1 00:00:02,535 --> 00:00:05,939 UNPROVOKED INVASION OF UKRAINE, MANY BUSINESSES ARE LEAVING 2 00:00:06,005 --> 00:00:08,808 RUSSIA IN PROTEST. >> McDONALD'S CORP SAID TUESDAY 3 00:00:08,875 --> 00:00:12,946 IT IS TEMPORARILY CLOSING ALL 847 OF ITS RESTAURANTS IN 4 00:00:13,012 --> 00:00:15,181 RUSSIA. MEANWHILE, ON THE SAME DAY, 5 00:00:15,248 --> 00:00:18,585 COCA-COLA STEPPED FORWARD TO SAY THEY, TOO, ARE SUSPENDING 6 00:00:18,651 --> 00:00:19,018 BUSINESS IN RUSSIA. 7 00:01:15,241 --> 00:01:20,980 >> Announcer: IT'S "THE LATE SHOW WITH STEPHEN COLBERT." 8 00:01:21,047 --> 00:01:24,050 TONIGHT: BRANDS ON THE RUN. 9 00:01:24,117 --> 00:01:36,062 PLUS, STEPHEN WELCOMES: AMBASSADOR MICHAEL McFAUL 10 00:01:36,129 --> 00:01:40,033 DENEE BENTON AND MUSICAL GUEST FATHER JOHN 11 00:01:40,099 --> 00:01:44,037 MISTY FEATURING JON BATISTE AND STAY 12 00:01:44,103 --> 00:01:49,843 HUMAN. 13 00:01:49,909 --> 00:01:52,078 AND NOW, LIVE ON TAPE FROM THE ED SULLIVAN THEATER IN NEW YORK 14 00:01:52,145 --> 00:01:58,551 CITY, IT'S STEPHEN COLBERT! 15 00:01:58,618 --> 00:02:13,500 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) 16 00:02:13,566 --> 00:02:18,371 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) 17 00:02:18,438 --> 00:02:24,010 HAVE HERE. NICE FRIENDS YOU'VE GOT HERE. 18 00:02:24,077 --> 00:02:25,111 HEY! WELCOME. 19 00:02:25,178 --> 00:02:30,750 WELCOME, EVERYBODY. SO NICE TO SEE ALL YOUR SHINING 20 00:02:30,817 --> 00:02:34,053 FACES IN HERE, OUT THERE, ALL AROUND THE WORLD. 21 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,055 WELCOME TO "THE LATE SHOW." I AM YOUR HOST, STEPHEN COLBERT. 22 00:02:36,122 --> 00:02:38,591 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN-- ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) 23 00:02:38,658 --> 00:02:41,761 RUSSIA BEGAN ITS BRUTAL, ILLEGAL INVASION OF UKRAINE. 24 00:02:41,828 --> 00:02:45,532 THIS IS A VAST HUMAN TRAGEDY, AND THERE ARE NO WINNERS IN WAR, 25 00:02:45,598 --> 00:02:49,936 BUT SO FAR, THE LOSER IS RUSSIA. THEY HAVE FACED UNBELIEVABLE 26 00:02:50,003 --> 00:02:53,172 RESISTANCE BY THE BRAVE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE, WHO HAVE KEPT 27 00:02:53,239 --> 00:02:55,542 PUTIN FROM MEETING WHAT HE APPARENTLY THOUGHT WOULD BE EASY 28 00:02:55,608 --> 00:02:59,479 MILITARY OBJECTIVES. WHERE PUTIN HAS SUCCEEDED IS IN 29 00:02:59,546 --> 00:03:03,249 UNITING THE ENTIRE FREE WORLD AGAINST THEM. 30 00:03:03,316 --> 00:03:07,220 RUSSIA IS GETTING ABSOLUTELY PUMMELED WITH BOYCOTTS AND 31 00:03:07,287 --> 00:03:08,321 SANCTIONS. UPON 32 00:03:08,388 --> 00:03:11,524 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Jon: YEAH, THEY SHOULD. 33 00:03:11,591 --> 00:03:15,962 >> Stephen: AS WELL THEY SHOULD. 34 00:03:16,029 --> 00:03:17,864 TO THE POINT THEY'RE TRYING TO SCARE US INTO DROPPING THEM. 35 00:03:17,931 --> 00:03:19,532 ONE KREMLIN SPOKESPERSON EXPRESSED IT IN THIS 36 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:22,535 THREATENING WAY: "THE UNITED STATES HAS DECLARED 37 00:03:22,602 --> 00:03:25,438 ECONOMIC WAR ON RUSSIA." THANK YOU FOR NOTICING. 38 00:03:25,505 --> 00:03:31,544 ( LAUGHTER ) ( LAUGHTER ) 39 00:03:31,611 --> 00:03:36,015 HAVING THE DESIRED EFFECT. YESTERDAY, FITCH, WHICH IS A 40 00:03:36,082 --> 00:03:41,988 CREDIT RATING AGENCY, DOWNGRADED RUSSIAN SECURITIES BY SIX 41 00:03:42,055 --> 00:03:43,423 NOTCHES, TO A SINGLE-C GRADE. IN THIS CASE, THE "C" STANDS FOR 42 00:03:43,489 --> 00:03:45,792 WHAT THEIR MONEY IS NOW WORTH: CRAP. 43 00:03:45,858 --> 00:03:50,430 ( LAUGHTER ) THE "C" RATING. 44 00:03:50,496 --> 00:03:55,535 >> Jon: "C" NOTE. >> Stephen: "C." 45 00:03:55,602 --> 00:03:59,539 THE "C" RATING REFLECTS FITCH'S VIEW THAT A SOVEREIGN DEFAULT IS 46 00:03:59,606 --> 00:04:08,014 IMMINENT. RUSSIA IS ABOUT TO LOSE 47 00:04:08,081 --> 00:04:11,618 EVERYTHING AND CRASH WITH A BUDDY, I GUESS. 48 00:04:11,684 --> 00:04:13,386 BELARUS BETTER HAVE A BIG COUCH, BECAUSE WITHOUT A CREDIT RATING, 49 00:04:13,453 --> 00:04:15,188 THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN PAY THEIR DEBT IS BY HOLDING A GARAGE SALE 50 00:04:15,254 --> 00:04:17,991 AT LENIN'S TOMB. EVERY PICKLED CORPSE MUST GO! 51 00:04:18,057 --> 00:04:23,529 ( LAUGHTER ) ( APPLAUSE ) 52 00:04:23,596 --> 00:04:29,769 IS THIS 1967 OR 1972? THE ECONOMY HAS GOTTEN SO BAD IN 53 00:04:29,836 --> 00:04:31,537 RUSSIA, SOME SUPERMARKETS ARE EVEN LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF 54 00:04:31,604 --> 00:04:35,541 FLOUR AND SUGAR CUSTOMERS CAN PURCHASE. 55 00:04:35,608 --> 00:04:39,612 THAT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH ON "THE GREAT RUSSIAN BAKE-OFF": 56 00:04:39,679 --> 00:04:43,516 "MY SIGNATURE BAKE TODAY IS DELICIOUS BROWNIES. 57 00:04:43,583 --> 00:04:50,123 INGREDIENTS ARE POTATO. AND BROWN. 58 00:04:50,189 --> 00:04:55,528 ( LAUGHTER ) ( LAUGHTER ) 59 00:04:55,595 --> 00:04:59,932 HOARDING ITEMS FROM IKEA, H&M, AND ZARA BEFORE THEY BECOME 60 00:04:59,999 --> 00:05:03,536 RELICS OF A BYGONE ERA. THAT'S AMAZING THAT THEY THINK 61 00:05:03,603 --> 00:05:06,539 ANYTHING FROM H&M WILL LAST LONG ENOUGH TO BECOME A RELIC. 62 00:05:06,606 --> 00:05:10,243 ( LAUGHTER ) I THINK-- I THINK THEY COME IN A 63 00:05:10,309 --> 00:05:15,548 KLEENEX BOX. I THINK THERE'S ONE WIPE. 64 00:05:15,615 --> 00:05:19,452 YESTERDAY, McDONALD'S ANNOUNCED THEY WERE TEMPORARILY CLOSING 65 00:05:19,519 --> 00:05:22,255 ALL OF THEIR LOCATIONS IN RUSSIA. 66 00:05:22,321 --> 00:05:24,490 THAT UNLEASHED A FRENZY OF PANIC BUYING. 67 00:05:24,557 --> 00:05:29,128 JUST LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE LINING UP TO GET THEIR LAST 68 00:05:29,195 --> 00:05:33,433 TASTE OF SPECIAL SAUCE. AND WITH THE GOLDEN ARCHES 69 00:05:33,499 --> 00:05:37,136 CLOSING DOWN, RUSSIANS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SETTLE FOR THEIR 70 00:05:37,203 --> 00:05:41,140 LOCAL CHAIN: "McDOSTOEVSKY'S," HOME OF THEIR 71 00:05:41,207 --> 00:05:45,378 KIDS MEAL: THE BOX OF SADNESS. ♪ BA, DA, BA, DA, DAAA 72 00:05:45,445 --> 00:05:48,715 LIFE'S MEANINGLESS.♪ ( LAUGHTER ) 73 00:05:48,781 --> 00:05:59,959 IT LOOKS LIKE-- ( APPLAUSE ) 74 00:06:00,026 --> 00:06:03,963 BRANDS ARE "RUSSIAN" FOR THE EXITS. 75 00:06:04,030 --> 00:06:06,799 YESTERDAY, COCA-COLA AND PEPSI ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WILL SUSPEND 76 00:06:06,866 --> 00:06:12,038 BUSINESS IN RUSSIA. YOUR MOVE, SHASTA! 77 00:06:12,105 --> 00:06:13,639 COKE IS SUSPENDING ALL OF THEIR OPERATIONS, BUT PEPSICO 78 00:06:13,706 --> 00:06:17,143 ANNOUNCED THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO SELL POTATO CHIPS AND DAILY 79 00:06:17,210 --> 00:06:20,480 ESSENTIALS SUCH AS MILK, CHEESE, AND BABY FORMULA, TO WHICH 80 00:06:20,546 --> 00:06:24,617 RUSSIAN BABIES SAID, "ARE YOU SURE YOU DON'T HAVE COKE? 81 00:06:24,684 --> 00:06:29,122 ( LAUGHTER ) OKAY." 82 00:06:29,188 --> 00:06:31,824 PUTIN IS TRYING TO WIN THE P.R. BATTLE AT HOME BY RALLYING HIS 83 00:06:31,891 --> 00:06:37,130 PEOPLE AROUND A NEW LOGO. REPORTEDLY, THE LETTER "Z" HAS 84 00:06:37,196 --> 00:06:41,300 BECOME A SYMBOL FOR RUSSIANS WHO SUPPORT THE INVASION OF UKRAINE. 