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Narrator: Tonight on
the curse of oak island...
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This is typical
of something to do with
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-ships or parts of ships.
-David f.: Wow.
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Alex:
There's a couple of wharfs
on samuel ball's property.
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Yes, alex.
Right here is the second one.
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We were 75 to 100 feet
from shore.
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-Yeah.
-So, that's a huge wharf.
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-Yeah.
-Rick: Why do you need
such a massive wharf?
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-Alex: Take a look at this.
We found a coin.
-Gary: Look at that!
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-Alex: I think that's gold.
-It's stunning.
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Narrator:
There is an island
in the north atlantic
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where people have been looking
for an incredible treasure
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for more than 200 years.
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So far, they have found
a stone slab
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with strange symbols
carved into it,
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mysterious fragments
of human bone,
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and a lead cross
whose origin may stretch back
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to the days
of the knights templar.
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To date, six men have died
trying to solve the mystery.
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And, according to legend,
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one more will have to die
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before the treasure
can be found.
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-aaron: Hey, rick.
-Rick: Hey.
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-I see you started.
-Aaron: Yeah.
We're getting through it.
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-Rick: Okay.
-Aaron: We're finding stuff
right away, so...
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-Rick: Oh, really?
-If you want to
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-get in there
and keep pulling that back...
-Right here?
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-Right there?
-Aaron: Yeah, that little
island there.
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-Rick: Yep. Yep.
-And we'll dump the buckets
right on top of here.
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-Fair enough.
-All right.
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Narrator: As a new day
begins on oak island,
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brothers rick and marty lagina,
along with their team,
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remain focused
on their historic investigation
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in and around
the triangle-shaped swamp,
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looking for more critical clues
that could help solve
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a 226-year-old treasure mystery.
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Aaron:
So, moving upslope...
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I think our best hope
is to follow the artifacts
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and stuff like coal,
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which we've found
along the road,
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-is a really good
artifact to find.
-Sure.
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You know, ceramics,
they help us date the road.
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But anything that might be
associated with a cart,
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with oxen, and coal,
I think are the big ones.
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Okay.
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Narrator:
Over the course
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of their discovery work
this year,
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which was delayed by two months
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because of
the covid-19 pandemic,
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the team has found
not only compelling evidence
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that the swamp was once
an open harbor or throughway
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between two islands
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but also numerous discoveries
suggesting a deliberately
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hidden operation to bring
heavy cargo of some kind here.
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These finds include
a massive stone ship's wharf,
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pieces of 15th-century
cargo barrels...
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...And also
a cobblestone pathway,
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one that runs northward
along the eastern border
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of the swamp,
which branches off somewhere
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into the uplands of the island.
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Now, with winter
fast approaching,
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rick, marty and the team
are tirelessly continuing
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to track the pathway to its end,
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possibly to the location
of the original money pit.
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That looks like...
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Pottery. I think so.
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Looking at it, it looked
like it had lines on it.
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Aaron:
That's, uh, annular ware.
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And the annular ware we know
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comes in early 1750s.
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So, we're still pre-searcher.
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Pre-searcher? Absolutely.
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Marty: The pottery adds
to the mountains of data
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that this road is very old
and can't be younger
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than probably the turn
of the 1700s to 1800s.
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Can't be any younger than that.
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There's a piece right there.
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If you want to see it in situ.
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Aaron:
Oh, yeah.
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Just going to give it
a good wash.
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-Hang on. Here's another one.
-Aaron: Oh.
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-Similar level, too.
-Rick: Yep.
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Same thing.
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Aaron:
This is a stoneware, too.
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You can see,
even before cleaning it,
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it's been badly burned.
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Narrator:
Badly burned pottery?
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Gary:
Oh, what the heck is that?
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Narrator: Just one week ago,
metal detection expert
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gary drayton, along with
rick and marty's nephew,
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david fornetti, discovered
a badly burned iron rod.
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An iron rod
that dr. Aaron taylor believes
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may have been part
of a large sailing vessel.
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Could this burned pottery be
connected to that discovery?
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And, if so, is it another clue
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that the team is getting closer
to discovering whatever caused
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the need
for a carefully hidden pathway?
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Or, for that matter,
an artificial swamp?
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Aaron:
They're both stoneware.
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And if it's in the same area
as the annular wares,
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then this can go back into 17...
Mid-1700s as well.
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So, that's a nice find.
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-Same pattern. Same...
-Aaron: Yeah. Look at that.
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-Fits like a glove.
-Fits like a glove.
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Aaron:
Yeah. Perfect.
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-Well, that's nice to find that.
-Rick: Yes.
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Narrator:
Although the clues
that the team keep finding
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are revealing more evidence
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of where the stone pathway
is heading,
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just how far
will they have to keep going
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to find whatever might
lie buried at the end of it?
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It's just
one more inch that way.
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-It's always one more inch.
-Is that what you tell yourself?
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-Yeah.
-All right.
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Let's see if you're right.
One more inch.
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Narrator:
While rick, aaron and miriam
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continue investigating
the stone pathway...
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-Charles: Hey, carmen.
-Carmen: Well, lookee here.
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Narrator: ...Oak island
historian charles barkhouse,
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david fornetti and
treasure hunter dan henskee
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have arrived at northville farms
in centreville, nova scotia
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to have blacksmithing expert
carmen legge
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inspect the burned iron rod
found one week ago in the swamp.
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Well, what do you
got today, uh, charles?
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Well, I'm hoping
you can tell us.
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Oh, well, you've got a big bar.
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Yeah.
We've got a big bar is right.
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David f.:
It's a really interesting piece.
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We have a bunch
of different ideas
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of what it could be, but
obviously, you're the expert,
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so we wanted
to get your take on it.
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Well, let me just, uh, say
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what I see,
and then you can probably
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-help out what it was for.
-David f.: Yeah.
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-Yeah.
-Carmen: It's about
an inch in diameter.
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Uh, very consistent size
all the way down through.
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This obviously
had a broken piece on to it.
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So, it was an eye.
So, this would be an eyebolt.
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So, carmen, do you have a date
or a time frame for this piece?
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It could be as far back
as the late 1600s.
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Wow.
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Narrator: A burned eyebolt
found in the swamp?
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Dating back
as far as the 17th century?
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-Rick: Wow.
-Gary: Oh, wow, indeed.
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Narrator:
Could it be connected
to the large iron ringbolts
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the team has also
found this year in the swamp,
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which date back
to the same time period?
