1 00:00:02,001 --> 00:00:02,902 >> IT IS THURSDAY, JANUARY 6th. 2 00:00:02,969 --> 00:00:04,938 IT HAS BEEN ONE YEAR, IF YOU CAN BELIEVE IT. 3 00:00:05,004 --> 00:00:07,073 >> ONE YEAR. ANNIVERSARY OF A 4 00:00:07,140 --> 00:00:11,277 VIOLENT ASSAULT ON THE CENTER OF AMERICA'S DEMOCRACY. 5 00:00:11,344 --> 00:00:26,226 ♪♪ 6 00:00:26,292 --> 00:00:41,174 ♪♪ 7 00:00:41,241 --> 00:00:46,246 ♪♪ 8 00:00:46,312 --> 00:01:01,194 ♪♪ 9 00:01:01,261 --> 00:01:06,266 ♪♪ 10 00:01:06,332 --> 00:01:21,214 ♪♪ 11 00:01:21,281 --> 00:01:26,286 ♪♪ 12 00:01:26,352 --> 00:01:41,234 ♪♪ 13 00:01:41,301 --> 00:01:46,306 ♪♪ 14 00:01:46,372 --> 00:02:01,254 ♪♪ 15 00:02:01,321 --> 00:02:02,422 ♪♪ 16 00:02:02,489 --> 00:02:07,927 >> Announcer: IT'S "THE LATE SHOW" WITH STEPHEN COLBERT! 17 00:02:07,994 --> 00:02:11,931 TONIGHT, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. PLUS STEPHEN WELCOMES JOHN 18 00:02:11,998 --> 00:02:21,941 DICKERSON AND COREY HAWKINS, FEATURING JON BATISTE AND "STAY 19 00:02:22,008 --> 00:02:25,512 HUMAN." AND NOW, LIVE ON TAPE FROM THE 20 00:02:25,578 --> 00:02:29,949 ED SULLIVAN THEATER IN NEW YORK CITY, IT'S STEPHEN COLBERT! 21 00:02:30,016 --> 00:02:37,991 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: HEY! 22 00:02:38,057 --> 00:02:49,235 THERE YOU GO! ( BAND PLAYING ) 23 00:02:49,302 --> 00:02:51,504 HEY! ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) 24 00:02:51,571 --> 00:02:57,944 COME ON! COME ON! 25 00:02:58,011 --> 00:03:00,380 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) ( AUDIENCE CHANTING STEPHEN ) 26 00:03:00,446 --> 00:03:03,249 >> Stephen: THANKS, EVERYBODY! PLEASE, HAVE A SEAT. 27 00:03:03,316 --> 00:03:09,556 WELCOME TO "THE LATE SHOW." I'M YOUR HOST STEPHEN COLBERT. 28 00:03:09,622 --> 00:03:10,623 AND IT IS -- ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) 29 00:03:10,690 --> 00:03:13,760 I AM SO HAPPY TO BE WITH Y'ALL TONIGHT. 30 00:03:13,826 --> 00:03:14,928 IT IS SO GOOD NOT TO BE ALONE TONIGHT BECAUSE IT'S THE 31 00:03:14,994 --> 00:03:17,931 ONE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE JANUARY 6th ATTACK ON OUR 32 00:03:17,997 --> 00:03:21,234 DEMOCRACY. IT'S IMPORTANT TO REFLECT ON A 33 00:03:21,301 --> 00:03:28,942 DAY LIKE THIS. THERE'S A REASON TEXAS MOTTO IS 34 00:03:29,008 --> 00:03:31,945 NOT WHAT'S AN ALAMO? ( LAUGHTER ) 35 00:03:32,011 --> 00:03:33,313 THE THING I REMEMBER FROM THAT DAY IS HOW SHOCKED I WAS AT THE 36 00:03:33,379 --> 00:03:42,956 GROTESQUE-NESS OF THIS TRAGEDY. THAT DAY, WE HAD WRITTEN A WHOLE 37 00:03:43,022 --> 00:03:45,525 MONOLOGUE ABOUT WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS GOING TO BE A REGULAR 38 00:03:45,592 --> 00:03:48,461 PROCEDURAL VOTE TO CERTIFY JOE BIDEN'S ELECTORAL WIN. 39 00:03:48,528 --> 00:03:52,966 AND I WISH WE HAD THE CHANCE TO DO THAT MONOLOGUE BECAUSE 40 00:03:53,032 --> 00:03:54,701 ANYONE WHO'S WORKED IN COMEDY KNOWS THERE'S NO BIGGER 41 00:03:54,767 --> 00:03:57,203 CROWD-PLEASER THAN PROCEDURAL CERTIFICATION JOKES. 42 00:03:57,270 --> 00:04:00,406 ( LAUGHTER ) WE HAD A LOT OF THEM. 43 00:04:00,473 --> 00:04:04,310 BACK THEN, WE WEREN'T IN THE THEATER, SO I WAS WORKING FROM 44 00:04:04,377 --> 00:04:13,953 HOME, IN MY HOME OFFICE, AND WE WERE MEETING IN A REWRITE ZOOM, 45 00:04:14,020 --> 00:04:15,121 AND IT WAS ABOUT 1:45. AND WHEN WE'RE IN THAT ZOOM, 46 00:04:15,188 --> 00:04:18,925 WE'RE COMPLETELY FOCUSED ON REWRITING THE SCRIPT. 47 00:04:18,992 --> 00:04:20,226 BUT WE STARTED TO GET SLACKT SLK BUT WE STARTED TO GET SLACKT SLK 48 00:04:20,293 --> 00:04:22,929 MESSAGES FROM MEMBERS OF MY STAFF WHO WERE WATCHING TWITTER 49 00:04:22,996 --> 00:04:24,263 VIDEOS OF THE CARNAGE. AND WE WERE LIKE, "DON'T 50 00:04:24,330 --> 00:04:27,934 BOTHER US, WE'RE REWRITING TONIGHT'S SCRIPT." 51 00:04:28,001 --> 00:04:30,703 AND THEY WERE LIKE, "NO, I THINK WE'RE WATCHING 52 00:04:30,770 --> 00:04:32,505 TONIGHT'S SCRIPT." SO, JUST ABOUT THE TIME THE 53 00:04:32,572 --> 00:04:39,946 CROWD ACTUALLY BREACHED THE WALLS, WE STOPPED WRITING FOR A 54 00:04:40,013 --> 00:04:42,015 MOMENT AND TURNED ON THE NEWS. AND ONE OF MY WRITERS, STEVE 55 00:04:42,081 --> 00:04:45,752 WALTIEN, TOOK A SCREENSHOT OF THE MOMENT I SAW WHAT WAS GOING 56 00:04:45,818 --> 00:04:50,023 ON. TAKE A LOOK. 57 00:04:50,089 --> 00:04:52,291 ( LAUGHTER ) THAT IS THE ACTUAL MOMENT THAT I 58 00:04:52,358 --> 00:04:55,328 SAW IT. THAT IS THE FACE OF A MAN 59 00:04:55,395 --> 00:04:59,332 WHOSE DRY JANUARY IS ABOUT TO GET VERY WET. 60 00:04:59,399 --> 00:05:00,366 ( LAUGHTER ) ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) 61 00:05:00,433 --> 00:05:02,602 TRUE STORY. >> Jon: A TRUE STORY. 62 00:05:02,669 --> 00:05:07,006 >> Stephen: THAT JOKE. THAT JOKE IS BASED ON A TRUE 63 00:05:07,073 --> 00:05:08,207 STORY. ( LAUGHTER ) 64 00:05:08,274 --> 00:05:10,610 WE IMMEDIATELY TORE UP THE SCRIPT, I DROVE INTO THE CITY 65 00:05:10,677 --> 00:05:18,017 WHILE WE FIGURED OUT WHAT THE HELL WAS GOING ON, AND, BY THE 66 00:05:18,084 --> 00:05:21,120 TIME I GOT HERE, MY PRODUCER CHRIS ASKED, "SHOULD WE BE 67 00:05:21,187 --> 00:05:22,288 LIVE TONIGHT?" I WAS SO OVERWHELMED, I SAID 68 00:05:22,355 --> 00:05:23,890 "I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. I'M GOING TO GO TO THE BATHROOM 69 00:05:23,956 --> 00:05:25,591 AND GET MY BEARINGS, AND WHEN I COME OUT, WHY DON'T YOU TELL ME 70 00:05:25,658 --> 00:05:28,261 WHAT WE'RE DOING." AND WHEN I CAME OUT, HE SAID, 71 00:05:28,327 --> 00:05:30,263 "WE'RE DOING A LIVE SHOW." AND I SAID, "THAT SOUNDS LIKE A 72 00:05:30,329 --> 00:05:33,666 GREAT IDEA." THEN, ABOUT HALF AN HOUR LATER, 73 00:05:33,733 --> 00:05:37,870 HE SAYS, "BY THE WAY, EVERY ADVERTISER HAS PULLED OUT 74 00:05:37,937 --> 00:05:40,273 SO YOU WILL BE LIVE, AND THE CAMERA WILL NEVER CUT AWAY 75 00:05:40,339 --> 00:05:49,048 FOR AN HOUR." AND I SAID -- FANTASTIC. 76 00:05:49,115 --> 00:05:50,483 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) BUT -- CAN I CHANGE IT? 77 00:05:50,550 --> 00:05:53,119 I CAN'T? I LOVE IT! 78 00:05:53,186 --> 00:05:54,454 BUT AT THE LAST MINUTE WE GOT NEW SPONSORS, SO I'D 79 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,024 LIKE TO SALUTE THE TRUE HEROES OF JANUARY 6, 2021-- 80 00:05:58,091 --> 00:06:03,896 CBS AD SALES. ( LAUGHTER ) 81 00:06:03,963 --> 00:06:07,233 I'M LOVING THEM. ONE PERSON WHO HAS NOT FORGOTTEN 82 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:11,904 THE SHOCK AND HORROR OF THAT DAY IS JOE BIDEN. 83 00:06:11,971 --> 00:06:14,640 PRESIDENT BIDEN WENT TO THE CAPITOL THIS MORNING TO MARK THE 84 00:06:14,707 --> 00:06:18,644 FIRST ANNIVERSARY, AND ASKED US ALL TO RELIVE JANUARY 6TH: 85 00:06:18,711 --> 00:06:22,648 >> CLOSE YOUR EYES. GO BACK TO THAT DAY. 86 00:06:22,715 --> 00:06:28,888 WHAT DO YOU SEE? >> STEPHEN: BOURBON. 