1 00:00:31,698 --> 00:00:33,400 >> WELCOME, WELCOME, 2 00:00:33,466 --> 00:00:34,167 WELCOME TO "LAST WEEK TONIGHT!" 3 00:00:34,234 --> 00:00:34,834 I'M JOHN OLIVER. 4 00:00:34,901 --> 00:00:35,368 THANK YOU SO MUCH 5 00:00:35,435 --> 00:00:37,470 FOR JOINING US. 6 00:00:37,537 --> 00:00:38,338 IT'S BEEN ANOTHER BUSY WEEK. 7 00:00:38,405 --> 00:00:39,139 THE SENATE CONFIRMED 8 00:00:39,205 --> 00:00:40,140 KETANJI BROWN JACKSON TO THE 9 00:00:40,206 --> 00:00:42,542 SUPREME COURT. 10 00:00:42,609 --> 00:00:43,910 ELON MUSK JOINED THE BOARD 11 00:00:43,977 --> 00:00:45,044 OF TWITTER, PRESUMABLY TO 12 00:00:45,111 --> 00:00:47,013 INNOVATE NEW WAYS TO MAKE IT 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:47,447 WORSE. 14 00:00:47,514 --> 00:00:48,348 AND THE RUSSIAN INVASION 15 00:00:48,415 --> 00:00:48,915 OF UKRAINE CONTINUED TO 16 00:00:48,982 --> 00:00:49,983 ESCALATE, WITH REPORTS OF 17 00:00:50,049 --> 00:00:52,585 UNFATHOMABLE HORRORS, STRONGLY 18 00:00:52,652 --> 00:00:53,052 SUGGESTING WAR CRIMES, 19 00:00:53,119 --> 00:00:56,256 IF NOT GENOCIDE. 20 00:00:56,322 --> 00:00:57,524 AND LOOK, I KNOW THIS IS 21 00:00:57,590 --> 00:00:59,292 ALLEGEDLY A COMEDY SHOW, 22 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:00,527 AND I'VE JUST SAID THE MOST 23 00:01:00,593 --> 00:01:01,561 UPSETTING COLLECTION OF WORDS 24 00:01:01,628 --> 00:01:02,595 SINCE "LOUIS CK WINS GRAMMY 25 00:01:02,662 --> 00:01:04,364 FOR BEST COMEDY ALBUM." 26 00:01:04,431 --> 00:01:05,198 BUT WE DO NEED TO AT LEAST 27 00:01:05,265 --> 00:01:07,033 BRIEFLY DEAL WITH WHAT'S GOING 28 00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:08,401 ON IN UKRAINE, AND PARTICULARLY 29 00:01:08,468 --> 00:01:10,270 BUCHA, SITE OF SOME OF THE WORST 30 00:01:10,336 --> 00:01:11,471 IMAGES TO EMERGE THIS WEEK. 31 00:01:11,538 --> 00:01:13,673 BECAUSE RUSSIAN STATE TV IS 32 00:01:13,740 --> 00:01:16,209 GOING OUT OF ITS WAY NOT TO. 33 00:01:16,276 --> 00:01:18,511 HERE IS HOW ONE BROADCASTER 34 00:01:18,578 --> 00:01:20,013 THERE SPUN THOSE TERRIBLE IMAGES 35 00:01:20,079 --> 00:01:24,083 OF BODIES IN THE STREETS. 36 00:01:24,150 --> 00:01:25,218 >> THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THE 37 00:01:25,285 --> 00:01:26,119 SCREEN THAT ARE LYING DEAD 38 00:01:26,186 --> 00:01:26,920 IN THE STREET WITH WHITE 39 00:01:26,986 --> 00:01:28,455 ARM BANDS. 40 00:01:28,521 --> 00:01:30,423 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 41 00:01:30,490 --> 00:01:31,424 IT MEANS THAT AFTER RUSSIAN 42 00:01:31,491 --> 00:01:33,159 FORCES LEFT BUCHA, 43 00:01:33,226 --> 00:01:34,961 THE SO-CALLED LIBERATORS CAME IN 44 00:01:35,028 --> 00:01:35,695 AND THEY SIMPLY KILLED PEACEFUL 45 00:01:35,762 --> 00:01:37,230 CIVILIANS. 46 00:01:37,297 --> 00:01:38,231 ON THE SCREEN, 47 00:01:38,298 --> 00:01:40,667 PEOPLE ARE MOVING. 48 00:01:40,733 --> 00:01:42,101 THAT MEANS THAT ACTORS 49 00:01:42,168 --> 00:01:42,869 WERE ALSO INVOLVED. 50 00:01:42,936 --> 00:01:43,603 A CONCLUSION OUT OF ALL OF THIS 51 00:01:43,670 --> 00:01:45,805 IS THAT TO ACHIEVE 52 00:01:45,872 --> 00:01:48,708 THEIR MEDIA GOALS, 53 00:01:48,775 --> 00:01:50,410 THE UKRAINIAN KYIV REGIME, 54 00:01:50,477 --> 00:01:51,077 KILLED ITS OWN PEOPLE. 55 00:01:51,144 --> 00:01:51,878 >> YEAH, SO THAT MAN'S 56 00:01:51,945 --> 00:01:53,246 OFFICIAL ARGUMENT IS UKRAINIANS 57 00:01:53,313 --> 00:01:55,014 KILLED THEIR OWN CIVILIANS, 58 00:01:55,081 --> 00:01:56,015 WHO ACTUALLY AREN'T CIVILIANS; 59 00:01:56,082 --> 00:01:56,916 THEY'RE ACTORS WHO WERE JUST 60 00:01:56,983 --> 00:01:57,917 PRETENDING TO BE DEAD, AND THE 61 00:01:57,984 --> 00:01:58,985 UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT ITSELF IS 62 00:01:59,052 --> 00:02:00,453 RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REAL 63 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:01,588 SLAUGHTER OF ITS OWN FAKE 64 00:02:01,654 --> 00:02:04,123 CIVILIANS. 65 00:02:04,190 --> 00:02:05,959 THAT'S OBVIOUSLY RIDICULOUS, AND 66 00:02:07,527 --> 00:02:09,629 DON'T OVERCOMPLICATE. 67 00:02:09,696 --> 00:02:10,964 THERE'S A REASON THE LINE IS 68 00:02:11,030 --> 00:02:12,699 "I DEFINITELY HAVE A GIRLFRIEND, 69 00:02:12,765 --> 00:02:14,133 SHE JUST GOES TO ANOTHER SCHOOL" 70 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:14,701 AND NOT, "I DEFINITELY HAVE 71 00:02:14,767 --> 00:02:16,169 A GIRLFRIEND, SHE'S ACTUALLY 72 00:02:16,236 --> 00:02:17,837 TWINS, SOMETIMES THEY MERGE AND 73 00:02:17,904 --> 00:02:19,239 BECAME ONE REALLY BIG GIRL, I'D 74 00:02:19,305 --> 00:02:20,707 INVITE YOU TO COME OVER AND MEET 75 00:02:20,773 --> 00:02:21,341 THEM, BUT THAT MIGHT BE 76 00:02:21,407 --> 00:02:22,575 CONFUSING, BECAUSE I AM YOU FROM 77 00:02:22,642 --> 00:02:24,744 THE FUTURE." 78 00:02:24,811 --> 00:02:25,979 RUSSIAN STATE TV HAS BEEN 79 00:02:26,045 --> 00:02:28,348 GRASPING AT STRAWS ALL WEEK, 80 00:02:28,414 --> 00:02:28,948 WITH A PRESENTER AT ONE POINT 81 00:02:29,015 --> 00:02:29,849 ARGUING, AS EVIDENCE THAT BUCHA 82 00:02:29,916 --> 00:02:31,217 WAS THE SITE OF A FALSE FLAG 83 00:02:31,284 --> 00:02:33,253 ATTACK, THAT "BIDEN SAID THAT 84 00:02:33,319 --> 00:02:35,355 PUTIN IS A BUTCHER. 85 00:02:35,421 --> 00:02:37,524 BUCHA SOUNDS LIKE BUTCHER. 86 00:02:37,590 --> 00:02:38,992 HOW COULD THEY NOT TAKE 87 00:02:39,058 --> 00:02:40,326 ADVANTAGE OF SUCH A TOWN?" 88 00:02:40,393 --> 00:02:42,228 WHICH IS JUST INSANE. 89 00:02:42,295 --> 00:02:43,897 IF BAD THINGS ONLY HAPPENED IN 90 00:02:43,963 --> 00:02:45,732 PLACES WITH NAMES THAT SOUNDED 91 00:02:45,798 --> 00:02:47,400 SCARY, ALL OF AMERICA'S WORST 92 00:02:47,467 --> 00:02:49,936 SHIT WOULD BE HAPPENING IN 93 00:02:50,003 --> 00:02:52,605 TOMBSTONE, ARIZONA, 94 00:02:52,672 --> 00:02:53,373 CAPE FEAR, NORTH CAROLINA, 95 00:02:53,439 --> 00:02:53,940 OR HELL, MICHIGAN 96 00:02:54,007 --> 00:02:56,309 AND NOT WHERE IT ACTUALLY 97 00:02:56,376 --> 00:02:58,044 TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA. 98 00:02:58,111 --> 00:02:59,512 BUT THIS FLAGRANT LYING IS 99 00:02:59,579 --> 00:03:01,748 CONSISTENT WITH HOW RUSSIA'S 100 00:03:01,814 --> 00:03:02,348 STATE MEDIA'S DEALT WITH THIS 101 00:03:02,415 --> 00:03:03,483 WAR FROM THE BEGINNING. 102 00:03:03,550 --> 00:03:04,951 AT FIRST, THEY REFUSED TO EVEN 103 00:03:05,018 --> 00:03:06,619 ACKNOWLEDGE THERE WAS A WAR, 104 00:03:06,686 --> 00:03:08,221 LET ALONE ADDRESS CASUALTIES. 105 00:03:08,288 --> 00:03:09,622 JUST WATCH WHAT HAPPENED LAST 106 00:03:09,689 --> 00:03:11,424 MONTH WHEN A MILITARY OFFICER 107 00:03:11,491 --> 00:03:21,200 MERELY MENTIONED RUSSIAN DEATHS. 108 00:03:21,267 --> 00:03:27,640 >> 109 00:03:27,707 --> 00:03:46,693 >> WOW, CLOSE CALL THERE! 110 00:03:46,759 --> 00:03:47,727 RUSSIAN VIEWERS ALMOST LEARNED 111 00:03:47,794 --> 00:03:48,895 THAT THEIR TROOPS WERE BEING 112 00:03:48,962 --> 00:03:50,263 KILLED UNTIL THAT HOST JUMPED UP 113 00:03:50,330 --> 00:03:51,998 AND SCREAMED "WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, 114 00:03:52,065 --> 00:03:54,734 IXNAY ON THE ASUALTIES-KAY." 115 00:03:54,801 --> 00:03:55,802 SOME TRULY GRADE-A PROPAGANDA 116 00:03:55,868 --> 00:03:57,270 WORK FROM THE NETWORK THAT 117 00:03:57,337 --> 00:03:58,004 BROUGHT YOU "SHUT UP ABOUT 118 00:03:58,071 --> 00:03:59,872 VLADIMIR PUTIN'S ELECTION FRAUD" 119 00:03:59,939 --> 00:04:00,406 AND "POISONING OPPONENTS? 120 00:04:00,473 --> 00:04:03,476 LA, LA, LA. 121 00:04:03,543 --> 00:04:05,178 I CAN'T HEAR YOU." 122 00:04:05,244 --> 00:04:06,412 IT SEEMS RUSSIA IS DETERMINED TO 123 00:04:06,479 --> 00:04:07,413 DENY THE OBVIOUS AND TO JUSTIFY 124 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,314 THE INDEFENSIBLE. 125 00:04:08,381 --> 00:04:09,282 BUT THAT'S GETTING INCREASINGLY 126 00:04:09,349 --> 00:04:11,217 HARD TO DO. 127 00:04:11,284 --> 00:04:12,785 AND IF YOU THINK "THOSE BODIES 128 00:04:12,852 --> 00:04:14,287 ARE ACTUALLY ACTORS" IS AS 129 00:04:14,354 --> 00:04:16,422 PATHETIC AS IT GOT, JUST LISTEN 130 00:04:16,489 --> 00:04:17,624 TO ROSSIYA-24'S RIDICULOUS 131 00:04:17,690 --> 00:04:22,462 EXPLANATION. 132 00:04:22,528 --> 00:04:23,229 >> THIS IS HOW THE 133 00:04:23,296 --> 00:04:24,897 PREPARATION FOR PERFORMANCE, 134 00:04:24,964 --> 00:04:25,498 LITERALLY, OF MILITARY ACTIONS 135 00:04:25,565 --> 00:04:26,599 IN UKRAINE IS TAKING PLACE. 136 00:04:26,666 --> 00:04:27,400 AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S QUITE 137 00:04:27,467 --> 00:04:28,868 UNCOMPLICATED. 138 00:04:28,935 --> 00:04:29,636 TWO PEOPLE IN MILITARY UNIFORMS 139 00:04:29,702 --> 00:04:31,437 CAREFULLY WRAP THE MANNEQUIN 140 00:04:31,504 --> 00:04:32,505 WITH TAPE. 141 00:04:32,572 --> 00:04:33,506 OBVIOUSLY, THEY ARE GOING TO 142 00:04:33,573 --> 00:04:38,411 PASS IT OFF AS A CORPSE. 143 00:04:38,478 --> 00:04:39,012 >> LOOK, THAT'S CLEARLY 144 00:04:39,078 --> 00:04:39,846 ABSURD. 145 00:04:39,912 --> 00:04:41,047 NOT ONLY ARE THE UKRAINIAN 146 00:04:41,114 --> 00:04:42,015 CASUALTIES OBVIOUSLY REAL, THAT 147 00:04:42,081 --> 00:04:42,649 FOOTAGE TURNED OUT TO BE PART OF 148 00:04:42,715 --> 00:04:44,684 A TV DRAMA BEING FILMED NEAR 149 00:04:44,751 --> 00:04:45,685 ST. PETERSBURG LAST MONTH. 150 00:04:45,752 --> 00:04:47,587 AND IF YOU'RE WONDERING WHICH TV 151 00:04:47,654 --> 00:04:48,688 SHOW, IT'S ZOEY'S EXTRAORDINARY 152 00:04:48,755 --> 00:04:50,156 PLAYLIST. 153 00:04:50,223 --> 00:04:51,524 WHAT CAN I SAY? 154 00:04:51,591 --> 00:04:53,092 RUSSIAN AUDIENCES REALLY CONNECT 155 00:04:53,159 --> 00:04:53,760 WITH THE STORY OF A WOMAN FORCED 156 00:04:53,826 --> 00:04:54,961 TO HALLUCINATE A MORE JOYFUL 157 00:04:55,028 --> 00:04:56,729 EXISTENCE. 158 00:04:56,796 --> 00:04:58,331 AND CLEARLY, THERE WILL BE MORE 159 00:04:58,398 --> 00:04:59,465 TO SAY ABOUT THE UKRAINIAN 160 00:04:59,532 --> 00:05:01,200 SITUATION AS IT DEVELOPS. 