1 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:26,133 >> John: HELLO THERE, 2 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,266 AND WELCOME TO THE SHOW. 3 00:00:28,333 --> 00:00:29,667 AND LOOK, WE'RE GOING TO DO 4 00:00:29,734 --> 00:00:30,567 SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT 5 00:00:30,633 --> 00:00:31,700 TONIGHT. 6 00:00:31,767 --> 00:00:32,900 OUR WHOLE SHOW IS ACTUALLY GOING 7 00:00:32,967 --> 00:00:34,066 TO BE ABOUT ONE THING, 8 00:00:34,133 --> 00:00:35,467 AND YOU PROBABLY KNOW WHAT, 9 00:00:35,533 --> 00:00:36,633 AND YOU PROBABLY KNOW WHY. 10 00:00:36,700 --> 00:00:37,967 BECAUSE ALL WEEK LONG, 11 00:00:38,033 --> 00:00:38,867 PROTESTERS HAVE CONTINUED 12 00:00:38,934 --> 00:00:40,333 TO FILL THE STREETS IN ALL 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:41,600 50 STATES IN THE WAKE OF 14 00:00:41,667 --> 00:00:42,934 THE HORRIFIC MURDER OF 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,266 GEORGE FLOYD BY THE POLICE. 16 00:00:44,333 --> 00:00:46,200 AND IN RESPONSE TO THOSE 17 00:00:46,266 --> 00:00:46,900 PROTESTS -- WHICH HAVE BEEN 18 00:00:46,967 --> 00:00:48,066 A STIRRING PUSH BACK AGAINST 19 00:00:48,133 --> 00:00:49,500 INSTITUTIONAL RACISM AND 20 00:00:49,567 --> 00:00:51,834 BRUTALITY -- IT'S BEEN FRANKLY 21 00:00:51,900 --> 00:00:52,700 SICKENING TO SEE THEM MET WITH 22 00:00:52,767 --> 00:00:54,000 THIS. 23 00:00:54,066 --> 00:00:55,934 >> ACROSS THE COUNTRY, PEACEFUL 24 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,533 PROTESTS HAVE TOO OFTEN DEVOLVED 25 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,834 INTO STANDOFFS WITH HEAVILY 26 00:00:58,900 --> 00:01:00,033 ARMED POLICE USING 27 00:01:00,100 --> 00:01:02,133 MILITARY-STYLE TACTICS. 28 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,700 FLASH BANGS, TEAR GAS, 29 00:01:03,767 --> 00:01:05,133 RUBBER BULLETS, HELICOPTERS, 30 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,834 ARMORED VEHICLES. 31 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:07,967 >> WE'RE OUT HERE PEACEFULLY 32 00:01:08,033 --> 00:01:09,266 PROTESTING. 33 00:01:09,333 --> 00:01:09,867 BUT THEY'RE ARMED LIKE THEY'RE 34 00:01:09,934 --> 00:01:11,500 GOING TO WAR. 35 00:01:11,567 --> 00:01:13,200 >> John: YEAH, THEY ARE. 36 00:01:13,266 --> 00:01:14,400 AND LOOK, IF POLICE ARE TRYING 37 00:01:14,467 --> 00:01:15,567 TO CONVINCE THE PUBLIC THEY'RE 38 00:01:15,633 --> 00:01:17,367 NOT GUILTY OF DISPLAYING 39 00:01:17,433 --> 00:01:18,667 EXCESSIVE FORCE, IT'S PROBABLY 40 00:01:18,734 --> 00:01:20,333 NOT A GOOD IDEA TO REPEATEDLY 41 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,767 DISPLAY EXCESSIVE FORCE ON 42 00:01:23,834 --> 00:01:25,033 NATIONAL TELEVISION, INCLUDING 43 00:01:25,133 --> 00:01:26,200 IN THIS CITY, WHERE 44 00:01:26,266 --> 00:01:27,300 MAYOR DE BLASIO PRAISED THEM FOR 45 00:01:27,367 --> 00:01:28,400 THEIR "TREMENDOUS RESTRAINT," 46 00:01:28,500 --> 00:01:29,967 AND GOVERNOR CUOMO THREATENED TO 47 00:01:30,033 --> 00:01:31,233 SEND IN THE NATIONAL GUARD. 48 00:01:31,300 --> 00:01:32,633 AND I WILL SAY: HAVING RECENTLY 49 00:01:32,700 --> 00:01:33,967 SAID THAT I COULDN'T WAIT TO GO 50 00:01:34,033 --> 00:01:35,567 BACK TO HATING ANDREW CUOMO 51 00:01:35,633 --> 00:01:36,567 AGAIN, I DIDN'T THINK THE 52 00:01:36,633 --> 00:01:37,533 OPPORTUNITY WOULD COME QUITE 53 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,066 THIS SOON. 54 00:01:41,133 --> 00:01:42,266 AND THESE PROTESTS HAVE RECEIVED 55 00:01:42,333 --> 00:01:43,300 A GREAT DEAL OF SUPPORT, WITH 56 00:01:43,367 --> 00:01:44,333 MASSIVE MARCHES TAKING PLACE 57 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:49,333 AROUND THE WORLD. 58 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:50,367 AND THE PROTESTORS' MESSAGE HAS 59 00:01:50,433 --> 00:01:51,767 TAKEN MANY FORMS, FROM CHANTS, 60 00:01:51,834 --> 00:01:54,000 TO SIGNS, TO A MAN WHO CALLED IN 61 00:01:54,066 --> 00:01:54,567 TO AN L.A. POLICE COMMISSION 62 00:01:54,633 --> 00:01:55,133 MEETING, HELD OVER ZOOM. 63 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,033 HE HAD BEEN GIVEN 30 SECONDS, 64 00:01:56,100 --> 00:01:58,400 WHICH HE USED WITH MAXIMUM 65 00:01:58,467 --> 00:01:59,400 EFFICIENCY TO DELIVER A MESSAGE 66 00:01:59,467 --> 00:02:00,967 FOR POLICE CHIEF MICHEL MOORE: 67 00:02:01,033 --> 00:02:02,300 >> I FIND IT DISGUSTING THAT 68 00:02:02,367 --> 00:02:03,200 THE LAPD IS SLAUGHTERING 69 00:02:03,266 --> 00:02:03,834 PEACEFUL PROTESTERS 70 00:02:03,900 --> 00:02:05,100 ON THE STREET. 71 00:02:05,166 --> 00:02:06,233 I HAD TWO FRIENDS GO TO THE 72 00:02:06,300 --> 00:02:07,834 PROTESTS IN BEVERLY HILLS 73 00:02:07,900 --> 00:02:08,967 A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, AND THE 74 00:02:09,033 --> 00:02:10,266 PROTEST WAS PEACEFUL UNTIL THE 75 00:02:10,333 --> 00:02:13,467 POLICE SHOWED UP WITH THEIR 76 00:02:13,533 --> 00:02:14,233 EXCESSIVE, VIOLENT FORCE, 77 00:02:14,300 --> 00:02:14,867 SHOOTING RUBBER BULLETS AND 78 00:02:14,934 --> 00:02:15,533 THROWING TEAR GAS. 79 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:16,266 IS THIS WHAT YOU THINK IS 80 00:02:16,333 --> 00:02:17,333 PROTECTING AND SERVING? 81 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:18,367 BECAUSE I THINK IT'S BULLSHIT. 82 00:02:18,433 --> 00:02:19,300 FUCK YOU, MICHEL MOORE! 83 00:02:19,367 --> 00:02:20,300 I REFUSE TO CALL YOU AN OFFICER 84 00:02:20,367 --> 00:02:22,433 OR A CHIEF BECAUSE YOU DON'T 85 00:02:22,500 --> 00:02:22,900 DESERVE THOSE TITLES. 86 00:02:22,967 --> 00:02:24,200 YOU ARE A DISGRACE. 87 00:02:24,266 --> 00:02:25,233 SUCK MY DICK AND CHOKE ON IT. 88 00:02:25,300 --> 00:02:26,066 I YIELD MY TIME. 89 00:02:26,133 --> 00:02:28,633 FUCK YOU! 90 00:02:28,700 --> 00:02:31,433 >> John: IF THE PRESIDENT IS 91 00:02:31,500 --> 00:02:32,066 TAKING NOTES, THAT IS WHAT 92 00:02:32,133 --> 00:02:33,233 A PERFECT CALL LOOKS LIKE. 93 00:02:33,300 --> 00:02:35,233 MY FAVORITE PART IS THAT, AFTER 94 00:02:35,300 --> 00:02:36,333 HE'S FINISHED UNLOADING ON THAT 95 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:37,734 POLICE CHIEF, HE YIELDS HIS 96 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:38,900 TIME, REALIZES HE STILL HAS 97 00:02:38,967 --> 00:02:40,300 A COUPLE OF SECONDS LEFT, 98 00:02:40,367 --> 00:02:41,734 SO UN-YIELDS IT, AND THROWS 99 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,200 IN A BONUS "FUCK YOU." 100 00:02:44,266 --> 00:02:45,000 NOW AS FOR THE PRESIDENT 101 00:02:45,066 --> 00:02:45,567 HIMSELF, 102 00:02:45,633 --> 00:02:46,934 HE INITIALLY HID FROM THE 103 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,133 PROTESTERS IN A BUNKER, LATER 104 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,333 CLAIMING HE WASN'T HIDING, HE 105 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,633 WAS ACTUALLY JUST "INSPECTING 106 00:02:50,700 --> 00:02:51,800 IT," THEN HIS ATTORNEY GENERAL 107 00:02:51,867 --> 00:02:53,600 HAD POLICE GAS PROTESTORS 108 00:02:53,667 --> 00:02:55,333 OUTSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE SO TRUMP 109 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:56,800 COULD HAVE AN INEXPLICABLE PHOTO 110 00:02:56,867 --> 00:02:58,367 OP AT A NEARBY CHURCH, WHILE 111 00:02:58,433 --> 00:02:59,600 HOLDING UP A BIBLE LIKE IT'S 112 00:02:59,667 --> 00:03:00,467 THE TICKET FOR HIS SANDWICH 113 00:03:00,533 --> 00:03:02,100 ORDER THAT WAS JUST CALLED. 114 00:03:02,166 --> 00:03:03,433 HE ALSO, IN ANNOUNCING JOB 115 00:03:03,500 --> 00:03:05,200 NUMBERS ON FRIDAY, INVOKED 116 00:03:05,266 --> 00:03:06,867 GEORGE FLOYD'S NAME, SAYING, 117 00:03:06,934 --> 00:03:08,367 "THIS WAS A GREAT DAY FOR HIM," 118 00:03:08,433 --> 00:03:11,900 WHICH IS UTTERLY FUCKING 119 00:03:11,967 --> 00:03:13,266 DISGUSTING. 120 00:03:13,333 --> 00:03:13,900 BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO 121 00:03:13,967 --> 00:03:14,633 FOCUS ON TRUMP TONIGHT. 122 00:03:14,700 --> 00:03:16,133 NOR ARE WE -- UNLIKE SOME IN 123 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,700 CABLE NEWS -- GOING TO DWELL ON 124 00:03:17,767 --> 00:03:19,166 THE INCIDENTS OF LOOTING THAT 125 00:03:19,233 --> 00:03:20,667 OCCURRED, EXCEPT TO SAY: IF 126 00:03:20,734 --> 00:03:22,233 YOU'VE SAID THE NAME "MACY'S" 127 00:03:22,300 --> 00:03:23,033 MORE THAN YOU'VE SAID THE NAME 128 00:03:23,100 --> 00:03:24,533 "BREONNA TAYLOR" THIS WEEK, YOU 129 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,533 CAN VERY MUCH FUCK OFF. 130 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:27,767 LIKEWISE, IF YOU'RE ASKING WHY 131 00:03:27,834 --> 00:03:28,734 A SPONTANEOUS, DECENTRALIZED 132 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:29,734 PROTEST CAN'T CONTROL EVERY ONE 133 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,200 OF ITS PARTICIPANTS MORE THAN 134 00:03:31,266 --> 00:03:32,834 YOU'RE ASKING THE SAME ABOUT 135 00:03:32,900 --> 00:03:34,967 A TAXPAYER-FUNDED, 136 00:03:35,033 --> 00:03:35,800 HEAVILY-REGIMENTED, 137 00:03:35,867 --> 00:03:37,567 PAID WORKFORCE, YOU CAN ALSO, 138 00:03:37,633 --> 00:03:38,266 IN THE WORDS OF THIS 139 00:03:38,333 --> 00:03:39,734 GENERATION'S ROBERT FROST: 140 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,467 SUCK MY DICK AND CHOKE ON IT, 141 00:03:42,533 --> 00:03:43,066 FUCK YOU. 142 00:03:43,133 --> 00:03:44,166 INSTEAD, TONIGHT, LET'S TALK 143 00:03:44,233 --> 00:03:45,834 ABOUT THE POLICE. 144 00:03:45,900 --> 00:03:47,400 BECAUSE ALL WEEK, WE'VE SEEN 145 00:03:47,467 --> 00:03:48,900 GRAPHIC VIDEOS -- WHICH ARE 146 00:03:48,967 --> 00:03:50,200 GOING TO BE HARD TO WATCH -- 147 00:03:50,266 --> 00:03:51,800 OF THEM DRIVING DIRECTLY INTO 148 00:03:51,867 --> 00:03:53,367 CROWDS, BEATING PEOPLE WITH 149 00:03:53,433 --> 00:03:54,500 STICKS, AND SOMETIMES ASSAULTING 150 00:03:54,567 --> 00:03:55,633 THE RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE, WITH 151 00:03:55,700 --> 00:03:57,100 SHOCKING SPEED AND BARBARITY. 152 00:03:57,166 --> 00:04:00,567 >> PREMATURELY SHOOTING PEOPLE? 153 00:04:00,633 --> 00:04:01,834 PREMATURELY USING EXCESSIVE 154 00:04:01,900 --> 00:04:03,700 FORCE? 155 00:04:03,767 --> 00:04:04,800 GET YOUR SCARY ASS HOME 156 00:04:04,867 --> 00:04:09,100 SOMEWHERE. 157 00:04:09,166 --> 00:04:13,834 >> WHOA. 158 00:04:13,900 --> 00:04:14,533 >> OH, NO. 159 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,600 >> WHAT THE FUCK? 160 00:04:18,667 --> 00:04:21,767 WHAT THE FUCK? 161 00:04:21,834 --> 00:04:24,266 WHAT THE FUCK? 162 00:04:24,333 --> 00:04:26,000 >> John: IT'S GENUINELY 163 00:04:26,066 --> 00:04:27,000 IMPOSSIBLE TO OVERSTATE HOW 164 00:04:27,066 --> 00:04:28,700 ENRAGING THAT IS. 165 00:04:28,767 --> 00:04:30,233 THEY'RE PROTESTING EXCESSIVE 166 00:04:30,300 --> 00:04:31,300 FORCE BY POLICE AND THE POLICE 167 00:04:31,367 --> 00:04:32,467 JUST START PEPPER SPRAYING THEM 168 00:04:32,533 --> 00:04:34,633 LIKE IT'S FUCKING SUNSCREEN. 