>>> THIS IS CLEARLY DANGEROUS.
>> THE TALIBAN REALLY KNOW THIS AREA.
>> TODAY, THE TALIBAN STRONGER THAN EVER.
>> THIS IS THE SORT OF THING THE PEACE DEAL IS SUPPOSED TO PUT AN
END TO. [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
>> WAS THAT A MESSAGE OR A THREAT?
[ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
>> DO YOU THINK AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM WITH BLACK FOLKS OWNING
GUNS?
>> YOU ASKED THE MILLION-DOLLAR QUESTION.
>> PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SOCIALIZE DOLLARS TO THINK THAT WHEN I SEE
A BLACK MAN WITH A WEAPON, THEN IT INSTANTLY MUST BE NEGATIVE.
BUT WHEN I SEE A WHITE PERSON WITH A WEAPON, THEY MUST BE
DOING SOMETHING PATRIOTIC.
>> WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG. WE'RE JUST BLACK.
THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
>> WE WANT JUSTICE!
[ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
>> IT'S BEEN MORE THAN A YEAR SINCE THE UNITED STATES SIGNED A
PEACE DEAL WITH THE TALIBAN TO END AMERICA'S LONGEST WAR.
BUT TODAY, THERE'S STILL NO PEACE IN AFGHANISTAN.
[ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
>> AS PART OF THE HISTORIC AGREEMENT, THE TALIBAN AGREE TO
STOP ATTACKS ON AMERICAN AND INTERNATIONAL FORCES.
SO FAR, THAT'S HELD, BUT THE TALIBAN NOW CONTROLS OR CONTESTS
MORE THAN HALF THE COUNTRY AND THEIR ATTACKS OF GOVERNMENT
FORCES HAVE ESCALATED. [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
IMPTD IMP
IMPROVISED EXPLOSIVE DEVICES, OR I.E.D.s ARE THE TALIBAN'S
WEAPONS OF PREFERENCE. [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
>> UNDER THE 20 20 GREAT, THE U.S. GOT WHAT THEY LONG SOUGHT.
THE TALIBAN AGREED TO LEAF THE COUNTRY BY MAY OF THIS YEAR.
>> TODAY, WE HAVE TAKEN A DECISIVE STEP TOWARDS PEACE,
REAL PEACE IN AFGHANISTAN.
>> IN EXCHANGE, THE TALIBAN WANT TO REDUCE FORCES AGAINST TALIBAN
FORCES, BEGIN ASSOCIATE, THE AFGHAN GOVERNMENT ON A POWER
SHARING ARRANGEMENT. BUT THOSE NEGOTIATIONS HAVE
STALLED, AND SOME ARGUE THE U.S. WITHDRAW WILL HELP THE TALIBAN
TAKE GOVERNMENT BACK BY FORCE. THIS IS HIGHWAY 1, A KEY BUT
LETHAL ROUTE THE AFGHAN GOVERNMENT CHOOSES TO MOVE
TROOPS. WE'RE MOVING THROUGH AN AREA
THAT WAS RECENTLY UNDER ATTACK.
>> WE'RE JUST CROSSING FROM THE GOVERNMENT CONTROL SIDE OF CABO
INTO THE TALIBAN TERRITORY. WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT AS
DISCREETLY AS POSSIBLE. WE'RE ACTUALLY BEING SMUGGLED
THROUGH, WHICH MEANS I'M GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE.
I'LL DO THAT NOW.
>> ANYWAY WHO DRIVES THROUGH THIS ROAD IS UNDER CONSTANT
THREAT FROM ROADSIDE BOMBS, AMBUSH ATTACK AND SMALL ARMS
FIRE.
>> THIS IS HUGE. EVERY FEW METERS THERE'S A
MASSIVE CRATER, KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IMPRESSION OF JUST HOW
MUCH FIGHTING THAT HAS BEEN HERE AND THIS IS THE SORT OF THING
THAT THE PEACE DEAL IS SUPPOSED TO PUT AN END TO.
>> THIS IS WHAT LIFE LOOKS LIKE UNDER THE TALIBAN.
THERE'S NO WOMEN TO BE SEEN AND FIGHTERS CONTINUE TO GOVERN
THROUGH ITS TRADITIONAL MEANS OF FEAR, VIOLENCE AND INTIMIDATION.
