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- Apryl got a message
from Daryl saying,
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"Hey, I drew a picture
from your photos."
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- The fact that somebody
would spend so much time
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making drawings of me.
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- You're his muse.
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- He does say that to me
all the time.
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- But you've never
heard his voice
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or seen him in a video.
- No.
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- I want to just start
with a search of his profile.
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- [gasps]
- Something is definitely up.
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- What the [bleep] is going on?
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- I'm really freaking out
over here.
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[computer chimes]
Oh, my goodness.
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[dramatic musical sting]
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[cheesy upbeat music]
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♪ ♪
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[computer chimes]
- What is happening here?
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- I don't know.
I just found this
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over in the corner
under that table,
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and I thought
could be a good look for me.
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- What is it supposed to be?
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- It's a chair.
I guess it's supposed
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to be for, like,
people with back pain.
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It encourages good posture.
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I'm kind of into it.
I think I'm gonna try it out.
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- You look like
you're riding passenger seat
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on Santa's sleigh.
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[both laugh]
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- Yeah, all right.
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While you enjoy
your breakfast bowl,
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I'm going to open up
the old mail app.
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- Ready.
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- Oh, an email from Apryl.
- Hmm.
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A-P-R-Y-L.
- The subject--
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"Has it been
four years of lies?"
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- Probably.
- Yeah.
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"Dear Nev and Kamie,
my name is Apryl.
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I am 22 and live in Montreal."
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This is technically our first
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Canadian episode.
- Oh, my God.
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- "I met Daryl,"
D-A-R-Y-L.
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Their names end with
the same three letters.
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Come on, that's incredible.
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- Meant to be.
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- "He lives in Ohio
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and is an incredibly
talented artist."
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- ♪ Don't you want to
know me better? ♪
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- I met Daryl four years ago
on Instagram when he sent me
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a drawing he'd done
of a selfie I'd posted.
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- ♪ Don't you want to
know me better? ♪
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♪ I just want to know... ♪
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- "We were just friends,
but this past year
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"I started to realize
I want more.
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"No one has ever approached me
the way he did
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or sent me
so many sweet messages."
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- ♪ Joyride with you ♪
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- "His drawings make me feel
appreciated and beautiful.
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"Daryl makes me feel
like a confident woman.
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He makes me feel happy."
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- ♪ I just want to
know about you ♪
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- "I had no reason
to doubt Daryl,
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"and our relationship
was growing.
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"But in the past few months,
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"some strange things
have been happening.
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"First, I got a weird DM
from Daryl's sister
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"that Daryl told me to ignore.
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Then his social media
started to deactivate"...
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♪ ♪
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"And then reappear."
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- ♪ Joyride ♪
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- "I asked him
what was going on with that,
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"and he said he needed
to disappear for a while
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but wouldn't say why."
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- He's going to jail.
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- "It all makes me nervous.
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"I don't have the best luck
with men in general,
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and I think of him
as my one shining star."
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- ♪ Joyride ♪
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- "Thank you, Apryl."
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- ♪ Joyride ♪
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- I am going to put in
my first guess
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and say that Daryl
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is in jail.
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- He's not in jail, come on.
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- Yes, you think
you don't have access
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to a pen and a paper
to make drawings in jail?
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You do, and you can
also get on Instagram.
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There's social media.
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- All right,
well, let's text her.
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Ah, it's been so long
since I texted
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an international number.
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"It's Nev from 'Catfish.'
Just read your email.
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Jump in our Zoom."
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- ♪ Apryl showers
bring May flowers ♪
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[computer chimes]
- Oh.
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- Hello.
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- Hey.
- Hi.
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- What's up?
- Look how beautiful.
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I love the tattoos.
- Yeah.
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- Thank you.
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- Are you in school, work?
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- Work almost every day.
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- What do you do?
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- I manage a dépanneur,
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so "convenience store"
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for any non-French speakers.
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- Dépann--dépanneur.
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[French accent]
Dépanneur.
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[normal voice]
My French is trash.
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[laughs]
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- So that's cool.
And so we read your email,
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but there's not a lot
of information in there.
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We want to know
the whole story,
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and kind of give us
the details.
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- So the first time Daryl
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ever made contact with me,
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it was through Instagram.
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The way he approached me
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is not how any guy
usually approaches me.
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Like, really sweet
and not so direct.
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And he had
taken it upon himself
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to draw a selfie
that I had posted.
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♪ ♪
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So kind of nice,
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kind of creepy, a little bit,
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because I had no idea
who he was.
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- Did he ever explain
how and why he found you?
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- No, in the first few years,
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honestly, it was just kind of
like a little back-and-forth.
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Like, any time that I would
post a picture that he liked,
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he would draw it and send it
to me when it was done.
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And I was obviously
really appreciative.
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But I would say
it was more in the past year
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that we kind of got
a bit closer
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and started talking more
on a daily basis.
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- How many drawings
would you say he did of you
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over the course of those
three years?
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- Around 10, 15 maybe?
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I got to a point--
I just started sending him,
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like, my favorite selfies,
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and he would
do the drawing for me.
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- You're his muse.
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- He does say that to me
all the time.
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[chuckles]
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- He's like Jack,
and you're Rose.
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- Draw me like
one of your French girls.
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Oh!
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- Have you sent him
a nude to draw?
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- I've never directly
sent him one,
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but I do have an OnlyFans
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which he
is subscribed to, so...
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- Wow! [laughs]
- Ohh!
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Did he draw that?
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- He did.
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- [gasps]
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- Wow. Has he sent
any sexy photos of him?
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- No.
- Interesting.
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Why haven't you guys
FaceTimed or something?
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- I mean, I've asked.
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It's kind of just been
brushed off,
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and I feel like
if I push too hard,
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he can just "disappear."
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Like, he has deleted
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parts of his social media
in the past,
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so it's really
kind of a touchy thing.
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- He deactivated
his social media
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a bunch of times--
what happened with that?
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- A couple weeks ago, actually,
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I went to go
search up the page,
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the page is just gone.
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- Is that profile still down?
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- No, it's back.
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He usually just tells me
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he needed a break
from social media.
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- Okay, that could be true.
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But have you guys been texting?
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- I mean, we text on Instagram.
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- But do you have
his phone number?
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- I don't.
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- Wait, so, for four years,
you've been talking
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just through
Instagram and OnlyFans.
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- Yeah.
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- So you've never
heard his voice
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or seen him in a video.
- No.
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- Interesting.
- [laughs]
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- [laughing]
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- Oh, boy.
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- Something's definitely up,
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'cause, like, in your email,
you mentioned something about,
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you got a weird DM from Daryl
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telling you to ignore
another message.
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What was that all about?
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- I had got a DM
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from somebody
that I didn't know.
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And it was just a Facebook link
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in the message,
so when I clicked on it,
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it brought me to, like,
some Facebook group.
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And I saw in their followers
that Daryl was one of them.
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♪ ♪
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When I went and confronted
Daryl about it,
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he said, "Oh, you know,
that's just my sister.
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Ignore the message."
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- So did you respond,
and have you had
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any communication
with the sister?
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- No.
- Weird.
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♪ ♪
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- Can I see a picture of Daryl?
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I'm just so curious now.
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- Yeah.
- All right, hold on.
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I'm gonna bring him up
on Instagram.
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What's his Instagram?
- It's "darylartshow."
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- Is that him?
- Yes.
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- Cool.
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This is him, right?
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- Yes.
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Fits into my type,
I guess you could say.
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- Mm-hmm.
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- What's this?
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"My dad in the paper."
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Wait a second.
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So this is his dad.
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- Allegedly.
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- This--wait, this was
just a few days ago.
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- Yeah.
- Huh.
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Is this you?
- That is me.
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- [gasps] Oh, wow.
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- [chuckling]
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Oh, boy.
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- Is that you also?
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- That is not me, actually.
- Okay.
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- Do you ever get jealous
when he draws other girls?
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- I mean, kind of...
[chuckles] Low-key.
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I'm used to being the muse,
you know, so...
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- But even his, like,
follower to following count
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looks normal.
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Like, the page looks very--
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If it is a catfish,
it's very convincing.
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I don't know what to think.
- Yeah, questions.
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- Well, what is it
about this guy?
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Because I know you have
other guys fawning after you.
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So what is it about Daryl?
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- I mean,
it's really different.
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There's not anyone
who actually cares
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about how I'm doing.
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He's just there every time
I need it, you know?
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Like, the fact that somebody
would spend so much time
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making drawings of me,
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someone that
they've never even met.
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It's just insane to me.
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You know, he always says
if I lived closer,
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I would be wifed up
already, so...
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- Wow.
- [laughs]
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- Right now are you not
looking to meet another guy
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because you think that
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something will happen
with Daryl?
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- I mean, yeah.
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That's kind of the dream
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if it can be possible,
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but kind of need to know
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so I can move on
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either with him
still in my life
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or cutting him out of it.
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- Obviously, we don't
have a phone number,
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but we have his Instagram.
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We have that picture
he posted of his dad.
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But send us whatever
information you have.
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Let us see
what we can find out.
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And hopefully
get one step closer
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to finally meeting this guy.
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- Hopefully.
- All right.
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- All right.
- Talk later, Apryl.
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- Thank you.
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- Oh, she's sweet.
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- What do you think?
Is this guy legit?
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- [sighs]
I don't know.
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- He could just be
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a [bleep]boy artist in Akron
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who just has a couple different
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sexy ladies around
who he draws pictures of...
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- Mm-hmm.
- And they send him sexy pics,
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and he's just
not looking to commit.
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- That's what I fear, yeah.
- That's kind of
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the vibe I'm getting.
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If he is legit,
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maybe there's a chance
it can work out.
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And if he's not,
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Apryl needs to know
because I don't want
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to see her get
her heart broken.
