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{\an8}Shocking revelations today
about BoJack Horseman's involvement
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{\an8}in the overdose of Sarah Lynn,
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{\an8}in an explosive new
"Hollywoo Reporter" exposé.
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{\an8}Is BoJack #canceled?
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{\an8}#Find-out-tonight
when the horse himself sits down...
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On "Braxby Means Business
with Biscuits Braxby,"
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BoJack Horseman opens up
in an exclusive interview.
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For the first time ever,
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we'll hear the real story
of the last days of Sarah Lynn.
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I don't believe it.
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I left shoe leather
in six different states
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and spun the scoop of my career
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all to get sidetracked by a sit-down
with a second-rate celebrity suck-up.
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Relax. Your story's clearly
doing something
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if they're scrambling
to do damage control so fast.
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That's just it, Patience,
my sister and lifelong confidante.
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These schmoozey charlatans will pour syrup
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all over this stack of Shinola
and try to tell you it's pancakes.
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And I'm powerless to prevent it!
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Don't you have enough dirt
for a whole other story?
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You know full well
once I become Baxter's bride,
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I'm trading board rooms for bedrooms,
watches for swatches
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and deadlines for bedtimes.
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Okay, so then get married and forget
about this BoJack story.
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I mean, who cares, right?
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Patience, you cut to the core
like a classic Sinclair.
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I shall miss making mincemeat
of the misdeeds of mischievous miscreants,
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but I must focus on my new mission,
as I transition from miss to missus.
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Why do you talk like that?
We're from Fresno.
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Huh, they're really hyping up
this BoJack interview.
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I gotta admit I'm kinda curious.
You're gonna watch, right?
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No. I can't waste my energy
getting worked up about that guy, Guy.
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I've done enough of that.
Like, years of that.
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- Yeah, but it's not like you can just...
- I need to work on my book.
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These mall-related mysteries
aren't gonna solve themselves.
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Spoken like a very emotionally
healthy woman,
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productive professional writer
and super-cute girlfriend.
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We already know what BoJack's gonna say.
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He'll admit to everything in the story,
but nothing else.
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He'll trot out this sad-sack routine,
everyone will feel bad for him.
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He'll talk about his addictions.
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"Showbiz is awful.
My parents were abusive."
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He'll say he's changed.
That he's not that guy anymore.
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- Yeah. You sound real done with it.
- I am! I'm just saying.
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They'll make you feel bad for him,
without it being too sad...
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{\an8}...because too sad is a bring-down.
We wanna shoot for pensive.
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And this will keep you
from talking with your hands,
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which can be construed as aggressive.
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And whatever you do, don't get defensive!
Don't deny anything, and don't argue.
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{\an8}... Give me a smile.
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{\an8}Uh...
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{\an8}Whoa! Am I my third favorite
Bruce Springsteen song
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{\an8}because I was not "Born in the USA"
nor am I "Tougher Than the Rest,"
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but I am "Blinded By the Light"!
Nice smile, buddy.
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Do you need to be here right now?
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{\an8}Since your interview is leading
into the season finale of "Birthday Dad,"
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{\an8}I wanted to officially welcome you
to the MBN Thursday Night family.
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Thank you.
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{\an8}And to ask if it wouldn't be
too much trouble for you
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{\an8}to shout out "Birthday Dad"
during your interview?
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{\an8}-Why would I...
- But only if the interview is going well.
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{\an8}If the interview is going poorly,
please do not bring up "Birthday Dad."
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Hey, Princess Carolyn, I... Oh. BoJack.
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- Getting ready for the interview?
- Yeah.
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{\an8}Oh! You've got your work cut out for you,
because people hate you right now.
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{\an8}-I'm aware, thank you.
- That story... Wow.
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{\an8}Really well-written, huh?
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{\an8}Yeah, the power of the prose
was not the first thing I noticed.
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{\an8}Haunting.
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Anyway, Princess Carolyn,
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is it cool if I take tomorrow night off
for a date with Maude?
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Todd, I keep hearing about
this new girlfriend of yours.
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When do I meet her?
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You can probably take this part
of the conversation elsewhere.
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Right this way.
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We should go on a double date
with you and Pickles!
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Pickles and I are putting our relaysh
on a brief hiate at the mo,
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but as soon as she returns
from her work trip...
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Uh, oh!
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Excuse me, I'm receiving a text message
and it appears we have broken up forever.
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- You're gonna be great.
- Yeah. Where are we doing this?
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I got them to take the "Philbert" set
out of storage.
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Why?
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Because we want the intimacy
and vulnerability of your home.
