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NARRATOR: Tonight on
The Curse of Oak Island...
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- (horn honks)
- ALEX: Look at that.
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That's really something.
(chuckles)
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That excavator looks really big.
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RICK: If there is a ship there,
then I want to see the evidence.
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That piece of bell metal
might be associated
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- with Portuguese.
- CHRISTA: The tin,
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it's been used
in the production of cannons.
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GARY:
Ooh, look at that.
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That is bloody cool, mate.
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CARMEN: You would
use a tool like this
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for smoothing timbers.
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- To sink a shaft.
- TERRY: Wow.
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Seems to me, it's a shaft wall.
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I can't explain it.
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NARRATOR: There is an
island in the North Atlantic
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where people
have been looking for
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an incredible treasure
for more than 200 years.
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So far, they have found
a stone slab
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with strange symbols
carved into it...
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man-made workings
that date to medieval times,
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and a lead cross
whose origin may be connected
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to the Knights Templar.
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To date, six men have died
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trying to solve the mystery.
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And according to legend,
one more will have to die
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before the treasure
can be found.
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MARTY:
Welcome to the war room, guys.
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We're here to talk about
where we can dig
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and where we can't dig
and where we should dig
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and where we're gonna dig.
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- Good.
- NARRATOR: It is the beginning
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of a new day on Oak Island,
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but before they proceed
with any new search activities
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in a quest to solve
a 226-year-old mystery,
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brothers Rick and Marty Lagina
gather in the war room
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with archaeologist Laird Niven
and other members of their team.
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- So, what can we do, Laird?
- LAIRD: Well...
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What can we dig
in the swamp and how?
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So, we've applied
for a swamp general permit,
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and that's been approved.
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- Oh.
- We do have permission
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to dig on the south side.
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The paved area
has also been approved.
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- Right now, it's the south of swamp...
- Yeah.
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- and the paved area.
- Yeah.
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- Okay.
- And we just have to be careful of the...
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Yeah, the-the circle thing.
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- Yeah. Yeah.
- Yeah.
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NARRATOR:
One month ago,
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while investigating
a stone pathway
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in the southeastern corner
of the swamp
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that may be leading
to the Money Pit...
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LIZ:
What you got?
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LAIRD:
I have a piece of pottery.
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NARRATOR:
Laird Niven unearthed pieces
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of indigenous Mi'kmaq pottery
that could be
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more than 500 years old.
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LAIRD: This one's the
most delicate I've ever seen.
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NARRATOR:
These discoveries led
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to the provincial Department of
Community, Culture and Heritage
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issuing a shocking mandate
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for search activities
outside the Money Pit area.
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LAIRD:
The archeologists asked
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that we stop down.
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We stop work at the two areas
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where we were
finding the artifacts.
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STEVE G.: We have free
range inside of the green.
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Any activity inside the green,
we're allowed to pursue.
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- MARTY: And the red?
- We need special permission
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to be inside of the red.
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The swamp was sort of
giving up its secrets
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right about the time
this happened.
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So, yeah, it-it's painful.
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But we have always moved forward
optimistically and hopefully,
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and that's how
we're gonna approach it.
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RICK: We know that there are
restrictions placed on our work
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by Communities, Culture
and Heritage.
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But we do have some permission--
Or permits, I should say--
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To dig along the edge
of the swamp road.
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You know, I-I've been completely
wrong about the swamp,
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and I'll freely admit it,
but I think every time
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we've dug of any substance,
we've found something.
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Right.
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Again, everything goes back
to Tom, your father,
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- his interest, and your interest.
- Yep.
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I asked you long ago,
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I said, "Tom, if there's
anything to find on Oak Island,
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where is it?"
What did you tell me?
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I said, "It's in the swamp."
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I said,
"That's where answers are,
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- to what we're looking for."
- There you go.
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Yeah.
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NARRATOR:
After the late landowner
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and treasure hunter Fred Nolan
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drained the swamp back in 1969
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and discovered several parts
of a sailing vessel,
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including a ship's mast,
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he became convinced
that the swamp
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had been artificially created
in order to hide
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the wreck of a massive
treasure galleon.
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Although Fred was never
able to prove it,
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over the past four years
working with Fred's son Tom...
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That is not something
that should be in a swamp.
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NARRATOR: Rick,
Marty, Craig and the team
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have made discoveries
in the brackish bog
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that support
the incredible theory.
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TERRY D.:
That is very impressive. Wow.
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NARRATOR: These finds
include the stone wharf
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in the southeastern corner,
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which historian Terry Deveau
believes
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could be of Portuguese origin...
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This is 16th-century and before.
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(laughs):
That's remarkable.
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NARRATOR: and
numerous wooden artifacts
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such as a possible piece
of ship's railing
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that has been carbon-dated
to as early as 660 AD.
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However, one of the most
compelling potential clues
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was identified in 2018
by seismic scanning
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that was conducted
across the swamp...
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a mysterious 200-foot-long
ship-shaped anomaly.
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So, Billy, can we get
a swamp excavator?
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The swamp excavator is good,
certainly out in the middle,
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but if we're doing the edges,
a-a long-reach is better.
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What is "long-reach" that
you're thinking? What is that?
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It would be 80-foot long-reach.
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Hmm. That's pretty good.
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- BILLY: Yep.
- MARTY: Um, I say we do it.
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Anybody have any other thoughts?
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I think we should.
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- MARTY: Yeah.
- TOM: There's always information
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in that swamp,
every time we dig in it.
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So, if we get a machine here
that can do it,
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let's-let's get on that
south side and start digging.
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Right.
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Craig, what do you say?
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Yeah, I-I agree. I mean,
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the extended reach
will be perfect.
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Billy, you got
a unanimous decision
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- out of this group.
- (laughter)
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That's pretty exciting.
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- (laughter)
- It is.
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- Yeah.
- All right, well, let's do it.
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Why don't you get that
in motion, Billy,
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and we're gonna, you know, we'll
dig, we'll dig in the swamp.
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RICK: There's a lot to
hope for, but it won't get done
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- unless you start.
- Yep.
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- So, let's get going.
- Okay.
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MARTY:
Okay. Let's dig the swamp.
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- BILLY: Yep.
- RICK: Okey doke.
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NARRATOR: Later that
morning, while the team arranges
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to obtain their new piece
of heavy digging equipment...
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- CHARLES: Core coming in.
- TERRY: All right.
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NARRATOR:
in the Money Pit area,
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geologist Terry Matheson,
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Oak Island historian
Charles Barkhouse
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and members of the team
have begun drilling
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a new six-inch borehole
known as F-2.
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- Hey, guys.
- Hey, Brennan. How you doing?
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- Good. How are you?
- Good.
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- Fresh core?
- CHARLES: Yep.
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- What do we got, Adam?
- ADAM: 53.
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- 49 to 53?
- Yes.
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NARRATOR:
Over the past six weeks,
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Rick, Marty, Craig and the team
have been conducting
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an operation to drill
some 20 new boreholes
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on a strategic grid in an area
known as the C-1 cluster.
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It is here, in the vicinity
of the C-1 shaft,
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that they have not only
recovered pieces of metal,
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as well as water samples
containing traces
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of both silver and gold
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but also, evidence
of wooden tunnels
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nearly 90 feet deep dating back
to as early as the 15th century.
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TERRY: So, Brennan, the
new plan is, we're gonna just
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burn down for the first 49 feet.
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- Okay.
- And that gets the sweet spot
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of 110 to about 120,
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where we hope to intersect
a tunnel in and around 110.
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- So we're gonna take it to 120 to be sure.
