1 00:00:12,819 --> 00:00:14,821 (sizzling) 2 00:00:17,824 --> 00:00:19,493 (knob twisting) 3 00:00:19,593 --> 00:00:21,328 (clicking) 4 00:00:23,163 --> 00:00:24,698 LINDA: No, rotate. 5 00:00:25,832 --> 00:00:27,767 (sizzling) 6 00:00:30,337 --> 00:00:32,005 You have to rotate it. 7 00:00:36,376 --> 00:00:38,445 Jesus Christ. May I? 8 00:00:43,617 --> 00:00:45,619 (clicking accelerates) 9 00:00:52,126 --> 00:00:54,228 (whispering indistinctly) 10 00:00:54,361 --> 00:00:56,130 (timer dings) 11 00:00:59,566 --> 00:01:01,968 Oh, thank you. 12 00:01:12,146 --> 00:01:13,813 (sizzling) 13 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,549 That's Linda Tripp. 14 00:01:15,682 --> 00:01:16,916 (whispering indistinctly) 15 00:01:32,932 --> 00:01:34,934 -(lid creaks) -Morning, Ron. 16 00:01:39,273 --> 00:01:41,341 (whirring) 17 00:01:43,277 --> 00:01:45,945 Hello, Ken, it's Linda Tripp. 18 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:49,082 Again. It was alarming enough to be asked to write a how-to 19 00:01:49,216 --> 00:01:51,685 manual for my own job, but it has now been nearly 20 00:01:51,785 --> 00:01:54,288 one month since I requested the materials I need to even 21 00:01:54,421 --> 00:01:55,789 attempt to start on this, 22 00:01:55,922 --> 00:01:57,424 and-and still I've received nothing. 23 00:01:57,557 --> 00:02:00,760 (rattling, clunking) 24 00:02:00,927 --> 00:02:02,262 (sizzling) 25 00:02:02,396 --> 00:02:05,365 (quiet chatter, laughter) 26 00:02:05,432 --> 00:02:07,201 (speaking quietly) 27 00:02:08,302 --> 00:02:09,269 At a minimum, 28 00:02:09,436 --> 00:02:11,205 I will need my correspondence books 29 00:02:11,271 --> 00:02:15,942 and all volumes of the archival histories of JCOC 59 and 60. 30 00:02:19,546 --> 00:02:22,616 If anyone cast the slightest glance at my cubicle, 31 00:02:22,782 --> 00:02:25,452 they would easily find all of these on my desk there. 32 00:02:29,556 --> 00:02:32,058 BOB GOODMAN: Lucianne, have you had any occasion to 33 00:02:32,125 --> 00:02:33,627 talk to Linda recently? 34 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,796 I haven't talked to Linda since, uh, uh, the day 35 00:02:36,896 --> 00:02:38,965 she wore the wire to the Ritz-Carlton Hotel. 36 00:02:39,098 --> 00:02:41,067 Judge Starr asked her not to be in touch. 37 00:02:41,134 --> 00:02:43,637 -With anyone? -Right, with anyone. 38 00:02:43,737 --> 00:02:44,971 GOODMAN: Are you surprised that only one 39 00:02:45,138 --> 00:02:47,574 out of ten Americans view her favorably? 40 00:02:47,641 --> 00:02:49,643 No, not with how the White Houe 41 00:02:49,743 --> 00:02:51,978 and sundry sympathetic people have 42 00:02:52,078 --> 00:02:54,748 framed the discussion of Linda in such a negative wa. 43 00:02:54,814 --> 00:02:57,251 GOODMAN: Do you think it also might be that people don't 44 00:02:57,317 --> 00:02:58,985 like people who tape their friends? 45 00:03:01,087 --> 00:03:03,490 (whirring) 46 00:03:03,657 --> 00:03:05,925 * 47 00:03:06,660 --> 00:03:08,662 (sizzling) 48 00:03:13,500 --> 00:03:14,834 Rotate. 49 00:03:25,945 --> 00:03:28,782 (knocking on door) 50 00:03:29,783 --> 00:03:31,117 -Hello. -Hi. 51 00:03:31,217 --> 00:03:33,687 This is all that there was. Nothing from your office... 52 00:03:33,820 --> 00:03:35,455 Ugh. 53 00:03:40,460 --> 00:03:42,796 Oh, and I, uh... I checked the machine. 54 00:03:42,896 --> 00:03:44,531 This lady named Jane from The New Yorker, 55 00:03:44,664 --> 00:03:46,633 she left, like, four messages. 56 00:03:46,733 --> 00:03:48,302 -She's writing an article about... -Fabulous. 57 00:03:48,402 --> 00:03:50,870 There's absolutely nothing I can do about that. 58 00:03:50,970 --> 00:03:53,740 Well, you could at least call her back and talk to her. 59 00:03:53,873 --> 00:03:56,910 Allison, my attorney made it very plain. It would be unwise. 60 00:03:57,043 --> 00:03:58,244 I would lose my immunity. 61 00:03:58,378 --> 00:04:00,314 Meanwhile, the Clintons get to turn me 62 00:04:00,414 --> 00:04:03,149 into Joseph Goebbels. 63 00:04:03,216 --> 00:04:05,319 And the whole world believes them. 64 00:04:07,987 --> 00:04:09,656 Mom, just come home already. 65 00:04:12,826 --> 00:04:15,228 -I'm sick of staying with Dad. -(chuckles) 66 00:04:16,262 --> 00:04:17,764 Can't blame you on that. 67 00:04:18,998 --> 00:04:20,934 -(chuckles) -Look, the reporters are gone 68 00:04:21,067 --> 00:04:22,736 from our street and I go by every day. 69 00:04:22,836 --> 00:04:24,438 Well, you shouldn't. 70 00:04:24,571 --> 00:04:25,905 It's not safe. 71 00:04:26,005 --> 00:04:27,941 But there's no one there anymore. 72 00:04:28,074 --> 00:04:30,109 -(scoffs) -I mean, come on. Mom? 73 00:04:30,243 --> 00:04:32,512 This? This is not healthy. 74 00:04:32,612 --> 00:04:34,681 You have your grand jury thing, you are under 75 00:04:34,781 --> 00:04:36,916 so much stress and you are just sitting here alone 76 00:04:37,050 --> 00:04:38,952 all day, reading articles about yourself. 77 00:04:41,287 --> 00:04:43,423 It's not just my testimony. 78 00:04:45,124 --> 00:04:47,026 I'm going to make a statement. 79 00:04:47,093 --> 00:04:48,595 What do you mean? 80 00:04:48,728 --> 00:04:52,265 I've decided, once I have my freedom back, 81 00:04:52,432 --> 00:04:56,436 I'm going to give a speech. I'm going to address the nation. 82 00:04:56,570 --> 00:04:58,605 What are you going to say? 83 00:04:59,939 --> 00:05:02,442 I'm simply going to tell my story. 84 00:05:02,609 --> 00:05:04,611 * 85 00:05:12,652 --> 00:05:15,288 (TV newsman speaking quietly) 86 00:05:21,294 --> 00:05:23,397 It's not fair. 87 00:05:23,463 --> 00:05:27,333 He didn't get paraded down to the courthouse. 88 00:05:27,467 --> 00:05:29,335 He got to testify at home. 89 00:05:29,469 --> 00:05:30,904 I'm not the president. 90 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,974 Okay, no, really-- how do I look? 91 00:05:35,074 --> 00:05:36,843 I'm going for "not a deranged whore." 92 00:05:38,077 --> 00:05:40,146 Okay, what do you want me to say? 93 00:05:40,313 --> 00:05:43,983 I'm about to be questioned by 23 strangers, 94 00:05:44,083 --> 00:05:45,318 and whoever they are, 95 00:05:45,485 --> 00:05:47,253 I'm sure they already hate me. 96 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,255 PLATO (calls): Are you ready? 97 00:05:53,427 --> 00:05:56,663 BILL (on TV): We committed ourselves to a comprehensive strategy 98 00:05:56,830 --> 00:06:02,168 to lower the crime rate and mae America a safer place to live. 99 00:06:02,268 --> 00:06:05,038 -I gave him that tie. -What? 100 00:06:05,171 --> 00:06:06,840 ...has shown remarkable result. 101 00:06:06,940 --> 00:06:08,107 It's Zegna. 102 00:06:08,174 --> 00:06:09,943 I bought it at the Neiman's in Mazza Gallerie. 103 00:06:10,009 --> 00:06:12,345 Does he know that she is testifying today? 104 00:06:12,479 --> 00:06:13,547 I'm sure. 105 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,348 Do you think he's trying to send her a message? 106 00:06:15,482 --> 00:06:16,716 I mean, is that even legal? 107 00:06:16,850 --> 00:06:18,184 -Should I tell someone about that? -Mom. 108 00:06:18,284 --> 00:06:19,553 BILL: We should resolve to do better. 109 00:06:19,686 --> 00:06:23,189 It's fine. I'm not going to let it mess me up. 110 00:06:32,866 --> 00:06:37,704 REPORTER: She's here, she's here! She's in that car! 111 00:06:37,837 --> 00:06:39,205 -WOMAN: Monica! -MAN: Hey, Monica! 112 00:06:39,305 --> 00:06:43,643 (crowd clamoring) 113 00:06:43,743 --> 00:06:45,712 I can save you, Monica! 114 00:06:45,812 --> 00:06:47,547 (clamoring continues) 115 00:06:47,681 --> 00:06:49,315 You are going to hell! 116 00:06:49,415 --> 00:06:51,485 Monica, how are you feeling? 117 00:06:51,551 --> 00:06:53,086 (clamoring continues) 118 00:06:53,219 --> 00:06:54,988 Monica, are you in love with the president? 119 00:06:56,422 --> 00:06:58,057 Feel ready? 120 00:06:58,191 --> 00:07:00,426 I'm just excited to see the inside of a courtroom. 121 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,762 You know, this is the first time Starr's given me anything 122 00:07:02,896 --> 00:07:04,564 to do beyond secretarial work. 123 00:07:04,698 --> 00:07:07,233 He is old-fashioned. 124 00:07:07,366 --> 00:07:09,435 And look, Monica and I are familiar, 125 00:07:09,569 --> 00:07:12,105 but Starr does have a point. 126 00:07:12,238 --> 00:07:14,741 It's better that a woman asks some of these questions. 127 00:07:15,742 --> 00:07:17,744 -She's here. -Okay. 128 00:07:17,877 --> 00:07:19,579 You can bring in the jury. 129 00:07:28,354 --> 00:07:32,626 -Are they already in there? -Yes, they've just been seated. 130 00:07:32,759 --> 00:07:35,028 We'll be right out here, anytime you need. 131 00:07:50,276 --> 00:07:51,945 EMMICK: Good morning. 132 00:07:52,078 --> 00:07:54,113 You can have a seat right there. 133 00:08:06,660 --> 00:08:07,894 Can you raise your right hand? 134 00:08:07,961 --> 00:08:09,495 Oh, sure, yes. 135 00:08:11,130 --> 00:08:14,634 Do you, Monica S. Lewinsky, swear to tell the truth, 136 00:08:14,768 --> 00:08:17,303 the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 137 00:08:17,403 --> 00:08:19,072 I do. 138 00:08:22,308 --> 00:08:23,810 (clears throat) 139 00:08:23,977 --> 00:08:26,913 Now, uh, Ms. Lewinsky, what we're going to do 140 00:08:26,980 --> 00:08:28,514 is we're going to start off 141 00:08:28,648 --> 00:08:30,684 talking about your relationship with the president. 