- ♪ MTV ♪
- Pamela has been talking to Fernando for six years.
\h\h\h\h\h\hBut Fernando lives back in Venezuela.
- I never thought that I could \h\h\h\h\hhave this connection
\h\h\h\h\h\hwith someone without even seeing him.
- But you know what he \h\hlooks like, right?
- Um...
- Face recognition.
- All right. Let’s try this.
- Oh. - Oh!
- This is him.
- But who is he?
\h\h\h- Let’s just see who’s at the end of this road here.
There’s a car parking.
- Oh, my God.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- I got you breakfast.
\h\h- Is this--oh, this is all for me.
\hThank you so much. - Yeah, good morning!
- How nice of you
\h\h\h\h\hto put together this buffet of breakfast.
- Listen. I do what I can. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Wow.
\h\h\h\h\h- Back on the road. People think it’s glamorous.
- Yeah, this is great. \h\h\h\h\h- We in here.
- Oh, my God. All right. \h\h\h\h\hWe gotta work.
- I’m ready.
\h\h\h- Ooh, this is an email from Kaely.
Six years of deception.
"My name Is Kaely
\h\h\h\h\h"and I am writing in on behalf of my cousin Pamela.
\h\h\h\h"She’s been in an online relationship
"for around six years \h\h\h\h\hwith a guy
"I’m pretty sure is a catfish.
"Pamela lives in Utah, \h\h\h\hand ’Fernando,’
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hher boyfriend, lives in Caracas, Venezuela."
Wow!
"He has stood up my cousin \h\h\h\h\h\hover 20 times."
- ♪ You never fall in love ♪
♪ Unless it’s broken \h\hfrom the start ♪
\h\h\h\h\h- "And supposedly, his camera has been ’broken’
"for more than five years.
\h\h\h\hAnd she sent him at least $4,000 already."
- Oh, [bleep]. Scammer.
- "Her parents even threatened \h\h\h\h\h\h\hto kick her out.
"This has gone too far.
\h\h"Pamela is a good person with a lot of love to give,
"but I’m really worried that this relationship
\h\h"will keep consuming her like it has been for years.
"We need help.
\h"Yes, I told her I was writing you.
\h\hHere is her number if you can reach out."
- ♪ I’m never gonna learn ♪
- We’ve got to help this girl.
- She’s knee-deep \hwith this guy,
\h\hbecause if he has stood her up 20 times
and she’s still interested... \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Oh, my God.
- What is anything that we have to say
gonna do any good for her?
- Well, let’s call her.
[line trilling]
- Pamela!
- Hi. It’s Nev and Kamie...
\h\h\h\h- Hey! - From Catfish.
- Hello!
- You have such a lovely voice.
Where are you from?
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Oh! - Well, that makes sense.
- Wow!
- Well, look.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hAs you know, your cousin wrote in to us.
- Well, you think she’s crazy, \hbut she thinks you’re crazy.
- Yeah. The feeling is mutual.
- It sounds like, you know, \h\h\h\hyou’ve been talking
to this guy for a long time.
\hWe want to come meet you in Utah.
- Fantastico!
\h\h\h\h- Text us your address and we can see what we can do.
\h- Fantastic. - Okay. See ya.
\h- Thanks, Pamela. All right. Well...
- Going to Utah.
[upbeat music]
- ♪ I’m looking like a lost \h\h\hand lonely creature ♪
♪ Trying to learn it all \h\hwithout a teacher ♪
\h\h\h\h\h- Pamela, hola! - Coming for you, Pamela.
- ♪ Can you take me \h\h\hall the way? ♪
- Salt Lake City, \h\hhere we come.
- ♪ Can you take me \h\h\hall the way? ♪
- We made it. Here we go.
- ♪ Can you take me \h\h\hall the way? ♪
- Provo. Beautiful. Look at this place.
\h\h\h\h- It’s so pretty. - Charming. This is nice.
\hSomething to keep in mind is that Venezuela is having
\h\h\h\h\ha major crisis and has been for a while.
- Yeah.
- Obviously, people who live \h\h\h\hthere are struggling.
So that might play into why \h\h\h\hhe’s either needed
or she’s been willing \h\h\hto send money.
- Yeah. That’s true.
- Wow. It’s right here. \h\h\h\h\h\hAll right.
- Pamela, estamos aquí!
[doorbell rings]
\h- Hey! - Pamela!
\h\h\h- Oh, my God, I cannot believe--
- Good to see you!
\h\h\h\h- Hi! - What’s up?
- Hey! Welcome to my house.
- Oh, my God, I love this wood. \h- Let’s sit down. We can talk
- Yeah. Absolutely.
\h- Let’s chat. - Have a seat.
- Let’s get comfy.
- So tell us a little bit more \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\habout you.
So did you come here \h\h\h\h\hfor school?
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yes. I just recently graduated
\h\hfrom a medical assistant program.
\h- Hey, that’s great. - Wow! Congratulations.
- Thank you, thank you. - Are you working now?
