1 00:00:08,883 --> 00:00:12,470 {\an8}Shocking revelations today about BoJack Horseman's involvement 2 00:00:12,554 --> 00:00:14,514 {\an8}in the overdose of Sarah Lynn, 3 00:00:14,597 --> 00:00:17,475 {\an8}in an explosive new "Hollywoo Reporter" exposé. 4 00:00:17,559 --> 00:00:20,103 {\an8}Is BoJack #canceled? 5 00:00:20,186 --> 00:00:23,106 {\an8}#Find-out-tonight when the horse himself sits down... 6 00:00:23,189 --> 00:00:25,775 On "Braxby Means Business with Biscuits Braxby," 7 00:00:25,859 --> 00:00:29,070 BoJack Horseman opens up in an exclusive interview. 8 00:00:29,154 --> 00:00:30,488 For the first time ever, 9 00:00:30,572 --> 00:00:34,409 we'll hear the real story of the last days of Sarah Lynn. 10 00:00:34,492 --> 00:00:35,660 I don't believe it. 11 00:00:35,994 --> 00:00:37,912 I left shoe leather in six different states 12 00:00:37,996 --> 00:00:39,497 and spun the scoop of my career 13 00:00:39,581 --> 00:00:42,834 all to get sidetracked by a sit-down with a second-rate celebrity suck-up. 14 00:00:42,917 --> 00:00:46,046 Relax. Your story's clearly doing something 15 00:00:46,129 --> 00:00:48,923 if they're scrambling to do damage control so fast. 16 00:00:49,007 --> 00:00:52,093 That's just it, Patience, my sister and lifelong confidante. 17 00:00:52,177 --> 00:00:53,970 These schmoozey charlatans will pour syrup 18 00:00:54,054 --> 00:00:57,140 all over this stack of Shinola and try to tell you it's pancakes. 19 00:00:57,223 --> 00:00:58,600 And I'm powerless to prevent it! 20 00:00:58,683 --> 00:01:00,810 Don't you have enough dirt for a whole other story? 21 00:01:00,894 --> 00:01:03,313 You know full well once I become Baxter's bride, 22 00:01:03,396 --> 00:01:05,732 I'm trading board rooms for bedrooms, watches for swatches 23 00:01:05,815 --> 00:01:07,442 and deadlines for bedtimes. 24 00:01:07,525 --> 00:01:10,153 Okay, so then get married and forget about this BoJack story. 25 00:01:10,236 --> 00:01:12,030 I mean, who cares, right? 26 00:01:12,113 --> 00:01:14,616 Patience, you cut to the core like a classic Sinclair. 27 00:01:14,699 --> 00:01:17,535 I shall miss making mincemeat of the misdeeds of mischievous miscreants, 28 00:01:17,619 --> 00:01:21,915 but I must focus on my new mission, as I transition from miss to missus. 29 00:01:22,916 --> 00:01:25,877 Why do you talk like that? We're from Fresno. 30 00:02:23,726 --> 00:02:26,146 Huh, they're really hyping up this BoJack interview. 31 00:02:26,229 --> 00:02:29,023 I gotta admit I'm kinda curious. You're gonna watch, right? 32 00:02:29,107 --> 00:02:32,402 No. I can't waste my energy getting worked up about that guy, Guy. 33 00:02:32,485 --> 00:02:34,654 I've done enough of that. Like, years of that. 34 00:02:34,737 --> 00:02:37,115 - Yeah, but it's not like you can just... - I need to work on my book. 35 00:02:37,198 --> 00:02:39,659 These mall-related mysteries aren't gonna solve themselves. 36 00:02:39,742 --> 00:02:41,703 Spoken like a very emotionally healthy woman, 37 00:02:41,786 --> 00:02:44,747 productive professional writer and super-cute girlfriend. 38 00:02:44,831 --> 00:02:46,374 We already know what BoJack's gonna say. 39 00:02:46,457 --> 00:02:48,585 He'll admit to everything in the story, but nothing else. 40 00:02:48,668 --> 00:02:51,254 He'll trot out this sad-sack routine, everyone will feel bad for him. 41 00:02:51,337 --> 00:02:52,380 He'll talk about his addictions. 42 00:02:52,463 --> 00:02:53,965 "Showbiz is awful. My parents were abusive." 43 00:02:54,048 --> 00:02:56,050 He'll say he's changed. That he's not that guy anymore. 44 00:02:56,134 --> 00:02:59,095 - Yeah. You sound real done with it. - I am! I'm just saying. 45 00:02:59,179 --> 00:03:01,472 They'll make you feel bad for him, without it being too sad... 46 00:03:01,556 --> 00:03:05,602 {\an8}...because too sad is a bring-down. We wanna shoot for pensive. 47 00:03:05,685 --> 00:03:07,395 And this will keep you from talking with your hands, 48 00:03:07,478 --> 00:03:09,189 which can be construed as aggressive. 49 00:03:09,272 --> 00:03:13,401 And whatever you do, don't get defensive! Don't deny anything, and don't argue. 50 00:03:13,484 --> 00:03:15,153 {\an8}... Give me a smile. 51 00:03:15,236 --> 00:03:16,321 {\an8}Uh... 52 00:03:16,404 --> 00:03:19,282 {\an8}Whoa! Am I my third favorite Bruce Springsteen song 53 00:03:19,365 --> 00:03:22,410 {\an8}because I was not "Born in the USA" nor am I "Tougher Than the Rest," 54 00:03:22,493 --> 00:03:25,663 but I am "Blinded By the Light"! Nice smile, buddy. 55 00:03:25,747 --> 00:03:27,040 Do you need to be here right now? 56 00:03:27,123 --> 00:03:30,501 {\an8}Since your interview is leading into the season finale of "Birthday Dad," 57 00:03:30,585 --> 00:03:34,422 {\an8}I wanted to officially welcome you to the MBN Thursday Night family. 58 00:03:34,505 --> 00:03:35,506 Thank you. 59 00:03:35,590 --> 00:03:37,550 {\an8}And to ask if it wouldn't be too much trouble for you 60 00:03:37,634 --> 00:03:39,969 {\an8}to shout out "Birthday Dad" during your interview? 61 00:03:40,053 --> 00:03:42,222 {\an8}-Why would I... - But only if the interview is going well. 62 00:03:42,305 --> 00:03:46,184 {\an8}If the interview is going poorly, please do not bring up "Birthday Dad." 63 00:03:46,267 --> 00:03:48,603 Hey, Princess Carolyn, I... Oh. BoJack. 