161 00:05:01,267 --> 00:05:02,301 BUT FOR NOW, LET'S MOVE TO A 162 00:05:02,368 --> 00:05:03,436 MUCH LESS CONSEQUENTIAL STORY, 163 00:05:03,503 --> 00:05:05,104 CONCERNING OAN. 164 00:05:05,171 --> 00:05:06,739 THE NETWORK WITH A LOGO THAT 165 00:05:06,806 --> 00:05:08,041 LOOKS LIKE IT BELONGS ON THE 166 00:05:08,107 --> 00:05:08,608 SIDE OF A TRUCK TRANSPORTING 167 00:05:08,675 --> 00:05:10,243 REFRIGERATOR PARTS. 168 00:05:10,309 --> 00:05:11,711 WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OAN A FEW 169 00:05:11,778 --> 00:05:13,713 TIMES OVER THE YEARS, PRIMARILY 170 00:05:13,780 --> 00:05:14,313 BECAUSE THEY WERE TRUMP'S 171 00:05:14,380 --> 00:05:16,382 FAVORITE NEWS OUTLET, 172 00:05:16,449 --> 00:05:17,016 AS WELL AS A PERPETUAL SOURCE OF 173 00:05:17,083 --> 00:05:18,651 MISINFORMATION ABOUT COVID AND 174 00:05:18,718 --> 00:05:19,619 PLATFORM FOR PILLOW PRINCE MIKE 175 00:05:19,686 --> 00:05:21,320 LINDELL'S ELECTION-FRAUD 176 00:05:21,387 --> 00:05:23,356 DOCUMENTARY "ABSOLUTE PROOF." 177 00:05:23,423 --> 00:05:25,158 AND YES, I AM USING THE WORD 178 00:05:25,224 --> 00:05:26,693 DOCUMENTARY THERE WITH 179 00:05:26,759 --> 00:05:29,195 CHRISTLIKE GENEROSITY. 180 00:05:29,262 --> 00:05:31,431 THIS WAS A BIG WEEK FOR OAN, 181 00:05:31,497 --> 00:05:33,132 ALTHOUGH NOT IN A GOOD WAY, AS 182 00:05:33,199 --> 00:05:35,301 ONE OF THEIR ANCHORS EXPLAINED. 183 00:05:35,368 --> 00:05:36,903 >> COME MONDAY, YOU WILL 184 00:05:36,969 --> 00:05:37,904 NO LONGER SEE ONE AMERICA NEWS 185 00:05:37,970 --> 00:05:41,808 ON A CERTAIN SATELLITE PROVIDER, 186 00:05:41,874 --> 00:05:42,442 WHICH I WILL NOT MENTION BECAUSE 187 00:05:42,508 --> 00:05:43,943 I DON'T EVEN LIKE UTTERING THEIR 188 00:05:44,010 --> 00:05:45,344 NAME OUT OF MY MOUTH. 189 00:05:45,411 --> 00:05:47,413 >> AH, YES, THE HALLMARK 190 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,415 OF A GREAT NEWS NETWORK, 191 00:05:49,482 --> 00:05:52,185 BRINGING YOU HARD HITTING 192 00:05:52,251 --> 00:05:53,219 NEWS STORIES WITHOUT SPECIFICS 193 00:05:53,286 --> 00:05:53,820 BECAUSE THEY MAKE THE ANCHOR 194 00:05:53,886 --> 00:05:55,121 SAD. 195 00:05:55,188 --> 00:05:57,590 JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE PROVIDER 196 00:05:57,657 --> 00:05:59,025 HE'S REFERRING TO IS DIRECT TV, 197 00:05:59,092 --> 00:06:00,993 WHICH IS A SUBSIDIARY OF 198 00:06:01,060 --> 00:06:01,561 A PARENT COMPANY I WILL NOT 199 00:06:01,627 --> 00:06:02,328 MENTION BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN 200 00:06:02,395 --> 00:06:03,196 LIKE UTTERING THEIR NAME 201 00:06:03,262 --> 00:06:05,465 OUT OF MY MOUTH. 202 00:06:05,531 --> 00:06:06,966 INTERESTINGLY, AS OF FRIDAY, 203 00:06:07,033 --> 00:06:09,469 AT&T OFFICIALLY NO LONGER OWNS 204 00:06:09,535 --> 00:06:11,370 US, SO IT'S GOODBYE FROM ME, 205 00:06:11,437 --> 00:06:12,972 BUSINESS DADDY. 206 00:06:13,039 --> 00:06:14,741 LET ME JUST SAY THIS, WHICH IS 207 00:06:14,807 --> 00:06:17,076 FRANKLY TWO MORE BARS THAN 208 00:06:17,143 --> 00:06:20,113 YOU'VE EVER HAD. 209 00:06:20,179 --> 00:06:21,547 AS WE'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, AT&T 210 00:06:21,614 --> 00:06:26,018 WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN OAN'S RISE, 211 00:06:26,085 --> 00:06:26,652 WITH ABOUT 90% OF ITS 212 00:06:26,719 --> 00:06:27,620 REVENUE REPORTEDLY GENERATED 213 00:06:27,687 --> 00:06:28,988 FROM ITS AT&T AND DIRECTV DEALS. 214 00:06:29,055 --> 00:06:29,756 BUT THIS PAST WEEK, OAN WAS 215 00:06:29,822 --> 00:06:32,091 FINALLY DROPPED BY THE PROVIDER, 216 00:06:32,158 --> 00:06:34,527 AND NOT A MOMENT TOO SOON. 217 00:06:34,594 --> 00:06:35,695 ITS COVERAGE OF UKRAINE IN 218 00:06:35,762 --> 00:06:38,898 PARTICULAR HAS BEEN APPALLING, 219 00:06:38,965 --> 00:06:40,500 WITH THIS FUCKING GUY SUGGESTING 220 00:06:40,566 --> 00:06:43,402 THAT THIS BOMBING OF A MATERNITY 221 00:06:43,469 --> 00:06:44,303 HOSPITAL MIGHT HAVE BEEN A HOAX. 222 00:06:44,370 --> 00:06:45,171 >> SO WHAT'S THE MOST RECENT 223 00:06:45,238 --> 00:06:47,073 STORY COOKED UP BY THE AMERICAN 224 00:06:47,140 --> 00:06:49,075 PRAVDA? 225 00:06:49,142 --> 00:06:50,543 WELL, IT TURNS OUT THAT THE 226 00:06:50,610 --> 00:06:52,712 RUSSIANS, DEMOCRATS' FAVORITE 227 00:06:52,779 --> 00:06:54,947 ADVERSARY, BLEW UP A HOSPITAL, 228 00:06:55,014 --> 00:06:55,982 KILLING SEVERAL PEOPLE, 229 00:06:56,048 --> 00:06:58,484 INCLUDING A CHILD. 230 00:06:58,551 --> 00:07:00,586 PERHAPS WAR CRIMES ARE BEING 231 00:07:00,653 --> 00:07:01,587 COMMITTED, PERHAPS CIVILIANS ARE 232 00:07:01,654 --> 00:07:05,124 BEING MURDERED, BUT PERHAPS THEY 233 00:07:05,191 --> 00:07:07,660 AREN'T. 234 00:07:07,727 --> 00:07:11,097 >> WOW, IT'S PRETTY 235 00:07:11,164 --> 00:07:12,999 MADDENING TO WATCH NEO-FACIST 236 00:07:13,065 --> 00:07:13,533 VIN DIESEL THERE QUESTION 237 00:07:13,599 --> 00:07:14,767 CIVILIAN CASUALTIES WITH THE 238 00:07:14,834 --> 00:07:16,102 TONE OF A STONED TEENAGER 239 00:07:16,169 --> 00:07:18,771 TALKING ABOUT PENGUINS. 240 00:07:18,838 --> 00:07:20,306 "PERHAPS THEY'RE WEARING LITTLE 241 00:07:20,373 --> 00:07:23,409 BIRD TUXEDOS, BUT PERHAPS... 242 00:07:23,476 --> 00:07:25,878 THEY AREN'T." 243 00:07:25,945 --> 00:07:27,480 NOW, LOSING DISTRIBUTION ON 244 00:07:27,547 --> 00:07:29,248 DIRECTV IS CLEARLY A BIG BLOW TO 245 00:07:29,315 --> 00:07:31,784 OAN, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING OUT 246 00:07:31,851 --> 00:07:33,085 WITHOUT A FIGHT, AS THEIR OWNERS 247 00:07:33,152 --> 00:07:35,321 ARE CURRENTLY SUING AT&T AND 248 00:07:35,388 --> 00:07:39,425 DIRECT TV FOR $1 BILLION. 249 00:07:39,492 --> 00:07:40,893 CLAIMING AT ONE POINT IN THE 250 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,062 SUIT THAT AT&T BREACHED A 251 00:07:43,129 --> 00:07:44,096 "NON-DISPARAGEMENT PROVISION" IN 252 00:07:44,163 --> 00:07:45,464 THEIR CONTRACT, BECAUSE SHOWS 253 00:07:45,531 --> 00:07:47,266 THE COMPANY OWNED HAD BEEN 254 00:07:47,333 --> 00:07:49,035 CRITICAL OF THEM. 255 00:07:49,101 --> 00:07:51,470 AND HERE'S WHERE THINGS GET FUN. 256 00:07:51,537 --> 00:07:52,305 BECAUSE IT TURNS OUT, WE'RE 257 00:07:52,371 --> 00:07:54,607 ACTUALLY IN THE LAWSUIT. 258 00:07:54,674 --> 00:07:56,042 IT CITES A NUMBER OF THINGS I 259 00:07:56,108 --> 00:07:57,977 SAID ABOUT OAN IN THE PAST, 260 00:07:58,044 --> 00:07:59,779 LIKE THE FACT THEY'RE FOX NEWS 261 00:07:59,846 --> 00:08:01,314 WITH EVEN LESS SHAME AND EVEN 262 00:08:01,380 --> 00:08:02,515 FEWER SCRUPLES AND A RAGTAG 263 00:08:02,582 --> 00:08:05,852 BAND OF FASCISTS WHO ARE HAPPY 264 00:08:05,918 --> 00:08:07,286 TO GIVE A PLATFORM TO BATSHIT 265 00:08:07,353 --> 00:08:08,187 ELECTION FRAUD THEORIES FROM 266 00:08:08,254 --> 00:08:09,989 AMERICA'S MOST OUT-OF-BREATH 267 00:08:10,056 --> 00:08:11,724 PILLOW FETISHIST. 268 00:08:11,791 --> 00:08:13,392 AND WHILE I'M HAPPY TO HAVE SAID 269 00:08:13,459 --> 00:08:15,061 ALL OF THOSE, I CAN'T BELIEVE 270 00:08:15,127 --> 00:08:17,530 THEY LEFT OUT THE FACT THAT I 271 00:08:17,597 --> 00:08:20,733 ALSO CALLED THIS GUY DECAF 272 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:21,834 PITBULL JUST LAST YEAR, AND 273 00:08:21,901 --> 00:08:23,102 FRANKLY, I WANT THAT ENTERED 274 00:08:23,169 --> 00:08:25,838 INTO THE LEGAL RECORD. 275 00:08:25,905 --> 00:08:27,373 AND LOOK, I DO GET THEY'RE 276 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:28,641 UPSET. 277 00:08:28,708 --> 00:08:29,942 JUST AS I GET THEY'RE AN 278 00:08:30,009 --> 00:08:31,110 INTELLECTUALLY BANKRUPT 279 00:08:31,177 --> 00:08:32,245 ORGANIZATION, FULL OF 280 00:08:32,311 --> 00:08:33,179 OPPORTUNISTIC GRIFTERS, WHO'VE 281 00:08:33,246 --> 00:08:33,846 DONE NOTHING BUT MAKE THIS 282 00:08:33,913 --> 00:08:35,481 COUNTRY A WORSE PLACE. 283 00:08:35,548 --> 00:08:36,716 BUT PERHAPS THIS ISN'T THE TIME 284 00:08:36,782 --> 00:08:37,850 FOR THAT. 285 00:08:37,917 --> 00:08:40,319 AND PERHAPS I'M SORRY FOR TAKING 286 00:08:40,386 --> 00:08:41,921 JOY IN THEIR MISFORTUNE AND 287 00:08:41,988 --> 00:08:45,191 KICKING THEM WHEN THEY'RE DOWN. 288 00:08:45,258 --> 00:08:47,360 BUT ON THE OTHER HAND 289 00:08:47,426 --> 00:08:49,795 PERHAPS I'M NOT. 290 00:08:49,862 --> 00:08:55,668 AND NOW THIS. 291 00:08:55,735 --> 00:08:56,702 >> AND NOW THINGS 292 00:08:56,769 --> 00:08:59,739 GET UNCOMFORTABLE ON LOCAL NEWS 293 00:08:59,805 --> 00:09:02,208 THANKS TO A TERRIBLE HOLIDAY. 294 00:09:02,275 --> 00:09:04,377 >> ALLEGEDLY ITS NATIONAL HUG 295 00:09:04,443 --> 00:09:06,245 "E! NEWS" PERSON DAY. 296 00:09:06,312 --> 00:09:06,846 I'M GOOD. 297 00:09:06,913 --> 00:09:08,915 >> I'M GOOD. 298 00:09:08,981 --> 00:09:17,290 >> TODAY IS NATIONAL HUG A NEWS 299 00:09:17,356 --> 00:09:17,823 PERSON DAVE. 300 00:09:17,890 --> 00:09:20,159 >> OR DON'T. 301 00:09:20,226 --> 00:09:23,562 >> JACKIE IS THERE ANYONE YOU 302 00:09:23,629 --> 00:09:25,197 WANT TO GIVE A HUG TOO? 303 00:09:25,264 --> 00:09:28,868 >> I HATE HUG SO MUCH. 304 00:09:28,935 --> 00:09:33,973 I HATE HUGS SO MUCH. 305 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,841 TODAY IS NATIONAL HUG A NEWS 306 00:09:35,908 --> 00:09:36,175 PERSON DAY. 307 00:09:36,242 --> 00:09:39,211 >> DON'T COME UP AND HUG 308 00:09:39,278 --> 00:09:39,478 SOMEBODY. 309 00:09:39,545 --> 00:09:40,813 >> I DON'T KNOW YOU. 310 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:41,948 >> YOU MADE THAT UP. 311 00:09:42,014 --> 00:09:44,417 >> I DID NOT MAKE THAT OUT. 312 00:09:44,483 --> 00:09:47,186 >> WHERE DID YOU FIND IT? 313 00:09:47,253 --> 00:09:48,988 SOME BOGUS WEBSITE? 314 00:09:49,055 --> 00:09:50,389 >> WHAT ARE YOU DOING? 315 00:09:50,456 --> 00:09:54,560 >> I AM WARMING UP MY HUGGING 316 00:09:54,627 --> 00:09:56,562 MUSCLES. 317 00:09:56,629 --> 00:10:01,133 JUSTIN GOT ONE LAST HOUR. 318 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,134 >> MOVING ON. 319 00:10:02,201 --> 00:10:05,705 OUR MAIN STORY TONIGHT CONCERNS 320 00:10:05,771 --> 00:10:07,573 COMPUTERS. 321 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:08,207 THERE'S ONE IN MY HOUSE, ONE IN 322 00:10:08,274 --> 00:10:08,841 MY POCKET AND ONE ON MY WRIST, 323 00:10:08,908 --> 00:10:11,110 AND, FUN FACT, IF THEY ALL BROKE 324 00:10:11,177 --> 00:10:12,678 AT THE SAME TIME, I'D DIE! 325 00:10:12,745 --> 00:10:13,479 MORE SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE GOING 326 00:10:13,546 --> 00:10:14,046 TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT 327 00:10:14,113 --> 00:10:14,680 WE'VE ALL HAD UNSETTLING MOMENTS 328 00:10:14,747 --> 00:10:15,448 WHEN IT BECAME CLEAR THAT OUR 329 00:10:15,514 --> 00:10:16,015 COMPUTER WAS MONITORING OUR 330 00:10:16,082 --> 00:10:16,649 ACTIVITIES A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY 331 00:10:16,716 --> 00:10:18,517 THAN WE MIGHT LIKE. 332 00:10:18,584 --> 00:10:20,853 >> AFTER FINANCIAL PLANNER 333 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,355 ROD LAURENZ OPENED A NEW OFFICE, 334 00:10:22,421 --> 00:10:23,189 HE USED A CREDIT CARD 335 00:10:23,255 --> 00:10:24,290 TO BUY BABY WIPES TO 336 00:10:24,357 --> 00:10:25,758 CLEAN THE PLACE. 337 00:10:25,825 --> 00:10:26,792 HE SAYS AFTER PICKING UP 338 00:10:26,859 --> 00:10:28,194 JUST ONE CANISTER, HE WAS 339 00:10:28,260 --> 00:10:30,229 SHOCKED TO BE BOMBARDED WITH 340 00:10:30,296 --> 00:10:31,964 TARGETED ONLINE ADS FOR OTHER 341 00:10:32,031 --> 00:10:33,799 BABY WIPES AND MORE CHILDREN'S 342 00:10:33,866 --> 00:10:36,168 PRODUCTS, SOMETHING THIS SINGLE 343 00:10:36,235 --> 00:10:37,436 GUY AROUND TOWN SAYS HE'S 344 00:10:37,503 --> 00:10:39,538 DEFINITELY NOT INTERESTED IN, 345 00:10:39,605 --> 00:10:43,376 AT LEAST NOT NOW. 346 00:10:43,442 --> 00:10:44,310 >> YES, IT'S TRUE. 347 00:10:44,377 --> 00:10:44,977 POOR ROD GOT ROPED 348 00:10:45,044 --> 00:10:45,745 INTO THE MODERN UPDATE 349 00:10:45,811 --> 00:10:48,147 OF HEMINGWAY'S CLASSIC STORY. 350 00:10:48,214 --> 00:10:48,414 "FOR SALE. 351 00:10:48,481 --> 00:10:49,582 BABY SHOES. 352 00:10:49,648 --> 00:10:50,816 CLICK HERE." 353 00:10:50,883 --> 00:10:51,417 AND OF COURSE ROD DIDN'T WANT 354 00:10:51,484 --> 00:10:52,084 THAT SHIT. 355 00:10:52,151 --> 00:10:54,153 HE WAS A MAN ABOUT TOWN! 356 00:10:54,220 --> 00:10:55,421 HE WAS ONLY INTERESTED IN THREE 357 00:10:55,488 --> 00:10:56,389 GETTING LAIDS, GETTING 358 00:10:56,455 --> 00:10:57,523 PAIDS, AND ROCKING THE HELL OUT 359 00:10:57,590 --> 00:11:01,327 OF SOME WRAP-AROUND SHADES. 360 00:11:01,394 --> 00:11:02,461 WE'VE ALL FOUND OURSELVES BEING 361 00:11:02,528 --> 00:11:04,096 TARGETED BY ADS FOR SOMETHING 362 00:11:04,163 --> 00:11:05,331 ODDLY SPECIFIC, AND THOUGHT, 363 00:11:05,398 --> 00:11:06,799 "HOW ON EARTH DID THEY KNOW TO 364 00:11:06,866 --> 00:11:08,000 SHOW ME THAT?" 365 00:11:08,067 --> 00:11:09,568 AND TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO TALK 366 00:11:10,903 --> 00:11:13,039 DATA BROKERS. 367 00:11:13,105 --> 00:11:13,639 IT'S A MULTIBILLION-DOLLAR 368 00:11:13,706 --> 00:11:14,740 INDUSTRY, ENCOMPASSING EVERYONE 369 00:11:14,807 --> 00:11:16,709 FROM CREDIT-REPORTING COMPANIES, 370 00:11:16,776 --> 00:11:18,878 TO THESE WEIRD PEOPLE-FINDING 371 00:11:18,944 --> 00:11:20,613 WEBSITES THAT POP UP WHENEVER 372 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:21,714 YOU GOOGLE THE NAME OF YOUR 373 00:11:21,781 --> 00:11:23,649 FRIEND'S SKETCHY NEW BOYFRIEND, 374 00:11:23,716 --> 00:11:24,884 TO THESE NAMES YOU MAY NEVER 375 00:11:24,950 --> 00:11:27,186 HAVE HEARD OF. 376 00:11:27,253 --> 00:11:28,654 BUT WHAT ALL THESE COMPANIES 377 00:11:28,721 --> 00:11:29,922 HAVE IN COMMON IS, THEY COLLECT 378 00:11:29,989 --> 00:11:30,523 YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION AND 379 00:11:30,589 --> 00:11:31,957 THEN RESELL OR SHARE IT WITH 380 00:11:32,024 --> 00:11:33,759 OTHERS. 381 00:11:33,826 --> 00:11:35,094 AS ONE EXPERT PUTS IT, THEY'RE 382 00:11:35,161 --> 00:11:35,928 THE "MIDDLEMEN OF SURVEILLANCE 383 00:11:35,995 --> 00:11:37,797 CAPITALISM." 384 00:11:37,863 --> 00:11:38,297 WHICH SOUNDS LIKE BOTH A 385 00:11:38,364 --> 00:11:41,100 HORRIFIC PROFESSION, AND ALSO, 386 00:11:41,167 --> 00:11:42,401 A B-PLUS JAKE GYLLENHAAL 387 00:11:42,468 --> 00:11:43,836 THRILLER. 388 00:11:43,903 --> 00:11:45,171 HE'S NOT A SPY. 389 00:11:45,237 --> 00:11:45,871 AND HE'S NOT A CIVILIAN. 390 00:11:45,938 --> 00:11:46,705 HE'S... 391 00:11:46,772 --> 00:11:47,840 THE MIDDLE MAN. 392 00:11:47,907 --> 00:11:49,975 AND LADIES? 393 00:11:50,042 --> 00:11:52,511 IN THIS ONE, HE SHOWS TRUNK. 394 00:11:52,578 --> 00:11:54,246 AND LOOK, I KNOW IT'S NOT NEWS 395 00:11:54,313 --> 00:11:55,614 THAT YOU GET TRACKED ONLINE. 396 00:11:55,681 --> 00:11:57,216 IN FACT, ROUGHLY SIX IN TEN U.S. 397 00:11:57,283 --> 00:11:58,984 ADULTS SAY THEY DON'T THINK IT'S 398 00:11:59,051 --> 00:12:00,386 POSSIBLE TO GO THROUGH DAILY 399 00:12:00,453 --> 00:12:01,420 LIFE WITHOUT HAVING DATA 400 00:12:01,487 --> 00:12:02,521 COLLECTED ABOUT THEM BY 401 00:12:02,588 --> 00:12:04,857 COMPANIES OR THE GOVERNMENT. 402 00:12:04,924 --> 00:12:05,458 MAKING FOUR OUT OF TEN U.S. 403 00:12:05,524 --> 00:12:08,861 ADULTS EMBARRASSINGLY WRONG. 404 00:12:08,928 --> 00:12:10,930 BUT THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT THE 405 00:12:10,996 --> 00:12:12,698 CONVENIENCE AND/OR IRRITATION OF 406 00:12:12,765 --> 00:12:13,933 TARGETED ADS. 407 00:12:13,999 --> 00:12:15,568 DATA BROKERS OPERATE IN A 408 00:12:15,634 --> 00:12:17,369 SPRAWLING, UNREGULATED 409 00:12:17,436 --> 00:12:18,137 ECOSYSTEM, WHICH CAN GET VERY 410 00:12:18,204 --> 00:12:21,273 CREEPY VERY FAST. 411 00:12:21,340 --> 00:12:23,109 >> THE MAJOR U.S. RETAILER 412 00:12:23,175 --> 00:12:24,310 OFFICEMAX KNEW NOT ONLY 413 00:12:24,376 --> 00:12:26,045 THAT MIKE SEAY'S DAUGHTER 414 00:12:26,112 --> 00:12:28,314 WAS DEAD BUT HOW SHE DIED. 415 00:12:28,380 --> 00:12:29,648 >> IT SAYS, "MIKE SEAY, 416 00:12:29,715 --> 00:12:31,851 DAUGHTER KILLED IN CAR CRASH 417 00:12:31,917 --> 00:12:33,385 OR CURRENT BUSINESS," 418 00:12:33,452 --> 00:12:35,688 AND THIS IS MY HOME. 419 00:12:35,754 --> 00:12:36,288 WHY WOULD THEY HAVE THAT KIND 420 00:12:36,355 --> 00:12:39,258 OF INFORMATION? 421 00:12:39,325 --> 00:12:40,092 WHY WOULD THEY NEED THAT? 422 00:12:40,159 --> 00:12:44,897 >> RIGHT, AND OBVIOUSLY 423 00:12:44,964 --> 00:12:46,098 THAT'S COMPLETELY APPALLING. 424 00:12:46,165 --> 00:12:47,233 BUT I WILL SAY, I'M NOT THAT 425 00:12:47,299 --> 00:12:48,267 SURPRISED OFFICEMAX WAS BEHIND 426 00:12:48,334 --> 00:12:49,068 THAT, AS THEY ARE CLEARLY NOT 427 00:12:49,135 --> 00:12:51,437 ENTIRELY ON TOP OF THEIR SHIT. 428 00:12:51,504 --> 00:12:52,304 IF YOU GOOGLE OFFICEMAX, 429 00:12:52,371 --> 00:12:53,405 THE "PEOPLE ALSO ASK" QUESTIONS 430 00:12:53,472 --> 00:12:54,640 INCLUDE, AND THIS IS TRUE, 431 00:12:54,707 --> 00:12:55,474 "IS OFFICEMAX THE SAME 432 00:12:55,541 --> 00:12:56,742 AS OFFICE DEPOT?" 433 00:12:56,809 --> 00:12:57,476 "IS OFFICEMAX AND STAPLES 434 00:12:57,543 --> 00:12:58,944 THE SAME?" 435 00:12:59,011 --> 00:13:02,715 AND "DOES OFFICEMAX EXIST?" 436 00:13:02,781 --> 00:13:03,749 THE TRUTH IS, WHEN IT COMES TO 437 00:13:03,816 --> 00:13:05,184 DATA BROKERS, THEY KNOW 438 00:13:05,251 --> 00:13:06,352 SIGNIFICANTLY MORE ABOUT YOU 439 00:13:06,418 --> 00:13:07,853 THAN YOU MIGHT LIKE, AND DO 440 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:08,954 SIGNIFICANTLY MORE WITH IT THAN 441 00:13:09,021 --> 00:13:10,856 YOU MIGHT THINK. 442 00:13:10,923 --> 00:13:12,091 SO TONIGHT LET'S TALK ABOUT THE 443 00:13:12,158 --> 00:13:13,492 WHOLE INDUSTRY. 444 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,027 AND LET'S START WITH HOW YOUR 445 00:13:15,094 --> 00:13:16,395 INFORMATION IS COLLECTED. 446 00:13:16,462 --> 00:13:17,796 BASICALLY EVERY TIME YOU 447 00:13:17,863 --> 00:13:19,431 INTERACT WITH SOCIETY, YOU'RE 448 00:13:19,498 --> 00:13:21,133 LEAVING BREADCRUMBS THAT CAN BE 449 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,035 GATHERED AND SOLD. 450 00:13:23,102 --> 00:13:25,404 AND MUCH OF THIS HAPPENS ONLINE, 451 00:13:25,471 --> 00:13:26,272 THANKS IN LARGE PART TO COOKIES. 452 00:13:26,338 --> 00:13:28,007 COOKIES WERE DEVELOPED IN THE 453 00:13:28,073 --> 00:13:29,675 EARLY DAYS OF THE INTERNET, 454 00:13:29,742 --> 00:13:30,676 AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY ONE OF THE 455 00:13:30,743 --> 00:13:31,610 THINGS THAT MAKE IT SLIGHTLY 456 00:13:31,677 --> 00:13:33,312 BETTER, A DISTINCTION THEY SHARE 457 00:13:33,379 --> 00:13:35,514 WITH HENRY WINKLER'S TWITTER 458 00:13:35,581 --> 00:13:38,484 FEED AND LITERALLY NOTHING ELSE. 459 00:13:38,551 --> 00:13:39,952 WHAT THEY ESSENTIALLY DO IS 460 00:13:40,019 --> 00:13:42,488 ENABLE WEBSITES TO REMEMBER YOU, 461 00:13:42,555 --> 00:13:44,056 THEY'RE WHY AMAZON REMEMBERS 462 00:13:44,123 --> 00:13:45,324 YOU PUT A $106 COMPLETE BOX 463 00:13:45,391 --> 00:13:46,392 SET OF THE MENTALIST IN YOUR 464 00:13:46,458 --> 00:13:48,360 CART AFTER EATING AN 465 00:13:48,427 --> 00:13:49,562 UNEXPECTEDLY STRONG WEED GUMMY, 466 00:13:49,628 --> 00:13:52,031 EVEN IF YOU DON'T. 467 00:13:52,097 --> 00:13:53,065 AND IF THAT'S ALL COOKIES DID, 468 00:13:53,132 --> 00:13:54,967 IT'D BE FINE. 469 00:13:55,034 --> 00:13:56,302 BUT THE PRACTICE GRADUALLY 470 00:13:56,368 --> 00:13:58,103 EVOLVED TO INCLUDE THIRD-PARTY 471 00:13:58,170 --> 00:14:00,506 COOKIES BASICALLY, COMPANIES 472 00:14:00,573 --> 00:14:01,907 OTHER THAN THE SITE THAT YOU'RE 473 00:14:01,974 --> 00:14:03,209 ON, PLANTING A PIECE OF CODE IN 474 00:14:03,275 --> 00:14:05,077 YOUR BROWSER THAT ALLOWS THEM TO 475 00:14:05,144 --> 00:14:06,178 TRACK WHERE ELSE YOU'RE GOING ON 476 00:14:06,245 --> 00:14:07,513 THE INTERNET. 