85 00:06:41,367 --> 00:06:44,737 NO! NO, PUTIN! 86 00:06:44,804 --> 00:06:45,938 YOU KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF THE LETTER "Z"! 87 00:06:46,005 --> 00:06:49,142 IT'S ONE OF THE MOST ESSENTIAL LETTERS! 88 00:06:49,208 --> 00:06:55,615 IT'S 40% OF "PIZZA!" THE "Z" SYMBOL. 89 00:06:55,681 --> 00:06:57,416 PIZZA FANS? ( APPLAUSE ) 90 00:06:57,483 --> 00:07:04,924 THE "Z" SYMBOL STARTED POPPING UP A FEW WEEKS AGO, WHEN IT WAS 91 00:07:04,991 --> 00:07:07,627 SEEN PAINTED ON TANKS, ARMORED PERSONNEL CARRIERS, AND OTHER 92 00:07:07,693 --> 00:07:11,564 MILITARY VEHICLES ALONG THE RUSSIAN BORDER WITH UKRAINE, AND 93 00:07:11,631 --> 00:07:14,700 NOW SOME RUSSIANS ARE PUTTING "Z" STICKERS ON THE BACKS OF 94 00:07:14,767 --> 00:07:17,270 CARS AND ON RUSSIAN BILLBOARDS. ONE RUSSIAN TALK SHOW PUNDIT 95 00:07:17,336 --> 00:07:21,140 RECENTLY WORE A T-SHIRT WITH A LARGE WHITE "Z," LEADING MANY 96 00:07:21,207 --> 00:07:25,144 TO SPECULATE THAT THIS IS AN ORCHESTRATED KREMLIN EFFORT 97 00:07:25,211 --> 00:07:28,114 TO DRUM UP SUPPORT FOR THE WAR. IT REALLY MAKES PUTIN SEEM 98 00:07:28,181 --> 00:07:30,917 REALLY DESPERATE. IS THIS TRUE? 99 00:07:30,983 --> 00:07:32,084 I'M TOLD WE HAVE FOOTAGE OF RUSSIAN CITIZENS' RESPONSE TO 100 00:07:32,151 --> 00:07:37,123 THE CAMPAIGN: >> PUTIN, STOP TRYING TO 101 00:07:37,190 --> 00:07:41,194 MAKE "Z" HAPPEN! IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! 102 00:07:41,260 --> 00:07:43,062 >> Stephen: THANK YOU, COMRADE REGINA. 103 00:07:43,129 --> 00:07:48,234 IT'S A HAT. IT'S A RUSSIAN-- RUSSIAN HAT. 104 00:07:48,301 --> 00:07:53,739 BUT EVEN THOUGH IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE, NO ONE'S ACTUALLY 105 00:07:53,806 --> 00:07:55,575 SURE WHAT THE "Z" MEANS IN THIS CASE. 106 00:07:55,641 --> 00:07:57,143 SOME HAVE SUGGESTED IT STANDS FOR ZAPAD-- WHICH MEANS WEST-- 107 00:07:57,210 --> 00:07:59,912 OR ZA POBEDU, WHICH MEANS "FOR VICTORY." 108 00:07:59,979 --> 00:08:01,180 BUT NO ONE REALLY KNOWS, BECAUSE AS A LETTER, "Z" DOES NOT EXIST 109 00:08:01,247 --> 00:08:05,117 IN THE CYRILLIC RUSSIAN ALPHABET. 110 00:08:05,184 --> 00:08:08,487 AND NOTHING RALLIES THE PEOPLE LIKE SOMETHING THEY DON'T 111 00:08:08,554 --> 00:08:09,555 UNDERSTAND. THAT'S WHY U.S. ARMY RECRUITING 112 00:08:09,622 --> 00:08:11,791 POSTERS USE WINGDINGS. ( LAUGHTER ) 113 00:08:11,858 --> 00:08:17,163 THIS IS-- ( APPLAUSE ) 114 00:08:17,230 --> 00:08:24,203 SHASTA." I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. 115 00:08:24,270 --> 00:08:25,771 THIS IS UPSETTING FOR A LOT OF REASONS, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH 116 00:08:25,838 --> 00:08:29,108 IS THAT I WAS THE LETTER "Z" IN THE "SESAME STREET" ALL-STAR 117 00:08:29,175 --> 00:08:33,112 ALPHABET. THAT'S RIGHT, I'M "Z"! 118 00:08:33,179 --> 00:08:37,650 ( APPLAUSE ) ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ). 119 00:08:37,717 --> 00:08:42,688 THAT IS "SESAME STREET." THAT'S SESAME STREET." 120 00:08:42,755 --> 00:08:53,165 THAT'S AS OFFICIAL AS IT GETS. SO AS "Z," I GET TO DEFINE WHAT 121 00:08:53,232 --> 00:08:57,103 "Z" MEANS. AND RIGHT NOW, "Z" STANDS FOR 122 00:08:57,169 --> 00:09:00,039 ZELENSKYY! ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) 123 00:09:00,106 --> 00:09:09,148 THERE YOU GO. YESTERDAY, THE Z-MAN SPOKE TO 124 00:09:09,215 --> 00:09:13,252 THE BRITISH HOUSE OF COMMONS. FIRST, HE QUOTED SHAKESPEARE, 125 00:09:13,319 --> 00:09:19,158 THEN HE MOVED THE ROOM BY CHANNELING WINSTON CHURCHILL. 126 00:09:19,225 --> 00:09:21,127 >> (translated): WE WILL FIGHT TO THE END IN THE SEA, IN THE 127 00:09:21,193 --> 00:09:25,131 AIR. WE WILL FIGHT FOR OUR LAND, 128 00:09:25,197 --> 00:09:28,367 WHATEVER THE COSTS. WE WILL FIGHT IN THE FORESTS, IN 129 00:09:28,434 --> 00:09:31,637 THE FIELDS, ON THE SHORES, IN THE STREETS. 130 00:09:31,704 --> 00:09:42,949 ( APPLAUSE ) AUDIENCE. 131 00:09:43,015 --> 00:09:44,750 HE IS REALLY TUGGING ON THE OL' BRIT-STRINGS. 132 00:09:44,817 --> 00:09:48,654 HIS NEXT SPEECH IS GONNA BE: "AS YOUR GREAT WARTIME TRANSPORT 133 00:09:48,721 --> 00:09:52,892 SECRETARY THOMAS THE TANK ENGINE SAID, "YOU'RE A WIZARD, HARRY. 134 00:09:52,959 --> 00:09:57,129 CHIM-CHIMENY, CHIM-CHIMENY CHIM-PEPPA-PIG 135 00:09:57,196 --> 00:10:01,133 BANGERS AND MASH! FOR FRODO! 136 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,369 FOR FRODO! ( APPLAUSE ) 137 00:10:03,436 --> 00:10:07,707 AT THE END. ZELENSKY SPOKE TO THE HOUSE OF 138 00:10:07,773 --> 00:10:08,808 COMMONS BECAUSE, AMONG OTHER THINGS, UKRAINE WANTS MORE 139 00:10:08,874 --> 00:10:13,145 PLANES. BUT NOT JUST ANY PLANES. 140 00:10:13,212 --> 00:10:15,014 THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING FOR MIG-29 FIGHTER JETS, WHICH ITS 141 00:10:15,081 --> 00:10:17,216 PILOTS KNOW HOW TO FLY. THAT'S RIGHT. 142 00:10:17,283 --> 00:10:19,652 IT'S DIFFERENT THAN PILOTING AMERICAN JETS, BECAUSE IN 143 00:10:19,719 --> 00:10:25,124 EUROPE, THEY FLY ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SKY. 144 00:10:25,191 --> 00:10:35,201 ( LAUGHTER ) NEXT DOOR TO UKRAINE, HAS MIGS. 145 00:10:35,267 --> 00:10:36,836 BUT THERE'S A PROBLEM. THE RUSSIAN MINISTRY OF DEFENSE 146 00:10:36,902 --> 00:10:38,070 IS WARNING THAT IF WARPLANES BASED IN ANOTHER COUNTRY WERE TO 147 00:10:38,137 --> 00:10:40,139 ATTACK RUSSIAN TARGETS, THEN IT COULD BE CONSIDERED AS THOSE 148 00:10:40,206 --> 00:10:42,308 COUNTRIES' ENGAGEMENT IN THE MILITARY CONFLICT. 149 00:10:42,375 --> 00:10:45,144 OF COURSE, THERE'S A SIMPLE SOLUTION: BEFORE YOU TURN THEM 150 00:10:45,211 --> 00:10:49,548 OVER, TAKE THE LICENSE PLATES OFF THE FIGHTER JETS, AND FILE 151 00:10:49,615 --> 00:10:51,617 OFF THE VIN. NOBODY WILL KNOW. 152 00:10:51,684 --> 00:10:55,588 FILE OFF THE VIN. BUT YESTERDAY, SUDDENLY, THE 153 00:10:55,654 --> 00:10:57,823 POLISH GOVERNMENT STUNNED WASHINGTON BY ANNOUNCING THEY 154 00:10:57,890 --> 00:11:01,127 WERE READY TO TRANSFER THEIR 28 MIG-29 FIGHTER PLANES TO A U.S. 155 00:11:01,193 --> 00:11:04,964 NATO BASE IN GERMANY, SO WE CAN HAND THEM OVER TO UKRAINIAN 156 00:11:05,031 --> 00:11:08,601 PILOTS FIGHTING THE RUSSIANS. THANKS, POLAND! 157 00:11:08,667 --> 00:11:11,504 THANK FOR THAT! THAT'S LIKE SAYING, "GOOD NEWS, 158 00:11:11,570 --> 00:11:12,972 BOY SCOUTS. WE FIGURED OUT A WAY TO KEEP THE 159 00:11:13,039 --> 00:11:15,608 BEAR FROM MAULING RICKY OVER THERE. 160 00:11:15,674 --> 00:11:20,713 CARTER, COME PUT ON THIS BACKPACK FULL OF SALMON AND 161 00:11:20,780 --> 00:11:24,250 HONEY, TAKE THIS STICK AND GO POKE HIM IN THE EYE. 162 00:11:24,316 --> 00:11:27,253 POKE THAT BEAR! GO ON, BUDDY. 