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No, rotate.
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You have to rotate it.
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Jesus Christ. May I?
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Oh, thank you.
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That's Linda Tripp.
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- Morning, Ron.
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Hello, Ken, it's Linda Tripp.
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Again. It was alarming enough
to be asked to write a how-to
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manual for my own job,
but it has now been nearly
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one month since I requested
the materials I need to even
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attempt to start on this,
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and-and still
I've received nothing.
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At a minimum,
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I will need my
correspondence books
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and all volumes of the archival
histories of JCOC 59 and 60.
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If anyone cast the slightest
glance at my cubicle,
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they would easily find
all of these on my desk there.
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Lucianne,
have you had any occasion to
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talk to Linda recently?
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I haven't talked to Linda
since, uh, uh, the day
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she wore the wire
to the Ritz-Carlton Hotel.
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Judge Starr asked her
not to be in touch.
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-With anyone?
- Right, with anyone.
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Are you surprised that only one
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out of ten Americans
view her favorably?
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No, not with how the White Houe
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and sundry sympathetic
people have
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framed the discussion
of Linda in such a negative wa.
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Do you think it also
might be that people don't
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like people
who tape their friends?
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Rotate.
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- Hello.
- Hi.
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This is all that there was.
Nothing from your office...
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Ugh.
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Oh, and I, uh...
I checked the machine.
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This lady named Jane
from The New Yorker,
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she left, like, four messages.
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- She's writing
an article about...
- Fabulous.
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There's absolutely nothing
I can do about that.
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Well, you could at least
call her back and talk to her.
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Allison, my attorney made it
very plain. It would be unwise.
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I would lose my immunity.
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Meanwhile,
the Clintons get to turn me
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into Joseph Goebbels.
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And the whole world
believes them.
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Mom, just come home already.
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- I'm sick of staying with Dad.
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Can't blame you on that.
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- Look, the reporters are gone
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from our street
and I go by every day.
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Well, you shouldn't.
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It's not safe.
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But there's no one
there anymore.
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- I mean, come on. Mom?
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This? This is not healthy.
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You have your grand jury thing,
you are under
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so much stress and you are
just sitting here alone
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all day, reading articles
about yourself.
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It's not just my testimony.
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I'm going to make a statement.
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What do you mean?
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I've decided,
once I have my freedom back,
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I'm going to give a speech.
I'm going to address the nation.
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What are you going to say?
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I'm simply
going to tell my story.
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It's not fair.
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He didn't get paraded
down to the courthouse.
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He got to testify at home.
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I'm not the president.
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Okay, no, really--
how do I look?
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I'm going for
"not a deranged whore."
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Okay, what do you
want me to say?
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I'm about to be questioned
by 23 strangers,
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and whoever they are,
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I'm sure they already hate me.
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PLATO
Are you ready?
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BILL
We committed ourselves
to a comprehensive strategy
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to lower the crime rate and mae
America a safer place to live.
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- I gave him that tie.
- What?
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...has shown remarkable result.
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It's Zegna.
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I bought it at the Neiman's
in Mazza Gallerie.
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Does he know that she
is testifying today?
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I'm sure.
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Do you think he's trying
to send her a message?
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I mean, is that even legal?
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- Should I tell someone
about that?
- Mom.
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We should resolve to do better.
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It's fine. I'm not going to
let it mess me up.
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She's here,
she's here! She's in that car!
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Monica!
Hey, Monica!
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I can save you, Monica!
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You are going to hell!
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Monica, how are you feeling?
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Monica, are you in love
with the president?
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Feel ready?
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I'm just excited to see
the inside of a courtroom.
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You know, this is the first time
Starr's given me anything
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to do beyond secretarial work.
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He is old-fashioned.
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And look, Monica and I
are familiar,
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but Starr does have a point.
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It's better that a woman asks
some of these questions.
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- She's here.
- Okay.
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You can bring in the jury.
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- Are they already in there?
- Yes, they've just been seated.
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We'll be right out here,
anytime you need.
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Good morning.
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You can have a seat right there.
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Can you raise your right hand?
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Oh, sure, yes.
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Do you, Monica S. Lewinsky,
swear to tell the truth,
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the whole truth and nothing but
the truth, so help you God?
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I do.
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Now, uh, Ms. Lewinsky,
what we're going to do
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is we're going to start off
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talking about your relationship
with the president.
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Do I not get
to learn people's names?
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Uh, the answer to that is no.
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Um, I know it seems kind of...
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Kind of awkward.
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It's important that the record
have no identifications.
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Oh, okay.
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Now, as we have discussed,
our office feels you'll be more
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comfortable getting certain
questions from Ms. Immergut,
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so I'm going to
turn it over to her now.
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Ms. Lewinsky,
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when did you
start your relationship
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with the president
of the United States?
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November 15, 1995.
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Um, it was during the shutdown
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when I was assigned to
the West Wing.
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Can you tell the grand jury
what happened?
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Around... uh,
around 8:00 in the evening
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I was headed into
Mr. Stephanopoulos's office.
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The president... was in there.
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He invited me into
the next room and then...
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we kissed.
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Did anything else
happen between you?
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Um...
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And we were more...
physically intimate after that.
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And what do you mean by that?
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On that occasion, did you
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perform oral sex
on the president?
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God, this is embarrassing.
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I assure you
we won't be dwelling on this.
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Yes, I did.
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Jesus.
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Was there any other
physical intimacy performed?
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Everything up to oral sex.
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Now, to avoid you having
to go into each subsequent
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act of physical intimacy,
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we'll introduce what we
have marked as Exhibit ML-7.
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Did you provide all
the information listed
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on this chart?
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Yes, I did.
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This details each of
your sexual encounters
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with President Clinton.
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To the best of your knowledge,
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is it all accurate?
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Yes. I want to hide
under this table, but yes.
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Ms. Lewinsky, did your
relationship with the president
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have a... non-sexual component?
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- Yes, it did.
- Could you describe that
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for the grand jury?
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Sure, um...
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It was more than just...
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We enjoyed
being with each other.
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He'd-- we would tell jokes,
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talk about our childhoods,
current events.
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Sometimes we'd just...
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Um, we'd just be affectionate.
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He'd push my hair
out of my face.
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I think back on it and...
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he always made me smile
when I was with him.
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It was a lot of, uh...
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He was sunshine.
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- We okay for a break?
- Uh, yeah, ten minutes?
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Ten minutes, everyone.
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Moving through your affidavit
here, let me ask you a question.
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Paragraph eight begins,
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"I have never had
a sexual relationship
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with the president."
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Is that true?
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- No.
- Okay,
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so the next logical
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why were you willing to
say something false
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under penalty of perjury?
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Uh, I did not think my...
my private relationship
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was anyone's business.
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No one asked me to lie--
not the president, not anyone.
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I made that decision.
By myself.
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And I wish I hadn't,
to put it mildly.
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Thank you.
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Now, the grand jury
has some questions for you.
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- Okay.
- Did you and the president
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ever talk about
denying the relationship
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if anyone asked about it?
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I offered that on-on my own.
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I always told him
I would deny it.
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Why did you keep
that stained black dress?
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- It's a blue dress.
- Blue.
- Blue.
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Answer the question, please.
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Well, I have a lot of clothes,
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and so I don't usually
dry-clean things
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until I'm going
to wear them again.
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Like, I don't know
how you guys are,
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but you have clothes
to dry-clean
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and you kind of keep them
in your closet until you
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dry-clean them all together
when you need them.
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And now I feel like
I'm talking about
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dry-cleaning too much and
the process around dry-cleaning.
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Anyway, with that dress...
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I was going to wear it again
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and when I told Linda that,
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she told me
I looked heavy in it.
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Um, so I-I never
ended up wearing it again.
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Ergo I never cleaned it.
Does that answer your question?
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Ms. Lewinsky, did your mother
ever discourage
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your relationship
with the president?
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Oh, yes.
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Well, then, what kept it going?
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I fell in love.
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I have a question.
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You said you felt you were in
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a real relationship.
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A real connection.
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- Yes.
- With this married man.
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- Yes.
- It's been in the papers
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you had a relationship before.
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Similar to this, a married man.
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The way Kate and Andy Bleiler
made it seem on TV,
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it's-it's not entirely accurate.
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I-If that's the part
that you're, um...
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The only part I know is that
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he was a married man
and had a family.
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Yes.
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Like I know about the president.
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We're asked to trust
your version of events,
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but it seems you arrived
in D.C. and sought out
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a-an affair based on deception
and lies.
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Did you not believe that
this was wrong?
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My intention...
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...when I came to Washington
was to start over.
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I did not want
to have another affair
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with a married man
because it was horrible.
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And I don't know
why I did it again.
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I just know that I did it again.
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And I know a lot of...
a lot of people think that
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that's wrong, and so do I.
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I know there's a lot of work
I need to do on myself.
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I just feel I had to ask
the question because
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a lot of us are confused.
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- I'm not.
- No need to be rude.
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Oh, it's okay.
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In a way, I really,
I really appreciate
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you asking me
where I'm coming from,
258
00:16:34,470 --> 00:16:37,173
'cause most people just assume
when it comes to me, so...
259
00:16:37,273 --> 00:16:40,676
Um, I really respect
your question
260
00:16:40,810 --> 00:16:42,678
and I-I appreciate
what you're saying.
