1 00:00:32,533 --> 00:00:33,166 >> John: WELCOME 2 00:00:33,233 --> 00:00:34,066 WELCOME, WELCOME 3 00:00:34,133 --> 00:00:35,566 TO "LAST WEEK TONIGHT"! 4 00:00:35,633 --> 00:00:37,333 I'M JOHN OLIVER. 5 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:38,266 THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US, 6 00:00:38,333 --> 00:00:40,700 AND LET'S DIVE STRAIGHT IN WITH 7 00:00:40,766 --> 00:00:41,400 UKRAINE, WHERE IT'S BEEN A TRULY 8 00:00:41,466 --> 00:00:42,766 GRIM WEEK. 9 00:00:42,833 --> 00:00:45,033 AND YET, UKRAINIAN CITIZENS HAVE 10 00:00:45,100 --> 00:00:46,266 CONTINUED TO SHOW INCREDIBLE 11 00:00:46,333 --> 00:00:48,533 SIGNS OF RESISTANCE, PROVING 12 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:49,500 THEY'RE TRULY THE "FUCK AROUND 13 00:00:49,566 --> 00:00:50,633 AND FIND OUT" COUNTRY 14 00:00:50,700 --> 00:00:56,800 OF EASTERN EUROPE. 15 00:00:56,866 --> 00:01:00,300 >> FOR GRANDMOTHER AND RETIRED 16 00:01:00,366 --> 00:01:00,566 ECONOMIST. 17 00:01:00,633 --> 00:01:01,200 THESE ARE THE ONLY WEAPONS SHE 18 00:01:01,266 --> 00:01:04,933 HAS BUT SHE SAYS SHE'S READY TO 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,566 FIGHT. 20 00:01:09,633 --> 00:01:11,000 LET THOSE RUSSIAN SHITS COME 21 00:01:11,066 --> 00:01:11,200 HERE. 22 00:01:11,266 --> 00:01:12,666 WE ARE READY TO GREET THEM. 23 00:01:12,733 --> 00:01:16,833 >> DO YOU HAVE A MESSAGE FOR 24 00:01:16,900 --> 00:01:17,766 PRESIDENT PUTIN. 25 00:01:17,833 --> 00:01:19,433 >> PUTIN 26 00:01:19,500 --> 00:01:21,400 >> IT'S A POPULAR SENTIMENT ON 27 00:01:21,466 --> 00:01:21,800 THE STREETS. 28 00:01:21,866 --> 00:01:24,466 THIS MAN'S SIGN IS TOO VULGAR TO 29 00:01:24,533 --> 00:01:28,233 TRANSLATE. 30 00:01:28,300 --> 00:01:29,066 >> John: OH, IS IT? 31 00:01:29,133 --> 00:01:30,000 WELL, WE CAN HELP YOU THERE. 32 00:01:30,066 --> 00:01:30,600 THIS IS THE NETWORK THAT AIRS 33 00:01:30,666 --> 00:01:31,333 SHOWS ABOUT HIGH SCHOOLERS 34 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,133 TAKING HEROIN AND HOSTING ORGIES 35 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:32,766 BEFORE HOMEROOM, SO WE HAVE NO 36 00:01:32,833 --> 00:01:33,266 SUCH PROBLEMS. 37 00:01:33,333 --> 00:01:34,100 I CAN TELL YOU THAT SIGN 38 00:01:34,166 --> 00:01:35,333 TRANSLATES TO "PUTIN IS 39 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:36,600 A DICKHEAD," WHICH HE CLEARLY 40 00:01:36,666 --> 00:01:37,966 VERY MUCH IS. 41 00:01:38,033 --> 00:01:39,900 ALSO, IT'S NOTABLE "DICKHEAD" 42 00:01:39,966 --> 00:01:41,066 WAS TOO VULGAR FOR CNN, BUT 43 00:01:41,133 --> 00:01:42,333 MOLOTOV GRANDMA GOT TO SAY 44 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:43,600 "LET THOSE RUSSIAN SHITS COME" 45 00:01:43,666 --> 00:01:45,233 WITH NO PROBLEM. 46 00:01:45,300 --> 00:01:46,600 IT SEEMS SHE'S ABOVE THE LAW, 47 00:01:46,666 --> 00:01:48,800 AS SHE SHOULD BE. 48 00:01:48,866 --> 00:01:50,066 UKRAINIANS' DEFIANCE AND SENSE 49 00:01:50,133 --> 00:01:54,466 OF HUMOR IN THE MIDST OF SUCH AN 50 00:01:54,533 --> 00:01:55,900 BRUTAL, OUTMATCHED FIGHT HAS 51 00:01:55,966 --> 00:01:56,466 UNDERSTANDABLY CAPTURED THE 52 00:01:56,533 --> 00:01:57,066 WORLD'S IMAGINATION, ALTHOUGH 53 00:01:57,133 --> 00:01:57,700 WHAT SOME HAVE CHOSEN TO DO WITH 54 00:01:57,766 --> 00:01:58,300 THAT IMAGINATION HAS LEFT 55 00:01:58,366 --> 00:02:03,233 A LITTLE TO BE DESIRED. 56 00:02:03,300 --> 00:02:07,566 >> TO ME, ZIELINSKI IS A CROSS 57 00:02:07,633 --> 00:02:09,033 BETWEEN CHURCHILL AND 58 00:02:09,100 --> 00:02:10,500 ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER. 59 00:02:10,566 --> 00:02:11,033 HE'S INCREDIBLE. 60 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:14,133 >> A GREAT STORY, SLASH, MAYBE 61 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,833 ONE DAY A MOVIE. 62 00:02:15,900 --> 00:02:17,700 >> PEOPLE WERE QUICK TO CAST THE 63 00:02:17,766 --> 00:02:20,966 FILM ON TWITTER SAYING JEREMY 64 00:02:21,033 --> 00:02:22,533 RENNER WOULD MAKE THE PERFECT 65 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:22,966 PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY. 66 00:02:23,033 --> 00:02:24,800 >> WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A 67 00:02:24,866 --> 00:02:25,600 WAR. 68 00:02:25,666 --> 00:02:26,300 >> A LITTLE INSENSITIVE BUT 69 00:02:26,366 --> 00:02:27,066 WHENEVER IT DOES GET MADE, IT'S 70 00:02:27,133 --> 00:02:30,633 GOING TO BE UP EPIC. 71 00:02:30,700 --> 00:02:32,766 >> John: BABY WAIT FOR THE 72 00:02:32,833 --> 00:02:37,000 ACTUAL WORD TO END BEFORE START 73 00:02:37,066 --> 00:02:40,166 CASTING THE MOVIE. 74 00:02:40,233 --> 00:02:41,000 BUT TO BE FAIR, "YEAH, A LITTLE 75 00:02:41,066 --> 00:02:41,633 INSENSITIVE BUT WE'RE GONNA RUN 76 00:02:41,700 --> 00:02:42,266 WITH IT ANYWAY" IS THE OFFICIAL 77 00:02:42,333 --> 00:02:42,600 MOTTO OF TMZ. 78 00:02:42,666 --> 00:02:43,600 AND SPARE A THOUGHT THERE FOR 79 00:02:43,666 --> 00:02:44,000 VOLODMIR ZELENSKY. 80 00:02:44,066 --> 00:02:44,600 HE'S GOT ENOUGH GOING ON RIGHT 81 00:02:44,666 --> 00:02:45,300 NOW WITHOUT BEING DESCRIBED AS A 82 00:02:45,366 --> 00:02:50,833 "JEREMY RENNER TYPE." 83 00:02:50,900 --> 00:02:51,766 THAT'S NOT A NICE THING TO SAY. 84 00:02:51,833 --> 00:02:52,766 AS FOR RUSSIA, THEY'VE RESPONDED 85 00:02:52,833 --> 00:02:55,200 TO WORLDWIDE CRITICISM BY 86 00:02:55,266 --> 00:02:56,200 CLAMPING DOWN HARD ON DISSENT 87 00:02:56,266 --> 00:02:56,533 AT HOME. 88 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:57,166 PUTIN JUST SIGNED A LAW 89 00:02:57,233 --> 00:02:57,866 EFFECTIVELY CRIMINALIZING ANY 90 00:02:57,933 --> 00:02:59,300 PUBLIC OPPOSITION TO, OR 91 00:02:59,366 --> 00:02:59,833 INDEPENDENT NEWS REPORTING 92 00:02:59,900 --> 00:03:00,466 ABOUT, THE WAR, AND AUTHORITIES 93 00:03:00,533 --> 00:03:06,533 HAVE BLOCKED TWITTER AND 94 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,200 FACEBOOK, AND THREATING TO BLOCK 95 00:03:09,266 --> 00:03:10,466 WIKIPEDIA. 96 00:03:10,533 --> 00:03:11,866 THE EDUCATION MINISTRY EVEN 97 00:03:11,933 --> 00:03:12,933 PRODUCED A NATIONWIDE ONLINE 98 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:13,566 LESSON FOR CHILDREN, FEATURING A 99 00:03:13,633 --> 00:03:14,433 LITTLE GIRL ASKING QUESTIONS 100 00:03:14,500 --> 00:03:15,500 ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON AND 101 00:03:15,566 --> 00:03:16,800 GETTING SOME SPECTACULAR 102 00:03:16,866 --> 00:03:21,033 ANSWERS. 103 00:03:21,100 --> 00:03:21,733 >> Interpreter: I HAVE A 104 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,600 QUESTION. 105 00:03:24,666 --> 00:03:26,400 SPECIAL OPERATIONS. 106 00:03:26,466 --> 00:03:28,000 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 107 00:03:28,066 --> 00:03:29,566 >> GOALS LEAD TO PEACE. 108 00:03:29,633 --> 00:03:30,133 WE DO NOT ATTACK RESIDENTIAL 109 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,800 BUILDINGS. 110 00:03:31,866 --> 00:03:34,066 WE DO NOT HIT CIVILIANS. 111 00:03:34,133 --> 00:03:36,466 WE DO NOT DESTROY SOCIAL 112 00:03:36,533 --> 00:03:36,900 INFRASTRUCTURE. 113 00:03:36,966 --> 00:03:37,833 KINDERGARTEN, SCHOOL, WATER 114 00:03:37,900 --> 00:03:41,700 UTILITIES, SUBSTATIONS. 115 00:03:41,766 --> 00:03:42,333 >> John: EXCEPT YOU'VE LITERALLY 116 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:43,033 JUST DONE ALMOST ALL THOSE 117 00:03:43,100 --> 00:03:43,866 THINGS. 118 00:03:43,933 --> 00:03:44,700 RUSSIAN STRIKES HAVE DESTROYED 119 00:03:44,766 --> 00:03:45,333 HOSPITALS, SCHOOLS, AND HOMES. 120 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:46,066 ALSO I DON'T WANT TO BE GIVING 121 00:03:46,133 --> 00:03:47,000 NOTES TO STATE PROPAGANDA. 122 00:03:47,066 --> 00:03:48,433 BUT IF YOU'RE LYING TO A CHILD'S 123 00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:49,066 FACE, MAYBE CAST A LESS CREEPY 124 00:03:49,133 --> 00:03:50,666 MAN TO DO IT. 125 00:03:50,733 --> 00:03:51,700 MAY I SUGGEST FILM ACTOR 126 00:03:51,766 --> 00:03:53,833 JEREMY RENNER? 127 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:54,633 PEOPLE SEEM TO WANT HIM INVOLVED 128 00:03:54,700 --> 00:03:56,733 IN THIS SOMEHOW. 129 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:57,500 AND YET, DESPITE RUSSIA'S 130 00:03:57,566 --> 00:03:59,000 EFFORTS TO CONTROL THE 131 00:03:59,066 --> 00:04:01,000 NARRATIVE, WE CONTINUE TO SEE 132 00:04:01,066 --> 00:04:01,933 PUBLIC PROTESTS AND SOME 133 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:02,700 RUSSIAN CELEBRITIES, 134 00:04:02,766 --> 00:04:03,866 POLITICIANS, AND EVEN A FEW 135 00:04:03,933 --> 00:04:05,266 OLIGARCHS HAVE CAUTIOUSLY 136 00:04:05,333 --> 00:04:06,633 SPOKEN OUT. 137 00:04:06,700 --> 00:04:08,566 WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE, 138 00:04:08,633 --> 00:04:09,766 NOT ONLY IS THE WAR MORALLY 139 00:04:09,833 --> 00:04:11,033 INDEFENSIBLE, BUT THE IMPACTS OF 140 00:04:11,100 --> 00:04:13,333 GLOBAL SANCTIONS ARE NOW BEING 141 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:13,933 FELT AT EVERY LEVEL OF RUSSIAN 142 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:14,866 SOCIETY. 