1 00:00:02,036 --> 00:00:03,202 She was 14. 2 00:00:03,270 --> 00:00:05,137 - Honestly, it's more than just, like, 3 00:00:05,206 --> 00:00:06,238 "Oh, I have a crush on him." 4 00:00:06,307 --> 00:00:08,374 We have a really deep connection. 5 00:00:08,442 --> 00:00:11,543 - Dey has been waiting for this moment for 13 years. 6 00:00:11,612 --> 00:00:12,845 Let's run his phone number. 7 00:00:12,913 --> 00:00:14,546 What? 8 00:00:14,615 --> 00:00:17,082 - No, no! 9 00:00:17,151 --> 00:00:19,318 - Oh, oh, oh, he's typing. - [gasps] 10 00:00:19,387 --> 00:00:22,888 - I'm so nervous. Oh, my God. 11 00:00:22,957 --> 00:00:23,956 [gasps] 12 00:00:24,025 --> 00:00:26,625 [dramatic musical sting] 13 00:00:26,694 --> 00:00:28,594 - We're about to walk in on our new, 14 00:00:28,662 --> 00:00:31,997 finished "Catfish" headquarters. 15 00:00:32,066 --> 00:00:33,432 Go check it out? - I'm scared. 16 00:00:33,501 --> 00:00:37,903 What's it gonna be like? Oh, my God, hey, guys. 17 00:00:37,972 --> 00:00:40,105 - What's up, everyone? - Oh. 18 00:00:40,174 --> 00:00:42,274 I love it. 19 00:00:42,343 --> 00:00:44,977 - My all-time favorite, the trail mix dispenser. 20 00:00:45,046 --> 00:00:47,946 - That's your favorite out of all the snacks you see here? 21 00:00:48,015 --> 00:00:50,716 - Yeah. 22 00:00:50,785 --> 00:00:55,421 - Oh, my God. First office mess. 23 00:00:55,489 --> 00:00:57,623 Is that a good shot? - Very creative. 24 00:00:57,691 --> 00:00:59,858 Let's go, Smalls. 25 00:00:59,927 --> 00:01:03,829 Wow, look at the plant babies. They're all here. 26 00:01:03,898 --> 00:01:06,065 - Two proper desk chairs, look at this. 27 00:01:06,133 --> 00:01:08,333 - We may begin. - All right. 28 00:01:08,402 --> 00:01:12,704 Let's open our email. The subject is "LONG Overdue." 29 00:01:12,773 --> 00:01:13,806 Mm. 30 00:01:13,874 --> 00:01:15,641 "Dear Nev and Kamie, my name is Dey. 31 00:01:15,709 --> 00:01:18,644 "I live in Los Angeles, and I'm writing to you 32 00:01:18,712 --> 00:01:21,280 "because I'm finally in an online relationship 33 00:01:21,348 --> 00:01:25,818 "with someone I've had a crush on for 13 years, 34 00:01:25,886 --> 00:01:28,887 "but we've never met. 35 00:01:28,956 --> 00:01:32,958 "His name is Cody, and he lives in Iowa. 36 00:01:33,027 --> 00:01:35,461 "Cody was a popular YouTuber, 37 00:01:35,529 --> 00:01:38,230 "and I became a huge fan of his content. 38 00:01:38,299 --> 00:01:40,999 "I got obsessed with him 39 00:01:41,068 --> 00:01:43,902 "and eventually started trying to reach out to him. 40 00:01:43,971 --> 00:01:45,337 "We finally connected. 41 00:01:45,406 --> 00:01:48,073 "At first, it was very casual, 42 00:01:48,142 --> 00:01:51,543 "but I was determined to be more than just a fan. 43 00:01:51,612 --> 00:01:54,646 "So about five years ago, 44 00:01:54,715 --> 00:01:56,849 "I searched for his username on Snapchat 45 00:01:56,917 --> 00:01:59,818 and sent him a message." 46 00:01:59,887 --> 00:02:01,954 Snapchat username. 47 00:02:02,022 --> 00:02:04,089 - How do you know? - Might not be the same person. 48 00:02:04,158 --> 00:02:05,290 - How do you know it's the same person? 49 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:06,592 - Well, let's see what she says. 50 00:02:06,660 --> 00:02:08,494 "To my surprise, he responded, 51 00:02:08,562 --> 00:02:11,096 "and we have been in contact ever since. 52 00:02:11,165 --> 00:02:13,765 More recently though, things have gotten serious." 53 00:02:13,834 --> 00:02:17,202 - ♪ A stolen kiss and a storm beating in my chest ♪ 54 00:02:17,271 --> 00:02:19,538 - "We're finally both single, 55 00:02:19,607 --> 00:02:21,940 and he seems to be super into me." 56 00:02:22,009 --> 00:02:25,777 - ♪ Will you love me when we come to our senses? ♪ 57 00:02:25,846 --> 00:02:27,880 - "We talk about having a future together. 58 00:02:27,948 --> 00:02:28,847 He even--" 59 00:02:30,851 --> 00:02:33,852 - This is a lot of information. [laughs] 60 00:02:33,921 --> 00:02:36,622 - "He even cancelled his vasectomy 61 00:02:36,690 --> 00:02:40,826 because we want to have kids together one day." 62 00:02:40,895 --> 00:02:43,428 - ♪ Oh, can we make this better or is this real? ♪ 63 00:02:43,497 --> 00:02:45,898 - "The problem is that we never video chat 64 00:02:46,867 --> 00:02:50,903 - It's not him. or taIt's not him.ne." 65 00:02:50,971 --> 00:02:54,940 - "I really need your help finding out what's going on. 66 00:02:55,009 --> 00:02:57,209 Hope to hear from you. Dey." 67 00:03:00,147 --> 00:03:02,881 - Hmm. - Let's text Dey. 68 00:03:07,021 --> 00:03:08,820 Yeah, "Omg" is right. 69 00:03:08,889 --> 00:03:12,491 - After 13 years, we need to get Dey up in here, 70 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,860 sit them down, wave these in their face. 71 00:03:14,929 --> 00:03:17,963 - More like Dey-dreaming. - Exactly. 72 00:03:18,032 --> 00:03:19,031 - Hey! - Hey! 73 00:03:19,099 --> 00:03:20,165 - Hi! 74 00:03:20,234 --> 00:03:22,668 - What's up? - Oh, my God, hi. 75 00:03:22,736 --> 00:03:24,570 - Hey, Dey. - Wow, so wait. 76 00:03:24,638 --> 00:03:25,571 So you're in Los--we're in Los Angeles. 77 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:26,972 Where are you? - Yeah. 78 00:03:27,041 --> 00:03:28,607 - 'Cause I can probably see you from here. 79 00:03:28,676 --> 00:03:30,709 - We're gonna find you. - Turn your lights on and off. 80 00:03:30,778 --> 00:03:33,412 - [laughs] Right now, I'm in Alhambra. 81 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,647 - Oh, a little further away. 82 00:03:35,716 --> 00:03:38,450 - Out. So tell us about yourself. 83 00:03:38,519 --> 00:03:39,484 Have you always lived in L.A.? 84 00:03:39,553 --> 00:03:41,253 - Yes. - Cali girl. 85 00:03:41,322 --> 00:03:43,222 - And how old are you? - 27. 86 00:03:43,290 --> 00:03:45,757 - '90s babies, hey. - Yeah. 87 00:03:45,826 --> 00:03:48,760 - Can't relate. 88 00:03:48,829 --> 00:03:50,762 All right, well, we read your email, 89 00:03:50,831 --> 00:03:55,534 and we definitely feel like there are some... 90 00:03:55,603 --> 00:03:58,470 - I know, I know. - Red flags. 91 00:03:58,539 --> 00:04:00,939 - Everybody thinks there's red flags, 92 00:04:01,008 --> 00:04:02,140 but I am so trusting. 93 00:04:02,209 --> 00:04:05,143 I 100%, like, want to believe that it's real. 94 00:04:05,212 --> 00:04:06,878 - Which Cody are we talking about? 95 00:04:06,947 --> 00:04:08,814 - Cody [bleep]. - Now, we have to Google. 96 00:04:08,882 --> 00:04:10,315 - We gotta look him up. Hold on. 97 00:04:10,384 --> 00:04:12,317 Is this him? Saturn [bleep] films? 98 00:04:12,386 --> 00:04:15,087 - Yeah, he is, like, super artistic 99 00:04:15,155 --> 00:04:16,355 and, like, talented. 100 00:04:16,423 --> 00:04:19,157 He's a photographer. He does film. 101 00:04:19,226 --> 00:04:20,559 Like, everything, you know? 102 00:04:20,628 --> 00:04:21,860 - So how did you find him? 103 00:04:21,929 --> 00:04:24,396 - I was looking up another YouTuber, 104 00:04:24,465 --> 00:04:25,764 and then, at the end of the video, 105 00:04:25,833 --> 00:04:28,200 he said, "Thanks to my editor," who was Cody. 106 00:04:28,269 --> 00:04:31,603 And I just saw him, and I was just like, "He's so cute." 107 00:04:31,672 --> 00:04:33,972 So I would always comment on his page. 108 00:04:34,041 --> 00:04:35,807 He would just generically be like, 109 00:04:35,876 --> 00:04:38,343 "Oh, thanks for the support," that kind of thing. 110 00:04:38,412 --> 00:04:40,479 I ended up finding him on Snapchat 111 00:04:40,547 --> 00:04:42,547 by searching the Saturn [bleep] Films name 112 00:04:42,616 --> 00:04:43,882 that is on his YouTube. 113 00:04:43,951 --> 00:04:46,351 And right after I sent him a message, 114 00:04:46,420 --> 00:04:47,819 he sent me a message back, 115 00:04:47,888 --> 00:04:49,554 and that's how we started talking. 116 00:04:49,623 --> 00:04:52,391 And then, on Snapchat, he talks to me, like, 117 00:04:52,459 --> 00:04:53,959 throughout the day, all the time. 118 00:04:54,028 --> 00:04:56,962 - How do you know that it was his Snapchat? 119 00:04:57,031 --> 00:04:58,597 - I don't know. 120 00:04:58,666 --> 00:05:00,866 I just assumed it was because of the same name, 121 00:05:00,934 --> 00:05:03,869 like, the username that he uses for YouTube. 122 00:05:03,937 --> 00:05:05,604 - I mean, it's a pretty specific-- 123 00:05:05,673 --> 00:05:08,707 - It is a specific name. - This was a while ago, right? 124 00:05:08,776 --> 00:05:10,709 - Yeah, this was around, like, 2017. 125 00:05:10,778 --> 00:05:12,711 - Do you still follow him on all his other platforms? 