1 00:00:01,402 --> 00:00:03,469 - Three years ago, Courtney met Chris, 2 00:00:03,537 --> 00:00:05,871 who lived in Turkey, online. 3 00:00:05,940 --> 00:00:08,440 - Oh, I'm in love with him. - Have you sent gifts? 4 00:00:08,509 --> 00:00:12,111 - I've sent maybe around a grand. 5 00:00:12,179 --> 00:00:13,612 - Courtney. 6 00:00:13,681 --> 00:00:16,448 - She only has one picture where he shows his face. 7 00:00:16,517 --> 00:00:18,751 Why is this guy cloaking his identity, 8 00:00:18,819 --> 00:00:20,619 not just from her, but from everyone? 9 00:00:20,688 --> 00:00:23,922 - Oh, my God, I have a message. - I can hear you. 10 00:00:23,991 --> 00:00:25,190 - What is happening? 11 00:00:25,259 --> 00:00:27,359 [dramatic musical sting] 12 00:00:27,428 --> 00:00:30,095 - All right, so let's text our girl. 13 00:00:31,098 --> 00:00:34,767 It's time to get to work. 14 00:00:34,835 --> 00:00:38,037 - Hey, guys, welcome back to my channel. 15 00:00:38,105 --> 00:00:39,538 We're gonna make some coffee. 16 00:00:39,607 --> 00:00:42,007 Watch out, Ayesha Curry. I'm coming for you. 17 00:00:42,076 --> 00:00:44,243 [punchy music] 18 00:00:44,311 --> 00:00:46,912 We're gonna put some more oat milk inside. 19 00:00:46,981 --> 00:00:49,048 Little razzle dazzle. 20 00:00:49,116 --> 00:00:50,983 ♪ ♪ 21 00:00:51,052 --> 00:00:53,052 Some vanilla creamer. 22 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,286 Bloop. 23 00:00:54,355 --> 00:00:55,821 ♪ ♪ 24 00:00:55,890 --> 00:00:58,123 Make sure that you comment, like, and subscribe 25 00:00:58,192 --> 00:01:01,593 to Kamie Catfish Breakfast Tutorials 26 00:01:01,662 --> 00:01:03,128 at AOL.com. 27 00:01:04,932 --> 00:01:06,331 [computer chimes] 28 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,500 - Hello. - Are you finally ready? 29 00:01:08,569 --> 00:01:09,568 Jeez. 30 00:01:09,637 --> 00:01:12,271 - I'm always ready. - Sure you are. 31 00:01:12,339 --> 00:01:14,873 All right, here we go. An email from Courtney. 32 00:01:14,942 --> 00:01:16,208 [soft dramatic music] 33 00:01:16,277 --> 00:01:19,044 "Dear Nev and Kamie, my name is Courtney. 34 00:01:19,113 --> 00:01:24,283 "I'm 22, and I work as a home health aide in Ohio. 35 00:01:24,351 --> 00:01:28,287 "And, well, I guess I might be getting catfished. 36 00:01:28,355 --> 00:01:31,090 Three years ago, I met Chris online." 37 00:01:31,158 --> 00:01:33,025 ♪ ♪ 38 00:01:33,094 --> 00:01:36,462 "I would never have guessed this guy who lived in Turkey 39 00:01:36,530 --> 00:01:39,031 "would turn out to be the love of my life, 40 00:01:39,100 --> 00:01:42,267 but that's exactly what happened." 41 00:01:42,336 --> 00:01:43,669 - If Courtney can get a trip 42 00:01:43,737 --> 00:01:46,472 to Turkey out of this, she should take it. 43 00:01:46,540 --> 00:01:48,607 - "Chris is an artist, he's smart, 44 00:01:48,676 --> 00:01:51,176 "and he has the best taste in music, 45 00:01:51,245 --> 00:01:52,911 "anime, and video games, 46 00:01:52,980 --> 00:01:57,082 but our relationship hasn't exactly been smooth." 47 00:01:57,151 --> 00:01:58,450 ♪ ♪ 48 00:01:58,519 --> 00:02:00,385 "We've broken up and gotten back together 49 00:02:00,454 --> 00:02:03,255 "so many times that I can't even keep track, 50 00:02:03,324 --> 00:02:06,024 "but we started up again this past November, 51 00:02:06,093 --> 00:02:07,893 "and it's more serious this time. 52 00:02:07,962 --> 00:02:09,361 "I thought that would mean 53 00:02:09,430 --> 00:02:11,163 "Chris would start video chatting 54 00:02:11,232 --> 00:02:13,465 "with me, but nothing has changed. 55 00:02:13,534 --> 00:02:15,467 - ♪ It's never enough, never enough ♪ 56 00:02:15,536 --> 00:02:18,270 ♪ Never enough, ooh, doesn't... ♪ 57 00:02:18,339 --> 00:02:20,506 - "I try not to let myself think about the fact 58 00:02:20,574 --> 00:02:23,275 "that Chris could be a catfish, but I've seen your show. 59 00:02:23,344 --> 00:02:25,511 "If Chris is a catfish, 60 00:02:25,579 --> 00:02:27,646 "I'm not sure what that will mean for us, 61 00:02:27,715 --> 00:02:29,515 "but I can't just keep hoping for the best. 62 00:02:29,583 --> 00:02:32,651 "It's time for me to find out who Chris really is. 63 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,419 I hope you can help me. Courtney." 64 00:02:34,488 --> 00:02:35,854 - ♪ Love, love, love ♪ 65 00:02:35,923 --> 00:02:38,891 ♪ What do I got to do to get some love? ♪ 66 00:02:38,959 --> 00:02:40,492 ♪ ♪ 67 00:02:40,561 --> 00:02:42,461 - Wow. - Three years. 68 00:02:42,530 --> 00:02:43,862 Let's text our girl Courtney. 69 00:02:43,931 --> 00:02:45,364 Hey, Courtney. It's Nev. 70 00:02:45,432 --> 00:02:47,099 We just read your email and wanna help. 71 00:02:47,168 --> 00:02:49,368 - I don't want to get false hope 72 00:02:49,436 --> 00:02:52,070 that Chris is real, but he could be real. 73 00:02:52,139 --> 00:02:53,438 He could just be hesitant 74 00:02:53,507 --> 00:02:55,073 about the long-distance relationship, right? 75 00:02:55,142 --> 00:02:56,308 - It's not impossible. 76 00:02:56,377 --> 00:02:57,943 - Maybe he just doesn't like FaceTiming. 77 00:02:58,012 --> 00:02:59,311 I don't know. 78 00:02:59,380 --> 00:03:00,646 - The good news is, her eyes are open enough 79 00:03:00,714 --> 00:03:02,047 to know that something's up. 80 00:03:02,116 --> 00:03:03,282 [computer chimes] 81 00:03:03,350 --> 00:03:05,217 Oh, hi. - Hey. 82 00:03:05,286 --> 00:03:07,619 - Hi, guys. 83 00:03:07,688 --> 00:03:09,755 - Are you freaked out? - Mm-hmm. 84 00:03:09,823 --> 00:03:11,890 - [laughs] 85 00:03:11,959 --> 00:03:13,559 Is it Nev? Be honest. 86 00:03:13,627 --> 00:03:16,094 - I mean, I've always wanted to meet him, 87 00:03:16,163 --> 00:03:18,230 just--I didn't--not like this. 88 00:03:18,299 --> 00:03:20,699 - [chuckles] Well, I'm flattered. 89 00:03:20,768 --> 00:03:22,901 And it's nice to meet you. Where are you in Ohio? 90 00:03:22,970 --> 00:03:25,938 - I'm in Canton. - You're a home health aide. 91 00:03:26,006 --> 00:03:27,005 What does that mean? 92 00:03:27,074 --> 00:03:28,607 - I take care of people 93 00:03:28,676 --> 00:03:31,043 in their homes that are developmentally disabled. 94 00:03:31,111 --> 00:03:32,377 - Wow. 95 00:03:32,446 --> 00:03:35,113 It's a very selfless job. Good for you. 96 00:03:35,182 --> 00:03:36,582 - Yeah. - Thank you. 97 00:03:36,650 --> 00:03:39,451 - Anyway, tell us about Chris. How did you guys meet? 98 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,887 What is going on? - Okay. 99 00:03:41,956 --> 00:03:46,225 Well, I love telling this story because it's very strange. 100 00:03:46,293 --> 00:03:48,994 We met on Facebook 101 00:03:49,063 --> 00:03:51,196 but through roleplay. 102 00:03:51,265 --> 00:03:53,265 - Ooh, fun, okay. 103 00:03:53,334 --> 00:03:55,901 - I was on my roleplay account, 104 00:03:55,970 --> 00:04:00,272 and the person that my character was with 105 00:04:00,341 --> 00:04:03,542 sent Chris's character to try and kill my character, 106 00:04:03,611 --> 00:04:06,612 and it didn't happen. 107 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,681 I ended up telling him that I had feelings for him. 108 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:10,916 [soft dramatic music] 109 00:04:10,985 --> 00:04:13,185 And we ended up in a relationship. 110 00:04:13,254 --> 00:04:14,620 - Wow, all right. 111 00:04:14,688 --> 00:04:16,388 So when you met Chris, it was as his character. 112 00:04:16,457 --> 00:04:17,522 - Yes. 113 00:04:17,591 --> 00:04:20,158 - Eventually, he sent me 114 00:04:20,227 --> 00:04:22,461 a cosplay picture of himself. 115 00:04:22,529 --> 00:04:23,528 That was the only actual picture 116 00:04:23,597 --> 00:04:26,398 I've seen with his face in it. 117 00:04:26,467 --> 00:04:29,568 And the other picture I have, he's wearing a mask. 118 00:04:29,637 --> 00:04:30,669 - Well, wait a second. 119 00:04:30,738 --> 00:04:32,037 You have now been friends with 120 00:04:32,106 --> 00:04:34,406 his Facebook account, right? - Yeah. 121 00:04:34,475 --> 00:04:36,375 - Does he have more photos of himself on there? 