THE TALIBAN MOVEMENT WAS FORMED IN 1994 AFTER THE SOVIET-AFGHAN
WAR. WHAT FOLLOWED WAS A BRUTAL AND
OPPRESSIVE REGIME THAT PRACTICED A FUNDAMENTALIST INTERPRETATION
OF SHARIA LAW AND RULED THE COUNTRY UNTIL THEY WERE REMOVED
FROM POWER BY THE U.S.-LED INVASION 19 YEARS AGO.
IN THIS VILLAGE, OUR TALIBAN HANDLERS WERE KEY TO SHOW
EVIDENCE OF FORM. THEY SAY GIRLS ATTEND SCHOOLS,
SMOKING IS PERMITTED AND YOUNG MEN PLAY SOME SPORTS.
STILL, MANY FEEL THE TALIBAN HASN'T CHANGED AND THEY'RE ONLY
BIDING TIME UNTIL THEY'RE BACK IN POWER.
>> THIS WAS FROM YESTERDAY? SO YESTERDAY EVENING, AFGHAN
FORCES WERE TARGETED BY THE TALIBAN HERE AND IN RESPONSE,
THEY BELIEVE AN AMERICAN PLANE CARRIED OUT AN AIR STRIKE ON
THIS MOSQUE. [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
>> A WEAPONS EXPERT CONFIRMED THAT THIS IS THE WING ASSEMBLY
OF AN AMERICAN-MADE GBU GUIDED LASER BOMB USED BY BOTH THE U.S.
AND AFGHAN FORCES. IT WAS BUILT ONE MONTH AFTER THE
U.S. PEACE DEAL WAS SIGNED. IN A STATEMENT TO VICE NEWS, IT
WAS DENIED THE U.S. CARRIED OUT AN ATTACK ON THIS MOSQUE.
WHOEVER WAS RESPONSIBLE, THESE VIFLANS WERE CAUGHT IN THE
CROSSFIRE OF A WAR THEY'RE NOT FIGHTING.
[ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
>> HOW OFTEN DO YOU HEAR AIR STRIKES?
[ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
>> THIS IS QUITE DANGEROUS. WE SHOULD PROBABLY MOVE OUT OF
HERE. IT'S FALLING, OKAY?
[ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
>> WOULD YOU EVER BE ABLE TO FORGIVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS?
[ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
>> WOW. OKAY.
SO THIS IS WHERE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE DESTRUCTION
HAPPENED. THEY'RE TRYING TO PICK UP EVERY
SINGLE PIECE. THERE'S JUST NO DOUBT THAT
THE -- HERE FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND FOR A LOT OF MUSLIMS IS SUCH
AN IMPORTANT HOLY BOOK. THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST
INSULTING THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN TO THEM.
AND IT'S THIS SORT OF THING THAT CAN LIVE ON IN THE MINDS OF SOME
OF THESE YOUNG CHILDREN WHO ALREADY HAVE A HATRED FOR THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WHEN THEY SEE SOMETHING LIKE
THIS HAPPENING, IT STAYS WITH THEM.
>> WE'VE BEEN WAITING AROUND FOR TWO HOURS NOW FOR THE TALIBAN
COMMANDER TO TAKE US ON TO THE NEXT LOCATION.
IT'S ALREADY SUNSET SO WE'RE GOING ON BE DRIVING IN THE DARK.
AND AT 6 OSHG P.M., THE AND AT 6 OSHG P.M.:00 P.M., THE
SHUT OFF THE NETWORK. SO WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO TEXT
MESSAGES OR DATA. WE'RE JUST KIND OF STUCK HERE
WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS. FOR OUR SAFETY, WHEN WE GO FROM
VILLAGE TO VILLAGE, WE'RE TOLD TO KEEP LOW PROFILE.
>> WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHERE WE ARE.
WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE. WE'VE BEEN DRIVING ALONG A
PRETTY BUMPY, DANGEROUS ROAD. HALF THE ROUTE HAS BEEN ON A
CLIFF EDGE. WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT WE'RE
HEADED TOWARDS A SAFE HOUSE AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE
STAYING OVERNIGHT. IT REALLY MAKES YOU THINK ABOUT
HOW THE TALIBAN REALLY KNOW THIS AREA BECAUSE THE COMMANDER WHO
DROVE US HERE DID IT WITHOUT A MAP.
AND IN THE DEAD OF NIGHT. THEY KNOW THE AREA SO WELL.
IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPLETELY REMOVE THEM.
THIS IS REALLY -- OKAY. OKAY.
>> AND THIS IS WHERE I SAY GOOD-BYE TO THE REST OF THE TEAM
BECAUSE I HAVE TO STAY WITH THE WOMEN AND THE WOMEN ARE STAYING
HERE AND THE MEN WILL BE STAYING IN A DIFFERENT ROOM.
SO I'LL KEEP YOU POSTED AND WE'LL SPEAK IN THE MORNING.
>> HAVING FOUND OUT WHILE THE TALIBAN WERE THERE, YOU WANT
THEM TO TRUST YOU AND THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO TRUST YOU.
SO THIS IS A SIGN OF --
>> HELLO.
>> THANK YOU.
>> HOW ARE YOU?
>> BY MORNING, IT BECOMES APPARENT HOW FAR WE'VE TRAVELED.
THIS PINK HOUSE WHERE I SPENT THE NIGHT IS THE ONE PAINTED
BUILDING IN THE VILLAGE. IT'S RESERVED FOR WOMEN ONLY.
>> HI.
>> HELLO, HI.
>> WE'RE NOW GOING TO MEET ONE OF THE TALIBAN SENIOR COMMANDERS
AT THE NEXT LOCATION. YOU'D NEVER THINK WE WERE IN THE
HEARTLAND OF TALIBAN CONTROLLED AFGHANISTAN.
IT'S SO INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL. THESE ARE ALL APPLE TREES.
LOOK AT THIS.
>> AFGHANISTAN AN COUNTRYSIDE IS RARELY SEEN BY OUTSIDERS AND
OFTEN OVER-SHADOWED BY A DARKER PRESENCE.
>> COMMANDER KATAH LEADS A UNIT OF ABOUT 25 SOLDIERS IN THIS
DISTRICT. [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
>> SINCE THE UNITED STATES AND THE TALIBAN SIGNED A PEACE DEAL,
WHAT IMPACT HAS THAT HAD ON THE GROUND HERE?
DO YOU TRUST THE UNITED STATES TO STICK TO THEIR SIDE OF THE
DEAL? [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
>> DO YOU THINK? IN KABUL.
[ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
>> SO WOULD YOU BELIEVE IN THE DEMOCRATIC VOTE, THOUGH?
SO WOULD PEOPLE BE ALLOWED TO VOTE FOR THEIR OWN POLITICIANS?
[ SPEAK FOREIGN LANGUAGE.
>> NOW THAT AMERICAN SOLDIERS HAVE ALL BUT LEFT AFGHANISTAN,
THE COUNTRY WOULD ONCE AGAIN BECOME A BREEDING GROUND FOR
INTERNATIONAL TERRORISTES.
>> SO HELP ME GOD.
>> CONGRATULATIONS, MR. PRESIDENT.
>> THE TALIBAN, FEAR AGO CHANGE IN POLICY, HAD A CLEAR MESSAGE
FOR THE NEW U.S. PRESIDENT. JOE BIDEN HAS JUST BEEN ELECTED.
DO YOU THINK THAT COULD POTENTIALLY CHANGE THE
SITUATION? [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
>> BUT YOU'RE NOW NO LONGER FIGHTING AGAINST AMERICAN
SOLDIERS. YOU'RE FIGHTING AGAINST PEOPLE
WHO BELIEVE IN THE SAME BOOK AS YOU, YOU'RE FIGHTING AGAINST
YOUR BROTHERS. [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
>> WAS THAT A MESSAGE OR A THREAT?
[ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
>> YOU SURVIVED ANOTHER WEEK. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND
SUBSCRIBING TO OUR PODCAST. WE'VE BEEN AMO SHORTAGES BEFORE,
BUT A WORD TO THE WISE, THIS ONE IS DIFFERENT.
THERE'S A FEW MORE THINGS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD AND DON'T
WANT YOU TO BE CAUGHT WITH YOUR PANTS DOWN.
