1 00:00:00,267 --> 00:00:03,268 amed Treyvon 2 00:00:03,337 --> 00:00:05,237 who he met on a hookup app. 3 00:00:05,306 --> 00:00:07,406 - I felt like I had found that other half of me. 4 00:00:07,475 --> 00:00:10,042 It was amazing, but I'm engaged right now. 5 00:00:10,111 --> 00:00:11,810 - Oh, my goodness. 6 00:00:11,879 --> 00:00:13,946 - Let's check out his fiancé's page. 7 00:00:14,015 --> 00:00:15,080 - They seem pretty happy. 8 00:00:15,149 --> 00:00:16,415 - Yeah. Now, I feel bad. 9 00:00:16,484 --> 00:00:19,018 - I just need to know who this is. 10 00:00:19,086 --> 00:00:20,352 - If Aaron wants the truth, 11 00:00:20,421 --> 00:00:22,154 he's gonna have to start telling the truth. 12 00:00:22,223 --> 00:00:23,689 - [gasps] It's a trap. 13 00:00:28,929 --> 00:00:31,630 [dramatic musical sting] 14 00:00:31,699 --> 00:00:33,866 - Okay, crew is rolling. 15 00:00:33,934 --> 00:00:36,235 - Rolling. - Hey. 16 00:00:36,303 --> 00:00:37,636 - Hey, what's up, Kamie? 17 00:00:37,705 --> 00:00:40,005 - Hello. - We're allowed to hug? 18 00:00:40,074 --> 00:00:41,140 - Yeah, we're vaccinated. 19 00:00:41,208 --> 00:00:42,274 - I'm so glad to be vaccinated. 20 00:00:42,343 --> 00:00:43,509 - It is--it is nice. 21 00:00:43,577 --> 00:00:47,846 Before we start, Cleo wants to say hi. 22 00:00:47,915 --> 00:00:49,048 - Hi. - Hey. 23 00:00:49,116 --> 00:00:53,352 - Cleo. Cleo, you look fabulous. 24 00:00:55,322 --> 00:00:56,622 What is the good news? 25 00:01:02,897 --> 00:01:05,230 - Shut up. 26 00:01:05,299 --> 00:01:07,833 Aww. Oh, my God. Really? 27 00:01:07,902 --> 00:01:09,401 - She's been tired more than a few days. 28 00:01:09,470 --> 00:01:11,170 - Yes. - Aww. Oh, my God. 29 00:01:11,238 --> 00:01:12,871 Wait, what are we having? 30 00:01:14,341 --> 00:01:16,008 Oh, my God. - Yeah. 31 00:01:16,077 --> 00:01:17,910 - Oh, you guys, stop, because it's too early. 32 00:01:17,978 --> 00:01:20,446 You know, I have makeup on. I'ma cry. I'm sweating now. 33 00:01:20,514 --> 00:01:22,581 - It's coming September 2021. 34 00:01:22,650 --> 00:01:26,385 - Thank you, Cleo. That news made my entire week. 35 00:01:26,454 --> 00:01:28,654 - All right, we gotta go. I love you guys. 36 00:01:31,659 --> 00:01:32,724 - Bye. 37 00:01:32,793 --> 00:01:35,160 - I cannot believe you didn't tell me. 38 00:01:35,229 --> 00:01:36,295 - I didn't tell anyone. 39 00:01:36,363 --> 00:01:38,497 - This is so exciting 40 00:01:38,566 --> 00:01:40,566 'cause I wasn't there when you announced Beau. 41 00:01:40,634 --> 00:01:42,868 Beau I was already, like, cooking up. 42 00:01:42,937 --> 00:01:44,136 - Yeah, that's right. 43 00:01:44,205 --> 00:01:45,404 - This is my first Schulman baby. 44 00:01:45,473 --> 00:01:48,140 - This is your first shot at a godmother's spot. 45 00:01:48,209 --> 00:01:50,342 - Oh, I'm taking it fully. 46 00:01:50,411 --> 00:01:54,313 1,000%. That's my job. This is so great. 47 00:01:54,381 --> 00:01:56,582 - Come on. - Oh, my God. 48 00:01:56,650 --> 00:02:00,519 Ah, I love babies. They smell so good. 49 00:02:00,588 --> 00:02:02,721 - Another set of Schulman brothers on the way. 50 00:02:02,790 --> 00:02:04,857 - I'm so happy. 51 00:02:04,925 --> 00:02:07,526 - All right, new email just came in. 52 00:02:09,263 --> 00:02:13,465 "I'm 30 from Dallas, Texas, and I'm reaching out to you guys, 53 00:02:13,534 --> 00:02:18,270 because I am in a hairy pickle," 54 00:02:18,339 --> 00:02:20,472 which are two words that I would normally... 55 00:02:20,541 --> 00:02:21,573 - The image that I have in my head... 56 00:02:21,642 --> 00:02:23,242 - Really want to put together. 57 00:02:23,310 --> 00:02:26,879 - I would like to not imagine that. Thank you. 58 00:02:26,947 --> 00:02:30,382 - "About nine months ago, I met Treyvon on a hookup app. 59 00:02:30,451 --> 00:02:31,917 "I was just out of a breakup 60 00:02:31,986 --> 00:02:33,652 "and it wasn't looking for anything serious, 61 00:02:33,721 --> 00:02:36,889 but immediately we hit it off with mad vibes. " 62 00:02:36,957 --> 00:02:38,290 - ♪ If you wanna love ♪ 63 00:02:38,359 --> 00:02:40,425 ♪ If you wanna live ♪ 64 00:02:40,494 --> 00:02:43,028 - "After a couple of days of chatting, 65 00:02:43,097 --> 00:02:45,597 "I was ready to meet but Trey wasn't comfortable 66 00:02:45,666 --> 00:02:48,634 "meeting in person because of COVID. 67 00:02:48,702 --> 00:02:51,370 "So we just kept chatting, and he surprised me. 68 00:02:51,438 --> 00:02:54,306 "I'd never met anyone who understands me 69 00:02:54,375 --> 00:02:56,842 "as if we're split from the same body. 70 00:02:56,911 --> 00:03:01,780 I'm head over heels for this guy with mad feelings." 71 00:03:01,849 --> 00:03:04,383 ♪ ♪ 72 00:03:04,451 --> 00:03:08,453 - It's mad vibes, mad feelings, mad crazy. 73 00:03:08,522 --> 00:03:11,823 - I like this guy's language. "I put forth many efforts 74 00:03:11,892 --> 00:03:14,426 "to talk on the phone, videochat, and meet up, 75 00:03:14,495 --> 00:03:18,063 "but he always has an excuse and it never happens. 76 00:03:18,132 --> 00:03:23,936 "I was thrilled when he finally did ask me to meet up, 77 00:03:24,004 --> 00:03:27,539 "but that resulted in getting stood up, 78 00:03:27,608 --> 00:03:30,008 "and it did make me start to question Treyvon. 79 00:03:30,077 --> 00:03:31,843 "But then something happened in my life 80 00:03:33,214 --> 00:03:36,615 that made me question my future with Treyvon altogether." 81 00:03:36,684 --> 00:03:37,649 He's not going to tell us what it was? 82 00:03:37,718 --> 00:03:40,319 - Right. I'm like, "What is it?" 83 00:03:40,387 --> 00:03:41,920 - God. Okay. 84 00:03:41,989 --> 00:03:44,756 - "But despite that, couldn't stop talking to him. 85 00:03:44,825 --> 00:03:46,625 "I'm in a really bad situation right now, 86 00:03:46,694 --> 00:03:48,393 "and I don't know what to do. 87 00:03:48,462 --> 00:03:51,063 "I've been keeping a secret from Treyvon, 88 00:03:51,131 --> 00:03:52,965 "and I'm nervous to reveal it. 89 00:03:53,033 --> 00:03:57,236 "You're my only hope at happiness. 90 00:03:57,304 --> 00:04:00,505 Thanks, Aaron." 91 00:04:00,574 --> 00:04:03,508 Wow, this is a very dramatic email. 92 00:04:03,577 --> 00:04:04,843 - What is the secret? 93 00:04:04,912 --> 00:04:06,311 - Let's shoot him a text. 94 00:04:06,380 --> 00:04:09,548 We just read your email 95 00:04:09,617 --> 00:04:13,619 and are mad excited to help. 96 00:04:13,687 --> 00:04:16,588 - Aaron, what is the secret? 97 00:04:16,657 --> 00:04:17,990 [computer chimes] - Oh. 98 00:04:18,058 --> 00:04:20,225 both: Hey. 99 00:04:20,294 --> 00:04:23,128 - Hey. - How are you? How's Dallas? 100 00:04:23,197 --> 00:04:24,663 - Oh, wow. Dallas. 101 00:04:24,732 --> 00:04:27,266 It's something new and exciting and different every day. 102 00:04:27,334 --> 00:04:28,500 I can tell you that. 103 00:04:28,569 --> 00:04:29,868 - Have you always lived in Dallas? 104 00:04:29,937 --> 00:04:31,970 - No, I'm actually from Mississippi, 105 00:04:32,039 --> 00:04:34,840 and I moved out here to Dallas about five years ago 106 00:04:34,908 --> 00:04:37,743 following an event and sales coordinator job. 107 00:04:37,811 --> 00:04:39,177 - How's that going? - Event. 108 00:04:39,246 --> 00:04:41,880 Sales aren't as great as before due to COVID. 109 00:04:41,949 --> 00:04:43,448 - Yeah, there hasn't been a lot of that lately. 110 00:04:43,517 --> 00:04:45,083 - Yeah. - So okay. 111 00:04:45,152 --> 00:04:47,019 So we just read your email. I don't know where to start. 112 00:04:47,087 --> 00:04:49,521 - So about nine months ago, 113 00:04:49,590 --> 00:04:52,090 I met Treyvon on a hookup site. 114 00:04:52,159 --> 00:04:55,093 I had just recently got out of a relationship, 115 00:04:55,162 --> 00:04:58,096 so I wasn't really looking for anything serious. 116 00:04:58,165 --> 00:05:01,967 Just kind of like sow my royal oats as they say. 117 00:05:02,036 --> 00:05:04,536 Right. See, she gets it. 118 00:05:04,605 --> 00:05:06,805 So anyway, I'm there, and I'm just looking, 119 00:05:06,874 --> 00:05:10,609 but I met Treyvon, and I actually liked this guy. 120 00:05:10,678 --> 00:05:13,578 I felt like there was a connection, 121 00:05:13,647 --> 00:05:15,047 and we really just hit it off. 122 00:05:15,115 --> 00:05:17,549 We really vibed. 123 00:05:17,618 --> 00:05:19,584 I love ancient Greek mythology, 124 00:05:19,653 --> 00:05:21,887 and I don't know if you guys ever heard 125 00:05:21,955 --> 00:05:25,357 there was a thing that humans used to have two heads, 126 00:05:25,426 --> 00:05:27,326 one body, they shared a heart. 