64 00:03:48,686 --> 00:03:50,438 - Getting ready for the interview? - Yeah. 65 00:03:50,521 --> 00:03:55,068 {\an8}Oh! You've got your work cut out for you, because people hate you right now. 66 00:03:55,151 --> 00:03:57,779 {\an8}-I'm aware, thank you. - That story... Wow. 67 00:03:57,862 --> 00:03:59,072 {\an8}Really well-written, huh? 68 00:03:59,155 --> 00:04:02,200 {\an8}Yeah, the power of the prose was not the first thing I noticed. 69 00:04:02,283 --> 00:04:03,451 {\an8}Haunting. 70 00:04:04,953 --> 00:04:06,246 Anyway, Princess Carolyn, 71 00:04:06,329 --> 00:04:09,165 is it cool if I take tomorrow night off for a date with Maude? 72 00:04:09,249 --> 00:04:12,418 Todd, I keep hearing about this new girlfriend of yours. 73 00:04:12,502 --> 00:04:13,336 When do I meet her? 74 00:04:13,419 --> 00:04:16,047 You can probably take this part of the conversation elsewhere. 75 00:04:16,130 --> 00:04:16,965 Right this way. 76 00:04:17,048 --> 00:04:19,092 We should go on a double date with you and Pickles! 77 00:04:19,175 --> 00:04:21,844 Pickles and I are putting our relaysh on a brief hiate at the mo, 78 00:04:21,928 --> 00:04:23,638 but as soon as she returns from her work trip... 79 00:04:23,721 --> 00:04:24,555 Uh, oh! 80 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:30,103 Excuse me, I'm receiving a text message and it appears we have broken up forever. 81 00:04:31,020 --> 00:04:34,148 - You're gonna be great. - Yeah. Where are we doing this? 82 00:04:34,232 --> 00:04:36,484 I got them to take the "Philbert" set out of storage. 83 00:04:36,567 --> 00:04:37,402 Why? 84 00:04:37,485 --> 00:04:39,904 Because we want the intimacy and vulnerability of your home. 85 00:04:39,988 --> 00:04:42,991 You're saying, "This is me. No more lies." 86 00:04:43,074 --> 00:04:45,076 But since we're pre-taping it in the afternoon, 87 00:04:45,159 --> 00:04:47,245 we're using the set to make it look like it's nighttime. 88 00:04:47,328 --> 00:04:48,162 Makes sense. 89 00:04:52,250 --> 00:04:55,920 I'm here with BoJack Horseman in his actual house. 90 00:04:56,004 --> 00:05:00,174 BoJack, a story came out this morning about the last days of Sarah Lynn. 91 00:05:00,258 --> 00:05:01,843 How did it make you feel? 92 00:05:01,926 --> 00:05:05,138 Honestly? I felt relieved that now I can stop lying. 93 00:05:08,433 --> 00:05:11,477 - Are the allegations in the story true? - They are. 94 00:05:11,561 --> 00:05:14,522 Sarah Lynn was nine months sober. I invited her on a bender. 95 00:05:14,605 --> 00:05:17,817 We spiraled together for a little over a month and then she overdosed. 96 00:05:17,900 --> 00:05:19,902 On heroin you purchased for her? 97 00:05:19,986 --> 00:05:22,697 - Well, I didn't purchase it for her... - There's no need to get defensive. 98 00:05:22,780 --> 00:05:23,990 I'm just trying to be accurate. 99 00:05:24,073 --> 00:05:26,451 I-I didn't purchase it at all. I just had it. 100 00:05:26,534 --> 00:05:28,703 You just had heroin? Lying around. 101 00:05:28,786 --> 00:05:30,038 No, no, no, no, not lying around. 102 00:05:30,121 --> 00:05:32,332 You're making it sound like I had extra heroin, 103 00:05:32,415 --> 00:05:34,125 because I do so much heroin. 104 00:05:34,208 --> 00:05:37,295 I had that heroin because I wasn't doing heroin. 105 00:05:37,378 --> 00:05:39,130 So, I had it. You understand? 106 00:05:39,213 --> 00:05:42,508 In your original statement to the police, you said she called you, 107 00:05:42,592 --> 00:05:46,095 you came to the planetarium and found her. That was a lie. 108 00:05:46,763 --> 00:05:47,597 Yes. 109 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,600 Would you say Sarah Lynn dying was your rock bottom? 110 00:05:50,683 --> 00:05:52,602 I don't believe in rock bottoms. 111 00:05:52,685 --> 00:05:55,855 I've had a lot of what I thought were rock bottoms only to discover 112 00:05:55,938 --> 00:05:59,650 - another rockier bottom underneath. - That sounds dangerous. 113 00:05:59,734 --> 00:06:03,237 Eventually, I decided to stop waiting for something to change me. 114 00:06:03,321 --> 00:06:06,074 I had to make the change myself. And that's why I went to rehab. 115 00:06:06,157 --> 00:06:08,284 And I'm very proud to be one year sober next month. 116 00:06:08,368 --> 00:06:09,911 So, if I'm understanding you correctly, 117 00:06:09,994 --> 00:06:12,914 Sarah Lynn dying was part of that decision? 118 00:06:12,997 --> 00:06:17,251 Uh, it was part of it, yes. Uh, I've made a lot of mistakes. 119 00:06:17,335 --> 00:06:19,504 Can you share some of those other mistakes? 120 00:06:19,587 --> 00:06:22,590 I... I don't think that it would be fair to the people 121 00:06:22,673 --> 00:06:26,260 who were affected by those mistakes, all of whom I've apologized to in private. 122 00:06:26,344 --> 00:06:27,345 Now that you're sober, 123 00:06:27,428 --> 00:06:29,555 do you think you'll stop making these mistakes? 