87 00:06:28,955 --> 00:06:34,660 ( LAUGHTER ) THEN HE REMINDED US IN GRAPHIC 88 00:06:34,727 --> 00:06:38,464 DETAIL WHAT WE CAN NEVER FORGET. >> WE SAW WITH OUR OWN EYES, 89 00:06:38,531 --> 00:06:40,900 RIOTERS MENACE THESE HALLS, THREATENING THE LIFE OF THE 90 00:06:40,967 --> 00:06:46,005 SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE. LITERALLY ERECTING GALLOWS TO 91 00:06:46,072 --> 00:06:50,643 HANG THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 92 00:06:50,710 --> 00:06:52,912 DESTROYING PROPERTY. LITERALLY DEFECATING IN THE 93 00:06:52,979 --> 00:06:57,950 HALLWAYS. >> STEPHEN: DEFECATING? 94 00:06:58,017 --> 00:07:00,119 THAT'S A VERY DELICATE AND HIGH-MINDED WAY TO DESCRIBE 95 00:07:00,186 --> 00:07:04,490 MAGA MANIACS SMEARING POOP ON THE WALLS. 96 00:07:04,557 --> 00:07:06,659 "THESE IGNOBLE MISCREANTS ABSCONDED WITH MADAME SPEAKER'S 97 00:07:06,726 --> 00:07:10,663 ROSTRUM, SET ALIGHT THEIR CANNABIS CIGARILLOS, AND 98 00:07:10,730 --> 00:07:14,634 BESMIRCHED THESE HALLOWED CORRIDORS WITH THEIR HUMAN 99 00:07:14,700 --> 00:07:17,203 DETRITUS! THE FECAL MATTER HAD HIT THE 100 00:07:17,270 --> 00:07:22,642 OSCILLATOR!" ( LAUGHTER ) 101 00:07:22,708 --> 00:07:28,915 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) I SAY -- I SAY TO YOU, SIR! 102 00:07:28,981 --> 00:07:33,019 ( LAUGHTER ) THEN BIDEN TURNED HIS ATTENTION 103 00:07:33,085 --> 00:07:34,654 TO THE ACTIONS-- AND INACTIONS-- OF HIS PREDECESSOR DURING THE 104 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,825 RIOT: >> WHAT DID WE NOT SEE? 105 00:07:38,891 --> 00:07:46,265 WE DIDN'T SEE A FORMER PRESIDENT WHO HAD JUST RALLIED THE MOB TO 106 00:07:46,332 --> 00:07:50,636 ATTACK, SITTING IN A PRIVATE DINING ROOM OFF THE OVAL OFFICE 107 00:07:50,703 --> 00:07:52,905 IN THE WHITE HOUSE, WATCHING IT ALL ON TELEVISION, AND DOING 108 00:07:52,972 --> 00:07:58,544 NOTHING, FOR HOURS. >> STEPHEN: EXCUSE ME, SIR-- 109 00:07:58,611 --> 00:08:03,649 SINCE WHEN IS DOWNING A K.F. C. FAMILY BUCKET DOING "NOTHING?" 110 00:08:03,716 --> 00:08:04,917 ( LAUGHTER ) HE WAS WORKING HARD, AND HE HAS 111 00:08:04,984 --> 00:08:09,956 THE CHICKEN SWEATS TO PROVE IT. THEN JOE TOOK THE GLOVES OFF. 112 00:08:10,022 --> 00:08:14,660 >> THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAS 113 00:08:14,727 --> 00:08:20,800 CREATED AND SPREAD A WEB OF LIES ABOUT THE 2020 ELECTION. 114 00:08:20,867 --> 00:08:26,072 HE'S DONE SO BECAUSE HE VALUES POWER OVER PRINCIPLE; 115 00:08:26,138 --> 00:08:28,441 BECAUSE HE SEES HIS OWN INTEREST AS MORE IMPORTANT THAN HIS 116 00:08:28,507 --> 00:08:30,643 COUNTRY'S INTEREST AND AMERICA'S INTEREST; 117 00:08:30,710 --> 00:08:39,986 AND BECAUSE HIS BRUISED EGO MATTERS MORE TO HIM THAN OUR 118 00:08:40,052 --> 00:08:42,655 DEMOCRACY OR CONSTITUTION. HE CAN'T ACCEPT HE LOST 119 00:08:42,722 --> 00:08:45,858 EVEN THOUGH THAT IS WHAT 93 UNITED STATES SENATORS 120 00:08:45,925 --> 00:08:50,162 HIS OWN ATTORNEY GENERAL HIS OWN VICE PRESIDENT, 121 00:08:50,229 --> 00:08:54,634 GOVERNORS AND STATE OFFICIALS IN EVERY BATTLEGROUND STATE, 122 00:08:54,700 --> 00:08:59,672 HAVE ALL SAID. HE LOST. 123 00:08:59,739 --> 00:09:02,942 >> STEPHEN: HELL, YEAH! TELL IT LIKE IT IS! 124 00:09:03,009 --> 00:09:04,911 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) COME ON! 125 00:09:04,977 --> 00:09:08,247 SO SIMPLE! SO TRUE! 126 00:09:08,314 --> 00:09:11,183 THAT'S IT! I LOVED THAT SPEECH TODAY! 127 00:09:11,250 --> 00:09:16,656 TRULY A POWERFUL SPEECH! THAT'S THE JOE BIDEN I REMEMBER! 128 00:09:16,722 --> 00:09:22,895 ATLAS THE JOBS WE STOLE THIS ELECTION FOR -- I MEAN VOTED 129 00:09:22,962 --> 00:09:24,931 FOR! ( LAUGHTER ) 130 00:09:24,997 --> 00:09:32,171 >> Jon: AWE, SHUCKS. >> Stephen: I'VE SAID TOO 131 00:09:32,238 --> 00:09:33,105 MUCH. BIDEN FINISHED WITH A POWERFUL 132 00:09:33,172 --> 00:09:34,473 CALL TO ACTION: >> SO NOW, LET'S STEP UP. 133 00:09:34,540 --> 00:09:37,276 WRITE THE NEXT CHAPTER OF AMERICAN HISTORY, WHERE 134 00:09:37,343 --> 00:09:40,212 JANUARY 6TH MARKS, NOT THE END OF DEMOCRACY, BUT THE 135 00:09:40,279 --> 00:09:45,751 BEGINNING OF A RENAISSANCE OF LIBERTY AND FAIR PLAY. 136 00:09:45,818 --> 00:09:46,953 I DID NOT SEEK THIS FIGHT BROUGHT TO THIS CAPITOL ONE YEAR 137 00:09:47,019 --> 00:09:52,892 AGO TODAY-- BUT I WILL NOT SHRINK FROM IT, 138 00:09:52,959 --> 00:09:54,260 EITHER. >> STEPHEN: (AS BIDEN) 139 00:09:54,327 --> 00:09:58,798 "C'MON, I'LL FIGHT YOU. LEPRECHAUN-STYLE! 140 00:09:58,864 --> 00:10:07,606 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) COME ON! 141 00:10:07,673 --> 00:10:13,546 I TELL YA -- I TELL YA, NO -- SAY HELLO TO MY TWO FRIENDS, 142 00:10:13,612 --> 00:10:14,447 'LIBERTY' AND 'FAIR PLAY.' ( LAUGHTER ) 143 00:10:14,513 --> 00:10:18,150 I'M GOING BEAT THE DEFECATION OUT OF YA!" 144 00:10:18,217 --> 00:10:21,988 ( LAUGHTER ) PREDICTABLY, BIDEN'S SPEECH 145 00:10:22,054 --> 00:10:25,424 PROMPTED A RESPONSE FROM FORMER PRESIDENT DUBIOUS CAESAR. 146 00:10:25,491 --> 00:10:28,794 ( LAUGHTER ) IF YOU WATCH THE SHOW, YOU KNOW 147 00:10:28,861 --> 00:10:32,465 I NO LONGER DO AN IMPRESSION OF THAT DING-A- LING. 148 00:10:32,531 --> 00:10:34,166 NOT JUST BECAUSE I CAN'T STAND THE TASTE OF THAT MAN'S 149 00:10:34,233 --> 00:10:35,901 WORDS IN MY MOUTH, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S SOMEONE WHO MORE 150 00:10:35,968 --> 00:10:38,170 ACCURATELY EMBODIES HIS MENTAL CAPACITY: 151 00:10:38,237 --> 00:10:40,406 A SEVEN-YEAR-OLD. THAT'S WHY WE HIRED ONE TO READ 152 00:10:40,473 --> 00:10:47,713 THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S ACTUAL STATEMENT: 153 00:10:47,780 --> 00:10:50,449 >> BIDEN, WHO IS DESTROYING OUR NATION WITH INSANE POLICIES OF 154 00:10:50,516 --> 00:10:58,157 OPEN BORDERS, CORRUPT ELECTIONS, DISASTROUS ENERGY POLICIES, 155 00:10:58,224 --> 00:11:04,397 UNCONSTITUTIONAL MANDATES, AND DEVASTATING SCHOOL CLOSURES, 156 00:11:04,463 --> 00:11:10,970 USED MY NAME TODAY TO TRY TO FURTHER DIVIDE AMERICA. 157 00:11:11,037 --> 00:11:12,138 >> STEPHEN: NO, HE DIDN'T. HE DIDN'T USE YOUR NAME ONCE, 158 00:11:12,204 --> 00:11:13,472 YA' NIMROD. TAKE A LOOK. 159 00:11:13,539 --> 00:11:15,174 >> FORMER PRESIDENT. THE FORMER PRESIDENT. 160 00:11:15,241 --> 00:11:16,275 THE FORMER PRESIDENT. THE FORMER PRESIDENT. 161 00:11:16,342 --> 00:11:17,410 THE FORMER PRESIDENT. THE FORMER PRESIDENT. 162 00:11:17,476 --> 00:11:18,444 THE FORMER PRESIDENT. THE FORMER PRESIDENT. 163 00:11:18,511 --> 00:11:20,112 THE FORMER PRESIDENT. THE FORMER PRESIDENT. 164 00:11:20,179 --> 00:11:23,749 THE FORMER PRESIDENT. THE FORMER PRESIDENT. 165 00:11:23,816 --> 00:11:26,152 OUR FORMER PRESIDENT. THE FORMER PRESIDENT. 166 00:11:26,218 --> 00:11:30,356 HE'S NOT JUST THE FORMER PRESIDENT, HE'S THE DEFEATED 167 00:11:30,423 --> 00:11:34,660 FORMER PRESIDENT. ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) 168 00:11:34,727 --> 00:11:40,399 >> Jon: OH! >> Stephen: COLD BLOODED! 169 00:11:40,466 --> 00:11:46,439 >> Jon: COLD BLOODED! ( APPLAUSE ) 170 00:11:46,505 --> 00:11:50,109 >> Stephen: SO HE DIDN'T USE HIS NAME BUT BIDEN DID MAKE ONE 171 00:11:50,176 --> 00:11:58,217 DIRECT REFERENCE TO THE FORMER PRESIDENT -- 172 00:11:58,284 --> 00:11:59,151 >> NOT SEE? >> STEPHEN: THERE WERE SOME 173 00:11:59,218 --> 00:12:01,687 NOTABLE ABSENCES FROM THE CEREMONIES TODAY. 174 00:12:01,754 --> 00:12:04,390 DURING A MOVING MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR OFFICERS WHO LOST 175 00:12:04,457 --> 00:12:07,460 THEIR LIVES, THERE WERE ONLY TWO REPUBLICANS ON THE HOUSE FLOOR. 176 00:12:07,526 --> 00:12:10,162 THE OTHER REPUBLICAN LEGISLATORS CHOSE TO REENACT JANUARY 6TH BY 177 00:12:10,229 --> 00:12:14,733 HIDING IN FEAR. FORMER ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS 178 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,436 DID SHOW THEIR FACES ON "FOX NEWS," LIKE FORMER WHITE HOUSE 179 00:12:17,503 --> 00:12:20,473 CHIEF OF STAFF AND GUY WHO DILATED HIS PUPILS JUST FOR 180 00:12:20,539 --> 00:12:22,441 THE FREE OPTOMETRIST SHADES, MARK MEADOWS. 181 00:12:22,508 --> 00:12:26,512 MEADOWS WENT ON HIS BUDDY HANNITY'S SHOW, AND INSTEAD OF 182 00:12:26,579 --> 00:12:30,149 DISCUSSING THEIR NOW-PUBLIC PANTS-CRAPPING, TERRIFIED TEXT 183 00:12:30,216 --> 00:12:34,019 EXCHANGE FROM A YEAR BACK, MEADOWS COMPLAINED IN ADVANCE 184 00:12:34,086 --> 00:12:38,157 ABOUT HOW THE MEDIA WOULD COVER IT: 185 00:12:38,224 --> 00:12:40,392 >> YOU ARE RIGHT TO POINT OUT THAT TOMORROW IS GOING TO BE 186 00:12:40,459 --> 00:12:45,131 SPENT ON JANUARY 6TH. >> STEPHEN: KEEN ANALYSIS. 187 00:12:45,197 --> 00:12:46,699 MEADOWS WENT ON TO PREDICT THE NEXT DAY WOULD BE SPENT ON 188 00:12:46,765 --> 00:12:50,669 JANUARY 7, THE DAY AFTER MIGHT FOCUS ON JANUARY 8, AND BY THE 189 00:12:50,736 --> 00:12:56,342 WEEKEND-- WE COULD SEE NUMBERS AS HIGH AS 9 OR 10. 190 00:12:56,408 --> 00:13:02,148 ( LAUGHTER ) ( APPLAUSE ) 191 00:13:02,214 --> 00:13:06,152 KIDNEYS, DOC. KIDNEYS. 192 00:13:06,218 --> 00:13:18,864 THE JANUARY 6th SELECT COMMITTEE 193 00:13:18,931 --> 00:13:20,332 IS HARD AT WORK INVESTIGATING THE RIOT. 194 00:13:20,399 --> 00:13:21,600 YESTERDAY, THEY SPOKE TO FORMER WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY AND 195 00:13:21,667 --> 00:13:22,935 MURDEROUS ANNE KLEIN MANNEQUIN, STEPHANIE GRISHAM. 196 00:13:23,002 --> 00:13:24,270 AND TODAY, SHE TOLD CNN HOW SHE WAS HELPING THE COMMITTEE FLESH 197 00:13:24,336 --> 00:13:25,504 OUT THE DETAILS OF JANUARY 6TH. >> THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS 198 00:13:25,571 --> 00:13:26,505 THEY DIDN'T KNOW. THERE WERE THINGS THAT I WAS 199 00:13:26,572 --> 00:13:27,773 ABLE TO CONFIRM. AND I THINK THERE WERE THINGS 200 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,008 THAT I WAS ABLE TO KIND OF HELP PUT TOGETHER LIKE A PUZZLE. 201 00:13:29,074 --> 00:13:32,645 >> STEPHEN: YES, IT'S A PUZZLE. IN THIS CASE, SUDO -COUP. 202 00:13:32,711 --> 00:13:35,347 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) WE'VE GOT A GREAT SHOW FOR YOU 203 00:13:35,414 --> 00:13:39,552 TONIGHT. MY GUEST IS JOHN DICKERSON WITH 204 00:13:39,618 --> 00:13:41,887 CBS NEWS. STICK AROUND. 205 00:13:41,954 --> 00:13:42,454 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) ( BAND PLAYING ) 206 00:14:29,501 --> 00:14:31,303 EVERYBODY. GIVE IT UP FOR JON BATISTE AND 207 00:14:31,370 --> 00:14:34,273 "STAY HUMAN" RIGHT OVER THERE. ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) 208 00:14:34,340 --> 00:14:37,676 >> Jon: WHOO, WHOO, WHOO, WHOO, WHOO! 209 00:14:37,743 --> 00:14:43,916 >> Stephen: AND I GOTTA GIVE IT UP FOR THE MAN WHO SANG OUR 210 00:14:43,983 --> 00:14:49,188 COLD OPEN TONIGHT, LOUIS CATO. THAT WAS AMAZING, LOUIS. 211 00:14:49,255 --> 00:14:53,826 ANYBODY WANT TO SHOUT OUT THERE? FANTASTIC. 212 00:14:53,892 --> 00:14:56,328 >> Jon: YOU MOVED ME. >> Stephen: THANK YOU. 213 00:14:56,395 --> 00:14:59,832 I WANT TO TALK TO JOHN DICKERSON IN JUST A MOMENT. 214 00:14:59,898 --> 00:15:07,906 WE JUST FOUND OUT MOMENTS AGO OUR COLLEAGUE AT 12:30, JAMES 215 00:15:07,973 --> 00:15:09,141 CORDEN, JUST TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID. 216 00:15:09,208 --> 00:15:11,777 HE SAYS HE'S FEELING FINE. HE'S GOING TO BE OUT A FEW DAYS. 217 00:15:11,844 --> 00:15:18,817 HE WASN'T -- HE CAN'T WAIT TO SEE EVERYBODY SOON. 218 00:15:18,884 --> 00:15:22,388 IF OU NEED ME TO MAIL YOU FOOD, LET ME KNOW. 219 00:15:22,454 --> 00:15:26,058 SOMETHING THIN YOU CAN SLIDE UNDER THE DOOR BECAUSE HE'S 220 00:15:26,125 --> 00:15:28,627 GOING TO BE IN ISOLATION FOR A WHILE. 221 00:15:28,694 --> 00:15:32,931 SO NOTHING BUT PIZZA AND QUESADILLA. 222 00:15:32,998 --> 00:15:35,401 >> Jon: FLAT STUFF. PANCAKES. 223 00:15:35,467 --> 00:15:39,538 >> Stephen: FOLKS, MY FIRST GUEST IS A SENIOR 224 00:15:39,605 --> 00:15:41,006 NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT AND CHIEF POLITICAL ANALYST FOR 225 00:15:41,073 --> 00:15:42,107 CBS NEWS. PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO "THE LATE 226 00:15:42,174 --> 00:15:45,711 SHOW," JOHN DICKERSON. ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) 227 00:15:45,778 --> 00:15:57,756 ( BAND PLAYING ) 228 00:15:57,823 --> 00:15:59,591 >> Stephen: GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. 229 00:15:59,658 --> 00:16:01,827 >> IT'S GOOD TO BE SEEN. >> Stephen: THANKS FOR BEING 230 00:16:01,894 --> 00:16:07,900 HERE. I WAS TALKING IN THE MONOLOGUE, 231 00:16:07,966 --> 00:16:12,938 PULLING BACK THE CURTAIN ABOUT WHAT THAT DAY WAS LIKE FOR US 232 00:16:13,005 --> 00:16:15,808 JUST IN TERMS OF A PRODUCTION. ONE OF THE THINGS PEOPLE MAY NOT 233 00:16:15,874 --> 00:16:18,911 KNOW IS YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE MY GUEST ON JANUARY 6th TO 234 00:16:18,977 --> 00:16:22,314 TALK ABOUT THE PROCEDURE OF CERTIFYING THE BALLOTS. 235 00:16:22,381 --> 00:16:25,117 >> YOU JUST BOOKED ME A YEAR EARLY. 236 00:16:25,184 --> 00:16:35,394 >> Stephen: INSTEAD, WE HAD KLOBUCHAR AND WHO IS IT? 237 00:16:35,461 --> 00:16:36,895 >> KINZINGER. >> Stephen: FROM THEIR OFFICES 238 00:16:36,962 --> 00:16:40,165 AT THE CAPITOL WHERE THEY HAD JUST BEEN BARRICADED IN. 239 00:16:40,232 --> 00:16:43,469 I WAS DESCRIBING WHAT IT WAS LIKE EMOTIONALLY FOR ME. 240 00:16:43,535 --> 00:16:47,206 YOU'VE STUDIED WASHINGTON FOR YEARS, YOU'RE FROM A POLITICAL 241 00:16:47,272 --> 00:16:48,874 REPORTING FAMILY, SECOND GENERATION. 242 00:16:48,941 --> 00:16:53,212 YOU REPORTED ON CAPITOL HILL. WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION LIKE THAT 243 00:16:53,278 --> 00:16:57,383 DAY A YEAR AGO WHEN YOU SAW THIS HAPPENING? 244 00:16:57,449 --> 00:17:00,386 >> SO WE'RE AT HOME LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE BECAUSE IT'S 245 00:17:00,452 --> 00:17:03,455 COVID. I'M, TURNS OUT, IN THE BATHROOM 246 00:17:03,522 --> 00:17:09,695 BECAUSE ANNE, MY WIFE, IS USING THE OFFICE. 247 00:17:09,762 --> 00:17:12,564 I'M ON THE PHONE AND THEY SAID YOU HAVE TO TURN ON THE TV. 248 00:17:12,631 --> 00:17:16,735 THE FIRST THING THAT HIT ME IS HAVING COVERED THE HILL FOR, I 249 00:17:16,802 --> 00:17:19,471 GUESS, SIX YEARS, THOSE HALLWAYS ARE REALLY QUIET. 250 00:17:19,538 --> 00:17:22,374 YOU CAN HEAR THE SHOES CLICKING ON THE FLOOR. 251 00:17:22,441 --> 00:17:26,612 WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH THEM, BECAUSE THEY'RE OFTEN QUITE, 252 00:17:26,678 --> 00:17:29,148 EVEN WHEN FILLED WITH SCHOOL CHILDREN, YOU WALK THROUGH AND 253 00:17:29,214 --> 00:17:33,852 THINK ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH THERE, THE 254 00:17:33,919 --> 00:17:38,090 GREATS, THE CLOWNS, THE MASSAGE CITY, IT WELLS UP IN YOU. 255 00:17:38,157 --> 00:17:41,460 SO WHEN YOU SAW THE PICTURES, THEY WERE THE SOUNDS THAT DIDN'T 256 00:17:41,527 --> 00:17:45,230 BELONG. THE ROAR, THE BANGING, THE 257 00:17:45,297 --> 00:17:50,102 POUNDING ON THE DOORS. IT WAS LIKE FINGERS ON A 258 00:17:50,169 --> 00:17:53,305 BLACKBOARD. IT WAS SO DISSIDENT. 259 00:17:53,372 --> 00:17:57,910 TO SEE THE FOULING OF A PLACE I WORKED, MY MOM WORKED NOT ONLY 260 00:17:57,976 --> 00:18:03,348 AS A JOURNALIST BUT YEARS ON THE SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS 261 00:18:03,415 --> 00:18:05,918 COMMITTEE, THAT'S WHERE SHE WENT TO WORK EVERY DAY. 262 00:18:05,984 --> 00:18:08,554 TO FEEL AND SEE THAT WAS SO DISCONNECTING. 263 00:18:08,620 --> 00:18:11,256 I TWEETED SOMETHING THAT SAID THESE ARE THE STEPS WHERE 264 00:18:11,323 --> 00:18:13,492 PRESIDENT TRUMP TALKED ABOUT AMERICAN CARNAGE AND NOW WE'RE 265 00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:18,931 SEEING IT. ABOUT TWO MINUTES LATER, ADAM 266 00:18:18,997 --> 00:18:21,533 VERDUGO CALLED ME FROM THE EVENING NEWS AND SAID WE'RE 267 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,303 GOING ONLINE AND SUDDENLY I'M ON THE PHONE TALKING TO NORAH 268 00:18:24,369 --> 00:18:27,573 O'DONNELL AND WE'RE OFF. IN FACT, I DID A PIECE LIKE 269 00:18:27,639 --> 00:18:31,410 THAT, WHICH I HAD FORGOTTEN I DID TILL THE PRODUCER TWEETED IT 270 00:18:31,477 --> 00:18:35,380 TODAY, THAT WAS THE KIND OF BLUR OF THE DAY IT WAS IN NU. 271 00:18:35,447 --> 00:18:38,650 >> Stephen: AS I WAS SAYING, IT'S IMPORTANT TO MARK DAYS LIKE 272 00:18:38,717 --> 00:18:45,924 THIS, BUT IT'S A DIFFICULT DAY TO CAPTURE IN A SINGLE 273 00:18:45,991 --> 00:18:48,460 REMEMBRANCE. SO MUCH HAPPENED POLITICALLY, 274 00:18:48,527 --> 00:18:51,263 HISTORICALLY, EMOTIONALLY, BUT I THOUGHT THE PRESIDENT TODAY DID 275 00:18:51,330 --> 00:18:55,467 A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF LAYING OUT NOT ONLY A REMINDER OF WHAT LED 276 00:18:55,534 --> 00:18:59,605 TO THAT, WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED, BUT WHAT THE STAKES ARE FOR 277 00:18:59,671 --> 00:19:01,473 FORGETTING IT AND FOR NOT ADDRESSING IT. 278 00:19:01,540 --> 00:19:04,109 WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THE PRESIDENT'S SPEECH? 279 00:19:04,176 --> 00:19:10,516 >> WELL, IT REMINDED ME OF -- HE WAS FEELING HIS INNER HARRY 280 00:19:10,582 --> 00:19:13,218 TRUMAN. THEY USED TO SAY, GIVE 'EM HELL, 281 00:19:13,285 --> 00:19:14,887 HARRY. TRUMAN USED TO SAY, I TELL THEM 282 00:19:14,953 --> 00:19:18,757 TRUTH AND THEY THINK IT'S HELL. SO THE REACTION BIDEN GOT KIND 283 00:19:18,824 --> 00:19:22,561 OF REMINDED ME OF THAT. THIS HAS BEEN A LAYERED 284 00:19:22,628 --> 00:19:24,730 EXPERIENCE. THE MORE WE LEARN, WE LEARN NEW 285 00:19:24,796 --> 00:19:30,836 THINGS AND WE ASSESS THOSE, BUT THEN IT ALSO GIVES US A NEW VIEW 286 00:19:30,903 --> 00:19:35,274 OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THE PAST. THIS IS ONGOING BECAUSE -- THIS 287 00:19:35,340 --> 00:19:39,311 IS HISTORIC BECAUSE THE PERSON AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF AMERICAN 288 00:19:39,378 --> 00:19:43,015 POLITICS TOOK DIRECT AIM AT THE CENTER OF IT, WHICH IS PEACEFUL 289 00:19:43,081 --> 00:19:48,654 TRANSFER OF POWER, NOT JUST ON THE 6th BUT WHAT THE PRESIDENT 290 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,390 DID WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THE LEADER OF THE STATES. 291 00:19:51,456 --> 00:19:53,358 HE'S STILL THE LEADER OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. 292 00:19:53,425 --> 00:19:56,328 THIS IS STILL AN ONGOING QUESTION. 293 00:19:56,395 --> 00:19:59,498 THAT'S WHAT BIDEN WAS ADDRESSING, IT'S AN ANNIVERSARY 294 00:19:59,565 --> 00:20:05,771 OF AN EVENT BUT THE THREADS AND PARTS OF IT ARE VERY MUCH STILL 295 00:20:05,837 --> 00:20:07,873 WITH US TODAY. >> Stephen: THAT NIGHT IT 296 00:20:07,940 --> 00:20:11,944 LOOKED LIKE A SHOT REPUBLICAN LEADERS WOULD PART WAYS WITH THE 297 00:20:12,010 --> 00:20:15,781 PRESIDENT. >> WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT WHAT 298 00:20:15,847 --> 00:20:20,686 KEVIN McCARTHY, MITCH McCONNELL SAID,. 299 00:20:20,752 --> 00:20:24,957 >> Stephen: LINDSEY GRAHAM. IT'S AS EXCORIATING AS 300 00:20:25,023 --> 00:20:26,658 ANYTHING. I WAS READING TODAY PREPARED TO 301 00:20:26,725 --> 00:20:29,127 SAY WHAT THE REPUBLICANS SAID A YEAR AGO. 302 00:20:29,194 --> 00:20:33,765 MITCH McCONNELL SAID THE PRESIDENT LED TO A DOMESTIC 303 00:20:33,832 --> 00:20:41,506 TERROR ATTACK BY LYING TO THE MOB, THAT HE INCITED IT, KEVIN 304 00:20:41,573 --> 00:20:45,510 McCARTY SAID. THAT'S A JOB WHEN THE PRESIDENT 305 00:20:45,577 --> 00:20:51,984 INCITES RIOT AT THE CAPITOL. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU FORGET. 306 00:20:52,050 --> 00:20:53,986 >> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK. 307 00:20:54,052 --> 00:20:56,054 STICK AROUND, BACK WITH MORE JOHN DICKERSON, EVERYBODY. 308 00:21:09,001 --> 00:21:13,939 >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY! WE'RE BACK WITH CBS NEWS' JOHN 309 00:21:14,006 --> 00:21:16,008 DICKERSON. TODAY, YOU TWEETED THIS OUT -- 310 00:21:16,074 --> 00:21:19,511 YOU SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF BAIT TODAY. 