1 00:00:12,029 --> 00:00:14,119 >> Announcer: TONIGHT ON "LATE 2 00:00:12,029 --> 00:00:14,119 NIGHT WITH SETH MEYERS" -- 3 00:00:14,119 --> 00:00:19,120 AMY ADAMS, 4 00:00:14,119 --> 00:00:19,120 AUTHOR AND JOURNALIST, 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,239 ADAM DAVIDSON, 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,239 FEATURING THE 8G BAND WITH 7 00:00:24,100 --> 00:00:27,239 FRED ARMISEN 8 00:00:25,059 --> 00:00:27,239 AND NOW, SETH MEYERS 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,020 I'M SETH MEYERS. 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,020 THIS IS "LATE NIGHT. 11 00:00:35,020 --> 00:00:36,210 HOW'S EVERYBODY DOING TONIGHT? 12 00:00:35,020 --> 00:00:36,210 THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR 13 00:00:36,210 --> 00:00:37,270 IN THAT CASE, LET'S GET TO THE 14 00:00:36,210 --> 00:00:37,270 NEWS 15 00:00:37,270 --> 00:00:41,280 PRESIDENT TRUMP ANNOUNCED LAST 16 00:00:37,270 --> 00:00:41,280 NIGHT THAT HE WAS INSTRUCTING 17 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,079 HIS ADMINISTRATION TO BEGIN 18 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,079 COOPERATING WITH PRESIDENT-ELECT 19 00:00:43,079 --> 00:00:44,240 JOE BIDEN'S TRANSITION TEAM. 20 00:00:43,079 --> 00:00:44,240 WOW! 21 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,130 I'D SAY, "WHAT TOOK YOU SO 22 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,130 LONG?" 23 00:00:46,130 --> 00:00:52,000 BUT I'LL BE HONEST, THIS IS WAY 24 00:00:46,130 --> 00:00:52,000 SOONER THAN I THOUGHT. 25 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,159 I FIGURED YOU'D HIDE OUT IN THE 26 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,159 BASEMENT FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS 27 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,240 LIKE THE FAMILY IN "PARASITE." 28 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,240 I'M JUST KIDDING 29 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,159 THAT FAMILY HAS WAY MORE MONEY 30 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,159 THAN YOU 31 00:00:59,159 --> 00:01:02,039 THAT'S RIGHT, PRESIDENT TRUMP IS 32 00:00:59,159 --> 00:01:02,039 INSTRUCTING HIS ADMINISTRATION 33 00:01:02,039 --> 00:01:03,079 TO BEGIN COOPERATING WITH 34 00:01:02,039 --> 00:01:03,079 JOE BIDEN'S TRANSITION TEAM. 35 00:01:03,079 --> 00:01:04,260 IF NOTHING ELSE, IT'LL BE GOOD 36 00:01:03,079 --> 00:01:04,260 PRACTICE FOR COOPERATING WITH 37 00:01:04,260 --> 00:01:08,090 LAW ENFORCEMENT. 38 00:01:04,260 --> 00:01:08,090 THOUGH I'M NOT SURE IF TRUMP 39 00:01:08,090 --> 00:01:10,239 UNDERSTANDS WHAT COOPERATING 40 00:01:08,090 --> 00:01:10,239 WITH THE TRANSITION MEANS, 41 00:01:10,239 --> 00:01:15,180 BECAUSE HE TOLD MELANIA, "GO 42 00:01:10,239 --> 00:01:15,180 WITH JOE." 43 00:01:15,180 --> 00:01:16,239 WHEN ASKED ABOUT CLAIMS OF VOTER 44 00:01:15,180 --> 00:01:16,239 FRAUD YESTERDAY DURING AN 45 00:01:16,239 --> 00:01:19,230 INTERVIEW, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S 46 00:01:16,239 --> 00:01:19,230 PERSONAL LAWYER, RUDY GIULIANI, 47 00:01:19,230 --> 00:01:23,180 SAID THAT HE WAS, QUOTE, 48 00:01:19,230 --> 00:01:23,180 "EXAGGERATING A LITTLE." 49 00:01:23,180 --> 00:01:31,000 SAID GIULIANI, "REALLY, SHE WAS 50 00:01:23,180 --> 00:01:31,000 MY SECOND COUSIN." 51 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,159 PRESIDENT TRUMP TODAY PRESIDED 52 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,159 OVER THE ANNUAL WHITE HOUSE 53 00:01:32,159 --> 00:01:36,210 THANKSGIVING TURKEY PARDON 54 00:01:32,159 --> 00:01:36,210 THOUGH THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF 55 00:01:36,210 --> 00:01:38,229 NEW YORK REMINDED THE TURKEY 56 00:01:36,210 --> 00:01:38,229 THAT HE COULD STILL BE 57 00:01:38,229 --> 00:01:40,129 PROSECUTED FOR STATE CRIMES. 58 00:01:38,229 --> 00:01:40,129 ACCORDING TO A NEW SURVEY, 59 00:01:40,129 --> 00:01:42,120 THREE-QUARTERS OF AMERICANS SAID 60 00:01:40,129 --> 00:01:42,120 THAT THEY'RE COUNTING DOWN THE 61 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,069 DAYS UNTIL 2020 IS OVER, WHILE 62 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,069 EVERYONE ELSE IS COUNTING THE 20 63 00:01:45,069 --> 00:01:49,159 DAYS AFTER THAT. 64 00:01:45,069 --> 00:01:49,159 TESLA FOUNDER, ELON MUSK, 65 00:01:49,159 --> 00:01:53,099 YESTERDAY BECAME THE WORLD'S 66 00:01:49,159 --> 00:01:53,099 SECOND RICHEST PERSON, WORTH 67 00:01:53,099 --> 00:01:54,259 NEARLY $128 BILLION, WHILE THE 68 00:01:53,099 --> 00:01:54,259 WORLD'S RICHEST PERSON REMAINS 69 00:01:54,259 --> 00:02:02,120 DAVE PURELL. 70 00:01:54,259 --> 00:02:02,120 A MAN WEARING A TRUMP SHIRT IN 71 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,260 AN INFLATABLE POOL FLOATY WITH 72 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,260 TRUMP'S LIKENESS, WAS CHARGED 73 00:02:05,260 --> 00:02:09,210 WITH ASSAULT ON SUNDAY, AFTER HE 74 00:02:05,260 --> 00:02:09,210 FORCIBLY BREATHED ON TWO WOMEN 75 00:02:09,210 --> 00:02:13,189 OUTSIDE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S 76 00:02:09,210 --> 00:02:13,189 VIRGINIA GOLF COURSE 77 00:02:13,189 --> 00:02:15,219 AND AS OF THIS TAPING, THE MAN 78 00:02:13,189 --> 00:02:15,219 HAS ALREADY BEEN BOOKED, 79 00:02:15,219 --> 00:02:18,139 ARRAIGNED, AND ADDED TO TRUMP'S 80 00:02:15,219 --> 00:02:18,139 LEGAL TEAM 81 00:02:18,139 --> 00:02:22,090 "I'M THE KRAKEN. 82 00:02:18,139 --> 00:02:22,090 15 ALLEGED MEMBERS OF THE 83 00:02:22,090 --> 00:02:24,180 PHILADELPHIA MAFIA HAVE BEEN 84 00:02:22,090 --> 00:02:24,180 INDICTED ON FEDERAL CHARGES, 85 00:02:24,180 --> 00:02:27,289 INCLUDING A MAN NICKNAMED TONY 86 00:02:24,180 --> 00:02:27,289 MEATBALLS. 87 00:02:27,289 --> 00:02:31,139 AND WHEN THE MOB HEARD ABOUT IT, 88 00:02:27,289 --> 00:02:31,139 THEY WERE WORRIED. 89 00:02:31,139 --> 00:02:35,090 "WHICH TONY MEATBALLS? 90 00:02:31,139 --> 00:02:35,090 RESEARCHERS IN RUSSIA ANNOUNCED 91 00:02:35,090 --> 00:02:36,280 TODAY THAT THE COUNTRY'S 92 00:02:35,090 --> 00:02:36,280 CORONAVIRUS VACCINE IS 95% 93 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,030 EFFECTIVE. 94 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,030 AND LIKE ALL THEIR VACCINES, 95 00:02:39,030 --> 00:02:43,180 IT'S ADMINISTERED IN TWO SHOTS 96 00:02:39,030 --> 00:02:43,180 THE CDC HAS RELEASED UPDATED 97 00:02:43,180 --> 00:02:47,099 GUIDANCE FOR CRUISE SHIPS AND 98 00:02:43,180 --> 00:02:47,099 NOW ADVISES THAT ALL PEOPLE 99 00:02:47,099 --> 00:02:50,199 AVOID CRUISES. 100 00:02:47,099 --> 00:02:50,199 NOTHING TO DO WITH COVID, BUT 101 00:02:50,199 --> 00:02:51,240 APPARENTLY, THERE'S AN IMPROV 102 00:02:50,199 --> 00:02:51,240 TEAM ON BOARD. 103 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:56,090 [ LIGHT LAUGHTER ] 104 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:56,090 "CAN WE GET A SUGGESTION OF A 105 00:02:56,090 --> 00:03:01,090 PLACE? 106 00:02:56,090 --> 00:03:01,090 A PLACE YOU MIGHT GO WITH YOUR 107 00:03:01,090 --> 00:03:03,120 FAMILY?" 108 00:03:01,090 --> 00:03:03,120 AND FINALLY, NOW THAT GSA HEAD 109 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,110 EMILY MURPHY HAS FINALLY 110 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,110 ASCERTAINED JOE BIDEN AS THE 111 00:03:06,110 --> 00:03:08,250 WINNER OF THE ELECTION, THE 112 00:03:06,110 --> 00:03:08,250 TRANSITION TO A NEW 113 00:03:08,250 --> 00:03:11,009 ADMINISTRATION CAN OFFICIALLY 114 00:03:08,250 --> 00:03:11,009 BEGIN. 115 00:03:11,009 --> 00:03:12,080 WITH THAT IN MIND, IT'S TIME TO 116 00:03:11,009 --> 00:03:12,080 LOOK AT SOME OF JOE BIDEN'S 117 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:16,150 "TRANSITION PRIORITIES." 118 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:16,150 ♪ 119 00:03:16,150 --> 00:03:19,030 RE-ESTABLISH DIPLOMATIC TIES 120 00:03:16,150 --> 00:03:19,030 WITH OLD ALLIES LIKE FRANCE, 121 00:03:19,030 --> 00:03:22,129 SPAIN, AND CALIFORNIA. 122 00:03:19,030 --> 00:03:22,129 USING FLAMETHROWER, CLEAR WHITE 123 00:03:22,129 --> 00:03:27,030 HOUSE BASEMENT OF 124 00:03:22,129 --> 00:03:27,030 STEPHEN MILLER'S WEB 125 00:03:27,030 --> 00:03:29,120 ESTABLISH ANTI-MALARKEY HOTLINE, 126 00:03:27,030 --> 00:03:29,120 "SEE MALARKEY, SAY MALARKEY. 127 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,110 RELEASE AND PARDON TURKEY 128 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,110 SENTENCED TO SOLITARY 129 00:03:32,110 --> 00:03:37,150 CONFINEMENT BY PRESIDENT TRUMP 130 00:03:32,110 --> 00:03:37,150 USING SOOTHING VOICE AND TREATS, 131 00:03:37,150 --> 00:03:41,060 COAX DR.FAUCI OUT OF HIDING 132 00:03:37,150 --> 00:03:41,060 PLACE AND BACK TO PODIUM WHERE 133 00:03:41,060 --> 00:03:44,210 HE CAN ADVISE AMERICA ON 134 00:03:41,060 --> 00:03:44,210 PANDEMIC 135 00:03:44,210 --> 00:03:47,060 REMOVE LISTENING DEVICES PLANTED 136 00:03:44,210 --> 00:03:47,060 BY RUSSIA, TURKEY, SAUDI ARABIA, 137 00:03:47,060 --> 00:03:52,099 CHINA, ROBERT MUELLER, MELANIA, 138 00:03:47,060 --> 00:03:52,099 AND BILLY BUSH 139 00:03:52,099 --> 00:03:56,189 JUST FOR FUN, WIN MICHIGAN THREE 140 00:03:52,099 --> 00:03:56,189 OR FOUR MORE TIMES 141 00:03:56,189 --> 00:04:00,009 CLEAR OUT ALL THE OLD DELIVERY 142 00:03:56,189 --> 00:04:00,009 BAGS FROM BURGER KING, 143 00:04:00,009 --> 00:04:05,210 McDONALD'S, AND REGENERON. 144 00:04:00,009 --> 00:04:05,210 MOVE THAT ONE CEILING TILE AND 145 00:04:05,210 --> 00:04:07,099 SEE IF STACK OF BATMAN'S IS 146 00:04:05,210 --> 00:04:07,099 STILL THERE. 147 00:04:07,099 --> 00:04:08,289 START PRACTICING THAT MOVE WHERE 148 00:04:07,099 --> 00:04:08,289 ONE FLUID MOTION, YOU SPIN YOUR 149 00:04:08,289 --> 00:04:13,210 CHAIR AROUND, ANSWER THE PHONE 150 00:04:08,289 --> 00:04:13,210 AND SAY "YOU'RE A GO FOR JOE!" 151 00:04:13,210 --> 00:04:15,289 REJOIN THE PARIS CLIMATE ACCORD, 152 00:04:13,210 --> 00:04:15,289 THE IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL, THE 153 00:04:15,289 --> 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AND COLUMBIA HOUSE 154 00:04:15,289 --> 00:04:18,009 RECORDS. 155 00:04:18,009 --> 00:04:21,129 IT'S JUST A PENNY! 156 00:04:18,009 --> 00:04:21,129 MITCH McCONNELL CAN'T SAY NO TO 157 00:04:21,129 --> 00:04:23,250 A PENNY. 158 00:04:21,129 --> 00:04:23,250 TAKE A CALL FROM 159 00:04:23,250 --> 00:04:27,240 MITCH McCONNELL, SAYING IT'S A 160 00:04:23,250 --> 00:04:27,240 NO FROM REPUBLICANS ON COLUMBIA 161 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,100 HOUSE RECORDS. 162 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,100 NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR 163 00:04:29,100 --> 00:04:33,040 PROFLIGATE SPENDING. 164 00:04:29,100 --> 00:04:33,040 AND FINALLY, PURELL THE LIVING 165 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:38,079 HELL OUT OF THAT PLACE 166 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:38,079 THIS HAS BEEN "JOE BIDEN'S 167 00:04:38,079 --> 00:04:39,100 TRANSITION PRIORITIES. 168 00:04:38,079 --> 00:04:39,100 WE'VE GOT A GREAT SHOW FOR YOU 169 00:04:39,100 --> 00:04:40,000 TONIGHT! 170 00:04:39,100 --> 00:04:40,000 SHE'S AN EMMY AND 171 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,269 OSCAR-NOMINATED ACTRESS WHO IS 172 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,269 STARRING IN THE NEW NETFLIX FILM 173 00:04:41,269 --> 00:04:48,290 "HILLYBILLY ELEGY," AMY ADAMS IS 174 00:04:41,269 --> 00:04:48,290 HERE 175 00:04:48,290 --> 00:04:50,180 AND HE IS A PEABODY 176 00:04:48,290 --> 00:04:50,180 AWARD-WINNING FINANCE AND 177 00:04:50,180 --> 00:04:51,180 ECONOMICS JOURNALIST AND 178 00:04:50,180 --> 00:04:51,180 PODCASTER. 179 00:04:51,180 --> 00:04:53,170 HIS BOOK, "THE PASSION ECONOMY 180 00:04:51,180 --> 00:04:53,170 THE NEW RULES FOR THRIVING IN 181 00:04:53,170 --> 00:04:55,159 THE 21st CENTURY," IS OUT NOW. 182 00:04:53,170 --> 00:04:55,159 ADAM DAVIDSON WILL BE HERE 183 00:04:55,159 --> 00:05:00,110 BUT BEFORE WE GET TO ALL THAT, I 184 00:04:55,159 --> 00:05:00,110 AM READING THIS CUE CARD FOR THE 185 00:05:00,110 --> 00:05:05,189 FIRST TIME, SO, WITH THE 186 00:05:00,110 --> 00:05:05,189 ELECTION HAVING HAPPENED AND 187 00:05:05,189 --> 00:05:08,069 COVID A REPETITIVE STORY, MANY 188 00:05:05,189 --> 00:05:08,069 ARE WONDERING, WHAT, AGAIN, IS 189 00:05:08,069 --> 00:05:12,009 THE DEAL WITH PRINCE HARRY AND 190 00:05:08,069 --> 00:05:12,009 MEGHAN MARKLE? 191 00:05:12,009 --> 00:05:14,230 AND ALSO, PEOPLE ARE THINKING, 192 00:05:12,009 --> 00:05:14,230 "WHO CARES?" 