1 00:00:01,168 --> 00:00:03,402 - We got Tyler and Stefany. 2 00:00:03,471 --> 00:00:04,937 "We met on Pornhub." 3 00:00:05,006 --> 00:00:07,072 - Hoo! Spicy. - Wow, that's a first. 4 00:00:07,141 --> 00:00:08,307 - So you're a porn star? 5 00:00:08,376 --> 00:00:10,342 - Daddy got what he's got, you know? 6 00:00:10,411 --> 00:00:13,078 We have, like, genuine, actual conversations. 7 00:00:13,147 --> 00:00:14,313 It's not physical. 8 00:00:14,382 --> 00:00:16,048 I love her. I really do. 9 00:00:16,117 --> 00:00:17,816 - Oh! - [gasps] 10 00:00:17,885 --> 00:00:19,118 "Married." 11 00:00:19,186 --> 00:00:20,219 It says "married." 12 00:00:20,287 --> 00:00:21,387 What the [bleep] is going on? 13 00:00:21,455 --> 00:00:23,155 - "It's time you know the truth." 14 00:00:23,224 --> 00:00:25,290 - What truth? - Here she comes. 15 00:00:25,359 --> 00:00:26,959 [computer chimes] Oh. 16 00:00:27,028 --> 00:00:30,062 [dramatic musical sting] 17 00:00:30,131 --> 00:00:33,098 [upbeat music] 18 00:00:33,167 --> 00:00:35,034 ♪ ♪ 19 00:00:35,102 --> 00:00:36,568 All right. 20 00:00:36,637 --> 00:00:37,803 Ooooh...oh! 21 00:00:37,872 --> 00:00:38,837 Let's do this. 22 00:00:38,906 --> 00:00:42,007 Hello, Kamie. 23 00:00:42,076 --> 00:00:43,876 [computer chimes] - Hi. 24 00:00:43,944 --> 00:00:44,943 - Should we get to work here? 25 00:00:45,012 --> 00:00:46,111 - Ready. 26 00:00:46,180 --> 00:00:47,479 Let's see. What do we got? - Whoo! 27 00:00:47,548 --> 00:00:48,647 - Oh. - What's up? 28 00:00:48,716 --> 00:00:51,950 - Hey, Ariel. 29 00:00:52,019 --> 00:00:53,185 - Ariel. 30 00:00:53,254 --> 00:00:54,486 - Have you met my brother? 31 00:00:54,555 --> 00:00:56,255 - No, but you're the reason... - Not officially. 32 00:00:56,323 --> 00:00:57,523 - Why I'm employed. 33 00:00:57,591 --> 00:00:59,358 [laughter] 34 00:00:59,427 --> 00:01:00,659 - You're amazing at what you do. 35 00:01:00,728 --> 00:01:02,694 - Oh, thank you. 36 00:01:02,763 --> 00:01:03,996 - So for those of you who don't know, 37 00:01:04,065 --> 00:01:05,664 this is my brother Ariel. 38 00:01:05,733 --> 00:01:08,467 Along with his friend Henry, they are the guys who 39 00:01:08,536 --> 00:01:10,569 made the documentary "Catfish" about me 40 00:01:10,638 --> 00:01:12,404 and whose office I am currently borrowing. 41 00:01:12,473 --> 00:01:14,039 We were so young. 42 00:01:14,108 --> 00:01:16,175 - [laughs] Yeah, I didn't know what I was stepping into. 43 00:01:16,243 --> 00:01:17,643 I really just came to have lunch, but... 44 00:01:17,711 --> 00:01:18,977 - Okay, well... - Let's read an email. 45 00:01:19,046 --> 00:01:20,212 - Join us. 46 00:01:20,281 --> 00:01:21,513 - All right, so here we go. 47 00:01:21,582 --> 00:01:23,982 - "Hey, Nev and Kamie, my name is Tyler. 48 00:01:24,051 --> 00:01:27,152 "I live in Massachusetts, and the girl I'm in love with, 49 00:01:27,221 --> 00:01:28,987 "Stefany, lives in Florida. 50 00:01:29,056 --> 00:01:31,056 "We've been talking for the last two years. 51 00:01:31,125 --> 00:01:33,659 We met on Pornhub." 52 00:01:33,727 --> 00:01:35,360 - Hoo! - Wow, that's a first. 53 00:01:35,429 --> 00:01:37,229 I didn't even know you could meet on Pornhub. 54 00:01:37,298 --> 00:01:38,597 - In the comments maybe? - In the comments? 55 00:01:38,666 --> 00:01:40,132 - I wonder what category it was. 56 00:01:40,201 --> 00:01:41,467 - Can't wait to find out. 57 00:01:41,535 --> 00:01:43,268 - [laughs] 58 00:01:43,337 --> 00:01:44,570 - ♪ It's been a couple years ♪ 59 00:01:44,638 --> 00:01:47,172 ♪ Since I've been a little wasted ♪ 60 00:01:47,241 --> 00:01:48,440 - The next sentence is very funny. 61 00:01:48,509 --> 00:01:50,309 "I wasn't exactly looking for a relationship." 62 00:01:50,377 --> 00:01:51,643 - Yeah, obviously. 63 00:01:51,712 --> 00:01:53,212 - "We exchanged phone numbers quickly 64 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,213 and began to talk every night." 65 00:01:54,281 --> 00:01:55,481 ♪ ♪ 66 00:01:55,549 --> 00:01:56,849 "It's hard for me to open up 67 00:01:56,917 --> 00:01:59,785 "because of some bad breaks in my past." 68 00:01:59,854 --> 00:02:01,553 So I'm very cautious." 69 00:02:01,622 --> 00:02:03,889 - ♪ Could we slow down? ♪ 70 00:02:03,958 --> 00:02:07,159 ♪ I just want you to be honest with me ♪ 71 00:02:07,228 --> 00:02:08,360 "But Stefany has given me hope." 72 00:02:08,429 --> 00:02:10,295 - ♪ It gets so loud ♪ 73 00:02:10,364 --> 00:02:11,797 - "She's thoughtful, sexy, 74 00:02:11,866 --> 00:02:13,265 "and my favorite thing about her 75 00:02:13,334 --> 00:02:14,633 is that she's genuine." 76 00:02:14,702 --> 00:02:17,436 - ♪ I'll wait at your door ♪ 77 00:02:17,505 --> 00:02:20,105 ♪ All night on your porch ♪ 78 00:02:20,174 --> 00:02:21,340 - "She's everything to me. 79 00:02:21,408 --> 00:02:23,775 And I'm ready to spend my life with her." 80 00:02:23,844 --> 00:02:25,477 - ♪ I just want you to be honest with me ♪ 81 00:02:25,546 --> 00:02:27,613 - "But things have been a little fishy. 82 00:02:27,681 --> 00:02:29,681 "We've never videochatted or met up. 83 00:02:29,750 --> 00:02:32,317 "And I promise it's not from me not trying. 84 00:02:32,386 --> 00:02:36,321 "But Stefany always has some excuse. 85 00:02:36,390 --> 00:02:37,656 "I've tried to visit her in Florida, 86 00:02:37,725 --> 00:02:39,491 "but her parents are always having to get surgeries," 87 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,561 so she's always busy taking care of them." 88 00:02:42,630 --> 00:02:45,230 This is, like, checking every box. 89 00:02:45,299 --> 00:02:46,431 - Please hold. 90 00:02:46,500 --> 00:02:48,233 - Where are you going? 91 00:02:48,302 --> 00:02:49,668 - I just need to make sure I have them, 92 00:02:49,737 --> 00:02:50,903 because clearly we need them. 93 00:02:50,971 --> 00:02:52,671 - [laughs] 94 00:02:52,740 --> 00:02:54,640 "So that's why I'm writing you. 95 00:02:54,708 --> 00:02:56,642 "I want to make sure she's not a catfish, 96 00:02:56,710 --> 00:02:58,443 "because I want to move forward with her, 97 00:02:58,512 --> 00:03:00,312 "but I need to know that I can trust her. 98 00:03:00,381 --> 00:03:02,114 "All of my hopes are with her 99 00:03:02,183 --> 00:03:03,649 "and the strong connection we have. 100 00:03:03,717 --> 00:03:06,018 "I hope I'm wrong to doubt her. 101 00:03:06,086 --> 00:03:07,119 Tyler." 102 00:03:07,188 --> 00:03:11,056 ♪ ♪ 103 00:03:11,125 --> 00:03:11,990 I'm gonna text Tyler. 104 00:03:12,059 --> 00:03:13,525 "Hey, Tyler. 105 00:03:13,594 --> 00:03:14,526 "We want to help. 106 00:03:14,595 --> 00:03:17,262 Jump in the zoom." 107 00:03:17,331 --> 00:03:19,765 - How do you meet someone on Pornhub? 108 00:03:19,833 --> 00:03:21,867 Is she supposed to be a porn star? 109 00:03:23,938 --> 00:03:26,805 - Honestly, could Tyler be a porn star 110 00:03:26,874 --> 00:03:27,873 and she's, like, a fan? 111 00:03:27,942 --> 00:03:28,874 - Yeah, that's true. 112 00:03:28,943 --> 00:03:29,908 - [laughs] 113 00:03:29,977 --> 00:03:31,410 - All right, you should go eat lunch. 114 00:03:31,478 --> 00:03:33,645 I'll let you know when we've talked to Tyler 115 00:03:33,714 --> 00:03:35,180 and what he says. 116 00:03:35,249 --> 00:03:36,648 "Catfish" O.G. out. 117 00:03:36,717 --> 00:03:39,418 - Yes, period. - See you later, man. 118 00:03:39,486 --> 00:03:41,753 - But can we talk about this crazy [bleep] story? 119 00:03:41,822 --> 00:03:44,156 There's so many flags on the play. 120 00:03:44,225 --> 00:03:46,592 Both of her parents are having multiple surgeries? 121 00:03:46,660 --> 00:03:48,160 What the [bleep] is going on? 122 00:03:48,229 --> 00:03:49,228 [computer chimes] - Oh. 123 00:03:49,296 --> 00:03:52,998 - Ooh, Tyler. - Hey, Kamie, Nev. 124 00:03:53,067 --> 00:03:54,499 - Hi. - What's up, buddy? 125 00:03:54,568 --> 00:03:55,934 Where in Massachusetts are you? 126 00:03:56,003 --> 00:03:57,002 - I'm in Marlborough. 127 00:03:57,071 --> 00:03:58,503 - What do you do? 128 00:03:58,572 --> 00:04:01,440 - I worked at a coffee shop, and, of course, you know, 129 00:04:01,508 --> 00:04:02,641 all this COVID crap, 130 00:04:02,710 --> 00:04:04,409 they've been shutting down things. 131 00:04:04,478 --> 00:04:06,878 So I started making some porn. 132 00:04:06,947 --> 00:04:08,013 - Ooh. 133 00:04:08,082 --> 00:04:09,948 - You started making porn, amateur porn. 134 00:04:10,017 --> 00:04:14,586 - Yeah, yes, and it's not amateur anymore, but yes. 135 00:04:14,655 --> 00:04:16,054 - So you're a porn star? 136 00:04:16,123 --> 00:04:18,657 - I'm--I'm not this huge porn star, obviously. 137 00:04:18,726 --> 00:04:21,960 But Daddy--Daddy got what he's got, you know? 138 00:04:23,197 --> 00:04:25,497 - So you're telling me now that your primary source 139 00:04:25,566 --> 00:04:27,299 of income now is porn. 140 00:04:27,368 --> 00:04:28,333 - Yes, yes. 141 00:04:28,402 --> 00:04:29,868 - Wow. - Good for you. 142 00:04:29,937 --> 00:04:32,104 You have to use your God-given talents. 143 00:04:32,172 --> 00:04:34,106 - How often do you upload videos? 144 00:04:34,174 --> 00:04:36,441 - And so I've been trying to do it every two weeks. 145 00:04:36,510 --> 00:04:39,945 And don't do it with, like, the same girl. 146 00:04:40,014 --> 00:04:40,979 - How does that work? 147 00:04:41,048 --> 00:04:42,547 Do you have to go out and find women 148 00:04:42,616 --> 00:04:44,516 who want to make porn with you? 149 00:04:44,585 --> 00:04:47,052 - Right, and that's not the easiest thing to do, 150 00:04:47,121 --> 00:04:49,321 of course, you know, like, people think, 151 00:04:49,390 --> 00:04:50,455 "Oh, you're some creep. 152 00:04:50,524 --> 00:04:51,857 You're some weirdo." 153 00:04:51,925 --> 00:04:54,393 - How do you even find someone to, like, hit them up? 154 00:04:54,461 --> 00:04:56,795 - Pornhub. - Oh. 155 00:04:56,864 --> 00:04:58,163 - Yes. 156 00:04:58,232 --> 00:05:00,232 - And so you saw her, and you're like, "Oh, she's cute." 157 00:05:00,301 --> 00:05:02,601 - Yeah, and I messaged her. 158 00:05:02,670 --> 00:05:06,638 We started talking and everything like that. 159 00:05:06,707 --> 00:05:09,941 Of course, she's from Florida, so it didn't really lead 160 00:05:10,010 --> 00:05:12,911 to anything of us making actual contact with each other. 161 00:05:12,980 --> 00:05:16,348 But we would just actually just start talking. 162 00:05:16,417 --> 00:05:18,984 - Was she also making and uploading porn? 163 00:05:19,053 --> 00:05:21,586 - She did have a couple of videos. 164 00:05:21,655 --> 00:05:23,288 - You saw what she looked like. 165 00:05:23,357 --> 00:05:24,623 You saw her in a porn video. 166 00:05:24,692 --> 00:05:26,058 - I didn't see her face.... 167 00:05:26,126 --> 00:05:28,994 - Mm. - But her body seemed to match 168 00:05:29,063 --> 00:05:30,529 of what her pictures were. 169 00:05:30,597 --> 00:05:32,664 - But Stefany's profile, 170 00:05:32,733 --> 00:05:34,333 is there, like, a profile picture 171 00:05:34,401 --> 00:05:35,634 that you can put up? 172 00:05:35,703 --> 00:05:39,871 - Yes, she did have pictures of her face, yes. 173 00:05:39,940 --> 00:05:41,540 - Interesting, but at the same time 174 00:05:41,608 --> 00:05:43,542 her face wasn't in her videos. 175 00:05:43,610 --> 00:05:47,279 - No, so a lot of girls, they don't want to, like, 176 00:05:47,348 --> 00:05:49,047 the neighbor next door to know like, 177 00:05:49,116 --> 00:05:50,982 "Oh, yeah, I just shot a porn video," you know, 178 00:05:51,051 --> 00:05:53,618 so you always, like, keep their face out. 179 00:05:53,687 --> 00:05:54,753 - What do you know about her? 180 00:05:54,822 --> 00:05:56,655 Give us a sort of bio on Stefany. 181 00:05:56,724 --> 00:05:59,691 - I know she has two parents that are sick. 182 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,328 And she says she lives a little away from Tampa. 183 00:06:03,397 --> 00:06:04,329 - Are you guys the same age? 184 00:06:04,398 --> 00:06:05,731 - She's 35. I'm 26. 185 00:06:05,799 --> 00:06:07,466 - Oh, wow, okay, so she's a little older. 186 00:06:07,534 --> 00:06:09,101 - Oh, yeah, that's fine. 187 00:06:09,169 --> 00:06:10,669 - So has she been married? 188 00:06:10,738 --> 00:06:12,604 Has she--does she have kids? 189 00:06:12,673 --> 00:06:14,940 - Yeah, no, she has no kids as far as I'm concerned. 190 00:06:15,008 --> 00:06:17,209 She's not married as far as I'm concerned. 191 00:06:17,277 --> 00:06:18,543 None of those. 192 00:06:18,612 --> 00:06:20,145 - What is it about Stefany? 193 00:06:20,214 --> 00:06:21,580 What do you guys chat about? 194 00:06:21,648 --> 00:06:24,583 - We have, like, genuine, actual conversations. 195 00:06:24,651 --> 00:06:27,986 It's not physical, but it's us talking 196 00:06:28,055 --> 00:06:30,455 and knowing each other. 197 00:06:30,524 --> 00:06:32,023 I love her. I really do. 198 00:06:32,092 --> 00:06:34,960 We talk on the phone basically almost every night. 199 00:06:35,028 --> 00:06:37,329 - Wow. - If I'm upset, she's there. 200 00:06:37,398 --> 00:06:40,599 I'll talk to her, and she'll-- she'll talk with me. 201 00:06:40,667 --> 00:06:43,835 It's that genuine connection, and I [bleep] love that. 202 00:06:43,904 --> 00:06:47,906 Like...I... 203 00:06:47,975 --> 00:06:49,608 I haven't had that in so long. 204 00:06:49,676 --> 00:06:51,943 I have a hard time connecting with people, 205 00:06:52,012 --> 00:06:54,045 any type of, like, relationship or anything like that. 206 00:06:54,114 --> 00:06:56,782 - You said that you've had some bad breaks in your past. 207 00:06:56,850 --> 00:06:59,384 Is that relationship stuff? 208 00:06:59,453 --> 00:07:01,153 - Yes. - What happened? 209 00:07:01,221 --> 00:07:05,157 - Um, I was in a relationship with, um, 210 00:07:05,225 --> 00:07:08,193 this girl for maybe, like, three years. 211 00:07:08,262 --> 00:07:11,363 And it's, like, out of nowhere out of the blue 212 00:07:11,432 --> 00:07:14,266 she just hits me up and says, like, oh, it's over. 213 00:07:14,334 --> 00:07:18,837 And I tried hurting myself. 214 00:07:18,906 --> 00:07:20,739 Thank God I'm good now. 215 00:07:20,808 --> 00:07:22,040 - Well, I'm glad you made it through that. 216 00:07:22,109 --> 00:07:24,476 - Yeah, it was really hard. It was really hard. 217 00:07:24,545 --> 00:07:27,145 - So since then you haven't really had, like, 218 00:07:27,214 --> 00:07:28,780 a serious relationship? 219 00:07:28,849 --> 00:07:30,916 - The last year is just--no. 220 00:07:30,984 --> 00:07:33,084 - And then two years ago you met Stefany. 221 00:07:33,153 --> 00:07:34,586 - Stefany. 222 00:07:34,655 --> 00:07:36,888 - Do you guys talk about being in a relationship in real life? 223 00:07:36,957 --> 00:07:39,791 - Yeah, so we've talked about that, of course. 224 00:07:39,860 --> 00:07:41,927 And I feel like we already have a relationship. 225 00:07:41,995 --> 00:07:44,095 - But you've never videochatted. 226 00:07:44,164 --> 00:07:45,764 - And that's why I'm hitting you guys up. 227 00:07:45,833 --> 00:07:47,032 - Well, so yeah, what's the deal with that? 228 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:49,501 Because obviously she's using technology. 229 00:07:49,570 --> 00:07:51,169 I mean, she's uploading videos. 230 00:07:51,238 --> 00:07:53,939 How can she explain not FaceTiming? 231 00:07:54,007 --> 00:07:55,340 - So she has, like, an Android, right? 232 00:07:55,409 --> 00:07:56,975 And I have an iPhone. 233 00:07:57,044 --> 00:07:59,845 I've mentioned, I was like, "Oh, do you have Facebook?" 234 00:07:59,913 --> 00:08:00,946 "No." 235 00:08:01,014 --> 00:08:02,214 "Do you want to download Snapchat?" 236 00:08:02,282 --> 00:08:03,682 "No." 237 00:08:03,750 --> 00:08:05,383 Every single time, there was an excuse 238 00:08:05,452 --> 00:08:06,885 And he has been nerve-racking. 239 00:08:06,954 --> 00:08:09,054 Here's the thing, so I tried to meet up with her before. 240 00:08:09,122 --> 00:08:12,724 And it's, her father's sick or her mother's sick. 241 00:08:12,793 --> 00:08:15,327 Every time it's somebody's sick. 242 00:08:15,395 --> 00:08:16,828 - Right. 243 00:08:16,897 --> 00:08:18,196 - I've been doing this for two years with her. 244 00:08:18,265 --> 00:08:19,498 Just tell me. 245 00:08:19,566 --> 00:08:21,333 Just tell me. Show me anything. 246 00:08:21,401 --> 00:08:23,068 - Yeah, it's been two years. 247 00:08:23,136 --> 00:08:24,603 - Yeah, it scares the heck out of me. 248 00:08:24,671 --> 00:08:26,071 What if it's not her? 249 00:08:26,139 --> 00:08:28,406 That why I got in contact with you guys. 250 00:08:28,475 --> 00:08:30,342 - Do you have pictures that we can see? 251 00:08:30,410 --> 00:08:32,878 - Yeah. - Oh, here we go. 252 00:08:32,946 --> 00:08:34,880 Oh, hello. - Oh. 253 00:08:34,948 --> 00:08:37,115 - So tig ol' bitties. 254 00:08:37,184 --> 00:08:38,116 - Her bottom. 255 00:08:38,185 --> 00:08:39,484 - I'm good. 256 00:08:39,553 --> 00:08:41,486 - [laughs] - Scroll. 257 00:08:41,555 --> 00:08:42,888 - Okay. - Okay. 258 00:08:42,956 --> 00:08:44,789 - So but here she is normal looking very nice. 259 00:08:44,858 --> 00:08:47,759 - Yeah, you know what I mean? 260 00:08:47,828 --> 00:08:50,362 - Yeah, she looks like a normal girl. 261 00:08:50,430 --> 00:08:53,331 But obviously there's something that keeps getting in the way. 262 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:54,866 - Always. 263 00:08:54,935 --> 00:08:57,502 - Send us the pictures, her name, her phone number. 264 00:08:57,571 --> 00:08:58,937 - Pornhub username. 265 00:08:59,006 --> 00:09:00,906 - So recently she deleted her account. 266 00:09:00,974 --> 00:09:04,109 I believe she had some verification issues. 267 00:09:04,177 --> 00:09:07,712 - Is that because now in order to upload content on Pornhub 268 00:09:07,781 --> 00:09:09,180 you have to have, like, a verified account? 269 00:09:09,249 --> 00:09:10,582 - Yes. 270 00:09:10,651 --> 00:09:11,783 - All right, well, we've got our work cut out for us. 271 00:09:11,852 --> 00:09:13,151 We're gonna help. 272 00:09:13,220 --> 00:09:15,086 - Thank you. Thank you so much. 273 00:09:15,155 --> 00:09:16,821 - Talk soon. - All right, thank you, guys. 274 00:09:16,890 --> 00:09:19,024 - Bye. - Okay, buh-bye. 275 00:09:19,092 --> 00:09:20,959 [computer chimes] - Whew. 276 00:09:21,028 --> 00:09:22,661 - Part of me feels like there's as much of a chance 277 00:09:22,729 --> 00:09:24,262 that it is actually her as that there isn't, 278 00:09:25,732 --> 00:09:28,500 It wasn't like she was trolling looking for guys to catfish. 279 00:09:28,569 --> 00:09:30,569 - I think that it is her in the photos, 280 00:09:30,637 --> 00:09:32,871 but something else is going on. 281 00:09:32,940 --> 00:09:35,473 And she cannot let Tyler in on that. 282 00:09:35,542 --> 00:09:37,776 - Right. What is she hiding? 283 00:09:39,079 --> 00:09:41,813 - ♪ I've waited here all summer long ♪ 284 00:09:41,882 --> 00:09:44,015 ♪ For you my love to come back home ♪ 285 00:09:44,084 --> 00:09:45,083 - Hey. 286 00:09:45,152 --> 00:09:46,251 - All right, so what do we got here? 287 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,687 We got Tyler. He's 26. 288 00:09:48,755 --> 00:09:51,923 He's uploading porn and looking for women 289 00:09:51,992 --> 00:09:54,960 to want to make videos with him 290 00:09:55,028 --> 00:09:57,395 and sees this girl Stefany. 291 00:09:57,464 --> 00:09:59,698 They start chatting, and they fall in love. 292 00:09:59,766 --> 00:10:02,767 The problem is, Stefany is a little shady. 293 00:10:02,836 --> 00:10:04,302 She doesn't want to FaceTime. 294 00:10:04,371 --> 00:10:07,138 Every time Tyler makes a plan to go down to visit her 295 00:10:07,207 --> 00:10:09,841 in Florida she says that one of her parents is sick. 296 00:10:09,910 --> 00:10:12,577 - He's, like, very much emotionally invested. 297 00:10:12,646 --> 00:10:13,812 You can tell that he's, like... - Oh, yeah. 298 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,481 - Sick to his stomach even thinking about her 299 00:10:16,550 --> 00:10:18,016 not being real. 300 00:10:18,085 --> 00:10:20,785 - Maybe there's something big about her life 301 00:10:20,854 --> 00:10:22,821 that he doesn't know that she's intentionally 302 00:10:22,889 --> 00:10:23,888 been keeping from him. 303 00:10:23,957 --> 00:10:25,423 So we've got to figure it out. 304 00:10:25,492 --> 00:10:26,891 So let's see, we've got an email. 305 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,793 Okay, good. He sent us an email. 306 00:10:28,862 --> 00:10:29,995 "Hey, guys, thanks for helping me. 307 00:10:30,063 --> 00:10:31,463 "Here's what I know about Stefany. 308 00:10:31,531 --> 00:10:33,031 Uncommon spelling. 309 00:10:33,100 --> 00:10:36,234 S-T-E-F-A-N-Y. 310 00:10:36,303 --> 00:10:37,435 "Her last name is Dunngar." 311 00:10:37,504 --> 00:10:38,870 Unusual in a good way. 312 00:10:38,939 --> 00:10:39,804 I mean, if there is someone named Stefany Dunngar, 313 00:10:39,873 --> 00:10:40,905 we should be able to find her. 314 00:10:40,974 --> 00:10:42,807 "She's lives in Largo, Florida. 315 00:10:42,876 --> 00:10:43,942 "Her phone number... 316 00:10:44,011 --> 00:10:45,477 "She doesn't have a Pornhub anymore, 317 00:10:45,545 --> 00:10:49,447 But I remember her username on there was ny angel [bleep]." 318 00:10:49,516 --> 00:10:51,182 And he sent her pictures. 319 00:10:51,251 --> 00:10:53,151 All right, let me download these pictures. 320 00:10:53,220 --> 00:10:56,655 All right, what should we start with, image search? 321 00:10:56,723 --> 00:10:59,157 Let's do this one. 322 00:10:59,226 --> 00:11:00,358 Nothing. 323 00:11:00,427 --> 00:11:02,127 Here's another one. 324 00:11:02,195 --> 00:11:03,328 Anything there? No. 325 00:11:03,397 --> 00:11:04,896 Okay, oh, here's the boob pic, 326 00:11:04,965 --> 00:11:06,798 which I doubt will show up, but... 327 00:11:06,867 --> 00:11:08,233 - Are we searching those? 328 00:11:08,301 --> 00:11:10,935 - Jesus Christ. - Oh, wait a second. 329 00:11:11,004 --> 00:11:12,704 Wait a second. - What? What? 330 00:11:12,773 --> 00:11:14,939 This--look at this. 331 00:11:15,008 --> 00:11:17,308 - [gasps] 332 00:11:17,377 --> 00:11:20,478 - The boob pic. - Oh. 333 00:11:20,547 --> 00:11:22,180 - Whoa, a lot of hits. 334 00:11:22,249 --> 00:11:24,883 - "[bleep] naked at a redneck party." 335 00:11:24,951 --> 00:11:26,217 - All right, I'm clicking this. 336 00:11:26,286 --> 00:11:28,086 - [laughs] 337 00:11:28,155 --> 00:11:29,320 - Here it is. 338 00:11:29,389 --> 00:11:32,791 - How do the titties come back out of everything? 339 00:11:32,859 --> 00:11:35,860 - So this was from September of 2014. 340 00:11:35,929 --> 00:11:37,395 - So this is old, then. 341 00:11:37,464 --> 00:11:38,930 - Hold on. Let me just search this butt pic too, 342 00:11:38,999 --> 00:11:40,365 'cause I wonder if that will show up. 343 00:11:40,434 --> 00:11:44,235 Look, they're all showing up. This is ridiculous. 344 00:11:44,304 --> 00:11:48,640 I mean, this--we've never had this many hits on pictures. 345 00:11:48,709 --> 00:11:50,909 These are not, like, some girl sending him 346 00:11:50,977 --> 00:11:52,143 cute pics of her butt. 347 00:11:52,212 --> 00:11:53,745 Like, clearly whoever he's talking to 348 00:11:53,814 --> 00:11:54,846 is getting these pictures off the internet. 349 00:11:54,915 --> 00:11:56,848 - Or just posting them on the internet. 350 00:11:56,917 --> 00:11:58,917 - That would be so weird if you're talking 351 00:11:58,985 --> 00:12:01,119 to a woman, and you think she's your girlfriend. 352 00:12:01,188 --> 00:12:02,554 And you're like, "Send me a pic," 353 00:12:02,622 --> 00:12:04,656 and she's like, "Okay," and then she just sends you 354 00:12:04,725 --> 00:12:06,491 a pic that she's uploaded on the internet 355 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:08,660 that showed up on a ton of sites. 356 00:12:08,729 --> 00:12:09,994 Like, no. 357 00:12:10,063 --> 00:12:11,329 He thinks those are pictures that she's taking 358 00:12:12,232 --> 00:12:14,299 I think we can officially and scall it.o him. 359 00:12:14,367 --> 00:12:18,803 The "sexy photos" that Stefany has sent to Tyler are not her. 360 00:12:18,872 --> 00:12:20,805 Now, we don't know if the face pics are her. 361 00:12:20,874 --> 00:12:23,475 Because those didn't come back anywhere. 362 00:12:23,543 --> 00:12:26,811 Let's go to Pornhub and see if we can find her. 363 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,046 Here we go. 364 00:12:28,115 --> 00:12:29,280 - She said she deleted her [bleep], 365 00:12:29,349 --> 00:12:31,216 but who knows? - Here we go. 366 00:12:31,284 --> 00:12:33,752 "ny angel [bleep]." - Lord have mercy. 367 00:12:33,820 --> 00:12:36,621 [funky music] 368 00:12:36,690 --> 00:12:37,956 - Nothing. 369 00:12:38,024 --> 00:12:39,524 Well, she told Tyler the truth about something. 370 00:12:39,593 --> 00:12:41,359 She did close her account. 371 00:12:41,428 --> 00:12:45,497 So let's run the number, the old phone number, 372 00:12:45,565 --> 00:12:48,233 and see if we get anything there. 373 00:12:48,301 --> 00:12:50,835 Ooh--oh! - [gasps] 374 00:12:50,904 --> 00:12:52,303 - Oh, my God. Wait a second. 375 00:12:52,372 --> 00:12:57,108 On Spokeo the number comes back to Lea Dunngar, Florida. 376 00:12:57,177 --> 00:13:00,111 - Related to Stefany Dunngar. 377 00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:03,515 - Oh, my God, Stefany with an F-A-N-Y. 378 00:13:03,583 --> 00:13:04,682 - Oh, [bleep]. 379 00:13:04,751 --> 00:13:05,984 - I can't believe it. 380 00:13:06,052 --> 00:13:08,086 So wait a second. - Oh, [bleep]. 381 00:13:08,155 --> 00:13:09,954 - So if it's a family plan, 382 00:13:10,023 --> 00:13:12,290 at least she's not lying about her name. 383 00:13:12,359 --> 00:13:16,427 - So I'm assuming that this is Stefany's mom. 384 00:13:16,496 --> 00:13:17,595 - So let's look up. 385 00:13:17,664 --> 00:13:18,730 So we want to look up Lea or Stefany. 386 00:13:18,799 --> 00:13:19,964 I mean, let's just look up Stefany. 387 00:13:20,033 --> 00:13:21,132 I mean, that's what she says her name is. 388 00:13:21,201 --> 00:13:23,134 All right, well, there are some Stefanys. 389 00:13:23,203 --> 00:13:24,636 All right, so there's no one on Facebook who spells their name 390 00:13:24,704 --> 00:13:26,604 exactly like her. 391 00:13:26,673 --> 00:13:28,239 Let's do Lea Dunngar. 392 00:13:28,308 --> 00:13:29,407 No. 393 00:13:29,476 --> 00:13:31,709 - What about a Google search for her name? 394 00:13:31,778 --> 00:13:34,646 - All right, let's see. 395 00:13:34,714 --> 00:13:37,148 No. 396 00:13:37,217 --> 00:13:38,850 Lea Dunngar. 397 00:13:38,919 --> 00:13:40,585 What's this? Oh, look. 398 00:13:40,654 --> 00:13:43,688 There's a voter registration result for Lea Dunngar. 399 00:13:43,757 --> 00:13:45,390 She's got a voter record. 400 00:13:45,458 --> 00:13:48,560 Oh, here it says she's listed at 63. 401 00:13:48,628 --> 00:13:50,261 - Okay. - So that would make 402 00:13:50,330 --> 00:13:51,963 more sense. - Yeah, Stefany Dunngar. 403 00:13:52,032 --> 00:13:53,431 You see it under "Relatives"? 404 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:55,633 - Stefany Dunngar. 405 00:13:55,702 --> 00:13:59,270 - Search it. 406 00:13:59,339 --> 00:14:01,539 - There she is, 35. 407 00:14:01,608 --> 00:14:02,540 Just like she said. 408 00:14:02,609 --> 00:14:04,776 - Click it. Click it. 409 00:14:04,845 --> 00:14:06,444 "Married." 410 00:14:06,513 --> 00:14:07,545 It says "married." 411 00:14:07,614 --> 00:14:09,447 Oh, boy. - Bingo. 412 00:14:09,516 --> 00:14:11,516 - Oh, boy. 413 00:14:11,585 --> 00:14:15,086 - Girl. 414 00:14:15,155 --> 00:14:17,088 Ay-yi-yi. 415 00:14:17,157 --> 00:14:18,990 - Now, maybe she's divorced, but do you think she-- 416 00:14:19,059 --> 00:14:21,359 in two years she might have mentioned that, right? 417 00:14:21,428 --> 00:14:23,228 - Right. 418 00:14:23,296 --> 00:14:26,064 - But it looks like her name is Stefany Dunngar, 419 00:14:26,132 --> 00:14:27,932 and she is 35, and she does live 420 00:14:28,001 --> 00:14:31,035 in the Tampa area, which is all great. 421 00:14:31,104 --> 00:14:35,340 I mean, shocking but positive. 422 00:14:35,408 --> 00:14:39,043 - If I were to place my $1 bet right now, 423 00:14:39,112 --> 00:14:43,514 I would say Stefany Dunngar is the girl in the photos, 424 00:14:43,583 --> 00:14:45,016 but she is married. 425 00:14:45,085 --> 00:14:46,351 - There's something going on here, 426 00:14:46,419 --> 00:14:49,220 and Tyler's, like, not well-suited 427 00:14:49,289 --> 00:14:52,590 for heartbreak and disappointment. 428 00:14:52,659 --> 00:14:55,727 - No. I don't know if it's better to pull the Band-Aid off 429 00:14:55,795 --> 00:14:57,495 now or later. 430 00:14:57,564 --> 00:14:59,163 It's not looking good. 431 00:15:00,834 --> 00:15:02,867 - All right, so it looks like her name is Stefany Dunngar, 432 00:15:02,936 --> 00:15:06,371 and she is 35, and she does live in the Tampa area. 433 00:15:06,439 --> 00:15:08,306 - But there's a possibility that Stefany 434 00:15:08,375 --> 00:15:09,607 could still be married, 435 00:15:09,676 --> 00:15:12,076 which would be the worst-case scenario. 436 00:15:12,145 --> 00:15:14,545 But then how was she on the phone with him for hours 437 00:15:14,614 --> 00:15:16,447 if she has a husband? - That's true. 438 00:15:16,516 --> 00:15:19,350 Let's text Tyler. 439 00:15:19,419 --> 00:15:22,153 "We've got some info..." 440 00:15:22,222 --> 00:15:23,488 - Ay-yi-yi-yi. 441 00:15:23,556 --> 00:15:27,158 - "Jump back in the zoom." 442 00:15:27,227 --> 00:15:28,092 All right, he's coming in the zoom. 443 00:15:28,161 --> 00:15:29,294 - Okay. - He's coming in. 444 00:15:29,362 --> 00:15:32,096 [computer chimes] 445 00:15:32,165 --> 00:15:34,265 - Welcome back. - What's up? 446 00:15:34,334 --> 00:15:35,967 - Hey, how's everything? 447 00:15:36,036 --> 00:15:38,002 - How are you feeling about all this since, 448 00:15:38,071 --> 00:15:39,304 you know, we talked earlier? 449 00:15:39,372 --> 00:15:42,340 - Really nerve-racking, you know? 450 00:15:42,409 --> 00:15:44,542 I'm just waiting to see what you guys find out. 451 00:15:44,611 --> 00:15:46,611 - [sighs] - Well, we've got 452 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:51,082 some very interesting information for you. 453 00:15:51,151 --> 00:15:53,451 We started just searching all the photos that you sent us... 454 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:54,719 - Yeah. - Of Stefany. 455 00:15:54,788 --> 00:15:56,688 And the first three were just pictures of her, 456 00:15:56,756 --> 00:15:59,190 you know, normal sort of everyday, 457 00:15:59,259 --> 00:16:00,491 and there were no hits. 458 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,929 And then we searched the picture of her breasts, 459 00:16:04,998 --> 00:16:08,466 and that was our first hit. 460 00:16:08,535 --> 00:16:10,635 And as you can see if you scroll down, 461 00:16:10,704 --> 00:16:13,504 it shows up on a bunch of different sites. 462 00:16:13,573 --> 00:16:16,874 It was posted apparently on 2014. 463 00:16:16,943 --> 00:16:18,543 So if that is a pictures of Stefany 464 00:16:18,611 --> 00:16:20,011 it's at least six years old, 465 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,315 and if it is actually her, it's something that she 466 00:16:24,384 --> 00:16:28,119 must have shared or perhaps someone else shared of her. 467 00:16:28,188 --> 00:16:31,889 But it's on the internet. 468 00:16:31,958 --> 00:16:33,624 Were you under the impression that that was sort of 469 00:16:33,693 --> 00:16:35,326 a just-now type of photo? 470 00:16:35,395 --> 00:16:36,961 - Yeah. - It could be her. 471 00:16:37,030 --> 00:16:38,496 - Right. 472 00:16:38,565 --> 00:16:40,431 - I just think that would be weird 473 00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:42,700 for her to have sent you a photo 474 00:16:42,769 --> 00:16:44,435 that she's shared online... 475 00:16:44,504 --> 00:16:46,404 - Something forever ago. - Six years ago. Like... 476 00:16:46,473 --> 00:16:47,939 - Yep. - Just kind of weird. 477 00:16:48,008 --> 00:16:51,209 So it suggests that maybe that's not her. 478 00:16:51,277 --> 00:16:55,213 And maybe she found that picture online. 479 00:16:55,281 --> 00:16:57,148 So we searched this one next, 480 00:16:57,217 --> 00:16:58,516 the picture of her butt. 481 00:16:58,585 --> 00:17:00,518 And that one also came back 482 00:17:00,587 --> 00:17:02,553 with hits on a bunch of websites. 483 00:17:02,622 --> 00:17:05,256 [tense music] 484 00:17:05,325 --> 00:17:09,627 So think it's safe to say that the pictures she's sending you 485 00:17:09,696 --> 00:17:12,964 that are sexy aren't her. 486 00:17:13,033 --> 00:17:14,699 - Yeah. 487 00:17:14,768 --> 00:17:17,101 I mean, it does look that way, yeah. 488 00:17:17,170 --> 00:17:18,803 Yeah, I mean, I know exactly what you're saying. 489 00:17:18,872 --> 00:17:21,739 I mean, it was from years ago, like... 490 00:17:21,808 --> 00:17:23,441 - Right. - This is all blowing my mind 491 00:17:23,510 --> 00:17:25,043 - Right now; excuse me. - Right 492 00:17:26,246 --> 00:17:27,612 - I mean, look, there's also the possibility 493 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,847 that she's careful. 494 00:17:29,916 --> 00:17:31,849 Now, even though you met her on Pornhub, 495 00:17:31,918 --> 00:17:33,284 her videos didn't show her face, 496 00:17:33,353 --> 00:17:36,154 and so maybe even talking to you she just wants to be 497 00:17:36,222 --> 00:17:38,289 extra careful, and so she doesn't want to take 498 00:17:38,358 --> 00:17:40,758 any chances and send pictures of her actual body. 499 00:17:40,827 --> 00:17:42,460 I could see that argument being made. 500 00:17:42,529 --> 00:17:45,897 It doesn't change the fact that she is lying to you. 501 00:17:45,965 --> 00:17:47,965 - Wow. 502 00:17:48,034 --> 00:17:50,568 - Well, because I'm assuming that when she's sending you 503 00:17:50,637 --> 00:17:54,605 these pictures you're commenting back to her 504 00:17:54,674 --> 00:17:57,909 about how you feel about what she's sending you. 505 00:17:57,977 --> 00:18:00,611 - Yeah, and so, like, I'm like, "Oh, wow, that's sexy," 506 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:01,846 and, like, "Oh, that's hot." 507 00:18:01,915 --> 00:18:04,582 But you're saying, like, exactly, it's years ago, 508 00:18:04,651 --> 00:18:05,983 and so even if it is her, 509 00:18:06,052 --> 00:18:08,719 I don't know, it's just not all adding up. 510 00:18:08,788 --> 00:18:10,655 And I'm not liking this at all. 511 00:18:10,723 --> 00:18:13,091 I'm not liking this. 512 00:18:13,159 --> 00:18:17,662 - Well, this is where we kind of get to some good news, okay? 513 00:18:17,730 --> 00:18:19,530 So next thing we wanted to do 514 00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:21,499 is search her phone number, right? 515 00:18:21,568 --> 00:18:25,269 So we did a search for the phone number. 516 00:18:25,338 --> 00:18:27,672 And it came back to Lea Dunngar. 517 00:18:27,740 --> 00:18:29,740 But then we scrolled down to her relatives, 518 00:18:29,809 --> 00:18:32,176 and we found Stefany Dunngar. 519 00:18:32,245 --> 00:18:34,545 - Yay, thank God. 520 00:18:34,614 --> 00:18:38,049 - So then we did another search for Lea Dunngar. 521 00:18:38,118 --> 00:18:40,451 And we found a voter registration website 522 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:41,886 in Florida. 523 00:18:41,955 --> 00:18:43,321 We then were like, "Oh, let's search 'Stefany,'" 524 00:18:43,389 --> 00:18:46,190 and we did "Stefanys," and we found 525 00:18:46,259 --> 00:18:48,693 that she is also registered. 526 00:18:48,761 --> 00:18:51,095 Stefany Dunngar. - Yay, 35. 527 00:18:51,164 --> 00:18:52,597 - This was shockingly good. 528 00:18:52,665 --> 00:18:54,899 And this a pretty official website. 529 00:18:54,968 --> 00:18:57,034 I mean, her name... - Yes. 530 00:18:57,103 --> 00:18:59,604 - Her age, where she-- the same city 531 00:18:59,672 --> 00:19:03,174 that she says she lives in, like, crazy. 532 00:19:03,243 --> 00:19:04,542 - Oh, yeah, oh, okay. 533 00:19:04,611 --> 00:19:06,444 Yes, yay, okay. 534 00:19:06,513 --> 00:19:07,845 I mean, this is sounding good. 535 00:19:07,914 --> 00:19:10,915 It--like, better now, yeah. 536 00:19:10,984 --> 00:19:14,185 - But here's the thing we found that you might not like. 537 00:19:14,254 --> 00:19:15,720 - Oh, gosh. 538 00:19:15,788 --> 00:19:19,023 - When we clicked on that, 539 00:19:19,092 --> 00:19:21,125 look what it says. 540 00:19:21,194 --> 00:19:23,127 - "Married." 541 00:19:23,196 --> 00:19:26,164 - Yes. 542 00:19:26,232 --> 00:19:28,232 - What's--son of a gun. 543 00:19:28,301 --> 00:19:30,501 [laughs] 544 00:19:30,570 --> 00:19:32,069 Ohh. 545 00:19:32,138 --> 00:19:34,539 Wow. 546 00:19:34,607 --> 00:19:38,276 I just don't even know what to think. 547 00:19:38,344 --> 00:19:39,911 I'm speechless. 548 00:19:39,979 --> 00:19:44,081 - For me I feel personally my gut instinct is telling me 549 00:19:44,150 --> 00:19:46,317 that the pictures of the face of the girl that you know 550 00:19:46,386 --> 00:19:49,187 to be Stefany is her. 551 00:19:49,255 --> 00:19:51,422 But there is something in her personal life 552 00:19:51,491 --> 00:19:52,924 that she is not sharing with you, 553 00:19:52,992 --> 00:19:55,293 and maybe it is that she is married. 554 00:19:55,361 --> 00:19:58,696 - ♪ My girl my girl ♪ 555 00:19:58,765 --> 00:20:01,566 ♪ Ain't life a scream? ♪ 556 00:20:01,634 --> 00:20:02,600 - Something's up. 557 00:20:02,669 --> 00:20:05,136 I have no idea what it is. 558 00:20:05,205 --> 00:20:07,905 I--I want it to be her in the pictures. 559 00:20:07,974 --> 00:20:10,141 And want there to be an explanation for all this, 560 00:20:10,210 --> 00:20:12,109 but I can't come up with one right now, and, 561 00:20:12,178 --> 00:20:15,112 like, I can't help but think that the truth 562 00:20:15,181 --> 00:20:19,550 at the end of this may not be what you want. 563 00:20:19,619 --> 00:20:21,652 - ♪ Into your eyes ♪ 564 00:20:21,721 --> 00:20:24,889 ♪ Oh you crucify me ♪ 565 00:20:24,958 --> 00:20:27,758 - With everything you guys have been telling me, 566 00:20:27,827 --> 00:20:30,361 I--I don't think so as well. 567 00:20:30,430 --> 00:20:33,197 Like, I have no idea what to expect anymore. 568 00:20:33,266 --> 00:20:35,433 ♪ ♪ 569 00:20:35,501 --> 00:20:38,669 - ♪ My girl my girl ♪ 570 00:20:38,738 --> 00:20:41,872 ♪ Help me understand ♪ 571 00:20:41,941 --> 00:20:44,208 - I mean, obviously nothing could happen 572 00:20:44,277 --> 00:20:45,576 if she's married. 573 00:20:45,645 --> 00:20:46,877 You guys have my head spinning. 574 00:20:46,946 --> 00:20:51,882 - ♪ Your naked soul ♪ 575 00:20:51,951 --> 00:20:53,517 - Well, like, who am I talking to? 576 00:20:53,586 --> 00:20:58,189 - ♪ Your naked soul ♪ 577 00:21:00,159 --> 00:21:02,293 - Clearly the relationship you have with Stefany is real, 578 00:21:02,362 --> 00:21:06,163 and it appears that she is also real. 579 00:21:06,232 --> 00:21:07,498 - Yeah. 580 00:21:07,567 --> 00:21:09,066 - But one of two things is happening. 581 00:21:09,135 --> 00:21:11,636 She's either not the girl in the pictures she sent you. 582 00:21:11,704 --> 00:21:13,904 Or she could be the girl in the pictures, 583 00:21:13,973 --> 00:21:15,773 but she's married 584 00:21:15,842 --> 00:21:18,209 or has something in her life that she 585 00:21:18,278 --> 00:21:19,543 doesn't want you to know about, 586 00:21:19,612 --> 00:21:21,245 and that's why she's keeping you... 587 00:21:21,314 --> 00:21:22,713 - In the dark. 588 00:21:22,782 --> 00:21:24,482 - In Massachusetts, because if you come down there, 589 00:21:24,550 --> 00:21:28,386 it would complicate things and be a problem. 590 00:21:28,454 --> 00:21:29,820 - [sighs] 591 00:21:29,889 --> 00:21:31,088 It's just--wow. 592 00:21:31,157 --> 00:21:35,960 Everything you showed me, just wow. 593 00:21:36,029 --> 00:21:37,395 [sighs] 594 00:21:37,463 --> 00:21:39,830 - Well, what do you want to do at this point? 595 00:21:39,899 --> 00:21:41,632 - I want to know who she is. 596 00:21:41,701 --> 00:21:43,768 I really want to know now more than ever. 597 00:21:43,836 --> 00:21:46,370 I want to know, is this who I'm talking to 598 00:21:46,439 --> 00:21:49,273 in these pictures for years and years? 599 00:21:49,342 --> 00:21:50,741 I want to know what-- what's going on? 600 00:21:50,810 --> 00:21:51,709 - Right. 601 00:21:51,778 --> 00:21:53,477 Because she has no social media, 602 00:21:53,546 --> 00:21:55,012 and we can't find anything, 603 00:21:55,081 --> 00:21:56,414 the only thing really for us to do at this point 604 00:21:56,482 --> 00:22:00,184 is just reach out to her. 605 00:22:00,253 --> 00:22:01,619 - Yeah. - With your permission, 606 00:22:01,688 --> 00:22:05,089 I think we should call Stefany and see what she says. 607 00:22:05,158 --> 00:22:06,824 - I've exhausted every other option. 608 00:22:07,827 --> 00:22:09,860 - I don't know what else I could do. 609 00:22:09,929 --> 00:22:11,295 - Right. All right. 610 00:22:11,364 --> 00:22:12,697 Should I do it? 611 00:22:12,765 --> 00:22:13,898 - Yeah. 612 00:22:13,966 --> 00:22:16,434 [line trilling] 613 00:22:16,502 --> 00:22:20,204 [tense music] 614 00:22:24,344 --> 00:22:25,976 - Let me text her. "Hey, Stefany. 615 00:22:26,045 --> 00:22:27,378 "This is Nev from 'Catfish.' 616 00:22:27,447 --> 00:22:30,281 "We're trying to help you and Tyler finally 'meet up,' 617 00:22:30,350 --> 00:22:32,383 and we're hoping to speak with you." 618 00:22:32,452 --> 00:22:35,252 - So we'll see if she responds. 619 00:22:35,321 --> 00:22:38,055 [phone dings] - Oh, wait a second. 620 00:22:38,124 --> 00:22:39,490 - Oh, man. 621 00:22:39,559 --> 00:22:40,658 - "I want to meet Tyler, 622 00:22:40,727 --> 00:22:43,260 but I cannot videochat on my phone." 623 00:22:43,329 --> 00:22:44,528 - We know that. 624 00:22:44,597 --> 00:22:45,763 She don't have a smartphone, 625 00:22:45,832 --> 00:22:47,498 but she got access to Pornhub? 626 00:22:47,567 --> 00:22:49,900 From where, her phone, the computer? 627 00:22:49,969 --> 00:22:51,068 - You know what? 628 00:22:51,137 --> 00:22:52,536 I've got a crazy idea that might make 629 00:22:52,605 --> 00:22:53,971 this videochat happen. 630 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,539 This is a first. We've never done this before. 631 00:22:55,608 --> 00:23:00,277 But, "We can overnight a phone to you." 632 00:23:00,346 --> 00:23:03,114 - [gasps] 633 00:23:03,182 --> 00:23:06,350 - I--I don't even know, like these feelings. 634 00:23:06,419 --> 00:23:09,453 My heart's in my stomach. 635 00:23:09,522 --> 00:23:10,921 [phone chimes] 636 00:23:10,990 --> 00:23:13,124 - Oh, she said--whoa. 637 00:23:13,192 --> 00:23:15,326 "Okay." And she sent an address, 638 00:23:15,395 --> 00:23:17,795 but it's in Texas. 639 00:23:17,864 --> 00:23:19,196 - Okay, no. 640 00:23:19,265 --> 00:23:20,331 We're not sending her a [bleep] phone. 641 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,465 She can [bleep] off. 642 00:23:21,534 --> 00:23:25,069 "I thought you were in Tampa." 643 00:23:25,138 --> 00:23:26,036 [phone chimes] 644 00:23:26,105 --> 00:23:27,471 - Is she out of her mind? 645 00:23:27,540 --> 00:23:30,074 - Oh, she's visiting a friend right now in Texas, 646 00:23:30,143 --> 00:23:31,308 and you know that? 647 00:23:31,377 --> 00:23:33,144 - She said her friend was coming to her. 648 00:23:33,212 --> 00:23:36,547 But I never said I knew she was going to Texas. 649 00:23:36,616 --> 00:23:37,882 - What address is that? 650 00:23:37,950 --> 00:23:42,119 - Search it. Search it. 651 00:23:42,188 --> 00:23:44,355 - No name, but it's a house. 652 00:23:44,424 --> 00:23:45,990 Let's just hope that she gets the phone. 653 00:23:46,058 --> 00:23:47,825 If it is her and she's visiting her friend 654 00:23:47,894 --> 00:23:50,928 or she's been in Texas this whole time, I don't know, 655 00:23:52,064 --> 00:23:53,831 she says she want but to talk to youis, 656 00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:54,965 and that the only reason she hasn't is because 657 00:23:55,034 --> 00:23:56,434 she hasn't had the right technology, 658 00:23:56,502 --> 00:23:57,535 so let's give her the technology 659 00:23:57,603 --> 00:23:58,502 and see what happens. 660 00:23:58,571 --> 00:23:59,870 - I mean, I'm ready. 661 00:23:59,939 --> 00:24:00,905 - Get some rest. 662 00:24:00,973 --> 00:24:02,373 Try to clear your head a little bit. 663 00:24:02,442 --> 00:24:04,074 - We'll see what happens tomorrow. 664 00:24:04,143 --> 00:24:05,509 - I'm gonna sleep on this. 665 00:24:05,578 --> 00:24:06,944 I'll talk to you guys tomorrow. 666 00:24:07,013 --> 00:24:07,945 - All right. 667 00:24:08,014 --> 00:24:09,580 - Good night, Tyler. - Good night. 668 00:24:09,649 --> 00:24:10,581 [computer chimes] I don't know. 669 00:24:10,650 --> 00:24:12,483 What do you think? - Uh... 670 00:24:12,552 --> 00:24:13,517 - I mean, look, I feel like sending a phone 671 00:24:13,586 --> 00:24:15,085 is our best option. 672 00:24:15,154 --> 00:24:18,656 And yeah, okay, obviously we might lose a phone. 673 00:24:18,724 --> 00:24:20,925 But if on the off chance she does use it 674 00:24:20,993 --> 00:24:23,727 to talk to us, it will be worth it. 675 00:24:23,796 --> 00:24:25,496 - You sound like every hopeful ever 676 00:24:25,565 --> 00:24:27,498 that has sent a [bleep] phone 677 00:24:27,567 --> 00:24:30,034 or some money for a bus ticket. 678 00:24:30,102 --> 00:24:32,102 Like, "Yeah, you know, worst-case scenario 679 00:24:32,171 --> 00:24:34,538 "they use my money to go do something else. 680 00:24:34,607 --> 00:24:35,606 It's the thought that counts." 681 00:24:35,675 --> 00:24:36,907 No. - Right, well... 682 00:24:36,976 --> 00:24:38,108 - I'm not with it. - It's a risk I'm willing 683 00:24:38,177 --> 00:24:39,376 to take. 684 00:24:39,445 --> 00:24:40,344 - Okay, it's coming out of your check. 685 00:24:40,413 --> 00:24:43,047 - Sure. - [laughs] 686 00:24:43,115 --> 00:24:46,350 - But hopefully it works, she--she talks to us tomorrow, 687 00:24:46,419 --> 00:24:48,586 and Tyler finally finds out 688 00:24:48,654 --> 00:24:51,856 who this woman is. 689 00:24:51,924 --> 00:24:52,957 - Good night. 690 00:24:53,025 --> 00:24:55,259 [computer chimes] 691 00:24:55,328 --> 00:24:56,894 - I'm feeling really scared right now. 692 00:24:56,963 --> 00:24:59,263 I don't know what to expect. 693 00:24:59,332 --> 00:25:00,965 I have no idea what to expect. 694 00:25:01,033 --> 00:25:03,400 I just really hope I can finally get 695 00:25:03,469 --> 00:25:06,937 to the bottom of this and figure this out. 696 00:25:07,006 --> 00:25:09,573 [gentle music] 697 00:25:09,642 --> 00:25:11,375 [phone ringing] 698 00:25:11,444 --> 00:25:12,576 - Tyler? 699 00:25:15,014 --> 00:25:16,180 - I haven't looked at the phone. 700 00:25:16,249 --> 00:25:18,382 I actually just got-- I just got to the office. 701 00:25:25,892 --> 00:25:27,091 - Give me a minute to think about it, 702 00:25:27,159 --> 00:25:28,993 and then I'll call you back. 703 00:25:29,061 --> 00:25:30,761 - All right. 704 00:25:30,830 --> 00:25:31,829 - Well, that was unexpected. 705 00:25:31,898 --> 00:25:35,633 Wasn't ready for that, but okay. 706 00:25:35,701 --> 00:25:37,368 [computer chimes] 707 00:25:37,436 --> 00:25:38,769 There she is. 708 00:25:38,838 --> 00:25:40,504 So Tyler FaceTimed me. 709 00:25:40,573 --> 00:25:42,339 So I guess texted him and basically said, 710 00:25:42,408 --> 00:25:43,574 "Hey, I got the phone," 711 00:25:43,643 --> 00:25:45,042 "and I want to Facetime with you. 712 00:25:45,111 --> 00:25:46,744 "I just don't want to do it today on the show. 713 00:25:46,812 --> 00:25:48,846 Can we do it tomorrow not on the show?" 714 00:25:48,915 --> 00:25:50,948 - No, because the phone expires. 715 00:25:51,017 --> 00:25:55,419 The phone will dissipate like "Avengers: Endgame." 716 00:25:55,488 --> 00:25:57,054 - Anyway, Tyler's freaked. 717 00:25:57,123 --> 00:25:58,322 He wasn't sure what to say to her. 718 00:25:58,391 --> 00:25:59,657 I told him just to wait 719 00:25:59,725 --> 00:26:01,759 and I would get back to him soon. 720 00:26:01,827 --> 00:26:04,194 So let me text him. 721 00:26:04,263 --> 00:26:05,262 [computer chimes] 722 00:26:05,331 --> 00:26:07,331 both: Oh. - Here he comes. 723 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,566 - Hello. 724 00:26:08,634 --> 00:26:10,200 How are you doing? 725 00:26:10,269 --> 00:26:12,102 - Extremely nervous honestly. 726 00:26:12,171 --> 00:26:15,239 - I just don't believe that she'll FaceTime you tomorrow. 727 00:26:15,308 --> 00:26:17,808 - Right. I'm on the same boat as that as well, you know. 728 00:26:17,877 --> 00:26:19,543 Like, I've been doing this for two years with her. 729 00:26:19,612 --> 00:26:20,911 - Right. - We've been talking, 730 00:26:20,980 --> 00:26:23,747 and then it just, "Oh, no. Let's do it tomorrow." 731 00:26:23,816 --> 00:26:25,215 And it's, like, what? - Mm-hmm. 732 00:26:25,284 --> 00:26:28,786 I'm sure it's disappointing to see that over the course 733 00:26:28,854 --> 00:26:32,556 of two years she's had excuses as to why she can't even 734 00:26:32,625 --> 00:26:34,692 just show her face to you. 735 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,828 And now she doesn't have an excuse of... 736 00:26:37,897 --> 00:26:38,929 - Right. - "Oh, I don't have 737 00:26:38,998 --> 00:26:40,464 a smartphone; I can't videochat." 738 00:26:40,533 --> 00:26:44,768 She has it in her hands, and she's still trying to delay it. 739 00:26:44,837 --> 00:26:47,071 - Yeah, like, I still have all these feelings, 740 00:26:48,307 --> 00:26:51,141 I don't see these feelings going away anytime soon. 741 00:26:51,210 --> 00:26:53,444 And then but it's, like, what are you hiding? 742 00:26:53,512 --> 00:26:55,846 - Right. Maybe if you're willing 743 00:26:55,915 --> 00:27:01,552 to actually tell her that today is her last chance, 744 00:27:01,621 --> 00:27:03,954 and then if she doesn't videochat with you today 745 00:27:04,023 --> 00:27:06,323 you're not gonna talk to her anymore. 746 00:27:06,392 --> 00:27:07,925 - Okay. 747 00:27:07,994 --> 00:27:11,128 I should just put the foot down really and just, you know, 748 00:27:11,197 --> 00:27:12,696 I need to give her that ultimatum. 749 00:27:12,765 --> 00:27:13,797 - Let's do it. - Yeah. 750 00:27:13,866 --> 00:27:15,199 - And just say, like, "Look, 751 00:27:15,267 --> 00:27:16,433 "I'm not putting myself through this anymore. 752 00:27:16,502 --> 00:27:17,601 "This isn't fair to me. 753 00:27:17,670 --> 00:27:21,572 You agreed to do this, so let's do it." 754 00:27:21,641 --> 00:27:24,708 - Okay. 755 00:27:24,777 --> 00:27:26,276 - "I don't think this is fair. 756 00:27:26,345 --> 00:27:29,279 "If you don't want to do this today, that's your choice. 757 00:27:29,348 --> 00:27:31,115 "But I can't wait any longer." 758 00:27:31,183 --> 00:27:32,216 Nice. Send away. 759 00:27:32,284 --> 00:27:34,184 - Okay, here goes nothing. 760 00:27:34,253 --> 00:27:35,152 [phone chimes] 761 00:27:35,221 --> 00:27:36,387 Whew. 762 00:27:36,455 --> 00:27:37,788 - [clapping] 763 00:27:37,857 --> 00:27:40,090 - Ohh. - Good job. 764 00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:41,458 - Ay-yi-yi. 765 00:27:41,527 --> 00:27:44,862 - I mean, she says that she's "with a friend in Texas," 766 00:27:44,930 --> 00:27:48,932 but what if she's at her husband's house 767 00:27:49,001 --> 00:27:51,101 and that's why she can't videochat? 768 00:27:52,038 --> 00:27:53,404 [computer chimes] - Heboth: Oh.ows? 769 00:27:53,472 --> 00:27:54,772 - Hey. Holy [bleep]. 770 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,874 - "I'm honestly not scared, Tyler. 771 00:27:56,942 --> 00:27:58,375 "I know you love me no matter what. 772 00:27:58,444 --> 00:28:00,110 "If you really want to do this on the show, 773 00:28:00,179 --> 00:28:00,944 "I'll do it for you. 774 00:28:01,013 --> 00:28:02,646 It's time you know the truth." 775 00:28:02,715 --> 00:28:04,281 - The truth. What does that mean? 776 00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:05,549 - What truth? 777 00:28:05,618 --> 00:28:06,750 What are you talking about, what truth? 778 00:28:06,819 --> 00:28:07,885 - Yeah, I mean, who knows? 779 00:28:07,953 --> 00:28:09,286 I feel like we've got her right now. 780 00:28:09,355 --> 00:28:10,921 She says she wants to do it. 781 00:28:10,990 --> 00:28:12,623 You should respond and say, "Great," like... 782 00:28:12,692 --> 00:28:15,225 - Pop in. Send the link. 783 00:28:15,294 --> 00:28:17,561 [tense music] 784 00:28:17,630 --> 00:28:18,829 [phone chimes] 785 00:28:18,898 --> 00:28:20,764 - Ohh. [chuckles] 786 00:28:20,833 --> 00:28:24,268 - Now we just wait. 787 00:28:24,336 --> 00:28:26,103 And hopefully she'll join. 788 00:28:26,172 --> 00:28:28,839 - Is she married, and does she have kids? 789 00:28:28,908 --> 00:28:31,141 I mean, I'm just really nervous. 790 00:28:31,210 --> 00:28:32,076 [computer chimes] 791 00:28:32,144 --> 00:28:34,378 - Oh. 792 00:28:35,514 --> 00:28:36,914 - Is she married, and does she have kids? 793 00:28:36,982 --> 00:28:41,218 I mean, I'm just really nervous. 794 00:28:41,287 --> 00:28:45,122 [computer chimes] 795 00:28:45,191 --> 00:28:46,223 - Hello. 796 00:28:46,292 --> 00:28:47,624 - Hi. 797 00:28:47,693 --> 00:28:50,094 - Hello. 798 00:28:50,162 --> 00:28:51,228 - You're Stefany. 799 00:28:51,297 --> 00:28:53,630 - Yes, ma'am. 800 00:28:53,699 --> 00:28:56,066 - Nice to meet you. I'm Kamie. 801 00:28:56,135 --> 00:28:58,302 - Nice to meet you too. 802 00:28:58,370 --> 00:29:01,271 [tense music] 803 00:29:01,340 --> 00:29:03,507 - I don't know what to say. 804 00:29:03,576 --> 00:29:06,310 I mean, it's obviously not you in the pictures. 805 00:29:06,378 --> 00:29:08,378 - No. 806 00:29:08,447 --> 00:29:10,214 ♪ ♪ 807 00:29:10,282 --> 00:29:11,615 - So, Stefany, 808 00:29:11,684 --> 00:29:14,451 you sent Tyler a bunch of photos 809 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,919 of another woman. 810 00:29:15,988 --> 00:29:17,488 - Yes. 811 00:29:17,556 --> 00:29:19,123 - Where did you get these pictures from? 812 00:29:19,191 --> 00:29:20,357 - Facebook. 813 00:29:20,426 --> 00:29:21,759 - Do you know who this woman is? 814 00:29:21,827 --> 00:29:24,428 - No. 815 00:29:24,497 --> 00:29:26,230 - Okay, you also uploaded videos. 816 00:29:26,298 --> 00:29:28,198 Were those videos someone else? 817 00:29:28,267 --> 00:29:29,533 - Someone else. 818 00:29:29,602 --> 00:29:31,802 - But your name is Stefany. 819 00:29:31,871 --> 00:29:33,103 - Yes, sir. 820 00:29:33,172 --> 00:29:34,938 - You are 35. 821 00:29:35,007 --> 00:29:36,039 - Yes, sir. 822 00:29:36,108 --> 00:29:38,142 - Have you ever been or are you married? 823 00:29:38,210 --> 00:29:41,645 - No, never. 824 00:29:41,714 --> 00:29:43,013 Never been married. 825 00:29:43,082 --> 00:29:44,481 - Got it. Okay. 826 00:29:44,550 --> 00:29:46,150 And why are you in Texas again? 827 00:29:46,218 --> 00:29:48,619 - I'm helping out my friend right now. 828 00:29:48,687 --> 00:29:50,587 - Okay, so you do live in Florida. 829 00:29:50,656 --> 00:29:52,523 - Yes, I do live in Florida. 830 00:29:52,591 --> 00:29:55,325 - So some of the times that Tyler had inquired 831 00:29:55,394 --> 00:29:57,127 about coming to visit you, you said you couldn't, 832 00:29:57,196 --> 00:29:59,429 'cause your parents were sick, or was that all true? 833 00:29:59,498 --> 00:30:02,633 - Yeah. Yes, yes, very true. 834 00:30:02,701 --> 00:30:05,068 - Seems to me you're talking to us on a laptop. 835 00:30:05,137 --> 00:30:06,336 - Yes. 836 00:30:06,405 --> 00:30:09,273 - You said you didn't have a way to talk to us, 837 00:30:09,341 --> 00:30:10,607 which is why we sent you a phone. 838 00:30:10,676 --> 00:30:12,109 Why lie about that? 839 00:30:12,178 --> 00:30:13,844 - 'Cause I was scared. 840 00:30:13,913 --> 00:30:15,412 - Okay. 841 00:30:15,481 --> 00:30:16,680 - Where's the phone? 842 00:30:16,749 --> 00:30:18,882 - The phone is in my purse. 843 00:30:18,951 --> 00:30:20,450 - Now you've got a free phone. 844 00:30:20,519 --> 00:30:21,585 Are you sending it back? 845 00:30:21,654 --> 00:30:23,353 - Yeah, I'll send it back. 846 00:30:23,422 --> 00:30:26,557 - Well, and there were ways you could have videochatted... 847 00:30:26,625 --> 00:30:27,958 - Yes. - With Tyler, right. 848 00:30:28,027 --> 00:30:30,027 - Yes. - Right, so that wasn't true. 849 00:30:30,095 --> 00:30:32,229 - Everything that I've ever told him, 850 00:30:32,298 --> 00:30:35,699 everything I've ever told him is 100% the truth. 851 00:30:35,768 --> 00:30:37,334 I have never lied to him about anything. 852 00:30:37,403 --> 00:30:39,870 He knows everything. 853 00:30:39,939 --> 00:30:42,840 And I never would lie to him ever. 854 00:30:42,908 --> 00:30:44,174 - Except about the computer and the phone. 855 00:30:44,243 --> 00:30:46,176 - About the pictures, yes, and the computer. 856 00:30:46,245 --> 00:30:47,344 - And the pictures. 857 00:30:47,413 --> 00:30:49,012 - Yes. 858 00:30:49,081 --> 00:30:52,182 - I just--I just wish you could have told me the truth, 859 00:30:52,251 --> 00:30:54,218 like, years ago. 860 00:30:54,286 --> 00:30:55,519 It's just like... 861 00:30:55,588 --> 00:30:57,821 - Why even make a Pornhub account? 862 00:30:57,890 --> 00:31:01,058 What was the point? 863 00:31:01,126 --> 00:31:03,527 - It started out 'cause I just wanted to watch videos. 864 00:31:03,596 --> 00:31:08,065 And I just talked to a couple of guys here and there. 865 00:31:08,133 --> 00:31:12,069 - So were you looking for some kind of 866 00:31:12,137 --> 00:31:15,539 particular interaction with people? 867 00:31:15,608 --> 00:31:17,407 - Yeah, they were saying that I was pretty, 868 00:31:17,476 --> 00:31:20,510 and they liked my butt. 869 00:31:20,579 --> 00:31:22,246 - I'm sure that felt good to hear. 870 00:31:22,314 --> 00:31:23,847 - It did. It did. 871 00:31:23,916 --> 00:31:27,050 'Cause I haven't heard it in a very, very, very, very, 872 00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:28,185 very long time. 873 00:31:28,254 --> 00:31:29,419 - Did you also feel... 874 00:31:29,488 --> 00:31:31,588 - Bad. - Weird about that? Yeah. 875 00:31:31,657 --> 00:31:32,789 'Cause it wasn't you. 876 00:31:32,858 --> 00:31:34,358 - Yeah, I felt bad. 877 00:31:34,426 --> 00:31:36,760 I always felt bad. 878 00:31:36,829 --> 00:31:38,896 - So, Stefany, do you talk to other guys, 879 00:31:38,964 --> 00:31:40,197 or have you talked to other guys? 880 00:31:40,266 --> 00:31:43,734 - I stopped as soon as me and him started talking. 881 00:31:43,802 --> 00:31:46,970 I've never, ever wanted to hurt him ever. 882 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:49,606 I love him with all my heart. 883 00:31:49,675 --> 00:31:51,275 [gentle music] 884 00:31:51,343 --> 00:31:53,443 - Then why did you feel like you had to lie to me for, 885 00:31:53,512 --> 00:31:54,945 like, two years? 886 00:31:55,014 --> 00:31:56,647 - I... 887 00:31:56,715 --> 00:32:00,284 never thought 888 00:32:00,352 --> 00:32:03,320 that I would find somebody on Pornhub 889 00:32:03,389 --> 00:32:07,024 that I would have such a strong connection with. 890 00:32:07,092 --> 00:32:10,494 I went to tell you a lot of times, 891 00:32:10,562 --> 00:32:12,963 a lot of times 892 00:32:13,032 --> 00:32:14,932 that I wasn't the girl in the pictures. 893 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,333 But then there's that-- 894 00:32:16,402 --> 00:32:18,769 that little thought in the back of your head. 895 00:32:18,837 --> 00:32:20,871 "You're not pretty enough. You're not skinny enough. 896 00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:22,139 "You're not good enough. 897 00:32:22,207 --> 00:32:24,274 You're never gonna find somebody who loves you." 898 00:32:24,343 --> 00:32:25,943 And then you start to second-guess yourself, 899 00:32:26,011 --> 00:32:27,344 and you just back out. 900 00:32:27,413 --> 00:32:30,881 - I would think that out of all of the platforms 901 00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:32,616 that there are to meet people 902 00:32:32,685 --> 00:32:35,686 Pornhub is a place that has something 903 00:32:35,754 --> 00:32:37,421 for literally everyone. 904 00:32:37,489 --> 00:32:39,222 I know that for a fact that they have content 905 00:32:39,291 --> 00:32:42,993 for women that look all different kinds of ways. 906 00:32:43,062 --> 00:32:44,828 - Yeah. - So why not put yourself 907 00:32:44,897 --> 00:32:48,098 out there as yourself? 908 00:32:48,167 --> 00:32:51,001 - 'Cause I've been told so many times I'm not pretty, 909 00:32:51,070 --> 00:32:54,705 you know, so it's like, "Okay, if I'm not pretty, 910 00:32:54,773 --> 00:32:57,040 then what do I do?" 911 00:32:57,109 --> 00:32:59,242 - So sounds like your feels for Tyler 912 00:32:59,311 --> 00:33:01,745 are real. 913 00:33:01,814 --> 00:33:03,180 s. 914 00:33:03,248 --> 00:33:04,281 I love him. 915 00:33:04,350 --> 00:33:06,383 He makes me smile. 916 00:33:06,452 --> 00:33:08,652 ♪ ♪ 917 00:33:08,721 --> 00:33:13,123 I get butterflies when we talk. 918 00:33:13,192 --> 00:33:17,627 'Cause Tyler helped me get out of a very dark place I was in. 919 00:33:17,696 --> 00:33:21,298 I got hurt a lot, a lot. 920 00:33:21,367 --> 00:33:24,334 And a couple of my ex-boyfriends hit me. 921 00:33:24,403 --> 00:33:27,838 So that made me feel like I wasn't good. 922 00:33:27,906 --> 00:33:33,143 And then I had a lot of death in my family. 923 00:33:33,212 --> 00:33:35,912 So it was just, like, one thing after another 924 00:33:35,981 --> 00:33:38,849 after another after another after another. 925 00:33:38,917 --> 00:33:41,485 And I just went down this dark place. 926 00:33:41,553 --> 00:33:45,756 And I thought about suicide. 927 00:33:45,824 --> 00:33:47,524 - Yeah, we've--we've talked about that before 928 00:33:47,593 --> 00:33:50,961 with each other, and, like, I love-- 929 00:33:51,030 --> 00:33:52,763 I love our conversations with each other, 930 00:33:52,831 --> 00:33:55,332 and you felt them so much as well. 931 00:33:55,401 --> 00:33:57,334 - Yeah. 932 00:33:57,403 --> 00:33:59,936 - But you also know that you're the only woman 933 00:34:00,005 --> 00:34:02,606 that he's trusted in a really, really long time... 934 00:34:02,674 --> 00:34:04,975 - Yeah, I know that. - And that his last experience 935 00:34:05,044 --> 00:34:07,711 with trusting a girlfriend, 936 00:34:07,780 --> 00:34:10,714 someone that he loves, 937 00:34:10,783 --> 00:34:12,916 ended really, really badly for him. 938 00:34:12,985 --> 00:34:14,785 - Yeah, I know. 939 00:34:14,853 --> 00:34:17,921 - You had to have known that this would break his heart... 940 00:34:17,990 --> 00:34:19,089 - I did. - To think that you were 941 00:34:19,158 --> 00:34:22,059 lying to him about anything. 942 00:34:22,127 --> 00:34:23,860 Whether or not he chooses to forgive you or not, 943 00:34:23,929 --> 00:34:26,530 you had to have known that this moment for him 944 00:34:26,598 --> 00:34:28,765 would be bad. 945 00:34:28,834 --> 00:34:30,333 - Hard. Yeah, I knew. 946 00:34:30,402 --> 00:34:34,037 - Tyler, Stefany is obviously putting her feelings 947 00:34:34,106 --> 00:34:37,007 out there, but I don't really think it's clear 948 00:34:37,076 --> 00:34:39,976 where your head or heart is at right now. 949 00:34:40,045 --> 00:34:41,978 I guess, is there hope of making this work? 950 00:34:42,047 --> 00:34:45,148 [tense music] 951 00:34:45,217 --> 00:34:47,684 ♪ ♪ 952 00:34:49,088 --> 00:34:51,054 - Tyler, Stefany is obviously putting her feelings 953 00:34:51,123 --> 00:34:52,823 out there. 954 00:34:52,891 --> 00:34:55,225 Is there hope of making this work? 955 00:34:55,294 --> 00:34:58,428 [tense music] 956 00:34:58,497 --> 00:35:02,299 - [inhales and exhales] 957 00:35:02,367 --> 00:35:03,533 I'm just really shaky right now. 958 00:35:03,602 --> 00:35:05,368 I really need a break. 959 00:35:05,437 --> 00:35:07,671 ♪ ♪ 960 00:35:07,739 --> 00:35:09,272 [computer chimes] 961 00:35:09,341 --> 00:35:11,408 - All right, look, Stefany, hang out for a minute. 962 00:35:11,477 --> 00:35:13,510 Let's take a quick break so that we can regroup. 963 00:35:13,579 --> 00:35:14,845 We'll get Tyler quickly back, 964 00:35:14,913 --> 00:35:16,613 and we'll bring you back in, and we'll-- 965 00:35:16,682 --> 00:35:20,350 we'll sort of figure out how this chapter ends. 966 00:35:20,419 --> 00:35:22,352 - Yeah. - All right, we'll speak to you 967 00:35:22,421 --> 00:35:24,020 in a minute. 968 00:35:24,089 --> 00:35:27,224 [tense music] 969 00:35:27,292 --> 00:35:28,592 [computer chimes] 970 00:35:28,660 --> 00:35:30,026 - [sighs] Hey, guys. 971 00:35:30,095 --> 00:35:33,830 - You were pretty quiet, but I know you have thoughts. 972 00:35:33,899 --> 00:35:35,732 - 'Cause it's [bleep] up that she just lied to me 973 00:35:35,801 --> 00:35:37,167 the whole time. - Right. 974 00:35:37,236 --> 00:35:38,468 - It's really [bleep] up. 975 00:35:38,537 --> 00:35:42,639 And--and this is why I don't trust people. 976 00:35:42,708 --> 00:35:45,275 This is why I am-- this is who-- 977 00:35:45,344 --> 00:35:47,377 that's why I am who I am. 978 00:35:47,446 --> 00:35:50,680 - Well, outside of the lies, do you still feel 979 00:35:50,749 --> 00:35:53,183 as attracted to Stefany as you did before? 980 00:35:53,252 --> 00:35:56,219 [gentle music] 981 00:35:56,288 --> 00:35:57,587 ♪ ♪ 982 00:35:57,656 --> 00:36:01,024 - What's really [bleep] with me is just the lies. 983 00:36:01,093 --> 00:36:03,160 I've always told you I don't care, like, 984 00:36:03,228 --> 00:36:04,261 what you look like. 985 00:36:04,329 --> 00:36:05,428 It's not about your damn looks. 986 00:36:05,497 --> 00:36:09,099 Like, I can't stress that enough. 987 00:36:09,168 --> 00:36:11,868 But it's, like, why the [bleep] are you lying 988 00:36:11,937 --> 00:36:15,572 for two [bleep] years, and then I'm just over here 989 00:36:15,641 --> 00:36:16,973 and just sitting in the dark, 990 00:36:17,042 --> 00:36:18,808 and then I have to go through all these hoops 991 00:36:18,877 --> 00:36:21,244 just to finally see you when... - Right. 992 00:36:21,313 --> 00:36:24,414 - You've just been lying about even your goddamn phone? 993 00:36:24,483 --> 00:36:26,716 - Right. - It's just things are tough. 994 00:36:26,785 --> 00:36:28,718 Things are really tough right now. 995 00:36:28,787 --> 00:36:30,487 I love talking to her. 996 00:36:30,556 --> 00:36:32,422 I love that. 997 00:36:32,491 --> 00:36:34,424 I love that connection we do have. 998 00:36:34,493 --> 00:36:36,393 - Do you still like the idea of 999 00:36:36,461 --> 00:36:39,396 being in a relationship with her? 1000 00:36:39,464 --> 00:36:43,266 - It's--that's something I just need to think about. 1001 00:36:43,335 --> 00:36:46,870 I just feel stupid if I keep talking to her, you know? 1002 00:36:46,939 --> 00:36:48,471 I don't know, and I feel like 1003 00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:50,440 I'd be such a [bleep] fool to be like, 1004 00:36:50,509 --> 00:36:52,809 "Oh, you lied to me for two years. 1005 00:36:52,878 --> 00:36:55,145 You know, it's fine, you know." 1006 00:36:55,214 --> 00:36:58,415 - Every relationship people have highs and lows 1007 00:36:58,483 --> 00:36:59,916 with the way that they feel about themselves 1008 00:36:59,985 --> 00:37:02,619 and their self-confidence, but it's been two years 1009 00:37:02,688 --> 00:37:06,022 of you validating this person, 1010 00:37:06,091 --> 00:37:09,159 and they still could not be completely honest with you. 1011 00:37:09,228 --> 00:37:12,596 - Yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying too. 1012 00:37:12,664 --> 00:37:15,432 - We'll bring her back in, and we'll let her know 1013 00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:18,969 how it's gonna be. 1014 00:37:19,037 --> 00:37:21,638 - Okay. 1015 00:37:21,707 --> 00:37:24,307 [tense music] 1016 00:37:24,376 --> 00:37:27,944 [computer chimes] 1017 00:37:28,013 --> 00:37:29,479 - Hey. 1018 00:37:29,548 --> 00:37:32,282 - Hello. 1019 00:37:32,351 --> 00:37:36,152 - So, I mean, you know I don't care about, like, looks. 1020 00:37:36,221 --> 00:37:37,821 You know that. - I know. 1021 00:37:37,889 --> 00:37:39,656 - I really love talking to you. 1022 00:37:39,725 --> 00:37:41,992 Like, every--I mean, every--you know, 1023 00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:45,161 we basically talk, like, every single night. 1024 00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:46,696 And I love it. 1025 00:37:46,765 --> 00:37:50,367 You know, I've--me and you can talk about anything. 1026 00:37:50,435 --> 00:37:53,470 We talk about the craziest goddamn [bleep] in the world. 1027 00:37:53,538 --> 00:37:55,238 And I always feel so open with you. 1028 00:37:56,475 --> 00:38:00,477 - You know, I would never-- I never lied to you. 1029 00:38:00,545 --> 00:38:03,580 And what's been going on is, 1030 00:38:03,649 --> 00:38:07,584 you lied to me for two years. 1031 00:38:07,653 --> 00:38:09,753 - Yeah. - I just feel unappreciated 1032 00:38:09,821 --> 00:38:12,155 really, and I'd feel stupid if we, 1033 00:38:12,224 --> 00:38:14,224 like, continued to keep talking. 1034 00:38:14,293 --> 00:38:16,326 I need time to think. 1035 00:38:16,395 --> 00:38:20,430 You know with everything that I've been through, 1036 00:38:20,499 --> 00:38:22,799 and it's--I don't know. 1037 00:38:22,868 --> 00:38:25,001 It just doesn't seem fair to me. 1038 00:38:25,070 --> 00:38:29,673 - I know, and I'm sorry, truly. 1039 00:38:29,741 --> 00:38:34,311 I know what I did was effed up, 1040 00:38:34,379 --> 00:38:37,580 totally effed up. 1041 00:38:37,649 --> 00:38:40,417 As much as I've worked on the physical, 1042 00:38:40,485 --> 00:38:44,321 I've been trying to lose weight. 1043 00:38:44,389 --> 00:38:46,056 - Good for you. 1044 00:38:46,124 --> 00:38:48,925 - I know I still need to work on the psychological. 1045 00:38:48,994 --> 00:38:51,561 And I will give you as much space as you need 1046 00:38:51,630 --> 00:38:54,064 for as long as you need. 1047 00:38:54,132 --> 00:38:55,465 - Okay. 1048 00:38:55,534 --> 00:38:57,634 - He might not come back. 1049 00:38:57,703 --> 00:39:01,471 - I know, and that's my fault. 1050 00:39:01,540 --> 00:39:05,642 And I'll-- I'll keep trying. 1051 00:39:05,711 --> 00:39:08,144 I will, 'cause I love him. 1052 00:39:08,213 --> 00:39:10,213 ♪ ♪ 1053 00:39:10,282 --> 00:39:12,882 He is the best thing that's ever happened to me-- 1054 00:39:12,951 --> 00:39:16,319 everything good to me, 1055 00:39:16,388 --> 00:39:21,324 and now this is my price that I have to pay. 1056 00:39:21,393 --> 00:39:23,993 ♪ ♪ 1057 00:39:24,062 --> 00:39:27,630 And I understand that, and I'm--I'm okay. 1058 00:39:27,699 --> 00:39:31,668 Like, I'll be okay. 1059 00:39:31,737 --> 00:39:34,170 - [sighs] 1060 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,238 - Well, then I think, you know, 1061 00:39:35,307 --> 00:39:38,308 now this is a good place just to leave it. 1062 00:39:38,377 --> 00:39:42,078 Tyler, are you okay? 1063 00:39:42,147 --> 00:39:44,114 - Yeah. 1064 00:39:44,182 --> 00:39:48,017 - All right, well, then I think we'll say goodbye. 1065 00:39:48,086 --> 00:39:49,719 - Okay. 1066 00:39:49,788 --> 00:39:51,154 - All right, Stefany, thank you. 1067 00:39:51,223 --> 00:39:52,856 Nice to meet you. 1068 00:39:52,924 --> 00:39:54,157 - Nice to meet you guys too. 1069 00:39:54,226 --> 00:39:57,527 - And good luck on your continued journey... 1070 00:39:57,596 --> 00:39:58,795 - Thank you. - And hopeful path 1071 00:39:58,864 --> 00:40:00,363 toward happiness. 1072 00:40:00,432 --> 00:40:01,831 - Good luck, - All right, take--take care. 1073 00:40:01,900 --> 00:40:03,333 - Thank you. - All right, guys. 1074 00:40:03,402 --> 00:40:04,801 I'll see ya. 1075 00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:05,869 - Thanks, Tyler. - Ciao. 1076 00:40:05,937 --> 00:40:07,737 - Later, buddy. - Good luck. 1077 00:40:07,806 --> 00:40:08,838 - Thank you. - Bye. 1078 00:40:08,907 --> 00:40:09,973 [computer chimes] 1079 00:40:10,041 --> 00:40:12,809 - [sighs] Well... 1080 00:40:12,878 --> 00:40:14,878 - I hope that when we talk to him again 1081 00:40:14,946 --> 00:40:16,613 they're still talking. 1082 00:40:16,681 --> 00:40:18,648 - I kind of do too. 1083 00:40:18,717 --> 00:40:20,650 - All right. - Another "Catfish" case 1084 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,587 closed. 1085 00:40:24,656 --> 00:40:26,089 - Boom. 1086 00:40:26,158 --> 00:40:29,292 [Tom Bromley's "This Empty Heart"] 1087 00:40:29,361 --> 00:40:34,664 - ♪ If I wake up here next to you ♪ 1088 00:40:34,733 --> 00:40:36,800 ♪ ♪ 1089 00:40:36,868 --> 00:40:40,537 ♪ Is it only worth it if it hurts? ♪ 1090 00:40:40,605 --> 00:40:47,744 ♪ ♪ 1091 00:40:55,921 --> 00:40:56,853 - Three years ago, Courtney met Chris, 1092 00:40:56,922 --> 00:40:59,622 who lived in Turkey, online. 1093 00:40:59,691 --> 00:41:00,557 - Oh, I'm in love with him. 1094 00:41:00,625 --> 00:41:01,791 - Have you sent gifts? 1095 00:41:01,860 --> 00:41:04,327 - I've sent around a grand. 1096 00:41:04,396 --> 00:41:05,562 - Courtney. 1097 00:41:05,630 --> 00:41:07,764 - Why is this guy cloaking his identity 1098 00:41:07,833 --> 00:41:09,232 not just from her but from everyone? 1099 00:41:09,301 --> 00:41:10,800 - Oh, my God. 1100 00:41:10,869 --> 00:41:12,202 - I can hear you. 1101 00:41:12,270 --> 00:41:13,169 - What is happening?