1 00:00:05,689 --> 00:00:08,008 ANDY: Previously on the "Southern Charm" Reunion... 2 00:00:08,175 --> 00:00:10,168 Salley, have you and Austen been intimate? 3 00:00:10,335 --> 00:00:12,613 - Oh, yeah. - Austen. 4 00:00:12,746 --> 00:00:14,231 - Salley. - Help me out. 5 00:00:14,331 --> 00:00:15,749 - Stop lying. - MADISON: You guys are dumb 6 00:00:15,883 --> 00:00:18,318 as fuck if you think you're gonna tell us 7 00:00:18,452 --> 00:00:19,745 that y'all have not had sex. 8 00:00:20,746 --> 00:00:23,415 I think that I'm blamed for y'all not being together, 9 00:00:23,515 --> 00:00:25,459 - because that is bullshit. - But the whole time, 10 00:00:25,626 --> 00:00:27,594 you just were like, "Charley's talking to other boys." 11 00:00:27,728 --> 00:00:29,263 - She was. - CRAIG: Right, but she promised 12 00:00:29,363 --> 00:00:31,131 she wasn't talking to anyone else the whole time 13 00:00:31,298 --> 00:00:33,533 - we were together. - I did not. I did not. 14 00:00:34,434 --> 00:00:36,637 Whitner said Craig is a narcissist. 15 00:00:36,770 --> 00:00:38,138 I'm only going off of what I see. 16 00:00:38,305 --> 00:00:39,940 Do you think Craig is a narcissist? 17 00:00:40,340 --> 00:00:42,009 - Yes. - So you don't think 18 00:00:42,109 --> 00:00:43,610 - I'm empathetic? - No. 19 00:00:43,677 --> 00:00:45,245 If that's how you believe about me, 20 00:00:45,345 --> 00:00:46,780 then you shouldn't be friends with me because-- 21 00:00:46,947 --> 00:00:48,549 AUSTEN: And, like, here we are again, Craig, 22 00:00:48,715 --> 00:00:51,151 where you're like, "Then you shouldn't be friends with me." 23 00:00:51,318 --> 00:00:53,554 Dude, you're such a fucking dickhead. 24 00:00:54,655 --> 00:00:57,691 Well, we're gonna leave it there for right now. 25 00:00:57,858 --> 00:00:59,810 - [Austen sighs] - We'll be right back. 26 00:01:04,932 --> 00:01:07,067 [intense music playing] 27 00:01:09,052 --> 00:01:10,696 Goddamn. 28 00:01:24,985 --> 00:01:27,754 ♪ Ba-ba-doo ♪ 29 00:01:28,922 --> 00:01:31,525 [tense music playing] 30 00:01:31,692 --> 00:01:34,586 You guys have villainized vulnerability, so unfortunately, 31 00:01:34,753 --> 00:01:37,064 I'm not gonna be vulnerable with you guys anymore. 32 00:01:37,798 --> 00:01:40,017 I don't even know where my battery pack is. 33 00:01:41,501 --> 00:01:44,371 It's here. Restroom... 34 00:01:44,471 --> 00:01:46,206 RODRIGO: Is that steak? 35 00:01:46,373 --> 00:01:48,208 - Yeah. - It looks like gyro meat. 36 00:01:48,342 --> 00:01:51,545 Okay, well, not an ideal night to eat my ass, Austen. 37 00:01:51,678 --> 00:01:53,914 - [mock vomiting] - [both laughing] 38 00:01:54,414 --> 00:01:55,983 - MADISON: Hey, baby. - BRETT: Say hi. 39 00:01:56,083 --> 00:01:57,751 - I miss you. - You look beautiful. 40 00:01:57,918 --> 00:02:00,779 - Do you like it, babe? - Yeah, I like it a lot. 41 00:02:00,912 --> 00:02:03,690 Headed backstage, please, guys. Headed backstage. 42 00:02:03,757 --> 00:02:07,127 All right. Mama's going back to work. 43 00:02:07,260 --> 00:02:08,787 - Good luck. - I love you. 44 00:02:09,054 --> 00:02:13,759 ♪♪♪ 45 00:02:13,859 --> 00:02:16,636 If I can have you guys in your seats, please. 46 00:02:18,939 --> 00:02:20,640 Oh. What's up, guys? 47 00:02:22,876 --> 00:02:26,146 - MAN: Okay, glam, you gotta go. - Hey, guys. 48 00:02:28,348 --> 00:02:30,317 - What's up? - Uh... 49 00:02:31,318 --> 00:02:32,886 - How are you? - CRAIG: I'm... 50 00:02:32,986 --> 00:02:36,048 This is, um... a lot. 51 00:02:36,148 --> 00:02:38,025 I did so well... 52 00:02:38,191 --> 00:02:40,260 and then it just fucking exploded. 53 00:02:40,427 --> 00:02:41,620 - What? - CRAIG: Just-- 54 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,413 not freaking out at Austen. 55 00:02:45,198 --> 00:02:47,167 All right, here we go, Andy. I'm sending it to you. 56 00:02:47,334 --> 00:02:49,628 No talking. All eyes on Andy. 57 00:02:51,371 --> 00:02:54,207 Three, two, one. 58 00:02:54,307 --> 00:02:56,143 - Yeah. - ANDY: All right. 59 00:02:56,810 --> 00:02:58,979 Welcome back to the "Southern Charm" 60 00:02:59,112 --> 00:03:00,947 Season 11 Reunion. 61 00:03:01,081 --> 00:03:02,582 I'm your host, Andy Cohen. 62 00:03:02,716 --> 00:03:07,454 This season, Venita found herself at war with Craig, 63 00:03:07,554 --> 00:03:11,491 but it was the loss of her steadfast ally, Salley, 64 00:03:11,658 --> 00:03:15,087 that left her feeling completely under siege. 65 00:03:15,253 --> 00:03:17,297 SALLEY: Molly told me you were weary of me? 66 00:03:17,397 --> 00:03:18,990 What the fuck is up with that? 67 00:03:19,091 --> 00:03:20,751 Like, I feel like I've been a damn good friend to you. 68 00:03:20,851 --> 00:03:22,928 VENITA: But you make it very hard being on your side 69 00:03:23,095 --> 00:03:25,589 when you're on the side of someone that I don't like. 70 00:03:25,689 --> 00:03:27,174 - SALLEY: Craig? - VENITA: Exactly. 71 00:03:27,307 --> 00:03:28,642 I'm trying to protect you right now. 72 00:03:28,809 --> 00:03:31,278 Because he will walk you like a dog on a leash 73 00:03:31,445 --> 00:03:32,879 until he is done with you. 74 00:03:33,013 --> 00:03:34,673 Let me find out for myself. 75 00:03:36,049 --> 00:03:38,009 - It's fine. - SALLEY: Venita. 76 00:03:38,110 --> 00:03:39,386 I don't have anything else to say. 77 00:03:39,553 --> 00:03:41,888 Like, if you keep walking away every time, 78 00:03:42,055 --> 00:03:44,891 our sh--'s is never going to be ----ing settled. 79 00:03:45,776 --> 00:03:47,886 ANDY: So, Venita, a lot to unpack here, 80 00:03:48,019 --> 00:03:51,790 but first I want to catch up a little with you personally. 81 00:03:51,890 --> 00:03:54,334 So, there's a lot of talk 82 00:03:54,501 --> 00:03:57,637 of a romance with "Summer House"'s Carl Radke. 83 00:03:57,771 --> 00:03:59,172 Anything happening there? 84 00:03:59,339 --> 00:04:01,066 VENITA: I think Carl put a deadhead in that 85 00:04:01,233 --> 00:04:03,368 when he did a People interview saying that this was an issue 86 00:04:03,468 --> 00:04:04,511 and he told them and not me. 87 00:04:04,644 --> 00:04:05,746 - Oh. - VENITA: Yeah. 88 00:04:05,912 --> 00:04:07,647 - All right. - VENITA: Mm-hmm. 89 00:04:07,814 --> 00:04:09,916 It was lovely to see your mom on the show. 90 00:04:10,050 --> 00:04:11,818 - How's she doing? - VENITA: She's doing great. 91 00:04:11,918 --> 00:04:15,255 - That's my girl. - Yeah, well. [laughs] 92 00:04:16,314 --> 00:04:18,058 - What was that shade? - VENITA: I said, "Well." 93 00:04:18,225 --> 00:04:20,594 You said, "That's my girl" and I know why you said that. 94 00:04:20,727 --> 00:04:22,254 Yeah, because she had my back. 95 00:04:22,387 --> 00:04:25,799 Salley and I are having a little bit of a friendship hiccup. 96 00:04:25,899 --> 00:04:27,968 So, I told her, "Go after your man, 97 00:04:28,135 --> 00:04:29,669 "but don't call me when, you know, 98 00:04:29,803 --> 00:04:31,438 "when he hurts your feelings." 99 00:04:31,605 --> 00:04:33,165 That's mean. 100 00:04:33,598 --> 00:04:35,842 And she didn't know the full story, so of course. 101 00:04:35,909 --> 00:04:37,410 - Oh. - What's the full story, then? 102 00:04:37,544 --> 00:04:39,404 - VENITA: Anyway. - Why don't we get into it? 103 00:04:41,181 --> 00:04:42,249 We're on our way. 104 00:04:42,415 --> 00:04:44,117 Yeah, we're gonna get to that later. 105 00:04:44,284 --> 00:04:47,888 Venita, you were interviewed on several podcasts and asked 106 00:04:47,988 --> 00:04:49,856 - about Craig's breakup. - Yeah. 107 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:51,725 Do you think he should, 108 00:04:51,892 --> 00:04:54,628 like, let everyone know what Paige is or isn't doing? 109 00:04:54,761 --> 00:04:57,063 Ooh. Yeah. 110 00:04:57,230 --> 00:04:59,466 I think he should speak your truth 111 00:04:59,599 --> 00:05:01,293 and let it be known the same way you're speaking your truth 112 00:05:01,426 --> 00:05:03,537 - about everything else. - What if he doesn't know? 113 00:05:03,703 --> 00:05:05,530 Then stop answering like you do. 114 00:05:05,630 --> 00:05:07,432 - Ooh. Period, Venita. - Okay. 115 00:05:07,532 --> 00:05:09,743 What she said about me I didn't think was true, 116 00:05:09,910 --> 00:05:12,746 and I think she was just regurgitating gossip 117 00:05:12,879 --> 00:05:15,816 from the Internet, so, yeah, I'm not friends with her. 118 00:05:15,982 --> 00:05:19,219 And I wish her well, but no one's entitled to my friendship, 119 00:05:19,386 --> 00:05:21,404 and she definitely isn't anymore. 120 00:05:22,756 --> 00:05:24,391 You must have realized that 121 00:05:24,558 --> 00:05:26,159 - that might upset him. - Sure. 122 00:05:26,293 --> 00:05:28,028 But you know what would've been better if he said, 123 00:05:28,128 --> 00:05:29,429 "Hey, I don't like what you're doing" 124 00:05:29,596 --> 00:05:31,097 the first time I hurt his feelings 125 00:05:31,231 --> 00:05:32,732 versus letting me continue to go on 126 00:05:32,866 --> 00:05:34,801 because I was like, "Oh, well, I'm speaking my truth 127 00:05:34,901 --> 00:05:36,102 "and how I feel about it." 128 00:05:36,269 --> 00:05:37,637 And if he corrected me and be like, 129 00:05:37,804 --> 00:05:39,372 "Hey, listen, I know you're doing this podcast, 130 00:05:39,539 --> 00:05:40,966 but I don't like what you're saying," we could've had 131 00:05:41,066 --> 00:05:42,509 a conversation about it, but that never happened. 132 00:05:42,676 --> 00:05:44,644 Did you think of reaching out to her? 133 00:05:44,778 --> 00:05:46,446 What about her comments annoyed you? 134 00:05:46,580 --> 00:05:48,782 She's just repeating what she read on Reddit. 135 00:05:48,949 --> 00:05:50,917 - I don't read Reddit. - CRAIG: She didn't know Paige. 