amed Treyvon
who he met on a hookup app.
- I felt like I had found that other half of me.
It was amazing, but I'm engaged right now.
- Oh, my goodness.
- Let's check out his fiancé's page.
- They seem pretty happy.
- Yeah. Now, I feel bad.
- I just need to know who this is.
- If Aaron wants the truth,
he's gonna have to start telling the truth.
- [gasps] It's a trap.
[dramatic musical sting]
- Okay, crew is rolling.
- Rolling. - Hey.
- Hey, what's up, Kamie?
- Hello. - We're allowed to hug?
- Yeah, we're vaccinated.
- I'm so glad to be vaccinated.
- It is--it is nice.
Before we start, Cleo wants to say hi.
- Hi. - Hey.
- Cleo. Cleo, you look fabulous.
What is the good news?
- Shut up.
Aww. Oh, my God. Really?
- She's been tired more than a few days.
- Yes. - Aww. Oh, my God.
Wait, what are we having?
Oh, my God. - Yeah.
- Oh, you guys, stop, because it's too early.
You know, I have makeup on. I'ma cry. I'm sweating now.
- It's coming September 2021.
- Thank you, Cleo. That news made my entire week.
- All right, we gotta go. I love you guys.
- Bye.
- I cannot believe you didn't tell me.
- I didn't tell anyone.
- This is so exciting
'cause I wasn't there when you announced Beau.
Beau I was already, like, cooking up.
- Yeah, that's right.
- This is my first Schulman baby.
- This is your first shot at a godmother's spot.
- Oh, I'm taking it fully.
1,000%. That's my job. This is so great.
- Come on. - Oh, my God.
Ah, I love babies. They smell so good.
- Another set of Schulman brothers on the way.
- I'm so happy.
- All right, new email just came in.
"I'm 30 from Dallas, Texas, and I'm reaching out to you guys,
because I am in a hairy pickle,"
which are two words that I would normally...
- The image that I have in my head...
- Really want to put together.
- I would like to not imagine that. Thank you.
- "About nine months ago, I met Treyvon on a hookup app.
"I was just out of a breakup
"and it wasn't looking for anything serious,
but immediately we hit it off with mad vibes. "
- ♪ If you wanna love ♪
♪ If you wanna live ♪
- "After a couple of days of chatting,
"I was ready to meet but Trey wasn't comfortable
"meeting in person because of COVID.
"So we just kept chatting, and he surprised me.
"I'd never met anyone who understands me
"as if we're split from the same body.
I'm head over heels for this guy with mad feelings."
♪ ♪
- It's mad vibes, mad feelings, mad crazy.
- I like this guy's language. "I put forth many efforts
"to talk on the phone, videochat, and meet up,
"but he always has an excuse and it never happens.
"I was thrilled when he finally did ask me to meet up,
"but that resulted in getting stood up,
"and it did make me start to question Treyvon.
"But then something happened in my life
that made me question my future with Treyvon altogether."
He's not going to tell us what it was?
- Right. I'm like, "What is it?"
- God. Okay.
- "But despite that, couldn't stop talking to him.
"I'm in a really bad situation right now,
"and I don't know what to do.
"I've been keeping a secret from Treyvon,
"and I'm nervous to reveal it.
"You're my only hope at happiness.
Thanks, Aaron."
Wow, this is a very dramatic email.
- What is the secret?
- Let's shoot him a text.
We just read your email
and are mad excited to help.
- Aaron, what is the secret?
[computer chimes] - Oh.
both: Hey.
- Hey. - How are you? How's Dallas?
- Oh, wow. Dallas.
It's something new and exciting and different every day.
I can tell you that.
- Have you always lived in Dallas?
- No, I'm actually from Mississippi,
and I moved out here to Dallas about five years ago
following an event and sales coordinator job.
- How's that going? - Event.
Sales aren't as great as before due to COVID.
- Yeah, there hasn't been a lot of that lately.
- Yeah. - So okay.
So we just read your email. I don't know where to start.
- So about nine months ago,
I met Treyvon on a hookup site.
I had just recently got out of a relationship,
so I wasn't really looking for anything serious.
