1 00:00:00,901 --> 00:00:02,903 - ♪ MTV ♪ 2 00:00:02,970 --> 00:00:04,505 - We got Gabby. She's 29. 3 00:00:04,571 --> 00:00:06,340 She gets this message from Kendrick. 4 00:00:06,406 --> 00:00:08,308 They get closer and closer. 5 00:00:08,375 --> 00:00:10,244 - He talked about, "Oh, I want to be with you. 6 00:00:10,310 --> 00:00:11,612 "I want to spend time with you. 7 00:00:11,678 --> 00:00:12,813 I want to settle down with you." 8 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,848 But he got shot in the chest twice, 9 00:00:14,915 --> 00:00:17,117 and he died mid-surgery. 10 00:00:17,184 --> 00:00:19,052 [computer chimes] 11 00:00:19,119 --> 00:00:20,320 - How did that happen? 12 00:00:20,387 --> 00:00:22,422 - It definitely hit me hard. 13 00:00:22,489 --> 00:00:24,057 - That's him right there. - What? 14 00:00:24,124 --> 00:00:25,225 - That's his account. 15 00:00:26,293 --> 00:00:27,494 - Can I have a moment? 16 00:00:27,561 --> 00:00:30,030 - It's like a real-life spam email. 17 00:00:30,097 --> 00:00:31,765 [computer chimes] - Is someone here? 18 00:00:31,832 --> 00:00:34,134 Oh, hello. 19 00:00:36,069 --> 00:00:38,772 [dramatic musical sting] 20 00:00:38,839 --> 00:00:40,407 - Where's our posters? 21 00:00:40,474 --> 00:00:42,910 We need to put up the Biggie poster. 22 00:00:42,976 --> 00:00:47,281 All right, finally. - This is the Biggie poster. 23 00:00:47,347 --> 00:00:49,016 - This is the Biggie poster. 24 00:00:49,082 --> 00:00:50,918 Sometimes he's not here. - Wow. 25 00:00:50,984 --> 00:00:52,419 Don't you think you're taking it a little too far? 26 00:00:52,486 --> 00:00:54,555 - It's never too far for the ones we love. 27 00:00:54,621 --> 00:00:57,591 Tell me you've seen a more handsome face. 28 00:00:57,658 --> 00:00:58,992 - [laughs] 29 00:00:59,059 --> 00:01:01,628 All right, now that the team is fully assembled, 30 00:01:01,695 --> 00:01:03,397 let's get into it. We got an email. 31 00:01:03,463 --> 00:01:05,899 "There's no way he was real." 32 00:01:05,966 --> 00:01:09,069 "Hi, Nev and Kamie, my name is Laurannette, 33 00:01:09,136 --> 00:01:12,773 "and I live in South Carolina. My cousin, Gabriela, 34 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,443 "is getting catfished for a fact, like 100%." 35 00:01:16,510 --> 00:01:18,212 - Oh. - "She started talking 36 00:01:18,278 --> 00:01:21,181 "to this guy, Kendrick, on Snapchat, 37 00:01:21,248 --> 00:01:23,283 "and she was head over heels. 38 00:01:23,350 --> 00:01:25,285 "I was listening to what she was telling me, 39 00:01:25,352 --> 00:01:26,820 "and I knew it was crazy." 40 00:01:26,887 --> 00:01:29,990 - ♪ Just when I thought that it was over ♪ 41 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:32,359 - "I was telling her it was a catfish for months, 42 00:01:32,426 --> 00:01:34,294 but she kept on talking to him." 43 00:01:34,361 --> 00:01:37,698 - ♪ Just beginning ♪ [phone chimes] 44 00:01:37,764 --> 00:01:41,001 - "But listen, on the day that he's finally 45 00:01:41,101 --> 00:01:43,637 "supposed to meet up with her, he ends up getting shot, 46 00:01:43,704 --> 00:01:46,740 goes into surgery, and dies." 47 00:01:49,409 --> 00:01:50,944 - It's a lot for the morning. 48 00:01:51,011 --> 00:01:55,315 - "Now she's mourning somebody 49 00:01:55,382 --> 00:01:58,385 "that probably didn't even exist, 50 00:01:58,452 --> 00:02:00,287 "and I don't know how to make her see that. 51 00:02:00,354 --> 00:02:03,957 "There's actually more crazy stuff, 52 00:02:04,057 --> 00:02:06,927 "but I figured a dead catfish would show you 53 00:02:07,060 --> 00:02:08,862 "what we're dealing with. 54 00:02:08,929 --> 00:02:13,500 We need to find out the truth so she can move on." 55 00:02:13,567 --> 00:02:15,836 - ♪ You're never gonna leave me ♪ 56 00:02:15,903 --> 00:02:18,105 - "Please help. Thank you, Laurannette." 57 00:02:18,172 --> 00:02:21,241 - ♪ Wishes in my head ♪ 58 00:02:21,308 --> 00:02:25,812 ♪ ♪ 59 00:02:25,879 --> 00:02:27,214 - Um... 60 00:02:27,281 --> 00:02:30,083 - I mean, part of me feels like, "He's dead. 61 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:31,552 You'll get over it." - Let him go. 62 00:02:31,618 --> 00:02:32,986 - Nothing ever good comes from trying to 63 00:02:33,086 --> 00:02:34,154 bring people back to life. - Dig up the dead? 64 00:02:34,221 --> 00:02:35,589 No, no, no. No. 65 00:02:35,656 --> 00:02:37,791 We're joking but, like, could he actually be dead? 66 00:02:37,858 --> 00:02:40,194 - It's true. - We got to hit up Laurannette. 67 00:02:40,260 --> 00:02:42,863 ♪ ♪ 68 00:02:42,930 --> 00:02:45,732 Can you join our Zoom? [computer chimes] 69 00:02:45,799 --> 00:02:47,601 Nobody invited Gabriela to the funeral? 70 00:02:47,668 --> 00:02:50,470 - Was there a news story? Was there a police report? 71 00:02:50,537 --> 00:02:52,339 - That would be easy to find. [computer chimes] 72 00:02:52,406 --> 00:02:53,507 [gasps] Laurannette. 73 00:02:56,844 --> 00:02:58,745 Pull over, drive safe. 74 00:02:58,812 --> 00:03:00,747 We don't need two bodies on our hands. 75 00:03:00,814 --> 00:03:03,083 [computer chimes] - [gasps] 76 00:03:03,150 --> 00:03:05,919 - Hey. - Hello. 77 00:03:06,053 --> 00:03:08,822 - I can't believe this. Like, you guys answered. 78 00:03:08,889 --> 00:03:10,357 I really need your help. 79 00:03:10,424 --> 00:03:12,459 I needed it, like, yesterday. [chuckles] 80 00:03:12,526 --> 00:03:13,961 - Yeah. - Wait, so do you have 81 00:03:14,061 --> 00:03:16,063 a minute just to kind of give us the whole backstory? 82 00:03:16,129 --> 00:03:20,234 - Yes, I do. [laughter] 83 00:03:20,300 --> 00:03:21,935 First of all, 84 00:03:22,069 --> 00:03:23,770 I'm very skeptical about a lot of stuff. 85 00:03:23,837 --> 00:03:25,772 So as soon as she told me, I was like, 86 00:03:25,839 --> 00:03:28,942 "I don't know, Gabby. This don't sound right." 87 00:03:29,076 --> 00:03:31,378 And when I heard Kendrick's going to come and see her, 88 00:03:31,445 --> 00:03:33,780 I was like, "Oh, no. Mm-mm." - Where does he live? 89 00:03:33,847 --> 00:03:36,083 - In Atlanta, like, two hours away, 90 00:03:36,149 --> 00:03:37,518 but he never showed. 91 00:03:37,584 --> 00:03:38,819 - And the reason he didn't show up 92 00:03:38,886 --> 00:03:41,088 was because somehow he ended up getting shot. 93 00:03:41,154 --> 00:03:42,689 And someone texted her or... 94 00:03:49,530 --> 00:03:51,965 - But even after he died, 95 00:03:52,099 --> 00:03:55,969 she hasn't considered that he might not have been real? 96 00:03:56,103 --> 00:03:57,337 - I go on Snapchat, 97 00:03:57,404 --> 00:04:00,040 and she's "RIP," and she's crying at work. 98 00:04:00,107 --> 00:04:02,576 She's like a really-- I don't want to get emotional, 99 00:04:02,643 --> 00:04:05,045 but she's really, like, she's a strong person. 100 00:04:05,045 --> 00:04:06,446 Like, she got four kids. 101 00:04:06,513 --> 00:04:08,782 Like, she does a lot by herself. 102 00:04:08,849 --> 00:04:10,851 - Wow. - I'm about to cry, guys. 103 00:04:10,918 --> 00:04:12,319 - Aww. 104 00:04:12,386 --> 00:04:13,520 - I don't want to cry. 105 00:04:13,587 --> 00:04:14,855 'Cause that's like my sister, so... 106 00:04:14,922 --> 00:04:18,058 - I get it. My cousin is like my sister. 107 00:04:18,125 --> 00:04:20,060 - She's lucky to have you looking out for her. 108 00:04:20,060 --> 00:04:22,863 We got to talk to Gabby. Do you think she'd be okay 109 00:04:22,930 --> 00:04:25,666 to let us step in and see what we can find out? 110 00:04:25,732 --> 00:04:27,668 - I could text her right now 111 00:04:27,734 --> 00:04:29,670 and see, like, if she's willing to do it. 112 00:04:29,736 --> 00:04:30,871 - Text her. 113 00:04:30,938 --> 00:04:32,573 - Okay, let me text her real quick. 114 00:04:32,639 --> 00:04:34,708 - Let's see if we can get her on the line. 115 00:04:34,775 --> 00:04:36,777 - I just asked her if she can come to my house. 116 00:04:36,844 --> 00:04:39,279 I told them about Kendrick, and they want to help. 117 00:04:39,346 --> 00:04:40,581 She said, "Oh, [bleep]." 118 00:04:40,647 --> 00:04:43,383 Yeah, so I'm gonna drive home. 119 00:04:43,450 --> 00:04:44,885 Do you want me to text you guys or something? 120 00:04:44,952 --> 00:04:46,253 - Yeah. - Okay. 121 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,455 Bye. - See ya. 122 00:04:48,522 --> 00:04:52,192 [computer chimes] Ay-yi-yi-yi-yi. 123 00:04:52,259 --> 00:04:53,794 We've got a dead one. [laughs] 124 00:04:55,128 --> 00:04:57,231 - Oh, I just need a nap. 125 00:04:57,297 --> 00:05:02,736 ♪ ♪ 126 00:05:02,803 --> 00:05:04,538 [phone chimes] All right, she texted. 127 00:05:04,605 --> 00:05:07,274 She said they're ready. [computer chimes] 128 00:05:07,341 --> 00:05:09,476 both: Hey. 129 00:05:09,543 --> 00:05:11,178 - Hey. - What's up? 130 00:05:11,245 --> 00:05:13,380 - Gabriela. - What's up? 131 00:05:13,447 --> 00:05:15,048 - First of all, how are you? 132 00:05:15,048 --> 00:05:17,050 - Um, a lot of things been going on, 133 00:05:17,084 --> 00:05:19,119 AKA the whole Kendrick situation, 134 00:05:19,186 --> 00:05:22,055 but besides that, I'm getting my life together, 135 00:05:22,055 --> 00:05:24,057 and I'm good. 136 00:05:24,124 --> 00:05:26,593 - Obviously, we got a little bit of info 137 00:05:26,660 --> 00:05:28,529 on what went down. - From Laurannette. 