00:53:19,138 --> 00:53:22,766 I just pray that I Close scrutiny of the data and responsible. 608 00:53:22,930 --> 00:53:27,430 No names or details. No current, which is still going on. 609 00:53:27,598 --> 00:53:31,138 Keep the focus on mass surveillance, and let people decide for themselves. 610 00:53:31,306 --> 00:53:35,306 I promise, but it's not what the question is. 611 00:53:36,306 --> 00:53:40,806 Janine to hold teleconference with intelligence services. 612 00:53:40,974 --> 00:53:46,182 It's going to happen in a few hours. Let us wait for it. 613 00:53:46,350 --> 00:53:49,014 See what they say to her. 614 00:53:52,266 --> 00:53:54,350 Let's wait. 615 00:53:55,930 --> 00:54:00,350 Let's meet here after they talked. At midnight. 616 00:54:00,514 --> 00:54:04,138 So it's noon in New York. Okay. 617 00:54:05,058 --> 00:54:07,850 While I look at PRISM story again. 618 00:54:08,014 --> 00:54:12,350 We are on our rooms if you need to reach us. 619 00:54:21,638 --> 00:54:24,930 Can we take a break from that? 620 00:54:27,098 --> 00:54:29,222 Yes sorry. 621 00:54:29,390 --> 00:54:34,974 Want to see it? Maybe you get better then. The recorder is not now. 622 00:54:39,638 --> 00:54:43,598 When it began there not to care about being photographed? 623 00:54:43,766 --> 00:54:49,138 Enough in Japan. Every time a camera pointed at me, it was ... 624 00:54:50,138 --> 00:54:53,390 I could not breathe. Why? 625 00:54:53,558 --> 00:54:58,098 I probably looked too much on other people through cameras. 626 00:54:59,138 --> 00:55:01,514 Japan was the first NSA job, right? 627 00:55:01,682 --> 00:55:06,390 Yes, I was a consultant at Dell. I had access to much. 628 00:55:06,558 --> 00:55:09,850 Why did you return after Geneva? 629 00:55:12,098 --> 00:55:15,558 Because of money, and I wanted to stay in Japan. 630 00:55:15,722 --> 00:55:20,390 And because of Obama. I thought it would be better with him. 631 00:55:23,722 --> 00:55:25,598 I was mistaken. 632 00:55:28,682 --> 00:55:30,890 YOKOYA LUFTBASEN, TOKYO 633 00:55:31,058 --> 00:55:33,306 What was it like to be there? 634 00:55:33,474 --> 00:55:37,222 During the morning, I made a backup system 635 00:55:37,390 --> 00:55:39,514 called Epic Shelter. 636 00:55:39,682 --> 00:55:45,182 If terrorists for example burned all embassies 637 00:55:45,350 --> 00:55:49,138 and NSA stations in the Middle East down, secured program 638 00:55:49,306 --> 00:55:52,266 that we would not lose any data. 639 00:55:52,430 --> 00:55:56,638 But I had to put aside when there were visitors. 640 00:55:56,806 --> 00:56:02,638 NSA wanted to impress the Japanese. To show what we could. 641 00:56:02,806 --> 00:56:06,098 They loved the live images from drones. 642 00:56:06,266 --> 00:56:09,890 This is right now in Pakistan. 643 00:56:13,098 --> 00:56:16,638 They were not so excited that we would have their help 644 00:56:16,806 --> 00:56:19,806 to spy on the Japanese people. 645 00:56:19,974 --> 00:56:22,514 They said it was forbidden. 646 00:56:23,850 --> 00:56:26,974 We bugged course the country anyway. 647 00:56:27,138 --> 00:56:31,058 And it did not stop there. When we took over their systems 648 00:56:31,222 --> 00:56:34,138 we went for the physical infrastructure. 649 00:56:34,306 --> 00:56:40,014 We started small programs into the mains, dams, hospitals. 650 00:56:40,182 --> 00:56:44,722 The idea was that if Japan one day no longer our allies 651 00:56:44,890 --> 00:56:47,430 so we could put the country down. 652 00:56:49,850 --> 00:56:53,474 And it was not just Japan. We planted malware in Mexico, 653 00:56:53,638 --> 00:56:56,474 Germany, Brazil, Austria. 654 00:56:57,974 --> 00:57:02,390 China, I understand. Or Russia or Iran. Venezuela, okay. 655 00:57:02,558 --> 00:57:04,682 But Austria? 656 00:57:05,682 --> 00:57:10,514 They were also ordered to follow most state and industry leaders. 657 00:57:10,682 --> 00:57:15,474 Follow trades sex scandals diplomatic notes 658 00:57:15,638 --> 00:57:19,558 to give the United States an advantage in G8 negotiations 659 00:57:19,722 --> 00:57:23,266 or something to push Brazilian oil companies. 660 00:57:23,430 --> 00:57:27,638 Or help dedicate recalcitrant third world leaders. 661 00:57:29,058 --> 00:57:34,182 Eventually you realize that whatever you justify it with 662 00:57:34,350 --> 00:57:37,138 so it's not about terrorism. 663 00:57:37,306 --> 00:57:39,930 Terror is the excuse. 664 00:57:42,722 --> 00:57:47,430 This is about economic and social power. 665 00:57:49,098 --> 00:57:54,138 And the only thing to protect is the same government supremacy. 666 00:58:03,306 --> 00:58:06,558 Did you go to the press at the time? 667 00:58:06,722 --> 00:58:10,638 No, it would not have occurred to me then. 668 00:58:10,806 --> 00:58:15,598 I thought that the system would right itself again. 669 00:58:15,766 --> 00:58:19,598 The President would keep the promise that secured him the victory. 670 00:58:20,974 --> 00:58:24,514 It was actually there, I started reading about you and your film. 671 00:58:24,682 --> 00:58:28,722 Glen wrote on her blog that you were detained at airports. 672 00:58:28,890 --> 00:58:32,850 37 times. To examine one's own country's wars. 673 00:58:33,014 --> 00:58:36,430 That's why I go back to Berlin to cut the movie. 674 00:58:36,598 --> 00:58:39,722 You can trust me. So do I. 675 00:58:41,182 --> 00:58:45,390 I have not trusted anyone for years. 676 00:58:48,514 --> 00:58:53,722 It was nice to be put to work with terror. 677 00:58:54,638 --> 00:58:58,474 Every day I aim for my Sig Int. 678 00:58:58,638 --> 00:59:01,098 Thus monitoring signal . 679 00:59:02,306 --> 00:59:05,850 Many of them were Americans, which was strange 680 00:59:06,014 --> 00:59:08,306 but you remind yourself about 681 00:59:08,474 --> 00:59:12,350 that could prevent a bomb attack and save thousands. 682 00:59:12,974 --> 00:59:18,474 But it follows not only his goal, but also all their metadata. 683 00:59:18,638 --> 00:59:23,390 Basically, all the phone numbers they connect to. 684 00:59:23,558 --> 00:59:29,806 Let's say the goal is a sinister Iranian banker from Beirut. 685 00:59:29,974 --> 00:59:34,974 It monitors his data, but also everyone he communicates with. 686 00:59:35,138 --> 00:59:40,138 Including his cousin who just a dentist from Buffalo. 687 00:59:40,306 --> 00:59:43,638 And then you should also monitor all his contacts. 688 00:59:43,806 --> 00:59:48,766 When you reach the third indent monitor a bartender 689 00:59:48,930 --> 00:59:52,266 is chatting with his mother about Botox. 690 00:59:52,430 --> 00:59:56,766 For three limbs from anyone who has 40 contacts 691 00:59:56,930 --> 01:00:00,598 it provides 2.5 million people. 692 01:00:02,890 --> 01:00:08,682 And then there's the moment when you realize how big it is. 693 01:00:08,850 --> 01:00:13,098 NSA keeps track of all mobile phones in the world. 694 01:00:13,266 --> 01:00:17,598 No matter who you are, you find yourself constantly in a database 695 01:00:17,766 --> 01:00:20,850 where you can be monitored. 696 01:00:21,014 --> 01:00:23,182 I APPROVES THE TERMS OF SERVICE AND PRIVACY POLICY 697 01:00:31,350 --> 01:00:35,474 And not only terrorists or countries and companies. 698 01:00:35,638 --> 01:00:37,430 It is you. 699 01:00:45,598 --> 01:00:47,974 Was Lindsay with you in Japan? 700 01:00:49,390 --> 01:00:52,722 Japan was ... very for us. 701 01:00:55,682 --> 01:00:58,890 You could not talk about your work. No. 702 01:01:01,222 --> 01:01:04,098 There was an evening towards the end, 703 01:01:04,266 --> 01:01:08,890 where we had to climb Mt. Fuji next day. 704 01:01:19,722 --> 01:01:24,474 Do you want to put it up on Twitter? No. They are for me. 705 01:01:25,558 --> 01:01:30,430 What do you think? I think you should delete them. 706 01:01:30,598 --> 01:01:33,722 It was not the art criticism, I hoped to get. 707 01:01:33,890 --> 01:01:38,098 Sorry, but you can not have that kind of lying on your hard drive. 