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She was 14.
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- Honestly, it's more
than just, like,
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"Oh, I have a crush on him."
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We have a really
deep connection.
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- Dey has been waiting
for this moment for 13 years.
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Let's run his phone number.
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What?
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- No, no!
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- Oh, oh, oh, he's typing.
- [gasps]
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- I'm so nervous.
Oh, my God.
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[gasps]
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[dramatic musical sting]
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- We're about to walk in
on our new,
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finished "Catfish"
headquarters.
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Go check it out?
- I'm scared.
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What's it gonna be like?
Oh, my God, hey, guys.
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- What's up, everyone?
- Oh.
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I love it.
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- My all-time favorite,
the trail mix dispenser.
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- That's your favorite out
of all the snacks you see here?
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- Yeah.
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- Oh, my God.
First office mess.
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Is that a good shot?
- Very creative.
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Let's go, Smalls.
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Wow, look at the plant babies.
They're all here.
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- Two proper desk chairs,
look at this.
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- We may begin.
- All right.
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Let's open our email.
The subject is "LONG Overdue."
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Mm.
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"Dear Nev and Kamie,
my name is Dey.
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"I live in Los Angeles,
and I'm writing to you
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"because I'm finally
in an online relationship
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"with someone I've had
a crush on for 13 years,
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"but we've never met.
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"His name is Cody,
and he lives in Iowa.
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"Cody was a popular YouTuber,
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"and I became a huge fan
of his content.
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"I got obsessed with him
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"and eventually started
trying to reach out to him.
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"We finally connected.
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"At first, it was very casual,
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"but I was determined
to be more than just a fan.
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"So about five years ago,
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"I searched for his username
on Snapchat
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and sent him a message."
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Snapchat username.
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- How do you know?
- Might not be the same person.
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- How do you know
it's the same person?
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- Well, let's see
what she says.
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"To my surprise, he responded,
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"and we have been
in contact ever since.
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More recently though,
things have gotten serious."
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- ♪ A stolen kiss and a storm
beating in my chest ♪
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- "We're finally both single,
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and he seems
to be super into me."
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- ♪ Will you love me when we
come to our senses? ♪
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- "We talk about having
a future together.
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He even--"
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- This is a lot of information.
[laughs]
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- "He even cancelled
his vasectomy
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because we want to have kids
together one day."
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- ♪ Oh, can we make this
better or is this real? ♪
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- "The problem is
that we never video chat
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- It's not him.
or taIt's not him.ne."
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- "I really need your help
finding out what's going on.
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Hope to hear from you.
Dey."
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- Hmm.
- Let's text Dey.
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Yeah, "Omg" is right.
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- After 13 years,
we need to get Dey up in here,
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sit them down,
wave these in their face.
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- More like Dey-dreaming.
- Exactly.
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- Hey!
- Hey!
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- Hi!
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- What's up?
- Oh, my God, hi.
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- Hey, Dey.
- Wow, so wait.
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So you're in Los--we're
in Los Angeles.
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Where are you?
- Yeah.
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- 'Cause I can probably
see you from here.
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- We're gonna find you.
- Turn your lights on and off.
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- [laughs]
Right now, I'm in Alhambra.
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- Oh, a little further away.
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- Out.
So tell us about yourself.
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Have you always lived in L.A.?
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- Yes.
- Cali girl.
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- And how old are you?
- 27.
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- '90s babies, hey.
- Yeah.
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- Can't relate.
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All right, well,
we read your email,
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and we definitely feel
like there are some...
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- I know, I know.
- Red flags.
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- Everybody thinks
there's red flags,
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but I am so trusting.
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I 100%, like,
want to believe that it's real.
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- Which Cody are
we talking about?
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- Cody [bleep].
- Now, we have to Google.
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- We gotta look him up.
Hold on.
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Is this him?
Saturn [bleep] films?
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- Yeah, he is, like,
super artistic
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and, like, talented.
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He's a photographer.
He does film.
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Like, everything, you know?
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- So how did you find him?
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- I was looking up
another YouTuber,
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and then,
at the end of the video,
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he said, "Thanks to my editor,"
who was Cody.
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And I just saw him, and I was
just like, "He's so cute."
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So I would always
comment on his page.
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He would just generically
be like,
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"Oh, thanks for the support,"
that kind of thing.
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I ended up finding him
on Snapchat
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by searching
the Saturn [bleep] Films name
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that is on his YouTube.
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And right after I sent him
a message,
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he sent me a message back,
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and that's how
we started talking.
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And then, on Snapchat,
he talks to me, like,
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throughout the day,
all the time.
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- How do you know that
it was his Snapchat?
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- I don't know.
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I just assumed it was
because of the same name,
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like, the username
that he uses for YouTube.
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- I mean,
it's a pretty specific--
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- It is a specific name.
- This was a while ago, right?
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- Yeah, this was around,
like, 2017.
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- Do you still follow him
on all his other platforms?
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- Yeah.
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- And he's never acknowledged
you really or DMed you?
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- I like his things or, like,
I'll comment on his pictures,
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but he doesn't acknowledge me.
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- That's not good.
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- And the thing is,
on his Instagram,
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he never deletes, like,
his ex-girlfriend's pictures,
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but there's, like,
several ex-girlfriends.
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- But no current relationship?
- Not that I can tell.
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I mean,
I'm going based on what,
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you know, like,
Cody on Snapchat tells me.
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- Right.
- Mm-hmm.
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- But on Snapchat
your friendship has been what?
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Like, how did it progress?
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- Yeah, so we've always
been friends,
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but everything kind of changed
the beginning of the year,
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because he was single,
I was single.
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That's when we started
getting a little more close
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and really wanting
to, like, meet each other.
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- I mean, I'll say.
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You guys are talking
about having kids.
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- That just recently started.
Like, it recently came up.
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It wasn't like we were always
talking about having children.
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- Does he have kids already?
- No.
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- So he was thinking about
getting a vasectomy
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'cause he didn't think
he ever wanted to have kids.
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- He doesn't want kids, yeah.
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- But he's willing
to reconsider for you?
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- Yeah, that's what he said.
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- But he's not willing to get
on the phone or FaceTime?
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- Exactly, and I've even tried
calling, but he won't answer.
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- Wait, but so do you have
his phone number?
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- Yeah.
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- Have you talked
to him on there?
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- No.
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- So he's never, in any way,
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corresponded with you
through the cellphone?
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- No.
- I have a question.
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Why are you putting up
with this?
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Like, what is it about
this person?
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I'm confused.
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- Honestly, like,
it's more than just, like,
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"Oh, I have a crush on him,
and he's just a random dude."
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We have a really
deep connection.
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- Okay.
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- I feel like the main thing is
just, like, our mental health.
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I am diagnosed schizophrenic,
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and it was around 2019
when I was diagnosed.
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So I was already
talking to him,
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and I didn't want
to take medication,
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and it was all part
of my--you know,
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my disorder that
I had delusions to not take it.
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So I talked to him.
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He's literally the one
that got through.
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You know, he said it in a way
where I understood.
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So then I started taking
my medication every day,
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and I did notice a difference.
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So now every time that I feel
good and I'm okay mentally,
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I'm like I can't--I
would have not been here,
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if he wouldn't have
helped me then.
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- And so especially now that
he's going through something--
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he was recently diagnosed
with a disorder, as well.
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He also was like,
"I don't want to take meds.
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I'm scared,"
and so he finally got on meds,
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and he's been doing
really well,
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so I feel like we just help
each other out, in that way.
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- Have you been dealing
with this, like,
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for as long
as you can remember?
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- No, I developed it around,
like, my 18th birthday.
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I started hearing
random things
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that weren't really there.
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There's different types
of schizophrenia,
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but my specific experience,
what I hear,
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is kind of like a commentary
of my life all the time.
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"She's getting off her bed.
She's grabbing her phone,"
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so everything that I'm doing
it's literally being,
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like, narrated in a voice...
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- Wow.
- That's not my own.
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- Like intrusive thoughts.
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- Yeah, exactly,
it's a very intrusive thought,
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and it's constant,
constant, constant.
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So it's just very overwhelming,
but luckily, like,
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when I am on medication
it kind of, like, fades out.
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Like, I can just ignore it,
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and it's so much
less stressful.
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- Well, I think it's very brave
of you opening up
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to us about that.
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I can understand
why finding someone
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who you can connect with
about that who understands,
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and encourages,
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and supports you in that way
is really meaningful.
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- Yeah.
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- And it makes me
like this guy,
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but it's been 13 years.
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He's a filmmaker.
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- Yeah.
- You're on Snapchat with him.
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Can't he just
send you pictures?
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Does he send you little videos?
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- No, so he doesn't
send me videos,
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but he has sent me,
like, pictures.
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- Okay.
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- But the thing is I watch
"Catfish" all the time,
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and I know this is one
of the things that--ugh.
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He'll send me a picture--
- Oh, God, hold on now.
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- That he's previously posted,
so, like,
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he doesn't really send me,
like, original, original--
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- No new pictures?
- No, yeah.
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I was like,
"I'm going to call 'Catfish,'"
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and then he backed off.
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He's not the same now.
He's standoffish.
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- Yeah.
- It's a red flag.
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I know, trust me.