Just kind of like sow my royal oats as they say.
Right. See, she gets it.
So anyway, I'm there, and I'm just looking,
but I met Treyvon, and I actually liked this guy.
I felt like there was a connection,
and we really just hit it off.
We really vibed.
I love ancient Greek mythology,
and I don't know if you guys ever heard
there was a thing that humans used to have two heads,
one body, they shared a heart.
But Zeus sent down a thunderbolt,
split everyone in half, and they kind of spent
their life looking for their other half.
I felt like I had found that other half of me
as someone that understood what I wanted.
It was amazing.
- And you guys both live near each other in Dallas, right?
- Yeah, he's in Dallas, but we made several attempts
to meet up, and everything got shot down.
So after so many disappointments with that,
I resumed talking to my ex.
- We got back together, and then he proposed to me.
- Wow. - So are you engaged right now?
- I'm engaged right now,
but I didn't stop talking to Treyvon.
- You have a ring? - I have a ring.
Yeah, and I'm torn between two people,
and I don't wanna miss my opportunity at being happy
with someone I feel like understands me
and knows me rather than settling for just what I have.
- Well, Aaron, there are probably women in the world
who if I met I would fall in love with,
but I made a [bleep] choice to be with my wife.
- That part.
- So if you're not ready to make that commitment--
- Well, we're not married yet. We're engaged.
- Well, okay, that's true. - So I do have that time.
- Look, one of them gotta go.
- At the end of the year one does
have to go, and that's why I needed your help to find out.
am I making the right choice?
- So you and your fiancé, do you guys live together now?
- Yes.
- So where is he? - Work.
- So we're helping you be sneaky right now.
Now you've got us caught up in this [bleep].
- So wait. So tell us about Treyvon. What's his deal?
- So he lives in Dallas. He's a very attractive guy.
28 29. Works at a convenience store.
- Do you know what convenience store it is?
- No, I have been in a couple, like, you know,
looking around trying to see their different shifts.
- Maybe he was in one of those stores,
but you just didn't know what he looked like.
- See, now, you're--you're trying to convince me
that he's not the person that's in that picture.
- First of all, you called us, all right?
I don't know if you know what the show is called.
It's called "Catfish."
This is not where people come to meet the love of their life.
This is where they come to find out they're being lied to.
- Not all the time.
- See, she's on my side. - I don't know what to think.
Who messaged who first?
- That was me.
- Are you talking on the phone, or are you texting mostly?
- We started off messages, and I felt comfortable enough
to give him my personal number.
- For texting? - Yeah.
- Have you ever talked on the phone?
- No, we haven't talked on the phone.
- How have you never talked on the phone?
- I got back with my ex,
so I wasn't thinking about the calls.
- Can't make any calls.
- Exactly. You can't really make them,
and then if you have to make them,
you gotta make them when you're at work or something like that.
- Mm.
- Wow. - Your conversations
with Treyvon, have they ever gotten heated?
- Oh, yeah, we-- those were--
those were the beginning conversations,
which for me at the time of not looking for something serious,
I was more interested in the hot, spicy conversation,
and it went in a different route.
- So what's the excuse? Why can't he meet up?
- In the beginning, it started off with the COVID,
and then it came to be a lot about work.
He'll make plans like, "Oh, let's meet up tonight
once you get off," and then I get off work,
and then I don't get a message back.
And then the next day I hear, "Oh, I got really tired.
I took a nap." I feel like
he's in a relationship possibly hisself.
I don't necessarily think he's a catfish.
I just think he has to do the same things I have to do.
- An entanglement.
- Yeah, Will and Jada entanglement.
- What about social media? Does he have accounts?
Does he post pictures?
- I asked for his social media, and I never got it.
- Is his dating profile still up?
- I had to delete it, Kamie.
- 'Cause you're engaged.
- Yeah. - You're right.
- Let's see this guy.
I wanna see what Treyvon looks like.
Wow, okay. There he is. - Ohh.
- See, he is cute, right? - He is cute.
- Nice, handsome face. - Mm-hmm.
- So he texted these to you?
- Yeah. - So here's my question.