708 01:01:38,266 --> 01:01:42,306 Please do not delete them, I ask you? 709 01:01:43,138 --> 01:01:46,306 Russian hackers again? No. 710 01:01:47,930 --> 01:01:49,598 Is it us? 711 01:01:52,306 --> 01:01:55,850 It's classified. Am I a target? 712 01:01:56,014 --> 01:02:00,722 Of course not. Some see my nude photos. 713 01:02:01,182 --> 01:02:05,306 I should not have mentioned it. It's about national security. 714 01:02:07,350 --> 01:02:12,974 Lovely, my boobs are so important, but just try again. 715 01:02:13,138 --> 01:02:16,222 I would rather not talk about things that can get us into prison. 716 01:02:16,390 --> 01:02:19,722 Is that what the patches is about? And your camera phobia. 717 01:02:19,890 --> 01:02:23,598 Is it working? They look for us? 718 01:02:23,766 --> 01:02:27,390 Who keeps an eye on? Nobody. Let us keep quiet. 719 01:02:28,682 --> 01:02:34,890 Let's go to bed, wake up in the morning and then climb the shit mountain. 720 01:02:36,890 --> 01:02:39,474 Of course we should not talk about it. 721 01:02:39,638 --> 01:02:42,514 We never talk about anything anymore. 722 01:02:42,682 --> 01:02:45,682 You get depressed home after 12 hours of work. 723 01:02:45,850 --> 01:02:48,350 So playing computer and fall asleep. 724 01:02:48,514 --> 01:02:52,890 I'm tired because I have a job that pay for our expensive apartment. 725 01:02:53,058 --> 01:02:56,850 You invited me, knowing that I had no work visa. 726 01:02:57,014 --> 01:03:02,058 Else would you give up your life filled with food, sleep and city tours? 727 01:03:02,222 --> 01:03:05,014 Do you want a career? A career like yours? 728 01:03:05,182 --> 01:03:07,430 Where I feel like hell for? No. 729 01:03:07,598 --> 01:03:10,890 It's called being responsible. 730 01:03:11,058 --> 01:03:12,722 Fuck this. 731 01:03:12,890 --> 01:03:16,974 You have no idea how it is to have responsibility for the lives of others. 732 01:03:17,138 --> 01:03:22,182 In your fairytale without consequences is no one gets hurt. 733 01:03:25,850 --> 01:03:30,182 No. It is you who never gets hurt. 734 01:03:31,430 --> 01:03:35,098 I will be completely smashed. I've done nothing you! 735 01:03:35,266 --> 01:03:37,598 Exactly! You have done nothing! 736 01:03:37,766 --> 01:03:40,722 You does not hang out with me. You do not laugh with me. 737 01:03:40,890 --> 01:03:43,390 You touch fucking do not know me. 738 01:03:45,474 --> 01:03:48,222 Pardon. Stop! No! 739 01:04:01,890 --> 01:04:08,474 We never came up at Fuji. Lindsay traveled shortly after. 740 01:04:11,222 --> 01:04:16,722 I was very lonely there. After three months, I went to Maryland. 741 01:04:44,598 --> 01:04:49,182 I promised her to change me, and we moved together again. 742 01:04:49,350 --> 01:04:53,850 Keep your legs bent, and then you can stretch them out when I can. 743 01:04:54,014 --> 01:04:58,890 1, 2, 3. All the way up. Pinch to his knees. 744 01:04:59,058 --> 01:05:02,514 It burns, but it does well. Perfect. 745 01:05:02,682 --> 01:05:04,766 Turn around. 746 01:05:05,766 --> 01:05:08,182 Perfect! I'm so proud of you! 747 01:05:08,350 --> 01:05:13,474 When one is happy, is there a part of you that will continue. 748 01:05:17,558 --> 01:05:21,514 One thinks: What can be more important than this? 749 01:05:21,682 --> 01:05:26,182 What? Oh god, where is it beautiful. 750 01:05:27,558 --> 01:05:31,474 Many people wading happily through life. 751 01:05:32,974 --> 01:05:35,474 Why can not I too? 752 01:05:35,638 --> 01:05:38,558 A MAN'S BENEFIT DEPENDS ON WHETHER HE MEETS HIS IDEALS 753 01:05:43,682 --> 01:05:45,890 I started at the CIA again. 754 01:05:47,014 --> 01:05:50,514 My title was the solution consultant. 755 01:05:50,682 --> 01:05:54,058 Basically I sold hardware overpriced. 756 01:05:54,222 --> 01:05:58,806 I thought you had resigned. It was purely contractual work. 757 01:05:58,974 --> 01:06:05,806 Booz Allen Hamilton or Dell in collaboration with the CIA, NSA and DIA. 758 01:06:06,850 --> 01:06:10,974 It is the intelligence world of revolving door. 759 01:06:12,222 --> 01:06:15,138 How was it to be back in the US? 760 01:06:15,306 --> 01:06:17,014 It was ... 761 01:06:17,182 --> 01:06:19,722 It was nice to be home again. 762 01:06:20,806 --> 01:06:24,682 But in Maryland turned the cask for me. 763 01:06:25,890 --> 01:06:32,390 Every time I felt I let go of fear and doubt, 764 01:06:32,558 --> 01:06:37,182 I found out something else that I could not ignore. 765 01:06:37,350 --> 01:06:43,974 There were three top officials at NSA. Bill Binney, Ed Loomis and Kirk Wiebe. 766 01:06:44,138 --> 01:06:47,766 They had filed complaints about abuses of power for years. 767 01:06:47,930 --> 01:06:52,138 They did not do anything other than file complaints. 768 01:06:52,306 --> 01:06:55,222 And the FBI conducted raids on their homes. 769 01:06:55,390 --> 01:06:58,182 And then there was Thomas Drake. As the other three 770 01:06:58,350 --> 01:07:01,390 Drake tried to change the system from within. 771 01:07:01,558 --> 01:07:04,182 But when it did not work, he went to the press. 772 01:07:04,350 --> 01:07:09,390 He was charged with espionage and we were all shocked. 773 01:07:09,558 --> 01:07:12,890 Why were you charged with? They would send a message. 774 01:07:13,058 --> 01:07:16,722 To whom? For other whistleblowers. 775 01:07:16,890 --> 01:07:21,390 "Shut your mouth. Conditions not power the truth 776 01:07:21,558 --> 01:07:23,638 otherwise we smashes you. " 777 01:07:24,930 --> 01:07:29,806 NSA in Oahu develop a new program. 778 01:07:30,930 --> 01:07:34,558 You should be up to the Chinese cyber services. 779 01:07:35,974 --> 01:07:37,974 Are you interested? 780 01:07:39,558 --> 01:07:41,930 You do not get a fortune in salaries which now 781 01:07:42,098 --> 01:07:46,890 but you will serve your country well, and I know that means something to you. 782 01:07:47,058 --> 01:07:50,474 Just like in Geneva? It was a mistake. 783 01:07:50,638 --> 01:07:53,722 We should not have pushed you. You did not. 784 01:07:53,890 --> 01:07:57,806 I asked for field work, and it got me. It blames not I tell you. 785 01:07:59,058 --> 01:08:02,014 Is there anything you blame me? 786 01:08:05,430 --> 01:08:08,974 You did not say we pulled seine worldwide, Corbin. 787 01:08:32,974 --> 01:08:35,430 Good shooting, Ed. Thanks. 788 01:08:36,266 --> 01:08:38,098 Excellent. 789 01:08:38,266 --> 01:08:41,474 It was the only, I was good at in the army. 790 01:08:46,638 --> 01:08:51,182 Have you thought about that 60 years have passed since the Second World War, 791 01:08:51,350 --> 01:08:54,350 and we still have not had a third? 792 01:08:54,514 --> 01:08:59,974 Why? Because we use our power the world's best. 793 01:09:01,014 --> 01:09:03,806 To create wealth. Guild. 794 01:09:03,974 --> 01:09:07,850 How can we defend ourselves against nuclear war, terrorist attacks, 795 01:09:08,014 --> 01:09:13,430 cyber attacks without a central intelligence around the clock? 796 01:09:13,598 --> 01:09:17,058 So we should catalog the billions af human life? 797 01:09:17,222 --> 01:09:20,638 They already do through their consumption. 798 01:09:20,806 --> 01:09:26,098 Yes, a part of their lives, and it is voluntary. We take the just everything. 799 01:09:26,266 --> 01:09:30,682 Most Americans will not have freedom. They want security. 800 01:09:30,850 --> 01:09:34,598 It is a simple barter. Good dog. Good dog. 801 01:09:34,766 --> 01:09:38,558 If you want to play with the latest toys and be safe 802 01:09:38,722 --> 01:09:41,514 then you have to pay the price. 803 01:09:41,682 --> 01:09:46,222 But people do not know they have entered the trade. 804 01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:49,430 Where is the battlefield now, soldier? 805 01:09:50,558 --> 01:09:53,766 Everywhere. What war first rule? 806 01:09:53,930 --> 01:09:56,558 Never reveal your position. 