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amed Treyvon
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who he met on a hookup app.
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- I felt like I had found
that other half of me.
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It was amazing,
but I'm engaged right now.
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- Oh, my goodness.
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- Let's check out
his fiancé's page.
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- They seem pretty happy.
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- Yeah. Now, I feel bad.
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- I just need to know
who this is.
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- If Aaron wants the truth,
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he's gonna have to start
telling the truth.
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- [gasps]
It's a trap.
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[dramatic musical sting]
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- Okay, crew is rolling.
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- Rolling.
- Hey.
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- Hey, what's up, Kamie?
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- Hello.
- We're allowed to hug?
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- Yeah, we're vaccinated.
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- I'm so glad to be vaccinated.
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- It is--it is nice.
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Before we start,
Cleo wants to say hi.
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- Hi.
- Hey.
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- Cleo.
Cleo, you look fabulous.
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What is the good news?
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- Shut up.
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Aww. Oh, my God. Really?
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- She's been tired more
than a few days.
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- Yes.
- Aww. Oh, my God.
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Wait, what are we having?
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Oh, my God.
- Yeah.
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- Oh, you guys, stop,
because it's too early.
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You know, I have makeup on.
I'ma cry. I'm sweating now.
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- It's coming September 2021.
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- Thank you, Cleo.
That news made my entire week.
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- All right, we gotta go.
I love you guys.
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- Bye.
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- I cannot believe
you didn't tell me.
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- I didn't tell anyone.
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- This is so exciting
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'cause I wasn't there
when you announced Beau.
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Beau I was already, like,
cooking up.
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- Yeah, that's right.
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- This is my first
Schulman baby.
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- This is your first shot
at a godmother's spot.
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- Oh, I'm taking it fully.
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1,000%. That's my job.
This is so great.
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- Come on.
- Oh, my God.
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Ah, I love babies.
They smell so good.
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- Another set of Schulman
brothers on the way.
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- I'm so happy.
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- All right,
new email just came in.
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"I'm 30 from Dallas, Texas, and
I'm reaching out to you guys,
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because I am in a hairy
pickle,"
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which are two words
that I would normally...
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- The image that I have
in my head...
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- Really want to put together.
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- I would like to not
imagine that. Thank you.
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- "About nine months ago,
I met Treyvon on a hookup app.
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"I was just out of a breakup
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"and it wasn't looking
for anything serious,
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but immediately we hit it off
with mad vibes.
"
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- ♪ If you wanna love ♪
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♪ If you wanna live ♪
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- "After a couple of days
of chatting,
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"I was ready to meet
but Trey wasn't comfortable
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"meeting in person
because of COVID.
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"So we just kept chatting,
and he surprised me.
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"I'd never met anyone
who understands me
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"as if we're split
from the same body.
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I'm head over heels for this
guy with mad feelings."
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♪ ♪
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- It's mad vibes, mad feelings,
mad crazy.
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- I like this guy's language.
"I put forth many efforts
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"to talk on the phone,
videochat, and meet up,
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"but he always has an excuse
and it never happens.
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"I was thrilled when he finally
did ask me to meet up,
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"but that resulted in getting
stood up,
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"and it did make me
start to question Treyvon.
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"But then something happened
in my life
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that made me question my future
with Treyvon altogether."
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He's not going to tell us
what it was?
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- Right.
I'm like, "What is it?"
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- God. Okay.
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- "But despite that,
couldn't stop talking to him.
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"I'm in a really bad situation
right now,
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"and I don't know what to do.
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"I've been keeping a secret
from Treyvon,
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"and I'm nervous to reveal it.
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"You're my only hope
at happiness.
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Thanks, Aaron."
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Wow, this is a very dramatic
email.
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- What is the secret?
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- Let's shoot him a text.
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We just read your email
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and are mad excited to help.
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- Aaron, what is the secret?
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[computer chimes]
- Oh.
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both: Hey.
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- Hey.
- How are you? How's Dallas?
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- Oh, wow. Dallas.
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It's something new and exciting
and different every day.
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I can tell you that.
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- Have you always lived
in Dallas?
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- No, I'm actually
from Mississippi,
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and I moved out here to Dallas
about five years ago
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following an event
and sales coordinator job.
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- How's that going?
- Event.
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Sales aren't as great as before
due to COVID.
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- Yeah, there hasn't been
a lot of that lately.
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- Yeah.
- So okay.
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So we just read your email.
I don't know where to start.
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- So about nine months ago,
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I met Treyvon
on a hookup site.
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I had just recently
got out of a relationship,
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so I wasn't really looking
for anything serious.
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Just kind of like
sow my royal oats as they say.
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Right. See, she gets it.
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So anyway, I'm there,
and I'm just looking,
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but I met Treyvon,
and I actually liked this guy.
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I felt like there was
a connection,
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and we really just hit it off.
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We really vibed.
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I love ancient Greek mythology,
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and I don't know
if you guys ever heard
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there was a thing that humans
used to have two heads,
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one body, they shared a heart.
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But Zeus sent down
a thunderbolt,
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split everyone in half,
and they kind of spent
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their life
looking for their other half.
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I felt like I had found
that other half of me
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as someone that understood
what I wanted.
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It was amazing.
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- And you guys both live near
each other in Dallas, right?
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- Yeah, he's in Dallas,
but we made several attempts
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to meet up,
and everything got shot down.
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So after so many
disappointments with that,
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I resumed talking to my ex.
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- We got back together,
and then he proposed to me.
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- Wow.
- So are you engaged right now?
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- I'm engaged right now,
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but I didn't stop
talking to Treyvon.
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- You have a ring?
- I have a ring.
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Yeah, and I'm torn
between two people,
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and I don't wanna miss
my opportunity at being happy
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with someone
I feel like understands me
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and knows me rather than
settling for just what I have.
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- Well, Aaron, there are
probably women in the world
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who if I met
I would fall in love with,
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but I made a [bleep] choice
to be with my wife.
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- That part.
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- So if you're not ready
to make that commitment--
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- Well, we're not married yet.
We're engaged.
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- Well, okay, that's true.
- So I do have that time.
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- Look, one of them gotta go.
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- At the end of the year
one does
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have to go, and that's why
I needed your help to find out.
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am I making the right choice?
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- So you and your fiancé,
do you guys live together now?
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- Yes.
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- So where is he?
- Work.
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- So we're helping you
be sneaky right now.
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Now you've got us caught up
in this [bleep].
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- So wait. So tell us
about Treyvon. What's his deal?
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- So he lives in Dallas.
He's a very attractive guy.
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28 29.
Works at a convenience store.
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- Do you know
what convenience store it is?
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- No, I have been
in a couple, like, you know,
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looking around trying
to see their different shifts.
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- Maybe he was
in one of those stores,
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but you just didn't know
what he looked like.
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- See, now, you're--you're
trying to convince me
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that he's not the person
that's in that picture.
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- First of all,
you called us, all right?
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I don't know if you know
what the show is called.
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It's called "Catfish."
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This is not where people come
to meet the love of their life.
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This is where they come to
find out they're being lied to.
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- Not all the time.
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- See, she's on my side.
- I don't know what to think.
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Who messaged who first?
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- That was me.
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- Are you talking on the phone,
or are you texting mostly?
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- We started off messages,
and I felt comfortable enough
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to give him my personal number.
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- For texting?
- Yeah.
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- Have you ever talked
on the phone?
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- No, we haven't talked
on the phone.
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- How have you never talked
on the phone?
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- I got back with my ex,
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so I wasn't thinking
about the calls.
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- Can't make any calls.
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- Exactly.
You can't really make them,
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and then if you have
to make them,
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you gotta make them when you're
at work or something like that.
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- Mm.
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- Wow.
- Your conversations
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with Treyvon,
have they ever gotten heated?
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- Oh, yeah, we--
those were--
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those were the beginning
conversations,
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which for me at the time of not
looking for something serious,
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I was more interested
in the hot, spicy conversation,
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and it went
in a different route.
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- So what's the excuse?
Why can't he meet up?
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- In the beginning,
it started off with the COVID,
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and then it came to be
a lot about work.
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He'll make plans like,
"Oh, let's meet up tonight
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once you get off,"
and then I get off work,
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and then I don't get
a message back.
