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Single mom living in LA
meets Ace.
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- There's something
different about him.
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He's like,
"I'm ready to be a stepfather.
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I want to have children."
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So that's why I wanted to
just see what's going on.
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- Searching
of the phone number.
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- [gasps]
Pacific Payphone?
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- What?
And there's a map.
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- MacArthur Park.
- Yeah.
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We're actually
not that far from there.
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Here it is, okay.
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- Ready for the stakeout.
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- If anyone comes from there
or there, we'll see them.
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There's someone.
This could be our guy.
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[dramatic music]
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I got up at 6:15
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'cause I was supposed to have
a Reiki session this morning.
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And then my Reiki person
overslept.
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- That's very LA of you.
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That's when they do,
like, the...
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- It's basically meditation,
but they are there
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apparently channeling energy
in and around you.
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- I could do that right now.
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- Yeah, you wanna do
some Reiki on me?
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Oh, it works.
All right, let's get to work.
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- Let's go.
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[upbeat music]
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- All right, we're ready to go.
Okay.
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Email here from Tracii.
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- With two I's.
- Yep.
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"Dear Nev and Kamie,
my name is Tracii.
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"I'm a single mom, splitting
my time between LA and Vegas.
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"I've been talking to a guy
named Ace since May, 2020.
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Ace is ten years
younger than me."
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- ♪ I want you so badly ♪
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- "And he lives in Miami,
Atlanta, and Dallas."
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Hold on a second.
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So let's just take a walk
over to the map here.
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- The hotspot.
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- So he lives in Miami,
Dallas, and Atlanta.
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He literally lives in
the three top catfish cities.
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- Yeah, if he would've added
Michigan, it would have been--
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- Or states, right, the only
thing he's missing is Michigan.
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- Yeah, God.
- Unbelievable.
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"We met when he sent me
a friend request.
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"I saw we had a mutual friend,
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"so I figured
it was okay to respond.
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He's really cute and charming."
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- ♪ You got me losing sleep ♪
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- "We share the same interests,
and are both hard workers,
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"and he makes me laugh.
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"As a single mom,
dating isn't easy.
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"But Ace was quick
to let me know
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that my kids did not
scare him off."
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♪ ♪
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"Hearing a man say that,
has meant the world to me."
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- ♪ Off my mind ♪
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- "We talked a lot at first,
just through Messenger.
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"And then he asked
for my number,
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"and we started talking on
the phone almost every night.
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We still haven't videochatted
because he travels a lot."
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- The phone travels, too,
by the way.
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- Yeah.
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"There are a few numbers
he calls me from,
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"but lately,
it's been the same number,
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"and we talk
every night after work.
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"I did ask him why his numbers
change so much.
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"He said I was paranoid
and just brushed it off,
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"saying that it doesn't matter
where he's calling me from,
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just that he's calling."
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- I just don't like
the gaslighting
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- "Things are feeling
good with him,
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"and he's invited me to Miami
to meet him next month.
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"I'm excited,
but also a bit nervous
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because I've never done
anything like this before."
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♪ ♪
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"I hope you guys
can help me figure out
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"if this is a good idea
or a dead end.
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Thanks so much, Tracii."
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You're gonna go to Miami
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before you just jump
on a [bleep]ing FaceTime?
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- No.
Tracii, seems a little naive.
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- Let's text her.
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- "Hey, Tracii
It's Nev and Kamie.
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- "Can you jump on a Zoom?"
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- "Oh wow hi
how are you guys?"
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- All right, well, I think
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we can tell her
with pretty high confidence.
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It's not a good idea.
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- It's definitely
not a good idea.
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Hey.
- Hi.
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- How are you?
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- I'm great.
I'm doing good.
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- You look gorgeous.
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- Thank you so much.
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- Are you in Los Angeles?
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but I'm currently in Las Vegas
just visiting my mom right now.
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I just kind of go
back and forth.
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- What do you do?
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- I am a model,
aspiring singer,
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I'm a student,
and then single mother.
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I wear many hats.
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- Yeah.
- Yeah.
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- That's a full-time job
on school.
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- You're a beautiful woman.
You live in Los Angeles.
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You're single.
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How is this hap--what is
going on, guys?
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- I always attract the wrong
type of man, always.
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So that's why this guy,
Ace, is so different.
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- Go through the timeline
of when you met Ace,
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the entire scenario.
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- So we started talking
in May of last year.
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He said that he
just saw my picture.
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He thought I was beautiful.
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He started sending me messages,
and it was just always,
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you know, "Hello, beautiful,
good morning.
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I hope you have a blessed day."
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It was so different from,
you know,
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"Hey, girl send me,
you know, a picture of you."
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You know, just some guys
are just so vulgar.
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And so we talked for
a few months, like every day.
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He's also a model.
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So we talk about, you know,
the business a lot.
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That's another thing
that's a plus
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because we share
the same interest.
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you know, we understand
how it goes and how it works.
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- So he says he lives in Miami,
Atlanta, and Dallas.
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- He travels between
those three places
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but mostly lives in Texas.
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- You said you have
a mutual friend?
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- Yeah.
My cousin's name is Frank.
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So I asked my cousin
if he knew him personally,
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and he said,
"No, just from Facebook."
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- Okay.
- Okay.
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- This is a 26-year-old model.
Obviously he's on his phone.
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How can he not FaceTime?
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- It's always, like,
the lamest excuses.
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He'll just say like,
"Oh, my phone's tripping.
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I'm in an area where
you can't really hear me."
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- Okay, Tracii.
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But the changing phone numbers,
that's strange.
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You can acknowledge that.
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- It is.
Yeah, it is.
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- And yet you're still engaging
with this guy
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and getting deeper and deeper
into this relationship.
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- Yeah, I don't know.
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It's just like with Ace,
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he kind of caught me, you know,
like at a vulnerable time,
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I was just getting out
of a really bad relationship,
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and there was something
different about him.
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I felt like I can talk to him.
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He doesn't judge me on my past
versus my last relationship.
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He encourages me.
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He even talks
to me about my kids.
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He's like,
"I'm ready to be a stepfather.
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I want to have children."
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He's just different.
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You know, versus other guys,
they've just been so immature.
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- Do you guys say,
"I love you"?
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- I mean, I feel like sometimes
he wants to say it,
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but he hasn't said it,
but he's calling me a lot.
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He's calling me every day.
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- So you guys talk
on the phone a lot,
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and you text him, right?
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- He doesn't like to text.
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He likes to talk.
He'll call me.
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- But has he ever texted you?
- No.
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He likes to send me messages
from Facebook, or he'll call.
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Those are his two,
but mainly calling.
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He loves to just call.
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He's like,
"I don't like to text."
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"That's a lot, you know.
I have so much to say to you.
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I'd rather just say
it than text."
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- Weird, that's like
the reverse of everybody ever.
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- Right, all the catfish
are always like,
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"No, I can't call."
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- Right.
- "But like, I can text you."
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Do you feel like his voice
on the phone
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matches the pictures
that you're looking at?
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- Yeah, it sounds
like it matches.
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He has like a nice, soft,
kind of deep voice.
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- All right, well,
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I'love to see
what this guy looks like.
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- Okay.
- All right, here we go.
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Whoa, wow, okay.
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Definitely not
wearing underwear.
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- He's definitely not wearing
underwear there.
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So I said, "Well,
are you doing nude modeling?
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I mean, if you are,
you can let me know."
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And he's like, "No, you know,
I don't hide anything from you.
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I'm not--if I was doing that,
I would let you know."
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- I'm gonna be honest,
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he's giving me
gay escort vibes.
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- [gasps]
- [laughs]
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- Oh, my God.
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- But he is cute.
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- He's very handsome.
- Let me ask you something.
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You said you got out
of a bad relationship
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and that shortly after,
Ace showed up.
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- Mm-hmm.
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- Is there a chance that maybe
Ace could be your ex?
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Have you ever considered
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that maybe it
could be someone you know?
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- You've talked to Ace
so many times on the phone,
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I feel like, that you
should recognize the voice.
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- Exactly.
- Yeah, yeah.
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And what's going on
with this trip to Miami?
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- He wants me
to come next month.
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He said he'll fly me out.
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He'll get a nice hotel room.
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And, yeah, I'm supposed to go.
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First, I have to see
what's going on with this guy,
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but he's worth
checking out for sure.
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- Obviously, you need to know
more about this guy
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before you hop on a plane.
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- Definitely, yes.
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Just see, you know,
what's going on.
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You know,
I don't wanna be lied to.
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- All right,
so send us his Facebook,
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send us the phone numbers,
pictures that you have,
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and let us do an investigation
and see what we find.
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- Thank you so much.
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- Of course.
- Tracii, we got your back.
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- We will talk to you soon.
- Bye.
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- You know
it's not his pictures.
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It's not.
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That guy is not gonna have an
issue with getting on FaceTime.
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- Right, the unfortunate
reality is that Tracii doesn't
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feel like she can meet
good guys in person.
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I'm just worried that if this
doesn't work out for her,
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it's gonna mean she's gonna
stop looking for guys
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altogether and basically
just give up on dating.
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I'm nervous about
what we're gonna find.
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- Okay, recap.
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- Okay, we've got Tracii,
single mom living in LA.
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She's a model, meets Ace.
He's very kind.
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And he seems like he is great,
except for the fact
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that he changes
his number all the time.
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And they've yet to FaceTime,
but she's planning
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on meeting up with him
in Miami next month.
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And why we're even being
brought in is for her to decide
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whether or not she's actually
gonna go forward with it.
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Good recap?
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00:09:24,064 --> 00:09:28,166
- For sure.
All right, let's dive in.
245
00:09:28,235 --> 00:09:31,770
Should have an email here
from Tracii.
246
00:09:31,838 --> 00:09:33,805
There it is, oh.
