1 00:00:01,402 --> 00:00:04,203 Single mom living in LA meets Ace. 2 00:00:04,271 --> 00:00:05,571 - There's something different about him. 3 00:00:05,639 --> 00:00:07,406 He's like, "I'm ready to be a stepfather. 4 00:00:07,475 --> 00:00:08,774 I want to have children." 5 00:00:08,843 --> 00:00:11,510 So that's why I wanted to just see what's going on. 6 00:00:11,579 --> 00:00:14,079 - Searching of the phone number. 7 00:00:14,148 --> 00:00:16,181 - [gasps] Pacific Payphone? 8 00:00:16,250 --> 00:00:17,583 - What? And there's a map. 9 00:00:17,651 --> 00:00:19,284 - MacArthur Park. - Yeah. 10 00:00:19,353 --> 00:00:20,819 We're actually not that far from there. 11 00:00:20,888 --> 00:00:22,254 Here it is, okay. 12 00:00:22,323 --> 00:00:23,822 - Ready for the stakeout. 13 00:00:23,891 --> 00:00:26,625 - If anyone comes from there or there, we'll see them. 14 00:00:26,694 --> 00:00:30,195 There's someone. This could be our guy. 15 00:00:30,264 --> 00:00:32,965 [dramatic music] 16 00:00:33,034 --> 00:00:34,900 I got up at 6:15 17 00:00:34,969 --> 00:00:37,236 'cause I was supposed to have a Reiki session this morning. 18 00:00:37,304 --> 00:00:39,905 And then my Reiki person overslept. 19 00:00:39,974 --> 00:00:41,106 - That's very LA of you. 20 00:00:41,175 --> 00:00:44,376 That's when they do, like, the... 21 00:00:44,445 --> 00:00:46,812 - It's basically meditation, but they are there 22 00:00:46,881 --> 00:00:49,214 apparently channeling energy in and around you. 23 00:00:49,283 --> 00:00:50,449 - I could do that right now. 24 00:00:50,518 --> 00:00:53,585 - Yeah, you wanna do some Reiki on me? 25 00:00:53,654 --> 00:00:57,523 Oh, it works. All right, let's get to work. 26 00:00:57,591 --> 00:00:58,891 - Let's go. 27 00:00:58,959 --> 00:01:00,526 [upbeat music] 28 00:01:00,594 --> 00:01:04,029 - All right, we're ready to go. Okay. 29 00:01:04,098 --> 00:01:05,864 Email here from Tracii. 30 00:01:05,933 --> 00:01:07,766 - With two I's. - Yep. 31 00:01:07,835 --> 00:01:11,336 "Dear Nev and Kamie, my name is Tracii. 32 00:01:11,405 --> 00:01:16,608 "I'm a single mom, splitting my time between LA and Vegas. 33 00:01:16,677 --> 00:01:21,080 "I've been talking to a guy named Ace since May, 2020. 34 00:01:21,148 --> 00:01:23,415 Ace is ten years younger than me." 35 00:01:23,484 --> 00:01:26,819 - ♪ I want you so badly ♪ 36 00:01:26,887 --> 00:01:30,055 - "And he lives in Miami, Atlanta, and Dallas." 37 00:01:30,124 --> 00:01:32,658 Hold on a second. 38 00:01:32,726 --> 00:01:34,760 So let's just take a walk over to the map here. 39 00:01:34,829 --> 00:01:35,994 - The hotspot. 40 00:01:36,063 --> 00:01:40,766 - So he lives in Miami, Dallas, and Atlanta. 41 00:01:40,835 --> 00:01:45,904 He literally lives in the three top catfish cities. 42 00:01:45,973 --> 00:01:47,506 - Yeah, if he would've added Michigan, it would have been-- 43 00:01:47,575 --> 00:01:49,208 - Or states, right, the only thing he's missing is Michigan. 44 00:01:49,276 --> 00:01:52,578 - Yeah, God. - Unbelievable. 45 00:01:52,646 --> 00:01:55,714 "We met when he sent me a friend request. 46 00:01:55,783 --> 00:01:57,516 "I saw we had a mutual friend, 47 00:01:57,585 --> 00:02:01,220 "so I figured it was okay to respond. 48 00:02:01,288 --> 00:02:03,355 He's really cute and charming." 49 00:02:03,424 --> 00:02:05,824 - ♪ You got me losing sleep ♪ 50 00:02:05,893 --> 00:02:09,094 - "We share the same interests, and are both hard workers, 51 00:02:09,163 --> 00:02:11,396 "and he makes me laugh. 52 00:02:11,465 --> 00:02:13,532 "As a single mom, dating isn't easy. 53 00:02:13,601 --> 00:02:15,767 "But Ace was quick to let me know 54 00:02:15,836 --> 00:02:18,137 that my kids did not scare him off." 55 00:02:18,205 --> 00:02:19,938 ♪ ♪ 56 00:02:20,007 --> 00:02:23,142 "Hearing a man say that, has meant the world to me." 57 00:02:23,210 --> 00:02:25,544 - ♪ Off my mind ♪ 58 00:02:25,613 --> 00:02:28,347 - "We talked a lot at first, just through Messenger. 59 00:02:28,415 --> 00:02:29,915 "And then he asked for my number, 60 00:02:29,984 --> 00:02:32,784 "and we started talking on the phone almost every night. 61 00:02:32,853 --> 00:02:36,421 We still haven't videochatted because he travels a lot." 62 00:02:36,490 --> 00:02:38,056 - The phone travels, too, by the way. 63 00:02:38,125 --> 00:02:39,491 - Yeah. 64 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,260 "There are a few numbers he calls me from, 65 00:02:41,328 --> 00:02:42,861 "but lately, it's been the same number, 66 00:02:42,930 --> 00:02:45,063 "and we talk every night after work. 67 00:02:45,132 --> 00:02:48,534 "I did ask him why his numbers change so much. 68 00:02:48,602 --> 00:02:51,103 "He said I was paranoid and just brushed it off, 69 00:02:51,172 --> 00:02:53,739 "saying that it doesn't matter where he's calling me from, 70 00:02:53,807 --> 00:02:54,773 just that he's calling." 71 00:02:54,842 --> 00:02:57,943 - I just don't like the gaslighting 72 00:02:58,012 --> 00:03:00,112 - "Things are feeling good with him, 73 00:03:00,181 --> 00:03:03,815 "and he's invited me to Miami to meet him next month. 74 00:03:03,884 --> 00:03:06,818 "I'm excited, but also a bit nervous 75 00:03:06,887 --> 00:03:09,021 because I've never done anything like this before." 76 00:03:09,089 --> 00:03:10,756 ♪ ♪ 77 00:03:10,824 --> 00:03:12,524 "I hope you guys can help me figure out 78 00:03:12,593 --> 00:03:15,460 "if this is a good idea or a dead end. 79 00:03:15,529 --> 00:03:17,863 Thanks so much, Tracii." 80 00:03:19,867 --> 00:03:20,933 You're gonna go to Miami 81 00:03:21,001 --> 00:03:23,268 before you just jump on a [bleep]ing FaceTime? 82 00:03:23,337 --> 00:03:27,339 - No. Tracii, seems a little naive. 83 00:03:27,408 --> 00:03:28,640 - Let's text her. 84 00:03:28,709 --> 00:03:30,842 - "Hey, Tracii It's Nev and Kamie. 85 00:03:30,911 --> 00:03:34,246 - "Can you jump on a Zoom?" 86 00:03:34,315 --> 00:03:37,115 - "Oh wow hi how are you guys?" 87 00:03:37,184 --> 00:03:38,350 - All right, well, I think 88 00:03:38,419 --> 00:03:39,818 we can tell her with pretty high confidence. 89 00:03:39,887 --> 00:03:40,886 It's not a good idea. 90 00:03:40,955 --> 00:03:42,854 - It's definitely not a good idea. 91 00:03:42,923 --> 00:03:44,523 Hey. - Hi. 92 00:03:44,592 --> 00:03:45,824 - How are you? 93 00:03:45,893 --> 00:03:47,659 - I'm great. I'm doing good. 94 00:03:47,728 --> 00:03:48,894 - You look gorgeous. 95 00:03:48,963 --> 00:03:50,128 - Thank you so much. 96 00:03:50,197 --> 00:03:51,630 - Are you in Los Angeles? 97 00:03:53,133 --> 00:03:56,101 but I'm currently in Las Vegas just visiting my mom right now. 98 00:03:56,170 --> 00:03:57,536 I just kind of go back and forth. 99 00:03:57,605 --> 00:03:58,437 - What do you do? 100 00:03:58,505 --> 00:04:01,406 - I am a model, aspiring singer, 101 00:04:01,475 --> 00:04:04,042 I'm a student, and then single mother. 102 00:04:04,111 --> 00:04:05,711 I wear many hats. 103 00:04:05,779 --> 00:04:06,812 - Yeah. - Yeah. 104 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,547 - That's a full-time job on school. 105 00:04:08,616 --> 00:04:10,649 - You're a beautiful woman. You live in Los Angeles. 106 00:04:10,718 --> 00:04:11,984 You're single. 107 00:04:12,052 --> 00:04:14,720 How is this hap--what is going on, guys? 108 00:04:14,788 --> 00:04:18,257 - I always attract the wrong type of man, always. 109 00:04:18,325 --> 00:04:21,793 So that's why this guy, Ace, is so different. 110 00:04:21,862 --> 00:04:24,997 - Go through the timeline of when you met Ace, 111 00:04:25,065 --> 00:04:26,498 the entire scenario. 112 00:04:26,567 --> 00:04:29,167 - So we started talking in May of last year. 113 00:04:29,236 --> 00:04:31,003 He said that he just saw my picture. 114 00:04:31,071 --> 00:04:32,604 He thought I was beautiful. 115 00:04:32,673 --> 00:04:35,340 He started sending me messages, and it was just always, 116 00:04:35,409 --> 00:04:37,075 you know, "Hello, beautiful, good morning. 117 00:04:37,144 --> 00:04:38,443 I hope you have a blessed day." 118 00:04:38,512 --> 00:04:41,313 It was so different from, you know, 119 00:04:41,382 --> 00:04:44,182 "Hey, girl send me, you know, a picture of you." 120 00:04:44,251 --> 00:04:46,451 You know, just some guys are just so vulgar. 121 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,221 And so we talked for a few months, like every day. 122 00:04:49,290 --> 00:04:50,756 He's also a model. 123 00:04:50,824 --> 00:04:52,924 So we talk about, you know, the business a lot. 124 00:04:52,993 --> 00:04:54,593 That's another thing that's a plus 125 00:04:54,662 --> 00:04:56,728 because we share the same interest. 126 00:04:58,098 --> 00:05:00,565 you know, we understand how it goes and how it works. 127 00:05:00,634 --> 00:05:03,602 - So he says he lives in Miami, Atlanta, and Dallas. 128 00:05:03,671 --> 00:05:05,904 - He travels between those three places 129 00:05:05,973 --> 00:05:08,307 but mostly lives in Texas. 130 00:05:08,375 --> 00:05:10,442 - You said you have a mutual friend? 131 00:05:10,511 --> 00:05:13,278 - Yeah. My cousin's name is Frank. 132 00:05:13,347 --> 00:05:16,381 So I asked my cousin if he knew him personally, 133 00:05:16,450 --> 00:05:18,283 and he said, "No, just from Facebook." 134 00:05:18,352 --> 00:05:19,951 - Okay. - Okay. 135 00:05:20,020 --> 00:05:22,988 - This is a 26-year-old model. Obviously he's on his phone. 136 00:05:23,057 --> 00:05:24,556 How can he not FaceTime? 137 00:05:24,625 --> 00:05:26,591 - It's always, like, the lamest excuses. 138 00:05:26,660 --> 00:05:28,593 He'll just say like, "Oh, my phone's tripping. 139 00:05:28,662 --> 00:05:31,129 I'm in an area where you can't really hear me." 140 00:05:31,198 --> 00:05:32,497 - Okay, Tracii. 141 00:05:32,566 --> 00:05:35,000 But the changing phone numbers, that's strange. 142 00:05:35,069 --> 00:05:36,301 You can acknowledge that. 143 00:05:36,370 --> 00:05:38,270 - It is. Yeah, it is. 144 00:05:38,339 --> 00:05:41,873 - And yet you're still engaging with this guy 145 00:05:41,942 --> 00:05:44,042 and getting deeper and deeper into this relationship. 146 00:05:44,111 --> 00:05:46,678 - Yeah, I don't know. 147 00:05:46,747 --> 00:05:48,680 It's just like with Ace, 148 00:05:48,749 --> 00:05:51,550 he kind of caught me, you know, like at a vulnerable time, 149 00:05:51,618 --> 00:05:54,386 I was just getting out of a really bad relationship, 150 00:05:54,455 --> 00:05:56,355 and there was something different about him. 151 00:05:56,423 --> 00:05:59,024 I felt like I can talk to him. 152 00:05:59,093 --> 00:06:01,927 He doesn't judge me on my past versus my last relationship. 153 00:06:01,995 --> 00:06:03,395 He encourages me. 154 00:06:03,464 --> 00:06:05,230 He even talks to me about my kids. 155 00:06:05,299 --> 00:06:06,898 He's like, "I'm ready to be a stepfather. 156 00:06:06,967 --> 00:06:08,867 I want to have children." 157 00:06:08,936 --> 00:06:10,469 He's just different. 158 00:06:10,537 --> 00:06:13,138 You know, versus other guys, they've just been so immature. 159 00:06:13,207 --> 00:06:15,874 - Do you guys say, "I love you"? 160 00:06:15,943 --> 00:06:17,909 - I mean, I feel like sometimes he wants to say it, 161 00:06:17,978 --> 00:06:22,214 but he hasn't said it, but he's calling me a lot. 162 00:06:22,282 --> 00:06:23,515 He's calling me every day. 163 00:06:23,584 --> 00:06:24,816 - So you guys talk on the phone a lot, 164 00:06:24,885 --> 00:06:26,351 and you text him, right? 165 00:06:26,420 --> 00:06:27,986 - He doesn't like to text. 166 00:06:28,055 --> 00:06:30,455 He likes to talk. He'll call me. 167 00:06:30,524 --> 00:06:33,859 - But has he ever texted you? - No. 168 00:06:33,927 --> 00:06:36,762 He likes to send me messages from Facebook, or he'll call. 169 00:06:36,830 --> 00:06:38,864 Those are his two, but mainly calling. 170 00:06:38,932 --> 00:06:40,432 He loves to just call. 171 00:06:40,501 --> 00:06:41,767 He's like, "I don't like to text." 172 00:06:41,835 --> 00:06:43,635 "That's a lot, you know. I have so much to say to you. 173 00:06:43,704 --> 00:06:44,970 I'd rather just say it than text." 174 00:06:45,038 --> 00:06:48,306 - Weird, that's like the reverse of everybody ever. 175 00:06:48,375 --> 00:06:50,675 - Right, all the catfish are always like, 176 00:06:50,744 --> 00:06:51,810 "No, I can't call." 177 00:06:51,879 --> 00:06:53,578 - Right. - "But like, I can text you." 178 00:06:53,647 --> 00:06:55,680 Do you feel like his voice on the phone 179 00:06:55,749 --> 00:06:58,417 matches the pictures that you're looking at? 180 00:06:58,485 --> 00:06:59,951 - Yeah, it sounds like it matches. 181 00:07:00,020 --> 00:07:02,320 He has like a nice, soft, kind of deep voice. 182 00:07:02,389 --> 00:07:03,622 - All right, well, 183 00:07:03,690 --> 00:07:05,190 I'love to see what this guy looks like. 184 00:07:05,259 --> 00:07:07,692 - Okay. - All right, here we go. 185 00:07:07,761 --> 00:07:11,062 Whoa, wow, okay. 186 00:07:11,131 --> 00:07:13,398 Definitely not wearing underwear. 187 00:07:13,467 --> 00:07:14,866 - He's definitely not wearing underwear there. 188 00:07:14,935 --> 00:07:17,402 So I said, "Well, are you doing nude modeling? 189 00:07:17,471 --> 00:07:19,104 I mean, if you are, you can let me know." 190 00:07:19,173 --> 00:07:21,606 And he's like, "No, you know, I don't hide anything from you. 191 00:07:21,675 --> 00:07:23,875 I'm not--if I was doing that, I would let you know." 192 00:07:23,944 --> 00:07:25,110 - I'm gonna be honest, 193 00:07:25,179 --> 00:07:27,279 he's giving me gay escort vibes. 194 00:07:27,347 --> 00:07:29,981 - [gasps] - [laughs] 195 00:07:30,050 --> 00:07:31,917 - Oh, my God. 196 00:07:31,985 --> 00:07:34,419 - But he is cute. 197 00:07:34,488 --> 00:07:36,721 - He's very handsome. - Let me ask you something. 198 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:38,690 You said you got out of a bad relationship 199 00:07:38,759 --> 00:07:40,992 and that shortly after, Ace showed up. 200 00:07:41,061 --> 00:07:42,461 - Mm-hmm. 201 00:07:42,529 --> 00:07:44,329 - Is there a chance that maybe Ace could be your ex? 202 00:07:44,398 --> 00:07:45,564 Have you ever considered 203 00:07:45,632 --> 00:07:47,599 that maybe it could be someone you know? 204 00:07:48,869 --> 00:07:50,402 - You've talked to Ace so many times on the phone, 205 00:07:50,471 --> 00:07:53,305 I feel like, that you should recognize the voice. 206 00:07:53,373 --> 00:07:55,106 - Exactly. - Yeah, yeah. 207 00:07:55,175 --> 00:07:57,175 And what's going on with this trip to Miami? 208 00:07:57,244 --> 00:07:58,777 - He wants me to come next month. 209 00:07:58,846 --> 00:08:00,078 He said he'll fly me out. 210 00:08:00,147 --> 00:08:01,913 He'll get a nice hotel room. 211 00:08:01,982 --> 00:08:03,381 And, yeah, I'm supposed to go. 212 00:08:03,450 --> 00:08:05,717 First, I have to see what's going on with this guy, 213 00:08:05,786 --> 00:08:08,053 but he's worth checking out for sure. 214 00:08:08,121 --> 00:08:10,822 - Obviously, you need to know more about this guy 215 00:08:10,891 --> 00:08:12,524 before you hop on a plane. 216 00:08:12,593 --> 00:08:13,925 - Definitely, yes. 217 00:08:13,994 --> 00:08:15,560 Just see, you know, what's going on. 218 00:08:15,629 --> 00:08:17,462 You know, I don't wanna be lied to. 219 00:08:17,531 --> 00:08:19,197 - All right, so send us his Facebook, 220 00:08:19,266 --> 00:08:21,933 send us the phone numbers, pictures that you have, 221 00:08:22,002 --> 00:08:24,302 and let us do an investigation and see what we find. 222 00:08:24,371 --> 00:08:26,104 - Thank you so much. 223 00:08:26,173 --> 00:08:28,507 - Of course. - Tracii, we got your back. 224 00:08:28,575 --> 00:08:30,942 - We will talk to you soon. - Bye. 225 00:08:31,011 --> 00:08:33,078 - You know it's not his pictures. 226 00:08:33,146 --> 00:08:34,579 It's not. 227 00:08:34,648 --> 00:08:37,415 That guy is not gonna have an issue with getting on FaceTime. 228 00:08:37,484 --> 00:08:40,318 - Right, the unfortunate reality is that Tracii doesn't 229 00:08:40,387 --> 00:08:43,588 feel like she can meet good guys in person. 230 00:08:43,657 --> 00:08:46,124 I'm just worried that if this doesn't work out for her, 231 00:08:46,193 --> 00:08:47,859 it's gonna mean she's gonna stop looking for guys 232 00:08:47,928 --> 00:08:50,529 altogether and basically just give up on dating. 233 00:08:50,597 --> 00:08:52,898 I'm nervous about what we're gonna find. 234 00:08:54,368 --> 00:08:57,435 - Okay, recap. 235 00:08:57,504 --> 00:09:02,474 - Okay, we've got Tracii, single mom living in LA. 236 00:09:02,543 --> 00:09:05,677 She's a model, meets Ace. He's very kind. 237 00:09:05,746 --> 00:09:08,413 And he seems like he is great, except for the fact 238 00:09:08,482 --> 00:09:10,482 that he changes his number all the time. 239 00:09:10,551 --> 00:09:13,418 And they've yet to FaceTime, but she's planning 240 00:09:13,487 --> 00:09:15,620 on meeting up with him in Miami next month. 241 00:09:15,689 --> 00:09:18,390 And why we're even being brought in is for her to decide 242 00:09:18,458 --> 00:09:21,259 whether or not she's actually gonna go forward with it. 243 00:09:21,328 --> 00:09:23,995 Good recap? 244 00:09:24,064 --> 00:09:28,166 - For sure. All right, let's dive in. 245 00:09:28,235 --> 00:09:31,770 Should have an email here from Tracii. 246 00:09:31,838 --> 00:09:33,805 There it is, oh. "Hey Nev and Kamie. 247 00:09:33,874 --> 00:09:35,140 "Thank you so much for your help. 248 00:09:35,208 --> 00:09:36,942 "Here's everything I know on Ace. 249 00:09:37,010 --> 00:09:39,344 "His full name is Ace Davis. 250 00:09:39,413 --> 00:09:41,947 "The pictures he sent me are attached. 251 00:09:42,015 --> 00:09:43,682 There are more pictures on his Facebook page." 252 00:09:43,750 --> 00:09:45,183 And she linked it. 253 00:09:45,252 --> 00:09:47,519 "And he lives in Miami, Atlanta, and Dallas. 254 00:09:47,588 --> 00:09:50,355 He's used a few numbers, a (424) number, 255 00:09:50,424 --> 00:09:53,325 a (323) number, (213) number. 256 00:09:53,393 --> 00:09:56,328 And so all the numbers he's had are California numbers. 257 00:09:56,396 --> 00:09:59,364 "He mentioned calling me today around 4:00, 258 00:09:59,433 --> 00:10:01,533 "so that's probably the next time we'll talk. 259 00:10:01,602 --> 00:10:03,101 "Let me know if you need anything else. 260 00:10:03,170 --> 00:10:04,202 "I'll be around today if you need me. 261 00:10:04,271 --> 00:10:05,437 Thank you." 262 00:10:05,505 --> 00:10:07,205 All right, so let's dive into this investigation. 263 00:10:07,274 --> 00:10:09,074 Let me save these pictures. Okay. 264 00:10:09,142 --> 00:10:10,976 Let's see what we can find. 265 00:10:11,044 --> 00:10:13,778 [tense music] 266 00:10:13,847 --> 00:10:15,080 Okay, so no hit there. 267 00:10:15,148 --> 00:10:17,148 How about the flexing one on the terrace 268 00:10:17,217 --> 00:10:20,585 by the ocean in the green briefs? 269 00:10:20,654 --> 00:10:24,089 All right, how about this one? No match. 270 00:10:24,157 --> 00:10:26,958 Is this even working? 271 00:10:27,027 --> 00:10:31,529 Oh, yeah! We got a hit. 272 00:10:31,598 --> 00:10:33,064 - Ooh! - We got a hit. 273 00:10:33,133 --> 00:10:35,233 - Ace! - Whoa! 274 00:10:35,302 --> 00:10:36,768 - No. - Wait a second. 275 00:10:36,837 --> 00:10:38,036 - Ace Rockwood. 276 00:10:38,105 --> 00:10:40,939 - What? Black guys on the [bleep]. 277 00:10:41,008 --> 00:10:43,308 - Does that mean, like, hard wieners? 278 00:10:43,377 --> 00:10:49,047 - Ahh! It does mean hard wieners. 279 00:10:49,116 --> 00:10:52,617 I put on my glasses at just the right moment. 280 00:10:52,686 --> 00:10:54,486 - Holy moly. 281 00:10:54,554 --> 00:10:56,421 So he's definitely a nude model. 282 00:10:56,490 --> 00:10:58,923 - But he told Tracii-- - He wasn't. 283 00:10:58,992 --> 00:10:59,991 - That he wasn't. 284 00:11:00,060 --> 00:11:01,493 - But more importantly, 285 00:11:01,561 --> 00:11:04,629 it looks like this guy's name is actually Ace. 286 00:11:04,698 --> 00:11:06,865 Or his professional name is Ace Rockwood, sorry. 287 00:11:06,933 --> 00:11:08,700 - His stage name. - Right, right. 288 00:11:08,769 --> 00:11:10,402 - Oh, Rockwood. 289 00:11:10,470 --> 00:11:14,072 - Oh. - Oh. 290 00:11:14,141 --> 00:11:15,974 - Of course. 291 00:11:16,043 --> 00:11:17,942 - It's all making sense now. - All right. 292 00:11:18,011 --> 00:11:20,545 Well, so this one comes up on a bunch of different sites. 293 00:11:20,614 --> 00:11:23,948 - Gay porn [bleep]. - Oh, yeah. 294 00:11:24,017 --> 00:11:25,450 - Rockwood, gay model. 295 00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:28,086 - Hold on. There's a Twitter. 296 00:11:28,155 --> 00:11:32,057 - This is all, it's gay porn. This is a lot. 297 00:11:32,125 --> 00:11:33,925 It's a lot of-- - This is a lot for me. 298 00:11:33,994 --> 00:11:36,394 - [laughs] 299 00:11:36,463 --> 00:11:39,064 There's a lot going on. - There's a video. 300 00:11:39,132 --> 00:11:42,167 - Buenos días, amigos. Good morning, y'all. 301 00:11:42,235 --> 00:11:43,501 - Well, this is good 'cause his voice is in it. 302 00:11:43,570 --> 00:11:44,736 - Right. 303 00:11:44,805 --> 00:11:46,438 - So on the off chance it could still be him. 304 00:11:46,506 --> 00:11:48,973 Maybe his secret is that he's a gay porn star. 305 00:11:49,042 --> 00:11:50,275 - Yeah, yeah. 306 00:11:50,343 --> 00:11:52,210 There's a possibility that this Ace 307 00:11:52,279 --> 00:11:53,712 is who Tracii's talking to, so-- 308 00:11:53,780 --> 00:11:55,714 - Right, because he did say his name was Ace. 309 00:11:55,782 --> 00:11:57,148 - Right. 310 00:11:57,217 --> 00:12:00,852 - Maybe he was like gay for pay and did porn, 311 00:12:00,921 --> 00:12:02,253 gay porn, at one point, 312 00:12:02,322 --> 00:12:04,289 but he's interested in women only, and like-- 313 00:12:04,357 --> 00:12:05,890 - Or maybe interested in both. 314 00:12:05,959 --> 00:12:08,660 - Maybe interested in both and never brought it up to Tracii. 315 00:12:08,729 --> 00:12:10,628 - It could be that they're the same person, 316 00:12:10,697 --> 00:12:12,997 and he just gave her a different last name. 317 00:12:13,066 --> 00:12:14,766 And she's actually talking to Ace Rockwood. 318 00:12:14,835 --> 00:12:16,901 - Well, should we try to find--I feel like we need 319 00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:19,704 to do better research to find who the real Ace Rockwood is. 320 00:12:19,773 --> 00:12:23,675 - Let's go to Instagram. I wonder if Ace has a page. 321 00:12:23,744 --> 00:12:25,376 Oh, yeah. Oh, [bleep]. 322 00:12:25,445 --> 00:12:27,345 - OfficialAceRockwood. 323 00:12:27,414 --> 00:12:28,713 Here he's with a girl. 324 00:12:28,782 --> 00:12:31,249 "If you love what we do, then it'll be very easy 325 00:12:31,318 --> 00:12:33,384 for you to love the latest update, too." 326 00:12:33,453 --> 00:12:36,554 So it looks like he does different types of porn. 327 00:12:36,623 --> 00:12:38,490 - The Ace that Tracii's talking to told her 328 00:12:38,558 --> 00:12:40,458 that he doesn't have other social media. 329 00:12:40,527 --> 00:12:41,793 - Right, although, 330 00:12:41,862 --> 00:12:43,328 maybe he told her that because he doesn't want her 331 00:12:43,396 --> 00:12:44,863 to find out that he's a porn star. 332 00:12:44,931 --> 00:12:46,097 - We don't know. 333 00:12:46,166 --> 00:12:47,766 - But we could reach out to him. 334 00:12:47,834 --> 00:12:51,936 Let me find his--all right. Let's send him a message. 335 00:12:52,005 --> 00:12:53,304 "This is Nev from "Catfish," 336 00:12:53,373 --> 00:12:54,873 "and we're hoping you could chat with us quickly 337 00:12:54,941 --> 00:12:56,174 "about an episode we're filming right now. 338 00:12:56,243 --> 00:12:57,842 Let me know." 339 00:12:57,911 --> 00:13:00,478 Okay, all right, so that now leaves us... 340 00:13:00,547 --> 00:13:02,347 We've got three phone numbers to try. 341 00:13:02,415 --> 00:13:06,017 Searching of the phone number. 342 00:13:06,086 --> 00:13:07,418 - Oh, Sprint. 343 00:13:07,487 --> 00:13:09,621 - Oh, it was a Sprint number. 344 00:13:09,689 --> 00:13:12,624 All right, let's run a different number. 345 00:13:12,692 --> 00:13:13,892 - T-Mobile. 346 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,093 - Another actual cell phone. 347 00:13:15,162 --> 00:13:16,694 - We have a third number. 348 00:13:16,763 --> 00:13:19,364 - Yeah, this is his newest number. 349 00:13:19,432 --> 00:13:21,533 - Pacific Payphone? - What? 350 00:13:21,601 --> 00:13:22,901 - That's the potential owner. 351 00:13:22,969 --> 00:13:24,903 - Well, that's a first. 352 00:13:24,971 --> 00:13:26,704 - But location is Los Angeles. 353 00:13:26,773 --> 00:13:28,373 - And then the a map. 354 00:13:28,441 --> 00:13:30,775 - MacArthur Park. - Yeah, that's Downtown LA. 355 00:13:30,844 --> 00:13:33,545 We're actually not that far from there. 356 00:13:33,613 --> 00:13:38,016 7th and Coronado. 7th, here it is, Coronado. 357 00:13:38,084 --> 00:13:41,519 What is this right here? [bleep]. 358 00:13:41,588 --> 00:13:43,354 - There's a payphone. Isn't that a payphone? 359 00:13:43,423 --> 00:13:46,658 - Yeah, but she calls him on that number, doesn't she? 360 00:13:46,726 --> 00:13:49,761 - No, they talk on Messenger. He says, "I'm gonna call you." 361 00:13:49,830 --> 00:13:52,063 - Right, she said, "He mentioned calling me 362 00:13:52,132 --> 00:13:54,465 today around 4:00." 363 00:13:54,534 --> 00:13:56,668 And this is his current phone number. 364 00:13:56,736 --> 00:13:58,503 ♪ ♪ 365 00:13:58,572 --> 00:14:00,872 - Do you wanna go and, like, stakeout the payphone? 366 00:14:00,941 --> 00:14:02,540 - Yeah! 367 00:14:02,609 --> 00:14:06,411 I mean, what an incredibly rare opportunity we have. 368 00:14:06,479 --> 00:14:10,081 It comes up as that payphone. 369 00:14:10,150 --> 00:14:11,916 It's in Downtown LA. 370 00:14:11,985 --> 00:14:15,420 And if they're supposed to talk today in an hour, 371 00:14:15,488 --> 00:14:19,157 we could just go and see if anyone comes to the phone. 372 00:14:19,226 --> 00:14:20,959 - You've got that crazy look in your eye. 373 00:14:21,027 --> 00:14:22,594 - This is crazy. 374 00:14:22,662 --> 00:14:25,163 This is exciting. We're gonna catch this guy. 375 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,566 - Here we go. - All right. 376 00:14:28,635 --> 00:14:30,201 - I feel like a vlogger. 377 00:14:30,270 --> 00:14:32,003 [upbeat music] 378 00:14:32,072 --> 00:14:33,705 - All right. This is a big deal. 379 00:14:33,773 --> 00:14:36,307 We're heading to the specific payphone 380 00:14:36,376 --> 00:14:40,245 that might be where our catfish is calling from. 381 00:14:40,313 --> 00:14:42,013 - Stakeout time. 382 00:14:42,082 --> 00:14:45,617 - Which seems insane that a catfish would use a payphone, 383 00:14:45,685 --> 00:14:47,485 but maybe he's really trying to stay, 384 00:14:47,554 --> 00:14:48,820 you know, kind of incognito. 385 00:14:48,889 --> 00:14:50,221 I don't know. It's pretty wild. 386 00:14:50,290 --> 00:14:54,058 - ♪ Easy come and easy go, I want it all ♪ 387 00:14:54,127 --> 00:14:55,894 - ♪ I want it, I want it ♪ - ♪ Oh, I want it all ♪ 388 00:14:55,962 --> 00:14:57,195 - It's just wild to me. 389 00:14:57,264 --> 00:15:00,298 I mean, you have to fall on really hard times 390 00:15:00,367 --> 00:15:03,034 to not have access to any kind of means 391 00:15:03,103 --> 00:15:05,169 of calling someone other than a payphone. 392 00:15:05,238 --> 00:15:08,039 - Right, or unless, like, you're really trying 393 00:15:08,108 --> 00:15:11,242 to keep your location and your identity secret. 394 00:15:11,311 --> 00:15:14,212 - I mean, that is--that's like spy [bleep]. 395 00:15:14,281 --> 00:15:17,582 And then they've been talking almost every night. 396 00:15:17,651 --> 00:15:20,118 for hours sometimes. 397 00:15:20,186 --> 00:15:22,353 - That's a long ass time to be standing outside. 398 00:15:22,422 --> 00:15:25,690 But if he's in LA, what was his plan for this Miami trip? 399 00:15:25,759 --> 00:15:27,225 Like, was he just gonna ghost again 400 00:15:27,294 --> 00:15:29,160 and, like, do some weird [bleep]? 401 00:15:29,229 --> 00:15:30,428 - Right. 402 00:15:30,497 --> 00:15:33,998 - I wanna bust him, soon as he picks up the phone. 403 00:15:34,067 --> 00:15:37,368 - Text Tracii and--just so she has a heads up. 404 00:15:37,437 --> 00:15:38,770 - "Hey, Tracii. 405 00:15:38,838 --> 00:15:42,340 Text us as soon as Ace calls you." 406 00:15:42,409 --> 00:15:44,609 ♪ ♪ 407 00:15:44,678 --> 00:15:46,277 She said, "Hey! Okay, I will." 408 00:15:46,346 --> 00:15:49,614 - ♪ Make my head spin 'round, make my head spin ♪ 409 00:15:49,683 --> 00:15:51,950 ♪ Turn me upside down ♪ 410 00:15:52,018 --> 00:15:54,619 - All right, we're very close. There it is. 411 00:15:54,688 --> 00:15:57,455 Okay, all right. So I'm gonna turn here. 412 00:15:57,524 --> 00:16:00,525 - ♪ Oh, I want it all ♪ 413 00:16:00,593 --> 00:16:02,193 It's exactly 4:02. 414 00:16:02,262 --> 00:16:04,996 I don't see anyone on the phone. 415 00:16:05,065 --> 00:16:07,598 All right, well, we're kind of just far enough away from it 416 00:16:07,667 --> 00:16:10,768 that no one would look over here and suspect that we were-- 417 00:16:10,837 --> 00:16:12,236 - No, we look very inconspicuous. 418 00:16:12,305 --> 00:16:14,706 - Yeah. - I got the binoculars. 419 00:16:14,774 --> 00:16:17,842 - Where did you get those? 420 00:16:17,911 --> 00:16:21,512 - Ready for the stakeout. Wrong way. 421 00:16:21,581 --> 00:16:23,214 - All right. 422 00:16:23,283 --> 00:16:26,951 So this is the liquor store, and that is the payphone 423 00:16:27,020 --> 00:16:28,553 right there that we were looking at. 424 00:16:28,621 --> 00:16:34,025 So if anyone comes from there or there, we will see them. 425 00:16:34,094 --> 00:16:35,893 There is a guy walking down the street. 426 00:16:35,962 --> 00:16:39,497 [tense music] 427 00:16:39,566 --> 00:16:41,265 - Do we look suspicious? 428 00:16:41,334 --> 00:16:43,534 - [indistinct] 429 00:16:43,603 --> 00:16:45,003 There he is. There he is. 430 00:16:45,071 --> 00:16:46,571 - He's looking to the left and right. 431 00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:49,507 Put it down. You look like a narc. 432 00:16:49,576 --> 00:16:51,843 - So there's this guy. 433 00:16:51,911 --> 00:16:57,315 ♪ ♪ 434 00:16:57,384 --> 00:17:00,051 - Nobody using that dusty ass payphone. 435 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,520 - And that guy standing there, is he getting on the phone? 436 00:17:02,589 --> 00:17:07,592 ♪ ♪ 437 00:17:07,660 --> 00:17:11,162 It's 4:12. Where is this guy? 438 00:17:11,231 --> 00:17:13,965 - One thing about Ace, he's not punctual. 439 00:17:14,034 --> 00:17:15,066 - He's not here yet. 440 00:17:15,135 --> 00:17:16,634 I'm starting to get discouraged, 441 00:17:16,703 --> 00:17:18,636 but she also hasn't texted us that they're on the phone yet. 442 00:17:18,705 --> 00:17:19,804 So-- - Right. 443 00:17:19,873 --> 00:17:21,572 - There is still a chance. 444 00:17:21,641 --> 00:17:22,874 - He said around 4:00. 445 00:17:22,942 --> 00:17:24,442 - Right. - He didn't say at 4:00. 446 00:17:24,511 --> 00:17:26,778 - Right. 447 00:17:26,846 --> 00:17:29,447 Watch this guy. He's walking over there? 448 00:17:29,516 --> 00:17:31,682 ♪ ♪ 449 00:17:31,751 --> 00:17:34,585 He is walking over to the phone. 450 00:17:34,654 --> 00:17:37,288 This could be our guy. 451 00:17:37,357 --> 00:17:38,956 Right to the payphone. 452 00:17:39,025 --> 00:17:40,958 Is he gonna stop? He's gonna stop. 453 00:17:41,027 --> 00:17:44,529 He's gonna stop. He's gonna stop. 454 00:17:44,597 --> 00:17:47,198 No. [phone dings] 455 00:17:47,267 --> 00:17:48,866 - [gasps] - Oh, is that her? 456 00:17:48,935 --> 00:17:51,602 - He's on the phone now. - [Bleep]. 457 00:17:51,671 --> 00:17:53,604 He must be using a different payphone. 458 00:17:53,673 --> 00:17:55,006 All right. 459 00:17:55,075 --> 00:17:56,474 - Is he on another payphone? 460 00:17:56,543 --> 00:17:58,409 Let's just cruise around the block a couple times 461 00:17:58,478 --> 00:18:00,078 and see if we see someone on a payphone. 462 00:18:00,146 --> 00:18:01,479 - Damn. 463 00:18:01,548 --> 00:18:04,415 ♪ ♪ 464 00:18:04,484 --> 00:18:06,217 I mean, truthfully, 465 00:18:06,286 --> 00:18:10,822 to see anyone on a payphone in 2021 will be a rare sight. 466 00:18:10,890 --> 00:18:16,127 ♪ ♪ 467 00:18:16,196 --> 00:18:18,596 - No, that's the closest payphone. 468 00:18:18,665 --> 00:18:20,198 - That's the payphone. 469 00:18:20,266 --> 00:18:23,534 - Man, I really thought we'd caught this catfish, 470 00:18:23,603 --> 00:18:27,839 and now I just feel like we're back to square one. 471 00:18:27,907 --> 00:18:29,474 One way or another, 472 00:18:29,542 --> 00:18:31,209 we are gonna catch this person. 473 00:18:32,979 --> 00:18:35,079 - Yesterday was both thrilling and disappointing. 474 00:18:35,148 --> 00:18:36,447 - Yeah. 475 00:18:36,516 --> 00:18:37,748 - I really thought we were gonna catch him 476 00:18:37,817 --> 00:18:40,885 like, picking up the phone, dialing that number. 477 00:18:40,954 --> 00:18:42,286 Nothing. 478 00:18:42,355 --> 00:18:46,791 - I mean, I'm just so curious how that number and the fact 479 00:18:46,860 --> 00:18:49,494 that it comes up as a payphone at that location 480 00:18:49,562 --> 00:18:51,696 is related in any way, 481 00:18:51,764 --> 00:18:55,500 or if it's just completely random, strange nonsense. 482 00:18:55,568 --> 00:18:57,368 ♪ ♪ 483 00:18:57,437 --> 00:19:00,338 - I don't know, but I do know Tracii 484 00:19:00,406 --> 00:19:03,341 is not going to be very happy when she finds out-- 485 00:19:03,409 --> 00:19:04,742 - About Ace Rockwood. 486 00:19:04,811 --> 00:19:07,111 - About Ace Rockwood. Did he message us back? 487 00:19:07,180 --> 00:19:13,217 - I don't think so. So it says sent but not seen. 488 00:19:13,286 --> 00:19:15,887 - Ready to break the news? 489 00:19:15,955 --> 00:19:18,322 - You ready? You ready? 490 00:19:18,391 --> 00:19:21,159 - You mean, am I ready to sleep on the couches behind you guys? 491 00:19:21,227 --> 00:19:23,094 Absolutely. 492 00:19:23,163 --> 00:19:25,763 - All right. Let's text our girl to join us. 493 00:19:25,832 --> 00:19:28,599 We can show Tracii everything that we found. 494 00:19:28,668 --> 00:19:30,034 - She's going to be... 495 00:19:30,103 --> 00:19:32,570 [upbeat music] 496 00:19:32,639 --> 00:19:34,372 Hey, Tracii. 497 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,073 - Hi. - Hello. 498 00:19:36,142 --> 00:19:38,242 - I like this marigold. 499 00:19:38,311 --> 00:19:41,078 - Oh, thank you. 500 00:19:41,147 --> 00:19:42,813 - How are you? 501 00:19:42,882 --> 00:19:45,950 - Oh, I'm just, like, anxious. I've been anxious all morning. 502 00:19:46,019 --> 00:19:48,186 I couldn't get any sleep. [sighs] 503 00:19:48,254 --> 00:19:49,887 - All right. Well, look did some research. 504 00:19:49,956 --> 00:19:51,989 We actually had a pretty wild day yesterday. 505 00:19:52,058 --> 00:19:53,357 - Okay. 506 00:19:53,426 --> 00:19:55,026 - We definitely have some things we need to talk about. 507 00:19:55,094 --> 00:19:57,562 - Okay. - So I'm gonna share my screen. 508 00:19:57,630 --> 00:19:59,297 All right. 509 00:19:59,365 --> 00:20:01,866 So when we searched all of the photos you had sent us... 510 00:20:01,935 --> 00:20:03,067 - Mm-hmm. 511 00:20:03,136 --> 00:20:05,236 - We did get a hit on one of them. 512 00:20:05,305 --> 00:20:06,837 - Okay. 513 00:20:06,906 --> 00:20:10,007 - This picture came back actually with a bunch of hits. 514 00:20:10,076 --> 00:20:11,342 - [gasps] 515 00:20:11,411 --> 00:20:13,477 - And one of them is this website. 516 00:20:13,546 --> 00:20:18,482 - [gasps] Oh, my God. 517 00:20:18,551 --> 00:20:20,251 - That's what I said. 518 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,420 - Wait a minute. [gasps] 519 00:20:22,488 --> 00:20:25,690 Oh, my God! 520 00:20:25,758 --> 00:20:29,727 - We then also noticed the name for the person in these photos 521 00:20:29,796 --> 00:20:31,596 seems to be Ace Rockwood. 522 00:20:31,664 --> 00:20:33,931 - No wonder I couldn't find him on Instagram 523 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,666 'cause it's a different last name. 524 00:20:35,735 --> 00:20:36,867 - So after we saw that, we're like, 525 00:20:36,936 --> 00:20:38,302 "Okay, well, let's look up Ace Rockwood." 526 00:20:38,371 --> 00:20:40,071 - Oh, my God. - So we did. 527 00:20:40,139 --> 00:20:45,676 And we found a video here where he's acting in gay porn. 528 00:20:45,745 --> 00:20:48,312 - [gasps] No! 529 00:20:48,381 --> 00:20:49,747 - But I want you to hear his voice 530 00:20:49,816 --> 00:20:52,283 because it would be good to know if it matches. 531 00:20:52,352 --> 00:20:53,751 - Oh, my God. 532 00:20:53,820 --> 00:20:56,787 - Buenos días, amigos. Good morning, y'all. 533 00:20:56,856 --> 00:20:59,457 - Does that voice sound familiar? 534 00:20:59,525 --> 00:21:02,126 - Yeah, it sounds like his voice. 535 00:21:02,195 --> 00:21:04,061 - Really? - Yeah. 536 00:21:04,130 --> 00:21:06,864 - Interesting, so basically, we found the pictures, 537 00:21:06,933 --> 00:21:09,700 we found the Ace Rockwood, and we messaged Ace 538 00:21:09,769 --> 00:21:11,068 off of his Instagram page, 539 00:21:11,137 --> 00:21:14,071 and we're waiting in the hopes that he gets back to us. 540 00:21:14,140 --> 00:21:18,676 If it is him, if you are talking to Ace Rockwood, 541 00:21:18,745 --> 00:21:21,312 and he somehow felt he should omit 542 00:21:21,381 --> 00:21:23,514 much of the details of his professional career 543 00:21:23,583 --> 00:21:26,751 and personal sort of sex life, 544 00:21:26,819 --> 00:21:28,452 how would you feel about that? 545 00:21:28,521 --> 00:21:32,556 - I would definitely not want to talk to him anymore. 546 00:21:32,625 --> 00:21:34,458 I have no problem with that. 547 00:21:34,527 --> 00:21:35,726 You know, it's not that. 548 00:21:35,795 --> 00:21:37,395 It's just that, 549 00:21:37,463 --> 00:21:39,797 I've been talking to this man all this time, 550 00:21:39,866 --> 00:21:41,499 and he's never even mentioned--I've never 551 00:21:41,567 --> 00:21:43,334 seen anything like that. 552 00:21:43,403 --> 00:21:47,438 So it's like, what are you... 553 00:21:47,507 --> 00:21:49,073 - This guy's hiding something. 554 00:21:49,142 --> 00:21:51,309 That brings us to the phone numbers. 555 00:21:51,377 --> 00:21:53,711 They came up as cell phones, like, actual cell phones. 556 00:21:53,780 --> 00:21:54,879 - Mm-hmm. 557 00:21:54,947 --> 00:21:56,447 - But what we immediately recognized 558 00:21:56,516 --> 00:21:58,849 was that they're also Los Angeles phone numbers. 559 00:21:58,918 --> 00:22:00,418 - Did you not ask him 560 00:22:00,486 --> 00:22:03,120 why all of his numbers were LA phone numbers? 561 00:22:03,189 --> 00:22:04,622 - I asked him that, and he's just like, 562 00:22:04,691 --> 00:22:09,393 "Well, you know, eventually I do wanna come out there." 563 00:22:09,462 --> 00:22:10,428 - Right. 564 00:22:10,496 --> 00:22:11,629 - And he said that he has a lot 565 00:22:11,698 --> 00:22:13,898 of friends and contacts in California. 566 00:22:13,966 --> 00:22:16,300 So that was always it. 567 00:22:16,369 --> 00:22:17,868 - Well, check this out. 568 00:22:17,937 --> 00:22:19,904 The third number, which is his most recent number, 569 00:22:19,972 --> 00:22:22,540 weirdly came back to a Pacific Payphone. 570 00:22:22,608 --> 00:22:24,108 - What? 571 00:22:24,177 --> 00:22:26,677 - Which is not something we've ever seen before. 572 00:22:26,746 --> 00:22:30,514 - Yeah. - But it shows a location. 573 00:22:30,583 --> 00:22:32,116 - Oh. 574 00:22:32,185 --> 00:22:35,553 - And the location happens to be, like, Downtown LA. 575 00:22:35,621 --> 00:22:37,088 - You told us that Ace 576 00:22:37,156 --> 00:22:38,622 was gonna be calling you around 4:00. 577 00:22:38,691 --> 00:22:40,224 - Yeah. 578 00:22:40,293 --> 00:22:41,625 - It was around 3:00 when we searched the number 579 00:22:41,694 --> 00:22:42,927 and found this payphone. 580 00:22:42,995 --> 00:22:44,328 It isn't far from our office. 581 00:22:44,397 --> 00:22:46,697 So we got in the car. We head Downtown, 582 00:22:46,766 --> 00:22:50,067 We went to this payphone to do a little stakeout. 583 00:22:50,136 --> 00:22:51,635 - And is that when I text you guys 584 00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:53,204 and said he was on the line? 585 00:22:53,272 --> 00:22:54,939 - Right, 'cause we thought maybe some guy 586 00:22:55,007 --> 00:22:56,540 is gonna walk up to that phone. 587 00:22:56,609 --> 00:22:57,808 - Yeah. 588 00:22:57,877 --> 00:22:59,543 - And you're gonna text us and say, 589 00:22:59,612 --> 00:23:01,779 "He's talking to me now," and we're gonna know who it is. 590 00:23:01,848 --> 00:23:03,614 - Yeah. - But no one ever came. 591 00:23:03,683 --> 00:23:05,616 You got on the phone with Ace. 592 00:23:05,685 --> 00:23:08,619 We were sitting there, and there was no one on that phone. 593 00:23:08,688 --> 00:23:10,721 - Oh, wow, oh. 594 00:23:10,790 --> 00:23:12,156 - What number did he call you from? 595 00:23:12,225 --> 00:23:14,058 - He called me from a private number. 596 00:23:14,127 --> 00:23:16,327 So I don't know, maybe he's using... 597 00:23:16,396 --> 00:23:17,561 [phone dings] 598 00:23:17,630 --> 00:23:20,231 - Who's that? - Ace. 599 00:23:20,299 --> 00:23:22,666 Ace is just writing me back on Instagram. 600 00:23:22,735 --> 00:23:24,135 - Oh, my God. What did he say? 601 00:23:24,203 --> 00:23:25,669 - He said, "Hey, yes, I'm available. 602 00:23:25,738 --> 00:23:27,204 What do you need?" 603 00:23:27,273 --> 00:23:29,273 - Oh, my God. Oh, my God. 604 00:23:29,342 --> 00:23:34,044 - "Would love to get you on a Zoom." 605 00:23:34,113 --> 00:23:36,680 - I mean, could it have been Ace this whole time? 606 00:23:36,749 --> 00:23:38,883 - Oh, [bleep], I'm nervous. 607 00:23:38,951 --> 00:23:40,985 [tense music] 608 00:23:41,053 --> 00:23:42,653 - Oh, he hearted it. Great. 609 00:23:42,722 --> 00:23:43,888 All right. I'm sending him the link. 610 00:23:43,956 --> 00:23:46,624 - Oh, my God. 611 00:23:46,692 --> 00:23:48,626 [computer chimes] - Oh, wait a second. 612 00:23:48,694 --> 00:23:50,060 Hey, all right. What's up man? 613 00:23:50,129 --> 00:23:51,729 - Hey. - Hey, hey, hey, how you doing? 614 00:23:51,798 --> 00:23:53,230 - We're good, we're good. - Hi. 615 00:23:53,299 --> 00:23:55,065 - Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you. 616 00:23:55,134 --> 00:23:57,802 - Well, so Tracii's been talking to someone 617 00:23:57,870 --> 00:24:00,738 for a little over a year now. 618 00:24:00,807 --> 00:24:02,973 - Okay. - Whose name is Ace. 619 00:24:03,042 --> 00:24:06,577 Who looks exactly like you. So I have to ask. 620 00:24:06,646 --> 00:24:09,914 Are you in an online relationship with Tracii? 621 00:24:09,982 --> 00:24:14,685 - No, oh, oh, no. I'm sorry, Tracii. 622 00:24:14,754 --> 00:24:17,054 - Okay. - I'm sorry. 623 00:24:17,123 --> 00:24:18,422 - I'm sure this is probably 624 00:24:18,491 --> 00:24:19,957 not the first time you've heard of someone 625 00:24:20,026 --> 00:24:21,592 making a fake profile of you. 626 00:24:21,661 --> 00:24:24,028 - No, I have fake pages of me on Facebook, 627 00:24:24,096 --> 00:24:25,629 and I've never had a Facebook. 628 00:24:25,698 --> 00:24:28,098 - Oh, wow. 629 00:24:28,167 --> 00:24:31,368 - Okay, all right, well, this was the answer we needed. 630 00:24:31,437 --> 00:24:34,672 You are just you and also for you to clear your name 631 00:24:34,740 --> 00:24:36,707 and make sure people know 632 00:24:36,776 --> 00:24:38,509 A, you don't have a Facebook page. 633 00:24:38,578 --> 00:24:40,277 - Never had one. 634 00:24:40,346 --> 00:24:43,247 - So if you're talking to Ace Rockwood on Facebook... 635 00:24:43,316 --> 00:24:44,949 - You're not. - You're not. 636 00:24:45,017 --> 00:24:46,650 - Oh, my God. 637 00:24:46,719 --> 00:24:49,119 - I'm sorry, Tracii, that you went through that. 638 00:24:49,188 --> 00:24:52,223 That's so sad, but at least now you get the real thing. 639 00:24:52,291 --> 00:24:54,058 - Thank you. I really appreciate that. 640 00:24:54,126 --> 00:24:55,993 You're very handsome. 641 00:24:56,062 --> 00:24:57,795 - Do you date women? - Yeah, yeah. 642 00:24:57,864 --> 00:25:00,097 I've had a relationship with a woman before, more than one. 643 00:25:00,166 --> 00:25:01,899 - Do you live in Florida? 644 00:25:01,968 --> 00:25:03,834 - Yeah, yeah, I live in Florida. 645 00:25:03,903 --> 00:25:06,904 - I just wanna know, okay, if it's not you, then who is it? 646 00:25:06,973 --> 00:25:09,273 And why? Why did they pick me? 647 00:25:09,342 --> 00:25:12,510 You know, out of--this is crazy. 648 00:25:12,578 --> 00:25:15,913 We gotta find out who this guy is, or girl, or, oh, God. 649 00:25:15,982 --> 00:25:17,681 - Whoever it is. - All right. 650 00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:19,116 - Thanks, Ace. - Thank you, bye. 651 00:25:19,185 --> 00:25:20,951 Nice meeting you. - Good luck. 652 00:25:21,020 --> 00:25:23,521 - [sighs] Oh, my God. 653 00:25:23,589 --> 00:25:24,955 - All right, so look, 654 00:25:25,024 --> 00:25:26,757 we got some answers now at least. 655 00:25:26,826 --> 00:25:28,826 It's not Ace Rockwood. 