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And then the next day I hear,
"Oh, I got really tired.
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I took a nap."
I feel like
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he's in a relationship
possibly hisself.
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I don't necessarily think
he's a catfish.
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I just think he has to do
the same things I have to do.
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- An entanglement.
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- Yeah,
Will and Jada entanglement.
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- What about social media?
Does he have accounts?
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Does he post pictures?
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- I asked for his social media,
and I never got it.
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- Is his dating profile
still up?
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- I had to delete it, Kamie.
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- 'Cause you're engaged.
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- Yeah.
- You're right.
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- Let's see this guy.
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I wanna see
what Treyvon looks like.
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Wow, okay. There he is.
- Ohh.
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- See, he is cute, right?
- He is cute.
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- Nice, handsome face.
- Mm-hmm.
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- So he texted these to you?
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- Yeah.
- So here's my question.
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If we connect with Treyvon
and it is him
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and he does live in Dallas
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and he reveals to you
that he was sort of
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in a relationship;
that's over now,
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and he wants to be with you,
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are you going to break
things off with your fiancé?
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What's your plan?
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- My plan is to meet up
with him
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and fill it out
and see where it goes,
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but the way I feel about him,
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I feel like I'm probably
gonna end the engagement
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and move forward with Treyvon.
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- But don't you think that
you should do that anyway?
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Maybe this is all a sign
that your fiancé is not the one
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that you're supposed
to have that with.
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- I can make that decision
afterwards.
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I want a little
more information.
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- Okay.
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- Part of me feels like
at some point
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while we're
making this episode,
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you should talk to your fiancé.
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I just feel like
everyone should know the truth.
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- Everyone does deserve
to know the truth,
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but let's play it by ear.
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- Okay. All right.
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So look, you just sent us
an email with all the info,
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and we'll start
doing some research
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and hopefully find something.
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- Okay.
- All right, later, Aaron.
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- Bye.
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- I don't see things
ending well for Aaron.
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The crazy thing is, if we meet
Treyvon, and he is real,
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and he finds out that Aaron
has been lying to him,
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Treyvon may not even
wanna be with Aaron.
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There's really no way
this works out for Aaron.
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- No, he's gonna have to get
a new apartment.
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- He's gonna have
to leave Texas.
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- [laughs]
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[bleep] is about to get ugly.
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- We're back.
- It's a [bleep] situation.
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- It is a hairy pickle
for sure.
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We got Aaron who's been talking
to a guy in Treyvon
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who we met on a hookup app.
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When they started talking,
Aaron was single having
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just recently broken up
with his boyfriend.
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Talked for a few months.
Things were getting
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hot and heavy.
They were excited to meet up,
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but Treyvon kept
coming up with excuses,
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and then Aaron and his ex
got back together.
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The ex proposed, and Aaron said
yes, so they were now engaged,
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but Aaron's still talking to
Treyvon and feels a connection
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to Treyvon that's stronger
and more romantic
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than he feels for his fiancé
whom he lives with.
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- I am sure that Aaron's fiancé
is lovely,
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but that engagement
needs to end.
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I don't even necessarily
want Aaron with Treyvon.
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I just need him to be single.
287
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- Yeah. All right.
So let's see what we got here.
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Here's an email from Aaron.
All right.
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"Hey, Nev and Kamie, thanks
for talking with me today.
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"Here's the info
I have on Treyvon.
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"His last name is Allen,
and he lives in Dallas, Texas.
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"Here's his phone number.
Doesn't have any social media,
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"but I've attached
the pictures he sent me.
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Here's hoping, Aaron."
295
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All right, let's--I wanna
start with the pictures.
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So here's the first one.
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Okay, nothing there.
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Nothing.
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- Mm-hmm.
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Nothing.
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- Augh.
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All right,
we got one more picture.
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Dang.
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All right, so nothing comes
back with the pictures. Bummer.
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- I wanna see Aaron's Facebook,
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'cause I just feel like
we have to
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do all the things.
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- So here's Aaron.
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- Aaron. Where's his boo?
- Oh, look.
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Right here. He's engaged.
Hakeem Davenport.
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- March 26. "I just have too
much fun with him"
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with a heart,
and then his fiancé
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Hakeem wrote,
"Love you my bad bunny."
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00:13:05,585 --> 00:13:08,753
- Okay, let's check out
his fiancé's page. Here he is.
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00:13:08,822 --> 00:13:10,255
Wow.
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- He got Aaron's name
put on his manicure?
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I have not put a boy's name
on my manicure in years.
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- You've done that?
- Yeah, in, like, high school.
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- Oh, my God.
320
00:13:22,135 --> 00:13:23,268
- That's how you know
it's real,
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00:13:23,336 --> 00:13:24,836
'cause that gotta last,
like, three weeks.
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00:13:24,905 --> 00:13:26,504
- I mean,
they seem pretty happy.
323
00:13:26,573 --> 00:13:27,806
- I mean, yeah.
324
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Now I feel bad.
Why did we come on his page?
325
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- That's what I said.
- Whose idea was this?
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00:13:31,778 --> 00:13:33,144
- I was already feeling bad.
327
00:13:33,213 --> 00:13:34,946
But now I have to
actually see the fiancé
328
00:13:35,015 --> 00:13:37,015
and like
how cute they are together.
329
00:13:37,083 --> 00:13:38,950
Yeah. What else do we have?
330
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Let's check
the old phone number.
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00:13:42,289 --> 00:13:45,857
What?
Caller name Paris [bleep].
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00:13:45,926 --> 00:13:47,425
- But it also says
Bandwidth.com.
333
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- I know, and that's a landline
in Texas 38.
334
00:13:52,699 --> 00:13:54,933
Wow, very interesting.
335
00:13:55,001 --> 00:13:58,703
- Is Paris a guy? Is Paris not?
- Maybe.
336
00:13:58,772 --> 00:14:02,440
Whoa, ten previous addresses?
Buffalo, Mount Vernon.
337
00:14:02,509 --> 00:14:03,875
- He's been getting around.
338
00:14:03,944 --> 00:14:05,643
- Why is it coming up
as a landline?
339
00:14:05,712 --> 00:14:07,712
- I don't think we've ever seen
that where it's come up
340
00:14:07,781 --> 00:14:08,947
as a text app number
341
00:14:09,015 --> 00:14:11,115
and also has
a name attached to it.
342
00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:13,351
- That is so weird. All right,
we gotta look this up.
343
00:14:13,420 --> 00:14:17,522
Let's do a little Facebook
search of Paris [bleep].
344
00:14:17,591 --> 00:14:19,557
Let's see. Here's a Buffalo.
345
00:14:19,626 --> 00:14:22,627
That was one of the cities that
the phone number linked to.
346
00:14:22,696 --> 00:14:26,331
And the fact that there's a guy
named Paris in Buffalo
347
00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:27,999
and the fact that he's
in Buffalo would explain
348
00:14:28,068 --> 00:14:30,568
why he can't meet up.
349
00:14:30,637 --> 00:14:33,738
- And look, he's in
a relationship with Charlene,
350
00:14:33,807 --> 00:14:35,206
but maybe he's bi.
351
00:14:35,275 --> 00:14:37,675
- So they might--
- He would have a secret.
352
00:14:37,744 --> 00:14:39,077
They both have a secret.
353
00:14:39,145 --> 00:14:41,045
- Well, and Aaron
would be right
354
00:14:41,114 --> 00:14:43,248
that may be the reason
he's having a hard time
355
00:14:43,316 --> 00:14:45,850
connecting with Treyvon is
because he's in a relationship.
356
00:14:45,919 --> 00:14:47,585
- Mm-hmm.
357
00:14:47,654 --> 00:14:51,155
- We have a lead potentially
with Paris, and we connected it
358
00:14:51,224 --> 00:14:55,093
to an account for this guy
who says he lives in Buffalo
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00:14:55,161 --> 00:14:57,295
but potentially could be
who we're looking for.
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00:14:57,364 --> 00:15:01,065
- Mm-hmm. The fact that the
phone search came back saying
361
00:15:01,134 --> 00:15:04,702
that whoever Paris is also
had a Buffalo address,
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00:15:04,771 --> 00:15:06,771
I just feel like it's, like--
363
00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,473
- Right. It is certainly
364
00:15:08,541 --> 00:15:12,176
looking like
this--this guy is a suspect.