124 00:06:29,639 --> 00:06:31,224 I do. It's been a lot of work, 125 00:06:31,307 --> 00:06:34,811 but I look back at that other BoJack and I think, "Who is that?" 126 00:06:34,894 --> 00:06:36,312 And who was he? 127 00:06:37,563 --> 00:06:38,940 I came from a broken home, 128 00:06:39,023 --> 00:06:41,943 and I used to feel like my whole life was an acting job. 129 00:06:42,026 --> 00:06:44,779 Just doing an impression of the people I saw on television, 130 00:06:44,862 --> 00:06:49,450 which was just the projection of a bunch of equally screwed-up writers and actors. 131 00:06:49,534 --> 00:06:53,371 I felt like a Xerox of a Xerox of a person, you know what I mean? 132 00:06:53,621 --> 00:06:57,667 - But not anymore? - No. Now I feel like me. 133 00:06:57,750 --> 00:06:58,835 It must have been difficult 134 00:06:58,918 --> 00:07:01,587 to see those same patterns repeat themselves with Sarah Lynn. 135 00:07:01,712 --> 00:07:04,340 I think that's why her death was so scary for me, 136 00:07:04,424 --> 00:07:10,012 why I didn't wanna confront it, because she reminded me of myself. 137 00:07:10,096 --> 00:07:12,723 Some have accused Sarah Lynn's mother of exploiting her death. 138 00:07:12,807 --> 00:07:16,018 When you hear "All Twerk and No Play" in a Geico commercial, 139 00:07:16,102 --> 00:07:19,981 or see Sarah Lynn's face on a billboard with the slogan "I'd die for a Pepsi," 140 00:07:20,064 --> 00:07:23,651 - how does that make you feel? - Sad. Angry. 141 00:07:23,734 --> 00:07:25,361 Honestly, it feels like that's what killed her. 142 00:07:25,445 --> 00:07:26,779 Not the heroin? 143 00:07:26,904 --> 00:07:29,115 No, you're right. It was mostly the heroin. 144 00:07:29,198 --> 00:07:32,368 If you could talk to her mother now, what would you say to her? 145 00:07:32,452 --> 00:07:36,497 I would say... I wish you could know... 146 00:07:38,833 --> 00:07:40,710 how sorry I am. 147 00:07:44,255 --> 00:07:47,508 - Am I crazy or did I nail that? - It was good. 148 00:07:47,592 --> 00:07:49,760 Oh, man, when she brought up Sarah Lynn's mother? 149 00:07:49,844 --> 00:07:51,888 She was setting me up to throw her under the bus, 150 00:07:51,971 --> 00:07:53,514 but then I said I'm sorry? 151 00:07:53,598 --> 00:07:57,685 I mean, that was a sweet move, yeah? I felt like I could see The Matrix! 152 00:07:57,768 --> 00:07:59,896 You've definitely gotten your 10,000 hours in 153 00:07:59,979 --> 00:08:01,481 when it comes to apologizing. 154 00:08:01,564 --> 00:08:03,733 It was good, right? People are gonna like it? 155 00:08:03,816 --> 00:08:07,778 Yeah, well, we'll find out in three hours when it airs. 156 00:08:10,907 --> 00:08:12,158 And that's why the band Chicago 157 00:08:12,241 --> 00:08:15,036 is not one of the top ten Chicago bands of all time. 158 00:08:15,536 --> 00:08:16,662 Uh-huh. 159 00:08:18,206 --> 00:08:20,666 Hmm, it's okay if you wanna watch. All right? 160 00:08:20,750 --> 00:08:22,126 He's your friend, it's a big deal for him. 161 00:08:22,210 --> 00:08:25,630 - You don't have to be so weird about it. - I'm not being weird. I'm in a good place. 162 00:08:25,713 --> 00:08:28,007 I don't wanna get dragged back into that other stuff. 163 00:08:28,090 --> 00:08:30,468 That's great! But, you know, it is a little weird 164 00:08:30,551 --> 00:08:32,136 that one of your best friends is a huge celebrity 165 00:08:32,220 --> 00:08:35,306 - and you never wanna talk about him. - Roxy's really more my "best" best friend. 166 00:08:35,389 --> 00:08:36,807 But you never talk about Roxy either! 167 00:08:36,891 --> 00:08:39,477 I don't understand what her job is and it's too late for me to ask. 168 00:08:39,560 --> 00:08:41,562 And you were also married to a huge celebrity. 169 00:08:41,646 --> 00:08:42,855 And you never talk about him either. 170 00:08:42,939 --> 00:08:45,274 You don't share your past life with me. You wanna talk about weird? 171 00:08:45,358 --> 00:08:48,319 I've lived here six months and I still haven't met your son. 172 00:08:48,402 --> 00:08:51,948 Okay. But you don't really wanna meet Sonny. 173 00:08:52,031 --> 00:08:53,199 Of course I do! 174 00:08:53,282 --> 00:08:54,784 All right, cool. Let's get dinner tomorrow. 175 00:08:54,867 --> 00:08:56,118 "Tomorrow" tomorrow? 176 00:09:12,385 --> 00:09:13,427 Huh. 177 00:09:20,268 --> 00:09:21,811 I saw your interview, BoJack. 178 00:09:21,894 --> 00:09:25,064 As a recovering addict myself, I was spellbound! 179 00:09:25,147 --> 00:09:26,524 Wow. I had no idea. 180 00:09:26,607 --> 00:09:29,610 And I see no reason why you shouldn't return to Wesleyan. 181 00:09:31,612 --> 00:09:32,780 Uh, small latte? 182 00:09:32,863 --> 00:09:34,574 - My manager told me not to charge you. - What? 183 00:09:34,657 --> 00:09:36,242 He said he watched your interview last night, 184 00:09:36,325 --> 00:09:37,577 then turned off the TV 185 00:09:37,660 --> 00:09:39,787 and went straight to his first AA meeting. 186 00:09:39,870 --> 00:09:40,788 Huh. 187 00:09:40,871 --> 00:09:42,623 No "Birthday Dad." 188 00:09:44,083 --> 00:09:45,626 - So, I nailed it. - You kidding? 189 00:09:45,710 --> 00:09:47,962 - Pinky Penguin, line one. - Pinky! 190 00:09:48,045 --> 00:09:49,088 Princess Carolyn! 191 00:09:49,171 --> 00:09:51,716 You delivered MBN the best ratings we've seen in years! 192 00:09:51,799 --> 00:09:55,136 You just bought us six more months of not having to sell ourselves 193 00:09:55,219 --> 00:09:59,056 to a larger media company that strips us for office furniture. 194 00:10:00,766 --> 00:10:03,185 BoJack and I were just talking about all the buzz. 195 00:10:03,311 --> 00:10:06,022 I wanna strike while the iron is hot and do a part two tonight. 196 00:10:06,147 --> 00:10:07,898 - Part two? - There is no part two. 197 00:10:07,982 --> 00:10:11,819 It's right there in the title, "The Last Days of Sarah Lynn." 198 00:10:11,902 --> 00:10:13,571 Just sit down with Biscuits again 199 00:10:13,654 --> 00:10:17,074 and tell a few more colorful anecdotes from your years partying in Hollywoo. 200 00:10:17,158 --> 00:10:20,745 Then, an encore presentation of the "Birthday Dad" finale. 201 00:10:20,828 --> 00:10:21,662 Makes sense. 202 00:10:21,746 --> 00:10:24,206 We got what we wanted out of this. I don't think we should push it. 203 00:10:24,290 --> 00:10:27,418 We're starting a dialogue. I'm helping people. 204 00:10:27,501 --> 00:10:30,713 Move over, Sad Dog. Make room for Remorse Horse! 205 00:10:30,796 --> 00:10:31,797 That's great BoJack, but... 206 00:10:31,881 --> 00:10:34,675 Listen, I'm ready to move on and go back to Connecticut, 207 00:10:34,759 --> 00:10:37,386 but it does feel good to be part of the conversation again. 208 00:10:37,470 --> 00:10:40,765 And if my openness and candor about addiction is helping people, 209 00:10:40,848 --> 00:10:43,976 then I'm kind of a dick if I don't do another interview, right? 210 00:10:45,436 --> 00:10:47,897 I mean, I wasn't gonna say it. 211 00:10:49,357 --> 00:10:51,484 Thank you so much for inviting us into your home 212 00:10:51,567 --> 00:10:53,653 - for another night of questions. - Are you kidding? 213 00:10:53,736 --> 00:10:56,530 You couldn't keep me away! Because this is my house. 214 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,159 I wanna start with another Sarah Lynn question. 215 00:11:00,242 --> 00:11:02,036 Oh, here we go. 216 00:11:02,119 --> 00:11:04,622 Speaking of addicts, I think you're addicted to Sarah Lynn! 217 00:11:04,705 --> 00:11:07,541 You told the police you weren't with her when she died. 218 00:11:07,625 --> 00:11:09,418 That she called you from the planetarium. 219 00:11:09,502 --> 00:11:10,628 Yes, I lied. 220 00:11:10,753 --> 00:11:13,047 Weren't you afraid the police would check the phone records? 221 00:11:13,130 --> 00:11:16,717 Oh! Well, I wasn't thinking clearly. Guess I'm not a criminal mastermind! 222 00:11:16,801 --> 00:11:18,928 But the police did check the phone records, 223 00:11:19,011 --> 00:11:20,179 and your story checked out. 224 00:11:20,262 --> 00:11:23,474 There was a two-minute phone call made from her phone to your phone, 225 00:11:23,599 --> 00:11:26,435 17 minutes before you called 911. 226 00:11:27,061 --> 00:11:28,979 - Oh? - If you were with her, 227 00:11:29,063 --> 00:11:31,148 - how do you explain the phone call? - I, um... 228 00:11:32,274 --> 00:11:33,609 I called myself. 229 00:11:33,693 --> 00:11:37,446 After I realized what had had happened, I took her phone and I called myself 230 00:11:37,530 --> 00:11:39,490 so I could make it look like she called me. 231 00:11:39,573 --> 00:11:41,325 - Why? - I went into panic mode. 232 00:11:41,409 --> 00:11:42,618 And then what did you do? 233 00:11:42,702 --> 00:11:44,161 I thought we were gonna talk about other stuff. 234 00:11:44,245 --> 00:11:46,831 What did you do after you called your own phone, BoJack? 235 00:11:46,914 --> 00:11:48,833 I went outside to the parking lot. 236 00:11:48,916 --> 00:11:52,128 And you just waited there for 17 minutes? 237 00:11:52,211 --> 00:11:54,255 Why are you asking about this? 238 00:11:57,091 --> 00:11:59,427 Biscuits Braxby. Paige Sinclair. You've been had. 239 00:11:59,510 --> 00:12:01,595 A pleasure to meet you. Had by who? 240 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:02,513 The pleasure is mine, 241 00:12:02,596 --> 00:12:04,432 the pronoun is whom, and the whom is the horse. 242 00:12:04,515 --> 00:12:07,560 BoJack? I got him to spill his guts about the worst moment of his life 243 00:12:07,643 --> 00:12:09,937 {\an8}on national television for huge ratings. 244 00:12:10,020 --> 00:12:12,189 Your disgusting display of soft-pedaling sycophancy 245 00:12:12,273 --> 00:12:14,608 made me wanna quit the journalism business altogether, 246 00:12:14,692 --> 00:12:16,152 two days prior to when I get married 247 00:12:16,235 --> 00:12:17,945 and quit the journalism business altogether. 248 00:12:18,028 --> 00:12:20,614 But the Biscuits Braxby brand is keeping things light. 249 00:12:20,698 --> 00:12:22,825 Celebs come on my show because I make 'em look good. 250 00:12:22,908 --> 00:12:24,618 That access keeps me relevant. 251 00:12:24,702 --> 00:12:26,203 But to what benefit is your relevance 252 00:12:26,287 --> 00:12:28,497 if it's squandered in the service of public relations? 253 00:12:28,581 --> 00:12:29,665 With the advent of social media, 254 00:12:29,749 --> 00:12:31,709 celebs don't need you to make them look good. 255 00:12:31,792 --> 00:12:34,879 And if you don't alter your strategy soon, you'll have no career left to save. 256 00:12:34,962 --> 00:12:37,006 Face it, chinchilla, you're all wet. 257 00:12:37,089 --> 00:12:38,132 Well, I... 258 00:12:38,299 --> 00:12:42,636 Ugh! Even if I wanted to do a hard-hitting interview, what would I say? 259 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,722 I've a few ideas... 260 00:12:46,223 --> 00:12:48,309 - You keep looking over to your manager. - Well, I... 261 00:12:48,392 --> 00:12:50,728 - Can we talk about your relationship? - Princess Carolyn? 262 00:12:50,811 --> 00:12:53,355 - You dated her for seven years? - Yes, and look! She's alive. 263 00:12:53,439 --> 00:12:54,815 Did it ever get complicated, 264 00:12:54,899 --> 00:12:57,943 working with her while maintaining a sexual relationship? 265 00:12:58,027 --> 00:12:59,111 Well, she's always been good 266 00:12:59,195 --> 00:13:01,405 at keeping her personal and professional lives separate. 267 00:13:01,489 --> 00:13:03,616 - Quite an accomplished woman. - You said it. 268 00:13:03,699 --> 00:13:05,618 She was an agent's assistant when I met her 269 00:13:05,701 --> 00:13:09,455 and now she's running her own company. Plus, she's a great mom. 270 00:13:09,538 --> 00:13:11,582 Oh, fish! Mom! 271 00:13:11,665 --> 00:13:14,585 - I forgot about Todd's date! - I can watch Ruthie for a few hours. 272 00:13:14,668 --> 00:13:15,628 Thank you. 273 00:13:15,711 --> 00:13:18,130 What can you tell me about Marcy Jerominek? 274 00:13:18,214 --> 00:13:19,882 - Who? - In the '90s, you had a fan club... 275 00:13:19,965 --> 00:13:22,301 - How do you know all this? - Do you know where I'm going here? 276 00:13:22,384 --> 00:13:25,471 Marcy. Yes. She was the president of my fan club. 277 00:13:25,554 --> 00:13:26,847 You slept with her. 278 00:13:26,931 --> 00:13:30,768 We had a lovely evening together. We both got something out of it, and... 279 00:13:30,851 --> 00:13:33,312 Did you take a high school girl to her prom? 280 00:13:33,395 --> 00:13:35,397 - That was a family friend. - Did you help a teen mom 281 00:13:35,481 --> 00:13:38,359 sneak out of rehab and take her to a high school party? 282 00:13:38,442 --> 00:13:40,319 I didn't take her. We went together. 283 00:13:40,402 --> 00:13:41,695 Is it true you once dated a woman 284 00:13:41,779 --> 00:13:43,697 who'd just woken up from a 30-year coma? 285 00:13:43,781 --> 00:13:46,867 - Were you attracted to her naiveté, too? - What does all this have to with... 286 00:13:46,951 --> 00:13:48,744 You had sex with the president of your fan club. 287 00:13:48,869 --> 00:13:52,331 You had sex with your agent's assistant. You party with underage girls. 288 00:13:52,414 --> 00:13:54,500 - You don't see a pattern here? - It's not a pattern. 289 00:13:54,583 --> 00:13:57,253 - Do you enjoy having power over women? - I don't even know what that means. 290 00:13:57,336 --> 00:13:59,630 You don't know what it means to have power over women? 291 00:13:59,713 --> 00:14:02,967 I don't have power over anyone. I barely have power over myself. 292 00:14:03,050 --> 00:14:07,137 But you do have power over people. And again and again, you abuse that power. 293 00:14:07,221 --> 00:14:09,974 All these women that you mentioned, I never forced myself... 294 00:14:10,057 --> 00:14:12,852 Not through force, but you understand the power differential. 295 00:14:12,977 --> 00:14:16,105 So, I can't be with any woman I might have power over? 296 00:14:16,188 --> 00:14:18,566 - Who does that leave me with? - I'm just pointing out a series of... 297 00:14:18,649 --> 00:14:21,360 You think everything is this nefarious scheme. 298 00:14:21,443 --> 00:14:23,404 Most of the bad shit that happens in this world 299 00:14:23,487 --> 00:14:25,698 isn't because of wicked plots and machinations. 300 00:14:25,781 --> 00:14:28,576 It's just because we're all a bunch of stupid, hungry, 301 00:14:28,659 --> 00:14:30,744 horny little goons just grabbing at shit, 302 00:14:30,828 --> 00:14:33,539 hoping it'll press that little button in our brain that says, 303 00:14:33,622 --> 00:14:37,626 "Okay, you're happy now." That's not an "abuse of power." 304 00:14:37,751 --> 00:14:41,755 Do you really believe you didn't have the power in all of those relationships? 305 00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:44,300 I... I am an addict. 306 00:14:44,383 --> 00:14:47,595 One of the first things that I had to accept was my own powerlessness. 307 00:14:47,678 --> 00:14:49,430 - But that's... - I understand what I did was wrong. 308 00:14:49,513 --> 00:14:51,807 I'm not denying that. But you're trying to paint this picture. 309 00:14:51,891 --> 00:14:54,393 You're making it out like I'm a bad guy, and I'm not. 310 00:14:54,476 --> 00:14:56,145 I'm not that guy you're saying I am. 311 00:14:56,228 --> 00:14:58,564 - So, back to Sarah Lynn... - No. Why? 312 00:14:58,647 --> 00:14:59,690 You gave her the heroin... 313 00:14:59,773 --> 00:15:02,192 I already told you, yes. How many times can I say it? 314 00:15:02,276 --> 00:15:04,987 Breaking news! The thing I told you yesterday is still true. 315 00:15:05,070 --> 00:15:07,197 - Did you ever give Sarah Lynn alcohol? - What? 316 00:15:07,281 --> 00:15:11,869 The first time Sarah Lynn ever got drunk, she was a child, and it was vodka, right? 317 00:15:11,952 --> 00:15:13,662 How... how do you know about that? 318 00:15:13,746 --> 00:15:16,707 You were bringing vodka to the set of "Horsin' Around." 319 00:15:16,790 --> 00:15:20,336 Who told you all this stuff? Did Sharona tell you that? 320 00:15:23,422 --> 00:15:25,716 Doctor Champ, thank you for returning my call. 321 00:15:25,799 --> 00:15:27,051 I didn't wanna say anything, 322 00:15:27,134 --> 00:15:29,470 but just watching BoJack in that interview, 323 00:15:29,553 --> 00:15:31,513 talking like he's a victim in all this. 324 00:15:31,597 --> 00:15:34,600 If the world only knew the things I know... 325 00:15:34,683 --> 00:15:36,352 I understand as a therapist, 326 00:15:36,435 --> 00:15:39,396 you're not at liberty to divulge what your client told you in confidence. 327 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,608 But I'm not a therapist. I'm a therapy horse. 328 00:15:42,691 --> 00:15:44,401 And I can tell you everything. 329 00:15:44,485 --> 00:15:45,361 Oh. 330 00:15:45,569 --> 00:15:48,739 Because Sharona was a drunk, too, so you can't trust a thing she says. 331 00:15:48,822 --> 00:15:52,368 Obviously, she has a vendetta against me. Besides, I already apologized to her. 332 00:15:52,451 --> 00:15:53,452 Apologized for what? 333 00:15:54,161 --> 00:15:56,330 Okay, when you put it all together, it looks bad. 334 00:15:56,413 --> 00:15:59,583 Do you see any connection between those other women and Sarah Lynn? 335 00:15:59,667 --> 00:16:02,544 There's no connection between anyone, that's what I keep saying! 336 00:16:02,628 --> 00:16:04,880 Sarah Lynn wasn't like those other girls. 337 00:16:05,047 --> 00:16:08,217 I loved Sarah Lynn. She was like a daughter to me. 338 00:16:08,300 --> 00:16:11,053 I just keep seeing this story of you taking young women... 339 00:16:11,136 --> 00:16:12,012 - No. - Grooming them... 340 00:16:12,096 --> 00:16:13,889 I didn't groom anyone, okay? 341 00:16:14,014 --> 00:16:15,557 It's not like I got Sarah Lynn drunk 342 00:16:15,641 --> 00:16:17,267 for the purpose of taking advantage of her. 343 00:16:17,351 --> 00:16:20,229 She was ten! I didn't even have sex with her until she was 30! 344 00:16:20,312 --> 00:16:22,231 - I'm sorry, what? - No. I just mean that... 345 00:16:22,314 --> 00:16:25,901 - Did you say you had sex with her? - That was later. She was an adult. 346 00:16:25,985 --> 00:16:28,779 And we were both so drunk and high, I didn't... 347 00:16:28,862 --> 00:16:30,155 We didn't know what we were doing. 348 00:16:30,239 --> 00:16:31,949 We were addicts, and the thing about addicts... 349 00:16:32,199 --> 00:16:35,160 - This was during your bender? - Yeah. No! A different bender. 350 00:16:35,244 --> 00:16:38,080 I took her to rehab, by the way! I tried to get her help. 351 00:16:38,163 --> 00:16:40,749 I just keep thinking about those 17 minutes. 352 00:16:40,833 --> 00:16:44,044 You waiting in the parking lot after she died. 353 00:16:44,128 --> 00:16:47,339 But she wasn't actually dead yet. She died in the hospital. 354 00:16:47,423 --> 00:16:49,925 - Right, but at the time, I didn't... - Ever wonder what would've happened 355 00:16:50,009 --> 00:16:52,928 if you didn't take those 17 minutes? Do you think she might still... 356 00:16:53,012 --> 00:16:55,723 No! I... Look, obviously when I did all that stuff, I wasn't... 357 00:16:55,848 --> 00:16:59,560 So to recap, you gave Sarah Lynn alcohol when she was a child. 358 00:16:59,643 --> 00:17:00,978 She then became an addict. 359 00:17:01,061 --> 00:17:02,688 Come on, there was a lot of stuff in between... 360 00:17:02,771 --> 00:17:04,940 I'm talking now. You're not talking. 361 00:17:05,024 --> 00:17:07,317 When she was intoxicated, you had sex with her, 362 00:17:07,401 --> 00:17:10,487 and when she was sober, you gave her the heroin that killed her. 363 00:17:10,571 --> 00:17:12,448 Then in an effort to cover for yourself, 364 00:17:12,531 --> 00:17:16,285 you waited to call the paramedics that might have saved her life. 365 00:17:17,202 --> 00:17:20,414 And you don't think you have any power over women. 366 00:17:24,668 --> 00:17:26,420 So, it didn't go great. 367 00:17:26,503 --> 00:17:28,213 The gross part is she doesn't even care. 368 00:17:28,297 --> 00:17:31,800 This is just a ratings win she can use as leverage for her next big paycheck. 369 00:17:31,884 --> 00:17:33,218 - Maybe. - She was all over the place. 370 00:17:33,302 --> 00:17:35,721 I think people are gonna see that she was just out to get me. 371 00:17:35,804 --> 00:17:38,557 - People are gonna see that, right? - I guess we'll find out tonight. 372 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,309 Okay, maybe she had some good points, 373 00:17:40,392 --> 00:17:42,978 but she completely undermined herself with, like... 374 00:17:43,062 --> 00:17:45,481 I mean, we dated for like seven years. 375 00:17:45,564 --> 00:17:47,399 Do you think that I took advantage of you? 376 00:17:47,483 --> 00:17:50,277 - I'm here, aren't I? - And she kept bringing it back to women... 377 00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:53,238 These "women I hurt" because that's what's hip now, right? 378 00:17:53,322 --> 00:17:56,325 Hurting women? But I have also hurt a lot of men! 379 00:17:56,408 --> 00:18:00,370 I told you to do just the one interview and go back to Connecticut. 380 00:18:00,788 --> 00:18:04,333 But it's gonna be okay, right? 381 00:18:04,416 --> 00:18:06,418 You wanna grab some tacos? What do you think? 382 00:18:06,502 --> 00:18:09,004 I think you have three hours... 383 00:18:09,088 --> 00:18:12,216 ...before this interview airs and your world changes completely. 384 00:18:12,299 --> 00:18:15,010 You should think about how you wanna spend that time. 385 00:18:15,094 --> 00:18:17,054 I'm going home to my daughter. 386 00:18:28,357 --> 00:18:31,568 - Sonny! It's great to finally meet you. - Hey. 387 00:18:31,652 --> 00:18:34,113 - Sonny! Come on! - Good evening, ma'am. 388 00:18:34,196 --> 00:18:35,531 Whoa! 389 00:18:35,614 --> 00:18:36,990 What's this? You made varsity? 390 00:18:37,116 --> 00:18:39,076 Yeah. Coach moved me up for the rest of the season. 391 00:18:39,159 --> 00:18:41,745 - Wow! Congratulations! - That's amazing! Why didn't you tell me? 392 00:18:41,829 --> 00:18:43,163 I wanted to wait for the jacket. 393 00:18:43,247 --> 00:18:44,373 I'm so proud of you, buddy. 394 00:18:44,456 --> 00:18:46,458 We should get Chicago-style cheese fries to celebrate. 395 00:18:46,542 --> 00:18:48,252 - Oh! I'll get... - I'm getting cheese fries. 396 00:18:48,460 --> 00:18:52,005 - So... lacrosse. - What's your deal? 397 00:18:52,089 --> 00:18:54,424 - What? - My dad has a thing for broken women. 398 00:18:54,508 --> 00:18:57,636 Then he nurses them back to health, and when they're better they leave. 399 00:18:57,719 --> 00:18:58,595 You gonna leave him? 400 00:18:58,679 --> 00:19:02,015 - Does your dad think I'm gonna leave him? - It doesn't matter, because eventually 401 00:19:02,099 --> 00:19:04,017 my mom and dad are gonna get back together. 402 00:19:04,101 --> 00:19:04,935 They're still in love. 403 00:19:05,060 --> 00:19:07,771 - What? No, they hate each other. - No, they don't. 404 00:19:07,855 --> 00:19:10,899 - They fight all the time. - Wha... Really? 405 00:19:11,817 --> 00:19:13,527 Oh! Whoa! 406 00:19:13,610 --> 00:19:16,738 - My dad hates my mom? - Uh... No! Of course not! 407 00:19:16,822 --> 00:19:19,658 Then why would you say that? You're so mean! 408 00:19:21,577 --> 00:19:23,453 I was gone for two minutes! 409 00:19:32,671 --> 00:19:33,839 Huh. 410 00:19:49,354 --> 00:19:50,564 Ah. 411 00:19:53,859 --> 00:19:54,860 Is this anything? 412 00:19:54,943 --> 00:19:57,738 "My girlfriend was upset I gave her a CD for Christmas. 413 00:19:57,821 --> 00:20:00,324 But she gave me VD for Hanukkah!" 414 00:20:00,407 --> 00:20:03,493 That's nothing. And possibly anti-Semitic. Hold still. 415 00:20:03,577 --> 00:20:05,579 Ugh! I am so ready to never do stand-up again. 416 00:20:05,662 --> 00:20:07,164 Are you gonna put me on your TV show or what? 417 00:20:07,247 --> 00:20:09,041 I'm telling you, the network loves you. 418 00:20:09,124 --> 00:20:11,835 They just need you to do a screen test. It's basically a formality. 419 00:20:11,919 --> 00:20:14,254 - Screen test? - What, you're too good for it? 420 00:20:14,338 --> 00:20:17,841 No, it's cool! A screen test! Ha! 421 00:20:17,925 --> 00:20:20,344 You wanna hit Alma's after the show? Best tacos in LA. 422 00:20:20,427 --> 00:20:22,346 - I keep telling you it's Neptune's Net. - Ugh! 423 00:20:22,429 --> 00:20:24,556 Malibu is for pretentious, rich douchebags. 424 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:25,599 That's Beverly Hills. 425 00:20:25,682 --> 00:20:28,560 Malibu is for pretentious famous douchebags. 426 00:20:28,644 --> 00:20:31,188 - Hold still so I can finish. - Finish what? 427 00:20:31,271 --> 00:20:34,233 Look, you might never get a star on the Walk of Fame or a wax statue. 428 00:20:34,316 --> 00:20:40,656 But this way you'll always be immortalized and undisturbed in Hollywood forever. 429 00:20:40,739 --> 00:20:42,157 Unless they repaint. 430 00:20:43,492 --> 00:20:46,370 Anybody from out of town? It's a trick question, it's LA. 431 00:20:46,453 --> 00:20:48,247 Everybody's from out of town. 432 00:20:48,330 --> 00:20:50,207 Most of Los Angeles isn't even in Los Angeles. 433 00:20:50,290 --> 00:20:52,584 I mean, Azusa? Excusa? 434 00:20:57,047 --> 00:20:57,881 Oh, my God. 435 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:03,387 - Hey, man. I hated your show. - What? 436 00:21:03,470 --> 00:21:06,056 - "Horsin' Around." Hated it. - Yeah, that's a hell of an opener. 437 00:21:06,139 --> 00:21:07,557 But my baby brother loved it. 438 00:21:07,641 --> 00:21:09,309 I'd be in my bedroom, sulking 439 00:21:09,393 --> 00:21:12,354 and I'd hear him laughing his ass off in the living room. 440 00:21:12,437 --> 00:21:13,730 He had this great laugh. 441 00:21:13,814 --> 00:21:17,484 Drugs took a lot from him, but he still had that laugh. 442 00:21:17,651 --> 00:21:18,986 Right up to the end. 443 00:21:19,778 --> 00:21:23,740 Now anytime I hear anything about that show, I hear my brother's laugh. 444 00:21:24,449 --> 00:21:27,577 - Thanks for that. - Well, shit. You're welcome. 