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And which the team also
believes might have been used
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to haul cargo
from a ship onto oak island?
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So, you mentioned
that it was an eyebolt.
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I know on the island,
we look a lot for ringbolts.
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Can you help me understand
the difference between the two?
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The eyebolt would have the end
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of this tang would come around
and butt onto this, right?
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So, there was a solid, uh,
piece attached to this.
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A ringbolt-- the ring is-is
loose, but it's inserted
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through the bolt.
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This is just, like, one piece,
whereas a ringbolt is two piece.
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-Mm-hmm.
-Carmen: Usually two piece.
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A ringbolt
is usually heavier, too.
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This is very typical
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with anchoring ships
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-You know, ships are obviously
of interest on oak island, so...
-Absolutely.
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Well, certainly appreciate you
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shedding some light
on what went on here.
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I know our team
back on the island
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is going to be thrilled
to hear about, uh,
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everything that we've learned,
so we should probably pack
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this up and hit the road.
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Carmen:
Very good. Yep.
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-Great stuff.
-David f.: Thank you.
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Charles:
Thanks, carmen.
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Carmen:
Have a safe trip.
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Narrator:
Later that afternoon...
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As members of the team continue
their work in the swamp...
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Alex:
I brought a trowel
in case you need some help.
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Oh, excellent.
We can always use help.
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Narrator: ...Marty lagina's son
alex arrives at the foundation
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of late 18th-century oak island
landowner samuel ball.
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Laird:
We've got the cellar
all cleaned out.
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Just some final, you know,
getting rid of dirt,
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-excavating in there.
-Mm-hmm. It looks good.
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Narrator:
It is here where archeologists
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laird niven and liz michels
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continue their meticulous
investigation
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for clues that might help
explain how mr. Ball,
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a simple cabbage farmer
and former american slave,
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mysteriously became
a very wealthy man
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by the early 19th century.
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alex:
Piece of pottery here.
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Laird:
Oh, you should find lots.
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I see why you needed
somebody to sift.
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Laird:
Yeah.
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-I could be here all day.
-It slows things down.
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That's true.
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Marty: I'm impressed with the
patience these archaeologists
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have to unearth
all of that with a trowel.
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I'm very interested in what's
gone on on the ball foundation.
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They've been digging
over there for quite some time,
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and I want to see it.
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-There you are.
-Thank you.
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alex:
Hey, look at this.
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Laird:
Wow, that's cool.
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Alex:
Hey, look at this.
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I got a coin.
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I think.
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Narrator:
On lot 25,
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alex lagina has just found
what could be
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a significant discovery
in the spoils
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excavated
from the ball foundation.
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-It's got...
-Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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-Alex: A little green.
-Laird: Yeah.
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Yeah, this looks old.
It's got kind of...
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Irregular edges,
like a flat portion.
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It does look like the design
is a little off-center.
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I-I'll trust it to you.
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Laird:
Well, it's heavy enough.
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Alex:
When I first picked it out,
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I thought I could see a pattern,
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and it seemed off-center to me.
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Laird:
Oh, I see what you mean.
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Part of the reason
we're doing all this work
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on the ball foundation is
to investigate the possibility
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that samuel ball had a closer
involvement with the money pit
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than was previously known.
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So, if we can date this coin
to the same time period
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as these other finds
we're making, that's it.
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That's our connection.
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I see what you mean
about the edges.
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Yeah. I think, uh, we'll bag it.
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Get it to the research center
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-and see what we can see.
-Alex: Mm-hmm.
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I'll just--
I'll find a few more for you.
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Okay. Thank you.
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Narrator:
Later that afternoon,
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after a chilly
fall rainstorm has halted work
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near the swamp
and at the ball foundation...
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-Laird: Hey, guys.
-Rick: Hey.
-Alex: Hey.
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-Take a look at this.
-Wow.
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Narrator:
...Alex lagina and laird niven
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have gathered
in the research center
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with rick,
david and gary drayton
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to share their new discovery.
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So, this just came off
of the ball property.
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Oh.
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Alex: Found it sifting through
some of the stuff
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that-- the most recent test pit
that laird's been doing.
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-Right by the edge of the house.
-Yeah, northwest corner.
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Alex:
So, if you look,
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-you see the anchor
on the right.
-Gary: Yeah.
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So, is the middle an anchor
or is it a cross?
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If you pull it down
to show the edge...
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-Gary: It'll be a larger anchor.
-Laird: Yeah.
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-Well, there you can see it.
-Alex: Right there.
-Rick: There. Okay.
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Laird:
Yep.
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There's three anchors.
There's one on the right,
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there's a large one in the
middle, and then there's one
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-on the left.
-Rick: Oh, yeah.
-Laird: Oh, yeah.
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-Gary: And you can see...
-Alex: You can see
the other one on the left.
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Yeah, it looks like
little waves, and I can see
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a rope design around
the outside of it.
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I know what that is.
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Rick:
What is it?
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It's a-a navy jacket button.
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If it's got anchors on it
and a rope design around it.
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Without a doubt, that is
a british navy jacket button.
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Alex:
What time period
is this, though?
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Laird:
1804 to 1825.
Solidly within the ball period.
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Narrator:
A button from a member
of the british navy?
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Discovered in the foundation
of samuel ball's former home?
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Although he was
a member of the british military
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during the american revolution,
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he was not known to have been
part of the british navy.
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So, then just who did
this button belong to?
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We've been searching
and searching for some
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military connection
to samuel ball because we know
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he served the british during
our revolutionary war,
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uh, which is how
he gained his freedom
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and came to nova scotia, so...
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-I think you just made
that connection.
-Yeah.
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Alex:
It's one of the nicest
buttons we've found
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-in terms of legibility.
-Rick: The front is spectacular.
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-Gary: Yeah.
-Rick: I mean,
those anchors are amazing.
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I look forward to-to seeing
how much information
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-we can get off of this.
-Yeah.
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-It's a beautiful piece.
-Laird: Oh, yeah.
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Rick:
Whether there's
more information or not.
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-It's stunning.
-Gary: Yeah.
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I think that is...
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Gold or gilding right there.
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-Laird: I think so.
That would make sense.
-Gary: Yeah.
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That would point to officer
though, wouldn't it?
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Yeah, normally
the officers had the...
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-The gilded buttons.
-Yeah.
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Narrator:
An officer's button?
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If so, why did a high-ranking
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british naval officer
visit the home
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of samuel ball on oak island?
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And could it have something to
do with the mysterious wealth
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ball came to possess?
