1 00:00:16,860 --> 00:00:18,862 (sizzling) 2 00:00:21,865 --> 00:00:23,534 (knob twisting) 3 00:00:23,634 --> 00:00:25,369 (clicking) 4 00:00:27,204 --> 00:00:28,739 LINDA: No, rotate. 5 00:00:29,873 --> 00:00:31,808 (sizzling) 6 00:00:34,378 --> 00:00:36,046 You have to rotate it. 7 00:00:40,417 --> 00:00:42,486 Jesus Christ. May I? 8 00:00:47,658 --> 00:00:49,660 (clicking accelerates) 9 00:00:56,167 --> 00:00:58,269 (whispering indistinctly) 10 00:00:58,402 --> 00:01:00,171 (timer dings) 11 00:01:03,607 --> 00:01:06,009 Oh, thank you. 12 00:01:16,187 --> 00:01:17,854 (sizzling) 13 00:01:17,921 --> 00:01:19,590 That's Linda Tripp. 14 00:01:19,723 --> 00:01:20,957 (whispering indistinctly) 15 00:01:36,973 --> 00:01:38,975 -(lid creaks) - Morning, Ron. 16 00:01:43,314 --> 00:01:45,382 (whirring) 17 00:01:47,318 --> 00:01:49,986 Hello, Ken, it's Linda Tripp. 18 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,123 Again. It was alarming enough to be asked to write a how-to 19 00:01:53,257 --> 00:01:55,726 manual for my own job, but it has now been nearly 20 00:01:55,826 --> 00:01:58,329 one month since I requested the materials I need to even 21 00:01:58,462 --> 00:01:59,830 attempt to start on this, 22 00:01:59,963 --> 00:02:01,465 and-and still I've received nothing. 23 00:02:01,598 --> 00:02:04,801 (rattling, clunking) 24 00:02:04,968 --> 00:02:06,303 (sizzling) 25 00:02:06,437 --> 00:02:09,406 (quiet chatter, laughter) 26 00:02:09,473 --> 00:02:11,242 (speaking quietly) 27 00:02:12,343 --> 00:02:13,310 At a minimum, 28 00:02:13,477 --> 00:02:15,246 I will need my correspondence books 29 00:02:15,312 --> 00:02:19,983 and all volumes of the archival histories of JCOC 59 and 60. 30 00:02:23,587 --> 00:02:26,657 If anyone cast the slightest glance at my cubicle, 31 00:02:26,823 --> 00:02:29,493 they would easily find all of these on my desk there. 32 00:02:33,597 --> 00:02:36,099 BOB GOODMAN: Lucianne, have you had any occasion to 33 00:02:36,166 --> 00:02:37,668 talk to Linda recently? 34 00:02:37,801 --> 00:02:40,837 I haven't talked to Linda since, uh, uh, the day 35 00:02:40,937 --> 00:02:43,006 she wore the wire to the Ritz-Carlton Hotel. 36 00:02:43,139 --> 00:02:45,108 Judge Starr asked her not to be in touch. 37 00:02:45,175 --> 00:02:47,678 -With anyone? - Right, with anyone. 38 00:02:47,778 --> 00:02:49,012 GOODMAN: Are you surprised that only one 39 00:02:49,179 --> 00:02:51,615 out of ten Americans view her favorably? 40 00:02:51,682 --> 00:02:53,684 No, not with how the White Houe 41 00:02:53,784 --> 00:02:56,019 and sundry sympathetic people have 42 00:02:56,119 --> 00:02:58,789 framed the discussion of Linda in such a negative wa. 43 00:02:58,855 --> 00:03:01,292 GOODMAN: Do you think it also might be that people don't 44 00:03:01,358 --> 00:03:03,026 like people who tape their friends? 45 00:03:05,128 --> 00:03:07,531 (whirring) 46 00:03:07,698 --> 00:03:09,966 ♪ 47 00:03:10,701 --> 00:03:12,703 (sizzling) 48 00:03:17,541 --> 00:03:18,875 Rotate. 49 00:03:29,986 --> 00:03:32,823 (knocking on door) 50 00:03:33,824 --> 00:03:35,158 - Hello. - Hi. 51 00:03:35,258 --> 00:03:37,728 This is all that there was. Nothing from your office... 52 00:03:37,861 --> 00:03:39,496 Ugh. 53 00:03:44,501 --> 00:03:46,837 Oh, and I, uh... I checked the machine. 54 00:03:46,937 --> 00:03:48,572 This lady named Jane from The New Yorker, 55 00:03:48,705 --> 00:03:50,674 she left, like, four messages. 56 00:03:50,774 --> 00:03:52,343 - She's writing an article about... - Fabulous. 57 00:03:52,443 --> 00:03:54,911 There's absolutely nothing I can do about that. 58 00:03:55,011 --> 00:03:57,781 Well, you could at least call her back and talk to her. 59 00:03:57,914 --> 00:04:00,951 Allison, my attorney made it very plain. It would be unwise. 60 00:04:01,084 --> 00:04:02,285 I would lose my immunity. 61 00:04:02,419 --> 00:04:04,355 Meanwhile, the Clintons get to turn me 62 00:04:04,455 --> 00:04:07,190 into Joseph Goebbels. 63 00:04:07,257 --> 00:04:09,360 And the whole world believes them. 64 00:04:12,028 --> 00:04:13,697 Mom, just come home already. 65 00:04:16,867 --> 00:04:19,269 - I'm sick of staying with Dad. -(chuckles) 66 00:04:20,303 --> 00:04:21,805 Can't blame you on that. 67 00:04:23,039 --> 00:04:24,975 -(chuckles) - Look, the reporters are gone 68 00:04:25,108 --> 00:04:26,777 from our street and I go by every day. 69 00:04:26,877 --> 00:04:28,479 Well, you shouldn't. 70 00:04:28,612 --> 00:04:29,946 It's not safe. 71 00:04:30,046 --> 00:04:31,982 But there's no one there anymore. 72 00:04:32,115 --> 00:04:34,150 -(scoffs) - I mean, come on. Mom? 73 00:04:34,284 --> 00:04:36,553 This? This is not healthy. 74 00:04:36,653 --> 00:04:38,722 You have your grand jury thing, you are under 75 00:04:38,822 --> 00:04:40,957 so much stress and you are just sitting here alone 76 00:04:41,091 --> 00:04:42,993 all day, reading articles about yourself. 77 00:04:45,328 --> 00:04:47,464 It's not just my testimony. 78 00:04:49,165 --> 00:04:51,067 I'm going to make a statement. 79 00:04:51,134 --> 00:04:52,636 What do you mean? 80 00:04:52,769 --> 00:04:56,306 I've decided, once I have my freedom back, 81 00:04:56,473 --> 00:05:00,477 I'm going to give a speech. I'm going to address the nation. 82 00:05:00,611 --> 00:05:02,646 What are you going to say? 83 00:05:03,980 --> 00:05:06,483 I'm simply going to tell my story. 84 00:05:06,650 --> 00:05:08,652 ♪ 85 00:05:16,693 --> 00:05:19,329 (TV newsman speaking quietly) 86 00:05:25,335 --> 00:05:27,438 It's not fair. 87 00:05:27,504 --> 00:05:31,374 He didn't get paraded down to the courthouse. 88 00:05:31,508 --> 00:05:33,376 He got to testify at home. 89 00:05:33,510 --> 00:05:34,945 I'm not the president. 90 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,015 Okay, no, really-- how do I look? 91 00:05:39,115 --> 00:05:40,884 I'm going for "not a deranged whore." 92 00:05:42,118 --> 00:05:44,187 Okay, what do you want me to say? 93 00:05:44,354 --> 00:05:48,024 I'm about to be questioned by 23 strangers, 94 00:05:48,124 --> 00:05:49,359 and whoever they are, 95 00:05:49,526 --> 00:05:51,294 I'm sure they already hate me. 96 00:05:51,361 --> 00:05:53,296 PLATO (calls): Are you ready? 97 00:05:57,468 --> 00:06:00,704 BILL (on TV): We committed ourselves to a comprehensive strategy 98 00:06:00,871 --> 00:06:06,209 to lower the crime rate and mae America a safer place to live. 99 00:06:06,309 --> 00:06:09,079 - I gave him that tie. - What? 100 00:06:09,212 --> 00:06:10,881 ...has shown remarkable result. 101 00:06:10,981 --> 00:06:12,148 It's Zegna. 102 00:06:12,215 --> 00:06:13,984 I bought it at the Neiman's in Mazza Gallerie. 103 00:06:14,050 --> 00:06:16,386 Does he know that she is testifying today? 104 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:17,588 I'm sure. 105 00:06:17,721 --> 00:06:19,389 Do you think he's trying to send her a message? 106 00:06:19,523 --> 00:06:20,757 I mean, is that even legal? 107 00:06:20,891 --> 00:06:22,225 - Should I tell someone about that? - Mom. 108 00:06:22,325 --> 00:06:23,594 BILL: We should resolve to do better. 109 00:06:23,727 --> 00:06:27,230 It's fine. I'm not going to let it mess me up. 110 00:06:36,907 --> 00:06:41,745 REPORTER: She's here, she's here! She's in that car! 111 00:06:41,878 --> 00:06:43,246 - WOMAN: Monica! - MAN: Hey, Monica! 112 00:06:43,346 --> 00:06:47,684 (crowd clamoring) 113 00:06:47,784 --> 00:06:49,753 I can save you, Monica! 114 00:06:49,853 --> 00:06:51,588 (clamoring continues) 115 00:06:51,722 --> 00:06:53,356 You are going to hell! 116 00:06:53,456 --> 00:06:55,526 Monica, how are you feeling? 117 00:06:55,592 --> 00:06:57,127 (clamoring continues) 118 00:06:57,260 --> 00:06:59,029 Monica, are you in love with the president? 119 00:07:00,463 --> 00:07:02,098 Feel ready? 120 00:07:02,232 --> 00:07:04,467 I'm just excited to see the inside of a courtroom. 121 00:07:04,601 --> 00:07:06,803 You know, this is the first time Starr's given me anything 122 00:07:06,937 --> 00:07:08,605 to do beyond secretarial work. 123 00:07:08,739 --> 00:07:11,274 He is old-fashioned. 124 00:07:11,407 --> 00:07:13,476 And look, Monica and I are familiar, 125 00:07:13,610 --> 00:07:16,146 but Starr does have a point. 126 00:07:16,279 --> 00:07:18,782 It's better that a woman asks some of these questions. 127 00:07:19,783 --> 00:07:21,785 - She's here. - Okay. 128 00:07:21,918 --> 00:07:23,620 You can bring in the jury. 129 00:07:32,395 --> 00:07:36,667 - Are they already in there? - Yes, they've just been seated. 130 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,069 We'll be right out here, anytime you need. 131 00:07:54,317 --> 00:07:55,986 EMMICK: Good morning. 132 00:07:56,119 --> 00:07:58,154 You can have a seat right there. 133 00:08:10,701 --> 00:08:11,935 Can you raise your right hand? 134 00:08:12,002 --> 00:08:13,536 Oh, sure, yes. 135 00:08:15,171 --> 00:08:18,675 Do you, Monica S. Lewinsky, swear to tell the truth, 136 00:08:18,809 --> 00:08:21,344 the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 137 00:08:21,444 --> 00:08:23,113 I do. 138 00:08:26,349 --> 00:08:27,851 (clears throat) 139 00:08:28,018 --> 00:08:30,954 Now, uh, Ms. Lewinsky, what we're going to do 140 00:08:31,021 --> 00:08:32,555 is we're going to start off 141 00:08:32,689 --> 00:08:34,725 talking about your relationship with the president. 142 00:08:36,860 --> 00:08:39,195 Do I not get to learn people's names? 