>> A MOMENT ABOUT TED CRUZ'S AT C-PAC FRIDAY PARTICULARLY THE
PART WHERE HE SPOKE LOUDLY ABOUT WHY 2022 AND 2024 ARE GOING TO
BE GREAT ELECTION YEARS.
>> AS WE STAND TOGETHER AND DEFEND LIBERTY, DEFEND THE
CONSTITUTION, DEFEND THE BILL OF RIGHTS OF EVERY AMERICAN, IN THE
IMMORTAL WORDS OF WILLIAM WALLACE, FREEDOM!
>> IT TURNS OUT, WILLIAM WALLACE WAS ALSO INSPIRED BY TED CRUZ.
>> SONS OF SCOTLAND, I AM WILLIAM WALLACE, AND IN THE
IMMORTAL WORDS OF TED CRUZ, THEY CAN CALL OUR WIVES UGLY, AND
THEY CAN SAY OUR FATHERS MURDERED J.F.K., BUT WE WILL
ALWAYS REMAIN LAP DOGS!
( CHEERING ) OH, AND INSTEAD OF FIGHTING THE
BRITISH, LET'S ALL ESCAPE TO CANCUN AND BLAME IT ON OUR
DAUGHTER!
>> Announcer: IT'S "A LATE SHOW" WITH STEPHEN COLBERT.
TONIGHT,'S GLOBE TROTTING.
PLUS STEPHEN WELCOMES ANDY SAMBERG AND CLARISSA WARD,
FEATURING JON BATISTE AND "STAY HUMAN."
AND NOW LIVE ON TAPE FROM THE ED SULLIVAN THEATER OFFICE BUILDING
IN NEW YORK CITY, IT'S STEPHEN COLBERT!
>> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY!
WELCOME BACK TO "A LATE SHOW."
I'M YOUR HOST STEPHEN COLBERT.
WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE YOU.
AS ISAID, WELCOME BACK.
A WEEKEND IS TOO LONG TO BE AWAY FROM YOU.
WE'RE GOING TO KICK RIGHT OFF WITH THE ONLY STORY THAT MATTERS
TONIGHT, AND THAT'S WHAT'S ON TV NEXT SUNDAY.
BECAUSE MY CBS COLLEAGUE OPRAH WINFREY HAS RELEASED A TEASER OF
NEXT WEEK'S BLOCKBUSTER INTERVIEW WITH PRINCE HARRY AND
MEGHAN MARKLE.
OH, MY GOD.
I CAN'T BELIEVE ACTUAL ROYALTY IS GOING TO TALK TO HARRY AND
MEGHAN.
MR. AND MRS. SUSSEX ARE UNDENIABLY EVERYONE'S FAVORITE
ROYALS.
RIGHT AFTER THE QUEEN, KATE MIDDLETON, AND THE DUKE OF
HASTINGS FROM THE WAIST DOWN.
MMM!
GOD, I HOPE THAT'S A BLUR.
HE SHOULD SEE A DOCTOR.
THIS INTERVIEW IS ALL ANYONE CAN TALK ABOUT.
EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT, BECAUSE THE SHOW
WON'T AIR UNTIL SUNDAY 8:00 P.M.
EASTERN, 7:00 CENTRAL ON YOUR LOCAL CBS STATION.
SMOOTH.
( LAUGHTER ) BUT STILL, THE ANTICIPATION IS
WILD.
FOR 24 HOURS, THIS INTERVIEW WAS THE TOP OF "THE DRUDGE REPORT."
NORMALLY, TO MAKE IT THAT HIGH ON "DRUDGE," YOU GOT TO BE AN AD
PROMISING ONE WEIRD TRICK TO SHRINK YOUR ENLARGED PROSTATE.
OR A TACTICAL VEST... FOR YOUR ENLARGED PROSTATE.
WHAT DID THEY TALK ABOUT?
FROM THE TEASER, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO TELL:
>> WERE YOU SILENT OR WERE YOU SILENCED?
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO EVERYBODY THAT THERE IS NO
SUBJECT THAT'S OFF LIMITS.
>> YOU'VE SAID SOME PRETTY SHOCKING THINGS HERE.
>> WAIT, HOLD-- HOLD UP, WAIT A MINUTE.
>> STEPHEN: WOW, WHATEVER THEY SAID, AND IT IS UNKNOWABLE, IT
STUNNED OPRAH.
IT'S EITHER SOME REALLY JUICY DISH, OR SHE ASKED FOR SPARKLING
WATER AND THEY BROUGHT HER STILL.
BUT YOU HEARD HER: NO SUBJECT WAS OFF LIMITS.
WHICH I HOPE MEANS THE FIRST HOUR IS HOT GOSS ON THE CAST OF
"SUITS."
IS GABRIEL MACHT A DIVA?
ALSO, WHO IS GABRIEL MACHT?
I HAVEN'T SEEN THE SHOW.
HEAR GOOD THINGS.
WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON?
WHAT DO WE HAVE?
OH, WE HAVE THE THING.
C-PAC.
THIS WEEKEND WAS THE ANNUAL CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL ACTION
CONFERENCE, BILLED AS "THE LARGEST AND MOST INFLUENTIAL
GATHERING OF CONSERVATIVES IN THE WORLD."
THAT'S IF YOU DON'T COUNT THEIR LAST GATHERING.
THIS WEEKEND'S LINEUP INCLUDED A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO SPREAD THE
BIG LIE THAT LED TO THE INSURRECTION, LIKE TEXAS SENATOR
TED CRUZ, MISSOURI SENATOR JOSH HAWLEY, AND ARIZONA
REPRESENTATIVE PAUL GOSAR.
IT WAS A MURDERER'S ROW OF PEOPLE WHO ALMOST GOT MIKE PENCE
MURDERED.
BEFORE THE SPEAKERS EVEN OPENED THEIR MOUTHS, CPAC GOT OFF TO A
ROUGH START, BECAUSE EAGLE-EYED TWITTER USERS POINTED OUT THAT
THE CONVENTION STAGE WAS IN THE SHAPE OF AN ODAL RUNE, WHICH IS
A SYMBOL USED ON SOME NAZI UNIFORMS.
OKAY, HOW MUCH RESEMBLANCE ARE WE TALKING HERE?
THIS IS THE SHAPE OF THE STAGE, AND HERE IS THE S.S. UNIFORM
WITH THE ODAL RUNE-- HOLY HIMMLER!
NOW, SOME PEOPLE SAY THEY DON'T SEE IT, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT
THEM SIDE BY SIDE, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO "NAZI" IT.
FASCIST SYMBOLISM ASIDE, ONE OF THE STUPIDEST MOMENTS OF THE
ENTIRE STUPID WEEKEND CAME FROM TEXAS SENATOR AND
WATER-LOGGED CORPSE OF THE NOTRE DAME LEPRECHAUN, TED CRUZ.