138 00:05:28,595 --> 00:05:29,563 - Right, but we would love to hear 139 00:05:29,630 --> 00:05:31,765 your take on this whole situation. 140 00:05:31,832 --> 00:05:34,201 - I met Kendrick through Snapchat. 141 00:05:34,268 --> 00:05:36,770 He hit me up and said, "Hey, beautiful." 142 00:05:36,837 --> 00:05:38,338 I'm like, "Do I know you?" 143 00:05:38,405 --> 00:05:40,507 He's like, "No, I don't know you. 144 00:05:40,574 --> 00:05:43,844 "I was in a Snapchat group. They said that you were cute, 145 00:05:43,911 --> 00:05:45,646 "and so I decided to add you." 146 00:05:45,712 --> 00:05:49,950 And he sent me a picture, and I'm like, "Okay, okay. 147 00:05:50,083 --> 00:05:52,920 You know, you smash, you know." [laughs] 148 00:05:52,986 --> 00:05:55,222 - Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 149 00:05:55,289 --> 00:05:59,860 - So we start talking, and then he kept hitting me up. 150 00:05:59,927 --> 00:06:02,095 And, you know, "How's your day, beautiful?" 151 00:06:02,162 --> 00:06:05,132 About a week later, we exchanged numbers. 152 00:06:05,199 --> 00:06:07,434 - Were you talking on the phone or just texting? 153 00:06:07,501 --> 00:06:10,304 - We texted, and we texted almost every day. 154 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:13,173 He seemed like he had a good head on his shoulders. 155 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,677 He seemed smart and funny and a very caring person. 156 00:06:16,743 --> 00:06:18,779 He talked about, "Oh, I want to be with you. 157 00:06:18,846 --> 00:06:19,913 "I want to spend time with you. 158 00:06:20,047 --> 00:06:21,381 "I want to settle down with you." 159 00:06:21,448 --> 00:06:24,484 And me being separated from my previous relationship 160 00:06:24,551 --> 00:06:26,053 for almost a year now, it just-- 161 00:06:26,119 --> 00:06:27,921 it felt nice to hear those things. 162 00:06:28,055 --> 00:06:29,223 - Okay. 163 00:06:29,289 --> 00:06:30,524 - You're coming out of that relationship. 164 00:06:30,591 --> 00:06:32,459 Kendrick finds you. 165 00:06:32,526 --> 00:06:34,094 He's saying all the right things. 166 00:06:34,161 --> 00:06:35,863 Was he talking about coming to visit you a lot? 167 00:06:35,929 --> 00:06:38,065 - Yeah, we definitely planned to meet up, 168 00:06:38,098 --> 00:06:41,568 but I received this message from Holiday Season, 169 00:06:41,635 --> 00:06:44,605 which is his longtime ex-girlfriend. 170 00:06:44,671 --> 00:06:46,273 He was trying to get away from her, 171 00:06:46,340 --> 00:06:47,641 but she's crazy. 172 00:06:47,708 --> 00:06:49,977 - Her name is Holiday Season? 173 00:06:50,077 --> 00:06:52,579 - Her Snapchat name is, yeah. - Okay. 174 00:06:52,646 --> 00:06:54,214 - She said, "You been talking to my man." 175 00:06:54,281 --> 00:06:56,783 I said, "I literally just want to get to know him." 176 00:06:56,850 --> 00:06:58,752 So she said, "Okay, good. I'll allow you to be friends." 177 00:06:58,819 --> 00:07:00,821 And I'm like, "Okay, whatever." 178 00:07:00,888 --> 00:07:04,725 So he was packing his bags to come see me. 179 00:07:04,791 --> 00:07:07,060 I spoke to him early in the morning. 180 00:07:07,127 --> 00:07:10,163 It's a two-hour drive from Atlanta to Greenville. 181 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:12,432 So I'm like, "Okay, you should be here by the afternoon." 182 00:07:12,499 --> 00:07:14,067 Then, later on in the evening, 183 00:07:14,134 --> 00:07:16,303 I couldn't get any reply from him. 184 00:07:16,370 --> 00:07:19,673 Holiday hits me up, and she tells me, 185 00:07:19,740 --> 00:07:20,941 "He's in the hospital. 186 00:07:21,041 --> 00:07:22,809 "He got shot in the chest twice. 187 00:07:22,876 --> 00:07:26,180 He's fighting for his life." - How did that happen? 188 00:07:26,246 --> 00:07:27,581 - She's like, "It's probably 189 00:07:27,648 --> 00:07:28,916 his hood-ass friends" and stuff like that. 190 00:07:29,049 --> 00:07:31,952 I'm like, "Wait, what? Are you serious?" 191 00:07:32,052 --> 00:07:34,588 A few days later, Holiday told me that he was 192 00:07:34,655 --> 00:07:37,157 gonna get moved to Miami to see a specialist. 193 00:07:37,224 --> 00:07:40,827 When that happened, that's when I started getting text messages 194 00:07:40,894 --> 00:07:43,463 back from Kendrick while he was at the hospital. 195 00:07:43,530 --> 00:07:45,065 - Oh. - You know, I'm like, 196 00:07:45,098 --> 00:07:48,068 "Okay, this is a catfish." But when he sent the picture... 197 00:07:48,135 --> 00:07:49,870 - Yeah, he sent-- - That threw me off 198 00:07:49,937 --> 00:07:52,105 because it was him in the hospital 199 00:07:52,172 --> 00:07:54,241 with everything on. - With a hospital gown, yeah. 200 00:07:54,308 --> 00:07:55,609 ♪ ♪ 201 00:07:55,676 --> 00:07:57,211 So, while he's in the hospital, 202 00:07:57,277 --> 00:07:59,546 that's when he started throwing the "I love you. 203 00:07:59,613 --> 00:08:00,814 "I want to be with you. 204 00:08:00,881 --> 00:08:02,182 I know what I want out of my life." 205 00:08:02,249 --> 00:08:05,886 And he was to have surgery August 3rd. 206 00:08:06,019 --> 00:08:09,056 And I texted him that morning, 207 00:08:09,122 --> 00:08:11,258 and he was, you know, a little scared. 208 00:08:11,325 --> 00:08:13,093 So, you know, I just tried to lift his spirits. 209 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,597 And that's when I sent one top titty pic. 210 00:08:16,663 --> 00:08:18,866 You know, make you feel better. Think about that. 211 00:08:18,932 --> 00:08:21,034 - You sent him a titty pic before surgery? 212 00:08:21,068 --> 00:08:22,102 [laughter] 213 00:08:22,169 --> 00:08:23,270 - I wanted to make him feel better. 214 00:08:23,337 --> 00:08:24,905 - You said, "If you gonna go out, 215 00:08:25,038 --> 00:08:26,540 go out with these." - Yeah. 216 00:08:26,607 --> 00:08:28,242 [laughter] 217 00:08:28,308 --> 00:08:30,377 - Oh, my God. Wow. 218 00:08:30,444 --> 00:08:34,748 - So he goes into surgery. I didn't hear from him. 219 00:08:34,815 --> 00:08:38,585 And then I got a message from his cousin, Tim. 220 00:08:38,652 --> 00:08:41,088 He said, "Kendrick died mid-surgery." 221 00:08:43,056 --> 00:08:44,458 He said, "He told me about you. 222 00:08:44,525 --> 00:08:45,792 "He said you were a good girl 223 00:08:45,859 --> 00:08:47,694 who deserved to have a good guy." 224 00:08:47,761 --> 00:08:50,063 And then the last time I spoke to Tim, 225 00:08:50,063 --> 00:08:53,400 Tim was telling me that Kendrick was getting cremated. 226 00:08:53,467 --> 00:08:55,369 The next day, I asked, "How was the celebration?" 227 00:08:55,435 --> 00:08:57,871 And I never got a response from him ever again. 228 00:08:59,239 --> 00:09:02,576 - I mean, that's very--that's tough. 229 00:09:02,643 --> 00:09:05,512 - It's crazy. It definitely hit me hard 230 00:09:05,579 --> 00:09:08,448 'cause I'd grown to care about him. 231 00:09:08,515 --> 00:09:10,651 So it was tough. 232 00:09:12,052 --> 00:09:15,155 - I want to say sorry for your loss, 233 00:09:15,222 --> 00:09:20,861 but it's hard to know what is real and what isn't 234 00:09:20,928 --> 00:09:22,496 in this situation 'cause it's so chaotic. 235 00:09:22,563 --> 00:09:23,830 - Yeah. 236 00:09:23,897 --> 00:09:27,901 It's crazy, but I did grow fond of him. 237 00:09:28,035 --> 00:09:30,037 And it was real for me. 238 00:09:30,070 --> 00:09:33,607 - I'm very curious to see Kendrick. 239 00:09:33,674 --> 00:09:35,309 And I'm obviously curious to see Holiday. 240 00:09:35,375 --> 00:09:38,612 Can you show us some pics? - Yeah, I can pull it up. 241 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,881 - Guys, I've seen all these pictures, 242 00:09:40,948 --> 00:09:43,817 so look out for her. I know y'all got her. 243 00:09:43,884 --> 00:09:46,119 So I'm gonna go. - Oh, okay. 244 00:09:46,186 --> 00:09:48,755 - And it was really nice talking to you. 245 00:09:48,822 --> 00:09:51,158 I really--I'm thankful that you guys reached out 246 00:09:51,225 --> 00:09:52,626 and you can help her. 247 00:09:52,693 --> 00:09:54,494 - You came to the right place. 248 00:09:54,561 --> 00:09:56,063 - Bye, guys. 249 00:09:56,063 --> 00:09:57,731 - Bye. Thank you. - Bye. 250 00:09:57,798 --> 00:10:00,367 - Bye. - Let me share this, you guys. 251 00:10:01,368 --> 00:10:02,836 All right, that's Kendrick. 252 00:10:03,770 --> 00:10:06,073 - Okay. - Right? 253 00:10:06,139 --> 00:10:09,009 - He's cute. - And that's Holiday Season. 254 00:10:09,076 --> 00:10:10,177 - Okay. 255 00:10:10,244 --> 00:10:12,045 - This is messages I sent to Kendrick 256 00:10:12,112 --> 00:10:14,381 to his phone while he was in the hospital. 257 00:10:14,448 --> 00:10:18,719 - Send me a special picture. Show me how your booty looks. 