169 00:04:34,700 --> 00:04:35,734 AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF HUNDREDS 170 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,333 AND HUNDREDS OF VIDEOS. 171 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:38,600 AND WE'RE TAPING THIS SATURDAY 172 00:04:38,667 --> 00:04:40,033 MORNING -- WHO KNOWS WHAT'LL 173 00:04:40,100 --> 00:04:41,100 HAVE HAPPENED BY SUNDAY NIGHT? 174 00:04:41,166 --> 00:04:42,533 MAYBE THEY'LL BE USING GRENADES, 175 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:43,967 EVEN AS "THE NEW YORK TIMES" 176 00:04:44,033 --> 00:04:46,033 WEIGHS IN WITH AN OP-ED TITLED, 177 00:04:46,100 --> 00:04:46,967 "WHY WE NEED TO BRING HITLER 178 00:04:47,033 --> 00:04:48,000 BACK TO LIFE AS A ROBOT RIGHT 179 00:04:48,066 --> 00:04:48,967 NOW." 180 00:04:49,033 --> 00:04:50,467 THEY JUST THINK IT'S VALUABLE 181 00:04:50,533 --> 00:04:51,800 YOU READ THAT POINT OF VIEW. 182 00:04:51,867 --> 00:04:53,300 I MEAN, THEY DIDN'T, BUT THEY 183 00:04:53,367 --> 00:04:55,033 THINK THAT YOU REALLY SHOULD. 184 00:04:55,100 --> 00:04:56,433 AND LOOK, FOR ANY VIEWERS 185 00:04:56,500 --> 00:04:58,200 SITTING AT HOME, SHOCKED BY 186 00:04:58,266 --> 00:04:59,166 THE SCENES OF POLICE BRUTALITY, 187 00:04:59,233 --> 00:05:00,166 I GET IT. 188 00:05:00,233 --> 00:05:01,500 I'M WHITE, TOO. 189 00:05:01,567 --> 00:05:02,333 BUT IT'S WORTH REMEMBERING, 190 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:03,333 THAT'S THE TIP OF A VERY LARGE 191 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,433 ICEBERG. 192 00:05:05,500 --> 00:05:07,033 IT DIDN'T START THIS WEEK, OR 193 00:05:07,100 --> 00:05:08,500 WITH THIS PRESIDENT, AND IT 194 00:05:08,567 --> 00:05:10,467 ALWAYS DISPROPORTIONATELY FALLS 195 00:05:10,500 --> 00:05:11,367 ON BLACK COMMUNITIES. 196 00:05:11,433 --> 00:05:13,800 BECAUSE HERE ARE SOME HARD 197 00:05:13,867 --> 00:05:15,166 FACTS: IN MINNEAPOLIS, WHERE 198 00:05:15,233 --> 00:05:16,967 GEORGE FLOYD WAS MURDERED, 199 00:05:17,033 --> 00:05:18,166 POLICE USE FORCE AGAINST 200 00:05:18,233 --> 00:05:19,467 BLACK PEOPLE AT 7 TIMES THE RATE 201 00:05:19,533 --> 00:05:20,767 OF WHITES. 202 00:05:20,834 --> 00:05:22,166 BLACK AMERICANS ARE 2.5 TIMES 203 00:05:22,233 --> 00:05:23,734 MORE LIKELY THAN WHITES TO BE 204 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,867 KILLED BY POLICE. 205 00:05:26,934 --> 00:05:30,367 AND ABOUT ONE AND EVERY THOUSAND 206 00:05:30,433 --> 00:05:31,100 BLACK MEN CAN EXPECT TO BE 207 00:05:31,166 --> 00:05:33,400 KILLED BY POLICE. 208 00:05:33,467 --> 00:05:34,567 IF YOU ARE BLACK IN AMERICA, 209 00:05:34,633 --> 00:05:35,467 I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO IMAGINE 210 00:05:35,533 --> 00:05:36,400 HOW SCARED, ANGRY, AND EXHAUSTED 211 00:05:36,467 --> 00:05:36,934 YOU MUST FEEL. 212 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:37,600 NOT ONLY THIS WEEK, 213 00:05:37,667 --> 00:05:39,200 BUT CONSTANTLY. 214 00:05:39,266 --> 00:05:40,934 MEDICAL GROUPS SAY POLICE 215 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,000 VIOLENCE AGAINST BLACK AND BROWN 216 00:05:42,066 --> 00:05:43,133 AMERICANS IS JUST ONE OF MANY 217 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,400 PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL 218 00:05:44,467 --> 00:05:45,600 FACTORS THAT MAKE RACISM 219 00:05:45,667 --> 00:05:47,500 A SERIOUS PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. 220 00:05:47,567 --> 00:05:49,200 AND LOOK: CLEARLY, THE POLICE 221 00:05:49,266 --> 00:05:50,700 ARE JUST ONE PART OF A MUCH 222 00:05:50,767 --> 00:05:51,834 LARGER SYSTEM OF RACIAL 223 00:05:51,900 --> 00:05:53,667 INEQUALITY. 224 00:05:53,734 --> 00:05:55,500 BUT FOR TONIGHT, WE ARE GOING 225 00:05:55,567 --> 00:05:57,133 TO FOCUS PRIMARILY ON THEM, 226 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,400 AND TRY TO ADDRESS THREE BASIC 227 00:05:58,467 --> 00:06:00,000 QUESTIONS: HOW THE FUCK WE GOT 228 00:06:00,066 --> 00:06:02,400 TO THIS POINT, WHAT THE 229 00:06:02,467 --> 00:06:04,033 OBSTACLES TO REFORM HAVE BEEN, 230 00:06:04,100 --> 00:06:04,934 AND WHAT WE CAN DO GOING 231 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,500 FORWARD. 232 00:06:06,567 --> 00:06:08,166 AND LET'S START BY ACKNOWLEDGING 233 00:06:08,233 --> 00:06:09,367 THE POLICE HAVE LONG ENJOYED 234 00:06:09,433 --> 00:06:10,333 AN EXALTED ROLE IN AMERICAN 235 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:11,767 SOCIETY. 236 00:06:11,834 --> 00:06:15,100 IN POP CULTURE, THEY'RE THE 237 00:06:15,166 --> 00:06:16,934 HEROES OF BELOVED MOVIES AND 238 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:17,900 TV SHOWS LIKE, "CRANKY GUN 239 00:06:17,967 --> 00:06:18,667 GRANDPA," AND "COCAINE COPS WHO 240 00:06:18,734 --> 00:06:19,967 FUCK," AND "MANIC BIGOT AND HIS 241 00:06:20,033 --> 00:06:21,500 ONE BLACK FRIEND." 242 00:06:21,567 --> 00:06:23,333 AMERICA LOVES NOTHING MORE THAN 243 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,500 A RENEGADE COP WHO DOESN'T PLAY 244 00:06:24,567 --> 00:06:28,633 BY THE RULES. 245 00:06:28,700 --> 00:06:29,834 BUT, OF COURSE, THE REALITY OF 246 00:06:29,900 --> 00:06:30,633 POLICING IS -- AND HAS ALWAYS 247 00:06:30,700 --> 00:06:31,700 BEEN -- VERY DIFFERENT. 248 00:06:31,767 --> 00:06:33,033 AND IT MIGHT BE WORTH GOING 249 00:06:33,100 --> 00:06:34,667 THROUGH SOME OF THE HISTORY 250 00:06:34,734 --> 00:06:35,867 HERE, BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO 251 00:06:35,934 --> 00:06:36,867 UNDERSTAND HOW DEEPLY POLICING 252 00:06:36,934 --> 00:06:38,467 IN THIS COUNTRY IS ENTANGLED 253 00:06:38,533 --> 00:06:40,033 WITH WHITE SUPREMACY. 254 00:06:40,100 --> 00:06:44,934 AND I KNOW YOU MIGHT BE 255 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:45,767 THINKING: WELL, JOIN THE CLUB, 256 00:06:45,834 --> 00:06:46,333 POLICING. 257 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:47,233 THIS IS AMERICA. 258 00:06:47,300 --> 00:06:48,200 THE ONLY INSTITUTION NOT DEEPLY 259 00:06:48,266 --> 00:06:49,967 ENTANGLED WITH THE HISTORY OF 260 00:06:50,033 --> 00:06:50,600 WHITE SUPREMACY IS OLIVE GARDEN. 261 00:06:50,667 --> 00:06:51,367 AND THAT'S ONLY BECAUSE IT'S 262 00:06:51,433 --> 00:06:52,200 ALWAYS BEEN A POWERFUL SYMBOL OF 263 00:06:52,266 --> 00:06:53,200 WHITE INFERIORITY. 264 00:06:53,266 --> 00:06:54,400 BUT THE POLICE HAVE NOT JUST 265 00:06:54,467 --> 00:06:55,166 BEEN INCIDENTALLY TAINTED BY 266 00:06:55,233 --> 00:06:57,000 RACISM. 267 00:06:57,066 --> 00:06:58,934 FOR MUCH OF U.S. HISTORY, 268 00:06:59,000 --> 00:06:59,934 "LAW ENFORCEMENT" MEANT 269 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,200 ENFORCING LAWS THAT WERE 270 00:07:01,266 --> 00:07:02,133 EXPLICITLY DESIGNED TO SUBJUGATE 271 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,033 BLACK PEOPLE. 272 00:07:04,100 --> 00:07:06,367 SOME OF AMERICA'S FIRST 273 00:07:06,433 --> 00:07:07,200 LAW ENFORCEMENT UNITS WERE 274 00:07:07,266 --> 00:07:08,367 THE SLAVE PATROLS TASKED WITH 275 00:07:08,433 --> 00:07:09,266 CAPTURING AND RETURNING PEOPLE 276 00:07:09,333 --> 00:07:10,467 WHO'D ESCAPED FROM SLAVERY. 277 00:07:10,533 --> 00:07:12,367 AND WHEN SLAVERY ENDED, 278 00:07:12,433 --> 00:07:14,200 WHITE PEOPLE HAD NO INTENTION OF 279 00:07:14,266 --> 00:07:15,500 LETTING THAT BE THE END 280 00:07:15,567 --> 00:07:16,900 OF WHITE POWER. 281 00:07:16,967 --> 00:07:18,400 AS ONE ALABAMA PLANTER SAID IN 282 00:07:18,467 --> 00:07:20,233 THE WAKE OF EMANCIPATION: 283 00:07:20,300 --> 00:07:22,367 "WE HAVE THE POWER TO PASS 284 00:07:22,433 --> 00:07:24,333 STRINGENT POLICE LAWS TO GOVERN 285 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:25,633 THE NEGROES -- THIS IS A 286 00:07:25,700 --> 00:07:26,900 BLESSING -- FOR THEY MUST BE 287 00:07:26,967 --> 00:07:28,000 CONTROLLED IN SOME WAY OR WHITE 288 00:07:28,066 --> 00:07:29,200 PEOPLE CANNOT LIVE AMONG THEM." 289 00:07:29,266 --> 00:07:30,033 AND I KNOW THAT'S UNCOMFORTABLE 290 00:07:30,100 --> 00:07:31,133 TO HEAR. 291 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,467 IT'S CERTAINLY UNCOMFORTABLE 292 00:07:32,533 --> 00:07:34,233 FOR ME TO SAY. 293 00:07:34,300 --> 00:07:35,900 BUT IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW 294 00:07:35,967 --> 00:07:37,433 WE GOT HERE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO 295 00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:39,000 REMEMBER THAT WE GOT HERE ON 296 00:07:39,066 --> 00:07:40,800 PURPOSE. 297 00:07:40,867 --> 00:07:42,300 NOW, FOR A CENTURY AFTER THAT, 298 00:07:42,367 --> 00:07:43,266 POLICE IN THE SOUTH WERE 299 00:07:43,333 --> 00:07:44,734 RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCING 300 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:45,900 SEGREGATION, WHILE ALLOWING -- 301 00:07:45,967 --> 00:07:47,433 AND SOMETIMES PARTICIPATING IN 302 00:07:47,500 --> 00:07:48,433 -- LYNCHINGS AND ANTI-BLACK 303 00:07:48,500 --> 00:07:49,600 TERRORISM. 304 00:07:49,667 --> 00:07:50,967 AND AS BLACK PEOPLE MIGRATED 305 00:07:51,033 --> 00:07:52,367 TO THE NORTH BY THE MILLIONS, 306 00:07:52,433 --> 00:07:53,867 THEY WERE MET THERE, YET AGAIN, 307 00:07:53,934 --> 00:07:55,133 BY BRUTALITY. 308 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:56,834 AND ALL OF THIS -- COUPLED WITH 309 00:07:56,900 --> 00:07:58,300 THE CONTINUED DENIAL OF ECONOMIC 310 00:07:58,367 --> 00:07:59,767 AND HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, NOT 311 00:07:59,834 --> 00:08:01,767 ALWAYS PARTICULARLY SUBTLE, BY 312 00:08:01,834 --> 00:08:03,734 THE WAY -- MEANT THAT, BY THE 313 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,300 SUMMER OF 1967, THERE WERE A 314 00:08:05,367 --> 00:08:06,533 SERIES OF HIGH-PROFILE UPRISINGS 315 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,700 AGAINST RACIAL INJUSTICE ACROSS 316 00:08:08,767 --> 00:08:12,667 THE UNITED STATES -- OR AS 317 00:08:12,734 --> 00:08:13,500 WHITE PEOPLE ACTUALLY DESCRIBE 318 00:08:13,567 --> 00:08:14,467 THAT EXACT TIME: 319 00:08:14,533 --> 00:08:16,400 >> THE SUMMER OF 1967. 320 00:08:16,467 --> 00:08:17,533 IT IS KNOWN AS THE 321 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,100 "SUMMER OF LOVE." 322 00:08:19,166 --> 00:08:21,900 >> John: YEAH, IT IS. 323 00:08:21,967 --> 00:08:23,133 AND THAT'S A PRETTY BIG 324 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,734 DISCONNECT. 325 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,400 AND IT HONESTLY MAKES ME 326 00:08:26,467 --> 00:08:27,700 SLIGHTLY WORRY THAT WHAT'S 327 00:08:27,767 --> 00:08:29,700 HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WILL BE 328 00:08:29,767 --> 00:08:31,200 REMEMBERED BY WHITE HISTORIANS 329 00:08:31,266 --> 00:08:32,233 AS "THE SUMMER OF CHROMATICA." 330 00:08:32,300 --> 00:08:33,633 AND LOOK, THINGS DID NOT IMPROVE 331 00:08:33,700 --> 00:08:34,900 FROM THE '60s ONWARD. 332 00:08:34,967 --> 00:08:36,133 NIXON PLEDGED FEALTY TO 333 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,333 LAW AND ORDER AND STARTED THE 334 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,967 WAR ON DRUGS, WHICH REAGAN LATER 335 00:08:39,033 --> 00:08:41,100 TURBO-CHARGED, AND, BY THE TIME 336 00:08:41,166 --> 00:08:41,734 WE GOT TO THE '90s, A SCHOOL OF 337 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,266 THOUGHT CALLED "BROKEN WINDOWS" 338 00:08:43,333 --> 00:08:45,500 OR "ZERO TOLERANCE" POLICING HAD 339 00:08:45,567 --> 00:08:46,834 STARTED TO TAKE ROOT, WHICH HELD 340 00:08:46,900 --> 00:08:48,000 THAT, IF MINOR CRIMES ARE LEFT 341 00:08:48,066 --> 00:08:49,433 UNATTENDED, IT WILL LEAD TO MORE 342 00:08:49,500 --> 00:08:50,500 SERIOUS CRIMES. 343 00:08:50,567 --> 00:08:51,533 THEREFORE, POLICE HAD BETTER 344 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,400 CRACK DOWN ON THOSE MINOR 345 00:08:54,467 --> 00:08:54,667 OFFENSES. 346 00:08:54,734 --> 00:08:56,266 THAT FUELED THE SATURATION OF 347 00:08:56,333 --> 00:08:58,600 POLICE IN LOW-INCOME COMMUNITIES 348 00:08:58,667 --> 00:09:00,166 OF COLOR, AND GAVE WAY TO 349 00:09:00,233 --> 00:09:01,600 POLICIES LIKE STOP-AND-FRISK, 350 00:09:01,667 --> 00:09:02,600 WHICH ESSENTIALLY ALLOWED 351 00:09:02,667 --> 00:09:03,600 POLICE OFFICERS TO SEARCH PEOPLE 352 00:09:03,667 --> 00:09:04,633 AT RANDOM. 353 00:09:04,700 --> 00:09:06,867 AT THAT POLICY'S PEAK, IN 2011, 354 00:09:06,934 --> 00:09:09,233 OF THE NEARLY 700,000 STOPS 355 00:09:09,300 --> 00:09:11,333 RECORDED IN NEW YORK, 356 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:12,967 THE VAST MAJORITY WERE OF BLACK 357 00:09:13,033 --> 00:09:16,433 AND LATINO PEOPLE. 358 00:09:16,500 --> 00:09:17,533 OR, TO PUT THAT ANOTHER WAY, 359 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:18,300 THOSE POLICIES, TOO OFTEN, 360 00:09:18,367 --> 00:09:19,700 BASICALLY AMOUNTED TO THIS 361 00:09:19,767 --> 00:09:21,433 FUCKING BULLSHIT, JUST UNDER 362 00:09:21,500 --> 00:09:23,166 A DIFFERENT NAME. 363 00:09:23,233 --> 00:09:24,934 AND THAT SORT OF AGGRESSIVE 364 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,400 POLICING WAS ACCOMPANIED BY 365 00:09:26,467 --> 00:09:27,900 CONSTANT CALLS TO INCREASE 366 00:09:27,967 --> 00:09:31,734 THE NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS 367 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:32,100 ON THE STREETS. 368 00:09:32,166 --> 00:09:32,867 AND LET'S BE CLEAR: DEMOCRATS 369 00:09:32,934 --> 00:09:35,066 WERE VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN THAT, 370 00:09:35,133 --> 00:09:36,266 FROM BIG-CITY MAYORS ALL THE WAY 371 00:09:36,333 --> 00:09:38,000 ON UP TO THIS GUY: 372 00:09:38,066 --> 00:09:40,200 >> AN INITIATIVE TO PUT 100,000 373 00:09:40,266 --> 00:09:41,166 MORE POLICE OFFICERS ON THE 374 00:09:41,233 --> 00:09:41,900 STREET. 375 00:09:41,967 --> 00:09:44,967 >> MORE PRISONS, MORE 376 00:09:45,033 --> 00:09:46,367 PREVENTION, 100,000 MORE POLICE. 377 00:09:46,433 --> 00:09:48,533 >> 100,000 NEW POLICE IN 378 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,200 COMMUNITIES OF ALL SIZES. 379 00:09:51,266 --> 00:09:52,867 >> WE NEED TO FINISH THE JOB OF 380 00:09:52,934 --> 00:09:54,400 PUTTING 100,000 MORE POLICE ON 381 00:09:54,467 --> 00:09:54,767 OUR STREETS. 382 00:09:54,834 --> 00:09:56,767 >> LAST FALL, CONGRESS SUPPORTED 383 00:09:56,834 --> 00:09:58,934 MY PLAN TO HIRE, IN ADDITION TO 384 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,767 THE 100,000 COMMUNITY POLICE 385 00:10:00,834 --> 00:10:02,667 WE'VE ALREADY FUNDED, 50,000 386 00:10:02,734 --> 00:10:03,333 MORE, CONCENTRATED IN HIGH-CRIME 387 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:04,467 NEIGHBORHOODS. 388 00:10:04,533 --> 00:10:05,633 >> John: YEAH, THANKS VERY MUCH, 389 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:07,934 CONGRESS. 390 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:08,667 100,000 POLICE OFFICERS ISN'T 391 00:10:08,734 --> 00:10:09,433 COOL. 392 00:10:09,500 --> 00:10:10,600 YOU KNOW WHAT'S COOL? 393 00:10:10,667 --> 00:10:11,633 MASSIVELY EXPANDING A BROKEN 394 00:10:11,700 --> 00:10:12,700 INSTITUTION TO SCORE CHEAP 395 00:10:12,767 --> 00:10:14,133 POLITICAL POINTS. 396 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:15,233 AND IF YOU CAN DO THAT WHILE 397 00:10:15,300 --> 00:10:17,867 PLAYING THE SAXOPHONE, WELL, 398 00:10:17,934 --> 00:10:20,367 THAT JUST GETS EVEN COOLER. 399 00:10:20,433 --> 00:10:21,567 AND ALL THE WHILE, AS WE WERE 400 00:10:21,633 --> 00:10:22,800 CONTINUING TO BOOST FUNDING FOR 401 00:10:22,867 --> 00:10:23,900 POLICE AND GIVE THEM MORE 402 00:10:23,967 --> 00:10:24,967 AUTHORITY, WE WERE 403 00:10:25,033 --> 00:10:26,100 SIMULTANEOUSLY SLASHING SPENDING 404 00:10:26,166 --> 00:10:28,600 ON KEY SOCIAL SERVICES. 405 00:10:28,667 --> 00:10:29,967 THAT MEANT THAT, IN MANY 406 00:10:30,033 --> 00:10:31,133 COMMUNITIES, THE POLICE WERE 407 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,533 THE ONLY ONES LEFT TO HANDLE 408 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,133 ALMOST ANY ISSUE PEOPLE HAD. 409 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,467 WHICH IS A REAL PROBLEM, AS THIS 410 00:10:35,533 --> 00:10:37,333 FORMER DALLAS POLICE CHIEF 411 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:38,800 READILY ADMITS. 412 00:10:38,867 --> 00:10:39,867 >> WE'RE ASKING COPS TO DO TOO 413 00:10:39,934 --> 00:10:42,300 MUCH IN THIS COUNTRY. 414 00:10:42,367 --> 00:10:42,533 WE ARE. 415 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:43,100 WE'RE JUST ASKING US TO DO 416 00:10:43,166 --> 00:10:44,533 TOO MUCH. 417 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,934 EVERY SOCIETAL FAILURE, WE PUT 418 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,433 IT OFF ON THE COPS TO SOLVE. 419 00:10:48,500 --> 00:10:51,767 NOT ENOUGH MENTAL HEALTH 420 00:10:51,834 --> 00:10:54,500 FUNDING, "LET THE COP HANDLE 421 00:10:54,567 --> 00:10:54,667 IT." 422 00:10:54,734 --> 00:10:55,433 NOT ENOUGH DRUG ADDICTION 423 00:10:55,500 --> 00:10:56,266 FUNDING, "LET'S GIVE IT TO THE 424 00:10:56,333 --> 00:10:57,934 COPS." 425 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:58,867 HERE IN DALLAS, WE GOT A LOOSE 426 00:10:58,934 --> 00:11:00,000 DOG PROBLEM. 427 00:11:00,066 --> 00:11:01,367 "LET'S HAVE THE COPS CHASE LOOSE 428 00:11:01,433 --> 00:11:02,934 DOGS." 429 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,200 >> John: AND YOU KNOW WHAT? 430 00:11:04,266 --> 00:11:05,967 HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 431 00:11:06,033 --> 00:11:07,000 WE ARE ASKING POLICE TO DO FAR 432 00:11:07,066 --> 00:11:08,533 TOO MUCH. 433 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,033 THEY HAVE A MASSIVE ARRAY OF 434 00:11:10,100 --> 00:11:11,266 COMPLICATED DUTIES THAT, IN MANY 435 00:11:11,333 --> 00:11:12,934 CASES, THEY JUST AREN'T EQUIPPED 436 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,400 TO HANDLE -- MAKING THEM VERY 437 00:11:14,467 --> 00:11:15,433 MUCH THE JARED KUSHNERS OF LOCAL 438 00:11:15,500 --> 00:11:16,367 OFFICIALS. 439 00:11:16,433 --> 00:11:17,300 WITHOUT, OF COURSE, 440 00:11:17,367 --> 00:11:18,233 THE EXPRESSION, COMPLEXION, 441 00:11:18,300 --> 00:11:19,200 AND GENERAL DEMEANOR OF 442 00:11:19,266 --> 00:11:21,000 A HAUNTED BABY. 443 00:11:21,066 --> 00:11:22,900 SO WHILE WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE 444 00:11:22,967 --> 00:11:24,867 ANGRY AT THE POLICE RIGHT NOW, 445 00:11:24,934 --> 00:11:26,367 LET'S ALSO BE ANGRY AT 446 00:11:26,433 --> 00:11:28,066 THE SERIES OF CHOICES THAT 447 00:11:28,133 --> 00:11:29,600 LEFT THEM AS ESSENTIALLY 448 00:11:29,667 --> 00:11:30,433 THE ONLY PUBLIC RESOURCE 449 00:11:30,500 --> 00:11:35,433 IN SOME COMMUNITIES. 450 00:11:35,500 --> 00:11:36,433 AND ON TOP OF ALL OF THAT, WE'VE 451 00:11:36,500 --> 00:11:37,834 MADE THOSE BAD CHOICES EVEN MORE 452 00:11:37,900 --> 00:11:38,467 DANGEROUS IN RECENT YEARS 453 00:11:38,533 --> 00:11:39,467 BY NEEDLESSLY ARMING POLICE 454 00:11:39,533 --> 00:11:40,867 TO THE FUCKING TEETH. 455 00:11:40,934 --> 00:11:42,734 AS WE DISCUSSED SIX YEARS AGO, 456 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,700 WE'VE ISSUED THE POLICE LITERAL 457 00:11:44,767 --> 00:11:46,967 MILITARY GRADE EQUIPMENT, SOME 458 00:11:47,033 --> 00:11:47,567 OF WHICH YOU HAVE SEEN USED TO 459 00:11:47,633 --> 00:11:48,633 CONTROL AND INTIMIDATE 460 00:11:48,700 --> 00:11:49,834 PROTESTORS THIS WEEK. 461 00:11:49,900 --> 00:11:50,900 AND IT'S FRANKLY NOT JUST THE 462 00:11:50,967 --> 00:11:52,433 HARDWARE THAT'S A PROBLEM HERE. 463 00:11:52,500 --> 00:11:55,166 BECAUSE A WHOLE SUB-INDUSTRY OF 464 00:11:55,233 --> 00:11:56,200 POLICE TRAINING HAS ALSO CROPPED 465 00:11:56,266 --> 00:11:57,633 UP TO REINFORCE THE MESSAGE THAT 466 00:11:57,700 --> 00:11:59,100 COPS ARE AT WAR. 467 00:11:59,166 --> 00:12:01,400 AND PERHAPS NO ONE TAKES THAT 468 00:12:01,467 --> 00:12:03,567 IDEA FURTHER THAN THIS GUY. 469 00:12:03,633 --> 00:12:07,166 >> ONCE YOU'VE MADE THE DECISION 470 00:12:07,233 --> 00:12:08,433 TO TAKE A HUMAN LIFE, YOU'RE A 471 00:12:08,500 --> 00:12:09,834 TRANSFORMED CREATURE, YOU'RE A 472 00:12:09,900 --> 00:12:12,100 PREDATOR. 473 00:12:12,166 --> 00:12:14,066 WHAT DOES A PREDATOR DO? 474 00:12:14,133 --> 00:12:15,867 THEY KILL. 475 00:12:15,934 --> 00:12:21,500 ONLY A KILLER CAN HUNT A KILLER. 476 00:12:21,567 --> 00:12:23,934 ARE YOU EMOTIONALLY, 477 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,834 SPIRITUALLY, PSYCHOLOGICALLY 478 00:12:25,900 --> 00:12:26,433 PREPARED TO SNUFF OUT A HUMAN 479 00:12:26,500 --> 00:12:27,800 LIFE IN DEFENSE OF INNOCENT 480 00:12:27,867 --> 00:12:30,867 LIVES? 481 00:12:30,934 --> 00:12:35,767 IF YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT DECISION, 482 00:12:35,834 --> 00:12:38,266 YOU NEED TO FIND ANOTHER JOB. 483 00:12:38,333 --> 00:12:40,800 >> John: WOW. 484 00:12:40,867 --> 00:12:42,633 THE PROBLEM WITH TELLING SOMEONE 485 00:12:42,700 --> 00:12:43,700 THEY'RE A PREDATOR IS THAT IT 486 00:12:43,767 --> 00:12:45,000 PRIMES THEM TO SEE THE REST OF 487 00:12:45,066 --> 00:12:47,000 THE WORLD AS POTENTIAL PREY. 488 00:12:47,066 --> 00:12:48,400 OF COURSE COPS WHO WENT THROUGH 489 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:49,367 THIS TRAINING COULD WIND UP ON 490 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:50,533 EDGE. 491 00:12:50,567 --> 00:12:52,100 YOU WOULDN'T TRAIN A BARBER BY 492 00:12:52,166 --> 00:12:53,567 SAYING, "HERE ARE YOUR SCISSORS, 493 00:12:53,633 --> 00:12:54,567 SNIP LIKE THIS, AND OH, YEAH, 494 00:12:54,633 --> 00:12:55,333 THIS IS HOW TO PUNCTURE 495 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,033 THE CAROTID ARTERY. 496 00:12:58,100 --> 00:12:59,734 NOW, YOU WON'T NEED TO USE THIS 497 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:00,934 99% OF THE TIME, BUT IF YOU 498 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:01,900 DON'T THINK YOU CAN MAKE THAT 499 00:13:01,967 --> 00:13:02,900 DECISION, YOU NEED TO FIND 500 00:13:02,967 --> 00:13:04,033 ANOTHER JOB." 501 00:13:04,100 --> 00:13:06,367 THAT GROSS MAN IS ACTUALLY 502 00:13:06,433 --> 00:13:07,367 CALLED DAVE GROSSMAN, AND HE 503 00:13:07,433 --> 00:13:08,967 CALLS HIMSELF AN EXPERT IN 504 00:13:09,033 --> 00:13:12,633 "KILLOLOGY," A TERM HE INVENTED, 505 00:13:12,700 --> 00:13:14,066 AND DEFINES AS THE SCHOLARLY 506 00:13:14,133 --> 00:13:15,233 STUDY OF THE DESTRUCTIVE ACT, 507 00:13:15,300 --> 00:13:16,033 JUST AS SEXOLOGY IS THE 508 00:13:16,100 --> 00:13:16,767 SCHOLARLY STUDY OF THE 509 00:13:16,834 --> 00:13:19,500 PROCREATIVE ACT. 510 00:13:19,567 --> 00:13:21,166 WHICH: UGH. 511 00:13:21,233 --> 00:13:23,133 AND ALSO: I'M PRETTY SURE THE 512 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:24,800 FIRST LESSON IN SEXOLOGY IS 513 00:13:24,867 --> 00:13:26,900 "NEVER CALL SEX THE PROCREATIVE 514 00:13:26,967 --> 00:13:28,033 ACT, IF YOU WANT ANYONE TO 515 00:13:28,100 --> 00:13:29,033 PROCREATIVELY ACT WITH YOU EVER 516 00:13:29,100 --> 00:13:30,300 AGAIN." 517 00:13:30,367 --> 00:13:31,767 AND AS BATSHIT AS GROSSMAN IS, 518 00:13:31,834 --> 00:13:33,233 HE'S BY NO MEANS A FRINGE FIGURE 519 00:13:33,300 --> 00:13:34,600 IN POLICE CULTURE. 520 00:13:34,667 --> 00:13:35,767 HE'S ON THE ROAD GIVING 521 00:13:35,834 --> 00:13:37,867 TRAININGS 200 DAYS A YEAR. 522 00:13:37,934 --> 00:13:38,700 THE OFFICER WHO SHOT 523 00:13:38,767 --> 00:13:41,000 PHILANDO CASTILE HAD TAKEN 524 00:13:41,066 --> 00:13:42,467 A CLASS BASED ON GROSSMAN'S 525 00:13:42,533 --> 00:13:43,333 THEORIES. 526 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:44,233 AND WHEN, IN THE WAKE OF THAT 527 00:13:44,300 --> 00:13:46,533 SHOOTING, THE MINNEAPOLIS MAYOR 528 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:47,734 BANNED OFFICERS FROM 529 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,300 PARTICIPATING IN WARRIOR-STYLE 530 00:13:49,367 --> 00:13:49,900 TRAINING, THE HEAD OF 531 00:13:49,967 --> 00:13:51,233 THE POLICE UNION THERE, 532 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:52,467 BOB KROLL, ANNOUNCED PLANS 533 00:13:52,533 --> 00:13:54,533 TO DEFY THAT DECISION. 534 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,266 >> IF THEY DEEM THAT THIS 535 00:13:56,333 --> 00:13:58,100 TRAINING IS IN VIOLATION AND 536 00:13:58,166 --> 00:13:59,367 THEY'RE ON THEIR OWN TIME AND 537 00:13:59,433 --> 00:14:01,700 THEY WANT TO ATTEND IT, I'M 538 00:14:01,767 --> 00:14:02,467 GONNA ENCOURAGE OFFICERS TO 539 00:14:02,533 --> 00:14:03,333 DO IT. 540 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:04,166 I MYSELF WILL BE THE FIRST ONE 541 00:14:04,233 --> 00:14:05,000 TO DO IT. 542 00:14:05,066 --> 00:14:06,200 IF I WOULD BE DISCIPLINED, 543 00:14:06,266 --> 00:14:09,266 IT WOULD NEVER BE UPHELD. 544 00:14:09,333 --> 00:14:11,200 >> John: I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW 545 00:14:11,266 --> 00:14:12,567 WHAT'S MORE ALARMING THERE: HIS 546 00:14:12,633 --> 00:14:13,166 DETERMINATION TO TRAIN POLICE 547 00:14:13,233 --> 00:14:14,500 OFFICERS TO BE PREDATORS, HIS 548 00:14:14,567 --> 00:14:15,233 AIR OF CASUAL IMPUNITY, OR THE 549 00:14:15,300 --> 00:14:17,433 FACT THAT HE HAS A SIGN IN HIS 550 00:14:17,500 --> 00:14:18,433 OFFICE THAT SAYS "LET ME DROP 551 00:14:18,500 --> 00:14:19,233 "EVERYTHING" AND WORK ON YOUR 552 00:14:19,300 --> 00:14:20,133 PROBLEM." 553 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,133 WHICH IS ALWAYS THE OFFICE DECOR 554 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:23,266 CHOICE OF A GRADE-A ASSHOLE, BUT 555 00:14:23,333 --> 00:14:25,467 ESPECIALLY IF IT'S SOMEONE WHOSE 556 00:14:25,533 --> 00:14:26,433 ACTUAL JOB IS TO WORK ON OTHER 557 00:14:26,500 --> 00:14:28,367 PEOPLE'S PROBLEMS. 558 00:14:28,433 --> 00:14:29,734 AND THAT CONFIDENCE THAT HE'S 559 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:34,066 ABOVE PUNISHMENT ACTUALLY BRINGS 560 00:14:34,133 --> 00:14:35,400 US TO THE SECOND POINT WE WANT 561 00:14:35,467 --> 00:14:35,967 TO LOOK AT TONIGHT: WHAT THE 562 00:14:36,033 --> 00:14:36,600 MAJOR OBSTACLES TO REFORM HAVE 563 00:14:36,667 --> 00:14:37,200 BEEN. 564 00:14:37,266 --> 00:14:38,867 BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIGGEST 565 00:14:38,934 --> 00:14:40,667 ISSUES IS POLICE UNIONS. 566 00:14:40,734 --> 00:14:42,100 EVEN IN CITIES WHERE THE MAYOR 567 00:14:42,166 --> 00:14:42,834 AND POLICE CHIEF SAY ALL THE 568 00:14:42,900 --> 00:14:44,667 RIGHT THINGS, IT'S IMPORTANT 569 00:14:44,734 --> 00:14:48,600 TO KNOW THAT THE UNION CAN STOP 570 00:14:48,667 --> 00:14:49,500 WHATEVER THEY ARE PROPOSING 571 00:14:49,567 --> 00:14:50,333 DEAD IN ITS TRACKS. 572 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:51,266 AND UNIONS CAN MAKE IT 573 00:14:51,333 --> 00:14:52,100 INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT 574 00:14:52,166 --> 00:14:53,533 TO DISCIPLINE OFFICERS, 575 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,233 EVEN FOR EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT. 576 00:14:55,300 --> 00:14:56,700 TAKE WHAT HAPPENED IN 577 00:14:56,767 --> 00:14:58,533 MINNEAPOLIS, WITH TWO OFFICERS 578 00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:59,400 WHO BELONG TO OUR FRIEND BOB'S 579 00:14:59,467 --> 00:15:00,200 UNION. 580 00:15:00,266 --> 00:15:01,967 >> TWO MINNEAPOLIS POLICE 581 00:15:02,033 --> 00:15:04,166 OFFICERS ARE ON PAID LEAVE FOR 582 00:15:04,233 --> 00:15:05,934 ALLEGEDLY DECORATING A CHRISTMAS 583 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,433 TREE AT THE 4TH PRECINCT WITH 584 00:15:07,500 --> 00:15:08,300 A BUNCH OF ITEMS THAT ARE VIEWED 585 00:15:08,367 --> 00:15:09,967 AS RACIST. 586 00:15:10,033 --> 00:15:12,767 BAGS OF HOT TAKI CHIPS, A CUP 587 00:15:12,834 --> 00:15:14,767 FROM POPEYES FRIED CHICKEN, 588 00:15:14,834 --> 00:15:16,767 MENTHOL CIGARETTES AND CANS OF 589 00:15:16,834 --> 00:15:20,500 MALT LIQUOR, AMONG OTHER THINGS. 590 00:15:20,567 --> 00:15:21,367 >> John: HOLY SHIT. 591 00:15:21,433 --> 00:15:22,500 THAT IS NOT JUST DISGUSTING, IT 592 00:15:22,567 --> 00:15:23,400 IS ALSO ARGUABLY THE MOST RACIST 593 00:15:23,467 --> 00:15:24,300 THING TO HAPPEN TO CHRISTMAS 594 00:15:24,367 --> 00:15:25,467 SINCE PEOPLE DECIDED THIS CHILD 595 00:15:25,533 --> 00:15:26,467 BORN IN THE MIDDLE EAST WAS 596 00:15:26,533 --> 00:15:28,367 WHITE. 597 00:15:28,433 --> 00:15:30,400 AND NOT ONLY DOES THAT INCIDENT 598 00:15:30,467 --> 00:15:31,433 RAISE SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT 599 00:15:31,500 --> 00:15:32,967 THOSE OFFICERS, IT ALSO 600 00:15:33,033 --> 00:15:34,567 IMPLICATES THE ENTIRE PRECINCT, 601 00:15:34,633 --> 00:15:35,967 BECAUSE THEY PRESUMABLY THOUGHT 602 00:15:36,033 --> 00:15:37,367 NONE OF THEIR COWORKERS WOULD 603 00:15:37,433 --> 00:15:38,200 HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT THEY 604 00:15:38,266 --> 00:15:38,667 DID. 605 00:15:38,734 --> 00:15:39,767 AND TO HIS CREDIT, 606 00:15:39,834 --> 00:15:41,233 WHEN THAT STORY BROKE, 607 00:15:41,300 --> 00:15:42,500 THE MAYOR OF MINNEAPOLIS 608 00:15:42,567 --> 00:15:45,200 ANNOUNCED THE OFFICERS 609 00:15:45,266 --> 00:15:48,133 RESPONSIBLE WOULD 610 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,100 BE FIRED BY THE END OF THE DAY 611 00:15:50,166 --> 00:15:51,000 ONLY TO ALMOST HAVE TO 612 00:15:51,066 --> 00:15:52,333 IMMEDIATELY WALK THAT STATEMENT 613 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,533 BACK, SAYING THERE WAS A PROCESS 614 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:54,533 THEY WERE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH 615 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:55,967 BY LAW. 616 00:15:56,033 --> 00:15:56,734 WE ACTUALLY CHECKED. 617 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,166 DESPITE THE FACT IT'S NOW BEEN A 618 00:15:58,233 --> 00:16:00,567 YEAR AND A HALF SINCE THAT 619 00:16:00,633 --> 00:16:02,200 HAPPENED, ONE OF THOSE OFFICERS' 620 00:16:02,266 --> 00:16:03,100 CASES IS STILL UNDER 621 00:16:03,166 --> 00:16:03,734 ARBITRATION. 622 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:04,700 AND, LOOK, I GET UNIONS FIGHTING 623 00:16:04,767 --> 00:16:05,967 FOR THEIR WORKERS -- THAT IS 624 00:16:06,033 --> 00:16:07,033 WHAT THEY DO. 625 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:08,433 BUT POLICE UNIONS TAKE THAT 626 00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:10,467 TO A DANGEROUS EXTREME, 627 00:16:10,533 --> 00:16:11,367 AND NEGOTIATE LANGUAGE INTO 628 00:16:11,433 --> 00:16:12,433 CONTRACTS THAT MAKES REMOVING 629 00:16:12,500 --> 00:16:14,834 A PROBLEM OFFICER INCREDIBLY 630 00:16:14,900 --> 00:16:15,100 DIFFICULT. 631 00:16:15,166 --> 00:16:16,233 A "WASHINGTON POST" ANALYSIS OF 632 00:16:16,300 --> 00:16:18,233 SOME OF THE NATION'S LARGEST 633 00:16:18,300 --> 00:16:22,867 POLICE DEPARTMENTS FOUND THAT 634 00:16:22,934 --> 00:16:24,333 THEY'D FIRED AT LEAST 1881 635 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:25,300 OFFICERS FOR MISCONDUCT, BUT 636 00:16:25,367 --> 00:16:27,066 WERE FORCED TO REINSTATE MORE 637 00:16:27,133 --> 00:16:28,100 THAN 450 OF THEM -- ALMOST 25% 638 00:16:28,166 --> 00:16:29,367 -- AFTER APPEALS REQUIRED BY 639 00:16:29,433 --> 00:16:31,467 THEIR UNION CONTRACTS. 640 00:16:31,533 --> 00:16:32,533 AND POLICE UNIONS CAN ALSO 641 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,033 OPPOSE EVEN THE MOST BASIC, 642 00:16:34,100 --> 00:16:35,400 COMMON-SENSE REFORM. 643 00:16:35,467 --> 00:16:37,600 A FEW YEARS BACK, THE CLEVELAND 644 00:16:37,667 --> 00:16:38,667 POLICE STARTED BEING REQUIRED 645 00:16:38,767 --> 00:16:40,033 TO FILE A REPORT EVERY TIME THEY 646 00:16:40,100 --> 00:16:42,767 UNHOLSTERED AND POINTED THEIR 647 00:16:42,867 --> 00:16:44,367 GUN AT SOMEONE, AND THEIR UNION 648 00:16:44,433 --> 00:16:46,433 HEAD WAS ABSOLUTELY FURIOUS. 649 00:16:46,500 --> 00:16:47,667 >> I'M AFRAID THAT OFFICERS ARE 650 00:16:47,734 --> 00:16:49,734 GONNA BE HESITANT TO PULL THEIR 651 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,867 GUN IN AN APPROPRIATE SITUATION 652 00:16:51,934 --> 00:16:53,333 BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA DO THE 653 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:54,767 PAPERWORK THAT'S GONNA BE 654 00:16:54,834 --> 00:16:55,400 ASSOCIATED WITH HAVING TO PULL 655 00:16:55,467 --> 00:16:56,000 YOUR GUN. 656 00:16:56,066 --> 00:16:57,900 >> John: OKAY, FIRST: 657 00:16:57,967 --> 00:16:59,734 THE IDEA THAT THE RISK OF 658 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,033 PAPERWORK IS A GREATER DETERRENT 659 00:17:02,100 --> 00:17:02,834 TO POLICE OFFICERS DRAWING THEIR 660 00:17:02,900 --> 00:17:03,633 GUN THAN THE RISK OF KILLING 661 00:17:03,700 --> 00:17:04,633 SOMEONE IS LEGITIMATELY 662 00:17:04,700 --> 00:17:05,934 TERRIFYING. 663 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,367 AND IT'S HARD TO TAKE THAT GLIB 664 00:17:07,433 --> 00:17:09,100 DISMISSAL FROM ANYONE, LET ALONE 665 00:17:09,166 --> 00:17:11,100 SOMEONE WHO LOOKS LIKE A BOILED 666 00:17:11,166 --> 00:17:12,100 MR. POTATO HEAD, OR AN ANGRY EGG 667 00:17:12,166 --> 00:17:14,100 WITH A MUSTACHE. 