193 00:05:14,230 --> 00:05:16,160 AND AT THE SAME TIME, "THE 194 00:05:14,230 --> 00:05:16,160 CROWN" IS ON, WHICH BRINGS US TO 195 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,019 A NEW SEGMENT CALLED "ROYAL 196 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,019 WATCH: 197 00:05:18,019 --> 00:05:21,069 NEWS FROM THE REAL-LIFE CROWN," 198 00:05:18,019 --> 00:05:21,069 SHEESH 199 00:05:21,069 --> 00:05:26,199 AND HERE WITH THAT IS OUR 200 00:05:22,259 --> 00:05:26,199 FRIEND - 201 00:05:24,149 --> 00:05:26,199 OH, OKAY -- JOHN MULANEY 202 00:05:29,250 --> 00:05:31,110 >> Seth: WELCOME BACK, BUDDY 203 00:05:29,250 --> 00:05:31,110 >> THANK YOU, SETH 204 00:05:31,110 --> 00:05:33,269 THANK YOU, EVERYBODY 205 00:05:31,110 --> 00:05:33,269 YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ON THIS SHOW 206 00:05:33,269 --> 00:05:36,159 MANY TIMES, BUT IT'S KIND OF 207 00:05:33,269 --> 00:05:36,159 SURREAL TO BE THE GUEST ON 208 00:05:36,159 --> 00:05:40,269 "ROYAL WATCH: NEWS FROM THE 209 00:05:36,159 --> 00:05:40,269 REAL-LIFE CROWN" SEGMENT 210 00:05:40,269 --> 00:05:45,019 >> Seth: I'M NOT MAD 211 00:05:40,269 --> 00:05:45,019 I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHY DID YOU 212 00:05:45,019 --> 00:05:46,050 WRITE IT THIS WAY, MAKING IT 213 00:05:45,019 --> 00:05:46,050 SEEM LIKE IT'S A RECURRING 214 00:05:46,050 --> 00:05:49,189 SEGMENT? 215 00:05:46,050 --> 00:05:49,189 IS IT TO JUSTIFY YOU WANTING TO 216 00:05:49,189 --> 00:05:53,110 TALK ABOUT THE ROYALS, OR AN EGO 217 00:05:49,189 --> 00:05:53,110 THING OF YOU WANTING TO FEEL 218 00:05:53,110 --> 00:05:58,209 LIKE THE GUEST WHO WAS CHOSEN TO 219 00:05:53,110 --> 00:05:58,209 BE ON THIS FAKE SEGMENT? 220 00:05:58,209 --> 00:06:02,199 >> I THINK PROBABLY BOTH, IN A 221 00:05:58,209 --> 00:06:02,199 WAY. 222 00:06:02,199 --> 00:06:03,250 DOES THAT MAKE SENSE 223 00:06:02,199 --> 00:06:03,250 >> Seth: WELL, WE'RE IN IT NOW 224 00:06:03,250 --> 00:06:06,269 SO WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT 225 00:06:03,250 --> 00:06:06,269 PRINCE HARRY AND MEGHAN MARKLE 226 00:06:06,269 --> 00:06:09,230 AND NETFLIX'S "THE CROWN" 227 00:06:06,269 --> 00:06:09,230 CURRENTLY? 228 00:06:09,230 --> 00:06:11,290 >> IT'S WEIRD! 229 00:06:09,230 --> 00:06:11,290 OR DON'T YOU THINK IT'S WEIRD 230 00:06:11,290 --> 00:06:13,000 THAT PRINCE HARRY AND 231 00:06:11,290 --> 00:06:13,000 MEGHAN MARKLE, THEY LEFT THE 232 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,069 ROYAL FAMILY, AND THEY'RE LIKE, 233 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,069 "OH, THIS WILL BE THE STORY OF 234 00:06:15,069 --> 00:06:19,279 THE YEAR"? 235 00:06:15,069 --> 00:06:19,279 AND THEN COVID - 236 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:20,240 >> Seth: WHEN DID THEY SAY THAT, 237 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:20,240 THOUGH 238 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,230 DID THEY SAY "THIS WILL BE THE 239 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,230 STORY OF THE YEAR" 240 00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:24,019 >> NO, BUT PEOPLE SAID, "THIS IS 241 00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:24,019 A BIG DEAL," YOU KNOW, WHICH IT 242 00:06:24,019 --> 00:06:29,100 IS 243 00:06:24,019 --> 00:06:29,100 IT'S A HUGE DEAL 244 00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:31,180 >> Seth: START AGAIN 245 00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:31,180 >> OKAY. 246 00:06:31,180 --> 00:06:33,209 OH, REAL QUICK, YOU MET PRINCE 247 00:06:31,180 --> 00:06:33,209 WILLIAM AND KATE MIDDLETON - 248 00:06:33,209 --> 00:06:37,060 EXCUSE ME, MRS. MIDDLETON, AT AN 249 00:06:33,209 --> 00:06:37,060 EVENT ONCE, OR YOU SAW THEM AT 250 00:06:37,060 --> 00:06:39,269 AN EVENT 251 00:06:37,060 --> 00:06:39,269 WHICH WAS IT 252 00:06:39,269 --> 00:06:41,050 >> Seth: YEAH, WE WERE IN A 253 00:06:39,269 --> 00:06:41,050 FUND-RAISER FOR ST. ANDREWS, 254 00:06:41,050 --> 00:06:43,000 YEAH 255 00:06:41,050 --> 00:06:43,000 >> WHAT'S THAT 256 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,029 >> Seth: IT'S THE SCHOOL THEY 257 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,029 MET AT 258 00:06:44,029 --> 00:06:47,180 IT'S A UNIVERSITY IN SCOTLAND. 259 00:06:44,029 --> 00:06:47,180 >> THE KING AND QUEEN'S SCHOOL 260 00:06:47,180 --> 00:06:49,170 HAD A FUND-RAISER IN THE 261 00:06:47,180 --> 00:06:49,170 UNITED STATES? 262 00:06:49,170 --> 00:06:52,180 >> Seth: YEAH. 263 00:06:49,170 --> 00:06:52,180 >> THAT'S WHACK AS [ BLEEP ], 264 00:06:52,180 --> 00:06:54,149 MAN. 265 00:06:52,180 --> 00:06:54,149 WHAT DID THEY ACT LIKE 266 00:06:54,149 --> 00:06:58,129 WERE THEY STUCK UP 267 00:06:54,149 --> 00:06:58,129 >> Seth: NO, THEY WERE VERY 268 00:06:58,129 --> 00:06:59,170 PLEASANT, AND MY WIFE STILL 269 00:06:58,129 --> 00:06:59,170 TALKS ABOUT HOW KATE HAD THE 270 00:06:59,170 --> 00:07:00,180 BEST, LIKE, TABLE MANNERS SHE'D 271 00:06:59,170 --> 00:07:00,180 EVER SEEN. 272 00:07:00,180 --> 00:07:09,100 LIKE, SHE COULD GET ONE PEA ON A 273 00:07:00,180 --> 00:07:09,100 KNIFE. 274 00:07:09,100 --> 00:07:12,180 >> WAS SHE EATING LIKE 275 00:07:09,100 --> 00:07:12,180 CHARLIE CHAPLIN? 276 00:07:12,180 --> 00:07:15,110 WHY WAS THAT HAPPENING 277 00:07:12,180 --> 00:07:15,110 I REMEMBER YOU SENT ME -- HE 278 00:07:15,110 --> 00:07:17,269 SAID HE WAS NICE 279 00:07:15,110 --> 00:07:17,269 HE SENT ME A PHOTO OF THEIR 280 00:07:17,269 --> 00:07:20,050 PLACEMENT CARD AT THE TABLE. 281 00:07:17,269 --> 00:07:20,050 HE DINES WITH ROYALTY, I GET A 282 00:07:20,050 --> 00:07:22,110 JPEG, WHATEVER 283 00:07:20,050 --> 00:07:22,110 LISTEN, I'M SO JEALOUS OF YOU 284 00:07:22,110 --> 00:07:25,089 FOR MEETING THEM 285 00:07:22,110 --> 00:07:25,089 I'VE NEVER TOLD YOU THAT 286 00:07:25,089 --> 00:07:28,069 OKAY, RESETTING. 287 00:07:25,089 --> 00:07:28,069 I THINK THAT IT WAS A VERY BIG 288 00:07:28,069 --> 00:07:32,120 DEAL THAT PRINCE HARRY AND 289 00:07:28,069 --> 00:07:32,120 MEGHAN MARKLE LEFT THE ROYAL 290 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,040 FAMILY, BECAUSE THAT FAMILY IS 291 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,040 PROPER, AND YOU HAVE TO 292 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,090 LITERALLY -- HAVE TO LITERALLY 293 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,090 BE DRESSED NICE TO BE IN THE 294 00:07:38,090 --> 00:07:41,139 HOUSE. 295 00:07:38,090 --> 00:07:41,139 "THE CROWN" IS A GOOD SHOW, 296 00:07:41,139 --> 00:07:44,250 BECAUSE IT SHOWS THEM FIGHTING 297 00:07:41,139 --> 00:07:44,250 AND PACKING TRUNKS AND DRAWING 298 00:07:44,250 --> 00:07:47,180 BATHS, AND YOU THINK, WELL, THE 299 00:07:44,250 --> 00:07:47,180 FAKE QUEEN ELIZABETH IS A HUMAN 300 00:07:47,180 --> 00:07:52,189 BEING, AND THE FAKE WINDSOR 301 00:07:47,180 --> 00:07:52,189 FAMILY HAS FUN DRAMA 302 00:07:52,189 --> 00:07:53,250 BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PRESS 303 00:07:52,189 --> 00:07:53,250 AND YOU SEE THE REAL-LIFE 304 00:07:53,250 --> 00:07:54,279 FAMILY, IT'S LIKE, YOU NEVER 305 00:07:53,250 --> 00:07:54,279 HEAR ABOUT ANY OF THEIR 306 00:07:54,279 --> 00:07:57,259 PROBLEMS 307 00:07:54,279 --> 00:07:57,259 >> Seth: I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH 308 00:07:57,259 --> 00:07:58,159 THAT 309 00:07:57,259 --> 00:07:58,159 >> ON WHAT GROUNDS 310 00:07:58,159 --> 00:08:05,250 >> Seth: THE MEDIA AND SOCIETY, 311 00:07:58,159 --> 00:08:05,250 AT LEAST HERE IN THE 312 00:08:05,250 --> 00:08:07,019 UNITED STATES, HAS AN APPETITE 313 00:08:05,250 --> 00:08:07,019 FOR GOSSIP AND HEARSAY ABOUT THE 314 00:08:07,019 --> 00:08:08,069 ENGLISH MONARCHY, BECAUSE 315 00:08:07,019 --> 00:08:08,069 SCANDALS AND PUBLIC FIGHTS ARE, 316 00:08:08,069 --> 00:08:10,259 IN FACT, FREQUENT. 317 00:08:08,069 --> 00:08:10,259 SARAH FERGUSON, THE RECENT 318 00:08:10,259 --> 00:08:13,050 DEEPLY TROUBLING ACCUSATIONS 319 00:08:10,259 --> 00:08:13,050 ABOUT PRINCE ANDREW AND 320 00:08:13,050 --> 00:08:15,069 JEFFREY EPSTEIN. 321 00:08:13,050 --> 00:08:15,069 AND THAT'S NOT EVEN TOUCHING THE 322 00:08:15,069 --> 00:08:18,060 GROSSLY PUBLIC AND ENDLESSLY 323 00:08:15,069 --> 00:08:18,060 DISGUSTING MARRIAGE, DIVORCE, 324 00:08:18,060 --> 00:08:21,250 AND DEATH OF PRINCESS DIANA OF 325 00:08:18,060 --> 00:08:21,250 WALES. 326 00:08:21,250 --> 00:08:24,100 >> YEAH. 327 00:08:21,250 --> 00:08:24,100 BUT YOU KNOW IT'S WEIRD, RIGHT, 328 00:08:24,100 --> 00:08:31,290 THAT MEGHAN AND HARRY LEFT 329 00:08:24,100 --> 00:08:31,290 LIKE, WHAT 330 00:08:31,290 --> 00:08:33,039 YOU THOUGHT ROLLING WITH THOSE 331 00:08:31,290 --> 00:08:33,039 DORKS IN CHURCH CLOTHES WAS 332 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:36,200 GOING TO BE FUN? 333 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:36,200 HAD YOU BEEN TOLD IT WAS NONSTOP 334 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,230 LAUGHS 335 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,230 BECAUSE YOU'RE THINKING OF THE 336 00:08:37,230 --> 00:08:39,269 MUNSTER'S, YOU SILLY GOOSE 337 00:08:37,230 --> 00:08:39,269 >> Seth: YOU'RE YELLING AT WHO 338 00:08:39,269 --> 00:08:41,179 HERE 339 00:08:39,269 --> 00:08:41,179 >> HER 340 00:08:41,179 --> 00:08:42,200 MEGHAN MARKLE. 341 00:08:41,179 --> 00:08:42,200 >> Seth: OKAY. 342 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,159 >> YEAH. 343 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,159 JUST THE FACT THAT SHE WANTED TO 344 00:08:44,159 --> 00:08:46,179 LEAVE THE ROYAL FAMILY BECAUSE 345 00:08:44,159 --> 00:08:46,179 THEY WERE LIKE, "BE PROPER AND 346 00:08:46,179 --> 00:08:48,210 SIT SO." 347 00:08:46,179 --> 00:08:48,210 THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A POINT IN 348 00:08:48,210 --> 00:08:51,129 MY LIFE WHERE I DID NOT KNOW 349 00:08:48,210 --> 00:08:51,129 THAT THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND WAS 350 00:08:51,129 --> 00:08:53,210 STRICT AND NOT FUN AT ALL. 351 00:08:51,129 --> 00:08:53,210 SO, DON'T MARRY INTO THE FAMILY 352 00:08:53,210 --> 00:08:56,240 WITH THE MOST JIVE-ASS BORING 353 00:08:53,210 --> 00:08:56,240 PEOPLE EVER AND THEN BE LIKE, 354 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,250 "OH, SHOULD WE PLAY NEVER HAVE I 355 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,250 EVER?" 356 00:09:00,250 --> 00:09:02,009 >> Seth: WELL, I MEAN, THERE IS 357 00:09:00,250 --> 00:09:02,009 A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONE'S 358 00:09:02,009 --> 00:09:06,000 EXPECTATIONS ABOUT A LIFE AND 359 00:09:02,009 --> 00:09:06,000 THE REALITY OF LIVING THAT LIFE. 360 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:14,080 >> YEAH. 361 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:14,080 >> Seth: SHE MAY HAVE FACTORED 362 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,139 IN WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, BUT 363 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,139 THEN REALIZED DAY TO DAY IT WAS 364 00:09:15,139 --> 00:09:16,009 SUFFOCATING. 365 00:09:15,139 --> 00:09:16,009 >> YEAH. 366 00:09:16,009 --> 00:09:16,200 YEAH 367 00:09:16,009 --> 00:09:16,200 THAT'S -- THAT'S TRUE. 368 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,230 OKAY 369 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,230 SO, FORGET -- I WANT TO TAKE - 370 00:09:17,230 --> 00:09:22,169 NOT TAKE IT OUT. 371 00:09:17,230 --> 00:09:22,169 DON'T REMOVE IT, BUT FORGET WHAT 372 00:09:22,169 --> 00:09:25,100 I SAID ABOUT MRS. MARKLE, THE 373 00:09:22,169 --> 00:09:25,100 DUCHESS. 374 00:09:25,100 --> 00:09:31,200 I DIDN'T MEAN TO CRITICIZE HER 375 00:09:25,100 --> 00:09:31,200 THE REAL DUNCE OF THIS FAIRYTALE 376 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,149 IS -- BA-RING, PRINCE HARRY HAS 377 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,149 ENTERED THE CHAT 378 00:09:34,149 --> 00:09:36,269 YOU DUMB GINGER. 379 00:09:34,149 --> 00:09:36,269 YOU LEAVE YOUR TITLE BECAUSE YOU 380 00:09:36,269 --> 00:09:41,149 DON'T LIKE YOUR 94-YEAR-OLD 381 00:09:36,269 --> 00:09:41,149 GRANDMA? 382 00:09:41,149 --> 00:09:43,139 THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF 383 00:09:41,149 --> 00:09:43,139 SOMETHING YOU WAIT OUT, GANGSTA. 384 00:09:43,139 --> 00:09:47,059 PRETTY SURE FATHER TIME WAS 385 00:09:43,139 --> 00:09:47,059 GOING TO SORT OUT THE CASE OF 386 00:09:47,059 --> 00:09:49,080 THE VERY OLD BUMMER WOMAN, WHO 387 00:09:47,059 --> 00:09:49,080 HAD 30 MONTHS TO LIVE. 388 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,059 TOO MEAN, TOO MEAN, TOO MEAN, 389 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,059 TOO MEAN 390 00:09:53,059 --> 00:09:59,289 ALSO, SETH, HARRY'S MOM WAS 391 00:09:53,059 --> 00:09:59,289 DIANA, AS IN PRINCESS DIANA, 392 00:09:59,289 --> 00:10:02,090 WHO, THOUGH THROUGH DIVORCE, SO 393 00:09:59,289 --> 00:10:02,090 IT'S DIFFERENT, ALSO WANTED TO 394 00:10:02,090 --> 00:10:05,169 ESCAPE THE HOUSE OF WINDSOR. 