1 00:00:01,002 --> 00:00:02,968 - ♪ MTV ♪ 2 00:00:03,037 --> 00:00:05,404 - Myldred met KJ when she was 16. 3 00:00:05,473 --> 00:00:07,339 Then this girl India sees Myldred 4 00:00:07,408 --> 00:00:08,841 commenting on KJ's pictures. 5 00:00:08,909 --> 00:00:10,776 They discover that they're both in the same boat. 6 00:00:10,845 --> 00:00:12,578 - He told me he was a scammer. 7 00:00:12,646 --> 00:00:14,146 - Everything was pretty good until, like, 8 00:00:14,215 --> 00:00:15,881 all the lies started coming up. 9 00:00:15,950 --> 00:00:18,083 - Oh, my God, why does this guy have so many Facebook pages? 10 00:00:18,152 --> 00:00:19,551 - What? 11 00:00:19,620 --> 00:00:22,187 - I've seen multiple girls hit up and text him. 12 00:00:22,256 --> 00:00:24,356 - If this is the last thing we do, 13 00:00:24,425 --> 00:00:26,892 we're gonna catch a serial catfish. 14 00:00:26,961 --> 00:00:28,761 Oh, oh. 15 00:00:28,829 --> 00:00:30,562 - Hey. 16 00:00:30,631 --> 00:00:33,665 - Hey, I'm very confus--what? 17 00:00:33,734 --> 00:00:35,501 [dramatic music] 18 00:00:35,569 --> 00:00:37,870 Let's do it! We're back. 19 00:00:37,938 --> 00:00:40,572 This episode was supposed to be 20 00:00:40,641 --> 00:00:44,143 our first episode fully back on the road. 21 00:00:44,211 --> 00:00:46,712 Unfortunately, because of the delta variant 22 00:00:46,781 --> 00:00:49,014 we are going to film at the office again, 23 00:00:49,083 --> 00:00:51,917 which means we're still in masks. 24 00:00:51,986 --> 00:00:53,752 Hello. - I'm not happy. 25 00:00:53,821 --> 00:00:55,220 We're supposed to be on the road. 26 00:00:55,289 --> 00:00:56,889 We're supposed to be out, living life. 27 00:00:56,957 --> 00:00:59,892 Get [bleep] vaccinated so we can leave this bitch. 28 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:01,260 [laughs] 29 00:01:01,328 --> 00:01:03,429 - All right, here we go. - This is gonna be great. 30 00:01:03,497 --> 00:01:07,166 We're changing the energy, shifting it around, whoo! 31 00:01:07,234 --> 00:01:10,436 - Ooh, an email from Myldred. 32 00:01:10,504 --> 00:01:13,539 "It's time for the truth. 33 00:01:13,607 --> 00:01:17,509 "Dear Nev and Kamie, my name is Myldred. 34 00:01:17,578 --> 00:01:19,745 "I'm 23 and I live in South Carolina, 35 00:01:19,814 --> 00:01:24,049 and I think you guys are my last best hope." 36 00:01:24,118 --> 00:01:26,685 - That sounds very dark. 37 00:01:26,754 --> 00:01:30,622 - "Six years ago, I was catfished by a guy named KJ. 38 00:01:30,691 --> 00:01:33,492 "KJ had a good heart, and he has been there for me 39 00:01:33,561 --> 00:01:35,360 "during the times that I've needed him, 40 00:01:35,429 --> 00:01:36,929 "but he lied a lot. 41 00:01:36,997 --> 00:01:41,066 "He actually admitted that his pictures weren't real, 42 00:01:41,135 --> 00:01:42,468 "so I broke things off with him. 43 00:01:42,536 --> 00:01:46,805 "He disappeared for two years, but this past January, 44 00:01:46,874 --> 00:01:49,374 we started talking regularly again." 45 00:01:49,443 --> 00:01:51,410 - ♪ When the lights go down ♪ 46 00:01:51,479 --> 00:01:54,046 - "He was saying he loved me and getting upset 47 00:01:54,115 --> 00:01:56,682 "when I wouldn't say it back. 48 00:01:56,750 --> 00:01:58,951 But I knew I couldn't trust him." 49 00:01:59,019 --> 00:02:01,887 - ♪ On and on and on and on and on ♪ 50 00:02:01,956 --> 00:02:02,955 - "But then in June, 51 00:02:03,023 --> 00:02:05,757 "I got a message from this girl named India 52 00:02:05,826 --> 00:02:07,292 "because she was trying to figure out 53 00:02:07,361 --> 00:02:08,961 "if KJ was a catfish. 54 00:02:09,029 --> 00:02:11,763 "India and I started working together to try to figure out 55 00:02:11,832 --> 00:02:13,732 "who exactly we'd been talking to. 56 00:02:13,801 --> 00:02:15,567 "I'm not interested in dating KJ, 57 00:02:15,636 --> 00:02:17,136 "but he is important to me, 58 00:02:17,204 --> 00:02:21,106 "and I've come too close to finding the truth to stop now. 59 00:02:21,175 --> 00:02:23,542 "I know India and I aren't the only girls 60 00:02:23,611 --> 00:02:26,478 "he's done this to over the years. 61 00:02:26,547 --> 00:02:29,548 Do you want to help us catch a serial catfish?" 62 00:02:29,617 --> 00:02:33,252 - ♪ On and on and on ♪ 63 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,987 - So this is unusual. 64 00:02:35,055 --> 00:02:38,390 We might actually be helping two people find this KJ guy. 65 00:02:38,459 --> 00:02:40,125 - We already know KJ's a catfish. 66 00:02:40,194 --> 00:02:41,593 He said it. - Right. 67 00:02:41,662 --> 00:02:43,929 What I want to know is when he popped back up, 68 00:02:43,998 --> 00:02:46,031 did he present who he actually is? 69 00:02:46,100 --> 00:02:49,168 - Who knows how many other girls KJ has done this to. 70 00:02:49,236 --> 00:02:50,536 - That's true. 71 00:02:50,604 --> 00:02:53,639 Myldred gave us her info and India's info. 72 00:02:53,707 --> 00:02:57,809 Let's just FaceTime Myldred first. 73 00:02:57,878 --> 00:02:58,944 Hello? 74 00:02:59,013 --> 00:03:00,646 - Oh, my God. 75 00:03:00,714 --> 00:03:02,948 - Hey! - Is this Myldred? 76 00:03:04,185 --> 00:03:06,084 Sorry we're FaceTiming you with no appointment. 77 00:03:06,153 --> 00:03:07,586 It was Nev's idea. 78 00:03:07,655 --> 00:03:09,188 - I'm just in shock mode. 79 00:03:09,256 --> 00:03:10,689 - Connection here's a little funny. 80 00:03:10,758 --> 00:03:12,724 Do you mind if we maybe switch over to Zoom? 81 00:03:12,793 --> 00:03:14,026 We can send you a link, and you can-- 82 00:03:14,094 --> 00:03:16,295 - Yeah, we can do that. - All right, perfect. 83 00:03:16,363 --> 00:03:18,664 - Okay, see you. - Bye! 84 00:03:18,732 --> 00:03:20,899 - All right. I'm gonna message her. 85 00:03:20,968 --> 00:03:22,501 I sent Myldred the link to our Zoom. 86 00:03:22,570 --> 00:03:24,136 - Let's hit up India, too. - Yeah. 87 00:03:24,205 --> 00:03:29,508 Let me text India and see if she's around to chat as well. 88 00:03:29,577 --> 00:03:32,311 - How did India find Myldred in the first place? 89 00:03:32,379 --> 00:03:34,513 - That's a good question. 90 00:03:34,582 --> 00:03:36,248 - Hello? - Myldred. 91 00:03:36,317 --> 00:03:38,217 - Hey! - What's up? 92 00:03:38,285 --> 00:03:39,685 - Nothing much. 93 00:03:39,753 --> 00:03:41,486 - So you're 23 now. - Yes. 94 00:03:41,555 --> 00:03:42,721 - And you live in South Carolina. 95 00:03:42,790 --> 00:03:44,356 What do you do down there? 96 00:03:44,425 --> 00:03:46,658 - I'm about to open my own store. 97 00:03:46,727 --> 00:03:48,427 It's like a clothing... 98 00:03:48,495 --> 00:03:50,195 we have everything in there really. 99 00:03:50,264 --> 00:03:51,363 - Fun. 100 00:03:51,432 --> 00:03:53,999 - A Little lifestyle brand action. 101 00:03:55,369 --> 00:03:57,236 - Well, we're still trying to make sense of the story. 102 00:03:57,304 --> 00:03:59,171 - We got a lot of questions. Right. 103 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,373 We reached out to India, too. 104 00:04:01,442 --> 00:04:02,674 Hopefully, she'll join us 105 00:04:02,743 --> 00:04:04,176 to help fill us in on all of this, 106 00:04:04,245 --> 00:04:05,644 but elaborate a bit more 107 00:04:05,713 --> 00:04:08,013 what's been going on the last six years. 108 00:04:08,082 --> 00:04:12,084 - Well, we met when he slid into my DM, 109 00:04:12,152 --> 00:04:15,254 but then I ended up finding out that wasn't him. 110 00:04:15,322 --> 00:04:16,955 - He has since changed his photos? 111 00:04:18,092 --> 00:04:19,658 - All right. So wait, we'll get to that. 112 00:04:19,727 --> 00:04:21,593 So what happened after he slid into your DMs? 113 00:04:21,662 --> 00:04:24,529 - Then we started talking on Kik, 114 00:04:24,598 --> 00:04:27,399 and that's where we started dating really. 115 00:04:27,468 --> 00:04:30,102 - And you're 23 now, so you were 17? 116 00:04:30,170 --> 00:04:31,270 - I was 16. 117 00:04:31,338 --> 00:04:33,071 - And how old was KJ? 118 00:04:33,140 --> 00:04:36,174 - He told me he was 16 at the time also. 119 00:04:36,243 --> 00:04:37,542 - Where did he say he lives? 120 00:04:37,611 --> 00:04:38,877 - At the time, he told me 121 00:04:38,946 --> 00:04:41,346 he was living in North Carolina. 122 00:04:41,415 --> 00:04:45,083 - So he's close? - Yeah, he was really close. 123 00:04:45,152 --> 00:04:48,053 - All right, walk us through what went down. 124 00:04:48,122 --> 00:04:51,323 - Well, everything was good between us at the time, 125 00:04:51,392 --> 00:04:55,294 and then around the end of 2016, 126 00:04:55,362 --> 00:04:57,663 it was just, like, a lot of problems. 127 00:04:57,731 --> 00:05:00,399 It was always excuses, not wanting to see me. 128 00:05:00,467 --> 00:05:04,569 He couldn't come. His car broke, mommy issues. 129 00:05:04,638 --> 00:05:08,407 And then I tried to video call him back around 130 00:05:08,475 --> 00:05:10,542 when we first started dating. 