1 00:00:08,211 --> 00:00:15,211 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:26,630 --> 00:00:31,499 [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] 3 00:00:31,499 --> 00:00:33,067 John: WELCOME, WELCOME, 4 00:00:33,067 --> 00:00:35,303 WELCOME TO "LAST WEEK TONIGHT!" 5 00:00:35,303 --> 00:00:36,037 I'M JOHN OLIVER, THANKS FOR 6 00:00:36,037 --> 00:00:38,272 JOINING US. 7 00:00:38,272 --> 00:00:42,310 IT'S BEEN A BUSY WEEK, FROM 8 00:00:42,310 --> 00:00:45,880 THE U.S. VETOING A CEASE-FIRE IN 9 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:46,814 GAZA YET AGAIN, TO THE 10 00:00:46,814 --> 00:00:48,116 REVELATION THAT JOE BIDEN'S DOG 11 00:00:48,116 --> 00:00:50,118 BIT SECRET SERVICE AGENTS AT 12 00:00:50,118 --> 00:00:50,653 LEAST 24 DIFFERENT TIMES. 13 00:00:50,653 --> 00:00:51,619 BUT WE'RE GOING TO START IN WEST 14 00:00:51,619 --> 00:00:52,920 VIRGINIA, WHICH HAS SPENT THE 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:53,521 PAST SEVERAL WEEKS DEBATING A 16 00:00:53,521 --> 00:00:54,023 BILL TO IMPOSE CRIMINAL 17 00:00:54,023 --> 00:00:54,655 PENALTIES FOR EXPOSING CHILDREN 18 00:00:54,655 --> 00:00:55,389 TO "OBSCENE" LITERATURE IN 19 00:00:55,389 --> 00:00:58,025 SCHOOLS AND LIBRARIES. 20 00:00:58,025 --> 00:00:58,561 THE DEBATE'S FEATURED SOME 21 00:00:58,561 --> 00:01:00,228 SPECTACULAR TESTIMONY FROM 22 00:01:00,228 --> 00:01:01,996 CONCERNED CITIZENS, READING OUT 23 00:01:01,996 --> 00:01:02,532 MATERIAL THEY OBJECTED TO. 24 00:01:02,532 --> 00:01:04,599 ARE YOU GONNA EAT HER PUSSY? 25 00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:05,199 YEAH, EARL, I'M GONNA EAT HER 26 00:01:05,199 --> 00:01:08,069 PUSSY. 27 00:01:08,069 --> 00:01:08,936 HEY, YEAH. 28 00:01:08,936 --> 00:01:10,004 DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW TO EAT 29 00:01:10,004 --> 00:01:10,705 PUSSY? 30 00:01:10,705 --> 00:01:12,340 PAPA GAINES NEVER SAT YOU DOWN, 31 00:01:12,340 --> 00:01:16,043 SAID "SON, ONE DAY, YOU'RE GOING 32 00:01:16,043 --> 00:01:17,545 TO HAVE TO EAT THE PUSSY?" 33 00:01:17,545 --> 00:01:21,048 NO. 34 00:01:21,048 --> 00:01:21,716 BUT HE DID TEACH ME HOW TO EAT A 35 00:01:21,716 --> 00:01:28,156 BUTTHOLE. 36 00:01:28,156 --> 00:01:29,056 John: LOOK, I ADMIT, I DON'T 37 00:01:29,056 --> 00:01:30,491 REMEMBER THAT SCENE FROM "THE 38 00:01:30,491 --> 00:01:32,393 GIVING TREE." 39 00:01:32,393 --> 00:01:32,994 BUT IT'S BEEN A WHILE, AND IN 40 00:01:32,994 --> 00:01:34,929 RETROSPECT, IT DOES MAKE SENSE 41 00:01:34,929 --> 00:01:36,531 FOR THE TREE TO SIT THE BOY DOWN 42 00:01:36,531 --> 00:01:38,599 AND EXPLAIN HOW TO ROCK THE BOX. 43 00:01:38,599 --> 00:01:39,801 IT'S AN IMPORTANT LESSON. 44 00:01:39,801 --> 00:01:41,102 BUT WHILE THAT HEARING WAS 45 00:01:41,102 --> 00:01:41,836 RIDICULOUS, THE LAW ITSELF IS 46 00:01:41,836 --> 00:01:43,538 SERIOUS. 47 00:01:43,538 --> 00:01:44,172 VIOLATING IT COULD CARRY A 48 00:01:44,172 --> 00:01:45,873 FELONY CHARGE, WITH A PENALTY OF 49 00:01:45,873 --> 00:01:46,507 $25,000 AND A SENTENCE OF UP TO 50 00:01:46,507 --> 00:01:49,043 5-YEARS. 51 00:01:49,043 --> 00:01:50,278 MANY HAVE CALLED IT A "BOOK BAN" 52 00:01:50,278 --> 00:01:55,416 ALTHOUGH THE BILL'S BACKERS 53 00:01:55,416 --> 00:01:56,717 PUSHED BACK ON THAT, WITH ONE OF 54 00:01:56,717 --> 00:01:57,452 THE SPEAKERS WHO SUPPORTED IT 55 00:01:57,452 --> 00:01:58,286 SAYING, "WE ARE NOT BANNING OR 56 00:01:58,286 --> 00:01:58,855 BURNING, WE ARE PROTECTING." 57 00:01:58,855 --> 00:02:00,721 ALTHOUGH I'LL TELL YOU WHAT 58 00:02:00,721 --> 00:02:01,191 YOU'RE DEFINITELY NOT 59 00:02:01,191 --> 00:02:01,823 PROTECTING, AND THAT'S MY EARS 60 00:02:01,823 --> 00:02:02,790 FROM HEARING "EAT THE PUSSY" 61 00:02:02,790 --> 00:02:03,658 FOUR TIMES OUT OF THIS WOMAN'S 62 00:02:03,658 --> 00:02:05,126 MOUTH. 63 00:02:05,126 --> 00:02:06,594 BUT WHILE WEST VIRGINIA MAY NOT 64 00:02:06,594 --> 00:02:07,163 BE BURNING BOOKS, OBSCENITY 65 00:02:07,163 --> 00:02:08,729 BILLS AND SIMILAR MORAL PANICS 66 00:02:08,729 --> 00:02:09,697 ARE SPREADING AROUND THE 67 00:02:09,697 --> 00:02:10,431 COUNTRY, IN PLACES LIKE 68 00:02:10,431 --> 00:02:11,432 MISSOURI, WHERE A CANDIDATE FOR 69 00:02:11,432 --> 00:02:14,669 OFFICE RELEASED THIS VIDEO. 70 00:02:14,669 --> 00:02:16,771 THIS IS WHAT I WILL DO TO THE 71 00:02:16,771 --> 00:02:17,371 GROOMING BOOKS WHEN I BECOME 72 00:02:17,371 --> 00:02:22,310 SECRETARY OF STATE. 73 00:02:22,310 --> 00:02:25,413 ♪ ♪ 74 00:02:25,413 --> 00:02:26,280 THESE BOOKS COME FROM A MISSOURI 75 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,148 PUBLIC LIBRARY. 76 00:02:27,148 --> 00:02:28,816 WHEN I'M IN OFFICE, THEY WILL 77 00:02:28,816 --> 00:02:29,018 BURN. 78 00:02:29,018 --> 00:02:29,519 John: OKAY. 79 00:02:29,519 --> 00:02:30,518 THERE'S A LOT TO NOT LIKE THERE, 80 00:02:30,518 --> 00:02:32,053 INCLUDING THAT HER FLAMETHROWER 81 00:02:32,053 --> 00:02:32,787 IS APPARENTLY FUELED BY LIBERAL 82 00:02:32,787 --> 00:02:33,754 TEARS. 83 00:02:33,754 --> 00:02:35,089 WHICH... 84 00:02:35,089 --> 00:02:35,823 WHAT? 85 00:02:35,823 --> 00:02:36,958 I'M NOT SAYING THE GOP'S 86 00:02:36,958 --> 00:02:38,793 MESSAGING IS IN DISARRAY, BUT... 87 00:02:38,793 --> 00:02:40,394 ARE LIBERAL TEARS THE THING YOU 88 00:02:40,394 --> 00:02:41,195 LOVE TO DRINK BECAUSE YOUR 89 00:02:41,195 --> 00:02:42,063 ENEMIES' SADNESS TASTES SO 90 00:02:42,063 --> 00:02:45,066 SWEET? 91 00:02:45,066 --> 00:02:46,234 OR, IS IT THE DEADLY FUEL FOR 92 00:02:46,234 --> 00:02:46,803 YOUR VERY COOL SHARK-THEMED 93 00:02:46,803 --> 00:02:53,674 FLAMETHROWER? 94 00:02:53,674 --> 00:02:54,709 YOU'VE GOT TO PICK A FUCKING 95 00:02:54,709 --> 00:02:57,044 LANE. 96 00:02:57,044 --> 00:02:58,279 BUT FOR NOW, LET'S TURN TO 97 00:02:58,279 --> 00:02:58,913 ALABAMA, WHICH HAS BEEN REELING 98 00:02:58,913 --> 00:02:59,547 AFTER A MAJOR DECISION FROM ITS 99 00:02:59,547 --> 00:03:00,915 HIGHEST COURT. 100 00:03:00,915 --> 00:03:02,083 THIS MORNING, A FIRST OF ITS 101 00:03:02,083 --> 00:03:02,652 KIND DECISION BY THE ALABAMA 102 00:03:02,652 --> 00:03:03,219 SUPREME COURT THAT COULD PUT 103 00:03:03,219 --> 00:03:03,985 FAMILIES' ACCESS TO FERTILITY 104 00:03:03,985 --> 00:03:04,585 TREATMENTS IN THE POST-ROE ERA 105 00:03:04,585 --> 00:03:05,686 AT RISK. 106 00:03:05,686 --> 00:03:06,521 THE COURT, DETERMINING FROZEN 107 00:03:06,521 --> 00:03:08,823 EMBRYOS QUALIFY AS PEOPLE UNDER 108 00:03:08,823 --> 00:03:10,057 ITS STATE LAW, RULING UNBORN 109 00:03:10,057 --> 00:03:12,593 CHILDREN ARE CHILDREN WITHOUT 110 00:03:12,593 --> 00:03:13,227 EXCEPTION BASED ON DEVELOPMENTAL 111 00:03:13,227 --> 00:03:14,796 STAGE. 112 00:03:14,796 --> 00:03:16,130 John: YEAH. 113 00:03:16,130 --> 00:03:17,865 THEY RULED FROZEN EMBRYOS ARE 114 00:03:17,865 --> 00:03:18,434 THE SAME AS PEOPLE, WHICH IS 115 00:03:18,434 --> 00:03:19,367 WRONG FOR A BUNCH OF REASONS-- 116 00:03:19,367 --> 00:03:21,169 MAINLY, IF YOU FREEZE AN EMBRYO, 117 00:03:21,169 --> 00:03:22,003 IT'S FINE. 118 00:03:22,003 --> 00:03:23,304 IF YOU FREEZE A PERSON, YOU HAVE 119 00:03:23,304 --> 00:03:27,909 SOME EXPLAINING TO DO. 120 00:03:27,909 --> 00:03:30,144 THAT RULING COULD HAVE MASSIVE 121 00:03:30,144 --> 00:03:30,713 IMPLICATIONS FOR ANYONE WHO 122 00:03:30,713 --> 00:03:31,312 NEEDS IVF TO CONCEIVE-- AND 123 00:03:31,312 --> 00:03:33,548 THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE. 124 00:03:33,548 --> 00:03:34,348 AROUND 2% OF BABIES BORN IN THE 125 00:03:34,348 --> 00:03:36,818 US ARE FROM IVF. 126 00:03:36,818 --> 00:03:38,953 ALREADY, MULTIPLE FERTILITY 127 00:03:38,953 --> 00:03:40,655 CLINICS HAVE PAUSED TREATMENT IN 128 00:03:40,655 --> 00:03:41,823 THE WAKE OF THE DECISION-- 129 00:03:41,823 --> 00:03:42,392 WHICH, AS ANYONE WHO'S EVER 130 00:03:42,392 --> 00:03:43,724 UNDERGONE IVF WILL TELL YOU, 131 00:03:43,724 --> 00:03:45,359 ISN'T SOMETHING YOU CAN JUST DO. 132 00:03:45,359 --> 00:03:47,061 IVF CYCLES TAKE WEEKS OF CAREFUL 133 00:03:47,061 --> 00:03:48,563 MONITORING AND EXPENSIVE 134 00:03:48,563 --> 00:03:50,031 TREATMENTS. 135 00:03:50,031 --> 00:03:51,466 YOU CAN'T JUS HIT PAUSE AND 136 00:03:51,466 --> 00:03:53,134 WAIT OUT A COURT CASE. 137 00:03:53,134 --> 00:03:54,569 THIS IS A SEISMIC DECISION, AND 138 00:03:54,569 --> 00:03:55,336 THE REASON THE COURT WAS HEARING 139 00:03:55,336 --> 00:03:56,170 THIS CASE TO BEGIN WITH WAS 140 00:03:56,170 --> 00:03:58,806 PRETTY WILD. 141 00:03:58,806 --> 00:04:01,642 THE CASE IN QUESTION INVOLVED 142 00:04:01,642 --> 00:04:02,276 A PATIENT WHO MANAGED TO ACCESS 143 00:04:02,276 --> 00:04:04,011 THE FREEZER STORING FROZEN 144 00:04:04,011 --> 00:04:05,279 EMBRYOS AT AN ALABAMA FERTILITY 145 00:04:05,279 --> 00:04:06,380 CLINIC. 146 00:04:06,380 --> 00:04:07,648 THE PATIENT PICKED UP MULTIPLE 147 00:04:07,648 --> 00:04:08,683 EMBRYOS AND MISTAKENLY DROPPED 148 00:04:08,683 --> 00:04:11,419 AND DESTROYED THEM. 149 00:04:11,419 --> 00:04:13,588 John: YEAH-- THE COURT RULED 150 00:04:13,588 --> 00:04:14,188 THAT THE CLINIC COULD BE SUED 151 00:04:14,188 --> 00:04:15,556 FOR WRONGFUL DEATH. 152 00:04:15,556 --> 00:04:16,757 AND WHILE THAT ACCIDENT'S 153 00:04:16,757 --> 00:04:18,593 GENUINELY HORRIBLE, SOMEONE 154 00:04:18,593 --> 00:04:21,896 WANDERING INTO A LAB AND 155 00:04:21,896 --> 00:04:23,998 DROPPING FROZEN EMBRYOS JUST 156 00:04:23,998 --> 00:04:26,100 ISN'T MURDER. 157 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:26,734 IF ANYTHING, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE 158 00:04:26,734 --> 00:04:30,838 SCRIPT FOR A PRETTY TASTELESS 159 00:04:30,838 --> 00:04:33,341 "MR. BEAN" SEQUEL. 160 00:04:33,341 --> 00:04:34,442 AND LOOK: THE REASON CLINICS ARE 161 00:04:34,442 --> 00:04:35,243 PAUSING TREATMENT RIGHT NOW IS 162 00:04:35,243 --> 00:04:36,844 THAT NOBODY QUITE KNOWS WHAT IT 163 00:04:36,844 --> 00:04:37,612 COULD MEAN FOR AN EMBRYO TO BE 164 00:04:37,612 --> 00:04:38,246 LEGALLY EQUIVALENT TO A PERSON, 165 00:04:38,246 --> 00:04:40,148 GOING FORWARD. 166 00:04:40,148 --> 00:04:40,717 WHAT HAPPENS IF AN EMBRYO IS 167 00:04:40,717 --> 00:04:41,415 STORED IMPROPERLY? 168 00:04:41,415 --> 00:04:42,784 WHAT IF THEY'RE-- AS INEVITABLY 169 00:04:42,784 --> 00:04:43,518 HAPPENS-- LEFT OVER OR 170 00:04:43,518 --> 00:04:44,619 DESTROYED IN THE IMPLANTATION 171 00:04:44,619 --> 00:04:45,653 PROCESS? 172 00:04:45,653 --> 00:04:46,988 WHAT ABOUT GENETIC TESTING, 173 00:04:46,988 --> 00:04:47,588 WHICH CAN REDUCE THE RISK OF 174 00:04:47,588 --> 00:04:49,190 MISCARRIAGE, BUT DOES CARRY A 175 00:04:49,190 --> 00:04:50,725 SLIGHT RISK OF DAMAGING EMBRYOS? 176 00:04:50,725 --> 00:04:51,325 WOULD THAT NOW BE CONSIDERED A 177 00:04:51,325 --> 00:04:53,895 WRONGFUL DEATH? 178 00:04:53,895 --> 00:04:54,929 IT'S CHAOS, AND EXPERTS SAY 179 00:04:54,929 --> 00:04:57,331 COURTS IN OTHER STATES COULD TRY 180 00:04:57,331 --> 00:04:59,433 AND ISSUE SIMILAR RULINGS. 181 00:04:59,433 --> 00:05:00,968 BUT NONE OF THIS SHOULD BE 182 00:05:00,968 --> 00:05:01,271 SURPRISING. 183 00:05:01,271 --> 00:05:02,370 THIS RULING IS A NATURAL 184 00:05:02,370 --> 00:05:04,906 OUTGROWTH OF THE CONCEPT OF 185 00:05:04,906 --> 00:05:05,540 "FETAL PERSONHOOD," LONG PUSHED 186 00:05:05,540 --> 00:05:07,341 BY HARDLINE ANTI-ABORTION 187 00:05:07,341 --> 00:05:10,011 GROUPS, WHICH REPUBLICANS HAVE 188 00:05:10,011 --> 00:05:11,579 SPENT DECADES COURTING. 189 00:05:11,579 --> 00:05:12,513 AND SOME POLITICIANS SUDDENLY 190 00:05:12,513 --> 00:05:13,815 SEEM ALARMED TO HAVE TO DEAL 191 00:05:13,815 --> 00:05:14,350 WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF A 192 00:05:14,350 --> 00:05:16,717 MOVEMENT THEY EMPOWERED. 193 00:05:16,717 --> 00:05:17,485 NIKKI HALEY, FOR INSTANCE, SPENT 194 00:05:17,485 --> 00:05:18,719 THE WEEK TRYING TO RECONCILE HER 195 00:05:18,719 --> 00:05:19,921 POSITION THAT "WHEN YOU'RE 196 00:05:19,921 --> 00:05:21,556 TALKING ABOUT AN EMBRYO, YOU'RE 197 00:05:21,556 --> 00:05:23,891 TALKING ABOUT A LIFE," WITH WHAT 198 00:05:23,891 --> 00:05:25,526 THAT ACTUALLY MEANS IN LEGAL 199 00:05:25,526 --> 00:05:27,595 TERMS. 200 00:05:27,595 --> 00:05:28,830 MEANWHILE, WATCH AS ALABAMA 201 00:05:28,830 --> 00:05:34,102 SENATOR TOMMY TUBERVILLE SEEMED 202 00:05:34,102 --> 00:05:35,536 TO REALIZE THE PROBLEMS WITH HIS 203 00:05:35,536 --> 00:05:37,572 POSITION IN REAL TIME. 204 00:05:37,572 --> 00:05:38,206 DO YOU HAVE A REACTION TO THE 205 00:05:38,206 --> 00:05:38,840 ALABAMA SUPREME COURT RULING ON 206 00:05:38,840 --> 00:05:39,375 THE FACT THAT EMBRYOS ARE 207 00:05:39,375 --> 00:05:40,441 CHILDREN? 208 00:05:40,441 --> 00:05:40,977 YEAH, I WAS ALL FOR IT. 209 00:05:40,977 --> 00:05:42,510 WE NEED TO HAVE MORE KIDS. 210 00:05:42,510 --> 00:05:44,545 WE NEED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY 211 00:05:44,545 --> 00:05:44,848 TO DO THAT. 212 00:05:44,848 --> 00:05:46,047 I THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS THE 213 00:05:46,047 --> 00:05:46,449 RIGHT THING TO DO. 214 00:05:46,449 --> 00:05:47,081 BUT IVF IS USED TO HAVE MORE 215 00:05:47,081 --> 00:05:48,015 CHILDREN, AND RIGHT NOW IVF 216 00:05:48,015 --> 00:05:49,617 SERVICES ARE PAUSED AT SOME OF 217 00:05:49,617 --> 00:05:50,551 THE CLINICS IN ALABAMA. 218 00:05:50,551 --> 00:05:51,619 AREN'T YOU CONCERNED THAT THIS 219 00:05:51,619 --> 00:05:52,720 COULD IMPACT PEOPLE WHO ARE 220 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,422 TRYING TO HAVE KIDS? 221 00:05:54,422 --> 00:05:55,990 WELL, THAT'S FOR-- THAT'S 222 00:05:55,990 --> 00:05:57,058 FOR ANOTHER CONVERSATION. 223 00:05:57,058 --> 00:05:58,593 SENATOR, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO 224 00:05:58,593 --> 00:05:59,193 WOMEN RIGHT NOW IN ALABAMA WHO 225 00:05:59,193 --> 00:06:02,263 CAN NO LONGER ACCESS IVF AND 226 00:06:02,263 --> 00:06:02,832 WILL NOT AS A RESULT OF THIS 227 00:06:02,832 --> 00:06:06,601 RULING? 228 00:06:06,601 --> 00:06:08,169 WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THEM? 229 00:06:08,169 --> 00:06:10,204 WELL, THAT'S A HARD ONE. 230 00:06:10,204 --> 00:06:11,005 IT REALLY IS. 231 00:06:11,005 --> 00:06:12,940 IT'S REALLY HARD. 232 00:06:12,940 --> 00:06:13,574 'CAUSE AGAIN, YOU WANT PEOPLE TO 233 00:06:13,574 --> 00:06:15,476 HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. 234 00:06:15,476 --> 00:06:17,645 AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TELLING 235 00:06:17,645 --> 00:06:18,148 HER, WE NEED MORE KIDS. 236 00:06:18,148 --> 00:06:18,681 John: WELL, GUESS WHAT, 237 00:06:18,681 --> 00:06:19,280 TOMMY? 238 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:20,782 I'VE GOT GREAT NEWS! 239 00:06:20,782 --> 00:06:23,117 SINCE YOUR POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY 240 00:06:23,117 --> 00:06:23,751 SEEMS TO BEGIN AND END WITH "WE 241 00:06:23,751 --> 00:06:24,320 NEED MORE KIDS," YOU'LL BE 242 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:25,653 THRILLED TO KNOW THAT THANKS TO 243 00:06:25,653 --> 00:06:26,721 A JUDGE IN ALABAMA, THERE'S NOW 244 00:06:26,721 --> 00:06:29,257 WHOLE FREEZERS FULL OF THEM! 245 00:06:29,257 --> 00:06:30,057 GO PLAY WITH ALL THOSE FROSTY 246 00:06:30,057 --> 00:06:31,292 KIDS, SENATOR! 247 00:06:31,292 --> 00:06:32,794 OR MAYBE, THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU 248 00:06:32,794 --> 00:06:35,263 HAD IN MIND WHEN YOU THINK OF 249 00:06:35,263 --> 00:06:35,863 CHILDREN, WHICH IS EXACTLY THE 250 00:06:35,863 --> 00:06:37,632 FUCKING POINT. 251 00:06:37,632 --> 00:06:38,266 REPUBLICANS ARE IN A TOUGH SPOT 252 00:06:38,266 --> 00:06:39,133 RIGHT NOW, TRYING TO HOLD ONTO 253 00:06:39,133 --> 00:06:41,402 HARDLINE ANTI-ABORTION FORCES, 254 00:06:41,402 --> 00:06:42,236 WHILE NOT ALIENATING THE 255 00:06:42,236 --> 00:06:44,372 MAJORITY OF AMERICANS. 256 00:06:44,372 --> 00:06:45,072 AND MAYBE, THE BEST EXAMPLE OF 257 00:06:45,072 --> 00:06:48,545 THAT RIGHT NOW HAS TO DO WITH 258 00:06:51,181 --> 00:06:53,114 AND MAY BECOME OF THE BEST 259 00:06:53,114 --> 00:06:54,749 EXAMPLE OF THIS IS DONALD TRUMP. 260 00:06:54,749 --> 00:06:55,383 HE ISSUED A STATEMENT THIS WEEK 261 00:06:55,383 --> 00:06:59,420 THAT HE STRONGLY SUPPORTS THE 262 00:06:59,420 --> 00:07:01,322 AVAILABILITY OF IVF FOR COUPLES 263 00:07:01,322 --> 00:07:01,923 WHO ARE TRYING TO HAVE A 264 00:07:01,923 --> 00:07:02,657 PRECIOUS BABY-- SOMETHING HE 265 00:07:02,657 --> 00:07:03,291 REFERRED TO AS "THE ULTIMATE JOY 266 00:07:03,291 --> 00:07:05,626 IN LIFE," ALL CAPS, EXCLAMATION 267 00:07:05,626 --> 00:07:05,829 MARK. 268 00:07:05,829 --> 00:07:06,727 AND IT'S INCREDIBLE HOW EVEN 269 00:07:06,727 --> 00:07:07,929 OBJECTIVELY WHOLESOME SENTENCES 270 00:07:07,929 --> 00:07:10,231 TAKE ON AN AIR OF CREEPINESS 271 00:07:10,231 --> 00:07:10,865 WHEN PASSED THROUGH THE CHAOTIC 272 00:07:10,865 --> 00:07:11,499 TRUMP PUNCTUATION FILTER. 273 00:07:11,499 --> 00:07:12,867 MEANWHILE, HE'S ALSO BEEN 274 00:07:12,867 --> 00:07:14,035 PRIVATELY FLOATING A FEDERAL BAN 275 00:07:14,035 --> 00:07:14,936 ON ABORTION AT THE 16-WEEK MARK, 276 00:07:14,936 --> 00:07:15,736 REPORTEDLY SAYING, "KNOW WHAT I 277 00:07:15,736 --> 00:07:21,175 LIKE ABOUT 16?" 278 00:07:21,175 --> 00:07:21,644 "IT'S EVEN. 279 00:07:21,644 --> 00:07:25,213 IT'S FOUR MONTHS." 280 00:07:25,213 --> 00:07:26,280 AND I WILL SAY-- STARTING ANY 281 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,181 SENTENCE WITH "YOU KNOW WHAT I 282 00:07:27,181 --> 00:07:28,749 LIKE ABOUT 16," SHOULD BE OFF 283 00:07:28,749 --> 00:07:29,550 LIMITS FOR ANYONE WHO HAS THIS 284 00:07:29,550 --> 00:07:30,418 MANY PHOTOS WITH JEFFREY 285 00:07:30,418 --> 00:07:31,719 EPSTEIN. 286 00:07:31,719 --> 00:07:34,255 BUT WHILE TRUMP MIGHT THINK 16 287 00:07:34,255 --> 00:07:34,856 WEEKS IS THE REASONABLE OPTION 288 00:07:34,856 --> 00:07:36,557 WHICH IT ISN'T-- 289 00:07:36,557 --> 00:07:37,992 ANTIABORTION FORCES ARE HOPING 290 00:07:37,992 --> 00:07:38,626 TO USE A SECOND TRUMP TERM TO GO 291 00:07:38,626 --> 00:07:39,062 MUCH, MUCH FURTHER. 292 00:07:39,062 --> 00:07:40,695 ONE TOOL THEY'RE APPARENTLY 293 00:07:40,695 --> 00:07:41,929 EAGER TO USE IS THE COMSTOCK 294 00:07:41,929 --> 00:07:43,431 ACT, AN 1873 LAW THAT 295 00:07:43,431 --> 00:07:44,665 CRIMINALIZES THE SHIPPING OF ANY 296 00:07:44,665 --> 00:07:45,933 MATERIALS USED IN AN ABORTION, 297 00:07:45,933 --> 00:07:47,635 INCLUDING ABORTION PILLS, WITH 298 00:07:47,635 --> 00:07:50,271 ONE OF TRUMP'S LAWYERS SAYING, 299 00:07:50,271 --> 00:07:51,272 "WE DON'T NEED A FEDERAL BAN 300 00:07:51,272 --> 00:07:52,039 WHEN WE HAVE COMSTOCK ON THE 301 00:07:52,039 --> 00:07:54,509 BOOKS." 302 00:07:54,509 --> 00:07:55,343 IT WAS ONE OF THE KEY PRETEXTS 303 00:07:55,343 --> 00:07:56,811 IN LAST YEAR'S MIFEPRISTONE 304 00:07:56,811 --> 00:07:57,879 RULING, AND LINDSEY GRAHAM 305 00:07:57,879 --> 00:07:59,413 ACTUALLY CITED COMSTOCK WHEN 306 00:07:59,413 --> 00:08:01,415 DEFENDING IT. 307 00:08:01,415 --> 00:08:02,850 THE IDEA OF MAILING THE 308 00:08:02,850 --> 00:08:04,218 DRUG-SENDING THE DRUG THROUGH 309 00:08:04,218 --> 00:08:06,554 THE MAIL RUNS INTO A STATUTE 310 00:08:06,554 --> 00:08:08,656 CALLED THE COMSTOCK ACT. 311 00:08:08,656 --> 00:08:10,992 IT'S A VERY OLD STATUTE ON 312 00:08:10,992 --> 00:08:11,261 THE BOOKS. 313 00:08:11,261 --> 00:08:11,893 DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE SUPREME 314 00:08:11,893 --> 00:08:14,162 COURT SHOULD USE THAT AS A WAY 315 00:08:14,162 --> 00:08:18,900 TO BAN THIS ABORTION PILL? 316 00:08:18,900 --> 00:08:19,500 WELL, I THINK IT'S A LAW ON 317 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:23,604 THE BOOKS. 318 00:08:23,604 --> 00:08:25,807 John: LOOK, I GUESS IT'S NOT 319 00:08:25,807 --> 00:08:26,407 THAT SURPRISING THAT GRAHAM'S 320 00:08:26,407 --> 00:08:27,041 ENDORSEMENT OF A LAW BOILS DOWN 321 00:08:27,041 --> 00:08:27,642 TO "IT'S ON THE BOOKS," GIVEN 322 00:08:27,642 --> 00:08:30,344 THAT "IT'S OLD AND IT'S THERE" 323 00:08:30,344 --> 00:08:30,978 BASICALLY SUMS UP LINDSEY GRAHAM 324 00:08:30,978 --> 00:08:32,680 AT THIS POINT. 325 00:08:32,680 --> 00:08:34,348 HE SEEMS DETERMINED TO STAY IN 326 00:08:34,348 --> 00:08:34,982 THE SENATE UNTIL HE CAN COMPLETE 327 00:08:35,785 --> 00:08:41,622 TRANSFORMATION INTO BEAKER. 328 00:08:41,622 --> 00:08:42,523 AND, HE'S GETTING CLOSE. 329 00:08:42,523 --> 00:08:43,858 HE'S ONLY A COUPLE OF STEPS 330 00:08:43,858 --> 00:08:45,359 AWAY. 331 00:08:45,359 --> 00:08:46,160 BUT HE'S RIGHT: THE COMSTOCK ACT 332 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,395 IS TECHNICALLY THERE, MEANING A 333 00:08:47,395 --> 00:08:48,029 TRUMP ADMINISTRATION-- OR THE 334 00:08:48,029 --> 00:08:50,231 JUDGES HE APPOINTS-- COULD TRY 335 00:08:50,231 --> 00:08:50,832 USING IT TO RESTRICT ABORTION 336 00:08:50,832 --> 00:08:51,833 WITHOUT GOING THROUGH CONGRESS. 337 00:08:51,833 --> 00:08:53,534 WHICH IS BOTH ALARMING, AND 338 00:08:53,534 --> 00:08:55,203 SOMETHING MANY PRO-LIFE FIGURES 339 00:08:55,203 --> 00:08:55,970 ARE ANXIOUS TO KEEP QUIET FOR 340 00:08:55,970 --> 00:08:57,672 NOW. 341 00:08:57,672 --> 00:08:58,473 THAT TRUMP LAWYER I MENTIONED 342 00:08:58,473 --> 00:08:59,540 EVEN SAID OF HIM, "I HOPE HE 343 00:08:59,540 --> 00:09:02,009 DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT THE EXISTENCE 344 00:09:02,009 --> 00:09:02,579 OF COMSTOCK, BECAUSE I JUST 345 00:09:02,579 --> 00:09:03,211 DON'T WANT HIM TO SHOOT OFF HIS 346 00:09:03,211 --> 00:09:05,446 MOUTH." 347 00:09:05,446 --> 00:09:06,015 "I THINK THE PRO-LIFE GROUPS 348 00:09:06,015 --> 00:09:07,515 SHOULD KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT AS 349 00:09:07,515 --> 00:09:08,051 MUCH AS POSSIBLE UNTIL THE 350 00:09:08,051 --> 00:09:11,285 ELECTION." 351 00:09:11,285 --> 00:09:13,521 BUT WHENEVER THEY DON'T WANT TO 352 00:09:13,521 --> 00:09:14,057 TALK ABOUT SOMETHING, IT'S 353 00:09:14,057 --> 00:09:14,591 PROBABLY WORTH YOU KNOWING 354 00:09:14,591 --> 00:09:16,691 ABOUT. 355 00:09:16,691 --> 00:09:17,658 SO, FOR THE RECORD, THE COMSTOCK 356 00:09:17,658 --> 00:09:18,860 ACT IS NAMED AFTER ANTHONY 357 00:09:18,860 --> 00:09:20,328 COMSTOCK, A 19TH CENTURY 358 00:09:20,328 --> 00:09:21,529 ANTI-SEX CRUSADER AND POSTAL 359 00:09:21,529 --> 00:09:23,698 INSPECTOR WHO WAS, AND I QUOTE, 360 00:09:23,698 --> 00:09:26,000 "A CHRONIC MASTURBATOR WHO 361 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:26,536 BELIEVED IT WAS PHYSICALLY 362 00:09:26,536 --> 00:09:28,035 HARMFUL, SO LAUNCHED A CRUSADE 363 00:09:28,035 --> 00:09:29,604 TO STAMP OUT THE TRANSMISSION 364 00:09:29,604 --> 00:09:30,505 AND TRANSPORTATION OF ALL 365 00:09:30,505 --> 00:09:33,407 OBSCENE MATERIAL." 366 00:09:33,407 --> 00:09:35,042 AND IMAGINE JERKING OFF SO MUCH 367 00:09:35,042 --> 00:09:38,179 YOU MAKE IT A MATTER OF NATIONAL 368 00:09:38,179 --> 00:09:38,448 SECURITY. 