- Apryl got a message from Daryl saying,
"Hey, I drew a picture from your photos."
- The fact that somebody would spend so much time
making drawings of me.
- You're his muse.
- He does say that to me all the time.
- But you've never heard his voice
or seen him in a video. - No.
- I want to just start with a search of his profile.
- [gasps] - Something is definitely up.
- What the [bleep] is going on?
- I'm really freaking out over here.
[computer chimes] Oh, my goodness.
[dramatic musical sting]
[cheesy upbeat music]
♪ ♪
[computer chimes] - What is happening here?
- I don't know. I just found this
over in the corner under that table,
and I thought could be a good look for me.
- What is it supposed to be?
- It's a chair. I guess it's supposed
to be for, like, people with back pain.
It encourages good posture.
I'm kind of into it. I think I'm gonna try it out.
- You look like you're riding passenger seat
on Santa's sleigh.
[both laugh]
- Yeah, all right.
While you enjoy your breakfast bowl,
I'm going to open up the old mail app.
- Ready.
- Oh, an email from Apryl. - Hmm.
A-P-R-Y-L. - The subject--
"Has it been four years of lies?"
- Probably. - Yeah.
"Dear Nev and Kamie, my name is Apryl.
I am 22 and live in Montreal."
This is technically our first
Canadian episode. - Oh, my God.
- "I met Daryl," D-A-R-Y-L.
Their names end with the same three letters.
Come on, that's incredible.
- Meant to be.
- "He lives in Ohio
and is an incredibly talented artist."
- ♪ Don't you want to know me better? ♪
- I met Daryl four years ago on Instagram when he sent me
a drawing he'd done of a selfie I'd posted.
- ♪ Don't you want to know me better? ♪
♪ I just want to know... ♪
- "We were just friends, but this past year
"I started to realize I want more.
"No one has ever approached me the way he did
or sent me so many sweet messages."
- ♪ Joyride with you ♪
- "His drawings make me feel appreciated and beautiful.
"Daryl makes me feel like a confident woman.
He makes me feel happy."
- ♪ I just want to know about you ♪
- "I had no reason to doubt Daryl,
"and our relationship was growing.
"But in the past few months,
"some strange things have been happening.
"First, I got a weird DM from Daryl's sister
"that Daryl told me to ignore.
Then his social media started to deactivate"...
♪ ♪
"And then reappear."
- ♪ Joyride ♪
- "I asked him what was going on with that,
"and he said he needed to disappear for a while
but wouldn't say why."
- He's going to jail.
- "It all makes me nervous.
"I don't have the best luck with men in general,
and I think of him as my one shining star."
- ♪ Joyride ♪
- "Thank you, Apryl."
- ♪ Joyride ♪
- I am going to put in my first guess
and say that Daryl
is in jail.
- He's not in jail, come on.
- Yes, you think you don't have access
to a pen and a paper to make drawings in jail?
You do, and you can also get on Instagram.
There's social media.
- All right, well, let's text her.
Ah, it's been so long since I texted
an international number.
"It's Nev from 'Catfish.' Just read your email.
Jump in our Zoom."
- ♪ Apryl showers bring May flowers ♪
[computer chimes] - Oh.
- Hello.
- Hey. - Hi.
- What's up? - Look how beautiful.
I love the tattoos. - Yeah.
- Thank you.
- Are you in school, work?
- Work almost every day.
- What do you do?
- I manage a dépanneur,
so "convenience store"
for any non-French speakers.
- Dépann--dépanneur.
[French accent] Dépanneur.
[normal voice] My French is trash.
[laughs]
- So that's cool. And so we read your email,
but there's not a lot of information in there.
We want to know the whole story,
and kind of give us the details.
- So the first time Daryl
ever made contact with me,
it was through Instagram.
The way he approached me
is not how any guy usually approaches me.
Like, really sweet and not so direct.
And he had taken it upon himself
to draw a selfie that I had posted.
♪ ♪
So kind of nice,
kind of creepy, a little bit,
because I had no idea who he was.
- Did he ever explain how and why he found you?
- No, in the first few years,
honestly, it was just kind of like a little back-and-forth.
Like, any time that I would post a picture that he liked,
he would draw it and send it to me when it was done.
And I was obviously really appreciative.
But I would say it was more in the past year
that we kind of got a bit closer
and started talking more on a daily basis.
- How many drawings would you say he did of you
over the course of those three years?
- Around 10, 15 maybe?
I got to a point-- I just started sending him,
like, my favorite selfies,
and he would do the drawing for me.
- You're his muse.
- He does say that to me all the time.
[chuckles]
- He's like Jack, and you're Rose.
- Draw me like one of your French girls.
Oh!
- Have you sent him a nude to draw?
- I've never directly sent him one,
but I do have an OnlyFans
which he is subscribed to, so...
- Wow! [laughs] - Ohh!
Did he draw that?
- He did.
- [gasps]
- Wow. Has he sent any sexy photos of him?
- No. - Interesting.
Why haven't you guys FaceTimed or something?
- I mean, I've asked.
It's kind of just been brushed off,
and I feel like if I push too hard,
he can just "disappear."
Like, he has deleted
parts of his social media in the past,
so it's really kind of a touchy thing.
- He deactivated his social media
a bunch of times-- what happened with that?
- A couple weeks ago, actually,
I went to go search up the page,
the page is just gone.
- Is that profile still down?
- No, it's back.
He usually just tells me
he needed a break from social media.
- Okay, that could be true.
But have you guys been texting?
- I mean, we text on Instagram.
- But do you have his phone number?
- I don't.
- Wait, so, for four years, you've been talking
just through Instagram and OnlyFans.
- Yeah.
- So you've never heard his voice
or seen him in a video. - No.
- Interesting. - [laughs]
- [laughing]
- Oh, boy.
- Something's definitely up,
'cause, like, in your email, you mentioned something about,
you got a weird DM from Daryl
telling you to ignore another message.
What was that all about?
- I had got a DM
from somebody that I didn't know.
And it was just a Facebook link
in the message, so when I clicked on it,
it brought me to, like, some Facebook group.
And I saw in their followers that Daryl was one of them.
♪ ♪
When I went and confronted Daryl about it,
he said, "Oh, you know, that's just my sister.
Ignore the message."
- So did you respond, and have you had
any communication with the sister?
- No. - Weird.
♪ ♪
- Can I see a picture of Daryl?
I'm just so curious now.
- Yeah. - All right, hold on.
I'm gonna bring him up on Instagram.
What's his Instagram? - It's "darylartshow."
- Is that him? - Yes.
- Cool.
This is him, right?
- Yes.
Fits into my type, I guess you could say.
- Mm-hmm.
- What's this?
"My dad in the paper."
Wait a second.
So this is his dad.
- Allegedly.
- This--wait, this was just a few days ago.
- Yeah. - Huh.
Is this you? - That is me.
- [gasps] Oh, wow.
- [chuckling]
Oh, boy.
- Is that you also?
- That is not me, actually. - Okay.
- Do you ever get jealous when he draws other girls?
- I mean, kind of... [chuckles] Low-key.
I'm used to being the muse, you know, so...
- But even his, like, follower to following count
looks normal.
Like, the page looks very--
If it is a catfish, it's very convincing.
I don't know what to think. - Yeah, questions.
- Well, what is it about this guy?
Because I know you have other guys fawning after you.
So what is it about Daryl?
- I mean, it's really different.
There's not anyone who actually cares
about how I'm doing.
He's just there every time I need it, you know?
Like, the fact that somebody would spend so much time
making drawings of me,
someone that they've never even met.
It's just insane to me.
You know, he always says if I lived closer,
I would be wifed up already, so...
- Wow. - [laughs]
- Right now are you not looking to meet another guy
because you think that
something will happen with Daryl?
- I mean, yeah.
That's kind of the dream
if it can be possible,
but kind of need to know
so I can move on
either with him still in my life
or cutting him out of it.
- Obviously, we don't have a phone number,
but we have his Instagram.
We have that picture he posted of his dad.
But send us whatever information you have.
Let us see what we can find out.
And hopefully get one step closer
to finally meeting this guy.
- Hopefully. - All right.
- Talk later, Apryl.
- Thank you.
- Oh, she's sweet.
- What do you think? Is this guy legit?
- [sighs] I don't know.
- He could just be
a [bleep]boy artist in Akron
who just has a couple different
sexy ladies around who he draws pictures of...
- Mm-hmm. - And they send him sexy pics,
and he's just not looking to commit.
- That's what I fear, yeah. - That's kind of
the vibe I'm getting.
If he is legit,
maybe there's a chance it can work out.
And if he's not,
Apryl needs to know because I don't want
to see her get her heart broken.
- Exactly.
Something tells me in my spirit
that Apryl is not the only one.
- And after four years,
she deserves to know the truth.
[upbeat music]
[computer chimes]
♪ ♪
- Investigate, investigate,
investigate, investigate. [laughs]
- All right. So what do we got?
Apryl has been talking to Daryl for four years.
Apryl got a message saying,
"Hey, I drew a picture from one of your photos."
She, of course, was flattered
because it was this very beautiful drawing.
Now, in the last year,
she's been starting to really think
that maybe there could be something more with this guy
The problem is he's been shady.
He won't give her his phone number.
- Mm-hmm. - So they only can communicate
through Instagram or, I guess, OnlyFans.
- I think he's in jail.
Or he's a player
and he should be in jail. - [laughs]
- I'm sticking to it till I'm proven wrong.
- Apryl sent us another email.
"I've sent you what you asked for on Daryl.
I also included a screengrab of the DM his sister sent me."
- All right, so here's his Instagram,
which we've already seen. - And we know his dad's name.
- To me, that's the craziest thing.
I feel like we've never had someone
we're investigating as a catfish
post a news article identifying their dad.
- Right. - So we've already
looked through his Instagram.
But let's take a closer look at the page.
What's this video?
So that's her. - Yeah.
- I mean, you wouldn't be able to take a video
of a drawing like this
if you weren't physically there.
- Mm-hmm. - So, if whoever's
running this account isn't the one drawing it,
like, is he paying someone
to draw them for him?
It feels like this guy is the artist.
This account feels pretty legit.
Let's for a moment just assume this is his artwork.
So that means that this is his dad,
Danny [bleep].
Let's just do a Google search for his dad.
This looks like it's his Facebook page.
Yeah, all right.
Here's the dad.
- I mean, if Daryl has Facebook,
then I'm sure his dad is friends with him.
- Right, well, that's--yeah.
both: Daryl [bleep].
- Boom.
So he's got an active Facebook, which is interesting,
'cause she was under the impression
that he didn't. - Mm-hmm.
- He's got pictures on here-- I mean, they're similar
to the ones that he's posted elsewhere.
But there aren't any drawings of Apryl.
So his Facebook sort of presents him
as a bit of a playa.
But this seems like a Facebook page
that's been up for a while.
It's got a lot of comments.
People engaging with it.
Seems like this is the guy.
- But then that makes me worried,
because this seems like
he's just not as into Apryl as she's into him.
- Yeah. Well, so what should we do?
- I feel like we could just hit up Daryl.
I don't see why we have
to beat around the bush. - Right.
- Maybe we don't put Apryl's name in it
because maybe there's multiple girls
that he's talking to.
I would hit him with a generic
"Hey, Daryl, working on an episode
and could use your help."
Everyone wants to write back
when they think that they're gonna be helpful.
- Let's also send the same message
to his Facebook just in case.
All right, so now what? What else can we do?
I don't think there's anything else we can look at, right?
Wait a second-- there's one more thing,
which is the weird screengrab
of the message from the "sister,"
Candace, and she sent Apryl a link to a Facebook group.
All right, hold on. I'm gonna type in
this Facebook page.
"You're not alone.
"A place where you can make friends
and share feelings without being judged."
Candace is the person who's creating all the posts.
I mean, it seems just like a nice
sort of help group page.
Here's her Facebook page.
Not a lot on here. Or we just can't see it.
- Oh, no, you can't trust a Bitmoji bitch.
- [chuckles]
Let's look up the Instagram that sent Apryl that link.
Here it is.
Oh, wait a second. So Someone's drawing.t.
That's him.
- [gasps] - So they obviously do
know each other.
- Could it just be that
Daryl's sister was sending the link
to all of the people that her brother follows?
- Whoa, ah! - Oh!
- Daryl wrote us back.
"Hey."
- Oh, my God, I'm nervous. He's looking.
He's looking right now.
- "You're welcome." Okay.
- [gasps] Oh, no!
It's Candace. - Why is Candace on his page?
- Ooh!
Ah, yes.
- Oh, my God, oh, my God. Oh, my God, oh, my God.
[computer chimes] [gasps]
- Hey. - Hi.
- Hello, hi.
- Welcome.
- So you're Daryl's sister, right?
- Yeah, that's my brother.
- Got it. - Right. Question--
why were you in Daryl's Instagram?
- Because...
I handle his financial side to his art.
- I see, and he gets booked a lot through Instagram?
- Yes. - Got it.
Do you talk to people on his Instagram account
other than clients?
- No, I'm only there to handle the financial.
- Hmm. - Okay.
Where's he at?
- He's at work currently.
- 'Cause, basically,
there's a lovely young woman, Apryl,
who was excited at the possibility
of finally meeting him, but he doesn't
want to talk on the phone or video-chat.
Now, is that just typical behavior
because Daryl just doesn't like doing those things?
- Um, he can be, in a sense, his own character, so...
- And what about you? Are you in a relationship?
- No. - Okay.
- Candace, the only reason
we were aware of you was because
Apryl mentioned that
you had actually sent her a message
with a link to the Facebook page
that I believe you started,
which was like a support group page?
- No.
- No, you did not send that message?
- My page--my page got hacked.
- Oh.
- Wait, so--okay.
So did you make a "You Are Not Alone"
Facebook group?
- Yes.
- But you were not the one on Instagram
that was sending the link out to different people?
- I do not recall
sending the link out.
- Okay, interesting.
Look, Candace,
you can understand that to us,
it appears that talking to Apryl all this time.
- No. [chuckles]
No, it's not--not me.
- Well-- - Got it.
- I mean, it-- [computer chimes]
- Oh.
♪ ♪
Wait.
- Candace, are you still here?
- Is she coming back or, like--
What--what just happened?
What the [bleep] is going on?
- [laughs] - Where did she go?
- Oh, she's typing, she's typing.
She said her Zoom crashed.
- Her phone died.
- She said that she'll get in touch with Daryl.
- I mean, look, something is definitely up.
Maybe Candace made an Instagram account for him.
- [gasps] - And he doesn't even
necessarily know that they exist.
- [softly] That's a possibility.
Maybe Candace finds, like, the muses and stuff like that
and has him draw these people.
That's why Apryl hasn't talked to him on the phone
because it's Candace.
And that's not gonna go over well with Apryl.
- Kamie.
[upbeat music]
There she is. [computer chimes]
We got an exciting cliffhanger here.
It feels as though we've established
that Daryl's a real guy. - Mm-hmm.
- And he's an artist, and he's also the guy
in those pictures. - Right.
- Of course, then we get the curveball
of the person who responds
to the DM we sent to Daryl
is Daryl's sister Candace.
- I don't know how Apryl is gonna feel about it, but--
- Let's get Apryl back on Zoom
and see what's going on with her.
[computer chimes]
- Bonjour! - Bonjour.
- How are you?
- I'm good.
Excited, nervous, but I'm good.
- Well, we have a little bit of an update.
- Yeah. - Okay.
- We've got some interesting information here.
So let me share my screen,
and we'll kind of walk you through
everything that we found.
- Okay. - Okay.
So this is Daryl's Instagram.
We looked through it more closely,
and we found that the guy in this picture
is definitely the guy making the art,
from what we can tell. - Okay.
- So our first instinct was,
let's find out more about this guy.
Is this really his dad?
Is there a connection between them?
What can we discover?
So we just did a search for Danny [bleep].
And so when we found Danny's Facebook page,
our first thought was, let's see
if maybe he's friends with his son.
So we just searched the dad's Facebook for Daryl,
and bam.
A page came up.
Now, you had said you didn't think
Daryl had a Facebook page. - Yeah.
- Well, this one matches
all of the posts and pictures, and, so, like, this clearly
is his Facebook page. - Mm-hmm.
- So that just seemed a little weird.
Like, well, why wouldn't you know about this
when this one's clearly active?
- Yeah, exactly.
- Strange. - Yeah.
- Does this sound like him?
Do you recognize his language
and his sort of style in these posts?
- I mean, to be honest,
I'm reading these, and, like,
it's really not the same type of things
that he would say in a conversation with me
or that I see him post on his Instagram.
Like, it's a little more, I guess, vulgar and intense.
- So I'm not sure what's going on with that.
At this point,
we figured we might as well
send him a message on his Facebook,
but we still haven't heard back.
Then we remembered that you had mentioned
that weird message you got...
- Yeah. - From someone who
Daryl later identified to you as his sister.
- Yeah. - All right.
And her name was Candace. - Mm-hmm.
- So we went to the Instagram page
that sent you that message.
There's a video of Daryl drawing on it,
so there's a connection,
obviously, between her and him.
So, if he's real
and if he's not lying or hiding anything,
then there's no reason that we shouldn't just
send him a message. - Yeah.
- So we sent Daryl a message on Instagram,
and right away Daryl wrote back.
"Hey."
And then I got this message...
- What?
- Yeah. - So strange.
- Oh, my God.
- So I was like, "Any chance you can jump in a Zoom?"
At which point, Candace
comes in the Zoom. - What?
- So we asked her-- why is she responding
to his DMs? - Uh-huh.
- And in a very awkward way, she said,
"Oh, well, I handle
"his financial sort of business dealings.
"'Cause he gets requests from people
"to buy art or commission work,
so I handle that for him."
- Hmm, okay. - Weird.
- Then it came up, I said,
"Well, oh, you know--
"you actually know Apryl, too, because
you sent her a message." - Mm-hmm.
- And she said, "No, I didn't."
And I was like, "Well, we know you did
because it came from your Instagram account."
And she said, "Oh, I got hacked and
locked out of that account." - That doesn't make any sense.
- None of it made sense.
The weirdest part to me was,
we're in the middle of talking to her about you,
and all of a sudden,
she disappears off the Zoom.
She was just gone.
No call back. She didn't come back in.
But she messaged us.
- She just wrote back, "I'll talk to Daryl
and get back to you."
So I hate to say it,
but there's a strong possibility
that Candace is the person you're talking to.
- Wow, okay. [laughs]
Um, I was not prepared for that.
- Maybe Daryl's never been on the Instagram account.
Maybe she's been the one who started the account
and has been running the account the entire time
and he isn't a social media person.
Maybe he just has Facebook.
- And the language that he used on his Facebook,
which you hadn't seen... - Yeah.
- Is a little different and doesn't sound like Daryl
because that's not who you're talking to.
[thoughtful music]
- [exhales sharply]
Okay. - And the fact that
you haven't talked to him on the phone
and that he hasn't wanted to video-chat,
well, to me, that means
that there's something about his voice
or the way he looks
that he doesn't want you to know.
And so, if you're Candace
and you have a very, very different voice
than what you'd expect,
that would explain not getting on the phone.
♪ ♪
because I had no idea - Tthat she was even-- me
that she even had access to his account.
So that's why I'm so confused.
♪ ♪
And the question in my mind is, like, has it been her
that I've been DMing every single time?
- ♪ The ones we love are the ones who hurt us ♪
- And I feel like it's been so long
and I've gone through so many, like, emotions...
and I'm thinking of all the messages I've sent
that I thought I was speaking to him,
if I was actually speaking and nto Candace.know
- ♪ Trust no one ♪
- This is freaking me out.
- Are you all right, Apryl?
- I'm just confused. [chuckles]
♪ ♪
His sister having read the Instagram from me
is just--
that completely changed my whole perspective
on everything. - Right.
- Now, the question in my mind is, like,
has it been her that I've been DMing every single time?
- Right. - Because for you guys,
it's, "Yeah, it's Candace," but me, it's supposedly Daryl.
- Yeah.
- So right now I'm--I'm kind of pissed off, actually.
And I want some explanations.
- Well, going by the evidence that we've been able to get,
there's a strong possibility
that Candace is the person you're talking to.
- Wow. - But, like, at the moment,
we're just sort of stuck at this weird spot,
because if Candace is behind Daryl's Instagram,
who knows what her motives or real feelings are?
- Right. - Unless Candace is ready
I mean, she was very quick and eager to talk to us yesterday.
So I'm gonna send another message to Daryl's Instagram.
"Anyone there?" I'll just say "Anyone there?"
- Me and Daryl, we've said things to each other like,
"Oh, um, you know,
"if we lived closer, we would get married.
Like, I would be with you in a second."
Like, I'm still thinking that I was having
those conversations with Candace.
It's just...
[computer pops] - Oh, I got a DM.
- "Yes," okay.
- Candace for 500, Alex.
They're quick, wow.
Candace, I knew it!
- But why is it always Candace?
This is freaking me out.
- If it's Candace every time we send a message,
probably Candace when you send a message.
- Oh, my God.
- Let me guess-- he said he doesn't want
to be a part of the show.
[suspenseful music]
♪ ♪
[clicks tongue] Of course.
- What did he say?
♪ ♪
- Oh...
♪ ♪
- The suspense is killing me.
♪ ♪
- This is very weird.
- I get that...
♪ ♪
"Apryl is understandably confused."
- Apryl, if Daryl doesn't show up today,
are you still willing to talk to whoever
you're talking to?
- It's been so long,
and I've gone through so many, like, emotions,
I don't see why, after everything,
you would just not show up. - Right.
♪ ♪
You see what she wrote?
- Yeah.
- Oh, God, what is she writing now?
♪ ♪
- What? She stopped.
♪ ♪
- [inhales deeply]
♪ ♪
I am sweating.
Gosh.
I'm really freaking out
over here, to be honest. - Yeah.
- I wasn't expecting a lot of the things that I found out,
so now my mind has just been kind of racing ever since.
- If it is Candace,
she has a lot of explaining to do.
- Yeah. - Yeah.
- And if Daryl knew about it the whole time, so does he.
- Oh, yeah.
- There's... [computer chimes]
No new message--oh.
[suspenseful music]
- Oh, my goodness.
- I am sweating. - Yeah.
- I'm really freaking out over here.
[computer chimes] - Oh.
[suspenseful music]
♪ ♪
- Daryl!
- What up? - [chuckles]
- What's up, man?
- Wow.
- It's real. - Hi.
- What's up, bro?
- I don't believe it.
- Oh, my gosh. - What's up, Apryl?
- Wait, so hold on a second.
We're all very confused,
'cause you're obviously you.
- For sure, for sure. - [laughs]
- But when I DM'd you, Candace wrote back.
- Ooh, yeah. - So what's up with that?
Why is Candace in your DMs?
- All right, she handles certain drawings, like these.
- Handled? What do you mean handled?
- Like, the prices.
Like, she gives out the prices for the art and [bleep], so...
That's all she be doing in there.
- But she's still in there.
- Oh.
Only for the holiday, 'cause I was super busy,
so I had her in there for November, December
just to handle these new commissions--
business, art stuff. - Okay.
- That's it.
She don't read no messages from me and Apryl or nothing.
That's just me. Swear to God.
Stay out of that. It's just between me and her.
- So you told Canace specifically,
"If it's this girl, Apryl, do not respond."
- Oh, yeah, for sure.
[keys clacking]
- Obviously, you can understand, right?
Like, I messaged you, and she wrote back
and said, "Oh, this is Candace. I'm on his page."
We thought Apryl had been talking
to your sister the whole time.
- Oh, no. Hell, no.
- Well, okay, what's up with Candace messaging Apryl
on Instagram?
And you told Apryl to ignore it.
- Oh, yeah, because her page is hacked.
She told me that--
'cause that page is sending random messages to people.
I don't know why.
It sent a link to a Facebook group
that Candace started.
- That page got hacked or something.
She told me it's hacked, and she can't--
no access to it or something.
So she made a new Facebook. - Huh.
So you're telling me
that the only person who Apryl has ever communicated with
is you, and that's that. - Oh, yeah, for sure, 100%.
that Candace never responded to Apryl's messages,
since she responded to my message?
- I trust her. She not going in there.
I would've shut all that down if she even sent one message.
I would've shut all that [bleep] down.
- All right. - 'Cause I'm the first one
to see her messages.
I make sure, I'm like, "Oh, [bleep], she's messaging me?
All right, quick, every time.
It's me.
- Okay, I'm happy to hear that.
What's then confusing to me
is just that it is you,
and it has been you talking to Apryl this whole time.
Why so shady? Why don't you give her your phone number
or video-chat or...? - Oh, yeah.
- What's up with that?
- I ain't think she wanted to talk to me like that.
I didn't really know that she
was, like, feeling me at all, to be honest.
Even if I was just drawing you or whatever,
I could be just another creepy-ass dude.
I know you got a lot of attention.
You bad, so I'm like, I'm gonna come different a little bit
with the art and see if she like it or whatever.
- Right, but she did. She liked it.
You guys have been friends now for years,
and I think-- at least she feels
that it's been made pretty clear
that you're more than friends or could be more than friends.
- I want to. I want to.
That's why I'm here.
[warm music]
♪ ♪
- So we found that you do have a Facebook page.
- Yep. - But you're not friends
with her on that Facebook page.
- Oh, yeah, I'm not. - Any reason?
- I ain't want to be creepy. I ain't want to be a stalker.
I don't know. I don't want to be weird.
- I want to know--
you know, you draw a lot of girls on your page.
Like, there's a lot of different people that you--
Why is that?
- 'Cause I'm only focused on her right now.
- I mean, Apryl is, like, bursting at the seams.
She's so happy.
And you look like you are, too.
You're both nervous, by the way,
so just putting it out there. - Yeah, I'm nervous.
- I'm just in shock right now. [laughs]
I haven't said a word in the past five minutes
'cause I'm just in shock. [giggles]
- What do you like about Apryl so much?
- Like, she motivate the [bleep] out of me.
Beautiful [bleep] body. Like, I'm looking.
It's just like a dream right now.
- But what has been keeping you
from seeing her this entire time?
- Yeah, a lot. I was going through it for a little bit.
Money problems.
Work was kind of slow 'cause, like, corona.
Just couldn't stack up quick enough.
I couldn't do what I wanted to do.
I was getting depressed.
- I think it's fair.
The last years hasn't exactly been the most ideal
period of time to, you know, meet up with someone
who lives far away and in another country.
I get that, but crazy to me that you wouldn't have said,
like, "Yo, we should talk on the phone."
- Or just text from your actual phone number.
Why can't she have your phone number?
- [chuckles] I thought about it.
I always think about it, but like I said,
I didn't think she was gonna want it.
So I'm like--I didn't ask. I just didn't.
- Well, look, I obviously would love to let you guys talk,
but before we do that, I have some questions.
Daryl, if I could chat with you.
Kamie, if you could talk with Apryl for a second.
- Yeah. - All right.
- Okay.
[computer chimes] - No boys allowed.
[both laugh]
- Whew.
Oh, my gosh.
[both laughing]
- How do you feel? What do you think?
- I have no words.
I almost cried when he pulled up on the screen, like...
I was not expecting that.
- And he's so into you.
- When I met him, I had no words.
I didn't know what to say
because my brain just kind of went, mm.
- All I kept seeing was you being, like...
- Just trying to make myself breathe,
let the oxygen flow through to the brain, you know.
I'm just excited for him to come back in the chat.
[both laughs] - I know.
You're like, "Get the [bleep] out of here, Kamie.
I'm trying to spit game." I get it. it's fine.
- I feel like a little girl.
- Hey. - Hey, man.
- What's up? - So this is great.
- Yeah, I'm excited. Yeah. [chuckles]
- It's just, again, and I kind of mentioned it before,
but after all these years
and talking to her pretty much every day
and her clearly flirting,
like, you didn't pick up on enough signals to say, like,
"Okay, I think this girl's into me."
She described it almost like you were avoiding her
or pushing her away.
So it just seems like there's something
you might not be saying.
I just want to make sure you don't feel
like there's any weird pressure or expectation
for you to say something or feel a certain way
and that you really do like her.
- Yeah, well...
I kind of understand why she felt like that
'cause I kind of was pushing her away.
[dramatic music]
- What do you think that was about?
- [sighs]
♪ ♪
- I kind of was pushing her away.
- What do you think that was about?
- [sighs]
[dramatic music]
- At first, I was...
like, shy.
Like, I used to be, like, super shy.
I used to not be able to look people in the eye.
I couldn't even make eye contact,
like, a couple years ago. - Okay.
- I'm hard on myself, if you can't tell already.
- Have you had, like, a serious girlfriend
in the recent past?
- Oh, no.
- No, I've never been in any relationships.
Never kissed a girl. - Oh, really?
So you've never been in love, then, I guess.
- No, not yet.
- Have you tried dating people? Have people wanted to date you?
Or is it just, like, not happening?
- I mean, see...
I had chances, but I kind of avoided all of them.
- Mainly just out of shyness and insecurity?
- Yeah. I haven't tried in a long time.
- So hitting on women or asking a girl out
and making your feelings known
is not something that you have a lot of experience with.
- Yeah, I have no experience, beside Apryl.
I really do like her, though. - Right.
And she told us she really likes you.
She's super into you. - I didn't--
- You didn't know that. - I didn't know that.
No, I didn't. - Okay.
That makes a lot more sense now.
Well, I mean, that's exciting. - Mm-hmm, it is.
[laughs] - You think you can handle her?
- Yeah, I can handle it. That's why I'm here.
- So, I mean, are you ready
to formally sort of ask her to go out with you?
- Yeah, I will. I know I will.
- 'Cause she's been hoping
that something would happen with you guys.
So she's, like-- - I didn't even know that.
- No, right, you didn't realize that.
But Apryl's a beautiful young woman,
and if she doesn't get the impression
that you're serious about moving forward, you know,
she might have to start looking for someone else to date.
I just want you to know that, like, you've got a chance
to make something happen.
- Yeah, I'm excited. Yeah.
I'd love to just let you -guys talk for a minute,.
if that's cool. - That's cool.
- So I'm gonna bring them back in.
- All right.
[upbeat music]
[computer chimes] Alright, guys.
We just want to let you guys talk for a minute.
And, Apryl, you let me know
when a good time to kind of come back in would be.
- Okay. - All right.
- See you.
- What's up, bae? - Hey.
[chuckles] - Man...
- This is so weird.
It's just crazy that, like,
you're in front of me right now.
The second I saw you pop up on the screen,
I almost cried, like...
[both laugh] - Me too.
- I was just so happy, like... - It's like a real dream.
It's like, I'm happy as [bleep], though,
even though I'm nervous as [bleep] right now.
My anxiety's going crazy right now.
- But that's another thing, though.
That's, like--I'm a really insecure person, too
Like, I know I put out this super-confident persona,
but, like, I'm a really insecure person.
Like, yeah, I know I post a lot of nice-looking pictures,
but, like, you don't really see 100% of me, you know?
Like, there's a lot of editing.
There's a lot of posing in certain ways, you know.
- Right, I understand all that, but it don't even matter.
[chuckles]
- I've been going for my whole life basically,
like, kind of feeling, I guess, underappreciated
by most men that I come into contact with, you know,
and it's, like, sexual right away.
It's like disrespect, you know?
- Yeah, I'm different. - I see that.
- I been single my whole life.
- You've been single your whole life?
- Yep. Never kissed a girl.
- Damn.
Why, though?
- I ain't even really want none.
I wasn't really interested
till, like, two years ago.
I'm like...
- Damn.
- Somehow, you have me motivated.
You inspire me. It's like a spark for some reason.
Like, I get anxiety when I send you messages.
Like, I be nervous. Like, I don't know if she got feelings.
Like, just something about you just had me, like...
stuck on you.
- [chuckles] [bleep].
- [chuckles]
- I don't even know what to say.
Like... - Since day one.
I've been in love, for real.
I ain't never been in love either.
But I know, when I see you,
I get a feeling that I never felt before, so...
I just know.
- Oh, my gosh. [laughs]
[inhales deeply]
Like, how are you real?
[both laugh]
- I don't believe this right now.
Actually, this is amazing.
- [sniffles] Oh, [bleep].
- [chuckles]
- I think I'm gonna tell them to come back before...
- All right. [both laughing]
- Ooh.
Oh, my gosh.
♪ ♪
[computer chimes]
- So what did we miss? - [chuckles]
Everything good? - Yeah, everything good.
- Everything is great, yeah.
- I'm still in shock that it's not Candace.
I-I... Wow. Okay.
We were wrong, Nev. We were wrong.
- So, look, this is, you know, rare for us on the show,
but all the more reason to celebrate and be happy.
And I just want to make sure
that we all take one sort of formal step
towards you guys now moving forward.
So, at the very least,
can you guys give each other your numbers so that, like...?
- Oh, yeah. - Please.
- So I say it now? - Yeah, tell her.
- 330...
[bleep].
[cell phone chimes] - Oh.
- Deliver. - I got it.
- Okay.
All right, so we've now got phone contact.
All right, well, this is great.
You know, I really think you guys have a lot in common.
You clearly have a good foundation of friendship
and respect for one another,
which, you know, is a great place to start, so...
I don't know what to tell you guys
other than get to it, good luck.
Have fun. - So who's going where?
Daryl, are you going to Montreal?
Apryl, are you going to Ohio?
Like, what is the tea? What's the plan?
- I'm leaving.
- So you're ready to fly up there?
- Yep.
- I got a ton of frequent flyer points.
So you tell me as soon as that can happen,
and I will make sure it happens.
- Today. [laughter]
He's like, "Tonight."
- Thank you, guys, so much for this.
- I guess that's it for us. - Yep.
- Bye, guys.
- Bye. - Bye.
- Michael's been talking to this guy Dustin.
He's been stood up by Dustin five times.
- Michael. - If you have been lying,
I'm onto you. - He's married.
- What's uglier than possible divorce?
- We have an address in, like, part of downtown.
- I'll go check it out. - Turn right on Hope.
- Ooh, that is a warehouse.
What?