142 00:08:32,819 --> 00:08:35,154 Do I not get to learn people's names? 143 00:08:36,322 --> 00:08:40,426 (smacks lips) Uh, the answer to that is no. 144 00:08:40,493 --> 00:08:42,495 Um, I know it seems kind of... 145 00:08:42,662 --> 00:08:43,997 Kind of awkward. 146 00:08:44,097 --> 00:08:48,534 It's important that the record have no identifications. 147 00:08:48,668 --> 00:08:50,336 Oh, okay. 148 00:08:50,436 --> 00:08:53,439 Now, as we have discussed, our office feels you'll be more 149 00:08:53,506 --> 00:08:56,676 comfortable getting certain questions from Ms. Immergut, 150 00:08:56,776 --> 00:08:59,713 so I'm going to turn it over to her now. 151 00:08:59,846 --> 00:09:02,716 Ms. Lewinsky, can you tell the grand jury: 152 00:09:02,849 --> 00:09:04,350 when did you start your relationship 153 00:09:04,483 --> 00:09:07,186 with the president of the United States? 154 00:09:08,354 --> 00:09:10,624 November 15, 1995. 155 00:09:10,690 --> 00:09:13,192 Um, it was during the shutdown 156 00:09:13,292 --> 00:09:14,961 when I was assigned to the West Wing. 157 00:09:15,028 --> 00:09:16,696 Can you tell the grand jury what happened? 158 00:09:18,798 --> 00:09:21,635 Around... uh, around 8:00 in the evening 159 00:09:21,701 --> 00:09:24,971 I was headed into Mr. Stephanopoulos's office. 160 00:09:25,038 --> 00:09:28,307 The president... was in there. 161 00:09:28,407 --> 00:09:33,579 He invited me into the next room and then... 162 00:09:33,713 --> 00:09:34,981 we kissed. 163 00:09:35,048 --> 00:09:38,217 IMMERGUT: Did anything else happen between you? 164 00:09:41,387 --> 00:09:43,056 (sighs) Um... 165 00:09:44,057 --> 00:09:49,262 And we were more... physically intimate after that. 166 00:09:49,395 --> 00:09:51,397 And what do you mean by that? 167 00:10:03,910 --> 00:10:05,078 On that occasion, did you 168 00:10:05,211 --> 00:10:06,512 perform oral sex on the president? 169 00:10:06,612 --> 00:10:09,248 God, this is embarrassing. 170 00:10:09,382 --> 00:10:12,018 I assure you we won't be dwelling on this. 171 00:10:15,121 --> 00:10:16,355 Yes, I did. 172 00:10:16,455 --> 00:10:18,925 Jesus. 173 00:10:19,759 --> 00:10:22,762 Was there any other physical intimacy performed? 174 00:10:26,599 --> 00:10:29,135 Everything up to oral sex. 175 00:10:30,436 --> 00:10:32,939 Now, to avoid you having to go into each subsequent 176 00:10:33,106 --> 00:10:35,274 act of physical intimacy, 177 00:10:35,441 --> 00:10:40,947 we'll introduce what we have marked as Exhibit ML-7. 178 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,116 * 179 00:10:57,063 --> 00:10:58,998 IMMERGUT: Did you provide all the information listed 180 00:10:59,132 --> 00:11:00,466 on this chart? 181 00:11:05,404 --> 00:11:06,806 Yes, I did. 182 00:11:06,973 --> 00:11:10,143 This details each of your sexual encounters 183 00:11:10,309 --> 00:11:11,244 with President Clinton. 184 00:11:11,310 --> 00:11:13,246 To the best of your knowledge, 185 00:11:13,312 --> 00:11:14,647 is it all accurate? 186 00:11:16,182 --> 00:11:20,319 Yes. I want to hide under this table, but yes. 187 00:11:20,419 --> 00:11:24,657 Ms. Lewinsky, did your relationship with the president 188 00:11:24,824 --> 00:11:29,195 have a... non-sexual component? 189 00:11:30,196 --> 00:11:31,430 -Yes, it did. -Could you describe that 190 00:11:31,497 --> 00:11:32,832 for the grand jury? 191 00:11:32,932 --> 00:11:35,501 Sure, um... 192 00:11:37,703 --> 00:11:40,006 It was more than just... 193 00:11:41,707 --> 00:11:44,177 We enjoyed being with each other. 194 00:11:46,212 --> 00:11:48,447 He'd-- we would tell jokes, 195 00:11:48,547 --> 00:11:50,950 talk about our childhoods, current events. 196 00:11:51,017 --> 00:11:53,686 Sometimes we'd just... 197 00:11:55,621 --> 00:11:57,390 Um, we'd just be affectionate. 198 00:11:57,523 --> 00:12:01,027 He'd push my hair out of my face. 199 00:12:02,695 --> 00:12:04,864 I think back on it and... 200 00:12:04,964 --> 00:12:07,233 he always made me smile when I was with him. 201 00:12:07,366 --> 00:12:09,702 It was a lot of, uh... 202 00:12:13,139 --> 00:12:14,874 He was sunshine. 203 00:12:22,648 --> 00:12:26,485 -We okay for a break? -Uh, yeah, ten minutes? 204 00:12:27,921 --> 00:12:29,755 Ten minutes, everyone. 205 00:12:51,911 --> 00:12:55,448 EMMICK: Moving through your affidavit here, let me ask you a question. 206 00:12:55,581 --> 00:12:57,851 Paragraph eight begins, 207 00:12:57,951 --> 00:13:00,086 "I have never had a sexual relationship 208 00:13:00,219 --> 00:13:02,088 with the president." 209 00:13:02,221 --> 00:13:03,289 Is that true? 210 00:13:05,591 --> 00:13:06,926 -No. -Okay, 211 00:13:07,026 --> 00:13:09,428 so the next logical follow-up is: 212 00:13:09,562 --> 00:13:12,265 why were you willing to say something false 213 00:13:12,431 --> 00:13:14,267 under penalty of perjury? 214 00:13:16,702 --> 00:13:19,538 Uh, I did not think my... my private relationship 215 00:13:19,605 --> 00:13:21,140 was anyone's business. 216 00:13:24,143 --> 00:13:27,813 No one asked me to lie-- not the president, not anyone. 217 00:13:28,882 --> 00:13:32,451 I made that decision. By myself. 218 00:13:32,551 --> 00:13:36,289 And I wish I hadn't, to put it mildly. 219 00:13:36,455 --> 00:13:38,291 Thank you. 220 00:13:38,391 --> 00:13:41,127 Now, the grand jury has some questions for you. 221 00:13:42,996 --> 00:13:45,498 -Okay. -Did you and the president 222 00:13:45,631 --> 00:13:47,466 ever talk about denying the relationship 223 00:13:47,566 --> 00:13:49,002 if anyone asked about it? 224 00:13:49,135 --> 00:13:52,138 I offered that on-on my own. 225 00:13:52,305 --> 00:13:54,307 I always told him I would deny it. 226 00:13:54,407 --> 00:13:55,841 Why did you keep that stained black dress? 227 00:13:55,975 --> 00:13:57,476 -It's a blue dress. -Blue. -Blue. 228 00:13:57,643 --> 00:13:59,478 Answer the question, please. 229 00:13:59,645 --> 00:14:02,315 Well, I have a lot of clothes, 230 00:14:02,481 --> 00:14:04,984 and so I don't usually dry-clean things 231 00:14:05,151 --> 00:14:06,852 until I'm going to wear them again. 232 00:14:06,986 --> 00:14:08,654 Like, I don't know how you guys are, 233 00:14:08,754 --> 00:14:10,189 but you have clothes to dry-clean 234 00:14:10,323 --> 00:14:12,525 and you kind of keep them in your closet until you 235 00:14:12,658 --> 00:14:15,161 dry-clean them all together when you need them. 236 00:14:15,261 --> 00:14:17,830 And now I feel like I'm talking about 237 00:14:17,997 --> 00:14:20,833 dry-cleaning too much and the process around dry-cleaning. 238 00:14:20,934 --> 00:14:24,670 Anyway, with that dress... 239 00:14:24,770 --> 00:14:26,339 I was going to wear it again 240 00:14:26,505 --> 00:14:28,674 and when I told Linda that, 241 00:14:28,774 --> 00:14:31,010 she told me I looked heavy in it. 242 00:14:32,178 --> 00:14:34,680 Um, so I-I never ended up wearing it again. 243 00:14:34,813 --> 00:14:39,385 Ergo I never cleaned it. Does that answer your question? 244 00:14:40,453 --> 00:14:44,357 Ms. Lewinsky, did your mother ever discourage 245 00:14:44,457 --> 00:14:46,625 your relationship with the president? 246 00:14:47,793 --> 00:14:48,727 Oh, yes. 247 00:14:48,861 --> 00:14:51,630 Well, then, what kept it going? 248 00:14:53,632 --> 00:14:55,368 I fell in love. 249 00:14:56,369 --> 00:14:57,470 I have a question. 250 00:14:57,570 --> 00:14:59,572 You said you felt you were in 251 00:14:59,705 --> 00:15:01,374 a real relationship. 252 00:15:01,507 --> 00:15:02,875 A real connection. 253 00:15:03,009 --> 00:15:05,811 -Yes. -With this married man. 254 00:15:06,912 --> 00:15:08,414 -Yes. -It's been in the papers 255 00:15:08,547 --> 00:15:10,984 you had a relationship before. 256 00:15:11,084 --> 00:15:13,719 Similar to this, a married man. 257 00:15:13,819 --> 00:15:16,755 The way Kate and Andy Bleiler made it seem on TV, 258 00:15:16,889 --> 00:15:19,492 it's-it's not entirely accurate. 259 00:15:19,592 --> 00:15:21,160 I-If that's the part that you're, um... 260 00:15:21,260 --> 00:15:23,262 The only part I know is that 261 00:15:23,396 --> 00:15:25,898 he was a married man and had a family. 262 00:15:26,032 --> 00:15:27,566 Yes. 263 00:15:27,666 --> 00:15:29,935 Like I know about the president. 264 00:15:31,237 --> 00:15:34,740 We're asked to trust your version of events, 265 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,276 but it seems you arrived in D.C. and sought out 266 00:15:37,410 --> 00:15:41,580 a-an affair based on deception and lies. 267 00:15:42,748 --> 00:15:45,118 Did you not believe that this was wrong? 268 00:15:49,355 --> 00:15:51,124 My intention... 269 00:15:52,625 --> 00:15:55,128 ...when I came to Washington was to start over. 270 00:15:56,762 --> 00:15:58,597 I did not want to have another affair 271 00:15:58,731 --> 00:16:00,633 with a married man because it was horrible. 272 00:16:00,766 --> 00:16:03,036 And I don't know why I did it again. 273 00:16:03,102 --> 00:16:06,105 I just know that I did it again. 274 00:16:06,272 --> 00:16:08,107 (sighs) 275 00:16:08,274 --> 00:16:10,776 And I know a lot of... a lot of people think that 276 00:16:10,909 --> 00:16:12,978 that's wrong, and so do I. 277 00:16:13,112 --> 00:16:17,950 I know there's a lot of work I need to do on myself. 278 00:16:19,952 --> 00:16:22,121 I just feel I had to ask the question because 279 00:16:22,255 --> 00:16:23,622 a lot of us are confused. 