365
00:15:12,245 --> 00:15:15,113
- Or it is the real
Treyvon Allen in the pictures.
366
00:15:15,181 --> 00:15:17,181
We just can't find him,
and he's shy
367
00:15:17,250 --> 00:15:19,083
and doesn't wanna meet up yet.
368
00:15:19,152 --> 00:15:20,952
- Right.
- Could also be the case.
369
00:15:21,021 --> 00:15:23,621
- Or he's in a relationship.
370
00:15:23,690 --> 00:15:26,424
It's really him, but he's just
got something else going on...
371
00:15:26,493 --> 00:15:27,458
- Right.
372
00:15:27,527 --> 00:15:29,527
- Like Aaron has
something else going on.
373
00:15:29,596 --> 00:15:32,664
- Speaking of which,
I don't feel like Aaron
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00:15:32,732 --> 00:15:35,400
is giving Hakeem his fiancé
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00:15:35,468 --> 00:15:38,403
a real picture of
what's actually been going on,
376
00:15:38,471 --> 00:15:40,371
because he's over here
playing house
377
00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,140
while he's got, like,
this whole other life
378
00:15:42,208 --> 00:15:43,775
that he's living
somewhere else.
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00:15:43,843 --> 00:15:47,011
I don't think that his fiancé
is prepared for any of this.
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00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,546
Like, this is gonna be
a complete ambush.
381
00:15:48,615 --> 00:15:51,316
- Look, the reality here is,
if Aaron wants the truth,
382
00:15:51,384 --> 00:15:54,352
he's gonna have to start
telling the truth.
383
00:15:58,992 --> 00:16:01,159
- Let's get back in touch
with Aaron
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00:16:01,227 --> 00:16:03,695
and see if we can't get
to the bottom of this.
385
00:16:03,763 --> 00:16:05,964
So let me text Aaron
a Zoom link.
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00:16:06,032 --> 00:16:07,999
- I don't know why I have
a feeling that when Aaron
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00:16:08,068 --> 00:16:09,867
hears the phone number
comes back to that guy
388
00:16:09,936 --> 00:16:12,537
Paris [bleep] that we found,
he's gonna know who it is.
389
00:16:12,605 --> 00:16:14,973
I just feel like
there's a connection.
390
00:16:15,041 --> 00:16:16,074
[computer chimes]
391
00:16:16,142 --> 00:16:18,209
- Hey, guys.
- Hey, what's up, man?
392
00:16:18,278 --> 00:16:20,211
What have you been up
to these last few hours?
393
00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,781
- Oh, man, just ripping
the seat and wondering.
394
00:16:23,850 --> 00:16:25,116
- Well...
395
00:16:25,185 --> 00:16:27,285
- We did some research.
We have some information.
396
00:16:27,354 --> 00:16:30,288
We're not sure really
what it means, but hopefully,
397
00:16:30,357 --> 00:16:32,890
you can actually help
make some sense out of it.
398
00:16:32,959 --> 00:16:35,760
- Okay.
- So I'm gonna share my screen
399
00:16:35,829 --> 00:16:39,430
and show
you kind of what we did.
400
00:16:39,499 --> 00:16:41,265
So we ran all the pictures,
and none of them
401
00:16:41,334 --> 00:16:42,934
came back with any results.
402
00:16:43,003 --> 00:16:45,536
Now, here's where
it gets interesting.
403
00:16:45,605 --> 00:16:47,171
We ran the phone number.
404
00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,272
- Okay.
405
00:16:48,341 --> 00:16:50,742
- And the phone number
came back
406
00:16:50,810 --> 00:16:53,811
to someone named Paris [bleep].
407
00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,880
Now, does that name mean
anything to you?
408
00:16:55,949 --> 00:16:59,317
- Hell freaking yeah.
- I told you.
409
00:16:59,386 --> 00:17:02,153
I told you it would.
Okay, tell, tell us, tell us,
410
00:17:02,222 --> 00:17:04,355
tell us, tell us,
tell us, tell us, tell us.
411
00:17:04,424 --> 00:17:06,724
- That's my fiancé.
412
00:17:06,793 --> 00:17:08,626
- What?
- Yeah.
413
00:17:08,695 --> 00:17:10,061
- Shut up. Wait.
414
00:17:10,130 --> 00:17:12,163
I thought your fiancé's name
was Hakeem.
415
00:17:12,232 --> 00:17:14,932
- That's his stage name.
416
00:17:15,001 --> 00:17:17,902
- His stage name
is Hakeem Davenport.
417
00:17:17,971 --> 00:17:19,871
His real name is Paris [bleep]
418
00:17:19,939 --> 00:17:23,141
- Oh, my God.
Wait a second. So--
419
00:17:23,209 --> 00:17:24,342
- Aaron.
420
00:17:24,411 --> 00:17:27,712
- Okay, okay, okay, okay,
okay, okay, okay, okay.
421
00:17:27,781 --> 00:17:30,548
- That's your fiancé's
actual name?
422
00:17:30,617 --> 00:17:31,983
- Yeah.
423
00:17:32,052 --> 00:17:37,088
- Well, then I guess
Treyvon is your fiancé,
424
00:17:37,157 --> 00:17:40,391
because the phone number
comes back to that name.
425
00:17:40,460 --> 00:17:41,959
Oh, my goodness.
426
00:17:42,028 --> 00:17:43,661
- The pickle
is no longer hairy.
427
00:17:43,730 --> 00:17:45,863
The pickle is on fire.
428
00:17:45,932 --> 00:17:47,398
- Why does he go
by Hakeem Davenport?
429
00:17:47,467 --> 00:17:51,302
- Davenport is a drag last name
- Oh, it is? Okay.
430
00:17:51,371 --> 00:17:52,437
- Wow.
431
00:17:52,505 --> 00:17:54,005
- What's going
through your mind?
432
00:17:54,074 --> 00:17:56,040
- I honestly don't understand
if that is him,
433
00:17:56,109 --> 00:17:58,609
why would you do that
instead of just coming to me?
434
00:17:58,678 --> 00:18:02,280
And if you wanted to get
on a--a more intimate side
435
00:18:02,348 --> 00:18:04,549
of getting to know me
and knowing what I like
436
00:18:04,617 --> 00:18:06,517
and what it is that I want
and wanna be,
437
00:18:06,586 --> 00:18:10,822
just come to me and give me
the opportunity to talk to you.
438
00:18:10,890 --> 00:18:12,523
Why did you have to be
someone else
439
00:18:12,592 --> 00:18:14,025
and then keep up a charade
440
00:18:14,094 --> 00:18:18,229
and have me wondering am I torn
between two people
441
00:18:18,298 --> 00:18:21,399
or am I just torn between
a crazy-ass person, you know?
442
00:18:21,468 --> 00:18:25,870
- Now, wait a second.
I'm obviously with you all
443
00:18:25,939 --> 00:18:27,438
in assuming
that it is your fiancé,
444
00:18:27,507 --> 00:18:29,173
but at the same time,
445
00:18:29,242 --> 00:18:31,742
the phone search indicated
the number is a text app,
446
00:18:31,811 --> 00:18:33,978
and I don't think we've ever
seen a text app number
447
00:18:34,047 --> 00:18:35,913
come back with a name attached.
- Right.
448
00:18:35,982 --> 00:18:37,882
- Could someone have done that
on purpose?
449
00:18:37,951 --> 00:18:39,417
Like, is there someone
who could potentially
450
00:18:39,486 --> 00:18:40,885
be messing with you?
451
00:18:40,954 --> 00:18:43,154
- Right.
Because if I'm your fiancé
452
00:18:43,223 --> 00:18:46,724
and if I see now
that you're still trying
453
00:18:46,793 --> 00:18:48,126
to carry
on a relationship with me
454
00:18:48,194 --> 00:18:50,661
as Treyvon
I'm outing you right there.
455
00:18:50,730 --> 00:18:53,831
- If that is him,
why would you keep it going on?
456
00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:56,200
- And it is weird that
when he registered
457
00:18:56,269 --> 00:18:58,703
that text app number
he put his real name.