If we connect with Treyvon and it is him
and he does live in Dallas
and he reveals to you that he was sort of
in a relationship; that's over now,
and he wants to be with you,
are you going to break things off with your fiancé?
What's your plan?
- My plan is to meet up with him
and fill it out and see where it goes,
but the way I feel about him,
I feel like I'm probably gonna end the engagement
and move forward with Treyvon.
- But don't you think that you should do that anyway?
Maybe this is all a sign that your fiancé is not the one
that you're supposed to have that with.
- I can make that decision afterwards.
I want a little more information.
- Okay.
- Part of me feels like at some point
while we're making this episode,
you should talk to your fiancé.
I just feel like everyone should know the truth.
- Everyone does deserve to know the truth,
but let's play it by ear.
- Okay. All right.
So look, you just sent us an email with all the info,
and we'll start doing some research
and hopefully find something.
- Okay. - All right, later, Aaron.
- Bye.
- I don't see things ending well for Aaron.
The crazy thing is, if we meet Treyvon, and he is real,
and he finds out that Aaron has been lying to him,
Treyvon may not even wanna be with Aaron.
There's really no way this works out for Aaron.
- No, he's gonna have to get a new apartment.
- He's gonna have to leave Texas.
- [laughs]
[bleep] is about to get ugly.
- We're back. - It's a [bleep] situation.
- It is a hairy pickle for sure.
We got Aaron who's been talking to a guy in Treyvon
who we met on a hookup app.
When they started talking, Aaron was single having
just recently broken up with his boyfriend.
Talked for a few months. Things were getting
hot and heavy. They were excited to meet up,
but Treyvon kept coming up with excuses,
and then Aaron and his ex got back together.
The ex proposed, and Aaron said yes, so they were now engaged,
but Aaron's still talking to Treyvon and feels a connection
to Treyvon that's stronger and more romantic
than he feels for his fiancé whom he lives with.
- I am sure that Aaron's fiancé is lovely,
but that engagement needs to end.
I don't even necessarily want Aaron with Treyvon.
I just need him to be single.
- Yeah. All right. So let's see what we got here.
Here's an email from Aaron. All right.
"Hey, Nev and Kamie, thanks for talking with me today.
"Here's the info I have on Treyvon.
"His last name is Allen, and he lives in Dallas, Texas.
"Here's his phone number. Doesn't have any social media,
"but I've attached the pictures he sent me.
Here's hoping, Aaron."
All right, let's--I wanna start with the pictures.
So here's the first one.
Okay, nothing there.
Nothing.
- Mm-hmm.
Nothing.
- Augh.
All right, we got one more picture.
Dang.
All right, so nothing comes back with the pictures. Bummer.
- I wanna see Aaron's Facebook,
'cause I just feel like we have to
do all the things.
- So here's Aaron.
- Aaron. Where's his boo? - Oh, look.
Right here. He's engaged. Hakeem Davenport.
- March 26. "I just have too much fun with him"
with a heart, and then his fiancé
Hakeem wrote, "Love you my bad bunny."
- Okay, let's check out his fiancé's page. Here he is.
Wow.
- He got Aaron's name put on his manicure?
I have not put a boy's name on my manicure in years.
- You've done that? - Yeah, in, like, high school.
- Oh, my God.
- That's how you know it's real,
'cause that gotta last, like, three weeks.
- I mean, they seem pretty happy.
- I mean, yeah.
Now I feel bad. Why did we come on his page?
- That's what I said. - Whose idea was this?
- I was already feeling bad.
But now I have to actually see the fiancé
and like how cute they are together.
Yeah. What else do we have?
Let's check the old phone number.
What? Caller name Paris [bleep].
- But it also says Bandwidth.com.
- I know, and that's a landline in Texas 38.
Wow, very interesting.
- Is Paris a guy? Is Paris not? - Maybe.
Whoa, ten previous addresses? Buffalo, Mount Vernon.
- He's been getting around.
- Why is it coming up as a landline?
- I don't think we've ever seen that where it's come up
as a text app number
and also has a name attached to it.
- That is so weird. All right, we gotta look this up.
Let's do a little Facebook search of Paris [bleep].
Let's see. Here's a Buffalo.