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You're saying, "This is me. No more lies."
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But since we're pre-taping it
in the afternoon,
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we're using the set to make it look
like it's nighttime.
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Makes sense.
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I'm here with BoJack Horseman
in his actual house.
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BoJack, a story came out this morning
about the last days of Sarah Lynn.
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How did it make you feel?
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Honestly? I felt relieved
that now I can stop lying.
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- Are the allegations in the story true?
- They are.
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Sarah Lynn was nine months sober.
I invited her on a bender.
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We spiraled together for a little over
a month and then she overdosed.
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On heroin you purchased for her?
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- Well, I didn't purchase it for her...
- There's no need to get defensive.
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I'm just trying to be accurate.
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I-I didn't purchase it at all.
I just had it.
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You just had heroin?
Lying around.
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No, no, no, no, not lying around.
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You're making it sound
like I had extra heroin,
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because I do so much heroin.
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I had that heroin
because I wasn't doing heroin.
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So, I had it. You understand?
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In your original statement to the police,
you said she called you,
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you came to the planetarium and found her.
That was a lie.
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Yes.
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Would you say Sarah Lynn dying
was your rock bottom?
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I don't believe in rock bottoms.
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I've had a lot of what I thought
were rock bottoms only to discover
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- another rockier bottom underneath.
- That sounds dangerous.
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Eventually, I decided to stop waiting
for something to change me.
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I had to make the change myself.
And that's why I went to rehab.
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And I'm very proud to be one year sober
next month.
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So, if I'm understanding you correctly,
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Sarah Lynn dying
was part of that decision?
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Uh, it was part of it, yes.
Uh, I've made a lot of mistakes.
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Can you share some of those
other mistakes?
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I... I don't think
that it would be fair to the people
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who were affected by those mistakes,
all of whom I've apologized to in private.
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Now that you're sober,
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do you think you'll stop
making these mistakes?
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I do. It's been a lot of work,
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but I look back at that other BoJack
and I think, "Who is that?"
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And who was he?
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I came from a broken home,
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and I used to feel like my whole life
was an acting job.
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Just doing an impression of the people
I saw on television,
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which was just the projection of a bunch
of equally screwed-up writers and actors.
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I felt like a Xerox of a Xerox
of a person, you know what I mean?
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- But not anymore?
- No. Now I feel like me.
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It must have been difficult
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to see those same patterns
repeat themselves with Sarah Lynn.
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I think that's why her death
was so scary for me,
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why I didn't wanna confront it,
because she reminded me of myself.
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Some have accused Sarah Lynn's mother
of exploiting her death.
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When you hear "All Twerk and No Play"
in a Geico commercial,
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or see Sarah Lynn's face on a billboard
with the slogan "I'd die for a Pepsi,"
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- how does that make you feel?
- Sad. Angry.
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Honestly, it feels like
that's what killed her.
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Not the heroin?
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No, you're right.
It was mostly the heroin.
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If you could talk to her mother now,
what would you say to her?
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I would say... I wish you could know...
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how sorry I am.
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- Am I crazy or did I nail that?
- It was good.
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Oh, man, when she brought up
Sarah Lynn's mother?
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She was setting me up
to throw her under the bus,
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but then I said I'm sorry?
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I mean, that was a sweet move, yeah?
I felt like I could see The Matrix!
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You've definitely gotten
your 10,000 hours in
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when it comes to apologizing.
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It was good, right?
People are gonna like it?
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Yeah, well, we'll find out in three hours
when it airs.
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And that's why the band Chicago
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is not one of the top ten Chicago bands
of all time.
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Uh-huh.
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Hmm, it's okay
if you wanna watch. All right?
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He's your friend, it's a big deal for him.
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- You don't have to be so weird about it.
- I'm not being weird. I'm in a good place.
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I don't wanna get dragged back
into that other stuff.
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That's great! But, you know,
it is a little weird
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that one of your best friends
is a huge celebrity
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- and you never wanna talk about him.
- Roxy's really more my "best" best friend.
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But you never talk about Roxy either!
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I don't understand what her job is
and it's too late for me to ask.
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And you were also married
to a huge celebrity.
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And you never talk about him either.
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You don't share your past life with me.
You wanna talk about weird?
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I've lived here six months
and I still haven't met your son.
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Okay. But you don't really
wanna meet Sonny.
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Of course I do!
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All right, cool.
Let's get dinner tomorrow.
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"Tomorrow" tomorrow?
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Huh.
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I saw your interview, BoJack.
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As a recovering addict myself,
I was spellbound!
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Wow. I had no idea.
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And I see no reason
why you shouldn't return to Wesleyan.
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Uh, small latte?
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- My manager told me not to charge you.
- What?
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He said he watched
your interview last night,
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then turned off the TV
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and went straight
to his first AA meeting.
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Huh.
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No "Birthday Dad."
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- So, I nailed it.
- You kidding?
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- Pinky Penguin, line one.
- Pinky!
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Princess Carolyn!
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You delivered MBN
the best ratings we've seen in years!
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You just bought us six more months
of not having to sell ourselves
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to a larger media company
that strips us for office furniture.
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BoJack and I
were just talking about all the buzz.
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I wanna strike while the iron is hot
and do a part two tonight.
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- Part two?
- There is no part two.
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It's right there in the title,
"The Last Days of Sarah Lynn."
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Just sit down with Biscuits again
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and tell a few more colorful anecdotes
from your years partying in Hollywoo.
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Then, an encore presentation
of the "Birthday Dad" finale.
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Makes sense.
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We got what we wanted out of this.
I don't think we should push it.
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We're starting a dialogue.
I'm helping people.
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Move over, Sad Dog.
Make room for Remorse Horse!
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That's great BoJack, but...
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Listen, I'm ready to move on
and go back to Connecticut,
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but it does feel good to be part
of the conversation again.
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And if my openness and candor
about addiction is helping people,
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then I'm kind of a dick
if I don't do another interview, right?
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I mean, I wasn't gonna say it.
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Thank you so much for inviting us
into your home
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- for another night of questions.
- Are you kidding?
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You couldn't keep me away!
Because this is my house.
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I wanna start
with another Sarah Lynn question.
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Oh, here we go.
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Speaking of addicts,
I think you're addicted to Sarah Lynn!
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You told the police
you weren't with her when she died.
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That she called you from the planetarium.
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Yes, I lied.
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Weren't you afraid the police would check
the phone records?
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Oh! Well, I wasn't thinking clearly.
Guess I'm not a criminal mastermind!
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But the police did check
the phone records,
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and your story checked out.
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There was a two-minute phone call
made from her phone to your phone,
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17 minutes before you called 911.
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- Oh?
- If you were with her,
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- how do you explain the phone call?
- I, um...
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I called myself.
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After I realized what had had happened,
I took her phone and I called myself
230
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so I could make it look like
she called me.
231
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- Why?
- I went into panic mode.
232
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And then what did you do?
233
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I thought we were gonna talk
about other stuff.
234
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What did you do after you called
your own phone, BoJack?
235
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I went outside to the parking lot.
236
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And you just waited there for 17 minutes?
237
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Why are you asking about this?
238
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Biscuits Braxby.
Paige Sinclair. You've been had.
239
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A pleasure to meet you. Had by who?
240
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The pleasure is mine,
241
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the pronoun is whom,
and the whom is the horse.
242
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BoJack? I got him to spill his guts
about the worst moment of his life
243
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{\an8}on national television for huge ratings.
244
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Your disgusting display
of soft-pedaling sycophancy
245
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made me wanna quit
the journalism business altogether,
246
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two days prior to when I get married
247
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and quit the journalism
business altogether.
248
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But the Biscuits Braxby brand
is keeping things light.
249
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Celebs come on my show
because I make 'em look good.
250
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That access keeps me relevant.
251
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But to what benefit is your relevance
252
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if it's squandered
in the service of public relations?
253
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With the advent of social media,
254
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celebs don't need you
to make them look good.
255
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And if you don't alter your strategy soon,
you'll have no career left to save.
256
00:12:34,962 --> 00:12:37,006
Face it, chinchilla, you're all wet.
257
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Well, I...
258
00:12:38,299 --> 00:12:42,636
Ugh! Even if I wanted to do a hard-hitting
interview, what would I say?
259
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I've a few ideas...
260
00:12:46,223 --> 00:12:48,309
- You keep looking over to your manager.
- Well, I...
261
00:12:48,392 --> 00:12:50,728
- Can we talk about your relationship?
- Princess Carolyn?
262
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- You dated her for seven years?
- Yes, and look! She's alive.
263
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Did it ever get complicated,
264
00:12:54,899 --> 00:12:57,943
working with her while maintaining
a sexual relationship?
265
00:12:58,027 --> 00:12:59,111
Well, she's always been good
266
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at keeping her personal
and professional lives separate.
267
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- Quite an accomplished woman.
- You said it.
268
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She was an agent's assistant
when I met her
269
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and now she's running her own company.
Plus, she's a great mom.
270
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Oh, fish! Mom!
271
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- I forgot about Todd's date!
- I can watch Ruthie for a few hours.
272
00:13:14,668 --> 00:13:15,628
Thank you.
273
00:13:15,711 --> 00:13:18,130
What can you tell me
about Marcy Jerominek?
274
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- Who?
- In the '90s, you had a fan club...
275
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- How do you know all this?
- Do you know where I'm going here?
276
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Marcy. Yes.
She was the president of my fan club.
277
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You slept with her.
278
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We had a lovely evening together.
We both got something out of it, and...
279
00:13:30,851 --> 00:13:33,312
Did you take a high school girl
to her prom?
280
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- That was a family friend.
- Did you help a teen mom
281
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sneak out of rehab
and take her to a high school party?
282
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I didn't take her. We went together.
283
00:13:40,402 --> 00:13:41,695
Is it true you once dated a woman
284
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who'd just woken up
from a 30-year coma?
285
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- Were you attracted to her naiveté, too?
- What does all this have to with...
286
00:13:46,951 --> 00:13:48,744
You had sex with the president
of your fan club.
287
00:13:48,869 --> 00:13:52,331
You had sex with your agent's assistant.
You party with underage girls.
288
00:13:52,414 --> 00:13:54,500
- You don't see a pattern here?
- It's not a pattern.
289
00:13:54,583 --> 00:13:57,253
- Do you enjoy having power over women?
- I don't even know what that means.
290
00:13:57,336 --> 00:13:59,630
You don't know what it means
to have power over women?
291
00:13:59,713 --> 00:14:02,967
I don't have power over anyone.
I barely have power over myself.
292
00:14:03,050 --> 00:14:07,137
But you do have power over people.
And again and again, you abuse that power.
293
00:14:07,221 --> 00:14:09,974
All these women that you mentioned,
I never forced myself...
294
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Not through force,
but you understand the power differential.
295
00:14:12,977 --> 00:14:16,105
So, I can't be with any woman
I might have power over?
296
00:14:16,188 --> 00:14:18,566
- Who does that leave me with?
- I'm just pointing out a series of...
297
00:14:18,649 --> 00:14:21,360
You think everything
is this nefarious scheme.
298
00:14:21,443 --> 00:14:23,404
Most of the bad shit
that happens in this world
299
00:14:23,487 --> 00:14:25,698
isn't because of wicked plots
and machinations.
300
00:14:25,781 --> 00:14:28,576
It's just because we're all
a bunch of stupid, hungry,
301
00:14:28,659 --> 00:14:30,744
horny little goons just grabbing at shit,
302
00:14:30,828 --> 00:14:33,539
hoping it'll press that little button
in our brain that says,
303
00:14:33,622 --> 00:14:37,626
"Okay, you're happy now."
That's not an "abuse of power."
304
00:14:37,751 --> 00:14:41,755
Do you really believe you didn't have
the power in all of those relationships?
305
00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:44,300
I... I am an addict.
306
00:14:44,383 --> 00:14:47,595
One of the first things that I had
to accept was my own powerlessness.
307
00:14:47,678 --> 00:14:49,430
- But that's...
- I understand what I did was wrong.
308
00:14:49,513 --> 00:14:51,807
I'm not denying that.
But you're trying to paint this picture.
309
00:14:51,891 --> 00:14:54,393
You're making it out like I'm a bad guy,
and I'm not.
310
00:14:54,476 --> 00:14:56,145
I'm not that guy you're saying I am.
311
00:14:56,228 --> 00:14:58,564
- So, back to Sarah Lynn...
- No. Why?
312
00:14:58,647 --> 00:14:59,690
You gave her the heroin...
313
00:14:59,773 --> 00:15:02,192
I already told you, yes.
How many times can I say it?
314
00:15:02,276 --> 00:15:04,987
Breaking news! The thing I told you
yesterday is still true.
315
00:15:05,070 --> 00:15:07,197
- Did you ever give Sarah Lynn alcohol?
- What?
316
00:15:07,281 --> 00:15:11,869
The first time Sarah Lynn ever got drunk,
she was a child, and it was vodka, right?
317
00:15:11,952 --> 00:15:13,662
How... how do you know about that?
318
00:15:13,746 --> 00:15:16,707
You were bringing vodka
to the set of "Horsin' Around."
319
00:15:16,790 --> 00:15:20,336
Who told you all this stuff?
Did Sharona tell you that?
320
00:15:23,422 --> 00:15:25,716
Doctor Champ,
thank you for returning my call.
321
00:15:25,799 --> 00:15:27,051
I didn't wanna say anything,
322
00:15:27,134 --> 00:15:29,470
but just watching BoJack
in that interview,
323
00:15:29,553 --> 00:15:31,513
talking like he's a victim in all this.
324
00:15:31,597 --> 00:15:34,600
If the world only knew the things
I know...
325
00:15:34,683 --> 00:15:36,352
I understand as a therapist,
326
00:15:36,435 --> 00:15:39,396
you're not at liberty to divulge
what your client told you in confidence.
327
00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,608
But I'm not a therapist.
I'm a therapy horse.
328
00:15:42,691 --> 00:15:44,401
And I can tell you everything.
329
00:15:44,485 --> 00:15:45,361
Oh.
330
00:15:45,569 --> 00:15:48,739
Because Sharona was a drunk, too,
so you can't trust a thing she says.
331
00:15:48,822 --> 00:15:52,368
Obviously, she has a vendetta against me.
Besides, I already apologized to her.
332
00:15:52,451 --> 00:15:53,452
Apologized for what?
333
00:15:54,161 --> 00:15:56,330
Okay, when you put it all together,
it looks bad.
334
00:15:56,413 --> 00:15:59,583
Do you see any connection between
those other women and Sarah Lynn?
335
00:15:59,667 --> 00:16:02,544
There's no connection between anyone,
that's what I keep saying!
336
00:16:02,628 --> 00:16:04,880
Sarah Lynn wasn't like those other girls.
337
00:16:05,047 --> 00:16:08,217
I loved Sarah Lynn.
She was like a daughter to me.
338
00:16:08,300 --> 00:16:11,053
I just keep seeing this story of you
taking young women...
339
00:16:11,136 --> 00:16:12,012
- No.
- Grooming them...
340
00:16:12,096 --> 00:16:13,889
I didn't groom anyone, okay?
341
00:16:14,014 --> 00:16:15,557
It's not like I got Sarah Lynn drunk
342
00:16:15,641 --> 00:16:17,267
for the purpose
of taking advantage of her.
343
00:16:17,351 --> 00:16:20,229
She was ten! I didn't even have sex
with her until she was 30!
344
00:16:20,312 --> 00:16:22,231
- I'm sorry, what?
- No. I just mean that...
345
00:16:22,314 --> 00:16:25,901
- Did you say you had sex with her?
- That was later. She was an adult.
346
00:16:25,985 --> 00:16:28,779
And we were both so drunk and high,
I didn't...
347
00:16:28,862 --> 00:16:30,155
We didn't know what we were doing.
348
00:16:30,239 --> 00:16:31,949
We were addicts,
and the thing about addicts...
349
00:16:32,199 --> 00:16:35,160
- This was during your bender?
- Yeah. No! A different bender.
350
00:16:35,244 --> 00:16:38,080
I took her to rehab, by the way!
I tried to get her help.
351
00:16:38,163 --> 00:16:40,749
I just keep thinking
about those 17 minutes.
352
00:16:40,833 --> 00:16:44,044
You waiting in the parking lot
after she died.
353
00:16:44,128 --> 00:16:47,339
But she wasn't actually dead yet.
She died in the hospital.
354
00:16:47,423 --> 00:16:49,925
- Right, but at the time, I didn't...
- Ever wonder what would've happened
355
00:16:50,009 --> 00:16:52,928
if you didn't take those 17 minutes?
Do you think she might still...
356
00:16:53,012 --> 00:16:55,723
No! I... Look, obviously
when I did all that stuff, I wasn't...
357
00:16:55,848 --> 00:16:59,560
So to recap, you gave Sarah Lynn alcohol
when she was a child.
358
00:16:59,643 --> 00:17:00,978
She then became an addict.
359
00:17:01,061 --> 00:17:02,688
Come on, there was a lot of stuff
in between...
360
00:17:02,771 --> 00:17:04,940
I'm talking now. You're not talking.
361
00:17:05,024 --> 00:17:07,317
When she was intoxicated,
you had sex with her,
362
00:17:07,401 --> 00:17:10,487
and when she was sober,
you gave her the heroin that killed her.
363
00:17:10,571 --> 00:17:12,448
Then in an effort to cover for yourself,
364
00:17:12,531 --> 00:17:16,285
you waited to call the paramedics
that might have saved her life.
365
00:17:17,202 --> 00:17:20,414
And you don't think
you have any power over women.
366
00:17:24,668 --> 00:17:26,420
So, it didn't go great.
367
00:17:26,503 --> 00:17:28,213
The gross part is she doesn't even care.
368
00:17:28,297 --> 00:17:31,800
This is just a ratings win she can use
as leverage for her next big paycheck.
369
00:17:31,884 --> 00:17:33,218
- Maybe.
- She was all over the place.
370
00:17:33,302 --> 00:17:35,721
I think people are gonna see
that she was just out to get me.
371
00:17:35,804 --> 00:17:38,557
- People are gonna see that, right?
- I guess we'll find out tonight.
372
00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,309
Okay, maybe she had some good points,
373
00:17:40,392 --> 00:17:42,978
but she completely
undermined herself with, like...
374
00:17:43,062 --> 00:17:45,481
I mean, we dated for like seven years.
375
00:17:45,564 --> 00:17:47,399
Do you think that I took advantage of you?
376
00:17:47,483 --> 00:17:50,277
- I'm here, aren't I?
- And she kept bringing it back to women...
377
00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:53,238
These "women I hurt"
because that's what's hip now, right?
378
00:17:53,322 --> 00:17:56,325
Hurting women?
But I have also hurt a lot of men!
379
00:17:56,408 --> 00:18:00,370
I told you to do just the one interview
and go back to Connecticut.
380
00:18:00,788 --> 00:18:04,333
But it's gonna be okay, right?
381
00:18:04,416 --> 00:18:06,418
You wanna grab some tacos?
What do you think?
382
00:18:06,502 --> 00:18:09,004
I think you have three hours...
383
00:18:09,088 --> 00:18:12,216
...before this interview airs
and your world changes completely.
384
00:18:12,299 --> 00:18:15,010
You should think about
how you wanna spend that time.
385
00:18:15,094 --> 00:18:17,054
I'm going home to my daughter.
386
00:18:28,357 --> 00:18:31,568
- Sonny! It's great to finally meet you.
- Hey.
387
00:18:31,652 --> 00:18:34,113
- Sonny! Come on!
- Good evening, ma'am.
388
00:18:34,196 --> 00:18:35,531
Whoa!
389
00:18:35,614 --> 00:18:36,990
What's this? You made varsity?
390
00:18:37,116 --> 00:18:39,076
Yeah. Coach moved me up
for the rest of the season.
391
00:18:39,159 --> 00:18:41,745
- Wow! Congratulations!
- That's amazing! Why didn't you tell me?
392
00:18:41,829 --> 00:18:43,163
I wanted to wait for the jacket.
393
00:18:43,247 --> 00:18:44,373
I'm so proud of you, buddy.
394
00:18:44,456 --> 00:18:46,458
We should get Chicago-style cheese fries
to celebrate.
395
00:18:46,542 --> 00:18:48,252
- Oh! I'll get...
- I'm getting cheese fries.
396
00:18:48,460 --> 00:18:52,005
- So... lacrosse.
- What's your deal?
397
00:18:52,089 --> 00:18:54,424
- What?
- My dad has a thing for broken women.
398
00:18:54,508 --> 00:18:57,636
Then he nurses them back to health,
and when they're better they leave.
399
00:18:57,719 --> 00:18:58,595
You gonna leave him?
400
00:18:58,679 --> 00:19:02,015
- Does your dad think I'm gonna leave him?
- It doesn't matter, because eventually
401
00:19:02,099 --> 00:19:04,017
my mom and dad
are gonna get back together.
402
00:19:04,101 --> 00:19:04,935
They're still in love.
403
00:19:05,060 --> 00:19:07,771
- What? No, they hate each other.
- No, they don't.
404
00:19:07,855 --> 00:19:10,899
- They fight all the time.
- Wha... Really?
405
00:19:11,817 --> 00:19:13,527
Oh! Whoa!
406
00:19:13,610 --> 00:19:16,738
- My dad hates my mom?
- Uh... No! Of course not!
407
00:19:16,822 --> 00:19:19,658
Then why would you say that?
You're so mean!
408
00:19:21,577 --> 00:19:23,453
I was gone for two minutes!
409
00:19:32,671 --> 00:19:33,839
Huh.
410
00:19:49,354 --> 00:19:50,564
Ah.
411
00:19:53,859 --> 00:19:54,860
Is this anything?
412
00:19:54,943 --> 00:19:57,738
"My girlfriend was upset
I gave her a CD for Christmas.
413
00:19:57,821 --> 00:20:00,324
But she gave me VD for Hanukkah!"
414
00:20:00,407 --> 00:20:03,493
That's nothing.
And possibly anti-Semitic. Hold still.
415
00:20:03,577 --> 00:20:05,579
Ugh! I am so ready
to never do stand-up again.
416
00:20:05,662 --> 00:20:07,164
Are you gonna put me
on your TV show or what?
417
00:20:07,247 --> 00:20:09,041
I'm telling you, the network loves you.
418
00:20:09,124 --> 00:20:11,835
They just need you to do a screen test.
It's basically a formality.
419
00:20:11,919 --> 00:20:14,254
- Screen test?
- What, you're too good for it?
420
00:20:14,338 --> 00:20:17,841
No, it's cool! A screen test! Ha!
421
00:20:17,925 --> 00:20:20,344
You wanna hit Alma's after the show?
Best tacos in LA.
422
00:20:20,427 --> 00:20:22,346
- I keep telling you it's Neptune's Net.
- Ugh!
423
00:20:22,429 --> 00:20:24,556
Malibu is for pretentious,
rich douchebags.
424
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:25,599
That's Beverly Hills.
425
00:20:25,682 --> 00:20:28,560
Malibu is for pretentious
famous douchebags.
426
00:20:28,644 --> 00:20:31,188
- Hold still so I can finish.
- Finish what?
427
00:20:31,271 --> 00:20:34,233
Look, you might never get a star
on the Walk of Fame or a wax statue.
428
00:20:34,316 --> 00:20:40,656
But this way you'll always be immortalized
and undisturbed in Hollywood forever.
429
00:20:40,739 --> 00:20:42,157
Unless they repaint.
430
00:20:43,492 --> 00:20:46,370
Anybody from out of town?
It's a trick question, it's LA.
431
00:20:46,453 --> 00:20:48,247
Everybody's from out of town.
432
00:20:48,330 --> 00:20:50,207
Most of Los Angeles
isn't even in Los Angeles.
433
00:20:50,290 --> 00:20:52,584
I mean, Azusa? Excusa?
434
00:20:57,047 --> 00:20:57,881
Oh, my God.
435
00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:03,387
- Hey, man. I hated your show.
- What?
436
00:21:03,470 --> 00:21:06,056
- "Horsin' Around." Hated it.
- Yeah, that's a hell of an opener.
437
00:21:06,139 --> 00:21:07,557
But my baby brother loved it.
438
00:21:07,641 --> 00:21:09,309
I'd be in my bedroom, sulking
439
00:21:09,393 --> 00:21:12,354
and I'd hear him laughing his ass off
in the living room.
440
00:21:12,437 --> 00:21:13,730
He had this great laugh.
441
00:21:13,814 --> 00:21:17,484
Drugs took a lot from him,
but he still had that laugh.
442
00:21:17,651 --> 00:21:18,986
Right up to the end.
443
00:21:19,778 --> 00:21:23,740
Now anytime I hear anything about
that show, I hear my brother's laugh.
444
00:21:24,449 --> 00:21:27,577
- Thanks for that.
- Well, shit. You're welcome.
445
00:21:28,161 --> 00:21:29,496
Hey, do you wanna go up?
446
00:21:29,579 --> 00:21:32,499
Oh, man. I...
I haven't done stand-up in years.
447
00:21:32,582 --> 00:21:35,460
You're famous. They'll get
a kick out of it even if you suck.
448
00:21:35,544 --> 00:21:38,839
I don't think so.
Thanks, though.
449
00:21:45,345 --> 00:21:46,638
Oh.
450
00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:51,601
Mm-mm. No.
451
00:21:51,685 --> 00:21:54,187
- Hmm. Oh, what about this show?
- Oh, what's it about?
452
00:21:54,271 --> 00:21:55,105
It's really smart.
453
00:21:55,188 --> 00:21:57,733
It's about New Orleans and jazz
and Hurricane Katrina
454
00:21:57,816 --> 00:21:59,443
and drugs and John Goodman.
455
00:21:59,526 --> 00:22:01,153
- Sounds exciting.
- It's not!
456
00:22:01,236 --> 00:22:04,156
Maude? I heard a man's voice!
457
00:22:04,239 --> 00:22:07,034
- Yeah, Mom, Todd's over!
- Is that a burglar?
458
00:22:07,117 --> 00:22:09,328
He's my boyfriend! We're gonna watch TV!
459
00:22:09,411 --> 00:22:11,121
No shows about burglars, though!
460
00:22:11,246 --> 00:22:13,707
- You got it, Mom!
- And keep the door open.
461
00:22:13,790 --> 00:22:17,044
- No funny business!
- Okay, Mom.
462
00:22:17,711 --> 00:22:19,463
Wanna watch the second part
of the BoJack interview?