122 00:04:36,443 --> 00:04:39,678 - No, it's mostly just his art. 123 00:04:39,747 --> 00:04:42,080 - In three years, you've only seen two pictures of him? 124 00:04:42,149 --> 00:04:43,482 - Mm-hmm. 125 00:04:43,550 --> 00:04:45,183 - You don't even really know what he looks like. 126 00:04:45,252 --> 00:04:48,253 - I know. - Oh, my God. 127 00:04:48,322 --> 00:04:49,388 - Can you show us the one picture 128 00:04:49,456 --> 00:04:51,690 you've seen of him? - I sure can. 129 00:04:52,793 --> 00:04:55,527 He said it was a werewolf cosplay. 130 00:04:55,596 --> 00:04:56,995 - What are you talking about? 131 00:04:57,064 --> 00:04:59,298 There's nothing werewolf about that. 132 00:04:59,366 --> 00:05:00,932 He's not even in a costume. 133 00:05:01,001 --> 00:05:03,201 - [chuckles] 134 00:05:03,270 --> 00:05:06,138 - Did you want to see the mask? - Sure, yeah. 135 00:05:06,206 --> 00:05:08,373 - That's a mask. 136 00:05:08,442 --> 00:05:10,509 - So, Courtney, do you really think 137 00:05:10,577 --> 00:05:13,312 Chris is the guy in that one picture? 138 00:05:13,380 --> 00:05:14,546 - I don't know. 139 00:05:14,615 --> 00:05:17,683 I would like it to be him because it is 140 00:05:17,751 --> 00:05:19,318 a very attractive person that he showed me. 141 00:05:19,386 --> 00:05:20,552 - Sure. 142 00:05:20,621 --> 00:05:22,421 - What do you know about him personally? 143 00:05:22,489 --> 00:05:24,923 - He lives in Izmit, Turkey, with his mom. 144 00:05:24,992 --> 00:05:27,926 He, to my knowledge, is jobless. 145 00:05:27,995 --> 00:05:29,461 He's an artist. 146 00:05:29,530 --> 00:05:31,630 He does portraits, anime characters, 147 00:05:31,699 --> 00:05:33,532 stuff like that. 148 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,267 - How old is Chris? - 22. 149 00:05:35,336 --> 00:05:37,903 - Oh, so he's the same age. What do you like about him? 150 00:05:37,971 --> 00:05:39,571 - He's got amazing music taste. 151 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,073 90% of the bands 152 00:05:41,141 --> 00:05:43,275 I listen to now is because of him. 153 00:05:43,344 --> 00:05:45,544 Same with the animes that we watch. 154 00:05:45,612 --> 00:05:47,979 I didn't get into anime until he introduced me. 155 00:05:48,048 --> 00:05:50,315 Anything that I'm interested in now is because of him-- 156 00:05:50,384 --> 00:05:53,552 90% of my personality basically. 157 00:05:53,620 --> 00:05:55,387 - What? - Wow. 158 00:05:55,456 --> 00:05:57,589 - He's in a completely different country, 159 00:05:57,658 --> 00:05:59,391 has a whole different set of interests, 160 00:05:59,460 --> 00:06:00,692 and, like, that's really cool, 161 00:06:00,761 --> 00:06:04,863 but what is it about him that attracts you? 162 00:06:04,932 --> 00:06:08,333 - It's really hard to explain that. 163 00:06:08,402 --> 00:06:09,534 I'd say it's just 164 00:06:09,603 --> 00:06:11,937 how he makes me feel. - I get it. 165 00:06:12,005 --> 00:06:13,839 The connection that you have is very meaningful. 166 00:06:14,942 --> 00:06:17,442 - Do you guys only talk via Facebook? 167 00:06:17,511 --> 00:06:19,344 - We eventually went to WhatsApp. 168 00:06:19,413 --> 00:06:20,746 - You talk on the phone? 169 00:06:20,814 --> 00:06:23,448 - I've only spoken to him on the phone once. 170 00:06:23,517 --> 00:06:24,916 - What was the vibe? 171 00:06:24,985 --> 00:06:27,386 - It felt like he didn't want to be on the phone. 172 00:06:27,454 --> 00:06:28,987 - Mm. 173 00:06:29,056 --> 00:06:32,090 - It sounded like he would rather be doing something else. 174 00:06:32,159 --> 00:06:34,025 It just didn't last long. 175 00:06:34,094 --> 00:06:37,262 - Was it, like, a distinct male voice? 176 00:06:37,331 --> 00:06:39,564 - To me, yeah, it sounded male. 177 00:06:39,633 --> 00:06:41,199 - And did he have an accent? - Yes. 178 00:06:41,268 --> 00:06:43,835 I've tried asking for more calls, 179 00:06:43,904 --> 00:06:48,039 and he said no. It's really disappointing. 180 00:06:48,108 --> 00:06:50,742 - How can Chris justify not video chatting you 181 00:06:50,811 --> 00:06:52,110 over the last three years? 182 00:06:52,179 --> 00:06:56,014 - He's just always busy, and he's given me excuses 183 00:06:56,083 --> 00:06:59,851 like his laptop's too old and the time difference. 184 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:01,486 - How do you know he's even in Turkey? 185 00:07:01,555 --> 00:07:02,988 - I believe he is. 186 00:07:03,056 --> 00:07:07,092 He's shown me Turkish movies, shows, music. 187 00:07:07,161 --> 00:07:09,561 Did you know that black roses naturally grow there? 188 00:07:09,630 --> 00:07:11,029 - Oh, I didn't know that. 189 00:07:11,098 --> 00:07:14,032 You've really dove headfirst into the culture. 190 00:07:14,101 --> 00:07:17,402 - The horticulture. - [chuckles] 191 00:07:17,471 --> 00:07:19,538 Yeah, ever since I found out that he's from Turkey, 192 00:07:19,606 --> 00:07:20,806 I love Turkey. 193 00:07:20,874 --> 00:07:22,707 A lot of times, I would talk about 194 00:07:22,776 --> 00:07:25,210 wanting to go to Turkey to see him. 195 00:07:25,279 --> 00:07:26,711 So just the idea of, like, 196 00:07:26,780 --> 00:07:30,182 planning that is something that makes me happy, 197 00:07:30,250 --> 00:07:32,317 but I don't want to go if he's not real. 198 00:07:32,386 --> 00:07:33,718 - Right. 199 00:07:33,787 --> 00:07:36,621 - Have you sent him gifts or anything like that? 200 00:07:36,690 --> 00:07:40,325 - Back in 2018, I sent him an Odin bust. 201 00:07:40,394 --> 00:07:41,660 [upbeat music] 202 00:07:41,728 --> 00:07:43,728 - Wait. - It's a mini statue. 203 00:07:43,797 --> 00:07:47,265 - And did he ever say he got this--the bust? 204 00:07:47,334 --> 00:07:49,267 - Oh, yeah, he sent me a picture of it. 205 00:07:49,336 --> 00:07:50,502 - Oh. 206 00:07:50,571 --> 00:07:51,903 - So then--okay, so then it confirms 207 00:07:51,972 --> 00:07:54,172 that he is, in fact, in Turkey. 208 00:07:54,241 --> 00:07:56,708 - Promising. - Wow, okay, interesting. 209 00:07:56,777 --> 00:08:00,712 - And he sent me a gift. That very hoodie right there. 210 00:08:00,781 --> 00:08:02,881 - Is it a special hoodie? - It's his. 211 00:08:02,950 --> 00:08:05,250 - Oh, he sent you his hoodie. - He sent you his hoodie. 212 00:08:05,319 --> 00:08:07,052 - Yes, back in 2018. 213 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,021 - And it came from Turkey? - Yes. 214 00:08:10,090 --> 00:08:13,024 - No money exchanges between the two of you? 215 00:08:13,093 --> 00:08:17,128 - I have sent money to his friend. 216 00:08:17,197 --> 00:08:18,964 - Why did you send money to his friend? 217 00:08:19,032 --> 00:08:21,199 - So that she could give it to him. 218 00:08:21,268 --> 00:08:22,133 - How much? 219 00:08:22,202 --> 00:08:23,702 - Over the course of three years, 220 00:08:23,770 --> 00:08:28,306 I've sent maybe around a grand. 221 00:08:28,375 --> 00:08:30,008 - Courtney... - [chuckles] 222 00:08:30,077 --> 00:08:32,677 - That's a lot of money. - Yeah. 223 00:08:32,746 --> 00:08:34,613 - Courtney, you see how this sounds? 224 00:08:34,681 --> 00:08:35,814 - [chuckles] 225 00:08:35,883 --> 00:08:37,682 - Who is his friend? Who is this girl? 226 00:08:37,751 --> 00:08:41,086 - It's Ece. - And do you ever talk to her? 227 00:08:41,154 --> 00:08:42,053 - I don't. 228 00:08:42,122 --> 00:08:43,822 - Does her Cash App profile 229 00:08:43,891 --> 00:08:46,057 have a photo? Could you pull it up for us? 230 00:08:46,126 --> 00:08:49,728 - I used to have it, but then it disappeared. 231 00:08:49,796 --> 00:08:52,731 - So she just wiped her page. - Completely. 232 00:08:52,799 --> 00:08:54,933 It doesn't exist anymore. I've tried looking for it. 233 00:08:55,002 --> 00:08:56,902 - Hmm. - Oh, Courtney. 234 00:08:56,970 --> 00:08:58,203 So after all this shadiness, 235 00:08:58,272 --> 00:09:00,171 you still have strong feelings? 236 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,941 How do you feel about him? - Oh, I'm in love with him. 237 00:09:03,010 --> 00:09:05,744 He is actually my longest relationship. 238 00:09:05,812 --> 00:09:08,413 - Really? - Yes, we were engaged once. 239 00:09:08,482 --> 00:09:10,248 - When was that? - 2018. 240 00:09:10,317 --> 00:09:12,551 - What is that? - He sent me that picture. 241 00:09:12,619 --> 00:09:13,919 - So he sent you an anime picture 242 00:09:13,987 --> 00:09:15,787 of a guy proposing. - Yes. 243 00:09:15,856 --> 00:09:17,889 - So that was the engagement? - Yes. 244 00:09:17,958 --> 00:09:20,258 And I went, "Yes." And he went, "That was easy." 245 00:09:20,327 --> 00:09:21,726 [chuckles] - Wow. 246 00:09:23,230 --> 00:09:24,829 - [laughs] 247 00:09:24,898 --> 00:09:27,332 - I mean, look, he sounds really cool, okay? 248 00:09:27,401 --> 00:09:28,767 He's into cool stuff. 249 00:09:28,835 --> 00:09:30,669 He's an artist, and he lives in Turkey. 250 00:09:30,737 --> 00:09:33,104 But come on, the guy can video chat, 251 00:09:33,173 --> 00:09:35,640 and he's had excuses not to for the last three years. 252 00:09:35,709 --> 00:09:37,008 There has to be a reason for that. 253 00:09:37,077 --> 00:09:38,543 That, coupled with the fact 254 00:09:38,612 --> 00:09:40,312 that he's only ever sent you one photo 255 00:09:40,380 --> 00:09:43,315 and you only had one weird phone call, 256 00:09:43,383 --> 00:09:46,551 suggests to me that there's a very, very good likelihood 257 00:09:46,620 --> 00:09:48,119 he's not the guy in that photo. 258 00:09:48,188 --> 00:09:49,421 - I'm ready to get answers. - Mm-hmm. 259 00:09:49,489 --> 00:09:52,991 - I have to find out if it's actually him or not. 260 00:09:53,961 --> 00:09:55,560 I just want it to be real. 261 00:09:55,629 --> 00:09:58,296 - All right, so look, send us anything you've got. 262 00:09:58,365 --> 00:09:59,497 Let us do a little research, 263 00:09:59,566 --> 00:10:00,765 and we'll see if we can figure something out. 264 00:10:00,834 --> 00:10:02,233 - Thank you, guys. 265 00:10:02,302 --> 00:10:05,804 - Oh, boy. What do you think? 266 00:10:05,872 --> 00:10:08,306 - My biggest concern is that Chris 267 00:10:08,375 --> 00:10:10,075 doesn't really care about her that much. 268 00:10:10,143 --> 00:10:11,576 - Seems like he's a scammer 269 00:10:11,645 --> 00:10:14,245 or at least he's hiding something really big. 270 00:10:14,314 --> 00:10:19,284 But it concerns me that Courtney is so invested 271 00:10:19,353 --> 00:10:22,554 that she's literally changing her favorite things 272 00:10:22,623 --> 00:10:23,955 to be his favorite things. 273 00:10:24,024 --> 00:10:26,758 Her personality has now become 274 00:10:26,827 --> 00:10:29,561 the things that are his favorite things, 275 00:10:29,630 --> 00:10:32,597 and that is a slippery [bleep] slope. 276 00:10:32,666 --> 00:10:34,366 [dramatic music] 277 00:10:36,103 --> 00:10:37,469 [computer chimes] 278 00:10:37,537 --> 00:10:40,872 - Something's going on here. We need to help Courtney. 279 00:10:40,941 --> 00:10:43,808 Some classic catfish red flags with Chris. 280 00:10:43,877 --> 00:10:45,877 - Mm-hmm. - Won't video chat. 281 00:10:45,946 --> 00:10:48,513 Only talked on the phone once. 282 00:10:48,582 --> 00:10:50,582 Normally, I would say that he says he lives in Turkey 283 00:10:50,651 --> 00:10:52,817 is one of them, but that actually seems to be true. 284 00:10:52,886 --> 00:10:54,152 - I think that part is real. 285 00:10:54,221 --> 00:10:56,254 - He either directly asked for 286 00:10:56,323 --> 00:10:58,957 or hinted towards her sending him money, 287 00:10:59,026 --> 00:11:00,859 which she has done, but, of course, 288 00:11:00,927 --> 00:11:03,228 he doesn't have his own Cash App 289 00:11:03,296 --> 00:11:05,463 or Venmo or wire transfer. 290 00:11:05,532 --> 00:11:07,732 She has to send the money to his friend. 291 00:11:07,801 --> 00:11:09,768 - Always got to send the money to the friend. 292 00:11:09,836 --> 00:11:11,102 - Just shady. 293 00:11:11,171 --> 00:11:13,138 - My biggest concern is that, 294 00:11:13,206 --> 00:11:15,674 whether it's a guy or a girl behind this, 295 00:11:15,742 --> 00:11:18,877 their feelings do not match Courtney's feelings. 296 00:11:18,945 --> 00:11:21,513 Like, he sent her a meme of an engagement, 297 00:11:21,581 --> 00:11:23,948 and she took that as a real life engagement. 298 00:11:24,017 --> 00:11:25,717 - I know. 299 00:11:25,786 --> 00:11:26,918 - She needs to be kind of, like, 300 00:11:26,987 --> 00:11:28,019 brought down to Earth a little bit 301 00:11:28,088 --> 00:11:30,955 because it's just not giving 302 00:11:31,024 --> 00:11:32,891 what it's supposed to have been gave. 303 00:11:32,959 --> 00:11:33,958 - All right, well, let's do some research. 304 00:11:34,027 --> 00:11:35,727 Let's see if we got an email here. 305 00:11:35,796 --> 00:11:37,729 All right, here's what I've got for you. 306 00:11:37,798 --> 00:11:39,497 His name is Chris [bleep]. 307 00:11:39,566 --> 00:11:42,233 He's 22 and lives in Izmit, Turkey, with his family. 308 00:11:42,302 --> 00:11:45,136 Here's his phone number, his personal Facebook page. 309 00:11:45,205 --> 00:11:47,539 The girl I sent money to is named Ece. 310 00:11:47,607 --> 00:11:50,942 All I on her is just her name. 311 00:11:51,011 --> 00:11:52,944 And then the two pictures. - Okay. 312 00:11:53,013 --> 00:11:54,646 - So let's go to his Facebook page. 313 00:11:54,715 --> 00:11:56,014 All right, so here 314 00:11:56,083 --> 00:11:58,650 it's Christoffer [bleep] or Narperist, 315 00:11:58,719 --> 00:12:00,852 which seems to be, like, the name he uses-- 316 00:12:00,921 --> 00:12:03,388 a sad artist. - One post. 317 00:12:03,457 --> 00:12:05,056 Or is his page locked up? 318 00:12:05,125 --> 00:12:07,092 - I don't know. Here's his art. 319 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,061 [soft dramatic music] 320 00:12:10,130 --> 00:12:11,996 Pretty good artist. 321 00:12:12,065 --> 00:12:15,500 ♪ ♪ 322 00:12:16,636 --> 00:12:18,903 He has another page for his art. 323 00:12:18,972 --> 00:12:20,905 The Narperist. 324 00:12:20,974 --> 00:12:22,107 Courtney never mentioned he had 325 00:12:22,175 --> 00:12:25,110 an art page on Facebook. 326 00:12:25,178 --> 00:12:26,544 Oh, and here's his phone number, 327 00:12:26,613 --> 00:12:30,115 which is the same as the number she gave us. 328 00:12:30,183 --> 00:12:31,616 Here's an Instagram. 329 00:12:31,685 --> 00:12:34,219 She didn't mention that, but all this stuff 330 00:12:34,287 --> 00:12:38,890 is all kind of available to see on his artist account. 331 00:12:38,959 --> 00:12:41,059 He's got a story. Okay. 332 00:12:41,128 --> 00:12:42,327 I mean, there's a subtitle there 333 00:12:42,395 --> 00:12:44,629 that looks to be Turkish. - Yeah. 334 00:12:44,698 --> 00:12:46,064 ♪ ♪ 335 00:12:46,133 --> 00:12:48,199 He has a TikTok. 336 00:12:48,268 --> 00:12:52,036 I'll look it up. Found it. 337 00:12:52,105 --> 00:12:55,807 It says artist, he, him, age 22. 338 00:12:55,876 --> 00:12:57,542 - But there's no videos, obviously, right? 339 00:12:57,611 --> 00:12:58,643 - There's videos. 340 00:12:58,712 --> 00:13:00,411 ♪ ♪ 341 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:01,913 Him drawing. 342 00:13:01,982 --> 00:13:03,915 - But is it just his hand? - Yeah. 343 00:13:03,984 --> 00:13:05,784 - All these social media profiles, 344 00:13:05,852 --> 00:13:08,520 and there still aren't any more pictures of him. 345 00:13:08,588 --> 00:13:10,855 It's all just the same art stuff. 346 00:13:10,924 --> 00:13:12,123 So that doesn't help. 347 00:13:12,192 --> 00:13:13,525 Now let's do a quick image search 348 00:13:13,593 --> 00:13:16,227 of that one picture where he shows his face 349 00:13:16,296 --> 00:13:17,829 just in case something comes up. 350 00:13:17,898 --> 00:13:19,230 ♪ ♪ 351 00:13:19,299 --> 00:13:20,331 No. 352 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:21,833 And then here's the mask picture. 353 00:13:21,902 --> 00:13:22,967 ♪ ♪ 354 00:13:23,036 --> 00:13:24,702 No. 355 00:13:24,771 --> 00:13:26,838 What else do we have here? We have his phone number. 356 00:13:26,907 --> 00:13:29,641 I don't think we can run international phone numbers. 357 00:13:29,709 --> 00:13:31,476 There's nothing else to search. 358 00:13:31,545 --> 00:13:33,478 - Well, what about searching for Ece, 359 00:13:33,547 --> 00:13:36,414 the friend that Courtney has been sending the money to 360 00:13:36,483 --> 00:13:37,982 on Christoffer's friend list? 361 00:13:38,051 --> 00:13:39,017 - Okay. 362 00:13:39,085 --> 00:13:40,919 ♪ ♪ 363 00:13:40,987 --> 00:13:43,988 Negative. Maybe on his Instagram. 364 00:13:44,057 --> 00:13:46,324 ♪ ♪ 365 00:13:46,393 --> 00:13:47,492 Ece! 366 00:13:47,561 --> 00:13:49,427 - [gasps] Aha! 367 00:13:49,496 --> 00:13:51,996 - Who is this? Could this be our girl? 368 00:13:52,065 --> 00:13:53,965 ♪ ♪ 369 00:13:54,034 --> 00:13:56,301 Well, she's into video games and gaming. 370 00:13:56,369 --> 00:13:57,635 - Mm. 371 00:13:57,704 --> 00:13:58,870 - I just want to see if there's any 372 00:13:58,939 --> 00:14:00,338 of her with Christoffer. 373 00:14:00,407 --> 00:14:02,207 - Yeah, aren't they supposed to be, like, best friends? 374 00:14:02,275 --> 00:14:05,410 - Yeah, there are no pictures of them together. 375 00:14:05,478 --> 00:14:07,278 All right, well, let's message her. 376 00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:09,013 - What if Chris is Ece? 377 00:14:09,082 --> 00:14:10,849 - She definitely seems to have some of the same hobbies. 378 00:14:10,917 --> 00:14:12,417 - Yeah. 379 00:14:12,485 --> 00:14:14,552 - What if Ece's trying to explore her sexuality? 380 00:14:14,621 --> 00:14:16,254 I mean, it might be a tough thing 381 00:14:16,323 --> 00:14:18,056 to do in the Turkish culture. - Right. 382 00:14:18,124 --> 00:14:19,891 - Think about this: you cannot find a picture 383 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,125 of him on the Internet. 384 00:14:21,194 --> 00:14:24,229 Why is this guy cloaking his identity, 385 00:14:24,297 --> 00:14:25,797 not just from her, but from everyone? 386 00:14:25,866 --> 00:14:28,233 - Well, how about the fact that they finally get on the phone 387 00:14:28,301 --> 00:14:30,034 once over the course of three years, 388 00:14:30,103 --> 00:14:31,736 and she admits that he sounded 389 00:14:31,805 --> 00:14:34,405 like he would rather be somewhere else? 390 00:14:34,474 --> 00:14:37,175 - Well, to me, that sounds like it was not him. 391 00:14:37,244 --> 00:14:41,012 He got somebody to be his voice for 30 minutes. 392 00:14:41,081 --> 00:14:42,747 - Or she got somebody. - Right. 393 00:14:42,816 --> 00:14:43,882 I think it's her. 394 00:14:43,950 --> 00:14:45,884 Ece is in love with Courtney 395 00:14:45,952 --> 00:14:48,319 but too afraid to admit it. 396 00:14:48,388 --> 00:14:50,655 - Courtney could be in for a big disappointment. 397 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:53,625 - All right, let's get Courtney on the horn 398 00:14:53,693 --> 00:14:54,859 for an update on what we found. 399 00:14:54,928 --> 00:14:55,860 - If it's this this girl Ece 400 00:14:55,929 --> 00:14:57,462 that she paid the $1,000 to, 401 00:14:57,530 --> 00:14:59,864 this could turn ugly really fast. 402 00:14:59,933 --> 00:15:01,366 [computer chimes] 403 00:15:01,434 --> 00:15:04,569 - Hey, what's up, Courtney? Who you got there? 404 00:15:04,638 --> 00:15:07,805 - Oh, I have a unicorn. - Is that your therapy animal? 405 00:15:07,874 --> 00:15:10,208 - Mm-hmm. - Cute. 406 00:15:10,277 --> 00:15:12,243 - All right, well, look, we did some research. 407 00:15:12,312 --> 00:15:13,478 We're trying to see what we can find. 408 00:15:13,546 --> 00:15:14,946 So let me share my screen with you 409 00:15:15,015 --> 00:15:16,748 so you can see what we found. 410 00:15:16,816 --> 00:15:19,350 As you already knew, he has his Facebook page, 411 00:15:19,419 --> 00:15:23,154 his personal one and his art one. 412 00:15:23,223 --> 00:15:25,223 - Oh. - Does that surprise you? 413 00:15:25,292 --> 00:15:27,158 - I just didn't know. 414 00:15:27,227 --> 00:15:29,227 - Well, on that page, his phone number 415 00:15:29,296 --> 00:15:30,962 is the same that you have. 416 00:15:31,031 --> 00:15:33,431 He's got a TikTok. Did you know he has a TikTok? 417 00:15:33,500 --> 00:15:34,666 - No. 418 00:15:34,734 --> 00:15:37,035 - And the big thing we found on his art page 419 00:15:37,103 --> 00:15:38,803 is a link to his Instagram. 420 00:15:38,872 --> 00:15:40,605 Did you know he has an Instagram? 421 00:15:40,674 --> 00:15:42,373 - I did not. 422 00:15:42,442 --> 00:15:44,208 - The weird thing is, all of his social media accounts 423 00:15:44,277 --> 00:15:45,677 have the same content. 424 00:15:45,745 --> 00:15:47,679 They're all basically his work as an artist, 425 00:15:47,747 --> 00:15:50,682 but none of them have any photos of him. 426 00:15:50,750 --> 00:15:52,550 Whoever he is, he's doing a very good job 427 00:15:52,619 --> 00:15:55,753 of keeping his identity a secret. 428 00:15:55,822 --> 00:15:57,555 ♪ ♪ 429 00:15:57,624 --> 00:16:00,658 The fact that you even have a photo of him is remarkable 430 00:16:00,727 --> 00:16:02,627 because there's no photos of him 431 00:16:02,696 --> 00:16:05,330 on any of his many social media profiles. 432 00:16:05,398 --> 00:16:07,165 But at the same time, he's got his phone number 433 00:16:07,233 --> 00:16:08,499 and his email, 434 00:16:08,568 --> 00:16:10,068 and you can contact him very easily 435 00:16:10,136 --> 00:16:11,502 if you want to commission artwork, 436 00:16:11,571 --> 00:16:14,472 so he's not against putting himself out there. 437 00:16:14,541 --> 00:16:18,042 He just doesn't want anyone to know what he looks like. 438 00:16:18,111 --> 00:16:19,410 - Hmm. 439 00:16:19,479 --> 00:16:21,145 - And so then we were trying to find out 440 00:16:21,214 --> 00:16:22,580 who this Ece girl is, 441 00:16:22,649 --> 00:16:24,515 the person you sent the money to. 442 00:16:24,584 --> 00:16:26,417 So we went back to his Instagram. 443 00:16:26,486 --> 00:16:28,686 We went to see who he was following. 444 00:16:28,755 --> 00:16:31,122 We ended up seeing Ece. 445 00:16:31,191 --> 00:16:33,958 Yeah, that's--that's her. 446 00:16:34,027 --> 00:16:36,594 So nothing really with Chris, 447 00:16:36,663 --> 00:16:38,196 and they're supposed to be close. 448 00:16:38,264 --> 00:16:40,832 - Hmm. - We reached out to her. 449 00:16:42,135 --> 00:16:44,302 - Have you ever talked to her through social media?. 450 00:16:44,371 --> 00:16:46,504 - No, not that I can remember. 451 00:16:46,573 --> 00:16:50,174 - So you've never communicated with her one on one at all? 452 00:16:50,243 --> 00:16:51,509 - No, I can't. 453 00:16:51,578 --> 00:16:53,478 He said she doesn't speak English. 454 00:16:53,546 --> 00:16:57,482 - Interesting. - So what if Chris is Ece? 455 00:16:57,550 --> 00:16:59,951 - That could explain not talking on the phone. 456 00:17:00,020 --> 00:17:01,652 - Right. 457 00:17:01,721 --> 00:17:03,287 - She definitely seems to have some of the same hobbies. 458 00:17:03,356 --> 00:17:05,656 She's into video games and gaming. 459 00:17:05,725 --> 00:17:07,692 ♪ ♪ 460 00:17:07,761 --> 00:17:09,560 - How would you feel about that? 461 00:17:09,629 --> 00:17:11,229 ♪ ♪ 462 00:17:11,297 --> 00:17:12,897 - I honestly don't know. 463 00:17:12,966 --> 00:17:14,866 ♪ ♪ 464 00:17:14,934 --> 00:17:17,168 That's not a deal breaker. 465 00:17:17,237 --> 00:17:19,170 - Ooh. - Oh. 466 00:17:19,239 --> 00:17:20,671 - Okay, that's good. 467 00:17:20,740 --> 00:17:22,173 - [chuckles] 468 00:17:22,242 --> 00:17:23,741 - Now you have a little crush on her. 469 00:17:23,810 --> 00:17:25,243 - I just think she's really pretty. 470 00:17:25,311 --> 00:17:26,577 - She is really pretty. 471 00:17:26,646 --> 00:17:28,212 I mean, if this is who you're talking to-- 472 00:17:28,281 --> 00:17:29,914 - I wouldn't be upset. 473 00:17:29,983 --> 00:17:32,817 - And obviously, you guys had a strong connection for years. 474 00:17:32,886 --> 00:17:35,319 - Have you dated girls also? - Yes. 475 00:17:35,388 --> 00:17:37,488 - Would you say that you identify as bisexual? 476 00:17:37,557 --> 00:17:40,358 - Yes. - Does Chris know that? 477 00:17:40,427 --> 00:17:41,993 - We have not talked about that, no. 478 00:17:42,062 --> 00:17:43,394 - Well, that's interesting. 479 00:17:43,463 --> 00:17:45,229 So maybe if it is Ece you've been talking to, 480 00:17:45,298 --> 00:17:47,665 she was afraid to come clean because she didn't think 481 00:17:47,734 --> 00:17:50,301 you'd be comfortable dating a girl. 482 00:17:50,370 --> 00:17:51,702 So I don't know what to do. 483 00:17:51,771 --> 00:17:54,639 I think, at this point, we're kind of out of options 484 00:17:54,707 --> 00:17:56,374 except to reach out to Christoffer. 485 00:17:56,443 --> 00:17:58,476 So what it's gonna, I think, come down to is, 486 00:17:58,545 --> 00:18:01,512 you're gonna need to be prepared to give him 487 00:18:01,581 --> 00:18:04,449 or her an ultimatum and say, 488 00:18:04,517 --> 00:18:07,118 "Hey, if we're gonna keep being in a relationship, 489 00:18:07,187 --> 00:18:09,787 "I need to talk to you. I need to know who you are. 490 00:18:09,856 --> 00:18:14,158 And if not, are you prepared to stop being in a relationship?" 491 00:18:14,227 --> 00:18:16,127 - I don't know. 492 00:18:16,196 --> 00:18:21,365 ♪ ♪ 493 00:18:21,434 --> 00:18:23,634 I'm sorry. I'm probably about to cry. 494 00:18:23,703 --> 00:18:27,572 - You just--you need to do what's best for you. 495 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,373 - You're kind of losing yourself 496 00:18:29,442 --> 00:18:31,242 to morph into the interests of Chris. 497 00:18:31,311 --> 00:18:33,578 I just wish that it felt like 498 00:18:33,646 --> 00:18:35,713 he was making as much of an effort for you. 499 00:18:35,782 --> 00:18:36,848 - Yeah. 500 00:18:36,916 --> 00:18:38,382 - This has been three years of your life. 501 00:18:38,451 --> 00:18:40,118 It's okay to be emotional about that. 502 00:18:40,186 --> 00:18:42,353 It's okay to be emotional about the fact that you're giving, 503 00:18:42,422 --> 00:18:45,723 giving, giving to someone and having to accept 504 00:18:45,792 --> 00:18:47,525 whatever they give you in return, 505 00:18:47,594 --> 00:18:49,193 even though you know deep down inside, 506 00:18:49,262 --> 00:18:52,430 it's not enough. - Yeah. 507 00:18:52,499 --> 00:18:54,832 - You deserve to get what you want. 508 00:18:54,901 --> 00:18:56,634 So I think we should message him 509 00:18:56,703 --> 00:18:58,870 and just say, "Hey, we're helping Courtney. 510 00:18:58,938 --> 00:19:01,205 "I know you guys haven't been able to video chat in the past, 511 00:19:01,274 --> 00:19:03,975 "but I think now's the perfect time." 512 00:19:04,043 --> 00:19:05,076 And see what he says. 513 00:19:05,145 --> 00:19:06,777 - Okay. 514 00:19:06,846 --> 00:19:07,845 - "Hey, Christoffer. 515 00:19:07,914 --> 00:19:09,447 "This is Nev from the MTV show 'Catfish.' 516 00:19:09,516 --> 00:19:10,581 "We're helping your girlfriend Courtney, 517 00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:12,416 "hoping to help you guys connect via Zoom 518 00:19:12,485 --> 00:19:13,951 "and finally meet face-to-face. 519 00:19:14,020 --> 00:19:15,653 Looking forward to hearing back from you." 520 00:19:15,722 --> 00:19:17,522 How's that? - Sounds good. 521 00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:19,690 - Sent. Okay, cool. 522 00:19:19,759 --> 00:19:21,726 ♪ ♪ 523 00:19:21,794 --> 00:19:23,561 All right, so now let's see what happens. 524 00:19:23,630 --> 00:19:24,729 - How do you feel? 525 00:19:24,797 --> 00:19:26,764 How are your anxiety levels right now? 526 00:19:26,833 --> 00:19:29,500 - They're peaking. - Mm-hmm. 527 00:19:29,569 --> 00:19:30,935 - It's the middle of the night there. 528 00:19:31,004 --> 00:19:32,336 I don't know if he stays up late or not, 529 00:19:32,405 --> 00:19:34,805 but let's assume he's sleeping. 530 00:19:34,874 --> 00:19:36,407 Fingers crossed, in the morning, 531 00:19:36,476 --> 00:19:38,109 he gets the message, and we wake up 532 00:19:38,178 --> 00:19:39,610 to a message from him saying, 533 00:19:39,679 --> 00:19:41,913 "I'm available whenever you want." 534 00:19:41,981 --> 00:19:44,682 - I mean, I'm really nervous either way. 535 00:19:44,751 --> 00:19:48,753 - Courtney, you deserve more, so let's get that for you. 536 00:19:48,821 --> 00:19:51,522 - Thanks, guys. - All right, Courtney. 537 00:19:51,591 --> 00:19:53,024 Talk to you tomorrow. 538 00:19:53,092 --> 00:19:54,992 - All right. Talk to you guys tomorrow. 539 00:19:55,061 --> 00:19:56,460 - Bye. 540 00:19:56,529 --> 00:19:58,262 - I mean, Courtney is holding it together, 541 00:19:58,331 --> 00:20:00,298 but she is very emotional, 542 00:20:00,366 --> 00:20:03,267 and this is the longest relationship she's been in. 543 00:20:03,336 --> 00:20:07,338 If this doesn't go well and we find out that this person 544 00:20:07,407 --> 00:20:09,006 has just sort of been playing with her 545 00:20:09,075 --> 00:20:10,441 and using her for money, 546 00:20:10,510 --> 00:20:13,277 that is gonna be very, very bad. 547 00:20:13,346 --> 00:20:15,580 [dramatic music] 548 00:20:15,648 --> 00:20:16,614 [phone chimes] 549 00:20:16,683 --> 00:20:19,417 - Oh, my God. Okay. 550 00:20:19,485 --> 00:20:22,220 I have a DM from Courtney. 551 00:20:22,288 --> 00:20:23,688 "Sorry to bother you right now. 552 00:20:23,756 --> 00:20:25,623 "Chris messaged me, and he said 553 00:20:25,692 --> 00:20:26,924 "that he wouldn't video chat 554 00:20:26,993 --> 00:20:28,759 without talking to you guys first." 555 00:20:28,828 --> 00:20:32,330 Okay, that's not a problem. 556 00:20:32,398 --> 00:20:34,632 I know it's late Nev's time, 557 00:20:34,701 --> 00:20:37,602 but I'm happy to talk to him. 558 00:20:37,670 --> 00:20:39,003 Like, whatever it takes 559 00:20:39,072 --> 00:20:42,607 to get him to show up tomorrow is fine by me. 560 00:20:42,675 --> 00:20:44,575 If we have to do a little coercing... 561 00:20:44,644 --> 00:20:46,944 [sighs] Fine. 562 00:20:48,081 --> 00:20:49,013 [phone chimes] 563 00:20:49,082 --> 00:20:50,248 Ooh, I got something. I got something. 564 00:20:50,316 --> 00:20:51,549 I got something. Okay. 565 00:20:51,618 --> 00:20:54,118 "I was told to message you?" Question mark. 566 00:20:54,187 --> 00:20:57,855 Guess I just keep it friendly. What the [bleep] do I say? 567 00:20:57,924 --> 00:21:03,060 "Hey, my name is Kamie. I host the show with Nev." 568 00:21:03,129 --> 00:21:04,762 ♪ ♪ 569 00:21:04,831 --> 00:21:09,400 "Courtney told me you got our message 570 00:21:09,469 --> 00:21:14,005 and wanted to chat," smiley face. 571 00:21:15,308 --> 00:21:17,408 He said, "Yeah. I don't know about the show 572 00:21:17,477 --> 00:21:20,011 and don't want to know." Hmm. 573 00:21:20,079 --> 00:21:23,681 How would you feel about jumping on Zoom 574 00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:27,852 with us tomorrow and keeping your camera off? 575 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,955 Once you're comfortable, you could turn it on. 576 00:21:31,024 --> 00:21:32,857 ♪ ♪ 577 00:21:32,925 --> 00:21:35,026 He said, "Ha. No. Stop pushing it." 578 00:21:35,094 --> 00:21:35,993 What? 579 00:21:36,062 --> 00:21:39,497 Not pushing, just making convo. 580 00:21:39,565 --> 00:21:40,831 ♪ ♪ 581 00:21:40,900 --> 00:21:43,501 "You're pushing. I don't like you very much." 582 00:21:43,569 --> 00:21:45,936 What the hell? 583 00:21:46,005 --> 00:21:48,506 This guy is just full of [bleep] and making excuses. 584 00:21:48,574 --> 00:21:51,609 But Courtney would be there. She's really cool, by the way. 585 00:21:51,678 --> 00:21:53,944 And she's very into you. 586 00:21:55,148 --> 00:21:57,782 "I'm not doing the show. Don't contact me again. 587 00:21:57,850 --> 00:21:59,383 Good night." [bleep]. 588 00:21:59,452 --> 00:22:00,851 I think I just [bleep] this up. 589 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,020 ♪ ♪ 590 00:22:05,925 --> 00:22:07,358 - All right, let's see. What do we got? 591 00:22:07,427 --> 00:22:10,027 Oh, whoa. Wait a second. 592 00:22:10,096 --> 00:22:12,163 Yesterday night, "Hey, Nev, I just tried calling you. 593 00:22:12,231 --> 00:22:13,898 "If you could get a hold of me whenever you're able to, 594 00:22:13,966 --> 00:22:16,801 I'd really appreciate it. It's important." 595 00:22:16,869 --> 00:22:18,569 And then Kamie. Oh, boy. 596 00:22:18,638 --> 00:22:21,772 Some drama seems to have transpired overnight. 597 00:22:21,841 --> 00:22:23,441 [dramatic music] 598 00:22:23,509 --> 00:22:24,742 [computer chimes] 599 00:22:24,811 --> 00:22:26,110 What did I miss? 600 00:22:26,179 --> 00:22:27,945 - The tea is piping hot this morning. 601 00:22:28,014 --> 00:22:29,180 - What? 602 00:22:29,248 --> 00:22:31,182 - So last night, I had a DM from Courtney... 603 00:22:31,250 --> 00:22:32,483 - Mm-hmm. 604 00:22:32,552 --> 00:22:35,686 - Basically saying Chris says that he doesn't want 605 00:22:35,755 --> 00:22:38,723 to talk to us because he doesn't know us, 606 00:22:38,791 --> 00:22:40,224 and he doesn't want to talk to any strangers. 607 00:22:40,293 --> 00:22:41,292 - Sure. 608 00:22:41,361 --> 00:22:42,893 - And Chris was asking 609 00:22:42,962 --> 00:22:46,030 if he could talk to you or I 610 00:22:46,099 --> 00:22:47,965 because he just wants to be comfortable. 611 00:22:48,034 --> 00:22:49,867 But I just told her like, "Yeah, for sure. 612 00:22:49,936 --> 00:22:52,303 Have him message me." So he does. 613 00:22:52,372 --> 00:22:55,039 - Oh! Okay, wait. 614 00:22:55,108 --> 00:22:58,909 Let's get Courtney in the Zoom so you can fill us both in. 615 00:22:58,978 --> 00:23:02,012 So you and Chris have now been texting. 616 00:23:02,081 --> 00:23:03,314 - Mm-hmm. 617 00:23:03,383 --> 00:23:04,315 [computer chimes] 618 00:23:04,384 --> 00:23:05,282 Oh. - Hi. 619 00:23:05,351 --> 00:23:06,317 - Hey. - Hey. 620 00:23:06,386 --> 00:23:07,585 - What's up, guys? 621 00:23:07,653 --> 00:23:09,387 - There is a lot going on right now. 622 00:23:09,455 --> 00:23:12,656 - I'm just getting filled in on last night's events. 623 00:23:12,725 --> 00:23:13,924 - So Chris and I, 624 00:23:13,993 --> 00:23:15,960 we had a conversation, and I said, 625 00:23:16,028 --> 00:23:18,329 "Hi, my name is Kamie. I host the show with Nev. 626 00:23:18,398 --> 00:23:20,131 "How would you feel about jumping on Zoom 627 00:23:20,199 --> 00:23:23,033 with us tomorrow and keeping your camera off to start?" 628 00:23:23,102 --> 00:23:24,802 And he said, "Ha. No. 629 00:23:24,871 --> 00:23:27,838 Stop pushing it. I don't like you very much." 630 00:23:27,907 --> 00:23:30,174 And then he said, "I'm not doing the show. 631 00:23:30,243 --> 00:23:32,276 Don't contact me again. Good night." 632 00:23:33,346 --> 00:23:34,545 - Whoa. 633 00:23:34,614 --> 00:23:36,914 - I didn't know what to do at this point. 634 00:23:36,983 --> 00:23:39,617 But then, I'm in the bed, about to fall asleep, 635 00:23:39,685 --> 00:23:42,052 and lo and behold, I get a DM. 636 00:23:42,121 --> 00:23:44,054 He says, "I was told to message you to talk 637 00:23:44,123 --> 00:23:45,156 "a bit to get comfortable. 638 00:23:45,224 --> 00:23:47,124 I don't want to talk about the show." 639 00:23:47,193 --> 00:23:48,359 So I'm like, "Okay, cool. 640 00:23:48,428 --> 00:23:49,493 Let's talk about something else." 641 00:23:49,562 --> 00:23:51,262 And let me just say, 642 00:23:51,330 --> 00:23:52,930 it's an interesting ride. 643 00:23:52,999 --> 00:23:56,767 Let me scroll all the way to the top. 644 00:23:56,836 --> 00:23:58,803 - Oh, my God. Are you kidding me? 645 00:23:58,871 --> 00:24:00,271 - I said, "Let's talk about something else. 646 00:24:00,339 --> 00:24:02,706 I hear you're into anime. I know a few good ones." 647 00:24:02,775 --> 00:24:04,909 I lied. I don't know a few good ones. 648 00:24:04,977 --> 00:24:07,745 He said, "Yeah, anime, games, books, nerd stuff." 649 00:24:07,814 --> 00:24:09,079 Games, I know. 650 00:24:09,148 --> 00:24:10,514 We start talking about different games. 651 00:24:10,583 --> 00:24:12,116 We start talking about consoles. 652 00:24:12,185 --> 00:24:14,485 Like, clearly, we get into a full-ass convo. 653 00:24:14,554 --> 00:24:18,122 And that was when we started having a little vibe. 654 00:24:18,191 --> 00:24:20,424 When it seemed like we had gotten somewhere 655 00:24:20,493 --> 00:24:22,693 and I was like, "It was good talking to you." 656 00:24:22,762 --> 00:24:25,396 And he was like, "Oh, okay. Well, I'll talk to you later." 657 00:24:25,465 --> 00:24:29,200 And then this morning, he messages me, "Eh, hi." 658 00:24:29,268 --> 00:24:33,771 So now I don't know how to segue into this 659 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,275 because whether I'm talking to Ece or Chris or someone else, 660 00:24:38,344 --> 00:24:40,010 when it comes to getting them on a Zoom, 661 00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:44,548 clearly, any mention of it is like, "No." 662 00:24:44,617 --> 00:24:47,084 - Whenever I go about talking about important things 663 00:24:47,153 --> 00:24:48,085 with him, 664 00:24:48,154 --> 00:24:50,287 I kind of, like, ease it onto him. 665 00:24:50,356 --> 00:24:51,755 - Courtney, no offense, 666 00:24:51,824 --> 00:24:54,391 but, like, the gentle tactics you've been using 667 00:24:54,460 --> 00:24:55,893 might have been effective 668 00:24:55,962 --> 00:24:58,028 in slowly making him more comfortable, 669 00:24:58,097 --> 00:25:00,097 but certainly hasn't been enough to get him 670 00:25:00,166 --> 00:25:01,832 to actually show his face yet. 671 00:25:01,901 --> 00:25:03,000 So at some point, we have to say, 672 00:25:03,069 --> 00:25:04,435 "Hey, so today is the day. 673 00:25:04,504 --> 00:25:05,936 "If you're not gonna do it, then fine, 674 00:25:06,005 --> 00:25:08,439 but if you are, it has to be, like, now." 675 00:25:08,508 --> 00:25:09,907 - Okay, let me try this. 676 00:25:09,976 --> 00:25:14,011 Real talk-- let's talk about Courtney, 677 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,482 because that's no game. That's real life. 678 00:25:18,551 --> 00:25:19,717 - Nice. 679 00:25:19,785 --> 00:25:21,886 [phone chimes] 680 00:25:21,954 --> 00:25:23,621 - "Okay." That's good. 681 00:25:23,689 --> 00:25:25,022 That's a positive reaction 682 00:25:25,091 --> 00:25:27,358 to talking about the reality of his life. 683 00:25:27,426 --> 00:25:30,461 - I said, "I obviously know how she feels about you. 684 00:25:30,530 --> 00:25:33,831 How do you feel about her?" - Oh, okay. 685 00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:36,867 [dramatic music] 686 00:25:36,936 --> 00:25:39,103 - He said, "I like her a lot and all." 687 00:25:39,171 --> 00:25:41,472 - Aw. - "I'm just not really sure 688 00:25:41,541 --> 00:25:43,073 if I love, though." 689 00:25:43,142 --> 00:25:45,910 - He's not very open on the whole emotional stuff. 690 00:25:45,978 --> 00:25:47,244 - "But don't get me wrong, 691 00:25:47,313 --> 00:25:49,647 "it isn't just her, it's in general. 692 00:25:49,715 --> 00:25:52,049 "I don't think I'm capable of the feeling. 693 00:25:52,118 --> 00:25:54,118 But I do like her a lot, I guess." 694 00:25:54,387 --> 00:25:55,719 - I don't know what to say to that. 695 00:25:55,788 --> 00:25:57,221 - Could this just be 696 00:25:57,290 --> 00:25:59,456 Ece not being comfortable with her sexuality? 697 00:25:59,525 --> 00:26:00,691 That's what it sounds like to me. 698 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:01,759 [phone chimes] 699 00:26:01,827 --> 00:26:04,061 "I'm not gonna be on camera." 700 00:26:04,130 --> 00:26:07,398 "Courtney is open-minded, 701 00:26:07,466 --> 00:26:11,135 "even if you're not the guy in the picture. 702 00:26:11,203 --> 00:26:15,906 Courtney's camera is on, and she looks really pretty." 703 00:26:16,576 --> 00:26:18,242 - You're so sweet. 704 00:26:18,311 --> 00:26:20,344 - Listen, we got to lure him in. 705 00:26:22,114 --> 00:26:24,848 Said, "Sure she does." - Aw. 706 00:26:24,917 --> 00:26:26,317 - Okay, send me the link. 707 00:26:26,385 --> 00:26:28,886 Send me the link, Nev. We're in a sweet spot. 708 00:26:28,955 --> 00:26:30,921 - All right, sent. - Copy, paste. 709 00:26:30,990 --> 00:26:32,056 Sent to Chris. 710 00:26:32,124 --> 00:26:33,791 Ha! 711 00:26:33,859 --> 00:26:36,026 ♪ ♪ 712 00:26:36,095 --> 00:26:38,162 - They said, "Okay." - They said, "Okay." 713 00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:40,397 - Let's see if they follow through. 714 00:26:40,466 --> 00:26:41,632 - Are you okay? 715 00:26:41,701 --> 00:26:44,401 - My anxiety is kind of up. 716 00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:47,371 ♪ ♪ 717 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,773 [computer chimes] 718 00:26:49,842 --> 00:26:52,176 - [synthesized voice] Hi. 719 00:26:52,244 --> 00:26:55,846 - Hello? Can you hear us? 720 00:26:55,915 --> 00:26:57,348 If you can hear us, maybe you could-- 721 00:26:57,416 --> 00:26:59,516 - Oh. 722 00:26:59,585 --> 00:27:02,319 There he is. - Yes, I can hear you. 723 00:27:02,622 --> 00:27:04,321 I can hear everything. 724 00:27:05,091 --> 00:27:06,490 - What is happening? 725 00:27:07,426 --> 00:27:08,359 [uneasy music] 726 00:27:08,427 --> 00:27:10,127 [bright chime] - Oh. 727 00:27:12,031 --> 00:27:14,665 - [synthesized voice] Hi. 728 00:27:14,734 --> 00:27:18,102 - Hello? Can you hear us? 729 00:27:18,170 --> 00:27:19,870 If you can hear us, maybe you could-- 730 00:27:19,939 --> 00:27:23,507 - Oh. There he is. 731 00:27:23,576 --> 00:27:24,908 - Hi. 732 00:27:24,977 --> 00:27:29,947 Yes, I can hear you. I can hear everything. 733 00:27:33,386 --> 00:27:37,454 Sorry for being off camera. I'm not talking. 734 00:27:37,523 --> 00:27:39,289 I am not comfortable. 735 00:27:39,358 --> 00:27:41,859 - Okay. Well, hello. 736 00:27:41,927 --> 00:27:46,296 I'm Kamie, Nev, and Courtney. 737 00:27:46,365 --> 00:27:50,634 - Hi. - Hi, Courtney. 738 00:27:54,540 --> 00:27:57,741 - Please just talk 739 00:27:57,810 --> 00:28:01,311 without, like, robot sound. 740 00:28:02,248 --> 00:28:04,248 - I don't like my voice. 741 00:28:05,518 --> 00:28:08,118 - You have to say something, eventually. 742 00:28:09,288 --> 00:28:11,422 - This is the voice I'm comfortable with. 743 00:28:12,525 --> 00:28:14,892 - Ece, if that's you, it's okay. 744 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,326 We're all open-minded here. 745 00:28:16,395 --> 00:28:18,195 And Courtney is okay with that. 746 00:28:18,264 --> 00:28:20,097 - I am not an imposter. 747 00:28:20,166 --> 00:28:23,934 I am not Ece. I am Chris. 748 00:28:33,713 --> 00:28:35,746 - Now that you're talking, 749 00:28:35,815 --> 00:28:37,047 your voice is great. 750 00:28:43,255 --> 00:28:44,521 - So, Chris, 751 00:28:44,590 --> 00:28:47,658 so you are in Turkey right now, right? 752 00:28:48,427 --> 00:28:51,161 - Yeah. - And are you also 22? 753 00:28:51,230 --> 00:28:53,630 Right, that's how old I think you said you were. 754 00:28:53,699 --> 00:28:55,733 - Yeah. 755 00:28:56,368 --> 00:28:58,702 - Courtney, why don't you explain to Chris 756 00:28:58,771 --> 00:29:01,472 why this is even happening? 757 00:29:02,007 --> 00:29:05,042 - Well, long story short, this is what Kamie and Nev do. 758 00:29:05,111 --> 00:29:07,544 They help people meet each other. 759 00:29:07,947 --> 00:29:09,213 They make it easier. 760 00:29:14,954 --> 00:29:18,655 - You've been asked for a call for three years, though. 761 00:29:29,635 --> 00:29:31,668 - Well, listen, even talking to us 762 00:29:31,737 --> 00:29:33,270 is a big step for you. 763 00:29:33,339 --> 00:29:34,872 It was just as much of a big step for Courtney 764 00:29:34,940 --> 00:29:37,541 after, you know, three years of you guys talking. 765 00:29:37,610 --> 00:29:41,178 It's been a long time. And all she's wanted is, 766 00:29:41,247 --> 00:29:43,614 like, literally this moment right now. 767 00:29:44,617 --> 00:29:46,283 - Yeah. 768 00:29:46,352 --> 00:29:52,523 The thing is, I don't like my voice and the way I look 769 00:29:52,591 --> 00:29:59,229 'cause, even though I'm a guy, I have a condition, 770 00:29:59,298 --> 00:30:01,632 basically a hormonal imbalance, 771 00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:07,137 which is why I sound, like, softer than a normal guy would. 772 00:30:07,206 --> 00:30:11,141 And I have more, like, softer features. 773 00:30:11,944 --> 00:30:16,780 So that's one of the reasons why I didn't even want to call, 774 00:30:16,849 --> 00:30:18,248 'cause even my friends 775 00:30:18,317 --> 00:30:23,387 sometimes, like, pick on me for this thing. 776 00:30:23,455 --> 00:30:24,955 - Yeah. 777 00:30:25,024 --> 00:30:28,091 But you know that Courtney is not one of those people. 778 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,995 - Courtney is understanding and loving. 779 00:30:32,064 --> 00:30:33,964 - It's been, like, so long that even 780 00:30:34,033 --> 00:30:38,135 if I were comfortable enough to share myself with her, 781 00:30:38,204 --> 00:30:41,672 it would be just kind of awkward for me. 782 00:30:41,740 --> 00:30:43,540 - Also, what do you think? Do you just see her 783 00:30:43,609 --> 00:30:46,143 as like a cool friend that you talk about stuff 784 00:30:46,212 --> 00:30:48,645 that you guys both like together with? 785 00:30:49,315 --> 00:30:51,415 - Obviously, she's more than a friend. 786 00:30:52,785 --> 00:30:54,585 - Hmm. 787 00:30:54,653 --> 00:30:59,189 - Chris, I think, despite your insecurities, 788 00:30:59,258 --> 00:31:02,125 you already know that you're a likable person, 789 00:31:02,628 --> 00:31:04,494 even if you may not like yourself. 790 00:31:04,563 --> 00:31:07,998 But you and I both know what you have to do right now. 791 00:31:08,367 --> 00:31:11,768 It's time to come on screen to let Courtney see you. 792 00:31:13,272 --> 00:31:17,674 - I know this was gonna come. - Please. 793 00:31:21,046 --> 00:31:22,880 - Okay. 794 00:31:22,948 --> 00:31:25,782 [suspenseful music] 795 00:31:25,851 --> 00:31:30,087 Hold on. 796 00:31:30,155 --> 00:31:31,622 No, no. It's good. 797 00:31:39,565 --> 00:31:42,232 - You already know that you're a likable person, 798 00:31:42,301 --> 00:31:44,167 even if you may not like yourself. 799 00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:48,872 But it's time to come on screen to let Courtney see you. 800 00:31:52,511 --> 00:31:54,011 - Please. 801 00:31:55,381 --> 00:31:58,315 [suspenseful music] 802 00:32:01,687 --> 00:32:03,787 No, no. It's good. 803 00:32:11,597 --> 00:32:13,096 [quiet dramatic music] 804 00:32:13,165 --> 00:32:16,967 - Yay! - There you are. 805 00:32:18,370 --> 00:32:20,837 So the picture you sent her, that was you? 806 00:32:25,010 --> 00:32:27,144 - Well, Courtney, looking at Chris, 807 00:32:27,212 --> 00:32:29,746 I'm going to bet that you like what you see. 808 00:32:29,815 --> 00:32:32,416 - Yeah. I'm so happy. 809 00:32:34,753 --> 00:32:36,753 I see nothing but perfection right here. 810 00:32:36,822 --> 00:32:40,857 So--you're so perfect. 811 00:32:42,861 --> 00:32:44,328 - I mean, how does that feel, Chris? 812 00:32:44,396 --> 00:32:46,596 Like, this is the girl who you've been talking to 813 00:32:46,665 --> 00:32:49,566 for a long-ass time, and you guys are really cool. 814 00:32:49,635 --> 00:32:53,770 And she doesn't care about any of the things 815 00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:56,173 that you're the most insecure about. 816 00:32:56,241 --> 00:33:00,210 Like, she doesn't give a [bleep] about hormones. 817 00:33:12,424 --> 00:33:13,924 - I know. 818 00:33:13,993 --> 00:33:15,892 - It's okay to be nervous. 819 00:33:18,864 --> 00:33:21,999 - Chris, the question that I have now is, 820 00:33:22,067 --> 00:33:24,468 you know, normally someone in your situation, 821 00:33:24,536 --> 00:33:28,005 who is very private with their identity, 822 00:33:28,073 --> 00:33:29,940 we would assume that you weren't the person 823 00:33:30,009 --> 00:33:31,108 in that picture. 824 00:33:31,176 --> 00:33:33,377 Since that was a picture of you, 825 00:33:33,445 --> 00:33:35,078 why then didn't you at least feel comfortable 826 00:33:35,147 --> 00:33:36,613 sending other photos? 827 00:33:36,682 --> 00:33:39,016 That way, at least you could control the pictures 828 00:33:39,084 --> 00:33:40,650 that she sees of you that you like, 829 00:33:40,719 --> 00:33:41,918 that you feel good about. 830 00:33:47,393 --> 00:33:49,559 - Have you always felt like that? 831 00:33:52,031 --> 00:33:53,830 - Have you had a relationship, 832 00:33:53,899 --> 00:33:57,434 a girlfriend, in person in Turkey? 833 00:33:59,038 --> 00:34:01,505 So would it be fair to say that physical intimacy 834 00:34:01,573 --> 00:34:05,175 is not something you're super experienced with? 835 00:34:05,911 --> 00:34:07,811 - Yeah. 836 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,246 - I asked because I know Courtney 837 00:34:09,314 --> 00:34:11,548 is probably ready to get on a plane tomorrow. 838 00:34:11,617 --> 00:34:13,350 Are you nervous about that? 839 00:34:13,886 --> 00:34:15,285 - Kind of. 840 00:34:26,598 --> 00:34:29,900 - You know, you say that, but I'm looking at Courtney, 841 00:34:29,968 --> 00:34:32,836 and it's--it's not adding up. 842 00:34:32,905 --> 00:34:34,671 - I only have two hands. 843 00:34:34,740 --> 00:34:37,174 I'm pointing at myself with all ten fingers. 844 00:34:37,709 --> 00:34:40,944 - I'm just saying I think that, for once, 845 00:34:41,013 --> 00:34:43,480 you could maybe give yourself permission 846 00:34:43,549 --> 00:34:47,884 to not think that someone doesn't like you, 847 00:34:47,953 --> 00:34:49,619 because she does. 848 00:34:49,688 --> 00:34:51,555 And you keep trying to tell her she doesn't. 849 00:34:51,623 --> 00:34:52,923 And she keeps trying to tell you 850 00:34:52,991 --> 00:34:54,324 that she does, so... 851 00:34:56,462 --> 00:34:57,861 - Hey, Chris, who is Ece? 852 00:35:03,469 --> 00:35:05,802 - Because Courtney mentioned that she would send money 853 00:35:05,871 --> 00:35:07,804 and that it would get sent to Ece. 854 00:35:08,507 --> 00:35:10,674 - Yeah. - Why didn't you just have 855 00:35:10,742 --> 00:35:12,042 Courtney send money to you? 856 00:35:22,154 --> 00:35:24,054 - But you did give Courtney some address. 857 00:35:26,792 --> 00:35:29,226 - So what was the money for? 858 00:35:56,622 --> 00:36:02,492 - Well, I think that they just don't understand you. 859 00:36:03,362 --> 00:36:05,629 But I know someone who does understand you. 860 00:36:08,333 --> 00:36:09,733 I do want for us to be able 861 00:36:09,801 --> 00:36:14,738 to give you guys an opportunity to talk without us. 862 00:36:15,207 --> 00:36:17,174 - Yeah. - Okay. 863 00:36:17,476 --> 00:36:19,276 - Okay, cool. 864 00:36:22,414 --> 00:36:24,080 - Hi. 865 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,560 - [sighs] 866 00:36:36,628 --> 00:36:37,961 - I'm.... 867 00:36:47,172 --> 00:36:49,306 [pensive music] 868 00:36:49,374 --> 00:36:51,308 - All is forgiven now. 869 00:36:53,111 --> 00:36:55,579 So I wanted to know something, though. 870 00:36:57,049 --> 00:37:00,717 - Yeah. - You brought up 871 00:37:00,786 --> 00:37:05,455 the hormone imbalance. Why were you afraid to tell me? 872 00:37:22,074 --> 00:37:24,174 - You can trust me with anything. 873 00:37:26,378 --> 00:37:28,311 - I know. 874 00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:34,784 - So does this mean that we'll be able to talk more, 875 00:37:34,853 --> 00:37:38,054 like on phone, video chat? 876 00:37:40,692 --> 00:37:43,193 - All right, yay. 877 00:38:01,613 --> 00:38:02,646 - Yeah. 878 00:38:07,486 --> 00:38:08,652 - Yeah. 879 00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:09,819 - Well... 880 00:38:15,994 --> 00:38:17,794 - I'd like that. 881 00:38:17,863 --> 00:38:20,830 Would you be able to take me to go pick some black roses? 882 00:38:20,899 --> 00:38:22,032 - Yeah. 883 00:38:30,142 --> 00:38:31,508 - Yep. 884 00:38:31,576 --> 00:38:34,611 I knew about it 'cause I looked it up. 885 00:38:37,482 --> 00:38:39,082 - That sounds really nice. 886 00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:47,023 I'm just so excited. [computer chimes] 887 00:38:47,092 --> 00:38:48,892 Hi, Kamie. - Oh, hi. 888 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,460 [computer chimes] 889 00:38:50,529 --> 00:38:53,129 - Clearly, you guys were into some kind of conversation. 890 00:38:53,198 --> 00:38:55,532 [Chris chuckles] 891 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,300 - All right, so how was it for you guys just now? 892 00:38:57,369 --> 00:38:59,202 Did it feel good to chat and hang out? 893 00:38:59,271 --> 00:39:01,571 - It felt really great, actually. 894 00:39:06,345 --> 00:39:08,144 - Wow. Very cool. 895 00:39:08,213 --> 00:39:09,813 - That's amazing. 896 00:39:09,881 --> 00:39:12,148 You know, this is a good start. 897 00:39:12,217 --> 00:39:14,584 And I'm very proud of both of you 898 00:39:14,653 --> 00:39:17,887 for coming on here and doing what needed to be done. 899 00:39:17,956 --> 00:39:20,023 - Thanks. 900 00:39:20,092 --> 00:39:22,792 - It is refreshing to see 901 00:39:22,861 --> 00:39:25,895 that you guys can now talk to each other. 902 00:39:26,198 --> 00:39:27,864 Chris, I think, 903 00:39:27,933 --> 00:39:31,101 despite your insecurities, you have a lot going for you. 904 00:39:31,169 --> 00:39:33,670 And Courtney sees that. We see that. 905 00:39:34,072 --> 00:39:35,872 So hopefully, this experience can be the beginning 906 00:39:35,941 --> 00:39:37,207 of just starting to feel 907 00:39:37,275 --> 00:39:38,408 a little bit better about yourself 908 00:39:38,477 --> 00:39:39,876 and a little bit more confident. 909 00:39:39,945 --> 00:39:42,412 And I am excited for the two of you to continue talking, 910 00:39:42,481 --> 00:39:43,947 and, hopefully, a trip to Turkey 911 00:39:44,015 --> 00:39:45,382 will be on the horizon 912 00:39:45,450 --> 00:39:49,119 and you will finally meet in real life someday soon. 913 00:39:49,187 --> 00:39:50,520 - Yeah. 914 00:39:50,589 --> 00:39:52,555 - That's the goal. - All right. 915 00:39:52,624 --> 00:39:55,058 Great meeting you. And talk to you soon, Chris. 916 00:39:55,127 --> 00:39:56,993 - Bye. 917 00:39:57,062 --> 00:39:58,895 Thank you. - Good luck. 918 00:39:58,964 --> 00:40:02,732 - What do you think, Courtney? 919 00:40:02,801 --> 00:40:04,901 - I'm so happy. 920 00:40:04,970 --> 00:40:10,039 I had to suppress all of this. Like, but finally! 921 00:40:10,942 --> 00:40:13,777 - Always know that you deserve everything that you want. 922 00:40:13,845 --> 00:40:17,080 It will come from somebody. It could be him. 923 00:40:17,149 --> 00:40:18,915 It could not be him. And that's okay. 924 00:40:18,984 --> 00:40:20,283 - Either way, don't take 925 00:40:20,352 --> 00:40:22,719 anything less than what you deserve. 926 00:40:22,788 --> 00:40:23,887 - Thank you. 927 00:40:23,955 --> 00:40:25,355 - Good luck. 928 00:40:25,424 --> 00:40:27,524 - Thank you. Yeah, good luck, Courtney. 929 00:40:27,592 --> 00:40:34,497 - ♪ Can you blame my human nature ♪ 930 00:40:34,566 --> 00:40:39,502 ♪ My human nature ♪ 931 00:40:39,571 --> 00:40:45,375 ♪ My human nature ♪ 932 00:40:51,383 --> 00:40:52,582 - This person has been on your show before. 933 00:40:52,651 --> 00:40:55,351 - You're talking to someone who was on "Catfish" 934 00:40:55,420 --> 00:40:56,820 as the catfish. 935 00:40:56,888 --> 00:40:58,321 - Yes. - What?! 936 00:40:58,390 --> 00:41:00,557 - Wow. This goes back the last seven years. 937 00:41:00,625 --> 00:41:02,025 - People are coming for you. 938 00:41:02,093 --> 00:41:03,893 - It's time to get to the bottom of who's doing this. 939 00:41:03,962 --> 00:41:06,296 - It could literally be anyone. 940 00:41:07,632 --> 00:41:09,399 - Hey. - So you're the one.