280 00:16:23,722 --> 00:16:25,458 -I'm not. -No need to be rude. 281 00:16:25,591 --> 00:16:27,293 Oh, it's okay. 282 00:16:27,393 --> 00:16:28,794 In a way, I really, I really appreciate 283 00:16:28,927 --> 00:16:30,296 you asking me where I'm coming from, 284 00:16:30,429 --> 00:16:33,132 'cause most people just assume when it comes to me, so... 285 00:16:33,232 --> 00:16:36,635 Um, I really respect your question 286 00:16:36,769 --> 00:16:38,637 and I-I appreciate what you're saying. 287 00:16:39,638 --> 00:16:40,806 Whatever your name is. 288 00:16:40,973 --> 00:16:42,575 Oh, Ms. Lewinsky... 289 00:16:42,641 --> 00:16:45,311 Can you, can you guys call me Monica? 290 00:16:45,411 --> 00:16:47,012 Are-are they allowed to call me Monica? 291 00:16:47,146 --> 00:16:48,481 If you say so. 292 00:16:50,849 --> 00:16:52,151 Sure. 293 00:16:52,251 --> 00:16:55,154 I'm just 25. Please. (chuckles) 294 00:16:55,254 --> 00:16:59,425 But you'll be Ms. Lewinsky whether you're 25 or 28 or... 295 00:16:59,492 --> 00:17:02,495 -Not when I get married. -(laughter) 296 00:17:02,595 --> 00:17:06,665 Monica, do you still love the president? 297 00:17:12,538 --> 00:17:15,674 The day they held me at the Ritz, 298 00:17:15,774 --> 00:17:19,378 they wanted me to turn on him. 299 00:17:19,512 --> 00:17:21,514 I said no. 300 00:17:21,614 --> 00:17:24,517 I-I did not want to do anything to let him get hurt. 301 00:17:24,650 --> 00:17:26,519 And then when this all came out, 302 00:17:26,652 --> 00:17:28,687 the-the people that worked for him, 303 00:17:28,821 --> 00:17:30,623 they trashed me. 304 00:17:30,723 --> 00:17:32,225 They claim that they haven't, 305 00:17:32,358 --> 00:17:35,361 but they call me a stalker. They called me a liar. 306 00:17:35,494 --> 00:17:39,465 They say I'm inappropriate. I mean, you all know. (sighs) 307 00:17:40,899 --> 00:17:43,202 And then he makes this speech. 308 00:17:44,470 --> 00:17:46,705 And he says... 309 00:17:46,839 --> 00:17:49,041 He makes it seem like... 310 00:17:49,142 --> 00:17:51,244 all that he cares about is how unfair all of this 311 00:17:51,377 --> 00:17:53,412 -has been to him. -Mm. 312 00:17:55,047 --> 00:17:58,317 So to-- sorry-- to answer your question, um... 313 00:18:01,254 --> 00:18:03,222 ...it turns out he's not who I thought he was. 314 00:18:03,356 --> 00:18:05,758 Monica, about that day you just mentioned 315 00:18:05,891 --> 00:18:07,726 when you were approached by Mr. Emmick 316 00:18:07,860 --> 00:18:10,663 and the OIC, can you tell us a little bit about that? 317 00:18:10,763 --> 00:18:12,231 Oh, um... 318 00:18:12,365 --> 00:18:15,168 If I could ask, uh, what areas are you 319 00:18:15,268 --> 00:18:16,669 wanting to get into? 320 00:18:16,769 --> 00:18:19,905 Because we're already tight for time and, uh, 321 00:18:20,038 --> 00:18:21,407 well, you know, there were... 322 00:18:21,540 --> 00:18:23,442 many hours of activity. 323 00:18:23,576 --> 00:18:25,411 Just want to know about that day. 324 00:18:26,612 --> 00:18:29,448 Okay, well, how about we table that for now... 325 00:18:29,582 --> 00:18:32,751 -No, I want to hear about that. -We should be able to hear about that day. 326 00:18:32,851 --> 00:18:34,119 MALE JUROR: Let her talk. Why not? 327 00:18:34,253 --> 00:18:36,589 OTHERS: Let her talk. 328 00:18:36,722 --> 00:18:39,091 All right, go ahead. 329 00:18:40,426 --> 00:18:42,295 So, you were approached in the food court 330 00:18:42,428 --> 00:18:44,597 at Pentagon City by two FBI agents. 331 00:18:44,763 --> 00:18:46,932 Linda Tripp had lied to get you there. Is that right? 332 00:18:47,032 --> 00:18:48,434 Uh, yes. 333 00:18:48,601 --> 00:18:51,304 And then they proceeded to take you up to a hotel room. 334 00:18:51,437 --> 00:18:53,272 Why didn't you ask for your lawyer? 335 00:18:54,607 --> 00:18:55,974 I did. 336 00:18:57,610 --> 00:19:00,112 But they told me I was in trouble and that 337 00:19:00,279 --> 00:19:02,948 I wouldn't be able to help myself with my attorney present, 338 00:19:03,048 --> 00:19:04,950 so I just did what they said. 339 00:19:05,117 --> 00:19:08,120 It was the FBI and I was really scared. 340 00:19:08,221 --> 00:19:10,055 What happened when you got up there? 341 00:19:17,129 --> 00:19:20,399 (sighs) S-Sorry. 342 00:19:21,467 --> 00:19:24,637 Would it be okay-- uh, can you step out? 343 00:19:27,172 --> 00:19:30,142 Karin can take over from here, right? 344 00:19:30,243 --> 00:19:32,345 Karin can take over. 345 00:19:32,478 --> 00:19:33,812 Karin can stay. 346 00:19:37,983 --> 00:19:39,818 (sighs) 347 00:19:43,021 --> 00:19:44,990 (whispers indistinctly) 348 00:19:46,992 --> 00:19:49,828 -(clears throat) -(door opens) 349 00:19:49,928 --> 00:19:51,664 EMMICK: Thank you. 350 00:20:00,005 --> 00:20:03,442 They said if I called my lawyer, I wouldn't be offered immunity. 351 00:20:03,509 --> 00:20:05,844 Did you feel threatened by that? 352 00:20:06,779 --> 00:20:09,181 Did they offer you a chance to call another attorney? 353 00:20:09,282 --> 00:20:10,883 They suggested one. 354 00:20:11,016 --> 00:20:12,851 FEMALE JUROR: Did you take them up on that? 355 00:20:12,985 --> 00:20:15,020 -No. -Why not? 356 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:17,890 -Because I didn't trust them. -Hmm. 357 00:20:18,023 --> 00:20:20,459 It sounds as though they were actively discouraging you 358 00:20:20,559 --> 00:20:22,395 from talking to an attorney. 359 00:20:22,528 --> 00:20:24,363 Well, from talking to Frank Carter. 360 00:20:24,463 --> 00:20:27,300 Yes, Frank Carter, my only attorney. 361 00:20:28,967 --> 00:20:30,703 Are we due for a ten-minute break? 362 00:20:31,704 --> 00:20:32,971 No, ma'am. 363 00:20:33,071 --> 00:20:35,140 (footsteps approaching) 364 00:20:45,083 --> 00:20:47,986 It lasted about 12 hours in total. 365 00:20:48,053 --> 00:20:50,823 FEMALE JUROR (softly): My God. Wow. 366 00:20:50,923 --> 00:20:53,826 And they told me over and over that I was free 367 00:20:53,926 --> 00:20:55,594 to leave, but I didn't. 368 00:20:58,397 --> 00:21:00,433 I didn't understand because they also said 369 00:21:00,566 --> 00:21:03,068 they were prepared to indict me and I could 370 00:21:03,168 --> 00:21:06,104 spend up to 28 years in prison and that they would 371 00:21:06,238 --> 00:21:10,242 prosecute my mother if I didn't help them, you know? So... 372 00:21:10,343 --> 00:21:13,446 I was, uh, confused and, uh... 373 00:21:13,579 --> 00:21:15,080 FEMALE JUROR: Were you angry? 374 00:21:18,250 --> 00:21:21,086 (sniffles) Yes, mostly at myself. 375 00:21:21,186 --> 00:21:23,255 For ending up in this situation. 376 00:21:25,958 --> 00:21:28,794 And for putting the president at risk. 377 00:21:28,927 --> 00:21:30,195 And... 378 00:21:32,365 --> 00:21:36,268 And-and for, uh, doing this to my family. 379 00:21:36,402 --> 00:21:39,872 Monica, they set you in a trap. 380 00:21:39,938 --> 00:21:41,874 -Mm-hmm. -It's what they do. 381 00:21:41,940 --> 00:21:43,942 Monica, is there anything else you'd like to add 382 00:21:44,042 --> 00:21:45,277 to your testimony? 383 00:21:45,378 --> 00:21:47,480 We want to give you the fullest opportunity. 384 00:21:48,481 --> 00:21:50,549 Um... 385 00:21:50,616 --> 00:21:53,051 Uh... 386 00:21:53,118 --> 00:21:54,887 (sighs) 387 00:21:54,953 --> 00:21:59,625 I guess I want to say that no one asked me to lie. 388 00:21:59,792 --> 00:22:02,495 And I was never promised a job for my silence. 389 00:22:03,962 --> 00:22:05,464 Mostly I'm sorry. 390 00:22:06,965 --> 00:22:09,301 I'm really sorry for everything that happened. 391 00:22:13,806 --> 00:22:16,308 -And I hate Linda Tripp. -(laughter) 392 00:22:16,409 --> 00:22:18,010 FEMALE JUROR: I know that's right. 393 00:22:18,143 --> 00:22:20,312 -FEMALE JUROR 2: Forget her. -(others assenting) 394 00:22:20,479 --> 00:22:24,149 -What goes around comes around. -FEMALE JUROR 3: It does. 395 00:22:33,859 --> 00:22:35,494 I am going to go in and remove some 396 00:22:35,594 --> 00:22:38,163 extra cartilage and bone right here. 397 00:22:38,263 --> 00:22:40,332 Then I'm going to go ahead and pull the skin 398 00:22:40,433 --> 00:22:42,668 off of the issue so I can chisel that bump down. 399 00:22:42,835 --> 00:22:46,004 Then we fracture it so that we can close the roof, 400 00:22:46,104 --> 00:22:48,006 much the same way you would on a house. 401 00:22:48,173 --> 00:22:49,174 Does that make sense? 402 00:22:49,341 --> 00:22:51,009 Um... 403 00:22:51,109 --> 00:22:52,445 Yeah. 404 00:22:52,511 --> 00:22:55,180 Dr. Loeb does wonderful work. 405 00:22:55,347 --> 00:22:57,015 Oh, thanks. Okay, I'm going to go ahead 406 00:22:57,149 --> 00:22:59,351 and step out and do my final prep. 407 00:22:59,485 --> 00:23:01,286 I'll see you in there. 408 00:23:01,353 --> 00:23:03,121 Okay. 409 00:23:04,523 --> 00:23:06,692 (exhales) 410 00:23:06,792 --> 00:23:09,895 -Where's Steve? -Oh, he didn't want to come. 411 00:23:10,028 --> 00:23:13,966 Is he still in a funk about losing his job? 412 00:23:14,032 --> 00:23:15,868 Gosh, yes, he's... 413 00:23:16,001 --> 00:23:19,872 blaming my case and says the airline fired him because of 414 00:23:19,972 --> 00:23:22,040 pressure from Clinton, but, Susie, 415 00:23:22,174 --> 00:23:25,143 he wouldn't work the hours that they wanted him to. 416 00:23:25,210 --> 00:23:26,912 I think that's all that it is. 417 00:23:27,045 --> 00:23:28,481 Well, did you tell him that? 418 00:23:29,982 --> 00:23:32,050 He won't listen to me. (scoffs) 419 00:23:32,150 --> 00:23:34,720 (takes deep breath) 420 00:23:34,820 --> 00:23:37,089 Hey. You nervous? 