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- Emma met a guy named EJ.
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He claims that he’s part of
this group of college athletes
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that were sharing
this fake social media.
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- He would text me
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from multiple
different phone numbers.
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It’s out of control
at this point.
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- I got a Instagram message
from EJ.
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He sent me multiple pictures
of Emma naked.
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- Is there something
he seems to want?
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[escalating music]
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- To be with me.
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[dramatic musical sting]
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- All right. There she is.
Back from London.
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- I can’t believe
I’m seeing you.
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- Wow, really?
- Yeah. Oh.
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- I got hugs.
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Oh, you got the new flag, huh?
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- Yeah. I’ve changed.
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[British accent]
I’ve changed, babe.
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- Tell me about "Catfish UK."
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- Hey.
- Hey!
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- I mean, that is--
that’s the shot.
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- [British accent]
Oh, look, some tea.
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So perfect.
Thank you.
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- That’s actually really good.
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- I’ve switched sides.
- Yeah.
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- The British are coming.
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- Lady Kamie, your throne.
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- [laughing]
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- Anyway, let’s get to work.
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Enough chit-chat.
We’ve got emails.
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Here’s one. "He’s already
confessed too much.
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Hey, Nev and Kamie,
my name is Emma."
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I’m a 24-year-old
speech pathologist
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from Kenilworth, New Jersey.
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I’ve been involved
with someone named EJ
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for the past six months,
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but my question is how many
people have I been talking to?
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- Mmm...
- I met EJ on social media,
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and I instantly thought,
"That’s my future husband."
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He’s cute, and at the time,
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played football for
the University of [bleep].
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He’s very caring
and thoughtful
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and always checks on me.
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I recently went through
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a total health
and fitness transformation
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and lost over 100 pounds.
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- Wow.
- So meeting EJ after that
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felt magical.
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Everything was going great
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until EJ started
acting in weird ways
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and confessing
some pretty crazy stuff.
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First, EJ told me he would
come see me in New Jersey,
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but then he stood me up
at the last minute.
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I was heartbroken.
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And when he finally
got back in touch,
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he told me that his friend
Kyle had stolen his phone,
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and I was actually talking
to Kyle for that time.
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♪ ♪
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And then EJ comes out
with a new confession.
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Turns out, from the start,
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I was talking to
EJ’s shady friend Jake.
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What?
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At that point I was done.
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I blocked EJ on everything,
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but he wouldn’t stay gone.
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I tried to move on
and date someone new,
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but EJ started DMing
that person
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and probably ruined my chances
with him too.
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This is getting stalker level.
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Now I’m just freaked out.
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He has my home address,
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and I’ve sent him
really provocative photos.
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- ♪ Is it fact or fiction? ♪
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- Please,
help me unravel this mess,
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and help me find some answers.
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- Emma.
- Whoa.
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Let’s text Emma. We definitely
need to find more about this.
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- Hello, Emma.
It’s Nev and Kamie.
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I mean, Steve and Sammy.
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[laughing]
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Hopefully, she gets the joke.
Oh, she gave it a haha.
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I need some help understanding
this crazy story.
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- Do we even know
if it’s a guy?
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- It’s a very...
- Has she talked to him
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on the phone?
- Strange person.
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[chime]
- Oh, hey.
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- Hey.
- Hey.
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- Welcome.
- Oh, Emma.
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Hello, hello.
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How are things in New Jersey?
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- A little cold, but you know,
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other than that,
everything’s been cool.
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- Well, we want
to hear your story.
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’Cause you mentioned
in the email that meeting EJ...
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- Mm-hmm.
- Came right after this
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health and fitness
and wellness journey.
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- So as of a year
and a half ago,
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I started to work out avidly,
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just kind of changed
my whole lifestyle
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’cause I wasn’t happy
with how I looked,
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and I’m down
just about 100 pounds.
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It’s crazy.
- That is crazy.
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- Wow.
- I look at myself sometimes.
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I don’t even recognize myself.
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So talking to someone
after this whole transition
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was kind
of a big thing, you know?
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- Right.
- Yeah.
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- So back in April,
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he followed me on Instagram.
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I was like,
"Wow, he’s really cute."
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I’ll slide in the DMs.
So I messaged him,
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and within a day or two,
I gave him my phone number.
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He started texting.
He kind of came in
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at a point where I needed
someone like him.
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Just like a really good
caring person,
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someone who was
willing to listen.
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And he would always remember
little things that I told him.
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I’m like, I’m a sucker.
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If you could remember
the little things I’m like,
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"Oh, you pay attention."
It was awesome.
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- Okay. And his Instagram
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to you looked fully legit
and like a real person?
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- Oh, yeah.
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He had verified athletes
commenting on his posts.
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- Whoa. Really?
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- Oh, he--’cause
he played football?
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- Yeah. So he claimed.
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- What was his position?
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- He claimed quarterback.
- Classic.
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- He could have said safety
or something more believable.
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- Right?
But at that point,
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I didn’t
really think twice about it.
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- And are you guys just texting
or talking on the phone?
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- So I’d be like,
"Oh, can you FaceTime me?"
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He’d be like,
"Yeah, I’m in my practice.
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As soon as I’m done
with practice."
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- Practice. Practice
is the new "in the studio."
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- Yeah. "I got practice."
It’s so easy.
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- Right. And he would always
make it a point to FaceTime me
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or call me
whenever I was asleep.
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- Oh my G--
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- Isn’t that insane?
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- So you have not spoken to him
on the phone?
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- No. Never.
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- Okay.
So why don’t you just take us
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down the timeline
of the foolishness?
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Because there’s been a lot.
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- Let’s fast forward
now to June.
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He tells me
he can come see me.
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So he buys his airfare.
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He’s texting
"I’m on my flight."
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And then he’s like,
"Okay, tomorrow be ready.
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I have something
special planned for us."
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I’m like, "Oh, okay, cool."
1:00 rolls around,
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and he tells me
he’s outside my house.
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So I’m outside on the street
and I’m like, "Where are you?
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You’re not here.
I’m not doing this."
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So at this point,
I’m done and I cut him off,
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but this is where
it gets kind of nutty.
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After a week and a half,
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he claims that his phone
got stolen by a kid
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who is on the football team.
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So EJ was like,
"I haven’t been talking to you
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for a week and a half."
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And he sends me
a long screenshot
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of a message
from this kid Kyle.
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And he’s like,
"Hey man, I messed up.
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I’ve been talking to the girl
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and I made it seem like
I was in New Jersey."
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It was a really long message
that was sent.
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And I was like, "Wow. Okay,
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maybe that’s actually
kind of believable."
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- No. No.
No one would leave their phone
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for a week and a half--
it just doesn’t happen.
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- Right.
At this point something’s
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like not sitting right with me.
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So I reverse searched
his phone number
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and it’s registered
to a Tiana [bleep].
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- Whoa.
- Good work.
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- Right?
- So what did he say?
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- He then proceeded to tell me
he actually had a fiancée,
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and his fiancée’s name
was Tiana [bleep].
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- Oh my God!
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- Finally, after days
of arguing with him I’m like,
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"I don’t believe
anything you say.
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I think you’re just a liar."
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He’s like, "You know what?
I have to tell you something."
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He’s like,
"Look up Jake [bleep]."
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And I found out EJ’s pictures
are actually the quarterback
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at the University of [bleep].
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- So EJ showed you
that the pictures
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that you thought were EJ
had actually been Jake [bleep]
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the whole time.
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- What the [bleep]
is happening?
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- So now EJ is like me,
Jake, and this kid Kyle
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are behind
this Instagram account
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to cheat on their girlfriends.
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- So now he’s claiming
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that Jake has been in
on this whole thing.
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- Right.
He sent me one more picture.
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He told me, "Hey, this is me,"
and then
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a couple days later, the person
came up on my TikTok.
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His name was Dane.
And I’m like "That’s not you."
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- Wait. So he said,
"This is actually me"
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and he sent you a picture
of another kind of hot
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influencer guy on TikTok.
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- Yeah, he was an athlete.
Again, they’re all athletes.
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So at this point,
I blocked him.
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But no matter how I tried
to cut this kid off,
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he finds different ways
to contact me.
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So September 18th,
I went and I got skin removal
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and EJ text me
from a different phone number.
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It was like, "Here’s a video
with Jake wishing you luck."
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- Do you still have it?
- What, the video?
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Yeah. Do you wanna see it?
- Yeah, we wanna see it!
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- Okay.
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- Oh, here we go.
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- Hey, Emma. This is Jake.
Just wanted to say hi
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and wish you luck before
your big surgery tomorrow.
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Just know that I’m thinking
about you
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and I’m sure everything
will go smoothly.
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- It’s a Cameo.
It’s a Cameo.
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- Do you know what Cameo is?
Do you know that app?
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- No.
- Okay. So there’s an app
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where you can find athletes
and actors and celebrities--
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- And us.
- We’re on there.
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And pay them to record
a video for you.
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- Let’s look up his name.
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- Jake [bleep].
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- He’s got a [bleep] Cameo.
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- What is that?
- They’ve only got one on here.
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- Emma!
- Oh my God!
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Wait, but that’s
not you, is it?
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- No!
- "Thank you so much, Jake.
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This really made my day.
The surgery was a success."
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- He must have made an account
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and named himself Emma
and [bleep] did it!
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- Oh my God.
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- That’s insane.
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- EJ made a fake account
calling himself Emma,
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requested a Cameo, and then
left a review as you...
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- Sick.
