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>> narrator: True love was this
couple's greatest blessing.
>> this man loved this woman

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couple's greatest blessing.
>> this man loved this woman
and would've done anything in

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>> this man loved this woman
and would've done anything in
the world for her.

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And would've done anything in
the world for her.
>> even after years of marriage,

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the world for her.
>> even after years of marriage,
the couple acted like two

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>> even after years of marriage,
the couple acted like two
teenagers in love.

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The couple acted like two
teenagers in love.
>> he was a beloved pastor.

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Teenagers in love.
>> he was a beloved pastor.
She was a good-hearted person.

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>> he was a beloved pastor.
She was a good-hearted person.
And they was successful in what

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she was a good-hearted person.
And they was successful in what
they was doing.

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And they was successful in what
they was doing.
>> narrator: Until a mysterious

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they was doing.
>> narrator: Until a mysterious
assailant puts an end to this

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>> narrator: Until a mysterious
assailant puts an end to this
minister's days in the pulpit.

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Assailant puts an end to this
minister's days in the pulpit.
[ gunshots ]

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minister's days in the pulpit.
[ gunshots ]
>> people in the congregation

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[ gunshots ]
>> people in the congregation
were appalled.

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>> people in the congregation
were appalled.
>> he had no enemies.

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Were appalled.
>> he had no enemies.
This is a man of god.

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>> he had no enemies.
This is a man of god.
>> who would want to kill him?

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This is a man of god.
>> who would want to kill him?
For what motive?

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>> who would want to kill him?
For what motive?
>> narrator: In a case where

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for what motive?
>> narrator: In a case where
nothing is what it seems,

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>> narrator: In a case where
nothing is what it seems,
detectives must uncover a hidden

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nothing is what it seems,
detectives must uncover a hidden
trail of money, lust, and lies,

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detectives must uncover a hidden
trail of money, lust, and lies,
leading to two decades of

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trail of money, lust, and lies,
leading to two decades of
secrets, drenched in blood.

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Leading to two decades of
secrets, drenched in blood.
>> there was deceit and

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secrets, drenched in blood.
>> there was deceit and
backstabbing and families

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>> there was deceit and
backstabbing and families
turning on each other.

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Backstabbing and families
turning on each other.
There's affairs and sex.

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Turning on each other.
There's affairs and sex.
This could easily be the

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there's affairs and sex.
This could easily be the
"who shot j.R.?"

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this could easily be the
"who shot j.R.?"
new orleans version.

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"who shot j.R.?"
new orleans version.
>> I was baffled.

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New orleans version.
>> I was baffled.
I was in awe.

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>> I was baffled.
I was in awe.
I was like [gasps]

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I was in awe.
I was like [gasps]
"oh, my goodness."

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>> narrator: April 12, 2006,

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11:30 p.M.

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It's a muggy spring night in
new orleans, and all around
the crescent city, people are

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new orleans, and all around
the crescent city, people are
struggling to rebuild their

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the crescent city, people are
struggling to rebuild their
lives eight months after

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struggling to rebuild their
lives eight months after
hurricane katrina.

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Lives eight months after
hurricane katrina.
>> after katrina, new orleans

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hurricane katrina.
>> after katrina, new orleans
was in a real bad place.

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>> after katrina, new orleans
was in a real bad place.
>> you don't have services to

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was in a real bad place.
>> you don't have services to
meet your basic needs.

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Most of your population has been

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damaged and traumatized

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and everyone's angry.

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>> narrator: But in a city
already awash in pain, tragedy
is about to strike again.

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Already awash in pain, tragedy
is about to strike again.
[ gunshots ]

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is about to strike again.
[ gunshots ]
>> ernest!

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[ gunshots ]
>> ernest!
[ screams ]

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>> ernest!
[ screams ]
no.

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[ screams ]
no.
Oh, god!

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No.
Oh, god!
Ernest, get up!

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Oh, god!
Ernest, get up!
[ cellphone ringing ]

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ernest, get up!
[ cellphone ringing ]
no! Get up!

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[ cellphone ringing ]
no! Get up!
>> 911. What's your emergency?

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No! Get up!
>> 911. What's your emergency?
>> oh, god! Please, send help!

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>> 911. What's your emergency?
>> oh, god! Please, send help!
My husband's been shot!

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>> oh, god! Please, send help!
My husband's been shot!
Please help!

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My husband's been shot!
Please help!
>> narrator: The woman on the

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please help!
>> narrator: The woman on the
line is 41-year-old emma smith.

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>> she was upstairs when she

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hears her husband calling that

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he's been shot, and she comes

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downstairs to find him.

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>> he was lying in the doorway.

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His shirt was saturated in

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blood.

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>> I can't stop the bleeding!

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>> ma'am, stay on the line.

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We're sending police and emts

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right away.

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first responders arrive, it's

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already too late.

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Emma's 38-year-old husband,

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ernest smith, is pronounced dead

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on arrival.

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>> by the time they got there,

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he had bled out.

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>> narrator: Born and raised in

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new orleans, ernest smith made a

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living as a truck driver for

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most of his life.

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But it was behind the pulpit,

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not behind the wheel, where

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ernest felt most at home.

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>> his passion was preaching and

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spreading the word of god.

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>> ministry is a way of reaching

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out to the hurting, and I know

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he had some hurts.

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reaching out to those that was

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hurting as well.

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ernest's commitment to god led

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him to a church in bethel,

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louisiana, where he worked

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part-time as a pastor and helped

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grow the congregation.

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>> ernest was the type of

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preacher that, if you ever heard

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him, you will want to hear him

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again.

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>> narrator: As ernest's
reputation grew, so did his
flock.

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Reputation grew, so did his
flock.
One Sunday, ernest met a pretty

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flock.
One Sunday, ernest met a pretty
parishioner named emma evans.

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One Sunday, ernest met a pretty
parishioner named emma evans.
>> how you doing, pastor?

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Parishioner named emma evans.
>> how you doing, pastor?
>> hey, how you doing?

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>> how you doing, pastor?
>> hey, how you doing?
>> that was a lovely sermon.

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>> hey, how you doing?
>> that was a lovely sermon.
>> you know, she caught his eye.

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>> that was a lovely sermon.
>> you know, she caught his eye.
>> so, what do you think of our

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>> you know, she caught his eye.
>> so, what do you think of our
little church here?

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>> so, what do you think of our
little church here?
>> it's wonderful.

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Little church here?
>> it's wonderful.
It's just the thing I need to

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>> it's wonderful.
It's just the thing I need to
get a fresh start.

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It's just the thing I need to
get a fresh start.
>> who's these two you have with

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get a fresh start.
>> who's these two you have with
you?

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>> who's these two you have with
you?
>> this is kacy.

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You?
>> this is kacy.
This is carlton.

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>> this is kacy.
This is carlton.
>> emma was recently widowed.

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She was a single mother of two

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children.

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>> her husband had been hit by a
car and, subsequent to that,
became a paraplegic and died.

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Car and, subsequent to that,
became a paraplegic and died.
>> she was suffering and in

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became a paraplegic and died.
>> she was suffering and in
church, looking for some comfort

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>> she was suffering and in
church, looking for some comfort
from the lord.

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Church, looking for some comfort
from the lord.
>> all right.

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From the lord.
>> all right.
You gonna come back next week?

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>> all right.
You gonna come back next week?
>> yes, I will.

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You gonna come back next week?
>> yes, I will.
>> all right, then.

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>> yes, I will.
>> all right, then.
>> all right.

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>> all right, then.
>> all right.
>> all right. Thank you.

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>> all right.
>> all right. Thank you.
>> narrator: In the coming

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>> all right. Thank you.
>> narrator: In the coming
months, ernest became emma's

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>> narrator: In the coming
months, ernest became emma's
spiritual sounding board,

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months, ernest became emma's
spiritual sounding board,
offering her a sympathetic ear

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spiritual sounding board,
offering her a sympathetic ear
and a shoulder to cry on.

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Offering her a sympathetic ear
and a shoulder to cry on.
But try as he might, ernest

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and a shoulder to cry on.
But try as he might, ernest
couldn't deny the feelings he

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but try as he might, ernest
couldn't deny the feelings he
was developing for his newest

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couldn't deny the feelings he
was developing for his newest
parishioner.

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Was developing for his newest
parishioner.
>> she was just somebody that he

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parishioner.
>> she was just somebody that he
became interested in, and just

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>> she was just somebody that he
became interested in, and just
wanted to spend his life with.

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Became interested in, and just
wanted to spend his life with.
>> narrator: Turns out, the

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wanted to spend his life with.
>> narrator: Turns out, the
feeling was mutual.

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>> narrator: Turns out, the
feeling was mutual.
>> she needed him for spiritual

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feeling was mutual.
>> she needed him for spiritual
growth and he needed her

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>> she needed him for spiritual
growth and he needed her
for natural growth.

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Growth and he needed her
for natural growth.
>> narrator: After years of

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for natural growth.
>> narrator: After years of
dating, the couple married in

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>> narrator: After years of
dating, the couple married in
the mid-'90s.

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Dating, the couple married in
the mid-'90s.
>> they was meant for each

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the mid-'90s.
>> they was meant for each
other.

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>> they was meant for each
other.
This man loved this woman

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other.
This man loved this woman
and would've done anything in

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this man loved this woman
and would've done anything in
the world for her.

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And would've done anything in
the world for her.
>> narrator: Over the next 10

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the world for her.
>> narrator: Over the next 10
years, ernest, emma, and her two

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>> narrator: Over the next 10
years, ernest, emma, and her two
children moved wherever

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years, ernest, emma, and her two
children moved wherever
the holy spirit called them.

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>> after kind of bouncing around

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from church to church, the

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family decided to settle in

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new orleans.

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Along the way, ernest continued

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working as a truck driver and

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also preached in several small

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churches.

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But his dream always was to
become a full-time pastor.
>> narrator: As for emma, she

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become a full-time pastor.
>> narrator: As for emma, she
had big dreams of her own.

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>> narrator: As for emma, she
had big dreams of her own.
>> she was an entrepreneur.

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Had big dreams of her own.
>> she was an entrepreneur.
The girl just had it going on.

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>> she was an entrepreneur.
The girl just had it going on.
I mean, she was very smart,

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the girl just had it going on.
I mean, she was very smart,
and she always was able to make

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I mean, she was very smart,
and she always was able to make
a dollar.

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And she always was able to make
a dollar.
>> she had a hair shop at one

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a dollar.
>> she had a hair shop at one
time.

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>> she had a hair shop at one
time.
Then she was in real estate.

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Time.
Then she was in real estate.
>> narrator: But in 2005,

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then she was in real estate.
>> narrator: But in 2005,
ernest and emma lost everything.

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>> narrator: But in 2005,
ernest and emma lost everything.
>> hurricane katrina was

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ernest and emma lost everything.
>> hurricane katrina was
August 29, 2005.

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>> hurricane katrina was
August 29, 2005.
>> their home was one of the

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August 29, 2005.
>> their home was one of the
worst-hit areas in new orleans.

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>> their home was one of the
worst-hit areas in new orleans.
>> katrina displaced a whole lot

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worst-hit areas in new orleans.
>> katrina displaced a whole lot
of people.

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>> katrina displaced a whole lot
of people.
They both left together.

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Of people.
They both left together.
They went to mississippi.

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They both left together.
They went to mississippi.
>> they were living in

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they went to mississippi.
>> they were living in
poplarville, mississippi.

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>> they were living in
poplarville, mississippi.
Emma's family was in poplarville

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poplarville, mississippi.
Emma's family was in poplarville
as well.

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Emma's family was in poplarville
as well.
>> they were struggling in

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as well.
>> they were struggling in
poplarville, and both wanted to

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>> they were struggling in
poplarville, and both wanted to
move back to new orleans.

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Poplarville, and both wanted to
move back to new orleans.
But emma was particularly

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move back to new orleans.
But emma was particularly
desperate to move back.

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But emma was particularly
desperate to move back.
>> narrator: Although

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desperate to move back.
>> narrator: Although
new orleans was still reeling

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>> narrator: Although
new orleans was still reeling
from the effects of katrina,

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new orleans was still reeling
from the effects of katrina,
emma was fortunate enough to

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from the effects of katrina,
emma was fortunate enough to
find a job opportunity there.

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Emma was fortunate enough to
find a job opportunity there.
>> she'd found a job with a

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find a job opportunity there.
>> she'd found a job with a
real-estate agent in

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>> she'd found a job with a
real-estate agent in
new orleans east.

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Real-estate agent in
new orleans east.
>> narrator: With ernest's

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new orleans east.
>> narrator: With ernest's
blessing, emma returned to

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>> narrator: With ernest's
blessing, emma returned to
new orleans and rented a

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blessing, emma returned to
new orleans and rented a
townhouse on the east side of

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new orleans and rented a
townhouse on the east side of
town.

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Townhouse on the east side of
town.
While emma got things settled in

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town.
While emma got things settled in
new orleans, ernest and the kids

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while emma got things settled in
new orleans, ernest and the kids
stayed behind in poplarville.

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New orleans, ernest and the kids
stayed behind in poplarville.
But it wasn't long before

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stayed behind in poplarville.
But it wasn't long before
ernest received an opportunity

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but it wasn't long before
ernest received an opportunity
of his own -- for what seemed

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ernest received an opportunity
of his own -- for what seemed
like his dream job.

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Of his own -- for what seemed
like his dream job.
>> mr. Smith had just received

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like his dream job.
>> mr. Smith had just received
word that he was going to be a

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>> mr. Smith had just received
word that he was going to be a
pastor over what they call a

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word that he was going to be a
pastor over what they call a
mega church in atlanta, georgia.

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Pastor over what they call a
mega church in atlanta, georgia.
>> he can be a preacher

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mega church in atlanta, georgia.
>> he can be a preacher
full-time now.

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>> he can be a preacher
full-time now.
He would no longer have to drive

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full-time now.
He would no longer have to drive
trucks to provide for his

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he would no longer have to drive
trucks to provide for his
family.

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Trucks to provide for his
family.
He could follow his passion.

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Family.
He could follow his passion.
>> he was excited about that.

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He could follow his passion.
>> he was excited about that.
And all he needed now was emma.

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>> he was excited about that.
And all he needed now was emma.
>> narrator: With this offer in

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and all he needed now was emma.
>> narrator: With this offer in
tow, ernest headed to atlanta

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>> narrator: With this offer in
tow, ernest headed to atlanta
with the hopes of convincing

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tow, ernest headed to atlanta
with the hopes of convincing
emma to follow him as he pursued

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with the hopes of convincing
emma to follow him as he pursued
his calling.

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Emma to follow him as he pursued
his calling.
>> he was gonna open up a new

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his calling.
>> he was gonna open up a new
chapter in his life.

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>> he was gonna open up a new
chapter in his life.
He wanted her to be a part of

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chapter in his life.
He wanted her to be a part of
that.

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He wanted her to be a part of
that.
You know, you get the church in

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that.
You know, you get the church in
atlanta, she was gonna go with

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you know, you get the church in
atlanta, she was gonna go with
him.

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Atlanta, she was gonna go with
him.
>> I feel like this move will be

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him.
>> I feel like this move will be
such a blessing for us.

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>> I feel like this move will be
such a blessing for us.
>> mm-hmm.

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Such a blessing for us.
>> mm-hmm.
>> she was all excited.

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>> mm-hmm.
>> she was all excited.
She was saying, "well, he was so

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>> she was all excited.
She was saying, "well, he was so
happy."

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she was saying, "well, he was so
happy."
he was happy for them.

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Happy."
he was happy for them.
>> narrator: But then, just when

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he was happy for them.
>> narrator: But then, just when
it seemed the couple was on the

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>> narrator: But then, just when
it seemed the couple was on the
brink of having their dreams

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it seemed the couple was on the
brink of having their dreams
come true...

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Brink of having their dreams
come true...
Tragedy struck.

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Come true...
Tragedy struck.
>> [ screams ]

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tragedy struck.
>> [ screams ]
>> everyone was shocked to find

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>> [ screams ]
>> everyone was shocked to find
out that ernest was dead.

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>> everyone was shocked to find
out that ernest was dead.
He was only 38, and his life

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out that ernest was dead.
He was only 38, and his life
dream was at his fingertips.

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He was only 38, and his life
dream was at his fingertips.
>> how could someone do this

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dream was at his fingertips.
>> how could someone do this
to a man of god?