258 00:10:18,785 --> 00:10:20,020 - Body. - Body looks. 259 00:10:20,087 --> 00:10:22,890 - Oh, sorry. [laughter] 260 00:10:22,956 --> 00:10:24,925 - But I think that's what he meant. 261 00:10:24,992 --> 00:10:27,461 Oh, you said, "Is it possible for you 262 00:10:27,528 --> 00:10:29,062 "to send me a pic of you now?" 263 00:10:29,129 --> 00:10:31,064 - All right, let's see the picture with him... 264 00:10:31,131 --> 00:10:33,867 there we go. - That looks like the guy. 265 00:10:33,934 --> 00:10:35,969 - He's definitely in the hospital. 266 00:10:37,504 --> 00:10:39,173 - But then he says, "Send me something sexy on Snap." 267 00:10:39,239 --> 00:10:40,507 - Yeah. 268 00:10:40,574 --> 00:10:42,876 - Seems to find a way to just sort of always 269 00:10:42,943 --> 00:10:45,212 come back to mentioning that he wants nude pics. 270 00:10:45,279 --> 00:10:47,414 - Nudes? - Mm-hmm. 271 00:10:47,481 --> 00:10:49,449 - Do you have any enemies 272 00:10:49,516 --> 00:10:52,152 or anybody that would want to get back at you for anything? 273 00:10:52,219 --> 00:10:55,255 - The only thing I can think of is that 274 00:10:55,322 --> 00:10:58,892 December of last year, me and my best friend 275 00:10:58,959 --> 00:11:01,094 of 15 years--we fell out. 276 00:11:01,161 --> 00:11:03,897 It's a possibility that she's involved. 277 00:11:03,964 --> 00:11:05,599 - And you never heard his voice? 278 00:11:05,666 --> 00:11:07,167 - No. 279 00:11:07,234 --> 00:11:10,204 - Well, I would definitely say she could be a suspect. 280 00:11:11,205 --> 00:11:14,308 - Okay, Gabriela, I don't know what you got us involved in. 281 00:11:14,374 --> 00:11:16,376 - Yeah, I don't know what I got myself involved in. 282 00:11:16,443 --> 00:11:18,412 - So send us all those people's info 283 00:11:18,478 --> 00:11:21,715 just so we can consider them and do some research. 284 00:11:21,782 --> 00:11:23,183 - Okay. - Sit tight, 285 00:11:23,250 --> 00:11:25,219 and we'll get back to you as soon as we have some info. 286 00:11:25,285 --> 00:11:27,821 - All right, thank you so much. I appreciate you guys' help. 287 00:11:27,888 --> 00:11:29,089 [laughter] 288 00:11:29,122 --> 00:11:30,757 both: Bye. [computer chimes] 289 00:11:30,824 --> 00:11:33,794 - Obviously, the whole situation is made up. 290 00:11:33,861 --> 00:11:35,362 - "It's my last night on earth. 291 00:11:35,429 --> 00:11:37,998 Please send me a picture of your ass." 292 00:11:38,098 --> 00:11:40,334 - Yeah. - Give me a break. 293 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,102 - I don't know a lot about what's going on here, 294 00:11:42,135 --> 00:11:43,537 but I definitely know for sure 295 00:11:43,604 --> 00:11:46,273 that this is about to get real messy. 296 00:11:48,349 --> 00:11:50,318 - All right, we got Gabby. She's 29. 297 00:11:50,384 --> 00:11:51,786 She gets this message from 298 00:11:51,852 --> 00:11:54,121 a seemingly sweet guy on Snapchat, Kendrick. 299 00:11:54,188 --> 00:11:56,724 They get closer and closer, but of course, 300 00:11:56,791 --> 00:11:58,826 the day Kendrick's supposed to show up, 301 00:11:58,893 --> 00:12:00,227 he goes ghost. 302 00:12:00,294 --> 00:12:03,064 Gabby gets a Snapchat from a girl named Holiday, 303 00:12:03,130 --> 00:12:05,232 who says he got shot in the chest twice. 304 00:12:05,299 --> 00:12:08,069 He finally texts Gabby and says, "It's not good. 305 00:12:08,135 --> 00:12:09,203 I'm gonna need a surgery." 306 00:12:09,270 --> 00:12:10,538 - I'm gonna need the titty pics. 307 00:12:10,605 --> 00:12:12,073 - Right, "And can you send me some titty pics?" 308 00:12:12,139 --> 00:12:13,774 And then she hears from this guy, Tim, 309 00:12:13,841 --> 00:12:16,477 Kendrick's cousin, who says, "Unfortunately, 310 00:12:16,544 --> 00:12:18,279 Kendrick's surgery does not go well." 311 00:12:18,346 --> 00:12:20,681 Apparently he dies. - Allegedly. 312 00:12:20,748 --> 00:12:23,050 It's like a real-life spam email. 313 00:12:23,117 --> 00:12:25,286 - So that's the situation. We need to figure out 314 00:12:25,353 --> 00:12:27,822 if Kendrick was a real person, A. 315 00:12:27,888 --> 00:12:30,524 If he wasn't, then he probably didn't die. 316 00:12:30,591 --> 00:12:33,494 Then who was she talking to? Could it be Tim? 317 00:12:33,561 --> 00:12:35,429 - Mm-hmm. - Could Holiday 318 00:12:35,496 --> 00:12:38,799 be also Tim or could this all have been 319 00:12:38,866 --> 00:12:41,469 orchestrated by her recently ex-best friend? 320 00:12:41,535 --> 00:12:43,137 There's a lot of monkey business going on here. 321 00:12:43,204 --> 00:12:45,573 - [chuckles] - And mommy called the doctor 322 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:46,774 and the doctor said... 323 00:12:46,841 --> 00:12:49,043 - No more monkeys jumping on the bed. 324 00:12:49,143 --> 00:12:50,778 - That's right. All right, let's see. 325 00:12:50,845 --> 00:12:51,879 Do we have an email here from her? 326 00:12:51,946 --> 00:12:52,880 Yes. 327 00:12:58,853 --> 00:13:00,655 "I don't have any info on his ex 328 00:13:00,721 --> 00:13:03,691 "other than she went by Holiday Season on Snapchat. 329 00:13:03,758 --> 00:13:06,160 "Kendrick's cousin's name is Tim [bleep]. 330 00:13:06,193 --> 00:13:09,497 "He's 33 and also lives in Georgia. 331 00:13:09,563 --> 00:13:10,865 "His phone number. 332 00:13:10,932 --> 00:13:13,567 "My ex-friend's name is Karla [bleep]. 333 00:13:13,634 --> 00:13:16,070 She's blocked me, but here's her Facebook." 334 00:13:16,170 --> 00:13:17,538 And these are the pictures 335 00:13:17,605 --> 00:13:20,041 of Holiday, Tim, and then Kendrick. 336 00:13:20,174 --> 00:13:21,709 All right, so what do you want to start with? 337 00:13:21,776 --> 00:13:23,210 - We start with the pictures. 338 00:13:23,277 --> 00:13:25,279 I feel like this Kendrick guy, 339 00:13:25,346 --> 00:13:27,315 in the pictures, is probably somebody. 340 00:13:27,381 --> 00:13:28,983 - All right, so let's see. 341 00:13:29,050 --> 00:13:31,419 Let's start with the one of him smiling with the chain. 342 00:13:31,485 --> 00:13:33,421 All right, you think we're gonna get any hit? 343 00:13:33,487 --> 00:13:35,590 - Big money, big money, big money. 344 00:13:36,824 --> 00:13:38,426 - Oh, we got it. - [gasps] 345 00:13:38,492 --> 00:13:40,695 - Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. 346 00:13:42,196 --> 00:13:43,864 - What is this? 347 00:13:43,931 --> 00:13:47,401 - This is a Twitter account. Someone must've posted or... 348 00:13:47,468 --> 00:13:48,569 - That's him right there. - What? 349 00:13:48,636 --> 00:13:49,704 It is? - That's him. 350 00:13:49,770 --> 00:13:51,138 That is him. - Are you sure? 351 00:13:51,205 --> 00:13:54,008 - Mynamegucci, yes. - Why doesn't it look... 352 00:13:54,141 --> 00:13:55,409 oh, yeah. - That's him. 353 00:13:55,476 --> 00:13:57,144 - That's him. - That's his account. 354 00:13:57,778 --> 00:14:00,815 - Mynamegucci, model, actor, photographer, wow. 355 00:14:00,881 --> 00:14:01,949 So this guy's like a person. 356 00:14:02,016 --> 00:14:03,551 How many followers does he have? 357 00:14:03,618 --> 00:14:05,152 30,000 people on Twitter. 358 00:14:05,186 --> 00:14:06,187 - He has an Instagram on there. 359 00:14:06,254 --> 00:14:07,622 - Right. 360 00:14:07,688 --> 00:14:09,290 - I told you he was known. 361 00:14:09,357 --> 00:14:11,759 - Here he is. There--that's the picture. 362 00:14:11,826 --> 00:14:13,894 - That's the [bleep] picture. - His profile picture 363 00:14:13,961 --> 00:14:15,997 is one of the pictures he sent Gabby. 364 00:14:16,063 --> 00:14:18,699 So let's message him. - Hey, Gucc. 365 00:14:18,766 --> 00:14:22,169 Somebody been using your pics. [computer chimes] 366 00:14:22,169 --> 00:14:24,372 - All right, it's sent. 367 00:14:24,438 --> 00:14:25,840 - Was he in the hospital? 368 00:14:25,906 --> 00:14:27,575 Like, how did they get that hospital picture? 369 00:14:27,642 --> 00:14:28,909 - It doesn't really seem like the kind 370 00:14:28,976 --> 00:14:31,045 of pic this guy would put up, right? 371 00:14:31,178 --> 00:14:32,580 - Maybe a long time ago? 372 00:14:32,647 --> 00:14:34,382 - Well, that's all for his Instagram. 373 00:14:34,448 --> 00:14:37,051 - Can we run the hospital picture? 374 00:14:37,184 --> 00:14:38,386 - Yeah, let's do that. 375 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,188 All right, hospital pic search. 376 00:14:42,924 --> 00:14:44,859 Nothing, okay. Well, wait a second, okay. 377 00:14:44,926 --> 00:14:47,895 So, good news, the pictures of Kendrick is actually someone 378 00:14:47,962 --> 00:14:50,698 who calls himself Gucci, who's very much alive and well. 379 00:14:50,765 --> 00:14:53,701 Which means the person Gabby's talking to is lying 380 00:14:53,768 --> 00:14:57,138 and most likely is alive. - Mm-hmm. 381 00:14:57,138 --> 00:14:59,807 - Which means that Tim, the cousin, 382 00:14:59,874 --> 00:15:03,210 is also lying. - What about Holiday's picture? 