261
00:16:43,679 --> 00:16:44,847
Whatever your name is.
262
00:16:45,014 --> 00:16:46,616
Oh, Ms. Lewinsky...
263
00:16:46,682 --> 00:16:49,352
Can you, can you guys
call me Monica?
264
00:16:49,452 --> 00:16:51,053
Are-are they allowed
to call me Monica?
265
00:16:51,187 --> 00:16:52,522
If you say so.
266
00:16:54,890 --> 00:16:56,192
Sure.
267
00:16:56,292 --> 00:16:59,195
I'm just 25. Please.
268
00:16:59,295 --> 00:17:03,466
But you'll be Ms. Lewinsky
whether you're 25 or 28 or...
269
00:17:03,533 --> 00:17:06,536
- Not when I get married.
270
00:17:06,636 --> 00:17:10,706
Monica, do you
still love the president?
271
00:17:16,579 --> 00:17:19,715
The day they held me
at the Ritz,
272
00:17:19,815 --> 00:17:23,419
they wanted me to turn on him.
273
00:17:23,553 --> 00:17:25,555
I said no.
274
00:17:25,655 --> 00:17:28,558
I-I did not want to do anything
to let him get hurt.
275
00:17:28,691 --> 00:17:30,560
And then when this all came out,
276
00:17:30,693 --> 00:17:32,728
the-the people that
worked for him,
277
00:17:32,862 --> 00:17:34,664
they trashed me.
278
00:17:34,764 --> 00:17:36,266
They claim that they haven't,
279
00:17:36,399 --> 00:17:39,402
but they call me a stalker.
They called me a liar.
280
00:17:39,535 --> 00:17:43,506
They say I'm inappropriate.
I mean, you all know.
281
00:17:44,940 --> 00:17:47,243
And then he makes this speech.
282
00:17:48,511 --> 00:17:50,746
And he says...
283
00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,082
He makes it seem like...
284
00:17:53,183 --> 00:17:55,285
all that he cares about is
how unfair all of this
285
00:17:55,418 --> 00:17:57,453
- has been to him.
- Mm.
286
00:17:59,088 --> 00:18:02,358
So to-- sorry--
to answer your question, um...
287
00:18:05,295 --> 00:18:07,263
...it turns out he's not
who I thought he was.
288
00:18:07,397 --> 00:18:09,799
Monica, about that day
you just mentioned
289
00:18:09,932 --> 00:18:11,767
when you were approached
by Mr. Emmick
290
00:18:11,901 --> 00:18:14,704
and the OIC, can you tell us
a little bit about that?
291
00:18:14,804 --> 00:18:16,272
Oh, um...
292
00:18:16,406 --> 00:18:19,209
If I could ask,
uh, what areas are you
293
00:18:19,309 --> 00:18:20,710
wanting to get into?
294
00:18:20,810 --> 00:18:23,946
Because we're already
tight for time and, uh,
295
00:18:24,079 --> 00:18:25,448
well, you know, there were...
296
00:18:25,581 --> 00:18:27,483
many hours of activity.
297
00:18:27,617 --> 00:18:29,452
Just want to know
about that day.
298
00:18:30,653 --> 00:18:33,489
Okay, well, how about we
table that for now...
299
00:18:33,623 --> 00:18:36,792
- No, I want to hear about that.
- We should be able
to hear about that day.
300
00:18:36,892 --> 00:18:38,160
Let her talk. Why not?
301
00:18:38,294 --> 00:18:40,630
Let her talk.
302
00:18:40,763 --> 00:18:43,132
All right, go ahead.
303
00:18:44,467 --> 00:18:46,336
So, you were approached
in the food court
304
00:18:46,469 --> 00:18:48,638
at Pentagon City
by two FBI agents.
305
00:18:48,804 --> 00:18:50,973
Linda Tripp had lied
to get you there. Is that right?
306
00:18:51,073 --> 00:18:52,475
Uh, yes.
307
00:18:52,642 --> 00:18:55,345
And then they proceeded
to take you up to a hotel room.
308
00:18:55,478 --> 00:18:57,313
Why didn't you
ask for your lawyer?
309
00:18:58,648 --> 00:19:00,015
I did.
310
00:19:01,651 --> 00:19:04,153
But they told me
I was in trouble and that
311
00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,989
I wouldn't be able to help
myself with my attorney present,
312
00:19:07,089 --> 00:19:08,991
so I just did what they said.
313
00:19:09,158 --> 00:19:12,161
It was the FBI
and I was really scared.
314
00:19:12,262 --> 00:19:14,096
What happened
when you got up there?
315
00:19:21,170 --> 00:19:24,440
S-Sorry.
316
00:19:25,508 --> 00:19:28,678
Would it be okay--
uh, can you step out?
317
00:19:31,213 --> 00:19:34,183
Karin can take over
from here, right?
318
00:19:34,284 --> 00:19:36,386
Karin can take over.
319
00:19:36,519 --> 00:19:37,853
Karin can stay.
320
00:19:53,969 --> 00:19:55,705
Thank you.
321
00:20:04,046 --> 00:20:07,483
They said if I called my lawyer,
I wouldn't be offered immunity.
322
00:20:07,550 --> 00:20:09,885
Did you feel threatened by that?
323
00:20:10,820 --> 00:20:13,222
Did they offer you a chance
to call another attorney?
324
00:20:13,323 --> 00:20:14,924
They suggested one.
325
00:20:15,057 --> 00:20:16,892
Did you take them up on that?
326
00:20:17,026 --> 00:20:19,061
- No.
- Why not?
327
00:20:19,161 --> 00:20:21,931
- Because I didn't trust them.
- Hmm.
328
00:20:22,064 --> 00:20:24,500
It sounds as though they
were actively discouraging you
329
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,436
from talking to an attorney.
330
00:20:26,569 --> 00:20:28,404
Well, from talking
to Frank Carter.
331
00:20:28,504 --> 00:20:31,341
Yes, Frank Carter,
my only attorney.
332
00:20:33,008 --> 00:20:34,744
Are we due for
a ten-minute break?
333
00:20:35,745 --> 00:20:37,012
No, ma'am.
334
00:20:49,124 --> 00:20:52,027
It lasted about 12 hours
in total.
335
00:20:52,094 --> 00:20:54,864
FEMALE JUROR
My God. Wow.
336
00:20:54,964 --> 00:20:57,867
And they told me over
and over that I was free
337
00:20:57,967 --> 00:20:59,635
to leave, but I didn't.
338
00:21:02,438 --> 00:21:04,474
I didn't understand
because they also said
339
00:21:04,607 --> 00:21:07,109
they were prepared
to indict me and I could
340
00:21:07,209 --> 00:21:10,145
spend up to 28 years in prison
and that they would
341
00:21:10,279 --> 00:21:14,283
prosecute my mother if I didn't
help them, you know? So...
342
00:21:14,384 --> 00:21:17,487
I was, uh, confused and, uh...
343
00:21:17,620 --> 00:21:19,121
Were you angry?
344
00:21:22,291 --> 00:21:25,127
Yes, mostly at myself.
345
00:21:25,227 --> 00:21:27,296
For ending up in this situation.
346
00:21:29,999 --> 00:21:32,835
And for putting the president
at risk.
347
00:21:32,968 --> 00:21:34,236
And...
348
00:21:36,406 --> 00:21:40,309
And-and for, uh,
doing this to my family.
349
00:21:40,443 --> 00:21:43,913
Monica, they set you in a trap.
350
00:21:43,979 --> 00:21:45,915
- Mm-hmm.
- It's what they do.
351
00:21:45,981 --> 00:21:47,983
Monica, is there anything else
you'd like to add
352
00:21:48,083 --> 00:21:49,318
to your testimony?
353
00:21:49,419 --> 00:21:51,521
We want to give you
the fullest opportunity.
354
00:21:52,522 --> 00:21:54,590
Um...
355
00:21:54,657 --> 00:21:57,092
Uh...
356
00:21:58,994 --> 00:22:03,666
I guess I want to say
that no one asked me to lie.
357
00:22:03,833 --> 00:22:06,536
And I was never
promised a job for my silence.
358
00:22:08,003 --> 00:22:09,505
Mostly I'm sorry.
359
00:22:11,006 --> 00:22:13,342
I'm really sorry for
everything that happened.
360
00:22:17,847 --> 00:22:20,349
- And I hate Linda Tripp.
361
00:22:20,450 --> 00:22:22,051
I know that's right.
362
00:22:22,184 --> 00:22:24,353
Forget her.
363
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,190
- What goes around comes around.
It does.
364
00:22:37,900 --> 00:22:39,535
I am going to go in
and remove some
365
00:22:39,635 --> 00:22:42,204
extra cartilage
and bone right here.
366
00:22:42,304 --> 00:22:44,373
Then I'm going to go ahead
and pull the skin
367
00:22:44,474 --> 00:22:46,709
off of the issue so I can
chisel that bump down.
368
00:22:46,876 --> 00:22:50,045
Then we fracture it
so that we can close the roof,
369
00:22:50,145 --> 00:22:52,047
much the same way
you would on a house.
370
00:22:52,214 --> 00:22:53,215
Does that make sense?
371
00:22:53,382 --> 00:22:55,050
Um...
372
00:22:55,150 --> 00:22:56,486
Yeah.