656 00:25:28,895 --> 00:25:32,563 - I'm trying not to get mad, but it's just like, "Come on." 657 00:25:32,632 --> 00:25:36,367 Like, who is this person? They're, like, wasting my time. 658 00:25:36,435 --> 00:25:38,202 Like, why? 659 00:25:38,271 --> 00:25:41,238 - ♪ Holding on so tight 'cause I'm afraid you might ♪ 660 00:25:41,307 --> 00:25:44,108 ♪ Might slip away ♪ 661 00:25:44,176 --> 00:25:46,110 - There is nothing wrong with being mad 662 00:25:46,178 --> 00:25:48,913 about your time being wasted for over a year 663 00:25:48,981 --> 00:25:52,349 by a person who has lied to you about seemingly everything. 664 00:25:52,418 --> 00:25:55,719 - Oh, my God. 665 00:25:55,788 --> 00:25:57,888 Yeah, it's very disappointing. 666 00:25:57,957 --> 00:26:00,024 Disappointing, like, come on. 667 00:26:00,092 --> 00:26:02,359 This is embarrassing, too. You know what I mean? 668 00:26:02,428 --> 00:26:05,663 Like, I don't understand why someone would wanna do this. 669 00:26:05,731 --> 00:26:12,036 - ♪ Can't get this moment frozen ♪ 670 00:26:12,104 --> 00:26:13,671 ♪ ♪ 671 00:26:13,739 --> 00:26:17,041 - I'm sorry. I didn't want to cry on camera. 672 00:26:17,109 --> 00:26:19,209 ♪ ♪ 673 00:26:19,278 --> 00:26:23,881 - ♪ So why don't we move in slow motion ♪ 674 00:26:23,950 --> 00:26:25,182 - Okay. 675 00:26:27,286 --> 00:26:31,188 - This [bleep]ing sucks. 676 00:26:31,257 --> 00:26:34,858 - Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 677 00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:37,761 I didn't want to cry on camera. I look more stupid. 678 00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:39,630 - No, it--there's nothing stupid 679 00:26:39,699 --> 00:26:42,733 about putting yourself out there to meet someone. 680 00:26:42,802 --> 00:26:45,703 What's stupid is somebody [bleep]ing conning you 681 00:26:46,772 --> 00:26:47,938 that there's somebody anthat they're not.k 682 00:26:48,007 --> 00:26:49,306 - Yeah. 683 00:26:49,375 --> 00:26:50,708 - It's okay for you to be sad, 684 00:26:50,776 --> 00:26:53,110 and it's okay for you to be angry, 685 00:26:53,179 --> 00:26:55,446 but don't direct it towards yourself 686 00:26:55,514 --> 00:26:57,181 as something you did wrong. 687 00:26:57,249 --> 00:26:59,650 We're gonna put that energy where it belongs 688 00:26:59,719 --> 00:27:02,086 in the hands of Ace, whoever the [bleep] this is. 689 00:27:02,154 --> 00:27:03,754 - [laughs] 690 00:27:03,823 --> 00:27:06,590 - Now having discovered that he's been misleading you, 691 00:27:06,659 --> 00:27:08,659 is there a reason to continue forward 692 00:27:08,728 --> 00:27:12,930 and find out who this guy you've been talking to is? 693 00:27:12,999 --> 00:27:16,533 - I would like to find out, you know, who's doing it. 694 00:27:16,602 --> 00:27:18,135 I was getting out of a bad relationship. 695 00:27:18,204 --> 00:27:19,436 Whoever this person is came in, 696 00:27:19,505 --> 00:27:20,738 and they helped me get out of that. 697 00:27:20,806 --> 00:27:22,139 'Cause I really had a hard time. 698 00:27:22,208 --> 00:27:23,574 I was really depressed. 699 00:27:23,643 --> 00:27:25,142 You know, and now I'm just, like, nervous. 700 00:27:25,211 --> 00:27:26,510 I'm like, who could this be? 701 00:27:26,579 --> 00:27:28,812 This takes a lot. Why would they do all of this? 702 00:27:28,881 --> 00:27:31,915 - Just feels a little, like, intentional. 703 00:27:31,984 --> 00:27:33,384 - That's what makes it scary. 704 00:27:33,452 --> 00:27:36,086 - So I say we reel this catfish in, 705 00:27:36,155 --> 00:27:37,755 and let them explain themselves. 706 00:27:37,823 --> 00:27:39,023 Give them an opportunity 707 00:27:39,091 --> 00:27:42,059 to finally come out from behind the mask. 708 00:27:42,128 --> 00:27:43,661 [tense music] 709 00:27:43,729 --> 00:27:45,262 - Oh, God. 710 00:27:45,331 --> 00:27:47,765 - So I can message him or try calling him, 711 00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:49,199 but it's a payphone. 712 00:27:49,268 --> 00:27:50,768 All right. Well, I'm gonna call him. 713 00:27:50,836 --> 00:27:52,636 Let me make sure I have the right number. 714 00:27:52,705 --> 00:27:54,505 All right. Let's see what happens. 715 00:27:54,573 --> 00:27:56,774 - Goodness. - Oh, boy. 716 00:27:56,842 --> 00:27:57,908 [line trilling] 717 00:27:58,511 --> 00:28:00,244 [piercing beep] 718 00:28:00,312 --> 00:28:02,012 - A fax machine? 719 00:28:02,081 --> 00:28:03,547 - It's a payphone! 720 00:28:03,616 --> 00:28:05,349 - Why can't you call a payphone? 721 00:28:05,418 --> 00:28:07,851 I mean, maybe you have to pick it up right away. 722 00:28:08,954 --> 00:28:10,621 Maybe you can't call Ipayphones anymore,w. 723 00:28:10,690 --> 00:28:12,823 but I'm basing my knowledge on payphones from "Die Hard." 724 00:28:12,892 --> 00:28:15,192 - Right, 'cause in the movies, you're walking by, 725 00:28:15,261 --> 00:28:16,794 it rings, you say, "Hello?" 726 00:28:16,862 --> 00:28:18,095 It be like, "You got five minutes." 727 00:28:18,164 --> 00:28:19,196 - Right. - "Meet me in the park." 728 00:28:19,265 --> 00:28:20,597 - We can't text him. 729 00:28:20,666 --> 00:28:23,300 So I'm gonna just send him a message on Facebook. 730 00:28:23,369 --> 00:28:24,735 - Oh, wow. 731 00:28:24,804 --> 00:28:28,439 - "Hey Ace. This is Nev from 'Catfish.'" 732 00:28:28,507 --> 00:28:29,873 All right. I think that's pretty good. 733 00:28:29,942 --> 00:28:31,709 - He gonna have to get to that phone. 734 00:28:31,777 --> 00:28:33,143 - Oh, my God. 735 00:28:33,212 --> 00:28:34,845 - Well, let's see if he sees it. 736 00:28:34,914 --> 00:28:36,680 Is he usually pretty quick with his Facebook Messenger? 737 00:28:36,749 --> 00:28:39,216 - Yeah, he's usually pretty quick. 738 00:28:39,285 --> 00:28:40,984 [phone rings] - Oh, that's the number. 739 00:28:41,053 --> 00:28:42,453 He's calling from it. - The payphone. 740 00:28:42,521 --> 00:28:45,789 - Oh, it's the payphone. - Okay. 741 00:28:45,858 --> 00:28:47,057 Hello? 742 00:28:49,628 --> 00:28:51,528 - Yeah, hey, this is Ace? 743 00:28:52,565 --> 00:28:54,531 - Hey, man, how you doing? 744 00:28:55,167 --> 00:28:57,868 - Good, good, do you know about the show "Catfish?" 745 00:28:59,305 --> 00:29:00,771 - Okay, cool. 746 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,574 We're working on an episode now with a lady 747 00:29:03,642 --> 00:29:08,212 who I think you've been talking to named Tracii. 748 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,348 And we were just hoping we could get you guys 749 00:29:11,417 --> 00:29:15,419 to meet up, even virtually, face-to-face. 750 00:29:15,488 --> 00:29:17,588 We're in a Zoom, and just full disclosure, 751 00:29:17,656 --> 00:29:18,989 I wanna be honest with you. 752 00:29:20,459 --> 00:29:25,496 that the pictures that you had sent her are not actually you. 753 00:29:43,415 --> 00:29:45,783 - All right, so I'll send you that link, 754 00:29:45,851 --> 00:29:47,684 and we'll--I look forward to speaking with you. 755 00:29:48,954 --> 00:29:51,588 Thanks. 756 00:29:51,657 --> 00:29:53,223 He definitely was outside. 757 00:29:53,292 --> 00:29:57,127 - First of all, that is the first time in years 758 00:29:57,196 --> 00:30:00,564 that I've actually heard the phone be hung up. 759 00:30:00,633 --> 00:30:02,466 - Right, that's true. - I heard it, too. 760 00:30:02,535 --> 00:30:04,368 - That's true, it clicked. - It was a cl-clunk. 761 00:30:04,436 --> 00:30:05,836 - All right. Well, I sent the link. 762 00:30:05,905 --> 00:30:07,070 - Oh, God, okay. 763 00:30:07,139 --> 00:30:08,772 - Wait, so he said 764 00:30:08,841 --> 00:30:12,109 that he tried to reach out to you as himself and that you-- 765 00:30:12,178 --> 00:30:14,077 - It must have been before. 766 00:30:14,146 --> 00:30:15,913 - When? Yeah, who? 767 00:30:15,981 --> 00:30:18,782 - I mean, you might have had people message you and try to-- 768 00:30:18,851 --> 00:30:19,716 - Yeah. 769 00:30:19,785 --> 00:30:21,285 - Right, it probably happens often. 770 00:30:21,353 --> 00:30:23,921 So it could have been any number of guys who were like, 771 00:30:23,989 --> 00:30:25,255 "Hey, what's up?" 772 00:30:25,324 --> 00:30:28,425 - Oh, God, who is this? 773 00:30:28,494 --> 00:30:30,194 [computer chimes] 774 00:30:30,262 --> 00:30:33,063 [dramatic music] 775 00:30:33,132 --> 00:30:34,331 What is that? 776 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,067 - [indistinct] 777 00:30:37,136 --> 00:30:38,435 - Hello? 778 00:30:38,504 --> 00:30:41,738 ♪ ♪ 779 00:30:41,807 --> 00:30:43,607 - Hello. 780 00:30:43,676 --> 00:30:45,375 - Hello. - Hello. 781 00:30:45,444 --> 00:30:47,511 - Hi. - Hi there. 782 00:30:47,580 --> 00:30:49,479 - Obvious I'm not the person in the picture. 783 00:30:49,548 --> 00:30:50,981 - Yes. 784 00:30:51,050 --> 00:30:54,318 I see here on the Zoom, is your name Tyrone? 785 00:30:54,386 --> 00:30:55,919 Is that-- - Yeah. 786 00:30:55,988 --> 00:30:57,754 ♪ ♪ 787 00:30:57,823 --> 00:31:00,424 First of all, I wanna say, sorry to everyone, you know, 788 00:31:00,492 --> 00:31:03,260 putting y'all on a wild goose chase, especially Tracii. 789 00:31:03,329 --> 00:31:05,529 - Ah. - Wow, you look so good. 790 00:31:05,598 --> 00:31:07,497 Oh my God, you look so good. 791 00:31:07,566 --> 00:31:08,765 - You know what? 792 00:31:08,834 --> 00:31:11,034 - But yeah, I just wanna apologize 793 00:31:11,103 --> 00:31:14,071 and start off with saying I'm sorry. 794 00:31:14,139 --> 00:31:15,439 - Okay. - Wow. 795 00:31:15,507 --> 00:31:17,774 - So Tyrone, can you tell us a little bit about yourself? 796 00:31:17,843 --> 00:31:20,544 'Cause we don't--you know, we're all very curious. 797 00:31:20,613 --> 00:31:22,179 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 798 00:31:22,248 --> 00:31:27,718 So I am in LA, and I'm an artist, digital artist, 799 00:31:27,786 --> 00:31:29,920 and I do some modeling on the side, 800 00:31:29,989 --> 00:31:32,522 and I do travel and all that jazz. 801 00:31:32,591 --> 00:31:35,158 Of course I like leather, and I have a cat named King Julian 802 00:31:35,227 --> 00:31:39,029 who's on my bed over there, which if you can see him. 803 00:31:39,098 --> 00:31:40,464 - [laughing] 804 00:31:40,532 --> 00:31:41,832 Wait a minute. 805 00:31:41,901 --> 00:31:44,101 There's no way that this is the same person 806 00:31:44,169 --> 00:31:45,702 I've been talking to the whole time. 807 00:31:45,771 --> 00:31:48,772 The voice, it's not the same. 808 00:31:48,841 --> 00:31:51,275 - Yeah, yeah, it's Ace, baby. It's Ace. 809 00:31:51,343 --> 00:31:53,143 - [gasps] Oh, my God. 810 00:31:53,212 --> 00:31:54,978 Okay, I'm gone. I can't. 811 00:31:55,047 --> 00:31:56,313 - Yeah. 812 00:31:56,382 --> 00:31:57,881 - Oh, my goodness. 813 00:31:57,950 --> 00:32:00,651 - Come back. Get it together, baby. 814 00:32:00,719 --> 00:32:02,986 - Oh, my God. 815 00:32:04,423 --> 00:32:05,555 - It's Ace, baby. It's Ace. 816 00:32:05,624 --> 00:32:06,823 - [gasps] Oh, my God. 817 00:32:06,892 --> 00:32:08,692 Okay, I'm done. I can't. 818 00:32:08,761 --> 00:32:10,060 - Yeah. 819 00:32:10,129 --> 00:32:11,561 - Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. 820 00:32:11,630 --> 00:32:14,331 - Come back. Get it together, baby. 821 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,900 - Oh, my God. 822 00:32:18,804 --> 00:32:20,037 - Is she gonna come back? 823 00:32:20,105 --> 00:32:22,372 - Well, until she does, 824 00:32:22,441 --> 00:32:25,442 you seem like a very confident guy. 825 00:32:25,511 --> 00:32:27,811 - No, not necessarily. 826 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,280 I have my insecurities, too, just like everyone else. 827 00:32:30,349 --> 00:32:31,915 - Yeah, sure, yeah. 828 00:32:31,984 --> 00:32:34,117 - But you got a lot going on, so what the [bleep] 829 00:32:34,186 --> 00:32:38,722 are you doing on the internet pretending to be Ace Rockwood? 830 00:32:38,791 --> 00:32:40,958 I can't help how I feel about Tracii. 831 00:32:41,026 --> 00:32:44,161 I mean, my feelings are real. I'm just in a different form. 832 00:32:44,229 --> 00:32:46,363 You know, she could still get Ace. 833 00:32:46,432 --> 00:32:49,866 [tense music] 834 00:32:49,935 --> 00:32:51,969 Oh, she's back. 835 00:32:52,037 --> 00:32:54,905 ♪ ♪ 836 00:32:56,909 --> 00:33:00,143 - Okay, I'm sorry. I just needed a moment. 837 00:33:00,212 --> 00:33:02,112 - That's fine. - Yeah. 838 00:33:02,181 --> 00:33:05,449 - Hey, I know--look, I know I did a [bleep] thing. 839 00:33:05,517 --> 00:33:07,684 I did a very [bleep] thing. 840 00:33:07,753 --> 00:33:09,953 - And for a long time, too, it wasn't just like a week 841 00:33:10,022 --> 00:33:12,622 or two, or you know, even that would've been bad, 842 00:33:12,691 --> 00:33:15,792 but it's been damn near a year, like-- 843 00:33:15,861 --> 00:33:18,395 - My heart is still here for you honestly. 844 00:33:18,464 --> 00:33:21,365 I really like you because your energy, 845 00:33:21,433 --> 00:33:23,133 you're a wonderful mother. 846 00:33:23,202 --> 00:33:25,168 and you're just this cinnamon bear 847 00:33:25,237 --> 00:33:26,403 that I just love. 848 00:33:26,472 --> 00:33:27,971 I just want a nibble on you. 849 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,406 - That's creepy. 850 00:33:29,475 --> 00:33:30,941 - And I told you a thing I like about whipped cream. 851 00:33:31,010 --> 00:33:32,242 I really meant it. 852 00:33:32,311 --> 00:33:34,077 I like whipped cream with chocolate. 853 00:33:34,146 --> 00:33:35,612 - Um... 854 00:33:35,681 --> 00:33:39,049 - And I wanna eat that body-ody-ody-ody-ody, eh, eh. 855 00:33:39,118 --> 00:33:42,786 - Well... - [laughing] 856 00:33:42,855 --> 00:33:45,255 - You know, I like your chocolate self, come on now. 857 00:33:45,324 --> 00:33:46,890 It's nothing but love for you, baby. 858 00:33:46,959 --> 00:33:48,325 - Oh, my God. 859 00:33:48,394 --> 00:33:49,593 - And I'm willing to get this hair of mine 860 00:33:49,661 --> 00:33:52,329 and rub it in your under "beyondas" and your whoo-ha, 861 00:33:52,398 --> 00:33:53,463 and get you all excited. 862 00:33:53,532 --> 00:33:54,898 - Oh, um... 863 00:33:54,967 --> 00:33:57,401 - You know, it's all real for you, it's all real. 864 00:33:57,469 --> 00:34:00,137 - We can go ahead and pass on all that. 865 00:34:00,205 --> 00:34:01,838 - What is going on? 866 00:34:01,907 --> 00:34:03,907 - Well, I mean, look, Tyrone, it would be great 867 00:34:03,976 --> 00:34:05,809 if you could drop the act, and we could just say, 868 00:34:05,878 --> 00:34:08,645 take it down a little bit 'cause I want to talk to you, 869 00:34:08,714 --> 00:34:11,248 and I don't want you to feel like you need to perform, 870 00:34:11,316 --> 00:34:12,849 I just want you to talk to us. 871 00:34:12,918 --> 00:34:15,719 First of all, it would appear to us that you have 872 00:34:15,788 --> 00:34:19,022 at least recently been talking to her via a payphone. 873 00:34:19,091 --> 00:34:20,791 Are we right about that? 874 00:34:20,859 --> 00:34:24,861 - Yeah, it's actually right next to my apartment. 875 00:34:24,930 --> 00:34:27,130 - And why are you using a payphone? 876 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:31,168 - Because she'll find out my true identity super fast. 877 00:34:31,236 --> 00:34:33,303 All she has to do--you know us millennials, 878 00:34:33,372 --> 00:34:36,206 you know, this generation, period, is super smart. 879 00:34:36,275 --> 00:34:38,375 You can easily just put somebody phone in Facebook, 880 00:34:38,444 --> 00:34:39,843 and it pops up. 881 00:34:39,912 --> 00:34:41,344 - Right, right. So you have been in LA? 882 00:34:41,413 --> 00:34:42,846 - Yes. 883 00:34:42,915 --> 00:34:45,215 - You had told Tracii that next month 884 00:34:45,284 --> 00:34:47,918 you were gonna fly her out to Miami to visit you. 885 00:34:47,986 --> 00:34:50,454 Like, were you going to do that? 886 00:34:50,522 --> 00:34:52,289 - What was the plan? - Yeah. 887 00:34:52,357 --> 00:34:54,091 - Well, what I was gonna do is like, 888 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:57,160 we were just gonna have a little vacation. 889 00:34:57,229 --> 00:34:59,963 But eventually, I was gonna show her my real self. 890 00:35:00,032 --> 00:35:02,199 I just didn't know how, and that's another reason 891 00:35:02,267 --> 00:35:04,734 why I'm finding, like, this "Catfish" is a blessing, 892 00:35:04,803 --> 00:35:07,637 and I might look a little silly or goofy and all of that, 893 00:35:07,706 --> 00:35:09,372 but you know, I know I deserve love, 894 00:35:09,441 --> 00:35:10,674 and you deserve it, too. 895 00:35:10,742 --> 00:35:14,744 - Absolutely, everyone deserves love definitely, 896 00:35:14,813 --> 00:35:17,981 but the way you went about it was just the wrong way. 897 00:35:18,050 --> 00:35:20,117 You know, you came in with a lie, like you said, 898 00:35:20,185 --> 00:35:22,185 you reached out to me before--I don't remember 899 00:35:22,254 --> 00:35:23,687 you ever reaching out to me. 900 00:35:23,755 --> 00:35:26,656 You could have approached me, you know, the regular way. 901 00:35:26,725 --> 00:35:28,758 - Maybe it was with a different profile, 902 00:35:28,827 --> 00:35:31,928 and I don't remember, but I do remember Tracii [bleep]. 903 00:35:31,997 --> 00:35:33,396 So I don't know. 904 00:35:33,465 --> 00:35:38,068 - You have other profiles other than the Ace Davis profile? 905 00:35:38,137 --> 00:35:40,904 - Oh, shoot. I done told on myself, hell. 906 00:35:40,973 --> 00:35:43,874 - Okay. But my whole thing is, why? 907 00:35:43,942 --> 00:35:45,709 Doesn't it take extra to sit here 908 00:35:45,777 --> 00:35:48,078 and make fake profiles and do all this stuff? 909 00:35:48,147 --> 00:35:49,713 That's a lot. 910 00:35:49,781 --> 00:35:51,581 - Originally, the profiles were just more like me 911 00:35:51,650 --> 00:35:53,984 spying on my exes when I know they were cheating, 912 00:35:54,052 --> 00:35:56,319 and I ended up keeping a lot of those profiles. 913 00:35:56,388 --> 00:36:00,056 And then as COVID, and the protested, 914 00:36:00,125 --> 00:36:02,092 and George Floyd, and all that other stuff, 915 00:36:02,161 --> 00:36:04,361 it really made me very sad and depressed. 