458
00:18:58,771 --> 00:19:02,807
- Right. Could someone
be trying to make it seem
459
00:19:02,876 --> 00:19:04,909
like they're your fiancé
talking to you
460
00:19:04,978 --> 00:19:06,811
to try to set you up
in some kind of way?
461
00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,679
- This is just [bleep]
crazy, man.
462
00:19:08,748 --> 00:19:11,616
This is, like, wow.
463
00:19:11,684 --> 00:19:14,485
- I am now concerned,
because
464
00:19:14,554 --> 00:19:17,955
what time does Paris
get off of work?
465
00:19:18,024 --> 00:19:19,524
- He's got a couple hours.
466
00:19:19,592 --> 00:19:23,127
- When Paris gets home tonight,
it's gonna be weird.
467
00:19:23,196 --> 00:19:27,298
And rather than you guys
potentially or--or likely
468
00:19:27,367 --> 00:19:29,934
getting into it
and it becoming an issue
469
00:19:30,003 --> 00:19:32,436
or a fight
or an argument or whatever,
470
00:19:32,505 --> 00:19:35,806
maybe we should text him right
now and just see what he says.
471
00:19:35,875 --> 00:19:38,242
- Well, it's the only way
we're gonna find out I guess.
472
00:19:38,311 --> 00:19:41,012
I've figured out something
from this point.
473
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:45,716
- So what's Paris' number?
- 470 [bleep]
474
00:19:45,785 --> 00:19:46,918
- All right, I'll say,
475
00:19:46,986 --> 00:19:48,152
"Hey, Paris,
this is Nev from 'Catfish'
476
00:19:48,221 --> 00:19:49,787
"We're working
on an episode now
477
00:19:49,856 --> 00:19:51,055
"and would love to chat
with you.
478
00:19:51,124 --> 00:19:53,824
Please give me a call
when you can. Thanks."
479
00:19:53,893 --> 00:19:55,626
So that's sent.
480
00:19:55,695 --> 00:19:57,962
- Wow, wow, wow.
481
00:19:58,031 --> 00:20:01,499
- I'd like to obviously help
get to the very, very bottom
482
00:20:01,568 --> 00:20:04,302
of all this, but you're in
a precarious situation
483
00:20:04,370 --> 00:20:07,038
where it appears as though
the person who's catfishing you
484
00:20:07,106 --> 00:20:09,073
is the same person
you share a bed with,
485
00:20:09,142 --> 00:20:10,875
and there's not a lot we can do
486
00:20:10,944 --> 00:20:13,144
from where we're sitting
in California.
487
00:20:13,213 --> 00:20:17,281
Obviously, as a show, we want
to be involved and helpful,
488
00:20:17,350 --> 00:20:19,584
but also as human beings,
489
00:20:19,652 --> 00:20:21,085
we want you to handle
your business
490
00:20:21,154 --> 00:20:24,255
how you see it best fit
to be here.
491
00:20:24,324 --> 00:20:26,324
So when Paris gets home later
if you feel like
492
00:20:26,392 --> 00:20:28,059
the right thing to do
is bring it up
493
00:20:28,127 --> 00:20:30,261
and talk to him about it,
then you should do that.
494
00:20:30,330 --> 00:20:32,997
We'll make ourselves available
whenever.
495
00:20:33,066 --> 00:20:35,099
You know, you sort of have
to play it by ear
496
00:20:35,168 --> 00:20:38,769
and let us know as it unfolds.
497
00:20:38,838 --> 00:20:40,705
♪ ♪
498
00:20:40,773 --> 00:20:43,407
- ♪ Something wasn't right ♪
499
00:20:43,476 --> 00:20:46,978
- Wow, that's a lot.
500
00:20:47,046 --> 00:20:48,746
- I hate that we're not there.
501
00:20:48,815 --> 00:20:51,415
Ideally, we would be with you
all night until he came home
502
00:20:51,484 --> 00:20:53,384
and, like, sat there
with you and waited
503
00:20:53,453 --> 00:20:55,586
and, you know,
had the conversation,
504
00:20:55,655 --> 00:20:58,289
but because of all the
restrictions we can't do that
505
00:20:58,358 --> 00:21:02,193
and I hate that.
I wish that we could.
506
00:21:02,262 --> 00:21:04,829
- Wow.
- Are you gonna be okay?
507
00:21:04,897 --> 00:21:06,330
- I need to go to the bar
508
00:21:06,399 --> 00:21:08,633
and have a margarita
or something.
509
00:21:08,701 --> 00:21:11,269
- Obviously, if I hear anything
or if anything goes down
510
00:21:11,337 --> 00:21:13,371
I'll let you know,
and then we'll just--
511
00:21:13,439 --> 00:21:15,773
we'll just check in
in the morning.
512
00:21:15,842 --> 00:21:18,943
- Okay.
513
00:21:19,012 --> 00:21:21,245
Sound like a plan to me.
514
00:21:21,314 --> 00:21:22,713
- All right Aaron.
515
00:21:22,782 --> 00:21:24,415
- All right, guys.
516
00:21:24,484 --> 00:21:26,250
- All right, have a good night.
- All right, bye.
517
00:21:26,319 --> 00:21:27,852
both: Bye.
518
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,087
[computer chimes]
519
00:21:30,156 --> 00:21:32,056
- This is weird.
I mean, this is--
520
00:21:32,125 --> 00:21:33,324
- I'm afraid
they're gonna fight tonight.
521
00:21:33,393 --> 00:21:35,559
- Well, look, either this
ticking time bomb
522
00:21:35,628 --> 00:21:37,194
is gonna blow up
523
00:21:37,263 --> 00:21:38,963
or somehow we're gonna make it
through the night,
524
00:21:39,032 --> 00:21:42,199
and tomorrow
all will be revealed.
525
00:21:43,636 --> 00:21:47,905
- Okay, I'm getting a call
from Aaron.
526
00:21:47,974 --> 00:21:50,975
It's a FaceTime.
527
00:21:54,580 --> 00:21:56,080
Hey, man. What's up?
528
00:21:57,250 --> 00:22:00,918
He came home earlier
just to leave.
529
00:22:00,987 --> 00:22:03,888
and go back out to do
an overnight shift at work.
530
00:22:03,956 --> 00:22:07,825
- Is it common for him
to do--like, come home
531
00:22:07,894 --> 00:22:11,329
and then go back and do
an overnight shift like this?
532
00:22:11,397 --> 00:22:12,730
- Yeah.
- Oh, okay.
533
00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:14,298
- He didn't show any signs
of, "Oh,
534
00:22:14,367 --> 00:22:16,534
I got that message,"
or anything like that so...
535
00:22:16,602 --> 00:22:19,737
- Right. Was it weird, though?
536
00:22:19,806 --> 00:22:21,972
- Yeah, it's very weird.
537
00:22:22,041 --> 00:22:23,407
- Wow. All right. Interesting.
538
00:22:23,476 --> 00:22:24,909
I guess just try
to get some rest
539
00:22:24,977 --> 00:22:28,412
and we'll feel out tomorrow
and see what shakes out.
540
00:22:28,481 --> 00:22:30,581
- See if we can get
to the bottom of it.
541
00:22:30,650 --> 00:22:31,816
- Yeah.
- Peace out.
542
00:22:31,884 --> 00:22:34,685
- All right. Good night.
543
00:22:34,754 --> 00:22:37,054
[tense music]
544
00:22:37,123 --> 00:22:38,255
Morning.
545
00:22:39,459 --> 00:22:40,858
- Got a little bit
of an update here.
546
00:22:40,927 --> 00:22:43,961
I got a phone call
last night from Aaron.
547
00:22:44,030 --> 00:22:48,065
Basically,
Paris came back from work.
548
00:22:48,134 --> 00:22:51,736
So he took some clothes
and went back to work,
549
00:22:51,804 --> 00:22:55,106
but there was no discussion
about any of this.
550
00:22:55,174 --> 00:22:58,042
- That's a little sus,
'cause we texted him,
551
00:22:58,111 --> 00:23:00,010
and there's no way
you would get a text like that
552
00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:01,912
and come home to your fiancé
and not be like,
553
00:23:01,981 --> 00:23:03,547
"Oh, my God.