311 00:21:19,578 --> 00:21:23,415 YOU ARE NOT A SHARK, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE IT. 312 00:21:23,482 --> 00:21:26,284 WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THAT? >> I WON'T TALK ABOUT THE 313 00:21:26,351 --> 00:21:29,321 SPECIFIC THING THAT CAUSED THAT BECAUSE THEN I WOULD BE GIVING 314 00:21:29,388 --> 00:21:31,757 ENERGY TO THE BAIT. >> Stephen: SURE. 315 00:21:31,823 --> 00:21:43,068 BUT IN POLITICS, WE'VE SEEN THIS A LONG TIME IN POLITICS -- 316 00:21:43,135 --> 00:21:47,005 I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT A YEAR AGO HE INCITED AN 317 00:21:47,072 --> 00:21:55,614 ACT OF TERRORISM -- SO I'LL SAY SOMETHING THAT'S FULL OUT WRONG 318 00:21:55,681 --> 00:22:00,585 FOR ATTENTION. ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THEY WILL FACT 319 00:22:00,652 --> 00:22:04,656 CHECK THIS TALKING ABOUT THE BAIT I THREW OUT INSTEAD OF 320 00:22:04,723 --> 00:22:08,093 FOCUSING ON WHAT THE DAY SHOULD BE ABOUT WHICH IS DID THE 321 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,796 CONTRIBUTORY THINGS THAT LED TO JANUARY 6th, ARE THEY STILL 322 00:22:10,862 --> 00:22:14,299 WITH US? WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF THEY 323 00:22:14,366 --> 00:22:19,938 STILL ARE AND WHAT'S THAT GOING TO MEAN FOR OUR DEMOCRACY? 324 00:22:20,005 --> 00:22:21,306 ( APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: LET'S GET INTO 325 00:22:21,373 --> 00:22:26,645 THAT A BIT BECAUSE IT BECAME CLEAR TO A LOT OF PEOPLE AND 326 00:22:26,712 --> 00:22:30,048 EVEN PEOPLE WHO DENIED IT WAS CLEAR TO THEM, IF YOU KNOW WHAT 327 00:22:30,115 --> 00:22:34,486 I MEAN, IT BECAME CLEAR TO A LOT OF PEOPLE SHORTLY AFTER THE 328 00:22:34,553 --> 00:22:38,757 FORMER PRESIDENT WENT OUT INTO THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS ROOM I 329 00:22:38,824 --> 00:22:42,494 BELIEVE ON THE 5th OF NOVEMBER AND SAID THEY'RE STEALING IT. 330 00:22:42,561 --> 00:22:48,066 THIS WAS BEFORE THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE WAS CALLED FOR BIDEN, 331 00:22:48,133 --> 00:22:50,135 AND IT WAS, AGAIN, STILL IN NOVEMBER. 332 00:22:50,202 --> 00:22:54,439 YOU SAID NOVEMBER 9th, SHORTLY THEREAFTER, YOU SAID IF THE 333 00:22:54,506 --> 00:22:55,941 FORMER PRESIDENT CONTINUED TO LIE ABOUT THE ELECTION RESULT 334 00:22:56,007 --> 00:23:00,178 AND THE REPUBLICANS ALLOWED HIM TO DO SO, I BELIEVESH WAS THE 335 00:23:00,245 --> 00:23:04,816 OTHER CONDITION IN THERE, WITHOUT REPUDIATING IT, THEY 336 00:23:04,883 --> 00:23:11,389 WOULD BE, QUOTE, BURNING THE SMALL-D DEMOCRATIC FURNITURE. 337 00:23:11,456 --> 00:23:16,094 A YEAR LATER, HOW SINGED IS THE FURNITURE OR IS IT A TOTAL LOSS 338 00:23:16,161 --> 00:23:22,367 AND WE NEED TO GO TO IKEA? >> WEN I SAID THAT, MY WIFE ANNE 339 00:23:22,434 --> 00:23:24,936 SAID WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY ABOUT 340 00:23:25,003 --> 00:23:27,572 THE DEMOCRATIC FURNITURE LONG BEFORE JANUARY 6th IS THERE 341 00:23:27,639 --> 00:23:30,442 WAS ENERGY IN THE AIR THAT WAS VERY BAD. 342 00:23:30,509 --> 00:23:31,777 A PRESIDENT'S OBLIGATION IS A JOB OF TRUST. 343 00:23:31,843 --> 00:23:32,844 YOU CAN'T GO SAYING THINGS B ARE WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE PROOF AND 344 00:23:32,911 --> 00:23:34,146 YOU REALLY CAN'T GO SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT THE CENTRAL 345 00:23:34,212 --> 00:23:35,080 QUESTION OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY WHICH IS THE PEACEFUL TRANSFER 346 00:23:35,147 --> 00:23:37,115 OF POWER. >> Stephen: AND AS YOU'VE SAID 347 00:23:46,024 --> 00:23:49,961 TO ME MANY TIMES, IS IT ROOSEVELT WHO SAID IT, 348 00:23:50,028 --> 00:23:52,697 ESSENTIALLY A MORAL OFFICE. >> RIGHT, SO HE'S BREAKING THAT 349 00:23:52,764 --> 00:23:54,499 JOB. THE OTHER PART OF THE PRESIDENCY 350 00:23:54,566 --> 00:23:56,535 IS YOU DON'T INFLAME, YOU TAMP THINGS DOWN. 351 00:23:56,601 --> 00:24:00,372 SO HE WAS INFLAMING AND BREAKING HIS TRUST OBLIGATION TO THE JOB. 352 00:24:00,438 --> 00:24:03,675 ONCE YOU DO THAT, YOU PUT NEGATIVE ENERGY INTO THE SYSTEM, 353 00:24:03,742 --> 00:24:07,312 AND SOMEBODY HAS TO STAND UP AND SAY, THIS IS WRONG, IT'S NOT 354 00:24:07,379 --> 00:24:09,080 TRUE, BECAUSE REPUBLICANS KNOW THE POWER HE HAS OVER THE BASE 355 00:24:09,147 --> 00:24:13,385 OF THE PARTY AND THAT THEY WILL BELIEVE HIM, IN PART BECAUSE, 356 00:24:13,451 --> 00:24:15,720 FOR FOUR YEARS, HE CHANGED THE VERY NATURE OF TRUTH. 357 00:24:15,787 --> 00:24:20,959 SALT I JUST FELT LIKE THIS AWFUS GOING TO HAPPEN AND I CHOSE THAT 358 00:24:21,026 --> 00:24:23,328 WEIRD METAPHOR. TURNS OUT, FURNITURE WAS BROKEN 359 00:24:23,395 --> 00:24:29,201 AND BUSTED AND, IN FACT, IN REALITY AND IN SYMBOLICALLY. 360 00:24:29,267 --> 00:24:32,337 WHERE ARE WE NOW? I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE 361 00:24:32,404 --> 00:24:34,773 EFFORT TO KIND OF FORGET JANUARY 6th FROM THE 362 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,843 PRESIDENT'S SUPPORTERS, TO TURN IT EVEN INTO A MARTYR'S DAY'S D 363 00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:40,245 RATHER THAN A CRIMINAL ACT OF TERRORISM, WHICH IS WHAT 364 00:24:40,312 --> 00:24:41,613 REPUBLICANS CALLED IT AT THE TIME. 365 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,851 >> Stephen: AND FOR SOME AMERICANS A SUCCESSFUL ATTEMPT 366 00:24:45,917 --> 00:24:49,654 BECAUSE 71% OF REPUBLICANS STILL BELIEVE, IN POLLS, THAT BIDEN 367 00:24:49,721 --> 00:24:53,258 WASN'T PROPERLY ELECTED AND THAT DAY A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF 368 00:24:53,325 --> 00:24:57,462 REPUBLICANS BELIEVE THAT THAT DAY WAS ACTUALLY AN F .B.I. FALSE 369 00:24:57,529 --> 00:24:59,497 FLAG OR ANTIFA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 370 00:24:59,564 --> 00:25:02,701 >> IF YOU GET PEOPLE TO BELIEVE THAT, THEY SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, 371 00:25:02,767 --> 00:25:05,737 WHY AREN'T YOU DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? 372 00:25:05,804 --> 00:25:08,573 SINCE YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING, WE'RE GONG TO GO OUR OWN WAY 373 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,743 AND DO SOMETHING VIOLENT BECAUSE THIS CAN'T BE ALLOWED TO STAND. 374 00:25:11,810 --> 00:25:14,546 >> Stephen: SO THE LIE ABOUT THE VIOLENCE LEADS POSSIBLY TO 375 00:25:14,613 --> 00:25:17,749 MORE VIOLENCE, THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT BIT OF FURNITURE TO BURN. 376 00:25:17,816 --> 00:25:20,919 >> IT FEELS LIKE THE SAME THING. IF YOU DON'T STAND UP AND SAY 377 00:25:20,986 --> 00:25:25,190 THIS IS A LIE AND DON'T BELIEVE THIS AND YOU'RE BEING MISLED, 378 00:25:25,257 --> 00:25:28,193 THEN YOU LEAVE PEOPLE TO THEIR OWN DEVICES. 