>> THIS PAST YEAR, AMO AND GUNS HAVE BEEN FLYING OFF THE
SHELVES. NOT JUST BECAUSE AMERICA LOVES
GUNS, BUT ALSO BECAUSE MORE BLACK AMERICANS ARE STARTING TO
PACK. I DECIDED TO TAKE A PEEK INTO
THIS GUN CULTURE MYSELF. START, THE OG SECOND AMENDMENT
ACTIVIST AND PODCAST HOST KEN BLANCHARD.
>> ALSO, WELCOME TO THE SHOW, MAN.
>> APPRECIATE IT. APPRECIATE IT, REVEREND.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON THE SHOW.
>> SIMPLE BUT NOT SO SIMPLE QUESTION.
>> IT'S HARD. GO AHEAD.
>> IS GUN CONTROL IN AMERICA RACIST?
>> YES. WE GOT A COLOR ISSUE THAT GOES
WAY BACK BEFORE SLAVERY. SO IF YOU'VE GOT A BLACK MAN
WITH A GUN, SOMETHING HAS TO BE WRONG.
>> TODAY, AMERICA STILL HAS A COLOR ISSUE.
>> THIS IS ONE OF MANY PROTESTS HAPPENING ACROSS THE NATION.
>> FOLLOWING THE POLICE KILLING OF GEORGE FLOYD LAST SUMMER, THE
COUNTRY ERUPTED IN CIVIL UNREST. A LOT OF THE PEOPLE IN THE
STREET HAD GUNS. POLICE, NATIONAL GUARD, WHITE
NATIONALIST GROUPS AND MILITIAS. IT SEEMED LIKE EVERYBODY WAS
PREPARING FOR SOME -- TO GO DOWN.
AS ALL OF THIS TENSION WAS INCREASING, SO WERE GUN SALES
AND BLACK PEOPLE REFUSED TO BE LEFT OUT OF THIS ARMS RACE FOR
SELF PROTECTION AS THEY BOUGHT GUNS AT A RATE YOU ALMOST 60%
HIGHER THAN THEY DID IN 2019. THE NUMBER OF BLACK PEOPLE WITH
GUNS HAS CHANGED, BUT THERE'S STILL A DOUBLE STANDARD WHEN IT
COMES TO THE SECOND AMENDMENT. A WHITE PERSON WITH A GUN IS
SEEN AS A TRUE AMERICAN, BUT A BLACK PERSON CARRYING IS SEEN AS
A THREAT.
>> I JUST LANDED HERE IN TEXAS TO MEET MARCH TEREY, A SECOND
AMENDMENT ACTIVIST AND LEADER OF BLACK GUNS MATTER.
HE'S ON A 30-TOP TOUR ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO SPREAD THE GOSPEL TO
BLACK PEOPLE ABOUT GUN OWNERSHIP.
IS THIS HIM? NO.
THAT IS A WHITE WOMAN. THIS IS CRAZY.
>> WHAT'S UP?
>> BRO, THIS IS YOU?
>> YEAH.
>> SO, MARS, YOU DRIVING THIS BIG RV --
>> YEP.
>> -- ACROSS THE COUNTRY --
>> YEP.
>> -- TO TEACH BLACK FOLKS HOW TO SHOOT FROM GUNS.
>> ABSOLUTELY. EVEN IN AREAS WHERE YOU WOULD
THINK THIS IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE OR EVERYONE PRETTY MUCH AGREES
WITH THE SECOND AMENDMENT, THERE'S POCKETS OF COMMUNITIES
THAT STILL FEEL LEFT OUT OF THAT CONVERSATION.
EVERY AMERICAN SHOULD HAVE A FIREARM.
THERE'S OVER 100 MILLION GUN OWNERS IN AMERICA THAT WE KNOW
OF. I DON'T WANT -- THOSE ARE ROOKIE
NUMBERS. WE'VE GOT TO PUMP THOSE NUMBERS
UP.
>> SO BLACK GUNS MATTER.
>> UH-HUH.
>> WHY DO BLACK GUNS MATTER?