477 00:14:07,580 --> 00:14:08,847 JUST WATCH AS A TECH WRITER 478 00:14:08,914 --> 00:14:10,082 EXPLAINS WHAT THEY FOUND, WHEN 479 00:14:10,149 --> 00:14:11,183 THEY TRIED TO LEARN JUST HOW 480 00:14:11,250 --> 00:14:12,318 MANY COMPANIES WERE TRACKING 481 00:14:12,384 --> 00:14:13,385 THEM. 482 00:14:13,452 --> 00:14:14,386 >> SO I STARTED THE DAY 483 00:14:14,453 --> 00:14:15,788 ON GOOGLE AND DID A SEARCH. 484 00:14:15,854 --> 00:14:16,889 AND NINE TRACKERS 485 00:14:16,956 --> 00:14:17,823 WERE DOWNLOADED 486 00:14:17,890 --> 00:14:19,558 ONTO MY COMPUTER. 487 00:14:19,625 --> 00:14:20,693 >> TRACKERS DO WHAT IT 488 00:14:20,759 --> 00:14:21,126 SOUNDS LIKE THEY DO. 489 00:14:21,193 --> 00:14:22,127 THEY TRACK YOU. 490 00:14:22,194 --> 00:14:24,730 THEY CAN GET MY I.P. ADDRESS 491 00:14:24,797 --> 00:14:26,131 OR THE DEVICE I'M USING 492 00:14:26,198 --> 00:14:27,333 OR THE SCREEN SIZE. 493 00:14:27,399 --> 00:14:28,767 THEY WERE ABLE TO DETERMINE 494 00:14:28,834 --> 00:14:31,003 MY LOCATION VERY PRECISELY. 495 00:14:31,070 --> 00:14:32,504 NEXT, I WENT TO HUFFPO, 496 00:14:32,571 --> 00:14:34,974 AND I WAS SWARMED. 497 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,775 THE TRACKERS KIND OF MULTIPLIED. 498 00:14:36,842 --> 00:14:37,710 THERE WERE DOZENS AND 499 00:14:37,776 --> 00:14:38,310 DOZENS. 500 00:14:38,377 --> 00:14:39,712 AND THEY'RE JUST -- THE TRACKERS 501 00:14:39,778 --> 00:14:41,614 ARE JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, 502 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,015 ON MY HEELS AS I GO AROUND 503 00:14:43,082 --> 00:14:44,083 THE WEB. 504 00:14:44,149 --> 00:14:45,417 >> YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW 505 00:14:45,484 --> 00:14:46,552 ABOUT YOU, BUT I DON'T WANT 506 00:14:46,619 --> 00:14:47,786 A WHOLE CROWD OF STRANGERS 507 00:14:47,853 --> 00:14:48,988 WATCHING WHAT I SEARCH FOR 508 00:14:49,054 --> 00:14:50,489 ON THE INTERNET. 509 00:14:50,556 --> 00:14:51,924 NOT BECAUSE IT'S GROSS, 510 00:14:51,991 --> 00:14:53,359 BECAUSE IT'S PRIVATE. 511 00:14:53,425 --> 00:14:54,360 PRIVATE DOESN'T HAVE TO MEAN 512 00:14:54,426 --> 00:14:54,927 GROSS. 513 00:14:54,994 --> 00:14:56,362 THERE'S NOTHING GROSS ABOUT 514 00:14:56,428 --> 00:14:58,230 LOOKING UP "ARE THERE ANY 515 00:14:58,297 --> 00:14:59,465 SHOWERHEADS WITH 516 00:14:59,531 --> 00:15:01,800 A 'CONTAINS PULP' OPTION?" 517 00:15:01,867 --> 00:15:02,468 I WOULDN'T WANT IT ALL THE TIME, 518 00:15:02,534 --> 00:15:03,102 I WOULDN'T NEED IT 519 00:15:03,168 --> 00:15:04,069 ALL THE TIME. 520 00:15:04,136 --> 00:15:05,838 THAT'S WHY IT'S AN OPTION. 521 00:15:05,904 --> 00:15:07,539 THE OPTION TO HAVE SOME PULP. 522 00:15:07,606 --> 00:15:09,041 IN THE SHOWER. 523 00:15:09,108 --> 00:15:10,643 IT'S -- CAN I FINISH? 524 00:15:10,709 --> 00:15:11,610 IT'S A NORMAL SHOWER MOST OF 525 00:15:11,677 --> 00:15:13,178 THE TIME BUT OCCASIONALLY I'LL 526 00:15:13,245 --> 00:15:14,513 HAVE THE OPTION TO GET PELTED 527 00:15:14,580 --> 00:15:16,015 WITH SOMETHING THAT'S GOT SOME 528 00:15:16,081 --> 00:15:17,950 HEFT TO IT. 529 00:15:18,017 --> 00:15:19,218 JUST SOME WEIGHTED CHUNKS 530 00:15:19,285 --> 00:15:19,518 OF WHATEVER. 531 00:15:19,585 --> 00:15:19,752 THWOOMP. 532 00:15:19,818 --> 00:15:20,152 THWOOMP. 533 00:15:20,219 --> 00:15:21,487 THWOOMP. 534 00:15:21,553 --> 00:15:22,187 SOMETHING TO WAKE ME UP 535 00:15:22,254 --> 00:15:23,122 AND KEEP ME ON MY TOES. 536 00:15:23,188 --> 00:15:25,724 SOMETIMES I NEED IT, 537 00:15:25,791 --> 00:15:26,659 DON'T CLAIM YOU DON'T. 538 00:15:26,725 --> 00:15:27,559 WE'D ALL LOVE TO PRETEND THAT 539 00:15:27,626 --> 00:15:28,994 THE SUN ONLY RISES IN PEACETIME, 540 00:15:29,061 --> 00:15:29,795 BUT THINGS BEING WHAT THEY ARE 541 00:15:29,862 --> 00:15:31,096 WE FIND OURSELVES AGAIN AT WAR 542 00:15:31,163 --> 00:15:32,298 SO, YEAH, START MY DAY 543 00:15:32,364 --> 00:15:32,831 AND ROCK ME WITH SOME 544 00:15:32,898 --> 00:15:33,632 JUICY BITS. 545 00:15:33,699 --> 00:15:35,067 THAT'S WHAT I WANT. 546 00:15:35,134 --> 00:15:36,468 AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE 547 00:15:36,535 --> 00:15:37,569 WATCHING ME WHEN I SEARCH TO 548 00:15:37,636 --> 00:15:38,170 SEE HOW CLOSE WE ARE TO THAT 549 00:15:38,237 --> 00:15:40,239 TECHNOLOGY EXISTING. 550 00:15:40,306 --> 00:15:42,841 BECAUSE IT'S PRIVATE. 551 00:15:42,908 --> 00:15:44,743 BUT DATA BROKERS OFTEN TAKE ALL 552 00:15:44,810 --> 00:15:46,412 THE BREADCRUMBS THEY'VE GATHERED 553 00:15:46,478 --> 00:15:47,880 ABOUT YOU, PAIR THEM WITH OTHER 554 00:15:47,946 --> 00:15:50,215 DATA THEY CAN OBTAIN, AND THEN 555 00:15:50,282 --> 00:15:53,118 SHARE ALL OF IT WITH BUSINESSES 556 00:15:53,185 --> 00:15:53,652 WHO WANT TO MARKET TO YOU. 557 00:15:53,719 --> 00:15:54,119 AND THEY'LL FRAME THIS 558 00:15:54,186 --> 00:15:55,554 AS A WIN-WIN. 559 00:15:55,621 --> 00:15:56,855 HERE'S HOW EPSILON, ONE OF THE 560 00:15:56,922 --> 00:15:57,623 BIGGEST DATA-BROKER FIRMS, 561 00:15:57,690 --> 00:16:00,092 POSITIONS ITSELF. 562 00:16:00,159 --> 00:16:01,493 >> THIS IS A PERSON. 563 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:02,828 SO IS THIS. 564 00:16:02,895 --> 00:16:03,929 HERE'S ANOTHER. 565 00:16:03,996 --> 00:16:05,264 AND ANOTHER. 566 00:16:05,331 --> 00:16:05,898 THEY ALL LOOK AND ACT 567 00:16:05,964 --> 00:16:07,666 DIFFERENT BUT PEOPLE ARE 568 00:16:07,733 --> 00:16:09,368 FUNDAMENTALLY THE SAME. 569 00:16:09,435 --> 00:16:11,036 THEY ALL WANT RESPECT, 570 00:16:11,103 --> 00:16:12,004 PROTECTION, AND AN EASIER TIME 571 00:16:12,071 --> 00:16:13,138 GETTING THE THINGS 572 00:16:13,205 --> 00:16:14,206 THEY NEED FROM BRANDS. 573 00:16:14,273 --> 00:16:15,040 >> RIGHT! 574 00:16:15,107 --> 00:16:17,109 THE BIG THREE! 575 00:16:17,176 --> 00:16:18,677 IT'S ALL IN MASLOW'S FAMOUS 576 00:16:18,744 --> 00:16:19,978 HIERARCHY OF NEEDS, PEOPLE WANT 577 00:16:20,045 --> 00:16:21,613 THEIR PHYSIOLOGICAL NEEDS MET, 578 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,282 THEIR SAFETY ACCOUNTED FOR AND 579 00:16:23,349 --> 00:16:25,351 THEIR SEARCH HISTORY HANDED OVER 580 00:16:25,417 --> 00:16:27,786 DIRECTLY TO THE AFLAC DUCK. 581 00:16:27,853 --> 00:16:29,054 EPSILON'S AD EVEN GOES ON TO 582 00:16:29,121 --> 00:16:30,322 SHOW HOW THAT PARTICULAR SERVICE 583 00:16:30,389 --> 00:16:31,690 OF THEIRS WORKS, DEMONSTRATING 584 00:16:31,757 --> 00:16:32,691 HOW THEY CAN CREATE 585 00:16:32,758 --> 00:16:34,026 A CLIENT ID FOR SOMEONE 586 00:16:34,093 --> 00:16:35,294 THAT CONTAINS EVERYTHING 587 00:16:35,361 --> 00:16:35,894 THEY KNOW ABOUT THEM, 588 00:16:35,961 --> 00:16:37,162 LIKE THE FACT THEY'RE A VEGAN 589 00:16:37,229 --> 00:16:39,598 AND MAKE $45,000 TO $50,000 590 00:16:39,665 --> 00:16:41,633 A YEAR, OR THAT THEY'RE 591 00:16:41,700 --> 00:16:43,202 A 41-YEAR-OLD MALE WHO'S MARRIED 592 00:16:43,268 --> 00:16:44,470 WITH KIDS AT HOME AND IS 593 00:16:44,536 --> 00:16:45,938 GOOGLING "SNOW GLOBE STUCK IN 594 00:16:46,004 --> 00:16:48,874 BUTT, WHAT TO DO?" 595 00:16:48,941 --> 00:16:50,042 AND ONCE COMPANIES LIKE EPSILON 596 00:16:50,109 --> 00:16:51,610 COLLECT ENOUGH INFORMATION ABOUT 597 00:16:51,677 --> 00:16:53,245 YOU, THEY CAN SORT YOU INTO 598 00:16:53,312 --> 00:16:54,913 GROUPS. 599 00:16:54,980 --> 00:16:57,383 DATA BROKER FIRMS SELL LISTS 600 00:16:57,449 --> 00:16:58,517 WITH NAMES LIKE "COUPLES WITH 601 00:16:58,584 --> 00:16:59,752 CLOUT," "AMBITIOUS SINGLES," 602 00:16:59,818 --> 00:17:01,453 "BOOMERS AND BOOMERANGS," 603 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:02,221 "POTLUCKS AND THE GREAT 604 00:17:02,287 --> 00:17:03,822 OUTDOORS," "GOLF CARTS AND 605 00:17:03,889 --> 00:17:04,490 GOURMETS," AND "KIDS AND 606 00:17:04,556 --> 00:17:13,599 CABERNET." 607 00:17:13,665 --> 00:17:14,500 THOSE ARE ALL BOTH "REAL NAMES" 608 00:17:14,566 --> 00:17:15,134 OF GROUPS MADE BY DATA BROKERS 609 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:15,501 "AND" AS OF NOW 610 00:17:15,567 --> 00:17:16,068 IMMEDIATELY-GREENLIT SHOWS 611 00:17:16,135 --> 00:17:18,604 ON TLC. 612 00:17:18,670 --> 00:17:19,605 LOOK, YOU MIGHT NOT CARE IF A 613 00:17:19,671 --> 00:17:20,539 COMPANY WANTS TO TOSS YOUR DATA 614 00:17:20,606 --> 00:17:21,440 IN A GROUP CALLED "KIDS AND 615 00:17:21,507 --> 00:17:23,709 CABERNET" SO THEY CAN MORE 616 00:17:23,776 --> 00:17:25,778 EFFECTIVELY SEND YOU ADS THAT 617 00:17:25,844 --> 00:17:27,713 MAKE YOU SEEM LIKE A BAD MOM IN 618 00:17:27,780 --> 00:17:29,314 A FUN WAY, BUT THERE'S ALSO 619 00:17:29,381 --> 00:17:34,887 A DARK SIDE HERE. 620 00:17:34,953 --> 00:17:36,155 BECAUSE SOME COMPANIES CAN AND 621 00:17:36,221 --> 00:17:37,322 DO DRAW UP EVEN MORE NARROWLY 622 00:17:37,389 --> 00:17:38,257 TARGETED LISTS -- LIKE PEOPLE 623 00:17:38,323 --> 00:17:39,024 WITH CERTAIN AILMENTS, OR SEXUAL 624 00:17:39,091 --> 00:17:39,591 PREFERENCES -- AND THEN SELL 625 00:17:39,658 --> 00:17:40,893 THOSE LISTS TO ANYONE WHO WANTS 626 00:17:40,959 --> 00:17:43,028 TO BUY THEM. 627 00:17:43,095 --> 00:17:44,229 AND WHAT THEY CAN BUY IS PRETTY 628 00:17:44,296 --> 00:17:45,798 TROUBLING. 629 00:17:45,864 --> 00:17:49,067 >> WRAL BOUGHT THOUSANDS OF 630 00:17:49,134 --> 00:17:49,635 NAMES AND ADDRESSES OF LOCAL 631 00:17:49,701 --> 00:17:51,036 PEOPLE WITH SERIOUS ILLNESSES. 632 00:17:51,103 --> 00:17:53,205 THIS GROUP LIVING IN THE 633 00:17:53,272 --> 00:17:55,641 26707 ZIP CODE HAVE DIABETES. 634 00:17:55,707 --> 00:17:57,843 THESE PEOPLE IN 26708 HAVE 635 00:17:57,910 --> 00:18:03,115 CANCER. 