369 00:09:38,448 --> 00:09:39,914 THE COMSTOCK ACT FORBADE SENDING 370 00:09:39,914 --> 00:09:41,983 BY MAIL "EVERY OBSCENE, LEWD, 371 00:09:41,983 --> 00:09:44,318 LASCIVIOUS, INDECENT, FILTHY OR 372 00:09:44,318 --> 00:09:45,686 VILE ARTICLE, MATTER, THING, 373 00:09:45,686 --> 00:09:47,722 DEVICE, OR SUBSTANCE," AS WELL 374 00:09:47,722 --> 00:09:49,991 AS "EVERY ARTICLE OR THING 375 00:09:49,991 --> 00:09:50,625 DESIGNED, ADAPTED, OR INTENDED 376 00:09:50,625 --> 00:09:52,593 FOR PRODUCING ABORTION." 377 00:09:52,593 --> 00:09:54,262 THAT'S THE CLAUSE ABORTION 378 00:09:54,262 --> 00:09:56,864 OPPONENTS HAVE USED ON 379 00:09:56,864 --> 00:09:58,866 MIFEPRISTONE, AND THEY HOPE TO 380 00:09:58,866 --> 00:09:59,834 EXPAND IT TO COVER THE SHIPPING 381 00:09:59,834 --> 00:10:01,269 OF LITERALLY ANYTHING AN 382 00:10:01,269 --> 00:10:02,770 ABORTION REQUIRES. 383 00:10:02,770 --> 00:10:03,838 SO, THE COMSTOCK ACT IS A WILD 384 00:10:03,838 --> 00:10:06,174 LAW, PUSHED FOR BY A DEEPLY 385 00:10:06,174 --> 00:10:08,976 WEIRD, DANGEROUSLY HORNY MAN, 386 00:10:08,976 --> 00:10:09,777 THAT MAY SOON BE DETERMINING ALL 387 00:10:09,777 --> 00:10:12,013 OUR REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOMS. 388 00:10:12,013 --> 00:10:13,381 AND IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT 389 00:10:13,381 --> 00:10:14,615 COMSTOCK WAS ALSO A LEADER IN 390 00:10:14,615 --> 00:10:15,750 "THE NEW YORK SOCIETY FOR THE 391 00:10:15,750 --> 00:10:17,952 SUPPRESSION OF VICE," WHOSE SEAL 392 00:10:17,952 --> 00:10:18,586 FUN FACT-- DEPICTED SOMEONE 393 00:10:18,586 --> 00:10:21,289 BURNING BOOKS. 394 00:10:21,289 --> 00:10:22,323 WHICH, TO BE FAIR, CONSERVATIVES 395 00:10:22,323 --> 00:10:23,491 DON'T DO ANYMORE. 396 00:10:23,491 --> 00:10:24,091 AS WE ALL KNOW, THEY USE FLAME 397 00:10:24,091 --> 00:10:27,228 THROWERS NOW. 398 00:10:27,228 --> 00:10:28,529 AND THAT'S THE THING THAT TIES 399 00:10:28,529 --> 00:10:30,665 EVERYTHING I'VE TALKED ABOUT 400 00:10:30,665 --> 00:10:32,366 HERE TOGETHER-- THERE ARE 401 00:10:32,366 --> 00:10:32,836 POLITICIANS CURRENTLY 402 00:10:32,836 --> 00:10:34,235 DESPERATELY TRYING TO DISTANCE 403 00:10:34,235 --> 00:10:35,369 THEMSELVES FROM EXTREME POLICIES 404 00:10:35,369 --> 00:10:39,207 THEY'VE ENABLED. 405 00:10:39,207 --> 00:10:40,775 YOU CAN SAY "WE'RE NOT TRYING TO 406 00:10:40,775 --> 00:10:41,509 BAN OR BURN BOOKS," BUT THAT'S 407 00:10:41,509 --> 00:10:42,910 WHAT'S HAPPENING. 408 00:10:42,910 --> 00:10:44,312 YOU CAN SAY "WE JUST WANT MORE 409 00:10:44,312 --> 00:10:45,279 KIDS," BUT YOU'RE MAKING LIFE 410 00:10:45,279 --> 00:10:48,182 INCREDIBLY HARD FOR PEOPLE, 411 00:10:48,182 --> 00:10:48,816 INCLUDING THOSE WHO DESPERATELY 412 00:10:48,816 --> 00:10:50,184 WANT THEM. 413 00:10:50,184 --> 00:10:50,818 BURNING BOOKS AND ENDING IVF IS 414 00:10:50,818 --> 00:10:54,021 THE NATURAL ENDPOINT OF THE 415 00:10:54,021 --> 00:10:55,189 EXTREME POLICIES THEY'VE HELD 416 00:10:55,189 --> 00:10:57,158 HANDS WITH, AND IF THEY'RE NOT 417 00:10:57,158 --> 00:10:58,926 AT LEAST WILLING TO OWN THOSE 418 00:10:58,926 --> 00:11:01,062 CONSEQUENCES, THEN THEY CAN, IN 419 00:11:01,062 --> 00:11:01,662 THE WORDS OF WHAT I BELIEVE TO 420 00:11:01,662 --> 00:11:02,198 BE THIS COUNTRY'S GREATEST 421 00:11:02,198 --> 00:11:03,064 PUBLIC SPEAKER-- 422 00:11:03,064 --> 00:11:04,832 EAT A BUTTHOLE. 423 00:11:04,832 --> 00:11:05,700 John: WELL SAID. 424 00:11:05,700 --> 00:11:11,038 AND NOW, THIS. 425 00:11:11,038 --> 00:11:17,545 Announcer: AND NOW, MORE 426 00:11:17,545 --> 00:11:19,147 EXPLICIT READINGS FROM CONCERNED 427 00:11:19,147 --> 00:11:19,881 CITIZENS AT PUBLIC MEETINGS. 428 00:11:19,881 --> 00:11:22,416 THE BOY TALK TO SOFT TO HER 429 00:11:22,416 --> 00:11:23,818 ABOUT HOW GOOD SHE LOOKED AND 430 00:11:23,818 --> 00:11:25,386 THINGS LIKE THAT, AND SHE 431 00:11:25,386 --> 00:11:27,255 GRABBED HIS PENIS WITH HER HANDS 432 00:11:27,255 --> 00:11:28,189 AND STARTED MOVING IT. 433 00:11:28,189 --> 00:11:30,892 IT FELT SO GOOD, SO FUCKING 434 00:11:30,892 --> 00:11:31,294 GOOD. 435 00:11:31,294 --> 00:11:33,427 I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE DON'T DO 436 00:11:33,427 --> 00:11:35,797 ANYTHING BUT HAVE SEX IF THEY 437 00:11:35,797 --> 00:11:37,565 AREN'T ADULTS OR HAVE PARENTS. 438 00:11:37,565 --> 00:11:39,167 ON TOP OF THE VALENCIA WHILE 439 00:11:39,167 --> 00:11:40,601 MAKING LOVE TO WORK, BILLY MADE 440 00:11:40,601 --> 00:11:43,504 A NOISE LIKE A SMALL, RUSTY 441 00:11:43,504 --> 00:11:47,208 HINGE PARAKEET ENTERED HIS 442 00:11:47,208 --> 00:11:48,376 SEMINAL VESICLES INTO HER. 443 00:11:48,376 --> 00:11:49,944 I HAD SUCKED MY PAIR OF 444 00:11:49,944 --> 00:11:52,613 DICK'S, GIVEN HAND JOBS AND 445 00:11:52,613 --> 00:11:54,582 JOBS, BLOW JOBS, BUT THE ONLY 446 00:11:54,582 --> 00:11:57,752 BOOK BUT SEX I HAD WAS THIS 447 00:11:57,752 --> 00:11:58,087 JUNIOR WHO-- 448 00:11:58,087 --> 00:12:01,155 AND I PULL AND I SUCK UNTIL 449 00:12:01,155 --> 00:12:02,490 HE GROANS AND MAKE SOUNDS, AND I 450 00:12:02,490 --> 00:12:05,426 KEEP GOING AND GOING. 451 00:12:05,426 --> 00:12:08,429 AND WHEN HE SAYS "I'M GOING TO 452 00:12:08,429 --> 00:12:12,934 CUM, I DON'T PULL AWAY. 453 00:12:12,934 --> 00:12:14,535 SALLE-- 454 00:12:14,535 --> 00:12:15,105 IT TASTES LIKE THICK SWEAT. 455 00:12:15,105 --> 00:12:17,738 YOU CAN PULL OUT OR FUCK HER 456 00:12:17,738 --> 00:12:18,174 TOO HARD. 457 00:12:18,174 --> 00:12:21,576 MY ONLY CHALLENGE WAS BRIAN 458 00:12:21,576 --> 00:12:22,844 WHO WAS MY JERICHO FRIEND WHO 459 00:12:22,844 --> 00:12:24,212 LIKES TO JERK ME OFF. 460 00:12:24,212 --> 00:12:27,415 I HAVE 20 PUSSIES HERE THAT I 461 00:12:27,415 --> 00:12:29,250 HAVE TWO NEAT. 462 00:12:29,250 --> 00:12:31,385 I'M ON PUSSY DEADLINE. 463 00:12:31,385 --> 00:12:33,721 IT'S WHICH IS. 464 00:12:33,721 --> 00:12:35,022 IT'S ALL SO FUCKING COMPLICATED. 465 00:12:35,022 --> 00:12:37,225 I JUST WANT TO MENTION, I'VE 466 00:12:37,225 --> 00:12:39,026 NEVER SAID THE F-WORD EVER IN MY 467 00:12:39,026 --> 00:12:41,562 LIFE BEFORE UNTIL JUST NOW. 468 00:12:41,562 --> 00:12:43,598 [LAUGHTER] 469 00:12:43,598 --> 00:12:45,502 PLUS TICK 470 00:12:48,772 --> 00:12:49,403 John: MOVING ON. 471 00:12:49,403 --> 00:12:50,905 OUR MAIN STORY TONIGHT CONCERNS 472 00:12:50,905 --> 00:12:52,774 THE INTERNET. 473 00:12:52,774 --> 00:12:53,407 IT CAN BE A MAGICAL PLACE, BUT 474 00:12:53,407 --> 00:12:54,909 ALSO ONE WHERE THINGS AREN'T 475 00:12:54,909 --> 00:12:55,543 ALWAYS WHAT THEY SEEM-- AS THIS 476 00:12:55,543 --> 00:12:56,711 WOMAN LEARNED THE HARD WAY. 477 00:12:56,711 --> 00:12:57,411 QUEEN SHAYDONNA HAYNESWORTH 478 00:12:57,411 --> 00:12:58,179 THOUGHT SHE BOUGHT THIS: THE 479 00:12:58,179 --> 00:12:59,180 INSTAGRAM AD DISPLAYING A TREE 480 00:12:59,180 --> 00:13:02,350 THAT FITS IN A LIVING ROOM, NOT 481 00:13:02,350 --> 00:13:04,752 THE PALM OF HER HAND. 482 00:13:04,752 --> 00:13:05,021 YOOOOO! 483 00:13:05,021 --> 00:13:05,588 THIS IS A RAINBOW CHRISTMAS 484 00:13:05,588 --> 00:13:06,954 TREE? 485 00:13:06,954 --> 00:13:08,623 LIKE, SERIOUSLY? 486 00:13:08,623 --> 00:13:10,391 LIKE, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR 487 00:13:10,391 --> 00:13:15,229 THIS? 488 00:13:15,229 --> 00:13:16,497 John: YEAH, IT MUST'VE BEEN 489 00:13:16,497 --> 00:13:17,498 PRETTY DISAPPOINTING, TO ORDER A 490 00:13:17,498 --> 00:13:19,100 FULL-SIZE TREE AND GET WHATEVER 491 00:13:19,100 --> 00:13:20,902 THAT IS. 492 00:13:20,902 --> 00:13:22,603 SHE MUST'VE FELT LIKE HBO DID 493 00:13:22,603 --> 00:13:23,871 WHEN THEY ORDERED A COMEDY SHOW 494 00:13:23,871 --> 00:13:26,574 AND GOT THIS INSTEAD. 495 00:13:26,574 --> 00:13:29,010 UNFORTUNATELY, NOT EVERY MISTAKE 496 00:13:29,010 --> 00:13:29,479 IS THAT BENIGN. 497 00:13:29,479 --> 00:13:30,445 IT'S NOT NEWS THAT THERE ARE 498 00:13:30,445 --> 00:13:31,479 SCAMMERS ON THE INTERNET, BUT 499 00:13:31,479 --> 00:13:32,780 YOU MAY'VE NOTICED, ONE SCAM IN 500 00:13:32,780 --> 00:13:34,182 PARTICULAR IS CURRENTLY 501 00:13:34,182 --> 00:13:35,683 EVERYWHERE. 502 00:13:35,683 --> 00:13:37,885 A COMMON WAY IT STARTS IS WITH A 503 00:13:37,885 --> 00:13:38,455 WEIRD TEXT FROM A NUMBER YOU 504 00:13:38,455 --> 00:13:39,086 DON'T RECOGNIZE, LIKE, "CHERYL, 505 00:13:39,086 --> 00:13:40,488 CAN WE MOVE LUNCH TO 5:00?" 506 00:13:40,488 --> 00:13:41,989 WHEN YOU'RE NOT CHERYL. 507 00:13:41,989 --> 00:13:42,890 OR "DAVE, WHAT TIME IS OUR 508 00:13:42,890 --> 00:13:44,225 FLIGHT?" 509 00:13:44,225 --> 00:13:45,059 WHEN YOU'RE NOT DAVE AND YOU 510 00:13:45,059 --> 00:13:46,561 DON'T HAVE A FLIGHT BOOKED. 511 00:13:46,561 --> 00:13:47,428 EVEN AS WE WORKED ON THIS PIECE, 512 00:13:47,428 --> 00:13:49,664 MEMBERS OF OUR STAFF AND THEIR 513 00:13:49,664 --> 00:13:50,200 FRIENDS WERE GETTING THESE 514 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,265 MESSAGES, FROM "HELLO IS THIS 515 00:13:51,265 --> 00:13:52,967 THE MANAGER JESSE FROM THE 516 00:13:52,967 --> 00:13:53,835 FLOWER SHOP?" 517 00:13:53,835 --> 00:13:54,602 TO THIS ONE, READING, "IS THIS 518 00:13:54,602 --> 00:13:56,003 DR. JOHN? 519 00:13:56,003 --> 00:13:56,904 I'M EMILY, IS MY HORSE 520 00:13:56,904 --> 00:14:00,074 RECOVERING WELL?" 521 00:14:00,074 --> 00:14:01,042 AND I'M GLAD THAT WASN'T SENT TO 522 00:14:01,042 --> 00:14:02,477 ME, BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE 523 00:14:02,477 --> 00:14:03,911 WORKED. 524 00:14:03,911 --> 00:14:06,447 YOU'RE CALLING ME DOCTOR JOHN? 525 00:14:06,447 --> 00:14:07,815 INSTANTLY ON BOARD. 526 00:14:07,815 --> 00:14:08,816 AND YOU'RE ASSUMING I'M AROUND A 527 00:14:08,816 --> 00:14:10,084 HORSE FOR MEDICAL REASONS? 528 00:14:10,084 --> 00:14:11,152 THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN 529 00:14:11,152 --> 00:14:12,286 SAYING! 530 00:14:12,286 --> 00:14:13,020 I'M ALLOWED TO TOUCH IT LIKE 531 00:14:13,020 --> 00:14:14,622 THAT. 532 00:14:14,622 --> 00:14:16,791 I'M A DOCTOR! 533 00:14:16,791 --> 00:14:17,391 AND I KNOW MOST PEOPLE IGNORE 534 00:14:17,391 --> 00:14:19,994 MESSAGES LIKE THOSE. 535 00:14:19,994 --> 00:14:21,596 BUT SOME WRITE BACK, GET SUCKED 536 00:14:21,596 --> 00:14:22,797 INTO A CONVERSATION AND 537 00:14:22,797 --> 00:14:23,898 EVENTUALLY-- THROUGH A PROCESS 538 00:14:23,898 --> 00:14:26,067 WE'LL GET INTO-- CAN END UP 539 00:14:26,067 --> 00:14:26,768 LOSING A LOT OF MONEY. 540 00:14:26,768 --> 00:14:28,002 IT'S A SCAM WITH A STRIKING NAME 541 00:14:28,002 --> 00:14:29,604 THAT NEWSCASTERS CAN'T SEEM TO 542 00:14:29,604 --> 00:14:31,773 GET OVER. 543 00:14:31,773 --> 00:14:32,673 IT'S CALLED A PIG BUTCHERING 544 00:14:32,673 --> 00:14:33,908 SCAM. 545 00:14:33,908 --> 00:14:35,143 AND IT MIGHT SOUND LIKE A 546 00:14:35,143 --> 00:14:36,344 GRUESOME NAME, BUT THAT'S 547 00:14:36,344 --> 00:14:38,012 BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY 548 00:14:38,012 --> 00:14:40,248 VICTIMS ARE LOSING IS PAINFUL. 549 00:14:40,248 --> 00:14:42,316 THE SCAMMERS HAVE A TERRIBLE 550 00:14:42,316 --> 00:14:42,819 TERM FOR WHAT WENDY WENT 551 00:14:42,819 --> 00:14:43,818 THROUGH. 552 00:14:43,818 --> 00:14:46,053 THEY CALL IT PIG BUTCHERING. 553 00:14:46,053 --> 00:14:46,821 THE NEW MEXICO SECURITIES 554 00:14:46,821 --> 00:14:47,555 DIVISION CALLS THEM "PIG 555 00:14:47,555 --> 00:14:49,791 BUTCHERING SCAMS." 556 00:14:49,791 --> 00:14:51,192 I KNOW, BUT LISTEN, DON'T WORRY, 557 00:14:51,192 --> 00:14:52,393 THERE ARE NO PIGS OR ANY OTHER 558 00:14:52,393 --> 00:14:54,695 ANIMALS INVOLVED. 559 00:14:54,695 --> 00:14:56,764 John: YES, DON'T WORRY, THERE 560 00:14:56,764 --> 00:14:58,065 ARE NO PIGS HARMED IN "THIS" PIG 561 00:14:58,065 --> 00:14:58,434 BUTCHERING SCAM. 562 00:14:58,434 --> 00:14:59,367 ALTHOUGH, IF THE WORDS DO MAKE 563 00:14:59,367 --> 00:15:00,935 YOU SQUEAMISH, IT'S WORTH NOTING 564 00:15:00,935 --> 00:15:01,504 THAT THAT THERE IS A PROCESS 565 00:15:01,504 --> 00:15:02,570 THROUGH WHICH PIGS ARE HARMED 566 00:15:02,570 --> 00:15:03,771 EVERY DAY. 567 00:15:03,771 --> 00:15:06,340 IT'S ACTUALLY HOW WE GET BACON, 568 00:15:06,340 --> 00:15:06,843 PORK AND OTHER PRODUCTS. 569 00:15:06,843 --> 00:15:08,276 IT'S CALLED PIG BUTCHERING, AND 570 00:15:08,276 --> 00:15:08,845 IT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT SOUNDS 571 00:15:08,845 --> 00:15:10,111 LIKE. 572 00:15:10,111 --> 00:15:11,279 BUT THE NAME MAKES A LITTLE MORE 573 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:12,814 SENSE, ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND HOW 574 00:15:12,814 --> 00:15:15,716 THE SCAM ACTUALLY WORKS. 575 00:15:15,716 --> 00:15:16,951 IN THE WORLD OF CYBER AND 576 00:15:16,951 --> 00:15:18,553 COUNTERTERRORISM THREATS. 577 00:15:18,553 --> 00:15:19,187 SPECIAL AGENT HASSANI HAS SEEN 578 00:15:19,187 --> 00:15:21,756 IT ALL. 579 00:15:21,756 --> 00:15:23,357 BUT IN 2021, HE BEGAN SEEING A 580 00:15:23,357 --> 00:15:26,594 NEW SCAM: PIG BUTCHERING. 581 00:15:26,594 --> 00:15:28,463 BUT IT JUST REFERS TO RAISING 582 00:15:28,463 --> 00:15:29,564 LITTLE PIGLETS, FATTENING THEM 583 00:15:29,564 --> 00:15:32,667 UP, AND BUTCHERING THEM. 584 00:15:32,667 --> 00:15:35,002 AND THEY'RE FATTENING UP THEIR 585 00:15:35,002 --> 00:15:36,270 VICTIM WITH ILLUSIONS OF 586 00:15:36,270 --> 00:15:38,406 GRANDEUR, OF WEALTH, OF LOVE, 587 00:15:38,406 --> 00:15:41,275 BEFORE BLEEDING THEM DRY. 588 00:15:41,275 --> 00:15:42,677 John: THAT'S ROUGH. 589 00:15:42,677 --> 00:15:43,544 BECAUSE IMAGINE BEING A VICTIM 590 00:15:43,544 --> 00:15:45,279 OF THIS SCAM, TURNING ON THE 591 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:46,581 NEWS AND SUDDENLY LEARNING THE 592 00:15:46,581 --> 00:15:50,051 SHORTHAND FOR PEOPLE IN YOUR 593 00:15:50,051 --> 00:15:50,553 SITUATION IS "THE PIGS." 594 00:15:50,553 --> 00:15:51,185 ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY-- IT COULD 595 00:15:51,185 --> 00:15:52,487 BE WORSE. 596 00:15:52,487 --> 00:15:53,754 PIGS ARE AWESOME! 597 00:15:53,754 --> 00:15:55,189 THEY'RE ONE OF THE MOST 598 00:15:55,189 --> 00:15:55,890 INTELLIGENT ANIMALS ON THE 599 00:15:55,890 --> 00:15:57,358 PLANET. 600 00:15:57,358 --> 00:15:58,626 THEY'RE SMARTER THAN DOGS, MOST 601 00:15:58,626 --> 00:16:00,228 3-YEAR-OLDS, AND TOM SANDOVAL. 602 00:16:00,228 --> 00:16:01,162 TO USE A PHRASE THE POLICE NEVER 603 00:16:01,162 --> 00:16:02,597 SEEM TO APPRECIATE: IT'S 604 00:16:02,597 --> 00:16:04,098 ACTUALLY AN HONOR TO BE COMPARED 605 00:16:04,098 --> 00:16:04,966 TO A PIG! 606 00:16:04,966 --> 00:16:06,968 AND IF YOU'RE THINKING, "THIS 607 00:16:06,968 --> 00:16:07,537 SEEMS LIKE THE KIND OF SCAM 608 00:16:07,537 --> 00:16:09,337 THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR DECADES." 609 00:16:09,337 --> 00:16:10,538 THAT'S PARTIALLY TRUE, BUT THE 610 00:16:10,538 --> 00:16:12,039 WAY THIS ONE WORKS IS FAIRLY 611 00:16:12,039 --> 00:16:13,474 NEW. 612 00:16:13,474 --> 00:16:14,408 AND IN THE SHORT TIME IT'S BEEN 613 00:16:14,408 --> 00:16:15,877 AROUND, IT'S BEEN MASSIVELY 614 00:16:15,877 --> 00:16:17,178 SUCCESSFUL. 615 00:16:17,178 --> 00:16:18,513 JUST THIS MONTH, IT WAS AT THE 616 00:16:18,513 --> 00:16:19,380 CENTER OF A HUGE LOCAL NEWS 617 00:16:19,380 --> 00:16:22,116 STORY IN KANSAS, WHERE IT 618 00:16:22,116 --> 00:16:22,619 BROUGHT DOWN A FINANCIAL 619 00:16:22,619 --> 00:16:23,351 INSTITUTION. 620 00:16:23,351 --> 00:16:24,752 I WAS SURPRISED. 621 00:16:24,752 --> 00:16:25,953 I WAS SHOCKED. 622 00:16:25,953 --> 00:16:26,821 I WAS DISAPPOINTED. 623 00:16:26,821 --> 00:16:28,990 KANSAS STATE BANK 624 00:16:28,990 --> 00:16:29,590 COMMISSIONER DAVID HERNDON IS 625 00:16:29,590 --> 00:16:30,925 TALKING ABOUT THE MASSIVE 626 00:16:30,925 --> 00:16:32,660 CRYPTOCURRENCY SCAM AT THE 627 00:16:32,660 --> 00:16:35,029 HEARTLAND TRI-STATE BANK IN 628 00:16:35,029 --> 00:16:35,265 ELKHART. 629 00:16:35,265 --> 00:16:38,132 IN A CRYPTOCURRENCY SCHEME 630 00:16:38,132 --> 00:16:40,768 THAT THE FBI HAS NOW REFERRED TO 631 00:16:40,768 --> 00:16:42,036 AS PIG BUTCHERING. 632 00:16:42,036 --> 00:16:44,572 IN THIS CASE, HERNDON SAYS, 633 00:16:44,572 --> 00:16:46,374 THE VICTIM WAS SHAN HANES, THE 634 00:16:46,374 --> 00:16:48,643 BANK'S OWN CEO. 635 00:16:48,643 --> 00:16:50,344 AND HE'S NOW FACING CHARGES OF 636 00:16:50,344 --> 00:16:53,514 EMBEZZLING NEARLY $50 MILLION, A 637 00:16:53,514 --> 00:16:55,483 LOSS THAT CAUSED THE BANK TO 638 00:16:55,483 --> 00:16:58,920 FAIL LAST AUGUST. 639 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,455 John: IT'S TRUE. 640 00:17:00,455 --> 00:17:01,088 ACCORDING TO PROSECUTORS, A BANK 641 00:17:01,088 --> 00:17:02,290 CEO GOT PIG-BUTCHERED, SENT HIS 642 00:17:02,290 --> 00:17:02,924 SCAMMER THE BANK'S HOLDINGS, AND 643 00:17:02,924 --> 00:17:04,325 THE BANK WENT UNDER. 644 00:17:04,325 --> 00:17:05,259 WHICH IS ALARMING FOR SEVERAL 645 00:17:05,259 --> 00:17:10,331 REASONS, AMONG THEM-- IS THAT 646 00:17:10,331 --> 00:17:11,599 HOW BANKS WORK? 647 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:13,401 BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE THERE 648 00:17:13,401 --> 00:17:14,202 SHOULD BE AT LEAST ONE STEP 649 00:17:14,202 --> 00:17:15,403 BETWEEN "CEO GETS TRICKED" AND 650 00:17:15,403 --> 00:17:17,572 "WHOOPS, THE BANK'S EMPTY." 651 00:17:17,572 --> 00:17:19,340 IT'S ESTIMATED THAT, AS OF 2022, 652 00:17:19,340 --> 00:17:20,274 THIS SCAM WAS TAKING PEOPLE FOR 653 00:17:20,274 --> 00:17:22,410 MORE THAN $3 BILLION A YEAR IN 654 00:17:22,410 --> 00:17:24,445 THE US ALONE. 655 00:17:24,445 --> 00:17:25,413 AND THAT'S ALMOST CERTAINLY A 656 00:17:25,413 --> 00:17:27,215 MASSIVE UNDERCOUNT, AS IT ONLY 657 00:17:27,215 --> 00:17:28,182 INCLUDES PEOPLE WHO REPORTED 658 00:17:28,182 --> 00:17:31,018 THEIR LOSSES TO THE FBI. 659 00:17:31,018 --> 00:17:32,854 SO GIVEN ALL THAT, TONIGHT, 660 00:17:32,854 --> 00:17:34,789 LET'S TALK ABOUT PIG BUTCHERING: 661 00:17:34,789 --> 00:17:36,023 WHY IT'S EASIER TO FALL FOR THAN 662 00:17:36,023 --> 00:17:36,624 YOU MIGHT THINK, WHO'S BEHIND 663 00:17:36,624 --> 00:17:38,893 IT, AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO 664 00:17:38,893 --> 00:17:41,062 PROTECT OURSELVES AND OUR LIKED 665 00:17:41,062 --> 00:17:41,696 ONES FROM GETTING SCAMMED IN THE 666 00:17:41,696 --> 00:17:43,297 FUTURE. 667 00:17:43,297 --> 00:17:44,799 AND LET'S START WITH WHERE THIS 668 00:17:44,799 --> 00:17:45,433 BEGAN. 669 00:17:45,433 --> 00:17:46,467 AND TO DO THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, 670 00:17:46,467 --> 00:17:48,035 WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE PLACE 671 00:17:48,035 --> 00:17:50,204 NO ONE WANTS TO GO: THE 672 00:17:50,204 --> 00:17:50,640 BEGINNING OF COVID. 673 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,807 YOU REMEMBER COVID. 674 00:17:52,807 --> 00:17:53,343 IT'S THE STEPHEN MILLER OF 675 00:17:53,343 --> 00:17:54,709 DISEASES, IN THAT WE WERE ALL 676 00:17:54,709 --> 00:17:55,777 WORRIED ABOUT IT A FEW YEARS AGO 677 00:17:55,777 --> 00:17:57,512 AND HAVE SINCE MOVED ON, EVEN 678 00:17:57,512 --> 00:17:59,781 THOUGH IT IS STILL VERY 679 00:17:59,781 --> 00:18:02,083 DANGEROUS. 680 00:18:02,083 --> 00:18:02,683 BUT THAT'S WHEN PIG BUTCHERING 681 00:18:02,683 --> 00:18:04,318 TOOK OFF. 682 00:18:04,318 --> 00:18:04,888 BASICALLY, AT THE START OF 683 00:18:04,888 --> 00:18:05,620 COVID, MANY OF US WERE ISOLATED 684 00:18:05,620 --> 00:18:07,088 AND LONELY, DESPERATELY LOOKING 685 00:18:07,088 --> 00:18:08,756 FOR HUMAN CONTACT ONLINE-- 686 00:18:08,756 --> 00:18:10,391 WHICH MADE US RIPE TARGETS. 687 00:18:10,391 --> 00:18:11,993 AT THE SAME TIME, ORGANIZED 688 00:18:11,993 --> 00:18:14,328 CRIME GROUPS IN CHINA, RUNNING 689 00:18:14,328 --> 00:18:15,730 CASINOS IN SOUTHEAST ASIA, WERE 690 00:18:15,730 --> 00:18:17,365 IN CRISIS, AS-- THANKS TO THE 691 00:18:17,365 --> 00:18:19,000 PANDEMIC-- GAMBLERS WEREN'T 692 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,003 SHOWING UP. 693 00:18:22,003 --> 00:18:22,603 SO, THEY TURNED THOSE CASINOS 694 00:18:22,603 --> 00:18:24,672 INTO BASES FOR ONLINE SCAM 695 00:18:24,672 --> 00:18:26,140 OPERATIONS. 696 00:18:26,140 --> 00:18:26,741 AND FROM THERE, THEIR WORKERS 697 00:18:26,741 --> 00:18:28,176 IDENTIFIED PEOPLE AND PREYED ON 698 00:18:28,176 --> 00:18:30,578 THEIR VULNERABILITIES. 699 00:18:30,578 --> 00:18:31,379 AND LET ME WALK YOU THROUGH THE 700 00:18:31,379 --> 00:18:32,547 STEPS. 701 00:18:32,547 --> 00:18:33,147 THE FIRST IS TO MAKE CONTACT, 702 00:18:33,147 --> 00:18:35,016 AND LURE YOUR TARGET IN. 703 00:18:35,016 --> 00:18:37,418 LISTEN TO THIS WOMAN EXPLAIN HOW 704 00:18:37,418 --> 00:18:38,052 HER SCAMMER, WHO CALLED HIMSELF 705 00:18:38,052 --> 00:18:39,520 "JIMMY," CONTACTED HER AT A 706 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,822 MOMENT WHEN SHE WAS DEALING WITH 707 00:18:40,822 --> 00:18:42,190 CANCER, THE PANDEMIC, AND THE 708 00:18:42,190 --> 00:18:44,492 END OF HER MARRIAGE. 709 00:18:44,492 --> 00:18:45,626 FIRST MESSAGE, IT CAME AS A 710 00:18:45,626 --> 00:18:52,695 VERY INNOCENT MESSAGE. 711 00:18:55,705 --> 00:18:57,240 IS! 712 00:19:01,478 --> 00:19:04,378 I SAID, "WRONG NUMBER." 713 00:19:04,378 --> 00:19:06,848 HE CAME BACK, "YOU LOOK CHINESE. 714 00:19:06,848 --> 00:19:08,549 ARE YOU CHINESE?" 715 00:19:08,549 --> 00:19:10,151 AND I SAID YES. 716 00:19:10,151 --> 00:19:11,152 HE HAD MOVED HERE JUST BEFORE 717 00:19:11,152 --> 00:19:12,153 COVID, AND THEN COVID HIT, AND 718 00:19:12,153 --> 00:19:15,623 SO HE'S NOT ABLE TO GO HOME. 719 00:19:15,623 --> 00:19:20,328 HE WAS A LONELY MAN IN NEED OF 720 00:19:20,328 --> 00:19:27,397 COMFORT. 721 00:19:27,671 --> 00:19:29,837 JIMMY WOULD MESSAGE ME EVERY 722 00:19:29,837 --> 00:19:30,006 DAY. 723 00:19:30,006 --> 00:19:30,605 I DO REMEMBER RECEIVING THESE 724 00:19:30,605 --> 00:19:36,744 EMOJIS WITH HEARTS. 725 00:19:36,744 --> 00:19:38,646 ♪ ♪ 726 00:19:38,646 --> 00:19:40,982 [HEART BEATING] 727 00:19:40,982 --> 00:19:41,551 IT'S QUITE FLATTERING FOR A 728 00:19:41,551 --> 00:19:42,583 MIDDLE-AGED WOMAN TO MEET A 729 00:19:42,583 --> 00:19:44,452 YOUNG MAN WHO FINDS YOU 730 00:19:44,452 --> 00:19:45,720 ATTRACTIVE. 731 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:46,654 John: YEAH, OF COURSE THAT'S 732 00:19:46,654 --> 00:19:48,022 FLATTERING. 733 00:19:48,022 --> 00:19:49,991 BECAUSE SCAMMERS ARE TELLING 734 00:19:49,991 --> 00:19:50,625 THEIR TARGETS WHAT THEY WANT TO 735 00:19:50,625 --> 00:19:51,359 HEAR MOST IN THAT MOMENT. 736 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:52,360 WE MIGHT NOT "ALL" FALL FOR A 737 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:53,895 GIF OF A HEART-PUMPING EMOJI, 738 00:19:53,895 --> 00:19:55,496 BUT IF SOMEONE SENT "ME" "NERD 739 00:19:55,496 --> 00:19:56,664 WITH GLASSES" PLUS "FOOTBALL" 740 00:19:56,664 --> 00:19:57,665 PLUS "LEARNING" PLUS "SAD 741 00:19:57,665 --> 00:19:59,233 STATISTICS" = "FIRE EMOJI," ME 742 00:19:59,233 --> 00:20:02,236 PERSONALLY? 743 00:20:02,236 --> 00:20:05,873 WHY, I WOULD NUT! 744 00:20:05,873 --> 00:20:07,141 AND LOOK: ONE WAY OF MAKING 745 00:20:07,141 --> 00:20:09,310 CONTACT IS THROUGH THOSE "WRONG 746 00:20:09,310 --> 00:20:10,344 NUMBER" TEXTS. 747 00:20:10,344 --> 00:20:11,245 BUT EXPERTS WE'VE TALKED TO 748 00:20:11,245 --> 00:20:12,747 ESTIMATE THEY ONLY MAKE UP ABOUT 749 00:20:12,747 --> 00:20:14,782 A QUARTER OF THE INITIAL 750 00:20:14,782 --> 00:20:17,318 CONTACTS FOR THIS SCAM. 751 00:20:17,318 --> 00:20:18,252 THE REST CAN COME THROUGH SITES 752 00:20:18,252 --> 00:20:21,522 LIKE LINKEDIN, DATING APPS, 753 00:20:21,522 --> 00:20:22,824 INSTAGRAM OR FACEBOOK-- PLACES 754 00:20:22,824 --> 00:20:24,592 SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR YOU TO 755 00:20:24,592 --> 00:20:26,260 MEET PEOPLE YOU DON'T KNOW, 756 00:20:26,260 --> 00:20:27,728 EITHER FOR LOVE, A HOOK UP OR, 757 00:20:27,728 --> 00:20:29,497 IN THE CASE OF LINKEDIN, TO FIND 758 00:20:29,497 --> 00:20:32,600 OUT WHAT KIND OF PERSON IS 759 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,169 "STILL" ON FUCKING LINKEDIN. 760 00:20:33,169 --> 00:20:34,035 AND SCAMMERS OFTEN RESEARCH 761 00:20:34,035 --> 00:20:35,436 THEIR TARGET USING SOCIAL MEDIA 762 00:20:35,436 --> 00:20:36,604 WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF 763 00:20:36,604 --> 00:20:38,306 INFORMATION ON PEOPLE-- SO THEY 764 00:20:38,306 --> 00:20:39,073 CAN PRETEND TO HAVE SOMETHING IN 765 00:20:39,073 --> 00:20:40,775 COMMON. 766 00:20:40,775 --> 00:20:41,409 TAKE THIS WOMAN, WHO MET SOMEONE 767 00:20:41,409 --> 00:20:42,577 ON A DATING APP, ONLY TO 768 00:20:42,577 --> 00:20:44,011 DISCOVER THEY SHARED AN 769 00:20:44,011 --> 00:20:45,646 UNEXPECTED CONNECTION. 770 00:20:45,646 --> 00:20:47,415 HE STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS 771 00:20:47,415 --> 00:20:48,883 ABOUT MY FAMILY AND MY PAST 772 00:20:48,883 --> 00:20:50,284 EXPERIENCES. 773 00:20:50,284 --> 00:20:51,052 IT WAS A CONNECTION THAT FELT 774 00:20:51,052 --> 00:20:53,387 EVEN STRONGER, SHE SAYS, WHEN HE 775 00:20:53,387 --> 00:20:53,988 TOLD HER HE CAME FROM THE SAME 776 00:20:53,988 --> 00:20:55,356 TOWN IN CHINA FROM WHERE 777 00:20:55,356 --> 00:20:57,291 HUTCHINSON WAS ADOPTED. 778 00:20:57,291 --> 00:20:59,193 WE KIND OF BONDED OVER THAT. 779 00:20:59,193 --> 00:21:00,761 John: YEAH, I BET THEY DID! 780 00:21:00,761 --> 00:21:02,463 AND I'VE GOT TO SAY, IT SAYS 781 00:21:02,463 --> 00:21:03,064 SOMETHING ABOUT MEN ON DATING 782 00:21:03,064 --> 00:21:03,764 APPS THAT THEY CONNECTED SO 783 00:21:03,764 --> 00:21:05,533 WELL, SIMPLY BECAUSE HE DID 784 00:21:05,533 --> 00:21:06,834 THINGS LIKE "ASK HER QUESTIONS 785 00:21:06,834 --> 00:21:08,102 ABOUT HERSELF" AND "LISTEN TO 786 00:21:08,102 --> 00:21:10,071 HER RESPONSES." 787 00:21:10,071 --> 00:21:10,972 I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE BAR FOR 788 00:21:10,972 --> 00:21:12,540 MEN IS LOW, BUT THAT STORY 789 00:21:12,540 --> 00:21:14,008 STARTED WITH HIM ASKING HER 790 00:21:14,008 --> 00:21:15,443 QUESTIONS ABOUT HER LIFE AND 791 00:21:15,443 --> 00:21:16,944 ENDS WITH HER "GIVING HIM ALL OF 792 00:21:16,944 --> 00:21:18,613 HER MONEY." 793 00:21:18,613 --> 00:21:19,847 BUT REGARDLESS OF HOW THEY 794 00:21:19,847 --> 00:21:22,550 START, SOONER OR LATER, WE MOVE 795 00:21:22,550 --> 00:21:23,119 ON TO STEP TWO: TURNING THE 796 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,052 CONVERSATION TOWARD MONEY. 797 00:21:25,052 --> 00:21:25,987 BUT EVEN THEN, THERE'S A SMART 798 00:21:25,987 --> 00:21:28,122 TWIST. 799 00:21:28,122 --> 00:21:29,390 BECAUSE YOU WON'T BE SUDDENLY 800 00:21:29,390 --> 00:21:32,093 ASKED TO WIRE MONEY TO A 801 00:21:32,093 --> 00:21:33,427 NIGERIAN PRINCE WITH AN 802 00:21:33,427 --> 00:21:36,731 OBVIOUSLY FAKE EMAIL LIKE "REAL 803 00:21:36,731 --> 00:21:38,533 PRINCE SPELLED WITH A ONE 804 00:21:38,533 --> 00:21:39,102 INSTEAD OF AN I AT SCUM DOT 805 00:21:39,102 --> 00:21:41,002 FARTS." 806 00:21:41,002 --> 00:21:41,969 WITH PIG BUTCHERING, THERE'S NO 807 00:21:41,969 --> 00:21:43,771 DIRECT ASK FOR MONEY AT ALL. 808 00:21:43,771 --> 00:21:45,106 INSTEAD, AN OPPORTUNITY GETS 809 00:21:45,106 --> 00:21:47,008 PRESENTED. 810 00:21:47,008 --> 00:21:47,608 WATCH AS THIS MAN EXPLAINS THE 811 00:21:47,608 --> 00:21:49,577 MOMENT WHEN A GUY HE MET ON A 812 00:21:49,577 --> 00:21:50,211 DATING SITE STARTED TO REEL HIM 813 00:21:50,211 --> 00:21:51,245 IN. 814 00:21:51,245 --> 00:21:52,079 HE SPENT AT LEAST A MONTH 815 00:21:52,079 --> 00:21:53,314 DAILY TALKING TO ME AND 816 00:21:53,314 --> 00:21:53,850 CULTIVATING MY FRIENDSHIP. 817 00:21:53,850 --> 00:21:55,583 INITIALLY, THE ONLY TALK 818 00:21:55,583 --> 00:21:57,785 ABOUT MONEY WAS HOW MUCH HIS NEW 819 00:21:57,785 --> 00:21:59,187 ONLINE FRIEND HAD MADE IN 820 00:21:59,187 --> 00:22:01,322 CRYPTO. 821 00:22:01,322 --> 00:22:02,623 AFTER ALL, SCOTT THOUGHT HE KNEW 822 00:22:02,623 --> 00:22:03,591 HOW TO PROTECT HIMSELF FROM 823 00:22:03,591 --> 00:22:05,059 SCAMS. 824 00:22:05,059 --> 00:22:06,994 YOU CAN INVEST WITH ME AND 825 00:22:06,994 --> 00:22:11,833 I'LL MAKE YOU ALL THIS MONEY AND 826 00:22:11,833 --> 00:22:14,535 I WAS LIKE "I'M NOT GIVING YOU 827 00:22:14,535 --> 00:22:17,605 MONEY, THAT'S NOT HAPPENING." 828 00:22:17,605 --> 00:22:18,339 SO THAT'S WHEN HE STARTED, "NO, 829 00:22:18,339 --> 00:22:20,575 YOU DON'T GIVE IT TO ME. 830 00:22:20,575 --> 00:22:22,110 YOU ESTABLISH YOUR OWN ACCOUNT 831 00:22:22,110 --> 00:22:23,578 AND I'LL GUIDE YOU." 832 00:22:23,578 --> 00:22:25,246 John: RIGHT. 833 00:22:25,246 --> 00:22:25,880 THAT'S THE CLEVER HOOK HERE-- 834 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:26,481 YOU'RE NOT SENDING THE SCAMMER 835 00:22:26,481 --> 00:22:27,281 MONEY. 836 00:22:27,281 --> 00:22:28,483 THEY'RE HELPING YOU SET UP AND 837 00:22:28,483 --> 00:22:29,584 CONTROL YOUR OWN ACCOUNT. 838 00:22:29,584 --> 00:22:30,485 AND EVERYTHING SEEMS MORE 839 00:22:30,485 --> 00:22:32,720 LEGITIMATE WHEN THERE'S AN APP 840 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:33,754 INVOLVED. 841 00:22:33,754 --> 00:22:34,689 YOU DON'T THINK SO? 842 00:22:34,689 --> 00:22:35,556 WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU TOOK AN 843 00:22:35,556 --> 00:22:36,924 UBER? 844 00:22:36,924 --> 00:22:38,126 GET IN A NONDESCRIPT CAR WITH 845 00:22:38,126 --> 00:22:38,628 SOMEONE I'VE NEVER MET? 846 00:22:38,628 --> 00:22:39,227 I'D NEVER DO THAT! 847 00:22:39,227 --> 00:22:40,561 BUT WAIT-- WHAT'S THIS? 848 00:22:40,561 --> 00:22:41,662 I CAN DO IT FROM MY PHONE? 849 00:22:41,662 --> 00:22:42,597 IN THAT CASE, HERE IS MY 850 00:22:42,597 --> 00:22:43,831 ADDRESS, NOW YOU KNOW WHERE I 851 00:22:43,831 --> 00:22:44,432 LIVE AND THAT I WON'T BE HOME 852 00:22:44,432 --> 00:22:45,633 FOR THE EVENING. 853 00:22:45,633 --> 00:22:46,567 MY NAME IS JOHN, I DON'T KNOW 854 00:22:46,567 --> 00:22:47,668 YOUR LAST NAME BUT THAT DOESN'T 855 00:22:47,668 --> 00:22:49,036 MATTER, BECAUSE I'M ALSO NOT 856 00:22:49,036 --> 00:22:50,638 COMMITTING YOUR FACE TO MEMORY. 857 00:22:50,638 --> 00:22:51,239 EVERYTHING'S SAFE, THERE'S AN 858 00:22:51,239 --> 00:22:53,074 APP INVOLVED. 859 00:22:53,074 --> 00:22:53,674 AND THE FACT THE INVESTMENT IS 860 00:22:53,674 --> 00:22:55,009 OFTEN IN CRYPTO CAN BE 861 00:22:55,009 --> 00:22:57,178 PERSUASIVE FOR MULTIPLE REASONS: 862 00:22:57,178 --> 00:22:57,747 FIRST, WHO REALLY KNOWS HOW 863 00:22:57,747 --> 00:22:58,980 CRYPTO WORKS? 864 00:22:58,980 --> 00:22:59,516 I KNOW YOUR FRIEND'S WEIRD 865 00:22:59,516 --> 00:23:02,049 HUSBAND CLAIMS HE DOES, BUT HE 866 00:23:02,049 --> 00:23:02,650 SUCKS TO TALK TO, SO SADLY, IT 867 00:23:02,650 --> 00:23:03,918 MUST REMAIN A MYSTERY. 868 00:23:03,918 --> 00:23:05,653 BUT PEOPLE HAVE MADE MONEY ON 869 00:23:05,653 --> 00:23:07,188 CRYPTO, SO IT'S NOT UNREASONABLE 870 00:23:07,188 --> 00:23:09,157 TO THINK YOU MIGHT MEET ONE OF 871 00:23:09,157 --> 00:23:10,391 THEM AND THEY COULD GIVE YOU 872 00:23:10,391 --> 00:23:11,259 SOME TIPS. 873 00:23:11,259 --> 00:23:12,493 ON TOP OF WHICH, YOU MAY NOT BE 874 00:23:12,493 --> 00:23:14,228 SUPER-FAMILIAR WITH HOW A 875 00:23:14,228 --> 00:23:15,930 TRADING PLATFORM OPERATES OR 876 00:23:15,930 --> 00:23:17,999 EVEN WHAT ONE LOOKS LIKE. 877 00:23:17,999 --> 00:23:21,002 AND SCAMMERS HAVE CREATED 878 00:23:21,002 --> 00:23:22,470 INCREDIBLY PLAUSIBLE-LOOKING 879 00:23:22,470 --> 00:23:25,573 APPS. 880 00:23:25,573 --> 00:23:26,142 WE GOT THIS FOOTAGE OF ONE, 881 00:23:26,142 --> 00:23:27,408 WHICH SEEMS TO HAVE ALL THE 882 00:23:27,408 --> 00:23:28,476 DETAIL AND FUNCTIONALITY OF A 883 00:23:28,476 --> 00:23:29,644 REAL APP, AND I'LL BE HONEST, I 884 00:23:29,644 --> 00:23:31,145 COULD BE FOOLED BY THAT. 885 00:23:31,145 --> 00:23:32,647 ALSO, SOME SCAMMERS USE 886 00:23:32,647 --> 00:23:34,048 LEGITIMATE APPS THAT ALLOW 887 00:23:34,048 --> 00:23:35,483 ANYONE TO BUILD A TRADING 888 00:23:35,483 --> 00:23:36,918 EXCHANGE. 889 00:23:36,918 --> 00:23:37,552 THE PROBLEM IS, THERE ARE TOOLS 890 00:23:37,552 --> 00:23:38,719 SCAMMERS CAN USE TO SIMULATE 891 00:23:38,719 --> 00:23:40,121 FAKE RESULTS ON THOSE APPS, 892 00:23:40,121 --> 00:23:41,255 WHILE TAKING YOUR MONEY. 893 00:23:41,255 --> 00:23:42,824 WATCH THIS JOURNALIST EXPLAIN 894 00:23:42,824 --> 00:23:45,059 HOW THIS GAVE ONE VICTIM FALSE 895 00:23:45,059 --> 00:23:46,160 CONFIDENCE. 896 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:46,794 IN METATRADER, IT LOOKS JUST 897 00:23:46,794 --> 00:23:48,463 LIKE ANY KIND OF NORMAL TRADING 898 00:23:48,463 --> 00:23:52,033 INTERFACE THAT ONE WOULD USE. 899 00:23:52,033 --> 00:23:52,633 IT'S AVAILABLE IN THE GOOGLE 900 00:23:52,633 --> 00:23:53,901 PLAY STORE. 901 00:23:53,901 --> 00:23:54,702 IT'S AVAILABLE ON THE APPLE APP 902 00:23:54,702 --> 00:23:56,637 STORE. 903 00:23:56,637 --> 00:23:57,238 IT'S AN APP THAT HAS A LOT OF 904 00:23:57,238 --> 00:23:58,806 GOOD RATINGS, AND THAT WAS ONE 905 00:23:58,806 --> 00:24:00,007 OF THE THINGS THAT MADE CY THINK 906 00:24:00,007 --> 00:24:02,343 THAT THIS WHOLE OPERATION WAS 907 00:24:02,343 --> 00:24:02,645 LEGITIMATE. 908 00:24:02,645 --> 00:24:04,679 HE BELIEVED THAT HIS INVESTMENT 909 00:24:04,679 --> 00:24:06,247 WAS MAKING MONEY. 910 00:24:06,247 --> 00:24:07,014 IF YOU'RE TRADING ON A 911 00:24:07,014 --> 00:24:08,983 LEGITIMATE TRADING INTERFACE, 912 00:24:08,983 --> 00:24:10,084 RIGHT, YOU SEE THE PROFITS AND 913 00:24:10,084 --> 00:24:11,886 LOSSES OVER TIME. 914 00:24:11,886 --> 00:24:14,489 AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAW. 915 00:24:14,489 --> 00:24:14,858 John: RIGHT. 916 00:24:14,858 --> 00:24:17,158 IF YOUR FRIEND TOLD YOU TO 917 00:24:17,158 --> 00:24:17,792 DOWNLOAD AN APP, AND YOU SAW IT 918 00:24:17,792 --> 00:24:18,759 IN THE APP STORE WITH GOOD 919 00:24:18,759 --> 00:24:20,761 REVIEWS, YOU MIGHT ASSUME 920 00:24:20,761 --> 00:24:22,363 EVERYTHING ON IT WAS LEGITIMATE, 921 00:24:22,363 --> 00:24:23,030 EVEN BEFORE YOU SAW METATRADER'S 922 00:24:23,030 --> 00:24:24,699 LOGO, WHICH LOOKS LIKE THREE MEN 923 00:24:24,699 --> 00:24:26,534 IN SUITS JERKING EACH OTHER OFF 924 00:24:26,534 --> 00:24:27,301 UNDER A TABLE. 925 00:24:27,301 --> 00:24:28,669 AN APPROPRIATE METAPHOR FOR 926 00:24:28,669 --> 00:24:31,139 CRYPTOCURRENCY IF I'VE EVER SEEN 927 00:24:31,139 --> 00:24:33,307 ONE. 928 00:24:33,307 --> 00:24:34,142 SOME SCAMMERS EVEN SET UP 929 00:24:34,142 --> 00:24:35,009 ADDITIONAL FEATURES LIKE 930 00:24:35,009 --> 00:24:37,311 TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION OR 931 00:24:37,311 --> 00:24:39,647 CUSTOMER-SERVICE LINES. 