127 00:05:27,394 --> 00:05:29,895 But Zeus sent down a thunderbolt, 128 00:05:29,963 --> 00:05:32,397 split everyone in half, and they kind of spent 129 00:05:32,466 --> 00:05:34,966 their life looking for their other half. 130 00:05:35,035 --> 00:05:37,569 I felt like I had found that other half of me 131 00:05:37,638 --> 00:05:39,538 as someone that understood what I wanted. 132 00:05:39,606 --> 00:05:41,273 It was amazing. 133 00:05:41,342 --> 00:05:44,109 - And you guys both live near each other in Dallas, right? 134 00:05:44,178 --> 00:05:48,613 - Yeah, he's in Dallas, but we made several attempts 135 00:05:48,682 --> 00:05:51,149 to meet up, and everything got shot down. 136 00:05:51,218 --> 00:05:54,686 So after so many disappointments with that, 137 00:05:54,755 --> 00:05:57,923 I resumed talking to my ex. 138 00:05:57,991 --> 00:06:02,627 - We got back together, and then he proposed to me. 139 00:06:02,696 --> 00:06:05,297 - Wow. - So are you engaged right now? 140 00:06:05,366 --> 00:06:07,466 - I'm engaged right now, 141 00:06:07,534 --> 00:06:09,868 but I didn't stop talking to Treyvon. 142 00:06:09,937 --> 00:06:12,704 - You have a ring? - I have a ring. 143 00:06:12,773 --> 00:06:16,875 Yeah, and I'm torn between two people, 144 00:06:16,944 --> 00:06:20,746 and I don't wanna miss my opportunity at being happy 145 00:06:20,814 --> 00:06:23,215 with someone I feel like understands me 146 00:06:23,283 --> 00:06:29,054 and knows me rather than settling for just what I have. 147 00:06:29,123 --> 00:06:33,091 - Well, Aaron, there are probably women in the world 148 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,261 who if I met I would fall in love with, 149 00:06:36,330 --> 00:06:40,265 but I made a [bleep] choice to be with my wife. 150 00:06:40,334 --> 00:06:41,800 - That part. 151 00:06:41,869 --> 00:06:44,269 - So if you're not ready to make that commitment-- 152 00:06:44,338 --> 00:06:47,372 - Well, we're not married yet. We're engaged. 153 00:06:47,441 --> 00:06:50,342 - Well, okay, that's true. - So I do have that time. 154 00:06:50,411 --> 00:06:52,544 - Look, one of them gotta go. 155 00:06:52,613 --> 00:06:54,212 - At the end of the year one does 156 00:06:54,281 --> 00:06:58,750 have to go, and that's why I needed your help to find out. 157 00:06:58,819 --> 00:07:00,986 am I making the right choice? 158 00:07:01,054 --> 00:07:04,256 - So you and your fiancé, do you guys live together now? 159 00:07:04,324 --> 00:07:05,357 - Yes. 160 00:07:05,426 --> 00:07:06,792 - So where is he? - Work. 161 00:07:06,860 --> 00:07:08,660 - So we're helping you be sneaky right now. 162 00:07:08,729 --> 00:07:10,295 Now you've got us caught up in this [bleep]. 163 00:07:10,364 --> 00:07:13,198 - So wait. So tell us about Treyvon. What's his deal? 164 00:07:13,267 --> 00:07:16,735 - So he lives in Dallas. He's a very attractive guy. 165 00:07:16,804 --> 00:07:20,005 28 29. Works at a convenience store. 166 00:07:20,073 --> 00:07:21,873 - Do you know what convenience store it is? 167 00:07:21,942 --> 00:07:24,843 - No, I have been in a couple, like, you know, 168 00:07:24,912 --> 00:07:27,712 looking around trying to see their different shifts. 169 00:07:27,781 --> 00:07:29,781 - Maybe he was in one of those stores, 170 00:07:29,850 --> 00:07:31,650 but you just didn't know what he looked like. 171 00:07:31,718 --> 00:07:33,251 - See, now, you're--you're trying to convince me 172 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,787 that he's not the person that's in that picture. 173 00:07:35,856 --> 00:07:38,123 - First of all, you called us, all right? 174 00:07:38,192 --> 00:07:39,758 I don't know if you know what the show is called. 175 00:07:39,827 --> 00:07:41,460 It's called "Catfish." 176 00:07:41,528 --> 00:07:43,428 This is not where people come to meet the love of their life. 177 00:07:43,497 --> 00:07:46,731 This is where they come to find out they're being lied to. 178 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,433 - Not all the time. 179 00:07:48,502 --> 00:07:51,736 - See, she's on my side. - I don't know what to think. 180 00:07:51,805 --> 00:07:53,271 Who messaged who first? 181 00:07:53,340 --> 00:07:55,073 - That was me. 182 00:07:55,142 --> 00:07:57,275 - Are you talking on the phone, or are you texting mostly? 183 00:07:57,344 --> 00:08:00,745 - We started off messages, and I felt comfortable enough 184 00:08:00,814 --> 00:08:03,548 to give him my personal number. 185 00:08:03,617 --> 00:08:04,983 - For texting? - Yeah. 186 00:08:05,052 --> 00:08:06,651 - Have you ever talked on the phone? 187 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:07,986 - No, we haven't talked on the phone. 188 00:08:08,055 --> 00:08:10,589 - How have you never talked on the phone? 189 00:08:10,657 --> 00:08:11,890 - I got back with my ex, 190 00:08:11,959 --> 00:08:13,625 so I wasn't thinking about the calls. 191 00:08:13,694 --> 00:08:14,993 - Can't make any calls. 192 00:08:15,062 --> 00:08:16,761 - Exactly. You can't really make them, 193 00:08:16,830 --> 00:08:18,430 and then if you have to make them, 194 00:08:18,499 --> 00:08:21,166 you gotta make them when you're at work or something like that. 195 00:08:21,235 --> 00:08:22,968 - Mm. 196 00:08:23,036 --> 00:08:24,769 - Wow. - Your conversations 197 00:08:24,838 --> 00:08:27,806 with Treyvon, have they ever gotten heated? 198 00:08:27,875 --> 00:08:29,641 - Oh, yeah, we-- those were-- 199 00:08:29,710 --> 00:08:33,245 those were the beginning conversations, 200 00:08:33,313 --> 00:08:36,781 which for me at the time of not looking for something serious, 201 00:08:36,850 --> 00:08:40,785 I was more interested in the hot, spicy conversation, 202 00:08:40,854 --> 00:08:42,921 and it went in a different route. 203 00:08:42,990 --> 00:08:45,223 - So what's the excuse? Why can't he meet up? 204 00:08:45,292 --> 00:08:47,993 - In the beginning, it started off with the COVID, 205 00:08:48,061 --> 00:08:51,029 and then it came to be a lot about work. 206 00:08:51,098 --> 00:08:53,899 He'll make plans like, "Oh, let's meet up tonight 207 00:08:53,967 --> 00:08:55,667 once you get off," and then I get off work, 208 00:08:55,736 --> 00:08:57,936 and then I don't get a message back. 209 00:08:58,005 --> 00:09:00,839 And then the next day I hear, "Oh, I got really tired. 210 00:09:00,908 --> 00:09:02,507 I took a nap." I feel like 211 00:09:02,576 --> 00:09:04,876 he's in a relationship possibly hisself. 212 00:09:04,945 --> 00:09:06,945 I don't necessarily think he's a catfish. 213 00:09:07,014 --> 00:09:09,781 I just think he has to do the same things I have to do. 214 00:09:09,850 --> 00:09:11,049 - An entanglement. 215 00:09:11,118 --> 00:09:14,352 - Yeah, Will and Jada entanglement. 216 00:09:14,421 --> 00:09:16,755 - What about social media? Does he have accounts? 217 00:09:16,823 --> 00:09:18,290 Does he post pictures? 218 00:09:18,358 --> 00:09:21,526 - I asked for his social media, and I never got it. 219 00:09:21,595 --> 00:09:23,695 - Is his dating profile still up? 220 00:09:23,764 --> 00:09:25,297 - I had to delete it, Kamie. 221 00:09:25,365 --> 00:09:26,431 - 'Cause you're engaged. 222 00:09:26,500 --> 00:09:28,199 - Yeah. - You're right. 223 00:09:28,268 --> 00:09:29,467 - Let's see this guy. 224 00:09:29,536 --> 00:09:32,737 I wanna see what Treyvon looks like. 225 00:09:32,806 --> 00:09:35,307 Wow, okay. There he is. - Ohh. 226 00:09:35,375 --> 00:09:38,076 - See, he is cute, right? - He is cute. 227 00:09:38,145 --> 00:09:40,812 - Nice, handsome face. - Mm-hmm. 228 00:09:40,881 --> 00:09:42,180 - So he texted these to you? 229 00:09:42,249 --> 00:09:44,082 - Yeah. - So here's my question. 230 00:09:44,151 --> 00:09:47,719 If we connect with Treyvon and it is him 231 00:09:47,788 --> 00:09:49,087 and he does live in Dallas 232 00:09:49,156 --> 00:09:51,923 and he reveals to you that he was sort of 233 00:09:51,992 --> 00:09:53,625 in a relationship; that's over now, 234 00:09:53,694 --> 00:09:55,260 and he wants to be with you, 235 00:09:55,329 --> 00:09:57,729 are you going to break things off with your fiancé? 236 00:09:57,798 --> 00:09:58,897 What's your plan? 237 00:09:58,966 --> 00:10:00,265 - My plan is to meet up with him 238 00:10:00,334 --> 00:10:02,867 and fill it out and see where it goes, 239 00:10:02,936 --> 00:10:04,636 but the way I feel about him, 240 00:10:04,705 --> 00:10:09,341 I feel like I'm probably gonna end the engagement 241 00:10:09,409 --> 00:10:11,376 and move forward with Treyvon. 