163 00:11:27,319 --> 00:11:29,221 YOU GOT IT." >> Jon: OH, MY GOSH! 164 00:11:29,288 --> 00:11:37,129 ( APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: PUNCH HIM IN THE 165 00:11:37,196 --> 00:11:41,100 TONSILS! WE'VE GOT A GREAT SHOW FOR YOU 166 00:11:41,167 --> 00:11:44,136 TONIGHT. MY GUEST IS OBAMA'S AMBASSADOR 167 00:11:44,203 --> 00:11:45,137 TO RUSSIA, MICHAEL McFAUL. AND THE STAR OF "THE GILDED 168 00:11:45,204 --> 00:11:47,840 AGE," DENEE BENTON. STICK AROUND. 169 00:12:18,704 --> 00:12:21,307 GIVE IT UP FOR JON BATISTE AND STAY HUMAN RIGHT OVER THERE! 170 00:12:21,373 --> 00:12:36,255 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) I... 171 00:12:36,322 --> 00:12:37,456 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) I... 172 00:12:37,523 --> 00:12:47,633 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) GOT HERE-- WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF 173 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:50,169 AMAZING GUESTS TONIGHT. BEFORE WE GET TO THE GUESTS, I 174 00:12:50,236 --> 00:12:52,838 WANTED TO SAY YOU KNOW HOW LUCKY I FEEL. 175 00:12:52,905 --> 00:12:55,441 ONE OF THE REASONS I'M LUCKY TO HAVE THE SHOW IS I GET TO SHARE 176 00:12:55,508 --> 00:12:58,811 THE STAGE WITH YOU AND THE BAND EVERY NIGHT AND WHAT A PLEASURE 177 00:12:58,878 --> 00:13:01,447 IT IS. BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT, NO 178 00:13:01,514 --> 00:13:03,782 MATTER WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE WORLD, THAT MUSIC YOU DO IS A 179 00:13:03,849 --> 00:13:07,720 FORCE OF POSITIVITY. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. 180 00:13:07,786 --> 00:13:10,055 BEAUTY IS TRUTH, TRUTH IS BEAT BUTTY. 181 00:13:10,122 --> 00:13:12,191 THAT IS ALL YOU KNOW AND ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW. 182 00:13:12,258 --> 00:13:15,060 AND I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOUR REACTION IS TO HOW MOVING IT IS 183 00:13:15,127 --> 00:13:19,365 TO SEE THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE PLAYING MUSIC IN THE FACE OF 184 00:13:19,431 --> 00:13:21,367 THIS EVIL. >> Jon: FOR ME, THAT'S WHAT 185 00:13:21,433 --> 00:13:23,502 MUSIC IS ALL ABOUT. THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON THAT IT 186 00:13:23,569 --> 00:13:28,908 EXISTS UNTIL THE UNIVERSE. ( APPLAUSE ) 187 00:13:28,974 --> 00:13:34,713 HOPE. WHEN YOU PLAY MUSIC AND YOU SEE 188 00:13:34,780 --> 00:13:38,284 PEOPLE GATHERING JUST TO HEAR IT, THEY FORGET, JUST FOR THAT 189 00:13:38,350 --> 00:13:41,320 MOMENT, WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND IT FILLS THEM WITH SOMETHING THAT'S 190 00:13:41,387 --> 00:13:43,455 VERY GOOD FOR THEIR SOUL. THAT'S WHAT MUSIC IS ABOUT. 191 00:13:43,522 --> 00:13:45,391 >> Stephen: IT'S A FOOD, IT'S A FOOD. 192 00:13:45,457 --> 00:13:47,560 >> Jon: IT'S FOOD, SPIRITUAL FOOD. 193 00:13:47,626 --> 00:13:51,730 >> Stephen: COMMUNION. ( APPLAUSE ) 194 00:13:51,797 --> 00:13:56,368 BENTON, BROADSTAR AND STAR OF THE "THE GILDED AGE" WILL BE OUT 195 00:13:56,435 --> 00:14:00,873 HERE IN A MOMENT. MY GUEST TONIGHT IS 196 00:14:00,940 --> 00:14:02,541 A PROFESSOR AT STANFORD UNIVERSITY WHO SERVED AS THE 197 00:14:02,608 --> 00:14:04,810 U.S. AMBASSADOR TO RUSSIA FROM 2012 TO 2014. 198 00:14:04,877 --> 00:14:08,314 PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO "THE LATE SHOW," AMBASSADOR MICHAEL 199 00:14:08,380 --> 00:14:10,849 McFAUL! ♪ ♪ ♪ 200 00:14:10,916 --> 00:14:22,795 ♪ ♪ ♪ ( APPLAUSE ) 201 00:14:22,861 --> 00:14:27,166 >> Stephen: GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. 202 00:14:27,233 --> 00:14:30,236 >> GREAT TO BE BACK. >> Stephen: AMBASSADOR 203 00:14:30,302 --> 00:14:33,572 MICHAEL, HOW DO YOU LIKE IT? >> MIKE'S JUST FINE I CAN CALL 204 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:34,607 YOU STEVE? >> Stephen: NO. 205 00:14:34,673 --> 00:14:37,142 >> OKAY. >> Stephen: I MIGHT CALL YOU 206 00:14:37,209 --> 00:14:39,645 AMBASSADOR BECAUSE I'M A SILLY MAN WITH A STUPID SHOW, AND 207 00:14:39,712 --> 00:14:42,681 THESE ARE VERY SERIOUS TIMES AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL YOU COULD BE 208 00:14:42,748 --> 00:14:45,417 HERE TO TRY TO GIVE US SOME CONTEXT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. 209 00:14:45,484 --> 00:14:48,887 HOW LONG-- WAS IT TWO YEARS YOU WERE AN AMBASSADOR TO RUSSIA? 210 00:14:48,954 --> 00:14:51,690 >> TWO YEARS IN MOSCOW, BUT THREE YEARS AT THE WHITE HOUSE 211 00:14:51,757 --> 00:14:53,325 WORKING FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA ON RUSSIA AS WELL. 212 00:14:53,392 --> 00:14:56,895 SO FIVE YEARS IN THE GOVERNMENT. >> Stephen: I UNDERSTAND THAT 213 00:14:56,962 --> 00:15:01,867 YOU'RE IN TOUCH WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE BUNKER, OR WHEREVER 214 00:15:01,934 --> 00:15:03,102 ZELENSKY IS. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 215 00:15:03,168 --> 00:15:04,703 >> Stephen: RIGHT NOW. >> JUST 30 MINUTES AGO. 216 00:15:04,770 --> 00:15:07,506 >> Stephen: YOU WERE JUST TALKING WITH SOME OF THEM OKAY. 217 00:15:07,573 --> 00:15:12,211 >> TEXTING WITH THEM. MY MAN STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO 218 00:15:12,278 --> 00:15:13,379 PRESIDENT ZELENSKY. >> Stephen: SO WHAT ARE YOU 219 00:15:13,445 --> 00:15:15,581 HEARING FROM THEM? >> WELL, TWO THINGS. 220 00:15:15,648 --> 00:15:21,353 FIRST OF ALL, THAT GUY IS AN INCREDIBLE HERO OF OUR TIMES. 221 00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:28,227 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ). ARE YOU KNOW, I HOSTED HIM AT 222 00:15:28,294 --> 00:15:29,762 STANFORD LAST SUMMER FOR ABOUT FIVE HOURS. 223 00:15:29,828 --> 00:15:31,964 WE HAD-- YOU KNOW, IT WAS A FUN TIME. 224 00:15:32,031 --> 00:15:35,467 HE LIKES TO MAKE JOKES, TOO. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW HIS 225 00:15:35,534 --> 00:15:36,735 CAREER. >> Stephen: HE PLAYED THE 226 00:15:36,802 --> 00:15:39,638 PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE IN A COMEDY BEFORE HE WAS THE PRESIDENT OF 227 00:15:39,705 --> 00:15:40,839 UKRAINE. >> CORRECT. 228 00:15:40,906 --> 00:15:43,175 >> Stephen: I DON'T BELIEVE IN MIXING COMEDY AND POLITICS. 229 00:15:43,242 --> 00:15:45,678 >> OKAY, ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE NOT PLANNING TO RUN FOR 230 00:15:45,744 --> 00:15:46,812 PRESIDENT? OKAY. 231 00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:48,847 HE JUST SAID IT HERE. HE'S NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. 232 00:15:48,914 --> 00:15:52,117 BUT, I MEAN, HE'S AN CHARISMATIC, FUN, INTERESTING 233 00:15:52,184 --> 00:15:53,852 GUY. YOU KNOW, I FOLLOWED HIS CAREER 234 00:15:53,919 --> 00:15:57,323 FOR A LONG TIME. BUT TO SEE THIS TRANSFORMATION 235 00:15:57,389 --> 00:15:59,958 IS QUITE REMARKABLE. UKRAINE, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, 236 00:16:00,025 --> 00:16:02,528 IS A DEMOCRATIC PLACE. THEY'VE GOT OPPOSITION PARTIES, 237 00:16:02,594 --> 00:16:06,098 PEOPLE THAT HATED HIM. THINGS ARE NASTY THERE. 