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NARRATOR: Tonight
on The Curse of Oak Island.
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- TERRY: Today could be the day.
- CHARLES: We got a core.
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GARY:
Oh, man. That's cool.
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DAVID F.: Were there certain
boxes that would have that type
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- of sheeting on it?
- Only for valuables.
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Gary, what do you make of this?
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Oh, yeah.
We're looking for a ship.
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- That's the type of find you want to be pulling up.
- CLARKE: We know
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that Phips found silver
on the Concepción,
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and I believe
some of the treasure
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from the Concepción
was secreted to Oak Island.
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- Wow.
- That is remarkable.
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NARRATOR: There is an
island in the North Atlantic
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where people
have been looking for
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an incredible treasure
for more than 200 years.
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So far, they have found
a stone slab
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with strange symbols
carved into it...
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man-made workings
that date to medieval times,
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and a lead cross
whose origin may be connected
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to the Knights Templar.
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To date, six men have died
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trying to solve the mystery.
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And according to legend,
one more will have to die
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before the treasure
can be found.
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- CHARLES: We good to go?
- TERRY: I'm good to go.
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Today could be the day, Charles.
Of all the drillholes
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we've drilled on this pad,
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- I've got to say this is the one I'm most encouraged by.
- Yeah.
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NARRATOR:
A new day of exploration
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has begun on Oak Island
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in the fabled Money Pit area.
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And for brothers
Rick and Marty Lagina,
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their partner Craig Tester
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- and the members of their team...
- TERRY: Here it comes.
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NARRATOR: there is good
reason to believe that the answers
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to a 227-year-old
treasure mystery
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may finally be
within their reach.
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- What's the good word, Adam? 18?
- Hey, Adam. What do you got? - 18.
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- TERRY: Eight to 18. Thank you.
- CHARLES: Eight to 18.
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Okay.
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AB-13.5.
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Two and a half feet away
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on the east side from
our offset chamber, perhaps.
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This is probably our best chance
to really tap into it.
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Let's hope.
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(indistinct shouting)
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TERRY:
Holy cow.
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-We've never seen that before. Blowing water out.
-No, that's unusual.
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NARRATOR:
Over the past two weeks,
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while drilling in this area
on their strategic grid...
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BRENNAN:
Oh, boy.
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TEDFORD:
Hey, Craig! There it is.
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NARRATOR: the team has
penetrated a mysterious, air-filled void
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twice at a depth
of some 60 feet.
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It's got to be a void.
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That's a phenomenon
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- right there.
- TEDFORD: Yeah.
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This same phenomena would occur
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- for the famous offset chamber, wouldn't it?
- Exactly.
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NARRATOR:
This has led to speculation
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that they may have encountered
a secret chamber
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connected
to the original Money Pit.
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The general area where we are
conducting this drill program
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I think
is exceedingly interesting.
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And it's certainly on the radar
or marked
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as a potential
"X" marks the spot
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and will point us
in a very specific direction.
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TERRY:
Solid, dense blue-gray till.
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It isn't here, Charles.
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- We didn't expect it to be.
- Yeah.
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So, anyway,
as we get to target depth
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around 65 or 70 feet,
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I'm very hopeful
we're gonna hit something.
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- Perhaps the offset chamber.
- CHARLES: Yep.
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And hopefully that'll get us
to where the can placements go.
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- Exactly.
- NARRATOR: Now, as they drill a new borehole
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known as AB-13.5...
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- CHARLES: Can this go, Terry?
- Yes, please.
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NARRATOR: if they once
again encounter the void
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and perhaps the source
of the gold and silver
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that has recently been detected
deep underground in this area,
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they will install up to four
ten-foot-wide steel-cased shafts
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to recover what people
have been trying to find
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since 1795.
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RICK: To me, it's not
just about finding the gold.
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I want to know
how this was done,
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why it was done.
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I want to know the whole story.
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And the whole story
will be written underground
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in a vault, a void, a cavity,
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a-a construct,
a human construct.
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To me,
that's gold in and of itself.
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- Hey, guys.
- CHARLES: Hey, Alex.
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- Hi, Alex.
- ALEX: What'd I miss?
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- CHARLES: Not much.
- Not too much. We are now only about two and a half feet away
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from where we intersected
the air cavity.
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You'd think we'd hit something,
right? Because unless we got,
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really, I guess, lucky
and hit the very top
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of the air cavity
on the first hole,
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- there should be more down there.
- Absolutely.
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We could be in the area
of an offset chamber
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- for, hopefully, the treasure beyond all imagining.
- Yeah.
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And here comes the core.
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- Hey, Adam. How we doing?
- 28.
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TERRY:
Thank you.
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- Thank you.
- TERRY: 18 to 28.
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If we drill this anomaly
and we go into a void,
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even if we don't bring up
anything else,
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then it'd be worth putting
a caisson down there, for sure.
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Because
it's not a natural cavern.
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TERRY: We have no
break, no disturbance.
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Nothing remarkable yet.
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So, we're still
about 30 to 35 feet
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above where we hope to intersect
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our chamber.
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Let's hope we get it today.
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ALEX: All right. Well, let's
keep our fingers crossed.
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NARRATOR:
Later that morning,
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as Terry Matheson supervises
the drilling operation
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in the Money Pit area...
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- Scott, welcome to the war room.
- Thank you. Thanks, guys.
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NARRATOR: Charles Barkhouse
and Alex Lagina
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join Rick Lagina
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and other members of the team
in the war room,
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where they have gathered
to meet with Scott Clarke.
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CLARKE: So, I've found, I
believe, significant information
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that really strengthens,
uh, the idea
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- of there being silver in this area.
- Interesting.
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NARRATOR:
Scott is a 33rd-degree Freemason
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who has traveled from Toronto
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to share information
regarding the possible origins
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of the Oak Island mystery.
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RICK:
Scott is presenting a theory
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about the William Phips
and the salvage
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of the Concepción treasure.
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And why it's so intriguing
at this point, of course,
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is because of the silver
from the water sampling
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- we've done in the Money Pit.
- Yeah.
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- So, Scott, please proceed.
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So, as you just mentioned, uh,
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many people
are actually familiar
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with William Phips's discovery
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of the Concepción back in 1687.
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We know that Phips found silver
on the Concepción,
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and I believe
some of the treasure
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from the Concepción
was secreted to Oak Island.
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Very interesting.
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There's no question about that.
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NARRATOR:
Built in 1620,
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the Nuestra Señora de la Pura
y Limpia Concepción
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was a 600-ton galleon
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that served as the premier ship
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in a Spanish fleet
to carry plundered riches
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from the New World
back to Spain.
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(thunder rumbles)
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But in 1641,
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while transporting more than
100 tons of silver and gold,
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the Concepción was sunk
by a massive hurricane
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off the northern coast
of Hispaniola,
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known today
as the Dominican Republic.
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The disaster led to the deaths
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of some 300 crew members
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and the loss
of the vast treasure.
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More than four decades later,
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Captain William Phips,
a British politician
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and treasure hunter from
the Massachusetts Bay Colony,
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embarked on a salvage mission
financed by British royalty.
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In January of 1687,
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he located the wreck
of the Concepción.
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Utilizing
Indigenous free divers,
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it would mark the first
of perhaps several missions
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that Phips made to salvage
the sunken treasure galleon.
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CLARKE: When it was
brought back to England,
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the treasure was weighed in
at over 34 tons
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and valued at about £205,000,
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which would be 50 million U.S.
dollars in today's currency.