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- Exactly.
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Something tells me in my spirit
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that Apryl
is not the only one.
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- And after four years,
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she deserves
to know the truth.
294
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[upbeat music]
295
00:10:47,581 --> 00:10:49,481
[computer chimes]
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♪ ♪
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- Investigate, investigate,
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investigate, investigate.
[laughs]
299
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- All right.
So what do we got?
300
00:10:59,726 --> 00:11:03,294
Apryl has been talking
to Daryl for four years.
301
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Apryl got a message saying,
302
00:11:04,865 --> 00:11:06,931
"Hey, I drew a picture
from one of your photos."
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She, of course, was flattered
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00:11:08,268 --> 00:11:10,035
because it was
this very beautiful drawing.
305
00:11:10,103 --> 00:11:11,369
Now, in the last year,
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00:11:11,438 --> 00:11:12,737
she's been starting
to really think
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00:11:12,806 --> 00:11:14,973
that maybe there could be
something more with this guy
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00:11:15,042 --> 00:11:17,042
The problem is
he's been shady.
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He won't give her
his phone number.
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- Mm-hmm.
- So they only can communicate
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through Instagram
or, I guess, OnlyFans.
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00:11:22,582 --> 00:11:25,183
- I think he's in jail.
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Or he's a player
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and he should be in jail.
- [laughs]
315
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- I'm sticking to it
till I'm proven wrong.
316
00:11:30,023 --> 00:11:31,289
- Apryl sent us another email.
317
00:11:31,358 --> 00:11:33,658
"I've sent you
what you asked for on Daryl.
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I also included a screengrab
of the DM his sister sent me."
319
00:11:36,863 --> 00:11:38,229
- All right,
so here's his Instagram,
320
00:11:38,298 --> 00:11:40,098
which we've already seen.
- And we know his dad's name.
321
00:11:40,167 --> 00:11:41,232
- To me,
that's the craziest thing.
322
00:11:41,301 --> 00:11:43,334
I feel like
we've never had someone
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00:11:43,403 --> 00:11:45,236
we're investigating
as a catfish
324
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post a news article
identifying their dad.
325
00:11:48,575 --> 00:11:49,908
- Right.
- So we've already
326
00:11:49,976 --> 00:11:51,242
looked through his Instagram.
327
00:11:51,311 --> 00:11:53,211
But let's take a closer look
at the page.
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00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,380
What's this video?
329
00:11:55,449 --> 00:11:57,549
So that's her.
- Yeah.
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00:11:57,617 --> 00:11:59,951
- I mean, you wouldn't be able
to take a video
331
00:12:00,020 --> 00:12:01,920
of a drawing like this
332
00:12:01,988 --> 00:12:04,389
if you weren't
physically there.
333
00:12:04,458 --> 00:12:06,458
- Mm-hmm.
- So, if whoever's
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00:12:06,526 --> 00:12:09,094
running this account
isn't the one drawing it,
335
00:12:09,162 --> 00:12:10,995
like, is he paying someone
336
00:12:11,064 --> 00:12:13,031
to draw them for him?
337
00:12:13,100 --> 00:12:15,567
It feels like
this guy is the artist.
338
00:12:15,635 --> 00:12:18,636
This account
feels pretty legit.
339
00:12:18,705 --> 00:12:21,473
Let's for a moment just assume
this is his artwork.
340
00:12:21,541 --> 00:12:24,075
So that means
that this is his dad,
341
00:12:24,144 --> 00:12:26,144
Danny [bleep].
342
00:12:26,213 --> 00:12:28,747
Let's just do
a Google search for his dad.
343
00:12:28,815 --> 00:12:31,549
This looks like
it's his Facebook page.
344
00:12:31,618 --> 00:12:33,084
Yeah, all right.
345
00:12:33,153 --> 00:12:34,319
Here's the dad.
346
00:12:34,387 --> 00:12:36,688
- I mean,
if Daryl has Facebook,
347
00:12:36,757 --> 00:12:38,890
then I'm sure his dad
is friends with him.
348
00:12:38,959 --> 00:12:42,193
- Right, well, that's--yeah.
349
00:12:42,262 --> 00:12:44,095
both: Daryl [bleep].
350
00:12:44,164 --> 00:12:46,264
- Boom.
351
00:12:46,333 --> 00:12:48,900
So he's got an active Facebook,
which is interesting,
352
00:12:48,969 --> 00:12:50,735
'cause she was
under the impression
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00:12:50,804 --> 00:12:52,537
that he didn't.
- Mm-hmm.
354
00:12:52,606 --> 00:12:54,239
- He's got pictures on here--
I mean, they're similar
355
00:12:54,307 --> 00:12:56,374
to the ones that he's
posted elsewhere.
356
00:12:56,443 --> 00:12:59,144
But there aren't
any drawings of Apryl.
357
00:13:04,284 --> 00:13:06,084
So his Facebook
sort of presents him
358
00:13:06,153 --> 00:13:07,619
as a bit of a playa.
359
00:13:07,687 --> 00:13:09,220
But this seems like
a Facebook page
360
00:13:09,289 --> 00:13:10,355
that's been up for a while.
361
00:13:10,423 --> 00:13:11,823
It's got a lot of comments.
362
00:13:11,892 --> 00:13:13,124
People engaging with it.
363
00:13:13,193 --> 00:13:14,959
Seems like this is the guy.
364
00:13:15,028 --> 00:13:16,628
- But then that
makes me worried,
365
00:13:16,696 --> 00:13:18,396
because this seems like
366
00:13:18,465 --> 00:13:23,201
he's just not as into Apryl
as she's into him.
367
00:13:23,270 --> 00:13:25,470
- Yeah.
Well, so what should we do?
368
00:13:25,539 --> 00:13:27,839
- I feel like we could
just hit up Daryl.
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00:13:27,908 --> 00:13:29,107
I don't see why we have
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00:13:29,176 --> 00:13:30,508
to beat around the bush.
- Right.
371
00:13:30,577 --> 00:13:32,477
- Maybe we don't put
Apryl's name in it
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00:13:32,546 --> 00:13:34,646
because maybe
there's multiple girls
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00:13:34,714 --> 00:13:35,580
that he's talking to.
374
00:13:35,649 --> 00:13:37,215
I would hit him with a generic
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00:13:37,284 --> 00:13:39,117
"Hey, Daryl,
working on an episode
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00:13:39,186 --> 00:13:40,485
and could use your help."
377
00:13:40,554 --> 00:13:41,786
Everyone wants to write back
378
00:13:41,855 --> 00:13:44,189
when they think that
they're gonna be helpful.
379
00:13:44,257 --> 00:13:45,623
- Let's also send
the same message
380
00:13:45,692 --> 00:13:47,425
to his Facebook just in case.
381
00:13:47,494 --> 00:13:49,127
All right, so now what?
What else can we do?
382
00:13:49,196 --> 00:13:51,396
I don't think there's anything
else we can look at, right?
383
00:13:51,464 --> 00:13:53,898
Wait a second--
there's one more thing,
384
00:13:53,967 --> 00:13:55,266
which is the weird screengrab
385
00:13:55,335 --> 00:13:57,235
of the message
from the "sister,"
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00:13:57,304 --> 00:14:00,438
Candace, and she sent Apryl
a link to a Facebook group.
387
00:14:00,507 --> 00:14:01,806
All right, hold on.
I'm gonna type in
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00:14:01,875 --> 00:14:03,908
this Facebook page.
389
00:14:03,977 --> 00:14:05,376
"You're not alone.
390
00:14:05,445 --> 00:14:06,678
"A place where
you can make friends
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00:14:06,746 --> 00:14:09,013
and share feelings
without being judged."
392
00:14:09,082 --> 00:14:11,549
Candace is the person
who's creating all the posts.
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00:14:11,618 --> 00:14:13,318
I mean, it seems
just like a nice
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00:14:13,386 --> 00:14:15,119
sort of help group page.
395
00:14:15,188 --> 00:14:17,589
Here's her Facebook page.
396
00:14:19,259 --> 00:14:21,192
Not a lot on here.
Or we just can't see it.
397
00:14:21,261 --> 00:14:23,761
- Oh, no, you can't trust
a Bitmoji bitch.
398
00:14:23,830 --> 00:14:25,230
- [chuckles]
399
00:14:25,298 --> 00:14:27,765
Let's look up the Instagram
that sent Apryl that link.
400
00:14:27,834 --> 00:14:28,833
Here it is.
401
00:14:30,036 --> 00:14:32,604
Oh, wait a second.
So Someone's drawing.t.
402
00:14:32,672 --> 00:14:33,571
That's him.
403
00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,340
- [gasps]
- So they obviously do
404
00:14:35,408 --> 00:14:36,374
know each other.
405
00:14:36,443 --> 00:14:38,009
- Could it just be that
406
00:14:38,078 --> 00:14:39,644
Daryl's sister
was sending the link
407
00:14:39,713 --> 00:14:42,814
to all of the people
that her brother follows?
408
00:14:42,883 --> 00:14:44,949
- Whoa, ah!
- Oh!
409
00:14:45,018 --> 00:14:46,618
- Daryl wrote us back.
410
00:14:46,686 --> 00:14:47,619
"Hey."
411
00:14:49,356 --> 00:14:50,889
- Oh, my God, I'm nervous.
He's looking.
412
00:14:50,957 --> 00:14:52,557
He's looking right now.
413
00:14:52,626 --> 00:14:54,993
- "You're welcome."
Okay.
414
00:14:55,061 --> 00:14:58,563
- [gasps]
Oh, no!
415
00:14:58,632 --> 00:15:01,633
It's Candace.
- Why is Candace on his page?
416
00:15:01,701 --> 00:15:03,801
- Ooh!