136 00:05:51,017 --> 00:05:52,619 She didn't have a relationship with her. 137 00:05:52,752 --> 00:05:55,655 Paige and I were inseparable and never spent a day really apart, 138 00:05:55,822 --> 00:05:58,124 and so when she went on that podcast, 139 00:05:58,225 --> 00:06:00,660 she said the exact opposite of what the case was. 140 00:06:00,794 --> 00:06:03,129 You know, the public was accusing me 141 00:06:03,263 --> 00:06:06,933 of dragging the breakup out, which actually, 142 00:06:07,100 --> 00:06:10,253 I was the only one not speaking about it, and I still haven't. 143 00:06:10,353 --> 00:06:12,530 And I just thought it was like a little bit bandwagon, 144 00:06:12,697 --> 00:06:14,941 like, getting caught up in, like, let's capitalize on this, 145 00:06:15,041 --> 00:06:16,876 like, you know, public breakup. 146 00:06:17,377 --> 00:06:18,878 Why do I need to capitalize off of you? 147 00:06:19,012 --> 00:06:20,247 I don't know why you did it, Venita. 148 00:06:20,347 --> 00:06:21,615 Because you didn't know Paige 149 00:06:21,748 --> 00:06:23,350 and you got your information off Reddit. 150 00:06:23,516 --> 00:06:25,118 VENITA: I don't read Reddit. You and I are in the same-- 151 00:06:25,252 --> 00:06:26,937 I don't go on social media when the show's airing. 152 00:06:27,037 --> 00:06:28,355 Okay, fair, fair. 153 00:06:28,455 --> 00:06:29,890 I don't read comments. I don't read Reddit. 154 00:06:30,056 --> 00:06:31,658 - I don't do any of that. - So you honestly believe 155 00:06:31,791 --> 00:06:34,728 that I was enjoying my breakup two months out of it. 156 00:06:34,895 --> 00:06:36,930 I think you were talking about it more than others. 157 00:06:37,464 --> 00:06:38,832 CRAIG: Okay, so again, 158 00:06:38,999 --> 00:06:41,468 I don't agree with the things that you said, 159 00:06:41,568 --> 00:06:42,727 and I think 160 00:06:42,894 --> 00:06:44,871 - that's fair to say. - Okay. 161 00:06:45,438 --> 00:06:47,507 Madison, what's your point of view on this? 162 00:06:47,607 --> 00:06:51,311 I definitely don't think that Craig was enjoying it. 163 00:06:51,411 --> 00:06:54,814 I think his whole life just kind of blew up in front of him. 164 00:06:54,981 --> 00:06:56,916 Everything just shattered. 165 00:06:57,083 --> 00:06:59,119 ANDY: Venita, we got a lot of posts from viewers 166 00:06:59,286 --> 00:07:03,156 wondering why you weren't more loyal on Craig's side of things. 167 00:07:03,290 --> 00:07:05,583 Cindy23 said, 168 00:07:05,717 --> 00:07:08,420 "Didn't Craig jump in the pool last season to rescue her?" 169 00:07:08,586 --> 00:07:10,997 [Venita screams] 170 00:07:11,097 --> 00:07:13,433 - Oh, my God. - CRAIG: Okay, I got her. 171 00:07:14,334 --> 00:07:16,970 - Craig just jumped in. - MOLLY: Oh, my God. 172 00:07:17,137 --> 00:07:18,638 AUSTEN: Craig. 173 00:07:18,738 --> 00:07:21,207 I think my thoughts are that's nice and dandy, 174 00:07:21,374 --> 00:07:24,411 and I texted Craig multiple times after that happened, 175 00:07:24,577 --> 00:07:26,338 thanking him for weeks on end. 176 00:07:26,504 --> 00:07:29,716 But I'm not going to sit here and allow you to act like 177 00:07:29,816 --> 00:07:32,786 you want to be my friend when we're not sitting in this group. 178 00:07:32,919 --> 00:07:34,521 - I-- - You do not reach out to me. 179 00:07:34,621 --> 00:07:35,956 Please let me talk because you do this 180 00:07:36,089 --> 00:07:37,223 for everyone in this group. 181 00:07:37,324 --> 00:07:39,017 You over-speak, and you speak 182 00:07:39,117 --> 00:07:41,928 past the time that anyone else is given. 183 00:07:42,028 --> 00:07:44,514 You burnt the bridge and then ask why I don't visit. 184 00:07:44,614 --> 00:07:47,067 - Yeah, I don't have any desire. - I burnt the bridge last year. 185 00:07:47,233 --> 00:07:49,636 What were the years prior to that? 186 00:07:49,769 --> 00:07:51,096 CRAIG: We don't know each other. 187 00:07:51,196 --> 00:07:53,673 We don't have a relationship. We never have. 188 00:07:53,773 --> 00:07:55,575 And I didn't think what you did to me was nice, 189 00:07:55,709 --> 00:07:56,976 and I've always been nice to you, 190 00:07:57,143 --> 00:07:58,603 and I will continue to be nice to you. 191 00:07:58,703 --> 00:08:00,246 - You're being nice right now? - CRAIG: Yes. 192 00:08:00,413 --> 00:08:03,216 I'm just telling you how I feel. It's nothing against you. 193 00:08:03,350 --> 00:08:05,385 VENITA: You're overtalking, and you're interrupting, 194 00:08:05,452 --> 00:08:07,320 and I can't get my words out, and it's never a, 195 00:08:07,454 --> 00:08:09,489 "Oh, I didn't realize," or "Oh, I could see your side." 196 00:08:09,656 --> 00:08:13,059 It's just like, "I did nothing wrong" every time you speak. 197 00:08:13,126 --> 00:08:15,095 CRAIG: Venita, the things that you say about me 198 00:08:15,228 --> 00:08:17,797 are actually, like-- They're really nasty. 199 00:08:17,897 --> 00:08:19,733 And you know what I can do? I can apologize for that. 200 00:08:19,833 --> 00:08:21,384 I'm very sorry for saying the nasty things 201 00:08:21,484 --> 00:08:22,902 about you, and let me say it again. 202 00:08:23,069 --> 00:08:24,829 I am sorry for saying those things. 203 00:08:24,963 --> 00:08:26,306 Well, thank you, Venita. 204 00:08:26,473 --> 00:08:28,475 'Cause I can apologize for that, and there is no but after. 205 00:08:28,608 --> 00:08:30,777 ANDY: Venita, you seemed really hurt by Salley 206 00:08:30,944 --> 00:08:35,014 kind of choosing Craig over your friendship. 207 00:08:35,148 --> 00:08:36,416 That never happened. 208 00:08:36,483 --> 00:08:38,451 ANDY: Why did it become an either-or for you? 209 00:08:38,618 --> 00:08:39,953 - Did it? - No. 210 00:08:40,086 --> 00:08:41,621 I don't think it ever became an either-or. 211 00:08:41,721 --> 00:08:43,590 I think my emotions were so heightened, 212 00:08:43,690 --> 00:08:46,059 but I understand now, watching it back, 213 00:08:46,226 --> 00:08:47,911 how aggressive it came across. 214 00:08:48,011 --> 00:08:50,096 And for that, I'm going to apologize to you, Salley, 215 00:08:50,230 --> 00:08:51,965 for coming across so aggressive. 216 00:08:52,132 --> 00:08:56,002 I think it was more so, Salley and I are best friends, 217 00:08:56,102 --> 00:08:59,030 and I know what Salley wants, and that, in my head, 218 00:08:59,164 --> 00:09:00,774 I was just like, "Okay, let me try to make sure 219 00:09:00,907 --> 00:09:02,609 "I'm steering her in the right direction, 220 00:09:02,742 --> 00:09:06,146 "helping her as her friend, and Craig is not her end game." 221 00:09:06,312 --> 00:09:10,550 And so, Venita and Salley, are you two good these days? 222 00:09:10,717 --> 00:09:11,985 - Yeah. - Are you? 223 00:09:12,118 --> 00:09:13,720 - Yeah, when? - VENITA: I mean, I think-- 224 00:09:13,887 --> 00:09:15,989 - Because I feel like-- - Good is loose. 225 00:09:16,156 --> 00:09:18,725 I think we're working towards being better, 226 00:09:18,892 --> 00:09:21,027 within the last couple of weeks, like, at her birthday party, 227 00:09:21,194 --> 00:09:22,796 she kind of made me feel like shit. 228 00:09:22,862 --> 00:09:25,331 - Yeah, y'all were crying. - Messing up her birthday party. 229 00:09:25,498 --> 00:09:26,966 Yeah, she said that I made her cry and stuff. 230 00:09:27,100 --> 00:09:28,468 SALLEY: Well, it makes me feel like shit, 231 00:09:28,601 --> 00:09:30,070 because we have a very deep friendship, 232 00:09:30,203 --> 00:09:32,338 and I feel like things have shifted. 233 00:09:32,439 --> 00:09:35,308 You haven't really wanted to be in pictures with me. 234 00:09:35,475 --> 00:09:36,810 You don't want me to post with you. 235 00:09:36,910 --> 00:09:38,912 And I feel like you're honestly, like, 236 00:09:39,079 --> 00:09:42,582 sometimes ashamed to, like, call me your friend. 237 00:09:43,883 --> 00:09:45,543 And it makes me sad. 238 00:09:46,453 --> 00:09:48,505 - Damn. - SALLEY: It really does. 239 00:09:55,111 --> 00:09:57,222 SALLEY: We have a very deep friendship 240 00:09:57,355 --> 00:09:58,756 and I feel like things have shifted. 241 00:09:58,923 --> 00:10:01,568 You haven't really wanted to be in pictures with me. 242 00:10:01,668 --> 00:10:03,261 You don't want me to post with you. 243 00:10:03,394 --> 00:10:05,396 And I feel like you're honestly, like, 244 00:10:05,563 --> 00:10:09,025 sometimes ashamed to, like, call me your friend. 245 00:10:10,643 --> 00:10:13,496 - And it makes me sad. - Damn. 246 00:10:13,596 --> 00:10:15,406 SALLEY: Or like, when fans are out, and they're like, 247 00:10:15,540 --> 00:10:17,000 "Hey, can we take a picture together? 248 00:10:17,100 --> 00:10:18,501 And you're like, "We can't be seen together." 249 00:10:18,601 --> 00:10:20,178 It just hurts my feelings. 250 00:10:20,278 --> 00:10:22,080 Yeah, because on the back end of that I'm getting called stupid 251 00:10:22,213 --> 00:10:23,840 for having your back and like going... 252 00:10:23,940 --> 00:10:25,550 - For what? - ...and standing up for you, 253 00:10:25,717 --> 00:10:27,285 for you to then turn around and just play me like a fool 254 00:10:27,385 --> 00:10:29,254 - in the friendship game. - When did I play you? 255 00:10:29,387 --> 00:10:31,564 VENITA: Watching it back should explain it enough. 256 00:10:32,465 --> 00:10:35,401 Venita, you're trashing me the entire fucking show. 257 00:10:35,502 --> 00:10:36,936 I've said one thing in my green screen, 258 00:10:37,036 --> 00:10:38,638 it's calling you immature. 259 00:10:38,805 --> 00:10:41,933 Venita, why you gotta always leave so fucking dramatically? 260 00:10:42,066 --> 00:10:45,445 Oh, I am dramatic, I'm dramatic. 261 00:10:45,545 --> 00:10:47,272 You are. 262 00:10:47,438 --> 00:10:49,716 I think Venita is being very immature. 263 00:10:49,849 --> 00:10:52,619 And I'm not putting up with Venita's shit anymore. 264 00:10:52,719 --> 00:10:54,087 I'm not. 265 00:10:54,254 --> 00:10:56,756 What specifically from the show, Venita, are you seeing? 266 00:10:56,856 --> 00:10:59,425 I shouldn't say show, I should say the screenshots that I get 267 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,286 of comments and DMs of people being like, 268 00:11:01,419 --> 00:11:02,829 "This is the type of friend you have, 269 00:11:02,996 --> 00:11:04,497 "this is the type of person you wanna be with." 270 00:11:04,664 --> 00:11:06,157 Who are these people? They are not your friends. 