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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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John: WELCOME, WELCOME,

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WELCOME, TO

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"LAST WEEK TONIGHT!"

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I'M JOHN OLIVER.

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THANKS FOR JOINING US.

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IT'S BEEN A BUSY WEEK!

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THE SOUTHEAST CONTINUED ITS

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RECOVERY FROM HELENE,

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PORT WORKERS BRIEFLY WENT ON

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STRIKE, AND THE MIDDLE EAST

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INCHED CLOSER TO ALL-OUT WAR,

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SOMETHING ONE LOCAL STATION

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TRIED TO FOLD INTO ITS

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BROADCAST, WITH MIXED RESULTS.

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ALL RIGHT, SOME BREAKING

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NEWS.

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IRAN HAS LAUNCHED A MISSILE

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ATTACK AGAINST ISRAEL.

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THE U.S. OFFICIALLY HAD WARNED

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IRAN EARLIER TO NOT LAUNCH ANY

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MISSILES OR ELSE THERE COULD BE

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SEVERE CONSEQUENCES.

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AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE

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TO GATHER MORE INFORMATION AND

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FOLLOW THIS AND PROVIDE THAT FOR

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YOU AS SOON AS WE GET IT.

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ALSO, SWITCHING GEARS HERE

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NOW, TODAY, NATIONAL TACO DAY,

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FALLS ON THE FIRST TUESDAY OF

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OCTOBER.

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YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS.

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TAMARA BERG RECENTLY COMPETED IN

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A TACO EATING CONTEST--

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OH, WOW.

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AT JIMBOY'S TACOS.

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YEAH, YOU REALLY ARE WHAT YOU

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EAT AREN'T YOU, TAMARA?

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ABSOLUTELY.

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AND YOU GUYS KNOW IF YOU FOLLOW

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ME, ESPECIALLY ON SOCIAL MEDIA,

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MY PASSION RUNS DEEP FOR TACOS.

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John: EXCELLENT.

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THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT FROM

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LOCAL NEWS.

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SAVE THE GLOBALLY SIGNIFICANT

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EVENTS FOR LATER!

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I WANT TO SEE A JOURNALISM MAJOR

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WITH A GIANT TACO ON HER HEAD

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LOOK DIRECTLY INTO THE CAMERA

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AND SAY-- AND I QUOTE--

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"MY PASSION RUNS DEEP FOR

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TACOS".

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JUST IMAGINE OTHER NEWS

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DELIVERED THAT WAY.

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"FROM DALLAS, TEXAS, THE FLASH

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APPARENTLY OFFICIAL.

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PRESIDENT KENNEDY DIED AT

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1:00 P.M. CENTRAL STANDARD TIME.

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SWITCHING GEARS: YOU PROBABLY

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ALREADY KNEW THIS ABOUT ME, BUT

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I'M THE BIGGEST HOT DOG HOUND

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AROUND."

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MEANWHILE, IT WAS THE

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VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE ON

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TUESDAY, IN THIS VERY BUILDING.

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IN FACT, THIS STUDIO SERVED AS

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THE POST-DEBATE SPIN ROOM.

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MEANING THAT YOU ARE ALL

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BREATHING IN THE SAME AIR

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PARTICLES THAT WERE ONCE INSIDE

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DON JR.'S NOSE AND MOUTH.

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SO IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE

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WAKES UP TOMORROW FEELING LIKE

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YOU HAVE A SORE THROAT AND

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YOU'RE A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO

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YOUR FATHER, THAT IS PROBABLY

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IN CONTRAST TO THE PRESIDENTIAL

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DEBATE, WALZ AND VANCE SEEMED AT

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PAINS TO BE COURTEOUS TO ONE

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ANOTHER-- SOMETHING MANY

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COMMENTATORS SAW AS A PLUS.

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THE DEBATE WAS SO POLITE.

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IT'S BEING CALLED "A NIGHT OF

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MIDWEST NICE."

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DESPITE THEIR DIFFERENCES,

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THEY STILL MANAGED TO BE CIVIL.

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IT WAS SO REFRESHING TO SEE

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THEY WERE SO POLITE TO ONE

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ANOTHER.

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THEY WERE.

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I LIKED IT.

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IT WAS A CIVIL DEBATE.

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IT ALMOST SEEMED LIKE THEY LIKE

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EACH OTHER.

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IN MANY WAYS, THAT'S WHAT THE

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COUNTRY HAS BEEN SAYING THEY

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WANT MORE OF.

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John: OKAY, FIRST: ON THE

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LIST OF THINGS AMERICA'S BEEN

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SAYING IT WANTS MORE OF,

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"CIVILITY" IS, AT BEST, NUMBER

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SIX, AFTER AFFORDABLE

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HEALTHCARE, GUN CONTROL,

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CHEAPER HOUSING, REPRODUCTIVE

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RIGHTS, AND STARRING VEHICLES

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FOR NICOLA COUGHLAN.

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BUT ALSO, WHY DO MANNERS MATTER

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HERE?

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THE DEBATE INCLUDED DISCUSSIONS

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ON HOW TO CARRY OUT MASS

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DEPORTATIONS, AND WHETHER WOMEN

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SHOULD HAVE CONTROL OVER THEIR

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OWN BODIES.

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ETIQUETTE IS KIND OF BESIDE THE

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IT'S LIKE READING A RANSOM NOTE

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AND GOING, "THIS CURSIVE IS

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JUST SO LOVELY.

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LOOK AT THE CAPITAL Y IN "YOU

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HAVE 24 HOURS BEFORE HE DIES."

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THERE ARE STILL SOME PEOPLE WHO

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WERE RAISED RIGHT."

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AND COMPLIMENTING VANCE ON HIS

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CIVIL TONE IS A LITTLE HARD TO

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TAKE, GIVEN HOW HE SPENT THE

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REST OF HIS WEEK.

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JUST DAYS BEFORE THE DEBATE, HE

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TOOK PART IN AN EVENT CALLED

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THE COURAGE TOUR-- HOSTED BY

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LANCE WALLNAU, A PROMINENT

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FAR-RIGHT CHRISTIAN NATIONALIST,

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AND SOMEONE WHO'S TALKED ABOUT

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KAMALA HARRIS LIKE THIS:

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SHE CAN LOOK PRESIDENTIAL.

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AND WE'LL GO TO THIS LATER.

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THAT'S THE SEDUCTION OF WHAT I

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WOULD SAY IS WITCHCRAFT.

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THAT'S THE MANIPULATION OF

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IMAGERY THAT CREATES AN

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IMPRESSION CONTRARY TO THE

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TRUTH.

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BUT IT SEDUCES YOU INTO SEEING

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IT.

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SO THAT SPIRIT, THAT OCCULT

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SPIRIT, I BELIEVE, IS OPERATING

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ON HER AND THROUGH HER.

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John: OKAY, FIRST:

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KAMALA HARRIS ISN'T THE ONE

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WHO'S BEEN RELENTLESSLY

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PROMOTING WITCHCRAFT-- YOU'RE

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THINKING OF UNIVERSAL'S

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MARKETING DEPARTMENT.

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AND THIS GUY CLEARLY SHOULDN'T

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BE COMMENTING ON THE ELECTION.

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HE SHOULD BE STANDING IN A TENT

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IN 1856 SELLING CHILDREN MERCURY

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TONICS HE CLAIMS WILL LET THEM

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TALK TO GHOSTS.

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HONESTLY, IT FEELS LIKE THE

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QUESTION THAT LOWER BANNER

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SHOULD REALLY BE ASKING THERE

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IS: "HOLD ON, IS THIS WACKY

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BITCH FOR REAL?"

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AND IT GETS WORSE.

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BECAUSE AT THE EVENT IN

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PENNSYLVANIA, WALLNAU EXPLAINED

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VANCE HAD BEEN SCHEDULED TO BE

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ELSEWHERE, BUT GOD MANAGED TO

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CHANGE HIS PLANS-- AND YOU'RE

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NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THE LOGIC

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BEHIND THAT.

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AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE

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VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE

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J.D. VANCE COMING.

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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I

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TAKE THAT AS A DIRECT ACT OF

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GOD.

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BECAUSE IT JUST CAME TOGETHER IN

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A CERTAIN WAY.

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PITTSBURGH WASN'T EVEN ON THE

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MAP.

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IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE

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NORTH CAROLINA.

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AND GOD SWITCHED IT THAT FAST...

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FOR YOU.

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John: YEAH.

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APPARENTLY, GOD MADE SURE

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HELENE'S FLOODS BROUGHT

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J.D. VANCE TO THAT EVENT.

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AND LOOK, I AM NOT THE AUTHORITY

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ON BEING CHRISTIAN.

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I WAS EVIDENTLY THE ONLY

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COMEDIAN IN THE WORLD WHO DID

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NOT MEET THE FUCKING POPE THIS

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YEAR!

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BUT IF YOU BELIEVE IN A GOD

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WHO'D UNLEASH A DEVASTATING

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HURRICANE, JUST SO J.D. VANCE

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COULD SPEND AN AFTERNOON OUTSIDE

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PITTSBURGH, YOUR GOD SOUNDS LIKE

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AN ASSHOLE.

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AND DURING VANCE'S APPEARANCE AT

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THE EVENT, HE SEEMED MORE THAN

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HAPPY TO PLAY TO THE CROWD.

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THE AMERICAN EDUCATION SYSTEM

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USED TO BE THE ENVY OF THE

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WORLD.

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RICH OR POOR ALIKE, WE BELIEVE

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IN THIS COUNTRY THAT EVERY

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PERSON DESERVES A QUALITY

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EDUCATION.

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WELL, NOW WE'VE GOT AMERICAN

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CHILDREN WHO CAN'T ADD FIVE PLUS

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FIVE, BUT THEY CAN TELL YOU THAT

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THERE ARE 87 DIFFERENT GENDERS.

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John: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING

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ABOUT?

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THAT IS OBVIOUSLY BIGOTED

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BULLSHIT.

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IF ANY KIDS ARE MISSING OUT ON

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THEIR ADDITION LESSONS, IT'S FOR

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THE SAME REASON THEY ALWAYS

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HAVE:

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BECAUSE THEY'RE WAY TOO

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DISTRACTED BY

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THE CLASS HAMSTER.

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HOW ARE KIDS SUPPOSED TO FOCUS

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ON THEIR MATH WORKSHEET WHEN

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"MEATBALL" OVER HERE IS

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SPRINTING ON HIS WHEEL LIKE HE'S

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ON COKE, ROLLING AROUND

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CHAOTICALLY IN A TOILET PAPER

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TUBE, AND PANIC-STUFFING HIS

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CHEEKS WITH A MONTH'S SUPPLY OF

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CARROT CHUNKS?

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HE LOOKS LIKE MARLON BRANDO IN

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"THE GODFATHER," AND THOSE KIDS

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ARE SUPPOSED TO FOCUS ON MATH?

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IT'S NOT HAPPENING!

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BUT THAT IS WHO VANCE ACTUALLY

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IS.

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AND AT THE END OF THE DEBATE, HE

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LET A GLIMPSE OF THAT COME

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THROUGH, WHEN THE SUBJECT TURNED

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TO THE LAST ELECTION, AND HE

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OFFERED THIS REVISIONIST

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HISTORY.

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REMEMBER, HE SAID THAT ON

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JANUARY 6TH, THE PROTESTERS

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OUGHT TO PROTEST PEACEFULLY.

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AND ON JANUARY 20TH, WHAT

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HAPPENED?

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JOE BIDEN BECAME THE PRESIDENT.

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DONALD TRUMP LEFT

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THE WHITE HOUSE.

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DID HE LOSE THE 2020

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ELECTION?

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TIM, I'M FOCUSED ON THE

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FUTURE.

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THAT IS A DAMNING-- THAT IS

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A DAMNING NONANSWER.

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John: YEAH, IT IS.

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"I'M FOCUSED ON THE FUTURE" IS

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ONE OF THE MOST GENERIC,

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STORE-BRAND FUCKBOY DEFLECTIONS

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THERE IS.

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IT'S NO WONDER TIM WALZ BROKE

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THE FOURTH WALL THERE LIKE HE

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WAS IN "ABBOTT ELEMENTARY."

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BECAUSE "I'M FOCUSED ON THE

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FUTURE" IS WHAT YOU SAY WHEN YOU

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WANT TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT.

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IF NOT, YOU JUST ANSWER THE

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QUESTION.

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I'LL SHOW YOU:

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"JOHN, HAVE YOU EVER MURDERED

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SOMEONE?"

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NO, I HAVEN'T.

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"HAVE YOU EVER BEEN MISTAKEN FOR

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PENN BADGLEY?"

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NO, I HAVEN'T.

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"HAVE YOU EVER BEEN FORCIBLY

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REMOVED FROM A RAINFOREST CAFE

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FOR INSISTING THAT THE FROG WAS

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COMING ON TO YOU?"

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LOOK, I'M FOCUSED ON THE FUTURE.

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I'M MOVING FORWARD.

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AND THAT ANSWER WAS ESPECIALLY

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GLARING CONSIDERING THE DAY

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AFTER THE DEBATE, A JUDGE

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UNSEALED SPECIAL PROSECUTOR

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JACK SMITH'S BRIEF IN THE

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ELECTION FRAUD CASE AGAINST

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TRUMP, REMINDING US YET AGAIN OF

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THE RIDICULOUS STEPS HE TOOK TO

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AVOID LEAVING OFFICE.

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THE BRIEF PRESENTS THE

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FULLEST PICTURE YET OF SMITH'S

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CASE THAT TRUMP KNEW HE LOST,

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BUT LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

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ANYWAY.

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PROSECUTORS CLAIM THEY SPOKE TO

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ONE WHITE HOUSE STAFFER WHO SAID

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HE OVERHEARD TRUMP TELLING

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FAMILY MEMBERS, "IT DOESN'T

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MATTER IF YOU WON OR LOST THE

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ELECTION.

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YOU STILL HAVE TO FIGHT LIKE

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HELL.

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John: BUT IT SUPER MATTERS IF

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YOU LOST!

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IT'S KIND OF THE MAIN THING THAT

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MATTERS.

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THAT IS THE MOST UNSETTLING

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THING YOU COULD POSSIBLY

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OVERHEAR IF YOU WORK IN THE

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WHITE HOUSE, INCLUDING LBJ

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ORDERING PANTS WITH MORE ROOM

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AROUND HIS "BUNGHOLE"-- REAL

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ONES WILL KNOW-- AND COMMANDER

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BIDEN MAULING HIS 78TH

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SECRET SERVICE AGENT.

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AND WHILE THERE IS A LOT IN THE

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FILING WE ALREADY KNEW-- LIKE

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TRUMP RESPONDING AFTER BEING

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TOLD MIKE PENCE HAD TO BE

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EVACUATED FROM THE CAPITOL WITH

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"SO WHAT?"-- IT ALSO FEATURED

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NEW DETAILS, LIKE TRUMP AT ONE

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POINT MUTING SIDNEY POWELL WHEN

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SHE WAS OUTLINING HER BOGUS

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FRAUD CLAIMS, TELLING PEOPLE SHE

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WAS "CRAZY."