242 00:10:11,445 --> 00:10:14,546 - But don't you think that you should do that anyway? 243 00:10:14,615 --> 00:10:17,882 Maybe this is all a sign that your fiancé is not the one 244 00:10:17,951 --> 00:10:19,985 that you're supposed to have that with. 245 00:10:20,053 --> 00:10:22,654 - I can make that decision afterwards. 246 00:10:22,723 --> 00:10:24,623 I want a little more information. 247 00:10:24,691 --> 00:10:25,824 - Okay. 248 00:10:25,892 --> 00:10:27,125 - Part of me feels like at some point 249 00:10:27,194 --> 00:10:29,194 while we're making this episode, 250 00:10:29,262 --> 00:10:31,997 you should talk to your fiancé. 251 00:10:32,065 --> 00:10:33,698 I just feel like everyone should know the truth. 252 00:10:33,767 --> 00:10:35,400 - Everyone does deserve to know the truth, 253 00:10:35,469 --> 00:10:37,836 but let's play it by ear. 254 00:10:37,904 --> 00:10:39,437 - Okay. All right. 255 00:10:39,506 --> 00:10:41,373 So look, you just sent us an email with all the info, 256 00:10:41,441 --> 00:10:43,842 and we'll start doing some research 257 00:10:43,910 --> 00:10:45,076 and hopefully find something. 258 00:10:45,145 --> 00:10:47,078 - Okay. - All right, later, Aaron. 259 00:10:47,147 --> 00:10:50,348 - Bye. 260 00:10:50,417 --> 00:10:52,951 - I don't see things ending well for Aaron. 261 00:10:53,020 --> 00:10:56,955 The crazy thing is, if we meet Treyvon, and he is real, 262 00:10:57,024 --> 00:10:59,724 and he finds out that Aaron has been lying to him, 263 00:10:59,793 --> 00:11:02,260 Treyvon may not even wanna be with Aaron. 264 00:11:02,329 --> 00:11:04,729 There's really no way this works out for Aaron. 265 00:11:04,798 --> 00:11:06,698 - No, he's gonna have to get a new apartment. 266 00:11:06,767 --> 00:11:08,233 - He's gonna have to leave Texas. 267 00:11:08,301 --> 00:11:09,234 - [laughs] 268 00:11:09,302 --> 00:11:12,037 [bleep] is about to get ugly. 269 00:11:14,775 --> 00:11:16,574 - We're back. - It's a [bleep] situation. 270 00:11:16,643 --> 00:11:20,311 - It is a hairy pickle for sure. 271 00:11:20,380 --> 00:11:23,715 We got Aaron who's been talking to a guy in Treyvon 272 00:11:23,784 --> 00:11:25,183 who we met on a hookup app. 273 00:11:25,252 --> 00:11:27,185 When they started talking, Aaron was single having 274 00:11:27,254 --> 00:11:29,921 just recently broken up with his boyfriend. 275 00:11:29,990 --> 00:11:31,322 Talked for a few months. Things were getting 276 00:11:31,391 --> 00:11:33,191 hot and heavy. They were excited to meet up, 277 00:11:33,260 --> 00:11:35,694 but Treyvon kept coming up with excuses, 278 00:11:35,762 --> 00:11:38,396 and then Aaron and his ex got back together. 279 00:11:38,465 --> 00:11:41,666 The ex proposed, and Aaron said yes, so they were now engaged, 280 00:11:41,735 --> 00:11:46,237 but Aaron's still talking to Treyvon and feels a connection 281 00:11:46,306 --> 00:11:49,007 to Treyvon that's stronger and more romantic 282 00:11:49,076 --> 00:11:52,343 than he feels for his fiancé whom he lives with. 283 00:11:52,412 --> 00:11:55,013 - I am sure that Aaron's fiancé is lovely, 284 00:11:55,082 --> 00:11:56,948 but that engagement needs to end. 285 00:11:57,017 --> 00:11:59,117 I don't even necessarily want Aaron with Treyvon. 286 00:11:59,186 --> 00:12:02,253 I just need him to be single. 287 00:12:02,322 --> 00:12:04,723 - Yeah. All right. So let's see what we got here. 288 00:12:04,791 --> 00:12:06,357 Here's an email from Aaron. All right. 289 00:12:06,426 --> 00:12:09,961 "Hey, Nev and Kamie, thanks for talking with me today. 290 00:12:10,030 --> 00:12:11,429 "Here's the info I have on Treyvon. 291 00:12:11,498 --> 00:12:14,299 "His last name is Allen, and he lives in Dallas, Texas. 292 00:12:14,367 --> 00:12:16,367 "Here's his phone number. Doesn't have any social media, 293 00:12:16,436 --> 00:12:19,204 "but I've attached the pictures he sent me. 294 00:12:19,272 --> 00:12:21,106 Here's hoping, Aaron." 295 00:12:21,174 --> 00:12:23,274 All right, let's--I wanna start with the pictures. 296 00:12:23,343 --> 00:12:25,977 So here's the first one. 297 00:12:26,046 --> 00:12:29,447 Okay, nothing there. 298 00:12:29,516 --> 00:12:30,548 Nothing. 299 00:12:30,617 --> 00:12:32,717 - Mm-hmm. 300 00:12:32,786 --> 00:12:33,752 Nothing. 301 00:12:33,820 --> 00:12:35,120 - Augh. 302 00:12:35,188 --> 00:12:37,155 All right, we got one more picture. 303 00:12:37,224 --> 00:12:38,623 Dang. 304 00:12:38,692 --> 00:12:41,926 All right, so nothing comes back with the pictures. Bummer. 305 00:12:41,995 --> 00:12:43,995 - I wanna see Aaron's Facebook, 306 00:12:44,064 --> 00:12:46,364 'cause I just feel like we have to 307 00:12:46,433 --> 00:12:47,999 do all the things. 308 00:12:49,569 --> 00:12:52,003 - So here's Aaron. 309 00:12:52,072 --> 00:12:55,373 - Aaron. Where's his boo? - Oh, look. 310 00:12:55,442 --> 00:12:58,209 Right here. He's engaged. Hakeem Davenport. 311 00:12:58,278 --> 00:13:00,845 - March 26. "I just have too much fun with him" 312 00:13:00,914 --> 00:13:02,847 with a heart, and then his fiancé 313 00:13:02,916 --> 00:13:05,517 Hakeem wrote, "Love you my bad bunny." 314 00:13:05,585 --> 00:13:08,753 - Okay, let's check out his fiancé's page. Here he is. 315 00:13:08,822 --> 00:13:10,255 Wow. 316 00:13:10,323 --> 00:13:13,324 - He got Aaron's name put on his manicure? 317 00:13:13,393 --> 00:13:18,196 I have not put a boy's name on my manicure in years. 318 00:13:18,265 --> 00:13:20,799 - You've done that? - Yeah, in, like, high school. 319 00:13:20,867 --> 00:13:22,066 - Oh, my God. 320 00:13:22,135 --> 00:13:23,268 - That's how you know it's real, 321 00:13:23,336 --> 00:13:24,836 'cause that gotta last, like, three weeks. 322 00:13:24,905 --> 00:13:26,504 - I mean, they seem pretty happy. 323 00:13:26,573 --> 00:13:27,806 - I mean, yeah. 324 00:13:27,874 --> 00:13:29,474 Now I feel bad. Why did we come on his page? 325 00:13:29,543 --> 00:13:31,709 - That's what I said. - Whose idea was this? 326 00:13:31,778 --> 00:13:33,144 - I was already feeling bad. 327 00:13:33,213 --> 00:13:34,946 But now I have to actually see the fiancé 328 00:13:35,015 --> 00:13:37,015 and like how cute they are together. 329 00:13:37,083 --> 00:13:38,950 Yeah. What else do we have? 330 00:13:39,019 --> 00:13:42,220 Let's check the old phone number. 331 00:13:42,289 --> 00:13:45,857 What? Caller name Paris [bleep]. 332 00:13:45,926 --> 00:13:47,425 - But it also says Bandwidth.com. 333 00:13:47,494 --> 00:13:52,630 - I know, and that's a landline in Texas 38. 334 00:13:52,699 --> 00:13:54,933 Wow, very interesting. 335 00:13:55,001 --> 00:13:58,703 - Is Paris a guy? Is Paris not? - Maybe. 336 00:13:58,772 --> 00:14:02,440 Whoa, ten previous addresses? Buffalo, Mount Vernon. 337 00:14:02,509 --> 00:14:03,875 - He's been getting around. 338 00:14:03,944 --> 00:14:05,643 - Why is it coming up as a landline? 339 00:14:05,712 --> 00:14:07,712 - I don't think we've ever seen that where it's come up 340 00:14:07,781 --> 00:14:08,947 as a text app number 341 00:14:09,015 --> 00:14:11,115 and also has a name attached to it. 342 00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:13,351 - That is so weird. All right, we gotta look this up. 343 00:14:13,420 --> 00:14:17,522 Let's do a little Facebook search of Paris [bleep]. 344 00:14:17,591 --> 00:14:19,557 Let's see. Here's a Buffalo. 345 00:14:19,626 --> 00:14:22,627 That was one of the cities that the phone number linked to. 346 00:14:22,696 --> 00:14:26,331 And the fact that there's a guy named Paris in Buffalo 347 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:27,999 and the fact that he's in Buffalo would explain 348 00:14:28,068 --> 00:14:30,568 why he can't meet up. 349 00:14:30,637 --> 00:14:33,738 - And look, he's in a relationship with Charlene, 350 00:14:33,807 --> 00:14:35,206 but maybe he's bi. 351 00:14:35,275 --> 00:14:37,675 - So they might-- - He would have a secret. 352 00:14:37,744 --> 00:14:39,077 They both have a secret. 353 00:14:39,145 --> 00:14:41,045 - Well, and Aaron would be right 354 00:14:41,114 --> 00:14:43,248 that may be the reason he's having a hard time 355 00:14:43,316 --> 00:14:45,850 connecting with Treyvon is because he's in a relationship. 