- Post-surgery.
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- That’s sick.
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I am floored.
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I am floored.
- Wow!
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This is nuts.
249
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You are involved with
one of the more
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creative and sophisticated
catfishes we’ve ever seen.
251
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- That’s insane.
- Is it easy for you
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to show us some of
the more recent photos
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that EJ has sent you?
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- Yeah, definitely.
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This is the picture of the guy
he claimed he was
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after he told me
he wasn’t Jake.
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- This is Dane.
- The TikToker.
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- Right. That’s Dane.
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This is a picture
he posted of Jake.
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- Do you have pictures of Kyle?
- Yeah. This is Kyle.
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- Can we see
some of your messages?
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- Yeah.
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So this is him
just constantly reaching out.
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- He’s been messaging you
on Kik?
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- Yeah, because he’s
blocked now on social media.
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- And he just keeps
sending messages.
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He just keeps sending messages.
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- Yeah.
- You’re like still being nice.
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- Oh yeah. I’m concerned
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because he has nude photos
and my address.
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But also if I’m mean,
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he’ll send me
like biblical verses
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and tell me I’m disgusting,
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because I don’t see
that God loves everybody
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regardless
of the sins that they’ve--
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- Girl, get this [bleep] creep
outta here.
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What is happening?
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- Isn’t that wild?
- Wow. Okay. So what else?
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- [laughing]
No more.
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- [laughing]
- Please!
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- Is there more?
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- Yeah, so he messages
my friend Tyler.
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He’s like, "Do you know Emma?
I heard she’s dead."
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- What the [bleep]?
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- And then EJ’s sending him
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screenshots of nude pictures
that I have sent him
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to try and convince him
that he knows me well.
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And then a couple weeks ago,
I was starting to
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go out with someone that
I’ve previously gone out with.
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And EJ went to the extent
of catfishing the guy
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that I was seeing as a woman.
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And I was like, oh my God...
293
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- Uh...yeah.
294
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- He’s crazy.
295
00:10:57,033 --> 00:10:58,759
- This person is obsessed
with you,
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and it’s like actually crazy.
297
00:11:01,330 --> 00:11:05,792
- It’s sick, and it’s just it’s
out of control at this point.
298
00:11:05,792 --> 00:11:10,132
- Is there something
he seems to want?
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- To be with me.
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00:11:11,264 --> 00:11:14,000
- It like literally
gives me chills.
301
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That’s so weird.
302
00:11:14,858 --> 00:11:17,858
- All right. Listen, Emma,
we’ve got a lot of work to do.
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- Yes.
- Send us everything.
304
00:11:19,165 --> 00:11:21,957
- We’re gonna get into it
right now. Sit tight.
305
00:11:21,957 --> 00:11:23,297
We’ll--we’ll be in touch soon.
306
00:11:23,297 --> 00:11:24,891
- Bye.
- Bye.
307
00:11:24,891 --> 00:11:25,957
[chime]
- This is different.
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- Clearly, there is a person
or a group of people
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who are taking great joy
in manipulating her.
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- She’s [bleep] scared.
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Like, she’s scared.
- Right.
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00:11:34,858 --> 00:11:40,792
- Whoever this person is,
it’s time for it to end.
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00:11:42,192 --> 00:11:44,829
- All that talk about Cameo
yesterday made me realize
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I’m totally behind
on my requests.
315
00:11:46,664 --> 00:11:48,027
All right, ready, Kamie?
We gotta do a quick Cameo.
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00:11:48,027 --> 00:11:49,664
It’s just about to expire.
- What you got?
317
00:11:49,664 --> 00:11:52,093
- This is for Sarah
from her friend Jack
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00:11:52,093 --> 00:11:53,928
who says, "I honestly,
I don’t watch ’Catfish,’
319
00:11:53,928 --> 00:11:55,258
So maybe tie that in there
somewhere."
320
00:11:55,258 --> 00:11:56,895
- What?
- The guy who got it just knows
321
00:11:56,895 --> 00:11:58,258
that she loves the show...
- Oh, my God.
322
00:11:58,258 --> 00:11:59,928
- And has like no idea
what it is.
323
00:11:59,928 --> 00:12:03,928
Hey, Sarah, it’s Nev here.
324
00:12:03,928 --> 00:12:05,225
Happy birthday.
325
00:12:05,225 --> 00:12:05,928
- Happy birthday.
326
00:12:05,928 --> 00:12:07,664
- And we’re we happy
to be a part of it.
327
00:12:07,664 --> 00:12:09,928
- Shout out to Jack,
because he sent us here.
328
00:12:09,928 --> 00:12:11,324
- And Jack, who has no idea
329
00:12:11,324 --> 00:12:12,829
what we do
or what "Catfish" is
330
00:12:12,829 --> 00:12:15,664
but knew enough about you
to know that you love it.
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00:12:15,664 --> 00:12:17,192
Bye.
- Bye!
332
00:12:17,192 --> 00:12:18,796
- Perfect.
- Okay.
333
00:12:18,796 --> 00:12:21,192
- All right. Basically,
Emma met a guy on Instagram
334
00:12:21,192 --> 00:12:23,763
named EJ,
who’s proceeded to lure her
335
00:12:23,763 --> 00:12:26,225
into a romantic relationship,
string it out,
336
00:12:26,225 --> 00:12:29,324
falsely lead her to believe
that they were gonna meet up.
337
00:12:29,324 --> 00:12:31,027
Then he brings up
other stories about,
338
00:12:31,027 --> 00:12:33,192
"Oh, that wasn’t me.
My friend had my phone and oh,
339
00:12:33,192 --> 00:12:35,796
I’ve actually been lying.
I’m this guy."
340
00:12:35,796 --> 00:12:36,763
And now he claims that
341
00:12:36,763 --> 00:12:38,631
he’s part of this group
of college athletes
342
00:12:38,631 --> 00:12:42,367
that were at some point sharing
this fake Instagram account.
343
00:12:42,367 --> 00:12:45,225
He went as far as to
order a Cameo from Jake,
344
00:12:45,225 --> 00:12:47,093
the guy who he said
he was friends with
345
00:12:47,093 --> 00:12:50,367
to wish her a good surgery
to make it seem convincing
346
00:12:50,367 --> 00:12:52,961
that Jake is
somehow involved in this.
347
00:12:52,961 --> 00:12:54,126
Whoever Emma’s talking to
348
00:12:54,126 --> 00:12:57,730
seems to be willing
to do anything to get to her.
349
00:12:57,730 --> 00:12:59,697
- Even catfishing
the guy that Emma
350
00:12:59,697 --> 00:13:01,291
is actually dating
in real life
351
00:13:01,291 --> 00:13:03,697
to try to drive a wedge
between them.
352
00:13:03,697 --> 00:13:06,027
- Emma’s in a situation
right now that is worrisome.
353
00:13:06,027 --> 00:13:07,895
This person has naked
pictures of Emma,
354
00:13:07,895 --> 00:13:09,829
and he’s proven
he’s willing to use them.
355
00:13:09,829 --> 00:13:11,730
We need to find out
who the hell this is
356
00:13:11,730 --> 00:13:13,994
and carefully
put an end to this.
357
00:13:13,994 --> 00:13:14,796
- Yeah.
358
00:13:14,796 --> 00:13:16,291
- So we got
another email here
359
00:13:16,291 --> 00:13:17,400
from Emma
with some information.
360
00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,126
So, "Hy Nev and Kamie,
here’s the info I have on EJ.
361
00:13:20,126 --> 00:13:21,763
His full name
is Elijah [bleep],
362
00:13:21,763 --> 00:13:24,258
his phone number
and his email on Insta
363
00:13:24,258 --> 00:13:27,159
before he took it down,
or it was taken down.
364
00:13:27,159 --> 00:13:28,159
- Mm-hmm.
- The first person
365
00:13:28,159 --> 00:13:30,159
I was talking to
was named Jake [bleep].
366
00:13:30,159 --> 00:13:33,060
Then there was Kyle [bleep]
who stole his phone.
367
00:13:33,060 --> 00:13:36,796
He also messaged my friend
Tyler about me being dead.
368
00:13:36,796 --> 00:13:37,928
Tyler can tell you
more about it.
369
00:13:37,928 --> 00:13:39,994
You should reach out to him.
Here’s his number.
370
00:13:39,994 --> 00:13:41,433
I added
all the pictures I have.
371
00:13:41,433 --> 00:13:42,324
That’s all I have for now.
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00:13:42,324 --> 00:13:43,961
Let me know
if you have any questions.
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00:13:43,961 --> 00:13:47,192
Thank you so much. Emma."
Okay, well...
374
00:13:47,192 --> 00:13:48,291
here’s Jake.
- Right.
375
00:13:48,291 --> 00:13:49,862
- The real football player,
376
00:13:49,862 --> 00:13:52,400
and Dane, the guy
she recognized from TikTok.
377
00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,225
I assume she’s also
run the photos,
378
00:13:54,225 --> 00:13:55,499
but it doesn’t really matter
because--
379
00:13:55,499 --> 00:13:56,730
- We know who they are.
- Right.
380
00:13:56,730 --> 00:13:59,796
- So let’s just start
with this phone number.
381
00:13:59,796 --> 00:14:02,928
This has been the number
that is used most of the time.
382
00:14:02,928 --> 00:14:05,895
- Right.
- Oh yeah. Tiana [bleep].
383
00:14:05,895 --> 00:14:07,730
- Same name that came up
in Emma’s search.