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Marty: It's a royal navy
button and, apparently,
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it would be somebody
on a ship of some import.
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An important person.
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What's that doing
in samuel ball's foundation?
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I mean, we're talking about
an officer being in his house.
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That's kind of a big deal,
I think.
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Okay. Thank you.
Thanks for calling. Good find.
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-Alex: We will keep you posted.
Thank you.
-All right, mate.
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All right. See you later, guys.
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Narrator:
The following morning...
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-Gary: Hey, guys.
-Aaron: Hey, gary.
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Narrator: ...Gary drayton
and david fornetti
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join rick lagina and
archeologists dr. Aaron taylor
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and miriam amirault near the
northeastern border of the swamp
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to continue
searching for valuable clues
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along the mysterious
stone pathway,
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and for more evidence
of just where it leads.
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-Gary: Wow, looks like
you've been busy.
-Aaron: Yeah.
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David and I would like to start
back up metal detecting here
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because we never ever
did finish this track,
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and we was moving this way.
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So, we're back to zigzag
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-along this area.
-Perfect.
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-Up this hill.
-Yeah.
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Gary:
Okay, mate.
We'll see what we can find
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because me and david have been
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on fire recently, haven't we?
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Every time we go out,
we find something good.
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Let's keep that rolling, mate.
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(detector beeping)
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(beeping)
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I'm definitely getting
an iron signal here.
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A little chirpy signal.
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-Uh, do you want us to dig it?
-Yeah, go ahead, david.
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-Is that okay if dave
and I investigate?
-Aaron: Yeah.
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(detector whines)
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seems to be in that area there.
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Aaron:
Are you getting
some cobbles there, david?
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It certainly looks that way.
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Aaron:
I might just finish
that up with a trowel.
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-Yup.
-Okay.
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Let me see if I can narrow
the search down for you.
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(beeping)
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it moved just a little ways off.
It's in that section there.
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Aaron:
If it's under the rock,
then that's very helpful because
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-it would
predate the putting down...
-Gary: Yeah.
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...Of these cobbles
if they were actually put down.
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-All right. Yeah.
-Gary: You want me to do it?
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(beeping)
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gary:
There. Spot on there, mate.
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So, you stick your
trowel in there, mate,
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you've got it in situ.
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It's iron by the sound of it.
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(aaron sputters)
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ugh. Seismic blasting caps.
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We keep finding those all over.
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Narrator: Although finding
a blasting cap
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from the seismic survey
that was run across the swamp
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two years ago
is a disappointment,
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it was that operation
that revealed
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a 200-foot-long anomaly,
eerily resembling
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the shape of a large sailing
vessel, which remains buried
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in the middle of the mucky,
brackish bog.
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It is the team's hope to conduct
a largescale dig next year
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with the help of a massive
sheet-piling cofferdam
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to find out just what
that anomaly really is.
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Mystery solved.
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-Yeah.
-I'll keep going.
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(beeping)
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I'm getting a signal here.
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(detector whining)
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just there, miriam.
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Still in the same area.
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(beeping)
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ooh, right on it. Just there.
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(beeping)
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-(beeping)
-oh, wow. Look at that!
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Gary:
Oh, wow. Look at that.
Well, that's nice.
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Narrator: Just northeast
of the oak island swamp,
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gary drayton has unearthed
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what could be
an important discovery.
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Gary: It's a little
square-headed nail.
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Square shank, by the look of it.
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That's like a little
ox shoe nail.
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Aaron:
Oh.
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I thought you'd find us
an ox shoe,
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-but, you know,
that's just as good.
-Gary: Yep. That's a fastener.
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-It was used to put
the ox shoe on.
-Aaron: Yeah.
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Which is another,
you know, check in the box for:
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This is a road or a path.
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That's great.
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Now, you got to put
two and two together.
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We've got a stone road.
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We've got fasteners.
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We're on oak island.
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It's pretty clear
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that some kind of
treasure-hauling operation
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was done in this area.
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Aaron:
You wouldn't think
you'd get so excited
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about something that small.
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So, I'm going to bag that
and then let you guys
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-get back to detecting.
-Okay, mate.
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Good digging, miriam.
That's a good find.
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Narrator:
Later that afternoon...
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Rick: This is the man of
the hour. Stuart wentzell.
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-Hi, stuart. Nice to meet you.
-Hey, stuart.
-Hi.
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Narrator: ...Rick lagina
and members of the team
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gather in the research center
with stuart wentzell,
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a local treasure hunter
who worked for
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rick, marty and craig's
late friend and partner
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dan blankenship
back in the 1970s.
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Charles:
Stuart, I know
you've worked on oak island
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-since probably
you were a young boy.
-Yes.
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Charles: Working with dan.
You worked a lot with dan.
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Lots of memories, lots of times.
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-Right.
-Stuart: So, dan would have me
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and my brother come over
on the weekends.
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00:20:38,655 --> 00:20:39,862
-(all laugh)
-right?
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I met stuart wentzell, uh,
the very first year I was here.
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He had told me about these
wharfs off the samuel ball lot.
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And now,
all of a sudden, we find
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a british naval button
at the ball foundation.
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00:20:55,964 --> 00:20:58,506
Maybe it's something
associated with a wharf.
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The point is,
we mustn't fail to follow up
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on this local knowledge, uh,
which we were not privy to.
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So, uh, this is
all about the possibility
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or the potential
of a dive or dives,
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uh, related to some discoveries
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-that you had
made mention of in the past.
-Yes.
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So, what's the most interesting
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search agenda-related activity
that you were involved with?
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Right.
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-Is that right?
-Stuart: Yes.
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Ball had two wharfs.
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00:21:51,269 --> 00:21:52,727
It's absolutely there.
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Yeah.
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So, what are the areas
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-that you're interested in,
in terms of the dive?
-Okay.
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00:21:59,861 --> 00:22:01,319
All right.
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00:22:08,953 --> 00:22:10,494
Yeah.
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Narrator:
The use of large rocks,
or cribbing stones,
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in the construction
of shipping wharfs
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00:22:18,546 --> 00:22:21,213
dates back
more than five centuries.
448
00:22:21,299 --> 00:22:24,633
Stacked between layers of wood
timbers, they offered support
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00:22:24,719 --> 00:22:27,845
in the design of docks
for large sailing vessels.
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Rick:
When you dove that,
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00:22:31,184 --> 00:22:34,352
-yeah.
-Did you see remnants
of the old wharf?
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Wooden parts of it?
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00:22:36,898 --> 00:22:38,022
Yeah.