"Hey Nev and Kamie.
247
00:09:33,874 --> 00:09:35,140
"Thank you so much
for your help.
248
00:09:35,208 --> 00:09:36,942
"Here's everything
I know on Ace.
249
00:09:37,010 --> 00:09:39,344
"His full name is Ace Davis.
250
00:09:39,413 --> 00:09:41,947
"The pictures he sent me
are attached.
251
00:09:42,015 --> 00:09:43,682
There are more pictures
on his Facebook page."
252
00:09:43,750 --> 00:09:45,183
And she linked it.
253
00:09:45,252 --> 00:09:47,519
"And he lives in Miami,
Atlanta, and Dallas.
254
00:09:47,588 --> 00:09:50,355
He's used a few numbers,
a (424) number,
255
00:09:50,424 --> 00:09:53,325
a (323) number,
(213) number.
256
00:09:53,393 --> 00:09:56,328
And so all the numbers he's
had are California numbers.
257
00:09:56,396 --> 00:09:59,364
"He mentioned calling me today
around 4:00,
258
00:09:59,433 --> 00:10:01,533
"so that's probably
the next time we'll talk.
259
00:10:01,602 --> 00:10:03,101
"Let me know
if you need anything else.
260
00:10:03,170 --> 00:10:04,202
"I'll be around today
if you need me.
261
00:10:04,271 --> 00:10:05,437
Thank you."
262
00:10:05,505 --> 00:10:07,205
All right, so let's dive
into this investigation.
263
00:10:07,274 --> 00:10:09,074
Let me save these pictures.
Okay.
264
00:10:09,142 --> 00:10:10,976
Let's see what we can find.
265
00:10:11,044 --> 00:10:13,778
[tense music]
266
00:10:13,847 --> 00:10:15,080
Okay, so no hit there.
267
00:10:15,148 --> 00:10:17,148
How about the flexing one
on the terrace
268
00:10:17,217 --> 00:10:20,585
by the ocean
in the green briefs?
269
00:10:20,654 --> 00:10:24,089
All right, how about this one?
No match.
270
00:10:24,157 --> 00:10:26,958
Is this even working?
271
00:10:27,027 --> 00:10:31,529
Oh, yeah!
We got a hit.
272
00:10:31,598 --> 00:10:33,064
- Ooh!
- We got a hit.
273
00:10:33,133 --> 00:10:35,233
- Ace!
- Whoa!
274
00:10:35,302 --> 00:10:36,768
- No.
- Wait a second.
275
00:10:36,837 --> 00:10:38,036
- Ace Rockwood.
276
00:10:38,105 --> 00:10:40,939
- What?
Black guys on the [bleep].
277
00:10:41,008 --> 00:10:43,308
- Does that mean, like,
hard wieners?
278
00:10:43,377 --> 00:10:49,047
- Ahh!
It does mean hard wieners.
279
00:10:49,116 --> 00:10:52,617
I put on my glasses
at just the right moment.
280
00:10:52,686 --> 00:10:54,486
- Holy moly.
281
00:10:54,554 --> 00:10:56,421
So he's definitely
a nude model.
282
00:10:56,490 --> 00:10:58,923
- But he told Tracii--
- He wasn't.
283
00:10:58,992 --> 00:10:59,991
- That he wasn't.
284
00:11:00,060 --> 00:11:01,493
- But more importantly,
285
00:11:01,561 --> 00:11:04,629
it looks like this guy's name
is actually Ace.
286
00:11:04,698 --> 00:11:06,865
Or his professional
name is Ace Rockwood, sorry.
287
00:11:06,933 --> 00:11:08,700
- His stage name.
- Right, right.
288
00:11:08,769 --> 00:11:10,402
- Oh, Rockwood.
289
00:11:10,470 --> 00:11:14,072
- Oh.
- Oh.
290
00:11:14,141 --> 00:11:15,974
- Of course.
291
00:11:16,043 --> 00:11:17,942
- It's all making sense now.
- All right.
292
00:11:18,011 --> 00:11:20,545
Well, so this one comes up
on a bunch of different sites.
293
00:11:20,614 --> 00:11:23,948
- Gay porn [bleep].
- Oh, yeah.
294
00:11:24,017 --> 00:11:25,450
- Rockwood, gay model.
295
00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:28,086
- Hold on.
There's a Twitter.
296
00:11:28,155 --> 00:11:32,057
- This is all, it's gay porn.
This is a lot.
297
00:11:32,125 --> 00:11:33,925
It's a lot of--
- This is a lot for me.
298
00:11:33,994 --> 00:11:36,394
- [laughs]
299
00:11:36,463 --> 00:11:39,064
There's a lot going on.
- There's a video.
300
00:11:39,132 --> 00:11:42,167
- Buenos días, amigos.
Good morning, y'all.
301
00:11:42,235 --> 00:11:43,501
- Well, this is good
'cause his voice is in it.
302
00:11:43,570 --> 00:11:44,736
- Right.
303
00:11:44,805 --> 00:11:46,438
- So on the off chance
it could still be him.
304
00:11:46,506 --> 00:11:48,973
Maybe his secret is that
he's a gay porn star.
305
00:11:49,042 --> 00:11:50,275
- Yeah, yeah.
306
00:11:50,343 --> 00:11:52,210
There's a possibility
that this Ace
307
00:11:52,279 --> 00:11:53,712
is who Tracii's
talking to, so--
308
00:11:53,780 --> 00:11:55,714
- Right, because he did say
his name was Ace.
309
00:11:55,782 --> 00:11:57,148
- Right.
310
00:11:57,217 --> 00:12:00,852
- Maybe he was like gay
for pay and did porn,
311
00:12:00,921 --> 00:12:02,253
gay porn, at one point,
312
00:12:02,322 --> 00:12:04,289
but he's interested in women
only, and like--
313
00:12:04,357 --> 00:12:05,890
- Or maybe interested in both.
314
00:12:05,959 --> 00:12:08,660
- Maybe interested in both and
never brought it up to Tracii.
315
00:12:08,729 --> 00:12:10,628
- It could be
that they're the same person,
316
00:12:10,697 --> 00:12:12,997
and he just gave her
a different last name.
317
00:12:13,066 --> 00:12:14,766
And she's actually
talking to Ace Rockwood.
318
00:12:14,835 --> 00:12:16,901
- Well, should we try
to find--I feel like we need
319
00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:19,704
to do better research to find
who the real Ace Rockwood is.
320
00:12:19,773 --> 00:12:23,675
- Let's go to Instagram.
I wonder if Ace has a page.
321
00:12:23,744 --> 00:12:25,376
Oh, yeah.
Oh, [bleep].
322
00:12:25,445 --> 00:12:27,345
- OfficialAceRockwood.
323
00:12:27,414 --> 00:12:28,713
Here he's with a girl.
324
00:12:28,782 --> 00:12:31,249
"If you love what we do,
then it'll be very easy
325
00:12:31,318 --> 00:12:33,384
for you to love
the latest update, too."
326
00:12:33,453 --> 00:12:36,554
So it looks like he does
different types of porn.
327
00:12:36,623 --> 00:12:38,490
- The Ace that Tracii's
talking to told her
328
00:12:38,558 --> 00:12:40,458
that he doesn't have
other social media.
329
00:12:40,527 --> 00:12:41,793
- Right, although,
330
00:12:41,862 --> 00:12:43,328
maybe he told her that
because he doesn't want her
331
00:12:43,396 --> 00:12:44,863
to find out
that he's a porn star.
332
00:12:44,931 --> 00:12:46,097
- We don't know.
333
00:12:46,166 --> 00:12:47,766
- But we could
reach out to him.
334
00:12:47,834 --> 00:12:51,936
Let me find his--all right.
Let's send him a message.
335
00:12:52,005 --> 00:12:53,304
"This is Nev from "Catfish,"
336
00:12:53,373 --> 00:12:54,873
"and we're hoping
you could chat with us quickly
337
00:12:54,941 --> 00:12:56,174
"about an episode
we're filming right now.
338
00:12:56,243 --> 00:12:57,842
Let me know."
339
00:12:57,911 --> 00:13:00,478
Okay, all right,
so that now leaves us...
340
00:13:00,547 --> 00:13:02,347
We've got three phone numbers
to try.
341
00:13:02,415 --> 00:13:06,017
Searching of the phone number.
342
00:13:06,086 --> 00:13:07,418
- Oh, Sprint.
343
00:13:07,487 --> 00:13:09,621
- Oh, it was a Sprint number.
344
00:13:09,689 --> 00:13:12,624
All right, let's run
a different number.
345
00:13:12,692 --> 00:13:13,892
- T-Mobile.
346
00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,093
- Another actual cell phone.
347
00:13:15,162 --> 00:13:16,694
- We have a third number.
348
00:13:16,763 --> 00:13:19,364
- Yeah, this is
his newest number.
349
00:13:19,432 --> 00:13:21,533
- Pacific Payphone?
- What?
350
00:13:21,601 --> 00:13:22,901
- That's the potential owner.
351
00:13:22,969 --> 00:13:24,903
- Well, that's a first.
352
00:13:24,971 --> 00:13:26,704
- But location is Los Angeles.
353
00:13:26,773 --> 00:13:28,373
- And then the a map.
354
00:13:28,441 --> 00:13:30,775
- MacArthur Park.
- Yeah, that's Downtown LA.
355
00:13:30,844 --> 00:13:33,545
We're actually not that far
from there.
356
00:13:33,613 --> 00:13:38,016
7th and Coronado.
7th, here it is, Coronado.
357
00:13:38,084 --> 00:13:41,519
What is this right here?
[bleep].
358
00:13:41,588 --> 00:13:43,354
- There's a payphone.
Isn't that a payphone?
359
00:13:43,423 --> 00:13:46,658
- Yeah, but she calls him
on that number, doesn't she?