- I have my own business. \h\h\h\h\h\hI do lashes--
\h\h\h- Oh, my-- - I do eyebrows,
manicures, pedicures. \h\hThat’s what I do.
- Well, why the hell did I get
\h\hall prettied up before I came here?
- Yeah.
- If I would’ve known \h\hPamela was here,
\h\h\h\h\hI could’ve got all my [bleep] done in one place.
\h- Yes. Like that’s my passion for real.
- Yeah. - Wow.
So you’ve got your life going.
\h\h\h\h\hYou’ve got a job, you got your own business.
The only thing that seems \h\h\hto be missing is--
- My relationship. \h\h\h\h- Fernando.
- Yeah, Fernando. Yeah.
- We only read an email \h\h\hfrom your cousin,
\h\hso can you give us, like, the whole story?
- The whole story? \h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
- Okay. So here’s the thing.
Everything starts
when I was moving to United States.
Fernando just comment \h\hthrough Instagram,
like, "You’re beautiful."
And we just started talking, \hlike, "Where are you from?"
Like, "What’s your age?"
And things like that. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Okay.
- And when you text, \h\his it in Spanish?
- Yeah. We text in Spanish.
But time passed.
We started talking
every single day, you know.
We have a really good connection.
And then, just, like, \h\h\h\htime stopped.
\hAnd it has been almost six years.
- Wow! That’s a long time.
So since you started talking to Fernando--
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah? - How many times has he said
\h\h\h\h\h\hhe was gonna come and then it hasn’t happened?
- Every year.
So we have been planning \h\h\h\hon special dates,
like, we’re going to spend \h\h\h\hChristmas together.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - Or my birthday together.
\hSo in the year are, like, three,
four times that he says that he’s gonna come--
- So over 20 times, at least. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- At least.
- You haven’t ever \h\hvideo chatted?
- No. He has told me, like,
"My camera’s broke. I don’t have money."
\h\h\hSo I just tell him, "I can give you a phone."
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h"No. I’m not gonna accept that."
- Wait. But you did send \h\h\hsome money, right?
\h- Some? - Well...
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yes. But he never asked for that.
And he was hurting \hevery single day.
\h\h\h\h\hAnd I paid for his knee surgery.
- Wow. How much was that? \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- $2,500.
Also, there have been times
that I just sent him things \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto buy food
\h\h\h\h\hbecause I know how the situation is over there.
That you don’t have food.
\h\hYou don’t have power. You don’t have anything.
\h- Your cousin said you sent him $4,000.
So we still have $1,500 to account for, Pamela.
- Just like food or, "If you \h\hwant to go to this place,
I can give you a little bit, \h\h\h\hto go to the beach."
- And does he send you \hpictures of his knee,
\hor the beach? - No, because--
- Food that he’s eating?
- He doesn’t have a camera! \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hYou know.
- Oh, my God. Get a new camera!
- That’s what I have \h\h\htold him, like.
- And what about phone calls?
Do you two talk on the phone?
\h\h\h- He just called me, along all these six years,
just, like, three times. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Oh.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. I need your help, guys.
- What’s so great \habout this guy?
- He’s very supportive. \hSo here’s the thing.
\hWhen I moved here, I was, kind of, like,
\h\hsad, missing home, moving from my country.
I gained over 100 pounds.
\h\h\hAnd he has been always there for me.
\hLike, our chemistry. We match on everything.
\hI never thought that I could have
this connection with someone.
With him, I can be, \h\h\h\hlike, I am.
We have a really good connection.
I love him.
And he’s my soul mate. \hThat’s what I think.
- But you don’t know \hwhich person it is.
- I know that.
But without even seeing him, he makes me feel everything.
\h\h\h\h\h- Well, you know what he looks like, right?
- Um...
- Have you ever seen \h\h\ha photo of him?
- Here’s the thing.
He used the pictures \h\h\h\hof five guys.
- Five guys? - Five guys.
I’m like, "Stop doing that. \hJust tell me who you are.
I love you more than \hhow you look like."
\h\h\h- You’d think by the fourth time
you discovered he was lying, \h\h\hhe would’ve realized--
- He’d be like, "[bleep] it, \h\h\h\h\hhere’s my picture."
- That, like, you don’t care. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yes.
- What matters to you \h\h\habout Fernando?
If he doesn’t look like \hany of the five guys
that he sent you, that’s fine? \h\h\h\h\h- That’s fine for me.
- If his name is not Fernando, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat’s fine?
- Yeah.
- If he doesn’t live \h\h\h\hin Venezuela?
- That’s fine for me. \h\h- If he has kids?
\h\h\h- I can still be okay with that.
- So what are you not \h\h\h\h\hokay with?
- If he’s a girl. A woman.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Ah. - I’m not okay with that.
- Are you worried about that? \h\h\h\h\h- Here’s the thing.
\h\hWhen we started talking, he told me, "My best friend,
\h\hher name is Daniela. I want you to meet her."
So then she used to call me \h\h\h\h\hevery single day.
They used to live together.