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00:22:53,373 --> 00:22:55,998
-Yeah.
-Mm-hmm. All right,
so I'm gonna circle it
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on this so that
we can keep track.
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-So, it's somewhere
in that area there.
-Stuart: Yes, alex.
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00:23:01,881 --> 00:23:04,548
-Alex: Okay.
-Yeah, and here's
the other place.
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00:23:04,634 --> 00:23:06,675
Right here was the second one.
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00:23:06,719 --> 00:23:08,511
Okay, so, if you want to
stick a circle
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around that one as well, alex.
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Narrator:
If there really are two wharfs
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bordering the property
once owned by samuel ball,
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might he have
built both of them?
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Or is it possible that one
was constructed much earlier?
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If so, then by whom?
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And could it offer clues
that might help explain
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how samuel ball became
one of the richest men
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in nova scotia?
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00:23:33,955 --> 00:23:36,872
There is concrete
evidence of substantial works
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prior to 1795 and a lot of them.
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00:23:39,252 --> 00:23:41,085
A lot went on on that island.
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00:23:41,129 --> 00:23:44,505
So, if somebody did build
a wooden wharf there,
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there was some
significant reason why.
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I would love to go and have
a look at that, stuart.
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00:23:52,181 --> 00:23:54,432
Well, I'd love to put you in
the boat. We'll go out there
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and I'll jump over the side.
477
00:23:58,646 --> 00:24:00,271
-Excellent.
-Rick: Well, thanks, guys.
478
00:24:00,314 --> 00:24:01,564
That was a great discussion.
479
00:24:01,649 --> 00:24:04,900
-You plan out the dive.
Get it set up.
-Yeah.
480
00:24:04,986 --> 00:24:06,777
You two gentlemen will be there
481
00:24:06,821 --> 00:24:08,779
to observe
and watch and take notes.
482
00:24:08,823 --> 00:24:11,282
Okay. Well, you guys
got your work ahead of you.
483
00:24:11,325 --> 00:24:12,950
-Yup.
-And I look forward to
484
00:24:12,994 --> 00:24:14,702
-the dive results.
-Yes.
485
00:24:14,787 --> 00:24:16,036
-Rick: Let's get after it.
-Alex: Sounds good.
486
00:24:16,122 --> 00:24:16,954
Tony:
Fantastic.
487
00:24:22,295 --> 00:24:24,920
-Tony: Good morning, guys.
-David f.: How you doing?
488
00:24:24,964 --> 00:24:27,465
Narrator: One day
after the team's meeting
489
00:24:27,508 --> 00:24:31,093
with former oak island
treasure hunter stuart wentzell,
490
00:24:31,179 --> 00:24:34,472
they have invited him to join
professional diver tony sampson,
491
00:24:34,515 --> 00:24:37,308
alex lagina and his cousin
david fornetti,
492
00:24:37,393 --> 00:24:39,351
at the oak island resort
and marina...
493
00:24:39,437 --> 00:24:40,603
Tony:
Okay. Let's head out.
494
00:24:40,646 --> 00:24:42,730
Narrator:
...To begin a dive operation
495
00:24:42,815 --> 00:24:44,982
that will focus on the waters
just off the shore
496
00:24:45,026 --> 00:24:49,820
of lots 25 and 26 at
the western end of oak island.
497
00:24:50,865 --> 00:24:53,449
So, the first location--
you know where
498
00:24:53,534 --> 00:24:55,868
-that freshwater pond is?
-Yep.
499
00:24:55,953 --> 00:24:58,746
Hopefully, we're going to see
remains of the crib down there.
500
00:24:58,831 --> 00:25:01,624
So, the wooden structure
which would have held
501
00:25:01,709 --> 00:25:03,501
the stones in the crib.
502
00:25:03,544 --> 00:25:05,169
-Eight feet you said, stuart?
-Yep.
503
00:25:05,213 --> 00:25:06,670
-Eight feet wide.
-So, about eight feet wide.
504
00:25:06,756 --> 00:25:09,340
Narrator:
Of interest to the team
505
00:25:09,383 --> 00:25:11,509
are the remains
of two stone ships' wharfs,
506
00:25:11,552 --> 00:25:15,179
that stuart first investigated
in the 1970s
507
00:25:15,264 --> 00:25:17,765
while working
for dan blankenship,
508
00:25:17,850 --> 00:25:20,142
that bordered
the property once owned
509
00:25:20,228 --> 00:25:23,354
by the mysteriously wealthy
18th-century island resident
510
00:25:23,439 --> 00:25:25,189
samuel ball.
511
00:25:25,233 --> 00:25:27,191
David f.: And, tony,
when you're down there,
512
00:25:27,235 --> 00:25:29,193
do you have
a metal detector with you?
513
00:25:29,237 --> 00:25:31,362
-Or how are you
going to detect this?
-Tony: Yeah.
514
00:25:31,405 --> 00:25:34,198
So, we'll have visual, and we'll
also run a metal detector,
515
00:25:34,283 --> 00:25:36,075
an underwater
metal detector over it.
516
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,786
It may sort of indicate
metallic fasteners that
517
00:25:38,871 --> 00:25:40,871
might have been used
in a wharf structure.
518
00:25:40,915 --> 00:25:43,499
So, similar to large
shipping spikes.
519
00:25:43,584 --> 00:25:46,085
-It would have held
the wharf together.
-That'd be cool.
520
00:25:46,170 --> 00:25:47,253
That would be very cool.
521
00:25:48,256 --> 00:25:50,047
Tony's going to bring
a metal detector,
522
00:25:50,091 --> 00:25:51,757
and he's going
to scan the bottom
523
00:25:51,842 --> 00:25:55,302
for wharf pins or anything
that might have been dropped
524
00:25:55,388 --> 00:25:56,679
when this thing
was in existence.
525
00:25:56,722 --> 00:25:59,223
Those are the things
that I'm most excited about
526
00:25:59,267 --> 00:26:02,851
because those can help us date
anything we might find.
527
00:26:02,895 --> 00:26:06,522
Well, guys, I think we're just
about on target one up here.
528
00:26:07,984 --> 00:26:09,858
Okay. I might get kitted up,
529
00:26:09,902 --> 00:26:11,694
and we'll go and see
what we can find, eh?
530
00:26:11,779 --> 00:26:13,696
-Yeah. Great. Great, tony.
-Alex: Great.
531
00:26:13,739 --> 00:26:15,531
We've tried to answer the
question of who samuel ball was
532
00:26:15,575 --> 00:26:16,907
from the land side.
533
00:26:16,951 --> 00:26:18,576
This is from the ocean side.
534
00:26:18,661 --> 00:26:21,328
So, until today,
when we're looking
535
00:26:21,414 --> 00:26:23,831
at the ocean side,
we haven't even begun to explore
536
00:26:23,916 --> 00:26:25,749
that side of his life.
So, it could be
537
00:26:25,793 --> 00:26:27,876
hiding some
pretty interesting artifacts.
538
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,587
So, we'll go down there,
539
00:26:29,630 --> 00:26:31,255
and we'll investigate that.
540
00:26:31,340 --> 00:26:33,257
In my perfect little world,
it would be great
541
00:26:33,342 --> 00:26:35,426
to find some artifacts
dating back
542
00:26:35,511 --> 00:26:37,469
from the 16, 1700s,
543
00:26:37,555 --> 00:26:39,179
but even to find the remains
544
00:26:39,265 --> 00:26:40,973
of these structures
would be interesting.
545
00:26:41,976 --> 00:26:45,102
-Alex: All right, tony.
Good luck.
-Thanks, buddy.
546
00:26:48,482 --> 00:26:49,773
Alex:
He's in.
547
00:27:03,873 --> 00:27:06,290
Testing, tony.
Do you hear me? Over.
548
00:27:21,682 --> 00:27:24,808
That's great, tony.
Keep us posted. Over.
549
00:27:51,045 --> 00:27:53,087
Alex: Copy you, tony.
What do you see?
550
00:27:53,172 --> 00:27:54,505
Over.
551
00:28:00,554 --> 00:28:02,179
Alex: Can you confirm?
552
00:28:02,223 --> 00:28:04,139
Does it look like a wharf?
Over.
553
00:28:10,231 --> 00:28:11,480
Copy.
554
00:28:19,115 --> 00:28:20,572
Alex:
Copy.
555
00:28:20,658 --> 00:28:23,367
Any metal detector hits?
Over.
556
00:28:27,456 --> 00:28:29,206
-What'd he say?
-Copy you.
557
00:28:29,250 --> 00:28:31,208
-No metal detector hits.
-No metal detector hits.
558
00:28:32,837 --> 00:28:34,253
Alex:
We've been listening to tony
559
00:28:34,338 --> 00:28:35,963
go back and forth
over these comms,
560
00:28:36,048 --> 00:28:37,256
and every time he does,
561
00:28:37,299 --> 00:28:38,632
I ask him if he's got
a metal detector hit.
562
00:28:38,718 --> 00:28:39,758
The answer's always no.
563
00:28:39,844 --> 00:28:41,552
It's a little frustrating
564
00:28:41,595 --> 00:28:43,679
to have to sit this one out
on the boat.
565
00:28:43,723 --> 00:28:46,181
But I'm hoping tony sees
clear evidence of this wharf,
566
00:28:46,225 --> 00:28:47,808
and I'm really hoping
that he gets
567
00:28:47,893 --> 00:28:49,393
a metal detector hit
while he's out there.
568
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,358
Alex: He should be seeing
it right now.
569
00:28:56,444 --> 00:28:58,235
It's just frustrating
he can't hear us.
570
00:29:00,448 --> 00:29:02,740
Copy you, tony.
What do you see? Over.
571
00:29:07,913 --> 00:29:10,122
Narrator:
Is it possible
that stuart wentzell
572
00:29:10,207 --> 00:29:13,500
was mistaken about the remains
of a wharf in this area?
573
00:29:13,586 --> 00:29:16,086
Or could it be,
that because of nearly
574
00:29:16,130 --> 00:29:18,756
five decades of erosion
and seasonal storms,
575
00:29:18,841 --> 00:29:21,800
that the evidence of
a potential valuable clue
576
00:29:21,886 --> 00:29:23,927
about samuel ball's history
577
00:29:23,971 --> 00:29:26,764
has simply been weathered away?
578
00:29:30,269 --> 00:29:31,894
I hear you, tony.
Over.
579
00:29:58,172 --> 00:29:59,171
Alex: Great job, tony.
580
00:29:59,256 --> 00:30:00,714
Keep us posted. Over.
581
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,633
Narrator: In the waters
just off lot 26
582
00:30:02,718 --> 00:30:03,592
on the western side
of oak island,
583
00:30:03,636 --> 00:30:06,136
tony sampson has just discovered
584
00:30:06,180 --> 00:30:08,972
the possible remains
of a stone ship's wharf.
585
00:30:09,016 --> 00:30:10,140
What do you think?
586
00:30:10,226 --> 00:30:12,100
He might have found cribbing?
587
00:30:12,186 --> 00:30:13,977
I mean, how does
that make you feel?
588
00:30:20,069 --> 00:30:21,318
I think so.
589
00:30:29,036 --> 00:30:31,328
We hear you, tony.
Go ahead. Over.
590
00:30:36,210 --> 00:30:39,002
Did you get
any metal detector hits? Over.
591
00:30:42,466 --> 00:30:45,926
Are you moving on to target
two or staying there?
592
00:30:46,011 --> 00:30:47,135
Over.
593
00:30:50,724 --> 00:30:54,142
Narrator:
Although tony has been able
to confirm stuart's claim
594
00:30:54,186 --> 00:30:57,521
of a potentially ancient wharf
having been built here,
595
00:30:57,565 --> 00:31:00,399
there doesn't appear
to be any metal objects
596
00:31:00,484 --> 00:31:02,150
or valuable clues.
597
00:31:03,070 --> 00:31:05,737
Tony will now search
for the team's second target:
598
00:31:05,823 --> 00:31:07,823
Another reported stone wharf.
599
00:31:07,908 --> 00:31:10,659
However, this one is much closer
600
00:31:10,744 --> 00:31:12,536
to where samuel ball
built his home,
601
00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:16,039
and thus hopefully
will offer valuable clues
602
00:31:16,083 --> 00:31:19,209
that might help explain
his mysterious wealth.
603
00:31:23,215 --> 00:31:25,382
Mm-hmm.
604
00:31:29,555 --> 00:31:32,639
David f.: It looks like
he's almost 100 feet out there.
605
00:31:32,725 --> 00:31:33,724
From the shore.
606
00:31:36,270 --> 00:31:38,520
He's seen them rock piles.
607
00:31:38,564 --> 00:31:41,690
-You know there's a big
rock pile out there?
-Yeah, yeah, yeah.