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AND IF I EVER FOUND OUT I LIED

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SO BADLY THAT DONALD TRUMP MUTED

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THE CALL TO SAY, "THIS IS SOME

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CRAZY SHIT," YOU'D NEVER SEE ME

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AGAIN.

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I WOULD WALK DIRECTLY INTO THE

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OCEAN.

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AND NONE OF THIS IS THEORETICAL.

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IF HE LOSES NEXT MONTH, THERE'S

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EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE TRUMP

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WILL DISPUTE THE RESULTS AGAIN.

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AND VANCE HAS MADE IT CLEAR HE'S

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GOT NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

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AND THAT ALONE SHOULD BE

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DISQUALIFYING.

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FOR ALL THE TALK THIS WEEK ABOUT

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HIS "CIVILITY" AT THE DEBATE,

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LET'S NOT FORGET, HE'S THE SAME

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COLOSSAL DIPSHIT WHO SPEWS

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RIGHT-WING HATE WITH DISTRESSING

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EASE, AND CONTINUES TO DEFEND

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THE BIG LIE THAT THE LAST

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ELECTION WAS STOLEN.

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IT IS ALL TREMENDOUSLY BLEAK,

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WHICH IS WHY-- TO BORROW A

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PHRASE I HEARD RECENTLY-- "I AM

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FOCUSED ON THE FUTURE"--

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SPECIFICALLY, ONE IN WHICH IN

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FOUR WEEKS' TIME, TRUMP

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HOPEFULLY LOSES THIS FUCKING

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ELECTION.

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AND NOW, THIS.

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♪ ♪

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Announcer: AND NOW...

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MIKA BRZEZINSKI WOULD LIKE HER

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COHOST TO PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK

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UP ABOUT A SPORTS THERAPIST

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BECAUSE THEIR QUARTERBACK DID AN

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EXTRAORDINARY JOB.

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LET'S STOP PRETENDING THAT THE

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SEC DOESN'T PLAY IN A COMPLETELY

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DIFFERENT LEVEL THAN EVERYBODY

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ELSE.

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ALL RIGHT.

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NOW LET'S JUST STOP TALKING

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ABOUT SPORTS AND DO THE NEWS.

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EVEN DOWN 2-0 TONIGHT,

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MADISON SQUARE IS GOING TO BE

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CRAZY.

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OKAY.

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I'M GOING TO MOVE ON.

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A COUPLE OF INCREDIBLE GAMES

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TOMORROW.

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WORLD CUP GAMES TOMORROW.

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WE ARE GOING FRANCE.

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I'M GOING TO TAKE THE

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FURNITURE OUT--

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BRAZIL.

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THERE MIGHT BE A GAME 7.

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MIKA, I SWEAR WE WILL GET OFF

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SPORTS.

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PLEASE, WE WILL GET TO MORE

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SPORTS LATER.

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WE WILL GET TO THE NEWS NOW.

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NO, WE WANT.

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BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH

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TIME FOR SPORT SPIRITS.

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THIS HAS TO PUT HIM UP

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THERE--

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HOLD ON.

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MIKA!

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HE IS TALKING ABOUT MAN CITY.

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LET ME ASK YOU A FORMER

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BASEBALL QUESTION.

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WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT SPORTS

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TODAY.

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ON THE 5-YARD LINE-- MIKA

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THANKS, OH, SUPER BOWL.

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DO YOU JUST KEEP TALKING ABOUT

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BASEBALL JUST UPSET MIKA?

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IS THIS--

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YES.

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IS IT?

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YOU SHOULD JUST PICK UP YOUR

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DEVICE OR READ THE PAPER

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WHENEVER THEY GO TO SPORTS.

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I CLEAN MY PURSE.

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OF THE NEW YORK KNICKS, THE

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LAST TIME THE ADVANCE TO THE

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FINALS IN 2000.

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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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John: MOVING ON.

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OUR MAIN STORY TONIGHT CONCERNS

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CARS: WHERE GOLF CARTS SEE

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THEMSELVES IN FIVE YEARS.

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SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO

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TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC STOPS, THE

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MOST COMMON LAW ENFORCEMENT

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INTERACTION IN AMERICA.

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POLICE PULL OVER MORE THAN

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50,000 DRIVERS ON A TYPICAL DAY,

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ADDING UP TO MORE THAN

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20 MILLION MOTORISTS A YEAR.

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AND THEY DO SO FOR ALL SORTS OF

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REASONS-- FROM SPEEDING, TO

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BROKEN TAIL LIGHTS, TO--

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SPECTACULARLY-- THIS.

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THE WAY HE CAME UP TO THE

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TRUCK, I KNEW.

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I WAS LIKE, "OH, I DONE PISSED

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THIS MAN OFF."

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HE'S MAD ABOUT SOMETHING.

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"YOU'RE UNDER ARREST,"

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AND I WAS LIKE, "FOR WHAT?

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FOR-- WHAT DID I DO?"

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THE REASON I PULLED YOU OVER

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IS YOUR DEROGATORY STICKER ON

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THE BACK OF YOUR TRUCK.

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IT'S WORDS.

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OKAY, WELL, WHAT DO THOSE WORDS

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MEAN?

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IT'S "ASS, EAT."

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"I EAT ASS."

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OKAY.

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IF I TOLD YOU I WENT TO JAIL

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FOR A STICKER, YEAH, WHATEVER,

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DUDE.

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LIKE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO

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BELIEVE THAT.

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ALL IN CAPITAL LETTERS.

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"I EAT ASS."

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John: YES.

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EVERY PART OF THAT IS EXCELLENT.

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VERY MUCH INCLUDING THE

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"ASS ME ABOUT MY FIRST AMENDMENT

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RIGHTS" T-SHIRT, WHICH IS A

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MASTERCLASS IN PERSONAL

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BRANDING.

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THOUGH-- I'M JUST GOING TO SAY

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IT--

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THAT GUY DOESN'T STRIKE ME AS A

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REAL EATER.

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DON'T GET ME WRONG.

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I'M SURE HE'S ENTHUSIASTIC.

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BUT ATTENTIVE AND WILLING TO

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FOLLOW DIRECTIONS?

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ABSOLUTELY NOT.

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BUT AS YOU UNDOUBTEDLY KNOW, NOT

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ALL TRAFFIC STOPS MAKE THE NEWS

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BECAUSE THEY'RE RIDICULOUS.

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SOMETIMES, IT'S BECAUSE THEY END

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IN VIOLENCE.

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SINCE 2017, POLICE HAVE KILLED

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AT LEAST 813 PEOPLE DURING

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TRAFFIC STOPS, WITH BLACK PEOPLE

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DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED,

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MAKING UP 29% OF THOSE KILLED,

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DESPITE REPRESENTING ONLY AROUND

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14% OF THE POPULATION.

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WE'VE ALL SEEN THE VIDEOS OF

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HIGH-PROFILE KILLINGS LIKE THOSE

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OF PHILANDO CASTILE,

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DAUNTE WRIGHT, OR TYRE NICHOLS.

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THE HORROR OF THOSE VIDEOS

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SHOULD BE SEARED INTO OUR

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COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS BY NOW,

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SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE PLAYING

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ANY OF THAT FOOTAGE TONIGHT.

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AND FOR BLACK PEOPLE IN

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PARTICULAR, THOSE INCIDENTS HAVE

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HIGHLIGHTED WHAT THEY ALREADY

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KNOW ONLY TOO WELL-- THAT

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DRIVING COMES WITH A CONSTANT

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UNDERCURRENT OF FEAR.

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WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO DRIVE

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WHILE BLACK?

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DRIVING SCARED.

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EVERY TIME YOU GET IN YOUR

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VEHICLE, YOU'RE SCARED BECAUSE

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IF ANY COP GETS BEHIND YOU, IF

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YOU ASK ANY AFRICAN AMERICAN,

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OUR HEARTS INSTANTLY DROP.

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IT MEANS TO DRIVE AROUND IN

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FEAR.

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IT MEANS TO DRIVE AROUND AND

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ALSO HOPE.

527
00:13:07,854 --> 00:13:09,488
WHAT'S THE HOPE?

528
00:13:09,489 --> 00:13:10,456
HOPE THAT WE MAKE IT HOME

529
00:13:10,457 --> 00:13:11,023
SAFE.

530
00:13:11,024 --> 00:13:12,191
HOW DO YOU THINK YOUR LIFE

531
00:13:12,192 --> 00:13:13,058
WOULD BE DIFFERENT IF YOU WERE A

532
00:13:13,059 --> 00:13:13,592
WHITE DUDE?

533
00:13:13,593 --> 00:13:16,462
FOR DRIVING PURPOSES, I

534
00:13:16,463 --> 00:13:17,096
WOULDN'T WORRY EVERY TIME I SEE

535
00:13:17,097 --> 00:13:17,629
A COP.

536
00:13:17,630 --> 00:13:20,265
John: LOOK, THERE ARE LOTS OF

537
00:13:20,266 --> 00:13:21,667
THINGS PEOPLE HAVE TO WORRY

538
00:13:21,668 --> 00:13:22,134
ABOUT WHILE DRIVING--

539
00:13:22,135 --> 00:13:22,735
GETTING LOST, GETTING INTO AN

540
00:13:22,736 --> 00:13:24,069
ACCIDENT, GETTING STOPPED BY A

541
00:13:24,070 --> 00:13:25,237
CROSSWALK FLASH MOB WHERE

542
00:13:25,238 --> 00:13:27,072
JAMES CORDON THRUSTS AT YOUR CAR

543
00:13:27,073 --> 00:13:28,173
WHILE DRESSED LIKE A LARGE

544
00:13:28,174 --> 00:13:29,341
MOUSE.

545
00:13:29,342 --> 00:13:30,109
ALL REAL AND UPSETTING

546
00:13:30,110 --> 00:13:32,244
POSSIBILITIES!

547
00:13:32,245 --> 00:13:33,645
BUT NO ONE SHOULD ALSO HAVE TO

548
00:13:33,646 --> 00:13:34,380
WORRY ABOUT GETTING HARASSED OR

549
00:13:34,381 --> 00:13:35,814
POTENTIALLY KILLED.

550
00:13:35,815 --> 00:13:37,683
AND WHILE THE INCIDENTS THAT

551
00:13:37,684 --> 00:13:39,351
GIVE RISE TO THAT FEAR OFTEN GET

552
00:13:39,352 --> 00:13:40,586
DISCUSSED AS THE RESULT OF

553
00:13:40,587 --> 00:13:42,521
INDIVIDUAL "BAD APPLE" COPS, THE

554
00:13:42,522 --> 00:13:44,223
TRUTH IS, THEY'RE THE INEVITABLE

555
00:13:44,224 --> 00:13:45,557
RESULT OF DELIBERATE DECISIONS

556
00:13:45,558 --> 00:13:47,626
THAT HAVE TURNED TRAFFIC STOPS

557
00:13:47,627 --> 00:13:48,394
INTO A SYSTEMIC ISSUE.

558
00:13:48,395 --> 00:13:49,561
SO TONIGHT, LET'S TALK ABOUT

559
00:13:49,562 --> 00:13:51,430
TRAFFIC STOPS:

560
00:13:51,431 --> 00:13:53,532
THE POWER WE'VE GIVEN TO COPS

561
00:13:53,533 --> 00:13:55,000
DURING THEM, HOW THEY EXERCISE

562
00:13:55,001 --> 00:13:56,869
AND OFTEN ABUSE THAT POWER, AND

563
00:13:56,870 --> 00:13:57,970
SOME SIMPLE WAYS WE CAN START TO

564
00:13:57,971 --> 00:13:59,104
CHANGE ALL THIS.

565
00:13:59,105 --> 00:14:00,773
AND LET'S START BY ACKNOWLEDGING

566
00:14:00,774 --> 00:14:02,608
THAT POLICE DO PULL PEOPLE OVER

567
00:14:02,609 --> 00:14:04,810
FOR COMPLETELY LEGITIMATE ROAD

568
00:14:04,811 --> 00:14:05,744
SAFETY REASONS, LIKE DANGEROUS

569
00:14:05,745 --> 00:14:07,212
SPEEDING OR DRUNK DRIVING.

570
00:14:07,213 --> 00:14:08,447
AND YOU WANT THOSE PEOPLE OFF

571
00:14:08,448 --> 00:14:09,815
THE ROADS.

572
00:14:09,816 --> 00:14:11,550
YOU DON'T NEED ME TO SHOW YOU A

573
00:14:11,551 --> 00:14:12,951
CLIP ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF

574
00:14:12,952 --> 00:14:14,586
ROAD SAFETY, BUT I'M GOING TO DO

575
00:14:14,587 --> 00:14:16,055
THAT ANYWAY, BECAUSE WHEN ELSE

576
00:14:16,056 --> 00:14:16,955
AM I GOING TO HAVE THE CHANCE TO

577
00:14:16,956 --> 00:14:20,125
SHOW YOU THIS?

578
00:14:20,126 --> 00:14:24,430
AN ACCIDENT!

579
00:14:24,431 --> 00:14:26,198
THE HUMANS HAD AN ACCIDENT!

580
00:14:26,199 --> 00:14:28,067
THERE WAS A CHILD IN THE CAR!

581
00:14:28,068 --> 00:14:32,171
A CHILD?

582
00:14:32,172 --> 00:14:32,471
A CHILD!

583
00:14:32,472 --> 00:14:33,639
CATS HAVE NINE LIVES.

584
00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,074
CHILDREN ONLY ONE.

585
00:14:35,075 --> 00:14:36,275
HELP THEM LIVE THAT LIFE.

586
00:14:36,276 --> 00:14:37,776
BUCKLE THEM INTO A CAR SEAT.

587
00:14:37,777 --> 00:14:39,044
NO ONE WANTS A CHILD TO BECOME

588
00:14:39,045 --> 00:14:41,480
OUR MEMORY.

589
00:14:41,481 --> 00:14:43,582
♪ MEMORY ♪

590
00:14:43,583 --> 00:14:46,085
♪ ALL ALONE IN THE

591
00:14:46,086 --> 00:14:49,455
MOONLIGHT ♪

592
00:14:49,456 --> 00:14:51,623
John: WELL, THAT WAS A LOT!

593
00:14:51,624 --> 00:14:52,324
I'D ALMOST FORGOTTEN ALL THOSE

594
00:14:52,325 --> 00:14:54,793
WEIRD CHARACTERS FROM "CATS",

595
00:14:54,794 --> 00:14:57,329
LIKE ANJELICASPLAT, TURNIP,

596
00:14:57,330 --> 00:14:58,297
ZAZZLE-SKUNK, OLD COLOSTOMY,

597
00:14:58,298 --> 00:14:59,965
SKEEZLE-JIZZ, NIPPLE-TWISTER,

598
00:14:59,966 --> 00:15:01,266
AND MISTER BUMBLEFUCK.

599
00:15:01,267 --> 00:15:02,835
I DON'T REMEMBER THEIR REAL

600
00:15:02,836 --> 00:15:04,670
NAMES, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE

601
00:15:04,671 --> 00:15:05,537
THAT'S CLOSE ENOUGH.