The weirdest thing happened."
554
00:23:03,616 --> 00:23:05,149
- Well, that to me
555
00:23:05,218 --> 00:23:09,720
indicates that Paris clearly
is involved in this.
556
00:23:09,789 --> 00:23:11,655
- There's no way
he's not involved.
557
00:23:11,724 --> 00:23:15,292
- I guess we got a text
Aaron, check in with him.
558
00:23:16,095 --> 00:23:18,129
- I don't know.
Do I feel bad for Aaron?
559
00:23:18,197 --> 00:23:20,865
I don't know.
Do I feel bad for Paris?
560
00:23:20,933 --> 00:23:23,200
I don't know.
Do I feel bad for Treyvon?
561
00:23:23,269 --> 00:23:25,469
I don't know.
562
00:23:25,538 --> 00:23:27,471
I don't know
who I feel bad for.
563
00:23:27,540 --> 00:23:29,273
[computer chimes]
- Oh.
564
00:23:29,342 --> 00:23:31,108
- Hello.
565
00:23:31,177 --> 00:23:34,545
- Hey, guys, what's up?
- Hey, Aaron. What's up?
566
00:23:34,614 --> 00:23:37,548
You seem a little...
- Somber.
567
00:23:37,617 --> 00:23:38,916
- Yeah.
568
00:23:38,985 --> 00:23:42,086
- Yeah. Rough night actually.
569
00:23:42,155 --> 00:23:44,355
Rough night.
Like I told Nev earlier,
570
00:23:44,424 --> 00:23:46,357
he came home.
He didn't mention the text
571
00:23:46,426 --> 00:23:49,226
that he had got from me
or anything like that.
572
00:23:49,295 --> 00:23:52,930
So I just kind of let it ride,
and then he just like,
573
00:23:52,999 --> 00:23:54,031
"Yeah,
I'm gonna get some clothes
574
00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:55,833
and leave out,
go back to work."
575
00:23:55,902 --> 00:23:58,402
- The overnight shift
is--is over.
576
00:23:58,471 --> 00:23:59,537
- Yeah, it's over.
577
00:23:59,605 --> 00:24:01,372
- So is he home in bed
sleeping?
578
00:24:01,441 --> 00:24:03,140
- No.
- Where is he?
579
00:24:03,209 --> 00:24:04,608
- I have no idea.
580
00:24:04,677 --> 00:24:07,445
- What does your instinct
tell you?
581
00:24:07,513 --> 00:24:11,348
- My instinct is just
telling me to just find out
582
00:24:11,417 --> 00:24:13,083
who this is no matter
583
00:24:13,152 --> 00:24:15,953
whether it's Paris
or someone else.
584
00:24:16,022 --> 00:24:18,856
By the end of today I just
need to know who this is.
585
00:24:18,925 --> 00:24:20,491
- I mean,
he hasn't responded to my text.
586
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,927
Do you wanna try and text him
and just say,
587
00:24:22,995 --> 00:24:25,663
"Hey, can you chat?
Can we talk?
588
00:24:25,731 --> 00:24:27,164
Are you coming home?"
Because maybe
589
00:24:27,233 --> 00:24:29,200
he's--I don't know.
I mean, yeah.
590
00:24:29,268 --> 00:24:30,534
- Yeah, I texted him
and said, "Hey,
591
00:24:30,603 --> 00:24:33,437
where are you right now?"
Let's see.
592
00:24:33,506 --> 00:24:37,107
- Okay. Did he-- did he see
your message? Did he respond?
593
00:24:37,176 --> 00:24:40,077
- He's read that one,
but he hasn't responded to it.
594
00:24:40,146 --> 00:24:41,779
- What do we think the chances
are that Paris
595
00:24:41,848 --> 00:24:45,015
is a non-participant
in this entire thing,
596
00:24:45,084 --> 00:24:47,051
he has nothing to do with it?
597
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,921
- I think those odds are
going down every moment
598
00:24:50,990 --> 00:24:52,423
we don't hear back from him.
599
00:24:52,492 --> 00:24:56,160
- I kind of figured like
after last night it was him,
600
00:24:56,229 --> 00:25:00,364
but I was like really hoping
that it wasn't.
601
00:25:00,433 --> 00:25:01,599
[phone dings]
602
00:25:01,667 --> 00:25:04,301
- What? Did something come in?
- Mm-hmm.
603
00:25:04,370 --> 00:25:05,836
- You got a text?
604
00:25:05,905 --> 00:25:08,072
- Yeah, but it's from Treyvon.
605
00:25:08,140 --> 00:25:09,707
- Oh, no.
606
00:25:09,775 --> 00:25:11,308
- Wow.
- No.
607
00:25:11,377 --> 00:25:13,644
I mean, is this Paris like
trying to make it seem
608
00:25:13,713 --> 00:25:17,214
like they're different people?
Just like casually texting.
609
00:25:17,283 --> 00:25:20,284
- What are you--you're casually
texting back.
610
00:25:20,353 --> 00:25:22,319
- What am I--what else
am I gonna do?
611
00:25:22,388 --> 00:25:25,122
I wanna get straight to it.
Like, my next question
612
00:25:25,191 --> 00:25:26,790
was about
to be getting straight to it.
613
00:25:26,859 --> 00:25:27,892
- Then let's [bleep] do it.
[line trilling]
614
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,361
both: Oh.
- Are you're calling Treyvon?
615
00:25:30,429 --> 00:25:32,930
- Yeah.
616
00:25:32,999 --> 00:25:36,901
This Treyvon?
617
00:25:36,969 --> 00:25:39,036
This is Aaron.
618
00:25:44,277 --> 00:25:46,076
I need to talk to you
about something,
619
00:25:46,145 --> 00:25:47,478
and
I've been dying to meet you.
620
00:25:47,547 --> 00:25:49,246
I've been trying to meet you
for months.
621
00:25:49,315 --> 00:25:52,149
Countless months
we've been planning to meet up.
622
00:25:52,218 --> 00:25:53,717
You've been blowing me off
623
00:25:53,786 --> 00:25:57,454
and I need to talk to you
like face-to-face.
624
00:25:57,523 --> 00:26:00,090
Are you able to do a Zoom?
625
00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:08,499
Since you don't--you
really don't have time
626
00:26:08,568 --> 00:26:10,367
for it I'll just go in
and just lay it out there.
627
00:26:10,436 --> 00:26:14,371
I got back in a relationship
with my ex,
628
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,509
and we are now engaged
and planning for a wedding
629
00:26:18,578 --> 00:26:21,045
towards the end of the year.
630
00:26:21,113 --> 00:26:23,347
But I had very
strong feelings for you
631
00:26:23,416 --> 00:26:25,215
or have very strong feelings
for you
632
00:26:25,284 --> 00:26:28,552
and what I wanted to know
was if you
633
00:26:28,621 --> 00:26:31,722
and I were something
that was supposed to happen
634
00:26:31,791 --> 00:26:35,426
or just something that was
just supposed to be overlooked.
635
00:26:38,564 --> 00:26:40,264
- I mean...
636
00:26:40,333 --> 00:26:41,966
- Is there something
you're hiding from me
637
00:26:42,034 --> 00:26:46,070
or keeping from me?
638
00:26:52,345 --> 00:26:55,946
No, you're giving me ultimatum
after the first time
639
00:26:56,015 --> 00:26:59,116
us being on the phone
you're giving me ultimatums.
640
00:27:08,527 --> 00:27:09,493
- Sure. Say yes.
641
00:27:09,562 --> 00:27:12,463
- Say no.
- Yeah, sure.
642
00:27:12,531 --> 00:27:15,099
That's what I'll do.
643
00:27:21,941 --> 00:27:23,440
- It's a trap.
644
00:27:23,509 --> 00:27:25,743
- He just put me in an
ultimatum to leave my fiancé.
645
00:27:25,811 --> 00:27:27,411
- Because it's a trap.
646
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,179
- It's gotta be a friend.
Did you recognize the voice?
647
00:27:29,248 --> 00:27:31,415
- No.
- Paris is with whoever
648
00:27:31,484 --> 00:27:33,283
that person is
and put them on the phone
649
00:27:33,352 --> 00:27:36,387
and he was probably telling him
just find this out.
650
00:27:36,455 --> 00:27:37,521
- Right.
651
00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:39,023
- I really just want
to send him the link.
652
00:27:39,091 --> 00:27:41,659
- Send them the link.
What is your plan?
653
00:27:41,727 --> 00:27:45,029
If Paris pops in here
which I'm assuming he will,
654
00:27:45,097 --> 00:27:46,797
what is your plan?
655
00:27:46,866 --> 00:27:52,369
- If this is him, it's gonna
piss me off really like worse
656
00:27:52,438 --> 00:27:56,206
than what I am already feeling
pissed off and angry and upset.
657
00:27:56,275 --> 00:27:58,375
- Is a part of you
still thinking that the Treyvon
658
00:27:58,444 --> 00:28:00,944
in the pictures
is gonna come in the Zoom?
659
00:28:01,013 --> 00:28:03,013
- Yeah. Yeah.
660
00:28:03,082 --> 00:28:06,316
If it is Paris of course
I'm gonna be upset about that.
661
00:28:06,385 --> 00:28:08,252
So I'm hoping that Treyvon
is actually the person
662
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,655
in the picture or somebody else
altogether, you know?
663
00:28:11,724 --> 00:28:13,991
- This is Paris. It is.
664
00:28:14,060 --> 00:28:15,092
[phone dings]
665
00:28:15,161 --> 00:28:18,762
- So he says
he's ready to talk.
666
00:28:18,831 --> 00:28:21,031
- Are you ready?
667
00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:23,000
- Hey, ready Freddy.
668
00:28:23,069 --> 00:28:26,570
[tense music]
669
00:28:26,639 --> 00:28:27,938
- So he says
he's ready to talk.
670
00:28:28,007 --> 00:28:29,173
- Are you ready?
671
00:28:29,241 --> 00:28:31,341
- Hey, ready Freddy.
672
00:28:31,410 --> 00:28:37,014
[computer chimes]
- Oh.
673
00:28:37,083 --> 00:28:38,348
- Hey.
674
00:28:38,417 --> 00:28:40,117
- Why the [bleep] would you do
675
00:28:40,186 --> 00:28:41,919
some stupid [bleep]
like this for?
676
00:28:41,987 --> 00:28:43,854
- Yeah, are you gagging now?
Yeah.
677
00:28:43,923 --> 00:28:47,157
- All you had to do
was set up [bleep] in a house.
678
00:28:47,226 --> 00:28:50,594
What the [bleep] is this about?
Pretending to be somebody else.
679
00:28:50,663 --> 00:28:52,663
We both lying
in this relationship.
680
00:28:52,732 --> 00:28:54,231
- I'm one person.
681
00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:57,401
I introduced myself as Aaron,
not as anybody else,
682
00:28:57,470 --> 00:29:01,105
- Now, listen to me.
You reached out to who?
683
00:29:01,173 --> 00:29:02,506
- I reached to--
- To Treyvon.
684
00:29:02,575 --> 00:29:05,242
Say--say his name.
Who did you reach out to?
685
00:29:05,311 --> 00:29:07,611
Did you ever tell me
about Treyvon?
686
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,380
Have you ever talked to me
about Treyvon?
687
00:29:10,449 --> 00:29:13,016
- What the [bleep]?
You are Treyvon, fool.
688
00:29:13,085 --> 00:29:14,451
- I wanted to go see
if you mess around
689
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,386
with anybody else
in this relationship.
690
00:29:16,455 --> 00:29:20,190
I wanna keep my eyes on you
at all given times.
691
00:29:20,259 --> 00:29:21,892
- Didn't I tell y'all
he was crazy?
692
00:29:21,961 --> 00:29:24,895
I'm up here thinking that
it's somebody that got me torn
693
00:29:24,964 --> 00:29:26,230
like really got me torn
694
00:29:26,298 --> 00:29:30,200
between you and them
and us getting ma--
695
00:29:30,269 --> 00:29:32,936
- If you take the ring off.
696
00:29:33,005 --> 00:29:37,841
Hey, you wanna take off a ring
y'all let me take off this.
697
00:29:37,910 --> 00:29:40,177
That's it. That's it.
698
00:29:40,246 --> 00:29:42,045
You ain't got to worry
about no wedding.
699
00:29:42,114 --> 00:29:43,814
Everything could
be canceled y'all.
700
00:29:43,883 --> 00:29:46,216
I could get a refund back for
everything that I done spent.
701
00:29:46,285 --> 00:29:48,285
- This doesn't even make sense
what you're doing.
702
00:29:48,354 --> 00:29:50,754
- Now, I'm trying to tell you
if you just listen to me.
703
00:29:50,823 --> 00:29:52,890
- I don't--I don't--I
don't even wanna listen.
704
00:29:52,958 --> 00:29:53,991
I don't even wanna listen.
705
00:29:54,059 --> 00:29:55,392
- Just listen to me.
706
00:29:55,461 --> 00:29:57,427
- This people sitting here--
- Hold on a second.
707
00:29:57,496 --> 00:30:00,497
- Hold on. Let's take
a quick time-out, gentlemen.
708
00:30:00,566 --> 00:30:03,500
This is a very emotional,
difficult discussion
709
00:30:03,569 --> 00:30:06,069
to be having.
Clearly, you're both upset.
710
00:30:06,138 --> 00:30:08,639
Aaron, would you please
just let Paris
711
00:30:08,707 --> 00:30:10,507
tell his side of the story
and try your best
712
00:30:10,576 --> 00:30:12,409
even if you disagree
with things that he says.
713
00:30:12,478 --> 00:30:14,178
- You guys like to eat
for [bleep] lunch,
714
00:30:14,246 --> 00:30:16,547
then go ahead.
Be my guest.
715
00:30:16,615 --> 00:30:18,982
- So for the past sort of
past nine months
716
00:30:19,051 --> 00:30:25,222
I've been really contemplating
on if Aaron is the guy for me.
717
00:30:25,291 --> 00:30:27,224
I've been doing my pageants
and my shows,
718
00:30:27,293 --> 00:30:28,492
and when I go out of town,
719
00:30:28,561 --> 00:30:30,694
I don't know
what is Aaron doing?
720
00:30:30,763 --> 00:30:32,729
And so I created this profile
when I seen him
721
00:30:32,798 --> 00:30:35,632
when we broked up,
and he bit the bait.
722
00:30:35,701 --> 00:30:36,967
- I was single.
723
00:30:37,036 --> 00:30:39,169
- We were single, but we were
still having sex, right?
724
00:30:39,238 --> 00:30:42,840
- I was single. It was months
before we got back together.
725
00:30:42,908 --> 00:30:46,844
- He--look, you can't
necessarily blame him
726
00:30:46,912 --> 00:30:48,612
for talking to someone else
727
00:30:48,681 --> 00:30:52,583
when you guys were not
in a committed relationship.
728
00:30:52,651 --> 00:30:54,251
- But when we got back together
729
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,354
Aaron was
still texting Treyvon.
730
00:30:57,423 --> 00:30:58,522
- Right. Which he told us.
731
00:30:58,591 --> 00:31:00,991
- Was you or was you not
texting Treyvon?
732
00:31:01,060 --> 00:31:02,759
- No, he told us that.
He told us the whole time.
733
00:31:02,828 --> 00:31:05,863
- Yes, I did,
and Treyvon was you.
734
00:31:05,931 --> 00:31:10,167
- Listen, Paris, no one
in this situation is right.
735
00:31:10,236 --> 00:31:12,903
You're not right.
Aaron's not right.
736
00:31:12,972 --> 00:31:17,608
Were you trying to create an
emotional connection with Aaron
737
00:31:17,676 --> 00:31:20,444
or were you just try
to trap him this whole time?
738
00:31:20,512 --> 00:31:22,312
- I wanted Treyvon
to come in place to know
739
00:31:22,381 --> 00:31:24,681
what is Aaron doing
when I'm traveling to Atlanta,
740
00:31:24,750 --> 00:31:26,550
when I'm traveling to Jackson,
Mississippi,
741
00:31:26,619 --> 00:31:28,485
and performing Aaron can't go.