- Have you ever FaceTimed \h\h\h\h\h\hwith Daniela?
- Once.
- You had a conversation where \h\h\hyou could see her talking
and it was definitely her?
- Yeah. It was definitely her.
And there’s one thing \h\hthat shocked me.
- Wait, this is the first thing \h\h\h\h\h\hthat’s shocked you.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hOkay. - So there was one time
\h\h\h\h\hhe called me and we slept together.
\hI slept with my phone right here, like this.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Right. - And it was just, like,
6:00 a.m. Venezuela time.
And I heard Daniela’s \hgrandmother saying,
"Daniela, wake up. Daniela, wake up!"
♪ ♪
\h\h\h\hI text him, "Why, if I fell asleep with you,
\h\hI wake up with her?" And he was like, "Oh, no,
because she just grabbed \h\hthe phone at night."
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Pamela. - No, no, but oh, my gosh.
- Pamela! Come on! \h\h\hIt’s Daniela!
- But I don’t think so. \h\h\h\h\h\h\hI mean...
\hThe way he texts, I feel it’s a man.
Not a girl.
- You don’t want to know.
[laughter]
- Oh, my God.
- In all these years,
\h\h\hI knew he was due for a mental breakdown.
Is there anything else? \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Oh, yeah. One more thing, right?
- Yeah.
\h\h- My family thinks that I stopped talking
with him, like, two years ago.
- Wait, didn’t you get \h\h\h\h\hinto a fight
with your parents because of this?
- Yeah, because it was like, \h\h\h\h\h"Oh, you’re a fool.
You’re sending him money."
So I just left my home \h\hfor, like, a month.
And I was sleeping in my car \h\h\h\h\h\hand crying a lot.
So yeah.
- Pamela, this guy
has put you through so much.
- Well, I mean, I would ask \h\h\h\hwhat he looks like,
but we don’t know.
- Well, let’s--let’s see. \h\h\h- I mean, I have--
\h\h\h- Yeah. Do you have the pictures he sent you?
- So these are the guys.
- These are all different guys.
- Yeah.
- He sent you and said, \h\h"Okay, this is me."
- Yeah. - Okay.
- And this is him.
\h\h\h- So this is the most recent picture he sent you?
\h\h- Yeah. So I have no clue what I can believe from him.
- Can we see your messages \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\htogether?
- Yeah.
- These are a lot of messages \h\h\h\h\h\hhe’s sending you.
- Oh, yeah. We talk a lot.
- I see a lot of "Mi amor. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hMi amor."
- It’s tough because you have
this unbelievable intimacy \h\h\h\h\hwith this person.
I don’t want to ignore that.
But you’re just not getting
\h\h\hwhat you need and want from him.
- Yeah. Or what I deserve. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Mm-hmm.
- All right. Well, look.
\h\h\hWe’re gonna see what we can find out.
Send us whatever you have.
\h\h\h\hAnd as soon as we have something, we’ll let you know.
- Okay. Sounds great.
- We’ve got your back.
- Okay. See you guys.
\h\h\h- Bye. - Thank you!
- See you later.
- Ooh, clouds are rolling in.
It’s gotta be Daniela.
\h\h- Oh, my gosh. - I have no words.
- She’s all in. And I get it. \hI totally get it. But man.
- She’s in for an awakening.
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - That’s for sure.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd I think it’s gonna be a rude one.
♪ ♪
[upbeat music]
- [giggling]
Ah!
♪ ♪
\h\h- This is cool. A little treehouse.
- We’ve been wanting a café \h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor how long?
- This is nice. All right. \hWhat do we got? So look.
\hPamela has been talking to Fernando for six years.
But Fernando lives back in Venezuela.
He says he’s gonna \h\hcome meet her.
Keeps coming up with excuses. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hCan’t make it.
But they develop \ha relationship
\hand he’s been sending her pictures of different guys.
\hShe’s called him out on it. He’s said, "Okay, I’m sorry."
So we know they’re lying.
\h\hAnd Fernando has a friend who he introduced Pamela to,
"Oh, it’s my best girl friend, \h\h\h\h\h\h\hwe’re roommates."
And they started talking and \hbecame really good friends.
They talked on the phone lots. \h\h\h\h\h\h- Mm-hmm. Daniela.
\h\h\h\h\h- Fernando can’t talk on the phone, but Daniela can.
Pamela can’t keep doing this,
but she can’t let it go \huntil she finds out,
\h\h\h\h\honce and for all, who she’s been talking to.
So we got an email here \h\h\h\h\hfrom Pamela.
"Hi, Nev and Kamie. Here’s what I know about Fernando.
"We have had a few phone calls \hwith his number on WhatsApp,
but we mostly message \h\h\hon Instagram."
\h\h\h\hHis best friend Daniela’s phone number.
Daniela’s Instagram.
"The pictures I have of him \h\h\h\h\h\h\hare attached.
"I even tried to search \hthe most recent ones,
\h\h\h\h\h"but nothing came up. So that could be the real him.
\h\hLet me know if you need anything else. Talk soon."