602
00:15:05,538 --> 00:15:06,071
AND LET ME SAY THIS: THAT

603
00:15:06,072 --> 00:15:09,308
MUSICAL IS AN ABOMINATION.

604
00:15:09,309 --> 00:15:09,875
IF THERE IS EVER A DAY THAT

605
00:15:09,876 --> 00:15:12,444
ANDREW LLOYD WEBBER HAS NO

606
00:15:12,445 --> 00:15:13,712
HATERS, THAT MEANS THAT I AM

607
00:15:13,713 --> 00:15:15,314
DEAD, AND SO, BY THE WAY, IS

608
00:15:15,315 --> 00:15:15,647
PATTI LuPONE.

609
00:15:15,648 --> 00:15:16,181
BUT OF COURSE, THAT AD IS

610
00:15:16,182 --> 00:15:16,682
COMPLETELY RIGHT.

611
00:15:16,683 --> 00:15:17,716
YOU DON'T WANT SOMEONE DRIVING

612
00:15:17,717 --> 00:15:20,019
UNSAFELY TO CLAIM THE LIFE OF A

613
00:15:20,020 --> 00:15:24,523
CHILD, A CHILD, A CHILD.

614
00:15:24,524 --> 00:15:26,625
BUT THE TRUTH IS, LOTS OF STOPS

615
00:15:26,626 --> 00:15:28,060
AREN'T ABOUT SAFETY AT ALL.

616
00:15:28,061 --> 00:15:29,661
IN FACT, MANY ARE SO-CALLED

617
00:15:29,662 --> 00:15:30,996
"PRETEXTUAL" STOPS-- BASICALLY,

618
00:15:30,997 --> 00:15:33,732
THE POLICE USING A MINOR TRAFFIC

619
00:15:33,733 --> 00:15:34,667
VIOLATION TO DETAIN YOU, WHILE

620
00:15:34,668 --> 00:15:35,601
THEY INVESTIGATE FOR FURTHER

621
00:15:35,602 --> 00:15:36,235
EVIDENCE OF CRIMES LIKE ILLEGAL

622
00:15:36,236 --> 00:15:37,469
GUNS OR DRUGS.

623
00:15:37,470 --> 00:15:38,737
AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF LEEWAY TO

624
00:15:38,738 --> 00:15:40,172
DO THAT.

625
00:15:40,173 --> 00:15:41,740
BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO

626
00:15:41,741 --> 00:15:43,409
SEARCHING YOUR HOUSE, THE FOURTH

627
00:15:43,410 --> 00:15:44,610
AMENDMENT GENERALLY REQUIRES

628
00:15:44,611 --> 00:15:45,678
POLICE GET A WARRANT APPROVED BY

629
00:15:45,679 --> 00:15:47,046
A JUDGE BEFOREHAND.

630
00:15:47,047 --> 00:15:48,681
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO CARS, THE

631
00:15:48,682 --> 00:15:51,150
COURTS DECIDED THAT-- BECAUSE

632
00:15:51,151 --> 00:15:52,351
CARS CAN DRIVE AWAY-- REQUIRING

633
00:15:52,352 --> 00:15:53,318
A WARRANT IS IMPRACTICAL.

634
00:15:53,319 --> 00:15:54,386
SO OVER THE YEARS,

635
00:15:54,387 --> 00:15:55,421
THE SUPREME COURT'S

636
00:15:55,422 --> 00:15:57,056
GIVEN POLICE WIDE DISCRETION IN

637
00:15:57,057 --> 00:15:58,957
HOW A TRAFFIC STOP IS HANDLED.

638
00:15:58,958 --> 00:16:00,359
AND IN 1996, IN

639
00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,594
WHREN VS. THE U.S., IT FULLY

640
00:16:02,595 --> 00:16:04,963
LEGALIZED PRETEXTUAL STOPS,

641
00:16:04,964 --> 00:16:05,964
UNANIMOUSLY RULING THAT THE

642
00:16:05,965 --> 00:16:08,600
"CONSTITUTIONAL REASONABLENESS"

643
00:16:08,601 --> 00:16:09,601
OF A STOP DID NOT DEPEND ON THE

644
00:16:09,602 --> 00:16:11,203
"ACTUAL MOTIVATIONS OF THE

645
00:16:11,204 --> 00:16:12,604
INDIVIDUAL OFFICERS INVOLVED."

646
00:16:12,605 --> 00:16:14,773
ESSENTIALLY, AS LONG AS POLICE

647
00:16:14,774 --> 00:16:17,242
HAVE EVIDENCE OF A TRAFFIC

648
00:16:17,243 --> 00:16:18,811
VIOLATION, HOWEVER MINOR, THEY

649
00:16:18,812 --> 00:16:20,212
CAN USE A SIMPLE STOP TO START A

650
00:16:20,213 --> 00:16:21,146
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.

651
00:16:21,147 --> 00:16:23,015
AND WHAT THIS MEANS IN PRACTICE

652
00:16:23,016 --> 00:16:24,149
IS THAT A LOT OF STOPS NOW

653
00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:25,684
AMOUNT TO JUST SHAKING PEOPLE

654
00:16:25,685 --> 00:16:26,752
DOWN TO SEE WHAT CRIMES FALL

655
00:16:26,753 --> 00:16:27,653
OUT.

656
00:16:27,654 --> 00:16:29,922
ONE OF THE POPULAR MANUALS FOR

657
00:16:29,923 --> 00:16:30,889
TRAINING POLICE IN TRAFFIC

658
00:16:30,890 --> 00:16:33,058
INVESTIGATIONS FLAT-OUT STATES,

659
00:16:33,059 --> 00:16:33,792
"CRIMINAL PATROL IN LARGE PART

660
00:16:33,793 --> 00:16:35,227
IS A NUMBERS GAME" AND

661
00:16:35,228 --> 00:16:36,028
"YOU NEED A LOT OF CONTACTS TO

662
00:16:36,029 --> 00:16:37,296
FIND THE RELATIVELY FEW FELONY

663
00:16:37,297 --> 00:16:38,364
OFFENDERS YOU'RE MOST INTERESTED

664
00:16:38,365 --> 00:16:39,999
IN."

665
00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,667
ONE FORMER OFFICER HAS EVEN

666
00:16:41,668 --> 00:16:43,602
ADMITTED, "WE FISH.

667
00:16:43,603 --> 00:16:44,703
IF I FOLLOW A CAR FOR FIVE

668
00:16:44,704 --> 00:16:46,972
MINUTES, I CAN ALWAYS FIND ONE

669
00:16:46,973 --> 00:16:47,940
OR TWO MOVING VIOLATIONS."

670
00:16:47,941 --> 00:16:50,009
AND THAT'S TRUE.

671
00:16:50,010 --> 00:16:51,810
THERE ARE SO MANY LAWS ON THE

672
00:16:51,811 --> 00:16:52,711
BOOKS, A COP CAN ALWAYS FIND A

673
00:16:52,712 --> 00:16:55,047
REASON TO PULL SOMEONE OVER.

674
00:16:55,048 --> 00:16:56,782
EXPERTS SAY FINDING THE

675
00:16:56,783 --> 00:16:58,150
INITIAL REASON TO PULL SOMEONE

676
00:16:58,151 --> 00:16:59,885
OVER IS EASY.

677
00:16:59,886 --> 00:17:01,520
THAT BECAME QUICKLY APPARENT

678
00:17:01,521 --> 00:17:02,554
DURING AN AFTERNOON WITH AN

679
00:17:02,555 --> 00:17:03,789
OFFICER OF THE OAKLAND,

680
00:17:03,790 --> 00:17:05,691
CALIFORNIA, POLICE DEPARTMENT.

681
00:17:05,692 --> 00:17:08,594
THIS INFINITI THAT DROVE BY

682
00:17:08,595 --> 00:17:09,528
HAS A BUMPER THAT'S LOOSE.

683
00:17:09,529 --> 00:17:10,429
THAT'S A VEHICLE CODE VIOLATION.

684
00:17:10,430 --> 00:17:11,430
ALL LIGHTS MUST WORK, RIGHT?

685
00:17:11,431 --> 00:17:12,064
SO HIS TOP BRAKE LIGHT DOES NOT

686
00:17:12,065 --> 00:17:13,265
WORK.

687
00:17:13,266 --> 00:17:13,966
SO I CAN STOP HIM FOR THAT.

688
00:17:13,967 --> 00:17:15,401
John: RIGHT.

689
00:17:15,402 --> 00:17:17,369
AND IT'S NOT JUST LOOSE BUMPERS.

690
00:17:17,370 --> 00:17:18,671
THERE ARE TONS OF MINOR

691
00:17:18,672 --> 00:17:20,139
INFRACTIONS ON THE BOOKS.

692
00:17:20,140 --> 00:17:21,473
MASSACHUSETTS HAS A LIST OF

693
00:17:21,474 --> 00:17:22,841
TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS THAT'S

694
00:17:22,842 --> 00:17:24,043
25 PAGES LONG.

695
00:17:24,044 --> 00:17:27,680
FLORIDA'S IS 32 PAGES.

696
00:17:27,681 --> 00:17:29,748
AND IN NEW YORK CITY, THE LIST

697
00:17:29,749 --> 00:17:32,785
IS 135 PAGES LONG.

698
00:17:32,786 --> 00:17:33,385
AND NO DRIVER IS GOING TO BE

699
00:17:33,386 --> 00:17:36,422
FAMILIAR WITH EVERY SINGLE RULE.

700
00:17:36,423 --> 00:17:37,656
NO ONE IS READING THAT WHOLE

701
00:17:37,657 --> 00:17:38,057
THING!

702
00:17:38,058 --> 00:17:39,058
NOT EVEN ME, AND I HAVE RESTING

703
00:17:39,059 --> 00:17:39,558
"READS TRAFFIC CODES FOR

704
00:17:39,559 --> 00:17:41,293
PLEASURE" FACE.

705
00:17:41,294 --> 00:17:42,227
AND SOME OF THE LAWS AROUND THE

706
00:17:42,228 --> 00:17:43,929
COUNTRY ARE TRULY ABSURD.

707
00:17:43,930 --> 00:17:45,431
SOME STATES, FOR INSTANCE, HAVE

708
00:17:45,432 --> 00:17:46,065
LAWS THAT PROHIBIT DRIVERS FROM

709
00:17:46,066 --> 00:17:48,033
HANGING OBJECTS FROM THEIR

710
00:17:48,034 --> 00:17:49,668
REARVIEW MIRRORS, INCLUDING

711
00:17:49,669 --> 00:17:52,137
AIR FRESHENERS AND ROSARY BEADS.

712
00:17:52,138 --> 00:17:52,771
INCIDENTALLY, A DANGLING

713
00:17:52,772 --> 00:17:53,939
AIR FRESHENER WAS A

714
00:17:53,940 --> 00:17:56,342
JUSTIFICATION FOR PULLING OVER

715
00:17:56,343 --> 00:17:57,042
DAUNTE WRIGHT.

716
00:17:57,043 --> 00:17:58,477
BUT MANY OFFICERS WILL INSIST

717
00:17:58,478 --> 00:18:00,079
PRETEXTUAL STOPS ARE ESSENTIAL

718
00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,082
TO FIGHTING CRIME.

719
00:18:03,083 --> 00:18:04,016
HERE IS A POLICE CHIEF,

720
00:18:04,017 --> 00:18:04,650
EXPLAINING WHY STOPPING SOMEONE

721
00:18:04,651 --> 00:18:05,451
FOR HAVING SOMETHING AS

722
00:18:05,452 --> 00:18:06,051
INNOCUOUS AS AN AIR FRESHENER

723
00:18:06,052 --> 00:18:08,320
ACTUALLY MAKES TOTAL SENSE.

724
00:18:08,321 --> 00:18:09,355
SO IT COULD SEEM PETTY TO

725
00:18:09,356 --> 00:18:11,690
SOME PEOPLE.

726
00:18:11,691 --> 00:18:12,257
BUT IN MY 32 YEARS IN

727
00:18:12,258 --> 00:18:13,525
LAW ENFORCEMENT, I'VE SEEN MANY

728
00:18:13,526 --> 00:18:14,626
MINOR TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS LEAD TO

729
00:18:14,627 --> 00:18:15,961
BIG ARRESTS.

730
00:18:15,962 --> 00:18:17,429
WANTED FELONS, FUGITIVES FROM

731
00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:23,369
JUSTICE, MURDER SUSPECTS.

732
00:18:23,370 --> 00:18:23,902
John: BUT THAT IS STILL

733
00:18:23,903 --> 00:18:25,971
PETTY.

734
00:18:25,972 --> 00:18:26,972
IT IS PETTY TO PULL SOMEONE OVER

735
00:18:26,973 --> 00:18:27,539
FOR NOT WANTING THEIR CAR TO

736
00:18:27,540 --> 00:18:28,407
SMELL LIKE FARTS AND A YOGURT

737
00:18:28,408 --> 00:18:30,242
THEY KNOW IS BACK THERE

738
00:18:30,243 --> 00:18:31,677
SOMEWHERE BUT CANNOT FIND.

739
00:18:31,678 --> 00:18:33,312
AND WHEN PRESSED FOR EVIDENCE OF

740
00:18:33,313 --> 00:18:34,380
PRETEXTUAL STOPS BEING AN

741
00:18:34,381 --> 00:18:34,980
EFFECTIVE CRIME FIGHTING TOOL,

742
00:18:34,981 --> 00:18:36,882
COPS WILL CONSTANTLY BRING UP

743
00:18:36,883 --> 00:18:38,283
THAT THIS IS HOW A STATE TROOPER

744
00:18:38,284 --> 00:18:39,918
CAUGHT OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBER

745
00:18:39,919 --> 00:18:40,719
TIMOTHY McVEIGH, BY STOPPING HIM

746
00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:41,887
FOR DRIVING WITH NO LICENSE

747
00:18:41,888 --> 00:18:42,488
PLATE.

748
00:18:42,489 --> 00:18:44,823
IT'S A CASE THAT NOW HOLDS

749
00:18:44,824 --> 00:18:45,357
MYTHIC STATUS AMONG POLICE

750
00:18:45,358 --> 00:18:47,092
OFFICERS.

751
00:18:47,093 --> 00:18:48,460
WHICH IS A LITTLE WEIRD, BECAUSE

752
00:18:48,461 --> 00:18:49,762
ONE, HE WAS ONLY CAUGHT AFTER

753
00:18:49,763 --> 00:18:51,096
THE BOMBING-- WHICH, TO BE

754
00:18:51,097 --> 00:18:52,164
HONEST, FEELS A LITTLE MORE LIKE

755
00:18:52,165 --> 00:18:53,132
A MISS THAN A HIT.

756
00:18:53,133 --> 00:18:54,299
AND TWO, THE REASON THEY WERE

757
00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:56,602
ABLE TO ARREST HIM IS BECAUSE

758
00:18:56,603 --> 00:18:57,803
McVEIGH WAS CARRYING A CONCEALED

759
00:18:57,804 --> 00:18:59,605
WEAPON, SOMETHING WHICH IS NOT

760
00:18:59,606 --> 00:19:00,272
ACTUALLY ILLEGAL IN OKLAHOMA

761
00:19:00,273 --> 00:19:02,174
ANYMORE.