668 00:17:14,166 --> 00:17:14,834 AND I KNOW THOSE COMPARISONS 669 00:17:14,900 --> 00:17:15,467 PROBABLY MAKE HIM MAD, BUT 670 00:17:15,533 --> 00:17:16,533 WHAT'S HE GONNA DO, SHOOT ME? 671 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,100 I DON'T THINK SO! 672 00:17:18,166 --> 00:17:19,800 THINK OF THE PAPERWORK INVOLVED. 673 00:17:19,867 --> 00:17:21,200 AND THAT ATTITUDE IS 674 00:17:21,266 --> 00:17:23,033 PARTICULARLY HARD TO TAKE, 675 00:17:23,100 --> 00:17:24,867 CONSIDERING THAT JUST SIX MONTHS 676 00:17:24,934 --> 00:17:26,533 PREVIOUSLY, TAMIR RICE HAD BEEN 677 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:27,633 KILLED BY A CLEVELAND POLICE 678 00:17:27,700 --> 00:17:29,300 OFFICER. 679 00:17:29,367 --> 00:17:30,600 AND WHEN FACED WITH 680 00:17:30,667 --> 00:17:32,233 ACCOUNTABILITY THEY DON'T LIKE, 681 00:17:32,300 --> 00:17:34,200 UNIONS WILL OFTEN ISSUE THE 682 00:17:34,266 --> 00:17:35,533 ULTIMATE THREAT: TO SIMPLY PULL 683 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:36,800 BACK AND LET CRIME RISE. 684 00:17:36,867 --> 00:17:39,367 FOR INSTANCE, LISTEN TO HOW 685 00:17:39,433 --> 00:17:40,934 THE HEAD OF NEW YORK CITY'S 686 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,667 LARGEST POLICE UNION REACTED 687 00:17:42,734 --> 00:17:43,900 WHEN A JUDGE RECOMMENDED FIRING 688 00:17:43,967 --> 00:17:44,767 THE OFFICER WHOSE CHOKEHOLD LED 689 00:17:44,834 --> 00:17:46,567 TO THE DEATH OF ERIC GARNER. 690 00:17:46,633 --> 00:17:47,967 >> THE CRIMINAL ADVOCATES HAVE 691 00:17:48,033 --> 00:17:50,333 GOTTEN WHAT THEY WANT. 692 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,066 THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS FROZEN. 693 00:17:53,133 --> 00:17:55,333 THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN'T STOP 694 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:56,567 THE KILLERS, THEY CAN'T STOP 695 00:17:56,633 --> 00:17:59,200 THE CRIMINALS, THEY CAN'T 696 00:17:59,266 --> 00:18:02,100 EFFECTIVELY DO THEIR JOB. 697 00:18:02,166 --> 00:18:03,567 I'M SORRY TO SAY THAT WE HAVE TO 698 00:18:03,633 --> 00:18:04,834 TELL OUR POLICE OFFICERS, "TAKE 699 00:18:04,900 --> 00:18:06,500 IT A STEP SLOWER." 700 00:18:06,567 --> 00:18:07,400 >> John: "TAKE IT A STEP 701 00:18:07,467 --> 00:18:09,333 SLOWER." 702 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,200 HE JUST BASICALLY THREATENED 703 00:18:11,266 --> 00:18:12,900 INACTION AGAINST "THE KILLERS" 704 00:18:12,967 --> 00:18:14,333 AS A BARGAINING CHIP. 705 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,900 AND BESIDES THAT BEING MORALLY 706 00:18:15,967 --> 00:18:22,300 REPREHENSIBLE, IT'S A TOOL MOST 707 00:18:22,367 --> 00:18:23,967 LABOR UNIONS SIMPLY DON'T HAVE 708 00:18:24,033 --> 00:18:26,567 AT THEIR DISPOSAL. 709 00:18:26,633 --> 00:18:27,734 WHEN THE UNIONS REPRESENTING TV 710 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:28,600 WRITERS FIGHT FOR THEIR MEMBERS, 711 00:18:28,667 --> 00:18:29,700 THE WORST THING THEY CAN 712 00:18:29,767 --> 00:18:30,367 THREATEN THE PUBLIC WITH IS 713 00:18:30,433 --> 00:18:31,433 FEWER EPISODES OF "BULL," OR 714 00:18:31,500 --> 00:18:32,834 "THE BLACKLIST," OR THIS SHOW. 715 00:18:32,900 --> 00:18:33,800 AND THAT'S JUST NOT A COMPELLING 716 00:18:33,867 --> 00:18:34,633 ARGUMENT. 717 00:18:34,700 --> 00:18:36,400 AND THAT WASN'T EVEN AN EMPTY 718 00:18:36,467 --> 00:18:37,567 THREAT, BECAUSE FOLLOWING THAT 719 00:18:37,633 --> 00:18:38,500 STATEMENT, POLICING DID SLOW 720 00:18:38,567 --> 00:18:39,233 DOWN IN NEW YORK FOR A BIT 721 00:18:39,300 --> 00:18:39,867 LAST YEAR. 722 00:18:39,934 --> 00:18:41,266 THERE WAS AN 11% DROP IN 723 00:18:41,333 --> 00:18:42,967 FELONY ARRESTS, AN 18% DROP 724 00:18:43,033 --> 00:18:45,667 IN MISDEMEANOR ARRESTS, AND 725 00:18:45,734 --> 00:18:47,934 A 32% DROP IN MOVING VIOLATIONS. 726 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,400 BUT THE THING IS: IF YOU LIVED 727 00:18:50,467 --> 00:18:51,934 IN NEW YORK THEN, YOU PROBABLY 728 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,467 DON'T REMEMBER IT AS THE TIME 729 00:18:55,533 --> 00:18:56,300 THAT THE CITY DEVOLVED INTO 730 00:18:56,367 --> 00:18:56,867 CHAOS. 731 00:18:56,934 --> 00:18:57,900 BECAUSE IT DIDN'T. 732 00:18:57,967 --> 00:18:59,133 PEOPLE STILL WENT ABOUT THEIR 733 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,700 LIVES, SUBWAYS WERE STILL AS 734 00:19:00,767 --> 00:19:01,333 DELAYED AS THEY USUALLY WERE, 735 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:02,934 AND RATS STILL DRAGGED SLICES OF 736 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:03,967 PIZZA UP STAIRS TO FEED THEIR 737 00:19:04,033 --> 00:19:05,367 RAT FAMILIES AFTER A HARD DAY OF 738 00:19:05,433 --> 00:19:07,033 RAT WORK. 739 00:19:07,100 --> 00:19:08,066 MAKING YOU WONDER WHETHER ALL 740 00:19:08,133 --> 00:19:09,266 THOSE ARRESTS WERE REALLY 741 00:19:09,333 --> 00:19:10,600 IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC SAFETY 742 00:19:10,667 --> 00:19:12,233 AT ALL. 743 00:19:12,300 --> 00:19:14,934 NOW, ONE GOOD WAY TO ATTEMPT TO 744 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,066 GET REFORMS PAST A UNION'S 745 00:19:17,133 --> 00:19:19,934 RESISTANCE IS IF THE FEDERAL 746 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:20,934 GOVERNMENT STEPS IN, WHICH IT 747 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:21,834 ACTUALLY CAN. 748 00:19:21,900 --> 00:19:23,567 IT HAS THE POWER TO INVESTIGATE 749 00:19:23,633 --> 00:19:24,400 POLICE DEPARTMENTS FOR A PATTERN 750 00:19:24,467 --> 00:19:28,066 OF CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, AND 751 00:19:28,133 --> 00:19:29,233 ENTER WHAT IS CALLED A "CONSENT 752 00:19:29,300 --> 00:19:30,000 DECREE," IN WHICH THE POLICE 753 00:19:30,066 --> 00:19:30,934 DEPARTMENT AGREES TO MAKE 754 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,000 INSTITUTIONAL CHANGES THAT 755 00:19:32,066 --> 00:19:32,900 ARE THEN OVERSEEN BY 756 00:19:32,967 --> 00:19:34,700 A FEDERAL COURT. 757 00:19:34,767 --> 00:19:36,233 THAT CAN BE A POWERFUL TOOL 758 00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:37,400 TO FORCE CHANGE. 759 00:19:37,467 --> 00:19:38,533 IN FACT, THAT PAPERWORK 760 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,567 REQUIREMENT IN CLEVELAND THAT 761 00:19:40,633 --> 00:19:42,066 PISSED OFF THIS EGG? 762 00:19:42,133 --> 00:19:44,100 THAT CAME FROM A CONSENT DECREE. 763 00:19:44,166 --> 00:19:46,867 THE PROBLEM IS, HOW OR EVEN 764 00:19:46,934 --> 00:19:50,233 WHETHER THE GOVERNMENT DOES THAT 765 00:19:50,300 --> 00:19:50,967 DEPENDS ON WHO IS RUNNING IT. 766 00:19:51,033 --> 00:19:52,033 AND RIGHT NOW, IT'S THIS WILDLY 767 00:19:52,100 --> 00:19:53,600 UNSUCCESSFUL BIBLE SALESMAN. 768 00:19:53,667 --> 00:19:55,000 AND HE CLEARLY HAS NO INTEREST 769 00:19:55,066 --> 00:19:56,500 IN POLICE REFORM. 770 00:19:56,567 --> 00:19:58,667 IN GEORGE W. BUSH'S FIRST TERM, 771 00:19:58,734 --> 00:20:00,100 HIS JUSTICE DEPARTMENT LAUNCHED 772 00:20:00,166 --> 00:20:01,367 12 SUCH INVESTIGATIONS INTO 773 00:20:01,433 --> 00:20:02,300 POLICE DEPARTMENTS. 774 00:20:02,367 --> 00:20:03,300 IN OBAMA'S FIRST TERM, IT WAS 775 00:20:03,367 --> 00:20:05,934 15. 776 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,433 TRUMP'S D.O.J. HAS LAUNCHED JUST 777 00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:09,166 A SINGLE INVESTIGATION, AND HAS 778 00:20:09,233 --> 00:20:10,867 ENTERED ZERO CONSENT DECREES. 779 00:20:10,934 --> 00:20:12,867 MEANWHILE, TRUMP HIMSELF HAS 780 00:20:12,934 --> 00:20:13,967 MADE IT PRETTY CLEAR WHERE 781 00:20:14,033 --> 00:20:15,133 HE STANDS ON THE POLICE USE OF 782 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,433 FORCE. 783 00:20:16,500 --> 00:20:18,066 HE NOT ONLY ROLLED BACK OBAMA'S 784 00:20:18,133 --> 00:20:18,867 RESTRICTIONS ON GIVING THE 785 00:20:18,934 --> 00:20:20,100 POLICE MILITARY EQUIPMENT, 786 00:20:20,166 --> 00:20:21,300 JUST LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAID TO 787 00:20:21,367 --> 00:20:22,600 AN AUDIENCE FILLED WITH 788 00:20:22,667 --> 00:20:24,333 LAW ENFORCEMENT. 789 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,333 >> PLEASE DON'T BE TOO NICE. 790 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,667 LIKE WHEN YOU GUYS PUT SOMEBODY 791 00:20:29,767 --> 00:20:31,467 IN THE CAR AND YOU'RE PROTECTING 792 00:20:31,533 --> 00:20:33,100 THEIR HEAD, YOU KNOW, THE WAY 793 00:20:33,133 --> 00:20:35,600 YOU PUT YOUR HAND OVER IT. 794 00:20:35,667 --> 00:20:37,333 LIKE, DON'T HIT THEIR HEAD, AND 795 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:38,500 THEY'VE JUST KILLED SOMEBODY. 796 00:20:38,567 --> 00:20:38,967 DON'T HIT THEIR HEAD. 797 00:20:39,033 --> 00:20:39,567 I SAID, YOU CAN TAKE THE HAND 798 00:20:39,633 --> 00:20:45,767 AWAY, OKAY? 799 00:20:46,867 --> 00:20:51,500 >> John: WOW. 800 00:20:51,567 --> 00:20:53,567 YOU KNOW, IT'S BAD ENOUGH WHEN 801 00:20:53,633 --> 00:20:55,266 IT'S JUST A BUNCH OF RANDOM 802 00:20:55,333 --> 00:20:59,133 SHITHEADS CHEERING ON TRUMP'S 803 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,100 LAWLESS RHETORIC, 804 00:21:00,166 --> 00:21:01,133 IT'S A LOT MORE 805 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,333 ALARMING WHEN THE APPLAUSE IS 806 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,033 COMING FROM THE PEOPLE WHOSE 807 00:21:03,100 --> 00:21:04,200 SOLE JOB IS TO SEE LAWLESSNESS 808 00:21:04,266 --> 00:21:05,100 AND STOP IT. 809 00:21:05,166 --> 00:21:06,333 SO IF THE UNIONS WON'T ACT, AND 810 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,300 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WON'T 811 00:21:07,367 --> 00:21:08,166 ACT, WHAT ELSE CAN YOU DO, 812 00:21:08,233 --> 00:21:09,066 AS A CIVILIAN, TO GET 813 00:21:09,133 --> 00:21:09,867 ACCOUNTABILITY IF THE POLICE 814 00:21:09,934 --> 00:21:10,867 VIOLATED YOUR RIGHTS? 815 00:21:10,934 --> 00:21:12,166 WELL, YOU COULD TRY AND SUE THE 816 00:21:12,233 --> 00:21:13,567 CITY, OR THE INDIVIDUAL OFFICER 817 00:21:13,633 --> 00:21:14,567 IN QUESTION. 818 00:21:14,633 --> 00:21:15,567 AND IN HIGH-PROFILE CASES 819 00:21:15,633 --> 00:21:16,533 ESPECIALLY, THEY CAN BE 820 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,333 INCENTIVIZED TO SETTLE FOR 821 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,333 ASTONISHING AMOUNTS. 822 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,400 IN FACT, OVER A PERIOD OF 823 00:21:21,467 --> 00:21:23,100 FIVE YEARS, THE TEN CITIES WITH 824 00:21:23,166 --> 00:21:25,100 THE LARGEST POLICE DEPARTMENTS 825 00:21:25,166 --> 00:21:27,233 PAID OUT A BILLION DOLLARS IN 826 00:21:27,300 --> 00:21:28,400 SETTLEMENTS AND COURT JUDGMENTS. 827 00:21:28,467 --> 00:21:30,500 AND LISTEN, I'M NO COMPTROLLER. 