807 01:09:56,722 --> 01:10:01,766 And if one outsider knew anything? Or Congress? 808 01:10:01,930 --> 01:10:07,182 So the enemy would also know. Such is the world now, Snowden. 809 01:10:07,350 --> 01:10:11,390 Secrecy is safety, and safety is victory. 810 01:10:19,306 --> 01:10:20,890 So. 811 01:10:22,306 --> 01:10:24,638 You need to meet someone. 812 01:10:25,514 --> 01:10:29,638 Hr. Lowell. Jim. How are you? 813 01:10:29,806 --> 01:10:33,014 Dorian. Allan. Welcome to the United States. 814 01:10:33,182 --> 01:10:36,514 How did it go today, Corbin? Right mediocre. 815 01:10:36,682 --> 01:10:38,638 It was something different with Ed here. 816 01:10:38,806 --> 01:10:43,014 The army teaches shown people to shoot. So you Ed Snowden. 817 01:10:43,182 --> 01:10:46,430 A pleasure. The brain behind Epic Shelter. 818 01:10:46,598 --> 01:10:48,682 It's nice work. Thanks. 819 01:10:48,850 --> 01:10:51,306 I have some questions for you. Jim ... 820 01:10:51,474 --> 01:10:55,182 Will you excuse us? Nice to meet you. 821 01:10:55,350 --> 01:10:59,350 It is very useful for our drone program. 822 01:10:59,514 --> 01:11:03,222 Yes, I hear. With the transfer of intelligence from abroad. 823 01:11:03,390 --> 01:11:06,766 Yes, now the smoking of the collection. Directly to the Pentagon. 824 01:11:06,930 --> 01:11:10,766 And Mossad if they are to have it. We can act immediately. 825 01:11:10,930 --> 01:11:14,930 It has made our drones response ten times as short. 826 01:11:15,098 --> 01:11:19,474 And you have worked with surveillance in Japan too, right? 827 01:11:19,638 --> 01:11:24,474 Did you like it? It was a very rewarding job. 828 01:11:24,638 --> 01:11:29,182 You will get even more access to this new job in Hawaii. 829 01:11:29,350 --> 01:11:34,058 I asked Corbin talk to you, but it is me who comes with the offer. 830 01:11:35,430 --> 01:11:40,430 Take your time. It will take some months to get started the program. 831 01:11:40,598 --> 01:11:44,222 Will you excuse me? Shown are now food. 832 01:11:44,390 --> 01:11:48,222 A beer? And to you? No thanks. 833 01:11:54,350 --> 01:11:57,598 Epic Shelter is created to backup. 834 01:11:57,766 --> 01:12:00,766 Lowell has created this job for you, Ed. 835 01:12:00,930 --> 01:12:05,722 You will be the first consultant who works with cyber defense. 836 01:12:06,682 --> 01:12:08,890 It's your ticket to the top. 837 01:12:20,014 --> 01:12:23,474 Do you think America is the best country? 838 01:12:23,638 --> 01:12:25,514 And. 839 01:12:26,558 --> 01:12:30,806 Have you used programs you did not have approval to? 840 01:12:36,558 --> 01:12:37,850 No. 841 01:12:50,166 --> 01:12:53,166 We usually do not need to send our own stuff in, 842 01:12:53,334 --> 01:12:56,502 but my editor will make an exception. 843 01:12:56,666 --> 01:12:58,418 Great, right? 844 01:13:03,166 --> 01:13:05,750 I have to send something in. 845 01:13:08,166 --> 01:13:10,958 Ignoring me on purpose or what? 846 01:13:11,126 --> 01:13:13,334 No sorry. 847 01:13:14,582 --> 01:13:17,294 I just thought. On what? 848 01:13:22,874 --> 01:13:27,750 I would talk to you about it during dinner, but sit down. 849 01:13:29,082 --> 01:13:32,002 He old okay? Yes. 850 01:13:35,210 --> 01:13:38,918 Deputy Director of the NSA 851 01:13:40,458 --> 01:13:42,918 has offered me a new job. 852 01:13:43,082 --> 01:13:46,750 It's a while ago, and now they need to get an answer. 853 01:13:46,918 --> 01:13:49,710 Is it something you want? 854 01:13:50,834 --> 01:13:53,542 I would be good at it. 855 01:13:54,582 --> 01:13:57,210 Can you tell me anything about it? 856 01:13:57,374 --> 01:14:01,958 You know, I can not. Yes. The mission first. 857 01:14:03,794 --> 01:14:06,874 Are there any social benefits in it? Gala Companies in the White House? 858 01:14:07,042 --> 01:14:11,082 Worked in Hawaii. 859 01:14:18,918 --> 01:14:22,834 We have worked hard to get where we are now. 860 01:14:23,002 --> 01:14:26,418 And you're willing to tear it all up by the roots. 861 01:14:26,582 --> 01:14:29,710 We finally dream house and a job, I can suffer. 862 01:14:29,874 --> 01:14:32,794 And real friends, and we live close to our families. 863 01:14:32,958 --> 01:14:37,166 And if you want to be, so we will stay here. Just like that. 864 01:14:37,334 --> 01:14:40,294 Do not say it just because I want to hear it. 865 01:14:40,458 --> 01:14:42,626 I dont do that. 866 01:14:45,502 --> 01:14:49,374 I let go of you once. I can not do again. 867 01:14:55,542 --> 01:14:59,166 Shit, sorry. The paste. Moment. 868 01:15:10,250 --> 01:15:14,166 I actually think I'm close to having cooked it right this time. 869 01:15:14,334 --> 01:15:17,210 I find some candles. 870 01:15:54,794 --> 01:15:57,166 Åh gud! And! And! 871 01:16:14,794 --> 01:16:19,210 I know well Tegretol. It dulls one. I've seen it with my mother. 872 01:16:19,374 --> 01:16:22,294 She has taken all sorts of medicine throughout his life. 873 01:16:22,458 --> 01:16:25,418 It appears in 70% of cases. 874 01:16:27,542 --> 01:16:32,210 Ed, epilepsy is a serious disease. If you have a seizure 875 01:16:32,374 --> 01:16:36,250 while running either alone or with someone else 876 01:16:36,418 --> 01:16:39,582 or you are in a place where you could fall ... 877 01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:44,710 It should not take lightly. It is important that you take the medicine. 878 01:16:47,794 --> 01:16:49,458 Okay? 879 01:16:50,834 --> 01:16:52,418 And. 880 01:16:57,794 --> 01:16:59,294 So. 881 01:17:02,780 --> 01:17:07,196 I've thought about it, the doctor said. In less stress. 882 01:17:09,904 --> 01:17:12,652 A warmer climate could help. 883 01:17:16,612 --> 01:17:20,696 If we decide that Hawaii is better for you 884 01:17:21,944 --> 01:17:24,320 I take with. 885 01:17:38,696 --> 01:17:39,904 HONG KONG WEDNESDAY, June 5, 2013 886 01:17:40,072 --> 01:17:42,904 Janine, how did the conversation with the White House? 887 01:17:43,072 --> 01:17:46,736 I said that it was a genuine FISA court order we had. 888 01:17:47,126 --> 01:17:52,002 They would see it, we refused. Now I pray that it is genuine. 889 01:17:53,502 --> 01:17:59,918 Doubt you? No one has seen one before. 890 01:18:00,082 --> 01:18:02,918 Our source risked their lives for it. It's true. 891 01:18:03,082 --> 01:18:08,334 The White House said anything specific about national security, 892 01:18:08,502 --> 01:18:11,294 that could prevent you from sending it into print? 893 01:18:11,458 --> 01:18:16,458 No. I asked them about it several times. They had no answer. 894 01:18:16,626 --> 01:18:19,874 So why do not you publish it and know you are on safe ground. 895 01:18:20,042 --> 01:18:23,750 Glenn, I want to talk to Alan, before we go any further. 896 01:18:23,918 --> 01:18:26,418 When he lands? About six hours. 897 01:18:26,582 --> 01:18:30,874 No. We are living target boards here. The time is 13 in New York. 898 01:18:31,042 --> 01:18:34,750 We have four hours otherwise we miss the evening news on the East Coast. 899 01:18:34,918 --> 01:18:38,458 We can put it up later tonight. 900 01:18:38,626 --> 01:18:41,750 Sorry, but Alan is our chief editor ... 901 01:18:41,918 --> 01:18:44,918 Holy crap! Now the government, we got these documents. 902 01:18:45,082 --> 01:18:49,166 CIA may come barging in anytime and you will have more time. 903 01:18:49,334 --> 01:18:52,250 Behave as a journalist. 904 01:18:52,418 --> 01:18:55,334 I stood firm against the White House. 905 01:18:55,502 --> 01:18:58,874 I've put my career on the line. How dare you doubt me. 906 01:18:59,042 --> 01:19:01,750 Let's just drop a little ... I doubt you. 907 01:19:01,918 --> 01:19:04,166 There here is inappropriate. 908 01:19:04,334 --> 01:19:07,374 We publish it yourself. You're out of here. 909 01:19:17,502 --> 01:19:21,002 Just quiet, Glenn. We have it all ready at 16. 