360
00:13:46,726 --> 00:13:49,761
- No, they talk on Messenger.
He says, "I'm gonna call you."
361
00:13:49,830 --> 00:13:52,063
- Right, she said,
"He mentioned calling me
362
00:13:52,132 --> 00:13:54,465
today around 4:00."
363
00:13:54,534 --> 00:13:56,668
And this is
his current phone number.
364
00:13:56,736 --> 00:13:58,503
♪ ♪
365
00:13:58,572 --> 00:14:00,872
- Do you wanna go and, like,
stakeout the payphone?
366
00:14:00,941 --> 00:14:02,540
- Yeah!
367
00:14:02,609 --> 00:14:06,411
I mean, what an incredibly
rare opportunity we have.
368
00:14:06,479 --> 00:14:10,081
It comes up as that payphone.
369
00:14:10,150 --> 00:14:11,916
It's in Downtown LA.
370
00:14:11,985 --> 00:14:15,420
And if they're supposed
to talk today in an hour,
371
00:14:15,488 --> 00:14:19,157
we could just go and see
if anyone comes to the phone.
372
00:14:19,226 --> 00:14:20,959
- You've got that crazy
look in your eye.
373
00:14:21,027 --> 00:14:22,594
- This is crazy.
374
00:14:22,662 --> 00:14:25,163
This is exciting.
We're gonna catch this guy.
375
00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,566
- Here we go.
- All right.
376
00:14:28,635 --> 00:14:30,201
- I feel like a vlogger.
377
00:14:30,270 --> 00:14:32,003
[upbeat music]
378
00:14:32,072 --> 00:14:33,705
- All right.
This is a big deal.
379
00:14:33,773 --> 00:14:36,307
We're heading
to the specific payphone
380
00:14:36,376 --> 00:14:40,245
that might be where
our catfish is calling from.
381
00:14:40,313 --> 00:14:42,013
- Stakeout time.
382
00:14:42,082 --> 00:14:45,617
- Which seems insane that
a catfish would use a payphone,
383
00:14:45,685 --> 00:14:47,485
but maybe he's really
trying to stay,
384
00:14:47,554 --> 00:14:48,820
you know, kind of incognito.
385
00:14:48,889 --> 00:14:50,221
I don't know.
It's pretty wild.
386
00:14:50,290 --> 00:14:54,058
- ♪ Easy come and easy go,
I want it all ♪
387
00:14:54,127 --> 00:14:55,894
- ♪ I want it, I want it ♪
- ♪ Oh, I want it all ♪
388
00:14:55,962 --> 00:14:57,195
- It's just wild to me.
389
00:14:57,264 --> 00:15:00,298
I mean, you have to fall
on really hard times
390
00:15:00,367 --> 00:15:03,034
to not have access
to any kind of means
391
00:15:03,103 --> 00:15:05,169
of calling someone
other than a payphone.
392
00:15:05,238 --> 00:15:08,039
- Right, or unless, like,
you're really trying
393
00:15:08,108 --> 00:15:11,242
to keep your location
and your identity secret.
394
00:15:11,311 --> 00:15:14,212
- I mean, that is--that's
like spy [bleep].
395
00:15:14,281 --> 00:15:17,582
And then they've been talking
almost every night.
396
00:15:17,651 --> 00:15:20,118
for hours sometimes.
397
00:15:20,186 --> 00:15:22,353
- That's a long ass time
to be standing outside.
398
00:15:22,422 --> 00:15:25,690
But if he's in LA, what was
his plan for this Miami trip?
399
00:15:25,759 --> 00:15:27,225
Like, was he just gonna
ghost again
400
00:15:27,294 --> 00:15:29,160
and, like,
do some weird [bleep]?
401
00:15:29,229 --> 00:15:30,428
- Right.
402
00:15:30,497 --> 00:15:33,998
- I wanna bust him,
soon as he picks up the phone.
403
00:15:34,067 --> 00:15:37,368
- Text Tracii and--just
so she has a heads up.
404
00:15:37,437 --> 00:15:38,770
- "Hey, Tracii.
405
00:15:38,838 --> 00:15:42,340
Text us as soon
as Ace calls you."
406
00:15:42,409 --> 00:15:44,609
♪ ♪
407
00:15:44,678 --> 00:15:46,277
She said, "Hey!
Okay, I will."
408
00:15:46,346 --> 00:15:49,614
- ♪ Make my head spin 'round,
make my head spin ♪
409
00:15:49,683 --> 00:15:51,950
♪ Turn me upside down ♪
410
00:15:52,018 --> 00:15:54,619
- All right, we're very close.
There it is.
411
00:15:54,688 --> 00:15:57,455
Okay, all right.
So I'm gonna turn here.
412
00:15:57,524 --> 00:16:00,525
- ♪ Oh, I want it all ♪
413
00:16:00,593 --> 00:16:02,193
It's exactly 4:02.
414
00:16:02,262 --> 00:16:04,996
I don't see anyone
on the phone.
415
00:16:05,065 --> 00:16:07,598
All right, well, we're kind of
just far enough away from it
416
00:16:07,667 --> 00:16:10,768
that no one would look over
here and suspect that we were--
417
00:16:10,837 --> 00:16:12,236
- No, we look
very inconspicuous.
418
00:16:12,305 --> 00:16:14,706
- Yeah.
- I got the binoculars.
419
00:16:14,774 --> 00:16:17,842
- Where did you get those?
420
00:16:17,911 --> 00:16:21,512
- Ready for the stakeout.
Wrong way.
421
00:16:21,581 --> 00:16:23,214
- All right.
422
00:16:23,283 --> 00:16:26,951
So this is the liquor store,
and that is the payphone
423
00:16:27,020 --> 00:16:28,553
right there
that we were looking at.
424
00:16:28,621 --> 00:16:34,025
So if anyone comes from there
or there, we will see them.
425
00:16:34,094 --> 00:16:35,893
There is a guy
walking down the street.
426
00:16:35,962 --> 00:16:39,497
[tense music]
427
00:16:39,566 --> 00:16:41,265
- Do we look suspicious?
428
00:16:41,334 --> 00:16:43,534
- [indistinct]
429
00:16:43,603 --> 00:16:45,003
There he is.
There he is.
430
00:16:45,071 --> 00:16:46,571
- He's looking to
the left and right.
431
00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:49,507
Put it down.
You look like a narc.
432
00:16:49,576 --> 00:16:51,843
- So there's this guy.
433
00:16:51,911 --> 00:16:57,315
♪ ♪
434
00:16:57,384 --> 00:17:00,051
- Nobody using that
dusty ass payphone.
435
00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,520
- And that guy standing there,
is he getting on the phone?
436
00:17:02,589 --> 00:17:07,592
♪ ♪
437
00:17:07,660 --> 00:17:11,162
It's 4:12.
Where is this guy?
438
00:17:11,231 --> 00:17:13,965
- One thing about Ace,
he's not punctual.
439
00:17:14,034 --> 00:17:15,066
- He's not here yet.
440
00:17:15,135 --> 00:17:16,634
I'm starting
to get discouraged,
441
00:17:16,703 --> 00:17:18,636
but she also hasn't texted us
that they're on the phone yet.
442
00:17:18,705 --> 00:17:19,804
So--
- Right.
443
00:17:19,873 --> 00:17:21,572
- There is still a chance.
444
00:17:21,641 --> 00:17:22,874
- He said around 4:00.
445
00:17:22,942 --> 00:17:24,442
- Right.
- He didn't say at 4:00.
446
00:17:24,511 --> 00:17:26,778
- Right.
447
00:17:26,846 --> 00:17:29,447
Watch this guy.
He's walking over there?
448
00:17:29,516 --> 00:17:31,682
♪ ♪
449
00:17:31,751 --> 00:17:34,585
He is walking over
to the phone.
450
00:17:34,654 --> 00:17:37,288
This could be our guy.
451
00:17:37,357 --> 00:17:38,956
Right to the payphone.
452
00:17:39,025 --> 00:17:40,958
Is he gonna stop?
He's gonna stop.
453
00:17:41,027 --> 00:17:44,529
He's gonna stop.
He's gonna stop.
454
00:17:44,597 --> 00:17:47,198
No.
[phone dings]
455
00:17:47,267 --> 00:17:48,866
- [gasps]
- Oh, is that her?
456
00:17:48,935 --> 00:17:51,602
- He's on the phone now.
- [Bleep].
457
00:17:51,671 --> 00:17:53,604
He must be using
a different payphone.
458
00:17:53,673 --> 00:17:55,006
All right.
459
00:17:55,075 --> 00:17:56,474
- Is he on another payphone?
460
00:17:56,543 --> 00:17:58,409
Let's just cruise around
the block a couple times
461
00:17:58,478 --> 00:18:00,078
and see if we see someone
on a payphone.
462
00:18:00,146 --> 00:18:01,479
- Damn.
463
00:18:01,548 --> 00:18:04,415
♪ ♪
464
00:18:04,484 --> 00:18:06,217
I mean, truthfully,
465
00:18:06,286 --> 00:18:10,822
to see anyone on a payphone
in 2021 will be a rare sight.
466
00:18:10,890 --> 00:18:16,127
♪ ♪
467
00:18:16,196 --> 00:18:18,596
- No, that's
the closest payphone.
468
00:18:18,665 --> 00:18:20,198
- That's the payphone.
469
00:18:20,266 --> 00:18:23,534
- Man, I really thought
we'd caught this catfish,
470
00:18:23,603 --> 00:18:27,839
and now I just feel like
we're back to square one.
471
00:18:27,907 --> 00:18:29,474
One way or another,
472
00:18:29,542 --> 00:18:31,209
we are gonna
catch this person.
473
00:18:32,979 --> 00:18:35,079
- Yesterday was both thrilling
and disappointing.
474
00:18:35,148 --> 00:18:36,447
- Yeah.
475
00:18:36,516 --> 00:18:37,748
- I really thought
we were gonna catch him
476
00:18:37,817 --> 00:18:40,885
like, picking up the phone,
dialing that number.
477
00:18:40,954 --> 00:18:42,286
Nothing.
478
00:18:42,355 --> 00:18:46,791
- I mean, I'm just so curious
how that number and the fact
479
00:18:46,860 --> 00:18:49,494
that it comes up
as a payphone at that location
480
00:18:49,562 --> 00:18:51,696
is related in any way,
481
00:18:51,764 --> 00:18:55,500
or if it's just completely
random, strange nonsense.
482
00:18:55,568 --> 00:18:57,368
♪ ♪
483
00:18:57,437 --> 00:19:00,338
- I don't know,
but I do know Tracii
484
00:19:00,406 --> 00:19:03,341
is not going to be very happy
when she finds out--
485
00:19:03,409 --> 00:19:04,742
- About Ace Rockwood.
486
00:19:04,811 --> 00:19:07,111
- About Ace Rockwood.
Did he message us back?
487
00:19:07,180 --> 00:19:13,217
- I don't think so.
So it says sent but not seen.
488
00:19:13,286 --> 00:19:15,887
- Ready to break the news?
489
00:19:15,955 --> 00:19:18,322
- You ready?
You ready?
490
00:19:18,391 --> 00:19:21,159
- You mean, am I ready to sleep
on the couches behind you guys?
491
00:19:21,227 --> 00:19:23,094
Absolutely.
492
00:19:23,163 --> 00:19:25,763
- All right.
Let's text our girl to join us.
493
00:19:25,832 --> 00:19:28,599
We can show Tracii
everything that we found.
494
00:19:28,668 --> 00:19:30,034
- She's going to be...
495
00:19:30,103 --> 00:19:32,570
[upbeat music]
496
00:19:32,639 --> 00:19:34,372
Hey, Tracii.
497
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,073
- Hi.
- Hello.
498
00:19:36,142 --> 00:19:38,242
- I like this marigold.
499
00:19:38,311 --> 00:19:41,078
- Oh, thank you.
500
00:19:41,147 --> 00:19:42,813
- How are you?
501
00:19:42,882 --> 00:19:45,950
- Oh, I'm just, like, anxious.
I've been anxious all morning.
502
00:19:46,019 --> 00:19:48,186
I couldn't get any sleep.
[sighs]
503
00:19:48,254 --> 00:19:49,887
- All right.
Well, look did some research.
504
00:19:49,956 --> 00:19:51,989
We actually had
a pretty wild day yesterday.
505
00:19:52,058 --> 00:19:53,357
- Okay.
506
00:19:53,426 --> 00:19:55,026
- We definitely have some
things we need to talk about.
507
00:19:55,094 --> 00:19:57,562
- Okay.
- So I'm gonna share my screen.
508
00:19:57,630 --> 00:19:59,297
All right.
509
00:19:59,365 --> 00:20:01,866
So when we searched all of
the photos you had sent us...
510
00:20:01,935 --> 00:20:03,067
- Mm-hmm.
511
00:20:03,136 --> 00:20:05,236
- We did get a hit
on one of them.
512
00:20:05,305 --> 00:20:06,837
- Okay.
513
00:20:06,906 --> 00:20:10,007
- This picture came back
actually with a bunch of hits.
514
00:20:10,076 --> 00:20:11,342
- [gasps]
515
00:20:11,411 --> 00:20:13,477
- And one of them
is this website.
516
00:20:13,546 --> 00:20:18,482
- [gasps]
Oh, my God.
517
00:20:18,551 --> 00:20:20,251
- That's what I said.
518
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,420
- Wait a minute.
[gasps]
519
00:20:22,488 --> 00:20:25,690
Oh, my God!
520
00:20:25,758 --> 00:20:29,727
- We then also noticed the name
for the person in these photos
521
00:20:29,796 --> 00:20:31,596
seems to be Ace Rockwood.
522
00:20:31,664 --> 00:20:33,931
- No wonder I couldn't find him
on Instagram
523
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,666
'cause it's
a different last name.
524
00:20:35,735 --> 00:20:36,867
- So after we saw that,
we're like,
525
00:20:36,936 --> 00:20:38,302
"Okay, well,
let's look up Ace Rockwood."
526
00:20:38,371 --> 00:20:40,071
- Oh, my God.
- So we did.
527
00:20:40,139 --> 00:20:45,676
And we found a video here
where he's acting in gay porn.
528
00:20:45,745 --> 00:20:48,312
- [gasps]
No!
529
00:20:48,381 --> 00:20:49,747
- But I want you
to hear his voice
530
00:20:49,816 --> 00:20:52,283
because it would be good
to know if it matches.
531
00:20:52,352 --> 00:20:53,751
- Oh, my God.
532
00:20:53,820 --> 00:20:56,787
- Buenos días, amigos.
Good morning, y'all.
533
00:20:56,856 --> 00:20:59,457
- Does that
voice sound familiar?
534
00:20:59,525 --> 00:21:02,126
- Yeah,
it sounds like his voice.
535
00:21:02,195 --> 00:21:04,061
- Really?
- Yeah.
536
00:21:04,130 --> 00:21:06,864
- Interesting, so basically,
we found the pictures,
537
00:21:06,933 --> 00:21:09,700
we found the Ace Rockwood,
and we messaged Ace
538
00:21:09,769 --> 00:21:11,068
off of his Instagram page,
539
00:21:11,137 --> 00:21:14,071
and we're waiting in the hopes
that he gets back to us.
540
00:21:14,140 --> 00:21:18,676
If it is him, if you are
talking to Ace Rockwood,
541
00:21:18,745 --> 00:21:21,312
and he somehow felt
he should omit
542
00:21:21,381 --> 00:21:23,514
much of the details
of his professional career
543
00:21:23,583 --> 00:21:26,751
and personal sort of sex life,
544
00:21:26,819 --> 00:21:28,452
how would you feel
about that?
545
00:21:28,521 --> 00:21:32,556
- I would definitely not want
to talk to him anymore.
546
00:21:32,625 --> 00:21:34,458
I have no problem with that.
547
00:21:34,527 --> 00:21:35,726
You know, it's not that.
548
00:21:35,795 --> 00:21:37,395
It's just that,
549
00:21:37,463 --> 00:21:39,797
I've been talking to this man
all this time,
550
00:21:39,866 --> 00:21:41,499
and he's never even
mentioned--I've never
551
00:21:41,567 --> 00:21:43,334
seen anything like that.
552
00:21:43,403 --> 00:21:47,438
So it's like, what are you...
553
00:21:47,507 --> 00:21:49,073
- This guy's hiding something.
554
00:21:49,142 --> 00:21:51,309
That brings us
to the phone numbers.
555
00:21:51,377 --> 00:21:53,711
They came up as cell phones,
like, actual cell phones.
556
00:21:53,780 --> 00:21:54,879
- Mm-hmm.
557
00:21:54,947 --> 00:21:56,447
- But what we
immediately recognized
558
00:21:56,516 --> 00:21:58,849
was that they're also
Los Angeles phone numbers.
559
00:21:58,918 --> 00:22:00,418
- Did you not ask him
560
00:22:00,486 --> 00:22:03,120
why all of his numbers
were LA phone numbers?
561
00:22:03,189 --> 00:22:04,622
- I asked him that,
and he's just like,
562
00:22:04,691 --> 00:22:09,393
"Well, you know, eventually
I do wanna come out there."
563
00:22:09,462 --> 00:22:10,428
- Right.
564
00:22:10,496 --> 00:22:11,629
- And he said that he has a lot
565
00:22:11,698 --> 00:22:13,898
of friends and contacts
in California.
566
00:22:13,966 --> 00:22:16,300
So that was always it.
567
00:22:16,369 --> 00:22:17,868
- Well, check this out.
568
00:22:17,937 --> 00:22:19,904
The third number, which
is his most recent number,
569
00:22:19,972 --> 00:22:22,540
weirdly came back
to a Pacific Payphone.
570
00:22:22,608 --> 00:22:24,108
- What?
571
00:22:24,177 --> 00:22:26,677
- Which is not something
we've ever seen before.
572
00:22:26,746 --> 00:22:30,514
- Yeah.
- But it shows a location.
573
00:22:30,583 --> 00:22:32,116
- Oh.
574
00:22:32,185 --> 00:22:35,553
- And the location happens
to be, like, Downtown LA.
575
00:22:35,621 --> 00:22:37,088
- You told us that Ace
576
00:22:37,156 --> 00:22:38,622
was gonna be
calling you around 4:00.
577
00:22:38,691 --> 00:22:40,224
- Yeah.
578
00:22:40,293 --> 00:22:41,625
- It was around 3:00
when we searched the number
579
00:22:41,694 --> 00:22:42,927
and found this payphone.
580
00:22:42,995 --> 00:22:44,328
It isn't far from our office.
581
00:22:44,397 --> 00:22:46,697
So we got in the car.
We head Downtown,
582
00:22:46,766 --> 00:22:50,067
We went to this payphone
to do a little stakeout.
583
00:22:50,136 --> 00:22:51,635
- And is that
when I text you guys
584
00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:53,204
and said he was on the line?
585
00:22:53,272 --> 00:22:54,939
- Right, 'cause we thought
maybe some guy
586
00:22:55,007 --> 00:22:56,540
is gonna walk up to that phone.
587
00:22:56,609 --> 00:22:57,808
- Yeah.
588
00:22:57,877 --> 00:22:59,543
- And you're gonna
text us and say,
589
00:22:59,612 --> 00:23:01,779
"He's talking to me now,"
and we're gonna know who it is.
590
00:23:01,848 --> 00:23:03,614
- Yeah.
- But no one ever came.
591
00:23:03,683 --> 00:23:05,616
You got on the phone with Ace.
592
00:23:05,685 --> 00:23:08,619
We were sitting there, and
there was no one on that phone.
593
00:23:08,688 --> 00:23:10,721
- Oh, wow, oh.
594
00:23:10,790 --> 00:23:12,156
- What number did
he call you from?
595
00:23:12,225 --> 00:23:14,058
- He called me
from a private number.
596
00:23:14,127 --> 00:23:16,327
So I don't know,
maybe he's using...
597
00:23:16,396 --> 00:23:17,561
[phone dings]
598
00:23:17,630 --> 00:23:20,231
- Who's that?
- Ace.
599
00:23:20,299 --> 00:23:22,666
Ace is just
writing me back on Instagram.
600
00:23:22,735 --> 00:23:24,135
- Oh, my God.
What did he say?
601
00:23:24,203 --> 00:23:25,669
- He said,
"Hey, yes, I'm available.
602
00:23:25,738 --> 00:23:27,204
What do you need?"
603
00:23:27,273 --> 00:23:29,273
- Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
604
00:23:29,342 --> 00:23:34,044
- "Would love to get you
on a Zoom."
605
00:23:34,113 --> 00:23:36,680
- I mean, could it have been
Ace this whole time?
606
00:23:36,749 --> 00:23:38,883
- Oh, [bleep], I'm nervous.
607
00:23:38,951 --> 00:23:40,985
[tense music]
608
00:23:41,053 --> 00:23:42,653
- Oh, he hearted it.
Great.
609
00:23:42,722 --> 00:23:43,888
All right.
I'm sending him the link.
610
00:23:43,956 --> 00:23:46,624
- Oh, my God.
611
00:23:46,692 --> 00:23:48,626
[computer chimes]
- Oh, wait a second.
612
00:23:48,694 --> 00:23:50,060
Hey, all right.
What's up man?
613
00:23:50,129 --> 00:23:51,729
- Hey.
- Hey, hey, hey, how you doing?
614
00:23:51,798 --> 00:23:53,230
- We're good, we're good.
- Hi.
615
00:23:53,299 --> 00:23:55,065
- Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you.
616
00:23:55,134 --> 00:23:57,802
- Well, so Tracii's been
talking to someone
617
00:23:57,870 --> 00:24:00,738
for a little over a year now.
618
00:24:00,807 --> 00:24:02,973
- Okay.
- Whose name is Ace.
619
00:24:03,042 --> 00:24:06,577
Who looks exactly like you.
So I have to ask.
620
00:24:06,646 --> 00:24:09,914
Are you in an online
relationship with Tracii?
621
00:24:09,982 --> 00:24:14,685
- No, oh, oh, no.
I'm sorry, Tracii.
622
00:24:14,754 --> 00:24:17,054
- Okay.
- I'm sorry.
623
00:24:17,123 --> 00:24:18,422
- I'm sure this is probably
624
00:24:18,491 --> 00:24:19,957
not the first time
you've heard of someone
625
00:24:20,026 --> 00:24:21,592
making a fake profile of you.
626
00:24:21,661 --> 00:24:24,028
- No, I have fake pages
of me on Facebook,
627
00:24:24,096 --> 00:24:25,629
and I've never had a Facebook.
628
00:24:25,698 --> 00:24:28,098
- Oh, wow.
629
00:24:28,167 --> 00:24:31,368
- Okay, all right, well,
this was the answer we needed.
630
00:24:31,437 --> 00:24:34,672
You are just you and also
for you to clear your name
631
00:24:34,740 --> 00:24:36,707
and make sure people know
632
00:24:36,776 --> 00:24:38,509
A, you don't have
a Facebook page.
633
00:24:38,578 --> 00:24:40,277
- Never had one.
634
00:24:40,346 --> 00:24:43,247
- So if you're talking to
Ace Rockwood on Facebook...
635
00:24:43,316 --> 00:24:44,949
- You're not.
- You're not.
636
00:24:45,017 --> 00:24:46,650
- Oh, my God.
637
00:24:46,719 --> 00:24:49,119
- I'm sorry, Tracii,
that you went through that.
638
00:24:49,188 --> 00:24:52,223
That's so sad, but at least now
you get the real thing.
639
00:24:52,291 --> 00:24:54,058
- Thank you.
I really appreciate that.
640
00:24:54,126 --> 00:24:55,993
You're very handsome.
641
00:24:56,062 --> 00:24:57,795
- Do you date women?
- Yeah, yeah.
642
00:24:57,864 --> 00:25:00,097
I've had a relationship with
a woman before, more than one.
643
00:25:00,166 --> 00:25:01,899
- Do you live in Florida?
644
00:25:01,968 --> 00:25:03,834
- Yeah, yeah,
I live in Florida.
645
00:25:03,903 --> 00:25:06,904
- I just wanna know, okay, if
it's not you, then who is it?
646
00:25:06,973 --> 00:25:09,273
And why?
Why did they pick me?
647
00:25:09,342 --> 00:25:12,510
You know,
out of--this is crazy.
648
00:25:12,578 --> 00:25:15,913
We gotta find out who this guy
is, or girl, or, oh, God.
649
00:25:15,982 --> 00:25:17,681
- Whoever it is.
- All right.
650
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:19,116
- Thanks, Ace.
- Thank you, bye.
651
00:25:19,185 --> 00:25:20,951
Nice meeting you.
- Good luck.
652
00:25:21,020 --> 00:25:23,521
- [sighs]
Oh, my God.
653
00:25:23,589 --> 00:25:24,955
- All right, so look,
654
00:25:25,024 --> 00:25:26,757
we got some answers now
at least.
655
00:25:26,826 --> 00:25:28,826
It's not Ace Rockwood.
656
00:25:28,895 --> 00:25:32,563
- I'm trying not to get mad,
but it's just like, "Come on."
657
00:25:32,632 --> 00:25:36,367
Like, who is this person?
They're, like, wasting my time.
658
00:25:36,435 --> 00:25:38,202
Like, why?
659
00:25:38,271 --> 00:25:41,238
- ♪ Holding on so tight
'cause I'm afraid you might ♪
660
00:25:41,307 --> 00:25:44,108
♪ Might slip away ♪
661
00:25:44,176 --> 00:25:46,110
- There is nothing wrong
with being mad
662
00:25:46,178 --> 00:25:48,913
about your time being wasted
for over a year
663
00:25:48,981 --> 00:25:52,349
by a person who has lied to you
about seemingly everything.
664
00:25:52,418 --> 00:25:55,719
- Oh, my God.
665
00:25:55,788 --> 00:25:57,888
Yeah, it's very disappointing.
666
00:25:57,957 --> 00:26:00,024
Disappointing,
like, come on.
667
00:26:00,092 --> 00:26:02,359
This is embarrassing, too.
You know what I mean?
668
00:26:02,428 --> 00:26:05,663
Like, I don't understand why
someone would wanna do this.
669
00:26:05,731 --> 00:26:12,036
- ♪ Can't get
this moment frozen ♪
670
00:26:12,104 --> 00:26:13,671
♪ ♪
671
00:26:13,739 --> 00:26:17,041
- I'm sorry.
I didn't want to cry on camera.
672
00:26:17,109 --> 00:26:19,209
♪ ♪
673
00:26:19,278 --> 00:26:23,881
- ♪ So why don't we move
in slow motion ♪
674
00:26:23,950 --> 00:26:25,182
- Okay.
675
00:26:27,286 --> 00:26:31,188
- This [bleep]ing sucks.
676
00:26:31,257 --> 00:26:34,858
- Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
677
00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:37,761
I didn't want to cry on camera.
I look more stupid.
678
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:39,630
- No, it--there's
nothing stupid
679
00:26:39,699 --> 00:26:42,733
about putting yourself
out there to meet someone.
680
00:26:42,802 --> 00:26:45,703
What's stupid is somebody
[bleep]ing conning you
681
00:26:46,772 --> 00:26:47,938
that there's somebody
anthat they're not.k
682
00:26:48,007 --> 00:26:49,306
- Yeah.
683
00:26:49,375 --> 00:26:50,708
- It's okay for you to be sad,
684
00:26:50,776 --> 00:26:53,110
and it's okay for you
to be angry,
685
00:26:53,179 --> 00:26:55,446
but don't direct it
towards yourself
686
00:26:55,514 --> 00:26:57,181
as something you did wrong.
687
00:26:57,249 --> 00:26:59,650
We're gonna put that energy
where it belongs
688
00:26:59,719 --> 00:27:02,086
in the hands of Ace,
whoever the [bleep] this is.
689
00:27:02,154 --> 00:27:03,754
- [laughs]
690
00:27:03,823 --> 00:27:06,590
- Now having discovered
that he's been misleading you,
691
00:27:06,659 --> 00:27:08,659
is there a reason
to continue forward
692
00:27:08,728 --> 00:27:12,930
and find out who this guy
you've been talking to is?
693
00:27:12,999 --> 00:27:16,533
- I would like to find out,
you know, who's doing it.
694
00:27:16,602 --> 00:27:18,135
I was getting out
of a bad relationship.
695
00:27:18,204 --> 00:27:19,436
Whoever this person is came in,
696
00:27:19,505 --> 00:27:20,738
and they helped me
get out of that.
697
00:27:20,806 --> 00:27:22,139
'Cause I really had
a hard time.
698
00:27:22,208 --> 00:27:23,574
I was really depressed.
699
00:27:23,643 --> 00:27:25,142
You know, and now I'm just,
like, nervous.
700
00:27:25,211 --> 00:27:26,510
I'm like, who could this be?
701
00:27:26,579 --> 00:27:28,812
This takes a lot.
Why would they do all of this?
702
00:27:28,881 --> 00:27:31,915
- Just feels a little,
like, intentional.
703
00:27:31,984 --> 00:27:33,384
- That's what makes it scary.
704
00:27:33,452 --> 00:27:36,086
- So I say
we reel this catfish in,
705
00:27:36,155 --> 00:27:37,755
and let them
explain themselves.
706
00:27:37,823 --> 00:27:39,023
Give them an opportunity
707
00:27:39,091 --> 00:27:42,059
to finally come out
from behind the mask.
708
00:27:42,128 --> 00:27:43,661
[tense music]
709
00:27:43,729 --> 00:27:45,262
- Oh, God.
710
00:27:45,331 --> 00:27:47,765
- So I can message him
or try calling him,
711
00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:49,199
but it's a payphone.
712
00:27:49,268 --> 00:27:50,768
All right.
Well, I'm gonna call him.
713
00:27:50,836 --> 00:27:52,636
Let me make sure
I have the right number.
714
00:27:52,705 --> 00:27:54,505
All right.
Let's see what happens.
715
00:27:54,573 --> 00:27:56,774
- Goodness.
- Oh, boy.
716
00:27:56,842 --> 00:27:57,908
[line trilling]
717
00:27:58,511 --> 00:28:00,244
[piercing beep]
718
00:28:00,312 --> 00:28:02,012
- A fax machine?
719
00:28:02,081 --> 00:28:03,547
- It's a payphone!
720
00:28:03,616 --> 00:28:05,349
- Why can't you call
a payphone?
721
00:28:05,418 --> 00:28:07,851
I mean, maybe you have
to pick it up right away.
722
00:28:08,954 --> 00:28:10,621
Maybe you can't call
Ipayphones anymore,w.
723
00:28:10,690 --> 00:28:12,823
but I'm basing my knowledge
on payphones from "Die Hard."
724
00:28:12,892 --> 00:28:15,192
- Right, 'cause in the movies,
you're walking by,
725
00:28:15,261 --> 00:28:16,794
it rings, you say, "Hello?"
726
00:28:16,862 --> 00:28:18,095
It be like,
"You got five minutes."
727
00:28:18,164 --> 00:28:19,196
- Right.
- "Meet me in the park."
728
00:28:19,265 --> 00:28:20,597
- We can't text him.
729
00:28:20,666 --> 00:28:23,300
So I'm gonna just send him
a message on Facebook.
730
00:28:23,369 --> 00:28:24,735
- Oh, wow.
731
00:28:24,804 --> 00:28:28,439
- "Hey Ace.
This is Nev from 'Catfish.'"
732
00:28:28,507 --> 00:28:29,873
All right.
I think that's pretty good.
733
00:28:29,942 --> 00:28:31,709
- He gonna have to get
to that phone.
734
00:28:31,777 --> 00:28:33,143
- Oh, my God.
735
00:28:33,212 --> 00:28:34,845
- Well, let's see
if he sees it.
736
00:28:34,914 --> 00:28:36,680
Is he usually pretty quick
with his Facebook Messenger?
737
00:28:36,749 --> 00:28:39,216
- Yeah, he's usually
pretty quick.
738
00:28:39,285 --> 00:28:40,984
[phone rings]
- Oh, that's the number.
739
00:28:41,053 --> 00:28:42,453
He's calling from it.
- The payphone.
740
00:28:42,521 --> 00:28:45,789
- Oh, it's the payphone.
- Okay.
741
00:28:45,858 --> 00:28:47,057
Hello?
742
00:28:49,628 --> 00:28:51,528
- Yeah, hey, this is Ace?
743
00:28:52,565 --> 00:28:54,531
- Hey, man, how you doing?
744
00:28:55,167 --> 00:28:57,868
- Good, good, do you know
about the show "Catfish?"
745
00:28:59,305 --> 00:29:00,771
- Okay, cool.
746
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,574
We're working on an episode now
with a lady
747
00:29:03,642 --> 00:29:08,212
who I think you've been
talking to named Tracii.
748
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,348
And we were just hoping
we could get you guys
749
00:29:11,417 --> 00:29:15,419
to meet up,
even virtually, face-to-face.
750
00:29:15,488 --> 00:29:17,588
We're in a Zoom,
and just full disclosure,
751
00:29:17,656 --> 00:29:18,989
I wanna be honest with you.
752
00:29:20,459 --> 00:29:25,496
that the pictures that you had
sent her are not actually you.
753
00:29:43,415 --> 00:29:45,783
- All right,
so I'll send you that link,
754
00:29:45,851 --> 00:29:47,684
and we'll--I look forward
to speaking with you.
755
00:29:48,954 --> 00:29:51,588
Thanks.
756
00:29:51,657 --> 00:29:53,223
He definitely was outside.
757
00:29:53,292 --> 00:29:57,127
- First of all,
that is the first time in years
758
00:29:57,196 --> 00:30:00,564
that I've actually heard
the phone be hung up.
759
00:30:00,633 --> 00:30:02,466
- Right, that's true.
- I heard it, too.
760
00:30:02,535 --> 00:30:04,368
- That's true, it clicked.
- It was a cl-clunk.
761
00:30:04,436 --> 00:30:05,836
- All right.
Well, I sent the link.
762
00:30:05,905 --> 00:30:07,070
- Oh, God, okay.
763
00:30:07,139 --> 00:30:08,772
- Wait, so he said
764
00:30:08,841 --> 00:30:12,109
that he tried to reach out to
you as himself and that you--
765
00:30:12,178 --> 00:30:14,077
- It must have been before.
766
00:30:14,146 --> 00:30:15,913
- When?
Yeah, who?
767
00:30:15,981 --> 00:30:18,782
- I mean, you might have had
people message you and try to--
768
00:30:18,851 --> 00:30:19,716
- Yeah.
769
00:30:19,785 --> 00:30:21,285
- Right,
it probably happens often.
770
00:30:21,353 --> 00:30:23,921
So it could have been any
number of guys who were like,
771
00:30:23,989 --> 00:30:25,255
"Hey, what's up?"
772
00:30:25,324 --> 00:30:28,425
- Oh, God, who is this?
773
00:30:28,494 --> 00:30:30,194
[computer chimes]
774
00:30:30,262 --> 00:30:33,063
[dramatic music]
775
00:30:33,132 --> 00:30:34,331
What is that?
776
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,067
- [indistinct]
777
00:30:37,136 --> 00:30:38,435
- Hello?
778
00:30:38,504 --> 00:30:41,738
♪ ♪
779
00:30:41,807 --> 00:30:43,607
- Hello.
780
00:30:43,676 --> 00:30:45,375
- Hello.
- Hello.
781
00:30:45,444 --> 00:30:47,511
- Hi.
- Hi there.
782
00:30:47,580 --> 00:30:49,479
- Obvious I'm not the person
in the picture.
783
00:30:49,548 --> 00:30:50,981
- Yes.
784
00:30:51,050 --> 00:30:54,318
I see here on the Zoom,
is your name Tyrone?
785
00:30:54,386 --> 00:30:55,919
Is that--
- Yeah.
786
00:30:55,988 --> 00:30:57,754
♪ ♪
787
00:30:57,823 --> 00:31:00,424
First of all, I wanna say,
sorry to everyone, you know,
788
00:31:00,492 --> 00:31:03,260
putting y'all on a wild
goose chase, especially Tracii.
789
00:31:03,329 --> 00:31:05,529
- Ah.
- Wow, you look so good.
790
00:31:05,598 --> 00:31:07,497
Oh my God, you look so good.
791
00:31:07,566 --> 00:31:08,765
- You know what?
792
00:31:08,834 --> 00:31:11,034
- But yeah,
I just wanna apologize
793
00:31:11,103 --> 00:31:14,071
and start off
with saying I'm sorry.
794
00:31:14,139 --> 00:31:15,439
- Okay.
- Wow.
795
00:31:15,507 --> 00:31:17,774
- So Tyrone, can you tell us
a little bit about yourself?
796
00:31:17,843 --> 00:31:20,544
'Cause we don't--you know,
we're all very curious.
797
00:31:20,613 --> 00:31:22,179
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
798
00:31:22,248 --> 00:31:27,718
So I am in LA, and I'm
an artist, digital artist,
799
00:31:27,786 --> 00:31:29,920
and I do some modeling
on the side,
800
00:31:29,989 --> 00:31:32,522
and I do travel
and all that jazz.
801
00:31:32,591 --> 00:31:35,158
Of course I like leather, and I
have a cat named King Julian
802
00:31:35,227 --> 00:31:39,029
who's on my bed over there,
which if you can see him.
803
00:31:39,098 --> 00:31:40,464
- [laughing]
804
00:31:40,532 --> 00:31:41,832
Wait a minute.
805
00:31:41,901 --> 00:31:44,101
There's no way
that this is the same person
806
00:31:44,169 --> 00:31:45,702
I've been talking
to the whole time.
807
00:31:45,771 --> 00:31:48,772
The voice, it's not the same.
808
00:31:48,841 --> 00:31:51,275
- Yeah, yeah, it's Ace, baby.
It's Ace.
809
00:31:51,343 --> 00:31:53,143
- [gasps]
Oh, my God.
810
00:31:53,212 --> 00:31:54,978
Okay, I'm gone.
I can't.
811
00:31:55,047 --> 00:31:56,313
- Yeah.
812
00:31:56,382 --> 00:31:57,881
- Oh, my goodness.
813
00:31:57,950 --> 00:32:00,651
- Come back.
Get it together, baby.
814
00:32:00,719 --> 00:32:02,986
- Oh, my God.
815
00:32:04,423 --> 00:32:05,555
- It's Ace, baby.
It's Ace.
816
00:32:05,624 --> 00:32:06,823
- [gasps]
Oh, my God.
817
00:32:06,892 --> 00:32:08,692
Okay, I'm done.
I can't.