CRUZ CAREFULLY EXPLAINED THE STAKES OF OUR NATIONAL CONFLICT
WITH AN EASY TO FOLLOW ANALOGY.
>> THE MEDIA HERE LOOKS AT THE MEN AND WOMEN GATHERED HERE, AT
THE YOUNG PEOPLE GATHERED HERE, AS DANGEROUS RADICALS.
THIS IS THE REBEL ALLIANCE AND VADER AND THE EMPEROR, AND LET'S
BE CLEAR, THEY'RE NOT YOUR FATHER, ARE TERRIFIED OF THE
REBELS WHO ARE HERE.
WE AREN'T THE BORG ENFORCING, OKAY, I MAY HAVE COMMITTED A
CARDINAL SIN, MIXING "STAR WARS" AND "STAR TREK."
NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO CROSS THE STREAMS AND
THE STAY-PUFT MARSHMALLOW MAN IS GOING TO COME.
>> STEPHEN: (AS CRUZ) "STAY WITH ME HERE... WE'RE
DOCTOR WHO, BUT NOT THE LADY ONE, AND WE'VE GOT ALL THE
INFINITY STONES EXCEPT FOR THE SORCERER'S STONE WHICH IS STILL
AT HOGWARTS IN THAT WARDROBE WITH THE WITCH AND THE LION, WHO
IS NOT.
MY.
DAD."
CRUZ WRAPPED UP HIS SPEECH, MAKING ONE THING CLEAR: HE KNOWS
EVEN MORE MOVIE REFERENCES: >> IN THE IMMORTAL WORDS OF
WILLIAM WALLACE, "FREEDOM!" >> STEPHEN: CONSIDERING THE
SHAPE OF THAT STAGE, I BET HE WASN'T THE ONLY PERSON AT CPAC
QUOTING MEL GIBSON.
THE HEADLINER OF THE WEEKEND WAS THE FORMER PRESIDENT.
HIS SPEECH WAS PRETTY LIGHT ON SUBSTANCE AND ENERGY, BUT THERE
WAS ONE MAJOR REVELATION: HE TOLD THE AUDIENCE THAT HE WOULD
NOT START A THIRD PARTY.
OF COURSE HE ISN'T GOING TO START A NEW POLITICAL PARTY.
HE ALREADY OWNS ONE!
THESE PEOPLE WORSHIP THE GROUND HE WALKS ON.
LITERALLY.
THE BIGGEST ATTRACTION AT CPAC WAS THE GIANT GOLDEN STATUE OF
HIM.
NOTHING SAYS THE PARTY OF CHRISTIAN VALUES LIKE
WORSHIPPING A GOLDEN IDOL.
AND IT'S AN OLD TESTAMENT TWO-FER, 'CAUSE HE'LL ALSO COVET
YOUR WIFE, NEIGHBOR.
NOW, HE SAID A LOT OF THINGS AND SOME OF IT WAS STUPID, AND THE
REST WAS DANGEROUS.
BUT I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY ANY OF THE CLIPS, BECAUSE THE COUNTRY
NEEDS TO MOVE ON AND, FRANKLY, I DON'T CARE ANYMORE.
>> STEPHEN... STEPHEN...
>> Stephen: JIMMY, WHAT'S THAT?
>> COME ON, STEPHEN, IT'S ME, YOUR FAVORITE FORMER PRESIDENT
WHOSE NAME YOU WON'T SAY.
>> STEPHEN: PLEASE LEAVE.
>> DON'T YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ME?
>> Stephen: NO.
COME ON.
I SAID "FRAGRANT" WHEN I MEANT TO SAY, "FLAGRANT."
JUST PLAY THAT ONE.
IT'LL BE HILARIOUS.
>> STEPHEN: I'M GOOD.
>> BUT YOU USED TO TELL JOKES ABOUT ME ALL THE TIME, REMEMBER?
MY NAKED CORRUPTION, MY GROSS INCOMPETENCE, MY TINY LITTLE
HANDS...
AND DON'T FORGET MY RIDICULOUS HAIR.
IT LOOKS LIKE A MERKIN FELL INTO--
>> STEPHEN: A COTTON CANDY MACHINE.
YEAH, I REMEMBER.
BUT YOU'RE NOT IN POWER ANYMORE, SO JUST TAKE A HIKE.
>> STEPHEN: BUT I SPOKE AT CPAC YESTERDAY!
IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT, NEWSWORTHY EVENT!
I'M STILL SO RELEVANT.
IF PEOPLE DON'T TALK ABOUT ME, I'LL MELT.
I'M MELTING.
OR MAYBE THAT'S JUST MY BRONZER.
GOODBYE NOT CRUEL ENOUGH WORLD.
PSYCH!
I'M NEVER LEAVING!
SEE YOU IN 2024!
>> Stephen: GO, GET OUT!
GET OUT!
>> AAAHHH!
>> Stephen: SPEAKING OF GOLDEN IDOLS, LAST
NIGHT THEY HELD THE GOLDEN GLOBES.
THIS YEAR THE GLOBES WERE HOSTED BY TINA FEY AND AMY POEHLER ON
OPPOSITE COASTS, AND MOST OF THE CELEBS JOINED IN VIA ZOOM.
ALL THE GLAMOUR WAS FROM THE WAIST UP, SO WE HAD NO IDEA IF
THE DRAPES MATCHED THE RED CARPET.
THIS YEAR'S LOOKS RAN THE GAMUT FROM CYNTHIA ERIVO IN VALENTINO
AND NICOLE KIDMAN IN LOUIS VUITTON ALL THE WAY TO JASON
SUDEIKIS IN TIE-DYE HOODIE.
YOU CAN SHOP JASON SUDEKIS'S LOOK BY DIGGING INTO THE BOTTOM
OF YOUR HAMPER AND THEN TAKING THAT EDIBLE YOU'VE BEEN SAVING
FOR AN EMERGENCY.
GOOD FOR YOU, JASON.
KEEPING IT REAL.
THIS YEAR'S GLOBES CAME UNDER A LOT OF SCRUTINY AFTER A FORMER
PRESIDENT OF THE HOLLYWOOD FOREIGN PRESS ASSOCIATION
ADMITTED THE GROUP HASN'T HAD ANY BLACK MEMBERS IN TWO
DECADES.
EXPLAINS WHY IN PAST YEARS, THEY'VE GIVEN GOLDEN GLOBES TO
"GREEN BOOK" AND HELLMAN'S.
LAST NIGHT THE GLOBES TRIED TO REMEDY THE PROBLEM BY PUTTING AS
MANY BLACK PRESENTERS ON SCREEN AS POSSIBLE.