383 00:15:03,277 --> 00:15:05,579 What about that? - Let's see if she comes up. 384 00:15:09,383 --> 00:15:12,687 - Nothing? Let's look at the ex-bestie. 385 00:15:12,753 --> 00:15:16,057 - Let's see. - Karla [bleep]. 386 00:15:16,157 --> 00:15:17,692 - Is private. 387 00:15:19,727 --> 00:15:22,430 - All buttoned up. Nothing here. 388 00:15:22,496 --> 00:15:23,831 What else we got? 389 00:15:23,898 --> 00:15:25,333 - All right, let's do a phone search then. 390 00:15:25,399 --> 00:15:27,902 So Kendrick's phone number. Let's search that. 391 00:15:30,338 --> 00:15:32,573 Oh, yeah. 392 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,610 - The old text app. - Bandwidth.com. 393 00:15:35,676 --> 00:15:37,311 All right. - Plain and simple. 394 00:15:37,378 --> 00:15:39,814 What about Tim's number? 395 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,750 - All right, let's try that. Come on, Tim. 396 00:15:45,186 --> 00:15:48,122 - Timothy [bleep]. - Oh. 397 00:15:48,155 --> 00:15:51,125 Same last name he told her, so that's him. 398 00:15:51,158 --> 00:15:52,526 Yeah, okay. 399 00:15:52,593 --> 00:15:55,997 So he's telling the truth-- his name is Tim [bleep]-- 400 00:15:56,130 --> 00:15:59,267 but look, there are two entries for Timothy [bleep]. 401 00:15:59,333 --> 00:16:01,769 We should be able to find his Facebook page, right? 402 00:16:01,836 --> 00:16:04,272 'Cause maybe he's being himself, you know what I mean? 403 00:16:08,943 --> 00:16:10,578 There aren't that many, 404 00:16:10,645 --> 00:16:12,880 and none of them immediately look like... 405 00:16:12,947 --> 00:16:14,749 - Where does it say he lives? 406 00:16:15,283 --> 00:16:17,318 - Hawkinsville, Georgia. 407 00:16:17,385 --> 00:16:18,286 - Or the other one. 408 00:16:19,820 --> 00:16:21,856 - Oh, this one says... - Greenville. 409 00:16:21,923 --> 00:16:24,025 - South Carolina. - That's where Gabby lives. 410 00:16:24,158 --> 00:16:25,259 - [gasps] 411 00:16:25,326 --> 00:16:26,427 He says he lived in Atlanta, I thought. 412 00:16:26,494 --> 00:16:27,561 - No-- - Oh, Gucci. 413 00:16:27,628 --> 00:16:29,163 - [gasps] What'd he say? 414 00:16:29,230 --> 00:16:31,032 - He said, "What's up? No way, man. 415 00:16:31,165 --> 00:16:33,734 This ain't 'Catfish.'" - Send a pic. 416 00:16:33,801 --> 00:16:36,804 - Yo, Gucci, it's us. We're for real. 417 00:16:36,871 --> 00:16:38,639 I'm gonna send you a link. Join our Zoom, all right? 418 00:16:38,706 --> 00:16:40,441 - Right now. Perfect. 419 00:16:40,508 --> 00:16:43,277 - In the meantime, let's look up Tim, Greenville. 420 00:16:45,713 --> 00:16:46,948 [smacks lips] No. 421 00:16:47,014 --> 00:16:48,015 [computer chimes] - Someone's in Zoom. 422 00:16:48,115 --> 00:16:49,016 - Oh, [bleep]. 423 00:16:49,116 --> 00:16:51,319 What's up, Gucci? - Yo, hey. 424 00:16:51,385 --> 00:16:52,887 I can't believe this, man. There's no way. 425 00:16:52,954 --> 00:16:54,422 No way. - Well, wait a second. 426 00:16:54,488 --> 00:16:56,324 We got to tell you what's going on, all right? 427 00:16:56,390 --> 00:16:57,758 You got a minute? - Yes. 428 00:16:57,825 --> 00:17:00,027 - All right, so we're trying to help a girl 429 00:17:00,127 --> 00:17:02,630 who was talking to this guy. - Mm-hmm. 430 00:17:02,697 --> 00:17:03,898 - He said his name was Kendrick, 431 00:17:03,965 --> 00:17:06,400 and then, three weeks ago, he died, okay? 432 00:17:06,467 --> 00:17:10,471 We then just searched the pictures of Kendrick, 433 00:17:10,538 --> 00:17:13,007 and it brought us to you. - What? 434 00:17:13,140 --> 00:17:14,842 - Tell us how life is beyond the grave. 435 00:17:14,909 --> 00:17:17,645 - Right. - [laughs] 436 00:17:17,712 --> 00:17:19,280 - And one of the pictures they'd used 437 00:17:19,347 --> 00:17:21,682 was a picture of you in a hospital bed. 438 00:17:21,749 --> 00:17:23,284 This--is this you? 439 00:17:25,553 --> 00:17:26,687 - No. What the-- 440 00:17:26,754 --> 00:17:29,423 [laughter] Nah. 441 00:17:29,490 --> 00:17:31,292 - Okay, so that's not you. - Never [bleep]. 442 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:32,627 - All right, well, I didn't know. 443 00:17:32,693 --> 00:17:34,295 I mean... - I thought it kind of looked 444 00:17:34,362 --> 00:17:35,529 like it could've been you. 445 00:17:35,596 --> 00:17:36,797 - Okay, so listen. 446 00:17:36,864 --> 00:17:38,899 So we appreciate you chatting with us. 447 00:17:38,966 --> 00:17:42,370 It's going to come as quite a shock to Gabby 448 00:17:42,436 --> 00:17:45,539 that Kendrick was sending her pictures of you 449 00:17:45,606 --> 00:17:46,807 and you never died. 450 00:17:46,874 --> 00:17:48,109 So if--could you make, 451 00:17:48,175 --> 00:17:50,278 like, a really quick little video? 452 00:17:50,344 --> 00:17:52,213 - Yeah, I got you. - And I appreciate it, man. 453 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,915 It was good to meet you. - I'm glad to help. 454 00:17:53,981 --> 00:17:56,317 - Later, man. - Bye. 455 00:17:57,118 --> 00:18:00,988 Well, there goes it. - I mean, here's what's wild. 456 00:18:01,122 --> 00:18:04,125 Whoever Gabby's talking to came up with the idea 457 00:18:04,191 --> 00:18:05,426 to kill him off... - Mm-hmm. 458 00:18:05,493 --> 00:18:07,428 - And then needed to find a picture of someone 459 00:18:07,495 --> 00:18:10,598 who looked like Gucci and did a pretty good job. 460 00:18:10,665 --> 00:18:13,768 - And found--they did--I--I was convinced. 461 00:18:13,834 --> 00:18:15,136 - Yeah. Well, so now, 462 00:18:15,202 --> 00:18:18,272 the only person that feels real is Tim. 463 00:18:18,339 --> 00:18:20,741 Tim is definitely our number-one suspect. 464 00:18:20,808 --> 00:18:23,144 - Mm-hmm, absolutely. 465 00:18:23,210 --> 00:18:26,147 Do we think that the friend that could possibly have 466 00:18:26,213 --> 00:18:29,984 a vendetta against Gabby is connected to Tim [bleep]? 467 00:18:30,051 --> 00:18:31,719 Because the phone number did come back 468 00:18:31,786 --> 00:18:34,522 to Greenville, South Carolina, which is where Gabby lives. 469 00:18:34,589 --> 00:18:36,457 - I mean, it's possible. 470 00:18:37,158 --> 00:18:38,726 I think we got to show the video of Gucci 471 00:18:38,793 --> 00:18:41,729 so that she can relieve herself of whatever sadness or guilt 472 00:18:41,796 --> 00:18:43,664 she may be feeling about his death. 473 00:18:43,731 --> 00:18:44,932 - Mm-hmm. - And then, I think, 474 00:18:44,999 --> 00:18:46,434 we reach out to Tim. 475 00:18:46,500 --> 00:18:47,768 I mean, 'cause he's clearly 476 00:18:47,835 --> 00:18:49,804 the sort of continuation of Kendrick. 477 00:18:49,870 --> 00:18:51,105 So if we're gonna get to the truth, 478 00:18:51,172 --> 00:18:53,307 we're gonna have to go through Tim. 479 00:18:55,927 --> 00:18:57,361 - All right, so we have to show Gabby Gucci... 480 00:18:57,428 --> 00:18:58,562 - Mm-hmm. 481 00:18:58,629 --> 00:19:00,197 - Which is gonna be a lot for her. 482 00:19:00,264 --> 00:19:02,667 - How often do you get the opportunity 483 00:19:02,733 --> 00:19:05,102 to tell someone, "He has risen"? 484 00:19:05,670 --> 00:19:07,705 I feel like it's resurrection Sunday. 485 00:19:07,772 --> 00:19:09,774 - And Gucci hasn't sent a video yet. 486 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,108 We'll see if that comes in. 487 00:19:11,175 --> 00:19:13,110 We've definitely got our work cut out for us. 488 00:19:13,177 --> 00:19:14,679 - All right, well... - You ready? 489 00:19:14,745 --> 00:19:16,180 - Ready. 490 00:19:17,481 --> 00:19:19,550 ♪ ♪ 491 00:19:19,617 --> 00:19:22,553 - Let's check in with Gabby, see what she's up to. 492 00:19:22,620 --> 00:19:24,021 - What's up? 493 00:19:24,088 --> 00:19:28,025 - We've got some good news and some bad news. 494 00:19:28,092 --> 00:19:29,293 - That's how you want to start it off? 495 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:31,195 [computer chimes] - "Oh, lawd." 496 00:19:31,262 --> 00:19:32,363 - Okay. [computer chimes] 497 00:19:32,430 --> 00:19:35,299 - Wait, oh, hey. - New hair, who this? 498 00:19:35,366 --> 00:19:38,469 - Hey. Yeah, this is all natural. 499 00:19:38,536 --> 00:19:41,305 [laughs] - I love it. 500 00:19:41,372 --> 00:19:42,506 - Thank you. 501 00:19:42,573 --> 00:19:44,442 - What's with the broken heart pendant? 502 00:19:44,508 --> 00:19:47,578 - Oh because either way, I feel like I'm still getting 503 00:19:47,645 --> 00:19:49,580 the [bleep] end of the stick, 'cause if he's real, 504 00:19:49,647 --> 00:19:50,781 he's really dead. 505 00:19:50,848 --> 00:19:51,916 If it's all fake, 506 00:19:51,983 --> 00:19:54,185 then that's still [bleep] up. 507 00:19:54,251 --> 00:19:55,953 - Well... 508 00:19:56,020 --> 00:19:57,588 - I guess we should just dive in. 509 00:19:57,655 --> 00:20:01,592 So the first thing that we did was we did an image search, 510 00:20:01,659 --> 00:20:04,128 and we got a hit. 511 00:20:04,195 --> 00:20:06,964 This Twitter page. - Okay. 512 00:20:07,031 --> 00:20:10,034 - And when we looked at the pictures of this person, 513 00:20:10,101 --> 00:20:12,303 we noticed it's the guy in the pictures 514 00:20:12,370 --> 00:20:16,040 that you've been was Kendrick. - Okay, so he's real. 515 00:20:16,107 --> 00:20:20,011 - Yes but this person goes by Gucci. 