271 00:11:06,257 --> 00:11:08,101 - VENITA: Yeah, I know. - They don't know me. 272 00:11:08,201 --> 00:11:09,736 - You know me. - VENITA: Yeah. 273 00:11:09,903 --> 00:11:12,772 And that fucking hurts that you let them get to you. 274 00:11:12,906 --> 00:11:14,207 - That hurts. - I'm sorry, but I'm gonna-- 275 00:11:14,374 --> 00:11:15,642 Like, that makes me literally wanna cry. 276 00:11:15,808 --> 00:11:17,076 But I'm gonna speak my truth, 277 00:11:17,243 --> 00:11:18,778 but I'm sorry it does hurt your feelings. 278 00:11:18,878 --> 00:11:20,772 Well, so what's it gonna take to get you two back? 279 00:11:20,905 --> 00:11:24,734 Because it's actually, it seems like you really miss each other 280 00:11:24,834 --> 00:11:27,053 - and it doesn't seem that deep. - Yeah. No, it's not. 281 00:11:27,187 --> 00:11:29,906 And I don't think you should let what viewers are commenting, 282 00:11:30,006 --> 00:11:32,125 - you're too smart for that. - I know, but you know, 283 00:11:32,292 --> 00:11:34,427 we all fall into the trap sometimes, you know? 284 00:11:34,561 --> 00:11:37,764 And, like, with this, sorry, I'm not gonna-- whoo. 285 00:11:37,931 --> 00:11:38,932 Mm-mm. 286 00:11:39,766 --> 00:11:42,252 - Oh, my God, am I gonna cry? - ANDY: You can cry, it's okay. 287 00:11:42,352 --> 00:11:44,704 - I have a Kleenex. - MADISON: It's a lot. 288 00:11:44,804 --> 00:11:46,256 My makeup's too good for this shit. 289 00:11:46,356 --> 00:11:47,974 - Yeah, right. - MADISON: Yes, you're hot. 290 00:11:48,074 --> 00:11:49,667 Yeah, I'm hot, I'm hot, I'm hot. 291 00:11:49,834 --> 00:11:51,970 I think the thing that got to me the most, 292 00:11:52,103 --> 00:11:54,347 and, like, no offense to anyone on this couch, 293 00:11:54,447 --> 00:11:57,475 I did not open myself up in any way 294 00:11:57,642 --> 00:11:59,619 to anyone else the way I did Salley. 295 00:11:59,786 --> 00:12:01,621 Oh, my God, I'm actually crying. 296 00:12:01,754 --> 00:12:04,123 That's okay. That's because you love her. 297 00:12:04,224 --> 00:12:05,959 I miss you, like, a lot. 298 00:12:06,125 --> 00:12:07,819 So, like, that hurt my feelings, you know? 299 00:12:07,952 --> 00:12:09,320 So it's just like, I-- So when I-- 300 00:12:09,487 --> 00:12:10,897 Anyway, I can't even talk right now, I'm sorry. 301 00:12:11,064 --> 00:12:12,490 - ANDY: You're good. - Yeah. 302 00:12:12,624 --> 00:12:14,067 - You're good. - VENITA: It's not that deep. 303 00:12:14,234 --> 00:12:16,669 ANDY: Well, but it is because you're crying, so. 304 00:12:16,803 --> 00:12:19,564 - It was a genuine friendship. - Yeah, and I miss that. 305 00:12:19,731 --> 00:12:22,242 Like, I hate that we have this stupid squabble over nothing. 306 00:12:22,342 --> 00:12:23,626 I do too. 307 00:12:23,726 --> 00:12:25,445 MADISON: I will say, this is the first time 308 00:12:25,612 --> 00:12:27,238 in, like, "Southern Charm" history 309 00:12:27,372 --> 00:12:30,575 that every single one of us are genuine friends. 310 00:12:30,708 --> 00:12:32,510 - Yeah. - MADISON: We all hang out... 311 00:12:32,644 --> 00:12:34,821 - Yeah, I get that vibe. - ...outside of filming. 312 00:12:34,954 --> 00:12:36,522 We're like, "Wait, I miss you. 313 00:12:36,623 --> 00:12:39,826 "I haven't seen you, you know, five days in a row." 314 00:12:39,959 --> 00:12:43,388 So it is, like, everybody's emotions are involved. 315 00:12:43,521 --> 00:12:45,148 Yeah, there was a moment that, like, 316 00:12:45,248 --> 00:12:47,483 I literally thought I was dying and I called Salley 317 00:12:47,583 --> 00:12:49,152 and Salley was at my house in six minutes. 318 00:12:49,252 --> 00:12:51,562 Mind you, she lives 15 minutes away from me. [laughs] 319 00:12:51,696 --> 00:12:53,773 I was literally, and then the first person I see 320 00:12:53,940 --> 00:12:55,500 - when I wake up.. - VENITA: From your appendix. 321 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,036 ...from my operation is Venita smiling in my face. 322 00:12:58,202 --> 00:13:00,104 All right, Austen and Craig, take fucking notes 323 00:13:00,271 --> 00:13:01,714 because that's how you mend a friendship. 324 00:13:01,881 --> 00:13:03,616 - Yeah, right. - That was a therapy session. 325 00:13:03,783 --> 00:13:07,045 We'll talk to them in six more years of doing this for them 326 00:13:07,178 --> 00:13:08,746 and see how they handle it. 327 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,658 And then we'll take lessons because we do need lessons. 328 00:13:11,791 --> 00:13:14,193 ANDY: Well, let's switch gears. 329 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,830 After incubating herself in Craig's hot tub, 330 00:13:17,930 --> 00:13:21,067 - Salley was hellbent... - Do you want the tissue? 331 00:13:21,234 --> 00:13:23,061 ANDY: ...on becoming Craig's number one chick. 332 00:13:23,194 --> 00:13:24,937 - Fucking hate that. - But that relationship 333 00:13:25,038 --> 00:13:28,599 ultimately never hatched once Salley realized 334 00:13:28,733 --> 00:13:30,843 she wasn't first in the pecking order. 335 00:13:30,943 --> 00:13:33,613 Me and you have obviously gotten to be really good friends, 336 00:13:33,780 --> 00:13:36,074 but, like... [sighs] 337 00:13:36,207 --> 00:13:38,985 ...I've been kind of catching some feelings. 338 00:13:41,045 --> 00:13:42,889 I'm not-- I'm saying I'm liking you. 339 00:13:42,989 --> 00:13:45,116 Like, I can date you. 340 00:13:47,085 --> 00:13:48,953 Yeah, I mean-- Like, 341 00:13:49,087 --> 00:13:51,956 Yeah, I just-- I don't see it. 342 00:13:53,591 --> 00:13:55,735 Salley, what was it about him that made you-- 343 00:13:55,902 --> 00:13:57,829 It was strictly his looks. 344 00:13:57,995 --> 00:14:00,465 - [all laughing] - Yes. 345 00:14:00,598 --> 00:14:02,900 Just a hot piece of ass, yeah. 346 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,269 - Show pony. - A piece of meat. 347 00:14:05,403 --> 00:14:08,548 Craig, was there ever any serious interest in Salley? 348 00:14:08,648 --> 00:14:13,086 I mean, I honestly just was so drawn to you as-- 349 00:14:13,219 --> 00:14:14,954 It sounds weird to say, 350 00:14:15,054 --> 00:14:17,824 like, I just saw you as like a sister, like, yeah. 351 00:14:17,990 --> 00:14:20,760 Well, let's talk about the text to Salley 352 00:14:20,860 --> 00:14:22,186 after that first hot tub party, 353 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,397 which in Salley wrote, "That was fun." 354 00:14:24,497 --> 00:14:26,991 You responded, "Yeah, it was." 355 00:14:27,158 --> 00:14:29,569 Salley wrote, "I should have stayed." 356 00:14:29,736 --> 00:14:31,120 You responded... 357 00:14:33,164 --> 00:14:34,866 - So scandalous. - ANDY: Now... 358 00:14:35,032 --> 00:14:36,467 Kind of. Yeah. 359 00:14:36,634 --> 00:14:37,944 ANDY: ...I would interpret that text 360 00:14:38,077 --> 00:14:43,449 as I could have slept with Craig Conover 361 00:14:43,616 --> 00:14:45,143 - that night. - Mm-hmm. 362 00:14:45,276 --> 00:14:47,220 ANDY: You say that you were just being nice, 363 00:14:47,386 --> 00:14:48,788 but what did you mean by that? 364 00:14:48,921 --> 00:14:50,656 Yeah, I was just being like, she was gone 365 00:14:50,757 --> 00:14:52,350 and she was like, "I should have stayed." 366 00:14:52,483 --> 00:14:54,227 And I was like, "Well, you could always stay." 367 00:14:54,327 --> 00:14:55,828 I shouldn't have sent it because maybe my judgment was-- 368 00:14:55,928 --> 00:14:57,497 SHEP: It's double meaning. It could mean two things. 369 00:14:57,663 --> 00:14:59,132 CRAIG: If I was you, I would have been like, 370 00:14:59,298 --> 00:15:00,633 "Oh, damn, I should have stayed." 371 00:15:00,733 --> 00:15:02,226 ANDY: Craig, you also said that during 372 00:15:02,326 --> 00:15:05,471 the hot tub get-togethers, no one ever kissed. 373 00:15:05,638 --> 00:15:07,623 Well, so there was a night 374 00:15:07,723 --> 00:15:10,802 that Salley and Kory had gone off somewhere 375 00:15:10,902 --> 00:15:13,846 and Charley, I showed my sewing room to. 376 00:15:14,013 --> 00:15:15,673 ALL: Ooh. 377 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,617 - I did. Do you remember? - Your sewing dungeon? 378 00:15:17,717 --> 00:15:21,379 And I was like-- I said-- I basically was like-- 379 00:15:21,546 --> 00:15:23,523 like, should I-- Like, I went to kiss her. 380 00:15:23,689 --> 00:15:26,259 You said you can kiss me right now if you want. 381 00:15:26,426 --> 00:15:28,553 - And I said, "I don't want to." - What? 382 00:15:28,719 --> 00:15:30,721 - Yes. - I don't remember what I said. 383 00:15:30,888 --> 00:15:32,932 You said, "You can kiss me if you want." 384 00:15:33,099 --> 00:15:34,258 And I was like, "I'm okay." 385 00:15:34,358 --> 00:15:37,094 - [laughter] - CRAIG: God. 386 00:15:37,261 --> 00:15:40,540 Wouldn't the right thing to say be, "Can I kiss you?" 387 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,767 Yeah, who knows all this? And my moves aren't great. 388 00:15:42,934 --> 00:15:45,027 You have my permission. 389 00:15:46,237 --> 00:15:48,206 - AUSTEN: Proceed. - Proceed. 390 00:15:48,739 --> 00:15:52,210 I will say that one sense that I've gotten from you 391 00:15:52,376 --> 00:15:55,213 over the years, as we've talked about you dating girls, 392 00:15:55,346 --> 00:16:00,159 as we talk about it in relation to Austen or Shep's game 393 00:16:00,326 --> 00:16:03,396 is you do seem like of the three of them 394 00:16:03,529 --> 00:16:06,566 to be the most kind of chaste of everybody. 395 00:16:06,666 --> 00:16:09,185 I just won't hook up with someone unless I like them. 396 00:16:09,285 --> 00:16:12,555 Like, I'd rather just go home by myself and do myself. 397 00:16:13,397 --> 00:16:15,633 - Do yourself. - Do yourself. 398 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,911 You shake hands with Ben Franklin by yourself, huh? 399 00:16:19,078 --> 00:16:21,747 Now, I can't take up for you anymore. 400 00:16:21,881 --> 00:16:23,641 He's just standing in front of the mirror. 