1 00:00:01,268 --> 00:00:02,401 - I got an email here from Imari. 2 00:00:02,470 --> 00:00:05,471 "My career is on the line." 3 00:00:05,539 --> 00:00:06,605 - It's a rapper. 4 00:00:06,674 --> 00:00:08,974 - This person has been on your show before. 5 00:00:09,043 --> 00:00:12,277 - So you're talking to someone who was on "Catfish" 6 00:00:12,346 --> 00:00:13,812 as the catfish. 7 00:00:13,881 --> 00:00:14,980 - Yes. - What? 8 00:00:15,049 --> 00:00:16,949 - Wow. This goes way back. 9 00:00:17,018 --> 00:00:18,484 The last seven years. 10 00:00:18,552 --> 00:00:19,952 - People are coming for you. 11 00:00:20,021 --> 00:00:22,287 And they have been for years. 12 00:00:22,356 --> 00:00:24,223 - It's time to get to the bottom of who's doing this. 13 00:00:24,291 --> 00:00:27,126 - It could literally be anyone. 14 00:00:27,194 --> 00:00:28,293 - I'm not ready for this. 15 00:00:28,362 --> 00:00:29,862 [line trilling] 16 00:00:30,231 --> 00:00:31,296 - Hey. 17 00:00:31,365 --> 00:00:32,765 - So you're the one. 18 00:00:32,833 --> 00:00:35,467 [dramatic musical sting] 19 00:00:35,536 --> 00:00:36,902 - ♪ Girl, if you don't wanna ♪ 20 00:00:36,971 --> 00:00:38,971 ♪ You better let him know ♪ 21 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:39,972 ♪ Let him know ♪ 22 00:00:40,041 --> 00:00:41,673 - Aye-yo. 23 00:00:41,742 --> 00:00:43,342 ♪ ♪ 24 00:00:43,411 --> 00:00:45,110 [laughs] [doorbell chimes] 25 00:00:45,179 --> 00:00:46,879 [laughs] 26 00:00:46,947 --> 00:00:48,080 What's up, Kamala? 27 00:00:48,149 --> 00:00:49,415 - It's Kamie-la. 28 00:00:49,483 --> 00:00:51,250 - Kamie-la. - Thank you very much. 29 00:00:51,318 --> 00:00:52,618 - [laughs] I think it's safe to say 30 00:00:52,686 --> 00:00:54,686 that Joe and Kamala watch "Catfish." 31 00:00:55,856 --> 00:00:58,824 - It feels like a lot of the stuff they ran on 32 00:00:58,893 --> 00:01:00,592 is based on what we do. 33 00:01:00,661 --> 00:01:02,428 - [laughs] - Seek a truth 34 00:01:02,496 --> 00:01:03,996 and hold people accountable. 35 00:01:04,065 --> 00:01:05,631 And encourage unity. - Unity. 36 00:01:05,699 --> 00:01:09,201 - So we are an extension of the executive branch. 37 00:01:09,270 --> 00:01:10,736 - We're there. I mean, we should be 38 00:01:10,805 --> 00:01:12,404 filming this from the White House right now, 39 00:01:12,473 --> 00:01:15,174 but COVID restrictions. [laughs] 40 00:01:15,242 --> 00:01:17,009 - Let's open the old email here. 41 00:01:17,078 --> 00:01:18,110 Here we go. 42 00:01:18,179 --> 00:01:19,945 I got an email here from Imari. 43 00:01:20,014 --> 00:01:22,981 "My career is on the line. 44 00:01:23,050 --> 00:01:24,850 - Oh, God. It's a rapper. 45 00:01:24,919 --> 00:01:26,251 - Oh, boy. - Or a porn star. 46 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:27,820 - "Dear Nev and Kamie, 47 00:01:27,888 --> 00:01:29,354 "My name is Imari. 48 00:01:29,423 --> 00:01:32,858 "I'm a 22-year-old singer/songwriter from Ohio. 49 00:01:32,927 --> 00:01:34,993 "And three months ago, I reached out 50 00:01:35,062 --> 00:01:38,564 "to a fellow artist online who I really look up to. 51 00:01:38,632 --> 00:01:41,266 "At first, I just thought it could be cool to talk to her. 52 00:01:41,335 --> 00:01:42,901 "But we really hit it off, 53 00:01:42,970 --> 00:01:45,037 "and now we text every day. 54 00:01:45,106 --> 00:01:48,974 "She even asked me to send her some of my music, 55 00:01:49,510 --> 00:01:51,410 "and after hearing it, really wants me 56 00:01:51,479 --> 00:01:53,212 "to record with her. 57 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,780 "I'm thrilled, of course. 58 00:01:54,849 --> 00:01:57,583 - ♪ Not right now, but maybe down the line ♪ 59 00:01:57,651 --> 00:02:00,452 - "I was really looking forward to going to"--guess where. 60 00:02:00,521 --> 00:02:03,122 Recording artist, possible catfish. 61 00:02:03,190 --> 00:02:04,256 - Atlanta. - Yeah! 62 00:02:04,325 --> 00:02:05,824 - Of course. 63 00:02:05,893 --> 00:02:07,526 - ♪ Not right now, but maybe down the line ♪ 64 00:02:07,595 --> 00:02:09,461 - "Something feels off, 65 00:02:09,530 --> 00:02:11,396 "and I don't know if I should go. 66 00:02:11,465 --> 00:02:13,665 "She refuses to videochat or talk on the phone. 67 00:02:13,734 --> 00:02:15,868 "Now normally, I wouldn't be this suspicious. 68 00:02:15,936 --> 00:02:18,437 "But this person has a shady past. 69 00:02:18,506 --> 00:02:20,939 I know she's catfished people before..." 70 00:02:21,008 --> 00:02:24,009 ♪ ♪ 71 00:02:24,078 --> 00:02:26,345 Because she was on your show." 72 00:02:26,413 --> 00:02:28,580 - What are we doing here? - What? 73 00:02:28,649 --> 00:02:30,415 "That's why I'm writing to you 74 00:02:30,484 --> 00:02:31,750 "because you're probably 75 00:02:31,819 --> 00:02:33,185 "the only people who could help. 76 00:02:33,254 --> 00:02:35,254 "I would love for you guys to help me know the truth. 77 00:02:35,322 --> 00:02:38,390 "I really am putting my music career on the line here. 78 00:02:38,459 --> 00:02:40,325 Hope to hear from you, Imari." 79 00:02:40,394 --> 00:02:42,928 - ♪ Maybe down the line ♪ 80 00:02:42,997 --> 00:02:45,597 - First of all, Imari, you're playing yourself. 81 00:02:45,666 --> 00:02:48,500 You want to be hooked up with a catfish--what? 82 00:02:48,569 --> 00:02:50,202 - Let's just get in touch with Imari. 83 00:02:50,271 --> 00:02:52,404 "Just read your email and have so much questions. 84 00:02:52,473 --> 00:02:55,140 Jump on our Zoom." 85 00:02:55,209 --> 00:02:56,341 Wait a second. 86 00:02:56,410 --> 00:02:58,110 Who was on our show that's a musician? 87 00:02:58,179 --> 00:02:59,545 - You guys did an episode 88 00:02:59,613 --> 00:03:01,413 where you went to a recording studio, right? 89 00:03:01,482 --> 00:03:02,581 - Well-- - But that was a guy. 90 00:03:02,650 --> 00:03:04,082 - That was Kidd Cole. 91 00:03:04,151 --> 00:03:06,351 Is someone catfishing Imari, 92 00:03:06,420 --> 00:03:08,353 pretending to be a catfish? 93 00:03:08,422 --> 00:03:10,255 This is so confusing. - I don't get it. 94 00:03:10,324 --> 00:03:11,356 [doorbell chimes] 95 00:03:11,425 --> 00:03:13,425 Hey! - Hey! 96 00:03:13,494 --> 00:03:14,960 - You look gorgeous. 97 00:03:15,029 --> 00:03:16,395 - So do you. 98 00:03:16,463 --> 00:03:18,463 - I wanna copy/paste those braids 99 00:03:18,532 --> 00:03:19,698 onto my head right now. 100 00:03:19,767 --> 00:03:23,202 - Imari, you are in Ohio. Is that right? 101 00:03:23,270 --> 00:03:24,836 - I am. I'm in Columbus. 102 00:03:24,905 --> 00:03:27,406 - Is the music industry popping in Ohio? 103 00:03:27,474 --> 00:03:28,707 - Not as much as I would like. 104 00:03:28,776 --> 00:03:31,210 We have a few stars out of here. 105 00:03:31,278 --> 00:03:32,945 - Well, I was born in Cleveland. 106 00:03:33,013 --> 00:03:34,947 Stars can come out of Ohio. 107 00:03:35,015 --> 00:03:36,348 - Of course. Of course. 108 00:03:36,417 --> 00:03:38,250 - Okay, so wait a second. Enough small talk. 109 00:03:38,319 --> 00:03:39,551 If I read your email right, 110 00:03:39,620 --> 00:03:43,055 you're saying that someone who was on "Catfish" 111 00:03:43,123 --> 00:03:45,557 as the catfish... - Yeah. 112 00:03:45,626 --> 00:03:47,526 - Is seemingly catfishing you 113 00:03:47,595 --> 00:03:50,295 even though they are already known to be a catfish. 114 00:03:50,364 --> 00:03:51,830 Give us the whole story. 115 00:03:51,899 --> 00:03:55,133 - This person has also been on other shows, 116 00:03:55,202 --> 00:03:57,836 "106 & Park," to be specific. 117 00:03:57,905 --> 00:03:59,771 I used it to watch it all the time when I was a kid. 118 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,106 - Okay. - It was, like, the thing to do 119 00:04:01,175 --> 00:04:02,474 in the morning before school. 120 00:04:02,543 --> 00:04:04,710 - I'm trying to figure out who this person is. 121 00:04:04,778 --> 00:04:08,013 - Okay, so obviously when you say "106 & Park," 122 00:04:08,082 --> 00:04:10,315 that, for me, meant okay-- 123 00:04:10,384 --> 00:04:12,317 it has to be from the Bow Wow episode. 124 00:04:12,386 --> 00:04:13,585 Is it Dee Pimpin? - Shut the [bleep] up. 125 00:04:13,654 --> 00:04:16,388 - Is it Dee Pimpin or is it Keyonna? 126 00:04:16,457 --> 00:04:17,756 - It's Dee Pimpin. 127 00:04:17,825 --> 00:04:18,857 - Oh. 128 00:04:18,926 --> 00:04:20,158 - I'm the type I like a challenge. 129 00:04:20,227 --> 00:04:22,194 I like straight girls to see what I can do. 130 00:04:22,263 --> 00:04:24,596 - I mean, the last time we heard from Dee Pimpin, 131 00:04:24,665 --> 00:04:26,698 we did, like, a "Where Are They Now?" episode. 132 00:04:26,767 --> 00:04:29,067 Someone tried to break in or steal her bag or something, 133 00:04:29,136 --> 00:04:30,335 and she got shot. 134 00:04:30,404 --> 00:04:33,138 - My little self with a .45 caliber. 135 00:04:33,207 --> 00:04:36,074 The bullet hit me right here, and it went out my back. 136 00:04:36,143 --> 00:04:37,276 - Why are they trying to take out Dee Pimpin? 137 00:04:37,344 --> 00:04:38,810 - He was trying to rob me, 138 00:04:38,879 --> 00:04:41,346 trying to go in my pockets, take my chain, and everything. 139 00:04:41,415 --> 00:04:42,848 - She survived. She was okay. 140 00:04:42,916 --> 00:04:44,883 But, like, I didn't know she was still rapping. 141 00:04:44,952 --> 00:04:45,984 I can't believe it. - What? 142 00:04:46,053 --> 00:04:47,686 - How did you come across Dee Pimpin? 143 00:04:47,755 --> 00:04:49,755 - I've messaged celebrities before 144 00:04:49,823 --> 00:04:51,390 to just say, like, "Oh, hey. I love your stuff" 145 00:04:51,458 --> 00:04:52,524 or "You inspired me." 146 00:04:52,593 --> 00:04:53,625 And sometimes they do respond, 147 00:04:53,694 --> 00:04:54,826 and sometimes they do like the message. 148 00:04:54,895 --> 00:04:56,762 So I messaged her on Facebook, 149 00:04:56,830 --> 00:04:58,997 and we started messaging pretty frequently. 150 00:04:59,066 --> 00:05:01,400 - So you saw Dee Pimpin on "106 & Park..." 151 00:05:01,468 --> 00:05:03,135 - Dee Pimpin. 152 00:05:03,203 --> 00:05:05,304 - Became a fan, and eventually decided to reach out? 153 00:05:05,372 --> 00:05:06,505 - Yeah. 154 00:05:06,573 --> 00:05:08,440 - There are obviously a lot of artists 155 00:05:08,509 --> 00:05:09,675 that you could reach out to. 156 00:05:09,743 --> 00:05:10,976 What was it about her? 157 00:05:11,045 --> 00:05:14,146 - I really liked, you know, her style of rap. 158 00:05:14,214 --> 00:05:17,549 This is a person that I think is really cool and talented. 159 00:05:17,618 --> 00:05:19,584 And then I started following her on Facebook. 160 00:05:19,653 --> 00:05:21,853 And I seen her engaging with people, 161 00:05:21,922 --> 00:05:24,489 so I thought, like, she would be the type to respond. 162 00:05:24,558 --> 00:05:26,725 And we started messaging pretty frequently. 163 00:05:26,794 --> 00:05:28,794 - You said she has a lot of followers on there? 164 00:05:28,862 --> 00:05:31,263 - Yeah, yeah. - Do you have your phone handy? 165 00:05:31,332 --> 00:05:33,332 Can you plug it in and show us? 166 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,734 - This is it. both: Okay. 167 00:05:35,803 --> 00:05:38,937 - She's got almost 20,000 followers. 168 00:05:39,006 --> 00:05:41,873 - You messaged her first? - Mm-hmm. 169 00:05:41,942 --> 00:05:44,543 - And then she messaged you back from this page. 170 00:05:44,611 --> 00:05:46,244 - Yeah. - Have you talked to her 171 00:05:46,313 --> 00:05:49,047 on any other social media sites other than Facebook? 172 00:05:49,116 --> 00:05:51,383 - No, after we started messaging on Facebook, 173 00:05:51,452 --> 00:05:52,751 we moved to text messages. 174 00:05:52,820 --> 00:05:54,619 We started talking every day. 175 00:05:54,688 --> 00:05:56,288 She was super nice and sweet. 176 00:05:56,357 --> 00:05:57,723 She was really down to earth, 177 00:05:57,791 --> 00:05:59,124 so I found it very easy to talk to her. 178 00:05:59,193 --> 00:06:01,059 - Have you been asking her to FaceTime? 179 00:06:01,128 --> 00:06:03,095 Have you pressed her to get on the phone 180 00:06:03,163 --> 00:06:04,396 or to videochat? 181 00:06:04,465 --> 00:06:07,599 - One time, when I tried to call her, she didn't answer. 182 00:06:07,668 --> 00:06:10,335 Then she texted me later on saying, like, 183 00:06:10,404 --> 00:06:12,170 "Oh, I just caught up in some stuff. 184 00:06:12,239 --> 00:06:13,839 You know I'm gonna call you back later." 185 00:06:13,907 --> 00:06:15,607 But she never did call me back. 186 00:06:15,676 --> 00:06:17,776 But I was just like, I know that she's busy, 187 00:06:17,845 --> 00:06:19,945 so I'm not gonna take it personally. 188 00:06:20,013 --> 00:06:22,214 - And when you guys text, is it just friendly, 189 00:06:22,282 --> 00:06:25,617 or is it--what's the content of your messages? 190 00:06:25,686 --> 00:06:28,620 - We just talk about life 191 00:06:28,689 --> 00:06:30,756 and mainly music. 192 00:06:30,824 --> 00:06:33,258 - Do you date girls? - I don't. 193 00:06:33,327 --> 00:06:35,660 - But you know that Dee tends 194 00:06:35,729 --> 00:06:37,996 to hit on straight girls. 195 00:06:38,065 --> 00:06:39,364 - Mm-hmm. 196 00:06:39,433 --> 00:06:41,566 - Now that's something I didn't know. 197 00:06:41,635 --> 00:06:43,068 - Wait, so--okay, so wait a second. 198 00:06:43,137 --> 00:06:45,737 I mean, you saw her episode of "Catfish," right? 199 00:06:45,806 --> 00:06:47,639 - I did know that it was out there, 200 00:06:47,708 --> 00:06:48,874 but I haven't seen it myself. 201 00:06:48,942 --> 00:06:50,776 - What? Why didn't you watch it? 202 00:06:50,844 --> 00:06:52,244 - I'm kind of scared to watch it. 203 00:06:52,312 --> 00:06:56,214 I don't wanna know what was, like, on there, you know? 204 00:06:56,283 --> 00:06:57,949 - Well, let me fill you in. 205 00:06:58,018 --> 00:07:00,385 She would oftentimes find girls 206 00:07:00,454 --> 00:07:02,554 who thought she was a guy 207 00:07:02,623 --> 00:07:05,223 and even go as far 208 00:07:05,292 --> 00:07:08,827 to secretly put on a strap-on dildo underneath... 209 00:07:08,896 --> 00:07:10,162 - Strapping up. - No. 210 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:13,165 - Underneath a pair of boxers. - No. 211 00:07:13,233 --> 00:07:15,167 - And then have sex with the women. 212 00:07:15,235 --> 00:07:17,369 - It's, like, a real lambskin dildo. 213 00:07:17,438 --> 00:07:18,670 It's like human skin. 214 00:07:18,739 --> 00:07:19,838 But it's lamb. 215 00:07:19,907 --> 00:07:21,573 And, like, it feels real. 216 00:07:21,642 --> 00:07:23,408 Like, I've fooled a lot of chicks like that. 217 00:07:23,477 --> 00:07:24,876 - Oh, my God. 218 00:07:24,945 --> 00:07:26,878 - I don't know if she's still doing stuff like that 219 00:07:26,947 --> 00:07:28,280 or if that was a little phase she went through. 220 00:07:28,348 --> 00:07:29,881 We just got the impression that, you know, 221 00:07:29,950 --> 00:07:31,450 Dee was a bit of a scoundrel. 222 00:07:31,518 --> 00:07:32,751 She's a scoundrel. 223 00:07:32,820 --> 00:07:35,387 - I'm a bit taken aback by this information. 224 00:07:35,456 --> 00:07:37,189 Wow. 225 00:07:37,257 --> 00:07:38,824 - So she saw your messages. 226 00:07:38,892 --> 00:07:40,258 You just said, "Hey, I'm a fan. 227 00:07:40,327 --> 00:07:42,727 I'm an artist, like, I'm inspired by your work." 228 00:07:42,796 --> 00:07:44,963 And then she responded. How did it progress? 229 00:07:45,032 --> 00:07:47,666 - So she was just asking me about my music 230 00:07:47,734 --> 00:07:49,100 and where I'm from. 231 00:07:49,169 --> 00:07:50,936 I sent her my music, and she was like, 232 00:07:51,004 --> 00:07:52,737 "This is good. We should collab." 233 00:07:52,806 --> 00:07:54,039 - And your email said 234 00:07:54,107 --> 00:07:56,208 you're planning on going to Atlanta to visit her. 235 00:07:56,276 --> 00:07:58,410 - Yeah, I am planning a trip to go to Atlanta. 236 00:07:58,479 --> 00:08:00,278 She was like, "I could show you around. 237 00:08:00,347 --> 00:08:01,646 We could go to the studio." 238 00:08:01,715 --> 00:08:03,081 And I got really excited. 239 00:08:03,150 --> 00:08:06,818 I hold my music very, very near and dear to my heart, 240 00:08:06,887 --> 00:08:09,721 but making music is expensive. 241 00:08:09,790 --> 00:08:11,523 When I made my first EP, 242 00:08:11,592 --> 00:08:13,925 I put, like, every cent I had into that. 243 00:08:13,994 --> 00:08:15,694 - And you're spending your last dime on a trip 244 00:08:15,762 --> 00:08:17,596 to meet who the hell knows in Atlanta? 245 00:08:17,664 --> 00:08:19,064 - Yep. 246 00:08:19,132 --> 00:08:20,765 - You're not just putting your whole career on the line. 247 00:08:20,834 --> 00:08:22,367 This could be dangerous. - Right. 248 00:08:22,436 --> 00:08:25,170 - I know that, um, 249 00:08:25,239 --> 00:08:29,007 it's weird to talk to somebody for months and not see them, 250 00:08:29,076 --> 00:08:32,544 but they really can jumpstart my musical career. 251 00:08:32,613 --> 00:08:34,946 [tense music] 252 00:08:35,015 --> 00:08:36,815 - [laughs] - [sighs] 253 00:08:36,884 --> 00:08:38,083 I mean-- - Not the sighs. 254 00:08:38,151 --> 00:08:41,019 - No, I mean, look-- - Not the deep sigh. 255 00:08:41,088 --> 00:08:42,988 - Even--okay, look. - The deepest sigh. 256 00:08:43,056 --> 00:08:45,824 - Even if there was no shadow of a doubt 257 00:08:45,893 --> 00:08:48,960 that it was her, I'd still sigh 258 00:08:49,029 --> 00:08:52,330 because, like, the last impression I have of her is, 259 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:55,433 like, she's not the kind of person you wanna count on 260 00:08:55,502 --> 00:08:57,035 to deliver on what she says. 261 00:08:57,104 --> 00:08:58,770 But that was a long time ago, 262 00:08:58,839 --> 00:09:01,773 so I wanna give her a second chance. 263 00:09:01,842 --> 00:09:03,808 And I wanna believe that she's not just telling you 264 00:09:03,877 --> 00:09:05,277 all this stuff because she thinks you're hot 265 00:09:05,345 --> 00:09:07,379 and wants you to come to Atlanta so she can... 266 00:09:07,447 --> 00:09:09,981 - Strap up. - Child. 267 00:09:10,050 --> 00:09:11,883 - I'm just saying. - Mm mm mm mm. 268 00:09:11,952 --> 00:09:13,051 - That was the last thing I saw. 269 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,052 - Right. 270 00:09:14,121 --> 00:09:15,854 But here's what's so interesting. 271 00:09:15,923 --> 00:09:18,189 If that actually is Dee Pimpin's 272 00:09:18,258 --> 00:09:19,891 actual Facebook page, 273 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,628 there'd be no reason why she'd be shady 274 00:09:23,697 --> 00:09:26,398 and not, like, calling or videochatting. 275 00:09:26,466 --> 00:09:29,167 So does that mean that someone's got a catfish page 276 00:09:29,236 --> 00:09:30,769 of Dee Pimpin 277 00:09:30,837 --> 00:09:33,705 and that you're not even talking to the real Dee? 278 00:09:33,774 --> 00:09:35,307 - If you're not talking to Dee, 279 00:09:35,375 --> 00:09:37,442 and you're not talking to some rando in Atlanta 280 00:09:37,511 --> 00:09:39,678 who has plans on picking you up from the airport 281 00:09:39,746 --> 00:09:42,314 and taking you to God knows where, 282 00:09:42,382 --> 00:09:43,815 that could be very dangerous. 283 00:09:43,884 --> 00:09:45,684 - Always a safety thing. 284 00:09:45,752 --> 00:09:48,153 If I'm going to come and meet you in person, 285 00:09:48,221 --> 00:09:50,455 I feel like I need to be able to trust you. 286 00:09:50,524 --> 00:09:52,724 - Right, well also, you are trying to take your career 287 00:09:52,793 --> 00:09:54,159 to the next level 288 00:09:54,227 --> 00:09:56,061 if you're gonna be sending someone your music. 289 00:09:56,129 --> 00:09:57,028 - Right. 290 00:09:57,097 --> 00:09:58,363 - Like, the industry is sheisty. 291 00:09:58,432 --> 00:09:59,698 - Oh, definitely, definitely. 292 00:09:59,766 --> 00:10:01,066 - Like, my boyfriend's in the music industry. 293 00:10:01,134 --> 00:10:02,767 People steal [bleep] all the time. 294 00:10:02,836 --> 00:10:05,470 So, like, you sending, you know, beats 295 00:10:05,539 --> 00:10:07,439 or music, lyrics, whatever, 296 00:10:07,507 --> 00:10:10,475 somebody could easily take them and use them for themselves. 297 00:10:10,544 --> 00:10:12,277 You can't ever be too safe. 298 00:10:12,346 --> 00:10:13,578 - Exactly. 299 00:10:13,647 --> 00:10:16,948 Like, if I just went, it could be anybody. 300 00:10:17,017 --> 00:10:19,150 And I have to know the truth. 301 00:10:19,219 --> 00:10:21,353 - Well, look, I mean, the good news is 302 00:10:21,421 --> 00:10:23,088 if it is Dee, 303 00:10:23,156 --> 00:10:25,924 it should be really easy for us to prove that 304 00:10:25,993 --> 00:10:28,059 because I have her number still 305 00:10:28,128 --> 00:10:30,028 from when we made the episode. 306 00:10:30,097 --> 00:10:31,630 So we could just call her 307 00:10:31,698 --> 00:10:34,232 and save ourselves a lot of time. 308 00:10:34,301 --> 00:10:36,501 - This is it. This is crunch time. 309 00:10:36,570 --> 00:10:38,903 - This could be the shortest episode we've ever done. 310 00:10:38,972 --> 00:10:40,105 - Let's call and see. 311 00:10:40,173 --> 00:10:42,907 - I'm not ready for this right now at all. 312 00:10:42,976 --> 00:10:45,210 [line trilling] 313 00:10:45,278 --> 00:10:46,778 [tense music] 314 00:10:47,781 --> 00:10:49,781 - Hello. Is this Dee? 315 00:10:50,851 --> 00:10:52,017 - It's Dee! 316 00:10:52,619 --> 00:10:54,319 - [laughing] 317 00:10:54,388 --> 00:10:55,487 - Oh, my God. 318 00:10:55,555 --> 00:10:56,755 - I can't believe-- 319 00:10:56,823 --> 00:10:59,190 I can't believe I'm talking to Dee Pimpin. 320 00:11:01,662 --> 00:11:03,461 - Hold on. 321 00:11:03,530 --> 00:11:05,030 Can you get on a Zoom call? 322 00:11:06,299 --> 00:11:09,234 - Great, I'm gonna send you a link real quick. 323 00:11:09,836 --> 00:11:11,436 - All right, all right. Great, great, great. 324 00:11:11,505 --> 00:11:12,871 Oh, my God. 325 00:11:12,939 --> 00:11:14,205 - I'm sweating. 326 00:11:14,274 --> 00:11:15,273 - As soon as she comes on the Zoom, 327 00:11:15,342 --> 00:11:16,675 she should know who you are, right? 328 00:11:16,743 --> 00:11:18,109 - Mm-hmm. 329 00:11:18,178 --> 00:11:20,278 - If not, she's definitely gonna want you. 330 00:11:20,347 --> 00:11:21,479 - [laughs] 331 00:11:21,548 --> 00:11:22,781 ♪ ♪ 332 00:11:22,849 --> 00:11:23,948 [doorbell chimes] 333 00:11:24,017 --> 00:11:25,517 - Uh! - [laughs] 334 00:11:25,585 --> 00:11:26,885 - Oh! 335 00:11:28,121 --> 00:11:29,888 - Hey. What's good? 336 00:11:29,956 --> 00:11:31,423 What's good, what's good, what's good? 337 00:11:31,491 --> 00:11:32,657 - What's up, Dee? 338 00:11:32,726 --> 00:11:34,225 - What's up, Nev? 339 00:11:34,294 --> 00:11:36,127 - [laughing] 340 00:11:36,196 --> 00:11:38,029 - How you doing, Kamie? It's good to see you as well. 341 00:11:38,098 --> 00:11:39,931 - And this is Imari. 342 00:11:41,668 --> 00:11:42,901 - Nice to finally see you as well. 343 00:11:42,969 --> 00:11:43,935 [dramatic music] 344 00:11:44,004 --> 00:11:45,236 - Now wait a second. 345 00:11:45,305 --> 00:11:46,805 Do you know Imari? 346 00:11:46,873 --> 00:11:48,039 ♪ ♪ 347 00:11:49,276 --> 00:11:50,241 - What's up, Dee? 348 00:11:50,310 --> 00:11:53,311 - What's up Nev? - [laughing] 349 00:11:53,380 --> 00:11:55,113 - Good to see you. I'm Kamie. 350 00:11:55,182 --> 00:11:57,148 - How you doing, Kamie? It's good to see you as well. 351 00:11:57,217 --> 00:11:58,917 - And this is Imari. 352 00:12:00,620 --> 00:12:01,953 - Nice to finally see you as well. 353 00:12:05,592 --> 00:12:07,659 - Now wait a second. Do you know Imari? 354 00:12:07,728 --> 00:12:09,828 What do you mean when you say, "Nice to finally see you?" 355 00:12:09,896 --> 00:12:11,262 - I don't know. I'm just saying 356 00:12:11,331 --> 00:12:12,297 nice to finally see you as well. 357 00:12:12,365 --> 00:12:14,232 - [laughing] 358 00:12:14,301 --> 00:12:15,266 - You know, that's the charm. 359 00:12:15,335 --> 00:12:16,601 You know, it's just the charm. 360 00:12:16,670 --> 00:12:17,902 - It is. It's the charm. 361 00:12:17,971 --> 00:12:19,904 It's the charm. Okay, so hold on a second. 362 00:12:19,973 --> 00:12:22,507 We've got something serious we need to discuss. 363 00:12:22,576 --> 00:12:26,444 Imari, who is a singer and songwriter, 364 00:12:26,513 --> 00:12:28,179 was a fan... - Okay. 365 00:12:28,248 --> 00:12:31,082 - And started messaging someone off of a Facebook page 366 00:12:31,151 --> 00:12:33,284 that she believed to be yours. 367 00:12:33,353 --> 00:12:34,352 [dramatic music] 368 00:12:34,421 --> 00:12:35,854 And then they've been texting. 369 00:12:35,922 --> 00:12:37,789 They've been talking about making music together, 370 00:12:37,858 --> 00:12:40,358 and Imari was thinking about going to Atlanta 371 00:12:40,427 --> 00:12:41,893 because you had said 372 00:12:41,962 --> 00:12:43,895 that you would want to do a collab with her. 373 00:12:43,964 --> 00:12:45,563 - I'm sorry. 374 00:12:45,632 --> 00:12:46,698 It's definitely not me. 375 00:12:46,767 --> 00:12:48,600 Like, that Facebook page, 376 00:12:48,668 --> 00:12:50,201 people been trying to extort me for money and everything 377 00:12:50,270 --> 00:12:51,569 for years about that page. 378 00:12:51,638 --> 00:12:53,071 - Oh, so you've heard of it? 379 00:12:54,107 --> 00:12:55,840 You can give us - Thfive bands for it."eah. 380 00:12:55,909 --> 00:12:56,975 Like, nah. 381 00:12:58,044 --> 00:12:59,410 - So the Facebook page I that has, like,." 382 00:12:59,479 --> 00:13:01,913 19,000 followers, that's not yours? 383 00:13:01,982 --> 00:13:04,516 - Yeah, like, he took my name on Facebook-- 384 00:13:04,584 --> 00:13:07,051 he or she, whoever it is-- they took my name, 385 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,487 so now I can't even use my name on Facebook anymore. 386 00:13:09,556 --> 00:13:10,855 And, like, Facebook, like, 387 00:13:10,924 --> 00:13:12,857 they thought that that was the original one. 388 00:13:12,926 --> 00:13:13,892 Which it had a lot of followers, 389 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,927 so I wouldn't blame 'em, but it's not me. 390 00:13:15,996 --> 00:13:18,129 Like, could you tell whoever it is, like, give it to me 391 00:13:18,198 --> 00:13:19,597 because it's not me? 392 00:13:19,666 --> 00:13:22,100 - So somebody is, like, dedicating their life and time 393 00:13:22,169 --> 00:13:23,401 to, like, being fake you. 394 00:13:23,470 --> 00:13:24,836 - Yeah, basically. - Wow. 395 00:13:24,905 --> 00:13:26,638 How--and that page has been up a while. 396 00:13:26,706 --> 00:13:28,006 - Yeah, it's been up a long time. 397 00:13:28,074 --> 00:13:30,708 - But do you have a page for yourself? 398 00:13:30,777 --> 00:13:32,610 - They took my name, so now I can't even use 399 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,445 my name on Facebook anymore. 400 00:13:34,514 --> 00:13:36,848 - We gotta get that page. - Yeah. 401 00:13:36,917 --> 00:13:38,950 - So you're saying when you first found out 402 00:13:39,019 --> 00:13:41,419 that there was a fake Dee Pimpin page, 403 00:13:41,488 --> 00:13:43,121 you got in touch with them, and they said, 404 00:13:43,190 --> 00:13:45,523 "Oh, we'll give you the page if you give us money." 405 00:13:47,394 --> 00:13:48,726 - Like, I had a manager at the time. 406 00:13:48,795 --> 00:13:50,829 But I don't work with Tony anymore. 407 00:13:50,897 --> 00:13:53,231 - Was it a bad falling out? - Yeah. 408 00:13:53,300 --> 00:13:54,632 He still think we cool. 409 00:13:54,701 --> 00:13:56,000 He still think, like, everything is good with us 410 00:13:56,069 --> 00:13:57,836 but I can't trust him anymore. 411 00:13:57,904 --> 00:13:59,604 - Man, I wonder how do we even know 412 00:13:59,673 --> 00:14:01,472 that your manager really did talk to them? 413 00:14:01,541 --> 00:14:02,807 - That's what I'm saying too, like-- 414 00:14:02,876 --> 00:14:04,676 - Or that your manager didn't make the page? 415 00:14:04,744 --> 00:14:06,611 - Or that your manager wasn't just saying that 416 00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:07,979 to get whatever money 417 00:14:08,048 --> 00:14:09,848 from you that you were gonna send to them. 418 00:14:09,916 --> 00:14:12,083 - What's Tony's phone number? 419 00:14:12,152 --> 00:14:13,718 - Uh... 420 00:14:13,787 --> 00:14:15,220 - Imari, I'm just curious to see 421 00:14:15,288 --> 00:14:17,622 if it's the same phone number you have for Dee. 422 00:14:17,691 --> 00:14:19,057 [dramatic music] 423 00:14:19,125 --> 00:14:21,292 - Um, 404... 424 00:14:21,361 --> 00:14:23,094 ♪ ♪ 425 00:14:23,163 --> 00:14:25,129 - Uh-oh. 426 00:14:25,198 --> 00:14:26,397 - 599. 427 00:14:26,466 --> 00:14:28,099 - Oh. - Okay. 428 00:14:28,168 --> 00:14:29,500 - It's not the same number. 429 00:14:29,569 --> 00:14:31,502 - Whew! - Not the same one. 430 00:14:31,571 --> 00:14:34,639 - Well, this is now much bigger 431 00:14:34,708 --> 00:14:36,040 than what we thought. 432 00:14:36,109 --> 00:14:37,909 - Well, I wanna find out though. 433 00:14:37,978 --> 00:14:40,011 - Yeah. - You're not the only one. 434 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,747 - Have they ever asked you for money, Imari? 435 00:14:42,816 --> 00:14:45,383 - No. They haven't. 436 00:14:45,452 --> 00:14:47,352 They only just asked me, like, 437 00:14:47,420 --> 00:14:50,088 when I was coming, if I was still coming and... 438 00:14:50,156 --> 00:14:51,155 - I'm sorry. 439 00:14:51,224 --> 00:14:52,557 - It seems like this 440 00:14:52,626 --> 00:14:54,692 is completely out of your control so... 441 00:14:54,761 --> 00:14:55,827 - You didn't ever try to, like, 442 00:14:55,896 --> 00:14:57,262 videochat them or anything, like? 443 00:14:57,330 --> 00:14:58,997 - No, I mean, I tried to call. 444 00:14:59,065 --> 00:14:59,864 No answer. 445 00:14:59,933 --> 00:15:01,032 I didn't wanna really press it 446 00:15:01,101 --> 00:15:02,901 because I thought I was talking to you. 447 00:15:02,969 --> 00:15:05,270 You might be busy doing things, you know. 448 00:15:05,338 --> 00:15:06,704 You're in the mix, 449 00:15:06,773 --> 00:15:08,840 so I didn't wanna press down, you know, too much. 450 00:15:08,909 --> 00:15:11,809 But they never called me back. 451 00:15:11,878 --> 00:15:14,479 - I saw your episode, and you know, 452 00:15:14,547 --> 00:15:15,546 you was up to no good. 453 00:15:15,615 --> 00:15:16,948 - I know, I know, I know, I know. 454 00:15:17,017 --> 00:15:20,285 - So could it be someone trying to get revenge on you 455 00:15:20,353 --> 00:15:22,987 for how you were back in the day? 456 00:15:23,056 --> 00:15:25,590 - When was the last time you communicated with that page? 457 00:15:25,659 --> 00:15:28,059 - Sh, uh, it's been years ago. 458 00:15:28,128 --> 00:15:30,328 Like, after they kept saying about the money, 459 00:15:30,397 --> 00:15:32,730 pushing the issue about money, I left it alone. 460 00:15:32,799 --> 00:15:34,933 - It's time to get to the bottom of who's doing this. 461 00:15:35,001 --> 00:15:36,634 - Just give me my main. It's only me. 462 00:15:36,703 --> 00:15:38,736 Just give me back me. Give me me! 463 00:15:38,805 --> 00:15:39,837 - All right, so you get in touch with Tony. 464 00:15:39,906 --> 00:15:40,872 - Okay. 465 00:15:40,941 --> 00:15:42,240 - We'll start doing some research. 466 00:15:42,309 --> 00:15:45,109 And then collectively, I think we can figure this out. 467 00:15:45,178 --> 00:15:46,711 - Yeah, we got to. We have to. 468 00:15:46,780 --> 00:15:49,080 - Thanks, Dee. - All right, y'all welcome. 469 00:15:49,149 --> 00:15:51,649 - [sighs] 470 00:15:51,718 --> 00:15:53,885 - This sucks. - Yeah. 471 00:15:53,954 --> 00:15:56,587 It's whack that you've wasted time. 472 00:15:56,656 --> 00:15:58,189 What are they trying to get out of this? 473 00:15:58,258 --> 00:15:59,524 - Apparently me to come to Atlanta 474 00:15:59,592 --> 00:16:01,159 because they kept asking about it. 475 00:16:01,227 --> 00:16:03,861 - The fact that this person has been so adamant 476 00:16:03,930 --> 00:16:06,731 about getting you to come to Atlanta 477 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,232 right from the bat. 478 00:16:08,301 --> 00:16:09,634 And you have no idea 479 00:16:09,703 --> 00:16:11,002 who would've been there waiting for you. 480 00:16:11,071 --> 00:16:12,904 That's so dangerous. - Right. 481 00:16:12,973 --> 00:16:14,973 - All right, well look. Imari, hang in there. 482 00:16:15,041 --> 00:16:16,741 We'll start working and let you know 483 00:16:16,810 --> 00:16:17,875 as soon as we find something. 484 00:16:17,944 --> 00:16:19,744 - You got it. - All right. 485 00:16:19,813 --> 00:16:21,479 - Wow. What do you think? 486 00:16:21,548 --> 00:16:22,880 - You said it yourself. 487 00:16:22,949 --> 00:16:26,651 Like, Dee has a reputation for being up to no good. 488 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,886 She could just be pretending not to know Imari 489 00:16:28,955 --> 00:16:31,389 because she knows that she's been up to some [bleep] 490 00:16:31,458 --> 00:16:32,757 on this Facebook page. 491 00:16:32,826 --> 00:16:34,692 Maybe this is, like, her way of trying 492 00:16:34,761 --> 00:16:36,260 "to clear her name," 493 00:16:36,329 --> 00:16:38,262 but it is actually her. 494 00:16:38,331 --> 00:16:39,998 She has a reputation. 495 00:16:40,066 --> 00:16:41,599 Whoever is behind all of this 496 00:16:41,668 --> 00:16:43,267 is up to no good, that's for sure. 497 00:16:43,336 --> 00:16:44,235 [dramatic music] 498 00:16:45,939 --> 00:16:47,839 - Okay, so we got some work to do 499 00:16:47,907 --> 00:16:49,474 although this is different 500 00:16:49,542 --> 00:16:52,176 because we already know right off the bat 501 00:16:52,245 --> 00:16:54,946 that Imari is not talking to Dee Pimpin. 502 00:16:55,015 --> 00:16:56,381 - Allegedly. 503 00:16:56,449 --> 00:16:57,749 - Right. - I don't know. 504 00:16:57,817 --> 00:16:59,484 I don't wanna throw Dee under the bus 505 00:16:59,552 --> 00:17:02,186 'cause she could very well just be a victim in all of this. 506 00:17:02,255 --> 00:17:04,589 But, like, Dee has a reputation 507 00:17:04,657 --> 00:17:06,357 for being up to no good. 508 00:17:06,426 --> 00:17:07,859 [computer chimes] - Oh, wait. 509 00:17:07,927 --> 00:17:09,894 Okay. Texts from Dee. 510 00:17:09,963 --> 00:17:11,162 "I tried to get in touch with Tony. 511 00:17:11,231 --> 00:17:12,964 I don't know if he'll want to talk to you." 512 00:17:13,033 --> 00:17:15,767 She gave us his number and his Facebook. 513 00:17:15,835 --> 00:17:18,603 So we can, I guess, reach out 514 00:17:18,671 --> 00:17:20,505 to Dee's former manager, Tony. 515 00:17:20,573 --> 00:17:23,241 And then Imari sent us 516 00:17:23,309 --> 00:17:26,010 the phone number that she has for Dee 517 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:28,079 and the Facebook page. 518 00:17:28,148 --> 00:17:30,648 All right, so I'm gonna copy the phone number 519 00:17:30,717 --> 00:17:33,384 that Imari's been talking 520 00:17:33,453 --> 00:17:34,986 "to the fake Dee on." 521 00:17:35,055 --> 00:17:36,487 All right, and I'm gonna search the-- 522 00:17:36,556 --> 00:17:39,023 so this is the fake Dee Pimpin number. 523 00:17:39,092 --> 00:17:40,958 Let's see who comes up. 524 00:17:41,027 --> 00:17:42,026 [dramatic music] 525 00:17:42,095 --> 00:17:44,562 - Eric Johnson. - Hm. 526 00:17:44,631 --> 00:17:46,264 Georgia--Atlanta. 527 00:17:46,332 --> 00:17:48,066 - There's probably a million Eric Johnsons 528 00:17:48,134 --> 00:17:49,700 that live in Atlanta. 529 00:17:49,769 --> 00:17:51,202 - I know. 530 00:17:51,271 --> 00:17:53,237 Uh, all right. 531 00:17:53,306 --> 00:17:54,739 Well, let's just go to the Facebook page. 532 00:17:54,808 --> 00:17:55,873 - Yes. - All right. 533 00:17:55,942 --> 00:17:58,176 So this is the page 534 00:17:58,244 --> 00:18:00,912 that Imari has been talking with. 535 00:18:00,980 --> 00:18:03,214 Wow. This goes way back. 536 00:18:03,283 --> 00:18:05,316 For the last seven years, 537 00:18:05,385 --> 00:18:08,519 there's been a lot of people commenting on this page 538 00:18:08,588 --> 00:18:10,021 thinking it's her. 539 00:18:10,090 --> 00:18:11,856 "I love your music. Get at me." 540 00:18:11,925 --> 00:18:13,091 Wow. 541 00:18:13,159 --> 00:18:15,493 This page has some serious engagement. 542 00:18:15,562 --> 00:18:17,261 - Now it just looks like somebody else 543 00:18:17,330 --> 00:18:20,164 has had this page for seven years. 544 00:18:20,233 --> 00:18:22,533 Could it be the manager that she had during that time? 545 00:18:22,602 --> 00:18:23,701 - Right. Tony. 546 00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:25,803 - Maybe Tony felt like 547 00:18:25,872 --> 00:18:27,572 he didn't get X, Y, and Z 548 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,006 that he felt like he deserved to get, 549 00:18:29,075 --> 00:18:31,576 and maybe this is his revenge? 550 00:18:31,644 --> 00:18:32,543 - Let's hit up Tony. 551 00:18:33,813 --> 00:18:35,913 "Hey, Tony. This is Nev from 'Catfish.' 552 00:18:35,982 --> 00:18:38,916 "Hoping you could help us out. 553 00:18:38,985 --> 00:18:41,686 Let me know." Okay. 554 00:18:41,754 --> 00:18:44,288 All right. Texted Tony. 555 00:18:44,357 --> 00:18:46,290 All right. We're back on the Dee page. 556 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,459 We haven't really looked through it that closely. 557 00:18:48,528 --> 00:18:50,161 All right. So here are the pictures. 558 00:18:50,230 --> 00:18:52,897 - She got a lot of comments and engagement back in the day. 559 00:18:52,966 --> 00:18:53,931 - Yeah, right? 560 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,666 I mean, it feels pretty legit. 561 00:18:55,735 --> 00:18:57,034 - It does. 562 00:18:57,103 --> 00:18:59,370 - I mean, I would assume this was her page. 563 00:18:59,439 --> 00:19:01,439 - Look. Two of Dee's songs. 564 00:19:01,508 --> 00:19:05,042 And a song called "CatFish" that features KeeZY. 565 00:19:05,111 --> 00:19:06,511 Who is KeeZY? 566 00:19:06,579 --> 00:19:09,647 - And then they tagged this Jaylenz person. 567 00:19:09,716 --> 00:19:11,315 Who is this? 568 00:19:11,384 --> 00:19:14,385 Hmm. Nothing really on this page. 569 00:19:14,454 --> 00:19:15,720 - Let's check out those videos. 570 00:19:15,788 --> 00:19:17,989 Click the BET one. 571 00:19:18,458 --> 00:19:20,925 - ♪ Yeah, it be like step, step back ♪ 572 00:19:20,994 --> 00:19:22,927 ♪ Who that is, Lil Pimpin ♪ 573 00:19:22,996 --> 00:19:24,328 ♪ It's like a damn movie ♪ 574 00:19:24,397 --> 00:19:26,264 - Yep, yep, yep. 575 00:19:26,332 --> 00:19:28,499 ♪ Head held high, got my ego talking to me ♪ 576 00:19:28,568 --> 00:19:30,234 - Okay, I'm not even trying to be funny. 577 00:19:30,303 --> 00:19:33,404 Dee Pimpin does sound like a young Bow Wow. 578 00:19:33,473 --> 00:19:35,907 Okay, so now let's listen to Dee's other track 579 00:19:35,975 --> 00:19:37,775 with KeeZY and Jaylenz. 580 00:19:37,844 --> 00:19:40,244 [distorted rapping] 581 00:19:40,313 --> 00:19:41,746 - ♪ Snatch snatch your CV on ♪ 582 00:19:41,814 --> 00:19:42,780 ♪ Dee Pimpin press-- ♪ 583 00:19:42,849 --> 00:19:44,315 - That's not Dee's voice. 584 00:19:44,384 --> 00:19:45,783 - It didn't really sound like her, right? 585 00:19:45,852 --> 00:19:46,918 - Who the [bleep] is that? 586 00:19:46,986 --> 00:19:48,152 - ♪ So I sleep by the phone ♪ 587 00:19:48,221 --> 00:19:49,453 ♪ MCB, I got DMs--♪ 588 00:19:49,522 --> 00:19:51,289 - Not even a little bit. - So that's weird. 589 00:19:51,357 --> 00:19:53,991 So that means that the fake Facebook page for Dee 590 00:19:54,060 --> 00:19:56,928 is posting fake Dee Pimpin music. 591 00:19:56,996 --> 00:19:59,096 - Right. - So it must be trying 592 00:19:59,165 --> 00:20:00,898 to promote music that has some connection 593 00:20:00,967 --> 00:20:03,668 to the person who's actually behind the page. 594 00:20:03,736 --> 00:20:05,403 - Jaylenz and KeeZY. 595 00:20:05,471 --> 00:20:08,739 These two have songs "featuring Dee Pimpin" 596 00:20:08,808 --> 00:20:10,308 that aren't actually featuring Dee Pimpin. 597 00:20:10,376 --> 00:20:11,209 - Yeah. 598 00:20:11,277 --> 00:20:13,544 - What if it's this KeeZY person 599 00:20:13,613 --> 00:20:16,814 trying to use Dee's name to push their music? 600 00:20:16,883 --> 00:20:18,282 - It could also just be that 601 00:20:18,351 --> 00:20:20,685 the doofus running this fake page 602 00:20:20,753 --> 00:20:22,153 didn't even realize 603 00:20:22,222 --> 00:20:24,288 that those are not actually Dee Pimpin tracks. 604 00:20:24,357 --> 00:20:25,523 And they just saw those... - Ooh. 605 00:20:25,592 --> 00:20:26,958 - And were like, "Oh. I should share this 606 00:20:27,026 --> 00:20:28,492 "because I'm supposed to be Dee Pimpin, 607 00:20:28,561 --> 00:20:30,061 so I should share it." - Mm. 608 00:20:30,129 --> 00:20:31,529 - And they didn't even realize it wasn't her 609 00:20:31,598 --> 00:20:35,032 because they don't even know what she should sound like. 610 00:20:35,101 --> 00:20:36,701 - We should ask Dee about these two. 611 00:20:36,769 --> 00:20:37,835 [phone ringing] - Oh. 612 00:20:37,904 --> 00:20:39,003 Now I'm getting--wait, hold on. 613 00:20:39,072 --> 00:20:40,571 I'm getting a phone call from Georgia. 614 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,173 Hello? 615 00:20:42,242 --> 00:20:43,441 - Hey, this is Tony. 616 00:20:43,509 --> 00:20:44,508 I was looking to speak with Nev? 617 00:20:44,577 --> 00:20:45,576 - Hey, Tony. 618 00:20:45,645 --> 00:20:47,812 We're, uh, trying to help someone 619 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,647 who's become friends with Dee Pimpin. 620 00:20:49,716 --> 00:20:50,781 - Uh-huh. 621 00:20:50,850 --> 00:20:52,283 - And when we talked to Dee, 622 00:20:52,352 --> 00:20:54,585 she said that when you guys were working together, 623 00:20:54,654 --> 00:20:57,421 you were in contact with someone 624 00:20:57,490 --> 00:21:00,091 who was controlling the Dee Pimpin Facebook page. 625 00:21:00,159 --> 00:21:01,292 Do you remember all that? 626 00:21:24,717 --> 00:21:25,983 - Okay. 627 00:21:26,052 --> 00:21:28,319 Have you ever heard of KeeZY or Jaylenz? 628 00:21:29,989 --> 00:21:31,756 - Okay. I appreciate the help. 629 00:21:33,159 --> 00:21:34,091 - All right. Thanks, Tony. 630 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,426 - Bye. - Bye. 631 00:21:35,495 --> 00:21:37,995 All right, so we know that 632 00:21:38,064 --> 00:21:40,865 shortly after Dee's "Catfish" episode aired, 633 00:21:40,933 --> 00:21:43,067 her business email got hacked. 634 00:21:43,136 --> 00:21:45,269 And whoever hacked it tried to get Tony 635 00:21:45,338 --> 00:21:46,937 to buy it back. 636 00:21:47,006 --> 00:21:48,739 - If we believe Tony. - True. 637 00:21:48,808 --> 00:21:50,374 But even if he is telling the truth, 638 00:21:50,443 --> 00:21:52,043 we don't necessarily know 639 00:21:52,111 --> 00:21:54,245 that it was the same person who then started the Facebook page. 640 00:21:54,314 --> 00:21:55,579 - What doesn't help us is the fact 641 00:21:55,648 --> 00:21:59,116 that Dee at the time had so many enemies 642 00:21:59,185 --> 00:22:00,718 that it could literally be.. 643 00:22:00,787 --> 00:22:01,819 both: Anyone. 644 00:22:01,888 --> 00:22:03,521 [dramatic music] 645 00:22:05,191 --> 00:22:06,223 - So let's get Imari back in here. 646 00:22:06,292 --> 00:22:08,192 And then maybe we can bring in Dee. 647 00:22:08,261 --> 00:22:09,927 Explain everything to everybody. 648 00:22:09,996 --> 00:22:13,130 And collectively decide what we think the next best step is. 649 00:22:13,199 --> 00:22:14,532 'Cause this is a team now. 650 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,133 We got, you know, we got a whole squad. 651 00:22:16,202 --> 00:22:18,002 - Let's collab. - Yeah. 652 00:22:18,071 --> 00:22:19,103 [doorbell chimes] 653 00:22:19,172 --> 00:22:20,237 - Hi. 654 00:22:20,306 --> 00:22:21,672 - Hey. - How's it going? 655 00:22:21,741 --> 00:22:23,007 - We wanna bring Dee in 656 00:22:23,076 --> 00:22:26,110 and kind of debrief both of you on what's been going on. 657 00:22:26,179 --> 00:22:28,446 - And we wanted to talk to you alone 658 00:22:28,514 --> 00:22:30,715 because for a minute, we were thinking--okay. 659 00:22:30,783 --> 00:22:32,149 Is it possible 660 00:22:32,218 --> 00:22:33,884 that even though we spoke to Dee, 661 00:22:33,953 --> 00:22:37,054 and she seemed very transparent and honest 662 00:22:37,123 --> 00:22:38,356 about not knowing you, 663 00:22:38,424 --> 00:22:39,623 we thought is there a chance that maybe 664 00:22:39,692 --> 00:22:41,759 she could be somehow behind this or involved? 665 00:22:41,828 --> 00:22:43,728 - What does your gut tell you, Imari? 666 00:22:43,796 --> 00:22:46,731 Do you feel like Dee could have something to do with this? 667 00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:49,233 - I don't know, the whole story she told earlier 668 00:22:49,302 --> 00:22:51,602 about not being able to get the page 669 00:22:51,671 --> 00:22:54,772 and other people messaging her asking for money about it, 670 00:22:54,841 --> 00:22:56,240 I--I believed her. 671 00:22:56,309 --> 00:22:59,243 - I don't want to think that that is the case, 672 00:22:59,312 --> 00:23:00,411 but we can't rule it out. 673 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,380 She has a history of dishonesty. 674 00:23:02,448 --> 00:23:04,749 We're stupid if we're not a little suspicious. 675 00:23:04,817 --> 00:23:06,117 - Hm. 676 00:23:06,185 --> 00:23:07,818 - Right, so let me text Dee. 677 00:23:07,887 --> 00:23:10,888 - You gotta be careful. - Well, yeah. 678 00:23:10,957 --> 00:23:12,723 I mean, especially if you're 679 00:23:12,792 --> 00:23:15,493 pursuing a career in the music business. 680 00:23:15,561 --> 00:23:17,395 People are gonna try to scam you all the time. 681 00:23:17,463 --> 00:23:18,396 - Right. 682 00:23:18,464 --> 00:23:20,431 - All right, well let's bring in Dee. 683 00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:22,733 And we'll kind of just fill you in on the rest 684 00:23:22,802 --> 00:23:24,135 and some of the things that we're thinking. 685 00:23:24,203 --> 00:23:25,102 - Yes, sir. - What's up? 686 00:23:25,171 --> 00:23:27,004 - Hi. - Okay. 687 00:23:27,073 --> 00:23:30,641 So here's what we've been doing. 688 00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:33,477 Obviously, we ran the number that Imari gave us, 689 00:23:33,546 --> 00:23:37,515 and it did come back to someone named Eric Johnson. 690 00:23:37,583 --> 00:23:39,650 But that's a pretty generic name. 691 00:23:39,719 --> 00:23:41,419 There's no way we can really search it. 692 00:23:41,487 --> 00:23:44,555 Anyway, so when we went 693 00:23:44,624 --> 00:23:46,557 to the fake Dee Pimpin page... 694 00:23:46,626 --> 00:23:47,458 - Okay. 695 00:23:47,527 --> 00:23:48,659 - We were just scrolling through 696 00:23:48,728 --> 00:23:50,194 to see kind of what was on there, 697 00:23:50,263 --> 00:23:53,364 and we saw that they had posted a link 698 00:23:53,433 --> 00:23:57,234 to a YouTube music video for a Dee Pimpin song 699 00:23:57,303 --> 00:23:59,170 featuring these other two artists, 700 00:23:59,238 --> 00:24:01,038 Jaylenz and KeeZY. 701 00:24:01,107 --> 00:24:03,741 And when we listened to it, there was a verse by Dee 702 00:24:03,810 --> 00:24:05,276 that didn't really sound like you. 703 00:24:05,344 --> 00:24:06,944 - ♪ Snatch snatch your CV on ♪ 704 00:24:07,013 --> 00:24:09,447 ♪ Dee Pimpin, press won't leave me alone ♪ 705 00:24:09,515 --> 00:24:11,215 - Dee, is that your voice on the track? 706 00:24:11,284 --> 00:24:13,350 Do you know these guys? - Mm-mm. 707 00:24:13,419 --> 00:24:15,619 I ain't never of them until today. 708 00:24:15,688 --> 00:24:19,023 - Now why would the fake Dee Pimpin page 709 00:24:19,091 --> 00:24:21,725 post fake Dee Pimpin music? 710 00:24:21,794 --> 00:24:23,861 In my opinion, there are two possibilities. 711 00:24:23,930 --> 00:24:25,496 One is because they're dumb 712 00:24:25,565 --> 00:24:28,365 and didn't even realize that it wasn't actually Dee. 713 00:24:28,434 --> 00:24:30,901 They just posted it to make the page feel more real. 714 00:24:30,970 --> 00:24:33,170 Or whoever's behind 715 00:24:33,239 --> 00:24:35,306 the fake Dee Pimpin page 716 00:24:35,374 --> 00:24:38,843 is or knows that artist 717 00:24:38,911 --> 00:24:40,911 and clearly realized that 718 00:24:40,980 --> 00:24:44,415 by pretending to be Dee or to make music with Dee, 719 00:24:44,484 --> 00:24:47,751 they could get a lot of fans and followers and views 720 00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:49,453 and potentially make some money. 721 00:24:49,522 --> 00:24:51,322 - Yeah, it gotta have something to do with it. 722 00:24:51,390 --> 00:24:52,423 - But I don't know. 723 00:24:52,492 --> 00:24:54,625 Dee, you have made enemies. 724 00:24:54,694 --> 00:24:56,260 People are coming for you, 725 00:24:56,329 --> 00:24:58,496 and they have been for years. 726 00:24:58,564 --> 00:25:00,364 - I ain't think of that. But you right. 727 00:25:00,433 --> 00:25:02,366 - If this person is trying 728 00:25:02,435 --> 00:25:04,335 to get back at you for something, Dee, 729 00:25:04,403 --> 00:25:06,237 why drag Imari into it? 730 00:25:06,305 --> 00:25:07,404 - That's what I'm saying. 731 00:25:07,473 --> 00:25:09,039 - Well, and Imari, I mean, you're-- 732 00:25:09,108 --> 00:25:11,509 you've become really good friends with this person. 733 00:25:11,577 --> 00:25:13,477 - Yeah. - And to some extent, Imari, 734 00:25:13,546 --> 00:25:16,180 they've been encouraging, you know, and like, supportive. 735 00:25:16,249 --> 00:25:18,282 - Definitely. 100% encouraging 736 00:25:18,351 --> 00:25:20,417 all of my endeavors. 737 00:25:20,486 --> 00:25:24,288 - Whoever it is isn't all bad. 738 00:25:24,357 --> 00:25:26,357 [tense music] 739 00:25:26,425 --> 00:25:28,058 Dee. - Mm-hmm? 740 00:25:28,127 --> 00:25:29,493 - It's not you, is it? 741 00:25:29,562 --> 00:25:31,195 - Yeah. Stop playing with me. 742 00:25:31,264 --> 00:25:32,363 Come on. 743 00:25:32,431 --> 00:25:33,998 - You're telling us the truth? 744 00:25:34,066 --> 00:25:35,232 - Definitely, definitely. 745 00:25:35,301 --> 00:25:36,800 - Because it's definitely not you. 746 00:25:36,869 --> 00:25:38,836 - [laughs] 747 00:25:38,905 --> 00:25:41,272 - All right. All right, so look. 748 00:25:41,340 --> 00:25:42,273 We gotta figure out what we wanna do. 749 00:25:42,341 --> 00:25:43,774 I think we could just call. 750 00:25:43,843 --> 00:25:46,710 I mean, I don't--have you ever just tried calling, Imari? 751 00:25:46,779 --> 00:25:50,281 - Yeah, and it rang, rang, rang, voicemail. 752 00:25:50,349 --> 00:25:51,982 - But they know your number. 753 00:25:52,051 --> 00:25:53,417 They wouldn't know our number. 754 00:25:53,486 --> 00:25:55,986 - I'm gonna call. You guys good with that? 755 00:25:57,023 --> 00:25:58,222 - They won't be able to hear us, guys, 756 00:25:58,291 --> 00:25:59,256 but Nev will be able to hear us. 757 00:25:59,325 --> 00:26:00,357 - Right, so you can talk to me. 758 00:26:00,426 --> 00:26:01,659 [line trilling] 759 00:26:01,727 --> 00:26:04,128 And you can hear them, but they don't hear you. 760 00:26:04,196 --> 00:26:06,830 [tense music] 761 00:26:06,899 --> 00:26:08,799 [whispers] Who should I ask for? 762 00:26:08,868 --> 00:26:09,900 ♪ ♪ 763 00:26:09,969 --> 00:26:11,001 - [whispers] Dee. 764 00:26:12,738 --> 00:26:13,504 - Hey. 765 00:26:13,573 --> 00:26:14,738 [dramatic music] 766 00:26:14,807 --> 00:26:15,739 How you doing? 767 00:26:17,143 --> 00:26:18,842 [line trilling] 768 00:26:18,911 --> 00:26:20,678 - [whispers] Who should I ask for? 769 00:26:20,746 --> 00:26:21,712 [tense music] 770 00:26:21,781 --> 00:26:23,047 - [whispers] Dee? 771 00:26:24,850 --> 00:26:25,616 - Hey. 772 00:26:25,685 --> 00:26:26,617 ♪ ♪ 773 00:26:26,686 --> 00:26:28,152 How you doing? 774 00:26:30,089 --> 00:26:31,622 - I am, uh, I'm good. 775 00:26:31,691 --> 00:26:34,592 Um, my name is Nev. - [laughs] 776 00:26:34,660 --> 00:26:36,293 - And I'm on the show, "Catfish." 777 00:26:36,362 --> 00:26:37,361 Do you know about that show? 778 00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:38,796 [line disconnects] 779 00:26:38,864 --> 00:26:40,598 Oh. - [Dee laughs] 780 00:26:40,666 --> 00:26:42,166 - That might've been it. - Mother[bleep]. 781 00:26:42,234 --> 00:26:43,867 - [cackling] - No way. 782 00:26:43,936 --> 00:26:45,536 - Mm-hmm. - She hung up. 783 00:26:45,605 --> 00:26:47,605 - Maybe it's not Eric Johnson. 784 00:26:47,673 --> 00:26:50,474 But it can't also be KeeZY or Jaylenz, 785 00:26:50,543 --> 00:26:51,976 so who the [bleep] was that? 786 00:26:52,044 --> 00:26:53,944 - It sounded like a younger woman. 787 00:26:54,013 --> 00:26:55,446 - Yeah. That did sound like it. 788 00:26:55,514 --> 00:26:57,047 - She didn't even disguise her voice. 789 00:26:58,150 --> 00:27:01,352 - I'm gonna send her a text message right now 790 00:27:01,420 --> 00:27:04,455 with a picture of all of us. 791 00:27:04,523 --> 00:27:06,023 [camera shutter snaps] 792 00:27:06,092 --> 00:27:07,291 All right. 793 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:08,425 - [laughing] - Ah, yeah. 794 00:27:08,494 --> 00:27:09,627 - Dee's face. 795 00:27:09,695 --> 00:27:11,328 - Like, yeah. Stop playing with me. 796 00:27:11,397 --> 00:27:12,863 - This is good. - Come on. 797 00:27:12,932 --> 00:27:13,964 - "Hey, we're making an episode of "Catfish" now 798 00:27:14,033 --> 00:27:15,466 "and would love to speak with you. 799 00:27:15,534 --> 00:27:16,967 "Obviously we know you're not the real Dee Pimpin, 800 00:27:17,036 --> 00:27:18,602 "but Imari still wants to know who you are, 801 00:27:18,671 --> 00:27:19,803 "and Dee is very curious about why 802 00:27:19,872 --> 00:27:21,405 "you've been impersonating her for so long. 803 00:27:21,474 --> 00:27:24,408 "We're all ears and excited to hear back from you. 804 00:27:24,477 --> 00:27:25,576 Thanks." 805 00:27:25,645 --> 00:27:28,012 - Yeah. Let it be known. 806 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,981 - Well, Dee, at least we know it's definitely not you. 807 00:27:31,050 --> 00:27:32,416 - Yay yay. 808 00:27:32,485 --> 00:27:35,185 - Obviously, whoever this girl is, 809 00:27:35,254 --> 00:27:36,520 she has my number. 810 00:27:36,589 --> 00:27:38,055 We sent her that message. 811 00:27:38,124 --> 00:27:40,724 So let's all just sit tight and regroup in the morning. 812 00:27:40,793 --> 00:27:41,825 - All right, gang. 813 00:27:41,894 --> 00:27:43,227 - See ya. - See y'all in a minute. 814 00:27:43,295 --> 00:27:45,729 [dramatic music] 815 00:27:46,198 --> 00:27:47,364 [exciting hip-hop music] 816 00:27:47,433 --> 00:27:48,499 - Okay. 817 00:27:48,567 --> 00:27:51,535 Check my ph--Oh!-ne. 818 00:27:51,604 --> 00:27:53,037 I just got a text here 819 00:27:53,105 --> 00:27:55,139 from our catfish. 820 00:27:55,207 --> 00:27:58,308 So let me--let me get Kamie on the old chat, 821 00:27:58,377 --> 00:27:59,777 see what she's doing. 822 00:27:59,845 --> 00:28:01,578 Got a bite. 823 00:28:01,647 --> 00:28:07,618 ♪ ♪ 824 00:28:07,687 --> 00:28:08,952 - I thought you were never gonna get here. 825 00:28:09,021 --> 00:28:10,087 - Heyo. Hold on; I have an update. 826 00:28:11,290 --> 00:28:14,658 In response to the text we sent to the fake Dee.. 827 00:28:14,727 --> 00:28:16,927 Her response was, 828 00:28:16,996 --> 00:28:19,363 "Dee is in that screenshot. 829 00:28:19,432 --> 00:28:21,398 "Is she pissed? 830 00:28:21,467 --> 00:28:22,900 What is she gonna do?" 831 00:28:22,968 --> 00:28:24,301 - Why don't you Zoom in 832 00:28:24,370 --> 00:28:26,437 and see for yourself, ma'am? 833 00:28:26,505 --> 00:28:28,839 - I think it's understandable that they're concerned 834 00:28:28,908 --> 00:28:31,442 that, like, Dee might be upset. 835 00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:32,743 - Well, what do you expect? 836 00:28:32,812 --> 00:28:34,111 - No, of course. - Like, what are afraid for? 837 00:28:34,180 --> 00:28:36,346 - Of course. - A virtual rumble? 838 00:28:36,415 --> 00:28:39,149 - Well, what if this person is someone that Dee knows? 839 00:28:39,218 --> 00:28:41,752 - It could be one of the girls from back in the day 840 00:28:41,821 --> 00:28:43,554 when Dee was up to no good. 841 00:28:43,622 --> 00:28:45,189 - All right. So I'm gonna reply. 842 00:28:45,257 --> 00:28:46,590 I'm gonna say, "Hey. 843 00:28:46,659 --> 00:28:48,692 "Thanks for getting back to me. 844 00:28:48,761 --> 00:28:50,327 "Yes, haha. 845 00:28:50,396 --> 00:28:53,697 "Dee is in the screenshot. 846 00:28:53,766 --> 00:28:56,567 But don't worry." 847 00:28:56,635 --> 00:28:58,969 - She's not as mad as she looks. 848 00:28:59,038 --> 00:29:03,841 - "Of course, Imari is also a bit hurt 849 00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:05,943 "that you lied to her. 850 00:29:06,011 --> 00:29:09,513 "We would all love to hear 851 00:29:09,582 --> 00:29:11,982 your side of the story." 852 00:29:12,051 --> 00:29:13,250 All right. 853 00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:15,018 Sent. 854 00:29:15,087 --> 00:29:18,355 - I think we should check on Imari especially 855 00:29:18,424 --> 00:29:21,625 because she did seem kind of bummed out yesterday. 856 00:29:21,694 --> 00:29:23,494 She said they were talking every single day. 857 00:29:23,562 --> 00:29:24,895 Like, that's-- - Right. 858 00:29:24,964 --> 00:29:26,163 - That's a friendship. 859 00:29:26,232 --> 00:29:28,065 That's a long time to be talking to someone. 860 00:29:28,134 --> 00:29:30,801 - "Come join us in the Zoom." 861 00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:32,369 ♪ ♪ 862 00:29:32,438 --> 00:29:34,204 [doorbell chimes] 863 00:29:34,273 --> 00:29:36,039 - Hello. - Hey. 864 00:29:36,108 --> 00:29:37,975 What does your tattoo say? 865 00:29:38,043 --> 00:29:39,576 - Whatever you believe, you become. 866 00:29:39,645 --> 00:29:40,911 - Amen. 867 00:29:40,980 --> 00:29:43,013 - What do you believe, Imari? 868 00:29:43,082 --> 00:29:44,615 - I mean, I felt better yesterday 869 00:29:44,683 --> 00:29:46,350 about the entire situation 870 00:29:46,418 --> 00:29:48,585 just because I did actually get to meet Dee, 871 00:29:48,654 --> 00:29:49,753 and she was very sweet. 872 00:29:49,822 --> 00:29:51,355 But when I woke up this morning, 873 00:29:51,423 --> 00:29:53,390 I just--I feel like 874 00:29:53,459 --> 00:29:55,092 I really just wanna know who this person is 875 00:29:55,161 --> 00:29:56,894 because I really trusted them, 876 00:29:56,962 --> 00:29:59,163 and I don't trust a lot of people with my music. 877 00:29:59,231 --> 00:30:00,597 They were really encouraging me, 878 00:30:00,666 --> 00:30:02,966 which is something I don't get a lot 879 00:30:03,035 --> 00:30:04,968 from the people around me, especially where I live. 880 00:30:05,037 --> 00:30:08,205 Like, who knows what this person's motives are? 881 00:30:08,274 --> 00:30:10,607 - Like, why ask you to send things? 882 00:30:10,676 --> 00:30:13,143 Is it just to try to, you know, 883 00:30:13,212 --> 00:30:15,579 make their story seem more believable, 884 00:30:15,648 --> 00:30:18,916 or are they doing something shady with it? 885 00:30:18,984 --> 00:30:20,984 - So many questions. So many unanswered questions. 886 00:30:21,053 --> 00:30:22,519 - We do have one thing to report. 887 00:30:22,588 --> 00:30:25,322 Should we get Dee on and tell both of you, I guess? 888 00:30:25,391 --> 00:30:27,691 - Double trouble. Two birds, one stone. 889 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:28,892 [suspenseful music] 890 00:30:28,961 --> 00:30:32,696 - "Got a little update." 891 00:30:32,765 --> 00:30:34,798 [doorbell chimes] 892 00:30:34,867 --> 00:30:35,833 - Hey, Dee. - What's up? 893 00:30:35,901 --> 00:30:38,068 - Hey. - What up, gang? 894 00:30:38,137 --> 00:30:39,903 How y'all doing today? - [laughs] 895 00:30:39,972 --> 00:30:41,905 - We got some good news today, don't we? 896 00:30:41,974 --> 00:30:44,708 - Well, we got a little news. 897 00:30:44,777 --> 00:30:45,809 - Oh, man. Okay. 898 00:30:45,878 --> 00:30:47,678 - Now that I have you both here, 899 00:30:47,746 --> 00:30:49,880 in response to the photo that we sent 900 00:30:49,949 --> 00:30:51,682 with all of you guys on the screen 901 00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:53,383 and that long message I wrote, 902 00:30:53,452 --> 00:30:54,818 she wrote back, 903 00:30:54,887 --> 00:30:57,387 "Dee is in that screenshot... 904 00:30:57,456 --> 00:30:58,622 "is she pissed? 905 00:30:58,691 --> 00:31:00,424 What is she gonna do?" 906 00:31:01,660 --> 00:31:03,393 - This was, yeah, just, like, -20 minutes ago,? 907 00:31:03,462 --> 00:31:04,761 - What do they mean, "Dee looks pissed. 908 00:31:04,830 --> 00:31:06,296 What is she gonna do?" What do you think? 909 00:31:06,365 --> 00:31:08,298 She's gonna headbutt you through the Zoom. 910 00:31:08,367 --> 00:31:09,967 - I don't know. For real, I would. 911 00:31:10,035 --> 00:31:11,768 - [laughing] - Don't play with me. 912 00:31:11,837 --> 00:31:12,870 [laughter] 913 00:31:12,938 --> 00:31:14,638 - They care how you feel, you know? 914 00:31:14,707 --> 00:31:15,739 - Yeah. - Mm-hmm. 915 00:31:15,808 --> 00:31:17,908 - They care about what you think, 916 00:31:17,977 --> 00:31:21,111 so maybe it's not a complete stranger. 917 00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:23,013 You know what I mean? - Mm. 918 00:31:23,082 --> 00:31:25,616 You have a point there. 919 00:31:25,684 --> 00:31:26,817 If it's somebody around me 920 00:31:26,886 --> 00:31:27,985 that's actually trying to do this, 921 00:31:28,053 --> 00:31:30,287 then--yeah, I don't know how I would feel. 922 00:31:30,356 --> 00:31:32,656 - I would be mad as hell. [laughs] 923 00:31:32,725 --> 00:31:34,224 - I mean, I wanna be mad. 924 00:31:34,293 --> 00:31:36,159 It's like I need to know who it is first. 925 00:31:36,228 --> 00:31:38,161 I need to see them, read they energy 926 00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:40,597 to figure out if I can even be mad at them or not, you know? 927 00:31:40,666 --> 00:31:44,334 - They wrote, "If this is my chance to see Imari, 928 00:31:44,403 --> 00:31:46,737 then I'm not going to blow it." 929 00:31:46,805 --> 00:31:47,938 - Interesting. Interesting. 930 00:31:48,007 --> 00:31:50,073 - What about Dee? 931 00:31:50,142 --> 00:31:52,442 What about if this is my chance to apologize? 932 00:31:53,512 --> 00:31:55,078 - Let's stick with the Imari angle. 933 00:31:55,147 --> 00:31:56,079 That seems to be what she cares about. 934 00:31:56,148 --> 00:31:57,481 - [laughs] Is she pissed? 935 00:31:57,549 --> 00:31:58,916 - "Yeah." - I'm gonna make it happen. 936 00:31:58,984 --> 00:32:02,619 - "This is definitely your best 937 00:32:02,688 --> 00:32:05,322 and last chance." 938 00:32:05,391 --> 00:32:06,924 - "Obviously you care about her a lot, 939 00:32:06,992 --> 00:32:08,392 and I know she feels that you two have become really close." 940 00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:10,160 Yeah. I think that's perfect. 941 00:32:10,229 --> 00:32:12,029 - Mm-hmm. - All right. 942 00:32:12,097 --> 00:32:14,831 - That's good for me. 943 00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:16,066 - And Imari, you said there was 944 00:32:16,135 --> 00:32:17,801 never anything romantic between you? 945 00:32:17,870 --> 00:32:19,069 - No. 946 00:32:19,138 --> 00:32:20,570 - Oh. - Fast. 947 00:32:20,639 --> 00:32:22,472 - So hold on. 948 00:32:22,541 --> 00:32:25,342 So she just wrote back and said, "How do we do this?" 949 00:32:25,411 --> 00:32:27,878 So I'm gonna just send her the Zoom link. 950 00:32:27,947 --> 00:32:29,012 - Okay. So it's a girl? 951 00:32:29,081 --> 00:32:30,047 - I don't know. 952 00:32:30,115 --> 00:32:32,482 [dramatic music] 953 00:32:32,551 --> 00:32:34,885 Okay. - Now we wait. 954 00:32:34,954 --> 00:32:37,054 - I'm ready. 955 00:32:37,122 --> 00:32:39,489 Please don't let it be somebody that's close to me. 956 00:32:39,558 --> 00:32:41,325 - You know what I just thought about? 957 00:32:41,393 --> 00:32:44,895 We did talk to Tony before we reached out to this person. 958 00:32:44,964 --> 00:32:48,065 What if Tony put his daughter or girlfriend 959 00:32:48,133 --> 00:32:49,499 or somebody on the phone 960 00:32:49,568 --> 00:32:51,335 because he knew what number we were calling from? 961 00:32:53,505 --> 00:32:54,604 ♪ ♪ 962 00:32:54,673 --> 00:32:55,939 [doorbell chimes] 963 00:32:57,843 --> 00:32:59,142 - So I'm gonna just send her the Zoom link. 964 00:32:59,211 --> 00:33:02,179 [tense music] 965 00:33:02,247 --> 00:33:03,480 ♪ ♪ 966 00:33:03,549 --> 00:33:04,715 Okay. 967 00:33:04,783 --> 00:33:07,417 - Please don't let it be somebody that's close to me. 968 00:33:08,287 --> 00:33:09,419 [doorbell chimes] 969 00:33:09,488 --> 00:33:12,589 [suspenseful music] 970 00:33:12,658 --> 00:33:14,057 ♪ ♪ 971 00:33:14,126 --> 00:33:15,258 - What's going on? 972 00:33:15,327 --> 00:33:16,360 - Hey. What's up? 973 00:33:16,428 --> 00:33:17,561 - Hi. - [laughs] 974 00:33:17,629 --> 00:33:19,029 - Your name just comes up as K. 975 00:33:19,098 --> 00:33:20,297 What should we call you? 976 00:33:20,366 --> 00:33:21,965 - KeeZY. My name is KeeZY. 977 00:33:22,034 --> 00:33:23,734 - KeeZY! - Yeah. 978 00:33:23,802 --> 00:33:25,936 - KeeZY. The fake. 979 00:33:26,005 --> 00:33:27,804 - So you're the one. 980 00:33:27,873 --> 00:33:30,007 - You're one of the artists that-- 981 00:33:30,075 --> 00:33:31,575 the page posted that song. 982 00:33:31,643 --> 00:33:32,709 - Yeah. 983 00:33:32,778 --> 00:33:34,344 - If you wanna kind of just tell us your sort 984 00:33:34,413 --> 00:33:35,612 of side of the story here 985 00:33:35,681 --> 00:33:38,415 and how we all got into this-- this mess. 986 00:33:38,484 --> 00:33:41,618 - Well, way back seven years ago, 987 00:33:41,687 --> 00:33:44,921 the moment Dee walked out on her episode 988 00:33:44,990 --> 00:33:46,690 and said she was a rapper, 989 00:33:46,759 --> 00:33:48,959 I noticed that she didn't have any pages. 990 00:33:49,028 --> 00:33:51,361 And I saw an opportunity. 991 00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:53,930 So I made 'em all right then and there 992 00:33:53,999 --> 00:33:56,566 and kind of took it to 100. 993 00:33:56,635 --> 00:33:58,835 - That crazy. Wow. 994 00:33:58,904 --> 00:34:01,405 - Like, a lot of people were messaging 995 00:34:01,473 --> 00:34:05,142 because they like Dee, like, attracted to her. 996 00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:07,010 I was like, "Hey, thanks. Blah, blah. 997 00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:08,211 Check my brother out." 998 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,780 And sent links to my stuff. 999 00:34:09,848 --> 00:34:11,081 - Damn! Damn. 1000 00:34:11,150 --> 00:34:13,450 - First, like, we weren't really taking it that serious. 1001 00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:15,452 I was just using it to post stuff. 1002 00:34:15,521 --> 00:34:17,521 And then we started making songs, 1003 00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:19,456 and I'm a vocal engineer. 1004 00:34:19,525 --> 00:34:21,258 So I would record my part, 1005 00:34:21,326 --> 00:34:22,759 and Jaylenz would record his, 1006 00:34:22,828 --> 00:34:25,695 and I'd record another part, and make it sound like a girl. 1007 00:34:25,764 --> 00:34:28,298 - So it was you doing Dee's voice? 1008 00:34:28,367 --> 00:34:29,933 - Yeah. - [bleep]. 1009 00:34:30,002 --> 00:34:32,436 - I mean, we were doing some outrageous stuff. 1010 00:34:32,504 --> 00:34:34,371 We were creating flyers 1011 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,705 and traveling around the country 1012 00:34:35,774 --> 00:34:37,908 saying that KeeZY, Dee Pimpin, and Jaylenz 1013 00:34:37,976 --> 00:34:40,544 are gonna be in Myrtle Beach at this club 1014 00:34:40,612 --> 00:34:43,380 accompanied by an MTV film crew. 1015 00:34:43,449 --> 00:34:44,648 - I seen that. - And yeah. 1016 00:34:44,716 --> 00:34:46,283 And it would be the videographer. 1017 00:34:46,351 --> 00:34:47,918 And he'd walk around with, like, 1018 00:34:47,986 --> 00:34:49,386 an MTV film crew shirt 1019 00:34:49,455 --> 00:34:51,188 and an MTV film crew badge 1020 00:34:51,256 --> 00:34:52,722 that say "Film Crew" on the back. 1021 00:34:52,791 --> 00:34:54,991 He had all the equipment. He'd follow us around. 1022 00:34:55,060 --> 00:34:57,761 So there was, like, crowds of people following us. 1023 00:35:01,166 --> 00:35:02,566 - Oh, hell nah. 1024 00:35:02,634 --> 00:35:04,935 - You actually met people? 1025 00:35:06,972 --> 00:35:08,338 ♪ ♪ 1026 00:35:08,407 --> 00:35:10,273 - So you have your own following now, I mean? 1027 00:35:10,342 --> 00:35:11,708 - It kinda gave me a spark, 1028 00:35:11,777 --> 00:35:14,077 the boost I needed knowledge-wise 1029 00:35:14,146 --> 00:35:15,812 and fanbase-wise. 1030 00:35:15,881 --> 00:35:16,847 - Damn. 1031 00:35:17,916 --> 00:35:20,016 to actually connect - Awith the real Dee?ink 1032 00:35:20,085 --> 00:35:21,451 - I'm just gonna be honest. 1033 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,787 I didn't see a need to reach out to the real you. 1034 00:35:25,090 --> 00:35:27,491 - Because what was the point if I ran social media? 1035 00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:29,025 - It's my name, bro. 1036 00:35:29,094 --> 00:35:31,495 It's not even about the page. It's my name. 1037 00:35:31,563 --> 00:35:33,230 I want my name-- I can't even use my name 1038 00:35:33,298 --> 00:35:35,198 to create another page on Facebook. 1039 00:35:35,267 --> 00:35:36,199 Facebook thought it was actually me 1040 00:35:36,268 --> 00:35:37,534 because of the following. 1041 00:35:37,603 --> 00:35:39,002 I been missing out on a lot of opportunities 1042 00:35:39,071 --> 00:35:40,837 just because people don't really know how to find me. 1043 00:35:40,906 --> 00:35:43,340 Instead, they clicking on the page that you created. 1044 00:35:43,408 --> 00:35:45,008 - At the end of the day, 1045 00:35:45,077 --> 00:35:47,677 there's no way I could've missed that opportunity. 1046 00:35:47,746 --> 00:35:50,614 Dee was just a piece of it, like, 1047 00:35:50,682 --> 00:35:52,983 I look at the internet as a playground. 1048 00:35:53,051 --> 00:35:54,851 Just taking opportunities 1049 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,853 and using 'em to your advantage. 1050 00:35:56,922 --> 00:35:58,021 - Sure. 1051 00:35:58,090 --> 00:35:59,856 But you--in your conversations with Imari, 1052 00:35:59,925 --> 00:36:01,625 had encouraged her to come to Atlanta 1053 00:36:01,693 --> 00:36:04,394 and to meet youpotentially wor. 1054 00:36:04,463 --> 00:36:06,263 - I really did plan on meeting with her. 1055 00:36:06,331 --> 00:36:08,598 - How were you gonna explain yourself 1056 00:36:08,667 --> 00:36:10,066 if she did come to Atlanta? 1057 00:36:10,135 --> 00:36:11,601 - I was just going with the flow. 1058 00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:14,638 I really did plan on revealing it in person. 1059 00:36:15,741 --> 00:36:17,674 - I mean, you are a grown-ass man. 1060 00:36:17,743 --> 00:36:19,176 - Right. - And, like, 1061 00:36:19,244 --> 00:36:21,311 that would have potentially put her 1062 00:36:21,380 --> 00:36:24,848 in a very, very uncomfortable situation. 1063 00:36:24,917 --> 00:36:26,816 - Yeah-- - So how many 1064 00:36:26,885 --> 00:36:28,752 other Imaris are there? 1065 00:36:28,820 --> 00:36:31,221 - There aren't any other Imaris. 1066 00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:34,558 She's genuine, 1067 00:36:34,626 --> 00:36:36,359 enthusiastic, 1068 00:36:36,428 --> 00:36:38,762 and she makes good music on top of that. 1069 00:36:38,830 --> 00:36:42,065 There's nobody else I'm having those conversations with. 1070 00:36:42,134 --> 00:36:45,602 - So what you wanted to gain 1071 00:36:45,671 --> 00:36:48,705 from me was just a collab? 1072 00:36:48,774 --> 00:36:50,907 - A collab and, like, the whole package-- 1073 00:36:50,976 --> 00:36:52,209 the video, everything. 1074 00:36:52,277 --> 00:36:54,177 Like, it wasn't just gonna be a collab. 1075 00:36:54,246 --> 00:36:56,046 - To me, it just doesn't feel like 1076 00:36:56,114 --> 00:36:58,949 it's just about wanting to work together. 1077 00:36:59,017 --> 00:37:00,584 I'm assuming you liked what you saw, 1078 00:37:00,652 --> 00:37:02,719 so that's why you responded to her? 1079 00:37:02,788 --> 00:37:04,387 - I'm glad you said it. 1080 00:37:04,456 --> 00:37:05,455 - [scoffs] 1081 00:37:05,524 --> 00:37:07,524 - Do you have something you want to say? 1082 00:37:07,593 --> 00:37:09,859 - [laughing] 1083 00:37:09,928 --> 00:37:12,329 - Aw, man. I'm sorry. 1084 00:37:12,397 --> 00:37:14,297 I'm definitely sorry to both of y'all. 1085 00:37:14,366 --> 00:37:15,532 - Are you really? - Yeah. 1086 00:37:15,601 --> 00:37:17,534 Because I really do wanna work with you. 1087 00:37:17,603 --> 00:37:20,036 And I wouldn't even have carried on if I didn't. 1088 00:37:20,906 --> 00:37:22,839 The friendship is valuable too. 1089 00:37:22,908 --> 00:37:24,007 You know what I mean? 1090 00:37:24,076 --> 00:37:26,142 I'm not pushing for it, of course, 1091 00:37:26,211 --> 00:37:29,546 because, like, how she probably perceives me now. 1092 00:37:29,615 --> 00:37:30,914 But like I said, 1093 00:37:30,983 --> 00:37:34,084 what was on my mind was making a song, collaborate. 1094 00:37:34,152 --> 00:37:36,253 - So it was all about the clout? 1095 00:37:36,321 --> 00:37:37,887 - Even to this day. To this day? 1096 00:37:37,956 --> 00:37:39,155 - It's all about the opportunity. 1097 00:37:39,224 --> 00:37:41,291 - The Dee Pimpin page has always been about clout. 1098 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,560 It was never about manipulating anybody 1099 00:37:43,629 --> 00:37:44,861 or relationships. 1100 00:37:44,930 --> 00:37:46,963 - Is being here right now about doing the right thing 1101 00:37:47,032 --> 00:37:48,398 or is it about the clout still? 1102 00:37:48,467 --> 00:37:51,268 - It's about doing the right thing. 1103 00:37:51,336 --> 00:37:54,070 I understand it was wrong, but I mean, 1104 00:37:54,139 --> 00:37:56,439 like I said, I had to do what I had to do. 1105 00:37:56,508 --> 00:37:59,376 And if I went back-- back in time, 1106 00:37:59,444 --> 00:38:01,044 I would probably still do it. 1107 00:38:01,113 --> 00:38:02,646 - Who answered the phone? 1108 00:38:02,714 --> 00:38:05,015 Was that your girl voice? Who was that? 1109 00:38:05,083 --> 00:38:07,450 - [laughs] No, that was my stylist. 1110 00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:10,453 And this is my business line, so I was with her. 1111 00:38:10,522 --> 00:38:11,454 - Mm. 1112 00:38:11,523 --> 00:38:14,090 - So... - I feel used. 1113 00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:16,026 I think that it's time 1114 00:38:16,094 --> 00:38:18,528 for another transfer of clout. 1115 00:38:18,597 --> 00:38:20,997 I think we can just do a clout triangle. 1116 00:38:21,066 --> 00:38:22,165 How about that? [both laugh] 1117 00:38:22,234 --> 00:38:23,667 Give me some of yours. - Here we go. 1118 00:38:23,735 --> 00:38:24,934 Yes. 1119 00:38:25,003 --> 00:38:26,503 - Give me some of yours. - I love this. 1120 00:38:26,571 --> 00:38:27,404 - That's true. 1121 00:38:27,472 --> 00:38:28,405 KeeZY, I mean, you've obviously 1122 00:38:28,473 --> 00:38:30,373 got a lot of followers now. 1123 00:38:30,442 --> 00:38:32,709 I mean, you could direct people to Dee's real music, 1124 00:38:32,778 --> 00:38:34,711 and you could direct people to Imari's music. 1125 00:38:34,780 --> 00:38:36,713 - I think it's the least you can do at this point. 1126 00:38:36,782 --> 00:38:38,648 - [laughs] Whatever you want me to do. 1127 00:38:38,717 --> 00:38:40,583 - I knew that fire was in there, bitch. 1128 00:38:40,652 --> 00:38:42,919 I knew it was there. - Yes, of course. 1129 00:38:42,988 --> 00:38:45,689 - I'm not gonna be the only one left high and dry now. 1130 00:38:45,757 --> 00:38:47,223 Wait a minute. - Great. 1131 00:38:47,292 --> 00:38:48,291 - That's not how this is gonna go at all. 1132 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,127 - [laughs] - Exactly. 1133 00:38:51,196 --> 00:38:53,096 - Did you say that you also engineer? 1134 00:38:53,165 --> 00:38:54,297 - Man, I don't-- - And he do video too. 1135 00:38:54,366 --> 00:38:55,632 I didn't forget. He said video. 1136 00:38:55,701 --> 00:38:57,167 - He's a videographer. - I like videos. 1137 00:38:57,235 --> 00:38:58,735 - I'm open or whatever. 1138 00:38:58,804 --> 00:39:00,036 - Reparations. 1139 00:39:00,105 --> 00:39:02,038 - I think that's a good idea. - Yep. 1140 00:39:02,107 --> 00:39:04,374 - Now look--there are a lot of people who will say, like, 1141 00:39:04,443 --> 00:39:06,109 you know, do whatever you gotta do 1142 00:39:06,178 --> 00:39:08,011 to be successful and promote yourself 1143 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,479 and all that. 1144 00:39:09,548 --> 00:39:11,514 But at the same time, we have to consider that... 1145 00:39:11,583 --> 00:39:13,650 - There's a right way to go about things. 1146 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,118 And other people were involved. - Right. 1147 00:39:15,187 --> 00:39:17,053 - I was collateral. Dee was collateral. 1148 00:39:17,122 --> 00:39:19,689 That's not fair. - Right. 1149 00:39:19,758 --> 00:39:20,824 - I know it's wrong. 1150 00:39:20,892 --> 00:39:21,991 - All right, well look. 1151 00:39:22,060 --> 00:39:23,326 I feel like it's as close to a happy ending 1152 00:39:23,395 --> 00:39:24,494 as we're gonna get. 1153 00:39:24,563 --> 00:39:26,096 For me, it seems pretty obvious 1154 00:39:26,164 --> 00:39:29,065 that the page should belong to Dee. 1155 00:39:29,134 --> 00:39:32,302 She should have the option to do with it what she wishes. 1156 00:39:32,371 --> 00:39:34,971 - You could use it, like, it could benefit you. 1157 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,107 - Nah, I want it. I definitely--I want it. 1158 00:39:37,175 --> 00:39:38,808 - I always think you should take any music 1159 00:39:38,877 --> 00:39:41,945 that you've produced where you've claimed Dee was on it 1160 00:39:42,013 --> 00:39:44,114 off of the internet. - Yeah. 1161 00:39:44,182 --> 00:39:46,316 - Imari knows who she's been talking to. 1162 00:39:46,385 --> 00:39:49,819 And hopefully, you do really sort of honor your promise 1163 00:39:49,888 --> 00:39:51,187 to help her with some music 1164 00:39:51,256 --> 00:39:53,390 and give her a jumpstart and-- 1165 00:39:53,458 --> 00:39:54,457 - That was my goal from the jump. 1166 00:39:54,526 --> 00:39:55,325 - Right. 1167 00:39:55,394 --> 00:39:56,459 And obviously, Dee, 1168 00:39:56,528 --> 00:39:58,128 you got your page finally. 1169 00:39:58,196 --> 00:39:59,829 And you can now 1170 00:39:59,898 --> 00:40:02,098 send people from that page to your Instagram, 1171 00:40:02,167 --> 00:40:04,033 or you could really get into that page 1172 00:40:04,102 --> 00:40:05,402 and maybe even ask KeeZY 1173 00:40:05,470 --> 00:40:07,771 to help to promote yourself, you know? 1174 00:40:07,839 --> 00:40:10,039 - Like I said, I'm down for whatever everybody wants to do. 1175 00:40:10,108 --> 00:40:11,374 - All right. 1176 00:40:11,443 --> 00:40:14,010 - Well, KeeZY, I hope you don't get any more, 1177 00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:15,512 you know, bright ideas 1178 00:40:15,580 --> 00:40:17,514 to seize any more opportunities. 1179 00:40:17,582 --> 00:40:20,850 - It's no need to do that type of stuff anymore but... 1180 00:40:20,919 --> 00:40:22,485 - Dee felt dee-srespected. 1181 00:40:22,554 --> 00:40:25,255 - Yeah, I'm like, that's me. 1182 00:40:25,323 --> 00:40:27,023 - Thanks, guys. - Thank you. 1183 00:40:27,092 --> 00:40:28,324 - All right. - Thank you. 1184 00:40:28,393 --> 00:40:29,426 - Thanks, everybody. - Good luck to everybody. 1185 00:40:29,494 --> 00:40:30,560 - All right, Kamie. See y'all later. 1186 00:40:30,629 --> 00:40:31,528 - Good luck. - All right, thank you. 1187 00:40:31,596 --> 00:40:33,396 - Good luck. - All right. 1188 00:40:33,465 --> 00:40:34,464 - ♪ That's a ride ♪ 1189 00:40:34,533 --> 00:40:36,399 ♪ Keep your--tip-top shape ♪ 1190 00:40:36,468 --> 00:40:37,434 ♪ I'm great ♪ 1191 00:40:37,502 --> 00:40:38,968 ♪ Need Betty not Becky ♪ 1192 00:40:39,037 --> 00:40:40,437 ♪ I want that real cake ♪ 1193 00:40:40,505 --> 00:40:42,172 ♪ Make moves like I'm on skates ♪ 1194 00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:43,606 ♪ Finessing all of my plays ♪ 1195 00:40:43,675 --> 00:40:45,041 ♪ On the block for a few days ♪ 1196 00:40:45,110 --> 00:40:46,443 ♪ And I'm still doper than all 1197 00:40:46,511 --> 00:40:48,478 the HDZ boys that disgraced ♪ 1198 00:40:48,547 --> 00:40:50,547 ♪ Menace, though ♪ 1199 00:40:50,615 --> 00:40:51,948 ♪ Menace, though ♪ 1200 00:40:52,017 --> 00:40:53,316 ♪ ♪ 1201 00:40:56,488 --> 00:40:57,720 - Brian has been talking to Stephanie for a year. 1202 00:40:57,789 --> 00:40:59,923 - If somebody can stimulate my brain and my heart 1203 00:40:59,991 --> 00:41:01,057 just through a phone call, 1204 00:41:01,126 --> 00:41:02,358 imagine what it could be in person. 1205 00:41:02,427 --> 00:41:03,560 - He said she was staying at the hotel. 1206 00:41:03,628 --> 00:41:04,928 - [gasps] - Let's give him a call. 1207 00:41:04,996 --> 00:41:06,863 - When you can't go up to doors and knock on 'em, 1208 00:41:06,932 --> 00:41:09,165 you sure find other ways to be invasive. 1209 00:41:12,804 --> 00:41:14,304 [doorbell rings] - Oh, [bleep].