356 00:14:45,919 --> 00:14:47,585 - Mm-hmm. 357 00:14:47,654 --> 00:14:51,155 - We have a lead potentially with Paris, and we connected it 358 00:14:51,224 --> 00:14:55,093 to an account for this guy who says he lives in Buffalo 359 00:14:55,161 --> 00:14:57,295 but potentially could be who we're looking for. 360 00:14:57,364 --> 00:15:01,065 - Mm-hmm. The fact that the phone search came back saying 361 00:15:01,134 --> 00:15:04,702 that whoever Paris is also had a Buffalo address, 362 00:15:04,771 --> 00:15:06,771 I just feel like it's, like-- 363 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,473 - Right. It is certainly 364 00:15:08,541 --> 00:15:12,176 looking like this--this guy is a suspect. 365 00:15:12,245 --> 00:15:15,113 - Or it is the real Treyvon Allen in the pictures. 366 00:15:15,181 --> 00:15:17,181 We just can't find him, and he's shy 367 00:15:17,250 --> 00:15:19,083 and doesn't wanna meet up yet. 368 00:15:19,152 --> 00:15:20,952 - Right. - Could also be the case. 369 00:15:21,021 --> 00:15:23,621 - Or he's in a relationship. 370 00:15:23,690 --> 00:15:26,424 It's really him, but he's just got something else going on... 371 00:15:26,493 --> 00:15:27,458 - Right. 372 00:15:27,527 --> 00:15:29,527 - Like Aaron has something else going on. 373 00:15:29,596 --> 00:15:32,664 - Speaking of which, I don't feel like Aaron 374 00:15:32,732 --> 00:15:35,400 is giving Hakeem his fiancé 375 00:15:35,468 --> 00:15:38,403 a real picture of what's actually been going on, 376 00:15:38,471 --> 00:15:40,371 because he's over here playing house 377 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,140 while he's got, like, this whole other life 378 00:15:42,208 --> 00:15:43,775 that he's living somewhere else. 379 00:15:43,843 --> 00:15:47,011 I don't think that his fiancé is prepared for any of this. 380 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,546 Like, this is gonna be a complete ambush. 381 00:15:48,615 --> 00:15:51,316 - Look, the reality here is, if Aaron wants the truth, 382 00:15:51,384 --> 00:15:54,352 he's gonna have to start telling the truth. 383 00:15:58,992 --> 00:16:01,159 - Let's get back in touch with Aaron 384 00:16:01,227 --> 00:16:03,695 and see if we can't get to the bottom of this. 385 00:16:03,763 --> 00:16:05,964 So let me text Aaron a Zoom link. 386 00:16:06,032 --> 00:16:07,999 - I don't know why I have a feeling that when Aaron 387 00:16:08,068 --> 00:16:09,867 hears the phone number comes back to that guy 388 00:16:09,936 --> 00:16:12,537 Paris [bleep] that we found, he's gonna know who it is. 389 00:16:12,605 --> 00:16:14,973 I just feel like there's a connection. 390 00:16:15,041 --> 00:16:16,074 [computer chimes] 391 00:16:16,142 --> 00:16:18,209 - Hey, guys. - Hey, what's up, man? 392 00:16:18,278 --> 00:16:20,211 What have you been up to these last few hours? 393 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,781 - Oh, man, just ripping the seat and wondering. 394 00:16:23,850 --> 00:16:25,116 - Well... 395 00:16:25,185 --> 00:16:27,285 - We did some research. We have some information. 396 00:16:27,354 --> 00:16:30,288 We're not sure really what it means, but hopefully, 397 00:16:30,357 --> 00:16:32,890 you can actually help make some sense out of it. 398 00:16:32,959 --> 00:16:35,760 - Okay. - So I'm gonna share my screen 399 00:16:35,829 --> 00:16:39,430 and show you kind of what we did. 400 00:16:39,499 --> 00:16:41,265 So we ran all the pictures, and none of them 401 00:16:41,334 --> 00:16:42,934 came back with any results. 402 00:16:43,003 --> 00:16:45,536 Now, here's where it gets interesting. 403 00:16:45,605 --> 00:16:47,171 We ran the phone number. 404 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,272 - Okay. 405 00:16:48,341 --> 00:16:50,742 - And the phone number came back 406 00:16:50,810 --> 00:16:53,811 to someone named Paris [bleep]. 407 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,880 Now, does that name mean anything to you? 408 00:16:55,949 --> 00:16:59,317 - Hell freaking yeah. - I told you. 409 00:16:59,386 --> 00:17:02,153 I told you it would. Okay, tell, tell us, tell us, 410 00:17:02,222 --> 00:17:04,355 tell us, tell us, tell us, tell us, tell us. 411 00:17:04,424 --> 00:17:06,724 - That's my fiancé. 412 00:17:06,793 --> 00:17:08,626 - What? - Yeah. 413 00:17:08,695 --> 00:17:10,061 - Shut up. Wait. 414 00:17:10,130 --> 00:17:12,163 I thought your fiancé's name was Hakeem. 415 00:17:12,232 --> 00:17:14,932 - That's his stage name. 416 00:17:15,001 --> 00:17:17,902 - His stage name is Hakeem Davenport. 417 00:17:17,971 --> 00:17:19,871 His real name is Paris [bleep] 418 00:17:19,939 --> 00:17:23,141 - Oh, my God. Wait a second. So-- 419 00:17:23,209 --> 00:17:24,342 - Aaron. 420 00:17:24,411 --> 00:17:27,712 - Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. 421 00:17:27,781 --> 00:17:30,548 - That's your fiancé's actual name? 422 00:17:30,617 --> 00:17:31,983 - Yeah. 423 00:17:32,052 --> 00:17:37,088 - Well, then I guess Treyvon is your fiancé, 424 00:17:37,157 --> 00:17:40,391 because the phone number comes back to that name. 425 00:17:40,460 --> 00:17:41,959 Oh, my goodness. 426 00:17:42,028 --> 00:17:43,661 - The pickle is no longer hairy. 427 00:17:43,730 --> 00:17:45,863 The pickle is on fire. 428 00:17:45,932 --> 00:17:47,398 - Why does he go by Hakeem Davenport? 429 00:17:47,467 --> 00:17:51,302 - Davenport is a drag last name - Oh, it is? Okay. 430 00:17:51,371 --> 00:17:52,437 - Wow. 431 00:17:52,505 --> 00:17:54,005 - What's going through your mind? 432 00:17:54,074 --> 00:17:56,040 - I honestly don't understand if that is him, 433 00:17:56,109 --> 00:17:58,609 why would you do that instead of just coming to me? 434 00:17:58,678 --> 00:18:02,280 And if you wanted to get on a--a more intimate side 435 00:18:02,348 --> 00:18:04,549 of getting to know me and knowing what I like 436 00:18:04,617 --> 00:18:06,517 and what it is that I want and wanna be, 437 00:18:06,586 --> 00:18:10,822 just come to me and give me the opportunity to talk to you. 438 00:18:10,890 --> 00:18:12,523 Why did you have to be someone else 439 00:18:12,592 --> 00:18:14,025 and then keep up a charade 440 00:18:14,094 --> 00:18:18,229 and have me wondering am I torn between two people 441 00:18:18,298 --> 00:18:21,399 or am I just torn between a crazy-ass person, you know? 442 00:18:21,468 --> 00:18:25,870 - Now, wait a second. I'm obviously with you all 443 00:18:25,939 --> 00:18:27,438 in assuming that it is your fiancé, 444 00:18:27,507 --> 00:18:29,173 but at the same time, 445 00:18:29,242 --> 00:18:31,742 the phone search indicated the number is a text app, 446 00:18:31,811 --> 00:18:33,978 and I don't think we've ever seen a text app number 447 00:18:34,047 --> 00:18:35,913 come back with a name attached. - Right. 448 00:18:35,982 --> 00:18:37,882 - Could someone have done that on purpose? 449 00:18:37,951 --> 00:18:39,417 Like, is there someone who could potentially 450 00:18:39,486 --> 00:18:40,885 be messing with you? 451 00:18:40,954 --> 00:18:43,154 - Right. Because if I'm your fiancé 452 00:18:43,223 --> 00:18:46,724 and if I see now that you're still trying 453 00:18:46,793 --> 00:18:48,126 to carry on a relationship with me 454 00:18:48,194 --> 00:18:50,661 as Treyvon I'm outing you right there. 455 00:18:50,730 --> 00:18:53,831 - If that is him, why would you keep it going on? 456 00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:56,200 - And it is weird that when he registered 457 00:18:56,269 --> 00:18:58,703 that text app number he put his real name. 458 00:18:58,771 --> 00:19:02,807 - Right. Could someone be trying to make it seem 459 00:19:02,876 --> 00:19:04,909 like they're your fiancé talking to you 460 00:19:04,978 --> 00:19:06,811 to try to set you up in some kind of way? 461 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,679 - This is just [bleep] crazy, man. 462 00:19:08,748 --> 00:19:11,616 This is, like, wow. 463 00:19:11,684 --> 00:19:14,485 - I am now concerned, because 464 00:19:14,554 --> 00:19:17,955 what time does Paris get off of work? 465 00:19:18,024 --> 00:19:19,524 - He's got a couple hours. 466 00:19:19,592 --> 00:19:23,127 - When Paris gets home tonight, it's gonna be weird. 467 00:19:23,196 --> 00:19:27,298 And rather than you guys potentially or--or likely 468 00:19:27,367 --> 00:19:29,934 getting into it and it becoming an issue 469 00:19:30,003 --> 00:19:32,436 or a fight or an argument or whatever, 470 00:19:32,505 --> 00:19:35,806 maybe we should text him right now and just see what he says. 471 00:19:35,875 --> 00:19:38,242 - Well, it's the only way we're gonna find out I guess. 472 00:19:38,311 --> 00:19:41,012 I've figured out something from this point. 473 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:45,716 - So what's Paris' number? - 470 [bleep] 474 00:19:45,785 --> 00:19:46,918 - All right, I'll say, 475 00:19:46,986 --> 00:19:48,152 "Hey, Paris, this is Nev from 'Catfish' 476 00:19:48,221 --> 00:19:49,787 "We're working on an episode now 477 00:19:49,856 --> 00:19:51,055 "and would love to chat with you. 478 00:19:51,124 --> 00:19:53,824 Please give me a call when you can. Thanks." 479 00:19:53,893 --> 00:19:55,626 So that's sent. 480 00:19:55,695 --> 00:19:57,962 - Wow, wow, wow. 481 00:19:58,031 --> 00:20:01,499 - I'd like to obviously help get to the very, very bottom 482 00:20:01,568 --> 00:20:04,302 of all this, but you're in a precarious situation 483 00:20:04,370 --> 00:20:07,038 where it appears as though the person who's catfishing you 484 00:20:07,106 --> 00:20:09,073 is the same person you share a bed with, 485 00:20:09,142 --> 00:20:10,875 and there's not a lot we can do 486 00:20:10,944 --> 00:20:13,144 from where we're sitting in California. 487 00:20:13,213 --> 00:20:17,281 Obviously, as a show, we want to be involved and helpful, 488 00:20:17,350 --> 00:20:19,584 but also as human beings, 489 00:20:19,652 --> 00:20:21,085 we want you to handle your business 490 00:20:21,154 --> 00:20:24,255 how you see it best fit to be here. 491 00:20:24,324 --> 00:20:26,324 So when Paris gets home later if you feel like 492 00:20:26,392 --> 00:20:28,059 the right thing to do is bring it up 493 00:20:28,127 --> 00:20:30,261 and talk to him about it, then you should do that. 494 00:20:30,330 --> 00:20:32,997 We'll make ourselves available whenever. 495 00:20:33,066 --> 00:20:35,099 You know, you sort of have to play it by ear 496 00:20:35,168 --> 00:20:38,769 and let us know as it unfolds. 497 00:20:38,838 --> 00:20:40,705 ♪ ♪ 498 00:20:40,773 --> 00:20:43,407 - ♪ Something wasn't right ♪ 499 00:20:43,476 --> 00:20:46,978 - Wow, that's a lot. 500 00:20:47,046 --> 00:20:48,746 - I hate that we're not there. 501 00:20:48,815 --> 00:20:51,415 Ideally, we would be with you all night until he came home 502 00:20:51,484 --> 00:20:53,384 and, like, sat there with you and waited 503 00:20:53,453 --> 00:20:55,586 and, you know, had the conversation, 504 00:20:55,655 --> 00:20:58,289 but because of all the restrictions we can't do that 505 00:20:58,358 --> 00:21:02,193 and I hate that. I wish that we could. 506 00:21:02,262 --> 00:21:04,829 - Wow. - Are you gonna be okay? 507 00:21:04,897 --> 00:21:06,330 - I need to go to the bar 508 00:21:06,399 --> 00:21:08,633 and have a margarita or something. 509 00:21:08,701 --> 00:21:11,269 - Obviously, if I hear anything or if anything goes down 510 00:21:11,337 --> 00:21:13,371 I'll let you know, and then we'll just-- 511 00:21:13,439 --> 00:21:15,773 we'll just check in in the morning. 512 00:21:15,842 --> 00:21:18,943 - Okay. 513 00:21:19,012 --> 00:21:21,245 Sound like a plan to me. 514 00:21:21,314 --> 00:21:22,713 - All right Aaron. 515 00:21:22,782 --> 00:21:24,415 - All right, guys. 516 00:21:24,484 --> 00:21:26,250 - All right, have a good night. - All right, bye. 517 00:21:26,319 --> 00:21:27,852 both: Bye. 518 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,087 [computer chimes] 519 00:21:30,156 --> 00:21:32,056 - This is weird. I mean, this is-- 520 00:21:32,125 --> 00:21:33,324 - I'm afraid they're gonna fight tonight. 521 00:21:33,393 --> 00:21:35,559 - Well, look, either this ticking time bomb 522 00:21:35,628 --> 00:21:37,194 is gonna blow up 523 00:21:37,263 --> 00:21:38,963 or somehow we're gonna make it through the night, 524 00:21:39,032 --> 00:21:42,199 and tomorrow all will be revealed. 525 00:21:43,636 --> 00:21:47,905 - Okay, I'm getting a call from Aaron. 526 00:21:47,974 --> 00:21:50,975 It's a FaceTime. 527 00:21:54,580 --> 00:21:56,080 Hey, man. What's up? 528 00:21:57,250 --> 00:22:00,918 He came home earlier just to leave. 529 00:22:00,987 --> 00:22:03,888 and go back out to do an overnight shift at work. 530 00:22:03,956 --> 00:22:07,825 - Is it common for him to do--like, come home 531 00:22:07,894 --> 00:22:11,329 and then go back and do an overnight shift like this? 532 00:22:11,397 --> 00:22:12,730 - Yeah. - Oh, okay. 533 00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:14,298 - He didn't show any signs of, "Oh, 534 00:22:14,367 --> 00:22:16,534 I got that message," or anything like that so... 535 00:22:16,602 --> 00:22:19,737 - Right. Was it weird, though? 536 00:22:19,806 --> 00:22:21,972 - Yeah, it's very weird. 537 00:22:22,041 --> 00:22:23,407 - Wow. All right. Interesting. 538 00:22:23,476 --> 00:22:24,909 I guess just try to get some rest 539 00:22:24,977 --> 00:22:28,412 and we'll feel out tomorrow and see what shakes out. 540 00:22:28,481 --> 00:22:30,581 - See if we can get to the bottom of it. 541 00:22:30,650 --> 00:22:31,816 - Yeah. - Peace out. 542 00:22:31,884 --> 00:22:34,685 - All right. Good night. 543 00:22:34,754 --> 00:22:37,054 [tense music] 544 00:22:37,123 --> 00:22:38,255 Morning. 545 00:22:39,459 --> 00:22:40,858 - Got a little bit of an update here. 546 00:22:40,927 --> 00:22:43,961 I got a phone call last night from Aaron. 547 00:22:44,030 --> 00:22:48,065 Basically, Paris came back from work. 548 00:22:48,134 --> 00:22:51,736 So he took some clothes and went back to work, 549 00:22:51,804 --> 00:22:55,106 but there was no discussion about any of this. 550 00:22:55,174 --> 00:22:58,042 - That's a little sus, 'cause we texted him, 551 00:22:58,111 --> 00:23:00,010 and there's no way you would get a text like that 552 00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:01,912 and come home to your fiancé and not be like, 553 00:23:01,981 --> 00:23:03,547 "Oh, my God. The weirdest thing happened." 554 00:23:03,616 --> 00:23:05,149 - Well, that to me 555 00:23:05,218 --> 00:23:09,720 indicates that Paris clearly is involved in this. 556 00:23:09,789 --> 00:23:11,655 - There's no way he's not involved. 557 00:23:11,724 --> 00:23:15,292 - I guess we got a text Aaron, check in with him. 558 00:23:16,095 --> 00:23:18,129 - I don't know. Do I feel bad for Aaron? 559 00:23:18,197 --> 00:23:20,865 I don't know. Do I feel bad for Paris? 560 00:23:20,933 --> 00:23:23,200 I don't know. Do I feel bad for Treyvon? 561 00:23:23,269 --> 00:23:25,469 I don't know. 562 00:23:25,538 --> 00:23:27,471 I don't know who I feel bad for. 563 00:23:27,540 --> 00:23:29,273 [computer chimes] - Oh. 564 00:23:29,342 --> 00:23:31,108 - Hello. 565 00:23:31,177 --> 00:23:34,545 - Hey, guys, what's up? - Hey, Aaron. What's up? 566 00:23:34,614 --> 00:23:37,548 You seem a little... - Somber. 567 00:23:37,617 --> 00:23:38,916 - Yeah. 568 00:23:38,985 --> 00:23:42,086 - Yeah. Rough night actually. 569 00:23:42,155 --> 00:23:44,355 Rough night. Like I told Nev earlier, 570 00:23:44,424 --> 00:23:46,357 he came home. He didn't mention the text 571 00:23:46,426 --> 00:23:49,226 that he had got from me or anything like that. 572 00:23:49,295 --> 00:23:52,930 So I just kind of let it ride, and then he just like, 573 00:23:52,999 --> 00:23:54,031 "Yeah, I'm gonna get some clothes 574 00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:55,833 and leave out, go back to work." 575 00:23:55,902 --> 00:23:58,402 - The overnight shift is--is over. 576 00:23:58,471 --> 00:23:59,537 - Yeah, it's over. 577 00:23:59,605 --> 00:24:01,372 - So is he home in bed sleeping? 578 00:24:01,441 --> 00:24:03,140 - No. - Where is he? 579 00:24:03,209 --> 00:24:04,608 - I have no idea. 580 00:24:04,677 --> 00:24:07,445 - What does your instinct tell you? 581 00:24:07,513 --> 00:24:11,348 - My instinct is just telling me to just find out 582 00:24:11,417 --> 00:24:13,083 who this is no matter 583 00:24:13,152 --> 00:24:15,953 whether it's Paris or someone else. 584 00:24:16,022 --> 00:24:18,856 By the end of today I just need to know who this is. 585 00:24:18,925 --> 00:24:20,491 - I mean, he hasn't responded to my text. 586 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,927 Do you wanna try and text him and just say, 587 00:24:22,995 --> 00:24:25,663 "Hey, can you chat? Can we talk? 588 00:24:25,731 --> 00:24:27,164 Are you coming home?" Because maybe 589 00:24:27,233 --> 00:24:29,200 he's--I don't know. I mean, yeah. 590 00:24:29,268 --> 00:24:30,534 - Yeah, I texted him and said, "Hey, 591 00:24:30,603 --> 00:24:33,437 where are you right now?" Let's see. 592 00:24:33,506 --> 00:24:37,107 - Okay. Did he-- did he see your message? Did he respond? 593 00:24:37,176 --> 00:24:40,077 - He's read that one, but he hasn't responded to it. 594 00:24:40,146 --> 00:24:41,779 - What do we think the chances are that Paris 595 00:24:41,848 --> 00:24:45,015 is a non-participant in this entire thing, 596 00:24:45,084 --> 00:24:47,051 he has nothing to do with it? 597 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,921 - I think those odds are going down every moment 598 00:24:50,990 --> 00:24:52,423 we don't hear back from him. 599 00:24:52,492 --> 00:24:56,160 - I kind of figured like after last night it was him, 600 00:24:56,229 --> 00:25:00,364 but I was like really hoping that it wasn't. 601 00:25:00,433 --> 00:25:01,599 [phone dings] 602 00:25:01,667 --> 00:25:04,301 - What? Did something come in? - Mm-hmm. 603 00:25:04,370 --> 00:25:05,836 - You got a text? 604 00:25:05,905 --> 00:25:08,072 - Yeah, but it's from Treyvon. 605 00:25:08,140 --> 00:25:09,707 - Oh, no. 606 00:25:09,775 --> 00:25:11,308 - Wow. - No. 607 00:25:11,377 --> 00:25:13,644 I mean, is this Paris like trying to make it seem 608 00:25:13,713 --> 00:25:17,214 like they're different people? Just like casually texting. 609 00:25:17,283 --> 00:25:20,284 - What are you--you're casually texting back. 610 00:25:20,353 --> 00:25:22,319 - What am I--what else am I gonna do? 611 00:25:22,388 --> 00:25:25,122 I wanna get straight to it. Like, my next question 612 00:25:25,191 --> 00:25:26,790 was about to be getting straight to it. 613 00:25:26,859 --> 00:25:27,892 - Then let's [bleep] do it. [line trilling] 614 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,361 both: Oh. - Are you're calling Treyvon? 615 00:25:30,429 --> 00:25:32,930 - Yeah. 616 00:25:32,999 --> 00:25:36,901 This Treyvon? 617 00:25:36,969 --> 00:25:39,036 This is Aaron. 618 00:25:44,277 --> 00:25:46,076 I need to talk to you about something, 619 00:25:46,145 --> 00:25:47,478 and I've been dying to meet you. 620 00:25:47,547 --> 00:25:49,246 I've been trying to meet you for months. 621 00:25:49,315 --> 00:25:52,149 Countless months we've been planning to meet up. 622 00:25:52,218 --> 00:25:53,717 You've been blowing me off 623 00:25:53,786 --> 00:25:57,454 and I need to talk to you like face-to-face. 624 00:25:57,523 --> 00:26:00,090 Are you able to do a Zoom? 625 00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:08,499 Since you don't--you really don't have time 626 00:26:08,568 --> 00:26:10,367 for it I'll just go in and just lay it out there. 627 00:26:10,436 --> 00:26:14,371 I got back in a relationship with my ex, 628 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,509 and we are now engaged and planning for a wedding 629 00:26:18,578 --> 00:26:21,045 towards the end of the year. 630 00:26:21,113 --> 00:26:23,347 But I had very strong feelings for you 631 00:26:23,416 --> 00:26:25,215 or have very strong feelings for you 632 00:26:25,284 --> 00:26:28,552 and what I wanted to know was if you 633 00:26:28,621 --> 00:26:31,722 and I were something that was supposed to happen 634 00:26:31,791 --> 00:26:35,426 or just something that was just supposed to be overlooked. 635 00:26:38,564 --> 00:26:40,264 - I mean... 636 00:26:40,333 --> 00:26:41,966 - Is there something you're hiding from me 637 00:26:42,034 --> 00:26:46,070 or keeping from me? 638 00:26:52,345 --> 00:26:55,946 No, you're giving me ultimatum after the first time 639 00:26:56,015 --> 00:26:59,116 us being on the phone you're giving me ultimatums. 640 00:27:08,527 --> 00:27:09,493 - Sure. Say yes. 641 00:27:09,562 --> 00:27:12,463 - Say no. - Yeah, sure. 642 00:27:12,531 --> 00:27:15,099 That's what I'll do. 643 00:27:21,941 --> 00:27:23,440 - It's a trap. 644 00:27:23,509 --> 00:27:25,743 - He just put me in an ultimatum to leave my fiancé. 645 00:27:25,811 --> 00:27:27,411 - Because it's a trap. 646 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,179 - It's gotta be a friend. Did you recognize the voice? 647 00:27:29,248 --> 00:27:31,415 - No. - Paris is with whoever 648 00:27:31,484 --> 00:27:33,283 that person is and put them on the phone 649 00:27:33,352 --> 00:27:36,387 and he was probably telling him just find this out. 650 00:27:36,455 --> 00:27:37,521 - Right. 651 00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:39,023 - I really just want to send him the link. 652 00:27:39,091 --> 00:27:41,659 - Send them the link. What is your plan? 653 00:27:41,727 --> 00:27:45,029 If Paris pops in here which I'm assuming he will, 654 00:27:45,097 --> 00:27:46,797 what is your plan? 655 00:27:46,866 --> 00:27:52,369 - If this is him, it's gonna piss me off really like worse 656 00:27:52,438 --> 00:27:56,206 than what I am already feeling pissed off and angry and upset. 657 00:27:56,275 --> 00:27:58,375 - Is a part of you still thinking that the Treyvon 658 00:27:58,444 --> 00:28:00,944 in the pictures is gonna come in the Zoom? 659 00:28:01,013 --> 00:28:03,013 - Yeah. Yeah. 660 00:28:03,082 --> 00:28:06,316 If it is Paris of course I'm gonna be upset about that. 661 00:28:06,385 --> 00:28:08,252 So I'm hoping that Treyvon is actually the person 662 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,655 in the picture or somebody else altogether, you know? 663 00:28:11,724 --> 00:28:13,991 - This is Paris. It is. 664 00:28:14,060 --> 00:28:15,092 [phone dings] 665 00:28:15,161 --> 00:28:18,762 - So he says he's ready to talk. 666 00:28:18,831 --> 00:28:21,031 - Are you ready? 667 00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:23,000 - Hey, ready Freddy. 668 00:28:23,069 --> 00:28:26,570 [tense music] 669 00:28:26,639 --> 00:28:27,938 - So he says he's ready to talk. 670 00:28:28,007 --> 00:28:29,173 - Are you ready? 671 00:28:29,241 --> 00:28:31,341 - Hey, ready Freddy. 672 00:28:31,410 --> 00:28:37,014 [computer chimes] - Oh. 673 00:28:37,083 --> 00:28:38,348 - Hey. 674 00:28:38,417 --> 00:28:40,117 - Why the [bleep] would you do 675 00:28:40,186 --> 00:28:41,919 some stupid [bleep] like this for? 676 00:28:41,987 --> 00:28:43,854 - Yeah, are you gagging now? Yeah. 677 00:28:43,923 --> 00:28:47,157 - All you had to do was set up [bleep] in a house. 678 00:28:47,226 --> 00:28:50,594 What the [bleep] is this about? Pretending to be somebody else. 679 00:28:50,663 --> 00:28:52,663 We both lying in this relationship. 680 00:28:52,732 --> 00:28:54,231 - I'm one person. 681 00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:57,401 I introduced myself as Aaron, not as anybody else, 682 00:28:57,470 --> 00:29:01,105 - Now, listen to me. You reached out to who? 683 00:29:01,173 --> 00:29:02,506 - I reached to-- - To Treyvon. 684 00:29:02,575 --> 00:29:05,242 Say--say his name. Who did you reach out to? 685 00:29:05,311 --> 00:29:07,611 Did you ever tell me about Treyvon? 686 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,380 Have you ever talked to me about Treyvon? 687 00:29:10,449 --> 00:29:13,016 - What the [bleep]? You are Treyvon, fool. 688 00:29:13,085 --> 00:29:14,451 - I wanted to go see if you mess around 689 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,386 with anybody else in this relationship. 690 00:29:16,455 --> 00:29:20,190 I wanna keep my eyes on you at all given times. 691 00:29:20,259 --> 00:29:21,892 - Didn't I tell y'all he was crazy? 692 00:29:21,961 --> 00:29:24,895 I'm up here thinking that it's somebody that got me torn 693 00:29:24,964 --> 00:29:26,230 like really got me torn 694 00:29:26,298 --> 00:29:30,200 between you and them and us getting ma-- 695 00:29:30,269 --> 00:29:32,936 - If you take the ring off. 696 00:29:33,005 --> 00:29:37,841 Hey, you wanna take off a ring y'all let me take off this. 697 00:29:37,910 --> 00:29:40,177 That's it. That's it. 698 00:29:40,246 --> 00:29:42,045 You ain't got to worry about no wedding. 699 00:29:42,114 --> 00:29:43,814 Everything could be canceled y'all. 700 00:29:43,883 --> 00:29:46,216 I could get a refund back for everything that I done spent. 701 00:29:46,285 --> 00:29:48,285 - This doesn't even make sense what you're doing. 702 00:29:48,354 --> 00:29:50,754 - Now, I'm trying to tell you if you just listen to me. 703 00:29:50,823 --> 00:29:52,890 - I don't--I don't--I don't even wanna listen. 704 00:29:52,958 --> 00:29:53,991 I don't even wanna listen. 705 00:29:54,059 --> 00:29:55,392 - Just listen to me. 706 00:29:55,461 --> 00:29:57,427 - This people sitting here-- - Hold on a second. 707 00:29:57,496 --> 00:30:00,497 - Hold on. Let's take a quick time-out, gentlemen. 708 00:30:00,566 --> 00:30:03,500 This is a very emotional, difficult discussion 709 00:30:03,569 --> 00:30:06,069 to be having. Clearly, you're both upset. 710 00:30:06,138 --> 00:30:08,639 Aaron, would you please just let Paris 711 00:30:08,707 --> 00:30:10,507 tell his side of the story and try your best 712 00:30:10,576 --> 00:30:12,409 even if you disagree with things that he says. 713 00:30:12,478 --> 00:30:14,178 - You guys like to eat for [bleep] lunch, 714 00:30:14,246 --> 00:30:16,547 then go ahead. Be my guest. 715 00:30:16,615 --> 00:30:18,982 - So for the past sort of past nine months 716 00:30:19,051 --> 00:30:25,222 I've been really contemplating on if Aaron is the guy for me. 717 00:30:25,291 --> 00:30:27,224 I've been doing my pageants and my shows, 718 00:30:27,293 --> 00:30:28,492 and when I go out of town, 719 00:30:28,561 --> 00:30:30,694 I don't know what is Aaron doing? 720 00:30:30,763 --> 00:30:32,729 And so I created this profile when I seen him 721 00:30:32,798 --> 00:30:35,632 when we broked up, and he bit the bait. 722 00:30:35,701 --> 00:30:36,967 - I was single. 723 00:30:37,036 --> 00:30:39,169 - We were single, but we were still having sex, right? 724 00:30:39,238 --> 00:30:42,840 - I was single. It was months before we got back together. 725 00:30:42,908 --> 00:30:46,844 - He--look, you can't necessarily blame him 726 00:30:46,912 --> 00:30:48,612 for talking to someone else 727 00:30:48,681 --> 00:30:52,583 when you guys were not in a committed relationship. 728 00:30:52,651 --> 00:30:54,251 - But when we got back together 729 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,354 Aaron was still texting Treyvon. 730 00:30:57,423 --> 00:30:58,522 - Right. Which he told us. 731 00:30:58,591 --> 00:31:00,991 - Was you or was you not texting Treyvon? 732 00:31:01,060 --> 00:31:02,759 - No, he told us that. He told us the whole time. 733 00:31:02,828 --> 00:31:05,863 - Yes, I did, and Treyvon was you. 734 00:31:05,931 --> 00:31:10,167 - Listen, Paris, no one in this situation is right. 735 00:31:10,236 --> 00:31:12,903 You're not right. Aaron's not right. 736 00:31:12,972 --> 00:31:17,608 Were you trying to create an emotional connection with Aaron 737 00:31:17,676 --> 00:31:20,444 or were you just try to trap him this whole time? 738 00:31:20,512 --> 00:31:22,312 - I wanted Treyvon to come in place to know 739 00:31:22,381 --> 00:31:24,681 what is Aaron doing when I'm traveling to Atlanta, 740 00:31:24,750 --> 00:31:26,550 when I'm traveling to Jackson, Mississippi, 741 00:31:26,619 --> 00:31:28,485 and performing Aaron can't go. 742 00:31:28,554 --> 00:31:32,756 I want to know if Aaron if he won't go out and seek others. 743 00:31:32,825 --> 00:31:37,828 I just want to know. I'm doing--I just need... 744 00:31:37,897 --> 00:31:39,463 - If you wanted to know what we're about 745 00:31:39,531 --> 00:31:41,064 doing get you a nanny cam. 746 00:31:41,133 --> 00:31:44,101 - I really honestly wanted to know if he liked this person 747 00:31:44,169 --> 00:31:47,537 before I could know my security in my relationship. 748 00:31:47,606 --> 00:31:50,974 So I have been catfishing him. 749 00:31:51,043 --> 00:31:54,578 My best friend had been joining me on to--to help me. 750 00:31:54,647 --> 00:31:56,580 - Is that the person that Aaron 751 00:31:56,649 --> 00:31:59,283 was talking to on the phone as Treyvon? 752 00:31:59,351 --> 00:32:00,717 - Yeah, it wasn't his voice. 753 00:32:00,786 --> 00:32:03,954 - It was my friend Rico, Cedric, 754 00:32:04,023 --> 00:32:05,389 to make sure that you're doing 755 00:32:05,457 --> 00:32:07,024 what you're supposed to be doing. 756 00:32:07,092 --> 00:32:09,660 When I'm going out of town and I can't text you anymore 757 00:32:09,728 --> 00:32:13,196 or whatever, I will have Rico. I will have homey text. 758 00:32:13,265 --> 00:32:14,431 - You just said he won't be getting 759 00:32:14,500 --> 00:32:16,099 no more chicken wings here. 760 00:32:16,168 --> 00:32:20,938 - Look, if Aaron wanted to be sleeping with somebody else 761 00:32:21,006 --> 00:32:22,973 he would have been doing that, but he wasn't. 762 00:32:23,042 --> 00:32:26,777 He was texting with a guy, because he felt that there was 763 00:32:26,845 --> 00:32:29,846 a really strong, emotional connection. 764 00:32:29,915 --> 00:32:34,918 And yes, that still feels bad, but that other guy was you. 765 00:32:34,987 --> 00:32:37,054 And you may not have been able to give him 766 00:32:37,122 --> 00:32:39,323 the emotional connection he was getting from Treyvon 767 00:32:39,391 --> 00:32:41,792 because you were guarding yourself 768 00:32:41,860 --> 00:32:43,493 because you knew you were the one 769 00:32:43,562 --> 00:32:45,128 he was cheating on you with. 770 00:32:45,197 --> 00:32:48,498 If Treyvon had disappeared when you and Aaron got back together 771 00:32:48,567 --> 00:32:50,867 and you had put all that energy 772 00:32:50,936 --> 00:32:53,971 into being both Paris and Treyvon emotional 773 00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:58,675 in one perfect package, things might just be perfect. 774 00:32:58,744 --> 00:33:01,011 So I agree. I'm not excusing 775 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,748 that Aaron should have stopped talking to Treyvon, 776 00:33:04,817 --> 00:33:08,118 but you played a very large part in both creating 777 00:33:08,187 --> 00:33:11,755 and continuing this problem. 778 00:33:11,824 --> 00:33:15,025 - I'm sorry. I'm sorry; I can't do this. 779 00:33:17,896 --> 00:33:19,796 - You played a very large part in both creating 780 00:33:19,865 --> 00:33:22,499 and continuing this problem. 781 00:33:22,568 --> 00:33:25,736 - I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I can't do this. 782 00:33:28,507 --> 00:33:30,040 - Um... 783 00:33:30,109 --> 00:33:31,908 - Maybe give him a minute. 784 00:33:31,977 --> 00:33:36,646 Paris I know this is hard, but please come back. 785 00:33:36,715 --> 00:33:39,483 I think that yelling at each other 786 00:33:39,551 --> 00:33:40,851 even though that was inevitable 787 00:33:40,919 --> 00:33:45,122 is not going to get us anywhere going forward. 788 00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:47,824 So let's try to come together. 789 00:33:53,632 --> 00:33:58,535 - I'm sorry. 790 00:33:58,604 --> 00:34:01,571 - Okay, guys. This has definitely been a lot. 791 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,573 I would love for us to talk one-on-one 792 00:34:03,642 --> 00:34:07,811 and then come back maybe a little bit more chill. 793 00:34:11,116 --> 00:34:14,518 So Paris you stay here. We'll talk to you for a minute. 794 00:34:14,586 --> 00:34:16,086 Aaron, we'll just put you off in 795 00:34:16,155 --> 00:34:17,454 like a waiting room for a few 796 00:34:17,523 --> 00:34:22,492 and then we'll bring you back to us. 797 00:34:22,561 --> 00:34:26,430 - Hi. We didn't even get to be introduced. 798 00:34:26,498 --> 00:34:31,635 I'm Kamie. This is Nev. This is a lot. 799 00:34:31,703 --> 00:34:37,040 Like, I do feel embarrassed and I do feel ashamed, 800 00:34:37,109 --> 00:34:38,575 but nobody knows 801 00:34:38,644 --> 00:34:40,477 what I go through in my shoes in my relationship. 802 00:34:40,546 --> 00:34:42,612 Every relationship is not the same. 803 00:34:42,681 --> 00:34:45,715 And right now I'm just going through a lot of emotions. 804 00:34:45,784 --> 00:34:48,785 - You said that during the time when you guys were not together 805 00:34:48,854 --> 00:34:53,190 you were still talking and hooking up as normal? 806 00:34:53,258 --> 00:34:54,424 - Probably like once or twice, 807 00:34:54,493 --> 00:34:57,027 but not like on an everyday basis. 808 00:34:57,096 --> 00:34:59,563 And so when we had this split up, 809 00:34:59,631 --> 00:35:01,832 I wasn't like talking to anybody. 810 00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:05,869 Like, I was talking to him, and when I seen him on the app, 811 00:35:05,938 --> 00:35:07,838 I felt broken. 812 00:35:07,906 --> 00:35:11,208 - Was Aaron the only person you were talking to as Treyvon? 813 00:35:11,276 --> 00:35:12,476 - Yes. 814 00:35:12,544 --> 00:35:14,478 - Okay, so this is a lot of mess, 815 00:35:14,546 --> 00:35:16,546 and it's not just your doing. 816 00:35:16,615 --> 00:35:20,083 So like I said, no one is right in this situation. 817 00:35:20,152 --> 00:35:21,651 You're not right for creating it 818 00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:23,687 and he's not right for following through with it. 819 00:35:23,755 --> 00:35:27,424 - I'm sorry. I really am sorry and I'm sorry 820 00:35:27,493 --> 00:35:30,260 because I just know that I love Aaron 821 00:35:30,329 --> 00:35:33,063 and I would do anything for Aaron. 822 00:35:33,132 --> 00:35:34,464 - So, where are you now? 823 00:35:34,533 --> 00:35:36,032 I mean, obviously, you've been confused. 824 00:35:36,101 --> 00:35:37,400 - He told me to take it off. 825 00:35:37,469 --> 00:35:39,836 - Well, okay, but we all say and do things 826 00:35:39,905 --> 00:35:42,939 in the heat of the moment that we don't really mean. 827 00:35:43,008 --> 00:35:47,277 Do you feel like your best version of what happens 828 00:35:47,346 --> 00:35:49,579 is that you guys can sort of work this out 829 00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:51,448 and keep it going and stay together? 830 00:35:51,517 --> 00:35:52,983 - Do you wanna stay together? 831 00:35:53,051 --> 00:35:57,954 - I would honestly love for us to be together. 832 00:35:58,023 --> 00:36:02,025 Because I did all of this, I don't know how he would feel, 833 00:36:02,094 --> 00:36:07,197 and I feel like I would have to like own up to my madness 834 00:36:07,266 --> 00:36:08,832 in order for us to change, 835 00:36:08,901 --> 00:36:11,334 and we have to trust each other a little bit more. 836 00:36:11,403 --> 00:36:12,536 - I think that that would be 837 00:36:12,604 --> 00:36:14,571 the smart and mature thing to do, 838 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,107 because even though both of you are in the wrong, 839 00:36:17,176 --> 00:36:18,542 this never would've happened 840 00:36:18,610 --> 00:36:20,610 if you hadn't made the profile to begin with. 841 00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:22,345 - This is the perfect moment. 842 00:36:22,414 --> 00:36:24,748 Your walls are down, your emotions are raw, 843 00:36:24,816 --> 00:36:26,783 and there never will be a better moment 844 00:36:26,852 --> 00:36:29,953 to just open up to each other and say what you need to say, 845 00:36:30,022 --> 00:36:33,023 - Okay. - Can we get Aaron back in? 846 00:36:36,461 --> 00:36:38,728 - All right, hello again, everyone. 847 00:36:38,797 --> 00:36:41,631 - Hello. - You guys are hurt and upset, 848 00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:44,334 but Paris, maybe we should just start with you 849 00:36:44,403 --> 00:36:45,802 because you had a lot to say 850 00:36:45,871 --> 00:36:48,271 that would be good for Aaron to hear. 851 00:36:53,412 --> 00:36:56,880 - When we did have the split up, 852 00:36:56,949 --> 00:37:01,318 I was missing you, and I was loving you. 853 00:37:03,622 --> 00:37:07,891 I really see that I was coming from not a good place 854 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,361 and I had used this character of Treyvon 855 00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:14,598 to see if you are doing anything sexually, 856 00:37:14,666 --> 00:37:17,500 if you would have sex with Treyvon. 857 00:37:17,569 --> 00:37:20,370 And so I do apologize to you. 858 00:37:20,439 --> 00:37:21,905 I have some insecurities with myself 859 00:37:21,974 --> 00:37:24,374 that I need to work out and I don't believe no man 860 00:37:24,443 --> 00:37:27,644 no woman can fix that but myself. 861 00:37:27,713 --> 00:37:29,613 And I'm telling you the truth right now. 862 00:37:29,681 --> 00:37:32,916 Honestly, you deserve that much. 863 00:37:32,985 --> 00:37:34,584 You deserve that. 864 00:37:34,653 --> 00:37:39,289 And regardless of what happened after this, I'm sorry. 865 00:37:39,358 --> 00:37:42,726 I am. 866 00:37:42,794 --> 00:37:45,762 - Yeah. 867 00:37:47,966 --> 00:37:53,637 So I feel--I feel guilty for still talking to him 868 00:37:53,705 --> 00:37:57,641 and now having gotten myself to this point, 869 00:37:57,709 --> 00:38:01,678 I hurt you too. I apologize. 870 00:38:01,747 --> 00:38:05,782 I would never do anything to hurt you intentionally, 871 00:38:05,851 --> 00:38:10,587 but the thing with me talking to him as Treyvon was, 872 00:38:10,656 --> 00:38:12,255 he listens to me more, 873 00:38:12,324 --> 00:38:15,659 more in tune with what I like and what I wanna do, 874 00:38:15,727 --> 00:38:18,361 and I'm not just concerned about you, 875 00:38:18,430 --> 00:38:20,630 this, you, this, you, this. 876 00:38:20,699 --> 00:38:22,766 If you are going to be in a relationship with someone, 877 00:38:22,834 --> 00:38:25,402 you have to find balance between that, 878 00:38:25,470 --> 00:38:28,405 and I'm not getting the balance. 879 00:38:28,473 --> 00:38:31,341 - Maybe I put too much into my illusion. 880 00:38:31,410 --> 00:38:34,110 Treyvon was trying to find out more. 881 00:38:34,179 --> 00:38:37,180 You know, I put so much energy and time into that, 882 00:38:37,249 --> 00:38:39,149 I neglect the time for Aaron 883 00:38:39,217 --> 00:38:40,950 and I could hang out together. 884 00:38:41,019 --> 00:38:43,386 And maybe right now this is a good time, 885 00:38:43,455 --> 00:38:44,587 It's not always about me. 886 00:38:44,656 --> 00:38:47,457 It's about us. Sometimes it's about you. 887 00:38:47,526 --> 00:38:50,627 I understand right now it's very rocky, 888 00:38:50,696 --> 00:38:55,131 but I would love to move forward with you. 889 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,735 Is that something that you're willing to do with me? 890 00:39:04,276 --> 00:39:07,977 - Maybe if we need like a few days of separation 891 00:39:08,046 --> 00:39:11,348 or something like that till we get to understand it, 892 00:39:11,416 --> 00:39:15,752 but I do wanna be together. 893 00:39:15,821 --> 00:39:19,122 I do feel like there is a reason for us 894 00:39:19,191 --> 00:39:24,728 to stay together and let things work out for the better. 895 00:39:24,796 --> 00:39:27,430 I'm about moving forward, always have been. 896 00:39:27,499 --> 00:39:30,400 [light music] 897 00:39:30,469 --> 00:39:36,673 ♪ ♪ 898 00:39:36,742 --> 00:39:41,578 - You both have them on. Look at that. 899 00:39:41,646 --> 00:39:44,514 - That's amazing; even though we had no idea 900 00:39:44,583 --> 00:39:47,450 exactly how this was gonna go or how it was gonna play out, 901 00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:49,519 your fiancé is also the guy 902 00:39:49,588 --> 00:39:51,154 that you're having an affair with emotionally, 903 00:39:51,223 --> 00:39:52,989 because you feel like you and your fiancé 904 00:39:53,058 --> 00:39:55,125 aren't as close as you'd like to be. 905 00:39:55,193 --> 00:39:57,260 And if it's him, that means that you could be 906 00:39:57,329 --> 00:40:00,163 that close with your fiancé and this could actually end up 907 00:40:00,232 --> 00:40:02,098 kind of being the best of both worlds. 908 00:40:02,167 --> 00:40:03,533 - Yes. 909 00:40:03,602 --> 00:40:07,337 - Paris, thank you for opening up to us, telling your truth, 910 00:40:07,406 --> 00:40:10,073 admitting things that I know were not easy for you to admit, 911 00:40:10,142 --> 00:40:13,109 and hopefully helping repair this relationship 912 00:40:13,178 --> 00:40:15,712 and sending it in the right direction. 913 00:40:15,781 --> 00:40:18,415 Goodbye until we speak again soon. 914 00:40:18,483 --> 00:40:20,750 - Bye, Paris - Bye-eye. 915 00:40:20,819 --> 00:40:23,853 - Hakeem Davenport. Treyvon. 916 00:40:23,922 --> 00:40:25,288 [laughter] 917 00:40:25,357 --> 00:40:27,056 - Thank you so much. 918 00:40:27,125 --> 00:40:28,691 - Bye, Aaron. - Bye, guys. Thanks. 919 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,860 - Bye, Aaron. - Bye. 920 00:40:30,929 --> 00:40:34,764 - ♪ So bring me home to happiness ♪ 921 00:40:34,833 --> 00:40:38,802 ♪ Go ahead and call me out ♪ 922 00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:40,637 ♪ I'm on the edge ♪ 923 00:40:40,705 --> 00:40:42,572 ♪ And I can't look down ♪ 924 00:40:42,641 --> 00:40:44,374 ♪ You are the one ♪ 925 00:40:44,443 --> 00:40:46,142 ♪ You know me best ♪ 926 00:40:46,211 --> 00:40:50,880 ♪ So bring me home to happiness ♪ 927 00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:55,485 - Alexis and James have been talking for five years. 928 00:40:55,554 --> 00:40:56,853 - Are you in love with him? 929 00:40:56,922 --> 00:40:58,588 - I want to spend the rest of my life with him. 930 00:40:58,657 --> 00:41:02,425 - Hello. You left a comment on James' page. 931 00:41:02,494 --> 00:41:06,362 Yeah. Cool, and you guys are friends? 932 00:41:06,431 --> 00:41:09,165 - This whole time he's been sending Michelle gifts. 933 00:41:09,234 --> 00:41:10,500 - I'm--I'm hurt. 934 00:41:10,569 --> 00:41:12,134 [computer chimes] both: Oh.