932 00:24:39,647 --> 00:24:41,516 THIS WOMAN TRIED HER BEST TO DO 933 00:24:41,516 --> 00:24:43,151 DUE DILIGENCE ON THE SITE SHE 934 00:24:43,151 --> 00:24:43,653 WAS SENT, AND CAME AWAY 935 00:24:43,653 --> 00:24:45,119 CONVINCED IT WAS REAL. 936 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:45,720 THERE WAS A LEGAL SECRETARY 937 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,989 INVOLVED IN ANOTHER STATE, 938 00:24:47,989 --> 00:24:49,757 VOUCHING ASSOCIATION WITH A LAW 939 00:24:49,757 --> 00:24:51,125 FIRM WHERE IT WAS SENDING MONEY 940 00:24:51,125 --> 00:24:52,126 TO. 941 00:24:52,126 --> 00:24:53,394 SHE'S REAL. 942 00:24:53,394 --> 00:24:53,995 I COULD VERIFY HER, SO IT WAS 943 00:24:53,995 --> 00:24:58,132 VERY COMPLEX AND WELL-REHEARSED. 944 00:24:58,132 --> 00:24:58,966 John: RIGHT. 945 00:24:58,966 --> 00:25:00,668 SHE SPOKE WITH A LEGAL SECRETARY 946 00:25:00,668 --> 00:25:01,769 AND A LAW FIRM BEFORE SENDING 947 00:25:01,769 --> 00:25:02,737 MONEY. 948 00:25:02,737 --> 00:25:05,173 AND THAT'S MORE VETTING THAN 949 00:25:05,173 --> 00:25:05,807 I'VE DONE FOR MY KIDS' DAYCARE. 950 00:25:05,807 --> 00:25:06,908 I LOVE THEM, AND THEY'RE VERY 951 00:25:06,908 --> 00:25:08,142 PRECIOUS TO ME, BUT THEY'RE ALSO 952 00:25:08,142 --> 00:25:09,510 LOUD, STICKY, AND ONE OF THEM'S 953 00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:10,478 JUST GETTING STRONGER AND 954 00:25:10,478 --> 00:25:12,079 STRONGER EVERY DAY, SO IF YOU 955 00:25:12,079 --> 00:25:13,881 HAVE A BUILDING WITH WALLS AND A 956 00:25:13,881 --> 00:25:14,982 PHONE NUMBER I CAN CALL, I TRUST 957 00:25:14,982 --> 00:25:18,519 YOU, TAKE THEM FOR THE 958 00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:18,788 AFTERNOON. 959 00:25:18,788 --> 00:25:19,289 AND AT THIS POINT OF THE 960 00:25:19,289 --> 00:25:21,255 PROCESS, THINGS MIGHT LOOK 961 00:25:21,255 --> 00:25:22,223 PRETTY GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE 962 00:25:22,223 --> 00:25:22,990 GETTING SCAMMED. 963 00:25:22,990 --> 00:25:23,925 YOU'VE SENT A BIT OF MONEY TO A 964 00:25:23,925 --> 00:25:26,027 LEGITIMATE-LOOKING SITE, THROUGH 965 00:25:26,027 --> 00:25:26,761 AN ACCOUNT YOU CONTROL. 966 00:25:26,761 --> 00:25:27,662 AND YOUR NEW FRIEND'S TRADING 967 00:25:27,662 --> 00:25:29,530 TIPS SEEM TO BE WORKING, SO 968 00:25:29,530 --> 00:25:31,933 MAYBE YOU SEND A LITTLE MORE. 969 00:25:31,933 --> 00:25:32,533 PRETTY SOON, YOU MIGHT HAVE A 970 00:25:32,533 --> 00:25:34,302 FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY TIED UP ON 971 00:25:34,302 --> 00:25:35,503 THIS TRADING PLATFORM. 972 00:25:35,503 --> 00:25:37,305 BUT WHEN YOU EVENTUALLY GO TO 973 00:25:37,305 --> 00:25:38,339 WITHDRAW IT, THAT'S WHERE WE HIT 974 00:25:38,339 --> 00:25:41,142 THE FINAL STEP OF THIS PROCESS. 975 00:25:41,142 --> 00:25:41,711 REMEMBER THAT WOMAN YOU SAW 976 00:25:41,711 --> 00:25:45,213 EARLIER, WHOSE ONLINE FRIEND 977 00:25:45,213 --> 00:25:45,813 CLAIMED HE WAS FROM THE TOWN 978 00:25:45,813 --> 00:25:47,448 WHERE SHE WAS BORN? 979 00:25:47,448 --> 00:25:49,350 WELL, SHE'D CONVINCED HER DAD TO 980 00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:49,719 INVEST AS WELL. 981 00:25:49,719 --> 00:25:50,384 THEY'D SEEMINGLY MADE A BUNCH OF 982 00:25:50,384 --> 00:25:52,320 MONEY, AND THEN THIS HAPPENED. 983 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,621 BY DECEMBER, THEIR ACCOUNTS 984 00:25:53,621 --> 00:25:55,156 SHOWED A COMBINED BALANCE OF 985 00:25:55,156 --> 00:25:58,960 $1.2 MILLION, AND HUTCHINSON 986 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,962 DECIDED IT WAS TIME TO CASH OUT. 987 00:26:00,962 --> 00:26:02,763 THAT'S WHEN THE SITE TOLD HER, 988 00:26:02,763 --> 00:26:05,066 BEFORE SHE COULD WITHDRAW HER 989 00:26:05,066 --> 00:26:05,700 MONEY, SHE'D HAVE TO PAY A HEFTY 990 00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:09,804 TAX BILL OF ROUGHLY $380,000. 991 00:26:09,804 --> 00:26:10,340 THAT'S WHEN I WAS LIKE 992 00:26:10,340 --> 00:26:12,340 "SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT." 993 00:26:12,340 --> 00:26:14,041 IT WASN'T. 994 00:26:14,041 --> 00:26:15,009 THE CRYPTOCURRENCY INVESTMENTS 995 00:26:15,009 --> 00:26:17,145 WEREN'T REAL. 996 00:26:17,145 --> 00:26:18,146 ALL HER AND HER FATHER'S FUNDS 997 00:26:18,146 --> 00:26:22,483 HAD GONE INTO THE SCAMMER'S 998 00:26:22,483 --> 00:26:22,719 POCKETS. 999 00:26:22,719 --> 00:26:28,055 IN ALL, $390,000 STOLEN. 1000 00:26:28,055 --> 00:26:28,656 I MESSED UP MY LIFE. 1001 00:26:28,656 --> 00:26:31,159 I MESSED UP MY DAD'S LIFE 1002 00:26:31,159 --> 00:26:32,026 SHE TOLD ME THAT IT WAS ALL A 1003 00:26:32,026 --> 00:26:34,328 SCAM. 1004 00:26:34,328 --> 00:26:36,097 HUTCHINSON'S FATHER, MELVIN. 1005 00:26:36,097 --> 00:26:37,799 AND ALL I COULD DO WAS JUST 1006 00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:38,533 HUG HER AND TELL HER "IT'S OKAY. 1007 00:26:38,533 --> 00:26:40,434 IT'S OKAY." 1008 00:26:40,434 --> 00:26:42,437 IT WAS HARD. 1009 00:26:42,437 --> 00:26:43,504 IT WAS HARD, 'CAUSE WE LOST 1010 00:26:43,504 --> 00:26:45,973 EVERYTHING. 1011 00:26:45,973 --> 00:26:46,607 John: YEAH-- THEIR MONEY HAD 1012 00:26:46,607 --> 00:26:48,109 ALREADY GONE, AND THAT "TAX 1013 00:26:48,109 --> 00:26:50,077 BILL" WAS JUST AN ATTEMPT TO 1014 00:26:50,077 --> 00:26:51,512 SQUEEZE THEM ONE LAST TIME. 1015 00:26:51,512 --> 00:26:53,181 AND THEIRS ISN'T THE ONLY BRUTAL 1016 00:26:53,181 --> 00:26:53,483 STORY HERE. 1017 00:26:53,483 --> 00:26:55,416 THIS WOMAN LOST $350,000. 1018 00:26:55,416 --> 00:26:58,085 THIS GUY LOST $300,000. 1019 00:26:58,085 --> 00:26:58,655 AND THAT WOMAN WHO FELL FOR 1020 00:26:58,655 --> 00:27:01,756 "JIMMY" SENT HIM $2.5 MILLION, 1021 00:27:01,756 --> 00:27:02,890 AS SHE WAS DEALING WITH TERMINAL 1022 00:27:02,890 --> 00:27:05,059 CANCER. 1023 00:27:05,059 --> 00:27:07,728 IT'S TRAUMATIC AND HUMILIATING. 1024 00:27:07,728 --> 00:27:08,763 IT TOOK COURAGE FOR THOSE PEOPLE 1025 00:27:08,763 --> 00:27:11,032 TO COME FORWARD. 1026 00:27:11,032 --> 00:27:11,933 AND THAT'S PARTLY WHY EXPERTS 1027 00:27:11,933 --> 00:27:13,634 THINK THE $3 BILLION FIGURE WE 1028 00:27:13,634 --> 00:27:14,969 HAVE IS WAY TOO LOW: BECAUSE 1029 00:27:14,969 --> 00:27:17,171 MOST PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN SCAMMED 1030 00:27:17,171 --> 00:27:17,772 LIKE THIS SIMPLY DON'T REPORT 1031 00:27:17,772 --> 00:27:18,372 THEIR LOSSES OUT OF 1032 00:27:18,372 --> 00:27:19,740 EMBARRASSMENT. 1033 00:27:19,740 --> 00:27:21,442 AND AT THIS POINT, YOU'RE 1034 00:27:21,442 --> 00:27:22,076 PROBABLY FURIOUS WITH THE PEOPLE 1035 00:27:22,076 --> 00:27:23,511 ON THE OTHER END OF ALL THESE 1036 00:27:23,511 --> 00:27:25,413 MESSAGES, AND WANT TO SEE THEM 1037 00:27:25,413 --> 00:27:26,013 TAKEN DOWN-- OR, AT THE VERY 1038 00:27:26,013 --> 00:27:26,981 LEAST, FUCKED WITH. 1039 00:27:26,981 --> 00:27:29,450 AND THAT HAPPENS A LOT. 1040 00:27:29,450 --> 00:27:31,085 PEOPLE POST SCREENGRABS MESSING 1041 00:27:31,085 --> 00:27:33,254 WITH SCAMMERS ALL THE TIME, LIKE 1042 00:27:33,254 --> 00:27:33,888 IN THIS EXCHANGE, WHERE SOMEONE 1043 00:27:33,888 --> 00:27:35,957 REPLIES TO A "WRONG NUMBER" TEXT 1044 00:27:35,957 --> 00:27:39,663 WITH "MY NAME IS INIGO 1045 00:27:42,632 --> 00:27:43,364 WITH "MY NAME IS INIGO MONTOYA" 1046 00:27:43,364 --> 00:27:44,999 AND "YOU DON'T BY ANY CHANCE 1047 00:27:44,999 --> 00:27:46,300 HAVE SIX FINGERS ON YOUR RIGHT 1048 00:27:46,300 --> 00:27:47,335 HAND, DO YOU?" 1049 00:27:47,335 --> 00:27:48,202 OR THIS ONE, WHERE A SCAMMER 1050 00:27:48,202 --> 00:27:49,403 WRITES "I'M SARAH, NICE TO MEET 1051 00:27:49,403 --> 00:27:50,838 YOU" WITH A PICTURE, AND GETS 1052 00:27:50,838 --> 00:27:52,740 THE REPLY "WEE WOO WEE WOO. 1053 00:27:52,740 --> 00:27:54,842 BONER ALERT." 1054 00:27:54,842 --> 00:27:56,244 AND LOOK: THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE 1055 00:27:56,244 --> 00:27:57,612 THE RIGHT SOUND. 1056 00:27:57,612 --> 00:27:58,579 I WOULD'VE GONE WITH "A-WOO-GA, 1057 00:27:58,579 --> 00:27:59,213 A-WOO-GA. 1058 00:27:59,213 --> 00:28:04,418 BONER ALERT." 1059 00:28:04,418 --> 00:28:05,219 BUT, REASONABLE PEOPLE CAN 1060 00:28:05,219 --> 00:28:06,020 DISAGREE. 1061 00:28:06,020 --> 00:28:07,388 ALL BODIES ARE DIFFERENT. 1062 00:28:07,388 --> 00:28:09,056 THERE'S NO ONE RIGHT SOUND FOR A 1063 00:28:09,056 --> 00:28:10,291 BONER ALERT. 1064 00:28:10,291 --> 00:28:11,726 BUT HERE'S THE THING: AS 1065 00:28:11,726 --> 00:28:13,594 CATHARTIC AS THAT MIGHT BE, THE 1066 00:28:13,594 --> 00:28:14,595 PERSON ON THE OTHER END OF THAT 1067 00:28:14,595 --> 00:28:15,463 PHONE MIGHT NOT BE THE ONE YOU 1068 00:28:15,463 --> 00:28:16,731 SHOULD BE MAD AT. 1069 00:28:16,731 --> 00:28:17,565 BECAUSE REMEMBER WHEN I SAID 1070 00:28:17,565 --> 00:28:18,599 THIS WAS BEING DONE IN FORMER 1071 00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:19,700 CASINOS BY ORGANIZED CRIME 1072 00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:20,968 SYNDICATES? 1073 00:28:20,968 --> 00:28:22,403 TURNS OUT, THEY'RE NOT GREAT 1074 00:28:22,403 --> 00:28:23,337 BOSSES. 1075 00:28:23,337 --> 00:28:24,505 THIS COMPOUND IS WHERE AN 1076 00:28:24,505 --> 00:28:25,473 INDIAN MAN NAMED RAKESH SAYS HE 1077 00:28:25,473 --> 00:28:26,441 WAS FORCED TO WORK FOR MORE THAN 1078 00:28:26,441 --> 00:28:27,775 11 MONTHS WITHOUT PAY FOR A 1079 00:28:27,775 --> 00:28:30,678 CHINESE CRIMINAL GANG. 1080 00:28:30,678 --> 00:28:31,312 RAKESH, WHO DOESN'T WANT TO BE 1081 00:28:31,312 --> 00:28:32,513 IDENTIFIED, SAYS HE FIRST FLEW 1082 00:28:32,513 --> 00:28:33,614 TO THAILAND FOR WHAT HE THOUGHT 1083 00:28:33,614 --> 00:28:35,249 WAS AN IT JOB. 1084 00:28:35,249 --> 00:28:37,452 INSTEAD, HE SAYS HE WAS TRICKED 1085 00:28:37,452 --> 00:28:38,786 INTO CROSSING THE BORDER TO 1086 00:28:38,786 --> 00:28:41,222 MYANMAR WHERE A CHINESE GANGSTER 1087 00:28:41,222 --> 00:28:43,891 TOLD HIM TO WORK, OR ELSE. 1088 00:28:43,891 --> 00:28:44,959 HE THREATENED TO KILL YOU. 1089 00:28:44,959 --> 00:28:45,793 YEAH. 1090 00:28:45,793 --> 00:28:47,428 HE WARNED ME LIKE THAT. 1091 00:28:47,428 --> 00:28:48,863 AND THE JOB? 1092 00:28:48,863 --> 00:28:49,464 SPEND 16 HOURS A DAY ON SOCIAL 1093 00:28:49,464 --> 00:28:51,332 MEDIA TARGETING AMERICANS WITH A 1094 00:28:51,332 --> 00:28:53,768 FAKE PROFILE. 1095 00:28:53,768 --> 00:28:55,403 John: THAT'S AWFUL. 1096 00:28:55,403 --> 00:28:57,004 NO ONE SHOULD BE FORCED TO SPEND 1097 00:28:57,004 --> 00:28:59,874 16 HOURS A DAY ON SOCIAL MEDIA. 1098 00:28:59,874 --> 00:29:02,310 YOU SHOULD DO IT EITHER BECAUSE 1099 00:29:02,310 --> 00:29:02,910 YOU LOVE IT, OR BECAUSE YOU'RE 1100 00:29:02,910 --> 00:29:04,278 15-YEARS-OLD AND THE ALGORITHM 1101 00:29:04,278 --> 00:29:05,813 HAS ADDICTED YOU TO IT. 1102 00:29:05,813 --> 00:29:07,014 YOU KNOW. 1103 00:29:07,014 --> 00:29:09,684 COMPLETELY NORMAL REASONS. 1104 00:29:09,684 --> 00:29:10,318 A LOT OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE 1105 00:29:10,318 --> 00:29:11,853 USING PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN HUMAN 1106 00:29:11,853 --> 00:29:13,855 TRAFFICKED, AFTER BEING LURED TO 1107 00:29:13,855 --> 00:29:14,390 THE COMPOUNDS UNDER FALSE 1108 00:29:14,390 --> 00:29:15,656 PRETENSES. 1109 00:29:15,656 --> 00:29:17,492 THEY'RE ACTUALLY THE VICTIMS OF 1110 00:29:17,492 --> 00:29:18,493 A SCAM THEMSELVES. 1111 00:29:18,493 --> 00:29:19,560 BASICALLY, THEY MIGHT SEE JOB 1112 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,295 ADS FOR SKILLED POSITIONS AS 1113 00:29:21,295 --> 00:29:22,597 TRANSLATORS, OR IT SPECIALISTS, 1114 00:29:22,597 --> 00:29:24,565 IN ANOTHER COUNTRY. 1115 00:29:24,565 --> 00:29:25,633 THEY THEN GO THROUGH A WHOLE 1116 00:29:25,633 --> 00:29:27,068 APPLICATION PROCESS-- WITH SOME 1117 00:29:27,068 --> 00:29:28,703 GOING THROUGH UP TO FOUR 1118 00:29:28,703 --> 00:29:29,837 SEEMINGLY LEGITIMATE ONLINE 1119 00:29:29,837 --> 00:29:30,638 INTERVIEWS-- AND FLY TO THEIR 1120 00:29:30,638 --> 00:29:32,440 NEW JOB. 1121 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,976 AT WHICH POINT, THEY SUDDENLY 1122 00:29:34,976 --> 00:29:36,077 LEARN THEIR NEW BOSSES HAVE 1123 00:29:36,077 --> 00:29:38,980 THEIR DOCUMENTS AND THEY NOW 1124 00:29:38,980 --> 00:29:40,248 CAN'T LEAVE. 1125 00:29:40,248 --> 00:29:41,582 BACK IN 2022, PROPUBLICA 1126 00:29:41,582 --> 00:29:42,784 ESTIMATED THAT TENS OF THOUSANDS 1127 00:29:42,784 --> 00:29:43,985 OF PEOPLE HAD BEEN TRICKED IN 1128 00:29:43,985 --> 00:29:46,521 THIS WAY. 1129 00:29:46,521 --> 00:29:47,789 AND A MORE RECENT UN REPORT 1130 00:29:47,789 --> 00:29:49,457 ESTIMATED THAT HUNDREDS OF 1131 00:29:49,457 --> 00:29:50,057 THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN 1132 00:29:50,057 --> 00:29:52,093 FORCIBLY ENGAGED IN THIS SCHEME. 1133 00:29:52,093 --> 00:29:53,060 THEY ALSO SAY "MOST VICTIMS ARE 1134 00:29:53,060 --> 00:29:54,862 CONFINED TO THE SCAM COMPOUND," 1135 00:29:54,862 --> 00:29:57,231 AND THEIR SCREENS ARE ALWAYS 1136 00:29:57,231 --> 00:29:57,865 MONITORED BY THE MEMBERS OF THE 1137 00:29:57,865 --> 00:29:58,766 ORGANIZED CRIME GROUP. 1138 00:29:58,766 --> 00:29:59,500 AND ONCE THEY'RE IN, THEY'RE 1139 00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:01,936 PROVIDED FAKE PROFILES TO TRY 1140 00:30:01,936 --> 00:30:03,004 AND HOOK PEOPLE IN WITH. 1141 00:30:03,004 --> 00:30:06,207 HERE'S WHO RAKESH FOUND HIMSELF 1142 00:30:06,207 --> 00:30:06,576 BEING ALL DAY. 1143 00:30:06,576 --> 00:30:08,342 I GOT A RUSSIAN GIRL. 1144 00:30:08,342 --> 00:30:10,912 WITH USING A RUSSIAN GIRL FAKE 1145 00:30:10,912 --> 00:30:12,547 PROFILE, I NEED TO SCAM PEOPLE. 1146 00:30:12,547 --> 00:30:14,749 POSING AS A SALT LAKE 1147 00:30:14,749 --> 00:30:15,383 CITY-BASED INVESTOR NAMED CLARA 1148 00:30:15,383 --> 00:30:17,251 SIMONOV, RAKESH FLIRTED ONLINE 1149 00:30:17,251 --> 00:30:21,589 WITH POTENTIAL TARGETS. 1150 00:30:21,589 --> 00:30:23,724 70-80% FALL FOR FAKE LOVE. 1151 00:30:23,724 --> 00:30:24,459 John: YEAH, RAKESH WAS KLARA 1152 00:30:24,459 --> 00:30:25,993 SEMONOV FROM SALT LAKE CITY. 1153 00:30:25,993 --> 00:30:28,496 SO, BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER: 1154 00:30:28,496 --> 00:30:29,130 ANYONE WHO THINKS THEY'RE DATING 1155 00:30:29,130 --> 00:30:32,533 KLARA-- I'M AFRAID YOU'RE NOT. 1156 00:30:32,533 --> 00:30:35,069 THE RELATIONSHIP IS OVER. 1157 00:30:35,069 --> 00:30:35,703 IT'S NOT YOU, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT 1158 00:30:35,703 --> 00:30:36,304 HER. 1159 00:30:36,304 --> 00:30:38,239 IT'S RAKESH. 1160 00:30:38,239 --> 00:30:39,474 BUT ALSO, IT ISN'T HIM. 1161 00:30:39,474 --> 00:30:41,242 IT'S RAKESH'S BOSS, WHO WON'T 1162 00:30:41,242 --> 00:30:42,310 LET HIM LEAVE. 1163 00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:43,478 THE WHOLE OPERATION IS HIGHLY 1164 00:30:43,478 --> 00:30:45,046 ORGANIZED, AND SET UP TO GET 1165 00:30:45,046 --> 00:30:47,348 AROUND THE USUAL WAYS YOU MIGHT 1166 00:30:47,348 --> 00:30:49,350 DETECT A SCAM. 1167 00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:49,984 FOR INSTANCE, SOME ORGANIZATIONS 1168 00:30:49,984 --> 00:30:51,119 GENERATE THEIR OWN PHOTOS FOR 1169 00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:53,354 THE PROFILES, SO THEY CAN'T BE 1170 00:30:53,354 --> 00:30:55,389 REVERSE-IMAGE-SEARCHED. 1171 00:30:55,389 --> 00:30:56,023 AND EMPLOYEES ARE GIVEN MANUALS 1172 00:30:56,023 --> 00:30:58,059 LIKE THESE THAT GUIDE THEM 1173 00:30:58,059 --> 00:30:58,595 THROUGH EVERY STEP OF THE 1174 00:30:58,595 --> 00:30:59,627 PROCESS. 1175 00:30:59,627 --> 00:31:00,361 THEY'RE TOLD TO TARGET PEOPLE 1176 00:31:00,361 --> 00:31:03,030 WHO LOOK WEALTHY AND SUCCESSFUL. 1177 00:31:03,030 --> 00:31:05,700 ONE ADVISES: ON THE FIRST DAY, 1178 00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:06,269 TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE YOUR 1179 00:31:06,269 --> 00:31:07,268 NAME, AGE, OCCUPATION AND 1180 00:31:07,268 --> 00:31:08,870 HOBBIES. 1181 00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:10,538 THEN, THE NEXT DAY, TALK ABOUT 1182 00:31:10,538 --> 00:31:12,206 YOUR EMOTIONAL EXPERIENCE, WITH 1183 00:31:12,206 --> 00:31:14,175 A MESSAGE DIVIDED INTO TWO 1184 00:31:14,175 --> 00:31:15,443 PARAGRAPHS. 1185 00:31:15,443 --> 00:31:16,544 AND THEN, ON THE THIRD DAY, TALK 1186 00:31:16,544 --> 00:31:17,645 ABOUT YOUR ENTREPRENEURIAL 1187 00:31:17,645 --> 00:31:19,747 EXPERIENCE. 1188 00:31:19,747 --> 00:31:20,348 THEY'RE EVEN GIVEN TIPS ON HOW 1189 00:31:20,348 --> 00:31:22,216 TO BREAK DOWN PEOPLE'S DEFENSES. 1190 00:31:22,216 --> 00:31:22,850 WE REVIEWED SEVERAL OF THESE 1191 00:31:22,850 --> 00:31:24,485 MANUALS AND THEY CAREFULLY 1192 00:31:24,485 --> 00:31:25,620 EXPLAIN HOW TO BUILD TRUST AND 1193 00:31:25,620 --> 00:31:29,056 EXPLOIT WEAKNESSES IN THEIR 1194 00:31:29,056 --> 00:31:29,626 SO-CALLED CLIENT, SUCH AS-- 1195 00:31:29,626 --> 00:31:33,427 BE FUNNY, MAKE CLIENTS FALL 1196 00:31:33,427 --> 00:31:34,629 IN LOVE WITH YOU SO DEEPLY THAT 1197 00:31:34,629 --> 00:31:36,397 THEY FORGET EVERYTHING. 1198 00:31:36,397 --> 00:31:38,065 John: THE CHILLING THING IS, 1199 00:31:38,065 --> 00:31:38,601 THAT'S KIND OF TRUE. 1200 00:31:38,601 --> 00:31:39,567 IF YOU'RE FUNNY ENOUGH, YOU CAN 1201 00:31:39,567 --> 00:31:40,568 MAKE PEOPLE FORGET A LOT OF 1202 00:31:40,568 --> 00:31:42,136 THINGS, WHETHER IT'S COMMONSENSE 1203 00:31:42,136 --> 00:31:43,438 INTERNET SAFEGUARDS, LESSONS 1204 00:31:43,438 --> 00:31:46,040 FROM PREVIOUS RELATIONSHIPS, OR 1205 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,208 THAT THEY'VE BEEN ACCIDENTALLY 1206 00:31:47,208 --> 00:31:48,709 LEARNING ABOUT FINANCIAL FRAUD 1207 00:31:48,709 --> 00:31:50,178 AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING FOR THE 1208 00:31:50,178 --> 00:31:53,781 LAST TWENTY MINUTES. 1209 00:31:53,781 --> 00:31:56,451 WE ARE HAVING FUN, AREN'T WE? 1210 00:31:56,451 --> 00:31:58,019 AND IF YOU'RE THINKING "WHY 1211 00:31:58,019 --> 00:31:58,853 DON'T AUTHORITIES SHUT THESE 1212 00:31:58,853 --> 00:31:59,754 COMPOUNDS DOWN?" 1213 00:31:59,754 --> 00:32:01,622 SOMETIMES, THEY'RE IN ON IT. 1214 00:32:01,622 --> 00:32:02,423 HERE'S ONE MAN WHO WAS 1215 00:32:02,423 --> 00:32:03,558 TRAFFICKED TO A SCAM CENTER IN 1216 00:32:03,558 --> 00:32:04,725 CAMBODIA, EXPLAINING WHAT 1217 00:32:04,725 --> 00:32:05,960 HAPPENED WHEN HE DID THE OBVIOUS 1218 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:06,594 THING. 1219 00:32:06,594 --> 00:32:07,428 ON HIS SECOND DAY IN 1220 00:32:07,428 --> 00:32:10,264 CAPTIVITY, LU EMAILED THE 1221 00:32:10,264 --> 00:32:10,633 CHINESE EMBASSY. 1222 00:32:10,633 --> 00:32:11,466 HE WAS ADVISED TO CALL THE 1223 00:32:11,466 --> 00:32:12,700 SIHANOUKVILLE POLICE. 1224 00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:14,836 BUT THE POLICE NEVER CAME. 1225 00:32:14,836 --> 00:32:16,137 THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT CAME 1226 00:32:16,137 --> 00:32:17,138 INSTEAD. 1227 00:32:17,138 --> 00:32:17,872 THEY KNEW THAT I'D CALLED THE 1228 00:32:17,872 --> 00:32:20,942 POLICE. 1229 00:32:20,942 --> 00:32:23,644 LU SAYS THE MANAGERS THEN 1230 00:32:23,644 --> 00:32:24,879 SOLD HIM TO ANOTHER SCAMMING 1231 00:32:24,879 --> 00:32:31,948 COMPANY. 1232 00:32:33,356 --> 00:32:33,921 HE SAID BECAUSE I CALLED THE 1233 00:32:33,921 --> 00:32:35,223 POLICE, THEY HAD TO "TAKE CARE" 1234 00:32:35,223 --> 00:32:35,792 OF THE POLICE WITH AT LEAST 1235 00:32:35,792 --> 00:32:37,992 $4,000, AND I HAD TO PAY FOR 1236 00:32:37,992 --> 00:32:38,261 THAT TOO. 1237 00:32:38,261 --> 00:32:39,127 John: YEAH, THE AUTHORITIES 1238 00:32:39,127 --> 00:32:40,194 WEREN'T GOING TO HELP HIM. 1239 00:32:40,194 --> 00:32:41,229 WHICH ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE WHEN 1240 00:32:41,229 --> 00:32:42,497 YOU LEARN THAT, ACCORDING TO UN 1241 00:32:42,497 --> 00:32:43,698 ESTIMATES, PIG BUTCHERING IN 1242 00:32:43,698 --> 00:32:45,032 CAMBODIA BRINGS IN AN AMOUNT 1243 00:32:45,032 --> 00:32:45,700 EQUIVALENT TO HALF THE COUNTRY'S 1244 00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:46,734 GDP. 1245 00:32:46,734 --> 00:32:48,336 WHICH IS WORRISOME, BECAUSE AS 1246 00:32:48,336 --> 00:32:50,171 EVERYONE KNOWS WHEN SOMETHING 1247 00:32:50,171 --> 00:32:50,938 GENERATES THAT MUCH MONEY, YOU 1248 00:32:50,938 --> 00:32:53,274 DON'T SHUT IT DOWN, YOU SPIN IT 1249 00:32:53,274 --> 00:32:53,875 OFF AND PRAY THE MAGIC WORKS A 1250 00:32:53,875 --> 00:32:58,179 SECOND TIME. 1251 00:32:58,179 --> 00:32:59,583 , ON! 1252 00:33:00,817 --> 00:33:01,582 AND CONDITIONS IN THESE 1253 00:33:01,582 --> 00:33:06,154 COMPOUNDS CAN BE BRUTAL. 1254 00:33:06,154 --> 00:33:06,689 THAT MAN YOU SAW EARLIER, 1255 00:33:06,689 --> 00:33:08,389 RAKESH, TOOK PHOTOS OF ABUSE 1256 00:33:08,389 --> 00:33:09,290 LIKE THIS ONE, OF A COWORKER 1257 00:33:09,290 --> 00:33:10,391 WHO'D BEEN BEATEN. 1258 00:33:10,391 --> 00:33:11,025 AND LU, WHO MANAGED TO GET OUT, 1259 00:33:11,025 --> 00:33:12,160 NOW WORKS TO FREE OTHERS-- AND 1260 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,594 THE STORIES OF WHAT HE'S SEEN 1261 00:33:13,594 --> 00:33:14,762 ARE, FAIR WARNING, HARD TO 1262 00:33:14,762 --> 00:33:15,596 WATCH. 1263 00:33:15,596 --> 00:33:16,297 I SAW A MAN GET BEATEN UP 1264 00:33:16,297 --> 00:33:17,765 VERY BADLY. 1265 00:33:17,765 --> 00:33:19,133 HE HAD INJURIES ALL OVER HIS 1266 00:33:19,133 --> 00:33:20,401 BODY. 1267 00:33:20,401 --> 00:33:22,236 LU CONTENDS IT WAS THIS MAN, 1268 00:33:22,236 --> 00:33:22,870 WHO WAS REPORTEDLY FOUND HANGING 1269 00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:24,505 JUST HOURS LATER. 1270 00:33:24,505 --> 00:33:26,574 I'M CERTAIN IT WAS HIM. 1271 00:33:26,574 --> 00:33:28,209 HIS PHONE IS FULL OF MESSAGES 1272 00:33:28,209 --> 00:33:29,744 FROM CHINESE CITIZENS DESPERATE 1273 00:33:29,744 --> 00:33:32,113 TO BE FREE FROM SCAM COMPANIES. 1274 00:33:32,113 --> 00:33:34,615 THERE'S VIDEOS OF ABUSE. 1275 00:33:34,615 --> 00:33:36,417 LU SAYS HE RECEIVES THEM 1276 00:33:36,417 --> 00:33:38,519 DIRECTLY FROM VICTIMS INSIDE THE 1277 00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:40,087 SCAM INDUSTRY, OR FINDS THEM 1278 00:33:40,087 --> 00:33:41,389 POSTED IN SOCIAL MEDIA GROUP 1279 00:33:41,389 --> 00:33:43,090 CHATS. 1280 00:33:43,090 --> 00:33:48,863 "HE'S GOT HANDCUFFS." 1281 00:33:48,863 --> 00:33:50,264 THEY'RE SHOCKING. 1282 00:33:50,264 --> 00:33:51,866 John: THAT'S HORRIFYING. 