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>> how could someone do this
to a man of god?
>> narrator: Finding the answer

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to a man of god?
>> narrator: Finding the answer
won't be easy, especially in

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>> narrator: Finding the answer
won't be easy, especially in
crime-addled, post-katrina

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won't be easy, especially in
crime-addled, post-katrina
new orleans.

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Crime-addled, post-katrina
new orleans.
>> I could've been the neighbor

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new orleans.
>> I could've been the neighbor
down the street.

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>> I could've been the neighbor
down the street.
It could've been someone

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down the street.
It could've been someone
actually lying in wait.

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It could've been someone
actually lying in wait.
This really could have been

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actually lying in wait.
This really could have been
anyone.

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This really could have been
anyone.
♪

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♪
>> narrator: After weathering
the nightmare of

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>> narrator: After weathering
the nightmare of
hurricane katrina, ernest smith

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the nightmare of
hurricane katrina, ernest smith
and his wife, emma, seemed on

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hurricane katrina, ernest smith
and his wife, emma, seemed on
the cusp of living their dream

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and his wife, emma, seemed on
the cusp of living their dream
life.

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>> ernest had accepted a job as

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a pastor at a mega church in

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atlanta.

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And the real-estate market was

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pretty solid there, which would

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provide a good career

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opportunity for emma.

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>> this was ernest's dream.

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>> narrator: Then, on the night

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of April 12, 2006, just weeks

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before the family's anticipated

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move, the unthinkable happens.

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>> police officers found ernest

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in the hallway, dead of their

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new orleans townhome.

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He was shot.

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>> there was blood in the area

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where mr. Smith lay.

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It's just gruesome.

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>> for emma, this is the second

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husband that she had lost in a

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tragic accident.

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It was clear that this was

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almost more than she could bear.

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>> we were home and got a phone

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call, and she was screaming and

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hollering and was saying ernest

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was gone.

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>> she wanted to know -- who

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killed my husband?

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>> narrator: Detectives on the
scene promise emma they'll find
ernest's killer.

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Scene promise emma they'll find
ernest's killer.
But to do so, they'll need her

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ernest's killer.
But to do so, they'll need her
help.

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But to do so, they'll need her
help.
>> hi, emma.

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Help.
>> hi, emma.
Listen, I know this is tough,

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>> hi, emma.
Listen, I know this is tough,
but we need to ask you a couple

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listen, I know this is tough,
but we need to ask you a couple
questions.

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But we need to ask you a couple
questions.
>> narrator: Though still in

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questions.
>> narrator: Though still in
shock, emma manages to pace

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>> narrator: Though still in
shock, emma manages to pace
police through the events

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shock, emma manages to pace
police through the events
leading up to the shooting.

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Police through the events
leading up to the shooting.
>> she tells police that ernest

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leading up to the shooting.
>> she tells police that ernest
left their home about 8:30 that

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>> she tells police that ernest
left their home about 8:30 that
evening to attend a local bike

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left their home about 8:30 that
evening to attend a local bike
night with his friend,

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evening to attend a local bike
night with his friend,
donald williams.

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Night with his friend,
donald williams.
>> hey, babe. About to go.

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Donald williams.
>> hey, babe. About to go.
Donald's here.

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>> hey, babe. About to go.
Donald's here.
>> ernest smith had recently

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donald's here.
>> ernest smith had recently
purchased his first motorcycle.

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Bike night was a night where

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people who are motorcycle

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enthusiasts would showcase their

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bikes.

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>> hey, what's up, e?
>> what's up, boy?
>> ready for a night out?

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>> what's up, boy?
>> ready for a night out?
>> you know it.

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>> ready for a night out?
>> you know it.
>> let's go.

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>> you know it.
>> let's go.
>> narrator: Emma explains that

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>> let's go.
>> narrator: Emma explains that
she had been suffering from a

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>> narrator: Emma explains that
she had been suffering from a
toothache, so shortly after

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she had been suffering from a
toothache, so shortly after
ernest left to go to the rally,

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toothache, so shortly after
ernest left to go to the rally,
she turned in for the night.

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Ernest left to go to the rally,
she turned in for the night.
>> let's get out of here, baby.

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She turned in for the night.
>> let's get out of here, baby.
>> let's go.

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>> let's get out of here, baby.
>> let's go.
>> she took some

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>> let's go.
>> she took some
over-the-counter medication and

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>> she took some
over-the-counter medication and
she was asleep.

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Over-the-counter medication and
she was asleep.
>> I was awakened by a loud

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she was asleep.
>> I was awakened by a loud
bang.

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>> I was awakened by a loud
bang.
And then I heard ernest yell out

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bang.
And then I heard ernest yell out
he'd been shot.

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And then I heard ernest yell out
he'd been shot.
>> she thought it was a car

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he'd been shot.
>> she thought it was a car
that backfired.

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>> she thought it was a car
that backfired.
[ gunshot ]

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that backfired.
[ gunshot ]
>> but emma quickly realizes

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[ gunshot ]
>> but emma quickly realizes
that something terrible is going

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>> but emma quickly realizes
that something terrible is going
on.

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That something terrible is going
on.
>> ernest?

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On.
>> ernest?
Oh, god!

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>> ernest?
Oh, god!
>> narrator: According to emma,

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oh, god!
>> narrator: According to emma,
at that point she raced

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>> narrator: According to emma,
at that point she raced
downstairs, where she discovered

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at that point she raced
downstairs, where she discovered
ernest in a blood-soaked heap.

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Downstairs, where she discovered
ernest in a blood-soaked heap.
>> hello?!

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Ernest in a blood-soaked heap.
>> hello?!
>> miss emma immediately dialed

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>> hello?!
>> miss emma immediately dialed
911 to report the incident.

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>> miss emma immediately dialed
911 to report the incident.
>> now, when you found ernest,

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911 to report the incident.
>> now, when you found ernest,
did you see anybody else inside

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>> now, when you found ernest,
did you see anybody else inside
the house or outside?

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Did you see anybody else inside
the house or outside?
>> no, sir.

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The house or outside?
>> no, sir.
>> okay.

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>> no, sir.
>> okay.
>> when she gets down there,

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>> okay.
>> when she gets down there,
that there's nobody there,

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>> when she gets down there,
that there's nobody there,
there's no car there or anything

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that there's nobody there,
there's no car there or anything
of that nature.

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There's no car there or anything
of that nature.
>> do you know anyone that

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of that nature.
>> do you know anyone that
would want to hurt your husband?

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>> do you know anyone that
would want to hurt your husband?
>> ernest?

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Would want to hurt your husband?
>> ernest?
No. Everyone loved him.

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>> ernest?
No. Everyone loved him.
>> all right, well, if you can

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no. Everyone loved him.
>> all right, well, if you can
think about anyone, please let

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>> all right, well, if you can
think about anyone, please let
us know.

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Think about anyone, please let
us know.
>> narrator: As detectives

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us know.
>> narrator: As detectives
finish up with emma, csi's

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>> narrator: As detectives
finish up with emma, csi's
collect physical evidence that

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finish up with emma, csi's
collect physical evidence that
seems to corroborate her version

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collect physical evidence that
seems to corroborate her version
of events.

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Seems to corroborate her version
of events.
>> two 9-millimeter spent shell

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of events.
>> two 9-millimeter spent shell
casings were found outside of

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>> two 9-millimeter spent shell
casings were found outside of
the doorway.

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Casings were found outside of
the doorway.
>> looks to me like he first got

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the doorway.
>> looks to me like he first got
hit here.

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>> looks to me like he first got
hit here.
>> we see the blood spatter

401
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hit here.
>> we see the blood spatter
begin in the grassy area outside

402
00:11:22,916 --> 00:11:23,715
>> we see the blood spatter
begin in the grassy area outside
of the door.

403
00:11:23,717 --> 00:11:25,250
Begin in the grassy area outside
of the door.
>> and then he must've just

404
00:11:25,252 --> 00:11:26,651
of the door.
>> and then he must've just
stumbled inside.

405
00:11:26,653 --> 00:11:28,953
>> and then he must've just
stumbled inside.
>> and there was blood spatter

406
00:11:28,955 --> 00:11:31,022
stumbled inside.
>> and there was blood spatter
leading up to the stairway

407
00:11:31,024 --> 00:11:32,424
>> and there was blood spatter
leading up to the stairway
where he collapses.

408
00:11:32,725 --> 00:11:34,626
>> there did not appear to be

409
00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,028
any foot marks, any track marks,

410
00:11:37,163 --> 00:11:39,130
all around the body.

411
00:11:39,432 --> 00:11:43,702
>> detectives speculate that the
triggerman shot ernest from a
distance that was close enough

412
00:11:43,704 --> 00:11:45,203
triggerman shot ernest from a
distance that was close enough
to leave a high amount of blood

413
00:11:45,205 --> 00:11:47,305
distance that was close enough
to leave a high amount of blood
spatter but not so close as to

414
00:11:47,307 --> 00:11:49,207
to leave a high amount of blood
spatter but not so close as to
leave any bloody footprints

415
00:11:49,209 --> 00:11:49,874
spatter but not so close as to
leave any bloody footprints
behind.

416
00:11:49,876 --> 00:11:51,743
Leave any bloody footprints
behind.
>> narrator: But who would've

417
00:11:51,745 --> 00:11:52,877
behind.
>> narrator: But who would've
targeted ernest?

418
00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:54,579
>> narrator: But who would've
targeted ernest?
To detectives, the obvious

419
00:11:54,581 --> 00:11:56,247
targeted ernest?
To detectives, the obvious
motive is theft.

420
00:11:56,249 --> 00:11:57,949
To detectives, the obvious
motive is theft.
>> after katrina, there was a

421
00:11:57,951 --> 00:11:59,584
motive is theft.
>> after katrina, there was a
lot of stealing going on and

422
00:11:59,586 --> 00:12:00,485
>> after katrina, there was a
lot of stealing going on and
robberies.

423
00:12:00,786 --> 00:12:02,153
>> certainly, if you have a

424
00:12:02,288 --> 00:12:03,888
flashy new motorcycle, that's an

425
00:12:04,023 --> 00:12:05,223
opportunity for crime.

426
00:12:05,357 --> 00:12:06,424
>> he could've been followed

427
00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,593
from bike night, or his attacker

428
00:12:08,728 --> 00:12:12,363
was in fact casing the area and

429
00:12:12,498 --> 00:12:13,331
laid in wait.

430
00:12:13,466 --> 00:12:15,300
>> that could easily have gotten

431
00:12:15,434 --> 00:12:16,501
out of hand.

432
00:12:16,802 --> 00:12:21,072
>> narrator: Except there's one
problem with this theory...
>> his bike was still there,

433
00:12:21,074 --> 00:12:22,841
problem with this theory...
>> his bike was still there,
so it seemed pretty clear that

434
00:12:22,843 --> 00:12:24,075
>> his bike was still there,
so it seemed pretty clear that
was not any motive.

435
00:12:24,077 --> 00:12:25,810
So it seemed pretty clear that
was not any motive.
>> narrator: As police ponder

436
00:12:25,812 --> 00:12:27,645
was not any motive.
>> narrator: As police ponder
their next move, a car pulls up

437
00:12:27,647 --> 00:12:29,681
>> narrator: As police ponder
their next move, a car pulls up
outside the couple's townhouse.

438
00:12:29,683 --> 00:12:31,549
Their next move, a car pulls up
outside the couple's townhouse.
The driver identifies himself

439
00:12:31,551 --> 00:12:32,851
outside the couple's townhouse.
The driver identifies himself
as ernest's friend,

440
00:12:32,853 --> 00:12:34,319
the driver identifies himself
as ernest's friend,
donald williams.

441
00:12:34,321 --> 00:12:36,287
As ernest's friend,
donald williams.
>> officer, I got this.

442
00:12:36,289 --> 00:12:38,590
Donald williams.
>> officer, I got this.
>> he said he was called, on

443
00:12:38,592 --> 00:12:40,959
>> officer, I got this.
>> he said he was called, on
the telephone, by emma smith,

444
00:12:40,961 --> 00:12:43,461
>> he said he was called, on
the telephone, by emma smith,
who advised him that ernest had

445
00:12:43,463 --> 00:12:44,195
the telephone, by emma smith,
who advised him that ernest had
been shot.

446
00:12:44,197 --> 00:12:45,663
Who advised him that ernest had
been shot.
>> I couldn't believe it.

447
00:12:45,665 --> 00:12:46,865
Been shot.
>> I couldn't believe it.
I was just with him.

448
00:12:46,867 --> 00:12:47,799
>> I couldn't believe it.
I was just with him.
>> is that so?

449
00:12:47,801 --> 00:12:49,234
I was just with him.
>> is that so?
>> he said he had brought

450
00:12:49,236 --> 00:12:50,769
>> is that so?
>> he said he had brought
ernest smith back from bike

451
00:12:50,771 --> 00:12:52,403
>> he said he had brought
ernest smith back from bike
night some time around 10:30,

452
00:12:52,405 --> 00:12:54,139
ernest smith back from bike
night some time around 10:30,
and they're standing outside of

453
00:12:54,141 --> 00:12:55,707
night some time around 10:30,
and they're standing outside of
the apartment complex just sort

454
00:12:55,709 --> 00:12:56,407
and they're standing outside of
the apartment complex just sort
of talking.

455
00:12:56,409 --> 00:12:58,009
The apartment complex just sort
of talking.
>> so how long exactly would you

456
00:12:58,011 --> 00:13:00,345
of talking.
>> so how long exactly would you
say you were out here for?

457
00:13:00,347 --> 00:13:01,980
>> so how long exactly would you
say you were out here for?
>> about an hour.

458
00:13:01,982 --> 00:13:03,715
Say you were out here for?
>> about an hour.
>> so about 11:30?

459
00:13:03,717 --> 00:13:05,016
>> about an hour.
>> so about 11:30?
>> yeah, I guess. Yeah.

460
00:13:05,018 --> 00:13:06,718
>> so about 11:30?
>> yeah, I guess. Yeah.
>> that's literally just moments

461
00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,120
>> yeah, I guess. Yeah.
>> that's literally just moments
before ernest was shot and emma

462
00:13:09,122 --> 00:13:11,122
>> that's literally just moments
before ernest was shot and emma
called 911.

463
00:13:11,124 --> 00:13:13,291
Before ernest was shot and emma
called 911.
>> in our eyes, the last person

464
00:13:13,293 --> 00:13:16,227
called 911.
>> in our eyes, the last person
to have seen mr. Smith alive

465
00:13:16,229 --> 00:13:17,195
>> in our eyes, the last person
to have seen mr. Smith alive
is a suspect.

466
00:13:17,197 --> 00:13:19,030
To have seen mr. Smith alive
is a suspect.
>> mr. Williams, have you and

467
00:13:19,032 --> 00:13:21,032
is a suspect.
>> mr. Williams, have you and
ernest gotten in any argument

468
00:13:21,034 --> 00:13:21,800
>> mr. Williams, have you and
ernest gotten in any argument
recently?

469
00:13:21,802 --> 00:13:22,600
Ernest gotten in any argument
recently?
>> wait. You don't think I had

470
00:13:22,602 --> 00:13:23,334
recently?
>> wait. You don't think I had
something to do with this,

471
00:13:23,336 --> 00:13:24,736
>> wait. You don't think I had
something to do with this,
do you?

472
00:13:24,738 --> 00:13:26,538
Something to do with this,
do you?
>> donald is confused as to why

473
00:13:26,540 --> 00:13:27,839
do you?
>> donald is confused as to why
the police would think that he

474
00:13:27,841 --> 00:13:29,407
>> donald is confused as to why
the police would think that he
is a suspect, and he is

475
00:13:29,409 --> 00:13:30,842
the police would think that he
is a suspect, and he is
genuinely distraught.

476
00:13:30,844 --> 00:13:32,477
Is a suspect, and he is
genuinely distraught.
But maybe that's an act.

477
00:13:32,479 --> 00:13:34,212
Genuinely distraught.
But maybe that's an act.
Maybe he left the scene to get

478
00:13:34,214 --> 00:13:35,847
but maybe that's an act.
Maybe he left the scene to get
rid of the gun and clean up.

479
00:13:35,849 --> 00:13:37,582
Maybe he left the scene to get
rid of the gun and clean up.
Maybe coming back was a cover.

480
00:13:37,584 --> 00:13:39,284
Rid of the gun and clean up.
Maybe coming back was a cover.
>> narrator: As investigators

481
00:13:39,286 --> 00:13:40,952
maybe coming back was a cover.
>> narrator: As investigators
continue to question donald,

482
00:13:40,954 --> 00:13:42,754
>> narrator: As investigators
continue to question donald,
patrol officers search the area

483
00:13:42,756 --> 00:13:44,889
continue to question donald,
patrol officers search the area
for other possible leads.

484
00:13:44,891 --> 00:13:47,192
Patrol officers search the area
for other possible leads.
But in a neighborhood still

485
00:13:47,194 --> 00:13:49,260
for other possible leads.
But in a neighborhood still
feeling the effects of katrina,

486
00:13:49,262 --> 00:13:50,862
but in a neighborhood still
feeling the effects of katrina,
eyewitnesses are few and far

487
00:13:50,864 --> 00:13:51,496
feeling the effects of katrina,
eyewitnesses are few and far
between.

488
00:13:51,498 --> 00:13:53,064
Eyewitnesses are few and far
between.
>> normally, you would have

489
00:13:53,066 --> 00:13:55,099
between.
>> normally, you would have
people canvassing the area,

490
00:13:55,101 --> 00:13:56,401
>> normally, you would have
people canvassing the area,
asking if anybody had seen

491
00:13:56,403 --> 00:13:57,969
people canvassing the area,
asking if anybody had seen
someone who didn't belong in the

492
00:13:57,971 --> 00:13:59,337
asking if anybody had seen
someone who didn't belong in the
neighborhood or heard about

493
00:13:59,339 --> 00:14:01,005
someone who didn't belong in the
neighborhood or heard about
anyone having beef with ernest.

494
00:14:01,007 --> 00:14:02,707
Neighborhood or heard about
anyone having beef with ernest.
But there was no one to canvas.

495
00:14:02,709 --> 00:14:04,209
Anyone having beef with ernest.
But there was no one to canvas.
>> this area that they were

496
00:14:04,211 --> 00:14:05,743
but there was no one to canvas.
>> this area that they were
living in was almost totally

497
00:14:05,745 --> 00:14:06,277
>> this area that they were
living in was almost totally
vacant.

498
00:14:06,279 --> 00:14:07,779
Living in was almost totally
vacant.
>> there are no surveillance

499
00:14:07,781 --> 00:14:09,214
vacant.
>> there are no surveillance
cameras or whatnot in that

500
00:14:09,216 --> 00:14:10,014
>> there are no surveillance
cameras or whatnot in that
neighborhood.

501
00:14:10,016 --> 00:14:11,382
Cameras or whatnot in that
neighborhood.
>> it was almost an ideal

502
00:14:11,384 --> 00:14:13,418
neighborhood.
>> it was almost an ideal
setting for someone to plan

503
00:14:13,420 --> 00:14:15,353
>> it was almost an ideal
setting for someone to plan
a murder.

504
00:14:17,656 --> 00:14:22,227
T's been four
hours since 38-year-old pastor
ernest smith was gunned down on

505
00:14:22,229 --> 00:14:23,828
hours since 38-year-old pastor
ernest smith was gunned down on
the steps of his new orleans

506
00:14:23,830 --> 00:14:25,096
ernest smith was gunned down on
the steps of his new orleans
townhouse.

507
00:14:25,098 --> 00:14:26,931
The steps of his new orleans
townhouse.
But in the barren, post-katrina

508
00:14:26,933 --> 00:14:28,399
townhouse.
But in the barren, post-katrina
neighborhood where the shooting

509
00:14:28,401 --> 00:14:29,767
but in the barren, post-katrina
neighborhood where the shooting
took place, police are having

510
00:14:29,769 --> 00:14:31,436
neighborhood where the shooting
took place, police are having
trouble digging up leads.

511
00:14:31,737 --> 00:14:33,504
>> there were no witnesses

512
00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:35,240
as to what could've happened.

513
00:14:35,374 --> 00:14:37,008
>> his wife, emma, who found him

514
00:14:37,142 --> 00:14:38,610
said she had seen nothing.

515
00:14:38,744 --> 00:14:40,378
>> there were no signs that it

516
00:14:40,512 --> 00:14:41,346
was a home invasion.

517
00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:42,447
>> they knew it wasn't a

518
00:14:42,581 --> 00:14:42,981
burglary.

519
00:14:43,115 --> 00:14:44,349
Nothing had been taken from the

520
00:14:44,483 --> 00:14:44,682
house.

521
00:14:44,817 --> 00:14:45,817
The perpetrator didn't even go

522
00:14:45,951 --> 00:14:46,384
in the house.

523
00:14:46,518 --> 00:14:48,219
They simply shot ernest

524
00:14:48,354 --> 00:14:48,953
and fled.

525
00:14:49,088 --> 00:14:50,588
This appeared to have been

526
00:14:50,723 --> 00:14:51,856
something personal.

527
00:14:51,991 --> 00:14:53,725
This was an intentional murder

528
00:14:53,859 --> 00:14:56,928
that was targeting ernest smith

529
00:14:57,062 --> 00:14:58,796
for a reason that we didn't know

530
00:14:58,931 --> 00:14:59,564
at the time.

531
00:14:59,698 --> 00:15:01,032
>> law enforcement typically

532
00:15:01,166 --> 00:15:02,400
begins an investigation by

533
00:15:02,534 --> 00:15:04,035
looking into the victim's spouse

534
00:15:04,169 --> 00:15:05,703
and whoever was last seen with

535
00:15:05,838 --> 00:15:06,137
him.

536
00:15:06,272 --> 00:15:07,805
In this case, it was his wife,

537
00:15:07,940 --> 00:15:09,374
emma, and his friend donald.

538
00:15:09,508 --> 00:15:10,909
>> donald williams was with

539
00:15:11,043 --> 00:15:12,644
ernest moments before ernest was

540
00:15:12,778 --> 00:15:14,212
shot, but he returned to the

541
00:15:14,346 --> 00:15:15,813
scene only when emma had told

542
00:15:15,948 --> 00:15:17,415
him what had happened, and he

543
00:15:17,549 --> 00:15:20,051
genuinely seemed distraught.

544
00:15:20,185 --> 00:15:21,619
>> I just don't think they had

545
00:15:21,754 --> 00:15:23,221
any reason to suspect him other

546
00:15:23,355 --> 00:15:25,556
than his presence at the scene.

547
00:15:25,691 --> 00:15:27,659
>> narrator: As day breaks,

548
00:15:27,793 --> 00:15:28,993
with no other witnesses,

549
00:15:29,128 --> 00:15:30,428
investigators reach out to

550
00:15:30,562 --> 00:15:31,996
ernest and emma's friends and

551
00:15:32,131 --> 00:15:33,631
family to learn more about the

552
00:15:33,766 --> 00:15:35,900
couple's relationship.

553
00:15:36,035 --> 00:15:37,068
>> they looked like the perfect

554
00:15:37,202 --> 00:15:38,069
couple.

555
00:15:38,203 --> 00:15:39,370
>> nobody was aware of any

556
00:15:39,505 --> 00:15:40,204
marital strife.

557
00:15:40,339 --> 00:15:41,739
>> by all accounts, they were a

558
00:15:41,874 --> 00:15:43,574
loving couple who put god at the

559
00:15:43,709 --> 00:15:45,410
forefront of their relationship.

560
00:15:45,544 --> 00:15:46,744
>> emma was absolutely

561
00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:48,413
devastated to lose ernest.

562
00:15:48,547 --> 00:15:50,148
>> she was a grieving widow.

563
00:15:50,282 --> 00:15:51,282
She's suffering.

564
00:15:51,417 --> 00:15:53,151
>> everybody, you know, really

565
00:15:53,285 --> 00:15:56,020
sympathized with her loss.

566
00:15:56,322 --> 00:16:00,258
>> narrator: With both emma and
donald williams seeming like
implausible suspects,

567
00:16:00,260 --> 00:16:02,293
donald williams seeming like
implausible suspects,
investigators wonder -- is it

568
00:16:02,295 --> 00:16:03,761
implausible suspects,
investigators wonder -- is it
possible there was someone else

569
00:16:03,763 --> 00:16:05,229
investigators wonder -- is it
possible there was someone else
in ernest's life who might want

570
00:16:05,231 --> 00:16:06,097
possible there was someone else
in ernest's life who might want
to harm him?

571
00:16:06,099 --> 00:16:07,832
In ernest's life who might want
to harm him?
But that angle proves to be a

572
00:16:07,834 --> 00:16:08,967
to harm him?
But that angle proves to be a
dead end as well.

573
00:16:08,969 --> 00:16:10,868
But that angle proves to be a
dead end as well.
>> I didn't know him to have any

574
00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:12,470
dead end as well.
>> I didn't know him to have any
enemies.

575
00:16:12,472 --> 00:16:14,472
>> I didn't know him to have any
enemies.
>> he was a true man of god.

576
00:16:14,474 --> 00:16:16,374
Enemies.
>> he was a true man of god.
>> narrator: With no viable

577
00:16:16,376 --> 00:16:18,443
>> he was a true man of god.
>> narrator: With no viable
suspects and no apparent motive,

578
00:16:18,445 --> 00:16:20,411
>> narrator: With no viable
suspects and no apparent motive,
the case goes cold and takes a

579
00:16:20,413 --> 00:16:21,946
suspects and no apparent motive,
the case goes cold and takes a
back burner to the hundreds of

580
00:16:21,948 --> 00:16:23,114
the case goes cold and takes a
back burner to the hundreds of
other cases inundating

581
00:16:23,116 --> 00:16:25,216
back burner to the hundreds of
other cases inundating
new orleans law enforcement.

582
00:16:25,218 --> 00:16:27,352
Other cases inundating
new orleans law enforcement.
>> after katrina, the police

583
00:16:27,354 --> 00:16:29,187
new orleans law enforcement.
>> after katrina, the police
department was short 200

584
00:16:29,189 --> 00:16:31,489
>> after katrina, the police
department was short 200
officers, and the officers that

585
00:16:31,491 --> 00:16:32,623
department was short 200
officers, and the officers that
they did have were being

586
00:16:32,625 --> 00:16:33,458
officers, and the officers that
they did have were being
overworked.

587
00:16:33,460 --> 00:16:35,360
They did have were being
overworked.
The city was in such a complete

588
00:16:35,362 --> 00:16:37,261
overworked.
The city was in such a complete
disarray that this was just

589
00:16:37,263 --> 00:16:39,163
the city was in such a complete
disarray that this was just
another tragedy on top of a

590
00:16:39,165 --> 00:16:41,399
disarray that this was just
another tragedy on top of a
million and one other tragedies.

591
00:16:41,401 --> 00:16:43,234
Another tragedy on top of a
million and one other tragedies.
>> narrator: With ernest's

592
00:16:43,236 --> 00:16:44,936
million and one other tragedies.
>> narrator: With ernest's
murder now a cold case, his

593
00:16:44,938 --> 00:16:46,671
>> narrator: With ernest's
murder now a cold case, his
widow, emma, struggles to find

594
00:16:46,673 --> 00:16:47,372
murder now a cold case, his
widow, emma, struggles to find
closure.

595
00:16:47,374 --> 00:16:49,273
Widow, emma, struggles to find
closure.
>> in the aftermath of ernest's

596
00:16:49,275 --> 00:16:50,541
closure.
>> in the aftermath of ernest's
death, emma stayed in

597
00:16:50,543 --> 00:16:52,110
>> in the aftermath of ernest's
death, emma stayed in
new orleans and continued to

598
00:16:52,112 --> 00:16:52,610
death, emma stayed in
new orleans and continued to
work.

599
00:16:52,612 --> 00:16:54,345
New orleans and continued to
work.
And during that time, she found

600
00:16:54,347 --> 00:16:56,114
work.
And during that time, she found
a confidante, someone who gave

601
00:16:56,116 --> 00:16:57,482
and during that time, she found
a confidante, someone who gave
her emotional support.

602
00:16:57,484 --> 00:16:58,916
A confidante, someone who gave
her emotional support.
His name was james raine.

603
00:16:58,918 --> 00:17:00,385
Her emotional support.
His name was james raine.
>> james raine was one of

604
00:17:00,387 --> 00:17:01,886
his name was james raine.
>> james raine was one of
ernest's oldest friends.

605
00:17:01,888 --> 00:17:03,688
>> james raine was one of
ernest's oldest friends.
>> it made sense that ernest's

606
00:17:03,690 --> 00:17:05,523
ernest's oldest friends.
>> it made sense that ernest's
close friend and his wife would

607
00:17:05,525 --> 00:17:07,792
>> it made sense that ernest's
close friend and his wife would
console each other after his

608
00:17:07,794 --> 00:17:08,559
close friend and his wife would
console each other after his
death.

609
00:17:08,561 --> 00:17:11,062
Console each other after his
death.
>> narrator: By 2008, 2 years

610
00:17:11,064 --> 00:17:12,864
death.
>> narrator: By 2008, 2 years
after the death of ernest, james

611
00:17:12,866 --> 00:17:14,665
>> narrator: By 2008, 2 years
after the death of ernest, james
and emma were not only an item,

612
00:17:14,667 --> 00:17:16,467
after the death of ernest, james
and emma were not only an item,
they were also ready to take the

613
00:17:16,469 --> 00:17:18,136
and emma were not only an item,
they were also ready to take the
next step together.

614
00:17:18,138 --> 00:17:20,405
They were also ready to take the
next step together.
>> james and emma decided to

615
00:17:20,407 --> 00:17:22,073
next step together.
>> james and emma decided to
get married, and she changed her

616
00:17:22,075 --> 00:17:23,107
>> james and emma decided to
get married, and she changed her
name to emma raine.

617
00:17:23,109 --> 00:17:24,409
Get married, and she changed her
name to emma raine.
>> narrator: Though some

618
00:17:24,411 --> 00:17:26,010
name to emma raine.
>> narrator: Though some
might've viewed emma's marriage

619
00:17:26,012 --> 00:17:27,412
>> narrator: Though some
might've viewed emma's marriage
to james as a bit hasty,

620
00:17:27,414 --> 00:17:28,980
might've viewed emma's marriage
to james as a bit hasty,
ernest's friends and fellow

621
00:17:28,982 --> 00:17:30,681
to james as a bit hasty,
ernest's friends and fellow
churchgoers were delighted she

622
00:17:30,683 --> 00:17:32,717
ernest's friends and fellow
churchgoers were delighted she
once again found happiness.

623
00:17:32,719 --> 00:17:35,086
Churchgoers were delighted she
once again found happiness.
>> you can't tell folks how long

624
00:17:35,088 --> 00:17:36,721
once again found happiness.
>> you can't tell folks how long
to grieve.

625
00:17:36,723 --> 00:17:38,523
>> you can't tell folks how long
to grieve.
So I thought it was all right

626
00:17:38,525 --> 00:17:39,690
to grieve.
So I thought it was all right
they got married.

627
00:17:39,692 --> 00:17:41,159
So I thought it was all right
they got married.
>> I was happy for her.

628
00:17:41,161 --> 00:17:42,860
They got married.
>> I was happy for her.
>> narrator: After ernest's

629
00:17:42,862 --> 00:17:44,262
>> I was happy for her.
>> narrator: After ernest's
murder, emma's children had

630
00:17:44,264 --> 00:17:45,763
>> narrator: After ernest's
murder, emma's children had
remained in poplarville with

631
00:17:45,765 --> 00:17:47,632
murder, emma's children had
remained in poplarville with
their grandparents, and in 2008,

632
00:17:47,634 --> 00:17:49,600
remained in poplarville with
their grandparents, and in 2008,
emma asked james to move back to

633
00:17:49,602 --> 00:17:51,469
their grandparents, and in 2008,
emma asked james to move back to
poplarville to be closer to her

634
00:17:51,471 --> 00:17:52,403
emma asked james to move back to
poplarville to be closer to her
children.

635
00:17:52,405 --> 00:17:54,105
Poplarville to be closer to her
children.
James obliged wholeheartedly.

636
00:17:54,107 --> 00:17:55,940
Children.
James obliged wholeheartedly.
>> they were happy, they were in

637
00:17:55,942 --> 00:17:57,375
james obliged wholeheartedly.
>> they were happy, they were in
love, and they were very

638
00:17:57,377 --> 00:17:58,309
>> they were happy, they were in
love, and they were very
successful.

639
00:17:58,610 --> 00:18:02,113
>> she had a tax business.
James was an excellent mechanic.

640
00:18:02,115 --> 00:18:04,015
James was an excellent mechanic.
>> narrator: With their careers

641
00:18:04,017 --> 00:18:05,483
>> narrator: With their careers
flourishing, the couple soon

642
00:18:05,485 --> 00:18:07,752
flourishing, the couple soon
builds the home of their dreams.

643
00:18:07,754 --> 00:18:10,221
Builds the home of their dreams.
>> it was close to 4,500- to

644
00:18:10,223 --> 00:18:11,989
>> it was close to 4,500- to
5,000-square-foot home.

645
00:18:12,291 --> 00:18:17,728
>> the decor was exquisite.
It was elaborate.
Had a private pond, a pool.

646
00:18:17,730 --> 00:18:19,430
It was elaborate.
Had a private pond, a pool.
>> it was just wonderful.

647
00:18:19,432 --> 00:18:21,065
Had a private pond, a pool.
>> it was just wonderful.
It's a house you could die in,

648
00:18:21,067 --> 00:18:21,732
>> it was just wonderful.
It's a house you could die in,
you know?

649
00:18:21,734 --> 00:18:23,367
It's a house you could die in,
you know?
>> narrator: And in October of

650
00:18:23,369 --> 00:18:25,770
you know?
>> narrator: And in October of
2011, that's exactly what

651
00:18:25,772 --> 00:18:28,072
>> narrator: And in October of
2011, that's exactly what
happened.

652
00:18:28,074 --> 00:18:29,774
2011, that's exactly what
happened.
>> [ screams ]

653
00:18:29,776 --> 00:18:31,142
happened.
>> [ screams ]
>> someone was murdered in that

654
00:18:31,144 --> 00:18:31,542
>> [ screams ]
>> someone was murdered in that
house.

655
00:18:31,544 --> 00:18:32,810
>> someone was murdered in that
house.
>> they were not thinking in

656
00:18:32,812 --> 00:18:34,011
house.
>> they were not thinking in
their wildest dreams that

657
00:18:34,013 --> 00:18:35,313
>> they were not thinking in
their wildest dreams that
somebody would be capable of

658
00:18:35,315 --> 00:18:36,581
their wildest dreams that
somebody would be capable of
something like this.

659
00:18:36,583 --> 00:18:38,182
Somebody would be capable of
something like this.
>> this can't be happening

660
00:18:38,184 --> 00:18:40,518
something like this.
>> this can't be happening
again.

661
00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,954
>> this can't be happening
again.
♪

662
00:18:44,756 --> 00:18:50,695
>> narrator: In April of 2006,
aspiring pastor ernest smith was
gunned down in the doorway of

663
00:18:50,697 --> 00:18:52,363
aspiring pastor ernest smith was
gunned down in the doorway of
a new orleans townhouse.

664
00:18:52,365 --> 00:18:54,365
Gunned down in the doorway of
a new orleans townhouse.
In the wake of the murder, his

665
00:18:54,367 --> 00:18:56,000
a new orleans townhouse.
In the wake of the murder, his
grieving widow, emma, found

666
00:18:56,002 --> 00:18:57,702
in the wake of the murder, his
grieving widow, emma, found
solace in the arms of one of

667
00:18:57,704 --> 00:18:59,570
grieving widow, emma, found
solace in the arms of one of
ernest's closest friends,

668
00:18:59,572 --> 00:19:01,639
solace in the arms of one of
ernest's closest friends,
james raine.

669
00:19:01,641 --> 00:19:02,974
Ernest's closest friends,
james raine.
>> james and emma were two

670
00:19:02,976 --> 00:19:04,442
james raine.
>> james and emma were two
people grieving the loss of a

671
00:19:04,444 --> 00:19:05,343
>> james and emma were two
people grieving the loss of a
loved one.

672
00:19:05,644 --> 00:19:07,812
He was consoling her, and she

673
00:19:07,946 --> 00:19:08,846
was consoling him.

674
00:19:08,981 --> 00:19:10,448
They were so attracted to each

675
00:19:10,582 --> 00:19:12,049
other that eventually they got

676
00:19:12,184 --> 00:19:12,617
married.

677
00:19:12,751 --> 00:19:14,085
>> after they were married,

678
00:19:14,219 --> 00:19:15,720
they moved from new orleans.

679
00:19:15,854 --> 00:19:17,522
Her and james built a home from

680
00:19:17,656 --> 00:19:19,223
the ground up in poplarville,

681
00:19:19,358 --> 00:19:20,091
mississippi.

682
00:19:20,225 --> 00:19:21,826
>> it seems like she has moved

683
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,562
on from the ernest smith murder.

684
00:19:24,863 --> 00:19:29,667
>> narrator: But just as her
life was back on track, it would
be blown apart by yet another

685
00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:31,035
life was back on track, it would
be blown apart by yet another
tragedy.

686
00:19:31,037 --> 00:19:32,670
Be blown apart by yet another
tragedy.
It starts on the afternoon of

687
00:19:32,672 --> 00:19:35,339
tragedy.
It starts on the afternoon of
October 21, 2011.

688
00:19:35,341 --> 00:19:37,542
It starts on the afternoon of
October 21, 2011.
>> emma is out of town for

689
00:19:37,544 --> 00:19:41,312
October 21, 2011.
>> emma is out of town for
business, and then she calls

690
00:19:41,314 --> 00:19:43,181
>> emma is out of town for
business, and then she calls
james raine's mother and tells

691
00:19:43,183 --> 00:19:44,415
business, and then she calls
james raine's mother and tells
her, "I haven't heard from

692
00:19:44,417 --> 00:19:44,849
james raine's mother and tells
her, "I haven't heard from
james.

693
00:19:44,851 --> 00:19:47,018
Her, "I haven't heard from
james.
He hasn't returned my calls."

694
00:19:47,319 --> 00:19:48,452
>> "I'm worried some.

695
00:19:48,587 --> 00:19:50,121
I can't get him on the phone.

696
00:19:50,255 --> 00:19:51,856
Could you go up there and tell

697
00:19:51,990 --> 00:19:53,491
him I'm trying to get in touch

698
00:19:53,625 --> 00:19:54,392
with him?"

699
00:19:54,693 --> 00:19:58,396
>> narrator: A few minutes
later, james's mother enters the
home.

700
00:19:58,398 --> 00:20:00,164
Later, james's mother enters the
home.
>> james! It's mom!

701
00:20:00,166 --> 00:20:02,300
Home.
>> james! It's mom!
>> the master bedroom was on the

702
00:20:02,302 --> 00:20:03,634
>> james! It's mom!
>> the master bedroom was on the
first floor.

703
00:20:03,636 --> 00:20:04,735
>> the master bedroom was on the
first floor.
>> james?

704
00:20:04,737 --> 00:20:06,671
First floor.
>> james?
>> she rushed up partially the

705
00:20:06,673 --> 00:20:09,941
>> james?
>> she rushed up partially the
way up in there.

706
00:20:09,943 --> 00:20:12,376
>> she rushed up partially the
way up in there.
>> [ screams ]

707
00:20:12,378 --> 00:20:14,779
way up in there.
>> [ screams ]
>> she saw james -- a trauma to

708
00:20:14,781 --> 00:20:17,215
>> [ screams ]
>> she saw james -- a trauma to
his body -- and so she runs back

709
00:20:17,217 --> 00:20:19,517
>> she saw james -- a trauma to
his body -- and so she runs back
out.

710
00:20:19,519 --> 00:20:21,452
His body -- and so she runs back
out.
>> he was shot multiple times.

711
00:20:21,454 --> 00:20:23,487
Out.
>> he was shot multiple times.
It was the face, the chest, and

712
00:20:23,489 --> 00:20:24,589
>> he was shot multiple times.
It was the face, the chest, and
his mouth area.

713
00:20:24,591 --> 00:20:26,591
It was the face, the chest, and
his mouth area.
>> it's just something his mom

714
00:20:26,593 --> 00:20:28,559
his mouth area.
>> it's just something his mom
will never get over as long as

715
00:20:28,561 --> 00:20:29,927
>> it's just something his mom
will never get over as long as
she's still living.

716
00:20:29,929 --> 00:20:31,762
Will never get over as long as
she's still living.
>> narrator: James's mother

717
00:20:31,764 --> 00:20:33,698
she's still living.
>> narrator: James's mother
calls her other son, enoch, and

718
00:20:33,700 --> 00:20:35,733
>> narrator: James's mother
calls her other son, enoch, and
informs him of what's happened.

719
00:20:35,735 --> 00:20:37,068
Calls her other son, enoch, and
informs him of what's happened.
Enoch in turn notifies the

720
00:20:37,070 --> 00:20:38,669
informs him of what's happened.
Enoch in turn notifies the
sheriff's department, and within

721
00:20:38,671 --> 00:20:40,605
enoch in turn notifies the
sheriff's department, and within
the hour, homicide investigators

722
00:20:40,607 --> 00:20:42,240
sheriff's department, and within
the hour, homicide investigators
have arrived at the scene.

723
00:20:42,242 --> 00:20:43,341
The hour, homicide investigators
have arrived at the scene.
>> what do we have?

724
00:20:43,642 --> 00:20:44,875
>> from the moment detectives

725
00:20:45,010 --> 00:20:46,310
enter the master bedroom, it's

726
00:20:46,445 --> 00:20:47,778
clear that james raine had been

727
00:20:47,913 --> 00:20:49,880
shot execution-style while he

728
00:20:50,015 --> 00:20:52,216
was sleeping.

729
00:20:52,517 --> 00:20:58,256
[ gunshots ]
♪
>> james had never even gotten

730
00:20:58,258 --> 00:20:58,756
♪
>> james had never even gotten
out of bed.

731
00:20:58,758 --> 00:20:59,890
>> james had never even gotten
out of bed.
He's shot in the head and the

732
00:20:59,892 --> 00:21:00,491
out of bed.
He's shot in the head and the
neck.

733
00:21:00,493 --> 00:21:02,526
He's shot in the head and the
neck.
It's just very indicative that

734
00:21:02,528 --> 00:21:03,728
neck.
It's just very indicative that
somebody was coming in there

735
00:21:03,730 --> 00:21:04,962
it's just very indicative that
somebody was coming in there
with a mission, and it was to

736
00:21:04,964 --> 00:21:06,163
somebody was coming in there
with a mission, and it was to
kill james raine.

737
00:21:06,165 --> 00:21:08,165
With a mission, and it was to
kill james raine.
>> narrator: The execution-style

738
00:21:08,167 --> 00:21:09,567
kill james raine.
>> narrator: The execution-style
nature of the shooting isn't the

739
00:21:09,569 --> 00:21:10,868
>> narrator: The execution-style
nature of the shooting isn't the
only clue that the murder was

740
00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:12,036
nature of the shooting isn't the
only clue that the murder was
premeditated.

741
00:21:12,337 --> 00:21:13,204
>> the killer covered their

742
00:21:13,338 --> 00:21:14,138
tracks very well.

743
00:21:14,273 --> 00:21:15,640
There's very little in the way

744
00:21:15,774 --> 00:21:16,907
of physical evidence left

745
00:21:17,042 --> 00:21:17,808
behind.

746
00:21:18,110 --> 00:21:21,078
>> the house was wired with
security cameras all over the
place.

747
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,580
Security cameras all over the
place.
But just so happened that the

748
00:21:22,582 --> 00:21:23,948
place.
But just so happened that the
system was down during the

749
00:21:23,950 --> 00:21:24,482
but just so happened that the
system was down during the
murder.

750
00:21:24,484 --> 00:21:26,050
System was down during the
murder.
>> narrator: But who would want

751
00:21:26,052 --> 00:21:28,219
murder.
>> narrator: But who would want
to murder james raine?

752
00:21:28,221 --> 00:21:29,520
>> narrator: But who would want
to murder james raine?
To answer that question,

753
00:21:29,522 --> 00:21:30,921
to murder james raine?
To answer that question,
detectives turn to james's

754
00:21:30,923 --> 00:21:31,489
to answer that question,
detectives turn to james's
family.

755
00:21:31,491 --> 00:21:32,957
Detectives turn to james's
family.
>> we're, uh, sorry for your

756
00:21:32,959 --> 00:21:33,424
family.
>> we're, uh, sorry for your
loss.

757
00:21:33,426 --> 00:21:35,092
>> we're, uh, sorry for your
loss.
We just have a few questions for

758
00:21:35,094 --> 00:21:35,493
loss.
We just have a few questions for
you.

759
00:21:35,495 --> 00:21:36,861
We just have a few questions for
you.
>> the family states that

760
00:21:36,863 --> 00:21:38,296
you.
>> the family states that
despite this gorgeous new house

761
00:21:38,298 --> 00:21:39,563
>> the family states that
despite this gorgeous new house
and this fresh beginning in

762
00:21:39,565 --> 00:21:41,332
despite this gorgeous new house
and this fresh beginning in
poplarville, james and emma's

763
00:21:41,334 --> 00:21:42,800
and this fresh beginning in
poplarville, james and emma's
relationship was on the rocks

764
00:21:42,802 --> 00:21:43,968
poplarville, james and emma's
relationship was on the rocks
the past couple months.

765
00:21:43,970 --> 00:21:45,436
Relationship was on the rocks
the past couple months.
>> the passion that they once

766
00:21:45,438 --> 00:21:47,238
the past couple months.
>> the passion that they once
had in their marriage kind of

767
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,005
>> the passion that they once
had in their marriage kind of
went out.

768
00:21:48,007 --> 00:21:49,907
Had in their marriage kind of
went out.
>> james raine and her start to

769
00:21:49,909 --> 00:21:50,941
went out.
>> james raine and her start to
have some trouble.

770
00:21:50,943 --> 00:21:52,543
>> james raine and her start to
have some trouble.
He gets an idea that he may not

771
00:21:52,545 --> 00:21:53,944
have some trouble.
He gets an idea that he may not
be the king of that castle

772
00:21:53,946 --> 00:21:54,512
he gets an idea that he may not
be the king of that castle
anymore.

773
00:21:54,514 --> 00:21:56,180
Be the king of that castle
anymore.
He was suspicious that she might

774
00:21:56,182 --> 00:21:57,948
anymore.
He was suspicious that she might
be seeking men elsewhere.

775
00:21:57,950 --> 00:21:59,750
He was suspicious that she might
be seeking men elsewhere.
>> narrator: According to

776
00:21:59,752 --> 00:22:01,886
be seeking men elsewhere.
>> narrator: According to
james's family, james was right

777
00:22:01,888 --> 00:22:03,554
>> narrator: According to
james's family, james was right
to be suspicious of emma's

778
00:22:03,556 --> 00:22:05,589
james's family, james was right
to be suspicious of emma's
fidelity, especially considering

779
00:22:05,591 --> 00:22:07,425
to be suspicious of emma's
fidelity, especially considering
an incident his brother, enoch,

780
00:22:07,427 --> 00:22:09,460
fidelity, especially considering
an incident his brother, enoch,
witnessed a few years earlier.

781
00:22:09,761 --> 00:22:11,762
>> emma and james -- I saw them

782
00:22:11,897 --> 00:22:13,964
two in the house kissing and

783
00:22:14,099 --> 00:22:14,999
hugging.

784
00:22:15,133 --> 00:22:17,368
This was a mouth-to-mouth kiss.

785
00:22:17,502 --> 00:22:19,170
It was a passionate kiss.

786
00:22:19,471 --> 00:22:24,008
>> hey! What are y'all doing?
>> narrator: There was just one
big problem with that scene.

787
00:22:24,010 --> 00:22:27,211
>> narrator: There was just one
big problem with that scene.
>> she was married to ernest.

788
00:22:27,213 --> 00:22:28,546
Big problem with that scene.
>> she was married to ernest.
>> he was shocked and kind of

789
00:22:28,548 --> 00:22:30,047
>> she was married to ernest.
>> he was shocked and kind of
appalled that they were kissing

790
00:22:30,049 --> 00:22:31,549
>> he was shocked and kind of
appalled that they were kissing
when he was right in the house.

791
00:22:31,551 --> 00:22:33,117
Appalled that they were kissing
when he was right in the house.
>> man, ernest would kill you if

792
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,251
when he was right in the house.
>> man, ernest would kill you if
he caught you up here.

793
00:22:34,253 --> 00:22:36,320
>> man, ernest would kill you if
he caught you up here.
I'm like, you know, "you

794
00:22:36,322 --> 00:22:38,923
he caught you up here.
I'm like, you know, "you
flirtin' with death kissing like

795
00:22:38,925 --> 00:22:40,891
I'm like, you know, "you
flirtin' with death kissing like
this in his house."

796
00:22:40,893 --> 00:22:41,859
flirtin' with death kissing like
this in his house."
>> bro, this is none of your

797
00:22:41,861 --> 00:22:42,259
this in his house."
>> bro, this is none of your
business!