384
00:14:07,730 --> 00:14:10,730
Let’s run the number on
Cash App and see what we get.
385
00:14:10,730 --> 00:14:12,433
[lightly suspenseful music]
386
00:14:12,433 --> 00:14:13,895
- Tiana.
- Tiana.
387
00:14:13,895 --> 00:14:15,192
- It’s her.
- It seems like
388
00:14:15,192 --> 00:14:17,367
we’re definitely dealing with
a girl here,
389
00:14:17,367 --> 00:14:19,060
and clearly it’s Tiana.
390
00:14:19,060 --> 00:14:20,466
- It’s gotta be.
- Which also makes sense
391
00:14:20,466 --> 00:14:21,895
why they’ve never
talked on the phone...
392
00:14:21,895 --> 00:14:22,895
- Yeah.
- Or FaceTimed.
393
00:14:22,895 --> 00:14:24,192
- But who is Tiana?
Who is she?
394
00:14:24,192 --> 00:14:25,126
- But who is Tiana?
395
00:14:25,126 --> 00:14:28,225
All right, let’s look up
Tiana [bleep].
396
00:14:28,961 --> 00:14:29,631
Interesting.
397
00:14:29,631 --> 00:14:34,126
There are only three
Tiana [bleep] on Facebook.
398
00:14:34,324 --> 00:14:38,192
First hit is a sort
of weird profile.
399
00:14:38,192 --> 00:14:39,994
No picture, eight friends,
400
00:14:39,994 --> 00:14:42,565
but it hasn’t been used
in a long time.
401
00:14:42,565 --> 00:14:44,961
Let’s see about this next one.
402
00:14:44,961 --> 00:14:50,225
Another sort of dead profile,
but let’s try this third one.
403
00:14:50,433 --> 00:14:52,928
Looks like
they’re all inactive.
404
00:14:52,928 --> 00:14:54,060
It’s not a common name.
405
00:14:54,060 --> 00:14:55,291
It’s just weird
that there are
406
00:14:55,291 --> 00:14:58,258
three Tiana [bleep]
Facebook pages,
407
00:14:58,258 --> 00:15:01,532
and they’re all
very weird, empty profiles.
408
00:15:01,532 --> 00:15:03,862
- She’s looking weird.
She’s looking sus.
409
00:15:03,862 --> 00:15:04,631
- Right. Very sus.
410
00:15:04,631 --> 00:15:07,159
Guess we could do
an Instagram search.
411
00:15:07,159 --> 00:15:09,400
Tiana [bleep].
412
00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,532
Oh, just one result.
413
00:15:12,532 --> 00:15:15,192
Ooh. "Ball is life."
414
00:15:15,192 --> 00:15:16,400
Athlete.
- Mm.
415
00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,532
One actual photo of her.
"Bored.
416
00:15:19,532 --> 00:15:22,291
Something to post.
Like. Follow."
417
00:15:23,192 --> 00:15:24,895
So this--what?
- Uhh!
418
00:15:24,895 --> 00:15:25,928
- Uhh!
- What?
419
00:15:25,928 --> 00:15:27,961
- Bible verse.
- [gasps]
420
00:15:27,961 --> 00:15:29,532
- [whispers] Bible verse.
421
00:15:29,532 --> 00:15:31,961
- EJ has been sending
biblical verses.
422
00:15:31,961 --> 00:15:34,532
- Although, a lot of people
do use Bible verses,
423
00:15:34,532 --> 00:15:35,829
but that’s interesting.
424
00:15:35,829 --> 00:15:37,565
- The phone number
comes back to Tiana.
425
00:15:37,565 --> 00:15:39,258
The Cash App
comes back to Tiana.
426
00:15:39,258 --> 00:15:41,324
- Right.
- Clearly, Tiana is
427
00:15:41,324 --> 00:15:43,598
at the center
of this [bleep]storm.
428
00:15:43,598 --> 00:15:47,433
- Yeah. But is this the Tiana
we’re looking for?
429
00:15:47,433 --> 00:15:48,324
What else do we have?
430
00:15:48,324 --> 00:15:50,499
- We have the number for Tyler.
- Right.
431
00:15:50,499 --> 00:15:54,225
Emma’s actual friend
who EJ sent Emma’s nudes to.
432
00:15:54,225 --> 00:15:56,060
We should get
his side of the story.
433
00:15:56,060 --> 00:15:58,225
I’m gonna send a message.
434
00:15:59,192 --> 00:16:01,060
Let’s just see
if he gets back to us.
435
00:16:01,060 --> 00:16:03,895
I wanna also reach out to Jake.
436
00:16:03,895 --> 00:16:05,400
He’s one of
the football players
437
00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,895
who supposedly
used EJ’s account.
438
00:16:07,895 --> 00:16:10,258
I doubt it,
but he may know something.
439
00:16:10,258 --> 00:16:14,466
Hey, Jake.
It’s Nev from "Catfish."
440
00:16:14,466 --> 00:16:17,598
Do I have a story for you.
441
00:16:17,598 --> 00:16:18,598
Give me a call.
442
00:16:18,598 --> 00:16:21,631
Well, just about run out
of things to search.
443
00:16:21,631 --> 00:16:23,466
- We could search
Kyle [bleep].
444
00:16:23,466 --> 00:16:26,862
- Yes, let’s do that.
He’s the other football player,
445
00:16:26,862 --> 00:16:28,565
The one who supposedly
stole EJ’s phone
446
00:16:28,565 --> 00:16:31,862
and lied to Emma
about meeting in New Jersey.
447
00:16:31,862 --> 00:16:34,928
[suspenseful music]
448
00:16:34,928 --> 00:16:36,565
Is this the guy?
449
00:16:36,565 --> 00:16:38,862
Let’s send him a message--
450
00:16:38,862 --> 00:16:41,961
I mean Kyle the same message.
451
00:16:42,565 --> 00:16:44,126
[phone chimes]
Ooh, look at this.
452
00:16:44,126 --> 00:16:47,060
Tyler wrote back.
Let’s see if he can talk.
453
00:16:47,060 --> 00:16:48,631
- Can he Zoom?
454
00:16:48,631 --> 00:16:49,994
- I’ll send him the link.
455
00:16:49,994 --> 00:16:51,093
Here he comes.
456
00:16:51,093 --> 00:16:52,928
[chime]
Oh!
457
00:16:53,159 --> 00:16:54,994
- How you guys doing?
Nice to meet you guys.
458
00:16:54,994 --> 00:16:57,324
- Welcome, to the show.
- Glad to be here.
459
00:16:57,324 --> 00:16:59,433
- Do you know about
this crazy thing
460
00:16:59,433 --> 00:17:00,466
that’s been going on with Emma?
461
00:17:00,466 --> 00:17:02,565
- Yeah, pretty much
everything about it. Yeah.
462
00:17:02,565 --> 00:17:05,225
- And Emma’s a friend of yours?
- Yes.
463
00:17:05,225 --> 00:17:06,324
We went
to high school together.
464
00:17:06,324 --> 00:17:08,433
- Okay.
And so you’re fully up to speed
465
00:17:08,433 --> 00:17:10,928
with the whole crazy EJ saga?
466
00:17:10,928 --> 00:17:12,598
- Yes.
So a couple weeks ago
467
00:17:12,598 --> 00:17:14,697
I got a Instagram
message from EJ.
468
00:17:14,697 --> 00:17:19,367
He asked me, "Is Emma dead?"
And obviously she’s not.
469
00:17:19,367 --> 00:17:21,532
So I was like,
"You know, what is this?
470
00:17:21,532 --> 00:17:23,093
You know,
what’s going on with this?"
471
00:17:23,093 --> 00:17:25,027
And then he then sent me back
472
00:17:25,027 --> 00:17:28,664
multiple pictures
of Emma naked
473
00:17:28,664 --> 00:17:33,258
and said,
"I know her very well."
474
00:17:33,258 --> 00:17:35,060
- Wow.
- Yes.
475
00:17:35,060 --> 00:17:36,192
So then I gave her
a phone call,
476
00:17:36,192 --> 00:17:38,367
and then she gave me
the whole rundown that,
477
00:17:38,367 --> 00:17:39,466
you know,
he’s pretty much a guy
478
00:17:39,466 --> 00:17:43,324
that she was talking to that
was, you know, stalking her.
479
00:17:43,324 --> 00:17:46,093
And she told me
that he made a fake
480
00:17:46,093 --> 00:17:49,093
Instagram account of her
that had her name in it
481
00:17:49,093 --> 00:17:51,466
and was selling
the naked pictures
482
00:17:51,466 --> 00:17:53,126
that he sent me
on the internet.
483
00:17:53,126 --> 00:17:55,324
- Wow.
We knew he’d sent them to you,
484
00:17:55,324 --> 00:17:57,367
but we had no idea
that there was
485
00:17:57,367 --> 00:18:00,060
a fake Emma account
selling her nudes online.
486
00:18:00,060 --> 00:18:02,324
- Yeah.
- I mean, it is concerning.
487
00:18:02,324 --> 00:18:03,499
- It’s very concerning.
Yeah.
488
00:18:03,499 --> 00:18:05,367
There’s something very wrong
with this person.
489
00:18:05,367 --> 00:18:09,433
- Have you ever heard of a girl
named Tiana [bleep]?
490
00:18:09,433 --> 00:18:10,225
- No.
491
00:18:10,225 --> 00:18:12,433
- Okay. Well, man. All right.
492
00:18:12,433 --> 00:18:14,258
Well, thank you so much
for your help.