1283 00:33:51,866 --> 00:33:52,767 AND WHEN YOU KNOW ALL THIS, IT 1284 00:33:52,767 --> 00:33:54,969 KIND OF STARTS TO CHANGE WHO 1285 00:33:54,969 --> 00:33:58,306 EXACTLY YOU'RE MAD AT HERE. 1286 00:33:58,306 --> 00:33:58,775 BECAUSE SUDDENLY, THE 1287 00:33:58,775 --> 00:34:00,308 INDIVIDUALS ON THE OTHER END OF 1288 00:34:00,308 --> 00:34:01,175 THE PHONE DON'T SEEM QUITE SO 1289 00:34:01,175 --> 00:34:02,743 FUN TO SEND A MESSAGE OF "WEE 1290 00:34:02,743 --> 00:34:04,679 WOO WEE WOO, BONER ALERT" TO. 1291 00:34:04,679 --> 00:34:05,279 NOT THAT IT ISN'T AN EXCELLENT 1292 00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:06,347 TEXT. 1293 00:34:06,347 --> 00:34:08,382 WHO DOESN'T LOVE A BONER ALERT? 1294 00:34:08,382 --> 00:34:09,016 BUT THERE'S A TIME AND A PLACE, 1295 00:34:09,016 --> 00:34:10,918 AND THIS MIGHT NOT BE IT. 1296 00:34:10,918 --> 00:34:11,552 ALSO, FROM NOW ON, WHENEVER YOU 1297 00:34:11,552 --> 00:34:12,820 GET A SEXY TEXT FROM A NEW 1298 00:34:12,820 --> 00:34:14,021 STRANGER, GOOD LUCK NOT 1299 00:34:14,021 --> 00:34:14,889 THINKING, "IS THIS A MAN WHO WAS 1300 00:34:14,889 --> 00:34:16,858 JUST BEATEN IN A WORK CAMP IN 1301 00:34:16,858 --> 00:34:17,127 MYANMAR?" 1302 00:34:17,127 --> 00:34:17,725 AND THAT, IF ANYTHING, IS THE 1303 00:34:17,725 --> 00:34:19,260 JOHN OLIVER EFFECT. 1304 00:34:19,260 --> 00:34:25,066 YOU'RE WELCOME. 1305 00:34:25,066 --> 00:34:25,635 [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] 1306 00:34:25,635 --> 00:34:26,868 AND LOOK: I CAN'T SAY THAT EVERY 1307 00:34:26,868 --> 00:34:27,635 SCAMMER IS SOMEONE WHO WAS 1308 00:34:27,635 --> 00:34:29,270 KIDNAPPED, TORTURED AND FORCED 1309 00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:30,004 TO DO IT. 1310 00:34:30,004 --> 00:34:30,605 BUT EVEN IF NOT EVERYONE WHO'S 1311 00:34:30,605 --> 00:34:31,806 DOING THIS IS TRAPPED OR 1312 00:34:31,806 --> 00:34:32,740 COERCED, THE FACT THAT MANY ARE, 1313 00:34:32,740 --> 00:34:34,208 IS STILL A HUGE PROBLEM. 1314 00:34:34,208 --> 00:34:35,443 SO, WHAT CAN WE DO? 1315 00:34:35,443 --> 00:34:37,745 WELL, WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE 1316 00:34:37,745 --> 00:34:38,546 IMPRISONED IN THESE COMPOUNDS, 1317 00:34:38,546 --> 00:34:39,647 THAT'S GOING TO TAKE 1318 00:34:39,647 --> 00:34:41,182 COLLABORATION BETWEEN 1319 00:34:41,182 --> 00:34:42,350 INTERNATIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. 1320 00:34:42,350 --> 00:34:44,819 SO UNLESS YOU'RE THE HEAD OF 1321 00:34:44,819 --> 00:34:45,419 INTERPOL, WHICH, I'M GUESSING, 1322 00:34:45,419 --> 00:34:46,020 YOU'RE NOT, THERE'S NOT MUCH 1323 00:34:46,020 --> 00:34:47,188 YOU, PERSONALLY, CAN DO. 1324 00:34:47,188 --> 00:34:49,991 IN THIS COUNTRY, I'D ARGUE 1325 00:34:49,991 --> 00:34:52,160 PLATFORMS LIKE THESE SHOULD BE 1326 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,595 DOING WAY MORE TO PREVENT PEOPLE 1327 00:34:54,595 --> 00:34:56,831 FROM MAKING FAKE ACCOUNTS AND 1328 00:34:56,831 --> 00:34:57,431 TARGETING PEOPLE, BECAUSE IT'S 1329 00:34:57,431 --> 00:34:58,966 HAPPENING ON THEIR WATCH. 1330 00:34:58,966 --> 00:35:04,772 BUT THE TRUTH IS, PERHAPS THE 1331 00:35:04,772 --> 00:35:05,673 MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO STOP THIS 1332 00:35:05,673 --> 00:35:07,341 FROM HAPPENING, IS TO MAKE IT 1333 00:35:07,341 --> 00:35:08,342 LESS LUCRATIVE BY HAVING FEWER 1334 00:35:08,342 --> 00:35:09,410 PEOPLE FALL FOR IT. 1335 00:35:09,410 --> 00:35:10,011 AND THAT'S WHERE AWARENESS OF 1336 00:35:10,011 --> 00:35:11,345 THIS SCAM IS KEY. 1337 00:35:11,345 --> 00:35:13,514 THIS IS ONE OF THOSE RARE CASES 1338 00:35:13,514 --> 00:35:14,115 WHERE RAISING AWARENESS IS, IN 1339 00:35:14,115 --> 00:35:15,349 ITSELF, GENUINELY USEFUL. 1340 00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:16,317 BECAUSE HOPEFULLY, YOU'VE SEEN 1341 00:35:16,317 --> 00:35:17,452 TONIGHT-- THIS COULD HAPPEN TO 1342 00:35:17,452 --> 00:35:18,619 SOMEONE YOU KNOW. 1343 00:35:18,619 --> 00:35:20,988 THIS HASN'T JUST SUCKED IN OLD 1344 00:35:20,988 --> 00:35:21,558 PEOPLE, OR THOSE WHO AREN'T 1345 00:35:21,558 --> 00:35:22,091 TECH-SAVVY. 1346 00:35:22,091 --> 00:35:23,257 IT MANAGED TO REEL IN A BANK 1347 00:35:23,257 --> 00:35:24,258 CEO. 1348 00:35:24,258 --> 00:35:26,160 EVERYONE HAS AN IMAGE OF THE 1349 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:26,794 TYPE OF PERSON WHO'S SUSCEPTIBLE 1350 00:35:26,794 --> 00:35:27,728 TO GETTING SCAMMED IN THEIR 1351 00:35:27,728 --> 00:35:29,831 HEADS, BUT UNLESS THAT IMAGE IS 1352 00:35:29,831 --> 00:35:31,232 A MIRROR, YOU MIGHT BE WRONG. 1353 00:35:31,232 --> 00:35:34,135 SO: AS A GENERAL RULE, WHEN A 1354 00:35:34,135 --> 00:35:35,403 STRANGER ON A DATING APP SAYS 1355 00:35:35,403 --> 00:35:37,305 EITHER "I LOVE YOU" OR "CRYPTO" 1356 00:35:37,305 --> 00:35:38,673 WITHIN A MONTH OF TALKING TO 1357 00:35:38,673 --> 00:35:41,209 YOU: WORRY. 1358 00:35:41,209 --> 00:35:42,844 HONESTLY, EVEN IF THEY DON'T 1359 00:35:42,844 --> 00:35:43,444 TURN OUT TO BE SCAMMERS, THOSE 1360 00:35:43,444 --> 00:35:44,078 ARE PRETTY GOOD RED FLAGS TO BE 1361 00:35:44,078 --> 00:35:47,315 LOOKING FOR, PERSONALITY-WISE. 1362 00:35:47,315 --> 00:35:48,249 AND IT'S WORTH TELLING YOUR 1363 00:35:48,249 --> 00:35:49,517 FRIENDS AND FAMILY ABOUT PIG 1364 00:35:49,517 --> 00:35:50,985 BUTCHERING, TOO. 1365 00:35:50,985 --> 00:35:51,652 IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A BIG 1366 00:35:51,652 --> 00:35:53,688 LECTURE OR ANYTHING. 1367 00:35:53,688 --> 00:35:54,322 YOU CAN JUST SEND THEM A LINK TO 1368 00:35:54,322 --> 00:35:56,324 THIS SHOW. 1369 00:35:56,324 --> 00:35:56,924 AND IF THEY SAY, "I HATE THAT 1370 00:35:56,924 --> 00:35:58,493 GUY," SAY, "YEAH, ME TOO, HE'S 1371 00:35:58,493 --> 00:35:59,227 THE WORST, JUST SKIP PAST THE 1372 00:35:59,227 --> 00:36:00,628 JOKES." 1373 00:36:00,628 --> 00:36:02,497 AND IF THEY SAY, "I'LL WATCH IT, 1374 00:36:02,497 --> 00:36:02,999 BUT HE LOOKS LIKE A LEGO 1375 00:36:02,999 --> 00:36:04,232 ACCOUNTANT. 1376 00:36:04,232 --> 00:36:05,900 WAIT, NO-- HE LOOKS LIKE CHAT 1377 00:36:05,900 --> 00:36:06,469 GPT'S ANSWER TO 'SHOW ME A 1378 00:36:06,469 --> 00:36:08,102 VIRGIN.' 1379 00:36:08,102 --> 00:36:09,704 WAIT, NO. 1380 00:36:09,704 --> 00:36:10,338 HE LOOKS LIKE HARRY POTTER IF HE 1381 00:36:10,338 --> 00:36:12,673 JUST STAYED UNDER THE STAIRS." 1382 00:36:12,673 --> 00:36:14,375 JUST LEAVE THEM ON READ. 1383 00:36:14,375 --> 00:36:14,944 YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMPLETELY 1384 00:36:14,944 --> 00:36:16,711 SELL ME OUT. 1385 00:36:16,711 --> 00:36:17,445 MAYBE DROP A THUMBS-UP EMJOI, 1386 00:36:17,445 --> 00:36:20,414 BUT LEAVE IT AT THAT. 1387 00:36:20,414 --> 00:36:21,783 AND LOOK: IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE 1388 00:36:21,783 --> 00:36:23,217 WHO'S BEEN SCAMMED LIKE THIS, BE 1389 00:36:23,217 --> 00:36:25,820 KIND. 1390 00:36:25,820 --> 00:36:26,888 IT'S HUMAN TO WANT 1391 00:36:26,888 --> 00:36:27,555 COMPANIONSHIP. 1392 00:36:27,555 --> 00:36:29,290 AND IT'S ACTUALLY A NICE QUALITY 1393 00:36:29,290 --> 00:36:30,892 TO BE TRUSTING. 1394 00:36:30,892 --> 00:36:33,094 AND IT SUCKS THAT THE INTERNET, 1395 00:36:33,094 --> 00:36:34,095 WHICH SHOULD BE A WAY TO 1396 00:36:34,095 --> 00:36:34,695 ALLEVIATE LONELINESS, CAN BE 1397 00:36:34,695 --> 00:36:35,296 TURNED INTO A TOOL TO EXPLOIT 1398 00:36:35,296 --> 00:36:37,165 IT. 1399 00:36:37,165 --> 00:36:39,367 BUT MAYBE, IF WE ALL LOOK OUT 1400 00:36:39,367 --> 00:36:40,401 FOR ONE ANOTHER, WE CAN ENSURE 1401 00:36:40,401 --> 00:36:41,769 THAT THE WORST MISTAKE ANYONE 1402 00:36:41,769 --> 00:36:46,240 EVER MAKES ON THE INTERNET IS 1403 00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:46,743 INADVERTENTLY BUYING AN 1404 00:36:46,743 --> 00:36:50,945 EXCELLENT CHRISTMAS TREE FOR GAY 1405 00:36:50,945 --> 00:36:53,481 MICE. 1406 00:36:53,481 --> 00:36:54,482 BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT THAT BAD 1407 00:36:54,482 --> 00:36:54,918 A PURCHASE. 1408 00:36:54,918 --> 00:36:55,351 BELIEVE ME, I KNOW. 1409 00:36:55,351 --> 00:36:58,019 AND NOW, THIS. 1410 00:36:58,019 --> 00:37:02,356 Announcer: AND NOW, LOSING 1411 00:37:02,356 --> 00:37:05,259 IT OVER MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL'S NEW PANTS. 1412 00:37:05,259 --> 00:37:06,260 MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL 1413 00:37:06,260 --> 00:37:07,462 INTRODUCED NEW UNIFORMS THIS 1414 00:37:07,462 --> 00:37:08,529 YEAR, BUT THERE'S PROBLEMS. 1415 00:37:08,529 --> 00:37:11,032 THE PANTS ARE MADE OF THINNER 1416 00:37:11,032 --> 00:37:12,133 FABRIC, MAKING THEM ALMOST 1417 00:37:12,133 --> 00:37:15,636 SEE-THROUGH, CHRIS. 1418 00:37:15,636 --> 00:37:18,005 YOU'VE GOT MY ATTENTION, I'M 1419 00:37:18,005 --> 00:37:18,274 LISTENING. 1420 00:37:18,274 --> 00:37:19,440 SHIRTS KEEPING THINGS 1421 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,441 COVERED. 1422 00:37:20,441 --> 00:37:20,877 LOOK AT HIS HANDS. 1423 00:37:20,877 --> 00:37:22,110 THEY ARE DEFINITELY 1424 00:37:22,110 --> 00:37:23,177 SEE-THROUGH. 1425 00:37:23,177 --> 00:37:24,579 YOU CAN SEE IT. 1426 00:37:24,579 --> 00:37:28,349 OH. 1427 00:37:28,349 --> 00:37:28,618 [LAUGHTER] 1428 00:37:28,618 --> 00:37:30,685 STEVE! 1429 00:37:30,685 --> 00:37:30,854 WOW. 1430 00:37:30,854 --> 00:37:32,954 WE CAN GO TO THE WEATHER NOW. 1431 00:37:32,954 --> 00:37:34,856 DOES HE LOOK HAPPY WEARING 1432 00:37:34,856 --> 00:37:35,058 THEM? 1433 00:37:35,058 --> 00:37:35,225 NO. 1434 00:37:35,225 --> 00:37:36,924 HE LOOKS HAPPY WEARING THEM. 1435 00:37:36,924 --> 00:37:38,893 DO YOU SEE THE PROBLEM? 1436 00:37:38,893 --> 00:37:40,161 I DON'T THINK GIRLS ARE 1437 00:37:40,161 --> 00:37:41,262 SAYING THERE'S A PROBLEM. 1438 00:37:41,262 --> 00:37:44,031 PLAYERS, I THINK, HAVE AN 1439 00:37:44,031 --> 00:37:44,932 ISSUE WITH IT. 1440 00:37:44,932 --> 00:37:46,868 PATENS AND BOXER BRIEFS, 1441 00:37:46,868 --> 00:37:48,002 EVERYONE IS GOING TO SEE THAT? 1442 00:37:48,002 --> 00:37:50,872 I'M SUDDENLY INTERESTED IN 1443 00:37:50,872 --> 00:37:51,141 BASEBALL. 1444 00:37:51,141 --> 00:37:53,674 CAN WE ZOOM IN TO THESE 1445 00:37:53,674 --> 00:37:54,408 PHOTOS A LITTLE MORE? 1446 00:37:54,408 --> 00:37:56,611 I CAN'T TELL BECAUSE I'VE GOT 1447 00:37:56,611 --> 00:37:56,880 BAD EYES. 1448 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,379 YOU CAN SEE THE SHIRT TUCKED 1449 00:37:58,379 --> 00:37:58,548 IN. 1450 00:37:58,548 --> 00:38:01,082 MAY BECOME OF THE UNIFORMS, 1451 00:38:01,082 --> 00:38:03,785 MORE WOMEN ARE WATCHING 1452 00:38:03,785 --> 00:38:05,119 BASEBALL, RUNNING TO WATCH 1453 00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:05,388 BASEBALL. 1454 00:38:05,388 --> 00:38:06,687 YOU'VE GOT ERIKA'S INTEREST. 1455 00:38:06,687 --> 00:38:10,024 SHE IS GOOGLING OVER HERE. 1456 00:38:10,024 --> 00:38:12,193 THAT'S A GOOD RECRUITING 1457 00:38:12,193 --> 00:38:12,428 DEVICE. 1458 00:38:12,428 --> 00:38:13,561 NOTHING WRONG WITH THE PANTS. 1459 00:38:13,561 --> 00:38:15,196 I THINK THEY ARE FINE. 1460 00:38:15,196 --> 00:38:18,266 I WAS INSPECTING THEM. 1461 00:38:18,266 --> 00:38:18,768 OKAY. 1462 00:38:18,768 --> 00:38:21,402 THIS MAY MAKE YOU-- 1463 00:38:21,402 --> 00:38:23,571 [LAUGHTER] 1464 00:38:23,571 --> 00:38:26,808 WHO PUT THE ORDER OF THE 1465 00:38:26,808 --> 00:38:29,410 STORIES THIS WAY? 1466 00:38:29,410 --> 00:38:31,479 John: THAT'S OUR SHOW. 1467 00:38:31,479 --> 00:38:32,747 THANKS SO MUCH FOR WATCHING. 1468 00:38:32,747 --> 00:38:35,283 WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK, 1469 00:38:35,283 --> 00:38:35,950 GOOD NIGHT. 1470 00:38:35,950 --> 00:38:36,419 [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] 1471 00:38:36,419 --> 00:38:42,893 ♪ ♪