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- That is remarkable.
- ALEX: Yeah.
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CLARKE: Uh, Phips
himself received £11,000
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or $2.7 million
in today's money.
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And Phips was knighted
by King James
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and treated as a hero in London.
It was very big news.
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Yeah. It was the recovery of
that treasure off the Concepción
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that actually bought his way
into higher society.
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- Phips, yeah. Yeah, and being knighted. Yeah.
- DOUG: Yeah.
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- CLARKE: Exactly.
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CLARKE:
Yeah. And this is about the time
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when Captain Andrew Belcher
comes into the picture.
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He was to become the assistant
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of the newly knighted
Sir William Phips.
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NARRATOR: Captain Andrew
Belcher was a wealthy merchant
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and Freemason
from Cambridge, Massachusetts,
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who helped to shape
cooperative relations
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between the American colonists
and Indigenous tribes.
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However, according
to Scott Clarke's research,
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he also aided Sir William Phips
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in his subsequent efforts
to salvage the Concepción.
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CLARKE:
So, in September 1687,
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Phips returned to the wreck
of the Concepción.
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And during the second expedition
of the treasure,
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Phips brought back to England,
was only valued
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at £10,000.
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He literally found 1/20
of what he found the first time.
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DOUG: He came back
with less than expected,
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- right? Yeah.
- CLARKE: Much less. Yeah. Yeah.
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And he was there
for eight months.
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He was there a long time,
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so they were expecting more.
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- Right.
- CLARKE: Okay. So, um,
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this is where
my first discovery comes in.
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I basically found a 1688 letter
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that shows
that Captain Andrew Belcher
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was caught
with one of Phips's ships
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in the Mahone Bay area
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at the exact time
that Phips was coming back
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from the second attempt,
where he
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"allegedly," officially,
did not find as much silver.
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The letter also states
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that they burnt the ship
at Port L'Hebert,
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which is very close
to Oak Island.
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I strongly believe
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that Belcher and his comrades
were actually
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transferring treasure
from the Concepción
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to be taken to Nova Scotia.
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So, this brings me
to my second discovery,
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which I think
is the most interesting.
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I discovered
this, uh, map from 1701.
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Basically, I've discovered
a literal treasure map
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created 320 years ago
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that strongly appears
to tie the Concepción treasure
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to the Oak Island area.
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I find that interesting.
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NARRATOR:
In the Oak Island war room,
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theorist Scott Clarke
is presenting his research
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that the English nobleman
Sir William Phips
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may have transported
a vast cache of Spanish silver
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to Oak Island sometime
in the late 17th century.
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Silver that was salvaged
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from the famed treasure wreck
known as the Concepción.
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So, the map is titled
"The English Empire in America."
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It was published
in an 1853 book that I own.
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Newfoundland, Canada,
Hudson's Bay and Colonies.
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It was created by Herman Moll,
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published 13 years
after Phips's 1688 voyage
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to the Concepción site.
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Aside from being
an excellent, prolific mapmaker,
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Herman Moll was known
for his interesting circle
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of merchants, seafaring men
and intellectual friends.
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It is written
that from these friends of Moll,
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uh, Moll gained a fair bit
of privileged information
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that was sometimes
later conveyed on his maps.
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I believe that's exactly what
occurred on this particular map.
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Overall, the map seems normal
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except for two
very interesting additions.
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It specifically shows the wreck
of the Concepción on the map.
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The specific location
of the Concepción shipwreck
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is labeled
"Sir William Phips Plate Rack."
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So, "plate"
specifically meant silver
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and was derived
from the Spanish word "plata,"
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and "rack" was an
old-fashioned term for "wreck."
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The second anomaly
is especially interesting.
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In New Scotland,
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along with the usually labeled
Port-Royal and LaHave,
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Moll has added La Plata.
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Like, he literally named it
La Plata, "the silver."
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- That's right where Oak Island is.
- CLARKE: Exactly.
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When you look
at the-the modern map,
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La Plata, it almost certainly is
in Mahone Bay area.
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RICK:
That is remarkable.
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NARRATOR:
A map created in 1701
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of New Scotland or Nova Scotia
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depicting an area in Mahone Bay
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where Oak Island is located
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as "La Plata" or "the silver"?
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You'd think they'd label it
"the gold" for "gold river,"
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but that's the silver for...
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He specifically mentions
"the silver."
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-So, why would he do... why would he that?
-JACK: Yeah.
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NARRATOR:
Could Scott Clarke be correct
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that he has found
an actual treasure map
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made prior to the discovery
of the Money Pit
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connecting Sir William Phips
and the vast silver treasure
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to the Oak Island mystery?
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If so, could that explain
the high levels of silver
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that the team
has recently detected
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in the Money Pit area?
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- Wow.
- CLARKE: So, Captain Andrew Belcher
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was intimately connected
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with Sir William Phips.
So, basically,
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the accomplice that Phips had,
it's Captain Andrew Belcher.
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DOUG:
Wow.
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RICK:
Wow. That's very interesting.
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CLARKE: He was one of the most
connected men in-in New England.
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He-he owned 20 ships.
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He had a vast shipping network.
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His son was the first
American-born Freemason.
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So, they were
the highest Freemasons.
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They were the governors.
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They were directly tied
to Oak Island.
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NARRATOR: From the beginning
of the hunt for treasure on Oak Island,
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Freemasonry has been
at the center of the mystery.
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Not only have Masonic symbols--
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Such as triangles
and carvings of the letter "G,"
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representing
the divine creator--
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Been found across the island,
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but many
of the most prominent searchers,
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including
Franklin Delano Roosevelt,
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were members
of this secretive fraternity,
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which curiously descended
from the medieval order
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of the Knights Templar.
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Has Scott Clarke,
a Freemason himself,
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just revealed
why that connection
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has been so prevalent
for more than two centuries
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and also
what they were looking for?
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I think
because Captain Andrew Belcher
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now has arisen to, certainly,
a person of interest,
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we need to dedicate some assets
to trying to figure out
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who the man was,
what his connections were.
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There must be more information
about him and his progeny,
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and that may lead us somewhere.
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I like it
because you have treasure
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and you have people
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and you have Oak Island
all tied together.
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Whereas a lot of times, we have
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the theory of treasure
and the people
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who could have done it,
but the tie to Oak Island
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- is a little sketchy.
- Right.
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- You've given us a lot to consider.
- RICK: Yes.
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- ALEX: Yeah.
- CHARLES: Yeah.
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RICK:
Thank you, Scott.
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- We appreciate it.
- Thank you. Thanks, guys.
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DOUG:
Impressive research.
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NARRATOR:
Later that afternoon...
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CHARLES:
Here's Craig
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- coming in now.
- NARRATOR: Craig Tester
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joins Charles Barkhouse,
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geologist Terry Matheson
and treasure hunter Dan Henskee
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at the Money Pit
to continue monitoring
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the drilling operation
in Borehole AB-13.5.
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CHARLES:
We got a core coming.
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- Yep.
- NARRATOR: A borehole
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where they hope to encounter
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a man-made cavern or chamber
some 70 feet underground.
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- TERRY: How you doing, Craig?
- Good, good.
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- How deep are we?
- We're down to, uh, 67 feet.
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There's no bubble or blowout.
Not this time.
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Oh, look.
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TEDFORD:
Let me take it.
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All water.
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- TERRY: Hey, Adam. - Hey.
- What you got, Adam?