131 00:05:10,611 --> 00:05:13,078 I didn't really get to see, like, his face. 132 00:05:13,147 --> 00:05:15,480 I only saw his back. So I was like, okay. 133 00:05:15,549 --> 00:05:17,015 - Hold on, wait. 134 00:05:17,084 --> 00:05:20,118 So you did FaceTime with him, but you only saw his back? 135 00:05:20,187 --> 00:05:22,487 - Yeah. - That's so [bleep]ing weird. 136 00:05:22,556 --> 00:05:24,556 If I answered a video call, and I saw the back 137 00:05:24,625 --> 00:05:27,659 of somebody's head like that, I would call the police. 138 00:05:27,728 --> 00:05:29,761 How long did that call last? 139 00:05:29,830 --> 00:05:32,464 - Ten minutes. - And you heard their voice? 140 00:05:32,533 --> 00:05:34,433 - I didn't really hear the voice. 141 00:05:34,501 --> 00:05:37,135 I only saw the back of his head. 142 00:05:37,204 --> 00:05:39,438 - But they were talking to you, right? 143 00:05:39,506 --> 00:05:41,506 - No, it was on mute. - What? 144 00:05:41,575 --> 00:05:44,843 You spent ten minutes talking to the back of someone's head? 145 00:05:44,912 --> 00:05:46,978 - Pretty much. 146 00:05:47,047 --> 00:05:49,147 - That's very strange. 147 00:05:49,216 --> 00:05:51,983 - So then at some point, you say you discovered 148 00:05:52,052 --> 00:05:53,752 that the pictures he sent you weren't him. 149 00:05:53,821 --> 00:05:55,153 When did that happen? 150 00:05:55,222 --> 00:05:59,591 - I think, 2018, I had a friend that was a model, 151 00:05:59,660 --> 00:06:01,993 and I was going through his followers, 152 00:06:02,062 --> 00:06:04,663 and I ended up seeing somebody with pictures of KJ. 153 00:06:04,732 --> 00:06:06,832 So I DM'd him, "Hey KJ," 154 00:06:06,900 --> 00:06:09,067 and he was like "Wrong person, I don't know you." 155 00:06:10,404 --> 00:06:12,938 - I'm assuming you sent a screenshot of that to KJ. 156 00:06:13,006 --> 00:06:16,174 - Yeah, I confronted him about it, and he told me 157 00:06:16,243 --> 00:06:18,910 he felt like my parents wouldn't approve of him 158 00:06:18,979 --> 00:06:21,346 because he had all the tattoos on his face. 159 00:06:21,415 --> 00:06:23,982 He ended up sending me another picture. 160 00:06:24,051 --> 00:06:26,752 - Of the new tattoo guy? - Yes. 161 00:06:26,820 --> 00:06:28,587 And then eventually, I realized 162 00:06:28,655 --> 00:06:30,789 it's always gonna be the same story. 163 00:06:30,858 --> 00:06:32,591 He's never gonna come see me, 164 00:06:32,659 --> 00:06:36,128 so I just cut it off then and there. 165 00:06:36,196 --> 00:06:39,464 - All right, so let's fast forward to present day. 166 00:06:39,533 --> 00:06:41,066 You mentioned in your email 167 00:06:41,135 --> 00:06:43,402 that you and KJ started talking again in January. 168 00:06:43,470 --> 00:06:44,803 - Mm-hmm. 169 00:06:44,872 --> 00:06:47,105 - Are you feeling as though things are moving 170 00:06:47,174 --> 00:06:49,107 potentially toward a relationship again? 171 00:06:49,176 --> 00:06:53,812 - At the time yeah, but then around May, it was my birthday. 172 00:06:53,881 --> 00:06:55,580 He was supposed to come see me, 173 00:06:55,649 --> 00:06:58,350 but then he told me that he couldn't come see me anymore 174 00:06:58,419 --> 00:07:00,719 because the cops were following him. 175 00:07:00,788 --> 00:07:03,789 So I eventually got mad, and I told him 176 00:07:03,857 --> 00:07:06,091 that I was having a guy friend over. 177 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,961 And he got mad, and then he ended up telling me 178 00:07:10,030 --> 00:07:11,596 that he's in a relationship with India, 179 00:07:11,665 --> 00:07:13,865 and he also had a child. 180 00:07:13,934 --> 00:07:19,271 He ended up showing me pictures of India and the baby. 181 00:07:19,339 --> 00:07:23,241 India, thank God, messaged me two weeks later, 182 00:07:23,310 --> 00:07:25,777 and she was like, "Hey, have you met KJ?" 183 00:07:25,846 --> 00:07:28,113 And I was like, "Huh, aren't you his baby mama?" 184 00:07:28,182 --> 00:07:30,482 She was like, "No, we just started talking." 185 00:07:30,551 --> 00:07:31,716 - What? 186 00:07:31,785 --> 00:07:33,251 She was confused why 187 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,854 he was even sending me those type of pictures. 188 00:07:35,923 --> 00:07:38,089 - Hold up, wait. Can we go back for a second? 189 00:07:38,158 --> 00:07:40,826 The cops were following him for what? 190 00:07:40,894 --> 00:07:45,464 - He told me he was a scammer. - A scammer? 191 00:07:45,532 --> 00:07:48,733 - Yeah. - This guy sounds insane. 192 00:07:48,802 --> 00:07:50,135 - This sounds crazy. 193 00:07:50,204 --> 00:07:51,703 - He's never asked you for money, right? 194 00:07:51,772 --> 00:07:53,638 - No. - That's something. 195 00:07:53,707 --> 00:07:55,640 But why do we like him? 196 00:07:55,709 --> 00:07:57,876 - It was after my last relationship, 197 00:07:57,945 --> 00:08:00,479 it was just really, really bad for me, 198 00:08:00,547 --> 00:08:03,648 and he was there to talk me out of it. 199 00:08:03,717 --> 00:08:05,884 KJ was basically my first love. 200 00:08:05,953 --> 00:08:10,322 He's very funny, very caring, and a good listener. 201 00:08:10,390 --> 00:08:15,594 He was just my everything, I thought he was my soul mate. 202 00:08:15,662 --> 00:08:17,529 - Whoa, wait. India just wrote back to us. 203 00:08:17,598 --> 00:08:19,431 She said "Oh, my God, really?" 204 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:20,699 - Okay. - Cool. 205 00:08:20,767 --> 00:08:24,069 - "Yes! Come join our Zoom!" 206 00:08:24,137 --> 00:08:26,238 And you've let India know that you reached out to us, right? 207 00:08:26,306 --> 00:08:28,573 And that you're hoping we can help you guys? 208 00:08:28,642 --> 00:08:30,475 - Yes, I told her about it. 209 00:08:30,544 --> 00:08:32,143 - And over this time, 210 00:08:32,212 --> 00:08:34,846 were other women popping up that he had been talking to? 211 00:08:34,915 --> 00:08:36,014 - A lot. 212 00:08:36,083 --> 00:08:37,415 - Were they just posting on his page? 213 00:08:37,484 --> 00:08:38,783 - Yeah. 214 00:08:38,852 --> 00:08:40,652 - Interesting. 215 00:08:40,721 --> 00:08:43,455 - India, hello! - Hey! 216 00:08:43,524 --> 00:08:46,358 - How are you guys? - Hi. 217 00:08:46,426 --> 00:08:50,328 - I see that KJ has a thing for pretty girls with lashes. 218 00:08:50,397 --> 00:08:52,664 I mean, wow. 219 00:08:52,733 --> 00:08:54,299 - So wait a second, so India, 220 00:08:54,368 --> 00:08:56,401 obviously you and Myldred already know each other. 221 00:08:56,470 --> 00:08:57,802 - Mm-hmm. 222 00:08:57,871 --> 00:08:59,638 - Can you just explain how you and KJ met 223 00:08:59,706 --> 00:09:01,439 and what your relationship is? 224 00:09:01,508 --> 00:09:04,109 - Well, we met on Instagram. 225 00:09:04,177 --> 00:09:05,510 I got a text on Instagram like, 226 00:09:05,579 --> 00:09:08,113 "Oh, hey, you're pretty." And I'm like, "Oh, thank you." 227 00:09:08,181 --> 00:09:09,981 And then we started talking on the phone. 228 00:09:10,050 --> 00:09:12,884 We really got a good connection after a while. 229 00:09:12,953 --> 00:09:14,486 We'd be on the phone from the morning to the night. 230 00:09:14,555 --> 00:09:15,720 We'd sleep on the phone. 231 00:09:15,789 --> 00:09:17,489 - Wow. - We talked a lot. 232 00:09:17,558 --> 00:09:19,357 We got really close. 233 00:09:19,426 --> 00:09:20,625 Everything was pretty good 234 00:09:20,694 --> 00:09:22,127 until, like, all the lies started coming up. 235 00:09:22,195 --> 00:09:23,395 - Mm-hmm! 236 00:09:23,463 --> 00:09:25,430 - How did you find Myldred in the first place? 237 00:09:25,499 --> 00:09:28,300 - So we were supposed to be dating, and he told me 238 00:09:28,368 --> 00:09:30,035 he wasn't talking to no other girls, 239 00:09:30,103 --> 00:09:32,737 but I didn't believe him, so I started looking through, 240 00:09:32,806 --> 00:09:34,839 like, his followers, and I found Myldred. 241 00:09:34,908 --> 00:09:36,308 I was like, "Hey, do you know who KJ is?" 242 00:09:36,376 --> 00:09:37,742 And she was like, "Yeah, I've talked to him." 243 00:09:37,811 --> 00:09:39,010 And then she's like, 244 00:09:39,079 --> 00:09:40,512 "Oh, I thought you were his baby mama." 245 00:09:40,581 --> 00:09:41,613 And I was like, "No, I'm not his baby mama. 246 00:09:41,682 --> 00:09:43,114 I don't even have a baby." 247 00:09:43,183 --> 00:09:45,250 - All of this is weird. - It is. 248 00:09:45,319 --> 00:09:46,685 - Really weird. 249 00:09:46,753 --> 00:09:48,486 - And are you still interested in him? 250 00:09:48,555 --> 00:09:49,754 Are you guys still talking? 251 00:09:49,823 --> 00:09:51,356 Well, I still talk to him. 252 00:09:51,425 --> 00:09:53,325 If he is who he is in the second picture, 253 00:09:53,393 --> 00:09:54,526 then I'd still want to talk to him. 254 00:09:54,595 --> 00:09:55,660 He's a good person. 