143 00:04:14,933 --> 00:04:17,733 THE ECONOMY THERE IS IN FREE 144 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,200 FALL AND JUST WATCH THE LEVEL 145 00:04:19,266 --> 00:04:20,800 OF DESPAIR IN THIS EXCHANGE ON A 146 00:04:20,866 --> 00:04:26,600 RUSSIAN FINANCIAL NETWORK. 147 00:04:26,666 --> 00:04:27,433 >> Interpreter: HELLO. 148 00:04:27,500 --> 00:04:29,733 >> I WON'T SAY GOOD DAY. 149 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,533 >> NO ONE DOES THESE DAYS. 150 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,266 >> JOKES ASIDE, LET'S DO THIS 151 00:04:34,333 --> 00:04:36,233 QUICK. 152 00:04:36,300 --> 00:04:36,633 SENDING REGARDS. 153 00:04:36,700 --> 00:04:40,400 12 TO 13 YEARS AGO, HE DRANK TO 154 00:04:40,466 --> 00:04:42,633 THE DEATH OF THE STOCK MARKET. 155 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:44,033 DEAR STOCK MARKET, YOU WERE 156 00:04:44,100 --> 00:04:44,866 CLOSE TO US. 157 00:04:44,933 --> 00:04:46,500 YOU ARE INTERESTING TO US. 158 00:04:46,566 --> 00:04:50,033 REST IN PEACE, DEAR COMRADE. 159 00:04:50,100 --> 00:04:50,966 >> John: WOW. 160 00:04:51,033 --> 00:04:51,566 THAT GUY TOASTED THE DEATH OF 161 00:04:51,633 --> 00:04:52,933 THE RUSSIAN STOCK MARKET, SAYING 162 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:53,566 "YOU WERE CLOSE TO US, YOU WERE 163 00:04:53,633 --> 00:04:54,100 INTERESTING TO US," THEN 164 00:04:54,166 --> 00:04:55,133 CHUGGING SOME SELTZER. 165 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,166 WHICH IS STRIKING, BUT SOUNDS 166 00:04:56,233 --> 00:04:57,133 LESS LIKE HOW YOU'D MOURN A 167 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,233 FINANCIAL SYSTEM AND MORE LIKE 168 00:04:58,300 --> 00:04:59,766 HOW YOU'D GIVE A EULOGY FOR A 169 00:04:59,833 --> 00:05:00,533 CLOWN YOU DON'T KNOW ALL THAT 170 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,100 WELL PERSONALLY. 171 00:05:02,166 --> 00:05:02,933 "YOU WERE CLOSE TO US, YOU WERE 172 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,833 INTERESTING TO US." 173 00:05:07,900 --> 00:05:08,900 KSHHHH. 174 00:05:08,966 --> 00:05:09,433 YET, FOR ALL THE UKRAINIAN 175 00:05:09,500 --> 00:05:10,200 RESISTANCE AND RUSSIAN 176 00:05:10,266 --> 00:05:12,600 DISCONTENT, THE FACT IS, 177 00:05:12,666 --> 00:05:13,066 RUSSIA'S ADVANCING AND 178 00:05:13,133 --> 00:05:13,666 COMMITTING HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES 179 00:05:13,733 --> 00:05:15,233 ALONG THE WAY. 180 00:05:15,300 --> 00:05:16,700 AND IT LOOKS LIKE CASUALTIES ARE 181 00:05:16,766 --> 00:05:17,966 ONLY GOING TO RISE, ESPECIALLY 182 00:05:18,033 --> 00:05:18,966 GIVEN, AFTER A CALL WITH PUTIN 183 00:05:19,033 --> 00:05:20,300 ON THURSDAY, FRENCH PRESIDENT 184 00:05:20,366 --> 00:05:21,766 EMMANUEL MACRON WAS REPORTEDLY 185 00:05:21,833 --> 00:05:23,166 CONVINCED THAT PUTIN WANTS TO 186 00:05:23,233 --> 00:05:25,133 SEIZE THE WHOLE OF UKRAINE AND 187 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,500 THAT "THE WORST IS TO COME." 188 00:05:26,566 --> 00:05:28,400 SO SADLY, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S 189 00:05:28,466 --> 00:05:29,800 GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT OR JUST HOW 190 00:05:29,866 --> 00:05:33,066 BAD THIS COULD GET. 191 00:05:33,133 --> 00:05:35,133 WHAT DETERMINES THE 192 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:35,766 OUTCOME HERE MAY NOT SO MUCH BE 193 00:05:35,833 --> 00:05:36,766 UKRAINIAN RESISTANCE OR RUSSIAN 194 00:05:36,833 --> 00:05:40,833 PROPAGANDA, SO MUCH AS ONE MAN'S 195 00:05:40,900 --> 00:05:41,466 DETERMINATION TO BE -- IF I MAY 196 00:05:41,533 --> 00:05:42,800 QUOTE ONE OF THE MOST APPLICABLE 197 00:05:42,866 --> 00:05:44,166 PHRASES IN ANY LANGUAGE-- 198 00:05:44,233 --> 00:05:47,033 A TOTAL DICKHEAD. 199 00:05:47,100 --> 00:05:52,200 AND NOW THIS. 200 00:05:52,266 --> 00:05:55,766 >> Announcer: AND NOW THE LINE 201 00:05:55,833 --> 00:05:56,566 EVERY BACHELOR AND BACHELORETTE 202 00:05:56,633 --> 00:05:57,566 IS FORCED TO SAY. 203 00:05:57,633 --> 00:06:00,166 >> CLEAR WATERS, BLUE SKIES, 204 00:06:00,233 --> 00:06:00,766 SUNSHINE. 205 00:06:00,833 --> 00:06:01,833 IT'S MAGICAL. 206 00:06:01,900 --> 00:06:02,233 SERIOUSLY. 207 00:06:02,300 --> 00:06:03,433 THE PERFECT PLACE TO FALL IN 208 00:06:03,500 --> 00:06:04,100 LOVE. 209 00:06:04,166 --> 00:06:05,333 >> TAHITI IS THE PERFECT PLACE 210 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,066 TO FALL IN LOVE. 211 00:06:07,133 --> 00:06:09,100 >> THE PERFECT PLACE TO FALL IN 212 00:06:09,166 --> 00:06:09,300 LOVE. 213 00:06:09,366 --> 00:06:11,400 >> ST. THOMAS IS THE PERFECT 214 00:06:11,466 --> 00:06:12,233 PLACE TO FOLLOW LOVE. 215 00:06:12,300 --> 00:06:12,933 >> CREATION IS THE PERFECT PLACE 216 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,433 TO FALL IN LOVE. 217 00:06:14,500 --> 00:06:15,833 >> BIMINI IS THE PERFECT PLACE 218 00:06:15,900 --> 00:06:16,600 TO FALL IN LOVE. 219 00:06:16,666 --> 00:06:18,466 >> ISLA IS THE PERFECT PLACE TO 220 00:06:18,533 --> 00:06:19,233 FALL IN LOVE. 221 00:06:19,300 --> 00:06:20,800 >> WISCONSIN IS A PERFECT PLACE 222 00:06:20,866 --> 00:06:21,166 TO FOLLOW LOVE. 223 00:06:21,233 --> 00:06:22,333 >> FORT LAUDERDALE IS A 224 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,300 BEAUTIFUL PLACE UPON LOVE. 225 00:06:24,366 --> 00:06:27,166 PERFECT PLACE, PERFECT PLACE, 226 00:06:27,233 --> 00:06:27,766 PERFECT PLACE FROM A PERFECT 227 00:06:27,833 --> 00:06:28,800 PLACE TO FOLLOW LOVE. 228 00:06:28,866 --> 00:06:30,066 >> I'M IN DEADWOOD, 229 00:06:30,133 --> 00:06:30,466 SOUTH DAKOTA. 230 00:06:30,533 --> 00:06:33,100 THIS IS THE PERFECT PLACE EITHER 231 00:06:33,166 --> 00:06:37,600 FALL IN LOVE OR GET SHOT IN THE 232 00:06:37,666 --> 00:06:37,800 BACK. 233 00:06:37,866 --> 00:06:39,400 >> John: MOVING ON. 234 00:06:39,466 --> 00:06:42,233 OUR MAIN STORY CONCERNS JUSTICE, 235 00:06:42,300 --> 00:06:43,466 THE THING BEST SERVED BY 236 00:06:43,533 --> 00:06:46,000 STEVE HARVEY. 237 00:06:46,066 --> 00:06:48,766 >> THIS COURT IS GOING TO AWARD 238 00:06:48,833 --> 00:06:53,166 YOU A VIP MOMENT. 239 00:06:53,233 --> 00:07:00,600 YOU AND YOUR GIRL AN ADDITIONAL 240 00:07:00,666 --> 00:07:01,700 $5,000. 241 00:07:01,766 --> 00:07:04,100 FROM ME. 242 00:07:04,166 --> 00:07:05,666 AND MY COURT. 243 00:07:05,733 --> 00:07:08,766 YOU TAKE YOUR GIRL TO VEGAS. 244 00:07:08,833 --> 00:07:13,733 PARTY LIKE IT'S 1999. 245 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,600 THAT'S MY VERDICT. 246 00:07:16,666 --> 00:07:19,733 AND THAT'S HOW I SEE IT. 247 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:20,600 >> John: INCREDIBLE. 248 00:07:20,666 --> 00:07:21,266 JUST TOP TO BOTTOM GREAT. 249 00:07:21,333 --> 00:07:21,900 FROM AWARDING A WOMAN A "VIP 250 00:07:21,966 --> 00:07:22,733 MOMENT" AS IF THAT PHRASE MEANS 251 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:23,500 ANYTHING, TO THE ENTIRE GALLERY 252 00:07:23,566 --> 00:07:24,533 CLAPPING FOR THE PLAINTIFF, 253 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,633 INCLUDING THE DEFENDANT, 254 00:07:26,700 --> 00:07:27,533 TO DEMANDING SHE ORGANIZE 255 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,100 A VACATION WITH ALL OF HER 256 00:07:29,166 --> 00:07:29,833 FRIENDS, EVERY GOOGLE CALENDAR'S 257 00:07:29,900 --> 00:07:31,166 NIGHTMARE. 258 00:07:31,233 --> 00:07:34,366 AND THAT'S SAYING NOTHING OF THE 259 00:07:34,433 --> 00:07:35,600 M.V.P. OF THAT CLIP: 260 00:07:35,666 --> 00:07:36,900 STEVE HARVEY'S LITTLE GOLDEN 261 00:07:36,966 --> 00:07:39,933 GAVEL WHICH HE IS MAKING A FULL 262 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,666 FIVE COURSE MEAL OUT OF. 263 00:07:41,733 --> 00:07:42,866 HONESTLY, I WISH I HAD ONE. 264 00:07:42,933 --> 00:07:44,233 WAIT, HOLD ON, I DO. 265 00:07:44,300 --> 00:07:44,833 CLOMP-CLOMP-CLOMP-CLOMP-CLOMP, 266 00:07:44,900 --> 00:07:45,433 ORDER IN THE COURT. 267 00:07:45,500 --> 00:07:46,300 CLOMP CLOMP! 268 00:07:46,366 --> 00:07:48,233 BIG MAN, TINY HAMMER ALERT. 269 00:07:48,300 --> 00:07:49,066 CLOMPITY CLOMP! 