1 00:00:14,066 --> 00:00:22,566 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:22,633 --> 00:00:29,800 ♪ ♪ 3 00:00:29,866 --> 00:00:31,066 >> John: HI THERE! 4 00:00:31,133 --> 00:00:31,533 WELCOME TO THE SHOW. 5 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:32,133 STILL TAKING PLACE 6 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,833 IN THIS BLANK VOID. 7 00:00:33,900 --> 00:00:35,066 IT'S ACTUALLY THE PLACE ALL YOUR 8 00:00:35,133 --> 00:00:36,566 AIRPODS GO WHEN YOU LOSE THEM. 9 00:00:36,633 --> 00:00:37,500 I BET YOU THOUGHT THIS WAS 10 00:00:37,566 --> 00:00:38,400 RATTLING AROUND YOUR CAR'S 11 00:00:38,466 --> 00:00:39,333 FLOOR MATS. 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,233 NOPE -- IT'S MINE NOW! 13 00:00:41,300 --> 00:00:43,266 INTO THE PILE YOU GO! 14 00:00:43,333 --> 00:00:44,233 IT'S BEEN A BUSY WEEK, 15 00:00:44,300 --> 00:00:45,433 FROM REPUBLICANS TRYING 16 00:00:45,500 --> 00:00:46,200 TO OUST LIZ CHENEY FROM 17 00:00:46,266 --> 00:00:46,733 HOUSE LEADERSHIP, 18 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:47,766 TO CALIFORNIA GEARING UP 19 00:00:47,833 --> 00:00:48,966 FOR THE RECALL ELECTION OF 20 00:00:49,033 --> 00:00:50,466 GOVERNOR GAVIN NEWSOM. 21 00:00:50,533 --> 00:00:52,833 MULTIPLE CANDIDATES HAVE ALREADY 22 00:00:52,900 --> 00:00:54,066 FILED TO RUN AGAINST HIM, ONE 23 00:00:54,133 --> 00:00:55,200 OF WHOM RELEASED THIS AD: 24 00:00:55,266 --> 00:00:55,766 >> THIS BEAUTY HAS PROVEN HE 25 00:00:55,833 --> 00:00:56,300 CAN'T DO IT. 26 00:00:56,366 --> 00:00:57,333 >> PRETTY BOY. 27 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:02,266 >> THE BEAST CAN. 28 00:01:02,333 --> 00:01:02,566 [AURORA] 29 00:01:02,633 --> 00:01:03,600 THIS TIME, MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE 30 00:01:03,666 --> 00:01:04,566 FOR CALIFORNIA AND YOUR FAMILY. 31 00:01:04,633 --> 00:01:06,400 RECALL THE BEAUTY, AND ELECT 32 00:01:06,466 --> 00:01:07,833 THE NICEST, SMARTEST BEAST 33 00:01:07,900 --> 00:01:09,433 YOU'VE EVER MET. 34 00:01:09,500 --> 00:01:14,700 JOHN COX. 35 00:01:14,766 --> 00:01:19,133 [ROAR] 36 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,033 >> John: ALL OF THAT'S IDIOTIC, 37 00:01:20,100 --> 00:01:21,033 BUT I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON THE 38 00:01:21,100 --> 00:01:22,800 FACT THAT HE SEEMS TO THINK 39 00:01:22,866 --> 00:01:24,266 THE PROBLEM IN "BEAUTY AND 40 00:01:24,333 --> 00:01:25,366 THE BEAST" WAS ABOUT CHOOSING 41 00:01:25,433 --> 00:01:26,566 BETWEEN THE TWO, WHEN EVERYONE 42 00:01:26,633 --> 00:01:27,366 KNOWS THE PROBLEM WAS, HOW ARE 43 00:01:27,433 --> 00:01:27,833 THESE TWO FUCKING? 44 00:01:27,900 --> 00:01:29,400 WE KNOW IT'S HAPPENING, 45 00:01:29,466 --> 00:01:30,300 WE KNOW IT'S GREAT, 46 00:01:30,366 --> 00:01:34,033 AND WE KNOW IT'S WEIRD, 47 00:01:34,100 --> 00:01:35,033 BUT HOW EXACTLY DOES IT WORK? 48 00:01:35,100 --> 00:01:35,733 DO THEY TAKE SPECIAL PRECAUTIONS 49 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:36,800 AROUND THE FLAMES TO AVOID 50 00:01:36,866 --> 00:01:37,733 BURNING, OR IS THE BURNING PART 51 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:38,300 OF IT? 52 00:01:38,366 --> 00:01:39,466 SAME QUESTION, BUT ABOUT THE 53 00:01:39,533 --> 00:01:40,266 FEATHER DUSTER AND SNEEZING, 54 00:01:40,333 --> 00:01:46,266 IS THE SNEEZING PART OF IT? 55 00:01:46,333 --> 00:01:46,866 I HOPE THE SNEEZING IS PART OF 56 00:01:46,933 --> 00:01:47,633 IT! 57 00:01:47,700 --> 00:01:48,633 THAT GUY COMMITTED TO THE BEAR 58 00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:49,666 METAPHOR, EVEN BRINGING ONE 59 00:01:49,733 --> 00:01:50,600 TO A CAMPAIGN EVENT, ONLY 60 00:01:50,666 --> 00:01:51,500 TO COMPLAIN THE NEXT DAY THAT 61 00:01:51,566 --> 00:01:52,133 "THE COVERAGE YESTERDAY WAS ALL 62 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,366 ABOUT THE BEAR." 63 00:01:53,433 --> 00:01:57,533 AND YEAH, NO SHIT. 64 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:58,333 YOU BROUGHT A LITERAL 65 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,266 DANCING BEAR. 66 00:01:59,333 --> 00:02:00,100 THE UNIVERSAL METAPHOR FOR 67 00:02:00,166 --> 00:02:00,966 "DISTRACTING GIMMICK PEOPLE PAY 68 00:02:01,033 --> 00:02:02,066 ATTENTION TO INSTEAD OF WHATEVER 69 00:02:02,133 --> 00:02:04,000 THE FUCK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT." 70 00:02:04,066 --> 00:02:06,133 MEANWHILE, THE WEEK SAW 71 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,600 THE LATEST ATTEMPTS TO UNDERMINE 72 00:02:07,666 --> 00:02:08,500 THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, 73 00:02:08,566 --> 00:02:09,600 WITH TEXAS AND FLORIDA 74 00:02:09,666 --> 00:02:10,266 CONTINUING THE TREND OF 75 00:02:10,333 --> 00:02:11,466 REPUBLICANS ENACTING 76 00:02:11,533 --> 00:02:13,566 NEW VOTING RESTRICTIONS. 77 00:02:13,633 --> 00:02:15,433 FLORIDA'S GOVERNOR RON DESANTIS 78 00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:16,733 -- A MAN WITH A VIBE THAT 79 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,800 SCREAMS "WILL FLIRT WITH YOUR 80 00:02:18,866 --> 00:02:19,766 TEENAGE FRIENDS" -- SIGNED 81 00:02:19,833 --> 00:02:25,400 A BILL, LIVE ON 82 00:02:25,466 --> 00:02:27,333 "FOX AND FRIENDS," FOR SOME 83 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:28,400 REASON, THAT TARGETS BALLOT DROP 84 00:02:28,466 --> 00:02:29,500 BOXES AND VOTING BY MAIL. 85 00:02:29,566 --> 00:02:30,466 MEANWHILE, IN TEXAS, THEIR NEW 86 00:02:30,533 --> 00:02:31,400 VOTER-SUPPRESSION BILL INITIALLY 87 00:02:31,466 --> 00:02:31,900 FEATURED A LINE ABOUT THE 88 00:02:31,966 --> 00:02:32,933 IMPORTANCE OF PROTECTING 89 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:33,966 "THE PURITY OF THE BALLOT BOX," 90 00:02:34,033 --> 00:02:35,000 LEADING TO THIS AWKWARD EXCHANGE 91 00:02:35,066 --> 00:02:36,300 WITH ONE OF ITS SPONSORS. 92 00:02:36,366 --> 00:02:37,700 >> DID YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY 93 00:02:37,766 --> 00:02:41,200 BEFORE USING THAT WORD? 94 00:02:41,266 --> 00:02:42,400 >> NO, NO, THE ONLY THING, IF WE 95 00:02:42,466 --> 00:02:43,000 WERE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION -- 96 00:02:43,066 --> 00:02:44,333 MAYBE OVER SOME COFFEE OR 97 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:45,166 DRINKS, ONE DAY, I COULD GO INTO 98 00:02:45,233 --> 00:02:45,900 THE DETAILS OF ARTICLE ONE 99 00:02:45,966 --> 00:02:47,100 REALLY WELL. 100 00:02:47,166 --> 00:02:48,733 I'VE READ THE DEBATES AND THE 101 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,066 JOURNALS OF THE CONVENTION OF 102 00:02:51,133 --> 00:02:53,166 1875 ON THAT, FOR THAT THING, 103 00:02:53,233 --> 00:03:00,166 BUT I'M NOT FAMILIAR. 104 00:03:00,233 --> 00:03:01,333 >> YOU MAY HAVE MISSED IT THEN. 105 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:02,100 THAT PROVISION WAS DRAFTED 106 00:03:02,166 --> 00:03:03,033 SPECIFICALLY TO DISENFRANCHISE 107 00:03:03,100 --> 00:03:03,933 BLACK PEOPLE -- BLACK VOTERS, 108 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,100 IN FACT -- FOLLOWING 109 00:03:05,166 --> 00:03:05,900 THE CIVIL WAR. 110 00:03:05,966 --> 00:03:06,600 DID YOU KNOW THAT? 111 00:03:06,666 --> 00:03:07,633 >> NO, THAT'S -- THAT'S -- I'M 112 00:03:07,700 --> 00:03:08,600 SORRY TO HEAR THAT. 113 00:03:08,666 --> 00:03:10,666 >> John: YEAH, I BET YOU ARE! 114 00:03:10,733 --> 00:03:12,033 ALTHOUGH, I'M GUESSING YOU'RE 115 00:03:12,100 --> 00:03:13,833 LESS "SORRY TO HEAR THE 116 00:03:13,900 --> 00:03:15,266 HISTORICAL CONNOTATIONS OF THAT 117 00:03:15,333 --> 00:03:16,533 PHRASE" AND MORE, "SORRY TO HEAR 118 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,000 THAT PUBLICLY, ESPECIALLY IN 119 00:03:21,066 --> 00:03:21,733 FRONT OF ALL THESE FUCKING 120 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:22,433 CAMERAS." 121 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:23,566 BUT PERHAPS THE STUPIDEST 122 00:03:23,633 --> 00:03:24,266 ELECTION-RELATED STORY IS 123 00:03:24,333 --> 00:03:25,633 CURRENTLY TAKING PLACE IN 124 00:03:25,700 --> 00:03:26,500 ARIZONA, WHERE REPUBLICANS HAVE 125 00:03:26,566 --> 00:03:27,600 BEEN TRYING TO RELITIGATE THE 126 00:03:27,666 --> 00:03:28,366 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION BY 127 00:03:28,433 --> 00:03:29,233 RECOUNTING ALL THE BALLOTS 128 00:03:29,300 --> 00:03:30,000 IN THE STATE'S MOST POPULOUS 129 00:03:30,066 --> 00:03:30,866 COUNTY. 130 00:03:30,933 --> 00:03:31,866 >> THIS IS YET ANOTHER TALLY OF 131 00:03:31,933 --> 00:03:32,733 THE NEARLY 2.1 MILLION BALLOTS 132 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,133 IN MARICOPA COUNTY. 133 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,200 BUT THIS SO-CALLED AUDIT IS 134 00:03:35,266 --> 00:03:38,833 UNLIKE ANY OTHER. 135 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:40,100 THESE ARE BALLOT COUNTERS 136 00:03:40,166 --> 00:03:41,866 HEADING INTO A SHIFT. 137 00:03:41,933 --> 00:03:43,033 >> HAVE YOU EVER DONE ELECTION 138 00:03:43,100 --> 00:03:43,866 COUNTING BEFORE? 139 00:03:43,933 --> 00:03:45,633 >> NO. 140 00:03:45,700 --> 00:03:46,533 BUT IT'S -- THERE'S NOTHING TO 141 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:47,966 IT. 142 00:03:48,033 --> 00:03:51,300 IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS. 143 00:03:51,366 --> 00:03:52,266 >> John: YEAH, THAT'S NOT 144 00:03:52,333 --> 00:03:53,300 REASSURING! 145 00:03:53,366 --> 00:03:56,133 NORMALLY WHEN A GUY IN THOSE 146 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,433 SUNGLASSES SAYS, "THERE'S 147 00:03:57,500 --> 00:03:59,033 NOTHING TO IT, IT'S PRETTY 148 00:03:59,100 --> 00:04:00,800 OBVIOUS," HE'S SECONDS FROM 149 00:04:00,866 --> 00:04:04,600 REVERSING HIS BRAND NEW ATV 150 00:04:04,666 --> 00:04:05,300 THROUGH THE FRONT WINDOW OF A 151 00:04:05,366 --> 00:04:10,500 FUDDRUCKERS. 152 00:04:10,566 --> 00:04:11,466 THE AUDIT COMPANY IN CHARGE, 153 00:04:11,533 --> 00:04:12,466 CYBER NINJAS, IS OWNED BY AN 154 00:04:12,533 --> 00:04:13,200 ADVOCATE OF THE STOP THE STEAL 155 00:04:13,266 --> 00:04:13,933 MOVEMENT. 156 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:14,800 AND OBVIOUS BIAS ASIDE, 157 00:04:14,866 --> 00:04:15,733 THE PROCESS ALONE SEEMS SEEMS 158 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:16,666 PRETTY SLIPSHOD. 159 00:04:16,733 --> 00:04:17,866 ARIZONA'S SECRETARY OF STATE HAS 160 00:04:17,933 --> 00:04:19,233 EXPRESSED ALARM OVER ACCOUNTS OF 161 00:04:19,300 --> 00:04:19,866 BALLOTS BEING LEFT UNATTENDED, 162 00:04:19,933 --> 00:04:20,733 AND UNTRAINED WORKERS USING 163 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:21,800 DIFFERENT RULES TO COUNT 164 00:04:21,866 --> 00:04:26,066 BALLOTS. 165 00:04:26,133 --> 00:04:28,733 ALL OF WHICH THE AUDIT OFFICIAL 166 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:29,700 TWITTER ACCOUNT 167 00:04:29,766 --> 00:04:30,900 DISPUTED AS "BASELESS 168 00:04:30,966 --> 00:04:32,600 CLAIM-EES." 169 00:04:32,666 --> 00:04:34,233 AND IT'S GENUINELY INSANE TO 170 00:04:34,300 --> 00:04:35,466 SWOOP INTO A COUNTY THAT, 171 00:04:35,533 --> 00:04:37,000 REMEMBER, HAS ALREADY DONE 172 00:04:37,066 --> 00:04:38,600 MULTIPLE AUDITS OF ITS ELECTION 173 00:04:38,666 --> 00:04:40,000 COUNT, FINDING NO EVIDENCE OF 174 00:04:40,066 --> 00:04:41,466 FRAUD -- WITH THE ATTITUDE OF, 175 00:04:41,533 --> 00:04:42,800 "OKAY, BUT WHAT IF WE DO IT 176 00:04:42,866 --> 00:04:44,500 SHITTY THIS TIME?" 177 00:04:44,566 --> 00:04:46,233 AND IT GETS EVEN WORSE WHEN YOU 178 00:04:46,300 --> 00:04:50,866 CONSIDER THE SECRETARY OF STATE 179 00:04:50,933 --> 00:04:51,500 IS NOW RECEIVING DEATH THREATS. 180 00:04:51,566 --> 00:04:52,600 AND ALL OF THIS IS SO THEY CAN 181 00:04:52,666 --> 00:04:53,633 CHASE DOWN CRAZY CONSPIRACY 182 00:04:53,700 --> 00:04:55,066 THEORIES LIKE THIS ONE. 183 00:04:55,133 --> 00:04:56,333 >> THERE'S ACCUSATIONS THAT 184 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,000 40,000 BALLOTS WERE FLOWN IN. 185 00:04:58,066 --> 00:04:58,966 >> TO ARIZONA? 186 00:04:59,033 --> 00:04:59,766 >> TO ARIZONA. 187 00:04:59,833 --> 00:05:00,733 AND IT WAS STUFFED INTO THE BOX, 188 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,700 OKAY? 189 00:05:03,766 --> 00:05:05,233 AND IT CAME FROM THE SOUTHEAST 190 00:05:05,300 --> 00:05:07,833 PART OF THE WORLD, ASIA, OKAY? 191 00:05:07,900 --> 00:05:10,233 AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS TO 192 00:05:10,300 --> 00:05:11,400 FIND OUT IF THERE'S BAMBOO IN 193 00:05:11,466 --> 00:05:12,566 THE PAPER. 194 00:05:12,633 --> 00:05:13,200 >> AND WHY DO YOU CHECK FOR 195 00:05:13,266 --> 00:05:14,000 BAMBOO? 196 00:05:14,066 --> 00:05:16,133 >> BECAUSE THEY USE BAMBOO IN 197 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,000 THEIR PAPER PROCESSING. 198 00:05:17,066 --> 00:05:19,300 >> WHO'S THEY? 199 00:05:19,366 --> 00:05:19,900 >> PEOPLE IN SOUTHEAST ASIA. 200 00:05:19,966 --> 00:05:21,500 >> John: WOW. 201 00:05:21,566 --> 00:05:23,733 "SOUTHEAST ASIANS ATTEMPTED TO 202 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,300 SWAY THE 2020 ELECTION IN 203 00:05:25,366 --> 00:05:26,466 ARIZONA VIA BAMBOO BALLOTS" 204 00:05:26,533 --> 00:05:27,900 SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING YOUR 205 00:05:27,966 --> 00:05:29,333 DRUNKEST UNCLE WOULD SAY BEFORE 206 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:30,600 PASSING OUT AT HIS NIECE'S 207 00:05:30,666 --> 00:05:33,366 SIXTH BIRTHDAY PARTY. 208 00:05:33,433 --> 00:05:34,333 AND LOOK, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY 209 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:34,933 NONSENSE. 210 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:35,900 AND IN FAIRNESS TO THAT MAN, 211 00:05:35,966 --> 00:05:37,300 HE DOESN'T BELIEVE ANY OF IT. 212 00:05:37,366 --> 00:05:39,333 HE RUNS A NONPROFIT FOCUSED 213 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,266 ON ELECTION FAIRNESS, AND IS 214 00:05:41,333 --> 00:05:43,000 VOLUNTEERING, HOPING THIS 215 00:05:43,066 --> 00:05:44,266 PROCESS MANAGES TO DISPROVE MANY 216 00:05:44,333 --> 00:05:45,900 OF THESE CRAZY THEORIES. 217 00:05:45,966 --> 00:05:50,266 WHICH IS A NICE IDEA. 218 00:05:50,333 --> 00:05:51,633 THE PROBLEM IS, THOUGH, THE 219 00:05:51,700 --> 00:05:52,533 PEOPLE BEHIND THIS RECOUNT 220 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:53,200 AREN'T GOING 221 00:05:53,266 --> 00:05:54,233 TO BE CONVINCED, UNLESS THE 222 00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:55,500 RESULTS SWING THEIR WAY. 223 00:05:55,566 --> 00:05:56,400 AND WE KNOW THIS BECAUSE -- 224 00:05:56,466 --> 00:05:57,066 AGAIN -- THERE HAVE ALREADY BEEN 225 00:05:57,133 --> 00:05:58,166 MULTIPLE AUDITS CONDUCTED IN 226 00:05:58,233 --> 00:05:59,533 MARICOPA COUNTY AND THEY WEREN'T 227 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,233 CONVINCED BY THE RESULTS. 228 00:06:03,300 --> 00:06:04,200 AND THE THING IS, ARIZONA IS 229 00:06:04,266 --> 00:06:09,066 PLAYING A DANGEROUS GAME HERE. 230 00:06:09,133 --> 00:06:10,433 AND THINGS ARE PROBABLY ONLY GET 231 00:06:10,500 --> 00:06:11,066 MORE VOLATILE. 232 00:06:11,133 --> 00:06:11,733 PUT IT THIS WAY: ARIZONA'S 233 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:12,500 RECOUNT IS LIKE THAT GUY 234 00:06:12,566 --> 00:06:13,766 BRINGING A BEAR TO HIS EVENT, 235 00:06:13,833 --> 00:06:15,233 IN THAT IT'S CHAOTIC, 236 00:06:15,300 --> 00:06:16,366 IT'S PATHETICALLY DESPERATE, AND 237 00:06:16,433 --> 00:06:17,700 WE'LL ALL BE LUCKY IF NOBODY 238 00:06:17,766 --> 00:06:18,766 GETS SERIOUSLY HURT. 239 00:06:18,833 --> 00:06:19,733 AND NOW THIS. 240 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,166 ♪ ♪ 241 00:06:21,233 --> 00:06:23,133 >> Announcer: AND NOW... 242 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,666 HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY FROM THE 243 00:06:24,733 --> 00:06:27,066 DISAPPOINTING MEN OF LOCAL NEWS. 244 00:06:27,133 --> 00:06:28,200 >> I GOT A LOT OF MOMS, 245 00:06:28,266 --> 00:06:31,733 RELATED MOMS IN MY FAMILY. 246 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,100 MY WIFE IS A MOM, MY MOM MOM. 247 00:06:33,166 --> 00:06:34,966 >> YOUR MOM MOM. 248 00:06:35,033 --> 00:06:35,666 >> MY STEPMOM AND MY 249 00:06:35,733 --> 00:06:36,100 MOTHER-IN-LAW. 250 00:06:36,166 --> 00:06:36,500 SO. 251 00:06:36,566 --> 00:06:39,533 >> WOW. 252 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:40,933 >> YEAH, I GOT FOUR PEOPLE THAT 253 00:06:41,033 --> 00:06:43,533 I DISAPPOINT. 254 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,900 >> SHE HINTED YOU SHOULD KNOW 255 00:06:46,966 --> 00:06:47,566 WHAT TO GET HER FOR THIS 256 00:06:47,633 --> 00:06:48,133 MOTHER'S DAY. 257 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,233 DID YOU FIGURE THIS OUT? 258 00:06:49,300 --> 00:06:50,100 >> NO, I DIDN'T. 259 00:06:50,166 --> 00:06:50,800 ACTUALLY, I DID SUGGEST 260 00:06:50,866 --> 00:06:51,700 SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT SHE 261 00:06:51,766 --> 00:06:52,733 WANTED, AND THEN SHE TOLD ME, 262 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,533 NO, THAT WOULD BE A TERRIBLE 263 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:54,733 IDEA. 264 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:55,533 >> MOTHER'S DAY IS SUNDAY. 265 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:56,000 DO NOT FORGET. 266 00:06:56,066 --> 00:06:56,933 HIGH TEMPERATURES ARE 267 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,400 54 DEGREES. 268 00:06:58,466 --> 00:07:00,100 IF YOU HAVE ANY GOOD IDEAS FOR 269 00:07:00,166 --> 00:07:01,600 MY WIFE, LET ME KNOW. 270 00:07:01,666 --> 00:07:02,800 >> LAST YEAR, I GOT MY WIFE, 271 00:07:02,866 --> 00:07:03,633 LIKE, A $40 BOUQUET FOR 272 00:07:03,700 --> 00:07:04,800 MOTHER'S DAY. 273 00:07:04,866 --> 00:07:07,333 IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. 274 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:07,966 THIS YEAR, I AM BUYING FOR FOUR 275 00:07:08,033 --> 00:07:09,900 MOMS. 276 00:07:09,966 --> 00:07:15,100 SO $10 BOUQUETS ALL AROUND. 277 00:07:15,166 --> 00:07:15,933 >> DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE I 278 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:16,700 MADE. 279 00:07:16,766 --> 00:07:17,633 DON'T GIVE HER A WONDERBRA FOR 280 00:07:17,700 --> 00:07:18,200 MOTHER'S DAY. 281 00:07:18,266 --> 00:07:19,133 >> NATHAN, YOU GOT YOUR MOTHER 282 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:19,800 YOUR MOTHER'S DAY GIFT READY FOR 283 00:07:19,866 --> 00:07:21,066 MOM AND YOUR WIFE? 284 00:07:21,133 --> 00:07:22,133 >> YEAH. 285 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,533 ♪ ♪ 286 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:25,900 >> John: MOVING ON. 287 00:07:25,966 --> 00:07:26,666 OUR MAIN STORY TONIGHT CONCERNS 288 00:07:26,733 --> 00:07:27,333 HAIR. 289 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,333 SPECIFICALLY, BLACK HAIR. 290 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:30,066 THE SUBJECT THAT GAVE US 291 00:07:30,133 --> 00:07:31,033 THE SINGLE GREATEST 292 00:07:31,100 --> 00:07:32,300 "REAL HOUSEWIVES" ENTRANCE 293 00:07:32,366 --> 00:07:33,300 OF ALL TIME: 294 00:07:33,366 --> 00:07:34,866 WHEN KENYA MOORE CRASHED 295 00:07:34,933 --> 00:07:35,766 MARLO HAMPTON'S WIG LAUNCH WITH 296 00:07:35,833 --> 00:07:38,433 A MARCHING BAND TO PROMOTE HER 297 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:39,466 OWN LINE OF HAIR PRODUCTS, AND 298 00:07:39,533 --> 00:07:40,033 PORSHA WILLIAMS REACTED LIKE 299 00:07:40,100 --> 00:07:41,600 THIS. 300 00:07:41,666 --> 00:07:43,533 >> EVEN IF I DID AGREE WITH 301 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:44,733 KENYA AND THE FACT THAT PEOPLE'S 302 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,400 EDGES MATTER, THEY DON'T MATTER 303 00:07:46,466 --> 00:07:46,766 TODAY, BITCH. 304 00:07:46,833 --> 00:07:48,600 YOU ARE WRONG. 305 00:07:48,666 --> 00:07:50,800 THIS IS ABSOLUTELY INSANE, OKAY? 306 00:07:50,866 --> 00:07:52,533 SO TODAY, I DON'T AGREE. 307 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:53,766 BUT TOMORROW, YES, MY EDGES 308 00:07:53,833 --> 00:07:54,566 MATTER, AND I'LL BE USING THE 309 00:07:54,633 --> 00:07:54,800 PRODUCT. 310 00:07:54,866 --> 00:07:56,500 >> John: YOU KNOW WHAT? 311 00:07:56,566 --> 00:07:58,700 AS PER USUAL, PORSHA IS RIGHT 312 00:07:58,766 --> 00:07:59,933 ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS: 313 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,733 KENYA IS WRONG, EDGES DO MATTER 314 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,900 AND I, LIKE PORSHA, WILL BE 315 00:08:03,966 --> 00:08:05,133 USING THE PRODUCT TOMORROW. 316 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,500 MONDAY IS MY WASH DAY. 317 00:08:07,566 --> 00:08:08,533 AND LOOK, I REALIZE I'M NOT 318 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:09,900 THE IDEAL PERSON TO TALK ABOUT 319 00:08:09,966 --> 00:08:11,366 BLACK HAIR. 320 00:08:11,433 --> 00:08:13,300 I LOOK LIKE I STILL GO TO AN 321 00:08:13,366 --> 00:08:14,666 OLD TIMEY BARBER NAMED VALENTINO 322 00:08:14,733 --> 00:08:15,466 AND ASK FOR "THE TIDY 323 00:08:15,533 --> 00:08:17,400 LIZA MINNELLI." 324 00:08:17,466 --> 00:08:18,866 AND I ALSO KNOW THAT THE DANGER 325 00:08:18,933 --> 00:08:19,800 IS, WHEN A WHITE GUY ON TV 326 00:08:19,866 --> 00:08:21,300 STARTS CONFIDENTLY TALKING ABOUT 327 00:08:21,366 --> 00:08:23,666 BLACK HAIR, EVEN WITH THE BEST 328 00:08:23,733 --> 00:08:24,833 OF INTENTIONS, IT CAN END 329 00:08:24,900 --> 00:08:25,800 SOMETHING LIKE THIS: 330 00:08:25,866 --> 00:08:27,600 >> I DIDN'T WANT THE LITTLE 331 00:08:27,666 --> 00:08:28,466 TEA LIGHT TO OVERHEAT AND THEN 332 00:08:28,533 --> 00:08:29,466 ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE'VE GOT 333 00:08:29,533 --> 00:08:30,033 BREAKING NEWS HERE AT THE 334 00:08:30,100 --> 00:08:30,500 CHANNEL. 335 00:08:30,566 --> 00:08:31,566 >> I TOLD YOU IF THE SPRINKLER 336 00:08:31,633 --> 00:08:32,333 SYSTEMS COME ON, I'M DONE FOR 337 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:32,600 THE DAY. 338 00:08:32,666 --> 00:08:33,666 >> YEAH. 339 00:08:33,733 --> 00:08:34,766 YOU KNOW, THAT IS NOT -- 340 00:08:34,833 --> 00:08:35,400 >> SITTING UP HERE LOOKING LIKE 341 00:08:35,466 --> 00:08:35,633 A MOP. 342 00:08:35,700 --> 00:08:36,000 >> THAT IS NOT. 343 00:08:36,066 --> 00:08:36,266 YEAH. 344 00:08:36,333 --> 00:08:37,700 YOU KNOW WHAT? 345 00:08:37,766 --> 00:08:38,966 SPRINKLER SYSTEM AND A BEAUTIFUL 346 00:08:39,033 --> 00:08:40,266 WEAVE BECAUSE, THEY DO NOT GO. 347 00:08:40,333 --> 00:08:41,600 >> AHH! 348 00:08:41,666 --> 00:08:42,233 >> WHAT? 349 00:08:42,300 --> 00:08:43,500 YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL. 350 00:08:43,566 --> 00:08:44,533 YOU SAID IT WAS A WEAVE, 351 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:44,933 RIGHT? 352 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,400 >> IT'S NOT! 353 00:08:46,466 --> 00:08:47,800 OH, MY GOD! 354 00:08:47,866 --> 00:08:51,733 ♪ ♪ 355 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,400 >> John: WOW. 356 00:08:55,466 --> 00:08:56,666 THAT IS THE EXACT RIGHT REACTION 357 00:08:56,733 --> 00:08:57,300 TO ANNOUNCING YOUR BLACK 358 00:08:57,366 --> 00:08:58,833 COWORKER'S HAIR IS A WEAVE 359 00:08:58,900 --> 00:08:59,466 LIVE ON-AIR. 360 00:08:59,533 --> 00:09:00,066 GETTING UP FROM YOUR DESK AND 361 00:09:00,133 --> 00:09:00,800 JUST RUNNING AWAY. 362 00:09:00,866 --> 00:09:01,800 RUNNING FOREVER. 363 00:09:01,866 --> 00:09:02,800 RUNNING UNTIL YOUR LIFE FADES 364 00:09:02,866 --> 00:09:03,633 BEHIND YOU AND YOUR FEET TOUCH 365 00:09:03,700 --> 00:09:05,300 THE OCEAN. 366 00:09:05,366 --> 00:09:06,866 NOW YOU SHOULD KNOW, THOSE TWO 367 00:09:06,933 --> 00:09:08,533 COWORKERS SEEM TO HAVE GOTTEN 368 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,700 OVER THAT INCIDENT, PUTTING OUT 369 00:09:10,766 --> 00:09:12,000 A VIDEO TITLED "BLAINE AND LAILA 370 00:09:12,066 --> 00:09:13,700 DISCUSS HAIR WEAVE: A REBUTTAL," 371 00:09:13,766 --> 00:09:14,666 WHERE BLAINE SAYS HE'S LEARNED 372 00:09:14,733 --> 00:09:15,433 THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 373 00:09:15,500 --> 00:09:16,766 QUICK WEAVES, LACEFRONTS, AND 374 00:09:16,833 --> 00:09:18,366 SEW-INS BECAUSE OF THEIR 375 00:09:18,433 --> 00:09:18,666 FRIENDSHIP. 376 00:09:18,733 --> 00:09:20,100 BUT THE FACT IS, ON THE WHOLE, 377 00:09:20,166 --> 00:09:21,066 WHITE PEOPLE DON'T REALLY 378 00:09:21,133 --> 00:09:22,033 UNDERSTAND A LOT ABOUT 379 00:09:22,100 --> 00:09:23,333 BLACK HAIR. 380 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,433 AND BY THE WAY, IF YOUR FIRST 381 00:09:24,500 --> 00:09:25,433 REACTION TO THAT WAS, 382 00:09:25,500 --> 00:09:26,833 "HEY, NOT ALL WHITE PEOPLE," 383 00:09:26,900 --> 00:09:28,233 MAYBE LOOK INSIDE YOURSELF AND 384 00:09:28,300 --> 00:09:29,133 FIGURE OUT WHY THAT IS YOUR 385 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,466 RESPONSE TO THINGS. 386 00:09:30,533 --> 00:09:31,866 BUT IMPORTANTLY, THAT LACK OF 387 00:09:31,933 --> 00:09:33,400 UNDERSTANDING -- AND LACK OF 388 00:09:33,466 --> 00:09:34,833 INTEREST IN UNDERSTANDING -- CAN 389 00:09:34,900 --> 00:09:36,366 HAVE REAL CONSEQUENCES, FROM THE 390 00:09:36,433 --> 00:09:38,200 PERSONAL TO THE PROFESSIONAL, 391 00:09:38,266 --> 00:09:39,700 AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, EITHER 392 00:09:39,766 --> 00:09:40,666 FROM EXPERIENCE, OR FROM SEEING 393 00:09:40,733 --> 00:09:42,133 STORIES LIKE THIS: 394 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,666 >> CHASTITY JONES WAS TANGLED 395 00:09:43,733 --> 00:09:45,266 IN A NEARLY 10-YEAR LEGAL BATTLE 396 00:09:45,333 --> 00:09:47,800 AFTER SHE SAYS AN EMPLOYER TOOK 397 00:09:47,866 --> 00:09:49,833 BACK A JOB OFFER AT AN ALABAMA 398 00:09:49,900 --> 00:09:50,733 CALL CENTER BECAUSE SHE REFUSED 399 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,033 TO CUT HER HAIR. 400 00:09:52,100 --> 00:09:54,500 >> SHE SAID, "ARE THOSE 401 00:09:54,566 --> 00:09:58,300 DREADLOCKS IN YOUR HAIR?" 402 00:09:58,366 --> 00:10:00,800 AND I JUST LOOKED AT HER AND 403 00:10:00,866 --> 00:10:03,533 I WAS LIKE, "THESE?" 404 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,033 AND SHE SAID, "YES." 405 00:10:05,100 --> 00:10:08,400 I SAID, "YES, THEY ARE." 406 00:10:08,466 --> 00:10:09,966 SHE SAID, "WELL, WE CAN'T ACCEPT 407 00:10:10,033 --> 00:10:12,300 THAT HERE." 408 00:10:12,366 --> 00:10:14,166 >> John: CAN YOU IMAGINE TURNING 409 00:10:14,233 --> 00:10:15,933 SOMEONE AWAY WHO WANTS TO WORK 410 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,100 AT A CALL CENTER, THE UNIVERSE'S 411 00:10:17,166 --> 00:10:19,200 MOST THANKLESS JOB? 412 00:10:19,266 --> 00:10:20,233 A PLACE WHERE YOU ANSWER THE 413 00:10:20,300 --> 00:10:21,666 PHONE AND IMMEDIATELY, THERE'S 414 00:10:21,733 --> 00:10:23,766 AN ANGRY WOMAN SCREAMING AT YOU 415 00:10:23,833 --> 00:10:25,000 BECAUSE SOME OF THE BROCCOLI IN 416 00:10:25,066 --> 00:10:26,133 HER HELLO FRESH KIT "DIDN'T 417 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,200 SMELL RIGHT" AND NOW SHE WANTS 418 00:10:27,266 --> 00:10:28,866 TO SPEAK TO MR. FRESH. 419 00:10:28,933 --> 00:10:30,766 IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO 420 00:10:30,833 --> 00:10:31,933 DO THAT JOB, LET THEM! 421 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,433 WHAT'S ON THEIR HEAD HAS NOTHING 422 00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:34,600 TO DO WITH IT! 423 00:10:34,666 --> 00:10:35,900 THEY COULD SHOW UP TO WORK 424 00:10:35,966 --> 00:10:37,766 IN A WIG MADE OF LIVING FERRETS, 425 00:10:37,833 --> 00:10:38,800 AND THEY DESERVE NOT ONLY THAT 426 00:10:38,866 --> 00:10:39,600 POSITION, BUT DOUBLE WHATEVER 427 00:10:39,666 --> 00:10:42,066 YOU'RE PAYING THEM. 428 00:10:42,133 --> 00:10:46,066 THE POINT IS, BLACK HAIR IS 429 00:10:46,133 --> 00:10:47,033 AND HAIRSTYLES FREQUENTLY YET 430 00:10:47,100 --> 00:10:47,933 ANOTHER TARGET OF 431 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:48,766 DISCRIMINATION. 432 00:10:48,833 --> 00:10:50,300 SO TONIGHT, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT. 433 00:10:50,366 --> 00:10:51,633 AND LET'S START BY UNDERSTANDING 434 00:10:51,700 --> 00:10:54,566 WHY BLACK HAIR IS SO IMPORTANT. 435 00:10:54,633 --> 00:10:55,800 FOR CENTURIES, BLACK PEOPLE IN 436 00:10:55,866 --> 00:10:57,233 AFRICA INNOVATED WAYS TO PROTECT 437 00:10:57,300 --> 00:10:58,300 AND PROLONG THE HEALTH OF THEIR 438 00:10:58,366 --> 00:10:59,533 HAIR, AND THAT PRACTICE HAS 439 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:00,700 CONTINUED AND EVOLVED INTO 440 00:11:00,766 --> 00:11:02,266 BEAUTIFUL AND DISTINCT 441 00:11:02,333 --> 00:11:03,100 HAIRSTYLES, WITH A DEEP 442 00:11:03,166 --> 00:11:04,300 CONNECTION TO CULTURE AND 443 00:11:04,366 --> 00:11:05,566 HERITAGE. 444 00:11:05,633 --> 00:11:07,400 AND FOR AS LONG AS THAT HAS 445 00:11:07,466 --> 00:11:08,500 HAPPENED, WHITE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN 446 00:11:08,566 --> 00:11:10,000 UNABLE TO HANDLE IT. 447 00:11:10,066 --> 00:11:11,800 ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS 448 00:11:11,866 --> 00:11:13,433 SLAVE TRADERS WOULD DO WAS 449 00:11:13,500 --> 00:11:14,600 SHAVE THE HEADS OF ENSLAVED 450 00:11:14,666 --> 00:11:15,433 PEOPLE, WHICH ERASED THEIR 451 00:11:15,500 --> 00:11:16,500 CULTURAL IDENTITY. 452 00:11:16,566 --> 00:11:19,500 AND BLACK HAIR HAS HISTORICALLY 453 00:11:19,566 --> 00:11:20,100 BEEN DESCRIBED IN DEHUMANIZING 454 00:11:20,166 --> 00:11:21,566 FASHION, WITH RACIAL TYPOLOGIST 455 00:11:21,633 --> 00:11:23,033 CHARLES HAMILTON SMITH 456 00:11:23,100 --> 00:11:24,633 DESCRIBING HIS HIERARCHY OF 457 00:11:24,700 --> 00:11:26,600 THREE MAIN TYPES OF PEOPLE: 458 00:11:26,666 --> 00:11:27,766 THE BEADED CAUCASIAN TYPE, THE 459 00:11:27,833 --> 00:11:29,166 BEARDLESS MONGOLIC TYPE, AND THE 460 00:11:29,233 --> 00:11:32,000 "WOOLLY-HAIRED TROPICAL TYPE." 461 00:11:32,066 --> 00:11:33,866 AND THE ONLY TIME "WOOLLY-HAIRED 462 00:11:33,933 --> 00:11:36,400 TROPICAL" IS AN ACCEPTABLE TERM 463 00:11:36,466 --> 00:11:36,966 TO USE IS IF YOU'RE TALKING 464 00:11:37,033 --> 00:11:38,200 ABOUT MADAGASCAR'S 465 00:11:38,266 --> 00:11:39,333 "WOOLLY LEMUR," A TROPICAL 466 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,500 LITTLE SWEETIE WHO ALWAYS LOOKS 467 00:11:40,566 --> 00:11:41,100 LIKE HE JUST ACCIDENTALLY 468 00:11:41,166 --> 00:11:41,966 REPLIED ALL. 469 00:11:42,033 --> 00:11:43,466 OTHER THAN THAT, 470 00:11:43,533 --> 00:11:45,333 IT'S OFF LIMITS. 471 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:46,933 BY THE LATE NINETEENTH CENTURY, 472 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,033 BEAUTY COMPANIES WERE 473 00:11:48,100 --> 00:11:49,233 ADVERTISING PRODUCTS LIKE 474 00:11:49,300 --> 00:11:50,566 SKIN LIGHTENERS AND 475 00:11:50,633 --> 00:11:52,033 HAIR STRAIGHTENERS, REINFORCING 476 00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:53,933 THE IDEA THAT BLACK HAIR WAS 477 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,500 DIRTY AND UNKEMPT, AND THE 478 00:11:55,566 --> 00:11:56,133 CLOSER YOUR APPEARANCE WAS TO 479 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,566 WHITENESS, THE BETTER. 480 00:11:58,633 --> 00:11:59,700 LIKE IN THIS AD FROM 1900 FOR A 481 00:11:59,766 --> 00:12:01,200 MAGNETIC COMB THAT PROMISED TO 482 00:12:01,266 --> 00:12:03,000 DESTROY THE "HAIR GERMS" ON YOUR 483 00:12:03,066 --> 00:12:04,166 HEAD AND TAKE YOU FROM A 484 00:12:04,233 --> 00:12:05,166 CURLY-HAIRED BLACK PERSON TO 485 00:12:05,233 --> 00:12:07,400 A STRAIGHT-HAIRED WHITE ONE. 486 00:12:07,466 --> 00:12:08,533 AND THE DESIRE TO MAKE BLACK 487 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,600 HAIR SMOOTHER AND STRAIGHTER 488 00:12:10,666 --> 00:12:12,000 WAS SO STRONG, JUST LISTEN TO 489 00:12:12,066 --> 00:12:13,933 THE SHEER DELIGHT THIS BRITISH 490 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,033 NEWSREEL TAKES IN SHOWING THE 491 00:12:15,100 --> 00:12:16,233 PROCESS. 492 00:12:16,300 --> 00:12:18,466 >> COMBS COME INTO PLAY. 493 00:12:18,533 --> 00:12:19,733 KEPT CONSTANTLY HEATED, THEY ARE 494 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:20,866 PASSED THROUGH EACH SECTION OF 495 00:12:20,933 --> 00:12:22,433 THE HAIR UNTIL ALL TRACE OF 496 00:12:22,500 --> 00:12:23,600 KINKINESS DISAPPEARS. 497 00:12:23,666 --> 00:12:26,300 IT'S NOT ALL PLAIN SAILING 498 00:12:26,366 --> 00:12:26,966 NATURALLY, AND IT'S NOT QUITE 499 00:12:27,033 --> 00:12:27,733 A PERMANENT PERMANENT, IF YOU 500 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,566 FOLLOW ME. 501 00:12:29,633 --> 00:12:31,366 IF THE HAIR GETS REALLY WET OR 502 00:12:31,433 --> 00:12:32,533 STEAMED UP, IT UNSTRAIGHTENS 503 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,566 ITSELF AND BACK COME THE KINKS. 504 00:12:34,633 --> 00:12:35,766 >> John: OH, NOO. 505 00:12:35,833 --> 00:12:39,766 HEARING THAT BEAUTY STANDARD 506 00:12:39,833 --> 00:12:41,933 REINFORCED IN THAT PARTICULAR 507 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,433 VOICE IS DEFINITELY A SIGN THAT 508 00:12:45,500 --> 00:12:46,400 SOMETHING HAS GONE TERRIBLY 509 00:12:46,466 --> 00:12:46,766 WRONG. 510 00:12:46,833 --> 00:12:47,633 AND I KNOW FOR SOME VIEWERS, 511 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:48,766 PASSING A HOT METAL COMB THROUGH 512 00:12:48,833 --> 00:12:49,666 THE HAIR TO STRAIGHTEN IT MIGHT 513 00:12:49,733 --> 00:12:50,533 LOOK LIKE A CURIO FROM THE 514 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:51,300 DISTANT PAST. 515 00:12:51,366 --> 00:12:52,633 BUT I GUARANTEE SOME OF YOU WERE 516 00:12:52,700 --> 00:12:54,400 JUST TRANSPORTED BACK TO BEING 517 00:12:54,466 --> 00:12:55,766 8-YEARS-OLD SITTING ON A HIGH 518 00:12:55,833 --> 00:12:57,333 STOOL IN THE KITCHEN AT 6:00 AM 519 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,566 ON SCHOOL PICTURE DAY, HOLDING 520 00:12:58,633 --> 00:12:59,566 YOUR EARS DOWN WHILE YOUR MOM OR 521 00:12:59,633 --> 00:13:00,566 GRANDMA GETS THE HOT COMB 522 00:13:00,633 --> 00:13:02,266 UNCOMFORTABLY CLOSE TO YOUR 523 00:13:02,333 --> 00:13:02,466 SCALP. 524 00:13:02,533 --> 00:13:03,466 FOR SOME, THE SMELL OF BURNING 525 00:13:03,533 --> 00:13:04,333 HAIR IS A SIGN THAT SOMETHING'S 526 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:04,733 WRONG. 527 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,433 BUT FOR OTHERS, IT BRINGS BACK 528 00:13:07,500 --> 00:13:08,866 MEMORIES. 529 00:13:08,933 --> 00:13:10,100 BY THE 1960s AND '70s, THOUGH, 530 00:13:10,166 --> 00:13:11,166 THE EMBRACE OF BLACK HAIR'S 531 00:13:11,233 --> 00:13:13,133 NATURAL TEXTURE AND CULTURALLY 532 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,333 SIGNIFICANT STYLES HAD BECOME 533 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:15,500 A RADICAL ACT OF SELF ACCEPTANCE 534 00:13:15,566 --> 00:13:17,533 AND POLITICAL POWER. 535 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:18,766 >> WHO TAUGHT YOU TO HATE 536 00:13:18,833 --> 00:13:21,333 THE TEXTURE OF YOUR HAIR? 537 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,000 WHO TAUGHT YOU TO HATE THE COLOR 538 00:13:23,066 --> 00:13:24,466 OF YOUR SKIN? 539 00:13:24,533 --> 00:13:26,800 TO SUCH EXTENT THAT YOU BLEACH, 540 00:13:26,866 --> 00:13:29,866 TO GET LIKE THE WHITE MAN? 541 00:13:29,933 --> 00:13:31,200 >> John: UH, WHITE PEOPLE. 542 00:13:31,266 --> 00:13:31,766 THE ANSWER IS WHITE PEOPLE. 543 00:13:31,833 --> 00:13:32,966 THAT QUESTION ANSWERS ITSELF. 544 00:13:33,033 --> 00:13:34,533 JUST LIKE THE ANSWER TO THE 545 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:35,500 QUESTIONS: WHO LETS THEIR DOGS 546 00:13:35,566 --> 00:13:36,533 KISS THEM IN THE MOUTH? 547 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:37,533 WHO WANTS TO PICK APPLES 548 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:38,433 FOR FUN? 549 00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:39,333 AND WHO'S COMING TO DINNER ON 550 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:40,633 INA GARTEN'S SHOW? 551 00:13:40,700 --> 00:13:43,233 THE ANSWER IS, WHITE PEOPLE. 552 00:13:43,300 --> 00:13:44,100 BUT DESPITE THE NATURAL HAIR 553 00:13:44,166 --> 00:13:45,700 MOVEMENT, WHITE PEOPLE'S 554 00:13:45,766 --> 00:13:46,766 DISCOMFORT AND IGNORANCE AROUND 555 00:13:46,833 --> 00:13:47,666 BLACK HAIR HAS VERY MUCH 556 00:13:47,733 --> 00:13:49,100 REMAINED. 557 00:13:49,166 --> 00:13:51,100 ONE STUDY FOUND BLACK WOMEN WERE 558 00:13:51,166 --> 00:13:52,500 80% MORE LIKELY TO AGREE WITH 559 00:13:52,566 --> 00:13:54,166 THE STATEMENT, "I HAVE TO CHANGE 560 00:13:54,233 --> 00:13:55,766 MY HAIR FROM ITS NATURAL STATE 561 00:13:55,833 --> 00:13:57,200 TO FIT IN AT THE OFFICE," AND 562 00:13:57,266 --> 00:13:58,833 ANOTHER FOUND THAT BLACK WOMEN 563 00:13:58,900 --> 00:13:59,933 WITH NATURAL HAIRSTYLES WERE 564 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,100 PERCEIVED TO BE LESS 565 00:14:01,166 --> 00:14:02,566 PROFESSIONAL, LESS COMPETENT, 566 00:14:02,633 --> 00:14:03,833 AND LESS LIKELY TO BE 567 00:14:03,900 --> 00:14:05,200 RECOMMENDED FOR A JOB INTERVIEW. 568 00:14:05,266 --> 00:14:07,333 THE POINT IS, THE WAY YOUR HAIR 569 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,366 IS PERCEIVED -- AND THEREFORE, 570 00:14:09,433 --> 00:14:10,966 THE WAY YOU ARE PERCEIVED -- CAN 571 00:14:11,033 --> 00:14:12,666 MANIFEST IN ALL SORTS OF WAYS. 572 00:14:12,733 --> 00:14:15,100 >> I KNOW THE ANXIETY THAT 573 00:14:15,166 --> 00:14:16,600 PEOPLE HAVE AFTER GETTING THEIR 574 00:14:16,666 --> 00:14:17,566 HAIR DONE THEN, LIKE, "OKAY, 575 00:14:17,633 --> 00:14:18,333 WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN I GO 576 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:19,366 TO WORK? 577 00:14:19,433 --> 00:14:20,333 ARE THEY GONNA SAY ANYTHING?" 578 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:21,633 >> YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIG THING 579 00:14:21,700 --> 00:14:22,966 IN THE WORKPLACE. 580 00:14:23,033 --> 00:14:24,366 A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO 581 00:14:24,433 --> 00:14:25,333 DRAW ATTENTION TO THEIR SELF 582 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:26,766 SO THEY TRY TO DO THE NORM. 583 00:14:26,833 --> 00:14:27,766 >> A LOT OF THE TIME, I WOULD 584 00:14:27,833 --> 00:14:29,300 ALWAYS GET PEOPLE JUST, LIKE, 585 00:14:29,366 --> 00:14:31,200 SAYING HOW, LIKE, SOFT MY HAIR 586 00:14:31,266 --> 00:14:31,733 IS AND EVERYTHING AND LIKE 587 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:32,166 WANTING TO TOUCH IT. 588 00:14:32,233 --> 00:14:33,000 THAT'S, LIKE, ALWAYS A BIG 589 00:14:33,066 --> 00:14:33,366 THING. 590 00:14:33,433 --> 00:14:34,033 >> NO, YOU CAN'T TOUCH IT. 591 00:14:34,100 --> 00:14:34,733 >> AND, LIKE, ADULTS DOING THAT 592 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:35,700 TOO, I'M LIKE -- 593 00:14:35,766 --> 00:14:36,600 >> IT'S GROWN WOMEN. 594 00:14:36,666 --> 00:14:37,633 >> YOU CAN'T TOUCH IT! 595 00:14:37,700 --> 00:14:38,833 >> YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T TOUCH 596 00:14:38,900 --> 00:14:39,733 NO BLACK WOMEN'S HAIR, YOU 597 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:40,700 ALREADY KNOW THAT, LIKE -- 598 00:14:40,766 --> 00:14:41,633 >> IT MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE 599 00:14:41,700 --> 00:14:45,333 IN A ZOO. 600 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,000 >> John: LOOK, YOU OBVIOUSLY 601 00:14:47,066 --> 00:14:48,166 SHOULDN'T BE MADE TO FEEL LIKE 602 00:14:48,233 --> 00:14:49,500 YOU'RE IN A ZOO, EVER, FOR ANY 603 00:14:49,566 --> 00:14:49,733 REASON. 604 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:50,666 ALSO -- AND IT'S NOT THE POINT 605 00:14:50,733 --> 00:14:51,600 -- BUT IF YOU'RE TOUCHING 606 00:14:51,666 --> 00:14:52,966 ANIMALS AT THE ZOO, YOU'RE DOING 607 00:14:53,033 --> 00:14:54,533 THE ZOO WRONG. 608 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:55,500 DON'T BE STRESSING THE OTTERS 609 00:14:55,566 --> 00:14:56,666 OUT BY SHOUTING UNWANTED 610 00:14:56,733 --> 00:14:57,566 QUESTIONS AND TRYING TO SNEAK 611 00:14:57,633 --> 00:14:58,233 YOUR HANDS INTO THE CAGES TO 612 00:14:58,300 --> 00:14:59,133 COP A FEEL. 613 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:00,600 YES, THE BALD EAGLE'S FEATHERS 614 00:15:00,666 --> 00:15:02,000 ARE LAID, BUT DON'T SHOUT 615 00:15:02,066 --> 00:15:02,866 "YAAAS, QWEEN" AND TRY TO PET 616 00:15:02,933 --> 00:15:03,733 HER. 617 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:04,366 UNLIKE YOUR COWORKERS, 618 00:15:04,433 --> 00:15:05,566 THE EAGLE WILL SNAP YOUR 619 00:15:05,633 --> 00:15:09,000 FUCKING FINGERS OFF. 620 00:15:09,066 --> 00:15:10,133 AND YOU WILL HAVE IT COMING. 621 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:10,900 UNFORTUNATELY, THOUGH, 622 00:15:10,966 --> 00:15:12,133 WHITE PEOPLE'S BIASES AND 623 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,866 IGNORANCE ARE OFTEN JUST LAYING 624 00:15:13,933 --> 00:15:14,800 IN WAIT FOR THE RIGHT MOMENT 625 00:15:14,866 --> 00:15:15,966 TO STRIKE. 626 00:15:16,033 --> 00:15:17,566 >> JONATHON SUTHERLAND IS THE 627 00:15:17,633 --> 00:15:18,933 PENN STATE FOOTBALL CAPTAIN AND 628 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,466 A DEAN'S LIST STUDENT. 629 00:15:20,533 --> 00:15:22,100 BUT WHAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING 630 00:15:22,166 --> 00:15:23,466 ABOUT TONIGHT IS HIS HAIR. 631 00:15:23,533 --> 00:15:26,166 THAT'S THANKS TO THIS LETTER. 632 00:15:26,233 --> 00:15:27,366 THE AUTHOR IS A PROCLAIMED 633 00:15:27,433 --> 00:15:28,600 ALUMNUS FROM DECADES AGO NAMED 634 00:15:28,666 --> 00:15:30,066 DAVID PETERSEN. 635 00:15:30,133 --> 00:15:31,233 HE CALLS SUTHERLAND'S HAIR 636 00:15:31,300 --> 00:15:36,333 "AWFUL." 637 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:37,000 STATING HIS LOCS ARE 638 00:15:37,066 --> 00:15:38,033 "DISGUSTING AND ARE CERTAINLY 639 00:15:38,100 --> 00:15:41,866 NOT ATTRACTIVE." 640 00:15:41,933 --> 00:15:42,400 HE ALSO WRITES, 641 00:15:42,466 --> 00:15:43,000 "WE WOULD WELCOME THE 642 00:15:43,066 --> 00:15:44,233 REAPPEARANCE OF DRESS CODES 643 00:15:44,300 --> 00:15:45,400 FOR ATHLETES." 644 00:15:45,466 --> 00:15:46,966 >> John: EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT'S 645 00:15:47,033 --> 00:15:47,233 UPSETTING. 646 00:15:47,300 --> 00:15:48,166 FROM THE RACIST ATTITUDE, 647 00:15:48,233 --> 00:15:49,233 TO THE HURTFUL LANGUAGE, 648 00:15:49,300 --> 00:15:50,433 TO THE FACT THAT HE CHOSE 649 00:15:50,500 --> 00:15:51,300 TO EXPRESS MORAL OUTRAGE OVER 650 00:15:51,366 --> 00:15:51,900 SOMETHING IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL, 651 00:15:51,966 --> 00:15:52,800 BUT IT'S NOT THAT THE NCAA MAKES 652 00:15:52,866 --> 00:15:53,966 MILLIONS OFF STUDENT ATHLETES, 653 00:15:54,033 --> 00:15:55,000 INSTEAD, IT'S "I CAN SEE YOUR 654 00:15:55,066 --> 00:15:56,700 HAIR OUTSIDE YOUR HELMET." 655 00:15:56,766 --> 00:15:58,766 THAT MAN LATER EXPLAINED HE ONLY 656 00:15:58,833 --> 00:15:59,866 WROTE THE LETTER BECAUSE 657 00:15:59,933 --> 00:16:02,366 "I WAS JUST DISGRUNTLED ABOUT 658 00:16:02,433 --> 00:16:03,000 SOME OF THE HAIRDOS THAT WE'RE 659 00:16:03,066 --> 00:16:03,833 SEEING. 660 00:16:03,900 --> 00:16:05,033 YOU THINK OF PENN STATE AS A 661 00:16:05,100 --> 00:16:07,533 BUNCH OF CLEAN-CUT GUYS." 662 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,266 AND "YOU THINK OF PENN STATE 663 00:16:09,333 --> 00:16:10,166 AS" IS JUST NOT A SENTENCE THAT 664 00:16:10,233 --> 00:16:10,866 ENDS WELL UNDER 665 00:16:10,933 --> 00:16:12,300 ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. 666 00:16:12,366 --> 00:16:15,366 ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU REALIZE, 667 00:16:15,433 --> 00:16:18,333 THAT MAN ACTUALLY GOT A DEGREE 668 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:18,900 FROM PENN STATE IN 1966, THE 669 00:16:18,966 --> 00:16:20,133 SAME YEAR AS JERRY SANDUSKY. 670 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,233 WHO SOMEHOW -- DESPITE HIS 671 00:16:21,300 --> 00:16:22,166 SHORT HAIR -- TURNED OUT TO BE 672 00:16:22,233 --> 00:16:23,766 A HEINOUS SEX CRIMINAL. 673 00:16:23,833 --> 00:16:25,733 I KNOW IT SOUNDS RIDICULOUS, 674 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,033 BUT IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE HAIRCUT 675 00:16:27,100 --> 00:16:31,333 DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER. 676 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:32,333 AND IT STARTS WAY BEFORE 677 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:32,733 COLLEGE. 678 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:33,700 YOU MAY REMEMBER THE TERRIBLE 679 00:16:33,766 --> 00:16:34,633 CASE OF HIGH SCHOOL WRESTLER 680 00:16:34,700 --> 00:16:35,266 ANDREW JOHNSON, WHO WAS 681 00:16:35,333 --> 00:16:36,700 BASICALLY FORCED TO CUT HIS LOCS 682 00:16:36,766 --> 00:16:38,133 OFF OR FORFEIT AN IMPORTANT 683 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,866 WRESTLING MATCH BY A REFEREE. 684 00:16:39,933 --> 00:16:41,166 THAT CASE MADE NATIONAL NEWS, 685 00:16:41,233 --> 00:16:42,633 BUT THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF OTHERS 686 00:16:42,700 --> 00:16:43,833 THAT DON'T. 687 00:16:43,900 --> 00:16:45,100 FROM THE SCHOOL IN KENTUCKY THAT 688 00:16:45,166 --> 00:16:46,500 ONCE BANNED -- AND I QUOTE -- 689 00:16:46,566 --> 00:16:48,133 "DREADLOCKS AND CORN ROLLS," 690 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,766 TO TWIN SISTERS IN MASSACHUSETTS 691 00:16:49,833 --> 00:16:50,933 THAT RECEIVED HOURS OF DETENTION 692 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,633 BECAUSE OF THEIR BRAIDED HAIR, 693 00:16:52,700 --> 00:16:53,633 TO THIS DAYCARE IN SUBURBAN 694 00:16:53,700 --> 00:16:54,833 CHICAGO. 695 00:16:54,900 --> 00:16:56,666 >> MOM MAY LIKE THE SMELL, 696 00:16:56,733 --> 00:16:57,966 BUT ACCORDING TO THIS NOTE 697 00:16:58,033 --> 00:16:59,633 TIONNA NORRIS POSTED ON HER 698 00:16:59,700 --> 00:17:00,800 FACEBOOK PAGE, 699 00:17:00,866 --> 00:17:02,333 AMIA'S TEACHER DIDN'T LIKE IT, 700 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,033 BASICALLY SAYING... 701 00:17:03,100 --> 00:17:03,966 >> YOUR CHILD STINKS. 702 00:17:04,033 --> 00:17:06,366 DON'T PUT THE COCONUT OIL 703 00:17:06,433 --> 00:17:06,666 IN HER HAIR. 704 00:17:06,733 --> 00:17:08,533 THE KIDS WERE TEASING HER. 705 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,333 >> NORRIS SAYS AMIA WAS THE ONLY 706 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:11,533 BLACK CHILD IN HER PRESCHOOL 707 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,566 CLASS AT THE RAGGEDY ANNE 708 00:17:13,633 --> 00:17:14,900 LEARNING CENTER IN ELMHURST. 709 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,833 >> I WAS JUST HURT FOR MY CHILD. 710 00:17:16,900 --> 00:17:18,333 >> ESPECIALLY AFTER NORRIS SAYS 711 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:19,400 SHE MET WITH THE TEACHER AND 712 00:17:19,466 --> 00:17:20,466 SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR AND LEARNED 713 00:17:20,533 --> 00:17:21,366 THE CHILDREN IN THE CLASS NEVER 714 00:17:21,433 --> 00:17:22,766 COMPLAINED. 715 00:17:22,833 --> 00:17:24,433 IT WAS JUST THE TEACHER WHO 716 00:17:24,500 --> 00:17:26,300 DIDN'T LIKE THE SMELL. 717 00:17:26,366 --> 00:17:27,733 WE CALLED THE SCHOOL AND LEFT 718 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:28,900 SEVERAL MESSAGES. 719 00:17:28,966 --> 00:17:31,100 WE VISITED AND GOT THIS. 720 00:17:31,166 --> 00:17:32,200 >> HI, I'M DOROTHY TUCKER FROM 721 00:17:32,266 --> 00:17:32,766 CHANNEL 2 NEWS. 722 00:17:32,833 --> 00:17:34,733 >> GOODBYE. 723 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:35,866 >> John: WOW. 724 00:17:35,933 --> 00:17:37,466 THAT FEELS LIKE A PERFECTLY 725 00:17:37,533 --> 00:17:38,800 STAGED FIVE-SECOND PLAY 726 00:17:38,866 --> 00:17:39,866 ENCAPSULATING THE HISTORY OF 727 00:17:39,933 --> 00:17:41,466 RACE RELATIONS IN AMERICA: 728 00:17:41,533 --> 00:17:43,066 A BLACK PERSON TRYING TO DISCUSS 729 00:17:43,133 --> 00:17:44,533 RACIAL INEQUALITY WITH A WHITE 730 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:45,300 PERSON, WHO THEN IMMEDIATELY 731 00:17:45,366 --> 00:17:48,566 SAYS, "GOODBYE!" 732 00:17:48,633 --> 00:17:49,700 SO BLACK PEOPLE, FROM AN EARLY 733 00:17:49,766 --> 00:17:51,166 AGE, ARE OFTEN TOLD THEIR HAIR 734 00:17:51,233 --> 00:17:52,066 IS UNATTRACTIVE. 735 00:17:52,133 --> 00:17:55,533 AND NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED. 736 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:56,700 AND THAT IS ALREADY JUST... 737 00:17:56,766 --> 00:17:57,800 A LOT, BEFORE YOU EVEN START 738 00:17:57,866 --> 00:17:58,800 GETTING INTO ALL THE WAYS THAT 739 00:17:58,866 --> 00:18:00,300 SOCIETY MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO 740 00:18:00,366 --> 00:18:01,033 NAVIGATE THE WORLD BECAUSE OF 741 00:18:01,100 --> 00:18:01,933 YOUR HAIR. 742 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,666 EVEN JUST BUYING HAIR PRODUCTS 743 00:18:03,733 --> 00:18:05,566 CAN BE AN UNNECESSARY CHALLENGE, 744 00:18:05,633 --> 00:18:06,933 WITH BLACK HAIR PRODUCTS 745 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,633 ROUTINELY LOCKED IN A CASE WHERE 746 00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:10,400 SOMEONE HAS TO COME WITH A KEY 747 00:18:10,466 --> 00:18:11,966 TO GET IT FOR YOU -- OR MAYBE 748 00:18:12,033 --> 00:18:13,666 EVEN "WALK IT TO THE REGISTER" 749 00:18:13,733 --> 00:18:15,166 -- IN THE SAME AISLE WHERE 750 00:18:15,233 --> 00:18:16,233 PRODUCTS FOR WHITE PEOPLE THAT 751 00:18:16,300 --> 00:18:19,666 COST JUST AS MUCH OR MORE ARE 752 00:18:19,733 --> 00:18:21,000 SIMPLY SITTING OUT ON THE 753 00:18:21,066 --> 00:18:21,233 SHELVES. 754 00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:22,000 AND THE EXPLANATION FOR THAT IS 755 00:18:22,066 --> 00:18:23,133 NEVER GREAT. 756 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,166 >> SO I WENT AND FOUND THE 757 00:18:25,233 --> 00:18:26,733 MANAGER AND I SAID, "I'M WAITING 758 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,966 FOR THE KEY FOR SHAMPOO AND 759 00:18:29,033 --> 00:18:30,566 CONDITIONER." 760 00:18:30,633 --> 00:18:32,200 I SAID, "BUT LET ME ASK YOU, 761 00:18:32,266 --> 00:18:33,666 WHY ARE THE BLACK HAIR PRODUCTS 762 00:18:33,733 --> 00:18:35,566 LOCKED UP AND NOT THE WHITE HAIR 763 00:18:35,633 --> 00:18:38,533 PRODUCTS?" 764 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:39,666 HE SAID, "UMM," AND ANOTHER 765 00:18:39,733 --> 00:18:41,066 ASSOCIATE SAID, "WELL, PEOPLE 766 00:18:41,133 --> 00:18:41,800 HAVE BEEN STEALING." 767 00:18:41,866 --> 00:18:43,366 >> John: YEAH. 768 00:18:43,433 --> 00:18:44,800 NOW THAT WALMART CLAIMED IT WAS 769 00:18:44,866 --> 00:18:45,600 BASED ON DATA OF THEFT 770 00:18:45,666 --> 00:18:46,833 IN THE STORE. 771 00:18:46,900 --> 00:18:48,633 BUT WHEN A TOWN COUNCIL MEMBER 772 00:18:48,700 --> 00:18:49,933 ASKED TO SEE THAT DATA, THE 773 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,466 STORE INSTRUCTED HER TO CALL 774 00:18:51,533 --> 00:18:53,433 "1-800-WALMART." 775 00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:55,500 AND JUST OUT OF INTEREST, 776 00:18:55,566 --> 00:18:56,833 ON A TOUCHTONE PHONE, WHICH 777 00:18:56,900 --> 00:18:57,633 BUTTON DO YOU PRESS TO HEAR THE 778 00:18:57,700 --> 00:18:59,233 BULLSHIT DATA USED TO JUSTIFY 779 00:18:59,300 --> 00:19:00,800 LOCKING UP $4 ECO STYLER GEL? 780 00:19:00,866 --> 00:19:01,933 IS THAT, LIKE, NUMBER 7 OR DO 781 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,200 YOU HAVE TO ASK FOR AN ASSOCIATE 782 00:19:03,266 --> 00:19:04,966 FIRST? 783 00:19:05,033 --> 00:19:06,800 SO IT'S ALREADY HARD ENOUGH TO 784 00:19:06,866 --> 00:19:07,500 GET PRODUCTS TO DO YOUR HAIR AT 785 00:19:07,566 --> 00:19:09,066 HOME. 786 00:19:09,133 --> 00:19:10,900 BUT FINDING A QUALIFIED STYLIST 787 00:19:10,966 --> 00:19:12,066 CAN BE EVEN HARDER. 788 00:19:12,133 --> 00:19:15,066 THE COSMETOLOGY INDUSTRY MOSTLY 789 00:19:15,133 --> 00:19:15,933 REVOLVES AROUND, AND TRAINS FOR, 790 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,233 CARING FOR STRAIGHT, 791 00:19:17,300 --> 00:19:20,366 NON-TEXTURED HAIR. 792 00:19:20,433 --> 00:19:22,466 SO THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT 793 00:19:22,533 --> 00:19:23,100 A STYLIST IN YOUR AREA CAN WORK 794 00:19:23,166 --> 00:19:25,200 WITH BLACK HAIR -- JUST WATCH 795 00:19:25,266 --> 00:19:26,733 ONE TIKTOKER CALL 23 SALONS IN 796 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:27,666 THEIR HOMETOWN, AND GET NOTHING 797 00:19:27,733 --> 00:19:29,900 BUT RESPONSES LIKE THESE. 798 00:19:29,966 --> 00:19:31,333 >> I WAS WONDERING IF YOU GUYS 799 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:32,833 WORK WITH AFRICAN-AMERICAN HAIR, 800 00:19:32,900 --> 00:19:35,233 SPECIFICALLY 4C TYPE? 801 00:19:35,300 --> 00:19:37,666 >> UH, WE DO NOT. 802 00:19:37,733 --> 00:19:38,800 NONE OF THE GIRLS HERE DO, NO. 803 00:19:38,866 --> 00:19:39,733 >> UM, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE 804 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,000 A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. 805 00:19:43,066 --> 00:19:44,433 SO I WOULD SAY YOU'RE PROBABLY 806 00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:46,500 BETTER TO KEEP LOOKING AROUND. 807 00:19:46,566 --> 00:19:47,200 >> I WAS WONDERING IF YOU GUYS 808 00:19:47,266 --> 00:19:48,066 WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH 809 00:19:48,133 --> 00:19:49,366 AFRICAN-AMERICAN HAIR, 810 00:19:49,433 --> 00:19:53,000 SPECIFICALLY 4C TYPE? 811 00:19:53,066 --> 00:19:55,133 >> OH! 812 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:55,966 HOLD ON JUST A MINUTE! 813 00:19:56,033 --> 00:19:56,800 LET ME ASK! 814 00:19:56,866 --> 00:19:57,800 IS ANYBODY FAMILIAR WITH 815 00:19:57,866 --> 00:20:00,966 AFRICAN-AMERICAN HAIR? 816 00:20:01,033 --> 00:20:03,700 >> NOT VERY MUCH. 817 00:20:03,766 --> 00:20:05,400 >> John: YEAH, THAT'S NOT GREAT. 818 00:20:05,466 --> 00:20:07,600 BUT I DO LOVE THAT RECEPTIONIST 819 00:20:07,666 --> 00:20:08,400 IS ASKING THE ENTIRE STAFF, 820 00:20:08,466 --> 00:20:09,266 LIKE SHE JUST GOT CALLED AS A 821 00:20:09,333 --> 00:20:09,900 PHONE-A-FRIEND ON 822 00:20:09,966 --> 00:20:11,266 "WHO WANTS TO BE A MILLIONAIRE." 823 00:20:11,333 --> 00:20:12,366 "HEY, DONNA, IT'S THE $25,000 824 00:20:12,433 --> 00:20:14,200 QUESTION. 825 00:20:14,266 --> 00:20:15,166 CAN YOU DO A SILK PRESS AND BUMP 826 00:20:15,233 --> 00:20:17,500 THOSE ENDS? 827 00:20:17,566 --> 00:20:19,700 FINAL ANSWER: SHE CAN'T." 828 00:20:19,766 --> 00:20:20,900 AND THIS ISN'T JUST A PROBLEM 829 00:20:20,966 --> 00:20:23,200 IN SALONS -- EVEN IN HOLLYWOOD, 830 00:20:23,266 --> 00:20:24,900 STYLISTS WHO ARE BOTH FAMILIAR 831 00:20:24,966 --> 00:20:26,533 WITH BLACK HAIR AND IN THE 832 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,033 HAIRSTYLISTS' UNION ARE RARE. 833 00:20:28,100 --> 00:20:29,666 AND ACTORS DEFINITELY KNOW WHEN 834 00:20:29,733 --> 00:20:31,333 THEIR PRODUCTION FAILED TO HIRE 835 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,166 ONE. 836 00:20:32,233 --> 00:20:33,500 >> I WAS ON THIS SHOW. 837 00:20:33,566 --> 00:20:35,233 THEY MADE ME A SERIES REGULAR. 838 00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:36,200 I WAS HELLA PUMPED, WALKED IN 839 00:20:36,266 --> 00:20:36,766 THE HAIR AND MAKEUP TRAILER 840 00:20:36,833 --> 00:20:37,500 FIRST TIME. 841 00:20:37,566 --> 00:20:38,333 "OH, SHIT. 842 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:39,033 I'M ABOUT TO, LIKE, GET PAID. 843 00:20:39,100 --> 00:20:40,666 LET ME SEE." 844 00:20:40,733 --> 00:20:41,933 HOMEGIRL, THIS WHITE LADY, 845 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,366 SHE TAPPED MY HEAD. 846 00:20:43,433 --> 00:20:44,966 >> YUP! 847 00:20:45,033 --> 00:20:47,500 >> NOT LYING, SHE TAPPED IT, 848 00:20:47,566 --> 00:20:48,500 SPRAYED SOME WATER -- DIDN'T 849 00:20:48,566 --> 00:20:50,633 BRUSH, DIDN'T COMB, AND LEFT. 850 00:20:50,700 --> 00:20:51,766 AND I WAS LIKE, "OH, WILD!" 851 00:20:51,833 --> 00:20:53,266 >> John: I ACTUALLY RECOMMEND 852 00:20:53,333 --> 00:20:55,000 GOING BACK AND WATCHING EACH 853 00:20:55,066 --> 00:20:57,633 ACTOR IN THAT CLIP AS HE TELLS 854 00:20:57,700 --> 00:21:01,000 THAT STORY, 855 00:21:01,066 --> 00:21:03,433 BECAUSE YOU REALLY GET THE SENSE 856 00:21:03,500 --> 00:21:04,033 THAT 857 00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:05,166 EVERY ONE OF THEM IDENTIFIES 858 00:21:05,233 --> 00:21:06,000 WITH WHAT HE'S SAYING. 859 00:21:06,066 --> 00:21:07,766 AND IT'S NOT IDEAL THAT FOR 860 00:21:07,833 --> 00:21:09,400 A LOT OF HAIRSTYLISTS, THEIR 861 00:21:09,466 --> 00:21:09,966 STRATEGY TO DEAL WITH BLACK 862 00:21:10,033 --> 00:21:10,566 CLIENTS IS THE SAME YOU'D USE 863 00:21:10,633 --> 00:21:11,200 TO GET YOUR CAT OFF THE KITCHEN 864 00:21:11,266 --> 00:21:11,533 COUNTER. 865 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,100 GIVE THEM A LITTLE SPRITZ AND 866 00:21:13,166 --> 00:21:14,266 THEN GIVE THEM A PAT ON THE HEAD 867 00:21:14,333 --> 00:21:15,200 SO THEY KNOW YOU'RE NOT MAD. 868 00:21:15,266 --> 00:21:15,933 AND WHEN YOU CONSIDER ALL OF 869 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,700 THE OBSTACLES THAT GET PLACED IN 870 00:21:17,766 --> 00:21:19,166 THE PATH OF BLACK PEOPLE, IT'S 871 00:21:19,233 --> 00:21:20,466 UNDERSTANDABLY PRETTY HARD TO 872 00:21:20,533 --> 00:21:22,466 TAKE WHEN WHITE PEOPLE WEAR THE 873 00:21:22,533 --> 00:21:23,300 SAME EXACT SAME HAIRSTYLES THAT 874 00:21:23,366 --> 00:21:24,600 THEY GET JUDGEMENT FOR. 875 00:21:24,666 --> 00:21:27,033 FROM BO DEREK, FAMOUSLY WEARING 876 00:21:27,100 --> 00:21:28,533 BRAIDS IN THE MOVIE "10" TO 877 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,100 ADELE AND MILEY CYRUS TRYING ON 878 00:21:31,166 --> 00:21:31,766 BLACK HAIRSTYLES FOR FUN, TO 879 00:21:31,833 --> 00:21:33,000 THIS COMME DES GARCONS FASHION 880 00:21:33,066 --> 00:21:37,400 SHOW, AT WHICH THE MODELS WORE 881 00:21:37,466 --> 00:21:38,700 LACE FRONT CORNROW WIGS, 882 00:21:38,766 --> 00:21:39,233 WHICH WERE AWFUL IN EVERY 883 00:21:39,300 --> 00:21:40,700 POSSIBLE WAY. 884 00:21:40,766 --> 00:21:42,033 I MEAN, LOOK AT THAT THING! 885 00:21:42,100 --> 00:21:43,466 THERE IS ENOUGH ROOM BETWEEN 886 00:21:43,533 --> 00:21:44,033 EACH BRAID TO LAND A FUCKING 887 00:21:44,100 --> 00:21:45,166 PLANE, AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE 888 00:21:45,233 --> 00:21:45,866 TO LOOK CLOSELY TO SEE THE 889 00:21:45,933 --> 00:21:46,566 MODEL'S DARK HAIR THROUGH THE 890 00:21:46,633 --> 00:21:46,766 LACE. 891 00:21:46,833 --> 00:21:47,900 COME ON! 892 00:21:47,966 --> 00:21:49,666 YOU PUT A WIG CAP ON FIRST, 893 00:21:49,733 --> 00:21:51,033 THEN YOU PUT THE WIG ON! 894 00:21:51,100 --> 00:21:52,266 YOU GRAB YOUR GOT2B SPRAY 895 00:21:52,333 --> 00:21:54,066 OR WIG GLUE, YOU MELT THAT LACE, 896 00:21:54,133 --> 00:21:55,000 AND YOU LAY THOSE EDGES DOWN 897 00:21:55,066 --> 00:21:56,466 SO WELL THEY FALL ASLEEP. 898 00:21:56,533 --> 00:21:57,733 THERE ARE ONLY TWO SITUATIONS 899 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,600 WHERE THAT APPALLING LEVEL OF 900 00:21:59,666 --> 00:22:00,500 WIG APPLICATION IS ACCEPTABLE: 901 00:22:00,566 --> 00:22:02,300 EITHER YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF 902 00:22:02,366 --> 00:22:03,500 HOSTING AN EPISODE OF "SNL," OR 903 00:22:03,566 --> 00:22:04,133 YOU'RE POSING AS A BRITISH NANNY 904 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,033 TO STAY CLOSE TO YOUR CHILDREN 905 00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:08,033 AFTER YOUR DIVORCE. 906 00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:09,466 THAT IS IT. 907 00:22:09,533 --> 00:22:10,966 AND THE THING IS, WHITE PEOPLE 908 00:22:11,033 --> 00:22:12,533 APPROPRIATING BLACK HAIRSTYLES 909 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,433 ISN'T JUST INFURIATING -- IT CAN 910 00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:15,800 DIRECTLY MAKE IT HARDER FOR 911 00:22:15,866 --> 00:22:17,233 BLACK PEOPLE TO FIGHT 912 00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:18,266 DISCRIMINATION CONCERNING THEIR 913 00:22:18,333 --> 00:22:19,266 HAIR. 914 00:22:19,333 --> 00:22:22,466 >> THERE WAS A COURT CASE, 1981, 915 00:22:22,533 --> 00:22:24,133 A DISCRIMINATION SUIT FILED BY A 916 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,666 BLACK WOMAN NAMED RENEE ROGERS. 917 00:22:25,733 --> 00:22:27,133 SHE'D WORKED FOR AMERICAN 918 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:27,766 AIRLINES AND SHE WORE HER HAIR 919 00:22:27,833 --> 00:22:29,633 IN CORNROWS. 920 00:22:29,700 --> 00:22:31,166 HER LEGAL ARGUMENT WAS THAT HER 921 00:22:31,233 --> 00:22:32,266 HAIRSTYLE WAS A PART OF HER 922 00:22:32,333 --> 00:22:36,700 CULTURAL HERITAGE. 923 00:22:36,766 --> 00:22:38,066 THE JUDGE RULED AGAINST HER IN 924 00:22:38,133 --> 00:22:39,500 FEDERAL COURT BECAUSE HE SAID 925 00:22:39,566 --> 00:22:42,300 SHE GOT HER HAIR DONE SOON AFTER 926 00:22:42,366 --> 00:22:43,400 THE MOVIE "TEN" CAME OUT. 927 00:22:43,466 --> 00:22:44,366 AND THEREFORE, THERE WAS NO 928 00:22:44,433 --> 00:22:45,066 LEGAL BASIS FOR SAYING IT WAS 929 00:22:45,133 --> 00:22:45,800 CULTURAL HERITAGE BECAUSE 930 00:22:45,866 --> 00:22:46,533 SHE WAS DOING SOMETHING THAT 931 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:47,433 ESSENTIALLY WAS IMITATING HOW 932 00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:49,966 BO DEREK STYLED HER HAIR. 933 00:22:50,033 --> 00:22:50,800 >> John: YEAH, IT'S TRUE. 934 00:22:50,866 --> 00:22:51,500 AMONG THE REASONS HE DISMISSED 935 00:22:51,566 --> 00:22:53,200 HER CASE, THE JUDGE SUGGESTED 936 00:22:53,266 --> 00:22:54,500 THAT A BLACK PERSON WEARING A 937 00:22:54,566 --> 00:22:55,100 TRADITIONALLY BLACK HAIRSTYLE 938 00:22:55,166 --> 00:22:56,666 WAS JUST COPYING A WHITE 939 00:22:56,733 --> 00:22:57,833 CELEBRITY, WHO STOLE IT FROM 940 00:22:57,900 --> 00:23:00,300 BLACK PEOPLE. 941 00:23:00,366 --> 00:23:02,033 WHICH IS JUST RIDICULOUS! 942 00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:03,466 HAIRSTYLES HAVE CULTURAL ROOTS. 943 00:23:03,533 --> 00:23:05,133 THEY DON'T JUST COME OUT OF 944 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,366 NOWHERE TO SWEEP THE NATION, 945 00:23:07,433 --> 00:23:08,200 WITH THE SOLE EXCEPTION OF 946 00:23:08,266 --> 00:23:09,466 "THE RACHEL," WHICH WASN'T 947 00:23:09,533 --> 00:23:10,633 APPROPRIATED FROM ANY CULTURE. 948 00:23:10,700 --> 00:23:11,533 IT SIMPLY SPRANG FORTH, 949 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:12,933 FULLY-FORMED, FROM THE CONCEPT 950 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,866 KNOWN AS "THE '90s." 951 00:23:14,933 --> 00:23:16,566 AND I WISH I COULD SAY THAT'S 952 00:23:16,633 --> 00:23:17,833 A THING OF THE PAST, BUT YOU 953 00:23:17,900 --> 00:23:19,400 KNOW IT ISN'T. 954 00:23:19,466 --> 00:23:20,500 CHASTITY JONES, THE WOMAN YOU 955 00:23:20,566 --> 00:23:22,866 SAW EARLIER, SPENT YEARS 956 00:23:22,933 --> 00:23:24,066 APPEALING HER CASE, ONLY TO 957 00:23:24,133 --> 00:23:26,033 LOSE, IN PART, BECAUSE JUDGES 958 00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:26,933 INTERPRETED CIVIL RIGHTS LAW 959 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,166 TO PROTECT AGAINST 960 00:23:28,233 --> 00:23:29,200 DISCRIMINATION BASED ONLY ON 961 00:23:29,266 --> 00:23:31,966 "IMMUTABLE" OR UNCHANGEABLE 962 00:23:32,033 --> 00:23:33,100 CHARACTERISTICS ASSOCIATED 963 00:23:33,166 --> 00:23:34,533 WITH RACE, LIKE SKIN COLOR. 964 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,800 SO FOR DECADES, COURTS HAVE 965 00:23:36,866 --> 00:23:38,100 FOUND THAT HAIRSTYLES, EVEN 966 00:23:38,166 --> 00:23:39,100 THOUGH THEY ARE DEEPLY TIED TO 967 00:23:39,166 --> 00:23:39,966 RACIAL IDENTITY, ARE NOT 968 00:23:40,033 --> 00:23:41,800 COVERED. 969 00:23:41,866 --> 00:23:44,633 AND ALL OF THAT MEANS THAT A 970 00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:46,066 YOUNGER GENERATION CAN STILL END 971 00:23:46,133 --> 00:23:46,633 UP HAVING TO DEAL WITH THIS 972 00:23:46,700 --> 00:23:47,866 SHIT. 973 00:23:47,933 --> 00:23:49,100 >> 19-YEAR-OLD DESTINY THOMPKINS 974 00:23:49,166 --> 00:23:51,266 HAS WORKED AT THIS 975 00:23:51,333 --> 00:23:52,200 BANANA REPUBLIC STORE AT THE 976 00:23:52,266 --> 00:23:54,200 WESTCHESTER MALL IN WHITE PLAINS 977 00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:55,200 FOR JUST ABOUT A MONTH. 978 00:23:55,266 --> 00:23:56,566 SHE WAS CALLED INTO A MEETING 979 00:23:56,633 --> 00:23:57,966 WITH HER MANAGER ON WEDNESDAY, 980 00:23:58,033 --> 00:23:58,833 CAUGHT COMPLETELY OFF GUARD BY 981 00:23:58,900 --> 00:24:00,500 WHAT HAPPENED NEXT. 982 00:24:00,566 --> 00:24:01,933 >> HE WAS LIKE, "YEAH, SO, THE 983 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:02,766 DISTRICT MANAGER CAME IN AND SHE 984 00:24:02,833 --> 00:24:05,333 POINTED OUT YOUR HAIR." 985 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:05,933 AND I'M LIKE, "OKAY, SO WHAT'S 986 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,333 WRONG WITH MY HAIR?" 987 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,466 HE SAID, "IT'S A LITTLE TOO 988 00:24:08,533 --> 00:24:11,466 URBAN AND UNKEMPT FOR OUR LOOK 989 00:24:11,533 --> 00:24:13,600 AND FOR OUR IMAGE. 990 00:24:13,666 --> 00:24:14,266 WE WERE JUST WONDERING, LIKE, IF 991 00:24:14,333 --> 00:24:19,166 YOU COULD JUST TAKE THEM OUT." 992 00:24:19,233 --> 00:24:21,300 >> John: OKAY, PUTTING ASIDE THE 993 00:24:21,366 --> 00:24:23,133 USE OF THE WORD "URBAN" -- A 994 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,300 LEVEL OF TONE-DEAFNESS ON PAR 995 00:24:25,366 --> 00:24:27,400 WITH NAMING YOUR STORE "BANANA 996 00:24:27,466 --> 00:24:28,266 REPUBLIC" -- "JUST TAKE THEM 997 00:24:28,333 --> 00:24:28,733 OUT?" 998 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,766 THOSE ARE WORDS FROM SOMEONE WHO 999 00:24:29,833 --> 00:24:30,733 HAS ZERO IDEA OF WHAT IT TOOK TO 1000 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:31,633 PUT THEM IN IN THE FIRST PLACE. 1001 00:24:31,700 --> 00:24:32,866 THAT'S COMING FROM A MAN WHO, 1002 00:24:32,933 --> 00:24:34,133 I'M GUESSING, HAS NEVER SPENT 1003 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,533 SEVEN HOURS IN A SALON CHAIR 1004 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,000 WITH AN iPAD FULL OF MOVIES AND 1005 00:24:37,066 --> 00:24:39,700 A BACKPACK FULL OF SNACKS. 1006 00:24:39,766 --> 00:24:42,366 NOW YOU SHOULD KNOW, THE STORE 1007 00:24:42,433 --> 00:24:43,166 CALLED THAT UNACCEPTABLE, AND 1008 00:24:43,233 --> 00:24:44,200 THE MANAGER WAS FIRED. 1009 00:24:44,266 --> 00:24:45,066 BUT THE PROBLEM IS, SINCE 1010 00:24:45,133 --> 00:24:45,966 PROFESSIONALISM GETS DEFINED BY 1011 00:24:46,033 --> 00:24:46,933 WHITE STANDARDS AND 1012 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,066 EXPECTATIONS, BLACK HAIR 1013 00:24:48,133 --> 00:24:49,500 IS MORE LIKELY TO CRASH INTO 1014 00:24:49,566 --> 00:24:50,766 THOSE EXPECTATIONS. 1015 00:24:50,833 --> 00:24:52,800 SO WHAT CAN WE DO? 1016 00:24:52,866 --> 00:24:55,500 WELL, FOR SOME OF THE SMALLER 1017 00:24:55,566 --> 00:24:58,366 ISSUES YOU'VE SEEN TONIGHT, 1018 00:24:58,433 --> 00:24:59,266 THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES. 1019 00:24:59,333 --> 00:25:00,266 SOME CHAIN STORES, INCLUDING 1020 00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:01,266 WALMART, HAVE ANNOUNCED THEY'LL 1021 00:25:01,333 --> 00:25:02,400 NO LONGER BE LOCKING UP 1022 00:25:02,466 --> 00:25:02,833 BLACK HAIR PRODUCTS. 1023 00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:07,066 WHICH FEELS LIKE THE LEAST THEY 1024 00:25:07,133 --> 00:25:07,700 CAN DO, BUT IT IS A START! 1025 00:25:07,766 --> 00:25:08,666 A BIGGER CHANGE WOULD BE TO 1026 00:25:08,733 --> 00:25:09,833 PASS LAWS LIKE CROWN ACTS, OR 1027 00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:11,000 "CREATING A RESPECTFUL AND OPEN 1028 00:25:11,066 --> 00:25:12,300 WORLD FOR NATURAL HAIR." 1029 00:25:12,366 --> 00:25:13,766 VERSIONS HAVE ALREADY BECOME LAW 1030 00:25:13,833 --> 00:25:15,400 IN THESE 11 STATES. 1031 00:25:15,466 --> 00:25:17,600 AND WHILE THE LANGUAGE VARIES, 1032 00:25:17,666 --> 00:25:18,633 GENERALLY, THEY EXPAND 1033 00:25:18,700 --> 00:25:19,833 THE DEFINITION OF RACE IN 1034 00:25:19,900 --> 00:25:20,833 ANTI-DISCRIMINATION LAWS TO 1035 00:25:20,900 --> 00:25:23,266 INCLUDE TRAITS HISTORICALLY 1036 00:25:23,333 --> 00:25:24,600 ASSOCIATED WITH RACE, LIKE 1037 00:25:24,666 --> 00:25:25,866 PROTECTIVE HAIRSTYLES, SUCH AS 1038 00:25:25,933 --> 00:25:27,500 BRAIDS, LOCS, AND TWISTS. 1039 00:25:27,566 --> 00:25:29,333 UNFORTUNATELY, CROWN ACT BILLS 1040 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,566 HAVE REPEATEDLY MET WITH 1041 00:25:30,633 --> 00:25:31,800 REPUBLICAN OPPOSITION. 1042 00:25:31,866 --> 00:25:33,966 IN UTAH, IN ONE RECENT ZOOM 1043 00:25:34,033 --> 00:25:35,533 HEARING ON THEIR BILL, STATE 1044 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,266 SENATOR DERRIN OWENS -- WHO 1045 00:25:38,333 --> 00:25:39,600 VOTED AGAINST IT -- MADE A POINT 1046 00:25:39,666 --> 00:25:40,533 OF FIRST ADDRESSING THE BILL'S 1047 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,433 ADVOCATES LIKE THIS. 1048 00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:43,700 >> LET ME MAKE A COMMENT, 1049 00:25:43,766 --> 00:25:47,733 YOU PEOPLE ARE BEAUTIFUL. 1050 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,500 I DON'T NORMALLY DO THIS, BUT 1051 00:25:49,566 --> 00:25:50,766 I'M GOING TO SHARE. 1052 00:25:50,833 --> 00:25:51,833 I WAS IN THE STORE 1053 00:25:51,900 --> 00:25:53,666 THE OTHER DAY. 1054 00:25:53,733 --> 00:25:55,733 AND, UH, YOU WON'T BE ABLE 1055 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,333 TO SEE THIS PICTURE, BUT THIS 1056 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,200 GENTLEMAN IN FRONT OF ME -- A 1057 00:25:59,266 --> 00:25:59,733 BLACK MAN -- HAD TWO YOUNG 1058 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,933 CHILDREN AND THEY WERE JUST 1059 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:04,733 HAVING FUN AROUND, UP AND DOWN 1060 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,300 THE AISLE. 1061 00:26:05,366 --> 00:26:06,200 AND I DON'T NORMALLY TAKE 1062 00:26:06,266 --> 00:26:07,066 PICTURES OF CHILDREN, 1063 00:26:07,133 --> 00:26:07,700 BUT THEY WERE ADORABLE, 1064 00:26:07,766 --> 00:26:09,533 TWO BLACK CHILDREN. 1065 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:10,700 BECAUSE THEY WERE JUST THE 1066 00:26:10,766 --> 00:26:12,433 CUTEST KIDS IN THE WORLD. 1067 00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:14,366 ONE HAS CORNROWS AND ONE OF THEM 1068 00:26:14,433 --> 00:26:14,666 DREADLOCKS. 1069 00:26:14,733 --> 00:26:15,666 I WISH YOU COULD SEE THAT. 1070 00:26:15,733 --> 00:26:19,266 >> John: WHAT ARE YOU DOING, 1071 00:26:19,333 --> 00:26:19,900 YOU EXCEPTIONALLY WEIRD MAN? 1072 00:26:19,966 --> 00:26:21,566 JUST TO RECAP: HE STARTED OFF 1073 00:26:21,633 --> 00:26:23,500 THERE BY TELLING A GROUP OF 1074 00:26:23,566 --> 00:26:25,233 BLACK WOMEN, "YOU PEOPLE ARE 1075 00:26:25,300 --> 00:26:26,933 BEAUTIFUL," THEN PROCEEDED TO 1076 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,266 SAY, "I DON'T NORMALLY TAKE 1077 00:26:28,333 --> 00:26:30,200 PICTURES OF CHILDREN, BUT" -- 1078 00:26:30,266 --> 00:26:31,366 A PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE SENTENCE 1079 00:26:31,433 --> 00:26:32,000 UNTIL THE "BUT" PART. 1080 00:26:32,066 --> 00:26:33,233 THEN LAUNCHED INTO A STORY ABOUT 1081 00:26:33,300 --> 00:26:34,133 HOW HE KEEPS PHOTOS OF 1082 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:34,633 STRANGERS' CHILDREN 1083 00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:36,433 ON HIS PHONE. 1084 00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:38,166 ALL OF WHICH EVOKES A RESPONSE 1085 00:26:38,233 --> 00:26:39,900 PERHAPS BEST SUMMED UP BY THIS 1086 00:26:39,966 --> 00:26:40,900 EXPRESSION, WHICH I'D ARGUE IS 1087 00:26:40,966 --> 00:26:42,500 AN ABSOLUTE MASTERCLASS IN HOW 1088 00:26:42,566 --> 00:26:43,533 TO SAY "THE FUCK?" 1089 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,333 USING ONLY YOUR EYEBROWS. 1090 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,566 AND IF YOU'RE WONDERING HOW HE 1091 00:26:47,633 --> 00:26:50,100 GOT FROM THAT TO VOTING AGAINST 1092 00:26:50,166 --> 00:26:51,366 THE BILL, HIS ARGUMENT WAS THAT 1093 00:26:51,433 --> 00:26:52,733 HE FELT EXISTING LAWS WERE 1094 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,400 SUFFICIENT, AND THAT "IT ALMOST 1095 00:26:54,466 --> 00:26:55,700 LOOKS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO DO 1096 00:26:55,766 --> 00:26:57,966 SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST." 1097 00:26:58,033 --> 00:26:59,066 BUT THIS DISCRIMINATION ISN'T 1098 00:26:59,133 --> 00:27:00,566 "SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST," 1099 00:27:00,633 --> 00:27:02,800 IT'S "SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T 1100 00:27:02,866 --> 00:27:03,533 EXIST FOR WHITE MEN WHO'VE NEVER 1101 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,566 HAD TO THINK ABOUT IT BEFORE." 1102 00:27:05,633 --> 00:27:07,033 THE CONSEQUENCES OF HAIR-BASED 1103 00:27:07,100 --> 00:27:09,366 DISCRIMINATION ARE VERY REAL. 1104 00:27:09,433 --> 00:27:11,433 JUST LISTEN TO CONNECTICUT STATE 1105 00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:12,533 SENATOR GARY WINFIELD MAKE THE 1106 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,033 CASE FOR HIS STATE'S CROWN ACT, 1107 00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:15,433 IN THE RUN-UP TO IT PASSING INTO 1108 00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:16,600 LAW, BY TALKING ABOUT HIS 1109 00:27:16,666 --> 00:27:18,666 THREE-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER. 1110 00:27:18,733 --> 00:27:22,900 >> RIGHT NOW, SHE RUNS THROUGH 1111 00:27:22,966 --> 00:27:24,666 LIFE WITH ALL OF THE ENERGY THAT 1112 00:27:24,733 --> 00:27:26,933 SHE HAS, WITH ALL OF THE BEAUTY 1113 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:27,566 THAT SHE HAS WITH HER HAIR 1114 00:27:27,633 --> 00:27:29,833 NATURAL. 1115 00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:32,133 THAT'S WHO SHE IS. 1116 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,500 IT'S NOT JUST WHAT SITS ON TOP 1117 00:27:33,566 --> 00:27:37,033 OF HER HEAD, IT IS WHO SHE IS. 1118 00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:39,033 BUT I WANT HER TO BE ABLE TO 1119 00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:41,600 PARTICIPATE IN THIS WORLD FULLY, 1120 00:27:41,666 --> 00:27:43,300 AND SO EVEN IF SHE RUNS THROUGH 1121 00:27:43,366 --> 00:27:44,833 THIS WORLD WITH HER NATURAL 1122 00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:46,266 HAIR, THERE WILL BE A DISCUSSION 1123 00:27:46,333 --> 00:27:47,033 ABOUT WHAT IT IS TO RUN THROUGH 1124 00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:47,900 THIS WORLD WITH HER NATURAL 1125 00:27:47,966 --> 00:27:53,900 HAIR. 1126 00:27:53,966 --> 00:27:56,766 AND WHAT SHE WILL HAVE TO LEARN, 1127 00:27:56,833 --> 00:27:58,166 WHETHER SHE MAKES THE CHOICE TO 1128 00:27:58,233 --> 00:28:02,000 RUN THROUGH THIS WORLD WITH HER 1129 00:28:02,066 --> 00:28:04,700 NATURAL HAIR OR NOT, IS THAT A 1130 00:28:04,766 --> 00:28:06,666 PART OF HER IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. 1131 00:28:06,733 --> 00:28:08,166 >> John: THAT'S AWFUL. 1132 00:28:08,233 --> 00:28:09,866 IT'S INFURIATING THAT 1133 00:28:09,933 --> 00:28:11,300 BLACK CHILDREN HAVE TO ADD 1134 00:28:11,366 --> 00:28:13,066 "HAIR DISCRIMINATION" TO THE 1135 00:28:13,133 --> 00:28:14,533 LONG LIST OF THINGS THEY'RE 1136 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,700 ALREADY FORCED TO THINK ABOUT, 1137 00:28:15,766 --> 00:28:16,466 LIKE THE THREAT OF POLICE 1138 00:28:16,533 --> 00:28:17,633 VIOLENCE, THE DANGER OF 1139 00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:18,766 HARASSMENT BY RACIST 1140 00:28:18,833 --> 00:28:20,200 WHITE PEOPLE, AND OF COURSE, 1141 00:28:20,266 --> 00:28:21,833 THE VERY REAL RISK OF GETTING 1142 00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:22,666 PHOTOGRAPHED BY UTAH STATE 1143 00:28:22,733 --> 00:28:23,833 SENATOR DERRIN OWENS 1144 00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:26,866 IN A FUCKING CHECKOUT LINE. 1145 00:28:26,933 --> 00:28:28,266 THAT MAN'S DAUGHTER, AND ALL 1146 00:28:28,333 --> 00:28:30,333 BLACK PEOPLE, SHOULD CLEARLY BE 1147 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,700 ABLE TO MAKE CHOICES ABOUT THEIR 1148 00:28:31,766 --> 00:28:33,466 HAIR BASED ON WHAT THEY FEEL 1149 00:28:33,533 --> 00:28:35,066 LIKE DOING WITH IT, RATHER 1150 00:28:35,133 --> 00:28:36,033 THAN, "WILL THIS GET ME HARASSED 1151 00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:37,133 OR FIRED?" 1152 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:37,766 IF YOU WANT TO HAVE 1153 00:28:37,833 --> 00:28:38,733 NATURAL HAIR, GREAT! 1154 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:39,733 YOU WANT TO STRAIGHTEN 1155 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,033 YOUR HAIR, GREAT! 1156 00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:43,500 WHATEVER YOU LIKE! 1157 00:28:43,566 --> 00:28:44,600 THE POINT IS, BLACK HAIR 1158 00:28:44,666 --> 00:28:45,433 SHOULDN'T BE VIEWED, CORRALLED, 1159 00:28:45,500 --> 00:28:46,600 OR JUDGED BY WHITE PEOPLE'S 1160 00:28:46,666 --> 00:28:47,366 COMFORT. 1161 00:28:47,433 --> 00:28:48,333 BECAUSE IT DOESN'T BELONG TO 1162 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,066 WHITE PEOPLE, IT DOESN'T AFFECT 1163 00:28:50,133 --> 00:28:50,900 WHITE PEOPLE, AND WHITE PEOPLE 1164 00:28:50,966 --> 00:28:52,066 REALLY DON'T NEED TO HAVE AN 1165 00:28:52,133 --> 00:28:53,800 OPINION ON IT. 1166 00:28:53,866 --> 00:28:55,233 AND OUR LAWS SHOULD REFLECT 1167 00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:56,833 THAT. 1168 00:28:56,900 --> 00:28:58,100 AND I KNOW THERE MAY BE LIMITS 1169 00:28:58,166 --> 00:28:58,866 TO WHAT CROWN ACTS CAN 1170 00:28:58,933 --> 00:28:59,966 ACCOMPLISH. 1171 00:29:00,033 --> 00:29:01,666 EVEN IF ONE PASSES AT THE 1172 00:29:01,733 --> 00:29:03,200 FEDERAL LEVEL, THERE COULD 1173 00:29:03,266 --> 00:29:04,800 BE CASES WHERE A WHITE JUDGE IS 1174 00:29:04,866 --> 00:29:06,066 ASKED TO DECIDE WHETHER 1175 00:29:06,133 --> 00:29:07,666 A SPECIFIC HAIRSTYLE IS 1176 00:29:07,733 --> 00:29:09,300 "ASSOCIATED WITH RACE" AND 1177 00:29:09,366 --> 00:29:13,400 COMPLETELY FUCKS IT UP, BUT 1178 00:29:13,466 --> 00:29:14,333 THEY ARE A START. 1179 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:14,966 AND LOOK: IF YOU'RE NOT 1180 00:29:15,033 --> 00:29:16,333 A BLACK PERSON, IT'S PROBABLY 1181 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,300 EASY TO HEAR THESE STORIES AND 1182 00:29:17,366 --> 00:29:19,500 THINK "WELL, IT'S JUST HAIR," 1183 00:29:19,566 --> 00:29:20,566 BUT THE THING IS, IT'S NOT. 1184 00:29:20,633 --> 00:29:23,300 IT'S NOT AT ALL. 1185 00:29:23,366 --> 00:29:24,700 BLACK PEOPLE AREN'T GETTING 1186 00:29:24,766 --> 00:29:26,433 HIRED, OR ARE GETTING FIRED -- 1187 00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:27,500 BLACK STUDENTS ARE BEING TEASED, 1188 00:29:27,566 --> 00:29:30,400 TAUNTED, AND REMOVED FROM SCHOOL 1189 00:29:30,466 --> 00:29:31,733 -- ALL BECAUSE OF THEIR HAIR. 1190 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,700 AND CROWN ACT LAWS COULD MAKE A 1191 00:29:33,766 --> 00:29:35,566 REAL DIFFERENCE THERE. 1192 00:29:35,633 --> 00:29:38,133 AND WHILE SOCIAL STIGMA AND 1193 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:38,700 UNREALISTIC BEAUTY STANDARDS 1194 00:29:38,766 --> 00:29:39,466 AREN'T GOING TO GO AWAY 1195 00:29:39,533 --> 00:29:40,733 OVERNIGHT, THERE ARE A FEW 1196 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,600 THINGS THAT WHITE VIEWERS, 1197 00:29:42,666 --> 00:29:44,133 IN PARTICULAR, MIGHT WANT TO 1198 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,966 KEEP IN MIND GOING FORWARD. 1199 00:29:48,033 --> 00:29:48,500 AND TO THAT END, 1200 00:29:48,566 --> 00:29:49,433 IF YOU ARE ONE, THERE'S A 1201 00:29:49,500 --> 00:29:50,000 MESSAGE YOU SHOULD PROBABLY 1202 00:29:50,066 --> 00:29:52,566 HEAR. 1203 00:29:52,633 --> 00:29:56,133 >> HI, WHITE PEOPLE. 1204 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,333 >> HI, WHITE PEOPLE. 1205 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,066 I'M LESLIE JONES. 1206 00:29:59,133 --> 00:30:01,566 >> WHAT'S UP, BLACK PEOPLE. 1207 00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:03,133 >> BROTHERS AND SISTERS. 1208 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,000 >> YOU GOOD? 1209 00:30:05,066 --> 00:30:06,000 YOUR MAMA GOOD? 1210 00:30:06,066 --> 00:30:07,433 >> ALL RIGHT, LISTEN, I GOT TO 1211 00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:08,800 TALK TO THESE WHITE PEOPLE FOR A 1212 00:30:08,866 --> 00:30:09,300 SECOND. 1213 00:30:09,366 --> 00:30:12,566 I SEE YOU AT THE MEETING. 1214 00:30:12,633 --> 00:30:13,133 LOOK, WHITE PEOPLE. 1215 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,133 I KNOW YOU HAVE LOTS OF 1216 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:15,400 QUESTIONS. 1217 00:30:15,466 --> 00:30:17,500 >> LIKE, MAY BE TOO MANY 1218 00:30:17,566 --> 00:30:18,133 QUESTIONS. 1219 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,333 >> LIKE, HOW OFTEN DO YOU HAVE 1220 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,066 TO WASH BLACK HAIR? 1221 00:30:22,133 --> 00:30:23,766 >> WHAT IS A SILK PRESS? 1222 00:30:23,833 --> 00:30:25,800 >> WHAT DOES IT DO RAG DO? 1223 00:30:25,866 --> 00:30:27,900 >> WE ARE ABOUT TO FILL YOU IN. 1224 00:30:27,966 --> 00:30:31,200 WE ARE ABOUT TO GIVE YOU ANSWERS 1225 00:30:31,266 --> 00:30:32,433 TO ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT 1226 00:30:32,500 --> 00:30:32,733 BLACK HAIR. 1227 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,566 >> ARE YOU READY FOR IT? 1228 00:30:34,633 --> 00:30:36,000 ARE YOU READY FOR IT? 1229 00:30:36,066 --> 00:30:38,233 >> ARE YOU READY FOR IT? 1230 00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:39,666 >> GOOGLE IT. 1231 00:30:39,733 --> 00:30:42,000 >> GOOGLE IT. 1232 00:30:42,066 --> 00:30:43,466 >> FUCKING GOOGLE IT. 1233 00:30:43,533 --> 00:30:45,466 >> IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE GOOGLE. 1234 00:30:45,533 --> 00:30:49,833 IT CAN BE FUCKING BING. 1235 00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:51,266 >> THE INFORMATION IS OUT THERE. 1236 00:30:51,333 --> 00:30:53,766 >> ONCE YOU GET THE INFORMATION, 1237 00:30:53,833 --> 00:30:54,366 YOU CAN APPRECIATE THE BEAUTY 1238 00:30:54,433 --> 00:30:56,600 AND HARD WORK IT TAKES TO KEEP 1239 00:30:56,666 --> 00:30:58,133 MY HAIR LAID AND LOOKING GOOD. 1240 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,300 >> IF YOU AREN'T INTERESTED IN 1241 00:31:00,366 --> 00:31:03,700 GOOGLING IT, YOU THERE IS 1242 00:31:03,766 --> 00:31:04,600 ANOTHER OPTION. 1243 00:31:04,666 --> 00:31:05,733 >> LEAVE US ALONE. 1244 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,566 >> FUCKING OFF IS ALWAYS AN 1245 00:31:07,633 --> 00:31:07,900 OPTION. 1246 00:31:07,966 --> 00:31:09,266 >> WHITE PEOPLE, DON'T TELL ME 1247 00:31:09,333 --> 00:31:09,933 YOU CAN FIGURE THAT OUT. 1248 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,733 YOU FIGURED OUT SETTLERS OF 1249 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:14,933 CATAN. 1250 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,233 >> YOU FIGURED OUT SOURDOUGH. 1251 00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:21,100 >> YOU CAN LEARN WHAT A BOX 1252 00:31:21,166 --> 00:31:22,966 BRAID IS, BITCH. 1253 00:31:23,033 --> 00:31:24,933 >> BASICALLY, GOOGLE IT. 1254 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:25,300 DON'T TOUCH IT. 1255 00:31:25,366 --> 00:31:26,800 >> ONE MORE THING. 1256 00:31:26,866 --> 00:31:29,033 >> DON'T SPRAY MY WATER AND TAP 1257 00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:29,966 MY HEAD. 1258 00:31:30,033 --> 00:31:32,233 I'M NOT A CAT. 1259 00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:33,366 >> BYE. 1260 00:31:33,433 --> 00:31:34,533 >> John: THAT'S OUR SHOW. 1261 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,166 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING. 1262 00:31:37,233 --> 00:31:38,066 WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK. 1263 00:31:38,133 --> 00:31:38,366 GOOD NIGHT. 1264 00:31:38,433 --> 00:31:45,300 ♪ ♪