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I know, but I mean even
if it's not really him,
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I just want to know
who I'm talking to,
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because it's been a long time.
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- Can you plug your phone in
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and show us some photos
and Snapchat messages?
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- I mean,
I have some screenshots.
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- Here we go.
- Oh, he's cute.
245
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- Oh, and then this is where
the first time he ever said...
246
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- Oh.
- He loved me.
247
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He said,
"I do love you, dummy."
248
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- Had you said it
to him before?
249
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- Not before then, no.
250
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- Who is this?
251
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- That's his mom.
252
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- Oh, his mom.
253
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- All right, well, look.
Clearly, something's going on.
254
00:09:51,158 --> 00:09:54,292
- There is a piece
that is missing in this story.
255
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- I just want to, like,
put a face
256
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to who I'm speaking to.
257
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Even if it's not the face
I thought, I just want to know.
258
00:10:01,602 --> 00:10:03,335
- I feel like we should be able
to figure this out.
259
00:10:03,403 --> 00:10:06,171
- I love your confidence.
I believe in you.
260
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- Send us an email
with the phone number,
261
00:10:08,208 --> 00:10:09,541
anything else
you can think of.
262
00:10:09,610 --> 00:10:11,109
- Got it, okay, cool.
263
00:10:11,178 --> 00:10:12,911
- And let us get to work.
- Thank you, guys.
264
00:10:12,980 --> 00:10:15,213
- Thanks, Dey.
- Bye.
265
00:10:15,282 --> 00:10:17,716
I don't know.
It's just--it's weird.
266
00:10:17,784 --> 00:10:18,783
- It's weird.
267
00:10:18,852 --> 00:10:21,252
- Why would this guy be
so shady
268
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about talking on the phone
or video chatting?
269
00:10:23,957 --> 00:10:26,291
- And why,
when she mentioned the fact
270
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that she was gonna contact us,
he backs off all of a sudden?
271
00:10:30,731 --> 00:10:33,264
- Dey has been waiting
for this moment for 13 years,
272
00:10:33,333 --> 00:10:35,000
and she deserves
to know the truth.
273
00:10:36,703 --> 00:10:38,069
- Are you ready?
274
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Are you inviting me to, like--
- Yes.
275
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- Like a thing?
We're ready.
276
00:10:42,376 --> 00:10:44,209
- I thought you were gonna
give me more of a--
277
00:10:44,277 --> 00:10:46,745
- Oh, okay, all right.
Should we try that again?
278
00:10:46,813 --> 00:10:49,147
- No.
- [laughs]
279
00:10:49,216 --> 00:10:51,416
- All right, so what do we got?
We got Dey.
280
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She found Cody
when she was 14 on YouTube,
281
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had a big crush on him,
282
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has been following him
ever since.
283
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Then, five years ago,
284
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searches his name on Snapchat,
and finds an account,
285
00:11:02,763 --> 00:11:04,696
and they become friends
over Snapchat.
286
00:11:04,765 --> 00:11:06,164
But their friendship
gets deeper and deeper,
287
00:11:06,233 --> 00:11:07,832
because they open up
to each other about
288
00:11:07,901 --> 00:11:09,467
their mental health issues
that they're going through.
289
00:11:09,536 --> 00:11:10,535
- Mm-hmm.
290
00:11:10,604 --> 00:11:12,771
- And they develop
this real bond.
291
00:11:12,839 --> 00:11:15,874
- Then, earlier this year,
things start heating up
292
00:11:15,942 --> 00:11:18,977
and moving in the direction
of this could be a thing.
293
00:11:19,046 --> 00:11:21,046
They communicate exclusively
on Snapchat.
294
00:11:21,114 --> 00:11:23,915
- Even though she has
his number, allegedly.
295
00:11:23,984 --> 00:11:25,417
- But he won't
answer a phone call,
296
00:11:25,485 --> 00:11:27,318
and he sent her
a handful of photos,
297
00:11:27,387 --> 00:11:29,821
but most of them are just
from social media.
298
00:11:29,890 --> 00:11:31,456
- Right,
it's not looking great.
299
00:11:31,525 --> 00:11:33,358
- Right, let's first get email.
Okay.
300
00:11:33,427 --> 00:11:35,126
"Everything I have on Cody."
301
00:11:35,195 --> 00:11:36,594
"Hey, guys.
Thank you so much.
302
00:11:36,663 --> 00:11:38,797
"Attached are the pictures
of Cody that I have,
303
00:11:38,865 --> 00:11:40,365
"his number,
304
00:11:40,434 --> 00:11:41,966
and here is all the social
media I have for him."
305
00:11:42,035 --> 00:11:43,468
- Okay.
306
00:11:43,537 --> 00:11:45,470
- So I think I just want
to look through his Instagram.
307
00:11:45,539 --> 00:11:49,441
All right, so he posted
most recently a month ago.
308
00:11:49,509 --> 00:11:50,608
- "Imagine a phobia of doctors.
309
00:11:52,045 --> 00:11:53,812
"to meet a doctor that
actually wants to help you.
310
00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,347
"He prescribes you something,
and your insurance denies it.
311
00:11:56,416 --> 00:11:57,615
"I am in pain.
I'm hurting.
312
00:11:59,119 --> 00:12:04,155
Well, whoever Dey is talking to
is definitely mirroring a lot
313
00:12:04,224 --> 00:12:06,791
of what Cody is saying
on his Instagram.
314
00:12:06,860 --> 00:12:08,059
- Right.
315
00:12:08,128 --> 00:12:11,463
- Who's the girl
in this picture?
316
00:12:11,531 --> 00:12:13,264
- Interesting
that she's not tagged.
317
00:12:13,333 --> 00:12:16,468
- Yeah.
- Ooh, there's a video.
318
00:12:16,536 --> 00:12:20,071
- All right, so it's
Valentine's Day, or it was.
319
00:12:20,140 --> 00:12:22,240
That's my girlfriend Lena.
320
00:12:24,211 --> 00:12:25,710
- Lena, his girlfriend.
321
00:12:25,779 --> 00:12:27,278
That's the girl
in all the photos.
322
00:12:27,347 --> 00:12:29,914
- All right,
so February of this year,
323
00:12:29,983 --> 00:12:33,118
he was spending it
with his girlfriend.
324
00:12:33,186 --> 00:12:36,521
There's then lots of posts
of her since then,
325
00:12:36,590 --> 00:12:39,491
going back as recently
as two months ago.
326
00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,727
So the question is have
they broken up since?
327
00:12:42,796 --> 00:12:45,497
- We don't even know if this is
the Cody that she's talking to.
328
00:12:45,565 --> 00:12:47,198
- Let's go and see
who he's following.
329
00:12:47,267 --> 00:12:48,767
- Hope we can find Lena.
330
00:12:48,835 --> 00:12:53,104
- Yeah, is he following Lena?
Lena, Lena, there she is.
331
00:12:53,173 --> 00:12:56,174
- Lena!
- There she is, Lena Salitto.
332
00:12:56,243 --> 00:12:59,144
- This is definitely her page,
but she doesn't have anything.
333
00:12:59,212 --> 00:13:00,512
There's nothing there.
334
00:13:00,580 --> 00:13:03,081
- Yeah, Dey is on his Instagram
and sees this.
335
00:13:03,150 --> 00:13:04,616
- Yeah.
336
00:13:04,684 --> 00:13:07,118
- Like, did their friendship
only become flirtatious
337
00:13:07,187 --> 00:13:09,788
since this potential breakup?
338
00:13:09,856 --> 00:13:12,090
- She said,
at the top of the year.
339
00:13:12,159 --> 00:13:13,558
- That's what I thought.
340
00:13:13,627 --> 00:13:18,196
Let's ask her.
What's the deal with Lena?
341
00:13:18,265 --> 00:13:19,564
- Oh.
342
00:13:28,475 --> 00:13:29,841
- She knew he had
a girlfriend obviously.
343
00:13:29,910 --> 00:13:31,109
She said it.
344
00:13:31,178 --> 00:13:32,844
Maybe they broke up
on Valentine's Day.
345
00:13:32,913 --> 00:13:34,279
- And then, since then,
346
00:13:34,347 --> 00:13:35,947
he's just posted
a buttload of pictures of her?
347
00:13:36,016 --> 00:13:38,149
- He likes his art.
348
00:13:38,218 --> 00:13:40,919
- So now let's run
his phone number.
349
00:13:40,987 --> 00:13:43,454
What?
350
00:13:43,523 --> 00:13:45,456
And it comes up
for Lena Salitto.
351
00:13:45,525 --> 00:13:50,061
- That--no.
- That's his ex-girlfriend.
352
00:13:50,130 --> 00:13:53,164
- I know!
- Okay, so wait a second.
353
00:13:53,233 --> 00:13:57,735
- No, oh, no!
Let's run out the Lena play.
354
00:13:57,804 --> 00:14:01,406
Dey is all over Cody's pages
fangirling, doing the most.
355
00:14:01,474 --> 00:14:02,941
- Right, someone sees that.
356
00:14:03,009 --> 00:14:06,211
- Lena had to have had
the Saturn [bleep] Snapchat
357
00:14:06,279 --> 00:14:07,412
already created
358
00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,581
and had been behind it
the entire time.