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hOkay. Well, let’s do some image search.
But since she already did her own search for the pictures,
let me try this new site.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hPimEyes. Have you heard of that?
- Mm-mm. Face recognition.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. All right, let’s try this.
\h\h\h\h\hSo we can search multiple photos. Let’s see.
This, this, this. All right. \hI think that should do it.
Search. Oh. Oh! \h\h\h\h\h- Oh!
- Wait, this is him.
- But who is him? Who is he?
\h\h\h\h- Oh, it’s from a Brazilian newspaper.
Oh, look. Luiz [bleep]. \hThat’s gotta be him.
Let’s do a search for this guy.
We got Instagram. \hBe him. Be him.
- Oh. He’s from Brazil?
- He has a boyfriend.
- Almost 23,000 followers.
- This guy is clearly \h\han out and proud
popular Brazilian Instagrammer.
- This is not Fernando.
\hThat’s the most important thing.
- Right. Well, at least we now know who it is.
\hAnd that this isn’t who she’s talking to.
So now let’s go back \hto the email here.
Let’s do the phone search.
- Can we search Venezuelan \h\h\h\h\h\hphone numbers?
- Yeah. Look. You can look up \hinternational numbers now.
\h- Oh. - So...
- Just hit the flag.
- All right. Let’s see.
\h\h\h- Digitel. - Oh, that’s it?
It is a mobile number serviced by Digitel.
So it is a real cell phone, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI guess.
\h\h- Yeah, but who does it belong to?
- I guess that’s it.
Well, let’s see what happens
when we do Daniela’s number.
- Oh. Ooh!
- Ooh. Okay. Hold on a second. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hWhoa.
\h\h\hNo name, but there’s an address in Pennsylvania.
How does that number come back
to someone in Pennsylvania
if it’s Venezuelan?
\h- You can have a foreign number.
\h\h\h\hLike, I have friends who are from other countries
who have their foreign number
that they use solely \hon, like, WhatsApp.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Sure. What else do we have here?
\h- We didn’t look up Fernando’s Instagram.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Oh, right. Let’s take a look at that.
- No picture and no posts.
- But why does it say "Miami" \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin the bio?
- That’s suspicious. \h\h\h\h\h\h- Weird.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hAll right. What about Daniela [bleep]?
- Okay. So that’s Daniela. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hAha.
Here is her Instagram. There’s nothing on it.
But look. There’s a story.
- Ooh! Oh. Okay.
"Life in the States has been \h\hthe most fun of my life."
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. So she just posted this.
- And then she added Fernando. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Oh.
\hWhich is so weird because, like, this profile is empty.
- Mm-hmm.
- Maybe this is Daniela’s way \h\h\h\h\h\hof trying to make
the Fernando page \hseem more real,
by tagging him in a post.
\hBut it does seem that he’s in Miami.
So where are we now?
\hThe guy in the pictures is clearly not Fernando.
- Yeah.
- But there’s clearly a lot \h\hof evidence suggesting
that Fernando and Daniela \h\hare the same person.
The weird time she woke up \h\hto Daniela on the phone
with her instead of Fernando. \hPlus, their Instagram pages
\h\h\h\h\h\hare basically the same empty nothings.
- Mm-hmm.
- They were living together \h\h\h\h\h\hand roommates.
- Mm-hmm.
\h\h- Plus, Daniela’s recent stories said,
"So great living \hin the States,"
and tagged Fernando.
And Fernando, on his Instagram,
the bio says, "Miami."
Like, whoever this person is,
\h\h\h\h\hit feels like they’re in the States.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. It’s so strange and absurd.
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Right. - And the only person
who’s actually shown \h\htheir face to her
has been Daniela.
So it’s gotta be Daniela.
- Really coming down. \h\h\h\h\h\h- It is.
[giggling]
Ah! So rude.
- First snowball of winter.
\h- No! - Hey!
\h\h- Hey! - Come in--
\h- You look so cute. - Out of the weather.
\h\h\h- Hey! - It’s cold.
- It gets much colder \h\h\h\h\hthan this.
\h- Yes. - Right?
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. This is just the start.
- Let’s talk about Fernando. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Okay.
- We have some answers \h\hand some questions.
So I wanna get into this.
- Okay.
\h\h\h\h\h\h- All right. This is your email to us.
When we searched the number, \h\h\h\hwe found it comes up
as a Venezuelan phone number,
but it doesn’t really have \h\h\h\h\h\hany other info.
However, when we searched \h\h\h\hDaniela’s number,
it came back with an address \h\hin Oakdale, Pennsylvania.
- Weird.
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Then I went to Fernando’s Instagram,
and we noticed something.
- Well, his page \hsays, "Miami."
\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. For me, it have never made sense
\h\h\h\h\h\hwhy you have in your profile, "Miami."
- Well, so maybe Fernando \h\h\h\hmoved to Florida,
\h\h\h\h\halthough he would’ve probably mentioned that, but--
- Yeah. And also, we could, \h\h\h\h\hlike, either way,
I can go fly over there. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
- There isn’t anything else \h\h\h\h\h\h\hon his page.