- Sure.
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MARTY: We have been
chasing all around the C-1 cluster,
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trying to figure out
what's going on
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and getting some really
interesting results.
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I don't know what to make of
the wood that keeps coming up,
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several of which
have dated to 1480 to 1650.
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And the metal from D-2
had gold in it.
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So that could be
very significant.
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CHARLES:
So, we know
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that right in line of F-2
is D-2,
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and that's where we hit--
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We found those three pieces
of metal.
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- Wow.
- So, it could be,
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it just could be a tunnel
that we may find here.
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- Let's hope.
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If it's there,
Mike will find it.
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That we will.
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RICK:
What we are engaged in
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is trying to understand
what is happening underground.
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It's critically important
to analyze the data
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from the drill program
and see if it affects
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where you put the ten-foot cans.
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I think, right now, we've got a
little bit of connective tissue.
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We've got high gold and silver
water sample tests
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that are saying
that this might be
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a-a premiere location
for a large can.
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What you got, Adam?
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- 86.
- 86.
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It's a heavy one.
Feels like wood.
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TERRY:
Wow.
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That looks like it's all wood.
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CHARLES:
We could be in another shaft.
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NARRATOR:
Part of a shaft?
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Found in the same area,
and at nearly
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the same depth where the team
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recently discovered
both evidence of a tunnel
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and also treasure?
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TERRY: Look, the grain is
perpendicular to the stroke of the drill.
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I would say that's a shaft wall.
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NARRATOR:
If so, who built it?
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A prior group of searchers?
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Or could it have been someone
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who hid something here
long, long ago?
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- Hey, Scott.
- Hey, guys.
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TERRY:
Scott, how are you doing?
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- CHARLES: Hey, Steve.
- STEVE G.: Hey, guys.
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- Hey, Steve.
- How's it looking?
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Well, as you see,
from 82 feet to 89 feet,
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quite a substantial section
of stacked timbers here.
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- Seems to me it's a shaft wall.
- Yeah.
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So, we already know there is
a tunneling system around C-1.
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Or, it's the original Money Pit.
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We keep getting evidence
of tunnels and shafts that
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are totally undocumented
in the C-1 cluster.
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So, we're trying to define
what these shafts are
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and who made these tunnels
and where they're going.
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It might even give us
the puzzle pieces we need
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to figure this whole thing out.
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Let's see if we can repeat it.
Hit it again.
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- Yeah.
- STEVE G.: That's right.
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- So, we'll carry on.
- Right on.
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Once more into the breach.
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TEDFORD:
Watch your fingers!
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NARRATOR:
While the drilling operation
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continues in
the Money Pit area...
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GARY: There should be
some good stuff here.
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RICK:
You would think.
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nearly a mile to the west,
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Rick Lagina and metal detection
expert Gary Drayton
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arrive at Lot 4 to continue
searching for
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a feature that, if found,
could corroborate
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one of the most
incredible theories
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ever presented about
the Oak Island treasure.
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GARY: It's only a matter
of time before we pull up
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some coins out of this area.
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So, where it points at
"The Hole Under the Hatch,"
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as the map depicts it.
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It looks like
it's a wooded area.
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It looks like
it's over on Lot 4.
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Yes, it does.
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NARRATOR:
Two weeks ago,
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mechanical engineer Matt Sandt
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presented the team
with his research
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on a reported 14th-century map
that was first shown
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to Rick, Marty and the team
back in 2016
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by the late author
and historian Zena Halpern.
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It was Zena's belief
that the map
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had been created by members
of the Knights Templar--
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And noted secret locations
around the island--
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Written in French--
That represented key clues
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to finding a vast
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and potentially priceless
treasure.
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One of these sites
was simply labeled as
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"The Hole Under the Hatch."
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Back by the main road on
the western side, just up there
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on Lot 4...
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Yeah, the pink
and then those red dots.
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Do you see that?
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NARRATOR:
Over the past two weeks,
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the team has not only
marked a large,
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buried metallic anomaly
using a magnetometer,
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but also found several
intriguing artifacts,
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including a leather strap
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and a gold-plated button.
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- I'll try over here.
- Okay.
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However, due to the new
island-wide restrictions
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imposed by the Department
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of Community, Culture
and Heritage,
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they will need to recover
more compelling evidence
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before they can obtain a permit
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to conduct a large
excavation in the area.
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(Gary mutters)
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(beeping)
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Well, that sounds good, mate.
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This little baby wants
to be rescued. Just there.
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All right.
Let's recheck the hole.
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It got stronger.
I like the sound of this.
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Let's see if I can pinpoint it.
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(beeping)
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There it is.
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Wow! Look at that.
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Big old iron spike.
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That is heavy as well,
that's an oldie.
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I mean, this is chunky iron,
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just up from
the shoreline like this,
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I have no idea the use of it.
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So, Dr. Brosseau,
XRF, get it cleaned,
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get it conserved,
and see what it says.
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Yeah. And get Carmen Legge
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- to have a gander at it as well.
- Yup.
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RICK:
I have a special place
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for Zena Halpern
and her research,
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but we are still trying
to understand the map.
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All right, mate.
Let's keep gridding.
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RICK:
To prove the significance of it,
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we've got to find and hold
evidence in our hand that
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these things exist,
well and truly exist.
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(beeping)
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Two-way repeatable signal.
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That's a little screamer.
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Just there, mate.
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My lucky digger's on fire!
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(Rick chuckles)
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Hopefully it's still
in the hole, mate.
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- (beeping)
- It is.
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Come on, me little beauty.
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(chuckles)
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Ooh. Look at that.
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That is...
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- That looks like a...
- Like a tool?
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GARY:
Yeah. Is it an old adze?
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- Could be.
- I mean, we find all that
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wood with the bark,
the old timbers.
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That's what it looks
like to me, maybe,
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- an adze?
- Yup.
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NARRATOR:
A possible adze?
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Discovered on Lot 4?
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Dating back to the times
of ancient Egypt,
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an adze is a type of cutting
tool featuring a sharp edge
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that runs perpendicular
to its handle
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and was designed for use
in ship building
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or detailed woodwork
on structures.
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If this tool proves to be
an adze, as Gary believes,
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could it be connected
to some kind of structure
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that was built
long ago in this area?
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RICK:
If some activity on Lot 4
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was done long ago,
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they would need to shape timbers
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in order to do cribbing
of the underground works.
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I-I don't know a whole lot
about an adze, you know,
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but I know it's used
for shaping wood.
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That's interesting.
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I love these interesting finds.
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And we're getting more and more
interesting finds on Lot 4.
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- But that is really cool.
- It's a curious find.
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- Yeah.
- It's a very curious find.
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This and that nice
old piece of iron,
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that spike, whatever it is,
can easily be dated.
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They're both interesting enough
to warrant that,
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- that's for sure.
- Yeah, for sure, mate.
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I think we have ended the day
on a high with this note.
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RICK:
I agree.
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NARRATOR:
The following day...
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(horn honking)
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- Here it is, guys.
- There it is.
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ALEX:
Oh, man. Look at that.
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(laughs)
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Alex Lagina, Oak Island
historian Charles Barkhouse,
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and heavy equipment operator
Billy Gerhardt
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gather near the swamp to receive
a 35-ton long-reach excavator.
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ALEX: Look at that!
That's really something.
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- BILLY: That's a long junk of stuff, yeah.
- (Alex laughs)
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ALEX: You don't appreciate it
until it kind of turns
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- and goes past ya.
- Exactly.
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NARRATOR: With the capability
of reaching up to 80 feet
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out into the swamp,
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and to much deeper depths
than they've been able
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to dig in this area before...
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- ALEX: Oh, yeah.
- it is the team's hope
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to not only find more evidence
that could help
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prove Fred Nolan's
incredible theory
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but also anything of value
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that might lie buried
beneath the muck and mud.
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We have a number of items
that we believe,
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from a layman's perspective,
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can be associated with a ship,
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or the building of ships, even.
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- CHARLES: Hey, guys.
- MARTY: So now
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we're digging
to see what's there.
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And hopefully find
some information
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that puts this whole
puzzle together.
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- Nice machine, Billy.
- Yes, it is, Marty.
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- Hi, guys.
- MARTY: Hey, Charles.
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- You ready?
- CHARLES: Absolutely.
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I was just wondering
where to start.
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You like starting here?
Rick likes starting here?
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- Yeah.
- Let Gary figure out
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where he wants
the material laid down.
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We have to lay eyes
on this, because
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the number of finds
we've made that are wooden...
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There's something in there,
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- I think.
- Right.
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00:17:23,867 --> 00:17:26,044
- Yeah.
- Put it where you want it to go, Billy,
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- and let's take a few shovelfuls.
- Yep.
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00:17:27,963 --> 00:17:29,881
- It's time to dig.
- BILLY: Time to dig.
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Ready to go?
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00:17:40,634 --> 00:17:42,393
GARY: Yep! Ready to rock
and roll, Billy.
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00:17:44,229 --> 00:17:45,888
Here we go, ready for
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- some slop.
- CHARLES: Oh, yeah.
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NARRATOR: While Billy begins
digging with the long-range excavator,
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Marty Lagina uses
a smaller, 13-ton excavator
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to clear water away from
the area as it accumulates.
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Meanwhile,
Gary Drayton will scan
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the spoils for any potential
metal clues... or valuables.
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00:18:07,836 --> 00:18:10,579
I don't know that
there's a quote-un-quote
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treasure chest,
or-or, or something that
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can be retrieved from
the body of the swamp.
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But Mr. Nolan did find
some ship parts there,
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and his beliefs are now
being validated because
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we are finding ship items.
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So, if there is a ship there,
then I want to see the evidence.
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I want to prove
that, indeed, uh...
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at the bottom of the swamp
there is a ship.
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We don't have
that information yet.
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You want to walk in there?
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GARY:
Uh... Yeah. Please.
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That'd be great.
There we go. Thanks.
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- CHARLES: See all this water here?
- ALEX: Yeah.
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CHARLES: The trench is
starting to silt up.
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Look at that.
There she goes.
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- CHALRES: Yeah.
- LAIRD: Hey, guys.
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- Hey, Laird.
- GARY: Hey, mate.
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Requested a shovel.
How are things going?
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Well, it's just
getting going now.
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We're getting to deeper layers.
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- Okay.
- Now we're going
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to try to get the majority
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of that water to get moving.
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00:19:14,311 --> 00:19:16,237
Marty's clearing
the ditch a little bit.
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00:19:16,321 --> 00:19:18,647
- LAIRD: Okay.
- RICK: So, the hope is that
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we can continue
to move that way,
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towards the areas
that we have...
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Yeah, this all falls within
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- the permit that we have.
- Yes.
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00:19:25,655 --> 00:19:27,573
Yes. Nothing there, Gary?
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00:19:27,657 --> 00:19:29,292
No. Nothing.
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00:19:37,259 --> 00:19:39,168
ALEX:
That does not look like a...
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- RICK: Oh.
- ALEX: That's a pretty big log.
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00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:43,181
CHARLES:
Got a big log in here, Billy!
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- RICK: It's huge.
- CHARLES: Yeah.
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NARRATOR: At the southern edge
of the triangle-shaped swamp,
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the Oak Island team
has just made
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a potentially important
discovery.
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- RICK: That's a big stump.
- BILLY: Yeah.
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- RICK: How deep was that?
- Four to six.
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00:20:05,946 --> 00:20:07,538
I think that's the root
at the bottom, right?
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00:20:07,623 --> 00:20:09,540
- Over here?
- I think so. Yeah.
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00:20:15,297 --> 00:20:17,465
RICK:
It's pretty big, whatever it is.
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BILLY:
The color is like oak.
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00:20:22,638 --> 00:20:25,798
- Did you do this, Gary?
- Yeah, I did it. Yeah.
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00:20:25,891 --> 00:20:28,133
No metal hits in that.
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00:20:29,219 --> 00:20:31,804
RICK: Well, it was
four to six feet down.
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00:20:31,888 --> 00:20:34,640
I mean, that says
something about dry--
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It being dry land.
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- Yeah.
- And then, somehow,
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four feet of organics went over
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the top of it
and then it became a wetland.
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00:20:42,574 --> 00:20:43,741
Yeah.
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NARRATOR:
A possible oak tree stump?
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00:20:46,828 --> 00:20:49,247
Found in the southern region
of the swamp?
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Because oak trees
cannot grow naturally
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in water environments,
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could Rick be correct
that this stump offers
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more evidence that the swamp
was artificially made,
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just like the late Fred Nolan
strongly believed?
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RICK: At one time,
that had to be
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- forestland, right?
- Yeah. Yeah.
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00:21:08,925 --> 00:21:11,102
A tree of this size
would not be rooted,
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unless it were dry.
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00:21:12,354 --> 00:21:15,022
It may provide
a certain date as to
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when the swamp became a swamp.
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And it may be able
to tell a story.
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I'd love to see
a 500-year representation
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- of what this may have looked like.
- Mm.
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LAIRD: And that could help
explain some of the other things
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that are happening around here.
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00:21:33,375 --> 00:21:38,296
If that's the root, you cut it,
figure out how old it is, first,
487
00:21:38,455 --> 00:21:40,372
and then draw your
interpretation from there.
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00:21:40,457 --> 00:21:42,466
- Right?
- Yeah. Yeah.
489
00:21:42,551 --> 00:21:45,428
RICK: It'd be nice to know
how old that is.
490
00:21:47,723 --> 00:21:49,724
NARRATOR:
Later that afternoon...
491
00:21:49,808 --> 00:21:51,892
CHARLES: What's the good
word there, Adam?
492
00:21:51,977 --> 00:21:53,719
- 109.
- 109. Chips and chunks.
493
00:21:53,812 --> 00:21:54,887
Just chips and chunks.
494
00:21:54,980 --> 00:21:57,139
while the operations
in the swamp
495
00:21:57,232 --> 00:21:59,400
and the Money Pit area
continue...
496
00:22:00,477 --> 00:22:02,394
RICK: I always
like coming here.
497
00:22:02,479 --> 00:22:03,729
I like talking to this guy.
498
00:22:03,813 --> 00:22:05,072
ALEX: Yeah.
Really interesting.
499
00:22:05,157 --> 00:22:07,742
NARRATOR: some 50 miles
north of Oak Island,
500
00:22:07,901 --> 00:22:10,578
in Centreville, Nova Scotia...
501
00:22:10,737 --> 00:22:13,572
- Hey, Carmen.
- Hey, Carmen!
502
00:22:13,665 --> 00:22:15,991
- ALEX: We're back again.
- Marty Lagina, his son Alex,
503
00:22:16,084 --> 00:22:19,078
and Jack Begley
arrive at Northville Farm.
504
00:22:19,162 --> 00:22:20,746
- Got some goodies?
- ALEX: We do.
505
00:22:20,830 --> 00:22:22,164
- MARTY: We hope so.
- All right.
506
00:22:22,257 --> 00:22:23,665
- Let's have a look at them.
- Yeah.
507
00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:26,677
NARRATOR: They are eager
to have blacksmithing expert
508
00:22:26,836 --> 00:22:29,013
Carmen Legge examine
the believed ancient
509
00:22:29,172 --> 00:22:31,932
adze cutting tool
that Rick and Gary Drayton
510
00:22:32,092 --> 00:22:34,185
recently discovered on Lot 4.
511
00:22:35,771 --> 00:22:37,930
ALEX:
So, this was found on Lot 4,
512
00:22:38,014 --> 00:22:39,774
which is on the north side
of the island.
513
00:22:39,858 --> 00:22:41,192
CARMEN: Okay.
514
00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:02,380
And you just kinda
scrape it along?
515
00:23:05,625 --> 00:23:06,801
Oh, okay.
516
00:23:06,885 --> 00:23:07,843
But it, um...
517
00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:20,564
Yeah.
518
00:23:30,567 --> 00:23:31,742
Um...
519
00:23:41,420 --> 00:23:42,744
- Those are good numbers.
- Yeah.
520
00:23:42,829 --> 00:23:43,912
CARMEN:
It is. Yeah.
521
00:23:43,997 --> 00:23:46,757
NARRATOR: An English-style adze?
522
00:23:46,916 --> 00:23:49,844
Dating back more than
150 years prior to
523
00:23:50,003 --> 00:23:51,670
the discovery of the Money Pit?
524
00:23:51,763 --> 00:23:56,183
If so, what might it have
been used for on Oak Island?
525
00:23:56,268 --> 00:23:59,103
And specifically, on Lot 4?
526
00:24:00,263 --> 00:24:02,598
Are there any houses
or homesteads over there?
527
00:24:02,682 --> 00:24:03,682
There's no-- I don't think
there's ever been
528
00:24:03,775 --> 00:24:05,526
anything constructed on Lot 4.
529
00:24:05,685 --> 00:24:09,947
If you had an expedition
to sink a shaft,
530
00:24:10,106 --> 00:24:12,274
for whatever reason,
you would need timbers.
531
00:24:12,358 --> 00:24:15,369
- Yes.
- And you'd want them to fit together well.
532
00:24:15,454 --> 00:24:17,529
- Yes.
- So, you might need such a tool.
533
00:24:17,614 --> 00:24:19,698
You send your crew over there,
"I need...
534
00:24:19,782 --> 00:24:22,201
I need 400 six-by-sixes."
535
00:24:22,285 --> 00:24:23,878
Whatever.
"And they better fit."
536
00:24:24,037 --> 00:24:25,129
Then you'd need that, right?
537
00:24:25,213 --> 00:24:26,955
- You would use a tool like this.
- MARTY: Yeah.
538
00:24:27,048 --> 00:24:29,208
- For the cribbing?
- MARTY: Exactly.
539
00:24:29,301 --> 00:24:32,386
I'm actually glad that we're
looking closer at Lot 4.
540
00:24:32,545 --> 00:24:34,129
Man, that's a bit of a mystery.
541
00:24:34,214 --> 00:24:35,797
This is an adze.
542
00:24:35,882 --> 00:24:37,633
I mean, he's absolutely sure.
543
00:24:37,717 --> 00:24:40,385
It's old and it's corroded,
but it probably was
544
00:24:40,470 --> 00:24:43,722
made somewhere between
1620 to 1740.
545
00:24:43,815 --> 00:24:47,735
That's good stuff.
That's clearly pre-searcher.
546
00:24:47,894 --> 00:24:50,070
Okay. Well, that's interesting.
547
00:24:50,230 --> 00:24:51,572
It's very old, potentially,
548
00:24:51,656 --> 00:24:52,823
but it's kind of
a mystery, still.
549
00:24:52,908 --> 00:24:53,899
- Very old.
- So that's good.
550
00:24:53,992 --> 00:24:54,909
Bit of a mystery.
551
00:24:54,993 --> 00:24:55,817
You know, out of place
552
00:24:55,911 --> 00:24:57,912
on Oak Island.
What a shock.
553
00:24:58,071 --> 00:24:58,987
All right.
Well, thank you very much.
554
00:24:59,072 --> 00:24:59,914
- All right, Carmen.
- Very good.
555
00:24:59,998 --> 00:25:01,499
- Always a pleasure.
- See you.
556
00:25:01,583 --> 00:25:03,167
We'll see you on
the island, hopefully.
557
00:25:03,251 --> 00:25:04,326
Very good.
Enjoy your trip.
558
00:25:04,410 --> 00:25:05,920
MARTY:
Brilliant!
559
00:25:09,999 --> 00:25:11,333
- ALEX: Hey, guys.
- DOUG: Gentlemen.
560
00:25:11,417 --> 00:25:12,676
NARRATOR:
In the Oak Island war room...
561
00:25:12,835 --> 00:25:15,254
- Welcome back.
- Marty and Alex Lagina,
562
00:25:15,338 --> 00:25:17,932
along with Jack Begley,
gather with Rick
563
00:25:18,091 --> 00:25:21,260
and members of the team to
share Carmen Legge's analysis
564
00:25:21,353 --> 00:25:24,680
of the mysterious adze
that was found on Lot 4.
565
00:25:24,773 --> 00:25:28,192
There it is: a beautiful adze.
566
00:25:28,351 --> 00:25:30,361
- Oh, goodness. - Really?
- ALEX: Mm-hmm.
567
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,445
- RICK: We thought it might be.
- GARY: Yeah.
568
00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:33,197
ALEX:
Yeah, so he confirmed that.
569
00:25:33,356 --> 00:25:35,366
He knew exactly what that was.
He said this
570
00:25:35,450 --> 00:25:37,109
is an adze,
but he said English style.
571
00:25:37,202 --> 00:25:38,536
Excellent.
572
00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:39,870
ALEX:
Because of the square hole,
573
00:25:39,955 --> 00:25:42,623
which you can see,
and as well as
574
00:25:42,707 --> 00:25:44,208
the notch right there.
575
00:25:44,292 --> 00:25:48,796
Also potentially makes it
as old as 1620 to 1740.
576
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,881
- Wow.
- Wow.
577
00:25:50,966 --> 00:25:53,125
- That is fantastic.
- MARTY: Yeah.
578
00:25:53,209 --> 00:25:55,803
The idea is that you could use
579
00:25:55,887 --> 00:25:58,556
an axe to make
a hand-hewn timber.
580
00:25:58,715 --> 00:26:01,225
But if that timber needed
to be smooth,
581
00:26:01,384 --> 00:26:03,218
more like this tabletop,
you'd work this thing.
582
00:26:03,311 --> 00:26:05,229
This would have been very sharp.
583
00:26:05,388 --> 00:26:07,055
It's where you need
a fine finish.
584
00:26:07,140 --> 00:26:09,567
- ALEX: Right.
- Finer than just axe-cut.
585
00:26:09,651 --> 00:26:11,735
JACK: So what's it doing
over on Lot 4?
586
00:26:11,820 --> 00:26:14,396
Unless, possibly,
it has to do with the hatch?
587
00:26:14,489 --> 00:26:15,906
Yeah, that's what
I was going to say.
588
00:26:16,065 --> 00:26:17,491
The only thing I can think
on Lot 4 that
589
00:26:17,576 --> 00:26:20,494
we have any information for
is the hatch from Zena's map.
590
00:26:20,579 --> 00:26:23,831
I mean, Zena's map goes
back to 13, 1400s,
591
00:26:23,915 --> 00:26:25,749
but still,
we're having a lot of finds
592
00:26:25,908 --> 00:26:28,827
on Lot 4, so on the western
side of the island.
593
00:26:28,911 --> 00:26:30,421
What were they doing over here?
594
00:26:30,580 --> 00:26:32,748
Yeah, and I bloody love
that date range.
595
00:26:32,832 --> 00:26:35,342
That is well before
the story of the Money Pit.
596
00:26:35,427 --> 00:26:38,670
RICK: The date
is very interesting:
597
00:26:38,763 --> 00:26:41,089
1620 to 1740.
598
00:26:41,174 --> 00:26:44,268
It seems that we keep
pushing the dates,
599
00:26:44,352 --> 00:26:47,512
uh, of the finds
further and further back.
600
00:26:47,597 --> 00:26:50,524
I find that quite compelling.
601
00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:53,027
If you're making significant
finds on the lot line between
602
00:26:53,111 --> 00:26:56,363
4 and 5, then we should
continue to clear out Lot 4.
603
00:26:56,522 --> 00:27:00,117
I think that the work done
on Oak Island was incremental.
604
00:27:00,201 --> 00:27:02,277
In other words,
there seems to be
605
00:27:02,362 --> 00:27:05,614
a master plan
and it was implemented
606
00:27:05,698 --> 00:27:08,208
over a period of years,
if not decades.
607
00:27:08,293 --> 00:27:11,119
MARTY: Okay.
Well, that's our story.
608
00:27:11,204 --> 00:27:15,215
Uh, could be very significant
'cause it's quite old.
609
00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:19,044
It could be even older after
you find out about this, Rick.
610
00:27:19,128 --> 00:27:21,380
And then, then we're just left
with the problem of, well,
611
00:27:21,473 --> 00:27:24,475
- how long was it used before it was discarded?
- Yeah.
612
00:27:24,634 --> 00:27:26,477
RICK:
As far as Lot 4 is concerned,
613
00:27:26,561 --> 00:27:28,062
these are not just
one-off things.
614
00:27:28,146 --> 00:27:31,723
Everything we talk about here
in the war room should lead us
615
00:27:31,808 --> 00:27:33,809
to advancing the search agenda
and that's...
616
00:27:33,893 --> 00:27:35,319
And I think we've done that.
617
00:27:35,478 --> 00:27:36,737
This proves there's
more things to find,
618
00:27:36,896 --> 00:27:38,230
but we won't find them in here.
619
00:27:38,314 --> 00:27:40,491
Let's go.
620
00:27:44,579 --> 00:27:46,988
NARRATOR:
The following morning...
621
00:27:47,073 --> 00:27:49,500
CHARLES: Water and soil is
not a good mixture.
622
00:27:49,584 --> 00:27:51,669
ALEX:
No.
623
00:27:51,753 --> 00:27:53,087
- It's like Jell-O.
- CHARLES: Yeah.
624
00:27:53,246 --> 00:27:54,413
The world's worst Jell-O.
625
00:27:54,506 --> 00:27:56,340
Yeah. Exactly.
626
00:27:57,509 --> 00:27:59,093
I don't think
I like this flavor.
627
00:27:59,252 --> 00:28:00,919
- (both laugh)
- At all.
628
00:28:02,430 --> 00:28:05,015
NARRATOR: Rick, Marty and
members of the team go back to work,
629
00:28:05,174 --> 00:28:07,175
searching for more
important clues--
630
00:28:07,260 --> 00:28:09,344
And hopefully valuables--
631
00:28:09,429 --> 00:28:11,814
In the southernmost
region of the swamp.
632
00:28:13,850 --> 00:28:16,935
You know what?
That excavator looks really big
633
00:28:17,019 --> 00:28:19,363
until you start doing this
and look at that swamp
634
00:28:19,522 --> 00:28:21,699
and it doesn't look
so big anymore, does it?
635
00:28:21,858 --> 00:28:22,700
No.
636
00:28:26,529 --> 00:28:28,706
It just goes to show yet again,
if you wanted
637
00:28:28,865 --> 00:28:31,208
to hide something,
boy, was this ever a good way.
638
00:28:31,292 --> 00:28:32,668
(Laird chuckles)
639
00:28:34,871 --> 00:28:36,839
RICK: Heads up.
Swinging, swinging around.
640
00:28:50,136 --> 00:28:52,554
- Does that look flat?
- RICK: I guess it does.
641
00:28:52,647 --> 00:28:54,055
GARY:
Yeah, it does, doesn't it?
642
00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:55,807
Are those little chopping marks,
643
00:28:55,892 --> 00:28:56,984
from something
like a little adze
644
00:28:57,143 --> 00:28:58,393
or something like that?
645
00:28:58,486 --> 00:29:00,738
Or is that-- Do you think
that's just natural split?
646
00:29:00,822 --> 00:29:01,813
I don't know,
but we'll wash it...
647
00:29:01,898 --> 00:29:02,898
GARY:
It's awfully straight, isn't it?
648
00:29:02,982 --> 00:29:04,825
wash it off.
649
00:29:04,909 --> 00:29:06,326
NARRATOR:
A piece of wood?
650
00:29:06,486 --> 00:29:09,154
Possibly cut by an adze?
651
00:29:09,238 --> 00:29:12,240
If so, could it be connected
to the adze
652
00:29:12,325 --> 00:29:15,243
that was unearthed
two days ago on Lot 4?
653
00:29:15,336 --> 00:29:17,412
You're right, Gary.
Right there.
654
00:29:17,497 --> 00:29:20,841
Or is it from
a much earlier time period?
655
00:29:20,925 --> 00:29:22,926
RICK:
Hey, Laird!
656
00:29:23,011 --> 00:29:24,503
- Come here a minute?
- LAIRD: Yeah.
657
00:29:24,587 --> 00:29:26,755
RICK:
It appears that there are
658
00:29:26,848 --> 00:29:29,341
some hand cuts on the wood.
659
00:29:29,425 --> 00:29:33,011
In terms of the importance
of an adze-cut piece of wood,
660
00:29:33,095 --> 00:29:36,106
timbers of long ago
were shaped by an adze.
661
00:29:36,191 --> 00:29:38,859
We also know that it was used
in shipbuilding.
662
00:29:38,943 --> 00:29:42,103
It looks like a chop mark
from something like an adze.
663
00:29:42,197 --> 00:29:43,855
RICK:
I think it's very early.
664
00:29:43,940 --> 00:29:46,274
I think there's a lot
more work to be done.
665
00:29:46,359 --> 00:29:49,444
But, in the moment,
it's surprising.
666
00:29:49,529 --> 00:29:52,197
It's, it's, uh...
exciting.
667
00:29:52,281 --> 00:29:54,708
Um...
668
00:29:54,793 --> 00:29:56,418
I-It's remarkable.
669
00:29:57,870 --> 00:29:59,463
Kind of looks hewn, doesn't it?
670
00:29:59,547 --> 00:30:01,632
I don't know.
And then you have that.
671
00:30:01,716 --> 00:30:02,958
LAIRD:
See this, here?
672
00:30:03,042 --> 00:30:05,469
It's kind of a possible cut.
673
00:30:05,628 --> 00:30:07,971
That, I think is--
Could be of interest.
674
00:30:08,056 --> 00:30:09,381
We're not too far away
from where
675
00:30:09,465 --> 00:30:10,891
we found that piece of wood.
676
00:30:11,050 --> 00:30:13,060
I mean, that dated back to 700.
677
00:30:13,144 --> 00:30:16,396
- RICK: Let me throw some water on this.
- LAIRD: Okay.
678
00:30:16,556 --> 00:30:18,890
RICK: I think everything
that we pull from the swamp
679
00:30:18,975 --> 00:30:20,567
needs to be looked at carefully.
680
00:30:20,652 --> 00:30:22,310
The most innocuous piece of wood
681
00:30:22,395 --> 00:30:25,113
might have some
very relevant information.
682
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,568
Whatcha got, big brother?
683
00:30:29,652 --> 00:30:32,404
I don't know if it's anything.
684
00:30:32,488 --> 00:30:33,330
Right there.
685
00:30:34,740 --> 00:30:36,625
- Okay.
- Right there.
686
00:30:37,994 --> 00:30:39,411
MARTY: Pretty rotten.
Look at this, though.
687
00:30:39,495 --> 00:30:41,997
- Right here.
- Yeah, I don't know.
688
00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:44,249
MARTY:
It passes the first test.
689
00:30:44,333 --> 00:30:45,509
It's shaped wood.
690
00:30:45,593 --> 00:30:48,762
So, if somebody analyzes it,
some expert...
691
00:30:48,847 --> 00:30:51,673
if something comes through
that it's very ancient,
692
00:30:51,757 --> 00:30:53,675
then they become significant.
But...
693
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:56,353
But they are already
somewhat significant
694
00:30:56,437 --> 00:30:58,856
because we're only digging
in a small area of the swamp.
695
00:30:59,015 --> 00:31:02,442
And why, really, at depth
are shaped pieces
696
00:31:02,527 --> 00:31:04,194
of wood in there at all?
697
00:31:07,532 --> 00:31:10,200
Is that another piece?
698
00:31:12,704 --> 00:31:15,864
Yeah, I'm gonna put a board
and go fish that out.
699
00:31:15,948 --> 00:31:17,782
- Hang on, Billy.
- LAIRD: I'll do it.
700
00:31:17,876 --> 00:31:18,700
GARY:
All right, mate.
701
00:31:18,793 --> 00:31:21,128
I can't let that go.
Not now.
702
00:31:21,287 --> 00:31:22,713
All right, mate.
Thanks.
703
00:31:26,050 --> 00:31:27,718
- I'm going to push you forward a bit.
- All right, mate.
704
00:31:29,128 --> 00:31:30,629
(chuckles)
705
00:31:30,713 --> 00:31:33,223
CHARLES:
Oh, Gary's going in.
706
00:31:33,308 --> 00:31:35,050
He's going in.
707
00:31:35,134 --> 00:31:36,560
GARY:
I thought it looked...
708
00:31:36,719 --> 00:31:38,896
It is. Look!
709
00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:43,859
This is the same log!
710
00:31:50,658 --> 00:31:52,150
It's another flat piece...
711
00:31:52,243 --> 00:31:54,494
- Yeah.
- and it's got that same notch in.
712
00:31:54,579 --> 00:31:56,580
NARRATOR: Near the southernmost
region of the swamp...
713
00:31:56,664 --> 00:31:58,916
- Thanks, mate.
- Got it.
714
00:31:59,075 --> 00:32:01,159
the Oak Island team
has just made
715
00:32:01,243 --> 00:32:03,921
another potentially important
discovery.
716
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,674
Look at that. And then
it goes down at a slope.
717
00:32:07,833 --> 00:32:08,833
Oh, that looks like a cut.
718
00:32:08,918 --> 00:32:10,344
- It does, doesn't it?
- Yeah.
719
00:32:10,428 --> 00:32:11,929
GARY: That's the piece I saw.
720
00:32:14,515 --> 00:32:15,840
- LAIRD: Yeah.
- MARTY: What do you got?
721
00:32:15,925 --> 00:32:17,851
Interesting piece of wood, mate.
722
00:32:18,010 --> 00:32:19,519
Just like this other piece
723
00:32:19,604 --> 00:32:20,762
of wood that we found,
724
00:32:20,846 --> 00:32:22,856
it's got like two indents here.
725
00:32:22,941 --> 00:32:25,016
Well, I have a man
down on the beach,
726
00:32:25,109 --> 00:32:26,935
- so I'll get it washed.
- Okay, mate. - All right.
727
00:32:27,019 --> 00:32:29,521
Very similar to that other one.
728
00:32:29,614 --> 00:32:32,783
MARTY: Billy and Gary find
a few pieces of wood.
729
00:32:32,942 --> 00:32:34,785
They clearly appear
to be man-made.
730
00:32:34,944 --> 00:32:37,195
Here you go,
have a go at that one.
731
00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:38,697
It's heavy.
732
00:32:38,781 --> 00:32:40,791
I can't tell what they are,
they just look like planks,
733
00:32:40,875 --> 00:32:44,461
but maybe when
we clean them up, maybe they'll
734
00:32:44,545 --> 00:32:47,297
reveal what they might
have been used for.
735
00:32:47,382 --> 00:32:50,884
Is that one
a little more interesting?
736
00:32:50,969 --> 00:32:53,303
A little bit more suspicious.
737
00:32:57,216 --> 00:32:58,967
All I'm thinking is,
738
00:32:59,060 --> 00:33:01,302
is it a candidate
for C-14 or not?
739
00:33:01,387 --> 00:33:03,313
MARTY: Right. In other words,
is it man-made?
740
00:33:03,472 --> 00:33:05,148
- RICK: I think this is...
- It's angled.
741
00:33:05,233 --> 00:33:08,143
RICK:
Yeah, it's like, chopped, right?
742
00:33:08,227 --> 00:33:10,070
- Yeah, to what end, though?
- I don't know. (scoffs)
743
00:33:10,154 --> 00:33:14,816
Yeah, that swamp
is really, really weird.
744
00:33:14,909 --> 00:33:16,743
Would you expect something else?
745
00:33:16,828 --> 00:33:19,663
- What's the definition of madness?
- (both chuckle)
746
00:33:19,822 --> 00:33:22,332
- We're not there yet.
- We're close.
747
00:33:22,491 --> 00:33:26,503
RICK: Every time we dig anywhere
on Oak Island, we find something.
748
00:33:26,587 --> 00:33:29,506
Uh, and that is certainly true
in the swamp proper.
749
00:33:31,751 --> 00:33:33,835
- These are the finds?
- MARTY: Yeah.
750
00:33:33,919 --> 00:33:37,347
RICK: Retrieve everything,
look at it carefully,
751
00:33:37,432 --> 00:33:40,684
document it, and then try
to reconstruct something.
752
00:33:40,843 --> 00:33:42,594
There might be two pieces
of wood retrieved
753
00:33:42,687 --> 00:33:45,772
at different times that have
some sort of connection.
754
00:33:45,857 --> 00:33:47,983
It does feel like
there's a cut there.
755
00:33:52,697 --> 00:33:54,197
Thick and worn.
756
00:33:54,356 --> 00:33:56,274
Rounded.
757
00:33:56,367 --> 00:33:58,610
RICK: And we're close
by where Terry Deveau
758
00:33:58,694 --> 00:34:00,111
projected the wharf.
759
00:34:00,196 --> 00:34:01,121
Are we?
760
00:34:01,205 --> 00:34:02,781
Yeah.
761
00:34:02,865 --> 00:34:04,616
NARRATOR:
Could Billy Gerhardt's notion
762
00:34:04,700 --> 00:34:07,619
that these pieces
of hand-hewn boards
763
00:34:07,703 --> 00:34:11,956
are actually connected to the
nearby stone wharf be correct?
764
00:34:12,041 --> 00:34:14,885
BILLY: If it's an open harbor,
it's deeper on this side, right?
765
00:34:14,969 --> 00:34:16,461
And it gets shallower
up in the-- b-by the eye, right?
766
00:34:16,554 --> 00:34:18,963
Yeah, and the most interesting
stuff would be on the bottom,
767
00:34:19,048 --> 00:34:20,390
- right here, then.
- Yeah.
768
00:34:20,475 --> 00:34:22,392
- Which, you're not there yet.
- No.
769
00:34:22,551 --> 00:34:24,144
MARTY: If something
is hiding out there,
770
00:34:24,303 --> 00:34:26,063
it's got a lot of places
to hide.
771
00:34:26,147 --> 00:34:27,814
BILLY:
Lots of places.
772
00:34:27,899 --> 00:34:28,982
GARY:
All right, Billy, how about
773
00:34:29,141 --> 00:34:30,391
some treasure tomorrow?
774
00:34:30,485 --> 00:34:32,152
I'm with you, Gary, on that.
775
00:34:32,236 --> 00:34:34,229
GARY:
God, I love this place.
776
00:34:34,322 --> 00:34:37,324
NARRATOR:
Later that afternoon...
777
00:34:37,408 --> 00:34:40,410
MARTY: Dr. Brosseau,
welcome back to the war room.
778
00:34:40,495 --> 00:34:41,995
Appreciate you
being willing to travel.
779
00:34:42,154 --> 00:34:43,905
It really helps us a lot.
780
00:34:43,989 --> 00:34:46,491
NARRATOR: Rick, Marty
and Craig have invited
781
00:34:46,584 --> 00:34:49,244
Professor of Chemistry
Dr. Christa Brosseau
782
00:34:49,328 --> 00:34:52,330
to meet with members of the team
in the war room
783
00:34:52,414 --> 00:34:54,341
to present her analysis
of several items
784
00:34:54,425 --> 00:34:57,502
discovered one week ago
on Lot 4.
785
00:34:57,595 --> 00:35:01,681
These items include
a mysterious metal object
786
00:35:01,766 --> 00:35:03,183
as well as a button
787
00:35:03,342 --> 00:35:06,261
which preliminary X-ray
fluorescence scanning revealed
788
00:35:06,345 --> 00:35:09,606
to contain
a significant amount of gold.
789
00:35:09,765 --> 00:35:12,275
CHRISTA:
So, I'll start with the button.
790
00:35:12,434 --> 00:35:15,529
So, this is sort of
a classic tombac button.
791
00:35:15,688 --> 00:35:16,863
What does that word mean?
792
00:35:16,948 --> 00:35:18,198
Yeah, "tombac" is, uh,
793
00:35:18,282 --> 00:35:20,525
one of, sort of, a common term
794
00:35:20,609 --> 00:35:23,870
- given to a high zinc-copper alloy.
- Oh, okay.
795
00:35:24,029 --> 00:35:28,208
CHRISTA: This is the breakdown
of the main body of the button.
796
00:35:28,292 --> 00:35:32,453
It's, uh, copper-tin with
a fairly high zinc content.
797
00:35:32,547 --> 00:35:34,539
Arsenic and lead
are also present.
798
00:35:34,623 --> 00:35:37,125
Likely they were original
to the copper itself,
799
00:35:37,209 --> 00:35:40,545
predating the modern refinement
of copper alloys.
800
00:35:40,629 --> 00:35:45,216
The copper loop
has a very high bismuth content,
801
00:35:45,309 --> 00:35:49,563
which is indicative that the
copper originated in Britain.
802
00:35:49,722 --> 00:35:53,984
And so, this is most likely
a-a British-origin button.
803
00:35:54,143 --> 00:36:00,481
You will see the circles
around the-the eye.
804
00:36:00,566 --> 00:36:03,326
And that's a very characteristic
feature for buttons
805
00:36:03,485 --> 00:36:07,080
that were made
between 1726 and 1776.
806
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,915
NARRATOR:
A British button,
807
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,918
potentially dating back
70 years prior
808
00:36:12,003 --> 00:36:14,838
to the discovery
of the Money Pit?
809
00:36:14,997 --> 00:36:17,340
Since the team
has found a number
810
00:36:17,425 --> 00:36:20,251
of British military artifacts
from the same period
811
00:36:20,344 --> 00:36:23,597
across the island
over the past several years,
812
00:36:23,756 --> 00:36:26,674
could that answer the question
of who may have buried something
813
00:36:26,759 --> 00:36:29,436
of great value on Oak Island?
814
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,431
Or could it mean that
the British were here searching
815
00:36:33,515 --> 00:36:37,194
for something left much earlier
by someone else?
816
00:36:37,353 --> 00:36:41,156
So, the next object
is the piece of metal.
817
00:36:42,533 --> 00:36:45,276
It is definitely a copper alloy.
818
00:36:45,361 --> 00:36:47,612
It has a pretty high
tin content,
819
00:36:47,696 --> 00:36:50,123
so it's kind of consistent
with what's called
820
00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:52,617
a tin bronze or a bell metal.
821
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:54,211
Specialty metal.
822
00:36:54,295 --> 00:36:56,713
- Yeah.
- When was this alloy identified?
823
00:36:56,872 --> 00:36:58,623
In other words,
when did it come into use?
824
00:36:58,707 --> 00:37:00,550
I would say it's older, yeah.
825
00:37:00,635 --> 00:37:02,877
Because the copper
contains arsenic,
826
00:37:02,962 --> 00:37:06,881
and usually that's been removed
by more modern refining methods.
827
00:37:06,966 --> 00:37:09,392
Would the presence
of arsenic in both
828
00:37:09,477 --> 00:37:11,719
suggest that the bell metal
would come from the same suspect
829
00:37:11,812 --> 00:37:14,481
- as the button?
- No, I don't think so.
830
00:37:14,565 --> 00:37:16,641
RICK:
When you go back to the screen,
831
00:37:16,725 --> 00:37:18,643
you'll see, at the-the last
sentence there,
832
00:37:18,727 --> 00:37:21,479
it says, "Bell metal was used
to construct early cannons
833
00:37:21,563 --> 00:37:23,823
by the Spanish and Portuguese."
834
00:37:23,908 --> 00:37:25,075
Yeah.
835
00:37:31,323 --> 00:37:32,490
NARRATOR:
In the Oak Island war room
836
00:37:32,583 --> 00:37:34,409
chemist Dr. Christa Brosseau
has just shared
837
00:37:34,493 --> 00:37:38,421
an incredible report
that the metal object found
838
00:37:38,580 --> 00:37:40,924
one week ago on Lot 4
by Gary Drayton
839
00:37:41,008 --> 00:37:44,669
may be of either Spanish
or Portuguese origin.
840
00:37:44,762 --> 00:37:49,432
So, the tin gives the-the metal
strength and rigidity.
841
00:37:49,517 --> 00:37:54,771
So, it's been used historically
for bells, obviously,
842
00:37:54,930 --> 00:37:56,773
but also for the production
of cannons.
843
00:37:58,767 --> 00:38:00,768
MARTY: Would you find it likely
to find this
844
00:38:00,861 --> 00:38:04,030
on other places
in the Maritimes?
845
00:38:04,189 --> 00:38:05,949
That's a good question.
846
00:38:06,033 --> 00:38:08,702
Um, I'd have to do
some more digging into that,
847
00:38:08,861 --> 00:38:11,029
but, um, it's possible.
848
00:38:11,122 --> 00:38:14,365
- We can do some research on that.
- Yeah, for sure.
849
00:38:14,458 --> 00:38:15,533
What is Lot 4?
850
00:38:15,626 --> 00:38:17,210
- What's your interest there?
- Uh, it's...
851
00:38:17,295 --> 00:38:19,129
RICK:
There was this map,
852
00:38:19,288 --> 00:38:22,373
which we, in truth,
are still trying to vet.
853
00:38:22,466 --> 00:38:24,884
You know, as part
of Zena Halpern's research,
854
00:38:24,969 --> 00:38:27,637
there is a reference
to "the hatch."
855
00:38:27,796 --> 00:38:30,882
And, uh, so, we continue
to search for that.
856
00:38:30,966 --> 00:38:33,301
We were chasing, uh, the hatch,
857
00:38:33,385 --> 00:38:35,812
and we were using
the magnetometer hits from CSR,
858
00:38:35,971 --> 00:38:37,397
and that was the first piece
we pulled up
859
00:38:37,481 --> 00:38:39,482
in one of the anomalies.
860
00:38:39,567 --> 00:38:41,651
Actually, I'm-I'm very intrigued
by the possibility
861
00:38:41,810 --> 00:38:43,478
that piece of bell metal
might be associated
862
00:38:43,562 --> 00:38:46,230
- with Portuguese on the island.
- Mm-hmm.
863
00:38:46,315 --> 00:38:51,411
They were among the first
to use cannon on board ships.
864
00:38:51,570 --> 00:38:55,239
NARRATOR: It is well-documented
that Portuguese explorers
865
00:38:55,324 --> 00:38:57,325
frequently visited Nova Scotia
866
00:38:57,409 --> 00:39:00,170
between the 16th and 18th
centuries.
867
00:39:00,329 --> 00:39:03,506
However, some Oak Island
theorists believe
868
00:39:03,591 --> 00:39:06,593
that members of a Portuguese
branch of the Knights Templar,
869
00:39:06,752 --> 00:39:09,587
known as the Knights of Christ,
may have come to the region
870
00:39:09,671 --> 00:39:15,009
much earlier to hide a vast
and priceless treasure.
871
00:39:15,094 --> 00:39:17,520
GARY:
Ooh, look at that.
872
00:39:17,605 --> 00:39:20,273
NARRATOR: Five weeks
ago, while searching on Lot 16,
873
00:39:20,432 --> 00:39:22,016
Rick and Gary Drayton
874
00:39:22,101 --> 00:39:24,778
discovered a small,
ancient stone cannonball
875
00:39:24,937 --> 00:39:26,529
known as a "gunstone."
876
00:39:28,524 --> 00:39:30,691
- MICHAEL J.: Steve, look at this.
- Yes?
877
00:39:30,776 --> 00:39:33,036
NARRATOR: It was a near match
to one found last year in the spoils
878
00:39:33,195 --> 00:39:38,032
excavated in 2019
from the Money Pit area.
879
00:39:38,125 --> 00:39:40,460
Amazingly,
both of these gunstones
880
00:39:40,544 --> 00:39:43,963
were found to potentially be
of Portuguese origin.
881
00:39:44,123 --> 00:39:45,873
Could those gunstones,
882
00:39:45,958 --> 00:39:48,802
along with this fragment
from a possible cannon,
883
00:39:48,886 --> 00:39:51,629
as well as the stone wharf
in the swamp
884
00:39:51,713 --> 00:39:56,810
all be corroborative evidence
that this theory is true?
885
00:39:56,894 --> 00:39:58,895
And this is why Dr. Brousseau
886
00:39:59,054 --> 00:40:01,564
is such a, you know,
such a great resource.
887
00:40:01,649 --> 00:40:04,567
This metal was used by
the Spanish and the Portuguese
888
00:40:04,652 --> 00:40:06,060
for quite some time.
889
00:40:06,153 --> 00:40:09,397
It's an interesting thing
to think that such a metal
890
00:40:09,481 --> 00:40:13,067
used in bells and cannons
would be on Lot 4.
891
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,995
- Another mystery.
- Another mystery.
892
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,414
- RICK: Yeah.
- DOUG: Gary's work with the metal detector
893
00:40:17,498 --> 00:40:19,323
just seems to indicate
894
00:40:19,417 --> 00:40:22,585
there's-- was a lot of activity
in that general area.
895
00:40:22,744 --> 00:40:24,421
The finds say that
there was activity
896
00:40:24,580 --> 00:40:27,090
over a seemingly
long period of time.
897
00:40:27,174 --> 00:40:28,425
TOM:
Something...
898
00:40:28,509 --> 00:40:30,260
happened in that area.
899
00:40:30,344 --> 00:40:33,012
Something about this island
a-attracted a lot
900
00:40:33,172 --> 00:40:35,348
- of effort.
- Mm-hmm.
901
00:40:35,433 --> 00:40:37,675
We got to go down that road
and see where that might lead.
902
00:40:37,759 --> 00:40:39,936
Okay. Well, again,
thank you for coming down.
903
00:40:40,095 --> 00:40:42,013
I always enjoy
these-these sessions very much.
904
00:40:42,097 --> 00:40:43,690
My pleasure. Good luck.
905
00:40:43,849 --> 00:40:46,017
RICK:
Thank you.
906
00:40:46,101 --> 00:40:48,695
NARRATOR:
After another successful week
907
00:40:48,854 --> 00:40:53,032
that resulted in new discoveries
made all across Oak Island,
908
00:40:53,192 --> 00:40:56,536
the Laginas and their team
may be closer than ever
909
00:40:56,695 --> 00:40:59,030
to finally revealing the secrets
910
00:40:59,123 --> 00:41:02,033
that have endured
for more than two centuries.
911
00:41:02,126 --> 00:41:06,370
But as they continue
to narrow down the possibilities
912
00:41:06,455 --> 00:41:08,965
of who may have been
behind this mystery,
913
00:41:09,049 --> 00:41:13,461
are they also zeroing in
on a vast cache of treasure?
914
00:41:13,545 --> 00:41:17,223
Or will they find
that the deeper they dig,
915
00:41:17,382 --> 00:41:20,810
the darker the secrets become?
916
00:41:24,473 --> 00:41:27,150
Next time on
The Curse of Oak Island...
917
00:41:27,309 --> 00:41:28,893
Oh.
918
00:41:28,977 --> 00:41:30,728
Could be more pieces of a ship.
919
00:41:30,812 --> 00:41:32,563
MARTY: Holy smokes. What
do you think of that, Rick?
920
00:41:32,648 --> 00:41:34,324
The swamp is yielding things.
921
00:41:34,483 --> 00:41:36,409
- (beeping)
- Wow, it sounds fantastic.
922
00:41:36,494 --> 00:41:37,652
What the bloody hell is this?
923
00:41:37,736 --> 00:41:39,487
CARMEN:
It's a typical strap
924
00:41:39,571 --> 00:41:40,655
- for a heavy chest.
- Really?
925
00:41:40,748 --> 00:41:42,490
- That's a nice surprise.
- (laughs)
926
00:41:42,574 --> 00:41:44,000
RICK:
I have always thought the way
927
00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:46,753
to figure out the Money Pit
was finding Shaft 6.
928
00:41:46,837 --> 00:41:48,746
TERRY:
Okay! Look at that.
929
00:41:48,839 --> 00:41:50,915
If it's Shaft 6, how far
are we from the Money Pit?
930
00:41:50,999 --> 00:41:52,675
18 feet.
931
00:41:52,834 --> 00:41:54,511
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