401 00:16:23,808 --> 00:16:27,069 - You can kiss me now. - CRAIG: That's what I said? 402 00:16:27,987 --> 00:16:30,556 Salley, you talked about wanting babies, 403 00:16:30,656 --> 00:16:33,150 but you ended up with chickens. 404 00:16:33,284 --> 00:16:34,794 All right, come here. 405 00:16:34,894 --> 00:16:38,231 I'm terrified of Popcorn. [screams] 406 00:16:38,631 --> 00:16:40,157 I fucking hate those chickens. 407 00:16:40,291 --> 00:16:42,935 The viewers had a lot to say about the chickens. 408 00:16:43,102 --> 00:16:44,937 BravoLover on Twitter said, 409 00:16:45,071 --> 00:16:47,665 "Salley buying chickens to impress Craig, oh, man." 410 00:16:47,765 --> 00:16:49,225 Show of hands, who thought 411 00:16:49,325 --> 00:16:51,510 buying the chickens was to attract Craig? 412 00:16:53,779 --> 00:16:55,731 - What the fuck? - [Austen stammers] 413 00:16:55,831 --> 00:16:57,950 - We talked about it. - I know that, but I watched it. 414 00:16:58,084 --> 00:17:01,178 - I just thought it was stupid. - AUSTEN: It looked very like, 415 00:17:01,345 --> 00:17:02,622 "Hey, we're raising chickens together." 416 00:17:02,788 --> 00:17:04,190 Okay, but no one saw the conversation 417 00:17:04,290 --> 00:17:05,892 - about the chickens. - [laughter] 418 00:17:05,992 --> 00:17:08,352 ANDY: I want to come back to, 419 00:17:08,486 --> 00:17:11,355 you kind of went after both Craig and Austen this season, 420 00:17:11,522 --> 00:17:13,583 and I wonder if you learned anything more 421 00:17:13,683 --> 00:17:16,661 about what you're looking for in a man as a result. 422 00:17:17,336 --> 00:17:19,330 - No. - ANDY: No. 423 00:17:19,463 --> 00:17:20,640 [laughter] 424 00:17:20,806 --> 00:17:23,434 No, actually, I wouldn't say that because... 425 00:17:23,834 --> 00:17:25,261 I think me and Austen 426 00:17:25,361 --> 00:17:27,597 have a really good foundation of, like, friendship. 427 00:17:27,697 --> 00:17:29,473 I'm not saying anything's ever going to happen there, 428 00:17:29,607 --> 00:17:32,543 but I genuinely think that Austen is a really good guy, 429 00:17:32,710 --> 00:17:35,087 and I think he's going to make a great husband and a great dad. 430 00:17:35,187 --> 00:17:36,647 - That's so sweet. - I know. 431 00:17:36,781 --> 00:17:38,391 Thank you for saying that. That's very sweet. 432 00:17:38,491 --> 00:17:39,850 - MADISON: Make out. - Very sweet. 433 00:17:39,984 --> 00:17:41,961 - Make out. - SALLEY: I can't put-- 434 00:17:42,061 --> 00:17:45,222 He's going to make a great father to your children. 435 00:17:45,389 --> 00:17:47,450 We're going to be some fun dads, I'll tell you that. 436 00:17:47,550 --> 00:17:49,635 Well, you guys are about to age the fuck out. 437 00:17:49,802 --> 00:17:52,655 - Shut up, Madison. - [laughter] 438 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:55,533 ANDY: Up next... 439 00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:58,411 Charley, did you love bomb Craig? 440 00:18:05,643 --> 00:18:07,386 ANDY: Look at the hair and makeup that comes in 441 00:18:07,553 --> 00:18:09,422 for these Charmers. 442 00:18:09,555 --> 00:18:11,674 Like, look at the hairspray on Craig. 443 00:18:13,459 --> 00:18:14,660 And Austen, too. 444 00:18:14,794 --> 00:18:18,731 I mean, these boys are divas. 445 00:18:18,864 --> 00:18:24,662 Everybody settle in. Five, four, three, two. 446 00:18:24,762 --> 00:18:26,272 Welcome back. 447 00:18:26,405 --> 00:18:28,032 This season we were joined 448 00:18:28,165 --> 00:18:30,409 by an art consultant named Charley, 449 00:18:30,543 --> 00:18:34,513 and Whitner, a well-read attorney, 450 00:18:34,647 --> 00:18:38,084 or what Craig would call a lawyer and a story reader. 451 00:18:38,250 --> 00:18:40,052 [laughter] 452 00:18:40,186 --> 00:18:44,023 Whit, what surprised you most about your first season? 453 00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:45,558 - Um... - The DMs. 454 00:18:45,691 --> 00:18:47,026 Probably the most surprising thing. 455 00:18:47,159 --> 00:18:48,919 - Yeah, I'll give you that one. - Really? 456 00:18:49,053 --> 00:18:50,863 Just a lot of women 457 00:18:50,963 --> 00:18:52,623 - reaching out to you? - WHIT: Oh, yeah. 458 00:18:52,790 --> 00:18:54,600 What's wild is that some of them are just completely unsolicited, 459 00:18:54,734 --> 00:18:56,293 and this one person sent me some-- 460 00:18:56,460 --> 00:18:58,137 I would assume most of them are. 461 00:18:58,304 --> 00:19:00,473 Then, after sending me the explicit, like, offer, 462 00:19:00,606 --> 00:19:02,742 like, explicit offer, gave me three voice memos 463 00:19:02,875 --> 00:19:04,577 lecturing me about not becoming a fuckboy. 464 00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:07,646 I was like, "The mixed messaging here is confusing me." 465 00:19:07,780 --> 00:19:09,982 Whit, your mom got a lot of love from viewers. 466 00:19:10,149 --> 00:19:11,751 - Good. - [indistinct] said, 467 00:19:11,884 --> 00:19:15,054 "10 out of 10 would date Whitner only to hang out with his mom." 468 00:19:15,154 --> 00:19:17,089 - I've heard that before. - She's great. 469 00:19:17,223 --> 00:19:18,557 ANDY: We also got a lot of comments 470 00:19:18,724 --> 00:19:20,551 about your literary-themed birthday party. 471 00:19:20,651 --> 00:19:23,788 MOLLY: Some girls dress up like Salley and Venita. 472 00:19:24,655 --> 00:19:26,232 Some girls are Gandalf. 473 00:19:26,365 --> 00:19:27,600 - Yup. - ANDY: Shep, fans wanted 474 00:19:27,733 --> 00:19:28,993 to know why you didn't tell Craig 475 00:19:29,126 --> 00:19:31,637 that Rufio is not in the book Peter Pan. 476 00:19:31,804 --> 00:19:34,407 - He's only in the movie. - [laughter] 477 00:19:34,507 --> 00:19:38,344 I don't really—- I wasn't all that into Peter Pan. 478 00:19:38,477 --> 00:19:40,312 - I don't know. - Shep had eyes for me that day. 479 00:19:40,446 --> 00:19:42,281 - He didn't care. - SHEP: Yeah, that's right. 480 00:19:42,448 --> 00:19:45,317 - I'm Shepard Rose. - Oh, my God. 481 00:19:45,451 --> 00:19:49,105 He's a literary figure, right? He wrote a book. 482 00:19:50,189 --> 00:19:51,924 I mean, you nailed it. 483 00:19:52,024 --> 00:19:53,592 Imitation's the best form of flattery. 484 00:19:53,692 --> 00:19:55,327 Yeah, that was the biggest compliment. 485 00:19:55,461 --> 00:19:57,621 - That was great. - MADISON: I even practiced, 486 00:19:57,755 --> 00:19:59,598 like, my long-winded speech. 487 00:19:59,765 --> 00:20:00,966 Oh, boy. 488 00:20:01,133 --> 00:20:03,269 Charley, you came in as the new girl. 489 00:20:03,402 --> 00:20:04,837 Everyone had eyes on you. 490 00:20:04,970 --> 00:20:06,864 - That's Charley. - Yeah. 491 00:20:06,997 --> 00:20:09,141 Yeah, I know Charley. 492 00:20:09,275 --> 00:20:10,810 She's a good-looking girl. 493 00:20:10,943 --> 00:20:13,629 She's the girl that Shep's been, like, obsessed with. 494 00:20:15,005 --> 00:20:16,482 Was that overwhelming? 495 00:20:16,615 --> 00:20:19,151 I think that this group in general is overwhelming. 496 00:20:19,318 --> 00:20:21,212 Love y'all, but, like, just, like, 497 00:20:21,345 --> 00:20:23,589 everything that you do, being under a microscope. 498 00:20:23,689 --> 00:20:25,057 But I don't think-- 499 00:20:25,191 --> 00:20:27,460 I feel like I, like, knew that coming into it. 500 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,728 Salley, you're the one who brought Charley into the group. 501 00:20:29,862 --> 00:20:31,197 Did you ever suspect 502 00:20:31,330 --> 00:20:33,399 you two would be kind of circling the same guy? 503 00:20:33,532 --> 00:20:36,535 - Not really, but, like, I-- - Really? 504 00:20:36,669 --> 00:20:38,738 ANDY: Did you pick up on any vibes 505 00:20:38,871 --> 00:20:40,973 between them in your group hot tubs? 506 00:20:41,073 --> 00:20:42,299 - No. - ANDY: No. 507 00:20:42,399 --> 00:20:43,776 SALLEY: And it was near the end. 508 00:20:43,876 --> 00:20:45,511 Do you think she was downplaying her interests? 509 00:20:45,644 --> 00:20:47,246 1,000%, and I definitely think, 510 00:20:47,413 --> 00:20:49,248 like, all of us would be together all the time. 511 00:20:49,381 --> 00:20:50,750 We'd go to dinners. We'd go to out. 512 00:20:50,883 --> 00:20:53,486 And, like, then y'all started texting 513 00:20:53,619 --> 00:20:56,055 outside of The Cult, which I didn't know happened. 514 00:20:56,188 --> 00:20:57,648 - The Cult. - Whatever. 515 00:20:57,748 --> 00:20:59,525 - Because it was secretive. - Your hot tub group. 516 00:20:59,692 --> 00:21:01,160 Yeah, it was secretive. So I'm not knowing. 517 00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:02,461 I'm in the dark on all of this. 518 00:21:02,561 --> 00:21:04,155 I have no idea that they're texting. 519 00:21:04,255 --> 00:21:06,365 I have no idea that they're FaceTiming all the time. 520 00:21:06,499 --> 00:21:07,900 That's where my frustration lies, 521 00:21:08,033 --> 00:21:09,368 is that I don't think that you were truthful 522 00:21:09,502 --> 00:21:11,403 from the get-go of your interest in Craig. 523 00:21:11,570 --> 00:21:14,406 Because everyone wanted to be, like, "Yes, I like Craig." 524 00:21:14,573 --> 00:21:16,000 And I'm, like, "I don't know him yet. 525 00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:17,543 "Let me get to know him." 526 00:21:17,676 --> 00:21:19,578 ANDY: Charley, did you think Salley was trying to ruin 527 00:21:19,745 --> 00:21:21,747 your relationship with Craig? 528 00:21:21,881 --> 00:21:23,249 At times, it felt like that. 529 00:21:23,382 --> 00:21:25,885 I knew, like, subconsciously that you, like, 530 00:21:26,018 --> 00:21:27,353 had something to say about it all the time. 531 00:21:27,486 --> 00:21:29,188 Well, you also didn't want to talk about it 532 00:21:29,288 --> 00:21:31,190 because you wanted it to be a secret. 533 00:21:31,290 --> 00:21:33,459 It's not that, like, I wanted it to be a secret. 