910 01:19:21,166 --> 01:19:24,458 I will review it again. Why? 911 01:19:24,626 --> 01:19:27,294 Because it needs to be further edited. 912 01:19:27,458 --> 01:19:30,334 All the intelligence jargon hurts the brain. 913 01:19:30,502 --> 01:19:35,666 PRISM the article is incomprehensible. It is number two. 914 01:19:35,834 --> 01:19:40,250 The first article is Verizon. It should be ready by the time the 17th 915 01:19:41,374 --> 01:19:44,918 No numbers, otherwise we decamped. 916 01:20:01,874 --> 01:20:06,418 "THE TUNNEL", OPERATIVT NSA–CENTER OAHU, HAWAII – 2012 917 01:20:07,834 --> 01:20:11,626 My new job was counter-espionage against the Chinese 918 01:20:11,794 --> 01:20:15,666 – på NSA's kryptologi–center på Oahu. 919 01:20:18,250 --> 01:20:20,666 Please put your bag down. 920 01:20:21,626 --> 01:20:25,042 No personal laptops, no usb keys, no phones? 921 01:20:25,210 --> 01:20:28,582 No electronic devices? No. 922 01:20:41,294 --> 01:20:42,710 So. 923 01:20:46,418 --> 01:20:49,958 Snow White, is that you? 924 01:20:51,502 --> 01:20:54,418 Gabriel? What the hell are you doing here? 925 01:20:54,582 --> 01:20:56,582 Fantastic. 926 01:20:57,418 --> 01:21:02,666 Do you work here? Yes. Three years, two months and five days. 927 01:21:03,834 --> 01:21:06,126 But who keeps track of such things? 928 01:21:06,294 --> 01:21:09,042 To think that an underground base WWII 929 01:21:09,210 --> 01:21:12,126 would be to fråderparadis thousand geeks. 930 01:21:12,294 --> 01:21:15,794 Is the pizza good here? Yes. However, the elevator is slow. 931 01:21:16,794 --> 01:21:19,374 It is something of a place, right? 932 01:21:20,502 --> 01:21:26,126 What are you working on? Are you NTOC or ROC? 933 01:21:28,918 --> 01:21:31,874 Between the two of us? NTOC. 934 01:21:32,042 --> 01:21:35,250 Cool. You must hack the hackers. You are on your way to the top. 935 01:21:45,458 --> 01:21:47,502 A fresh mind to you, Trevor. 936 01:21:47,666 --> 01:21:50,210 Trevor James, Interactive Operations department. 937 01:21:50,374 --> 01:21:52,458 Ed Snowden. I have been informed. 938 01:21:52,626 --> 01:21:57,210 NTOC sitting there. Defense. That's where you need to work. 939 01:21:57,374 --> 01:22:00,210 Here we ROC, our offensive department. 940 01:22:00,374 --> 01:22:04,958 I cover both departments. We do things properly here. 941 01:22:05,126 --> 01:22:09,002 You must work with Haynes. Patrick Haynes. 942 01:22:09,166 --> 01:22:12,334 Beware of him. He is the brightest here in the building. 943 01:22:12,502 --> 01:22:15,250 Frankly ... How many languages is it that you can? 944 01:22:15,418 --> 01:22:19,374 Seven of the Code, six orally, two sign language. 945 01:22:19,542 --> 01:22:22,542 I can be a little American Sign Language. 946 01:22:22,710 --> 01:22:24,582 How cool. 947 01:22:24,750 --> 01:22:29,042 Fat. Once a language I can not. See you later. 948 01:22:34,166 --> 01:22:36,042 Vent. 949 01:22:37,334 --> 01:22:39,626 Whenever now. 950 01:22:43,250 --> 01:22:48,874 Then the light went in Waziristan, gentlemen. What we contribute to that? 951 01:22:49,042 --> 01:22:52,334 The underside of the Reaper drone has a huge antenna. 952 01:22:52,502 --> 01:22:55,582 The sniff hardware id at anything that sends a signal. 953 01:22:55,750 --> 01:23:00,750 We make geo tracker. My friend Tasha Air Force throws with Hellfire. 954 01:23:00,918 --> 01:23:04,210 Hey, Trev. Did you like the show? Of course. 955 01:23:04,374 --> 01:23:07,834 We track them in to bury them. Who was it, we tracked? 956 01:23:08,002 --> 01:23:12,834 Not who, what. We track enemy mobiles. Sometimes a SIM card. 957 01:23:13,002 --> 01:23:18,210 Okay. How do we know that the enemy is in possession of the phone? 958 01:23:18,374 --> 01:23:22,918 We dont know. Jo. JSOC and the CIA have people in the field. 959 01:23:24,210 --> 01:23:26,250 What is the application? 960 01:23:26,418 --> 01:23:30,710 Epic Shelter. It was originally a backup program. 961 01:23:32,166 --> 01:23:36,166 In the event of disasters. Yes. How did you know? 962 01:23:37,250 --> 01:23:43,750 I developed it. I have thought of another way to use it on. 963 01:23:45,042 --> 01:23:46,710 So what? 964 01:23:46,874 --> 01:23:50,750 I chatted with Jim Lowell. The Deputy Director? 965 01:23:50,918 --> 01:23:57,294 Yes. There are so many applications that it is difficult to keep track of them. 966 01:23:57,458 --> 01:24:00,374 Why not create a central database? 967 01:24:00,542 --> 01:24:04,126 As an index? Yes. As updated immediately. 968 01:24:04,294 --> 01:24:07,666 Epic Shelter already collect intelligence. 969 01:24:07,834 --> 01:24:11,126 We just need to use a web portal to catalog them. 970 01:24:11,294 --> 01:24:14,542 Make them searchable. Let me think about it. 971 01:24:14,710 --> 01:24:18,918 It must be approved by Fort Meade. Do you have a name for it? 972 01:24:19,082 --> 01:24:22,750 If it is used, so Heartbeat. 973 01:24:24,374 --> 01:24:25,918 Heartbeat. 974 01:24:26,082 --> 01:24:30,542 ... fem, fire, tre, to, en. 975 01:24:31,126 --> 01:24:33,250 Contact with the target. 976 01:24:47,250 --> 01:24:50,502 Are you all right down there? Yes. 977 01:24:51,794 --> 01:24:55,294 That's why I say we need to hike more. 978 01:24:55,458 --> 01:24:57,710 You're right. Look at me. 979 01:25:00,042 --> 01:25:02,458 Come on. It's several years ago. 980 01:25:02,626 --> 01:25:06,042 In relation to the social media are not you more. 981 01:25:06,210 --> 01:25:11,002 Just one picture. Smile. Show me your teeth. 982 01:25:12,750 --> 01:25:15,874 My perpetually volatile E. Finally, I caught you. 983 01:25:16,042 --> 01:25:18,958 So I can be used as a girlfriend? Yes. 984 01:25:21,082 --> 01:25:24,126 It's a shame. You were such a cute, small model. 985 01:25:24,294 --> 01:25:27,210 Little? I was little? Wait! 986 01:25:29,750 --> 01:25:31,418 Stop. 987 01:25:32,918 --> 01:25:36,626 Oh God. I think you've got some sun. 988 01:25:36,794 --> 01:25:41,542 I mean it. It looks good. It is impossible. 989 01:25:41,710 --> 01:25:46,710 I wanted to ask you something. Have you changed your pharmacy? 990 01:25:47,834 --> 01:25:50,374 I would pick up your medication. 991 01:25:50,542 --> 01:25:55,374 But I could not. Why did you do it? 992 01:25:57,502 --> 01:26:01,666 I was there and thought it would be helpful to me. 993 01:26:13,918 --> 01:26:16,542 I have stopped taking Tegretol. 994 01:26:18,002 --> 01:26:21,874 What? When? A couple of months ago. 995 01:26:22,042 --> 01:26:26,418 And you say that only now? I would like to tell you that. 996 01:26:26,582 --> 01:26:29,082 I can not take it. It makes me dizzy. 997 01:26:29,250 --> 01:26:33,082 I have to be sharp at work. I have to be on all the time. 998 01:26:33,250 --> 01:26:36,710 Why is your work more important than your life? 999 01:26:38,294 --> 01:26:41,374 I do not understand it. Our Government. 1000 01:26:43,458 --> 01:26:45,210 What? 1001 01:26:45,374 --> 01:26:51,166 Our government crash bleeds billions of dollars to Chinese hackers. 1002 01:26:51,334 --> 01:26:54,794 I've been hired to shut down for them. 1003 01:26:55,834 --> 01:26:59,874 There are many people who are dependent on me. 1004 01:27:00,666 --> 01:27:03,210 More of you than any other? 1005 01:27:04,458 --> 01:27:05,750 And. 1006 01:27:08,458 --> 01:27:12,210 No, it ... It's bullshit. 1007 01:27:15,458 --> 01:27:19,834 We did not come to Hawaii, so you could be better, right? 1008 01:27:20,750 --> 01:27:24,126 This job should not be less stressful. 1009 01:27:24,294 --> 01:27:28,374 I feel I was born for this, and if I do not ... 1010 01:27:28,542 --> 01:27:32,250 I do not know anyone else who can do it. 1011 01:27:33,294 --> 01:27:38,002 It's as if I'm on a course I can not put on. 1012 01:27:41,374 --> 01:27:43,750 You can always turn back. 1013 01:27:47,750 --> 01:27:51,626 Can you answer yes or no to the question? 