516 00:20:20,077 --> 00:20:22,346 He calls himself a model, actor, photographer. 517 00:20:22,413 --> 00:20:25,816 Lives in Atlanta and Houston. He's got an Instagram, 518 00:20:25,883 --> 00:20:27,918 25,000 followers. 519 00:20:27,985 --> 00:20:31,022 And so we just reached out to him on Instagram. 520 00:20:31,088 --> 00:20:34,325 And we had a brief FaceTime call with him. 521 00:20:34,392 --> 00:20:38,529 He's very much alive, and he doesn't know who you are. 522 00:20:38,562 --> 00:20:45,536 ♪ ♪ 523 00:20:47,772 --> 00:20:49,240 - [clears throat] 524 00:20:51,142 --> 00:20:53,844 Just to think that I mourned over a death 525 00:20:53,911 --> 00:20:56,814 of somebody that's still alive, that's cruel. 526 00:20:57,949 --> 00:21:00,518 I mean, I'm glad he's alive, 527 00:21:00,584 --> 00:21:04,522 but I was kind of hoping he was dead, to be honest. 528 00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:08,859 It would've been a much easier pill to swallow. 529 00:21:09,627 --> 00:21:11,062 That's crazy. 530 00:21:11,128 --> 00:21:14,732 I was not expecting to cry. [chuckles] 531 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:16,968 So, uh, what now? 532 00:21:17,034 --> 00:21:18,803 ♪ ♪ 533 00:21:18,869 --> 00:21:20,504 - So this, of course, 534 00:21:20,538 --> 00:21:22,106 was the first piece of the puzzle, right? 535 00:21:22,173 --> 00:21:24,408 Is Kendrick the guy in the photos? 536 00:21:24,508 --> 00:21:27,678 No. So with this information now, 537 00:21:27,745 --> 00:21:30,648 we started thinking if we know Kendrick lied about the photos, 538 00:21:30,715 --> 00:21:33,818 that means that Holiday is lying, 539 00:21:33,884 --> 00:21:37,254 and it also means that Tim is also lying. 540 00:21:37,321 --> 00:21:40,024 Interestingly, when we ran Tim's number, 541 00:21:40,091 --> 00:21:42,827 that came back to Tim [bleep], 542 00:21:42,893 --> 00:21:45,263 the same name that he told you. 543 00:21:45,329 --> 00:21:46,631 Well that got us thinking, "Well, okay, well maybe 544 00:21:46,697 --> 00:21:48,399 he's being honest..." - Mm-hmm. 545 00:21:48,532 --> 00:21:50,801 - "about what his name is," but here's what's interesting. 546 00:21:50,868 --> 00:21:54,071 There are two potential owners for this phone number. 547 00:21:54,138 --> 00:21:55,806 The first one's in Georgia. 548 00:21:55,873 --> 00:21:57,208 - Right, that's what he told me. 549 00:21:57,275 --> 00:21:59,777 - But then, when we look at the other owner, 550 00:21:59,844 --> 00:22:02,513 look what changes. - Greenville, South Carolina. 551 00:22:02,580 --> 00:22:04,348 - Which is where you live. 552 00:22:04,482 --> 00:22:06,050 That made us realize...hold on a second. 553 00:22:06,117 --> 00:22:10,655 So here's this guy who apparently lived in your town, 554 00:22:10,721 --> 00:22:13,758 and then just coincidentally, his cousin Kendrick, 555 00:22:13,824 --> 00:22:17,194 who now turns out is totally fake, finds you on Snapchat, 556 00:22:17,261 --> 00:22:18,696 falls in love with you. 557 00:22:18,763 --> 00:22:22,333 That's just starting to feel a little too coincidental. 558 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,834 - Definitely. 559 00:22:23,901 --> 00:22:26,404 - Is it possible that you may have met Tim before? 560 00:22:26,504 --> 00:22:29,040 Was there anybody that you met maybe at work, 561 00:22:29,106 --> 00:22:32,643 maybe at the [bleep] CVS... - [laughs] 562 00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:35,146 - That tried to talk to you that you may have been like, 563 00:22:35,212 --> 00:22:37,348 "[groans] no. Like, not into you"? 564 00:22:37,415 --> 00:22:38,816 - I'm not sure. 565 00:22:38,883 --> 00:22:43,187 I tried to contact Tim after Kendrick's celebration, 566 00:22:43,254 --> 00:22:45,156 and I never got a response back from him. 567 00:22:45,222 --> 00:22:47,959 - Which is weird, because why introduce yourself... 568 00:22:48,025 --> 00:22:50,361 - Right. - Potentially as the real you 569 00:22:50,428 --> 00:22:52,697 and then not do anything with it? 570 00:22:52,763 --> 00:22:53,798 - Right. [computer chimes] 571 00:22:53,864 --> 00:22:55,333 Oh, here we go. 572 00:22:55,466 --> 00:22:58,502 Gucci just sent a video that he made for us to show you. 573 00:22:58,569 --> 00:22:59,570 I'm gonna send it to you right now. 574 00:23:00,638 --> 00:23:02,073 - Hey, what's up, Gabby? 575 00:23:02,139 --> 00:23:04,108 I'm sorry to tell you that 576 00:23:04,175 --> 00:23:06,310 the person you were talking to was not me. 577 00:23:06,377 --> 00:23:08,212 I'm sorry. That was a catfish. 578 00:23:08,279 --> 00:23:11,082 This is the real me, Gucci. 579 00:23:11,148 --> 00:23:12,483 And, you know... 580 00:23:14,585 --> 00:23:18,756 ♪ ♪ 581 00:23:18,823 --> 00:23:20,658 - Why target me? 582 00:23:21,792 --> 00:23:23,527 I'm just a regular person. 583 00:23:24,395 --> 00:23:25,496 - Yeah, it's confusing. 584 00:23:25,529 --> 00:23:29,500 - ♪ I don't know what to do ♪ 585 00:23:29,500 --> 00:23:32,203 - The fact that they really had to, like, 586 00:23:32,270 --> 00:23:36,140 get my feelings involved to kill somebody off, 587 00:23:36,207 --> 00:23:38,242 that's cruel. 588 00:23:38,309 --> 00:23:40,077 - ♪ Come, feel, smile ♪ 589 00:23:40,144 --> 00:23:43,214 ♪ ♪ 590 00:23:43,281 --> 00:23:44,682 - Can I have a moment? 591 00:23:44,749 --> 00:23:45,683 - Sure. 592 00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:47,518 ♪ ♪ 593 00:23:47,551 --> 00:23:50,621 - ♪ Can I tell you I love you ♪ 594 00:23:50,688 --> 00:23:52,390 ♪ And still ♪ 595 00:23:52,523 --> 00:23:53,924 - She had already dealt with him being dead, 596 00:23:53,991 --> 00:23:56,460 so now it's like she's gotta deal with him not being dead 597 00:23:56,527 --> 00:23:57,962 and then confirming 598 00:23:58,029 --> 00:24:00,564 that the whole relationship wasn't even real. 599 00:24:00,631 --> 00:24:02,066 - It's really [bleep] up. 600 00:24:02,133 --> 00:24:06,938 - ♪ I don't know what to do ♪ 601 00:24:07,004 --> 00:24:09,573 ♪ And neither do you ♪ 602 00:24:12,985 --> 00:24:14,320 - It's almost like we don't know which one is worse. 603 00:24:14,386 --> 00:24:18,257 Is it worse if he was dead, or is it worse now? 604 00:24:18,324 --> 00:24:19,692 - She had already dealt with him being dead. 605 00:24:19,758 --> 00:24:20,893 - Right. - So now it's like, 606 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,428 she's gotta deal with him not being dead, 607 00:24:22,494 --> 00:24:25,731 which means that the whole relationship wasn't even real. 608 00:24:25,798 --> 00:24:31,136 - She's taking this way harder than I think she even expected, 609 00:24:31,203 --> 00:24:34,640 but I think that we should do what we can 610 00:24:34,707 --> 00:24:37,242 while we can to figure it out. 611 00:24:37,309 --> 00:24:39,111 - I guess we have Tim's number. 612 00:24:39,178 --> 00:24:40,412 We know that's his number. 613 00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:42,548 - Right. - So we should just text him. 614 00:24:42,614 --> 00:24:43,515 Right? - Mm-hmm. 615 00:24:43,582 --> 00:24:45,150 Right, let me message Tim. 616 00:24:46,385 --> 00:24:48,988 Hey, Tim, this is Nev from "Catfish." 617 00:24:49,054 --> 00:24:50,489 I'm so sorry about Kendrick 618 00:24:50,556 --> 00:24:53,225 and are trying to help you and Gabby move forward 619 00:24:53,292 --> 00:24:55,361 and just wanted to connect you guys officially. 620 00:24:55,427 --> 00:24:57,062 Please get back to me ASAP, thanks. 621 00:24:57,129 --> 00:24:58,864 - That'll do it. [phone chimes] 622 00:24:58,931 --> 00:25:01,333 - All right, well--oh. Well, wait a second. 623 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,571 So--okay, so Tim saw and read. - Mm-hmm. 624 00:25:05,638 --> 00:25:07,139 - So that's something. 625 00:25:07,206 --> 00:25:09,642 At least we know that he got the message. 626 00:25:09,708 --> 00:25:11,143 - But no response, Tim? 627 00:25:11,210 --> 00:25:12,611 - But no response. [phone chimes] 628 00:25:12,678 --> 00:25:13,712 both: Oh. 629 00:25:13,779 --> 00:25:15,147 - What? - Laurannette. 630 00:25:15,214 --> 00:25:16,315 [gasps] 631 00:25:16,382 --> 00:25:17,616 - Laurannette wants to talk. Uh-oh. 632 00:25:17,683 --> 00:25:19,685 - That's suspicious. 633 00:25:19,752 --> 00:25:21,820 It's not Laurannette. She wouldn't do that. 634 00:25:21,887 --> 00:25:23,255 It's not Laurannette. 635 00:25:23,322 --> 00:25:25,090 - Oh, my God. This has happened before. 636 00:25:25,157 --> 00:25:27,893 [computer chimes] 637 00:25:28,961 --> 00:25:31,163 - Hey. - Hi. 638 00:25:31,230 --> 00:25:34,667 - Hey, what's up? So you're at Gabby's? 639 00:25:34,733 --> 00:25:36,035 - This is my house. 640 00:25:36,101 --> 00:25:38,304 - Oh, right, right. Is Gabby still there? 641 00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:40,639 - She stepped outside. She was upset. 642 00:25:40,706 --> 00:25:42,041 both: Yeah. 643 00:25:42,107 --> 00:25:44,076 - And she explained everything? 644 00:25:44,143 --> 00:25:47,246 - Yeah, so I'm, like, a little bit in shock. 645 00:25:47,313 --> 00:25:49,181 I just wanted to at least talk to you guys 646 00:25:49,248 --> 00:25:51,016 'cause, you know, like, I be having her back. 647 00:25:51,083 --> 00:25:52,551 I want you guys to have her back too. 648 00:25:52,618 --> 00:25:54,553 All this stuff--she already been through stuff, 649 00:25:54,586 --> 00:25:56,088 and now she's going through this. 650 00:25:56,155 --> 00:25:58,290 And it's, like, unnecessary. You know what I mean? 651 00:25:58,357 --> 00:26:02,061 I know... - You're with them? 652 00:26:03,796 --> 00:26:05,764 - Hey. - I'm back. 653 00:26:05,831 --> 00:26:07,466 - Okay. 654 00:26:08,267 --> 00:26:10,436 We were just talking about you. - Yeah. 655 00:26:10,569 --> 00:26:12,137 - Oh, I know. 656 00:26:12,204 --> 00:26:13,339 Basically, I've just come to the conclusion, 657 00:26:13,405 --> 00:26:14,573 at the end of the day, I want to know 658 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,543 the truth behind everything, 659 00:26:17,609 --> 00:26:19,111 the reasoning behind it, 660 00:26:19,178 --> 00:26:21,113 and, you know, the big question is why. 661 00:26:21,180 --> 00:26:22,881 - Well, have you heard anything from Tim? 662 00:26:22,948 --> 00:26:24,550 Or anyone? - No. 663 00:26:24,616 --> 00:26:27,152 - Okay 'cause we sent him a text after we hung up with you. 664 00:26:27,219 --> 00:26:29,421 And he read it, so I wasn't sure 665 00:26:29,521 --> 00:26:31,156 if maybe he would've reached out to you. 666 00:26:31,223 --> 00:26:33,325 - I mean, should I try to reach out to him? 667 00:26:33,392 --> 00:26:36,195 - Couldn't hurt if you did just to let him know 668 00:26:36,261 --> 00:26:37,696 that this is serious and, like, 669 00:26:37,763 --> 00:26:39,531 you know, you would really like to speak with him. 670 00:26:39,565 --> 00:26:44,436 - Laurannette, to answer what you were talking to us about. 671 00:26:44,536 --> 00:26:46,205 We got you. 672 00:26:47,606 --> 00:26:48,907 - Thank you. 673 00:26:51,276 --> 00:26:53,712 - So I texted him. - I hope he writes back. 674 00:26:53,779 --> 00:26:55,080 - Mm-hmm. 675 00:26:55,147 --> 00:26:56,949 - All right, I guess it's just a waiting game. 676 00:26:57,016 --> 00:26:59,018 It's been delivered. 677 00:26:59,084 --> 00:27:02,888 - Any last advice for your cousin? 678 00:27:02,955 --> 00:27:04,923 - I want you to be strong 679 00:27:04,990 --> 00:27:07,059 and if you have feelings, let them out. 680 00:27:07,126 --> 00:27:08,927 It's okay. Don't cry. 681 00:27:08,994 --> 00:27:10,062 You gonna make me cry. Stop. 682 00:27:10,129 --> 00:27:11,764 - Go away. I'm okay. 683 00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:12,865 - Okay, now I gotta leave. 684 00:27:12,931 --> 00:27:15,000 You gonna make me cry. - Okay. 685 00:27:15,067 --> 00:27:17,069 - I'm done with y'all. [laughter] 686 00:27:17,136 --> 00:27:19,138 - A family of criers. - I know. 687 00:27:19,204 --> 00:27:22,775 - First the tissues in the car. - I want to be G. 688 00:27:22,841 --> 00:27:24,910 - We said that but don't-- - I be crying too. 689 00:27:24,977 --> 00:27:26,345 That's all I do. - Okay, bye, Nev. 690 00:27:26,412 --> 00:27:27,379 Bye, Kamie. 691 00:27:27,513 --> 00:27:29,515 - Bye. Thanks, Laurannette. 692 00:27:29,548 --> 00:27:32,818 - Look out for her. - The--we will. 693 00:27:32,885 --> 00:27:35,220 Okay, nothing on text? 694 00:27:36,555 --> 00:27:37,623 - Let's see. 695 00:27:38,824 --> 00:27:39,959 No. 696 00:27:40,025 --> 00:27:42,227 - So let me send one more message to Tim. 697 00:27:51,637 --> 00:27:56,909 I feel like she deserves that, don't you? 698 00:27:56,976 --> 00:27:59,011 - Don't you? Mm. 699 00:27:59,078 --> 00:28:01,080 [computer chimes] Turn it up. 700 00:28:02,214 --> 00:28:03,382 [computer chimes] 701 00:28:03,449 --> 00:28:05,050 [gasps] - Oh, he wrote back. 702 00:28:08,253 --> 00:28:10,089 - "You're right. Kendrick isn't dead." 703 00:28:10,155 --> 00:28:12,524 Oh, Jesus. Yeah, we know that. 704 00:28:12,591 --> 00:28:16,195 - We know, sweetie. - I'm so nervous. 705 00:28:18,797 --> 00:28:20,566 Yes, duh. 706 00:28:20,633 --> 00:28:22,334 What the [bleep] you talking about? 707 00:28:22,401 --> 00:28:24,269 If you're getting a message from Nev from "Catfish," 708 00:28:24,336 --> 00:28:25,571 you got caught. - [laughs] 709 00:28:25,638 --> 00:28:27,506 It's time to clear some [bleep] up. 710 00:28:27,539 --> 00:28:29,208 What are you saying? - Damn. 711 00:28:29,274 --> 00:28:31,010 [computer chimes] How do we do that? 712 00:28:31,076 --> 00:28:32,111 Okay. 713 00:28:32,177 --> 00:28:33,212 - I think the best way 714 00:28:33,278 --> 00:28:34,680 would be face to face. 715 00:28:34,747 --> 00:28:36,181 We're in a Zoom. 716 00:28:36,248 --> 00:28:38,751 No judgments. Just looking for the truth. 717 00:28:38,817 --> 00:28:40,319 - Who said nothing about no judgment? 718 00:28:40,386 --> 00:28:41,520 I don't know why you lying to him. 719 00:28:41,587 --> 00:28:42,521 Send him the link. - Oh, I'm judging. 720 00:28:42,588 --> 00:28:44,857 Damn, skippy. [laughter] 721 00:28:44,923 --> 00:28:46,125 - Send him... 722 00:28:47,326 --> 00:28:48,994 - These three dots are the most 723 00:28:49,061 --> 00:28:50,796 anxious thing in the world, I swear. 724 00:28:50,863 --> 00:28:53,232 ♪ ♪ 725 00:28:53,299 --> 00:28:55,634 [computer chimes] - "Is there a link?" 726 00:28:55,701 --> 00:28:56,635 - All right. 727 00:28:58,771 --> 00:29:00,406 [computer chimes] 728 00:29:00,539 --> 00:29:02,441 All right, so are you--so if he clicks on that right now, 729 00:29:02,541 --> 00:29:03,909 he's gonna come in. Are you okay with that? 730 00:29:03,976 --> 00:29:06,078 - Oi, yes. [chuckles] 731 00:29:06,145 --> 00:29:07,546 - Do you think that there's any way 732 00:29:07,546 --> 00:29:09,548 that your ex-best friend is working with Tim? 733 00:29:09,581 --> 00:29:11,216 - Oh, if it's somebody I know, 734 00:29:11,283 --> 00:29:13,285 I'm showing them my monkey ass, okay? 735 00:29:13,352 --> 00:29:15,487 I want all peace and harmony for every [bleep] body, 736 00:29:15,521 --> 00:29:16,655 but the thing, is don't get 737 00:29:16,722 --> 00:29:18,357 that [bleep] with that [bleep] [bleep]. 738 00:29:18,490 --> 00:29:21,060 - Period. - If it's somebody I know, 739 00:29:21,126 --> 00:29:23,362 I mean, like, bitch, meet me outside. 740 00:29:23,495 --> 00:29:24,797 We in the same city. [computer chimes] 741 00:29:24,863 --> 00:29:25,764 Oh, [bleep]. - Oh. 742 00:29:27,566 --> 00:29:29,301 - Oh, my God. I don't even know. 743 00:29:29,368 --> 00:29:31,070 [chuckles] - Is someone here? 744 00:29:31,837 --> 00:29:34,239 Oh, hello. 745 00:29:38,551 --> 00:29:40,452 [computer chimes] 746 00:29:41,155 --> 00:29:43,188 - Is someone here? 747 00:29:43,386 --> 00:29:46,221 Hello--oh, hello. 748 00:29:46,221 --> 00:29:47,726 - Hello, hello. 749 00:29:47,726 --> 00:29:50,320 - You’re Tim, I presume? - Yeah. 750 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,188 - Well, welcome. This is Gabby, 751 00:29:52,188 --> 00:29:54,726 I think as you already know. 752 00:29:56,419 --> 00:29:58,726 And, uh, we’re just trying to clear this up 753 00:29:58,726 --> 00:30:02,485 because there’s been a lot going on these past few months 754 00:30:02,485 --> 00:30:03,650 between Gabby and Kendrick 755 00:30:03,650 --> 00:30:05,759 and then you and then this other girl, Holiday. 756 00:30:05,759 --> 00:30:08,320 And we’re looking for someone who might be able to help us, 757 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,452 and we were hoping that was you. 758 00:30:11,551 --> 00:30:13,617 - Okay, um... 759 00:30:14,155 --> 00:30:15,650 what would you like to know? 760 00:30:15,650 --> 00:30:18,188 - Well, we know Kendrick isn’t dead. 761 00:30:18,188 --> 00:30:20,188 So how about you just start there? 762 00:30:20,188 --> 00:30:21,551 - Um... 763 00:30:23,221 --> 00:30:25,518 All right. Uh, let’s see. 764 00:30:25,518 --> 00:30:26,584 How should I start? 765 00:30:26,584 --> 00:30:29,023 - Did you make up Holiday Season as well, 766 00:30:29,023 --> 00:30:30,254 the ex-girlfriend? 767 00:30:30,254 --> 00:30:31,584 - I made up everybody. 768 00:30:31,584 --> 00:30:35,023 - Are you real? Is your real name Tim [bleep]? 769 00:30:35,023 --> 00:30:36,726 - Yeah. - You sure? 770 00:30:36,726 --> 00:30:39,254 - Mm-hmm. - So you are the person 771 00:30:39,254 --> 00:30:40,584 who’s been talking to Gabby 772 00:30:40,584 --> 00:30:45,419 as both Holiday and Kendrick the whole time? 773 00:30:45,419 --> 00:30:46,650 - Yep. 774 00:30:46,650 --> 00:30:49,792 - And, so tell us, what--how and why did you 775 00:30:49,792 --> 00:30:51,287 start talking to Gabby? 776 00:30:51,287 --> 00:30:54,320 - Just made the account to, like, do research. 777 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,254 I’m writing a story, so I felt like 778 00:30:57,254 --> 00:31:02,650 I needed something real and raw to go off on. 779 00:31:02,650 --> 00:31:06,650 So I pretty much--I didn’t really pick her. 780 00:31:06,650 --> 00:31:08,452 She just, kind of, like chose herself 781 00:31:08,452 --> 00:31:11,518 ’cause she kept engaging into the conversations. 782 00:31:11,518 --> 00:31:13,320 - Uh, uh, uh, uh. Nah, nah. 783 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,759 We not gonna say that you didn’t pick me [bleep], 784 00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:17,617 ’cause you definitely picked me. 785 00:31:17,617 --> 00:31:19,122 You hit me up first. 786 00:31:19,122 --> 00:31:21,386 You found me. You found my Snapchat. 787 00:31:21,386 --> 00:31:23,254 So how the [bleep] did you find me? 788 00:31:23,254 --> 00:31:25,650 - I did a search, just random people. 789 00:31:25,650 --> 00:31:27,518 - You mean you just, like, typed in a name... 790 00:31:27,518 --> 00:31:29,089 - Mm-hmm. - And just whoever came up, 791 00:31:29,089 --> 00:31:30,452 you just friend requested? - Added. 792 00:31:30,452 --> 00:31:33,320 - Or added. - Yeah, and you the only one 793 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,485 that kept talking, so... - So I’m just a story for you? 794 00:31:37,485 --> 00:31:39,320 What the [bleep] is your story about? 795 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,320 - It’s like a love triangle. Pretty much what was going on 796 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,825 between Holiday, Kendrick, and yourself. 797 00:31:44,825 --> 00:31:48,792 I was just trying out to see how you would react with them. 798 00:31:48,792 --> 00:31:50,353 - So basically, I’m a [bleep] guinea pig 799 00:31:50,353 --> 00:31:52,551 for your little wack-ass story? 800 00:31:52,551 --> 00:31:55,518 - [blows raspberry] 801 00:31:59,584 --> 00:32:01,122 - You lied to me! 802 00:32:01,122 --> 00:32:03,759 You had me emotionally invested in somebody, 803 00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:06,188 killed him off, and you seen me 804 00:32:06,188 --> 00:32:09,452 through Kendrick’s Snapchat, crying on Snapchat, "RIP, 805 00:32:09,452 --> 00:32:11,759 rest in peace," and all this bull[bleep]. 806 00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:13,650 And you think that’s [bleep] funny? 807 00:32:13,650 --> 00:32:15,617 You literally [bleep] my emotions, 808 00:32:15,617 --> 00:32:16,759 and then you came in as yourself. 809 00:32:16,759 --> 00:32:20,650 Why did you come in as yourself, as his cousin? 810 00:32:20,650 --> 00:32:23,792 - ’Cause honestly, like, to clear the air. 811 00:32:23,792 --> 00:32:25,825 - But you didn’t clear the air. You told me that you guys 812 00:32:25,825 --> 00:32:29,726 were gonna have a cremation and then a celebration 813 00:32:29,726 --> 00:32:32,386 and then, like, all this extra stuff. 814 00:32:32,386 --> 00:32:35,386 And the things Kendrick said to you about me. 815 00:32:35,386 --> 00:32:37,254 Like, I don’t understand. 816 00:32:37,254 --> 00:32:39,419 - Let’s start with you. - All right. 817 00:32:39,419 --> 00:32:40,891 - Who are you? Where are you? 818 00:32:40,891 --> 00:32:42,518 How old are you? - I’m Tim. 819 00:32:42,518 --> 00:32:47,792 I am 33. I am at my house right now. 820 00:32:47,792 --> 00:32:49,858 - In South Carolina? - No. 821 00:32:49,858 --> 00:32:51,419 - You’re in Georgia. - Yes. 822 00:32:51,419 --> 00:32:53,693 - Did you used to live in Greenville? 823 00:32:53,693 --> 00:32:54,759 - Yes. 824 00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:56,485 - When you told Gabby 825 00:32:56,485 --> 00:32:58,188 Kendrick was coming to meet her... 826 00:32:58,188 --> 00:33:00,254 - Mm-hmm. - Was there any part of you 827 00:33:00,254 --> 00:33:03,287 that actually thought you might go and meet her, 828 00:33:03,287 --> 00:33:05,518 that you wanted to go and meet her? 829 00:33:05,518 --> 00:33:07,726 - No. - So you never felt any 830 00:33:07,726 --> 00:33:12,452 attraction to or interest in Gabby romantically? 831 00:33:12,452 --> 00:33:13,419 - None. - So that was all 832 00:33:13,419 --> 00:33:17,617 just totally part of whatever the story was for you. 833 00:33:17,617 --> 00:33:18,254 - Yeah. 834 00:33:18,254 --> 00:33:20,353 [keys clacking] [computer chimes] 835 00:33:20,353 --> 00:33:24,792 - How soon before did you have the sort of plan 836 00:33:24,792 --> 00:33:27,188 that you were going to kill off Kendrick? 837 00:33:27,188 --> 00:33:32,188 - It came to me, like, as soon as she wanted to see Kendrick. 838 00:33:32,188 --> 00:33:34,419 - Right. - So, right then and there, 839 00:33:34,419 --> 00:33:36,584 I thought about ways to end it. 840 00:33:36,584 --> 00:33:41,518 And I felt like the best way was to kill the character. 841 00:33:42,891 --> 00:33:47,452 - Do you feel any kind of remorse whatsoever? 842 00:33:47,452 --> 00:33:48,924 - Um... 843 00:33:49,858 --> 00:33:52,858 Not really ’cause it’s not real. 844 00:33:53,551 --> 00:33:55,858 - It wasn’t real for you? Fine. 845 00:33:55,858 --> 00:33:56,990 It was real for me. 846 00:33:56,990 --> 00:33:59,825 I’m real. My feelings are real. 847 00:33:59,825 --> 00:34:01,419 The tears I shed for a person 848 00:34:01,419 --> 00:34:03,386 who I thought was dead was real. 849 00:34:03,386 --> 00:34:04,858 I cared about somebody, 850 00:34:04,858 --> 00:34:07,551 and the next thing you know, he’s dead. 851 00:34:07,551 --> 00:34:10,726 - You certainly understood that she was having these feelings, 852 00:34:10,726 --> 00:34:12,518 which is the whole point of why you did this 853 00:34:12,518 --> 00:34:15,584 ’cause you wanted to know what someone going through this 854 00:34:15,584 --> 00:34:18,023 would do and how they would feel. 855 00:34:18,023 --> 00:34:18,726 - Right. 856 00:34:18,726 --> 00:34:20,650 - It might not be real for your plot 857 00:34:20,650 --> 00:34:22,485 and your storyline and your book, 858 00:34:22,485 --> 00:34:26,452 but it’s real for her because she’s a real human being. 859 00:34:26,452 --> 00:34:29,759 - I feel embarrassed and humiliated. 860 00:34:29,759 --> 00:34:31,858 And it’s not even that you want a relationship. 861 00:34:31,858 --> 00:34:35,551 It’s the fact that you’re doing this for a stupid-ass research. 862 00:34:35,551 --> 00:34:38,056 - I almost--Gabby, I’m sorry. Can you pause, Gabby? 863 00:34:38,056 --> 00:34:41,858 I almost, like, don’t even want you to pour your heart out 864 00:34:41,858 --> 00:34:45,089 right now because something tells me that Tim is, like, 865 00:34:45,089 --> 00:34:48,023 getting off on this [bleep], and I just can’t watch it. 866 00:34:48,023 --> 00:34:51,419 So, Tim, if you want to apologize, apologize. 867 00:34:51,419 --> 00:34:52,957 If you don’t, don’t. 868 00:34:53,858 --> 00:34:55,386 - Um... 869 00:34:56,386 --> 00:34:59,386 [keys clacking] [computer chimes] 870 00:34:59,650 --> 00:35:01,419 [blows raspberry] 871 00:35:04,220 --> 00:35:05,451 - Tim, if you want to apologize, apologize. 872 00:35:05,451 --> 00:35:07,626 If you don’t, don’t. 873 00:35:07,626 --> 00:35:08,956 - Uh... 874 00:35:09,956 --> 00:35:13,253 [keys clacking] [computer chimes] 875 00:35:13,451 --> 00:35:15,220 [blows raspberry] 876 00:35:16,725 --> 00:35:19,385 As far as, like, the research, 877 00:35:19,385 --> 00:35:21,923 I’ve already got everything 878 00:35:21,923 --> 00:35:23,923 I feel like I needed from this, 879 00:35:23,923 --> 00:35:26,418 but I do see that they invested 880 00:35:26,418 --> 00:35:27,857 a lot of emotions into that character. 881 00:35:27,857 --> 00:35:33,890 And that I’m sorry that he wasn’t real for you. 882 00:35:33,890 --> 00:35:36,385 - I honestly take that apology 883 00:35:36,385 --> 00:35:39,418 and you can shove it up your ass. 884 00:35:39,418 --> 00:35:41,758 I don’t believe it’s genuine 885 00:35:41,758 --> 00:35:43,857 ’cause at the end of the day, it’s you. 886 00:35:43,857 --> 00:35:46,791 I’m just a guinea pig for your story. 887 00:35:46,989 --> 00:35:48,692 And you think that [bleep] funny. 888 00:35:48,692 --> 00:35:51,626 You’re a [bleep] coward. You’re a whole bitch. 889 00:35:51,626 --> 00:35:54,626 - All right, well, look, let’s take a quick break, 890 00:35:54,626 --> 00:35:58,253 cool down a little, and we can talk to you guys one on one. 891 00:35:58,253 --> 00:35:59,560 All right? So just hang tight, Tim. 892 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,890 We’ll bring you back in in a little bit. 893 00:36:01,890 --> 00:36:03,824 [computer chimes] 894 00:36:04,286 --> 00:36:06,791 - It’s like, "Oh, I want to write a murder mystery. 895 00:36:06,791 --> 00:36:08,022 "Let me go out and kill somebody, 896 00:36:08,022 --> 00:36:10,692 "do some weirdo [bleep], and then write about it." 897 00:36:10,692 --> 00:36:12,923 - I don’t know if I buy that he’s a writer... 898 00:36:12,923 --> 00:36:13,626 - I don’t either. 