>> BECAUSE IF YOU BELIEVE THAT BLACK LIVES MATTER, YOU SHOULD
HAVE THE MEANS TO DEFEND THEM. NOT JUST WAIT UNTIL THE LAST
MINUTE AND HOPE THAT THE POLICE WILL SHOW UP.
THEY WON'T. IT SHOULD BE NO UNARMED BLACK
MEN. AND THEN THE ARGUMENT IS THEY'RE
SHOOTING PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE ARMED.
THEY'RE SHOOTING UNARMED BLACK PEOPLE, TOO.
WHEN MY LIFE IS IN IMMINENT DANGER AND THAT PERSON OF ANY
UNIFORM DECIDES THEY WANT TO TRY TO TAKE TO MY LIFE, I'D RATHER
BY JUDGED BY 12 THAN CARRIES BY 6.
YOU NEED TO HAVE THE MEANS TO
DEFEND YOURSELF FROM GOVERNMENTS.
IT'S NOT JUST MY SAY IN THIS. IT'S GLOBAL HISTORY.
>> BLACK GUN OWNERSHIP AND THE U.S. GOVERNMENT HAVE A LONG
HISTORY. DURING SLAVERY, WHITE FOLKS WERE
SCARED WHITE PEOPLE WOULD RISE UP IN WHAT THEY CALLED NEGRO
INSURRECTIONS. SO THEY PASSED A LAW MAKING IT
ILLEGAL FOR BLACK PEOPLE TO HAVE GUNS.
LIKE THE ARMED BLACK PANTHERS IN CALIFORNIA.
>> TAKE YOUR HANDS OFF ME IF I'M NOT UNDER ARREST.
>> THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON WHY, OUT ON THE STREET TODAY,
CIVILIANS SHOULD BE CARRYING A LOADED WEAPON.
>> AND PROPOSED GUN CONTROL MEASURES LIKE BANNING FIREARMS
IN PUBLIC HOUSING WHERE A DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF BLACK
AND BROWN PEOPLE LIVE. IN MARS' CLASS, YOU GET A LITTLE
HISTORY, SOME PHILOSOPHY AND MOSTLY IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING
YOURSELF FROM THE STATE.
>> THIS IS GOING TO SOUND HARSH. GOVERNMENT HAS MORE SHOOTERS
THAN YOU. THAT'S WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS ARE. THAT'S WHAT THE SECOND AMENDMENT
IS ABOUT. FOR THE PEOPLE TO PUT THE
GOVERNMENT ON TIME-OUT.
>> IF I DECIDED TO --
>> YOU'RE A HERO.
>> I'M A DEAD HERO.
>> MAYBE NOT. MAYBE NOT.
YOU'VE GOT TO SEARCH YOUR OWN SOUL ABOUT THAT.
EVERYBODY HAS TO MAKE THAT DECISION FOR THEMSELVES.
>> MAKING THAT DECISION COMES AT A MUCH HIGHER PRICE WHEN YOU'RE
BLACK. LAST YEAR, BLACK GUN OWNERS WERE
KILLED BY POLICE AT A RATE ALMOST FOUR TIMES HIGHER THAN
WHITE GUN OWNERS. A WHITE MAN WHO WANTS TO PROTECT
HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY CAN BE UNPROTECTED BY THE SECOND
AMENDMENT. SUCH WAS THE CASE OF CASEY JR.
>> HE WAS THE BIG BROTHER, FATHER SO HIS SIBLINGS BECAUSE
THEIR DAD ISN'T REALLY AROUND LIKE THAT.
SO HE TOOK THAT ROLE. HE WAS A GOOD KID.
>> I GOT A PHONE CALL FROM MY 5-YEAR-OLD SCREAMING
HYSTERICALLY SCREAMING THAT CASEY HAD JUST BEEN SHOT AND HE
WAS LAYING ON THE FLOOR DEAD. THEY SHOT HIM IN HIS BACK.
>> A SHERIFF DEPUTY APPROACHED 23-YEAR-OLD CASEY GOODSON JR., A
BLACK MAN WHO WAS LEGALLY ARMED, BUT NOT THE SUSPECT HE WAS
LOOKING FOR. CASEY WAS RETURNING FROM A
DENTIST APPOINT WHEN AN ALLEGED VERBAL ALTERCATION OCCURRED.
