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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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>> John: WELCOME, WELCOME,

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WELCOME TO "LAST WEEK TONIGHT!"

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I'M JOHN OLIVER.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH

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FOR JOINING US.

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AND LOOK: IT'S CLEARLY BEEN A

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VERY BUSY WEEK, BECAUSE WE DON'T

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EVEN HAVE TIME TO GET INTO THE

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FACT THAT KETANJI BROWN JACKSON

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BECAME THE FIRST BLACK WOMAN

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NOMINATED TO THE SUPREME COURT

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OR THAT THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS

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DECIDED TO TARGET TRANS CHILDREN

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AND THEIR PARENTS FOR

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NO FUCKING REASON WHATSOEVER.

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AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE TO

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BEGIN TONIGHT WITH UKRAINE.

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IT'S THE STORY YOU'VE EITHER

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BEEN PERSISTENTLY AVOIDING

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BECAUSE IT'S STRESSING YOU OUT

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OR THAT YOU'VE BEEN FOLLOWING

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OBSESSIVELY FOR THE EXACT SAME

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REASON.

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AS WE'RE ALL NOW PAINFULLY

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AWARE, VLADIMIR PUTIN,

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RUSSIAN PRESIDENT

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AND WORLD WAR III EDGELORD,

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BEGAN AN ASSAULT ON

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THE SECOND-LARGEST COUNTRY IN

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EUROPE, SHELLING SEVERAL CITIES

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AND SENDING TROOPS ACROSS THE

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BORDER.

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IT HAS BEEN HORRIFYING TO WATCH,

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AND CNN, DURING ITS COVERAGE

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OF AIR RAID SIRENS IN KYIV,

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SOMEHOW FOUND A WAY TO MAKE IT

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EVEN WORSE, WITH THIS TERRIBLE

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TRANSITION TO BREAK.

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[AIR RAID SIRENS BLARING]

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>> ♪ A LITTLE BIT OF ♪

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♪ CHICKEN FRIED ♪

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♪ COLD BEER ON A FRIDAY NIGHT ♪

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♪ A PAIR OF JEANS ♪

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♪ THAT FIT JUST RIGHT ♪

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♪ AND THE RADIO UP ♪

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>> GET FIVE BONELESS WINGS WITH

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ANY HANDCRAFTED BURGER.

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>> John: IT'S NOT GREAT, IS IT?

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IT'S NOT JUST THAT IT CUT TO

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A COMMERCIAL FOR A RESTAURANT

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CHAIN WHOSE FOOD CAN ONLY BE

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DESCRIBED AS "SOMETIMES WARM."

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IT'S JUST SO AGGRESSIVELY

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AMERICAN.

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FROM THE COUNTRY SONG THAT

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THINKS LISTING FOOD COUNTS AS

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LYRICS ALL THE WAY TO THIS HUMAN

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BOOT BARN SHAKING HIS

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NON-EXISTENT ASS.

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APPLEBEE'S ACTUALLY PUT OUT A

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STATEMENT AFTERWARD APOLOGIZING,

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SAYING, "WE ARE DEEPLY CONCERNED

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ABOUT THE SITUATION IN

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UKRAINE.

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THE AD NEVER SHOULD HAVE AIRED,

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AND WE ARE DISAPPOINTED IN THE

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ACTIONS OF THE NETWORK."

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AND THAT'S SOME DEFT

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INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMACY FROM THE

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HOME OF BOTH THE GRILLED

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AND YOU KNOW, WHEN APPLEBEE'S IS

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APOLOGIZING FOR INTERRUPTING THE

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CONDEMNATION OF PUTIN'S INVASION

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HAS BEEN WIDESPREAD FROM THE

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THE POPE,

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UNPROVOKED AND UNJUSTIFIED

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INVASION OF UKRAINE."

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NOT FROM YOU.

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FOR THIS ONE.

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BECAUSE THAT STATEMENT ONLY

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ENDED WITH "OH, SHIT,

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NOW I HEAR IT.

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SORRY.

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I'LL SHUT THE FUCK UP NOW."

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NOW, FOR THE TIME BEING, INSTEAD

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OF PUTTING TROOPS ON THE GROUND,

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ANNOUNCED A FLURRY OF SANCTIONS

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ON RUSSIA.

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BUT PUTIN SEEMS TO HAVE TAKEN

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THAT INTO ACCOUNT, BECAUSE IN

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THE EIGHT YEARS SINCE INVADING

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CRIMEA, HE'S TAKEN STEPS TO

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BLUNT THEIR IMPACT, BY

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RESTRUCTURING RUSSIA'S ECONOMY

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IT'S JUST ONE OF MANY WAYS IN

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WHICH -- AS SHOCKING AS THE

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SPEED OF THIS WEEK'S EVENTS

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MAY HAVE BEEN -- THEY WERE

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GROUNDWORK FOR THIS FOR YEARS.

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ALLEGING THAT THE UKRAINIAN

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CRUCIFIED A THREE-YEAR-OLD,

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A CLAIM FOR WHICH NO ONE COULD

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TURN UP ANY EVIDENCE.

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MANY.

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JUST THIS YEAR, RUSSIAN STATE

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MEDIA HAS BEEN AIRING "FALSE

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FLAG" VIDEOS TO TRY AND BUILD

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SOME OF WHICH WERE PRETTY

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SLOPPILY PUT TOGETHER.

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>> ON FEBRUARY 18, PRO-RUSSIAN

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SHOWING A GUN BATTLE IN THE

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"ABC NEWS" CONFIRMS IT APPEARS

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TO BE CREATED ON FEBRUARY 8,

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THAT'S TEN DAYS EARLIER THAN THE

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ALLEGED ATTACK.

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FURTHER ANALYSIS INDICATES SOME

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OF THE EXPLOSIONS IN THE VIDEO

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WERE ACTUALLY TAKEN FROM A 2010

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DEFENSE FORCES TRAINING VIDEO.

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>> John: OH, COME ON, RUSSIA.

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YOU'RE STEALING EXPLOSIONS FROM

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FINNISH DEFENSE FORCES?

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IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO THE

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TROUBLE OF FAKING FOOTAGE,

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AT LEAST PUT SOME EFFORT IN.

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STEAL THE WHOLE THING AND THROW

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IN SOME T-REXES IN

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FROM JURASSIC PARK TOO.

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HAVE FUN WITH YOUR LIES AS

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YOU'RE DRAGGING THE CONTINENT

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INTO POINTLESS WAR.

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THE POINT IS, THIS HAS BEEN IN

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THE WORKS FOR A LONG TIME.

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THE INVASION AS THE

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"HOLD ON, THAT'S A WEIRD THING

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TO SAY."

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BUT HE'S BEEN MAKING THAT

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BULLSHIT CASE FOR YEARS, DESPITE

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HAD FAMILY MEMBERS DIE IN THE

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HOLOCAUST.

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AND I DON'T WANT TO PLAY "WHO'S

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THE BIGGEST NAZI" HERE BUT

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BETWEEN ZELENSKY AND PUTIN,

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IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR WHO IS

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MORE LIKE HITLER, I'M GOING TO

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THE ETHNO-NATIONALIST

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DESPOT INVADING SOVEREIGN

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EUROPEAN TERRITORY AND WHO'S

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ALSO A TERRIBLE FUCKING PAINTER.

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PUTIN HAS DOGGEDLY PURSUED THIS

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HEAR ANY ARGUMENTS AGAINST IT.

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THIS WEEK BEGAN WHEN PUTIN

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OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED THESE TWO

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INDEPENDENT, WHICH SET

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THE INVASION IN MOTION.

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AND IN A SECURITY COUNCIL

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MEETING AT THE KREMLIN ON

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MONDAY, JUST WATCH HOW HE

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DRESSED DOWN HIS OWN SPY CHIEF

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AFTER THE MAN SUGGESTED MAYBE

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TRYING DIPLOMACY ONE LAST TIME.

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>> Interpreter:

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>> John: WOW.

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PUTIN IS A LOT OF THINGS.

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HE'S AN AUTOCRAT, A TYRANT,

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A WARMONGER --

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BUT HE'S ALSO...

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KIND OF A HUGE BITCH.

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UNFORTUNATELY FOR THAT GUY

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HE CLEARLY FORGOT THE BEST

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STRATEGY FOR PUBLIC SPEAKING IN

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RUSSIA, WHICH IS JUST IMAGINE

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THE ENTIRE AUDIENCE IN THEIR

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UNDERWEAR AND VLADIMIR PUTIN

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POINTING A PISTOL AT YOUR HEAD.

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IT REALLY FOCUSES THE MIND.

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LOOK, WHAT RUSSIA IS DOING IN

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UKRAINE IS COMPLETELY

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INDEFENSIBLE.

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EVEN PUTIN ALLIES LIKE HUNGARIAN

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PRIME MINISTER VIKTOR ORBAN ARE

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COMING OUT AGAINST IT.

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YOU CANNOT MAKE A CASE FOR

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WHAT'S HAPPENING.

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AND WHEN YOU EVEN TRY --

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AS RUSSIA'S AMBASSADOR

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TO IRELAND DID --

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IT JUST SOUNDS RIDICULOUS.

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>> IT'S NOT OUR CHOICE.

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THE MILITARY OPTION IS NOT OUR

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CHOICE.

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>> SERVER, YOUR FORCES HAVE

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INVADED A SOVEREIGN NATION.

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IT ABSOLUTELY WAS YOUR CHOICE.

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>> IT WAS NOT A PREFERABLE

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CHOICE.

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>> WHY SHOULD OUR GOVERNMENT AND

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ENTERTAIN YOUR PRESENCE HERE?

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>> IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

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YOUR GOVERNMENT, IT'S UP TO

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THEM.

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>> John: WOW.

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HE JUST ASKED YOU WHY IRELAND

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SHOULD ALLOW YOU TO STAY THERE

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AS AN APOLOGIST FOR SLAUGHTER,

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AND YOU SAID, "GOOD QUESTION."

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THAT REALLY DIDN'T SEEM LIKE A

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GOTCHA QUESTION AND YET SOMEHOW,

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YOU JUST GOT GOT.

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IT'S A GOOD REMINDER THAT

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IRELAND, IN ADDITION TO BEING

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KNOWN FOR EYE-SHATTERINGLY

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BEAUTIFUL MEADOWS AND

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FREE-FLOWING SHEEP, IS ALSO

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KNOWN FOR TAKING ABSOLUTELY ZERO

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SHIT FROM OCCUPYING ARMIES.

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BELIEVE ME.

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AND IT'S NOTABLE THAT DESPITE

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ALL THE ANTI-UKRAINE PROPAGANDA

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THAT PUTIN'S PUSHED ON HIS

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PEOPLE OVER THE YEARS AND THE

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FACT HE SO FIERCELY CRACKS DOWN

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ON DISSENT -- THERE HAVE STILL

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BEEN MASSIVE DEMONSTRATIONS

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AGAINST THE WAR IN MAJOR RUSSIAN

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CITIES THIS WEEK.

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AND THE FACT IS THAT FOR MANY

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RUSSIANS, THIS IS A

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HEARTBREAKING SITUATION.

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>> IT HURTS BECAUSE IT'S OUR

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FRIENDS, OUR RELATIVES.

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>> I'M SORRY.

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I JUST CAN'T HELP CRYING.

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>> I THINK THAT MOST OF RUSSIANS

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DON'T SUPPORT THIS.

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IT'S HORRIBLE.

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>> Interpreter: I FEEL SORRY

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FOR PEOPLE THERE.

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I FEEL SORRY FOR US.

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>> I DON'T LIKE IT AND I DON'T

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WANTED TO BE LIKE THAT AT ALL.

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>> DO YOU KNOW PEOPLE IN

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UKRAINE?

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>> YEAH, I AM ACTUALLY IN LOVE

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WITH ONE.

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I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.

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IT'S A TRAGEDY.

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>> John: YEAH, IT IS.

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THIS WHOLE THING IS A TRAGEDY.

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NO LONG-DISTANCE RELATIONSHIP

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SHOULD HAVE TO END BECAUSE OF

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A LAND WAR IN EUROPE.

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WE ALL KNOW THEY SHOULD ONLY

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END THE WAY ALL LONG-DISTANCE

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RELATIONSHIPS DO:

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EVENTUALLY.

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AS FOR UKRAINIANS, THEY ARE

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RESISTING HARD.

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VIDEOS HAVE MADE THE ROUNDS LIKE

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THIS ONE OF A WOMAN OFFERING

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RUSSIAN SOLDIERS

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SUNFLOWER SEEDS --

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THE SEEDS OF UKRAINE'S

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NATIONAL FLOWER.

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>> THERE ARE DEEP SIGNS OF

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DEFIANCE.

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PEOPLE WHO ARE UNWILLING TO

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YIELD.

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THIS WOMAN CONFRONTED HEAVILY

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ARMED RUSSIAN SOLDIERS.

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>> John: GOOD FOR HER.

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GOOD FOR HER.