421 00:23:37,222 --> 00:23:40,092 I'm just glad that people'll stop making fun 422 00:23:40,225 --> 00:23:41,927 of my big ol' awful nose. 423 00:23:50,769 --> 00:23:52,404 (engine turns off) 424 00:23:52,505 --> 00:23:53,672 (gate creaks) 425 00:24:31,777 --> 00:24:33,779 * 426 00:24:54,667 --> 00:24:57,302 * 427 00:25:07,479 --> 00:25:09,481 -(playing lively tune) -(rhythmic clapping) 428 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,830 (cheering) 429 00:25:27,766 --> 00:25:31,937 HILLARY: I'm told there is a Russian children's verse that says, 430 00:25:32,004 --> 00:25:35,507 "What do we plant when we plant a new wood? 431 00:25:35,608 --> 00:25:39,511 Boats in which waves can safely be withstood." 432 00:25:39,612 --> 00:25:43,015 In both our nations, music education is that 433 00:25:43,115 --> 00:25:45,350 sturdy boat that lifts us up, 434 00:25:45,483 --> 00:25:49,187 that carries our unique cultural treasures into the future. 435 00:25:49,321 --> 00:25:52,791 And now, it is my honor to introduce to you Bill Clinton, 436 00:25:52,891 --> 00:25:56,228 -president of the United States. -(applause) 437 00:26:09,074 --> 00:26:11,744 Mr. President, Mr. Bowles said you wanted this list... 438 00:26:11,877 --> 00:26:14,079 I know what it is. Thanks. 439 00:26:22,220 --> 00:26:24,556 Betty, would you ask the first lady to come see me? 440 00:26:24,657 --> 00:26:26,224 BETTY: Right away, sir. 441 00:26:46,078 --> 00:26:47,579 (knocking on door) 442 00:26:50,115 --> 00:26:51,516 You wanted to see me? 443 00:26:51,616 --> 00:26:54,019 I wanted to say something. 444 00:26:58,757 --> 00:26:59,958 (door closes) 445 00:27:04,797 --> 00:27:08,100 25 years, you're the one opinion I give a shit about. 446 00:27:09,534 --> 00:27:13,271 Most men of our age, they... they find their wives so dull 447 00:27:13,438 --> 00:27:16,374 they cringe when she talks at dinner. 448 00:27:16,441 --> 00:27:18,711 I pity those men. 449 00:27:18,777 --> 00:27:21,113 They don't have what I do. 450 00:27:25,617 --> 00:27:29,121 I gave in to a disgusting impulse. 451 00:27:29,254 --> 00:27:31,890 Because I didn't know how to walk down the hall 452 00:27:31,957 --> 00:27:34,392 and say to my best friend 453 00:27:34,459 --> 00:27:36,729 that this job is lonely 454 00:27:36,795 --> 00:27:38,964 and I'm worn to the bone... 455 00:27:40,165 --> 00:27:42,567 ...and I'm dead inside half the time. 456 00:27:44,469 --> 00:27:46,138 There's been hell raining down on us 457 00:27:46,238 --> 00:27:48,640 from the day we walked into this place. 458 00:27:48,741 --> 00:27:50,976 You know, every move we make-- the right, 459 00:27:51,076 --> 00:27:53,311 the press, they seize, attack and drag us 460 00:27:53,411 --> 00:27:55,981 through the streets over nothing. 461 00:27:56,081 --> 00:27:59,651 And I know it's stupid, but when Newt shuts down the government, 462 00:27:59,752 --> 00:28:02,154 and Starr has slithered into our lives 463 00:28:02,254 --> 00:28:04,990 to look for malfeasance in every line of every receipt 464 00:28:05,157 --> 00:28:07,159 of every piddly thing we've ever bought, 465 00:28:07,259 --> 00:28:09,828 I thought I had to be strong for us. 466 00:28:09,995 --> 00:28:12,330 And instead, I fucked it all up. 467 00:28:14,833 --> 00:28:16,835 * 468 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,176 When it first came out, I was so ashamed I wanted to 469 00:28:24,342 --> 00:28:26,278 crawl in a hole and disappear. 470 00:28:29,181 --> 00:28:31,850 I couldn't bear what I'd done to you and Chelsea. 471 00:28:33,618 --> 00:28:36,688 I couldn't face telling you, I just couldn't. 472 00:28:38,857 --> 00:28:41,459 So I made it worse and I lied. 473 00:28:50,135 --> 00:28:54,306 Everything good in my life comes out of us together. 474 00:28:58,243 --> 00:29:00,813 I don't know who I am without you. 475 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,050 I know you said you didn't care why it happened. 476 00:29:05,183 --> 00:29:07,385 But I wanted you to know. 477 00:29:13,325 --> 00:29:14,592 Is that all? 478 00:29:14,726 --> 00:29:16,261 No. 479 00:29:16,394 --> 00:29:17,896 I love you. 480 00:29:18,931 --> 00:29:20,598 That's all. 481 00:29:30,108 --> 00:29:31,443 (door closes) 482 00:29:38,283 --> 00:29:40,452 -Mom? -Busy. 483 00:29:40,585 --> 00:29:41,854 There's all this stuff in here. 484 00:29:41,954 --> 00:29:43,121 I didn't know that you were arrested. 485 00:29:43,255 --> 00:29:44,756 It was a teen prank. 486 00:29:44,890 --> 00:29:46,925 Some boys put things in my purse as a joke. 487 00:29:47,059 --> 00:29:48,626 Okay, but this part about your dad-- 488 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,628 I mean, you don't talk about him my entire life and I have 489 00:29:50,762 --> 00:29:53,431 no idea why until someone writes an article about it. 490 00:30:05,777 --> 00:30:07,612 Oh, my God. 491 00:30:13,485 --> 00:30:15,453 Jesus Christ. 492 00:30:18,456 --> 00:30:20,625 -Unbelievable. -What? 493 00:30:20,792 --> 00:30:22,460 None of this is what I asked for. 494 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,297 They know what I need to do my job and they... 495 00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:28,466 they send me a completely useless pile of paper. 496 00:30:29,801 --> 00:30:31,736 And look at the shape it's in. 497 00:30:35,007 --> 00:30:36,808 (scoffs softly) 498 00:30:39,011 --> 00:30:40,145 This is a message. 499 00:30:40,312 --> 00:30:43,315 Could just be one of the lazier secretaries. 500 00:30:45,650 --> 00:30:46,985 Bring my purse. 501 00:30:52,324 --> 00:30:54,526 (quiet chatter) 502 00:30:54,659 --> 00:30:57,495 -Oh, my God. -Linda, 503 00:30:57,595 --> 00:30:59,197 I didn't know you were coming in. 504 00:30:59,331 --> 00:31:01,099 I need to see Ken. 505 00:31:09,674 --> 00:31:12,177 -Excuse me. -I work here. 506 00:31:12,277 --> 00:31:13,511 Uh... 507 00:31:15,613 --> 00:31:18,516 No, I have to go. Okay, it's just-- Leave us. 508 00:31:18,650 --> 00:31:21,186 Linda, you know you cannot just... 509 00:31:21,286 --> 00:31:22,854 Did you oversee and approve this shipment? 510 00:31:22,988 --> 00:31:24,389 -What? -It's a simple question. 511 00:31:24,522 --> 00:31:27,792 Did you oversee and approve this shipment? 512 00:31:27,892 --> 00:31:30,295 -I can't say that I have any... -Because I asked for the basic materials 513 00:31:30,395 --> 00:31:32,897 I need to do my job and what I got 514 00:31:33,031 --> 00:31:35,633 was random printed email traffic. 515 00:31:35,733 --> 00:31:39,637 Some JCOC participant list thrown violently into a box. 516 00:31:39,737 --> 00:31:42,374 -Linda. -This is chilling. 517 00:31:42,507 --> 00:31:46,078 This is veiled hostility from my colleagues, 518 00:31:46,211 --> 00:31:47,412 simply because I'm a cooperating witness 519 00:31:47,545 --> 00:31:48,981 in a federal investigation. 520 00:31:49,081 --> 00:31:50,815 I'm sure it was just an honest mistake. 521 00:31:50,915 --> 00:31:53,485 -We are past that, Ken. -Listen. 522 00:31:53,551 --> 00:31:55,553 Just write down exactly what you need 523 00:31:55,653 --> 00:31:57,922 -and then we... -What I need 524 00:31:58,056 --> 00:32:01,259 is to come here like normal and do my work. 525 00:32:01,393 --> 00:32:03,595 And I do not doubt that you'll be able to do that soon, 526 00:32:03,728 --> 00:32:04,662 and that things will settle down, 527 00:32:04,762 --> 00:32:06,898 but DOD just opened this investigation 528 00:32:06,999 --> 00:32:08,233 -and until we... -What? 529 00:32:09,434 --> 00:32:10,602 What investigation? 530 00:32:12,104 --> 00:32:13,338 (clears throat softly) 531 00:32:14,606 --> 00:32:16,241 They'll be contacting you. 532 00:32:16,374 --> 00:32:17,742 When you were hired, 533 00:32:17,875 --> 00:32:22,080 you affirmed on your DD 398 that you had never been arrested. 534 00:32:22,214 --> 00:32:23,581 Now, The New Yorker has come out... 535 00:32:23,715 --> 00:32:25,083 It was a teen prank! 536 00:32:25,217 --> 00:32:27,285 -Linda... -On me! 537 00:32:29,287 --> 00:32:30,755 The charges were dropped. 538 00:32:30,888 --> 00:32:34,292 Linda, you cannot lie to the Department of Defense 539 00:32:34,426 --> 00:32:36,128 on a security clearance form. 540 00:32:36,261 --> 00:32:38,530 That is a serious crime. 541 00:32:39,597 --> 00:32:41,099 I see. 542 00:32:43,135 --> 00:32:44,436 I see now. 543 00:32:45,437 --> 00:32:46,604 You see what? 544 00:32:46,738 --> 00:32:49,441 They're really coming after me. 545 00:32:49,541 --> 00:32:51,609 Okay, well... 546 00:32:57,482 --> 00:32:59,717 (knocking on door) 547 00:33:06,991 --> 00:33:09,294 Good afternoon, ma'am. I'm Special Agent Irons 548 00:33:09,427 --> 00:33:11,129 with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. 549 00:33:11,296 --> 00:33:12,964 This is Special Agent Fallon. 550 00:33:13,065 --> 00:33:15,300 FALLON: Do you have a moment to speak with us? 551 00:33:19,971 --> 00:33:21,306 Thank you, ma'am. 552 00:33:21,406 --> 00:33:22,807 We're detailed with the Office 553 00:33:22,907 --> 00:33:24,809 of Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr. 554 00:33:24,909 --> 00:33:26,811 Perhaps you've seen Judge Starr on the news. 555 00:33:26,911 --> 00:33:29,514 Well, he's finishing up his investigation, 556 00:33:29,647 --> 00:33:31,483 preparing to make a report to Congress. 557 00:33:31,583 --> 00:33:33,485 We're just here following up on some threads. 