255 00:09:55,729 --> 00:09:57,162 But at the same time if he's not, 256 00:09:57,230 --> 00:09:58,563 then, you know. 257 00:09:58,632 --> 00:10:00,098 - Wait, you said second picture. 258 00:10:00,167 --> 00:10:01,399 Did he show you someone first, and then he said, 259 00:10:01,468 --> 00:10:03,068 "Oh, no, that's not me. I'm someone else"? 260 00:10:03,136 --> 00:10:05,203 - Yeah, we started looking at the pictures closely, 261 00:10:05,272 --> 00:10:06,705 like, trying to figure out little things, 262 00:10:06,773 --> 00:10:09,874 and I see on his stomach, his stomach said "guapo," 263 00:10:09,943 --> 00:10:12,611 so then that's when I found the actual guy in the picture, 264 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,381 Jose Guapo, the rapper, and I was like, oh. 265 00:10:16,450 --> 00:10:18,350 - Who is Jose Guapo? 266 00:10:19,586 --> 00:10:21,019 that you mentioned - with the face tattoos?y 267 00:10:21,088 --> 00:10:22,187 - Yeah. 268 00:10:22,255 --> 00:10:24,356 - So now I'm like, "KJ, did you catfish me?" 269 00:10:24,424 --> 00:10:26,958 And he's like, "Yeah, hold on. I'll send you pictures." 270 00:10:27,027 --> 00:10:28,860 So I'm waiting. He finally sends me a picture. 271 00:10:28,929 --> 00:10:30,695 It's another handsome man, 272 00:10:30,764 --> 00:10:32,664 but I just feel like it's another lie. 273 00:10:32,733 --> 00:10:33,865 - Yeah. 274 00:10:33,934 --> 00:10:36,067 - [blows raspberry] - [laughs] 275 00:10:36,136 --> 00:10:37,702 - All right, just so we get this all down, 276 00:10:37,771 --> 00:10:38,903 starting with you, Myldred. 277 00:10:38,972 --> 00:10:40,472 Can you-- - Yeah. 278 00:10:40,540 --> 00:10:42,707 - You guys the pictures that you thought were of KJ? 279 00:10:42,776 --> 00:10:43,975 - Yeah. 280 00:10:44,044 --> 00:10:46,945 Okay, that's the old one, 281 00:10:47,014 --> 00:10:49,180 the very first one that he showed me, 282 00:10:49,249 --> 00:10:52,751 and that's the one he told me that was him. 283 00:10:52,819 --> 00:10:54,953 - So he's got a few tattoos on his face. 284 00:10:55,022 --> 00:10:56,688 - And you've seen this picture, India? 285 00:10:56,757 --> 00:10:59,124 - Yeah, that's Jose Guapo. - Got it. 286 00:10:59,192 --> 00:11:02,227 - India, can you show us the new picture? 287 00:11:02,295 --> 00:11:05,196 - That's my KJ. - Okay. 288 00:11:05,265 --> 00:11:08,199 - Chile, you can have him. She said, "That's my KJ." 289 00:11:08,268 --> 00:11:11,069 Why the [bleep] are we still talking to this man? 290 00:11:11,138 --> 00:11:12,637 - I don't know, I just feel like times 291 00:11:12,706 --> 00:11:14,339 we did talk, everything went well. 292 00:11:14,408 --> 00:11:16,174 He was there for me when I needed him. 293 00:11:16,243 --> 00:11:18,209 He's very kind, he's sweet, he's funny. 294 00:11:18,278 --> 00:11:21,012 If he can come clean and, like, tell me the truth, 295 00:11:21,081 --> 00:11:23,148 like who he is and why he did all this or whatever, 296 00:11:23,216 --> 00:11:25,383 then I feel like there could be something there. 297 00:11:25,452 --> 00:11:28,787 - Okay, and Myldred, you're not trying to date KJ. 298 00:11:28,855 --> 00:11:30,321 - I just want to ask him 299 00:11:30,390 --> 00:11:33,224 why did he catfish me for six years. 300 00:11:33,293 --> 00:11:35,760 - So you basically want to confront him. 301 00:11:35,829 --> 00:11:37,429 - Mm-hmm. 302 00:11:37,497 --> 00:11:38,697 - Me too. 303 00:11:38,765 --> 00:11:40,231 - All right. So we need to find this guy. 304 00:11:40,300 --> 00:11:42,734 So what do you know about KJ? 305 00:11:42,803 --> 00:11:44,102 Myldred, where did he say he lived 306 00:11:44,171 --> 00:11:45,203 when you were talking to him? 307 00:11:45,272 --> 00:11:47,305 - Back then, he said North Carolina. 308 00:11:47,374 --> 00:11:48,673 - Okay, and, India, 309 00:11:48,742 --> 00:11:50,975 where did he say he lived when you talked to him? 310 00:11:51,044 --> 00:11:53,678 - Boston, and sometimes he said in Rochester. 311 00:11:53,747 --> 00:11:56,347 - Do you guys have the same phone number for KJ? 312 00:11:56,416 --> 00:11:57,716 - Yeah. - Mm-hmm. 313 00:11:57,784 --> 00:12:01,653 - Got it, and how old does he say he is to you, Myldred? 314 00:12:01,722 --> 00:12:03,655 - I think just turned 24. 315 00:12:03,724 --> 00:12:04,889 - Okay, and what about you, India? 316 00:12:04,958 --> 00:12:06,357 - He told me he was 21. 317 00:12:06,426 --> 00:12:07,892 - So we don't know how old he is. 318 00:12:07,961 --> 00:12:09,828 We don't really even necessarily know his name. 319 00:12:09,896 --> 00:12:11,529 We don't know where he lives. 320 00:12:11,598 --> 00:12:13,264 We don't know anything about this guy. 321 00:12:13,333 --> 00:12:15,366 - I just want him to take down that page, to be honest, 322 00:12:15,435 --> 00:12:18,436 because I've seen multiple girls hit up and text him, 323 00:12:18,505 --> 00:12:20,205 so I could just imagine of what I didn't see. 324 00:12:20,273 --> 00:12:21,706 Like, you know what I'm saying? 325 00:12:21,775 --> 00:12:23,108 Like, there's probably a lot of girls out there. 326 00:12:23,176 --> 00:12:24,809 - Yeah. - All right, guys. 327 00:12:24,878 --> 00:12:28,079 I'm excited to figure out what the heck is going on here, 328 00:12:28,148 --> 00:12:30,715 and hopefully confront a serial catfish, 329 00:12:30,784 --> 00:12:33,351 and put an end to this craziness. 330 00:12:33,420 --> 00:12:34,686 We'll talk soon. 331 00:12:34,755 --> 00:12:37,322 - Bye. - See ya. 332 00:12:37,390 --> 00:12:39,524 That is the craziest [bleep] I've ever heard. 333 00:12:39,593 --> 00:12:42,026 To send the pictures of India to Myldred. 334 00:12:42,095 --> 00:12:44,028 - And to say it's your baby mama, it's like-- 335 00:12:44,097 --> 00:12:45,296 - It's the audacity for me. 336 00:12:45,365 --> 00:12:47,232 - I mean, at this point I'm concerned 337 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:51,102 about the countless women that might be on the hook 338 00:12:51,171 --> 00:12:52,771 thinking they're in a relationship with this guy, 339 00:12:52,839 --> 00:12:54,272 and setting them free. 340 00:12:54,341 --> 00:12:57,442 So if this is the last thing we do, 341 00:12:57,511 --> 00:13:00,512 we're gonna find out the truth about KJ. 342 00:13:02,015 --> 00:13:03,348 - Biggie. He cannot be found. 343 00:13:03,416 --> 00:13:05,116 Biggie! 344 00:13:05,185 --> 00:13:08,953 - Well, we took a little break. We seem to have lost Biggie. 345 00:13:09,022 --> 00:13:11,256 But that doesn't mean we can't find KJ, so... 346 00:13:11,324 --> 00:13:14,025 - True, there's still hope yet. - There's still hope for today. 347 00:13:14,094 --> 00:13:15,894 - Oh, man. Where's my child though? 348 00:13:15,962 --> 00:13:18,530 Where did you go? Get in here. 349 00:13:18,598 --> 00:13:20,832 Biggie, you've been acting crazy all day. 350 00:13:20,901 --> 00:13:23,868 We're gonna talk about this when we get home. 351 00:13:23,937 --> 00:13:25,970 - All right. 352 00:13:26,039 --> 00:13:29,941 I'm gonna try my best to summarize the situation. 353 00:13:30,010 --> 00:13:34,279 Myldred met KJ via Instagram when she was 16. 354 00:13:34,347 --> 00:13:37,615 They started talking on Kik. Myldred was really into him. 355 00:13:37,684 --> 00:13:39,951 But excuse, after excuse, after excuse, 356 00:13:40,020 --> 00:13:42,120 things sort of started to fade a little bit. 357 00:13:42,189 --> 00:13:45,023 She figured out at some point that he was a catfish. 358 00:13:45,091 --> 00:13:46,224 Myldred decides, 359 00:13:46,293 --> 00:13:47,592 "Okay, I'm not gonna mess with this guy anymore." 360 00:13:47,661 --> 00:13:49,661 At some point, KJ pops up and says, 361 00:13:49,729 --> 00:13:51,529 "Hey, just so you know, this is my baby mama." 362 00:13:51,598 --> 00:13:52,997 - India. - India. 363 00:13:53,066 --> 00:13:55,133 India sees Myldred commenting on the pictures, 364 00:13:55,202 --> 00:13:57,001 reaches out to her, they talk, they discover 365 00:13:57,070 --> 00:14:00,171 that they're both in the same boat with KJ being sus. 366 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,873 - Cheating on both of them. - Lying to them. 367 00:14:01,942 --> 00:14:05,176 We've clearly got a guy here who's not only doing a poor job 368 00:14:05,245 --> 00:14:09,614 of convincing people that he's a real person, 369 00:14:09,683 --> 00:14:12,183 but he's also quick to admit when he's caught. 370 00:14:13,386 --> 00:14:16,421 - And then amazingly, just create a new lie 371 00:14:16,489 --> 00:14:19,591 and find that girls will continue talking to him. 372 00:14:19,659 --> 00:14:21,459 - Because he's there for them. - Right. 373 00:14:21,528 --> 00:14:24,762 - India in particular wants to end up with the real KJ 374 00:14:24,831 --> 00:14:27,532 at the end of this. 375 00:14:27,601 --> 00:14:30,268 - "Hey guys, here's everything - Let' we know about KJ."t us. 376 00:14:30,337 --> 00:14:32,670 KJ's number. Here's his Instagram. 377 00:14:32,739 --> 00:14:33,771 - "[bleep] the glock"? 378 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,907 - He told me that he was 24 379 00:14:35,976 --> 00:14:38,243 and that he's lived in North and South Carolina. 380 00:14:38,311 --> 00:14:40,979 He told India that he was 21 and that he lives in Boston. 381 00:14:41,047 --> 00:14:43,414 We have three photos, the original guy 382 00:14:43,483 --> 00:14:46,651 I found years ago on Instagram, the rapper Jose Guapo, 383 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,620 and then the new guy he gave to India 384 00:14:48,688 --> 00:14:50,288 that we haven't found a real page for. 385 00:14:50,357 --> 00:14:52,957 Jose Guapo's Instagram is Jose Guapo. 386 00:14:53,026 --> 00:14:55,593 Okay, so they already did some good research. 387 00:14:55,662 --> 00:14:58,062 "Thank you so much for helping us, Myldred." 388 00:14:58,131 --> 00:14:59,898 I want to look at his Instagram. 389 00:14:59,966 --> 00:15:01,266 I'm curious to see. 390 00:15:01,334 --> 00:15:02,834 - Well, let's see how convincing... 391 00:15:02,903 --> 00:15:05,303 - Oh, wow, he posted a picture of India. 392 00:15:05,372 --> 00:15:08,439 Wow, okay, so a month ago he posted this, 393 00:15:08,508 --> 00:15:10,041 and said "can't nobody take her spot, 394 00:15:10,110 --> 00:15:11,743 "I love her to death, she's my life, 395 00:15:11,811 --> 00:15:13,311 "my world, my whole life. 396 00:15:13,380 --> 00:15:14,913 "She's everything that I have and need 397 00:15:14,981 --> 00:15:16,781 and she know the rest." 398 00:15:16,850 --> 00:15:19,050 - This is bold. - Yeah. 399 00:15:19,119 --> 00:15:22,487 But we know that this is someone else. 400 00:15:22,555 --> 00:15:24,689 - When was the last time he posted a picture of Jose? 401 00:15:24,758 --> 00:15:25,990 That middle one. 402 00:15:26,059 --> 00:15:28,326 - This one? - Mm-hmm, oh, last year. 403 00:15:28,395 --> 00:15:32,830 - Right, because they sent us the real guy. 404 00:15:32,899 --> 00:15:37,602 Oh, yeah, he's verified, half a million followers. 405 00:15:37,671 --> 00:15:42,106 Right, so here's the real guy. 406 00:15:42,175 --> 00:15:45,076 Okay, let's run the phone number. 407 00:15:45,145 --> 00:15:49,447 See if maybe we can get lucky. 408 00:15:49,516 --> 00:15:51,115 What? 409 00:15:51,184 --> 00:15:53,251 Darius [bleep] 410 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,021 This guy is in Mississippi. Who's this guy? 411 00:15:57,090 --> 00:15:59,290 Let's look him up on Facebook. 412 00:15:59,359 --> 00:16:00,758 Darius. 413 00:16:00,827 --> 00:16:03,594 [tense music] 414 00:16:03,663 --> 00:16:05,396 We got a hit. 415 00:16:05,465 --> 00:16:08,833 ♪ ♪ 416 00:16:08,902 --> 00:16:11,336 - What? - He's 18. 417 00:16:11,404 --> 00:16:13,304 - He's a child. 418 00:16:13,373 --> 00:16:16,975 - Wait, let's look at About. Mississippi though. 419 00:16:17,043 --> 00:16:19,277 Just like the guy in the phone search results. 420 00:16:19,346 --> 00:16:21,412 Okay, let's just look at some other profiles. 421 00:16:21,481 --> 00:16:23,748 - I think that second one is the same Darius. 422 00:16:23,817 --> 00:16:25,583 - That's what I was thinking. 423 00:16:25,652 --> 00:16:27,919 It's the same guy. 424 00:16:27,988 --> 00:16:31,422 - Darius. - Are there more accounts? 425 00:16:31,491 --> 00:16:34,659 - There's a few. - Oh, my God. 426 00:16:34,728 --> 00:16:38,262 Here's another one and another one. 427 00:16:38,331 --> 00:16:40,698 Why does this guy have so many Facebook pages? 428 00:16:42,469 --> 00:16:43,501 - Sixteen times? 429 00:16:43,570 --> 00:16:45,536 - Why am I making excuses for him? 430 00:16:45,605 --> 00:16:47,505 I'm just like Myldred and India. 431 00:16:47,574 --> 00:16:48,973 - Two, maybe three. 432 00:16:49,042 --> 00:16:51,509 This kid has some weird obsession 433 00:16:51,578 --> 00:16:52,877 with making profiles, 434 00:16:52,946 --> 00:16:54,846 which obviously suggests that he very well 435 00:16:54,914 --> 00:16:57,215 could also be making other profiles. 436 00:16:57,283 --> 00:16:59,717 The location matches the phone results, 437 00:16:59,786 --> 00:17:02,086 so maybe he lied to these girls about his age. 438 00:17:02,155 --> 00:17:03,788 So I think it's safe to say 439 00:17:03,857 --> 00:17:05,790 Darius is now our top suspect. 440 00:17:05,859 --> 00:17:07,725 - What are we going to say to this young man? 441 00:17:07,794 --> 00:17:10,194 - Wait a second, if he's 18 now, 442 00:17:10,263 --> 00:17:12,663 and Myldred and he started talking six years ago, 443 00:17:12,732 --> 00:17:14,298 that would've made him 12. 444 00:17:14,367 --> 00:17:18,236 The only thing we haven't looked at is running the number 445 00:17:18,304 --> 00:17:21,339 on Cash App to see if anything comes up in Cash App. 446 00:17:21,408 --> 00:17:22,974 - Darius [bleep]! 447 00:17:23,043 --> 00:17:24,942 - Get in here. - That's him. 448 00:17:25,011 --> 00:17:27,178 Okay, I mean, there's no more confirmation we need. 449 00:17:27,247 --> 00:17:29,013 The phone number comes back to him. 450 00:17:29,082 --> 00:17:31,382 There's a bunch of weird profiles of him. 451 00:17:31,451 --> 00:17:32,784 We've put his number into a Cash App. 452 00:17:32,852 --> 00:17:33,985 His name comes up. 453 00:17:34,054 --> 00:17:36,354 It's him. They've been talking to a kid. 454 00:17:36,423 --> 00:17:39,157 The really remarkable thing here is that this teenager 455 00:17:39,225 --> 00:17:41,826 was able to convince these older women 456 00:17:41,895 --> 00:17:45,063 in intimate conversation that he was older. 457 00:17:45,131 --> 00:17:47,832 - But his actions have been so juvenile 458 00:17:47,901 --> 00:17:49,734 that it makes sense that he is a juvenile. 459 00:17:49,803 --> 00:17:51,135 - Yeah. 460 00:17:51,204 --> 00:17:53,204 - I'm just trying to put myself in the shoes 461 00:17:53,273 --> 00:17:57,075 of Myldred and India finding out this information 462 00:17:57,143 --> 00:18:01,446 because if I know I got played by an infant, no, no. 463 00:18:01,514 --> 00:18:03,147 - If he has that many profiles for himself, 464 00:18:03,216 --> 00:18:04,649 I can't even begin to imagine 465 00:18:04,717 --> 00:18:06,384 how many profiles he has of other people. 466 00:18:06,453 --> 00:18:07,952 - How can we stop Darius? 467 00:18:08,021 --> 00:18:09,887 - I feel like we've just scratched the tip 468 00:18:09,956 --> 00:18:11,989 of the Darius iceberg. 469 00:18:13,460 --> 00:18:15,560 - All right, 9:45. 470 00:18:15,628 --> 00:18:17,462 Kamie's on her way over here. 471 00:18:17,530 --> 00:18:18,496 We're gonna drive to the office today, 472 00:18:18,565 --> 00:18:20,164 so it'll be nice. 473 00:18:20,233 --> 00:18:23,134 Kamie'll come over, and then I guess we'll drive my car. 474 00:18:23,203 --> 00:18:25,203 I thought it would be funny to mess with her, 475 00:18:25,271 --> 00:18:30,608 so I put together just a little care package for her, 476 00:18:30,677 --> 00:18:33,444 just a little fake dirty diaper. 477 00:18:33,513 --> 00:18:36,514 Let's just kind of create a little zone here. 478 00:18:36,583 --> 00:18:39,550 Perfect. She's gonna love it. 479 00:18:39,619 --> 00:18:41,919 She's gonna absolutely love it. 480 00:18:41,988 --> 00:18:43,754 - Yay. 481 00:18:43,823 --> 00:18:45,957 For baby cute-cute. 482 00:18:46,025 --> 00:18:50,795 This is just the beginning of my work in my nomination 483 00:18:50,864 --> 00:18:53,598 of becoming god-mom to baby cute-cute, 484 00:18:53,666 --> 00:18:55,133 AKA baby Schulman. 485 00:18:55,201 --> 00:18:57,435 Special delivery. 486 00:18:57,504 --> 00:19:02,140 ♪ Happy baby to you ♪ - Hey! 487 00:19:02,208 --> 00:19:05,877 - Aw, you really did it. - It's a diaper cake. 488 00:19:05,945 --> 00:19:07,278 Here let me get some stuff. 489 00:19:07,347 --> 00:19:08,946 - Some reading materials. - I know. 490 00:19:09,015 --> 00:19:10,181 Well, there's a lot of stuff in the car. 491 00:19:10,250 --> 00:19:11,516 Just move that stuff. 492 00:19:11,584 --> 00:19:14,452 - Oh--ahh! You mother[bleep]! 493 00:19:14,521 --> 00:19:17,622 You are disgusting. 494 00:19:17,690 --> 00:19:19,624 What is that? - Just move it! 495 00:19:19,692 --> 00:19:20,958 That's a dirty diaper. Get used to it. 496 00:19:21,027 --> 00:19:23,060 I mean, that's not a big deal. - It's on my fingernail. 497 00:19:23,129 --> 00:19:24,462 It's on my fingernail. - Here. 498 00:19:24,531 --> 00:19:26,130 - It's on my [bleep] fingernail. 499 00:19:26,199 --> 00:19:28,666 - You are the nastiest person I have ever met in my life. 500 00:19:28,735 --> 00:19:30,134 Is it peanut butter? - Just move it. 501 00:19:30,203 --> 00:19:32,370 Come on. - Oh, my God, I hate it here. 502 00:19:32,438 --> 00:19:33,804 I'm quitting. That's it. 503 00:19:33,873 --> 00:19:35,273 - Look at this, look at us. We're in the car. 504 00:19:35,341 --> 00:19:36,574 - Look at us. 505 00:19:36,643 --> 00:19:38,209 - Driving. - Who would've thought? 506 00:19:38,278 --> 00:19:39,877 - All right. So wait, a lot happened yesterday. 507 00:19:39,946 --> 00:19:41,312 - Yeah, a lot happened. 508 00:19:41,381 --> 00:19:43,648 - KJ, turns out is probably 509 00:19:43,716 --> 00:19:45,883 an 18-year-old kid named Darius. 510 00:19:45,952 --> 00:19:48,920 - I've been thinking also like this entire morning, 511 00:19:48,988 --> 00:19:52,089 how we're going to break this news 512 00:19:52,158 --> 00:19:55,626 because I think that India and Myldred 513 00:19:55,695 --> 00:19:56,928 both thought there was like, 514 00:19:56,996 --> 00:20:00,531 at least a chance with an adult. 515 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,068 - Right. - Ay-yi-yi. 516 00:20:04,137 --> 00:20:06,537 - All right, we're at the office. 517 00:20:06,606 --> 00:20:08,172 You ready to crack this case? 518 00:20:08,241 --> 00:20:10,508 [upbeat music] 519 00:20:10,577 --> 00:20:12,276 Okay. 520 00:20:12,345 --> 00:20:13,578 - Ready. 521 00:20:13,646 --> 00:20:15,112 - Let's check in with the girls. 522 00:20:15,181 --> 00:20:17,148 Hey, Myldred and India. It's Nev and Kamie. 523 00:20:17,217 --> 00:20:20,318 We are in the Zoom and ready to... 524 00:20:20,386 --> 00:20:24,388 - Roll. - Rock. 525 00:20:24,457 --> 00:20:26,624 All right, come on, ladies. 526 00:20:26,693 --> 00:20:29,594 We've got a lot of explaining to do. 527 00:20:29,662 --> 00:20:31,229 ♪ ♪ 528 00:20:31,297 --> 00:20:33,331 - Wow. - Hello. 529 00:20:33,399 --> 00:20:36,567 - Hi. - Oh. 530 00:20:36,636 --> 00:20:39,036 - Wow, I should've brought in... 531 00:20:39,105 --> 00:20:40,738 all I did was bring in a bun. 532 00:20:40,807 --> 00:20:42,907 I should've brought in a [bleep]ing look. 533 00:20:42,976 --> 00:20:45,176 - All right. So here's what's up. 534 00:20:45,245 --> 00:20:48,145 We're pretty sure we know who you guys have been talking to, 535 00:20:48,214 --> 00:20:53,951 and it's an unexpected, sort of strange reality. 536 00:20:54,020 --> 00:20:57,154 - You're scaring me. - For real. 537 00:20:57,223 --> 00:21:00,825 - Yeah, well, I mean, I don't want to scare you, 538 00:21:00,893 --> 00:21:04,862 but we've got something we think you should know. 539 00:21:04,931 --> 00:21:06,797 So hold on, let bring up... 540 00:21:06,866 --> 00:21:08,566 - Oh, my God. - Oh, my God. 541 00:21:08,635 --> 00:21:09,967 My heart is beating so fast. 542 00:21:10,036 --> 00:21:12,837 - Yeah, same. - All right, here we go. 543 00:21:12,905 --> 00:21:14,472 [tense music] 544 00:21:14,540 --> 00:21:19,343 Okay, so this is KJ's current profile. 545 00:21:19,412 --> 00:21:20,811 India, I'm sure you noticed 546 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,114 that he more recently posted a picture of you. 547 00:21:23,182 --> 00:21:26,317 - Yeah. - Did you guys talk about that? 548 00:21:26,386 --> 00:21:28,119 - So when we posted it, we were still talking 549 00:21:28,187 --> 00:21:30,154 like everything was fine, so I knew he posted it, 550 00:21:30,223 --> 00:21:32,456 but I didn't know it was still up there. 551 00:21:32,525 --> 00:21:35,660 - Right, so we already know 552 00:21:35,728 --> 00:21:39,263 that the guy in these pictures is Jose Guapo. 553 00:21:39,332 --> 00:21:41,332 You guys figured that out. 554 00:21:41,401 --> 00:21:43,534 Which was nice for us, you saved us a step. 555 00:21:43,603 --> 00:21:46,937 So we thought, okay, let's run the phone number. 556 00:21:47,006 --> 00:21:48,939 It came back to this name, 557 00:21:49,008 --> 00:21:52,109 Darius [bleep] in Brookhaven, Mississippi. 558 00:21:52,178 --> 00:21:53,611 So we thought, okay, we've got to figure out who this guy is. 559 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,313 Who is this person? 560 00:21:55,381 --> 00:21:59,550 So we did some searching, and the name Darius [bleep] is 561 00:21:59,619 --> 00:22:03,321 sort of--it's unique enough that when we searched it... 562 00:22:03,389 --> 00:22:04,689 you're not gonna believe this. 563 00:22:04,757 --> 00:22:08,492 We found I think 16 profiles... 564 00:22:08,561 --> 00:22:11,329 - Wow. - For the same guy. 565 00:22:11,397 --> 00:22:14,498 Versions of the same life, mostly in Mississippi. 566 00:22:14,567 --> 00:22:16,100 - Oh, my God. 567 00:22:16,169 --> 00:22:18,569 - We clicked on a few of them, and this one was the one 568 00:22:18,638 --> 00:22:21,005 that sort of seemed to be the most active. 569 00:22:21,074 --> 00:22:23,007 So this is Darius [bleep], 570 00:22:23,076 --> 00:22:27,144 and his name, and apparently this page, 571 00:22:27,213 --> 00:22:29,180 comes back connected to the phone number 572 00:22:29,248 --> 00:22:31,215 you guys have been texting and talking to. 573 00:22:31,284 --> 00:22:33,584 - Darius [bleep] is 18 years old, 574 00:22:33,653 --> 00:22:35,152 fresh out of high school. 575 00:22:35,221 --> 00:22:36,821 - ♪ Got the blood on your hands ♪ 576 00:22:36,889 --> 00:22:38,289 ♪ Got a knife in my heart ♪ 577 00:22:38,358 --> 00:22:40,191 - Oh, my God. 578 00:22:40,259 --> 00:22:41,592 ♪ ♪ 579 00:22:41,661 --> 00:22:43,561 - So he's 18 right now? 580 00:22:43,629 --> 00:22:45,596 - He is 18 right now. 581 00:22:45,665 --> 00:22:48,332 - Oh, no! 582 00:22:48,401 --> 00:22:51,602 - ♪ My lips are sealed, I'ma take it to the grave ♪ 583 00:22:51,671 --> 00:22:53,437 - Oh, my God. 584 00:22:53,506 --> 00:22:56,674 - ♪ I've got a dirty little secret ♪ 585 00:22:56,743 --> 00:22:59,243 - Which means that, Myldred, 586 00:22:59,312 --> 00:23:01,045 when you were 16 talking to him, 587 00:23:01,114 --> 00:23:03,013 he was 12. 588 00:23:03,082 --> 00:23:05,149 - Wow. 589 00:23:05,218 --> 00:23:09,687 - ♪ Dirty little secret, shh, don't tell anyone ♪ 590 00:23:09,756 --> 00:23:11,288 - I'm just in shock mode right now. 591 00:23:11,357 --> 00:23:14,658 I'm trying to put everything together in my head. 592 00:23:14,727 --> 00:23:18,329 - Yeah. - I'm shaking. 593 00:23:18,398 --> 00:23:22,032 - This [bleep]'s crazy, bro, ugh! 594 00:23:23,803 --> 00:23:25,035 - You guys are talking to Darius [bleep]. 595 00:23:25,104 --> 00:23:29,540 Darius is 18 years old, fresh out of high school. 596 00:23:29,609 --> 00:23:32,009 - I feel, like, horrible. Oh, my God. 597 00:23:32,078 --> 00:23:33,878 [tense music] 598 00:23:33,946 --> 00:23:37,415 - So that's your man, ladies. We found him. 599 00:23:37,483 --> 00:23:39,250 - Not mine. 600 00:23:39,318 --> 00:23:42,019 - Myldred's trying to be all cool like, "It's not my man." 601 00:23:42,088 --> 00:23:45,790 It was for five years. Now he's not, now he's not. 602 00:23:45,858 --> 00:23:47,458 Look, there's still a very small chance 603 00:23:47,527 --> 00:23:49,260 that we're wrong about this, 604 00:23:49,328 --> 00:23:52,663 but assuming that it is Darius, we've got to confront this kid. 605 00:23:52,732 --> 00:23:55,800 A, because you guys deserve to meet this person 606 00:23:55,868 --> 00:23:57,368 who you've been talking to, 607 00:23:57,437 --> 00:23:59,103 and say whatever you want to say, 608 00:23:59,172 --> 00:24:01,305 but also because we need to hopefully discourage him 609 00:24:01,374 --> 00:24:03,207 from doing this anymore. 610 00:24:03,276 --> 00:24:06,243 For both your sake and potentially the dozens 611 00:24:06,312 --> 00:24:08,913 or hundreds of other girls this guy might be talking to. 612 00:24:08,981 --> 00:24:11,816 So who's in, and what's the plan? 613 00:24:11,884 --> 00:24:14,685 - I want to meet him. - I mean, I'll do it, too. 614 00:24:14,754 --> 00:24:16,987 I'm down, but I'm just nervous. 615 00:24:17,056 --> 00:24:18,823 - Me too. 616 00:24:18,891 --> 00:24:21,025 - Do we need permission from his parents? 617 00:24:21,093 --> 00:24:23,994 - I guess not, right? If he's 18. 618 00:24:24,063 --> 00:24:25,362 All right, I'm getting his number here, 619 00:24:25,431 --> 00:24:28,899 the phone number that KJ has been using this whole time. 620 00:24:28,968 --> 00:24:32,303 Let's call him. All right, I'm calling him. 621 00:24:32,371 --> 00:24:36,740 [line trilling] 622 00:24:37,777 --> 00:24:41,178 - Hey, is this Darius? 623 00:24:41,247 --> 00:24:42,780 [tense music] 624 00:24:42,849 --> 00:24:44,548 - Hey, how you doing? 625 00:24:44,617 --> 00:24:47,985 This is Nev from the show "Catfish." 626 00:24:48,054 --> 00:24:50,187 I was hoping you had a minute to chat. 627 00:24:51,524 --> 00:24:53,624 - Cool, how's it going? 628 00:24:53,693 --> 00:24:55,459 - It's all good. 629 00:24:55,528 --> 00:24:58,028 - Are you--I understand... 630 00:24:58,097 --> 00:24:59,763 I think you're down in Mississippi, right? 631 00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:03,601 - Okay, well look, I'm glad you picked up, 632 00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:06,337 because we're making an episode now, 633 00:25:06,405 --> 00:25:10,207 and I've got a couple ladies who I've been helping, 634 00:25:10,276 --> 00:25:15,279 Myldred and India, who have been mixed up in a relationship 635 00:25:15,348 --> 00:25:17,014 with someone named KJ, 636 00:25:17,083 --> 00:25:20,718 and, well, we're pretty sure you are KJ. 637 00:25:22,288 --> 00:25:28,058 - Okay, well, are you able to jump on a Zoom with us? 638 00:25:33,366 --> 00:25:35,666 - Oh, well, we've talked to India and Myldred, 639 00:25:35,735 --> 00:25:37,701 and they're both happy to talk to you. 640 00:25:37,770 --> 00:25:40,471 Is that okay if they're both on the call? 641 00:25:40,540 --> 00:25:42,973 Is now an okay time? 642 00:25:43,042 --> 00:25:44,508 Darius? 643 00:25:44,577 --> 00:25:46,010 - He hung up? - Yeah. 644 00:25:46,078 --> 00:25:47,244 - Cool as a mother[bleep]ing cucumber. 645 00:25:47,313 --> 00:25:49,280 - Why he said me? 646 00:25:49,348 --> 00:25:51,015 - He said I don't want to talk to Myldred. 647 00:25:51,083 --> 00:25:52,449 I'll talk to India. - Right! 648 00:25:52,518 --> 00:25:55,052 My insides is, like, boiling. 649 00:25:55,121 --> 00:25:57,288 - I can't believe he singled you out like that though. 650 00:25:57,356 --> 00:26:00,157 He needs to know that he can't [bleep] around like this. 651 00:26:00,226 --> 00:26:03,193 Like, if this is gonna be his intro to dating, 652 00:26:03,262 --> 00:26:06,130 and, like, women, this is not a good start. 653 00:26:06,198 --> 00:26:08,465 - Honestly, now I just question everything. 654 00:26:08,534 --> 00:26:11,135 Like, was everything a lie? 655 00:26:11,203 --> 00:26:14,371 - Right, he earned your trust, both of you guys, 656 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,108 by telling you things, and potentially opening up 657 00:26:18,177 --> 00:26:20,010 about stuff that may not have been true. 658 00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:22,212 I mean, I'm also curious to know like, 659 00:26:22,281 --> 00:26:23,948 what's been going on in his life? 660 00:26:24,016 --> 00:26:25,716 Why does he have all those Facebook profiles? 661 00:26:25,785 --> 00:26:27,585 It's just a lot of questions. 662 00:26:27,653 --> 00:26:29,620 - I feel like he was trying to live like an imaginary life. 663 00:26:29,689 --> 00:26:30,955 Like, he really, like-- - Mm-hmm. 664 00:26:31,023 --> 00:26:32,323 - Like, to take away from his actual, 665 00:26:32,391 --> 00:26:34,024 like, I don't know what he's going through, 666 00:26:34,093 --> 00:26:35,326 but maybe he's going through something. 667 00:26:35,394 --> 00:26:38,462 - He gets very depressing, like, a lot. 668 00:26:38,531 --> 00:26:41,198 - Like, the conversations would get very dark? 669 00:26:41,267 --> 00:26:43,100 - Like, it was just like, there were times 670 00:26:43,169 --> 00:26:45,502 when I would tell him I'ma leave him, 671 00:26:45,571 --> 00:26:47,271 he would try to kill himself, 672 00:26:51,177 --> 00:26:53,377 - I don't know what he's going through and if that's 673 00:26:53,446 --> 00:26:55,446 actually something that he's dealing with, 674 00:26:55,514 --> 00:26:59,216 but if not, it's not something that you joke about. 675 00:26:59,285 --> 00:27:00,818 - It's not at all. 676 00:27:00,886 --> 00:27:03,554 [phone dings] - Oh. 677 00:27:03,623 --> 00:27:05,756 - Did he text you? - Yes. 678 00:27:05,825 --> 00:27:08,192 - What did he say? - What? 679 00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:11,762 "Hey, I'm not sure about the show. 680 00:27:11,831 --> 00:27:13,430 I don't know about this." 681 00:27:13,499 --> 00:27:16,333 - Because he know I'ma be on here, that's why. 682 00:27:16,402 --> 00:27:18,168 - Have you guys got into a lot of fights? 683 00:27:18,237 --> 00:27:19,436 - A lot. 684 00:27:19,505 --> 00:27:21,538 - Well, yeah, because every time he comes up 685 00:27:21,607 --> 00:27:23,741 with an excuse and postpones. 686 00:27:23,809 --> 00:27:25,843 Maybe you should text him and just say, 687 00:27:25,911 --> 00:27:28,545 "Hey, I know we've been through a lot, but, like, 688 00:27:28,614 --> 00:27:30,581 "I'm not trying to come at you. 689 00:27:30,650 --> 00:27:32,516 I just want to talk." 690 00:27:32,585 --> 00:27:34,852 - Okay. 691 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,522 - Oh, I see the dot. - Share that screen. 692 00:27:38,591 --> 00:27:40,057 Yeah, there we go. 693 00:27:40,126 --> 00:27:42,760 Oh, "I just need a minute. Give me time to think." 694 00:27:42,828 --> 00:27:44,828 - Whoo! 695 00:27:44,897 --> 00:27:48,432 [tense music] 696 00:27:48,501 --> 00:27:50,100 - Aww, wow. 697 00:27:50,169 --> 00:27:54,605 - Myldred. Do you really mean that? 698 00:27:54,674 --> 00:27:57,241 - No. - [laughs] 699 00:27:57,309 --> 00:27:58,709 I was about to say. 700 00:27:58,778 --> 00:28:00,444 Myldred knows how to the play the game. 701 00:28:00,513 --> 00:28:03,814 - Oh, we got bubbles. - Oh, [bleep]! 702 00:28:03,883 --> 00:28:04,782 - "That's what people always say." 703 00:28:04,850 --> 00:28:06,083 - Oh, [bleep]! 704 00:28:06,152 --> 00:28:07,818 - "You mean it or you just saying it? 705 00:28:07,887 --> 00:28:09,586 I don't know if you mean it." 706 00:28:09,655 --> 00:28:13,657 Wow, he read you. - [laughs] 707 00:28:13,726 --> 00:28:16,960 I would say something like, "Let's just close this chapter 708 00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:19,229 of our lives the right way." 709 00:28:19,298 --> 00:28:20,798 - Okay. 710 00:28:20,866 --> 00:28:25,069 ♪ ♪ 711 00:28:25,137 --> 00:28:27,071 - Aww, and send him the Zoom link, too, 712 00:28:27,139 --> 00:28:30,974 just to put a little pressure on him. 713 00:28:31,043 --> 00:28:35,646 - Oh, this is nerve--my heart is beating so fast. 714 00:28:35,715 --> 00:28:37,047 - Darius needs to bring his ass 715 00:28:37,116 --> 00:28:38,749 to the principal's office immediately. 716 00:28:38,818 --> 00:28:40,150 - Yeah. 717 00:28:40,219 --> 00:28:42,486 All right, so look--oh, oh. 718 00:28:42,555 --> 00:28:44,822 - Hey. 719 00:28:44,890 --> 00:28:46,924 - Hey, I'm very confus--what? 720 00:28:48,861 --> 00:28:52,496 - Ugh, this is nerve--my heart is beating so fast. 721 00:28:52,565 --> 00:28:53,664 - Darius needs to bring his ass 722 00:28:53,733 --> 00:28:55,399 to the principal's office immediately. 723 00:28:55,468 --> 00:28:59,103 - Yeah. All right, so look--oh, oh. 724 00:28:59,171 --> 00:29:00,771 - Hey. 725 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,973 [tense music] 726 00:29:03,042 --> 00:29:05,776 - Hey, I'm very confus--what? 727 00:29:05,845 --> 00:29:07,711 - Wait. 728 00:29:07,780 --> 00:29:09,379 - Who is this? 729 00:29:09,448 --> 00:29:11,014 - Wait, you're not the guy 730 00:29:11,083 --> 00:29:14,084 we thought we were going to talk to. 731 00:29:14,153 --> 00:29:16,086 - I'm confused. 732 00:29:16,155 --> 00:29:18,522 - Just to be clear, you're Darius. 733 00:29:18,591 --> 00:29:20,090 - Yes, sir. 734 00:29:20,159 --> 00:29:21,825 - Wow. 735 00:29:21,894 --> 00:29:23,360 - And you're the one that's been talking to both 736 00:29:23,429 --> 00:29:25,496 of the women here on the Zoom. 737 00:29:25,564 --> 00:29:26,630 - Yes. 738 00:29:26,699 --> 00:29:28,799 - Okay, so we want to just clear this up 739 00:29:28,868 --> 00:29:30,200 because we're a little confused. 740 00:29:30,269 --> 00:29:32,870 We're gonna show you our screen. 741 00:29:32,938 --> 00:29:34,471 Are these your profiles? 742 00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:36,507 Do you know who that is? 743 00:29:36,575 --> 00:29:37,474 - No. 744 00:29:37,543 --> 00:29:39,676 - Okay, so there's just a kid 745 00:29:39,745 --> 00:29:41,111 named Darius [bleep] who lives in Mississippi, 746 00:29:41,180 --> 00:29:44,381 who happens to have a weird profiles, but that's not you. 747 00:29:44,450 --> 00:29:46,550 - Yes. - Got it. 748 00:29:46,619 --> 00:29:48,318 Okay, because that really got confused 749 00:29:48,387 --> 00:29:49,953 because when we looked that name up, 750 00:29:50,022 --> 00:29:53,056 we found like 16 profiles for this kid who's 18, 751 00:29:53,125 --> 00:29:54,691 so we were all wrong. 752 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,193 - Yeah. 753 00:29:56,262 --> 00:29:58,128 - Can you just give us a little background information on you 754 00:29:58,197 --> 00:29:59,463 because we're-- 755 00:29:59,532 --> 00:30:00,731 - Perplexed. - Yeah. 756 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,769 - All right, my name's Darius, and I'm 25. 757 00:30:05,838 --> 00:30:07,738 I stay in Mississippi. 758 00:30:07,807 --> 00:30:09,673 - Okay, so you are in Mississippi. 759 00:30:09,742 --> 00:30:12,743 - What are you doing in Mississippi, scamming? 760 00:30:12,812 --> 00:30:15,979 - No, I made that up. - So you don't scam? 761 00:30:16,048 --> 00:30:17,381 - No. 762 00:30:17,449 --> 00:30:20,484 - And how long have you had a fake profile? 763 00:30:20,553 --> 00:30:22,653 Was it before Myldred? 764 00:30:22,721 --> 00:30:26,356 - It was like, when I had met her, around that time. 765 00:30:26,425 --> 00:30:30,561 - What made you start a profile with somebody else's pictures? 766 00:30:30,629 --> 00:30:35,933 - Because, you know, I felt kind of lonely, 767 00:30:36,001 --> 00:30:39,269 and I felt like I needed people to talk to, 768 00:30:45,010 --> 00:30:47,110 - Okay, but what do you mean a guy like you? 769 00:30:47,179 --> 00:30:48,445 What does that mean? 770 00:30:50,316 --> 00:30:51,882 - Mm-hmm. 771 00:30:51,951 --> 00:30:54,518 - Growing up, where I'm from, when people see me, 772 00:30:54,587 --> 00:30:57,621 they don't see me as a normal person. 773 00:30:57,690 --> 00:31:00,757 - So you've had bad experiences with meeting people. 774 00:31:00,826 --> 00:31:02,559 - Yes. 775 00:31:02,628 --> 00:31:05,963 - And then you mentioned that you lost a brother. 776 00:31:06,031 --> 00:31:09,366 - Yeah, I was very close. That was, like, my best friend. 777 00:31:09,435 --> 00:31:11,735 - What happened? - He got shot. 778 00:31:11,804 --> 00:31:13,837 [soft music] 779 00:31:13,906 --> 00:31:17,074 It was, like, an accidental shooting, 780 00:31:17,142 --> 00:31:19,977 and I wanted more people to talk to 781 00:31:20,045 --> 00:31:22,312 because I ain't have people to talk to at the time. 782 00:31:22,381 --> 00:31:25,582 - Oh, man, that's tough. - We're sorry. 783 00:31:25,651 --> 00:31:28,452 - Was anything that you told Myldred or India 784 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,622 about KJ's life actually true 785 00:31:31,690 --> 00:31:34,491 and sort of part of your life? 786 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,694 - Not really, I made all of that up basically. 787 00:31:37,763 --> 00:31:39,396 - And were you ever hospitalized 788 00:31:39,465 --> 00:31:42,766 for attempted suicide? 789 00:31:42,835 --> 00:31:44,301 - No. 790 00:31:44,370 --> 00:31:46,837 - Wow. 791 00:31:46,906 --> 00:31:48,639 So why did you tell me you was gonna kill yourself 792 00:31:48,707 --> 00:31:50,507 when I said I was gonna leave you? 793 00:31:50,576 --> 00:31:54,144 - Because I felt like I wasn't going to have nobody 794 00:31:54,213 --> 00:31:55,545 to talk to after that, 795 00:31:55,614 --> 00:31:57,714 so that's why I said that, to keep you around. 796 00:31:57,783 --> 00:31:59,750 - But you were talking to India. 797 00:31:59,818 --> 00:32:02,619 - And all these other girls. That's my thing. 798 00:32:02,688 --> 00:32:06,056 - There were other girls that you talked to, right? 799 00:32:06,125 --> 00:32:08,325 - No. 800 00:32:08,394 --> 00:32:10,127 - Didn't you come on here to tell the truth? 801 00:32:10,195 --> 00:32:11,628 - I am. 802 00:32:11,697 --> 00:32:13,363 - What about the girls I saw with my own eyes? 803 00:32:13,432 --> 00:32:14,598 You talk to multiple girls. 804 00:32:14,667 --> 00:32:16,667 Don't make it seem like it's just us. 805 00:32:16,735 --> 00:32:18,936 - I mean, I was, but it wasn't like-- 806 00:32:19,004 --> 00:32:20,170 - Like, a lot. 807 00:32:20,239 --> 00:32:22,172 - Yeah, it wasn't like that. - A lot. 808 00:32:22,241 --> 00:32:24,474 - Yeah. - So yeah, no. 809 00:32:24,543 --> 00:32:29,079 - Wow, my heart is, like, beating so fast right now. 810 00:32:29,148 --> 00:32:31,214 - I mean, look, here's what's confusing to me. 811 00:32:31,283 --> 00:32:35,452 I've spoken to a lot of people who have started a fake profile 812 00:32:35,521 --> 00:32:37,120 because they felt insecure 813 00:32:37,189 --> 00:32:39,089 or maybe they weren't happy with the way they looked, 814 00:32:39,158 --> 00:32:41,491 any number of reasons, of all of which are valid. 815 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,660 What's a little bit more difficult for me here 816 00:32:43,729 --> 00:32:47,364 in this case is that you've continued this relationship now 817 00:32:47,433 --> 00:32:48,432 with Myldred for a long time. 818 00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:49,967 It's been six years, 819 00:32:50,035 --> 00:32:52,769 and over the course of that time she's discovered 820 00:32:52,838 --> 00:32:56,206 that you have lied to her and tried to move on, 821 00:32:56,275 --> 00:33:01,078 but you've continued to lie after those moments. 822 00:33:01,146 --> 00:33:04,014 You kept trying to cover it up and keep the lie going, 823 00:33:04,083 --> 00:33:05,949 and manipulated her into continuing to talk to you 824 00:33:06,018 --> 00:33:07,884 by telling her that if she didn't, 825 00:33:07,953 --> 00:33:10,520 you would kill yourself. 826 00:33:10,589 --> 00:33:12,723 - I wasn't thinking, to be honest, 827 00:33:12,791 --> 00:33:15,659 but I want to apologize to both of them separately 828 00:33:15,728 --> 00:33:17,361 so they can get where I'm coming from. 829 00:33:17,429 --> 00:33:19,796 - You mean privately? - Yeah. 830 00:33:19,865 --> 00:33:21,932 - Okay, well, we can do that. - Okay. 831 00:33:22,001 --> 00:33:23,533 - So, India, will you just give us a minute? 832 00:33:23,602 --> 00:33:24,968 - Okay. - Okay, yeah. 833 00:33:25,037 --> 00:33:28,538 We'll see you in a minute. Is it all right if we stay? 834 00:33:28,607 --> 00:33:32,809 - Y'all can stay. 835 00:33:32,878 --> 00:33:35,812 I'm sorry for the things that I did for you in the past. 836 00:33:35,881 --> 00:33:37,981 Like, I didn't mean to do it. 837 00:33:38,050 --> 00:33:41,852 I know I hurt you a lot, but I really did like you. 838 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,353 I just hope you have enough heart 839 00:33:43,422 --> 00:33:44,721 to forgive me as a person. 840 00:33:44,790 --> 00:33:47,724 Me and you could just be friends and just talk 841 00:33:47,793 --> 00:33:49,826 and get to know each other as the real me. 842 00:33:49,895 --> 00:33:52,763 Like, it don't gotta be today or tomorrow, 843 00:33:52,831 --> 00:33:55,966 but I just want you to forgive me. 844 00:33:56,035 --> 00:34:00,470 [tense music] 845 00:34:02,674 --> 00:34:05,509 - Myldred, do you have a response now? 846 00:34:05,577 --> 00:34:10,547 - Honestly, it's just like, it just hurts so bad right now 847 00:34:10,616 --> 00:34:13,350 because he did put me through a lot. 848 00:34:13,419 --> 00:34:15,185 Like, I knew he was catfishing me, 849 00:34:15,254 --> 00:34:18,422 but I always made him feel comfortable enough 850 00:34:18,490 --> 00:34:20,724 to tell me who he really was. 851 00:34:20,793 --> 00:34:23,260 I just feel really betrayed. 852 00:34:23,328 --> 00:34:25,228 Every time you would tell me "I'm gonna kill myself, 853 00:34:25,297 --> 00:34:27,998 I'm this, I'm that," I'm over here crying for you. 854 00:34:28,067 --> 00:34:31,201 You catfished me for six years, 855 00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:34,438 six, and keep coming back. 856 00:34:34,506 --> 00:34:36,840 - I didn't know how to bring myself out at the time. 857 00:34:36,909 --> 00:34:38,341 It's like I wanted to tell you, 858 00:34:38,410 --> 00:34:39,342 but I didn't know how to tell you. 859 00:34:39,411 --> 00:34:40,710 - No you didn't, 860 00:34:40,779 --> 00:34:42,379 because you're not telling me because of India. 861 00:34:42,448 --> 00:34:44,147 You was never going to tell me. 862 00:34:44,216 --> 00:34:45,849 - It's not even just that. 863 00:34:45,918 --> 00:34:47,584 - You're just full of bull[bleep]. 864 00:34:47,653 --> 00:34:49,286 I don't even care. 865 00:34:49,354 --> 00:34:52,322 - Do you feel like you have a stronger connection with India? 866 00:34:52,391 --> 00:34:54,624 - To be honest, yeah. 867 00:34:54,693 --> 00:34:58,028 - Okay, okay. 868 00:35:00,899 --> 00:35:03,333 Everything that he ever told me was a lie, 869 00:35:03,402 --> 00:35:06,536 so there's no friendship there. 870 00:35:06,605 --> 00:35:09,940 - All right. 871 00:35:10,008 --> 00:35:14,311 Maybe we should bring in India? 872 00:35:14,379 --> 00:35:16,179 - Okay. 873 00:35:16,248 --> 00:35:17,714 - So, Myldred, just hang out a little bit, 874 00:35:17,783 --> 00:35:19,850 and we'll ping you when it's time to bring you back. 875 00:35:19,918 --> 00:35:22,119 - Okay. - All right. 876 00:35:22,187 --> 00:35:28,792 ♪ ♪ 877 00:35:28,861 --> 00:35:32,195 - All right. Thanks for waiting, India. 878 00:35:32,264 --> 00:35:34,264 - All right, India, 879 00:35:34,333 --> 00:35:37,300 I know me and you haven't known each other for that long, 880 00:35:37,369 --> 00:35:40,837 but them past three months really brought me out 881 00:35:40,906 --> 00:35:43,039 to be the person I am today. 