534 00:21:33,626 --> 00:21:36,328 It's that I wanted to form my own opinion on him. 535 00:21:36,428 --> 00:21:38,197 - And which is totally fine. - Yeah. 536 00:21:38,297 --> 00:21:40,299 SALLEY: But we've never done friendship that way. 537 00:21:40,432 --> 00:21:42,301 It's like there's not a night that she would go out and, 538 00:21:42,468 --> 00:21:43,794 like, even if she got a guy's number, 539 00:21:43,928 --> 00:21:45,538 she would call me and tell me about it. 540 00:21:45,671 --> 00:21:47,640 How many months were you guys friends before this? 541 00:21:47,806 --> 00:21:49,875 - Not a long time. - Like, five months? 542 00:21:50,009 --> 00:21:51,544 - A year. - Y'all throw the word 543 00:21:51,710 --> 00:21:54,346 "best friend" around so hard that I fucking hate it. 544 00:21:54,446 --> 00:21:56,248 I know you're no longer dating Craig, 545 00:21:56,382 --> 00:21:58,551 - but are you dating anyone? - Yeah, I am. 546 00:21:59,285 --> 00:22:00,920 - Really? What can you tell us? - CHARLEY: Yeah. 547 00:22:01,053 --> 00:22:03,647 He's from Boston. 548 00:22:03,781 --> 00:22:05,824 He's on "Southern Hospitality." 549 00:22:05,958 --> 00:22:07,793 He works at a club. 550 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,320 - Who is it? - It's Justin. 551 00:22:09,486 --> 00:22:10,896 - ANDY: Justin? - CHARLEY: Yeah. 552 00:22:11,030 --> 00:22:12,698 - ANDY: Craig, do you know him? - Yeah. 553 00:22:12,798 --> 00:22:14,700 I always say hi to him when he comes in the bar. 554 00:22:14,834 --> 00:22:16,101 ANDY: Okay. 555 00:22:16,268 --> 00:22:18,037 - CRAIG: I mean, there was-- - Sounds great. 556 00:22:18,137 --> 00:22:19,271 Okay, I'll move on. 557 00:22:19,438 --> 00:22:21,040 CRAIG: Well, Austen had to tell me, 558 00:22:21,173 --> 00:22:22,675 yeah, Austen had to tell me in Vegas because Charley and I 559 00:22:22,842 --> 00:22:23,734 - were still, like... - That's right. 560 00:22:23,834 --> 00:22:25,110 hanging out and finally 561 00:22:25,244 --> 00:22:26,745 Austen sat me down in Vegas and he was like, 562 00:22:26,912 --> 00:22:28,347 "Dude, whatever she's telling you 563 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,182 "that she's not talking to someone, I met him." 564 00:22:30,349 --> 00:22:31,784 He's like, "He's real. 565 00:22:31,917 --> 00:22:33,577 "She brought him to the bar and said, 'I'm in love.'" 566 00:22:33,677 --> 00:22:36,589 I never said I was not talking to anyone. 567 00:22:36,689 --> 00:22:38,357 I gave you a lot of chances to tell me 568 00:22:38,524 --> 00:22:40,159 you were talking to someone else and you actually never did. 569 00:22:40,292 --> 00:22:42,628 And then Salley was like, "Craig, you need to know this. 570 00:22:42,795 --> 00:22:44,263 "She's talking to two other guys." 571 00:22:44,430 --> 00:22:46,190 And then I asked you, you took my hand and you said, 572 00:22:46,323 --> 00:22:47,466 "I'm not talking to anyone else." 573 00:22:47,633 --> 00:22:49,668 - And then-- - That did not happen. 574 00:22:49,802 --> 00:22:51,804 I swear to God that did not happen. 575 00:22:51,937 --> 00:22:54,840 What would it matter? Because weren't you broken up? 576 00:22:54,974 --> 00:22:57,101 - We were not, we were not... - We were never dating. 577 00:22:57,201 --> 00:22:58,969 ...together, like, we went on two dates. 578 00:22:59,103 --> 00:23:01,280 CRAIG: On camera, but we would always go out. 579 00:23:01,413 --> 00:23:02,681 I was strung on. 580 00:23:02,815 --> 00:23:04,650 I feel like I was a little, like, 581 00:23:04,783 --> 00:23:06,777 I can't believe I know what this means now because-- 582 00:23:06,877 --> 00:23:09,455 - You feel like you were gaslit? - I was love bombed. 583 00:23:09,588 --> 00:23:10,856 - You were love bombed? - I was. 584 00:23:11,023 --> 00:23:12,725 - Shit. - You said all of this stuff 585 00:23:12,892 --> 00:23:14,426 for me and, like, you were FaceTiming me 586 00:23:14,526 --> 00:23:16,028 from your friend's weddings and, like, it started to be 587 00:23:16,161 --> 00:23:17,863 the talk of the town, but then I was like... 588 00:23:17,997 --> 00:23:19,298 - The town? - CRAIG: ..."Oh, my God, 589 00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:20,824 - that's what love bombing is." - No. 590 00:23:20,958 --> 00:23:22,735 Like, there was some future planning from you. 591 00:23:22,868 --> 00:23:24,603 ANDY: Charley, did you love bomb Craig? 592 00:23:24,737 --> 00:23:26,438 I do not feel like I love bombed him. 593 00:23:26,572 --> 00:23:27,873 You made it seem to me 594 00:23:28,007 --> 00:23:30,075 like we were going to make it out of filming. 595 00:23:30,242 --> 00:23:31,844 ANDY: Craig, had Salley not been involved in the picture, 596 00:23:31,977 --> 00:23:33,345 do you think things would have worked out? 597 00:23:33,479 --> 00:23:35,147 - Yeah. - SALLEY: That's crazy. 598 00:23:35,314 --> 00:23:36,682 Look, Charley's shaking her head. 599 00:23:36,849 --> 00:23:38,984 CHARLEY: I don't-- I don't-- No, I told you, 600 00:23:39,118 --> 00:23:41,378 in Mexico, I completely felt different after that. 601 00:23:41,512 --> 00:23:43,756 But at the end of the season, you said, 602 00:23:43,922 --> 00:23:44,924 I can't do this anymore. 603 00:23:45,090 --> 00:23:46,358 - I did. - After the freak out 604 00:23:46,492 --> 00:23:47,860 - and everything. - Yes. 605 00:23:47,993 --> 00:23:49,353 - SALLEY: Craig, calm down. - CRAIG: Stop. 606 00:23:49,486 --> 00:23:50,854 SALLEY: Why are you yelling at me? 607 00:23:50,988 --> 00:23:52,556 Because you keep getting involved with [bleep] 608 00:23:52,690 --> 00:23:53,799 that has nothing to do with you. 609 00:23:53,899 --> 00:23:56,168 Just leave me alone. 610 00:23:56,402 --> 00:23:58,437 ♪♪♪ 611 00:23:58,570 --> 00:24:00,072 - Yes. - But I'm saying, in Mexico-- 612 00:24:00,239 --> 00:24:01,840 That's a very valid reason to be done with it. 613 00:24:02,007 --> 00:24:03,809 Whatever, Mexico happened, but I'm saying, 614 00:24:03,909 --> 00:24:06,503 up 'til Mexico, the way that you talked to me 615 00:24:06,603 --> 00:24:08,347 made it sound like you had feelings for me. 616 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:13,185 Because, like, I really thought we had, like, real feelings. 617 00:24:13,285 --> 00:24:15,287 I really thought we were something more. 618 00:24:15,454 --> 00:24:17,256 Because, Craig, I had every intention 619 00:24:17,389 --> 00:24:19,925 of continuing to, like, hang out with you afterwards. 620 00:24:20,059 --> 00:24:21,593 And then in Mexico, I decided I didn't want 621 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,921 - to do that anymore. - That's fine. 622 00:24:25,297 --> 00:24:27,399 - Are you okay? - I'm fine. 623 00:24:27,533 --> 00:24:29,034 - Are you sure? - Yes. 624 00:24:29,168 --> 00:24:31,228 - I'm not trying to upset you. - CHARLEY: It's upsetting me. 625 00:24:31,362 --> 00:24:32,629 I feel like you're trying to tell me 626 00:24:32,796 --> 00:24:34,106 how I was feeling the entire time. 627 00:24:34,273 --> 00:24:36,141 And you're trying to say to everyone, "No, like, 628 00:24:36,308 --> 00:24:37,843 "she was telling me this, she was telling me this." 629 00:24:37,976 --> 00:24:39,878 Because he's gaslighting and manipulating. 630 00:24:40,012 --> 00:24:41,271 - What? - CHARLEY: I feel like 631 00:24:41,405 --> 00:24:42,781 I was very forward. 632 00:24:42,915 --> 00:24:45,234 All I've done is said how I felt in the relationship. 633 00:24:46,485 --> 00:24:47,886 ANDY: Okay, I'm going to leave it there. 634 00:24:47,986 --> 00:24:50,489 We're going to be right back after this. 635 00:24:52,124 --> 00:24:53,592 CHARLEY: Oh, my God. 636 00:24:53,726 --> 00:24:55,194 I'm crazy that she's saying that. 637 00:24:55,327 --> 00:24:56,787 - We're almost done. - We are? 638 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,598 [indistinct chatter] 639 00:24:59,732 --> 00:25:03,252 [intriguing music playing] 640 00:25:08,540 --> 00:25:10,467 It's just, like, awful. 641 00:25:12,503 --> 00:25:13,904 - SALLEY: Hey. - Hey, I'm sorry. 642 00:25:14,004 --> 00:25:15,614 - I'm really fine, no... - SALLEY: You're doing so-- 643 00:25:15,748 --> 00:25:17,049 I'm really overwhelmed right now. 644 00:25:17,149 --> 00:25:18,917 - It's a hard day. - Yeah. 645 00:25:19,051 --> 00:25:20,586 It's your first one. It's hard. 646 00:25:20,686 --> 00:25:23,522 Like, I just, I hate not, like, 647 00:25:23,655 --> 00:25:25,591 like him telling me, like, over and over again, 648 00:25:25,758 --> 00:25:27,126 it wasn't Mexico, it wasn't Mexico. 649 00:25:27,292 --> 00:25:28,994 Like, okay, I was one foot in, one foot out, 650 00:25:29,161 --> 00:25:31,163 and then Mexico, I was like, "I don't like you anymore." 651 00:25:31,296 --> 00:25:33,424 Like, just understand that. 652 00:25:33,524 --> 00:25:34,933 CRAIG: That's bullshit. 653 00:25:35,067 --> 00:25:37,302 I was perfect until then. 654 00:25:37,436 --> 00:25:38,771 - Maybe not perfect. - No, but... 655 00:25:38,904 --> 00:25:40,873 not enough that, like, you're going to take 656 00:25:41,006 --> 00:25:43,075 some mishap and, like, say it's over. 657 00:25:43,208 --> 00:25:44,326 You were looking for a way out. 658 00:25:44,593 --> 00:25:48,005 ♪♪♪ 659 00:25:50,783 --> 00:25:53,043 SALLEY: You're up against Craig Conover. 660 00:25:53,210 --> 00:25:54,820 He's very, very good at manipulating and gaslighting. 661 00:25:54,953 --> 00:25:56,880 I mean, seriously, before Mexico, 662 00:25:57,014 --> 00:25:58,290 we would talk, like, every day. 663 00:25:58,424 --> 00:25:59,825 After Mexico, we talked one time a week. 664 00:25:59,958 --> 00:26:02,361 CREW: All right guys, heading back to set. 665 00:26:02,494 --> 00:26:04,329 MOLLY: Can you tell them she just needs a second? 666 00:26:04,463 --> 00:26:05,864 SALLEY: Charley needs a second. 667 00:26:06,031 --> 00:26:07,566 I'm really not trying to be dramatic. 668 00:26:07,699 --> 00:26:09,835 - I'm just overwhelmed. - WOMAN: You're okay. 669 00:26:09,902 --> 00:26:12,171 CREW: All right, guys, only got, like, two minutes for looks, 670 00:26:12,304 --> 00:26:15,074 so you're not doing it now, you're gonna lose time. 671 00:26:22,047 --> 00:26:24,408 Seriously, here we fucking go. 672 00:26:24,675 --> 00:26:27,152 ♪♪♪ 673 00:26:27,286 --> 00:26:31,215 Five, four, three, two... 674 00:26:32,524 --> 00:26:34,860 We are back with the "Southern Charm" reunion. 