\h\h\h\hSo then we went to Daniela’s Instagram.
And she just posted this story.
- I don’t even understand \h\h\h\h\h\h\hthis quote.
She’s saying like,
"Life in the States makes your life even more fun."
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Mm-hmm. - But she tagged Fernando.
- She tagged Fernando.
- So it kind of feels like \h\h\h\h\h\h\hshe’s saying,
"I live in--I’m in the States \h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith Fernando."
- Mm-hmm.
- Is it possible that Fernando \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand/or Daniela
could be living here \h\h\hin the States?
And could they be the same person?
- I honestly don’t know.
\h\h\h\hWith all this, like, I have no clue. I feel lost.
- Yeah. I’m not trying \hto make things worse,
\h\hbut we did search the most recent pics,
and we found an Instagram \h\hfor a guy named Luiz.
\h\h\h\h- And he has a bunch of followers.
- Yeah. He’s a popular Brazilian Instagrammer.
\h\h\h\hAnd it looks like he also has a boyfriend.
And so we don’t think \h\h\h\hthis is him.
\h\h- Obviously it’s not. - Obviously. Right. Okay.
This is the fifth \h\hor sixth time
that you’ve given him \h\h\ha second chance
to send you the real pictures \h\h\h\h\hand he keeps lying.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. I feel pissed off right now
because it’s just like, \h\h\h\h\h\hoh, my God.
\h\h\h\hAgain? Come on. Has been so many years.
It just seems like a toxic \h\hcircle that never ends.
So right now I feel kind of, \h\hlike, a little bit lost.
\h- You’ve done way more than anybody should have.
- I feel so pissed off.
\h\h\h\h\h- So that’s kind of unfortunately where we’re at.
\h\h\hWe don’t have an answer for you.
\hI think our suspicions continue to point towards
\hFernando and Daniela being the same person,
\hbut we don’t have any proof of that.
- Yeah. Exactly. No proof of that.
\h\h- So basically now the strategy is, like,
\hwe just go straight to Fernando and say,
"Hey. Here’s what’s up. \h\h\h\h\hNow’s your--"
- I think that will be \h\h\hthe best option.
- All right, so I guess
we should just message him.
Message.
\hHe really only speaks Spanish, though, right?
So let’s just send it \h\hin Spanish then.
So, "Hey Fernando. \hMi nombre es Nev.
And I make a TV show."
- Y hago un programa \h\h\hde television.
\h- I am with... - Hoy estoy con.
- Estoy con... \h\h\h- Mm-hmm.
\h- Pamela. - En Utah.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - I know that you would like--
- To meet Pamela. \h- Meet Pamela.
\h\h\h\h\hY we would like to help make that happen.
- Y nos encantaria ayudar.
- I hope to hear \hfrom you soon.
\h- Weird. - Gracias.
- Yeah. That’s pretty good.
- Send it.
- So what do you guys think at this point?
- I mean, we’re just \hgonna have to wait.
That’s all we can do.
- If Fernando messaged \h\h\h\hyou right now,
would you get a notification?
\h\h\h\h- I think so, yeah. - Because if he sees this,
he might immediately \h\h\h\hmessage you.
- Have you gotten anything? \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
- You have?
- "What’s going on?" \h\h\h\h\h\h\h- What?
- Now let’s just say,
\h\h\h\h"Oh, are you talking about the message from Nev?"
- "About the message \hthat Nev sent you."
\h\h\h\h\h\hOh, he just saw it. - Oh. Oh, he saw it. Okay. Oh.
- He’s--he’s typing.
- He’s typing. \h\h\h- Typing.
- What does it say? All right. Read it.
\h- "I don’t know what to tell you.
\h\h\h"I just know that I don’t wanna lose you
"and I want you to forgive me.
You can talk with me, \hnot with the show."
You’re not in a position \h\h\h\h\h\hto say that.
- Right. So I think now you \hhave to just say, "Look.
"I’ve been waiting too long for this.
\h"I do want to meet you, but it has to happen now.
This is your last chance."
- Or never. \h\h- Yeah.
\h\h- Or I’m not going to speak to you again.
- Or you’re gonna lose me, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hactually.
- Right. So what does it say?
\h\h\h- Says, "It wasn’t me who contacted the program.
\h\h"It was my cousin Kaely and I’m glad that she did.
"This is the last chance \hfor you to be with me.
It needs to be right now."
- Oh, he’s typing. \h- Oh, he replied.
- Oh, what did he say? \h\h\h\h\h- "Tomorrow."
- He said, "Okay, mañana." \h\h\h\h\h\h- Okay, mañana.
"Donde nos vamos a ver mañana?"
- What does that say?
- Where we’re meeting \h\h\h\hup tomorrow.
- Oh. Whoa, what’s that? \h\h\h\h\h- What’s that?
\h\h\h\h\h- Wait. - He sent me a--
- He sent you a-- \h\h\h\h- A park.
- A link to a park. \h\h\h\h\h- Where?
- In Provo.
- So how come he knows \h\h\h\h\h\hthis park?
- ’Cause he’s here.
♪ ♪
- I don’t even know that park \h\h\h\h\h\hand I live here.
- As far as we know, this man is supposed
to be in Venezuela.
So how did he get to Utah?
And how long has he been here? \h\h- Okay. So what’d you say?
- I just said, "I can meet you \h\h\hup tomorrow at that park.
I will see you tomorrow \h\h\h\h\hat 11:00 a.m.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand then I’m not waiting for you."
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Good. - I’m so nervous. It’s time.
- It’s past time. \h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
\h- Oh, yeah. - Oh, my God.
- You think we’re gonna walk up \h\h\hon Daniela at this park?
Just saying. \h\h- Right.
- You gotta be prepared \h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor that.
- Here’s the plan. Let’s just assume,
for a moment, it’s not Daniela.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd we get to the park tomorrow and there’s
\h\h\ha guy sitting there that you find attractive.
\h\hDon’t forget, this is still someone who hasn’t treated you
the way you deserve \h\hto be treated,
\h\hand consider that when you look at them
and decide if you think they’re \h\hworthy of your friendship,
relationship, love.
\hAnd just remember, like, whatever happens tomorrow,
you still have to do what’s best for you.
- You’re right.
- Even if it hurts.
- Okay.
- All right. - All right.
- Well, we’ll see you \h\h\hin the morning.
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Perfect. See you tomorrow, guys.
\h\h- See ya. - All right.
- Thank you!
- Oh, boy.
\h\h\h- She’s nervous. She’s obviously nervous
\h\h\hthat it’s Daniela, but she’s just as scared
\hthat whoever this is, he’s not going to show.
\h\h\h\h\h\hRightfully so, ’cause he never has before,
\h\hso why would he now? It weirds me out, though,
that he’s been presumable here \h\h\h\h\h\h\hthis whole time.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. That’s the weirdest part.
Because if he’s lived here \hthe whole time, that’s...
\h\h- Creepy. He’s been leading this girl on...
\h\h\h\h- Right. - For six years.
- I don’t know, do you think \hit’s just a random catfish?
Or do you think it’s Daniela?
- Honestly, I don’t even know anymore.
\h\h\h\h\h\hI have no clue. And that’s the scary part.
It could literally be anybody.
[knocking]
- Oh, it’s already open.
Hello.
♪ ♪
- Hey. - Ahh!
You [bleep] [bleep] head.
- I got a ski mask.
- What the [bleep] is wrong with you?
\h- Well, it’s cold outside. I thought you would be happy.
- Now I need to take off \h\h\h\h\h\hall my layers
because now I’m sweating. \h\h\h\hYou are so rude.
\h\h\h\h\h\h- I got you one. - Why do you look like that?
Take that off. You look crazy.
Anyway...[sighs]
- We’re getting close \h\hto our big date.
- Yeah. I don’t know.
\h\h\h\h\hI mean, Daniela is still a prime suspect
because she’s FaceTimed \h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith her.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. She’s the only real person
that’s been on the other end \h\h\h\h\h\h\hof any of this.
Well, we don’t have \h\ha lot of time,
so we should go.
- Let’s call Pamela.
[line trilling]
- Hey, Pamela.
Have you had any contact \h\h\h\h\hwith Fernando?
- Oh. Are you ready?
\h\h\h\h\h\h- All right. Well, we can come get you
and then head over there.
- All right.
- Our goal today \his to make sure
\hthat Pamela not only talks about it, but be’s about it.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hShe says that she deserves more,
\h\h\h\hshe says that she knows her worth.
\h\hOkay. I hope so. I want that for you.
- Yeah.
- So make sure that you’re communicating that properly
to whoever this person is.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Right. Here she is, waiting for us.
- Pamela! Hola mamita.
\h\h\h- Hey, girl! You look beautiful.
\h\h- So do you. - Oh, thank you.
\h\h\h- You were ready. No one’s ever waiting.
\h- Yes. - I know.
- Waiting in the cold. \h\h\h\h\h- Oh, my God.
\h\h\h\h\h- All right. I got the location in.
It is very close.
- I didn’t sleep at all. \h\h\h\hJust three hours.
\h- Three hours? - Yeah. No joke.
- Should we message him back \h\h\h\h\h\hnow and just say,
"Okay, we’re on our way. Be there in..." I mean...
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. I think that will be great.
"I will be there soon."
- We can’t help but feel like \hthere’s a very good chance
whoever you’ve been talking to \h\h\h\h\h\h\hhas been in Utah.
\hBecause yesterday, when we were convincing him to come,
\h\h\h\h\hhe didn’t ask or say anything about--
\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah, he just-- - Needing to fly or travel
or where should we meet. \hHe just was right away,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h"Yes, okay, here’s a park in Provo."
- Oh, my God.
\h\h\h- Let’s just see who’s at the end of this road here.
There are some people here \h\h\h\h\h\h\hin the park.