463
00:22:19,546 --> 00:22:20,881
I don't know.
464
00:22:20,964 --> 00:22:23,925
That guy was my best friend
for like five years.
465
00:22:24,009 --> 00:22:26,303
But not because we have anything
in common.
466
00:22:26,386 --> 00:22:28,513
I just landed at his house one night.
467
00:22:28,597 --> 00:22:30,724
You ever get tired of living
at the mercy of whoever happens
468
00:22:30,807 --> 00:22:32,017
to let you crash on their couch?
469
00:22:32,100 --> 00:22:34,019
- What do you mean?
- Why don't you get your own place?
470
00:22:34,102 --> 00:22:36,104
Princess Carolyn doesn't need
a live-in nanny anymore.
471
00:22:36,188 --> 00:22:37,481
I think I'd get lonely.
472
00:22:37,564 --> 00:22:40,275
How about this:
what if you had your own place,
473
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,735
but you shared it with someone?
474
00:22:41,818 --> 00:22:43,862
- Like a roommate?
- Or a girlfriend.
475
00:22:43,987 --> 00:22:47,240
But Maude,
you're my girlfriend.
476
00:22:47,324 --> 00:22:48,533
What am I supposed to do?
477
00:22:48,617 --> 00:22:50,911
Get a second girlfriend
just to live with?
478
00:22:50,994 --> 00:22:53,830
- No, I...
- And by the way, you're one to talk.
479
00:22:53,914 --> 00:22:55,290
- You still live with your mom.
- Yeah, I...
480
00:22:55,374 --> 00:22:57,709
- Why don't you get your own place?
- Right, that's actually what...
481
00:22:57,793 --> 00:23:00,504
Wait. I just got an incredible idea!
482
00:23:00,587 --> 00:23:02,756
Yeah? Because I just had
an incredible idea, too.
483
00:23:02,839 --> 00:23:06,301
Okay, let's both say our ideas
at the same time.
484
00:23:06,385 --> 00:23:08,845
One, two, three.
485
00:23:08,929 --> 00:23:11,056
- Salty gum.
- Ice cream sandwich flavored ice cream.
486
00:23:11,139 --> 00:23:12,724
Also, we should move in together.
487
00:23:12,808 --> 00:23:14,142
Oh.
488
00:23:16,019 --> 00:23:17,729
You know what they don't tell you
about getting sober?
489
00:23:17,813 --> 00:23:21,108
The hardest part, worse than the DTs
or the looking back at everything you did
490
00:23:21,191 --> 00:23:22,859
or the constant fear of relapse,
491
00:23:22,943 --> 00:23:26,029
the hardest part is figuring out
what the hell to drink
492
00:23:26,113 --> 00:23:27,781
when you order a meal
at a nice restaurant.
493
00:23:28,198 --> 00:23:31,118
You expect me to order
the bucatini carbonara at Gusto
494
00:23:31,201 --> 00:23:33,662
and then drink, what, an Arnold Palmer?
495
00:23:33,745 --> 00:23:36,748
I'm not even a red wine guy, but come on!
"Here's your steak, sir.
496
00:23:36,832 --> 00:23:39,960
Would you like an ice-cold Dr. Pepper
to go with that?" I mean...
497
00:23:48,969 --> 00:23:50,137
Are you all right?
498
00:23:50,220 --> 00:23:53,014
Eh... Hmm.
499
00:24:12,117 --> 00:24:14,953
I guess what I'm getting at is
I keep hearing you say,
500
00:24:15,036 --> 00:24:17,038
"That's not me. I've changed."
501
00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:19,624
But how can we believe
you've stopped this pattern of behavior
502
00:24:19,708 --> 00:24:21,293
if you won't acknowledge
this pattern exists?
503
00:24:21,376 --> 00:24:24,004
I don't even know what pattern
you're talking about.
504
00:24:24,087 --> 00:24:25,881
I'll try one more time.
505
00:24:25,964 --> 00:24:28,800
Over these last two nights,
you've drawn us an outline of a person.
506
00:24:28,925 --> 00:24:33,096
A person who doesn't think about others,
a person who puts his own needs first.
507
00:24:33,180 --> 00:24:35,474
And over and over, other people get hurt,
508
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,434
not necessarily because he means
to hurt them,
509
00:24:37,517 --> 00:24:39,686
but because he just doesn't care.
510
00:24:39,769 --> 00:24:44,316
This person I'm describing,
is it a different person, or is it you?
511
00:24:44,524 --> 00:24:45,775
Oh.
512
00:24:48,653 --> 00:24:50,822
Yeah. It's me.