238 00:16:06,165 --> 00:16:09,335 THEY'VE ALL RALLIED BEHIND HIM, AND HE'S TRULY A HEROIC FIGURE, 239 00:16:09,401 --> 00:16:11,637 IN MY EYES. SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING. 240 00:16:11,704 --> 00:16:15,107 THEY'RE FIGHTING HEROICALLY. THEY WILL FIGHT TO THE PEND UPON 241 00:16:15,174 --> 00:16:17,843 THEY WILL ONE DAY WIN. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT WILL 242 00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:19,978 BE. BUT THEY'RE ALSO FRUSTRATED. 243 00:16:20,045 --> 00:16:21,413 THEY'RE ALSO FRUSTRATE. >> Stephen: THEY WANT MORE 244 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,317 FROM THE WESTERN POWERS, AND US SPECIFICALLY, OBVIOUSLY. 245 00:16:25,384 --> 00:16:26,652 >> CORRECT. >> Stephen: WHAT MORE CAN WE 246 00:16:26,719 --> 00:16:28,187 REALLY DO? I WANT TO GET TO THAT SUBJECT. 247 00:16:28,253 --> 00:16:33,659 WHAT CAN WE DO SHORT OF ACTUALLY GETTING IN THE MILITARY 248 00:16:33,726 --> 00:16:35,361 ENGAGEMENT, TO BE FIGHTING ON THE GROUND WITH THEM OR IN THE 249 00:16:35,427 --> 00:16:36,862 AIR? >> WELL, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT 250 00:16:36,929 --> 00:16:39,965 WE SHOULD GO TO WAR WITH RUSSIA IN UKRAINE. 251 00:16:40,032 --> 00:16:43,769 SO WHEN IT'S-- YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN ARGUMENT ABOUT THE NO-FLY 252 00:16:43,836 --> 00:16:45,604 ZONE, RIGHT. THAT'S THE LATEST NEWS RIGHT 253 00:16:45,671 --> 00:16:47,306 NOW. THAT MEANS-- A NO-FLY ZONE IS A 254 00:16:47,373 --> 00:16:49,508 EUPHEMISM FOR A DECLARATION OF WAR. 255 00:16:49,575 --> 00:16:52,544 THAT MEANS THAT AN AMERICAN PILOT SHOOT DOWN A RUSSIAN 256 00:16:52,611 --> 00:16:54,446 PILOT, AND THAT'S A DECLARATION OF WAR. 257 00:16:54,513 --> 00:16:57,249 SO WE SHOULD JUST CALL IT THAT. I THINK THAT'S A MISTAKE. 258 00:16:57,316 --> 00:16:58,751 I I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT. 259 00:16:58,817 --> 00:17:01,253 I SUPPORT PRESIDENT. >> Stephen: WE WOULD ALSO HAVE 260 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,857 TO TAKE OUT OF OUT ANTI-AIRCRAFT BATTERIES, CORRECT? 261 00:17:04,923 --> 00:17:08,193 >> CORRECT. YOU CAN'T JUST FLY SORTIES OVER 262 00:17:08,260 --> 00:17:10,796 THERE. AND THE RUSSIANS, BY THE WAY, 263 00:17:10,863 --> 00:17:14,666 HAVE VERY GOOD ANTI-AIRCRAFT. >> Stephen: AND IT WOULD BE IN 264 00:17:14,733 --> 00:17:16,235 RUSSIA. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO BE BOMBING 265 00:17:16,301 --> 00:17:17,503 IN RUSSIA. >> CORRECT. 266 00:17:17,569 --> 00:17:20,272 I THINK THAT'S OFF THE TABLE. I SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT ON THAT. 267 00:17:20,339 --> 00:17:22,775 EVERYTHING SHORT OF THAT I THINK WE SHOULD DO FOR THEM. 268 00:17:22,841 --> 00:17:25,944 THAT MEANS MORE WEAPON SYSTEMS AND MORE SANCTIONS ON THE 269 00:17:26,011 --> 00:17:28,247 RUSSIAN ECONOMY. SO MORE WEAPONS, MORE SANCTIONS. 270 00:17:28,313 --> 00:17:30,048 THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT. I MEAN, HE WANTS MORE THAN THAT. 271 00:17:30,115 --> 00:17:33,852 HE WANTS A NO-FLY ZONE. ZELENSKY SAYS THAT VERY CLEARLY 272 00:17:33,919 --> 00:17:35,854 BECAUSE HE WANTS NATO TO BE INVOLVED IN THE WAR. 273 00:17:35,921 --> 00:17:38,457 AND CAN YOU BLAME HIM? >> Stephen: HE'S ALREADY IN 274 00:17:38,524 --> 00:17:39,658 THE WAR. >> HE'S IN THE WAR. 275 00:17:39,725 --> 00:17:43,529 HIS KIDS ARE DYING. THEIR CHILDREN ARE BEING BOMBED 276 00:17:43,595 --> 00:17:47,399 BY THIS-- THIS EVIL MAN WHO RULES RUSSIA. 277 00:17:47,466 --> 00:17:51,236 HE WANTS US TO GET INVOLVED. AND THAT'S THE DIFFICULT SPACE. 278 00:17:51,303 --> 00:17:55,474 THAT'S HIS NATIONAL INTEREST. THE PRESIDENT IS PROTECTING US. 279 00:17:55,541 --> 00:17:59,445 THEY OVERLAP A LOT, BUT THERE ARE SOME PLACES WHERE THEY 280 00:17:59,511 --> 00:18:02,381 DISAGREE. >> Stephen: ZELENSKY IS 281 00:18:02,448 --> 00:18:06,718 SHOWING EXTRAORDINARY BRAVERY. HOW WORRIED SHOULD-- HOW WORRIED 282 00:18:06,785 --> 00:18:10,989 ARE YOU FOR HIS SAFETY? >> VERY. 283 00:18:11,056 --> 00:18:16,128 BECAUSE PRESIDENT PUTIN, WHEN HE ANNOUNCED THIS WAR, IT WAS A 284 00:18:16,195 --> 00:18:19,465 58-MINUTE SPEECH. SO, BY THE WAY, IF YOU'VE GOT TO 285 00:18:19,531 --> 00:18:21,834 GIVE A 58-MINUTE SPEECH TO EXPLAIN WHAT YOU'RE DOING, THAT 286 00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:23,869 PROBABLY MEANS YOU DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 287 00:18:23,936 --> 00:18:27,172 I'M PROBABLY THE ONLY PERSON THAT LISTENED TO THE WHOLE 288 00:18:27,239 --> 00:18:28,640 THING. I SPEAK RUSSIAN. 289 00:18:28,707 --> 00:18:31,577 I BET MOST RUSSIANS TUNED OUT AFTER A MINUTE, 50. 290 00:18:31,643 --> 00:18:36,048 BUT HE SAID TWO THINGS, AND HE'S A DEAD SERIOUS GUY. 291 00:18:36,114 --> 00:18:39,985 I'VE DEALT WITH HIM. I MET HIM FIRST IN 1991. 292 00:18:40,052 --> 00:18:42,921 I FOLLOWED HIS CAREER. HE HAS CHANGED A LOT IN THAT 293 00:18:42,988 --> 00:18:44,423 TIME. HE SAID TWO THINGS AND WE SHOULD 294 00:18:44,490 --> 00:18:47,960 LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAID. ONE, "I PLAN TO DESTROY THE 295 00:18:48,026 --> 00:18:53,499 UKRAINIAN MILITARY." AND, TWO, "I WANT TO CARRY OUT 296 00:18:53,565 --> 00:18:55,567 DE-NAZIFICATION." AND WHAT HE MEANS BY THAT IS TO 297 00:18:55,634 --> 00:18:57,970 WIPE OUT THE GOVERNMENT, TO KILL MR. ZELENSKY. 298 00:18:58,036 --> 00:19:01,139 OUR INTELLIGENCE HAS FOUND A HIT LIST OF PEOPLE THEY PLAN TO 299 00:19:01,206 --> 00:19:05,010 KILL, AND THEY'RE THE PEOPLE THAT LED WHAT THE UKRAINIANS 300 00:19:05,077 --> 00:19:06,645 CALL THE REVOLUTION OF DIGNITY BACK IN 2014. 301 00:19:06,712 --> 00:19:08,614 I HAVE SEVERAL FRIENDS ON THAT LIST. 302 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,917 AND HE'S DEAD SERIOUS ABOUT IT. AND I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR-- 303 00:19:11,984 --> 00:19:19,157 WHEN HE SAYS "DE-NAZIFICATION," HE'S TALKING ABOUT A JEWISH 304 00:19:19,224 --> 00:19:22,761 PRESIDENT, ZELENSKY, WHOSE NATIVE TONGUE IS RUSSIAN, WHOSE 305 00:19:22,828 --> 00:19:25,497 GRANDPARENTS FOUGHT AGAINST REAL NAZIS IN WORLD WAR II. 306 00:19:25,564 --> 00:19:30,302 THAT'S WHAT HE PLANS TO DO. AND, BY THE WAY, THEY'RE ALREADY 307 00:19:30,369 --> 00:19:31,837 KILLERS. THEY'RE MURDERERS. 308 00:19:31,904 --> 00:19:33,572 IT THEY'RE CALLED... TRY TO SAY THAT WORD. 309 00:19:33,639 --> 00:19:38,076 IT'S A HARD WORD. THEY ARE CHECHIEN ASSASSINS 310 00:19:38,143 --> 00:19:41,013 WHOSE JOB IS TO-- TO TAKE OUT ASSASSINATION. 311 00:19:41,079 --> 00:19:44,616 SO I'M VERY WORRIED FOR HIM. I ADMIRE HIS COURAGE TO STAY IN 312 00:19:44,683 --> 00:19:48,620 KYIV, THE CAPITAL. BUT I-- I WORRY FOR HIM AND THE 313 00:19:48,687 --> 00:19:50,923 PEOPLE AROUND HIM. >> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A 314 00:19:50,989 --> 00:19:54,226 BREAK, BUT WHEN WE COME BACK, I WILL AMBASSADOR McFAUL HOW 315 00:19:54,293 --> 00:19:58,297 THIS WAR IS PLAYING TO THE RUSSIAN POPULOUS. 