379 00:25:28,260 --> 00:25:32,631 SOMETHING HAS BEEN SAID TODAY OFTEN WHICH IS, WELL, THE SYSTEM 380 00:25:32,697 --> 00:25:36,868 WORKED, IT HELPED. WELL, IT DID, BUT WHEN YOU USE A 381 00:25:36,935 --> 00:25:40,372 DEFIBRILLATOR ON SOMEONE WITH A HEART ATTACK, YOU DON'T SAY, 382 00:25:40,438 --> 00:25:47,078 EVERYTHING'S FINE, YOU CAN GO BACK TO SMOKING AND EATING FOUR 383 00:25:47,145 --> 00:25:48,980 CHEESEBURGERS ADAY. YOU SAY THE PATIENT HAS TO BE 384 00:25:49,047 --> 00:25:51,950 DEALT WITH. THE DEFIBRILLATOR WORKED. 385 00:25:52,017 --> 00:25:56,421 THE ATTEMPT TO OVERTHROW A FREE AND FAIR ELECTION DIDN'T HAPPEN 386 00:25:56,488 --> 00:25:58,890 BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE SYSTEM IS HEALTHY. 387 00:25:58,957 --> 00:25:59,891 >> Stephen: WE'LL TAKE A BREAK AND WHEN WE COME BACK, I'LL ASK 388 00:25:59,958 --> 00:26:01,893 JOHN HOW HISTORY MAY REMEMBER -- MIKE PENCE. 389 00:26:03,428 --> 00:26:03,929 I ALMOST FORGET HIS NAME. 390 00:26:13,972 --> 00:26:16,374 >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY! WE'RE BACK HERE. 391 00:26:16,441 --> 00:26:20,378 STAR OF STAGE AND SCREEN JOHN DICKERSON. 392 00:26:20,445 --> 00:26:24,249 THE LIE IS WORKING, TO A LARGE DEGREE, AS I SAID JUST A MOMENT 393 00:26:24,316 --> 00:26:25,250 AGO. WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S SO EASY 394 00:26:25,317 --> 00:26:29,921 FOR THEM TO LIE ABOUT JANUARY 6th TO THE BASE? 395 00:26:29,988 --> 00:26:33,892 >> WELL, THE TRUTH IS WORTH AVOIDING, WHICH IS THE TRUTH 396 00:26:33,959 --> 00:26:36,661 IS -- >> Stephen: THE TRUTH IS SO 397 00:26:36,728 --> 00:26:38,930 DAMNING THEY CAN'T GO NEAR IT. >> BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST, AS THE 398 00:26:38,997 --> 00:26:43,635 REPUBLICAN LEADER SAID A YEAR AGO ON THE SIXTH, THE PRESIDENT 399 00:26:43,702 --> 00:26:48,540 INCITED RIOT BY LYING TO THE MOB BUT HE'S LEADER OF THE PARTY. 400 00:26:48,606 --> 00:26:51,376 REPUBLICAN BASE WANT HIM TO BE PRESIDENT AGAIN, MEMBERS OF 401 00:26:51,443 --> 00:26:54,546 CONGRESS WOULD SAY THAT AND HE'S CREATED A MARKET WHERE PEOPLE 402 00:26:54,612 --> 00:26:58,049 HAVE TO BELIEVE THE BIG LIE OR PLAY FOOTSIE WITH IT IN ORDER TO 403 00:26:58,116 --> 00:27:01,353 RISE WITHIN THE PARTY. SO YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT 404 00:27:01,419 --> 00:27:02,554 THAT. >> Stephen: THEY'RE ALL 405 00:27:02,620 --> 00:27:05,724 IMPLICATED AT THIS POINT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CHENEY AND 406 00:27:05,790 --> 00:27:08,660 KINZINGER BECAUSE HE STABBED SOMEBODY AND THEY'VE HELPED HIM 407 00:27:08,727 --> 00:27:13,798 CLEAN THE KNIFE, SO THEY'RE ALL ACCOMPLICES AT THIS POINT. 408 00:27:13,865 --> 00:27:15,767 >> EITHER DIRECT ACCOMPLICES OR PLAYED WITH THE IDEA. 409 00:27:15,834 --> 00:27:19,170 THEY SAY, WELL, THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ELECTION IN 410 00:27:19,237 --> 00:27:21,506 2020. THAT'S LIKE SAYING SOMEBODY 411 00:27:21,573 --> 00:27:24,676 YELLS FIRE IN A THEATER WHEN THERE IS NO FIRE AND LOOKS AT 412 00:27:24,743 --> 00:27:28,646 ALL THE PEOPLE RUNNING OUT AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A 413 00:27:28,713 --> 00:27:31,249 STAMPEDE, WE SHOULD REALLY LOOK INTO THE FIRE, BUT THE FIRE WAS 414 00:27:31,316 --> 00:27:33,852 A TOTAL FICTION, AND THAT'S WHERE SOME PEOPLE HAVE LANDED, 415 00:27:33,918 --> 00:27:36,788 WHICH IS WE'RE GOING TO STUDY THIS FIRE BECAUSE ALL THESE 416 00:27:36,855 --> 00:27:40,291 PEOPLE STAMPEDED OUT, ALL THESE PEOPLE BELIEVE IT WAS STOLEN. 417 00:27:40,358 --> 00:27:43,828 WELL, THEY BELIEVE IT WAS STOLEN BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN LIED TO. 418 00:27:43,895 --> 00:27:51,936 >> Stephen: STEPHANIE GRISHAM SAID THAT SOME DOZEN -- I FORGET 419 00:27:52,003 --> 00:27:57,175 WHAT NUMBER SHE THREW OUT IF SHE DID -- A GROUP OF EX -TRUMP 420 00:27:57,242 --> 00:28:03,948 OFFICIALS WILL BE GETTING TOGETHER SOON TO STOP THE FORMER 421 00:28:04,015 --> 00:28:05,884 PRESIDENT. YEA? 422 00:28:05,950 --> 00:28:09,087 HOW MUCH STOCK CAN YOU PUT IN THAT BECAUSE THEY TRIED TO STOP 423 00:28:09,154 --> 00:28:12,891 HIM SO MANY TIMES IN THE PAST. >> THE ROAD IS LITTERED WITH 424 00:28:12,957 --> 00:28:15,894 GROUPS WHO TRIED TO STOP PRESIDENT TRUMP. 425 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:22,200 HE HAS A UNIQUE CONNECTION WITH HIS PARTY: SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE 426 00:28:22,267 --> 00:28:28,640 STOOD UP AND SAY HE HAS A UNIQUE CONNECTION, PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE 427 00:28:28,706 --> 00:28:34,412 IT AND WE KNOW BETTER THAN LET IT FESTER BECAUSE IT WILL 428 00:28:34,479 --> 00:28:39,918 EXPLODE. I THINK PAT BUCHANAN SAID 429 00:28:39,984 --> 00:28:45,523 WHENEVER THERE'S A MOVEMENT TO STOP X, BET ON X BECAUSE X IS 430 00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:48,359 GOING TO WIN. >> Stephen: THEY WANT TO STOP 431 00:28:48,426 --> 00:28:49,928 X BECAUSE HE HAS THE CLEAR ENERGY. 432 00:28:49,994 --> 00:28:52,897 >> HE HAS THE CLEAR ENERGY. ALSO FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP 433 00:28:52,964 --> 00:28:57,435 TAKES A LOT OVERENERGY FROM HIS ENEMIES, AS MANY POLITICIANS DO, 434 00:28:57,502 --> 00:29:03,641 WHICH IS, IN OTHER WORDS, LOOK -- AND THAT'S PART OF 435 00:29:03,708 --> 00:29:06,978 THE -- PRESIDENT BIDEN GAVE THIS PEPPERY SPEECH TODAY, BUT THERE 436 00:29:07,045 --> 00:29:11,549 WILL BE A LOT OF REPUBLICANS WHO CAN LOOK AWAY FROM THE 6th AND 437 00:29:11,616 --> 00:29:15,753 SAY HE'S REALLY BEING UNFAIR, HE'S TARRING THE WHOLE PARTY. 438 00:29:15,820 --> 00:29:18,156 YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THIS. SO THAT'S A WAY IN WHICH IT 439 00:29:18,223 --> 00:29:21,426 ENERGIZES THE PARTY AND KEEPS IT TOGETHER, AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO 440 00:29:21,493 --> 00:29:26,498 LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED ON THE 6th. 441 00:29:26,564 --> 00:29:33,304 AS KARL ROVE, THE POLITICAL STRATEGIST FOR PRESIDENT GEORGE 442 00:29:33,371 --> 00:29:36,841 BUSH, HE SAID THE BURDEN IS ON THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TO 443 00:29:36,908 --> 00:29:38,610 REPUDIATE WHAT HAPPENED ON THE 6th. 444 00:29:38,676 --> 00:29:41,546 IF THAT'S THE CASE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO SHARE THAT 445 00:29:41,613 --> 00:29:42,947 BURDEN. >> Stephen: HOW DO YOU THINK 446 00:29:43,014 --> 00:29:44,149 HISTORY IS GOING TO REMEMBER MIKE PENCE? 