742
00:31:28,554 --> 00:31:32,756
I want to know if Aaron if he
won't go out and seek others.
743
00:31:32,825 --> 00:31:37,828
I just want to know.
I'm doing--I just need...
744
00:31:37,897 --> 00:31:39,463
- If you wanted to know
what we're about
745
00:31:39,531 --> 00:31:41,064
doing get you a nanny cam.
746
00:31:41,133 --> 00:31:44,101
- I really honestly wanted
to know if he liked this person
747
00:31:44,169 --> 00:31:47,537
before I could know my security
in my relationship.
748
00:31:47,606 --> 00:31:50,974
So I have been catfishing him.
749
00:31:51,043 --> 00:31:54,578
My best friend had been
joining me on to--to help me.
750
00:31:54,647 --> 00:31:56,580
- Is that the person that Aaron
751
00:31:56,649 --> 00:31:59,283
was talking to
on the phone as Treyvon?
752
00:31:59,351 --> 00:32:00,717
- Yeah, it wasn't his voice.
753
00:32:00,786 --> 00:32:03,954
- It was my friend Rico,
Cedric,
754
00:32:04,023 --> 00:32:05,389
to make sure that you're doing
755
00:32:05,457 --> 00:32:07,024
what
you're supposed to be doing.
756
00:32:07,092 --> 00:32:09,660
When I'm going out of town
and I can't text you anymore
757
00:32:09,728 --> 00:32:13,196
or whatever, I will have Rico.
I will have homey text.
758
00:32:13,265 --> 00:32:14,431
- You just said
he won't be getting
759
00:32:14,500 --> 00:32:16,099
no more chicken wings here.
760
00:32:16,168 --> 00:32:20,938
- Look, if Aaron wanted to be
sleeping with somebody else
761
00:32:21,006 --> 00:32:22,973
he would have been doing that,
but he wasn't.
762
00:32:23,042 --> 00:32:26,777
He was texting with a guy,
because he felt that there was
763
00:32:26,845 --> 00:32:29,846
a really strong,
emotional connection.
764
00:32:29,915 --> 00:32:34,918
And yes, that still feels bad,
but that other guy was you.
765
00:32:34,987 --> 00:32:37,054
And you may not have been able
to give him
766
00:32:37,122 --> 00:32:39,323
the emotional connection
he was getting from Treyvon
767
00:32:39,391 --> 00:32:41,792
because you were
guarding yourself
768
00:32:41,860 --> 00:32:43,493
because you knew you were
the one
769
00:32:43,562 --> 00:32:45,128
he was cheating on you with.
770
00:32:45,197 --> 00:32:48,498
If Treyvon had disappeared when
you and Aaron got back together
771
00:32:48,567 --> 00:32:50,867
and you had put all that energy
772
00:32:50,936 --> 00:32:53,971
into being both Paris
and Treyvon emotional
773
00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:58,675
in one perfect package,
things might just be perfect.
774
00:32:58,744 --> 00:33:01,011
So I agree.
I'm not excusing
775
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,748
that Aaron should have
stopped talking to Treyvon,
776
00:33:04,817 --> 00:33:08,118
but you played a very
large part in both creating
777
00:33:08,187 --> 00:33:11,755
and continuing this problem.
778
00:33:11,824 --> 00:33:15,025
- I'm sorry.
I'm sorry; I can't do this.
779
00:33:17,896 --> 00:33:19,796
- You played a very large part
in both creating
780
00:33:19,865 --> 00:33:22,499
and continuing this problem.
781
00:33:22,568 --> 00:33:25,736
- I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I can't do this.
782
00:33:28,507 --> 00:33:30,040
- Um...
783
00:33:30,109 --> 00:33:31,908
- Maybe give him a minute.
784
00:33:31,977 --> 00:33:36,646
Paris I know this is hard,
but please come back.
785
00:33:36,715 --> 00:33:39,483
I think that yelling
at each other
786
00:33:39,551 --> 00:33:40,851
even though that was inevitable
787
00:33:40,919 --> 00:33:45,122
is not going to get us
anywhere going forward.
788
00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:47,824
So let's try to come together.
789
00:33:53,632 --> 00:33:58,535
- I'm sorry.
790
00:33:58,604 --> 00:34:01,571
- Okay, guys.
This has definitely been a lot.
791
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,573
I would love for us
to talk one-on-one
792
00:34:03,642 --> 00:34:07,811
and then come back
maybe a little bit more chill.
793
00:34:11,116 --> 00:34:14,518
So Paris you stay here.
We'll talk to you for a minute.
794
00:34:14,586 --> 00:34:16,086
Aaron, we'll just
put you off in
795
00:34:16,155 --> 00:34:17,454
like a waiting room for a few
796
00:34:17,523 --> 00:34:22,492
and then we'll
bring you back to us.
797
00:34:22,561 --> 00:34:26,430
- Hi. We didn't even
get to be introduced.
798
00:34:26,498 --> 00:34:31,635
I'm Kamie. This is Nev.
This is a lot.
799
00:34:31,703 --> 00:34:37,040
Like, I do feel embarrassed
and I do feel ashamed,
800
00:34:37,109 --> 00:34:38,575
but nobody knows
801
00:34:38,644 --> 00:34:40,477
what I go through in my shoes
in my relationship.
802
00:34:40,546 --> 00:34:42,612
Every relationship
is not the same.
803
00:34:42,681 --> 00:34:45,715
And right now I'm just going
through a lot of emotions.
804
00:34:45,784 --> 00:34:48,785
- You said that during the time
when you guys were not together
805
00:34:48,854 --> 00:34:53,190
you were still talking
and hooking up as normal?
806
00:34:53,258 --> 00:34:54,424
- Probably like once or twice,
807
00:34:54,493 --> 00:34:57,027
but not like
on an everyday basis.
808
00:34:57,096 --> 00:34:59,563
And so when we had
this split up,
809
00:34:59,631 --> 00:35:01,832
I wasn't like talking
to anybody.
810
00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:05,869
Like, I was talking to him,
and when I seen him on the app,
811
00:35:05,938 --> 00:35:07,838
I felt broken.
812
00:35:07,906 --> 00:35:11,208
- Was Aaron the only person
you were talking to as Treyvon?
813
00:35:11,276 --> 00:35:12,476
- Yes.
814
00:35:12,544 --> 00:35:14,478
- Okay, so this is
a lot of mess,
815
00:35:14,546 --> 00:35:16,546
and it's not just your doing.
816
00:35:16,615 --> 00:35:20,083
So like I said, no one
is right in this situation.
817
00:35:20,152 --> 00:35:21,651
You're not right
for creating it
818
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:23,687
and he's not right
for following through with it.
819
00:35:23,755 --> 00:35:27,424
- I'm sorry. I really
am sorry and I'm sorry
820
00:35:27,493 --> 00:35:30,260
because I just know
that I love Aaron
821
00:35:30,329 --> 00:35:33,063
and I would do anything
for Aaron.
822
00:35:33,132 --> 00:35:34,464
- So, where are you now?
823
00:35:34,533 --> 00:35:36,032
I mean, obviously,
you've been confused.
824
00:35:36,101 --> 00:35:37,400
- He told me to take it off.
825
00:35:37,469 --> 00:35:39,836
- Well, okay, but we all say
and do things
826
00:35:39,905 --> 00:35:42,939
in the heat of the moment
that we don't really mean.
827
00:35:43,008 --> 00:35:47,277
Do you feel like your best
version of what happens
828
00:35:47,346 --> 00:35:49,579
is that you guys
can sort of work this out
829
00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:51,448
and keep it going
and stay together?
830
00:35:51,517 --> 00:35:52,983
- Do you wanna stay together?
831
00:35:53,051 --> 00:35:57,954
- I would honestly love
for us to be together.
832
00:35:58,023 --> 00:36:02,025
Because I did all of this,
I don't know how he would feel,
833
00:36:02,094 --> 00:36:07,197
and I feel like I would have to
like own up to my madness
834
00:36:07,266 --> 00:36:08,832
in order for us to change,
835
00:36:08,901 --> 00:36:11,334
and we have to trust each other
a little bit more.