316 00:19:58,363 --> 00:19:58,797 STICK AROUND. 317 00:20:05,404 --> 00:20:08,006 WE'RE BACK WITH AMBASSADOR MICHAEL McFAUL. 318 00:20:08,073 --> 00:20:09,408 LET'S TALK ABOUT PUTIN FOR A MOMENT. 319 00:20:09,474 --> 00:20:12,277 AS YOU SAID, YOU'VE MET HIM MANY TIMES. 320 00:20:12,344 --> 00:20:14,846 YOU'VE WRITTEN ABOUT HIM VERY OFTEN. 321 00:20:14,913 --> 00:20:17,950 IS THIS ALL JUST BEING BROADCAST OUT OF THE BACK OF PUTIN'S HEAD? 322 00:20:18,016 --> 00:20:22,020 IF PUTIN WASN'T THERE, WOULD THIS BE HAPPENING? 323 00:20:22,087 --> 00:20:26,058 >> NO, IT WOULDN'T BE HAPPENING. I DO REALLY THINK THIS IS ABOUT 324 00:20:26,124 --> 00:20:29,428 ONE MAN AND A MAN WHO HAS OVERREACHED. 325 00:20:29,494 --> 00:20:35,267 REMEMBER, WHEN HE WAS NAMED PRESIDENT, OR PRESIDENT-ELECT BY 326 00:20:35,334 --> 00:20:39,438 THEN-PRESIDENT YELTSUN, HE WAS AN OBSCURE K.G.B. GUY. 327 00:20:39,504 --> 00:20:44,810 NOBODY KNEW HIM. HE DIDN'T HAVE A POPULAR BASE. 328 00:20:44,876 --> 00:20:47,980 AND IF YELTSIN HAD CHONES WHO HE REALLY WANTED, I THINK RUSSIA 329 00:20:48,046 --> 00:20:51,383 WOULD BE VERY DIFFERENT. I THINK LEADERS MATTER. 330 00:20:51,450 --> 00:20:54,720 AND I THINK THAT WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS ONE OF THE WORST 331 00:20:54,786 --> 00:20:57,055 DECISIONS OF THE 21st CENTURY, CHOOSING PUTIN TO BE 332 00:20:57,122 --> 00:21:00,058 THE LEADER. AND LET'S BE CLEAR-- HE'S BEEN 333 00:21:00,125 --> 00:21:03,428 ON A GOOD RUN. FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE, HE'S BEEN 334 00:21:03,495 --> 00:21:06,331 SUCCESSFUL AT HOME. HE'S BUILT THE ECONOMY, COMPARED 335 00:21:06,398 --> 00:21:09,701 TO WHAT IT WAS IN THE 90s. AND HE'S NOT AFRAID OF WAR. 336 00:21:09,768 --> 00:21:16,842 THIS IS HIS FIFTH WAR. CHESH NEAH 2000, GEORGIA, 2014, 337 00:21:16,908 --> 00:21:19,011 SYRIA, 2015, AND I THINK HE JUST WENT ON A RUN. 338 00:21:19,077 --> 00:21:22,080 HE THOUGHT HISTORY WAS ON HIS SIDE, AND NOW I THINK HE'S 339 00:21:22,147 --> 00:21:25,217 OVERREACHED IN UKRAINE. AND IT KIND OF REMAINS ME OF 340 00:21:25,283 --> 00:21:28,086 BREZHNEV, ONE OF THE LAST LEADERS OF THE SOVIET UNION, WHO 341 00:21:28,153 --> 00:21:32,157 IN THE 70s, YOU KNOW, THEY ALSO WENT ON A RUN. 342 00:21:32,224 --> 00:21:38,630 VIETNAM, LASO, CAMBODIA, THEY ALL FELL TO THE COMMUNISTS, 343 00:21:38,697 --> 00:21:40,465 MOZAMBIQUE, NICARAGUA, IT SEEMED HISTORY WAS ON THEIR SIDE. 344 00:21:40,532 --> 00:21:43,402 AND HE DECIDED LET'S TAKE AFGHANISTAN AND HE OVERREACHED. 345 00:21:43,468 --> 00:21:45,837 AND THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF THE SOVIET UNION. 346 00:21:45,904 --> 00:21:48,473 THIS FEELS TO ME LIKE BEAUT PEUTIN'S AFGHANISTAN. 347 00:21:48,540 --> 00:21:50,676 >> Stephen: DO YOU STILL HAVE CONTACTS OF PEOPLE IN RUSSIA 348 00:21:50,742 --> 00:21:52,511 THAT YOU TALK TO? >> EVERY SINGLE DAY. 349 00:21:52,577 --> 00:21:54,312 EVERY SINGLE DAY. >> Stephen: HOW IS THIS 350 00:21:54,379 --> 00:21:57,916 PLAYING BACK IN RUSSIA? HOW-- I KNOW WHAT IS BEING-- OR 351 00:21:57,983 --> 00:22:01,586 AT LEAST I HAVE SEEN EXAMPLES OF HOW THIS IS BEING FED TO THE 352 00:22:01,653 --> 00:22:03,955 RUSSIAN PEOPLE OVER OFFICIAL STATE MEDIA. 353 00:22:04,022 --> 00:22:07,259 BUT HOW IS IT ACTUALLY BEING RECEIVED? 354 00:22:07,325 --> 00:22:10,195 >> GREAT QUESTION. NOT ALL RUSSIANS THINK ALIKE. 355 00:22:10,262 --> 00:22:12,330 I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT. 356 00:22:12,397 --> 00:22:17,703 THEY HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS AND DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS, AND TO 357 00:22:17,769 --> 00:22:19,771 OVERSIMPLIFY-- AND THIS MIGHT SOUND PRETTY SIMILAR TO OUR 358 00:22:19,838 --> 00:22:23,075 COUNTRY-- THE RICHER YOU ARE, THE BETTER EDUCATED YOU ARE, THE 359 00:22:23,141 --> 00:22:26,578 MORE URBAN YOU ARE, AND THE YOUNGER YOU ARE, THE LESS LIKELY 360 00:22:26,645 --> 00:22:31,450 YOU ARE TO LISTEN TO PUTIN'S PROPAGANDA. 361 00:22:31,516 --> 00:22:34,553 AND THEY SAY THE EXACT OPPOSITE. RURAL PEOPLE, ELDERLY PEOPLE, 362 00:22:34,619 --> 00:22:37,789 NOT EDUCATED PEOPLE, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT LISTEN TO PUTIN'S 363 00:22:37,856 --> 00:22:39,224 PROPAGANDA. AND THERE'S A REAL DIVIDE. 364 00:22:39,291 --> 00:22:42,828 BUT AMONG ELITES, STEPHEN, IVERMECTIN GOT TO SAY, LIKE 365 00:22:42,894 --> 00:22:45,764 I'VE, YOU KNOW, SPENT-- I FIRST LIVED IN THE SOVIET UNION IN 366 00:22:45,831 --> 00:22:48,734 1983. I'VE LIVED SIX OR SEVEN YEARS OF 367 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:53,038 MY LIFE OVER 30 YEARS THERE. I'M NO ON THE SANCTIONS LIST SO 368 00:22:53,105 --> 00:22:56,341 I CAN'T GO BACK, AND, FRANKLY, I WOULDN'T WANT TO GO BACK RIGHT 369 00:22:56,408 --> 00:22:58,276 NOW. IT'S TOO SCARY. 370 00:22:58,343 --> 00:23:03,248 BUT THAT SOCIETY-- THE ELITE SOCIETY I KNOW-- I DON'T WANT TO 371 00:23:03,315 --> 00:23:05,317 PRETEND TON WHAT SIBERIA IS THINKING. 372 00:23:05,383 --> 00:23:07,686 I CAN SEE THEM ON TV. I WATCH TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE 373 00:23:07,753 --> 00:23:08,820 DOING. THEY SUPPORT THE WAR. 374 00:23:08,887 --> 00:23:13,525 BUT ACROSS THE SPECTRUM OF THE ELITES, THERE IS SHOCK. 375 00:23:13,592 --> 00:23:16,561 THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT PUTIN WAS GOING TO DO THIS. 376 00:23:16,628 --> 00:23:19,231 AND THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE WE WERE GOING TO DO THE SANCTIONS THE 377 00:23:19,297 --> 00:23:21,066 WAY WE DID. AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN PEOPLE ARE 378 00:23:21,133 --> 00:23:22,768 GOING TO PROTEST. BUT FROM -- 379 00:23:22,834 --> 00:23:27,239 >> Stephen: THERE ARE REMARKABLY PROTESTS GIVEN 380 00:23:27,305 --> 00:23:31,209 THERE'S A 15-MINUTE-- GIVEN THERE'S A 15-YEAR POSSIBLE JAIL 381 00:23:31,276 --> 00:23:32,344 SENTENCE FOR PROTESTING. >> YES. 382 00:23:32,410 --> 00:23:35,180 >> Stephen: IT'S REMARKABLE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE, THOUGH. 383 00:23:35,247 --> 00:23:37,415 >> INCREDIBLE, INCREDIBLE COURAGE, GIVEN THOSE ODDS. 384 00:23:37,482 --> 00:23:41,486 BUT FOR EVERY 10,000-- AND THOSE TEND TO BE YOUNGER PEOPLE-- I'M 385 00:23:41,553 --> 00:23:45,357 CONVINCED THAT THERE'S TENS OF THOUSANDS THAT ARE SUPPORTING 386 00:23:45,423 --> 00:23:46,725 HIM. >> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A 387 00:23:46,792 --> 00:23:49,294 BREAK. DON'T GO AWAY, WE'LL BE RIGHT 388 00:23:49,361 --> 00:23:52,130 BACK WITH MORE AMBASSADOR MICHAEL McFAUL. 389 00:23:59,504 --> 00:24:03,775 WE'RE BACK HERE WITH FORMER AMBASSADOR TO RUSSIA, MICHAEL 390 00:24:03,842 --> 00:24:07,913 McFAUL. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT THE END 391 00:24:07,979 --> 00:24:11,716 GAME OF THIS WAR IS-- NOT THAT I'M ASKING YOU TO PREDICT THE 392 00:24:11,783 --> 00:24:13,752 FUTURE. BUT LET'S START WITH ONE SIMPLE 393 00:24:13,819 --> 00:24:17,556 THING IS DOES PUTIN, IF IT REALLY IS HE'S THE MAN 394 00:24:17,622 --> 00:24:21,393 MOTIVATING ALL OF THIS, WHAT ARE HIS WEAK POINTS? 