WHAT HAPPENED NEXT IS UNCLEAR TO ALL BUT HIS FAMILY.
>> WHAT WAS THE REASON THAT THEY GAVE YOU FOR THEM SHOOTING
CASEY?
>> HE TRIED TO SAY CASEY POINTED A GUN AT HIM.
BUT WE KNOW MY SON DIDN'T POINT A GUN AT HIM.
THAT'S A LIE. MY SON WAS SHOT FIVE TIMES IN
HIS BACK AND ONCE IN HIS BUTT. CASEY WASN'T A THREAT TO THAT
MAN AT ALL. CASEY WAS A BLACK MAN.
WITH A PISTOL.
>> CASEY RECEIVED HIS CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT, OR CCW, HE HAD
HOPES OF BECOMING A FIREARMS INSTRUCTOR.
>> EVERYBODY THAT WAS AROUND HIM, THAT WAS LEGAL TO GET THEIR
LICENSE, HE ENCOURAGED THEM TO DO SO.
SO HE THOUGHT THAT THAT CCW LICENSE WAS A FORM OF PROTECTION
FOR HIM HAVING THOSE PISTOLS. BUT WE DID TRY TO EXPLAIN TO HIM
THAT EVEN WITH THAT CCW LICENSE, THEY DON'T CARE.
>> OFFICER JASON MEADE THROUGH HIS ATTORNEY DEFENDED HIS
DECISION TO USE DEADLY FORCE CLAIMING CASEY POINTED A GUNL AT
HIM AND REFUSED TO DROP IT. OTHERS LIKE IT, VERY LITTLE IF
ANYTHING EVER HAPPENS TO THE COP.
THIS PATTERN OF POLICE BRUTALITY AND THE INCREASE OF WHITE
SUPREMACIST AGGRESSION, SOME BLACK PEOPLE ARE SAYING ENOUGH
IS ENOUGH AND IF A LARGE SCALE COORDINATED GROUP FOR THE BLACK
COMMUNITY.
>> TO BE HONEST, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE I'M GOING, BUT I'VE
BEEN INSTRUCTED TO FOLLOW THIS CONVOY TO AN UNDISCLOSED
LOCATION TO MEET UP WITH AN ARMED BLACK MILITIA.
AND I WOULD IMAGINE THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHERE THEY
ARE BECAUSE THERE'S A BUNCH OF BLACK FOLKS WITH GUNS IN THE
MIDDLE OF KENTUCKY.
>> LOUISVILLE, I NEVER THOUGHT I'D SEE THIS DAY.
NOW Y'ALL HAVE A CHAPTER. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
>> GRAND MASTER JACK IS THE CHAPTER NFAM.
TODAY HE'S MEETING NEW MEMBERS TO SEE IF THEIR SHOOTING MEETS
NEW STANDARDES.
>> DON'T COME OUT HERE AND TRY TO QUALIFY WITH A WEAPON YOU'RE
NOT COMFORTABLE WITH.
>> A LOT OF GUNFIRE IS ABOUT TO GO OFF SO I'M GOING TO FIND A
SAFE PLACE SO I WON'T BE SHOT.
>> BRING THE BOAT FORWARD. RANGE IS HOT.
COMMENT TO FIRE.
>> THEY'VE BEEN SOCIALIZED TO THINK WHEN I SEE A BLACK MAN
WITH A WEAPON, IT INSTANTLY MUST BE NEGATIVE BUT WHEN I SEE A
WHITE PERSON WITH A GUN, THEY MIGHT BE DOING SOMETHING
PATRIOTIC.
>> I'M NOT THE ONE WITH THE VISUAL PROBLEM.
YOU ARE. THE DEFENSE OF THE BLACK RACE
DOES NOT MEAN ATTACKING SOMEONE. IT MEANS JUST THAT, DEFENDING
AGAINST ATTACKS. IT'S NOT THE NAFC THAT HAS A
RECORD OF VIOLENCE. IT IS THE LONG, HISTORICAL
RECORD OF VIOLENCE BEING EXACTED AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE.
>> GRAB YOUR WEAPON. GET ON THIS LINE.
>> I THINK ALL HELL IS ABOUT TO BREAK LOOSE.