1014 01:27:51,794 --> 01:27:56,374 Collector NSA any kind of data into 1015 01:27:56,542 --> 01:28:01,126 millions or hundreds of millions of Americans? 1016 01:28:01,294 --> 01:28:04,542 No. It makes NSA not? 1017 01:28:05,666 --> 01:28:07,750 Not deliberately. 1018 01:28:07,918 --> 01:28:12,334 There are cases where you might unwittingly collects data, 1019 01:28:12,502 --> 01:28:15,418 but not deliberately. 1020 01:28:15,582 --> 01:28:19,294 Thanks. I come with several questions in writing. 1021 01:28:20,082 --> 01:28:25,666 Okay, I want to show you is a slide that I encountered, 1022 01:28:25,834 --> 01:28:28,626 while I built index program. 1023 01:28:28,794 --> 01:28:33,210 And what is it? Data collected in March. 1024 01:28:33,374 --> 01:28:37,374 Worldwide. E mails and Skype calls. France. 70 million. 1025 01:28:37,542 --> 01:28:39,750 Germany. 500 million. 1026 01:28:39,918 --> 01:28:42,458 Brazil. Two billion. 1027 01:28:42,626 --> 01:28:45,042 Within US borders. 1028 01:28:45,210 --> 01:28:50,250 3100000000 e mails and calls. And that does not include phone data. 1029 01:28:50,418 --> 01:28:52,834 How much we collected in Russia? 1030 01:28:53,002 --> 01:28:56,502 In Russia it was 1.5 billion. 1031 01:28:56,666 --> 01:29:01,082 So we collect twice as much in America as in Russia? 1032 01:29:01,250 --> 01:29:03,334 It is completely off track. 1033 01:29:04,666 --> 01:29:07,458 Did you show it to others? No, only you. 1034 01:29:07,626 --> 01:29:12,002 Be careful with it. It may seem as if you break anything. 1035 01:29:12,166 --> 01:29:16,082 You're right. But I would like to know if I'm the only one 1036 01:29:16,250 --> 01:29:18,502 who think it is crazy. 1037 01:29:18,666 --> 01:29:21,666 What the hell is going on here? What are you doing here? 1038 01:29:21,834 --> 01:29:25,874 Nothing. I showed them something I needed some input. 1039 01:29:26,042 --> 01:29:29,126 Why intensity card? It's my fault, Trev. 1040 01:29:29,294 --> 01:29:32,874 I bet with Ed about how we collect most from. 1041 01:29:33,042 --> 01:29:36,294 He said Iran and I said Pakistan. 1042 01:29:36,458 --> 01:29:39,250 Who won? Oath. 1043 01:29:42,334 --> 01:29:44,626 I will pass. See you. 1044 01:29:44,794 --> 01:29:47,582 Next time I get you. Okay. 1045 01:29:47,750 --> 01:29:51,958 No more bets. And nobody should be in here without permission. 1046 01:29:52,126 --> 01:29:55,250 Especially not with Heartbeat. It will not happen again. 1047 01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:11,056 Congratulations! 1048 01:30:17,516 --> 01:30:21,388 ... In Vegas and looked at Afghanistan, so we worked late. 1049 01:30:21,556 --> 01:30:24,888 Something blurred wading into the killing zone. 1050 01:30:25,056 --> 01:30:29,516 We all knew it was a child. Poof, he's gone. 1051 01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:34,096 We asked for an investigation, and there was a report back on 1052 01:30:34,264 --> 01:30:36,972 that it was a dog. OK fine. 1053 01:30:37,140 --> 01:30:41,264 It was a long shift. Day and night. 1054 01:30:41,432 --> 01:30:44,596 The same village two three days later. 1055 01:30:44,764 --> 01:30:48,432 They hold the funeral. We knew it was a boy they buried. 1056 01:30:48,596 --> 01:30:53,264 Mother and father crying. And then comes the order. Nak them. 1057 01:30:54,224 --> 01:30:56,932 Fluff. 1058 01:30:57,096 --> 01:31:00,180 And then they are gone in a cloud of dust. 1059 01:31:04,224 --> 01:31:07,304 All of them. The whole family. 1060 01:31:07,472 --> 01:31:11,264 But insanity is that you come home from work 1061 01:31:11,432 --> 01:31:15,556 kiss the wife and kids, and then back to work the next day. 1062 01:31:15,724 --> 01:31:20,804 Soon it all just routine. 1063 01:31:23,596 --> 01:31:27,016 Fuck it. You make it sound as if it is criminal. 1064 01:31:27,180 --> 01:31:31,016 It's war, and it is work. Well, I do not know, man. 1065 01:31:31,180 --> 01:31:35,388 Can work not be criminal? Not if you work for the state. 1066 01:31:35,556 --> 01:31:38,516 Have you heard about Nürnbergprocessen, Trev? 1067 01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,680 It is not so long ago. Yes. 1068 01:31:41,848 --> 01:31:44,224 We hung Nazi leaders, right? 1069 01:31:44,388 --> 01:31:48,848 Yes. The leaders, it was the first trial, but the next one 1070 01:31:49,016 --> 01:31:54,472 there were the judges, lawyers, police officers, guards. 1071 01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:59,680 Ordinary people going about their work. Obeyed orders. 1072 01:31:59,848 --> 01:32:05,848 Of that, Nuremberg principles, which the UN did international law 1073 01:32:06,016 --> 01:32:11,304 in the event that ordinary job becomes delinquent again. 1074 01:32:14,180 --> 01:32:16,472 I am just saying. 1075 01:32:42,432 --> 01:32:44,724 ... Never touches me! 1076 01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:03,848 Oh God! Are you okay? 1077 01:33:04,848 --> 01:33:08,348 Are you okay, man? Away. You must not touch him. 1078 01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:42,972 Hey, Ed, how are you? How's your health? 1079 01:33:43,140 --> 01:33:45,848 Hello, Corbin. The ... 1080 01:33:47,848 --> 01:33:50,432 It's going well. Thanks for asking. 1081 01:33:50,596 --> 01:33:54,140 It must be exhausting to live with the disease. 1082 01:33:54,304 --> 01:33:56,972 You can not see it on your numbers. 1083 01:33:57,140 --> 01:34:00,848 200 Chinese IPs shut down in the first four months. 1084 01:34:02,972 --> 01:34:05,596 It is internal numbers. 1085 01:34:05,764 --> 01:34:09,556 Din kollega Trevor var også i CIA. 1086 01:34:09,724 --> 01:34:13,724 He has kept me informed of your progress. 1087 01:34:14,972 --> 01:34:19,140 It is excellent work. Also Heartbeat. 1088 01:34:19,304 --> 01:34:24,180 Thanks. That means a lot. Lowell am very satisfied. 1089 01:34:24,348 --> 01:34:28,224 I bring. It is good to hear. 1090 01:34:29,056 --> 01:34:30,888 They have ... 1091 01:34:34,016 --> 01:34:37,264 He does not know your intensity short conversations 1092 01:34:37,432 --> 01:34:41,264 or any of the other ideas you have aired to your colleagues. 1093 01:34:41,432 --> 01:34:44,764 And he will not. Yes ... 1094 01:34:45,972 --> 01:34:51,764 Heartbeat is a difficult project. To collect from several organizations. 1095 01:34:51,932 --> 01:34:54,596 Knowing where to draw the data. 1096 01:34:54,764 --> 01:34:58,972 It has been a help to discuss it with some colleagues. 1097 01:34:59,140 --> 01:35:04,972 I believe in you. Therefore, there was nothing you after the appeal in Geneva. 1098 01:35:06,224 --> 01:35:09,096 And I'm grateful for. 1099 01:35:09,264 --> 01:35:15,432 Or after you "omitted the truth" in your last lie detector test. 1100 01:35:17,432 --> 01:35:20,432 What was it you did not tell? 1101 01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:31,724 Do you remember the day you told us about FISA right? 1102 01:35:33,016 --> 01:35:36,640 You said they approved Bush's wiretaps. 1103 01:35:38,180 --> 01:35:42,224 Sometimes we do not tell the whole truth. 1104 01:35:43,388 --> 01:35:47,432 It does not mean that we must lie. Frankly, Corbin. 1105 01:35:47,596 --> 01:35:51,264 The Director of the NSA lied to Congress. 1106 01:35:54,140 --> 01:35:56,016 Pardon. 1107 01:36:00,348 --> 01:36:02,140 Look at me. 1108 01:36:07,556 --> 01:36:11,388 Accessed the a program without permission 1109 01:36:11,556 --> 01:36:14,224 I did not know? 1110 01:36:20,140 --> 01:36:23,680 Yes. It was ... 1111 01:36:25,516 --> 01:36:30,804 It was in Geneva, it was Lindsay, and I was jealous. Pardon. 1112 01:36:30,972 --> 01:36:33,516 I never did it again. 1113 01:36:46,180 --> 01:36:47,556 Listen up. 1114 01:36:51,224 --> 01:36:54,932 I know I've been struggling since Geneva. 1115 01:36:55,096 --> 01:36:59,848 It's hard to keep alive a relationship. It succeeds only too few. 1116 01:37:02,140 --> 01:37:08,972 If it calms you, then she is not in bed with him the photographer 1117 01:37:10,304 --> 01:37:13,016 if that's what you think. 1118 01:37:16,180 --> 01:37:21,848 I'm going to a conference in Sydney and stops in Hawaii on the way home. 1119 01:37:23,764 --> 01:37:26,016 Okay? 1120 01:37:26,724 --> 01:37:29,264 Okay. Thanks. 1121 01:37:31,848 --> 01:37:34,056 See you soon. 1122 01:37:49,264 --> 01:37:51,140 Hi Dad. 1123 01:37:52,304 --> 01:37:55,596 Did you get the e mail I sent you pictures? 1124 01:37:59,472 --> 01:38:02,472 I was hoping you could delete them. 1125 01:38:11,140 --> 01:38:13,348 What are you doing? 1126 01:38:34,472 --> 01:38:36,432 Sit down. 1127 01:38:42,764 --> 01:38:47,056 Your e mail is monitored. And? 1128 01:38:48,304 --> 01:38:52,016 It is not passive data collection. It's targeted surveillance. 1129 01:38:52,180 --> 01:38:55,472 Your e mails, calls, text messages, social media. Everything. 1130 01:38:55,640 --> 01:39:00,180 It is possible that there are spy microphones in the housing. 1131 01:39:00,348 --> 01:39:03,388 I'm not sure. Who is behind it? 1132 01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:07,348 A leading figure in the CIA. 1133 01:39:08,472 --> 01:39:12,224 Are you out of something bad? Is it with the Chinese? 1134 01:39:12,388 --> 01:39:16,016 There are things I wish I could tell you 1135 01:39:16,180 --> 01:39:20,804 but I can not because it can end very badly for you. 1136 01:39:20,972 --> 01:39:24,016 You are protected by the fact that you know nothing. 1137 01:39:30,596 --> 01:39:34,140 Pardon. This should not hit you. 1138 01:39:35,804 --> 01:39:40,180 But I know you would say I did the right thing. 1139 01:39:44,932 --> 01:39:51,516 So listen to me. When we go back into the house, everything should work normally. 1140 01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:53,848 We must act as if nothing happened. 1141 01:39:54,016 --> 01:39:58,056 But if you see something, say it to me. 1142 01:39:58,224 --> 01:40:02,224 You must use encrypted e mail from now on. I'll do. 1143 01:40:02,388 --> 01:40:06,472 I can not do it here. Yes, you can. It at me. 1144 01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:12,264 Do I have any choice? I ask you to trust me. 1145 01:40:20,348 --> 01:40:24,724 Linds, I think it's best if you go to Maryland little. 1146 01:40:24,888 --> 01:40:28,680 Tell your parents that I am on a business trip. 1147 01:40:28,848 --> 01:40:33,140 And you have homesickness. If you take away? 1148 01:40:33,304 --> 01:40:36,016 Yes, but only for a little while. 1149 01:40:45,432 --> 01:40:49,724 I can not go. Just until I get back? 1150 01:40:51,224 --> 01:40:55,680 You just said that everything should look normal. 1151 01:40:55,848 --> 01:40:59,804 If both of us traveling, it seems suspicious. 1152 01:41:09,932 --> 01:41:12,724 I do it for you. 1153 01:41:16,388 --> 01:41:18,932 But it is the last time. 1154 01:41:41,596 --> 01:41:45,680 We meet in the shopping center opposite the Hotel Mira in two weeks. 1155 01:41:45,848 --> 01:41:49,640 I have a professor cube in hand. More info follows. 1156 01:41:54,932 --> 01:41:57,016 Have you heard it with Trevor? 1157 01:41:57,180 --> 01:42:00,432 The mission is to take over the Internet in Syria? 1158 01:42:00,596 --> 01:42:04,888 Trevor and his team have been the central router to crash. 1159 01:42:05,056 --> 01:42:08,224 The whole country has gone in black. Cross. 1160 01:42:08,388 --> 01:42:11,304 Figure it out! Poor things. 1161 01:42:13,264 --> 01:42:16,096 I'll start. I'll also. 1162 01:42:17,264 --> 01:42:20,724 How's Heartbeat? 1163 01:42:21,932 --> 01:42:25,596 We are close. Very close to. 1164 01:42:28,516 --> 01:42:31,096 Do not you also involved in that. 1165 01:42:31,264 --> 01:42:36,596 Trevor got me to review their exploit code. It is a huge mess. 1166 01:42:38,848 --> 01:42:42,140 Why I went with it? Good luck. 1167 01:45:08,180 --> 01:45:11,764 There we were hung out to dry. Yes. 1168 01:45:12,932 --> 01:45:15,016 Are there problems with the fleet? 1169 01:45:15,180 --> 01:45:19,388 One of the idiots stole something Israeli Code and threw it in our consignment. 1170 01:45:19,556 --> 01:45:23,388 Script kiddies. I should have listened to you. 1171 01:45:23,556 --> 01:45:25,304 Is it that? Yes. 1172 01:45:25,472 --> 01:45:28,516 The Israelis must fucking take the fall for this. 1173 01:45:32,472 --> 01:45:35,724 Is it okay now? I do not take the garbage. 1174 01:45:44,388 --> 01:45:45,972 Patrick. 1175 01:45:51,056 --> 01:45:53,640 I see you might not. 1176 01:45:55,972 --> 01:45:59,096 Will you leave me here 1177 01:45:59,264 --> 01:46:01,848 along with Captain America? 1178 01:46:02,016 --> 01:46:03,680 Thank you very much. 1179 01:46:05,348 --> 01:46:09,848 NSA may come after you. 1180 01:46:11,264 --> 01:46:14,016 I have no idea what you're talking about. 1181 01:46:48,388 --> 01:46:52,640 Already on the way home? Yes. I feel a little bad. 1182 01:46:53,804 --> 01:46:56,388 Maybe I do not tomorrow. 1183 01:46:56,556 --> 01:46:59,680 Trevor a little busy right now. Would you tell him that? 1184 01:46:59,848 --> 01:47:02,056 Yes. Of course. 1185 01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:09,516 If you feel so bad, maybe you should go to your doctor at home. 1186 01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:13,264 I think folks would understand. 1187 01:47:15,596 --> 01:47:17,640 Sounds wise. 1188 01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:28,016 Take care of yourself. You too. 1189 01:47:51,474 --> 01:47:54,018 Have you tried one of these? 1190 01:47:54,182 --> 01:47:57,142 Yes, when I was a child. 1191 01:47:57,310 --> 01:48:00,726 You should try it. It is very. 1192 01:48:19,894 --> 01:48:22,974 I can not figure it out. 1193 01:48:27,518 --> 01:48:29,182 I do not fucking ... 1194 01:48:29,350 --> 01:48:33,974 You have to start with the white cross, and then take the corners. 1195 01:48:34,142 --> 01:48:37,434 I love how some here. 1196 01:48:37,602 --> 01:48:40,850 Have a nice weekend. You too, buddy. 1197 01:49:36,088 --> 01:49:38,960 It is now up. 1198 01:49:39,128 --> 01:49:41,836 WEDNESDAY, June 5, 2013 1199 01:49:42,420 --> 01:49:46,044 There is a link to the FISA the court order. 1200 01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:55,836 Well done, Janine. I told you she could not be pushed. 1201 01:49:56,004 --> 01:49:59,712 It feels fucking great to be wrong. 1202 01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:06,172 NSA collecting phone data on millions of Americans. 1203 01:50:06,336 --> 01:50:10,252 It is reported that the Obama administration is through a secret right 1204 01:50:10,420 --> 01:50:13,380 collects data on millions of Verizon customers. 1205 01:50:13,544 --> 01:50:16,460 It's The Guardian, which is behind the revelation. 1206 01:50:16,628 --> 01:50:22,212 The court order shows that all the information collected from the NSA. 1207 01:50:22,380 --> 01:50:24,796 Is it an established enough media, Glenn? 1208 01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:29,504 Now they can not stop us, and we have four days of revelations to. 1209 01:50:29,672 --> 01:50:32,296 It is fantastic. 1210 01:50:33,460 --> 01:50:37,672 Another explosive article, this time in the Washington Post. 1211 01:50:37,836 --> 01:50:43,088 It reveals yet another broad, secret surveillance program. 1212 01:50:43,252 --> 01:50:47,296 Washington Post og The Guardian skriver, – 1213 01:50:47,460 --> 01:50:53,588 the NSA and the FBI collects data directly from nine internet firms, 1214 01:50:53,752 --> 01:50:57,336 – inklusive Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, AOL, – 1215 01:50:57,504 --> 01:51:00,088 – Skype, YouTube og Apple. 