395 00:24:21,459 --> 00:24:23,562 WHAT ARE THINGS THAT COULD GET TO HIM? 396 00:24:23,628 --> 00:24:26,798 DO THESE SANCTIONS GET TO HIM? IS THERE A POPULAR UPRISING 397 00:24:26,865 --> 00:24:29,935 AGAINST HIM? DO THE OLIGARCHS TURN AGAINST 398 00:24:30,001 --> 00:24:31,703 HIM? WHAT ARE THE WAYS IN WHICH PUTIN 399 00:24:31,770 --> 00:24:37,542 HIMSELF COULD BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE OR BE DISSUADED FROM 400 00:24:37,609 --> 00:24:39,544 CONTINUING THIS WAR? >> YOU'RE RIGHT. 401 00:24:39,611 --> 00:24:42,781 I'M NOT GOOD AT PREDICTING THE FUTURE. 402 00:24:42,848 --> 00:24:43,949 POLITICAL SCIENTISTS AREN'T VERY GOOD AT THAT. 403 00:24:44,015 --> 00:24:47,085 BY THE WAY I WORKED FIVE YEARS IN THE GOVERNMENT. 404 00:24:47,152 --> 00:24:49,421 THE C.I.A. IS NOT VERY GOOD AT IT, EITHER. 405 00:24:49,487 --> 00:24:53,592 ( LAUGHTER ) THEY SEEM IMPOSSIBLE, AND 406 00:24:53,658 --> 00:24:56,428 AFTERWARDS THEY SEEM INEVITABLE, SO I WANT TO THEY WITH HUMILITY. 407 00:24:56,494 --> 00:24:58,396 I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. 408 00:24:58,463 --> 00:25:01,366 BUT I CAN GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF GUESSES. 409 00:25:01,433 --> 00:25:05,770 ONE, PUTIN DOESN'T HAVE AN END GAME IN UKRAINE. 410 00:25:05,837 --> 00:25:09,975 SO LET'S SAY HE TAKES KYIV. LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, HE CAPTURES 411 00:25:10,041 --> 00:25:14,246 ZELENSKY OR ZELENSKY FLEES AND HE'S AROUND ALL THE CITIES. 412 00:25:14,312 --> 00:25:17,682 THEN WHAT? HE DOESN'T HAVE THE ARMY, HE 413 00:25:17,749 --> 00:25:20,051 DOESN'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO OCCUPY-- THIS IS THE LARGEST 414 00:25:20,118 --> 00:25:22,487 COUNTRY IN EUROPE, 44 MILLION PEOPLE. 415 00:25:22,554 --> 00:25:26,424 HE DOES NOT HAVE AN ARMY CAPABLE OF DOING THAT. 416 00:25:26,491 --> 00:25:29,327 THAT'S DIFFERENT BETWEEN HIM TODAY AND STALIN AFTER WORLD WAR 417 00:25:29,394 --> 00:25:30,929 II. HE HAD MILLIONS IN THE RED ARMY. 418 00:25:30,996 --> 00:25:33,965 PUTIN DOES NOT. TWO, HE DOESN'T HAVE AN ARGUMENT 419 00:25:34,032 --> 00:25:36,134 FOR DOING IT. WHATEVER YOU THINK OF STALIN, 420 00:25:36,201 --> 00:25:39,638 STALIN WAS FIGHTING REAL FASCISM, NOT THE FAKE FASCISM 421 00:25:39,704 --> 00:25:43,541 THAT PUTIN IS TALKING ABOUT. SO WHEN THEY CLEARED OUT, THEY 422 00:25:43,608 --> 00:25:48,179 HAD PUPPETS, COMMUNISTS THAT WOULD WORK WITH THEM IN THE THIS 423 00:25:48,246 --> 00:25:50,582 COUNTRY. WHAT THEY WERE SUBJUGATED. 424 00:25:50,649 --> 00:25:53,518 HE DOESN'T HAVE THAT. MY PREDICTION FOR THE LONG RUN 425 00:25:53,585 --> 00:25:57,489 EYE DON'T KNOW WHEN OR IF KYIV WILL FALL, OR THE OTHER CITIES, 426 00:25:57,555 --> 00:25:59,991 BUT I'M CERTAIN THE UKRAINIANS WILL NEVER STOP FIGHTING EITHER 427 00:26:00,058 --> 00:26:02,928 WITH GUNS OR ACTS OF NONVIOLENCE OF RESISTANCE. 428 00:26:02,994 --> 00:26:04,829 THAT WILL LAST UNTIL THE RUSSIANS LEAVE. 429 00:26:04,896 --> 00:26:11,236 AND THAT WILL BE A DAILY PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, SONS THAT 430 00:26:11,303 --> 00:26:14,739 WILL DIE. THEY'LL BE COMING BACK IN BODY 431 00:26:14,806 --> 00:26:17,943 BAGS FOR MONTHS OR YEARS. AND THAT WILL BEGIN TO UNDERMINE 432 00:26:18,009 --> 00:26:20,712 THE WAR AT HOME. PLUS THE SANCTIONS. 433 00:26:20,779 --> 00:26:25,817 THEY-- YOU KNOW, PUTIN'S TURNING RUSSIA INTO NORTH KOREA RIGHT 434 00:26:25,884 --> 00:26:27,385 NOW, LITERALLY NORTH KOREA. THEY'RE CUT OFF. 435 00:26:27,452 --> 00:26:31,556 HE'S TRYING TO CUT THE BORDERS. HE'S EVEN TALKING ABOUT CUTTING 436 00:26:31,623 --> 00:26:34,726 THE INTERNET. AND YOU REPORTED ON ALL THE 437 00:26:34,793 --> 00:26:38,930 COMPANIES THAT HAVE LEFT. OVER TIME, THAT WILL-- THAT 438 00:26:38,997 --> 00:26:44,302 FEELING LIKE WE'RE A PARIAH STATE, WILL BEGIN TO HAUNT HIM. 439 00:26:44,369 --> 00:26:46,671 AND I THINK THERE WILL BE GROWING OPPOSITION, BOTH WITHIN 440 00:26:46,738 --> 00:26:49,841 THE ELITE AND WITHIN SOCIETY. AND I LOOK PARTICULARLY WITHIN 441 00:26:49,908 --> 00:26:54,012 THE CIRCLE AROUND HIM, LOOKING FOR DEFECTIONS, RIGHT. 442 00:26:54,079 --> 00:26:56,648 LIKE THE HEADLINE OF THE CENTRAL BANK, RIGHT. 443 00:26:56,715 --> 00:26:58,783 THAT'S SOMEBODY I KNOW PERSONALLY. 444 00:26:58,850 --> 00:27:00,819 I CAN'T BELIEVE SHE SUPPORTS THIS WAR. 445 00:27:00,885 --> 00:27:03,788 IF SOMEBODY LIKE THAT BEGINS TO LEAVE, THAT THEN OPENS WILL THE 446 00:27:03,855 --> 00:27:08,526 DOOR FOR OTHER ELITES TO SAY, "OKAY, MAYBE IT'S TIME FOR US TO 447 00:27:08,593 --> 00:27:09,995 QUIT THIS WAR." >> Stephen: MICHAEL, THANK YOU 448 00:27:10,061 --> 00:27:13,198 SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 449 00:27:13,264 --> 00:27:16,234 >> Stephen: AMBASSADOR MICHAEL McFAUL, EVERYBODY! 450 00:27:16,301 --> 00:27:19,304 WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH BROADWAY STAR DENEE BENTON. 451 00:27:26,478 --> 00:27:30,682 EVERYBODY! LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, OF THE 452 00:27:30,749 --> 00:27:38,089 JURY, MY NEXT GUEST HAS STARRED ON BROADWAY IN "HAMILTON" AND 453 00:27:38,156 --> 00:27:40,492 "THE GREAT COMET." NOW YOU CAN WATCH HER IN "THE 454 00:27:40,558 --> 00:27:44,596 GILDED AGE." PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO "THE LATE 455 00:27:44,662 --> 00:27:48,433 SHOW," DENEE BENTON! ♪ ♪ ♪ 456 00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:53,071 ( APPLAUSE ) GOOD TO SEE YOU. 457 00:27:53,138 --> 00:28:08,019 THANK YOU! >> IT DOESN'T GET OLD. 458 00:28:08,086 --> 00:28:09,921 THANK YOU! >> IT DOESN'T GET OLD. 459 00:28:09,988 --> 00:28:12,557 >> Stephen: NEITHER DOES IT GET WARM. 460 00:28:12,624 --> 00:28:15,960 YOU'LL WANT TO PUT THAT ON YOUR SHOULDERS AGAIN. 461 00:28:16,027 --> 00:28:18,863 >> IT'S ALL GLAM. >> Stephen: NOW, YOU'RE 462 00:28:18,930 --> 00:28:22,867 STARRING IN "THE GILDED AGE," FROM THE CREATORS OF "DOWNTON 463 00:28:22,934 --> 00:28:26,838 ABBEY" OVER ON HBO. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO START, LIKE, 464 00:28:26,905 --> 00:28:28,540 ONE WEEK AFTER THE PANDEMIC BEGAN. 465 00:28:28,606 --> 00:28:32,610 YOU GUYS WERE ALL READY TO GO, LITERALLY, PRINCIPAL 466 00:28:32,677 --> 00:28:34,345 PHOTOGRAPHY-- >> MARCH 17, THAT TUESDAY. 467 00:28:34,412 --> 00:28:37,015 >> Stephen: 2020. >> YEAH. 468 00:28:37,082 --> 00:28:39,250 >> Stephen: THE LOST TIME. HOW DOES IT FEEL TO FINALLY HAVE 469 00:28:39,317 --> 00:28:41,686 IT OUT THERE AFTER ALL THIS WAIT? 470 00:28:41,753 --> 00:28:43,855 >> I MEAN, IT'S BEEN BETTER THAN I COULD HAVE IMAGINED. 471 00:28:43,922 --> 00:28:47,025 YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, THE WORLD WENT THROUGH SO MANY CHANGES 472 00:28:47,092 --> 00:28:50,361 DURING THAT TIME, I WAS LIKE IS ANYONE GOING TO WATCH US BE, 473 00:28:50,428 --> 00:28:54,065 LIKE, SHADY IN CORETS? AND IT TURNS OUT THEY REALLY DO. 474 00:28:54,132 --> 00:28:56,668 ( LAUGHTER ) AND I'M REALLY GLAD. 475 00:28:56,734 --> 00:28:59,737 >> Stephen: A LITTLE SHADY CORSETING. 476 00:28:59,804 --> 00:29:03,775 >> EXACTLY. >> Stephen: NOW, THE 477 00:29:03,842 --> 00:29:06,377 INCREDIBLE AUDRA McDONALD PLAYS YOUR MOM. 478 00:29:06,444 --> 00:29:07,979 >> YES. >> Stephen: IN THIS. 479 00:29:08,046 --> 00:29:12,917 PLAWZ AND I GOTTA IMAGINE, HARD NOT TO BE AN AUDRA McDONALD 480 00:29:12,984 --> 00:29:14,586 FAN. WERE YOU BEFORE YOU WORKED WITH 481 00:29:14,652 --> 00:29:16,321 HER? >> I MEAN, YES, IT'S A LAW. 482 00:29:16,387 --> 00:29:19,791 YOU MUST BE, ESSENTIALLY, IF YOU ARE A BLACK GIRL IN MUSICAL 483 00:29:19,858 --> 00:29:22,060 THEATER. IT'S NOT NEGOTIABLE. 484 00:29:22,127 --> 00:29:24,062 >> Stephen: HAD YOU MET HER BEFORE DID YOU THIS? 485 00:29:24,129 --> 00:29:27,232 >> YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T. WHEN I WAS NOMINATED, SHE HOSTED 486 00:29:27,298 --> 00:29:30,201 AN EVENT THEY GOT TO ATTEND. AND I-- I SAW HER FROM ACROSS 487 00:29:30,268 --> 00:29:33,538 THE ROOM. I WAS,s LIKE, WORKING UP MY 488 00:29:33,605 --> 00:29:35,473 COURAGE. >> AND CHICKENED OUT, AND I 489 00:29:35,540 --> 00:29:37,809 DIDN'T INTRODUCE MYSELF. I REMEMBER I CALLED MY MOM 490 00:29:37,876 --> 00:29:39,644 CRYING AFTER. I WAS LIKE, "THIS WAS MY CHANCE 491 00:29:39,711 --> 00:29:43,815 TO MEET AUDRA McDONALD. I'M NEVER GOING TO MEET HER, AND 492 00:29:43,882 --> 00:29:46,017 I DON'T KNOW WHY I CHICKENED OUT. 493 00:29:46,084 --> 00:29:49,154 AND THE MOMENT'S GONE." AND NOW I GET TO CRY IN HER LAP 494 00:29:49,220 --> 00:29:53,992 AS MY MOM. I HAD NO CLUE. 495 00:29:54,058 --> 00:29:56,895 AND SO-- ( APPLAUSE ) 496 00:29:56,961 --> 00:30:01,533 >> Stephen: I WANT TO KNOW WHY YOU CHICKENED OUT? 497 00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:05,503 I HAVE CHICKENED OUT BEFORE. >> IT'S HARD TO MEET YOUR 498 00:30:05,570 --> 00:30:09,674 HEROES, SOMEONE YOU'VE LOOKED UP TO FOR SO LONG. 499 00:30:09,741 --> 00:30:12,010 YOU WANT EVERYTHING TO GO PERFECTLY. 500 00:30:12,076 --> 00:30:15,480 LEAST I DO. MY GOAL FOR THIS ROLE WAS I 501 00:30:15,547 --> 00:30:19,784 WANTED BLACK WOMEN TO FEEL PROUD, AND THE FACT THEY GOT TO 502 00:30:19,851 --> 00:30:22,520 DO IT BESIDE A BLACK WOMAN WHO MADE ME FEEL STOW PROUD. 503 00:30:22,587 --> 00:30:25,223 >> Stephen: WE HAVE A CLIP OF THE TWO OF YOU TOGETHER. 504 00:30:25,290 --> 00:30:29,194 DO YOU WANT TO SET THIS UP? >> PEGGY HAS HAD A LOT OF FAMILY 505 00:30:29,260 --> 00:30:32,397 DRAWM THE WHOLE SEASON THAT YOU DON'T QUITE KNOW ABOUT. 506 00:30:32,463 --> 00:30:35,133 HER MOM REFUSES TO LET THE BOND GO. 507 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,037 AND THIS IS A MOMENT WHERE PEGGY SEEMS LIKE SHE MIGHT BE LETTING 508 00:30:39,103 --> 00:30:40,738 HER BACK NWITH SOME RULES. >> Stephen: JIM. 509 00:30:40,805 --> 00:30:43,575 >> WHAT ABOUT YOU? >> THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW. 510 00:30:43,641 --> 00:30:46,411 THERE'S A LOT IN YOUR FUTURE IF YOU ONLY GET OUT AND MAKE IT 511 00:30:46,477 --> 00:30:47,679 HAPPEN. I JUST KNOW IT. 512 00:30:47,745 --> 00:30:55,987 >> YOU REMIND ME OF MRS. VRHIJN. >> IF THAT'S TRUE, I RESPECT HER 513 00:30:56,054 --> 00:30:57,288 FOR IT. >> WHAT WOULD DO YOU? 514 00:30:57,355 --> 00:31:01,159 >> STAY HERE, IF YOU LET ME, AND CONTINUE WITH MY WORK AT THE 515 00:31:01,226 --> 00:31:02,727 GLOBE. >> WE MAY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 516 00:31:02,794 --> 00:31:04,195 YOUR FATHER. >> I CAN ALWAYS MOVE OUT AGAIN. 517 00:31:04,262 --> 00:31:06,331 >> THERE'S NO NEED FOR FIGHTING TALK JUST YET. 518 00:31:06,397 --> 00:31:11,603 >> I'LL SAYING NOTHING UNLESS HE'S LOOKING FOR A FIGHT, AND IF 519 00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:14,739 HE IS, I'LL GIVE HIM ONE. >> RIGHT NOW, WOULD YOU PUT DOWN 520 00:31:14,806 --> 00:31:19,477 YOUR SWORD AND HAVE SOME COFFEE ( RINGS BELL ) 521 00:31:19,544 --> 00:31:22,447 ( APPLAUSE ). EXPLAIN THIS PHOTO TO ME. 522 00:31:22,513 --> 00:31:26,417 BECAUSE I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOUR ORIGINAL GOALS WERE. 523 00:31:26,484 --> 00:31:30,255 CLEARLY, YOU ALWAYS HAD A LOVE OF THE LIME LIGHT. 524 00:31:30,321 --> 00:31:34,959 BUT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? WAS THIS A CAREER ASPIRATION? 525 00:31:35,026 --> 00:31:40,999 >> I WENT THROUGH A VERY SERIOUS COUNTRY MUSIC COWGIRL PHASE. 526 00:31:41,065 --> 00:31:45,570 LEANNE RHYMES WAS MY WHOLE JAM. YEAH, I FELT LIKE I COULD BE 527 00:31:45,637 --> 00:31:48,773 ANYTHING. AND AT THE TIME, COYGIRL WAS THE 528 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,175 GOAL. I SPOKE OF IT IN A BEAUTY 529 00:31:51,242 --> 00:31:52,377 PAGEANT ONCE. >> Stephen: IS THAT WHAT THIS 530 00:31:52,443 --> 00:31:53,378 IS? I HAVE THIS. 531 00:31:53,444 --> 00:31:54,679 I WASN'T SURE-- >> YEAH. 532 00:31:54,746 --> 00:31:58,216 >> Stephen: THAT IS. SO HERE YOU ARE-- YOU ALSO-- 533 00:31:58,283 --> 00:32:00,718 THEN WAS YOUR NEXT DREAM TO BE A BEAUTY QUEEN? 534 00:32:00,785 --> 00:32:04,455 >> THEY'RE KIND OF CONNECTED. THIS TOOK PLACE AT A MALL IN 535 00:32:04,522 --> 00:32:07,859 ORLANDO. IT WAS CALLED "THE LITTLE MISS 536 00:32:07,925 --> 00:32:09,594 SUNBURST PAGEANT." >> Stephen: SURE. 537 00:32:09,661 --> 00:32:11,896 >> THE SUN. THERE'S A THEME. 538 00:32:11,963 --> 00:32:17,001 MY MOM PUT ME INTO IT. MY GRANDMA, MY COUSINS, MY 539 00:32:17,068 --> 00:32:19,404 AUNTIES ALL CAME. I THINK I WAS THE ONLY LITTLE 540 00:32:19,470 --> 00:32:23,775 BLACK GIRL IN THE PAGEANT. AND ALL THE OTHER GIRLS-- WE 541 00:32:23,841 --> 00:32:27,111 WERE FOUR "WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BE WHEN YOU GROW UP?" 542 00:32:27,178 --> 00:32:30,648 "I WANT TO BE A PRINCESS. AND MY MOM SAID I STRUTTED 543 00:32:30,715 --> 00:32:33,818 ACROSS THE STAGE AND SAID, "I WANT TO BE A COWGIRL." 544 00:32:33,885 --> 00:32:35,620 MY GRANDMA TELLS THE STORY ALL THE TIME. 545 00:32:35,687 --> 00:32:38,389 APPARENTLY WHEN IT WAS TIME TO ANNOUNCE THE WINNERS, ALL THE 546 00:32:38,456 --> 00:32:40,224 OTHER GIRLS WERE SITTING IN THEIR SEATS AND I WAS STANDING 547 00:32:40,291 --> 00:32:44,929 BY THE STAGE READY FOR MY NAME TO BE ANNOUNCED AND IT WAS AND I 548 00:32:44,996 --> 00:32:46,464 WON. AND SO-- 549 00:32:46,531 --> 00:32:49,634 ( APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: SO, OKAY, SO 550 00:32:49,701 --> 00:32:52,837 THAT'S A FORM-- >> SO, YES, THESE ARE CONNECTED. 551 00:32:52,904 --> 00:32:54,539 >> Stephen: THAT'S A FORM OF PERFORMANCE THERE. 552 00:32:54,605 --> 00:32:57,608 A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE YOUNGER PERFORM ON SOME LEVEL. 553 00:32:57,675 --> 00:32:59,477 >> OF COURSE. >> Stephen: WHEN DID IT GO 554 00:32:59,544 --> 00:33:03,514 FROM, I ENJOY THIS," TO "THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO"? 