270 00:07:49,133 --> 00:07:50,133 I'M A GAVEL GUY NOW. 271 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,366 GET USED TO IT. 272 00:07:52,433 --> 00:07:53,900 SADLY, THOUGH, NOT ALL COURTS 273 00:07:53,966 --> 00:07:54,700 ARE AS INFALLIBLE AS STEVE 274 00:07:54,766 --> 00:07:55,500 HARVEY'S. 275 00:07:55,566 --> 00:07:57,366 AS WE'VE DISCUSSED MANY TIMES ON 276 00:07:57,433 --> 00:07:58,333 THIS SHOW, TRIALS CAN GO AWRY 277 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:59,966 FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, FROM 278 00:08:00,033 --> 00:08:01,433 PROSECUTORIAL MISCONDUCT TO 279 00:08:01,500 --> 00:08:02,300 UNDERFUNDED AND OVERWORKED 280 00:08:02,366 --> 00:08:03,133 PUBLIC DEFENDERS, TO FLAWED JURY 281 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,166 SELECTION, TO HOW WE ELECT 282 00:08:04,233 --> 00:08:04,800 JUDGES, TO PROBLEMS WITH 283 00:08:04,866 --> 00:08:05,700 MANDATORY MINIMUMS, ALL THE WAY 284 00:08:05,766 --> 00:08:09,033 TO FLIMSY JIZZ ANALYSIS. 285 00:08:09,100 --> 00:08:10,633 LUCKILY, AS POP CULTURE HAS 286 00:08:10,700 --> 00:08:11,566 TAUGHT US, THERE'S A REMEDY FOR 287 00:08:11,633 --> 00:08:13,133 WRONGFUL CONVICTIONS, BUILT 288 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:19,000 RIGHT INTO THE SYSTEM. 289 00:08:19,066 --> 00:08:20,933 >> IT ISN'T OVER. 290 00:08:21,033 --> 00:08:23,366 >> I WILL GET THE CONVICTIONS 291 00:08:23,433 --> 00:08:24,833 OVERTURNED ON THE APPEAL. 292 00:08:24,900 --> 00:08:26,800 >> I WILL APPEAL THIS ALL THE 293 00:08:26,866 --> 00:08:27,366 WAY TO THE SUPREME COURT. 294 00:08:27,433 --> 00:08:30,066 >> WE WILL APPEAL THIS. 295 00:08:30,133 --> 00:08:33,666 >> John: OKAY, HOLD ON. 296 00:08:33,733 --> 00:08:34,466 LET'S JUST ACKNOWLEDGE JULIANNA 297 00:08:34,533 --> 00:08:35,766 MARGULIES THERE, BECAUSE SHE IS 298 00:08:35,833 --> 00:08:36,566 CAPITAL "A" ACTING THERE, DOING 299 00:08:36,633 --> 00:08:37,133 ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING WITH 300 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:37,566 ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. 301 00:08:37,633 --> 00:08:38,733 JULIANNA MARGULIES IS DOING MORE 302 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,066 IN THIS THREE SECOND CLIP THAN 303 00:08:40,133 --> 00:08:41,833 THE ROCK HAS DONE IN HIS ENTIRE 304 00:08:41,900 --> 00:08:42,066 CAREER. 305 00:08:42,133 --> 00:08:44,433 YOU HEARD ME. 306 00:08:44,500 --> 00:08:45,766 I SAID WHAT I SAID. 307 00:08:45,833 --> 00:08:46,466 THE ROCK HAS 308 00:08:46,533 --> 00:08:48,966 OFFICIALLY BEEN CLOMPED. 309 00:08:49,033 --> 00:08:50,600 THE IDEA THAT YOU CAN SIMPLY 310 00:08:50,666 --> 00:08:51,933 FIGHT A WRONGFUL CONVICTION AND 311 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,666 GET EXONERATED RUNS DEEP. 312 00:08:53,733 --> 00:08:54,966 BUT THE TRUTH IS, IT'S FAR MORE 313 00:08:55,033 --> 00:08:56,666 DIFFICULT THAN YOU MIGHT EXPECT. 314 00:08:56,733 --> 00:08:58,100 EVEN IF THERE'S COMPELLING 315 00:08:58,166 --> 00:09:01,300 EVIDENCE YOU'RE INNOCENT. 316 00:09:01,366 --> 00:09:01,866 TAKE LAMAR JOHNSON, WHO WAS 317 00:09:01,933 --> 00:09:03,233 CONVICTED IN 1995 OF MURDER. 318 00:09:03,300 --> 00:09:03,866 BUT BETWEEN HIS CONVICTION, AND 319 00:09:03,933 --> 00:09:05,133 HIS SENTENCING, ONE OF THE REAL 320 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,733 KILLERS WROTE HIM A LETTER THAT 321 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,333 YOU'D THINK WOULD'VE CHANGED 322 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,400 EVERYTHING. 323 00:09:12,466 --> 00:09:13,600 >> THE LETTER OPENS BY SAYING 324 00:09:13,666 --> 00:09:15,766 IT'S PRETTY MUCH MESSED UP 325 00:09:15,833 --> 00:09:17,600 JOHNSON WAS CONVICTED WHEN HE 326 00:09:17,666 --> 00:09:18,300 DIDN'T DO ANYTHING AND THAT 327 00:09:18,366 --> 00:09:19,900 EXPLAINS WHO DID IT AND WHAT 328 00:09:19,966 --> 00:09:20,600 HAPPENED. 329 00:09:20,666 --> 00:09:21,966 BELIEVE IT OR NOT, EVEN WITH THE 330 00:09:22,033 --> 00:09:25,566 LETTER, THIS IS STILL THE 331 00:09:25,633 --> 00:09:27,300 JUSTICE SYSTEM TRYING TO FIGURE 332 00:09:27,366 --> 00:09:29,300 OUT HOW TO FREE AN INNOCENT MAN. 333 00:09:29,366 --> 00:09:30,466 >> I NEVER EXPECTED THAT THIS 334 00:09:30,533 --> 00:09:31,866 CASE WOULD GO THE WAY THAT IT 335 00:09:31,933 --> 00:09:37,233 DID, THAT I WOULD END UP CHARGED 336 00:09:37,300 --> 00:09:38,433 MUCH LESS CONVICTED AND BE HERE 337 00:09:38,500 --> 00:09:39,700 FOR THE LAST 20 SOME YEARS 338 00:09:39,766 --> 00:09:43,633 TRYING TO PROVE I DIDN'T DO IT. 339 00:09:43,700 --> 00:09:44,433 >> John: OKAY, A LOT TO UNPACK 340 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:44,633 THERE. 341 00:09:44,700 --> 00:09:45,300 FROM THE FACT THAT LETTER DIDN'T 342 00:09:45,366 --> 00:09:45,933 SAY IT WAS "MESSED UP," IT SAID 343 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:46,366 IT WAS "FUCKED UP." 344 00:09:46,433 --> 00:09:46,966 TO THE FACT IT OPENED WITH 345 00:09:47,033 --> 00:09:47,566 "WHAT'S UP, DUDE." 346 00:09:47,633 --> 00:09:48,200 WHICH IS A WEIRD WAY TO GREET A 347 00:09:48,266 --> 00:09:49,600 PERSON WHO'S IN PRISON FOR 348 00:09:49,666 --> 00:09:50,000 SOMETHING YOU DID. 349 00:09:50,066 --> 00:09:51,900 HOW'D HE EXPECT JOHNSON TO 350 00:09:51,966 --> 00:09:53,933 "OH, NOT MUCH, YOU?" 351 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,666 BUT IT'S NOT JUST THAT LETTER -- 352 00:09:55,733 --> 00:10:07,066 BOTH THE REAL KILLERS HAVE NOW 353 00:10:07,133 --> 00:10:09,466 SIGNED MULTIPLE AFFIDAVITS. 354 00:10:09,533 --> 00:10:10,333 THAT'S AN AUTOMATIC GET OF JAIL 355 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:11,333 FREE CARD, UNFORTUNATELY, LIFE 356 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,100 ISN'T A GAME OF MONOPOLY. 357 00:10:12,166 --> 00:10:12,766 FOR ONE THING, NO ONE THESE DAYS 358 00:10:12,833 --> 00:10:13,600 CAN AFFORD TO BUY PROPERTY AND 359 00:10:13,666 --> 00:10:14,700 TOP HATS ARE ONLY WORN BY AMY 360 00:10:14,766 --> 00:10:15,366 SHERMAN PALLADINO AND THE 361 00:10:15,433 --> 00:10:17,300 BABADOOK. 362 00:10:17,366 --> 00:10:18,900 SO AS OF NOW, JOHNSON IS STILL 363 00:10:18,966 --> 00:10:20,033 IN PRISON, AND IT'S VERY MUCH UP 364 00:10:20,100 --> 00:10:20,600 IN THE AIR WHETHER HE'LL GET 365 00:10:20,666 --> 00:10:22,733 OUT. 366 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:23,366 AND IF YOU'RE WONDERING HOW THE 367 00:10:23,433 --> 00:10:25,033 FUCK THAT CAN BE THE CASE, 368 00:10:25,100 --> 00:10:27,433 THAT'S WHAT OUR STORY TONIGHT'S 369 00:10:27,500 --> 00:10:27,633 ABOUT. 370 00:10:27,700 --> 00:10:29,300 IT CONCERNS ALL THE REASONS WHY, 371 00:10:29,366 --> 00:10:30,233 IF YOU'RE WRONGFULLY CONVICTED 372 00:10:30,300 --> 00:10:31,900 - - EVEN IF THERE'S COMPELLING 373 00:10:31,966 --> 00:10:32,700 EVIDENCE OF YOUR INNOCENCE -- 374 00:10:32,766 --> 00:10:33,200 IT'S REALLY HARD TO BE 375 00:10:33,266 --> 00:10:35,033 EXONERATED. 376 00:10:35,100 --> 00:10:36,600 AND LET'S START WITH THE FACT 377 00:10:36,666 --> 00:10:37,600 THE CONSTITUTION GUARANTEES THE 378 00:10:37,666 --> 00:10:38,200 WRIT OF HABEAS CORPUS WHICH IS 379 00:10:38,266 --> 00:10:38,766 TO PROTECT AGAINST UNLAWFUL 380 00:10:38,833 --> 00:10:40,566 IMPRISONMENT. 381 00:10:40,633 --> 00:10:41,333 BASICALLY, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO 382 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,233 CHALLENGE YOUR INCARCERATION. 383 00:10:43,300 --> 00:10:44,966 AND YOU CAN DO THAT IN BOTH 384 00:10:45,033 --> 00:10:46,500 STATE AND FEDERAL COURT. 385 00:10:46,566 --> 00:10:47,200 BUT AS THIS DEFENSE ATTORNEY 386 00:10:47,266 --> 00:10:48,933 EXPLAINS, THERE'S A MAJOR 387 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,800 LIMITATION ON THAT RIGHT: 388 00:10:53,866 --> 00:10:56,466 >> IT'S NOT JUST ENOUGH TO BE 389 00:10:56,533 --> 00:10:56,733 INNOCENT. 390 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:57,333 THAT DOESN'T GET YOU ANYWHERE. 391 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,866 YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING ELSE 392 00:10:59,933 --> 00:11:03,133 TO BE ABLE TO GET BACK ON. 393 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:04,066 >> John: YEAH, IT'S TRUE. 394 00:11:04,133 --> 00:11:04,766 IN GENERAL, INNOCENCE ITSELF IS 395 00:11:04,833 --> 00:11:06,100 NOT AN APPEALABLE ISSUE. 396 00:11:06,166 --> 00:11:07,200 SO SHOCKING, IT MIGHT 397 00:11:07,266 --> 00:11:11,966 PROMPT YOU TO GO NOW, WHAT YOU 398 00:11:12,033 --> 00:11:13,766 - - SHE WAS IN THE BACKGROUND OF 399 00:11:13,833 --> 00:11:15,466 THAT SCENE GIVING AT THAT KIND 400 00:11:15,533 --> 00:11:16,033 OF COMMITMENT. 401 00:11:16,100 --> 00:11:17,733 WHAT YOU CAN APPEAL ON THIS IN A 402 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,066 SHOCKING NEW EVIDENCE THAT 403 00:11:19,133 --> 00:11:20,400 WASN'T AVAILABLE DURING YOUR 404 00:11:20,466 --> 00:11:21,733 ORIGINAL TRIAL OR CLAIM THEIR 405 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,166 CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS WERE 406 00:11:24,233 --> 00:11:26,266 VIOLATED. 