818
00:32:08,761 --> 00:32:10,060
- Yeah.
819
00:32:10,129 --> 00:32:11,561
- Oh, my goodness.
Oh, my goodness.
820
00:32:11,630 --> 00:32:14,331
- Come back.
Get it together, baby.
821
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,900
- Oh, my God.
822
00:32:18,804 --> 00:32:20,037
- Is she gonna come back?
823
00:32:20,105 --> 00:32:22,372
- Well, until she does,
824
00:32:22,441 --> 00:32:25,442
you seem like
a very confident guy.
825
00:32:25,511 --> 00:32:27,811
- No, not necessarily.
826
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,280
I have my insecurities, too,
just like everyone else.
827
00:32:30,349 --> 00:32:31,915
- Yeah, sure, yeah.
828
00:32:31,984 --> 00:32:34,117
- But you got a lot going on,
so what the [bleep]
829
00:32:34,186 --> 00:32:38,722
are you doing on the internet
pretending to be Ace Rockwood?
830
00:32:38,791 --> 00:32:40,958
I can't help
how I feel about Tracii.
831
00:32:41,026 --> 00:32:44,161
I mean, my feelings are real.
I'm just in a different form.
832
00:32:44,229 --> 00:32:46,363
You know,
she could still get Ace.
833
00:32:46,432 --> 00:32:49,866
[tense music]
834
00:32:49,935 --> 00:32:51,969
Oh, she's back.
835
00:32:52,037 --> 00:32:54,905
♪ ♪
836
00:32:56,909 --> 00:33:00,143
- Okay, I'm sorry.
I just needed a moment.
837
00:33:00,212 --> 00:33:02,112
- That's fine.
- Yeah.
838
00:33:02,181 --> 00:33:05,449
- Hey, I know--look,
I know I did a [bleep] thing.
839
00:33:05,517 --> 00:33:07,684
I did a very [bleep] thing.
840
00:33:07,753 --> 00:33:09,953
- And for a long time, too,
it wasn't just like a week
841
00:33:10,022 --> 00:33:12,622
or two, or you know,
even that would've been bad,
842
00:33:12,691 --> 00:33:15,792
but it's been damn
near a year, like--
843
00:33:15,861 --> 00:33:18,395
- My heart is still here
for you honestly.
844
00:33:18,464 --> 00:33:21,365
I really like you
because your energy,
845
00:33:21,433 --> 00:33:23,133
you're a wonderful mother.
846
00:33:23,202 --> 00:33:25,168
and you're just
this cinnamon bear
847
00:33:25,237 --> 00:33:26,403
that I just love.
848
00:33:26,472 --> 00:33:27,971
I just want a nibble on you.
849
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,406
- That's creepy.
850
00:33:29,475 --> 00:33:30,941
- And I told you a thing
I like about whipped cream.
851
00:33:31,010 --> 00:33:32,242
I really meant it.
852
00:33:32,311 --> 00:33:34,077
I like whipped cream
with chocolate.
853
00:33:34,146 --> 00:33:35,612
- Um...
854
00:33:35,681 --> 00:33:39,049
- And I wanna eat that
body-ody-ody-ody-ody, eh, eh.
855
00:33:39,118 --> 00:33:42,786
- Well...
- [laughing]
856
00:33:42,855 --> 00:33:45,255
- You know, I like your
chocolate self, come on now.
857
00:33:45,324 --> 00:33:46,890
It's nothing but love
for you, baby.
858
00:33:46,959 --> 00:33:48,325
- Oh, my God.
859
00:33:48,394 --> 00:33:49,593
- And I'm willing
to get this hair of mine
860
00:33:49,661 --> 00:33:52,329
and rub it in your under
"beyondas" and your whoo-ha,
861
00:33:52,398 --> 00:33:53,463
and get you all excited.
862
00:33:53,532 --> 00:33:54,898
- Oh, um...
863
00:33:54,967 --> 00:33:57,401
- You know, it's all real
for you, it's all real.
864
00:33:57,469 --> 00:34:00,137
- We can go ahead
and pass on all that.
865
00:34:00,205 --> 00:34:01,838
- What is going on?
866
00:34:01,907 --> 00:34:03,907
- Well, I mean, look,
Tyrone, it would be great
867
00:34:03,976 --> 00:34:05,809
if you could drop the act,
and we could just say,
868
00:34:05,878 --> 00:34:08,645
take it down a little bit
'cause I want to talk to you,
869
00:34:08,714 --> 00:34:11,248
and I don't want you to feel
like you need to perform,
870
00:34:11,316 --> 00:34:12,849
I just want you to talk to us.
871
00:34:12,918 --> 00:34:15,719
First of all, it would appear
to us that you have
872
00:34:15,788 --> 00:34:19,022
at least recently been talking
to her via a payphone.
873
00:34:19,091 --> 00:34:20,791
Are we right about that?
874
00:34:20,859 --> 00:34:24,861
- Yeah, it's actually
right next to my apartment.
875
00:34:24,930 --> 00:34:27,130
- And why are you
using a payphone?
876
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:31,168
- Because she'll find out
my true identity super fast.
877
00:34:31,236 --> 00:34:33,303
All she has to do--you know
us millennials,
878
00:34:33,372 --> 00:34:36,206
you know, this generation,
period, is super smart.
879
00:34:36,275 --> 00:34:38,375
You can easily just put
somebody phone in Facebook,
880
00:34:38,444 --> 00:34:39,843
and it pops up.
881
00:34:39,912 --> 00:34:41,344
- Right, right.
So you have been in LA?
882
00:34:41,413 --> 00:34:42,846
- Yes.
883
00:34:42,915 --> 00:34:45,215
- You had told Tracii
that next month
884
00:34:45,284 --> 00:34:47,918
you were gonna fly her out
to Miami to visit you.
885
00:34:47,986 --> 00:34:50,454
Like, were you going
to do that?
886
00:34:50,522 --> 00:34:52,289
- What was the plan?
- Yeah.
887
00:34:52,357 --> 00:34:54,091
- Well, what I was gonna do
is like,
888
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:57,160
we were just gonna have
a little vacation.
889
00:34:57,229 --> 00:34:59,963
But eventually, I was gonna
show her my real self.
890
00:35:00,032 --> 00:35:02,199
I just didn't know how,
and that's another reason
891
00:35:02,267 --> 00:35:04,734
why I'm finding, like,
this "Catfish" is a blessing,
892
00:35:04,803 --> 00:35:07,637
and I might look a little silly
or goofy and all of that,
893
00:35:07,706 --> 00:35:09,372
but you know,
I know I deserve love,
894
00:35:09,441 --> 00:35:10,674
and you deserve it, too.
895
00:35:10,742 --> 00:35:14,744
- Absolutely, everyone
deserves love definitely,
896
00:35:14,813 --> 00:35:17,981
but the way you went about it
was just the wrong way.
897
00:35:18,050 --> 00:35:20,117
You know, you came in
with a lie, like you said,
898
00:35:20,185 --> 00:35:22,185
you reached out to me
before--I don't remember
899
00:35:22,254 --> 00:35:23,687
you ever reaching out to me.
900
00:35:23,755 --> 00:35:26,656
You could have approached me,
you know, the regular way.
901
00:35:26,725 --> 00:35:28,758
- Maybe it was
with a different profile,
902
00:35:28,827 --> 00:35:31,928
and I don't remember, but
I do remember Tracii [bleep].
903
00:35:31,997 --> 00:35:33,396
So I don't know.
904
00:35:33,465 --> 00:35:38,068
- You have other profiles other
than the Ace Davis profile?
905
00:35:38,137 --> 00:35:40,904
- Oh, shoot.
I done told on myself, hell.
906
00:35:40,973 --> 00:35:43,874
- Okay.
But my whole thing is, why?
907
00:35:43,942 --> 00:35:45,709
Doesn't it take extra
to sit here
908
00:35:45,777 --> 00:35:48,078
and make fake profiles
and do all this stuff?
909
00:35:48,147 --> 00:35:49,713
That's a lot.
910
00:35:49,781 --> 00:35:51,581
- Originally, the profiles
were just more like me
911
00:35:51,650 --> 00:35:53,984
spying on my exes
when I know they were cheating,
912
00:35:54,052 --> 00:35:56,319
and I ended up keeping
a lot of those profiles.
913
00:35:56,388 --> 00:36:00,056
And then as COVID, and
the protested,
914
00:36:00,125 --> 00:36:02,092
and George Floyd,
and all that other stuff,
915
00:36:02,161 --> 00:36:04,361
it really made me very sad
and depressed.
916
00:36:04,429 --> 00:36:08,698
I was going through a spiral of
an anxiety and missing people,
917
00:36:08,767 --> 00:36:12,202
human interaction,
so I made this profile Ace.
918
00:36:12,271 --> 00:36:14,871
- How many other profiles
do you have that you use?
919
00:36:14,940 --> 00:36:19,276
- I probably have
like 10 or 15.
920
00:36:19,344 --> 00:36:23,079
- But you do use your other
profiles to talk to people?
921
00:36:23,148 --> 00:36:24,581
- Yeah.
922
00:36:24,650 --> 00:36:28,051
- Some of them are
your ex relationships?
923
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,586
- Yes.
924
00:36:29,655 --> 00:36:30,854
- How many people are
you talking to
925
00:36:30,923 --> 00:36:33,623
right now including Tracii?
926
00:36:33,692 --> 00:36:38,228
- It's, like,
at least over 20, but--
927
00:36:38,297 --> 00:36:39,396
- Wow.
928
00:36:39,464 --> 00:36:41,364
- They're not
as serious as her.
929
00:36:41,433 --> 00:36:43,333
- And are you in love
with Tracii?
930
00:36:43,402 --> 00:36:44,868
- Yes.
931
00:36:44,937 --> 00:36:46,236
- And are you in love
with any of these other people?