359
00:14:09,649 --> 00:14:12,650
- And just waited for her
to look it up and add it?
360
00:14:12,719 --> 00:14:15,687
She says she actively
looked for
361
00:14:15,755 --> 00:14:18,523
and discovered
the Snapchat page.
362
00:14:18,592 --> 00:14:22,026
So if the ex is behind this,
that's a really long con.
363
00:14:22,095 --> 00:14:26,064
- I don't know, I don't know.
- All right, hold on a second.
364
00:14:26,132 --> 00:14:27,265
There's still more
in this email
365
00:14:27,334 --> 00:14:28,299
that we haven't looked at.
366
00:14:28,368 --> 00:14:30,735
There's a Facebook.
367
00:14:30,804 --> 00:14:32,637
- "Happy International
Women's Day.
368
00:14:32,706 --> 00:14:34,672
I love all the women
in my life"--oh, look.
369
00:14:34,741 --> 00:14:38,676
- Look who's there.
- Lena and the mom.
370
00:14:38,745 --> 00:14:42,981
Tracy [bleep], message her.
- All right.
371
00:14:48,722 --> 00:14:52,390
- She'll know that for sure.
"Catfish," never heard of it.
372
00:14:52,459 --> 00:14:54,192
She will know--Moms know
"Dancing With the Stars."
373
00:14:54,261 --> 00:14:55,526
- And "Catfish."
374
00:15:00,967 --> 00:15:03,268
Okay, and let's just see
what else comes up,
375
00:15:03,336 --> 00:15:06,504
if we Google Saturn [bleep]
Films because what is that?
376
00:15:06,573 --> 00:15:08,306
Oh, wait, Cody [bleep],
a Tumblr.
377
00:15:08,375 --> 00:15:12,343
Okay, the YouTube.
What's Encyclopedia Pwned?
378
00:15:12,412 --> 00:15:13,978
I've never heard of that.
What is that?
379
00:15:14,047 --> 00:15:17,682
"Cody [bleep] Saturn [bleep]
Films is a god-awful filmmaker
380
00:15:17,751 --> 00:15:19,651
"and an even worse vlogger
381
00:15:19,719 --> 00:15:21,452
"who believes
that greed is good.
382
00:15:21,521 --> 00:15:24,422
Like every other atheist,
he's a [bleep] apologist."
383
00:15:24,491 --> 00:15:26,658
This is so weird.
384
00:15:26,726 --> 00:15:29,494
- Why so mean?
Who wrote this [bleep]?
385
00:15:29,562 --> 00:15:31,129
And do you mean
to tell me somebody
386
00:15:31,197 --> 00:15:33,831
who was this [bleep] crazy
387
00:15:33,900 --> 00:15:36,868
and would write
this entire thing about Cody
388
00:15:36,937 --> 00:15:39,170
couldn't make a fake
Snapchat about him,
389
00:15:39,239 --> 00:15:41,639
so that he doesn't have his
page or something like that?
390
00:15:41,708 --> 00:15:43,875
- This whole website
is, like, very weird.
391
00:15:43,944 --> 00:15:46,244
- I feel like we're, like,
on the dark web.
392
00:15:46,313 --> 00:15:48,546
[phone chimes]
- Oh.
393
00:15:48,615 --> 00:15:50,815
There's a phone call
from [bleep] Iowa.
394
00:15:50,884 --> 00:15:51,849
Hello?
395
00:15:53,219 --> 00:15:54,452
- Yes, it is.
Who's this?
396
00:15:55,155 --> 00:15:57,622
- Thank you for getting back
to me so quickly.
397
00:15:57,691 --> 00:16:02,961
Are you familiar with me
via my show "Catfish"
398
00:16:03,029 --> 00:16:06,297
or my performance
on "Dancing With the Stars"?
399
00:16:08,601 --> 00:16:10,768
- Okay, great.
All right, so listen.
400
00:16:10,837 --> 00:16:14,305
I need a little help because
a young woman reached out
401
00:16:14,374 --> 00:16:17,709
because she tells us
that she has been friends
402
00:16:17,777 --> 00:16:21,079
with your son Cody
for a number of years now...
403
00:16:21,581 --> 00:16:23,548
- And that in the last four
or five months,
404
00:16:23,616 --> 00:16:24,749
that friendship has become
405
00:16:24,818 --> 00:16:28,786
a bit more flirtatious
and intimate.
406
00:16:29,255 --> 00:16:30,621
- Do you know anything
about this,
407
00:16:30,690 --> 00:16:33,691
or has Cody mentioned
anything like this to you?
408
00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,327
- Does he have a girlfriend?
- Is he in a relationship?
409
00:16:44,604 --> 00:16:46,938
- Sure, but has he ever
mentioned her name?
410
00:16:47,407 --> 00:16:49,640
- Okay, so from
what we understand,
411
00:16:49,709 --> 00:16:52,744
he was in a relationship
with Lena for a while there.
412
00:16:53,213 --> 00:16:54,579
- But that ended this year?
413
00:16:55,281 --> 00:16:59,217
- So then, rather than you
telling us Cody's Snapchat,
414
00:16:59,285 --> 00:17:00,685
if I tell you the name we have,
415
00:17:00,754 --> 00:17:04,722
you can just say whether
or not that's his or not.
416
00:17:05,325 --> 00:17:10,995
- The Snapchat name that she
has is Saturn [bleep] Films.
417
00:17:15,668 --> 00:17:16,734
- Right, as far as you know,
418
00:17:16,803 --> 00:17:18,336
he only has
one Snapchat account,
419
00:17:18,405 --> 00:17:20,538
and it's not
Saturn [bleep] Films?
420
00:17:23,043 --> 00:17:24,008
- Got it.
421
00:17:26,579 --> 00:17:27,845
- Okay.
- Thank you.
422
00:17:27,914 --> 00:17:28,846
- Bye-bye.
423
00:17:29,849 --> 00:17:31,949
- Okay,
so from that phone call,
424
00:17:32,018 --> 00:17:34,752
we have to assume Dey
is not talking to Cody.
425
00:17:34,821 --> 00:17:36,220
- Mm-hmm.
- It's not his Snapchat.
426
00:17:36,289 --> 00:17:38,456
- Right, and somebody
who knows him could be
427
00:17:38,525 --> 00:17:40,625
impersonating him
talking to poor Dey.
428
00:17:40,693 --> 00:17:42,593
Whoever made that website
429
00:17:42,662 --> 00:17:44,929
about Cody has it out for him.
430
00:17:44,998 --> 00:17:46,064
- I don't know.
431
00:17:46,132 --> 00:17:48,332
This whole thing
just keeps getting murkier,
432
00:17:48,401 --> 00:17:50,701
and stranger, and scarier.
433
00:17:50,770 --> 00:17:52,437
I don't think it's Lena.
434
00:17:52,505 --> 00:17:54,806
I have a feeling
that this is some weird person
435
00:17:54,874 --> 00:17:56,274
on the internet
who has it out for him,
436
00:17:56,342 --> 00:17:59,143
who likes to mess with him,
who's taken it way too far,
437
00:17:59,212 --> 00:18:02,080
and that Dey might have
just gotten caught up in it.
438
00:18:03,817 --> 00:18:05,583
- There she is.
- Good morning.
439
00:18:05,652 --> 00:18:07,585
- Potato chips, want one?
440
00:18:07,654 --> 00:18:09,921
- No, thank you.
441
00:18:09,989 --> 00:18:12,623
- Do I want chips?
- No.
442
00:18:12,692 --> 00:18:14,725
- Kind of, it's a little salty.
443
00:18:14,794 --> 00:18:16,494
- I think you just want
a crunch,
444
00:18:16,563 --> 00:18:19,430
or do you just want
a salty taste?
445
00:18:19,499 --> 00:18:21,265
[upbeat music]
446
00:18:21,334 --> 00:18:25,803
You [bleep] mother [bleep].
447
00:18:25,872 --> 00:18:28,005
Oh, my God.
448
00:18:28,074 --> 00:18:30,842
I was like, "Who bought
these ghetto chips?"
449
00:18:30,910 --> 00:18:32,577
You know what?
I should have known.
450
00:18:32,645 --> 00:18:34,912
- Assault-y snack.
451
00:18:34,981 --> 00:18:36,147
All right, so look.
452
00:18:36,216 --> 00:18:39,117
We know Dey
is not talking to Cody,
453
00:18:39,185 --> 00:18:41,018
unless, of course,
his mom is lying to us,
454
00:18:41,087 --> 00:18:43,354
and it's all
some weird coverup.
455
00:18:43,423 --> 00:18:46,023
- I think we should
reach out to Cody.
456
00:18:46,092 --> 00:18:48,626
- Oh.
- The fake Cody.
457
00:18:49,963 --> 00:18:52,363
I mean let's at least look
at the Saturn [bleep] Films
458
00:18:52,432 --> 00:18:54,232
Snapchat that Dey has been
talking to.
459
00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:56,501
- Cody Danger [bleep]?
460
00:18:56,569 --> 00:18:58,236
- Well, let's see
if Cody Danger [bleep]
461
00:18:58,304 --> 00:19:00,338
comes up anywhere else.
462
00:19:00,406 --> 00:19:03,741
- Isn't that Cody right there?
- I think it could be.
463
00:19:03,810 --> 00:19:05,409
- Cody [bleep] underscore.
464
00:19:05,478 --> 00:19:08,446
- My name is Cody [bleep].
I hate--whoa.
465
00:19:08,515 --> 00:19:10,414
- This is--yes.
466
00:19:10,483 --> 00:19:13,384
This matches the other
weird-ass page about him.
467
00:19:13,453 --> 00:19:15,153
It has all the racist [bleep].
- This is a troll.
468
00:19:15,221 --> 00:19:16,554
- Yeah, super racist.
469
00:19:16,623 --> 00:19:18,589
Wow, they're really trying
to get him in trouble.
470
00:19:18,658 --> 00:19:22,160
- Yeah, writing all these
things as quotes from Cody.
471
00:19:22,228 --> 00:19:24,395
- Yeah,
this is pretty aggressive.
472
00:19:24,464 --> 00:19:26,297
- Clearly, somebody is trying
to get at Cody.
473
00:19:26,366 --> 00:19:27,532
- Yes.
474
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,300
- Unless this is somebody else
who hates him,
475
00:19:29,369 --> 00:19:31,135
and this is not
the same person.
476
00:19:31,204 --> 00:19:34,839
- Okay, so Cody
clearly has an enemy.
477
00:19:34,908 --> 00:19:38,709
- I think that somebody who has
been after Cody for a long time
478
00:19:38,778 --> 00:19:41,479
has been behind the scenes
trying to meddle in his world
479
00:19:41,548 --> 00:19:42,446
and in his life
480
00:19:42,515 --> 00:19:45,316
and somehow knows
his girlfriend's
481
00:19:45,385 --> 00:19:48,019
or ex-girlfriend's number
and decided to give it to Dey
482
00:19:48,087 --> 00:19:49,887
because they knew
that Dey would then text it.
483
00:19:49,956 --> 00:19:52,657
And then that would cause
strife in Cody's relationship.
484
00:19:52,725 --> 00:19:54,692
- Right, but it didn't.
- How do we know?
485
00:19:54,761 --> 00:19:56,427
- 'Cause she texted the number,
and they never responded.
486
00:19:56,496 --> 00:19:57,728
- Yeah, 'cause it was Lena,
and she was like,
487
00:19:57,797 --> 00:19:58,863
"What the [bleep]?"
488
00:19:58,932 --> 00:20:00,364
And she probably sent it
to Cody
489
00:20:00,433 --> 00:20:02,133
and was like, "What is this?"
and then they broke up.
490
00:20:02,202 --> 00:20:04,969
- I don't know.
Something seems wrong.
491
00:20:05,038 --> 00:20:06,537
- Cody has way more enemies.
492
00:20:06,606 --> 00:20:08,806
There's a lot going on
with him behind the scenes.
493
00:20:08,875 --> 00:20:10,808
- All right, let's text her.
494
00:20:10,877 --> 00:20:14,812
- We got something for you.
495
00:20:14,881 --> 00:20:16,414
[computer chimes]
- Oh.
496
00:20:16,482 --> 00:20:19,083
Hi.
- Hi, how are you?
497
00:20:19,152 --> 00:20:22,687
- What's up?
- Not much, just anxious.
498
00:20:22,755 --> 00:20:24,822
I'm excited and nervous.
499
00:20:24,891 --> 00:20:27,892
- We're nervous as well.
- Really?
500
00:20:27,961 --> 00:20:29,627
That doesn't sound good.
501
00:20:29,696 --> 00:20:31,829
- Let us walk you through the
sort of path that we went down.
502
00:20:31,898 --> 00:20:33,397
- Okay.
503
00:20:33,466 --> 00:20:37,368
- All right, so we went to his
Instagram, and obviously,
504
00:20:37,437 --> 00:20:39,170
there's this girl,
and I think you already know--
505
00:20:39,239 --> 00:20:40,338
- Yeah.
- This girl.
506
00:20:40,406 --> 00:20:41,872
- Yeah, his ex-girlfriend.
507
00:20:41,941 --> 00:20:43,908
- Right. This is Lena.
- Yeah.
508
00:20:43,977 --> 00:20:46,611
- You said that they broke up
sometime, I guess,
509
00:20:46,679 --> 00:20:47,878
at the top of the year,
510
00:20:47,947 --> 00:20:49,981
but he's been
posting her a lot.
511
00:20:50,049 --> 00:20:52,183
- Like, after they broke up,
yeah.
512
00:20:52,252 --> 00:20:55,086
- Well, he posted this video--
- Yeah.
513
00:20:55,154 --> 00:20:56,387
- On the day
after Valentine's Day.
514
00:20:56,456 --> 00:20:59,156
Have you watched this video?
- I don't think so.
515
00:20:59,225 --> 00:21:01,058
- As of Valentine's Day
this year,
516
00:21:01,127 --> 00:21:02,360
they were very much together.
517
00:21:02,428 --> 00:21:04,495
- And he says in the video
"my girlfriend."
518
00:21:04,564 --> 00:21:06,731
- But this is on his Instagram.
You follow it.
519
00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:08,499
Like, he wasn't
hiding this from you.
520
00:21:08,568 --> 00:21:11,602
- No he wasn't,
but most of like--when
521
00:21:11,671 --> 00:21:13,904
I ask him about pictures or,
like, anything
522
00:21:13,973 --> 00:21:15,339
about his ex-girlfriend,
523
00:21:15,408 --> 00:21:17,375
he says
that they're old photos.
524
00:21:17,443 --> 00:21:20,711
But I mean seeing this and then
the February 14th?
525
00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:22,079
Yeah.
526
00:21:22,148 --> 00:21:23,514
- Well, before you put too much
into this,
527
00:21:23,583 --> 00:21:25,449
we're not even sure
you're talking to this guy.
528
00:21:25,518 --> 00:21:26,350
- Okay.
529
00:21:26,419 --> 00:21:27,385
- So here's where it gets
weird.
530
00:21:27,453 --> 00:21:28,953
When we ran the phone number
531
00:21:29,022 --> 00:21:32,890
that Cody gave you,
it came up registered to Lena.
532
00:21:32,959 --> 00:21:35,393
- What?
- Cody's ex.
533
00:21:35,461 --> 00:21:38,562
- So could she be the one
that's, like, texting me?
534
00:21:38,631 --> 00:21:41,432
- We started trying to figure
out how that would make sense.
535
00:21:41,501 --> 00:21:43,267
You haven't had any interaction
with her, have you?
536
00:21:43,336 --> 00:21:46,437
- No, never.
We have never spoken, never.
537
00:21:46,506 --> 00:21:48,873
- 'Cause maybe she and Cody
were breaking up,
538
00:21:48,941 --> 00:21:51,709
and she saw that Cody and you
were friends, and she was like,
539
00:21:51,778 --> 00:21:53,978
"Oh, this girl's, you know,
messing with my man.
540
00:21:54,047 --> 00:21:55,913
I'm gonna mess with her."
541
00:21:55,982 --> 00:21:57,381
- Oh, my gosh.
542
00:21:57,450 --> 00:21:59,216
- But then it doesn't
make sense either
543
00:21:59,285 --> 00:22:01,385
because you added the Snapchat.
544
00:22:01,454 --> 00:22:02,820
It's not like they added you.
- Yeah.
545
00:22:02,889 --> 00:22:04,021
- Right.
- Or found you.
546
00:22:04,090 --> 00:22:05,389
- Yeah.
547
00:22:05,458 --> 00:22:06,757
- And they've been nothing
but nice to you.
548
00:22:06,826 --> 00:22:09,460
- Yeah, that's very confusing.
That makes no sense.
549
00:22:09,529 --> 00:22:11,062
- It doesn't make any sense.
550
00:22:11,130 --> 00:22:12,930
We then continued
and found his mom.
551
00:22:12,999 --> 00:22:14,265
- Yeah.
552
00:22:14,334 --> 00:22:16,834
- So we were like, "Okay.
Let's talk to the mom.
553
00:22:16,903 --> 00:22:19,170
Maybe she can help
make some sense out of this."
554
00:22:19,238 --> 00:22:21,539
She called us.
- She did?
555
00:22:21,607 --> 00:22:22,707
- And I said, "Okay,
well, here's what's up.
556
00:22:22,775 --> 00:22:24,275
"We're trying
to help this girl.
557
00:22:24,344 --> 00:22:26,277
"She says she's been talking
to your son.
558
00:22:26,346 --> 00:22:28,079
Is your son
in a relationship?"
559
00:22:28,147 --> 00:22:29,580
And she said,
as far as she knew--
560
00:22:29,649 --> 00:22:31,482
- He was not in a relationship.
- Right.
561
00:22:31,551 --> 00:22:34,018
- But she said he does have
someone that he's talking to.
562
00:22:34,087 --> 00:22:35,553
- Oh.
563
00:22:35,621 --> 00:22:38,456
- And so I said, "Is his
Snapchat Saturn [bleep] Films?"
564
00:22:38,524 --> 00:22:41,926
And she said, "No, that's not
the Snapchat I have for him."
565
00:22:41,994 --> 00:22:45,262
- Really?
566
00:22:45,331 --> 00:22:47,064
- But obviously, at that
moment, we got concerned.
567
00:22:47,133 --> 00:22:48,299
- Mm-hmm.
568
00:22:48,368 --> 00:22:49,734
- If that's not his
Snapchat account,
569
00:22:49,802 --> 00:22:51,268
who are you talking to?
570
00:22:51,337 --> 00:22:54,572
- Yeah.
That's the big question.
571
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,874
- The next thing we did
was just a Google search
572
00:22:56,943 --> 00:22:58,376
for Saturn [bleep] Films,
573
00:22:58,444 --> 00:23:03,347
and it took us to something
called Encyclopedia Pwned.
574
00:23:03,416 --> 00:23:05,416
Have you ever heard of that?
- No.
575
00:23:05,485 --> 00:23:06,584
- So if you read this,
it says,
576
00:23:06,652 --> 00:23:08,919
"Saturn [bleep] Films,
AKA Cody [bleep],
577
00:23:08,988 --> 00:23:11,622
"is a god-awful filmmaker
and an even worse vlogger
578
00:23:11,691 --> 00:23:13,991
"who believes
that greed is good.
579
00:23:14,060 --> 00:23:16,961
Like every other atheist,
he's a [bleep] apologist."
580
00:23:17,029 --> 00:23:18,362
- Wow.
581
00:23:18,431 --> 00:23:21,665
- I mean it's just a lot
of trash talk about Cody.
582
00:23:21,734 --> 00:23:22,833
- Wow.
583
00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:26,070
- So then today we went back
to the Snapchat
584
00:23:26,139 --> 00:23:27,638
that you gave us
for Saturn [bleep] Films.
585
00:23:27,707 --> 00:23:28,906
- Oh, right.
586
00:23:28,975 --> 00:23:32,510
- His name on Snapchat says,
"Cody Danger [bleep]."
587
00:23:32,578 --> 00:23:34,545
And so we were like,
"Oh, let's search that,
588
00:23:34,614 --> 00:23:36,781
and see if anything comes up,"
and it did.
589
00:23:36,849 --> 00:23:40,317
- It brings up a super racist
Twitter page.
590
00:23:40,386 --> 00:23:41,252
- What?
- You can read this.
591
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,787
- Wow.
592
00:23:42,855 --> 00:23:45,189
- Obviously, we don't think
that this is the real Cody.
593
00:23:45,258 --> 00:23:47,958
Someone impersonating Cody
made this Twitter in his name.
594
00:23:48,027 --> 00:23:49,360
- To try to get him in trouble.
595
00:23:49,429 --> 00:23:51,195
- Yes, and then used the
hashtag "Black Lives Matter."
596
00:23:51,264 --> 00:23:52,763
- Well, right.
- Like, the audacity.
597
00:23:52,832 --> 00:23:55,733
- Well, and to then
credit the tweet to him.
598
00:23:55,802 --> 00:23:56,934
- Wow.
599
00:23:57,003 --> 00:23:58,669
- And hashtag it so that
it would show up
600
00:23:58,738 --> 00:24:01,405
in trending topics
for Black Lives Matter,
601
00:24:01,474 --> 00:24:03,941
clearly trying
to start controversy
602
00:24:04,010 --> 00:24:05,943
and create a problem for Cody.
603
00:24:06,012 --> 00:24:07,845
- That's insane, yeah.
604
00:24:07,914 --> 00:24:10,047
- Coming off
of the Encyclopedia Pwned
605
00:24:10,116 --> 00:24:11,916
and then seeing this,
it became clear to us
606
00:24:11,984 --> 00:24:14,552
that obviously there is someone
who really doesn't like Cody.
607
00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:16,287
- Right, but why would
they--like,
608
00:24:16,355 --> 00:24:18,589
that's such an obsession.
609
00:24:18,658 --> 00:24:21,759
He tells me that a lot
of people don't like him
610
00:24:21,828 --> 00:24:23,494
but never really why or,
611
00:24:23,563 --> 00:24:26,430
like, what he's done
on his part, you know?
612
00:24:26,499 --> 00:24:27,865
- Mm-hmm.
- I don't know.
613
00:24:27,934 --> 00:24:30,968
I feel super confused.
My heart's pounding.
614
00:24:31,037 --> 00:24:33,604
Like, I'm so overwhelmed.
615
00:24:33,673 --> 00:24:35,773
There's just so much going on,
616
00:24:35,842 --> 00:24:39,276
and if it's not him,
like, who is it?
617
00:24:39,345 --> 00:24:40,644
- What concerns me is the fact
618
00:24:40,713 --> 00:24:43,013
that you have been talking
to this person
619
00:24:43,082 --> 00:24:45,950
and sharing deep things
about your personal life
620
00:24:46,018 --> 00:24:47,785
and the things
that you're going through.
621
00:24:47,854 --> 00:24:50,321
- Very deep things, yeah.
- Very deep things.
622
00:24:50,389 --> 00:24:52,156
- And very personal, mm-hmm.
623
00:24:52,225 --> 00:24:55,426
- And who the [bleep]--if
you're [bleep] with someone,
624
00:24:55,495 --> 00:24:57,394
who does that?
625
00:24:57,463 --> 00:25:02,500
- Right, yeah.
That's really messed up.
626
00:25:02,568 --> 00:25:05,970
Right now, honestly,
I feel like this person, to me,
627
00:25:06,038 --> 00:25:10,374
is just, like, a stranger.
628
00:25:10,443 --> 00:25:11,709
It's just like now
629
00:25:11,777 --> 00:25:14,645
I just feel like there's
a good possibility of Cody
630
00:25:14,714 --> 00:25:16,747
not being the person
that I was talking to.
631
00:25:16,816 --> 00:25:19,316
- ♪ It'll never be the same ♪
632
00:25:19,385 --> 00:25:22,386
- The hate websites,
the Twitter,
633
00:25:22,455 --> 00:25:26,657
and then that language,
it's insane.
634
00:25:26,726 --> 00:25:29,460
Who am I talking to?
Who is he?
635
00:25:29,529 --> 00:25:34,765
- ♪ I gave you all
my love to date ♪
636
00:25:34,834 --> 00:25:40,437
- So I'm scared and upset,
just really confused.
637
00:25:40,506 --> 00:25:43,541
- ♪ Reaching for a hand
to hold ♪
638
00:25:43,609 --> 00:25:47,077
♪ From a wild animal ♪
639
00:25:47,146 --> 00:25:50,514
- Are you still feeling hopeful
that it could be the real Cody?
640
00:25:50,583 --> 00:25:53,250
- Honestly, at this point, no.
641
00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:55,886
- ♪ Antidote, antidote ♪
642
00:25:55,955 --> 00:25:58,522
- I just feel like somebody's
messing with me.
643
00:25:58,591 --> 00:26:00,658
- ♪ Antidote ♪
644
00:26:00,726 --> 00:26:02,660
- How you doing?
How you feeling?
645
00:26:02,728 --> 00:26:05,863
- It's just like now I feel
like the possibility of Cody
646
00:26:05,932 --> 00:26:08,232
not being the person
that I was talking to is,
647
00:26:08,301 --> 00:26:09,700
like, setting in, you know?
648
00:26:09,769 --> 00:26:12,469
But I still want to know
who it is I'm talking to,
649
00:26:12,538 --> 00:26:14,505
even if it's not him.
650
00:26:14,574 --> 00:26:16,607
- So if this is not
the real Cody,
651
00:26:16,676 --> 00:26:21,078
you're still willing to keep a
relationship with this person?
652
00:26:21,147 --> 00:26:23,514
- I mean, I'm not sure
about a relationship,
653
00:26:23,583 --> 00:26:27,284
just because making me believe
that you're Cody,
654
00:26:27,353 --> 00:26:30,054
you know, for this long,
that's a huge lie,
655
00:26:30,122 --> 00:26:33,490
but I at least want to know
what their intentions were.
656
00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:36,927
Like, what did they
get out of this?
657
00:26:36,996 --> 00:26:41,165
But I feel like I should
tell you guys something.
658
00:26:41,233 --> 00:26:42,600
- Oh, God.
659
00:26:42,668 --> 00:26:47,705
- Earlier this year in January,
I got married.
660
00:26:47,773 --> 00:26:50,341
- Oh.
- Are you married?
661
00:26:50,409 --> 00:26:51,742
- I'm currently married,
662
00:26:51,811 --> 00:26:55,412
but I'm in the process
of getting a divorce.
663
00:26:55,481 --> 00:26:57,314
It was super rushed.
664
00:26:57,383 --> 00:26:58,582
It was with somebody
665
00:26:58,651 --> 00:27:01,685
that I'd only been dating
for about four months.
666
00:27:01,754 --> 00:27:06,790
- Okay, and does Cody
know about all this?
667
00:27:06,859 --> 00:27:09,827
- No.
668
00:27:09,895 --> 00:27:11,462
- Dey.
669
00:27:11,530 --> 00:27:13,731
- So but you were talking
to Cody very much
670
00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:15,599
while you had
just been married, and--
671
00:27:15,668 --> 00:27:17,434
- Yeah, so right
after I got married,
672
00:27:17,503 --> 00:27:20,838
I knew
that I had made a mistake.