143 00:08:40,363 --> 00:08:44,467 (smacks lips) Uh, the answer to that is no. 144 00:08:44,534 --> 00:08:46,536 Um, I know it seems kind of... 145 00:08:46,703 --> 00:08:48,038 Kind of awkward. 146 00:08:48,138 --> 00:08:52,575 It's important that the record have no identifications. 147 00:08:52,709 --> 00:08:54,377 Oh, okay. 148 00:08:54,477 --> 00:08:57,480 Now, as we have discussed, our office feels you'll be more 149 00:08:57,547 --> 00:09:00,717 comfortable getting certain questions from Ms. Immergut, 150 00:09:00,817 --> 00:09:03,754 so I'm going to turn it over to her now. 151 00:09:03,887 --> 00:09:06,757 Ms. Lewinsky, can you tell the grand jury: 152 00:09:06,890 --> 00:09:08,391 when did you start your relationship 153 00:09:08,524 --> 00:09:11,227 with the president of the United States? 154 00:09:12,395 --> 00:09:14,665 November 15, 1995. 155 00:09:14,731 --> 00:09:17,233 Um, it was during the shutdown 156 00:09:17,333 --> 00:09:19,002 when I was assigned to the West Wing. 157 00:09:19,069 --> 00:09:20,737 Can you tell the grand jury what happened? 158 00:09:22,839 --> 00:09:25,676 Around... uh, around 8:00 in the evening 159 00:09:25,742 --> 00:09:29,012 I was headed into Mr. Stephanopoulos's office. 160 00:09:29,079 --> 00:09:32,348 The president... was in there. 161 00:09:32,448 --> 00:09:37,620 He invited me into the next room and then... 162 00:09:37,754 --> 00:09:39,022 we kissed. 163 00:09:39,089 --> 00:09:42,258 IMMERGUT: Did anything else happen between you? 164 00:09:45,428 --> 00:09:47,097 (sighs) Um... 165 00:09:48,098 --> 00:09:53,303 And we were more... physically intimate after that. 166 00:09:53,436 --> 00:09:55,438 And what do you mean by that? 167 00:10:07,951 --> 00:10:09,119 On that occasion, did you 168 00:10:09,252 --> 00:10:10,553 perform oral sex on the president? 169 00:10:10,653 --> 00:10:13,289 God, this is embarrassing. 170 00:10:13,423 --> 00:10:16,059 I assure you we won't be dwelling on this. 171 00:10:19,162 --> 00:10:20,396 Yes, I did. 172 00:10:20,496 --> 00:10:22,966 Jesus. 173 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,803 Was there any other physical intimacy performed? 174 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,176 Everything up to oral sex. 175 00:10:34,477 --> 00:10:36,980 Now, to avoid you having to go into each subsequent 176 00:10:37,147 --> 00:10:39,315 act of physical intimacy, 177 00:10:39,482 --> 00:10:44,988 we'll introduce what we have marked as Exhibit ML-7. 178 00:10:45,121 --> 00:10:47,157 ♪ 179 00:11:01,104 --> 00:11:03,039 IMMERGUT: Did you provide all the information listed 180 00:11:03,173 --> 00:11:04,507 on this chart? 181 00:11:09,445 --> 00:11:10,847 Yes, I did. 182 00:11:11,014 --> 00:11:14,184 This details each of your sexual encounters 183 00:11:14,350 --> 00:11:15,285 with President Clinton. 184 00:11:15,351 --> 00:11:17,287 To the best of your knowledge, 185 00:11:17,353 --> 00:11:18,688 is it all accurate? 186 00:11:20,223 --> 00:11:24,360 Yes. I want to hide under this table, but yes. 187 00:11:24,460 --> 00:11:28,698 Ms. Lewinsky, did your relationship with the president 188 00:11:28,865 --> 00:11:33,236 have a... non-sexual component? 189 00:11:34,237 --> 00:11:35,471 - Yes, it did. - Could you describe that 190 00:11:35,538 --> 00:11:36,873 for the grand jury? 191 00:11:36,973 --> 00:11:39,542 Sure, um... 192 00:11:41,744 --> 00:11:44,047 It was more than just... 193 00:11:45,748 --> 00:11:48,218 We enjoyed being with each other. 194 00:11:50,253 --> 00:11:52,488 He'd-- we would tell jokes, 195 00:11:52,588 --> 00:11:54,991 talk about our childhoods, current events. 196 00:11:55,058 --> 00:11:57,727 Sometimes we'd just... 197 00:11:59,662 --> 00:12:01,431 Um, we'd just be affectionate. 198 00:12:01,564 --> 00:12:05,068 He'd push my hair out of my face. 199 00:12:06,736 --> 00:12:08,905 I think back on it and... 200 00:12:09,005 --> 00:12:11,274 he always made me smile when I was with him. 201 00:12:11,407 --> 00:12:13,743 It was a lot of, uh... 202 00:12:17,180 --> 00:12:18,915 He was sunshine. 203 00:12:26,689 --> 00:12:30,526 - We okay for a break? - Uh, yeah, ten minutes? 204 00:12:31,962 --> 00:12:33,796 Ten minutes, everyone. 205 00:12:55,952 --> 00:12:59,489 EMMICK: Moving through your affidavit here, let me ask you a question. 206 00:12:59,622 --> 00:13:01,892 Paragraph eight begins, 207 00:13:01,992 --> 00:13:04,127 "I have never had a sexual relationship 208 00:13:04,260 --> 00:13:06,129 with the president." 209 00:13:06,262 --> 00:13:07,330 Is that true? 210 00:13:09,632 --> 00:13:10,967 - No. - Okay, 211 00:13:11,067 --> 00:13:13,469 so the next logical follow-up is: 212 00:13:13,603 --> 00:13:16,306 why were you willing to say something false 213 00:13:16,472 --> 00:13:18,308 under penalty of perjury? 214 00:13:20,743 --> 00:13:23,579 Uh, I did not think my... my private relationship 215 00:13:23,646 --> 00:13:25,181 was anyone's business. 216 00:13:28,184 --> 00:13:31,854 No one asked me to lie-- not the president, not anyone. 217 00:13:32,923 --> 00:13:36,492 I made that decision. By myself. 218 00:13:36,592 --> 00:13:40,330 And I wish I hadn't, to put it mildly. 219 00:13:40,496 --> 00:13:42,332 Thank you. 220 00:13:42,432 --> 00:13:45,168 Now, the grand jury has some questions for you. 221 00:13:47,037 --> 00:13:49,539 - Okay. - Did you and the president 222 00:13:49,672 --> 00:13:51,507 ever talk about denying the relationship 223 00:13:51,607 --> 00:13:53,043 if anyone asked about it? 224 00:13:53,176 --> 00:13:56,179 I offered that on-on my own. 225 00:13:56,346 --> 00:13:58,348 I always told him I would deny it. 226 00:13:58,448 --> 00:13:59,882 Why did you keep that stained black dress? 227 00:14:00,016 --> 00:14:01,517 - It's a blue dress. - Blue. - Blue. 228 00:14:01,684 --> 00:14:03,519 Answer the question, please. 229 00:14:03,686 --> 00:14:06,356 Well, I have a lot of clothes, 230 00:14:06,522 --> 00:14:09,025 and so I don't usually dry-clean things 231 00:14:09,192 --> 00:14:10,893 until I'm going to wear them again. 232 00:14:11,027 --> 00:14:12,695 Like, I don't know how you guys are, 233 00:14:12,795 --> 00:14:14,230 but you have clothes to dry-clean 234 00:14:14,364 --> 00:14:16,566 and you kind of keep them in your closet until you 235 00:14:16,699 --> 00:14:19,202 dry-clean them all together when you need them. 236 00:14:19,302 --> 00:14:21,871 And now I feel like I'm talking about 237 00:14:22,038 --> 00:14:24,874 dry-cleaning too much and the process around dry-cleaning. 238 00:14:24,975 --> 00:14:28,711 Anyway, with that dress... 239 00:14:28,811 --> 00:14:30,380 I was going to wear it again 240 00:14:30,546 --> 00:14:32,715 and when I told Linda that, 241 00:14:32,815 --> 00:14:35,051 she told me I looked heavy in it. 242 00:14:36,219 --> 00:14:38,721 Um, so I-I never ended up wearing it again. 243 00:14:38,854 --> 00:14:43,426 Ergo I never cleaned it. Does that answer your question? 244 00:14:44,494 --> 00:14:48,398 Ms. Lewinsky, did your mother ever discourage 245 00:14:48,498 --> 00:14:50,666 your relationship with the president? 246 00:14:51,834 --> 00:14:52,768 Oh, yes. 247 00:14:52,902 --> 00:14:55,671 Well, then, what kept it going? 248 00:14:57,673 --> 00:14:59,409 I fell in love. 249 00:15:00,410 --> 00:15:01,511 I have a question. 250 00:15:01,611 --> 00:15:03,613 You said you felt you were in 251 00:15:03,746 --> 00:15:05,415 a real relationship. 252 00:15:05,548 --> 00:15:06,916 A real connection. 253 00:15:07,050 --> 00:15:09,852 - Yes. - With this married man. 254 00:15:10,953 --> 00:15:12,455 - Yes. - It's been in the papers 255 00:15:12,588 --> 00:15:15,025 you had a relationship before. 256 00:15:15,125 --> 00:15:17,760 Similar to this, a married man. 257 00:15:17,860 --> 00:15:20,796 The way Kate and Andy Bleiler made it seem on TV, 258 00:15:20,930 --> 00:15:23,533 it's-it's not entirely accurate. 259 00:15:23,633 --> 00:15:25,201 I-If that's the part that you're, um... 260 00:15:25,301 --> 00:15:27,303 The only part I know is that 261 00:15:27,437 --> 00:15:29,939 he was a married man and had a family. 262 00:15:30,073 --> 00:15:31,607 Yes. 263 00:15:31,707 --> 00:15:33,976 Like I know about the president. 264 00:15:35,278 --> 00:15:38,781 We're asked to trust your version of events, 265 00:15:38,881 --> 00:15:41,317 but it seems you arrived in D.C. and sought out 266 00:15:41,451 --> 00:15:45,621 a-an affair based on deception and lies. 267 00:15:46,789 --> 00:15:49,159 Did you not believe that this was wrong? 268 00:15:53,396 --> 00:15:55,165 My intention... 269 00:15:56,666 --> 00:15:59,169 ...when I came to Washington was to start over. 270 00:16:00,803 --> 00:16:02,638 I did not want to have another affair 271 00:16:02,772 --> 00:16:04,674 with a married man because it was horrible. 272 00:16:04,807 --> 00:16:07,077 And I don't know why I did it again. 273 00:16:07,143 --> 00:16:10,146 I just know that I did it again. 274 00:16:10,313 --> 00:16:12,148 (sighs) 275 00:16:12,315 --> 00:16:14,817 And I know a lot of... a lot of people think that 276 00:16:14,950 --> 00:16:17,019 that's wrong, and so do I. 277 00:16:17,153 --> 00:16:21,991 I know there's a lot of work I need to do on myself. 278 00:16:23,993 --> 00:16:26,162 I just feel I had to ask the question because 279 00:16:26,296 --> 00:16:27,663 a lot of us are confused. 280 00:16:27,763 --> 00:16:29,499 - I'm not. - No need to be rude. 281 00:16:29,632 --> 00:16:31,334 Oh, it's okay. 282 00:16:31,434 --> 00:16:32,835 In a way, I really, I really appreciate 283 00:16:32,968 --> 00:16:34,337 you asking me where I'm coming from, 284 00:16:34,470 --> 00:16:37,173 'cause most people just assume when it comes to me, so... 285 00:16:37,273 --> 00:16:40,676 Um, I really respect your question 286 00:16:40,810 --> 00:16:42,678 and I-I appreciate what you're saying. 287 00:16:43,679 --> 00:16:44,847 Whatever your name is. 288 00:16:45,014 --> 00:16:46,616 Oh, Ms. Lewinsky... 289 00:16:46,682 --> 00:16:49,352 Can you, can you guys call me Monica? 290 00:16:49,452 --> 00:16:51,053 Are-are they allowed to call me Monica? 291 00:16:51,187 --> 00:16:52,522 If you say so. 292 00:16:54,890 --> 00:16:56,192 Sure. 293 00:16:56,292 --> 00:16:59,195 I'm just 25. Please. (chuckles) 294 00:16:59,295 --> 00:17:03,466 But you'll be Ms. Lewinsky whether you're 25 or 28 or... 295 00:17:03,533 --> 00:17:06,536 - Not when I get married. -(laughter) 296 00:17:06,636 --> 00:17:10,706 Monica, do you still love the president? 297 00:17:16,579 --> 00:17:19,715 The day they held me at the Ritz, 298 00:17:19,815 --> 00:17:23,419 they wanted me to turn on him. 299 00:17:23,553 --> 00:17:25,555 I said no. 300 00:17:25,655 --> 00:17:28,558 I-I did not want to do anything to let him get hurt. 301 00:17:28,691 --> 00:17:30,560 And then when this all came out, 302 00:17:30,693 --> 00:17:32,728 the-the people that worked for him, 303 00:17:32,862 --> 00:17:34,664 they trashed me. 304 00:17:34,764 --> 00:17:36,266 They claim that they haven't, 305 00:17:36,399 --> 00:17:39,402 but they call me a stalker. They called me a liar. 306 00:17:39,535 --> 00:17:43,506 They say I'm inappropriate. I mean, you all know. (sighs) 307 00:17:44,940 --> 00:17:47,243 And then he makes this speech. 308 00:17:48,511 --> 00:17:50,746 And he says... 309 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,082 He makes it seem like... 310 00:17:53,183 --> 00:17:55,285 all that he cares about is how unfair all of this 311 00:17:55,418 --> 00:17:57,453 - has been to him. - Mm. 312 00:17:59,088 --> 00:18:02,358 So to-- sorry-- to answer your question, um... 313 00:18:05,295 --> 00:18:07,263 ...it turns out he's not who I thought he was. 314 00:18:07,397 --> 00:18:09,799 Monica, about that day you just mentioned 315 00:18:09,932 --> 00:18:11,767 when you were approached by Mr. Emmick 316 00:18:11,901 --> 00:18:14,704 and the OIC, can you tell us a little bit about that? 317 00:18:14,804 --> 00:18:16,272 Oh, um... 318 00:18:16,406 --> 00:18:19,209 If I could ask, uh, what areas are you 319 00:18:19,309 --> 00:18:20,710 wanting to get into? 320 00:18:20,810 --> 00:18:23,946 Because we're already tight for time and, uh, 321 00:18:24,079 --> 00:18:25,448 well, you know, there were... 322 00:18:25,581 --> 00:18:27,483 many hours of activity. 323 00:18:27,617 --> 00:18:29,452 Just want to know about that day. 324 00:18:30,653 --> 00:18:33,489 Okay, well, how about we table that for now... 325 00:18:33,623 --> 00:18:36,792 - No, I want to hear about that. - We should be able to hear about that day. 326 00:18:36,892 --> 00:18:38,160 MALE JUROR: Let her talk. Why not? 327 00:18:38,294 --> 00:18:40,630 OTHERS: Let her talk. 328 00:18:40,763 --> 00:18:43,132 All right, go ahead. 329 00:18:44,467 --> 00:18:46,336 So, you were approached in the food court 330 00:18:46,469 --> 00:18:48,638 at Pentagon City by two FBI agents. 331 00:18:48,804 --> 00:18:50,973 Linda Tripp had lied to get you there. Is that right? 332 00:18:51,073 --> 00:18:52,475 Uh, yes. 333 00:18:52,642 --> 00:18:55,345 And then they proceeded to take you up to a hotel room. 334 00:18:55,478 --> 00:18:57,313 Why didn't you ask for your lawyer? 335 00:18:58,648 --> 00:19:00,015 I did. 336 00:19:01,651 --> 00:19:04,153 But they told me I was in trouble and that 337 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,989 I wouldn't be able to help myself with my attorney present, 338 00:19:07,089 --> 00:19:08,991 so I just did what they said. 339 00:19:09,158 --> 00:19:12,161 It was the FBI and I was really scared. 340 00:19:12,262 --> 00:19:14,096 What happened when you got up there? 341 00:19:21,170 --> 00:19:24,440 (sighs) S-Sorry. 342 00:19:25,508 --> 00:19:28,678 Would it be okay-- uh, can you step out? 343 00:19:31,213 --> 00:19:34,183 Karin can take over from here, right? 344 00:19:34,284 --> 00:19:36,386 Karin can take over. 345 00:19:36,519 --> 00:19:37,853 Karin can stay. 346 00:19:42,024 --> 00:19:43,859 (sighs) 347 00:19:47,062 --> 00:19:49,031 (whispers indistinctly) 348 00:19:51,033 --> 00:19:53,869 -(clears throat) -(door opens) 349 00:19:53,969 --> 00:19:55,705 EMMICK: Thank you. 350 00:20:04,046 --> 00:20:07,483 They said if I called my lawyer, I wouldn't be offered immunity. 351 00:20:07,550 --> 00:20:09,885 Did you feel threatened by that? 352 00:20:10,820 --> 00:20:13,222 Did they offer you a chance to call another attorney? 353 00:20:13,323 --> 00:20:14,924 They suggested one. 354 00:20:15,057 --> 00:20:16,892 FEMALE JUROR: Did you take them up on that? 355 00:20:17,026 --> 00:20:19,061 - No. - Why not? 356 00:20:19,161 --> 00:20:21,931 - Because I didn't trust them. - Hmm. 357 00:20:22,064 --> 00:20:24,500 It sounds as though they were actively discouraging you 358 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,436 from talking to an attorney. 359 00:20:26,569 --> 00:20:28,404 Well, from talking to Frank Carter. 360 00:20:28,504 --> 00:20:31,341 Yes, Frank Carter, my only attorney. 361 00:20:33,008 --> 00:20:34,744 Are we due for a ten-minute break? 362 00:20:35,745 --> 00:20:37,012 No, ma'am. 363 00:20:37,112 --> 00:20:39,181 (footsteps approaching) 364 00:20:49,124 --> 00:20:52,027 It lasted about 12 hours in total. 365 00:20:52,094 --> 00:20:54,864 FEMALE JUROR (softly): My God. Wow. 366 00:20:54,964 --> 00:20:57,867 And they told me over and over that I was free 367 00:20:57,967 --> 00:20:59,635 to leave, but I didn't. 368 00:21:02,438 --> 00:21:04,474 I didn't understand because they also said 369 00:21:04,607 --> 00:21:07,109 they were prepared to indict me and I could 370 00:21:07,209 --> 00:21:10,145 spend up to 28 years in prison and that they would 371 00:21:10,279 --> 00:21:14,283 prosecute my mother if I didn't help them, you know? So... 372 00:21:14,384 --> 00:21:17,487 I was, uh, confused and, uh... 373 00:21:17,620 --> 00:21:19,121 FEMALE JUROR: Were you angry? 374 00:21:22,291 --> 00:21:25,127 (sniffles) Yes, mostly at myself. 375 00:21:25,227 --> 00:21:27,296 For ending up in this situation. 376 00:21:29,999 --> 00:21:32,835 And for putting the president at risk. 377 00:21:32,968 --> 00:21:34,236 And... 378 00:21:36,406 --> 00:21:40,309 And-and for, uh, doing this to my family. 379 00:21:40,443 --> 00:21:43,913 Monica, they set you in a trap. 380 00:21:43,979 --> 00:21:45,915 - Mm-hmm. - It's what they do. 381 00:21:45,981 --> 00:21:47,983 Monica, is there anything else you'd like to add 382 00:21:48,083 --> 00:21:49,318 to your testimony? 383 00:21:49,419 --> 00:21:51,521 We want to give you the fullest opportunity. 384 00:21:52,522 --> 00:21:54,590 Um... 385 00:21:54,657 --> 00:21:57,092 Uh... 386 00:21:57,159 --> 00:21:58,928 (sighs) 387 00:21:58,994 --> 00:22:03,666 I guess I want to say that no one asked me to lie. 388 00:22:03,833 --> 00:22:06,536 And I was never promised a job for my silence. 389 00:22:08,003 --> 00:22:09,505 Mostly I'm sorry. 390 00:22:11,006 --> 00:22:13,342 I'm really sorry for everything that happened. 391 00:22:17,847 --> 00:22:20,349 - And I hate Linda Tripp. -(laughter) 392 00:22:20,450 --> 00:22:22,051 FEMALE JUROR: I know that's right. 393 00:22:22,184 --> 00:22:24,353 - FEMALE JUROR 2: Forget her. -(others assenting) 394 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,190 - What goes around comes around. - FEMALE JUROR 3: It does. 395 00:22:37,900 --> 00:22:39,535 I am going to go in and remove some 396 00:22:39,635 --> 00:22:42,204 extra cartilage and bone right here. 397 00:22:42,304 --> 00:22:44,373 Then I'm going to go ahead and pull the skin 398 00:22:44,474 --> 00:22:46,709 off of the issue so I can chisel that bump down. 399 00:22:46,876 --> 00:22:50,045 Then we fracture it so that we can close the roof, 400 00:22:50,145 --> 00:22:52,047 much the same way you would on a house. 401 00:22:52,214 --> 00:22:53,215 Does that make sense? 402 00:22:53,382 --> 00:22:55,050 Um... 403 00:22:55,150 --> 00:22:56,486 Yeah. 404 00:22:56,552 --> 00:22:59,221 Dr. Loeb does wonderful work. 405 00:22:59,388 --> 00:23:01,056 Oh, thanks. Okay, I'm going to go ahead 406 00:23:01,190 --> 00:23:03,392 and step out and do my final prep. 407 00:23:03,526 --> 00:23:05,327 I'll see you in there. 408 00:23:05,394 --> 00:23:07,162 Okay. 409 00:23:08,564 --> 00:23:10,733 (exhales) 410 00:23:10,833 --> 00:23:13,936 - Where's Steve? - Oh, he didn't want to come. 411 00:23:14,069 --> 00:23:18,007 Is he still in a funk about losing his job? 412 00:23:18,073 --> 00:23:19,909 Gosh, yes, he's... 413 00:23:20,042 --> 00:23:23,913 blaming my case and says the airline fired him because of 414 00:23:24,013 --> 00:23:26,081 pressure from Clinton, but, Susie, 415 00:23:26,215 --> 00:23:29,184 he wouldn't work the hours that they wanted him to. 416 00:23:29,251 --> 00:23:30,953 I think that's all that it is. 417 00:23:31,086 --> 00:23:32,522 Well, did you tell him that? 418 00:23:34,023 --> 00:23:36,091 He won't listen to me. (scoffs) 419 00:23:36,191 --> 00:23:38,761 (takes deep breath) 420 00:23:38,861 --> 00:23:41,130 Hey. You nervous? 421 00:23:41,263 --> 00:23:44,133 I'm just glad that people'll stop making fun 422 00:23:44,266 --> 00:23:45,968 of my big ol' awful nose. 423 00:23:54,810 --> 00:23:56,445 (engine turns off) 424 00:23:56,546 --> 00:23:57,713 (gate creaks) 425 00:24:35,818 --> 00:24:37,820 ♪ 426 00:24:58,708 --> 00:25:01,343 ♪ 427 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,522 -(playing lively tune) -(rhythmic clapping) 428 00:25:26,201 --> 00:25:28,871 (cheering) 429 00:25:31,807 --> 00:25:35,978 HILLARY: I'm told there is a Russian children's verse that says, 430 00:25:36,045 --> 00:25:39,548 "What do we plant when we plant a new wood? 431 00:25:39,649 --> 00:25:43,552 Boats in which waves can safely be withstood." 432 00:25:43,653 --> 00:25:47,056 In both our nations, music education is that 433 00:25:47,156 --> 00:25:49,391 sturdy boat that lifts us up, 434 00:25:49,524 --> 00:25:53,228 that carries our unique cultural treasures into the future. 435 00:25:53,362 --> 00:25:56,832 And now, it is my honor to introduce to you Bill Clinton, 436 00:25:56,932 --> 00:26:00,269 - president of the United States. -(applause) 437 00:26:13,115 --> 00:26:15,785 Mr. President, Mr. Bowles said you wanted this list... 438 00:26:15,918 --> 00:26:18,120 I know what it is. Thanks. 439 00:26:26,261 --> 00:26:28,597 Betty, would you ask the first lady to come see me? 440 00:26:28,698 --> 00:26:30,265 BETTY: Right away, sir. 441 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,620 (knocking on door) 442 00:26:54,156 --> 00:26:55,557 You wanted to see me? 443 00:26:55,657 --> 00:26:58,060 I wanted to say something. 444 00:27:02,798 --> 00:27:03,999 (door closes) 445 00:27:08,838 --> 00:27:12,141 25 years, you're the one opinion I give a shit about. 446 00:27:13,575 --> 00:27:17,312 Most men of our age, they... they find their wives so dull 447 00:27:17,479 --> 00:27:20,415 they cringe when she talks at dinner. 448 00:27:20,482 --> 00:27:22,752 I pity those men. 449 00:27:22,818 --> 00:27:25,154 They don't have what I do. 450 00:27:29,658 --> 00:27:33,162 I gave in to a disgusting impulse. 451 00:27:33,295 --> 00:27:35,931 Because I didn't know how to walk down the hall 452 00:27:35,998 --> 00:27:38,433 and say to my best friend 453 00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:40,770 that this job is lonely 454 00:27:40,836 --> 00:27:43,005 and I'm worn to the bone... 455 00:27:44,206 --> 00:27:46,608 ...and I'm dead inside half the time. 456 00:27:48,510 --> 00:27:50,179 There's been hell raining down on us 457 00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:52,681 from the day we walked into this place. 458 00:27:52,782 --> 00:27:55,017 You know, every move we make-- the right, 459 00:27:55,117 --> 00:27:57,352 the press, they seize, attack and drag us 460 00:27:57,452 --> 00:28:00,022 through the streets over nothing. 461 00:28:00,122 --> 00:28:03,692 And I know it's stupid, but when Newt shuts down the government, 462 00:28:03,793 --> 00:28:06,195 and Starr has slithered into our lives 463 00:28:06,295 --> 00:28:09,031 to look for malfeasance in every line of every receipt 464 00:28:09,198 --> 00:28:11,200 of every piddly thing we've ever bought, 465 00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:13,869 I thought I had to be strong for us. 466 00:28:14,036 --> 00:28:16,371 And instead, I fucked it all up. 467 00:28:18,874 --> 00:28:20,876 ♪ 468 00:28:25,881 --> 00:28:28,217 When it first came out, I was so ashamed I wanted to 469 00:28:28,383 --> 00:28:30,319 crawl in a hole and disappear. 470 00:28:33,222 --> 00:28:35,891 I couldn't bear what I'd done to you and Chelsea. 471 00:28:37,659 --> 00:28:40,729 I couldn't face telling you, I just couldn't. 472 00:28:42,898 --> 00:28:45,500 So I made it worse and I lied. 473 00:28:54,176 --> 00:28:58,347 Everything good in my life comes out of us together. 474 00:29:02,284 --> 00:29:04,854 I don't know who I am without you. 475 00:29:06,121 --> 00:29:09,091 I know you said you didn't care why it happened. 476 00:29:09,224 --> 00:29:11,426 But I wanted you to know. 477 00:29:17,366 --> 00:29:18,633 Is that all? 478 00:29:18,767 --> 00:29:20,302 No. 479 00:29:20,435 --> 00:29:21,937 I love you. 480 00:29:22,972 --> 00:29:24,639 That's all. 481 00:29:34,149 --> 00:29:35,484 (door closes) 482 00:29:42,324 --> 00:29:44,493 - Mom? - Busy. 483 00:29:44,626 --> 00:29:45,895 There's all this stuff in here. 484 00:29:45,995 --> 00:29:47,162 I didn't know that you were arrested. 485 00:29:47,296 --> 00:29:48,797 It was a teen prank. 486 00:29:48,931 --> 00:29:50,966 Some boys put things in my purse as a joke. 487 00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:52,667 Okay, but this part about your dad-- 488 00:29:52,801 --> 00:29:54,669 I mean, you don't talk about him my entire life and I have 489 00:29:54,803 --> 00:29:57,472 no idea why until someone writes an article about it. 490 00:30:09,818 --> 00:30:11,653 Oh, my God. 491 00:30:17,526 --> 00:30:19,494 Jesus Christ. 492 00:30:22,497 --> 00:30:24,666 - Unbelievable. - What? 493 00:30:24,833 --> 00:30:26,501 None of this is what I asked for. 494 00:30:26,601 --> 00:30:29,338 They know what I need to do my job and they... 495 00:30:29,471 --> 00:30:32,507 they send me a completely useless pile of paper. 496 00:30:33,842 --> 00:30:35,777 And look at the shape it's in. 497 00:30:39,048 --> 00:30:40,849 (scoffs softly) 498 00:30:43,052 --> 00:30:44,186 This is a message. 499 00:30:44,353 --> 00:30:47,356 Could just be one of the lazier secretaries. 500 00:30:49,691 --> 00:30:51,026 Bring my purse. 501 00:30:56,365 --> 00:30:58,567 (quiet chatter) 502 00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:01,536 - Oh, my God. - Linda, 503 00:31:01,636 --> 00:31:03,238 I didn't know you were coming in. 504 00:31:03,372 --> 00:31:05,140 I need to see Ken. 505 00:31:13,715 --> 00:31:16,218 - Excuse me. - I work here. 506 00:31:16,318 --> 00:31:17,552 Uh... 507 00:31:19,654 --> 00:31:22,557 No, I have to go. Okay, it's just-- Leave us. 508 00:31:22,691 --> 00:31:25,227 Linda, you know you cannot just... 509 00:31:25,327 --> 00:31:26,895 Did you oversee and approve this shipment? 510 00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:28,430 - What? - It's a simple question. 511 00:31:28,563 --> 00:31:31,833 Did you oversee and approve this shipment? 512 00:31:31,933 --> 00:31:34,336 - I can't say that I have any... - Because I asked for the basic materials 513 00:31:34,436 --> 00:31:36,938 I need to do my job and what I got 514 00:31:37,072 --> 00:31:39,674 was random printed email traffic. 515 00:31:39,774 --> 00:31:43,678 Some JCOC participant list thrown violently into a box. 516 00:31:43,778 --> 00:31:46,415 - Linda. - This is chilling. 517 00:31:46,548 --> 00:31:50,119 This is veiled hostility from my colleagues, 518 00:31:50,252 --> 00:31:51,453 simply because I'm a cooperating witness 519 00:31:51,586 --> 00:31:53,022 in a federal investigation. 520 00:31:53,122 --> 00:31:54,856 I'm sure it was just an honest mistake. 521 00:31:54,956 --> 00:31:57,526 - We are past that, Ken. - Listen. 522 00:31:57,592 --> 00:31:59,594 Just write down exactly what you need 523 00:31:59,694 --> 00:32:01,963 - and then we... - What I need 524 00:32:02,097 --> 00:32:05,300 is to come here like normal and do my work. 525 00:32:05,434 --> 00:32:07,636 And I do not doubt that you'll be able to do that soon, 526 00:32:07,769 --> 00:32:08,703 and that things will settle down, 527 00:32:08,803 --> 00:32:10,939 but DOD just opened this investigation 528 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,274 - and until we... - What? 529 00:32:13,475 --> 00:32:14,643 What investigation? 530 00:32:16,145 --> 00:32:17,379 (clears throat softly) 531 00:32:18,647 --> 00:32:20,282 They'll be contacting you. 532 00:32:20,415 --> 00:32:21,783 When you were hired, 533 00:32:21,916 --> 00:32:26,121 you affirmed on your DD 398 that you had never been arrested. 534 00:32:26,255 --> 00:32:27,622 Now, The New Yorker has come out... 535 00:32:27,756 --> 00:32:29,124 It was a teen prank! 536 00:32:29,258 --> 00:32:31,326 - Linda... - On me! 537 00:32:33,328 --> 00:32:34,796 The charges were dropped. 538 00:32:34,929 --> 00:32:38,333 Linda, you cannot lie to the Department of Defense 539 00:32:38,467 --> 00:32:40,169 on a security clearance form. 540 00:32:40,302 --> 00:32:42,571 That is a serious crime. 541 00:32:43,638 --> 00:32:45,140 I see. 542 00:32:47,176 --> 00:32:48,477 I see now. 543 00:32:49,478 --> 00:32:50,645 You see what? 544 00:32:50,779 --> 00:32:53,482 They're really coming after me. 545 00:32:53,582 --> 00:32:55,650 Okay, well... 546 00:33:01,523 --> 00:33:03,758 (knocking on door) 547 00:33:11,032 --> 00:33:13,335 Good afternoon, ma'am. I'm Special Agent Irons 548 00:33:13,468 --> 00:33:15,170 with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. 549 00:33:15,337 --> 00:33:17,005 This is Special Agent Fallon. 550 00:33:17,106 --> 00:33:19,341 FALLON: Do you have a moment to speak with us? 551 00:33:24,012 --> 00:33:25,347 Thank you, ma'am. 552 00:33:25,447 --> 00:33:26,848 We're detailed with the Office 553 00:33:26,948 --> 00:33:28,850 of Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr. 554 00:33:28,950 --> 00:33:30,852 Perhaps you've seen Judge Starr on the news. 555 00:33:30,952 --> 00:33:33,555 Well, he's finishing up his investigation, 556 00:33:33,688 --> 00:33:35,524 preparing to make a report to Congress. 557 00:33:35,624 --> 00:33:37,526 We're just here following up on some threads. 558 00:33:37,692 --> 00:33:40,229 Ma'am, as you may know, the president and others 559 00:33:40,362 --> 00:33:42,731 are in legal peril because of false affidavits 560 00:33:42,864 --> 00:33:44,533 filed in the Paula Jones lawsuit. 561 00:33:44,699 --> 00:33:46,901 We're just dotting our i's, Ms. Broaddrick. You understand. 562 00:33:47,035 --> 00:33:50,372 FALLON: Now, here is your Jones affidavit. 563 00:33:50,539 --> 00:33:52,541 You swore this a few months back. 564 00:33:52,641 --> 00:33:54,543 Here, you state that President Bill Clinton 565 00:33:54,709 --> 00:33:57,712 never made any unwanted sexual advances toward you. 566 00:33:57,812 --> 00:34:01,316 Ma'am, were you being truthful when you signed your name 567 00:34:01,383 --> 00:34:03,051 to this statement? 568 00:34:16,931 --> 00:34:18,267 -(door closes) - PAULA: I don't... 569 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,901 I don't get it. 570 00:34:21,236 --> 00:34:23,172 Okay. Thank you. Bye. 571 00:34:24,173 --> 00:34:26,275 (sighs) How was your audition? 572 00:34:26,408 --> 00:34:28,177 It sucked. 573 00:34:28,277 --> 00:34:32,414 - Who was that? - The lawyers. They said... 574 00:34:33,848 --> 00:34:35,617 ...the judge did a summary judgment. 575 00:34:35,750 --> 00:34:38,253 Mm. What is that? 576 00:34:38,353 --> 00:34:40,355 It's... it's bad. 577 00:34:40,422 --> 00:34:44,259 It means that she threw out the case. 578 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,928 The Supreme Court said you had a case. 579 00:34:47,061 --> 00:34:50,131 But now the judge says I don't, so I... 580 00:34:50,265 --> 00:34:51,866 I guess it's over. 581 00:34:51,966 --> 00:34:55,370 What? What-what do we get? How much money we get? 582 00:34:55,470 --> 00:34:57,806 Well, that's what I'm saying. Um... 583 00:34:57,939 --> 00:35:00,309 It's nothing. We get nothing. 584 00:35:00,442 --> 00:35:01,943 - The fuck?! - I know. 585 00:35:02,076 --> 00:35:04,145 - I know, I need to call Susie. - Oh, yeah, great idea. 586 00:35:04,279 --> 00:35:06,315 Smart. She always makes things better. 587 00:35:06,448 --> 00:35:08,650 - Steve, don't. - No, no, we need to go back 588 00:35:08,783 --> 00:35:09,818 and we need to take Clinton's deal. 589 00:35:09,951 --> 00:35:11,119 I wanted that money. 590 00:35:11,253 --> 00:35:14,956 What? No, no, but you and Susie 591 00:35:15,056 --> 00:35:17,125 told me that I shouldn't take it, so... 592 00:35:17,259 --> 00:35:20,495 I don't wanna hear your fucking voice. 593 00:35:20,629 --> 00:35:22,631 Wait, but that is not fair because I-- gosh, 594 00:35:22,764 --> 00:35:25,634 I only ever started doing this 'cause you wanted me to. 595 00:35:25,734 --> 00:35:28,470 I-I did... I did all this for you. 596 00:35:28,603 --> 00:35:31,172 You sound pretty stupid right now with your face 597 00:35:31,306 --> 00:35:33,475 all broken from a nose job. 598 00:35:33,575 --> 00:35:36,144 Because I got a bad nose, 599 00:35:36,245 --> 00:35:38,347 which I didn't even know I had 600 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,982 until you made me do this and be on TV 601 00:35:41,149 --> 00:35:44,486 and people laughed at me, but... 602 00:35:44,586 --> 00:35:47,155 but I did it, like I always do what you say. 603 00:35:47,289 --> 00:35:49,023 You think I liked moving to California, 604 00:35:49,157 --> 00:35:50,492 where I've never seen so many people 605 00:35:50,592 --> 00:35:52,160 who smile while they hate you 606 00:35:52,294 --> 00:35:53,995 and it makes my skin fucking crawl 607 00:35:54,128 --> 00:35:56,331 and it's sunny all day and it's... 608 00:35:56,498 --> 00:35:58,166 You think it'll be better if we move home, 609 00:35:58,267 --> 00:36:00,835 where everyone knows exactly who you are and what you did? 610 00:36:01,002 --> 00:36:02,671 What do you mean, "what I did"? 611 00:36:06,341 --> 00:36:07,842 What do you mean? 612 00:36:10,178 --> 00:36:13,682 Say it. Say it, Steve. 613 00:36:16,885 --> 00:36:18,687 You think I did it. 614 00:36:18,787 --> 00:36:21,690 You think I went up there and I gave him a blow job. 615 00:36:25,394 --> 00:36:27,862 Yeah, okay, okay. 616 00:36:29,230 --> 00:36:32,534 I can take this from Jay Leno 617 00:36:32,634 --> 00:36:37,071 and people laughing at me at Vons, but... 618 00:36:37,205 --> 00:36:39,040 from you? 619 00:36:39,140 --> 00:36:41,042 You're supposed to believe me! 620 00:36:41,142 --> 00:36:45,213 We are fighting to show people that he did me wrong! 621 00:36:45,380 --> 00:36:47,882 And... (laughing) 622 00:36:47,982 --> 00:36:49,884 And in reality, all-all this is-- 623 00:36:49,984 --> 00:36:52,387 all the press conferences and all the magazines 624 00:36:52,521 --> 00:36:54,389 and-and the TV shows 625 00:36:54,523 --> 00:36:57,492 and the lawyers and more lawyers and more lawyers-- 626 00:36:57,592 --> 00:37:01,330 it's just me trying to get you to believe me! 627 00:37:01,396 --> 00:37:06,568 Which we both know you never did, so you know what? 628 00:37:06,701 --> 00:37:09,671 If you want to say I'm stupid, well, fuck you! 629 00:37:09,738 --> 00:37:12,341 But most of all, if I'm stupid on one thing, 630 00:37:12,407 --> 00:37:13,908 it was believing that you were any more 631 00:37:14,042 --> 00:37:17,346 than a chickenshit asshole who cared about me at all! 632 00:37:19,514 --> 00:37:21,182 (panting through nose) 633 00:37:29,524 --> 00:37:32,093 Oh, you think I'm gonna ask you to stay?! 634 00:37:35,296 --> 00:37:36,431 (door slams) 635 00:37:39,601 --> 00:37:41,936 EMMICK: Okay, it's pretty simple. 636 00:37:42,036 --> 00:37:44,305 You listen to all of these tapes. After each one, 637 00:37:44,439 --> 00:37:46,641 you sign the tape, as well as sign 638 00:37:46,775 --> 00:37:47,976 and date those documents, 639 00:37:48,109 --> 00:37:51,279 confirming that the voices are you and Linda Tripp. 640 00:37:51,380 --> 00:37:52,781 I have to listen to all of these? 641 00:37:52,914 --> 00:37:54,616 They're all evidence. 642 00:37:54,716 --> 00:37:56,785 Karin here will sit in with you. 643 00:37:56,885 --> 00:37:58,987 I would, but I gotta get to the courthouse. 644 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,390 What's happening at the courthouse? 645 00:38:05,627 --> 00:38:08,129 FOREWOMAN: Do you, Linda R. Tripp, swear to tell the truth, 646 00:38:08,262 --> 00:38:10,832 the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 647 00:38:10,965 --> 00:38:12,333 I do. 648 00:38:16,170 --> 00:38:17,972 You ready? 649 00:38:21,576 --> 00:38:23,978 -MONICA: Hi. - LINDA: Hi. 650 00:38:25,313 --> 00:38:26,481 How are you? 651 00:38:28,149 --> 00:38:31,486 EMMICK: Uh, now, with Mr. Wisenberg's assistance, 652 00:38:31,586 --> 00:38:33,321 I'd like to read to you 653 00:38:33,488 --> 00:38:36,825 what the grand jury has come to know as Tape 11. 654 00:38:38,593 --> 00:38:40,929 You have a, uh, transcript there. 655 00:38:40,995 --> 00:38:42,697 (clears throat) Okay. 656 00:38:44,666 --> 00:38:46,835 "Linda, I got the creep a tie. 657 00:38:47,001 --> 00:38:49,003 It was 20 bucks at Marshalls." 658 00:38:49,170 --> 00:38:51,005 "Oh, good, who makes it?" 659 00:38:51,172 --> 00:38:53,207 "Calvin Klein. It's gorgeous, Linda." 660 00:38:53,341 --> 00:38:55,510 "Yeah, Marshalls generally, 661 00:38:55,644 --> 00:38:57,546 every now and then, you can hit." 662 00:38:57,679 --> 00:39:00,682 EMMICK: "It's really different from all the other ones I've given him. 663 00:39:00,815 --> 00:39:02,684 "I'm putting a note with it. 664 00:39:02,784 --> 00:39:04,118 I wrote such a funny card to him." 665 00:39:04,185 --> 00:39:05,520 WISENBERG: Linda Tripp laughs. 666 00:39:05,620 --> 00:39:06,855 -(Linda laughs) - MONICA: I said, "This tie will 667 00:39:07,021 --> 00:39:09,223 "look good with either a taupe or navy suit 668 00:39:09,357 --> 00:39:10,725 "and a white or a light blue shirt. 669 00:39:10,859 --> 00:39:13,462 -That is, if you like it." - LINDA: Mm-hmm. 670 00:39:13,528 --> 00:39:15,063 "And then do you know what I wrote? 671 00:39:15,196 --> 00:39:19,033 "I said, 'And just think, now you can pay homage to me 672 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,303 "if you want by having a work week in which you 673 00:39:22,370 --> 00:39:24,138 wear one of my ties every day.'" 674 00:39:24,205 --> 00:39:25,474 Linda Tripp laughs. 675 00:39:25,540 --> 00:39:27,408 Ms. Lewinsky laughs. 676 00:39:27,542 --> 00:39:29,478 -(Monica laughs) - LINDA: 'Cause this is the fifth one, right? 677 00:39:29,544 --> 00:39:31,312 You have to give him one for the weekend days, too. 678 00:39:31,379 --> 00:39:34,716 "That's what I want. That's my fantasy. 679 00:39:34,816 --> 00:39:38,386 To have the creep wear one of my ties every day." 680 00:39:39,387 --> 00:39:43,257 Um, Ms. Tripp, who was the creep? 681 00:39:43,391 --> 00:39:44,893 (chuckles softly) 682 00:39:47,061 --> 00:39:49,498 The president of the United States. 683 00:39:49,564 --> 00:39:53,067 EMMICK: Was this typical of the sort of subject 684 00:39:53,167 --> 00:39:54,903 you and Monica Lewinsky would discuss? 685 00:39:55,036 --> 00:39:57,939 Yes, we almost never talked about anything 686 00:39:58,072 --> 00:40:00,341 aside from the president. (scoffs) 687 00:40:00,408 --> 00:40:02,911 She shared a lot of intimate details with you, did she not? 688 00:40:05,079 --> 00:40:06,347 She did. 689 00:40:06,414 --> 00:40:07,616 MONICA (crying): I was upset before, 690 00:40:07,749 --> 00:40:09,584 but not like I am now. 691 00:40:09,684 --> 00:40:11,085 LINDA: Oh, man. 692 00:40:11,185 --> 00:40:13,021 MONICA: It's too much for one person. 