899 00:36:13,626 --> 00:36:15,352 - And that this is all going to actually be for something. 900 00:36:15,352 --> 00:36:17,890 I think, the only way he could, like, get close 901 00:36:17,890 --> 00:36:20,385 to having any kind of actual human connection was through 902 00:36:20,385 --> 00:36:22,626 this fake character that he created because he’s clearly 903 00:36:22,626 --> 00:36:24,857 not very good at doing it in person. 904 00:36:24,857 --> 00:36:27,956 So are you cool if we just talk to him 905 00:36:27,956 --> 00:36:29,758 for a bit without you? 906 00:36:29,758 --> 00:36:32,385 Maybe he’ll open up more. I don’t know. 907 00:36:32,385 --> 00:36:33,187 - Yeah, that’s fine. 908 00:36:33,187 --> 00:36:34,791 - All right, we’re gonna go talk to him. 909 00:36:34,791 --> 00:36:36,659 - Well, hopefully, you can get some answers out of him. 910 00:36:36,659 --> 00:36:38,484 [computer chimes] - I don’t want to talk to him. 911 00:36:38,484 --> 00:36:40,319 He gives me the creeps. 912 00:36:43,286 --> 00:36:44,352 [computer chimes] 913 00:36:44,352 --> 00:36:46,659 - Hey, man. - Hello. 914 00:36:46,857 --> 00:36:48,560 - All right, well, look, I know this is a lot, 915 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,593 and obviously, with Gabby on, it was a little extra. 916 00:36:52,593 --> 00:36:53,890 - Yeah. - But nice that at least 917 00:36:53,890 --> 00:36:56,890 you do want to kind of help clear the air, come clean. 918 00:36:56,890 --> 00:36:59,890 We’re just confused because it seemed like you connected 919 00:36:59,890 --> 00:37:03,692 with Gabby in such a intimate, personal way. 920 00:37:03,692 --> 00:37:05,593 And, you know, you really sold yourself 921 00:37:05,593 --> 00:37:07,824 as someone capable of... - Loving someone. 922 00:37:07,824 --> 00:37:10,857 - Deep love and connection, and we’re just confused 923 00:37:10,857 --> 00:37:14,791 because you don’t seem to be exhibiting those traits. 924 00:37:14,791 --> 00:37:19,725 - Yeah because it wasn’t me doing all that. 925 00:37:19,725 --> 00:37:22,725 I was just being a character. It wasn’t my emotions. 926 00:37:22,725 --> 00:37:26,692 It wasn’t my feelings at all. Like the way Gabriela responded 927 00:37:26,692 --> 00:37:29,956 to Kendrick and the way she responded to Holiday... 928 00:37:29,956 --> 00:37:33,055 if somebody was reading it, I want them to feel 929 00:37:33,055 --> 00:37:34,989 that sort of thing as well, 930 00:37:34,989 --> 00:37:36,451 like the type of emotion she felt. 931 00:37:36,451 --> 00:37:38,989 And all I wanted to do is just, once I killed 932 00:37:38,989 --> 00:37:41,560 the character, have it end right then and there. 933 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,022 I mean, I learned a lot about character development. 934 00:37:46,022 --> 00:37:48,791 So I got what I wanted out of it. 935 00:37:48,791 --> 00:37:51,121 - Well, we’re glad you got what you wanted, 936 00:37:51,121 --> 00:37:52,791 but Gabby didn’t. 937 00:37:52,791 --> 00:37:57,055 - This was really [bleep] up, and it’s not okay. 938 00:37:57,055 --> 00:37:59,088 And you messed with someone’s feelings 939 00:37:59,088 --> 00:38:00,692 who was already vulnerable, 940 00:38:00,692 --> 00:38:02,923 and you can’t just play with people’s lives like this 941 00:38:02,923 --> 00:38:06,758 and then leave them high and dry because you’re done. 942 00:38:07,418 --> 00:38:09,088 - Yeah. - These are real people. 943 00:38:09,088 --> 00:38:12,418 This isn’t a part of a story or a book. 944 00:38:12,418 --> 00:38:15,022 - It definitely, definitely, like, 945 00:38:15,022 --> 00:38:16,857 was a learning experience. 946 00:38:16,857 --> 00:38:19,418 I am sorry about how she felt, 947 00:38:19,418 --> 00:38:20,989 and it sucks that 948 00:38:20,989 --> 00:38:22,956 she did invest so much 949 00:38:22,956 --> 00:38:25,022 into someone that she thought was real, 950 00:38:25,022 --> 00:38:27,088 but I didn’t really think about her. 951 00:38:27,088 --> 00:38:29,725 You know, I was only thinking about myself. 952 00:38:29,725 --> 00:38:34,055 So it was good for me to, like, see how it affected her 953 00:38:34,055 --> 00:38:38,484 and how it was not okay to do such a thing. 954 00:38:38,484 --> 00:38:39,758 - All right, well that’s-- 955 00:38:39,758 --> 00:38:41,088 - Good, thank you for saying that. 956 00:38:41,088 --> 00:38:42,791 - Yeah. Happy to hear you say that. 957 00:38:42,791 --> 00:38:45,022 - Maybe you can say that to her. 958 00:38:45,022 --> 00:38:48,055 - She already stated that she wants me 959 00:38:48,055 --> 00:38:49,989 to shut my sorry little ass, so... 960 00:38:49,989 --> 00:38:52,451 - Yeah, I mean, I don’t think there’s any good that can come 961 00:38:52,451 --> 00:38:56,824 from you guys talking to each other anymore right now. 962 00:38:57,055 --> 00:39:00,593 - Thank you for coming on and being honest. 963 00:39:00,593 --> 00:39:02,560 Good luck with everything, 964 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,560 and hopefully, we don’t have to see you again. 965 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,253 - We probably won’t. 966 00:39:07,253 --> 00:39:10,055 - I guess that’s that. - All right, thank you. 967 00:39:10,055 --> 00:39:12,484 - All right, later, Tim. 968 00:39:13,154 --> 00:39:14,659 [computer chimes] 969 00:39:14,659 --> 00:39:15,956 - [groans] 970 00:39:15,956 --> 00:39:16,560 [laughs] 971 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,187 My therapist is going to have a field day with this one. 972 00:39:20,725 --> 00:39:22,220 [computer chimes] 973 00:39:22,220 --> 00:39:23,220 - Well, we tried. 974 00:39:23,220 --> 00:39:25,088 Talked to him a little bit more. 975 00:39:25,088 --> 00:39:28,989 He did strangely say that he’s glad that he understands now 976 00:39:28,989 --> 00:39:31,956 how what he did hurt your feelings. 977 00:39:31,956 --> 00:39:34,560 - He did a very backwards-ass way of saying 978 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,253 that it was good... - Right, it was good for him. 979 00:39:36,253 --> 00:39:38,484 - That he understands... - That now he understands. 980 00:39:38,484 --> 00:39:41,187 - How he affected you negatively. 981 00:39:41,187 --> 00:39:42,560 - Yeah. So, look, 982 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:47,758 Tim’s clearly on the slower side of emotional maturity 983 00:39:47,758 --> 00:39:51,626 when it comes to empathy and connection. 984 00:39:51,626 --> 00:39:53,692 And perhaps this was an effort for him 985 00:39:53,692 --> 00:39:55,560 to try to connect with people more, 986 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,088 and whether it was for a story or just because 987 00:39:58,088 --> 00:40:01,692 he desperately wants to feel love and... 988 00:40:01,692 --> 00:40:03,626 - Yeah. - Connection and he doesn’t 989 00:40:03,626 --> 00:40:04,758 know how to do it in his real life. 990 00:40:04,758 --> 00:40:05,758 Who knows? - We’re just glad 991 00:40:05,758 --> 00:40:07,890 that you have closure. - Yeah. 992 00:40:07,890 --> 00:40:10,154 - And you can now move on with your life. 993 00:40:10,154 --> 00:40:12,956 - Hopefully, he takes this as a life lesson, 994 00:40:12,956 --> 00:40:13,956 he learns from it, and, like, 995 00:40:13,956 --> 00:40:16,022 hopefully, he doesn’t do this to nobody else. 996 00:40:16,022 --> 00:40:17,593 If not, you might be getting 997 00:40:17,593 --> 00:40:19,319 another phone call from somebody. 998 00:40:19,319 --> 00:40:20,022 - Oh, my God. 999 00:40:20,022 --> 00:40:23,560 - All right, Gabby, happy--hey, look, it’s Friday. 1000 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:24,484 Go have a drink, all right? 1001 00:40:24,484 --> 00:40:27,626 - Yeah, definitely. - Pour one out for Kendrick. 1002 00:40:27,626 --> 00:40:28,253 - [laughs] 1003 00:40:28,253 --> 00:40:30,022 - All right, bye, Gabby. - Bye. 1004 00:40:30,022 --> 00:40:30,890 - Bye. 1005 00:40:30,890 --> 00:40:35,154 - ♪ Your love you gave to me ♪ 1006 00:40:35,154 --> 00:40:39,055 ♪ You can have it back ♪ 1007 00:40:39,055 --> 00:40:42,725 ♪ All I got was a heart attack ♪ 1008 00:40:42,725 --> 00:40:45,055 ♪ And you can have it back ♪ 1009 00:40:45,055 --> 00:40:48,253 ♪ Do, do you can have it back ♪ 1010 00:40:48,253 --> 00:40:52,626 ♪ Do, do you can have it back ♪ 1011 00:40:52,626 --> 00:40:56,286 ♪ Do, do, do, do ♪ 1012 00:40:56,286 --> 00:40:56,946 ♪ ♪ 1013 00:41:00,775 --> 00:41:01,942 - Let's go, Nev. We're on the road. 1014 00:41:02,009 --> 00:41:03,911 - We got William talking to Breezy. 1015 00:41:03,978 --> 00:41:05,379 - Wait a minute, we know this guy. 1016 00:41:05,446 --> 00:41:07,014 - William the baddest is back. 1017 00:41:07,081 --> 00:41:09,316 - I just want someone to love me. 1018 00:41:09,383 --> 00:41:11,786 - You're looking at his page and there's no interaction? 1019 00:41:12,987 --> 00:41:14,722 - Okay. - He doesn't know who I am? 1020 00:41:14,789 --> 00:41:16,257 - Been a long time since I knocked on a door. 1021 00:41:16,323 --> 00:41:18,392 [knocks on door] Oh, hi.