916 00:36:04,429 --> 00:36:08,698 I was going through a spiral of an anxiety and missing people, 917 00:36:08,767 --> 00:36:12,202 human interaction, so I made this profile Ace. 918 00:36:12,271 --> 00:36:14,871 - How many other profiles do you have that you use? 919 00:36:14,940 --> 00:36:19,276 - I probably have like 10 or 15. 920 00:36:19,344 --> 00:36:23,079 - But you do use your other profiles to talk to people? 921 00:36:23,148 --> 00:36:24,581 - Yeah. 922 00:36:24,650 --> 00:36:28,051 - Some of them are your ex relationships? 923 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,586 - Yes. 924 00:36:29,655 --> 00:36:30,854 - How many people are you talking to 925 00:36:30,923 --> 00:36:33,623 right now including Tracii? 926 00:36:33,692 --> 00:36:38,228 - It's, like, at least over 20, but-- 927 00:36:38,297 --> 00:36:39,396 - Wow. 928 00:36:39,464 --> 00:36:41,364 - They're not as serious as her. 929 00:36:41,433 --> 00:36:43,333 - And are you in love with Tracii? 930 00:36:43,402 --> 00:36:44,868 - Yes. 931 00:36:44,937 --> 00:36:46,236 - And are you in love with any of these other people? 932 00:36:46,305 --> 00:36:47,737 - No. 933 00:36:47,806 --> 00:36:49,306 - Do you love any of these other people? 934 00:36:49,374 --> 00:36:50,840 - No, no. 935 00:36:50,909 --> 00:36:52,642 The other people, they were just playing, 936 00:36:52,711 --> 00:36:54,511 and honestly, a lot of them blocked me. 937 00:36:54,580 --> 00:36:55,946 - Tyrone, it sounds like 938 00:36:56,014 --> 00:36:57,380 you don't know how to take a [bleep]ing hint. 939 00:36:57,449 --> 00:37:00,884 Like, why not just meet somebody who likes you for you? 940 00:37:00,953 --> 00:37:02,152 - Exactly. 941 00:37:02,221 --> 00:37:05,055 - Why are you creating these false personas 942 00:37:05,123 --> 00:37:07,190 and leading on these long relationships 943 00:37:07,259 --> 00:37:10,627 - And wasting your time checking out exes 944 00:37:10,696 --> 00:37:12,495 when you could be making new, you know-- 945 00:37:12,564 --> 00:37:14,264 - Exactly. 946 00:37:14,333 --> 00:37:15,966 - It honestly has been really tough for me. 947 00:37:16,034 --> 00:37:18,034 I'm pansexual. 948 00:37:18,103 --> 00:37:20,670 So it's all about energy for me. 949 00:37:20,739 --> 00:37:23,106 I have dated transgender. 950 00:37:23,175 --> 00:37:27,377 I've dated men and female, and I don't really see sex, 951 00:37:27,446 --> 00:37:29,613 but it's so hard to actually find somebody 952 00:37:29,681 --> 00:37:31,114 who actually loves all of this. 953 00:37:31,183 --> 00:37:32,816 And the first thing they look at is the hair. 954 00:37:32,884 --> 00:37:34,818 And then the way I present myself, I don't know. 955 00:37:34,886 --> 00:37:36,253 I don't know if it's intimidating, 956 00:37:36,321 --> 00:37:37,954 or if it's just a little too much for them. 957 00:37:38,023 --> 00:37:41,191 With the Ace character, I just felt invincible. 958 00:37:41,260 --> 00:37:44,494 It was like the shield. Like, I felt like Superman. 959 00:37:44,563 --> 00:37:46,296 - I get all of that. 960 00:37:46,365 --> 00:37:48,298 But for someone who has so much going for themselves, 961 00:37:48,367 --> 00:37:51,167 for someone who is loud and proud pansexual. 962 00:37:52,604 --> 00:37:54,938 - For someone who is living in that kind of truth, 963 00:37:55,007 --> 00:37:59,075 to be upholding these lies is just... 964 00:37:59,144 --> 00:38:00,744 - Hypocrite. 965 00:38:00,812 --> 00:38:04,247 - It makes no sense. You have no reason to. 966 00:38:04,316 --> 00:38:08,685 You could meet somebody great, but instead, we're channeling 967 00:38:08,754 --> 00:38:11,855 our sadness and anger into multiple profiles. 968 00:38:11,923 --> 00:38:13,423 - I wish I could go back in time and fix it, 969 00:38:13,492 --> 00:38:14,858 but I can't. 970 00:38:14,926 --> 00:38:17,594 You know, all I can do is move forward from here. 971 00:38:17,663 --> 00:38:19,796 All I'm asking for is forgiveness. 972 00:38:19,865 --> 00:38:21,831 You know, you don't have to do it today, 973 00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:24,901 'cause I don't wanna come across as a douchebag, 974 00:38:24,970 --> 00:38:27,170 even though it's kind of looking like I'm a douchebag. 975 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,574 But I really am genuinely sorry for what I've put you through. 976 00:38:31,643 --> 00:38:33,109 [tense music] 977 00:38:33,178 --> 00:38:35,045 - I'd like to hear from you, Tracii. 978 00:38:35,113 --> 00:38:37,314 I'm just curious kind of where you are with everything. 979 00:38:37,382 --> 00:38:39,716 - Um... 980 00:38:39,785 --> 00:38:42,385 I'm a forgiving person. I forgive him. 981 00:38:42,454 --> 00:38:44,554 You know, I appreciate him apologizing. 982 00:38:44,623 --> 00:38:46,823 That still doesn't take away 983 00:38:46,892 --> 00:38:49,526 how I feel, like how I was hurt and affected. 984 00:38:49,594 --> 00:38:52,762 You know, again, I'll accept his apology, 985 00:38:52,831 --> 00:38:55,832 but I feel like anything moving forward for me 986 00:38:55,901 --> 00:38:58,368 is definitely a hard no. 987 00:38:58,437 --> 00:39:01,438 [soft music] 988 00:39:01,506 --> 00:39:03,573 - Mm-hmm, that's fair. - Yeah. 989 00:39:03,642 --> 00:39:06,643 I don't want any communication going forward. 990 00:39:06,712 --> 00:39:08,278 - And it's gonna take me some time 991 00:39:08,347 --> 00:39:11,047 to lose my medicine for the day, you know, 992 00:39:11,116 --> 00:39:13,016 'cause you're like medicine and you know. 993 00:39:13,085 --> 00:39:14,951 I'm just saying. I'm just keeping it real. 994 00:39:15,020 --> 00:39:16,219 You're like a drug-- - Yeah. 995 00:39:16,288 --> 00:39:17,854 - That I can't let go of, you know, 996 00:39:17,923 --> 00:39:22,292 but I know I gotta respect your decision and your life. 997 00:39:22,361 --> 00:39:25,261 - All right, well, my questions have been answered. 998 00:39:25,330 --> 00:39:27,130 I don't know if anyone else has anything they need to say, 999 00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:29,899 but I think, Tyrone, it was nice to meet you. 1000 00:39:29,968 --> 00:39:31,868 Now I think we'll say goodbye, 1001 00:39:31,937 --> 00:39:34,471 and I think it's safe to say that should in the future, 1002 00:39:34,539 --> 00:39:37,574 Tracii want to reach out and connect, it'll be up to her. 1003 00:39:37,642 --> 00:39:39,042 - She will find you. 1004 00:39:39,111 --> 00:39:40,610 - And she'll find you. - Absolutely. 1005 00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:43,847 And I am deleting the profile, so I'm gonna get rid of that. 1006 00:39:43,915 --> 00:39:45,648 - Okay, all right, well, good. 1007 00:39:45,717 --> 00:39:47,283 - All right, Tyrone. - Okay, Tyrone. 1008 00:39:47,352 --> 00:39:48,718 - Good luck. 1009 00:39:48,787 --> 00:39:50,653 - Bye-bye, thank you. 1010 00:39:50,722 --> 00:39:52,288 - Bye. - See ya. 1011 00:39:52,357 --> 00:39:54,257 - Bye. 1012 00:39:54,326 --> 00:39:55,258 Awkward. 1013 00:39:55,327 --> 00:39:57,293 - The Lord bless him. Bless his heart. 1014 00:39:57,362 --> 00:39:58,795 - Okay. 1015 00:39:58,864 --> 00:40:01,331 - Tracii, how are you? 1016 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,866 - A lot of emotions. 1017 00:40:02,934 --> 00:40:05,568 Maybe I just need to take a break on dating for now 1018 00:40:05,637 --> 00:40:07,036 and just focus on other things 1019 00:40:07,105 --> 00:40:09,506 because it was already scary, now it's scarier. 1020 00:40:09,574 --> 00:40:14,110 - We can't let Tyrone keep you from meeting somebody special. 1021 00:40:14,179 --> 00:40:16,646 And, like, there's still Ace Rockwood in Miami. 1022 00:40:16,715 --> 00:40:18,281 - Yeah. - He's really cute. 1023 00:40:18,350 --> 00:40:19,983 - I mean, at this point, if I were you, 1024 00:40:20,051 --> 00:40:22,685 I would be booking that flight. 1025 00:40:22,754 --> 00:40:24,521 - [laughs] 1026 00:40:24,589 --> 00:40:25,755 - Take care, Tracii. 1027 00:40:25,824 --> 00:40:26,956 - Thank you. You guys, too. 1028 00:40:27,025 --> 00:40:28,558 Have a good rest of your day. - Bye. 1029 00:40:28,627 --> 00:40:29,692 - Bye, thank you so much. 1030 00:40:29,761 --> 00:40:31,094 ♪ ♪ 1031 00:40:31,163 --> 00:40:34,998 - ♪ If your love's in disguise ♪ 1032 00:40:35,066 --> 00:40:37,667 ♪ Then you're not loving anyone but yourself ♪ 1033 00:40:37,736 --> 00:40:41,538 ♪ Some things never, some things never ♪ 1034 00:40:41,606 --> 00:40:45,475 ♪ Some things never break ♪ 1035 00:40:45,544 --> 00:40:50,914 ♪ ♪ 1036 00:40:52,984 --> 00:40:55,952 A year ago, Michael slides into Romeo's DM. [upbeat mu 1037 00:40:56,021 --> 00:40:57,387 - He was so generous and so sweet. 1038 00:40:57,456 --> 00:40:59,189 He's saying he want a future with me, 1039 00:40:59,257 --> 00:41:01,124 but I still haven't seen this man yet. 1040 00:41:01,193 --> 00:41:02,592 - Oh! 1041 00:41:02,661 --> 00:41:04,661 - "I'm not a catfish." 1042 00:41:04,729 --> 00:41:05,962 - Some weird [bleep] is going down. 1043 00:41:06,031 --> 00:41:08,531 - What is going on? [computer chimes] 1044 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,433 - Oh. - Oh, no.