558 00:33:33,651 --> 00:33:36,188 Ma'am, as you may know, the president and others 559 00:33:36,321 --> 00:33:38,690 are in legal peril because of false affidavits 560 00:33:38,823 --> 00:33:40,492 filed in the Paula Jones lawsuit. 561 00:33:40,658 --> 00:33:42,860 We're just dotting our i's, Ms. Broaddrick. You understand. 562 00:33:42,994 --> 00:33:46,331 FALLON: Now, here is your Jones affidavit. 563 00:33:46,498 --> 00:33:48,500 You swore this a few months back. 564 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,502 Here, you state that President Bill Clinton 565 00:33:50,668 --> 00:33:53,671 never made any unwanted sexual advances toward you. 566 00:33:53,771 --> 00:33:57,275 Ma'am, were you being truthful when you signed your name 567 00:33:57,342 --> 00:33:59,010 to this statement? 568 00:34:12,890 --> 00:34:14,226 -(door closes) -PAULA: I don't... 569 00:34:14,359 --> 00:34:15,860 I don't get it. 570 00:34:17,195 --> 00:34:19,131 Okay. Thank you. Bye. 571 00:34:20,132 --> 00:34:22,234 (sighs) How was your audition? 572 00:34:22,367 --> 00:34:24,136 It sucked. 573 00:34:24,236 --> 00:34:28,373 -Who was that? -The lawyers. They said... 574 00:34:29,807 --> 00:34:31,576 ...the judge did a summary judgment. 575 00:34:31,709 --> 00:34:34,212 Mm. What is that? 576 00:34:34,312 --> 00:34:36,314 It's... it's bad. 577 00:34:36,381 --> 00:34:40,218 It means that she threw out the case. 578 00:34:41,319 --> 00:34:42,887 The Supreme Court said you had a case. 579 00:34:43,020 --> 00:34:46,090 But now the judge says I don't, so I... 580 00:34:46,224 --> 00:34:47,825 I guess it's over. 581 00:34:47,925 --> 00:34:51,329 What? What-what do we get? How much money we get? 582 00:34:51,429 --> 00:34:53,765 Well, that's what I'm saying. Um... 583 00:34:53,898 --> 00:34:56,268 It's nothing. We get nothing. 584 00:34:56,401 --> 00:34:57,902 -The fuck?! -I know. 585 00:34:58,035 --> 00:35:00,104 -I know, I need to call Susie. -Oh, yeah, great idea. 586 00:35:00,238 --> 00:35:02,274 Smart. She always makes things better. 587 00:35:02,407 --> 00:35:04,609 -Steve, don't. -No, no, we need to go back 588 00:35:04,742 --> 00:35:05,777 and we need to take Clinton's deal. 589 00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:07,078 I wanted that money. 590 00:35:07,212 --> 00:35:10,915 What? No, no, but you and Susie 591 00:35:11,015 --> 00:35:13,084 told me that I shouldn't take it, so... 592 00:35:13,218 --> 00:35:16,454 I don't wanna hear your fucking voice. 593 00:35:16,588 --> 00:35:18,590 Wait, but that is not fair because I-- gosh, 594 00:35:18,723 --> 00:35:21,593 I only ever started doing this 'cause you wanted me to. 595 00:35:21,693 --> 00:35:24,429 I-I did... I did all this for you. 596 00:35:24,562 --> 00:35:27,131 You sound pretty stupid right now with your face 597 00:35:27,265 --> 00:35:29,434 all broken from a nose job. 598 00:35:29,534 --> 00:35:32,103 Because I got a bad nose, 599 00:35:32,204 --> 00:35:34,306 which I didn't even know I had 600 00:35:34,439 --> 00:35:36,941 until you made me do this and be on TV 601 00:35:37,108 --> 00:35:40,445 and people laughed at me, but... 602 00:35:40,545 --> 00:35:43,114 but I did it, like I always do what you say. 603 00:35:43,248 --> 00:35:44,982 You think I liked moving to California, 604 00:35:45,116 --> 00:35:46,451 where I've never seen so many people 605 00:35:46,551 --> 00:35:48,119 who smile while they hate you 606 00:35:48,253 --> 00:35:49,954 and it makes my skin fucking crawl 607 00:35:50,087 --> 00:35:52,290 and it's sunny all day and it's... 608 00:35:52,457 --> 00:35:54,125 You think it'll be better if we move home, 609 00:35:54,226 --> 00:35:56,794 where everyone knows exactly who you are and what you did? 610 00:35:56,961 --> 00:35:58,630 What do you mean, "what I did"? 611 00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:03,801 What do you mean? 612 00:36:06,137 --> 00:36:09,641 Say it. Say it, Steve. 613 00:36:12,844 --> 00:36:14,646 You think I did it. 614 00:36:14,746 --> 00:36:17,649 You think I went up there and I gave him a blow job. 615 00:36:21,353 --> 00:36:23,821 Yeah, okay, okay. 616 00:36:25,189 --> 00:36:28,493 I can take this from Jay Leno 617 00:36:28,593 --> 00:36:33,030 and people laughing at me at Vons, but... 618 00:36:33,164 --> 00:36:34,999 from you? 619 00:36:35,099 --> 00:36:37,001 You're supposed to believe me! 620 00:36:37,101 --> 00:36:41,172 We are fighting to show people that he did me wrong! 621 00:36:41,339 --> 00:36:43,841 And... (laughing) 622 00:36:43,941 --> 00:36:45,843 And in reality, all-all this is-- 623 00:36:45,943 --> 00:36:48,346 all the press conferences and all the magazines 624 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,348 and-and the TV shows 625 00:36:50,482 --> 00:36:53,451 and the lawyers and more lawyers and more lawyers-- 626 00:36:53,551 --> 00:36:57,289 it's just me trying to get you to believe me! 627 00:36:57,355 --> 00:37:02,527 Which we both know you never did, so you know what? 628 00:37:02,660 --> 00:37:05,630 If you want to say I'm stupid, well, fuck you! 629 00:37:05,697 --> 00:37:08,300 But most of all, if I'm stupid on one thing, 630 00:37:08,366 --> 00:37:09,867 it was believing that you were any more 631 00:37:10,001 --> 00:37:13,305 than a chickenshit asshole who cared about me at all! 632 00:37:15,473 --> 00:37:17,141 (panting through nose) 633 00:37:25,483 --> 00:37:28,052 Oh, you think I'm gonna ask you to stay?! 634 00:37:31,255 --> 00:37:32,390 (door slams) 635 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,895 EMMICK: Okay, it's pretty simple. 636 00:37:37,995 --> 00:37:40,264 You listen to all of these tapes. After each one, 637 00:37:40,398 --> 00:37:42,600 you sign the tape, as well as sign 638 00:37:42,734 --> 00:37:43,935 and date those documents, 639 00:37:44,068 --> 00:37:47,238 confirming that the voices are you and Linda Tripp. 640 00:37:47,339 --> 00:37:48,740 I have to listen to all of these? 641 00:37:48,873 --> 00:37:50,575 They're all evidence. 642 00:37:50,675 --> 00:37:52,744 Karin here will sit in with you. 643 00:37:52,844 --> 00:37:54,946 I would, but I gotta get to the courthouse. 644 00:37:55,079 --> 00:37:57,349 What's happening at the courthouse? 645 00:38:01,586 --> 00:38:04,088 FOREWOMAN: Do you, Linda R. Tripp, swear to tell the truth, 646 00:38:04,221 --> 00:38:06,791 the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 647 00:38:06,924 --> 00:38:08,292 I do. 648 00:38:12,129 --> 00:38:13,931 You ready? 649 00:38:17,535 --> 00:38:19,937 -MONICA: Hi. -LINDA: Hi. 650 00:38:21,272 --> 00:38:22,440 How are you? 651 00:38:24,108 --> 00:38:27,445 EMMICK: Uh, now, with Mr. Wisenberg's assistance, 652 00:38:27,545 --> 00:38:29,280 I'd like to read to you 653 00:38:29,447 --> 00:38:32,784 what the grand jury has come to know as Tape 11. 654 00:38:34,552 --> 00:38:36,888 You have a, uh, transcript there. 655 00:38:36,954 --> 00:38:38,656 (clears throat) Okay. 656 00:38:40,625 --> 00:38:42,794 "Linda, I got the creep a tie. 657 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,962 It was 20 bucks at Marshalls." 658 00:38:45,129 --> 00:38:46,964 "Oh, good, who makes it?" 659 00:38:47,131 --> 00:38:49,166 "Calvin Klein. It's gorgeous, Linda." 660 00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:51,469 "Yeah, Marshalls generally, 661 00:38:51,603 --> 00:38:53,505 every now and then, you can hit." 662 00:38:53,638 --> 00:38:56,641 EMMICK: "It's really different from all the other ones I've given him. 663 00:38:56,774 --> 00:38:58,643 "I'm putting a note with it. 664 00:38:58,743 --> 00:39:00,077 I wrote such a funny card to him." 665 00:39:00,144 --> 00:39:01,479 WISENBERG: Linda Tripp laughs. 666 00:39:01,579 --> 00:39:02,814 -(Linda laughs) -MONICA: I said, "This tie will 667 00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:05,182 "look good with either a taupe or navy suit 668 00:39:05,316 --> 00:39:06,684 "and a white or a light blue shirt. 669 00:39:06,818 --> 00:39:09,421 -That is, if you like it." -LINDA: Mm-hmm. 670 00:39:09,487 --> 00:39:11,022 "And then do you know what I wrote? 671 00:39:11,155 --> 00:39:14,992 "I said, 'And just think, now you can pay homage to me 672 00:39:15,159 --> 00:39:18,262 "if you want by having a work week in which you 673 00:39:18,329 --> 00:39:20,097 wear one of my ties every day.'" 674 00:39:20,164 --> 00:39:21,433 Linda Tripp laughs. 675 00:39:21,499 --> 00:39:23,367 Ms. Lewinsky laughs. 676 00:39:23,501 --> 00:39:25,437 -(Monica laughs) -LINDA: 'Cause this is the fifth one, right? 677 00:39:25,503 --> 00:39:27,271 You have to give him one for the weekend days, too. 678 00:39:27,338 --> 00:39:30,675 "That's what I want. That's my fantasy. 679 00:39:30,775 --> 00:39:34,345 To have the creep wear one of my ties every day." 680 00:39:35,346 --> 00:39:39,216 Um, Ms. Tripp, who was the creep? 681 00:39:39,350 --> 00:39:40,852 (chuckles softly) 682 00:39:43,020 --> 00:39:45,457 The president of the United States. 683 00:39:45,523 --> 00:39:49,026 EMMICK: Was this typical of the sort of subject 684 00:39:49,126 --> 00:39:50,862 you and Monica Lewinsky would discuss? 685 00:39:50,995 --> 00:39:53,898 Yes, we almost never talked about anything 686 00:39:54,031 --> 00:39:56,300 aside from the president. (scoffs) 687 00:39:56,367 --> 00:39:58,870 She shared a lot of intimate details with you, did she not? 688 00:40:01,038 --> 00:40:02,306 She did. 689 00:40:02,373 --> 00:40:03,575 MONICA (crying): I was upset before, 690 00:40:03,708 --> 00:40:05,543 but not like I am now. 691 00:40:05,643 --> 00:40:07,044 LINDA: Oh, man. 692 00:40:07,144 --> 00:40:08,980 MONICA: It's too much for one person. 