447 00:29:44,215 --> 00:29:47,986 AND AS A QUICK FOLLOW-UP, WHERE IS THAT GUY? 448 00:29:48,052 --> 00:29:51,589 >> WELL, HE'S TRYING TO FIND HIS WAY BACK INTO THE ROOM AND THE 449 00:29:51,656 --> 00:29:55,226 WEIRD THING IS GETTING BACK INTO THE ROOM REQUIRES KIND OF 450 00:29:55,293 --> 00:29:58,963 BELIEVING IN THE THING THAT HE STOOD UP AND DIDN'T DO, WHICH IS 451 00:29:59,030 --> 00:30:03,434 TO SAY -- AND BY THE WAY, THINK ABOUT THIS -- THE MIKE PENCE 452 00:30:03,501 --> 00:30:06,538 STORY IS SO CORRUGATED BECAUSE HERE IS A PERSON WHO IS MORE 453 00:30:06,604 --> 00:30:12,844 LOYAL TO DONALD TRUMP THAN ANYONE BECAUSE OF HE WAS VERY 454 00:30:12,911 --> 00:30:16,381 STRONG WITH EVANGELICALS AND HE BASICALLY SAID THIS GUY'S OKAY 455 00:30:16,447 --> 00:30:19,651 AND HE WAS WITH HIM EVERYWHERE ALONG THE LINE. 456 00:30:19,717 --> 00:30:22,053 THE PERSON WHO WAS MOST LOYAL TO HIM. 457 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,223 AND PRESIDENT TRUMP PUT A TARGET ON HIS BACK THE DAY HE KNEW AND 458 00:30:25,290 --> 00:30:29,427 HAD BEEN TOLD REPEATEDLY MIKE PENCE COULD DO NOTHING AND HE 459 00:30:29,494 --> 00:30:32,897 TOOK THE GUY WHO HAD BEEN THE MOST LOYAL AND SAID HERE'S A 460 00:30:32,964 --> 00:30:35,967 SITUATION THAT YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF AND THEN SUDDENLY PEOPLE ARE 461 00:30:36,034 --> 00:30:39,137 BREAKING IN AND YELLING HANG MIKE PENCE, AND HE CONTINUE TO 462 00:30:39,204 --> 00:30:41,773 DO IT. SO THAT'S THE MOST EXTRAORDINARY 463 00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:43,107 THING. MIKE PENCE SAID THAT'S JUST 464 00:30:43,174 --> 00:30:45,443 SOMETHING ABOUT WHICH WE DISAGREE, HE AND DONALD TRUMP. 465 00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:48,613 >> Stephen: ABOUT WHETHER MIKE PENCE SHOULD HANG BY THE NECK? 466 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,217 >> YEAH, YOU PUT IT THAT WAY, IT'S, LIKE, WE DISAGREE ABOUT, 467 00:30:52,283 --> 00:30:55,386 YOU KNOW, WHETHER CILANTRO IS GOOD. 468 00:30:55,453 --> 00:30:57,989 THAT'S THE THING ABOUT WHICH WE DISAGREED. 469 00:30:58,056 --> 00:31:00,558 THIS IS SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT BEYOND THAT. 470 00:31:00,625 --> 00:31:02,393 >> Stephen: JOHN, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. 471 00:31:02,460 --> 00:31:08,499 COME BACK ON A HAPPIER DAY. GOOD LUCK WITH DRY JANUARY. 472 00:31:08,566 --> 00:31:09,801 CBS NEWS JOHN DICKERSON, EVERYBODY. 473 00:31:09,867 --> 00:31:12,937 WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH ONE OF THE STARS OF THE STRATEGY "THE F 474 00:31:13,004 --> 00:31:14,138 MACBETH," COREY HAWKINS. 475 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,976 >> Stephen: HEY! WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY! 476 00:31:52,043 --> 00:31:56,981 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, YOU KNOW MY NEXT GUEST FROM THE WALKING 477 00:31:57,048 --> 00:31:59,917 DEAD, "STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON," AND "IN THE HEIGHTS." 478 00:31:59,984 --> 00:32:05,390 HE NOW STARS IN THE LATEST FILM ADAPTATION OF THE SCOTTISH PLAY. 479 00:32:05,456 --> 00:32:09,727 >> MY CHILDREN, TOO? WIFE, CHILDREN, SERVANTS, ALLAN 480 00:32:09,794 --> 00:32:17,568 THAT COULD BE FOUND. >> MY WIFE, KILLED, TOO. 481 00:32:17,635 --> 00:32:21,939 BE COMFORTED. LET'S MAKE OUR GREAT REVENGE -- 482 00:32:22,006 --> 00:32:33,551 >> HE HAS NO CHILDREN! ALL, NOT PRETTY ONES. 483 00:32:33,618 --> 00:32:39,590 >> DID YOU SAY ALL? ALL. 484 00:32:39,657 --> 00:32:47,732 BULL AWE MY PRETTY CHICKENS AND THEY FELL IN ONE FELL SWOOP. 485 00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:51,235 I MUST FEEL IT AS A MAN. >> Stephen: PLEASE WELCOME 486 00:32:51,302 --> 00:32:56,641 BACK TO "THE LATE SHOW," COREY HAWKINS! 487 00:32:56,708 --> 00:33:03,881 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) ( BAND PLAYING ) 488 00:33:03,948 --> 00:33:17,562 >> Stephen: NICE TO SEE YOU 489 00:33:17,628 --> 00:33:22,934 AGAIN. BEFORE WE GELT STARTED I CALLED 490 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,570 IT THE SCOTTISH PLAY. THERE'S A TRADITION NOT TO SAY 491 00:33:25,636 --> 00:33:32,944 THE NAME OF THAT PARTICULAR PLAY, IT'S BAD LUCK. 492 00:33:33,010 --> 00:33:35,146 ARE YOU SUPERSTITIOUS ABOUT THAT? 493 00:33:35,213 --> 00:33:39,951 >> I'M GOING TO BE HONEST. I'M ON THE FENCE A LITTLE BIT 494 00:33:40,017 --> 00:33:42,520 ABOUT IT. I UNDERSTAND THE TRADITION, THE 495 00:33:42,587 --> 00:33:45,990 CURSES AND ALL THAT, BUT I'M ALSO A VERY SPIRITUAL GUY AND I 496 00:33:46,057 --> 00:33:51,229 UNDERSTAND GOD, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, TO THERE'S THAT. 497 00:33:51,295 --> 00:33:55,967 I WAS WORKING ON A PLAY WITH LA TONYA RICHARDSON JACKSON, AND WE 498 00:33:56,033 --> 00:34:03,441 WERE ON A BREAK, AND I SAID IT IN THE THEATER, AND I JUMPED UP, 499 00:34:03,508 --> 00:34:09,280 AND SHE WAS LOOKING AT ME LIKE I WAS CRAZY, AND I RAN OUT OF THE 500 00:34:09,347 --> 00:34:12,350 THEATER AND STARTED SPINNING AROUND AND SPITTING OVER MY 501 00:34:12,417 --> 00:34:13,618 SHOULDER -- >> Stephen: IS THAT WHAT 502 00:34:13,684 --> 00:34:17,922 YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO? >> I GUESS SO, PEOPLE LOOK AT ME 503 00:34:17,989 --> 00:34:20,024 LIKE I'M CRAZY BUT IT'S NEW YORK. 504 00:34:20,091 --> 00:34:21,926 I WENT BACK IN AND LA TONYA WAS SHAKING HER HEAD AND I SAID, 505 00:34:21,993 --> 00:34:23,861 WHAT? SHE SAID, I DON'T PLAY THAT. 506 00:34:23,928 --> 00:34:27,498 CURSES LIKE THAT AND ALL THAT, SHE SAID, I'M COVERED. 507 00:34:27,565 --> 00:34:31,702 SHE SAID, GOD. I SAID, YES, MA'AM, YES, MA'AM. 508 00:34:31,769 --> 00:34:34,071 ( APPLAUSE ) I DON'T MIND SAYING IT. 509 00:34:34,138 --> 00:34:38,743 >> Stephen: MACBETH MACBETH MACBETH MACBETH. 510 00:34:38,810 --> 00:34:39,944 >> MACBETH. >> Stephen: HE'S UPSET, WHAT 511 00:34:40,011 --> 00:34:43,181 ARE YOU DOING? YOU'RE GOING TO GET US CANCELED! 512 00:34:43,247 --> 00:34:46,517 I INTERVIEWED YOUR CO-STAR DENZEL WASHINGTON A FEW WEEKS 513 00:34:46,584 --> 00:34:48,953 AGO ABOUT THIS FILM. >> YEAH. 514 00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:52,757 >> Stephen: AND AIM LONG -TIME FAN. 515 00:34:52,824 --> 00:34:59,964 VERY FEW PEOPLE STAR STRIKE ME, AND HE IS ONE OF THE FEW I GO 516 00:35:00,031 --> 00:35:03,801 THAT'S DENZEL ( BLEEP ) WASHINGTON RIGHT THERE. 517 00:35:03,868 --> 00:35:04,969 ( APPLAUSE ) WHAT'S IT LIKE TO SHARE THE 518 00:35:05,036 --> 00:35:08,339 STAGE OR THE SCREEN WITH HIM FOR THIS? 519 00:35:08,406 --> 00:35:13,244 >> IT'S AN HONOR. EVERY TIME I SEE HIM I'M LIKE 520 00:35:13,311 --> 00:35:16,314 THAT'S DENZEL WASHINGTON. BUT TO BE AS GRACIOUS AS HE IS 521 00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:20,918 NOT ONLY AS A MAN BUT IN HIS WORK AND, LIKE, TO LITERALLY SIT 522 00:35:20,985 --> 00:35:26,357 IN REHEARSAL WITH HIM FOR WEEKS AND WITH FRAN AND JOE COHEN, I 523 00:35:26,424 --> 00:35:29,961 MEAN, TO SIT WITH THEM AND WATCH THESE MASTERS CONTINUE TO 524 00:35:30,027 --> 00:35:31,662 CHALLENGE THEMSELVES AND RISE TO THE OCCASION. 