407 00:11:26,333 --> 00:11:27,366 AND THAT'S ALREADY A LONG SHOT. 408 00:11:27,433 --> 00:11:28,066 ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WHILE YOU 409 00:11:28,133 --> 00:11:28,733 HAVE THE RIGHT TO AN ATTORNEY AT 410 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:29,366 YOUR ORIGINAL TRIAL, YOU'RE NOT 411 00:11:29,433 --> 00:11:29,900 GUARANTEED ONE AFTER YOUR 412 00:11:29,966 --> 00:11:30,566 CONVICTION. 413 00:11:30,633 --> 00:11:31,200 MOST STATES DO PROVIDE ONE IN 414 00:11:31,266 --> 00:11:31,833 DEATH PENALTY CASES, BUT EVEN 415 00:11:31,900 --> 00:11:33,400 THEN, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THEY 416 00:11:33,466 --> 00:11:34,666 BE COMPETENT. 417 00:11:34,733 --> 00:11:35,800 AND ATTORNEYS CAN BE 418 00:11:35,866 --> 00:11:36,933 INCOMPETENT. 419 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,066 TAKE GEDDES ANDERSON. 420 00:11:38,133 --> 00:11:39,633 HE REPRESENTED A MAN NAMED 421 00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:41,366 EDWARD LEE ELMORE IN A MURDER 422 00:11:41,433 --> 00:11:43,100 CASE AND LOST IT. 423 00:11:43,166 --> 00:11:44,300 ELMORE WAS SENTENCED TO DEATH, 424 00:11:44,366 --> 00:11:45,033 AND WHILE ON DEATH ROW, APPEALED 425 00:11:45,100 --> 00:11:45,900 HIS CONVICTION. 426 00:11:45,966 --> 00:11:47,333 HE PETITIONED FOR A DIFFERENT 427 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:48,833 LAWYER, BUT WAS TOLD HE HAD TO 428 00:11:48,900 --> 00:11:49,500 STICK WITH ANDERSON, WHO'D ONLY 429 00:11:49,566 --> 00:11:52,000 SPENT EIGHT DAYS PREPARING FOR 430 00:11:52,066 --> 00:11:53,800 HIS TRIAL AND WHO CAN ONLY BE 431 00:11:53,866 --> 00:11:54,933 DESCRIBED AS THE MOST TENNESSEE 432 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,533 WILLIAMS OF CHARACTERS. 433 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,166 >> IN RETROSPECT, PERHAPS I 434 00:12:02,233 --> 00:12:06,266 SHOULD HAVE ASKED FOR MORE TIME. 435 00:12:06,333 --> 00:12:08,266 I NEVER PROCLAIMED TO BE THE 436 00:12:08,333 --> 00:12:09,233 BEST LAWYER THAT EVER GRACED THE 437 00:12:09,300 --> 00:12:14,833 COURTROOM. 438 00:12:14,900 --> 00:12:16,266 >> John: WELL, THAT'S NOT GREAT. 439 00:12:16,333 --> 00:12:16,900 THE ONLY THING WORSE THAN BEING 440 00:12:16,966 --> 00:12:17,466 A BAD LAWYER IS BEING A BAD 441 00:12:17,533 --> 00:12:18,233 LAWYER WITH LOW SELF-ESTEEM. 442 00:12:18,300 --> 00:12:18,933 IN THE WORDS OF RUPAUL, IF YOU 443 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:19,566 CAN'T DEFEND YOURSELF, HOW IN 444 00:12:19,633 --> 00:12:20,933 THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO DEFEND 445 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,233 SOMEBODY ELSE? 446 00:12:24,300 --> 00:12:26,166 YOU DO NEED AN EXCEPTIONALLY 447 00:12:26,233 --> 00:12:28,166 GOOD ATTORNEY FOR AN APPEAL. 448 00:12:28,233 --> 00:12:29,533 POSTCONVICTION LAWS AND 449 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:30,033 CURRENTLY DIFFICULT TO 450 00:12:30,100 --> 00:12:30,900 UNDERSTAND EVEN FOR A SEASONED 451 00:12:30,966 --> 00:12:32,666 ATTORNEY AND YOU WANT TO GET IT 452 00:12:32,733 --> 00:12:33,700 RIGHT BECAUSE ANY TECHNICAL 453 00:12:33,766 --> 00:12:34,400 ERROR COULD RESULT IN YOUR 454 00:12:34,466 --> 00:12:38,433 APPEAL BEING DISMISSED. 455 00:12:38,500 --> 00:12:39,200 SO MANY WRONGFUL CONVICTION 456 00:12:39,266 --> 00:12:40,133 CASES ARE WON OR LOST ON 457 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:40,766 TECHNICALITIES. 458 00:12:40,833 --> 00:12:41,300 EVEN ONES THAT ARE PRETTY 459 00:12:41,366 --> 00:12:41,966 COMPELLING! 460 00:12:42,033 --> 00:12:42,666 TAKE RICKY KIDD, A MAN 461 00:12:42,733 --> 00:12:43,966 WRONGFULLY CONVICTED OF MURDER 462 00:12:44,033 --> 00:12:45,066 IN 1997 DESPITE THE FACT THAT 463 00:12:45,133 --> 00:12:45,700 NO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE LINKED HIM 464 00:12:45,766 --> 00:12:46,733 TO THE MURDERS. 465 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,066 THE CASE AGAINST HIM WAS 466 00:12:48,133 --> 00:12:49,400 LITTERED WITH POLICE 467 00:12:49,466 --> 00:12:50,000 INCOMPETENCE AND PROSECUTORIAL 468 00:12:50,066 --> 00:12:51,166 MISCONDUCT. 469 00:12:51,233 --> 00:12:53,166 AND HIS OWN LAWYER FAILED TO 470 00:12:53,233 --> 00:12:54,066 CHASE DOWN EXONERATING EVIDENCE, 471 00:12:54,133 --> 00:12:55,700 SUCH AS THE FACT THAT, AROUND 472 00:12:55,766 --> 00:12:56,800 THE TIME THE MURDER TOOK PLACE, 473 00:12:56,866 --> 00:12:57,833 KIDD WAS IN A SHERIFF'S OFFICE, 474 00:12:57,900 --> 00:12:59,633 APPLYING FOR A GUN PERMIT. 475 00:12:59,700 --> 00:13:02,900 WHICH IS A PRETTY SOLID ALIBI. 476 00:13:02,966 --> 00:13:04,566 KIDD'S BEST GROUNDS TO APPEAL 477 00:13:04,633 --> 00:13:05,333 WERE THAT HE HAD INEFFECTIVE 478 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,133 COUNSEL AT HIS FIRST TRIAL. 479 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,600 BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN HIS NEW 480 00:13:08,666 --> 00:13:10,400 LAWYERS FILED THAT APPEAL, THEY 481 00:13:10,466 --> 00:13:12,600 FAILED TO INCLUDE THAT ARGUMENT. 482 00:13:12,666 --> 00:13:13,233 SO THE STATE FOUGHT TO KEEP HIM 483 00:13:13,300 --> 00:13:14,400 LOCKED UP. 484 00:13:14,466 --> 00:13:15,666 WHICH IS BOTH OUTRAGEOUS, AND 485 00:13:15,733 --> 00:13:18,000 SOMETHING THE ASSISTANT STATE 486 00:13:18,066 --> 00:13:19,100 A.G. WAS COMICALLY UNWILLING TO 487 00:13:19,166 --> 00:13:22,966 DISCUSS. 488 00:13:23,033 --> 00:13:24,933 >> DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERN THAT A 489 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,400 POLICE COMMISSIONER AND FORMER 490 00:13:26,466 --> 00:13:29,966 PROSECUTOR SAY HE'S INNOCENT? 491 00:13:30,033 --> 00:13:32,800 >> YOUR NAME IS HERE IN THE 492 00:13:32,866 --> 00:13:33,566 COURT DOCUMENT. 493 00:13:33,633 --> 00:13:35,833 WE ARE NOT EVEN ARGUING THAT 494 00:13:35,900 --> 00:13:36,433 HE'S GUILTY. 495 00:13:36,500 --> 00:13:38,033 JUST TECHNICALITIES THAT HE 496 00:13:38,100 --> 00:13:38,833 MISSED HIS CHANCE TO PROPERLY 497 00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:43,300 APPEAL. 498 00:13:43,366 --> 00:13:44,000 YOU DON'T SEEM CONCERNED ABOUT 499 00:13:44,066 --> 00:13:44,900 THIS. 500 00:13:44,966 --> 00:13:49,866 DO YOU EVEN THINK HE'S GUILTY? 501 00:13:49,933 --> 00:13:50,600 NO ANSWER? 502 00:13:50,666 --> 00:13:52,300 YOU'RE SPENDING TAXPAYER MONEY 503 00:13:52,366 --> 00:13:53,733 TO FIGHT THIS CASE. 504 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,466 YOU'RE KEEPING HIM LOCKED UP IN 505 00:13:55,533 --> 00:13:55,733 PRISON. 506 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,166 IS THAT THE BEST USE OF TAXPAYER 507 00:13:58,233 --> 00:13:58,566 MONEY? 508 00:13:58,633 --> 00:14:02,966 >> Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY, SIR. 509 00:14:03,033 --> 00:14:03,833 >> John: WOW. 510 00:14:03,900 --> 00:14:04,600 I'M CONFLICTED THERE. 511 00:14:04,666 --> 00:14:05,100 OBVIOUSLY THAT MAN IS 512 00:14:05,166 --> 00:14:05,566 A HEARTLESS MONSTER, 513 00:14:05,633 --> 00:14:06,200 SMIRKING LIKE A WAX STATUE OF 514 00:14:06,266 --> 00:14:07,200 PAUL GIAMATTI WHEN A MAN'S LIFE 515 00:14:07,266 --> 00:14:07,533 IS AT STAKE. 516 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:08,200 BUT I DO RESPECT HIS ICE COLD 517 00:14:08,266 --> 00:14:09,933 ATTEMPT AT IGNORING SMALL TALK 518 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:10,966 IN AN ELEVATOR. 519 00:14:11,033 --> 00:14:12,033 ELEVATORS ARE FLYING COFFINS 520 00:14:12,100 --> 00:14:13,100 THAT DEMAND TOTAL SILENCE FROM 521 00:14:13,166 --> 00:14:16,800 EACH OF THEIR PALLBEARERS. 522 00:14:16,866 --> 00:14:18,033 WE HAVE TO REACH AGREEMENT. 523 00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:19,066 AND WHILE IT'S NOT IMPORTANT, 524 00:14:19,133 --> 00:14:19,600 QUICK SHOUT-OUT TO THE GUY 525 00:14:19,666 --> 00:14:20,800 WAVING AT THE CAMERA IN THE 526 00:14:20,866 --> 00:14:21,400 BACKGROUND THERE. 527 00:14:21,466 --> 00:14:23,033 HEY, BUDDY! 528 00:14:23,100 --> 00:14:24,233 HEY, BET YOU HAD NO IDEA AT THE 529 00:14:24,300 --> 00:14:25,266 TIME THAT YOUR WAVE WAS 530 00:14:25,333 --> 00:14:26,833 UNDERSCORING A GROTESQUE FAILURE 531 00:14:26,900 --> 00:14:27,566 OF OUR ENTIRE JUDICIAL SYSTEM! 532 00:14:27,633 --> 00:14:28,400 BUT IT WAS! 533 00:14:28,466 --> 00:14:29,300 IT WAS! 534 00:14:29,366 --> 00:14:31,433 BYE! 535 00:14:31,500 --> 00:14:33,066 BUT THAT ACTUALLY BRINGS US TO A 536 00:14:33,133 --> 00:14:34,166 KEY POINT HERE, WHICH IS, WHEN 537 00:14:34,233 --> 00:14:35,300 THE WHOLE CRIMINAL JUSTICE 538 00:14:35,366 --> 00:14:36,466 SYSTEM IS GEARED TOWARD GETTING 539 00:14:36,533 --> 00:14:37,266 A CONVICTION, IT HAS LITTLE 540 00:14:37,333 --> 00:14:39,266 INTEREST IN SEEING ITS WORK 541 00:14:39,333 --> 00:14:41,000 UNDONE. 