836
00:36:11,403 --> 00:36:12,536
- I think that that would be
837
00:36:12,604 --> 00:36:14,571
the smart and mature thing
to do,
838
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,107
because even though both of you
are in the wrong,
839
00:36:17,176 --> 00:36:18,542
this never would've happened
840
00:36:18,610 --> 00:36:20,610
if you hadn't made the profile
to begin with.
841
00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:22,345
- This is the perfect moment.
842
00:36:22,414 --> 00:36:24,748
Your walls are down,
your emotions are raw,
843
00:36:24,816 --> 00:36:26,783
and there never will be
a better moment
844
00:36:26,852 --> 00:36:29,953
to just open up to each other
and say what you need to say,
845
00:36:30,022 --> 00:36:33,023
- Okay.
- Can we get Aaron back in?
846
00:36:36,461 --> 00:36:38,728
- All right,
hello again, everyone.
847
00:36:38,797 --> 00:36:41,631
- Hello.
- You guys are hurt and upset,
848
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:44,334
but Paris, maybe we should
just start with you
849
00:36:44,403 --> 00:36:45,802
because you had a lot to say
850
00:36:45,871 --> 00:36:48,271
that would be good
for Aaron to hear.
851
00:36:53,412 --> 00:36:56,880
- When we did have
the split up,
852
00:36:56,949 --> 00:37:01,318
I was missing you,
and I was loving you.
853
00:37:03,622 --> 00:37:07,891
I really see that I was coming
from not a good place
854
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,361
and I had used this character
of Treyvon
855
00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:14,598
to see if you are doing
anything sexually,
856
00:37:14,666 --> 00:37:17,500
if you would have sex
with Treyvon.
857
00:37:17,569 --> 00:37:20,370
And so I do apologize to you.
858
00:37:20,439 --> 00:37:21,905
I have some insecurities
with myself
859
00:37:21,974 --> 00:37:24,374
that I need to work out
and I don't believe no man
860
00:37:24,443 --> 00:37:27,644
no woman can fix that
but myself.
861
00:37:27,713 --> 00:37:29,613
And I'm telling you
the truth right now.
862
00:37:29,681 --> 00:37:32,916
Honestly,
you deserve that much.
863
00:37:32,985 --> 00:37:34,584
You deserve that.
864
00:37:34,653 --> 00:37:39,289
And regardless of what happened
after this, I'm sorry.
865
00:37:39,358 --> 00:37:42,726
I am.
866
00:37:42,794 --> 00:37:45,762
- Yeah.
867
00:37:47,966 --> 00:37:53,637
So I feel--I feel guilty
for still talking to him
868
00:37:53,705 --> 00:37:57,641
and now having gotten myself
to this point,
869
00:37:57,709 --> 00:38:01,678
I hurt you too.
I apologize.
870
00:38:01,747 --> 00:38:05,782
I would never do anything
to hurt you intentionally,
871
00:38:05,851 --> 00:38:10,587
but the thing with me
talking to him as Treyvon was,
872
00:38:10,656 --> 00:38:12,255
he listens to me more,
873
00:38:12,324 --> 00:38:15,659
more in tune with what I like
and what I wanna do,
874
00:38:15,727 --> 00:38:18,361
and I'm not just concerned
about you,
875
00:38:18,430 --> 00:38:20,630
this, you, this, you, this.
876
00:38:20,699 --> 00:38:22,766
If you are going to be
in a relationship with someone,
877
00:38:22,834 --> 00:38:25,402
you have to find balance
between that,
878
00:38:25,470 --> 00:38:28,405
and I'm not
getting the balance.
879
00:38:28,473 --> 00:38:31,341
- Maybe I put too much
into my illusion.
880
00:38:31,410 --> 00:38:34,110
Treyvon was trying
to find out more.
881
00:38:34,179 --> 00:38:37,180
You know, I put so much energy
and time into that,
882
00:38:37,249 --> 00:38:39,149
I neglect
the time for Aaron
883
00:38:39,217 --> 00:38:40,950
and I could hang out together.
884
00:38:41,019 --> 00:38:43,386
And maybe right now
this is a good time,
885
00:38:43,455 --> 00:38:44,587
It's not always about me.
886
00:38:44,656 --> 00:38:47,457
It's about us.
Sometimes it's about you.
887
00:38:47,526 --> 00:38:50,627
I understand right now
it's very rocky,
888
00:38:50,696 --> 00:38:55,131
but I would love
to move forward with you.
889
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,735
Is that something that
you're willing to do with me?
890
00:39:04,276 --> 00:39:07,977
- Maybe if we need like
a few days of separation
891
00:39:08,046 --> 00:39:11,348
or something like that
till we get to understand it,
892
00:39:11,416 --> 00:39:15,752
but I do wanna be together.
893
00:39:15,821 --> 00:39:19,122
I do feel like there
is a reason for us
894
00:39:19,191 --> 00:39:24,728
to stay together and let things
work out for the better.
895
00:39:24,796 --> 00:39:27,430
I'm about moving forward,
always have been.
896
00:39:27,499 --> 00:39:30,400
[light music]
897
00:39:30,469 --> 00:39:36,673
♪ ♪
898
00:39:36,742 --> 00:39:41,578
- You both have them on.
Look at that.
899
00:39:41,646 --> 00:39:44,514
- That's amazing; even though
we had no idea
900
00:39:44,583 --> 00:39:47,450
exactly how this was gonna go
or how it was gonna play out,
901
00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:49,519
your fiancé is also the guy
902
00:39:49,588 --> 00:39:51,154
that you're having an affair
with emotionally,
903
00:39:51,223 --> 00:39:52,989
because you feel like you
and your fiancé
904
00:39:53,058 --> 00:39:55,125
aren't as close
as you'd like to be.
905
00:39:55,193 --> 00:39:57,260
And if it's him,
that means that you could be
906
00:39:57,329 --> 00:40:00,163
that close with your fiancé
and this could actually end up
907
00:40:00,232 --> 00:40:02,098
kind of being the best
of both worlds.
908
00:40:02,167 --> 00:40:03,533
- Yes.
909
00:40:03,602 --> 00:40:07,337
- Paris, thank you for opening
up to us, telling your truth,
910
00:40:07,406 --> 00:40:10,073
admitting things that I know
were not easy for you to admit,
911
00:40:10,142 --> 00:40:13,109
and hopefully helping
repair this relationship
912
00:40:13,178 --> 00:40:15,712
and sending it
in the right direction.
913
00:40:15,781 --> 00:40:18,415
Goodbye until we speak
again soon.
914
00:40:18,483 --> 00:40:20,750
- Bye, Paris
- Bye-eye.
915
00:40:20,819 --> 00:40:23,853
- Hakeem Davenport. Treyvon.
916
00:40:23,922 --> 00:40:25,288
[laughter]
917
00:40:25,357 --> 00:40:27,056
- Thank you so much.
918
00:40:27,125 --> 00:40:28,691
- Bye, Aaron.
- Bye, guys. Thanks.
919
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,860
- Bye, Aaron.
- Bye.
920
00:40:30,929 --> 00:40:34,764
- ♪ So bring me home
to happiness ♪
921
00:40:34,833 --> 00:40:38,802
♪ Go ahead and call me out ♪
922
00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:40,637
♪ I'm on the edge ♪
923
00:40:40,705 --> 00:40:42,572
♪ And I can't look down ♪
924
00:40:42,641 --> 00:40:44,374
♪ You are the one ♪
925
00:40:44,443 --> 00:40:46,142
♪ You know me best ♪
926
00:40:46,211 --> 00:40:50,880
♪ So bring me home
to happiness ♪
927
00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:55,485
- Alexis and James have been
talking for five years.
928
00:40:55,554 --> 00:40:56,853
- Are you in love with him?
929
00:40:56,922 --> 00:40:58,588
- I want to spend the rest
of my life with him.
930
00:40:58,657 --> 00:41:02,425
- Hello. You left a comment
on James' page.
931
00:41:02,494 --> 00:41:06,362
Yeah. Cool,
and you guys are friends?
932
00:41:06,431 --> 00:41:09,165
- This whole time he's been
sending Michelle gifts.
933
00:41:09,234 --> 00:41:10,500
- I'm--I'm hurt.
934
00:41:10,569 --> 00:41:12,134
[computer chimes]
both: Oh.