693 00:40:13,121 --> 00:40:15,524 LINDA: Oh, it is too much for one person. 694 00:40:15,624 --> 00:40:16,591 Yes, it is. 695 00:40:16,725 --> 00:40:19,293 EMMICK: Moving into November 1997. 696 00:40:19,427 --> 00:40:23,464 Is it fair to say that Ms. Lewinsky was increasingly 697 00:40:23,598 --> 00:40:25,800 distraught on her calls with you? 698 00:40:25,934 --> 00:40:29,638 Yes, she was obsessed with the president's lack of contact. 699 00:40:29,771 --> 00:40:33,474 And what typically would happen when she tried to make contact? 700 00:40:33,608 --> 00:40:36,545 She would call Betty Currie and then call me 701 00:40:36,645 --> 00:40:37,979 to tell me she called Betty. 702 00:40:38,112 --> 00:40:39,447 And then, if Betty hadn't gotten back to her 703 00:40:39,548 --> 00:40:41,550 within an hour, she would get angry 704 00:40:41,650 --> 00:40:44,052 and call Betty again, then call me again. 705 00:40:44,152 --> 00:40:47,488 Crescendoing to some sort of nuclear outburst. 706 00:40:47,622 --> 00:40:49,323 Okay, now I'd like to move... 707 00:40:49,457 --> 00:40:52,060 Sorry, can I ask a question? 708 00:40:55,964 --> 00:40:58,299 Did you want Monica to stop calling you? 709 00:40:58,432 --> 00:41:00,501 Yes. 710 00:41:00,635 --> 00:41:04,505 Her behavior became volatile. Very erratic. 711 00:41:04,639 --> 00:41:08,476 So why did you not just say, "Please stop calling me"? 712 00:41:08,577 --> 00:41:11,312 (scoffs) That's what my kid said. 713 00:41:11,445 --> 00:41:12,313 So why didn't you? 714 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,483 Well, at a, at a certain point, 715 00:41:15,584 --> 00:41:16,918 you can't unring a bell. 716 00:41:16,985 --> 00:41:19,487 You talk like this was a grave situation 717 00:41:19,588 --> 00:41:22,256 and harmful for Monica, right? 718 00:41:22,323 --> 00:41:24,826 - Yes, very. - But earlier 719 00:41:24,993 --> 00:41:26,661 we heard you encouraging her 720 00:41:26,761 --> 00:41:28,930 to buy him a tie for each day of the week. 721 00:41:28,997 --> 00:41:31,600 Well, that... 722 00:41:31,666 --> 00:41:33,001 I was joking. 723 00:41:33,167 --> 00:41:36,270 And when Monica said, "I got the creep a tie. 724 00:41:36,337 --> 00:41:38,673 It was 20 bucks at Marshalls," 725 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,775 you replied, "Oh, good." 726 00:41:40,842 --> 00:41:42,611 Well, I was being... 727 00:41:43,778 --> 00:41:45,379 That was more of a pro-Marshalls. 728 00:41:45,513 --> 00:41:49,450 So, was this a serious situation or was this a joking matter? 729 00:41:49,517 --> 00:41:51,352 That's one moment out of context. 730 00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:53,855 Or were you just trying to keep her talking? 731 00:41:53,955 --> 00:41:56,390 Because by then you were taping. 732 00:41:57,726 --> 00:41:59,193 I prefer to call it documenting. 733 00:41:59,293 --> 00:42:00,361 MALE JUROR: Why did you tape her? 734 00:42:00,528 --> 00:42:02,230 We'll get to that in just a little bit. 735 00:42:02,363 --> 00:42:04,699 I documented our phone calls because I knew 736 00:42:04,799 --> 00:42:07,068 - I needed evidence. - Evidence for what? 737 00:42:08,536 --> 00:42:10,972 Well, for-- so when I came forward... 738 00:42:11,039 --> 00:42:12,974 - But it was a private matter. - I don't think you comprehend... 739 00:42:13,041 --> 00:42:14,709 It was between Monica and the president. 740 00:42:14,876 --> 00:42:15,877 No one needed to know. 741 00:42:15,977 --> 00:42:18,546 Actually, this was a very young staffer 742 00:42:18,647 --> 00:42:21,049 in a workplace with the most senior official 743 00:42:21,149 --> 00:42:22,884 in that workplace making choices 744 00:42:22,984 --> 00:42:25,720 that were causing her severe distress. 745 00:42:25,887 --> 00:42:28,056 She told me on more than one occasion 746 00:42:28,189 --> 00:42:29,490 she wanted to kill herself. 747 00:42:29,590 --> 00:42:33,394 And still, the president of the United States 748 00:42:33,494 --> 00:42:35,329 used her to meet his needs. 749 00:42:35,396 --> 00:42:39,500 He had total control. His behavior was unconscionable. 750 00:42:42,503 --> 00:42:44,572 It was an abuse of power. 751 00:42:44,706 --> 00:42:46,741 - Mrs. Tripp... - I had to end it. 752 00:42:46,875 --> 00:42:48,509 I had to end it. 753 00:42:53,948 --> 00:42:57,686 Mrs. Tripp, when you chose to... 754 00:42:57,786 --> 00:43:01,089 begin documenting Monica, 755 00:43:01,222 --> 00:43:04,292 you were under enormous stress, correct? 756 00:43:04,425 --> 00:43:07,028 I was terrified. 757 00:43:07,128 --> 00:43:10,531 I knew if I came forward with no evidence, 758 00:43:10,598 --> 00:43:12,133 they would destroy me. 759 00:43:12,266 --> 00:43:15,103 When you say "they," who are you referring to? 760 00:43:15,236 --> 00:43:17,972 (scoffs) Bill Clinton. 761 00:43:18,106 --> 00:43:20,308 And, uh, Hillary Rodham Clinton. 762 00:43:20,441 --> 00:43:22,276 - Oh, man. -(others groan) 763 00:43:24,545 --> 00:43:27,215 The president's lawyer had already made 764 00:43:27,315 --> 00:43:29,650 a defamatory statement about me in Newsweek. 765 00:43:29,784 --> 00:43:31,786 I was sure I was going to be subpoenaed 766 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,321 in the Paula Jones case. 767 00:43:33,454 --> 00:43:35,456 I felt, if I told the truth under oath, 768 00:43:35,556 --> 00:43:37,625 I would lose my job. 769 00:43:37,759 --> 00:43:39,293 Or worse. 770 00:43:39,393 --> 00:43:42,496 You thought if you told the truth in the Paula Jones case... 771 00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:44,132 I was afraid I wouldn't even get the chance. 772 00:43:44,232 --> 00:43:47,001 Are you-- are you saying you thought you would be killed? 773 00:43:47,135 --> 00:43:48,970 Yes. 774 00:43:49,103 --> 00:43:51,339 - Why? - I have what I consider 775 00:43:51,472 --> 00:43:53,141 well-founded fears 776 00:43:53,241 --> 00:43:55,243 of what this administration is capable of. 777 00:43:55,309 --> 00:43:57,078 Can you give an example? 778 00:43:57,145 --> 00:43:59,981 I have, uh, reason to believe 779 00:44:00,114 --> 00:44:02,183 that the Vince Foster tragedy was not 780 00:44:02,316 --> 00:44:05,319 depicted accurately by members of the administration. 781 00:44:05,453 --> 00:44:08,656 Are you-- are you saying he didn't commit suicide? 782 00:44:08,823 --> 00:44:11,325 (chuckles) We will never know. 783 00:44:11,492 --> 00:44:13,494 Mrs. Tripp, do you have information 784 00:44:13,627 --> 00:44:15,696 about the White House and the death of Vince Foster? 785 00:44:15,830 --> 00:44:18,833 I'll just say this. 786 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,836 The day after that tragedy, 787 00:44:21,970 --> 00:44:25,506 the behavior I saw in the West Wing frightened me. 788 00:44:25,673 --> 00:44:28,542 There was a flurry of activity, boxes 789 00:44:28,676 --> 00:44:30,511 and secrecy behind closed doors. 790 00:44:30,644 --> 00:44:33,181 I was concerned, and I was alarmed. 791 00:44:33,314 --> 00:44:36,017 Because people were meeting behind closed doors? 792 00:44:36,117 --> 00:44:40,188 (scoffs) It was far more ominous than that. 793 00:44:40,288 --> 00:44:42,390 (juror scoffs) 794 00:44:43,391 --> 00:44:46,294 I am telling you, under oath today, 795 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,696 that I felt threatened. 796 00:44:48,863 --> 00:44:53,034 And I was angry. And I resented it. 797 00:44:53,201 --> 00:44:56,037 - And still do. - JUROR: I have a question. 798 00:44:56,204 --> 00:44:58,372 Did you ever think about what would happen 799 00:44:58,539 --> 00:45:00,809 to Monica when all this came out? 800 00:45:00,875 --> 00:45:03,377 ♪ 801 00:45:03,544 --> 00:45:06,380 LINDA: All right, call me back, you nut. 802 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,717 -MONICA: Ugh. I will, I will. - Bye. 803 00:45:18,659 --> 00:45:19,894 - Done. - Your attorney 804 00:45:20,028 --> 00:45:21,229 has a car waiting for you out back. 805 00:45:21,329 --> 00:45:22,396 If you want, I can... 806 00:45:22,530 --> 00:45:24,432 I know the way. 807 00:45:24,565 --> 00:45:27,936 (door opens, closes) 808 00:45:29,003 --> 00:45:32,573 I thought, uh, if this became public, 809 00:45:32,706 --> 00:45:35,409 Monica would not be in any sort of danger. 810 00:45:35,543 --> 00:45:37,912 But you said you felt dangers, both personal 811 00:45:38,012 --> 00:45:39,914 and professional, could befall you. 812 00:45:40,014 --> 00:45:42,750 What crossed your mind that would befall Monica? 813 00:45:44,285 --> 00:45:46,420 Uh, what-what would befall her? 814 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,756 JUROR: Did you have any fears for her? 815 00:45:48,890 --> 00:45:50,758 All these details in the publi. 816 00:45:50,892 --> 00:45:53,594 LINDA: She was... I-I think I said this. 817 00:45:53,727 --> 00:45:55,529 Uh, she was suicidal. 818 00:45:55,596 --> 00:45:57,098 JUROR 2: You're not answering her question. 819 00:45:57,198 --> 00:46:02,470 What Monica was going through was extremely unhealthy. 820 00:46:02,603 --> 00:46:04,638 But you didn't think it would bring her harm? 821 00:46:06,140 --> 00:46:08,142 Well, not compared to... 822 00:46:10,811 --> 00:46:12,780 - No. - Why not? 823 00:46:14,615 --> 00:46:15,716 Uh, pardon? 824 00:46:15,816 --> 00:46:18,552 Why would you not think about her? 825 00:46:18,652 --> 00:46:20,654 ♪ 826 00:46:21,956 --> 00:46:26,160 I was thinking that she was in a tremendously bad situation. 827 00:46:26,294 --> 00:46:27,996 (juror scoffs) 828 00:46:28,129 --> 00:46:31,799 And do you feel now she's better off because of what you did? 829 00:46:31,933 --> 00:46:34,335 Do you feel her life is better now? 830 00:46:37,138 --> 00:46:38,472 (breath trembles) 831 00:46:43,677 --> 00:46:46,080 - How'd it go? - Ready, Linda? 832 00:46:47,481 --> 00:46:48,983 You sure? 833 00:46:49,150 --> 00:46:51,085 You don't have to do this right now. 834 00:47:07,168 --> 00:47:08,502 ZACCAGNINI: We understand 835 00:47:08,602 --> 00:47:11,105 there is some interest in hearing from Ms. Tripp. 836 00:47:11,172 --> 00:47:13,707 She will not be taking any questions today. 837 00:47:13,841 --> 00:47:18,012 She has, however, agreed to make some brief remarks. 838 00:47:18,112 --> 00:47:20,548 (cameras clicking) 839 00:47:22,016 --> 00:47:25,219 Good afternoon. I'm not a public speaker. 840 00:47:25,353 --> 00:47:27,221 I'm going to have to refer to my notes. 841 00:47:27,355 --> 00:47:28,356 Please bear with me. 842 00:47:33,527 --> 00:47:36,697 I understand that there's been a great deal of speculation 843 00:47:36,797 --> 00:47:40,201 about just who I am and how I got here. 844 00:47:40,301 --> 00:47:42,703 Well, the answer is simple. 845 00:47:42,803 --> 00:47:46,040 I'm you. I'm just like you. 846 00:47:47,208 --> 00:47:50,544 I'm an average American who found herself in a situation 847 00:47:50,644 --> 00:47:52,880 not of her own making. 848 00:47:52,981 --> 00:47:55,883 Because I am just like you, I ask you to imagine how you 849 00:47:55,984 --> 00:47:58,719 would feel if someone you thought was a friend 850 00:47:58,819 --> 00:48:00,654 urged you to commit a felony. 851 00:48:02,056 --> 00:48:04,825 Imagine how you would feel if your boss's attorney 852 00:48:04,925 --> 00:48:07,728 called you a liar in front of the whole country. 853 00:48:08,929 --> 00:48:10,431 And imagine if that boss 854 00:48:10,564 --> 00:48:13,001 was the president of the United States. 855 00:48:16,070 --> 00:48:19,840 Imagine how you would feel if your employer demoted you 856 00:48:19,940 --> 00:48:23,611 and cast you aside, for daring to tell the truth. 857 00:48:27,681 --> 00:48:30,851 Imagine how it would feel to see the pain in your children's eyes 858 00:48:30,918 --> 00:48:33,454 when they hear a seemingly endless barrage 859 00:48:33,587 --> 00:48:35,789 of lies about their mother. 860 00:48:35,923 --> 00:48:39,793 A mother who is not going out to defend herself. 861 00:48:45,633 --> 00:48:48,469 I've been vilified for taking the path of truth. 862 00:48:49,637 --> 00:48:51,639 I've been maligned by people who have chosen 863 00:48:51,772 --> 00:48:53,707 not to tell the truth, 864 00:48:53,807 --> 00:48:57,111 and who know they are not telling the truth. 865 00:48:57,245 --> 00:48:59,047 To cast me in the role of the villain, 866 00:48:59,147 --> 00:49:01,815 they have enlisted legions of paid prevaricators. 867 00:49:01,949 --> 00:49:03,817 Not surprisingly, many from the entertainment industry 868 00:49:03,951 --> 00:49:06,820 have chosen to ridicule me as well. 869 00:49:07,988 --> 00:49:10,658 Going so far as to even make fun of my appearance 870 00:49:10,791 --> 00:49:14,328 in a manner so mean and so cruel that I pray none of you 871 00:49:14,462 --> 00:49:15,896 is ever subjected to it. 872 00:49:17,965 --> 00:49:19,667 Despite all of that, 873 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,836 I bear no malice towards anyone in this case. 874 00:49:31,812 --> 00:49:33,647 I believe in our country. 875 00:49:34,982 --> 00:49:38,152 As I said, I am no different than any of you. 876 00:49:38,286 --> 00:49:42,323 I believe you have the right to tell the truth under oath 877 00:49:42,423 --> 00:49:44,992 without fear of retribution or worse. 878 00:49:47,095 --> 00:49:50,498 (sighs) I hope that when all the facts are revealed, 879 00:49:50,598 --> 00:49:52,166 you'll understand that it is a right 880 00:49:52,333 --> 00:49:54,602 all of us should be fighting for. 881 00:49:57,338 --> 00:49:58,672 Thank you. 882 00:50:00,941 --> 00:50:02,676 Why did you betray Monica Lewinsky? 883 00:50:03,844 --> 00:50:04,878 We're not taking any questions. 884 00:50:05,012 --> 00:50:07,115 Linda, do you regret taping Monica? 885 00:50:07,181 --> 00:50:09,016 REPROTER: Isn't it true you manipulated her? 886 00:50:09,183 --> 00:50:11,619 REPORTER 2: Did you do all this for a book deal? 887 00:50:22,196 --> 00:50:23,564 NEWSMAN: The atmosphere feels very different 888 00:50:23,697 --> 00:50:24,865 -among the party now. - NEWSWOMAN: Look, I've read 889 00:50:24,965 --> 00:50:26,200 the deposition and it's very clear... 890 00:50:26,300 --> 00:50:27,568 NEWSMAN 2: Members of President Clinton's 891 00:50:27,701 --> 00:50:28,869 own party are now wavering in their support, 892 00:50:28,969 --> 00:50:29,870 including my guest, 893 00:50:30,037 --> 00:50:31,572 Congressman Jim Moran. 894 00:50:31,705 --> 00:50:33,874 MORAN: The fact is he lied to the American people. 895 00:50:34,041 --> 00:50:36,377 That is undoubtedly going to 896 00:50:36,544 --> 00:50:38,979 necessitate impeachment proceedings. 897 00:50:53,227 --> 00:50:57,231 Andrew Johnson-- worst leader this country ever had. 898 00:50:57,331 --> 00:51:00,067 Racist to his core, drunk as hell 899 00:51:00,168 --> 00:51:02,570 the day he took over for Lincoln. 900 00:51:04,004 --> 00:51:07,741 1868 Congress finally impeached his ass. 901 00:51:09,076 --> 00:51:11,912 Only president that's happened to, only one. 902 00:51:13,514 --> 00:51:14,915 Till now. 903 00:51:16,684 --> 00:51:18,919 I hate it when you're like this. 904 00:51:19,052 --> 00:51:22,190 We have not lost anything, not yet. 905 00:51:27,261 --> 00:51:28,929 I'll call Jim Moran. 906 00:51:30,030 --> 00:51:31,699 What'll you say? 907 00:51:31,765 --> 00:51:36,036 I will say that if he thinks he is fighting for me, 908 00:51:36,136 --> 00:51:39,106 then he needs to fight on my side. 909 00:51:39,207 --> 00:51:41,475 And the way I see it, 910 00:51:41,609 --> 00:51:44,278 there are forces that have been trying to take my husband 911 00:51:44,412 --> 00:51:47,147 down his whole life and I don't want them to win. 912 00:51:47,281 --> 00:51:48,982 And I won't let them. 913 00:51:50,218 --> 00:51:52,486 And yes, the right's got the votes, 914 00:51:52,620 --> 00:51:54,222 and I'm sure they will do their worst. 915 00:51:54,322 --> 00:51:55,656 But to state the obvious, 916 00:51:55,789 --> 00:51:57,658 you are not Andrew fucking Johnson. 917 00:51:57,791 --> 00:52:01,462 And the last billion times the GOP has tried to destroy us, 918 00:52:01,595 --> 00:52:03,964 we have wiped the floor with them. 919 00:52:04,097 --> 00:52:05,633 Have you seen the polls? 920 00:52:05,733 --> 00:52:07,635 Every step they take towards this 921 00:52:07,768 --> 00:52:11,739 moronic idea, your approval jumps a point. 922 00:52:11,839 --> 00:52:13,507 Nobody's looking at the polls. 923 00:52:13,641 --> 00:52:15,843 My own party isn't looking at the polls. 924 00:52:15,976 --> 00:52:18,646 They just need permission to forgive you. 925 00:52:18,746 --> 00:52:21,482 Which is something that you can't give them. 926 00:52:24,818 --> 00:52:26,320 But I can. 927 00:52:28,989 --> 00:52:31,158 This is all the FBI interviews? 928 00:52:31,259 --> 00:52:33,026 We're waiting on a few more. 929 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,528 We have a problem. 930 00:52:34,662 --> 00:52:36,163 We need to put Monica back under oath. 931 00:52:36,330 --> 00:52:38,832 - Why? - Our perjury charge rests on the president 932 00:52:38,999 --> 00:52:41,168 claiming that technically he didn't have sex with her because 933 00:52:41,269 --> 00:52:42,936 he never touched her with intent to arouse. 934 00:52:43,003 --> 00:52:45,673 He's lying, but here's hours and hours 935 00:52:45,773 --> 00:52:47,675 of Monica's testimony, and she never once 936 00:52:47,808 --> 00:52:49,277 speaks about all the times 937 00:52:49,343 --> 00:52:51,178 that he touched her with intent to arouse. 938 00:52:51,279 --> 00:52:53,013 It was implied on our chart. 939 00:52:53,180 --> 00:52:56,350 That's weak shit. We need her under oath, in detail, 940 00:52:56,484 --> 00:52:58,286 on all the sex, proving him wrong. 941 00:52:58,352 --> 00:53:00,020 Okay, let's bring her back in. 942 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,024 Gosh, who's going to handle asking her about that? 943 00:53:05,359 --> 00:53:08,529 We are on the record. Monica, you're still under oath. 944 00:53:09,563 --> 00:53:12,533 First, I want to start by asking you a general question. 945 00:53:12,700 --> 00:53:14,568 Did your relationship with President Clinton 946 00:53:14,702 --> 00:53:16,304 start with sex and then evolve into 947 00:53:16,370 --> 00:53:18,038 a friendship or the other way around? 948 00:53:19,707 --> 00:53:22,042 It started with a physical attraction 949 00:53:22,142 --> 00:53:24,712 which led to a sexual relationship. 950 00:53:24,812 --> 00:53:26,880 And then the emotional and... 951 00:53:26,980 --> 00:53:29,483 friendship aspects of that relationship developed 952 00:53:29,550 --> 00:53:32,720 after the beginning of the sexual relationship. 953 00:53:33,887 --> 00:53:35,889 Why don't we start with the first incident 954 00:53:36,056 --> 00:53:38,158 of physical intimacy: November 15, 1995, 955 00:53:38,225 --> 00:53:40,227 which you've already testified some about. 956 00:53:40,328 --> 00:53:42,396 - Okay. - Can you tell me 957 00:53:42,530 --> 00:53:44,164 how the physical intimacy between you two 958 00:53:44,264 --> 00:53:45,499 began that night? 959 00:53:48,502 --> 00:53:49,903 Um... 960 00:53:51,171 --> 00:53:54,007 Well, we were, uh... 961 00:53:54,074 --> 00:53:56,744 in an office alone. 962 00:53:56,844 --> 00:53:58,912 Kissing, you know? 963 00:54:00,414 --> 00:54:03,417 And then what happened after the kissing started? 964 00:54:05,686 --> 00:54:11,925 Um, he started untucking my shirt. 965 00:54:12,025 --> 00:54:13,193 And then what? 966 00:54:16,597 --> 00:54:19,099 I'm sorry. For legal reasons, 967 00:54:19,232 --> 00:54:22,269 I need to get specifically what happened. 968 00:54:22,403 --> 00:54:23,971 Each physical interaction. 969 00:54:25,539 --> 00:54:26,940 Okay. 970 00:54:27,941 --> 00:54:30,277 (sighs) Um... 971 00:54:30,411 --> 00:54:36,116 So, he took off my sweater and, you know... 972 00:54:36,249 --> 00:54:38,218 Did he touch your breasts? 973 00:54:39,653 --> 00:54:42,556 - Yes. - With your bra on or off? 974 00:54:46,126 --> 00:54:48,462 (sighs) I... 975 00:54:48,562 --> 00:54:52,833 I-I... (sighs) I don't remember if I unhooked my bra 976 00:54:52,966 --> 00:54:56,003 or if he, um... 977 00:54:59,139 --> 00:55:02,009 ...lifted my... 978 00:55:02,142 --> 00:55:04,678 bra up over-- This is embarrassing. 979 00:55:04,812 --> 00:55:06,146 I know. 980 00:55:06,246 --> 00:55:07,648 I'm sorry. 981 00:55:13,153 --> 00:55:14,588 But he... 982 00:55:15,823 --> 00:55:18,526 He lifted the bra over your breasts. 983 00:55:18,659 --> 00:55:22,029 Um... sometimes... 984 00:55:25,666 --> 00:55:32,005 ...he would lift my-my breasts out of my bra. God. 985 00:55:32,172 --> 00:55:34,508 Did he touch your breasts with his hands? 986 00:55:34,642 --> 00:55:35,676 Yes. 987 00:55:35,809 --> 00:55:37,678 Did he touch your breasts with his mouth? 988 00:55:39,012 --> 00:55:41,181 - Yes. - Did he touch your genital area? 989 00:55:45,786 --> 00:55:49,189 Uh, I-I know this is... 990 00:55:49,289 --> 00:55:51,692 It's just, um, thinking about other people reading this... 991 00:55:51,792 --> 00:55:54,695 I understand, but I've been instructed 992 00:55:54,862 --> 00:55:56,196 to question you on these details. 993 00:55:56,296 --> 00:55:57,631 - And I have to answer? - Pursuant to the agreement 994 00:55:57,698 --> 00:55:59,633 you have with this office, yes. 995 00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:01,201 Do you understand? 996 00:56:02,536 --> 00:56:04,371 - Yes. - Okay. 997 00:56:05,873 --> 00:56:08,075 Did he touch your genitals on this date? 998 00:56:10,143 --> 00:56:11,211 Yes. 999 00:56:11,311 --> 00:56:13,881 Can you describe exactly how that happened? 1000 00:56:16,717 --> 00:56:18,085 He, um... 1001 00:56:27,394 --> 00:56:29,497 The president... 1002 00:56:29,563 --> 00:56:33,100 uh, got a call, so we moved into a back office. 1003 00:56:35,669 --> 00:56:37,505 While he was on the phone... 1004 00:56:40,574 --> 00:56:44,011 ...he put his hand, uh, down my pants and he... 1005 00:56:44,077 --> 00:56:46,113 stimulated that area. 1006 00:56:46,246 --> 00:56:48,415 Directly on your skin or through underwear? 1007 00:56:51,018 --> 00:56:54,087 It was, um, touching... 1008 00:56:54,187 --> 00:56:57,257 through my underwear at first and then he 1009 00:56:57,390 --> 00:56:59,693 placed his hand under my underwear. 1010 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,929 And did he bring you to orgasm? 1011 00:57:05,766 --> 00:57:07,935 -(quietly): Yes. - Okay. 1012 00:57:09,637 --> 00:57:12,640 On this night, did you perform oral sex on the president? 1013 00:57:12,773 --> 00:57:14,441 Yes. 1014 00:57:16,309 --> 00:57:17,645 Who initiated that? 1015 00:57:17,778 --> 00:57:19,446 I did. 1016 00:57:20,648 --> 00:57:23,984 Did the president say anything to you during this? 1017 00:57:25,619 --> 00:57:26,954 No. 1018 00:57:29,790 --> 00:57:31,158 He was on the phone. 1019 00:57:34,795 --> 00:57:36,664 Would you like a break? 1020 00:57:45,573 --> 00:57:48,408 IMMERGUT: Moving to March 31, 1996, 1021 00:57:48,475 --> 00:57:50,477 did the president stimulate your genitals? 1022 00:57:50,578 --> 00:57:51,979 Yes. 1023 00:57:54,147 --> 00:57:56,416 Was that through clothing? 1024 00:57:58,251 --> 00:57:59,987 Not through clothing. 1025 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,423 And he stimulated your genitals with his hands? 1026 00:58:03,490 --> 00:58:06,827 Yes. And... 1027 00:58:09,429 --> 00:58:10,831 And? 1028 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,368 He used, um... 1029 00:58:17,337 --> 00:58:19,172 He had a cigar. 1030 00:58:23,010 --> 00:58:26,346 I'm sorry, could you speak just a little louder for the tape? 1031 00:58:26,446 --> 00:58:27,848 Okay, sorry. 1032 00:58:27,948 --> 00:58:29,016 He had a cigar. 1033 00:58:29,116 --> 00:58:31,351 Did he insert the cigar into your vagina? 1034 00:58:34,788 --> 00:58:36,690 I'm sorry, I'm gonna need you to answer verbally. 1035 00:58:36,790 --> 00:58:37,858 Yes. 1036 00:58:40,027 --> 00:58:42,195 Whose idea, um...? 1037 00:58:43,797 --> 00:58:45,198 How did that...? 1038 00:58:46,533 --> 00:58:50,203 Um, we were talking, um, 1039 00:58:50,303 --> 00:58:53,707 in the Oval Office... 1040 00:58:53,807 --> 00:58:57,377 one day and he was, 1041 00:58:57,544 --> 00:59:00,213 uh, he-he was chewing on a... 1042 00:59:00,380 --> 00:59:04,885 cigar and he looked at it in a sort of... 1043 00:59:07,087 --> 00:59:10,824 ...naughty way and I said, 1044 00:59:10,891 --> 00:59:15,729 "We can do that sometime." So we did. 1045 00:59:16,830 --> 00:59:19,266 Did you understand it to be arousing? 1046 00:59:20,901 --> 00:59:22,936 - Yes. - Then what happened? 1047 00:59:33,413 --> 00:59:35,115 (quietly): Um... 1048 00:59:36,349 --> 00:59:40,754 He put it in his mouth. He said it tasted good. 1049 00:59:44,257 --> 00:59:46,694 Okay, I have just one last question. 1050 00:59:46,794 --> 00:59:48,428 It goes to your motivation. 1051 00:59:50,097 --> 00:59:53,266 Do you for any reason want to hurt the president? 1052 00:59:55,268 --> 00:59:57,805 No, that's the last thing I want. 1053 00:59:57,938 --> 00:59:59,773 All right. 1054 00:59:59,907 --> 01:00:03,443 Thank you. You did really well, Monica. 1055 01:00:04,978 --> 01:00:07,380 That's all I have. I have to run this in. 1056 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,117 Pam can help you see yourself out. 1057 01:00:11,451 --> 01:00:13,620 Is it a boy or a girl? 1058 01:00:16,156 --> 01:00:19,960 Uh... It's a boy. 1059 01:00:20,060 --> 01:00:21,962 Mazel tov. 1060 01:00:23,396 --> 01:00:25,498 For your sake, I hope this is goodbye. 1061 01:00:25,632 --> 01:00:27,634 ♪ 1062 01:00:41,648 --> 01:00:46,153 I want the full report ready for Congress by Labor Day. 1063 01:00:46,286 --> 01:00:48,088 Judge, that's two weeks from now. 1064 01:00:48,155 --> 01:00:49,990 Any closer to the election and it will 1065 01:00:50,157 --> 01:00:52,159 appear like a political hit on the Democrats. 1066 01:00:52,259 --> 01:00:54,661 Brett, please make sure everyone has their drafts in 1067 01:00:54,762 --> 01:00:55,996 by September 4th. 1068 01:00:56,163 --> 01:00:59,366 - Got it. - Our FBI guys just sent this 302. 1069 01:00:59,499 --> 01:01:01,201 It's a new interview with Jane Doe 5. 1070 01:01:01,334 --> 01:01:03,670 Real name Juanita Broaddrick. She's changing her statement. 1071 01:01:03,837 --> 01:01:06,339 - What she's saying? - That Bill Clinton raped her. 1072 01:01:06,506 --> 01:01:09,342 This is that same woman who, back in January, 1073 01:01:09,442 --> 01:01:11,511 signed an affidavit saying nothing ever happened. 1074 01:01:11,678 --> 01:01:12,846 Right. Now she says that was a lie. 1075 01:01:13,013 --> 01:01:15,215 Why is she lying? Was she coerced by the Clintons? 1076 01:01:15,348 --> 01:01:18,018 - No. - Was she offered something? 1077 01:01:18,118 --> 01:01:20,520 No, no quid pro quo. She's saying she lied at first 1078 01:01:20,687 --> 01:01:22,189 because she didn't want to be involved. 1079 01:01:22,289 --> 01:01:24,858 She's had no contact with Clinton people since the '80s. 1080 01:01:24,958 --> 01:01:26,026 Well, if he didn't pressure her, 1081 01:01:26,126 --> 01:01:27,527 then it doesn't go to his criminality. 1082 01:01:27,627 --> 01:01:30,197 Except for the raping. 1083 01:01:30,297 --> 01:01:31,698 H-He raped her. 1084 01:01:31,865 --> 01:01:34,534 We can't be cluttering the report with all 1085 01:01:34,634 --> 01:01:37,204 the various sexual experiences from his past. 1086 01:01:37,370 --> 01:01:39,406 Yeah, there's only so much ink in the world, Sol. 1087 01:01:39,539 --> 01:01:44,711 I just... Judge, read the 302, read what he did. 1088 01:01:47,981 --> 01:01:50,717 Perjury and obstruction of justice. 1089 01:01:50,884 --> 01:01:52,886 Those are our grounds for impeachment, 1090 01:01:53,053 --> 01:01:55,055 not some lady who changes her mind 1091 01:01:55,222 --> 01:01:56,389 about what happened one night. 1092 01:01:56,556 --> 01:01:58,892 But... (stammers, sighs) 1093 01:02:01,328 --> 01:02:04,898 Okay. So, should we not put her in the report at all? 1094 01:02:04,998 --> 01:02:07,067 It can be an appendix if you want. 1095 01:02:07,167 --> 01:02:08,836 Put her in a footnote. 1096 01:02:10,603 --> 01:02:11,738 Okay. 1097 01:02:16,844 --> 01:02:18,846 ♪ 1098 01:04:03,350 --> 01:04:06,186 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH