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- ♪ MTV ♪
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- Myldred met KJ
when she was 16.
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Then this girl India
sees Myldred
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commenting on KJ's pictures.
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They discover that they're both
in the same boat.
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- He told me he was a scammer.
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- Everything was pretty good
until, like,
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all the lies started coming up.
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- Oh, my God, why does this guy
have so many Facebook pages?
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- What?
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- I've seen multiple girls
hit up and text him.
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- If this is the last
thing we do,
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we're gonna catch
a serial catfish.
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Oh, oh.
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- Hey.
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- Hey, I'm very confus--what?
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[dramatic music]
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Let's do it!
We're back.
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This episode was supposed to be
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our first episode fully
back on the road.
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Unfortunately, because
of the delta variant
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we are going to film
at the office again,
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which means
we're still in masks.
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Hello.
- I'm not happy.
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We're supposed
to be on the road.
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We're supposed to be out,
living life.
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Get [bleep] vaccinated
so we can leave this bitch.
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[laughs]
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- All right, here we go.
- This is gonna be great.
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We're changing the energy,
shifting it around, whoo!
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- Ooh, an email from Myldred.
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"It's time for the truth.
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"Dear Nev and Kamie,
my name is Myldred.
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"I'm 23 and I live
in South Carolina,
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and I think you guys
are my last best hope."
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- That sounds very dark.
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- "Six years ago, I was
catfished by a guy named KJ.
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"KJ had a good heart,
and he has been there for me
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"during the times
that I've needed him,
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"but he lied a lot.
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"He actually admitted
that his pictures weren't real,
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"so I broke things off
with him.
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"He disappeared for two years,
but this past January,
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we started
talking regularly again."
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- ♪ When the lights go down ♪
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- "He was saying he loved me
and getting upset
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"when I wouldn't say it back.
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But I knew
I couldn't trust him."
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- ♪ On and on and on
and on and on ♪
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- "But then in June,
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"I got a message
from this girl named India
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"because she was trying to
figure out
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"if KJ was a catfish.
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"India and I started working
together to try to figure out
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"who exactly
we'd been talking to.
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"I'm not interested
in dating KJ,
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"but he is important to me,
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"and I've come too close to
finding the truth to stop now.
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"I know India and I aren't
the only girls
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"he's done this
to over the years.
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Do you want to help us
catch a serial catfish?"
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- ♪ On and on and on ♪
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- So this is unusual.
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We might actually be helping
two people find this KJ guy.
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- We already know KJ's
a catfish.
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He said it.
- Right.
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What I want to know is
when he popped back up,
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did he present
who he actually is?
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- Who knows how many other
girls KJ has done this to.
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- That's true.
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Myldred gave us her info
and India's info.
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Let's just
FaceTime Myldred first.
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Hello?
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- Oh, my God.
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- Hey!
- Is this Myldred?
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Sorry we're FaceTiming you
with no appointment.
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It was Nev's idea.
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- I'm just in shock mode.
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- Connection here's
a little funny.
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Do you mind if we maybe
switch over to Zoom?
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We can send you a link,
and you can--
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- Yeah, we can do that.
- All right, perfect.
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- Okay, see you.
- Bye!
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- All right.
I'm gonna message her.
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I sent Myldred the link
to our Zoom.
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- Let's hit up India, too.
- Yeah.
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Let me text India and see if
she's around to chat as well.
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- How did India find Myldred
in the first place?
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- That's a good question.
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- Hello?
- Myldred.
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- Hey!
- What's up?
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- Nothing much.
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- So you're 23 now.
- Yes.
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- And you live
in South Carolina.
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What do you do down there?
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- I'm about
to open my own store.
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It's like a clothing...
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we have everything
in there really.
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- Fun.
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- A Little lifestyle
brand action.
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- Well, we're still trying
to make sense of the story.
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- We got a lot of questions.
Right.
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We reached out to India, too.
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Hopefully, she'll join us
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to help fill us in
on all of this,
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but elaborate a bit more
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what's been going on
the last six years.
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- Well, we met when he slid
into my DM,
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but then I ended up
finding out that wasn't him.
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- He has since changed
his photos?
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- All right.
So wait, we'll get to that.
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So what happened
after he slid into your DMs?
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- Then we started talking
on Kik,
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and that's where
we started dating really.
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- And you're 23 now,
so you were 17?
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- I was 16.
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- And how old was KJ?
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- He told me he was 16
at the time also.
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- Where did he say he lives?
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- At the time, he told me
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he was living
in North Carolina.
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- So he's close?
- Yeah, he was really close.
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- All right, walk us
through what went down.
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- Well, everything was good
between us at the time,
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and then around the end
of 2016,
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it was just, like,
a lot of problems.
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It was always excuses,
not wanting to see me.
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He couldn't come.
His car broke, mommy issues.
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And then I tried to video
call him back around
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when we first started dating.
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I didn't really get to see,
like, his face.
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I only saw his back.
So I was like, okay.
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- Hold on, wait.
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So you did FaceTime with him,
but you only saw his back?
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- Yeah.
- That's so [bleep]ing weird.
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If I answered a video call,
and I saw the back
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of somebody's head like that,
I would call the police.
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How long did that call last?
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- Ten minutes.
- And you heard their voice?
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- I didn't
really hear the voice.
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I only saw the back
of his head.
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- But they were talking
to you, right?
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- No, it was on mute.
- What?
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You spent ten minutes talking
to the back of someone's head?
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- Pretty much.
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- That's very strange.
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- So then at some point,
you say you discovered
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that the pictures
he sent you weren't him.
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When did that happen?
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- I think, 2018, I had a friend
that was a model,
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and I was going
through his followers,
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and I ended up seeing somebody
with pictures of KJ.
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So I DM'd him, "Hey KJ,"
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and he was like "Wrong person,
I don't know you."
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- I'm assuming you sent
a screenshot of that to KJ.
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- Yeah, I confronted him
about it, and he told me
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he felt like my parents
wouldn't approve of him
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because he had all
the tattoos on his face.
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He ended up
sending me another picture.
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- Of the new tattoo guy?
- Yes.
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And then eventually,
I realized
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it's always gonna be
the same story.
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He's never gonna come see me,
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so I just cut it off
then and there.
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- All right, so let's fast
forward to present day.
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You mentioned in your email
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that you and KJ started
talking again in January.
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- Mm-hmm.
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- Are you feeling as though
things are moving
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potentially toward
a relationship again?
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- At the time yeah, but then
around May, it was my birthday.
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He was supposed to come see me,
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but then he told me that he
couldn't come see me anymore
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because the cops were
following him.
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So I eventually got mad,
and I told him
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that I was having
a guy friend over.
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And he got mad,
and then he ended up telling me
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that he's in a relationship
with India,
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and he also had a child.
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He ended up showing me pictures
of India and the baby.
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India, thank God,
messaged me two weeks later,
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and she was like,
"Hey, have you met KJ?"
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And I was like, "Huh,
aren't you his baby mama?"
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She was like,
"No, we just started talking."
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- What?
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She was confused why
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he was even sending me
those type of pictures.
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- Hold up, wait.
Can we go back for a second?
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The cops were following him
for what?
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- He told me he was a scammer.
- A scammer?
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- Yeah.
- This guy sounds insane.
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- This sounds crazy.
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- He's never asked you
for money, right?
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- No.
- That's something.
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But why do we like him?
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- It was after
my last relationship,
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it was just really,
really bad for me,
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and he was there
to talk me out of it.
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KJ was basically
my first love.
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He's very funny, very caring,
and a good listener.
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He was just my everything,
I thought he was my soul mate.
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- Whoa, wait.
India just wrote back to us.
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She said "Oh, my God, really?"
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- Okay.
- Cool.
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- "Yes!
Come join our Zoom!"
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And you've let India know that
you reached out to us, right?
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And that you're hoping
we can help you guys?
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- Yes, I told her about it.
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- And over this time,
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were other women popping up
that he had been talking to?
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- A lot.
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- Were they just posting
on his page?
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- Yeah.
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- Interesting.
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- India, hello!
- Hey!
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- How are you guys?
- Hi.
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- I see that KJ has a thing
for pretty girls with lashes.
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I mean, wow.
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- So wait a second, so India,
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obviously you and Myldred
already know each other.
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- Mm-hmm.
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- Can you just explain
how you and KJ met
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and what your relationship is?
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- Well, we met on Instagram.
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I got a text on Instagram like,
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"Oh, hey, you're pretty."
And I'm like, "Oh, thank you."
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And then we started talking
on the phone.
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We really got a good
connection after a while.
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We'd be on the phone
from the morning to the night.
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We'd sleep on the phone.
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- Wow.
- We talked a lot.
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We got really close.
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Everything was pretty good
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until, like, all the lies
started coming up.
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- Mm-hmm!
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- How did you find Myldred
in the first place?
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- So we were supposed
to be dating, and he told me
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he wasn't talking
to no other girls,
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but I didn't believe him,
so I started looking through,
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like, his followers,
and I found Myldred.
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I was like,
"Hey, do you know who KJ is?"
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And she was like,
"Yeah, I've talked to him."
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And then she's like,
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"Oh, I thought
you were his baby mama."
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And I was like,
"No, I'm not his baby mama.
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I don't even have a baby."
247
00:09:43,183 --> 00:09:45,250
- All of this is weird.
- It is.
248
00:09:45,319 --> 00:09:46,685
- Really weird.
249
00:09:46,753 --> 00:09:48,486
- And are you
still interested in him?
250
00:09:48,555 --> 00:09:49,754
Are you guys still talking?
251
00:09:49,823 --> 00:09:51,356
Well, I still talk to him.
252
00:09:51,425 --> 00:09:53,325
If he is who he is
in the second picture,
253
00:09:53,393 --> 00:09:54,526
then I'd still want to talk
to him.
254
00:09:54,595 --> 00:09:55,660
He's a good person.
255
00:09:55,729 --> 00:09:57,162
But at the same time
if he's not,
256
00:09:57,230 --> 00:09:58,563
then, you know.
257
00:09:58,632 --> 00:10:00,098
- Wait, you said
second picture.
258
00:10:00,167 --> 00:10:01,399
Did he show you someone first,
and then he said,
259
00:10:01,468 --> 00:10:03,068
"Oh, no, that's not me.
I'm someone else"?
260
00:10:03,136 --> 00:10:05,203
- Yeah, we started looking
at the pictures closely,
261
00:10:05,272 --> 00:10:06,705
like, trying to figure out
little things,
262
00:10:06,773 --> 00:10:09,874
and I see on his stomach,
his stomach said "guapo,"
263
00:10:09,943 --> 00:10:12,611
so then that's when I found
the actual guy in the picture,
264
00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,381
Jose Guapo, the rapper,
and I was like, oh.
265
00:10:16,450 --> 00:10:18,350
- Who is Jose Guapo?
266
00:10:19,586 --> 00:10:21,019
that you mentioned
- with the face tattoos?y
267
00:10:21,088 --> 00:10:22,187
- Yeah.
268
00:10:22,255 --> 00:10:24,356
- So now I'm like,
"KJ, did you catfish me?"
269
00:10:24,424 --> 00:10:26,958
And he's like, "Yeah, hold on.
I'll send you pictures."
270
00:10:27,027 --> 00:10:28,860
So I'm waiting.
He finally sends me a picture.
271
00:10:28,929 --> 00:10:30,695
It's another handsome man,
272
00:10:30,764 --> 00:10:32,664
but I just feel like
it's another lie.
273
00:10:32,733 --> 00:10:33,865
- Yeah.
274
00:10:33,934 --> 00:10:36,067
- [blows raspberry]
- [laughs]
275
00:10:36,136 --> 00:10:37,702
- All right, just so we
get this all down,
276
00:10:37,771 --> 00:10:38,903
starting with you, Myldred.
277
00:10:38,972 --> 00:10:40,472
Can you--
- Yeah.
278
00:10:40,540 --> 00:10:42,707
- You guys the pictures
that you thought were of KJ?
279
00:10:42,776 --> 00:10:43,975
- Yeah.
280
00:10:44,044 --> 00:10:46,945
Okay, that's the old one,
281
00:10:47,014 --> 00:10:49,180
the very first one
that he showed me,
282
00:10:49,249 --> 00:10:52,751
and that's the one
he told me that was him.
283
00:10:52,819 --> 00:10:54,953
- So he's got
a few tattoos on his face.
284
00:10:55,022 --> 00:10:56,688
- And you've seen
this picture, India?
285
00:10:56,757 --> 00:10:59,124
- Yeah, that's Jose Guapo.
- Got it.
286
00:10:59,192 --> 00:11:02,227
- India, can you show us
the new picture?
287
00:11:02,295 --> 00:11:05,196
- That's my KJ.
- Okay.
288
00:11:05,265 --> 00:11:08,199
- Chile, you can have him.
She said, "That's my KJ."
289
00:11:08,268 --> 00:11:11,069
Why the [bleep] are we still
talking to this man?
290
00:11:11,138 --> 00:11:12,637
- I don't know,
I just feel like times
291
00:11:12,706 --> 00:11:14,339
we did talk,
everything went well.
292
00:11:14,408 --> 00:11:16,174
He was there for me
when I needed him.
293
00:11:16,243 --> 00:11:18,209
He's very kind,
he's sweet, he's funny.
294
00:11:18,278 --> 00:11:21,012
If he can come clean and,
like, tell me the truth,
295
00:11:21,081 --> 00:11:23,148
like who he is and why
he did all this or whatever,
296
00:11:23,216 --> 00:11:25,383
then I feel like there
could be something there.
297
00:11:25,452 --> 00:11:28,787
- Okay, and Myldred,
you're not trying to date KJ.
298
00:11:28,855 --> 00:11:30,321
- I just want to ask him
299
00:11:30,390 --> 00:11:33,224
why did he catfish me
for six years.
300
00:11:33,293 --> 00:11:35,760
- So you basically want
to confront him.
301
00:11:35,829 --> 00:11:37,429
- Mm-hmm.
302
00:11:37,497 --> 00:11:38,697
- Me too.
303
00:11:38,765 --> 00:11:40,231
- All right.
So we need to find this guy.
304
00:11:40,300 --> 00:11:42,734
So what do you know about KJ?
305
00:11:42,803 --> 00:11:44,102
Myldred, where did he say
he lived
306
00:11:44,171 --> 00:11:45,203
when you were talking to him?
307
00:11:45,272 --> 00:11:47,305
- Back then,
he said North Carolina.
308
00:11:47,374 --> 00:11:48,673
- Okay, and, India,
309
00:11:48,742 --> 00:11:50,975
where did he say he lived
when you talked to him?
310
00:11:51,044 --> 00:11:53,678
- Boston, and sometimes
he said in Rochester.
311
00:11:53,747 --> 00:11:56,347
- Do you guys have
the same phone number for KJ?
312
00:11:56,416 --> 00:11:57,716
- Yeah.
- Mm-hmm.
313
00:11:57,784 --> 00:12:01,653
- Got it, and how old does
he say he is to you, Myldred?
314
00:12:01,722 --> 00:12:03,655
- I think just turned 24.
315
00:12:03,724 --> 00:12:04,889
- Okay, and what
about you, India?
316
00:12:04,958 --> 00:12:06,357
- He told me he was 21.
317
00:12:06,426 --> 00:12:07,892
- So we don't know
how old he is.
318
00:12:07,961 --> 00:12:09,828
We don't really even
necessarily know his name.
319
00:12:09,896 --> 00:12:11,529
We don't know where he lives.
320
00:12:11,598 --> 00:12:13,264
We don't know anything
about this guy.
321
00:12:13,333 --> 00:12:15,366
- I just want him to take down
that page, to be honest,
322
00:12:15,435 --> 00:12:18,436
because I've seen multiple
girls hit up and text him,
323
00:12:18,505 --> 00:12:20,205
so I could just imagine
of what I didn't see.
324
00:12:20,273 --> 00:12:21,706
Like, you know what I'm saying?
325
00:12:21,775 --> 00:12:23,108
Like, there's probably
a lot of girls out there.
326
00:12:23,176 --> 00:12:24,809
- Yeah.
- All right, guys.
327
00:12:24,878 --> 00:12:28,079
I'm excited to figure out
what the heck is going on here,
328
00:12:28,148 --> 00:12:30,715
and hopefully confront
a serial catfish,
329
00:12:30,784 --> 00:12:33,351
and put an end
to this craziness.
330
00:12:33,420 --> 00:12:34,686
We'll talk soon.
331
00:12:34,755 --> 00:12:37,322
- Bye.
- See ya.
332
00:12:37,390 --> 00:12:39,524
That is the craziest [bleep]
I've ever heard.
333
00:12:39,593 --> 00:12:42,026
To send the pictures
of India to Myldred.
334
00:12:42,095 --> 00:12:44,028
- And to say it's
your baby mama, it's like--
335
00:12:44,097 --> 00:12:45,296
- It's the audacity for me.
336
00:12:45,365 --> 00:12:47,232
- I mean, at this point
I'm concerned
337
00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:51,102
about the countless women
that might be on the hook
338
00:12:51,171 --> 00:12:52,771
thinking they're in
a relationship with this guy,
339
00:12:52,839 --> 00:12:54,272
and setting them free.
340
00:12:54,341 --> 00:12:57,442
So if this is
the last thing we do,
341
00:12:57,511 --> 00:13:00,512
we're gonna find out
the truth about KJ.
342
00:13:02,015 --> 00:13:03,348
- Biggie.
He cannot be found.
343
00:13:03,416 --> 00:13:05,116
Biggie!
344
00:13:05,185 --> 00:13:08,953
- Well, we took a little break.
We seem to have lost Biggie.
345
00:13:09,022 --> 00:13:11,256
But that doesn't mean
we can't find KJ, so...
346
00:13:11,324 --> 00:13:14,025
- True, there's still hope yet.
- There's still hope for today.
347
00:13:14,094 --> 00:13:15,894
- Oh, man.
Where's my child though?
348
00:13:15,962 --> 00:13:18,530
Where did you go?
Get in here.
349
00:13:18,598 --> 00:13:20,832
Biggie, you've been
acting crazy all day.
350
00:13:20,901 --> 00:13:23,868
We're gonna talk about this
when we get home.
351
00:13:23,937 --> 00:13:25,970
- All right.
352
00:13:26,039 --> 00:13:29,941
I'm gonna try my best
to summarize the situation.
353
00:13:30,010 --> 00:13:34,279
Myldred met KJ via Instagram
when she was 16.
354
00:13:34,347 --> 00:13:37,615
They started talking on Kik.
Myldred was really into him.
355
00:13:37,684 --> 00:13:39,951
But excuse, after excuse,
after excuse,
356
00:13:40,020 --> 00:13:42,120
things sort of started
to fade a little bit.
357
00:13:42,189 --> 00:13:45,023
She figured out at some point
that he was a catfish.
358
00:13:45,091 --> 00:13:46,224
Myldred decides,
359
00:13:46,293 --> 00:13:47,592
"Okay, I'm not gonna mess
with this guy anymore."
360
00:13:47,661 --> 00:13:49,661
At some point,
KJ pops up and says,
361
00:13:49,729 --> 00:13:51,529
"Hey, just so you know,
this is my baby mama."
362
00:13:51,598 --> 00:13:52,997
- India.
- India.
363
00:13:53,066 --> 00:13:55,133
India sees Myldred commenting
on the pictures,
364
00:13:55,202 --> 00:13:57,001
reaches out to her,
they talk, they discover
365
00:13:57,070 --> 00:14:00,171
that they're both in the same
boat with KJ being sus.
366
00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,873
- Cheating on both of them.
- Lying to them.
367
00:14:01,942 --> 00:14:05,176
We've clearly got a guy here
who's not only doing a poor job
368
00:14:05,245 --> 00:14:09,614
of convincing people
that he's a real person,
369
00:14:09,683 --> 00:14:12,183
but he's also quick to admit
when he's caught.
370
00:14:13,386 --> 00:14:16,421
- And then amazingly,
just create a new lie
371
00:14:16,489 --> 00:14:19,591
and find that girls
will continue talking to him.
372
00:14:19,659 --> 00:14:21,459
- Because he's there for them.
- Right.
373
00:14:21,528 --> 00:14:24,762
- India in particular wants
to end up with the real KJ
374
00:14:24,831 --> 00:14:27,532
at the end of this.
375
00:14:27,601 --> 00:14:30,268
- "Hey guys, here's everything
- Let' we know about KJ."t us.
376
00:14:30,337 --> 00:14:32,670
KJ's number.
Here's his Instagram.
377
00:14:32,739 --> 00:14:33,771
- "[bleep] the glock"?
378
00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,907
- He told me that he was 24
379
00:14:35,976 --> 00:14:38,243
and that he's lived in North
and South Carolina.
380
00:14:38,311 --> 00:14:40,979
He told India that he was 21
and that he lives in Boston.
381
00:14:41,047 --> 00:14:43,414
We have three photos,
the original guy
382
00:14:43,483 --> 00:14:46,651
I found years ago on Instagram,
the rapper Jose Guapo,
383
00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,620
and then the new guy
he gave to India
384
00:14:48,688 --> 00:14:50,288
that we haven't found
a real page for.
385
00:14:50,357 --> 00:14:52,957
Jose Guapo's Instagram
is Jose Guapo.
386
00:14:53,026 --> 00:14:55,593
Okay, so they already
did some good research.
387
00:14:55,662 --> 00:14:58,062
"Thank you so much
for helping us, Myldred."
388
00:14:58,131 --> 00:14:59,898
I want to look
at his Instagram.
389
00:14:59,966 --> 00:15:01,266
I'm curious to see.
390
00:15:01,334 --> 00:15:02,834
- Well, let's see how
convincing...
391
00:15:02,903 --> 00:15:05,303
- Oh, wow, he posted
a picture of India.
392
00:15:05,372 --> 00:15:08,439
Wow, okay,
so a month ago he posted this,
393
00:15:08,508 --> 00:15:10,041
and said
"can't nobody take her spot,
394
00:15:10,110 --> 00:15:11,743
"I love her to death,
she's my life,
395
00:15:11,811 --> 00:15:13,311
"my world, my whole life.
396
00:15:13,380 --> 00:15:14,913
"She's everything that I have
and need
397
00:15:14,981 --> 00:15:16,781
and she know the rest."
398
00:15:16,850 --> 00:15:19,050
- This is bold.
- Yeah.
399
00:15:19,119 --> 00:15:22,487
But we know
that this is someone else.
400
00:15:22,555 --> 00:15:24,689
- When was the last time
he posted a picture of Jose?
401
00:15:24,758 --> 00:15:25,990
That middle one.
402
00:15:26,059 --> 00:15:28,326
- This one?
- Mm-hmm, oh, last year.
403
00:15:28,395 --> 00:15:32,830
- Right, because they
sent us the real guy.
404
00:15:32,899 --> 00:15:37,602
Oh, yeah, he's verified,
half a million followers.
405
00:15:37,671 --> 00:15:42,106
Right, so here's the real guy.
406
00:15:42,175 --> 00:15:45,076
Okay, let's run
the phone number.
407
00:15:45,145 --> 00:15:49,447
See if maybe
we can get lucky.
408
00:15:49,516 --> 00:15:51,115
What?
409
00:15:51,184 --> 00:15:53,251
Darius [bleep]
410
00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,021
This guy is in Mississippi.
Who's this guy?
411
00:15:57,090 --> 00:15:59,290
Let's look him up on Facebook.
412
00:15:59,359 --> 00:16:00,758
Darius.
413
00:16:00,827 --> 00:16:03,594
[tense music]
414
00:16:03,663 --> 00:16:05,396
We got a hit.
415
00:16:05,465 --> 00:16:08,833
♪ ♪
416
00:16:08,902 --> 00:16:11,336
- What?
- He's 18.
417
00:16:11,404 --> 00:16:13,304
- He's a child.
418
00:16:13,373 --> 00:16:16,975
- Wait, let's look at About.
Mississippi though.
419
00:16:17,043 --> 00:16:19,277
Just like the guy
in the phone search results.
420
00:16:19,346 --> 00:16:21,412
Okay, let's just look
at some other profiles.
421
00:16:21,481 --> 00:16:23,748
- I think that second one
is the same Darius.
422
00:16:23,817 --> 00:16:25,583
- That's what I was thinking.
423
00:16:25,652 --> 00:16:27,919
It's the same guy.
424
00:16:27,988 --> 00:16:31,422
- Darius.
- Are there more accounts?
425
00:16:31,491 --> 00:16:34,659
- There's a few.
- Oh, my God.
426
00:16:34,728 --> 00:16:38,262
Here's another one
and another one.
427
00:16:38,331 --> 00:16:40,698
Why does this guy
have so many Facebook pages?
428
00:16:42,469 --> 00:16:43,501
- Sixteen times?
429
00:16:43,570 --> 00:16:45,536
- Why am I making
excuses for him?
430
00:16:45,605 --> 00:16:47,505
I'm just like
Myldred and India.
431
00:16:47,574 --> 00:16:48,973
- Two, maybe three.
432
00:16:49,042 --> 00:16:51,509
This kid has some
weird obsession
433
00:16:51,578 --> 00:16:52,877
with making profiles,
434
00:16:52,946 --> 00:16:54,846
which obviously suggests
that he very well
435
00:16:54,914 --> 00:16:57,215
could also be making
other profiles.
436
00:16:57,283 --> 00:16:59,717
The location matches
the phone results,
437
00:16:59,786 --> 00:17:02,086
so maybe he lied
to these girls about his age.
438
00:17:02,155 --> 00:17:03,788
So I think it's safe to say
439
00:17:03,857 --> 00:17:05,790
Darius is now our top suspect.
440
00:17:05,859 --> 00:17:07,725
- What are we going to say
to this young man?
441
00:17:07,794 --> 00:17:10,194
- Wait a second,
if he's 18 now,
442
00:17:10,263 --> 00:17:12,663
and Myldred and he started
talking six years ago,
443
00:17:12,732 --> 00:17:14,298
that would've made him 12.
444
00:17:14,367 --> 00:17:18,236
The only thing we haven't
looked at is running the number
445
00:17:18,304 --> 00:17:21,339
on Cash App to see if anything
comes up in Cash App.
446
00:17:21,408 --> 00:17:22,974
- Darius [bleep]!
447
00:17:23,043 --> 00:17:24,942
- Get in here.
- That's him.
448
00:17:25,011 --> 00:17:27,178
Okay, I mean, there's
no more confirmation we need.
449
00:17:27,247 --> 00:17:29,013
The phone number
comes back to him.
450
00:17:29,082 --> 00:17:31,382
There's a bunch
of weird profiles of him.
451
00:17:31,451 --> 00:17:32,784
We've put his number
into a Cash App.
452
00:17:32,852 --> 00:17:33,985
His name comes up.
453
00:17:34,054 --> 00:17:36,354
It's him.
They've been talking to a kid.
454
00:17:36,423 --> 00:17:39,157
The really remarkable thing
here is that this teenager
455
00:17:39,225 --> 00:17:41,826
was able to convince
these older women
456
00:17:41,895 --> 00:17:45,063
in intimate conversation
that he was older.
457
00:17:45,131 --> 00:17:47,832
- But his actions have been
so juvenile
458
00:17:47,901 --> 00:17:49,734
that it makes sense
that he is a juvenile.
459
00:17:49,803 --> 00:17:51,135
- Yeah.
460
00:17:51,204 --> 00:17:53,204
- I'm just trying to put myself
in the shoes
461
00:17:53,273 --> 00:17:57,075
of Myldred and India
finding out this information
462
00:17:57,143 --> 00:18:01,446
because if I know I got played
by an infant, no, no.
463
00:18:01,514 --> 00:18:03,147
- If he has that many profiles
for himself,
464
00:18:03,216 --> 00:18:04,649
I can't even begin to imagine
465
00:18:04,717 --> 00:18:06,384
how many profiles he has
of other people.
466
00:18:06,453 --> 00:18:07,952
- How can we stop Darius?
467
00:18:08,021 --> 00:18:09,887
- I feel like
we've just scratched the tip
468
00:18:09,956 --> 00:18:11,989
of the Darius iceberg.
469
00:18:13,460 --> 00:18:15,560
- All right, 9:45.
470
00:18:15,628 --> 00:18:17,462
Kamie's on her way over here.
471
00:18:17,530 --> 00:18:18,496
We're gonna drive
to the office today,
472
00:18:18,565 --> 00:18:20,164
so it'll be nice.
473
00:18:20,233 --> 00:18:23,134
Kamie'll come over, and then
I guess we'll drive my car.
474
00:18:23,203 --> 00:18:25,203
I thought it would be funny
to mess with her,
475
00:18:25,271 --> 00:18:30,608
so I put together just
a little care package for her,
476
00:18:30,677 --> 00:18:33,444
just a little
fake dirty diaper.
477
00:18:33,513 --> 00:18:36,514
Let's just kind of create
a little zone here.
478
00:18:36,583 --> 00:18:39,550
Perfect.
She's gonna love it.
479
00:18:39,619 --> 00:18:41,919
She's gonna
absolutely love it.
480
00:18:41,988 --> 00:18:43,754
- Yay.
481
00:18:43,823 --> 00:18:45,957
For baby cute-cute.
482
00:18:46,025 --> 00:18:50,795
This is just the beginning
of my work in my nomination
483
00:18:50,864 --> 00:18:53,598
of becoming god-mom
to baby cute-cute,
484
00:18:53,666 --> 00:18:55,133
AKA baby Schulman.
485
00:18:55,201 --> 00:18:57,435
Special delivery.
486
00:18:57,504 --> 00:19:02,140
♪ Happy baby to you ♪
- Hey!
487
00:19:02,208 --> 00:19:05,877
- Aw, you really did it.
- It's a diaper cake.
488
00:19:05,945 --> 00:19:07,278
Here let me get some stuff.
489
00:19:07,347 --> 00:19:08,946
- Some reading materials.
- I know.
490
00:19:09,015 --> 00:19:10,181
Well, there's a lot
of stuff in the car.
491
00:19:10,250 --> 00:19:11,516
Just move that stuff.
492
00:19:11,584 --> 00:19:14,452
- Oh--ahh!
You mother[bleep]!
493
00:19:14,521 --> 00:19:17,622
You are disgusting.
494
00:19:17,690 --> 00:19:19,624
What is that?
- Just move it!
495
00:19:19,692 --> 00:19:20,958
That's a dirty diaper.
Get used to it.
496
00:19:21,027 --> 00:19:23,060
I mean, that's not a big deal.
- It's on my fingernail.
497
00:19:23,129 --> 00:19:24,462
It's on my fingernail.
- Here.
498
00:19:24,531 --> 00:19:26,130
- It's on my [bleep]
fingernail.
499
00:19:26,199 --> 00:19:28,666
- You are the nastiest person
I have ever met in my life.
500
00:19:28,735 --> 00:19:30,134
Is it peanut butter?
- Just move it.
501
00:19:30,203 --> 00:19:32,370
Come on.
- Oh, my God, I hate it here.
502
00:19:32,438 --> 00:19:33,804
I'm quitting.
That's it.
503
00:19:33,873 --> 00:19:35,273
- Look at this, look at us.
We're in the car.
504
00:19:35,341 --> 00:19:36,574
- Look at us.
505
00:19:36,643 --> 00:19:38,209
- Driving.
- Who would've thought?
506
00:19:38,278 --> 00:19:39,877
- All right. So wait,
a lot happened yesterday.
507
00:19:39,946 --> 00:19:41,312
- Yeah, a lot happened.
508
00:19:41,381 --> 00:19:43,648
- KJ, turns out is probably
509
00:19:43,716 --> 00:19:45,883
an 18-year-old kid
named Darius.
510
00:19:45,952 --> 00:19:48,920
- I've been thinking also
like this entire morning,
511
00:19:48,988 --> 00:19:52,089
how we're going
to break this news
512
00:19:52,158 --> 00:19:55,626
because I think
that India and Myldred
513
00:19:55,695 --> 00:19:56,928
both thought there was like,
514
00:19:56,996 --> 00:20:00,531
at least a chance
with an adult.
515
00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,068
- Right.
- Ay-yi-yi.
516
00:20:04,137 --> 00:20:06,537
- All right,
we're at the office.
517
00:20:06,606 --> 00:20:08,172
You ready to crack this case?
518
00:20:08,241 --> 00:20:10,508
[upbeat music]
519
00:20:10,577 --> 00:20:12,276
Okay.
520
00:20:12,345 --> 00:20:13,578
- Ready.
521
00:20:13,646 --> 00:20:15,112
- Let's check in
with the girls.
522
00:20:15,181 --> 00:20:17,148
Hey, Myldred and India.
It's Nev and Kamie.
523
00:20:17,217 --> 00:20:20,318
We are in the Zoom
and ready to...
524
00:20:20,386 --> 00:20:24,388
- Roll.
- Rock.
525
00:20:24,457 --> 00:20:26,624
All right, come on, ladies.
526
00:20:26,693 --> 00:20:29,594
We've got a lot
of explaining to do.
527
00:20:29,662 --> 00:20:31,229
♪ ♪
528
00:20:31,297 --> 00:20:33,331
- Wow.
- Hello.
529
00:20:33,399 --> 00:20:36,567
- Hi.
- Oh.
530
00:20:36,636 --> 00:20:39,036
- Wow, I should've
brought in...
531
00:20:39,105 --> 00:20:40,738
all I did was bring in a bun.
532
00:20:40,807 --> 00:20:42,907
I should've brought
in a [bleep]ing look.
533
00:20:42,976 --> 00:20:45,176
- All right.
So here's what's up.
534
00:20:45,245 --> 00:20:48,145
We're pretty sure we know who
you guys have been talking to,
535
00:20:48,214 --> 00:20:53,951
and it's an unexpected,
sort of strange reality.
536
00:20:54,020 --> 00:20:57,154
- You're scaring me.
- For real.
537
00:20:57,223 --> 00:21:00,825
- Yeah, well, I mean,
I don't want to scare you,
538
00:21:00,893 --> 00:21:04,862
but we've got something
we think you should know.
539
00:21:04,931 --> 00:21:06,797
So hold on, let bring up...
540
00:21:06,866 --> 00:21:08,566
- Oh, my God.
- Oh, my God.
541
00:21:08,635 --> 00:21:09,967
My heart is beating so fast.
542
00:21:10,036 --> 00:21:12,837
- Yeah, same.
- All right, here we go.
543
00:21:12,905 --> 00:21:14,472
[tense music]
544
00:21:14,540 --> 00:21:19,343
Okay, so this is
KJ's current profile.
545
00:21:19,412 --> 00:21:20,811
India, I'm sure you noticed
546
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,114
that he more recently
posted a picture of you.
547
00:21:23,182 --> 00:21:26,317
- Yeah.
- Did you guys talk about that?
548
00:21:26,386 --> 00:21:28,119
- So when we posted it,
we were still talking
549
00:21:28,187 --> 00:21:30,154
like everything was fine,
so I knew he posted it,
550
00:21:30,223 --> 00:21:32,456
but I didn't know
it was still up there.
551
00:21:32,525 --> 00:21:35,660
- Right, so we already know
552
00:21:35,728 --> 00:21:39,263
that the guy in these pictures
is Jose Guapo.
553
00:21:39,332 --> 00:21:41,332
You guys figured that out.
554
00:21:41,401 --> 00:21:43,534
Which was nice for us,
you saved us a step.
555
00:21:43,603 --> 00:21:46,937
So we thought, okay,
let's run the phone number.
556
00:21:47,006 --> 00:21:48,939
It came back to this name,
557
00:21:49,008 --> 00:21:52,109
Darius [bleep]
in Brookhaven, Mississippi.
558
00:21:52,178 --> 00:21:53,611
So we thought, okay, we've got
to figure out who this guy is.
559
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,313
Who is this person?
560
00:21:55,381 --> 00:21:59,550
So we did some searching,
and the name Darius [bleep] is
561
00:21:59,619 --> 00:22:03,321
sort of--it's unique enough
that when we searched it...
562
00:22:03,389 --> 00:22:04,689
you're not gonna believe this.
563
00:22:04,757 --> 00:22:08,492
We found I think
16 profiles...
564
00:22:08,561 --> 00:22:11,329
- Wow.
- For the same guy.
565
00:22:11,397 --> 00:22:14,498
Versions of the same life,
mostly in Mississippi.
566
00:22:14,567 --> 00:22:16,100
- Oh, my God.
567
00:22:16,169 --> 00:22:18,569
- We clicked on a few of them,
and this one was the one
568
00:22:18,638 --> 00:22:21,005
that sort of seemed
to be the most active.
569
00:22:21,074 --> 00:22:23,007
So this is Darius [bleep],
570
00:22:23,076 --> 00:22:27,144
and his name,
and apparently this page,
571
00:22:27,213 --> 00:22:29,180
comes back connected
to the phone number
572
00:22:29,248 --> 00:22:31,215
you guys have been texting
and talking to.
573
00:22:31,284 --> 00:22:33,584
- Darius [bleep] is
18 years old,
574
00:22:33,653 --> 00:22:35,152
fresh out of high school.
575
00:22:35,221 --> 00:22:36,821
- ♪ Got the blood
on your hands ♪
576
00:22:36,889 --> 00:22:38,289
♪ Got a knife in my heart ♪
577
00:22:38,358 --> 00:22:40,191
- Oh, my God.
578
00:22:40,259 --> 00:22:41,592
♪ ♪
579
00:22:41,661 --> 00:22:43,561
- So he's 18 right now?
580
00:22:43,629 --> 00:22:45,596
- He is 18 right now.
581
00:22:45,665 --> 00:22:48,332
- Oh, no!
582
00:22:48,401 --> 00:22:51,602
- ♪ My lips are sealed,
I'ma take it to the grave ♪
583
00:22:51,671 --> 00:22:53,437
- Oh, my God.
584
00:22:53,506 --> 00:22:56,674
- ♪ I've got
a dirty little secret ♪
585
00:22:56,743 --> 00:22:59,243
- Which means that, Myldred,
586
00:22:59,312 --> 00:23:01,045
when you were 16
talking to him,
587
00:23:01,114 --> 00:23:03,013
he was 12.
588
00:23:03,082 --> 00:23:05,149
- Wow.
589
00:23:05,218 --> 00:23:09,687
- ♪ Dirty little secret, shh,
don't tell anyone ♪
590
00:23:09,756 --> 00:23:11,288
- I'm just in shock mode
right now.
591
00:23:11,357 --> 00:23:14,658
I'm trying to put everything
together in my head.
592
00:23:14,727 --> 00:23:18,329
- Yeah.
- I'm shaking.
593
00:23:18,398 --> 00:23:22,032
- This [bleep]'s crazy, bro,
ugh!
594
00:23:23,803 --> 00:23:25,035
- You guys are talking
to Darius [bleep].
595
00:23:25,104 --> 00:23:29,540
Darius is 18 years old,
fresh out of high school.
596
00:23:29,609 --> 00:23:32,009
- I feel, like, horrible.
Oh, my God.
597
00:23:32,078 --> 00:23:33,878
[tense music]
598
00:23:33,946 --> 00:23:37,415
- So that's your man, ladies.
We found him.
599
00:23:37,483 --> 00:23:39,250
- Not mine.
600
00:23:39,318 --> 00:23:42,019
- Myldred's trying to be all
cool like, "It's not my man."
601
00:23:42,088 --> 00:23:45,790
It was for five years.
Now he's not, now he's not.
602
00:23:45,858 --> 00:23:47,458
Look, there's still
a very small chance
603
00:23:47,527 --> 00:23:49,260
that we're wrong about this,
604
00:23:49,328 --> 00:23:52,663
but assuming that it is Darius,
we've got to confront this kid.
605
00:23:52,732 --> 00:23:55,800
A, because you guys
deserve to meet this person
606
00:23:55,868 --> 00:23:57,368
who you've been talking to,
607
00:23:57,437 --> 00:23:59,103
and say whatever
you want to say,
608
00:23:59,172 --> 00:24:01,305
but also because we need
to hopefully discourage him
609
00:24:01,374 --> 00:24:03,207
from doing this anymore.
610
00:24:03,276 --> 00:24:06,243
For both your sake
and potentially the dozens
611
00:24:06,312 --> 00:24:08,913
or hundreds of other girls
this guy might be talking to.
612
00:24:08,981 --> 00:24:11,816
So who's in,
and what's the plan?
613
00:24:11,884 --> 00:24:14,685
- I want to meet him.
- I mean, I'll do it, too.
614
00:24:14,754 --> 00:24:16,987
I'm down, but I'm just nervous.
615
00:24:17,056 --> 00:24:18,823
- Me too.
616
00:24:18,891 --> 00:24:21,025
- Do we need permission
from his parents?
617
00:24:21,093 --> 00:24:23,994
- I guess not, right?
If he's 18.
618
00:24:24,063 --> 00:24:25,362
All right,
I'm getting his number here,
619
00:24:25,431 --> 00:24:28,899
the phone number that KJ
has been using this whole time.
620
00:24:28,968 --> 00:24:32,303
Let's call him.
All right, I'm calling him.
621
00:24:32,371 --> 00:24:36,740
[line trilling]
622
00:24:37,777 --> 00:24:41,178
- Hey, is this Darius?
623
00:24:41,247 --> 00:24:42,780
[tense music]
624
00:24:42,849 --> 00:24:44,548
- Hey, how you doing?
625
00:24:44,617 --> 00:24:47,985
This is Nev
from the show "Catfish."
626
00:24:48,054 --> 00:24:50,187
I was hoping you had
a minute to chat.
627
00:24:51,524 --> 00:24:53,624
- Cool, how's it going?
628
00:24:53,693 --> 00:24:55,459
- It's all good.
629
00:24:55,528 --> 00:24:58,028
- Are you--I understand...
630
00:24:58,097 --> 00:24:59,763
I think you're down
in Mississippi, right?
631
00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:03,601
- Okay, well look,
I'm glad you picked up,
632
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:06,337
because we're making
an episode now,
633
00:25:06,405 --> 00:25:10,207
and I've got a couple ladies
who I've been helping,
634
00:25:10,276 --> 00:25:15,279
Myldred and India, who have
been mixed up in a relationship
635
00:25:15,348 --> 00:25:17,014
with someone named KJ,
636
00:25:17,083 --> 00:25:20,718
and, well,
we're pretty sure you are KJ.
637
00:25:22,288 --> 00:25:28,058
- Okay, well, are you able
to jump on a Zoom with us?
638
00:25:33,366 --> 00:25:35,666
- Oh, well, we've talked
to India and Myldred,
639
00:25:35,735 --> 00:25:37,701
and they're both happy
to talk to you.
640
00:25:37,770 --> 00:25:40,471
Is that okay if
they're both on the call?
641
00:25:40,540 --> 00:25:42,973
Is now an okay time?
642
00:25:43,042 --> 00:25:44,508
Darius?
643
00:25:44,577 --> 00:25:46,010
- He hung up?
- Yeah.
644
00:25:46,078 --> 00:25:47,244
- Cool as a mother[bleep]ing
cucumber.
645
00:25:47,313 --> 00:25:49,280
- Why he said me?
646
00:25:49,348 --> 00:25:51,015
- He said I don't want to talk
to Myldred.
647
00:25:51,083 --> 00:25:52,449
I'll talk to India.
- Right!
648
00:25:52,518 --> 00:25:55,052
My insides is, like, boiling.
649
00:25:55,121 --> 00:25:57,288
- I can't believe he singled
you out like that though.
650
00:25:57,356 --> 00:26:00,157
He needs to know that he
can't [bleep] around like this.
651
00:26:00,226 --> 00:26:03,193
Like, if this is gonna be
his intro to dating,
652
00:26:03,262 --> 00:26:06,130
and, like, women,
this is not a good start.
653
00:26:06,198 --> 00:26:08,465
- Honestly, now I just
question everything.
654
00:26:08,534 --> 00:26:11,135
Like, was everything a lie?
655
00:26:11,203 --> 00:26:14,371
- Right, he earned your trust,
both of you guys,
656
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,108
by telling you things,
and potentially opening up
657
00:26:18,177 --> 00:26:20,010
about stuff
that may not have been true.
658
00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:22,212
I mean, I'm also curious
to know like,
659
00:26:22,281 --> 00:26:23,948
what's been going on
in his life?
660
00:26:24,016 --> 00:26:25,716
Why does he have
all those Facebook profiles?
661
00:26:25,785 --> 00:26:27,585
It's just a lot of questions.
662
00:26:27,653 --> 00:26:29,620
- I feel like he was trying
to live like an imaginary life.
663
00:26:29,689 --> 00:26:30,955
Like, he really, like--
- Mm-hmm.
664
00:26:31,023 --> 00:26:32,323
- Like, to take away
from his actual,
665
00:26:32,391 --> 00:26:34,024
like, I don't know
what he's going through,
666
00:26:34,093 --> 00:26:35,326
but maybe he's
going through something.
667
00:26:35,394 --> 00:26:38,462
- He gets very depressing,
like, a lot.
668
00:26:38,531 --> 00:26:41,198
- Like, the conversations
would get very dark?
669
00:26:41,267 --> 00:26:43,100
- Like, it was just like,
there were times
670
00:26:43,169 --> 00:26:45,502
when I would tell him
I'ma leave him,
671
00:26:45,571 --> 00:26:47,271
he would try to kill himself,
672
00:26:51,177 --> 00:26:53,377
- I don't know what he's
going through and if that's
673
00:26:53,446 --> 00:26:55,446
actually something
that he's dealing with,
674
00:26:55,514 --> 00:26:59,216
but if not, it's not something
that you joke about.
675
00:26:59,285 --> 00:27:00,818
- It's not at all.
676
00:27:00,886 --> 00:27:03,554
[phone dings]
- Oh.
677
00:27:03,623 --> 00:27:05,756
- Did he text you?
- Yes.
678
00:27:05,825 --> 00:27:08,192
- What did he say?
- What?
679
00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:11,762
"Hey, I'm not sure
about the show.
680
00:27:11,831 --> 00:27:13,430
I don't know about this."
681
00:27:13,499 --> 00:27:16,333
- Because he know
I'ma be on here, that's why.
682
00:27:16,402 --> 00:27:18,168
- Have you guys got
into a lot of fights?
683
00:27:18,237 --> 00:27:19,436
- A lot.
684
00:27:19,505 --> 00:27:21,538
- Well, yeah, because
every time he comes up
685
00:27:21,607 --> 00:27:23,741
with an excuse and postpones.
686
00:27:23,809 --> 00:27:25,843
Maybe you should text him
and just say,
687
00:27:25,911 --> 00:27:28,545
"Hey, I know we've been through
a lot, but, like,
688
00:27:28,614 --> 00:27:30,581
"I'm not trying to come at you.
689
00:27:30,650 --> 00:27:32,516
I just want to talk."
690
00:27:32,585 --> 00:27:34,852
- Okay.
691
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,522
- Oh, I see the dot.
- Share that screen.
692
00:27:38,591 --> 00:27:40,057
Yeah, there we go.
693
00:27:40,126 --> 00:27:42,760
Oh, "I just need a minute.
Give me time to think."
694
00:27:42,828 --> 00:27:44,828
- Whoo!
695
00:27:44,897 --> 00:27:48,432
[tense music]
696
00:27:48,501 --> 00:27:50,100
- Aww, wow.
697
00:27:50,169 --> 00:27:54,605
- Myldred.
Do you really mean that?
698
00:27:54,674 --> 00:27:57,241
- No.
- [laughs]
699
00:27:57,309 --> 00:27:58,709
I was about to say.
700
00:27:58,778 --> 00:28:00,444
Myldred knows how
to the play the game.
701
00:28:00,513 --> 00:28:03,814
- Oh, we got bubbles.
- Oh, [bleep]!
702
00:28:03,883 --> 00:28:04,782
- "That's what people
always say."
703
00:28:04,850 --> 00:28:06,083
- Oh, [bleep]!
704
00:28:06,152 --> 00:28:07,818
- "You mean it or you
just saying it?
705
00:28:07,887 --> 00:28:09,586
I don't know if you mean it."
706
00:28:09,655 --> 00:28:13,657
Wow, he read you.
- [laughs]
707
00:28:13,726 --> 00:28:16,960
I would say something like,
"Let's just close this chapter
708
00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:19,229
of our lives the right way."
709
00:28:19,298 --> 00:28:20,798
- Okay.
710
00:28:20,866 --> 00:28:25,069
♪ ♪
711
00:28:25,137 --> 00:28:27,071
- Aww, and send him
the Zoom link, too,
712
00:28:27,139 --> 00:28:30,974
just to put
a little pressure on him.
713
00:28:31,043 --> 00:28:35,646
- Oh, this is nerve--my heart
is beating so fast.
714
00:28:35,715 --> 00:28:37,047
- Darius needs to bring his ass
715
00:28:37,116 --> 00:28:38,749
to the principal's office
immediately.
716
00:28:38,818 --> 00:28:40,150
- Yeah.
717
00:28:40,219 --> 00:28:42,486
All right, so look--oh, oh.
718
00:28:42,555 --> 00:28:44,822
- Hey.
719
00:28:44,890 --> 00:28:46,924
- Hey, I'm very confus--what?
720
00:28:48,861 --> 00:28:52,496
- Ugh, this is nerve--my heart
is beating so fast.
721
00:28:52,565 --> 00:28:53,664
- Darius needs to bring his ass
722
00:28:53,733 --> 00:28:55,399
to the principal's office
immediately.
723
00:28:55,468 --> 00:28:59,103
- Yeah.
All right, so look--oh, oh.
724
00:28:59,171 --> 00:29:00,771
- Hey.
725
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,973
[tense music]
726
00:29:03,042 --> 00:29:05,776
- Hey, I'm very confus--what?
727
00:29:05,845 --> 00:29:07,711
- Wait.
728
00:29:07,780 --> 00:29:09,379
- Who is this?
729
00:29:09,448 --> 00:29:11,014
- Wait, you're not the guy
730
00:29:11,083 --> 00:29:14,084
we thought
we were going to talk to.
731
00:29:14,153 --> 00:29:16,086
- I'm confused.
732
00:29:16,155 --> 00:29:18,522
- Just to be clear,
you're Darius.
733
00:29:18,591 --> 00:29:20,090
- Yes, sir.
734
00:29:20,159 --> 00:29:21,825
- Wow.
735
00:29:21,894 --> 00:29:23,360
- And you're the one
that's been talking to both
736
00:29:23,429 --> 00:29:25,496
of the women here on the Zoom.
737
00:29:25,564 --> 00:29:26,630
- Yes.
738
00:29:26,699 --> 00:29:28,799
- Okay, so we want
to just clear this up
739
00:29:28,868 --> 00:29:30,200
because we're
a little confused.
740
00:29:30,269 --> 00:29:32,870
We're gonna show you
our screen.
741
00:29:32,938 --> 00:29:34,471
Are these your profiles?
742
00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:36,507
Do you know who that is?
743
00:29:36,575 --> 00:29:37,474
- No.
744
00:29:37,543 --> 00:29:39,676
- Okay, so there's just a kid
745
00:29:39,745 --> 00:29:41,111
named Darius [bleep]
who lives in Mississippi,
746
00:29:41,180 --> 00:29:44,381
who happens to have a weird
profiles, but that's not you.
747
00:29:44,450 --> 00:29:46,550
- Yes.
- Got it.
748
00:29:46,619 --> 00:29:48,318
Okay, because
that really got confused
749
00:29:48,387 --> 00:29:49,953
because when we looked
that name up,
750
00:29:50,022 --> 00:29:53,056
we found like 16 profiles
for this kid who's 18,
751
00:29:53,125 --> 00:29:54,691
so we were all wrong.
752
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,193
- Yeah.
753
00:29:56,262 --> 00:29:58,128
- Can you just give us a little
background information on you
754
00:29:58,197 --> 00:29:59,463
because we're--
755
00:29:59,532 --> 00:30:00,731
- Perplexed.
- Yeah.
756
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,769
- All right, my name's Darius,
and I'm 25.
757
00:30:05,838 --> 00:30:07,738
I stay in Mississippi.
758
00:30:07,807 --> 00:30:09,673
- Okay, so you are
in Mississippi.
759
00:30:09,742 --> 00:30:12,743
- What are you doing
in Mississippi, scamming?
760
00:30:12,812 --> 00:30:15,979
- No, I made that up.
- So you don't scam?
761
00:30:16,048 --> 00:30:17,381
- No.
762
00:30:17,449 --> 00:30:20,484
- And how long have you
had a fake profile?
763
00:30:20,553 --> 00:30:22,653
Was it before Myldred?
764
00:30:22,721 --> 00:30:26,356
- It was like, when I had
met her, around that time.
765
00:30:26,425 --> 00:30:30,561
- What made you start a profile
with somebody else's pictures?
766
00:30:30,629 --> 00:30:35,933
- Because, you know,
I felt kind of lonely,
767
00:30:36,001 --> 00:30:39,269
and I felt like
I needed people to talk to,
768
00:30:45,010 --> 00:30:47,110
- Okay, but what do you mean
a guy like you?
769
00:30:47,179 --> 00:30:48,445
What does that mean?
770
00:30:50,316 --> 00:30:51,882
- Mm-hmm.
771
00:30:51,951 --> 00:30:54,518
- Growing up, where I'm from,
when people see me,
772
00:30:54,587 --> 00:30:57,621
they don't see me
as a normal person.
773
00:30:57,690 --> 00:31:00,757
- So you've had bad experiences
with meeting people.
774
00:31:00,826 --> 00:31:02,559
- Yes.
775
00:31:02,628 --> 00:31:05,963
- And then you mentioned
that you lost a brother.
776
00:31:06,031 --> 00:31:09,366
- Yeah, I was very close.
That was, like, my best friend.
777
00:31:09,435 --> 00:31:11,735
- What happened?
- He got shot.
778
00:31:11,804 --> 00:31:13,837
[soft music]
779
00:31:13,906 --> 00:31:17,074
It was, like,
an accidental shooting,
780
00:31:17,142 --> 00:31:19,977
and I wanted more people
to talk to
781
00:31:20,045 --> 00:31:22,312
because I ain't have people
to talk to at the time.
782
00:31:22,381 --> 00:31:25,582
- Oh, man, that's tough.
- We're sorry.
783
00:31:25,651 --> 00:31:28,452
- Was anything that you told
Myldred or India
784
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,622
about KJ's life actually true
785
00:31:31,690 --> 00:31:34,491
and sort of part of your life?
786
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,694
- Not really, I made all
of that up basically.
787
00:31:37,763 --> 00:31:39,396
- And were you
ever hospitalized
788
00:31:39,465 --> 00:31:42,766
for attempted suicide?
789
00:31:42,835 --> 00:31:44,301
- No.
790
00:31:44,370 --> 00:31:46,837
- Wow.
791
00:31:46,906 --> 00:31:48,639
So why did you tell me
you was gonna kill yourself
792
00:31:48,707 --> 00:31:50,507
when I said
I was gonna leave you?
793
00:31:50,576 --> 00:31:54,144
- Because I felt like I wasn't
going to have nobody
794
00:31:54,213 --> 00:31:55,545
to talk to after that,
795
00:31:55,614 --> 00:31:57,714
so that's why I said that,
to keep you around.
796
00:31:57,783 --> 00:31:59,750
- But you were
talking to India.
797
00:31:59,818 --> 00:32:02,619
- And all these other girls.
That's my thing.
798
00:32:02,688 --> 00:32:06,056
- There were other girls
that you talked to, right?
799
00:32:06,125 --> 00:32:08,325
- No.
800
00:32:08,394 --> 00:32:10,127
- Didn't you come on here
to tell the truth?
801
00:32:10,195 --> 00:32:11,628
- I am.
802
00:32:11,697 --> 00:32:13,363
- What about the girls I saw
with my own eyes?
803
00:32:13,432 --> 00:32:14,598
You talk to multiple girls.
804
00:32:14,667 --> 00:32:16,667
Don't make it seem like
it's just us.
805
00:32:16,735 --> 00:32:18,936
- I mean, I was,
but it wasn't like--
806
00:32:19,004 --> 00:32:20,170
- Like, a lot.
807
00:32:20,239 --> 00:32:22,172
- Yeah, it wasn't like that.
- A lot.
808
00:32:22,241 --> 00:32:24,474
- Yeah.
- So yeah, no.
809
00:32:24,543 --> 00:32:29,079
- Wow, my heart is, like,
beating so fast right now.
810
00:32:29,148 --> 00:32:31,214
- I mean, look, here's
what's confusing to me.
811
00:32:31,283 --> 00:32:35,452
I've spoken to a lot of people
who have started a fake profile
812
00:32:35,521 --> 00:32:37,120
because they felt insecure
813
00:32:37,189 --> 00:32:39,089
or maybe they weren't happy
with the way they looked,
814
00:32:39,158 --> 00:32:41,491
any number of reasons,
of all of which are valid.
815
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,660
What's a little bit
more difficult for me here
816
00:32:43,729 --> 00:32:47,364
in this case is that you've
continued this relationship now
817
00:32:47,433 --> 00:32:48,432
with Myldred for a long time.
818
00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:49,967
It's been six years,
819
00:32:50,035 --> 00:32:52,769
and over the course
of that time she's discovered
820
00:32:52,838 --> 00:32:56,206
that you have lied to her
and tried to move on,
821
00:32:56,275 --> 00:33:01,078
but you've continued to lie
after those moments.
822
00:33:01,146 --> 00:33:04,014
You kept trying to cover it up
and keep the lie going,
823
00:33:04,083 --> 00:33:05,949
and manipulated her
into continuing to talk to you
824
00:33:06,018 --> 00:33:07,884
by telling her that
if she didn't,
825
00:33:07,953 --> 00:33:10,520
you would kill yourself.
826
00:33:10,589 --> 00:33:12,723
- I wasn't thinking,
to be honest,
827
00:33:12,791 --> 00:33:15,659
but I want to apologize
to both of them separately
828
00:33:15,728 --> 00:33:17,361
so they can get
where I'm coming from.
829
00:33:17,429 --> 00:33:19,796
- You mean privately?
- Yeah.
830
00:33:19,865 --> 00:33:21,932
- Okay, well, we can do that.
- Okay.
831
00:33:22,001 --> 00:33:23,533
- So, India,
will you just give us a minute?
832
00:33:23,602 --> 00:33:24,968
- Okay.
- Okay, yeah.
833
00:33:25,037 --> 00:33:28,538
We'll see you in a minute.
Is it all right if we stay?
834
00:33:28,607 --> 00:33:32,809
- Y'all can stay.
835
00:33:32,878 --> 00:33:35,812
I'm sorry for the things
that I did for you in the past.
836
00:33:35,881 --> 00:33:37,981
Like, I didn't mean to do it.
837
00:33:38,050 --> 00:33:41,852
I know I hurt you a lot,
but I really did like you.
838
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,353
I just hope
you have enough heart
839
00:33:43,422 --> 00:33:44,721
to forgive me as a person.
840
00:33:44,790 --> 00:33:47,724
Me and you could
just be friends and just talk
841
00:33:47,793 --> 00:33:49,826
and get to know each other
as the real me.
842
00:33:49,895 --> 00:33:52,763
Like, it don't gotta be
today or tomorrow,
843
00:33:52,831 --> 00:33:55,966
but I just want you
to forgive me.
844
00:33:56,035 --> 00:34:00,470
[tense music]
845
00:34:02,674 --> 00:34:05,509
- Myldred, do you have
a response now?
846
00:34:05,577 --> 00:34:10,547
- Honestly, it's just like,
it just hurts so bad right now
847
00:34:10,616 --> 00:34:13,350
because he did put me
through a lot.
848
00:34:13,419 --> 00:34:15,185
Like, I knew
he was catfishing me,
849
00:34:15,254 --> 00:34:18,422
but I always made him
feel comfortable enough
850
00:34:18,490 --> 00:34:20,724
to tell me who he really was.
851
00:34:20,793 --> 00:34:23,260
I just feel really betrayed.
852
00:34:23,328 --> 00:34:25,228
Every time you would tell me
"I'm gonna kill myself,
853
00:34:25,297 --> 00:34:27,998
I'm this, I'm that,"
I'm over here crying for you.
854
00:34:28,067 --> 00:34:31,201
You catfished me
for six years,
855
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:34,438
six, and keep coming back.
856
00:34:34,506 --> 00:34:36,840
- I didn't know how to bring
myself out at the time.
857
00:34:36,909 --> 00:34:38,341
It's like I wanted to tell you,
858
00:34:38,410 --> 00:34:39,342
but I didn't know how
to tell you.
859
00:34:39,411 --> 00:34:40,710
- No you didn't,
860
00:34:40,779 --> 00:34:42,379
because you're not telling me
because of India.
861
00:34:42,448 --> 00:34:44,147
You was never going to tell me.
862
00:34:44,216 --> 00:34:45,849
- It's not even just that.
863
00:34:45,918 --> 00:34:47,584
- You're just full
of bull[bleep].
864
00:34:47,653 --> 00:34:49,286
I don't even care.
865
00:34:49,354 --> 00:34:52,322
- Do you feel like you have a
stronger connection with India?
866
00:34:52,391 --> 00:34:54,624
- To be honest, yeah.
867
00:34:54,693 --> 00:34:58,028
- Okay, okay.
868
00:35:00,899 --> 00:35:03,333
Everything that he
ever told me was a lie,
869
00:35:03,402 --> 00:35:06,536
so there's no friendship there.
870
00:35:06,605 --> 00:35:09,940
- All right.
871
00:35:10,008 --> 00:35:14,311
Maybe we should bring in India?
872
00:35:14,379 --> 00:35:16,179
- Okay.
873
00:35:16,248 --> 00:35:17,714
- So, Myldred,
just hang out a little bit,
874
00:35:17,783 --> 00:35:19,850
and we'll ping you when
it's time to bring you back.
875
00:35:19,918 --> 00:35:22,119
- Okay.
- All right.
876
00:35:22,187 --> 00:35:28,792
♪ ♪
877
00:35:28,861 --> 00:35:32,195
- All right.
Thanks for waiting, India.
878
00:35:32,264 --> 00:35:34,264
- All right, India,
879
00:35:34,333 --> 00:35:37,300
I know me and you haven't known
each other for that long,
880
00:35:37,369 --> 00:35:40,837
but them past three months
really brought me out
881
00:35:40,906 --> 00:35:43,039
to be the person I am today.
882
00:35:43,108 --> 00:35:46,610
You had told me
that I can just be myself,
883
00:35:46,678 --> 00:35:47,978
that really kind of
touched my heart,
884
00:35:48,046 --> 00:35:49,613
because ain't nobody
never told me that
885
00:35:49,681 --> 00:35:51,114
for real, for real.
886
00:35:51,183 --> 00:35:53,984
You really made me
feel happy about myself,
887
00:35:54,052 --> 00:35:57,554
and I feel like me
and you have, like,
888
00:35:57,623 --> 00:36:00,490
a connection
that could never be broke.
889
00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:03,126
Like, I'ma stop all the lies.
890
00:36:03,195 --> 00:36:06,897
I'ma stop all the manipulative
things that I did.
891
00:36:06,965 --> 00:36:09,866
I really love you a lot,
more than as a friend.
892
00:36:09,935 --> 00:36:13,503
But it's up to you.
It's what you want.
893
00:36:13,572 --> 00:36:20,710
♪ ♪
894
00:36:24,183 --> 00:36:25,782
- I feel like me
and you have, like,
895
00:36:25,851 --> 00:36:29,452
a connection
that can never be broke,
896
00:36:29,521 --> 00:36:32,389
but it's what you want.
897
00:36:32,457 --> 00:36:36,326
- So, like...
898
00:36:36,395 --> 00:36:39,896
I'm glad that I guess
I helped you, in a way,
899
00:36:39,965 --> 00:36:44,935
to bring yourself out and,
like, show the real you,
900
00:36:45,003 --> 00:36:48,939
but at the same time,
relationship-wise,
901
00:36:49,007 --> 00:36:51,608
I just wouldn't be able
to talk to you to be honest.
902
00:36:51,677 --> 00:36:54,244
And it has nothing to do with
who you actually are,
903
00:36:54,313 --> 00:36:56,246
it has to do with the fact
that you lied so much about it,
904
00:36:56,315 --> 00:36:58,415
and who's to say
you're not gonna lie again
905
00:36:58,483 --> 00:37:00,383
about whatever else?
906
00:37:02,087 --> 00:37:03,720
I don't know what
you're telling other people.
907
00:37:03,789 --> 00:37:05,322
I don't know what you've done
908
00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:07,290
or how far you've went
with certain things,
909
00:37:07,359 --> 00:37:09,226
and I don't know how many other
girls you've done this to.
910
00:37:09,294 --> 00:37:11,027
Yeah, I take your feelings
into consideration, too,
911
00:37:11,096 --> 00:37:12,829
but what about mine,
what about Myldred's?
912
00:37:12,898 --> 00:37:14,998
What about all the other girls?
913
00:37:15,067 --> 00:37:16,499
You should be yourself.
914
00:37:16,568 --> 00:37:17,567
You're gonna find someone
915
00:37:17,636 --> 00:37:19,035
one day
who will make you happy,
916
00:37:19,104 --> 00:37:22,005
who will love you for you
and accept you for you.
917
00:37:22,074 --> 00:37:23,406
- There's no excuse.
918
00:37:23,475 --> 00:37:24,674
You want to meet a woman,
919
00:37:24,743 --> 00:37:26,309
you want a woman
to spend time on you
920
00:37:26,378 --> 00:37:29,279
and love you for who you are,
show up as yourself
921
00:37:29,348 --> 00:37:31,114
and give her
the opportunity to do that,
922
00:37:31,183 --> 00:37:35,485
but you don't lie,
and manipulate, and hurt
923
00:37:35,554 --> 00:37:37,287
to get what you want.
924
00:37:37,356 --> 00:37:40,090
♪ ♪
925
00:37:40,158 --> 00:37:43,693
- Can you accept that things
between you and India are over?
926
00:37:43,762 --> 00:37:45,362
- I just know
I [bleep]ed up a lot.
927
00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:47,864
It's not gonna go back
to the old days,
928
00:37:47,933 --> 00:37:49,566
like the old ways.
929
00:37:49,635 --> 00:37:50,834
I don't want to accept it,
930
00:37:50,902 --> 00:37:53,603
but I'ma have to
accept it pretty much.
931
00:37:53,672 --> 00:37:57,274
♪ ♪
932
00:37:57,342 --> 00:37:59,442
- All right, well, why don't
we bring Myldred back in.
933
00:37:59,511 --> 00:38:02,579
♪ ♪
934
00:38:02,648 --> 00:38:04,414
- Welcome back, Myldred.
- All right.
935
00:38:04,483 --> 00:38:08,051
So considering what you've sort
of done and why we're all here,
936
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,588
I think both India and Myldred
have been very generous
937
00:38:11,657 --> 00:38:14,124
and compassionate towards you,
938
00:38:14,192 --> 00:38:17,961
expressing how they feel
in a very calm and mature way,
939
00:38:18,030 --> 00:38:21,364
and I hope that what they've
said and what we've said
940
00:38:21,433 --> 00:38:24,267
has meant something to you,
and that you've heard it,
941
00:38:24,336 --> 00:38:27,637
and hopefully will
consider it deeply,
942
00:38:27,706 --> 00:38:31,441
and allow it to inform your
decision making in the future.
943
00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:33,743
I think specifically,
we'd all like to know
944
00:38:33,812 --> 00:38:37,614
that you're going to delete the
Instagram page and the TikTok,
945
00:38:37,683 --> 00:38:42,118
or whatever other profiles
you may have that are not you.
946
00:38:42,187 --> 00:38:44,654
- Yes.
- You will delete those?
947
00:38:44,723 --> 00:38:46,423
- Yes.
948
00:38:46,491 --> 00:38:48,258
- And just moving forward,
with anybody that you meet,
949
00:38:48,327 --> 00:38:50,527
in person or online,
you'll just be honest?
950
00:38:50,595 --> 00:38:52,295
- Yes.
951
00:38:52,364 --> 00:38:56,433
- Because truly, there are
a lot of people who are little
952
00:38:56,501 --> 00:39:01,304
who live very full and bold,
authentic lives.
953
00:39:01,373 --> 00:39:04,240
While we have every reason
to have compassion for you
954
00:39:04,309 --> 00:39:06,910
and understanding,
that is not an excuse--
955
00:39:06,978 --> 00:39:08,445
- Mm-mm, not at all.
956
00:39:08,513 --> 00:39:10,513
- To do any of the things
that you have done.
957
00:39:10,582 --> 00:39:13,083
♪ ♪
958
00:39:13,151 --> 00:39:17,120
- I think that you should try
to focus on yourself
959
00:39:17,189 --> 00:39:19,089
before you continue
to go online
960
00:39:19,157 --> 00:39:21,191
and search for other women
who are going to love you.
961
00:39:21,259 --> 00:39:22,692
If you don't love yourself
and you're not happy
962
00:39:22,761 --> 00:39:24,861
within yourself, you're not
going to find it in any girls.
963
00:39:24,930 --> 00:39:26,830
- Not at all.
964
00:39:26,898 --> 00:39:29,432
♪ ♪
965
00:39:29,501 --> 00:39:32,168
- All right, well, I appreciate
that you came on here.
966
00:39:32,237 --> 00:39:34,604
I know that wasn't easy to do.
967
00:39:34,673 --> 00:39:36,473
- To the both of you,
968
00:39:36,541 --> 00:39:39,275
I really am sorry for
everything I put y'all through.
969
00:39:39,344 --> 00:39:40,777
- I hope so.
970
00:39:40,846 --> 00:39:42,545
- Thank you.
971
00:39:42,614 --> 00:39:44,414
- All right, good to meet you.
Good luck with everything.
972
00:39:44,483 --> 00:39:45,648
- Bye.
973
00:39:45,717 --> 00:39:46,783
- Bye.
- Good luck, Darius.
974
00:39:46,852 --> 00:39:49,519
See you later.
- Bye.
975
00:39:49,588 --> 00:39:52,322
- Ladies, ladies, ladies.
976
00:39:52,391 --> 00:39:54,624
- I mean, I can't believe
how wrong we were.
977
00:39:54,693 --> 00:39:57,861
- Wow, that was wrong wrong.
978
00:39:57,929 --> 00:40:00,196
- When he popped up
I was so confused.
979
00:40:00,265 --> 00:40:02,999
- Me too.
- Oh, my gosh, for real.
980
00:40:03,068 --> 00:40:04,434
- I want to applaud both of you
981
00:40:04,503 --> 00:40:09,339
for being so clear
and honest with your feelings.
982
00:40:09,408 --> 00:40:12,642
- I think we can hopefully
expect much better from him,
983
00:40:12,711 --> 00:40:14,911
but it has been lovely
spending time with both of you.
984
00:40:14,980 --> 00:40:16,446
- Thank you.
985
00:40:16,515 --> 00:40:18,114
- Thank you.
It was nice to meet you both.
986
00:40:18,183 --> 00:40:21,851
- Good to meet you girls.
- Bye, ladies.
987
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,153
- Bye!
- Bye.
988
00:40:23,221 --> 00:40:24,020
- Bye.
989
00:40:24,089 --> 00:40:28,858
- ♪ Oh ♪
990
00:40:28,927 --> 00:40:30,927
♪ It's time to let go ♪
991
00:40:30,996 --> 00:40:35,832
♪ Oh ♪
992
00:40:35,901 --> 00:40:38,368
♪ It's time to let go ♪
993
00:40:38,437 --> 00:40:41,638
♪ I'm gonna feed the fire ♪
994
00:40:41,706 --> 00:40:44,641
♪ Watching all the flames
go higher ♪
995
00:40:44,709 --> 00:40:49,179
♪ Oh ♪
996
00:40:49,247 --> 00:40:52,282
♪ It's time to let go ♪
997
00:40:55,854 --> 00:40:57,554
- Trace, single mom meets Ace.
[upbeat mu
998
00:40:57,622 --> 00:40:59,456
- He's like, "I'm ready
to be a stepfather.
999
00:40:59,524 --> 00:41:00,757
I want to have children."
1000
00:41:00,826 --> 00:41:02,959
So that's why I wanted
to see what's going on.
1001
00:41:03,028 --> 00:41:05,462
- Searching his number.
1002
00:41:05,530 --> 00:41:06,696
- Pacific pay phone?
1003
00:41:06,765 --> 00:41:08,031
- There's a map.
1004
00:41:08,099 --> 00:41:09,599
We're actually not
that far from there.
1005
00:41:09,668 --> 00:41:10,733
Here it is, okay.
1006
00:41:10,802 --> 00:41:11,835
- Ready for the stakeout.
1007
00:41:11,903 --> 00:41:13,069
- There's someone.
1008
00:41:13,138 --> 00:41:14,504
This could be our guy.