126 00:05:12,780 --> 00:05:14,079 - Yeah. 127 00:05:14,148 --> 00:05:16,882 - And he's never acknowledged you really or DMed you? 128 00:05:16,950 --> 00:05:18,817 - I like his things or, like, I'll comment on his pictures, 129 00:05:18,886 --> 00:05:20,352 but he doesn't acknowledge me. 130 00:05:20,421 --> 00:05:21,887 - That's not good. 131 00:05:21,955 --> 00:05:23,689 - And the thing is, on his Instagram, 132 00:05:23,757 --> 00:05:26,925 he never deletes, like, his ex-girlfriend's pictures, 133 00:05:26,994 --> 00:05:29,828 but there's, like, several ex-girlfriends. 134 00:05:29,897 --> 00:05:33,198 - But no current relationship? - Not that I can tell. 135 00:05:33,267 --> 00:05:35,567 I mean, I'm going based on what, 136 00:05:35,636 --> 00:05:37,336 you know, like, Cody on Snapchat tells me. 137 00:05:37,404 --> 00:05:38,770 - Right. - Mm-hmm. 138 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,373 - But on Snapchat your friendship has been what? 139 00:05:41,442 --> 00:05:42,607 Like, how did it progress? 140 00:05:42,676 --> 00:05:44,543 - Yeah, so we've always been friends, 141 00:05:44,611 --> 00:05:47,212 but everything kind of changed the beginning of the year, 142 00:05:47,281 --> 00:05:49,848 because he was single, I was single. 143 00:05:49,917 --> 00:05:51,717 That's when we started getting a little more close 144 00:05:51,785 --> 00:05:54,319 and really wanting to, like, meet each other. 145 00:05:54,388 --> 00:05:55,620 - I mean, I'll say. 146 00:05:55,689 --> 00:05:57,456 You guys are talking about having kids. 147 00:05:57,524 --> 00:06:00,892 - That just recently started. Like, it recently came up. 148 00:06:00,961 --> 00:06:03,562 It wasn't like we were always talking about having children. 149 00:06:03,630 --> 00:06:05,297 - Does he have kids already? - No. 150 00:06:05,366 --> 00:06:07,099 - So he was thinking about getting a vasectomy 151 00:06:07,167 --> 00:06:08,600 'cause he didn't think he ever wanted to have kids. 152 00:06:08,669 --> 00:06:09,868 - He doesn't want kids, yeah. 153 00:06:09,937 --> 00:06:11,503 - But he's willing to reconsider for you? 154 00:06:11,572 --> 00:06:13,205 - Yeah, that's what he said. 155 00:06:13,273 --> 00:06:15,741 - But he's not willing to get on the phone or FaceTime? 156 00:06:15,809 --> 00:06:20,512 - Exactly, and I've even tried calling, but he won't answer. 157 00:06:20,581 --> 00:06:24,249 - Wait, but so do you have his phone number? 158 00:06:24,318 --> 00:06:25,384 - Yeah. 159 00:06:25,452 --> 00:06:27,052 - Have you talked to him on there? 160 00:06:27,121 --> 00:06:28,286 - No. 161 00:06:28,355 --> 00:06:29,788 - So he's never, in any way, 162 00:06:29,857 --> 00:06:32,457 corresponded with you through the cellphone? 163 00:06:32,526 --> 00:06:34,459 - No. - I have a question. 164 00:06:34,528 --> 00:06:36,461 Why are you putting up with this? 165 00:06:36,530 --> 00:06:38,363 Like, what is it about this person? 166 00:06:38,432 --> 00:06:39,598 I'm confused. 167 00:06:39,666 --> 00:06:41,833 - Honestly, like, it's more than just, like, 168 00:06:41,902 --> 00:06:44,469 "Oh, I have a crush on him, and he's just a random dude." 169 00:06:44,538 --> 00:06:46,772 We have a really deep connection. 170 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:48,273 - Okay. 171 00:06:48,342 --> 00:06:51,810 - I feel like the main thing is just, like, our mental health. 172 00:06:51,879 --> 00:06:53,678 I am diagnosed schizophrenic, 173 00:06:53,747 --> 00:06:57,616 and it was around 2019 when I was diagnosed. 174 00:06:57,684 --> 00:06:59,718 So I was already talking to him, 175 00:06:59,787 --> 00:07:01,820 and I didn't want to take medication, 176 00:07:01,889 --> 00:07:03,989 and it was all part of my--you know, 177 00:07:04,057 --> 00:07:07,492 my disorder that I had delusions to not take it. 178 00:07:07,561 --> 00:07:09,227 So I talked to him. 179 00:07:09,296 --> 00:07:11,029 He's literally the one that got through. 180 00:07:11,098 --> 00:07:14,800 You know, he said it in a way where I understood. 181 00:07:14,868 --> 00:07:16,501 So then I started taking my medication every day, 182 00:07:16,570 --> 00:07:17,969 and I did notice a difference. 183 00:07:18,038 --> 00:07:22,307 So now every time that I feel good and I'm okay mentally, 184 00:07:22,376 --> 00:07:24,643 I'm like I can't--I would have not been here, 185 00:07:24,711 --> 00:07:26,111 if he wouldn't have helped me then. 186 00:07:27,548 --> 00:07:29,915 - And so especially now that he's going through something-- 187 00:07:29,983 --> 00:07:32,417 he was recently diagnosed with a disorder, as well. 188 00:07:32,486 --> 00:07:34,619 He also was like, "I don't want to take meds. 189 00:07:34,688 --> 00:07:36,855 I'm scared," and so he finally got on meds, 190 00:07:36,924 --> 00:07:38,256 and he's been doing really well, 191 00:07:38,325 --> 00:07:41,626 so I feel like we just help each other out, in that way. 192 00:07:41,695 --> 00:07:43,128 - Have you been dealing with this, like, 193 00:07:43,197 --> 00:07:45,230 for as long as you can remember? 194 00:07:45,299 --> 00:07:49,134 - No, I developed it around, like, my 18th birthday. 195 00:07:49,203 --> 00:07:51,703 I started hearing random things 196 00:07:51,772 --> 00:07:53,972 that weren't really there. 197 00:07:54,041 --> 00:07:56,608 There's different types of schizophrenia, 198 00:07:56,677 --> 00:07:59,344 but my specific experience, what I hear, 199 00:07:59,413 --> 00:08:02,914 is kind of like a commentary of my life all the time. 200 00:08:02,983 --> 00:08:05,717 "She's getting off her bed. She's grabbing her phone," 201 00:08:05,786 --> 00:08:08,620 so everything that I'm doing it's literally being, 202 00:08:08,689 --> 00:08:09,821 like, narrated in a voice... 203 00:08:09,890 --> 00:08:11,490 - Wow. - That's not my own. 204 00:08:11,558 --> 00:08:13,158 - Like intrusive thoughts. 205 00:08:13,227 --> 00:08:15,260 - Yeah, exactly, it's a very intrusive thought, 206 00:08:15,329 --> 00:08:18,163 and it's constant, constant, constant. 207 00:08:18,232 --> 00:08:20,532 So it's just very overwhelming, but luckily, like, 208 00:08:20,601 --> 00:08:23,969 when I am on medication it kind of, like, fades out. 209 00:08:24,037 --> 00:08:25,437 Like, I can just ignore it, 210 00:08:25,506 --> 00:08:28,640 and it's so much less stressful. 211 00:08:28,709 --> 00:08:30,509 - Well, I think it's very brave of you opening up 212 00:08:30,577 --> 00:08:31,710 to us about that. 213 00:08:31,778 --> 00:08:33,011 I can understand why finding someone 214 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,280 who you can connect with about that who understands, 215 00:08:35,349 --> 00:08:36,815 and encourages, 216 00:08:36,884 --> 00:08:39,050 and supports you in that way is really meaningful. 217 00:08:39,119 --> 00:08:40,051 - Yeah. 218 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,786 - And it makes me like this guy, 219 00:08:41,855 --> 00:08:43,755 but it's been 13 years. 220 00:08:43,824 --> 00:08:44,990 He's a filmmaker. 221 00:08:45,058 --> 00:08:46,458 - Yeah. - You're on Snapchat with him. 222 00:08:46,527 --> 00:08:47,959 Can't he just send you pictures? 223 00:08:48,028 --> 00:08:49,294 Does he send you little videos? 224 00:08:49,363 --> 00:08:50,762 - No, so he doesn't send me videos, 225 00:08:50,831 --> 00:08:52,330 but he has sent me, like, pictures. 226 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:53,765 - Okay. 227 00:08:53,834 --> 00:08:55,600 - But the thing is I watch "Catfish" all the time, 228 00:08:55,669 --> 00:08:58,003 and I know this is one of the things that--ugh. 229 00:08:58,071 --> 00:09:00,939 He'll send me a picture-- - Oh, God, hold on now. 230 00:09:01,008 --> 00:09:02,774 - That he's previously posted, so, like, 231 00:09:02,843 --> 00:09:05,744 he doesn't really send me, like, original, original-- 232 00:09:05,812 --> 00:09:09,247 - No new pictures? - No, yeah. 233 00:09:09,316 --> 00:09:10,949 I was like, "I'm going to call 'Catfish,'" 234 00:09:11,018 --> 00:09:12,617 and then he backed off. 235 00:09:12,686 --> 00:09:16,354 He's not the same now. He's standoffish. 236 00:09:16,423 --> 00:09:17,656 - Yeah. - It's a red flag. 237 00:09:17,724 --> 00:09:19,057 I know, trust me. 238 00:09:19,126 --> 00:09:21,693 I know, but I mean even if it's not really him, 239 00:09:21,762 --> 00:09:23,795 I just want to know who I'm talking to, 240 00:09:23,864 --> 00:09:26,431 because it's been a long time. 241 00:09:26,500 --> 00:09:28,033 - Can you plug your phone in 242 00:09:28,101 --> 00:09:30,135 and show us some photos and Snapchat messages? 243 00:09:30,203 --> 00:09:32,938 - I mean, I have some screenshots. 244 00:09:33,006 --> 00:09:35,173 - Here we go. - Oh, he's cute. 245 00:09:35,242 --> 00:09:37,709 - Oh, and then this is where the first time he ever said... 246 00:09:37,778 --> 00:09:38,843 - Oh. - He loved me. 247 00:09:38,912 --> 00:09:40,779 He said, "I do love you, dummy." 248 00:09:40,847 --> 00:09:42,447 - Had you said it to him before? 