A BOLD EFFORT, BUT IT KIND OF LOOKED LIKE AN ALL WHITE HIGH
SCHOOL TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A YEARBOOK THAT LOOKED DIVERSE.
"HEY MALIK, I KNOW YOU'RE ACTUALLY NOT IN FRENCH CLUB, BUT
PARLEZ VOUS DIVERSITE?
GRAB A BAGUETTE AND GET IN HERE."
THAT JOKE BY OUR WRITER JOHN THIBODEAUX.
JOHN, YOU WANT TO GET IN HERE?
>> NOPE.
>> STEPHEN: OKAY!
BUT THE BIG NEWS OF THE NIGHT WAS WHEN THE GOLDEN GLOBE FOR
BEST ORIGINAL SCORE WAS WON BY OUR FRIEND, MR. JON BATISTE.
COME ON!
FOR HIS WORK ON THE SOUNDTRACK OF "SOUL."
I'M SO HAPPY FOR JON.
I'M SO GRATEFUL TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH HIM EVERY DAY, BECAUSE
A MAN OF HIS TALENT CAN WORK ANYWHERE... EXCEPT, EVIDENTLY,
THE HOLLYWOOD FOREIGN PRESS.
ONE PERSON NOT ENJOYING THE SPOTLIGHT RIGHT NOW IS NEW YORK
GOVERNOR AND SHAR PEI WHEN YOU BRING HOME THE NEW BABY, ANDREW
CUOMO.
FIRST, THE GOVERNOR WAS ARC CAUSED OF
COVERING UP COVID DEATHS IN NURSING HOMES, NOW TWO FORMER
AIDES ACCUSED HIM OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT IN THE WORKPLACE.
THE FIRST, A FORMER STATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICIAL,
LINDSEY BOYLAN, SAID CUOMO HARASSED HER ON SEVERAL
OCCASIONS FROM 2016-2018, AT ONE POINT GIVING HER AN UNSOLICITED
KISS ON THE LIPS AT HIS MANHATTAN OFFICE.
SHE ALSO SAID ON A FLIGHT BACK ON A FLIGHT TO NEW YORK THE
GOVERNOR SAID LET'S PLAY STRIP POKER.
MY FIRST REACTION WAS: THAT IS ENTIRELY INAPPROPRIATE.
MY SECOND REACTION WAS: STRIP POKER ON A PLANE?
HOW LIMBER IS HE?
"ALL RIGHT, I GOT A PAIR OF TWOS.
THE REST IS SLOP.
GOTTA TAKE OFF THESE PANTS.
EXCUSE ME, COULD YOU MOVE YOUR SEAT-BACK UP?
MY BELT'S GETTING CAUGHT IN THE MAGAZINE POCKET."
BUT THEN, I FOUND OUT IT WAS A PRIVATE JET.
OR IN THIS CASE, "PRIVATES."
CUOMO'S OFFICE DENIED BOYLAN'S ACCUSATIONS, BUT THEN THE
GOVERNOR WAS ALSO ACCUSED OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT BY HIS FORMER
EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT AND HEALTH POLICY ADVISER, CHARLOTTE
BENNETT.
BENNETT HAD JUST TURNED 25 LAST YEAR WHEN CUOMO ASKED HER IN HIS
OFFICE IF SHE "HAD EVER BEEN WITH AN OLDER MAN."
(AS CUOMO) "REALLY OLD, BUT STILL KIND OF
CUT.
MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A NIPPLE RING?
RINGING ANY BELLS, THAT MIGHT BE HANGING FROM M NIPPLE RING?"
THIS TIME, CUOMO APOLOGIZED, BUT GAVE THIS EXCUSE:
"AT WORK SOMETIMES I THINK I AM BEING PLAYFUL AND MAKE JOKES
THAT I THINK ARE FUNNY."
I KNOW THAT ONE.
"KNOCK-KNOCK."
"WHO'S THERE?" "AN OLDER MAN."
"AN OLDER MAN WHO?" "AN OLDER MAN WHO IS NOT TOO OLD
TO HAVE SEX WITH!" BENNETT ALSO SAYS THAT AS THEY
WERE DISCUSSING HER 25TH BIRTHDAY, CUOMO SAID THAT HE
FELT "HE'S FINE WITH ANYONE ABOVE THE AGE OF 22."
WOW, HER OFFICE BIRTHDAY PARTY MUST HAVE BEEN AWKWARD:
"HAPPY THIRD YEAR I'M WILLING TO DATE YOU!"
BENNETT BELIEVES THE GOVERNOR WAS GROOMING HER BY TRYING TO
GET CLOSE, REMEMBERING THAT AT ONE POINT THEY BONDED OVER THE
FACT THAT SHE HAD PLAYED MIDDLE-SCHOOL SOCCER AGAINST ONE
OF HIS DAUGHTERS.
I HOPE HE'S NOT ONE OF THOSE NIGHTMARE SPORTS DADS WHO'S
ALWAYS YELLING, "HEY, REF!
HOW OLD IS THAT ONE?" NOW, PEOPLE ARE CALLING FOR AN
INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION, LIKE NEW YORK MAYOR BILL DEBLASIO,
SEEN HERE PROVING NOT ALL SUPER HEROES WEAR CAPES, OR ARE SUPER,
OR ARE HEROES.
DEBLASIO AND CUOMO ARE FRIENDLY RIVALS, MUCH THE SAME WAY A
COBRA AND A MONGOOSE LIKE TO KID EACH OTHER.
WHICH MAY BE WHY DEBLASIO SEEMED SO QUICK TO CALL CUOMO'S ALLEGED
BEHAVIOR "JUST DISGUSTING, CREEPY.
WHEN I HEARD IT, IT SICKENED ME, IT DISGUSTED ME, BUT IT ALSO
SOUNDED LIKE, YEAH, I COULD BELIEVE THAT HAPPENING, TOO.
AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED A FULL INVESTIGATION."
ADDING, "SOMEONE ELSE IS HATED MORE THAN ME!
YES!
KEEP INVESTIGATING.
I'M FREE!
SUCK IT, ANDY!" WE'VE GOT A GREAT SHOW FOR YOU
TONIGHT.
MY GUESTS ARE ANDY SAMBERG AND CNN'S CLARISSA WARD.
BUT WHEN WE RETURN, IS BEER GOOD FOR YOU NOW?
THE ANSWER MAY SURPRISE YOU, IF YOU THOUGHT YES.
♪♪♪ >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY!
WELCOME BACK TO "A LATE SHOW" WITH STEPHEN COLBERT AND WITH
THE MAN HIMSELF, THE MAN OF THE HOUR, THE RECIPIENT OF LAST
NIGHT'S GOLDEN GLOBE, MR. JON BATISTE, CONGRATULATIONS, MY
FRIEND!
>> Jon: WHOO!