That was one of the cities that the phone number linked to.
And the fact that there's a guy named Paris in Buffalo
and the fact that he's in Buffalo would explain
why he can't meet up.
- And look, he's in a relationship with Charlene,
but maybe he's bi.
- So they might-- - He would have a secret.
They both have a secret.
- Well, and Aaron would be right
that may be the reason he's having a hard time
connecting with Treyvon is because he's in a relationship.
- Mm-hmm.
- We have a lead potentially with Paris, and we connected it
to an account for this guy who says he lives in Buffalo
but potentially could be who we're looking for.
- Mm-hmm. The fact that the phone search came back saying
that whoever Paris is also had a Buffalo address,
I just feel like it's, like--
- Right. It is certainly
looking like this--this guy is a suspect.
- Or it is the real Treyvon Allen in the pictures.
We just can't find him, and he's shy
and doesn't wanna meet up yet.
- Right. - Could also be the case.
- Or he's in a relationship.
It's really him, but he's just got something else going on...
- Right.
- Like Aaron has something else going on.
- Speaking of which, I don't feel like Aaron
is giving Hakeem his fiancé
a real picture of what's actually been going on,
because he's over here playing house
while he's got, like, this whole other life
that he's living somewhere else.
I don't think that his fiancé is prepared for any of this.
Like, this is gonna be a complete ambush.
- Look, the reality here is, if Aaron wants the truth,
he's gonna have to start telling the truth.
- Let's get back in touch with Aaron
and see if we can't get to the bottom of this.
So let me text Aaron a Zoom link.
- I don't know why I have a feeling that when Aaron
hears the phone number comes back to that guy
Paris [bleep] that we found, he's gonna know who it is.
I just feel like there's a connection.
[computer chimes]
- Hey, guys. - Hey, what's up, man?
What have you been up to these last few hours?
- Oh, man, just ripping the seat and wondering.
- Well...
- We did some research. We have some information.
We're not sure really what it means, but hopefully,
you can actually help make some sense out of it.
- Okay. - So I'm gonna share my screen
and show you kind of what we did.
So we ran all the pictures, and none of them
came back with any results.
Now, here's where it gets interesting.
We ran the phone number.
- Okay.
- And the phone number came back
to someone named Paris [bleep].
Now, does that name mean anything to you?
- Hell freaking yeah. - I told you.
I told you it would. Okay, tell, tell us, tell us,
tell us, tell us, tell us, tell us, tell us.
- That's my fiancé.
- What? - Yeah.
- Shut up. Wait.
I thought your fiancé's name was Hakeem.
- That's his stage name.
- His stage name is Hakeem Davenport.
His real name is Paris [bleep]
- Oh, my God. Wait a second. So--
- Aaron.
- Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
- That's your fiancé's actual name?
- Yeah.
- Well, then I guess Treyvon is your fiancé,
because the phone number comes back to that name.
Oh, my goodness.
- The pickle is no longer hairy.
The pickle is on fire.
- Why does he go by Hakeem Davenport?
- Davenport is a drag last name - Oh, it is? Okay.
- Wow.
- What's going through your mind?
- I honestly don't understand if that is him,
why would you do that instead of just coming to me?
And if you wanted to get on a--a more intimate side
of getting to know me and knowing what I like
and what it is that I want and wanna be,
just come to me and give me the opportunity to talk to you.
Why did you have to be someone else
and then keep up a charade
and have me wondering am I torn between two people
or am I just torn between a crazy-ass person, you know?
- Now, wait a second. I'm obviously with you all
in assuming that it is your fiancé,
but at the same time,
the phone search indicated the number is a text app,
and I don't think we've ever seen a text app number
come back with a name attached. - Right.
- Could someone have done that on purpose?
Like, is there someone who could potentially
be messing with you?
- Right. Because if I'm your fiancé
and if I see now that you're still trying
to carry on a relationship with me
as Treyvon I'm outing you right there.
- If that is him, why would you keep it going on?
- And it is weird that when he registered
that text app number he put his real name.
- Right. Could someone be trying to make it seem
like they're your fiancé talking to you
to try to set you up in some kind of way?