373
00:22:56,552 --> 00:22:59,221
Dr. Loeb does wonderful work.
374
00:22:59,388 --> 00:23:01,056
Oh, thanks.
Okay, I'm going to go ahead
375
00:23:01,190 --> 00:23:03,392
and step out
and do my final prep.
376
00:23:03,526 --> 00:23:05,327
I'll see you in there.
377
00:23:05,394 --> 00:23:07,162
Okay.
378
00:23:10,833 --> 00:23:13,936
- Where's Steve?
- Oh, he didn't want to come.
379
00:23:14,069 --> 00:23:18,007
Is he still in a funk
about losing his job?
380
00:23:18,073 --> 00:23:19,909
Gosh, yes, he's...
381
00:23:20,042 --> 00:23:23,913
blaming my case and says
the airline fired him because of
382
00:23:24,013 --> 00:23:26,081
pressure from Clinton,
but, Susie,
383
00:23:26,215 --> 00:23:29,184
he wouldn't work the hours
that they wanted him to.
384
00:23:29,251 --> 00:23:30,953
I think that's all that it is.
385
00:23:31,086 --> 00:23:32,522
Well, did you tell him that?
386
00:23:34,023 --> 00:23:36,091
He won't listen to me.
387
00:23:38,861 --> 00:23:41,130
Hey. You nervous?
388
00:23:41,263 --> 00:23:44,133
I'm just glad that
people'll stop making fun
389
00:23:44,266 --> 00:23:45,968
of my big ol' awful nose.
390
00:25:31,807 --> 00:25:35,978
I'm told there is a Russian
children's verse that says,
391
00:25:36,045 --> 00:25:39,548
"What do we plant
when we plant a new wood?
392
00:25:39,649 --> 00:25:43,552
Boats in which waves
can safely be withstood."
393
00:25:43,653 --> 00:25:47,056
In both our nations,
music education is that
394
00:25:47,156 --> 00:25:49,391
sturdy boat that lifts us up,
395
00:25:49,524 --> 00:25:53,228
that carries our unique cultural
treasures into the future.
396
00:25:53,362 --> 00:25:56,832
And now, it is my honor to
introduce to you Bill Clinton,
397
00:25:56,932 --> 00:26:00,269
- president of the United States.
398
00:26:13,115 --> 00:26:15,785
Mr. President, Mr. Bowles
said you wanted this list...
399
00:26:15,918 --> 00:26:18,120
I know what it is. Thanks.
400
00:26:26,261 --> 00:26:28,597
Betty, would you ask
the first lady to come see me?
401
00:26:28,698 --> 00:26:30,265
Right away, sir.
402
00:26:54,156 --> 00:26:55,557
You wanted to see me?
403
00:26:55,657 --> 00:26:58,060
I wanted to say something.
404
00:27:08,838 --> 00:27:12,141
25 years, you're the one
opinion I give a shit about.
405
00:27:13,575 --> 00:27:17,312
Most men of our age, they...
they find their wives so dull
406
00:27:17,479 --> 00:27:20,415
they cringe
when she talks at dinner.
407
00:27:20,482 --> 00:27:22,752
I pity those men.
408
00:27:22,818 --> 00:27:25,154
They don't have what I do.
409
00:27:29,658 --> 00:27:33,162
I gave in to
a disgusting impulse.
410
00:27:33,295 --> 00:27:35,931
Because I didn't know
how to walk down the hall
411
00:27:35,998 --> 00:27:38,433
and say to my best friend
412
00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:40,770
that this job is lonely
413
00:27:40,836 --> 00:27:43,005
and I'm worn to the bone...
414
00:27:44,206 --> 00:27:46,608
...and I'm dead inside
half the time.
415
00:27:48,510 --> 00:27:50,179
There's been hell raining
down on us
416
00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:52,681
from the day we walked
into this place.
417
00:27:52,782 --> 00:27:55,017
You know, every move
we make-- the right,
418
00:27:55,117 --> 00:27:57,352
the press, they seize,
attack and drag us
419
00:27:57,452 --> 00:28:00,022
through the streets
over nothing.
420
00:28:00,122 --> 00:28:03,692
And I know it's stupid, but when
Newt shuts down the government,
421
00:28:03,793 --> 00:28:06,195
and Starr has slithered
into our lives
422
00:28:06,295 --> 00:28:09,031
to look for malfeasance
in every line of every receipt
423
00:28:09,198 --> 00:28:11,200
of every piddly thing
we've ever bought,
424
00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:13,869
I thought I had to be
strong for us.
425
00:28:14,036 --> 00:28:16,371
And instead, I fucked it all up.
426
00:28:25,881 --> 00:28:28,217
When it first came out,
I was so ashamed I wanted to
427
00:28:28,383 --> 00:28:30,319
crawl in a hole and disappear.
428
00:28:33,222 --> 00:28:35,891
I couldn't bear what I'd done
to you and Chelsea.
429
00:28:37,659 --> 00:28:40,729
I couldn't face telling you,
I just couldn't.
430
00:28:42,898 --> 00:28:45,500
So I made it worse and I lied.
431
00:28:54,176 --> 00:28:58,347
Everything good in my life
comes out of us together.
432
00:29:02,284 --> 00:29:04,854
I don't know who I am
without you.
433
00:29:06,121 --> 00:29:09,091
I know you said you
didn't care why it happened.
434
00:29:09,224 --> 00:29:11,426
But I wanted you to know.
435
00:29:17,366 --> 00:29:18,633
Is that all?
436
00:29:18,767 --> 00:29:20,302
No.
437
00:29:20,435 --> 00:29:21,937
I love you.
438
00:29:22,972 --> 00:29:24,639
That's all.
439
00:29:42,324 --> 00:29:44,493
- Mom?
- Busy.
440
00:29:44,626 --> 00:29:45,895
There's all this stuff in here.
441
00:29:45,995 --> 00:29:47,162
I didn't know that
you were arrested.
442
00:29:47,296 --> 00:29:48,797
It was a teen prank.
443
00:29:48,931 --> 00:29:50,966
Some boys put things in
my purse as a joke.
444
00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:52,667
Okay, but this part
about your dad--
445
00:29:52,801 --> 00:29:54,669
I mean, you don't talk about him
my entire life and I have
446
00:29:54,803 --> 00:29:57,472
no idea why until someone
writes an article about it.
447
00:30:09,818 --> 00:30:11,653
Oh, my God.
448
00:30:17,526 --> 00:30:19,494
Jesus Christ.
449
00:30:22,497 --> 00:30:24,666
- Unbelievable.
- What?
450
00:30:24,833 --> 00:30:26,501
None of this
is what I asked for.
451
00:30:26,601 --> 00:30:29,338
They know what I need
to do my job and they...
452
00:30:29,471 --> 00:30:32,507
they send me a completely
useless pile of paper.
453
00:30:33,842 --> 00:30:35,777
And look at the shape it's in.
454
00:30:43,052 --> 00:30:44,186
This is a message.
455
00:30:44,353 --> 00:30:47,356
Could just be one
of the lazier secretaries.
456
00:30:49,691 --> 00:30:51,026
Bring my purse.
457
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:01,536
- Oh, my God.
- Linda,
458
00:31:01,636 --> 00:31:03,238
I didn't know
you were coming in.
459
00:31:03,372 --> 00:31:05,140
I need to see Ken.
460
00:31:13,715 --> 00:31:16,218
- Excuse me.
- I work here.
461
00:31:16,318 --> 00:31:17,552
Uh...
462
00:31:19,654 --> 00:31:22,557
No, I have to go.
Okay, it's just-- Leave us.
463
00:31:22,691 --> 00:31:25,227
Linda, you know you
cannot just...
464
00:31:25,327 --> 00:31:26,895
Did you oversee
and approve this shipment?
465
00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:28,430
- What?
- It's a simple question.
466
00:31:28,563 --> 00:31:31,833
Did you oversee
and approve this shipment?
467
00:31:31,933 --> 00:31:34,336
- I can't say that I have any...
- Because I asked
for the basic materials
468
00:31:34,436 --> 00:31:36,938
I need to do my job
and what I got
469
00:31:37,072 --> 00:31:39,674
was random printed
email traffic.
470
00:31:39,774 --> 00:31:43,678
Some JCOC participant list
thrown violently into a box.
471
00:31:43,778 --> 00:31:46,415
- Linda.
- This is chilling.
472
00:31:46,548 --> 00:31:50,119
This is veiled hostility
from my colleagues,
473
00:31:50,252 --> 00:31:51,453
simply because
I'm a cooperating witness
474
00:31:51,586 --> 00:31:53,022
in a federal investigation.
475
00:31:53,122 --> 00:31:54,856
I'm sure it was
just an honest mistake.
476
00:31:54,956 --> 00:31:57,526
- We are past that, Ken.
- Listen.
477
00:31:57,592 --> 00:31:59,594
Just write down exactly
what you need
478
00:31:59,694 --> 00:32:01,963
- and then we...
- What I need
479
00:32:02,097 --> 00:32:05,300
is to come here like normal
and do my work.
480
00:32:05,434 --> 00:32:07,636
And I do not doubt that
you'll be able to do that soon,
481
00:32:07,769 --> 00:32:08,703
and that things
will settle down,
482
00:32:08,803 --> 00:32:10,939
but DOD just opened this
investigation
483
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,274
- and until we...