OH, I'M FEELING GOOD!
I'M STILL IN THE VIBE!
HA HA, YEAH!
>> Stephen: OKAY, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS HERE.
A, HOW DOES IT FEEL?
DID YOU TALK WITH YOUR CO-RECIPIENTS MR. TRET RESNER
AND -- >> Jon: ATTICUS ROSS.
WE WERE JUST ON THE PHONE BECAUSE WE WERE LAUGHING AT THE
PRONUNCIATION.
>> Stephen: INSTEAD OF SOUL, TRACY MORGAN SAID SOWL.
I THOUGHT, DID HE WIN?
>> Jon: I WAS LOOKING AROUND AND THEN SAW MYSELF ON THE THING
AND I SAID, OH, WE WON!
YAY!
>> Stephen: HE DIDN'T TELL YOU, YOU TOLD YOU.
>> Jon: YEAH, SOWL, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT ONE IN THE LIST.
WE WERE TEXTING EACH OTHER.
THAT WAS THE JOKE WE WERE HAVING ALL NIGHT LONG.
THAT WAS FUN, MAN, IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.
>> Jon: WELL DESERVED.
WHAT A BEAUTIFUL SCORE.
GOD, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT IT?
>> Jon: I KNOW, I'VE GOT TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
WE'VE GOT SOME SHELVES OVER THE PIANO, SO I COULD JUST LOOK AT
IT AND THINK, WOW, MAYBE I'LL GET BACK TO THIS ONE DAY.
>> Stephen: AND MAYBE MAKE IT A BIG SHELF BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING
TO LOAD THEM UP AS THE YEARS GO ON.
CONGRATULATIONS.
>> Jon: OH, MAN.
>> Stephen: I WISH YOU COULD GO OUT AND CELEBRATE RIGHT NOW
BUT I CAN NOT WAIT TO CELEBRATE WITH YOU WHEN WE CAN SEE EACH
OTHER IN PERSON.
>> Jon: YEAH, I LOVE THE VIDEO YOU SENT ME LAST NIGHT.
>> Stephen: THAT'S A VIDEO OF EVIE AND JOHN SAYING
CONGRATULATIONS.
WELL, IT'S FROM THE HEART.
THAT'S WONDERFUL, JON, CONGRATS.
>> Jon: THANK YOU, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
>> Stephen: GOLDEN GLOBE WINNER, JON BATISTE, EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU, JON.
>> Jon: HEY!
>> Stephen:.
>> Stephen: FOLKS, WE'RE ALL TRYING TO STAY HEALTHY THESE
DAYS.
LUCKILY, THERE'S A NEW LINE OF PRODUCTS THAT WON'T HELP AT ALL.
BECAUSE THE NEWEST TREND IN SPORTS BEVERAGES IS SOMETHING
CALLED "PERFORMANCE BEER."
WHAT IS A "PERFORMANCE BEER," EXACTLY?
IT'S BEER WITH ADDED ELECTROLYTES TO HELP THE BODY
DEHYDRATE LESS.
IT'S A BEER THAT KEEPS YOU GOING, SO YOU'VE GOT THE STAMINA
TO DRINK MORE BEER.
EXPLAINS THIS NEWEST AD: "ELECTRO LITE: ALL THE ENERGY
YOU NEED TO JUMP OFF MARK'S ROOF."
NOW, IF YOU FEEL LIKE SUCKING DOWN A COLD, HEALTHY ONE, THERE
ARE PLENTY OF BEERS TO CHOOSE FROM, LIKE "HARPOON BREWERY REC
LEAGUE," "BOULEVARD EASY SPORT," AND ZELUS BEER COMPANY'S
"WEEKENDER."
CAUTION: DO NOT TRY DRIVING YOUR JEEP, YOUR BIKE, OR YOUR BIKE ON
TOP OF YOUR JEEP WHILE DRINKING WEEKENDER.
BUT AS A FAN OF RECREATIONAL BRAIN DAMAGE, I'M THRILLED THAT
THEY'RE FINALLY MAKING BOOZE LIKE SPORTS DRINKS.
AND I THINK IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE ALCOHOL MAKERS
START TARGETING THEIR BEVERAGES AT SPECIFIC GROUPS OF ATHLETES.
GET READY FOR "SWIMMER'S WINE," AND "VAULT: THE POLE-VAULTERS'
VODKA."
YOU KNOW THEIR MOTTO: "I BET YOU CAN DO IT!"
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH ANDY SAMBERG.
♪♪♪
>> Stephen: EAIVED.
WELCOME BACK.
MY FIRST GUEST IS AN EMMY-AWARD WINNING ACTOR, COMEDIAN, WRITER,
AND PRODUCER YOU KNOW FROM "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE," "BROOKLYN
NINE-NINE," AND HIS LATEST FILM, "PALM SPRINGS."
PLEASE WELCOME TO "A LATE SHOW," ANDY SAMBERG.
HI, ANDY.
>> HI!
>> Stephen: HEY, GOOD TO SEE YA.
>> YOU, TOO.
HOW ARE YA?
>> Stephen: GOOD.
I'M LIKING THIS.
THIS IS NICE.
>> YEAH, I HAVE BEEN SAYING I TRIED TO GET THE JAMIE DORNIN
PART IN BARB AND STAR BUT NO DICE.
>> Stephen: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHALLENGE ME TO
A DUEL OR SUGGEST A THREE-WAY.
>> YOU WOULD THINK BEING FRIENDS WITH WIG WOULD HAVE PUT ME OVER
BUT NOT EVEN CLOSE APPARENTLY.
WASN'T EVEN CONSIDERED.
>> Stephen: BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT ANYTHING, I HAVE TO HIT
YOU WITH A BIG THANKS FOR A MOVIE THAT I WAS A LITTLE LATE
TO, ADMITTEDLY, AND THAT IS POP STAR, NEVER STOP NEVER STOPPING.
AND IF PEOPLE OUT THERE HAVE NOT SEEN IT, PLEASE, TURN OFF THIS
SHOW RIGHT NOW -- NO, ( BLEEP THIS SHOW, GO WATCH POP STAR
NEVER STOP NEVER STOPPING.
IT IS POUND FOR POUND ONE OF THE FUNNIEST MOVIES I'VE EVER SEEN.
I WATCHED IT THREE TIMES OVER THE CHRISTMAS BREAK.
I WATCH IT.
I KEEP IT ON.
I OWN IT.
I JUST POP IT ON EVERY FEW MINUTES TO CHEER ME UP A LITTLE
BIT.
IT'S MY ZOLOFT, IT'S MY XANAX.
FIRST OF ALL -- I'LL LET YOU TALK EVENTUALLY -- THE MUSIC IS
NOT ONLY FUNNY, BUT IT'S REALLY GOOD.