542 00:14:41,066 --> 00:14:42,166 SO, FOR INSTANCE, I MENTIONED 543 00:14:42,233 --> 00:14:43,500 EARLIER THAT ONE OF THE FEW WAYS 544 00:14:43,566 --> 00:14:44,800 TO GET A POST-CONVICTION APPEAL 545 00:14:44,866 --> 00:14:45,733 IS TO ARGUE THAT YOU HAVE NEW 546 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:46,966 EVIDENCE TO INTRODUCE. 547 00:14:47,033 --> 00:14:48,533 BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO BE ABLE TO 548 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:49,800 SHOW THAT IT WOULD HAVE CHANGED 549 00:14:49,866 --> 00:14:51,433 THE OUTCOME AT YOUR TRIAL. 550 00:14:51,500 --> 00:14:52,166 AND PROSECUTORS WILL FIGHT THAT 551 00:14:52,233 --> 00:14:54,366 NOTION HARD. 552 00:14:54,433 --> 00:14:56,166 WHEN ONE OF THE WEST MEMPHIS 553 00:14:56,233 --> 00:14:58,833 THREE TRIED TO GET A NEW TRIAL, 554 00:14:58,900 --> 00:15:01,333 BASED ON NEW EVIDENCE, 555 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:02,300 INCLUDING DNA, AN ASSISTANT 556 00:15:02,366 --> 00:15:03,800 A.G. APPEARED BEFORE THE STATE'S 557 00:15:03,866 --> 00:15:04,566 SUPREME COURT TO TRY AND TALK 558 00:15:04,633 --> 00:15:05,133 THEM OUT OF CONSIDERING IT, 559 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:11,200 CITING THE HARM THAT COULD DO. 560 00:15:11,266 --> 00:15:13,733 >> WHAT HARM IS THERE ALLOWING 561 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:14,800 HIM TO PRESENT ALL EVIDENCE? 562 00:15:14,866 --> 00:15:17,733 >> THE HARM IS IN THE FINALITY 563 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,333 OF THE CRIMINAL JUDGMENT NOT 564 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:21,566 DEMONSTRATED TO HAVE ANY 565 00:15:21,633 --> 00:15:22,200 CONSTITUTIONAL OR PROCEDURAL 566 00:15:22,266 --> 00:15:25,400 DEFENSE AND JUST TRY IT AGAIN. 567 00:15:25,466 --> 00:15:27,466 YOU'RE SUGGESTING. 568 00:15:27,533 --> 00:15:28,900 AS THOUGH EVERY 15 OR 17 YEARS 569 00:15:28,966 --> 00:15:32,066 OR SO WE OUGHT TO TRY CASES 570 00:15:32,133 --> 00:15:32,633 AGAIN TO REESTABLISH GUILT. 571 00:15:32,700 --> 00:15:37,566 THE HARM IS TO THE CRIMINAL 572 00:15:37,633 --> 00:15:39,533 JUSTICE SYSTEMS INTEREST IN 573 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,333 FINALITY. 574 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:41,966 >> John: HOLD ON. 575 00:15:42,033 --> 00:15:42,900 THE HARM IS TO THE 576 00:15:42,966 --> 00:15:43,566 "FINALITY?" 577 00:15:43,633 --> 00:15:44,466 BUT IF THE FINAL DECISION COULD 578 00:15:44,533 --> 00:15:45,233 BE WRONG, YOU SHOULD WANT TO 579 00:15:45,300 --> 00:15:45,800 MAKE SURE YOU GOT IT RIGHT. 580 00:15:45,866 --> 00:15:46,566 THERE'S A REASON LA LA LAND 581 00:15:46,633 --> 00:15:47,966 DIDN'T JUST KEEP THE OSCAR AFTER 582 00:15:48,033 --> 00:15:48,800 FAYE DUNAWAY AND WARREN BEATTY 583 00:15:48,866 --> 00:15:49,766 SKIN SMILED THEIR WAY THROUGH 584 00:15:49,833 --> 00:15:50,566 THAT MISTAKE. 585 00:15:50,633 --> 00:15:55,733 BUT WHILE, THANKFULLY, THOSE 586 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,200 JUDGES WERE SKEPTICAL -- 587 00:15:57,266 --> 00:15:58,000 MANY DEFER TO PROSECUTORS. 588 00:15:58,066 --> 00:15:58,966 THAT WAS THE CASE WITH EDWARD 589 00:15:59,033 --> 00:15:59,733 LEE ELMORE, THE GUY WHOSE 590 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:00,366 INITIAL LAWYER WAS INSECURE 591 00:16:00,433 --> 00:16:01,200 FOGHORN LEGHORN. 592 00:16:01,266 --> 00:16:02,766 THE KEY EVIDENCE AGAINST HIM 593 00:16:02,833 --> 00:16:04,000 WERE HAIRS AT A MURDER SCENE 594 00:16:04,066 --> 00:16:04,866 THAT POLICE CLAIMED WERE OF 595 00:16:04,933 --> 00:16:05,866 AFRICAN AMERICAN DESCENT. 596 00:16:05,933 --> 00:16:07,033 BUT THERE WERE NO PHOTOS OF 597 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:08,833 THOSE HAIRS AT THE SCENE -- 598 00:16:08,900 --> 00:16:10,266 WHICH IS ALREADY SUSPICIOUS, AND 599 00:16:10,333 --> 00:16:11,933 THE STATE LATER FOUND A BOX OF 600 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,133 EVIDENCE, PREVIOUSLY CLAIMED TO 601 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,833 BE MISSING BY POLICE, THAT 602 00:16:15,900 --> 00:16:16,333 CONTAINED CAUCASIAN HAIR 603 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:17,766 RECOVERED FROM THE VICTIM'S BODY 604 00:16:17,833 --> 00:16:18,933 DURING HER AUTOPSY. 605 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,500 BUT WHEN THE JUDGE WAS PRESENTED 606 00:16:20,566 --> 00:16:21,766 WITH THIS PRETTY IMPORTANT NEW 607 00:16:21,833 --> 00:16:22,633 INFORMATION, HE SIMPLY WASN'T 608 00:16:22,700 --> 00:16:28,766 INTERESTED. 609 00:16:28,833 --> 00:16:29,333 >> THIS IS A COMPLETELY 610 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,166 DIFFERENT CASE THAN WHAT THE 611 00:16:31,233 --> 00:16:31,900 JURY HEARD. 612 00:16:31,966 --> 00:16:33,366 THIS IS NOT ENOUGH TO GRANT 613 00:16:33,433 --> 00:16:36,200 SOMEBODY A NEW TRIAL. 614 00:16:36,266 --> 00:16:40,500 >> UNEXPECTEDLY RATHER THAN 615 00:16:40,566 --> 00:16:41,266 ADJOURN AND READ THE FILINGS 616 00:16:41,333 --> 00:16:43,066 BEFORE RULING, THE JUDGE ISSUED 617 00:16:43,133 --> 00:16:45,600 HIS DECISION ON THE SPOT. 618 00:16:45,666 --> 00:16:51,766 >> ALL MOTIONS ARE DENIED. 619 00:16:51,833 --> 00:16:52,566 >> John: OH, IT GETS WORSE. 620 00:16:52,633 --> 00:16:53,200 THAT JUDGE WENT ON TO SAY THAT, 621 00:16:53,266 --> 00:16:54,500 OBVIOUSLY, THE EVIDENCE SHOULD 622 00:16:54,566 --> 00:16:55,133 HAVE BEEN DISCLOSED TO COUNSEL, 623 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:55,700 BUT AS FAR AS IMPACTING THE 624 00:16:55,766 --> 00:16:56,333 ORIGINAL VERDICT, I DON'T THINK 625 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:56,933 IT WOULD HAVE, AND IN CLOSING, 626 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:57,400 HE SAID, "GOOD LUCK TO 627 00:16:57,466 --> 00:16:58,000 EVERYBODY, I'M OUT OF HERE." 628 00:16:58,066 --> 00:16:58,633 WHICH IS A TERRIBLE WAY TO WRAP 629 00:16:58,700 --> 00:17:00,066 UP A COURT PROCEEDING. 630 00:17:00,133 --> 00:17:07,466 THE BEST, OF COURSE, BEING THIS: 631 00:17:07,533 --> 00:17:08,966 >> THAT'S MY VERDICT AND THAT'S 632 00:17:09,033 --> 00:17:12,033 HOW I SEE IT. 633 00:17:12,100 --> 00:17:13,166 >> John: UNIMPEACHABLE. 634 00:17:13,233 --> 00:17:14,200 BUT THE THING IS, A QUICK RULING 635 00:17:14,266 --> 00:17:15,366 LIKE THAT ISN'T UNUSUAL. 636 00:17:15,433 --> 00:17:16,500 MANY TIMES, APPEALS JUDGES WILL 637 00:17:16,566 --> 00:17:17,133 JUST SIGN THE STATE PROSECUTOR'S 638 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,500 DOCUMENTS WITHOUT EVEN CHANGING 639 00:17:18,566 --> 00:17:20,433 THE HEADING. 640 00:17:20,500 --> 00:17:21,166 ONE STUDY LOOKED AT 641 00:17:21,233 --> 00:17:21,766 POST-CONVICTION APPEALS IN THE 642 00:17:21,833 --> 00:17:22,333 LARGEST COUNTY IN TEXAS AND 643 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,933 FOUND JUDGES ADOPTED THE 644 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:25,700 PROSECUTORS FINDINGS VERBATIM IN 645 00:17:25,766 --> 00:17:29,000 96% OF THEIR RULINGS. 646 00:17:29,066 --> 00:17:30,800 AND IF, AT THIS POINT, IT SEEMS 647 00:17:30,866 --> 00:17:32,033 LIKE OUR WHOLE SYSTEM IS SET UP 648 00:17:32,100 --> 00:17:33,033 TO PRESERVE ITS PROCESS -- EVEN 649 00:17:33,100 --> 00:17:34,466 AT THE COST OF HUMAN LIFE -- 650 00:17:34,533 --> 00:17:36,366 WELL, DURING ONE DEATH ROW 651 00:17:36,433 --> 00:17:38,166 APPEAL BEFORE THE MISSOURI 652 00:17:38,233 --> 00:17:41,566 SUPREME COURT, FOR THIS MAN, JOE 653 00:17:41,633 --> 00:17:42,266 AMRINE, ONE ASSISTANT A.G. 654 00:17:42,333 --> 00:17:46,400 BASICALLY ADMITTED AS MUCH. 655 00:17:46,466 --> 00:17:50,333 >> YOU ARE SUGGESTING IF WE 656 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,533 DON'T FIND THERE'S A 657 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:52,133 CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATION THEN 658 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,766 EVEN IF WE FIND THAT HE IS 659 00:17:54,833 --> 00:17:56,700 INNOCENT, THAT HE SHOULD BE 660 00:17:56,766 --> 00:17:57,333 EXECUTED? 661 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:58,700 >> THE U.S. SUPREME COURT. 662 00:17:58,766 --> 00:18:02,733 >> IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE ARGUING? 663 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:03,533 >> John: HOLY SHIT. 664 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:04,266 YOU KNOW YOU'RE ON THE WRONG 665 00:18:04,333 --> 00:18:04,966 SIDE OF AN ARGUMENT WHEN YOU'RE 666 00:18:05,033 --> 00:18:05,600 ASKED, "SHOULD INNOCENT PEOPLE 667 00:18:05,666 --> 00:18:06,466 BE EXECUTED?" 668 00:18:06,533 --> 00:18:07,366 AND YOU SAY, "THAT'S CORRECT, 669 00:18:07,433 --> 00:18:08,666 YOUR HONOR." 670 00:18:08,733 --> 00:18:10,500 THAT'S THE KIND OF QUESTION THAT 671 00:18:10,566 --> 00:18:11,733 HAS ONLY ONE RIGHT ANSWER, LIKE 672 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:12,666 "IS THE QUEEN DEAD?" 673 00:18:12,733 --> 00:18:14,700 THE OBVIOUS ANSWER TO THAT 674 00:18:14,766 --> 00:18:16,766 BEING, YES, SHE'S BEEN DEAD 675 00:18:16,833 --> 00:18:17,100 SINCE 2007. 676 00:18:17,166 --> 00:18:21,100 AND IT'S A GOOD THING. 677 00:18:21,166 --> 00:18:21,800 IT'S A GOOD THING. 678 00:18:21,866 --> 00:18:25,200 IT'S A GOOD THING. 679 00:18:25,266 --> 00:18:26,433 ORDER IN THE COURT. 680 00:18:26,500 --> 00:18:27,166 AND SO FAR, EVERYTHING WE'VE 681 00:18:27,233 --> 00:18:27,800 DISCUSSED HAS BEEN AT THE STATE 682 00:18:27,866 --> 00:18:28,200 LEVEL. 683 00:18:28,266 --> 00:18:29,100 BUT WHAT ABOUT IF YOU APPEAL UP 684 00:18:29,166 --> 00:18:30,100 TO FEDERAL COURT? 685 00:18:30,166 --> 00:18:32,600 WELL, IN SOME CASES, THEY DO 686 00:18:32,666 --> 00:18:33,200 STEP IN TO OVERTURN EGREGIOUS 687 00:18:33,266 --> 00:18:34,100 CONVICTIONS. 688 00:18:34,166 --> 00:18:35,333 BUT AS THIS DEFENSE ATTORNEY 689 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:35,966 WILL TELL YOU, THAT IS VERY MUCH 690 00:18:36,033 --> 00:18:40,933 THE EXCEPTION. 691 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,600 >> WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THE 692 00:18:42,666 --> 00:18:44,333 ROLE OF AN APPEALS COURT IS TO 693 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,933 GET IT RIGHT AND IF IT GETS IT 694 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,300 WRONG, THAT IT WILL BE FIXED 695 00:18:48,366 --> 00:18:49,366 DOWN THE ROAD IN THE SYSTEM. 696 00:18:49,433 --> 00:18:50,633 THAT'S THE BELIEF WE ALL HAVE IN 697 00:18:50,700 --> 00:18:52,133 THE SYSTEM. 698 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,233 IF SOME COURT TO GETS IT WRONG, 699 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:55,200 ANOTHER COURT IS GOING TO COME 700 00:18:55,266 --> 00:18:58,200 ALONG AND SET IT RIGHT. 701 00:18:58,266 --> 00:18:59,733 FEDERAL COURTS CAN ONLY GRANT 702 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,633 RELIEF OF THE STATE COURT WAS 703 00:19:01,700 --> 00:19:02,933 UNREASONABLY WRONG, SO WRONG 704 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,866 THAT NO OTHER JUDGE, NO OTHER 705 00:19:04,933 --> 00:19:06,866 FAIR-MINDED JUDGE COULD POSSIBLY 706 00:19:06,933 --> 00:19:08,633 AGREE. 707 00:19:08,700 --> 00:19:12,833 THAT IS AN INCREDIBLY HIGH BAR. 708 00:19:12,900 --> 00:19:13,400 >> John: YEAH, IT REALLY IS. 709 00:19:13,466 --> 00:19:14,000 BECAUSE "NO FAIR-MINDED JUDGE 710 00:19:14,066 --> 00:19:15,033 COULD POSSIBLY AGREE" IS A HIGH 711 00:19:15,100 --> 00:19:15,500 BAR TO CLEAR. 712 00:19:15,566 --> 00:19:16,766 REASONABLE PEOPLE DISAGREE ALL 713 00:19:16,833 --> 00:19:18,066 THE TIME, ON ISSUES LIKE WHICH 714 00:19:18,133 --> 00:19:19,766 WAY THE TOILET PAPER ROLL SHOULD 715 00:19:19,833 --> 00:19:20,766 GO OR HOW A TORTOISE WOULD WEAR 716 00:19:20,833 --> 00:19:21,066 CLOTHES. 717 00:19:21,133 --> 00:19:21,833 IS IT OVER THE SHELL? 718 00:19:21,900 --> 00:19:23,666 OR UNDER THE SHELL? 719 00:19:23,733 --> 00:19:24,966 THERE'S A VIBRANT DISCUSSION TO 720 00:19:25,033 --> 00:19:28,566 BE HAD HERE. 721 00:19:28,633 --> 00:19:30,133 THE TRUTH IS FEDERAL COURTS' 722 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,733 HANDS ARE TIED PRETTY TIGHTLY, 723 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,066 BY SOMETHING CALLED AEDPA. 724 00:19:33,133 --> 00:19:34,233 IT STANDS FOR THE ANTI-TERRORISM 725 00:19:34,300 --> 00:19:35,666 AND EFFECTIVE DEATH PENALTY ACT, 726 00:19:35,733 --> 00:19:37,000 - IT WAS PASSED IN THE 1990 - S IN 727 00:19:37,066 --> 00:19:37,800 THE WAKE OF THE OKLAHOMA CITY 728 00:19:37,866 --> 00:19:40,333 BOMBING AND AT THE TIME, THE 729 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,600 JUSTIFICATION FOR IT WAS WE 730 00:19:41,666 --> 00:19:42,433 CAN'T LET TERRORISTS LIKE 731 00:19:42,500 --> 00:19:43,333 TIMOTHY MCVEIGH, OR ANY 732 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:43,966 PRISONERS ON DEATH ROW, APPEAL 733 00:19:44,033 --> 00:19:46,166 THEIR CASES ENDLESSLY. 734 00:19:46,233 --> 00:19:49,700 HERE'S THE ARGUMENT IN A 735 00:19:49,766 --> 00:19:51,500 NUTSHELL. 736 00:19:51,566 --> 00:19:53,966 >> WHAT ABOUT THE FACT THAT MANY 737 00:19:54,033 --> 00:19:56,100 SIT ON DEATH ROW FOR YEARS AND 738 00:19:56,166 --> 00:19:58,433 YEARS AND YEARS WITH ACCESS TO 739 00:19:58,500 --> 00:19:59,000 LIBRARIES AND COMPUTERS AND 740 00:19:59,066 --> 00:20:00,066 EVERYTHING THEY COULD POSSIBLY 741 00:20:00,133 --> 00:20:01,866 NEED SO THEY CONTINUE TO DRAG 742 00:20:01,933 --> 00:20:02,833 OUT THE PROCESS QUESTION LIKE 743 00:20:02,900 --> 00:20:07,866 THERE'S GOT TO BE IN END TO IT. 744 00:20:07,933 --> 00:20:08,666 >> John: OKAY, THAT'S ACTUALLY 745 00:20:08,733 --> 00:20:09,366 AN EVEN WORSE ARGUMENT THAN IT 746 00:20:09,433 --> 00:20:09,766 SEEMS. 747 00:20:09,833 --> 00:20:11,200 THIS WAS 1995. 748 00:20:11,266 --> 00:20:11,800 THE ONLY THINGS COMPUTERS WERE 749 00:20:11,866 --> 00:20:12,466 GOOD FOR BACK THEN WERE 750 00:20:12,533 --> 00:20:13,100 MINESWEEPER AND STILL IMAGES OF 751 00:20:13,166 --> 00:20:14,466 CAL RIPKEN JR. 752 00:20:14,533 --> 00:20:15,366 I'M GUESSING THAT IN 1995, IF 753 00:20:15,433 --> 00:20:19,233 YOU TYPED "POSTCONVICTION HABEAS 754 00:20:19,300 --> 00:20:21,000 - CORPUS APPEAL" INTO LYCOS. - COM 755 00:20:21,066 --> 00:20:21,566 YOUR HARD DRIVE WOULD SPARK 756 00:20:21,633 --> 00:20:23,966 INTO A FULL BLOWN HOUSE FIRE. 757 00:20:24,033 --> 00:20:25,200 SO PRISONERS SOMETIMES HAVING 758 00:20:25,266 --> 00:20:25,766 ACCESS TO COMPUTERS CLEARLY 759 00:20:25,833 --> 00:20:26,800 WASN'T THE REAL PROBLEM HERE. 760 00:20:26,866 --> 00:20:27,700 AND ALTHOUGH AEDPA SOUNDS LIKE 761 00:20:27,766 --> 00:20:29,400 IT ONLY APPLIED TO TERRORISTS 762 00:20:29,466 --> 00:20:30,166 AND DEATH ROW INMATES, 763 00:20:30,233 --> 00:20:31,600 IT APPLIES TO EVERYONE. 764 00:20:31,666 --> 00:20:33,466 AND IN ADDITION TO THAT HIGH BAR 765 00:20:33,533 --> 00:20:36,866 THAT GUTTED FEDERAL REVIEW OF 766 00:20:36,933 --> 00:20:37,400 STATE CONVICTIONS, IT ALSO 767 00:20:37,466 --> 00:20:38,533 IMPOSED A STRICT ONE YEAR 768 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,933 DEADLINE TO FILE A FEDERAL 769 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:40,566 APPEAL ONCE YOUR CONVICTION IS 770 00:20:40,633 --> 00:20:41,700 FINALIZED. 771 00:20:41,766 --> 00:20:43,133 WHICH I KNOW MIGHT SOUND LIKE A 772 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,800 LOT OF TIME, BUT IT REALLY 773 00:20:44,866 --> 00:20:45,966 ISN'T. 774 00:20:46,033 --> 00:20:47,933 A FEDERAL APPEAL IS A MASSIVE 775 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:48,933 UNDERTAKING, OFTEN INVOLVING 776 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,500 DOING NEW RESEARCH, SPEAKING TO 777 00:20:51,566 --> 00:20:52,833 EXPERTS, WITNESSES, PREVIOUS 778 00:20:52,900 --> 00:20:54,200 ATTORNEYS AND INVESTIGATORS, 779 00:20:54,266 --> 00:20:55,733 ONE YEAR CAN NOT BE ENOUGH, AS 780 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,200 PROVEN BY THE FACT THAT, 781 00:20:57,266 --> 00:20:59,233 POST-AEDPA, THE DEADLINE HAD 782 00:20:59,300 --> 00:20:59,966 BEEN MISSED AT LEAST EIGHTY 783 00:21:00,033 --> 00:21:02,200 TIMES IN DEATH ROW CASES. 784 00:21:02,266 --> 00:21:04,033 EIGHTY TIMES, DEATH-ROW 785 00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:05,400 PRISONERS WENT TO THE TROUBLE OF 786 00:21:05,466 --> 00:21:06,366 FILING AN APPEAL, ONLY TO BE 787 00:21:06,433 --> 00:21:07,833 TOLD, "SORRY, TOO LATE, IT 788 00:21:07,900 --> 00:21:09,800 DOESN'T COUNT." 789 00:21:09,866 --> 00:21:10,466 AND EVEN WHEN FILINGS DO COME IN 790 00:21:10,533 --> 00:21:13,266 ON TIME, THAT HIGH BAR MEANS 791 00:21:13,333 --> 00:21:15,100 THEY'RE LESS LIKELY TO BE 792 00:21:15,166 --> 00:21:16,833 SUCCESSFUL TO THE POINT THAT 793 00:21:16,900 --> 00:21:17,433 WHILE, BEFORE AEDPA, 40% OF 794 00:21:17,500 --> 00:21:18,866 DEATH ROW DEFENDANTS SUCCEEDED 795 00:21:18,933 --> 00:21:19,966 IN GETTING THEIR VERDICT OR 796 00:21:20,033 --> 00:21:21,833 SENTENCE OVERTURNED IN FEDERAL 797 00:21:21,900 --> 00:21:23,933 COURT, A DECADE AFTER IT, THAT 798 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,433 RATE HAD DROPPED TO 10%. 799 00:21:28,500 --> 00:21:29,533 AND I WILL SAY THIS. 800 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:30,366 THERE WAS ONE SENATOR WHO SAW 801 00:21:30,433 --> 00:21:31,533 ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS WITH AEDPA 802 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,533 PRETTY CLEARLY, AND WARNED 803 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,800 AGAINST WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN. 804 00:21:37,866 --> 00:21:40,766 >> THIS JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE 805 00:21:40,833 --> 00:21:42,233 IN MY VIEW, MR. PRESIDENT. 