1216 01:51:00,252 --> 01:51:04,672 Post say they download audio, video, photos, e mails, documents 1217 01:51:04,836 --> 01:51:10,628 and logs that can be used to track people. 1218 01:51:10,796 --> 01:51:13,920 FRIDAY, June 7, 2013 1219 01:51:14,088 --> 01:51:20,836 Completely abstract one might complain that it might be rampant. 1220 01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:26,836 But looking at the details, so I think we have found a good balance. 1221 01:51:27,004 --> 01:51:31,712 President Obama defends the monitoring programs 1222 01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:35,336 and insists that there was security 1223 01:51:35,504 --> 01:51:39,252 that would protect citizens from abuse. 1224 01:51:39,420 --> 01:51:44,252 He realized that what happened inside this secret organization 1225 01:51:44,420 --> 01:51:50,628 was a threat to privacy, the free internet and basic rights. 1226 01:51:50,796 --> 01:51:55,672 Not only in America but throughout the world. He believed it was his duty 1227 01:51:55,836 --> 01:51:58,920 as a human being to reveal it. 1228 01:52:08,752 --> 01:52:13,336 My name is Ed Snowden. I am 29 years. I work for Booz Allen Hamilton. 1229 01:52:13,504 --> 01:52:16,880 Jeg er infrastrukturanalytiker for NSA i Hawaii. 1230 01:52:29,796 --> 01:52:33,960 One can not reveal the most powerful intelligence services 1231 01:52:34,128 --> 01:52:38,920 without putting anything at stake. They are powerful opponents. 1232 01:52:39,088 --> 01:52:45,836 No one can oppose them. Will they have ram at you, they get it. 1233 01:52:46,004 --> 01:52:48,044 The kid did it. 1234 01:52:48,212 --> 01:52:54,044 ... The strength properties of this oppression architecture. 1235 01:52:54,212 --> 01:52:58,672 One realizes that perhaps is willing to take any risk, 1236 01:52:58,836 --> 01:53:04,544 as long as the public can choose how this should be done. 1237 01:53:04,712 --> 01:53:08,172 For even if nothing is done, you will be monitored. 1238 01:53:10,004 --> 01:53:13,336 I had access to the entire intelligence community. 1239 01:53:13,504 --> 01:53:16,544 If I wanted to harm the United States, 1240 01:53:16,712 --> 01:53:20,712 I could have shut down the system in a day. 1241 01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:27,504 It was not what I wanted, and anyone who says it 1242 01:53:27,672 --> 01:53:29,628 should think about. 1243 01:53:29,796 --> 01:53:32,088 If they were in my place 1244 01:53:32,252 --> 01:53:35,836 and lived in paradise Hawaii and served torrential well 1245 01:53:36,004 --> 01:53:40,920 what would cause them to leave everything? 1246 01:53:41,088 --> 01:53:44,796 What I fear most 1247 01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:49,252 compared to what will happen with the US 1248 01:53:49,420 --> 01:53:54,420 is that nothing changes and that it will just get worse. 1249 01:53:54,588 --> 01:53:58,252 And then, at some point 1250 01:53:58,420 --> 01:54:01,880 will a new leader will be chosen, 1251 01:54:02,044 --> 01:54:06,128 which takes the final step 1252 01:54:06,296 --> 01:54:13,672 and then people will not be able to do something about it at the time. 1253 01:54:13,836 --> 01:54:18,336 So we have introduced tyranny by the back door. 1254 01:54:18,504 --> 01:54:22,588 How are you? I'll be all me. 1255 01:54:22,752 --> 01:54:25,752 I must take care of yourself now. 1256 01:54:27,252 --> 01:54:33,960 If you think your home will be searched or I being tapped, 1257 01:54:34,128 --> 01:54:39,544 then you must format your hard drives immediately. 1258 01:54:39,712 --> 01:54:42,504 I have the encrypted backups. 1259 01:54:42,672 --> 01:54:44,920 Now I have ... 1260 01:54:47,544 --> 01:54:51,960 Now, I myself no longer access the files. Only I have them. 1261 01:54:56,212 --> 01:55:00,544 Concentrate you about the news story. It's the only thing that is important. 1262 01:55:00,712 --> 01:55:04,004 If you'll excuse me, so ... 1263 01:55:05,128 --> 01:55:08,296 We'd better get some sleep all together. 1264 01:55:08,460 --> 01:55:12,588 I'd better get some sleep in a soft bed, while I have the chance. 1265 01:55:14,252 --> 01:55:16,380 Sleep well. 1266 01:55:18,460 --> 01:55:21,336 I'll see you tomorrow. Good night. 1267 01:55:50,088 --> 01:55:54,252 Can you at least tell me where you're going? 1268 01:56:17,172 --> 01:56:20,044 I know that I ... 1269 01:56:29,296 --> 01:56:32,460 MONDAY, June 10, 2013 1270 01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:40,088 Ewen, I'm on the first saddle. 1271 01:56:40,252 --> 01:56:42,420 I can not see Tibbo. 1272 01:56:44,128 --> 01:56:46,712 No, wait, now I spotted him. 1273 01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:51,380 Shit. There are press people everywhere in the hotel. 1274 01:56:51,544 --> 01:56:55,088 I do not know. I stop them with a press conference. 1275 01:56:55,252 --> 01:57:01,252 Glenn. Thanks. We understand you are one of Hong Kong's best lawyers. 1276 01:57:01,420 --> 01:57:06,752 First he has to the UN, and so ... I'd rather not reveal. 1277 01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:10,672 Shit, they've seen me. I'd better get going. 1278 01:57:12,420 --> 01:57:16,296 I'll answer your questions in good order. 1279 01:57:16,460 --> 01:57:19,504 Did you get it? Yes. 1280 01:57:19,672 --> 01:57:22,712 You must meet with Tibbo in five minutes. 1281 01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:26,752 Up on the walkway to the main shopping center. 1282 01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:33,628 I have met many surprising people, but you ... 1283 01:57:35,460 --> 01:57:38,544 Okay, kid, you have to go. 1284 01:57:38,712 --> 01:57:41,296 We will not let you. 1285 01:57:41,460 --> 01:57:45,212 Without a camera looks like you are not a journalist. 1286 01:57:45,380 --> 01:57:47,836 Are you sure? 1287 01:57:48,004 --> 01:57:51,296 Okay. That is a good idea. 1288 01:57:52,796 --> 01:57:55,044 So. 1289 01:57:56,044 --> 01:57:58,504 Remember your luck dice. 1290 01:57:58,672 --> 01:58:02,628 I think you have to have it. 1291 01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:07,960 Thanks. For it all. Thanks. 1292 01:58:31,588 --> 01:58:33,880 I have a cart down the street. 1293 01:58:38,088 --> 01:58:41,672 NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden has now been charged 1294 01:58:41,836 --> 01:58:46,420 for espionage, theft and appropriation of state property. 1295 01:58:46,588 --> 01:58:51,004 The US authorities have asked Hong Kong to detain him. 1296 01:58:51,172 --> 01:58:55,088 Snowden has been in Hong Kong started in May. 1297 01:58:58,172 --> 01:59:02,504 Snowden has checked out of the luxury hotel in Hong Kong. 1298 01:59:04,380 --> 01:59:06,088 Look away. 1299 01:59:06,252 --> 01:59:10,088 The Ministry of Justice had to go through Interpol, so Snowden, 1300 01:59:10,252 --> 01:59:15,088 if he tried to cross a border would be arrested. 1301 01:59:15,252 --> 01:59:19,796 Americans come closer. They know very well where he is. 1302 01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:25,836 They just need permission from the government in Hong Kong to take him. 1303 01:59:27,544 --> 01:59:31,752 The big question is: Where is he now? 1304 01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:38,296 Tak. Det her er Ed. Ed, Mayana. Velkommen. 1305 01:59:41,628 --> 01:59:44,920 These are good people. They do not say anything. 1306 01:59:45,088 --> 01:59:48,172 I have taken care of their cases for years. They are just like you. 1307 01:59:48,336 --> 01:59:50,296 They are stateless. 1308 01:59:50,460 --> 01:59:55,044 They are waiting to receive refugee status by the United Nations. 1309 01:59:55,212 --> 01:59:59,380 If you are arrested, you can call me here. 1310 02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:04,920 Well. Thank you. 1311 02:00:08,544 --> 02:00:12,212 You might not notice it, Ed, 1312 02:00:12,380 --> 02:00:15,172 but you are not alone. 