249 00:09:42,516 --> 00:09:43,782 - Not before then, no. 250 00:09:43,850 --> 00:09:45,483 - Who is this? 251 00:09:45,552 --> 00:09:46,585 - That's his mom. 252 00:09:46,653 --> 00:09:48,486 - Oh, his mom. 253 00:09:48,555 --> 00:09:51,089 - All right, well, look. Clearly, something's going on. 254 00:09:51,158 --> 00:09:54,292 - There is a piece that is missing in this story. 255 00:09:54,361 --> 00:09:56,361 - I just want to, like, put a face 256 00:09:56,430 --> 00:09:58,530 to who I'm speaking to. 257 00:09:58,599 --> 00:10:01,533 Even if it's not the face I thought, I just want to know. 258 00:10:01,602 --> 00:10:03,335 - I feel like we should be able to figure this out. 259 00:10:03,403 --> 00:10:06,171 - I love your confidence. I believe in you. 260 00:10:06,239 --> 00:10:08,139 - Send us an email with the phone number, 261 00:10:08,208 --> 00:10:09,541 anything else you can think of. 262 00:10:09,610 --> 00:10:11,109 - Got it, okay, cool. 263 00:10:11,178 --> 00:10:12,911 - And let us get to work. - Thank you, guys. 264 00:10:12,980 --> 00:10:15,213 - Thanks, Dey. - Bye. 265 00:10:15,282 --> 00:10:17,716 I don't know. It's just--it's weird. 266 00:10:17,784 --> 00:10:18,783 - It's weird. 267 00:10:18,852 --> 00:10:21,252 - Why would this guy be so shady 268 00:10:21,321 --> 00:10:23,888 about talking on the phone or video chatting? 269 00:10:23,957 --> 00:10:26,291 - And why, when she mentioned the fact 270 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,394 that she was gonna contact us, he backs off all of a sudden? 271 00:10:30,731 --> 00:10:33,264 - Dey has been waiting for this moment for 13 years, 272 00:10:33,333 --> 00:10:35,000 and she deserves to know the truth. 273 00:10:36,703 --> 00:10:38,069 - Are you ready? 274 00:10:38,138 --> 00:10:40,238 Are you inviting me to, like-- - Yes. 275 00:10:40,307 --> 00:10:42,307 - Like a thing? We're ready. 276 00:10:42,376 --> 00:10:44,209 - I thought you were gonna give me more of a-- 277 00:10:44,277 --> 00:10:46,745 - Oh, okay, all right. Should we try that again? 278 00:10:46,813 --> 00:10:49,147 - No. - [laughs] 279 00:10:49,216 --> 00:10:51,416 - All right, so what do we got? We got Dey. 280 00:10:51,485 --> 00:10:54,319 She found Cody when she was 14 on YouTube, 281 00:10:54,388 --> 00:10:55,654 had a big crush on him, 282 00:10:55,722 --> 00:10:57,122 has been following him ever since. 283 00:10:57,190 --> 00:10:59,624 Then, five years ago, 284 00:10:59,693 --> 00:11:02,694 searches his name on Snapchat, and finds an account, 285 00:11:02,763 --> 00:11:04,696 and they become friends over Snapchat. 286 00:11:04,765 --> 00:11:06,164 But their friendship gets deeper and deeper, 287 00:11:06,233 --> 00:11:07,832 because they open up to each other about 288 00:11:07,901 --> 00:11:09,467 their mental health issues that they're going through. 289 00:11:09,536 --> 00:11:10,535 - Mm-hmm. 290 00:11:10,604 --> 00:11:12,771 - And they develop this real bond. 291 00:11:12,839 --> 00:11:15,874 - Then, earlier this year, things start heating up 292 00:11:15,942 --> 00:11:18,977 and moving in the direction of this could be a thing. 293 00:11:19,046 --> 00:11:21,046 They communicate exclusively on Snapchat. 294 00:11:21,114 --> 00:11:23,915 - Even though she has his number, allegedly. 295 00:11:23,984 --> 00:11:25,417 - But he won't answer a phone call, 296 00:11:25,485 --> 00:11:27,318 and he sent her a handful of photos, 297 00:11:27,387 --> 00:11:29,821 but most of them are just from social media. 298 00:11:29,890 --> 00:11:31,456 - Right, it's not looking great. 299 00:11:31,525 --> 00:11:33,358 - Right, let's first get email. Okay. 300 00:11:33,427 --> 00:11:35,126 "Everything I have on Cody." 301 00:11:35,195 --> 00:11:36,594 "Hey, guys. Thank you so much. 302 00:11:36,663 --> 00:11:38,797 "Attached are the pictures of Cody that I have, 303 00:11:38,865 --> 00:11:40,365 "his number, 304 00:11:40,434 --> 00:11:41,966 and here is all the social media I have for him." 305 00:11:42,035 --> 00:11:43,468 - Okay. 306 00:11:43,537 --> 00:11:45,470 - So I think I just want to look through his Instagram. 307 00:11:45,539 --> 00:11:49,441 All right, so he posted most recently a month ago. 308 00:11:49,509 --> 00:11:50,608 - "Imagine a phobia of doctors. 309 00:11:52,045 --> 00:11:53,812 "to meet a doctor that actually wants to help you. 310 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,347 "He prescribes you something, and your insurance denies it. 311 00:11:56,416 --> 00:11:57,615 "I am in pain. I'm hurting. 312 00:11:59,119 --> 00:12:04,155 Well, whoever Dey is talking to is definitely mirroring a lot 313 00:12:04,224 --> 00:12:06,791 of what Cody is saying on his Instagram. 314 00:12:06,860 --> 00:12:08,059 - Right. 315 00:12:08,128 --> 00:12:11,463 - Who's the girl in this picture? 316 00:12:11,531 --> 00:12:13,264 - Interesting that she's not tagged. 317 00:12:13,333 --> 00:12:16,468 - Yeah. - Ooh, there's a video. 318 00:12:16,536 --> 00:12:20,071 - All right, so it's Valentine's Day, or it was. 319 00:12:20,140 --> 00:12:22,240 That's my girlfriend Lena. 320 00:12:24,211 --> 00:12:25,710 - Lena, his girlfriend. 321 00:12:25,779 --> 00:12:27,278 That's the girl in all the photos. 322 00:12:27,347 --> 00:12:29,914 - All right, so February of this year, 323 00:12:29,983 --> 00:12:33,118 he was spending it with his girlfriend. 324 00:12:33,186 --> 00:12:36,521 There's then lots of posts of her since then, 325 00:12:36,590 --> 00:12:39,491 going back as recently as two months ago. 326 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,727 So the question is have they broken up since? 327 00:12:42,796 --> 00:12:45,497 - We don't even know if this is the Cody that she's talking to. 328 00:12:45,565 --> 00:12:47,198 - Let's go and see who he's following. 329 00:12:47,267 --> 00:12:48,767 - Hope we can find Lena. 330 00:12:48,835 --> 00:12:53,104 - Yeah, is he following Lena? Lena, Lena, there she is. 331 00:12:53,173 --> 00:12:56,174 - Lena! - There she is, Lena Salitto. 332 00:12:56,243 --> 00:12:59,144 - This is definitely her page, but she doesn't have anything. 333 00:12:59,212 --> 00:13:00,512 There's nothing there. 334 00:13:00,580 --> 00:13:03,081 - Yeah, Dey is on his Instagram and sees this. 335 00:13:03,150 --> 00:13:04,616 - Yeah. 336 00:13:04,684 --> 00:13:07,118 - Like, did their friendship only become flirtatious 337 00:13:07,187 --> 00:13:09,788 since this potential breakup? 338 00:13:09,856 --> 00:13:12,090 - She said, at the top of the year. 339 00:13:12,159 --> 00:13:13,558 - That's what I thought. 340 00:13:13,627 --> 00:13:18,196 Let's ask her. What's the deal with Lena? 341 00:13:18,265 --> 00:13:19,564 - Oh. 342 00:13:28,475 --> 00:13:29,841 - She knew he had a girlfriend obviously. 343 00:13:29,910 --> 00:13:31,109 She said it. 344 00:13:31,178 --> 00:13:32,844 Maybe they broke up on Valentine's Day. 345 00:13:32,913 --> 00:13:34,279 - And then, since then, 346 00:13:34,347 --> 00:13:35,947 he's just posted a buttload of pictures of her? 347 00:13:36,016 --> 00:13:38,149 - He likes his art. 348 00:13:38,218 --> 00:13:40,919 - So now let's run his phone number. 349 00:13:40,987 --> 00:13:43,454 What? 350 00:13:43,523 --> 00:13:45,456 And it comes up for Lena Salitto. 351 00:13:45,525 --> 00:13:50,061 - That--no. - That's his ex-girlfriend. 352 00:13:50,130 --> 00:13:53,164 - I know! - Okay, so wait a second. 353 00:13:53,233 --> 00:13:57,735 - No, oh, no! Let's run out the Lena play. 354 00:13:57,804 --> 00:14:01,406 Dey is all over Cody's pages fangirling, doing the most. 355 00:14:01,474 --> 00:14:02,941 - Right, someone sees that. 356 00:14:03,009 --> 00:14:06,211 - Lena had to have had the Saturn [bleep] Snapchat 357 00:14:06,279 --> 00:14:07,412 already created 358 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,581 and had been behind it the entire time. 359 00:14:09,649 --> 00:14:12,650 - And just waited for her to look it up and add it? 360 00:14:12,719 --> 00:14:15,687 She says she actively looked for 361 00:14:15,755 --> 00:14:18,523 and discovered the Snapchat page. 362 00:14:18,592 --> 00:14:22,026 So if the ex is behind this, that's a really long con. 363 00:14:22,095 --> 00:14:26,064 - I don't know, I don't know. - All right, hold on a second. 364 00:14:26,132 --> 00:14:27,265 There's still more in this email 365 00:14:27,334 --> 00:14:28,299 that we haven't looked at. 366 00:14:28,368 --> 00:14:30,735 There's a Facebook. 367 00:14:30,804 --> 00:14:32,637 - "Happy International Women's Day. 368 00:14:32,706 --> 00:14:34,672 I love all the women in my life"--oh, look. 369 00:14:34,741 --> 00:14:38,676 - Look who's there. - Lena and the mom. 370 00:14:38,745 --> 00:14:42,981 Tracy [bleep], message her. - All right. 371 00:14:48,722 --> 00:14:52,390 - She'll know that for sure. "Catfish," never heard of it. 372 00:14:52,459 --> 00:14:54,192 She will know--Moms know "Dancing With the Stars." 