806 00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:44,000 AS A PRACTICAL MATTER OR MATTER 807 00:21:44,066 --> 00:21:44,333 OF PRINCIPLE. 808 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,166 WE SHOULD NOT IN OUR HASTE TO 809 00:21:48,233 --> 00:21:48,833 HURRY UP EXECUTION LUCITE TO OUR 810 00:21:48,900 --> 00:21:49,400 COMMITMENT TO CONSTITUTIONAL 811 00:21:49,466 --> 00:21:49,766 VALUES. 812 00:21:49,833 --> 00:21:53,500 WE SHOULD NOT ENDORSE PROPOSALS 813 00:21:53,566 --> 00:21:54,500 THAT INCREASE THE CHANCE THAT 814 00:21:54,566 --> 00:21:55,200 WERE EXECUTION IS IMMINENT THAT 815 00:21:55,266 --> 00:21:59,866 AN INNOCENT PERSON THE EXECUTED. 816 00:21:59,933 --> 00:22:00,800 WE SHOULD NOT SACRIFICE 817 00:22:00,866 --> 00:22:02,100 CERTAINTY IN THE NAME OF SPEED 818 00:22:02,166 --> 00:22:04,466 OR FAIRNESS IN THE NAME OF 819 00:22:04,533 --> 00:22:07,333 VENGEANCE. 820 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:08,100 >> John: YEAH! 821 00:22:08,166 --> 00:22:09,000 PRETTY GOOD. 822 00:22:09,066 --> 00:22:09,666 I KNOW IT'S WEIRD TO SEE JOE 823 00:22:09,733 --> 00:22:10,666 BIDEN ACTUALLY ON THE RIGHT SIDE 824 00:22:10,733 --> 00:22:11,400 OF A CRIMINAL JUSTICE ISSUE IN 825 00:22:11,466 --> 00:22:12,700 THE NINETIES, IT'S LIKE WATCHING 826 00:22:12,766 --> 00:22:13,266 HOME MOVIES AND SEEING YOUR 827 00:22:13,333 --> 00:22:16,066 BITTERLY DIVORCED PARENTS 828 00:22:16,133 --> 00:22:17,100 PASSIONATELY FRENCHING EACH 829 00:22:17,166 --> 00:22:17,800 OTHER. 830 00:22:17,866 --> 00:22:18,366 IT'S JUST HARD TO IMAGINE A 831 00:22:18,433 --> 00:22:19,833 WORLD WHERE THAT EVER HAPPENED. 832 00:22:19,900 --> 00:22:20,566 SO ENJOY THAT FOR JUST A MOMENT. 833 00:22:20,633 --> 00:22:23,533 ARE YOU ENJOYING IT? 834 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,033 I REALLY HOPE YOU ARE. 835 00:22:25,100 --> 00:22:25,633 BECAUSE NOW I SHOULD TELL YOU 836 00:22:25,700 --> 00:22:26,233 THAT BIDEN ACTUALLY VOTED FOR 837 00:22:26,300 --> 00:22:29,633 THE BILL IN THE END. 838 00:22:29,700 --> 00:22:30,600 YOU DON'T GET TO BE SURPRISED. 839 00:22:30,666 --> 00:22:31,766 THE GUY IS WHO HE IS. 840 00:22:31,833 --> 00:22:33,166 AND THAT BRINGS US TO TODAY. 841 00:22:33,233 --> 00:22:34,733 WHERE MANY WRONGFULLY CONVICTED 842 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,766 PEOPLE ARE STILL LOCKED UP, WITH 843 00:22:36,833 --> 00:22:37,400 A RACIALLY DISPROPORTIONATE 844 00:22:37,466 --> 00:22:38,333 IMPACT. 845 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:39,000 INNOCENT BLACK PEOPLE 846 00:22:39,066 --> 00:22:40,100 ARE ABOUT SEVEN TIMES MORE 847 00:22:40,166 --> 00:22:41,000 LIKELY TO BE CONVICTED OF MURDER 848 00:22:41,066 --> 00:22:42,800 THAN INNOCENT WHITE PEOPLE. 849 00:22:42,866 --> 00:22:44,300 AND AT THE SAME TIME, THOSE WHO 850 00:22:44,366 --> 00:22:45,833 ACTUALLY COMMITTED THE CRIMES 851 00:22:45,900 --> 00:22:48,200 ARE STILL AT LARGE, AS THE 852 00:22:48,266 --> 00:22:52,566 PHILLY D.A. POINTS OUT. 853 00:22:52,633 --> 00:22:53,800 >> JUSTICE MEANS THAT YOU TRY TO 854 00:22:53,866 --> 00:22:56,066 DO THINGS THAT ARE PROPORTIONAL 855 00:22:56,133 --> 00:22:57,566 AND YOU TRY TO DO THINGS THAT 856 00:22:57,633 --> 00:22:57,900 ARE ACCURATE. 857 00:22:57,966 --> 00:22:59,166 TRYING TO DO THINGS THAT ARE 858 00:22:59,233 --> 00:23:00,800 ACCURATE, THAT MEANS YOU DO NOT 859 00:23:00,866 --> 00:23:02,700 WANT THE GUILTY PERSON WHO GOT 860 00:23:02,766 --> 00:23:03,733 AWAY TO CONTINUE TO GET AWAY AND 861 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,433 YOU ALSO DON'T WANT THE INNOCENT 862 00:23:05,500 --> 00:23:07,400 PERSON TO STAY IN JAIL. 863 00:23:07,466 --> 00:23:11,100 THAT AIN'T RIGHT. 864 00:23:11,166 --> 00:23:14,866 I MEAN. 865 00:23:14,933 --> 00:23:17,733 DUH. 866 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,133 >> John: YEAH, HE'S RIGHT. 867 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:19,800 FUCKING DUH! 868 00:23:19,866 --> 00:23:20,600 YOU'VE PROBABLY ALREADY BEEN 869 00:23:20,666 --> 00:23:21,233 SCREAMING IT AT YOUR TV FOR THE 870 00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:22,033 LAST 15 MINUTES, ALONG WITH 871 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:22,533 "TALK SLOWER!" 872 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,900 AND "THIS GUY'S A FURRY, RIGHT?" 873 00:23:23,966 --> 00:23:24,333 THAT'S MY BUSINESS. 874 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,000 BUT I WILL SAY, THE CLUES ARE 875 00:23:25,066 --> 00:23:25,266 ALL THERE. 876 00:23:25,333 --> 00:23:25,733 HE'S RIGHT. 877 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:26,500 WE KNOW PROSECUTORS ARE 878 00:23:26,566 --> 00:23:27,533 FALLIBLE, EVEN WHEN THE STAKES 879 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:27,966 ARE INCREDIBLY HIGH. 880 00:23:28,033 --> 00:23:29,700 AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE THIS 881 00:23:29,766 --> 00:23:30,733 WHOLE MADDENING SYSTEM IN ONE 882 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,133 STORY, CONSIDER THE CASE OF 883 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,700 MELISSA LUCIO. 884 00:23:33,766 --> 00:23:35,033 SHE WENT THROUGH THE MOST 885 00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:36,200 HORRIFIC THING IMAGINABLE -- 886 00:23:36,266 --> 00:23:37,333 THE DEATH OF HER TWO-YEAR-OLD 887 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,700 DAUGHTER AFTER A FALL DOWN 888 00:23:38,766 --> 00:23:40,233 A FLIGHT OF STAIRS. 889 00:23:40,300 --> 00:23:41,066 BUT THE POLICE SUSPECTED FOUL 890 00:23:41,133 --> 00:23:43,233 PLAY, AND OVER THE COURSE OF A 891 00:23:43,300 --> 00:23:43,866 MARATHON INTERROGATION THE NIGHT 892 00:23:43,933 --> 00:23:46,733 OF HER DAUGHTER'S DEATH, LASTING 893 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:47,800 UNTIL 3:00 IN THE MORNING, THEY 894 00:23:47,866 --> 00:23:52,733 PUSHED HER TO CONFESS TO MURDER. 895 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:53,800 >> BASICALLY WHAT THEY WERE 896 00:23:53,866 --> 00:23:58,400 DOING AND IS THEY WERE TRYING TO 897 00:23:58,466 --> 00:24:00,833 MAKE ME ADMIT THAT I WAS THE ONE 898 00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:02,766 RESPONSIBLE FOR HER FALL. 899 00:24:02,833 --> 00:24:06,433 AND I KEPT TELLING THEM THAT I 900 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:09,000 HADN'T HURT MY DAUGHTER. 901 00:24:09,066 --> 00:24:12,800 THEY WERE VERY VULGAR. 902 00:24:12,866 --> 00:24:15,200 VERY ROUGH. 903 00:24:15,266 --> 00:24:16,800 VERY PERSISTENT. 904 00:24:16,866 --> 00:24:19,533 >> THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO SET IT 905 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,000 STRAIGHT. 906 00:24:20,066 --> 00:24:21,466 RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE A 907 00:24:21,533 --> 00:24:23,166 COLD-BLOODED KILLER. 908 00:24:23,233 --> 00:24:27,466 ARE YOU A COLD-BLOODED KILLER OR 909 00:24:27,533 --> 00:24:29,500 FRUSTRATED MOTHER? 910 00:24:29,566 --> 00:24:30,700 WE KNOW SOMEBODY DID IT. 911 00:24:30,766 --> 00:24:32,900 WE ARE TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO 912 00:24:32,966 --> 00:24:33,700 DID IT. 913 00:24:33,766 --> 00:24:36,266 >> IT HAPPENS. 914 00:24:36,333 --> 00:24:36,766 WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES. 915 00:24:36,833 --> 00:24:38,500 WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES. 916 00:24:38,566 --> 00:24:41,200 WE ALL GET UPSET. 917 00:24:41,266 --> 00:24:42,266 YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. 918 00:24:42,333 --> 00:24:46,600 WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. 919 00:24:46,666 --> 00:24:47,700 >> John: I KNOW THAT'S UPSETTING 920 00:24:47,766 --> 00:24:48,766 TO WATCH, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO 921 00:24:48,833 --> 00:24:49,333 SEE JUST HOW AGGRESSIVE AND 922 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:49,966 MANIPULATIVE THE SYSTEM CAN BE 923 00:24:50,033 --> 00:24:50,566 IN SOMEONE'S MOST VULNERABLE 924 00:24:50,633 --> 00:24:51,200 MOMENTS THAT LEAD TO THINGS LIKE 925 00:24:51,266 --> 00:24:52,266 FALSE CONFESSIONS. 926 00:24:52,333 --> 00:24:53,300 BECAUSE AFTER ALL THAT, SHE TOLD 927 00:24:53,366 --> 00:24:55,800 THOSE OFFICERS WHAT THEY WANTED 928 00:24:55,866 --> 00:24:57,033 TO HEAR, THAT SHE HAD, "IN THE 929 00:24:57,100 --> 00:24:58,733 PAST," SPANKED HER DAUGHTER. 930 00:24:58,800 --> 00:24:59,966 THE STATE ARGUED TO THE JURY 931 00:25:00,033 --> 00:25:00,566 THAT THAT COUNTED AS A MURDER 932 00:25:00,633 --> 00:25:01,833 CONFESSION. 