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- I got an email here
from Imari.
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"My career is on the line."
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- It's a rapper.
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- This person has been
on your show before.
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- So you're talking to someone
who was on "Catfish"
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as the catfish.
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- Yes.
- What?
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- Wow.
This goes way back.
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The last seven years.
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- People are coming for you.
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And they have been for years.
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- It's time to get to
the bottom of who's doing this.
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- It could literally be anyone.
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- I'm not ready for this.
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[line trilling]
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- Hey.
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- So you're the one.
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[dramatic musical sting]
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- ♪ Girl, if you don't wanna ♪
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♪ You better let him know ♪
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♪ Let him know ♪
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- Aye-yo.
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♪ ♪
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[laughs]
[doorbell chimes]
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[laughs]
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What's up, Kamala?
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- It's Kamie-la.
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- Kamie-la.
- Thank you very much.
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- [laughs]
I think it's safe to say
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that Joe and Kamala
watch "Catfish."
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- It feels like a lot
of the stuff they ran on
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is based on what we do.
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- [laughs]
- Seek a truth
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and hold people accountable.
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And encourage unity.
- Unity.
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- So we are an extension
of the executive branch.
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- We're there.
I mean, we should be
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filming this from
the White House right now,
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but COVID restrictions.
[laughs]
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- Let's open
the old email here.
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Here we go.
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I got an email here from Imari.
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"My career is on the line.
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- Oh, God.
It's a rapper.
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- Oh, boy.
- Or a porn star.
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- "Dear Nev and Kamie,
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"My name is Imari.
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"I'm a 22-year-old
singer/songwriter from Ohio.
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"And three months ago,
I reached out
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"to a fellow artist online
who I really look up to.
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"At first, I just thought it
could be cool to talk to her.
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"But we really hit it off,
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"and now we text every day.
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"She even asked me to send her
some of my music,
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"and after hearing it,
really wants me
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"to record with her.
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"I'm thrilled, of course.
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- ♪ Not right now,
but maybe down the line ♪
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- "I was really looking forward
to going to"--guess where.
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Recording artist,
possible catfish.
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- Atlanta.
- Yeah!
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- Of course.
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- ♪ Not right now,
but maybe down the line ♪
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- "Something feels off,
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"and I don't know
if I should go.
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"She refuses to videochat
or talk on the phone.
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"Now normally, I wouldn't be
this suspicious.
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"But this person has
a shady past.
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I know she's
catfished people before..."
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♪ ♪
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Because she was on your show."
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- What are we doing here?
- What?
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"That's why I'm writing to you
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"because you're probably
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"the only people
who could help.
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"I would love for you guys
to help me know the truth.
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"I really am putting my music
career on the line here.
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Hope to hear from you,
Imari."
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- ♪ Maybe down the line ♪
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- First of all, Imari,
you're playing yourself.
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You want to be hooked up
with a catfish--what?
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- Let's just get in touch
with Imari.
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"Just read your email
and have so much questions.
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Jump on our Zoom."
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Wait a second.
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Who was on our show
that's a musician?
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- You guys did an episode
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where you went
to a recording studio, right?
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- Well--
- But that was a guy.
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- That was Kidd Cole.
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Is someone catfishing Imari,
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pretending to be a catfish?
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This is so confusing.
- I don't get it.
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[doorbell chimes]
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Hey!
- Hey!
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- You look gorgeous.
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- So do you.
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- I wanna copy/paste
those braids
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onto my head right now.
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- Imari, you are in Ohio.
Is that right?
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- I am.
I'm in Columbus.
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- Is the music industry popping
in Ohio?
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- Not as much as I would like.
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We have a few stars
out of here.
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- Well, I was born
in Cleveland.
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Stars can come out of Ohio.
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- Of course.
Of course.
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- Okay, so wait a second.
Enough small talk.
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If I read your email right,
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you're saying that someone
who was on "Catfish"
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as the catfish...
- Yeah.
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- Is seemingly catfishing you
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even though they are
already known to be a catfish.
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Give us the whole story.
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- This person has also been
on other shows,
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"106 & Park," to be specific.
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I used it to watch it
all the time when I was a kid.
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- Okay.
- It was, like, the thing to do
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in the morning before school.
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- I'm trying to figure out
who this person is.
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- Okay, so obviously
when you say "106 & Park,"
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that, for me, meant okay--
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it has to be
from the Bow Wow episode.
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Is it Dee Pimpin?
- Shut the [bleep] up.
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- Is it Dee Pimpin
or is it Keyonna?
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- It's Dee Pimpin.
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- Oh.
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- I'm the type
I like a challenge.
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I like straight girls
to see what I can do.
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- I mean, the last time
we heard from Dee Pimpin,
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we did, like, a
"Where Are They Now?" episode.
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Someone tried to break in
or steal her bag or something,
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and she got shot.
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- My little self
with a .45 caliber.
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The bullet hit me right here,
and it went out my back.
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- Why are they trying
to take out Dee Pimpin?
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- He was trying to rob me,
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trying to go in my pockets,
take my chain, and everything.
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- She survived.
She was okay.
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But, like, I didn't know
she was still rapping.
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I can't believe it.
- What?
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- How did you come across
Dee Pimpin?
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- I've messaged
celebrities before
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to just say, like, "Oh, hey.
I love your stuff"
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or "You inspired me."
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And sometimes they do respond,
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and sometimes
they do like the message.
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So I messaged her on Facebook,
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and we started messaging
pretty frequently.
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- So you saw Dee Pimpin
on "106 & Park..."
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- Dee Pimpin.
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- Became a fan, and eventually
decided to reach out?
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- Yeah.
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- There are obviously
a lot of artists
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that you could reach out to.
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What was it about her?
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- I really liked, you know,
her style of rap.
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This is a person that I think
is really cool and talented.
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And then I started
following her on Facebook.
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And I seen her engaging
with people,
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so I thought, like, she would
be the type to respond.
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And we started messaging
pretty frequently.
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- You said she has a lot
of followers on there?
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- Yeah, yeah.
- Do you have your phone handy?
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Can you plug it in and show us?
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- This is it.
both: Okay.
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- She's got
almost 20,000 followers.
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- You messaged her first?
- Mm-hmm.
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- And then she messaged
you back from this page.
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- Yeah.
- Have you talked to her
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on any other social media sites
other than Facebook?
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- No, after we started
messaging on Facebook,
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we moved to text messages.
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We started talking every day.
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She was super nice and sweet.
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She was really down to earth,
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so I found it very easy
to talk to her.
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- Have you been asking her
to FaceTime?
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Have you pressed her
to get on the phone
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or to videochat?
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- One time, when I tried
to call her, she didn't answer.
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Then she texted me later on
saying, like,
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"Oh, I just caught up
in some stuff.
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You know I'm gonna
call you back later."
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But she never did
call me back.
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But I was just like,
I know that she's busy,
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so I'm not gonna
take it personally.
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- And when you guys text,
is it just friendly,
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or is it--what's the content
of your messages?
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- We just talk about life
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and mainly music.
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- Do you date girls?
- I don't.
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- But you know that Dee tends
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to hit on straight girls.
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- Mm-hmm.
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- Now that's something
I didn't know.
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- Wait, so--okay,
so wait a second.
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I mean, you saw her episode
of "Catfish," right?
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- I did know that
it was out there,
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but I haven't seen it myself.
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- What?
Why didn't you watch it?
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- I'm kind of scared
to watch it.
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I don't wanna know what was,
like, on there, you know?
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- Well, let me fill you in.
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She would oftentimes find girls
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who thought she was a guy
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and even go as far
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to secretly put on
a strap-on dildo underneath...
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- Strapping up.
- No.
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- Underneath a pair of boxers.
- No.
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- And then have sex
with the women.
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- It's, like,
a real lambskin dildo.
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It's like human skin.
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But it's lamb.
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And, like, it feels real.
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Like, I've fooled a lot
of chicks like that.
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- Oh, my God.
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- I don't know if she's still
doing stuff like that
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or if that was a little phase
she went through.
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We just got the impression
that, you know,
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Dee was a bit of a scoundrel.
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She's a scoundrel.
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- I'm a bit taken aback
by this information.
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Wow.
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- So she saw your messages.
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You just said, "Hey, I'm a fan.
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I'm an artist, like,
I'm inspired by your work."
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And then she responded.
How did it progress?
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- So she was just asking me
about my music
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and where I'm from.
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I sent her my music,
and she was like,
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"This is good.
We should collab."
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- And your email said
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you're planning on going
to Atlanta to visit her.
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- Yeah, I am planning a trip
to go to Atlanta.
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She was like,
"I could show you around.
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We could go to the studio."
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And I got really excited.
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I hold my music very, very near
and dear to my heart,
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but making music is expensive.
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When I made my first EP,
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I put, like,
every cent I had into that.
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- And you're spending
your last dime on a trip
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to meet who the hell knows
in Atlanta?
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- Yep.
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- You're not just putting
your whole career on the line.
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This could be dangerous.
- Right.
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- I know that, um,
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it's weird to talk to somebody
for months and not see them,
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but they really can jumpstart
my musical career.
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[tense music]
252
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- [laughs]
- [sighs]
253
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I mean--
- Not the sighs.
254
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- No, I mean, look--
- Not the deep sigh.
255
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- Even--okay, look.
- The deepest sigh.
256
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- Even if there was
no shadow of a doubt
257
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that it was her,
I'd still sigh
258
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because, like, the last
impression I have of her is,
259
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like, she's not the kind
of person you wanna count on
260
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to deliver on what she says.
261
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But that was a long time ago,
262
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so I wanna give her
a second chance.
263
00:09:01,842 --> 00:09:03,808
And I wanna believe that
she's not just telling you
264
00:09:03,877 --> 00:09:05,277
all this stuff
because she thinks you're hot
265
00:09:05,345 --> 00:09:07,379
and wants you to come
to Atlanta so she can...
266
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- Strap up.
- Child.
267
00:09:10,050 --> 00:09:11,883
- I'm just saying.
- Mm mm mm mm.
268
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- That was the last thing
I saw.
269
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- Right.
270
00:09:14,121 --> 00:09:15,854
But here's what's
so interesting.
271
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If that actually
is Dee Pimpin's
272
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actual Facebook page,
273
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there'd be no reason
why she'd be shady
274
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and not, like,
calling or videochatting.
275
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So does that mean that
someone's got a catfish page
276
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of Dee Pimpin
277
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and that you're not even
talking to the real Dee?
278
00:09:33,774 --> 00:09:35,307
- If you're not talking to Dee,
279
00:09:35,375 --> 00:09:37,442
and you're not talking
to some rando in Atlanta
280
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who has plans on picking you up
from the airport
281
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and taking you
to God knows where,
282
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that could be very dangerous.
283
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- Always a safety thing.
284
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If I'm going to come
and meet you in person,
285
00:09:48,221 --> 00:09:50,455
I feel like I need to be able
to trust you.
286
00:09:50,524 --> 00:09:52,724
- Right, well also, you are
trying to take your career
287
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to the next level
288
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if you're gonna be
sending someone your music.
289
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- Right.
290
00:09:57,097 --> 00:09:58,363
- Like, the industry
is sheisty.
291
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- Oh, definitely, definitely.
292
00:09:59,766 --> 00:10:01,066
- Like, my boyfriend's
in the music industry.
293
00:10:01,134 --> 00:10:02,767
People steal [bleep]
all the time.
294
00:10:02,836 --> 00:10:05,470
So, like, you sending,
you know, beats
295
00:10:05,539 --> 00:10:07,439
or music, lyrics, whatever,
296
00:10:07,507 --> 00:10:10,475
somebody could easily take them
and use them for themselves.
297
00:10:10,544 --> 00:10:12,277
You can't ever be too safe.
298
00:10:12,346 --> 00:10:13,578
- Exactly.
299
00:10:13,647 --> 00:10:16,948
Like, if I just went,
it could be anybody.
300
00:10:17,017 --> 00:10:19,150
And I have to know the truth.
301
00:10:19,219 --> 00:10:21,353
- Well, look, I mean,
the good news is
302
00:10:21,421 --> 00:10:23,088
if it is Dee,
303
00:10:23,156 --> 00:10:25,924
it should be really easy
for us to prove that
304
00:10:25,993 --> 00:10:28,059
because I have
her number still
305
00:10:28,128 --> 00:10:30,028
from when we made the episode.
306
00:10:30,097 --> 00:10:31,630
So we could just call her
307
00:10:31,698 --> 00:10:34,232
and save ourselves
a lot of time.
308
00:10:34,301 --> 00:10:36,501
- This is it.
This is crunch time.
309
00:10:36,570 --> 00:10:38,903
- This could be the shortest
episode we've ever done.
310
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- Let's call and see.
311
00:10:40,173 --> 00:10:42,907
- I'm not ready for this
right now at all.
312
00:10:42,976 --> 00:10:45,210
[line trilling]
313
00:10:45,278 --> 00:10:46,778
[tense music]
314
00:10:47,781 --> 00:10:49,781
- Hello.
Is this Dee?
315
00:10:50,851 --> 00:10:52,017
- It's Dee!
316
00:10:52,619 --> 00:10:54,319
- [laughing]
317
00:10:54,388 --> 00:10:55,487
- Oh, my God.
318
00:10:55,555 --> 00:10:56,755
- I can't believe--
319
00:10:56,823 --> 00:10:59,190
I can't believe I'm talking
to Dee Pimpin.
320
00:11:01,662 --> 00:11:03,461
- Hold on.
321
00:11:03,530 --> 00:11:05,030
Can you get on a Zoom call?
322
00:11:06,299 --> 00:11:09,234
- Great, I'm gonna send you
a link real quick.
323
00:11:09,836 --> 00:11:11,436
- All right, all right.
Great, great, great.
324
00:11:11,505 --> 00:11:12,871
Oh, my God.
325
00:11:12,939 --> 00:11:14,205
- I'm sweating.
326
00:11:14,274 --> 00:11:15,273
- As soon as she comes
on the Zoom,
327
00:11:15,342 --> 00:11:16,675
she should know who you are,
right?
328
00:11:16,743 --> 00:11:18,109
- Mm-hmm.
329
00:11:18,178 --> 00:11:20,278
- If not, she's definitely
gonna want you.
330
00:11:20,347 --> 00:11:21,479
- [laughs]
331
00:11:21,548 --> 00:11:22,781
♪ ♪
332
00:11:22,849 --> 00:11:23,948
[doorbell chimes]
333
00:11:24,017 --> 00:11:25,517
- Uh!
- [laughs]
334
00:11:25,585 --> 00:11:26,885
- Oh!
335
00:11:28,121 --> 00:11:29,888
- Hey.
What's good?
336
00:11:29,956 --> 00:11:31,423
What's good, what's good,
what's good?
337
00:11:31,491 --> 00:11:32,657
- What's up, Dee?
338
00:11:32,726 --> 00:11:34,225
- What's up, Nev?
339
00:11:34,294 --> 00:11:36,127
- [laughing]
340
00:11:36,196 --> 00:11:38,029
- How you doing, Kamie?
It's good to see you as well.
341
00:11:38,098 --> 00:11:39,931
- And this is Imari.
342
00:11:41,668 --> 00:11:42,901
- Nice to finally see you
as well.
343
00:11:42,969 --> 00:11:43,935
[dramatic music]
344
00:11:44,004 --> 00:11:45,236
- Now wait a second.
345
00:11:45,305 --> 00:11:46,805
Do you know Imari?
346
00:11:46,873 --> 00:11:48,039
♪ ♪
347
00:11:49,276 --> 00:11:50,241
- What's up, Dee?
348
00:11:50,310 --> 00:11:53,311
- What's up Nev?
- [laughing]
349
00:11:53,380 --> 00:11:55,113
- Good to see you.
I'm Kamie.
350
00:11:55,182 --> 00:11:57,148
- How you doing, Kamie?
It's good to see you as well.
351
00:11:57,217 --> 00:11:58,917
- And this is Imari.
352
00:12:00,620 --> 00:12:01,953
- Nice to finally see you
as well.
353
00:12:05,592 --> 00:12:07,659
- Now wait a second.
Do you know Imari?
354
00:12:07,728 --> 00:12:09,828
What do you mean when you say,
"Nice to finally see you?"
355
00:12:09,896 --> 00:12:11,262
- I don't know.
I'm just saying
356
00:12:11,331 --> 00:12:12,297
nice to finally see you
as well.
357
00:12:12,365 --> 00:12:14,232
- [laughing]
358
00:12:14,301 --> 00:12:15,266
- You know, that's the charm.
359
00:12:15,335 --> 00:12:16,601
You know, it's just the charm.
360
00:12:16,670 --> 00:12:17,902
- It is.
It's the charm.
361
00:12:17,971 --> 00:12:19,904
It's the charm.
Okay, so hold on a second.
362
00:12:19,973 --> 00:12:22,507
We've got something serious
we need to discuss.
363
00:12:22,576 --> 00:12:26,444
Imari, who is a singer
and songwriter,
364
00:12:26,513 --> 00:12:28,179
was a fan...
- Okay.
365
00:12:28,248 --> 00:12:31,082
- And started messaging someone
off of a Facebook page
366
00:12:31,151 --> 00:12:33,284
that she believed to be yours.
367
00:12:33,353 --> 00:12:34,352
[dramatic music]
368
00:12:34,421 --> 00:12:35,854
And then they've been texting.
369
00:12:35,922 --> 00:12:37,789
They've been talking
about making music together,
370
00:12:37,858 --> 00:12:40,358
and Imari was thinking
about going to Atlanta
371
00:12:40,427 --> 00:12:41,893
because you had said
372
00:12:41,962 --> 00:12:43,895
that you would want to do
a collab with her.
373
00:12:43,964 --> 00:12:45,563
- I'm sorry.
374
00:12:45,632 --> 00:12:46,698
It's definitely not me.
375
00:12:46,767 --> 00:12:48,600
Like, that Facebook page,
376
00:12:48,668 --> 00:12:50,201
people been trying to extort me
for money and everything
377
00:12:50,270 --> 00:12:51,569
for years about that page.
378
00:12:51,638 --> 00:12:53,071
- Oh, so you've heard of it?
379
00:12:54,107 --> 00:12:55,840
You can give us
- Thfive bands for it."eah.
380
00:12:55,909 --> 00:12:56,975
Like, nah.
381
00:12:58,044 --> 00:12:59,410
- So the Facebook page
I that has, like,."
382
00:12:59,479 --> 00:13:01,913
19,000 followers,
that's not yours?
383
00:13:01,982 --> 00:13:04,516
- Yeah, like, he took my name
on Facebook--
384
00:13:04,584 --> 00:13:07,051
he or she, whoever it is--
they took my name,
385
00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,487
so now I can't even use my name
on Facebook anymore.
386
00:13:09,556 --> 00:13:10,855
And, like, Facebook, like,
387
00:13:10,924 --> 00:13:12,857
they thought that
that was the original one.
388
00:13:12,926 --> 00:13:13,892
Which it had a lot
of followers,
389
00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,927
so I wouldn't blame 'em,
but it's not me.
390
00:13:15,996 --> 00:13:18,129
Like, could you tell whoever it
is, like, give it to me
391
00:13:18,198 --> 00:13:19,597
because it's not me?
392
00:13:19,666 --> 00:13:22,100
- So somebody is, like,
dedicating their life and time
393
00:13:22,169 --> 00:13:23,401
to, like, being fake you.
394
00:13:23,470 --> 00:13:24,836
- Yeah, basically.
- Wow.
395
00:13:24,905 --> 00:13:26,638
How--and that page
has been up a while.
396
00:13:26,706 --> 00:13:28,006
- Yeah, it's been up
a long time.
397
00:13:28,074 --> 00:13:30,708
- But do you have a page
for yourself?
398
00:13:30,777 --> 00:13:32,610
- They took my name,
so now I can't even use
399
00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,445
my name on Facebook anymore.
400
00:13:34,514 --> 00:13:36,848
- We gotta get that page.
- Yeah.
401
00:13:36,917 --> 00:13:38,950
- So you're saying
when you first found out
402
00:13:39,019 --> 00:13:41,419
that there was a fake
Dee Pimpin page,
403
00:13:41,488 --> 00:13:43,121
you got in touch with them,
and they said,
404
00:13:43,190 --> 00:13:45,523
"Oh, we'll give you the page
if you give us money."
405
00:13:47,394 --> 00:13:48,726
- Like, I had a manager
at the time.
406
00:13:48,795 --> 00:13:50,829
But I don't work
with Tony anymore.
407
00:13:50,897 --> 00:13:53,231
- Was it a bad falling out?
- Yeah.
408
00:13:53,300 --> 00:13:54,632
He still think we cool.
409
00:13:54,701 --> 00:13:56,000
He still think, like,
everything is good with us
410
00:13:56,069 --> 00:13:57,836
but I can't
trust him anymore.
411
00:13:57,904 --> 00:13:59,604
- Man, I wonder
how do we even know
412
00:13:59,673 --> 00:14:01,472
that your manager
really did talk to them?
413
00:14:01,541 --> 00:14:02,807
- That's what I'm saying too,
like--
414
00:14:02,876 --> 00:14:04,676
- Or that your manager
didn't make the page?
415
00:14:04,744 --> 00:14:06,611
- Or that your manager
wasn't just saying that
416
00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:07,979
to get whatever money
417
00:14:08,048 --> 00:14:09,848
from you that you
were gonna send to them.
418
00:14:09,916 --> 00:14:12,083
- What's Tony's phone number?
419
00:14:12,152 --> 00:14:13,718
- Uh...
420
00:14:13,787 --> 00:14:15,220
- Imari,
I'm just curious to see
421
00:14:15,288 --> 00:14:17,622
if it's the same phone number
you have for Dee.
422
00:14:17,691 --> 00:14:19,057
[dramatic music]
423
00:14:19,125 --> 00:14:21,292
- Um, 404...
424
00:14:21,361 --> 00:14:23,094
♪ ♪
425
00:14:23,163 --> 00:14:25,129
- Uh-oh.
426
00:14:25,198 --> 00:14:26,397
- 599.
427
00:14:26,466 --> 00:14:28,099
- Oh.
- Okay.
428
00:14:28,168 --> 00:14:29,500
- It's not the same number.
429
00:14:29,569 --> 00:14:31,502
- Whew!
- Not the same one.
430
00:14:31,571 --> 00:14:34,639
- Well, this is now much bigger
431
00:14:34,708 --> 00:14:36,040
than what we thought.
432
00:14:36,109 --> 00:14:37,909
- Well, I wanna
find out though.
433
00:14:37,978 --> 00:14:40,011
- Yeah.
- You're not the only one.
434
00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,747
- Have they ever asked you
for money, Imari?
435
00:14:42,816 --> 00:14:45,383
- No.
They haven't.
436
00:14:45,452 --> 00:14:47,352
They only just asked me, like,
437
00:14:47,420 --> 00:14:50,088
when I was coming,
if I was still coming and...
438
00:14:50,156 --> 00:14:51,155
- I'm sorry.
439
00:14:51,224 --> 00:14:52,557
- It seems like this
440
00:14:52,626 --> 00:14:54,692
is completely
out of your control so...
441
00:14:54,761 --> 00:14:55,827
- You didn't ever try to,
like,
442
00:14:55,896 --> 00:14:57,262
videochat them or anything,
like?
443
00:14:57,330 --> 00:14:58,997
- No, I mean, I tried to call.
444
00:14:59,065 --> 00:14:59,864
No answer.
445
00:14:59,933 --> 00:15:01,032
I didn't wanna really press it
446
00:15:01,101 --> 00:15:02,901
because I thought
I was talking to you.
447
00:15:02,969 --> 00:15:05,270
You might be busy
doing things, you know.
448
00:15:05,338 --> 00:15:06,704
You're in the mix,
449
00:15:06,773 --> 00:15:08,840
so I didn't wanna press down,
you know, too much.
450
00:15:08,909 --> 00:15:11,809
But they never called me back.
451
00:15:11,878 --> 00:15:14,479
- I saw your episode,
and you know,
452
00:15:14,547 --> 00:15:15,546
you was up to no good.
453
00:15:15,615 --> 00:15:16,948
- I know, I know,
I know, I know.
454
00:15:17,017 --> 00:15:20,285
- So could it be someone
trying to get revenge on you
455
00:15:20,353 --> 00:15:22,987
for how you were
back in the day?
456
00:15:23,056 --> 00:15:25,590
- When was the last time you
communicated with that page?
457
00:15:25,659 --> 00:15:28,059
- Sh, uh, it's been years ago.
458
00:15:28,128 --> 00:15:30,328
Like, after they kept saying
about the money,
459
00:15:30,397 --> 00:15:32,730
pushing the issue about money,
I left it alone.
460
00:15:32,799 --> 00:15:34,933
- It's time to get to
the bottom of who's doing this.
461
00:15:35,001 --> 00:15:36,634
- Just give me my main.
It's only me.
462
00:15:36,703 --> 00:15:38,736
Just give me back me.
Give me me!
463
00:15:38,805 --> 00:15:39,837
- All right, so you get
in touch with Tony.
464
00:15:39,906 --> 00:15:40,872
- Okay.
465
00:15:40,941 --> 00:15:42,240
- We'll start doing
some research.
466
00:15:42,309 --> 00:15:45,109
And then collectively, I think
we can figure this out.
467
00:15:45,178 --> 00:15:46,711
- Yeah, we got to.
We have to.
468
00:15:46,780 --> 00:15:49,080
- Thanks, Dee.
- All right, y'all welcome.
469
00:15:49,149 --> 00:15:51,649
- [sighs]
470
00:15:51,718 --> 00:15:53,885
- This sucks.
- Yeah.
471
00:15:53,954 --> 00:15:56,587
It's whack that
you've wasted time.
472
00:15:56,656 --> 00:15:58,189
What are they trying
to get out of this?
473
00:15:58,258 --> 00:15:59,524
- Apparently me to come
to Atlanta
474
00:15:59,592 --> 00:16:01,159
because they kept asking
about it.
475
00:16:01,227 --> 00:16:03,861
- The fact that this person
has been so adamant
476
00:16:03,930 --> 00:16:06,731
about getting you to come
to Atlanta
477
00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,232
right from the bat.
478
00:16:08,301 --> 00:16:09,634
And you have no idea
479
00:16:09,703 --> 00:16:11,002
who would've been there
waiting for you.
480
00:16:11,071 --> 00:16:12,904
That's so dangerous.
- Right.
481
00:16:12,973 --> 00:16:14,973
- All right, well look.
Imari, hang in there.
482
00:16:15,041 --> 00:16:16,741
We'll start working
and let you know
483
00:16:16,810 --> 00:16:17,875
as soon as we find something.
484
00:16:17,944 --> 00:16:19,744
- You got it.
- All right.
485
00:16:19,813 --> 00:16:21,479
- Wow.
What do you think?
486
00:16:21,548 --> 00:16:22,880
- You said it yourself.
487
00:16:22,949 --> 00:16:26,651
Like, Dee has a reputation
for being up to no good.
488
00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,886
She could just be pretending
not to know Imari
489
00:16:28,955 --> 00:16:31,389
because she knows that
she's been up to some [bleep]
490
00:16:31,458 --> 00:16:32,757
on this Facebook page.
491
00:16:32,826 --> 00:16:34,692
Maybe this is, like,
her way of trying
492
00:16:34,761 --> 00:16:36,260
"to clear her name,"
493
00:16:36,329 --> 00:16:38,262
but it is actually her.
494
00:16:38,331 --> 00:16:39,998
She has a reputation.
495
00:16:40,066 --> 00:16:41,599
Whoever is behind all of this
496
00:16:41,668 --> 00:16:43,267
is up to no good,
that's for sure.
497
00:16:43,336 --> 00:16:44,235
[dramatic music]
498
00:16:45,939 --> 00:16:47,839
- Okay, so we got
some work to do
499
00:16:47,907 --> 00:16:49,474
although this is different
500
00:16:49,542 --> 00:16:52,176
because we already know
right off the bat
501
00:16:52,245 --> 00:16:54,946
that Imari is not talking
to Dee Pimpin.
502
00:16:55,015 --> 00:16:56,381
- Allegedly.
503
00:16:56,449 --> 00:16:57,749
- Right.
- I don't know.
504
00:16:57,817 --> 00:16:59,484
I don't wanna throw Dee
under the bus
505
00:16:59,552 --> 00:17:02,186
'cause she could very well just
be a victim in all of this.
506
00:17:02,255 --> 00:17:04,589
But, like, Dee has a reputation
507
00:17:04,657 --> 00:17:06,357
for being up to no good.
508
00:17:06,426 --> 00:17:07,859
[computer chimes]
- Oh, wait.
509
00:17:07,927 --> 00:17:09,894
Okay.
Texts from Dee.
510
00:17:09,963 --> 00:17:11,162
"I tried to get
in touch with Tony.
511
00:17:11,231 --> 00:17:12,964
I don't know if he'll want
to talk to you."
512
00:17:13,033 --> 00:17:15,767
She gave us his number
and his Facebook.
513
00:17:15,835 --> 00:17:18,603
So we can, I guess, reach out
514
00:17:18,671 --> 00:17:20,505
to Dee's former manager, Tony.
515
00:17:20,573 --> 00:17:23,241
And then Imari sent us
516
00:17:23,309 --> 00:17:26,010
the phone number
that she has for Dee
517
00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:28,079
and the Facebook page.
518
00:17:28,148 --> 00:17:30,648
All right, so I'm gonna copy
the phone number
519
00:17:30,717 --> 00:17:33,384
that Imari's been talking
520
00:17:33,453 --> 00:17:34,986
"to the fake Dee on."
521
00:17:35,055 --> 00:17:36,487
All right,
and I'm gonna search the--
522
00:17:36,556 --> 00:17:39,023
so this is the fake
Dee Pimpin number.
523
00:17:39,092 --> 00:17:40,958
Let's see who comes up.
524
00:17:41,027 --> 00:17:42,026
[dramatic music]
525
00:17:42,095 --> 00:17:44,562
- Eric Johnson.
- Hm.
526
00:17:44,631 --> 00:17:46,264
Georgia--Atlanta.
527
00:17:46,332 --> 00:17:48,066
- There's probably
a million Eric Johnsons
528
00:17:48,134 --> 00:17:49,700
that live in Atlanta.
529
00:17:49,769 --> 00:17:51,202
- I know.
530
00:17:51,271 --> 00:17:53,237
Uh, all right.
531
00:17:53,306 --> 00:17:54,739
Well, let's just go
to the Facebook page.
532
00:17:54,808 --> 00:17:55,873
- Yes.
- All right.
533
00:17:55,942 --> 00:17:58,176
So this is the page
534
00:17:58,244 --> 00:18:00,912
that Imari has been
talking with.
535
00:18:00,980 --> 00:18:03,214
Wow.
This goes way back.
536
00:18:03,283 --> 00:18:05,316
For the last seven years,
537
00:18:05,385 --> 00:18:08,519
there's been a lot of people
commenting on this page
538
00:18:08,588 --> 00:18:10,021
thinking it's her.
539
00:18:10,090 --> 00:18:11,856
"I love your music.
Get at me."
540
00:18:11,925 --> 00:18:13,091
Wow.
541
00:18:13,159 --> 00:18:15,493
This page has some
serious engagement.
542
00:18:15,562 --> 00:18:17,261
- Now it just looks
like somebody else
543
00:18:17,330 --> 00:18:20,164
has had this page
for seven years.
544
00:18:20,233 --> 00:18:22,533
Could it be the manager
that she had during that time?
545
00:18:22,602 --> 00:18:23,701
- Right.
Tony.
546
00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:25,803
- Maybe Tony felt like
547
00:18:25,872 --> 00:18:27,572
he didn't get X, Y, and Z
548
00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,006
that he felt like
he deserved to get,
549
00:18:29,075 --> 00:18:31,576
and maybe this is his revenge?
550
00:18:31,644 --> 00:18:32,543
- Let's hit up Tony.
551
00:18:33,813 --> 00:18:35,913
"Hey, Tony.
This is Nev from 'Catfish.'
552
00:18:35,982 --> 00:18:38,916
"Hoping you could help us out.
553
00:18:38,985 --> 00:18:41,686
Let me know."
Okay.
554
00:18:41,754 --> 00:18:44,288
All right.
Texted Tony.
555
00:18:44,357 --> 00:18:46,290
All right.
We're back on the Dee page.
556
00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,459
We haven't really looked
through it that closely.
557
00:18:48,528 --> 00:18:50,161
All right.
So here are the pictures.
558
00:18:50,230 --> 00:18:52,897
- She got a lot of comments
and engagement back in the day.
559
00:18:52,966 --> 00:18:53,931
- Yeah, right?
560
00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,666
I mean, it feels pretty legit.
561
00:18:55,735 --> 00:18:57,034
- It does.
562
00:18:57,103 --> 00:18:59,370
- I mean, I would assume
this was her page.
563
00:18:59,439 --> 00:19:01,439
- Look.
Two of Dee's songs.
564
00:19:01,508 --> 00:19:05,042
And a song called "CatFish"
that features KeeZY.
565
00:19:05,111 --> 00:19:06,511
Who is KeeZY?
566
00:19:06,579 --> 00:19:09,647
- And then they tagged
this Jaylenz person.
567
00:19:09,716 --> 00:19:11,315
Who is this?
568
00:19:11,384 --> 00:19:14,385
Hmm.
Nothing really on this page.
569
00:19:14,454 --> 00:19:15,720
- Let's check out those videos.
570
00:19:15,788 --> 00:19:17,989
Click the BET one.
571
00:19:18,458 --> 00:19:20,925
- ♪ Yeah, it be like
step, step back ♪
572
00:19:20,994 --> 00:19:22,927
♪ Who that is, Lil Pimpin ♪
573
00:19:22,996 --> 00:19:24,328
♪ It's like a damn movie ♪
574
00:19:24,397 --> 00:19:26,264
- Yep, yep, yep.
575
00:19:26,332 --> 00:19:28,499
♪ Head held high,
got my ego talking to me ♪
576
00:19:28,568 --> 00:19:30,234
- Okay, I'm not even
trying to be funny.
577
00:19:30,303 --> 00:19:33,404
Dee Pimpin does sound like
a young Bow Wow.
578
00:19:33,473 --> 00:19:35,907
Okay, so now let's listen
to Dee's other track
579
00:19:35,975 --> 00:19:37,775
with KeeZY and Jaylenz.
580
00:19:37,844 --> 00:19:40,244
[distorted rapping]
581
00:19:40,313 --> 00:19:41,746
- ♪ Snatch snatch your CV on ♪
582
00:19:41,814 --> 00:19:42,780
♪ Dee Pimpin press-- ♪
583
00:19:42,849 --> 00:19:44,315
- That's not Dee's voice.
584
00:19:44,384 --> 00:19:45,783
- It didn't really sound
like her, right?
585
00:19:45,852 --> 00:19:46,918
- Who the [bleep] is that?
586
00:19:46,986 --> 00:19:48,152
- ♪ So I sleep by the phone ♪
587
00:19:48,221 --> 00:19:49,453
♪ MCB, I got DMs--♪
588
00:19:49,522 --> 00:19:51,289
- Not even a little bit.
- So that's weird.
589
00:19:51,357 --> 00:19:53,991
So that means that
the fake Facebook page for Dee
590
00:19:54,060 --> 00:19:56,928
is posting fake
Dee Pimpin music.
591
00:19:56,996 --> 00:19:59,096
- Right.
- So it must be trying
592
00:19:59,165 --> 00:20:00,898
to promote music
that has some connection
593
00:20:00,967 --> 00:20:03,668
to the person who's actually
behind the page.
594
00:20:03,736 --> 00:20:05,403
- Jaylenz and KeeZY.
595
00:20:05,471 --> 00:20:08,739
These two have songs
"featuring Dee Pimpin"
596
00:20:08,808 --> 00:20:10,308
that aren't actually
featuring Dee Pimpin.
597
00:20:10,376 --> 00:20:11,209
- Yeah.
598
00:20:11,277 --> 00:20:13,544
- What if it's
this KeeZY person
599
00:20:13,613 --> 00:20:16,814
trying to use Dee's name
to push their music?
600
00:20:16,883 --> 00:20:18,282
- It could also just be that
601
00:20:18,351 --> 00:20:20,685
the doofus running
this fake page
602
00:20:20,753 --> 00:20:22,153
didn't even realize
603
00:20:22,222 --> 00:20:24,288
that those are not actually
Dee Pimpin tracks.
604
00:20:24,357 --> 00:20:25,523
And they just saw those...
- Ooh.
605
00:20:25,592 --> 00:20:26,958
- And were like, "Oh.
I should share this
606
00:20:27,026 --> 00:20:28,492
"because I'm supposed
to be Dee Pimpin,
607
00:20:28,561 --> 00:20:30,061
so I should share it."
- Mm.
608
00:20:30,129 --> 00:20:31,529
- And they didn't even realize
it wasn't her
609
00:20:31,598 --> 00:20:35,032
because they don't even know
what she should sound like.
610
00:20:35,101 --> 00:20:36,701
- We should ask Dee
about these two.
611
00:20:36,769 --> 00:20:37,835
[phone ringing]
- Oh.
612
00:20:37,904 --> 00:20:39,003
Now I'm getting--wait, hold on.
613
00:20:39,072 --> 00:20:40,571
I'm getting a phone call
from Georgia.
614
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,173
Hello?
615
00:20:42,242 --> 00:20:43,441
- Hey, this is Tony.
616
00:20:43,509 --> 00:20:44,508
I was looking to speak
with Nev?
617
00:20:44,577 --> 00:20:45,576
- Hey, Tony.
618
00:20:45,645 --> 00:20:47,812
We're, uh,
trying to help someone
619
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,647
who's become friends
with Dee Pimpin.
620
00:20:49,716 --> 00:20:50,781
- Uh-huh.
621
00:20:50,850 --> 00:20:52,283
- And when we talked to Dee,
622
00:20:52,352 --> 00:20:54,585
she said that when you guys
were working together,
623
00:20:54,654 --> 00:20:57,421
you were in contact
with someone
624
00:20:57,490 --> 00:21:00,091
who was controlling
the Dee Pimpin Facebook page.
625
00:21:00,159 --> 00:21:01,292
Do you remember all that?
626
00:21:24,717 --> 00:21:25,983
- Okay.
627
00:21:26,052 --> 00:21:28,319
Have you ever heard
of KeeZY or Jaylenz?
628
00:21:29,989 --> 00:21:31,756
- Okay.
I appreciate the help.
629
00:21:33,159 --> 00:21:34,091
- All right.
Thanks, Tony.
630
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,426
- Bye.
- Bye.
631
00:21:35,495 --> 00:21:37,995
All right, so we know that
632
00:21:38,064 --> 00:21:40,865
shortly after Dee's
"Catfish" episode aired,
633
00:21:40,933 --> 00:21:43,067
her business email got hacked.
634
00:21:43,136 --> 00:21:45,269
And whoever hacked it
tried to get Tony
635
00:21:45,338 --> 00:21:46,937
to buy it back.
636
00:21:47,006 --> 00:21:48,739
- If we believe Tony.
- True.
637
00:21:48,808 --> 00:21:50,374
But even if he
is telling the truth,
638
00:21:50,443 --> 00:21:52,043
we don't necessarily know
639
00:21:52,111 --> 00:21:54,245
that it was the same person who
then started the Facebook page.
640
00:21:54,314 --> 00:21:55,579
- What doesn't help us
is the fact
641
00:21:55,648 --> 00:21:59,116
that Dee at the time
had so many enemies
642
00:21:59,185 --> 00:22:00,718
that it could literally be..
643
00:22:00,787 --> 00:22:01,819
both: Anyone.
644
00:22:01,888 --> 00:22:03,521
[dramatic music]
645
00:22:05,191 --> 00:22:06,223
- So let's get Imari
back in here.
646
00:22:06,292 --> 00:22:08,192
And then maybe
we can bring in Dee.
647
00:22:08,261 --> 00:22:09,927
Explain everything
to everybody.
648
00:22:09,996 --> 00:22:13,130
And collectively decide what
we think the next best step is.
649
00:22:13,199 --> 00:22:14,532
'Cause this is a team now.
650
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,133
We got, you know,
we got a whole squad.
651
00:22:16,202 --> 00:22:18,002
- Let's collab.
- Yeah.
652
00:22:18,071 --> 00:22:19,103
[doorbell chimes]
653
00:22:19,172 --> 00:22:20,237
- Hi.
654
00:22:20,306 --> 00:22:21,672
- Hey.
- How's it going?
655
00:22:21,741 --> 00:22:23,007
- We wanna bring Dee in
656
00:22:23,076 --> 00:22:26,110
and kind of debrief both of you
on what's been going on.
657
00:22:26,179 --> 00:22:28,446
- And we wanted to talk
to you alone
658
00:22:28,514 --> 00:22:30,715
because for a minute,
we were thinking--okay.
659
00:22:30,783 --> 00:22:32,149
Is it possible
660
00:22:32,218 --> 00:22:33,884
that even though
we spoke to Dee,
661
00:22:33,953 --> 00:22:37,054
and she seemed very transparent
and honest
662
00:22:37,123 --> 00:22:38,356
about not knowing you,
663
00:22:38,424 --> 00:22:39,623
we thought is there
a chance that maybe
664
00:22:39,692 --> 00:22:41,759
she could be somehow
behind this or involved?
665
00:22:41,828 --> 00:22:43,728
- What does your gut tell you,
Imari?
666
00:22:43,796 --> 00:22:46,731
Do you feel like Dee could have
something to do with this?
667
00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:49,233
- I don't know, the whole story
she told earlier
668
00:22:49,302 --> 00:22:51,602
about not being able
to get the page
669
00:22:51,671 --> 00:22:54,772
and other people messaging her
asking for money about it,
670
00:22:54,841 --> 00:22:56,240
I--I believed her.
671
00:22:56,309 --> 00:22:59,243
- I don't want to think that
that is the case,
672
00:22:59,312 --> 00:23:00,411
but we can't rule it out.
673
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,380
She has a history
of dishonesty.
674
00:23:02,448 --> 00:23:04,749
We're stupid if we're not
a little suspicious.
675
00:23:04,817 --> 00:23:06,117
- Hm.
676
00:23:06,185 --> 00:23:07,818
- Right, so let me text Dee.
677
00:23:07,887 --> 00:23:10,888
- You gotta be careful.
- Well, yeah.
678
00:23:10,957 --> 00:23:12,723
I mean, especially if you're
679
00:23:12,792 --> 00:23:15,493
pursuing a career
in the music business.
680
00:23:15,561 --> 00:23:17,395
People are gonna try
to scam you all the time.
681
00:23:17,463 --> 00:23:18,396
- Right.
682
00:23:18,464 --> 00:23:20,431
- All right,
well let's bring in Dee.
683
00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:22,733
And we'll kind of just fill you
in on the rest
684
00:23:22,802 --> 00:23:24,135
and some of the things
that we're thinking.
685
00:23:24,203 --> 00:23:25,102
- Yes, sir.
- What's up?
686
00:23:25,171 --> 00:23:27,004
- Hi.
- Okay.
687
00:23:27,073 --> 00:23:30,641
So here's what
we've been doing.
688
00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:33,477
Obviously, we ran the number
that Imari gave us,
689
00:23:33,546 --> 00:23:37,515
and it did come back
to someone named Eric Johnson.
690
00:23:37,583 --> 00:23:39,650
But that's
a pretty generic name.
691
00:23:39,719 --> 00:23:41,419
There's no way
we can really search it.
692
00:23:41,487 --> 00:23:44,555
Anyway, so when we went
693
00:23:44,624 --> 00:23:46,557
to the fake Dee Pimpin page...
694
00:23:46,626 --> 00:23:47,458
- Okay.
695
00:23:47,527 --> 00:23:48,659
- We were just
scrolling through
696
00:23:48,728 --> 00:23:50,194
to see kind
of what was on there,
697
00:23:50,263 --> 00:23:53,364
and we saw
that they had posted a link
698
00:23:53,433 --> 00:23:57,234
to a YouTube music video
for a Dee Pimpin song
699
00:23:57,303 --> 00:23:59,170
featuring these
other two artists,
700
00:23:59,238 --> 00:24:01,038
Jaylenz and KeeZY.
701
00:24:01,107 --> 00:24:03,741
And when we listened to it,
there was a verse by Dee
702
00:24:03,810 --> 00:24:05,276
that didn't really sound
like you.
703
00:24:05,344 --> 00:24:06,944
- ♪ Snatch snatch your CV on ♪
704
00:24:07,013 --> 00:24:09,447
♪ Dee Pimpin,
press won't leave me alone ♪
705
00:24:09,515 --> 00:24:11,215
- Dee, is that your voice
on the track?
706
00:24:11,284 --> 00:24:13,350
Do you know these guys?
- Mm-mm.
707
00:24:13,419 --> 00:24:15,619
I ain't never of them
until today.
708
00:24:15,688 --> 00:24:19,023
- Now why would
the fake Dee Pimpin page
709
00:24:19,091 --> 00:24:21,725
post fake Dee Pimpin music?
710
00:24:21,794 --> 00:24:23,861
In my opinion,
there are two possibilities.
711
00:24:23,930 --> 00:24:25,496
One is because they're dumb
712
00:24:25,565 --> 00:24:28,365
and didn't even realize
that it wasn't actually Dee.
713
00:24:28,434 --> 00:24:30,901
They just posted it to make
the page feel more real.
714
00:24:30,970 --> 00:24:33,170
Or whoever's behind
715
00:24:33,239 --> 00:24:35,306
the fake Dee Pimpin page
716
00:24:35,374 --> 00:24:38,843
is or knows that artist
717
00:24:38,911 --> 00:24:40,911
and clearly realized that
718
00:24:40,980 --> 00:24:44,415
by pretending to be Dee
or to make music with Dee,
719
00:24:44,484 --> 00:24:47,751
they could get a lot of fans
and followers and views
720
00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:49,453
and potentially
make some money.
721
00:24:49,522 --> 00:24:51,322
- Yeah, it gotta have
something to do with it.
722
00:24:51,390 --> 00:24:52,423
- But I don't know.
723
00:24:52,492 --> 00:24:54,625
Dee, you have made enemies.
724
00:24:54,694 --> 00:24:56,260
People are coming for you,
725
00:24:56,329 --> 00:24:58,496
and they have been for years.
726
00:24:58,564 --> 00:25:00,364
- I ain't think of that.
But you right.
727
00:25:00,433 --> 00:25:02,366
- If this person is trying
728
00:25:02,435 --> 00:25:04,335
to get back at you
for something, Dee,
729
00:25:04,403 --> 00:25:06,237
why drag Imari into it?
730
00:25:06,305 --> 00:25:07,404
- That's what I'm saying.
731
00:25:07,473 --> 00:25:09,039
- Well, and Imari,
I mean, you're--
732
00:25:09,108 --> 00:25:11,509
you've become really good
friends with this person.
733
00:25:11,577 --> 00:25:13,477
- Yeah.
- And to some extent, Imari,
734
00:25:13,546 --> 00:25:16,180
they've been encouraging,
you know, and like, supportive.
735
00:25:16,249 --> 00:25:18,282
- Definitely.
100% encouraging
736
00:25:18,351 --> 00:25:20,417
all of my endeavors.
737
00:25:20,486 --> 00:25:24,288
- Whoever it is
isn't all bad.
738
00:25:24,357 --> 00:25:26,357
[tense music]
739
00:25:26,425 --> 00:25:28,058
Dee.
- Mm-hmm?
740
00:25:28,127 --> 00:25:29,493
- It's not you, is it?
741
00:25:29,562 --> 00:25:31,195
- Yeah.
Stop playing with me.
742
00:25:31,264 --> 00:25:32,363
Come on.
743
00:25:32,431 --> 00:25:33,998
- You're telling us the truth?
744
00:25:34,066 --> 00:25:35,232
- Definitely, definitely.
745
00:25:35,301 --> 00:25:36,800
- Because it's definitely
not you.
746
00:25:36,869 --> 00:25:38,836
- [laughs]
747
00:25:38,905 --> 00:25:41,272
- All right.
All right, so look.
748
00:25:41,340 --> 00:25:42,273
We gotta figure out
what we wanna do.
749
00:25:42,341 --> 00:25:43,774
I think we could just call.
750
00:25:43,843 --> 00:25:46,710
I mean, I don't--have you ever
just tried calling, Imari?
751
00:25:46,779 --> 00:25:50,281
- Yeah, and it rang,
rang, rang, voicemail.
752
00:25:50,349 --> 00:25:51,982
- But they know your number.
753
00:25:52,051 --> 00:25:53,417
They wouldn't know our number.
754
00:25:53,486 --> 00:25:55,986
- I'm gonna call.
You guys good with that?
755
00:25:57,023 --> 00:25:58,222
- They won't be able
to hear us, guys,
756
00:25:58,291 --> 00:25:59,256
but Nev will be able
to hear us.
757
00:25:59,325 --> 00:26:00,357
- Right, so you can talk to me.
758
00:26:00,426 --> 00:26:01,659
[line trilling]
759
00:26:01,727 --> 00:26:04,128
And you can hear them,
but they don't hear you.
760
00:26:04,196 --> 00:26:06,830
[tense music]
761
00:26:06,899 --> 00:26:08,799
[whispers]
Who should I ask for?
762
00:26:08,868 --> 00:26:09,900
♪ ♪
763
00:26:09,969 --> 00:26:11,001
- [whispers]
Dee.
764
00:26:12,738 --> 00:26:13,504
- Hey.
765
00:26:13,573 --> 00:26:14,738
[dramatic music]
766
00:26:14,807 --> 00:26:15,739
How you doing?
767
00:26:17,143 --> 00:26:18,842
[line trilling]
768
00:26:18,911 --> 00:26:20,678
- [whispers]
Who should I ask for?
769
00:26:20,746 --> 00:26:21,712
[tense music]
770
00:26:21,781 --> 00:26:23,047
- [whispers]
Dee?
771
00:26:24,850 --> 00:26:25,616
- Hey.
772
00:26:25,685 --> 00:26:26,617
♪ ♪
773
00:26:26,686 --> 00:26:28,152
How you doing?
774
00:26:30,089 --> 00:26:31,622
- I am, uh, I'm good.
775
00:26:31,691 --> 00:26:34,592
Um, my name is Nev.
- [laughs]
776
00:26:34,660 --> 00:26:36,293
- And I'm on the show,
"Catfish."
777
00:26:36,362 --> 00:26:37,361
Do you know about that show?
778
00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:38,796
[line disconnects]
779
00:26:38,864 --> 00:26:40,598
Oh.
- [Dee laughs]
780
00:26:40,666 --> 00:26:42,166
- That might've been it.
- Mother[bleep].
781
00:26:42,234 --> 00:26:43,867
- [cackling]
- No way.
782
00:26:43,936 --> 00:26:45,536
- Mm-hmm.
- She hung up.
783
00:26:45,605 --> 00:26:47,605
- Maybe it's not Eric Johnson.
784
00:26:47,673 --> 00:26:50,474
But it can't also be
KeeZY or Jaylenz,
785
00:26:50,543 --> 00:26:51,976
so who the [bleep] was that?
786
00:26:52,044 --> 00:26:53,944
- It sounded like
a younger woman.
787
00:26:54,013 --> 00:26:55,446
- Yeah.
That did sound like it.
788
00:26:55,514 --> 00:26:57,047
- She didn't even
disguise her voice.
789
00:26:58,150 --> 00:27:01,352
- I'm gonna send her
a text message right now
790
00:27:01,420 --> 00:27:04,455
with a picture of all of us.
791
00:27:04,523 --> 00:27:06,023
[camera shutter snaps]
792
00:27:06,092 --> 00:27:07,291
All right.
793
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:08,425
- [laughing]
- Ah, yeah.
794
00:27:08,494 --> 00:27:09,627
- Dee's face.
795
00:27:09,695 --> 00:27:11,328
- Like, yeah.
Stop playing with me.
796
00:27:11,397 --> 00:27:12,863
- This is good.
- Come on.
797
00:27:12,932 --> 00:27:13,964
- "Hey, we're making
an episode of "Catfish" now
798
00:27:14,033 --> 00:27:15,466
"and would love
to speak with you.
799
00:27:15,534 --> 00:27:16,967
"Obviously we know you're not
the real Dee Pimpin,
800
00:27:17,036 --> 00:27:18,602
"but Imari still wants
to know who you are,
801
00:27:18,671 --> 00:27:19,803
"and Dee is very curious
about why
802
00:27:19,872 --> 00:27:21,405
"you've been impersonating
her for so long.
803
00:27:21,474 --> 00:27:24,408
"We're all ears and excited
to hear back from you.
804
00:27:24,477 --> 00:27:25,576
Thanks."
805
00:27:25,645 --> 00:27:28,012
- Yeah.
Let it be known.
806
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,981
- Well, Dee, at least we know
it's definitely not you.
807
00:27:31,050 --> 00:27:32,416
- Yay yay.
808
00:27:32,485 --> 00:27:35,185
- Obviously,
whoever this girl is,
809
00:27:35,254 --> 00:27:36,520
she has my number.
810
00:27:36,589 --> 00:27:38,055
We sent her that message.
811
00:27:38,124 --> 00:27:40,724
So let's all just sit tight
and regroup in the morning.
812
00:27:40,793 --> 00:27:41,825
- All right, gang.
813
00:27:41,894 --> 00:27:43,227
- See ya.
- See y'all in a minute.
814
00:27:43,295 --> 00:27:45,729
[dramatic music]
815
00:27:46,198 --> 00:27:47,364
[exciting hip-hop music]
816
00:27:47,433 --> 00:27:48,499
- Okay.
817
00:27:48,567 --> 00:27:51,535
Check my ph--Oh!-ne.
818
00:27:51,604 --> 00:27:53,037
I just got a text here
819
00:27:53,105 --> 00:27:55,139
from our catfish.
820
00:27:55,207 --> 00:27:58,308
So let me--let me get Kamie
on the old chat,
821
00:27:58,377 --> 00:27:59,777
see what she's doing.
822
00:27:59,845 --> 00:28:01,578
Got a bite.
823
00:28:01,647 --> 00:28:07,618
♪ ♪
824
00:28:07,687 --> 00:28:08,952
- I thought you were never
gonna get here.
825
00:28:09,021 --> 00:28:10,087
- Heyo.
Hold on; I have an update.
826
00:28:11,290 --> 00:28:14,658
In response to the text we sent
to the fake Dee..
827
00:28:14,727 --> 00:28:16,927
Her response was,
828
00:28:16,996 --> 00:28:19,363
"Dee is in that screenshot.
829
00:28:19,432 --> 00:28:21,398
"Is she pissed?
830
00:28:21,467 --> 00:28:22,900
What is she gonna do?"
831
00:28:22,968 --> 00:28:24,301
- Why don't you Zoom in
832
00:28:24,370 --> 00:28:26,437
and see for yourself, ma'am?
833
00:28:26,505 --> 00:28:28,839
- I think it's understandable
that they're concerned
834
00:28:28,908 --> 00:28:31,442
that, like, Dee might be upset.
835
00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:32,743
- Well, what do you expect?
836
00:28:32,812 --> 00:28:34,111
- No, of course.
- Like, what are afraid for?
837
00:28:34,180 --> 00:28:36,346
- Of course.
- A virtual rumble?
838
00:28:36,415 --> 00:28:39,149
- Well, what if this person
is someone that Dee knows?
839
00:28:39,218 --> 00:28:41,752
- It could be one of the girls
from back in the day
840
00:28:41,821 --> 00:28:43,554
when Dee was up to no good.
841
00:28:43,622 --> 00:28:45,189
- All right.
So I'm gonna reply.
842
00:28:45,257 --> 00:28:46,590
I'm gonna say, "Hey.
843
00:28:46,659 --> 00:28:48,692
"Thanks for getting back
to me.
844
00:28:48,761 --> 00:28:50,327
"Yes, haha.
845
00:28:50,396 --> 00:28:53,697
"Dee is in the screenshot.
846
00:28:53,766 --> 00:28:56,567
But don't worry."
847
00:28:56,635 --> 00:28:58,969
- She's not as mad
as she looks.
848
00:28:59,038 --> 00:29:03,841
- "Of course,
Imari is also a bit hurt
849
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:05,943
"that you lied to her.
850
00:29:06,011 --> 00:29:09,513
"We would all love to hear
851
00:29:09,582 --> 00:29:11,982
your side of the story."
852
00:29:12,051 --> 00:29:13,250
All right.
853
00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:15,018
Sent.
854
00:29:15,087 --> 00:29:18,355
- I think we should check
on Imari especially
855
00:29:18,424 --> 00:29:21,625
because she did seem kind
of bummed out yesterday.
856
00:29:21,694 --> 00:29:23,494
She said they were talking
every single day.
857
00:29:23,562 --> 00:29:24,895
Like, that's--
- Right.
858
00:29:24,964 --> 00:29:26,163
- That's a friendship.
859
00:29:26,232 --> 00:29:28,065
That's a long time
to be talking to someone.
860
00:29:28,134 --> 00:29:30,801
- "Come join us in the Zoom."
861
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:32,369
♪ ♪
862
00:29:32,438 --> 00:29:34,204
[doorbell chimes]
863
00:29:34,273 --> 00:29:36,039
- Hello.
- Hey.
864
00:29:36,108 --> 00:29:37,975
What does your tattoo say?
865
00:29:38,043 --> 00:29:39,576
- Whatever you believe,
you become.
866
00:29:39,645 --> 00:29:40,911
- Amen.
867
00:29:40,980 --> 00:29:43,013
- What do you believe, Imari?
868
00:29:43,082 --> 00:29:44,615
- I mean,
I felt better yesterday
869
00:29:44,683 --> 00:29:46,350
about the entire situation
870
00:29:46,418 --> 00:29:48,585
just because I did actually
get to meet Dee,
871
00:29:48,654 --> 00:29:49,753
and she was very sweet.
872
00:29:49,822 --> 00:29:51,355
But when I woke up
this morning,
873
00:29:51,423 --> 00:29:53,390
I just--I feel like
874
00:29:53,459 --> 00:29:55,092
I really just wanna know
who this person is
875
00:29:55,161 --> 00:29:56,894
because I really trusted them,
876
00:29:56,962 --> 00:29:59,163
and I don't trust a lot
of people with my music.
877
00:29:59,231 --> 00:30:00,597
They were really
encouraging me,
878
00:30:00,666 --> 00:30:02,966
which is something
I don't get a lot
879
00:30:03,035 --> 00:30:04,968
from the people around me,
especially where I live.
880
00:30:05,037 --> 00:30:08,205
Like, who knows what
this person's motives are?
881
00:30:08,274 --> 00:30:10,607
- Like, why ask you
to send things?
882
00:30:10,676 --> 00:30:13,143
Is it just to try to, you know,
883
00:30:13,212 --> 00:30:15,579
make their story
seem more believable,
884
00:30:15,648 --> 00:30:18,916
or are they doing
something shady with it?
885
00:30:18,984 --> 00:30:20,984
- So many questions.
So many unanswered questions.
886
00:30:21,053 --> 00:30:22,519
- We do have one thing
to report.
887
00:30:22,588 --> 00:30:25,322
Should we get Dee on
and tell both of you, I guess?
888
00:30:25,391 --> 00:30:27,691
- Double trouble.
Two birds, one stone.
889
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:28,892
[suspenseful music]
890
00:30:28,961 --> 00:30:32,696
- "Got a little update."
891
00:30:32,765 --> 00:30:34,798
[doorbell chimes]
892
00:30:34,867 --> 00:30:35,833
- Hey, Dee.
- What's up?
893
00:30:35,901 --> 00:30:38,068
- Hey.
- What up, gang?
894
00:30:38,137 --> 00:30:39,903
How y'all doing today?
- [laughs]
895
00:30:39,972 --> 00:30:41,905
- We got some good news today,
don't we?
896
00:30:41,974 --> 00:30:44,708
- Well, we got a little news.
897
00:30:44,777 --> 00:30:45,809
- Oh, man.
Okay.
898
00:30:45,878 --> 00:30:47,678
- Now that I have you
both here,
899
00:30:47,746 --> 00:30:49,880
in response to the photo
that we sent
900
00:30:49,949 --> 00:30:51,682
with all of you guys
on the screen
901
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:53,383
and that long message I wrote,
902
00:30:53,452 --> 00:30:54,818
she wrote back,
903
00:30:54,887 --> 00:30:57,387
"Dee is in that screenshot...
904
00:30:57,456 --> 00:30:58,622
"is she pissed?
905
00:30:58,691 --> 00:31:00,424
What is she gonna do?"
906
00:31:01,660 --> 00:31:03,393
- This was, yeah, just, like,
-20 minutes ago,?
907
00:31:03,462 --> 00:31:04,761
- What do they mean,
"Dee looks pissed.
908
00:31:04,830 --> 00:31:06,296
What is she gonna do?"
What do you think?
909
00:31:06,365 --> 00:31:08,298
She's gonna headbutt you
through the Zoom.
910
00:31:08,367 --> 00:31:09,967
- I don't know.
For real, I would.
911
00:31:10,035 --> 00:31:11,768
- [laughing]
- Don't play with me.
912
00:31:11,837 --> 00:31:12,870
[laughter]
913
00:31:12,938 --> 00:31:14,638
- They care how you feel,
you know?
914
00:31:14,707 --> 00:31:15,739
- Yeah.
- Mm-hmm.
915
00:31:15,808 --> 00:31:17,908
- They care about
what you think,
916
00:31:17,977 --> 00:31:21,111
so maybe it's not
a complete stranger.
917
00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:23,013
You know what I mean?
- Mm.
918
00:31:23,082 --> 00:31:25,616
You have a point there.
919
00:31:25,684 --> 00:31:26,817
If it's somebody around me
920
00:31:26,886 --> 00:31:27,985
that's actually trying
to do this,
921
00:31:28,053 --> 00:31:30,287
then--yeah, I don't know
how I would feel.
922
00:31:30,356 --> 00:31:32,656
- I would be mad as hell.
[laughs]
923
00:31:32,725 --> 00:31:34,224
- I mean, I wanna be mad.
924
00:31:34,293 --> 00:31:36,159
It's like I need to know
who it is first.
925
00:31:36,228 --> 00:31:38,161
I need to see them,
read they energy
926
00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:40,597
to figure out if I can even be
mad at them or not, you know?
927
00:31:40,666 --> 00:31:44,334
- They wrote, "If this is
my chance to see Imari,
928
00:31:44,403 --> 00:31:46,737
then I'm not going
to blow it."
929
00:31:46,805 --> 00:31:47,938
- Interesting.
Interesting.
930
00:31:48,007 --> 00:31:50,073
- What about Dee?
931
00:31:50,142 --> 00:31:52,442
What about if this is
my chance to apologize?
932
00:31:53,512 --> 00:31:55,078
- Let's stick
with the Imari angle.
933
00:31:55,147 --> 00:31:56,079
That seems to be
what she cares about.
934
00:31:56,148 --> 00:31:57,481
- [laughs]
Is she pissed?
935
00:31:57,549 --> 00:31:58,916
- "Yeah."
- I'm gonna make it happen.
936
00:31:58,984 --> 00:32:02,619
- "This is definitely your best
937
00:32:02,688 --> 00:32:05,322
and last chance."
938
00:32:05,391 --> 00:32:06,924
- "Obviously you care
about her a lot,
939
00:32:06,992 --> 00:32:08,392
and I know she feels that you
two have become really close."
940
00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:10,160
Yeah.
I think that's perfect.
941
00:32:10,229 --> 00:32:12,029
- Mm-hmm.
- All right.
942
00:32:12,097 --> 00:32:14,831
- That's good for me.
943
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:16,066
- And Imari,
you said there was
944
00:32:16,135 --> 00:32:17,801
never anything romantic
between you?
945
00:32:17,870 --> 00:32:19,069
- No.
946
00:32:19,138 --> 00:32:20,570
- Oh.
- Fast.
947
00:32:20,639 --> 00:32:22,472
- So hold on.
948
00:32:22,541 --> 00:32:25,342
So she just wrote back
and said, "How do we do this?"
949
00:32:25,411 --> 00:32:27,878
So I'm gonna just send her
the Zoom link.
950
00:32:27,947 --> 00:32:29,012
- Okay.
So it's a girl?
951
00:32:29,081 --> 00:32:30,047
- I don't know.
952
00:32:30,115 --> 00:32:32,482
[dramatic music]
953
00:32:32,551 --> 00:32:34,885
Okay.
- Now we wait.
954
00:32:34,954 --> 00:32:37,054
- I'm ready.
955
00:32:37,122 --> 00:32:39,489
Please don't let it be somebody
that's close to me.
956
00:32:39,558 --> 00:32:41,325
- You know what
I just thought about?
957
00:32:41,393 --> 00:32:44,895
We did talk to Tony before
we reached out to this person.
958
00:32:44,964 --> 00:32:48,065
What if Tony put his daughter
or girlfriend
959
00:32:48,133 --> 00:32:49,499
or somebody on the phone
960
00:32:49,568 --> 00:32:51,335
because he knew what number
we were calling from?
961
00:32:53,505 --> 00:32:54,604
♪ ♪
962
00:32:54,673 --> 00:32:55,939
[doorbell chimes]
963
00:32:57,843 --> 00:32:59,142
- So I'm gonna just send her
the Zoom link.
964
00:32:59,211 --> 00:33:02,179
[tense music]
965
00:33:02,247 --> 00:33:03,480
♪ ♪
966
00:33:03,549 --> 00:33:04,715
Okay.
967
00:33:04,783 --> 00:33:07,417
- Please don't let it be
somebody that's close to me.
968
00:33:08,287 --> 00:33:09,419
[doorbell chimes]
969
00:33:09,488 --> 00:33:12,589
[suspenseful music]
970
00:33:12,658 --> 00:33:14,057
♪ ♪
971
00:33:14,126 --> 00:33:15,258
- What's going on?
972
00:33:15,327 --> 00:33:16,360
- Hey.
What's up?
973
00:33:16,428 --> 00:33:17,561
- Hi.
- [laughs]
974
00:33:17,629 --> 00:33:19,029
- Your name just comes up as K.
975
00:33:19,098 --> 00:33:20,297
What should we call you?
976
00:33:20,366 --> 00:33:21,965
- KeeZY.
My name is KeeZY.
977
00:33:22,034 --> 00:33:23,734
- KeeZY!
- Yeah.
978
00:33:23,802 --> 00:33:25,936
- KeeZY.
The fake.
979
00:33:26,005 --> 00:33:27,804
- So you're the one.
980
00:33:27,873 --> 00:33:30,007
- You're one
of the artists that--
981
00:33:30,075 --> 00:33:31,575
the page posted that song.
982
00:33:31,643 --> 00:33:32,709
- Yeah.
983
00:33:32,778 --> 00:33:34,344
- If you wanna kind of just
tell us your sort
984
00:33:34,413 --> 00:33:35,612
of side of the story here
985
00:33:35,681 --> 00:33:38,415
and how we all got into this--
this mess.
986
00:33:38,484 --> 00:33:41,618
- Well, way back
seven years ago,
987
00:33:41,687 --> 00:33:44,921
the moment Dee walked out
on her episode
988
00:33:44,990 --> 00:33:46,690
and said she was a rapper,
989
00:33:46,759 --> 00:33:48,959
I noticed that
she didn't have any pages.
990
00:33:49,028 --> 00:33:51,361
And I saw an opportunity.
991
00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:53,930
So I made 'em all
right then and there
992
00:33:53,999 --> 00:33:56,566
and kind of took it to 100.
993
00:33:56,635 --> 00:33:58,835
- That crazy.
Wow.
994
00:33:58,904 --> 00:34:01,405
- Like, a lot of people
were messaging
995
00:34:01,473 --> 00:34:05,142
because they like Dee, like,
attracted to her.
996
00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:07,010
I was like, "Hey, thanks.
Blah, blah.
997
00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:08,211
Check my brother out."
998
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,780
And sent links to my stuff.
999
00:34:09,848 --> 00:34:11,081
- Damn!
Damn.
1000
00:34:11,150 --> 00:34:13,450
- First, like, we weren't
really taking it that serious.
1001
00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:15,452
I was just using it
to post stuff.
1002
00:34:15,521 --> 00:34:17,521
And then we started
making songs,
1003
00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:19,456
and I'm a vocal engineer.
1004
00:34:19,525 --> 00:34:21,258
So I would record my part,
1005
00:34:21,326 --> 00:34:22,759
and Jaylenz would record his,
1006
00:34:22,828 --> 00:34:25,695
and I'd record another part,
and make it sound like a girl.
1007
00:34:25,764 --> 00:34:28,298
- So it was you
doing Dee's voice?
1008
00:34:28,367 --> 00:34:29,933
- Yeah.
- [bleep].
1009
00:34:30,002 --> 00:34:32,436
- I mean, we were doing
some outrageous stuff.
1010
00:34:32,504 --> 00:34:34,371
We were creating flyers
1011
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,705
and traveling
around the country
1012
00:34:35,774 --> 00:34:37,908
saying that KeeZY, Dee Pimpin,
and Jaylenz
1013
00:34:37,976 --> 00:34:40,544
are gonna be in Myrtle Beach
at this club
1014
00:34:40,612 --> 00:34:43,380
accompanied
by an MTV film crew.
1015
00:34:43,449 --> 00:34:44,648
- I seen that.
- And yeah.
1016
00:34:44,716 --> 00:34:46,283
And it would be
the videographer.
1017
00:34:46,351 --> 00:34:47,918
And he'd walk around
with, like,
1018
00:34:47,986 --> 00:34:49,386
an MTV film crew shirt
1019
00:34:49,455 --> 00:34:51,188
and an MTV film crew badge
1020
00:34:51,256 --> 00:34:52,722
that say "Film Crew"
on the back.
1021
00:34:52,791 --> 00:34:54,991
He had all the equipment.
He'd follow us around.
1022
00:34:55,060 --> 00:34:57,761
So there was, like,
crowds of people following us.
1023
00:35:01,166 --> 00:35:02,566
- Oh, hell nah.
1024
00:35:02,634 --> 00:35:04,935
- You actually met people?
1025
00:35:06,972 --> 00:35:08,338
♪ ♪
1026
00:35:08,407 --> 00:35:10,273
- So you have your own
following now, I mean?
1027
00:35:10,342 --> 00:35:11,708
- It kinda gave me a spark,
1028
00:35:11,777 --> 00:35:14,077
the boost I needed
knowledge-wise
1029
00:35:14,146 --> 00:35:15,812
and fanbase-wise.
1030
00:35:15,881 --> 00:35:16,847
- Damn.
1031
00:35:17,916 --> 00:35:20,016
to actually connect
- Awith the real Dee?ink
1032
00:35:20,085 --> 00:35:21,451
- I'm just gonna be honest.
1033
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,787
I didn't see a need
to reach out to the real you.
1034
00:35:25,090 --> 00:35:27,491
- Because what was the point
if I ran social media?
1035
00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:29,025
- It's my name, bro.
1036
00:35:29,094 --> 00:35:31,495
It's not even about the page.
It's my name.
1037
00:35:31,563 --> 00:35:33,230
I want my name--
I can't even use my name
1038
00:35:33,298 --> 00:35:35,198
to create another page
on Facebook.
1039
00:35:35,267 --> 00:35:36,199
Facebook thought
it was actually me
1040
00:35:36,268 --> 00:35:37,534
because of the following.
1041
00:35:37,603 --> 00:35:39,002
I been missing out on
a lot of opportunities
1042
00:35:39,071 --> 00:35:40,837
just because people don't
really know how to find me.
1043
00:35:40,906 --> 00:35:43,340
Instead, they clicking
on the page that you created.
1044
00:35:43,408 --> 00:35:45,008
- At the end of the day,
1045
00:35:45,077 --> 00:35:47,677
there's no way I could've
missed that opportunity.
1046
00:35:47,746 --> 00:35:50,614
Dee was just
a piece of it, like,
1047
00:35:50,682 --> 00:35:52,983
I look at the internet
as a playground.
1048
00:35:53,051 --> 00:35:54,851
Just taking opportunities
1049
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,853
and using 'em
to your advantage.
1050
00:35:56,922 --> 00:35:58,021
- Sure.
1051
00:35:58,090 --> 00:35:59,856
But you--in your conversations
with Imari,
1052
00:35:59,925 --> 00:36:01,625
had encouraged her
to come to Atlanta
1053
00:36:01,693 --> 00:36:04,394
and to meet youpotentially wor.
1054
00:36:04,463 --> 00:36:06,263
- I really did plan
on meeting with her.
1055
00:36:06,331 --> 00:36:08,598
- How were you gonna
explain yourself
1056
00:36:08,667 --> 00:36:10,066
if she did come to Atlanta?
1057
00:36:10,135 --> 00:36:11,601
- I was just going
with the flow.
1058
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:14,638
I really did plan
on revealing it in person.
1059
00:36:15,741 --> 00:36:17,674
- I mean, you are
a grown-ass man.
1060
00:36:17,743 --> 00:36:19,176
- Right.
- And, like,
1061
00:36:19,244 --> 00:36:21,311
that would have
potentially put her
1062
00:36:21,380 --> 00:36:24,848
in a very, very
uncomfortable situation.
1063
00:36:24,917 --> 00:36:26,816
- Yeah--
- So how many
1064
00:36:26,885 --> 00:36:28,752
other Imaris are there?
1065
00:36:28,820 --> 00:36:31,221
- There aren't
any other Imaris.
1066
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:34,558
She's genuine,
1067
00:36:34,626 --> 00:36:36,359
enthusiastic,
1068
00:36:36,428 --> 00:36:38,762
and she makes good music
on top of that.
1069
00:36:38,830 --> 00:36:42,065
There's nobody else I'm having
those conversations with.
1070
00:36:42,134 --> 00:36:45,602
- So what you wanted to gain
1071
00:36:45,671 --> 00:36:48,705
from me was just a collab?
1072
00:36:48,774 --> 00:36:50,907
- A collab and, like,
the whole package--
1073
00:36:50,976 --> 00:36:52,209
the video, everything.
1074
00:36:52,277 --> 00:36:54,177
Like, it wasn't just
gonna be a collab.
1075
00:36:54,246 --> 00:36:56,046
- To me,
it just doesn't feel like
1076
00:36:56,114 --> 00:36:58,949
it's just about wanting
to work together.
1077
00:36:59,017 --> 00:37:00,584
I'm assuming you liked
what you saw,
1078
00:37:00,652 --> 00:37:02,719
so that's why
you responded to her?
1079
00:37:02,788 --> 00:37:04,387
- I'm glad you said it.
1080
00:37:04,456 --> 00:37:05,455
- [scoffs]
1081
00:37:05,524 --> 00:37:07,524
- Do you have something
you want to say?
1082
00:37:07,593 --> 00:37:09,859
- [laughing]
1083
00:37:09,928 --> 00:37:12,329
- Aw, man.
I'm sorry.
1084
00:37:12,397 --> 00:37:14,297
I'm definitely sorry
to both of y'all.
1085
00:37:14,366 --> 00:37:15,532
- Are you really?
- Yeah.
1086
00:37:15,601 --> 00:37:17,534
Because I really do
wanna work with you.
1087
00:37:17,603 --> 00:37:20,036
And I wouldn't even have
carried on if I didn't.
1088
00:37:20,906 --> 00:37:22,839
The friendship is valuable too.
1089
00:37:22,908 --> 00:37:24,007
You know what I mean?
1090
00:37:24,076 --> 00:37:26,142
I'm not pushing for it,
of course,
1091
00:37:26,211 --> 00:37:29,546
because, like, how she
probably perceives me now.
1092
00:37:29,615 --> 00:37:30,914
But like I said,
1093
00:37:30,983 --> 00:37:34,084
what was on my mind was
making a song, collaborate.
1094
00:37:34,152 --> 00:37:36,253
- So it was all
about the clout?
1095
00:37:36,321 --> 00:37:37,887
- Even to this day.
To this day?
1096
00:37:37,956 --> 00:37:39,155
- It's all
about the opportunity.
1097
00:37:39,224 --> 00:37:41,291
- The Dee Pimpin page has
always been about clout.
1098
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,560
It was never
about manipulating anybody
1099
00:37:43,629 --> 00:37:44,861
or relationships.
1100
00:37:44,930 --> 00:37:46,963
- Is being here right now
about doing the right thing
1101
00:37:47,032 --> 00:37:48,398
or is it about the clout still?
1102
00:37:48,467 --> 00:37:51,268
- It's about doing
the right thing.
1103
00:37:51,336 --> 00:37:54,070
I understand it was wrong,
but I mean,
1104
00:37:54,139 --> 00:37:56,439
like I said,
I had to do what I had to do.
1105
00:37:56,508 --> 00:37:59,376
And if I went back--
back in time,
1106
00:37:59,444 --> 00:38:01,044
I would probably still do it.
1107
00:38:01,113 --> 00:38:02,646
- Who answered the phone?
1108
00:38:02,714 --> 00:38:05,015
Was that your girl voice?
Who was that?
1109
00:38:05,083 --> 00:38:07,450
- [laughs]
No, that was my stylist.
1110
00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:10,453
And this is my business line,
so I was with her.
1111
00:38:10,522 --> 00:38:11,454
- Mm.
1112
00:38:11,523 --> 00:38:14,090
- So...
- I feel used.
1113
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:16,026
I think that it's time
1114
00:38:16,094 --> 00:38:18,528
for another transfer of clout.
1115
00:38:18,597 --> 00:38:20,997
I think we can just do
a clout triangle.
1116
00:38:21,066 --> 00:38:22,165
How about that?
[both laugh]
1117
00:38:22,234 --> 00:38:23,667
Give me some of yours.
- Here we go.
1118
00:38:23,735 --> 00:38:24,934
Yes.
1119
00:38:25,003 --> 00:38:26,503
- Give me some of yours.
- I love this.
1120
00:38:26,571 --> 00:38:27,404
- That's true.
1121
00:38:27,472 --> 00:38:28,405
KeeZY, I mean, you've obviously
1122
00:38:28,473 --> 00:38:30,373
got a lot of followers now.
1123
00:38:30,442 --> 00:38:32,709
I mean, you could direct people
to Dee's real music,
1124
00:38:32,778 --> 00:38:34,711
and you could direct people
to Imari's music.
1125
00:38:34,780 --> 00:38:36,713
- I think it's the least
you can do at this point.
1126
00:38:36,782 --> 00:38:38,648
- [laughs]
Whatever you want me to do.
1127
00:38:38,717 --> 00:38:40,583
- I knew that fire was
in there, bitch.
1128
00:38:40,652 --> 00:38:42,919
I knew it was there.
- Yes, of course.
1129
00:38:42,988 --> 00:38:45,689
- I'm not gonna be the only one
left high and dry now.
1130
00:38:45,757 --> 00:38:47,223
Wait a minute.
- Great.
1131
00:38:47,292 --> 00:38:48,291
- That's not how this
is gonna go at all.
1132
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,127
- [laughs]
- Exactly.
1133
00:38:51,196 --> 00:38:53,096
- Did you say that
you also engineer?
1134
00:38:53,165 --> 00:38:54,297
- Man, I don't--
- And he do video too.
1135
00:38:54,366 --> 00:38:55,632
I didn't forget.
He said video.
1136
00:38:55,701 --> 00:38:57,167
- He's a videographer.
- I like videos.
1137
00:38:57,235 --> 00:38:58,735
- I'm open or whatever.
1138
00:38:58,804 --> 00:39:00,036
- Reparations.
1139
00:39:00,105 --> 00:39:02,038
- I think that's a good idea.
- Yep.
1140
00:39:02,107 --> 00:39:04,374
- Now look--there are a lot
of people who will say, like,
1141
00:39:04,443 --> 00:39:06,109
you know, do whatever
you gotta do
1142
00:39:06,178 --> 00:39:08,011
to be successful
and promote yourself
1143
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,479
and all that.
1144
00:39:09,548 --> 00:39:11,514
But at the same time,
we have to consider that...
1145
00:39:11,583 --> 00:39:13,650
- There's a right way
to go about things.
1146
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,118
And other people were involved.
- Right.
1147
00:39:15,187 --> 00:39:17,053
- I was collateral.
Dee was collateral.
1148
00:39:17,122 --> 00:39:19,689
That's not fair.
- Right.
1149
00:39:19,758 --> 00:39:20,824
- I know it's wrong.
1150
00:39:20,892 --> 00:39:21,991
- All right, well look.
1151
00:39:22,060 --> 00:39:23,326
I feel like it's as close
to a happy ending
1152
00:39:23,395 --> 00:39:24,494
as we're gonna get.
1153
00:39:24,563 --> 00:39:26,096
For me, it seems pretty obvious
1154
00:39:26,164 --> 00:39:29,065
that the page
should belong to Dee.
1155
00:39:29,134 --> 00:39:32,302
She should have the option
to do with it what she wishes.
1156
00:39:32,371 --> 00:39:34,971
- You could use it, like,
it could benefit you.
1157
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,107
- Nah, I want it.
I definitely--I want it.
1158
00:39:37,175 --> 00:39:38,808
- I always think you should
take any music
1159
00:39:38,877 --> 00:39:41,945
that you've produced where
you've claimed Dee was on it
1160
00:39:42,013 --> 00:39:44,114
off of the internet.
- Yeah.
1161
00:39:44,182 --> 00:39:46,316
- Imari knows who
she's been talking to.
1162
00:39:46,385 --> 00:39:49,819
And hopefully, you do really
sort of honor your promise
1163
00:39:49,888 --> 00:39:51,187
to help her with some music
1164
00:39:51,256 --> 00:39:53,390
and give her a jumpstart and--
1165
00:39:53,458 --> 00:39:54,457
- That was my goal
from the jump.
1166
00:39:54,526 --> 00:39:55,325
- Right.
1167
00:39:55,394 --> 00:39:56,459
And obviously, Dee,
1168
00:39:56,528 --> 00:39:58,128
you got your page finally.
1169
00:39:58,196 --> 00:39:59,829
And you can now
1170
00:39:59,898 --> 00:40:02,098
send people from that page
to your Instagram,
1171
00:40:02,167 --> 00:40:04,033
or you could really get
into that page
1172
00:40:04,102 --> 00:40:05,402
and maybe even ask KeeZY
1173
00:40:05,470 --> 00:40:07,771
to help to promote yourself,
you know?
1174
00:40:07,839 --> 00:40:10,039
- Like I said, I'm down for
whatever everybody wants to do.
1175
00:40:10,108 --> 00:40:11,374
- All right.
1176
00:40:11,443 --> 00:40:14,010
- Well, KeeZY,
I hope you don't get any more,
1177
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:15,512
you know, bright ideas
1178
00:40:15,580 --> 00:40:17,514
to seize
any more opportunities.
1179
00:40:17,582 --> 00:40:20,850
- It's no need to do that type
of stuff anymore but...
1180
00:40:20,919 --> 00:40:22,485
- Dee felt dee-srespected.
1181
00:40:22,554 --> 00:40:25,255
- Yeah, I'm like, that's me.
1182
00:40:25,323 --> 00:40:27,023
- Thanks, guys.
- Thank you.
1183
00:40:27,092 --> 00:40:28,324
- All right.
- Thank you.
1184
00:40:28,393 --> 00:40:29,426
- Thanks, everybody.
- Good luck to everybody.
1185
00:40:29,494 --> 00:40:30,560
- All right, Kamie.
See y'all later.
1186
00:40:30,629 --> 00:40:31,528
- Good luck.
- All right, thank you.
1187
00:40:31,596 --> 00:40:33,396
- Good luck.
- All right.
1188
00:40:33,465 --> 00:40:34,464
- ♪ That's a ride ♪
1189
00:40:34,533 --> 00:40:36,399
♪ Keep your--tip-top shape ♪
1190
00:40:36,468 --> 00:40:37,434
♪ I'm great ♪
1191
00:40:37,502 --> 00:40:38,968
♪ Need Betty not Becky ♪
1192
00:40:39,037 --> 00:40:40,437
♪ I want that real cake ♪
1193
00:40:40,505 --> 00:40:42,172
♪ Make moves like
I'm on skates ♪
1194
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:43,606
♪ Finessing all of my plays ♪
1195
00:40:43,675 --> 00:40:45,041
♪ On the block
for a few days ♪
1196
00:40:45,110 --> 00:40:46,443
♪ And I'm still doper than all
1197
00:40:46,511 --> 00:40:48,478
the HDZ boys that disgraced ♪
1198
00:40:48,547 --> 00:40:50,547
♪ Menace, though ♪
1199
00:40:50,615 --> 00:40:51,948
♪ Menace, though ♪
1200
00:40:52,017 --> 00:40:53,316
♪ ♪
1201
00:40:56,488 --> 00:40:57,720
- Brian has been talking
to Stephanie for a year.
1202
00:40:57,789 --> 00:40:59,923
- If somebody can stimulate
my brain and my heart
1203
00:40:59,991 --> 00:41:01,057
just through a phone call,
1204
00:41:01,126 --> 00:41:02,358
imagine what it could be
in person.
1205
00:41:02,427 --> 00:41:03,560
- He said she was staying
at the hotel.
1206
00:41:03,628 --> 00:41:04,928
- [gasps]
- Let's give him a call.
1207
00:41:04,996 --> 00:41:06,863
- When you can't go up
to doors and knock on 'em,
1208
00:41:06,932 --> 00:41:09,165
you sure find other ways
to be invasive.
1209
00:41:12,804 --> 00:41:14,304
[doorbell rings]
- Oh, [bleep].