693 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,483 LINDA: Oh, it is too much for one person. 694 00:40:11,583 --> 00:40:12,550 Yes, it is. 695 00:40:12,684 --> 00:40:15,252 EMMICK: Moving into November 1997. 696 00:40:15,386 --> 00:40:19,423 Is it fair to say that Ms. Lewinsky was increasingly 697 00:40:19,557 --> 00:40:21,759 distraught on her calls with you? 698 00:40:21,893 --> 00:40:25,597 Yes, she was obsessed with the president's lack of contact. 699 00:40:25,730 --> 00:40:29,433 And what typically would happen when she tried to make contact? 700 00:40:29,567 --> 00:40:32,504 She would call Betty Currie and then call me 701 00:40:32,604 --> 00:40:33,938 to tell me she called Betty. 702 00:40:34,071 --> 00:40:35,406 And then, if Betty hadn't gotten back to her 703 00:40:35,507 --> 00:40:37,509 within an hour, she would get angry 704 00:40:37,609 --> 00:40:40,011 and call Betty again, then call me again. 705 00:40:40,111 --> 00:40:43,447 Crescendoing to some sort of nuclear outburst. 706 00:40:43,581 --> 00:40:45,282 Okay, now I'd like to move... 707 00:40:45,416 --> 00:40:48,019 Sorry, can I ask a question? 708 00:40:51,923 --> 00:40:54,258 Did you want Monica to stop calling you? 709 00:40:54,391 --> 00:40:56,460 Yes. 710 00:40:56,594 --> 00:41:00,464 Her behavior became volatile. Very erratic. 711 00:41:00,598 --> 00:41:04,435 So why did you not just say, "Please stop calling me"? 712 00:41:04,536 --> 00:41:07,271 (scoffs) That's what my kid said. 713 00:41:07,404 --> 00:41:08,272 So why didn't you? 714 00:41:08,439 --> 00:41:11,442 Well, at a, at a certain point, 715 00:41:11,543 --> 00:41:12,877 you can't unring a bell. 716 00:41:12,944 --> 00:41:15,446 You talk like this was a grave situation 717 00:41:15,547 --> 00:41:18,215 and harmful for Monica, right? 718 00:41:18,282 --> 00:41:20,785 -Yes, very. -But earlier 719 00:41:20,952 --> 00:41:22,620 we heard you encouraging her 720 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:24,889 to buy him a tie for each day of the week. 721 00:41:24,956 --> 00:41:27,559 Well, that... 722 00:41:27,625 --> 00:41:28,960 I was joking. 723 00:41:29,126 --> 00:41:32,229 And when Monica said, "I got the creep a tie. 724 00:41:32,296 --> 00:41:34,632 It was 20 bucks at Marshalls," 725 00:41:34,799 --> 00:41:36,734 you replied, "Oh, good." 726 00:41:36,801 --> 00:41:38,570 Well, I was being... 727 00:41:39,737 --> 00:41:41,338 That was more of a pro-Marshalls. 728 00:41:41,472 --> 00:41:45,409 So, was this a serious situation or was this a joking matter? 729 00:41:45,476 --> 00:41:47,311 That's one moment out of context. 730 00:41:47,478 --> 00:41:49,814 Or were you just trying to keep her talking? 731 00:41:49,914 --> 00:41:52,349 Because by then you were taping. 732 00:41:53,685 --> 00:41:55,152 I prefer to call it documenting. 733 00:41:55,252 --> 00:41:56,320 MALE JUROR: Why did you tape her? 734 00:41:56,487 --> 00:41:58,189 We'll get to that in just a little bit. 735 00:41:58,322 --> 00:42:00,658 I documented our phone calls because I knew 736 00:42:00,758 --> 00:42:03,027 -I needed evidence. -Evidence for what? 737 00:42:04,495 --> 00:42:06,931 Well, for-- so when I came forward... 738 00:42:06,998 --> 00:42:08,933 -But it was a private matter. -I don't think you comprehend... 739 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,668 It was between Monica and the president. 740 00:42:10,835 --> 00:42:11,836 No one needed to know. 741 00:42:11,936 --> 00:42:14,505 Actually, this was a very young staffer 742 00:42:14,606 --> 00:42:17,008 in a workplace with the most senior official 743 00:42:17,108 --> 00:42:18,843 in that workplace making choices 744 00:42:18,943 --> 00:42:21,679 that were causing her severe distress. 745 00:42:21,846 --> 00:42:24,015 She told me on more than one occasion 746 00:42:24,148 --> 00:42:25,449 she wanted to kill herself. 747 00:42:25,549 --> 00:42:29,353 And still, the president of the United States 748 00:42:29,453 --> 00:42:31,288 used her to meet his needs. 749 00:42:31,355 --> 00:42:35,459 He had total control. His behavior was unconscionable. 750 00:42:38,462 --> 00:42:40,531 It was an abuse of power. 751 00:42:40,665 --> 00:42:42,700 -Mrs. Tripp... -I had to end it. 752 00:42:42,834 --> 00:42:44,468 I had to end it. 753 00:42:49,907 --> 00:42:53,645 Mrs. Tripp, when you chose to... 754 00:42:53,745 --> 00:42:57,048 begin documenting Monica, 755 00:42:57,181 --> 00:43:00,251 you were under enormous stress, correct? 756 00:43:00,384 --> 00:43:02,987 I was terrified. 757 00:43:03,087 --> 00:43:06,490 I knew if I came forward with no evidence, 758 00:43:06,557 --> 00:43:08,092 they would destroy me. 759 00:43:08,225 --> 00:43:11,062 When you say "they," who are you referring to? 760 00:43:11,195 --> 00:43:13,931 (scoffs) Bill Clinton. 761 00:43:14,065 --> 00:43:16,267 And, uh, Hillary Rodham Clinton. 762 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,235 -Oh, man. -(others groan) 763 00:43:20,504 --> 00:43:23,174 The president's lawyer had already made 764 00:43:23,274 --> 00:43:25,609 a defamatory statement about me in Newsweek. 765 00:43:25,743 --> 00:43:27,745 I was sure I was going to be subpoenaed 766 00:43:27,879 --> 00:43:29,280 in the Paula Jones case. 767 00:43:29,413 --> 00:43:31,415 I felt, if I told the truth under oath, 768 00:43:31,515 --> 00:43:33,584 I would lose my job. 769 00:43:33,718 --> 00:43:35,252 Or worse. 770 00:43:35,352 --> 00:43:38,455 You thought if you told the truth in the Paula Jones case... 771 00:43:38,589 --> 00:43:40,091 I was afraid I wouldn't even get the chance. 772 00:43:40,191 --> 00:43:42,960 Are you-- are you saying you thought you would be killed? 773 00:43:43,094 --> 00:43:44,929 Yes. 774 00:43:45,062 --> 00:43:47,298 -Why? -I have what I consider 775 00:43:47,431 --> 00:43:49,100 well-founded fears 776 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,202 of what this administration is capable of. 777 00:43:51,268 --> 00:43:53,037 Can you give an example? 778 00:43:53,104 --> 00:43:55,940 I have, uh, reason to believe 779 00:43:56,073 --> 00:43:58,142 that the Vince Foster tragedy was not 780 00:43:58,275 --> 00:44:01,278 depicted accurately by members of the administration. 781 00:44:01,412 --> 00:44:04,615 Are you-- are you saying he didn't commit suicide? 782 00:44:04,782 --> 00:44:07,284 (chuckles) We will never know. 783 00:44:07,451 --> 00:44:09,453 Mrs. Tripp, do you have information 784 00:44:09,586 --> 00:44:11,655 about the White House and the death of Vince Foster? 785 00:44:11,789 --> 00:44:14,792 I'll just say this. 786 00:44:14,959 --> 00:44:17,795 The day after that tragedy, 787 00:44:17,929 --> 00:44:21,465 the behavior I saw in the West Wing frightened me. 788 00:44:21,632 --> 00:44:24,501 There was a flurry of activity, boxes 789 00:44:24,635 --> 00:44:26,470 and secrecy behind closed doors. 790 00:44:26,603 --> 00:44:29,140 I was concerned, and I was alarmed. 791 00:44:29,273 --> 00:44:31,976 Because people were meeting behind closed doors? 792 00:44:32,076 --> 00:44:36,147 (scoffs) It was far more ominous than that. 793 00:44:36,247 --> 00:44:38,349 (juror scoffs) 794 00:44:39,350 --> 00:44:42,253 I am telling you, under oath today, 795 00:44:42,319 --> 00:44:44,655 that I felt threatened. 796 00:44:44,822 --> 00:44:48,993 And I was angry. And I resented it. 797 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,996 -And still do. -JUROR: I have a question. 798 00:44:52,163 --> 00:44:54,331 Did you ever think about what would happen 799 00:44:54,498 --> 00:44:56,768 to Monica when all this came out? 800 00:44:56,834 --> 00:44:59,336 * 801 00:44:59,503 --> 00:45:02,339 LINDA: All right, call me back, you nut. 802 00:45:02,439 --> 00:45:05,676 -MONICA: Ugh. I will, I will. -Bye. 803 00:45:14,618 --> 00:45:15,853 -Done. -Your attorney 804 00:45:15,987 --> 00:45:17,188 has a car waiting for you out back. 805 00:45:17,288 --> 00:45:18,355 If you want, I can... 806 00:45:18,489 --> 00:45:20,391 I know the way. 807 00:45:20,524 --> 00:45:23,895 (door opens, closes) 808 00:45:24,962 --> 00:45:28,532 I thought, uh, if this became public, 809 00:45:28,665 --> 00:45:31,368 Monica would not be in any sort of danger. 810 00:45:31,502 --> 00:45:33,871 But you said you felt dangers, both personal 811 00:45:33,971 --> 00:45:35,873 and professional, could befall you. 812 00:45:35,973 --> 00:45:38,709 What crossed your mind that would befall Monica? 813 00:45:40,244 --> 00:45:42,379 Uh, what-what would befall her? 814 00:45:42,479 --> 00:45:44,715 JUROR: Did you have any fears for her? 815 00:45:44,849 --> 00:45:46,717 All these details in the publi. 816 00:45:46,851 --> 00:45:49,553 LINDA: She was... I-I think I said this. 817 00:45:49,686 --> 00:45:51,488 Uh, she was suicidal. 818 00:45:51,555 --> 00:45:53,057 JUROR 2: You're not answering her question. 819 00:45:53,157 --> 00:45:58,429 What Monica was going through was extremely unhealthy. 820 00:45:58,562 --> 00:46:00,597 But you didn't think it would bring her harm? 821 00:46:02,099 --> 00:46:04,101 Well, not compared to... 822 00:46:06,770 --> 00:46:08,739 -No. -Why not? 823 00:46:10,574 --> 00:46:11,675 Uh, pardon? 824 00:46:11,775 --> 00:46:14,511 Why would you not think about her? 825 00:46:14,611 --> 00:46:16,613 * 826 00:46:17,915 --> 00:46:22,119 I was thinking that she was in a tremendously bad situation. 827 00:46:22,253 --> 00:46:23,955 (juror scoffs) 828 00:46:24,088 --> 00:46:27,758 And do you feel now she's better off because of what you did? 829 00:46:27,892 --> 00:46:30,294 Do you feel her life is better now? 830 00:46:33,097 --> 00:46:34,431 (breath trembles) 831 00:46:39,636 --> 00:46:42,039 -How'd it go? -Ready, Linda? 832 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,942 You sure? 833 00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:47,044 You don't have to do this right now. 834 00:47:03,127 --> 00:47:04,461 ZACCAGNINI: We understand 835 00:47:04,561 --> 00:47:07,064 there is some interest in hearing from Ms. Tripp. 836 00:47:07,131 --> 00:47:09,666 She will not be taking any questions today. 837 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,971 She has, however, agreed to make some brief remarks. 838 00:47:14,071 --> 00:47:16,507 (cameras clicking) 839 00:47:17,975 --> 00:47:21,178 Good afternoon. I'm not a public speaker. 840 00:47:21,312 --> 00:47:23,180 I'm going to have to refer to my notes. 841 00:47:23,314 --> 00:47:24,315 Please bear with me. 842 00:47:29,486 --> 00:47:32,656 I understand that there's been a great deal of speculation 843 00:47:32,756 --> 00:47:36,160 about just who I am and how I got here. 844 00:47:36,260 --> 00:47:38,662 Well, the answer is simple. 845 00:47:38,762 --> 00:47:41,999 I'm you. I'm just like you. 846 00:47:43,167 --> 00:47:46,503 I'm an average American who found herself in a situation 847 00:47:46,603 --> 00:47:48,839 not of her own making. 848 00:47:48,940 --> 00:47:51,842 Because I am just like you, I ask you to imagine how you 849 00:47:51,943 --> 00:47:54,678 would feel if someone you thought was a friend 850 00:47:54,778 --> 00:47:56,613 urged you to commit a felony. 851 00:47:58,015 --> 00:48:00,784 Imagine how you would feel if your boss's attorney 852 00:48:00,884 --> 00:48:03,687 called you a liar in front of the whole country. 853 00:48:04,888 --> 00:48:06,390 And imagine if that boss 854 00:48:06,523 --> 00:48:08,960 was the president of the United States. 855 00:48:12,029 --> 00:48:15,799 Imagine how you would feel if your employer demoted you 856 00:48:15,899 --> 00:48:19,570 and cast you aside, for daring to tell the truth. 857 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,810 Imagine how it would feel to see the pain in your children's eyes 858 00:48:26,877 --> 00:48:29,413 when they hear a seemingly endless barrage 859 00:48:29,546 --> 00:48:31,748 of lies about their mother. 860 00:48:31,882 --> 00:48:35,752 A mother who is not going out to defend herself. 861 00:48:41,592 --> 00:48:44,428 I've been vilified for taking the path of truth. 862 00:48:45,596 --> 00:48:47,598 I've been maligned by people who have chosen 863 00:48:47,731 --> 00:48:49,666 not to tell the truth, 864 00:48:49,766 --> 00:48:53,070 and who know they are not telling the truth. 865 00:48:53,204 --> 00:48:55,006 To cast me in the role of the villain, 866 00:48:55,106 --> 00:48:57,774 they have enlisted legions of paid prevaricators. 867 00:48:57,908 --> 00:48:59,776 Not surprisingly, many from the entertainment industry 868 00:48:59,910 --> 00:49:02,779 have chosen to ridicule me as well. 869 00:49:03,947 --> 00:49:06,617 Going so far as to even make fun of my appearance 870 00:49:06,750 --> 00:49:10,287 in a manner so mean and so cruel that I pray none of you 871 00:49:10,421 --> 00:49:11,855 is ever subjected to it. 872 00:49:13,924 --> 00:49:15,626 Despite all of that, 873 00:49:15,759 --> 00:49:18,795 I bear no malice towards anyone in this case. 874 00:49:27,771 --> 00:49:29,606 I believe in our country. 875 00:49:30,941 --> 00:49:34,111 As I said, I am no different than any of you. 876 00:49:34,245 --> 00:49:38,282 I believe you have the right to tell the truth under oath 877 00:49:38,382 --> 00:49:40,951 without fear of retribution or worse. 878 00:49:43,054 --> 00:49:46,457 (sighs) I hope that when all the facts are revealed, 879 00:49:46,557 --> 00:49:48,125 you'll understand that it is a right 880 00:49:48,292 --> 00:49:50,561 all of us should be fighting for. 881 00:49:53,297 --> 00:49:54,631 Thank you. 882 00:49:56,900 --> 00:49:58,635 Why did you betray Monica Lewinsky? 883 00:49:59,803 --> 00:50:00,837 We're not taking any questions. 884 00:50:00,971 --> 00:50:03,074 Linda, do you regret taping Monica? 885 00:50:03,140 --> 00:50:04,975 REPROTER: Isn't it true you manipulated her? 886 00:50:05,142 --> 00:50:07,578 REPORTER 2: Did you do all this for a book deal? 887 00:50:18,155 --> 00:50:19,523 NEWSMAN: The atmosphere feels very different 888 00:50:19,656 --> 00:50:20,824 -among the party now. -NEWSWOMAN: Look, I've read 889 00:50:20,924 --> 00:50:22,159 the deposition and it's very clear... 890 00:50:22,259 --> 00:50:23,527 NEWSMAN 2: Members of President Clinton's 891 00:50:23,660 --> 00:50:24,828 own party are now wavering in their support, 892 00:50:24,928 --> 00:50:25,829 including my guest, 893 00:50:25,996 --> 00:50:27,531 Congressman Jim Moran. 894 00:50:27,664 --> 00:50:29,833 MORAN: The fact is he lied to the American people. 895 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,336 That is undoubtedly going to 896 00:50:32,503 --> 00:50:34,938 necessitate impeachment proceedings. 897 00:50:49,186 --> 00:50:53,190 Andrew Johnson-- worst leader this country ever had. 898 00:50:53,290 --> 00:50:56,026 Racist to his core, drunk as hell 899 00:50:56,127 --> 00:50:58,529 the day he took over for Lincoln. 900 00:50:59,963 --> 00:51:03,700 1868 Congress finally impeached his ass. 901 00:51:05,035 --> 00:51:07,871 Only president that's happened to, only one. 902 00:51:09,473 --> 00:51:10,874 Till now. 903 00:51:12,643 --> 00:51:14,878 I hate it when you're like this. 904 00:51:15,011 --> 00:51:18,149 We have not lost anything, not yet. 905 00:51:23,220 --> 00:51:24,888 I'll call Jim Moran. 906 00:51:25,989 --> 00:51:27,658 What'll you say? 907 00:51:27,724 --> 00:51:31,995 I will say that if he thinks he is fighting for me, 908 00:51:32,095 --> 00:51:35,065 then he needs to fight on my side. 909 00:51:35,166 --> 00:51:37,434 And the way I see it, 910 00:51:37,568 --> 00:51:40,237 there are forces that have been trying to take my husband 911 00:51:40,371 --> 00:51:43,106 down his whole life and I don't want them to win. 912 00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:44,941 And I won't let them. 913 00:51:46,177 --> 00:51:48,445 And yes, the right's got the votes, 914 00:51:48,579 --> 00:51:50,181 and I'm sure they will do their worst. 915 00:51:50,281 --> 00:51:51,615 But to state the obvious, 916 00:51:51,748 --> 00:51:53,617 you are not Andrew fucking Johnson. 917 00:51:53,750 --> 00:51:57,421 And the last billion times the GOP has tried to destroy us, 918 00:51:57,554 --> 00:51:59,923 we have wiped the floor with them. 919 00:52:00,056 --> 00:52:01,592 Have you seen the polls? 920 00:52:01,692 --> 00:52:03,594 Every step they take towards this 921 00:52:03,727 --> 00:52:07,698 moronic idea, your approval jumps a point. 922 00:52:07,798 --> 00:52:09,466 Nobody's looking at the polls. 923 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,802 My own party isn't looking at the polls. 924 00:52:11,935 --> 00:52:14,605 They just need permission to forgive you. 925 00:52:14,705 --> 00:52:17,441 Which is something that you can't give them. 926 00:52:20,777 --> 00:52:22,279 But I can. 927 00:52:24,948 --> 00:52:27,117 This is all the FBI interviews? 928 00:52:27,218 --> 00:52:28,985 We're waiting on a few more. 929 00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:30,487 We have a problem. 930 00:52:30,621 --> 00:52:32,122 We need to put Monica back under oath. 931 00:52:32,289 --> 00:52:34,791 -Why? -Our perjury charge rests on the president 932 00:52:34,958 --> 00:52:37,127 claiming that technically he didn't have sex with her because 933 00:52:37,228 --> 00:52:38,895 he never touched her with intent to arouse. 934 00:52:38,962 --> 00:52:41,632 He's lying, but here's hours and hours 935 00:52:41,732 --> 00:52:43,634 of Monica's testimony, and she never once 936 00:52:43,767 --> 00:52:45,236 speaks about all the times 937 00:52:45,302 --> 00:52:47,137 that he touched her with intent to arouse. 938 00:52:47,238 --> 00:52:48,972 It was implied on our chart. 939 00:52:49,139 --> 00:52:52,309 That's weak shit. We need her under oath, in detail, 940 00:52:52,443 --> 00:52:54,245 on all the sex, proving him wrong. 941 00:52:54,311 --> 00:52:55,979 Okay, let's bring her back in. 942 00:52:56,079 --> 00:52:59,983 Gosh, who's going to handle asking her about that? 943 00:53:01,318 --> 00:53:04,488 We are on the record. Monica, you're still under oath. 944 00:53:05,522 --> 00:53:08,492 First, I want to start by asking you a general question. 945 00:53:08,659 --> 00:53:10,527 Did your relationship with President Clinton 946 00:53:10,661 --> 00:53:12,263 start with sex and then evolve into 947 00:53:12,329 --> 00:53:13,997 a friendship or the other way around? 948 00:53:15,666 --> 00:53:18,001 It started with a physical attraction 949 00:53:18,101 --> 00:53:20,671 which led to a sexual relationship. 950 00:53:20,771 --> 00:53:22,839 And then the emotional and... 951 00:53:22,939 --> 00:53:25,442 friendship aspects of that relationship developed 952 00:53:25,509 --> 00:53:28,679 after the beginning of the sexual relationship. 