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LET'S JUST RECOGNIZE FOR A

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SECOND HOW ICE-COLD THAT INSULT

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IS.

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"TAKE THESE SEEDS AND PUT THEM

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IN YOUR POCKET SO SUNFLOWERS

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WILL GROW WHEN YOU DIE."

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THAT IS FUCKING BRUTAL.

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THAT WOMAN BROUGHT SEEDS TO

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A GUNFIGHT AND SOMEHOW STILL

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COMFORTABLY WON.

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SO, LOOK, I KNOW

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IN KNOW THAT THIS IS ALL

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TOUGH TO WATCH.

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AND RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY AS

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WE'RE TAPING THIS ON SATURDAY,

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I HAVE A LOT MORE QUESTIONS THAN

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ANSWERS.

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QUESTIONS LIKE, "WHAT ARE THE

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DAYS AHEAD GOING TO BRING?"

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"CAN UKRAINE POSSIBLY SURVIVE

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THIS?"

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AND "WHAT FORM MIGHT THAT

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SURVIVAL EVEN TAKE?"

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BUT I WILL SAY: THE ACTS OF

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SELFLESSNESS AND BRAVERY ON

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DISPLAY THIS WEEK HAVE OFFERED A

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SMALL GLIMMER OF HOPE, AS HAS

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THE EXTENT OF GLOBAL

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CONDEMNATION FOR WHAT PUTIN IS

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DOING RIGHT NOW.

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AND WHEN YOU PUT IT TOGETHER,

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IT'S ENOUGH TO MAKE YOU WONDER:

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AFTER COMMITTING A BARBARIC

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CRIMINAL ACT SUCH AS THIS, HOW

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CAN PUTIN POSSIBLY EXPECT THE

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WORLD OR THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE,

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TO RESPECT OR SUPPORT HIM

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EVER AGAIN?

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I DON'T KNOW, BUT IF I MAY

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PARAPHRASE HIS OWN AMBASSADOR --

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IT'S A GOOD FUCKING QUESTION.

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AND NOW THIS.

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>> Announcer: AND NOW A LOOK

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BACK AT NOTABLE MOMENTS IN

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HISTORY.

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>> TONIGHT I CAN REPORT TO THE

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AMERICAN PEOPLE AND TO THE WORLD

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THAT THE UNITED STATES HAS

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CONDUCTED AN OPERATION THAT

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KILLED OSAMA BIN LADEN.

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>> ♪ A LITTLE BIT OF ♪

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♪ CHICKEN FRIED ♪

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♪ COLD BEER ON A FRIDAY NIGHT ♪

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>> FROM DALLAS, TEXAS, THE FLASH

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APPARENTLY OFFICIAL.

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PRESIDENT KENNEDY DIED AT

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1:00 P.M. CENTRAL STANDARD TIME.

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>> ♪ A LITTLE BIT OF ♪

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♪ CHICKEN FRIED ♪

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♪ COLD BEER ON A FRIDAY NIGHT ♪

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>> WE JURY FIND THE DEFENDANT

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O.J. SIMPSON.

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>> DIANE OUT PRINCESS OF HAS

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DIED.

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>> THE HUMANITY!

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>> SUPREME COURT ASSOCIATE

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JUSTICE RUTH BADER GINSBURG.

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>> ♪ A PAIR OF JEANS ♪

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♪ THAT FIT JUST RIGHT ♪

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♪ AND THE RADIO UP ♪

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>> John: MOVING ON.

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OUR MAIN STORY TONIGHT CONCERNED

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SEX.

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THE THING THAT THE CUTE LITTLE

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BIRD OUTSIDE YOUR WINDOW IS

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CONSTANTLY SCREAMING ABOUT.

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IT'S TRUE!

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IT'S YELLING "SEX, SEX!

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I'M HORNY!

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WHO WANTS SEX?"

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JUST REMEMBER THAT, AS YOUR

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GRANDMOTHER'S GAZING PEACEFULLY

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AT IT.

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SEX IS A TOPIC THAT,

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HISTORICALLY, WE'VE NOT BEEN

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VERY GOOD AT TALKING ABOUT.

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>> YOU KNOW SOMETHING?

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>> NO, WHAT.

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>> I HAD A WET DREAM LAST NIGHT.

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>> WHAT'S THAT?

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>> SPERM COMES OUT OF YOUR PENI

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PENIS.

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>> John: HOLD ON.

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YOU ARE NOT HIS BROTHER?

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WHAT THE FUCK!

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THEN WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

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SPERM WITH SOME RANDOM KID?

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FEELS LIKE THE MAIN TAKEAWAY

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FROM THAT VIDEO SHOULD BE TO

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STAY AWAY FROM CREEPY TEENAGERS

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WHO LIKE TO CHAT UP NEIGHBORHOOD

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TWEENS ABOUT THEIR WET PENIS.

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SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO

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TALK ABOUT SEX WORK.

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AND THE CONCEPT IS SIMPLE.

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LET'S SAY YOU HAVE SEX,

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ANY KIND --

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MISSIONARY, DOGGIE, COWGIRL,

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COWBOY, THE EAGLE,

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THE WHEELBARROW, THE WILD

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CHINCOTEAGUE PONY,

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THE JERRY SEINFELD,

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THE PICK ME UP,

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THE PUT ME DOWN,

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MOUTH BUTT, BUTT MOUTH,

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MOUTH MOUTH BUTT BUTT,

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BUTT BUTT MOUTH BUTT --

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WHATEVER.

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BUT THEN THAT'S IT.

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YOU GO HOME.

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IT'S FINE, RIGHT?

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IT'S FINE.

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BUT LET'S SAY YOU HAVE SEX, BUT

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AFTERWARDS, YOU GET MONEY OR A

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CHOCOLATE BAR OR ONE OF THOSE

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PARTICIPATION TROPHIES.

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WAY BETTER, RIGHT?

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WELL, TOO BAD, IT'S ILLEGAL.

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VERY BASICALLY, SEX WORK IS THE

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EXCHANGE OF SEX FOR MONEY OR

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GOODS, AND IN THE UNITED STATES,

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A COMPLICATED PATCHWORK OF

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LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL LAWS

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MAKES THAT ACT ILLEGAL

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EVERYWHERE EXCEPT FOR A FEW

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COUNTIES IN NEVADA.

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AND IF YOU'RE THINKING, "WAIT.

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HOLD ON.

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DIDN'T DONALD SUTHERLAND

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AND JULIE CHRISTIE HAVE SEX FOR

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REAL IN 'DON'T LOOK NOW' AND

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ALSO GET PAID AT LEAST SCALE?

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WOULDN'T THAT BE ILLEGAL?"

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THE ANSWER IS ONE, YES, I ALSO

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BELIEVE THAT RUMOR, GREAT

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REFERENCE, AND TWO, THAT'S

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ACTUALLY LEGAL BECAUSE OF THE

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PRESENCE OF THE CAMERA, MAKING

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IT AN ART FILM, OTHERWISE

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KNOWN AS PORN AND, THUS,

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LEGALLY COVERED AS PART OF FREE

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SPEECH.

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SO BASICALLY, CONSENSUAL SEX

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FOR MONEY ON CAMERA IS LEGAL

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PORN AND CONSENSUAL SEX FOR

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MONEY OFF CAMERA

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IS ILLEGAL SEX WORK.

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MAKES SENSE, RIGHT?

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WRONG?

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WELL, EXACTLY.

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EVERYTHING ABOUT THE WAY WE

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REGULATE SEX WORK IN THIS

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COUNTRY IS CONFUSING AND

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COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.

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AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT,

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IT'S OFTEN EITHER DEMONIZING,

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PATRONIZING,

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OR JUST PLAIN WRONG.

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AND IN SOME CASES,

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ALL THREE AT ONCE.

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>> IT WAS ONCE CALLED THE

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WORLD'S OLDEST PROFESSION.

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,, CALL GIRL, HOOKER, WHORE.

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MOST ARE REALLY VICTIMS.

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PEOPLE BEING TRAFFIC.

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>> FIRST OF ALL, THEY'RE

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ACTUALLY NOT, FOR REASONS WE'LL

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GET INTO LATER.

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BUT SETTING THAT ASIDE, IF

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YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT

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SOMEONE, MAYBE DON'T START THE

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SENTENCE BY INSULTING THEM.

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IT'S LIKE SAYING, "YOU KNOW HIM

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AS A DICKHEAD.

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A FUCK WEASEL.

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A STINGY, UNLIKEABLE BITCH.

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AND TODAY, AT HIS FUNERAL,

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WE REMEMBER UNCLE TODD."

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BECAUSE AS LONG AS SEX WORK HAS

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EXISTED, SO HAVE EFFORTS

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TO STOP IT.

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AND IT COMES IN MANY FORMS, FROM

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PEOPLE WHO OBJECT TO IT ON MORAL

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GROUNDS, TO THOSE WHO ASSOCIATE

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IT WITH CRIME, TO THOSE WHO WANT

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THE PRACTICE PERMANENTLY ENDED,

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AS THEY BELIEVE ALL SEX WORK IS

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EXPLOITATION AND ABSOLUTELY

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CANNOT BE DONE CONSENSUALLY.

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BUT A HUMAN HISTORY'S WORTH OF

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SHITTY LAWS HASN'T CHANGED THE

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FACT THAT ONE, SEX WORK HAS

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ALWAYS BEEN PART OF SOCIETY,

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APPEALING TO EVERY INTEREST AND

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EVERY KIND OF CLIENTELE.

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AND TWO, SEX WORKERS ARE NOT

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A MONOLITH.

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PEOPLE FROM A VARIETY OF

522
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BACKGROUNDS DO IT FOR A VARIETY

523
00:16:54,890 --> 00:16:56,758
OF REASONS.

524
00:16:56,825 --> 00:16:57,993
AND THE FACT IS, OUR CURRENT

525
00:16:58,059 --> 00:16:59,361
SYSTEM OF CRIMINALIZING THE

526
00:16:59,428 --> 00:17:01,463
TRADE AND DRIVING EVERYONE

527
00:17:01,530 --> 00:17:02,631
UNDERGROUND IS ACTUALLY ONLY

528
00:17:02,697 --> 00:17:05,233
MAKING LIFE HARDER FOR THE MOST

529
00:17:05,300 --> 00:17:06,401
VULNERABLE INVOLVED.

530
00:17:06,468 --> 00:17:07,702
AND GIVEN THAT SEX WORKERS

531
00:17:07,769 --> 00:17:09,271
ARE -- AND THIS IS TRUE --

532
00:17:09,337 --> 00:17:10,138
PEOPLE WITH THOUGHTS ABOUT

533
00:17:10,205 --> 00:17:11,706
THEIR OWN FUCKING SITUATION,

534
00:17:11,773 --> 00:17:12,474
WE THOUGHT TONIGHT,

535
00:17:12,541 --> 00:17:14,142
WE'D ACTUALLY LISTEN TO THEM.

536
00:17:14,209 --> 00:17:15,444
AND LET'S START WITH THE FACT

537
00:17:15,510 --> 00:17:16,645
THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE

538
00:17:16,711 --> 00:17:19,815
A PIECE ABOUT MORALITY.

539
00:17:19,881 --> 00:17:21,483
YOU MIGHT WELL THINK PEOPLE

540
00:17:21,550 --> 00:17:22,851
SHOULD ONLY HAVE SEX DURING A

541
00:17:22,918 --> 00:17:24,419
FULL MOON, WEARING A THREE-PIECE

542
00:17:24,486 --> 00:17:25,420
SUIT, AND EXCLUSIVELY WITH THEIR

543
00:17:25,487 --> 00:17:26,288
COMMON-LAW HORSE.

544
00:17:26,354 --> 00:17:27,989
THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS.

545
00:17:28,056 --> 00:17:29,891
THIS STORY IS GOING TO BE ABOUT

546
00:17:29,958 --> 00:17:30,425
THE FACT THAT SEX WORK IS,

547
00:17:30,492 --> 00:17:33,495
INARGUABLY, LABOR.

548
00:17:33,562 --> 00:17:34,262
IT IS A JOB.

549
00:17:34,329 --> 00:17:35,564
AND PEOPLE DO IT FOR THE SAME

550
00:17:35,630 --> 00:17:36,331
REASONS PEOPLE DO ANY JOB, AS

551
00:17:36,398 --> 00:17:41,403
THIS ADVOCATE EXPLAINS.

552
00:17:41,470 --> 00:17:44,506
>> 'S EXPERT IS INHERENTLY WORK.

553
00:17:44,573 --> 00:17:46,174
IT'S HOW PEOPLE FEED THEIR

554
00:17:46,241 --> 00:17:46,441
FAMILIES.

555
00:17:46,508 --> 00:17:48,143
IT'S HOW PEOPLE PUT CLOTHES ON

556
00:17:48,210 --> 00:17:48,743
THEIR BACK.

557
00:17:48,810 --> 00:17:51,480
IT'S HOW PEOPLE SURVIVE.