525 00:35:31,729 --> 00:35:35,333 I MEAN, AS AN ARTIST, THAT'S THE DREAM, THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT, YOU 526 00:35:35,399 --> 00:35:38,202 KNOW, TO CONTINUE -- BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. 527 00:35:38,269 --> 00:35:41,506 THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. YOU KNOW, BUT THE FACT I GOT TO 528 00:35:41,572 --> 00:35:45,610 WATCH THEM DO THIS AND PLAY. >> Stephen: FOR THEM TO BE 529 00:35:45,676 --> 00:35:47,478 GENEROUS WITH THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH YOU. 530 00:35:47,545 --> 00:35:48,946 >> YEAH. >> Stephen: MIGHT GET A 531 00:35:49,013 --> 00:35:53,818 CONTACT GREATNESS. >> LISTEN, LET IT RUB OFF ON ME, 532 00:35:53,885 --> 00:35:57,221 PLEASE, I'LL TAKE IT. >> Stephen: NOT TO SPOIL A 533 00:35:57,288 --> 00:36:01,058 400-YEAR-OLD PLAY, BUT YOUR CHARACTER McDUFF KILLS HIS 534 00:36:01,125 --> 00:36:03,160 CHARACTER. >> WHY DID YOU HAVE TO TELL 535 00:36:03,227 --> 00:36:04,462 THEM? ( LAUGHTER ) 536 00:36:04,529 --> 00:36:12,904 >> Stephen: AND IT'S A GREAT SWORD FIGHT AND WE HAVE A STILL 537 00:36:12,970 --> 00:36:18,175 RIGHT HERE. THERE YOU ARE, McDUFF, THERE 538 00:36:18,242 --> 00:36:19,076 YOU ARE. WHAT WAS IT LIKE SWORD FIGHTING 539 00:36:19,143 --> 00:36:22,113 WITH DENZEL WASHINGTON? ARE YOU NERVOUS? 540 00:36:22,179 --> 00:36:25,950 >> AM I NERVOUS? OH, MAN, THE WHOLE TIME, I WAS 541 00:36:26,017 --> 00:36:28,886 THINKING DO NOT KILL DENZEL WASHINGTON, PLEASE, PLEASE! 542 00:36:28,953 --> 00:36:31,656 >> Stephen: HOW CLOSE DO YOU COME? 543 00:36:31,722 --> 00:36:38,930 I'VE NEVER REALLY DONE ANY REALLY PROPER STAGE COMBAT LIKE 544 00:36:38,996 --> 00:36:43,801 THAT WAN ACTUAL -- ARE THESE HEAVY SWORDS? 545 00:36:43,868 --> 00:36:45,937 >> THESE ARE REAL SWORDS AND WE'RE WORKING WITH AN INCREDIBLE 546 00:36:46,003 --> 00:36:49,941 STUNT TEAM THAT WORKED WITH JOE COHEN FOR YEARS, SO I TRUST 547 00:36:50,007 --> 00:36:52,944 MYSELF IN THEIR HANDS. I JUST DON'T TRUST THE SWORD IN 548 00:36:53,010 --> 00:36:56,213 MY HANDS. DENZEL AND I, HE'S WORKING ON -- 549 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,618 HE'S SHOOTING OTHER SCENES AND STUFF, AND WE DIDN'T GET A 550 00:37:00,685 --> 00:37:04,121 CHANCE TO WORK ON THAT FIGHT UNTIL THE DAY OF. 551 00:37:04,188 --> 00:37:08,659 SO WE HACKETTED IT SEPARATELY BUT BECAUSE HE'S A MASTER, WE 552 00:37:08,726 --> 00:37:12,430 BEAT THROUGH THE FIGHT, AND IT'S ON THIS TINY PARAPET THAT'S THIS 553 00:37:12,496 --> 00:37:17,101 WIDE AND WE'RE TALKING THE SWORDS AND I'M, LIKE, LORD, 554 00:37:17,168 --> 00:37:20,204 PLEASE DON'T LET THIS BE THE DAY AND DON'T LET ME BE THE ONE. 555 00:37:20,271 --> 00:37:25,376 >> Stephen: ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAD TO DO WAS ACT ON A HORSE 556 00:37:25,443 --> 00:37:30,047 AND I WAS CURIOUS WHETHER YOU HAD RIDDEN A HORSE BEFORE. 557 00:37:30,114 --> 00:37:31,716 ( SIGHS ) ( LAUGHTER ) 558 00:37:31,782 --> 00:37:33,918 >> THAT WAS THE FIRST DAY OF SHOOTING. 559 00:37:33,985 --> 00:37:37,121 TWO THINGS YOU SAY ACTORS DON'T FILM WITH, CHILDREN AND ANIMALS, 560 00:37:37,188 --> 00:37:42,159 SO THEY PUT ME ON A HORSE TO DO SHAKESPEARE ON THE FIRST DAY. 561 00:37:42,226 --> 00:37:45,329 WHICH WAS ALL GOOD. ME AND THIS HORSE HAD BEEN 562 00:37:45,396 --> 00:37:47,465 PRACTICING FOR A MONTH PRIOR TO THIS. 563 00:37:47,531 --> 00:37:51,402 WE HAD BEEN READY, WE BECAME CLOSE, I WAS TELEPATHICALLY 564 00:37:51,469 --> 00:37:55,706 TALKING TO THE DUDE. I NAMED HIM BUDDY, WE WERE IN 565 00:37:55,773 --> 00:37:59,677 LOCK STEP. ON THE DAY OF, DENZEL GRACIOUSLY 566 00:37:59,744 --> 00:38:03,414 CAME ON MY FIRST DAY OF SHOOTING AND FRANCES AND JOEL WAS THERE, 567 00:38:03,481 --> 00:38:08,552 EVERYBODY WAS READY, WE REHEARSED IT A THOUSAND TIMES. 568 00:38:08,619 --> 00:38:12,289 ACTION AND WE GET DOWN, HIT THE MARK, CAMERAS RIGHT THERE, AND 569 00:38:12,356 --> 00:38:18,329 AS SOON AS I START SPEAKING, THE HORSE JUST -- OFF CAMERA. 570 00:38:18,396 --> 00:38:22,466 AND I'M SITTING THERE, LIKE, OKAY, ALL RIGHT, HE'S NERVOUS, 571 00:38:22,533 --> 00:38:27,138 YOU KNOW. >> Stephen: THE HORSE IS 572 00:38:27,204 --> 00:38:30,908 NERVOUS. >> CLEARLY, EVEN THOUGH THE 573 00:38:30,975 --> 00:38:34,645 HORSE HAD PROBABLY DONE MORE FILMS THAN ALL OF US COMBINED. 574 00:38:34,712 --> 00:38:38,282 SO WE DO IT AGAIN, GET DOWN THERE, SAME THING. 575 00:38:38,349 --> 00:38:40,918 AS SOON AS I START SPEAKING -- ( CLICKING TONGUE ) 576 00:38:40,985 --> 00:38:45,156 >> I'M STARTING TO FREAK OUT A LITTLE BIT BUT TRYING TO HOLD IT 577 00:38:45,222 --> 00:38:51,262 TOGETHER, JOEL, DENZEL, FRAN, COME ON, DON'T MAKE ME LOOK BAD. 578 00:38:51,328 --> 00:38:53,531 LAST TIME WE DO IT, HE DOES IT AGAIN. 579 00:38:53,597 --> 00:38:56,634 >> Announcer: LOOK OVER TO THE HORSE WRANGLER, OLD GRUFF GUY 580 00:38:56,701 --> 00:38:58,602 HAS BEEN IN THE BUSINESS FOR YEARS. 581 00:38:58,669 --> 00:39:01,639 HE SAID, ARE YOU NERVOUS? I SAID, I'M NERVOUS, YOU KNOW. 582 00:39:01,706 --> 00:39:05,176 BUT THERE HERE UP, EVERYTHING LOOKED FINE BECAUSE THE CAMERA'S 583 00:39:05,242 --> 00:39:08,112 UP THERE. BT FROM HERE DOWN, I'M SO 584 00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:12,183 NERVOUS, HE SAID, YOUR FEET ARE LITERALLY KICKING THE HORSE 585 00:39:12,249 --> 00:39:13,851 EVERY TIME YOU -- >> Stephen: AND THE HORSE IS 586 00:39:13,918 --> 00:39:15,920 DOING WHAT YOU'RE TELLING HIM TO DO? 587 00:39:15,986 --> 00:39:17,688 >> HE'S DOING WHAT I'M TELLING HIM TO DO. 588 00:39:17,755 --> 00:39:21,358 I SAID, OH, MY GOSH. I FEEL LIKE THE HORSE IS, LIKE, 589 00:39:21,425 --> 00:39:26,030 ARE YOU NERVOUS? LITERALLY, IT WAS -- BUT, YOU 590 00:39:26,097 --> 00:39:29,767 KNOW, WE ALL LAUGHED ABOUT IT, IT WAS FUN AND WE GOT IT DONE. 591 00:39:29,834 --> 00:39:32,937 >> Stephen: GREAT TO SEE YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. 592 00:39:33,003 --> 00:39:40,010 "THE TRAGEDY OF MACBETH" IS IN THEATERS NOW AND ON APPLE TV+, 593 00:39:40,077 --> 00:39:41,345 JANUARY 14. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK, EVERYBODY! 594 00:39:49,987 --> 00:39:51,255 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: WELL, THAT'S IT FOR 595 00:39:51,322 --> 00:39:52,022 "THE LATE SHOW." Get well, James! 596 00:39:52,089 --> 00:39:53,090 GOOD NIGHT!