373 00:14:54,261 --> 00:14:55,526 - And "Catfish." 374 00:15:00,967 --> 00:15:03,268 Okay, and let's just see what else comes up, 375 00:15:03,336 --> 00:15:06,504 if we Google Saturn [bleep] Films because what is that? 376 00:15:06,573 --> 00:15:08,306 Oh, wait, Cody [bleep], a Tumblr. 377 00:15:08,375 --> 00:15:12,343 Okay, the YouTube. What's Encyclopedia Pwned? 378 00:15:12,412 --> 00:15:13,978 I've never heard of that. What is that? 379 00:15:14,047 --> 00:15:17,682 "Cody [bleep] Saturn [bleep] Films is a god-awful filmmaker 380 00:15:17,751 --> 00:15:19,651 "and an even worse vlogger 381 00:15:19,719 --> 00:15:21,452 "who believes that greed is good. 382 00:15:21,521 --> 00:15:24,422 Like every other atheist, he's a [bleep] apologist." 383 00:15:24,491 --> 00:15:26,658 This is so weird. 384 00:15:26,726 --> 00:15:29,494 - Why so mean? Who wrote this [bleep]? 385 00:15:29,562 --> 00:15:31,129 And do you mean to tell me somebody 386 00:15:31,197 --> 00:15:33,831 who was this [bleep] crazy 387 00:15:33,900 --> 00:15:36,868 and would write this entire thing about Cody 388 00:15:36,937 --> 00:15:39,170 couldn't make a fake Snapchat about him, 389 00:15:39,239 --> 00:15:41,639 so that he doesn't have his page or something like that? 390 00:15:41,708 --> 00:15:43,875 - This whole website is, like, very weird. 391 00:15:43,944 --> 00:15:46,244 - I feel like we're, like, on the dark web. 392 00:15:46,313 --> 00:15:48,546 [phone chimes] - Oh. 393 00:15:48,615 --> 00:15:50,815 There's a phone call from [bleep] Iowa. 394 00:15:50,884 --> 00:15:51,849 Hello? 395 00:15:53,219 --> 00:15:54,452 - Yes, it is. Who's this? 396 00:15:55,155 --> 00:15:57,622 - Thank you for getting back to me so quickly. 397 00:15:57,691 --> 00:16:02,961 Are you familiar with me via my show "Catfish" 398 00:16:03,029 --> 00:16:06,297 or my performance on "Dancing With the Stars"? 399 00:16:08,601 --> 00:16:10,768 - Okay, great. All right, so listen. 400 00:16:10,837 --> 00:16:14,305 I need a little help because a young woman reached out 401 00:16:14,374 --> 00:16:17,709 because she tells us that she has been friends 402 00:16:17,777 --> 00:16:21,079 with your son Cody for a number of years now... 403 00:16:21,581 --> 00:16:23,548 - And that in the last four or five months, 404 00:16:23,616 --> 00:16:24,749 that friendship has become 405 00:16:24,818 --> 00:16:28,786 a bit more flirtatious and intimate. 406 00:16:29,255 --> 00:16:30,621 - Do you know anything about this, 407 00:16:30,690 --> 00:16:33,691 or has Cody mentioned anything like this to you? 408 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,327 - Does he have a girlfriend? - Is he in a relationship? 409 00:16:44,604 --> 00:16:46,938 - Sure, but has he ever mentioned her name? 410 00:16:47,407 --> 00:16:49,640 - Okay, so from what we understand, 411 00:16:49,709 --> 00:16:52,744 he was in a relationship with Lena for a while there. 412 00:16:53,213 --> 00:16:54,579 - But that ended this year? 413 00:16:55,281 --> 00:16:59,217 - So then, rather than you telling us Cody's Snapchat, 414 00:16:59,285 --> 00:17:00,685 if I tell you the name we have, 415 00:17:00,754 --> 00:17:04,722 you can just say whether or not that's his or not. 416 00:17:05,325 --> 00:17:10,995 - The Snapchat name that she has is Saturn [bleep] Films. 417 00:17:15,668 --> 00:17:16,734 - Right, as far as you know, 418 00:17:16,803 --> 00:17:18,336 he only has one Snapchat account, 419 00:17:18,405 --> 00:17:20,538 and it's not Saturn [bleep] Films? 420 00:17:23,043 --> 00:17:24,008 - Got it. 421 00:17:26,579 --> 00:17:27,845 - Okay. - Thank you. 422 00:17:27,914 --> 00:17:28,846 - Bye-bye. 423 00:17:29,849 --> 00:17:31,949 - Okay, so from that phone call, 424 00:17:32,018 --> 00:17:34,752 we have to assume Dey is not talking to Cody. 425 00:17:34,821 --> 00:17:36,220 - Mm-hmm. - It's not his Snapchat. 426 00:17:36,289 --> 00:17:38,456 - Right, and somebody who knows him could be 427 00:17:38,525 --> 00:17:40,625 impersonating him talking to poor Dey. 428 00:17:40,693 --> 00:17:42,593 Whoever made that website 429 00:17:42,662 --> 00:17:44,929 about Cody has it out for him. 430 00:17:44,998 --> 00:17:46,064 - I don't know. 431 00:17:46,132 --> 00:17:48,332 This whole thing just keeps getting murkier, 432 00:17:48,401 --> 00:17:50,701 and stranger, and scarier. 433 00:17:50,770 --> 00:17:52,437 I don't think it's Lena. 434 00:17:52,505 --> 00:17:54,806 I have a feeling that this is some weird person 435 00:17:54,874 --> 00:17:56,274 on the internet who has it out for him, 436 00:17:56,342 --> 00:17:59,143 who likes to mess with him, who's taken it way too far, 437 00:17:59,212 --> 00:18:02,080 and that Dey might have just gotten caught up in it. 438 00:18:03,817 --> 00:18:05,583 - There she is. - Good morning. 439 00:18:05,652 --> 00:18:07,585 - Potato chips, want one? 440 00:18:07,654 --> 00:18:09,921 - No, thank you. 441 00:18:09,989 --> 00:18:12,623 - Do I want chips? - No. 442 00:18:12,692 --> 00:18:14,725 - Kind of, it's a little salty. 443 00:18:14,794 --> 00:18:16,494 - I think you just want a crunch, 444 00:18:16,563 --> 00:18:19,430 or do you just want a salty taste? 445 00:18:19,499 --> 00:18:21,265 [upbeat music] 446 00:18:21,334 --> 00:18:25,803 You [bleep] mother [bleep]. 447 00:18:25,872 --> 00:18:28,005 Oh, my God. 448 00:18:28,074 --> 00:18:30,842 I was like, "Who bought these ghetto chips?" 449 00:18:30,910 --> 00:18:32,577 You know what? I should have known. 450 00:18:32,645 --> 00:18:34,912 - Assault-y snack. 451 00:18:34,981 --> 00:18:36,147 All right, so look. 452 00:18:36,216 --> 00:18:39,117 We know Dey is not talking to Cody, 453 00:18:39,185 --> 00:18:41,018 unless, of course, his mom is lying to us, 454 00:18:41,087 --> 00:18:43,354 and it's all some weird coverup. 455 00:18:43,423 --> 00:18:46,023 - I think we should reach out to Cody. 456 00:18:46,092 --> 00:18:48,626 - Oh. - The fake Cody. 457 00:18:49,963 --> 00:18:52,363 I mean let's at least look at the Saturn [bleep] Films 458 00:18:52,432 --> 00:18:54,232 Snapchat that Dey has been talking to. 459 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:56,501 - Cody Danger [bleep]? 460 00:18:56,569 --> 00:18:58,236 - Well, let's see if Cody Danger [bleep] 461 00:18:58,304 --> 00:19:00,338 comes up anywhere else. 462 00:19:00,406 --> 00:19:03,741 - Isn't that Cody right there? - I think it could be. 463 00:19:03,810 --> 00:19:05,409 - Cody [bleep] underscore. 464 00:19:05,478 --> 00:19:08,446 - My name is Cody [bleep]. I hate--whoa. 465 00:19:08,515 --> 00:19:10,414 - This is--yes. 466 00:19:10,483 --> 00:19:13,384 This matches the other weird-ass page about him. 467 00:19:13,453 --> 00:19:15,153 It has all the racist [bleep]. - This is a troll. 468 00:19:15,221 --> 00:19:16,554 - Yeah, super racist. 469 00:19:16,623 --> 00:19:18,589 Wow, they're really trying to get him in trouble. 470 00:19:18,658 --> 00:19:22,160 - Yeah, writing all these things as quotes from Cody. 471 00:19:22,228 --> 00:19:24,395 - Yeah, this is pretty aggressive. 472 00:19:24,464 --> 00:19:26,297 - Clearly, somebody is trying to get at Cody. 473 00:19:26,366 --> 00:19:27,532 - Yes. 474 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,300 - Unless this is somebody else who hates him, 475 00:19:29,369 --> 00:19:31,135 and this is not the same person. 476 00:19:31,204 --> 00:19:34,839 - Okay, so Cody clearly has an enemy. 477 00:19:34,908 --> 00:19:38,709 - I think that somebody who has been after Cody for a long time 478 00:19:38,778 --> 00:19:41,479 has been behind the scenes trying to meddle in his world 479 00:19:41,548 --> 00:19:42,446 and in his life 480 00:19:42,515 --> 00:19:45,316 and somehow knows his girlfriend's 481 00:19:45,385 --> 00:19:48,019 or ex-girlfriend's number and decided to give it to Dey 482 00:19:48,087 --> 00:19:49,887 because they knew that Dey would then text it. 483 00:19:49,956 --> 00:19:52,657 And then that would cause strife in Cody's relationship. 484 00:19:52,725 --> 00:19:54,692 - Right, but it didn't. - How do we know? 485 00:19:54,761 --> 00:19:56,427 - 'Cause she texted the number, and they never responded. 486 00:19:56,496 --> 00:19:57,728 - Yeah, 'cause it was Lena, and she was like, 487 00:19:57,797 --> 00:19:58,863 "What the [bleep]?" 488 00:19:58,932 --> 00:20:00,364 And she probably sent it to Cody 489 00:20:00,433 --> 00:20:02,133 and was like, "What is this?" and then they broke up. 490 00:20:02,202 --> 00:20:04,969 - I don't know. Something seems wrong. 491 00:20:05,038 --> 00:20:06,537 - Cody has way more enemies. 492 00:20:06,606 --> 00:20:08,806 There's a lot going on with him behind the scenes. 493 00:20:08,875 --> 00:20:10,808 - All right, let's text her. 494 00:20:10,877 --> 00:20:14,812 - We got something for you. 495 00:20:14,881 --> 00:20:16,414 [computer chimes] - Oh. 496 00:20:16,482 --> 00:20:19,083 Hi. - Hi, how are you? 497 00:20:19,152 --> 00:20:22,687 - What's up? - Not much, just anxious. 498 00:20:22,755 --> 00:20:24,822 I'm excited and nervous. 499 00:20:24,891 --> 00:20:27,892 - We're nervous as well. - Really? 500 00:20:27,961 --> 00:20:29,627 That doesn't sound good. 501 00:20:29,696 --> 00:20:31,829 - Let us walk you through the sort of path that we went down. 502 00:20:31,898 --> 00:20:33,397 - Okay. 503 00:20:33,466 --> 00:20:37,368 - All right, so we went to his Instagram, and obviously, 504 00:20:37,437 --> 00:20:39,170 there's this girl, and I think you already know-- 505 00:20:39,239 --> 00:20:40,338 - Yeah. - This girl. 506 00:20:40,406 --> 00:20:41,872 - Yeah, his ex-girlfriend. 507 00:20:41,941 --> 00:20:43,908 - Right. This is Lena. - Yeah. 508 00:20:43,977 --> 00:20:46,611 - You said that they broke up sometime, I guess, 509 00:20:46,679 --> 00:20:47,878 at the top of the year, 510 00:20:47,947 --> 00:20:49,981 but he's been posting her a lot. 511 00:20:50,049 --> 00:20:52,183 - Like, after they broke up, yeah. 512 00:20:52,252 --> 00:20:55,086 - Well, he posted this video-- - Yeah. 513 00:20:55,154 --> 00:20:56,387 - On the day after Valentine's Day. 514 00:20:56,456 --> 00:20:59,156 Have you watched this video? - I don't think so. 515 00:20:59,225 --> 00:21:01,058 - As of Valentine's Day this year, 516 00:21:01,127 --> 00:21:02,360 they were very much together. 517 00:21:02,428 --> 00:21:04,495 - And he says in the video "my girlfriend." 518 00:21:04,564 --> 00:21:06,731 - But this is on his Instagram. You follow it. 519 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:08,499 Like, he wasn't hiding this from you. 520 00:21:08,568 --> 00:21:11,602 - No he wasn't, but most of like--when 521 00:21:11,671 --> 00:21:13,904 I ask him about pictures or, like, anything 522 00:21:13,973 --> 00:21:15,339 about his ex-girlfriend, 523 00:21:15,408 --> 00:21:17,375 he says that they're old photos. 524 00:21:17,443 --> 00:21:20,711 But I mean seeing this and then the February 14th? 525 00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:22,079 Yeah. 526 00:21:22,148 --> 00:21:23,514 - Well, before you put too much into this, 527 00:21:23,583 --> 00:21:25,449 we're not even sure you're talking to this guy. 528 00:21:25,518 --> 00:21:26,350 - Okay. 529 00:21:26,419 --> 00:21:27,385 - So here's where it gets weird. 530 00:21:27,453 --> 00:21:28,953 When we ran the phone number 531 00:21:29,022 --> 00:21:32,890 that Cody gave you, it came up registered to Lena. 532 00:21:32,959 --> 00:21:35,393 - What? - Cody's ex. 533 00:21:35,461 --> 00:21:38,562 - So could she be the one that's, like, texting me? 534 00:21:38,631 --> 00:21:41,432 - We started trying to figure out how that would make sense. 535 00:21:41,501 --> 00:21:43,267 You haven't had any interaction with her, have you? 536 00:21:43,336 --> 00:21:46,437 - No, never. We have never spoken, never. 537 00:21:46,506 --> 00:21:48,873 - 'Cause maybe she and Cody were breaking up, 538 00:21:48,941 --> 00:21:51,709 and she saw that Cody and you were friends, and she was like, 539 00:21:51,778 --> 00:21:53,978 "Oh, this girl's, you know, messing with my man. 540 00:21:54,047 --> 00:21:55,913 I'm gonna mess with her." 541 00:21:55,982 --> 00:21:57,381 - Oh, my gosh. 542 00:21:57,450 --> 00:21:59,216 - But then it doesn't make sense either 543 00:21:59,285 --> 00:22:01,385 because you added the Snapchat. 544 00:22:01,454 --> 00:22:02,820 It's not like they added you. - Yeah. 545 00:22:02,889 --> 00:22:04,021 - Right. - Or found you. 546 00:22:04,090 --> 00:22:05,389 - Yeah. 547 00:22:05,458 --> 00:22:06,757 - And they've been nothing but nice to you. 548 00:22:06,826 --> 00:22:09,460 - Yeah, that's very confusing. That makes no sense. 549 00:22:09,529 --> 00:22:11,062 - It doesn't make any sense. 550 00:22:11,130 --> 00:22:12,930 We then continued and found his mom. 551 00:22:12,999 --> 00:22:14,265 - Yeah. 552 00:22:14,334 --> 00:22:16,834 - So we were like, "Okay. Let's talk to the mom. 553 00:22:16,903 --> 00:22:19,170 Maybe she can help make some sense out of this." 554 00:22:19,238 --> 00:22:21,539 She called us. - She did? 555 00:22:21,607 --> 00:22:22,707 - And I said, "Okay, well, here's what's up. 556 00:22:22,775 --> 00:22:24,275 "We're trying to help this girl. 557 00:22:24,344 --> 00:22:26,277 "She says she's been talking to your son. 558 00:22:26,346 --> 00:22:28,079 Is your son in a relationship?" 559 00:22:28,147 --> 00:22:29,580 And she said, as far as she knew-- 560 00:22:29,649 --> 00:22:31,482 - He was not in a relationship. - Right. 561 00:22:31,551 --> 00:22:34,018 - But she said he does have someone that he's talking to. 562 00:22:34,087 --> 00:22:35,553 - Oh. 563 00:22:35,621 --> 00:22:38,456 - And so I said, "Is his Snapchat Saturn [bleep] Films?" 564 00:22:38,524 --> 00:22:41,926 And she said, "No, that's not the Snapchat I have for him." 565 00:22:41,994 --> 00:22:45,262 - Really? 566 00:22:45,331 --> 00:22:47,064 - But obviously, at that moment, we got concerned. 567 00:22:47,133 --> 00:22:48,299 - Mm-hmm. 568 00:22:48,368 --> 00:22:49,734 - If that's not his Snapchat account, 569 00:22:49,802 --> 00:22:51,268 who are you talking to? 570 00:22:51,337 --> 00:22:54,572 - Yeah. That's the big question. 571 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,874 - The next thing we did was just a Google search 572 00:22:56,943 --> 00:22:58,376 for Saturn [bleep] Films, 573 00:22:58,444 --> 00:23:03,347 and it took us to something called Encyclopedia Pwned. 574 00:23:03,416 --> 00:23:05,416 Have you ever heard of that? - No. 575 00:23:05,485 --> 00:23:06,584 - So if you read this, it says, 576 00:23:06,652 --> 00:23:08,919 "Saturn [bleep] Films, AKA Cody [bleep], 577 00:23:08,988 --> 00:23:11,622 "is a god-awful filmmaker and an even worse vlogger 578 00:23:11,691 --> 00:23:13,991 "who believes that greed is good. 579 00:23:14,060 --> 00:23:16,961 Like every other atheist, he's a [bleep] apologist." 580 00:23:17,029 --> 00:23:18,362 - Wow. 581 00:23:18,431 --> 00:23:21,665 - I mean it's just a lot of trash talk about Cody. 582 00:23:21,734 --> 00:23:22,833 - Wow. 583 00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:26,070 - So then today we went back to the Snapchat 584 00:23:26,139 --> 00:23:27,638 that you gave us for Saturn [bleep] Films. 585 00:23:27,707 --> 00:23:28,906 - Oh, right. 586 00:23:28,975 --> 00:23:32,510 - His name on Snapchat says, "Cody Danger [bleep]." 587 00:23:32,578 --> 00:23:34,545 And so we were like, "Oh, let's search that, 588 00:23:34,614 --> 00:23:36,781 and see if anything comes up," and it did. 589 00:23:36,849 --> 00:23:40,317 - It brings up a super racist Twitter page. 590 00:23:40,386 --> 00:23:41,252 - What? - You can read this. 591 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,787 - Wow. 592 00:23:42,855 --> 00:23:45,189 - Obviously, we don't think that this is the real Cody. 593 00:23:45,258 --> 00:23:47,958 Someone impersonating Cody made this Twitter in his name. 594 00:23:48,027 --> 00:23:49,360 - To try to get him in trouble. 595 00:23:49,429 --> 00:23:51,195 - Yes, and then used the hashtag "Black Lives Matter." 596 00:23:51,264 --> 00:23:52,763 - Well, right. - Like, the audacity. 597 00:23:52,832 --> 00:23:55,733 - Well, and to then credit the tweet to him. 598 00:23:55,802 --> 00:23:56,934 - Wow. 599 00:23:57,003 --> 00:23:58,669 - And hashtag it so that it would show up 600 00:23:58,738 --> 00:24:01,405 in trending topics for Black Lives Matter, 601 00:24:01,474 --> 00:24:03,941 clearly trying to start controversy 602 00:24:04,010 --> 00:24:05,943 and create a problem for Cody. 603 00:24:06,012 --> 00:24:07,845 - That's insane, yeah. 604 00:24:07,914 --> 00:24:10,047 - Coming off of the Encyclopedia Pwned 605 00:24:10,116 --> 00:24:11,916 and then seeing this, it became clear to us 606 00:24:11,984 --> 00:24:14,552 that obviously there is someone who really doesn't like Cody. 607 00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:16,287 - Right, but why would they--like, 608 00:24:16,355 --> 00:24:18,589 that's such an obsession. 609 00:24:18,658 --> 00:24:21,759 He tells me that a lot of people don't like him 610 00:24:21,828 --> 00:24:23,494 but never really why or, 611 00:24:23,563 --> 00:24:26,430 like, what he's done on his part, you know? 612 00:24:26,499 --> 00:24:27,865 - Mm-hmm. - I don't know. 613 00:24:27,934 --> 00:24:30,968 I feel super confused. My heart's pounding. 614 00:24:31,037 --> 00:24:33,604 Like, I'm so overwhelmed. 615 00:24:33,673 --> 00:24:35,773 There's just so much going on, 616 00:24:35,842 --> 00:24:39,276 and if it's not him, like, who is it? 617 00:24:39,345 --> 00:24:40,644 - What concerns me is the fact 618 00:24:40,713 --> 00:24:43,013 that you have been talking to this person 619 00:24:43,082 --> 00:24:45,950 and sharing deep things about your personal life 620 00:24:46,018 --> 00:24:47,785 and the things that you're going through. 