555 00:33:03,581 --> 00:33:06,951 >> I DEALT WITH A LOT OF SELF-DOUBT, AROUND NOT QUITE 556 00:33:07,018 --> 00:33:10,455 FEELING LIKE I BELONGED AND STEREOTYPES AROUND WHAT BLACK 557 00:33:10,521 --> 00:33:14,325 GIRLS CAN AND CANNOT DO. I FELT LIKE MY VOICE WASN'T GOOD 558 00:33:14,392 --> 00:33:15,593 ENOUGH. I WAS JUDGING MYSELF, AND THE 559 00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:19,764 SUMMER BEFORE MY SENIOR YEAR OF HIGH SCHOOL, I DID A PRODUCTION 560 00:33:19,831 --> 00:33:23,735 OF "IETATHE." >> Stephen: THAT'S NOT EASY 561 00:33:23,801 --> 00:33:24,769 SINGING. >> IT'S NOT. 562 00:33:24,836 --> 00:33:27,271 I WAS STRESSED. AND I LISTENED TO HEATHER 563 00:33:27,338 --> 00:33:30,141 HEADLEY NONSTOP. I DID IT AND FELT THIS BURST OF 564 00:33:30,208 --> 00:33:32,744 CONFIDENCE. AND I SAID, OKAY, MOM, AND DAD, 565 00:33:32,810 --> 00:33:36,381 I WANT TO GO TO DRAMA SCHOOL." AND THEY SAID, "DUH. 566 00:33:36,447 --> 00:33:39,517 WHY DO YOU THINK WE'RE PAYING FOR THE VOICE LESSONS AND 567 00:33:39,584 --> 00:33:42,253 DRIVING YOU ACROSS THE WORLD." THEY KIND OF KNEW OF MY DREAM 568 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,690 BEFORE I CAUGHT UP TO IT SO I FELT REALLY SUPPORTED TO TAKE 569 00:33:45,757 --> 00:33:48,059 THE LEAP AND I'M THANKFUL I DID. >> Stephen: IF THERE WAS ANY 570 00:33:48,126 --> 00:33:50,895 PART YOU COULD PICK RIGHT NOW TO PLAY, OTHER THAN THE PART YOU'RE 571 00:33:50,962 --> 00:33:53,331 PLAYING RIGHT NEW, WHAT WOULD IT BE? 572 00:33:53,398 --> 00:33:55,466 IF YOU COULD CAST YOURSELF. >> OH, MY GOSH. 573 00:33:55,533 --> 00:33:57,068 >> Stephen: APPROPRIATE OR NOT. 574 00:33:57,135 --> 00:33:59,437 IN OTHER WORDS, "NO ONE IS EVER GOING TO CAST ME." 575 00:33:59,504 --> 00:34:04,142 I WANT TO BE JUDAS IN "JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR," BUT I'LL 576 00:34:04,208 --> 00:34:06,077 NEVER BE CAST. >> DON'T EVER SAY NEVER. 577 00:34:06,144 --> 00:34:10,481 I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD PLAY A RUSSIAN COUNTESS HND HERE WE 578 00:34:10,548 --> 00:34:12,917 ARE. ARE. 579 00:34:12,984 --> 00:34:16,788 THE BOOK SERIES "CHILDREN OF BLOOD AND BONES," IS BEING 580 00:34:16,854 --> 00:34:21,025 TURNED INTO A FILM SERIES. IT'S WEST AFRICAN MYTHOLOGY. 581 00:34:21,092 --> 00:34:26,397 IT'S GIVING LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, HARRY POTTER MEETS OUR OWN 582 00:34:26,464 --> 00:34:29,634 AFRICAN FOLKLORE. AND I'M LIKE LET ME JUST HOLD A 583 00:34:29,700 --> 00:34:31,169 STAFF IN THE BACKGROUND. >> Stephen: GOOD LUCK. 584 00:34:31,235 --> 00:34:33,171 THIS ISN'T THE FIRST AUDITION. WHOEVER IS CASTING THIS. 585 00:34:33,237 --> 00:34:36,340 >> PLEASE, ANYONE, I'M HERE. BUT IT'S, YEAH. 586 00:34:36,407 --> 00:34:38,943 >> Stephen: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. 587 00:34:39,010 --> 00:34:40,111 >> THANK YOU. >> Stephen: NEW EPISODES OF "THE 588 00:34:40,178 --> 00:34:43,948 GILDED AGE" AIR MONDAYS ON HBO. DENEE BENTON, EVERYBODY! 589 00:34:44,015 --> 00:34:46,918 WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH A PERFORMANCE BY FATHER JOHN 590 00:34:46,984 --> 00:34:47,418 MISTY. 591 00:35:03,367 --> 00:35:07,104 "GOODBYE MR. BLUE" WHICH CAME OUT TODAY, FROM HIS FORTHCOMING 592 00:35:07,171 --> 00:35:11,442 ALBUM, "CHLOE AND THE NEXT 20th CENTURY," FATHER JOHN MISTY! 593 00:35:11,509 --> 00:35:18,049 ♪ ♪ ♪ 594 00:35:18,115 --> 00:35:27,391 ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ THIS MAY BE THE LAST TIME 595 00:35:27,458 --> 00:35:42,340 THE LAST TIME I PUT ON MY SHOES ♪ GO DOWN TO THE CORNER 596 00:35:42,406 --> 00:35:43,274 THE LAST TIME I PUT ON MY SHOES ♪ GO DOWN TO THE CORNER 597 00:35:43,341 --> 00:35:51,115 AND BUY THE DAMN CAT THE ♪ EXPENSIVE FOOD 598 00:35:51,182 --> 00:35:53,451 ♪ THAT TURKISH ANGORA IS 'BOUT THE ONLY THING LEFT 599 00:35:53,518 --> 00:36:05,496 ♪ OF ME AND YOU EARLY THIS MORNING, 600 00:36:05,563 --> 00:36:08,099 IT STARTED MAKING SOUNDS ♪ THAT SAY ”DON'T THE LAST TIME 601 00:36:08,165 --> 00:36:13,704 COME TOO SOON? ♪ ONE DOWN, EIGHT TO GO, 602 00:36:13,771 --> 00:36:17,475 BUT IT'S NO LESS TRUE ♪ DON'T THE LAST TIME 603 00:36:17,542 --> 00:36:32,423 COME TOO SOON?" ♪ ♪ ♪ 604 00:36:32,490 --> 00:36:45,603 COME TOO SOON?" ♪ ♪ ♪ 605 00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:56,147 ♪ THIS MAY BE THE LAST TIME 606 00:36:56,213 --> 00:37:08,960 LAST TIME I GET OUT OF BED ♪ PUT COFFEE ON AND TRY, 607 00:37:09,026 --> 00:37:16,334 IN YOUR WORDS ♪ "TO SHOW SOME INITIATIVE" 608 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,769 ♪ WE USED TO LAY AROUND HERE LAUGHING 609 00:37:18,836 --> 00:37:20,137 ♪ AT WHAT THESE FREAKS OUT THERE 610 00:37:20,204 --> 00:37:31,449 ♪ WERE TRYING TO PROVE WELL, WHAT'S WASTING TIME 611 00:37:31,515 --> 00:37:33,451 ♪ IF NOT THROWING IT AWAY ON WORK WHEN THE LAST TIME 612 00:37:33,517 --> 00:37:41,459 COMES SO SOON? ♪ MR. BLUE DIED IN MY ARMS, 613 00:37:41,525 --> 00:37:42,426 NOTHING THEY COULD DO ♪ DON'T THE LAST TIME 614 00:37:42,493 --> 00:37:53,471 COME TOO SOON? ♪ LOVE'S ALWAYS GONNA LEAVE YA 615 00:37:53,537 --> 00:38:01,479 NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY ♪ YOU ONLY KNOW WHAT IT IS ONCE 616 00:38:01,545 --> 00:38:16,427 IT'S GONE AWAY 617 00:38:16,494 --> 00:38:25,469 IT'S GONE AWAY 618 00:38:25,536 --> 00:38:37,448 ♪ ♪ ♪ 619 00:38:37,515 --> 00:38:41,452 ♪ THIS MAY BE THE LAST TIME THE LAST TIME 620 00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:55,232 ♪ I LAY HERE WITH YOU DO YOU SWEAR IT'S NOT THE CAT? 621 00:38:55,299 --> 00:39:01,472 ♪ YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT I'LL JUST MAKE DO 622 00:39:01,539 --> 00:39:05,509 ♪ BUT MAYBE IF HE'D GONE SOONER COULD'VE BROUGHT US BACK 623 00:39:05,576 --> 00:39:17,455 ♪ TOGETHER LAST JUNE WHEN THE LAST TIME 624 00:39:17,521 --> 00:39:24,128 ♪ WAS OUR LAST TIME IF ONLY THEN I KNEW 625 00:39:24,195 --> 00:39:25,730 ♪ THE LAST TIME WAS OUR LAST TIME 626 00:39:25,796 --> 00:39:29,467 ♪ WOULD'VE TOLD YOU THAT THE LAST TIME 627 00:39:29,533 --> 00:39:41,345 ♪ COMES TOO SOON ♪ ♪ ♪ 628 00:39:41,412 --> 00:39:43,547 ♪ ♪ ♪ WHEN THE LAST TIME 629 00:39:43,614 --> 00:39:45,416 ♪ WAS OUR LAST TIME SHOULD'VE TOLD YOU 630 00:39:45,483 --> 00:39:53,457 ♪ THAT THE LAST TIME COMES TOO SOON 631 00:39:53,524 --> 00:40:01,465 ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ 632 00:40:01,532 --> 00:40:09,440 ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ 633 00:40:09,507 --> 00:40:16,213 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) 634 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,750 FATHER JOHN MISTY, EVERYBODY! THAT'S IT FOR "THE LATE SHOW." 635 00:40:19,817 --> 00:40:22,319 TUNE IN TOMORROW WHEN MY GUEST WILL BE AMBASSADOR MARIE 636 00:40:22,386 --> 00:40:24,188 YOVANOVITCH. JAMES CORDON IS NEXT. 637 00:40:24,255 --> 00:40:25,022 GOOD NIGHT.