636 00:18:03,182 --> 00:18:04,082 THESE RESIDENTS OF 27609 637 00:18:04,149 --> 00:18:05,017 HAVE HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE. 638 00:18:05,083 --> 00:18:05,517 AND ALL OF THESE LOCALS 639 00:18:05,584 --> 00:18:07,319 BATTLE DEPRESSION. 640 00:18:07,386 --> 00:18:09,288 THIS LIST IS MOMS-TO-BE. 641 00:18:09,354 --> 00:18:10,622 >> SO, WE BOUGHT THIS DATA 642 00:18:10,689 --> 00:18:11,990 AND IT TELLS US YOU'RE PREGNANT. 643 00:18:12,057 --> 00:18:13,759 >> YES. 644 00:18:13,826 --> 00:18:15,360 >> AND YOU ARE? 645 00:18:15,427 --> 00:18:15,894 >> I AM. 646 00:18:15,961 --> 00:18:18,597 I AM 18 WEEKS. 647 00:18:18,664 --> 00:18:21,066 >> THAT'S PRETTY CREEPY. 648 00:18:21,133 --> 00:18:22,067 ISN'T IT? 649 00:18:22,134 --> 00:18:23,202 I HONESTLY DID NOT THINK THERE 650 00:18:23,268 --> 00:18:23,802 COULD BE A WORSE THING TO ASK 651 00:18:23,869 --> 00:18:24,403 A WOMAN YOU DON'T KNOW THAN 652 00:18:24,470 --> 00:18:25,304 'ARE YOU PREGNANT?' 653 00:18:25,370 --> 00:18:26,371 BUT "YOU ARE PREGNANT, 654 00:18:26,438 --> 00:18:27,272 WANNA KNOW WHO I PAID 655 00:18:27,339 --> 00:18:27,940 TO FIND OUT?" 656 00:18:28,006 --> 00:18:30,709 HAS CERTAINLY ENTERED THE CHAT. 657 00:18:30,776 --> 00:18:31,643 AND IF YOU'RE THINKING, 658 00:18:31,710 --> 00:18:32,644 "BUT THAT'S ILLEGAL UNDER HIPAA, 659 00:18:32,711 --> 00:18:33,145 RIGHT?" 660 00:18:33,212 --> 00:18:34,012 WELL, NO. 661 00:18:34,079 --> 00:18:35,314 AS ONE RESEARCHER POINTED OUT, 662 00:18:35,380 --> 00:18:36,915 THE MEDICAL INFORMATION YOU 663 00:18:36,982 --> 00:18:38,517 RELAY TO YOUR PHYSICIAN IS 664 00:18:38,584 --> 00:18:41,019 HIGHLY PROTECTED, BUT IF YOU GO 665 00:18:41,086 --> 00:18:42,488 TO A MEDICAL WEBSITE AND SEARCH 666 00:18:42,554 --> 00:18:44,490 FOR TERMS LIKE HIV OR 667 00:18:44,556 --> 00:18:45,924 ABORTION, THAT INFORMATION IS 668 00:18:45,991 --> 00:18:48,694 NOT PROTECTED AT ALL. 669 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,028 IT'S A SYSTEM THAT SEEMS RIPE 670 00:18:50,095 --> 00:18:52,097 FOR ABUSE, BEFORE YOU LEARN SOME 671 00:18:52,164 --> 00:19:03,575 DATA BROKERS HAVE OFFERED LISTS 672 00:19:03,642 --> 00:19:06,044 SUFFERING SENIORS 673 00:19:06,111 --> 00:19:06,578 PAYDAY LOAN CENTRAL -- 674 00:19:06,645 --> 00:19:08,347 HISPANIC, 675 00:19:08,413 --> 00:19:09,414 OR EVEN HELP NEEDED, I AM 90 676 00:19:09,481 --> 00:19:10,349 DAYS BEHIND ON BILLS. 677 00:19:10,415 --> 00:19:11,083 AND SOME IN THE INDUSTRY WILL 678 00:19:11,149 --> 00:19:11,850 INSIST THEY'D NEVER PUT PEOPLE 679 00:19:11,917 --> 00:19:12,751 AT RISK BY SELLING THEIR DATA. 680 00:19:12,818 --> 00:19:13,519 REMEMBER EPSILON, THE COMPANY 681 00:19:13,585 --> 00:19:14,152 THAT COLLECTS CLOUDS OF 682 00:19:14,219 --> 00:19:14,753 INFORMATION ABOUT YOU? 683 00:19:14,820 --> 00:19:15,521 IN 2014, THEIR THEN CEO EVEN 684 00:19:15,587 --> 00:19:17,155 WENT ON "60 MINUTES," 685 00:19:17,222 --> 00:19:17,723 TO REASSURE PEOPLE THAT HIS 686 00:19:17,789 --> 00:19:20,592 BUSINESS, IN PARTICULAR, 687 00:19:20,659 --> 00:19:21,360 OPERATED IN A COMPLETELY 688 00:19:21,426 --> 00:19:22,728 ABOVE-BOARD MANNER. 689 00:19:22,794 --> 00:19:23,762 >> IF THERE ARE ABUSES OUT 690 00:19:23,829 --> 00:19:25,097 THERE, WE DON'T BELIEVE THOSE 691 00:19:25,163 --> 00:19:26,398 HAPPEN WITHIN OUR COMPANY. 692 00:19:26,465 --> 00:19:27,332 AND WE WOULD BE THE FIRST TO 693 00:19:27,399 --> 00:19:28,000 RAISE OUR HAND. 694 00:19:28,066 --> 00:19:29,568 >> OH, REALLY? 695 00:19:29,635 --> 00:19:31,703 YOU'D BE THE FIRST TO RAISE YOUR 696 00:19:31,770 --> 00:19:32,070 HAND, WOULD YOU? 697 00:19:32,137 --> 00:19:35,607 THAT'S INTERESTING. 698 00:19:35,674 --> 00:19:36,975 ESPECIALLY BECAUSE LAST YEAR, 699 00:19:37,042 --> 00:19:38,010 EPSILON SETTLED WITH THE DOJ FOR 700 00:19:38,076 --> 00:19:39,444 $150 MILLION FOR FACILITATING 701 00:19:39,511 --> 00:19:40,846 ELDER FRAUD SCHEMES, AFTER 702 00:19:40,913 --> 00:19:43,048 ADMITTING THAT IT SOLD MORE THAN 703 00:19:43,115 --> 00:19:44,650 30 MILLION CONSUMERS' DATA TO 704 00:19:44,716 --> 00:19:46,985 CLIENTS WHO EMPLOYEES KNEW WERE 705 00:19:47,052 --> 00:19:48,353 CARRYING OUT SCAMS. 706 00:19:48,420 --> 00:19:48,887 AND THEY WERE DOING IT FOR 707 00:19:48,954 --> 00:19:49,521 NEARLY A DECADE. 708 00:19:49,588 --> 00:19:50,589 SO I GUESS THAT GUY REALLY 709 00:19:50,656 --> 00:19:52,591 SHOULD'VE BEEN DOING THAT ENTIRE 710 00:19:52,658 --> 00:19:53,392 INTERVIEW WITH HIS 711 00:19:53,458 --> 00:19:56,328 FUCKING HAND IN THE AIR. 712 00:19:56,395 --> 00:19:57,162 AND AT THIS POINT, YOU MAY BE 713 00:19:57,229 --> 00:19:59,731 THINKING, "OKAY. 714 00:19:59,798 --> 00:20:00,599 I THINK I GET IT. 715 00:20:00,666 --> 00:20:01,500 I'M SUFFICIENTLY CREEPED OUT, 716 00:20:01,567 --> 00:20:02,100 THERE IS NOTHING MORE YOU NEED 717 00:20:02,167 --> 00:20:04,236 TO TELL ME." 718 00:20:04,303 --> 00:20:06,171 HOLD ON. 719 00:20:06,238 --> 00:20:07,105 WHAT ABOUT THE FACT THAT 720 00:20:07,172 --> 00:20:08,173 APPS ON YOUR PHONE CAN GIVE AWAY 721 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:08,941 YOUR EXACT LOCATION TO THIRD 722 00:20:09,007 --> 00:20:09,541 PARTIES, SOMETIMES WITHOUT YOU 723 00:20:09,608 --> 00:20:13,078 KNOWING IT? 724 00:20:13,145 --> 00:20:14,179 THIS FREE FLASHLIGHT APP SETTLED 725 00:20:14,246 --> 00:20:15,113 WITH THE FTC FOR DOING JUST 726 00:20:15,180 --> 00:20:16,515 THAT. 727 00:20:16,582 --> 00:20:18,183 AND THEY'RE NOT ALONE. 728 00:20:18,250 --> 00:20:19,751 TAKE LIFE 360, AN APP GIVING 729 00:20:19,818 --> 00:20:21,119 FAMILIES THE OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP 730 00:20:21,186 --> 00:20:22,754 TRACK OF ONE ANOTHER. 731 00:20:22,821 --> 00:20:24,122 YOU MAY'VE SEEN THEIR ADS 732 00:20:24,189 --> 00:20:25,457 FEATURING PARENTS LOOKING 733 00:20:25,524 --> 00:20:26,959 RELIEVED BECAUSE THEY CAN SEE 734 00:20:27,025 --> 00:20:28,827 WHERE THEIR KIDS ARE GOING AND 735 00:20:28,894 --> 00:20:30,329 KNOW WHEN THEY'VE SAFELY REACHED 736 00:20:30,395 --> 00:20:32,698 THEIR DESTINATION. 737 00:20:32,764 --> 00:20:33,632 WELL, GUESS WHAT? 738 00:20:33,699 --> 00:20:35,133 >> A NEW REPORT FROM THE WEBSITE 739 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,702 THE MARKUP SAYS THAT LIFE360 740 00:20:36,768 --> 00:20:37,469 SELLS ITS LOCATION DATA TO ABOUT 741 00:20:37,536 --> 00:20:38,236 A DOZEN DIFFERENT BROKERS 742 00:20:38,303 --> 00:20:38,904 WHO THEN SELL IT 743 00:20:38,971 --> 00:20:42,574 TO MARKETERS. 744 00:20:42,641 --> 00:20:43,609 >> YEAH, IT TURNS OUT THEY 745 00:20:43,675 --> 00:20:45,177 WERE SELLING LOCATION DATA TO 746 00:20:45,243 --> 00:20:46,912 AROUND TWELVE DIFFERENT BROKERS. 747 00:20:46,979 --> 00:20:48,547 IT'S LIKE THOSE OLD COMMERCIALS. 748 00:20:48,614 --> 00:20:49,214 IT'00. 749 00:20:49,281 --> 00:20:49,881 DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR CHILDREN 750 00:20:49,948 --> 00:20:53,018 ARE? 751 00:20:53,085 --> 00:20:56,622 'CAUSE IF SO, SAME. 752 00:20:56,688 --> 00:20:57,556 AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU LIFE360 753 00:20:57,623 --> 00:20:58,824 INSISTS THEY'RE NO LONGER DOING 754 00:20:58,890 --> 00:21:00,325 THAT, AND THAT ANYWAY, THEY'D 755 00:21:00,392 --> 00:21:01,994 "DE-IDENTIFIED" THEIR USERS' 756 00:21:02,060 --> 00:21:03,328 DATA BEFORE SELLING IT. 757 00:21:03,395 --> 00:21:05,230 THAT LAST CLAIM IS ACTUALLY VERY 758 00:21:05,297 --> 00:21:06,632 COMMON AMONG BOTH DATA BROKERS 759 00:21:06,698 --> 00:21:08,000 AND THE COMPANIES THEY WORK 760 00:21:08,066 --> 00:21:09,334 WITH, AND IT'S WORTH TAKING 761 00:21:09,401 --> 00:21:10,469 A LOOK AT. 762 00:21:10,535 --> 00:21:13,105 BUT WHILE IT SOUNDS REASSURING, 763 00:21:13,171 --> 00:21:14,506 THE TRUTH IS, IT CAN BE 764 00:21:14,573 --> 00:21:15,507 INCREDIBLY EASY TO FIND OUT 765 00:21:15,574 --> 00:21:17,976 WHO'S BEHIND A NUMBER OR A CODE. 766 00:21:18,043 --> 00:21:19,544 ONE TEAM OF RESEARCHERS EVEN 767 00:21:19,611 --> 00:21:22,180 FOUND THAT 99.98% OF AMERICANS 768 00:21:22,247 --> 00:21:24,549 WOULD BE CORRECTLY RE-IDENTIFIED 769 00:21:24,616 --> 00:21:26,952 IN ANY DATA SET USING JUST 770 00:21:27,019 --> 00:21:28,553 15 DEMOGRAPHIC ATTRIBUTES, AMONG 771 00:21:28,620 --> 00:21:29,388 THEM AGE, GENDER, AND MARITAL 772 00:21:29,454 --> 00:21:31,423 STATUS. 773 00:21:31,490 --> 00:21:32,891 AND THE EASE OF DE-ANONYMIZING 774 00:21:32,958 --> 00:21:33,692 DATA IS SOMETHING WE'VE ACTUALLY 775 00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:36,495 KNOWN ABOUT FOR YEARS. 776 00:21:36,561 --> 00:21:37,696 >> IN 2006, AOL TURNED OVER A 777 00:21:37,763 --> 00:21:39,531 BUNCH OF THESE ANONYMIZED SEARCH 778 00:21:39,598 --> 00:21:40,132 RECORDS OF THEIR USERS TO THE 779 00:21:40,198 --> 00:21:41,633 PUBLIC, AND IT ONLY TOOK A FEW 780 00:21:41,700 --> 00:21:43,201 SHORT HOURS FOR A REPORTER TO 781 00:21:43,268 --> 00:21:46,038 DECODE WHO USER NUMBER NUMBER 782 00:21:46,104 --> 00:21:48,306 4417749 WAS. 783 00:21:48,373 --> 00:21:49,641 BETWEEN SEARCHES FOR THINGS 784 00:21:49,708 --> 00:21:50,409 LIKE NUMB FINGERS, 60s SINGLE 785 00:21:50,475 --> 00:21:51,643 MEN, AND DOG THAT URINATES 786 00:21:51,710 --> 00:21:53,178 ON EVERYTHING, THE REPORTER 787 00:21:53,245 --> 00:21:54,379 UNCOVERED A WOMAN NAMED 788 00:21:54,446 --> 00:21:55,981 THELMA ARNOLD. 789 00:21:56,048 --> 00:21:57,449 SHE WAS AGE 62. 790 00:21:57,516 --> 00:21:59,618 >> OKAY, I'M NOT SAYING 791 00:21:59,685 --> 00:22:00,886 IT'S AT ALL PLEASANT THAT THAT 792 00:22:00,952 --> 00:22:01,753 HAPPENED, BUT FOR THE RECORD 793 00:22:01,820 --> 00:22:03,055 I AM GLAD THAT IT INTRODUCED ME 794 00:22:03,121 --> 00:22:05,257 TO THELMA ARNOLD. 795 00:22:05,323 --> 00:22:07,325 BECAUSE I LOVE THAT WOMAN. 