762
00:19:02,175 --> 00:19:03,809
SO IF WE'VE ALL GOT OUR DICKS UP

763
00:19:03,810 --> 00:19:05,411
FOR "HANGING ON TO LAWS THAT

764
00:19:05,412 --> 00:19:06,712
CAUGHT TIMOTHY McVEIGH," LET'S

765
00:19:06,713 --> 00:19:08,313
GO AHEAD AND ADD GUN CONTROL TO

766
00:19:08,314 --> 00:19:12,551
THAT PILE, SHALL WE?

767
00:19:12,552 --> 00:19:13,552
[APPLAUSE]

768
00:19:13,553 --> 00:19:15,354
BUT THE TRUTH IS, RESEARCH HAS

769
00:19:15,355 --> 00:19:16,822
CONSISTENTLY SHOWN PRETEXTUAL

770
00:19:16,823 --> 00:19:17,589
STOPS DO VERY LITTLE TO MAKE US

771
00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:17,790
SAFER.

772
00:19:17,791 --> 00:19:21,460
A PHILADELPHIA STUDY FOUND THAT,

773
00:19:21,461 --> 00:19:23,762
OUT OF 300,000 STOPS, ONLY 0.67%

774
00:19:23,763 --> 00:19:25,998
RECOVERED ANY SORT OF CONTRABAND

775
00:19:25,999 --> 00:19:28,500
-- WHICH COULD INCLUDE WEED--

776
00:19:28,501 --> 00:19:29,368
AND JUST 0.17% RECOVERED ANY

777
00:19:29,369 --> 00:19:30,035
WEAPONS.

778
00:19:30,036 --> 00:19:32,104
SO WHEN YOU MEASURE THE SUCCESS

779
00:19:32,105 --> 00:19:33,572
RATE OF PRETEXTUAL STOPS WITH

780
00:19:33,573 --> 00:19:34,873
ANY METRIC OTHER THAN

781
00:19:34,874 --> 00:19:37,176
"PERCENTAGE OF TIMOTHY McVEIGHS

782
00:19:37,177 --> 00:19:38,610
CAUGHT," THEY'RE A TREMENDOUS

783
00:19:38,611 --> 00:19:39,845
WASTE OF TIME.

784
00:19:39,846 --> 00:19:41,413
ALSO, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, IN

785
00:19:41,414 --> 00:19:42,514
SOME SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES,

786
00:19:42,515 --> 00:19:43,115
POLICE AREN'T JUST LOOKING FOR

787
00:19:43,116 --> 00:19:44,249
CRIMES.

788
00:19:44,250 --> 00:19:45,884
THEY'RE LOOKING FOR MONEY.

789
00:19:45,885 --> 00:19:47,319
THERE ARE TOWNS AROUND THE

790
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,220
COUNTRY THAT HAVE RESORTED TO

791
00:19:48,221 --> 00:19:49,621
RAMPING UP TICKETING WHILE

792
00:19:49,622 --> 00:19:53,926
ENDURING BUDGETARY SHORTFALLS.

793
00:19:53,927 --> 00:19:54,693
BASICALLY, AS SOON AS THEIR

794
00:19:54,694 --> 00:19:55,227
BALANCE SHEET GETS WORSE,

795
00:19:55,228 --> 00:19:56,128
MAGICALLY, IT SEEMS, SO DO THE

796
00:19:56,129 --> 00:19:56,762
DRIVING SKILLS OF THE PEOPLE IN

797
00:19:56,763 --> 00:19:58,364
THEIR COMMUNITY.

798
00:19:58,365 --> 00:19:59,465
WE'VE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT THE

799
00:19:59,466 --> 00:20:01,266
PRACTICE OF USING MUNICIPAL

800
00:20:01,267 --> 00:20:02,735
VIOLATIONS TO FUND LOCAL

801
00:20:02,736 --> 00:20:03,969
GOVERNMENT, IN PLACES LIKE

802
00:20:03,970 --> 00:20:05,104
FERGUSON, MISSOURI, AND

803
00:20:05,105 --> 00:20:05,537
BROOKSIDE, ALABAMA.

804
00:20:05,538 --> 00:20:08,474
AND PEOPLE CAN STILL WIND UP

805
00:20:08,475 --> 00:20:09,041
BEING STOPPED, TICKETED, AND

806
00:20:09,042 --> 00:20:09,675
EVEN IMPRISONED FOR INABILITY TO

807
00:20:09,676 --> 00:20:11,977
PAY.

808
00:20:11,978 --> 00:20:13,479
BECAUSE IN 17 STATES, MINOR

809
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,015
TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS ARE

810
00:20:16,016 --> 00:20:16,715
ARRESTABLE OFFENSES THAT COME

811
00:20:16,716 --> 00:20:19,051
WITH A CRIMINAL RECORD.

812
00:20:19,052 --> 00:20:20,519
AND EVEN IN STATES WHERE THAT'S

813
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,353
NOT THE CASE, PEOPLE CAN STILL

814
00:20:21,354 --> 00:20:22,254
END UP IN JAIL BECAUSE MANY

815
00:20:22,255 --> 00:20:23,789
PLACES CAN LOCK YOU UP FOR

816
00:20:23,790 --> 00:20:24,890
FAILURE TO PAY FINES.

817
00:20:24,891 --> 00:20:27,092
JUST LISTEN TO THIS WOMAN FROM

818
00:20:27,093 --> 00:20:29,028
ST. LOUIS EXPLAIN HOW TRAFFIC

819
00:20:29,029 --> 00:20:29,661
FINES CAN QUICKLY SPIRAL INTO A

820
00:20:29,662 --> 00:20:32,197
DIRE SITUATION.

821
00:20:32,198 --> 00:20:35,134
HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU BEEN

822
00:20:35,135 --> 00:20:37,936
STOPPED?

823
00:20:37,937 --> 00:20:38,837
I'M IN ST. LOUIS.

824
00:20:38,838 --> 00:20:40,372
I DON'T KEEP COUNT OF THAT.

825
00:20:40,373 --> 00:20:41,907
FIVE?

826
00:20:41,908 --> 00:20:42,808
TEN?

827
00:20:42,809 --> 00:20:44,410
KEEP GOING.

828
00:20:44,411 --> 00:20:45,711
TEN WAS THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF

829
00:20:45,712 --> 00:20:47,946
TIMES I'VE BEEN LOCKED UP.

830
00:20:47,947 --> 00:20:49,081
SO TAKE THAT AND DOUBLE IT.

831
00:20:49,082 --> 00:20:50,349
I'VE BEEN STOPPED NO LESS THAN

832
00:20:50,350 --> 00:20:51,050
20 TIMES.

833
00:20:51,051 --> 00:20:52,117
IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO

834
00:20:52,118 --> 00:20:52,685
PAY THE FINE, YOU CAN GO TO

835
00:20:52,686 --> 00:20:52,885
COURT.

836
00:20:52,886 --> 00:20:55,521
WHEN YOU GO TO COURT, THEY'LL

837
00:20:55,522 --> 00:20:57,356
TELL YOU COURT COSTS, TICKET,

838
00:20:57,357 --> 00:20:57,956
PLUS FEES, DA, DA, DA, DA, DA.

839
00:20:57,957 --> 00:21:00,225
YOU NOW OWE $300.

840
00:21:00,226 --> 00:21:00,926
DO YOU HAVE $300 TO PAY TODAY?

841
00:21:00,927 --> 00:21:01,493
NO.

842
00:21:01,494 --> 00:21:02,728
ALL RIGHT, PUT YOU ON PAYMENT

843
00:21:02,729 --> 00:21:04,063
PLAN.

844
00:21:04,064 --> 00:21:07,866
SO EVERY MONTH, COME SEE US AND

845
00:21:07,867 --> 00:21:08,334
PAY THIS BY THE 21ST.

846
00:21:08,335 --> 00:21:09,535
IF NOT, WE'LL ISSUE YOU A

847
00:21:09,536 --> 00:21:09,968
WARRANT ON THE 22ND.

848
00:21:09,969 --> 00:21:11,704
MAKE YOUR PAYMENTS ON TIME

849
00:21:11,705 --> 00:21:13,839
OKAY.

850
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,674
SO LET'S SAY, YOU DON'T MAKE

851
00:21:15,675 --> 00:21:16,308
THAT PAYMENT, YOU GET A WARRANT.

852
00:21:16,309 --> 00:21:16,742
SO WHAT DO YOU DO?

853
00:21:16,743 --> 00:21:17,843
IF YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES, YOU

854
00:21:17,844 --> 00:21:19,011
CAN PAY, BUT MOST PEOPLE DON'T

855
00:21:19,012 --> 00:21:20,045
HAVE THE RESOURCES.

856
00:21:20,046 --> 00:21:21,513
SO YOU JUST-- YOU RUN.

857
00:21:21,514 --> 00:21:22,781
AND CATCH ME IF YOU CAN.

858
00:21:22,782 --> 00:21:23,782
HOW MANY WARRANTS DID YOU

859
00:21:23,783 --> 00:21:25,050
RACK UP?

860
00:21:25,051 --> 00:21:26,018
AT ONE POINT IN TIME, I WAS

861
00:21:26,019 --> 00:21:27,119
WANTED IN 11 DIFFERENT

862
00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:28,687
MUNICIPALITIES.

863
00:21:28,688 --> 00:21:29,755
11 DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES.

864
00:21:29,756 --> 00:21:33,192
HOW DID YOU LIVE WITH THAT?

865
00:21:33,193 --> 00:21:34,593
CAREFULLY.

866
00:21:34,594 --> 00:21:35,227
John: YEAH, THAT SEEMS ABOUT

867
00:21:35,228 --> 00:21:36,195
RIGHT!

868
00:21:36,196 --> 00:21:37,896
ASKING, "HOW DO YOU LIVE WITH

869
00:21:37,897 --> 00:21:39,498
11 WARRANTS?" IS A BIT LIKE

870
00:21:39,499 --> 00:21:40,933
ASKING, "HOW DO YOU HOLD A

871
00:21:40,934 --> 00:21:42,534
NEWBORN BABY?" OR "HOW DO YOU

872
00:21:42,535 --> 00:21:44,837
GIVE A PORCUPINE A HAND JOB?"

873
00:21:44,838 --> 00:21:45,504
THE ANSWER IS: FUCKING

874
00:21:45,505 --> 00:21:48,474
CAREFULLY.

875
00:21:48,475 --> 00:21:50,576
AND THE COST OF THESE STOPS IS

876
00:21:50,577 --> 00:21:51,076
BORNE OVERWHELMINGLY BY

877
00:21:51,077 --> 00:21:51,744
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, AND

878
00:21:51,745 --> 00:21:52,845
PARTICULARLY BLACK DRIVERS.

879
00:21:52,846 --> 00:21:54,847
ONE ANALYSIS OF MASSACHUSETTS

880
00:21:54,848 --> 00:21:56,882
COUNTY FOUND THAT POLICE PULL

881
00:21:56,883 --> 00:21:57,683
OVER BLACK DRIVERS AT MORE THAN

882
00:21:57,684 --> 00:21:59,451
TWICE THE RATE OF WHITE DRIVERS

883
00:21:59,452 --> 00:22:00,786
FOR NONTRAFFIC SAFETY

884
00:22:00,787 --> 00:22:03,155
VIOLATIONS, LIKE A BROKEN

885
00:22:03,156 --> 00:22:03,422
TAILLIGHT.

886
00:22:03,423 --> 00:22:05,190
AND MANY POLICE DEPARTMENTS--

887
00:22:05,191 --> 00:22:06,025
EVEN LARGE ONES-- WILL OBSCURE

888
00:22:06,026 --> 00:22:08,594
THIS BY SIMPLY REFUSING TO TRACK

889
00:22:08,595 --> 00:22:09,194
THE RACIAL MAKEUP OF WHO THEY

890
00:22:09,195 --> 00:22:10,529
STOP AND TICKET.

891
00:22:10,530 --> 00:22:12,164
WHILE OTHERS WILL GATHER THE

892
00:22:12,165 --> 00:22:14,099
DATA, BUT FAIL TO CONNECT THE

893
00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:14,967
DOTS AS TO WHAT IT MEANS.

894
00:22:14,968 --> 00:22:16,268
JUST WATCH THIS POLICE OFFICIAL

895
00:22:16,269 --> 00:22:17,803
IN NEW JERSEY CITE DATA OF HIS

896
00:22:17,804 --> 00:22:19,104
OWN, BEFORE HAVING HIS CASE

897
00:22:19,105 --> 00:22:21,073
DESTROYED WITH A SIMPLE

898
00:22:21,074 --> 00:22:22,241
STATISTIC.

899
00:22:22,242 --> 00:22:26,111
I MEAN, I PULLED OUR MOTOR

900
00:22:26,112 --> 00:22:27,646
VEHICLE STOP DATA BY RACE THIS

901
00:22:27,647 --> 00:22:28,180
MORNING BEFORE WE DID THE

902
00:22:28,181 --> 00:22:28,647
INTERVIEW TO GET IT IN

903
00:22:28,648 --> 00:22:31,617
REAL-TIME.

904
00:22:31,618 --> 00:22:33,318
AND WE'RE AT 1814 MOTOR VEHICLE

905
00:22:33,319 --> 00:22:36,021
STOPS FOR THE YEAR SO FAR.

906
00:22:36,022 --> 00:22:40,259
AND 576 ARE HISPANIC, 573 WHITE,

907
00:22:40,260 --> 00:22:41,927
AND 574 AFRICAN-AMERICAN.

908
00:22:41,928 --> 00:22:42,561
SO IT IS PRETTY EVEN ACROSS THE

909
00:22:42,562 --> 00:22:43,662
BOARD.

910
00:22:43,663 --> 00:22:45,197
AND IF IT EVER SPIKES, THEN

911
00:22:45,198 --> 00:22:46,098
WE'LL INVESTIGATE WHY.

912
00:22:46,099 --> 00:22:48,167
YEAH, BUT WHAT YOU JUST TOLD

913
00:22:48,168 --> 00:22:48,767
ME IS REALLY STARK BECAUSE 60%

914
00:22:48,768 --> 00:22:51,570
OF THE POPULATION OF BLOOMFIELD

915
00:22:51,571 --> 00:22:53,439
IS WHITE AND ONLY ABOUT 20% OF

916
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:53,972
THE POPULATION IS BLACK.

917
00:22:53,973 --> 00:22:57,743
SO HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THAT?

918
00:22:57,744 --> 00:22:58,711
UM, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IT'S

919
00:22:58,712 --> 00:22:59,378
BASICALLY WHERE OUR POLICE

920
00:22:59,379 --> 00:23:00,112
OFFICERS ARE DEPLOYED.

921
00:23:00,113 --> 00:23:01,880
John: RIGHT!

922
00:23:01,881 --> 00:23:03,315
IT'S ABOUT WHERE YOUR OFFICERS

923
00:23:03,316 --> 00:23:06,118
ARE DEPLOYED!