1313 02:00:18,296 --> 02:00:21,836 His girlfriend, amateur photographer Lindsay Mills, 1314 02:00:22,004 --> 02:00:27,212 have not heard from. She is believed to be in his parents' home. 1315 02:00:27,380 --> 02:00:32,504 She has been questioned by the FBI and remain under suspicion. 1316 02:00:32,672 --> 02:00:36,420 It's been ten days while the world is looking for Edward Snowden. 1317 02:00:36,588 --> 02:00:39,960 There are rumors that he kept hidden by a rich friend 1318 02:00:40,128 --> 02:00:43,796 in a private mansion outside Hong Kong. 1319 02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:19,960 It is now confirmed that Edward Snowden is on board a flight to Moscow. 1320 02:01:20,128 --> 02:01:25,336 Ministry of Foreign Affairs is disappointed with the Hong Kong authorities. 1321 02:01:25,504 --> 02:01:27,920 He was accompanied by a representative from WikiLeaks. 1322 02:01:28,088 --> 02:01:33,588 Snowden trying to get from Russia to Cuba and then to Ecuador. 1323 02:01:33,752 --> 02:01:37,128 At the airport in Moscow, they say, he is not allowed to change planes 1324 02:01:37,296 --> 02:01:39,752 because the United States has done his passport invalid. 1325 02:01:39,920 --> 02:01:44,044 Secretary of State John Kerry is outraged 1326 02:01:44,212 --> 02:01:46,504 Russia refuses to arrest US fugitive. 1327 02:01:46,672 --> 02:01:50,752 Now the man with no country stranded at the airport in Moscow. 1328 02:01:50,920 --> 02:01:53,460 I will not send combat aircraft 1329 02:01:53,628 --> 02:01:58,128 after a 29-year ... hacker. 1330 02:01:59,380 --> 02:02:03,628 Bolivian president's plane was forced down over Austria today 1331 02:02:03,796 --> 02:02:07,796 when there had been suspicion that Snowden was on board. 1332 02:02:07,960 --> 02:02:12,544 After 39 days at the airport hotel, he has only his Russian lawyer 1333 02:02:12,712 --> 02:02:16,252 and a legal adviser from WikiLeaks, Sarah Harrison, with him. 1334 02:02:16,420 --> 02:02:22,004 Now he can enjoy the sweet freedom under Vladimir Putin's regime. 1335 02:02:22,172 --> 02:02:25,296 Executions are still carried out. 1336 02:02:25,460 --> 02:02:28,044 Snowden deserved to get protection anywhere 1337 02:02:28,212 --> 02:02:31,752 but at least he asylum in Russia. 1338 02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:33,420 He can participate in the debate, he has started. 1339 02:02:33,588 --> 02:02:36,628 And now the world an example that shows you can do it right. 1340 02:02:36,796 --> 02:02:40,420 One does not end up in a cage, a prison. 1341 02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:45,252 After more than a year's temporary asylum in Russia 1342 02:02:45,420 --> 02:02:50,628 Snowden has now received three years of residence. 1343 02:02:58,642 --> 02:03:03,014 Og nu, live fra Moskva, Edward Snowden. 1344 02:03:05,058 --> 02:03:07,806 Hi, Ed. How are you? 1345 02:03:12,266 --> 02:03:16,806 Thanks. Forgive me if I just have to swallow it all. 1346 02:03:16,974 --> 02:03:20,890 People have always said I was a little robot like. 1347 02:03:21,058 --> 02:03:23,014 How did you end up in Russia? 1348 02:03:23,182 --> 02:03:27,850 I had no intention to end here. My passport was invalidated 1349 02:03:28,014 --> 02:03:32,182 on the way to South America, so when people ask why I'm in Russia, 1350 02:03:32,350 --> 02:03:35,806 then I say: "Ask the Foreign Ministry." 1351 02:03:35,974 --> 02:03:39,930 Does this mean you are willing to go home and be brought before a court? 1352 02:03:40,098 --> 02:03:44,182 Specific. If it was a fair and public trial. 1353 02:03:44,350 --> 02:03:47,682 But unfortunately it is not, what would happen right now 1354 02:03:47,850 --> 02:03:51,806 as long espionage law being used against whistleblowers. 1355 02:03:53,014 --> 02:03:55,974 Do you still think it was worth it? Yes. 1356 02:03:56,142 --> 02:04:02,014 Without the information to create debate, then we are doomed. 1357 02:04:02,182 --> 02:04:08,430 Now the people doubt the government. And make it accountable. 1358 02:04:08,598 --> 02:04:13,430 It is the principle that the United States was built on. 1359 02:04:13,598 --> 02:04:17,266 If we want to protect our country 1360 02:04:17,430 --> 02:04:20,850 we should protect the principle. 1361 02:04:21,014 --> 02:04:26,514 What if your argument is not being heard and our leaders do not act? 1362 02:04:26,682 --> 02:04:30,350 I think that if nothing changes, 1363 02:04:30,514 --> 02:04:35,642 so more and more people around the world stand up. 1364 02:04:35,806 --> 02:04:41,682 Whistleblowers and journalists, but also ordinary citizens. 1365 02:04:41,850 --> 02:04:45,974 And when those in power try to hide 1366 02:04:46,142 --> 02:04:51,514 by secret stamp everything, then we will speak up about it. 1367 02:04:51,682 --> 02:04:57,806 When they want to scare us to sacrifice our human rights 1368 02:04:57,974 --> 02:05:02,306 we will not be intimidated. And we will not give up. 1369 02:05:02,474 --> 02:05:06,474 And we will not be intimidated into silence. 1370 02:05:06,642 --> 02:05:11,642 You are alone in a foreign country. You will be handed over if you are traveling. 1371 02:05:11,806 --> 02:05:14,306 It has to be hard. 1372 02:05:26,182 --> 02:05:28,766 When I left Hawaii, I lost ... 1373 02:05:28,930 --> 02:05:31,222 ... alt. 1374 02:05:33,474 --> 02:05:36,350 I had a stable life. 1375 02:05:38,514 --> 02:05:42,806 A stable love relationship. A family. A future. 1376 02:05:44,182 --> 02:05:47,098 And the life I lost, but ... 1377 02:05:49,182 --> 02:05:51,890 ... I've got a new life. 1378 02:05:53,430 --> 02:05:55,642 And I'm incredibly lucky. 1379 02:05:57,974 --> 02:06:00,430 And I think, 1380 02:06:00,598 --> 02:06:04,350 that the greatest freedom I have is not having to worry about 1381 02:06:04,514 --> 02:06:09,514 what happens tomorrow, I'm happy for what I have done today. 1382 02:06:14,250 --> 02:06:18,334 Live over the Internet, Edward Snowden. 1383 02:07:05,542 --> 02:07:08,418 Edward Snowden continue to live in Moscow. 1384 02:07:08,586 --> 02:07:14,210 Lindsay Mills moved there to be with him. 1385 02:07:15,234 --> 02:07:27,034 Gerry Fernando Manado, 21 November 2016 1386 02:07:35,586 --> 02:07:41,126 Have you changed your mind? Is he more of a whistleblower than a hacker? 1387 02:07:43,374 --> 02:07:46,542 Obama will stop the NSA's mass Overvåg tion. 1388 02:07:50,918 --> 02:07:54,086 NSA's mass Overvåg tion judged illegal. 1389 02:07:57,334 --> 02:07:59,502 House of Representatives votes to stop the NSA surveillance. 1390 02:08:03,834 --> 02:08:05,794 Congress adopts NSA surveillance reform. 1391 02:08:15,958 --> 02:08:18,042 Obama signs the NSA surveillance reform. 1392 02:08:18,626 --> 02:08:22,166 What will happen to Edward Snowden? He will die in Moscow. 1393 02:08:22,334 --> 02:08:24,750 He's not coming home. 1394 02:09:01,250 --> 02:09:03,542 Is Snowden a traitor or a hero? 1395 02:09:03,710 --> 02:09:06,794 He stole very important data. 1396 02:09:25,626 --> 02:09:26,918 Breaking news. 1397 02:09:27,086 --> 02:09:31,374 Among other things, the NSA telephone surveillance changed. 1398 02:09:31,542 --> 02:09:34,710 More transparency for the secret right 1399 02:09:34,874 --> 02:09:37,294 who approve. 1400 02:09:38,666 --> 02:09:43,586 Is it a victory for Edward Snowden? It depends on the eye of the beholder. 1401 02:09:43,750 --> 02:09:46,586 US government acted illegally. 1402 02:09:46,750 --> 02:09:51,086 He should not come home without being held accountable. 1403 02:09:51,250 --> 02:09:55,418 Snowden showed the American people 1404 02:09:55,586 --> 02:10:01,126 the extent to which our freedoms and rights are being undermined. 1405 02:10:02,994 --> 02:10:09,534 Gerry Fernando Manado, 21 November 2016