673
00:27:20,906 --> 00:27:22,906
So now, we're in the process
of getting a divorce,
674
00:27:22,975 --> 00:27:25,242
and we have been for since,
like, March,
675
00:27:25,311 --> 00:27:26,510
so it wasn't that long.
676
00:27:26,579 --> 00:27:28,846
Like, right when I started
talking to Cody,
677
00:27:28,914 --> 00:27:31,649
I had already terminated
my marriage.
678
00:27:31,717 --> 00:27:34,518
Like, he doesn't know,
but, like, he was there
679
00:27:34,587 --> 00:27:37,121
when I was just, like,
going through that [bleep],
680
00:27:37,189 --> 00:27:39,256
and I wanted to tell him.
681
00:27:39,325 --> 00:27:44,995
But now, I feel like I have
no clue who this person is.
682
00:27:45,064 --> 00:27:47,965
- I can understand your--
I don't know if it's guilt
683
00:27:48,034 --> 00:27:52,336
or concern about having
not told Cody this.
684
00:27:52,405 --> 00:27:53,837
- Yeah.
685
00:27:53,906 --> 00:27:56,106
- Well, thank you for being
honest with us about it.
686
00:27:56,175 --> 00:27:58,475
I get why that would
be weighing on you,
687
00:27:58,544 --> 00:27:59,943
but at the same time,
688
00:28:00,012 --> 00:28:02,980
I don't think that it negates
all the other things
689
00:28:03,049 --> 00:28:06,150
that this person hasn't been
telling you potentially.
690
00:28:06,218 --> 00:28:07,317
- Right.
691
00:28:07,386 --> 00:28:08,686
- I just have a feeling
692
00:28:08,754 --> 00:28:10,921
that their secret
is way bigger.
693
00:28:10,990 --> 00:28:13,557
- Yeah.
- All right.
694
00:28:13,626 --> 00:28:15,426
Well, look, it feels to me,
and I think to us,
695
00:28:15,494 --> 00:28:19,063
that the only person
or account
696
00:28:19,131 --> 00:28:22,332
that we know is
communicating with you
697
00:28:22,401 --> 00:28:25,335
is the Snapchat account
that you've been messaging with
698
00:28:25,404 --> 00:28:26,837
since the beginning
of the year.
699
00:28:26,906 --> 00:28:29,373
So whether that's Cody,
or someone else,
700
00:28:29,442 --> 00:28:31,408
or a combination of both,
701
00:28:31,477 --> 00:28:35,145
that's who we need
to get to talk to us,
702
00:28:35,214 --> 00:28:38,415
and hopefully explain,
and reveal all of this.
703
00:28:38,484 --> 00:28:41,452
- Yeah.
- So we need to message them.
704
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,487
- I'm worried
that if we contact,
705
00:28:43,556 --> 00:28:44,755
they're gonna be like,
706
00:28:44,824 --> 00:28:46,323
"I don't know why
you're contacting me,"
707
00:28:46,392 --> 00:28:47,691
or just not even respond.
708
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,060
But because you guys have such,
like, a deeper--
709
00:28:50,129 --> 00:28:53,230
- I mean I can try to do it,
yeah.
710
00:28:53,299 --> 00:28:55,232
Okay.
711
00:28:55,301 --> 00:28:56,600
Okay, okay.
712
00:28:56,669 --> 00:28:58,168
- All right, something like,
713
00:28:58,237 --> 00:29:02,139
"Hey, I know when we spoke
about meeting on 'Catfish,'
714
00:29:02,208 --> 00:29:04,541
"you didn't seem
super into it,
715
00:29:04,610 --> 00:29:06,977
"but you mean a lot to me,
716
00:29:07,046 --> 00:29:11,515
and our relationship's
really important."
717
00:29:11,584 --> 00:29:14,885
- And then should I say,
like, "Nev and Kamie"...
718
00:29:14,954 --> 00:29:17,554
- You can say,
"Just want to help us,
719
00:29:17,623 --> 00:29:21,625
but have found some--"
I don't want to say info
720
00:29:21,694 --> 00:29:23,961
or concerning--
721
00:29:24,029 --> 00:29:25,529
- Some strange?
- Some strange...
722
00:29:25,598 --> 00:29:29,500
- Some strange.
- Things that have me--
723
00:29:29,568 --> 00:29:32,569
- A little confused.
- Right.
724
00:29:32,638 --> 00:29:34,671
And now, I think
you should also say,
725
00:29:34,740 --> 00:29:38,909
"I also have something
I need to tell you."
726
00:29:38,978 --> 00:29:40,878
I think if you extend
that olive branch
727
00:29:40,946 --> 00:29:42,379
that you also feel like
728
00:29:42,448 --> 00:29:44,481
there's something that you
haven't been honest about...
729
00:29:44,550 --> 00:29:45,983
- Yeah.
730
00:29:46,051 --> 00:29:48,118
- That might both
pique his interest
731
00:29:48,187 --> 00:29:54,024
and make him feel less nervous
about telling you something.
732
00:29:54,093 --> 00:29:56,894
- I have something I need
to tell you.
733
00:29:56,962 --> 00:29:59,563
- At the end, just say,
"We are in a Zoom right now
734
00:29:59,632 --> 00:30:02,900
and would love
for you to join."
735
00:30:02,968 --> 00:30:05,502
- I sent it.
- I think it's great.
736
00:30:05,571 --> 00:30:07,004
- I think it's good.
- Yeah.
737
00:30:07,072 --> 00:30:09,640
- It was good.
All right, let's just see.
738
00:30:09,708 --> 00:30:12,810
- Oh, I'm so nervous.
739
00:30:12,878 --> 00:30:14,711
What if he doesn't respond?
740
00:30:14,780 --> 00:30:18,015
- Well, I mean, if he sees it
and then doesn't respond,
741
00:30:18,083 --> 00:30:21,819
that is sort of a response,
I guess.
742
00:30:21,887 --> 00:30:24,688
- Oh, he's seen it.
- Okay, he saw it.
743
00:30:24,757 --> 00:30:28,091
- Oh, my God.
- I'm so scared.
744
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,426
- The face there.
Does that mean he's, like,
745
00:30:29,495 --> 00:30:30,961
looking at it right now,
or is it that he just saw it?
746
00:30:31,030 --> 00:30:35,465
- No. He's on it.
- Yeah.
747
00:30:35,534 --> 00:30:37,901
- Oh, my God, he left.
748
00:30:37,970 --> 00:30:42,306
- No!
- He didn't say anything.
749
00:30:42,374 --> 00:30:44,007
- Where's my anxiety dog?
750
00:30:44,076 --> 00:30:47,377
Biggie, you're supposed
to be helpful.
751
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,714
- Oh, oh, oh, he's typing.
He's typing.
752
00:30:50,783 --> 00:30:52,216
- Oh, my God.
753
00:30:56,455 --> 00:30:58,422
- He's in here,
so we have to give it to him.
754
00:30:58,490 --> 00:31:00,157
- So say yeah.
- Okay.
755
00:31:00,226 --> 00:31:02,125
- And then just say,
"The room code is..."
756
00:31:03,829 --> 00:31:06,296
- Oh, my gosh.
757
00:31:06,365 --> 00:31:09,533
- Are you okay?
- Yeah, I'm just so nervous.
758
00:31:09,602 --> 00:31:10,901
He's not just gonna
pop up, right?
759
00:31:10,970 --> 00:31:12,536
Or will he just pop up?
760
00:31:12,605 --> 00:31:16,240
- He might.
- Oh, my God.
761
00:31:17,243 --> 00:31:19,543
[computer chimes]
762
00:31:19,612 --> 00:31:20,811
Oh, my God.
763
00:31:21,914 --> 00:31:22,779
- He's just gonna pop up?
- Yeah.
764
00:31:22,848 --> 00:31:25,449
- I'm so nervous.
765
00:31:25,517 --> 00:31:27,718
[gasps]
766
00:31:27,786 --> 00:31:30,153
[computer chimes]
Oh, my God.
767
00:31:30,222 --> 00:31:31,555
- Hey.
768
00:31:31,624 --> 00:31:34,858
- Hi! Oh, my God.
769
00:31:34,927 --> 00:31:37,461
- What's up?
What's up, girl?
770
00:31:37,529 --> 00:31:39,296
- Oh, my God.
771
00:31:39,365 --> 00:31:40,564
- How's it going?
772
00:31:40,633 --> 00:31:42,599
- I don't know.
You tell us.
773
00:31:42,668 --> 00:31:44,801
We're all very confused
right now.
774
00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:46,203
- Oh, my God.
775
00:31:46,272 --> 00:31:48,272
- Can you just give me
a second here?
776
00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:49,773
[exhales deeply]
777
00:31:49,842 --> 00:31:51,508
You're gorgeous.
778
00:31:51,577 --> 00:31:53,677
- Thank you.
- [laughs]
779
00:31:53,746 --> 00:31:56,546
- Well, you are too.
- Oh, my God.
780
00:31:56,615 --> 00:31:57,814
- Can we just clear up
a couple things?
781
00:31:57,883 --> 00:31:59,449
Because we're just confused.
782
00:31:59,518 --> 00:32:01,985
Why did it take so long
for you guys to video chat?