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- 77.
- CHARLES: 77.
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- Thank you. - Okay.
- CRAIG: Okay.
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I-It's-it's
dense above and below.
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Yet, at the same time,
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you see no particular artifact
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- or anything to punctuate.
- CRAIG: Yeah.
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TERRY: Unfortunately,
no cavity. No opening.
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It's that cobble right there
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and all the cobbles
we're encountering,
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I think,
have a lot to do with it.
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NARRATOR:
Although the team
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is currently drilling
only two and half feet
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from where they hit
a mysterious void
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at a depth of some 70 feet
just one week ago,
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it appears AB-13.5
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has missed the target.
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MARTY:
Maybe we just missed because
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having found
and having ascertained
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that there are
these very anomalous amounts
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of gold and silver in the water
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and on the metal
in the area of this exploration,
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that does lead me to believe
we might be close.
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CHARLES: Do you have
another hole lined up?
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- We'll go north.
- Okay. - Okay.
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- Another mystery rather than an answer.
- CRAIG: Yeah.
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NARRATOR: While members
of the team prepare to drill
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their next target
in the Money Pit...
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GARY: This looks like a
good starting point, guys.
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- Start down here.
- NARRATOR: metal detection expert Gary Drayton,
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along with Rick
and Marty's nephews
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David and Peter Fornetti,
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have returned to Lot 4,
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located on the western side
of the island.
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It is in this area
that the team has recently found
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a number of compelling clues,
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including
a cutting and shaping tool
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known as an adze
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and
a gold-plated English button,
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both of which were dated
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to as early
as the late 17th century.
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RICK: Lot 4 has, uh,
given us some surprises
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in terms of Gary's
metal detecting finds
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and I think we need to take
another hard look at this area.
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I think it's always important
to-to revisit, recheck.
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And this might provide us
with a few more clues.
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(beeping)
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GARY:
There we go.
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We've definitely got...
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a piece of metal here
worth digging.
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- Right under there.
- Right there?
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GARY:
Yep.
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Oh, there it is. Yep.
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00:17:26,879 --> 00:17:28,379
That's a tin can lid.
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Dang.
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All right,
into the trash pouch it goes.
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And then we don't have
to flag that.
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No, we don't have
to flag any trash.
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- That's probably just washed in.
- Yep.
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(beeping)
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GARY:
Got a signal here.
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You can see it
on the surface there.
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It's right on the surface, mate.
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Wow, this is fantastic.
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GARY:
Oh, man. That's cool.
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Old piece of copper sheeting.
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NARRATOR:
While searching Lot 4
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on the western side
of Oak Island...
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Not sure what it's off.
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Gary Drayton,
along with brothers
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David and Peter Fornetti
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have just found
a potentially significant clue.
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Cool little find.
Right on the surface as well.
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I do believe some of this stuff
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is coming
from this beach erosion.
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I always like finding old pieces
of copper sheathing like this,
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especially on the beach,
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because, uh, most of the time
it's marine-related.
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'Cause back in the day,
it was used to line
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the hulls of the boats
to protect them from the worms.
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And it's called sheeting
or sheathing,
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and it was basically
the duct tape of the day.
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- What years did they do that?
- Uh, mainly in the 1700s.
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- Mm-hmm.
- Golden age of piracy, actually, 1650 to 1750.
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NARRATOR: Possible copper
sheathing from a large sailing vessel?
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And potentially dating back
to the 17th century?
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Could Gary, David and Peter
have just found
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more ship-related evidence
predating the discovery
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of the Money Pit
by more than a century?
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And if so,
could it also help support
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Scott Clarke's theory
regarding an operation
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by Sir William Phips
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and Freemason
Captain Andrew Belcher
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to hide a vast cache of silver
and possibly gold
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on Oak Island?
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GARY:
I have actually found,
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on Spanish galleon sites,
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copper sheeting
that's this thin.
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But we'll take it back
to the archaeology trailer.
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DAVID F.:
Great.
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GARY:
That's a really nice find.
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NARRATOR:
The following morning,
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as the drilling operation
continues
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in the Money Pit area...
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GARY:
All it takes is one good find.
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PETER:
Maybe in this scoop right here.
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GARY:
You got that right, mate.
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NARRATOR:
Gary, David and Peter
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have joined treasure hunter
Michael John
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and heavy equipment operator
Billy Gerhardt
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as they continue investigating
the southern edge
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of the mysterious
triangle-shaped swamp.
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GARY:
Pete, you and I, we've found
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a lot of ship spikes and wharf
pins all along this stretch.
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- Yeah.
- That's why I'm surprised
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we haven't found
any of those yet.
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00:20:31,396 --> 00:20:32,980
Yeah, and those were only, what,
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six inches to a foot down?
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- Yeah.
- And now we're digging
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- six feet down.
- Yeah.
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GARY:
But what we have been finding
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is some really cool,
interesting pieces of wood
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- from, uh, like, an old sailing ship.
- Yeah.
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GARY: Let's find some
good stuff. You ready?
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All right, mate.
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NARRATOR: In recent weeks, the
team has recovered a number of clues
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in this area that could also
help validate
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Scott Clarke's theory,
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including possible
deck planking,
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as well as tools
related to ships
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and a trapezoid-shaped piece
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from a believed cargo boat that
was dated to as early as 1680.
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Come on, metal, where are you?
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Well, yeah, that stands out.
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One more for the pile.
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That's a very interesting piece
of wood.
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It's very similar
to some of the planking
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that we found,
but this is irregular.
489
00:21:35,452 --> 00:21:37,786
It's wider at this end
and thinner there.
490
00:21:37,871 --> 00:21:42,708
Obviously, it was shaped by man,
and that stands out.
491
00:21:42,792 --> 00:21:45,052
- Yeah.
- I mean, what would you call that?
492
00:21:45,137 --> 00:21:47,463
Decking or siding?
493
00:21:47,547 --> 00:21:49,715
- MICHAEL J.: Probably decking.
- Yeah.
494
00:21:49,799 --> 00:21:52,059
NARRATOR:
Could Gary be correct that Billy
495
00:21:52,144 --> 00:21:56,147
has just recovered another piece
connected to a large ship?
496
00:21:57,891 --> 00:21:59,734
In 1969,
497
00:21:59,893 --> 00:22:02,570
the esteemed landowner
and treasure hunter Fred Nolan
498
00:22:02,729 --> 00:22:04,897
drained the swamp
499
00:22:04,981 --> 00:22:07,483
and was astonished
to discover his own trove
500
00:22:07,567 --> 00:22:09,651
of ship-related artifacts.
501
00:22:09,736 --> 00:22:13,238
These included scuppers
and even part of a mast.
502
00:22:13,323 --> 00:22:17,084
The operation made Fred
speculate that the swamp
503
00:22:17,169 --> 00:22:19,495
may have been
artificially created
504
00:22:19,579 --> 00:22:22,581
in order to hide
an entire treasure galleon.
505
00:22:22,674 --> 00:22:26,085
Could the potentially
ship-related discoveries
506
00:22:26,169 --> 00:22:28,420
that the team continues
to make in the swamp
507
00:22:28,513 --> 00:22:33,517
not only support Fred's theory
but also Scott Clarke's?
508
00:22:33,602 --> 00:22:35,761
GARY:
Well, definitely a-another piece
509
00:22:35,845 --> 00:22:38,606
that we can maybe have C-14'd
510
00:22:38,690 --> 00:22:40,432
and have the marine
archaeologist
511
00:22:40,517 --> 00:22:42,017
put some eyes on it.
512
00:22:42,110 --> 00:22:43,527
We'll definitely
get it looked at.
513
00:22:43,612 --> 00:22:44,862
- I'll put this to one side.
- Yeah.
514
00:22:53,363 --> 00:22:54,622
GARY:
I'd like to see some coins
515
00:22:54,706 --> 00:22:56,031
- coming up here.
- Yeah.
516
00:22:56,124 --> 00:22:57,958
This is the edge of the beach.
517
00:22:58,043 --> 00:23:00,127
Anything that got washed off
that stone roadway as well
518
00:23:00,212 --> 00:23:02,788
would be really cool.
519
00:23:02,881 --> 00:23:04,123
All right.
520
00:23:04,207 --> 00:23:05,841
- I'm gonna get stuck in.
- Okay.
521
00:23:10,797 --> 00:23:12,723
GARY:
Now, that is interesting.
522
00:23:12,808 --> 00:23:14,967
- PETER: Yeah, you got something?
- Yeah,
523
00:23:15,051 --> 00:23:16,185
I do think this is something.
524
00:23:21,641 --> 00:23:22,891
Look, shaped at both ends.
525
00:23:22,976 --> 00:23:24,485
Oh, yeah.
526
00:23:24,569 --> 00:23:27,813
GARY: Looks like it's
beveled, it's got that bow in it.
527
00:23:27,897 --> 00:23:29,490
NARRATOR: At the southern
edge of the swamp,
528
00:23:29,574 --> 00:23:31,984
metal detection expert
Gary Drayton
529
00:23:32,068 --> 00:23:34,829
and other members of the team
have just made
530
00:23:34,913 --> 00:23:36,822
a potentially
important discovery.
531
00:23:36,915 --> 00:23:38,907
What are you thinking?
532
00:23:38,992 --> 00:23:41,001
GARY:
Definitely shaped.
533
00:23:41,161 --> 00:23:45,673
It kind of looks like it would
be inside a small boat, maybe.
534
00:23:45,757 --> 00:23:48,083
- Mm-hmm.
- The rails across.
535
00:23:48,168 --> 00:23:50,594
- That's definitely man-made.
- PETER: I was thinking that, too.
536
00:23:50,679 --> 00:23:53,088
NARRATOR:
A wooden fragment,
537
00:23:53,173 --> 00:23:56,016
potentially from a smaller type
of nautical vessel?
538
00:23:56,101 --> 00:24:00,095
Could it be connected
to the trapezoid-shaped artifact
539
00:24:00,180 --> 00:24:02,773
dating back as early
as the 1680s
540
00:24:02,858 --> 00:24:06,018
that was found in this area
one week ago?
541
00:24:06,111 --> 00:24:10,522
It was the opinion
of geoscientist Dr. Ian Spooner
542
00:24:10,607 --> 00:24:13,192
that it may have been
part of a longboat
543
00:24:13,285 --> 00:24:16,120
used to unload cargo from
a much larger sailing ship.
544
00:24:17,614 --> 00:24:18,789
BILLY: That's from
that two to three feet.
545
00:24:18,948 --> 00:24:20,199
Yeah.
546
00:24:20,292 --> 00:24:21,950
Seems like we're finding
most of the pieces of wood
547
00:24:22,043 --> 00:24:25,037
at about two to three feet deep.
548
00:24:25,121 --> 00:24:26,881
Yeah.
549
00:24:26,965 --> 00:24:28,624
NARRATOR:
Could these finds be related
550
00:24:28,708 --> 00:24:30,626
to the pieces of cargo barrels
551
00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:33,471
found near the stone wharf
one year ago?
552
00:24:33,630 --> 00:24:36,381
And if so,
could they also be related
553
00:24:36,466 --> 00:24:40,728
to the traces of silver recently
detected deep in the Money Pit?
554
00:24:40,887 --> 00:24:43,397
MARTY: There are all
kinds of things of significance
555
00:24:43,482 --> 00:24:45,390
in the swamp at this point.
556
00:24:45,475 --> 00:24:48,310
We are finding bits and pieces
in there from a ship.
557
00:24:48,394 --> 00:24:50,395
So, is there a ship in the swamp
558
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,314
or are there bits of a ship
in the swamp
559
00:24:52,407 --> 00:24:54,575
that were used for other things?
560
00:24:54,659 --> 00:24:56,911
We haven't got
an answer to that yet.
561
00:24:56,995 --> 00:24:59,163
- PETER: That one's really interesting.
- GARY: Yeah.
562
00:24:59,322 --> 00:25:00,489
- Yeah. Put them together.
- GARY: Well...
563
00:25:00,582 --> 00:25:02,324
Let's keep these to the side.
564
00:25:02,408 --> 00:25:03,659
- PETER: Yeah.
- Perfect.
565
00:25:03,743 --> 00:25:06,420
GARY:
God, this is fun.
566
00:25:06,579 --> 00:25:09,173
NARRATOR: As the investigation
in the swamp continues...
567
00:25:11,084 --> 00:25:12,918
later that afternoon...
568
00:25:13,011 --> 00:25:15,337
- ALEX: Hey, Carmen.
- CARMEN: Hey, how's she going?
569
00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:16,764
How are you? Good to see you.
570
00:25:16,923 --> 00:25:18,590
Thank you for stopping by.
571
00:25:18,675 --> 00:25:20,935
NARRATOR: Alex Lagina
and his cousin David
572
00:25:21,019 --> 00:25:23,771
are meeting with blacksmithing
expert Carmen Legge
573
00:25:23,930 --> 00:25:25,606
in the research center.
574
00:25:25,690 --> 00:25:28,016
So, here they are.
575
00:25:28,101 --> 00:25:29,935
NARRATOR: to get his analysis
on one of the team's
576
00:25:30,019 --> 00:25:33,188
most recent finds.
577
00:25:33,273 --> 00:25:38,193
So, for background,
this is from Lot 4.
578
00:25:38,286 --> 00:25:39,611
DAVID F.:
We were just on the beach
579
00:25:39,696 --> 00:25:41,622
at Lot 4, it was not buried.
580
00:25:41,706 --> 00:25:43,365
It was just sitting
on the surface there.
581
00:25:43,458 --> 00:25:44,667
We'd be curious
to get your thoughts.
582
00:25:56,721 --> 00:25:57,721
ALEX:
Hmm.
583
00:26:02,978 --> 00:26:05,062
There seem to be some nail holes
and other things.
584
00:26:07,816 --> 00:26:08,857
ALEX:
Yep.
585
00:26:10,476 --> 00:26:11,569
Mm-hmm.
586
00:26:17,409 --> 00:26:18,576
Ah...
587
00:26:21,821 --> 00:26:23,247
ALEX:
Very interesting.
588
00:26:24,416 --> 00:26:25,708
So, is this the corner
of the box?
589
00:26:29,746 --> 00:26:31,088
DAVID F.: What would you use
copper sheeting for?
590
00:26:36,678 --> 00:26:38,503
DAVID F.:
Were there certain practices
591
00:26:38,597 --> 00:26:43,091
or certain, um, boxes
that would consistently have
592
00:26:43,176 --> 00:26:44,268
that type of sheeting on it?
593
00:26:46,846 --> 00:26:48,439
- Treasure.
- (chuckles) Right.
594
00:26:54,112 --> 00:26:56,614
When you say, "very old,"
how old do you mean?
595
00:26:59,442 --> 00:27:00,284
Um...
596
00:27:06,708 --> 00:27:07,532
ALEX:
Wow, that's pretty old.
597
00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:09,710
- Yeah.
- (laughter)
598
00:27:09,869 --> 00:27:14,206
NARRATOR: Copper sheeting
from a possible treasure chest
599
00:27:14,290 --> 00:27:17,709
that could date
as far back as 1100 AD?
600
00:27:17,802 --> 00:27:20,554
Although the team has found
a number of clues
601
00:27:20,639 --> 00:27:24,383
believed to be of
17th-century origin on Lot 4,
602
00:27:24,467 --> 00:27:27,811
they have also been searching
the area for evidence
603
00:27:27,896 --> 00:27:30,889
to support the research
of the late author Zena Halpern.
604
00:27:30,973 --> 00:27:35,977
In 2016, Zena presented
the team with two maps
605
00:27:36,062 --> 00:27:38,155
indicating that members
of the Knights Templar
606
00:27:38,314 --> 00:27:40,982
had visited Oak Island
on numerous occasions
607
00:27:41,067 --> 00:27:44,328
between the 12th
and 14th centuries.
608
00:27:44,412 --> 00:27:48,323
Could this potential piece
of believed treasure chest,
609
00:27:48,408 --> 00:27:51,418
just like the paved area
discovered two years ago
610
00:27:51,577 --> 00:27:55,923
in the swamp, which Dr. Spooner
dated to as early as 1200 AD,
611
00:27:56,007 --> 00:28:00,177
and the 14th-century lead cross
found at Smith's Cove
612
00:28:00,261 --> 00:28:04,098
all offer evidence that Zena's
theory could have validity?
613
00:28:04,257 --> 00:28:09,687
And if so, might it suggest
that Sir William Phips's partner
614
00:28:09,846 --> 00:28:11,847
Captain Andrew Belcher,
a Freemason,
615
00:28:11,931 --> 00:28:14,024
may have had secret knowledge
616
00:28:14,109 --> 00:28:17,602
of an existing Templar
treasure vault on Oak Island?
617
00:28:17,687 --> 00:28:21,699
It's always been suggested that
Oak Island was a repository,
618
00:28:21,783 --> 00:28:23,867
perhaps over generations
619
00:28:23,952 --> 00:28:26,111
by multiple people.
620
00:28:26,204 --> 00:28:29,030
So these finds that are
being made from Lot 4
621
00:28:29,115 --> 00:28:32,117
may be some evidence
that multiple people
622
00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:35,462
may have deposited
a treasure here on Oak Island.
623
00:28:35,547 --> 00:28:37,881
I don't know that I'm correct,
but it's a possibility.
624
00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:46,056
Small.
625
00:28:46,215 --> 00:28:48,142
See, that's more the size
of what I was thinking of
626
00:28:48,301 --> 00:28:49,727
as a treasure chest, because...
627
00:28:51,813 --> 00:28:52,896
It'd be heavy.
628
00:28:53,055 --> 00:28:54,231
Right.
629
00:28:54,315 --> 00:28:57,234
ALEX: But it-it's on
an area of the island
630
00:28:57,318 --> 00:29:00,395
that nothing, in our records,
happened there,
631
00:29:00,488 --> 00:29:02,656
other than the Zena Halpern map.
632
00:29:02,741 --> 00:29:04,533
- Right.
- So...
633
00:29:07,236 --> 00:29:09,163
Okay, well, that's tantalizing.
634
00:29:09,322 --> 00:29:10,914
DAVID F.:
It's incredible.
635
00:29:11,073 --> 00:29:13,083
And it just kind of validates
Lot 4
636
00:29:13,242 --> 00:29:14,585
and the interest
that we have there.
637
00:29:14,669 --> 00:29:16,920
- So, we certainly appreciate you coming out.
- Yeah.
638
00:29:20,425 --> 00:29:22,176
Well, as always,
we will go back out,
639
00:29:22,335 --> 00:29:24,428
we'll look and we'll give you
a call when we find something.
640
00:29:26,589 --> 00:29:28,173
- ALEX: Thanks, Carmen.
- DAVID F.: Thanks, Carmen.
641
00:29:28,266 --> 00:29:33,094
ALEX:
See you.
642
00:29:33,179 --> 00:29:35,180
NARRATOR: As a new day
begins on Oak Island,
643
00:29:35,264 --> 00:29:37,441
and while Rick Lagina oversees
644
00:29:37,525 --> 00:29:40,444
his search for clues
and possible valuables
645
00:29:40,603 --> 00:29:42,196
at the southern edge
of the swamp...
646
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,530
RICK:
You gonna go over it again?
647
00:29:43,615 --> 00:29:45,866
GARY:
Yeah. Just in case.
648
00:29:45,950 --> 00:29:48,443
NARRATOR:
in the research center...
649
00:29:48,528 --> 00:29:50,445
MARTY: I got all the brains
that we need right here.
650
00:29:50,538 --> 00:29:51,780
We need them all
for this project.
651
00:29:51,864 --> 00:29:54,533
NARRATOR: Marty Lagina
has called a meeting
652
00:29:54,617 --> 00:29:58,879
with their partner Craig Tester
and project Manager Scott Barlow
653
00:29:59,038 --> 00:30:02,549
to discuss the current drilling
operation in the Money Pit.
654
00:30:02,708 --> 00:30:05,719
MARTY:
Well, I have a theory
655
00:30:05,804 --> 00:30:07,879
that I want to run past you
guys, and it's about that hole
656
00:30:07,964 --> 00:30:09,556
we drilled where
we got the air-- what is it?
657
00:30:09,715 --> 00:30:11,800
- AB-13.
- AB-13.
658
00:30:11,893 --> 00:30:13,301
I've been thinking about it.
659
00:30:13,386 --> 00:30:16,888
So, we drill these wells
and we hit this air,
660
00:30:16,981 --> 00:30:21,393
and we're virtually sure
that it's some kind of gas trap,
661
00:30:21,486 --> 00:30:22,978
and it's not natural.
662
00:30:23,062 --> 00:30:23,987
Got to be man-made, right?
663
00:30:24,146 --> 00:30:26,565
- Yeah.
- Okay. So, let's say I'm wrong
664
00:30:26,658 --> 00:30:30,661
about the possibility
that there's an offset chamber.
665
00:30:30,745 --> 00:30:32,746
What argues against that
is it seems
666
00:30:32,831 --> 00:30:34,915
like we'd have
more air, then, right?
667
00:30:34,999 --> 00:30:36,667
If it filled up
an entire chamber.
668
00:30:36,751 --> 00:30:38,669
- Right.
- Yeah.
669
00:30:38,828 --> 00:30:40,412
You know I've been
a flood tunnel doubter...
670
00:30:40,496 --> 00:30:41,505
- CRAIG: Mm-hmm.
- forever,
671
00:30:41,589 --> 00:30:44,091
but maybe the flood tunnel
does exist.
672
00:30:44,175 --> 00:30:45,500
Right.
673
00:30:45,585 --> 00:30:48,512
NARRATOR:
One week ago,
674
00:30:48,596 --> 00:30:50,097
when the team drilled
into the mysterious
675
00:30:50,181 --> 00:30:52,933
air-filled void
some 70 feet deep
676
00:30:53,092 --> 00:30:54,759
in the Money Pit area...
677
00:30:54,844 --> 00:30:56,520
TERRY:
What the heck?
678
00:30:56,679 --> 00:30:59,690
they made
a surprising discovery.
679
00:30:59,774 --> 00:31:01,358
TERRY:
It almost looks like grass,
680
00:31:01,517 --> 00:31:03,360
maybe eelgrass or something
washing in.
681
00:31:05,613 --> 00:31:08,615
NARRATOR: Eelgrass,
along with coconut fiber,
682
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:12,444
was discovered in 1850
at Smith's Cove.
683
00:31:12,528 --> 00:31:16,290
These materials were covering
five stone box drains,
684
00:31:16,374 --> 00:31:19,042
and were believed to be acting
as a kind of filter
685
00:31:19,127 --> 00:31:22,704
to keep debris
out of a man-made flood tunnel.
686
00:31:22,788 --> 00:31:27,125
A flood tunnel feeding seawater
directly into the Money Pit.
687
00:31:27,209 --> 00:31:29,294
I mean, if you guys don't mind,
688
00:31:29,378 --> 00:31:31,880
I'm gonna draw you what I think
may be, as a possibility...
689
00:31:31,964 --> 00:31:34,633
- Sure.
- and then you tell me if I'm crazy or not.
690
00:31:34,726 --> 00:31:37,227
MARTY: Okay, we got
the elephant's nose, right?
691
00:31:38,638 --> 00:31:39,730
Yeah...
692
00:31:39,889 --> 00:31:42,641
Tell me if I'm about right,
Money Pit-ish?
693
00:31:42,725 --> 00:31:44,484
- Yep.
- Smith's Cove,
694
00:31:44,569 --> 00:31:46,737
here's our cofferdam.
695
00:31:46,821 --> 00:31:49,898
If there was a flood tunnel,
it would've gone more or less
696
00:31:49,991 --> 00:31:51,733
the shortest distance, right?
697
00:31:51,817 --> 00:31:53,160
- Mm-hmm.
- And I believe
698
00:31:53,244 --> 00:31:54,903
there's the Cave-In Pit.
699
00:31:54,996 --> 00:31:58,239
Okay, if I do an elevation view,
700
00:31:58,324 --> 00:32:01,159
here's sea level
in Smith's Cove,
701
00:32:01,243 --> 00:32:03,078
here's the Money Pit, original.
702
00:32:03,171 --> 00:32:04,504
And let's say the flood tunnel
703
00:32:04,589 --> 00:32:07,499
comes in down here
somewhere, right?
704
00:32:07,583 --> 00:32:10,761
Okay, so let's say,
when they dug this flood tunnel,
705
00:32:10,845 --> 00:32:15,098
all they would've had to do
is have a bump in it like that.
706
00:32:15,257 --> 00:32:17,008
You know,
either intentionally, boulder,
707
00:32:17,093 --> 00:32:18,185
for whatever reason you want.
708
00:32:18,269 --> 00:32:19,353
This wouldn't have interfered
709
00:32:19,512 --> 00:32:21,939
with its ability
to function at all, right?
710
00:32:22,098 --> 00:32:23,190
No.
711
00:32:23,274 --> 00:32:24,608
- Mm.
- MARTY: No. Okay.
712
00:32:24,767 --> 00:32:27,694
Over the years,
we put all kinds of air
713
00:32:27,779 --> 00:32:29,020
down here, right?
714
00:32:29,105 --> 00:32:30,438
We drilled all kinds of holes.
715
00:32:30,523 --> 00:32:32,607
Now, if that air
happened to find its way
716
00:32:32,692 --> 00:32:35,702
into this flood tunnel,
it would work its way up
717
00:32:35,861 --> 00:32:39,781
and get caught right there just
like a little bubble in a level.
718
00:32:39,865 --> 00:32:42,450
And this would be an obvious
place for introduced gas
719
00:32:42,535 --> 00:32:44,127
to try and find
its way out, right?
720
00:32:44,212 --> 00:32:45,620
If there's still something
that exists.
721
00:32:45,705 --> 00:32:47,130
I mean, it's just,
it's just perfect.
722
00:32:47,215 --> 00:32:50,208
It'd start working its way up
and get trapped right there.
723
00:32:50,301 --> 00:32:54,796
So, here we come along and we
just drilled into that, perhaps.
724
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,716
- That's my theory.
- Hmm.
725
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,143
MARTY: If the flood
tunnel came from the shore,
726
00:33:00,228 --> 00:33:03,555
it wouldn't necessarily
come down perfectly, would it?
727
00:33:03,639 --> 00:33:06,141
Let's say it was constructed,
they had to go up and over
728
00:33:06,225 --> 00:33:08,652
a rock, whatever,
any number of reasons.
729
00:33:08,736 --> 00:33:11,563
And if it has
just a little bow in it,
730
00:33:11,647 --> 00:33:14,232
that would be a perfect place
to catch air.
731
00:33:14,325 --> 00:33:18,236
We introduced a lot of air
into the Money Pit area
732
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,572
when we were drilling with air
several years ago.
733
00:33:20,656 --> 00:33:23,074
That air, if there is
a flood tunnel,
734
00:33:23,167 --> 00:33:25,168
could've encountered it,
it would've went straight up.
735
00:33:25,253 --> 00:33:26,327
When it got
to that little bubble,
736
00:33:26,412 --> 00:33:27,996
it would've gotten trapped
737
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,923
and it would've been
under pressure.
738
00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:32,175
NARRATOR:
Could Marty be correct
739
00:33:32,334 --> 00:33:33,927
that the team's
drilling operations
740
00:33:34,012 --> 00:33:36,087
over the past several years
741
00:33:36,172 --> 00:33:39,266
caused air to be trapped
in a man-made flood tunnel?
742
00:33:39,425 --> 00:33:41,092
A flood tunnel connected
743
00:33:41,177 --> 00:33:43,353
to the legendary
Money Pit treasure vault?
744
00:33:45,606 --> 00:33:47,274
I'm more of a believer
after all that,
745
00:33:47,358 --> 00:33:49,109
that the flood tunnel
does exist.
746
00:33:49,268 --> 00:33:51,102
Maybe we just found it.
747
00:33:51,187 --> 00:33:52,362
I think that's very reasonable.
748
00:33:52,521 --> 00:33:54,272
It's certainly one
of the more interesting spots
749
00:33:54,356 --> 00:33:55,940
that we've drilled into
in the Money Pit.
750
00:33:56,034 --> 00:33:58,359
MARTY: And it's about the
only thing I can think of, honestly,
751
00:33:58,444 --> 00:34:01,121
- that would be just designed to catch air.
- Yeah.
752
00:34:01,205 --> 00:34:04,115
NARRATOR: With the
team's plans to begin digging
753
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,451
up to four ten-foot-wide
steel-cased shafts
754
00:34:06,535 --> 00:34:08,453
in less than two weeks,
755
00:34:08,546 --> 00:34:11,706
confirming the location
of the legendary flood tunnel
756
00:34:11,791 --> 00:34:15,886
and cutting it off could greatly
improve their ability to recover
757
00:34:15,970 --> 00:34:19,639
the source of silver and gold
detected earlier this year.
758
00:34:19,799 --> 00:34:22,142
The difficulties in the Money
Pit have always have been
759
00:34:22,226 --> 00:34:26,313
associated with water flooding
in from a possible flood tunnel.
760
00:34:26,397 --> 00:34:29,816
If we can find a tunnel
and block the ocean water,
761
00:34:29,901 --> 00:34:31,902
that would be huge.
762
00:34:32,061 --> 00:34:34,654
Do we have enough time
for one more hole?
763
00:34:34,739 --> 00:34:36,231
I would think so.
764
00:34:36,324 --> 00:34:37,324
- I think so, yeah.
- MARTY: Okay.
765
00:34:37,483 --> 00:34:38,399
Sounds like a plan.
766
00:34:38,484 --> 00:34:40,243
We'll just see
how things unfold.
767
00:34:40,328 --> 00:34:41,661
- CRAIG: Sounds good.
- MARTY: Okay.
768
00:34:41,746 --> 00:34:42,746
Well, thanks, guys.
769
00:34:44,832 --> 00:34:46,500
NARRATOR:
Later that afternoon...
770
00:34:46,659 --> 00:34:48,543
TERRY:
Here it comes.
771
00:34:51,413 --> 00:34:53,757
- I've got high hopes for this one.
- Yeah.
772
00:34:53,841 --> 00:34:56,918
NARRATOR: as members of
the team begin a drilling operation
773
00:34:57,002 --> 00:34:59,337
in the hopes of cutting
off the flood tunnel
774
00:34:59,421 --> 00:35:02,265
to aid their upcoming
excavation of the Money Pit...
775
00:35:02,424 --> 00:35:05,510
GARY:
Next shovel, we go for glory.
776
00:35:05,594 --> 00:35:07,687
at the southern edge
of the swamp...
777
00:35:07,772 --> 00:35:10,932
metal detection expert
Gary Drayton
778
00:35:11,016 --> 00:35:12,776
along with members of the team
779
00:35:12,860 --> 00:35:15,028
continue searching
for vital clues
780
00:35:15,113 --> 00:35:17,948
that could also help solve
the Oak Island mystery.
781
00:35:19,700 --> 00:35:21,201
What do you think of this, Dave?
782
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,453
Oh, that's interesting.
783
00:35:23,612 --> 00:35:26,206
- We should definitely show Gary.
- PETER: Yeah.
784
00:35:26,290 --> 00:35:28,458
- It looks like there's a pretty good hole in it, though.
- Oh.
785
00:35:28,543 --> 00:35:29,868
PETER:
Gary, what do you make of this?
786
00:35:29,952 --> 00:35:31,545
Oh, yeah.
787
00:35:31,629 --> 00:35:34,881
That looks like a-a square hole.
788
00:35:34,966 --> 00:35:38,293
Oh, that's interesting, mate,
'cause older fasteners,
789
00:35:38,377 --> 00:35:40,879
especially iron,
were square-shanked.
790
00:35:40,963 --> 00:35:43,882
We haven't found that many
pieces of wood with holes in.
791
00:35:43,966 --> 00:35:46,726
So, do you think that's marine?
792
00:35:46,811 --> 00:35:49,479
Yeah, I mean,
we're right at the side
793
00:35:49,564 --> 00:35:51,898
to the southeast corner
of the swamp,
794
00:35:51,983 --> 00:35:54,893
we're looking for,
potentially, a ship.
795
00:35:54,986 --> 00:35:58,071
That's the type of find
you want to be pulling up,
796
00:35:58,230 --> 00:36:00,490
wood with square holes in.
797
00:36:00,575 --> 00:36:03,493
Circular-shanked fasteners
798
00:36:03,652 --> 00:36:06,496
came in round about
the early 1700s,
799
00:36:06,581 --> 00:36:09,249
and then
in the Industrial Revolution,
800
00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:10,992
everything was round.
801
00:36:11,076 --> 00:36:13,661
So it could possibly
be earlier than the 1700s.
802
00:36:13,746 --> 00:36:15,079
Oh, yeah.
803
00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:17,832
Yeah, that's actually
the date range I'd put it in,
804
00:36:17,917 --> 00:36:21,261
um, mid-1500s to mid-1700s,
805
00:36:21,345 --> 00:36:23,597
with the square-shanked nails.
806
00:36:23,681 --> 00:36:28,009
NARRATOR: Another wooden
artifact potentially related to a ship?
807
00:36:28,093 --> 00:36:32,013
And possibly dating
to before 1700?
808
00:36:32,097 --> 00:36:35,025
If Gary is correct,
could this discovery
809
00:36:35,184 --> 00:36:37,944
offer more evidence
that the remains
810
00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:41,114
of a treasure galleon
really lies buried in the swamp?
811
00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:43,783
And might it also
further validate
812
00:36:43,868 --> 00:36:47,370
Scott Clarke's incredible theory
that Sir William Phips
813
00:36:47,529 --> 00:36:50,457
hid a vast cache
of silver on Oak Island?
814
00:36:50,616 --> 00:36:52,375
GARY:
That's fantastic.
815
00:36:52,534 --> 00:36:55,295
Pretty cool find, Pete.
Well done, mate.
816
00:36:55,379 --> 00:36:57,505
- Yeah.
- We got two more coming.
817
00:37:03,128 --> 00:37:04,212
PETER:
Hey, guys.
818
00:37:04,296 --> 00:37:05,463
Hey, guys.
819
00:37:05,547 --> 00:37:07,131
MARTY:
Come on over, Billy!
820
00:37:07,216 --> 00:37:09,809
We don't see
any chests piled up.
821
00:37:09,894 --> 00:37:11,645
GARY: Eh, no, and
I wish I could reach
822
00:37:11,804 --> 00:37:14,397
for my top pocket, but...
823
00:37:14,556 --> 00:37:17,058
the lack of metal's
a little bit frustrating.
824
00:37:17,142 --> 00:37:18,902
I mean, you guys found
some intriguing things.
825
00:37:18,986 --> 00:37:20,812
So, we found some
interesting things here,
826
00:37:20,905 --> 00:37:23,064
but obviously there's still more
on the search agenda,
827
00:37:23,157 --> 00:37:24,658
so I'd be curious
what-what's next.
828
00:37:24,742 --> 00:37:26,401
MARTY:
Well,
829
00:37:26,485 --> 00:37:27,994
the reason Rick and I
are here is--
830
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:31,081
I mean, we found
all kinds of neat stuff.
831
00:37:31,165 --> 00:37:33,157
You've done a great job,
832
00:37:33,242 --> 00:37:36,419
um, but for this year,
we're wrapping it up.
833
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,169
But we got cannisters coming,
834
00:37:45,263 --> 00:37:49,340
and, uh, we need the water so
we can use it at the wash plant.
835
00:37:49,425 --> 00:37:52,352
So, I think we're running
out of time in the swamp.
836
00:37:52,436 --> 00:37:54,688
- That's frustrating.
- PETER: Yeah.
837
00:37:56,941 --> 00:37:57,932
NARRATOR:
It is a difficult moment
838
00:37:58,025 --> 00:38:00,026
for brothers Rick
and Marty Lagina
839
00:38:00,185 --> 00:38:02,270
and members of their team.
840
00:38:02,354 --> 00:38:04,698
Despite all
the compelling evidence
841
00:38:04,782 --> 00:38:08,034
of ancient ship-related activity
recently unearthed
842
00:38:08,193 --> 00:38:09,777
in the triangle-shaped swamp,
843
00:38:09,870 --> 00:38:12,613
they will need to suspend
their search
844
00:38:12,698 --> 00:38:15,366
of the area
in less than two weeks.
845
00:38:15,459 --> 00:38:17,869
MARTY: Unfortunately,
we have to quit digging
846
00:38:17,962 --> 00:38:21,122
in the body of the swamp because
we're going to need water,
847
00:38:21,206 --> 00:38:23,800
and lots of water,
to run through the wash plant.
848
00:38:23,959 --> 00:38:26,210
We can't use seawater,
so we need fresh water
849
00:38:26,295 --> 00:38:28,888
to clean all the stuff
that's coming out
850
00:38:29,048 --> 00:38:30,223
as we dig in the Money Pit.
851
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:34,894
NARRATOR: As Rick,
Marty, Craig and the team
852
00:38:34,979 --> 00:38:37,814
begin excavating
the massive ten-foot-wide
853
00:38:37,973 --> 00:38:40,567
steel-cased shafts
across the Money Pit area,
854
00:38:40,726 --> 00:38:43,478
the tons of earth, or spoils,
855
00:38:43,571 --> 00:38:45,563
will be carefully sorted
and sifted
856
00:38:45,656 --> 00:38:49,659
for potential valuables in
an industrial-sized wash plant.
857
00:38:49,818 --> 00:38:52,653
The process,
which the team hopes will reveal
858
00:38:52,738 --> 00:38:54,998
tangible evidence
of the gold and silver
859
00:38:55,082 --> 00:38:57,500
detected earlier this year
in the Money Pit
860
00:38:57,585 --> 00:39:00,661
will require thousands
of gallons of water.
861
00:39:00,746 --> 00:39:03,247
Because the team
is not legally permitted
862
00:39:03,332 --> 00:39:05,925
to use ocean water
for the operation,
863
00:39:06,085 --> 00:39:09,504
the swamp, which today
is fed by a freshwater spring,
864
00:39:09,588 --> 00:39:11,255
is their only option.
865
00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:13,933
The enormity of the work
866
00:39:14,018 --> 00:39:16,094
that's about to proceed
in the Money Pit,
867
00:39:16,187 --> 00:39:19,272
I mean, it's all incumbent
upon washing that material,
868
00:39:19,357 --> 00:39:22,433
and... I think we need
to let this refill,
869
00:39:22,526 --> 00:39:24,268
to supply all the water.
870
00:39:24,353 --> 00:39:26,270
Yeah, no, that's right.
871
00:39:26,364 --> 00:39:28,856
So, finish up best you can,
Billy, you know, and, uh,
872
00:39:28,949 --> 00:39:30,784
we're gonna call it
a day and move on.
873
00:39:30,943 --> 00:39:32,118
- Yeah.
- MARTY: It's been good stuff.
874
00:39:32,277 --> 00:39:33,453
Good stuff came out of here.
875
00:39:33,537 --> 00:39:35,113
A whole bunch of science
has to be applied, yet.
876
00:39:35,197 --> 00:39:37,624
- Yep.
- A bunch of carbon dating.
877
00:39:37,708 --> 00:39:39,459
I think we yielded some
pretty interesting pieces.
878
00:39:39,543 --> 00:39:40,785
Right.
879
00:39:40,869 --> 00:39:42,545
GARY:
And look how much material
880
00:39:42,704 --> 00:39:44,539
you've moved, Billy,
881
00:39:44,632 --> 00:39:46,716
in-in just a small area
of the swamp.
882
00:39:46,801 --> 00:39:49,135
- I know.
- We, we'll never get out of here.
883
00:39:49,220 --> 00:39:51,638
- (laughter) - This is a
place we're coming back to.
884
00:39:51,722 --> 00:39:55,141
MARTY: If you look at the
percentage of the swamp we've dug,
885
00:39:55,300 --> 00:39:57,135
even though we've done
a lot of digging in the swamp,
886
00:39:57,219 --> 00:40:00,304
I'd say percentagewise,
certainly single digits.
887
00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,306
Five percent, maybe.
888
00:40:02,391 --> 00:40:05,485
And every time,
I believe without fail,
889
00:40:05,569 --> 00:40:09,823
every time, it's-it's yielded
interesting things.
890
00:40:09,982 --> 00:40:12,575
RICK:
I don't know, necessarily,
891
00:40:12,734 --> 00:40:15,736
that there's a treasure
component to the swamp,
892
00:40:15,830 --> 00:40:18,489
but I do believe that
there's more information
893
00:40:18,574 --> 00:40:20,575
in the body of the swamp.
894
00:40:20,668 --> 00:40:23,420
And so, I don't think
we're done yet.
895
00:40:23,579 --> 00:40:25,839
Before we go, I do want
to get to that area
896
00:40:25,998 --> 00:40:27,582
where the railing came from.
897
00:40:27,666 --> 00:40:29,083
- Right.
- How close are you?
898
00:40:29,176 --> 00:40:31,719
We're basically
right on top of that now.
899
00:40:33,172 --> 00:40:35,089
Okay. Well, let's finish up,
900
00:40:35,182 --> 00:40:36,182
because we're running
out of time
901
00:40:36,341 --> 00:40:37,842
and we've got big work
to do up there.
902
00:40:37,935 --> 00:40:39,844
- Yeah.
- You guys ready?
903
00:40:39,937 --> 00:40:41,679
- I'm ready for that.
- Yep. We're ready. - All right.
904
00:40:41,763 --> 00:40:44,098
-Let's finish up here.
-DAVID F.: All right. Sounds good.
905
00:40:44,183 --> 00:40:48,945
NARRATOR: If Rick, Marty and their
team can now be certain of anything,
906
00:40:49,104 --> 00:40:52,782
it is that answers surrounding
a 227-year-old mystery
907
00:40:52,941 --> 00:40:57,028
could be revealed anywhere
across Oak Island.
908
00:40:57,121 --> 00:40:59,038
But even though they must soon
suspend their search
909
00:40:59,198 --> 00:41:02,542
in the swamp, where evidence
of an incredible secret
910
00:41:02,701 --> 00:41:05,295
has been unearthed, it will aid
911
00:41:05,454 --> 00:41:08,965
their most historic dig
ever conducted in the Money Pit.
912
00:41:09,049 --> 00:41:12,793
There, they have found
scientific evidence
913
00:41:12,878 --> 00:41:17,307
of just what
that incredible secret could be.
914
00:41:19,468 --> 00:41:22,053
Next time
on The Curse of Oak Island...
915
00:41:22,137 --> 00:41:23,971
BRENNAN: Looks like
we got something, boys.
916
00:41:24,064 --> 00:41:25,640
- Three pieces of wood.
- TERRY: The only thing,
917
00:41:25,724 --> 00:41:28,151
usually, that will give us that
is a tunnel.
918
00:41:28,310 --> 00:41:31,070
- So, we ran C-14 on it.
- CRAIG: One time frame.
919
00:41:31,155 --> 00:41:32,647
Old, old, old.
920
00:41:32,740 --> 00:41:34,232
- (laughter)
- (horn honks)
921
00:41:34,316 --> 00:41:35,325
MARTY:
We are about to embark
922
00:41:35,409 --> 00:41:37,985
on the attempt
to recover valuables
923
00:41:38,070 --> 00:41:40,079
- lurking in the Money Pit.
- DAN H.: Here they come.
924
00:41:40,164 --> 00:41:41,581
MARTY:
We've got ten-foot cans
925
00:41:41,740 --> 00:41:43,249
coming in and we can dig it up.
926
00:41:43,408 --> 00:41:45,752
There is definitely,
without a doubt,
927
00:41:45,911 --> 00:41:47,328
- gold down there.
- (laughs)