796 00:22:07,392 --> 00:22:08,860 SHE HASN'T GIVEN UP DESPITE HER 797 00:22:08,927 --> 00:22:10,228 NUMB FINGERS, LACKLUSTER LOVE 798 00:22:10,295 --> 00:22:13,065 LIFE, AND UTTERLY BROKEN DOG. 799 00:22:13,131 --> 00:22:14,766 NONE OF THAT'S STOPPING HER FROM 800 00:22:14,833 --> 00:22:15,834 SHOOTING HER SHOT AND LOOKING 801 00:22:15,901 --> 00:22:18,637 FOR SINGLE MEN IN HER AREA. 802 00:22:18,704 --> 00:22:19,471 WE STAN A MIDDLE-AGED QUEEN WITH 803 00:22:19,538 --> 00:22:21,840 STAMINA. 804 00:22:21,907 --> 00:22:26,712 AS WE LOOKED INTO THIS STORY, WE 805 00:22:26,778 --> 00:22:27,913 CONSTANTLY GOT REMINDERS THAT 806 00:22:27,979 --> 00:22:29,014 NONE OF US ARE REALLY ANONYMOUS 807 00:22:29,081 --> 00:22:29,347 ONLINE. 808 00:22:29,414 --> 00:22:29,948 AT ONE POINT, A RESEARCHER 809 00:22:30,015 --> 00:22:30,615 CLICKED ON THIS COMPANY'S 810 00:22:30,682 --> 00:22:31,850 WEBSITE -- DIDN'T DO ANYTHING 811 00:22:31,917 --> 00:22:32,751 ELSE, JUST WENT THERE ON HIS 812 00:22:32,818 --> 00:22:34,753 BROWSER -- AD LATER THAT DAY, 813 00:22:34,820 --> 00:22:36,488 GOT THIS EMAIL, SAYING THEY KNEW 814 00:22:36,555 --> 00:22:38,223 HE VISITED, AND THAT, "WE OFFER 815 00:22:38,290 --> 00:22:39,858 A PRETTY COOL SERVICE CALLED 816 00:22:39,925 --> 00:22:41,860 WEBSITE VISITOR IDENTIFICATION, 817 00:22:41,927 --> 00:22:42,627 WHICH HELPS BRANDS IDENTIFY 818 00:22:42,694 --> 00:22:44,596 WHO'S BROWSING THEIR WEBSITE. 819 00:22:44,663 --> 00:22:46,631 IN FACT, IT'S HOW WE KNEW HOW TO 820 00:22:46,698 --> 00:22:49,267 SEND YOU THIS QUICK EMAIL!" 821 00:22:49,334 --> 00:22:49,868 WHICH IS JUST OBJECTIVELY 822 00:22:49,935 --> 00:22:51,269 UNSETTLING. 823 00:22:51,336 --> 00:22:53,138 I DON'T WANT ANYONE TRACKING 824 00:22:53,205 --> 00:22:54,473 WHAT MY STAFF MEMBERS ARE DOING 825 00:22:54,539 --> 00:22:56,041 ONLINE, MAINLY BECAUSE I DON'T 826 00:22:56,108 --> 00:22:57,542 WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY OF THEM 827 00:22:57,609 --> 00:22:59,377 HAVE LOOKED UP "WHAT IS JOHN 828 00:22:59,444 --> 00:23:01,713 OLIVER LIKE?" 829 00:23:01,780 --> 00:23:03,715 AND IT'S NOT LIKE DATA BROKERS 830 00:23:03,782 --> 00:23:05,350 ARE SUPER-CAREFUL ABOUT WHO GETS 831 00:23:05,417 --> 00:23:07,519 YOUR SENSITIVE INFORMATION. 832 00:23:07,586 --> 00:23:08,720 YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN A LOCAL NEWS 833 00:23:08,787 --> 00:23:11,356 STATION AMBUSH A PREGNANT WOMAN. 834 00:23:11,423 --> 00:23:13,425 AND A FEW YEARS AGO, CBS BOUGHT 835 00:23:13,492 --> 00:23:15,527 SOME LOCATION DATA FROM BROKERS 836 00:23:15,594 --> 00:23:17,596 AND IT DIDN'T TAKE MUCH FOR THEM 837 00:23:17,662 --> 00:23:19,064 TO FIND OUT WHOSE IT WAS, WHERE 838 00:23:19,131 --> 00:23:20,999 THEY LIVED, AND WHAT THEY WERE 839 00:23:21,066 --> 00:23:21,666 DOING. 840 00:23:21,733 --> 00:23:22,601 >> NO NAMES OR PHONE NUMBERS 841 00:23:22,667 --> 00:23:24,369 WERE TIED TO THE DATA, BUT IT 842 00:23:24,436 --> 00:23:25,971 WAS EASY TO FIGURE OUT WHO 843 00:23:26,037 --> 00:23:26,972 EACH PHONE BELONGS TO BASED ON 844 00:23:27,038 --> 00:23:27,906 WHERE THEY SPEND THEIR NIGHTS 845 00:23:27,973 --> 00:23:29,708 HERE IN GREENWICH. 846 00:23:29,775 --> 00:23:31,209 ONE PHONE PINGED IN THE MORNING 847 00:23:31,276 --> 00:23:33,612 INSIDE A $7 MILLION MANSION. 848 00:23:33,678 --> 00:23:34,746 THE PERSON THEN VISITED 849 00:23:34,813 --> 00:23:36,481 A COUNTRY CLUB BEFORE HEADING 850 00:23:36,548 --> 00:23:38,717 DOWNTOWN AND RETURNING HOME. 851 00:23:38,784 --> 00:23:39,384 >> YEAH, THAT DOESN'T FEEL 852 00:23:39,451 --> 00:23:40,852 GREAT, DOES IT? 853 00:23:40,919 --> 00:23:42,854 ALTHOUGH THAT PARTICULAR EXAMPLE 854 00:23:42,921 --> 00:23:44,923 ISN'T THAT SURPRISING. 855 00:23:44,990 --> 00:23:45,490 IF YOU TOLD ME AN INDIVIDUAL 856 00:23:45,557 --> 00:23:47,359 WOKE UP IN A $7 MILLION MANSION 857 00:23:47,425 --> 00:23:48,760 IN GREENWICH, CONNECTICUT, AND 858 00:23:48,827 --> 00:23:49,394 MADE ME GUESS WHERE THEY WENT 859 00:23:49,461 --> 00:23:50,362 NEXT, I'D HAVE GONE WITH, 860 00:23:50,428 --> 00:23:55,233 "I DUNNO, A COUNTRY CLUB, 861 00:23:55,300 --> 00:23:56,268 DOWNTOWN TO HUNT HUMANS FOR 862 00:23:56,334 --> 00:23:57,803 SPORT, AND THEN HOME AGAIN." 863 00:23:57,869 --> 00:23:59,137 AND I'D BE PRETTY SURE I WAS 864 00:23:59,204 --> 00:24:01,039 RIGHT. 865 00:24:01,106 --> 00:24:01,640 AND THE THING IS, THAT KIND OF 866 00:24:01,706 --> 00:24:03,074 IDENTIFYING INFORMATION CAN 867 00:24:03,141 --> 00:24:04,843 CAUSE HUGE PROBLEMS. 868 00:24:04,910 --> 00:24:06,378 JUST LAST YEAR A PRIEST WAS 869 00:24:06,444 --> 00:24:08,013 FORCED TO RESIGN AFTER A 870 00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:09,414 CATHOLIC NEWSLETTER SAID IT USED 871 00:24:09,481 --> 00:24:11,483 APP DATA SIGNALS FROM GRINDR TO 872 00:24:11,550 --> 00:24:13,285 MONITOR HIS ACTIVITY, AND 873 00:24:13,351 --> 00:24:13,919 MATCHING HIS PHONE TO HIS 874 00:24:13,985 --> 00:24:15,787 RESIDENCE, ESSENTIALLY OUTING 875 00:24:15,854 --> 00:24:17,923 HIM, WHICH IS A MASSIVE, HARMFUL 876 00:24:17,989 --> 00:24:19,291 INVASION OF PRIVACY, AND 877 00:24:19,357 --> 00:24:21,359 DEFINITELY THE WORST SCANDAL 878 00:24:21,426 --> 00:24:25,096 EVER TO HIT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. 879 00:24:25,163 --> 00:24:26,298 ALSO, QUICK SIDE NOTE HERE. 880 00:24:26,364 --> 00:24:27,265 CATHOLIC CHURCH, ARE YOU 881 00:24:27,332 --> 00:24:28,967 ABSOLUTELY SURE JESUS WAS 882 00:24:29,034 --> 00:24:30,735 HOMOPHOBIC? 883 00:24:30,802 --> 00:24:31,870 THINK ABOUT IT. 884 00:24:31,937 --> 00:24:32,737 HE HAD MUTUALLY RESPECTFUL 885 00:24:32,804 --> 00:24:33,839 FRIENDSHIPS WITH WOMEN, 886 00:24:33,905 --> 00:24:35,140 A DISTANT RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS 887 00:24:35,207 --> 00:24:37,642 FATHER, AND WHEN HE FOUND OUT HE 888 00:24:37,709 --> 00:24:38,176 WAS GOING TO BE BETRAYED, 889 00:24:38,243 --> 00:24:39,010 HE INVITED EVERYONE TO 890 00:24:39,077 --> 00:24:41,847 A CONFRONTATIONAL DINNER. 891 00:24:41,913 --> 00:24:43,081 IT MIGHT BE WORTH RE-EXAMINING 892 00:24:43,148 --> 00:24:44,916 YOUR THESIS. 893 00:24:46,518 --> 00:24:47,586 "I DON'T CARE ABOUT THIS. 894 00:24:47,652 --> 00:24:49,487 MY LIFE'S AN OPEN BOOK, I HAVE 895 00:24:49,554 --> 00:24:50,555 NO SECRETS, SO DATA BROKERS CAN 896 00:24:50,622 --> 00:24:52,257 HAVE AT IT." 897 00:24:52,324 --> 00:24:54,793 EVEN IF THAT'S TRUE FOR YOU, 898 00:24:54,860 --> 00:24:56,528 CONSIDER THERE ARE OTHERS OUT 899 00:24:56,595 --> 00:24:57,829 THERE WHO MIGHT HAVE VERY GOOD 900 00:24:57,896 --> 00:25:00,832 REASONS TO NOT WANT TO BE FOUND. 901 00:25:00,899 --> 00:25:01,433 >> DONNA IS A DOMESTIC 902 00:25:01,499 --> 00:25:02,767 VIOLENCE VICTIM. 903 00:25:02,834 --> 00:25:04,302 WE'RE PROTECTING HER IDENTITY. 904 00:25:04,369 --> 00:25:05,370 ONE OF HER ADDRESSES CAME UP 905 00:25:05,437 --> 00:25:07,138 ON A DATA BROKER SITE. 906 00:25:07,205 --> 00:25:09,441 SHE SAYS THAT'S FRIGHTENING. 907 00:25:09,507 --> 00:25:11,776 >> IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S 908 00:25:11,843 --> 00:25:13,812 TRIED TO KILL YOU, FOR THEM TO 909 00:25:13,879 --> 00:25:15,080 BE ABLE TO JUST TYPE IN 910 00:25:15,146 --> 00:25:16,848 YOUR NAME AND ANY KNOWN 911 00:25:16,915 --> 00:25:18,750 ADDRESS THAT YOU'VE EVER STAYED 912 00:25:18,817 --> 00:25:22,420 IN CAN POP UP, IT'S SCARY 913 00:25:22,487 --> 00:25:23,955 BECAUSE NOW THEY KNOW WAYS 914 00:25:24,022 --> 00:25:25,156 TO START TRYING TO 915 00:25:25,223 --> 00:25:26,791 FIND YOU. 916 00:25:26,858 --> 00:25:27,525 >> RIGHT. 917 00:25:27,592 --> 00:25:28,860 AND THAT'S NOT JUST THEORETICAL. 918 00:25:28,927 --> 00:25:30,295 IT'S HAPPENED. 919 00:25:30,362 --> 00:25:32,664 IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, A STALKER 920 00:25:32,731 --> 00:25:33,298 KILLED A FORMER CLASSMATE AFTER 921 00:25:33,365 --> 00:25:33,965 FINDING HER WITH INFORMATION 922 00:25:34,032 --> 00:25:36,034 HE'D BOUGHT FROM A DATA BROKER 923 00:25:36,101 --> 00:25:38,270 FOR $45. 924 00:25:38,336 --> 00:25:39,437 AND IF YOU HAVE A STALKER OR 925 00:25:39,504 --> 00:25:40,605 YOU'RE A VICTIM OF DOMESTIC 926 00:25:40,672 --> 00:25:41,640 VIOLENCE, IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE TO 927 00:25:41,706 --> 00:25:45,076 WANT YOUR INFORMATION REMOVED 928 00:25:45,143 --> 00:25:46,544 FROM THESE PEOPLE SEARCH SITES. 929 00:25:46,611 --> 00:25:47,679 UNFORTUNATELY, EACH HAS ITS OWN 930 00:25:47,746 --> 00:25:49,547 SPECIFIC AND SOMETIMES VERY 931 00:25:49,614 --> 00:25:51,116 COMPLEX PROCESS OF REQUESTING 932 00:25:51,182 --> 00:25:52,684 THE REMOVAL OF INFORMATION. 933 00:25:52,751 --> 00:25:54,419 AND THERE'S NO FEDERAL LAW 934 00:25:54,486 --> 00:25:57,055 REQUIRING THEY HONOR AN OPT-OUT 935 00:25:57,122 --> 00:25:58,156 REQUEST AT ALL. 936 00:25:58,223 --> 00:25:59,391 AND THE LACK OF REGULATION HERE 937 00:25:59,457 --> 00:26:01,593 DOESN'T JUST BENEFIT INDIVIDUALS 938 00:26:01,660 --> 00:26:02,894 WHO MIGHT MEAN YOU HARM. 939 00:26:02,961 --> 00:26:06,898 IT BENEFITS THE GOVERNMENT TOO. 940 00:26:06,965 --> 00:26:07,732 BECAUSE IT GIVES THEM A VERY 941 00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:08,600 ATTRACTIVE LOOPHOLE TO THE 942 00:26:08,667 --> 00:26:09,401 FOURTH AMENDMENT PROTECTION 943 00:26:09,467 --> 00:26:11,336 AGAINST UNREASONABLE SEARCHES 944 00:26:11,403 --> 00:26:12,404 AND SEIZURES. 945 00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:13,204 BECAUSE UNDER THAT, THE 946 00:26:13,271 --> 00:26:15,073 GOVERNMENT NEEDS A WARRANT TO 947 00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:16,241 COLLECT INFORMATION ABOUT YOU 948 00:26:16,308 --> 00:26:18,043 WITHOUT YOUR CONSENT. 949 00:26:18,109 --> 00:26:20,245 BUT IF IT'S NOT FORCING SOMEONE 950 00:26:20,312 --> 00:26:22,013 TO TURN OVER YOUR DATA, IF IT'S 951 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,782 SIMPLY BUYING IT FROM A DATA 952 00:26:23,848 --> 00:26:26,618 BROKER, THAT'S APPARENTLY FINE. 953 00:26:26,685 --> 00:26:28,353 NO WARRANT NECESSARY. 954 00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:29,487 YOU CAN SEE HOW VALUABLE THAT 955 00:26:29,554 --> 00:26:31,289 WOULD BE TO THEM. 956 00:26:31,356 --> 00:26:33,291 IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. 957 00:26:33,358 --> 00:26:34,960 IN FACT, FEDERAL AGENCIES FROM 958 00:26:35,026 --> 00:26:36,328 THE FBI TO I.C.E. HAVE PURCHASED 959 00:26:36,394 --> 00:26:38,129 DATA WITHOUT WARRANTS, PUBLIC 960 00:26:38,196 --> 00:26:39,531 DISCLOSURES, OR ROBUST 961 00:26:39,597 --> 00:26:41,066 OVERSIGHT-TO CARRY OUT 962 00:26:41,132 --> 00:26:45,136 EVERYTHING FROM CRIMINAL 963 00:26:45,203 --> 00:26:46,237 AND THE THING IS, YOU MIGHT NOT 964 00:26:46,304 --> 00:26:47,739 KNOW IF YOUR INFORMATION HAS 965 00:26:47,806 --> 00:26:48,573 BEEN SUPPLIED TO THE GOVERNMENT 966 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,041 BY AN APP. 967 00:26:50,108 --> 00:26:51,843 EVEN THE COMPANY BEHIND THE APP 968 00:26:51,910 --> 00:26:53,545 MIGHT NOT KNOW. 969 00:26:53,611 --> 00:26:54,746 BECAUSE IT MIGHT SELL YOUR INFO 970 00:26:54,813 --> 00:26:56,848 TO A BROKER, WHICH THEN RE-SELLS 971 00:26:56,915 --> 00:26:58,249 IT TO SOMEONE ELSE, WHICH THEN 972 00:26:58,316 --> 00:27:00,051 SUPPLIES IT TO THE GOVERNMENT. 973 00:27:00,118 --> 00:27:00,885 I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. 974 00:27:00,952 --> 00:27:02,754 A COUPLE YEARS BACK, VICE FOUND 975 00:27:02,821 --> 00:27:04,322 THAT THE APP MUSLIM PRO, WHICH 976 00:27:04,389 --> 00:27:06,658 LET MUSLIMS KNOW WHEN TO PRAY, 977 00:27:06,725 --> 00:27:08,493 HAD BEEN SELLING USER LOCATION 978 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,628 DATA TO A BROKER THAT SUPPLIED 979 00:27:10,695 --> 00:27:11,830 INFORMATION TO THE U.S. 980 00:27:11,896 --> 00:27:12,831 GOVERNMENT. 981 00:27:12,897 --> 00:27:13,698 AND WHILE BECAUSE THE CHAIN IS 982 00:27:13,765 --> 00:27:15,367 SO OPAQUE, IT'S HARD TO KNOW 983 00:27:15,433 --> 00:27:17,002 WHAT EXACTLY WAS SOLD OR WHAT 984 00:27:17,068 --> 00:27:18,670 THE GOVERNMENT DID WITH IT, THE 985 00:27:18,737 --> 00:27:21,006 APP'S USERS WERE UNDERSTANDABLY 986 00:27:21,072 --> 00:27:23,074 PRETTY ALARMED. 987 00:27:23,141 --> 00:27:25,410 >> FEELING DISTURBED, APPALLED, 988 00:27:25,477 --> 00:27:28,780 BUT NOT SURPRISED. 989 00:27:28,847 --> 00:27:29,447 >> SARA MOSTAFAVI USED 990 00:27:29,514 --> 00:27:30,782 MUSLIM PRO. 991 00:27:30,849 --> 00:27:31,783 THAT APP HAS SINCE REPORTEDLY 992 00:27:31,850 --> 00:27:32,817 SEVERED TIES WITH ITS DATA 993 00:27:32,884 --> 00:27:34,219 PARTNERS. 994 00:27:34,285 --> 00:27:35,687 >> SO INTRUSIVE. 995 00:27:35,754 --> 00:27:36,221 YOU KNOW, MY CONVERSATION 996 00:27:36,287 --> 00:27:39,057 WITH GOD IS NOT INFORMATION 997 00:27:39,124 --> 00:27:41,292 THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS. 998 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,060 >> YEAH, OF COURSE, IT'S 999 00:27:42,127 --> 00:27:43,294 NOT INFORMATION THE GOVERNMENT 1000 00:27:43,361 --> 00:27:44,095 NEEDS. 1001 00:27:44,162 --> 00:27:45,563 THERE'S A REASON THE BOOK WASN'T 1002 00:27:45,630 --> 00:27:47,165 CALLED, "ARE YOU THERE GOD, 1003 00:27:47,232 --> 00:27:48,500 IT'S ME MARGARET AND HOMELAND 1004 00:27:48,566 --> 00:27:49,534 SECURITY'S ON THE LINE AS WELL, 1005 00:27:49,601 --> 00:27:52,337 HOPE THAT'S COOL." 1006 00:27:52,404 --> 00:27:53,438 SO TO RECAP HERE. 1007 00:27:53,505 --> 00:27:55,507 WE'VE GOT SHADY DATA BROKERS 1008 00:27:55,573 --> 00:27:56,274 WITH VIRTUALLY NO OVERSIGHT 1009 00:27:56,341 --> 00:27:57,609 COLLECTING YOUR DATA AND 1010 00:27:57,675 --> 00:27:59,110 BUILDING PROFILES THAT CAN TRACK 1011 00:27:59,177 --> 00:27:59,878 WHO YOU ARE, WHERE YOU ARE AND 1012 00:27:59,944 --> 00:28:02,414 WHAT YOU ARE MOST LIKELY TO DO 1013 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:02,647 OR BUY. 1014 00:28:02,714 --> 00:28:04,682 YOU CAN'T EDIT THIS DOSSIER, AND 1015 00:28:04,749 --> 00:28:06,084 OTHERS, FROM COPS TO REPORTERS 1016 00:28:06,151 --> 00:28:07,552 TO YOUR OWN ABUSERS, CAN FIND 1017 00:28:07,619 --> 00:28:09,054 AND USE THIS INFORMATION. 1018 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:10,722 IT'S NOT A GREAT SITUATION. 1019 00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:16,628 SO WHAT DO WE DO? 1020 00:28:16,694 --> 00:28:17,328 WELL, IT IS A BIT TRICKY, 1021 00:28:17,395 --> 00:28:18,430 ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT 1022 00:28:18,496 --> 00:28:19,197 ENTIRE ECONOMY OF THE INTERNET 1023 00:28:19,264 --> 00:28:20,331 RIGHT NOW IS BASICALLY BUILT ON 1024 00:28:20,398 --> 00:28:21,733 THIS PRACTICE. 1025 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,701 ALL THE FREE STUFF THAT YOU TAKE 1026 00:28:23,768 --> 00:28:25,570 FOR GRANTED ONLINE IS ONLY FREE 1027 00:28:25,637 --> 00:28:27,839 BECAUSE YOU ARE THE PRODUCT. 1028 00:28:27,906 --> 00:28:29,274 THEY MAKE MONEY BY SELLING YOUR 1029 00:28:29,340 --> 00:28:31,176 DATA. 1030 00:28:31,242 --> 00:28:32,377 BUT EXPERTS SAY THERE ARE SOME 1031 00:28:32,444 --> 00:28:33,144 SMALL STEPS THAT YOU CAN 1032 00:28:33,211 --> 00:28:34,679 PERSONALLY TAKE. 1033 00:28:34,746 --> 00:28:36,347 YOU CAN USE WEB BROWSERS LIKE 1034 00:28:36,414 --> 00:28:37,749 THESE TO HELP BETTER PROTECT YOU 1035 00:28:37,816 --> 00:28:39,350 AGAINST THIRD-PARTY TRACKING. 1036 00:28:39,417 --> 00:28:40,819 AND IF YOU HAVE AN iPHONE, YOU 1037 00:28:40,885 --> 00:28:41,986 CAN GO TO THE PRIVACY MENU, HIT 1038 00:28:42,053 --> 00:28:43,788 THE TRACKING BUTTON AND TURN OFF 1039 00:28:43,855 --> 00:28:45,690 "ALLOW APPS TO REQUEST TO 1040 00:28:45,757 --> 00:28:46,791 TRACK." 1041 00:28:46,858 --> 00:28:48,993 BUT THIS SHOULDN'T BE YOUR 1042 00:28:49,060 --> 00:28:50,195 RESPONSIBILITY. 1043 00:28:50,261 --> 00:28:51,629 YOUR PRIVACY SHOULD BE THE 1044 00:28:51,696 --> 00:28:53,832 DEFAULT SETTING. 1045 00:28:53,898 --> 00:28:54,833 AND THERE SHOULD BE LEGAL FIXES 1046 00:28:54,899 --> 00:28:55,467 TO THIS. 1047 00:28:55,533 --> 00:28:57,535 OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE TRIED. 1048 00:28:57,602 --> 00:28:59,471 THE E.U. PASSED A LAW TO FORCE 1049 00:28:59,537 --> 00:29:01,072 SITES TO DISCLOSE COOKIES AND 1050 00:29:01,139 --> 00:29:02,841 ALLOW YOU TO OPT OUT. 1051 00:29:02,907 --> 00:29:05,243 BUT I WILL SAY COMPANIES NOW 1052 00:29:05,310 --> 00:29:06,945 OFTEN CLEVERLY PRESENT THOSE 1053 00:29:07,011 --> 00:29:08,213 OPTIONS IN THE MOST ANNOYING WAY 1054 00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:09,481 POSSIBLE, WITH "ACCEPT ALL 1055 00:29:09,547 --> 00:29:12,650 COOKIES" AN EASY DEFAULT, BUT IF 1056 00:29:12,717 --> 00:29:13,518 YOU WANT TO REJECT THEM, FORCING 1057 00:29:13,585 --> 00:29:14,919 YOU TO GO THROUGH MULTIPLE 1058 00:29:14,986 --> 00:29:16,421 CONFUSING STEPS FOR NO CLEAR 1059 00:29:16,488 --> 00:29:18,289 REASON, WHICH IS VERY SMART TO 1060 00:29:18,356 --> 00:29:19,858 BE HONEST. 1061 00:29:19,924 --> 00:29:21,059 NO ONE'S GOING TO PUT IN THE 1062 00:29:21,126 --> 00:29:22,093 WORK TO REJECT COOKIES JUST TO 1063 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,429 SNEAK A PEAK AT AN ARTICLE 1064 00:29:24,496 --> 00:29:25,597 TITLED "FIVE TIMES ANDREW 1065 00:29:25,663 --> 00:29:30,101 GARFIELD JUST WAS." 1066 00:29:30,168 --> 00:29:31,069 YOU'D MUCH RATHER HIT "ACCEPT" 1067 00:29:31,136 --> 00:29:32,036 AND ENJOY YOUR REMAINING TIME ON 1068 00:29:32,103 --> 00:29:32,904 EARTH GAZING AT THE MOST 1069 00:29:32,971 --> 00:29:34,873 EMOTIONALLY CONNECTED SPIDERMAN 1070 00:29:34,939 --> 00:29:38,209 TO EVER SPLOOGE THE OOZE. 1071 00:29:38,276 --> 00:29:40,011 AS FOR HERE IN THE U.S., 1072 00:29:40,078 --> 00:29:41,346 INDIVIDUAL STATES HAVE TRIED TO 1073 00:29:41,412 --> 00:29:42,747 LIMIT DATA BROKERS, BUT 1074 00:29:42,814 --> 00:29:43,681 ADVOCATES SAY THAT WHAT IS 1075 00:29:43,748 --> 00:29:45,150 REALLY NEEDED IS A COMPREHENSIVE 1076 00:29:45,216 --> 00:29:47,318 FEDERAL PRIVACY LAW GOVERNING 1077 00:29:47,385 --> 00:29:48,987 THEM. 1078 00:29:49,053 --> 00:29:49,888 THIS HAS BEEN PROPOSED FOR YEARS 1079 00:29:49,954 --> 00:29:51,422 NOW, BUT NOTHING'S HAPPENED, 1080 00:29:51,489 --> 00:29:52,624 FOR A COUPLE OF KEY REASONS. 1081 00:29:52,690 --> 00:29:54,459 FIRST, DATA BROKER SPENDING ON 1082 00:29:54,526 --> 00:29:56,427 LOBBYING IN 2020 RIVALED THAT OF 1083 00:29:56,494 --> 00:29:58,463 FACEBOOK AND GOOGLE. 1084 00:29:58,530 --> 00:30:00,431 BUT ALSO, POLITICIANS NOW 1085 00:30:00,498 --> 00:30:02,467 FAMOUSLY BUILD THEIR CAMPAIGNS 1086 00:30:02,534 --> 00:30:04,402 ON DATA OBTAINED FROM BROKERS. 1087 00:30:04,469 --> 00:30:05,770 BOTH PARTIES REGULARLY BOAST 1088 00:30:05,837 --> 00:30:08,206 ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY USE DATA. 1089 00:30:08,273 --> 00:30:09,741 JUST LISTEN TO FORMER RNC CHAIR 1090 00:30:09,807 --> 00:30:10,909 REINCE PREIBUS OPENLY BRAGGING 1091 00:30:10,975 --> 00:30:13,811 ABOUT IT. 1092 00:30:13,878 --> 00:30:15,547 >> EVERYTHING ABOUT ALMOST EVERY 1093 00:30:15,613 --> 00:30:17,148 POTENTIAL VOTER IN GEORGIA IS 1094 00:30:17,215 --> 00:30:18,316 KNOWN. 1095 00:30:18,383 --> 00:30:19,450 AND IT'S NOT EVEN A JOKE, 1096 00:30:19,517 --> 00:30:20,451 THEY -- THEY KNOW WHAT BEER THEY 1097 00:30:20,518 --> 00:30:21,886 DRINK, WHAT CAR THEY DRIVE, 1098 00:30:21,953 --> 00:30:23,054 HOW MANY KIDS THEY HAVE, 1099 00:30:23,121 --> 00:30:24,756 AND ALL THAT DATA IS USED 1100 00:30:24,822 --> 00:30:26,958 TO TARGET EVERY SINGLE 1101 00:30:27,025 --> 00:30:29,160 VOTER IN GEORGIA. 