445 00:21:28,161 --> 00:21:29,496 Hey, do you wanna go up? 446 00:21:29,579 --> 00:21:32,499 Oh, man. I... I haven't done stand-up in years. 447 00:21:32,582 --> 00:21:35,460 You're famous. They'll get a kick out of it even if you suck. 448 00:21:35,544 --> 00:21:38,839 I don't think so. Thanks, though. 449 00:21:45,345 --> 00:21:46,638 Oh. 450 00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:51,601 Mm-mm. No. 451 00:21:51,685 --> 00:21:54,187 - Hmm. Oh, what about this show? - Oh, what's it about? 452 00:21:54,271 --> 00:21:55,105 It's really smart. 453 00:21:55,188 --> 00:21:57,733 It's about New Orleans and jazz and Hurricane Katrina 454 00:21:57,816 --> 00:21:59,443 and drugs and John Goodman. 455 00:21:59,526 --> 00:22:01,153 - Sounds exciting. - It's not! 456 00:22:01,236 --> 00:22:04,156 Maude? I heard a man's voice! 457 00:22:04,239 --> 00:22:07,034 - Yeah, Mom, Todd's over! - Is that a burglar? 458 00:22:07,117 --> 00:22:09,328 He's my boyfriend! We're gonna watch TV! 459 00:22:09,411 --> 00:22:11,121 No shows about burglars, though! 460 00:22:11,246 --> 00:22:13,707 - You got it, Mom! - And keep the door open. 461 00:22:13,790 --> 00:22:17,044 - No funny business! - Okay, Mom. 462 00:22:17,711 --> 00:22:19,463 Wanna watch the second part of the BoJack interview? 463 00:22:19,546 --> 00:22:20,881 I don't know. 464 00:22:20,964 --> 00:22:23,925 That guy was my best friend for like five years. 465 00:22:24,009 --> 00:22:26,303 But not because we have anything in common. 466 00:22:26,386 --> 00:22:28,513 I just landed at his house one night. 467 00:22:28,597 --> 00:22:30,724 You ever get tired of living at the mercy of whoever happens 468 00:22:30,807 --> 00:22:32,017 to let you crash on their couch? 469 00:22:32,100 --> 00:22:34,019 - What do you mean? - Why don't you get your own place? 470 00:22:34,102 --> 00:22:36,104 Princess Carolyn doesn't need a live-in nanny anymore. 471 00:22:36,188 --> 00:22:37,481 I think I'd get lonely. 472 00:22:37,564 --> 00:22:40,275 How about this: what if you had your own place, 473 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,735 but you shared it with someone? 474 00:22:41,818 --> 00:22:43,862 - Like a roommate? - Or a girlfriend. 475 00:22:43,987 --> 00:22:47,240 But Maude, you're my girlfriend. 476 00:22:47,324 --> 00:22:48,533 What am I supposed to do? 477 00:22:48,617 --> 00:22:50,911 Get a second girlfriend just to live with? 478 00:22:50,994 --> 00:22:53,830 - No, I... - And by the way, you're one to talk. 479 00:22:53,914 --> 00:22:55,290 - You still live with your mom. - Yeah, I... 480 00:22:55,374 --> 00:22:57,709 - Why don't you get your own place? - Right, that's actually what... 481 00:22:57,793 --> 00:23:00,504 Wait. I just got an incredible idea! 482 00:23:00,587 --> 00:23:02,756 Yeah? Because I just had an incredible idea, too. 483 00:23:02,839 --> 00:23:06,301 Okay, let's both say our ideas at the same time. 484 00:23:06,385 --> 00:23:08,845 One, two, three. 485 00:23:08,929 --> 00:23:11,056 - Salty gum. - Ice cream sandwich flavored ice cream. 486 00:23:11,139 --> 00:23:12,724 Also, we should move in together. 487 00:23:12,808 --> 00:23:14,142 Oh. 488 00:23:16,019 --> 00:23:17,729 You know what they don't tell you about getting sober? 489 00:23:17,813 --> 00:23:21,108 The hardest part, worse than the DTs or the looking back at everything you did 490 00:23:21,191 --> 00:23:22,859 or the constant fear of relapse, 491 00:23:22,943 --> 00:23:26,029 the hardest part is figuring out what the hell to drink 492 00:23:26,113 --> 00:23:27,781 when you order a meal at a nice restaurant. 493 00:23:28,198 --> 00:23:31,118 You expect me to order the bucatini carbonara at Gusto 494 00:23:31,201 --> 00:23:33,662 and then drink, what, an Arnold Palmer? 495 00:23:33,745 --> 00:23:36,748 I'm not even a red wine guy, but come on! "Here's your steak, sir. 496 00:23:36,832 --> 00:23:39,960 Would you like an ice-cold Dr. Pepper to go with that?" I mean... 497 00:23:48,969 --> 00:23:50,137 Are you all right? 498 00:23:50,220 --> 00:23:53,014 Eh... Hmm. 499 00:24:12,117 --> 00:24:14,953 I guess what I'm getting at is I keep hearing you say, 500 00:24:15,036 --> 00:24:17,038 "That's not me. I've changed." 501 00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:19,624 But how can we believe you've stopped this pattern of behavior 502 00:24:19,708 --> 00:24:21,293 if you won't acknowledge this pattern exists? 503 00:24:21,376 --> 00:24:24,004 I don't even know what pattern you're talking about. 504 00:24:24,087 --> 00:24:25,881 I'll try one more time. 505 00:24:25,964 --> 00:24:28,800 Over these last two nights, you've drawn us an outline of a person. 506 00:24:28,925 --> 00:24:33,096 A person who doesn't think about others, a person who puts his own needs first. 507 00:24:33,180 --> 00:24:35,474 And over and over, other people get hurt, 508 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,434 not necessarily because he means to hurt them, 509 00:24:37,517 --> 00:24:39,686 but because he just doesn't care. 510 00:24:39,769 --> 00:24:44,316 This person I'm describing, is it a different person, or is it you? 511 00:24:44,524 --> 00:24:45,775 Oh. 512 00:24:48,653 --> 00:24:50,822 Yeah. It's me.