924
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,252
YOU ARE SO CLOSE TO FIGURING IT

925
00:23:07,253 --> 00:23:07,419
OUT.

926
00:23:07,420 --> 00:23:08,387
YOU JUST NEED TO SEE THE OBVIOUS

927
00:23:08,388 --> 00:23:08,687
CONCLUSION.

928
00:23:08,688 --> 00:23:09,755
IT'S LIKE WATCHING A

929
00:23:09,756 --> 00:23:11,557
FOURTH GRADER DO A

930
00:23:11,558 --> 00:23:12,658
MULTIPLICATION PROBLEM ON THE

931
00:23:12,659 --> 00:23:13,425
BLACKBOARD, GET ALL THE WAY TO

932
00:23:13,426 --> 00:23:13,992
THE END, AND THEN WRITE THE

933
00:23:13,993 --> 00:23:15,394
ANSWER, "WOODY ALLEN IS

934
00:23:15,395 --> 00:23:15,661
INNOCENT."

935
00:23:15,662 --> 00:23:16,995
NO, WHAT?

936
00:23:16,996 --> 00:23:18,597
HOW DID YOU GET TO THAT?

937
00:23:18,598 --> 00:23:20,132
THE ANSWER'S STARING YOU IN THE

938
00:23:20,133 --> 00:23:21,467
FACE, YOU IDIOT!

939
00:23:21,468 --> 00:23:24,336
AND LOOK, RACIAL PROFILING

940
00:23:24,337 --> 00:23:25,738
DURING TRAFFIC STOPS IS

941
00:23:25,739 --> 00:23:26,839
OBVIOUSLY NOTHING NEW-- FROM

942
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,307
THE JIM CROW ERA SOUTH, ALL THE

943
00:23:28,308 --> 00:23:29,241
WAY THROUGH THE '80s, WHEN COPS

944
00:23:29,242 --> 00:23:31,143
WERE TRAINED USING A DRUG

945
00:23:31,144 --> 00:23:32,845
COURIER PROFILE, WHICH HAD THEM

946
00:23:32,846 --> 00:23:33,479
LOOKING FOR SUPPOSEDLY TELLTALE

947
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,548
TRAITS LIKE "DREADLOCKS" AND

948
00:23:36,549 --> 00:23:38,684
"WEARING LOTS OF GOLD JEWELRY."

949
00:23:38,685 --> 00:23:39,952
WHICH IS PROFILING BOTH

950
00:23:39,953 --> 00:23:43,022
BLACK PEOPLE AND I GUESS,

951
00:23:43,023 --> 00:23:44,490
VERY OCCASIONALLY, WHITE GIRLS

952
00:23:44,491 --> 00:23:45,124
NAMED BRANCH WHO MAKE THEIR OWN

953
00:23:45,125 --> 00:23:45,457
TAMPONS.

954
00:23:45,458 --> 00:23:48,060
BUT SHE'S GOING TO BE FINE.

955
00:23:48,061 --> 00:23:48,527
HER DAD IS A SENATOR.

956
00:23:48,528 --> 00:23:49,628
AND THAT WAS EVEN BEFORE THAT

957
00:23:49,629 --> 00:23:51,497
SUPREME COURT CASE I MENTIONED

958
00:23:51,498 --> 00:23:52,931
EARLIER, WHICH RAISED THE BAR TO

959
00:23:52,932 --> 00:23:54,400
PROVE CASES OF RACIAL BIAS.

960
00:23:54,401 --> 00:23:57,770
BECAUSE TO DO THAT NOW, YOU NEED

961
00:23:57,771 --> 00:23:59,672
TO ESTABLISH INTENT, WHICH IS

962
00:23:59,673 --> 00:24:00,305
OBVIOUSLY HARD, BECAUSE NO COP'S

963
00:24:00,306 --> 00:24:01,740
GOING TO EXPLICITLY ADMIT THEY

964
00:24:01,741 --> 00:24:03,142
PULLED YOU OVER BECAUSE OF YOUR

965
00:24:03,143 --> 00:24:05,310
RACE.

966
00:24:05,311 --> 00:24:06,145
AND THAT HAS LED COURTS TO ALLOW

967
00:24:06,146 --> 00:24:07,246
SOME PRETTY EXPLICIT PROFILING.

968
00:24:07,247 --> 00:24:09,648
ONE FEDERAL JUDGE EVEN REJECTED

969
00:24:09,649 --> 00:24:10,282
CLAIMS OF RACIAL INTENT AFTER AN

970
00:24:10,283 --> 00:24:11,216
OFFICER JUSTIFIED PULLING OVER A

971
00:24:11,217 --> 00:24:15,054
BLACK DRIVER BY SAYING, "ONE CAN

972
00:24:15,055 --> 00:24:16,221
NEVER TELL WITH YOU PEOPLE."

973
00:24:16,222 --> 00:24:18,557
AND IF THAT DOESN'T PROVE RACIAL

974
00:24:18,558 --> 00:24:20,826
INTENT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT DOES.

975
00:24:20,827 --> 00:24:23,829
EVEN MORE RECENTLY, JUST LISTEN

976
00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:24,697
TO THE OFFICER WHO PULLED OVER

977
00:24:24,698 --> 00:24:25,497
PHILANDO CASTILE-- FOR A BROKEN

978
00:24:25,498 --> 00:24:26,932
TAILLIGHT, BY THE WAY--

979
00:24:26,933 --> 00:24:29,001
EXPLAINING ON THE RADIO

980
00:24:29,002 --> 00:24:29,635
BEFOREHAND WHY HE WAS ABOUT TO

981
00:24:29,636 --> 00:24:31,704
DO THAT.

982
00:24:31,705 --> 00:24:33,339
I'M GOING TO STOP THE CAR.

983
00:24:33,340 --> 00:24:34,139
I'M GOING TO CHECK IDs.

984
00:24:34,140 --> 00:24:35,741
I HAVE REASON TO PULL OVER.

985
00:24:35,742 --> 00:24:38,243
THE DRIVER LOOKS MORE LIKE ONE

986
00:24:38,244 --> 00:24:40,145
OF OUR SUSPECTS, JUST CAUSE OF

987
00:24:40,146 --> 00:24:41,213
THE WIDE-SET NOSE.

988
00:24:41,214 --> 00:24:43,282
John: HOLY SHIT.

989
00:24:43,283 --> 00:24:44,717
IT IS HARD TO ARGUE YOU'RE NOT

990
00:24:44,718 --> 00:24:45,684
PROFILING SOMEONE WHEN YOU'RE

991
00:24:45,685 --> 00:24:46,585
PULLING THEM OVER BECAUSE OF

992
00:24:46,586 --> 00:24:48,420
THEIR FACE'S LITERAL PROFILE.

993
00:24:48,421 --> 00:24:49,688
CASTILE WAS APPARENTLY PULLED

994
00:24:49,689 --> 00:24:51,790
OVER IN AND AROUND ST. PAUL,

995
00:24:51,791 --> 00:24:53,859
MINNESOTA, 46 TIMES, AMASSING

996
00:24:53,860 --> 00:24:57,296
MORE THAN $5,000 IN FINES.

997
00:24:57,297 --> 00:24:57,896
AND HIS MOTHER IS PRETTY CLEAR

998
00:24:57,897 --> 00:24:59,665
ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING TO HIM.

999
00:24:59,666 --> 00:25:00,299
WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR SON WAS

1000
00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:03,535
STOPPED SO MANY TIMES?

1001
00:25:03,536 --> 00:25:07,239
BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK.

1002
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,707
I MEAN, NOBODY CAN BE THAT

1003
00:25:08,708 --> 00:25:09,575
UNLUCKY.

1004
00:25:09,576 --> 00:25:11,744
AND NOBODY IS THAT HORRIBLE OF A

1005
00:25:11,745 --> 00:25:13,045
DRIVER.

1006
00:25:13,046 --> 00:25:14,580
IT WASN'T, HE RAN A STOP SIGN OR

1007
00:25:14,581 --> 00:25:16,548
HE WAS IN A CAR ACCIDENT.

1008
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:19,284
IT'S NONE OF THAT.

1009
00:25:19,285 --> 00:25:20,452
IT'S WHAT THEY CALL NOW PRETEXT

1010
00:25:20,453 --> 00:25:22,321
STOPS.

1011
00:25:22,322 --> 00:25:23,188
John: YEAH.

1012
00:25:23,189 --> 00:25:24,089
SHE'S JUST STATING THE OBVIOUS

1013
00:25:24,090 --> 00:25:26,191
THERE.

1014
00:25:26,192 --> 00:25:27,059
THERE IS NO OTHER

1015
00:25:27,060 --> 00:25:27,426
INTERPRETATION.

1016
00:25:27,427 --> 00:25:29,395
IT'S NOT SOME BIG UNSOLVABLE

1017
00:25:29,396 --> 00:25:30,896
MYSTERY, LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO

1018
00:25:30,897 --> 00:25:32,197
AMELIA EARHART?

1019
00:25:32,198 --> 00:25:32,798
OR WHERE DO ALL YOUR SOCKS GO

1020
00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:33,999
WHEN YOU WASH THEM?

1021
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,067
OR WHAT THE FUCK DO THESE TWO

1022
00:25:35,068 --> 00:25:36,835
TALK ABOUT?

1023
00:25:36,836 --> 00:25:38,070
QUESTIONS NO ONE HAS AN ANSWER

1024
00:25:38,071 --> 00:25:38,904
TO.

1025
00:25:38,905 --> 00:25:40,039
I'M NOT SAYING I'M NOT HAPPY FOR

1026
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,941
THEM.

1027
00:25:42,942 --> 00:25:44,476
I AM HAPPY FOR THEM.

1028
00:25:44,477 --> 00:25:45,644
I'M HAPPY FOR THEM.

1029
00:25:45,645 --> 00:25:46,879
I'M SAYING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT

1030
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:47,513
THEIR DINNER TABLE CONVERSATION

1031
00:25:47,514 --> 00:25:48,113
IS LIKE, AND I DON'T THINK YOU

1032
00:25:48,114 --> 00:25:50,749
DO, EITHER.

1033
00:25:50,750 --> 00:25:53,118
BUT WE ARE HAPPY FOR THEM.

1034
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,386
I AM HAPPY FOR THEM.

1035
00:25:54,387 --> 00:25:56,455
THE POINT IS,

1036
00:25:56,456 --> 00:25:57,523
THE STAKES HERE ARE INCREDIBLY

1037
00:25:57,524 --> 00:25:57,723
HIGH.

1038
00:25:57,724 --> 00:25:58,924
AND INFURIATINGLY, COPS WILL

1039
00:25:58,925 --> 00:25:59,558
SOMETIMES GLIBLY REMIND DRIVERS

1040
00:25:59,559 --> 00:25:59,792
OF THAT.

1041
00:25:59,793 --> 00:26:00,359
JUST WATCH THIS INTERACTION

1042
00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:01,627
BETWEEN A FLORIDA OFFICER AND A

1043
00:26:01,628 --> 00:26:04,163
DRIVER HE SAW AS UNCOOPERATIVE.

1044
00:26:04,164 --> 00:26:05,431
29-YEAR-OLD GERARDSON

1045
00:26:05,432 --> 00:26:07,032
NICHOLAS WAS ON HIS WAY TO WORK

1046
00:26:07,033 --> 00:26:07,633
WHEN HE WAS PULLED OVER BY AN

1047
00:26:07,634 --> 00:26:09,234
OFFICER FOR NOT WEARING HIS

1048
00:26:09,235 --> 00:26:09,802
SEATBELT.

1049
00:26:09,803 --> 00:26:11,103
LET'S SHOW YOU HOW IT ALL WENT

1050
00:26:11,104 --> 00:26:11,403
DOWN.

1051
00:26:11,404 --> 00:26:12,104
GOING TO JAIL TODAY?

1052
00:26:12,105 --> 00:26:12,771
I'M-- I'M GOING TO WORK,

1053
00:26:12,772 --> 00:26:13,872
MAN.

1054
00:26:13,873 --> 00:26:14,940
NO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WORK.

1055
00:26:14,941 --> 00:26:18,977
I'M GOING TO WORK.

1056
00:26:18,978 --> 00:26:19,978
YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ME YOUR

1057
00:26:19,979 --> 00:26:20,612
DRIVER'S LICENSE, REGISTRATION,

1058
00:26:20,613 --> 00:26:21,380
AND INSURANCE.

1059
00:26:21,381 --> 00:26:22,915
IF NOT, YOU WILL NOT BE GOING TO

1060
00:26:22,916 --> 00:26:24,083
WORK TODAY.

1061
00:26:24,084 --> 00:26:25,284
SIMPLE THING, MAN.

1062
00:26:25,285 --> 00:26:26,585
THIS IS HOW YOU GUYS GET KILLED

1063
00:26:26,586 --> 00:26:28,387
OUT HERE, MAN.

1064
00:26:28,388 --> 00:26:29,188
WHAT?

1065
00:26:29,189 --> 00:26:31,824
SAY THAT AGAIN.

1066
00:26:31,825 --> 00:26:33,659
John: YEAH, "SAY THAT AGAIN."

1067
00:26:33,660 --> 00:26:34,259
THERE'S A LOT TO OBJECT TO IN

1068
00:26:34,260 --> 00:26:36,195
THAT EXCHANGE, BUT LET'S ZERO IN

1069
00:26:36,196 --> 00:26:37,996
ON THE PASSIVITY OF THE WORDS

1070
00:26:37,997 --> 00:26:39,898
"GET KILLED" AS IF A SHOOTING IS

1071
00:26:39,899 --> 00:26:41,300
GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT JUST

1072
00:26:41,301 --> 00:26:42,067
HAPPENS AS OPPOSED TO AN ACTION

1073
00:26:42,068 --> 00:26:43,035
THAT OFFICER WOULD BE CHOOSING

1074
00:26:43,036 --> 00:26:44,903
TO TAKE.

1075
00:26:44,904 --> 00:26:46,605
AND ONE MAJOR REASON WHY COPS

1076
00:26:46,606 --> 00:26:48,307
MAY BE ESPECIALLY JUMPY DURING

1077
00:26:48,308 --> 00:26:49,541
STOPS IS THEY'RE ACTIVELY TAUGHT

1078
00:26:49,542 --> 00:26:50,976
TO FEAR THEM.

1079
00:26:50,977 --> 00:26:52,678
TRAINERS AND TACTICAL GUIDES

1080
00:26:52,679 --> 00:26:53,679
OFTEN CLAIM THAT VEHICLE STOPS

1081
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,580
ACCOUNT FOR MORE KILLINGS OF

1082
00:26:54,581 --> 00:26:56,048
OFFICERS THAN ALMOST ANY OTHER

1083
00:26:56,049 --> 00:26:57,049
TYPE OF INTERACTION.

1084
00:26:57,050 --> 00:26:58,717
AND POLICE TRAINING REINFORCES

1085
00:26:58,718 --> 00:27:00,619
ALL OF THIS.