932
00:36:46,305 --> 00:36:47,737
- No.
933
00:36:47,806 --> 00:36:49,306
- Do you love
any of these other people?
934
00:36:49,374 --> 00:36:50,840
- No, no.
935
00:36:50,909 --> 00:36:52,642
The other people,
they were just playing,
936
00:36:52,711 --> 00:36:54,511
and honestly,
a lot of them blocked me.
937
00:36:54,580 --> 00:36:55,946
- Tyrone, it sounds like
938
00:36:56,014 --> 00:36:57,380
you don't know
how to take a [bleep]ing hint.
939
00:36:57,449 --> 00:37:00,884
Like, why not just meet
somebody who likes you for you?
940
00:37:00,953 --> 00:37:02,152
- Exactly.
941
00:37:02,221 --> 00:37:05,055
- Why are you creating
these false personas
942
00:37:05,123 --> 00:37:07,190
and leading on
these long relationships
943
00:37:07,259 --> 00:37:10,627
- And wasting your time
checking out exes
944
00:37:10,696 --> 00:37:12,495
when you could be making new,
you know--
945
00:37:12,564 --> 00:37:14,264
- Exactly.
946
00:37:14,333 --> 00:37:15,966
- It honestly has been really
tough for me.
947
00:37:16,034 --> 00:37:18,034
I'm pansexual.
948
00:37:18,103 --> 00:37:20,670
So it's all
about energy for me.
949
00:37:20,739 --> 00:37:23,106
I have dated transgender.
950
00:37:23,175 --> 00:37:27,377
I've dated men and female,
and I don't really see sex,
951
00:37:27,446 --> 00:37:29,613
but it's so hard
to actually find somebody
952
00:37:29,681 --> 00:37:31,114
who actually loves all of this.
953
00:37:31,183 --> 00:37:32,816
And the first thing
they look at is the hair.
954
00:37:32,884 --> 00:37:34,818
And then the way
I present myself, I don't know.
955
00:37:34,886 --> 00:37:36,253
I don't know
if it's intimidating,
956
00:37:36,321 --> 00:37:37,954
or if it's just
a little too much for them.
957
00:37:38,023 --> 00:37:41,191
With the Ace character,
I just felt invincible.
958
00:37:41,260 --> 00:37:44,494
It was like the shield.
Like, I felt like Superman.
959
00:37:44,563 --> 00:37:46,296
- I get all of that.
960
00:37:46,365 --> 00:37:48,298
But for someone who has so much
going for themselves,
961
00:37:48,367 --> 00:37:51,167
for someone who is loud
and proud pansexual.
962
00:37:52,604 --> 00:37:54,938
- For someone who is living
in that kind of truth,
963
00:37:55,007 --> 00:37:59,075
to be upholding these lies
is just...
964
00:37:59,144 --> 00:38:00,744
- Hypocrite.
965
00:38:00,812 --> 00:38:04,247
- It makes no sense.
You have no reason to.
966
00:38:04,316 --> 00:38:08,685
You could meet somebody great,
but instead, we're channeling
967
00:38:08,754 --> 00:38:11,855
our sadness and anger
into multiple profiles.
968
00:38:11,923 --> 00:38:13,423
- I wish I could go back
in time and fix it,
969
00:38:13,492 --> 00:38:14,858
but I can't.
970
00:38:14,926 --> 00:38:17,594
You know, all I can do
is move forward from here.
971
00:38:17,663 --> 00:38:19,796
All I'm asking for
is forgiveness.
972
00:38:19,865 --> 00:38:21,831
You know, you don't have
to do it today,
973
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:24,901
'cause I don't wanna
come across as a douchebag,
974
00:38:24,970 --> 00:38:27,170
even though it's kind of
looking like I'm a douchebag.
975
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,574
But I really am genuinely sorry
for what I've put you through.
976
00:38:31,643 --> 00:38:33,109
[tense music]
977
00:38:33,178 --> 00:38:35,045
- I'd like to hear
from you, Tracii.
978
00:38:35,113 --> 00:38:37,314
I'm just curious kind of where
you are with everything.
979
00:38:37,382 --> 00:38:39,716
- Um...
980
00:38:39,785 --> 00:38:42,385
I'm a forgiving person.
I forgive him.
981
00:38:42,454 --> 00:38:44,554
You know,
I appreciate him apologizing.
982
00:38:44,623 --> 00:38:46,823
That still doesn't take away
983
00:38:46,892 --> 00:38:49,526
how I feel, like how
I was hurt and affected.
984
00:38:49,594 --> 00:38:52,762
You know, again,
I'll accept his apology,
985
00:38:52,831 --> 00:38:55,832
but I feel like anything
moving forward for me
986
00:38:55,901 --> 00:38:58,368
is definitely a hard no.
987
00:38:58,437 --> 00:39:01,438
[soft music]
988
00:39:01,506 --> 00:39:03,573
- Mm-hmm, that's fair.
- Yeah.
989
00:39:03,642 --> 00:39:06,643
I don't want any
communication going forward.
990
00:39:06,712 --> 00:39:08,278
- And it's gonna
take me some time
991
00:39:08,347 --> 00:39:11,047
to lose my medicine
for the day, you know,
992
00:39:11,116 --> 00:39:13,016
'cause you're like medicine
and you know.
993
00:39:13,085 --> 00:39:14,951
I'm just saying.
I'm just keeping it real.
994
00:39:15,020 --> 00:39:16,219
You're like a drug--
- Yeah.
995
00:39:16,288 --> 00:39:17,854
- That I can't
let go of, you know,
996
00:39:17,923 --> 00:39:22,292
but I know I gotta respect
your decision and your life.
997
00:39:22,361 --> 00:39:25,261
- All right, well, my questions
have been answered.
998
00:39:25,330 --> 00:39:27,130
I don't know if anyone else
has anything they need to say,
999
00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:29,899
but I think, Tyrone,
it was nice to meet you.
1000
00:39:29,968 --> 00:39:31,868
Now I think we'll say goodbye,
1001
00:39:31,937 --> 00:39:34,471
and I think it's safe to say
that should in the future,
1002
00:39:34,539 --> 00:39:37,574
Tracii want to reach out and
connect, it'll be up to her.
1003
00:39:37,642 --> 00:39:39,042
- She will find you.
1004
00:39:39,111 --> 00:39:40,610
- And she'll find you.
- Absolutely.
1005
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:43,847
And I am deleting the profile,
so I'm gonna get rid of that.
1006
00:39:43,915 --> 00:39:45,648
- Okay, all right, well, good.
1007
00:39:45,717 --> 00:39:47,283
- All right, Tyrone.
- Okay, Tyrone.
1008
00:39:47,352 --> 00:39:48,718
- Good luck.
1009
00:39:48,787 --> 00:39:50,653
- Bye-bye, thank you.
1010
00:39:50,722 --> 00:39:52,288
- Bye.
- See ya.
1011
00:39:52,357 --> 00:39:54,257
- Bye.
1012
00:39:54,326 --> 00:39:55,258
Awkward.
1013
00:39:55,327 --> 00:39:57,293
- The Lord bless him.
Bless his heart.
1014
00:39:57,362 --> 00:39:58,795
- Okay.
1015
00:39:58,864 --> 00:40:01,331
- Tracii, how are you?
1016
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,866
- A lot of emotions.
1017
00:40:02,934 --> 00:40:05,568
Maybe I just need to take
a break on dating for now
1018
00:40:05,637 --> 00:40:07,036
and just focus on other things
1019
00:40:07,105 --> 00:40:09,506
because it was already scary,
now it's scarier.
1020
00:40:09,574 --> 00:40:14,110
- We can't let Tyrone keep you
from meeting somebody special.
1021
00:40:14,179 --> 00:40:16,646
And, like, there's still
Ace Rockwood in Miami.
1022
00:40:16,715 --> 00:40:18,281
- Yeah.
- He's really cute.
1023
00:40:18,350 --> 00:40:19,983
- I mean, at this point,
if I were you,
1024
00:40:20,051 --> 00:40:22,685
I would be booking that flight.
1025
00:40:22,754 --> 00:40:24,521
- [laughs]
1026
00:40:24,589 --> 00:40:25,755
- Take care, Tracii.
1027
00:40:25,824 --> 00:40:26,956
- Thank you.
You guys, too.
1028
00:40:27,025 --> 00:40:28,558
Have a good rest of your day.
- Bye.
1029
00:40:28,627 --> 00:40:29,692
- Bye, thank you so much.
1030
00:40:29,761 --> 00:40:31,094
♪ ♪
1031
00:40:31,163 --> 00:40:34,998
- ♪ If your love's
in disguise ♪
1032
00:40:35,066 --> 00:40:37,667
♪ Then you're not loving
anyone but yourself ♪
1033
00:40:37,736 --> 00:40:41,538
♪ Some things never,
some things never ♪
1034
00:40:41,606 --> 00:40:45,475
♪ Some things never break ♪
1035
00:40:45,544 --> 00:40:50,914
♪ ♪
1036
00:40:52,984 --> 00:40:55,952
A year ago, Michael slides
into Romeo's DM.
[upbeat mu
1037
00:40:56,021 --> 00:40:57,387
- He was so generous
and so sweet.
1038
00:40:57,456 --> 00:40:59,189
He's saying he want
a future with me,
1039
00:40:59,257 --> 00:41:01,124
but I still haven't seen
this man yet.
1040
00:41:01,193 --> 00:41:02,592
- Oh!
1041
00:41:02,661 --> 00:41:04,661
- "I'm not a catfish."
1042
00:41:04,729 --> 00:41:05,962
- Some weird [bleep] is
going down.
1043
00:41:06,031 --> 00:41:08,531
- What is going on?
[computer chimes]
1044
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,433
- Oh.
- Oh, no.