- This is just [bleep] crazy, man.
This is, like, wow.
- I am now concerned, because
what time does Paris get off of work?
- He's got a couple hours.
- When Paris gets home tonight, it's gonna be weird.
And rather than you guys potentially or--or likely
getting into it and it becoming an issue
or a fight or an argument or whatever,
maybe we should text him right now and just see what he says.
- Well, it's the only way we're gonna find out I guess.
I've figured out something from this point.
- So what's Paris' number? - 470 [bleep]
- All right, I'll say,
"Hey, Paris, this is Nev from 'Catfish'
"We're working on an episode now
"and would love to chat with you.
Please give me a call when you can. Thanks."
So that's sent.
- Wow, wow, wow.
- I'd like to obviously help get to the very, very bottom
of all this, but you're in a precarious situation
where it appears as though the person who's catfishing you
is the same person you share a bed with,
and there's not a lot we can do
from where we're sitting in California.
Obviously, as a show, we want to be involved and helpful,
but also as human beings,
we want you to handle your business
how you see it best fit to be here.
So when Paris gets home later if you feel like
the right thing to do is bring it up
and talk to him about it, then you should do that.
We'll make ourselves available whenever.
You know, you sort of have to play it by ear
and let us know as it unfolds.
♪ ♪
- ♪ Something wasn't right ♪
- Wow, that's a lot.
- I hate that we're not there.
Ideally, we would be with you all night until he came home
and, like, sat there with you and waited
and, you know, had the conversation,
but because of all the restrictions we can't do that
and I hate that. I wish that we could.
- Wow. - Are you gonna be okay?
- I need to go to the bar
and have a margarita or something.
- Obviously, if I hear anything or if anything goes down
I'll let you know, and then we'll just--
we'll just check in in the morning.
- Okay.
Sound like a plan to me.
- All right Aaron.
- All right, guys.
- All right, have a good night. - All right, bye.
both: Bye.
[computer chimes]
- This is weird. I mean, this is--
- I'm afraid they're gonna fight tonight.
- Well, look, either this ticking time bomb
is gonna blow up
or somehow we're gonna make it through the night,
and tomorrow all will be revealed.
- Okay, I'm getting a call from Aaron.
It's a FaceTime.
Hey, man. What's up?
He came home earlier just to leave.
and go back out to do an overnight shift at work.
- Is it common for him to do--like, come home
and then go back and do an overnight shift like this?
- Yeah. - Oh, okay.
- He didn't show any signs of, "Oh,
I got that message," or anything like that so...
- Right. Was it weird, though?
- Yeah, it's very weird.
- Wow. All right. Interesting.
I guess just try to get some rest
and we'll feel out tomorrow and see what shakes out.
- See if we can get to the bottom of it.
- Yeah. - Peace out.
- All right. Good night.
[tense music]
Morning.
- Got a little bit of an update here.
I got a phone call last night from Aaron.
Basically, Paris came back from work.
So he took some clothes and went back to work,
but there was no discussion about any of this.
- That's a little sus, 'cause we texted him,
and there's no way you would get a text like that
and come home to your fiancé and not be like,
"Oh, my God. The weirdest thing happened."
- Well, that to me
indicates that Paris clearly is involved in this.
- There's no way he's not involved.
- I guess we got a text Aaron, check in with him.
- I don't know. Do I feel bad for Aaron?
I don't know. Do I feel bad for Paris?
I don't know. Do I feel bad for Treyvon?
I don't know.
I don't know who I feel bad for.
[computer chimes] - Oh.
- Hello.
- Hey, guys, what's up? - Hey, Aaron. What's up?
You seem a little... - Somber.
- Yeah.
- Yeah. Rough night actually.
Rough night. Like I told Nev earlier,
he came home. He didn't mention the text
that he had got from me or anything like that.
So I just kind of let it ride, and then he just like,
"Yeah, I'm gonna get some clothes
and leave out, go back to work."
- The overnight shift is--is over.
- Yeah, it's over.
- So is he home in bed sleeping?
- No. - Where is he?
- I have no idea.
- What does your instinct tell you?