1086
00:27:00,620 --> 00:27:01,920
JUST LAST YEAR, SOME FOOTAGE

1087
00:27:01,921 --> 00:27:03,655
CAME TO LIGHT FROM A SIX-DAY

1088
00:27:03,656 --> 00:27:05,991
TRAINING CONFERENCE FOR COPS

1089
00:27:05,992 --> 00:27:07,059
HELD IN NEW JERSEY, A

1090
00:27:07,060 --> 00:27:07,926
SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF WHICH

1091
00:27:07,927 --> 00:27:09,028
FOCUSED ON TRAFFIC

1092
00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:09,661
INVESTIGATIONS, AND ALSO

1093
00:27:09,662 --> 00:27:11,764
FEATURED THIS BOLD MOTIVATIONAL

1094
00:27:11,765 --> 00:27:13,732
SPEECH.

1095
00:27:13,733 --> 00:27:14,667
I LOVE WHAT THE FUCK I DO FOR

1096
00:27:14,668 --> 00:27:15,434
A LIVING.

1097
00:27:15,435 --> 00:27:16,201
THERE'S NOTHING ELSE I'M GOOD

1098
00:27:16,202 --> 00:27:17,436
AT.

1099
00:27:17,437 --> 00:27:19,304
I LOVE VIOLENCE, I LOVE

1100
00:27:19,305 --> 00:27:20,139
FIGHTING, I LOVE SHOOTING, AND I

1101
00:27:20,140 --> 00:27:21,573
FUCKING LOVE FREEDOM.

1102
00:27:21,574 --> 00:27:22,875
IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO THAT WE

1103
00:27:22,876 --> 00:27:23,676
WERE DRINKING OUT OF THE SKULLS

1104
00:27:23,677 --> 00:27:25,878
OF OUR ENEMIES.

1105
00:27:25,879 --> 00:27:27,112
LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, I'M GONNA

1106
00:27:27,113 --> 00:27:27,946
FUCKING MURDER THIS GUY, THEN

1107
00:27:27,947 --> 00:27:28,547
I'M GONNA TAKE HIS HEAD, THEN

1108
00:27:28,548 --> 00:27:29,948
I'M GONNA CUT HIS HEAD IN HALF,

1109
00:27:29,949 --> 00:27:32,384
AND THEN I'M GONNA BOIL HIS

1110
00:27:32,385 --> 00:27:33,385
SKULL, AND THEN I'M GONNA DRINK

1111
00:27:33,386 --> 00:27:36,155
OUT OF THAT SKULL.

1112
00:27:36,156 --> 00:27:38,390
FUCKING RAD, RIGHT?

1113
00:27:38,391 --> 00:27:40,259
John: OKAY, FEW THINGS.

1114
00:27:40,260 --> 00:27:41,593
FIRST: NO, NOT FUCKING RAD.

1115
00:27:41,594 --> 00:27:42,194
SECOND: I DO BELIEVE YOU THAT

1116
00:27:42,195 --> 00:27:43,429
THERE'S NOTHING ELSE YOU'RE GOOD

1117
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:44,630
AT.

1118
00:27:44,631 --> 00:27:45,964
AND LEAST IMPORTANTLY, WHY ARE

1119
00:27:45,965 --> 00:27:46,565
YOU WEARING A SHIRT COVERED IN

1120
00:27:46,566 --> 00:27:48,400
ELEGANT BIRDS?

1121
00:27:48,401 --> 00:27:49,735
YOU'RE TALKING LIKE A DERANGED

1122
00:27:49,736 --> 00:27:51,403
SERIAL KILLER, BUT DRESSED LIKE

1123
00:27:51,404 --> 00:27:52,938
YOU'RE AT BRUNCH IN

1124
00:27:52,939 --> 00:27:53,505
WEST PALM BEACH.

1125
00:27:53,506 --> 00:27:54,440
THAT SHIRT DOESN'T REMOTELY

1126
00:27:54,441 --> 00:27:55,974
MATCH YOUR PERSONA, WHICH, FROM

1127
00:27:55,975 --> 00:27:56,909
WHAT I CAN TELL IS "WHAT IF

1128
00:27:56,910 --> 00:27:57,876
SOMEONE FED MILO VENTIMIGLIA

1129
00:27:57,877 --> 00:27:58,977
NOTHING BUT RAW MEAT AND

1130
00:27:58,978 --> 00:28:01,013
TRAUMA?"

1131
00:28:01,014 --> 00:28:02,147
THAT CONFERENCE WAS RUN BY A

1132
00:28:02,148 --> 00:28:03,549
COMPANY CALLED "STREET COP

1133
00:28:03,550 --> 00:28:05,184
TRAINING"-- WHOSE LOGO

1134
00:28:05,185 --> 00:28:05,751
APPARENTLY FEATURES AN EAGLE

1135
00:28:05,752 --> 00:28:07,619
DRY-HUMPING A POLICE BADGE.

1136
00:28:07,620 --> 00:28:09,722
THE COMPANY ESTIMATES IT TRAINS

1137
00:28:09,723 --> 00:28:11,657
BETWEEN 25,000 AND 30,000

1138
00:28:11,658 --> 00:28:13,992
OFFICERS NATIONWIDE EVERY YEAR.

1139
00:28:13,993 --> 00:28:16,028
IN FACT, BETWEEN 2020 AND 2023,

1140
00:28:16,029 --> 00:28:17,996
PUBLIC AGENCIES IN AT LEAST

1141
00:28:17,997 --> 00:28:19,765
46 STATES PROVIDED DIRECT

1142
00:28:19,766 --> 00:28:22,401
PAYMENT TO STREET COP TRAINING.

1143
00:28:22,402 --> 00:28:24,036
THAT CONFERENCE YOU JUST SAW WAS

1144
00:28:24,037 --> 00:28:24,536
ATTENDED BY NEARLY 1,000

1145
00:28:24,537 --> 00:28:25,604
OFFICERS FROM AROUND THE

1146
00:28:25,605 --> 00:28:28,273
COUNTRY, WHO-- IN ADDITION TO

1147
00:28:28,274 --> 00:28:28,874
HEARING SPEECHES-- WERE ALSO

1148
00:28:28,875 --> 00:28:29,608
GIVEN WHAT WAS CALLED A

1149
00:28:29,609 --> 00:28:30,809
"REASONABLE SUSPICION FACTORS"

1150
00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:32,277
CHECKLIST-- A LIST OF BEHAVIORS

1151
00:28:32,278 --> 00:28:35,681
SUPPOSEDLY INDICATING WHEN A

1152
00:28:35,682 --> 00:28:36,648
DRIVER IS TRYING TO COVER UP A

1153
00:28:36,649 --> 00:28:37,082
MORE SERIOUS CRIME.

1154
00:28:37,083 --> 00:28:38,017
IT ADVISES LOOKING OUT FOR

1155
00:28:38,018 --> 00:28:39,785
THINGS LIKE "PASSENGERS ON THEIR

1156
00:28:39,786 --> 00:28:41,553
CELL PHONE, USUALLY TEXTING"

1157
00:28:41,554 --> 00:28:42,521
DURING A STOP, AND "NOT ALWAYS,

1158
00:28:42,522 --> 00:28:44,923
BUT OFTEN YAWNING."

1159
00:28:44,924 --> 00:28:46,091
THE CHECKLIST ALSO SAYS IT'S

1160
00:28:46,092 --> 00:28:48,427
SUSPICIOUS IF A DRIVER LOOKS

1161
00:28:48,428 --> 00:28:49,661
AWAY FROM THE POLICE CAR WHILE

1162
00:28:49,662 --> 00:28:50,462
PASSING IT, BUT ALSO IF THEY

1163
00:28:50,463 --> 00:28:52,398
LOOK AT IT.

1164
00:28:52,399 --> 00:28:53,532
LEAVING THE OPTION OF "CLOSING

1165
00:28:53,533 --> 00:28:55,934
YOUR EYES WHILE DRIVING PAST A

1166
00:28:55,935 --> 00:28:57,002
POLICE CAR" WHICH FEELS...

1167
00:28:57,003 --> 00:28:57,503
BAD.

1168
00:28:57,504 --> 00:28:59,104
AND YOU KNOW WHO'D AGREE?

1169
00:28:59,105 --> 00:28:59,705
THOSE ROAD SAFETY FREAKS FROM

1170
00:28:59,706 --> 00:29:01,240
"CATS."

1171
00:29:01,241 --> 00:29:03,008
YOU KNOW, LIKE RUMPLE-WEASEL,

1172
00:29:03,009 --> 00:29:04,376
CRUMPLE-BUTT, JUMBLE-SCAT,

1173
00:29:04,377 --> 00:29:05,811
LICKETY-FLOP, JAZZLE-BANGER,

1174
00:29:05,812 --> 00:29:07,880
JINGLE-SPHINCTER, AND

1175
00:29:07,881 --> 00:29:10,749
OF COURSE, OLD TINKLE-SHIT.

1176
00:29:10,750 --> 00:29:11,350
AGAIN, I DON'T REMEMBER THEIR

1177
00:29:11,351 --> 00:29:12,084
NAMES, AND I'M NOT WILLING TO

1178
00:29:12,085 --> 00:29:14,053
LEARN.

1179
00:29:14,054 --> 00:29:16,321
ALL IN ALL, WHAT WAS TAUGHT AT

1180
00:29:16,322 --> 00:29:17,690
THAT CONFERENCE WAS SO

1181
00:29:17,691 --> 00:29:18,757
EGREGIOUS, NEW JERSEY'S OFFICE

1182
00:29:18,758 --> 00:29:19,792
OF THE STATE COMPTROLLER FOUND

1183
00:29:19,793 --> 00:29:21,160
THAT A NUMBER OF THE TACTICS

1184
00:29:21,161 --> 00:29:22,361
WERE BOTH UNJUSTIFIABLY

1185
00:29:22,362 --> 00:29:24,430
HARASSING AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

1186
00:29:24,431 --> 00:29:26,131
AND FOR ALL THE FEAR PUMPED INTO

1187
00:29:26,132 --> 00:29:27,066
COPS, I SHOULD NOTE THAT--

1188
00:29:27,067 --> 00:29:30,002
WHILE IT CAN, OF COURSE, BE A

1189
00:29:30,003 --> 00:29:32,271
DANGEROUS JOB-- STUDIES HAVE

1190
00:29:32,272 --> 00:29:35,774
SHOWN THE DANGERS OF STOPS HAVE

1191
00:29:35,775 --> 00:29:37,042
OFFICER'S CHANCE OF BEING KILLED

1192
00:29:37,043 --> 00:29:38,577
DURING A STOP ESTIMATED AT

1193
00:29:38,578 --> 00:29:40,112
SOMEWHERE BETWEEN

1194
00:29:40,113 --> 00:29:41,747
1 IN 3.6 MILLION AND

1195
00:29:41,748 --> 00:29:43,182
1 IN 6.5 MILLION.

1196
00:29:43,183 --> 00:29:44,817
AS ONE D.A. WHO'S CALLED FOR

1197
00:29:44,818 --> 00:29:46,885
POLICE REFORM HAS SAID, THE RISK

1198
00:29:46,886 --> 00:29:48,153
IS STATISTICALLY NEGLIGIBLE, BUT

1199
00:29:48,154 --> 00:29:52,024
EXISTENTIALLY AMPLIFIED.

1200
00:29:52,025 --> 00:29:53,392
AND IT IS NOTABLE THAT, DURING

1201
00:29:53,393 --> 00:29:54,293
CERTAIN ENCOUNTERS, COPS DO SEEM

1202
00:29:54,294 --> 00:29:55,060
ABLE TO HAVE LESS OF A HAIR

1203
00:29:55,061 --> 00:29:55,728
TRIGGER.

1204
00:29:55,729 --> 00:29:58,030
BECAUSE WHILE THAT MAN IN

1205
00:29:58,031 --> 00:30:00,032
FLORIDA GOT LECTURED FOR HAVING

1206
00:30:00,033 --> 00:30:00,666
THE TEMERITY TO TALK BACK TO AN

1207
00:30:00,667 --> 00:30:01,700
OFFICER, JUST WATCH THIS COP

1208
00:30:01,701 --> 00:30:04,336
DEAL WITH A DRIVER IMMEDIATELY

1209
00:30:04,337 --> 00:30:06,038
DOING A LOT MORE THAN THAT.

1210
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:07,006
WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU'RE

1211
00:30:07,007 --> 00:30:09,174
DOING, PULLING ME OVER?

1212
00:30:09,175 --> 00:30:10,009
FOR BLOWING MY HORN?

1213
00:30:10,010 --> 00:30:13,078
SIR, GO BACK INTO YOUR CAR.

1214
00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:14,179
I'LL BE WITH YOU IN A SECOND.

1215
00:30:14,180 --> 00:30:14,780
YOU BETTER CHECK THE

1216
00:30:14,781 --> 00:30:15,514
REGISTRATION ON THIS PLATE SOON,

1217
00:30:15,515 --> 00:30:16,115
MISTER.

1218
00:30:16,116 --> 00:30:17,983
John: WOW.

1219
00:30:17,984 --> 00:30:20,652
THAT GUY EXITED THE CAR WITH

1220
00:30:20,653 --> 00:30:21,987
FULL RIGHTEOUS BITCH ENERGY.

1221
00:30:21,988 --> 00:30:23,155
HE DELIVERED THAT LINE WITH THE

1222
00:30:23,156 --> 00:30:24,156
CONVICTION OF JULIA ROBERTS IN

1223
00:30:24,157 --> 00:30:24,523
"PRETTY WOMAN."

1224
00:30:24,524 --> 00:30:25,124
BIG MISTAKE!

1225
00:30:25,125 --> 00:30:26,291
BIG!

1226
00:30:26,292 --> 00:30:29,528
HUGE!

1227
00:30:29,529 --> 00:30:32,164
THAT GUY, BY THE WAY, WAS A

1228
00:30:32,165 --> 00:30:33,465
COUNTY JUDGE, AND WHEN THE COP

1229
00:30:33,466 --> 00:30:34,233
FOUND THAT OUT, AFTER CHECKING

1230
00:30:34,234 --> 00:30:35,267
HIS REGISTRATION, THIS IS HOW

1231
00:30:35,268 --> 00:30:37,269
THEIR INTERACTION ENDED:

1232
00:30:37,270 --> 00:30:38,570
HAVE A GOOD DAY, JUDGE.

1233
00:30:38,571 --> 00:30:39,705
YOU BET.

1234
00:30:39,706 --> 00:30:41,540
John: "YOU BET."

1235
00:30:41,541 --> 00:30:42,441
RESPONDING TO "HAVE A GOOD DAY"

1236
00:30:42,442 --> 00:30:43,609
WITH "YOU BET" INSTEAD OF SAYING

1237
00:30:43,610 --> 00:30:45,577
"YOU TOO" IS A LEVEL OF PETTY

1238
00:30:45,578 --> 00:30:47,112
SELF-ASSUREDNESS I'LL NEVER

1239
00:30:47,113 --> 00:30:48,414
ATTAIN.

1240
00:30:48,415 --> 00:30:49,782
WHEN THAT MAN ORDERS AT A

1241
00:30:49,783 --> 00:30:51,316
RESTAURANT AND WAITERS TELL HIM,

1242
00:30:51,317 --> 00:30:53,485
"GOOD CHOICE," HE SAYS, "I

1243
00:30:53,486 --> 00:30:54,253
KNOW."

1244
00:30:54,254 --> 00:30:55,354
AND INCIDENTALLY, YOU MIGHT

1245
00:30:55,355 --> 00:30:56,689
ASSUME THE BACK OF HIS CAR IS

1246
00:30:56,690 --> 00:30:57,690
BLACKED OUT THERE TO HIDE HIS

1247
00:30:57,691 --> 00:30:58,424
LICENSE PLATE, BUT I'M GOING TO

1248
00:30:58,425 --> 00:31:00,159
CHOOSE TO BELIEVE IT'S BECAUSE

1249
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,227
HE WAS PROUDLY DISPLAYING ONE OF

1250
00:31:02,228 --> 00:31:04,329
THOSE "I EAT ASS" STICKERS.

1251
00:31:04,330 --> 00:31:06,932
PROVE ME WRONG, JUDGE!

1252
00:31:06,933 --> 00:31:09,802
PROVE ME WRONG!

1253
00:31:09,803 --> 00:31:11,870
[APPLAUSE]

1254
00:31:11,871 --> 00:31:12,504
AND FOR BLACK DRIVERS, EVEN WHEN

1255
00:31:12,505 --> 00:31:13,539
TRAFFIC STOPS DON'T RESULT IN A

1256
00:31:13,540 --> 00:31:14,173
SHOOTING, OR AN ARREST, OR EVEN

1257
00:31:14,174 --> 00:31:16,942
A FINE, THERE CAN STILL BE REAL

1258
00:31:16,943 --> 00:31:17,543
HARM FROM THE STEADY WEAR AND

1259
00:31:17,544 --> 00:31:18,544
TEAR THAT COMES FROM

1260
00:31:18,545 --> 00:31:20,713
DEHUMANIZING INTERACTIONS.

1261
00:31:20,714 --> 00:31:22,047
TAKE WHAT HAPPENED TO

1262
00:31:22,048 --> 00:31:23,716
TAE-AHN LEA, A TEENAGER WHO IN

1263
00:31:23,717 --> 00:31:24,683
2018 WAS DRIVING HOME AFTER

1264
00:31:24,684 --> 00:31:25,317
GRABBING A SLUSHY AND CHIPS AT A

1265
00:31:25,318 --> 00:31:26,652
GAS STATION.

1266
00:31:26,653 --> 00:31:28,187
HE WAS PULLED OVER FOR

1267
00:31:28,188 --> 00:31:29,988
SUPPOSEDLY MAKING TOO WIDE A

1268
00:31:29,989 --> 00:31:31,757
TURN, SUBJECTED TO QUESTIONING

1269
00:31:31,758 --> 00:31:33,192
ABOUT WHETHER HE HAD DRUGS IN

1270
00:31:33,193 --> 00:31:34,360
THE CAR-- WHICH HE DIDN'T--

1271
00:31:34,361 --> 00:31:36,929
AND WAS THEN ORDERED TO STEP

1272
00:31:36,930 --> 00:31:37,796
OUTSIDE, WHERE HE WAS HANDCUFFED

1273
00:31:37,797 --> 00:31:38,731
AND FRISKED WHILE POLICE

1274
00:31:38,732 --> 00:31:39,798
SEARCHED HIS VEHICLE.

1275
00:31:39,799 --> 00:31:40,432
AND JUST WATCH HOW, WHEN A COP

1276
00:31:40,433 --> 00:31:42,067
TRIES TO BLAME HIM FOR THE STOP,

1277
00:31:42,068 --> 00:31:44,570
LEA CALLS HIM ON HIS BULLSHIT.

1278
00:31:44,571 --> 00:31:46,271
IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING

1279
00:31:46,272 --> 00:31:48,474
WHY DO YOU HAVE LIKE THIS

1280
00:31:48,475 --> 00:31:51,944
NEGATIVE VIEW TOWARDS THE

1281
00:31:51,945 --> 00:31:54,246
POLICE, WHAT'S THE DEAL?

1282
00:31:54,247 --> 00:31:55,647
WHATEVER-- WHAT'S EVER HAPPENED

1283
00:31:55,648 --> 00:31:57,049
IN YOUR LIFE PERSONALLY?

1284
00:31:57,050 --> 00:31:57,683
WERE YOU, LIKE, CAN YOU GIVE ME

1285
00:31:57,684 --> 00:31:58,984
A GOOD EXPLANATION?

1286
00:31:58,985 --> 00:32:02,588
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

1287
00:32:02,589 --> 00:32:03,789
REALLY?

1288
00:32:03,790 --> 00:32:05,958
FUCKING, I GRADUATED.

1289
00:32:05,959 --> 00:32:06,425
I GOT A GOOD ASS JOB.

1290
00:32:06,426 --> 00:32:07,593
I GRADUATED WITH THREE FULL-RIDE

1291
00:32:07,594 --> 00:32:09,061
SCHOLARSHIPS.

1292
00:32:09,062 --> 00:32:09,628
I DIDN'T NEVER DO SHIT IN MY

1293
00:32:09,629 --> 00:32:11,530
LIFE.

1294
00:32:11,531 --> 00:32:12,865
I'VE BEEN IN THE HOUSE ALL DAY.

1295
00:32:12,866 --> 00:32:16,301
SO WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?

1296
00:32:16,302 --> 00:32:17,403
LIKE, WHY ARE WE-- WHY ARE WE

1297
00:32:17,404 --> 00:32:19,705
IN THIS SITUATION?

1298
00:32:19,706 --> 00:32:20,873
YOU FUCKING YOU PUT ME IN

1299
00:32:20,874 --> 00:32:21,240
THIS SITUATION.

1300
00:32:21,241 --> 00:32:21,874
WE DIDN'T DO-- WE DIDN'T DO

1301
00:32:21,875 --> 00:32:23,409
IT.

1302
00:32:23,410 --> 00:32:23,876
YOU PULLED ME OVER.

1303
00:32:23,877 --> 00:32:24,643
John: YEAH, OF COURSE IT'S

1304
00:32:24,644 --> 00:32:25,244
THAT COP'S FAULT.

1305
00:32:25,245 --> 00:32:26,078
HE'S PLAYING DUMB WHILE CREATING

1306
00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:29,248
THE PROBLEM!

1307
00:32:29,249 --> 00:32:29,882
IT WOULD BE LIKE ME ASKING YOU:

1308
00:32:29,883 --> 00:32:30,616
"WHY ARE YOU SO BUMMED OUT RIGHT

1309
00:32:30,617 --> 00:32:30,816
NOW?"

1310
00:32:30,817 --> 00:32:31,817
AS IF I HAVEN'T BEEN

1311
00:32:31,818 --> 00:32:32,685
PROFESSIONALLY BUMMING YOU OUT

1312
00:32:32,686 --> 00:32:35,754
FOR THE PAST 25 MINUTES.

1313
00:32:35,755 --> 00:32:37,322
THE COP WHO PULLED LEA OVER

1314
00:32:37,323 --> 00:32:38,691
LATER TESTIFIED THAT HE BELIEVED

1315
00:32:38,692 --> 00:32:40,159
HE WAS ARMED BECAUSE OF "THE

1316
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,127
INTERACTION WITH HIM AND SEEING

1317
00:32:42,128 --> 00:32:44,596
HIM DISPLAY THE NERVOUSNESS,"

1318
00:32:44,597 --> 00:32:45,597
WHICH IS CLEARLY RIDICULOUS.

1319
00:32:45,598 --> 00:32:46,365
AND THANKFULLY, A JUDGE LATER

1320
00:32:46,366 --> 00:32:47,666
SIDED WITH LEA, RULING THAT

1321
00:32:47,667 --> 00:32:48,434
"NERVOUSNESS ALONE IS NOT A

1322
00:32:48,435 --> 00:32:49,668
SUFFICIENT BASIS ON WHICH TO

1323
00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:50,769
ARTICULATE REASONABLE

1324
00:32:50,770 --> 00:32:53,972
SUSPICION."

1325
00:32:53,973 --> 00:32:56,008
A LEGAL RATIONALE EXPERTS REFER

1326
00:32:56,009 --> 00:32:58,077
TO AS "A FUCKIN' DUH."

1327
00:32:58,078 --> 00:32:59,878
THAT COP ALSO TRIED TO JUSTIFY

1328
00:32:59,879 --> 00:33:00,479
HIS ACTIONS BY MENTIONING THE

1329
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,247
PRESENCE OF A SMALL SOUVENIR

1330
00:33:02,248 --> 00:33:03,549
LOUISVILLE SLUGGER BAT IN THE

1331
00:33:03,550 --> 00:33:04,416
CAR, WHICH HE CLAIMED COULD HAVE

1332
00:33:04,417 --> 00:33:06,118
BEEN USED AS A WEAPON.

1333
00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:08,287
BUT YOU SHOULD KNOW THE "BAT" IN

1334
00:33:08,288 --> 00:33:09,321
QUESTION WAS ONE OF THESE,

1335
00:33:09,322 --> 00:33:14,827
WEIGHING ONLY SIX OUNCES.

1336
00:33:14,828 --> 00:33:15,427
AND I'M SORRY, BUT THAT IS NOT

1337
00:33:15,428 --> 00:33:16,128
LONG ENOUGH TO BE A WEAPON.

1338
00:33:16,129 --> 00:33:17,396
IT'S BARELY LONG ENOUGH TO BE

1339
00:33:17,397 --> 00:33:18,497
ONE OF PINOCCHIO'S NOSE BONERS.

1340
00:33:18,498 --> 00:33:20,399
AS THAT STOP CONTINUED, ANOTHER

1341
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,734
COP ARRIVED, AND SO DID LEA'S

1342
00:33:21,735 --> 00:33:23,369
MOTHER, WHO ASKED HIM WHY HER

1343
00:33:23,370 --> 00:33:25,004
SON WAS BEING TREATED THIS WAY.

1344
00:33:25,005 --> 00:33:26,005
AND HE EXPLAINED THEY WERE

1345
00:33:26,006 --> 00:33:27,539
ACTUALLY PART OF A SERIOUS CRIME

1346
00:33:27,540 --> 00:33:29,241
UNIT, AND ESSENTIALLY ADMITTED

1347
00:33:29,242 --> 00:33:29,808
THAT DOING BULLSHIT TRAFFIC

1348
00:33:29,809 --> 00:33:30,409
STOPS WAS A KEY PART OF THEIR

1349
00:33:30,410 --> 00:33:33,379
JOB.

1350
00:33:33,380 --> 00:33:34,646
SO WHAT WE DO-- ONE OF THE

1351
00:33:34,647 --> 00:33:37,616
ASPECTS OF WHAT WE DO IS WE

1352
00:33:37,617 --> 00:33:40,452
FOCUS ON TRAFFIC STOPS, OKAY?

1353
00:33:40,453 --> 00:33:41,053
RIGHT NOW-- YOU LISTENING TO

1354
00:33:41,054 --> 00:33:44,923
ME?

1355
00:33:44,924 --> 00:33:45,924
YEAH, I'M LISTENING.

1356
00:33:45,925 --> 00:33:46,692
RIGHT NOW, THE CITY HAS BEEN

1357
00:33:46,693 --> 00:33:48,093
PLAGUED BY GUN--

1358
00:33:48,094 --> 00:33:48,694
I DON'T WANT THE HISTORY, I

1359
00:33:48,695 --> 00:33:49,328
JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY MY SON--

1360
00:33:49,329 --> 00:33:49,928
WHEN I SAY RIGHT NOW, IT'S

1361
00:33:49,929 --> 00:33:50,229
NOT HISTORY.

1362
00:33:50,230 --> 00:33:51,130
I'M TELLING YOU WHAT WE'RE DOING

1363
00:33:51,131 --> 00:33:52,231
RIGHT NOW, OKAY, AND I'M TRYING

1364
00:33:52,232 --> 00:33:53,499
TO JUST LET YOU UNDERSTAND.

1365
00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:54,500
BUT IT'S LIKE YOU DON'T WANT TO

1366
00:33:54,501 --> 00:33:54,833
HEAR IT.

1367
00:33:54,834 --> 00:33:56,135
I JUST WANT TO HEAR ABOUT MY

1368
00:33:56,136 --> 00:33:56,435
SON.

1369
00:33:56,436 --> 00:33:57,202
I KNOW THE STATISTICS--

1370
00:33:57,203 --> 00:34:01,373
I'M GETTING TO THAT.

1371
00:34:01,374 --> 00:34:02,608
I KNOW ALL ABOUT.

1372
00:34:02,609 --> 00:34:03,108
I'M GETTING TO THAT.

1373
00:34:03,109 --> 00:34:04,176
I'M TELLING YOU WHY YOUR SON IS

1374
00:34:04,177 --> 00:34:04,877
BEING STOPPED AND WHY HE'S OUT

1375
00:34:04,878 --> 00:34:05,611
OF THE CAR BUT YOU'RE NOT

1376
00:34:05,612 --> 00:34:06,278
ALLOWING ME TO DO THAT.

1377
00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:08,580
SO IT'S A TRAFFIC INFRACTION

1378
00:34:08,581 --> 00:34:09,682
THAT HE WAS STOPPED FOR, OKAY?

1379
00:34:09,683 --> 00:34:11,150
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.

1380
00:34:11,151 --> 00:34:11,750
BUT OKAY.

1381
00:34:11,751 --> 00:34:12,851
YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT?

1382
00:34:12,852 --> 00:34:14,453
YOU WEREN'T HERE.

1383
00:34:14,454 --> 00:34:14,987
YOU DIDN'T SEE IT.

1384
00:34:14,988 --> 00:34:15,454
YOU WASN'T EITHER.

1385
00:34:15,455 --> 00:34:16,121
I KNOW.

1386
00:34:16,122 --> 00:34:17,322
YOU BELIEVE YOUR GUY AND I

1387
00:34:17,323 --> 00:34:19,291
BELIEVE MY SON, SO WE'RE EVEN.

1388
00:34:19,292 --> 00:34:20,225
HAS YOUR SON EVER MADE A

1389
00:34:20,226 --> 00:34:20,826
TRAFFIC INFRACTION, YOU THINK?

1390
00:34:20,827 --> 00:34:21,226
NO, HE HAS NOT.

1391
00:34:21,227 --> 00:34:21,794
HE'S NEVER MADE A TRAFFIC

1392
00:34:21,795 --> 00:34:22,094
INFRACTION.

1393
00:34:22,095 --> 00:34:23,162
HE HAS NOT.

1394
00:34:23,163 --> 00:34:24,530
I BET WE COULD WATCH HIM

1395
00:34:24,531 --> 00:34:25,164
DRIVE FOR FIVE MINUTES AND PICK

1396
00:34:25,165 --> 00:34:25,698
OUT A TRAFFIC INFRACTION.

1397
00:34:25,699 --> 00:34:31,270
I BET YOU COULD.

1398
00:34:31,271 --> 00:34:32,137
John: YEAH, SHE IS RIGHT.

1399
00:34:32,138 --> 00:34:32,905
SHE'S ALSO SHOWING SUPERHUMAN

1400
00:34:32,906 --> 00:34:34,373
RESTRAINT, IN THE FACE OF

1401
00:34:34,374 --> 00:34:36,208
SOMETHING UTTERLY ENRAGING.

1402
00:34:36,209 --> 00:34:36,809
BECAUSE "I BET WE COULD FIND A

1403
00:34:36,810 --> 00:34:37,443
BULLSHIT REASON TO PULL YOUR SON

1404
00:34:37,444 --> 00:34:39,244
OVER" JUST ISN'T THE FLEX THAT

1405
00:34:39,245 --> 00:34:41,647
COP SEEMS TO THINK IT IS.

1406
00:34:41,648 --> 00:34:42,414
IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF THE WHOLE

1407
00:34:42,415 --> 00:34:43,582
PROBLEM HERE.

1408
00:34:43,583 --> 00:34:45,617
IN FACT, THE COP WHO ORIGINALLY

1409
00:34:45,618 --> 00:34:46,218
DETAINED LEA ACTUALLY TOLD HIM

1410
00:34:46,219 --> 00:34:48,754
AT ONE POINT, "WE'RE GOING TO

1411
00:34:48,755 --> 00:34:50,456
STOP 30 MORE PEOPLE AFTER YOU,"

1412
00:34:50,457 --> 00:34:52,024
SHOWING THAT STOP WASN'T ABOUT

1413
00:34:52,025 --> 00:34:53,826
ONE BAD INTERACTION.

1414
00:34:53,827 --> 00:34:55,861
IT WAS A BAD SYSTEM, WORKING

1415
00:34:55,862 --> 00:34:57,529
EXACTLY AS DESIGNED.

1416
00:34:57,530 --> 00:35:00,799
SO WHAT DO WE DO?

1417
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,734
WELL, I WOULD ARGUE THE FIRST

1418
00:35:01,735 --> 00:35:02,368
THING WE SHOULD DO IS INCREDIBLY

1419
00:35:02,369 --> 00:35:02,601
SIMPLE.

1420
00:35:02,602 --> 00:35:03,202
AND THAT'S TO JUST STOP DOING

1421
00:35:03,203 --> 00:35:05,270
PRETEXTUAL STOPS.

1422
00:35:05,271 --> 00:35:10,743
AND ONE BIG STEP TOWARD THAT

1423
00:35:10,744 --> 00:35:13,312
WOULD BE ELIMINATING

1424
00:35:13,313 --> 00:35:14,446
NON-SAFETY RELATED STOPS.

1425
00:35:14,447 --> 00:35:15,080
AND I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE SAYING

1426
00:35:15,081 --> 00:35:15,447
THIS.

1427
00:35:15,448 --> 00:35:16,482
IN CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY,

1428
00:35:16,483 --> 00:35:17,082
ACTIVISTS HAVE PUSHED FOR THIS

1429
00:35:17,083 --> 00:35:18,617
CHANGE.

1430
00:35:18,618 --> 00:35:19,418
IN ANN ARBOR, MICHIGAN, THIS

1431
00:35:19,419 --> 00:35:20,486
CITY COUNCILWOMAN PUSHED TO

1432
00:35:20,487 --> 00:35:21,320
REDUCE THE USE OF PRETEXTUAL

1433
00:35:21,321 --> 00:35:22,054
STOPS-- IN PART OUT OF FEAR FOR

1434
00:35:22,055 --> 00:35:22,821
HER SONS-- AND LAST YEAR, THAT

1435
00:35:22,822 --> 00:35:25,324
LAW ACTUALLY PASSED.

1436
00:35:25,325 --> 00:35:28,427
WE ARE TRYING TO SET AN

1437
00:35:28,428 --> 00:35:29,928
EXAMPLE ABOUT WHAT POLICING

1438
00:35:29,929 --> 00:35:30,896
COULD LOOK LIKE.

1439
00:35:30,897 --> 00:35:33,666
A CRACKED WINDSHIELD, TINTED

1440
00:35:33,667 --> 00:35:34,266
WINDOWS, LOUD EXHAUST, BROKEN

1441
00:35:34,267 --> 00:35:36,402
TAILLIGHT, OR EXPIRED

1442
00:35:36,403 --> 00:35:38,337
REGISTRATION OR PLATES AND OTHER

1443
00:35:38,338 --> 00:35:40,205
NON-SAFETY-RELATED ISSUES WOULD

1444
00:35:40,206 --> 00:35:40,839
BECOME NO LONGER BE GROUNDS FOR

1445
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:41,373
A STOP.

1446
00:35:41,374 --> 00:35:42,474
STOPS INVOLVING SPEEDING,

1447
00:35:42,475 --> 00:35:44,076
RECKLESS DRIVING, AND OTHER

1448
00:35:44,077 --> 00:35:44,943
SERIOUS VIOLATIONS WOULD REMAIN

1449
00:35:44,944 --> 00:35:46,812
PRIORITY.

1450
00:35:46,813 --> 00:35:52,618
THIS FREES UP POLICE TO WORK

1451
00:35:52,619 --> 00:35:53,452
ON THOSE TYPES OF PRIMARY

1452
00:35:53,453 --> 00:35:53,719
OFFENSES.

1453
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:54,553
John: EXACTLY.

1454
00:35:54,554 --> 00:35:56,555
THE LAW GIVES POLICE MORE TIME

1455
00:35:56,556 --> 00:35:57,723
TO INVESTIGATE ACTUAL DANGEROUS

1456
00:35:57,724 --> 00:35:59,658
DRIVING, AS WELL AS OTHER

1457
00:35:59,659 --> 00:36:00,292
MICHIGAN-RELATED CRIMES, WHICH I

1458
00:36:00,293 --> 00:36:01,360
HAVE TO ASSUME ARE, LIKE...

1459
00:36:01,361 --> 00:36:03,395
FISH THEFT?

1460
00:36:03,396 --> 00:36:04,630
OR MAYBE SECRETLY SHITTING IN A

1461
00:36:04,631 --> 00:36:05,097
LAKE?

1462
00:36:05,098 --> 00:36:06,665
I'M NOT SURE WHAT CRIMINALS DO

1463
00:36:06,666 --> 00:36:07,299
IN MICHIGAN, BUT COPS COULD HAVE

1464
00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:09,134
MORE TIME TO STOP WHATEVER IT IS

1465
00:36:09,135 --> 00:36:11,904
THAT'S HAPPENING THERE.

1466
00:36:11,905 --> 00:36:12,905
AND PROMISING CHANGES HAVE BEEN

1467
00:36:12,906 --> 00:36:17,576
IMPLEMENTED ELSEWHERE, TOO.

1468
00:36:17,577 --> 00:36:18,844
A FEW YEARS AGO,

1469
00:36:18,845 --> 00:36:19,912
PHILADELPHIA WAS ACTUALLY THE

1470
00:36:19,913 --> 00:36:20,879
FIRST MAJOR CITY TO BAN POLICE

1471
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:21,580
FROM MAKING STOPS FOR CERTAIN

1472
00:36:21,581 --> 00:36:22,581
LOW-LEVEL TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS.

1473
00:36:22,582 --> 00:36:23,215
AND AFTER JUST EIGHT MONTHS WITH

1474
00:36:23,216 --> 00:36:24,350
THE LAW IN PLACE, STOPS

1475
00:36:24,351 --> 00:36:25,451
ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE VIOLATIONS

1476
00:36:25,452 --> 00:36:28,053
DROPPED BY MORE THAN HALF,

1477
00:36:28,054 --> 00:36:29,188
MEANING NEARLY 12,000 FEWER

1478
00:36:29,189 --> 00:36:30,289
BLACK DRIVERS WERE STOPPED.

1479
00:36:30,290 --> 00:36:31,890
AND WHILE THAT'S GREAT, IT

1480
00:36:31,891 --> 00:36:34,593
SHOULD OBVIOUSLY BE ONLY THE

1481
00:36:34,594 --> 00:36:35,160
BEGINNING HERE.

1482
00:36:35,161 --> 00:36:36,462
WE SHOULD ALSO DECRIMINALIZE

1483
00:36:36,463 --> 00:36:37,763
MINOR TRAFFIC OFFENSES AND STOP

1484
00:36:37,764 --> 00:36:39,064
LOCKING PEOPLE UP TO ENFORCE

1485
00:36:39,065 --> 00:36:42,801
FINES AND FEES.

1486
00:36:42,802 --> 00:36:43,402
EXPERTS ALSO TOLD US ONE MAJOR

1487
00:36:43,403 --> 00:36:45,504
STEP WOULD BE TO REQUIRE CITIES

1488
00:36:45,505 --> 00:36:48,407
KEEP DATA ON ALL THEIR TRAFFIC

1489
00:36:48,408 --> 00:36:50,409
STOPS, INCLUDING THE RACE OF WHO

1490
00:36:50,410 --> 00:36:52,745
THEY'RE STOPPING, AND WHAT

1491
00:36:52,746 --> 00:36:54,046
ACTIONS THEY'RE TAKING, TO MAKE

1492
00:36:54,047 --> 00:36:54,613
IT EASIER TO SEE AND ADDRESS

1493
00:36:54,614 --> 00:36:55,914
PATTERNS THAT EMERGE.

1494
00:36:55,915 --> 00:37:01,587
AND WE SHOULD DO THAT, BECAUSE

1495
00:37:01,588 --> 00:37:02,654
IT IS FRANKLY FUCKING INCREDIBLE

1496
00:37:02,655 --> 00:37:03,288
THAT IT'S NOT ALREADY HAPPENING.

1497
00:37:03,289 --> 00:37:04,123
AND LOOK, AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING

1498
00:37:04,124 --> 00:37:05,691
YOU DON'T STOP PEOPLE WHO ARE

1499
00:37:05,692 --> 00:37:09,328
CLEARLY DRIVING DANGEROUSLY.

1500
00:37:09,329 --> 00:37:10,462
YOU CAN, AND ABSOLUTELY SHOULD,

1501
00:37:10,463 --> 00:37:10,696
DO THAT!

1502
00:37:10,697 --> 00:37:11,597
BUT THAT'S CLEARLY NOT THE ONLY

1503
00:37:11,598 --> 00:37:12,331
WAY TRAFFIC STOPS ARE BEING USED

1504
00:37:12,332 --> 00:37:12,865
RIGHT NOW.

1505
00:37:12,866 --> 00:37:14,333
AND DOING FEWER OF THEM FOR

1506
00:37:14,334 --> 00:37:15,901
BULLSHIT REASONS SHOULD BE AN

1507
00:37:15,902 --> 00:37:17,770
EASY SELL.

1508
00:37:17,771 --> 00:37:19,338
IF THEY POSE A SAFETY CONCERN

1509
00:37:19,339 --> 00:37:20,973
FOR POLICE OFFICERS, LET'S

1510
00:37:20,974 --> 00:37:21,707
REDUCE THE NUMBER THEY HAVE TO

1511
00:37:21,708 --> 00:37:22,541
DO.

1512
00:37:22,542 --> 00:37:23,509
AND YOU KNOW WHAT?

1513
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:24,276
IF THAT JUST SO HAPPENS TO

1514
00:37:24,277 --> 00:37:26,345
REDUCE THE NUMBER OF COPS WE

1515
00:37:26,346 --> 00:37:26,745
NEED?

1516
00:37:26,746 --> 00:37:28,247
WHAT A HAPPY ACCIDENT THAT WOULD

1517
00:37:28,248 --> 00:37:32,551
BE!

1518
00:37:32,552 --> 00:37:32,751
♪ ♪

1519
00:37:32,752 --> 00:37:33,585
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

1520
00:37:33,586 --> 00:37:34,586
AN ACCIDENT?

1521
00:37:34,587 --> 00:37:36,555
AN ACCIDENT!

1522
00:37:36,556 --> 00:37:38,724
WHAT A HAPPY ACCIDENT!

1523
00:37:38,725 --> 00:37:40,726
John: YES!

1524
00:37:40,727 --> 00:37:41,260
THERE ARE...

1525
00:37:41,261 --> 00:37:43,662
SO MANY OF YOU!

1526
00:37:43,663 --> 00:37:44,897
THE POINT IS, WE HAVE TO STOP

1527
00:37:44,898 --> 00:37:45,831
THE ABUSIVE PRACTICES ASSOCIATED

1528
00:37:45,832 --> 00:37:46,632
WITH TRAFFIC STOPS.

1529
00:37:46,633 --> 00:37:48,534
IT'S SO OBVIOUS, EVEN A CHILD

1530
00:37:48,535 --> 00:37:49,401
CAN SEE IT.

1531
00:37:49,402 --> 00:37:53,205
A CHILD?

1532
00:37:53,206 --> 00:37:58,944
A CHILD!

1533
00:37:58,945 --> 00:37:59,878
John: YES, WELL SAID.

1534
00:37:59,879 --> 00:38:01,146
AND IF WE CAN DO THIS,

1535
00:38:01,147 --> 00:38:02,047
HOPEFULLY, SOMEDAY IN THE NEAR

1536
00:38:02,048 --> 00:38:02,748
FUTURE, FEAR OF TRAFFIC STOPS

1537
00:38:02,749 --> 00:38:03,349
WILL BE NOTHING BUT A DISTANT,

1538
00:38:03,350 --> 00:38:03,816
HAUNTING--

1539
00:38:03,817 --> 00:38:10,189
MEMORY!

1540
00:38:10,190 --> 00:38:12,124
♪ MEMORY, ALL ALONE IN THE

1541
00:38:12,125 --> 00:38:13,025
MOONLIGHT ♪

1542
00:38:13,026 --> 00:38:14,126
John: EXACTLY!

1543
00:38:14,127 --> 00:38:15,461
THAT'S OUR SHOW, THANKS SO MUCH

1544
00:38:15,462 --> 00:38:16,462
FOR WATCHING, GOOD NIGHT!

1545
00:38:16,463 --> 00:38:16,962
DOWN!

1546
00:38:16,963 --> 00:38:19,999
YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED UP HERE!

1547
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,634
GET OFF MY DESK!

1548
00:38:22,635 --> 00:38:22,901
GET DOWN!

1549
00:38:22,902 --> 00:38:25,504
BAD CATS!

1550
00:38:25,505 --> 00:38:28,040
HAVE A TOY.

1551
00:38:28,041 --> 00:38:28,507
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

1552
00:38:28,508 --> 00:38:30,009
♪ ♪

1553
00:38:30,010 --> 00:38:32,311
DO YOU LIKE IT WHEN IT GOES OVER

1554
00:38:32,312 --> 00:38:33,145
THERE?

1555
00:38:33,146 --> 00:38:35,447
DO YOU LIKE IT WHEN IT GOES OVER

1556
00:38:35,448 --> 00:38:35,647
HERE?

1557
00:38:35,648 --> 00:38:36,515
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

1558
00:38:36,516 --> 00:38:36,715
♪ ♪

1559
00:38:36,716 --> 00:38:37,617
GET IT, CAT.