608
00:31:45,487 --> 00:31:47,154
Alex:
If he's 100 feet out there,
609
00:31:47,239 --> 00:31:48,906
-and he's seeing signs
of a wharf--
-stuart: Yeah.
610
00:31:48,949 --> 00:31:50,282
If that's what he's seeing--
611
00:31:50,367 --> 00:31:51,533
that's a big wharf.
612
00:31:51,619 --> 00:31:53,035
I mean,
that could have accommodated
613
00:31:53,078 --> 00:31:54,536
-a pretty big ship.
-Stuart: Yeah.
614
00:31:54,622 --> 00:31:56,622
Narrator:
The second wharf?
615
00:31:56,707 --> 00:32:00,751
Possibly extending as much as
100 feet out into mahone bay?
616
00:32:00,836 --> 00:32:04,254
If so, what would
samuel ball have needed
617
00:32:04,298 --> 00:32:06,882
such a large docking
station for?
618
00:32:06,967 --> 00:32:09,426
Could it be a clue to explain
619
00:32:09,511 --> 00:32:12,137
why the team found
a british naval officer's button
620
00:32:12,222 --> 00:32:15,057
in the ball foundation
two days ago?
621
00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:17,351
If there was a wharf
that big here,
622
00:32:17,436 --> 00:32:19,102
what would
be the purpose of that?
623
00:32:26,904 --> 00:32:28,779
Alex: We hear you, tony.
624
00:32:28,822 --> 00:32:31,907
Did you see
a big pile of rocks? Over.
625
00:32:43,712 --> 00:32:48,131
So, no hits, but you think
you did find the wharf. Over.
626
00:32:56,183 --> 00:32:59,142
Copy you.
We'll see you soon. Over.
627
00:32:59,186 --> 00:33:02,771
The most exciting of the targets
that we dove was
628
00:33:02,856 --> 00:33:05,148
the large wharf
on ball's property.
629
00:33:05,234 --> 00:33:07,985
Because that is something
that we had no record of.
630
00:33:08,028 --> 00:33:11,405
We didn't know it was there.
It's so large as to be
631
00:33:11,490 --> 00:33:13,991
impossible to be
just a fisherman's wharf.
632
00:33:14,076 --> 00:33:16,743
And we're finding other things
in the area like the navy button
633
00:33:16,829 --> 00:33:19,705
that are implying
a closer relationship
634
00:33:19,790 --> 00:33:21,832
with seafaring than we thought.
635
00:33:21,917 --> 00:33:23,875
Okay, you were right, stuart.
636
00:33:23,961 --> 00:33:25,794
As you come down, you can see
637
00:33:25,838 --> 00:33:27,462
where the old crib areas were.
638
00:33:27,506 --> 00:33:29,256
I hit the area
with the metal detector.
639
00:33:29,341 --> 00:33:32,259
Both the, um,
both the wharf-like structures.
640
00:33:32,344 --> 00:33:34,302
And, uh, no metallic
signatures down there.
641
00:33:34,346 --> 00:33:37,681
Did you think the second one,
target two, was a larger wharf?
642
00:33:37,725 --> 00:33:40,809
I did actually, alex, yeah.
It came out further as well.
643
00:33:41,770 --> 00:33:43,937
So, one wharf being
smaller than the other
644
00:33:44,023 --> 00:33:45,939
may have been an area
where you brought, uh,
645
00:33:46,025 --> 00:33:49,192
a dinghy, or a fishing boat,
or a small dory into.
646
00:33:49,236 --> 00:33:52,029
The one being large,
that speaks to something
647
00:33:52,072 --> 00:33:55,032
of a commercial nature or,
for a wharf of that size,
648
00:33:55,075 --> 00:33:58,201
you'd expect it
to be more than one person.
649
00:33:58,245 --> 00:34:01,830
So, either military
or maybe excavating
650
00:34:01,874 --> 00:34:03,707
or almost like a quarry work.
651
00:34:03,792 --> 00:34:05,584
Something there's
gonna be heavy product
652
00:34:05,669 --> 00:34:07,836
either coming
on or off the island.
653
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,588
So, those rocks there
were square.
654
00:34:09,673 --> 00:34:12,007
And like you said, stuart,
they had been worked as well,
655
00:34:12,092 --> 00:34:13,592
-some of them.
-Yes.
656
00:34:13,677 --> 00:34:15,135
So, you're confident then that
two wharfs are...
657
00:34:15,220 --> 00:34:17,888
I-I'm confident
that these were two wharfs.
658
00:34:17,931 --> 00:34:21,183
Do you think that one might have
belonged to captain anderson
659
00:34:21,268 --> 00:34:22,726
-at one stage?
-Yes.
660
00:34:22,811 --> 00:34:25,228
Because his property
was, um, next door
661
00:34:25,314 --> 00:34:27,773
-to sam ball's,
and they became friends.
-Right.
662
00:34:27,858 --> 00:34:30,692
Narrator:
Originally from
baltimore, maryland,
663
00:34:30,736 --> 00:34:33,070
james anderson
was a notorious pirate,
664
00:34:33,155 --> 00:34:36,740
privateer and
high-ranking freemason
665
00:34:36,784 --> 00:34:39,284
who pledged his loyalty
to the united states
666
00:34:39,369 --> 00:34:42,245
during the american revolution.
667
00:34:42,289 --> 00:34:46,083
However, after taking command
of a ship known as the betsy
668
00:34:46,168 --> 00:34:49,336
and the valuable cargo
it was rumored to be carrying,
669
00:34:49,421 --> 00:34:52,923
he defected to the british
and fled to canada,
670
00:34:53,008 --> 00:34:55,342
where he purchased lot 26
on oak island,
671
00:34:55,427 --> 00:34:58,595
living there
until he sold the property
672
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,431
to fellow british soldier
samuel ball.
673
00:35:01,475 --> 00:35:03,517
Could the remains of this wharf
674
00:35:03,602 --> 00:35:06,186
represent an important clue
as to why
675
00:35:06,271 --> 00:35:09,439
samuel ball bought this property
from captain anderson?
676
00:35:09,483 --> 00:35:12,692
And could it also be connected
to the great wealth
677
00:35:12,778 --> 00:35:16,863
he came to possess while living
on oak island himself?
678
00:35:16,949 --> 00:35:18,907
Alex:
What about
the stones in between?
679
00:35:18,992 --> 00:35:20,784
Did you notice
that they were not native
680
00:35:20,828 --> 00:35:22,244
to the landscape down there?
681
00:35:22,287 --> 00:35:23,745
Did they look like
maybe they were bedrock
682
00:35:23,831 --> 00:35:25,205
cast off from the island?
683
00:35:25,290 --> 00:35:27,207
Some of them did look like
684
00:35:27,292 --> 00:35:30,210
uh, they had been cut,
or they were completely smooth.
685
00:35:30,295 --> 00:35:33,421
So, unlike the normal rocks
that you get around here
686
00:35:33,465 --> 00:35:35,799
that you can
see on the shoreline, um,
687
00:35:35,843 --> 00:35:38,593
some of them in those cribbed
areas you'll actually see
688
00:35:38,679 --> 00:35:39,761
are flat, almost like
the bedrock stones
689
00:35:39,847 --> 00:35:41,054
-you've got on the island.
-Alex: Got it.
690
00:35:41,140 --> 00:35:43,348
-So they've been worked
-tony: Yeah.
-Yeah.
691
00:35:43,433 --> 00:35:45,392
Alex:
So, I think we should
go back to the war room
692
00:35:45,477 --> 00:35:46,768
and let the guys know
that we found proof
693
00:35:46,812 --> 00:35:48,061
of what you've
been saying, stuart.
694
00:35:48,147 --> 00:35:50,147
-Fantastic.
-Yes, yes.
695
00:35:50,190 --> 00:35:52,649
-Stuart: Very good, tony.
-Alex: Yeah, great job.
696
00:35:58,198 --> 00:35:59,447
Tony: So, what we did,
we went to those areas
697
00:35:59,533 --> 00:36:01,491
off sam ball's property
by the freshwater pond.
698
00:36:01,535 --> 00:36:03,702
Narrator: After completing
their dive investigation
699
00:36:03,787 --> 00:36:06,079
off the western shore
of oak island,
700
00:36:06,165 --> 00:36:08,790
tony sampson,
along with alex lagina,
701
00:36:08,876 --> 00:36:12,878
david fornetti, and stuart
wentzell deliver their report
702
00:36:12,963 --> 00:36:14,629
to rick, marty
and members of the team
703
00:36:14,715 --> 00:36:16,882
in the war room.
704
00:36:16,967 --> 00:36:19,426
Alex:
Well, we took some video.
705
00:36:19,511 --> 00:36:21,428
So, I've got that
here that we can watch.
706
00:36:21,513 --> 00:36:23,305
Great!
707
00:36:24,892 --> 00:36:27,309
Alex:
This is wharf one.
708
00:36:27,352 --> 00:36:29,269
Tony:
So, it's a flat, rocky area,
709
00:36:29,354 --> 00:36:31,646
which would have been
cribbed in the old days.
710
00:36:31,732 --> 00:36:33,899
So, it would have been
a square, uh, crib
711
00:36:33,984 --> 00:36:36,026
that would have held the rocks.
712
00:36:36,069 --> 00:36:39,154
And, so as you, uh, descend
from there down into the water,
713
00:36:39,198 --> 00:36:41,615
you can actually see
ballast piles
714
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:44,910
from what would have been
the rocks inside the crib,
715
00:36:44,995 --> 00:36:47,329
which has now been destroyed,
obviously, with the storms
716
00:36:47,372 --> 00:36:49,206
and the hurricanes
over the years.
717
00:36:50,083 --> 00:36:53,043
And a lot of
these ballast stones as such
718
00:36:53,128 --> 00:36:55,879
has now grown over with kelp.
719
00:36:55,923 --> 00:36:58,673
-Sure.
-Tony: The second wharf--
720
00:36:58,717 --> 00:36:59,966
that was the longer one.
721
00:37:00,010 --> 00:37:03,011
So, it's the western side
of the freshwater pond.
722
00:37:03,096 --> 00:37:04,387
Tony:
Yeah, correct.
723
00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:08,183
This is when we're getting
into the deeper water.
724
00:37:08,227 --> 00:37:10,393
This is where there's big rocks.
725
00:37:12,439 --> 00:37:15,065
Quite often,
you'd find these flatter ones
726
00:37:15,108 --> 00:37:17,692
on the bottom of the crib.
727
00:37:17,778 --> 00:37:21,238
-How deep?
-Uh, that would have
been 19 feet at high tide.
728
00:37:21,281 --> 00:37:24,741
If you go back, say,
oh, 300 years,
729
00:37:24,826 --> 00:37:27,869
you would be 12 feet maximum
at high tide.
730
00:37:27,955 --> 00:37:29,746
Six feet at low tide.
731
00:37:29,790 --> 00:37:32,082
When we were looking,
we saw bubbles coming up,
732
00:37:32,125 --> 00:37:35,418
and we were estimating it to be
75 to 100 feet from shore.
733
00:37:35,504 --> 00:37:37,754
-Mm-hmm.
-Alex: At least, but you were
734
00:37:37,798 --> 00:37:39,297
-a long way off shore.
-Yeah.
735
00:37:39,383 --> 00:37:41,216
So, that's a huge, huge wharf.
736
00:37:41,301 --> 00:37:43,927
-Yeah.
-That's good.
737
00:37:44,012 --> 00:37:46,429
How could he have built that?
738
00:37:46,473 --> 00:37:50,225
I don't know. You know, that's-
that's the big question, there.
739
00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:52,060
What do you think
of that, stuart?
740
00:37:52,145 --> 00:37:55,230
-You've built wharfs before,
by hand.
-Stuart: Yeah. Yes.
741
00:38:10,163 --> 00:38:11,621
Wow.
742
00:38:12,666 --> 00:38:14,124
Yeah.
743
00:38:14,167 --> 00:38:15,792
I won't say stunned,
744
00:38:15,836 --> 00:38:18,920
but I did not anticipate
finding two wharfs
745
00:38:19,006 --> 00:38:21,423
off the samuel ball lot.
746
00:38:21,508 --> 00:38:24,843
It seems redundant, overkill.
Why do you need two wharfs?
747
00:38:24,928 --> 00:38:27,804
A 16-foot-wide wharf
748
00:38:27,848 --> 00:38:30,432
to a gentleman farmer
to sell his crops?
749
00:38:30,517 --> 00:38:32,642
It doesn't make sense.
750
00:38:32,728 --> 00:38:36,271
Marty:
It speaks to every aspect of
what we know about samuel ball.
751
00:38:36,356 --> 00:38:38,940
He's smart, he's capable,
752
00:38:38,984 --> 00:38:41,109
and he may have had...
753
00:38:41,153 --> 00:38:43,695
Some things we're unaware of.
754
00:38:43,780 --> 00:38:46,156
Alex:
So, I wouldn't think
755
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:49,200
you'd build a giant wharf
for a one-time transfer.
756
00:38:49,286 --> 00:38:51,745
-No.
-Rick: I don't know. What about
757
00:38:51,830 --> 00:38:54,456
the stone road
and the stone path?
758
00:38:54,541 --> 00:38:56,249
Alex:
I know. I agree.
759
00:38:56,335 --> 00:38:57,792
But I think that
that fits,
760
00:38:57,878 --> 00:39:00,879
-because it fits the story
of a big excavation
-mm-hmm.
761
00:39:00,964 --> 00:39:02,505
Because of the amount of
762
00:39:02,549 --> 00:39:04,215
-back and forth
you'd have to do.
-Rick: Yep.
763
00:39:04,301 --> 00:39:06,468
Alex:
If that was their purpose,
764
00:39:06,511 --> 00:39:10,263
it would have been to support
the hiding of the treasure.
765
00:39:10,349 --> 00:39:12,223
Not just the unloading.
Not just the transporting.
766
00:39:12,309 --> 00:39:14,726
Now, it wasn't buried
in a ten-foot pit.
767
00:39:14,811 --> 00:39:18,480
To me, it supports the idea
that they did a lot of work.
768
00:39:18,565 --> 00:39:21,733
One thing I find interesting
is that wharf location,
769
00:39:21,818 --> 00:39:23,985
and at the bottom
of the ball property there was
770
00:39:24,071 --> 00:39:25,570
a lot of buttons
and things found.
771
00:39:25,655 --> 00:39:28,198
To me, that's from
more than one person.
772
00:39:28,241 --> 00:39:30,825
You come off the ship,
you get on land, people
773
00:39:30,911 --> 00:39:33,620
-would congregate there.
-Dan: Yeah. The thing
about oak island
774
00:39:33,705 --> 00:39:37,540
is that it would be a good base
for seafaring people.
775
00:39:37,584 --> 00:39:40,668
Uh, british certainly had
good reason to use it.
776
00:39:40,754 --> 00:39:43,588
Alex:
Yeah. And that is where
we found that navy button.
777
00:39:43,673 --> 00:39:45,757
And we did not have
778
00:39:45,842 --> 00:39:48,134
any knowledge of him
being involved with the navy
779
00:39:48,220 --> 00:39:51,554
other than the 16-foot-wide,
hundred-foot-long wharf.
780
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:54,641
Rick:
There's no question
781
00:39:54,726 --> 00:39:57,394
that the find of this wharf--
which, again,
782
00:39:57,437 --> 00:40:00,313
a local resident
has provided this information--
783
00:40:00,399 --> 00:40:04,734
what it does is it's helpful
with figuring out
784
00:40:04,778 --> 00:40:07,362
what a search agenda
in the future might look like,
785
00:40:07,406 --> 00:40:09,406
because now we have a wharf,
786
00:40:09,449 --> 00:40:12,867
which we now, based on the find
of the stone road and pathway,
787
00:40:12,911 --> 00:40:14,869
are telling us that there's
788
00:40:14,955 --> 00:40:16,704
some aspect
to the oak island story
789
00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:19,457
that was previously
completely unknown.
790
00:40:19,543 --> 00:40:22,669
First, we thought we
wouldn't be here at all.
791
00:40:22,754 --> 00:40:26,881
And now we find ourselves
with more data, more information
792
00:40:26,925 --> 00:40:31,719
than we probably could have
acquired in a non-covid year.
793
00:40:31,763 --> 00:40:34,639
-Which is astounding, right?
-Yeah.
794
00:40:34,724 --> 00:40:36,766
But what it says is
795
00:40:36,810 --> 00:40:39,727
there's a lot of homework
for each and every one of us,
796
00:40:39,771 --> 00:40:42,105
and there's only one way to do
it. We say it all the time.
797
00:40:42,149 --> 00:40:44,607
It's not going to be done
here sitting in chairs.
798
00:40:44,651 --> 00:40:45,984
Okay, guys.
Good job.
799
00:40:46,069 --> 00:40:48,820
You proved that it's worth
further investigation.
800
00:40:48,905 --> 00:40:50,655
-Let's get after it.
-Okay.
801
00:40:51,616 --> 00:40:55,076
Narrator:
For rick, marty,
craig and their team,
802
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,287
the clues continue to mount
803
00:40:57,372 --> 00:40:59,122
that something
of profound importance
804
00:40:59,207 --> 00:41:02,750
took place centuries ago
on oak island.
805
00:41:02,836 --> 00:41:06,212
And given what
they have had to overcome
806
00:41:06,298 --> 00:41:09,466
in a year that has challenged
the entire world,
807
00:41:09,509 --> 00:41:14,471
their accomplishments have been
nothing short of extraordinary.
808
00:41:15,265 --> 00:41:17,640
But now, with winter coming
809
00:41:17,684 --> 00:41:19,809
and time running out
for this year,
810
00:41:19,853 --> 00:41:24,189
can they overcome
the odds one more time
811
00:41:24,274 --> 00:41:27,817
and make the ultimate discovery?
812
00:41:30,030 --> 00:41:32,614
Narrator: Next time on
the curse of oak island...
813
00:41:32,657 --> 00:41:34,282
Gary: Ooh! Look at that.
814
00:41:34,326 --> 00:41:37,327
Fantastic, mate! This is old.
815
00:41:37,370 --> 00:41:39,329
Laird: Often, the detail
is really cryptic.
816
00:41:39,372 --> 00:41:42,165
Rick: The only people who would
do that would be templars.
817
00:41:42,250 --> 00:41:45,210
-There's got to be
more out there.
-Whoa. What's that?
818
00:41:45,295 --> 00:41:47,086
-Whoa. Sweet.
-Miriam: Whoa.
819
00:41:47,172 --> 00:41:48,463
Ian: Oh, wow.
820
00:41:48,507 --> 00:41:49,797
We took the samples
to analyze
821
00:41:49,883 --> 00:41:51,883
for silver, and we got a spike.
822
00:41:51,968 --> 00:41:53,510
There's every reason to believe
823
00:41:53,595 --> 00:41:55,762
down in those
holes there's treasure.
824
00:41:55,847 --> 00:41:57,972
-Marty: Oh, baby!
-Jack: Oh, no way!
825
00:41:58,016 --> 00:42:01,017
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