395 00:10:02,090 --> 00:10:05,169 >> ONE WOULD THINK PRINCE HARRY 396 00:10:05,169 --> 00:10:06,200 WOULD HAVE A REALISTIC 397 00:10:05,169 --> 00:10:06,200 PERSPECTIVE ON THE DIFFICULTIES 398 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:13,120 OF BEING A ROYAL 399 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:13,120 >> I LIKE -- YOU SAID THAT VERY 400 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,149 WELL 401 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,149 COULD I USE THAT FOR "ROYAL 402 00:10:15,149 --> 00:10:18,169 WATCH" 403 00:10:15,149 --> 00:10:18,169 OR I GUESS WE'RE -- YES, IT'S A 404 00:10:18,169 --> 00:10:25,230 HUGE DEAL THAT THEY LEFT 405 00:10:18,169 --> 00:10:25,230 AND THEY THOUGHT EVERYONE WAS 406 00:10:25,230 --> 00:10:27,190 GOING TO CARE -- MEGHAN AND 407 00:10:25,230 --> 00:10:27,190 HARRY -- AND THEN PEOPLE DID 408 00:10:27,190 --> 00:10:28,250 CARE, BUT THEN THE STORY TOTALLY 409 00:10:27,190 --> 00:10:28,250 GOT ECLIPSED, AND NOW PEOPLE 410 00:10:28,250 --> 00:10:29,279 TALK ABOUT IT LESS 411 00:10:28,250 --> 00:10:29,279 FIRST OFF, TWO FACTORS 412 00:10:29,279 --> 00:10:31,049 YOU HAD TRUMP BEING PRESIDENT, 413 00:10:29,279 --> 00:10:31,049 WHICH WAS A THING EVERY DAY, AND 414 00:10:31,049 --> 00:10:37,110 THEN COVID HIT IN MARCH. 415 00:10:31,049 --> 00:10:37,110 >> Seth: WELL, COVID WAS 416 00:10:37,110 --> 00:10:38,259 SPREADING AS EARLY AS DECEMBER 417 00:10:37,110 --> 00:10:38,259 >> AS EARLY AS DECEMBER. 418 00:10:38,259 --> 00:10:41,000 THIS IS THE SETH MEYERS NEWS 419 00:10:38,259 --> 00:10:41,000 I KNOW THAT, OKAY? 420 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,250 I'M NOT CHRONOLOGY SMART 421 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,250 I'M SMART WITH WORDS, SMART WITH 422 00:10:42,250 --> 00:10:49,149 LANGUAGE, YOU KNOW 423 00:10:42,250 --> 00:10:49,149 >> Seth: WELL, THEN SPELL THE 424 00:10:49,149 --> 00:10:51,139 WORD SHERIFF 425 00:10:49,149 --> 00:10:51,139 >> GET OUT OF HERE 426 00:10:51,139 --> 00:10:55,250 YOU KNOW, I CAN'T TONIGHT. 427 00:10:51,139 --> 00:10:55,250 OF ALL THE DIGS. 428 00:10:55,250 --> 00:10:59,200 EVERYTHING CLOSED IN MARCH 429 00:10:55,250 --> 00:10:59,200 BECAUSE OF COVID, OR MOST 430 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,049 THINGS, THINGS IN THE NYC DID -- 431 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,049 SOME THINGS DID. 432 00:11:02,049 --> 00:11:03,100 SO, THIS BIG STUNT IS SUDDENLY 433 00:11:02,049 --> 00:11:03,100 LIKE, "WHAT ARE YOU TALKING 434 00:11:03,100 --> 00:11:10,250 ABOUT? 435 00:11:03,100 --> 00:11:10,250 LIKE, WE'RE DEALING WITH A 436 00:11:10,250 --> 00:11:12,009 DISEASE HERE 437 00:11:10,250 --> 00:11:12,009 AND THEN THEY'RE LIKE, "THEY GET 438 00:11:12,009 --> 00:11:13,269 NOTHING. 439 00:11:12,009 --> 00:11:13,269 LOOK AT THIS 440 00:11:13,269 --> 00:11:18,009 LOOK AT THIS HEADLINE FROM 441 00:11:13,269 --> 00:11:18,009 "COSMOPOLITAN," "PRINCE HARRY 442 00:11:18,009 --> 00:11:20,279 AND MEGHAN MARKLE DIDN'T 443 00:11:18,009 --> 00:11:20,279 PUBLICLY WISH PRINCE CHARLES A 444 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:26,000 HAPPY BIRTHDAY." 445 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:26,000 AND THEN THE SUB HEADLINE UNDER 446 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,049 IT SAYS "IT'S POSSIBLE THAT 447 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,049 HARRY CHOSE TO WISH HIS FATHER 448 00:11:27,049 --> 00:11:29,179 HAPPY BIRTHDAY PRIVATELY." 449 00:11:27,049 --> 00:11:29,179 SOMEONE HAD TO TYPE THAT 450 00:11:29,179 --> 00:11:35,190 THAT SUCKS SO MUCH 451 00:11:29,179 --> 00:11:35,190 IT'S LITERALLY NOTHING 452 00:11:35,190 --> 00:11:37,210 >> Seth: I THINK, LIKE ME, YOU 453 00:11:35,190 --> 00:11:37,210 ARE A COMPLEX PERSON 454 00:11:37,210 --> 00:11:40,000 >> I APPRECIATE THAT, THANK YOU. 455 00:11:37,210 --> 00:11:40,000 >> Seth: BUT DESPITE YOUR 456 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,289 COMPLEXITY, YOU ARE SO SATISFIED 457 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,289 BY THE SIMPLEST THINGS 458 00:11:43,289 --> 00:11:45,080 >> AN EPITAPH IF I'VE EVER HEARD 459 00:11:43,289 --> 00:11:45,080 ONE. 460 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,100 THANK YOU FOR THAT 461 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,100 INDEED, I AM SIMPLE AND 462 00:11:47,100 --> 00:11:51,049 DIFFICULT. 463 00:11:47,100 --> 00:11:51,049 NEXT UP, THIS STORY SUCKED BUT 464 00:11:51,049 --> 00:11:54,070 WAS ALSO GREAT 465 00:11:51,049 --> 00:11:54,070 THIS IS -- READ THIS ONE 466 00:11:54,070 --> 00:11:57,210 "PRINCESS EUGENIE MOVES INTO 467 00:11:54,070 --> 00:11:57,210 FROGMORE COTTAGE 468 00:11:57,210 --> 00:12:03,190 PRINCE HARRY AND DUCHESS 469 00:11:57,210 --> 00:12:03,190 MEGHAN'S --" 470 00:12:03,190 --> 00:12:05,210 WHO DID WHAT AND WHERE NOW 471 00:12:03,190 --> 00:12:05,210 CAN YOU PICTURE THIS AT A DINNER 472 00:12:05,210 --> 00:12:08,220 PARTY? 473 00:12:05,210 --> 00:12:08,220 LIKE, "OH, PRINCESS EUGENIE, 474 00:12:08,220 --> 00:12:10,049 WHERE ARE YOU LIVING NOW?" 475 00:12:08,220 --> 00:12:10,049 AND SHE SAYS, "PLEASE, CALL ME 476 00:12:10,049 --> 00:12:12,039 EUG. 477 00:12:10,049 --> 00:12:12,039 I'M LIVING AT THE FROGGY DOGGY 478 00:12:12,039 --> 00:12:13,159 CASTLE." 479 00:12:12,039 --> 00:12:13,159 IT'S LIKE, GET OUT OF HERE WITH 480 00:12:13,159 --> 00:12:17,220 THAT [ BLEEP ] 481 00:12:13,159 --> 00:12:17,220 >> Seth: IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S 482 00:12:17,220 --> 00:12:18,259 A LOT OF MEDIA COVERAGE OF 483 00:12:17,220 --> 00:12:18,259 MEGHAN AND HARRY, AND THAT YOU 484 00:12:18,259 --> 00:12:24,080 READ ALL OF IT 485 00:12:18,259 --> 00:12:24,080 >> WELL, YOU CAN'T AVOID IT. 486 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,149 I MEAN, THE GOOGLE NEWS EVERY 487 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,149 DAY, IT SAYS "THESE STORIES FOR 488 00:12:25,149 --> 00:12:27,240 YOU. 489 00:12:25,149 --> 00:12:27,240 >> Seth: YEAH, BUT THOSE ARE 490 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:32,139 STORIES FOR YOU, BASED ON YOUR 491 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:32,139 SEARCHES 492 00:12:32,139 --> 00:12:33,159 LIKE, THOSE ARE NOT YOU, AS IN 493 00:12:32,139 --> 00:12:33,159 EVERYBODY. 494 00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:41,100 >> AS IN THE ROYAL YOU 495 00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:41,100 PUN INTENDED AND PLANNED 496 00:12:41,100 --> 00:12:43,279 BUT, WAIT, THE FOR YOU ON GOOGLE 497 00:12:41,100 --> 00:12:43,279 NEWS, YOU DON'T GET MY -- DOES 498 00:12:43,279 --> 00:12:47,129 ANYONE GET THE SAME ONES 499 00:12:43,279 --> 00:12:47,129 JASPER 500 00:12:47,129 --> 00:12:48,200 ALL RIGHT. 501 00:12:47,129 --> 00:12:48,200 >> Seth: NO, SEE, IT'S AN 502 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,000 ALGORITHM THAT PROVIDES THE 503 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,000 CONTENT YOU LIKE 504 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,259 LIKE, WHAT'S THE NUMBER ONE 505 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,259 STORY FOR YOU ON GOOGLE NEWS 506 00:12:51,259 --> 00:12:54,039 TODAY? 507 00:12:51,259 --> 00:12:54,039 >> TODAY WAS MULANEY Q&A 508 00:12:54,039 --> 00:12:59,210 PROVIDES LAUGHS, ALBEIT VIRTUAL 509 00:12:54,039 --> 00:12:59,210 ONES 510 00:12:59,210 --> 00:13:02,000 >> Seth: SEE, I DIDN'T GET THAT 511 00:12:59,210 --> 00:13:02,000 STORY. 512 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,259 >> OH, I'LL FORWARD IT TO YOU. 513 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,259 BUT IT'S LIKE A STUDENT 514 00:13:03,259 --> 00:13:05,049 REPORTER, SO, LIKE, THEY HAVE TO 515 00:13:03,259 --> 00:13:05,049 FIND SOMETHING TO CRITICIZE, YOU 516 00:13:05,049 --> 00:13:06,149 KNOW 517 00:13:05,049 --> 00:13:06,149 ANYWAY 518 00:13:06,149 --> 00:13:10,190 I THINK I'VE PROVED MY POINT, 519 00:13:06,149 --> 00:13:10,190 JUST NOW, BECAUSE ONLY I KNOW 520 00:13:10,190 --> 00:13:13,110 ABOUT MEGHAN AND HARRY BECAUSE 521 00:13:10,190 --> 00:13:13,110 OF AN ALGORITHM. 522 00:13:13,110 --> 00:13:17,279 SO IF IT WASN'T FOR COMBINING 523 00:13:13,110 --> 00:13:17,279 ALL MY PERSONAL DATA INTO ONE 524 00:13:17,279 --> 00:13:20,039 POOL, I WOULDN'T GET THAT 525 00:13:17,279 --> 00:13:20,039 COLLECTED, AND THEY WOULDN'T 526 00:13:20,039 --> 00:13:26,220 DEDUCE I WANT NEWS ON KINGS AND 527 00:13:20,039 --> 00:13:26,220 QUEENS 528 00:13:26,220 --> 00:13:27,259 HARRY AND MEGHAN WOULD BE A 529 00:13:26,220 --> 00:13:27,259 BIGGER STORY IF EVERYONE WAS 530 00:13:27,259 --> 00:13:29,200 LIKE ME, BUT EVERYONE IS NOT 531 00:13:27,259 --> 00:13:29,200 LIKE ME. 532 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,159 >> Seth: YOU THINK 533 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,159 >> I THINK 534 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:39,190 I THINK. 535 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:39,190 I GUESS WHAT I'M HERE TO ASK IS, 536 00:13:39,190 --> 00:13:42,269 SOMEWHAT RHETORICALLY -- IS IT 537 00:13:39,190 --> 00:13:42,269 AS INTERESTING TO YOU AS IT IS 538 00:13:42,269 --> 00:13:45,190 TO ME THAT THERE IS A ROYAL 539 00:13:42,269 --> 00:13:45,190 FAMILY 540 00:13:45,190 --> 00:13:53,049 LIKE, ENGLAND HAS A NATIONAL 541 00:13:45,190 --> 00:13:53,049 FAMILY THAT GETS DRESSED UP IN 542 00:13:53,049 --> 00:13:54,019 COSTUMES 543 00:13:53,049 --> 00:13:54,019 BUT ALSO, DO YOU SOMEHOW KIND OF 544 00:13:54,019 --> 00:13:55,080 WANT THE MONARCHY TO SURVIVE 545 00:13:54,019 --> 00:13:55,080 AND IS THAT WHY I LIKE "THE 546 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,139 CROWN" ON NETFLIX, BECAUSE IT'S 547 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,139 A THROWBACK TO A TIME THAT I DID 548 00:13:57,139 --> 00:14:00,289 LIVE THROUGH, BUT I WAS A BABY, 549 00:13:57,139 --> 00:14:00,289 OR I WAS A LITTLE KID? 550 00:14:00,289 --> 00:14:06,120 "THE CROWN" SHOWS HOW MISERABLE 551 00:14:00,289 --> 00:14:06,120 LIFE CAN BE AS A MONARCH 552 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,139 IT'S TRUE. 553 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,139 AND SO, IN THAT LIGHT, I CAN SEE 554 00:14:09,139 --> 00:14:12,190 WHY HARRY AND MEGHAN LEFT. 555 00:14:09,139 --> 00:14:12,190 SO, I GUESS IT'S NOT -- IT'S NOT 556 00:14:12,190 --> 00:14:22,070 WEIRD. 557 00:14:12,190 --> 00:14:22,070 IT'S OF NOTE, I GUESS, BUT IT'S 558 00:14:22,070 --> 00:14:28,120 UNDERSTANDABLE 559 00:14:22,070 --> 00:14:28,120 >> Seth: AND THERE IS PRESS 560 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,269 COVERAGE OF IT 561 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,269 >> YEAH. 562 00:14:30,269 --> 00:14:33,059 >> Seth: BUT NOT AS MUCH AS THE 563 00:14:30,269 --> 00:14:33,059 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION OR THE 564 00:14:33,059 --> 00:14:36,039 WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC 565 00:14:33,059 --> 00:14:36,039 >> YEAH. 566 00:14:36,039 --> 00:14:37,259 >> Seth: I DON'T MIND -- I NEVER 567 00:14:36,039 --> 00:14:37,259 MIND HAVING YOU OUT HERE 568 00:14:37,259 --> 00:14:43,110 BUT IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU WANT 569 00:14:37,259 --> 00:14:43,110 TO TALK THINGS LIKE THIS OUT, A 570 00:14:43,110 --> 00:14:45,059 PHONE CALL - 571 00:14:43,110 --> 00:14:45,059 >> A PHONE CALL MAYBE, YEAH, IS 572 00:14:45,059 --> 00:14:46,029 BETTER 573 00:14:45,059 --> 00:14:46,029 OKAY 574 00:14:46,029 --> 00:14:49,139 >> Seth: YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE 575 00:14:46,029 --> 00:14:49,139 WHAT OF THIS WE CAN USE, BUT, 576 00:14:49,139 --> 00:14:53,019 YOU KNOW, FAIR WARNING, IT MIGHT 577 00:14:49,139 --> 00:14:53,019 BE ONLINE ONLY - 578 00:14:53,019 --> 00:14:54,250 >> OH, YEAH, ONLINE ONLY 579 00:14:53,019 --> 00:14:54,250 THAT'S FINE WITH ME. 580 00:14:54,250 --> 00:14:58,029 I APPRECIATE THE TIME. 581 00:14:54,250 --> 00:14:58,029 I THINK WE'RE SHORT, BUT, I DO 582 00:14:58,029 --> 00:15:04,009 THANK YOU, AS ALWAYS, FOR GIVING 583 00:14:58,029 --> 00:15:04,009 ME THIS PLATFORM 584 00:15:04,009 --> 00:15:05,230 AND THE NEXT "ROYAL WATCH" WILL 585 00:15:04,009 --> 00:15:05,230 BE A LITTLE MORE FOCUSED 586 00:15:05,230 --> 00:15:12,000 JUST A LOT GOING ON WITH THOSE 587 00:15:05,230 --> 00:15:12,000 WINDSOR'S. 588 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,220 THANK YOU, SETH! 589 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,220 AND AS A STUDENT REPORTER ONCE 590 00:15:13,220 --> 00:15:21,179 WROTE ABOUT ME, THANK YOU FOR 591 00:15:13,220 --> 00:15:21,179 THE LAUGHS, ALBEIT VIRTUAL ONES. 592 00:15:21,179 --> 00:15:22,210 >> Seth: WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK 593 00:15:21,179 --> 00:15:22,210 WITH AMY ADAMS 594 00:15:22,210 --> 00:15:49,250 >> AND THEN ADAMS ADAMS. 595 00:15:22,210 --> 00:15:49,250 ♪ 596 00:15:49,250 --> 00:15:51,039 >> Seth: WE'RE SO HAPPY TO HAVE 597 00:15:49,250 --> 00:15:51,039 FRED ARMISEN BACK LEADING THE 598 00:15:51,039 --> 00:15:53,029 "8G BAND" THIS WEEK. 599 00:15:51,039 --> 00:15:53,029 MAKE SURE YOU'RE WATCHING FRED'S 600 00:15:53,029 --> 00:16:00,159 VERY FUNNY NEW SERIES 601 00:15:53,029 --> 00:16:00,159 "MOONBASE EIGHT," WHICH AIRS 602 00:16:00,159 --> 00:16:02,080 SUNDAYS ON SHOWTIME. 