558
00:17:51,546 --> 00:17:52,314
I HAVE BEEN A SEX WORKER.

559
00:17:52,380 --> 00:17:54,282
I HAVE BEEN A LAWYER.

560
00:17:54,349 --> 00:17:57,519
I SERVED SANDWICHES AT SUBWAY.

561
00:17:57,586 --> 00:18:04,459
I FOLDED CLOSE AT ABERCROMBIE.

562
00:18:04,526 --> 00:18:05,160
>> John: YEAH, IT'S ALL WORK.

563
00:18:05,227 --> 00:18:05,794
THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SEX

564
00:18:05,861 --> 00:18:07,062
WORK AND WORKING AT A SUBWAY IS

565
00:18:07,128 --> 00:18:07,662
THAT AT LEAST IN SEX WORK, YOU

566
00:18:07,729 --> 00:18:08,163
ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THE

567
00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:08,930
CUSTOMER'S EATING.

568
00:18:08,997 --> 00:18:09,764
AND YET SOME PEOPLE FEEL HIGHLY

569
00:18:09,831 --> 00:18:10,432
UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE IDEA THAT

570
00:18:10,499 --> 00:18:11,066
SEX WORK IS LABOR AND SHOULD BE

571
00:18:11,132 --> 00:18:14,169
TREATED AS SUCH.

572
00:18:14,236 --> 00:18:15,270
JUST WATCH A NEW YORK STATE

573
00:18:15,337 --> 00:18:16,671
ASSEMBLYMEMBER STRUGGLE TO EVEN

574
00:18:16,738 --> 00:18:19,574
GET HIS HEAD AROUND IT.

575
00:18:19,641 --> 00:18:24,746
>> WE HAVE GOT HOOKERS ROAMING

576
00:18:24,813 --> 00:18:26,281
THE CAPITAL LOBBYING TO BE

577
00:18:26,348 --> 00:18:26,648
LEGALIZED.

578
00:18:26,715 --> 00:18:29,117
I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT THAT

579
00:18:29,184 --> 00:18:29,718
LOOKS LIKE.

580
00:18:29,784 --> 00:18:30,886
THEY ARE LOBBYING.

581
00:18:30,952 --> 00:18:32,387
THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT HEALTH

582
00:18:32,454 --> 00:18:33,421
INSURANCE, FAIR WAGES.

583
00:18:33,488 --> 00:18:34,322
ALL THE THINGS THAT COME WITH

584
00:18:34,389 --> 00:18:36,324
IT.

585
00:18:36,391 --> 00:18:37,826
THIS IS -- THIS HAS REALLY

586
00:18:37,893 --> 00:18:40,729
GOTTEN OUT OF HAND.

587
00:18:40,795 --> 00:18:42,130
>> John: CAN YOU IMAGINE!

588
00:18:42,197 --> 00:18:42,764
AN ORGANIZED GROUP OF CITIZENS!

589
00:18:42,831 --> 00:18:43,398
LOBBYING THEIR STATE GOVERNMENT

590
00:18:43,465 --> 00:18:43,932
FOR ACCESS TO BASIC HUMAN

591
00:18:43,999 --> 00:18:44,533
RIGHTS!

592
00:18:44,599 --> 00:18:45,567
THIS HAS GOTTEN OUT OF HAND.

593
00:18:45,634 --> 00:18:46,668
NOW IF YOU'LL EXCUSE ME, I HAVE

594
00:18:46,735 --> 00:18:47,969
TO CONTINUE STYLING MY HAIR LIKE

595
00:18:48,036 --> 00:18:51,373
A FAMOUSLY RACIST CARTOON.

596
00:18:51,439 --> 00:18:53,008
NOW, PART OF HIS RELUCTANCE IS

597
00:18:53,074 --> 00:18:54,509
PROBABLY HIS GENERAL DICK VIBE,

598
00:18:54,576 --> 00:18:55,710
BUT IT ALSO POINTS TO SOMETHING

599
00:18:55,777 --> 00:18:57,012
MUCH BIGGER.

600
00:18:57,078 --> 00:18:58,947
AND THAT'S THE ARGUMENT THAT,

601
00:18:59,014 --> 00:19:00,949
AS THAT ANCHOR SAID, "MOST SEX

602
00:19:01,016 --> 00:19:01,983
WORKERS ARE VICTIMS," AND WHAT

603
00:19:02,050 --> 00:19:03,184
THEY NEED IS SOMEONE TO STEP IN

604
00:19:03,251 --> 00:19:04,286
AND SAVE THEM.

605
00:19:04,352 --> 00:19:06,054
AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST GROUPS

606
00:19:06,121 --> 00:19:07,889
THAT LOVES TO DO THAT IS THE

607
00:19:07,956 --> 00:19:09,858
POLICE, WHO OFTEN POSITION

608
00:19:09,925 --> 00:19:10,458
THEMSELVES AS SAVIORS FOR SEX

609
00:19:10,525 --> 00:19:12,761
WORKERS, EVEN AS THEY ARE

610
00:19:12,827 --> 00:19:18,066
ARRESTING AND JAILING THEM.

611
00:19:18,133 --> 00:19:20,735
>> I HAVE TALKED TO NUMEROUS

612
00:19:20,802 --> 00:19:22,938
SURVIVORS THAT SAY IT SAVED

613
00:19:23,004 --> 00:19:23,939
THEIR LIFE, BEING ARRESTED.

614
00:19:24,005 --> 00:19:25,240
WE OPEN THE DOOR FOR HELP AND IF

615
00:19:25,307 --> 00:19:27,375
WE DON'T DO THAT, WHO'S GOING TO

616
00:19:27,442 --> 00:19:28,343
DO IT?

617
00:19:28,410 --> 00:19:30,045
IF I DON'T OFFER THEM HELP, WHO

618
00:19:30,111 --> 00:19:31,079
IS GOING TO?

619
00:19:31,146 --> 00:19:34,583
NO ONE.

620
00:19:34,649 --> 00:19:35,417
>> John: WELL, HOLD ON.

621
00:19:35,483 --> 00:19:36,451
FIRST, IF IT'S TRUE NO ONE ELSE

622
00:19:36,518 --> 00:19:37,385
IS GOING TO HELP THEM, THEN

623
00:19:37,452 --> 00:19:38,253
YOU'RE POINTING AT A GIGANTIC

624
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:38,887
PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

625
00:19:38,954 --> 00:19:39,521
BECAUSE ARRESTING SOMEONE ISN'T

626
00:19:39,588 --> 00:19:40,388
USUALLY CONSIDERED THE BEST WAY

627
00:19:40,455 --> 00:19:41,890
OF PROVIDING ASSISTANCE.

628
00:19:41,957 --> 00:19:42,958
THAT'S WHY THERE ISN'T

629
00:19:43,024 --> 00:19:44,059
A "THANK YOU" SECTION

630
00:19:44,125 --> 00:19:45,360
IN HALLMARK CALLED

631
00:19:45,427 --> 00:19:47,829
"FOR YOUR ARRESTING OFFICER."

632
00:19:47,896 --> 00:19:49,164
BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN ALL

633
00:19:49,230 --> 00:19:50,231
AGREE IF THERE ARE PEOPLE DOING

634
00:19:50,298 --> 00:19:52,133
SEX WORK WHO DON'T WANT TO BE

635
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,768
DOING IT, WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY

636
00:19:53,835 --> 00:19:57,172
BE AIDING THEIR TRANSITION OUT

637
00:19:57,238 --> 00:19:57,572
OF THAT SITUATION.

638
00:19:57,639 --> 00:19:59,441
BUT THE QUESTION IS, ARE WE

639
00:19:59,507 --> 00:20:01,176
DOING THAT RIGHT NOW?

640
00:20:01,242 --> 00:20:02,210
BECAUSE LET'S LOOK AT SOME OF

641
00:20:02,277 --> 00:20:03,778
THE METHODS POLICE USE IN

642
00:20:03,845 --> 00:20:04,913
DEALING WITH SEX WORKERS --

643
00:20:04,980 --> 00:20:06,181
WHICH CAN BE TRAUMATIZING,

644
00:20:06,247 --> 00:20:08,450
INVASIVE, AND OCCASIONALLY

645
00:20:08,516 --> 00:20:09,751
UNBELIEVABLY CRUEL, LIKE THIS

646
00:20:09,818 --> 00:20:10,752
UNDERCOVER STING FROM AN EPISODE

647
00:20:10,819 --> 00:20:14,756
OF "COPS."

648
00:20:14,823 --> 00:20:18,994
>> HOW ABOUT A LITTLE CLOWN

649
00:20:19,060 --> 00:20:19,394
ACTION?

650
00:20:19,461 --> 00:20:22,063
>> SURVEILLANCE UNIT, SHE IS

651
00:20:22,130 --> 00:20:25,734
GETTING IN THE VAN.

652
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:25,967
YOU?

653
00:20:26,034 --> 00:20:30,772
>> AS A MATTER OF FACT.

654
00:20:30,839 --> 00:20:33,141
>> WE ARE NOT DOING NOTHING.

655
00:20:33,208 --> 00:20:34,109
WE ARE NOT DOING NOTHING.

656
00:20:34,175 --> 00:20:37,479
>> PUT YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR

657
00:20:37,545 --> 00:20:38,647
BACK.

658
00:20:38,713 --> 00:20:39,948
YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK.

659
00:20:40,015 --> 00:20:41,282
>> John: ONLY ONE OF THOSE

660
00:20:41,349 --> 00:20:42,884
PEOPLE ENDED UP IN HANDCUFFS AND

661
00:20:42,951 --> 00:20:44,919
IT SOMEHOW WASN'T THE GUY WHO

662
00:20:44,986 --> 00:20:46,554
SAID "HOW ABOUT SOME CLOWN

663
00:20:46,621 --> 00:20:51,626
ACTION"

664
00:20:51,693 --> 00:20:53,495
BEFORE JIZZING SILLY STRING.

665
00:20:53,561 --> 00:20:54,062
AND LISTEN: THIS IS NOT THE

666
00:20:54,129 --> 00:20:54,629
MOST IMPORTANT POINT -- IN

667
00:20:54,696 --> 00:20:55,296
FACT, IT'S ARGUABLY THE LEAST --

668
00:20:55,363 --> 00:20:56,598
BUT THAT'S NOT A CLOWN HAT,

669
00:20:56,665 --> 00:20:57,165
IT'S A "CAT IN THE HAT" HAT.

670
00:20:57,232 --> 00:20:57,732
AND I WILL ADMIT I'M NOT AN

671
00:20:57,799 --> 00:20:58,266
EXPERT ON CLOWN ATTIRE FOR

672
00:20:58,333 --> 00:20:59,000
PROSTITUTION STINGS.

673
00:20:59,067 --> 00:21:00,035
BUT I KNOW A HAT MISTAKE WHEN I

674
00:21:00,101 --> 00:21:00,902
SEE ONE, AND THAT -- LADIES AND

675
00:21:00,969 --> 00:21:05,740
GENTLEMEN -- IS A HAT MISTAKE.

676
00:21:05,807 --> 00:21:09,344
SO IT'S NO WONDER MANY SEX

677
00:21:09,411 --> 00:21:09,944
WORKERS HAVE TROUBLE REGARDING

678
00:21:10,011 --> 00:21:11,246
THE POLICE AS THEIR SAVIORS --

679
00:21:11,312 --> 00:21:12,213
ESPECIALLY AS COPS HAVE A

680
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:13,782
REPUTATION FOR ACTING VIOLENTLY

681
00:21:13,848 --> 00:21:14,315
OR INAPPROPRIATELY DURING

682
00:21:14,382 --> 00:21:15,316
STINGS.

683
00:21:15,383 --> 00:21:17,552
A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IN

684
00:21:17,619 --> 00:21:19,754
ARIZONA, FEDERAL AGENTS

685
00:21:19,821 --> 00:21:21,456
ALLEGEDLY ENGAGED IN 17 SEXUAL

686
00:21:21,523 --> 00:21:22,557
ENCOUNTERS WITH WOMEN WORKING IN

687
00:21:22,624 --> 00:21:24,392
MASSAGE PARLORS, AS PART OF AN

688
00:21:24,459 --> 00:21:26,327
INVESTIGATION DISGUSTINGLY

689
00:21:26,394 --> 00:21:26,895
CODENAMED "OPERATION ASIAN

690
00:21:26,961 --> 00:21:29,364
TOUCH."

691
00:21:29,431 --> 00:21:30,598
AND THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON,

692
00:21:30,665 --> 00:21:32,300
BECAUSE IN MANY STATES, IT IS

693
00:21:32,367 --> 00:21:33,668
NOT SPECIFICALLY ILLEGAL FOR

694
00:21:33,735 --> 00:21:36,237
POLICE OFFICERS TO HAVE SEX WITH

695
00:21:36,304 --> 00:21:36,771
WORKERS DURING THE COURSE

696
00:21:36,838 --> 00:21:37,439
OF A STING OPERATION.

697
00:21:37,505 --> 00:21:38,973
AND IN SOME STATES, POLICE HAVE

698
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,241
PROTESTED EFFORTS TO BAN THE

699
00:21:40,308 --> 00:21:41,843
PRACTICE.

700
00:21:41,910 --> 00:21:49,150
WHICH IS BOTH GROTESQUE AND A

701
00:21:49,217 --> 00:21:50,452
BIT IRONIC BECAUSE WHAT THEY ARE

702
00:21:50,518 --> 00:21:51,052
FUNDAMENTALLY ARGUING AS THEY

703
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,887
SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE SEX FOR

704
00:21:52,954 --> 00:21:54,355
THEIR JOBS LEGALLY IN ORDER TO

705
00:21:54,422 --> 00:21:57,459
STOP PEOPLE HAVING SEX FOR THEIR

706
00:21:57,525 --> 00:21:59,961
JOBS.

707
00:22:00,028 --> 00:22:00,929
AND EVEN WITHOUT THAT PROVISION,

708
00:22:00,995 --> 00:22:01,629
THE LAWS POLICE CAN USE TO

709
00:22:01,696 --> 00:22:02,330
ARREST OR INTIMIDATE SEX WORKERS

710
00:22:02,397 --> 00:22:03,298
ARE SHOCKINGLY BROAD.

711
00:22:03,364 --> 00:22:04,399
IF YOU WORK IN THE SEX TRADE,

712
00:22:04,466 --> 00:22:05,667
THE THREAT OF ARREST LOOMS LARGE

713
00:22:05,734 --> 00:22:08,903
OVER YOUR ENTIRE EXISTENCE.

714
00:22:08,970 --> 00:22:09,471
AND THIS IS YET ANOTHER AREA

715
00:22:09,537 --> 00:22:10,105
THAT DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTS

716
00:22:10,171 --> 00:22:11,239
PEOPLE OF COLOR.

717
00:22:11,306 --> 00:22:12,874
ONE RECENT INVESTIGATION FOUND

718
00:22:12,941 --> 00:22:14,843
THAT, FROM 2016 TO 2020, ALMOST

719
00:22:14,909 --> 00:22:17,746
EVERYONE ARRESTED BY THE NYPD

720
00:22:17,812 --> 00:22:20,982
FOR BUYING OR SELLING SEX WAS

721
00:22:21,049 --> 00:22:21,249
NON-WHITE.

722
00:22:21,316 --> 00:22:22,517
ONE PARTICULARLY PROBLEMATIC

723
00:22:22,584 --> 00:22:24,018
LAW IS THE PROHIBITION AGAINST

724
00:22:24,085 --> 00:22:25,286
"LOITERING FOR THE PURPOSE OF

725
00:22:25,353 --> 00:22:26,254
PROSTITUTION."

726
00:22:26,321 --> 00:22:27,088
IT'S BASICALLY A STOP-AND-FRISK

727
00:22:27,155 --> 00:22:29,457
POLICY FOR SEX WORKERS.

728
00:22:29,524 --> 00:22:30,759
AND IN NEW YORK, IT'S WRITTEN

729
00:22:30,825 --> 00:22:32,794
SO VAGUELY, THE NYPD HAS USED IT

730
00:22:32,861 --> 00:22:34,028
TO INTERPRET COMPLETELY LEGAL

731
00:22:34,095 --> 00:22:36,030
ACTIVITIES LIKE TALKING TO

732
00:22:36,097 --> 00:22:37,932
PEDESTRIANS OR DRESSING

733
00:22:37,999 --> 00:22:39,234
PROVOCATIVELY AS A BASIS

734
00:22:39,300 --> 00:22:41,202
FOR AN ARREST.

735
00:22:41,269 --> 00:22:42,737
COPS HAVE USED THE LAW TO ARREST

736
00:22:42,804 --> 00:22:45,206
PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY WORE "BLACK

737
00:22:45,273 --> 00:22:46,207
COWBOY BOOTS AND BLACK SHORTS,"

738
00:22:46,274 --> 00:22:47,075
AND "A MULTI COLOR SHORT DRESS

739
00:22:47,142 --> 00:22:48,476
AND SANDALS."

740
00:22:48,543 --> 00:22:49,711
AND IN ONE CASE, A WOMAN WAS

741
00:22:49,778 --> 00:22:51,246
ARRESTED BECAUSE HER CLOTHES

742
00:22:51,312 --> 00:22:53,381
EXPOSED "HER BUTTOCKS AND CERVIX

743
00:22:53,448 --> 00:22:54,649
AREA," WHICH ISN'T SO MUCH A

744
00:22:54,716 --> 00:22:56,618
CRIME AS IT IS AN URGENT MEDICAL

745
00:22:56,684 --> 00:22:59,053
EMERGENCY.

746
00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:01,022
MEANWHILE, IN SOME STATES, COPS

747
00:23:01,089 --> 00:23:02,090
HAVE SEIZED CONDOMS AND USED

748
00:23:02,157 --> 00:23:03,591
THEM AS EVIDENCE OF

749
00:23:03,658 --> 00:23:05,059
PROSTITUTION, OR EVEN CHARGED

750
00:23:05,126 --> 00:23:06,094
PEOPLE WITH A MISDEMEANOR CALLED

751
00:23:06,161 --> 00:23:07,829
"POSSESSING AN INSTRUMENT OF

752
00:23:07,896 --> 00:23:09,631
CRIME" FOR CARRYING THEM.

753
00:23:09,697 --> 00:23:11,599
AND CRIMINALIZING CONDOMS HAS

754
00:23:11,666 --> 00:23:13,968
LED SOME SEX WORKERS TO HIDE

755
00:23:14,035 --> 00:23:15,003
THEM OR EVEN GO WITHOUT, AS

756
00:23:15,069 --> 00:23:21,309
THIS WORKER IN QUEENS EXPLAINS.

757
00:23:21,376 --> 00:23:23,111
>> Interpreter: YOU ASK WHERE

758
00:23:23,178 --> 00:23:24,512
WE HIDE OUR CONDOMS.

759
00:23:24,579 --> 00:23:26,714
WE HIDE CONDOMS IN OUR PRIVATE

760
00:23:26,781 --> 00:23:29,951
PARTS WHERE THEY WON'T TOUCH US.

761
00:23:30,018 --> 00:23:32,120
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CARRY

762
00:23:32,187 --> 00:23:33,354
CONDOMS TO PROTECT OURSELVES AND

763
00:23:33,421 --> 00:23:35,089
TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE WE ARE

764
00:23:35,156 --> 00:23:36,291
WITH.

765
00:23:36,357 --> 00:23:37,959
THE AUTHORITIES SHOW A REAL LACK

766
00:23:38,026 --> 00:23:39,460
OF INTELLIGENCE WHEN THEY SAY

767
00:23:39,527 --> 00:23:44,098
IT'S A CRIME TO CARRY CONDOMS.

768
00:23:44,165 --> 00:23:45,934
IN THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY,

769
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,903
NOT CARRYING CONDOMS AS A DEATH

770
00:23:48,970 --> 00:23:50,071
WISH.

771
00:23:50,138 --> 00:23:51,272
>> John: THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

772
00:23:51,339 --> 00:23:51,840
PUTTING ASIDE THE FACT "IT'S

773
00:23:51,906 --> 00:23:53,274
A CRIME TO CARRY CONDOMS" SOUNDS

774
00:23:53,341 --> 00:23:53,908
LIKE THE NAME OF A CHRISTIAN BOY

775
00:23:53,975 --> 00:23:57,979
BAND'S SELF-RELEASED ALBUM,

776
00:23:58,046 --> 00:23:58,813
WHICH IT ABSOLUTELY DOES.

777
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,348
WHAT YOU'RE DOING THERE IS

778
00:24:00,415 --> 00:24:00,949
GENUINELY MAKING SEX WORKERS'

779
00:24:01,015 --> 00:24:02,283
JOBS LESS SAFE.

780
00:24:02,350 --> 00:24:03,751
BUT THAT'S NOT THE ONLY WAY OUR

781
00:24:03,818 --> 00:24:06,187
CURRENT POLICIES HARM THOSE THEY

782
00:24:06,254 --> 00:24:06,955
CLAIM TO HELP.

783
00:24:07,021 --> 00:24:08,323
A CRIMINAL RECORD CAN LIMIT

784
00:24:08,389 --> 00:24:09,557
A SEX WORKER'S FUTURE

785
00:24:09,624 --> 00:24:10,158
OPPORTUNITIES SHOULD THEY WANT

786
00:24:10,225 --> 00:24:11,860
TO LEAVE THE FIELD.

787
00:24:11,926 --> 00:24:17,232
BECAUSE WHILE MOST SEX

788
00:24:17,298 --> 00:24:18,366
RELATED CRIMES ARE

789
00:24:18,433 --> 00:24:19,300
CLASSIFIED AS MISDEMEANORS, IN

790
00:24:19,367 --> 00:24:20,134
SOME STATES INCLUDING ALL THESE,

791
00:24:20,201 --> 00:24:21,035
REPEATED ARRESTS CAN RESULT IN

792
00:24:21,102 --> 00:24:21,636
A FELONY CONVICTION AND PRISON

793
00:24:21,703 --> 00:24:22,270
TIME.

794
00:24:22,337 --> 00:24:24,505
AND FOR A WHILE IN LOUISIANA,

795
00:24:24,572 --> 00:24:25,440
SOME OF THOSE ARRESTED FOR DOING

796
00:24:25,506 --> 00:24:26,975
SEX WORK WOUND UP HAVING TO

797
00:24:27,041 --> 00:24:29,577
REGISTER AS SEX OFFENDERS, WHICH

798
00:24:29,644 --> 00:24:31,312
IS PARTICULARLY GALLING.

799
00:24:31,379 --> 00:24:33,314
BECAUSE IF ANYONE YOU'VE SEEN SO

800
00:24:33,381 --> 00:24:34,415
FAR SHOULD BE LABELED A SEX

801
00:24:34,482 --> 00:24:35,717
OFFENDER, IT'S ALL THE COPS

802
00:24:35,783 --> 00:24:37,352
WHO'VE EVER HAD SEX DURING A

803
00:24:37,418 --> 00:24:38,453
STING, AND AGAIN, THAT FUCKING

804
00:24:38,519 --> 00:24:41,789
CLOWN.

805
00:24:41,856 --> 00:24:44,125
AND LOOK: I DON'T WANT TO PAINT

806
00:24:44,192 --> 00:24:46,127
TOO ROSY A PICTURE HERE.

807
00:24:46,194 --> 00:24:48,296
SEX WORK CAN BE DANGEROUS.

808
00:24:48,363 --> 00:24:50,098
AND WE NEED TO BE TALKING

809
00:24:50,164 --> 00:24:50,965
CONSTRUCTIVELY ABOUT HOW TO

810
00:24:51,032 --> 00:24:54,002
MAKE IT SAFER IN EVERY WAY.

811
00:24:54,068 --> 00:24:55,937
BUT A REASON IT'S HARD TO HAVE

812
00:24:56,004 --> 00:24:57,305
THAT CONVERSATION IS THAT SEX

813
00:24:57,372 --> 00:24:58,806
WORK SO OFTEN GETS CONFLATED

814
00:24:58,873 --> 00:25:00,775
WITH SOMETHING ELSE:

815
00:25:00,842 --> 00:25:02,410
THAT IS HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

816
00:25:02,477 --> 00:25:03,211
AND LET ME FIRST SAY THAT OF

817
00:25:03,278 --> 00:25:04,579
COURSE HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS

818
00:25:04,646 --> 00:25:05,613
REAL, AND WHEN IT HAPPENS,

819
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,682
IT'S HORRIFIC.

820
00:25:07,749 --> 00:25:09,717
YOU THINK OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN

821
00:25:09,784 --> 00:25:10,585
AND -- AM I LEGALLY ALLOWED

822
00:25:10,652 --> 00:25:13,154
TO SAY PRINCE ANDREW?

823
00:25:13,221 --> 00:25:13,388
I'M NOT?

824
00:25:13,454 --> 00:25:16,624
ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?

825
00:25:16,691 --> 00:25:17,525
TOTALLY SURE?

826
00:25:17,592 --> 00:25:18,259
OKAY.

827
00:25:18,326 --> 00:25:20,929
FORGET I SAID IT THEN.

828
00:25:20,995 --> 00:25:22,196
BUT THE CONCEPT OF HUMAN

829
00:25:22,263 --> 00:25:23,965
TRAFFICKING LOOMS LARGE IN THE

830
00:25:24,032 --> 00:25:25,967
CONVERSATION AROUND SEX WORK.

831
00:25:26,034 --> 00:25:27,535
YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN MASSIVE

832
00:25:27,602 --> 00:25:29,037
NUMBERS GET THROWN AROUND

833
00:25:29,103 --> 00:25:30,705
ONLINE, DESPITE THE FACT EXPERTS

834
00:25:30,772 --> 00:25:33,541
WILL TELL YOU GETTING AN

835
00:25:33,608 --> 00:25:34,042
ACCURATE COUNT ON THOSE

836
00:25:34,108 --> 00:25:35,009
SUBJECTED TO FORCED SEX OR LABOR

837
00:25:35,076 --> 00:25:35,643
HAS ELUDED RESEARCHERS FOR

838
00:25:35,710 --> 00:25:37,812
YEARS.

839
00:25:37,879 --> 00:25:38,947
AND LOOK, ANY NUMBER NORTH OF

840
00:25:39,013 --> 00:25:40,581
ZERO IS CLEARLY TERRIBLE.

841
00:25:40,648 --> 00:25:42,917
BUT FAR TOO OFTEN, ATTEMPTS TO

842
00:25:42,984 --> 00:25:45,586
CRACK DOWN ON SEX TRAFFICKING

843
00:25:45,653 --> 00:25:46,621
WILL CONFLATE IT WITH

844
00:25:46,688 --> 00:25:48,156
CONSENSUAL ADULT SEX WORK.

845
00:25:48,222 --> 00:25:49,924
THE IMPLICIT ASSUMPTION IS THAT

846
00:25:49,991 --> 00:25:51,092
NO SEX WORKER HAS EVER ENTERED

847
00:25:51,159 --> 00:25:54,128
THE TRADE BY CHOICE, EVEN WHEN

848
00:25:54,195 --> 00:25:55,930
THAT IS, BY THEIR OWN TESTIMONY,

849
00:25:55,997 --> 00:25:57,398
NOT THE CASE.

850
00:25:57,465 --> 00:25:59,133
AND SOME STATES HAVE EVEN

851
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,369
WRITTEN THAT INTO LAW.

852
00:26:01,436 --> 00:26:03,438
IN 2012, LAWMAKERS IN ALASKA

853
00:26:03,504 --> 00:26:04,872
AMENDED THEIR LAWS ON "PROMOTING

854
00:26:04,939 --> 00:26:06,207
PROSTITUTION" TO REPLACE THAT

855
00:26:06,274 --> 00:26:08,743
PHRASE WITH "SEX TRAFFICKING,"

856
00:26:08,810 --> 00:26:09,711
RESULTING IN ONE CASE WHERE

857
00:26:09,777 --> 00:26:11,245
A WOMAN WAS CHARGED WITH

858
00:26:11,312 --> 00:26:12,947
TRAFFICKING HERSELF.

859
00:26:13,014 --> 00:26:14,515
WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY ABSURD,

860
00:26:14,582 --> 00:26:15,516
UNLESS, THAT IS, THEY WERE

861
00:26:15,583 --> 00:26:16,851
MAKING A LARGER POINT ABOUT OUR

862
00:26:16,918 --> 00:26:17,652
COLLECTIVE LACK OF FREE WILL

863
00:26:17,719 --> 00:26:18,853
UNDER CAPITALISM.

864
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:19,620
AND IF IT'S THE LATTER,

865
00:26:19,687 --> 00:26:23,224
I'D SAY, BRO?

866
00:26:23,291 --> 00:26:26,194
BRO, NOT THE TIME.

867
00:26:26,260 --> 00:26:27,161
NOT THE TIME, BRO.

868
00:26:27,228 --> 00:26:27,795
AND THE THING IS, BADLY WRITTEN

869
00:26:27,862 --> 00:26:28,429
LAWS CAN HAVE MASSIVE

870
00:26:28,496 --> 00:26:30,064
CONSEQUENCES.

871
00:26:30,131 --> 00:26:31,466
TAKE FOSTA.

872
00:26:31,532 --> 00:26:33,034
IT'S A FEDERAL LAW THAT WAS

873
00:26:33,101 --> 00:26:34,235
POSITIONED AS A WAY TO CRACK

874
00:26:34,302 --> 00:26:36,137
DOWN ON SEX TRAFFICKING, BY

875
00:26:36,204 --> 00:26:37,338
BANNING ONLINE ADS THAT SOLD

876
00:26:37,405 --> 00:26:38,339
PEOPLE INTO SEX SLAVERY.

877
00:26:38,406 --> 00:26:43,678
WHICH SOUNDS GOOD, RIGHT?

878
00:26:43,745 --> 00:26:45,079
WHAT KIND OF MONSTER WOULD BE

879
00:26:45,146 --> 00:26:47,348
AGAINST THAT?

880
00:26:47,415 --> 00:26:48,316
BUT WHAT IT DID WAS BAN ADS FOR

881
00:26:48,383 --> 00:26:49,517
ALL PAID SEX, WHETHER OR NOT

882
00:26:49,584 --> 00:26:50,051
TRAFFICKING WAS INVOLVED.

883
00:26:50,118 --> 00:26:50,785
IT WAS PART OF A MUCH LARGER

884
00:26:50,852 --> 00:26:52,086
PUSH TO SHUT DOWN SITES WHERE

885
00:26:52,153 --> 00:26:54,188
SEX WAS SOLD, ALONG WITH THE

886
00:26:54,255 --> 00:26:55,456
SHUTTERING OF BACKPAGE AND

887
00:26:55,523 --> 00:26:57,558
CRAIGSLIST'S PERSONALS SECTION.

888
00:26:57,625 --> 00:26:58,659
AND WHILE UNDENIABLY, SOME VERY

889
00:26:58,726 --> 00:27:01,562
BAD THINGS WERE ADVERTISED ON

890
00:27:01,629 --> 00:27:02,730
THOSE SITES, THEY ALSO ENABLED

891
00:27:02,797 --> 00:27:04,098
SEX WORKERS TO FIND CLIENTS AND

892
00:27:04,165 --> 00:27:06,701
COMMUNICATE WITH THEM, WHICH WAS

893
00:27:06,768 --> 00:27:08,102
A MUCH SAFER WAY FOR THEM TO DO

894
00:27:08,169 --> 00:27:08,636
THAT THAN OPERATING ON THE

895
00:27:08,703 --> 00:27:09,737
STREET.

896
00:27:09,804 --> 00:27:12,073
AND IF YOU'RE THINKING "WELL,

897
00:27:12,140 --> 00:27:13,775
OKAY, IT'S BAD THAT SEX WORKERS

898
00:27:13,841 --> 00:27:15,009
LOST A WAY TO STAY SAFER BUT AT

899
00:27:15,076 --> 00:27:16,544
LEAST MOVES LIKE THOSE HELPED

900
00:27:16,611 --> 00:27:19,414
LAW ENFORCEMENT CRACK DOWN ON

901
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,815
SEX TRAFFICKING,"

902
00:27:20,882 --> 00:27:22,884
THE THING IS, NOT REALLY.

903
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:25,853
IN THE THREE YEARS AFTER FOSTA

904
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,792
WAS PASSED,

905
00:27:30,858 --> 00:27:33,161
PROSECUTOR SAID THEY USED IT

906
00:27:33,227 --> 00:27:35,730
ONCE.

907
00:27:35,797 --> 00:27:37,231
AS FOR SHUTTING DOWN BACKPAGE,

908
00:27:37,298 --> 00:27:38,366
THAT ACTUALLY MADE IT EVEN

909
00:27:38,433 --> 00:27:39,133
HARDER TO CATCH SEX TRAFFICKERS.

910
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,201
THE SITE WAS U.S.-BASED AND WAS

911
00:27:40,268 --> 00:27:41,035
OFTEN WILLING TO WORK WITH LAW

912
00:27:41,102 --> 00:27:41,669
ENFORCEMENT TO ROOT OUT THE BAD

913
00:27:41,736 --> 00:27:42,336
ACTORS.

914
00:27:42,403 --> 00:27:43,104
AND WITH IT GONE, LAW

915
00:27:43,171 --> 00:27:44,138
ENFORCEMENT SUDDENLY FOUND

916
00:27:44,205 --> 00:27:44,739
TRACKING THEM DOWN TO BE MUCH

917
00:27:44,806 --> 00:27:46,841
MORE DIFFICULT.

918
00:27:46,908 --> 00:27:50,211
>> WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT

919
00:27:50,278 --> 00:27:51,612
WHERE EVERYBODY IS GOING.

920
00:27:51,679 --> 00:27:54,816
THESE NEW WEBSITES HAVE POPPED

921
00:27:54,882 --> 00:27:59,754
UP, DEAD PAGE, ALMOST AN EXACT

922
00:27:59,821 --> 00:28:01,255
REPLICA OF BACKPAGE.

923
00:28:01,322 --> 00:28:05,193
WE HAVE ONE BACKPAGE.

924
00:28:05,259 --> 00:28:07,428
BASICALLY IT'S ALL OF THESE

925
00:28:07,495 --> 00:28:09,397
DIFFERENT WEBSITES THAT WE DON'T

926
00:28:09,464 --> 00:28:11,966
HAVE ANY AGREEMENTS OR SEARCH

927
00:28:12,033 --> 00:28:13,334
TOOLS WITH HIM IT'S KIND OF

928
00:28:13,401 --> 00:28:14,435
SPREAD OUT.

929
00:28:14,502 --> 00:28:15,570
WE DON'T HAVE A CERTAIN LOCATION

930
00:28:15,636 --> 00:28:18,706
TO LOOK FOR THEM ANYMORE.

931
00:28:18,773 --> 00:28:21,909
IT IS KIND OF A CRAPSHOOT.

932
00:28:21,976 --> 00:28:24,579
>> John: THAT'S NOT IDEAL IS

933
00:28:24,645 --> 00:28:25,246
IT?

934
00:28:25,313 --> 00:28:26,180
YEAH, AND OF ALL THE

935
00:28:26,247 --> 00:28:26,781
QUESTIONS THAT RAISES,

936
00:28:26,848 --> 00:28:27,281
I'D ALSO LIKE TO ASK:

937
00:28:27,348 --> 00:28:27,949
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

938
00:28:28,015 --> 00:28:29,016
WITH HER CUBICLE DECOR?

939
00:28:29,083 --> 00:28:29,617
BECAUSE IT INVOLVES NOT JUST

940
00:28:29,684 --> 00:28:30,351
THIS PROMINENTLY DISPLAYED

941
00:28:30,418 --> 00:28:31,385
"PIMPIN' AVE" STREET SIGN --

942
00:28:31,452 --> 00:28:31,953
WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN WEIRD

943
00:28:32,019 --> 00:28:33,221
ENOUGH ON ITS OWN -- BUT ALSO A

944
00:28:33,287 --> 00:28:33,955
GLASS GOBLET FEATURING

945
00:28:34,021 --> 00:28:35,490
RHINESTONES THAT SPELL OUT THE

946
00:28:35,556 --> 00:28:37,325
PHRASE "HO FO' SHO."

947
00:28:37,391 --> 00:28:39,160
WHICH IS A PRETTY WEIRD TONE TO

948
00:28:39,227 --> 00:28:40,461
STRIKE FOR A WORKPLACE THAT

949
00:28:40,528 --> 00:28:42,130
RESCUES SEX TRAFFICKING VICTIMS.

950
00:28:42,196 --> 00:28:43,131
THOSE LOOK MORE LIKE THE

951
00:28:43,197 --> 00:28:44,232
DECORATIONS YOU'D FIND AT A

952
00:28:44,298 --> 00:28:45,433
BACHELORETTE PARTY WHERE THE

953
00:28:45,500 --> 00:28:46,400
GUESTS WIND UP VOMIT-CRYING OUT

954
00:28:46,467 --> 00:28:49,403
THE WINDOW OF A SPEEDING PARTY

955
00:28:49,470 --> 00:28:49,570
BUS.

956
00:28:49,637 --> 00:28:51,339
AND OBVIOUSLY, LAW ENFORCEMENT

957
00:28:51,405 --> 00:28:51,806
SHOULD BE PURSUING SEX

958
00:28:51,873 --> 00:28:53,941
TRAFFICKING WHEREVER IT TAKES

959
00:28:54,008 --> 00:28:54,142
PLACE.

960
00:28:54,208 --> 00:28:55,676
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE POLICE

961
00:28:55,743 --> 00:28:57,111
WILL OFTEN RE-FRAME TRADITIONAL

962
00:28:57,178 --> 00:28:58,546
PROSTITUTION STINGS AS HUMAN

963
00:28:58,613 --> 00:29:00,781
TRAFFICKING ONES.

964
00:29:00,848 --> 00:29:01,883
YOU MIGHT REMEMBER A LARGE STING

965
00:29:01,949 --> 00:29:03,718
OPERATION A FEW YEARS BACK OF

966
00:29:03,784 --> 00:29:05,286
MULTIPLE MASSAGE PARLORS IN

967
00:29:05,353 --> 00:29:05,920
FLORIDA, IN WHICH ROBERT KRAFT,

968
00:29:05,987 --> 00:29:06,888
THE OWNER OF THE PATRIOTS,

969
00:29:06,954 --> 00:29:08,055
WAS CHARGED WITH SOLICITING

970
00:29:08,122 --> 00:29:09,557
PROSTITUTION.

971
00:29:09,624 --> 00:29:10,925
AND THE INITIAL COMMENTS FROM

972
00:29:10,992 --> 00:29:12,560
LAW ENFORCEMENT STRONGLY

973
00:29:12,627 --> 00:29:14,295
SUGGESTED THAT THE WORKERS AT

974
00:29:14,362 --> 00:29:15,696
THE DAY SPA KRAFT WENT TO WERE

975
00:29:15,763 --> 00:29:17,899
PART OF A SEX TRAFFICKING RING.

976
00:29:17,965 --> 00:29:19,133
THE PROSECUTOR WAS EVEN HAPPY TO

977
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,668
BRAG ABOUT THEIR HUMANITARIAN

978
00:29:20,735 --> 00:29:21,402
MISSION IN HIS PRESS CONFERENCE

979
00:29:21,469 --> 00:29:25,306
AFTER THE RAID.

980
00:29:25,373 --> 00:29:28,609
>> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE MEN

981
00:29:28,676 --> 00:29:30,178
AND WOMEN OF THE JUPITER POLICE

982
00:29:30,244 --> 00:29:31,012
DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR

983
00:29:31,078 --> 00:29:32,647
PROFESSIONALISM AND DILIGENCE IN

984
00:29:32,713 --> 00:29:33,948
INVESTIGATING THESE CASES.

985
00:29:34,015 --> 00:29:34,749
YOU CAN TELL A LOT ABOUT OUR

986
00:29:34,815 --> 00:29:38,686
COMMUNITY BY THE WAY IT TREATS

987
00:29:38,753 --> 00:29:39,320
ITS MOST VULNERABLE INDIVIDUALS,

988
00:29:39,387 --> 00:29:41,422
AND THAT INCLUDES VICTIMS OF

989
00:29:41,489 --> 00:29:45,359
HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

990
00:29:45,426 --> 00:29:45,993
>> John: HE'S RIGHT.

991
00:29:46,060 --> 00:29:46,861
YOU CAN TELL A LOT

992
00:29:46,928 --> 00:29:47,628
ABOUT A COMMUNITY BY HOW IT

993
00:29:47,695 --> 00:29:48,329
TREATS THE MOST VULNERABLE.

994
00:29:48,396 --> 00:29:49,230
AND YOU SHOULD KNOW MONTHS

995
00:29:49,297 --> 00:29:49,830
LATER, A PROSECUTOR ADMITTED

996
00:29:49,897 --> 00:29:50,598
NO HUMAN TRAFFICKING AROSE

997
00:29:50,665 --> 00:29:51,265
FROM THE INVESTIGATION.

998
00:29:51,332 --> 00:29:52,133
AND KRAFT'S MISDEMEANOR CHARGES

999
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,502
WERE LATER DROPPED.

1000
00:29:54,569 --> 00:29:56,704
AND YET, THE STATE ATTORNEY'S

1001
00:29:56,771 --> 00:29:58,072
OFFICE CONTINUED TO PURSUE CASES

1002
00:29:58,139 --> 00:29:59,006
AGAINST THE WOMEN -- YOU KNOW,

1003
00:29:59,073 --> 00:30:01,842
THE ONES THEY WERE SUPPOSEDLY

1004
00:30:01,909 --> 00:30:02,343
TRYING TO RESCUE.

1005
00:30:02,410 --> 00:30:03,344
EVENTUALLY, FOUR WOMEN WHO

1006
00:30:03,411 --> 00:30:05,279
WORKED AT THAT SPA WERE

1007
00:30:05,346 --> 00:30:06,747
ARRESTED AND JAILED, WITH THREE

1008
00:30:06,814 --> 00:30:09,383
FINED THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, AND

1009
00:30:09,450 --> 00:30:10,551
ONE ENDING UP IN ICE DETENTION.

1010
00:30:10,618 --> 00:30:11,752
AND ALL THAT IS BAD ENOUGH UNTIL

1011
00:30:11,819 --> 00:30:13,554
YOU LEARN THAT SOME OF THE

1012
00:30:13,621 --> 00:30:14,989
HELP OFFERED TO WORKERS CAUGHT

1013
00:30:15,056 --> 00:30:16,157
UP IN THE LARGER STING CONSISTED

1014
00:30:16,224 --> 00:30:17,658
OF THIS CARE PACKAGE THAT

1015
00:30:17,725 --> 00:30:19,760
INCLUDED BAND-AIDS, MOUTHWASH,

1016
00:30:19,827 --> 00:30:21,229
RAZORS, AND A BOOKLET WRITTEN BY

1017
00:30:21,295 --> 00:30:22,597
MEGACHURCH PASTOR RICK WARREN

1018
00:30:22,663 --> 00:30:24,165
TITLED "WHAT ON EARTH AM I HERE

1019
00:30:24,232 --> 00:30:25,633
FOR?"

1020
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:27,568
WHICH IS LITERALLY ONLY HELPFUL

1021
00:30:27,635 --> 00:30:29,036
IF INSIDE, IT SAYS "TO BE

1022
00:30:29,103 --> 00:30:30,104
SCAPEGOATED IN A

1023
00:30:30,171 --> 00:30:31,372
GENERATIONS-LONG MORALITY WAR

1024
00:30:31,439 --> 00:30:32,974
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU

1025
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,208
AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH HOW WE

1026
00:30:34,275 --> 00:30:35,243
AS A SOCIETY VIEW SEX, MONEY,

1027
00:30:35,309 --> 00:30:38,212
AND POWER."

1028
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:40,481
AND THAT'S HARDLY AN EXCEPTION.

1029
00:30:40,548 --> 00:30:41,682
JUST LISTEN TO ANDREW LEWIS --

1030
00:30:41,749 --> 00:30:43,451
THE FORMER COORDINATOR FOR THE

1031
00:30:43,517 --> 00:30:44,285
GREATER NEW ORLEANS HUMAN

1032
00:30:44,352 --> 00:30:45,653
TRAFFICKING TASK FORCE --

1033
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,289
TELL THE LOUISIANA HOUSE OF

1034
00:30:48,356 --> 00:30:48,923
REPRESENTATIVES ABOUT ONE STING

1035
00:30:48,990 --> 00:30:53,628
OPERATION HE WITNESSED.

1036
00:30:53,694 --> 00:30:56,931
>> WHAT I SAW WAS A STANDARD

1037
00:30:56,998 --> 00:30:59,233
OPERATION AND IT WAS DEEPLY

1038
00:30:59,300 --> 00:30:59,800
TROUBLING.

1039
00:30:59,867 --> 00:31:00,534
AGENTS PRETENDING TO BE CLIENTS

1040
00:31:00,601 --> 00:31:02,303
SET UP DATES WITH SEX WORKERS.

1041
00:31:02,370 --> 00:31:04,138
WHEN A SEX WORKER ARRIVED AT THE

1042
00:31:04,205 --> 00:31:04,972
HOTEL ROOM THEY WOULD BE

1043
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:06,741
ARRESTED AND FORCED INTO ANOTHER

1044
00:31:06,807 --> 00:31:08,876
COLD ROOM, OFTEN WITH VERY

1045
00:31:08,943 --> 00:31:10,645
LITTLE CLOTHING, AND

1046
00:31:10,711 --> 00:31:11,112
INTERVIEWED.

1047
00:31:11,178 --> 00:31:12,413
THE SAME AGENT THAT HANDCUFFED

1048
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,181
THEM WITH THEN ASK THEM IF THEY

1049
00:31:14,248 --> 00:31:14,849
HAD BEEN TRAFFIC.

1050
00:31:14,915 --> 00:31:16,050
AND NO MATTER THEIR RESPONSE,

1051
00:31:16,117 --> 00:31:18,185
THEY WERE ARRESTED AND BOOKED.

1052
00:31:18,252 --> 00:31:20,688
AT THE END OF THE NIGHT, THOSE

1053
00:31:20,755 --> 00:31:23,057
ARRESTS WERE REPORTED BACK TO ME

1054
00:31:23,124 --> 00:31:24,792
AS PROSPECTIVE VICTIMS OF HUMAN

1055
00:31:24,859 --> 00:31:25,393
TRAFFICKING EITHER WHEN THERE

1056
00:31:25,459 --> 00:31:29,163
WAS NO EVIDENCE OF FORCE, FRAUD

1057
00:31:29,230 --> 00:31:30,197
OR COERCION.

1058
00:31:30,264 --> 00:31:31,832
HUMAN TRAFFICKING DOES OCCUR

1059
00:31:31,899 --> 00:31:33,301
LOCALLY MORE THAN WE KNOW ABOUT

1060
00:31:33,367 --> 00:31:35,603
BECAUSE WE ARE SPENDING THE

1061
00:31:35,670 --> 00:31:36,470
MAJORITY OF OUR TIME AND MONEY

1062
00:31:36,537 --> 00:31:38,172
ON CRIMINALIZING CONSENSUAL

1063
00:31:38,239 --> 00:31:40,341
ADULT SEX WORK WE ARE NOT ABLE

1064
00:31:40,408 --> 00:31:41,642
TO HELP THOSE ACTUALLY BEING

1065
00:31:41,709 --> 00:31:43,044
FORCED TO WORK IN THE

1066
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:45,146
CONSTRUCTION, AGRICULTURE, AND

1067
00:31:45,212 --> 00:31:45,813
YES SEX WORK INDUSTRIES IN

1068
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:51,952
LOUISIANA.

1069
00:31:52,019 --> 00:31:52,687
>> John: YEAH, HE'S RIGHT.

1070
00:31:52,753 --> 00:31:53,688
WE CLEARLY SHOULDN'T BE WASTING

1071
00:31:53,754 --> 00:31:54,455
VALUABLE RESOURCES ON ARRESTING

1072
00:31:54,522 --> 00:31:54,955
CONSENSUAL SEX WORKERS.

1073
00:31:55,022 --> 00:31:55,890
AND WE CERTAINLY SHOULDN'T BE

1074
00:31:55,956 --> 00:31:56,524
INTERVIEWING THEM IN COLD ROOMS

1075
00:31:56,590 --> 00:31:57,058
WHILE THEY'RE WEARING VERY

1076
00:31:57,124 --> 00:31:58,092
LITTLE CLOTHING.

1077
00:31:58,159 --> 00:31:59,427
TURNS OUT, POLICE AREN'T SO MUCH

1078
00:31:59,493 --> 00:32:02,129
"RESCUING" PEOPLE AS "LIGHTLY

1079
00:32:02,196 --> 00:32:02,697
REFRIGERATING THEM AND THEN

1080
00:32:02,763 --> 00:32:03,331
SENDING THEM TO JAIL."

1081
00:32:03,397 --> 00:32:04,432
AND WHEN YOU TAKE ALL OF THIS

1082
00:32:04,498 --> 00:32:06,434
TOGETHER, IT'S NO SURPRISE THAT

1083
00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:08,436
MANY WORKERS WHO'VE BEEN ROBBED

1084
00:32:08,502 --> 00:32:09,337
OR ABUSED BY CLIENTS REPORT THAT

1085
00:32:09,403 --> 00:32:10,004
THEY FEEL THEY CAN'T TURN TO THE

1086
00:32:10,071 --> 00:32:11,439
POLICE FOR HELP.

1087
00:32:11,505 --> 00:32:13,708
AND IN SOME CASES, THOSE WHO

1088
00:32:13,774 --> 00:32:17,678
HAVE TURNED TO THE POLICE SAY

1089
00:32:17,745 --> 00:32:21,716
THEY DEEPLY REGRET IT.

1090
00:32:21,782 --> 00:32:23,484
>> YEARS AGO I REPORTED A RAPE

1091
00:32:23,551 --> 00:32:25,486
FROM A CLIENT I WAS SUPPOSED TO

1092
00:32:25,553 --> 00:32:26,554
BE WORKING WITH.

1093
00:32:26,620 --> 00:32:29,190
I JUST WOUND UP BEING ARRESTED.

1094
00:32:29,256 --> 00:32:33,227
I SPENT A LONG TIME IN JAIL.

1095
00:32:33,294 --> 00:32:35,029
FOR TRYING TO REPORT A RAPE AND

1096
00:32:35,096 --> 00:32:38,065
YOU JUST LEARN BETTER.

1097
00:32:38,132 --> 00:32:39,900
NO WAY I'LL DEAL WITH THE COPS.

1098
00:32:39,967 --> 00:32:41,469
I WILL GET RAPED 100 TIMES

1099
00:32:41,535 --> 00:32:45,873
BEFORE I DEAL WITH THEM.

1100
00:32:45,940 --> 00:32:46,507
>> John: YEAH.

1101
00:32:46,574 --> 00:32:47,408
SHE WENT TO REPORT A RAPE

1102
00:32:47,475 --> 00:32:48,109
AND ENDED UP IN JAIL.

1103
00:32:48,175 --> 00:32:48,976
I'D CALL IT DYSTOPIAN IF IT

1104
00:32:49,043 --> 00:32:49,543
WEREN'T SO FUCKING AMERICAN.

1105
00:32:49,610 --> 00:32:50,277
SO AT EVERY TURN, WE ARE MAKING

1106
00:32:50,344 --> 00:32:51,278
LIFE HARDER BOTH FOR PEOPLE WHO

1107
00:32:51,345 --> 00:32:52,046
WANT TO REMAIN IN THE SEX TRADE,

1108
00:32:52,113 --> 00:32:53,280
AND FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO

1109
00:32:53,347 --> 00:32:54,348
LEAVE IT.

1110
00:32:54,415 --> 00:32:56,183
SO HOW DO WE FIX THIS?

1111
00:32:56,250 --> 00:32:57,551
WELL, THERE ARE ACTUALLY A FEW

1112
00:32:57,618 --> 00:32:59,653
DIFFERENT OPTIONS OPEN TO US.

1113
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,554
AND LET'S START WITH THE MOST

1114
00:33:00,621 --> 00:33:01,589
RESTRICTIVE.

1115
00:33:01,655 --> 00:33:02,890
SOME ADVOCATE FOR SOMETHING

1116
00:33:02,957 --> 00:33:04,358
CALLED "THE NORDIC MODEL."

1117
00:33:04,425 --> 00:33:05,493
WHICH, I KNOW, SOUNDS LIKE THE

1118
00:33:05,559 --> 00:33:07,461
ANSWER LEONARDO DICAPRIO WOULD

1119
00:33:07,528 --> 00:33:08,696
GIVE TO THE QUESTION, "WHO WOULD

1120
00:33:08,763 --> 00:33:10,664
YOU LIKE TO FUCK?"

1121
00:33:10,731 --> 00:33:12,299
BUT THE NORDIC MODEL IS THE ONE

1122
00:33:12,366 --> 00:33:13,734
THAT INTUITIVELY MIGHT MAKE

1123
00:33:13,801 --> 00:33:15,503
SENSE TO YOU.

1124
00:33:15,569 --> 00:33:19,874
IT CRIMINALIZES THE BUYING OF

1125
00:33:19,940 --> 00:33:21,075
SEX BUT NOT THE SELLING IT.

1126
00:33:21,142 --> 00:33:22,143
SO WE'D ARREST THE CLIENTS, BUT

1127
00:33:22,209 --> 00:33:23,043
NOT THE WORKERS -- THE ONES

1128
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:25,246
YOU'RE PRESUMABLY CONCERNED FOR.

1129
00:33:25,312 --> 00:33:25,913
IT'S BEEN ADOPTED IN MANY

1130
00:33:25,980 --> 00:33:26,747
COUNTRIES, INCLUDING SWEDEN,

1131
00:33:26,814 --> 00:33:29,116
FINLAND, NORWAY, AND FRANCE.

1132
00:33:29,183 --> 00:33:30,251
AND WHILE IT MIGHT SOUND GOOD ON

1133
00:33:30,317 --> 00:33:31,719
THE SURFACE, ONE PROBLEM WITH IT

1134
00:33:31,786 --> 00:33:33,554
IS THAT SEX BUYERS DON'T WANT TO

1135
00:33:33,621 --> 00:33:34,355
BE ARRESTED ANY MORE THAN SEX

1136
00:33:34,422 --> 00:33:36,557
WORKERS DO.

1137
00:33:36,624 --> 00:33:37,625
MEANING WORKERS STILL HAVE TO

1138
00:33:37,691 --> 00:33:38,759
MEET CLIENTS IN THE SHADOWS.

1139
00:33:38,826 --> 00:33:39,927
SO, FOR INSTANCE, IT'S STILL

1140
00:33:39,994 --> 00:33:41,462
DIFFICULT TO VET THEM ONLINE.

1141
00:33:41,529 --> 00:33:42,797
AND IF YOU'RE ON THE STREET, IT

1142
00:33:42,863 --> 00:33:44,231
CAN BE EVEN WORSE, AS THIS

1143
00:33:44,298 --> 00:33:50,337
SWEDISH SEX WORKER EXPLAINS.

1144
00:33:50,404 --> 00:33:52,640
>> FOR WOMEN IN THE STREET THIS

1145
00:33:52,706 --> 00:33:54,775
HAS BEEN VERY, VERY BAD.

1146
00:33:54,842 --> 00:33:56,610
BEFORE THEY HAVE THIS THING

1147
00:33:56,677 --> 00:33:58,245
HANGING IN THE CAR WINDOW,

1148
00:33:58,312 --> 00:33:59,013
HAVING THE DISCUSSION.

1149
00:33:59,079 --> 00:33:59,613
THIS IS WHAT I'M WILLING TO

1150
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:00,181
SELL.

1151
00:34:00,247 --> 00:34:02,082
THIS IS WHAT I'M WILLING TO DO.

1152
00:34:02,149 --> 00:34:03,050
THEY DON'T HAVE TIME BECAUSE

1153
00:34:03,117 --> 00:34:03,984
CLIENTS ARE JUMPING SO THEY HAVE

1154
00:34:04,051 --> 00:34:06,187
TO GET IN THE CAR, DRIVE OFF

1155
00:34:06,253 --> 00:34:07,321
THEN NEGOTIATE AND THEN THEY ARE

1156
00:34:07,388 --> 00:34:11,459
ALREADY IN THE CAR.

1157
00:34:11,525 --> 00:34:12,526
>> John: RIGHT.

1158
00:34:12,593 --> 00:34:13,160
YOU CAN'T TELL IN A SPLIT SECOND

1159
00:34:13,227 --> 00:34:13,861
OF LOOKING AT A CAR IF IT'S SAFE

1160
00:34:13,928 --> 00:34:14,228
TO GET IN.

1161
00:34:14,295 --> 00:34:15,463
IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S A BUMPER

1162
00:34:15,529 --> 00:34:16,063
STICKER THAT SAYS "MY CHILD IS

1163
00:34:16,130 --> 00:34:16,931
AN HONOR ROLL STUDENT AND I'M A

1164
00:34:16,997 --> 00:34:17,765
FUCKING SOCIOPATH" TO TIP YOU

1165
00:34:17,832 --> 00:34:18,866
OFF.

1166
00:34:18,933 --> 00:34:19,667
SO THE TRUTH IS, MANY SEX

1167
00:34:19,733 --> 00:34:20,301
WORKERS DON'T LOVE THE NORDIC

1168
00:34:20,367 --> 00:34:22,169
MODEL.

1169
00:34:22,236 --> 00:34:23,637
ANOTHER OPTION WE COULD GO WITH

1170
00:34:23,704 --> 00:34:25,005
IS LEGALIZATION.

1171
00:34:25,072 --> 00:34:26,941
THAT'S WHERE WORKERS AND CLIENTS

1172
00:34:27,007 --> 00:34:27,575
CAN LEGALLY OPERATE, WITHIN

1173
00:34:27,641 --> 00:34:29,810
CERTAIN REGULATIONS.

1174
00:34:29,877 --> 00:34:31,445
IT'S THE MODEL EMPLOYED BY

1175
00:34:31,512 --> 00:34:32,546
AMSTERDAM AND SOME COUNTIES IN

1176
00:34:32,613 --> 00:34:33,714
NEVADA.

1177
00:34:33,781 --> 00:34:35,816
THERE, SEX WORKERS ARE LIMITED

1178
00:34:35,883 --> 00:34:37,151
TO WORKING AS INDEPENDENT

1179
00:34:37,218 --> 00:34:38,586
CONTRACTORS AND MUST DO SO IN

1180
00:34:38,652 --> 00:34:40,421
REGULATED BROTHELS, TYPICALLY

1181
00:34:40,488 --> 00:34:42,156
EARNING FORTY TO FIFTY PERCENT

1182
00:34:42,223 --> 00:34:43,858
OF WHAT THEY BRING IN BY

1183
00:34:43,924 --> 00:34:45,092
SERVICING CUSTOMERS, WITH THE

1184
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:46,627
REMAINDER GOING TO THE BROTHEL.

1185
00:34:46,694 --> 00:34:48,295
AND IF YOU'RE WONDERING WHY

1186
00:34:48,362 --> 00:34:49,129
THOSE BROTHELS GET TO TAKE SO

1187
00:34:49,196 --> 00:34:51,098
MUCH, IT'S SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY

1188
00:34:51,165 --> 00:34:53,100
CAN -- NEVADA ESSENTIALLY GIVES

1189
00:34:53,167 --> 00:34:54,935
THEM A MONOPOLY.

1190
00:34:55,002 --> 00:34:57,271
THAT'S JUST ONE REASON WHY SEX

1191
00:34:57,338 --> 00:34:59,039
WORKERS TEND NOT TO BE KEEN ON

1192
00:34:59,106 --> 00:35:01,842
THE HEAVILY-REGULATED

1193
00:35:01,909 --> 00:35:02,843
LEGALIZATION OPTION EITHER.

1194
00:35:02,910 --> 00:35:04,278
INSTEAD, WHAT MANY OF THEM

1195
00:35:04,345 --> 00:35:05,679
ADVOCATE FOR IS SOMETHING CALLED

1196
00:35:05,746 --> 00:35:06,981
DECRIMINALIZATION, WHICH VERY

1197
00:35:07,047 --> 00:35:09,016
SIMPLY REMOVES ALL CRIMINAL

1198
00:35:09,083 --> 00:35:10,284
PENALTIES FOR THE BUYING AND

1199
00:35:10,351 --> 00:35:13,420
SELLING OF CONSENSUAL SEX.

1200
00:35:13,487 --> 00:35:14,421
IT'S A MODEL CURRENTLY EMPLOYED

1201
00:35:14,488 --> 00:35:16,056
BY NEW ZEALAND, A COUNTRY THAT

1202
00:35:16,123 --> 00:35:18,526
DOES SEEM TO MAKE A LOT OF SMART

1203
00:35:18,592 --> 00:35:20,427
CHOICES -- WITH THE GLARING

1204
00:35:20,494 --> 00:35:21,061
EXCEPTION, OF COURSE, OF

1205
00:35:21,128 --> 00:35:26,600
"CHOOSING A NATIONAL BIRD."

1206
00:35:26,667 --> 00:35:27,668
BECAUSE WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH

1207
00:35:27,735 --> 00:35:29,203
THE KIWI?

1208
00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:29,703
IT'S AN INCORRECT DUCK.

1209
00:35:29,770 --> 00:35:30,304
IT'S WHAT YOU'D GET IF A FIRST

1210
00:35:30,371 --> 00:35:31,405
GRADER WAS ASSIGNED TO DRAW A

1211
00:35:31,472 --> 00:35:35,976
BIRD AND THEN JUST FORGOT.

1212
00:35:36,043 --> 00:35:36,877
MY POINT HERE IS:

1213
00:35:36,944 --> 00:35:37,645
IN NEW ZEALAND'S

1214
00:35:37,711 --> 00:35:38,479
SYSTEM, ANY SEX WORKER CAN

1215
00:35:38,546 --> 00:35:39,313
LEGALLY WORK FOR THEMSELVES

1216
00:35:39,380 --> 00:35:40,581
OR IN A BROTHEL.

1217
00:35:40,648 --> 00:35:43,450
AND BROTHEL OWNERS HAVE TO HAVE

1218
00:35:43,517 --> 00:35:45,219
SPECIAL CERTIFICATES AND VERIFY

1219
00:35:45,286 --> 00:35:46,487
THEIR WORKERS ARE OVER 18 AND

1220
00:35:46,554 --> 00:35:48,856
USE SAFE SEX PRACTICES.

1221
00:35:48,923 --> 00:35:50,124
BUT CRUCIALLY, THIS SYSTEM MEANS

1222
00:35:50,190 --> 00:35:52,560
THAT SEX WORKERS HAVE

1223
00:35:52,626 --> 00:35:53,527
FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS, FROM BEING

1224
00:35:53,594 --> 00:35:54,161
ABLE TO ACCESS UNEMPLOYMENT

1225
00:35:54,228 --> 00:35:55,429
BENEFITS, TO HEALTHCARE, TO

1226
00:35:55,496 --> 00:35:55,996
BEING COVERED BY WORKPLACE

1227
00:35:56,063 --> 00:35:58,232
PROTECTIONS.

1228
00:35:58,299 --> 00:35:59,600
SEX WORKERS HAVE SUCCESSFULLY

1229
00:35:59,667 --> 00:36:01,902
SUED OVER SEXUAL HARASSMENT THEY

1230
00:36:01,969 --> 00:36:02,736
EXPERIENCED IN A BROTHEL.

1231
00:36:02,803 --> 00:36:04,171
AND HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GO TO THE

1232
00:36:04,238 --> 00:36:05,706
POLICE -- IN FACT, LAST YEAR, A

1233
00:36:05,773 --> 00:36:07,441
MAN WAS CONVICTED FOR RAPE IN A

1234
00:36:07,508 --> 00:36:11,278
"STEALTHING" CASE AFTER HE

1235
00:36:11,345 --> 00:36:13,347
REMOVED A CONDOM WITHOUT

1236
00:36:13,414 --> 00:36:14,315
A SEX WORKER'S CONSENT.

1237
00:36:14,381 --> 00:36:15,382
IT'S A HUMAN-RIGHTS-CENTERED

1238
00:36:15,449 --> 00:36:15,916
APPROACH THAT SEEMS TO BE

1239
00:36:15,983 --> 00:36:16,750
WORKING.

1240
00:36:16,817 --> 00:36:18,085
AND A SEX WORKER IN NEW ZEALAND

1241
00:36:18,152 --> 00:36:19,853
GIVES CREDIT FOR THIS TO THE

1242
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,523
FACT THAT THE PEOPLE WRITING THE

1243
00:36:22,590 --> 00:36:26,860
LAWS DID ONE KEY THING.

1244
00:36:26,927 --> 00:36:28,629
>> NEW ZEALAND SEEMS TO BE ONLY

1245
00:36:28,696 --> 00:36:30,864
COUNTRY THAT'S GOT IT RIGHT AND

1246
00:36:30,931 --> 00:36:32,366
THAT'S BECAUSE THEY CONSULTED

1247
00:36:32,433 --> 00:36:33,033
SEX WORKERS.

1248
00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:34,468
ANY OTHER COUNTRY DOESN'T TALK

1249
00:36:34,535 --> 00:36:35,569
TO SEX WORKERS.

1250
00:36:35,636 --> 00:36:37,071
THEY MAKE PLANS AND LAWS FOR

1251
00:36:37,137 --> 00:36:38,072
THEM WITHOUT DISCUSSING WITH

1252
00:36:38,138 --> 00:36:38,973
THEM OR CARING ABOUT WHAT THEY

1253
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:42,409
SAY.

1254
00:36:42,476 --> 00:36:43,344
>> John: EXACTLY.

1255
00:36:43,410 --> 00:36:43,978
AND IT'S SAD THAT THAT'S SO

1256
00:36:44,044 --> 00:36:44,712
SURPRISING.

1257
00:36:44,778 --> 00:36:45,346
BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, IT SEEMS

1258
00:36:45,412 --> 00:36:46,213
MOST COUNTRIES' LAWS TREAT SEX

1259
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,081
WORKERS THE EXACT SAME WAY WE

1260
00:36:47,147 --> 00:36:48,382
TREAT CATS ON HALLOWEEN.

1261
00:36:48,449 --> 00:36:49,383
THAT IS, SQUEEZING THEM INTO BAD

1262
00:36:49,450 --> 00:36:50,951
SITUATIONS WITHOUT THEIR INPUT

1263
00:36:51,018 --> 00:36:51,919
OR CONSENT AND REFUSING TO TAKE

1264
00:36:51,986 --> 00:36:53,287
THEIR FEELINGS INTO

1265
00:36:53,354 --> 00:36:57,758
CONSIDERATION WHEN THEY'RE

1266
00:36:57,825 --> 00:36:58,926
CLEARLY NOT THAT HAPPY.

1267
00:36:58,993 --> 00:36:59,760
AND LOOK -- I'M NOT SAYING THE

1268
00:36:59,827 --> 00:37:00,694
NEW ZEALAND MODEL IS PERFECT.

1269
00:37:00,761 --> 00:37:03,631
THAT WOMAN ACKNOWLEDGES THAT

1270
00:37:03,697 --> 00:37:05,065
AND THERE ARE GOOD-FAITH

1271
00:37:05,132 --> 00:37:05,699
DISAGREEMENTS TO BE HAD OVER THE

1272
00:37:05,766 --> 00:37:06,100
FINER POINTS OF A

1273
00:37:06,166 --> 00:37:07,901
DECRIMINALIZATION POLICY.

1274
00:37:07,968 --> 00:37:10,604
BUT IF WE BASICALLY AGREE, AS I

1275
00:37:10,671 --> 00:37:12,773
HOPE WE DO, THAT MAKING SEX WORK

1276
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,874
SAFER FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DO IT

1277
00:37:13,941 --> 00:37:16,543
IS A PRIORITY, IT'S THE

1278
00:37:16,610 --> 00:37:17,811
DIRECTION TO STRIVE TOWARD.

1279
00:37:17,878 --> 00:37:18,746
AND WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING SOME

1280
00:37:18,812 --> 00:37:19,279
SLOW STEPS IN THE RIGHT

1281
00:37:19,346 --> 00:37:20,848
DIRECTION.

1282
00:37:20,914 --> 00:37:22,750
NEW YORK RECENTLY REPEALED ITS

1283
00:37:22,816 --> 00:37:24,151
LOITERING LAW, AND CALIFORNIA

1284
00:37:24,218 --> 00:37:25,986
SEEMS POISED TO DO THE SAME.

1285
00:37:26,053 --> 00:37:27,221
MEANWHILE, PROSECUTORS AROUND

1286
00:37:27,287 --> 00:37:27,955
THE COUNTRY HAVE ANNOUNCED THEY

1287
00:37:28,022 --> 00:37:30,658
WON'T PURSUE CERTAIN

1288
00:37:30,724 --> 00:37:31,859
PROSTITUTION CASES AND WILL

1289
00:37:31,925 --> 00:37:33,227
DISMISS THOUSANDS OF PENDING

1290
00:37:33,293 --> 00:37:36,063
ONES, WHICH IS GREAT.

1291
00:37:36,130 --> 00:37:37,264
AND LOOK, TO THOSE WHO ARE STILL

1292
00:37:37,331 --> 00:37:38,465
UNCOMFORTABLE, OUT OF A CONCERN

1293
00:37:38,532 --> 00:37:39,266
THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO FEEL

1294
00:37:39,333 --> 00:37:42,836
ECONOMICALLY FORCED INTO SEX

1295
00:37:42,903 --> 00:37:44,438
WORK, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.

1296
00:37:44,505 --> 00:37:45,706
THAT IS A HUGE PROBLEM.

1297
00:37:45,773 --> 00:37:47,174
BUT THE FACT IS, OUR CURRENT

1298
00:37:47,241 --> 00:37:50,010
LAWS ARE NOT ADDRESSING THAT.

1299
00:37:50,077 --> 00:37:51,311
IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, THAT'S A

1300
00:37:51,378 --> 00:37:53,347
MUCH BIGGER CONVERSATION.

1301
00:37:53,414 --> 00:37:55,082
BECAUSE FUNDAMENTALLY, THE ONLY

1302
00:37:55,149 --> 00:37:56,884
WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE

1303
00:37:56,950 --> 00:37:57,551
HAVE A CHOICE IN THE WAY THEY

1304
00:37:57,618 --> 00:37:58,352
EARN MONEY IS TO MAKE HOUSING

1305
00:37:58,419 --> 00:37:59,887
AFFORDABLE, HEALTHCARE

1306
00:37:59,953 --> 00:38:01,221
ACCESSIBLE, AND TO NOT BURDEN

1307
00:38:01,288 --> 00:38:02,189
MARGINALIZED PEOPLE WITH

1308
00:38:02,256 --> 00:38:02,856
CRIMINAL RECORDS THAT LEAD TO A

1309
00:38:02,923 --> 00:38:03,590
CYCLE OF JOBLESSNESS,

1310
00:38:03,657 --> 00:38:06,293
HOMELESSNESS, AND DESPERATION.

1311
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,029
BUT UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE HAVE

1312
00:38:09,096 --> 00:38:10,431
THAT CONVERSATION --

1313
00:38:10,497 --> 00:38:11,632
AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE

1314
00:38:11,699 --> 00:38:14,301
SOMETHING ENOUGH PEOPLE ARE

1315
00:38:14,368 --> 00:38:15,803
ITCHING TO HAVE RIGHT NOW --

1316
00:38:15,869 --> 00:38:17,638
WE NEED TO STOP PURSUING

1317
00:38:17,705 --> 00:38:19,940
POLICIES THAT HARASS, ENDANGER,

1318
00:38:20,007 --> 00:38:21,108
AND OCCASIONALLY REFRIGERATE

1319
00:38:21,175 --> 00:38:22,109
SEX WORKERS AND INSTEAD, START

1320
00:38:22,176 --> 00:38:22,743
LISTENING TO WHAT THEY ACTUALLY

1321
00:38:22,810 --> 00:38:23,444
WANT.

1322
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:27,581
BECAUSE, UNFORTUNATELY, IF WE

1323
00:38:27,648 --> 00:38:29,149
DON'T DO THAT, THEN WE'RE GOING

1324
00:38:29,216 --> 00:38:29,850
TO CARRY ON LOOKING LIKE A BUNCH

1325
00:38:29,917 --> 00:38:30,517
OF FUCKING CLOWNS.

1326
00:38:30,584 --> 00:38:32,986
AND NOW THIS.

1327
00:38:33,053 --> 00:38:34,188
>> Announcer: AND NOW A FOND

1328
00:38:34,254 --> 00:38:34,922
FAREWELL TO THE WENDY WILLIAMS

1329
00:38:34,988 --> 00:38:36,890
SHOW.

1330
00:38:36,957 --> 00:38:38,525
>> HOW YOU DOIN'?

1331
00:38:38,592 --> 00:38:42,162
UH-UH.

1332
00:38:42,229 --> 00:38:43,731
FIRST-TIME CUSTOMER.

1333
00:38:43,797 --> 00:38:45,466
THIS IS AN ACCOMPLISHED WOMAN

1334
00:38:45,532 --> 00:38:47,267
ACCORDING TO EVERYBODY BUT ME.

1335
00:38:47,334 --> 00:38:49,403
I DON'T KNOW WHO THIS IS.

1336
00:38:49,470 --> 00:38:50,170
THERE IS NOTHING WORSE THAN AN

1337
00:38:50,237 --> 00:38:51,305
ATTRACTIVE KILLER.

1338
00:38:51,371 --> 00:38:52,306
WHAT THE CRIMINOLOGY IS GOING

1339
00:38:52,372 --> 00:38:53,741
ON?

1340
00:38:53,807 --> 00:38:56,610
WHAT THE BRUCE LEE IS GOING ON?

1341
00:38:56,677 --> 00:38:57,211
WHAT THE LUTHER VANDROSS IS

1342
00:38:57,277 --> 00:38:58,245
GOING ON WITH YOU?

1343
00:38:58,312 --> 00:39:00,614
SOMEONE IS GOING TO GET FIRED.

1344
00:39:00,681 --> 00:39:03,550
I THINK IT SHOULD BE YOU.

1345
00:39:03,617 --> 00:39:04,952
THEY TOOK A MASSIVE DUMP

1346
00:39:05,018 --> 00:39:05,753
IN A PAIR OF MANOLO BLAHNIKS.

1347
00:39:05,819 --> 00:39:06,353
I EAT MY BAKED POTATO

1348
00:39:06,420 --> 00:39:10,624
WITH THE SKIN.

1349
00:39:10,691 --> 00:39:11,925
CLAP IF YOU EAT THE SKIN.

1350
00:39:11,992 --> 00:39:13,260
CLAP IF YOU THINK SHE SHOULD

1351
00:39:13,327 --> 00:39:13,494
SUFFER.

1352
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:14,528
CLAP IF YOU'VE EVER WANTED TO

1353
00:39:14,595 --> 00:39:16,697
KILL SOMEBODY.

1354
00:39:16,764 --> 00:39:18,932
I AM TRYING TO PUSH A BURP DOWN.

1355
00:39:18,999 --> 00:39:19,800
THAT'S A PROBLEM WHEN YOU START

1356
00:39:19,867 --> 00:39:21,235
OUT HOT.

1357
00:39:21,301 --> 00:39:22,736
THERE IS NOWHERE TO GO BUT DOWN.

1358
00:39:22,803 --> 00:39:24,037
HE IS SO WEAK,

1359
00:39:24,104 --> 00:39:29,209
I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

1360
00:39:29,276 --> 00:39:30,244
I AM ABOUT TO DITCH RESPECT YOU

1361
00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:32,112
CRAZY.

1362
00:39:32,179 --> 00:39:32,713
THAT HEAD IS LONG.

1363
00:39:32,780 --> 00:39:33,447
GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY.

1364
00:39:33,514 --> 00:39:40,120
DIE, DIE, DIE.

1365
00:39:40,187 --> 00:39:40,854
IT'S OKAY.

1366
00:39:40,921 --> 00:39:41,522
IT'S OKAY.

1367
00:39:41,588 --> 00:39:49,196
IT'S OKAY.

1368
00:39:49,263 --> 00:39:49,730
[APPLAUSE]

1369
00:39:49,797 --> 00:39:51,632
>> John: THAT'S OUR SHOW.

1370
00:39:51,698 --> 00:39:52,699
THANKS SO MUCH FOR WATCHING.