- What?
484
00:32:13,475 --> 00:32:14,643
What investigation?
485
00:32:18,647 --> 00:32:20,282
They'll be contacting you.
486
00:32:20,415 --> 00:32:21,783
When you were hired,
487
00:32:21,916 --> 00:32:26,121
you affirmed on your DD 398 that
you had never been arrested.
488
00:32:26,255 --> 00:32:27,622
Now, The New Yorker
has come out...
489
00:32:27,756 --> 00:32:29,124
It was a teen prank!
490
00:32:29,258 --> 00:32:31,326
- Linda...
- On me!
491
00:32:33,328 --> 00:32:34,796
The charges were dropped.
492
00:32:34,929 --> 00:32:38,333
Linda, you cannot lie
to the Department of Defense
493
00:32:38,467 --> 00:32:40,169
on a security clearance form.
494
00:32:40,302 --> 00:32:42,571
That is a serious crime.
495
00:32:43,638 --> 00:32:45,140
I see.
496
00:32:47,176 --> 00:32:48,477
I see now.
497
00:32:49,478 --> 00:32:50,645
You see what?
498
00:32:50,779 --> 00:32:53,482
They're really coming after me.
499
00:32:53,582 --> 00:32:55,650
Okay, well...
500
00:33:11,032 --> 00:33:13,335
Good afternoon, ma'am.
I'm Special Agent Irons
501
00:33:13,468 --> 00:33:15,170
with the Federal Bureau
of Investigation.
502
00:33:15,337 --> 00:33:17,005
This is Special Agent Fallon.
503
00:33:17,106 --> 00:33:19,341
Do you have
a moment to speak with us?
504
00:33:24,012 --> 00:33:25,347
Thank you, ma'am.
505
00:33:25,447 --> 00:33:26,848
We're detailed with the Office
506
00:33:26,948 --> 00:33:28,850
of Independent Counsel
Kenneth Starr.
507
00:33:28,950 --> 00:33:30,852
Perhaps you've seen
Judge Starr on the news.
508
00:33:30,952 --> 00:33:33,555
Well, he's finishing up
his investigation,
509
00:33:33,688 --> 00:33:35,524
preparing to
make a report to Congress.
510
00:33:35,624 --> 00:33:37,526
We're just here following up
on some threads.
511
00:33:37,692 --> 00:33:40,229
Ma'am, as you may know,
the president and others
512
00:33:40,362 --> 00:33:42,731
are in legal peril because
of false affidavits
513
00:33:42,864 --> 00:33:44,533
filed in the Paula Jones
lawsuit.
514
00:33:44,699 --> 00:33:46,901
We're just dotting our i's,
Ms. Broaddrick. You understand.
515
00:33:47,035 --> 00:33:50,372
Now, here is
your Jones affidavit.
516
00:33:50,539 --> 00:33:52,541
You swore this
a few months back.
517
00:33:52,641 --> 00:33:54,543
Here, you state that
President Bill Clinton
518
00:33:54,709 --> 00:33:57,712
never made any unwanted
sexual advances toward you.
519
00:33:57,812 --> 00:34:01,316
Ma'am, were you being truthful
when you signed your name
520
00:34:01,383 --> 00:34:03,051
to this statement?
521
00:34:16,931 --> 00:34:18,267
I don't...
522
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,901
I don't get it.
523
00:34:21,236 --> 00:34:23,172
Okay. Thank you. Bye.
524
00:34:24,173 --> 00:34:26,275
How was your audition?
525
00:34:26,408 --> 00:34:28,177
It sucked.
526
00:34:28,277 --> 00:34:32,414
- Who was that?
- The lawyers. They said...
527
00:34:33,848 --> 00:34:35,617
...the judge did
a summary judgment.
528
00:34:35,750 --> 00:34:38,253
Mm. What is that?
529
00:34:38,353 --> 00:34:40,355
It's... it's bad.
530
00:34:40,422 --> 00:34:44,259
It means that
she threw out the case.
531
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,928
The Supreme Court said
you had a case.
532
00:34:47,061 --> 00:34:50,131
But now the judge
says I don't, so I...
533
00:34:50,265 --> 00:34:51,866
I guess it's over.
534
00:34:51,966 --> 00:34:55,370
What? What-what do we get?
How much money we get?
535
00:34:55,470 --> 00:34:57,806
Well, that's what
I'm saying. Um...
536
00:34:57,939 --> 00:35:00,309
It's nothing.
We get nothing.
537
00:35:00,442 --> 00:35:01,943
- The fuck?!
- I know.
538
00:35:02,076 --> 00:35:04,145
- I know, I need to call Susie.
- Oh, yeah, great idea.
539
00:35:04,279 --> 00:35:06,315
Smart. She always
makes things better.
540
00:35:06,448 --> 00:35:08,650
- Steve, don't.
- No, no, we need to go back
541
00:35:08,783 --> 00:35:09,818
and we need to
take Clinton's deal.
542
00:35:09,951 --> 00:35:11,119
I wanted that money.
543
00:35:11,253 --> 00:35:14,956
What?
No, no, but you and Susie
544
00:35:15,056 --> 00:35:17,125
told me that
I shouldn't take it, so...
545
00:35:17,259 --> 00:35:20,495
I don't wanna hear
your fucking voice.
546
00:35:20,629 --> 00:35:22,631
Wait, but that is not fair
because I-- gosh,
547
00:35:22,764 --> 00:35:25,634
I only ever started doing this
'cause you wanted me to.
548
00:35:25,734 --> 00:35:28,470
I-I did... I did all this
for you.
549
00:35:28,603 --> 00:35:31,172
You sound pretty stupid
right now with your face
550
00:35:31,306 --> 00:35:33,475
all broken from a nose job.
551
00:35:33,575 --> 00:35:36,144
Because I got a bad nose,
552
00:35:36,245 --> 00:35:38,347
which I didn't even know I had
553
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,982
until you made me do this
and be on TV
554
00:35:41,149 --> 00:35:44,486
and people laughed at me, but...
555
00:35:44,586 --> 00:35:47,155
but I did it, like I always
do what you say.
556
00:35:47,289 --> 00:35:49,023
You think I liked
moving to California,
557
00:35:49,157 --> 00:35:50,492
where I've never seen
so many people
558
00:35:50,592 --> 00:35:52,160
who smile while they hate you
559
00:35:52,294 --> 00:35:53,995
and it makes my skin
fucking crawl
560
00:35:54,128 --> 00:35:56,331
and it's sunny all day
and it's...
561
00:35:56,498 --> 00:35:58,166
You think it'll be better
if we move home,
562
00:35:58,267 --> 00:36:00,835
where everyone knows exactly
who you are and what you did?
563
00:36:01,002 --> 00:36:02,671
What do you mean, "what I did"?
564
00:36:06,341 --> 00:36:07,842
What do you mean?
565
00:36:10,178 --> 00:36:13,682
Say it. Say it, Steve.
566
00:36:16,885 --> 00:36:18,687
You think I did it.
567
00:36:18,787 --> 00:36:21,690
You think I went up there
and I gave him a blow job.
568
00:36:25,394 --> 00:36:27,862
Yeah, okay, okay.
569
00:36:29,230 --> 00:36:32,534
I can take this from Jay Leno
570
00:36:32,634 --> 00:36:37,071
and people laughing at me
at Vons, but...
571
00:36:37,205 --> 00:36:39,040
from you?
572
00:36:39,140 --> 00:36:41,042
You're supposed to believe me!
573
00:36:41,142 --> 00:36:45,213
We are fighting to show people
that he did me wrong!
574
00:36:45,380 --> 00:36:47,882
And...
575
00:36:47,982 --> 00:36:49,884
And in reality,
all-all this is--
576
00:36:49,984 --> 00:36:52,387
all the press conferences
and all the magazines
577
00:36:52,521 --> 00:36:54,389
and-and the TV shows
578
00:36:54,523 --> 00:36:57,492
and the lawyers and more lawyers
and more lawyers--
579
00:36:57,592 --> 00:37:01,330
it's just me trying to get you
to believe me!
580
00:37:01,396 --> 00:37:06,568
Which we both know you
never did, so you know what?
581
00:37:06,701 --> 00:37:09,671
If you want to say I'm stupid,
well, fuck you!
582
00:37:09,738 --> 00:37:12,341
But most of all,
if I'm stupid on one thing,
583
00:37:12,407 --> 00:37:13,908
it was believing that
you were any more
584
00:37:14,042 --> 00:37:17,346
than a chickenshit asshole
who cared about me at all!
585
00:37:29,524 --> 00:37:32,093
Oh, you think
I'm gonna ask you to stay?!
586
00:37:39,601 --> 00:37:41,936
Okay, it's pretty simple.
587
00:37:42,036 --> 00:37:44,305
You listen to all of
these tapes. After each one,
588
00:37:44,439 --> 00:37:46,641
you sign the tape,
as well as sign
589
00:37:46,775 --> 00:37:47,976
and date those documents,
590
00:37:48,109 --> 00:37:51,279
confirming that the voices
are you and Linda Tripp.
591
00:37:51,380 --> 00:37:52,781
I have to listen
to all of these?
592
00:37:52,914 --> 00:37:54,616
They're all evidence.
593
00:37:54,716 --> 00:37:56,785
Karin here will sit in with you.
594
00:37:56,885 --> 00:37:58,987
I would, but I gotta get
to the courthouse.
595
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,390
What's happening
at the courthouse?
596
00:38:05,627 --> 00:38:08,129
Do you, Linda R. Tripp,
swear to tell the truth,
597
00:38:08,262 --> 00:38:10,832
the whole truth, and nothing
but the truth, so help you God?
598
00:38:10,965 --> 00:38:12,333
I do.
599
00:38:16,170 --> 00:38:17,972
You ready?
600
00:38:21,576 --> 00:38:23,978
Hi.
Hi.
601
00:38:25,313 --> 00:38:26,481
How are you?
602
00:38:28,149 --> 00:38:31,486
Uh, now, with
Mr. Wisenberg's assistance,
603
00:38:31,586 --> 00:38:33,321
I'd like to read to you
604
00:38:33,488 --> 00:38:36,825
what the grand jury
has come to know as Tape 11.
605
00:38:38,593 --> 00:38:40,929
You have a, uh,
transcript there.
606
00:38:40,995 --> 00:38:42,697
Okay.
607
00:38:44,666 --> 00:38:46,835
"Linda, I got the creep a tie.
608
00:38:47,001 --> 00:38:49,003
It was 20 bucks at Marshalls."
609
00:38:49,170 --> 00:38:51,005
"Oh, good, who makes it?"
610
00:38:51,172 --> 00:38:53,207
"Calvin Klein.
It's gorgeous, Linda."
611
00:38:53,341 --> 00:38:55,510
"Yeah, Marshalls generally,
612
00:38:55,644 --> 00:38:57,546
every now and then,
you can hit."
613
00:38:57,679 --> 00:39:00,682
"It's really different from all
the other ones I've given him.
614
00:39:00,815 --> 00:39:02,684
"I'm putting a note with it.
615
00:39:02,784 --> 00:39:04,118
I wrote such a funny card
to him."
616
00:39:04,185 --> 00:39:05,520
Linda Tripp laughs.
617
00:39:05,620 --> 00:39:06,855
I said, "This tie will
618
00:39:07,021 --> 00:39:09,223
"look good with either
a taupe or navy suit
619
00:39:09,357 --> 00:39:10,725
"and a white
or a light blue shirt.
620
00:39:10,859 --> 00:39:13,462
-That is, if you like it."
Mm-hmm.
621
00:39:13,528 --> 00:39:15,063
"And then do you know
what I wrote?
622
00:39:15,196 --> 00:39:19,033
"I said, 'And just think,
now you can pay homage to me
623
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,303
"if you want by having
a work week in which you
624
00:39:22,370 --> 00:39:24,138
wear one of my ties every day.'"
625
00:39:24,205 --> 00:39:25,474
Linda Tripp laughs.
626
00:39:25,540 --> 00:39:27,408
Ms. Lewinsky laughs.
627
00:39:27,542 --> 00:39:29,478
'Cause this
is the fifth one, right?
628
00:39:29,544 --> 00:39:31,312
You have to give him one
for the weekend days, too.
629
00:39:31,379 --> 00:39:34,716
"That's what I want.
That's my fantasy.
630
00:39:34,816 --> 00:39:38,386
To have the creep
wear one of my ties every day."
631
00:39:39,387 --> 00:39:43,257
Um, Ms. Tripp,
who was the creep?
632
00:39:47,061 --> 00:39:49,498
The president
of the United States.
633
00:39:49,564 --> 00:39:53,067
Was this typical
of the sort of subject
634
00:39:53,167 --> 00:39:54,903
you and Monica Lewinsky
would discuss?
635
00:39:55,036 --> 00:39:57,939
Yes, we almost
never talked about anything
636
00:39:58,072 --> 00:40:00,341
aside from the president.
637
00:40:00,408 --> 00:40:02,911
She shared a lot of intimate
details with you, did she not?
638
00:40:05,079 --> 00:40:06,347
She did.
639
00:40:06,414 --> 00:40:07,616
MONICA
I was upset before,
640
00:40:07,749 --> 00:40:09,584
but not like I am now.
641
00:40:09,684 --> 00:40:11,085
Oh, man.
642
00:40:11,185 --> 00:40:13,021
It's too much for one person.
643
00:40:13,121 --> 00:40:15,524
Oh, it is too much
for one person.
644
00:40:15,624 --> 00:40:16,591
Yes, it is.
645
00:40:16,725 --> 00:40:19,293
Moving into November 1997.
646
00:40:19,427 --> 00:40:23,464
Is it fair to say that
Ms. Lewinsky was increasingly
647
00:40:23,598 --> 00:40:25,800
distraught on her calls with you?
648
00:40:25,934 --> 00:40:29,638
Yes, she was obsessed with
the president's lack of contact.
649
00:40:29,771 --> 00:40:33,474
And what typically would happen
when she tried to make contact?
650
00:40:33,608 --> 00:40:36,545
She would call Betty Currie
and then call me
651
00:40:36,645 --> 00:40:37,979
to tell me she called Betty.
652
00:40:38,112 --> 00:40:39,447
And then, if Betty hadn't
gotten back to her
653
00:40:39,548 --> 00:40:41,550
within an hour,
she would get angry
654
00:40:41,650 --> 00:40:44,052
and call Betty again,
then call me again.
655
00:40:44,152 --> 00:40:47,488
Crescendoing to some sort
of nuclear outburst.
656
00:40:47,622 --> 00:40:49,323
Okay, now I'd like to move...
657
00:40:49,457 --> 00:40:52,060
Sorry, can I ask a question?
658
00:40:55,964 --> 00:40:58,299
Did you want Monica
to stop calling you?
659
00:40:58,432 --> 00:41:00,501
Yes.
660
00:41:00,635 --> 00:41:04,505
Her behavior became volatile.
Very erratic.
661
00:41:04,639 --> 00:41:08,476
So why did you not just say,
"Please stop calling me"?
662
00:41:08,577 --> 00:41:11,312
That's what my kid said.
663
00:41:11,445 --> 00:41:12,313
So why didn't you?
664
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,483
Well, at a,
at a certain point,
665
00:41:15,584 --> 00:41:16,918
you can't unring a bell.
666
00:41:16,985 --> 00:41:19,487
You talk like this was
a grave situation
667
00:41:19,588 --> 00:41:22,256
and harmful for Monica, right?
668
00:41:22,323 --> 00:41:24,826
- Yes, very.
- But earlier
669
00:41:24,993 --> 00:41:26,661
we heard you encouraging her
670
00:41:26,761 --> 00:41:28,930
to buy him a tie for each day
of the week.
671
00:41:28,997 --> 00:41:31,600
Well, that...
672
00:41:31,666 --> 00:41:33,001
I was joking.
673
00:41:33,167 --> 00:41:36,270
And when Monica said,
"I got the creep a tie.
674
00:41:36,337 --> 00:41:38,673
It was 20 bucks at Marshalls,"
675
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,775
you replied, "Oh, good."
676
00:41:40,842 --> 00:41:42,611
Well, I was being...
677
00:41:43,778 --> 00:41:45,379
That was more of
a pro-Marshalls.
678
00:41:45,513 --> 00:41:49,450
So, was this a serious situation
or was this a joking matter?
679
00:41:49,517 --> 00:41:51,352
That's one moment
out of context.
680
00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:53,855
Or were you just trying
to keep her talking?
681
00:41:53,955 --> 00:41:56,390
Because by then you were taping.
682
00:41:57,726 --> 00:41:59,193
I prefer to call it documenting.
683
00:41:59,293 --> 00:42:00,361
Why did you tape her?
684
00:42:00,528 --> 00:42:02,230
We'll get to that
in just a little bit.
685
00:42:02,363 --> 00:42:04,699
I documented our phone calls
because I knew
686
00:42:04,799 --> 00:42:07,068
- I needed evidence.
- Evidence for what?
687
00:42:08,536 --> 00:42:10,972
Well, for--
so when I came forward...
688
00:42:11,039 --> 00:42:12,974
- But it was a private matter.
- I don't think you comprehend...
689
00:42:13,041 --> 00:42:14,709
It was between Monica
and the president.
690
00:42:14,876 --> 00:42:15,877
No one needed to know.
691
00:42:15,977 --> 00:42:18,546
Actually, this was
a very young staffer
692
00:42:18,647 --> 00:42:21,049
in a workplace with
the most senior official
693
00:42:21,149 --> 00:42:22,884
in that workplace making choices
694
00:42:22,984 --> 00:42:25,720
that were causing her
severe distress.
695
00:42:25,887 --> 00:42:28,056
She told me
on more than one occasion
696
00:42:28,189 --> 00:42:29,490
she wanted to kill herself.
697
00:42:29,590 --> 00:42:33,394
And still, the president
of the United States
698
00:42:33,494 --> 00:42:35,329
used her to meet his needs.
699
00:42:35,396 --> 00:42:39,500
He had total control.
His behavior was unconscionable.
700
00:42:42,503 --> 00:42:44,572
It was an abuse of power.
701
00:42:44,706 --> 00:42:46,741
- Mrs. Tripp...
- I had to end it.
702
00:42:46,875 --> 00:42:48,509
I had to end it.
703
00:42:53,948 --> 00:42:57,686
Mrs. Tripp, when you chose to...
704
00:42:57,786 --> 00:43:01,089
begin documenting Monica,
705
00:43:01,222 --> 00:43:04,292
you were under enormous stress,
correct?
706
00:43:04,425 --> 00:43:07,028
I was terrified.
707
00:43:07,128 --> 00:43:10,531
I knew if I came forward
with no evidence,
708
00:43:10,598 --> 00:43:12,133
they would destroy me.
709
00:43:12,266 --> 00:43:15,103
When you say "they,"
who are you referring to?
710
00:43:15,236 --> 00:43:17,972
Bill Clinton.
711
00:43:18,106 --> 00:43:20,308
And, uh, Hillary Rodham Clinton.
712
00:43:20,441 --> 00:43:22,276
- Oh, man.
713
00:43:24,545 --> 00:43:27,215
The president's lawyer
had already made
714
00:43:27,315 --> 00:43:29,650
a defamatory statement
about me in Newsweek.
715
00:43:29,784 --> 00:43:31,786
I was sure I was
going to be subpoenaed
716
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,321
in the Paula Jones case.
717
00:43:33,454 --> 00:43:35,456
I felt, if I told
the truth under oath,
718
00:43:35,556 --> 00:43:37,625
I would lose my job.
719
00:43:37,759 --> 00:43:39,293
Or worse.
720
00:43:39,393 --> 00:43:42,496
You thought if you told the
truth in the Paula Jones case...
721
00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:44,132
I was afraid I wouldn't even
get the chance.
722
00:43:44,232 --> 00:43:47,001
Are you-- are you saying you
thought you would be killed?
723
00:43:47,135 --> 00:43:48,970
Yes.
724
00:43:49,103 --> 00:43:51,339
- Why?
- I have what I consider
725
00:43:51,472 --> 00:43:53,141
well-founded fears
726
00:43:53,241 --> 00:43:55,243
of what this administration
is capable of.
727
00:43:55,309 --> 00:43:57,078
Can you give an example?
728
00:43:57,145 --> 00:43:59,981
I have, uh, reason to believe
729
00:44:00,114 --> 00:44:02,183
that the Vince Foster
tragedy was not
730
00:44:02,316 --> 00:44:05,319
depicted accurately by
members of the administration.
731
00:44:05,453 --> 00:44:08,656
Are you-- are you saying
he didn't commit suicide?
732
00:44:08,823 --> 00:44:11,325
We will never know.
733
00:44:11,492 --> 00:44:13,494
Mrs. Tripp,
do you have information
734
00:44:13,627 --> 00:44:15,696
about the White House
and the death of Vince Foster?
735
00:44:15,830 --> 00:44:18,833
I'll just say this.
736
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,836
The day after that tragedy,
737
00:44:21,970 --> 00:44:25,506
the behavior I saw in
the West Wing frightened me.
738
00:44:25,673 --> 00:44:28,542
There was a flurry
of activity, boxes
739
00:44:28,676 --> 00:44:30,511
and secrecy behind closed doors.
740
00:44:30,644 --> 00:44:33,181
I was concerned,
and I was alarmed.
741
00:44:33,314 --> 00:44:36,017
Because people were
meeting behind closed doors?
742
00:44:36,117 --> 00:44:40,188
It was far more
ominous than that.
743
00:44:43,391 --> 00:44:46,294
I am telling you,
under oath today,
744
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,696
that I felt threatened.
745
00:44:48,863 --> 00:44:53,034
And I was angry.
And I resented it.
746
00:44:53,201 --> 00:44:56,037
- And still do.
I have a question.
747
00:44:56,204 --> 00:44:58,372
Did you ever think
about what would happen
748
00:44:58,539 --> 00:45:00,809
to Monica
when all this came out?
749
00:45:03,544 --> 00:45:06,380
All right,
call me back, you nut.
750
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,717
Ugh. I will, I will.
- Bye.
751
00:45:18,659 --> 00:45:19,894
- Done.
- Your attorney
752
00:45:20,028 --> 00:45:21,229
has a car waiting for you
out back.
753
00:45:21,329 --> 00:45:22,396
If you want, I can...
754
00:45:22,530 --> 00:45:24,432
I know the way.
755
00:45:29,003 --> 00:45:32,573
I thought, uh,
if this became public,
756
00:45:32,706 --> 00:45:35,409
Monica would not be
in any sort of danger.
757
00:45:35,543 --> 00:45:37,912
But you said you felt dangers,
both personal
758
00:45:38,012 --> 00:45:39,914
and professional,
could befall you.
759
00:45:40,014 --> 00:45:42,750
What crossed your mind
that would befall Monica?
760
00:45:44,285 --> 00:45:46,420
Uh, what-what would befall her?
761
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,756
Did you have any fears for her?
762
00:45:48,890 --> 00:45:50,758
All these details in the publi.
763
00:45:50,892 --> 00:45:53,594
She was...
I-I think I said this.
764
00:45:53,727 --> 00:45:55,529
Uh, she was suicidal.
765
00:45:55,596 --> 00:45:57,098
You're not
answering her question.
766
00:45:57,198 --> 00:46:02,470
What Monica was going through
was extremely unhealthy.
767
00:46:02,603 --> 00:46:04,638
But you didn't think
it would bring her harm?
768
00:46:06,140 --> 00:46:08,142
Well, not compared to...
769
00:46:10,811 --> 00:46:12,780
- No.
- Why not?
770
00:46:14,615 --> 00:46:15,716
Uh, pardon?
771
00:46:15,816 --> 00:46:18,552
Why would you
not think about her?
772
00:46:21,956 --> 00:46:26,160
I was thinking that she was
in a tremendously bad situation.
773
00:46:28,129 --> 00:46:31,799
And do you feel now she's better
off because of what you did?
774
00:46:31,933 --> 00:46:34,335
Do you feel
her life is better now?
775
00:46:43,677 --> 00:46:46,080
- How'd it go?
- Ready, Linda?
776
00:46:47,481 --> 00:46:48,983
You sure?
777
00:46:49,150 --> 00:46:51,085
You don't have
to do this right now.
778
00:47:07,168 --> 00:47:08,502
We understand
779
00:47:08,602 --> 00:47:11,105
there is some interest
in hearing from Ms. Tripp.
780
00:47:11,172 --> 00:47:13,707
She will not be taking
any questions today.
781
00:47:13,841 --> 00:47:18,012
She has, however, agreed
to make some brief remarks.
782
00:47:22,016 --> 00:47:25,219
Good afternoon.
I'm not a public speaker.
783
00:47:25,353 --> 00:47:27,221
I'm going to have to refer
to my notes.
784
00:47:27,355 --> 00:47:28,356
Please bear with me.
785
00:47:33,527 --> 00:47:36,697
I understand that there's
been a great deal of speculation
786
00:47:36,797 --> 00:47:40,201
about just who I am
and how I got here.
787
00:47:40,301 --> 00:47:42,703
Well, the answer is simple.
788
00:47:42,803 --> 00:47:46,040
I'm you.
I'm just like you.
789
00:47:47,208 --> 00:47:50,544
I'm an average American
who found herself in a situation
790
00:47:50,644 --> 00:47:52,880
not of her own making.
791
00:47:52,981 --> 00:47:55,883
Because I am just like you,
I ask you to imagine how you
792
00:47:55,984 --> 00:47:58,719
would feel if someone
you thought was a friend
793
00:47:58,819 --> 00:48:00,654
urged you to commit a felony.
794
00:48:02,056 --> 00:48:04,825
Imagine how you would feel
if your boss's attorney
795
00:48:04,925 --> 00:48:07,728
called you a liar in front
of the whole country.
796
00:48:08,929 --> 00:48:10,431
And imagine if that boss
797
00:48:10,564 --> 00:48:13,001
was the president
of the United States.
798
00:48:16,070 --> 00:48:19,840
Imagine how you would feel
if your employer demoted you
799
00:48:19,940 --> 00:48:23,611
and cast you aside,
for daring to tell the truth.
800
00:48:27,681 --> 00:48:30,851
Imagine how it would feel to see
the pain in your children's eyes
801
00:48:30,918 --> 00:48:33,454
when they hear
a seemingly endless barrage
802
00:48:33,587 --> 00:48:35,789
of lies about their mother.
803
00:48:35,923 --> 00:48:39,793
A mother who is not
going out to defend herself.
804
00:48:45,633 --> 00:48:48,469
I've been vilified for
taking the path of truth.
805
00:48:49,637 --> 00:48:51,639
I've been maligned
by people who have chosen
806
00:48:51,772 --> 00:48:53,707
not to tell the truth,
807
00:48:53,807 --> 00:48:57,111
and who know they
are not telling the truth.
808
00:48:57,245 --> 00:48:59,047
To cast me in the role
of the villain,
809
00:48:59,147 --> 00:49:01,815
they have enlisted
legions of paid prevaricators.
810
00:49:01,949 --> 00:49:03,817
Not surprisingly, many
from the entertainment industry
811
00:49:03,951 --> 00:49:06,820
have chosen to ridicule me
as well.
812
00:49:07,988 --> 00:49:10,658
Going so far as to even
make fun of my appearance
813
00:49:10,791 --> 00:49:14,328
in a manner so mean and so cruel
that I pray none of you
814
00:49:14,462 --> 00:49:15,896
is ever subjected to it.
815
00:49:17,965 --> 00:49:19,667
Despite all of that,
816
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,836
I bear no malice towards
anyone in this case.
817
00:49:31,812 --> 00:49:33,647
I believe in our country.
818
00:49:34,982 --> 00:49:38,152
As I said, I am no different
than any of you.
819
00:49:38,286 --> 00:49:42,323
I believe you have the right
to tell the truth under oath
820
00:49:42,423 --> 00:49:44,992
without fear
of retribution or worse.
821
00:49:47,095 --> 00:49:50,498
I hope that when all
the facts are revealed,
822
00:49:50,598 --> 00:49:52,166
you'll understand that
it is a right
823
00:49:52,333 --> 00:49:54,602
all of us
should be fighting for.
824
00:49:57,338 --> 00:49:58,672
Thank you.
825
00:50:00,941 --> 00:50:02,676
Why did you
betray Monica Lewinsky?
826
00:50:03,844 --> 00:50:04,878
We're not taking any questions.
827
00:50:05,012 --> 00:50:07,115
Linda, do you regret
taping Monica?
828
00:50:07,181 --> 00:50:09,016
Isn't it true
you manipulated her?
829
00:50:09,183 --> 00:50:11,619
Did you do
all this for a book deal?
830
00:50:22,196 --> 00:50:23,564
The atmosphere
feels very different
831
00:50:23,697 --> 00:50:24,865
-among the party now.
Look, I've read
832
00:50:24,965 --> 00:50:26,200
the deposition
and it's very clear...
833
00:50:26,300 --> 00:50:27,568
Members of President Clinton's
834
00:50:27,701 --> 00:50:28,869
own party are now wavering
in their support,
835
00:50:28,969 --> 00:50:29,870
including my guest,
836
00:50:30,037 --> 00:50:31,572
Congressman Jim Moran.
837
00:50:31,705 --> 00:50:33,874
The fact is he lied
to the American people.
838
00:50:34,041 --> 00:50:36,377
That is undoubtedly going to
839
00:50:36,544 --> 00:50:38,979
necessitate impeachment proceedings.
840
00:50:53,227 --> 00:50:57,231
Andrew Johnson-- worst leader
this country ever had.
841
00:50:57,331 --> 00:51:00,067
Racist to his core,
drunk as hell
842
00:51:00,168 --> 00:51:02,570
the day he took over
for Lincoln.
843
00:51:04,004 --> 00:51:07,741
1868 Congress
finally impeached his ass.
844
00:51:09,076 --> 00:51:11,912
Only president
that's happened to, only one.
845
00:51:13,514 --> 00:51:14,915
Till now.
846
00:51:16,684 --> 00:51:18,919
I hate it when you're like this.
847
00:51:19,052 --> 00:51:22,190
We have not
lost anything, not yet.
848
00:51:27,261 --> 00:51:28,929
I'll call Jim Moran.
849
00:51:30,030 --> 00:51:31,699
What'll you say?
850
00:51:31,765 --> 00:51:36,036
I will say that if he thinks
he is fighting for me,
851
00:51:36,136 --> 00:51:39,106
then he needs
to fight on my side.
852
00:51:39,207 --> 00:51:41,475
And the way I see it,
853
00:51:41,609 --> 00:51:44,278
there are forces that have
been trying to take my husband
854
00:51:44,412 --> 00:51:47,147
down his whole life
and I don't want them to win.
855
00:51:47,281 --> 00:51:48,982
And I won't let them.
856
00:51:50,218 --> 00:51:52,486
And yes,
the right's got the votes,
857
00:51:52,620 --> 00:51:54,222
and I'm sure
they will do their worst.
858
00:51:54,322 --> 00:51:55,656
But to state the obvious,
859
00:51:55,789 --> 00:51:57,658
you are not
Andrew fucking Johnson.
860
00:51:57,791 --> 00:52:01,462
And the last billion times
the GOP has tried to destroy us,
861
00:52:01,595 --> 00:52:03,964
we have wiped the floor
with them.
862
00:52:04,097 --> 00:52:05,633
Have you seen the polls?
863
00:52:05,733 --> 00:52:07,635
Every step
they take towards this
864
00:52:07,768 --> 00:52:11,739
moronic idea,
your approval jumps a point.
865
00:52:11,839 --> 00:52:13,507
Nobody's looking at the polls.
866
00:52:13,641 --> 00:52:15,843
My own party
isn't looking at the polls.
867
00:52:15,976 --> 00:52:18,646
They just need
permission to forgive you.
868
00:52:18,746 --> 00:52:21,482
Which is something
that you can't give them.
869
00:52:24,818 --> 00:52:26,320
But I can.
870
00:52:28,989 --> 00:52:31,158
This is all the FBI interviews?
871
00:52:31,259 --> 00:52:33,026
We're waiting on a few more.
872
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,528
We have a problem.
873
00:52:34,662 --> 00:52:36,163
We need to put Monica back
under oath.
874
00:52:36,330 --> 00:52:38,832
- Why?
- Our perjury charge
rests on the president
875
00:52:38,999 --> 00:52:41,168
claiming that technically he
didn't have sex with her because
876
00:52:41,269 --> 00:52:42,936
he never touched her
with intent to arouse.
877
00:52:43,003 --> 00:52:45,673
He's lying,
but here's hours and hours
878
00:52:45,773 --> 00:52:47,675
of Monica's testimony,
and she never once
879
00:52:47,808 --> 00:52:49,277
speaks about all the times
880
00:52:49,343 --> 00:52:51,178
that he touched her
with intent to arouse.
881
00:52:51,279 --> 00:52:53,013
It was implied on our chart.
882
00:52:53,180 --> 00:52:56,350
That's weak shit. We need her
under oath, in detail,
883
00:52:56,484 --> 00:52:58,286
on all the sex,
proving him wrong.
884
00:52:58,352 --> 00:53:00,020
Okay, let's bring her back in.
885
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,024
Gosh, who's going to
handle asking her about that?
886
00:53:05,359 --> 00:53:08,529
We are on the record.
Monica, you're still under oath.
887
00:53:09,563 --> 00:53:12,533
First, I want to start by
asking you a general question.
888
00:53:12,700 --> 00:53:14,568
Did your relationship
with President Clinton
889
00:53:14,702 --> 00:53:16,304
start with sex
and then evolve into
890
00:53:16,370 --> 00:53:18,038
a friendship
or the other way around?
891
00:53:19,707 --> 00:53:22,042
It started with
a physical attraction
892
00:53:22,142 --> 00:53:24,712
which led to
a sexual relationship.
893
00:53:24,812 --> 00:53:26,880
And then the emotional and...
894
00:53:26,980 --> 00:53:29,483
friendship aspects of
that relationship developed
895
00:53:29,550 --> 00:53:32,720
after the beginning of
the sexual relationship.
896
00:53:33,887 --> 00:53:35,889
Why don't we start
with the first incident
897
00:53:36,056 --> 00:53:38,158
November 15, 1995,
898
00:53:38,225 --> 00:53:40,227
which you've already
testified some about.
899
00:53:40,328 --> 00:53:42,396
- Okay.
- Can you tell me
900
00:53:42,530 --> 00:53:44,164
how the physical intimacy
between you two
901
00:53:44,264 --> 00:53:45,499
began that night?
902
00:53:48,502 --> 00:53:49,903
Um...
903
00:53:51,171 --> 00:53:54,007
Well, we were, uh...
904
00:53:54,074 --> 00:53:56,744
in an office alone.
905
00:53:56,844 --> 00:53:58,912
Kissing, you know?
906
00:54:00,414 --> 00:54:03,417
And then what happened
after the kissing started?
907
00:54:05,686 --> 00:54:11,925
Um, he started
untucking my shirt.
908
00:54:12,025 --> 00:54:13,193
And then what?
909
00:54:16,597 --> 00:54:19,099
I'm sorry.
For legal reasons,
910
00:54:19,232 --> 00:54:22,269
I need to get
specifically what happened.
911
00:54:22,403 --> 00:54:23,971
Each physical interaction.
912
00:54:25,539 --> 00:54:26,940
Okay.
913
00:54:27,941 --> 00:54:30,277
Um...
914
00:54:30,411 --> 00:54:36,116
So, he took off my sweater
and, you know...
915
00:54:36,249 --> 00:54:38,218
Did he touch your breasts?
916
00:54:39,653 --> 00:54:42,556
- Yes.
- With your bra on or off?
917
00:54:46,126 --> 00:54:48,462
I...
918
00:54:48,562 --> 00:54:52,833
I-I... I don't
remember if I unhooked my bra
919
00:54:52,966 --> 00:54:56,003
or if he, um...
920
00:54:59,139 --> 00:55:02,009
...lifted my...
921
00:55:02,142 --> 00:55:04,678
bra up over--
This is embarrassing.
922
00:55:04,812 --> 00:55:06,146
I know.
923
00:55:06,246 --> 00:55:07,648
I'm sorry.
924
00:55:13,153 --> 00:55:14,588
But he...
925
00:55:15,823 --> 00:55:18,526
He lifted the bra over
your breasts.
926
00:55:18,659 --> 00:55:22,029
Um... sometimes...
927
00:55:25,666 --> 00:55:32,005
...he would lift my-my breasts
out of my bra. God.
928
00:55:32,172 --> 00:55:34,508
Did he touch your breasts
with his hands?
929
00:55:34,642 --> 00:55:35,676
Yes.
930
00:55:35,809 --> 00:55:37,678
Did he touch your breasts
with his mouth?
931
00:55:39,012 --> 00:55:41,181
- Yes.
- Did he touch your genital area?
932
00:55:45,786 --> 00:55:49,189
Uh, I-I know this is...
933
00:55:49,289 --> 00:55:51,692
It's just, um, thinking about
other people reading this...
934
00:55:51,792 --> 00:55:54,695
I understand,
but I've been instructed
935
00:55:54,862 --> 00:55:56,196
to question you
on these details.
936
00:55:56,296 --> 00:55:57,631
- And I have to answer?
- Pursuant to the agreement
937
00:55:57,698 --> 00:55:59,633
you have with this office, yes.
938
00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:01,201
Do you understand?
939
00:56:02,536 --> 00:56:04,371
- Yes.
- Okay.
940
00:56:05,873 --> 00:56:08,075
Did he touch your genitals
on this date?
941
00:56:10,143 --> 00:56:11,211
Yes.
942
00:56:11,311 --> 00:56:13,881
Can you describe
exactly how that happened?
943
00:56:16,717 --> 00:56:18,085
He, um...
944
00:56:27,394 --> 00:56:29,497
The president...
945
00:56:29,563 --> 00:56:33,100
uh, got a call, so we moved
into a back office.
946
00:56:35,669 --> 00:56:37,505
While he was on the phone...
947
00:56:40,574 --> 00:56:44,011
...he put his hand, uh,
down my pants and he...
948
00:56:44,077 --> 00:56:46,113
stimulated that area.
949
00:56:46,246 --> 00:56:48,415
Directly on your skin
or through underwear?
950
00:56:51,018 --> 00:56:54,087
It was, um, touching...
951
00:56:54,187 --> 00:56:57,257
through my underwear
at first and then he
952
00:56:57,390 --> 00:56:59,693
placed his hand
under my underwear.
953
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,929
And did he bring you to orgasm?
954
00:57:05,766 --> 00:57:07,935
Yes.
- Okay.
955
00:57:09,637 --> 00:57:12,640
On this night, did you perform
oral sex on the president?
956
00:57:12,773 --> 00:57:14,441
Yes.
957
00:57:16,309 --> 00:57:17,645
Who initiated that?
958
00:57:17,778 --> 00:57:19,446
I did.
959
00:57:20,648 --> 00:57:23,984
Did the president say
anything to you during this?
960
00:57:25,619 --> 00:57:26,954
No.
961
00:57:29,790 --> 00:57:31,158
He was on the phone.
962
00:57:34,795 --> 00:57:36,664
Would you like a break?
963
00:57:45,573 --> 00:57:48,408
Moving to March 31, 1996,
964
00:57:48,475 --> 00:57:50,477
did the president
stimulate your genitals?
965
00:57:50,578 --> 00:57:51,979
Yes.
966
00:57:54,147 --> 00:57:56,416
Was that through clothing?
967
00:57:58,251 --> 00:57:59,987
Not through clothing.
968
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,423
And he stimulated
your genitals with his hands?
969
00:58:03,490 --> 00:58:06,827
Yes. And...
970
00:58:09,429 --> 00:58:10,831
And?
971
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,368
He used, um...
972
00:58:17,337 --> 00:58:19,172
He had a cigar.
973
00:58:23,010 --> 00:58:26,346
I'm sorry, could you speak just
a little louder for the tape?
974
00:58:26,446 --> 00:58:27,848
Okay, sorry.
975
00:58:27,948 --> 00:58:29,016
He had a cigar.
976
00:58:29,116 --> 00:58:31,351
Did he insert the cigar
into your vagina?
977
00:58:34,788 --> 00:58:36,690
I'm sorry, I'm gonna need you
to answer verbally.
978
00:58:36,790 --> 00:58:37,858
Yes.
979
00:58:40,027 --> 00:58:42,195
Whose idea, um...?
980
00:58:43,797 --> 00:58:45,198
How did that...?
981
00:58:46,533 --> 00:58:50,203
Um, we were talking, um,
982
00:58:50,303 --> 00:58:53,707
in the Oval Office...
983
00:58:53,807 --> 00:58:57,377
one day and he was,
984
00:58:57,544 --> 00:59:00,213
uh, he-he was chewing on a...
985
00:59:00,380 --> 00:59:04,885
cigar and he looked at it
in a sort of...
986
00:59:07,087 --> 00:59:10,824
...naughty way and I said,
987
00:59:10,891 --> 00:59:15,729
"We can do that sometime."
So we did.
988
00:59:16,830 --> 00:59:19,266
Did you understand it
to be arousing?
989
00:59:20,901 --> 00:59:22,936
- Yes.
- Then what happened?
990
00:59:33,413 --> 00:59:35,115
Um...
991
00:59:36,349 --> 00:59:40,754
He put it in his mouth.
He said it tasted good.
992
00:59:44,257 --> 00:59:46,694
Okay, I have
just one last question.
993
00:59:46,794 --> 00:59:48,428
It goes to your motivation.
994
00:59:50,097 --> 00:59:53,266
Do you for any reason
want to hurt the president?
995
00:59:55,268 --> 00:59:57,805
No, that's the last thing
I want.
996
00:59:57,938 --> 00:59:59,773
All right.
997
00:59:59,907 --> 01:00:03,443
Thank you.
You did really well, Monica.
998
01:00:04,978 --> 01:00:07,380
That's all I have.
I have to run this in.
999
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,117
Pam can help you see
yourself out.
1000
01:00:11,451 --> 01:00:13,620
Is it a boy or a girl?
1001
01:00:16,156 --> 01:00:19,960
Uh... It's a boy.
1002
01:00:20,060 --> 01:00:21,962
Mazel tov.
1003
01:00:23,396 --> 01:00:25,498
For your sake,
I hope this is goodbye.
1004
01:00:41,648 --> 01:00:46,153
I want the full report ready
for Congress by Labor Day.
1005
01:00:46,286 --> 01:00:48,088
Judge, that's two weeks
from now.
1006
01:00:48,155 --> 01:00:49,990
Any closer to the election
and it will
1007
01:00:50,157 --> 01:00:52,159
appear like a political hit
on the Democrats.
1008
01:00:52,259 --> 01:00:54,661
Brett, please make sure
everyone has their drafts in
1009
01:00:54,762 --> 01:00:55,996
by September 4th.
1010
01:00:56,163 --> 01:00:59,366
- Got it.
- Our FBI guys just
sent this 302.
1011
01:00:59,499 --> 01:01:01,201
It's a new interview
with Jane Doe 5.
1012
01:01:01,334 --> 01:01:03,670
Real name Juanita Broaddrick.
She's changing her statement.
1013
01:01:03,837 --> 01:01:06,339
- What she's saying?
- That Bill Clinton raped her.
1014
01:01:06,506 --> 01:01:09,342
This is that same woman who,
back in January,
1015
01:01:09,442 --> 01:01:11,511
signed an affidavit saying
nothing ever happened.
1016
01:01:11,678 --> 01:01:12,846
Right. Now she says
that was a lie.
1017
01:01:13,013 --> 01:01:15,215
Why is she lying?
Was she coerced by the Clintons?
1018
01:01:15,348 --> 01:01:18,018
- No.
- Was she offered something?
1019
01:01:18,118 --> 01:01:20,520
No, no quid pro quo.
She's saying she lied at first
1020
01:01:20,687 --> 01:01:22,189
because she didn't
want to be involved.
1021
01:01:22,289 --> 01:01:24,858
She's had no contact with
Clinton people since the '80s.
1022
01:01:24,958 --> 01:01:26,026
Well, if he didn't pressure her,
1023
01:01:26,126 --> 01:01:27,527
then it doesn't go
to his criminality.
1024
01:01:27,627 --> 01:01:30,197
Except for the raping.
1025
01:01:30,297 --> 01:01:31,698
H-He raped her.
1026
01:01:31,865 --> 01:01:34,534
We can't be cluttering
the report with all
1027
01:01:34,634 --> 01:01:37,204
the various sexual experiences
from his past.
1028
01:01:37,370 --> 01:01:39,406
Yeah, there's only so much
ink in the world, Sol.
1029
01:01:39,539 --> 01:01:44,711
I just... Judge, read the 302,
read what he did.
1030
01:01:47,981 --> 01:01:50,717
Perjury and obstruction
of justice.
1031
01:01:50,884 --> 01:01:52,886
Those are our grounds
for impeachment,
1032
01:01:53,053 --> 01:01:55,055
not some lady
who changes her mind
1033
01:01:55,222 --> 01:01:56,389
about what happened one night.
1034
01:01:56,556 --> 01:01:58,892
But...
1035
01:02:01,328 --> 01:02:04,898
Okay. So, should we not
put her in the report at all?
1036
01:02:04,998 --> 01:02:07,067
It can be an appendix
if you want.
1037
01:02:07,167 --> 01:02:08,836
Put her in a footnote.
1038
01:02:10,603 --> 01:02:11,738
Okay.
1039
01:04:03,350 --> 01:04:06,186
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