603 00:16:00,159 --> 00:16:02,080 HOW ARE YOU DOING, FRED? 604 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,240 THERE HE IS. 605 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,240 ANY BIG HOLIDAY PLANS, BUDDY 606 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,009 IF YOU DON'T WANT TO TELL ME, 607 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,009 YOU JUST DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME, 608 00:16:05,009 --> 00:16:10,019 OKAY 609 00:16:05,009 --> 00:16:10,019 PASSIVE AGGRESSION HAS TO STOP, 610 00:16:10,019 --> 00:16:15,110 BUDDY. 611 00:16:10,019 --> 00:16:15,110 OUR FIRST GUEST TONIGHT IS AN 612 00:16:15,110 --> 00:16:18,110 EMMY AND ACADEMY AWARD-NOMINATED 613 00:16:15,110 --> 00:16:18,110 ACTRESS YOU KNOW FROM FILMS SUCH 614 00:16:18,110 --> 00:16:19,139 AS "AMERICAN HUSTLE," "ARRIVAL" 615 00:16:18,110 --> 00:16:19,139 AND "VICE" AS WELL AS 616 00:16:19,139 --> 00:16:26,100 "SHARP OBJECTS." 617 00:16:19,139 --> 00:16:26,100 SHE STARS IN "HILLYBILLY ELEGY," 618 00:16:26,100 --> 00:16:28,259 WHICH IS IN SELECT THEATERS NOW 619 00:16:28,259 --> 00:16:29,279 AND CURRENTLY STREAMING ON 620 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:29,279 NETFLIX. 621 00:16:29,190 --> 00:16:29,279 LET'S TAKE A LOOK. 622 00:16:30,110 --> 00:16:32,070 >> I BEGGED THEM TO LET YOU STAY 623 00:16:30,110 --> 00:16:32,070 HERE 624 00:16:32,070 --> 00:16:35,250 >> WELL, NOBODY ASKED YOU TO 625 00:16:32,070 --> 00:16:35,250 I'M NOT A CHARITY CASE 626 00:16:35,250 --> 00:16:39,070 >> WHY AM I HERE, MOM? 627 00:16:35,250 --> 00:16:39,070 >> FEEL SUPERIOR, MAYBE? 628 00:16:39,070 --> 00:16:41,029 >> HOW CAN YOU BE SO [ BLEEP ] 629 00:16:39,070 --> 00:16:41,029 SELFISH? 630 00:16:41,029 --> 00:16:42,289 DO YOU EVEN CARE WHAT YOU DO TO 631 00:16:41,029 --> 00:16:42,289 LINDSEY? 632 00:16:42,289 --> 00:16:44,159 >> J.D., SHUT UP 633 00:16:42,289 --> 00:16:44,159 >> YOU LEAVE LINDSEY OUT OF 634 00:16:44,159 --> 00:16:45,179 THIS 635 00:16:44,159 --> 00:16:45,179 >> YOU DID THE SAME THING TO 636 00:16:45,179 --> 00:16:48,059 MAMA, MOM. 637 00:16:45,179 --> 00:16:48,059 YOU JUST TOOK AND TOOK FROM HER 638 00:16:48,059 --> 00:16:50,070 UNTIL SHE WAS PRACTICALLY 639 00:16:48,059 --> 00:16:50,070 BANKRUPT 640 00:16:50,070 --> 00:16:52,009 >> YEAH, SHE WAS A GOD DAMN 641 00:16:50,070 --> 00:16:52,009 SAINT. 642 00:16:52,009 --> 00:16:53,139 >> ALL SHE DID WAS BAIL YOU OUT, 643 00:16:52,009 --> 00:16:53,139 MOM! 644 00:16:53,139 --> 00:16:57,149 >> SINCE WHEN IT MATTERED! 645 00:16:53,139 --> 00:16:57,149 >> DID YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO BE 646 00:16:57,149 --> 00:16:59,250 DEAD, MOM, OR ARE YOU TOO LAZY 647 00:16:58,049 --> 00:16:59,250 TO TRY 648 00:16:59,139 --> 00:16:59,250 >> OH, I TRIED, PLENTY 649 00:17:04,049 --> 00:17:05,119 >> Seth: PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO 650 00:17:04,049 --> 00:17:05,119 THE SHOW, OUR FRIEND AMY ADAMS 651 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,269 HOW ARE YOU, AMY 652 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,269 >> I'M DOING WELL, HOW ARE YOU 653 00:17:06,269 --> 00:17:09,150 DOING? 654 00:17:06,269 --> 00:17:09,150 >> Seth: I'M HANGING IN THERE. 655 00:17:09,150 --> 00:17:12,099 I KNOW YOU'RE BACK IN L.A. NOW 656 00:17:09,150 --> 00:17:12,099 YOU JUST FINISHED SHOOTING UP IN 657 00:17:12,099 --> 00:17:16,190 ATLANTA, BUT HOW HAS THE WHOLE 658 00:17:12,099 --> 00:17:16,190 LAST NINE MONTHS BEEN FOR YOU? 659 00:17:16,190 --> 00:17:18,279 >> IT'S BEEN DIFFERENT 660 00:17:16,190 --> 00:17:18,279 IT'S BEEN OKAY, BUT I KNOW WE'RE 661 00:17:18,279 --> 00:17:25,180 ALL GOING THROUGH IT, YOU KNOW 662 00:17:18,279 --> 00:17:25,180 >> Seth: YOUR DAUGHTER IS 663 00:17:25,180 --> 00:17:29,130 10 YEARS OLD, IS THAT RIGHT? 664 00:17:25,180 --> 00:17:29,130 >> YEAH, SHE'S 10, AND SHE'S 665 00:17:29,130 --> 00:17:30,190 DOING A GREAT JOB ON HER ZOOM 666 00:17:29,130 --> 00:17:30,190 SCHOOL, WHICH TOOK A SECOND TO 667 00:17:30,190 --> 00:17:33,240 GET USED TO. 668 00:17:30,190 --> 00:17:33,240 >> Seth: BE HONEST, DO YOU THINK 669 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,059 THAT AFTER, LIKE, OVER THE LAST 670 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,059 NINE MONTHS, DO YOU THINK SHE 671 00:17:35,059 --> 00:17:38,210 LIKES HER PARENTS MORE OR LESS 672 00:17:35,059 --> 00:17:38,210 >> LESS. 673 00:17:38,210 --> 00:17:43,119 [ LAUGHTER ] 674 00:17:38,210 --> 00:17:43,119 >> Seth: WE APPRECIATE YOUR 675 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,029 HONESTY. 676 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,029 >> IT'S TRUE 677 00:17:47,029 --> 00:17:49,130 I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW 678 00:17:47,029 --> 00:17:49,130 WE HAVE A REALLY CLOSE 679 00:17:49,130 --> 00:17:51,089 RELATIONSHIP, BUT IT IS -- IT'S 680 00:17:49,130 --> 00:17:51,089 STRANGE BEING AT HOME WITH HER 681 00:17:51,089 --> 00:17:54,240 ALL DAY. 682 00:17:51,089 --> 00:17:54,240 I FEEL LIKE SHE'S GOTTEN AN 683 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,150 INSIGHT INTO US THAT SHE DIDN'T 684 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,150 HAVE BEFORE. 685 00:17:57,150 --> 00:18:01,069 SO, IN SOME WAYS, SHE'S PROBABLY 686 00:17:57,150 --> 00:18:01,069 MORE UNDERSTANDING, BUT SHE 687 00:18:01,069 --> 00:18:02,190 PROBABLY LIKES US LESS 688 00:18:01,069 --> 00:18:02,190 >> Seth: YEAH. 689 00:18:02,190 --> 00:18:05,180 I WONDER, TOO -- I MEAN, I FEEL 690 00:18:02,190 --> 00:18:05,180 AS THOUGH THAT'S A REALLY GOOD 691 00:18:05,180 --> 00:18:08,099 POINT, THAT THEY JUST SEE US 692 00:18:05,180 --> 00:18:08,099 MORE AND THEY REALIZE, "OH, YOU 693 00:18:08,099 --> 00:18:13,220 ARE JUST HUMAN BEINGS, TOO 694 00:18:08,099 --> 00:18:13,220 YOU'RE NOT ANYTHING SPECIAL. 695 00:18:13,220 --> 00:18:15,099 WE THOUGHT WHEN YOU WENT OFF TO 696 00:18:13,220 --> 00:18:15,099 THE OFFICE OR SOMETHING, YOU 697 00:18:15,099 --> 00:18:16,220 WERE DOING SOMETHING INCREDIBLE, 698 00:18:15,099 --> 00:18:16,220 AND NOW WE CAN SEE THAT'S NOT 699 00:18:16,220 --> 00:18:19,200 REALLY THE CASE. 700 00:18:16,220 --> 00:18:19,200 >> SHE ASKED ME, SHE'S LIKE, "IS 701 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,200 THIS WHAT YOU DO ALL DAY WHILE 702 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,200 I'M IN SCHOOL? 703 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,190 I'M LIKE, "NO, NO, NO, NO, I 704 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,190 ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, PUT CLOTHES 705 00:18:24,190 --> 00:18:26,190 ON." 706 00:18:24,190 --> 00:18:26,190 NOW I'M IN PAJAMAS, BUT -- 707 00:18:26,190 --> 00:18:29,059 >> Seth: I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU 708 00:18:26,190 --> 00:18:29,059 RAISED THE LEVEL OF DIFFICULTY 709 00:18:29,059 --> 00:18:31,019 AND GOT A NEW PUPPY IN THE 710 00:18:29,059 --> 00:18:31,019 MIDDLE OF ALL THIS 711 00:18:31,019 --> 00:18:34,009 >> WE DID. 712 00:18:31,019 --> 00:18:34,009 IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN A REALLY 713 00:18:34,009 --> 00:18:38,279 GREAT FOCUS. 714 00:18:34,009 --> 00:18:38,279 HER NAME'S MOCHI, AND SHE'S JUST 715 00:18:38,279 --> 00:18:43,059 THIS FLUFFY, WHITE, JUST SUCH A 716 00:18:38,279 --> 00:18:43,059 CUTIE. 717 00:18:43,059 --> 00:18:46,009 I DID REALIZE THAT HAVING -- I 718 00:18:43,059 --> 00:18:46,009 FORGOT HOW MUCH WORK A NEW PUPPY 719 00:18:46,009 --> 00:18:52,109 IS, BUT IT WAS A GOOD 720 00:18:46,009 --> 00:18:52,109 DISTRACTION. 721 00:18:52,109 --> 00:18:54,130 >> Seth: NOW, I'M ASSUMING, 722 00:18:52,109 --> 00:18:54,130 AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE TIME WE'RE 723 00:18:54,130 --> 00:18:55,240 LIVING IN, MOCHI PROBABLY 724 00:18:54,130 --> 00:18:55,240 DOESN'T SEE PEOPLE, OTHER THAN 725 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,089 THE THREE OF YOU 726 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,089 >> YEAH, MOCHI, I'M DISCOVERING, 727 00:18:58,089 --> 00:19:00,160 HAS A LITTLE, LIKE, SOCIAL 728 00:18:58,089 --> 00:19:00,160 ANXIETY, SO SHE'S BEEN SEEING 729 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,220 MORE PEOPLE OF LATE AND SHE'S 730 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,220 NOT REALLY SURE HOW TO RESPOND 731 00:19:01,220 --> 00:19:08,170 TO THEM. 732 00:19:01,220 --> 00:19:08,170 SHE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND PEOPLE 733 00:19:08,170 --> 00:19:09,259 OTHER THAN THE THREE OF US, SO 734 00:19:08,170 --> 00:19:09,259 RESOCIALIZING HER IS GOING TO BE 735 00:19:09,259 --> 00:19:16,160 REALLY INTERESTING, YEAH 736 00:19:09,259 --> 00:19:16,160 >> Seth: YOU HAVE OTHER DOGS AS 737 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,250 WELL, OR IS MOCHI THE ONLY ONE 738 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,250 >> WE HAVE TWO OTHER DOGS, SADIE 739 00:19:18,250 --> 00:19:21,240 AND BOO. 740 00:19:18,250 --> 00:19:21,240 AND WE HAD ANOTHER DOG THAT 741 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:26,240 PASSED AWAY LAST SUMMER, SO. 742 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:26,240 >> Seth: GOTCHA. 743 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,150 ARE THE OTHER DOGS TAKING TO 744 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,150 MOCHI? 745 00:19:28,150 --> 00:19:30,109 ARE THEY HELPFUL INFLUENCES? 746 00:19:28,150 --> 00:19:30,109 >> IT TOOK A SECOND. 747 00:19:30,109 --> 00:19:37,000 BOO, LIKE, WENT ON A HUNGER 748 00:19:30,109 --> 00:19:37,000 STRIKE 749 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,119 SHE DID NOT EAT FOR ABOUT FOUR 750 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,119 DAYS 751 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,000 WE WERE GETTING A LITTLE WORRIED 752 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,000 THAT SHE WAS JUST NOT HAPPY 753 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,130 ABOUT THE WHOLE SITUATION. 754 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,130 BUT THEY'VE COME AROUND, AND NOW 755 00:19:44,130 --> 00:19:48,039 THEY'RE REALLY GOOD FRIENDS. 756 00:19:44,130 --> 00:19:48,039 AND, LIKE, MY HUSBAND POSTED 757 00:19:48,039 --> 00:19:49,109 SOMETHING ON INSTAGRAM OF THEM 758 00:19:48,039 --> 00:19:49,109 JUST LIKE CANOODLING ON THE 759 00:19:49,109 --> 00:19:53,279 COUCH FOR HOURS. 760 00:19:49,109 --> 00:19:53,279 THEY, LIKE, HUG EACH OTHER AND 761 00:19:53,279 --> 00:19:57,029 CHEW ON EACH OTHER'S FACE. 762 00:19:53,279 --> 00:19:57,029 >> Seth: THAT'S ALL YOU CAN ASK 763 00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:59,079 FOR IN THE END 764 00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:59,079 I WANT TO ASK ABOUT 765 00:19:59,079 --> 00:20:00,180 "HILLYBILLY ELEGY," BUT I ALSO 766 00:19:59,079 --> 00:20:00,180 WANT TO ASK ABOUT A FILM YOU 767 00:20:00,180 --> 00:20:05,289 FINISHED LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE, 768 00:20:00,180 --> 00:20:05,289 CALLED "WOMAN IN THE WINDOW," 769 00:20:05,289 --> 00:20:07,289 WHICH IS ABOUT A WOMAN IN 770 00:20:05,289 --> 00:20:07,289 NEW YORK WITH SEVERE 771 00:20:07,289 --> 00:20:10,269 AGORAPHOBIA, WHO BASICALLY LIVES 772 00:20:07,289 --> 00:20:10,269 IN HER OWN APARTMENT AFRAID TO 773 00:20:10,269 --> 00:20:13,119 GO OUTSIDE 774 00:20:10,269 --> 00:20:13,119 IT MUST BE STRANGE TO KNOW THAT 775 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,079 YOU HAVE FINISHED A THING FROM 776 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,079 THE PAST THAT IS NOW SO MUCH 777 00:20:15,079 --> 00:20:18,029 ABOUT THE PRESENT. 778 00:20:15,079 --> 00:20:18,029 >> I KNOW. 779 00:20:18,029 --> 00:20:20,250 I FILMED IT, LIKE, TWO YEARS 780 00:20:18,029 --> 00:20:20,250 AGO, TOO, SO IT WAS A TOTALLY 781 00:20:20,250 --> 00:20:23,099 DIFFERENT TIME 782 00:20:20,250 --> 00:20:23,099 AND NOW I'M JUST -- I'LL BE 783 00:20:23,099 --> 00:20:29,170 CURIOUS TO SEE IF PEOPLE WANT 784 00:20:23,099 --> 00:20:29,170 TO, LIKE, BE IN THAT APARTMENT 785 00:20:29,170 --> 00:20:33,250 WITH HER OR IF THEY'RE LIKE, 786 00:20:29,170 --> 00:20:33,250 IT'S TOO REAL, YOU KNOW? 787 00:20:33,250 --> 00:20:35,079 ALTHOUGH SHE HAS A VERY NICE 788 00:20:33,250 --> 00:20:35,079 TOWN HOME IN THIS FILM, SO 789 00:20:35,079 --> 00:20:42,049 I WANTED TO LIVE THERE, 790 00:20:35,079 --> 00:20:42,049 ACTUALLY 791 00:20:42,049 --> 00:20:45,059 >> Seth: THAT IS -- YEAH, IT'S 792 00:20:42,049 --> 00:20:45,059 STILL NICE TO -- NO MATTER HOW 793 00:20:45,059 --> 00:20:48,029 BAD A THING PEOPLE ARE GOING 794 00:20:45,059 --> 00:20:48,029 THROUGH ON TV, IF THEY HAVE A 795 00:20:48,029 --> 00:20:49,130 NICE PIECE OF REAL ESTATE IN 796 00:20:48,029 --> 00:20:49,130 NEW YORK, YOU CAN'T HELP BUT 797 00:20:49,130 --> 00:20:53,000 THINKING, "MAN, I WISH I COULD 798 00:20:49,130 --> 00:20:53,000 SWITCH PLACES. 799 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:59,170 >> LISTEN, I COULD QUARANTINE IN 800 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:59,170 THAT TOWN HOME, YEAH 801 00:20:59,170 --> 00:21:00,259 NO, IT'S -- IT WILL BE 802 00:20:59,170 --> 00:21:00,259 INTERESTING. 803 00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:04,079 I'LL BE CURIOUS TO SEE HOW 804 00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:04,079 PEOPLE RESPOND TO THAT WHEN IT 805 00:21:04,079 --> 00:21:08,170 COMES OUT, LIKE, IF THAT CREATES 806 00:21:04,079 --> 00:21:08,170 A FEELING OF CLAUSTROPHOBIA THAT 807 00:21:08,170 --> 00:21:10,220 THEY WANT TO VISIT 808 00:21:08,170 --> 00:21:10,220 IT WILL BE FUN TO SEE. 809 00:21:10,220 --> 00:21:13,170 >> Seth: WELL, IT'S INTERESTING 810 00:21:10,220 --> 00:21:13,170 BECAUSE YOU BALANCE IT AGAINST 811 00:21:13,170 --> 00:21:15,099 THE OTHER KINDS OF THINGS YOU 812 00:21:13,170 --> 00:21:15,099 SEE NOW, WHICH IS PEOPLE IN 813 00:21:15,099 --> 00:21:17,019 CLOSE QUARTERS WITHOUT MASKS, 814 00:21:15,099 --> 00:21:17,019 WHICH IS SORT OF THE OPPOSITE. 815 00:21:17,019 --> 00:21:18,180 IT MIGHT BE NICE FOR PEOPLE TO 816 00:21:17,019 --> 00:21:18,180 SAY "OH, I LIKE THIS ONE," - 817 00:21:18,180 --> 00:21:21,000 >> YEAH. 818 00:21:18,180 --> 00:21:21,000 >> Seth: -- BECAUSE I KNOW THAT 819 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,019 WHATEVER SHE'S GOING THROUGH, AT 820 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,019 LEAST SHE'S KEEPING HERSELF 821 00:21:23,019 --> 00:21:25,180 SOCIALLY DISTANCED 822 00:21:23,019 --> 00:21:25,180 >> THAT'S TRUE 823 00:21:25,180 --> 00:21:26,230 I WAS WATCHING 824 00:21:25,180 --> 00:21:26,230 "THE BIG BANG THEORY," AND I WAS 825 00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:27,289 LIKE, "OH, REMEMBER WHEN WE 826 00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:27,289 COULD LIKE, EAT WITH FRIENDS IN 827 00:21:27,289 --> 00:21:35,289 OUR PLACE? 828 00:21:27,289 --> 00:21:35,289 ALL THE EATING ON THE SHOW 829 00:21:35,289 --> 00:21:37,109 >> Seth: I WANT TO TALK TO YOU 830 00:21:35,289 --> 00:21:37,109 ABOUT "HILLYBILLY ELEGY. 831 00:21:37,109 --> 00:21:38,079 WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A QUICK 832 00:21:37,109 --> 00:21:38,079 BREAK. 833 00:21:38,079 --> 00:21:41,230 AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH 834 00:21:38,079 --> 00:21:41,230 MORE FROM AMY ADAMS. 835 00:21:41,230 --> 00:22:01,069 ♪ 836 00:21:41,230 --> 00:22:01,069 >> Seth: WELCOME BACK TO 837 00:22:01,069 --> 00:22:02,210 "LATE NIGHT. 838 00:22:01,069 --> 00:22:02,210 WE'RE HERE WITH AMY ADAMS. 839 00:22:02,210 --> 00:22:04,130 BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I HAVE READ 840 00:22:02,210 --> 00:22:04,130 THAT YOU PICK UP HOBBIES AND 841 00:22:04,130 --> 00:22:09,140 MAYBE DROP THEM FAIRLY QUICKLY 842 00:22:04,130 --> 00:22:09,140 THIS WAS A TIME THAT A LOT OF 843 00:22:09,140 --> 00:22:10,099 PEOPLE WERE AT LEAST TRYING NEW 844 00:22:09,140 --> 00:22:10,099 THINGS 845 00:22:10,099 --> 00:22:13,250 DID YOU -- WAS THERE ANYTHING 846 00:22:10,099 --> 00:22:13,250 THAT STUCK 847 00:22:13,250 --> 00:22:15,160 >> NO, BUT I DID PICK UP A LOT 848 00:22:13,250 --> 00:22:15,160 OF HOBBIES 849 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,150 THEY JUST DIDN'T STICK 850 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,150 I'M A BIG FAN OF STRING 851 00:22:16,150 --> 00:22:20,160 INSTRUMENTS, APPARENTLY. 852 00:22:16,150 --> 00:22:20,160 I TRIED THE UKELELE, THE 853 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:25,099 MANDOLIN 854 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:25,099 MY HUSBAND GOT ME THIS BEAUTIFUL 855 00:22:25,099 --> 00:22:27,259 CELLO FOR CHRISTMAS A COUPLE 856 00:22:25,099 --> 00:22:27,259 YEARS AGO. 857 00:22:27,259 --> 00:22:29,150 CAN'T PLAY THE CELLO 858 00:22:27,259 --> 00:22:29,150 STILL HAVEN'T TRIED TO PLAY THE 859 00:22:29,150 --> 00:22:32,230 CELLO. 860 00:22:29,150 --> 00:22:32,230 I DID TRY THE UKELELE. 861 00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:36,140 I TRIED TO LEARN "PARTY FAVOR" 862 00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:36,140 BY BILLIE EILISH 863 00:22:36,140 --> 00:22:38,069 >> Seth: UH HUH? 864 00:22:36,140 --> 00:22:38,069 >> AND MY DAUGHTER WAS LIKE, 865 00:22:38,069 --> 00:22:41,279 "YEAH, YOU CAN'T -- YOU'RE NOT 866 00:22:38,069 --> 00:22:41,279 ALLOWED TO SING BILLIE EILISH. 867 00:22:41,279 --> 00:22:43,079 >> Seth: I WOULD SAY, THE ORDER 868 00:22:41,279 --> 00:22:43,079 SEEMS TO BE UKELELE FIRST, NOT 869 00:22:43,079 --> 00:22:46,000 CELLO FIRST. 870 00:22:43,079 --> 00:22:46,000 THAT SEEMS LIKE AN AMBITIOUS 871 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,059 PRESENT TO BUY SOMEBODY. 872 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,059 >> WELL, I LOVE THE SOUND OF THE 873 00:22:49,059 --> 00:22:54,029 CELLO AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, HE 874 00:22:49,059 --> 00:22:54,029 WAS BEING KIND IN SUPPORTING MY 875 00:22:54,029 --> 00:22:59,000 LOVE OF STRING INSTRUMENTS THAT 876 00:22:54,029 --> 00:22:59,000 I CAN'T PLAY 877 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,059 >> Seth: YEAH, THAT DEFINITELY 878 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,059 SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING YOU RETURN 879 00:23:01,059 --> 00:23:02,180 AND YOU'RE LIKE, "DO YOU HAVE, 880 00:23:01,059 --> 00:23:02,180 LIKE CDs WERE PEOPLE PLAY CELLO 881 00:23:02,180 --> 00:23:06,200 THAT I COULD JUST PUT ON?" 882 00:23:02,180 --> 00:23:06,200 >> THE THING IS, I STILL BELIEVE 883 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,150 I'M GOING TO LEARN ALL OF THIS, 884 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,150 SETH 885 00:23:08,150 --> 00:23:09,230 I STILL REALLY BELIEVE THAT I'M 886 00:23:08,150 --> 00:23:09,230 GOING TO BE PROFICIENT AT STRING 887 00:23:09,230 --> 00:23:13,230 INSTRUMENTS. 888 00:23:09,230 --> 00:23:13,230 I DON'T KNOW WHY 889 00:23:13,230 --> 00:23:15,250 >> Seth: I LIKE THAT 890 00:23:13,230 --> 00:23:15,250 I THINK WE NEED MORE SORT OF 891 00:23:15,250 --> 00:23:18,039 SELF-BELIEF LIKE THAT, SO I'M 892 00:23:15,250 --> 00:23:18,039 GOING TO JUMP ON BOARD AS WELL 893 00:23:18,039 --> 00:23:19,059 AND LET'S SET A TIME 894 00:23:18,039 --> 00:23:19,059 LET'S SAY THREE YEARS FROM NOW, 895 00:23:19,059 --> 00:23:26,009 YOU'LL COME ON THE SHOW AND DO 896 00:23:19,059 --> 00:23:26,009 CELLO FOR US 897 00:23:26,009 --> 00:23:29,089 >> OKAY. 898 00:23:26,009 --> 00:23:29,089 I CAN PLAY, LIKE SEVEN CHORDS ON 899 00:23:29,089 --> 00:23:30,210 THE GUITAR RIGHT NOW, SO 900 00:23:29,089 --> 00:23:30,210 HOPEFULLY, MAYBE I'LL JUST LEARN 901 00:23:30,210 --> 00:23:34,160 THOSE SEVEN NOTES ON THE CELLO 902 00:23:30,210 --> 00:23:34,160 WE CAN COME UP WITH A SONG OR 903 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,180 SOMETHING. 904 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,180 >> Seth: THAT SOUNDS LIKE A 905 00:23:37,180 --> 00:23:39,000 PLAN 906 00:23:37,180 --> 00:23:39,000 HEY, SO, "HILLBILLY ELEGY" IS 907 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,029 THIS BOOK BY J.D. VANCE. 908 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,029 AND IT'S SORT OF HIS PERSONAL 909 00:23:40,029 --> 00:23:42,019 HISTORY. 910 00:23:40,029 --> 00:23:42,019 HE WAS INVOLVED IN THE MAKING OF 911 00:23:42,019 --> 00:23:46,069 THIS FILM AND AS WERE -- AS WAS 912 00:23:42,019 --> 00:23:46,069 HIS MOTHER 913 00:23:46,069 --> 00:23:49,210 DOES IT HAVE -- I IMAGINE IT 914 00:23:46,069 --> 00:23:49,210 MUST HAVE AN EXTRA SENSE OF 915 00:23:49,210 --> 00:23:52,259 RESPONSIBILITY WHEN YOU PLAY A 916 00:23:49,210 --> 00:23:52,259 REAL PERSON WHO'S ALSO NEARBY. 917 00:23:52,259 --> 00:23:58,009 >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 918 00:23:52,259 --> 00:23:58,009 SHE CAME TO SET A COUPLE OF 919 00:23:58,009 --> 00:24:00,099 TIMES. 920 00:23:58,009 --> 00:24:00,099 LUCKILY, THROUGH SOME OF THE 921 00:24:00,099 --> 00:24:02,089 SCENES THAT WEREN'T AS HEAVY 922 00:24:00,099 --> 00:24:02,089 THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY HARD 923 00:24:02,089 --> 00:24:06,099 TO FILM. 924 00:24:02,089 --> 00:24:06,099 I DO, I HAVE A REALLY HUGE SENSE 925 00:24:06,099 --> 00:24:08,059 OF RESPONSIBILITY IN PLAYING 926 00:24:06,099 --> 00:24:08,059 SOMEBODY THAT'S OUT THERE, AND I 927 00:24:08,059 --> 00:24:13,069 KNOW SHE'S GOING TO BE WATCHING 928 00:24:08,059 --> 00:24:13,069 THIS 929 00:24:13,069 --> 00:24:14,099 BUT SHE WAS INCREDIBLY 930 00:24:13,069 --> 00:24:14,099 COURAGEOUS AND SHE'S DOING 931 00:24:14,099 --> 00:24:15,200 REALLY WELL, SO THAT HELPS 932 00:24:14,099 --> 00:24:15,200 BUT IT'S INTIMIDATING. 933 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:24,140 I MEAN, LIKE, YEAH, EVERYTHING 934 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:24,140 ABOUT IT, LIKE, COMING UP WITH 935 00:24:24,140 --> 00:24:25,089 THE LOOK 936 00:24:24,140 --> 00:24:25,089 SHE WAS GOING THROUGH A REALLY 937 00:24:25,089 --> 00:24:26,130 HARD TIME, TOO, IN THE FILM. 938 00:24:25,089 --> 00:24:26,130 SO AGAIN, I'M JUST REALLY 939 00:24:26,130 --> 00:24:35,130 GRATEFUL FOR HER PARTICIPATION 940 00:24:26,130 --> 00:24:35,130 >> Seth: AND YOU GOT TO CO-STAR 941 00:24:35,130 --> 00:24:37,259 WITH GLENN CLOSE AND THERE'S 942 00:24:35,130 --> 00:24:37,259 OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF HAIR AND 943 00:24:37,259 --> 00:24:39,029 MAKEUP AND WARDROBE IN THIS FILM 944 00:24:37,259 --> 00:24:39,029 THAT MAKES YOU BOTH LOOK VERY 945 00:24:39,029 --> 00:24:40,000 DIFFERENT FROM HOW WE'RE USED TO 946 00:24:39,029 --> 00:24:40,000 SEEING YOU 947 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,289 BUT AT THE END OF THE FILM, IT 948 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,289 SHOWS, I MEAN, THE WARDROBE 949 00:24:41,289 --> 00:24:43,049 DEPARTMENT, THE MAKEUP 950 00:24:41,289 --> 00:24:43,049 DEPARTMENT, THE HAIR DEPARTMENT 951 00:24:43,049 --> 00:24:46,140 DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB. 952 00:24:43,049 --> 00:24:46,140 YOU GUYS REALLY HIT THE TARGET 953 00:24:46,140 --> 00:24:48,130 >> THANK YOU 954 00:24:46,140 --> 00:24:48,130 GLENN, WHEN YOU SEE THE PICTURE 955 00:24:48,130 --> 00:24:52,009 OF GLENN AND MAMA, IT IS 956 00:24:48,130 --> 00:24:52,009 UNCANNY. 957 00:24:52,009 --> 00:24:53,130 THEY LOOK SO SIMILAR 958 00:24:52,009 --> 00:24:53,130 AND -- THEIR MANNERISMS AND 959 00:24:53,130 --> 00:24:55,160 EVERYTHING 960 00:24:53,130 --> 00:24:55,160 SHE JUST NAILED IT 961 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,210 SHE'S AMAZING. 962 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,210 I LOVED WORKING WITH HER AND 963 00:24:58,210 --> 00:25:02,160 GETTING TO KNOW HER. 964 00:24:58,210 --> 00:25:02,160 SHE'S A WONDERFUL WOMAN. 965 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,210 >> Seth: I HAVE NOT -- IT WAS -- 966 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,210 I MOVED FROM A FEW YEARS AGO AND 967 00:25:06,210 --> 00:25:09,029 IT WAS HEARTBREAKING BECAUSE I 968 00:25:06,210 --> 00:25:09,029 USED TO LIVE IN THE SAME 969 00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:11,019 APARTMENT BUILDING IN NEW YORK 970 00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:11,019 AS GLENN CLOSE 971 00:25:11,019 --> 00:25:12,059 AND SEEING GLENN ON THE ELEVATOR 972 00:25:11,019 --> 00:25:12,059 WAS JUST THE JACKPOT OF 973 00:25:12,059 --> 00:25:15,250 JACKPOTS 974 00:25:12,059 --> 00:25:15,250 DID YOU KNOW HER PARTICULARLY 975 00:25:15,250 --> 00:25:18,150 WELL BEFORE YOU STARTED DOING 976 00:25:15,250 --> 00:25:18,150 THE FILM 977 00:25:18,150 --> 00:25:21,269 >> I DIDN'T KNOW HER VERY WELL 978 00:25:18,150 --> 00:25:21,269 WE'RE REALLY LUCKY BECAUSE WE 979 00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:24,279 GOT TO STAY IN THIS BED AND 980 00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:24,279 BREAKFAST WHEN WE WERE SHOOTING 981 00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:28,069 IN CLAYTON, GEORGIA. 982 00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:28,069 I HAVE THE MUG FROM IT HERE, 983 00:25:28,069 --> 00:25:29,160 WHICH I'VE BEEN DRINKING WATER 984 00:25:28,069 --> 00:25:29,160 FROM 985 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,140 IT'S MY FAVORITE MUG 986 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,140 >> Seth: THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL MUG. 987 00:25:32,140 --> 00:25:34,200 >> YEAH I THINK SO, TOO. 988 00:25:32,140 --> 00:25:34,200 IT'S FROM THE BEACHWOOD BED AND 989 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:39,119 BREAKFAST. 990 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:39,119 AND THERE'S LIKE WINE. 991 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,210 THEY HAVE WINE THERE, TOO. 992 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,210 SO WE WOULD SIT WITH THE WINE 993 00:25:40,210 --> 00:25:45,119 AND HAVE COFFEE AND YOU KNOW 994 00:25:40,210 --> 00:25:45,119 >> VERY NATURAL. 