- My instinct is just telling me to just find out
who this is no matter
whether it's Paris or someone else.
By the end of today I just need to know who this is.
- I mean, he hasn't responded to my text.
Do you wanna try and text him and just say,
"Hey, can you chat? Can we talk?
Are you coming home?" Because maybe
he's--I don't know. I mean, yeah.
- Yeah, I texted him and said, "Hey,
where are you right now?" Let's see.
- Okay. Did he-- did he see your message? Did he respond?
- He's read that one, but he hasn't responded to it.
- What do we think the chances are that Paris
is a non-participant in this entire thing,
he has nothing to do with it?
- I think those odds are going down every moment
we don't hear back from him.
- I kind of figured like after last night it was him,
but I was like really hoping that it wasn't.
[phone dings]
- What? Did something come in? - Mm-hmm.
- You got a text?
- Yeah, but it's from Treyvon.
- Oh, no.
- Wow. - No.
I mean, is this Paris like trying to make it seem
like they're different people? Just like casually texting.
- What are you--you're casually texting back.
- What am I--what else am I gonna do?
I wanna get straight to it. Like, my next question
was about to be getting straight to it.
- Then let's [bleep] do it. [line trilling]
both: Oh. - Are you're calling Treyvon?
- Yeah.
This Treyvon?
This is Aaron.
I need to talk to you about something,
and I've been dying to meet you.
I've been trying to meet you for months.
Countless months we've been planning to meet up.
You've been blowing me off
and I need to talk to you like face-to-face.
Are you able to do a Zoom?
Since you don't--you really don't have time
for it I'll just go in and just lay it out there.
I got back in a relationship with my ex,
and we are now engaged and planning for a wedding
towards the end of the year.
But I had very strong feelings for you
or have very strong feelings for you
and what I wanted to know was if you
and I were something that was supposed to happen
or just something that was just supposed to be overlooked.
- I mean...
- Is there something you're hiding from me
or keeping from me?
No, you're giving me ultimatum after the first time
us being on the phone you're giving me ultimatums.
- Sure. Say yes.
- Say no. - Yeah, sure.
That's what I'll do.
- It's a trap.
- He just put me in an ultimatum to leave my fiancé.
- Because it's a trap.
- It's gotta be a friend. Did you recognize the voice?
- No. - Paris is with whoever
that person is and put them on the phone
and he was probably telling him just find this out.
- Right.
- I really just want to send him the link.
- Send them the link. What is your plan?
If Paris pops in here which I'm assuming he will,
what is your plan?
- If this is him, it's gonna piss me off really like worse
than what I am already feeling pissed off and angry and upset.
- Is a part of you still thinking that the Treyvon
in the pictures is gonna come in the Zoom?
- Yeah. Yeah.
If it is Paris of course I'm gonna be upset about that.
So I'm hoping that Treyvon is actually the person
in the picture or somebody else altogether, you know?
- This is Paris. It is.
[phone dings]
- So he says he's ready to talk.
- Are you ready?
- Hey, ready Freddy.
[tense music]
- So he says he's ready to talk.
- Are you ready?
- Hey, ready Freddy.
[computer chimes] - Oh.
- Hey.
- Why the [bleep] would you do
some stupid [bleep] like this for?
- Yeah, are you gagging now? Yeah.
- All you had to do was set up [bleep] in a house.
What the [bleep] is this about? Pretending to be somebody else.
We both lying in this relationship.
- I'm one person.
I introduced myself as Aaron, not as anybody else,
- Now, listen to me. You reached out to who?
- I reached to-- - To Treyvon.
Say--say his name. Who did you reach out to?
Did you ever tell me about Treyvon?
Have you ever talked to me about Treyvon?
- What the [bleep]? You are Treyvon, fool.
- I wanted to go see if you mess around
with anybody else in this relationship.
I wanna keep my eyes on you at all given times.
- Didn't I tell y'all he was crazy?
I'm up here thinking that it's somebody that got me torn
like really got me torn
between you and them and us getting ma--
- If you take the ring off.
Hey, you wanna take off a ring y'all let me take off this.
That's it. That's it.
You ain't got to worry about no wedding.
Everything could be canceled y'all.
I could get a refund back for everything that I done spent.
- This doesn't even make sense what you're doing.
- Now, I'm trying to tell you if you just listen to me.
- I don't--I don't--I don't even wanna listen.
I don't even wanna listen.
- Just listen to me.
- This people sitting here-- - Hold on a second.
- Hold on. Let's take a quick time-out, gentlemen.
This is a very emotional, difficult discussion
to be having. Clearly, you're both upset.
Aaron, would you please just let Paris
tell his side of the story and try your best
even if you disagree with things that he says.
- You guys like to eat for [bleep] lunch,
then go ahead. Be my guest.
- So for the past sort of past nine months
I've been really contemplating on if Aaron is the guy for me.
I've been doing my pageants and my shows,
and when I go out of town,
I don't know what is Aaron doing?
And so I created this profile when I seen him
when we broked up, and he bit the bait.
- I was single.
- We were single, but we were still having sex, right?
- I was single. It was months before we got back together.
- He--look, you can't necessarily blame him
for talking to someone else
when you guys were not in a committed relationship.
- But when we got back together
Aaron was still texting Treyvon.
- Right. Which he told us.
- Was you or was you not texting Treyvon?
- No, he told us that. He told us the whole time.
- Yes, I did, and Treyvon was you.
- Listen, Paris, no one in this situation is right.
You're not right. Aaron's not right.
Were you trying to create an emotional connection with Aaron
or were you just try to trap him this whole time?
- I wanted Treyvon to come in place to know
what is Aaron doing when I'm traveling to Atlanta,
when I'm traveling to Jackson, Mississippi,
and performing Aaron can't go.
I want to know if Aaron if he won't go out and seek others.
I just want to know. I'm doing--I just need...
- If you wanted to know what we're about
doing get you a nanny cam.
- I really honestly wanted to know if he liked this person
before I could know my security in my relationship.
So I have been catfishing him.
My best friend had been joining me on to--to help me.
- Is that the person that Aaron
was talking to on the phone as Treyvon?
- Yeah, it wasn't his voice.
- It was my friend Rico, Cedric,
to make sure that you're doing
what you're supposed to be doing.
When I'm going out of town and I can't text you anymore
or whatever, I will have Rico. I will have homey text.
- You just said he won't be getting
no more chicken wings here.
- Look, if Aaron wanted to be sleeping with somebody else
he would have been doing that, but he wasn't.
He was texting with a guy, because he felt that there was
a really strong, emotional connection.
And yes, that still feels bad, but that other guy was you.
And you may not have been able to give him
the emotional connection he was getting from Treyvon
because you were guarding yourself
because you knew you were the one
he was cheating on you with.
If Treyvon had disappeared when you and Aaron got back together
and you had put all that energy
into being both Paris and Treyvon emotional
in one perfect package, things might just be perfect.
So I agree. I'm not excusing
that Aaron should have stopped talking to Treyvon,
but you played a very large part in both creating
and continuing this problem.
- I'm sorry. I'm sorry; I can't do this.
- You played a very large part in both creating
and continuing this problem.
- I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I can't do this.
- Um...
- Maybe give him a minute.
Paris I know this is hard, but please come back.
I think that yelling at each other
even though that was inevitable
is not going to get us anywhere going forward.
So let's try to come together.
- I'm sorry.
- Okay, guys. This has definitely been a lot.
I would love for us to talk one-on-one
and then come back maybe a little bit more chill.
So Paris you stay here. We'll talk to you for a minute.
Aaron, we'll just put you off in
like a waiting room for a few
and then we'll bring you back to us.
- Hi. We didn't even get to be introduced.
I'm Kamie. This is Nev. This is a lot.
Like, I do feel embarrassed and I do feel ashamed,
but nobody knows
what I go through in my shoes in my relationship.
Every relationship is not the same.
And right now I'm just going through a lot of emotions.
- You said that during the time when you guys were not together
you were still talking and hooking up as normal?
- Probably like once or twice,
but not like on an everyday basis.
And so when we had this split up,
I wasn't like talking to anybody.
Like, I was talking to him, and when I seen him on the app,
I felt broken.