783
00:32:02,054 --> 00:32:03,787
You put yourself on camera
all the time.
784
00:32:03,856 --> 00:32:07,190
- Right, but I'm in control
of that camera,
785
00:32:07,259 --> 00:32:11,695
and all my little slipups
and mess ups are easily fixed
786
00:32:11,764 --> 00:32:13,196
when I'm doing it,
787
00:32:13,265 --> 00:32:15,766
and the anxiety that I get
talking to somebody for so long
788
00:32:15,834 --> 00:32:17,434
is so much more intense.
789
00:32:17,503 --> 00:32:19,670
You know, it gets worse,
and worse, and worse
790
00:32:19,738 --> 00:32:21,271
the longer you don't do it,
791
00:32:21,340 --> 00:32:23,006
and it becomes harder,
and harder, and harder.
792
00:32:23,075 --> 00:32:24,908
- So you were concerned
793
00:32:24,977 --> 00:32:30,781
that she wouldn't be into
the unedited version of you?
794
00:32:30,849 --> 00:32:33,483
- Yes, I get into my own head
too much,
795
00:32:33,552 --> 00:32:36,987
and it just--it freaks me out
that I'm gonna disappoint her.
796
00:32:37,056 --> 00:32:39,156
I have such a fear
of losing her
797
00:32:39,224 --> 00:32:43,827
that I back off
on advancing the relationship
798
00:32:43,896 --> 00:32:48,498
because I don't want
to lose that.
799
00:32:48,567 --> 00:32:49,900
I need that in my life.
800
00:32:49,969 --> 00:32:52,002
- But didn't you think
that avoiding meeting
801
00:32:52,071 --> 00:32:55,872
would have eventually have
lost you this relationship?
802
00:32:55,941 --> 00:32:57,474
- When you say it like that,
I guess so,
803
00:32:57,543 --> 00:33:00,377
but I never really thought
about it like that.
804
00:33:00,446 --> 00:33:03,981
I think sometimes my head
hasn't been in the right place
805
00:33:04,049 --> 00:33:06,917
to even consider things
objectively.
806
00:33:06,986 --> 00:33:08,885
I don't really know
how to answer that.
807
00:33:08,954 --> 00:33:11,722
- Okay, but obviously,
it was confusing for us.
808
00:33:11,790 --> 00:33:15,425
I'm sure you know we found some
strange stuff on the internet.
809
00:33:15,494 --> 00:33:16,927
- I'm sure you did.
810
00:33:16,996 --> 00:33:18,996
- That people have posted
making you seem
811
00:33:19,064 --> 00:33:20,297
like a terrible person.
812
00:33:20,366 --> 00:33:23,266
We found a fake Twitter account
where--you know,
813
00:33:23,335 --> 00:33:26,336
making you look like
a totally racist asshole.
814
00:33:26,405 --> 00:33:28,705
And we were afraid
one of those trolls
815
00:33:28,774 --> 00:33:30,340
was the person talking today.
816
00:33:30,409 --> 00:33:32,075
And it doesn't help
that we spoke to your mom,
817
00:33:32,144 --> 00:33:34,111
and she told us,
as far as she knows,
818
00:33:34,179 --> 00:33:35,779
Saturn [bleep] Films
is not your Snapchat.
819
00:33:35,848 --> 00:33:37,147
We're just confused.
820
00:33:37,216 --> 00:33:39,316
- Back in, like,
my early days, like,
821
00:33:39,385 --> 00:33:41,385
when I was a teenager,
the content
822
00:33:41,453 --> 00:33:44,821
that was popular were people
that ranted to a camera.
823
00:33:44,890 --> 00:33:47,724
So I would talk
about my political
824
00:33:47,793 --> 00:33:50,193
or my religious beliefs
on camera.
825
00:33:50,262 --> 00:33:52,195
And what started happening
would be
826
00:33:52,264 --> 00:33:54,998
people would take my clips,
and download them,
827
00:33:55,067 --> 00:33:56,833
and then rearrange them
to make it sound
828
00:33:56,902 --> 00:33:59,503
like I was saying things
that I wasn't.
829
00:33:59,571 --> 00:34:01,104
people were making
Andfake accounts about meow,
830
00:34:01,173 --> 00:34:03,006
on various different websites.
831
00:34:03,075 --> 00:34:06,410
So the whole thing with my mom
is when stuff
832
00:34:06,478 --> 00:34:08,945
like that started to happen,
I would get really sensitive,
833
00:34:09,014 --> 00:34:10,914
and it messed with
my mental health really bad.
834
00:34:10,983 --> 00:34:13,116
So when you guys reach out,
835
00:34:13,185 --> 00:34:15,852
my mom is not gonna
give you my information,
836
00:34:15,921 --> 00:34:17,554
because she's seen
how much stuff
837
00:34:17,623 --> 00:34:18,955
like that has affected me.
838
00:34:19,024 --> 00:34:21,725
- You gave Dey a phone number.
839
00:34:21,794 --> 00:34:24,094
Why does that phone number
come back
840
00:34:24,163 --> 00:34:26,029
to your ex-girlfriend Lena?
841
00:34:26,098 --> 00:34:29,066
- My ex and I are
on pretty friendly terms,
842
00:34:29,134 --> 00:34:30,867
and we're on the same line
843
00:34:30,936 --> 00:34:32,536
because it makes both
of our bills cheaper.
844
00:34:32,604 --> 00:34:34,104
- So you got it as part
of a group plan
845
00:34:34,173 --> 00:34:36,907
with your then girlfriend?
846
00:34:36,975 --> 00:34:39,042
- Well, it's kind of hard
to even say what we were.
847
00:34:39,111 --> 00:34:40,744
We were so on-again, off-again.
848
00:34:40,813 --> 00:34:44,114
- When did you split for real?
- February sometime.
849
00:34:44,183 --> 00:34:46,483
I'd say, like, maybe a little
after Valentine's
850
00:34:46,552 --> 00:34:48,552
is when it was finally,
like, kaput.
851
00:34:48,620 --> 00:34:51,154
- 'Cause you posted a lot of
pictures of her since then.
852
00:34:51,223 --> 00:34:52,355
- 'Cause we're still friendly,
853
00:34:52,424 --> 00:34:54,024
and she's one
of my main models.
854
00:34:54,093 --> 00:34:55,158
- So that's it?
855
00:34:55,227 --> 00:34:56,560
You weren't lying
about anything?
856
00:34:56,628 --> 00:35:01,064
Is there anything else
that Dey should know?
857
00:35:01,133 --> 00:35:02,766
- Just that I'm sorry.
858
00:35:02,835 --> 00:35:04,835
I realize a lot of this
could have been cleared up,
859
00:35:04,903 --> 00:35:07,003
and I kind of feel
like a big wuss now.
860
00:35:07,072 --> 00:35:10,474
She's so beautiful.
She's so fun to talk to.
861
00:35:10,542 --> 00:35:12,375
She's eloquent.
She's interesting.
862
00:35:12,444 --> 00:35:13,510
She's artistic.
863
00:35:13,579 --> 00:35:16,279
I have, like,
intense feelings for her.
864
00:35:16,348 --> 00:35:18,215
- Oh, my God.
865
00:35:18,283 --> 00:35:20,417
- Do you mind, Cody,
if we check in with Dey
866
00:35:20,486 --> 00:35:22,919
for a second,
and we'll reconvene?
867
00:35:22,988 --> 00:35:24,454
- Okay, that sounds good.
868
00:35:24,523 --> 00:35:25,555
- All right,
we'll see you in a minute.
869
00:35:25,624 --> 00:35:26,556
- All right.
870
00:35:26,625 --> 00:35:27,891
- Damn, Dey.
871
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,760
- Oh, my God.
I can't believe he's real.
872
00:35:30,829 --> 00:35:32,062
- I can't believe
you were right.
873
00:35:32,131 --> 00:35:34,397
- Now we finally talk
to the guy.
874
00:35:34,466 --> 00:35:35,398
- Yeah.
875
00:35:35,467 --> 00:35:36,566
- You've now heard all
of this.
876
00:35:37,803 --> 00:35:40,437
I mean, what was your first
sort of gut reaction
877
00:35:40,506 --> 00:35:43,573
to interacting
with him in person?
878
00:35:43,642 --> 00:35:45,275
- I'm so happy.
879
00:35:45,344 --> 00:35:47,911
- So this is a full steam ahead
green light,
880
00:35:47,980 --> 00:35:48,912
you want to make this happen?
881
00:35:48,981 --> 00:35:50,580
- I definitely want to, yeah.
882
00:35:50,649 --> 00:35:54,751
- Great, I'm excited for you,
but I also think now is
883
00:35:54,820 --> 00:35:58,321
the moment for you to tell him
that you were married.
884
00:35:58,390 --> 00:36:00,590
It's impossible to tell
how he's gonna react,
885
00:36:00,659 --> 00:36:03,760
especially since he didn't
really lie about stuff,
886
00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:07,330
but it's only gonna get harder
to tell him if you wait.
887
00:36:07,399 --> 00:36:09,933
- Okay.
- I'm gonna bring him back in.
888
00:36:10,002 --> 00:36:11,801
- Okay.