- Yeah.
- Could be that guy \h\h\hin the tree?
- Well, that’s somebody \h\hplaying with a dog.
- No, that one that is over there in the tree.
\h\h\h- Oh, where? - You see that one?
- Oh, standing by the tree?
- Yeah. That guy is alone. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h- All right.
Let’s see if we can scope \hthis out a little bit.
- Should I tell him, like, "I’m here. Where are you?"
- Yeah. Do you want to--yeah. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hMessage him.
- Yeah.
- Just say like, "Where are you?"
\h\h\h\h- Am I getting crazy or that’s a guy right there?
You see over there \h\h\hon that tree?
\h\h\h- Oh. - You see?
- Oh, wait a second.
\h\h\h\h\h- Like, right there on the trees? Like, kind of--
- I do see-- - Something.
\h\h\h\h- Oh. Oh, no. Do you think he left?
- Do you think he came? \h- Um, good question.
- That is the better question. \h\h\h\h\h\h- So I don’t know.
\h\hI mean, I don’t like that we’re waiting here.
\h\hI thought we were clear that you’re not gonna wait.
\h\h\h\h\h\h- If he left, then that should tell you
everything that you need \h\h\hto know about him.
- There’s a car parking. \h\h\h\h- What’s the car?
♪ ♪
Oh, my God.
- I don’t know. Let’s see.
- Just get out of the car, \h\h\h\h\h\hwhoever it is.
- Definitely looks \h\h\hlike a woman,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hcarrying what looks like flowers.
- Does that look like Daniela?
♪ ♪
- Oh, my God.
- There's a car parking. - What's the car?
♪ ♪
- I don't know. Let's see.
- Just get out of the car, whoever it is.
- Definitely looks like a woman,
carrying what looks like flowers.
- Does that look like Daniela?
- Oh, my God.
- Well, it looks like
they could be coming this way.
- Is that her? - No.
- Who is that? - Let's see.
- Hello. Are you looking for somebody?
- Pamela? - I'm with Pamela.
- These are for her.
- Hi. - Oh, my God.
- Pamela. - Hi.
Who are you?
- Good.
- But you don't know anything about the sender?
- No, I don't.
- You're just dropping these off, right?
- Yeah. I'm just dropping these off.
I don't know why some cameras are here.
- Fine. I understand.
- Like, I really have no idea. - Thank you.
We don't want to keep you
longer than we need to.
- Thank you. - Thanks.
- Have a good one.
- Okay.
- What does the note say?
- Just bull[bleep].
[sniffles]
So he's saying that, "I wish I could be there with you.
"This is for the most important woman that has my heart.
I love you, Fernando."
So he's not gonna show up.
He just did it again.
[somber music]
♪ ♪
And he doesn't deserve my tears.
I guess I'm never gonna know
who he is or with who I've been talking to.
I'm just pissed off.
And I think that I need to let it go.
- You're right. Like, the fact
that he inconvenienced you enough
to send you to somewhere else, to come here,
to do this whole thing, it's like he's trying to show you
these elaborate gestures just to break your heart.
That's [bleep] up.
- I think I have enough of him.
- Let's get back in the car. - I think it's over.
I don't deserve this. He doesn't care.
And he's not my soul mate.
Definitely not.
♪ ♪
Thank you.
[phone chimes]
- This is him. - Oh.
He's saying, like, "I'm sorry. Forgive me. Forgive me.
Do you already have the flowers?"
I don't even want to talk with him.
- Boy...
- Almost six years of my life for nothing.
- At this point, I would say,
"It doesn't matter who you are.
"Even if you're Daniela, I just want,
"at the very least, to see your face.
Can you at least FaceTime me?"
I mean, just, like, something.
- So I tell him, like, "If you're not here,
"so at least do a video chat.
"I deserve to know who you are.
If you're Daniela, just tell me."
- And my concern is if you do stop talking to them,
what if they want to see you?
They know where you live.
That's scary because
every time you try to stop talking to this person,
they do something to get you to keep talking to them.
What if you really stop?
[phone chimes]
- He just replied, "I'm sorry for--
"for not being there again.
"I'm in Venezuela, but if you want, we can video chat.
And I don't want to lose you."
How come he's in Venezuela if he sent those flowers
and he sent this park?
- Well, who knows what the real truth is here,
you know what I mean?
Wait, so okay, great. So let's FaceTime.
Tell him, "I'm going home
and if you want to FaceTime with me..."
- "I'll give you 10 minutes."
- Yeah. I'll be there in, you know, 5 or 10 minutes.
- He's saying how we're going to do it.
- We could send him a Zoom link.
- Oh, yeah.
I thought that it was going to be a happy ending.
Six years of [bleep].
♪ ♪
- All right, well, if we can get this guy on the computer,
let's at least do that, all right?
- Yes.
♪ ♪
Let's go downstairs.
- Downstairs, okay.
- Oops. Be careful.
♪ ♪
- All right.
- You wanna have a comfy seat on the couch?
- Yes, of course. - We'll handle this part.
That way we can make sure this isn't just another game
for him and he's shooting straight with us.
Oh. Okay.
- Okay. - Okay.
- We're gonna send him a Zoom link here.
You'll be able to, obviously, see and hear him,
but he won't be able to see you until you're ready.
- Okay. - All right.
We're in the Zoom.
- Donde estás, Fernando?
- He might not show up.
- Oh! - Oh, my God.
- Oh. - Hello?
\h\h\h\h- Oh! - Oh, my God.
- Oh.
- Hello?
[suspenseful music]
- Hello.
[both speaking Spanish]
♪ ♪
- [speaking Spanish]
- Kamie. - Kamie.
- Fernando. - Fernando.
- Right. So look.
- I’ll go right here.
- [speaking Spanish]
\h- Yeah. - Mm-hmm.
- Okay.
- So what was the plan? \h\hWhat was his plan--
- Yeah. Was he ever gonna... \h\h\h\h\h- This whole time?
- So he’s saying he wants to have everything ready
\h\h\h\h\hand has money and, like, his courage.
- He’s getting everything ready
and he’s just asking \h\h\h\hfor one more,
you know, like, trust him \h\h\hjust one more time.
- Oh, he’s asking that now? \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
- That’s a big ask.
\h\h- He loves you and the connection,
that he can’t be lying about that.
- Yes. Mm-hmm.
\h\h\h\h- He’s promising me now that things are gonna be okay.
So how I can know that if I don’t give a try?
\h\h- I don’t blame you for wanting to give him
one more chance to show up,
but I think, if it were me, \h\h\hI’d say, "All right.
Well, the next time I hear from you should be from..."
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Right. - "The Provo airport."
\h\hBecause I don’t want him building you up for the next
three, four, five, six weeks. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
- So if you’re serious, \h\h\h\h\h\h\hshow up,
and I’ll consider meeting you.
- Aww.
- Wait, what did he say?
\h\h\h\h\h- I say for him that if he wants to give me a ring,
he needs to give it to me.
\h\hAnd he said that that’s what he wants.
- Okay, Fernando.
- Fernando.
- Mm-hmm.
- Si. Y--don’t--you know, \hdon’t [bleep] this up.
- Yeah. - Yeah.
- All right. Okay.
- It’s my time.
- We’re gonna go outside. \h\h\hLet you guys hang.
Okay, Fernando.
- Okay.
- All right. - Thank you.
- She’s gonna be with him for the rest of her life.
\h\h\h\h- You think so? - He’s gonna move here
and they’re gonna get married--
\h\h\h\h\h- Wait, really? - And they’re gonna--yes.
- Do you think--you think
it could work out, \h\hlike, for them?
- It’s gonna--she’s gonna \hmake it work out. Okay?
\h\hPamela is the most determined girl I know.
- ♪ Here comes the bride ♪
\h- [squeals] [both laugh]
\h\h\h- How do you feel about this whole thing?
- So I’m super happy \h\h\h\h\hright now.
- Right.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I mean, there are still things
that need to be done,
\h\h\h\hbut I think that it’s, like, a huge step.
Like, at least I know with who \h\h\h\h\hI’ve been talking to.
- He’s very handsome. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
And he’s cute and all that.
- All right. \h\h\h- Yay.
- I’m gonna miss you guys.
- We’ll miss you too. \hWe’re proud of you.
\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - Oh, group hug.
\h\h\h\h\h\h- ♪ Girl, I’m in love with you ♪
♪ Think I’m in love with you ♪
[computer chimes]
all: Hi!
- What’s up, guys?
- Good! Everything, it’s good.
- Como estás?
Muy bien.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Good, good. - Fill us in a little bit.
What’s been going on \h\h\h\hfor you guys?
- So we have been talking \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hlike this,
like, video chat on the phone.
\hYesterday, actually, he went to the embassy
to sign some documents \h\hfor his passport,
\h\h\hand he’s gonna get his passport this week.
Two days after, he’s gonna come.
- Is he gonna live with you?
- Once he get here, like,
we’re gonna be together.
- Wow! - Yay!
\h\h\hSo, Fernando, do you have your...
...packed?
- Everything, it’s ready. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Wow!
\h\h\h- Are you ready, Pamela? Are you ready for him to move?
\h\h\h\h- I am ready. I’m super ready. Yeah.
He’s the love of my life.
- Aww, look at Fernando \h\h\h\h\h\hall smiley.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hThis is great. - I cannot wait for next week.
- We’re happy for you guys. \h\h\h- This is wonderful.
Finally!
♪ ♪
- Onyx has been talking to Lola.
- She fell in my hands,
\h\h\h\hlike an angel just came down, like,
and just did the work for me.
- Let’s run the pics.
- Oh! - Oh!
- Who is it? - Oh. Hello!
You wanna come on out?
\h\h\h\h\h- I don’t see why we have to see each other.
- You wanna open the door \h\h\h\h\h\ha little bit?
- Oh, my God. \h\h\h\h- Oh.
- All right.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