828 00:21:30,567 --> 00:21:32,266 BELIEVE ME -- I WISH I WERE. 829 00:21:32,333 --> 00:21:34,133 A HARD-TO-EXPLAIN, LETHALLY 830 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,000 BORING, ELECTED ACCOUNTANT WHOSE 831 00:21:36,066 --> 00:21:36,834 TITLE INEXPLICABLY TOOK A REAL 832 00:21:36,900 --> 00:21:37,567 WORD AND STUCK AN "MP" IN THE 833 00:21:37,633 --> 00:21:37,967 MIDDLE OF IT? 834 00:21:38,033 --> 00:21:40,200 COME ON! 835 00:21:40,266 --> 00:21:41,867 THAT'S MY DREAM JOMPB. 836 00:21:41,934 --> 00:21:43,166 BUT EVEN I CAN TELL YOU: 837 00:21:43,233 --> 00:21:44,333 IF YOU'RE SPENDING A BILLION 838 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,433 DOLLARS ON MISCONDUCT 839 00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:46,734 SETTLEMENTS, YOU MIGHT WANT TO 840 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:47,433 SERIOUSLY EXAMINE WHAT CONDUCT 841 00:21:47,500 --> 00:21:48,633 LOOKS LIKE. 842 00:21:48,700 --> 00:21:50,367 AND IF A CITY DOESN'T FEEL IT 843 00:21:50,433 --> 00:21:52,467 HAS TO SETTLE WITH YOU, YOU'RE 844 00:21:52,533 --> 00:21:54,934 IN REAL TROUBLE, BECAUSE CIVIL 845 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:55,533 SUITS AGAINST COPS ARE NEARLY 846 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:56,333 IMPOSSIBLE TO WIN. 847 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,433 JUST LISTEN TO A DEFENSE 848 00:21:57,500 --> 00:21:59,200 ATTORNEY EXPLAIN ONE REASON IT 849 00:21:59,266 --> 00:22:00,767 WAS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT FOR 850 00:22:00,834 --> 00:22:01,967 MICHAEL BROWN'S FAMILY TO SUE 851 00:22:02,033 --> 00:22:02,767 THE FERGUSON OFFICER WHO KILLED 852 00:22:02,834 --> 00:22:03,700 HIM. 853 00:22:03,767 --> 00:22:04,467 >> CIVILLY, SURE, THEY COULD GO 854 00:22:04,533 --> 00:22:06,033 AFTER HIM CIVILLY. 855 00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:06,800 THE PROBLEM IS HE HAS QUALIFIED 856 00:22:06,867 --> 00:22:07,734 IMMUNITY. 857 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,166 HE'S GONNA SAY THAT "I WAS 858 00:22:09,233 --> 00:22:10,300 ACTING WITHIN THE SCOPE OF MY 859 00:22:10,367 --> 00:22:11,233 EMPLOYMENT, THIS IS WHAT I WAS 860 00:22:11,300 --> 00:22:16,500 DOING." 861 00:22:16,567 --> 00:22:19,000 >> John: YEAH, AND HE'S RIGHT 862 00:22:19,066 --> 00:22:19,300 ABOUT THAT. 863 00:22:19,367 --> 00:22:20,100 POLICE OFFICERS ARE OFTEN 864 00:22:20,166 --> 00:22:21,066 PROTECTED FROM CONSEQUENCES 865 00:22:21,133 --> 00:22:22,700 DUE TO SOMETHING CALLED 866 00:22:22,767 --> 00:22:23,133 QUALIFIED IMMUNITY. 867 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:23,767 WHICH SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING YOU 868 00:22:23,834 --> 00:22:24,400 GET FROM A HORRIFYING CHEAT CODE 869 00:22:24,467 --> 00:22:25,200 IN "GRAND THEFT AUTO." 870 00:22:25,266 --> 00:22:25,967 "GUESS WHAT? 871 00:22:26,033 --> 00:22:27,033 I TURNED ON QUALIFIED IMMUNITY 872 00:22:27,100 --> 00:22:27,967 AND NOW MY CAR RUNS ON 873 00:22:28,033 --> 00:22:28,867 PROSTITUTES!" 874 00:22:28,934 --> 00:22:30,033 BUT IT'S ACTUALLY WORTH TAKING A 875 00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:31,300 MOMENT TO TALK ABOUT THAT TERM. 876 00:22:31,367 --> 00:22:33,000 VERY BASICALLY, QUALIFIED 877 00:22:33,066 --> 00:22:34,800 IMMUNITY MEANS THAT A PUBLIC 878 00:22:34,867 --> 00:22:35,700 OFFICIAL IS IMMUNE FROM 879 00:22:35,767 --> 00:22:37,367 LAWSUITS, UNLESS THEIR EXACT 880 00:22:37,433 --> 00:22:39,033 CONDUCT HAS ALREADY BEEN RULED 881 00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:42,734 UNCONSTITUTIONAL IN A PREVIOUS 882 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,934 CASE. 883 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,700 AND I DO MEAN EXACT. 884 00:22:49,767 --> 00:22:51,800 BECAUSE SMALL, TINY VARIATIONS 885 00:22:51,867 --> 00:22:52,700 THROWN OUT. 886 00:22:52,767 --> 00:22:53,734 THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. 887 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:54,500 FOR INSTANCE, ONE CASE WAS 888 00:22:54,567 --> 00:22:55,467 THROWN OUT BECAUSE OF THE 889 00:22:55,533 --> 00:22:56,567 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UNLEASHING 890 00:22:56,633 --> 00:22:57,700 A POLICE DOG TO BITE A 891 00:22:57,767 --> 00:22:58,734 MOTIONLESS SUSPECT IN A BUSHY 892 00:22:58,800 --> 00:22:59,967 RAVINE, AND UNLEASHING A POLICE 893 00:23:00,033 --> 00:23:01,100 DOG TO BITE A COMPLIANT SUSPECT 894 00:23:01,166 --> 00:23:02,667 IN A CANAL IN THE WOODS. 895 00:23:02,734 --> 00:23:04,433 WHICH I TOTALLY GET -- THOSE ARE 896 00:23:04,500 --> 00:23:05,734 TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT KINDS 897 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,467 OF OUTDOOR HOLES. 898 00:23:07,533 --> 00:23:09,233 AND THEN THERE WAS THIS CASE: 899 00:23:09,300 --> 00:23:10,967 >> A FEDERAL APPEALS COURT HAS 900 00:23:11,033 --> 00:23:12,100 RULED SEATTLE POLICE USED 901 00:23:12,166 --> 00:23:13,233 EXCESSIVE FORCE WHEN THEY 902 00:23:13,300 --> 00:23:14,500 TASERED A PREGNANT WOMAN DURING 903 00:23:14,567 --> 00:23:16,867 A TRAFFIC STOP IN 2004. 904 00:23:16,934 --> 00:23:18,500 SHE WAS SHOCKED THREE TIMES WITH 905 00:23:18,567 --> 00:23:20,300 A STUN GUN FOR REFUSING TO SIGN 906 00:23:20,367 --> 00:23:22,066 A SPEEDING TICKET. 907 00:23:22,133 --> 00:23:23,567 ALTHOUGH THE RULING WAS IN 908 00:23:23,633 --> 00:23:24,934 BROOKS' FAVOR, THE OFFICER WHO 909 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,066 FIRED THE TASER WAS GIVEN 910 00:23:28,133 --> 00:23:29,166 IMMUNITY BECAUSE THE LAW ON STUN 911 00:23:29,233 --> 00:23:30,433 GUN USE WAS NOT CLEAR YET. 912 00:23:30,500 --> 00:23:31,500 >> John: THAT IS ABSOLUTELY 913 00:23:31,567 --> 00:23:33,867 RIDICULOUS. 914 00:23:33,934 --> 00:23:35,166 THE METHOD THE OFFICER USED TO 915 00:23:35,233 --> 00:23:36,233 ASSAULT THAT WOMAN CLEARLY 916 00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:37,767 SHOULDN'T MATTER. 917 00:23:37,834 --> 00:23:38,934 IT'S LIKE IF JEFFREY DAHMER WAS 918 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:39,934 DECLARED INNOCENT BECAUSE 919 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:40,700 HE COOKED HIS VICTIMS 920 00:23:40,767 --> 00:23:43,533 IN AN INSTANT POT. 921 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,433 THE CRIME IS THE KILLING, NOT 922 00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:48,166 WHAT FUCKING APPLIANCE HE USED. 923 00:23:48,233 --> 00:23:50,133 NOW, THE GOOD NEWS IS, THERE'S 924 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,367 A CHANCE THE SUPREME COURT WILL 925 00:23:51,433 --> 00:23:52,333 SOON DECIDE TO RECONSIDER 926 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,233 QUALIFIED IMMUNITY. 927 00:23:53,300 --> 00:23:54,667 THERE'S ACTUALLY A BILL IN 928 00:23:54,734 --> 00:23:55,266 CONGRESS RIGHT NOW TO ABOLISH 929 00:23:55,333 --> 00:23:56,533 IT. 930 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,200 ALTHOUGH, EVEN IF IT PASSES, 931 00:23:58,266 --> 00:23:59,300 IT MAY HAVE TO WAIT FOR 932 00:23:59,367 --> 00:24:00,500 A NEW PRESIDENT TO SIGN IT. 933 00:24:00,567 --> 00:24:02,000 AND WE MAY NOT GET ONE OF THOSE 934 00:24:02,066 --> 00:24:03,033 ANYWHERE FROM THE NEXT FOUR 935 00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:04,266 YEARS TO NEVER. 936 00:24:04,333 --> 00:24:06,734 BUT WHILE ENDING QUALIFIED 937 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,033 IMMUNITY WOULD BE GREAT, THAT 938 00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:11,133 ALONE ISN'T GONNA BE NEARLY 939 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:11,367 ENOUGH. 940 00:24:11,433 --> 00:24:12,500 AND THAT BRINGS US TO OUR FINAL 941 00:24:12,567 --> 00:24:14,433 POINT: WHAT DO WE DO NOW? 942 00:24:14,500 --> 00:24:16,033 THERE ARE A LOT OF SUGGESTIONS 943 00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:18,867 TO LOOK AT HERE. 944 00:24:18,934 --> 00:24:20,066 UNFORTUNATELY, SOME PROMINENT 945 00:24:20,133 --> 00:24:21,333 DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN SPITBALLING 946 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,233 IDEAS THAT ARE EMBARRASSINGLY 947 00:24:23,300 --> 00:24:24,133 SMALL, PERHAPS NONE MORE 948 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,500 RIDICULOUS THAN THIS: 949 00:24:26,567 --> 00:24:28,300 >> AND THE IDEA THAT OF INSTEAD 950 00:24:28,367 --> 00:24:30,700 OF STANDING THERE AND TEACHING 951 00:24:30,767 --> 00:24:32,500 A COP WHEN THERE'S AN UNARMED 952 00:24:32,567 --> 00:24:33,767 PERSON COMIN' AT 'EM WITH A 953 00:24:33,834 --> 00:24:35,300 KNIFE OR SOMETHING, TO SHOOT 'EM 954 00:24:35,367 --> 00:24:36,100 IN THE LEG INSTEAD OF THE HEART 955 00:24:36,166 --> 00:24:37,233 IS A VERY DIFFERENT THING. 956 00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:38,433 THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT 957 00:24:38,500 --> 00:24:39,600 THINGS THAT CAN CHANGE. 958 00:24:39,667 --> 00:24:42,500 >> John: WOW. 959 00:24:42,567 --> 00:24:44,266 THAT LACK OF IMAGINATION IS 960 00:24:44,333 --> 00:24:45,333 NOT PARTICULARLY INSPIRING, 961 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:46,800 BUT ALSO: NOT PARTICULARLY 962 00:24:46,867 --> 00:24:47,700 SURPRISING COMING FROM 963 00:24:47,767 --> 00:24:48,834 JOE BIDEN, WHO IS TRULY THE 964 00:24:48,900 --> 00:24:50,300 "GETTING SHOT IN THE LEG INSTEAD 965 00:24:50,367 --> 00:24:51,033 OF THE HEART" CANDIDATE 966 00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:55,734 RIGHT NOW. 967 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,066 AND WHILE THAT'S OBVIOUSLY 968 00:24:59,133 --> 00:24:59,734 ABSURD, THE INSTINCT BIDEN JUST 969 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:00,433 DISPLAYED -- 970 00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:01,467 THAT THE KEY QUESTION IS NOT IF 971 00:25:01,533 --> 00:25:02,567 AN OFFICER SHOULD SHOOT SOMEONE, 972 00:25:02,633 --> 00:25:03,500 BUT WHERE -- IS SHARED BY MANY 973 00:25:03,567 --> 00:25:04,533 POLITICIANS. 974 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:05,834 IN NEW YORK, BILL DE BLASIO HAS 975 00:25:05,900 --> 00:25:07,066 BALKED AT MAKING IT ILLEGAL FOR 976 00:25:07,133 --> 00:25:08,300 POLICE TO USE CHOKEHOLDS, 977 00:25:08,367 --> 00:25:09,333 DESPITE THE FACT THAT 978 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,300 A CHOKEHOLD IS PRECISELY WHAT 979 00:25:11,367 --> 00:25:12,834 LED TO THE DEATH OF ERIC GARNER. 980 00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:15,233 BUT THE FACT IS, THE INCREMENTAL 981 00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:17,500 REFORMS WE'VE TRIED -- LIKE THE 982 00:25:17,567 --> 00:25:19,166 WIDER USE OF BODY CAMERAS, AND 983 00:25:19,233 --> 00:25:20,033 IMPLICIT BIAS AND USE-OF-FORCE 984 00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:21,367 TRAINING -- ARE NOT, ON THEIR 985 00:25:21,433 --> 00:25:23,867 OWN, GOING TO CUT IT. 986 00:25:23,934 --> 00:25:25,834 AND I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T 987 00:25:25,900 --> 00:25:27,667 STILL TRY THEM, BUT IN MANY 988 00:25:27,734 --> 00:25:30,200 CASES, YOU'RE CONTENDING WITH 989 00:25:30,266 --> 00:25:31,200 AN ENTRENCHED POLICE CULTURE 990 00:25:31,266 --> 00:25:35,233 RESISTANT TO ANY EFFORT TO 991 00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:35,567 COMPEL REFORM. 992 00:25:35,633 --> 00:25:36,333 THAT IS WHY MANY ARE ADVOCATING 993 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,300 THAT WE RETHINK POLICE FROM 994 00:25:37,367 --> 00:25:38,233 THE GROUND UP. 995 00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:39,200 ONE SMALL EXAMPLE OF THIS IS 996 00:25:39,266 --> 00:25:40,500 CAMDEN, NEW JERSEY, WHICH, 997 00:25:40,567 --> 00:25:42,367 TEN YEARS AGO WAS POLICED 998 00:25:42,433 --> 00:25:43,133 BY A DEEPLY TROUBLED, 999 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,100 CORRUPTION-RIDDEN FORCE. 1000 00:25:45,166 --> 00:25:47,533 BUT IN 2013, THEY DISSOLVED 1001 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,467 THEIR CITY POLICE FORCE 1002 00:25:49,533 --> 00:25:50,867 ENTIRELY, WITH OFFICERS HAVING 1003 00:25:50,934 --> 00:25:52,567 TO REAPPLY FOR THEIR JOBS. 1004 00:25:52,633 --> 00:25:54,233 AND IN DOING THAT, THEY'VE BEEN 1005 00:25:54,300 --> 00:25:55,300 ABLE TO MEANINGFULLY SHIFT THE 1006 00:25:55,367 --> 00:25:57,300 CULTURE, WHILE ALSO INSTITUTING 1007 00:25:57,367 --> 00:25:59,100 POLICY CHANGES THAT HAVE LED TO 1008 00:25:59,166 --> 00:26:01,867 BOTH A DROP IN EXCESSIVE-FORCE 1009 00:26:01,934 --> 00:26:02,667 COMPLAINTS, AND SOME REBUILDING 1010 00:26:02,734 --> 00:26:05,867 OF COMMUNITY TRUST. 1011 00:26:05,934 --> 00:26:06,967 AND LOOK, I'M NOT SAYING THAT 1012 00:26:07,033 --> 00:26:08,834 IT'S BEEN EASY, PERFECT, OR EVEN 1013 00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:10,500 THAT IT WOULD WORK EVERYWHERE. 1014 00:26:10,567 --> 00:26:11,767 BUT IT SHOULD EXPAND OUR IDEA OF 1015 00:26:11,834 --> 00:26:13,233 WHAT'S POSSIBLE. 1016 00:26:13,300 --> 00:26:14,567 ONE EVEN BROADER IDEA THAT'S 1017 00:26:14,633 --> 00:26:15,934 GAINING MOMENTUM RIGHT NOW IS 1018 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,300 DEFUNDING THE POLICE -- A PHRASE 1019 00:26:18,367 --> 00:26:19,467 THAT, ON ITS FACE, MAY SOUND 1020 00:26:19,533 --> 00:26:20,867 ALARMING TO SOME. 1021 00:26:20,934 --> 00:26:22,867 IN FACT, JUST WATCH THIS 1022 00:26:22,934 --> 00:26:24,900 PROFESSIONAL ALARMIST BE 1023 00:26:24,967 --> 00:26:26,700 ALARMED, ON HIS VERY BAD FACE: 1024 00:26:26,767 --> 00:26:27,533 >> DEFUND THE POLICE. 1025 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:28,734 NO MORE COPS. 1026 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:29,767 THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE FIGHTING 1027 00:26:29,834 --> 00:26:31,066 FOR. 1028 00:26:31,133 --> 00:26:32,500 THAT SEEMS LIKE A FRINGE 1029 00:26:32,567 --> 00:26:33,200 POSITION, BUT IN THE DEMOCRATIC 1030 00:26:33,266 --> 00:26:34,934 PARTY, IT ISN'T ANYMORE. 1031 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:35,867 IF YOU LIVE IN A GATED 1032 00:26:35,934 --> 00:26:36,934 COMMUNITY, IT MIGHT SOUND 1033 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,834 LIKE A GOOD IDEA. 1034 00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:39,567 YOU'VE GOT YOUR OWN POLICE 1035 00:26:39,633 --> 00:26:41,000 FORCE. 1036 00:26:41,066 --> 00:26:43,266 YOU HAVE NO PLANS TO REPLACE 1037 00:26:43,333 --> 00:26:44,500 THEM WITH RAPID RESPONSE 1038 00:26:44,567 --> 00:26:45,667 SOCIAL WORKERS. 1039 00:26:45,734 --> 00:26:47,400 SO YOU'RE SET NO MATTER WHAT 1040 00:26:47,467 --> 00:26:47,633 HAPPENS. 1041 00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:48,400 THERE AREN'T GOING TO BE ANY 1042 00:26:48,467 --> 00:26:50,066 RAPES ON YOUR STREET. 1043 00:26:50,133 --> 00:26:51,867 BUT WHAT ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE? 1044 00:26:51,934 --> 00:26:56,800 WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THEM? 1045 00:26:56,867 --> 00:26:58,700 >> John: OKAY, FIRST OF ALL -- 1046 00:26:58,767 --> 00:26:59,967 IN ALL SINCERITY -- TUCKER, YOU 1047 00:27:00,033 --> 00:27:00,600 SEEM NERVOUS. 1048 00:27:00,667 --> 00:27:01,567 THIS IS A DIFFICULT MOMENT, AND 1049 00:27:01,633 --> 00:27:02,800 I REALLY HOPE YOU'RE TAKING TIME 1050 00:27:02,867 --> 00:27:03,934 FOR YOURSELF, WHETHER IT'S 1051 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,633 THROUGH MEDITATION, YOGA, OR 1052 00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:07,333 JUST KIDDING, FUCK YOU FOREVER, 1053 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,734 TUCKER CARLSON, YOU SENTIENT 1054 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,567 POLO MALLET! 1055 00:27:12,633 --> 00:27:14,033 SECOND: GIVEN THE SHOCKINGLY 1056 00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:15,066 LOW NUMBER OF RAPE CASES THAT 1057 00:27:15,133 --> 00:27:15,834 ACTUALLY RESULT IN CHARGES, 1058 00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:17,066 MUCH LESS CONVICTIONS, I REALLY 1059 00:27:17,133 --> 00:27:19,867 WOULDN'T BE HOLDING THAT UP AS 1060 00:27:19,934 --> 00:27:21,200 PROOF THAT OUR CURRENT SYSTEM IS 1061 00:27:21,266 --> 00:27:22,166 WORKING WELL. 1062 00:27:22,233 --> 00:27:24,533 AND FINALLY: DEFUNDING THE 1063 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,967 POLICE ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT MEAN 1064 00:27:27,033 --> 00:27:28,734 THAT WE ELIMINATE ALL COPS AND 1065 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,734 JUST SUCCUMB TO "THE PURGE." 1066 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,000 INSTEAD, IT'S ABOUT MOVING AWAY 1067 00:27:32,066 --> 00:27:33,700 FROM A NARROW CONCEPTION OF 1068 00:27:33,767 --> 00:27:34,900 "PUBLIC SAFETY" THAT RELIES ON 1069 00:27:34,967 --> 00:27:36,333 POLICING AND PUNISHMENT, AND 1070 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,200 INVESTING IN A COMMUNITY'S 1071 00:27:38,266 --> 00:27:39,133 ACTUAL "SAFETY NET" -- THINGS 1072 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,700 LIKE STABLE HOUSING, 1073 00:27:40,767 --> 00:27:41,900 MENTAL-HEALTH SERVICES, AND 1074 00:27:41,967 --> 00:27:43,700 COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS. 1075 00:27:43,767 --> 00:27:45,166 THE CONCEPT IS THAT THE ROLE OF 1076 00:27:45,233 --> 00:27:46,800 THE POLICE CAN THEN 1077 00:27:46,867 --> 00:27:50,233 SIGNIFICANTLY SHRINK, BECAUSE 1078 00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:50,967 THEY ARE NOT RESPONDING TO THE 1079 00:27:51,033 --> 00:27:52,633 HOMELESS, OR TO MENTAL-HEALTH 1080 00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:54,700 CALLS, OR ARRESTING CHILDREN IN 1081 00:27:54,767 --> 00:27:55,333 SCHOOLS, OR ANY OTHER SITUATION 1082 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,033 WHERE THE BEST SOLUTION ISN'T 1083 00:27:57,100 --> 00:28:01,767 SOMEONE SHOWING UP WITH A GUN. 1084 00:28:01,834 --> 00:28:02,967 THAT IS THE IDEA BEHIND "DEFUND 1085 00:28:03,033 --> 00:28:04,967 THE POLICE," IF YOU ACTUALLY 1086 00:28:05,066 --> 00:28:05,867 LISTEN TO IT. 1087 00:28:05,900 --> 00:28:06,800 WHICH SUGGESTS TUCKER CARLSON 1088 00:28:06,867 --> 00:28:07,533 HAS THE EXACT LEVEL OF 1089 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:08,600 UNDERSTANDING ABOUT 1090 00:28:08,667 --> 00:28:10,266 THE BLACK LIVES MATTER MOVEMENT 1091 00:28:10,333 --> 00:28:11,166 THAT YOU'D EXPECT FROM A MAN WHO 1092 00:28:11,233 --> 00:28:12,433 ALWAYS LOOKS LIKE HE JUST SAW 1093 00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:13,433 HIS FIRST BLACK BARBIE AND FEELS 1094 00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:16,600 CONFUSED, BUT MOSTLY SCARED. 1095 00:28:16,667 --> 00:28:18,300 AND LOOK, AS WE KNOW, MANY 1096 00:28:18,367 --> 00:28:19,467 POLICE WILL LIKELY RESIST ANY 1097 00:28:19,533 --> 00:28:21,367 REDISTRIBUTION, HARD. 1098 00:28:21,433 --> 00:28:22,900 POLICE UNIONS OFTEN PAINT 1099 00:28:22,967 --> 00:28:24,033 THEMSELVES AS ESSENTIAL, 1100 00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:27,233 AND EVERYTHING ELSE AS SOMEHOW 1101 00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:27,500 FRIVOLOUS. 1102 00:28:27,567 --> 00:28:28,867 IN FACT, REMEMBER BOB KROLL? 1103 00:28:28,934 --> 00:28:30,300 WHEN MINNEAPOLIS ASKED HIS UNION 1104 00:28:30,367 --> 00:28:36,133 TO ACCEPT A PAY FREEZE DUE TO 1105 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:36,700 COVID-19, HERE IS HOW HE 1106 00:28:36,767 --> 00:28:37,567 REACTED: 1107 00:28:37,633 --> 00:28:38,467 >> THE FIRST THING WE SAID WAS, 1108 00:28:38,533 --> 00:28:39,233 OKAY, LET'S SEE THE BUDGET, 1109 00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:42,934 LET'S SEE THE CITY BUDGET. 1110 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:43,533 AND GUYS, THEY'RE PISSING AWAY 1111 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,166 MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS 1112 00:28:44,233 --> 00:28:44,967 TO PROJECTS. 1113 00:28:45,033 --> 00:28:45,934 LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GIVING 1114 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:46,800 $15,000 A YEAR TO THE 1115 00:28:46,867 --> 00:28:47,834 TRANSGENDER COORDINATOR 1116 00:28:47,900 --> 00:28:52,200 FOR THE CITY. 1117 00:28:52,266 --> 00:28:54,100 >> John: ALL RIGHT. 1118 00:28:54,166 --> 00:28:55,000 SO, LET'S SET ASIDE 1119 00:28:55,066 --> 00:28:56,200 THAT TRANSGENDER PEOPLE ARE 1120 00:28:56,266 --> 00:28:58,734 OFTEN HARASSED -- AND MORE THAN 1121 00:28:58,800 --> 00:28:59,333 HALF REPORT SPECIFICALLY BEING 1122 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,400 MISTREATED BY THE POLICE. 1123 00:29:00,467 --> 00:29:01,433 AND INSTEAD, CONSIDER THAT 1124 00:29:01,500 --> 00:29:02,900 THE BUDGET FOR THE MINNEAPOLIS 1125 00:29:02,967 --> 00:29:03,900 POLICE DEPARTMENT IS 1126 00:29:03,967 --> 00:29:04,700 $193 MILLION, MEANING THAT 1127 00:29:04,767 --> 00:29:06,400 $15,000 AMOUNTS TO 0.008% OF 1128 00:29:06,467 --> 00:29:08,734 THEIR ANNUAL BUDGET. 1129 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,734 AND IF THAT'S PISSING MONEY 1130 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:11,800 AWAY, THE CITY SHOULD SEE A 1131 00:29:11,867 --> 00:29:13,166 FUCKING UROLOGIST. 1132 00:29:13,233 --> 00:29:14,567 BUT GUYS LIKE BOB ROLLING HIS 1133 00:29:14,633 --> 00:29:15,633 EYES AT ANYTHING 1134 00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:18,633 TRANSGENDER-RELATED IS EXACTLY 1135 00:29:18,700 --> 00:29:19,100 WHY IT'S TIME FOR OUR 1136 00:29:19,166 --> 00:29:20,367 CONVERSATION TO GO BEYOND 1137 00:29:20,433 --> 00:29:21,233 "HOW SHOULD THE POLICE DO THEIR 1138 00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:21,600 JOBS?" 1139 00:29:21,667 --> 00:29:23,066 TO "WHAT, REALLY, DO WE WANT 1140 00:29:23,133 --> 00:29:26,767 THE ROLE OF THE POLICE TO BE?" 1141 00:29:26,834 --> 00:29:28,200 AND TOO MANY STILL SEEM TO THINK 1142 00:29:28,266 --> 00:29:29,333 THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE OF A FEW 1143 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,233 BAD ACTORS. 1144 00:29:31,300 --> 00:29:32,834 IN FACT, JUST LISTEN TO ONE 1145 00:29:32,900 --> 00:29:33,800 OFFICER UNSUCCESSFULLY TO TRY TO 1146 00:29:33,867 --> 00:29:37,800 MAKE THAT ARGUMENT TO SOME 1147 00:29:37,867 --> 00:29:38,567 PROTESTORS JUST THIS WEEK. 1148 00:29:38,633 --> 00:29:39,300 >> ONE BAD HAMBURGER AT 1149 00:29:39,367 --> 00:29:40,133 McDONALD'S DOES NOT MAKE 1150 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,700 McDONALD'S BAD. 1151 00:29:42,767 --> 00:29:45,667 >> WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN? 1152 00:29:45,734 --> 00:29:46,867 >> John: YEAH, THAT 1153 00:29:46,934 --> 00:29:47,834 PROTESTOR'S RIGHT: 1154 00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:48,967 WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN? 1155 00:29:49,033 --> 00:29:49,934 BECAUSE ONE BAD HAMBURGER SHOULD 1156 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,166 MEAN A HEALTH INSPECTION. 1157 00:29:51,233 --> 00:29:52,533 A FEW BAD HAMBURGERS MIGHT MEAN 1158 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,333 THAT McDONALD'S IS GETTING SHUT 1159 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,467 DOWN. 1160 00:29:54,533 --> 00:29:55,734 AND BAD HAMBURGERS REGULARLY 1161 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:56,934 KILLING PEOPLE ON THE STREET 1162 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,600 WOULD MEAN THAT WE'D ALL MAYBE 1163 00:29:58,667 --> 00:30:00,400 CONSIDER GOING FUCKING VEGAN. 1164 00:30:00,467 --> 00:30:02,767 THIS CLEARLY ISN'T ABOUT 1165 00:30:02,834 --> 00:30:04,467 INDIVIDUAL OFFICERS; IT'S ABOUT 1166 00:30:04,533 --> 00:30:08,033 A STRUCTURE, BUILT ON SYSTEMIC 1167 00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:09,000 RACISM THAT THIS COUNTRY CREATED 1168 00:30:09,066 --> 00:30:10,200 INTENTIONALLY AND NOW NEEDS TO 1169 00:30:10,266 --> 00:30:14,533 DISMANTLE INTENTIONALLY. 1170 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,834 AND REPLACE WITH ONE THAT TAKES 1171 00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:17,467 INTO THE ACCOUNT THE NEEDS OF 1172 00:30:17,533 --> 00:30:18,100 THE PEOPLE THAT IT ACTUALLY 1173 00:30:18,166 --> 00:30:18,500 SERVES. 1174 00:30:18,567 --> 00:30:19,567 AND THIS IS GOING TO TAKE 1175 00:30:19,633 --> 00:30:20,834 SUSTAINED PRESSURE AND 1176 00:30:20,900 --> 00:30:22,100 ATTENTION OVER A LONG PERIOD OF 1177 00:30:22,166 --> 00:30:22,934 TIME FROM ALL OF US. 1178 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,900 BLACK COMMUNITIES HAVE HAD TO BE 1179 00:30:24,967 --> 00:30:26,300 PERPETUAL ACTIVISTS WHILE ALSO 1180 00:30:26,367 --> 00:30:28,700 ROUTINELY BEING DISENFRANCHISED. 1181 00:30:28,767 --> 00:30:29,967 IT'S LONG PAST TIME THE REST OF 1182 00:30:30,033 --> 00:30:31,033 US JOINED TO MAKE SURE THEIR 1183 00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:35,400 VOICES ARE HEARD. 1184 00:30:35,467 --> 00:30:36,166 AND ACTED UPON. 1185 00:30:36,233 --> 00:30:37,266 BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE FAR TOO 1186 00:30:37,333 --> 00:30:38,333 EASY FOR NOTHING TO MEANINGFULLY 1187 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:43,800 CHANGE HERE. 1188 00:30:43,867 --> 00:30:44,734 THAT IS WHAT HAS ALWAYS HAPPENED 1189 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,500 BEFORE. 1190 00:30:45,567 --> 00:30:46,467 AFTER THE UNREST IN THE LATE 1191 00:30:46,533 --> 00:30:47,100 '60S, A COMMISSION WAS SET UP TO 1192 00:30:47,166 --> 00:30:48,734 INVESTIGATE AND ISSUE ADVICE. 1193 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,400 MANY OF ITS CONCLUSIONS RESEMBLE 1194 00:30:51,467 --> 00:30:52,233 IDEAS -- LIKE POLICE 1195 00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:54,033 DEMILITARIZATION AND BROAD 1196 00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:54,600 REINVESTMENT IN MARGINALIZED 1197 00:30:54,667 --> 00:30:55,233 COMMUNITIES -- THAT ARE STILL 1198 00:30:55,300 --> 00:30:56,700 BEING PUSHED TODAY. 1199 00:30:56,767 --> 00:31:00,533 TESTIFYING BEFORE THAT 1200 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,533 COMMISSION WAS 1201 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,667 THE SOCIAL SCIENTIST 1202 00:31:02,734 --> 00:31:03,500 KENNETH CLARK, MADE THIS 1203 00:31:03,567 --> 00:31:04,400 OBSERVATION, WHICH REMAINS 1204 00:31:04,467 --> 00:31:04,934 DEPRESSINGLY TRUE. 1205 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,033 HE SAID, "I READ THE REPORT OF 1206 00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:08,600 THE 1919 RIOT IN CHICAGO, AND IT 1207 00:31:08,667 --> 00:31:09,300 IS AS IF I WERE READING THE 1208 00:31:09,367 --> 00:31:10,800 REPORT OF THE INVESTIGATING 1209 00:31:10,867 --> 00:31:12,033 COMMITTEE OF THE HARLEM RIOT OF 1210 00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:13,200 1935, THE REPORT OF THE 1211 00:31:13,266 --> 00:31:14,667 INVESTIGATING COMMITTEE OF THE 1212 00:31:14,734 --> 00:31:16,100 HARLEM RIOT OF 1943, THE REPORT 1213 00:31:16,166 --> 00:31:17,900 OF THE McCONE COMMISSION OF THE 1214 00:31:17,967 --> 00:31:19,266 WATTS RIOT OF 1965. 1215 00:31:19,333 --> 00:31:21,600 I MUST AGAIN IN CANDOR SAY TO 1216 00:31:21,667 --> 00:31:23,233 YOU, IT IS A KIND OF "ALICE IN 1217 00:31:23,300 --> 00:31:24,700 WONDERLAND" WITH THE SAME MOVING 1218 00:31:24,767 --> 00:31:27,066 PICTURE RESHOWN OVER AND OVER 1219 00:31:27,133 --> 00:31:28,700 AGAIN, THE SAME ANALYSIS, THE 1220 00:31:28,767 --> 00:31:30,066 SAME RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE 1221 00:31:30,133 --> 00:31:33,934 SAME INACTION." 1222 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,066 WE'RE IN THE SAME SHIT NOW THAT 1223 00:31:35,133 --> 00:31:36,233 WE WERE IN BACK THEN. 1224 00:31:36,300 --> 00:31:38,166 AND IF YOU ARE NOT DIRECTLY 1225 00:31:38,233 --> 00:31:39,600 IMPACTED BY IT, IT IS TEMPTING 1226 00:31:39,667 --> 00:31:40,533 TO LOOK FOR A REASON TO FEEL 1227 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,934 BETTER ABOUT THE WORLD. 1228 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,233 TO LOOK AT SOME COPS KNEELING 1229 00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:43,967 AND THINK, "OH, WELL, WE JUST 1230 00:31:44,033 --> 00:31:45,967 NEED MORE OF THAT!" 1231 00:31:46,033 --> 00:31:47,667 BUT WE NEED SO MUCH MORE THAN 1232 00:31:47,734 --> 00:31:48,667 THAT. 1233 00:31:48,734 --> 00:31:51,633 BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A FIRMLY 1234 00:31:51,667 --> 00:31:53,934 ENTRENCHED SYSTEM, IN WHICH 1235 00:31:54,000 --> 00:32:00,467 THE ROOTS OF WHITE SUPREMACY RUN 1236 00:32:00,533 --> 00:32:02,300 ALL GRAB A FUCKING SHOVEL. 1237 00:32:02,367 --> 00:32:02,900 TO DO ANYTHING LESS WOULD BE 1238 00:32:02,967 --> 00:32:03,633 ABSOLUTELY UNFORGIVABLE. 1239 00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:08,900 AND ACTUALLY, TO THAT POINT, 1240 00:32:08,967 --> 00:32:09,800 THERE IS ONE PERSON I SAW THIS 1241 00:32:09,867 --> 00:32:10,633 WEEK WHOSE WORDS HAVE BEEN 1242 00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:11,300 ECHOING AROUND MY HEAD. 1243 00:32:11,367 --> 00:32:15,066 AND YOU'VE BEEN LISTENING TO ME 1244 00:32:15,133 --> 00:32:16,033 TALK FOR A WHILE NOW, SO NOW I'M 1245 00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:16,767 GOING TO GIVE HER THE LAST WORD 1246 00:32:16,834 --> 00:32:17,333 TONIGHT: 1247 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,600 >> SO, WHEN THEY SAY, "WHY DO 1248 00:32:18,667 --> 00:32:19,333 YOU BURN DOWN THE COMMUNITY? 1249 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,433 WHY DO YOU BURN DOWN YOUR OWN 1250 00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:21,166 NEIGHBORHOOD?" 1251 00:32:21,233 --> 00:32:24,200 IT'S NOT OURS! 1252 00:32:24,266 --> 00:32:26,700 WE DON'T OWN ANYTHING! 1253 00:32:26,767 --> 00:32:28,834 WE DON'T OWN ANYTHING. 1254 00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:30,834 THERE IS -- TREVOR NOAH SAID IT 1255 00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:31,667 SO BEAUTIFULLY LAST NIGHT -- 1256 00:32:31,734 --> 00:32:33,567 THERE'S A SOCIAL CONTRACT THAT 1257 00:32:33,633 --> 00:32:36,000 WE ALL HAVE, THAT IF YOU STEAL 1258 00:32:36,066 --> 00:32:38,300 OR IF I STEAL, THEN THE PERSON 1259 00:32:38,367 --> 00:32:39,300 WHO IS THE AUTHORITY COMES IN 1260 00:32:39,367 --> 00:32:40,734 AND THEY FIX THE SITUATION. 1261 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,300 BUT THE PERSON WHO FIXES THE 1262 00:32:42,367 --> 00:32:44,033 SITUATION IS KILLING US. 1263 00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:45,400 SO THE SOCIAL CONTRACT IS 1264 00:32:45,467 --> 00:32:47,567 BROKEN. 1265 00:32:47,633 --> 00:32:49,500 AND IF THE SOCIAL CONTRACT IS 1266 00:32:49,567 --> 00:32:51,300 BROKEN, WHY THE FUCK DO I GIVE 1267 00:32:51,367 --> 00:32:53,367 A SHIT ABOUT BURNING THE FUCKING 1268 00:32:53,433 --> 00:32:54,400 FOOTBALL HALL OF FAME, ABOUT 1269 00:32:54,467 --> 00:32:55,967 BURNING A FUCKING TARGET? 1270 00:32:56,033 --> 00:32:57,700 YOU BROKE THE CONTRACT WHEN YOU 1271 00:32:57,767 --> 00:32:59,000 KILLED US IN THE STREETS AND 1272 00:32:59,066 --> 00:33:00,433 DIDN'T GIVE A FUCK! 1273 00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:02,533 YOU BROKE THE CONTRACT 1274 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,834 FOR 400 YEARS. 1275 00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:04,433 WE PLAYED YOUR GAME AND BUILT 1276 00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:05,867 YOUR WEALTH. 1277 00:33:05,934 --> 00:33:07,333 YOU BROKE THE CONTRACT WHEN WE 1278 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,467 BUILT OUR WEALTH, AGAIN, ON OUR 1279 00:33:09,533 --> 00:33:11,934 OWN BY OUR BOOTSTRAPS IN TULSA 1280 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,800 AND YOU DROPPED BOMBS ON US. 1281 00:33:14,867 --> 00:33:15,667 WHEN WE BUILT IT IN ROSEWOOD AND 1282 00:33:15,734 --> 00:33:16,800 YOU CAME IN AND YOU SLAUGHTERED 1283 00:33:16,867 --> 00:33:19,166 US. 1284 00:33:19,233 --> 00:33:20,900 YOU BROKE THE CONTRACT, 1285 00:33:20,967 --> 00:33:22,667 SO FUCK YOUR TARGET. 1286 00:33:22,734 --> 00:33:26,667 FUCK YOUR HALL OF FAME. 1287 00:33:26,734 --> 00:33:27,533 AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, 1288 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,700 THEY CAN BURN THIS BITCH 1289 00:33:29,767 --> 00:33:31,433 TO THE GROUND AND IT STILL 1290 00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:33,166 WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH. 1291 00:33:33,233 --> 00:33:34,400 AND THEY ARE LUCKY THAT WHAT 1292 00:33:34,467 --> 00:33:35,934 BLACK PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR IS 1293 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,200 EQUALITY AND NOT REVENGE. 1294 00:33:38,266 --> 00:33:42,400 >> John: THAT'S OUR SHOW. 1295 00:33:42,467 --> 00:33:42,900 THANKS FOR WATCHING. 1296 00:33:42,967 --> 00:33:45,633 GOOD NIGHT.