882 00:35:43,108 --> 00:35:46,610 You had told me that I can just be myself, 883 00:35:46,678 --> 00:35:47,978 that really kind of touched my heart, 884 00:35:48,046 --> 00:35:49,613 because ain't nobody never told me that 885 00:35:49,681 --> 00:35:51,114 for real, for real. 886 00:35:51,183 --> 00:35:53,984 You really made me feel happy about myself, 887 00:35:54,052 --> 00:35:57,554 and I feel like me and you have, like, 888 00:35:57,623 --> 00:36:00,490 a connection that could never be broke. 889 00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:03,126 Like, I'ma stop all the lies. 890 00:36:03,195 --> 00:36:06,897 I'ma stop all the manipulative things that I did. 891 00:36:06,965 --> 00:36:09,866 I really love you a lot, more than as a friend. 892 00:36:09,935 --> 00:36:13,503 But it's up to you. It's what you want. 893 00:36:13,572 --> 00:36:20,710 ♪ ♪ 894 00:36:24,183 --> 00:36:25,782 - I feel like me and you have, like, 895 00:36:25,851 --> 00:36:29,452 a connection that can never be broke, 896 00:36:29,521 --> 00:36:32,389 but it's what you want. 897 00:36:32,457 --> 00:36:36,326 - So, like... 898 00:36:36,395 --> 00:36:39,896 I'm glad that I guess I helped you, in a way, 899 00:36:39,965 --> 00:36:44,935 to bring yourself out and, like, show the real you, 900 00:36:45,003 --> 00:36:48,939 but at the same time, relationship-wise, 901 00:36:49,007 --> 00:36:51,608 I just wouldn't be able to talk to you to be honest. 902 00:36:51,677 --> 00:36:54,244 And it has nothing to do with who you actually are, 903 00:36:54,313 --> 00:36:56,246 it has to do with the fact that you lied so much about it, 904 00:36:56,315 --> 00:36:58,415 and who's to say you're not gonna lie again 905 00:36:58,483 --> 00:37:00,383 about whatever else? 906 00:37:02,087 --> 00:37:03,720 I don't know what you're telling other people. 907 00:37:03,789 --> 00:37:05,322 I don't know what you've done 908 00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:07,290 or how far you've went with certain things, 909 00:37:07,359 --> 00:37:09,226 and I don't know how many other girls you've done this to. 910 00:37:09,294 --> 00:37:11,027 Yeah, I take your feelings into consideration, too, 911 00:37:11,096 --> 00:37:12,829 but what about mine, what about Myldred's? 912 00:37:12,898 --> 00:37:14,998 What about all the other girls? 913 00:37:15,067 --> 00:37:16,499 You should be yourself. 914 00:37:16,568 --> 00:37:17,567 You're gonna find someone 915 00:37:17,636 --> 00:37:19,035 one day who will make you happy, 916 00:37:19,104 --> 00:37:22,005 who will love you for you and accept you for you. 917 00:37:22,074 --> 00:37:23,406 - There's no excuse. 918 00:37:23,475 --> 00:37:24,674 You want to meet a woman, 919 00:37:24,743 --> 00:37:26,309 you want a woman to spend time on you 920 00:37:26,378 --> 00:37:29,279 and love you for who you are, show up as yourself 921 00:37:29,348 --> 00:37:31,114 and give her the opportunity to do that, 922 00:37:31,183 --> 00:37:35,485 but you don't lie, and manipulate, and hurt 923 00:37:35,554 --> 00:37:37,287 to get what you want. 924 00:37:37,356 --> 00:37:40,090 ♪ ♪ 925 00:37:40,158 --> 00:37:43,693 - Can you accept that things between you and India are over? 926 00:37:43,762 --> 00:37:45,362 - I just know I [bleep]ed up a lot. 927 00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:47,864 It's not gonna go back to the old days, 928 00:37:47,933 --> 00:37:49,566 like the old ways. 929 00:37:49,635 --> 00:37:50,834 I don't want to accept it, 930 00:37:50,902 --> 00:37:53,603 but I'ma have to accept it pretty much. 931 00:37:53,672 --> 00:37:57,274 ♪ ♪ 932 00:37:57,342 --> 00:37:59,442 - All right, well, why don't we bring Myldred back in. 933 00:37:59,511 --> 00:38:02,579 ♪ ♪ 934 00:38:02,648 --> 00:38:04,414 - Welcome back, Myldred. - All right. 935 00:38:04,483 --> 00:38:08,051 So considering what you've sort of done and why we're all here, 936 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,588 I think both India and Myldred have been very generous 937 00:38:11,657 --> 00:38:14,124 and compassionate towards you, 938 00:38:14,192 --> 00:38:17,961 expressing how they feel in a very calm and mature way, 939 00:38:18,030 --> 00:38:21,364 and I hope that what they've said and what we've said 940 00:38:21,433 --> 00:38:24,267 has meant something to you, and that you've heard it, 941 00:38:24,336 --> 00:38:27,637 and hopefully will consider it deeply, 942 00:38:27,706 --> 00:38:31,441 and allow it to inform your decision making in the future. 943 00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:33,743 I think specifically, we'd all like to know 944 00:38:33,812 --> 00:38:37,614 that you're going to delete the Instagram page and the TikTok, 945 00:38:37,683 --> 00:38:42,118 or whatever other profiles you may have that are not you. 946 00:38:42,187 --> 00:38:44,654 - Yes. - You will delete those? 947 00:38:44,723 --> 00:38:46,423 - Yes. 948 00:38:46,491 --> 00:38:48,258 - And just moving forward, with anybody that you meet, 949 00:38:48,327 --> 00:38:50,527 in person or online, you'll just be honest? 950 00:38:50,595 --> 00:38:52,295 - Yes. 951 00:38:52,364 --> 00:38:56,433 - Because truly, there are a lot of people who are little 952 00:38:56,501 --> 00:39:01,304 who live very full and bold, authentic lives. 953 00:39:01,373 --> 00:39:04,240 While we have every reason to have compassion for you 954 00:39:04,309 --> 00:39:06,910 and understanding, that is not an excuse-- 955 00:39:06,978 --> 00:39:08,445 - Mm-mm, not at all. 956 00:39:08,513 --> 00:39:10,513 - To do any of the things that you have done. 957 00:39:10,582 --> 00:39:13,083 ♪ ♪ 958 00:39:13,151 --> 00:39:17,120 - I think that you should try to focus on yourself 959 00:39:17,189 --> 00:39:19,089 before you continue to go online 960 00:39:19,157 --> 00:39:21,191 and search for other women who are going to love you. 961 00:39:21,259 --> 00:39:22,692 If you don't love yourself and you're not happy 962 00:39:22,761 --> 00:39:24,861 within yourself, you're not going to find it in any girls. 963 00:39:24,930 --> 00:39:26,830 - Not at all. 964 00:39:26,898 --> 00:39:29,432 ♪ ♪ 965 00:39:29,501 --> 00:39:32,168 - All right, well, I appreciate that you came on here. 966 00:39:32,237 --> 00:39:34,604 I know that wasn't easy to do. 967 00:39:34,673 --> 00:39:36,473 - To the both of you, 968 00:39:36,541 --> 00:39:39,275 I really am sorry for everything I put y'all through. 969 00:39:39,344 --> 00:39:40,777 - I hope so. 970 00:39:40,846 --> 00:39:42,545 - Thank you. 971 00:39:42,614 --> 00:39:44,414 - All right, good to meet you. Good luck with everything. 972 00:39:44,483 --> 00:39:45,648 - Bye. 973 00:39:45,717 --> 00:39:46,783 - Bye. - Good luck, Darius. 974 00:39:46,852 --> 00:39:49,519 See you later. - Bye. 975 00:39:49,588 --> 00:39:52,322 - Ladies, ladies, ladies. 976 00:39:52,391 --> 00:39:54,624 - I mean, I can't believe how wrong we were. 977 00:39:54,693 --> 00:39:57,861 - Wow, that was wrong wrong. 978 00:39:57,929 --> 00:40:00,196 - When he popped up I was so confused. 979 00:40:00,265 --> 00:40:02,999 - Me too. - Oh, my gosh, for real. 980 00:40:03,068 --> 00:40:04,434 - I want to applaud both of you 981 00:40:04,503 --> 00:40:09,339 for being so clear and honest with your feelings. 982 00:40:09,408 --> 00:40:12,642 - I think we can hopefully expect much better from him, 983 00:40:12,711 --> 00:40:14,911 but it has been lovely spending time with both of you. 984 00:40:14,980 --> 00:40:16,446 - Thank you. 985 00:40:16,515 --> 00:40:18,114 - Thank you. It was nice to meet you both. 986 00:40:18,183 --> 00:40:21,851 - Good to meet you girls. - Bye, ladies. 987 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,153 - Bye! - Bye. 988 00:40:23,221 --> 00:40:24,020 - Bye. 989 00:40:24,089 --> 00:40:28,858 - ♪ Oh ♪ 990 00:40:28,927 --> 00:40:30,927 ♪ It's time to let go ♪ 991 00:40:30,996 --> 00:40:35,832 ♪ Oh ♪ 992 00:40:35,901 --> 00:40:38,368 ♪ It's time to let go ♪ 993 00:40:38,437 --> 00:40:41,638 ♪ I'm gonna feed the fire ♪ 994 00:40:41,706 --> 00:40:44,641 ♪ Watching all the flames go higher ♪ 995 00:40:44,709 --> 00:40:49,179 ♪ Oh ♪ 996 00:40:49,247 --> 00:40:52,282 ♪ It's time to let go ♪ 997 00:40:55,854 --> 00:40:57,554 - Trace, single mom meets Ace. [upbeat mu 998 00:40:57,622 --> 00:40:59,456 - He's like, "I'm ready to be a stepfather. 999 00:40:59,524 --> 00:41:00,757 I want to have children." 1000 00:41:00,826 --> 00:41:02,959 So that's why I wanted to see what's going on. 1001 00:41:03,028 --> 00:41:05,462 - Searching his number. 1002 00:41:05,530 --> 00:41:06,696 - Pacific pay phone? 1003 00:41:06,765 --> 00:41:08,031 - There's a map. 1004 00:41:08,099 --> 00:41:09,599 We're actually not that far from there. 1005 00:41:09,668 --> 00:41:10,733 Here it is, okay. 1006 00:41:10,802 --> 00:41:11,835 - Ready for the stakeout. 1007 00:41:11,903 --> 00:41:13,069 - There's someone. 1008 00:41:13,138 --> 00:41:14,504 This could be our guy.