953 00:53:29,846 --> 00:53:31,848 Why don't we start with the first incident 954 00:53:32,015 --> 00:53:34,117 of physical intimacy: November 15, 1995, 955 00:53:34,184 --> 00:53:36,186 which you've already testified some about. 956 00:53:36,287 --> 00:53:38,355 -Okay. -Can you tell me 957 00:53:38,489 --> 00:53:40,123 how the physical intimacy between you two 958 00:53:40,223 --> 00:53:41,458 began that night? 959 00:53:44,461 --> 00:53:45,862 Um... 960 00:53:47,130 --> 00:53:49,966 Well, we were, uh... 961 00:53:50,033 --> 00:53:52,703 in an office alone. 962 00:53:52,803 --> 00:53:54,871 Kissing, you know? 963 00:53:56,373 --> 00:53:59,376 And then what happened after the kissing started? 964 00:54:01,645 --> 00:54:07,884 Um, he started untucking my shirt. 965 00:54:07,984 --> 00:54:09,152 And then what? 966 00:54:12,556 --> 00:54:15,058 I'm sorry. For legal reasons, 967 00:54:15,191 --> 00:54:18,228 I need to get specifically what happened. 968 00:54:18,362 --> 00:54:19,930 Each physical interaction. 969 00:54:21,498 --> 00:54:22,899 Okay. 970 00:54:23,900 --> 00:54:26,236 (sighs) Um... 971 00:54:26,370 --> 00:54:32,075 So, he took off my sweater and, you know... 972 00:54:32,208 --> 00:54:34,177 Did he touch your breasts? 973 00:54:35,612 --> 00:54:38,515 -Yes. -With your bra on or off? 974 00:54:42,085 --> 00:54:44,421 (sighs) I... 975 00:54:44,521 --> 00:54:48,792 I-I... (sighs) I don't remember if I unhooked my bra 976 00:54:48,925 --> 00:54:51,962 or if he, um... 977 00:54:55,098 --> 00:54:57,968 ...lifted my... 978 00:54:58,101 --> 00:55:00,637 bra up over-- This is embarrassing. 979 00:55:00,771 --> 00:55:02,105 I know. 980 00:55:02,205 --> 00:55:03,607 I'm sorry. 981 00:55:09,112 --> 00:55:10,547 But he... 982 00:55:11,782 --> 00:55:14,485 He lifted the bra over your breasts. 983 00:55:14,618 --> 00:55:17,988 Um... sometimes... 984 00:55:21,625 --> 00:55:27,964 ...he would lift my-my breasts out of my bra. God. 985 00:55:28,131 --> 00:55:30,467 Did he touch your breasts with his hands? 986 00:55:30,601 --> 00:55:31,635 Yes. 987 00:55:31,768 --> 00:55:33,637 Did he touch your breasts with his mouth? 988 00:55:34,971 --> 00:55:37,140 -Yes. -Did he touch your genital area? 989 00:55:41,745 --> 00:55:45,148 Uh, I-I know this is... 990 00:55:45,248 --> 00:55:47,651 It's just, um, thinking about other people reading this... 991 00:55:47,751 --> 00:55:50,654 I understand, but I've been instructed 992 00:55:50,821 --> 00:55:52,155 to question you on these details. 993 00:55:52,255 --> 00:55:53,590 -And I have to answer? -Pursuant to the agreement 994 00:55:53,657 --> 00:55:55,592 you have with this office, yes. 995 00:55:55,659 --> 00:55:57,160 Do you understand? 996 00:55:58,495 --> 00:56:00,330 -Yes. -Okay. 997 00:56:01,832 --> 00:56:04,034 Did he touch your genitals on this date? 998 00:56:06,102 --> 00:56:07,170 Yes. 999 00:56:07,270 --> 00:56:09,840 Can you describe exactly how that happened? 1000 00:56:12,676 --> 00:56:14,044 He, um... 1001 00:56:23,353 --> 00:56:25,456 The president... 1002 00:56:25,522 --> 00:56:29,059 uh, got a call, so we moved into a back office. 1003 00:56:31,628 --> 00:56:33,464 While he was on the phone... 1004 00:56:36,533 --> 00:56:39,970 ...he put his hand, uh, down my pants and he... 1005 00:56:40,036 --> 00:56:42,072 stimulated that area. 1006 00:56:42,205 --> 00:56:44,374 Directly on your skin or through underwear? 1007 00:56:46,977 --> 00:56:50,046 It was, um, touching... 1008 00:56:50,146 --> 00:56:53,216 through my underwear at first and then he 1009 00:56:53,349 --> 00:56:55,652 placed his hand under my underwear. 1010 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,888 And did he bring you to orgasm? 1011 00:57:01,725 --> 00:57:03,894 -(quietly): Yes. -Okay. 1012 00:57:05,596 --> 00:57:08,599 On this night, did you perform oral sex on the president? 1013 00:57:08,732 --> 00:57:10,400 Yes. 1014 00:57:12,268 --> 00:57:13,604 Who initiated that? 1015 00:57:13,737 --> 00:57:15,405 I did. 1016 00:57:16,607 --> 00:57:19,943 Did the president say anything to you during this? 1017 00:57:21,578 --> 00:57:22,913 No. 1018 00:57:25,749 --> 00:57:27,117 He was on the phone. 1019 00:57:30,754 --> 00:57:32,623 Would you like a break? 1020 00:57:41,532 --> 00:57:44,367 IMMERGUT: Moving to March 31, 1996, 1021 00:57:44,434 --> 00:57:46,436 did the president stimulate your genitals? 1022 00:57:46,537 --> 00:57:47,938 Yes. 1023 00:57:50,106 --> 00:57:52,375 Was that through clothing? 1024 00:57:54,210 --> 00:57:55,946 Not through clothing. 1025 00:57:56,079 --> 00:57:59,382 And he stimulated your genitals with his hands? 1026 00:57:59,449 --> 00:58:02,786 Yes. And... 1027 00:58:05,388 --> 00:58:06,790 And? 1028 00:58:08,959 --> 00:58:11,327 He used, um... 1029 00:58:13,296 --> 00:58:15,131 He had a cigar. 1030 00:58:18,969 --> 00:58:22,305 I'm sorry, could you speak just a little louder for the tape? 1031 00:58:22,405 --> 00:58:23,807 Okay, sorry. 1032 00:58:23,907 --> 00:58:24,975 He had a cigar. 1033 00:58:25,075 --> 00:58:27,310 Did he insert the cigar into your vagina? 1034 00:58:30,747 --> 00:58:32,649 I'm sorry, I'm gonna need you to answer verbally. 1035 00:58:32,749 --> 00:58:33,817 Yes. 1036 00:58:35,986 --> 00:58:38,154 Whose idea, um...? 1037 00:58:39,756 --> 00:58:41,157 How did that...? 1038 00:58:42,492 --> 00:58:46,162 Um, we were talking, um, 1039 00:58:46,262 --> 00:58:49,666 in the Oval Office... 1040 00:58:49,766 --> 00:58:53,336 one day and he was, 1041 00:58:53,503 --> 00:58:56,172 uh, he-he was chewing on a... 1042 00:58:56,339 --> 00:59:00,844 cigar and he looked at it in a sort of... 1043 00:59:03,046 --> 00:59:06,783 ...naughty way and I said, 1044 00:59:06,850 --> 00:59:11,688 "We can do that sometime." So we did. 1045 00:59:12,789 --> 00:59:15,225 Did you understand it to be arousing? 1046 00:59:16,860 --> 00:59:18,895 -Yes. -Then what happened? 1047 00:59:29,372 --> 00:59:31,074 (quietly): Um... 1048 00:59:32,308 --> 00:59:36,713 He put it in his mouth. He said it tasted good. 1049 00:59:40,216 --> 00:59:42,653 Okay, I have just one last question. 1050 00:59:42,753 --> 00:59:44,387 It goes to your motivation. 1051 00:59:46,056 --> 00:59:49,225 Do you for any reason want to hurt the president? 1052 00:59:51,227 --> 00:59:53,764 No, that's the last thing I want. 1053 00:59:53,897 --> 00:59:55,732 All right. 1054 00:59:55,866 --> 00:59:59,402 Thank you. You did really well, Monica. 1055 01:00:00,937 --> 01:00:03,339 That's all I have. I have to run this in. 1056 01:00:03,439 --> 01:00:06,076 Pam can help you see yourself out. 1057 01:00:07,410 --> 01:00:09,579 Is it a boy or a girl? 1058 01:00:12,115 --> 01:00:15,919 Uh... It's a boy. 1059 01:00:16,019 --> 01:00:17,921 Mazel tov. 1060 01:00:19,355 --> 01:00:21,457 For your sake, I hope this is goodbye. 1061 01:00:21,591 --> 01:00:23,593 * 1062 01:00:37,607 --> 01:00:42,112 I want the full report ready for Congress by Labor Day. 1063 01:00:42,245 --> 01:00:44,047 Judge, that's two weeks from now. 1064 01:00:44,114 --> 01:00:45,949 Any closer to the election and it will 1065 01:00:46,116 --> 01:00:48,118 appear like a political hit on the Democrats. 1066 01:00:48,218 --> 01:00:50,620 Brett, please make sure everyone has their drafts in 1067 01:00:50,721 --> 01:00:51,955 by September 4th. 1068 01:00:52,122 --> 01:00:55,325 -Got it. -Our FBI guys just sent this 302. 1069 01:00:55,458 --> 01:00:57,160 It's a new interview with Jane Doe 5. 1070 01:00:57,293 --> 01:00:59,629 Real name Juanita Broaddrick. She's changing her statement. 1071 01:00:59,796 --> 01:01:02,298 -What she's saying? -That Bill Clinton raped her. 1072 01:01:02,465 --> 01:01:05,301 This is that same woman who, back in January, 1073 01:01:05,401 --> 01:01:07,470 signed an affidavit saying nothing ever happened. 1074 01:01:07,637 --> 01:01:08,805 Right. Now she says that was a lie. 1075 01:01:08,972 --> 01:01:11,174 Why is she lying? Was she coerced by the Clintons? 1076 01:01:11,307 --> 01:01:13,977 -No. -Was she offered something? 1077 01:01:14,077 --> 01:01:16,479 No, no quid pro quo. She's saying she lied at first 1078 01:01:16,646 --> 01:01:18,148 because she didn't want to be involved. 1079 01:01:18,248 --> 01:01:20,817 She's had no contact with Clinton people since the '80s. 1080 01:01:20,917 --> 01:01:21,985 Well, if he didn't pressure her, 1081 01:01:22,085 --> 01:01:23,486 then it doesn't go to his criminality. 1082 01:01:23,586 --> 01:01:26,156 Except for the raping. 1083 01:01:26,256 --> 01:01:27,657 H-He raped her. 1084 01:01:27,824 --> 01:01:30,493 We can't be cluttering the report with all 1085 01:01:30,593 --> 01:01:33,163 the various sexual experiences from his past. 1086 01:01:33,329 --> 01:01:35,365 Yeah, there's only so much ink in the world, Sol. 1087 01:01:35,498 --> 01:01:40,670 I just... Judge, read the 302, read what he did. 1088 01:01:43,940 --> 01:01:46,676 Perjury and obstruction of justice. 1089 01:01:46,843 --> 01:01:48,845 Those are our grounds for impeachment, 1090 01:01:49,012 --> 01:01:51,014 not some lady who changes her mind 1091 01:01:51,181 --> 01:01:52,348 about what happened one night. 1092 01:01:52,515 --> 01:01:54,851 But... (stammers, sighs) 1093 01:01:57,287 --> 01:02:00,857 Okay. So, should we not put her in the report at all? 1094 01:02:00,957 --> 01:02:03,026 It can be an appendix if you want. 1095 01:02:03,126 --> 01:02:04,795 Put her in a footnote. 1096 01:02:06,562 --> 01:02:07,697 Okay. 1097 01:02:12,803 --> 01:02:14,805 * 1098 01:03:59,309 --> 01:04:02,145 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH