1 00:00:01,335 --> 00:00:03,369 - Apryl got a message from Daryl saying, 2 00:00:03,437 --> 00:00:05,371 "Hey, I drew a picture from your photos." 3 00:00:05,439 --> 00:00:08,273 - The fact that somebody would spend so much time 4 00:00:08,342 --> 00:00:10,075 making drawings of me. 5 00:00:10,144 --> 00:00:11,310 - You're his muse. 6 00:00:11,379 --> 00:00:13,412 - He does say that to me all the time. 7 00:00:13,481 --> 00:00:14,913 - But you've never heard his voice 8 00:00:14,982 --> 00:00:16,715 or seen him in a video. - No. 9 00:00:16,784 --> 00:00:20,352 - I want to just start with a search of his profile. 10 00:00:20,421 --> 00:00:22,788 - [gasps] - Something is definitely up. 11 00:00:22,857 --> 00:00:24,556 - What the [bleep] is going on? 12 00:00:24,625 --> 00:00:26,592 - I'm really freaking out over here. 13 00:00:26,660 --> 00:00:28,327 [computer chimes] Oh, my goodness. 14 00:00:28,396 --> 00:00:31,163 [dramatic musical sting] 15 00:00:31,232 --> 00:00:34,133 [cheesy upbeat music] 16 00:00:34,201 --> 00:00:40,105 ♪ ♪ 17 00:00:41,842 --> 00:00:44,676 [computer chimes] - What is happening here? 18 00:00:44,745 --> 00:00:45,978 - I don't know. I just found this 19 00:00:46,047 --> 00:00:47,413 over in the corner under that table, 20 00:00:47,481 --> 00:00:49,515 and I thought could be a good look for me. 21 00:00:49,583 --> 00:00:51,150 - What is it supposed to be? 22 00:00:51,218 --> 00:00:52,317 - It's a chair. I guess it's supposed 23 00:00:52,386 --> 00:00:54,219 to be for, like, people with back pain. 24 00:00:54,288 --> 00:00:55,587 It encourages good posture. 25 00:00:55,656 --> 00:00:57,489 I'm kind of into it. I think I'm gonna try it out. 26 00:00:57,558 --> 00:00:59,625 - You look like you're riding passenger seat 27 00:00:59,693 --> 00:01:00,859 on Santa's sleigh. 28 00:01:00,928 --> 00:01:02,127 [both laugh] 29 00:01:02,196 --> 00:01:03,529 - Yeah, all right. 30 00:01:03,597 --> 00:01:06,498 While you enjoy your breakfast bowl, 31 00:01:06,567 --> 00:01:09,802 I'm going to open up the old mail app. 32 00:01:09,870 --> 00:01:10,769 - Ready. 33 00:01:10,838 --> 00:01:13,105 - Oh, an email from Apryl. - Hmm. 34 00:01:13,174 --> 00:01:14,807 A-P-R-Y-L. - The subject-- 35 00:01:14,875 --> 00:01:19,378 "Has it been four years of lies?" 36 00:01:19,447 --> 00:01:21,313 - Probably. - Yeah. 37 00:01:21,382 --> 00:01:23,515 "Dear Nev and Kamie, my name is Apryl. 38 00:01:23,584 --> 00:01:26,985 I am 22 and live in Montreal." 39 00:01:27,054 --> 00:01:28,120 This is technically our first 40 00:01:28,189 --> 00:01:30,189 Canadian episode. - Oh, my God. 41 00:01:30,257 --> 00:01:33,592 - "I met Daryl," D-A-R-Y-L. 42 00:01:33,661 --> 00:01:35,427 Their names end with the same three letters. 43 00:01:35,496 --> 00:01:37,096 Come on, that's incredible. 44 00:01:37,164 --> 00:01:38,363 - Meant to be. 45 00:01:38,432 --> 00:01:39,765 - "He lives in Ohio 46 00:01:39,834 --> 00:01:42,468 and is an incredibly talented artist." 47 00:01:42,536 --> 00:01:46,205 - ♪ Don't you want to know me better? ♪ 48 00:01:46,273 --> 00:01:49,508 - I met Daryl four years ago on Instagram when he sent me 49 00:01:49,577 --> 00:01:53,512 a drawing he'd done of a selfie I'd posted. 50 00:01:53,581 --> 00:01:57,449 - ♪ Don't you want to know me better? ♪ 51 00:01:57,518 --> 00:01:58,750 ♪ I just want to know... ♪ 52 00:01:58,819 --> 00:02:00,986 - "We were just friends, but this past year 53 00:02:01,055 --> 00:02:03,388 "I started to realize I want more. 54 00:02:03,457 --> 00:02:06,191 "No one has ever approached me the way he did 55 00:02:06,260 --> 00:02:08,894 or sent me so many sweet messages." 56 00:02:08,963 --> 00:02:11,130 - ♪ Joyride with you ♪ 57 00:02:11,198 --> 00:02:14,233 - "His drawings make me feel appreciated and beautiful. 58 00:02:14,301 --> 00:02:17,202 "Daryl makes me feel like a confident woman. 59 00:02:17,271 --> 00:02:18,770 He makes me feel happy." 60 00:02:18,839 --> 00:02:23,275 - ♪ I just want to know about you ♪ 61 00:02:23,344 --> 00:02:25,210 - "I had no reason to doubt Daryl, 62 00:02:25,279 --> 00:02:27,079 "and our relationship was growing. 63 00:02:27,148 --> 00:02:28,647 "But in the past few months, 64 00:02:28,716 --> 00:02:31,950 "some strange things have been happening. 65 00:02:32,019 --> 00:02:35,320 "First, I got a weird DM from Daryl's sister 66 00:02:35,389 --> 00:02:38,390 "that Daryl told me to ignore. 67 00:02:38,459 --> 00:02:41,126 Then his social media started to deactivate"... 68 00:02:41,195 --> 00:02:42,895 ♪ ♪ 69 00:02:42,963 --> 00:02:44,296 "And then reappear." 70 00:02:44,365 --> 00:02:45,697 - ♪ Joyride ♪ 71 00:02:45,766 --> 00:02:47,900 - "I asked him what was going on with that, 72 00:02:47,968 --> 00:02:49,902 "and he said he needed to disappear for a while 73 00:02:49,970 --> 00:02:51,803 but wouldn't say why." 74 00:02:51,872 --> 00:02:53,272 - He's going to jail. 75 00:02:53,340 --> 00:02:55,140 - "It all makes me nervous. 76 00:02:55,209 --> 00:02:57,509 "I don't have the best luck with men in general, 77 00:02:57,578 --> 00:03:01,246 and I think of him as my one shining star." 78 00:03:01,315 --> 00:03:03,315 - ♪ Joyride ♪ 79 00:03:03,384 --> 00:03:05,150 - "Thank you, Apryl." 80 00:03:05,219 --> 00:03:06,652 - ♪ Joyride ♪ 81 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,421 - I am going to put in my first guess 82 00:03:09,490 --> 00:03:11,990 and say that Daryl 83 00:03:12,059 --> 00:03:13,392 is in jail. 84 00:03:13,460 --> 00:03:15,260 - He's not in jail, come on. 85 00:03:15,329 --> 00:03:17,062 - Yes, you think you don't have access 86 00:03:17,131 --> 00:03:19,798 to a pen and a paper to make drawings in jail? 87 00:03:19,867 --> 00:03:22,167 You do, and you can also get on Instagram. 88 00:03:22,236 --> 00:03:23,835 There's social media. 89 00:03:23,904 --> 00:03:25,103 - All right, well, let's text her. 90 00:03:25,172 --> 00:03:26,605 Ah, it's been so long since I texted 91 00:03:26,674 --> 00:03:28,407 an international number. 92 00:03:28,475 --> 00:03:33,111 "It's Nev from 'Catfish.' Just read your email. 93 00:03:33,180 --> 00:03:35,847 Jump in our Zoom." 94 00:03:35,916 --> 00:03:40,085 - ♪ Apryl showers bring May flowers ♪ 95 00:03:40,154 --> 00:03:41,920 [computer chimes] - Oh. 96 00:03:41,989 --> 00:03:43,622 - Hello. 97 00:03:43,691 --> 00:03:45,190 - Hey. - Hi. 98 00:03:45,259 --> 00:03:47,559 - What's up? - Look how beautiful. 99 00:03:47,628 --> 00:03:50,162 I love the tattoos. - Yeah. 100 00:03:50,231 --> 00:03:51,230 - Thank you. 101 00:03:51,298 --> 00:03:52,598 - Are you in school, work? 102 00:03:52,666 --> 00:03:54,366 - Work almost every day. 103 00:03:54,435 --> 00:03:55,500 - What do you do? 104 00:03:55,569 --> 00:03:58,003 - I manage a dépanneur, 105 00:03:58,072 --> 00:03:59,471 so "convenience store" 106 00:03:59,540 --> 00:04:02,874 for any non-French speakers. 107 00:04:02,943 --> 00:04:04,543 - Dépann--dépanneur. 108 00:04:04,612 --> 00:04:06,511 [French accent] Dépanneur. 109 00:04:06,580 --> 00:04:08,914 [normal voice] My French is trash. 110 00:04:08,983 --> 00:04:10,749 [laughs] 111 00:04:10,818 --> 00:04:12,918 - So that's cool. And so we read your email, 112 00:04:12,987 --> 00:04:15,420 but there's not a lot of information in there. 113 00:04:15,489 --> 00:04:16,755 We want to know the whole story, 114 00:04:16,824 --> 00:04:18,156 and kind of give us the details. 115 00:04:18,225 --> 00:04:20,592 - So the first time Daryl 116 00:04:20,661 --> 00:04:22,961 ever made contact with me, 117 00:04:23,030 --> 00:04:25,397 it was through Instagram. 118 00:04:25,466 --> 00:04:27,065 The way he approached me 119 00:04:27,134 --> 00:04:29,901 is not how any guy usually approaches me. 120 00:04:29,970 --> 00:04:33,472 Like, really sweet and not so direct. 121 00:04:33,540 --> 00:04:36,141 And he had taken it upon himself 122 00:04:36,210 --> 00:04:39,244 to draw a selfie that I had posted. 123 00:04:39,313 --> 00:04:41,113 ♪ ♪ 124 00:04:41,181 --> 00:04:43,515 So kind of nice, 125 00:04:43,584 --> 00:04:45,684 kind of creepy, a little bit, 126 00:04:45,753 --> 00:04:48,086 because I had no idea who he was. 127 00:04:48,155 --> 00:04:51,356 - Did he ever explain how and why he found you? 128 00:04:51,425 --> 00:04:53,158 - No, in the first few years, 129 00:04:53,227 --> 00:04:56,128 honestly, it was just kind of like a little back-and-forth. 130 00:04:56,196 --> 00:04:59,865 Like, any time that I would post a picture that he liked, 131 00:04:59,933 --> 00:05:03,101 he would draw it and send it to me when it was done. 132 00:05:03,170 --> 00:05:06,038 And I was obviously really appreciative. 133 00:05:06,106 --> 00:05:08,974 But I would say it was more in the past year 134 00:05:09,043 --> 00:05:10,942 that we kind of got a bit closer 135 00:05:11,011 --> 00:05:14,746 and started talking more on a daily basis. 136 00:05:14,815 --> 00:05:16,515 - How many drawings would you say he did of you 137 00:05:16,583 --> 00:05:18,150 over the course of those three years? 138 00:05:18,218 --> 00:05:21,086 - Around 10, 15 maybe? 139 00:05:21,155 --> 00:05:23,588 I got to a point-- I just started sending him, 140 00:05:23,657 --> 00:05:24,923 like, my favorite selfies, 141 00:05:24,992 --> 00:05:27,059 and he would do the drawing for me. 142 00:05:27,127 --> 00:05:28,393 - You're his muse. 143 00:05:28,462 --> 00:05:30,429 - He does say that to me all the time. 144 00:05:30,497 --> 00:05:32,764 [chuckles] 145 00:05:32,833 --> 00:05:34,599 - He's like Jack, and you're Rose. 146 00:05:34,668 --> 00:05:37,202 - Draw me like one of your French girls. 147 00:05:37,271 --> 00:05:38,637 Oh! 148 00:05:38,706 --> 00:05:40,439 - Have you sent him a nude to draw? 149 00:05:40,507 --> 00:05:42,607 - I've never directly sent him one, 150 00:05:42,676 --> 00:05:45,610 but I do have an OnlyFans 151 00:05:45,679 --> 00:05:47,946 which he is subscribed to, so... 152 00:05:48,015 --> 00:05:52,918 - Wow! [laughs] - Ohh! 153 00:05:52,986 --> 00:05:54,019 Did he draw that? 154 00:05:54,088 --> 00:05:55,187 - He did. 155 00:05:55,255 --> 00:05:56,555 - [gasps] 156 00:05:56,623 --> 00:05:59,458 - Wow. Has he sent any sexy photos of him? 157 00:05:59,526 --> 00:06:00,959 - No. - Interesting. 158 00:06:01,028 --> 00:06:03,562 Why haven't you guys FaceTimed or something? 159 00:06:03,630 --> 00:06:04,963 - I mean, I've asked. 160 00:06:05,032 --> 00:06:07,599 It's kind of just been brushed off, 161 00:06:07,668 --> 00:06:11,236 and I feel like if I push too hard, 162 00:06:11,305 --> 00:06:13,004 he can just "disappear." 163 00:06:13,073 --> 00:06:14,606 Like, he has deleted 164 00:06:14,675 --> 00:06:16,842 parts of his social media in the past, 165 00:06:16,910 --> 00:06:19,277 so it's really kind of a touchy thing. 166 00:06:19,346 --> 00:06:21,079 - He deactivated his social media 167 00:06:21,148 --> 00:06:23,482 a bunch of times-- what happened with that? 168 00:06:23,550 --> 00:06:26,184 - A couple weeks ago, actually, 169 00:06:26,253 --> 00:06:28,387 I went to go search up the page, 170 00:06:28,455 --> 00:06:30,522 the page is just gone. 171 00:06:30,591 --> 00:06:32,057 - Is that profile still down? 172 00:06:32,126 --> 00:06:33,225 - No, it's back. 173 00:06:33,293 --> 00:06:34,793 He usually just tells me 174 00:06:34,862 --> 00:06:37,329 he needed a break from social media. 175 00:06:37,398 --> 00:06:40,165 - Okay, that could be true. 176 00:06:40,234 --> 00:06:42,601 But have you guys been texting? 177 00:06:42,669 --> 00:06:45,570 - I mean, we text on Instagram. 178 00:06:45,639 --> 00:06:47,406 - But do you have his phone number? 179 00:06:47,474 --> 00:06:49,274 - I don't. 180 00:06:49,343 --> 00:06:51,009 - Wait, so, for four years, you've been talking 181 00:06:51,078 --> 00:06:52,944 just through Instagram and OnlyFans. 182 00:06:53,013 --> 00:06:53,879 - Yeah. 183 00:06:53,947 --> 00:06:55,046 - So you've never heard his voice 184 00:06:55,115 --> 00:06:58,350 or seen him in a video. - No. 185 00:06:58,419 --> 00:07:03,021 - Interesting. - [laughs] 186 00:07:03,090 --> 00:07:05,524 - [laughing] 187 00:07:05,592 --> 00:07:06,992 - Oh, boy. 188 00:07:07,060 --> 00:07:08,660 - Something's definitely up, 189 00:07:08,729 --> 00:07:10,962 'cause, like, in your email, you mentioned something about, 190 00:07:11,031 --> 00:07:14,032 you got a weird DM from Daryl 191 00:07:14,101 --> 00:07:16,034 telling you to ignore another message. 192 00:07:16,103 --> 00:07:17,169 What was that all about? 193 00:07:17,237 --> 00:07:19,171 - I had got a DM 194 00:07:19,239 --> 00:07:21,239 from somebody that I didn't know. 195 00:07:21,308 --> 00:07:24,643 And it was just a Facebook link 196 00:07:24,711 --> 00:07:27,112 in the message, so when I clicked on it, 197 00:07:27,181 --> 00:07:30,015 it brought me to, like, some Facebook group. 198 00:07:30,083 --> 00:07:34,586 And I saw in their followers that Daryl was one of them. 199 00:07:34,655 --> 00:07:36,154 ♪ ♪ 200 00:07:36,223 --> 00:07:38,990 When I went and confronted Daryl about it, 201 00:07:39,059 --> 00:07:42,227 he said, "Oh, you know, that's just my sister. 202 00:07:42,296 --> 00:07:43,495 Ignore the message." 203 00:07:43,564 --> 00:07:44,930 - So did you respond, and have you had 204 00:07:44,998 --> 00:07:46,598 any communication with the sister? 205 00:07:46,667 --> 00:07:47,699 - No. - Weird. 206 00:07:47,768 --> 00:07:49,000 ♪ ♪ 207 00:07:49,069 --> 00:07:51,036 - Can I see a picture of Daryl? 208 00:07:51,104 --> 00:07:52,671 I'm just so curious now. 209 00:07:52,739 --> 00:07:53,772 - Yeah. - All right, hold on. 210 00:07:53,841 --> 00:07:55,207 I'm gonna bring him up on Instagram. 211 00:07:55,275 --> 00:07:58,910 What's his Instagram? - It's "darylartshow." 212 00:07:58,979 --> 00:08:01,313 - Is that him? - Yes. 213 00:08:01,381 --> 00:08:02,314 - Cool. 214 00:08:02,382 --> 00:08:03,381 This is him, right? 215 00:08:03,450 --> 00:08:04,850 - Yes. 216 00:08:04,918 --> 00:08:08,286 Fits into my type, I guess you could say. 217 00:08:08,355 --> 00:08:09,321 - Mm-hmm. 218 00:08:09,389 --> 00:08:10,956 - What's this? 219 00:08:11,024 --> 00:08:13,124 "My dad in the paper." 220 00:08:13,193 --> 00:08:14,326 Wait a second. 221 00:08:14,394 --> 00:08:16,261 So this is his dad. 222 00:08:16,330 --> 00:08:17,729 - Allegedly. 223 00:08:17,798 --> 00:08:19,264 - This--wait, this was just a few days ago. 224 00:08:19,333 --> 00:08:21,032 - Yeah. - Huh. 225 00:08:21,101 --> 00:08:23,368 Is this you? - That is me. 226 00:08:23,437 --> 00:08:25,136 - [gasps] Oh, wow. 227 00:08:25,205 --> 00:08:27,305 - [chuckling] 228 00:08:27,374 --> 00:08:28,340 Oh, boy. 229 00:08:28,408 --> 00:08:30,141 - Is that you also? 230 00:08:30,210 --> 00:08:33,144 - That is not me, actually. - Okay. 231 00:08:33,213 --> 00:08:36,314 - Do you ever get jealous when he draws other girls? 232 00:08:36,383 --> 00:08:39,784 - I mean, kind of... [chuckles] Low-key. 233 00:08:39,853 --> 00:08:42,654 I'm used to being the muse, you know, so... 234 00:08:42,723 --> 00:08:45,257 - But even his, like, follower to following count 235 00:08:45,325 --> 00:08:46,858 looks normal. 236 00:08:46,927 --> 00:08:49,027 Like, the page looks very-- 237 00:08:49,096 --> 00:08:51,429 If it is a catfish, it's very convincing. 238 00:08:51,498 --> 00:08:53,965 I don't know what to think. - Yeah, questions. 239 00:08:54,034 --> 00:08:56,601 - Well, what is it about this guy? 240 00:08:56,670 --> 00:09:00,539 Because I know you have other guys fawning after you. 241 00:09:00,607 --> 00:09:03,041 So what is it about Daryl? 242 00:09:03,110 --> 00:09:05,644 - I mean, it's really different. 243 00:09:05,712 --> 00:09:08,880 There's not anyone who actually cares 244 00:09:08,949 --> 00:09:10,448 about how I'm doing. 245 00:09:10,517 --> 00:09:14,052 He's just there every time I need it, you know? 246 00:09:14,121 --> 00:09:17,556 Like, the fact that somebody would spend so much time 247 00:09:17,624 --> 00:09:19,925 making drawings of me, 248 00:09:19,993 --> 00:09:21,493 someone that they've never even met. 249 00:09:21,562 --> 00:09:23,194 It's just insane to me. 250 00:09:23,263 --> 00:09:25,931 You know, he always says if I lived closer, 251 00:09:25,999 --> 00:09:27,966 I would be wifed up already, so... 252 00:09:28,035 --> 00:09:29,401 - Wow. - [laughs] 253 00:09:29,469 --> 00:09:31,670 - Right now are you not looking to meet another guy 254 00:09:31,738 --> 00:09:32,971 because you think that 255 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,539 something will happen with Daryl? 256 00:09:34,608 --> 00:09:36,174 - I mean, yeah. 257 00:09:36,243 --> 00:09:38,443 That's kind of the dream 258 00:09:38,512 --> 00:09:40,145 if it can be possible, 259 00:09:40,213 --> 00:09:42,347 but kind of need to know 260 00:09:42,416 --> 00:09:43,982 so I can move on 261 00:09:44,051 --> 00:09:45,884 either with him still in my life 262 00:09:45,953 --> 00:09:47,953 or cutting him out of it. 263 00:09:48,021 --> 00:09:49,354 - Obviously, we don't have a phone number, 264 00:09:49,423 --> 00:09:51,022 but we have his Instagram. 265 00:09:51,091 --> 00:09:53,124 We have that picture he posted of his dad. 266 00:09:53,193 --> 00:09:55,160 But send us whatever information you have. 267 00:09:55,228 --> 00:09:56,728 Let us see what we can find out. 268 00:09:56,797 --> 00:09:58,463 And hopefully get one step closer 269 00:09:58,532 --> 00:10:00,465 to finally meeting this guy. 270 00:10:00,534 --> 00:10:01,766 - Hopefully. - All right. 271 00:10:01,835 --> 00:10:02,667 - All right. - Talk later, Apryl. 272 00:10:02,736 --> 00:10:04,636 - Thank you. 273 00:10:04,705 --> 00:10:06,805 - Oh, she's sweet. 274 00:10:06,873 --> 00:10:08,773 - What do you think? Is this guy legit? 275 00:10:08,842 --> 00:10:09,874 - [sighs] I don't know. 276 00:10:09,943 --> 00:10:11,476 - He could just be 277 00:10:11,545 --> 00:10:13,078 a [bleep]boy artist in Akron 278 00:10:13,146 --> 00:10:15,246 who just has a couple different 279 00:10:15,315 --> 00:10:18,083 sexy ladies around who he draws pictures of... 280 00:10:18,151 --> 00:10:20,218 - Mm-hmm. - And they send him sexy pics, 281 00:10:20,287 --> 00:10:21,987 and he's just not looking to commit. 282 00:10:22,055 --> 00:10:23,488 - That's what I fear, yeah. - That's kind of 283 00:10:23,557 --> 00:10:24,456 the vibe I'm getting. 284 00:10:24,524 --> 00:10:25,824 If he is legit, 285 00:10:25,892 --> 00:10:27,525 maybe there's a chance it can work out. 286 00:10:27,594 --> 00:10:28,927 And if he's not, 287 00:10:28,996 --> 00:10:30,562 Apryl needs to know because I don't want 288 00:10:30,631 --> 00:10:32,163 to see her get her heart broken. 289 00:10:32,232 --> 00:10:33,064 - Exactly. 290 00:10:33,133 --> 00:10:36,001 Something tells me in my spirit 291 00:10:36,069 --> 00:10:37,802 that Apryl is not the only one. 292 00:10:37,871 --> 00:10:39,137 - And after four years, 293 00:10:39,206 --> 00:10:41,473 she deserves to know the truth. 294 00:10:44,611 --> 00:10:47,512 [upbeat music] 295 00:10:47,581 --> 00:10:49,481 [computer chimes] 296 00:10:49,549 --> 00:10:52,717 ♪ ♪ 297 00:10:52,786 --> 00:10:54,753 - Investigate, investigate, 298 00:10:54,821 --> 00:10:58,056 investigate, investigate. [laughs] 299 00:10:58,125 --> 00:10:59,658 - All right. So what do we got? 300 00:10:59,726 --> 00:11:03,294 Apryl has been talking to Daryl for four years. 301 00:11:03,363 --> 00:11:04,796 Apryl got a message saying, 302 00:11:04,865 --> 00:11:06,931 "Hey, I drew a picture from one of your photos." 303 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,199 She, of course, was flattered 304 00:11:08,268 --> 00:11:10,035 because it was this very beautiful drawing. 305 00:11:10,103 --> 00:11:11,369 Now, in the last year, 306 00:11:11,438 --> 00:11:12,737 she's been starting to really think 307 00:11:12,806 --> 00:11:14,973 that maybe there could be something more with this guy 308 00:11:15,042 --> 00:11:17,042 The problem is he's been shady. 309 00:11:17,110 --> 00:11:18,543 He won't give her his phone number. 310 00:11:18,612 --> 00:11:19,644 - Mm-hmm. - So they only can communicate 311 00:11:19,713 --> 00:11:22,514 through Instagram or, I guess, OnlyFans. 312 00:11:22,582 --> 00:11:25,183 - I think he's in jail. 313 00:11:25,252 --> 00:11:26,451 Or he's a player 314 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,286 and he should be in jail. - [laughs] 315 00:11:28,355 --> 00:11:29,954 - I'm sticking to it till I'm proven wrong. 316 00:11:30,023 --> 00:11:31,289 - Apryl sent us another email. 317 00:11:31,358 --> 00:11:33,658 "I've sent you what you asked for on Daryl. 318 00:11:33,727 --> 00:11:36,795 I also included a screengrab of the DM his sister sent me." 319 00:11:36,863 --> 00:11:38,229 - All right, so here's his Instagram, 320 00:11:38,298 --> 00:11:40,098 which we've already seen. - And we know his dad's name. 321 00:11:40,167 --> 00:11:41,232 - To me, that's the craziest thing. 322 00:11:41,301 --> 00:11:43,334 I feel like we've never had someone 323 00:11:43,403 --> 00:11:45,236 we're investigating as a catfish 324 00:11:45,305 --> 00:11:48,506 post a news article identifying their dad. 325 00:11:48,575 --> 00:11:49,908 - Right. - So we've already 326 00:11:49,976 --> 00:11:51,242 looked through his Instagram. 327 00:11:51,311 --> 00:11:53,211 But let's take a closer look at the page. 328 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,380 What's this video? 329 00:11:55,449 --> 00:11:57,549 So that's her. - Yeah. 330 00:11:57,617 --> 00:11:59,951 - I mean, you wouldn't be able to take a video 331 00:12:00,020 --> 00:12:01,920 of a drawing like this 332 00:12:01,988 --> 00:12:04,389 if you weren't physically there. 333 00:12:04,458 --> 00:12:06,458 - Mm-hmm. - So, if whoever's 334 00:12:06,526 --> 00:12:09,094 running this account isn't the one drawing it, 335 00:12:09,162 --> 00:12:10,995 like, is he paying someone 336 00:12:11,064 --> 00:12:13,031 to draw them for him? 337 00:12:13,100 --> 00:12:15,567 It feels like this guy is the artist. 338 00:12:15,635 --> 00:12:18,636 This account feels pretty legit. 339 00:12:18,705 --> 00:12:21,473 Let's for a moment just assume this is his artwork. 340 00:12:21,541 --> 00:12:24,075 So that means that this is his dad, 341 00:12:24,144 --> 00:12:26,144 Danny [bleep]. 342 00:12:26,213 --> 00:12:28,747 Let's just do a Google search for his dad. 343 00:12:28,815 --> 00:12:31,549 This looks like it's his Facebook page. 344 00:12:31,618 --> 00:12:33,084 Yeah, all right. 345 00:12:33,153 --> 00:12:34,319 Here's the dad. 346 00:12:34,387 --> 00:12:36,688 - I mean, if Daryl has Facebook, 347 00:12:36,757 --> 00:12:38,890 then I'm sure his dad is friends with him. 348 00:12:38,959 --> 00:12:42,193 - Right, well, that's--yeah. 349 00:12:42,262 --> 00:12:44,095 both: Daryl [bleep]. 350 00:12:44,164 --> 00:12:46,264 - Boom. 351 00:12:46,333 --> 00:12:48,900 So he's got an active Facebook, which is interesting, 352 00:12:48,969 --> 00:12:50,735 'cause she was under the impression 353 00:12:50,804 --> 00:12:52,537 that he didn't. - Mm-hmm. 354 00:12:52,606 --> 00:12:54,239 - He's got pictures on here-- I mean, they're similar 355 00:12:54,307 --> 00:12:56,374 to the ones that he's posted elsewhere. 356 00:12:56,443 --> 00:12:59,144 But there aren't any drawings of Apryl. 357 00:13:04,284 --> 00:13:06,084 So his Facebook sort of presents him 358 00:13:06,153 --> 00:13:07,619 as a bit of a playa. 359 00:13:07,687 --> 00:13:09,220 But this seems like a Facebook page 360 00:13:09,289 --> 00:13:10,355 that's been up for a while. 361 00:13:10,423 --> 00:13:11,823 It's got a lot of comments. 362 00:13:11,892 --> 00:13:13,124 People engaging with it. 363 00:13:13,193 --> 00:13:14,959 Seems like this is the guy. 364 00:13:15,028 --> 00:13:16,628 - But then that makes me worried, 365 00:13:16,696 --> 00:13:18,396 because this seems like 366 00:13:18,465 --> 00:13:23,201 he's just not as into Apryl as she's into him. 367 00:13:23,270 --> 00:13:25,470 - Yeah. Well, so what should we do? 368 00:13:25,539 --> 00:13:27,839 - I feel like we could just hit up Daryl. 369 00:13:27,908 --> 00:13:29,107 I don't see why we have 370 00:13:29,176 --> 00:13:30,508 to beat around the bush. - Right. 371 00:13:30,577 --> 00:13:32,477 - Maybe we don't put Apryl's name in it 372 00:13:32,546 --> 00:13:34,646 because maybe there's multiple girls 373 00:13:34,714 --> 00:13:35,580 that he's talking to. 374 00:13:35,649 --> 00:13:37,215 I would hit him with a generic 375 00:13:37,284 --> 00:13:39,117 "Hey, Daryl, working on an episode 376 00:13:39,186 --> 00:13:40,485 and could use your help." 377 00:13:40,554 --> 00:13:41,786 Everyone wants to write back 378 00:13:41,855 --> 00:13:44,189 when they think that they're gonna be helpful. 379 00:13:44,257 --> 00:13:45,623 - Let's also send the same message 380 00:13:45,692 --> 00:13:47,425 to his Facebook just in case. 381 00:13:47,494 --> 00:13:49,127 All right, so now what? What else can we do? 382 00:13:49,196 --> 00:13:51,396 I don't think there's anything else we can look at, right? 383 00:13:51,464 --> 00:13:53,898 Wait a second-- there's one more thing, 384 00:13:53,967 --> 00:13:55,266 which is the weird screengrab 385 00:13:55,335 --> 00:13:57,235 of the message from the "sister," 386 00:13:57,304 --> 00:14:00,438 Candace, and she sent Apryl a link to a Facebook group. 387 00:14:00,507 --> 00:14:01,806 All right, hold on. I'm gonna type in 388 00:14:01,875 --> 00:14:03,908 this Facebook page. 389 00:14:03,977 --> 00:14:05,376 "You're not alone. 390 00:14:05,445 --> 00:14:06,678 "A place where you can make friends 391 00:14:06,746 --> 00:14:09,013 and share feelings without being judged." 392 00:14:09,082 --> 00:14:11,549 Candace is the person who's creating all the posts. 393 00:14:11,618 --> 00:14:13,318 I mean, it seems just like a nice 394 00:14:13,386 --> 00:14:15,119 sort of help group page. 395 00:14:15,188 --> 00:14:17,589 Here's her Facebook page. 396 00:14:19,259 --> 00:14:21,192 Not a lot on here. Or we just can't see it. 397 00:14:21,261 --> 00:14:23,761 - Oh, no, you can't trust a Bitmoji bitch. 398 00:14:23,830 --> 00:14:25,230 - [chuckles] 399 00:14:25,298 --> 00:14:27,765 Let's look up the Instagram that sent Apryl that link. 400 00:14:27,834 --> 00:14:28,833 Here it is. 401 00:14:30,036 --> 00:14:32,604 Oh, wait a second. So Someone's drawing.t. 402 00:14:32,672 --> 00:14:33,571 That's him. 403 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,340 - [gasps] - So they obviously do 404 00:14:35,408 --> 00:14:36,374 know each other. 405 00:14:36,443 --> 00:14:38,009 - Could it just be that 406 00:14:38,078 --> 00:14:39,644 Daryl's sister was sending the link 407 00:14:39,713 --> 00:14:42,814 to all of the people that her brother follows? 408 00:14:42,883 --> 00:14:44,949 - Whoa, ah! - Oh! 409 00:14:45,018 --> 00:14:46,618 - Daryl wrote us back. 410 00:14:46,686 --> 00:14:47,619 "Hey." 411 00:14:49,356 --> 00:14:50,889 - Oh, my God, I'm nervous. He's looking. 412 00:14:50,957 --> 00:14:52,557 He's looking right now. 413 00:14:52,626 --> 00:14:54,993 - "You're welcome." Okay. 414 00:14:55,061 --> 00:14:58,563 - [gasps] Oh, no! 415 00:14:58,632 --> 00:15:01,633 It's Candace. - Why is Candace on his page? 416 00:15:01,701 --> 00:15:03,801 - Ooh! 417 00:15:10,010 --> 00:15:11,576 Ah, yes. 418 00:15:11,645 --> 00:15:14,045 - Oh, my God, oh, my God. Oh, my God, oh, my God. 419 00:15:14,114 --> 00:15:15,446 [computer chimes] [gasps] 420 00:15:15,515 --> 00:15:17,248 - Hey. - Hi. 421 00:15:17,317 --> 00:15:18,816 - Hello, hi. 422 00:15:18,885 --> 00:15:19,984 - Welcome. 423 00:15:20,053 --> 00:15:21,819 - So you're Daryl's sister, right? 424 00:15:21,888 --> 00:15:23,421 - Yeah, that's my brother. 425 00:15:23,490 --> 00:15:25,256 - Got it. - Right. Question-- 426 00:15:25,325 --> 00:15:28,226 why were you in Daryl's Instagram? 427 00:15:28,295 --> 00:15:31,162 - Because... 428 00:15:31,231 --> 00:15:35,633 I handle his financial side to his art. 429 00:15:35,702 --> 00:15:38,536 - I see, and he gets booked a lot through Instagram? 430 00:15:38,605 --> 00:15:40,872 - Yes. - Got it. 431 00:15:40,941 --> 00:15:43,875 Do you talk to people on his Instagram account 432 00:15:43,944 --> 00:15:45,276 other than clients? 433 00:15:45,345 --> 00:15:48,012 - No, I'm only there to handle the financial. 434 00:15:48,081 --> 00:15:49,380 - Hmm. - Okay. 435 00:15:49,449 --> 00:15:50,748 Where's he at? 436 00:15:50,817 --> 00:15:53,885 - He's at work currently. 437 00:15:53,954 --> 00:15:55,086 - 'Cause, basically, 438 00:15:55,155 --> 00:15:57,255 there's a lovely young woman, Apryl, 439 00:15:57,324 --> 00:15:59,023 who was excited at the possibility 440 00:15:59,092 --> 00:16:01,225 of finally meeting him, but he doesn't 441 00:16:01,294 --> 00:16:02,727 want to talk on the phone or video-chat. 442 00:16:02,796 --> 00:16:04,495 Now, is that just typical behavior 443 00:16:04,564 --> 00:16:06,998 because Daryl just doesn't like doing those things? 444 00:16:07,067 --> 00:16:11,536 - Um, he can be, in a sense, his own character, so... 445 00:16:11,604 --> 00:16:13,805 - And what about you? Are you in a relationship? 446 00:16:13,873 --> 00:16:15,940 - No. - Okay. 447 00:16:16,009 --> 00:16:17,241 - Candace, the only reason 448 00:16:17,310 --> 00:16:19,277 we were aware of you was because 449 00:16:19,346 --> 00:16:20,578 Apryl mentioned that 450 00:16:20,647 --> 00:16:22,780 you had actually sent her a message 451 00:16:22,849 --> 00:16:24,582 with a link to the Facebook page 452 00:16:24,651 --> 00:16:25,783 that I believe you started, 453 00:16:25,852 --> 00:16:27,852 which was like a support group page? 454 00:16:27,921 --> 00:16:29,187 - No. 455 00:16:29,255 --> 00:16:30,688 - No, you did not send that message? 456 00:16:30,757 --> 00:16:32,857 - My page--my page got hacked. 457 00:16:32,926 --> 00:16:33,992 - Oh. 458 00:16:34,060 --> 00:16:35,293 - Wait, so--okay. 459 00:16:35,362 --> 00:16:37,862 So did you make a "You Are Not Alone" 460 00:16:37,931 --> 00:16:39,998 Facebook group? 461 00:16:40,066 --> 00:16:41,399 - Yes. 462 00:16:41,468 --> 00:16:44,035 - But you were not the one on Instagram 463 00:16:44,104 --> 00:16:46,871 that was sending the link out to different people? 464 00:16:46,940 --> 00:16:48,940 - I do not recall 465 00:16:49,009 --> 00:16:51,209 sending the link out. 466 00:16:51,277 --> 00:16:53,511 - Okay, interesting. 467 00:16:53,580 --> 00:16:54,545 Look, Candace, 468 00:16:54,614 --> 00:16:59,550 you can understand that to us, 469 00:16:59,619 --> 00:17:01,886 it appears that talking to Apryl all this time. 470 00:17:01,955 --> 00:17:03,488 - No. [chuckles] 471 00:17:03,556 --> 00:17:06,324 No, it's not--not me. 472 00:17:06,393 --> 00:17:07,492 - Well-- - Got it. 473 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,127 - I mean, it-- [computer chimes] 474 00:17:09,195 --> 00:17:10,294 - Oh. 475 00:17:10,363 --> 00:17:11,596 ♪ ♪ 476 00:17:11,664 --> 00:17:12,730 Wait. 477 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:14,232 - Candace, are you still here? 478 00:17:14,300 --> 00:17:15,566 - Is she coming back or, like-- 479 00:17:15,635 --> 00:17:16,868 What--what just happened? 480 00:17:16,936 --> 00:17:18,970 What the [bleep] is going on? 481 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:21,072 - [laughs] - Where did she go? 482 00:17:21,141 --> 00:17:23,341 - Oh, she's typing, she's typing. 483 00:17:23,410 --> 00:17:24,609 She said her Zoom crashed. 484 00:17:24,677 --> 00:17:26,444 - Her phone died. 485 00:17:26,513 --> 00:17:28,212 - She said that she'll get in touch with Daryl. 486 00:17:29,416 --> 00:17:31,682 - I mean, look, something is definitely up. 487 00:17:31,751 --> 00:17:36,187 Maybe Candace made an Instagram account for him. 488 00:17:36,256 --> 00:17:37,555 - [gasps] - And he doesn't even 489 00:17:37,624 --> 00:17:39,190 necessarily know that they exist. 490 00:17:39,259 --> 00:17:40,892 - [softly] That's a possibility. 491 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,594 Maybe Candace finds, like, the muses and stuff like that 492 00:17:43,663 --> 00:17:46,164 and has him draw these people. 493 00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:48,433 That's why Apryl hasn't talked to him on the phone 494 00:17:48,501 --> 00:17:50,101 because it's Candace. 495 00:17:51,371 --> 00:17:54,305 And that's not gonna go over well with Apryl. 496 00:17:57,310 --> 00:17:58,743 - Kamie. 497 00:17:58,812 --> 00:18:00,578 [upbeat music] 498 00:18:00,647 --> 00:18:02,380 There she is. [computer chimes] 499 00:18:02,449 --> 00:18:05,383 We got an exciting cliffhanger here. 500 00:18:05,452 --> 00:18:07,351 It feels as though we've established 501 00:18:07,420 --> 00:18:09,220 that Daryl's a real guy. - Mm-hmm. 502 00:18:09,289 --> 00:18:11,089 - And he's an artist, and he's also the guy 503 00:18:11,157 --> 00:18:12,190 in those pictures. - Right. 504 00:18:12,258 --> 00:18:14,125 - Of course, then we get the curveball 505 00:18:14,194 --> 00:18:16,160 of the person who responds 506 00:18:16,229 --> 00:18:18,062 to the DM we sent to Daryl 507 00:18:18,131 --> 00:18:21,332 is Daryl's sister Candace. 508 00:18:21,401 --> 00:18:23,568 - I don't know how Apryl is gonna feel about it, but-- 509 00:18:23,636 --> 00:18:26,204 - Let's get Apryl back on Zoom 510 00:18:26,272 --> 00:18:28,706 and see what's going on with her. 511 00:18:28,775 --> 00:18:29,607 [computer chimes] 512 00:18:29,676 --> 00:18:32,143 - Bonjour! - Bonjour. 513 00:18:32,212 --> 00:18:34,078 - How are you? 514 00:18:34,147 --> 00:18:35,613 - I'm good. 515 00:18:35,682 --> 00:18:37,715 Excited, nervous, but I'm good. 516 00:18:37,784 --> 00:18:40,151 - Well, we have a little bit of an update. 517 00:18:40,220 --> 00:18:41,552 - Yeah. - Okay. 518 00:18:41,621 --> 00:18:43,087 - We've got some interesting information here. 519 00:18:43,156 --> 00:18:44,856 So let me share my screen, 520 00:18:44,924 --> 00:18:46,057 and we'll kind of walk you through 521 00:18:46,126 --> 00:18:47,458 everything that we found. 522 00:18:47,527 --> 00:18:49,060 - Okay. - Okay. 523 00:18:49,129 --> 00:18:51,429 So this is Daryl's Instagram. 524 00:18:51,498 --> 00:18:52,864 We looked through it more closely, 525 00:18:52,932 --> 00:18:55,399 and we found that the guy in this picture 526 00:18:55,468 --> 00:18:57,268 is definitely the guy making the art, 527 00:18:57,337 --> 00:18:59,036 from what we can tell. - Okay. 528 00:18:59,105 --> 00:19:01,906 - So our first instinct was, 529 00:19:01,975 --> 00:19:04,175 let's find out more about this guy. 530 00:19:04,244 --> 00:19:05,443 Is this really his dad? 531 00:19:05,512 --> 00:19:06,878 Is there a connection between them? 532 00:19:06,946 --> 00:19:08,412 What can we discover? 533 00:19:08,481 --> 00:19:11,415 So we just did a search for Danny [bleep]. 534 00:19:11,484 --> 00:19:14,152 And so when we found Danny's Facebook page, 535 00:19:14,220 --> 00:19:15,920 our first thought was, let's see 536 00:19:15,989 --> 00:19:17,989 if maybe he's friends with his son. 537 00:19:18,057 --> 00:19:20,858 So we just searched the dad's Facebook for Daryl, 538 00:19:20,927 --> 00:19:22,827 and bam. 539 00:19:22,896 --> 00:19:24,162 A page came up. 540 00:19:24,230 --> 00:19:25,930 Now, you had said you didn't think 541 00:19:25,999 --> 00:19:28,966 Daryl had a Facebook page. - Yeah. 542 00:19:29,035 --> 00:19:30,935 - Well, this one matches 543 00:19:31,004 --> 00:19:34,405 all of the posts and pictures, and, so, like, this clearly 544 00:19:34,474 --> 00:19:36,874 is his Facebook page. - Mm-hmm. 545 00:19:36,943 --> 00:19:38,709 - So that just seemed a little weird. 546 00:19:38,778 --> 00:19:40,878 Like, well, why wouldn't you know about this 547 00:19:40,947 --> 00:19:42,313 when this one's clearly active? 548 00:19:42,382 --> 00:19:43,915 - Yeah, exactly. 549 00:19:43,983 --> 00:19:45,349 - Strange. - Yeah. 550 00:19:45,418 --> 00:19:46,551 - Does this sound like him? 551 00:19:46,619 --> 00:19:47,952 Do you recognize his language 552 00:19:48,021 --> 00:19:50,021 and his sort of style in these posts? 553 00:19:50,089 --> 00:19:51,556 - I mean, to be honest, 554 00:19:51,624 --> 00:19:53,591 I'm reading these, and, like, 555 00:19:53,660 --> 00:19:56,527 it's really not the same type of things 556 00:19:56,596 --> 00:19:59,330 that he would say in a conversation with me 557 00:19:59,399 --> 00:20:01,199 or that I see him post on his Instagram. 558 00:20:01,267 --> 00:20:04,802 Like, it's a little more, I guess, vulgar and intense. 559 00:20:04,871 --> 00:20:07,972 - So I'm not sure what's going on with that. 560 00:20:08,041 --> 00:20:09,173 At this point, 561 00:20:09,242 --> 00:20:10,341 we figured we might as well 562 00:20:10,410 --> 00:20:11,742 send him a message on his Facebook, 563 00:20:11,811 --> 00:20:13,744 but we still haven't heard back. 564 00:20:13,813 --> 00:20:15,546 Then we remembered that you had mentioned 565 00:20:15,615 --> 00:20:17,448 that weird message you got... 566 00:20:17,517 --> 00:20:18,849 - Yeah. - From someone who 567 00:20:18,918 --> 00:20:22,053 Daryl later identified to you as his sister. 568 00:20:22,121 --> 00:20:23,321 - Yeah. - All right. 569 00:20:23,389 --> 00:20:25,489 And her name was Candace. - Mm-hmm. 570 00:20:25,558 --> 00:20:27,158 - So we went to the Instagram page 571 00:20:27,227 --> 00:20:28,726 that sent you that message. 572 00:20:28,795 --> 00:20:31,395 There's a video of Daryl drawing on it, 573 00:20:31,464 --> 00:20:32,964 so there's a connection, 574 00:20:33,032 --> 00:20:35,032 obviously, between her and him. 575 00:20:35,101 --> 00:20:36,801 So, if he's real 576 00:20:36,869 --> 00:20:39,003 and if he's not lying or hiding anything, 577 00:20:39,072 --> 00:20:40,705 then there's no reason that we shouldn't just 578 00:20:40,773 --> 00:20:42,073 send him a message. - Yeah. 579 00:20:42,141 --> 00:20:44,942 - So we sent Daryl a message on Instagram, 580 00:20:45,011 --> 00:20:46,877 and right away Daryl wrote back. 581 00:20:46,946 --> 00:20:47,745 "Hey." 582 00:20:47,814 --> 00:20:49,413 And then I got this message... 583 00:20:52,885 --> 00:20:54,118 - What? 584 00:20:54,187 --> 00:20:55,920 - Yeah. - So strange. 585 00:20:55,989 --> 00:20:57,388 - Oh, my God. 586 00:20:57,457 --> 00:21:00,591 - So I was like, "Any chance you can jump in a Zoom?" 587 00:21:00,660 --> 00:21:02,593 At which point, Candace 588 00:21:02,662 --> 00:21:05,529 comes in the Zoom. - What? 589 00:21:05,598 --> 00:21:07,298 - So we asked her-- why is she responding 590 00:21:07,367 --> 00:21:08,933 to his DMs? - Uh-huh. 591 00:21:09,002 --> 00:21:11,302 - And in a very awkward way, she said, 592 00:21:11,371 --> 00:21:13,537 "Oh, well, I handle 593 00:21:13,606 --> 00:21:16,941 "his financial sort of business dealings. 594 00:21:17,010 --> 00:21:18,576 "'Cause he gets requests from people 595 00:21:18,645 --> 00:21:21,078 "to buy art or commission work, 596 00:21:21,147 --> 00:21:23,281 so I handle that for him." 597 00:21:23,349 --> 00:21:26,150 - Hmm, okay. - Weird. 598 00:21:26,219 --> 00:21:27,118 - Then it came up, I said, 599 00:21:27,186 --> 00:21:28,352 "Well, oh, you know-- 600 00:21:28,421 --> 00:21:29,553 "you actually know Apryl, too, because 601 00:21:29,622 --> 00:21:32,390 you sent her a message." - Mm-hmm. 602 00:21:32,458 --> 00:21:34,492 - And she said, "No, I didn't." 603 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:35,993 And I was like, "Well, we know you did 604 00:21:36,062 --> 00:21:38,596 because it came from your Instagram account." 605 00:21:38,665 --> 00:21:41,132 And she said, "Oh, I got hacked and 606 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,168 locked out of that account." - That doesn't make any sense. 607 00:21:44,237 --> 00:21:45,469 - None of it made sense. 608 00:21:45,538 --> 00:21:47,972 The weirdest part to me was, 609 00:21:48,041 --> 00:21:50,074 we're in the middle of talking to her about you, 610 00:21:50,143 --> 00:21:51,309 and all of a sudden, 611 00:21:51,377 --> 00:21:53,144 she disappears off the Zoom. 612 00:21:53,212 --> 00:21:54,378 She was just gone. 613 00:21:54,447 --> 00:21:57,348 No call back. She didn't come back in. 614 00:21:57,417 --> 00:21:58,849 But she messaged us. 615 00:21:58,918 --> 00:22:00,384 - She just wrote back, "I'll talk to Daryl 616 00:22:00,453 --> 00:22:01,419 and get back to you." 617 00:22:01,487 --> 00:22:02,787 So I hate to say it, 618 00:22:02,855 --> 00:22:04,622 but there's a strong possibility 619 00:22:04,691 --> 00:22:07,992 that Candace is the person you're talking to. 620 00:22:08,061 --> 00:22:09,827 - Wow, okay. [laughs] 621 00:22:09,896 --> 00:22:11,996 Um, I was not prepared for that. 622 00:22:12,065 --> 00:22:15,166 - Maybe Daryl's never been on the Instagram account. 623 00:22:15,234 --> 00:22:17,868 Maybe she's been the one who started the account 624 00:22:17,937 --> 00:22:19,737 and has been running the account the entire time 625 00:22:19,806 --> 00:22:21,739 and he isn't a social media person. 626 00:22:21,808 --> 00:22:23,708 Maybe he just has Facebook. 627 00:22:23,776 --> 00:22:25,543 - And the language that he used on his Facebook, 628 00:22:25,611 --> 00:22:28,079 which you hadn't seen... - Yeah. 629 00:22:28,147 --> 00:22:29,914 - Is a little different and doesn't sound like Daryl 630 00:22:29,982 --> 00:22:31,682 because that's not who you're talking to. 631 00:22:31,751 --> 00:22:33,551 [thoughtful music] 632 00:22:33,619 --> 00:22:34,952 - [exhales sharply] 633 00:22:35,021 --> 00:22:36,287 Okay. - And the fact that 634 00:22:36,356 --> 00:22:37,888 you haven't talked to him on the phone 635 00:22:37,957 --> 00:22:39,523 and that he hasn't wanted to video-chat, 636 00:22:39,592 --> 00:22:42,193 well, to me, that means 637 00:22:42,261 --> 00:22:44,628 that there's something about his voice 638 00:22:44,697 --> 00:22:46,464 or the way he looks 639 00:22:46,532 --> 00:22:47,998 that he doesn't want you to know. 640 00:22:48,067 --> 00:22:49,100 And so, if you're Candace 641 00:22:49,168 --> 00:22:51,369 and you have a very, very different voice 642 00:22:51,437 --> 00:22:52,937 than what you'd expect, 643 00:22:53,005 --> 00:22:55,005 that would explain not getting on the phone. 644 00:22:55,074 --> 00:22:56,140 ♪ ♪ 645 00:22:57,310 --> 00:22:59,510 because I had no idea - Tthat she was even-- me 646 00:22:59,579 --> 00:23:01,479 that she even had access to his account. 647 00:23:01,547 --> 00:23:04,215 So that's why I'm so confused. 648 00:23:04,283 --> 00:23:05,816 ♪ ♪ 649 00:23:05,885 --> 00:23:08,452 And the question in my mind is, like, has it been her 650 00:23:08,521 --> 00:23:10,254 that I've been DMing every single time? 651 00:23:10,323 --> 00:23:14,525 - ♪ The ones we love are the ones who hurt us ♪ 652 00:23:14,594 --> 00:23:17,061 - And I feel like it's been so long 653 00:23:17,130 --> 00:23:20,998 and I've gone through so many, like, emotions... 654 00:23:21,067 --> 00:23:24,502 and I'm thinking of all the messages I've sent 655 00:23:24,570 --> 00:23:26,103 that I thought I was speaking to him, 656 00:23:27,173 --> 00:23:29,607 if I was actually speaking and nto Candace.know 657 00:23:29,675 --> 00:23:31,742 - ♪ Trust no one ♪ 658 00:23:31,811 --> 00:23:34,078 - This is freaking me out. 659 00:23:36,082 --> 00:23:38,182 - Are you all right, Apryl? 660 00:23:38,251 --> 00:23:40,885 - I'm just confused. [chuckles] 661 00:23:40,953 --> 00:23:43,521 ♪ ♪ 662 00:23:43,589 --> 00:23:46,757 His sister having read the Instagram from me 663 00:23:46,826 --> 00:23:48,125 is just-- 664 00:23:48,194 --> 00:23:50,094 that completely changed my whole perspective 665 00:23:50,163 --> 00:23:52,563 on everything. - Right. 666 00:23:52,632 --> 00:23:54,465 - Now, the question in my mind is, like, 667 00:23:54,534 --> 00:23:56,834 has it been her that I've been DMing every single time? 668 00:23:56,903 --> 00:23:58,335 - Right. - Because for you guys, 669 00:23:58,404 --> 00:24:01,705 it's, "Yeah, it's Candace," but me, it's supposedly Daryl. 670 00:24:01,774 --> 00:24:03,374 - Yeah. 671 00:24:03,443 --> 00:24:06,343 - So right now I'm--I'm kind of pissed off, actually. 672 00:24:06,412 --> 00:24:08,612 And I want some explanations. 673 00:24:08,681 --> 00:24:11,182 - Well, going by the evidence that we've been able to get, 674 00:24:11,250 --> 00:24:12,483 there's a strong possibility 675 00:24:12,552 --> 00:24:15,953 that Candace is the person you're talking to. 676 00:24:16,022 --> 00:24:18,322 - Wow. - But, like, at the moment, 677 00:24:18,391 --> 00:24:20,324 we're just sort of stuck at this weird spot, 678 00:24:20,393 --> 00:24:23,494 because if Candace is behind Daryl's Instagram, 679 00:24:23,563 --> 00:24:26,230 who knows what her motives or real feelings are? 680 00:24:26,299 --> 00:24:28,666 - Right. - Unless Candace is ready 681 00:24:30,102 --> 00:24:33,771 I mean, she was very quick and eager to talk to us yesterday. 682 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,373 So I'm gonna send another message to Daryl's Instagram. 683 00:24:36,442 --> 00:24:38,375 "Anyone there?" I'll just say "Anyone there?" 684 00:24:38,444 --> 00:24:40,511 - Me and Daryl, we've said things to each other like, 685 00:24:40,580 --> 00:24:42,079 "Oh, um, you know, 686 00:24:42,148 --> 00:24:43,581 "if we lived closer, we would get married. 687 00:24:43,649 --> 00:24:45,583 Like, I would be with you in a second." 688 00:24:45,651 --> 00:24:47,985 Like, I'm still thinking that I was having 689 00:24:48,054 --> 00:24:50,754 those conversations with Candace. 690 00:24:50,823 --> 00:24:52,456 It's just... 691 00:24:52,525 --> 00:24:54,058 [computer pops] - Oh, I got a DM. 692 00:24:54,126 --> 00:24:55,626 - "Yes," okay. 693 00:25:00,032 --> 00:25:03,133 - Candace for 500, Alex. 694 00:25:03,202 --> 00:25:05,603 They're quick, wow. 695 00:25:05,671 --> 00:25:07,371 Candace, I knew it! 696 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,240 - But why is it always Candace? 697 00:25:09,308 --> 00:25:11,108 This is freaking me out. 698 00:25:11,177 --> 00:25:13,110 - If it's Candace every time we send a message, 699 00:25:13,179 --> 00:25:15,145 probably Candace when you send a message. 700 00:25:15,214 --> 00:25:17,381 - Oh, my God. 701 00:25:17,450 --> 00:25:19,984 - Let me guess-- he said he doesn't want 702 00:25:20,052 --> 00:25:21,886 to be a part of the show. 703 00:25:21,954 --> 00:25:24,588 [suspenseful music] 704 00:25:24,657 --> 00:25:26,490 ♪ ♪ 705 00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:28,158 [clicks tongue] Of course. 706 00:25:28,227 --> 00:25:30,728 - What did he say? 707 00:25:30,796 --> 00:25:33,998 ♪ ♪ 708 00:25:34,066 --> 00:25:35,900 - Oh... 709 00:25:35,968 --> 00:25:38,102 ♪ ♪ 710 00:25:38,170 --> 00:25:39,236 - The suspense is killing me. 711 00:25:39,305 --> 00:25:44,708 ♪ ♪ 712 00:25:44,777 --> 00:25:45,876 - This is very weird. 713 00:25:45,945 --> 00:25:47,177 - I get that... 714 00:25:49,582 --> 00:25:56,320 ♪ ♪ 715 00:25:59,525 --> 00:26:05,362 "Apryl is understandably confused." 716 00:26:12,505 --> 00:26:15,706 - Apryl, if Daryl doesn't show up today, 717 00:26:15,775 --> 00:26:18,809 are you still willing to talk to whoever 718 00:26:18,878 --> 00:26:20,344 you're talking to? 719 00:26:20,413 --> 00:26:21,745 - It's been so long, 720 00:26:21,814 --> 00:26:24,381 and I've gone through so many, like, emotions, 721 00:26:24,450 --> 00:26:26,584 I don't see why, after everything, 722 00:26:26,652 --> 00:26:29,053 you would just not show up. - Right. 723 00:26:29,121 --> 00:26:31,221 ♪ ♪ 724 00:26:31,290 --> 00:26:32,957 You see what she wrote? 725 00:26:33,025 --> 00:26:35,125 - Yeah. 726 00:26:35,194 --> 00:26:37,661 - Oh, God, what is she writing now? 727 00:26:37,730 --> 00:26:44,668 ♪ ♪ 728 00:26:49,275 --> 00:26:51,675 - What? She stopped. 729 00:26:51,744 --> 00:26:54,979 ♪ ♪ 730 00:26:55,047 --> 00:26:56,246 - [inhales deeply] 731 00:26:56,315 --> 00:27:00,084 ♪ ♪ 732 00:27:00,152 --> 00:27:01,218 I am sweating. 733 00:27:01,287 --> 00:27:03,354 Gosh. 734 00:27:03,422 --> 00:27:05,022 I'm really freaking out 735 00:27:05,091 --> 00:27:06,957 over here, to be honest. - Yeah. 736 00:27:07,026 --> 00:27:09,927 - I wasn't expecting a lot of the things that I found out, 737 00:27:09,996 --> 00:27:13,397 so now my mind has just been kind of racing ever since. 738 00:27:13,466 --> 00:27:14,732 - If it is Candace, 739 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,533 she has a lot of explaining to do. 740 00:27:16,602 --> 00:27:18,035 - Yeah. - Yeah. 741 00:27:18,104 --> 00:27:20,671 - And if Daryl knew about it the whole time, so does he. 742 00:27:20,740 --> 00:27:22,139 - Oh, yeah. 743 00:27:22,208 --> 00:27:24,108 - There's... [computer chimes] 744 00:27:24,176 --> 00:27:25,976 No new message--oh. 745 00:27:26,045 --> 00:27:28,178 [suspenseful music] 746 00:27:28,247 --> 00:27:28,512 - Oh, my goodness. 747 00:27:29,281 --> 00:27:30,547 - I am sweating. - Yeah. 748 00:27:30,616 --> 00:27:32,082 - I'm really freaking out over here. 749 00:27:32,151 --> 00:27:33,217 [computer chimes] - Oh. 750 00:27:33,285 --> 00:27:36,387 [suspenseful music] 751 00:27:36,455 --> 00:27:39,556 ♪ ♪ 752 00:27:39,625 --> 00:27:40,824 - Daryl! 753 00:27:40,893 --> 00:27:41,859 - What up? - [chuckles] 754 00:27:41,927 --> 00:27:43,160 - What's up, man? 755 00:27:43,229 --> 00:27:44,862 - What's up, man? - Wow. 756 00:27:44,930 --> 00:27:46,530 - It's real. - Hi. 757 00:27:46,599 --> 00:27:47,898 - What's up, bro? 758 00:27:47,967 --> 00:27:49,033 - I don't believe it. 759 00:27:49,101 --> 00:27:51,168 - Oh, my gosh. - What's up, Apryl? 760 00:27:51,237 --> 00:27:53,237 - Wait, so hold on a second. 761 00:27:53,305 --> 00:27:55,005 We're all very confused, 762 00:27:55,074 --> 00:27:57,041 'cause you're obviously you. 763 00:27:57,109 --> 00:28:00,477 - For sure, for sure. - [laughs] 764 00:28:00,546 --> 00:28:04,081 - But when I DM'd you, Candace wrote back. 765 00:28:04,150 --> 00:28:06,316 - Ooh, yeah. - So what's up with that? 766 00:28:06,385 --> 00:28:08,285 Why is Candace in your DMs? 767 00:28:08,354 --> 00:28:11,388 - All right, she handles certain drawings, like these. 768 00:28:11,457 --> 00:28:13,157 - Handled? What do you mean handled? 769 00:28:13,225 --> 00:28:14,758 - Like, the prices. 770 00:28:14,827 --> 00:28:17,428 Like, she gives out the prices for the art and [bleep], so... 771 00:28:17,496 --> 00:28:19,797 That's all she be doing in there. 772 00:28:19,865 --> 00:28:21,799 - But she's still in there. 773 00:28:21,867 --> 00:28:23,133 - Oh. 774 00:28:24,603 --> 00:28:27,104 Only for the holiday, 'cause I was super busy, 775 00:28:27,173 --> 00:28:30,607 so I had her in there for November, December 776 00:28:30,676 --> 00:28:33,243 just to handle these new commissions-- 777 00:28:33,312 --> 00:28:35,012 business, art stuff. - Okay. 778 00:28:35,081 --> 00:28:36,547 - That's it. 779 00:28:36,615 --> 00:28:38,382 She don't read no messages from me and Apryl or nothing. 780 00:28:38,451 --> 00:28:40,050 That's just me. Swear to God. 781 00:28:43,289 --> 00:28:46,090 Stay out of that. It's just between me and her. 782 00:28:46,158 --> 00:28:48,625 - So you told Canace specifically, 783 00:28:48,694 --> 00:28:51,862 "If it's this girl, Apryl, do not respond." 784 00:28:51,931 --> 00:28:53,163 - Oh, yeah, for sure. 785 00:28:53,232 --> 00:28:55,332 [keys clacking] 786 00:28:59,338 --> 00:29:01,305 - Obviously, you can understand, right? 787 00:29:01,373 --> 00:29:03,807 Like, I messaged you, and she wrote back 788 00:29:03,876 --> 00:29:06,076 and said, "Oh, this is Candace. I'm on his page." 789 00:29:06,145 --> 00:29:07,811 We thought Apryl had been talking 790 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,046 to your sister the whole time. 791 00:29:09,115 --> 00:29:10,581 - Oh, no. Hell, no. 792 00:29:10,649 --> 00:29:15,419 - Well, okay, what's up with Candace messaging Apryl 793 00:29:15,488 --> 00:29:16,787 on Instagram? 794 00:29:16,856 --> 00:29:19,323 And you told Apryl to ignore it. 795 00:29:19,391 --> 00:29:22,159 - Oh, yeah, because her page is hacked. 796 00:29:22,228 --> 00:29:23,660 She told me that-- 797 00:29:23,729 --> 00:29:25,763 'cause that page is sending random messages to people. 798 00:29:25,831 --> 00:29:26,897 I don't know why. 799 00:29:26,966 --> 00:29:29,066 It sent a link to a Facebook group 800 00:29:29,135 --> 00:29:31,268 that Candace started. 801 00:29:31,337 --> 00:29:33,937 - That page got hacked or something. 802 00:29:34,006 --> 00:29:35,773 She told me it's hacked, and she can't-- 803 00:29:35,841 --> 00:29:37,374 no access to it or something. 804 00:29:37,443 --> 00:29:39,710 So she made a new Facebook. - Huh. 805 00:29:39,779 --> 00:29:41,712 So you're telling me 806 00:29:41,781 --> 00:29:46,483 that the only person who Apryl has ever communicated with 807 00:29:46,552 --> 00:29:49,286 is you, and that's that. - Oh, yeah, for sure, 100%. 808 00:29:50,556 --> 00:29:52,489 that Candace never responded to Apryl's messages, 809 00:29:52,558 --> 00:29:54,391 since she responded to my message? 810 00:29:54,460 --> 00:29:56,393 - I trust her. She not going in there. 811 00:29:56,462 --> 00:30:00,030 I would've shut all that down if she even sent one message. 812 00:30:00,099 --> 00:30:02,032 I would've shut all that [bleep] down. 813 00:30:02,101 --> 00:30:03,867 - All right. - 'Cause I'm the first one 814 00:30:03,936 --> 00:30:05,536 to see her messages. 815 00:30:05,604 --> 00:30:07,704 I make sure, I'm like, "Oh, [bleep], she's messaging me? 816 00:30:07,773 --> 00:30:09,206 All right, quick, every time. 817 00:30:09,275 --> 00:30:10,507 It's me. 818 00:30:10,576 --> 00:30:12,676 - Okay, I'm happy to hear that. 819 00:30:12,745 --> 00:30:14,077 What's then confusing to me 820 00:30:14,146 --> 00:30:15,512 is just that it is you, 821 00:30:15,581 --> 00:30:17,614 and it has been you talking to Apryl this whole time. 822 00:30:17,683 --> 00:30:20,017 Why so shady? Why don't you give her your phone number 823 00:30:20,085 --> 00:30:21,952 or video-chat or...? - Oh, yeah. 824 00:30:22,021 --> 00:30:23,487 - What's up with that? 825 00:30:23,556 --> 00:30:26,990 - I ain't think she wanted to talk to me like that. 826 00:30:27,059 --> 00:30:28,559 I didn't really know that she 827 00:30:28,627 --> 00:30:30,427 was, like, feeling me at all, to be honest. 828 00:30:30,496 --> 00:30:32,229 Even if I was just drawing you or whatever, 829 00:30:32,298 --> 00:30:33,864 I could be just another creepy-ass dude. 830 00:30:33,933 --> 00:30:35,432 I know you got a lot of attention. 831 00:30:35,501 --> 00:30:37,734 You bad, so I'm like, I'm gonna come different a little bit 832 00:30:37,803 --> 00:30:39,903 with the art and see if she like it or whatever. 833 00:30:39,972 --> 00:30:41,738 - Right, but she did. She liked it. 834 00:30:41,807 --> 00:30:44,174 You guys have been friends now for years, 835 00:30:44,243 --> 00:30:46,076 and I think-- at least she feels 836 00:30:46,145 --> 00:30:47,911 that it's been made pretty clear 837 00:30:47,980 --> 00:30:50,347 that you're more than friends or could be more than friends. 838 00:30:50,416 --> 00:30:51,815 - I want to. I want to. 839 00:30:51,884 --> 00:30:53,116 That's why I'm here. 840 00:30:53,185 --> 00:30:56,587 [warm music] 841 00:30:56,655 --> 00:30:58,288 ♪ ♪ 842 00:30:58,357 --> 00:31:01,024 - So we found that you do have a Facebook page. 843 00:31:01,093 --> 00:31:02,726 - Yep. - But you're not friends 844 00:31:02,795 --> 00:31:04,228 with her on that Facebook page. 845 00:31:04,296 --> 00:31:06,396 - Oh, yeah, I'm not. - Any reason? 846 00:31:06,465 --> 00:31:08,565 - I ain't want to be creepy. I ain't want to be a stalker. 847 00:31:08,634 --> 00:31:11,001 I don't know. I don't want to be weird. 848 00:31:11,070 --> 00:31:12,369 - I want to know-- 849 00:31:12,438 --> 00:31:14,538 you know, you draw a lot of girls on your page. 850 00:31:14,607 --> 00:31:17,441 Like, there's a lot of different people that you-- 851 00:31:18,811 --> 00:31:20,644 Why is that? 852 00:31:20,713 --> 00:31:23,447 - 'Cause I'm only focused on her right now. 853 00:31:23,515 --> 00:31:26,149 - I mean, Apryl is, like, bursting at the seams. 854 00:31:26,218 --> 00:31:28,252 She's so happy. 855 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,920 And you look like you are, too. 856 00:31:29,989 --> 00:31:31,455 You're both nervous, by the way, 857 00:31:31,523 --> 00:31:33,624 so just putting it out there. - Yeah, I'm nervous. 858 00:31:33,692 --> 00:31:36,159 - I'm just in shock right now. [laughs] 859 00:31:36,228 --> 00:31:38,262 I haven't said a word in the past five minutes 860 00:31:38,330 --> 00:31:40,631 'cause I'm just in shock. [giggles] 861 00:31:44,503 --> 00:31:46,236 - What do you like about Apryl so much? 862 00:31:46,305 --> 00:31:48,071 - Like, she motivate the [bleep] out of me. 863 00:31:48,140 --> 00:31:49,973 Beautiful [bleep] body. Like, I'm looking. 864 00:31:50,042 --> 00:31:52,142 It's just like a dream right now. 865 00:31:52,211 --> 00:31:53,977 - But what has been keeping you 866 00:31:54,046 --> 00:31:56,213 from seeing her this entire time? 867 00:31:56,282 --> 00:31:58,548 - Yeah, a lot. I was going through it for a little bit. 868 00:31:58,617 --> 00:31:59,917 Money problems. 869 00:31:59,985 --> 00:32:01,985 Work was kind of slow 'cause, like, corona. 870 00:32:02,054 --> 00:32:03,453 Just couldn't stack up quick enough. 871 00:32:03,522 --> 00:32:05,222 I couldn't do what I wanted to do. 872 00:32:05,291 --> 00:32:07,090 I was getting depressed. 873 00:32:07,159 --> 00:32:08,692 - I think it's fair. 874 00:32:08,761 --> 00:32:11,495 The last years hasn't exactly been the most ideal 875 00:32:11,563 --> 00:32:14,364 period of time to, you know, meet up with someone 876 00:32:14,433 --> 00:32:17,334 who lives far away and in another country. 877 00:32:17,403 --> 00:32:20,304 I get that, but crazy to me that you wouldn't have said, 878 00:32:20,372 --> 00:32:22,339 like, "Yo, we should talk on the phone." 879 00:32:22,408 --> 00:32:25,309 - Or just text from your actual phone number. 880 00:32:25,377 --> 00:32:27,544 Why can't she have your phone number? 881 00:32:27,613 --> 00:32:29,146 - [chuckles] I thought about it. 882 00:32:29,214 --> 00:32:30,480 I always think about it, but like I said, 883 00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:32,215 I didn't think she was gonna want it. 884 00:32:32,284 --> 00:32:34,551 So I'm like--I didn't ask. I just didn't. 885 00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:37,421 - Well, look, I obviously would love to let you guys talk, 886 00:32:37,489 --> 00:32:39,690 but before we do that, I have some questions. 887 00:32:39,758 --> 00:32:41,491 Daryl, if I could chat with you. 888 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,026 Kamie, if you could talk with Apryl for a second. 889 00:32:43,095 --> 00:32:44,428 - Yeah. - All right. 890 00:32:44,496 --> 00:32:45,395 - Okay. 891 00:32:45,464 --> 00:32:47,431 [computer chimes] - No boys allowed. 892 00:32:47,499 --> 00:32:49,399 [both laugh] 893 00:32:49,468 --> 00:32:50,734 - Whew. 894 00:32:50,803 --> 00:32:52,602 Oh, my gosh. 895 00:32:52,671 --> 00:32:54,237 [both laughing] 896 00:32:54,306 --> 00:32:56,573 - How do you feel? What do you think? 897 00:32:56,642 --> 00:32:57,908 - I have no words. 898 00:32:57,977 --> 00:33:01,311 I almost cried when he pulled up on the screen, like... 899 00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:02,980 I was not expecting that. 900 00:33:03,048 --> 00:33:05,082 - And he's so into you. 901 00:33:05,150 --> 00:33:07,284 - When I met him, I had no words. 902 00:33:07,353 --> 00:33:08,685 I didn't know what to say 903 00:33:08,754 --> 00:33:10,854 because my brain just kind of went, mm. 904 00:33:10,923 --> 00:33:14,524 - All I kept seeing was you being, like... 905 00:33:14,593 --> 00:33:16,593 - Just trying to make myself breathe, 906 00:33:16,662 --> 00:33:19,696 let the oxygen flow through to the brain, you know. 907 00:33:19,765 --> 00:33:22,165 I'm just excited for him to come back in the chat. 908 00:33:22,234 --> 00:33:24,267 [both laughs] - I know. 909 00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:25,769 You're like, "Get the [bleep] out of here, Kamie. 910 00:33:25,838 --> 00:33:27,904 I'm trying to spit game." I get it. it's fine. 911 00:33:27,973 --> 00:33:29,272 - I feel like a little girl. 912 00:33:29,341 --> 00:33:30,707 - Hey. - Hey, man. 913 00:33:30,776 --> 00:33:32,542 - What's up? - So this is great. 914 00:33:32,611 --> 00:33:34,478 - Yeah, I'm excited. Yeah. [chuckles] 915 00:33:34,546 --> 00:33:36,847 - It's just, again, and I kind of mentioned it before, 916 00:33:36,915 --> 00:33:38,382 but after all these years 917 00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:40,150 and talking to her pretty much every day 918 00:33:40,219 --> 00:33:42,619 and her clearly flirting, 919 00:33:42,688 --> 00:33:45,389 like, you didn't pick up on enough signals to say, like, 920 00:33:45,457 --> 00:33:47,424 "Okay, I think this girl's into me." 921 00:33:47,493 --> 00:33:50,694 She described it almost like you were avoiding her 922 00:33:50,763 --> 00:33:52,562 or pushing her away. 923 00:33:52,631 --> 00:33:54,698 So it just seems like there's something 924 00:33:54,767 --> 00:33:56,466 you might not be saying. 925 00:33:56,535 --> 00:33:57,934 I just want to make sure you don't feel 926 00:33:58,003 --> 00:33:59,903 like there's any weird pressure or expectation 927 00:33:59,972 --> 00:34:02,139 for you to say something or feel a certain way 928 00:34:02,207 --> 00:34:03,907 and that you really do like her. 929 00:34:03,976 --> 00:34:05,909 - Yeah, well... 930 00:34:05,978 --> 00:34:08,178 I kind of understand why she felt like that 931 00:34:08,247 --> 00:34:10,013 'cause I kind of was pushing her away. 932 00:34:10,082 --> 00:34:12,783 [dramatic music] 933 00:34:12,851 --> 00:34:14,985 - What do you think that was about? 934 00:34:15,054 --> 00:34:17,754 - [sighs] 935 00:34:17,823 --> 00:34:20,290 ♪ ♪ 936 00:34:21,427 --> 00:34:23,593 - I kind of was pushing her away. 937 00:34:23,662 --> 00:34:25,796 - What do you think that was about? 938 00:34:25,864 --> 00:34:27,664 - [sighs] 939 00:34:27,733 --> 00:34:30,233 [dramatic music] 940 00:34:30,302 --> 00:34:32,869 - At first, I was... 941 00:34:32,938 --> 00:34:34,171 like, shy. 942 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,705 Like, I used to be, like, super shy. 943 00:34:35,774 --> 00:34:38,008 I used to not be able to look people in the eye. 944 00:34:38,077 --> 00:34:39,476 I couldn't even make eye contact, 945 00:34:39,545 --> 00:34:41,711 like, a couple years ago. - Okay. 946 00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:44,381 - I'm hard on myself, if you can't tell already. 947 00:34:44,450 --> 00:34:47,084 - Have you had, like, a serious girlfriend 948 00:34:47,152 --> 00:34:48,785 in the recent past? 949 00:34:48,854 --> 00:34:50,120 - Oh, no. 950 00:34:50,189 --> 00:34:52,222 - No, I've never been in any relationships. 951 00:34:52,291 --> 00:34:54,124 Never kissed a girl. - Oh, really? 952 00:34:54,193 --> 00:34:56,093 So you've never been in love, then, I guess. 953 00:34:56,161 --> 00:34:57,761 - No, not yet. 954 00:34:57,830 --> 00:34:59,996 - Have you tried dating people? Have people wanted to date you? 955 00:35:00,065 --> 00:35:02,099 Or is it just, like, not happening? 956 00:35:02,167 --> 00:35:03,733 - I mean, see... 957 00:35:03,802 --> 00:35:07,771 I had chances, but I kind of avoided all of them. 958 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,441 - Mainly just out of shyness and insecurity? 959 00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:13,610 - Yeah. I haven't tried in a long time. 960 00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:16,980 - So hitting on women or asking a girl out 961 00:35:17,049 --> 00:35:18,415 and making your feelings known 962 00:35:18,484 --> 00:35:20,684 is not something that you have a lot of experience with. 963 00:35:20,752 --> 00:35:23,353 - Yeah, I have no experience, beside Apryl. 964 00:35:23,422 --> 00:35:25,055 I really do like her, though. - Right. 965 00:35:25,124 --> 00:35:27,023 And she told us she really likes you. 966 00:35:27,092 --> 00:35:28,892 She's super into you. - I didn't-- 967 00:35:28,961 --> 00:35:31,161 - You didn't know that. - I didn't know that. 968 00:35:31,230 --> 00:35:32,395 No, I didn't. - Okay. 969 00:35:32,464 --> 00:35:34,397 That makes a lot more sense now. 970 00:35:34,466 --> 00:35:36,733 Well, I mean, that's exciting. - Mm-hmm, it is. 971 00:35:36,802 --> 00:35:38,568 [laughs] - You think you can handle her? 972 00:35:38,637 --> 00:35:42,205 - Yeah, I can handle it. That's why I'm here. 973 00:35:42,274 --> 00:35:43,907 - So, I mean, are you ready 974 00:35:43,976 --> 00:35:46,977 to formally sort of ask her to go out with you? 975 00:35:47,045 --> 00:35:48,778 - Yeah, I will. I know I will. 976 00:35:48,847 --> 00:35:51,281 - 'Cause she's been hoping 977 00:35:51,350 --> 00:35:53,383 that something would happen with you guys. 978 00:35:53,452 --> 00:35:56,086 So she's, like-- - I didn't even know that. 979 00:35:56,155 --> 00:35:58,455 - No, right, you didn't realize that. 980 00:35:58,524 --> 00:36:00,190 But Apryl's a beautiful young woman, 981 00:36:00,259 --> 00:36:01,958 and if she doesn't get the impression 982 00:36:02,027 --> 00:36:03,960 that you're serious about moving forward, you know, 983 00:36:04,029 --> 00:36:06,329 she might have to start looking for someone else to date. 984 00:36:06,398 --> 00:36:08,732 I just want you to know that, like, you've got a chance 985 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,200 to make something happen. 986 00:36:10,269 --> 00:36:11,701 - Yeah, I'm excited. Yeah. 987 00:36:12,905 --> 00:36:14,437 I'd love to just let you -guys talk for a minute,. 988 00:36:14,506 --> 00:36:15,739 if that's cool. - That's cool. 989 00:36:15,807 --> 00:36:18,241 - So I'm gonna bring them back in. 990 00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:19,676 - All right. 991 00:36:19,745 --> 00:36:22,412 [upbeat music] 992 00:36:22,481 --> 00:36:24,548 [computer chimes] Alright, guys. 993 00:36:24,616 --> 00:36:26,716 We just want to let you guys talk for a minute. 994 00:36:26,785 --> 00:36:28,251 And, Apryl, you let me know 995 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,120 when a good time to kind of come back in would be. 996 00:36:30,189 --> 00:36:31,555 - Okay. - All right. 997 00:36:31,623 --> 00:36:33,490 - See you. 998 00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:35,425 - What's up, bae? - Hey. 999 00:36:35,494 --> 00:36:36,893 [chuckles] - Man... 1000 00:36:36,962 --> 00:36:37,994 - This is so weird. 1001 00:36:38,063 --> 00:36:39,829 It's just crazy that, like, 1002 00:36:39,898 --> 00:36:41,531 you're in front of me right now. 1003 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,633 The second I saw you pop up on the screen, 1004 00:36:43,702 --> 00:36:45,168 I almost cried, like... 1005 00:36:45,237 --> 00:36:47,037 [both laugh] - Me too. 1006 00:36:47,105 --> 00:36:50,507 - I was just so happy, like... - It's like a real dream. 1007 00:36:50,576 --> 00:36:52,175 It's like, I'm happy as [bleep], though, 1008 00:36:52,244 --> 00:36:53,877 even though I'm nervous as [bleep] right now. 1009 00:36:53,946 --> 00:36:55,745 My anxiety's going crazy right now. 1010 00:36:55,814 --> 00:36:57,581 - But that's another thing, though. 1011 00:36:57,649 --> 00:37:00,183 That's, like--I'm a really insecure person, too 1012 00:37:00,252 --> 00:37:03,987 Like, I know I put out this super-confident persona, 1013 00:37:04,056 --> 00:37:06,423 but, like, I'm a really insecure person. 1014 00:37:06,491 --> 00:37:09,426 Like, yeah, I know I post a lot of nice-looking pictures, 1015 00:37:09,494 --> 00:37:12,963 but, like, you don't really see 100% of me, you know? 1016 00:37:13,031 --> 00:37:14,364 Like, there's a lot of editing. 1017 00:37:14,433 --> 00:37:17,267 There's a lot of posing in certain ways, you know. 1018 00:37:17,336 --> 00:37:20,270 - Right, I understand all that, but it don't even matter. 1019 00:37:20,339 --> 00:37:22,105 [chuckles] 1020 00:37:24,343 --> 00:37:26,409 - I've been going for my whole life basically, 1021 00:37:26,478 --> 00:37:30,247 like, kind of feeling, I guess, underappreciated 1022 00:37:30,315 --> 00:37:34,050 by most men that I come into contact with, you know, 1023 00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:36,186 and it's, like, sexual right away. 1024 00:37:36,255 --> 00:37:38,054 It's like disrespect, you know? 1025 00:37:38,123 --> 00:37:39,923 - Yeah, I'm different. - I see that. 1026 00:37:39,992 --> 00:37:42,559 - I been single my whole life. 1027 00:37:42,628 --> 00:37:44,294 - You've been single your whole life? 1028 00:37:44,363 --> 00:37:45,929 - Yep. Never kissed a girl. 1029 00:37:45,998 --> 00:37:47,464 - Damn. 1030 00:37:47,532 --> 00:37:49,032 Why, though? 1031 00:37:49,101 --> 00:37:50,900 - I ain't even really want none. 1032 00:37:50,969 --> 00:37:52,335 I wasn't really interested 1033 00:37:52,404 --> 00:37:54,304 till, like, two years ago. 1034 00:37:54,373 --> 00:37:56,139 I'm like... 1035 00:37:57,709 --> 00:37:59,142 - Damn. 1036 00:38:03,315 --> 00:38:05,115 - Somehow, you have me motivated. 1037 00:38:05,183 --> 00:38:07,284 You inspire me. It's like a spark for some reason. 1038 00:38:07,352 --> 00:38:10,654 Like, I get anxiety when I send you messages. 1039 00:38:10,722 --> 00:38:13,423 Like, I be nervous. Like, I don't know if she got feelings. 1040 00:38:13,492 --> 00:38:17,160 Like, just something about you just had me, like... 1041 00:38:17,229 --> 00:38:18,862 stuck on you. 1042 00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:20,664 - [chuckles] [bleep]. 1043 00:38:20,732 --> 00:38:21,831 - [chuckles] 1044 00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:23,366 - I don't even know what to say. 1045 00:38:23,435 --> 00:38:25,669 Like... - Since day one. 1046 00:38:25,737 --> 00:38:27,570 I've been in love, for real. 1047 00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:29,839 I ain't never been in love either. 1048 00:38:29,908 --> 00:38:31,641 But I know, when I see you, 1049 00:38:31,710 --> 00:38:35,011 I get a feeling that I never felt before, so... 1050 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,780 I just know. 1051 00:38:36,848 --> 00:38:39,349 - Oh, my gosh. [laughs] 1052 00:38:39,418 --> 00:38:42,018 [inhales deeply] 1053 00:38:42,087 --> 00:38:43,820 Like, how are you real? 1054 00:38:43,889 --> 00:38:45,288 [both laugh] 1055 00:38:45,357 --> 00:38:47,023 - I don't believe this right now. 1056 00:38:47,092 --> 00:38:48,825 Actually, this is amazing. 1057 00:38:48,894 --> 00:38:50,627 - [sniffles] Oh, [bleep]. 1058 00:38:50,696 --> 00:38:52,962 - [chuckles] 1059 00:38:53,031 --> 00:38:57,600 - I think I'm gonna tell them to come back before... 1060 00:38:57,669 --> 00:39:00,537 - All right. [both laughing] 1061 00:39:00,605 --> 00:39:01,838 - Ooh. 1062 00:39:01,907 --> 00:39:03,840 Oh, my gosh. 1063 00:39:03,909 --> 00:39:08,378 ♪ ♪ 1064 00:39:08,447 --> 00:39:10,080 [computer chimes] 1065 00:39:10,148 --> 00:39:11,948 - So what did we miss? - [chuckles] 1066 00:39:12,017 --> 00:39:14,451 Everything good? - Yeah, everything good. 1067 00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:16,553 - Everything is great, yeah. 1068 00:39:16,621 --> 00:39:18,722 - I'm still in shock that it's not Candace. 1069 00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:21,091 I-I... Wow. Okay. 1070 00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:23,293 We were wrong, Nev. We were wrong. 1071 00:39:23,362 --> 00:39:25,995 - So, look, this is, you know, rare for us on the show, 1072 00:39:26,064 --> 00:39:29,199 but all the more reason to celebrate and be happy. 1073 00:39:29,267 --> 00:39:31,134 And I just want to make sure 1074 00:39:31,203 --> 00:39:33,470 that we all take one sort of formal step 1075 00:39:33,538 --> 00:39:35,872 towards you guys now moving forward. 1076 00:39:35,941 --> 00:39:37,607 So, at the very least, 1077 00:39:37,676 --> 00:39:39,943 can you guys give each other your numbers so that, like...? 1078 00:39:40,011 --> 00:39:41,378 - Oh, yeah. - Please. 1079 00:39:41,446 --> 00:39:43,246 - So I say it now? - Yeah, tell her. 1080 00:39:43,315 --> 00:39:44,447 - 330... 1081 00:39:44,516 --> 00:39:47,083 [bleep]. 1082 00:39:47,152 --> 00:39:49,319 [cell phone chimes] - Oh. 1083 00:39:49,388 --> 00:39:51,221 - Deliver. - I got it. 1084 00:39:51,289 --> 00:39:52,489 - Okay. 1085 00:39:52,557 --> 00:39:54,924 All right, so we've now got phone contact. 1086 00:39:54,993 --> 00:39:56,526 All right, well, this is great. 1087 00:39:57,863 --> 00:40:00,063 You know, I really think you guys have a lot in common. 1088 00:40:00,132 --> 00:40:02,232 You clearly have a good foundation of friendship 1089 00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:04,634 and respect for one another, 1090 00:40:04,703 --> 00:40:07,070 which, you know, is a great place to start, so... 1091 00:40:07,139 --> 00:40:08,338 I don't know what to tell you guys 1092 00:40:08,407 --> 00:40:10,006 other than get to it, good luck. 1093 00:40:10,075 --> 00:40:12,075 Have fun. - So who's going where? 1094 00:40:12,144 --> 00:40:13,910 Daryl, are you going to Montreal? 1095 00:40:13,979 --> 00:40:15,412 Apryl, are you going to Ohio? 1096 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,480 Like, what is the tea? What's the plan? 1097 00:40:17,549 --> 00:40:18,748 - I'm leaving. 1098 00:40:18,817 --> 00:40:20,383 - So you're ready to fly up there? 1099 00:40:20,452 --> 00:40:21,451 - Yep. 1100 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,420 - I got a ton of frequent flyer points. 1101 00:40:23,488 --> 00:40:25,321 So you tell me as soon as that can happen, 1102 00:40:25,390 --> 00:40:26,990 and I will make sure it happens. 1103 00:40:27,058 --> 00:40:29,759 - Today. [laughter] 1104 00:40:29,828 --> 00:40:30,894 He's like, "Tonight." 1105 00:40:30,962 --> 00:40:32,962 - Thank you, guys, so much for this. 1106 00:40:33,031 --> 00:40:35,565 - I guess that's it for us. - Yep. 1107 00:40:35,634 --> 00:40:36,800 - Bye, guys. 1108 00:40:36,868 --> 00:40:38,868 - Bye. - Bye. 1109 00:40:55,353 --> 00:40:57,153 - Michael's been talking to this guy Dustin. 1110 00:40:57,222 --> 00:40:59,088 He's been stood up by Dustin five times. 1111 00:40:59,157 --> 00:41:01,090 - Michael. - If you have been lying, 1112 00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:02,559 I'm onto you. - He's married. 1113 00:41:02,627 --> 00:41:04,527 - What's uglier than possible divorce? 1114 00:41:04,596 --> 00:41:07,030 - We have an address in, like, part of downtown. 1115 00:41:07,098 --> 00:41:09,299 - I'll go check it out. - Turn right on Hope. 1116 00:41:09,367 --> 00:41:12,268 - Ooh, that is a warehouse. 1117 00:41:12,337 --> 00:41:14,036 What?