- Was Aaron the only person you were talking to as Treyvon?
- Yes.
- Okay, so this is a lot of mess,
and it's not just your doing.
So like I said, no one is right in this situation.
You're not right for creating it
and he's not right for following through with it.
- I'm sorry. I really am sorry and I'm sorry
because I just know that I love Aaron
and I would do anything for Aaron.
- So, where are you now?
I mean, obviously, you've been confused.
- He told me to take it off.
- Well, okay, but we all say and do things
in the heat of the moment that we don't really mean.
Do you feel like your best version of what happens
is that you guys can sort of work this out
and keep it going and stay together?
- Do you wanna stay together?
- I would honestly love for us to be together.
Because I did all of this, I don't know how he would feel,
and I feel like I would have to like own up to my madness
in order for us to change,
and we have to trust each other a little bit more.
- I think that that would be
the smart and mature thing to do,
because even though both of you are in the wrong,
this never would've happened
if you hadn't made the profile to begin with.
- This is the perfect moment.
Your walls are down, your emotions are raw,
and there never will be a better moment
to just open up to each other and say what you need to say,
- Okay. - Can we get Aaron back in?
- All right, hello again, everyone.
- Hello. - You guys are hurt and upset,
but Paris, maybe we should just start with you
because you had a lot to say
that would be good for Aaron to hear.
- When we did have the split up,
I was missing you, and I was loving you.
I really see that I was coming from not a good place
and I had used this character of Treyvon
to see if you are doing anything sexually,
if you would have sex with Treyvon.
And so I do apologize to you.
I have some insecurities with myself
that I need to work out and I don't believe no man
no woman can fix that but myself.
And I'm telling you the truth right now.
Honestly, you deserve that much.
You deserve that.
And regardless of what happened after this, I'm sorry.
I am.
- Yeah.
So I feel--I feel guilty for still talking to him
and now having gotten myself to this point,
I hurt you too. I apologize.
I would never do anything to hurt you intentionally,
but the thing with me talking to him as Treyvon was,
he listens to me more,
more in tune with what I like and what I wanna do,
and I'm not just concerned about you,
this, you, this, you, this.
If you are going to be in a relationship with someone,
you have to find balance between that,
and I'm not getting the balance.
- Maybe I put too much into my illusion.
Treyvon was trying to find out more.
You know, I put so much energy and time into that,
I neglect the time for Aaron
and I could hang out together.
And maybe right now this is a good time,
It's not always about me.
It's about us. Sometimes it's about you.
I understand right now it's very rocky,
but I would love to move forward with you.
Is that something that you're willing to do with me?
- Maybe if we need like a few days of separation
or something like that till we get to understand it,
but I do wanna be together.
I do feel like there is a reason for us
to stay together and let things work out for the better.
I'm about moving forward, always have been.
[light music]
♪ ♪
- You both have them on. Look at that.
- That's amazing; even though we had no idea
exactly how this was gonna go or how it was gonna play out,
your fiancé is also the guy
that you're having an affair with emotionally,
because you feel like you and your fiancé
aren't as close as you'd like to be.
And if it's him, that means that you could be
that close with your fiancé and this could actually end up
kind of being the best of both worlds.
- Yes.
- Paris, thank you for opening up to us, telling your truth,
admitting things that I know were not easy for you to admit,
and hopefully helping repair this relationship
and sending it in the right direction.
Goodbye until we speak again soon.
- Bye, Paris - Bye-eye.
- Hakeem Davenport. Treyvon.
[laughter]
- Thank you so much.
- Bye, Aaron. - Bye, guys. Thanks.
- Bye, Aaron. - Bye.
- ♪ So bring me home to happiness ♪
♪ Go ahead and call me out ♪
♪ I'm on the edge ♪
♪ And I can't look down ♪
♪ You are the one ♪
♪ You know me best ♪
♪ So bring me home to happiness ♪
- Alexis and James have been talking for five years.
- Are you in love with him?
- I want to spend the rest of my life with him.
- Hello. You left a comment on James' page.
Yeah. Cool, and you guys are friends?
- This whole time he's been sending Michelle gifts.
- I'm--I'm hurt.
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