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GAY, BUT IF I WAS, I WOULD DEMAND EQUAL
RIGHTS!
COME ON!
( LAUGHTER ) NOW, I HOPE EVERYBODY WAXINGS
THAT POETICALLY TO YOU ABOUT THIS MOVIE.
I MEAN -- >> EVERY NOW AND AGAIN.
THIS IS A DREAM SCENARIO FOR ME, OBVIOUSLY, ESPECIALLY
CONSIDERING WE PUT THE MOVIE OUT A WHILE AGO.
>> Stephen: 20, 25 YEARS AGO, SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
>> IT FEELS LIKE IT, AT LEAST.
IT WAS PRE-BEARD, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.
>> Stephen: SURE.
IT FEELS LIKE IT'S SLOWLY FINDING ITS AUDIENCE,
DEFINITELY, AND YEAR BY YEAR, I THINK IT GAINS MORE AND MORE
MOMENTUM AND MAKES ME HAPPY TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT, OBVIOUSLY.
ANYONE LIKE YOURSELF IN THIS COMEDY WORLD --
>> Stephen: NOT AS HAPPY AS IT MAKES ME TO SEE IT.
JOKE PER MINUTE RATIO CANNOT BE PETE BEATEN.
AND THROWAWAY JOKES YOU'RE NOT PUSHING HARD.
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: YOU MADE IT WITH YOUR LONELY ISLAND COHORTS AND
YOU GUYS WENT ON TOUR BEFORE THE PANDEMIC AND SOME OF MY STAFF
WENT TO SEE IT AND SAID IT WAS JUST AMAZING.
IS IT SURREAL TO HEAR PEOPLE SINGING ALONG WITH THESE
BEAUTIFUL BUT STUPID SONGS?
>> IT'S SO DUMB.
IT'S SO WONDERFULLY DUMB.
YOU KNOW, WE -- BEFORE WE GOT ON S.N.L. AND STUFF, WE WERE
OBSESSED WITH LIKE TENACIOUS D AND WEIRD AL AND SPINAL TAP,
OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE GOT TO GO TO A TENACIOUS D CONCERT THAT WERE
QUITE DUMB AND INCREDIBLY DIRTY.
BUT WE DIDN'T THINK IT COULD BE US.
IT WAS THREE DUDES GOOFING AROUND WITH A MICROPHONE, BUT
SUDDENLY BEING IN FRONT OF 30,000 PEOPLE SINGING I'M ON A
BOAT OR ( BLEEP ) IN A BOX.
>> Stephen: SURE.
BUT IT'S NOT LIKE MANIFESTING THE CARTOON WORLD IN YOUR MIND
INTO REALITY.
>> Stephen: WELL, AS I SAID, I HAVE BEEN WATCHING YOUR STUFF TO
CHEER ME UP DURING THE PANDEMIC.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO CHEER YOURSELF UP?
WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO KEEP YOUR MIND OFF THE PARANOIA?
>> A LOT OF PARENTING.
I'VE GOT A THREE-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER.
>> Stephen: YOU CAME TO THE PANDEMIC PRE-EXHAUSTED?
>> YES, I HAD ALREADY HIT THE WALL.
>> Stephen: AND DOES SHE KEEP YOU IN LINE?
BECAUSE THE PEOPLE -- I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE BUT THE PEOPLE WHO
CALL IT THE TERRIBLE TWOs HAVE NEVER HAD A THREE-YEAR-OLD.
>> RIGHT.
>> Stephen: IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE NOT WONDERFUL BUT
THEY'RE EVEN MORE HEAD STRONG AND PHYSICALLY STRONGER, TOO.
>> OH, YEAH.
>> Stephen: DOES SHE PUSH YOU AROUND?
>> SHE PUSHES ME AROUND.
THERE'S A LOT GOING ON.
IT'S DEFINITELY MORE EXCITING AND INTERESTING.
>> Stephen: YEAH.
AND SHE CAN HURT ME NOW AND DOES.
BUT SHE'S ALSO, LIKE, STARTED DOING BITS, WITH I IS A DREAM
FOR ME, OBVIOUSLY.
>> Stephen: GOOD STUFF?
I'LL WALK IN HER ROOM AND SHE'S CLEARLY UP TO SOMETHING
AND I GO, WHAT'S GOING ON, KIDDO?
AND SHE WILL BE, LIKE, OH, DADDY!
EVERYTHING HERE IS TOTALLY NORMAL!
( LAUGHTER ) NOTHING TO SEE HERE, DADDY.
AND I'M, LIKE, ARE YOU WATCHING OLD COMEDIES?
SHE'S GOT ALL THE LINGO DOWN.
AND OBVIOUSLY SHE'S STUFFING BEANS INTO MY SHOES OR
SOMETHING.
>> Stephen: DOES SHE THINK YOU'RE FUNNY?
>> SHE'S STARTING TO NOW.
THERE WAS A LONG TIME WHERE SHE WOULD TALK A LOT ABOUT HOW
MOMMY'S FUNNY AND DADDY'S NOT FUNNY.
BUT NOW SHE'S KEYING INTO MY THING, YOU KNOW.
SHE REALIZES, LIKE, I'LL JUST KEEP DOING SOMETHING UNTIL SHE
LAUGHS, WHICH IS MY MAIN MOVE IN LIFE AND CAREER.
>> Stephen: DO YOU WANT HER TO SEE YOUR STUFF?
IS THERE STUFF YOU DON'T WANT HER TO SEE?
>> I MEAN, EVENTUALLY, I WANT HER TO SEE IT DID ALL.
( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: I KEPT MY KIDS FOR
A LONG TIME FROM SEEING ANYTHING.
LKE JUST DON'T WATCH ANYTHING.
I JUST WANT TO BE YOUR DAD, I DON'T WANT TO BE ON TV.
>> BUT WE'RE SIMILAR IN THAT THERE'S A RANGE, RIGHT?
LIKE YOU PROBABLY WANT THEM TO BE TEENAGERS AT LEAST UNTIL THEY
SAY ONE OF MY ALL-TIME FAVES, STRANGERS WITH CANDY.
>> Stephen: THEY STILL HAVEN'T WATCHED THAT, AND THAT'S FINE
WITH ME.
>> NOT FINE WITH ME.
THAT'S CLASSIC.
>> Stephen: SOMETIMES I WATCH IT AND GO, WE WROTE THAT?
>> IT'S SO GOOD.
IT'S SO GOOD.
>> Stephen: MY DAUGHTER LOOKED AT ME, I WAS ON A PHONE CALL
WITH PAUL DINELLO I WROTE STRANGERS WITH, AND I GOT OFF
THE PHONE AND SHE WAS LOOKING AT ME SIDEWAYS LIKE THIS, LIKE SHE
WAS JUST THINKING ABILITY WHAT I SAID.
SHE SAID, WERE YOU -- I SAID, WERE YOU LISTENING TO THE PHONE
CALL?
SHE SAID, I THINK I UNDERSTAND NOW.
YOU DON'T MEAN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I SAID, YES, DADDY DOESN'T MEAN WHAT HE'S SAYING "FOR A LIVING."
>> HOW OLD IS SHE, DO YOU THINK?
>> Stephen: SEVEN, EIGHT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE, LIKE, SARCASM CLICKS.
>> Stephen: JUST BEGINNING TO GO.
>> THAT'S WHERE I GET IN TROUBLE WITH MY DAUGHTER WITH SARCASM.
SHE JUST SHUTS DOWN.
SHE'S, LIKE, WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT?
>> Stephen: A THREE AND A HALF-YEAR-OLD BARELY HAS A
VOCABULARY OTHER LIKE THE NUANCES OF DOUBLE ENTANDRA,
TERRIBLE FATHER.
MOM'S ALWAYS FANNY, DAD'S BEGINNING TO BE FUNNY.
YOU'RE MARRIED TO SUPERSTAR HARPIST JOANNA NEWSOM.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> Stephen: HOW MUCH HAS HARP MUSIC PLAYED INTO THE PANDEMIC?
IS IT SOOTHING OR MAYBE YOU'VE SUCCUMBED AND YOU'RE IN HEAVEN
NOW?
>> YEAH, YOU DO FEEL LIKE YOU'VE PASSED THROUGH THE PEARLY GATES.
BUT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE THAT BEFORE FOR ME.
I MET JOANNA AT ONE OF HER CONCERTS, I WAS A HUGE FAN OF
HEARSE BEFORE WE KNEW EACH OTHER.
>> Stephen: BEFORE GOING INTO THIS YOU WERE A HARPHEAD.
>> A MAJOR HARPHEAD.
>> Stephen: HAVE YOU TRIED IT.
YEAH, I'VE TICKLED THE SHEEP GUTS.
>> Stephen: IT'S NOT NYLON?
IT'S SHEEP GUTS?
>> ONE DAY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TICKLING THE IVORIES, SHE SAYS
WITH A HARP IT'S SHEEP GUTS SO YOU TICKLE THE SHEEP GUTS.
DOESN'T HAVE QUITE THE RING TO IT, BUT THE MUSIC COMES OUT
QUITE BEAUTIFUL.
>> Stephen: SO CAN YOU DO IT?
HE TAUGHT ME ANYONE CAN PLAY HARP AND IT WILL SOUND GOOD
BECAUSE YOU JUST STRUM IT AND IT'S ALL IN TUNE.
SO IT'S EASY TO PLAY THE HARP BUT IMPOSSIBLE TO PLAY IT WELL,
BASICALLY.
>> Stephen: YOU GET TO BE INTERMEDIATE IMMEDIATELY AND YOU
NEVER GO ANYWHERE ELSE.
>> EXACTLY.
>> Stephen: YOU'RE LATEST FILM IS "PALM SPRINGS," A HUGE HIT,
DEBUTED AT SUNDANCE.
THE LAST TIME, I THINK, PEOPLE IN SHOW BUSINESS WERE ALLOWED TO
GET TOGETHER AND WATCH EACH OTHERS' MOVIES, ACTUALLY.
THINGS SHUT DOWN RIGHT AROUND NOW A YEAR AGO.
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: AND IT'S A PERFECT COVID MOVIE THEMATICALLY.
TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHAT IT'S ABOUT.
>> IT'S A MOVIE ABOUT A WEDDING IN "PALM SPRINGS," AND WITHOUT
GIVING TOO MUCH AWAY, YOU BASICALLY LEARN QUICKLY ONE OF
THE GUESTS IS STUCK THERE IN A TIME LOOP, SO HE'S RELIVING THAT
DAY OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THAT'S ME, AND THEN THROUGH SOME
ENTERTAINING CIRCUMSTANCES, HE ACCIDENTALLY BRINGS SOMEONE ELSE
IN AS WELL.
>> Stephen: TO THE LOOP.
SO SOMEONE ELSE BECOMES AWARE OF IT.
>> YEAH.
MY BUDDY KRISTEN WHO CO-STARS IN THE MOVIE WITH ME AND TAKES OFF
FROM THERE.
>> Stephen: WE HAVE A CLIP HERE, SHOWS HOW YOUR CHARACTER
USES THE TIME LOOP TO HIS ADVANTAGE, I THINK TO SEDUCE
HER?
>> IN HIS OWN MIND THAT'S WHAT HE I.C.E.'S ATTEMPTING.
HE KNOWS EVERYTHING GOING ON HERE BUT SHE DOESN'T.
SHE'S STILL ON THE OUTSIDE OF IT ALL.
>> Stephen: JIM.
♪♪♪ ♪♪♪
UP >> Stephen: SMOOTH OPERATOR.
THAT'S MY SONG.
I'M STILL ROCKING TO THAT SONG.
>> Stephen: "PALM SPRINGS" IS AVAILABLE ON HULU NOW.
ANDY SAMBERG, EVERYBODY.
WE'LL BE BACK WITH CNN'S CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT
CLARISSA WARD!
♪♪♪
>> Stephen: HEY, WELCOME BACK,
EVERYBODY.
MY NEXT GUEST IS CNN'S CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT AND
A PEABODY-AWARD WINNING JOURNALIST WHO HAS SPENT MORE
THAN 15 YEARS REPORTING FROM FRONT LINES ALL OVER THE WORLD.
PLEASE WELCOME, CLARISSA WARD.
CLARISSA, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
>> Stephen: ESPECIALLY BEING HERE FROM LONDON.
IT'S THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
SO THANKS FOR STAYING UP.
>> IT'S OKAY.
I'M USED TO IT.
>> Stephen: YOU GREW UP BOTH IN THE UNITED STATES AND IN THE
U.K.
AND I WATCHED, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CNN, AND I SEE YOU ON THERE
REPORTING FROM AROUND THE WORLD.
SOMETIMES YOU SOUND LIKE AN AMERICAN, AND IN THE MIDDLE OF
THE SENTENCE, IT WILL SWITCH OVER AND SOUND BRITISH.
IS THAT A TOGGLE YOU CAN SWITCH OR JUST SOME WORDS YOU CAN'T GET
AWAY FROM?
>> YOU KNOW, I'VE TRIED OVER THE YEARS TO REFINE IT.
I OFTEN SAY IT'S LIKE BEING BILINGUAL BUT IT'S UTTERLY
USELESS -- ( BRITISH ACCENT )
WHEN I'M ON THE PHONE WITH AN AMERICAN, I SOUND TO ITLY
AMERICAN BUT WITH MY FATHER I'M BRITISH.