>> EVERYBODY GRAB YOUR WEAPONS. I GIVE YOU ALL A CHANCE TO
DEMONSTRATE THE FULL FIREPOWER OF YOUR CHAPTER IN THE EVENT
THAT SOMEBODY IS STUPID ENOUGH TO POINT A WEAPON AT YOU.
IF THAT HAPPENS, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE IG THAT YOU HAVE.
NFAC, OPEN FIRE.
>> NOT ALL ORGANIZING IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY LOOKS LIKE
PARAMILITARY FOLKS TRAINING IN THE WOOD.
IT HAS MORE THAN 35,000 MEMBERS AND 100 CHAPTERS.
STEPHANIE MARIE IS ONE OF THEIR REGIONAL DIRECTORS.
STEPHANIE, TELL ME WHAT'S GOING ON HERE TODAY.
>> YEAH. TODAY WE'RE JUST HAVING A LITTLE
SUNDAY GUN DAY. I ALSO HAVE MY MOM AND MY
DAUGHTER AND MY LITTLE ONES OUT HERE TRAINING, AS WELL.
SHE'S OVER THERE SHOOTING THE .22.
>> FLEE GENERATIONS.
>> YES, SIR. YES, SIR.
>> OF WOMEN.
>> YES.
>> THAT AIN'T TAKING NO -- FROM NOBODY.
>> NOT AT ALL.
>> THE IDEA OF GUN OWNERSHIP, WHY IS IT NECESSARY TO PUT BLACK
IN FRONT OF THAT FOR YOU?
>> FOR TOO OFTEN, WE'VE BEEN TAUGHT THAT IF WE OWN GUNS, IF
WE TRAIN, WE'RE GOING TO BE A TARGET.
WELL, I HATE TO SEE WELL, I HATE TO SAY IT, WE WERE
BORN A TARGET.
>> SO THE NATIONAL AFRICAN-AMERICAN GUN
ASSOCIATION, HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO THE NRA?
>> THERE'S NO COMPARISON. WE ARE NOT THE NRA.
WE STAND FOR OUR PEOPLE. THE NRA HAS FAILED IN A LOT OF
ISSUES WHEN IT COMES TO AFRICAN-AMERICAN SHOOTINGS.
POLICE INVOLVED SHOOTINGS SPECIFICALLY.
THE NRA IS NOT HISTORICALLY BLACK ORGANIZATION.
AND WE ARE. OUR PEOPLE AREN'T NECESSARILY
GOING OUT AND ARMING UP AGAINST THE POLICE.
WE'RE ARMING UP BECAUSE WE'RE REALIZING THAT THE POLICE AREN'T
THERE TO PROTECT US. WE HAVE TO PROTECT OURSELVES.
WE CALL THE POLICE, THEY'RE KNEELING ON OUR NECKS
YOU WON'T LET US PROTECT OURSELVES.
YOU DON'T PROTECT US. WHAT CAN WE DO?
>> TO HELP ENSURE EQUAL TREATMENT WHILE ARMED, CASEY'S
FAMILY PLANS TO INTRODUCE CASEY'S LAW, BACKED BY
CONGRESSWOMAN JOYCE BEATTY AND STATE REPRESENTATIVE ERICA
CRAWLY, THE BILL WOULD FINANCIALLY PENALIZE OFFICERS
FOR WRONGDOING AND REQUIRE MORE TRAINING ON INTERACTING WITH
ARMED CIVILIANS.
THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR ALL AMERICANS, BUT IN
REALITY, BLACK PEOPLE RISK DEATH TO EXERCISE IT.
>> WHAT IS YOUR HOPE FOR THE FUTURE OF BLACK GUN OWNERSHIP IN
AMERICA?
>> I JUST HOPE THAT WE NO LONG VER TO BE AFRAID OF PROTECTING
OURSELVES OR OWNING GUNS OR BEING SCARED OF MAYBE BEING SHOT
JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A GUN OR MAYBE BEING SHOT JUST BECAUSE
YOU'RE BLACK AND KILLED OR BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING TO THE
POLICE A CERTAIN WAY. I JUST HOPE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE
TO LIVE IN FEAR ANY MORE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG.
WE'RE JUST BLACK. THAT'S THE PROBLEM.