675 00:26:34,993 --> 00:26:38,263 Charley, tumultuous first season for you. 676 00:26:38,430 --> 00:26:40,432 What have you learned? 677 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,034 Yeah, I mean, just being, like, 678 00:26:42,201 --> 00:26:45,504 I've definitely had to work on my communication style, 679 00:26:45,637 --> 00:26:49,041 like, this season, in my friendships, so, 680 00:26:49,174 --> 00:26:50,676 - yeah. - ANDY: Okay. 681 00:26:50,809 --> 00:26:55,380 Well, as tensions threatened to rip this group apart, 682 00:26:55,514 --> 00:26:57,516 Shep had the idea to bring everyone 683 00:26:57,649 --> 00:26:59,751 on a restorative journey. 684 00:26:59,918 --> 00:27:03,213 But when explosive chaos ensued, 685 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,658 this gang probably needed a healing trip 686 00:27:06,792 --> 00:27:08,760 from their healing trip. 687 00:27:08,927 --> 00:27:11,113 Venita, you don't exist in my world, 688 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,798 so just fuck off. 689 00:27:13,957 --> 00:27:15,734 - SALLEY: Craig, calm down. - CRAIG: Stop. 690 00:27:15,901 --> 00:27:17,461 SALLEY: Why are you yelling at me? 691 00:27:17,628 --> 00:27:19,304 CRAIG: Because you keep getting involved with shit 692 00:27:19,438 --> 00:27:20,898 that has nothing to do with you. 693 00:27:20,964 --> 00:27:23,475 - CRAIG: Fucking loser. - SALLEY: Fucking asshole. 694 00:27:25,811 --> 00:27:27,779 Gonna need a lot more smoke than that. 695 00:27:27,913 --> 00:27:31,083 So, Shep, given the state of Austen and Craig's friendship 696 00:27:31,216 --> 00:27:34,144 at the time, it did seem a little optimistic. 697 00:27:34,311 --> 00:27:35,721 Why did you think it would be successful? 698 00:27:35,854 --> 00:27:39,650 Easy, I mean, the best times that we've had have been 699 00:27:39,783 --> 00:27:41,727 traveling together, having fun. 700 00:27:41,860 --> 00:27:43,729 - Some of our biggest fights. - So what? 701 00:27:43,862 --> 00:27:45,989 You put it perpendicular. 702 00:27:46,123 --> 00:27:48,500 Hey, you fucking cunt. 703 00:27:48,634 --> 00:27:49,968 [shouting] 704 00:27:50,102 --> 00:27:52,137 Cook your own fucking hot dog, I'm serious. 705 00:27:52,304 --> 00:27:54,998 - Oh! - Break your fucking glasses. 706 00:27:55,132 --> 00:27:56,108 Damn, Craig. 707 00:27:56,275 --> 00:27:58,210 That's true, but it's all part of it. 708 00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:59,836 Yeah, so what are you talking about? 709 00:28:00,003 --> 00:28:01,505 [chuckles] Yeah. 710 00:28:01,638 --> 00:28:03,340 Well, Austen, you and Craig seem to be having fun together at 711 00:28:03,507 --> 00:28:05,317 - the start of the Mexico trip. - Yeah, we had a good time. 712 00:28:05,484 --> 00:28:07,519 How do you go from hating each other 713 00:28:07,653 --> 00:28:10,155 as "enemies" to being buddies? 714 00:28:10,322 --> 00:28:12,658 Because I'm fucked in the head, Andy. 715 00:28:12,791 --> 00:28:15,260 - [laughter] - SALLEY: We all are. 716 00:28:15,394 --> 00:28:17,996 I just think that going on the trip, too, 717 00:28:18,130 --> 00:28:20,799 I was like, by pain of death, I am going to have fun. 718 00:28:20,933 --> 00:28:23,193 I'm going to do my thing and not worry about, 719 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:26,004 you know, anything else, and I just want to have fun. 720 00:28:26,138 --> 00:28:28,040 So you were forced to having hang out with me. 721 00:28:28,140 --> 00:28:30,809 How you see them flip-flopping, and this moment alone, 722 00:28:30,976 --> 00:28:33,011 they've gone from at each other's throats... 723 00:28:33,145 --> 00:28:35,314 - I know, it's... - ...to back on good graces. 724 00:28:35,447 --> 00:28:38,383 It's what keeps us on the edge of our seats. 725 00:28:40,035 --> 00:28:42,354 So, Venita, at the dinner, 726 00:28:42,487 --> 00:28:44,815 you brought up their relationship. 727 00:28:44,881 --> 00:28:48,894 I would like to see Austen stand up for himself... 728 00:28:50,228 --> 00:28:52,698 - in more situations than not. - Okay. 729 00:28:52,864 --> 00:28:54,316 Generally. 730 00:28:55,225 --> 00:28:56,301 - She didn't. - No? 731 00:28:56,435 --> 00:28:58,036 No, she basically just said that 732 00:28:58,170 --> 00:29:00,238 Austen needs to stand up for himself, 733 00:29:00,405 --> 00:29:03,008 and obviously Craig, you know, 734 00:29:03,141 --> 00:29:04,576 took that implication, like that. 735 00:29:04,676 --> 00:29:07,037 I'm going to stop you, I'm going to stop you, 736 00:29:07,170 --> 00:29:09,548 because I was digging. I was digging. 737 00:29:09,681 --> 00:29:11,350 She knew it. I knew what I was doing. 738 00:29:11,516 --> 00:29:13,352 - [overlapping conversation] - I knew what I was doing. 739 00:29:13,418 --> 00:29:14,686 Okay, okay, all right. 740 00:29:14,820 --> 00:29:16,588 Craig didn't spout off entirely unprovoked, 741 00:29:16,722 --> 00:29:18,849 so I looked at him and said, "We know that's about you." 742 00:29:18,915 --> 00:29:21,426 ANDY: Craig, walk us through what got you so upset. 743 00:29:21,593 --> 00:29:25,097 I was just sick of being meddled with and poked and prodded. 744 00:29:25,230 --> 00:29:29,034 Austen and I, it seemed like that meddling of being like, 745 00:29:29,167 --> 00:29:31,203 well, tell, you know, you have to stand up to Craig. 746 00:29:31,270 --> 00:29:33,972 I was just like, I'm so sick of everyone 747 00:29:34,072 --> 00:29:36,033 getting involved in my business. 748 00:29:36,099 --> 00:29:38,410 Salley, did you think Craig overreacted? 749 00:29:38,577 --> 00:29:40,412 I do, I think that there was things 750 00:29:40,545 --> 00:29:42,614 that he was making good points on, 751 00:29:42,781 --> 00:29:44,608 but he was delivering it completely wrong. 752 00:29:44,775 --> 00:29:46,885 Yeah, and the things you said were pretty hurtful. 753 00:29:47,019 --> 00:29:49,421 ANDY: Austen, do you think Craig's problem 754 00:29:49,588 --> 00:29:50,889 is only his delivery 755 00:29:51,023 --> 00:29:52,749 or also the things that he says? 756 00:29:52,883 --> 00:29:54,526 The things that he says as well. 757 00:29:54,660 --> 00:29:55,994 And, like, Craig knows, 758 00:29:56,094 --> 00:29:57,721 and Shep has bragged about this too, 759 00:29:57,788 --> 00:29:59,431 - sorry to give you a stray. - SHEP: No, it's okay. 760 00:29:59,564 --> 00:30:01,767 Sorry to give you a stray, but, like, Shep brags about 761 00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:03,735 knowing the thing that'll cut you the deepest. 762 00:30:03,869 --> 00:30:05,370 And he's like, piss me off enough 763 00:30:05,504 --> 00:30:07,272 and I'll say the shit that'll cut you the deepest. 764 00:30:07,439 --> 00:30:08,774 - Craig has that trait. - Craig knows it too. 765 00:30:08,907 --> 00:30:11,443 Well, it was, it was, and Venita, 766 00:30:11,576 --> 00:30:12,911 I really have no ill will to you. 767 00:30:13,078 --> 00:30:14,913 And I thank you for all the words you said. 768 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,216 But in the moment, what I was being told from Salley, 769 00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:19,810 like, Venita said this, 770 00:30:19,976 --> 00:30:21,186 Venita said we can't hang out. 771 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,121 The message that I was getting relayed 772 00:30:23,288 --> 00:30:26,191 was that Venita really talks about you a lot. 773 00:30:26,325 --> 00:30:29,428 And so at the dinner, after not saying anything all year, 774 00:30:29,561 --> 00:30:31,163 which you're right, I guess, not I guess, 775 00:30:31,263 --> 00:30:34,232 I could have come to you and said, why are you meddling? 776 00:30:34,366 --> 00:30:36,460 Oh, my God, is this a little accountability coming from you? 777 00:30:36,593 --> 00:30:37,969 Yeah, of course, I shouldn't have waited, 778 00:30:38,136 --> 00:30:40,163 - but I guess I avoided it. - ANDY: All right. 779 00:30:40,330 --> 00:30:44,334 Craig, I really want to talk about what happened in the van. 780 00:30:44,468 --> 00:30:45,635 Yeah, it was terrible. 781 00:30:45,769 --> 00:30:48,180 I wasn't of right mind that's why... 782 00:30:48,347 --> 00:30:50,449 But also what was going through my head was like, 783 00:30:50,582 --> 00:30:53,552 damn, like, I'm kind of seeing what people warned me 784 00:30:53,652 --> 00:30:55,320 - a little bit about in you. - Okay. 785 00:30:55,487 --> 00:30:57,322 And that, I mean, don't just say okay. 786 00:30:57,489 --> 00:30:59,057 No, I mean, it just sucks to mess up. 787 00:30:59,157 --> 00:31:01,159 You know, I hadn't done that for, like, two years prior. 788 00:31:01,326 --> 00:31:03,328 - And then, like, I should... - Okay, don't disregard me 789 00:31:03,495 --> 00:31:05,731 like that, you still need to take accountability 790 00:31:05,864 --> 00:31:07,691 for your like, anger. 791 00:31:07,958 --> 00:31:11,203 ♪♪♪ 792 00:31:15,974 --> 00:31:17,542 You still need to take accountability 793 00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:19,277 for your like, anger. 794 00:31:19,378 --> 00:31:22,297 I mean, talk about a tornado. That was a fucking tornado. 795 00:31:23,849 --> 00:31:25,884 Dude, it was psychotic break. 796 00:31:27,619 --> 00:31:29,346 What? I-- Okay. 797 00:31:30,689 --> 00:31:32,524 Austen, you were silent in the van. 798 00:31:32,657 --> 00:31:34,117 - Why? - AUSTEN: I was in the back. 799 00:31:34,284 --> 00:31:36,027 I had like a hat pulled down and I was like, 800 00:31:36,194 --> 00:31:37,429 I don't want to be a part of-- 801 00:31:37,529 --> 00:31:38,964 I don't want to fucking deal with this 802 00:31:39,097 --> 00:31:40,557 until it got to the point 803 00:31:40,724 --> 00:31:42,901 where Rod was like, "Please fucking help me, man." 804 00:31:47,472 --> 00:31:48,899 I know. I know. 805 00:31:49,065 --> 00:31:50,342 What are you guys talking about? 806 00:31:50,509 --> 00:31:52,010 She was just like, if I was there, 807 00:31:52,144 --> 00:31:53,970 - it would have never happened. - I just think that 808 00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:57,816 if I see a friend in that kind of situation 809 00:31:57,916 --> 00:31:59,918 where clearly he was out of his mind, 810 00:32:00,051 --> 00:32:01,686 I wouldn't have just sat there 811 00:32:01,853 --> 00:32:03,722 and let him to continue to do it. 812 00:32:03,889 --> 00:32:05,590 I would try to calm him down. 813 00:32:05,724 --> 00:32:07,526 Madison, you don't understand. 814 00:32:07,692 --> 00:32:09,419 - We were! - You don't understand. 815 00:32:09,586 --> 00:32:11,363 You just flat out do not get it because you were not there. 816 00:32:11,496 --> 00:32:14,157 Okay, I want to know, Shep, what's your take on this? 817 00:32:14,324 --> 00:32:16,001 You weren't in the van. You heard about it. 818 00:32:16,067 --> 00:32:20,071 I know how painful it can be knowing that not quite sure 819 00:32:20,238 --> 00:32:22,174 what happened, but you know it was bad. 820 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,176 And it's just such a helpless feeling. 821 00:32:24,276 --> 00:32:25,827 And it's such a lonely feeling. 822 00:32:25,927 --> 00:32:27,838 Yeah, I mean, that's not a fun place for anyone to get. 823 00:32:27,938 --> 00:32:29,247 No, I know that. 824 00:32:29,381 --> 00:32:30,715 And it actually scares the shit out of you. 825 00:32:30,849 --> 00:32:32,818 I know, but it's warranted. You earned it. 826 00:32:32,918 --> 00:32:36,621 But it's just this inner turmoil that you can't get rid of. 827 00:32:36,755 --> 00:32:39,282 And it takes time to get rid of. So I've been there before. 828 00:32:39,449 --> 00:32:41,393 Yeah, I haven't drank that much in fucking years. 829 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,622 I mean, I was just in a place that no one should be in. 830 00:32:45,789 --> 00:32:49,167 And I just kind of was emotionally spent 831 00:32:49,267 --> 00:32:52,103 and drank entirely way too much. 832 00:32:52,270 --> 00:32:54,906 It triggered a legit meltdown. 833 00:32:55,073 --> 00:32:57,209 Obviously, if I wouldn't have drank, 834 00:32:57,342 --> 00:32:58,743 it wouldn't have happened, and it sucks. 835 00:32:58,844 --> 00:33:00,345 And that's on me. It's very embarrassing. 836 00:33:00,512 --> 00:33:02,180 But then I'm like, yeah, but would I ever be drinking 837 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,382 for 16 hours straight without water and dinner and food? 838 00:33:04,449 --> 00:33:05,951 [chuckles] 839 00:33:06,084 --> 00:33:10,155 Make it sound like you're deprived of natural resources. 840 00:33:10,322 --> 00:33:12,257 Well, no, I mean, they have all sorts of 841 00:33:12,424 --> 00:33:14,284 footage of you eating and drinking. 842 00:33:15,393 --> 00:33:18,730 That chicken with the red salsa is the best. 843 00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:20,498 Keep your mouth closed, please. 844 00:33:20,665 --> 00:33:22,634 Yeah, all of them, all of them. 845 00:33:22,767 --> 00:33:25,720 Chicken, steak, cheese, shrimp, two, two, two, two, two. 846 00:33:25,820 --> 00:33:27,873 Oh, yeah, man, we ate a shit ton of food at the bar. 847 00:33:27,973 --> 00:33:29,241 I was full as hell. 848 00:33:29,341 --> 00:33:30,742 I don't want it to seem that you were... 849 00:33:30,809 --> 00:33:32,644 - No, no, you're right. - ...all put in a cage 850 00:33:32,744 --> 00:33:35,005 with tequila and not allowed to eat or drink. 851 00:33:35,171 --> 00:33:36,781 - I don't mean that. - That's what it sounds like. 852 00:33:36,882 --> 00:33:38,416 SALLEY: All of us were doing the same thing 853 00:33:38,483 --> 00:33:39,951 and no one had a freak out like that. 854 00:33:40,085 --> 00:33:42,579 Andy, I think it's more of an anger issue 855 00:33:42,746 --> 00:33:44,022 than an alcohol issue, I just think 856 00:33:44,189 --> 00:33:45,690 you need to better control your anger. 857 00:33:45,857 --> 00:33:47,759 SALLEY: Yeah, I mean, that was a terrible night. 858 00:33:47,893 --> 00:33:49,961 But there had been other nights leading up to that 859 00:33:50,128 --> 00:33:52,998 that you had screamed or yelled at me also. 860 00:33:53,131 --> 00:33:55,066 So I don't necessarily think 861 00:33:55,233 --> 00:33:57,202 that it's your drinking that leads to it. 862 00:33:57,369 --> 00:33:58,536 I think it's your anger. 863 00:33:58,703 --> 00:34:01,139 ANDY: So, Craig, your apology to Salley, 864 00:34:01,273 --> 00:34:04,743 was that enough to repair your friendship? 865 00:34:04,843 --> 00:34:07,045 You should've come to my door... 866 00:34:09,881 --> 00:34:12,384 [tense music playing] 867 00:34:19,891 --> 00:34:23,795 I don't know if we're completely repaired in our friendship. 868 00:34:23,929 --> 00:34:27,232 Because I feel like I kind of had to bring it on. 869 00:34:27,365 --> 00:34:28,525 I don't think that you, like, 870 00:34:28,625 --> 00:34:30,001 came out of your way to apologize. 871 00:34:30,135 --> 00:34:32,304 CHARLEY: Yeah, I thought that he would, like, 872 00:34:32,404 --> 00:34:35,307 address the group just because it was just 873 00:34:35,373 --> 00:34:37,075 kind of like the elephant in the room. 874 00:34:37,242 --> 00:34:40,078 And then I thought that, like, him and I would have 875 00:34:40,211 --> 00:34:41,446 a separate conversation about it 876 00:34:41,546 --> 00:34:43,515 because, like, I was in the van, too. 877 00:34:43,648 --> 00:34:45,684 CHARLEY: There was some extreme avoidance. 878 00:34:45,850 --> 00:34:47,811 But I think I was just, as in shock, 879 00:34:47,978 --> 00:34:49,688 I was like, "How did I let myself, 880 00:34:49,821 --> 00:34:51,640 "like, get to this point?" 881 00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:54,159 ANDY: Austen, you said apologies from Craig 882 00:34:54,225 --> 00:34:56,061 are meaningless at this point. 883 00:34:56,161 --> 00:34:57,529 What did you mean by that? 884 00:34:57,662 --> 00:34:59,631 [groans] Just, I've just fucking seen it so many times. 885 00:34:59,798 --> 00:35:02,592 And I know that Craig, man, sits here and cops to it 886 00:35:02,726 --> 00:35:04,336 and he's like, I know, I shouldn't have done that 887 00:35:04,436 --> 00:35:05,737 and I shouldn't have done that. 888 00:35:05,870 --> 00:35:07,172 But sometimes I'm just like, 889 00:35:07,238 --> 00:35:09,074 how many more times does that happen? 890 00:35:09,174 --> 00:35:11,276 Like, you know, you yelled at me at my birthday dinner, 891 00:35:11,443 --> 00:35:14,579 yelled at Venita at dinner, told them you have a meltdown 892 00:35:14,746 --> 00:35:16,614 on the thing and it's like, holy shit. 893 00:35:16,781 --> 00:35:17,816 Like, it's just a lot. 894 00:35:17,983 --> 00:35:19,484 You recognize it, sure. 895 00:35:19,584 --> 00:35:21,077 But, like, I just... 896 00:35:21,177 --> 00:35:22,687 Well, there's, like, nothing I can do 897 00:35:22,754 --> 00:35:24,456 but continue to, like, work on myself. 898 00:35:24,623 --> 00:35:26,458 WHIT: Well, the problem is that it feels a little bit more 899 00:35:26,624 --> 00:35:28,059 like lip service than actual work, though, 900 00:35:28,226 --> 00:35:29,761 because we hear you say these great apologies, but... 901 00:35:29,861 --> 00:35:31,563 Do you know how much work I've done on myself 902 00:35:31,663 --> 00:35:33,298 We don't know, we're not there in the room with you, my man. 903 00:35:33,431 --> 00:35:35,258 CRAIG: Okay, but then that's why when you say 904 00:35:35,358 --> 00:35:36,601 it feels like lip service, like... 905 00:35:36,735 --> 00:35:38,461 - It feels like. - CRAIG: It took... 906 00:35:38,628 --> 00:35:40,305 Okay, well, I'm sorry it feels that way. 907 00:35:40,472 --> 00:35:41,965 There's no way for me to prove to you. 908 00:35:42,098 --> 00:35:43,875 I think we just need to accept him for who he is 909 00:35:44,042 --> 00:35:46,111 - and either like it or not. - Accept what? 910 00:35:46,277 --> 00:35:47,812 That our friend is an asshole? 911 00:35:49,247 --> 00:35:51,549 God, this fucking show, man. 912 00:35:51,650 --> 00:35:53,685 You know, maybe this isn't right for me. 913 00:35:53,785 --> 00:35:55,979 Like, maybe I just shouldn't be here. 914 00:35:56,246 --> 00:36:00,158 ♪♪♪ 915 00:36:05,013 --> 00:36:06,823 There's, like, nothing I can do but continue to, 916 00:36:06,956 --> 00:36:08,258 like, work on myself. 917 00:36:08,425 --> 00:36:09,926 WHIT: The problem is that it feels a little bit 918 00:36:10,093 --> 00:36:11,436 more like lip service than actual work, though. 919 00:36:11,536 --> 00:36:13,171 Okay, well, I'm sorry it feels that way. 920 00:36:13,338 --> 00:36:14,831 There's no way for me to prove to you. 921 00:36:14,964 --> 00:36:16,725 I think we just need to accept him for who he is 922 00:36:16,825 --> 00:36:19,469 - and either like it or not. - Accept what? 923 00:36:19,602 --> 00:36:21,137 That our friend is an asshole? 924 00:36:22,447 --> 00:36:24,682 God, this fucking show, man. 925 00:36:24,849 --> 00:36:26,776 You know, maybe this isn't right for me. 926 00:36:26,943 --> 00:36:29,688 Like, maybe I just shouldn't be here. 927 00:36:31,423 --> 00:36:33,458 Um, I mean, look. 928 00:36:33,591 --> 00:36:35,151 I would love to figure out a way 929 00:36:35,285 --> 00:36:37,095 to be able to enjoy this again 930 00:36:37,195 --> 00:36:39,956 and not feel like I'm always... 931 00:36:40,090 --> 00:36:41,791 - Against. - CRAIG: Yeah. 932 00:36:41,925 --> 00:36:43,401 Like, even if it's in my own head. 933 00:36:43,568 --> 00:36:45,136 Like, no matter what your feelings are, 934 00:36:45,303 --> 00:36:46,996 you gotta have healthy ways to process them. 935 00:36:47,130 --> 00:36:49,808 And I didn't realize that, like, I just bottle it all up. 936 00:36:49,941 --> 00:36:53,303 And then, you know, when you get so out of control, 937 00:36:53,436 --> 00:36:55,138 there's no more bottling, and it all comes out 938 00:36:55,271 --> 00:36:57,307 - in a horrible way. - MOLLY: I used to have 939 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,602 anger management issues, absolutely. 940 00:37:00,702 --> 00:37:03,354 Anger's almost always a secondary emotion 941 00:37:03,521 --> 00:37:06,791 stemming from, you know, hurt or fear or whatever. 942 00:37:06,891 --> 00:37:08,660 And it just rules you. 943 00:37:08,793 --> 00:37:10,795 CRAIG: Well, yeah, so that night on the van, 944 00:37:10,929 --> 00:37:12,188 I was already feeling rejected. 945 00:37:12,322 --> 00:37:13,732 Like Charley said, she was... 946 00:37:13,898 --> 00:37:15,391 one foot in, one foot out, and I think 947 00:37:15,558 --> 00:37:19,404 that had already triggered a losing control response 948 00:37:19,571 --> 00:37:21,639 because I had just been very sure about something 949 00:37:21,740 --> 00:37:24,701 for three years and then it was gone. 950 00:37:24,868 --> 00:37:29,380 And I think I felt like I was losing my grasp on, 951 00:37:29,547 --> 00:37:31,516 like, Charley and was blaming, 952 00:37:31,683 --> 00:37:34,511 you know, the situation and the environment. 953 00:37:34,677 --> 00:37:36,746 I just freaked out. 954 00:37:36,846 --> 00:37:39,849 So I guess, where do you go from here with it? 955 00:37:40,016 --> 00:37:43,144 Just redirect talks with my therapist 956 00:37:43,244 --> 00:37:45,388 because I never understood 957 00:37:45,555 --> 00:37:47,257 that it could be, like, an anger issue. 958 00:37:47,357 --> 00:37:49,025 I always thought it was, like, a losing control. 959 00:37:49,192 --> 00:37:50,927 You've never talked to your therapist about any of this? 960 00:37:51,094 --> 00:37:54,230 I think I always focused on, like, if I didn't, like, drink, 961 00:37:54,364 --> 00:37:56,207 then it wouldn't be an issue. 962 00:37:56,374 --> 00:37:58,902 When in reality, it could have just been, like, 963 00:37:59,068 --> 00:38:00,678 you're suppressing other stuff. 964 00:38:00,812 --> 00:38:03,882 But again, you can't prevent stress from happening. 965 00:38:03,982 --> 00:38:06,918 You can't prevent environments from changing on you 966 00:38:07,018 --> 00:38:09,721 and I need to have the tools to deal with it. 967 00:38:09,888 --> 00:38:12,173 Also, I didn't get to apologize to everyone. 968 00:38:12,273 --> 00:38:16,294 I'm-- I'm obviously sorry. 969 00:38:16,461 --> 00:38:19,389 And I will try my hardest to make sure 970 00:38:19,522 --> 00:38:22,550 that it never happens again. 971 00:38:23,293 --> 00:38:24,894 Maybe you should watch this season. 972 00:38:25,061 --> 00:38:26,629 After I do the work on myself. 973 00:38:26,729 --> 00:38:28,373 - Yeah. - Yeah. 974 00:38:28,473 --> 00:38:30,033 Well, that's an interesting suggestion. 975 00:38:30,133 --> 00:38:33,144 - Sometimes it'll... - Uh, I think it'll be a goal. 976 00:38:33,244 --> 00:38:35,205 ...open your mind a little. 977 00:38:35,305 --> 00:38:37,882 All right, this season, we saw challenges 978 00:38:37,982 --> 00:38:40,043 to both old and new friendships 979 00:38:40,143 --> 00:38:43,788 that tested the very fabric of your relationships. 980 00:38:43,888 --> 00:38:46,482 So before we go, I want to give you 981 00:38:46,583 --> 00:38:49,953 one last opportunity to clear the air. 982 00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:51,554 Madison, you're living the dream. 983 00:38:51,654 --> 00:38:53,923 - I am. - New house, new baby. 984 00:38:54,090 --> 00:38:55,825 What's next for you? 985 00:38:55,959 --> 00:38:57,594 - Another baby. - Maybe another baby. 986 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,672 - Yes. - You did say that's possible. 987 00:39:00,772 --> 00:39:02,840 - Oh, for sure. - Hot girl summer. 988 00:39:02,941 --> 00:39:04,209 - Hot girl summer. - There you go. 989 00:39:04,309 --> 00:39:06,911 Rodrigo, I'm wondering if we'll see you 990 00:39:07,045 --> 00:39:08,805 tie the knot next season. 991 00:39:08,938 --> 00:39:11,608 I think that's definitely next and... 992 00:39:12,175 --> 00:39:13,952 Who would officiate? Be honest. 993 00:39:14,118 --> 00:39:15,453 Honestly, Madison. 994 00:39:15,620 --> 00:39:16,955 - Yay! - Yeah. 995 00:39:17,121 --> 00:39:19,691 - Madison. - I need a suit. 996 00:39:19,791 --> 00:39:21,693 Tom Ford, call me. 997 00:39:21,793 --> 00:39:23,286 - Molly could sing. - ANDY: Molly, you, uh, 998 00:39:23,419 --> 00:39:25,755 Molly, you tackled your singing stage fright. 999 00:39:25,855 --> 00:39:28,933 Any other fears you're hoping to take on in the near future? 1000 00:39:29,033 --> 00:39:32,161 Oh, my gosh. I think just more of that. 1001 00:39:32,295 --> 00:39:33,696 I'd like to get into songwriting 1002 00:39:33,830 --> 00:39:36,774 and creating my own music, which is scary for me. 1003 00:39:36,875 --> 00:39:40,011 - Watch out, Taylor Swift. - Oh, God. [chuckles] 1004 00:39:40,111 --> 00:39:45,650 Salley, given your conflict this season with Venita and Charley, 1005 00:39:45,783 --> 00:39:49,053 what have you learned about your female friendships? 1006 00:39:50,313 --> 00:39:52,824 That they're what lasts forever, 1007 00:39:52,991 --> 00:39:55,927 and that's what I'm hoping for all of us girls. 1008 00:39:56,027 --> 00:40:00,465 Charley, how will you leave things with Salley? 1009 00:40:00,632 --> 00:40:02,433 Salley and I are in a good place. 1010 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,135 Anything you want to say to Craig? 1011 00:40:04,302 --> 00:40:06,454 CHARLEY: No, I mean, at the end of the day, 1012 00:40:06,554 --> 00:40:08,331 like, I do see Craig as a friend. 1013 00:40:08,464 --> 00:40:10,642 I feel like we had a good friendship 1014 00:40:10,742 --> 00:40:12,835 before whenever we were all hanging out, 1015 00:40:13,002 --> 00:40:15,713 and, like, I just... 1016 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,248 like, I wish him the best, yeah. 1017 00:40:17,415 --> 00:40:20,243 Um, Venita, it seems like you and Craig 1018 00:40:20,343 --> 00:40:23,087 may have made some headway tonight? 1019 00:40:25,548 --> 00:40:26,824 A little, yeah. In a good way, though. 1020 00:40:26,958 --> 00:40:28,584 I mean, I'm not going to lie and be like, 1021 00:40:28,751 --> 00:40:31,129 "Yeah, we're at 100," but I'm positive for things, 1022 00:40:31,229 --> 00:40:34,190 better outcome, hopefully getting invited to the hot tub. 1023 00:40:34,324 --> 00:40:36,392 - I don't know. - I'm ready when Venita is. 1024 00:40:36,526 --> 00:40:37,694 [laughter] 1025 00:40:37,827 --> 00:40:39,604 Austen, do you think you and Craig 1026 00:40:39,771 --> 00:40:40,863 made any progress today? 1027 00:40:41,030 --> 00:40:43,733 I think that there has been some peace 1028 00:40:43,866 --> 00:40:46,944 in my life from us, you know. 1029 00:40:47,111 --> 00:40:49,038 We kind of operate like in group chats 1030 00:40:49,172 --> 00:40:51,074 and things like that, you know, this year when we have buffers. 1031 00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:53,209 It's been a bit more peaceful that way, 1032 00:40:53,343 --> 00:40:56,245 and I think that maybe it'll remain that way 1033 00:40:56,412 --> 00:40:59,223 for a little bit of time until... 1034 00:40:59,390 --> 00:41:01,250 you know, I don't know when. 1035 00:41:01,384 --> 00:41:03,052 ANDY: Craig, next steps with Austen? 1036 00:41:03,186 --> 00:41:05,163 I think just giving each other space 1037 00:41:05,296 --> 00:41:07,765 and hopefully try to relearn each other 1038 00:41:07,932 --> 00:41:10,560 or accept each other for, you know, who we are. 1039 00:41:10,693 --> 00:41:12,362 ANDY: Whitner, what do you think? 1040 00:41:12,462 --> 00:41:15,064 You know, Craig is who Craig is, 1041 00:41:15,198 --> 00:41:17,066 and like the tiger's not changing his stripes. 1042 00:41:17,233 --> 00:41:18,710 We like that the tiger is working on 1043 00:41:18,876 --> 00:41:20,745 changing those stripes, and it's just whether or not 1044 00:41:20,912 --> 00:41:22,438 those people will fit in each other's lives. 1045 00:41:22,572 --> 00:41:25,049 Shep, will you ever give up on Austen 1046 00:41:25,183 --> 00:41:26,417 and Craig's friendship? 1047 00:41:26,551 --> 00:41:28,703 No, and hopefully I can be 1048 00:41:28,803 --> 00:41:30,780 the bridge and... 1049 00:41:30,947 --> 00:41:35,626 sort of advocate for each other to the other one. 1050 00:41:35,793 --> 00:41:37,328 Shep, it's become a tradition. 1051 00:41:37,495 --> 00:41:39,430 You give the final toast of the evening. 1052 00:41:39,530 --> 00:41:41,532 This year, it's also Charley's birthday, 1053 00:41:41,632 --> 00:41:44,102 - so we have cupcakes coming in. - Yay! 1054 00:41:44,202 --> 00:41:45,595 Oh, cupcakes? 1055 00:41:45,728 --> 00:41:46,996 Okay, are y'all gonna sing? 1056 00:41:47,130 --> 00:41:48,973 Molly, sing for me. Everyone. 1057 00:41:49,073 --> 00:41:52,894 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 1058 00:41:52,994 --> 00:41:56,305 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 1059 00:41:56,472 --> 00:42:00,068 ♪ Happy birthday, dear Charley ♪ 1060 00:42:00,168 --> 00:42:03,279 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 1061 00:42:03,813 --> 00:42:07,258 - Whoo! - Okay, Sheppy, give it to us. 1062 00:42:07,392 --> 00:42:09,485 I drink to your health when I'm with you. 1063 00:42:09,652 --> 00:42:11,921 I drink to your health when you're gone. 1064 00:42:12,021 --> 00:42:13,581 I drink to your health so often, 1065 00:42:13,681 --> 00:42:16,000 I'm damn near endangering my own. 1066 00:42:16,167 --> 00:42:17,769 I feel like there was a rhyme there. 1067 00:42:17,869 --> 00:42:19,904 [overlapping chatter] 1068 00:42:20,071 --> 00:42:21,464 Okay, cheers. 1069 00:42:21,597 --> 00:42:23,299 - Cheers. - Okay, cheers. 1070 00:42:23,433 --> 00:42:26,469 I want to thank the gang from "Southern Charm" 1071 00:42:26,602 --> 00:42:28,980 for continuing to share their lives with us. 1072 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,808 I'm Andy Cohen. Thanks, and good night. 1073 00:42:31,941 --> 00:42:33,217 Cheers. 1074 00:42:34,177 --> 00:42:35,787 Andy, you have a little cupcake. 1075 00:42:35,953 --> 00:42:38,139 - Let's go crazy. - [Venita laughs]