I TRY TO KEEP IT STREAMLINE.
I WOULD BE GETTING SHOT AT AND PEOPLE WOULD BE, LIKE, WHERE IS
SHE FROM?
IS SHE A CANADIAN?
I WOULD SAY, PEOPLE, FOCUS, I'M AMERICAN.
>> Stephen: WHERE IS SHE FROM?
WHAT'S HER DEAL?
YOU HAVE INTERVIEWED JIHADISTS, EMBEDDED WITH THE TALIBAN,
SURVIVED BOMBINGS, REPORTED FROM COUNTLESS WAR ZONES.
RAFF RISKING YOUR RIFE TO -- AFTER RISKING YOUR LIFE TO TRY
TO BRING THE VIEWING PUBLIC THE TRUTH ABOUT A SITUATION, HOW
DOES IT FEEL TO HEAR WHAT YOU DO FOR A LIVING DESCRIBED BY SOME
CORNERS TO HAVE THE INTERNET AND POLITICS AS FAKE NEWS?
>> UM, IT'S DEPRESSING.
IT'S DEPRESSING, IT'S DEMORALIZING, ESPECIALLY WHEN
YOU'RE ON A FRONT LINE SOMEWHERE RISKING YOUR LIFE TO TELL OTHER
PEOPLE'S STORIES.
I ALSO THINK IT CAN BE INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS NOT JUST
FOR ME AND MY COLLEAGUES AS WESTERN JOURNALISTS BUT ALSO
LOOKING AROUND SOME OF THE CORNERS OF THE EARTH THAT I
SPEND TIME, LOCAL JOURNALISTS IN COUNTRIES ARE AUTHORITARIAN
REGIMES FEEL EMBOLDENED WHEN FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYS THAT
PRESS IS THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE OR USES THIS SORT OF MONIKER OF
FAKE NEWS.
I THINK IT CAN BE INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS.
THOSE PEOPLE MIGHT END UP IN PRISON OR BEING PUNISHED FOR
THAT.
BUT MORE BROADLY SPEAKING, STEPHEN, I THINK THIS IS REALLY
ULTIMATELY, IT'S A RALLYING CRY, OKAY, AND IT'S TIME FOR
JOURNALISTS TO ROLL UP THEIR SLEEVES AND MAN UP AND, YES,
OKAY, WE CAN FEEL SORRY FOR OURSELVES THAT THIS IS BEING
LEVELED AT US, BUT ACTUALLY THIS IS A MOMENT WHERE WE REALLY NEED
TO STEP IN AND STAND UP HERE, BECAUSE ONE OF THE GREATEST
THREATS FACING OUR SOCIETY RIGHT NOW IS THE CONSTANT BARRAGE OF
MISINFORMATION, DISINFORMATION THAT IS READILY BEING GOBBLED
UP, SEEMINGLY BY A GROWING NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.
AND THAT'S A REAL THREAT, THAT IS SERIOUS BUSINESS.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT PEOPLE BELIEVING IN LIES, WHICH IS
DANGEROUS, IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE NO LONGER BELIEVING IN TRUTH.
AND ONCE YOU HAVE A SOCIETY THAT NO LONGER BELIEVES IN TRUTH,
THAT IS UNABLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN FACT AND FICTION, THAT
DOESN'T EVEN AGREE THAT THERE IS SUCH A THING AS TRUTH, THAT'S
SOCIETY IS UNIQUELY VULNERABLE TO TOTALITARIANISM.
IT'S NOT JUST ME SEEING THIS.
IT WAS WRITTEN ABOUT AFTER THE SECOND WORLD WAR.
THIS IS A REAL THREAT AND IT'S TIME FOR US TO MAN UP AND STEP
IN AND DO OUR JOBS.
>> Stephen: WELL, YOU'VE GOT A NEW BOOK CALLED "ON ALL FRONTS:
THE EDUCATION OF A JOURNALIST."
I'LL PUT IT RIGHT OVER THERE SO WE CAN GET THE PICTURE.
THERE'S SOME EXTRAORDINARY STORIES HERE OF SOME OF THE
SITUATIONS YOU FOUND SOULFUL IN.
PEOPLE HAVE CALLED -- FOUND YOURSELF IN.
PEOPLE HAVE CALLED YOU FEARLESS.
ISN'T THAT TRUE?
ISN'T FEAR USEFUL EVOLUTIONARILY SPEAKING?
>> IT'S ONE OF MY PET PEEVES.
PEOPLE SAY YOU'RE SO FEARLESS, I SAY WHAT A LOT OF RUBBISH.
READ THE BOOK.
I'M PETRIFIED HALF THE TIME AND IF YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE STUPID
BECAUSE YOU'RE IN SITUATIONS WHERE YOUR LIFE IS AT RISK.
FEAR PLAYS A ROLE EVOLUTIONARILY IN DETERMINING AND DICTATING HOW
YOU GET YOURSELF OUT OF THOSE SITUATIONS.
BUT, YES, I FEEL DEEP FEAR AND THAT FEAR IS AN IMPORTANT
REMINDER TO HAVE THE ENORMITY OF SOME OF THE STUFF WE'RE TRYING
TO DO.
>> Stephen: IN 2019, YOU EMBEDDED WITH THE TALIBAN IN
AFGHANISTAN.
WHAT'S THAT EXPERIENCE LIKE?
AS A WOMAN IN SOCIETY WHO HOLDS WOMEN NOT AS EQUAL, EVEN WORSE
THAN THAT, EVEN ALMOST AS CHATTEL PROPERTY, WHAT WAS THAT
EXPERIENCE LIKE FOR YOU AS A FEMALE JOURNALIST?
>> I THINK AS A FEMALE JOURNALIST WHEN YOU'RE DOING
THIS WORK, YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO LEAVE A LOT OF YOUR
STUFF AT THE DOOR IN TERMS OF WHAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE.
WHEN YOU'RE GOING INTO SOMEBODY ELSE'S TERRITORY, YOU NEED TO BE
ABLE TO ACCEPT THEIR TERMS OF ENGAGEMENT AND ACCEPT THEIR
SOCIETY.
SO I UNDERSTOOD FROM THE GET-GO I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO COVER
MYSELF COMPLETELY INCLUDING MY FACE.
I UNDERSTOOD MY PRODUCER AND I WERE GOING TO HAVE TO SLEEP
SEPARATELY IN A DIFFERENT PART OF THE HOUSE FROM OUR MALE
CAMERAMAN WHO WE WERE WORKING WITH.
WHAT I HADN'T QUITE BARGAINED ON IS WHEN I WAS INTERVIEWING THE
TALIBAN COMMANDER THAT I WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO WALK TOWN
THE STREET WITH HIM WHILE WE WERE DOING THIS INTERVIEW AND,
IN FACT, IT CAUSED A HUGE RUCKUS WHEN I EVEN SUGGESTED IT AND HE
GOT FRUSTRATED AND SAID WHY DIDN'T SHE BRING A MAN WITH HER
TO DO THE INTERVIEWS AND I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN THAT'S NOT
REALLY THE WAY IT WORKS.
BUT I DID IT, IN THE END, AND I WALKED BEHIND HIM AS WE WALKED
DOWN THE STREET, AND IT DIDN'T FEEL GREAT, BUT, AT THE SAME
TIME, IT ILLUSTRATED THE POINT THAT WE WERE TRYING TO SHOW, I'M
NOT INTERESTED IN SHOWING THE WORLD SOME SANITIZED GLAMORIZED
VERSION OF THE TALIBAN, I WANT TO SHOW THE WORLD WHAT IT'S
REALLY LIKE.
THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD SAY, STEPHEN, AND THIS IS THE
PART THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT ON TO THE NEWS AND PART OF WHY I WROTE
THE BOOK, I HAD THE MOST BEAUTIFUL EVENING SLEEPING IN
THE SAME ROOM AS ALL THE WOMEN WHO WERE THE WIVES TO HAVE THE
VARIOUS TALIBAN FIGHTERS ALSO AND THE CHILDREN, AND IT'S
MOMENTS LIKE THAT WHEN YOU REMEMBER THAT PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE
AND THEY'RE BORN INTO THESE SOCIETIES AND THEY DON'T HAVE A
LOT OF CHOICE OR AGENCY IN THAT AND THEY'RE JUST LIVING THEIR
LIVES AND DOING THEIR BEST, AND THEY TREED US WITH GREAT RESPECT
AND GREAT AFFECTION, AND IT WAS A REALLY BEAUTIFUL MOMENT TO BE
ABLE TO SHARE WITH THEM, WHEN WE HAVE SO LITTLE IN COMMON, NO
LANGUAGE IS SHARED, VERY DIFFERENT VALUES, UNDERSTANDINGS
OF THE WORLD, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
>> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK, BUT WE'LL BE RIGHT
BACK WITH MORE CLARISSA WARD.
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>> WHO KNOWS, I MAY EVEN DECIDE TO BEAT THEM FOR A THIRD TIME.
OKAY?
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> HERE'S YOUR PROBLEM, YOUR
COUNTRY'S GOT A TRUMP.
I CAN SPRAY HIM DOWN BUT HE'LL JUST KEEP COMING BACK.
I RECOMMEND GETTING STIMULUS CHECKS OUT THE DOOR, GIVE PEOPLE
A GLIMMER OF MOBILITY.
BUT TILL THEN, BUG SPRAY.
DON, JR. SAID HE WOULD GIVE ME 20 BUCKS A SLURP.
♪♪♪ >> Stephen: HEY, WE'RE BACK
WITH CNN'S CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT AND AUTHOR OF "ON
ALL FRONTS," CLARISSA WARD.
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION LAUNCHED ATTACKS LAST WEEK
AGAINST IRANIAN-BACKED MILITIAS IN SYRIA.
YOU KNOW SYRIA WELL.
IRAN SAID THEY'RE NOT COMING TO THE NEGOTIATION TABLE ON THE
NUCLEAR ARMS TREATY.
>> TRYING TO PUT HUMPTY DUMPTY TOGETHER AGAIN ON THE NUCLEAR
ARMS DEAL WITH IRAN WILL BE DIFFICULT.
I SPENT TIME IN IRAN.
THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT'S ECONOMICALLY DEPRESSED AND
DEEPLY IMBITTERED.
THERE'S NO TRUST FOR THE U.S.
THERE HAD BEEN A DEAL BEFORE, THE U.S. DROPPED IT.
HOW DO YOU PERSUADE PEOPLE TO ENTER INTO THAT TRUST AGAIN.
SIMULTANEOUSLY, IF YOU'RE THE BIKES, HOW DO YOU SEND A STRONG
MESSAGE TO IRAN THAT THE SHENANIGANS IN THE REGION WITH
MILITIAS TARGETING U.S.
INSTALLATIONS IN IRAQ, KILLING PEOPLE WORKING WITH THE U.S.,
THAT THAT WILL NOT BE TOLERATED BUT, AT THE SAME TIME, EXTEND
YOUR HAND TO SAY WE WANT VERY MUCH TO TRY TO MAKE THIS DEAL
WORK AGAIN, HOW CAN WE GET YOU TO TRUST US AGAIN?
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMPLEXITY OF THE OPPOSING AND
DUELING NARRATIVES AND IDEOLOGIES AND MOTIVATIONS, YOU
REALIZE BOTH SIDES HAVE THEIR WORK CUT OUT FOR THEM IN TERMS
OF TRYING TO PUT THIS THING BACK TOGETHER, AND THE ONLY THING I
CAN SAY FROM THE SYRIAN PERSPECTIVE IS I JUST REALLY
HOPE THAT THE PLIGHT TO HAVE THE SYRIAN PEOPLE -- THE PLIGHT OF
THE SYRIAN PEOPLE WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN.
WHILE IT'S NOT CENTER STAGE, IT'S VERY MUCH PART OF THE
BACKDROP OF EVERYTHING THAT WOULD HAPPEN TO RE-CREATE THE
IRAN DEAL.
I JUST HOPE AFTER HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DEAD AND TEN YEARS
OF BRUTAL CIVIL WAR AND AMERICA NOT PLAYING A SUPER PRODUCTIVE
ROLE, THAT PERHAPS WE CAN TRY, ALSO, TO DO SOMETHING TO
MITIGATE THE SUFFERING OF THE SYRIAN PEOPLE.
>> Stephen: WELL, CLARISSA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING
HERE.
HER BOOK, "ON ALL FRONTS," IS AVAILABLE NOW.
CLARISSA WARD, EVERYBODY.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
♪♪♪
>> Stephen: WELL THAT'S IT FOR "A LATE SHOW," EVERYBODY.
PLEASE TUNE IN TOMORROW WHEN MY GUEST WILL BE NEIL
DEGRASSE TYSON PLUS A SPECIAL PERFORMANCE BY
OUR OWN GOLDEN GLOBE WINNER, JON BATISTE.
JAMES CORDEN IS NEXT.
GOOD NIGHT.
♪♪♪ >> Stephen: WE'LL TALK ABOUT
IT IN THE INTERVIEW.
THAT'S A PRE-THANKS.
THAT'S A PRE-THANKS FOR THAT MOVIE.
ALL RIGHT.
>> THANK YOU.
CONSIDER ME DISARMED.
( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: IT WORKED!
WHAT DID I SAY?
I SAID ACTORS ARE SUCKERS.
( LAUGHTER ) ♪♪♪
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