798
00:22:42,261 --> 00:22:45,529
>> bro, this is none of your
business!
Leave, man!

799
00:22:45,531 --> 00:22:46,997
Business!
Leave, man!
>> narrator: Enoch tells police

800
00:22:46,999 --> 00:22:48,399
leave, man!
>> narrator: Enoch tells police
that james and emma continued

801
00:22:48,401 --> 00:22:49,600
>> narrator: Enoch tells police
that james and emma continued
their affair right under

802
00:22:49,602 --> 00:22:51,402
that james and emma continued
their affair right under
ernest's nose.

803
00:22:51,404 --> 00:22:53,037
Their affair right under
ernest's nose.
But eventually, it caught up

804
00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:54,872
ernest's nose.
But eventually, it caught up
with them.

805
00:22:54,874 --> 00:22:57,108
But eventually, it caught up
with them.
>> james was confronted by

806
00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:59,510
with them.
>> james was confronted by
ernest, and they had a heated

807
00:22:59,512 --> 00:23:01,812
>> james was confronted by
ernest, and they had a heated
argument over him having an

808
00:23:01,814 --> 00:23:03,214
ernest, and they had a heated
argument over him having an
affair with his wife.

809
00:23:03,216 --> 00:23:05,015
Argument over him having an
affair with his wife.
>> he said stay away from his

810
00:23:05,017 --> 00:23:05,549
affair with his wife.
>> he said stay away from his
wife.

811
00:23:05,551 --> 00:23:07,051
>> he said stay away from his
wife.
>> he wanted out of the

812
00:23:07,053 --> 00:23:07,785
wife.
>> he wanted out of the
marriage.

813
00:23:07,787 --> 00:23:09,587
>> he wanted out of the
marriage.
>> narrator: The family says

814
00:23:09,589 --> 00:23:11,188
marriage.
>> narrator: The family says
after ernest received the offer

815
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:12,656
>> narrator: The family says
after ernest received the offer
to be the pastor at the mega

816
00:23:12,658 --> 00:23:14,191
after ernest received the offer
to be the pastor at the mega
church in atlanta, he decided

817
00:23:14,193 --> 00:23:15,793
to be the pastor at the mega
church in atlanta, he decided
that divorcing emma wouldn't be

818
00:23:15,795 --> 00:23:17,128
church in atlanta, he decided
that divorcing emma wouldn't be
in his best interest.

819
00:23:17,130 --> 00:23:18,829
That divorcing emma wouldn't be
in his best interest.
>> it wouldn't look good with

820
00:23:18,831 --> 00:23:20,664
in his best interest.
>> it wouldn't look good with
you getting a church and you're

821
00:23:20,666 --> 00:23:22,333
>> it wouldn't look good with
you getting a church and you're
not with your wife.

822
00:23:22,335 --> 00:23:24,835
You getting a church and you're
not with your wife.
>> because of his faith in god,

823
00:23:24,837 --> 00:23:26,570
not with your wife.
>> because of his faith in god,
he decided to stay and try to

824
00:23:26,572 --> 00:23:27,471
>> because of his faith in god,
he decided to stay and try to
work it out.

825
00:23:27,473 --> 00:23:29,240
He decided to stay and try to
work it out.
>> narrator: Ernest ultimately

826
00:23:29,242 --> 00:23:30,908
work it out.
>> narrator: Ernest ultimately
accepted emma back, but not

827
00:23:30,910 --> 00:23:32,643
>> narrator: Ernest ultimately
accepted emma back, but not
before he sent his old friend

828
00:23:32,645 --> 00:23:34,578
accepted emma back, but not
before he sent his old friend
james a stern warning.

829
00:23:34,580 --> 00:23:35,880
Before he sent his old friend
james a stern warning.
>> james, quick-tempered --

830
00:23:35,882 --> 00:23:37,148
james a stern warning.
>> james, quick-tempered --
"you don't be saying this.

831
00:23:37,150 --> 00:23:38,482
>> james, quick-tempered --
"you don't be saying this.
You don't be threatening me,

832
00:23:38,484 --> 00:23:39,850
"you don't be saying this.
You don't be threatening me,
telling me what you gonna do to

833
00:23:39,852 --> 00:23:40,184
you don't be threatening me,
telling me what you gonna do to
me."

834
00:23:40,186 --> 00:23:41,552
telling me what you gonna do to
me."
>> narrator: Enoch tells police

835
00:23:41,554 --> 00:23:42,920
me."
>> narrator: Enoch tells police
that it was just months after

836
00:23:42,922 --> 00:23:44,155
>> narrator: Enoch tells police
that it was just months after
this confrontation between

837
00:23:44,157 --> 00:23:46,457
that it was just months after
this confrontation between
ernest and james that ernest

838
00:23:46,459 --> 00:23:47,825
this confrontation between
ernest and james that ernest
ended up dead.

839
00:23:47,827 --> 00:23:50,461
Ernest and james that ernest
ended up dead.
>> it wasn't long after ernest's

840
00:23:50,463 --> 00:23:53,097
ended up dead.
>> it wasn't long after ernest's
death, maybe a couple weeks, she

841
00:23:53,099 --> 00:23:54,899
>> it wasn't long after ernest's
death, maybe a couple weeks, she
moves in with james.

842
00:23:54,901 --> 00:23:57,301
Death, maybe a couple weeks, she
moves in with james.
People speculating, gossiping --

843
00:23:57,303 --> 00:23:59,603
moves in with james.
People speculating, gossiping --
did james have something to do

844
00:23:59,605 --> 00:24:00,237
people speculating, gossiping --
did james have something to do
with that?

845
00:24:00,239 --> 00:24:01,605
Did james have something to do
with that?
>> I ask him -- did he have

846
00:24:01,607 --> 00:24:02,873
with that?
>> I ask him -- did he have
anything to do with ernest's

847
00:24:02,875 --> 00:24:03,307
>> I ask him -- did he have
anything to do with ernest's
murder.

848
00:24:03,309 --> 00:24:04,508
Anything to do with ernest's
murder.
He was emphatic about it.

849
00:24:04,510 --> 00:24:05,876
Murder.
He was emphatic about it.
They didn't have anything to do

850
00:24:05,878 --> 00:24:06,377
he was emphatic about it.
They didn't have anything to do
with it.

851
00:24:06,379 --> 00:24:09,213
They didn't have anything to do
with it.
James was my nephew, and we was

852
00:24:09,215 --> 00:24:10,648
with it.
James was my nephew, and we was
close.

853
00:24:10,650 --> 00:24:12,550
James was my nephew, and we was
close.
I had no reason to think that he

854
00:24:12,552 --> 00:24:13,117
close.
I had no reason to think that he
was lying.

855
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,518
I had no reason to think that he
was lying.
>> narrator: But now that james

856
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:15,820
was lying.
>> narrator: But now that james
has been murdered in a manner

857
00:24:15,822 --> 00:24:17,621
>> narrator: But now that james
has been murdered in a manner
similar to ernest, his family

858
00:24:17,623 --> 00:24:19,657
has been murdered in a manner
similar to ernest, his family
worries that it's more than just

859
00:24:19,659 --> 00:24:20,958
similar to ernest, his family
worries that it's more than just
bad luck.

860
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,793
Worries that it's more than just
bad luck.
>> after james's murder, we

861
00:24:22,795 --> 00:24:24,662
bad luck.
>> after james's murder, we
started having family meetings.

862
00:24:24,664 --> 00:24:26,530
>> after james's murder, we
started having family meetings.
Whatever information people can

863
00:24:26,532 --> 00:24:28,299
started having family meetings.
Whatever information people can
give us to where we can start

864
00:24:28,301 --> 00:24:30,234
whatever information people can
give us to where we can start
putting the pieces of the puzzle

865
00:24:30,236 --> 00:24:32,136
give us to where we can start
putting the pieces of the puzzle
together to try and solve

866
00:24:32,138 --> 00:24:33,404
putting the pieces of the puzzle
together to try and solve
james's murder.

867
00:24:33,406 --> 00:24:35,606
Together to try and solve
james's murder.
I said, "something's not right

868
00:24:35,608 --> 00:24:36,307
james's murder.
I said, "something's not right
there."

869
00:24:36,309 --> 00:24:38,476
I said, "something's not right
there."
>> it's not coincidence that you

870
00:24:38,478 --> 00:24:40,311
there."
>> it's not coincidence that you
have two husbands murdered.

871
00:24:40,313 --> 00:24:42,012
>> it's not coincidence that you
have two husbands murdered.
>> narrator: Back at the

872
00:24:42,014 --> 00:24:43,247
have two husbands murdered.
>> narrator: Back at the
station, poplarville

873
00:24:43,249 --> 00:24:44,715
>> narrator: Back at the
station, poplarville
investigators are equally

874
00:24:44,717 --> 00:24:45,483
station, poplarville
investigators are equally
suspicious.

875
00:24:45,485 --> 00:24:47,251
Investigators are equally
suspicious.
But at this point, there's zero

876
00:24:47,253 --> 00:24:48,886
suspicious.
But at this point, there's zero
evidence proving emma killed

877
00:24:48,888 --> 00:24:51,822
but at this point, there's zero
evidence proving emma killed
either ernest or james.

878
00:24:51,824 --> 00:24:53,023
Evidence proving emma killed
either ernest or james.
>> yes, is this emma?

879
00:24:53,325 --> 00:24:54,758
>> when james raine was killed,

880
00:24:54,893 --> 00:24:56,694
she had been in arkansas on

881
00:24:56,828 --> 00:24:57,595
business.

882
00:24:57,896 --> 00:25:01,699
>> they spoke with her,
confirming that she was indeed
in arkansas at the time.

883
00:25:01,701 --> 00:25:03,234
Confirming that she was indeed
in arkansas at the time.
But now that they had her on the

884
00:25:03,236 --> 00:25:04,735
in arkansas at the time.
But now that they had her on the
phone, investigators had to tell

885
00:25:04,737 --> 00:25:05,903
but now that they had her on the
phone, investigators had to tell
her that james had been

886
00:25:05,905 --> 00:25:07,338
phone, investigators had to tell
her that james had been
murdered.

887
00:25:07,340 --> 00:25:08,873
Her that james had been
murdered.
>> no, no!

888
00:25:08,875 --> 00:25:10,274
Murdered.
>> no, no!
>> when they tell emma that

889
00:25:10,276 --> 00:25:11,675
>> no, no!
>> when they tell emma that
james is dead, she seems

890
00:25:11,677 --> 00:25:13,477
>> when they tell emma that
james is dead, she seems
devastated and immediately drops

891
00:25:13,479 --> 00:25:15,145
james is dead, she seems
devastated and immediately drops
what she's doing to return to

892
00:25:15,147 --> 00:25:15,980
devastated and immediately drops
what she's doing to return to
poplarville.

893
00:25:15,982 --> 00:25:17,448
What she's doing to return to
poplarville.
>> narrator: The following

894
00:25:17,450 --> 00:25:19,250
poplarville.
>> narrator: The following
morning, investigators interview

895
00:25:19,252 --> 00:25:20,918
>> narrator: The following
morning, investigators interview
emma at the pearl river county

896
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,554
morning, investigators interview
emma at the pearl river county
sheriff's department.

897
00:25:23,556 --> 00:25:25,322
Emma at the pearl river county
sheriff's department.
>> so, it's just a coincidence

898
00:25:25,324 --> 00:25:27,191
sheriff's department.
>> so, it's just a coincidence
that you've had two husbands and

899
00:25:27,193 --> 00:25:28,592
>> so, it's just a coincidence
that you've had two husbands and
they've both been shot?

900
00:25:28,594 --> 00:25:29,660
That you've had two husbands and
they've both been shot?
>> it has to be.

901
00:25:29,662 --> 00:25:31,495
They've both been shot?
>> it has to be.
>> and you expect us to believe

902
00:25:31,497 --> 00:25:31,996
>> it has to be.
>> and you expect us to believe
that?

903
00:25:31,998 --> 00:25:32,563
>> and you expect us to believe
that?
>> yes!

904
00:25:32,565 --> 00:25:34,164
That?
>> yes!
>> they played hardball with

905
00:25:34,166 --> 00:25:35,966
>> yes!
>> they played hardball with
emma, but she never waivers from

906
00:25:35,968 --> 00:25:37,735
>> they played hardball with
emma, but she never waivers from
the claim that she is completely

907
00:25:37,737 --> 00:25:39,637
emma, but she never waivers from
the claim that she is completely
innocent and that this is all

908
00:25:39,639 --> 00:25:41,272
the claim that she is completely
innocent and that this is all
one horrible coincidence.

909
00:25:41,274 --> 00:25:43,340
Innocent and that this is all
one horrible coincidence.
>> narrator: Over the next year,

910
00:25:43,342 --> 00:25:45,009
one horrible coincidence.
>> narrator: Over the next year,
investigators fail to find any

911
00:25:45,011 --> 00:25:46,710
>> narrator: Over the next year,
investigators fail to find any
evidence that conclusively ties

912
00:25:46,712 --> 00:25:48,279
investigators fail to find any
evidence that conclusively ties
emma to the murder of either

913
00:25:48,281 --> 00:25:51,015
evidence that conclusively ties
emma to the murder of either
ernest smith or james raine.

914
00:25:51,017 --> 00:25:52,683
Emma to the murder of either
ernest smith or james raine.
>> even though police had

915
00:25:52,685 --> 00:25:54,418
ernest smith or james raine.
>> even though police had
suspicions, there was just not

916
00:25:54,420 --> 00:25:56,153
>> even though police had
suspicions, there was just not
enough evidence to connect her

917
00:25:56,155 --> 00:25:57,521
suspicions, there was just not
enough evidence to connect her
to both of the murders.

918
00:25:57,523 --> 00:25:59,056
Enough evidence to connect her
to both of the murders.
>> narrator: But soon, two

919
00:25:59,058 --> 00:26:00,824
to both of the murders.
>> narrator: But soon, two
witnesses will come forward and

920
00:26:00,826 --> 00:26:02,660
>> narrator: But soon, two
witnesses will come forward and
point the finger at a surprising

921
00:26:02,662 --> 00:26:03,794
witnesses will come forward and
point the finger at a surprising
new suspect.

922
00:26:03,796 --> 00:26:05,896
Point the finger at a surprising
new suspect.
>> his family turned on him.

923
00:26:05,898 --> 00:26:07,498
New suspect.
>> his family turned on him.
>> it was dead silence.

924
00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:09,833
>> his family turned on him.
>> it was dead silence.
We were shocked.

925
00:26:09,835 --> 00:26:12,536
>> it was dead silence.
We were shocked.
♪

926
00:26:15,507 --> 00:26:20,110
>> narrator: In the span of five
years, real-estate agent
emma raine had not one, but two

927
00:26:20,112 --> 00:26:21,745
years, real-estate agent
emma raine had not one, but two
husbands brutally murdered

928
00:26:21,747 --> 00:26:25,549
emma raine had not one, but two
husbands brutally murdered
inside their own home.

929
00:26:25,551 --> 00:26:27,084
Husbands brutally murdered
inside their own home.
With both men gunned down in

930
00:26:27,086 --> 00:26:28,752
inside their own home.
With both men gunned down in
similar fashions, investigators

931
00:26:28,754 --> 00:26:30,354
with both men gunned down in
similar fashions, investigators
wonder if the two murders are

932
00:26:30,356 --> 00:26:32,022
similar fashions, investigators
wonder if the two murders are
more than mere coincidence.

933
00:26:32,024 --> 00:26:33,591
Wonder if the two murders are
more than mere coincidence.
But there's zero physical

934
00:26:33,593 --> 00:26:35,459
more than mere coincidence.
But there's zero physical
evidence linking emma to either

935
00:26:35,461 --> 00:26:37,027
but there's zero physical
evidence linking emma to either
crime.

936
00:26:37,329 --> 00:26:38,829
>> just as ernest's case,

937
00:26:38,964 --> 00:26:40,664
james raine's case eventually

938
00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:42,132
froze cold.

939
00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:43,634
>> narrator: But then in

940
00:26:43,768 --> 00:26:45,970
March 2012, a call comes in to

941
00:26:46,104 --> 00:26:48,339
a new orleans cold-case unit.

942
00:26:48,473 --> 00:26:50,207
>> detective chambers.

943
00:26:50,342 --> 00:26:51,875
>> it's james raine's brother,

944
00:26:52,010 --> 00:26:53,110
enoch raine.

945
00:26:53,244 --> 00:26:55,245
>> enoch specifically asked for

946
00:26:55,380 --> 00:26:56,914
the cold-case detective

947
00:26:57,048 --> 00:26:57,915
decynda chambers.

948
00:26:58,049 --> 00:26:59,183
>> narrator: Enoch tells

949
00:26:59,317 --> 00:27:00,551
detective chambers he had

950
00:27:00,685 --> 00:27:01,752
recently seen her on a

951
00:27:01,886 --> 00:27:03,420
television program profiling

952
00:27:03,555 --> 00:27:04,922
cold cases and called her

953
00:27:05,056 --> 00:27:05,823
number.

954
00:27:05,957 --> 00:27:07,758
>> I catch a louisiana local

955
00:27:07,892 --> 00:27:09,560
news program where they're

956
00:27:09,694 --> 00:27:11,395
talking about a cold case.

957
00:27:11,529 --> 00:27:13,430
And miss chambers, she's pretty

958
00:27:13,565 --> 00:27:15,466
good with what she do for cold

959
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,533
cases.

960
00:27:16,835 --> 00:27:21,572
>> turns out, the information
that enoch has to share isn't
about his brother's case in

961
00:27:21,574 --> 00:27:22,506
that enoch has to share isn't
about his brother's case in
mississippi.

962
00:27:22,508 --> 00:27:24,074
About his brother's case in
mississippi.
>> I said, "we got some

963
00:27:24,076 --> 00:27:26,377
mississippi.
>> I said, "we got some
information into ernest smith

964
00:27:26,379 --> 00:27:27,845
>> I said, "we got some
information into ernest smith
murder."

965
00:27:27,847 --> 00:27:28,846
information into ernest smith
murder."
>> narrator: Later that

966
00:27:28,848 --> 00:27:30,614
murder."
>> narrator: Later that
afternoon, detective chambers

967
00:27:30,616 --> 00:27:32,349
>> narrator: Later that
afternoon, detective chambers
sits down with enoch and his

968
00:27:32,351 --> 00:27:34,051
afternoon, detective chambers
sits down with enoch and his
uncle william at her office.

969
00:27:34,053 --> 00:27:35,686
Sits down with enoch and his
uncle william at her office.
>> how did you come across

970
00:27:35,688 --> 00:27:36,487
uncle william at her office.
>> how did you come across
this information?

971
00:27:36,489 --> 00:27:37,621
>> how did you come across
this information?
>> well, we were actually

972
00:27:37,623 --> 00:27:38,856
this information?
>> well, we were actually
looking into the murder of my

973
00:27:38,858 --> 00:27:39,790
>> well, we were actually
looking into the murder of my
brother, james raine.

974
00:27:39,792 --> 00:27:41,358
Looking into the murder of my
brother, james raine.
>> narrator: According to enoch,

975
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:43,560
brother, james raine.
>> narrator: According to enoch,
not long after james's funeral

976
00:27:43,562 --> 00:27:45,729
>> narrator: According to enoch,
not long after james's funeral
in 2011, he and william sought

977
00:27:45,731 --> 00:27:47,798
not long after james's funeral
in 2011, he and william sought
out his 27-year-old adoptive

978
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,200
in 2011, he and william sought
out his 27-year-old adoptive
brother, alfred everette.

979
00:27:50,502 --> 00:27:53,103
>> alfred was adopted by james's

980
00:27:53,238 --> 00:27:55,272
mother at I think around

981
00:27:55,407 --> 00:27:56,640
13 years old.

982
00:27:56,775 --> 00:27:58,909
>> his mother had passed.

983
00:27:59,044 --> 00:28:00,644
>> james was still around the

984
00:28:00,779 --> 00:28:02,446
house when he came in, so they

985
00:28:02,580 --> 00:28:03,914
just spent a lot of time

986
00:28:04,049 --> 00:28:04,982
together.

987
00:28:05,116 --> 00:28:07,317
>> he looked up to james.

988
00:28:07,452 --> 00:28:08,652
They was real close.

989
00:28:08,787 --> 00:28:10,454
>> if anybody might have some

990
00:28:10,588 --> 00:28:12,623
insight into james's murder, it

991
00:28:12,757 --> 00:28:14,024
would be alfred.

992
00:28:14,325 --> 00:28:18,862
>> narrator: So according to
enoch, he and william decided to
ask alfred if he had any idea

993
00:28:18,864 --> 00:28:20,364
enoch, he and william decided to
ask alfred if he had any idea
who might want to harm their

994
00:28:20,366 --> 00:28:21,965
ask alfred if he had any idea
who might want to harm their
brother.

995
00:28:21,967 --> 00:28:22,966
Who might want to harm their
brother.
>> what's up, nephew?

996
00:28:22,968 --> 00:28:24,001
Brother.
>> what's up, nephew?
>> oh, what's up, huh?

997
00:28:24,003 --> 00:28:25,369
>> what's up, nephew?
>> oh, what's up, huh?
>> glad you could come through,

998
00:28:25,371 --> 00:28:25,703
>> oh, what's up, huh?
>> glad you could come through,
man.

999
00:28:25,705 --> 00:28:26,904
>> glad you could come through,
man.
>> yeah, good looking out,

1000
00:28:26,906 --> 00:28:27,705
man.
>> yeah, good looking out,
looking out.

1001
00:28:27,707 --> 00:28:28,939
>> yeah, good looking out,
looking out.
Man, what you think about all

1002
00:28:28,941 --> 00:28:32,643
looking out.
Man, what you think about all
this stuff going on with emma?

1003
00:28:32,645 --> 00:28:33,711
Man, what you think about all
this stuff going on with emma?
>> what you mean?

1004
00:28:33,713 --> 00:28:35,412
This stuff going on with emma?
>> what you mean?
>> man, you know what I mean.

1005
00:28:35,414 --> 00:28:36,880
>> what you mean?
>> man, you know what I mean.
First ernest gets shot in

1006
00:28:36,882 --> 00:28:38,248
>> man, you know what I mean.
First ernest gets shot in
new orleans, now james?

1007
00:28:38,250 --> 00:28:39,750
First ernest gets shot in
new orleans, now james?
Man, that's not a coincidence.

1008
00:28:39,752 --> 00:28:41,285
New orleans, now james?
Man, that's not a coincidence.
>> and that's when alfred just

1009
00:28:41,287 --> 00:28:42,019
man, that's not a coincidence.
>> and that's when alfred just
breaks down.

1010
00:28:42,021 --> 00:28:44,388
>> and that's when alfred just
breaks down.
>> he started getting nervous

1011
00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:46,156
breaks down.
>> he started getting nervous
and shaking, and he started

1012
00:28:46,158 --> 00:28:46,790
>> he started getting nervous
and shaking, and he started
crying.

1013
00:28:46,792 --> 00:28:47,725
And shaking, and he started
crying.
>> what's going on?

1014
00:28:47,727 --> 00:28:49,159
Crying.
>> what's going on?
>> alfred everette informs them

1015
00:28:49,161 --> 00:28:50,661
>> what's going on?
>> alfred everette informs them
basically that he has something

1016
00:28:50,663 --> 00:28:51,962
>> alfred everette informs them
basically that he has something
to tell them.

1017
00:28:51,964 --> 00:28:53,630
Basically that he has something
to tell them.
>> it was me, man.

1018
00:28:53,632 --> 00:28:55,165
To tell them.
>> it was me, man.
I-I killed ernest.

1019
00:28:55,167 --> 00:28:56,700
>> it was me, man.
I-I killed ernest.
>> you did what?

1020
00:28:56,702 --> 00:28:58,535
I-I killed ernest.
>> you did what?
>> he confessed to murdering

1021
00:28:58,537 --> 00:28:59,203
>> you did what?
>> he confessed to murdering
ernest.

1022
00:28:59,205 --> 00:29:00,571
>> he confessed to murdering
ernest.
He was the shooter.

1023
00:29:00,573 --> 00:29:02,506
Ernest.
He was the shooter.
We was sitting in the car, and

1024
00:29:02,508 --> 00:29:03,907
he was the shooter.
We was sitting in the car, and
it was dead silence.

1025
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:05,109
We was sitting in the car, and
it was dead silence.
We were shocked.

1026
00:29:05,111 --> 00:29:07,211
It was dead silence.
We were shocked.
>> narrator: According to enoch,

1027
00:29:07,213 --> 00:29:09,146
we were shocked.
>> narrator: According to enoch,
as he and william sat in rapt

1028
00:29:09,148 --> 00:29:11,215
>> narrator: According to enoch,
as he and william sat in rapt
attention, alfred told them how

1029
00:29:11,217 --> 00:29:12,916
as he and william sat in rapt
attention, alfred told them how
the murder of ernest smith

1030
00:29:12,918 --> 00:29:14,418
attention, alfred told them how
the murder of ernest smith
went down.

1031
00:29:14,420 --> 00:29:16,687
The murder of ernest smith
went down.
>> he said he stood around this

1032
00:29:16,689 --> 00:29:18,789
went down.
>> he said he stood around this
set of townhouses for two or

1033
00:29:18,791 --> 00:29:21,558
>> he said he stood around this
set of townhouses for two or
three hours, waiting.

1034
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,494
Set of townhouses for two or
three hours, waiting.
>> finally, ernest gets home

1035
00:29:23,496 --> 00:29:24,895
three hours, waiting.
>> finally, ernest gets home
and he's talking to his friend,

1036
00:29:24,897 --> 00:29:26,063
>> finally, ernest gets home
and he's talking to his friend,
and they keep talking and

1037
00:29:26,065 --> 00:29:27,464
and he's talking to his friend,
and they keep talking and
talking.

1038
00:29:27,766 --> 00:29:28,699
>> he said it seemed like they

1039
00:29:28,833 --> 00:29:29,700
were going to be talking all

1040
00:29:29,834 --> 00:29:30,601
night.

1041
00:29:30,902 --> 00:29:38,442
>> then he sees the friend leave
and he sees ernest smith begin
walking toward his door.

1042
00:29:38,444 --> 00:29:41,445
And he sees ernest smith begin
walking toward his door.
He runs up.

1043
00:29:41,447 --> 00:29:42,713
Walking toward his door.
He runs up.
He shoots him twice with a

1044
00:29:42,715 --> 00:29:43,947
he runs up.
He shoots him twice with a
9-millimeter.

1045
00:29:43,949 --> 00:29:46,183
He shoots him twice with a
9-millimeter.
[ gunshots ]

1046
00:29:46,185 --> 00:29:48,252
9-millimeter.
[ gunshots ]
watches him stumbled toward the

1047
00:29:48,254 --> 00:29:50,187
[ gunshots ]
watches him stumbled toward the
door, and then he gets in his

1048
00:29:50,189 --> 00:29:51,955
watches him stumbled toward the
door, and then he gets in his
car and flees.

1049
00:29:51,957 --> 00:29:53,390
Door, and then he gets in his
car and flees.
>> he told me and william he

1050
00:29:53,392 --> 00:29:54,324
car and flees.
>> he told me and william he
threw the gun in

1051
00:29:54,326 --> 00:29:56,059
>> he told me and william he
threw the gun in
lake pontchartrain.

1052
00:29:56,061 --> 00:29:57,861
Threw the gun in
lake pontchartrain.
>> narrator: Taken aback by what

1053
00:29:57,863 --> 00:29:59,663
lake pontchartrain.
>> narrator: Taken aback by what
they've heard, enoch and william

1054
00:29:59,665 --> 00:30:01,331
>> narrator: Taken aback by what
they've heard, enoch and william
ask alfred why he would shoot

1055
00:30:01,333 --> 00:30:03,133
they've heard, enoch and william
ask alfred why he would shoot
such a nice hardworking man like

1056
00:30:03,135 --> 00:30:04,301
ask alfred why he would shoot
such a nice hardworking man like
ernest smith.

1057
00:30:04,303 --> 00:30:06,436
Such a nice hardworking man like
ernest smith.
Alfred's answer floored them

1058
00:30:06,438 --> 00:30:07,504
ernest smith.
Alfred's answer floored them
completely.

1059
00:30:07,506 --> 00:30:09,640
Alfred's answer floored them
completely.
>> he told us james and emma

1060
00:30:09,642 --> 00:30:11,742
completely.
>> he told us james and emma
hired him to murder ernest.

1061
00:30:11,744 --> 00:30:13,744
>> he told us james and emma
hired him to murder ernest.
>> james and emma had been

1062
00:30:13,746 --> 00:30:15,512
hired him to murder ernest.
>> james and emma had been
carrying on this illicit affair

1063
00:30:15,514 --> 00:30:17,114
>> james and emma had been
carrying on this illicit affair
and wanted ernest out of the

1064
00:30:17,116 --> 00:30:17,748
carrying on this illicit affair
and wanted ernest out of the
picture.

1065
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:19,483
And wanted ernest out of the
picture.
>> emma and james said they was

1066
00:30:19,485 --> 00:30:20,818
picture.
>> emma and james said they was
gonna give me $10,000!

1067
00:30:20,820 --> 00:30:22,519
>> emma and james said they was
gonna give me $10,000!
They was gonna give me $10,000

1068
00:30:22,521 --> 00:30:23,720
gonna give me $10,000!
They was gonna give me $10,000
out the insurance.

1069
00:30:23,722 --> 00:30:25,489
They was gonna give me $10,000
out the insurance.
>> mr. Smith's insurance policy

1070
00:30:25,491 --> 00:30:27,991
out the insurance.
>> mr. Smith's insurance policy
was the motivator, but emma and

1071
00:30:27,993 --> 00:30:31,094
>> mr. Smith's insurance policy
was the motivator, but emma and
james never gave him the money.

1072
00:30:31,396 --> 00:30:32,729
>> all he ended up with was a

1073
00:30:32,864 --> 00:30:34,832
couple of clunker cars.

1074
00:30:35,133 --> 00:30:40,437
>> it took two, three minutes to
grasp what was said.
>> him and james, both my two

1075
00:30:40,439 --> 00:30:41,939
grasp what was said.
>> him and james, both my two
brothers, they done something

1076
00:30:41,941 --> 00:30:44,708
>> him and james, both my two
brothers, they done something
that was just unheard of for our

1077
00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:45,676
brothers, they done something
that was just unheard of for our
family.

1078
00:30:45,678 --> 00:30:47,277
That was just unheard of for our
family.
>> enoch and I said, "well,

1079
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:49,012
family.
>> enoch and I said, "well,
alfred, you know you got to do

1080
00:30:49,014 --> 00:30:50,113
>> enoch and I said, "well,
alfred, you know you got to do
the right thing."

1081
00:30:50,115 --> 00:30:51,682
alfred, you know you got to do
the right thing."
he told us, "I gonna do the

1082
00:30:51,684 --> 00:30:52,583
the right thing."
he told us, "I gonna do the
right thing."

1083
00:30:52,585 --> 00:30:53,851
he told us, "I gonna do the
right thing."
that's his exact words --

1084
00:30:53,853 --> 00:30:55,252
right thing."
that's his exact words --
I'm gonna do the right thing.

1085
00:30:55,254 --> 00:30:56,820
That's his exact words --
I'm gonna do the right thing.
>> narrator: According to enoch,

1086
00:30:56,822 --> 00:30:58,488
I'm gonna do the right thing.
>> narrator: According to enoch,
that conversation took place in

1087
00:30:58,490 --> 00:31:01,758
>> narrator: According to enoch,
that conversation took place in
the fall of 2011, but by 2013,

1088
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,293
that conversation took place in
the fall of 2011, but by 2013,
alfred still hadn't come clean

1089
00:31:03,295 --> 00:31:04,895
the fall of 2011, but by 2013,
alfred still hadn't come clean
to authorities about his role in

1090
00:31:04,897 --> 00:31:05,996
alfred still hadn't come clean
to authorities about his role in
ernest's murder.

1091
00:31:05,998 --> 00:31:07,464
To authorities about his role in
ernest's murder.
>> so they took it upon

1092
00:31:07,466 --> 00:31:08,832
ernest's murder.
>> so they took it upon
themselves to come to

1093
00:31:08,834 --> 00:31:10,667
>> so they took it upon
themselves to come to
new orleans and notify myself.

1094
00:31:10,669 --> 00:31:12,436
Themselves to come to
new orleans and notify myself.
>> they're the kind of people

1095
00:31:12,438 --> 00:31:14,238
new orleans and notify myself.
>> they're the kind of people
who, once you meet with them,

1096
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,873
>> they're the kind of people
who, once you meet with them,
you know that they are not

1097
00:31:15,875 --> 00:31:16,440
who, once you meet with them,
you know that they are not
lying.

1098
00:31:16,442 --> 00:31:18,342
You know that they are not
lying.
The truth coming out and moving

1099
00:31:18,344 --> 00:31:18,876
lying.
The truth coming out and moving
forward.

1100
00:31:18,878 --> 00:31:20,310
The truth coming out and moving
forward.
And justice was important for

1101
00:31:20,312 --> 00:31:21,111
forward.
And justice was important for
them.

1102
00:31:21,113 --> 00:31:22,713
And justice was important for
them.
>> narrator: In an effort to

1103
00:31:22,715 --> 00:31:24,214
them.
>> narrator: In an effort to
corroborate enoch and william's

1104
00:31:24,216 --> 00:31:25,515
>> narrator: In an effort to
corroborate enoch and william's
story, detective chambers

1105
00:31:25,517 --> 00:31:26,950
corroborate enoch and william's
story, detective chambers
obtains a warrant for emma's

1106
00:31:26,952 --> 00:31:28,352
story, detective chambers
obtains a warrant for emma's
cellphone records from the

1107
00:31:28,354 --> 00:31:31,255
obtains a warrant for emma's
cellphone records from the
night of April 12, 2006.

1108
00:31:31,257 --> 00:31:33,457
Cellphone records from the
night of April 12, 2006.
>> one of the telephone calls

1109
00:31:33,459 --> 00:31:35,859
night of April 12, 2006.
>> one of the telephone calls
that she made almost immediately

1110
00:31:35,861 --> 00:31:38,061
>> one of the telephone calls
that she made almost immediately
after the police departed the

1111
00:31:38,063 --> 00:31:41,932
that she made almost immediately
after the police departed the
scene was to her lover,

1112
00:31:41,934 --> 00:31:44,067
after the police departed the
scene was to her lover,
mr. James raine.

1113
00:31:44,069 --> 00:31:45,769
Scene was to her lover,
mr. James raine.
>> narrator: After examining

1114
00:31:45,771 --> 00:31:47,170
mr. James raine.
>> narrator: After examining
emma's cellphone records,

1115
00:31:47,172 --> 00:31:48,772
>> narrator: After examining
emma's cellphone records,
detective chambers takes a look

1116
00:31:48,774 --> 00:31:50,274
emma's cellphone records,
detective chambers takes a look
at the life-insurance policy

1117
00:31:50,276 --> 00:31:51,742
detective chambers takes a look
at the life-insurance policy
emma had taken out on ernest

1118
00:31:51,744 --> 00:31:53,343
at the life-insurance policy
emma had taken out on ernest
prior to his murder.

1119
00:31:53,345 --> 00:31:55,412
Emma had taken out on ernest
prior to his murder.
>> the insurance policy was

1120
00:31:55,414 --> 00:31:57,347
prior to his murder.
>> the insurance policy was
started out as $100,000

1121
00:31:57,349 --> 00:31:58,749
>> the insurance policy was
started out as $100,000
insurance policy.

1122
00:31:58,751 --> 00:32:00,617
Started out as $100,000
insurance policy.
>> then literally doubled,

1123
00:32:00,619 --> 00:32:01,985
insurance policy.
>> then literally doubled,
from like $400,000 to $800,000

1124
00:32:01,987 --> 00:32:03,186
>> then literally doubled,
from like $400,000 to $800,000
over the course of a couple

1125
00:32:03,188 --> 00:32:05,155
from like $400,000 to $800,000
over the course of a couple
months before his murder.

1126
00:32:05,157 --> 00:32:07,057
Over the course of a couple
months before his murder.
>> she and james built this very

1127
00:32:07,059 --> 00:32:09,960
months before his murder.
>> she and james built this very
lavish and mansion-like home in

1128
00:32:09,962 --> 00:32:12,296
>> she and james built this very
lavish and mansion-like home in
poplarville from ernest smith's

1129
00:32:12,298 --> 00:32:13,130
lavish and mansion-like home in
poplarville from ernest smith's
insurance money.

1130
00:32:13,132 --> 00:32:14,398
Poplarville from ernest smith's
insurance money.
>> narrator: But in combing

1131
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,565
insurance money.
>> narrator: But in combing
through emma's financial

1132
00:32:15,567 --> 00:32:17,334
>> narrator: But in combing
through emma's financial
records, detective chambers

1133
00:32:17,336 --> 00:32:19,303
through emma's financial
records, detective chambers
realizes the payout on ernest

1134
00:32:19,305 --> 00:32:21,238
records, detective chambers
realizes the payout on ernest
isn't the only hefty insurance

1135
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,206
realizes the payout on ernest
isn't the only hefty insurance
policy emma raine had recently

1136
00:32:23,208 --> 00:32:25,242
isn't the only hefty insurance
policy emma raine had recently
cashed in.

1137
00:32:25,244 --> 00:32:27,277
Policy emma raine had recently
cashed in.
>> after james's death, she

1138
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:30,380
cashed in.
>> after james's death, she
never missed a beat on james's

1139
00:32:30,382 --> 00:32:32,783
>> after james's death, she
never missed a beat on james's
life-insurance policy.

1140
00:32:32,785 --> 00:32:35,585
Never missed a beat on james's
life-insurance policy.
>> the one for james was

1141
00:32:35,587 --> 00:32:38,322
life-insurance policy.
>> the one for james was
$400,000.

1142
00:32:38,324 --> 00:32:41,458
>> the one for james was
$400,000.
That was most suspicious, since

1143
00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:44,461
$400,000.
That was most suspicious, since
mr. Raine now was the victim of

1144
00:32:44,463 --> 00:32:45,762
that was most suspicious, since
mr. Raine now was the victim of
a homicide himself.

1145
00:32:45,764 --> 00:32:47,431
Mr. Raine now was the victim of
a homicide himself.
>> narrator: Examining the

1146
00:32:47,433 --> 00:32:48,665
a homicide himself.
>> narrator: Examining the
insurance records,

1147
00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:50,200
>> narrator: Examining the
insurance records,
detective chambers also

1148
00:32:50,202 --> 00:32:51,969
insurance records,
detective chambers also
discovers that shortly after

1149
00:32:51,971 --> 00:32:53,870
detective chambers also
discovers that shortly after
james's murder, the dream home

1150
00:32:53,872 --> 00:32:55,806
discovers that shortly after
james's murder, the dream home
he and emma built with the cash

1151
00:32:55,808 --> 00:32:57,808
james's murder, the dream home
he and emma built with the cash
from the policy on ernest's life

1152
00:32:57,810 --> 00:32:59,476
he and emma built with the cash
from the policy on ernest's life
mysteriously burned to the

1153
00:32:59,478 --> 00:33:00,978
from the policy on ernest's life
mysteriously burned to the
ground.

1154
00:33:00,980 --> 00:33:03,447
Mysteriously burned to the
ground.
>> I think it was valued at

1155
00:33:03,449 --> 00:33:06,283
ground.
>> I think it was valued at
somewhere right around $300,000,

1156
00:33:06,285 --> 00:33:08,151
>> I think it was valued at
somewhere right around $300,000,
$400,000.

1157
00:33:08,153 --> 00:33:10,187
Somewhere right around $300,000,
$400,000.
But she had an insurance policy

1158
00:33:10,189 --> 00:33:12,322
$400,000.
But she had an insurance policy
on it that was doubled.

1159
00:33:12,324 --> 00:33:13,991
But she had an insurance policy
on it that was doubled.
>> narrator: As she peels back

1160
00:33:13,993 --> 00:33:15,659
on it that was doubled.
>> narrator: As she peels back
the layers of emma's possible

1161
00:33:15,661 --> 00:33:17,494
>> narrator: As she peels back
the layers of emma's possible
misdeeds, detective chambers

1162
00:33:17,496 --> 00:33:19,329
the layers of emma's possible
misdeeds, detective chambers
wonders if it didn't all begin

1163
00:33:19,331 --> 00:33:21,198
misdeeds, detective chambers
wonders if it didn't all begin
two decades earlier with emma's

1164
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,934
wonders if it didn't all begin
two decades earlier with emma's
first husband, leroy evans.

1165
00:33:23,936 --> 00:33:25,569
Two decades earlier with emma's
first husband, leroy evans.
>> he was a paraplegic due to

1166
00:33:25,571 --> 00:33:26,837
first husband, leroy evans.
>> he was a paraplegic due to
the car accident.

1167
00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:28,839
>> he was a paraplegic due to
the car accident.
>> one night, his feeding tube

1168
00:33:28,841 --> 00:33:33,810
the car accident.
>> one night, his feeding tube
came out and he choked and died.

1169
00:33:33,812 --> 00:33:36,980
>> one night, his feeding tube
came out and he choked and died.
>> it was ruled an accident.

1170
00:33:36,982 --> 00:33:38,281
Came out and he choked and died.
>> it was ruled an accident.
>> narrator: And when

1171
00:33:38,283 --> 00:33:40,050
>> it was ruled an accident.
>> narrator: And when
detective chambers contacts

1172
00:33:40,052 --> 00:33:41,451
>> narrator: And when
detective chambers contacts
leroy evans's mother in

1173
00:33:41,453 --> 00:33:43,353
detective chambers contacts
leroy evans's mother in
vicksburg, mississippi, what she

1174
00:33:43,355 --> 00:33:44,788
leroy evans's mother in
vicksburg, mississippi, what she
learns only raises more

1175
00:33:44,790 --> 00:33:45,789
vicksburg, mississippi, what she
learns only raises more
eyebrows.

1176
00:33:45,791 --> 00:33:48,492
Learns only raises more
eyebrows.
>> emma was the last person that

1177
00:33:48,494 --> 00:33:50,761
eyebrows.
>> emma was the last person that
was supposedly seen in the room

1178
00:33:50,763 --> 00:33:53,797
>> emma was the last person that
was supposedly seen in the room
with him before his feeding tube

1179
00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:55,399
was supposedly seen in the room
with him before his feeding tube
come up missing.

1180
00:33:55,401 --> 00:33:57,667
With him before his feeding tube
come up missing.
>> his mother claims that

1181
00:33:57,669 --> 00:34:00,237
come up missing.
>> his mother claims that
emma raine must have obtained

1182
00:34:00,239 --> 00:34:01,571
>> his mother claims that
emma raine must have obtained
some of the proceeds from his

1183
00:34:01,573 --> 00:34:02,873
emma raine must have obtained
some of the proceeds from his
insurance, because they never

1184
00:34:02,875 --> 00:34:04,408
some of the proceeds from his
insurance, because they never
got any money from his

1185
00:34:04,410 --> 00:34:05,942
insurance, because they never
got any money from his
life-insurance policy.

1186
00:34:05,944 --> 00:34:07,477
Got any money from his
life-insurance policy.
>> every husband basically that

1187
00:34:07,479 --> 00:34:11,181
life-insurance policy.
>> every husband basically that
she'd had...Died.

1188
00:34:11,183 --> 00:34:12,449
>> every husband basically that
she'd had...Died.
>> narrator: Which leads

1189
00:34:12,451 --> 00:34:14,551
she'd had...Died.
>> narrator: Which leads
investigators to a terrifying

1190
00:34:14,553 --> 00:34:15,752
>> narrator: Which leads
investigators to a terrifying
conclusion.

1191
00:34:15,754 --> 00:34:17,888
Investigators to a terrifying
conclusion.
>> we have a true black

1192
00:34:17,890 --> 00:34:18,955
conclusion.
>> we have a true black
black widow.

1193
00:34:18,957 --> 00:34:20,624
>> we have a true black
black widow.
>> there is a pattern.

1194
00:34:20,626 --> 00:34:22,426
Black widow.
>> there is a pattern.
She was marrying men and

1195
00:34:22,428 --> 00:34:23,760
>> there is a pattern.
She was marrying men and
murdering them to collect

1196
00:34:23,762 --> 00:34:25,162
she was marrying men and
murdering them to collect
the life-insurance policy.

1197
00:34:25,164 --> 00:34:26,596
Murdering them to collect
the life-insurance policy.
We didn't know who would be

1198
00:34:26,598 --> 00:34:28,565
the life-insurance policy.
We didn't know who would be
next.

1199
00:34:28,567 --> 00:34:31,268
We didn't know who would be
next.
♪

1200
00:34:32,837 --> 00:34:39,342
♪
>> narrator: May 2013.
Nearly one year into their

1201
00:34:39,344 --> 00:34:40,744
>> narrator: May 2013.
Nearly one year into their
investigation, cold-case

1202
00:34:40,746 --> 00:34:42,345
nearly one year into their
investigation, cold-case
detectives now have reason to

1203
00:34:42,347 --> 00:34:44,714
investigation, cold-case
detectives now have reason to
suspect that 20 years earlier,

1204
00:34:44,716 --> 00:34:46,917
detectives now have reason to
suspect that 20 years earlier,
emma raine, then emma evans,

1205
00:34:46,919 --> 00:34:48,885
suspect that 20 years earlier,
emma raine, then emma evans,
murdered her first husband,

1206
00:34:48,887 --> 00:34:51,121
emma raine, then emma evans,
murdered her first husband,
a paraplegic named leroy evans,

1207
00:34:51,123 --> 00:34:52,422
murdered her first husband,
a paraplegic named leroy evans,
and collected a life-insurance

1208
00:34:52,424 --> 00:34:54,424
a paraplegic named leroy evans,
and collected a life-insurance
policy she had taken out on him.

1209
00:34:54,725 --> 00:34:56,359
>> this was the narrative of a

1210
00:34:56,494 --> 00:34:58,095
woman who's basically tearing

1211
00:34:58,229 --> 00:34:59,996
through men and killing them and

1212
00:35:00,131 --> 00:35:01,832
then taking the insurance money

1213
00:35:01,966 --> 00:35:03,366
and living high on the hog.

1214
00:35:03,501 --> 00:35:04,434
>> they deemed it

1215
00:35:04,569 --> 00:35:05,535
"the black widow."

1216
00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:07,170
>> at this point in the case,

1217
00:35:07,305 --> 00:35:08,138
police have tons of

1218
00:35:08,272 --> 00:35:09,606
circumstantial evidence pointing

1219
00:35:09,740 --> 00:35:10,974
to emma as being the criminal

1220
00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:12,676
mastermind of the murders of

1221
00:35:12,810 --> 00:35:14,411
ernest smith and james raine,

1222
00:35:14,545 --> 00:35:16,947
if not leroy evans as well.

1223
00:35:17,081 --> 00:35:18,415
>> narrator: Adding to the

1224
00:35:18,549 --> 00:35:19,850
intrigue is the fact that

1225
00:35:19,984 --> 00:35:21,384
james's brother, enoch, has

1226
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:23,186
alleged that emma enlisted their

1227
00:35:23,321 --> 00:35:24,988
adoptive brother, alfred, as the

1228
00:35:25,123 --> 00:35:26,656
triggerman in ernest's murder

1229
00:35:26,791 --> 00:35:28,291
which cleared the way for emma

1230
00:35:28,426 --> 00:35:29,392
to collect ernest's

1231
00:35:29,527 --> 00:35:30,927
life-insurance policy before

1232
00:35:31,062 --> 00:35:33,130
setting her sights on james.

1233
00:35:33,264 --> 00:35:34,764
>> in order to get to emma, they

1234
00:35:34,899 --> 00:35:36,266
need to track down alfred and

1235
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,868
get a confession, and they need

1236
00:35:38,002 --> 00:35:39,136
to do it quickly before

1237
00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:41,037
emma raine strikes again.

1238
00:35:41,172 --> 00:35:43,273
>> narrator: On July 12, 2013,

1239
00:35:43,407 --> 00:35:45,142
investigators track down

1240
00:35:45,276 --> 00:35:46,476
alfred everette at an oil

1241
00:35:46,611 --> 00:35:47,944
pipeline in texas where he'd

1242
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:49,779
been working and bring him into

1243
00:35:49,914 --> 00:35:51,014
custody.

1244
00:35:51,315 --> 00:35:55,852
>> hello, alfred.
I spoke to him personally.
He would not admit his

1245
00:35:55,854 --> 00:35:56,786
I spoke to him personally.
He would not admit his
involvement.

1246
00:35:56,788 --> 00:35:59,789
He would not admit his
involvement.
However, I have never seen a man

1247
00:35:59,791 --> 00:36:03,760
involvement.
However, I have never seen a man
cry like that in my life.

1248
00:36:03,762 --> 00:36:06,997
However, I have never seen a man
cry like that in my life.
I knew it the moment that I came

1249
00:36:06,999 --> 00:36:08,632
cry like that in my life.
I knew it the moment that I came
in contact with him he was

1250
00:36:08,634 --> 00:36:10,100
I knew it the moment that I came
in contact with him he was
guilty.

1251
00:36:10,102 --> 00:36:11,668
In contact with him he was
guilty.
>> narrator: A month later,

1252
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:13,303
guilty.
>> narrator: A month later,
police catch up with emma in

1253
00:36:13,305 --> 00:36:14,905
>> narrator: A month later,
police catch up with emma in
kansas city, missouri, where

1254
00:36:14,907 --> 00:36:16,640
police catch up with emma in
kansas city, missouri, where
this so-called black widow has

1255
00:36:16,642 --> 00:36:18,341
kansas city, missouri, where
this so-called black widow has
apparently set her sights on a

1256
00:36:18,343 --> 00:36:19,309
this so-called black widow has
apparently set her sights on a
new target.

1257
00:36:19,610 --> 00:36:21,278
>> she moved to missouri with

1258
00:36:21,412 --> 00:36:22,979
her new and fourth husband,

1259
00:36:23,114 --> 00:36:24,047
gregory miller.

1260
00:36:24,182 --> 00:36:25,916
It seemed like she was able to

1261
00:36:26,050 --> 00:36:27,851
move on very quickly.

1262
00:36:27,985 --> 00:36:28,985
>> narrator: News of emma's

1263
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,153
arrest quickly makes its way

1264
00:36:30,288 --> 00:36:31,588
back to new orleans.

1265
00:36:31,722 --> 00:36:33,056
Friends and loved ones there are

1266
00:36:33,191 --> 00:36:34,291
floored.

1267
00:36:34,425 --> 00:36:35,625
>> I just couldn't believe this.

1268
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,093
This is impossible.

1269
00:36:37,395 --> 00:36:41,231
She's a good person.
>> narrator: Though perhaps no
one is more shocked by emma's

1270
00:36:41,233 --> 00:36:43,333
>> narrator: Though perhaps no
one is more shocked by emma's
arrest than her new husband,

1271
00:36:43,335 --> 00:36:44,367
one is more shocked by emma's
arrest than her new husband,
greg miller.

1272
00:36:44,369 --> 00:36:46,536
Arrest than her new husband,
greg miller.
>> emma had a $400,000

1273
00:36:46,538 --> 00:36:48,271
greg miller.
>> emma had a $400,000
life-insurance policy in place

1274
00:36:48,273 --> 00:36:49,439
>> emma had a $400,000
life-insurance policy in place
on her new husband,

1275
00:36:49,441 --> 00:36:50,440
life-insurance policy in place
on her new husband,
gregory miller.

1276
00:36:50,442 --> 00:36:52,108
On her new husband,
gregory miller.
So it seems pretty clear that

1277
00:36:52,110 --> 00:36:53,710
gregory miller.
So it seems pretty clear that
the black widow was ready to

1278
00:36:53,712 --> 00:36:54,578
so it seems pretty clear that
the black widow was ready to
strike again.

1279
00:36:54,580 --> 00:36:56,279
The black widow was ready to
strike again.
>> I really believe he was her

1280
00:36:56,281 --> 00:36:57,214
strike again.
>> I really believe he was her
next victim.

1281
00:36:57,216 --> 00:36:59,149
>> I really believe he was her
next victim.
>> needless to say, when police

1282
00:36:59,151 --> 00:37:01,117
next victim.
>> needless to say, when police
informed husband number four of

1283
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:03,053
>> needless to say, when police
informed husband number four of
this fact, he immediately filed

1284
00:37:03,055 --> 00:37:04,454
informed husband number four of
this fact, he immediately filed
for divorce.

1285
00:37:04,456 --> 00:37:06,022
This fact, he immediately filed
for divorce.
>> narrator: With both emma and

1286
00:37:06,024 --> 00:37:07,357
for divorce.
>> narrator: With both emma and
triggerman alfred everette

1287
00:37:07,359 --> 00:37:08,925
>> narrator: With both emma and
triggerman alfred everette
opting to take their chances at

1288
00:37:08,927 --> 00:37:10,961
triggerman alfred everette
opting to take their chances at
trial, prosecutors decide to try

1289
00:37:10,963 --> 00:37:11,928
opting to take their chances at
trial, prosecutors decide to try
alfred first.

1290
00:37:11,930 --> 00:37:13,930
Trial, prosecutors decide to try
alfred first.
>> prosecutors assert that emma,

1291
00:37:13,932 --> 00:37:15,966
alfred first.
>> prosecutors assert that emma,
james raine, and alfred everette

1292
00:37:15,968 --> 00:37:18,568
>> prosecutors assert that emma,
james raine, and alfred everette
conspired to murder ernest smith

1293
00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:20,270
james raine, and alfred everette
conspired to murder ernest smith
and collect his $800,000

1294
00:37:20,272 --> 00:37:21,605
conspired to murder ernest smith
and collect his $800,000
life-insurance policy.

1295
00:37:21,607 --> 00:37:23,340
And collect his $800,000
life-insurance policy.
Emma and james offered alfred a

1296
00:37:23,342 --> 00:37:24,975
life-insurance policy.
Emma and james offered alfred a
hefty cut of the money if he

1297
00:37:24,977 --> 00:37:26,643
emma and james offered alfred a
hefty cut of the money if he
agreed to be the triggerman.

1298
00:37:26,645 --> 00:37:27,911
Hefty cut of the money if he
agreed to be the triggerman.
>> so on the night of

1299
00:37:27,913 --> 00:37:30,880
agreed to be the triggerman.
>> so on the night of
April 12, 2006, alfred waited

1300
00:37:30,882 --> 00:37:32,882
>> so on the night of
April 12, 2006, alfred waited
outside emma and ernest's condo

1301
00:37:32,884 --> 00:37:34,517
April 12, 2006, alfred waited
outside emma and ernest's condo
for ernest to come home from a

1302
00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:35,885
outside emma and ernest's condo
for ernest to come home from a
night of being out.

1303
00:37:35,887 --> 00:37:37,787
For ernest to come home from a
night of being out.
Alfred approaches from behind

1304
00:37:37,789 --> 00:37:39,823
night of being out.
Alfred approaches from behind
and shoots ernest twice in cold

1305
00:37:39,825 --> 00:37:41,224
alfred approaches from behind
and shoots ernest twice in cold
blood...

1306
00:37:41,226 --> 00:37:43,393
And shoots ernest twice in cold
blood...
[ gunshots ]

1307
00:37:43,395 --> 00:37:44,894
blood...
[ gunshots ]
...And leaves him for dead on

1308
00:37:44,896 --> 00:37:46,763
[ gunshots ]
...And leaves him for dead on
his doorstep.

1309
00:37:46,765 --> 00:37:49,132
...And leaves him for dead on
his doorstep.
Emma then calls james raine,

1310
00:37:49,134 --> 00:37:50,934
his doorstep.
Emma then calls james raine,
moments after calling 911, to

1311
00:37:50,936 --> 00:37:52,769
emma then calls james raine,
moments after calling 911, to
let him know the plan had been

1312
00:37:52,771 --> 00:37:53,370
moments after calling 911, to
let him know the plan had been
executed.

1313
00:37:53,372 --> 00:37:54,804
Let him know the plan had been
executed.
>> narrator: The state's case

1314
00:37:54,806 --> 00:37:56,139
executed.
>> narrator: The state's case
hinges on the testimony of

1315
00:37:56,141 --> 00:37:58,308
>> narrator: The state's case
hinges on the testimony of
alfred's relatives, enoch raine

1316
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:59,643
hinges on the testimony of
alfred's relatives, enoch raine
and william fowler.

1317
00:37:59,645 --> 00:38:01,411
Alfred's relatives, enoch raine
and william fowler.
>> their testimony was very

1318
00:38:01,413 --> 00:38:02,345
and william fowler.
>> their testimony was very
strong.

1319
00:38:02,647 --> 00:38:03,747
>> these people weren't going to

1320
00:38:03,881 --> 00:38:04,848
come here and make this up

1321
00:38:04,982 --> 00:38:05,882
against a family member,

1322
00:38:06,017 --> 00:38:07,484
someone they literally raised

1323
00:38:07,618 --> 00:38:09,185
from a small child to an adult.

1324
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,854
But they felt like they had to

1325
00:38:10,988 --> 00:38:11,855
do the right thing.

1326
00:38:11,989 --> 00:38:13,623
>> alfred was convicted of

1327
00:38:13,758 --> 00:38:14,791
second-degree murder.

1328
00:38:14,925 --> 00:38:16,159
In louisiana, there's only

1329
00:38:16,294 --> 00:38:17,093
one sentence for

1330
00:38:17,228 --> 00:38:18,762
second-degree murder, and that's

1331
00:38:18,896 --> 00:38:19,763
mandatory life.

1332
00:38:19,897 --> 00:38:21,498
>> my heart still goes out to

1333
00:38:21,632 --> 00:38:21,965
him.

1334
00:38:22,099 --> 00:38:23,800
But he took a life.

1335
00:38:23,934 --> 00:38:26,536
And, you know, you got -- that

1336
00:38:26,671 --> 00:38:28,738
has to be taken care of.

1337
00:38:28,873 --> 00:38:31,541
>> narrator: On August 10, 2016,

1338
00:38:31,676 --> 00:38:33,376
nearly two years after alfred's

1339
00:38:33,511 --> 00:38:35,145
conviction, emma raine's trial

1340
00:38:35,279 --> 00:38:36,913
gets under way in a new orleans

1341
00:38:37,048 --> 00:38:37,881
parish courtroom.

1342
00:38:38,015 --> 00:38:39,382
>> this was a case that packed

1343
00:38:39,517 --> 00:38:40,884
the courtroom, I can tell you,

1344
00:38:41,018 --> 00:38:42,452
just out of the sheer interest.

1345
00:38:42,586 --> 00:38:43,753
>> you don't get a lot of

1346
00:38:43,888 --> 00:38:45,121
black-widow-style murder.

1347
00:38:45,423 --> 00:38:50,226
>> narrator: Though emma is
suspected of murdering all three
of her husbands, prosecutors are

1348
00:38:50,228 --> 00:38:51,728
suspected of murdering all three
of her husbands, prosecutors are
quick to remind the jury that

1349
00:38:51,730 --> 00:38:53,229
of her husbands, prosecutors are
quick to remind the jury that
she's only standing trial for

1350
00:38:53,231 --> 00:38:54,564
quick to remind the jury that
she's only standing trial for
the murder of husband number

1351
00:38:54,566 --> 00:38:56,499
she's only standing trial for
the murder of husband number
two, ernest smith.

1352
00:38:56,501 --> 00:38:58,601
The murder of husband number
two, ernest smith.
>> we knew she did not actually

1353
00:38:58,603 --> 00:39:00,570
two, ernest smith.
>> we knew she did not actually
pull the trigger, but he was a

1354
00:39:00,572 --> 00:39:01,905
>> we knew she did not actually
pull the trigger, but he was a
principle to the killing.

1355
00:39:01,907 --> 00:39:03,440
Pull the trigger, but he was a
principle to the killing.
>> narrator: Perhaps the most

1356
00:39:03,442 --> 00:39:04,808
principle to the killing.
>> narrator: Perhaps the most
gripping piece of evidence

1357
00:39:04,810 --> 00:39:06,309
>> narrator: Perhaps the most
gripping piece of evidence
submitted is the surveillance

1358
00:39:06,311 --> 00:39:07,777
gripping piece of evidence
submitted is the surveillance
footage from emma and james's

1359
00:39:07,779 --> 00:39:09,579
submitted is the surveillance
footage from emma and james's
home, which stopped recording

1360
00:39:09,581 --> 00:39:11,481
footage from emma and james's
home, which stopped recording
just hours before james raine's

1361
00:39:11,483 --> 00:39:12,115
home, which stopped recording
just hours before james raine's
murder.

1362
00:39:12,117 --> 00:39:13,683
Just hours before james raine's
murder.
>> there were surveillance

1363
00:39:13,685 --> 00:39:15,852
murder.
>> there were surveillance
cameras all over the house that

1364
00:39:15,854 --> 00:39:17,887
>> there were surveillance
cameras all over the house that
were installed by emma raine.

1365
00:39:17,889 --> 00:39:20,056
Cameras all over the house that
were installed by emma raine.
Police see that she is the last

1366
00:39:20,058 --> 00:39:22,092
were installed by emma raine.
Police see that she is the last
one in the surveillance-camera

1367
00:39:22,094 --> 00:39:23,626
police see that she is the last
one in the surveillance-camera
footage, and she's actually

1368
00:39:23,628 --> 00:39:25,028
one in the surveillance-camera
footage, and she's actually
manipulating the central

1369
00:39:25,030 --> 00:39:26,596
footage, and she's actually
manipulating the central
location of the surveillance

1370
00:39:26,598 --> 00:39:27,230
manipulating the central
location of the surveillance
cameras.

1371
00:39:27,232 --> 00:39:28,965
Location of the surveillance
cameras.
They all shut off together, and

1372
00:39:28,967 --> 00:39:30,600
cameras.
They all shut off together, and
she's the last person seen in

1373
00:39:30,602 --> 00:39:34,104
they all shut off together, and
she's the last person seen in
frame before his murder.

1374
00:39:34,106 --> 00:39:36,873
She's the last person seen in
frame before his murder.
>> narrator: On August 12, 2016,

1375
00:39:36,875 --> 00:39:38,408
frame before his murder.
>> narrator: On August 12, 2016,
the jury returns with their

1376
00:39:38,410 --> 00:39:39,042
>> narrator: On August 12, 2016,
the jury returns with their
verdict.

1377
00:39:39,044 --> 00:39:41,311
The jury returns with their
verdict.
>> they convict her of murder,

1378
00:39:41,313 --> 00:39:43,113
verdict.
>> they convict her of murder,
send her away for life.

1379
00:39:43,115 --> 00:39:45,382
>> they convict her of murder,
send her away for life.
>> it took me a long time, but

1380
00:39:45,384 --> 00:39:47,450
send her away for life.
>> it took me a long time, but
when I look at her now, I see

1381
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>> it took me a long time, but
when I look at her now, I see
wickedness and evil.

1382
00:39:50,756 --> 00:39:52,389
When I look at her now, I see
wickedness and evil.
By now, ernest would've been

1383
00:39:52,391 --> 00:39:53,723
wickedness and evil.
By now, ernest would've been
what you call a national

1384
00:39:53,725 --> 00:39:54,357
by now, ernest would've been
what you call a national
preacher.

1385
00:39:54,359 --> 00:39:56,059
What you call a national
preacher.
There was just so much more that

1386
00:39:56,061 --> 00:39:59,763
preacher.
There was just so much more that
he had to offer his people, the

1387
00:39:59,765 --> 00:40:03,466
there was just so much more that
he had to offer his people, the
church world, and the community.

1388
00:40:03,468 --> 00:40:04,334
He had to offer his people, the
church world, and the community.
>> narrator: As for

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church world, and the community.
>> narrator: As for
james raine's family, they

1390
00:40:05,871 --> 00:40:07,604
>> narrator: As for
james raine's family, they
understand he played a role in

1391
00:40:07,606 --> 00:40:09,339
james raine's family, they
understand he played a role in
the death of ernest smith, but

1392
00:40:09,341 --> 00:40:10,940
understand he played a role in
the death of ernest smith, but
ultimately james was a victim as

1393
00:40:10,942 --> 00:40:11,841
the death of ernest smith, but
ultimately james was a victim as
well.

1394
00:40:12,143 --> 00:40:14,210
>> james was guilty, but she

1395
00:40:14,345 --> 00:40:16,579
calculated the whole situation.

1396
00:40:16,714 --> 00:40:18,915
My two brothers was just pawns

1397
00:40:19,049 --> 00:40:20,383
on her chess board.

1398
00:40:20,518 --> 00:40:22,652
>> "evil" is the word that comes

1399
00:40:22,787 --> 00:40:24,687
to mind -- an extremely evil

1400
00:40:24,822 --> 00:40:26,990
person who cares very, very

1401
00:40:27,124 --> 00:40:29,592
little about the value of human

1402
00:40:29,727 --> 00:40:32,562
life, who cares very little

1403
00:40:32,696 --> 00:40:34,831
about human relationships and

1404
00:40:34,965 --> 00:40:37,100
who literally used people for

1405
00:40:37,234 --> 00:40:40,303
her personal and selfish gain.