889
00:36:11,870 --> 00:36:13,069
- Hey, what's going on?
890
00:36:13,138 --> 00:36:18,508
- Yeah, so...
891
00:36:18,577 --> 00:36:24,214
okay, so I do have something
I want to tell you.
892
00:36:24,283 --> 00:36:28,285
This past year,
I was seeing somebody,
893
00:36:28,353 --> 00:36:31,321
and in January,
he proposed to me.
894
00:36:31,390 --> 00:36:33,290
- Whoa.
895
00:36:33,358 --> 00:36:35,859
- And then we were married
within, like, a week.
896
00:36:35,928 --> 00:36:37,260
- Wait, what?
897
00:36:37,329 --> 00:36:39,763
- And immediately,
I regretted it.
898
00:36:39,831 --> 00:36:43,166
We're getting a divorce
already, but it happened.
899
00:36:43,235 --> 00:36:47,170
- That's a lot to take in,
like, all at once.
900
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,873
[tense music]
901
00:36:49,942 --> 00:36:52,842
Huh.
902
00:36:52,911 --> 00:36:56,613
Well, that--it does
hurt my feelings.
903
00:36:56,682 --> 00:36:59,683
I'm not gonna lie.
904
00:36:59,751 --> 00:37:01,218
I wish you would have
told me that.
905
00:37:01,286 --> 00:37:03,153
I understand
why you wouldn't want to,
906
00:37:03,222 --> 00:37:06,456
but I wish you would have.
907
00:37:06,525 --> 00:37:07,924
Yeah.
908
00:37:07,993 --> 00:37:12,629
Can I have a second just to,
like, process that in my brain?
909
00:37:12,698 --> 00:37:13,763
- Sure.
910
00:37:16,702 --> 00:37:18,368
- Oh, my God.
911
00:37:20,072 --> 00:37:21,871
- Can I have a second just to,
like, process that in my brain?
912
00:37:24,042 --> 00:37:25,742
- Oh, my God.
913
00:37:27,512 --> 00:37:28,712
- Here's the thing.
914
00:37:28,780 --> 00:37:33,416
This is a part
of not communicating properly
915
00:37:33,485 --> 00:37:35,452
and actually meeting in person
916
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,554
because when you don't do that,
917
00:37:37,623 --> 00:37:40,090
and it has been so long--it's
been over a decade.
918
00:37:40,158 --> 00:37:42,859
The thing about spending
years apart from someone
919
00:37:42,928 --> 00:37:44,227
that you have
never met in person,
920
00:37:44,296 --> 00:37:47,030
and you guys live in two
completely different places
921
00:37:47,099 --> 00:37:51,501
is that you're fully in
the right to live your life.
922
00:37:51,570 --> 00:37:56,072
[tense music]
923
00:38:00,479 --> 00:38:01,745
- I...
924
00:38:01,813 --> 00:38:03,580
I'm not mad at you,
like, at all.
925
00:38:03,649 --> 00:38:04,981
I understand.
926
00:38:05,050 --> 00:38:08,184
I've been a compulsive
person myself in the past.
927
00:38:08,253 --> 00:38:09,619
I'm not judging.
928
00:38:09,688 --> 00:38:12,789
I'd like to believe I know
how your brain operates
929
00:38:12,858 --> 00:38:14,791
due to the way we've talked.
930
00:38:15,994 --> 00:38:17,260
- And that sounds like
something I could have
931
00:38:17,329 --> 00:38:21,765
totally done myself, so...
932
00:38:21,833 --> 00:38:25,135
I don't have the ability
to judge you.
933
00:38:25,203 --> 00:38:29,139
- Do you see, now, why
I always just, like, hang on?
934
00:38:29,207 --> 00:38:30,573
He says things and I'm like,
935
00:38:30,642 --> 00:38:32,742
"Okay, thank you
for understanding me."
936
00:38:32,811 --> 00:38:35,045
- Well, so how are we gonna
make this work?
937
00:38:35,113 --> 00:38:36,212
Do you want this?
938
00:38:36,281 --> 00:38:38,615
- I absolutely do.
939
00:38:38,684 --> 00:38:41,384
It feels like I've already
squandered an opportunity
940
00:38:41,453 --> 00:38:42,519
for a long time.
941
00:38:42,587 --> 00:38:45,322
I don't want
to keep doing that.
942
00:38:45,390 --> 00:38:47,223
- We just have to meet
and then,
943
00:38:47,292 --> 00:38:50,093
you know, it'll work out.
944
00:38:50,162 --> 00:38:51,394
- I feel angry with myself
945
00:38:51,463 --> 00:38:53,229
because I'm already
more comfortable
946
00:38:53,298 --> 00:38:54,698
with talking to you here,
947
00:38:54,766 --> 00:38:56,599
and I just couldn't do it.
948
00:38:56,668 --> 00:38:58,468
I don't know why.
949
00:38:58,537 --> 00:39:00,036
- You know what
my therapist says?
950
00:39:00,105 --> 00:39:01,838
She says we can't be worried
about the past.
951
00:39:01,907 --> 00:39:04,207
All we can worry about is how
we're going to move forward,
952
00:39:04,276 --> 00:39:09,012
so beating up on yourself about
the past however many years
953
00:39:09,081 --> 00:39:12,382
is not going to get us
where we need to go.
954
00:39:12,451 --> 00:39:16,419
- I'm really happy.
- I'm glad.
955
00:39:16,488 --> 00:39:18,922
I'm sorry
for not doing it sooner.
956
00:39:18,990 --> 00:39:20,423
- It's okay.
957
00:39:20,492 --> 00:39:22,359
- My anxiety is going down
a little bit,
958
00:39:22,427 --> 00:39:23,593
but I'm still like,
959
00:39:23,662 --> 00:39:25,295
"Man, she's actually
looking at my face now."
960
00:39:25,364 --> 00:39:28,365
Like, she's hearing my words.
She's looking at my face.
961
00:39:28,433 --> 00:39:29,599
Like, what is she
actually thinking?
962
00:39:29,668 --> 00:39:33,436
- I want to meet you tomorrow.
963
00:39:33,505 --> 00:39:36,039
- I want to meet you right now.
964
00:39:36,108 --> 00:39:38,575
- Iowa or L.A.?
Who's flying where?
965
00:39:38,643 --> 00:39:40,944
- Let's go.
- I'm down, I'm in.
966
00:39:41,012 --> 00:39:43,446
- Well, it sounds like both--
it's certainly time.
967
00:39:43,515 --> 00:39:46,249
- The day has come.
968
00:39:46,318 --> 00:39:50,019
- Look, we'll let you guys
start your next chapter now.
969
00:39:50,088 --> 00:39:51,821
Obviously, it can be
over FaceTime.
970
00:39:51,890 --> 00:39:53,523
- We should FaceTime
tonight maybe.
971
00:39:53,592 --> 00:39:55,458
- [laughs] Okay.
972
00:39:55,527 --> 00:39:57,627
- There you go.
FaceTime tonight.
973
00:39:57,696 --> 00:39:59,496
- That still feels weird
for me to say,
974
00:39:59,564 --> 00:40:01,898
but I think I'm prepared.
975
00:40:01,967 --> 00:40:04,267
- I'm excited.
- I want to make a request.
976
00:40:04,336 --> 00:40:09,406
When this episode airs,
I want it to end with photos
977
00:40:09,474 --> 00:40:12,976
from whatever trip you guys
plan in the near future.
978
00:40:13,044 --> 00:40:14,944
- I want to do that.
- We'll make it happen.
979
00:40:15,013 --> 00:40:17,914
- Well, good luck.
- Yay!
980
00:40:17,983 --> 00:40:19,349
- I'll talk to you soon.
- Bye.
981
00:40:19,418 --> 00:40:20,517
- Bye.
- Bye.
982
00:40:20,585 --> 00:40:21,718
- Later.
983
00:40:21,787 --> 00:40:23,920
- There it is.
Can you believe it?
984
00:40:24,856 --> 00:40:26,656
We did it, Biggie!
We did it.
985
00:40:26,725 --> 00:40:30,627
Come here.
Oh, come--oh, no.
986
00:40:30,695 --> 00:40:33,863
- ♪ I feel so, I feel so ♪
987
00:40:33,932 --> 00:40:38,501
♪ I feel so free,
feel so free ♪
988
00:40:38,570 --> 00:40:43,106
♪ ♪
989
00:40:54,853 --> 00:40:55,485
[upbeat mu
990
00:40:55,554 --> 00:40:56,553
- Kailan and Jordan met
991
00:40:56,621 --> 00:40:57,954
when they were 11 years old.
992
00:40:58,023 --> 00:41:01,391
- He's every single thing
I want in a man.
993
00:41:01,460 --> 00:41:02,892
- Oh, we got a Twitter account.
994
00:41:02,961 --> 00:41:04,661
- [gasps]
- Tahj.
995
00:41:04,729 --> 00:41:06,229
- Who the hell is Tahj?
996
00:41:06,298 --> 00:41:09,299
- There's no evidence
that a Jordan exists.
997
00:41:10,335 --> 00:41:12,068
[- Oh, [bleep].s]
- Hello, who's there?
998
00:41:12,137 --> 00:41:13,336
[dramatic music]