1102 00:30:29,227 --> 00:30:30,161 >> IT'S TRUE. 1103 00:30:30,228 --> 00:30:31,429 POLITICIANS RELY ON DATA TO BE 1104 00:30:31,496 --> 00:30:33,064 ABLE TO TARGET OUR INTERESTS 1105 00:30:33,131 --> 00:30:35,567 WITH PINPOINT PRECISION. 1106 00:30:35,633 --> 00:30:36,668 ALTHOUGH THEREFORE I DO WONDER 1107 00:30:36,734 --> 00:30:37,902 WHY NO PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE 1108 00:30:37,969 --> 00:30:40,104 HAS YET TARGETED ME PERSONALLY 1109 00:30:40,171 --> 00:30:41,739 WITH ADS PROMISING TO FIGHT FOR 1110 00:30:41,806 --> 00:30:43,708 THE SHOWER OF MORNING CHUNKS 1111 00:30:43,775 --> 00:30:45,176 THAT I SO RICHLY DESERVE. 1112 00:30:45,243 --> 00:30:46,978 I GOOGLE IT ALL THE TIME, AND 1113 00:30:47,045 --> 00:30:49,547 YOU'D HAVE MY VOTE INSTANTLY. 1114 00:30:49,614 --> 00:30:50,915 IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING THAT THE 1115 00:30:50,982 --> 00:30:52,217 PEOPLE WHO COULD DO SOMETHING 1116 00:30:52,283 --> 00:30:53,785 ABOUT DATA BROKERS ARE SO 1117 00:30:53,851 --> 00:30:55,920 ACTIVELY INCENTIVIZED NOT TO. 1118 00:30:55,987 --> 00:30:57,989 BUT HERE IS WHERE WE MAY BE ABLE 1119 00:30:58,056 --> 00:30:59,357 TO HELP. 1120 00:30:59,424 --> 00:31:01,392 BECAUSE INTERESTINGLY, THE ONE 1121 00:31:01,459 --> 00:31:02,627 TIME THAT CONGRESS HAS ACTED 1122 00:31:02,694 --> 00:31:04,462 QUICKLY TO SAFEGUARD PEOPLE'S 1123 00:31:04,529 --> 00:31:06,097 PRIVACY WAS IN THE 1980s, WHEN 1124 00:31:06,164 --> 00:31:07,966 ROBERT BORK WAS NOMINATED TO THE 1125 00:31:08,032 --> 00:31:09,133 SUPREME COURT, AND A REPORTER 1126 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,868 WALKED INTO A LOCAL VIDEO STORE 1127 00:31:10,935 --> 00:31:12,837 AND ASKED THE MANAGER WHETHER HE 1128 00:31:12,904 --> 00:31:14,205 COULD HAVE A PEEK AT BORK'S 1129 00:31:14,272 --> 00:31:14,973 VIDEO RENTAL HISTORY, 1130 00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:17,275 AND HE GOT IT. 1131 00:31:17,342 --> 00:31:19,377 AS SOON AS CONGRESS REALIZED 1132 00:31:19,444 --> 00:31:20,411 THERE WAS NOTHING STOPPING 1133 00:31:20,478 --> 00:31:21,779 ANYONE FROM RETRIEVING THEIR 1134 00:31:21,846 --> 00:31:24,582 VIDEO RENTAL RECORDS TOO, 1135 00:31:24,649 --> 00:31:27,085 THEY FREAKED THE FUCK OUT, 1136 00:31:27,151 --> 00:31:28,186 AND LO AND BEHOLD, 1137 00:31:28,253 --> 00:31:29,487 THE VIDEO PRIVACY PROTECTION ACT 1138 00:31:29,554 --> 00:31:30,154 WAS PASSED WITH 1139 00:31:30,221 --> 00:31:32,523 QUITE DELIBERATE SPEED. 1140 00:31:32,590 --> 00:31:33,992 SO IT SEEMS WHEN CONGRESS' OWN 1141 00:31:34,058 --> 00:31:36,461 PRIVACY IS AT RISK, THEY SOMEHOW 1142 00:31:36,527 --> 00:31:38,162 FIND A WAY TO ACT. 1143 00:31:38,229 --> 00:31:39,731 AND IT ALSO SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE 1144 00:31:39,797 --> 00:31:41,766 NOT ENTIRELY AWARE JUST HOW EASY 1145 00:31:41,833 --> 00:31:43,434 IT IS FOR ANYONE -- AND I DO 1146 00:31:43,501 --> 00:31:45,136 MEAN ANYONE -- TO GET THEIR 1147 00:31:45,203 --> 00:31:46,904 PERSONAL INFORMATION, 1148 00:31:46,971 --> 00:31:49,607 WHICH BRINGS ME TO ME. 1149 00:31:49,674 --> 00:31:50,708 BECAUSE IN RESEARCHING THIS 1150 00:31:50,775 --> 00:31:52,076 STORY, WE REALIZED THERE'S ANY 1151 00:31:52,143 --> 00:31:54,579 NUMBER OF PERFECTLY LEGAL BITS 1152 00:31:54,646 --> 00:31:56,047 OF FUCKERY THAT WE COULD ENGAGE 1153 00:31:56,114 --> 00:31:57,081 IN. 1154 00:31:57,148 --> 00:31:59,651 WE COULD, FOR EXAMPLE, USE DATA 1155 00:31:59,717 --> 00:32:01,119 BROKERS TO GO FISHING FOR 1156 00:32:01,185 --> 00:32:02,153 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, BY CREATING 1157 00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:04,522 A DEMOGRAPHIC GROUP CONSISTING 1158 00:32:04,589 --> 00:32:06,491 OF MEN AGE 45 AND UP, IN A 1159 00:32:06,557 --> 00:32:07,892 FIVE-MILE RADIUS OF THE U.S. 1160 00:32:07,959 --> 00:32:09,060 CAPITOL, WHO HAD PREVIOUSLY 1161 00:32:09,127 --> 00:32:10,728 VISITED SITES REGARDING, OR 1162 00:32:10,795 --> 00:32:12,897 SEARCHED FOR TERMS INCLUDING, 1163 00:32:12,964 --> 00:32:14,732 DIVORCE, MASSAGE, HAIR LOSS AND 1164 00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:16,734 MIDLIFE CRISIS. 1165 00:32:16,801 --> 00:32:19,804 WE COULD CALL THAT GROUP 1166 00:32:19,871 --> 00:32:21,939 "CONGRESS AND CABERNET," AND 1167 00:32:22,006 --> 00:32:24,108 THEN TARGET THAT LIST WITH ADS 1168 00:32:24,175 --> 00:32:25,209 THAT MIGHT ATTRACT THOSE MEN TO 1169 00:32:25,276 --> 00:32:26,844 CLICK, LIKE,"MARRIAGE SHOULDN'T 1170 00:32:26,911 --> 00:32:28,579 BE A PRISON," OR "CAN YOU VOTE 1171 00:32:28,646 --> 00:32:32,350 TWICE?" 1172 00:32:32,417 --> 00:32:32,950 WE COULD ALSO THROW IN, "DO YOU 1173 00:32:33,017 --> 00:32:33,885 WANT TO READ TED CRUZ EROTIC FAN 1174 00:32:33,951 --> 00:32:36,521 FICTION?" 1175 00:32:36,587 --> 00:32:37,689 JUST TO SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. 1176 00:32:37,755 --> 00:32:39,590 AND IF ANYONE CLICKED, WE'D BE 1177 00:32:39,657 --> 00:32:41,292 ABLE TO HARVEST EVEN MORE DATA 1178 00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:42,794 FROM THEM, WHICH WE COULD THEN 1179 00:32:42,860 --> 00:32:44,729 THEORETICALLY TAKE STEPS TO 1180 00:32:44,796 --> 00:32:45,496 DE-ANONYMIZE. 1181 00:32:45,563 --> 00:32:47,665 NOW, AM I SAYING THAT WE'RE 1182 00:32:47,732 --> 00:32:49,534 ACTUALLY GOING TO DO THAT? 1183 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,868 COLLECT ALL THAT RAW INFORMATION 1184 00:32:50,935 --> 00:32:53,071 AND STORE IT IN, LET'S SAY, 1185 00:32:53,137 --> 00:32:55,239 A MANILA ENVELOPE SOMEWHERE? 1186 00:32:55,306 --> 00:32:55,840 WELL, I'M SORRY TO DISAPPOINT 1187 00:32:55,907 --> 00:32:56,841 YOU. 1188 00:32:56,908 --> 00:32:59,110 WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. 1189 00:32:59,177 --> 00:33:00,645 WHY WOULD WE WHEN WE HAVE 1190 00:33:00,712 --> 00:33:02,580 ALREADY DONE IT? 1191 00:33:02,647 --> 00:33:07,785 BECAUSE ALL THAT RAW DATA IS 1192 00:33:07,852 --> 00:33:09,587 CURRENTLY RIGHT IN HERE. 1193 00:33:09,654 --> 00:33:11,356 AND HONESTLY, THIS WHOLE 1194 00:33:11,422 --> 00:33:14,726 EXERCISE WAS FUCKING CREEPY. 1195 00:33:14,792 --> 00:33:16,194 WE RAN THOSE THREE TARGETED ADS 1196 00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:17,395 THIS WEEK IN THE CAPITOL HILL 1197 00:33:17,462 --> 00:33:19,230 AREA, AND TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF 1198 00:33:19,297 --> 00:33:21,699 JUST HOW MANY CLICKS WE GOT... 1199 00:33:21,766 --> 00:33:25,203 IT WAS VERY MUCH NOT ZERO. 1200 00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:26,437 DO YOU WANT TO SEE MORE? 1201 00:33:26,504 --> 00:33:27,972 BECAUSE SO DO I! 1202 00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:34,645 PLEASE COME WITH ME. 1203 00:33:34,712 --> 00:33:35,446 LET'S START. 1204 00:33:35,513 --> 00:33:36,314 LET'S ME START WITH THE VERY 1205 00:33:36,381 --> 00:33:36,881 FIRST HIT WE GOT. 1206 00:33:36,948 --> 00:33:38,082 35 PM ON TUESDAY 1207 00:33:38,149 --> 00:33:39,250 AFTERNOON FROM AROUND THE 1208 00:33:39,317 --> 00:33:41,119 EMBASSY ROW AREA, WHEN A MAN 1209 00:33:41,185 --> 00:33:43,788 FITTING OUR DESCRIPTION CLICKED 1210 00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:49,560 ON THE TED CRUZ AD. 1211 00:33:49,627 --> 00:33:50,294 MEANING WE NOW HAVE HIS 1212 00:33:50,361 --> 00:33:50,895 IP ADDRESS AND DEVICE ID, AND 1213 00:33:50,962 --> 00:33:51,596 ALSO KNOW THAT HE DID IT ON AN 1214 00:33:51,662 --> 00:33:53,498 ANDROID PHONE. 1215 00:33:53,564 --> 00:33:54,098 SO WE COULD NOW TAKE STEPS TO 1216 00:33:54,165 --> 00:33:55,733 IDENTIFY HIM. 1217 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:56,300 JUST LIKE WE COULD WITH ALL 1218 00:33:56,367 --> 00:33:57,535 THESE OTHERS WHO CLICKED ON ONE 1219 00:33:57,602 --> 00:34:02,306 OF OUR ADS IN THE CAPITOL HILL 1220 00:34:02,373 --> 00:34:03,641 AREA THIS WEEK, INCLUDING AT 1221 00:34:03,708 --> 00:34:04,242 LEAST THREE WHO MAY'VE BEEN 1222 00:34:04,308 --> 00:34:04,942 INSIDE THE CAPITOL BUILDING 1223 00:34:05,009 --> 00:34:06,210 ITSELF. 1224 00:34:06,277 --> 00:34:07,445 ONE OF WHOM CLICKED ON THE 1225 00:34:07,512 --> 00:34:08,846 "CAN YOU VOTE TWICE?" AD 1226 00:34:08,913 --> 00:34:10,248 ONE OF WHOM CLICKED ON THE 1227 00:34:10,314 --> 00:34:11,983 DIVORCE ONE, AND ANOTHER WHO 1228 00:34:12,049 --> 00:34:15,453 CLICKED ON THE EROTIC FICTION, 1229 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,754 WHICH WAS DISTRESSINGLY POPULAR. 1230 00:34:16,821 --> 00:34:17,822 AND IF YOU'RE THINKING, 1231 00:34:17,889 --> 00:34:18,956 "HOW ON EARTH 1232 00:34:19,023 --> 00:34:19,957 IS ANY OF THIS LEGAL?" 1233 00:34:20,024 --> 00:34:21,592 I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. 1234 00:34:21,659 --> 00:34:24,195 IT SHOULDN'T BE. 1235 00:34:24,262 --> 00:34:25,530 AND IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE 1236 00:34:25,596 --> 00:34:26,564 A LEGISLATOR WHO'S FEELING 1237 00:34:26,631 --> 00:34:28,933 A LITTLE NERVOUS RIGHT NOW ABOUT 1238 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,536 WHETHER YOUR INFORMATION IS IN 1239 00:34:31,602 --> 00:34:32,937 THIS ENVELOPE AND YOU'RE 1240 00:34:33,004 --> 00:34:33,971 TERRIFIED ABOUT WHAT I MIGHT DO 1241 00:34:34,038 --> 00:34:35,239 WITH IT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO 1242 00:34:35,306 --> 00:34:36,808 CHANNEL THAT WORRY INTO MAKING 1243 00:34:36,874 --> 00:34:39,677 SURE THAT I CANNOT ACTUALLY DO 1244 00:34:39,744 --> 00:34:42,480 ANYTHING. 1245 00:34:42,547 --> 00:34:43,614 ANYWAY, SLEEP WELL. 1246 00:34:43,681 --> 00:34:46,417 THAT'S OUR SHOW. 1247 00:34:46,484 --> 00:34:47,418 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING. 1248 00:34:47,485 --> 00:34:47,952 WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK. 1249 00:34:48,019 --> 00:34:52,156 GOOD NIGHT!