933 00:25:01,900 --> 00:25:02,966 AND SHE WAS CONVICTED IN A TRIAL 934 00:25:03,033 --> 00:25:04,100 WHERE NOT ONLY DID THE 935 00:25:04,166 --> 00:25:05,166 PROSECUTION KEEP THE JURY FROM 936 00:25:05,233 --> 00:25:06,533 HEARING PSYCHOLOGIST'S TESTIMONY 937 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,400 THAT COULD SPEAK TO HER MENTAL 938 00:25:08,466 --> 00:25:09,800 STATE AT THE TIME, BUT HER OWN 939 00:25:09,866 --> 00:25:11,666 DEFENSE ATTORNEY DECIDED NOT TO 940 00:25:11,733 --> 00:25:12,966 CALL HER OTHER CHILDREN TO THE 941 00:25:13,033 --> 00:25:14,000 STAND, WHO'D HAVE TESTIFIED THEY 942 00:25:14,066 --> 00:25:15,000 NEVER WITNESSED ANY PHYSICAL 943 00:25:15,066 --> 00:25:16,466 ABUSE FROM HER. 944 00:25:16,533 --> 00:25:18,200 AND YET, WHEN SHE TRIED TO 945 00:25:18,266 --> 00:25:19,433 APPEAL HER CONVICTION TO STATE 946 00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:21,100 COURT, THE JUDGE WAS APPARENTLY 947 00:25:21,166 --> 00:25:21,700 IN SUCH A HURRY, HE INITIALLY 948 00:25:21,766 --> 00:25:23,000 TRIED TO RULE FOR THE 949 00:25:23,066 --> 00:25:24,466 PROSECUTION BEFORE THE DEFENSE 950 00:25:24,533 --> 00:25:30,533 HAD EVEN FILED THEIR RESPONSE. 951 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,666 ONCE IT GOT TO FEDERAL COURT, A 952 00:25:31,733 --> 00:25:32,966 SPLIT RULING DENIED HER APPEAL, 953 00:25:33,033 --> 00:25:33,966 BUT EVEN THE JUDGES WHO RULED 954 00:25:34,033 --> 00:25:34,633 AGAINST HER ADMITTED, "THERE WAS 955 00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:35,666 EXPERT TESTIMONY THAT, IF JURORS 956 00:25:35,733 --> 00:25:37,833 HAD ONLY HEARD IT, COULD HAVE 957 00:25:37,900 --> 00:25:39,666 IMPACTED THE VERDICT, GOING ON 958 00:25:39,733 --> 00:25:40,366 TO ACKNOWLEDGE, "WE ARE ALL, 959 00:25:40,433 --> 00:25:42,000 THOUGH, WORKING WITHIN THE 960 00:25:42,066 --> 00:25:43,466 CONSTRAINTS OF AEDPA." 961 00:25:43,533 --> 00:25:45,400 MELISSA LUCIO IS NOW SCHEDULED 962 00:25:45,466 --> 00:25:48,400 TO BE EXECUTED ON APRIL 27. 963 00:25:48,466 --> 00:25:50,266 NEXT MONTH. 964 00:25:50,333 --> 00:25:51,700 AND TO HEAR HER PROSECUTOR TELL 965 00:25:51,766 --> 00:25:52,600 IT, THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON TO 966 00:25:52,666 --> 00:25:57,133 BLAME FOR THAT. 967 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,666 >> SHE HAS NOBODY TO BLAME BUT 968 00:26:00,733 --> 00:26:00,900 HERSELF. 969 00:26:00,966 --> 00:26:02,466 SHE HAS NOBODY TO BLAME BUT 970 00:26:02,533 --> 00:26:02,766 HERSELF. 971 00:26:02,833 --> 00:26:04,266 PEOPLE SAY WELL, SHE SHOULDN'T 972 00:26:04,333 --> 00:26:04,866 BE THERE. 973 00:26:04,933 --> 00:26:06,666 SHE SHOULDN'T BE THERE. 974 00:26:06,733 --> 00:26:08,300 SHE PUT HERSELF THERE. 975 00:26:08,366 --> 00:26:11,100 WHO'S FAULT IS IT? 976 00:26:11,166 --> 00:26:12,666 WHO'S FAULT IS IT THAT SHE'S 977 00:26:12,733 --> 00:26:17,266 THERE IF IT'S NOT HERS? 978 00:26:17,333 --> 00:26:17,900 >> John: I MEAN... 979 00:26:17,966 --> 00:26:18,533 I CAN TAKE A CRACK AT 980 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:19,533 THAT ANSWER IF YOU WANT. 981 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:20,133 IT STARTS WITH "NOT HERS," AND 982 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:20,766 WHILE IT ISN'T A COMPLETE LIST, 983 00:26:20,833 --> 00:26:21,266 IT INCLUDES THE COPS WHO 984 00:26:21,333 --> 00:26:22,066 BADGERED HER, THE TEXANS WHO 985 00:26:22,133 --> 00:26:22,733 VOTED FOR A GOVERNOR WHO SEEMS 986 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,400 UNWILLING TO INTERVENE, TED 987 00:26:25,466 --> 00:26:26,133 CRUZ -- I'M ASSUMING, SOMEHOW, 988 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,133 THE 91 SENATORS WHO VOTED FOR 989 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,233 AEDPA IN 1996, HAMMURABI FOR 990 00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:31,833 CODIFYING CAPITAL PUNISHMENT IN 991 00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:33,700 ANCIENT BABYLON, AND YOU FOR 992 00:26:33,766 --> 00:26:34,166 PROSECUTING BASED ON A 993 00:26:34,233 --> 00:26:35,466 CONFESSION THAT WASN'T EVEN A 994 00:26:35,533 --> 00:26:37,866 CONFESSION, YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE. 995 00:26:37,933 --> 00:26:40,066 SO WITH A SYSTEM SO 996 00:26:40,133 --> 00:26:41,300 FUNDAMENTALLY FUCKED, 997 00:26:41,366 --> 00:26:43,100 WHAT DO WE DO? 998 00:26:43,166 --> 00:26:44,200 WELL, IMMEDIATELY WE CAN GET RID 999 00:26:44,266 --> 00:26:45,366 OF AEDPA. 1000 00:26:45,433 --> 00:26:47,766 AND WE SHOULD DO THAT AS SOON AS 1001 00:26:47,833 --> 00:26:49,933 POSSIBLE, AS THE WILL COULD BE 1002 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000 THERE CONSIDERING HOW AGAINST IT 1003 00:26:52,066 --> 00:26:53,100 BIDEN ONCE BRIEFLY WAS. 1004 00:26:53,166 --> 00:26:54,366 IN ADDITION, WE SHOULD CONTINUE 1005 00:26:54,433 --> 00:26:55,966 TO ADDRESS ALL THE MANY FACTORS 1006 00:26:56,033 --> 00:26:57,100 THAT LEAD TO WRONGFUL 1007 00:26:57,166 --> 00:26:58,200 CONVICTIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE. 1008 00:26:58,266 --> 00:26:59,266 AND WHEN THEY DO HAPPEN, WE NEED 1009 00:26:59,333 --> 00:27:01,933 TO MAKE SURE WE'VE ELECTED 1010 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,766 PROSECUTORS WHO'LL UNDERTAKE 1011 00:27:03,833 --> 00:27:04,533 CONVICTION INTEGRITY REVIEWS, 1012 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:05,600 AND GOVERNORS WHO'LL USE THEIR 1013 00:27:05,666 --> 00:27:06,233 PARDON POWER TO UNDO THE STATE'S 1014 00:27:06,300 --> 00:27:08,533 MISTAKES. 1015 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,566 WE NEED TO MAKE THIS A PRIORITY, 1016 00:27:11,633 --> 00:27:12,433 BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A 1017 00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:13,200 SYSTEM WHERE PEOPLE CAN BE 1018 00:27:13,266 --> 00:27:14,400 WRONGLY CONVICTED WITH BAD 1019 00:27:14,466 --> 00:27:15,933 DEFENSE ATTORNEYS AND LEFT TO 1020 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:16,700 FIGHT IN A CONVOLUTED APPEALS 1021 00:27:16,766 --> 00:27:18,833 SYSTEM WITH LITTLE TO NO HELP. 1022 00:27:18,900 --> 00:27:20,300 AT WHICH POINT, IT REALLY FEELS 1023 00:27:20,366 --> 00:27:22,000 LIKE OUR SYSTEM IS ESSENTIALLY 1024 00:27:22,066 --> 00:27:23,233 "GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN RICH OR 1025 00:27:23,300 --> 00:27:24,733 LUCKY." 1026 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,900 AND THAT HAS TO CHANGE, BECAUSE 1027 00:27:26,966 --> 00:27:29,100 WE CAN'T KEEP LETTING THE MOST 1028 00:27:29,166 --> 00:27:29,966 VULNERABLE BE CASUALTIES OF A 1029 00:27:30,033 --> 00:27:31,600 SYSTEM THAT CARES MORE ABOUT 1030 00:27:31,666 --> 00:27:33,333 QUICK AND FINAL DECISIONS THAN 1031 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,633 ACTUALLY CORRECT ONES. 1032 00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:36,800 THAT'S MY VERDICT, 1033 00:27:36,866 --> 00:27:37,833 AND THAT'S HOW I SEE IT. 1034 00:27:37,900 --> 00:27:42,433 CLOMP CLOMP. 1035 00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:43,300 MOTHERFUCKERS. 1036 00:27:43,366 --> 00:27:44,100 CLOMP CLOMP. 1037 00:27:44,166 --> 00:27:46,700 AND NOW THIS. 1038 00:27:46,766 --> 00:27:51,266 >> Announcer: NOW GREAT 1039 00:27:51,333 --> 00:27:51,800 MOMENTS IN STEVE HARVEY'S 1040 00:27:51,866 --> 00:27:53,800 JURISPRUDENCE. 1041 00:27:53,866 --> 00:27:56,000 >> I'M ABOUT TO HEAR A SERIES OF 1042 00:27:56,066 --> 00:27:57,600 UNBELIEVABLE STATEMENTS. 1043 00:27:57,666 --> 00:28:00,900 WE ARE ARGUING ABOUT ASS? 1044 00:28:00,966 --> 00:28:01,733 I'M SORRY. 1045 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:02,700 I'M SORRY. 1046 00:28:02,766 --> 00:28:04,133 THIS IS NOT FUNNY. 1047 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,766 >> NO, IT'S NOT. 1048 00:28:05,833 --> 00:28:07,900 >> IT'S REALLY NOT FUNNY. 1049 00:28:07,966 --> 00:28:10,300 YOU ARE WAY MORE STUPID THAN I 1050 00:28:10,366 --> 00:28:10,700 THOUGHT YOU WERE. 1051 00:28:10,766 --> 00:28:11,566 LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING. 1052 00:28:11,633 --> 00:28:13,833 YOU AIN'T GOING TO GET NOBODY 1053 00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:16,433 FINER THAN THAT. 1054 00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:17,866 YOU CAN'T OBJECT BECAUSE YOU'RE 1055 00:28:17,933 --> 00:28:22,566 NOT A LAWYER. 1056 00:28:22,633 --> 00:28:29,000 IS THAT A PAIR OF HANDCUFFS WITH 1057 00:28:29,066 --> 00:28:33,466 CORN ON THE COB WITH A CONDOM ON 1058 00:28:33,533 --> 00:28:34,066 IT? 1059 00:28:34,133 --> 00:28:35,700 YOU ARE FIXING TO HAVE ONE OF A 1060 00:28:35,766 --> 00:28:37,500 PARTY. 1061 00:28:37,566 --> 00:28:41,366 THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT. 1062 00:28:41,433 --> 00:28:43,500 >> John: THAT'S OUR SHOW. 1063 00:28:43,566 --> 00:28:45,000 THANKS SO MUCH FOR WATCHING. 1064 00:28:45,066 --> 00:28:46,066 SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.