621 00:24:47,854 --> 00:24:50,321 - Very deep things, yeah. - Very deep things. 622 00:24:50,389 --> 00:24:52,156 - And very personal, mm-hmm. 623 00:24:52,225 --> 00:24:55,426 - And who the [bleep]--if you're [bleep] with someone, 624 00:24:55,495 --> 00:24:57,394 who does that? 625 00:24:57,463 --> 00:25:02,500 - Right, yeah. That's really messed up. 626 00:25:02,568 --> 00:25:05,970 Right now, honestly, I feel like this person, to me, 627 00:25:06,038 --> 00:25:10,374 is just, like, a stranger. 628 00:25:10,443 --> 00:25:11,709 It's just like now 629 00:25:11,777 --> 00:25:14,645 I just feel like there's a good possibility of Cody 630 00:25:14,714 --> 00:25:16,747 not being the person that I was talking to. 631 00:25:16,816 --> 00:25:19,316 - ♪ It'll never be the same ♪ 632 00:25:19,385 --> 00:25:22,386 - The hate websites, the Twitter, 633 00:25:22,455 --> 00:25:26,657 and then that language, it's insane. 634 00:25:26,726 --> 00:25:29,460 Who am I talking to? Who is he? 635 00:25:29,529 --> 00:25:34,765 - ♪ I gave you all my love to date ♪ 636 00:25:34,834 --> 00:25:40,437 - So I'm scared and upset, just really confused. 637 00:25:40,506 --> 00:25:43,541 - ♪ Reaching for a hand to hold ♪ 638 00:25:43,609 --> 00:25:47,077 ♪ From a wild animal ♪ 639 00:25:47,146 --> 00:25:50,514 - Are you still feeling hopeful that it could be the real Cody? 640 00:25:50,583 --> 00:25:53,250 - Honestly, at this point, no. 641 00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:55,886 - ♪ Antidote, antidote ♪ 642 00:25:55,955 --> 00:25:58,522 - I just feel like somebody's messing with me. 643 00:25:58,591 --> 00:26:00,658 - ♪ Antidote ♪ 644 00:26:00,726 --> 00:26:02,660 - How you doing? How you feeling? 645 00:26:02,728 --> 00:26:05,863 - It's just like now I feel like the possibility of Cody 646 00:26:05,932 --> 00:26:08,232 not being the person that I was talking to is, 647 00:26:08,301 --> 00:26:09,700 like, setting in, you know? 648 00:26:09,769 --> 00:26:12,469 But I still want to know who it is I'm talking to, 649 00:26:12,538 --> 00:26:14,505 even if it's not him. 650 00:26:14,574 --> 00:26:16,607 - So if this is not the real Cody, 651 00:26:16,676 --> 00:26:21,078 you're still willing to keep a relationship with this person? 652 00:26:21,147 --> 00:26:23,514 - I mean, I'm not sure about a relationship, 653 00:26:23,583 --> 00:26:27,284 just because making me believe that you're Cody, 654 00:26:27,353 --> 00:26:30,054 you know, for this long, that's a huge lie, 655 00:26:30,122 --> 00:26:33,490 but I at least want to know what their intentions were. 656 00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:36,927 Like, what did they get out of this? 657 00:26:36,996 --> 00:26:41,165 But I feel like I should tell you guys something. 658 00:26:41,233 --> 00:26:42,600 - Oh, God. 659 00:26:42,668 --> 00:26:47,705 - Earlier this year in January, I got married. 660 00:26:47,773 --> 00:26:50,341 - Oh. - Are you married? 661 00:26:50,409 --> 00:26:51,742 - I'm currently married, 662 00:26:51,811 --> 00:26:55,412 but I'm in the process of getting a divorce. 663 00:26:55,481 --> 00:26:57,314 It was super rushed. 664 00:26:57,383 --> 00:26:58,582 It was with somebody 665 00:26:58,651 --> 00:27:01,685 that I'd only been dating for about four months. 666 00:27:01,754 --> 00:27:06,790 - Okay, and does Cody know about all this? 667 00:27:06,859 --> 00:27:09,827 - No. 668 00:27:09,895 --> 00:27:11,462 - Dey. 669 00:27:11,530 --> 00:27:13,731 - So but you were talking to Cody very much 670 00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:15,599 while you had just been married, and-- 671 00:27:15,668 --> 00:27:17,434 - Yeah, so right after I got married, 672 00:27:17,503 --> 00:27:20,838 I knew that I had made a mistake. 673 00:27:20,906 --> 00:27:22,906 So now, we're in the process of getting a divorce, 674 00:27:22,975 --> 00:27:25,242 and we have been for since, like, March, 675 00:27:25,311 --> 00:27:26,510 so it wasn't that long. 676 00:27:26,579 --> 00:27:28,846 Like, right when I started talking to Cody, 677 00:27:28,914 --> 00:27:31,649 I had already terminated my marriage. 678 00:27:31,717 --> 00:27:34,518 Like, he doesn't know, but, like, he was there 679 00:27:34,587 --> 00:27:37,121 when I was just, like, going through that [bleep], 680 00:27:37,189 --> 00:27:39,256 and I wanted to tell him. 681 00:27:39,325 --> 00:27:44,995 But now, I feel like I have no clue who this person is. 682 00:27:45,064 --> 00:27:47,965 - I can understand your-- I don't know if it's guilt 683 00:27:48,034 --> 00:27:52,336 or concern about having not told Cody this. 684 00:27:52,405 --> 00:27:53,837 - Yeah. 685 00:27:53,906 --> 00:27:56,106 - Well, thank you for being honest with us about it. 686 00:27:56,175 --> 00:27:58,475 I get why that would be weighing on you, 687 00:27:58,544 --> 00:27:59,943 but at the same time, 688 00:28:00,012 --> 00:28:02,980 I don't think that it negates all the other things 689 00:28:03,049 --> 00:28:06,150 that this person hasn't been telling you potentially. 690 00:28:06,218 --> 00:28:07,317 - Right. 691 00:28:07,386 --> 00:28:08,686 - I just have a feeling 692 00:28:08,754 --> 00:28:10,921 that their secret is way bigger. 693 00:28:10,990 --> 00:28:13,557 - Yeah. - All right. 694 00:28:13,626 --> 00:28:15,426 Well, look, it feels to me, and I think to us, 695 00:28:15,494 --> 00:28:19,063 that the only person or account 696 00:28:19,131 --> 00:28:22,332 that we know is communicating with you 697 00:28:22,401 --> 00:28:25,335 is the Snapchat account that you've been messaging with 698 00:28:25,404 --> 00:28:26,837 since the beginning of the year. 699 00:28:26,906 --> 00:28:29,373 So whether that's Cody, or someone else, 700 00:28:29,442 --> 00:28:31,408 or a combination of both, 701 00:28:31,477 --> 00:28:35,145 that's who we need to get to talk to us, 702 00:28:35,214 --> 00:28:38,415 and hopefully explain, and reveal all of this. 703 00:28:38,484 --> 00:28:41,452 - Yeah. - So we need to message them. 704 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,487 - I'm worried that if we contact, 705 00:28:43,556 --> 00:28:44,755 they're gonna be like, 706 00:28:44,824 --> 00:28:46,323 "I don't know why you're contacting me," 707 00:28:46,392 --> 00:28:47,691 or just not even respond. 708 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,060 But because you guys have such, like, a deeper-- 709 00:28:50,129 --> 00:28:53,230 - I mean I can try to do it, yeah. 710 00:28:53,299 --> 00:28:55,232 Okay. 711 00:28:55,301 --> 00:28:56,600 Okay, okay. 712 00:28:56,669 --> 00:28:58,168 - All right, something like, 713 00:28:58,237 --> 00:29:02,139 "Hey, I know when we spoke about meeting on 'Catfish,' 714 00:29:02,208 --> 00:29:04,541 "you didn't seem super into it, 715 00:29:04,610 --> 00:29:06,977 "but you mean a lot to me, 716 00:29:07,046 --> 00:29:11,515 and our relationship's really important." 717 00:29:11,584 --> 00:29:14,885 - And then should I say, like, "Nev and Kamie"... 718 00:29:14,954 --> 00:29:17,554 - You can say, "Just want to help us, 719 00:29:17,623 --> 00:29:21,625 but have found some--" I don't want to say info 720 00:29:21,694 --> 00:29:23,961 or concerning-- 721 00:29:24,029 --> 00:29:25,529 - Some strange? - Some strange... 722 00:29:25,598 --> 00:29:29,500 - Some strange. - Things that have me-- 723 00:29:29,568 --> 00:29:32,569 - A little confused. - Right. 724 00:29:32,638 --> 00:29:34,671 And now, I think you should also say, 725 00:29:34,740 --> 00:29:38,909 "I also have something I need to tell you." 726 00:29:38,978 --> 00:29:40,878 I think if you extend that olive branch 727 00:29:40,946 --> 00:29:42,379 that you also feel like 728 00:29:42,448 --> 00:29:44,481 there's something that you haven't been honest about... 729 00:29:44,550 --> 00:29:45,983 - Yeah. 730 00:29:46,051 --> 00:29:48,118 - That might both pique his interest 731 00:29:48,187 --> 00:29:54,024 and make him feel less nervous about telling you something. 732 00:29:54,093 --> 00:29:56,894 - I have something I need to tell you. 733 00:29:56,962 --> 00:29:59,563 - At the end, just say, "We are in a Zoom right now 734 00:29:59,632 --> 00:30:02,900 and would love for you to join." 735 00:30:02,968 --> 00:30:05,502 - I sent it. - I think it's great. 736 00:30:05,571 --> 00:30:07,004 - I think it's good. - Yeah. 737 00:30:07,072 --> 00:30:09,640 - It was good. All right, let's just see. 738 00:30:09,708 --> 00:30:12,810 - Oh, I'm so nervous. 739 00:30:12,878 --> 00:30:14,711 What if he doesn't respond? 740 00:30:14,780 --> 00:30:18,015 - Well, I mean, if he sees it and then doesn't respond, 741 00:30:18,083 --> 00:30:21,819 that is sort of a response, I guess. 742 00:30:21,887 --> 00:30:24,688 - Oh, he's seen it. - Okay, he saw it. 743 00:30:24,757 --> 00:30:28,091 - Oh, my God. - I'm so scared. 744 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,426 - The face there. Does that mean he's, like, 745 00:30:29,495 --> 00:30:30,961 looking at it right now, or is it that he just saw it? 746 00:30:31,030 --> 00:30:35,465 - No. He's on it. - Yeah. 747 00:30:35,534 --> 00:30:37,901 - Oh, my God, he left. 748 00:30:37,970 --> 00:30:42,306 - No! - He didn't say anything. 749 00:30:42,374 --> 00:30:44,007 - Where's my anxiety dog? 750 00:30:44,076 --> 00:30:47,377 Biggie, you're supposed to be helpful. 751 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,714 - Oh, oh, oh, he's typing. He's typing. 752 00:30:50,783 --> 00:30:52,216 - Oh, my God. 753 00:30:56,455 --> 00:30:58,422 - He's in here, so we have to give it to him. 754 00:30:58,490 --> 00:31:00,157 - So say yeah. - Okay. 755 00:31:00,226 --> 00:31:02,125 - And then just say, "The room code is..." 756 00:31:03,829 --> 00:31:06,296 - Oh, my gosh. 757 00:31:06,365 --> 00:31:09,533 - Are you okay? - Yeah, I'm just so nervous. 758 00:31:09,602 --> 00:31:10,901 He's not just gonna pop up, right? 759 00:31:10,970 --> 00:31:12,536 Or will he just pop up? 760 00:31:12,605 --> 00:31:16,240 - He might. - Oh, my God. 761 00:31:17,243 --> 00:31:19,543 [computer chimes] 762 00:31:19,612 --> 00:31:20,811 Oh, my God. 763 00:31:21,914 --> 00:31:22,779 - He's just gonna pop up? - Yeah. 764 00:31:22,848 --> 00:31:25,449 - I'm so nervous. 765 00:31:25,517 --> 00:31:27,718 [gasps] 766 00:31:27,786 --> 00:31:30,153 [computer chimes] Oh, my God. 767 00:31:30,222 --> 00:31:31,555 - Hey. 768 00:31:31,624 --> 00:31:34,858 - Hi! Oh, my God. 769 00:31:34,927 --> 00:31:37,461 - What's up? What's up, girl? 770 00:31:37,529 --> 00:31:39,296 - Oh, my God. 771 00:31:39,365 --> 00:31:40,564 - How's it going? 772 00:31:40,633 --> 00:31:42,599 - I don't know. You tell us. 773 00:31:42,668 --> 00:31:44,801 We're all very confused right now. 774 00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:46,203 - Oh, my God. 775 00:31:46,272 --> 00:31:48,272 - Can you just give me a second here? 776 00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:49,773 [exhales deeply] 777 00:31:49,842 --> 00:31:51,508 You're gorgeous. 778 00:31:51,577 --> 00:31:53,677 - Thank you. - [laughs] 779 00:31:53,746 --> 00:31:56,546 - Well, you are too. - Oh, my God. 780 00:31:56,615 --> 00:31:57,814 - Can we just clear up a couple things? 781 00:31:57,883 --> 00:31:59,449 Because we're just confused. 782 00:31:59,518 --> 00:32:01,985 Why did it take so long for you guys to video chat? 783 00:32:02,054 --> 00:32:03,787 You put yourself on camera all the time. 784 00:32:03,856 --> 00:32:07,190 - Right, but I'm in control of that camera, 785 00:32:07,259 --> 00:32:11,695 and all my little slipups and mess ups are easily fixed 786 00:32:11,764 --> 00:32:13,196 when I'm doing it, 787 00:32:13,265 --> 00:32:15,766 and the anxiety that I get talking to somebody for so long 788 00:32:15,834 --> 00:32:17,434 is so much more intense. 789 00:32:17,503 --> 00:32:19,670 You know, it gets worse, and worse, and worse 790 00:32:19,738 --> 00:32:21,271 the longer you don't do it, 791 00:32:21,340 --> 00:32:23,006 and it becomes harder, and harder, and harder. 792 00:32:23,075 --> 00:32:24,908 - So you were concerned 793 00:32:24,977 --> 00:32:30,781 that she wouldn't be into the unedited version of you? 794 00:32:30,849 --> 00:32:33,483 - Yes, I get into my own head too much, 795 00:32:33,552 --> 00:32:36,987 and it just--it freaks me out that I'm gonna disappoint her. 796 00:32:37,056 --> 00:32:39,156 I have such a fear of losing her 797 00:32:39,224 --> 00:32:43,827 that I back off on advancing the relationship 798 00:32:43,896 --> 00:32:48,498 because I don't want to lose that. 799 00:32:48,567 --> 00:32:49,900 I need that in my life. 800 00:32:49,969 --> 00:32:52,002 - But didn't you think that avoiding meeting 801 00:32:52,071 --> 00:32:55,872 would have eventually have lost you this relationship? 802 00:32:55,941 --> 00:32:57,474 - When you say it like that, I guess so, 803 00:32:57,543 --> 00:33:00,377 but I never really thought about it like that. 804 00:33:00,446 --> 00:33:03,981 I think sometimes my head hasn't been in the right place 805 00:33:04,049 --> 00:33:06,917 to even consider things objectively. 806 00:33:06,986 --> 00:33:08,885 I don't really know how to answer that. 807 00:33:08,954 --> 00:33:11,722 - Okay, but obviously, it was confusing for us. 808 00:33:11,790 --> 00:33:15,425 I'm sure you know we found some strange stuff on the internet. 809 00:33:15,494 --> 00:33:16,927 - I'm sure you did. 810 00:33:16,996 --> 00:33:18,996 - That people have posted making you seem 811 00:33:19,064 --> 00:33:20,297 like a terrible person. 812 00:33:20,366 --> 00:33:23,266 We found a fake Twitter account where--you know, 813 00:33:23,335 --> 00:33:26,336 making you look like a totally racist asshole. 814 00:33:26,405 --> 00:33:28,705 And we were afraid one of those trolls 815 00:33:28,774 --> 00:33:30,340 was the person talking today. 816 00:33:30,409 --> 00:33:32,075 And it doesn't help that we spoke to your mom, 817 00:33:32,144 --> 00:33:34,111 and she told us, as far as she knows, 818 00:33:34,179 --> 00:33:35,779 Saturn [bleep] Films is not your Snapchat. 819 00:33:35,848 --> 00:33:37,147 We're just confused. 820 00:33:37,216 --> 00:33:39,316 - Back in, like, my early days, like, 821 00:33:39,385 --> 00:33:41,385 when I was a teenager, the content 822 00:33:41,453 --> 00:33:44,821 that was popular were people that ranted to a camera. 823 00:33:44,890 --> 00:33:47,724 So I would talk about my political 824 00:33:47,793 --> 00:33:50,193 or my religious beliefs on camera. 825 00:33:50,262 --> 00:33:52,195 And what started happening would be 826 00:33:52,264 --> 00:33:54,998 people would take my clips, and download them, 827 00:33:55,067 --> 00:33:56,833 and then rearrange them to make it sound 828 00:33:56,902 --> 00:33:59,503 like I was saying things that I wasn't. 829 00:33:59,571 --> 00:34:01,104 people were making Andfake accounts about meow, 830 00:34:01,173 --> 00:34:03,006 on various different websites. 831 00:34:03,075 --> 00:34:06,410 So the whole thing with my mom is when stuff 832 00:34:06,478 --> 00:34:08,945 like that started to happen, I would get really sensitive, 833 00:34:09,014 --> 00:34:10,914 and it messed with my mental health really bad. 834 00:34:10,983 --> 00:34:13,116 So when you guys reach out, 835 00:34:13,185 --> 00:34:15,852 my mom is not gonna give you my information, 836 00:34:15,921 --> 00:34:17,554 because she's seen how much stuff 837 00:34:17,623 --> 00:34:18,955 like that has affected me. 838 00:34:19,024 --> 00:34:21,725 - You gave Dey a phone number. 839 00:34:21,794 --> 00:34:24,094 Why does that phone number come back 840 00:34:24,163 --> 00:34:26,029 to your ex-girlfriend Lena? 841 00:34:26,098 --> 00:34:29,066 - My ex and I are on pretty friendly terms, 842 00:34:29,134 --> 00:34:30,867 and we're on the same line 843 00:34:30,936 --> 00:34:32,536 because it makes both of our bills cheaper. 844 00:34:32,604 --> 00:34:34,104 - So you got it as part of a group plan 845 00:34:34,173 --> 00:34:36,907 with your then girlfriend? 846 00:34:36,975 --> 00:34:39,042 - Well, it's kind of hard to even say what we were. 847 00:34:39,111 --> 00:34:40,744 We were so on-again, off-again. 848 00:34:40,813 --> 00:34:44,114 - When did you split for real? - February sometime. 849 00:34:44,183 --> 00:34:46,483 I'd say, like, maybe a little after Valentine's 850 00:34:46,552 --> 00:34:48,552 is when it was finally, like, kaput. 851 00:34:48,620 --> 00:34:51,154 - 'Cause you posted a lot of pictures of her since then. 852 00:34:51,223 --> 00:34:52,355 - 'Cause we're still friendly, 853 00:34:52,424 --> 00:34:54,024 and she's one of my main models. 854 00:34:54,093 --> 00:34:55,158 - So that's it? 855 00:34:55,227 --> 00:34:56,560 You weren't lying about anything? 856 00:34:56,628 --> 00:35:01,064 Is there anything else that Dey should know? 857 00:35:01,133 --> 00:35:02,766 - Just that I'm sorry. 858 00:35:02,835 --> 00:35:04,835 I realize a lot of this could have been cleared up, 859 00:35:04,903 --> 00:35:07,003 and I kind of feel like a big wuss now. 860 00:35:07,072 --> 00:35:10,474 She's so beautiful. She's so fun to talk to. 861 00:35:10,542 --> 00:35:12,375 She's eloquent. She's interesting. 862 00:35:12,444 --> 00:35:13,510 She's artistic. 863 00:35:13,579 --> 00:35:16,279 I have, like, intense feelings for her. 864 00:35:16,348 --> 00:35:18,215 - Oh, my God. 865 00:35:18,283 --> 00:35:20,417 - Do you mind, Cody, if we check in with Dey 866 00:35:20,486 --> 00:35:22,919 for a second, and we'll reconvene? 867 00:35:22,988 --> 00:35:24,454 - Okay, that sounds good. 868 00:35:24,523 --> 00:35:25,555 - All right, we'll see you in a minute. 869 00:35:25,624 --> 00:35:26,556 - All right. 870 00:35:26,625 --> 00:35:27,891 - Damn, Dey. 871 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,760 - Oh, my God. I can't believe he's real. 872 00:35:30,829 --> 00:35:32,062 - I can't believe you were right. 873 00:35:32,131 --> 00:35:34,397 - Now we finally talk to the guy. 874 00:35:34,466 --> 00:35:35,398 - Yeah. 875 00:35:35,467 --> 00:35:36,566 - You've now heard all of this. 876 00:35:37,803 --> 00:35:40,437 I mean, what was your first sort of gut reaction 877 00:35:40,506 --> 00:35:43,573 to interacting with him in person? 878 00:35:43,642 --> 00:35:45,275 - I'm so happy. 879 00:35:45,344 --> 00:35:47,911 - So this is a full steam ahead green light, 880 00:35:47,980 --> 00:35:48,912 you want to make this happen? 881 00:35:48,981 --> 00:35:50,580 - I definitely want to, yeah. 882 00:35:50,649 --> 00:35:54,751 - Great, I'm excited for you, but I also think now is 883 00:35:54,820 --> 00:35:58,321 the moment for you to tell him that you were married. 884 00:35:58,390 --> 00:36:00,590 It's impossible to tell how he's gonna react, 885 00:36:00,659 --> 00:36:03,760 especially since he didn't really lie about stuff, 886 00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:07,330 but it's only gonna get harder to tell him if you wait. 887 00:36:07,399 --> 00:36:09,933 - Okay. - I'm gonna bring him back in. 888 00:36:10,002 --> 00:36:11,801 - Okay. 889 00:36:11,870 --> 00:36:13,069 - Hey, what's going on? 890 00:36:13,138 --> 00:36:18,508 - Yeah, so... 891 00:36:18,577 --> 00:36:24,214 okay, so I do have something I want to tell you. 892 00:36:24,283 --> 00:36:28,285 This past year, I was seeing somebody, 893 00:36:28,353 --> 00:36:31,321 and in January, he proposed to me. 894 00:36:31,390 --> 00:36:33,290 - Whoa. 895 00:36:33,358 --> 00:36:35,859 - And then we were married within, like, a week. 896 00:36:35,928 --> 00:36:37,260 - Wait, what? 897 00:36:37,329 --> 00:36:39,763 - And immediately, I regretted it. 898 00:36:39,831 --> 00:36:43,166 We're getting a divorce already, but it happened. 899 00:36:43,235 --> 00:36:47,170 - That's a lot to take in, like, all at once. 900 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,873 [tense music] 901 00:36:49,942 --> 00:36:52,842 Huh. 902 00:36:52,911 --> 00:36:56,613 Well, that--it does hurt my feelings. 903 00:36:56,682 --> 00:36:59,683 I'm not gonna lie. 904 00:36:59,751 --> 00:37:01,218 I wish you would have told me that. 905 00:37:01,286 --> 00:37:03,153 I understand why you wouldn't want to, 906 00:37:03,222 --> 00:37:06,456 but I wish you would have. 907 00:37:06,525 --> 00:37:07,924 Yeah. 908 00:37:07,993 --> 00:37:12,629 Can I have a second just to, like, process that in my brain? 909 00:37:12,698 --> 00:37:13,763 - Sure. 910 00:37:16,702 --> 00:37:18,368 - Oh, my God. 911 00:37:20,072 --> 00:37:21,871 - Can I have a second just to, like, process that in my brain? 912 00:37:24,042 --> 00:37:25,742 - Oh, my God. 913 00:37:27,512 --> 00:37:28,712 - Here's the thing. 914 00:37:28,780 --> 00:37:33,416 This is a part of not communicating properly 915 00:37:33,485 --> 00:37:35,452 and actually meeting in person 916 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,554 because when you don't do that, 917 00:37:37,623 --> 00:37:40,090 and it has been so long--it's been over a decade. 918 00:37:40,158 --> 00:37:42,859 The thing about spending years apart from someone 919 00:37:42,928 --> 00:37:44,227 that you have never met in person, 920 00:37:44,296 --> 00:37:47,030 and you guys live in two completely different places 921 00:37:47,099 --> 00:37:51,501 is that you're fully in the right to live your life. 922 00:37:51,570 --> 00:37:56,072 [tense music] 923 00:38:00,479 --> 00:38:01,745 - I... 924 00:38:01,813 --> 00:38:03,580 I'm not mad at you, like, at all. 925 00:38:03,649 --> 00:38:04,981 I understand. 926 00:38:05,050 --> 00:38:08,184 I've been a compulsive person myself in the past. 927 00:38:08,253 --> 00:38:09,619 I'm not judging. 928 00:38:09,688 --> 00:38:12,789 I'd like to believe I know how your brain operates 929 00:38:12,858 --> 00:38:14,791 due to the way we've talked. 930 00:38:15,994 --> 00:38:17,260 - And that sounds like something I could have 931 00:38:17,329 --> 00:38:21,765 totally done myself, so... 932 00:38:21,833 --> 00:38:25,135 I don't have the ability to judge you. 933 00:38:25,203 --> 00:38:29,139 - Do you see, now, why I always just, like, hang on? 934 00:38:29,207 --> 00:38:30,573 He says things and I'm like, 935 00:38:30,642 --> 00:38:32,742 "Okay, thank you for understanding me." 936 00:38:32,811 --> 00:38:35,045 - Well, so how are we gonna make this work? 937 00:38:35,113 --> 00:38:36,212 Do you want this? 938 00:38:36,281 --> 00:38:38,615 - I absolutely do. 939 00:38:38,684 --> 00:38:41,384 It feels like I've already squandered an opportunity 940 00:38:41,453 --> 00:38:42,519 for a long time. 941 00:38:42,587 --> 00:38:45,322 I don't want to keep doing that. 942 00:38:45,390 --> 00:38:47,223 - We just have to meet and then, 943 00:38:47,292 --> 00:38:50,093 you know, it'll work out. 944 00:38:50,162 --> 00:38:51,394 - I feel angry with myself 945 00:38:51,463 --> 00:38:53,229 because I'm already more comfortable 946 00:38:53,298 --> 00:38:54,698 with talking to you here, 947 00:38:54,766 --> 00:38:56,599 and I just couldn't do it. 948 00:38:56,668 --> 00:38:58,468 I don't know why. 949 00:38:58,537 --> 00:39:00,036 - You know what my therapist says? 950 00:39:00,105 --> 00:39:01,838 She says we can't be worried about the past. 951 00:39:01,907 --> 00:39:04,207 All we can worry about is how we're going to move forward, 952 00:39:04,276 --> 00:39:09,012 so beating up on yourself about the past however many years 953 00:39:09,081 --> 00:39:12,382 is not going to get us where we need to go. 954 00:39:12,451 --> 00:39:16,419 - I'm really happy. - I'm glad. 955 00:39:16,488 --> 00:39:18,922 I'm sorry for not doing it sooner. 956 00:39:18,990 --> 00:39:20,423 - It's okay. 957 00:39:20,492 --> 00:39:22,359 - My anxiety is going down a little bit, 958 00:39:22,427 --> 00:39:23,593 but I'm still like, 959 00:39:23,662 --> 00:39:25,295 "Man, she's actually looking at my face now." 960 00:39:25,364 --> 00:39:28,365 Like, she's hearing my words. She's looking at my face. 961 00:39:28,433 --> 00:39:29,599 Like, what is she actually thinking? 962 00:39:29,668 --> 00:39:33,436 - I want to meet you tomorrow. 963 00:39:33,505 --> 00:39:36,039 - I want to meet you right now. 964 00:39:36,108 --> 00:39:38,575 - Iowa or L.A.? Who's flying where? 965 00:39:38,643 --> 00:39:40,944 - Let's go. - I'm down, I'm in. 966 00:39:41,012 --> 00:39:43,446 - Well, it sounds like both-- it's certainly time. 967 00:39:43,515 --> 00:39:46,249 - The day has come. 968 00:39:46,318 --> 00:39:50,019 - Look, we'll let you guys start your next chapter now. 969 00:39:50,088 --> 00:39:51,821 Obviously, it can be over FaceTime. 970 00:39:51,890 --> 00:39:53,523 - We should FaceTime tonight maybe. 971 00:39:53,592 --> 00:39:55,458 - [laughs] Okay. 972 00:39:55,527 --> 00:39:57,627 - There you go. FaceTime tonight. 973 00:39:57,696 --> 00:39:59,496 - That still feels weird for me to say, 974 00:39:59,564 --> 00:40:01,898 but I think I'm prepared. 975 00:40:01,967 --> 00:40:04,267 - I'm excited. - I want to make a request. 976 00:40:04,336 --> 00:40:09,406 When this episode airs, I want it to end with photos 977 00:40:09,474 --> 00:40:12,976 from whatever trip you guys plan in the near future. 978 00:40:13,044 --> 00:40:14,944 - I want to do that. - We'll make it happen. 979 00:40:15,013 --> 00:40:17,914 - Well, good luck. - Yay! 980 00:40:17,983 --> 00:40:19,349 - I'll talk to you soon. - Bye. 981 00:40:19,418 --> 00:40:20,517 - Bye. - Bye. 982 00:40:20,585 --> 00:40:21,718 - Later. 983 00:40:21,787 --> 00:40:23,920 - There it is. Can you believe it? 984 00:40:24,856 --> 00:40:26,656 We did it, Biggie! We did it. 985 00:40:26,725 --> 00:40:30,627 Come here. Oh, come--oh, no. 986 00:40:30,695 --> 00:40:33,863 - ♪ I feel so, I feel so ♪ 987 00:40:33,932 --> 00:40:38,501 ♪ I feel so free, feel so free ♪ 988 00:40:38,570 --> 00:40:43,106 ♪ ♪ 989 00:40:54,853 --> 00:40:55,485 [upbeat mu 990 00:40:55,554 --> 00:40:56,553 - Kailan and Jordan met 991 00:40:56,621 --> 00:40:57,954 when they were 11 years old. 992 00:40:58,023 --> 00:41:01,391 - He's every single thing I want in a man. 993 00:41:01,460 --> 00:41:02,892 - Oh, we got a Twitter account. 994 00:41:02,961 --> 00:41:04,661 - [gasps] - Tahj. 995 00:41:04,729 --> 00:41:06,229 - Who the hell is Tahj? 996 00:41:06,298 --> 00:41:09,299 - There's no evidence that a Jordan exists. 997 00:41:10,335 --> 00:41:12,068 [- Oh, [bleep].s] - Hello, who's there? 998 00:41:12,137 --> 00:41:13,336 [dramatic music]