417
00:15:10,010 --> 00:15:11,576
Ah, yes.
418
00:15:11,645 --> 00:15:14,045
- Oh, my God, oh, my God.
Oh, my God, oh, my God.
419
00:15:14,114 --> 00:15:15,446
[computer chimes]
[gasps]
420
00:15:15,515 --> 00:15:17,248
- Hey.
- Hi.
421
00:15:17,317 --> 00:15:18,816
- Hello, hi.
422
00:15:18,885 --> 00:15:19,984
- Welcome.
423
00:15:20,053 --> 00:15:21,819
- So you're
Daryl's sister, right?
424
00:15:21,888 --> 00:15:23,421
- Yeah, that's my brother.
425
00:15:23,490 --> 00:15:25,256
- Got it.
- Right. Question--
426
00:15:25,325 --> 00:15:28,226
why were you
in Daryl's Instagram?
427
00:15:28,295 --> 00:15:31,162
- Because...
428
00:15:31,231 --> 00:15:35,633
I handle his financial side
to his art.
429
00:15:35,702 --> 00:15:38,536
- I see, and he gets booked
a lot through Instagram?
430
00:15:38,605 --> 00:15:40,872
- Yes.
- Got it.
431
00:15:40,941 --> 00:15:43,875
Do you talk to people
on his Instagram account
432
00:15:43,944 --> 00:15:45,276
other than clients?
433
00:15:45,345 --> 00:15:48,012
- No, I'm only there
to handle the financial.
434
00:15:48,081 --> 00:15:49,380
- Hmm.
- Okay.
435
00:15:49,449 --> 00:15:50,748
Where's he at?
436
00:15:50,817 --> 00:15:53,885
- He's at work currently.
437
00:15:53,954 --> 00:15:55,086
- 'Cause, basically,
438
00:15:55,155 --> 00:15:57,255
there's a lovely
young woman, Apryl,
439
00:15:57,324 --> 00:15:59,023
who was excited
at the possibility
440
00:15:59,092 --> 00:16:01,225
of finally meeting him,
but he doesn't
441
00:16:01,294 --> 00:16:02,727
want to talk on the phone
or video-chat.
442
00:16:02,796 --> 00:16:04,495
Now, is that just
typical behavior
443
00:16:04,564 --> 00:16:06,998
because Daryl just doesn't
like doing those things?
444
00:16:07,067 --> 00:16:11,536
- Um, he can be, in a sense,
his own character, so...
445
00:16:11,604 --> 00:16:13,805
- And what about you?
Are you in a relationship?
446
00:16:13,873 --> 00:16:15,940
- No.
- Okay.
447
00:16:16,009 --> 00:16:17,241
- Candace, the only reason
448
00:16:17,310 --> 00:16:19,277
we were aware of you
was because
449
00:16:19,346 --> 00:16:20,578
Apryl mentioned that
450
00:16:20,647 --> 00:16:22,780
you had actually
sent her a message
451
00:16:22,849 --> 00:16:24,582
with a link
to the Facebook page
452
00:16:24,651 --> 00:16:25,783
that I believe you started,
453
00:16:25,852 --> 00:16:27,852
which was like
a support group page?
454
00:16:27,921 --> 00:16:29,187
- No.
455
00:16:29,255 --> 00:16:30,688
- No, you did not
send that message?
456
00:16:30,757 --> 00:16:32,857
- My page--my page got hacked.
457
00:16:32,926 --> 00:16:33,992
- Oh.
458
00:16:34,060 --> 00:16:35,293
- Wait, so--okay.
459
00:16:35,362 --> 00:16:37,862
So did you make
a "You Are Not Alone"
460
00:16:37,931 --> 00:16:39,998
Facebook group?
461
00:16:40,066 --> 00:16:41,399
- Yes.
462
00:16:41,468 --> 00:16:44,035
- But you were not
the one on Instagram
463
00:16:44,104 --> 00:16:46,871
that was sending the link out
to different people?
464
00:16:46,940 --> 00:16:48,940
- I do not recall
465
00:16:49,009 --> 00:16:51,209
sending the link out.
466
00:16:51,277 --> 00:16:53,511
- Okay, interesting.
467
00:16:53,580 --> 00:16:54,545
Look, Candace,
468
00:16:54,614 --> 00:16:59,550
you can understand that to us,
469
00:16:59,619 --> 00:17:01,886
it appears that
talking to Apryl all this time.
470
00:17:01,955 --> 00:17:03,488
- No.
[chuckles]
471
00:17:03,556 --> 00:17:06,324
No, it's not--not me.
472
00:17:06,393 --> 00:17:07,492
- Well--
- Got it.
473
00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,127
- I mean, it--
[computer chimes]
474
00:17:09,195 --> 00:17:10,294
- Oh.
475
00:17:10,363 --> 00:17:11,596
♪ ♪
476
00:17:11,664 --> 00:17:12,730
Wait.
477
00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:14,232
- Candace, are you still here?
478
00:17:14,300 --> 00:17:15,566
- Is she coming back or, like--
479
00:17:15,635 --> 00:17:16,868
What--what just happened?
480
00:17:16,936 --> 00:17:18,970
What the [bleep] is going on?
481
00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:21,072
- [laughs]
- Where did she go?
482
00:17:21,141 --> 00:17:23,341
- Oh, she's typing,
she's typing.
483
00:17:23,410 --> 00:17:24,609
She said her Zoom crashed.
484
00:17:24,677 --> 00:17:26,444
- Her phone died.
485
00:17:26,513 --> 00:17:28,212
- She said that she'll
get in touch with Daryl.
486
00:17:29,416 --> 00:17:31,682
- I mean, look,
something is definitely up.
487
00:17:31,751 --> 00:17:36,187
Maybe Candace made
an Instagram account for him.
488
00:17:36,256 --> 00:17:37,555
- [gasps]
- And he doesn't even
489
00:17:37,624 --> 00:17:39,190
necessarily know
that they exist.
490
00:17:39,259 --> 00:17:40,892
- [softly]
That's a possibility.
491
00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,594
Maybe Candace finds, like,
the muses and stuff like that
492
00:17:43,663 --> 00:17:46,164
and has him draw these people.
493
00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:48,433
That's why Apryl hasn't
talked to him on the phone
494
00:17:48,501 --> 00:17:50,101
because it's Candace.
495
00:17:51,371 --> 00:17:54,305
And that's not gonna
go over well with Apryl.
496
00:17:57,310 --> 00:17:58,743
- Kamie.
497
00:17:58,812 --> 00:18:00,578
[upbeat music]
498
00:18:00,647 --> 00:18:02,380
There she is.
[computer chimes]
499
00:18:02,449 --> 00:18:05,383
We got an exciting
cliffhanger here.
500
00:18:05,452 --> 00:18:07,351
It feels as though
we've established
501
00:18:07,420 --> 00:18:09,220
that Daryl's a real guy.
- Mm-hmm.
502
00:18:09,289 --> 00:18:11,089
- And he's an artist,
and he's also the guy
503
00:18:11,157 --> 00:18:12,190
in those pictures.
- Right.
504
00:18:12,258 --> 00:18:14,125
- Of course,
then we get the curveball
505
00:18:14,194 --> 00:18:16,160
of the person who responds
506
00:18:16,229 --> 00:18:18,062
to the DM we sent to Daryl
507
00:18:18,131 --> 00:18:21,332
is Daryl's sister Candace.
508
00:18:21,401 --> 00:18:23,568
- I don't know how Apryl
is gonna feel about it, but--
509
00:18:23,636 --> 00:18:26,204
- Let's get Apryl back on Zoom
510
00:18:26,272 --> 00:18:28,706
and see what's going on
with her.
511
00:18:28,775 --> 00:18:29,607
[computer chimes]
512
00:18:29,676 --> 00:18:32,143
- Bonjour!
- Bonjour.
513
00:18:32,212 --> 00:18:34,078
- How are you?
514
00:18:34,147 --> 00:18:35,613
- I'm good.
515
00:18:35,682 --> 00:18:37,715
Excited, nervous, but I'm good.
516
00:18:37,784 --> 00:18:40,151
- Well, we have a little bit
of an update.
517
00:18:40,220 --> 00:18:41,552
- Yeah.
- Okay.
518
00:18:41,621 --> 00:18:43,087
- We've got some
interesting information here.
519
00:18:43,156 --> 00:18:44,856
So let me share my screen,
520
00:18:44,924 --> 00:18:46,057
and we'll kind of
walk you through
521
00:18:46,126 --> 00:18:47,458
everything that we found.
522
00:18:47,527 --> 00:18:49,060
- Okay.
- Okay.
523
00:18:49,129 --> 00:18:51,429
So this is Daryl's Instagram.
524
00:18:51,498 --> 00:18:52,864
We looked through it
more closely,
525
00:18:52,932 --> 00:18:55,399
and we found that
the guy in this picture
526
00:18:55,468 --> 00:18:57,268
is definitely
the guy making the art,
527
00:18:57,337 --> 00:18:59,036
from what we can tell.
- Okay.
528
00:18:59,105 --> 00:19:01,906
- So our first instinct was,
529
00:19:01,975 --> 00:19:04,175
let's find out more
about this guy.
530
00:19:04,244 --> 00:19:05,443
Is this really his dad?
531
00:19:05,512 --> 00:19:06,878
Is there a connection
between them?
532
00:19:06,946 --> 00:19:08,412
What can we discover?
533
00:19:08,481 --> 00:19:11,415
So we just did a search
for Danny [bleep].
534
00:19:11,484 --> 00:19:14,152
And so when we found
Danny's Facebook page,
535
00:19:14,220 --> 00:19:15,920
our first thought was,
let's see
536
00:19:15,989 --> 00:19:17,989
if maybe he's friends
with his son.
537
00:19:18,057 --> 00:19:20,858
So we just searched
the dad's Facebook for Daryl,
538
00:19:20,927 --> 00:19:22,827
and bam.
539
00:19:22,896 --> 00:19:24,162
A page came up.
540
00:19:24,230 --> 00:19:25,930
Now, you had said
you didn't think
541
00:19:25,999 --> 00:19:28,966
Daryl had a Facebook page.
- Yeah.
542
00:19:29,035 --> 00:19:30,935
- Well, this one matches
543
00:19:31,004 --> 00:19:34,405
all of the posts and pictures,
and, so, like, this clearly
544
00:19:34,474 --> 00:19:36,874
is his Facebook page.
- Mm-hmm.
545
00:19:36,943 --> 00:19:38,709
- So that just seemed
a little weird.
546
00:19:38,778 --> 00:19:40,878
Like, well, why wouldn't
you know about this
547
00:19:40,947 --> 00:19:42,313
when this one's
clearly active?
548
00:19:42,382 --> 00:19:43,915
- Yeah, exactly.
549
00:19:43,983 --> 00:19:45,349
- Strange.
- Yeah.
550
00:19:45,418 --> 00:19:46,551
- Does this sound like him?
551
00:19:46,619 --> 00:19:47,952
Do you recognize his language
552
00:19:48,021 --> 00:19:50,021
and his sort of style
in these posts?
553
00:19:50,089 --> 00:19:51,556
- I mean, to be honest,
554
00:19:51,624 --> 00:19:53,591
I'm reading these, and, like,
555
00:19:53,660 --> 00:19:56,527
it's really not
the same type of things
556
00:19:56,596 --> 00:19:59,330
that he would say
in a conversation with me
557
00:19:59,399 --> 00:20:01,199
or that I see him
post on his Instagram.
558
00:20:01,267 --> 00:20:04,802
Like, it's a little more,
I guess, vulgar and intense.
559
00:20:04,871 --> 00:20:07,972
- So I'm not sure
what's going on with that.
560
00:20:08,041 --> 00:20:09,173
At this point,
561
00:20:09,242 --> 00:20:10,341
we figured we might as well
562
00:20:10,410 --> 00:20:11,742
send him a message
on his Facebook,
563
00:20:11,811 --> 00:20:13,744
but we still haven't
heard back.
564
00:20:13,813 --> 00:20:15,546
Then we remembered
that you had mentioned
565
00:20:15,615 --> 00:20:17,448
that weird message you got...
566
00:20:17,517 --> 00:20:18,849
- Yeah.
- From someone who
567
00:20:18,918 --> 00:20:22,053
Daryl later identified to you
as his sister.
568
00:20:22,121 --> 00:20:23,321
- Yeah.
- All right.
569
00:20:23,389 --> 00:20:25,489
And her name was Candace.
- Mm-hmm.
570
00:20:25,558 --> 00:20:27,158
- So we went
to the Instagram page
571
00:20:27,227 --> 00:20:28,726
that sent you that message.
572
00:20:28,795 --> 00:20:31,395
There's a video
of Daryl drawing on it,
573
00:20:31,464 --> 00:20:32,964
so there's a connection,
574
00:20:33,032 --> 00:20:35,032
obviously,
between her and him.
575
00:20:35,101 --> 00:20:36,801
So, if he's real
576
00:20:36,869 --> 00:20:39,003
and if he's not lying
or hiding anything,
577
00:20:39,072 --> 00:20:40,705
then there's no reason
that we shouldn't just
578
00:20:40,773 --> 00:20:42,073
send him a message.
- Yeah.
579
00:20:42,141 --> 00:20:44,942
- So we sent Daryl
a message on Instagram,
580
00:20:45,011 --> 00:20:46,877
and right away
Daryl wrote back.
581
00:20:46,946 --> 00:20:47,745
"Hey."
582
00:20:47,814 --> 00:20:49,413
And then I got this message...
583
00:20:52,885 --> 00:20:54,118
- What?
584
00:20:54,187 --> 00:20:55,920
- Yeah.
- So strange.
585
00:20:55,989 --> 00:20:57,388
- Oh, my God.
586
00:20:57,457 --> 00:21:00,591
- So I was like, "Any chance
you can jump in a Zoom?"
587
00:21:00,660 --> 00:21:02,593
At which point, Candace
588
00:21:02,662 --> 00:21:05,529
comes in the Zoom.
- What?
589
00:21:05,598 --> 00:21:07,298
- So we asked her--
why is she responding
590
00:21:07,367 --> 00:21:08,933
to his DMs?
- Uh-huh.
591
00:21:09,002 --> 00:21:11,302
- And in a very awkward way,
she said,
592
00:21:11,371 --> 00:21:13,537
"Oh, well, I handle
593
00:21:13,606 --> 00:21:16,941
"his financial sort of
business dealings.
594
00:21:17,010 --> 00:21:18,576
"'Cause he gets
requests from people
595
00:21:18,645 --> 00:21:21,078
"to buy art or commission work,
596
00:21:21,147 --> 00:21:23,281
so I handle that for him."
597
00:21:23,349 --> 00:21:26,150
- Hmm, okay.
- Weird.
598
00:21:26,219 --> 00:21:27,118
- Then it came up, I said,
599
00:21:27,186 --> 00:21:28,352
"Well, oh, you know--
600
00:21:28,421 --> 00:21:29,553
"you actually know
Apryl, too, because
601
00:21:29,622 --> 00:21:32,390
you sent her a message."
- Mm-hmm.
602
00:21:32,458 --> 00:21:34,492
- And she said,
"No, I didn't."
603
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:35,993
And I was like,
"Well, we know you did
604
00:21:36,062 --> 00:21:38,596
because it came
from your Instagram account."
605
00:21:38,665 --> 00:21:41,132
And she said,
"Oh, I got hacked and
606
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,168
locked out of that account."
- That doesn't make any sense.
607
00:21:44,237 --> 00:21:45,469
- None of it made sense.
608
00:21:45,538 --> 00:21:47,972
The weirdest part to me was,
609
00:21:48,041 --> 00:21:50,074
we're in the middle
of talking to her about you,
610
00:21:50,143 --> 00:21:51,309
and all of a sudden,
611
00:21:51,377 --> 00:21:53,144
she disappears
off the Zoom.
612
00:21:53,212 --> 00:21:54,378
She was just gone.
613
00:21:54,447 --> 00:21:57,348
No call back.
She didn't come back in.
614
00:21:57,417 --> 00:21:58,849
But she messaged us.
615
00:21:58,918 --> 00:22:00,384
- She just wrote back,
"I'll talk to Daryl
616
00:22:00,453 --> 00:22:01,419
and get back to you."
617
00:22:01,487 --> 00:22:02,787
So I hate to say it,
618
00:22:02,855 --> 00:22:04,622
but there's
a strong possibility
619
00:22:04,691 --> 00:22:07,992
that Candace is the person
you're talking to.
620
00:22:08,061 --> 00:22:09,827
- Wow, okay.
[laughs]
621
00:22:09,896 --> 00:22:11,996
Um, I was not prepared
for that.
622
00:22:12,065 --> 00:22:15,166
- Maybe Daryl's never been
on the Instagram account.
623
00:22:15,234 --> 00:22:17,868
Maybe she's been the one
who started the account
624
00:22:17,937 --> 00:22:19,737
and has been running
the account the entire time
625
00:22:19,806 --> 00:22:21,739
and he isn't
a social media person.
626
00:22:21,808 --> 00:22:23,708
Maybe he just has Facebook.
627
00:22:23,776 --> 00:22:25,543
- And the language
that he used on his Facebook,
628
00:22:25,611 --> 00:22:28,079
which you hadn't seen...
- Yeah.
629
00:22:28,147 --> 00:22:29,914
- Is a little different
and doesn't sound like Daryl
630
00:22:29,982 --> 00:22:31,682
because that's not
who you're talking to.
631
00:22:31,751 --> 00:22:33,551
[thoughtful music]
632
00:22:33,619 --> 00:22:34,952
- [exhales sharply]
633
00:22:35,021 --> 00:22:36,287
Okay.
- And the fact that
634
00:22:36,356 --> 00:22:37,888
you haven't talked to him
on the phone
635
00:22:37,957 --> 00:22:39,523
and that he hasn't
wanted to video-chat,
636
00:22:39,592 --> 00:22:42,193
well, to me, that means
637
00:22:42,261 --> 00:22:44,628
that there's something
about his voice
638
00:22:44,697 --> 00:22:46,464
or the way he looks
639
00:22:46,532 --> 00:22:47,998
that he doesn't want you
to know.
640
00:22:48,067 --> 00:22:49,100
And so, if you're Candace
641
00:22:49,168 --> 00:22:51,369
and you have
a very, very different voice
642
00:22:51,437 --> 00:22:52,937
than what you'd expect,
643
00:22:53,005 --> 00:22:55,005
that would explain
not getting on the phone.
644
00:22:55,074 --> 00:22:56,140
♪ ♪
645
00:22:57,310 --> 00:22:59,510
because I had no idea
- Tthat she was even-- me
646
00:22:59,579 --> 00:23:01,479
that she even had access
to his account.
647
00:23:01,547 --> 00:23:04,215
So that's why I'm so confused.
648
00:23:04,283 --> 00:23:05,816
♪ ♪
649
00:23:05,885 --> 00:23:08,452
And the question in my mind is,
like, has it been her
650
00:23:08,521 --> 00:23:10,254
that I've been DMing
every single time?
651
00:23:10,323 --> 00:23:14,525
- ♪ The ones we love
are the ones who hurt us ♪
652
00:23:14,594 --> 00:23:17,061
- And I feel like
it's been so long
653
00:23:17,130 --> 00:23:20,998
and I've gone through
so many, like, emotions...
654
00:23:21,067 --> 00:23:24,502
and I'm thinking
of all the messages I've sent
655
00:23:24,570 --> 00:23:26,103
that I thought
I was speaking to him,
656
00:23:27,173 --> 00:23:29,607
if I was actually speaking
and nto Candace.know
657
00:23:29,675 --> 00:23:31,742
- ♪ Trust no one ♪
658
00:23:31,811 --> 00:23:34,078
- This is freaking me out.
659
00:23:36,082 --> 00:23:38,182
- Are you all right, Apryl?
660
00:23:38,251 --> 00:23:40,885
- I'm just confused.
[chuckles]
661
00:23:40,953 --> 00:23:43,521
♪ ♪
662
00:23:43,589 --> 00:23:46,757
His sister having read
the Instagram from me
663
00:23:46,826 --> 00:23:48,125
is just--
664
00:23:48,194 --> 00:23:50,094
that completely changed
my whole perspective
665
00:23:50,163 --> 00:23:52,563
on everything.
- Right.
666
00:23:52,632 --> 00:23:54,465
- Now, the question
in my mind is, like,
667
00:23:54,534 --> 00:23:56,834
has it been her that I've been
DMing every single time?
668
00:23:56,903 --> 00:23:58,335
- Right.
- Because for you guys,
669
00:23:58,404 --> 00:24:01,705
it's, "Yeah, it's Candace,"
but me, it's supposedly Daryl.
670
00:24:01,774 --> 00:24:03,374
- Yeah.
671
00:24:03,443 --> 00:24:06,343
- So right now I'm--I'm
kind of pissed off, actually.
672
00:24:06,412 --> 00:24:08,612
And I want some explanations.
673
00:24:08,681 --> 00:24:11,182
- Well, going by the evidence
that we've been able to get,
674
00:24:11,250 --> 00:24:12,483
there's a strong possibility
675
00:24:12,552 --> 00:24:15,953
that Candace is the person
you're talking to.
676
00:24:16,022 --> 00:24:18,322
- Wow.
- But, like, at the moment,
677
00:24:18,391 --> 00:24:20,324
we're just sort of stuck
at this weird spot,
678
00:24:20,393 --> 00:24:23,494
because if Candace
is behind Daryl's Instagram,
679
00:24:23,563 --> 00:24:26,230
who knows what her motives
or real feelings are?
680
00:24:26,299 --> 00:24:28,666
- Right.
- Unless Candace is ready
681
00:24:30,102 --> 00:24:33,771
I mean, she was very quick and
eager to talk to us yesterday.
682
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,373
So I'm gonna send another
message to Daryl's Instagram.
683
00:24:36,442 --> 00:24:38,375
"Anyone there?"
I'll just say "Anyone there?"
684
00:24:38,444 --> 00:24:40,511
- Me and Daryl, we've said
things to each other like,
685
00:24:40,580 --> 00:24:42,079
"Oh, um, you know,
686
00:24:42,148 --> 00:24:43,581
"if we lived closer,
we would get married.
687
00:24:43,649 --> 00:24:45,583
Like, I would be
with you in a second."
688
00:24:45,651 --> 00:24:47,985
Like, I'm still thinking
that I was having
689
00:24:48,054 --> 00:24:50,754
those conversations
with Candace.
690
00:24:50,823 --> 00:24:52,456
It's just...
691
00:24:52,525 --> 00:24:54,058
[computer pops]
- Oh, I got a DM.
692
00:24:54,126 --> 00:24:55,626
- "Yes," okay.
693
00:25:00,032 --> 00:25:03,133
- Candace for 500, Alex.
694
00:25:03,202 --> 00:25:05,603
They're quick, wow.
695
00:25:05,671 --> 00:25:07,371
Candace, I knew it!
696
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,240
- But why is it always Candace?
697
00:25:09,308 --> 00:25:11,108
This is freaking me out.
698
00:25:11,177 --> 00:25:13,110
- If it's Candace
every time we send a message,
699
00:25:13,179 --> 00:25:15,145
probably Candace
when you send a message.
700
00:25:15,214 --> 00:25:17,381
- Oh, my God.
701
00:25:17,450 --> 00:25:19,984
- Let me guess--
he said he doesn't want
702
00:25:20,052 --> 00:25:21,886
to be a part of the show.
703
00:25:21,954 --> 00:25:24,588
[suspenseful music]
704
00:25:24,657 --> 00:25:26,490
♪ ♪
705
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:28,158
[clicks tongue]
Of course.
706
00:25:28,227 --> 00:25:30,728
- What did he say?
707
00:25:30,796 --> 00:25:33,998
♪ ♪
708
00:25:34,066 --> 00:25:35,900
- Oh...
709
00:25:35,968 --> 00:25:38,102
♪ ♪
710
00:25:38,170 --> 00:25:39,236
- The suspense is killing me.
711
00:25:39,305 --> 00:25:44,708
♪ ♪
712
00:25:44,777 --> 00:25:45,876
- This is very weird.
713
00:25:45,945 --> 00:25:47,177
- I get that...
714
00:25:49,582 --> 00:25:56,320
♪ ♪
715
00:25:59,525 --> 00:26:05,362
"Apryl is
understandably confused."
716
00:26:12,505 --> 00:26:15,706
- Apryl, if Daryl
doesn't show up today,
717
00:26:15,775 --> 00:26:18,809
are you still willing
to talk to whoever
718
00:26:18,878 --> 00:26:20,344
you're talking to?
719
00:26:20,413 --> 00:26:21,745
- It's been so long,
720
00:26:21,814 --> 00:26:24,381
and I've gone through so many,
like, emotions,
721
00:26:24,450 --> 00:26:26,584
I don't see why,
after everything,
722
00:26:26,652 --> 00:26:29,053
you would just not show up.
- Right.
723
00:26:29,121 --> 00:26:31,221
♪ ♪
724
00:26:31,290 --> 00:26:32,957
You see what she wrote?
725
00:26:33,025 --> 00:26:35,125
- Yeah.
726
00:26:35,194 --> 00:26:37,661
- Oh, God,
what is she writing now?
727
00:26:37,730 --> 00:26:44,668
♪ ♪
728
00:26:49,275 --> 00:26:51,675
- What?
She stopped.
729
00:26:51,744 --> 00:26:54,979
♪ ♪
730
00:26:55,047 --> 00:26:56,246
- [inhales deeply]
731
00:26:56,315 --> 00:27:00,084
♪ ♪
732
00:27:00,152 --> 00:27:01,218
I am sweating.
733
00:27:01,287 --> 00:27:03,354
Gosh.
734
00:27:03,422 --> 00:27:05,022
I'm really freaking out
735
00:27:05,091 --> 00:27:06,957
over here, to be honest.
- Yeah.
736
00:27:07,026 --> 00:27:09,927
- I wasn't expecting a lot
of the things that I found out,
737
00:27:09,996 --> 00:27:13,397
so now my mind has just been
kind of racing ever since.
738
00:27:13,466 --> 00:27:14,732
- If it is Candace,
739
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,533
she has a lot
of explaining to do.
740
00:27:16,602 --> 00:27:18,035
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
741
00:27:18,104 --> 00:27:20,671
- And if Daryl knew about it
the whole time, so does he.
742
00:27:20,740 --> 00:27:22,139
- Oh, yeah.
743
00:27:22,208 --> 00:27:24,108
- There's...
[computer chimes]
744
00:27:24,176 --> 00:27:25,976
No new message--oh.
745
00:27:26,045 --> 00:27:28,178
[suspenseful music]
746
00:27:28,247 --> 00:27:28,512
- Oh, my goodness.
747
00:27:29,281 --> 00:27:30,547
- I am sweating.
- Yeah.
748
00:27:30,616 --> 00:27:32,082
- I'm really freaking
out over here.
749
00:27:32,151 --> 00:27:33,217
[computer chimes]
- Oh.
750
00:27:33,285 --> 00:27:36,387
[suspenseful music]
751
00:27:36,455 --> 00:27:39,556
♪ ♪
752
00:27:39,625 --> 00:27:40,824
- Daryl!
753
00:27:40,893 --> 00:27:41,859
- What up?
- [chuckles]
754
00:27:41,927 --> 00:27:43,160
- What's up, man?
755
00:27:43,229 --> 00:27:44,862
- What's up, man?
- Wow.
756
00:27:44,930 --> 00:27:46,530
- It's real.
- Hi.
757
00:27:46,599 --> 00:27:47,898
- What's up, bro?
758
00:27:47,967 --> 00:27:49,033
- I don't believe it.
759
00:27:49,101 --> 00:27:51,168
- Oh, my gosh.
- What's up, Apryl?
760
00:27:51,237 --> 00:27:53,237
- Wait, so hold on a second.
761
00:27:53,305 --> 00:27:55,005
We're all very confused,
762
00:27:55,074 --> 00:27:57,041
'cause you're obviously you.
763
00:27:57,109 --> 00:28:00,477
- For sure, for sure.
- [laughs]
764
00:28:00,546 --> 00:28:04,081
- But when I DM'd you,
Candace wrote back.
765
00:28:04,150 --> 00:28:06,316
- Ooh, yeah.
- So what's up with that?
766
00:28:06,385 --> 00:28:08,285
Why is Candace in your DMs?
767
00:28:08,354 --> 00:28:11,388
- All right, she handles
certain drawings, like these.
768
00:28:11,457 --> 00:28:13,157
- Handled?
What do you mean handled?
769
00:28:13,225 --> 00:28:14,758
- Like, the prices.
770
00:28:14,827 --> 00:28:17,428
Like, she gives out the prices
for the art and [bleep], so...
771
00:28:17,496 --> 00:28:19,797
That's all she be doing
in there.
772
00:28:19,865 --> 00:28:21,799
- But she's still in there.
773
00:28:21,867 --> 00:28:23,133
- Oh.
774
00:28:24,603 --> 00:28:27,104
Only for the holiday,
'cause I was super busy,
775
00:28:27,173 --> 00:28:30,607
so I had her in there
for November, December
776
00:28:30,676 --> 00:28:33,243
just to handle
these new commissions--
777
00:28:33,312 --> 00:28:35,012
business, art stuff.
- Okay.
778
00:28:35,081 --> 00:28:36,547
- That's it.
779
00:28:36,615 --> 00:28:38,382
She don't read no messages
from me and Apryl or nothing.
780
00:28:38,451 --> 00:28:40,050
That's just me.
Swear to God.
781
00:28:43,289 --> 00:28:46,090
Stay out of that.
It's just between me and her.
782
00:28:46,158 --> 00:28:48,625
- So you told Canace
specifically,
783
00:28:48,694 --> 00:28:51,862
"If it's this girl, Apryl,
do not respond."
784
00:28:51,931 --> 00:28:53,163
- Oh, yeah, for sure.
785
00:28:53,232 --> 00:28:55,332
[keys clacking]
786
00:28:59,338 --> 00:29:01,305
- Obviously,
you can understand, right?
787
00:29:01,373 --> 00:29:03,807
Like, I messaged you,
and she wrote back
788
00:29:03,876 --> 00:29:06,076
and said, "Oh, this is Candace.
I'm on his page."
789
00:29:06,145 --> 00:29:07,811
We thought Apryl
had been talking
790
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,046
to your sister the whole time.
791
00:29:09,115 --> 00:29:10,581
- Oh, no.
Hell, no.
792
00:29:10,649 --> 00:29:15,419
- Well, okay, what's up
with Candace messaging Apryl
793
00:29:15,488 --> 00:29:16,787
on Instagram?
794
00:29:16,856 --> 00:29:19,323
And you told Apryl
to ignore it.
795
00:29:19,391 --> 00:29:22,159
- Oh, yeah,
because her page is hacked.
796
00:29:22,228 --> 00:29:23,660
She told me that--
797
00:29:23,729 --> 00:29:25,763
'cause that page is sending
random messages to people.
798
00:29:25,831 --> 00:29:26,897
I don't know why.
799
00:29:26,966 --> 00:29:29,066
It sent a link
to a Facebook group
800
00:29:29,135 --> 00:29:31,268
that Candace started.
801
00:29:31,337 --> 00:29:33,937
- That page got hacked
or something.
802
00:29:34,006 --> 00:29:35,773
She told me it's hacked,
and she can't--
803
00:29:35,841 --> 00:29:37,374
no access to it or something.
804
00:29:37,443 --> 00:29:39,710
So she made a new Facebook.
- Huh.
805
00:29:39,779 --> 00:29:41,712
So you're telling me
806
00:29:41,781 --> 00:29:46,483
that the only person who Apryl
has ever communicated with
807
00:29:46,552 --> 00:29:49,286
is you, and that's that.
- Oh, yeah, for sure, 100%.
808
00:29:50,556 --> 00:29:52,489
that Candace never responded
to Apryl's messages,
809
00:29:52,558 --> 00:29:54,391
since she responded
to my message?
810
00:29:54,460 --> 00:29:56,393
- I trust her.
She not going in there.
811
00:29:56,462 --> 00:30:00,030
I would've shut all that down
if she even sent one message.
812
00:30:00,099 --> 00:30:02,032
I would've shut
all that [bleep] down.
813
00:30:02,101 --> 00:30:03,867
- All right.
- 'Cause I'm the first one
814
00:30:03,936 --> 00:30:05,536
to see her messages.
815
00:30:05,604 --> 00:30:07,704
I make sure, I'm like, "Oh,
[bleep], she's messaging me?
816
00:30:07,773 --> 00:30:09,206
All right, quick, every time.
817
00:30:09,275 --> 00:30:10,507
It's me.
818
00:30:10,576 --> 00:30:12,676
- Okay,
I'm happy to hear that.
819
00:30:12,745 --> 00:30:14,077
What's then confusing to me
820
00:30:14,146 --> 00:30:15,512
is just that it is you,
821
00:30:15,581 --> 00:30:17,614
and it has been you talking to
Apryl this whole time.
822
00:30:17,683 --> 00:30:20,017
Why so shady? Why don't you
give her your phone number
823
00:30:20,085 --> 00:30:21,952
or video-chat or...?
- Oh, yeah.
824
00:30:22,021 --> 00:30:23,487
- What's up with that?
825
00:30:23,556 --> 00:30:26,990
- I ain't think she wanted
to talk to me like that.
826
00:30:27,059 --> 00:30:28,559
I didn't really know that she
827
00:30:28,627 --> 00:30:30,427
was, like, feeling me at all,
to be honest.
828
00:30:30,496 --> 00:30:32,229
Even if I was just drawing you
or whatever,
829
00:30:32,298 --> 00:30:33,864
I could be just
another creepy-ass dude.
830
00:30:33,933 --> 00:30:35,432
I know you got
a lot of attention.
831
00:30:35,501 --> 00:30:37,734
You bad, so I'm like, I'm gonna
come different a little bit
832
00:30:37,803 --> 00:30:39,903
with the art and see
if she like it or whatever.
833
00:30:39,972 --> 00:30:41,738
- Right, but she did.
She liked it.
834
00:30:41,807 --> 00:30:44,174
You guys have been friends now
for years,
835
00:30:44,243 --> 00:30:46,076
and I think--
at least she feels
836
00:30:46,145 --> 00:30:47,911
that it's been made
pretty clear
837
00:30:47,980 --> 00:30:50,347
that you're more than friends
or could be more than friends.
838
00:30:50,416 --> 00:30:51,815
- I want to.
I want to.
839
00:30:51,884 --> 00:30:53,116
That's why I'm here.
840
00:30:53,185 --> 00:30:56,587
[warm music]
841
00:30:56,655 --> 00:30:58,288
♪ ♪
842
00:30:58,357 --> 00:31:01,024
- So we found that you do have
a Facebook page.
843
00:31:01,093 --> 00:31:02,726
- Yep.
- But you're not friends
844
00:31:02,795 --> 00:31:04,228
with her on that Facebook page.
845
00:31:04,296 --> 00:31:06,396
- Oh, yeah, I'm not.
- Any reason?
846
00:31:06,465 --> 00:31:08,565
- I ain't want to be creepy.
I ain't want to be a stalker.
847
00:31:08,634 --> 00:31:11,001
I don't know.
I don't want to be weird.
848
00:31:11,070 --> 00:31:12,369
- I want to know--
849
00:31:12,438 --> 00:31:14,538
you know, you draw
a lot of girls on your page.
850
00:31:14,607 --> 00:31:17,441
Like, there's a lot
of different people that you--
851
00:31:18,811 --> 00:31:20,644
Why is that?
852
00:31:20,713 --> 00:31:23,447
- 'Cause I'm only focused
on her right now.
853
00:31:23,515 --> 00:31:26,149
- I mean, Apryl is, like,
bursting at the seams.
854
00:31:26,218 --> 00:31:28,252
She's so happy.
855
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,920
And you look like you are, too.
856
00:31:29,989 --> 00:31:31,455
You're both nervous,
by the way,
857
00:31:31,523 --> 00:31:33,624
so just putting it out there.
- Yeah, I'm nervous.
858
00:31:33,692 --> 00:31:36,159
- I'm just in shock right now.
[laughs]
859
00:31:36,228 --> 00:31:38,262
I haven't said a word
in the past five minutes
860
00:31:38,330 --> 00:31:40,631
'cause I'm just in shock.
[giggles]
861
00:31:44,503 --> 00:31:46,236
- What do you like
about Apryl so much?
862
00:31:46,305 --> 00:31:48,071
- Like, she motivate
the [bleep] out of me.
863
00:31:48,140 --> 00:31:49,973
Beautiful [bleep] body.
Like, I'm looking.
864
00:31:50,042 --> 00:31:52,142
It's just like a dream
right now.
865
00:31:52,211 --> 00:31:53,977
- But what
has been keeping you
866
00:31:54,046 --> 00:31:56,213
from seeing her
this entire time?
867
00:31:56,282 --> 00:31:58,548
- Yeah, a lot. I was going
through it for a little bit.
868
00:31:58,617 --> 00:31:59,917
Money problems.
869
00:31:59,985 --> 00:32:01,985
Work was kind of slow
'cause, like, corona.
870
00:32:02,054 --> 00:32:03,453
Just couldn't stack up
quick enough.
871
00:32:03,522 --> 00:32:05,222
I couldn't do
what I wanted to do.
872
00:32:05,291 --> 00:32:07,090
I was getting depressed.
873
00:32:07,159 --> 00:32:08,692
- I think it's fair.
874
00:32:08,761 --> 00:32:11,495
The last years hasn't exactly
been the most ideal
875
00:32:11,563 --> 00:32:14,364
period of time to, you know,
meet up with someone
876
00:32:14,433 --> 00:32:17,334
who lives far away
and in another country.
877
00:32:17,403 --> 00:32:20,304
I get that, but crazy to me
that you wouldn't have said,
878
00:32:20,372 --> 00:32:22,339
like, "Yo, we should talk
on the phone."
879
00:32:22,408 --> 00:32:25,309
- Or just text from your actual
phone number.
880
00:32:25,377 --> 00:32:27,544
Why can't she have
your phone number?
881
00:32:27,613 --> 00:32:29,146
- [chuckles]
I thought about it.
882
00:32:29,214 --> 00:32:30,480
I always think about it,
but like I said,
883
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:32,215
I didn't think
she was gonna want it.
884
00:32:32,284 --> 00:32:34,551
So I'm like--I didn't ask.
I just didn't.
885
00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:37,421
- Well, look, I obviously would
love to let you guys talk,
886
00:32:37,489 --> 00:32:39,690
but before we do that,
I have some questions.
887
00:32:39,758 --> 00:32:41,491
Daryl, if I could chat
with you.
888
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,026
Kamie, if you could talk
with Apryl for a second.
889
00:32:43,095 --> 00:32:44,428
- Yeah.
- All right.
890
00:32:44,496 --> 00:32:45,395
- Okay.
891
00:32:45,464 --> 00:32:47,431
[computer chimes]
- No boys allowed.
892
00:32:47,499 --> 00:32:49,399
[both laugh]
893
00:32:49,468 --> 00:32:50,734
- Whew.
894
00:32:50,803 --> 00:32:52,602
Oh, my gosh.
895
00:32:52,671 --> 00:32:54,237
[both laughing]
896
00:32:54,306 --> 00:32:56,573
- How do you feel?
What do you think?
897
00:32:56,642 --> 00:32:57,908
- I have no words.
898
00:32:57,977 --> 00:33:01,311
I almost cried when he pulled
up on the screen, like...
899
00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:02,980
I was not expecting that.
900
00:33:03,048 --> 00:33:05,082
- And he's so into you.
901
00:33:05,150 --> 00:33:07,284
- When I met him,
I had no words.
902
00:33:07,353 --> 00:33:08,685
I didn't know what to say
903
00:33:08,754 --> 00:33:10,854
because my brain
just kind of went, mm.
904
00:33:10,923 --> 00:33:14,524
- All I kept seeing
was you being, like...
905
00:33:14,593 --> 00:33:16,593
- Just trying
to make myself breathe,
906
00:33:16,662 --> 00:33:19,696
let the oxygen flow through
to the brain, you know.
907
00:33:19,765 --> 00:33:22,165
I'm just excited for him
to come back in the chat.
908
00:33:22,234 --> 00:33:24,267
[both laughs]
- I know.
909
00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:25,769
You're like, "Get the [bleep]
out of here, Kamie.
910
00:33:25,838 --> 00:33:27,904
I'm trying to spit game."
I get it. it's fine.
911
00:33:27,973 --> 00:33:29,272
- I feel like a little girl.
912
00:33:29,341 --> 00:33:30,707
- Hey.
- Hey, man.
913
00:33:30,776 --> 00:33:32,542
- What's up?
- So this is great.
914
00:33:32,611 --> 00:33:34,478
- Yeah, I'm excited.
Yeah. [chuckles]
915
00:33:34,546 --> 00:33:36,847
- It's just, again, and I kind
of mentioned it before,
916
00:33:36,915 --> 00:33:38,382
but after all these years
917
00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:40,150
and talking to her pretty much
every day
918
00:33:40,219 --> 00:33:42,619
and her clearly flirting,
919
00:33:42,688 --> 00:33:45,389
like, you didn't pick up
on enough signals to say, like,
920
00:33:45,457 --> 00:33:47,424
"Okay, I think this girl's
into me."
921
00:33:47,493 --> 00:33:50,694
She described it almost like
you were avoiding her
922
00:33:50,763 --> 00:33:52,562
or pushing her away.
923
00:33:52,631 --> 00:33:54,698
So it just seems
like there's something
924
00:33:54,767 --> 00:33:56,466
you might not be saying.
925
00:33:56,535 --> 00:33:57,934
I just want to make sure
you don't feel
926
00:33:58,003 --> 00:33:59,903
like there's any weird pressure
or expectation
927
00:33:59,972 --> 00:34:02,139
for you to say something
or feel a certain way
928
00:34:02,207 --> 00:34:03,907
and that
you really do like her.
929
00:34:03,976 --> 00:34:05,909
- Yeah, well...
930
00:34:05,978 --> 00:34:08,178
I kind of understand
why she felt like that
931
00:34:08,247 --> 00:34:10,013
'cause I kind of
was pushing her away.
932
00:34:10,082 --> 00:34:12,783
[dramatic music]
933
00:34:12,851 --> 00:34:14,985
- What do you think
that was about?
934
00:34:15,054 --> 00:34:17,754
- [sighs]
935
00:34:17,823 --> 00:34:20,290
♪ ♪
936
00:34:21,427 --> 00:34:23,593
- I kind of
was pushing her away.
937
00:34:23,662 --> 00:34:25,796
- What do you think
that was about?
938
00:34:25,864 --> 00:34:27,664
- [sighs]
939
00:34:27,733 --> 00:34:30,233
[dramatic music]
940
00:34:30,302 --> 00:34:32,869
- At first, I was...
941
00:34:32,938 --> 00:34:34,171
like, shy.
942
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,705
Like, I used to be,
like, super shy.
943
00:34:35,774 --> 00:34:38,008
I used to not be able to look
people in the eye.
944
00:34:38,077 --> 00:34:39,476
I couldn't even make
eye contact,
945
00:34:39,545 --> 00:34:41,711
like, a couple years ago.
- Okay.
946
00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:44,381
- I'm hard on myself,
if you can't tell already.
947
00:34:44,450 --> 00:34:47,084
- Have you had, like,
a serious girlfriend
948
00:34:47,152 --> 00:34:48,785
in the recent past?
949
00:34:48,854 --> 00:34:50,120
- Oh, no.
950
00:34:50,189 --> 00:34:52,222
- No, I've never been
in any relationships.
951
00:34:52,291 --> 00:34:54,124
Never kissed a girl.
- Oh, really?
952
00:34:54,193 --> 00:34:56,093
So you've never been
in love, then, I guess.
953
00:34:56,161 --> 00:34:57,761
- No, not yet.
954
00:34:57,830 --> 00:34:59,996
- Have you tried dating people?
Have people wanted to date you?
955
00:35:00,065 --> 00:35:02,099
Or is it just, like,
not happening?
956
00:35:02,167 --> 00:35:03,733
- I mean, see...
957
00:35:03,802 --> 00:35:07,771
I had chances, but I kind of
avoided all of them.
958
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,441
- Mainly just out of shyness
and insecurity?
959
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:13,610
- Yeah. I haven't tried
in a long time.
960
00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:16,980
- So hitting on women
or asking a girl out
961
00:35:17,049 --> 00:35:18,415
and making your feelings known
962
00:35:18,484 --> 00:35:20,684
is not something that you have
a lot of experience with.
963
00:35:20,752 --> 00:35:23,353
- Yeah, I have no experience,
beside Apryl.
964
00:35:23,422 --> 00:35:25,055
I really do like her, though.
- Right.
965
00:35:25,124 --> 00:35:27,023
And she told us
she really likes you.
966
00:35:27,092 --> 00:35:28,892
She's super into you.
- I didn't--
967
00:35:28,961 --> 00:35:31,161
- You didn't know that.
- I didn't know that.
968
00:35:31,230 --> 00:35:32,395
No, I didn't.
- Okay.
969
00:35:32,464 --> 00:35:34,397
That makes
a lot more sense now.
970
00:35:34,466 --> 00:35:36,733
Well, I mean, that's exciting.
- Mm-hmm, it is.
971
00:35:36,802 --> 00:35:38,568
[laughs]
- You think you can handle her?
972
00:35:38,637 --> 00:35:42,205
- Yeah, I can handle it.
That's why I'm here.
973
00:35:42,274 --> 00:35:43,907
- So, I mean, are you ready
974
00:35:43,976 --> 00:35:46,977
to formally sort of ask her
to go out with you?
975
00:35:47,045 --> 00:35:48,778
- Yeah, I will.
I know I will.
976
00:35:48,847 --> 00:35:51,281
- 'Cause she's been hoping
977
00:35:51,350 --> 00:35:53,383
that something would happen
with you guys.
978
00:35:53,452 --> 00:35:56,086
So she's, like--
- I didn't even know that.
979
00:35:56,155 --> 00:35:58,455
- No, right,
you didn't realize that.
980
00:35:58,524 --> 00:36:00,190
But Apryl's
a beautiful young woman,
981
00:36:00,259 --> 00:36:01,958
and if she doesn't get
the impression
982
00:36:02,027 --> 00:36:03,960
that you're serious
about moving forward, you know,
983
00:36:04,029 --> 00:36:06,329
she might have to start looking
for someone else to date.
984
00:36:06,398 --> 00:36:08,732
I just want you to know that,
like, you've got a chance
985
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,200
to make something happen.
986
00:36:10,269 --> 00:36:11,701
- Yeah, I'm excited.
Yeah.
987
00:36:12,905 --> 00:36:14,437
I'd love to just let you
-guys talk for a minute,.
988
00:36:14,506 --> 00:36:15,739
if that's cool.
- That's cool.
989
00:36:15,807 --> 00:36:18,241
- So I'm gonna
bring them back in.
990
00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:19,676
- All right.
991
00:36:19,745 --> 00:36:22,412
[upbeat music]
992
00:36:22,481 --> 00:36:24,548
[computer chimes]
Alright, guys.
993
00:36:24,616 --> 00:36:26,716
We just want to let you guys
talk for a minute.
994
00:36:26,785 --> 00:36:28,251
And, Apryl, you let me know
995
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,120
when a good time to kind of
come back in would be.
996
00:36:30,189 --> 00:36:31,555
- Okay.
- All right.
997
00:36:31,623 --> 00:36:33,490
- See you.
998
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:35,425
- What's up, bae?
- Hey.
999
00:36:35,494 --> 00:36:36,893
[chuckles]
- Man...
1000
00:36:36,962 --> 00:36:37,994
- This is so weird.
1001
00:36:38,063 --> 00:36:39,829
It's just crazy that, like,
1002
00:36:39,898 --> 00:36:41,531
you're in front of me
right now.
1003
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,633
The second I saw you pop up
on the screen,
1004
00:36:43,702 --> 00:36:45,168
I almost cried, like...
1005
00:36:45,237 --> 00:36:47,037
[both laugh]
- Me too.
1006
00:36:47,105 --> 00:36:50,507
- I was just so happy, like...
- It's like a real dream.
1007
00:36:50,576 --> 00:36:52,175
It's like, I'm happy
as [bleep], though,
1008
00:36:52,244 --> 00:36:53,877
even though I'm nervous
as [bleep] right now.
1009
00:36:53,946 --> 00:36:55,745
My anxiety's going crazy
right now.
1010
00:36:55,814 --> 00:36:57,581
- But that's
another thing, though.
1011
00:36:57,649 --> 00:37:00,183
That's, like--I'm a really
insecure person, too
1012
00:37:00,252 --> 00:37:03,987
Like, I know I put out this
super-confident persona,
1013
00:37:04,056 --> 00:37:06,423
but, like, I'm
a really insecure person.
1014
00:37:06,491 --> 00:37:09,426
Like, yeah, I know I post
a lot of nice-looking pictures,
1015
00:37:09,494 --> 00:37:12,963
but, like, you don't really see
100% of me, you know?
1016
00:37:13,031 --> 00:37:14,364
Like, there's a lot of editing.
1017
00:37:14,433 --> 00:37:17,267
There's a lot of posing
in certain ways, you know.
1018
00:37:17,336 --> 00:37:20,270
- Right, I understand all that,
but it don't even matter.
1019
00:37:20,339 --> 00:37:22,105
[chuckles]
1020
00:37:24,343 --> 00:37:26,409
- I've been going
for my whole life basically,
1021
00:37:26,478 --> 00:37:30,247
like, kind of feeling,
I guess, underappreciated
1022
00:37:30,315 --> 00:37:34,050
by most men that I come
into contact with, you know,
1023
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:36,186
and it's, like, sexual
right away.
1024
00:37:36,255 --> 00:37:38,054
It's like disrespect, you know?
1025
00:37:38,123 --> 00:37:39,923
- Yeah, I'm different.
- I see that.
1026
00:37:39,992 --> 00:37:42,559
- I been single my whole life.
1027
00:37:42,628 --> 00:37:44,294
- You've been single
your whole life?
1028
00:37:44,363 --> 00:37:45,929
- Yep. Never kissed a girl.
1029
00:37:45,998 --> 00:37:47,464
- Damn.
1030
00:37:47,532 --> 00:37:49,032
Why, though?
1031
00:37:49,101 --> 00:37:50,900
- I ain't even
really want none.
1032
00:37:50,969 --> 00:37:52,335
I wasn't really interested
1033
00:37:52,404 --> 00:37:54,304
till, like, two years ago.
1034
00:37:54,373 --> 00:37:56,139
I'm like...
1035
00:37:57,709 --> 00:37:59,142
- Damn.
1036
00:38:03,315 --> 00:38:05,115
- Somehow, you have me
motivated.
1037
00:38:05,183 --> 00:38:07,284
You inspire me. It's like
a spark for some reason.
1038
00:38:07,352 --> 00:38:10,654
Like, I get anxiety
when I send you messages.
1039
00:38:10,722 --> 00:38:13,423
Like, I be nervous. Like, I
don't know if she got feelings.
1040
00:38:13,492 --> 00:38:17,160
Like, just something about you
just had me, like...
1041
00:38:17,229 --> 00:38:18,862
stuck on you.
1042
00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:20,664
- [chuckles]
[bleep].
1043
00:38:20,732 --> 00:38:21,831
- [chuckles]
1044
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:23,366
- I don't even know
what to say.
1045
00:38:23,435 --> 00:38:25,669
Like...
- Since day one.
1046
00:38:25,737 --> 00:38:27,570
I've been in love, for real.
1047
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:29,839
I ain't never been
in love either.
1048
00:38:29,908 --> 00:38:31,641
But I know, when I see you,
1049
00:38:31,710 --> 00:38:35,011
I get a feeling
that I never felt before, so...
1050
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,780
I just know.
1051
00:38:36,848 --> 00:38:39,349
- Oh, my gosh.
[laughs]
1052
00:38:39,418 --> 00:38:42,018
[inhales deeply]
1053
00:38:42,087 --> 00:38:43,820
Like, how are you real?
1054
00:38:43,889 --> 00:38:45,288
[both laugh]
1055
00:38:45,357 --> 00:38:47,023
- I don't believe this
right now.
1056
00:38:47,092 --> 00:38:48,825
Actually, this is amazing.
1057
00:38:48,894 --> 00:38:50,627
- [sniffles]
Oh, [bleep].
1058
00:38:50,696 --> 00:38:52,962
- [chuckles]
1059
00:38:53,031 --> 00:38:57,600
- I think I'm gonna tell them
to come back before...
1060
00:38:57,669 --> 00:39:00,537
- All right.
[both laughing]
1061
00:39:00,605 --> 00:39:01,838
- Ooh.
1062
00:39:01,907 --> 00:39:03,840
Oh, my gosh.
1063
00:39:03,909 --> 00:39:08,378
♪ ♪
1064
00:39:08,447 --> 00:39:10,080
[computer chimes]
1065
00:39:10,148 --> 00:39:11,948
- So what did we miss?
- [chuckles]
1066
00:39:12,017 --> 00:39:14,451
Everything good?
- Yeah, everything good.
1067
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:16,553
- Everything is great, yeah.
1068
00:39:16,621 --> 00:39:18,722
- I'm still in shock
that it's not Candace.
1069
00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:21,091
I-I...
Wow. Okay.
1070
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:23,293
We were wrong, Nev.
We were wrong.
1071
00:39:23,362 --> 00:39:25,995
- So, look, this is, you know,
rare for us on the show,
1072
00:39:26,064 --> 00:39:29,199
but all the more reason
to celebrate and be happy.
1073
00:39:29,267 --> 00:39:31,134
And I just want to make sure
1074
00:39:31,203 --> 00:39:33,470
that we all take
one sort of formal step
1075
00:39:33,538 --> 00:39:35,872
towards you guys
now moving forward.
1076
00:39:35,941 --> 00:39:37,607
So, at the very least,
1077
00:39:37,676 --> 00:39:39,943
can you guys give each other
your numbers so that, like...?
1078
00:39:40,011 --> 00:39:41,378
- Oh, yeah.
- Please.
1079
00:39:41,446 --> 00:39:43,246
- So I say it now?
- Yeah, tell her.
1080
00:39:43,315 --> 00:39:44,447
- 330...
1081
00:39:44,516 --> 00:39:47,083
[bleep].
1082
00:39:47,152 --> 00:39:49,319
[cell phone chimes]
- Oh.
1083
00:39:49,388 --> 00:39:51,221
- Deliver.
- I got it.
1084
00:39:51,289 --> 00:39:52,489
- Okay.
1085
00:39:52,557 --> 00:39:54,924
All right, so we've now got
phone contact.
1086
00:39:54,993 --> 00:39:56,526
All right, well, this is great.
1087
00:39:57,863 --> 00:40:00,063
You know, I really think you
guys have a lot in common.
1088
00:40:00,132 --> 00:40:02,232
You clearly have a good
foundation of friendship
1089
00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:04,634
and respect for one another,
1090
00:40:04,703 --> 00:40:07,070
which, you know, is
a great place to start, so...
1091
00:40:07,139 --> 00:40:08,338
I don't know
what to tell you guys
1092
00:40:08,407 --> 00:40:10,006
other than get to it,
good luck.
1093
00:40:10,075 --> 00:40:12,075
Have fun.
- So who's going where?
1094
00:40:12,144 --> 00:40:13,910
Daryl, are you going
to Montreal?
1095
00:40:13,979 --> 00:40:15,412
Apryl, are you going to Ohio?
1096
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,480
Like, what is the tea?
What's the plan?
1097
00:40:17,549 --> 00:40:18,748
- I'm leaving.
1098
00:40:18,817 --> 00:40:20,383
- So you're ready
to fly up there?
1099
00:40:20,452 --> 00:40:21,451
- Yep.
1100
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,420
- I got a ton
of frequent flyer points.
1101
00:40:23,488 --> 00:40:25,321
So you tell me
as soon as that can happen,
1102
00:40:25,390 --> 00:40:26,990
and I will make
sure it happens.
1103
00:40:27,058 --> 00:40:29,759
- Today.
[laughter]
1104
00:40:29,828 --> 00:40:30,894
He's like, "Tonight."
1105
00:40:30,962 --> 00:40:32,962
- Thank you, guys, so much
for this.
1106
00:40:33,031 --> 00:40:35,565
- I guess that's it for us.
- Yep.
1107
00:40:35,634 --> 00:40:36,800
- Bye, guys.
1108
00:40:36,868 --> 00:40:38,868
- Bye.
- Bye.
1109
00:40:55,353 --> 00:40:57,153
- Michael's been talking
to this guy Dustin.
1110
00:40:57,222 --> 00:40:59,088
He's been stood up by Dustin
five times.
1111
00:40:59,157 --> 00:41:01,090
- Michael.
- If you have been lying,
1112
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:02,559
I'm onto you.
- He's married.
1113
00:41:02,627 --> 00:41:04,527
- What's uglier
than possible divorce?
1114
00:41:04,596 --> 00:41:07,030
- We have an address in, like,
part of downtown.
1115
00:41:07,098 --> 00:41:09,299
- I'll go check it out.
- Turn right on Hope.
1116
00:41:09,367 --> 00:41:12,268
- Ooh, that is a warehouse.
1117
00:41:12,337 --> 00:41:14,036
What?