995 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,119 YOU CAN TELL THE WAY YOU'RE 996 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,119 DRINKING FROM IT THAT IT'S NOT 997 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,259 YOUR FIRST SIP OF ANYTHING FROM 998 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,259 IT 999 00:25:50,259 --> 00:25:53,009 >> THIS IS WHY I WAS NEVER GOOD 1000 00:25:50,259 --> 00:25:53,009 AT COMMERCIALS, SETH 1001 00:25:53,009 --> 00:25:54,269 IT'S LIKE, THERE'S THINGS WE'RE 1002 00:25:53,009 --> 00:25:54,269 JUST NOT GOOD AT 1003 00:25:54,269 --> 00:26:01,170 I'M BAD WITH PROPS 1004 00:25:54,269 --> 00:26:01,170 >> Seth: YEAH. 1005 00:26:01,170 --> 00:26:03,259 IT'S TRUE. 1006 00:26:01,170 --> 00:26:03,259 I THINK, WITH YOU, ESPECIALLY IN 1007 00:26:03,259 --> 00:26:05,039 A COMMERCIAL -- MY EARLY DAYS, I 1008 00:26:03,259 --> 00:26:05,039 HAD A FEW COMMERCIAL AUDITIONS, 1009 00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:07,150 AND WHEN THEY PUT A PROP IN THE 1010 00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:07,150 MIX -- I MEAN, I'M NOT A GOOD 1011 00:26:07,150 --> 00:26:10,200 ACTOR TO BEGIN WITH, BUT IT 1012 00:26:07,150 --> 00:26:10,200 REALLY, LIKE, CUT MY TALENT IN 1013 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,089 HALF 1014 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,089 >> I'M BAD WITH PROPS. 1015 00:26:12,089 --> 00:26:15,109 EVERY TIME THEY'RE LIKE, YOU'RE 1016 00:26:12,089 --> 00:26:15,109 GOING TO WALK IN, DROP OFF YOUR 1017 00:26:15,109 --> 00:26:16,180 PURSE AND YOU'RE GOING TO DUMP 1018 00:26:15,109 --> 00:26:16,180 IT -- I'M LIKE, "OOH, OKAY, HOW 1019 00:26:16,180 --> 00:26:19,019 MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE TODAY?" 1020 00:26:16,180 --> 00:26:19,019 [ LAUGHTER ] 1021 00:26:19,019 --> 00:26:21,079 >> Seth: DO YOU LIKE -- BECAUSE 1022 00:26:19,019 --> 00:26:21,079 I THINK SOME ACTORS REALLY LIKE 1023 00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:23,000 TO EAT IN SCENES BECAUSE I THINK 1024 00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:23,000 IT TAKES THEM OUT OF THEIR HEAD. 1025 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,250 ARE YOU A GOOD EATING ACTOR? 1026 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,250 >> HORRIBLE. 1027 00:26:27,250 --> 00:26:29,269 >> Seth: REALLY? 1028 00:26:27,250 --> 00:26:29,269 >> I DON'T KNOW IF I JUST HAVE A 1029 00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:31,059 DRY MOUTH, BUT I JUST ALWAYS END 1030 00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:31,059 UP WITH LIKE -- BUT I CAN'T GET 1031 00:26:31,059 --> 00:26:34,049 THE, LIKE, THE FOOD RATIO, AND 1032 00:26:31,059 --> 00:26:34,049 IT ALWAYS ENDS UP GETTING IN THE 1033 00:26:34,049 --> 00:26:41,140 WAY OF THE DIALOGUE, AND I'M 1034 00:26:34,049 --> 00:26:41,140 JUST REALLY BAD AT IT. 1035 00:26:41,140 --> 00:26:42,150 I'VE SEEN PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY 1036 00:26:41,140 --> 00:26:42,150 GOOD EATERS. 1037 00:26:42,150 --> 00:26:44,000 I'VE WORKED WITH A COUPLE. 1038 00:26:42,150 --> 00:26:44,000 >> Seth: YEAH, I FEEL LIKE 1039 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,230 BRAD PITT COULD DO LIKE A 1040 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,230 "TED TALK" ON HOW TO EAT AND ACT 1041 00:26:45,230 --> 00:26:48,180 AT THE SAME TIME, OR ONE OF 1042 00:26:45,230 --> 00:26:48,180 THOSE "AMERICAN MASTERS" SERIES. 1043 00:26:48,180 --> 00:26:52,089 I THINK ANYBODY -- I WOULD WATCH 1044 00:26:48,180 --> 00:26:52,089 THAT 1045 00:26:52,089 --> 00:26:53,190 >> YEAH, YOU KNOW HOW THEY TEACH 1046 00:26:52,089 --> 00:26:53,190 LIKE STAGECRAFT, WHERE YOU LEARN 1047 00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:57,069 HOW TO FIGHT ON STAGE OR - 1048 00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:57,069 >> Seth: YEAH. 1049 00:26:57,069 --> 00:26:58,130 >> YEAH, THAT WOULD BE AN 1050 00:26:57,069 --> 00:26:58,130 IMPORTANT ONE, I THINK, THAT 1051 00:26:58,130 --> 00:27:01,220 I -- 1052 00:26:58,130 --> 00:27:01,220 >> Seth: YEAH, BECAUSE LIKE WHEN 1053 00:27:01,220 --> 00:27:02,269 BRAD PITT'S EATING A SANDWICH IN 1054 00:27:01,220 --> 00:27:02,269 A SCENE, YOU'RE JUST NEVER 1055 00:27:02,269 --> 00:27:06,289 WORRIED HE'S GOING TO SPIT 1056 00:27:02,269 --> 00:27:06,289 LETTUCE ON ANYBODY 1057 00:27:06,289 --> 00:27:08,079 >> NO. 1058 00:27:06,289 --> 00:27:08,079 >> Seth: HE JUST SEEMS VERY IN 1059 00:27:08,079 --> 00:27:11,119 CONTROL OF IT. 1060 00:27:08,079 --> 00:27:11,119 >> IF I'M EATING, YOU'RE JUST 1061 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,190 SURE, YOU'RE LIKE, "I'M NOT SURE 1062 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,190 WHERE IT ENDS UP, BUT IT'S NOT 1063 00:27:12,190 --> 00:27:15,119 GOOD." 1064 00:27:12,190 --> 00:27:15,119 [ LAUGHTER ] 1065 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,140 >> Seth: I WILL SAY, I'VE SEEN 1066 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,140 FILMS WITH YOU, WHERE YOU START 1067 00:27:18,140 --> 00:27:20,190 TO EAT, I JUST TURN IT OFF 1068 00:27:18,140 --> 00:27:20,190 FILMS I'M ENJOYING 1069 00:27:20,190 --> 00:27:22,150 >> I'M TRYING TO THINK IF THERE 1070 00:27:20,190 --> 00:27:22,150 ARE FILMS. 1071 00:27:22,150 --> 00:27:24,170 "JULIE AND JULIA," SHE EATS A 1072 00:27:22,150 --> 00:27:24,170 LOT, BUT "CHRISTMAS SCENE," I 1073 00:27:24,170 --> 00:27:28,279 WAS A MASTER EATER IN THAT, SO 1074 00:27:24,170 --> 00:27:28,279 >> Seth: THAT'S A LOT. 1075 00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:30,140 THAT'S A LOT OF PRESSURE 1076 00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:30,140 ONCE AGAIN, THIS PROVES THAT YOU 1077 00:27:30,140 --> 00:27:32,099 CAN PLAY A STRINGED INSTRUMENT, 1078 00:27:30,140 --> 00:27:32,099 IF YOU COULD GET THROUGH A WHOLE 1079 00:27:32,099 --> 00:27:35,279 FILM WHERE YOU HAD TO EAT THAT 1080 00:27:32,099 --> 00:27:35,279 MUCH 1081 00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:37,109 >> IF I COULD JUST PUT MY MIND 1082 00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:37,109 TO IT, YEAH. 1083 00:27:37,109 --> 00:27:40,089 [ LAUGHTER ] 1084 00:27:37,109 --> 00:27:40,089 >> Seth: IT IS ALWAYS SO LOVELY 1085 00:27:40,089 --> 00:27:41,049 TO SEE YOU 1086 00:27:40,089 --> 00:27:41,049 I WISH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY A 1087 00:27:41,049 --> 00:27:45,230 VERY HAPPY THANKSGIVING, AND 1088 00:27:41,049 --> 00:27:45,230 THANKS, AS ALWAYS, FOR MAKING 1089 00:27:45,230 --> 00:27:47,279 TIME FOR US, AMY 1090 00:27:45,230 --> 00:27:47,279 >> TO YOU AS WELL. 1091 00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:48,289 BE WELL. 1092 00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:48,289 >> Seth: ALL RIGHT 1093 00:27:48,289 --> 00:27:51,170 "HILLBILLY ELEGY" IS IN SELECT 1094 00:27:48,289 --> 00:27:51,170 THEATERS NOW AND CURRENTLY 1095 00:27:51,170 --> 00:27:53,049 STREAMING ON NETFLIX 1096 00:27:51,170 --> 00:27:53,049 WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH 1097 00:27:53,049 --> 00:28:17,289 ADAM DAVIDSON. 1098 00:27:53,049 --> 00:28:17,289 ♪ 1099 00:28:17,289 --> 00:28:19,049 >> Seth: OUR NEXT GUEST IS A 1100 00:28:17,289 --> 00:28:19,049 PEABODY AWARD-WINNING FINANCE 1101 00:28:19,049 --> 00:28:21,150 AND ECONOMICS JOURNALIST AND 1102 00:28:19,049 --> 00:28:21,150 PODCASTER. 1103 00:28:21,150 --> 00:28:23,140 HIS BOOK, "THE PASSION ECONOMY 1104 00:28:21,150 --> 00:28:23,140 THE NEW RULES FOR THRIVING IN 1105 00:28:23,140 --> 00:28:26,160 THE 21st CENTURY," IS AVAILABLE 1106 00:28:23,140 --> 00:28:26,160 IN PAPERBACK NOW 1107 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,150 PLEASE WELCOME TO THE SHOW 1108 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,150 ADAM DAVIDSON. 1109 00:28:27,150 --> 00:28:30,240 HOW ARE YOU, ADAM? 1110 00:28:27,150 --> 00:28:30,240 >> GREAT TO SEE YOU, SETH. 1111 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,039 I'M DOING WELL 1112 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,039 >> Seth: IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU 1113 00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:35,079 AGAIN AS WELL. 1114 00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:35,079 SO, I WANT TO START -- YOU'RE 1115 00:28:35,079 --> 00:28:36,170 OBVIOUSLY AN ECONOMICS REPORTER, 1116 00:28:35,079 --> 00:28:36,170 AND THE WORLD IS GOING TO CHANGE 1117 00:28:36,170 --> 00:28:39,009 A GREAT DEAL 1118 00:28:36,170 --> 00:28:39,009 I IMAGINE YOUR WORK WILL STILL 1119 00:28:39,009 --> 00:28:42,079 BE RIGOROUS. 1120 00:28:39,009 --> 00:28:42,079 BUT TELL US HOW YOU THINK IT 1121 00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:43,160 WILL BE DIFFERENT UNDER A BIDEN 1122 00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:43,160 ADMINISTRATION, COMPARED TO WHAT 1123 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,279 IT WAS LIKE UNDER A TRUMP 1124 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,279 ADMINISTRATION 1125 00:28:46,279 --> 00:28:50,259 >> I MEAN, I AM SO EXCITED TO 1126 00:28:46,279 --> 00:28:50,259 HAVE NO IDEA WHAT BIDEN THINKS 1127 00:28:50,259 --> 00:28:54,049 ABOUT ANY AMERICAN COMPANY OR 1128 00:28:50,259 --> 00:28:54,049 FOREIGN COMPANY. 1129 00:28:54,049 --> 00:28:58,029 SO EXCITED 1130 00:28:54,049 --> 00:28:58,029 I MEAN, THE OTHER DAY, BIDEN HAD 1131 00:28:58,029 --> 00:28:59,079 SOME SPEECH AND I WAS LIKE, "I 1132 00:28:58,029 --> 00:28:59,079 DON'T EVEN HAVE TO WATCH IT. 1133 00:28:59,079 --> 00:29:01,190 IT'S GOING TO BE BORING, WHICH 1134 00:28:59,079 --> 00:29:01,190 IS GOOD! 1135 00:29:01,190 --> 00:29:04,269 I'M THRILLED IT'S GOING TO BE 1136 00:29:01,190 --> 00:29:04,269 BORING." 1137 00:29:04,269 --> 00:29:07,160 IT'S A SIGN OF VERY 1138 00:29:04,269 --> 00:29:07,160 DYSFUNCTIONAL ECONOMIES. 1139 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,140 I'VE SPENT A FAIR BIT OF MY 1140 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,140 CAREER IN DEVELOPING WORLD, 1141 00:29:11,140 --> 00:29:13,089 HIGHLY CORRUPT NATIONS, WHERE 1142 00:29:11,140 --> 00:29:13,089 YOU THINK A LOT ABOUT WHAT THE 1143 00:29:13,089 --> 00:29:14,109 PRESIDENT OR THE LEADER IS 1144 00:29:13,089 --> 00:29:14,109 THINKING AND FEELING ABOUT 1145 00:29:14,109 --> 00:29:20,190 DIFFERENT THINGS, DIFFERENT 1146 00:29:14,109 --> 00:29:20,190 COMPANIES, DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF 1147 00:29:20,190 --> 00:29:23,140 THE ECONOMY. 1148 00:29:20,190 --> 00:29:23,140 BUT IN AMERICA, TYPICALLY, YOU 1149 00:29:23,140 --> 00:29:28,109 WANT THE PRESIDENT JUST SORT OF 1150 00:29:23,140 --> 00:29:28,109 THINKING LONG TERM, BIG PICTURE. 1151 00:29:28,109 --> 00:29:30,250 YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO KNOW 1152 00:29:28,109 --> 00:29:30,250 WHAT THEY'RE THINKING DAY TO 1153 00:29:30,250 --> 00:29:32,069 DAY, MONTH TO MONTH ABOUT THE 1154 00:29:30,250 --> 00:29:32,069 STOCK MARKET, ABOUT BOEING, 1155 00:29:32,069 --> 00:29:33,200 ABOUT WHICH AIR CONDITIONER 1156 00:29:32,069 --> 00:29:33,200 COMPANY SHOULD BE DOING WELL OR 1157 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,180 WHICH ISN'T. 1158 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,180 SO, YES, BORING IS GENERALLY 1159 00:29:36,180 --> 00:29:42,059 VERY GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY. 1160 00:29:36,180 --> 00:29:42,059 >> Seth: HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE 1161 00:29:42,059 --> 00:29:47,089 THE BRAND OF TRUMP'S CORRUPTION, 1162 00:29:42,059 --> 00:29:47,089 HAVING COVERED IT FOR SO LONG? 1163 00:29:47,089 --> 00:29:48,200 >> SO, I REALLY HAVE DONE A VERY 1164 00:29:47,089 --> 00:29:48,200 DEEP DIVE OF TRAVEL TO CENTRAL 1165 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:55,279 ASIA AND OTHER PLACES TO COVER 1166 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:55,279 HIM. 1167 00:29:55,279 --> 00:30:03,089 I WOULD CALL HIM PRE-PRESIDENCY 1168 00:29:55,279 --> 00:30:03,089 AS A REAL BOTTOM FEEDER ON THE 1169 00:30:03,089 --> 00:30:12,170 MASSIVE CORRUPTION THAT EXISTED 1170 00:30:03,089 --> 00:30:12,170 IN AMERICA IN THE LAST -- I 1171 00:30:12,170 --> 00:30:13,269 MEAN, IN THE WORLD, IN THE LAST 1172 00:30:12,170 --> 00:30:13,269 12 YEARS 1173 00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:15,039 AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR 1174 00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:15,039 SO MUCH ABOUT RUSSIA AND THIS 1175 00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:17,109 AND THAT, AS IF TRUMP WAS LIKE 1176 00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:17,109 IN CHARGE OF THE U.S./RUSSIAN 1177 00:30:17,109 --> 00:30:22,019 CORRUPTION 1178 00:30:17,109 --> 00:30:22,019 THAT'S NOT THE CASE. 1179 00:30:22,019 --> 00:30:26,130 BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT OVER 1180 00:30:22,019 --> 00:30:26,130 THE LAST TWO DECADES, HALF OF 1181 00:30:26,130 --> 00:30:28,150 RUSSIAN WEALTH, LIKE TRILLIONS 1182 00:30:26,130 --> 00:30:28,150 OF DOLLARS FROM RUSSIA, OTHER 1183 00:30:28,150 --> 00:30:31,099 SOVIET, FORMER SOVIET NATIONS, 1184 00:30:28,150 --> 00:30:31,099 FLOWED INTO THE U.S., INTO THE 1185 00:30:31,099 --> 00:30:37,279 U.K., CAPITAL FLIGHT, MONEY 1186 00:30:31,099 --> 00:30:37,279 LAUNDERING, AND LOTS OF 1187 00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:39,240 INSTITUTIONS, INCLUDING MAJOR 1188 00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:39,240 BANKS AND MAJOR BUSINESSES MADE 1189 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,000 HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, 1190 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,000 TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OFF OF 1191 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,039 THIS 1192 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,039 TRUMP WAS MORE IN A BOTTOM 1193 00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:49,089 FEEDER 1194 00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:49,089 HE MADE A FEW MILLION HERE, A 1195 00:30:49,089 --> 00:30:50,190 FEW MILLION THERE, BY OFFERING A 1196 00:30:49,089 --> 00:30:50,190 BIG, SHINY, GOLD BRAND TO 1197 00:30:50,190 --> 00:30:55,089 OTHERWISE THOROUGHLY CORRUPT 1198 00:30:50,190 --> 00:30:55,089 PROJECTS 1199 00:30:55,089 --> 00:30:59,109 AND IT WAS -- THIS IS THE THING 1200 00:30:55,089 --> 00:30:59,109 I ALWAYS SAY, PEOPLE SEEM FINE 1201 00:30:59,109 --> 00:31:03,019 THAT HE'S CORRUPT. 1202 00:30:59,109 --> 00:31:03,019 I DON'T THINK THEY UNDERSTAND 1203 00:31:03,019 --> 00:31:04,150 HOW BAD HE IS AT CORRUPTION, HOW 1204 00:31:03,019 --> 00:31:04,150 INCOMPETENT. 1205 00:31:04,150 --> 00:31:08,220 HE'S LIKE THE 1206 00:31:04,150 --> 00:31:08,220 SIDNEY POWELL/RUDY GIULIANI OF 1207 00:31:08,220 --> 00:31:11,019 CORRUPTION 1208 00:31:08,220 --> 00:31:11,019 HE'S LEFT A LOT OF MONEY ON THE 1209 00:31:11,019 --> 00:31:14,099 TABLE. 1210 00:31:11,019 --> 00:31:14,099 HE STRUCTURES THE DEALS BADLY. 1211 00:31:14,099 --> 00:31:20,099 THAT, TO ME, IS WHAT WE SHOULD 1212 00:31:14,099 --> 00:31:20,099 BE FOCUSED ON. 1213 00:31:20,099 --> 00:31:23,119 HE'S REALLY CRAPPY AT 1214 00:31:20,099 --> 00:31:23,119 CORRUPTION 1215 00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:26,009 >> Seth: SO, THIS IS 1216 00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:26,009 INTERESTING, BECAUSE I THINK A 1217 00:31:26,009 --> 00:31:28,160 LOT OF PEOPLE MIGHT THINK THAT 1218 00:31:26,009 --> 00:31:28,160 DONALD TRUMP IS THE CAUSE OF 1219 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,220 EVERYTHING THAT AILS US, WHEN 1220 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,220 WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, AGAIN, 1221 00:31:29,220 --> 00:31:30,250 THERE WAS THIS SORT OF 1222 00:31:29,220 --> 00:31:30,250 CORRUPTION AT THE CORE OF MODERN 1223 00:31:30,250 --> 00:31:36,019 ECONOMIES THAT HE TOOK ADVANTAGE 1224 00:31:30,250 --> 00:31:36,019 OF, ALBEIT BADLY 1225 00:31:36,019 --> 00:31:39,099 WHAT IS THE -- IS THERE A RISK 1226 00:31:36,019 --> 00:31:39,099 NOW THAT WITH HIM OUT OF OFFICE, 1227 00:31:39,099 --> 00:31:40,259 PEOPLE WILL RELAX AND SAY, I'M 1228 00:31:39,099 --> 00:31:40,259 SO GLAD THE CORRUPTION'S GONE, 1229 00:31:40,259 --> 00:31:45,210 WHEN, AS YOU SAY, THIS IS 1230 00:31:40,259 --> 00:31:45,210 INSTITUTIONS, NOT JUST OF 1231 00:31:45,210 --> 00:31:47,079 GOVERNMENTS, BUT ALSO MAJOR 1232 00:31:45,210 --> 00:31:47,079 BANKS, MAJOR BANKS THAT, YOU 1233 00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:49,160 KNOW, ARE STILL THRIVING 1234 00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:49,160 HOW IS AN ECONOMICS REPORTER AND 1235 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,150 JUST THAT FIELD IN GENERAL, DO 1236 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,150 YOU HOPE TO HAVE THE SAME SORT 1237 00:31:51,150 --> 00:31:52,240 OF, I DON'T KNOW, EYEBALLS FROM 1238 00:31:51,150 --> 00:31:52,240 AN AUDIENCE THAT MIGHT MAYBE GET 1239 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:57,220 DISTRACTED NOW 1240 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:57,220 >> THAT IS GOING TO BE HARD. 1241 00:31:57,220 --> 00:32:02,259 I MEAN, I THINK WE HAVE A -- TWO 1242 00:31:57,220 --> 00:32:02,259 THINGS ARE TRUE. 1243 00:32:02,259 --> 00:32:06,039 ONE THING IS, TRUMP WAS UNIQUELY 1244 00:32:02,259 --> 00:32:06,039 AWFUL AS A POLITICIAN, AS A 1245 00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:10,119 FORCE IN ECONOMICS 1246 00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:10,119 HE WAS ALSO A PART OF A TREND. 1247 00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:14,000 WE HAVE A MULTIDECADE-LONG 1248 00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:14,000 DECISION NOT TO PROSECUTE 1249 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:19,049 WHITE-COLLAR CRIMES. 1250 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:19,049 SO, WHILE I PERSONALLY BELIEVE 1251 00:32:19,049 --> 00:32:23,089 THAT I, MYSELF, AND OTHERS HAVE 1252 00:32:19,049 --> 00:32:23,089 SHOWN EVIDENCE THAT TRUMP HAS 1253 00:32:23,089 --> 00:32:26,140 ALMOST CERTAINLY DONE THINGS 1254 00:32:23,089 --> 00:32:26,140 THAT CAN LAND HIM IN JAIL, WE 1255 00:32:26,140 --> 00:32:29,089 JUST DON'T REALLY HAVE AN 1256 00:32:26,140 --> 00:32:29,089 APPARATUS TO GO AFTER WHITE 1257 00:32:29,089 --> 00:32:31,119 COLLAR CRIME AGGRESSIVELY. 1258 00:32:29,089 --> 00:32:31,119 MY INSTINCT IS HE'S NOT GOING TO 1259 00:32:31,119 --> 00:32:32,180 JAIL BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW 1260 00:32:31,119 --> 00:32:32,180 TO PROSECUTE THOSE CASES VERY 1261 00:32:32,180 --> 00:32:37,119 WELL 1262 00:32:32,180 --> 00:32:37,119 BUT AT THE SAME TIME, HE'S A 1263 00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:42,289 CRUDE, UGLY VERSION OF A 1264 00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:42,289 FUNDAMENTAL THING. 1265 00:32:42,289 --> 00:32:48,089 THINK ABOUT MANHATTAN, WHERE YOU 1266 00:32:42,289 --> 00:32:48,089 KNOW, ALL THOSE BIG TOWERS THAT 1267 00:32:48,089 --> 00:32:52,279 ARE 80% EMPTY AND ARE FILLED - 1268 00:32:48,089 --> 00:32:52,279 WE KNOW WITH MONEY LAUNDERING 1269 00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:54,059 THAT MONEY LAUNDERING IS SO 1270 00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:54,059 INHERENT IN THE REAL ESTATE 1271 00:32:54,059 --> 00:32:56,099 BUSINESS, IN NEW YORK, IN 1272 00:32:54,059 --> 00:32:56,099 LONDON, IN MIAMI AND L.A. 1273 00:32:56,099 --> 00:33:01,269 IT'S INHERENT IN A LOT OF OUR 1274 00:32:56,099 --> 00:33:01,269 BANKING SYSTEMS. 1275 00:33:01,269 --> 00:33:03,160 SO, YES, WE HAVE A REALLY, 1276 00:33:01,269 --> 00:33:03,160 REALLY BIG PROBLEM THAT'S WAY 1277 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,079 BIGGER THAN TRUMP AND INVOLVES 1278 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,079 PEOPLE WHO ARE A LOT MORE 1279 00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:06,119 SOPHISTICATED, A LOT MORE 1280 00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:06,119 SUBTLE, THAT WE REALLY NEED TO 1281 00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:18,079 ADDRESS, THAT IS GOING TO DEFINE 1282 00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:18,079 OUR DEMOCRACY, I THINK 1283 00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:20,039 I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S EVIDENCE 1284 00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:20,039 THAT WHEN DEMOCRACIES HAVE 1285 00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:23,000 COLLAPSED, IT'S FOR THIS KIND OF 1286 00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:23,000 THING. 1287 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,019 THE RICH PEOPLE USE A CORRUPTION 1288 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,019 OF THE SYSTEM TO CAPTURE WEALTH 1289 00:33:25,019 --> 00:33:29,230 THEY HAVEN'T EARNED. 1290 00:33:25,019 --> 00:33:29,230 AND MY BOOK IS REALLY ALL ABOUT 1291 00:33:29,230 --> 00:33:33,210 HOW EACH OF US CAN CAPTURE VALUE 1292 00:33:29,230 --> 00:33:33,210 WE DO EARN IN A NEW WAY, BUT 1293 00:33:33,210 --> 00:33:39,049 WE'RE IN A WAR, YOU KNOW 1294 00:33:33,210 --> 00:33:39,049 IT'S A SUBTLE WAR, BUT A WAR 1295 00:33:39,049 --> 00:33:40,180 BETWEEN VALUE-ADDING BUSINESS 1296 00:33:39,049 --> 00:33:40,180 AND CORRUPT, PRINT-SEEKING, 1297 00:33:40,180 --> 00:33:45,220 STEALING BUSINESSES. 1298 00:33:40,180 --> 00:33:45,220 >> Seth: YOU, BEING A 1299 00:33:45,220 --> 00:33:47,009 NEW YORKER, HAVE OBVIOUSLY KNOWN 1300 00:33:45,220 --> 00:33:47,009 ABOUT DONALD TRUMP YOUR WHOLE 1301 00:33:47,009 --> 00:33:50,089 LIFE 1302 00:33:47,009 --> 00:33:50,089 DO YOU THINK IF HE HAD BEEN, YOU 1303 00:33:50,089 --> 00:33:53,009 KNOW, A BETTER MONEY LAUNDERER 1304 00:33:50,089 --> 00:33:53,009 AND NOT THE SORT OF BOTTOM 1305 00:33:53,009 --> 00:33:54,049 FEEDER YOU DESCRIBE HIM OF, HE 1306 00:33:53,009 --> 00:33:54,049 NEVER WOULD'VE WASTED TIME 1307 00:33:54,049 --> 00:33:55,140 RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE 1308 00:33:54,049 --> 00:33:55,140 WOULD HAVE HAD ALL THE MONEY HE 1309 00:33:55,140 --> 00:33:58,029 NEEDED 1310 00:33:55,140 --> 00:33:58,029 >> YES 1311 00:33:58,029 --> 00:33:59,089 I THINK THAT A MARK OF GOOD 1312 00:33:58,029 --> 00:33:59,089 MONEY LAUNDERERS IS THEY'RE NOT 1313 00:33:59,089 --> 00:34:00,079 IN THE PAPERS, YOU DON'T KNOW 1314 00:33:59,089 --> 00:34:00,079 WHO THEY ARE 1315 00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:06,059 YES. 1316 00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:06,059 >> Seth: THAT'S LIKE THE MONEY 1317 00:34:06,059 --> 00:34:10,260 LAUNDERING UNIVERSITY. 1318 00:34:06,059 --> 00:34:10,260 THAT'S LIKE THE FIRST DAY. 1319 00:34:10,260 --> 00:34:14,079 >> THAT'S THE VERY, VERY FIRST 1320 00:34:10,260 --> 00:34:14,079 DAY. 1321 00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:15,170 IN FACT, I HAVE A BUDDY OF MINE, 1322 00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:15,170 PAUL PELATIERE, WHO IS A FORMER 1323 00:34:15,170 --> 00:34:16,250 PROSECUTOR WHO TEACHES A COURSE. 1324 00:34:15,170 --> 00:34:16,250 HE CALLS IT MONEY LAUNDERING AT 1325 00:34:16,250 --> 00:34:17,230 A LAW SCHOOL 1326 00:34:16,250 --> 00:34:17,230 AND HE SAID, I SHOULD HAVE SAID 1327 00:34:17,230 --> 00:34:21,110 ANTIMONEY LAUNDERING BECAUSE 1328 00:34:17,230 --> 00:34:21,110 THERE'S ALL THESE KIDS - 1329 00:34:21,110 --> 00:34:26,250 >> Seth: SO YEAH, THE FIRST DAY, 1330 00:34:21,110 --> 00:34:26,250 YOU REALIZE, LIKE, I DEFINITELY 1331 00:34:26,250 --> 00:34:30,039 GOT THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE IN THIS 1332 00:34:26,250 --> 00:34:30,039 CLASS WHO ARE HERE TO MONEY 1333 00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:31,210 LAUNDER. 1334 00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:31,210 >> WE'RE HERE TO MONEY LAUNDER 1335 00:34:31,210 --> 00:34:36,070 MONEY LAUNDERING IS A BIG PART 1336 00:34:31,210 --> 00:34:36,070 OF OUR ECONOMY, AND THE PEOPLE 1337 00:34:36,070 --> 00:34:37,230 WHO ARE GOOD AT IT, YEAH, PART 1338 00:34:36,070 --> 00:34:37,230 OF BEING GOOD AT IT IS YOU DON'T 1339 00:34:37,230 --> 00:34:43,269 YELL ABOUT IT. 1340 00:34:37,230 --> 00:34:43,269 AND HE OPENLY -- REMEMBER, 1341 00:34:43,269 --> 00:34:45,289 OPENLY, TALKS ABOUT BRIBING 1342 00:34:43,269 --> 00:34:45,289 FOREIGN OFFICIALS, TALKS ABOUT 1343 00:34:45,289 --> 00:34:48,210 HOW MONEY LAUNDERING FUELS REAL 1344 00:34:45,289 --> 00:34:48,210 ESTATE 1345 00:34:48,210 --> 00:34:50,000 I MEAN, HE'S AN EMBARRASSMENT TO 1346 00:34:48,210 --> 00:34:50,000 THE MONEY -- TO THE GOOD PEOPLE 1347 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:56,039 OF THE MONEY LAUNDERING 1348 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:56,039 INDUSTRY 1349 00:34:56,039 --> 00:34:57,170 >> Seth: HE REFLECTS SO BADLY ON 1350 00:34:56,039 --> 00:34:57,170 THEM 1351 00:34:57,170 --> 00:34:59,090 YOU TALK ABOUT THAT WE DON'T 1352 00:34:57,170 --> 00:34:59,090 REALLY IN THIS COUNTRY HAVE AN 1353 00:34:59,090 --> 00:35:01,150 APPARATUS IN PLACE TO PROSECUTE 1354 00:34:59,090 --> 00:35:01,150 WHITE COLLAR CRIMES AND THAT HE 1355 00:35:01,150 --> 00:35:04,239 LIKELY -- AND I AGREE WITH 1356 00:35:01,150 --> 00:35:04,239 YOU -- IS NOT GOING TO GO TO 1357 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,280 JAIL, BUT IT DOES SEEM THAT HE 1358 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,280 HAS SOME, YOU KNOW, CIVIL 1359 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:12,260 EXPOSURE HERE. 1360 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:12,260 NOT JUST HIM, BUT HIS CHILDREN 1361 00:35:12,260 --> 00:35:14,030 AND YOU'VE SORT OF POINTED OUT 1362 00:35:12,260 --> 00:35:14,030 THAT MAYBE IVANKA TRUMP HAS HER 1363 00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:18,030 HANDS IN MORE THINGS THAN WE 1364 00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:18,030 WERE LED TO BELIEVE. 1365 00:35:18,030 --> 00:35:20,090 >> I WOULD SAY IT WAS AN INITIAL 1366 00:35:18,030 --> 00:35:20,090 SURPRISE, BUT IT'S NOW REALLY 1367 00:35:20,090 --> 00:35:24,000 ROBUST, IS THE FINDING THAT NOT 1368 00:35:20,090 --> 00:35:24,000 JUST ME, I'D SAY EVERY REPORTER 1369 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,289 WHO COVERS THE TRUMP 1370 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,289 ORGANIZATION, IS JUST HOW 1371 00:35:26,289 --> 00:35:32,000 CENTRAL IVANKA IS TO THE SHADIER 1372 00:35:26,289 --> 00:35:32,000 PARTS OF THE BUSINESS. 1373 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,090 IN ONE OF THE STORIES THAT I 1374 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,090 REPORTED IN "THE NEW YORKER" 1375 00:35:34,090 --> 00:35:35,210 THREE YEARS AGO ABOUT THIS 1376 00:35:34,090 --> 00:35:35,210 UNBELIEVABLY SHADY DEAL IN 1377 00:35:35,210 --> 00:35:38,110 AZERBAIJAN 1378 00:35:35,210 --> 00:35:38,110 I MEAN, TRULY, I PUBLISHED 1379 00:35:38,110 --> 00:35:42,050 THIS -- "THE NEW YORKER" 1380 00:35:38,110 --> 00:35:42,050 PUBLISHED THIS AND THE TRUMP 1381 00:35:42,050 --> 00:35:43,099 ORGANIZATION SAID NOTHING WAS 1382 00:35:42,050 --> 00:35:43,099 WRONG IN THE ARTICLE AND 1383 00:35:43,099 --> 00:35:44,179 ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THEY WERE PART 1384 00:35:43,099 --> 00:35:44,179 OF A MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME FOR 1385 00:35:44,179 --> 00:35:57,239 IRAN'S REVOLUTIONARY GUARD 1386 00:35:44,179 --> 00:35:57,239 AND THE PERSON LEADING THAT 1387 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,239 PROJECT WAS IVANKA 1388 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,239 AND I HAVE ON THE RECORD FROM 1389 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,019 PEOPLE INVOLVED THAT SHE 1390 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,019 PERSONALLY CALLED FOR THE 1391 00:36:01,019 --> 00:36:04,269 DESTRUCTION OF THIS COMMUNITY, 1392 00:36:01,019 --> 00:36:04,269 THIS WORKING-CLASS COMMUNITY IN 1393 00:36:04,269 --> 00:36:11,139 AZERBAIJAN BECAUSE SHE WANTED A 1394 00:36:04,269 --> 00:36:11,139 LARGER PARK FOR HER HOTEL 1395 00:36:11,139 --> 00:36:16,050 RESIDENCE. 1396 00:36:11,139 --> 00:36:16,050 AND I EVEN WENT TO AZERBAIJAN. 1397 00:36:16,050 --> 00:36:20,230 I MET PEOPLE WHOSE HOMES WERE 1398 00:36:16,050 --> 00:36:20,230 DESTROYED, WHOSE LIVES ARE 1399 00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:22,150 PERMANENTLY WORSE. 1400 00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:22,150 I THINK IVANKA IS, AS MANY 1401 00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:26,059 PEOPLE IN THE TRUMP WORLD WILL 1402 00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:26,059 SAY, SHE'S THE TOUGHER OF THE 1403 00:36:26,059 --> 00:36:30,269 TRUMPS 1404 00:36:26,059 --> 00:36:30,269 SHE'S NOT -- I MEAN, NONE OF 1405 00:36:30,269 --> 00:36:37,139 THESE PEOPLE ARE GENIUSES, BUT 1406 00:36:30,269 --> 00:36:37,139 SHE OBVIOUSLY HAS A SAVVY -- 1407 00:36:37,139 --> 00:36:38,199 SHE HAS A SOPHISTICATION 1408 00:36:37,139 --> 00:36:38,199 I THINK IT'S OBVIOUS SHE'S MADE 1409 00:36:38,199 --> 00:36:44,010 A MAJOR PIVOT FROM BEING THE 1410 00:36:38,199 --> 00:36:44,010 KIND OF PROGRESSIVE IN THE TRUMP 1411 00:36:44,010 --> 00:36:45,239 WORLD TO JUST BEING FULL TRUMP 1412 00:36:44,010 --> 00:36:45,239 WORLD, BUT IN A WAY, I THINK, 1413 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,230 THAT SHE HOPES WILL CAPTURE, YOU 1414 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,230 KNOW, THOSE SUBURBAN WOMEN THAT 1415 00:36:47,230 --> 00:36:52,239 TRUMP DEMANDED LOVE HIM. 1416 00:36:47,230 --> 00:36:52,239 I THINK SHE IS THE THREAT. 1417 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:59,199 I THINK SHE'S THE RISK GOING 1418 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:59,199 FORWARD, BECAUSE SHE -- I MEAN, 1419 00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:01,019 MY COLLEAGUE, ANDREA BERNSTEIN 1420 00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:01,019 AND OTHERS HAVE REPORTED ON HOW 1421 00:37:01,019 --> 00:37:02,099 SHE WAS GOING TO BE ARRESTED AND 1422 00:37:01,019 --> 00:37:02,099 THE MANHATTAN D.A., CY VANCE, 1423 00:37:02,099 --> 00:37:03,170 DECIDED NOT TO ARREST HER, EVEN 1424 00:37:02,099 --> 00:37:03,170 THOUGH THERE IS EMAIL EVIDENCE 1425 00:37:03,170 --> 00:37:11,079 OF HER ACKNOWLEDGING COMMITTING 1426 00:37:03,170 --> 00:37:11,079 A CRIME. 1427 00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:14,159 SHE'S BAD NEWS, BUT SHE'S JUST A 1428 00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:14,159 LOT BETTER THAN THE REST OF THE 1429 00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:17,190 FAMILY AT PRETENDING SHE'S NOT 1430 00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:17,190 >> Seth: I WANT TO TALK ABOUT 1431 00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:19,019 SOMETHING OPTIMISTIC BEFORE WE 1432 00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:19,019 GO, WHICH IS YOUR BOOK, "THE 1433 00:37:19,019 --> 00:37:23,179 PASSION ECONOMY. 1434 00:37:19,019 --> 00:37:23,179 AND IT DOES SPEAK TO WHAT YOU 1435 00:37:23,179 --> 00:37:24,250 WERE SAYING EARLIER, THAT THERE 1436 00:37:23,179 --> 00:37:24,250 IS A WAY FOR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, 1437 00:37:24,250 --> 00:37:25,289 NOT GIANT CORPORATIONS, TO 1438 00:37:24,250 --> 00:37:25,289 INTERACT WITH CONSUMERS AT A 1439 00:37:25,289 --> 00:37:27,050 LEVEL, MAKING THINGS THAT THEY 1440 00:37:25,289 --> 00:37:27,050 CARE ABOUT DEEPLY, TO ACTUALLY 1441 00:37:27,050 --> 00:37:35,230 MAKE A LIVING. 1442 00:37:27,050 --> 00:37:35,230 >> YEAH. 1443 00:37:35,230 --> 00:37:37,159 I MEAN, ACTUALLY, THE WORK OF MY 1444 00:37:35,230 --> 00:37:37,159 BOOK, A LOT OF IT CAME OUT -- I 1445 00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:41,039 WAS WORKING WITH A GROUP OF 1446 00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:41,039 ECONOMISTS AND BUSINESS SCHOOL 1447 00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:44,289 PROFESSORS AT M.I.T. AND HARVARD 1448 00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:44,289 WHEN WE ALL THOUGHT 1449 00:37:44,289 --> 00:37:47,070 HILLARY CLINTON WAS GOING TO BE 1450 00:37:44,289 --> 00:37:47,070 THE NEXT PRESIDENT 1451 00:37:47,070 --> 00:37:48,170 AND WE WERE ALL VERY FRUSTRATED 1452 00:37:47,070 --> 00:37:48,170 THAT SHE WASN'T ARTICULATING AN 1453 00:37:48,170 --> 00:37:54,280 OPTIMISTIC, FORWARD-LOOKING 1454 00:37:48,170 --> 00:37:54,280 MESSAGE ABOUT THE ECONOMY. 1455 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,139 AND I THINK THAT GROUP OF 1456 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,139 PEOPLE, AND CERTAINLY ME, 1457 00:37:56,139 --> 00:37:59,090 BELIEVES WE HAVE REAL, REAL 1458 00:37:56,139 --> 00:37:59,090 ISSUES, NO QUESTION. 1459 00:37:59,090 --> 00:38:01,079 IT'S NOT TO SAY, "OH, 1460 00:37:59,090 --> 00:38:01,079 EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE GREAT," 1461 00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:04,260 BUT THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES 1462 00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:04,260 FOR EVERYDAY AMERICANS THAT HAVE 1463 00:38:04,260 --> 00:38:07,110 NEVER EXISTED BEFORE AND THAT 1464 00:38:04,260 --> 00:38:07,110 ARE IN, YOU KNOW, THEY EXIST 1465 00:38:07,110 --> 00:38:12,019 BECAUSE THE STRUCTURE OF OUR 1466 00:38:07,110 --> 00:38:12,019 ECONOMY HAS CHANGED. 1467 00:38:12,019 --> 00:38:15,230 AND WE WOULD ACTUALLY, IN THAT 1468 00:38:12,019 --> 00:38:15,230 WORK, TALK ABOUT HOW AT OTHER 1469 00:38:15,230 --> 00:38:22,079 TIMES, WHEN YOU SAW MAJOR SHIFTS 1470 00:38:15,230 --> 00:38:22,079 IN HOW AN ECONOMY WORKS, WHEN 1471 00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:23,239 TRADE STARTED BECOMING A BIG 1472 00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:23,239 THING IN THE 1890s, WHEN 1473 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,050 AGRICULTURE GAVE WAY TO INDUSTRY 1474 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,050 IN THE EARLY 1900s. 1475 00:38:27,050 --> 00:38:30,219 IT OFTEN PAVES THE WAY TO 1476 00:38:27,050 --> 00:38:30,219 AUTHORITARIANS WHO KNOW PEOPLE 1477 00:38:30,219 --> 00:38:36,039 ARE AFRAID AND CONFUSED AND WANT 1478 00:38:30,219 --> 00:38:36,039 SIMPLE ANSWERS 1479 00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:38,289 BUT THAT IS THE MESSAGE OF MY 1480 00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:38,289 BOOK 1481 00:38:38,289 --> 00:38:40,079 I MEAN, BASICALLY, I JUST TELL 1482 00:38:38,289 --> 00:38:40,079 THE STORY OF A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO 1483 00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:41,050 FIGURED THIS OUT THROUGH THEIR 1484 00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:41,050 BUSINESSES 1485 00:38:41,050 --> 00:38:45,260 BUT I DO BELIEVE THE 21st 1486 00:38:41,050 --> 00:38:45,260 CENTURY TRULY CAN BE A GREAT 1487 00:38:45,260 --> 00:38:47,079 CENTURY FOR AMERICANS AND PEOPLE 1488 00:38:45,260 --> 00:38:47,079 AROUND THE WORLD, ECONOMICALLY, 1489 00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:54,239 POLITICALLY, ET CETERA 1490 00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:54,239 BUT I ALSO THINK WE'RE IN A WAR. 1491 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,250 I MEAN, THE FORCES OF MONEY 1492 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,250 LAUNDERING REALLY DO WANT A 1493 00:38:56,250 --> 00:39:03,269 DIFFERENT ECONOMY. 1494 00:38:56,250 --> 00:39:03,269 AND I THINK THE JURY'S STILL 1495 00:39:03,269 --> 00:39:05,099 OUT. 1496 00:39:03,269 --> 00:39:05,099 BUT EACH OF US HAS AN 1497 00:39:05,099 --> 00:39:09,150 OPPORTUNITY TO SUCCEED IN A WAY 1498 00:39:05,099 --> 00:39:09,150 WE NEVER COULD BEFORE. 1499 00:39:09,150 --> 00:39:11,159 >> Seth: WELL, IT IS NICE TO 1500 00:39:09,150 --> 00:39:11,159 HAVE A BOOK THAT SETS OUT A MORE 1501 00:39:11,159 --> 00:39:12,289 OPTIMISTIC PATH, AND IT'S ALWAYS 1502 00:39:11,159 --> 00:39:12,289 REALLY LOVELY TO TALK TO YOU 1503 00:39:12,289 --> 00:39:16,269 THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE, 1504 00:39:12,289 --> 00:39:16,269 ADAM 1505 00:39:16,269 --> 00:39:18,239 >> THANK YOU, SETH 1506 00:39:16,269 --> 00:39:18,239 >> Seth: "THE PASSION ECONOMY" 1507 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,110 IS AVAILABLE IN PAPERBACK NOW. 1508 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,110 WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. 1509 00:39:21,110 --> 00:39:44,190 ♪ 1510 00:39:21,110 --> 00:39:44,190 >> Seth: COME BACK TOMORROW FOR 1511 00:39:44,190 --> 00:39:46,019 AN ALL NEW SHOW WITH A NEW 1512 00:39:44,190 --> 00:39:46,019 CLOSER LOOK AND MY GUEST, THE 1513 00:39:46,019 --> 00:39:47,099 GREAT JOHN OLIVER AND THE 1514 00:39:46,019 --> 00:39:47,099 SPORTSCASTER JOE BUCK. 1515 00:39:47,099 --> 00:39:49,050 AND ON THURSDAY, MY MOTHER, 1516 00:39:47,099 --> 00:39:49,050 FATHER AND BROTHER WILL JOIN ME 1517 00:39:49,050 --> 00:39:54,059 FOR OUR ANNUAL MEYERS FAMILY 1518 00:39:49,050 --> 00:39:54,059 THANKSGIVING SHOW. 1519 00:39:54,059 --> 00:39:55,150 IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT 1520 00:39:54,059 --> 00:39:55,150 THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE ALL WANT TO 1521 00:39:55,150 --> 00:39:59,230 STAY SAFE. 1522 00:39:55,150 --> 00:39:59,230 SO WE'LL BE VIRTUAL. 1523 00:39:59,230 --> 00:40:01,019 MY BROTHER IS GONNA ZOOM IN FROM 1524 00:39:59,230 --> 00:40:01,019 L.A. 1525 00:40:01,019 --> 00:40:04,250 MY PARENTS WILL ZOOM IN FROM 1526 00:40:01,019 --> 00:40:04,250 NEW HAMPSHIRE. 1527 00:40:04,250 --> 00:40:06,139 THE ONE THING THAT WILL NOT BE 1528 00:40:04,250 --> 00:40:06,139 VIRTUAL, I PROMISE YOU, IS MY 1529 00:40:06,139 --> 00:40:09,090 MOTHER'S GIN AND TONIC 1530 00:40:06,139 --> 00:40:09,090 THAT AS ALWAYS, WILL BE REAL, 1531 00:40:09,090 --> 00:40:12,170 AND POURED WITH A HEAVY HAND 1532 00:40:09,090 --> 00:40:12,170 SO I PROMISE A FUN NIGHT, AND 1533 00:40:12,170 --> 00:40:34,090 WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. 1534 00:40:12,170 --> 00:40:34,090 ♪ 1535 00:40:34,090 --> 00:40:35,090 >> Seth: I WANT TO THANK MY 1536 00:40:34,090 --> 00:40:35,090 GUESTS AMY ADAMS AND 1537 00:40:35,090 --> 00:40:36,150 ADAM DAVIDSON. 1538 00:40:35,090 --> 00:40:36,150 I WANT TO THANK FRED ARMISEN AND 1539 00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:38,010 THE 8G BAND. 1540 00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:38,010 STAY TUNED FOR LILY SINGH. 1541 00:40:38,010 --> 00:40:40,139 STAY SAFE. 1542 00:40:38,010 --> 00:40:40,139 WASH YOUR HANDS. 1543 00:40:40,139 --> 00:40:42,150 WEAR A MASK. 1544 00:40:40,139 --> 00:40:42,150 WE LOVE YOU. 1545 00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:58,030 ♪