493
00:18:14,258 --> 00:18:17,631
Good to have some
additional info from you there.
494
00:18:17,631 --> 00:18:18,324
- Thanks, Tyler.
495
00:18:18,324 --> 00:18:20,598
- No problem. Hope I helped
you guys a little bit.
496
00:18:20,598 --> 00:18:22,367
- For sure.
- All right, guys.
497
00:18:22,367 --> 00:18:24,994
Nice meeting you.
- All right, later, bud.
498
00:18:24,994 --> 00:18:26,598
Wow.
So there’s even more
499
00:18:26,598 --> 00:18:28,565
to the story
that Emma didn’t mention.
500
00:18:28,565 --> 00:18:30,994
- No.
- They had a fake Emma Page.
501
00:18:30,994 --> 00:18:33,664
People on Instagram
were buying her nude pictures.
502
00:18:33,664 --> 00:18:36,466
It’s so messed up.
- What are they trying to do
503
00:18:36,466 --> 00:18:38,994
other than like destroy
her life?
504
00:18:38,994 --> 00:18:40,499
I am now on a quest.
505
00:18:40,499 --> 00:18:43,631
I’m not playing--I’m about to
take this bitch down.
506
00:18:47,373 --> 00:18:50,505
- Okay. Chances are the person
that Emma’s been talking with
507
00:18:50,505 --> 00:18:56,099
this entire time has been
a woman named Tiana [bleep].
508
00:18:56,099 --> 00:18:57,604
Which obviously
explains not meeting up
509
00:18:57,604 --> 00:19:00,241
and not talking on the phone
or FaceTiming.
510
00:19:00,241 --> 00:19:02,967
- But we don’t--who is Tiana?
511
00:19:02,967 --> 00:19:04,241
- Right.
- That is the question.
512
00:19:04,241 --> 00:19:08,340
- All right. Let’s text Emma.
Hey, Emma.
513
00:19:11,066 --> 00:19:13,033
[chime]
Hey.
514
00:19:13,033 --> 00:19:14,099
- Hey, what’s going on?
515
00:19:14,099 --> 00:19:15,538
- We’ve been on a little bit
of a journey
516
00:19:15,538 --> 00:19:19,373
trying to trace our way
through your wild six months.
517
00:19:19,373 --> 00:19:22,000
- Mm-hmm.
- And we do have some stuff
518
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,967
that we want to discuss.
- Okay.
519
00:19:23,967 --> 00:19:26,000
- So as you had
already discovered,
520
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,967
the number you have for EJ
comes back to this girl.
521
00:19:29,967 --> 00:19:32,000
- Right. Tiana [bleep].
Right.
522
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,000
- So we then
put the number into Cash App,
523
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,066
which we find
often people have,
524
00:19:37,066 --> 00:19:40,472
and it came back to--to
a Tiana [bleep] on Cash App.
525
00:19:40,472 --> 00:19:41,670
- Oh.
- So we looked up
526
00:19:41,670 --> 00:19:44,241
Tiana [bleep] on Instagram
527
00:19:44,241 --> 00:19:46,340
and we did find this.
528
00:19:46,340 --> 00:19:49,274
Now, again,
not a very active profile.
529
00:19:49,274 --> 00:19:50,538
- No.
- But they seem to be
530
00:19:50,538 --> 00:19:54,208
into athletics. Right?
- "Ball is life."
531
00:19:54,208 --> 00:19:58,307
- And there’s one photo
of someone posted from 2014,
532
00:19:58,307 --> 00:20:01,307
a girl, presumably her.
533
00:20:01,307 --> 00:20:03,066
- Okay.
534
00:20:03,066 --> 00:20:05,637
- The weird part on
this profile is
535
00:20:05,637 --> 00:20:07,373
when you click
on one of the photos
536
00:20:07,373 --> 00:20:09,538
and you look at the caption...
537
00:20:09,538 --> 00:20:10,538
- Biblical.
- Right.
538
00:20:10,538 --> 00:20:15,373
And you said that EJ has been
sending you biblical verses.
539
00:20:15,373 --> 00:20:16,472
- Yeah.
- Could be completely
540
00:20:16,472 --> 00:20:17,802
unrelated--who knows?
- But you know, look,
541
00:20:17,802 --> 00:20:21,274
since the number comes back
to Tiana and the Cash App,
542
00:20:21,274 --> 00:20:23,703
and this is
the only Tiana [bleep]
543
00:20:23,703 --> 00:20:25,033
on either Facebook
or Instagram
544
00:20:25,033 --> 00:20:27,033
that seems to have like
an actual profile,
545
00:20:27,033 --> 00:20:29,033
right now,
this is the only potential
546
00:20:29,033 --> 00:20:32,165
lead we have
as to who is Tiana.
547
00:20:32,165 --> 00:20:33,132
- Right.
548
00:20:33,132 --> 00:20:34,703
- So we sent some messages
out...
549
00:20:34,703 --> 00:20:37,000
- Mm-hmm.
- To both Jake and Kyle,
550
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,571
the football players.
- Cool.
551
00:20:38,571 --> 00:20:39,769
- We have not heard
back from them.
552
00:20:39,769 --> 00:20:42,472
Also, we spoke to your friend
Tyler who filled us in
553
00:20:42,472 --> 00:20:44,274
a little bit
more of the details,
554
00:20:44,274 --> 00:20:45,439
specifically about the fact
555
00:20:45,439 --> 00:20:49,505
that the person was selling
some of the photos?
556
00:20:49,505 --> 00:20:51,439
- Yeah. Pictures.
557
00:20:51,439 --> 00:20:52,505
[uneasy music]
558
00:20:52,505 --> 00:20:56,802
- If I can ask, how did you
find out about that?
559
00:20:57,505 --> 00:21:00,066
- So I was actually
in New York,
560
00:21:00,066 --> 00:21:04,208
and I was ignoring
EJ, Tiana, whoever.
561
00:21:04,208 --> 00:21:07,802
And he or she texted me
and said
562
00:21:07,802 --> 00:21:10,307
"I’m in
a really sticky situation.
563
00:21:10,307 --> 00:21:14,066
"I made a fake Instagram
and a fake Venmo
564
00:21:14,066 --> 00:21:15,099
"when we first started talking
565
00:21:15,099 --> 00:21:18,066
and I’ve been selling your
pictures to people online."
566
00:21:18,066 --> 00:21:21,439
So they openly
told me about it.
567
00:21:21,439 --> 00:21:25,165
The following day, they tried
to tell me that it was a joke
568
00:21:25,165 --> 00:21:27,274
and that they did it
just to get my attention.
569
00:21:27,274 --> 00:21:28,736
And I’m like,
mm, see, I don’t really
570
00:21:28,736 --> 00:21:30,373
believe that though,
because you went through
571
00:21:30,373 --> 00:21:33,604
the trouble of building
up an Instagram account
572
00:21:33,604 --> 00:21:35,769
then requesting people
that I know.
573
00:21:35,769 --> 00:21:38,340
- How come you never mentioned
that to us?
574
00:21:38,340 --> 00:21:40,769
- I was more or
less embarrassed by it.
575
00:21:40,769 --> 00:21:45,637
And yeah, it was just--
it was really messy and...
576
00:21:45,637 --> 00:21:47,637
- The casual way
that they would
577
00:21:47,637 --> 00:21:49,439
send those pictures
to your friend...
578
00:21:49,439 --> 00:21:53,373
You think you’re sharing things
with one particular person,
579
00:21:53,373 --> 00:21:56,538
and then you realize that it’s
a completely different person.
580
00:21:56,538 --> 00:21:58,472
- Mm-hmm.
- It just worries me.
581
00:21:58,472 --> 00:22:01,802
- This is like
a complete violation of trust
582
00:22:01,802 --> 00:22:03,802
on so many different levels.
583
00:22:03,802 --> 00:22:07,505
- Has it affected the way that
you’re able to trust people?
584
00:22:07,505 --> 00:22:11,571
- Oh, yeah, no, I feel like
I cannot trust anybody now.
585
00:22:11,571 --> 00:22:12,406
I’m not kidding.
586
00:22:12,406 --> 00:22:16,571
- It’s very obvious that Tiana
or whoever is behind this
587
00:22:16,571 --> 00:22:21,505
is very deep
in this like, down bad.
588
00:22:21,505 --> 00:22:22,769
- Right.
- Look, we still have messages
589
00:22:22,769 --> 00:22:25,406
out to the players
that had their pics stolen.
590
00:22:25,406 --> 00:22:27,373
Giving them a chance
to get back to us.
591
00:22:27,373 --> 00:22:28,406
Hopefully, we hear from them.
592
00:22:28,406 --> 00:22:31,340
If we don’t, then we have to
probably just be prepared
593
00:22:31,340 --> 00:22:35,505
to reach out directly
to "EJ"/Tiana.
594
00:22:35,505 --> 00:22:37,373
- Right.
- But whoever this is
595
00:22:37,373 --> 00:22:40,835
has already distributed
your content, your pictures...
596
00:22:40,835 --> 00:22:42,439
- Right.
- Your name, your info.
597
00:22:42,439 --> 00:22:43,802
- Mm-hmm.
- So fingers crossed
598
00:22:43,802 --> 00:22:45,439
we can have a conversation
that ends
599
00:22:45,439 --> 00:22:47,934
with them understanding
that they need to stop.
600
00:22:47,934 --> 00:22:51,241
- Right. Hopefully,
we’ll be able to get something.
601
00:22:51,241 --> 00:22:52,769
We’ll see.
- All right, well, look,
602
00:22:52,769 --> 00:22:54,241
let’s regroup in the morning.
603
00:22:54,241 --> 00:22:56,637
We’ll see if we
have any updates.
604
00:22:56,637 --> 00:22:57,406
- Okay.
605
00:22:57,406 --> 00:22:59,505
- And--and depending on
what we do or don’t have then,
606
00:22:59,505 --> 00:23:02,165
we’ll make
an informed decision
607
00:23:02,165 --> 00:23:04,165
as to what
the next best move is.
608
00:23:04,165 --> 00:23:06,472
- Okay. Thank you for helping.
609
00:23:06,472 --> 00:23:07,505
It means...
- Sure.
610
00:23:07,505 --> 00:23:09,340
- More than you guys know.
Bye, guys.
611
00:23:09,340 --> 00:23:11,241
- Bye, girl.
I feel bad.
612
00:23:11,241 --> 00:23:13,769
- Yeah. She has to live
with this constant fear
613
00:23:13,769 --> 00:23:15,472
and always looking
over her shoulder.
614
00:23:15,472 --> 00:23:18,505
Anytime she posts something
or gets a new friend request,
615
00:23:18,505 --> 00:23:20,505
it’s like, oh God--everything.
616
00:23:20,505 --> 00:23:21,505
- Yeah. It’s terrorizing.
617
00:23:21,505 --> 00:23:23,901
This person has been
terrorizing her
618
00:23:23,901 --> 00:23:24,703
from every single angle.
619
00:23:24,703 --> 00:23:27,208
And I--I want us to be able
to help her stop it,
620
00:23:27,208 --> 00:23:30,769
but it could be completely
beyond the realm of anything
621
00:23:30,769 --> 00:23:33,802
that we can
possibly do to help her.
622
00:23:38,782 --> 00:23:41,211
- Drizzly day
here in Los Angeles,
623
00:23:41,211 --> 00:23:43,574
which I think
is very appropriate,
624
00:23:43,574 --> 00:23:47,442
considering the cloud that
seems to be hanging over Emma
625
00:23:47,442 --> 00:23:52,145
and this whole situation.
What is this person after?
626
00:23:52,145 --> 00:23:54,343
Fingers crossed,
as we figure it out.
627
00:23:54,343 --> 00:23:57,277
[electronic music]
628
00:23:57,277 --> 00:24:00,244
All right. Let’s see if either
of those football players,
629
00:24:00,244 --> 00:24:01,541
Jake or Kyle, got back to us.
630
00:24:01,541 --> 00:24:04,277
Because honestly,
it was all we had left.
631
00:24:04,277 --> 00:24:07,815
Not a single response.
Nothing.
632
00:24:07,815 --> 00:24:10,442
- But maybe Emma’s
heard from somebody?
633
00:24:10,442 --> 00:24:12,112
- Possibly.
634
00:24:14,607 --> 00:24:15,640
[chime]
Oh.
635
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,178
- Hey!
- Whoa!
636
00:24:17,178 --> 00:24:19,673
- Hello, good morning!
637
00:24:19,673 --> 00:24:22,574
- How have you been?
638
00:24:22,574 --> 00:24:23,409
- Little nervous.
639
00:24:23,409 --> 00:24:27,145
I got a text
last night from EJ.
640
00:24:27,145 --> 00:24:27,706
- Oh God.
641
00:24:27,706 --> 00:24:30,409
- Reaching out to see
if he could have my new number.
642
00:24:30,409 --> 00:24:32,376
’Cause there was something
he had to tell me.
643
00:24:32,376 --> 00:24:34,310
- Well, so we haven’t
heard back from either
644
00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:35,815
those football guys,
Kyle and Jake.
645
00:24:35,815 --> 00:24:38,343
- The only thing that we
have right now to go off of
646
00:24:38,343 --> 00:24:40,574
is that message
that you got from EJ.
647
00:24:40,574 --> 00:24:42,881
- Okay.
- Can you show us that message?
648
00:24:42,881 --> 00:24:44,640
- Yeah.
- What does he mean,
649
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,442
can he have
your new phone number?
650
00:24:46,442 --> 00:24:47,310
No. Oh, and you said it.
651
00:24:47,310 --> 00:24:48,881
You said you’re not
getting my new number.
652
00:24:48,881 --> 00:24:49,815
- Yeah.
- First she said
653
00:24:49,815 --> 00:24:52,706
"I care about you a lot,
wish we wouldn’t fight as much,
654
00:24:52,706 --> 00:24:53,541
and we could just go back
655
00:24:53,541 --> 00:24:56,607
to how we kind of
were at first. I love you."
656
00:24:56,607 --> 00:24:58,508
Had you been saying
"I love you" to him back
657
00:24:58,508 --> 00:25:00,310
when things were kind of good
at the beginning?
658
00:25:00,310 --> 00:25:02,409
- Yeah.
- That’s a big deal.
659
00:25:02,409 --> 00:25:03,277
You dropped the L bomb.
660
00:25:03,277 --> 00:25:04,409
- I did.
- That’s not nothing.
661
00:25:04,409 --> 00:25:05,914
You know, that’s a thing.
- No.
662
00:25:05,914 --> 00:25:08,574
- He said, "I’m not gonna blow
your phone up. I promise.
663
00:25:08,574 --> 00:25:10,145
But I need your new number.
664
00:25:10,145 --> 00:25:11,277
There’s something
I gotta tell you."
665
00:25:11,277 --> 00:25:13,178
Tell me right here.
- Tell me right here.
666
00:25:13,178 --> 00:25:14,145
- What--what’s the difference?
667
00:25:14,145 --> 00:25:16,442
- What if she gave our number?
- Ooh!
668
00:25:16,442 --> 00:25:18,475
- That way we can message
with him on your behalf,
669
00:25:18,475 --> 00:25:19,914
and he still won’t have
your real number
670
00:25:19,914 --> 00:25:22,607
in case something goes wrong
and he blows up.
671
00:25:22,607 --> 00:25:24,749
- I love that idea.
- Okay.
672
00:25:24,749 --> 00:25:27,475
- All right.
So let’s give him our number,
673
00:25:27,475 --> 00:25:30,673
but put it in a message
that feels authentic.
674
00:25:30,673 --> 00:25:33,277
- "Okay, fine.
I will give it to you.
675
00:25:33,277 --> 00:25:34,277
Don’t abuse it."
676
00:25:34,277 --> 00:25:36,881
- The number is 818-[bleep].
677
00:25:36,881 --> 00:25:37,848
Oh boy.
678
00:25:37,848 --> 00:25:39,782
- So let’s see.
- Here we go.
679
00:25:39,782 --> 00:25:40,607
- Whoo!
680
00:25:40,607 --> 00:25:42,310
- Is he usually
pretty quick with stuff?
681
00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:43,178
- With me?
Yeah.
682
00:25:43,178 --> 00:25:44,749
I mean,
he used to be really quick.
683
00:25:44,749 --> 00:25:47,881
I’m not kidding,
like on the second.
684
00:25:48,442 --> 00:25:49,541
[chime]
- [gasps]
685
00:25:49,541 --> 00:25:51,277
- Oh--wait. What?
686
00:25:51,277 --> 00:25:52,079
We just got a text.
687
00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:56,815
- Okay.
- It’s from Elena Fer-Ferri--
688
00:25:56,815 --> 00:25:57,541
- Ferriera?
689
00:25:57,541 --> 00:25:59,475
- Ferriera.
- Ferriera. That’s him.
690
00:25:59,475 --> 00:26:01,277
- It says, "I don’t feel like
I’d abuse your number.
691
00:26:01,277 --> 00:26:03,673
I just want talk to you."
What is that name?
692
00:26:03,673 --> 00:26:05,541
- Elena is the girl
693
00:26:05,541 --> 00:26:09,211
that catfished
the guy that I was seeing.
694
00:26:09,211 --> 00:26:11,815
- Oh, so that confirms
695
00:26:11,815 --> 00:26:14,409
that that was him.
- Right.
696
00:26:14,409 --> 00:26:18,541
- But how like ballsy and bold
for you as "EJ"
697
00:26:18,541 --> 00:26:21,947
to be messaging from
this Elena Ferriera account
698
00:26:21,947 --> 00:26:23,848
like it’s just nothing?
- Crazy.
699
00:26:23,848 --> 00:26:25,541
- He did write something
before that was like,
700
00:26:25,541 --> 00:26:26,848
"I don’t wanna fight anymore."
701
00:26:26,848 --> 00:26:29,475
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
So what if we played into that?
702
00:26:29,475 --> 00:26:32,541
- Yeah.
- The old bait and switch.
703
00:26:32,541 --> 00:26:34,848
- Yes.
You could say something like
704
00:26:34,848 --> 00:26:39,277
I’ve actually been thinking
about how things used to be
705
00:26:39,277 --> 00:26:41,541
and I don’t
wanna fight anymore.
706
00:26:41,541 --> 00:26:42,673
I’d like to see you then.
707
00:26:42,673 --> 00:26:45,607
- So let’s say, "Would you be
willing to join a Zoom?"
708
00:26:45,607 --> 00:26:46,640
- Yeah.
709
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,640
- Sent.
- All right.
710
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,376
I wonder
if he’ll actually do it.
711
00:26:50,376 --> 00:26:53,343
- I feel like you’re not
getting your hopes up.
712
00:26:53,343 --> 00:26:56,815
- No. With him, I--
you absolutely cannot.
713
00:26:56,815 --> 00:26:58,574
- Oh, read.
714
00:26:58,574 --> 00:27:00,607
- Ooh, ooh, ooh!
- [whispers] Oh, God,
715
00:27:00,607 --> 00:27:01,947
he’s writing, he’s writing.
716
00:27:01,947 --> 00:27:03,947
[tense music]
717
00:27:03,947 --> 00:27:06,980
- Why not?
You could always say like,
718
00:27:06,980 --> 00:27:08,848
if I’m being honest with you,
719
00:27:08,848 --> 00:27:11,815
I had to call in
some reinforcements.
720
00:27:11,815 --> 00:27:12,848
I really wanna meet you,
721
00:27:12,848 --> 00:27:16,706
and I felt like this was
the only way to make it happen.
722
00:27:16,706 --> 00:27:17,782
- Okay.
- All right.
723
00:27:17,782 --> 00:27:19,673
Let’s just read it once.
Okay.
724
00:27:19,673 --> 00:27:22,848
[Emma reading]
725
00:27:24,848 --> 00:27:25,947
- So I contacted "Catfish"
726
00:27:25,947 --> 00:27:27,749
because they’ve had
a lot of success
727
00:27:27,749 --> 00:27:28,607
in helping people meet
728
00:27:28,607 --> 00:27:31,881
and feel comfortable,
seen and understood.
729
00:27:31,881 --> 00:27:33,607
- All right. Wow. Sent.
730
00:27:33,607 --> 00:27:34,673
- Let’s see.
731
00:27:34,673 --> 00:27:37,442
[chime]
- Ooh, ooh, ooh!
732
00:27:37,442 --> 00:27:38,409
- Oh, come on.
733
00:27:38,409 --> 00:27:41,409
- "Now isn’t a good time."
When is a good time?
734
00:27:41,409 --> 00:27:41,947
- Right.
735
00:27:41,947 --> 00:27:43,541
- Well, now I think--
- Now, is the only time.
736
00:27:43,541 --> 00:27:45,409
- It’s now or never for me.
737
00:27:45,409 --> 00:27:46,914
- Be like, if not,
I mean, just don’t--
738
00:27:46,914 --> 00:27:50,881
like, we don’t need to be
in contact, take care.
739
00:27:51,475 --> 00:27:52,673
- I mean, I hate to say it,
740
00:27:52,673 --> 00:27:54,673
but I just
don’t think they care.
741
00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:56,541
[chime]
Oh. Oh!
742
00:27:56,541 --> 00:27:58,815
- Good job.
- I can’t believe that worked.
743
00:27:58,815 --> 00:28:01,640
Copy in my link.
- Oh my goodness.
744
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,749
- Say here.
745
00:28:04,881 --> 00:28:05,980
- Oh!
- Read it.
746
00:28:05,980 --> 00:28:07,442
- [groaning] Ohh...
747
00:28:07,442 --> 00:28:08,541
All right.
748
00:28:08,541 --> 00:28:09,749
- Are you ready?
749
00:28:09,749 --> 00:28:11,343
- We’ll see.
750
00:28:11,343 --> 00:28:13,673
- He said he’s outside
your house.
751
00:28:13,673 --> 00:28:15,046
- Right.
- And he wasn’t there.
752
00:28:15,046 --> 00:28:17,079
So him saying
okay, I’ll do it,
753
00:28:17,079 --> 00:28:20,409
is not giving me
a lot of confidence.
754
00:28:20,409 --> 00:28:21,782
- No.
755
00:28:21,980 --> 00:28:24,409
I hate that
it’s taking too long.
756
00:28:24,409 --> 00:28:26,607
[chime]
- Oh.
757
00:28:30,121 --> 00:28:31,824
- Are you ready?
- We’ll see.
758
00:28:31,824 --> 00:28:33,616
[groaning]
759
00:28:33,616 --> 00:28:35,055
[chime]
- Oh.
760
00:28:35,055 --> 00:28:36,923
- Hey.
761
00:28:38,923 --> 00:28:41,352
- Hello?
- Who is this?
762
00:28:41,352 --> 00:28:42,451
- Uh, this is EJ.
763
00:28:42,451 --> 00:28:44,791
- Thank you for talking
to us here.
764
00:28:44,791 --> 00:28:46,616
Obviously, there’s a lot
of questions we have,
765
00:28:46,616 --> 00:28:49,517
but before we sort of
start firing away,
766
00:28:49,517 --> 00:28:51,989
I’d love to just give you
an opportunity
767
00:28:51,989 --> 00:28:52,824
to introduce yourself.
768
00:28:52,824 --> 00:28:56,682
- Oh yeah. Well, my name’s EJ,
and I’m 22.
769
00:28:56,682 --> 00:28:57,748
I just wanna start by saying,
770
00:28:57,748 --> 00:29:00,682
I’m sorry for using
somebody else’s picture.
771
00:29:00,682 --> 00:29:02,682
- That’s like the least
of my concern, though.
772
00:29:02,682 --> 00:29:05,956
You’ve gone to some
pretty serious extent.
773
00:29:05,956 --> 00:29:07,791
I don’t think you
realize how much
774
00:29:07,791 --> 00:29:09,385
it’s affected me as a person.
775
00:29:09,385 --> 00:29:14,022
- I think this is just
the first time
776
00:29:14,022 --> 00:29:16,022
I’ve really cared about
someone.
777
00:29:16,022 --> 00:29:21,484
Before this,
I really never dated anybody.
778
00:29:21,484 --> 00:29:25,055
So I don’t know how to react
to like my emotions,
779
00:29:25,055 --> 00:29:27,484
so they kind of just run wild.
780
00:29:27,484 --> 00:29:29,748
- You claim
that you care about me,
781
00:29:29,748 --> 00:29:33,022
but then you have no issues
sending screenshots
782
00:29:33,022 --> 00:29:36,857
of pictures that I sent you,
trusting you,
783
00:29:36,857 --> 00:29:39,682
to someone
that I’m friends with.
784
00:29:39,682 --> 00:29:41,956
How do you tell me
that you care about me,
785
00:29:41,956 --> 00:29:43,088
but then you do things
786
00:29:43,088 --> 00:29:44,824
that show
you have no respect for me?
787
00:29:44,824 --> 00:29:48,550
- Sometimes, I don’t think
before I act on stuff.
788
00:29:48,550 --> 00:29:51,989
- Emma, I think you’re asking
all the right questions.
789
00:29:51,989 --> 00:29:56,956
I am very curious just to
clear up a few basic questions.
790
00:29:56,956 --> 00:29:57,956
- Go for it.
791
00:29:57,956 --> 00:29:59,824
- EJ, you run
the Instagram account
792
00:29:59,824 --> 00:30:00,989
that Emma’s been talking to.
793
00:30:00,989 --> 00:30:02,824
- Yeah.
- And is it just you?
794
00:30:02,824 --> 00:30:05,418
you’re the only person that
she’s ever communicated with?
795
00:30:05,418 --> 00:30:09,484
- No, I’m not the only person
she’s communicated with.
796
00:30:09,484 --> 00:30:11,517
- Okay.
So can you clarify that for us?
797
00:30:11,517 --> 00:30:13,121
- Well, I think
the biggest person
798
00:30:13,121 --> 00:30:16,616
that she’s communicated with
is Jake,
799
00:30:16,616 --> 00:30:17,857
the actual guy in the pictures.
800
00:30:17,857 --> 00:30:20,824
He would use the Instagram
to cheat on his girlfriend
801
00:30:20,824 --> 00:30:23,385
so he wouldn’t have it
traced back to him.
802
00:30:23,385 --> 00:30:26,748
- But the picture on your
Instagram was of Jake.
803
00:30:26,748 --> 00:30:29,055
So that’s not a very good
disguise account.
804
00:30:29,055 --> 00:30:30,484
That doesn’t seem like
it makes sense.
805
00:30:30,484 --> 00:30:33,154
If you’re trying to sneakily
talk to women as someone else,
806
00:30:33,154 --> 00:30:35,616
why would you have an account
with your picture on it?
807
00:30:35,616 --> 00:30:38,550
- Well, his girlfriend
is blocked on the page, so--
808
00:30:38,550 --> 00:30:41,187
- That doesn’t really
make sense.
809
00:30:41,187 --> 00:30:42,517
Here’s where
it gets really confusing.
810
00:30:42,517 --> 00:30:45,187
You say you have
real feelings for Emma.
811
00:30:45,187 --> 00:30:46,649
Why on earth would you be okay
812
00:30:46,649 --> 00:30:49,418
with Jake talking to Emma,
the girl you like?
813
00:30:49,418 --> 00:30:51,890
- He only talked to her
a couple of times.
814
00:30:51,890 --> 00:30:53,154
- But you just said
a second ago
815
00:30:53,154 --> 00:30:56,484
that the biggest person
Emma had talked to was Jake.
816
00:30:56,484 --> 00:30:58,824
- Well, in the--in the--
in the very beginning,
817
00:30:58,824 --> 00:31:02,418
before I actually
caught feelings for her.
818
00:31:02,418 --> 00:31:06,088
- And then Kyle
stole whose phone?
819
00:31:06,088 --> 00:31:08,154
- My phone.
He started texting Emma.
820
00:31:08,154 --> 00:31:10,857
I didn’t know about it,
and he did some pretty,
821
00:31:10,857 --> 00:31:11,791
you know, [bleep, bleep].
822
00:31:11,791 --> 00:31:15,418
- Why are you taking
all the heat for this then?
823
00:31:15,418 --> 00:31:17,748
- Yeah, where’s Kyle
and where’s Jake?
824
00:31:17,748 --> 00:31:19,154
- Just because
they played football,
825
00:31:19,154 --> 00:31:22,022
they didn’t wanna be involved
or be embarrassed.
826
00:31:22,022 --> 00:31:24,121
- How do you explain
the Cameo?
827
00:31:24,121 --> 00:31:24,989
If you know Jake,
828
00:31:24,989 --> 00:31:26,748
then wouldn’t you just
text Jake and be like,
829
00:31:26,748 --> 00:31:28,451
"Yo bro,
can you send me this video
830
00:31:28,451 --> 00:31:30,890
for this girl I’m talking to?"
He’s your boy.
831
00:31:30,890 --> 00:31:32,923
So you would just hit him up
and ask him.
832
00:31:32,923 --> 00:31:35,121
- Yeah, but he wouldn’t
do that.
833
00:31:35,121 --> 00:31:38,989
- It just doesn’t make
any sense.
834
00:31:38,989 --> 00:31:41,484
So I’m gonna give you
an opportunity
835
00:31:41,484 --> 00:31:43,187
to just try that again,
836
00:31:43,187 --> 00:31:46,550
because Emma doesn’t want to
have talked to the real Jake.
837
00:31:46,550 --> 00:31:47,253
That’s weird.
838
00:31:47,253 --> 00:31:51,220
Also, it involves Jake and I
don’t want people to think
839
00:31:51,220 --> 00:31:53,187
that he’s some sort of weird...
- Scumbag.
840
00:31:53,187 --> 00:31:57,715
- Sleaze who’s using Finsta
accounts to talk to girls.
841
00:31:57,715 --> 00:32:00,923
It’s not fair to Jake
if that’s not true.
842
00:32:00,923 --> 00:32:04,583
So are you sure Jake
used your Instagram account
843
00:32:04,583 --> 00:32:05,824
to talk to girls,
or is that the story
844
00:32:05,824 --> 00:32:08,824
that you had made up
and you’re sticking to it?
845
00:32:08,824 --> 00:32:12,022
- No, that’s 100% the truth.
846
00:32:14,253 --> 00:32:15,154
- Why don’t we get into
847
00:32:15,154 --> 00:32:18,956
what happened
with you reaching out to Tyler?
848
00:32:18,956 --> 00:32:21,583
- And telling him
that I was dead.
849
00:32:21,583 --> 00:32:23,088
- What was that about?
850
00:32:23,088 --> 00:32:24,682
- I don’t really know.
851
00:32:24,682 --> 00:32:26,220
I don’t really have
an answer for that.
852
00:32:26,220 --> 00:32:29,187
I mean, acting out of anger.
853
00:32:29,187 --> 00:32:30,154
- Why were you so angry?
854
00:32:30,154 --> 00:32:35,220
- Just because I knew that we
weren’t getting back together,
855
00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:39,616
so I was hurt and I was
just acting off my emotions.
856
00:32:39,616 --> 00:32:44,923
- So why don’t we explain
how Tyler came into possession
857
00:32:44,923 --> 00:32:46,616
of her nudes that you sent him?
858
00:32:46,616 --> 00:32:48,286
Why don’t we talk
about that part?
859
00:32:48,286 --> 00:32:50,154
- I don’t know, I just--
860
00:32:50,154 --> 00:32:52,616
I was sending them to her
friends, so I just felt like
861
00:32:52,616 --> 00:32:54,890
it wouldn’t matter
’cause she wouldn’t care.
862
00:32:54,890 --> 00:32:58,220
- She wouldn’t care
if her friend had access
863
00:32:58,220 --> 00:32:59,121
to nude photos of her?
864
00:32:59,121 --> 00:33:02,286
Would you care if your nudes
were sent about to your friends
865
00:33:02,286 --> 00:33:04,682
or if someone was selling them?
866
00:33:04,682 --> 00:33:06,253
- I never sold a nude.
867
00:33:06,253 --> 00:33:09,890
- So you were not behind the
fake Emma profile that was...
868
00:33:09,890 --> 00:33:11,956
- He was.
- Advertising nude photos
869
00:33:11,956 --> 00:33:13,121
of her for sale?
870
00:33:13,121 --> 00:33:15,824
- No.
- Then why would you tell her
871
00:33:15,824 --> 00:33:18,055
that you were selling
her pictures online?
872
00:33:18,055 --> 00:33:20,022
- Just because she wasn’t
talking to me
873
00:33:20,022 --> 00:33:22,857
so I just did it
just to get her attention.
874
00:33:22,857 --> 00:33:27,923
- That doesn’t even begin
to touch on the whole Elena...
875
00:33:27,923 --> 00:33:29,088
- Right. Yeah.
- Thing.
876
00:33:29,088 --> 00:33:32,923
Which is another account
that you made to talk to
877
00:33:32,923 --> 00:33:36,088
and flirt with the guy
that Emma was actually dating.
878
00:33:36,088 --> 00:33:39,253
- No.
- You’re not behind Elena?
879
00:33:39,253 --> 00:33:42,319
- No, I don’t know.
- Dude, listen.
880
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:44,956
The number that
Emma gave you is our phone,
881
00:33:44,956 --> 00:33:51,715
and when you texted, it came
from elenaferriera@[bleep].com.
882
00:33:51,715 --> 00:33:56,022
Why are your text messages
coming from Elena Ferriera?
883
00:33:57,154 --> 00:33:59,220
- I can’t explain.
884
00:33:59,220 --> 00:34:01,682
- Well, there’s a technical
explanation,
885
00:34:01,682 --> 00:34:05,385
which is that you are
signed in via that email.
886
00:34:05,385 --> 00:34:09,154
I’m not faking it.
That’s how you contacted us.
887
00:34:09,154 --> 00:34:12,989
[tense music]
888
00:34:12,989 --> 00:34:16,682
- I--I just--
889
00:34:17,649 --> 00:34:20,890
- Look, EJ, this is awkward
for all of us,
890
00:34:20,890 --> 00:34:22,857
and props to you for even...
891
00:34:22,857 --> 00:34:24,352
- Coming forward.
- Coming on here.
892
00:34:24,352 --> 00:34:27,616
You’ve made some decisions
that I think you regret.
893
00:34:27,616 --> 00:34:30,055
You’ve told a lot of lies
and you know,
894
00:34:30,055 --> 00:34:33,022
it’s uncomfortable
to--to sort of own up to that.
895
00:34:33,022 --> 00:34:35,088
But I think what you need
to understand is that
896
00:34:35,088 --> 00:34:38,890
we don’t necessarily need you
to clear this up for us.
897
00:34:38,890 --> 00:34:39,748
We know the truth.
898
00:34:39,748 --> 00:34:43,121
We’re giving you an opportunity
for your own sake,
899
00:34:43,121 --> 00:34:46,418
so that you can feel better
to say it for yourself.
900
00:34:46,418 --> 00:34:48,220
And so that Emma
can hear you say it,
901
00:34:48,220 --> 00:34:52,121
and we can see if there’s a way
to move past the negativity
902
00:34:52,121 --> 00:34:54,791
and find some positive outcome.
903
00:34:54,989 --> 00:34:58,682
- Emma just wants the truth,
and she deserves the truth.
904
00:34:58,682 --> 00:35:01,319
- It’s time to stop
[bleep] us,
905
00:35:01,319 --> 00:35:06,319
stop [bleep] yourself,
and just be real.
906
00:35:06,319 --> 00:35:09,055
[intense music]
907
00:35:11,843 --> 00:35:14,145
- Stop [bleep] us,
stop [bleep] yourself,
908
00:35:14,212 --> 00:35:15,713
and just be real.
909
00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:18,183
- Are you ready
to tell the truth?
910
00:35:19,417 --> 00:35:20,752
- Yeah.
911
00:35:20,819 --> 00:35:23,087
- Okay.
Let's start from the beginning
912
00:35:23,154 --> 00:35:25,757
and just give us the truth,
and just lay it out.
913
00:35:25,824 --> 00:35:27,759
- How many profiles
are out there?
914
00:35:27,826 --> 00:35:32,831
- Right now
I only have maybe three.
915
00:35:32,897 --> 00:35:34,532
Maybe three. Yeah.
916
00:35:34,599 --> 00:35:36,000
- So Elena is you?
917
00:35:36,067 --> 00:35:38,269
- Yeah.
- Yes.
918
00:35:38,336 --> 00:35:40,705
- Right.
- Okay.
919
00:35:40,772 --> 00:35:43,208
- The fake Emma profile is you?
920
00:35:43,274 --> 00:35:44,809
- Yeah.
921
00:35:44,876 --> 00:35:46,978
- And then obviously
the profile with Jake's picture
922
00:35:47,045 --> 00:35:49,013
was also you the whole time?
923
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,081
- Yeah.
924
00:35:52,183 --> 00:35:55,253
- Why does your phone number
come back to a Tiana [bleep]?
925
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,888
- Oh, because
it's my dead name.
926
00:36:01,726 --> 00:36:03,027
- Mm-hmm.
927
00:36:05,029 --> 00:36:05,964
- Mm-mm.
928
00:36:07,265 --> 00:36:11,503
So not a fiancé?
You've never been engaged?
929
00:36:11,569 --> 00:36:13,805
- No.
- Being that that is
930
00:36:13,872 --> 00:36:15,640
your dead name,
we will not be using it again.
931
00:36:15,707 --> 00:36:18,343
Why not tell Emma that
932
00:36:18,409 --> 00:36:21,913
when she asked you
about the phone results?
933
00:36:22,013 --> 00:36:27,852
- Just being scared to just be
honest and be myself.
934
00:36:27,919 --> 00:36:30,722
- Disclosure is a very
difficult thing to do.
935
00:36:30,789 --> 00:36:33,124
That is a very
understandable thing.
936
00:36:33,191 --> 00:36:37,796
But your behavior is not.
It is pretty appalling
937
00:36:37,862 --> 00:36:40,832
the things
that you have put Emma through.
938
00:36:40,899 --> 00:36:43,535
In your quest of
being close to her,
939
00:36:43,601 --> 00:36:46,037
you were trying to
force Emma's hand
940
00:36:46,070 --> 00:36:49,073
the way that you were
sending her nudes out.
941
00:36:49,140 --> 00:36:51,342
You're upset, so you send
somebody's pictures out?
942
00:36:51,409 --> 00:36:53,912
You don't have the right
to do something like that,
943
00:36:54,045 --> 00:36:56,181
because I'm sure you wouldn't
want that done to you.
944
00:36:56,247 --> 00:37:00,351
It is difficult to understand
how someone who has decided
945
00:37:00,418 --> 00:37:03,087
to live an authentic life
946
00:37:03,154 --> 00:37:07,258
is leading such an inauthentic
life on the side,
947
00:37:07,325 --> 00:37:11,429
doing all of this.
Like, come on.
948
00:37:11,496 --> 00:37:14,399
- I think obviously
I have anger issues.
949
00:37:14,466 --> 00:37:17,535
So for me,
like when I do certain things,
950
00:37:17,602 --> 00:37:20,505
I don't even know that
I'm doing them in the moment.
951
00:37:20,572 --> 00:37:23,408
'Cause I'll do it, and then
it'll be brought back up to me
952
00:37:23,475 --> 00:37:24,576
and I'm like,
"No, I didn't do that."
953
00:37:24,642 --> 00:37:26,878
But I actually did do it.
954
00:37:27,011 --> 00:37:28,413
I sort of just,
I don't know, black out
955
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,582
I guess you could say,
956
00:37:30,648 --> 00:37:32,283
- But what brings
that anger on?
957
00:37:32,350 --> 00:37:34,185
Was it something
about Emma specifically?
958
00:37:34,252 --> 00:37:36,287
- Yeah. Did I do something?
- No. No.
959
00:37:36,354 --> 00:37:40,758
Like I was just in
too deep, like emotionally.
960
00:37:40,825 --> 00:37:44,662
I think there was just like
abandonment issues.
961
00:37:44,729 --> 00:37:48,533
From like childhood
to like now,
962
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,604
I don't really understand
like how to handle people
963
00:37:52,670 --> 00:37:55,106
just--just leaving, I guess.
964
00:37:55,173 --> 00:37:57,909
- So you think the times
when Emma may have threatened
965
00:37:58,042 --> 00:38:00,345
to stop talking to you
that could have triggered
966
00:38:00,411 --> 00:38:03,681
sort of that anger
or fear of abandonment
967
00:38:03,748 --> 00:38:05,350
and--and then caused you
968
00:38:05,416 --> 00:38:08,153
to retaliate
with harsh words or threats?
969
00:38:08,219 --> 00:38:09,454
- Yeah.
970
00:38:09,521 --> 00:38:11,389
- Who do you have
to talk to about that?
971
00:38:11,456 --> 00:38:15,226
- Right now, I don't talk
to anybody about this stuff.
972
00:38:15,293 --> 00:38:18,096
- Well, I think that it's gonna
be vital for you.
973
00:38:18,163 --> 00:38:20,165
It will help you avoid
974
00:38:20,231 --> 00:38:22,000
situations like this
in the future.
975
00:38:22,066 --> 00:38:25,303
So before you can have
any relationships with anyone,
976
00:38:25,370 --> 00:38:30,074
and before you can truly live
in authentic life
977
00:38:30,141 --> 00:38:32,811
you gotta start talking
to somebody professionally
978
00:38:32,877 --> 00:38:35,013
about the things that
you're feeling on the inside.
979
00:38:35,046 --> 00:38:40,018
Until you unlock some of
what's going on in here,
980
00:38:40,018 --> 00:38:42,287
it's gonna fester in your life
981
00:38:42,353 --> 00:38:46,124
and you're never gonna be
able to just live freely.
982
00:38:46,191 --> 00:38:48,393
- I agree.
- Okay.
983
00:38:48,460 --> 00:38:52,197
- You're not alone, and you
deserve to find somebody
984
00:38:52,263 --> 00:38:54,466
who accepts you
and loves you for you.
985
00:38:54,532 --> 00:38:56,067
That's what we want for you.
986
00:38:56,134 --> 00:38:58,369
But it's not gonna be
with Emma.
987
00:38:58,436 --> 00:39:01,706
You are going to have
to let her go.
988
00:39:01,773 --> 00:39:03,641
You are not to text her,
hound her,
989
00:39:03,708 --> 00:39:05,477
text anybody in her life.
990
00:39:05,543 --> 00:39:09,047
Send pictures of her to
anyone--that is inappropriate.
991
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,817
It's out of [bleep] line.
You can't do that anymore.
992
00:39:12,884 --> 00:39:13,985
- I just think at this point
993
00:39:14,018 --> 00:39:16,121
there's been
too much damage done
994
00:39:16,187 --> 00:39:19,858
where I--I can't really
offer you anything anymore.
995
00:39:21,092 --> 00:39:23,261
I can't be in contact with you.
996
00:39:25,663 --> 00:39:27,365
- That's understandable.
997
00:39:27,432 --> 00:39:29,234
- It would be in
everyone's best interest
998
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:33,171
if you close any existing
profiles that you've created.
999
00:39:33,238 --> 00:39:35,206
- And deleting
the photos of Emma.
1000
00:39:35,273 --> 00:39:36,708
- Please.
1001
00:39:36,775 --> 00:39:38,276
- Got it.
1002
00:39:38,343 --> 00:39:40,512
- Thank you for coming forward
and being honest,
1003
00:39:40,578 --> 00:39:45,650
and explaining things to me.
It definitely has helped a lot.
1004
00:39:45,717 --> 00:39:48,119
I don't think you're necessary
a bad person.
1005
00:39:48,186 --> 00:39:50,655
I just think
you made bad decisions.
1006
00:39:50,722 --> 00:39:52,457
- Thanks.
1007
00:39:52,524 --> 00:39:54,926
- All right, EJ.
- I wish you the best.
1008
00:39:55,026 --> 00:39:56,194
- Good luck.
- Take care.
1009
00:39:56,261 --> 00:39:58,463
- Thanks again.
- Bye.
1010
00:39:58,530 --> 00:40:01,199
- Oh man.
1011
00:40:01,266 --> 00:40:04,235
- It doesn't feel like it ended
on a positive note,
1012
00:40:04,302 --> 00:40:06,838
but it does feel like it ended.
1013
00:40:06,905 --> 00:40:08,206
- No, I was going to say
1014
00:40:08,273 --> 00:40:09,974
it definitely feels
like it's ended
1015
00:40:10,008 --> 00:40:11,476
- And now, hopefully,
1016
00:40:11,543 --> 00:40:15,814
you can move forward and
meet people in your real life.
1017
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,984
- I appreciate all the help
that you guys provided me with.
1018
00:40:20,018 --> 00:40:21,286
- Got your back, girl.
1019
00:40:21,352 --> 00:40:22,687
- Good luck with everything.
1020
00:40:22,754 --> 00:40:24,856
- Thank you, guys.
1021
00:40:24,989 --> 00:40:26,791
- See ya.
- Bye.
1022
00:40:26,858 --> 00:40:29,394
- ♪ I been up late
thinkin' 'bout you, girl ♪
1023
00:40:29,461 --> 00:40:31,563
♪ Thinkin' 'bout you, girl,
thinkin' 'bout you, girl ♪
1024
00:40:31,629 --> 00:40:34,132
♪ I can't stay here knowin'
that it's true 'cause ♪
1025
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:36,634
♪ I know I know I know ♪
1026
00:40:36,701 --> 00:40:38,002
♪ We can't go back ♪
1027
00:40:38,002 --> 00:40:39,637
♪ ♪
1028
00:40:39,704 --> 00:40:42,807
♪ For we both, we both,
we both deserve the best ♪
1029
00:40:42,874 --> 00:40:44,242
♪ ♪
1030
00:40:44,309 --> 00:40:45,677
♪ I wish you well ♪
1031
00:41:01,584 --> 00:41:02,519
- We got Gabby. She gets
this message from Kendrick.
1032
00:41:02,585 --> 00:41:03,853
They get closer and closer.
1033
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,422
- He talked about,
"Oh, I wanna be with you."
1034
00:41:05,488 --> 00:41:09,926
But he got shot, and he died.
It definitely hit me hard.
1035
00:41:09,993 --> 00:41:11,528
- That's him right there!
- What?
1036
00:41:11,594 --> 00:41:12,762
- Can I have a moment?
1037
00:41:12,829 --> 00:41:14,764
- It's like a real life
spamming mail.
1038
00:41:14,831 --> 00:41:16,833
[doorbell sound]
- Someone here?
1039
00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:19,135
Oh, hello?