1 00:00:01,268 --> 00:00:02,401 - Eric and Lianna had been talking, 2 00:00:02,470 --> 00:00:03,936 and he fell hard for her. 3 00:00:04,005 --> 00:00:07,339 - I opened up to you, and, like, who the hell are you? 4 00:00:07,408 --> 00:00:10,743 - She stood you up three times. 5 00:00:12,013 --> 00:00:14,146 then she comes at you - E from someone else.her, 6 00:00:14,215 --> 00:00:15,347 - Yeah. 7 00:00:15,416 --> 00:00:16,315 - At what point does it become-- 8 00:00:16,384 --> 00:00:17,583 - Harassing? - Yeah. 9 00:00:17,651 --> 00:00:19,318 - Oh. She's typing. - [gasps] 10 00:00:19,387 --> 00:00:21,153 Ahh! 11 00:00:21,222 --> 00:00:23,889 [dramatic musical sting] 12 00:00:23,958 --> 00:00:26,558 [upbeat music] 13 00:00:26,627 --> 00:00:27,760 - ♪ Seeing is believing ♪ 14 00:00:27,828 --> 00:00:31,463 - Back to business. 15 00:00:31,532 --> 00:00:34,066 - Hello. - Hey. There she is. 16 00:00:34,135 --> 00:00:36,668 Whoa. Your braids, wow. 17 00:00:36,737 --> 00:00:38,837 - It's a cultural reset... - I love it. 18 00:00:38,906 --> 00:00:40,439 - Is what it is honestly. 19 00:00:40,508 --> 00:00:43,409 - Anyway, I have to make sure we stay on schedule today 20 00:00:43,477 --> 00:00:46,278 because right after we film, I have to go rehearse 21 00:00:46,347 --> 00:00:48,113 for "Dancing with the Stars." 22 00:00:48,182 --> 00:00:49,548 I got to learn my dance. 23 00:00:49,617 --> 00:00:51,183 - Are you going to show me some dance moves or what? 24 00:00:51,252 --> 00:00:52,851 - I'll show you, like, a little bit 25 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,253 of what I learned yesterday. It's all about, like, 26 00:00:54,321 --> 00:00:56,622 bah, bah, you know, it's, like, 27 00:00:56,690 --> 00:00:59,058 it's that cha-cha-cha, cha-cha-cha. 28 00:00:59,126 --> 00:01:00,259 - Wow. 29 00:01:00,327 --> 00:01:02,094 - And then you hit, and then you do, 30 00:01:02,163 --> 00:01:03,729 like a rond de jambe, ball change. 31 00:01:03,798 --> 00:01:06,498 It's really--it's hard. - A rond de jambe? 32 00:01:06,567 --> 00:01:07,633 The terminology. 33 00:01:07,701 --> 00:01:10,035 [laughs] 34 00:01:10,104 --> 00:01:13,105 - Anyway, so let's get into this. 35 00:01:13,174 --> 00:01:15,040 We got an email from Eric. 36 00:01:15,109 --> 00:01:16,108 "Hey, Nev and Kamie. 37 00:01:16,177 --> 00:01:17,609 "My name is Eric. 38 00:01:17,678 --> 00:01:20,712 "I'm 29, and I live in Buffalo, New York, 39 00:01:21,782 --> 00:01:23,816 "I'm a full-time dad, so I haven't been 40 00:01:23,884 --> 00:01:25,818 "in any serious relationships for a while, 41 00:01:25,886 --> 00:01:28,854 "but I have been talking to this girl named Lianna 42 00:01:28,923 --> 00:01:30,622 "for the past five months. 43 00:01:31,092 --> 00:01:32,758 "She friended me out of the blue. 44 00:01:32,827 --> 00:01:35,360 "She was really cute, so I messaged her, 45 00:01:35,429 --> 00:01:36,929 "and we started talking. 46 00:01:36,997 --> 00:01:40,632 "She's super sexy but mainly a really good listener. 47 00:01:40,701 --> 00:01:43,902 "She actually cares about what's going on in my life. 48 00:01:43,971 --> 00:01:45,637 "I honestly haven't had a connection like this 49 00:01:45,706 --> 00:01:48,173 in a while, so I was excited for it." 50 00:01:48,242 --> 00:01:52,111 - ♪ Gravity has caught up to me ♪ 51 00:01:52,179 --> 00:01:53,779 "I fell hard for her. 52 00:01:53,848 --> 00:01:56,248 "She was everything I was looking for. 53 00:01:56,317 --> 00:01:58,817 I tried to meet her multiple times, 54 00:01:58,886 --> 00:02:01,453 "but she stood me up every time. 55 00:02:01,522 --> 00:02:03,322 "I suggested we video chat, 56 00:02:03,390 --> 00:02:04,990 but that hasn't happened either." 57 00:02:05,059 --> 00:02:09,328 - ♪ Because I don't want to fall from the great height ♪ 58 00:02:09,396 --> 00:02:12,030 - "Then her friend got involved, 59 00:02:12,099 --> 00:02:13,832 "and it was really weird. 60 00:02:13,901 --> 00:02:16,435 "This girl is making it impossible to get together 61 00:02:16,504 --> 00:02:18,137 or for me to move on." 62 00:02:18,205 --> 00:02:19,404 - ♪ She's a killer ♪ 63 00:02:19,473 --> 00:02:20,405 - "We're still talking." 64 00:02:20,474 --> 00:02:22,107 - ♪ Psycho vanilla ♪ 65 00:02:22,176 --> 00:02:25,110 - "But I need to find out what her deal is once and for all." 66 00:02:25,179 --> 00:02:27,312 - ♪ Lead role in my dreams ♪ 67 00:02:27,381 --> 00:02:28,814 - "She's driving me crazy." 68 00:02:28,883 --> 00:02:30,315 - ♪ Because I don't want to fall ♪ 69 00:02:30,384 --> 00:02:31,416 ♪ From the great heights ♪ 70 00:02:31,485 --> 00:02:33,051 - "Thanks for your help, Eric." 71 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,656 - ♪ But my grip is failing ♪ 72 00:02:37,725 --> 00:02:40,859 - All right. I've texted Eric. 73 00:02:40,928 --> 00:02:42,161 - It's the friend. 74 00:02:42,229 --> 00:02:44,763 - Well, yeah, I mean, anytime a catfish has a friend 75 00:02:44,832 --> 00:02:49,501 that comes into the situation, you got to be suspicious. 76 00:02:49,570 --> 00:02:51,203 - I guess we have to find out. 77 00:02:51,272 --> 00:02:52,437 [computer chimes] both: Oh. 78 00:02:52,506 --> 00:02:56,275 - I heard a ding. - Hello! 79 00:02:56,343 --> 00:02:58,010 - What's happening? - How you doing, Eric? 80 00:02:58,078 --> 00:03:00,379 You said you have a kid, right? How old is your kid? 81 00:03:00,447 --> 00:03:02,247 - He just turned ten on the 10th. 82 00:03:02,316 --> 00:03:03,582 - Wow. - Ohh. 83 00:03:03,651 --> 00:03:04,983 - He stays with you full-time? 84 00:03:05,052 --> 00:03:07,853 - Yeah. Me and his mom, we co-parent very well. 85 00:03:07,922 --> 00:03:09,955 She's very a part of his life every day, 86 00:03:10,024 --> 00:03:11,356 so we do it together. 87 00:03:11,425 --> 00:03:13,892 - That's great. So we saw your email. 88 00:03:13,961 --> 00:03:15,861 Tell us more about Lianna. 89 00:03:15,930 --> 00:03:17,029 Is that how she says it? 90 00:03:17,097 --> 00:03:18,297 - Yes, it is. 91 00:03:18,365 --> 00:03:20,666 She's a hairstylist. She's 24. 92 00:03:20,734 --> 00:03:23,202 She's from New Hampshire, which matches her number, 93 00:03:23,270 --> 00:03:25,537 because her number is a New Hampshire number. 94 00:03:25,606 --> 00:03:27,039 - Does she live in New Hampshire? 95 00:03:27,107 --> 00:03:28,807 Or does she live in Buffalo? - She lives in Buffalo. 96 00:03:28,876 --> 00:03:31,577 She's been here about a year and a half now she told me. 97 00:03:31,645 --> 00:03:34,012 - How did you meet? - She added me on Facebook. 98 00:03:34,081 --> 00:03:35,514 I went right ahead and messaged her, 99 00:03:35,583 --> 00:03:37,216 and she was gorgeous, so, like, why not? 100 00:03:37,284 --> 00:03:39,384 She messaged me back and said, "Oh, I thought you were cute. 101 00:03:39,453 --> 00:03:41,787 Sorry." So from there, I knew I was in. 102 00:03:41,855 --> 00:03:43,722 - Did you have mutual friends or anything? 103 00:03:43,791 --> 00:03:46,592 - We had a few, like, 12 or something. 104 00:03:46,660 --> 00:03:49,027 - Do any of your friends actually know her? 105 00:03:49,096 --> 00:03:50,429 - No, I've asked. 106 00:03:50,497 --> 00:03:52,030 - Okay, so you did ask. Okay. 107 00:03:52,099 --> 00:03:53,365 So you messaged her, and then how, like, what-- 108 00:03:53,434 --> 00:03:54,866 how did that go? 109 00:03:54,935 --> 00:03:56,702 - Probably within a couple days, I had her number. 110 00:03:56,770 --> 00:03:58,737 We started having phone calls. 111 00:03:58,806 --> 00:04:00,038 - And how were your phone calls? 112 00:04:00,107 --> 00:04:02,040 - They were actually pretty captivating. 113 00:04:02,109 --> 00:04:04,643 Like, a lot of what she does is family orientated. 114 00:04:04,712 --> 00:04:06,678 You know, she's real involved with her family, 115 00:04:06,747 --> 00:04:09,982 and I told her about my son, told her about my work. 116 00:04:10,050 --> 00:04:12,317 We shared some things about our lives with each other. 117 00:04:12,386 --> 00:04:16,221 She had a way of, like, just making me think differently. 118 00:04:16,290 --> 00:04:19,524 She really got into, like, me thinking my future 119 00:04:19,593 --> 00:04:20,525 and what I'm trying to do, 120 00:04:20,594 --> 00:04:22,594 and she was just very supportive. 121 00:04:22,663 --> 00:04:24,663 I feel like she's a good soul. 122 00:04:24,732 --> 00:04:27,466 I was easily able to connect with her, 123 00:04:27,534 --> 00:04:30,168 and it's weird, because usually I don't even 124 00:04:30,237 --> 00:04:31,803 open up like that to people. 125 00:04:31,872 --> 00:04:34,806 - Yeah, and it was a girl's voice. 126 00:04:34,875 --> 00:04:37,809 - Yes, yes. It was a girl's voice for sure. 127 00:04:37,878 --> 00:04:40,412 Within about two weeks of talking to her, 128 00:04:40,481 --> 00:04:42,214 I wanted to meet up. 129 00:04:42,283 --> 00:04:43,582 The plan was for her to come over, 130 00:04:43,651 --> 00:04:44,716 and then we were going to go out to Delaware Park. 131 00:04:44,785 --> 00:04:45,884 - So she had your address. 132 00:04:45,953 --> 00:04:49,855 - Yes, and then poof, just gone. 133 00:04:49,923 --> 00:04:52,491 After, like, two hours of waiting, she just blocked me. 134 00:04:52,559 --> 00:04:53,925 - Hmm. - Hmm. 135 00:04:53,994 --> 00:04:55,827 - But you guys did obviously start talking again, 136 00:04:55,896 --> 00:04:58,530 so how did she come back from that? 137 00:04:58,599 --> 00:05:00,165 What was her, like-- 138 00:05:00,234 --> 00:05:01,433 - She unblocked me, 139 00:05:01,502 --> 00:05:02,734 because she had reached out to me again 140 00:05:02,803 --> 00:05:04,903 saying she was sorry and giving me 141 00:05:04,972 --> 00:05:06,838 an explanation for what had happened, 142 00:05:06,907 --> 00:05:09,675 something about her mom, you know, her mom was sick. 143 00:05:09,743 --> 00:05:11,877 She needed to go over there and take care of that. 144 00:05:11,945 --> 00:05:13,378 - She didn't know her mom was sick 145 00:05:13,447 --> 00:05:14,913 before she made plans to come over? 146 00:05:14,982 --> 00:05:16,782 - Exactly. - Right. 147 00:05:16,850 --> 00:05:18,550 - So you guys start talking again. 148 00:05:18,619 --> 00:05:20,519 Was there another plan to meet up again? 149 00:05:20,587 --> 00:05:22,721 - Yeah. - And what happened this time? 150 00:05:22,790 --> 00:05:24,623 - You know, she's getting ready, 151 00:05:24,692 --> 00:05:26,291 da-da-da-da-da, we're good. 152 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,727 I'm like, "What's your ETA?" And she's like, "10 minutes," 153 00:05:28,796 --> 00:05:30,829 and then boom, her phone goes off, 154 00:05:30,898 --> 00:05:33,031 and I don't hear from her for like a week. 155 00:05:33,100 --> 00:05:35,334 - So she ghosted you again. - Yes. 156 00:05:35,402 --> 00:05:39,705 - And yet somehow you're still involved with this woman. 157 00:05:39,773 --> 00:05:41,540 - That's where Maria comes into play. 158 00:05:41,608 --> 00:05:44,176 - That's Lianna's friend you mentioned. Maria. 159 00:05:44,244 --> 00:05:46,044 - Maria. 160 00:05:46,113 --> 00:05:48,580 - After the second time, I block Lianna. 161 00:05:48,649 --> 00:05:50,048 So about a week goes by. 162 00:05:50,117 --> 00:05:52,384 I start messaging with this girl, Maria, online. 163 00:05:52,453 --> 00:05:54,286 - She messages you first? 164 00:05:54,355 --> 00:05:56,088 - No, it was me. I messaged her. 165 00:05:56,156 --> 00:05:58,724 - How did you find her? - I just happened to see her 166 00:05:58,792 --> 00:06:01,093 as people I should know, and I added it. 167 00:06:01,161 --> 00:06:02,260 - Mm. 168 00:06:02,329 --> 00:06:03,995 - She immediately brought up Lianna 169 00:06:04,064 --> 00:06:06,398 and that she can't talk to me, because she knows Lianna, 170 00:06:06,467 --> 00:06:07,766 and she wouldn't do that to Lianna. 171 00:06:07,835 --> 00:06:09,101 - I mean, if she's friends with Lianna, 172 00:06:09,169 --> 00:06:11,436 it would make sense that she might pop up 173 00:06:11,505 --> 00:06:13,271 on the people you may know. - Yeah. 174 00:06:13,340 --> 00:06:15,807 She was trying to tell me to give Lianna another chance. 175 00:06:15,876 --> 00:06:18,243 - It's weird. Had Maria friended you, I would be like, 176 00:06:18,312 --> 00:06:20,245 "Oh, Maria and Lianna are the same person." 177 00:06:20,314 --> 00:06:21,680 - Yeah. 178 00:06:21,749 --> 00:06:23,382 - But the fact that you friended her...strange. 179 00:06:23,450 --> 00:06:25,450 - So what happened after that? 180 00:06:25,519 --> 00:06:26,852 - Maria said, "Okay, I'm coming to Buffalo. 181 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,520 I'm going to bring Lianna to you." 182 00:06:28,589 --> 00:06:30,756 I unblock Lianna, and we made plans. 183 00:06:30,824 --> 00:06:32,824 Maria was going to drop her off at my house. 184 00:06:32,893 --> 00:06:35,894 The day comes. These girls are on their way, 185 00:06:35,963 --> 00:06:38,663 and she says that Maria pulled over, 186 00:06:38,732 --> 00:06:40,232 because she was fighting with her boyfriend. 187 00:06:40,300 --> 00:06:41,666 So Lianna says, "Listen. 188 00:06:41,735 --> 00:06:43,635 I'm just gonna walk to you." 189 00:06:43,704 --> 00:06:44,736 I went outside, and I looked both ways. 190 00:06:44,805 --> 00:06:46,338 And I didn't see her anywhere. 191 00:06:46,407 --> 00:06:49,274 So I went back inside, and then I didn't even call her, 192 00:06:49,343 --> 00:06:50,375 and she didn't even call me. 193 00:06:50,444 --> 00:06:51,777 - Wow. 194 00:06:51,845 --> 00:06:55,680 - So please tell me you have not talked to her since. 195 00:06:55,749 --> 00:06:57,916 - She contacted me about a month ago, 196 00:06:57,985 --> 00:07:00,352 and I kind of fell right back into it to be honest. 197 00:07:00,421 --> 00:07:04,556 - She stood you up three times. 198 00:07:04,625 --> 00:07:06,057 - Yeah. 199 00:07:06,126 --> 00:07:08,427 You know, she was saying she'd give me another chance. 200 00:07:08,495 --> 00:07:11,329 So at that point, like, I did invest time into you, 201 00:07:11,398 --> 00:07:13,231 and, like, I told her some things that, like, 202 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:15,600 I don't want to have to tell another girl, you know? 203 00:07:15,669 --> 00:07:16,935 - Sure. - Like, it's comforting. 204 00:07:17,004 --> 00:07:18,370 - Yeah. - So, like, you're coming to me 205 00:07:18,439 --> 00:07:19,738 with your boo-hoos and your sorries, 206 00:07:19,807 --> 00:07:22,441 and yes, you're adorable, so okay, fine. 207 00:07:22,509 --> 00:07:23,909 - So you like the chase. - I do. 208 00:07:23,977 --> 00:07:26,178 I do definitely enjoy chase. 209 00:07:27,347 --> 00:07:29,347 Like, for some reason, I feel, like, drawn. 210 00:07:29,416 --> 00:07:30,715 - So let's see this girl. 211 00:07:30,784 --> 00:07:32,918 Can you plug your phone in and show us her profile? 212 00:07:32,986 --> 00:07:34,152 - Okay. Hold on. 213 00:07:34,221 --> 00:07:35,754 Okay. You guys have my screen now, right? 214 00:07:35,823 --> 00:07:38,490 - Yeah. - Yeah. 215 00:07:38,559 --> 00:07:39,591 - Oh. Whoa. - Whoa. 216 00:07:39,660 --> 00:07:43,361 - Hey. Oh, my goodness. - [laughs] 217 00:07:43,430 --> 00:07:45,096 Couldn't you give a warning 218 00:07:45,499 --> 00:07:48,166 before you show full vag, please? 219 00:07:48,235 --> 00:07:49,734 Would be great. 220 00:07:49,803 --> 00:07:51,570 - Sorry, bro. - I see. 221 00:07:51,638 --> 00:07:53,538 Steamy. Okay. 222 00:07:53,607 --> 00:07:55,540 - All right. So there she is looking cute. 223 00:07:55,609 --> 00:07:56,575 - You want me to just flip through them? 224 00:07:56,643 --> 00:07:59,244 - Yeah, you could swipe. - Yeah. 225 00:07:59,313 --> 00:08:00,912 - Okay. Cute. 226 00:08:00,981 --> 00:08:02,647 - Okay. It's going to get graphic. 227 00:08:02,716 --> 00:08:05,350 Go quick. Go quick. - Okay. 228 00:08:05,419 --> 00:08:06,451 - Quick. - Okay. 229 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,155 - Whoa. - Ah! 230 00:08:10,224 --> 00:08:12,023 - [laughs] 231 00:08:12,092 --> 00:08:15,060 [laughter] 232 00:08:15,128 --> 00:08:16,862 - There's a first for everything on this show. 233 00:08:16,930 --> 00:08:18,730 I love it. - Lord. 234 00:08:18,799 --> 00:08:20,732 - You really sent her multiple angles. 235 00:08:20,801 --> 00:08:23,134 - [coughs] - [laughs] 236 00:08:23,203 --> 00:08:24,569 - Okay, Eric. 237 00:08:24,638 --> 00:08:26,838 - Now, that was an experience. 238 00:08:26,907 --> 00:08:28,507 Can you go back to your text messages? 239 00:08:28,575 --> 00:08:30,842 And I just want to see how you guys interact with each other. 240 00:08:30,911 --> 00:08:33,078 - Okay. - You guys talk pretty often. 241 00:08:33,146 --> 00:08:34,145 - Oh. 242 00:08:34,214 --> 00:08:36,081 - This is the last time she said, 243 00:08:36,149 --> 00:08:37,415 "I'm going to come with Maria, and we're going to see you." 244 00:08:37,484 --> 00:08:39,184 "What is a good time for us to visit?" 245 00:08:39,253 --> 00:08:41,052 "At 4 we can do something." "Okay. Sounds good. See you." 246 00:08:41,121 --> 00:08:43,655 Now that's 5:00. Already she's an hour late. 247 00:08:43,724 --> 00:08:45,624 We are leaving in a few. "She had to tell her man 248 00:08:45,692 --> 00:08:47,592 "where she was going and took him home. 249 00:08:47,661 --> 00:08:49,094 "I'm not flaking. I'm actually excited. 250 00:08:49,162 --> 00:08:50,595 I'm going to be there in, like, 25 minutes." 251 00:08:50,664 --> 00:08:52,664 Now it's 6:46. 252 00:08:52,733 --> 00:08:55,066 "Right down the street. I'm walking. 253 00:08:55,135 --> 00:08:57,102 "I'm going to hug you and wrap my legs around you, 254 00:08:57,170 --> 00:08:58,637 and I'm not wearing underwear." 255 00:08:58,705 --> 00:09:00,372 Is this how she talks on the phone? 256 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,575 - No, you know what? She's not really like this on the phone. 257 00:09:03,644 --> 00:09:05,210 - So you were like, "Where are you?" 258 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:06,945 And she said, "Up the street. You should see me walking." 259 00:09:07,014 --> 00:09:08,580 - But you would have seen her coming down the street. 260 00:09:08,649 --> 00:09:10,649 - Yeah. - And then nothing. 261 00:09:10,717 --> 00:09:11,716 She just disappeared for the night. 262 00:09:11,785 --> 00:09:13,018 Unbelievable. 263 00:09:13,086 --> 00:09:14,786 - She obviously was never there. 264 00:09:14,855 --> 00:09:16,154 - That's how I feel. 265 00:09:16,223 --> 00:09:18,290 - Something is definitely going on with this chick. 266 00:09:18,358 --> 00:09:20,992 - Honestly, if that's not her, 267 00:09:21,061 --> 00:09:23,061 I'm going to feel violated, you know? 268 00:09:23,130 --> 00:09:25,330 I opened up to you, and, like, you're-- 269 00:09:25,399 --> 00:09:26,498 Who the hell are you? 270 00:09:26,567 --> 00:09:30,201 - Wow. Okay. Well, now I need to know. 271 00:09:30,270 --> 00:09:32,837 - Send us her phone number. Send us her Facebook page. 272 00:09:32,906 --> 00:09:34,172 - Not the [bleep] pics. 273 00:09:34,241 --> 00:09:35,941 I don't know if Google image search 274 00:09:36,009 --> 00:09:38,410 will get us the correct results. 275 00:09:38,478 --> 00:09:39,945 - [laughs] 276 00:09:40,013 --> 00:09:41,346 - Let us do some digging, see what we can find 277 00:09:41,415 --> 00:09:43,014 and hopefully get a little bit closer 278 00:09:43,083 --> 00:09:46,818 to figuring out what is going on with this Lianna lady. 279 00:09:46,887 --> 00:09:48,987 - All right. Thank you, guys. - Good to meet you, man. 280 00:09:49,056 --> 00:09:51,423 - Nice to meet you guys too. Bye. 281 00:09:51,491 --> 00:09:53,692 - Something is wrong. That whole walking, 282 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,694 I'm walking, I'm walking now, 283 00:09:55,762 --> 00:09:58,196 I am on your street, the balls. 284 00:09:58,265 --> 00:10:00,065 - I know. - Who is this person? 285 00:10:00,133 --> 00:10:01,399 - I don't know. We got to figure it out. 286 00:10:01,468 --> 00:10:03,602 - She can't keep toying with people this way. 287 00:10:03,670 --> 00:10:06,204 We've got to stop her. 288 00:10:07,107 --> 00:10:09,040 [funky percussive music] 289 00:10:09,109 --> 00:10:11,476 - So we got an interesting situation here. 290 00:10:11,545 --> 00:10:12,644 Eric and Lianna had been talking 291 00:10:12,713 --> 00:10:14,613 for a little over six months now. 292 00:10:14,681 --> 00:10:17,649 It looks like a cut-and-dry catfish situation. 293 00:10:17,718 --> 00:10:19,618 - Mm-hmm. - She friended him on Facebook. 294 00:10:19,686 --> 00:10:21,353 He thought she was cute. They started chatting. 295 00:10:21,421 --> 00:10:24,189 She says, "I'll meet up with you," disappears. 296 00:10:24,257 --> 00:10:27,859 And then he sent, like, five dick pics, like, 297 00:10:27,928 --> 00:10:29,694 at the same time. - Different angles. 298 00:10:29,763 --> 00:10:31,296 He was like, "This angle. 299 00:10:31,365 --> 00:10:32,864 This angle. This angle." 300 00:10:32,933 --> 00:10:36,501 - He did, like, the 360, like, full... 301 00:10:36,570 --> 00:10:38,436 - [laughs] 302 00:10:38,505 --> 00:10:40,171 A virtual tour. 303 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,073 - All right. So let's see what we got here, 304 00:10:42,142 --> 00:10:45,243 because I'm ready to crack this case wide open. 305 00:10:45,312 --> 00:10:46,645 So he sent me an email. 306 00:10:46,713 --> 00:10:48,279 "Hey, guys, this is a little the info I have." 307 00:10:48,348 --> 00:10:52,283 It's a Lianna Bressca, phone number, Facebook page, 308 00:10:52,352 --> 00:10:54,419 and then Maria Camsso. 309 00:10:54,488 --> 00:10:56,187 Okay. And then the pictures. 310 00:10:56,256 --> 00:10:57,489 So let's-- I kind of just want to start 311 00:10:57,557 --> 00:10:59,090 with the pictures if that's okay? 312 00:10:59,159 --> 00:11:00,992 All right, so I'm going to start with this pic. 313 00:11:01,061 --> 00:11:04,062 [tense music] 314 00:11:04,131 --> 00:11:07,666 No hit. All right. Next pic. 315 00:11:07,734 --> 00:11:09,567 All right. Again no hit on this. 316 00:11:09,636 --> 00:11:11,403 Man, no hits. 317 00:11:11,471 --> 00:11:13,905 All right, and the last one. 318 00:11:13,974 --> 00:11:15,206 Oh! 319 00:11:15,275 --> 00:11:16,608 We got a hit. - [gasps] 320 00:11:16,677 --> 00:11:18,043 - ♪ We got a hit ♪ 321 00:11:18,111 --> 00:11:18,910 ♪ We got a hit ♪ 322 00:11:18,979 --> 00:11:20,779 - Oh, my God. Click it. 323 00:11:20,847 --> 00:11:22,580 - I can't believe on the last one. 324 00:11:22,649 --> 00:11:24,049 - Click it. 325 00:11:24,117 --> 00:11:26,351 - All right, let's check this out. 326 00:11:26,420 --> 00:11:27,318 Oh. 327 00:11:27,387 --> 00:11:29,287 - Ahh! 328 00:11:29,356 --> 00:11:31,122 - Why are there so much vagina in this episode? 329 00:11:31,191 --> 00:11:32,323 - I don't know. - And another penis. 330 00:11:32,392 --> 00:11:33,992 What is going on? 331 00:11:34,061 --> 00:11:37,462 - I'm--I'm done. Listen. I'm open to a lot of things. 332 00:11:37,531 --> 00:11:39,064 - Here it is. Look. Here it is. 333 00:11:39,132 --> 00:11:40,031 That's her. 334 00:11:40,100 --> 00:11:41,700 - [gasps] 335 00:11:41,768 --> 00:11:43,101 - That is her. 336 00:11:43,170 --> 00:11:45,770 Kayala [bleep]. "In your dreams, bitch." 337 00:11:45,839 --> 00:11:48,807 Ooh, what's this? Who is this Kayala [bleep]? 338 00:11:48,875 --> 00:11:50,375 - [gasps] 339 00:11:50,444 --> 00:11:51,710 - Oh, God. It's this thing again. 340 00:11:51,778 --> 00:11:53,378 - Again with the vagina. 341 00:11:53,447 --> 00:11:57,649 Please, can we get a vagina alert chime? 342 00:11:57,718 --> 00:11:58,983 - Oh, wait a second. 343 00:11:59,052 --> 00:12:01,653 Oh, it wants to download something. 344 00:12:01,722 --> 00:12:04,389 - "Teen with big tits craving for [bleep]." 345 00:12:04,458 --> 00:12:05,690 Get off of this [bleep]. 346 00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:08,560 We're going to get a [bleep] virus. 347 00:12:08,628 --> 00:12:11,062 But that name. - Kayala [bleep]. 348 00:12:11,131 --> 00:12:12,897 Let's look that up. 349 00:12:12,966 --> 00:12:14,032 ♪ ♪ 350 00:12:14,101 --> 00:12:15,400 There's a Twitter. 351 00:12:15,469 --> 00:12:20,138 - Her name seems to be to be Kayala [bleep]. 352 00:12:20,207 --> 00:12:23,341 - Okay. Here's her Twitter. SpongeBob. 353 00:12:23,410 --> 00:12:24,909 -It's different than the link. 354 00:12:24,978 --> 00:12:29,214 She changed her name from Kayala [bleep] to kprincess. 355 00:12:29,282 --> 00:12:31,382 - It's private. 356 00:12:31,451 --> 00:12:33,351 Let's check out her mentions. 357 00:12:33,420 --> 00:12:34,786 - What are these conversations? 358 00:12:34,855 --> 00:12:37,088 - "Send me your addy." 359 00:12:38,325 --> 00:12:40,725 I mean, so okay, so whatever she's posting, 360 00:12:40,794 --> 00:12:43,128 it's obviously of very sexual nature. 361 00:12:43,196 --> 00:12:45,296 This definitely feels very, like, 362 00:12:45,365 --> 00:12:48,466 camgirl, OnlyFans vibe-y. 363 00:12:48,535 --> 00:12:50,769 - But you wouldn't put that as your picture. 364 00:12:50,837 --> 00:12:53,238 - SpongeBob? - You would have a real photo. 365 00:12:53,306 --> 00:12:55,440 Who's going to [bleep] pay for that? 366 00:12:55,509 --> 00:12:59,177 - Let's search for kprincess. 367 00:12:59,246 --> 00:13:00,612 - Oh. - Oh. 368 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:01,846 - Oh, jackpot. 369 00:13:01,915 --> 00:13:03,114 - There's an Instagram. 370 00:13:03,183 --> 00:13:06,951 SpongeBob. Again with the fake avatar and... 371 00:13:07,020 --> 00:13:09,020 - I can't. 372 00:13:09,089 --> 00:13:10,522 - Obviously someone is associated 373 00:13:10,590 --> 00:13:12,524 with those profiles, goes by Kayala, 374 00:13:12,592 --> 00:13:14,058 but that doesn't necessarily mean that she's the girl 375 00:13:14,127 --> 00:13:15,226 in the pictures. 376 00:13:15,295 --> 00:13:16,895 Is someone stealing her photos 377 00:13:16,963 --> 00:13:20,565 and using them on this weird Tumblr or something? 378 00:13:20,634 --> 00:13:22,801 But let's run the phone number... 379 00:13:22,869 --> 00:13:25,270 - Yeah. - And see if that comes back 380 00:13:25,338 --> 00:13:27,572 to anything. 381 00:13:27,641 --> 00:13:30,441 - Maybe to a Kayala. 382 00:13:30,510 --> 00:13:32,377 - Kalynn? - Kalynn? 383 00:13:32,445 --> 00:13:33,645 - Kalynn [bleep]. 384 00:13:33,713 --> 00:13:36,881 - Also known as Kalynn Marie. 385 00:13:36,950 --> 00:13:38,082 - Marie. 386 00:13:38,151 --> 00:13:40,852 Very similar to Lianna's friend, Maria. 387 00:13:40,921 --> 00:13:41,920 - Mm. 388 00:13:41,988 --> 00:13:43,555 - All right. Let's check this out. 389 00:13:43,623 --> 00:13:46,324 Oh, yeah, and look, a Facebook page. 390 00:13:46,393 --> 00:13:47,959 [tense music] 391 00:13:48,028 --> 00:13:49,194 - Oh, SpongeBob. 392 00:13:49,262 --> 00:13:53,231 Kayala had SpongeBob as her avatars, didn't she? 393 00:13:53,300 --> 00:13:55,166 Yeah, see, SpongeBob. 394 00:13:55,235 --> 00:13:56,634 It's her. 395 00:13:56,703 --> 00:13:58,970 - It's definitely not the girl in the pictures. 396 00:13:59,039 --> 00:14:01,573 So for the phone number that he's been speaking 397 00:14:01,641 --> 00:14:02,774 to Lianna on, 398 00:14:02,843 --> 00:14:04,209 it comes back to this girl, Kalynn. 399 00:14:04,277 --> 00:14:08,813 She's 29, and we found a weird connection 400 00:14:08,882 --> 00:14:12,383 between our likely other fake profiles 401 00:14:12,452 --> 00:14:15,687 associated with the images of Lianna 402 00:14:15,755 --> 00:14:18,122 but under another name, Kayala. 403 00:14:18,191 --> 00:14:19,457 - Mm-hmm. 404 00:14:19,526 --> 00:14:21,559 - Which is similar to Kalynn, 405 00:14:21,628 --> 00:14:24,062 and there's a SpongeBob connection. 406 00:14:24,130 --> 00:14:26,764 Is Kalynn taking pictures of this other girl 407 00:14:26,833 --> 00:14:28,533 and making all these fake profiles? 408 00:14:28,602 --> 00:14:30,735 - This can't be a coincidence. 409 00:14:30,804 --> 00:14:32,637 - She is our prime suspect. 410 00:14:32,706 --> 00:14:34,305 Let's go to Lianna's Facebook page 411 00:14:34,374 --> 00:14:35,840 and just take a look at it. All right. 412 00:14:35,909 --> 00:14:38,209 So there's not a lot on here that we can see. 413 00:14:38,278 --> 00:14:40,044 2,000 friends. 414 00:14:40,113 --> 00:14:41,646 - She's friends with a lot of guys. 415 00:14:41,715 --> 00:14:43,248 - Like, there's so many guys. 416 00:14:43,316 --> 00:14:45,984 I wonder if she's talking to any of these other guys. 417 00:14:46,052 --> 00:14:49,053 Yeah, let's message this guy. 418 00:14:52,592 --> 00:14:54,759 Sent. I mean, there's also-- 419 00:14:54,828 --> 00:14:56,661 let's just check out Maria's Facebook page. 420 00:14:56,730 --> 00:15:00,265 So this is Lianna's friend that Eric was also talking to. 421 00:15:00,700 --> 00:15:03,234 Okay. Here's Maria. - Mm. 422 00:15:03,303 --> 00:15:05,536 - Because this could be a fake page too. 423 00:15:05,605 --> 00:15:07,305 - True. - Right? 424 00:15:07,374 --> 00:15:09,007 - She's friends with a lot of guys, 425 00:15:09,075 --> 00:15:11,409 and so is the Lianna account. 426 00:15:11,478 --> 00:15:13,845 - Check this out. There's even more comments, right? 427 00:15:13,914 --> 00:15:15,880 I've seen the guy, like, Andy [bleep] 428 00:15:15,949 --> 00:15:18,182 kind of comments with the most consistency. 429 00:15:18,251 --> 00:15:19,250 Let's message him. 430 00:15:21,755 --> 00:15:23,187 Okay. Sent. Ooh, look at this. 431 00:15:23,256 --> 00:15:25,990 This guy Danny wrote, "Mine" with a heart, 432 00:15:26,059 --> 00:15:29,160 and then she wrote back, "Always" hearts. 433 00:15:30,030 --> 00:15:33,331 Let's send him a message. 434 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:34,766 Sent. 435 00:15:34,834 --> 00:15:37,101 - This is supposed to be the girl who had a boyfriend 436 00:15:37,170 --> 00:15:40,305 when she was driving Lianna to come and see Eric? 437 00:15:40,373 --> 00:15:42,874 - I mean, maybe Danny is her boyfriend, 438 00:15:42,943 --> 00:15:45,843 but it feels like what we're dealing with here 439 00:15:45,912 --> 00:15:48,646 is some bull[bleep]. 440 00:15:48,715 --> 00:15:51,649 - I'm going go out there on a limb that Eric 441 00:15:51,718 --> 00:15:54,752 is not talking to the girl in the pictures whatsoever. 442 00:15:54,821 --> 00:15:56,754 This is somebody completely different, 443 00:15:56,823 --> 00:16:00,458 and I think that whoever this person is, 444 00:16:00,527 --> 00:16:01,793 they're also Maria. 445 00:16:01,861 --> 00:16:04,329 Clearly this person doesn't want to be found. 446 00:16:04,397 --> 00:16:05,797 - Are these both fake, 447 00:16:05,865 --> 00:16:07,065 and are they both run by the same person? 448 00:16:07,133 --> 00:16:09,300 And is that person Kalynn? 449 00:16:09,369 --> 00:16:10,835 It just feels like this is going to go 450 00:16:10,904 --> 00:16:13,705 from private parts to broken hearts. 451 00:16:13,773 --> 00:16:15,707 ♪ ♪ 452 00:16:17,243 --> 00:16:18,209 - Good morning, everyone, again 453 00:16:18,278 --> 00:16:22,046 from me and the Smalls. 454 00:16:22,115 --> 00:16:23,581 Biggie, guess what. 455 00:16:23,650 --> 00:16:26,317 Today I went outside. 456 00:16:26,386 --> 00:16:28,219 I got some treats. 457 00:16:28,288 --> 00:16:29,654 He's like, "How could you? 458 00:16:29,723 --> 00:16:31,356 You did all these things without me?" 459 00:16:31,424 --> 00:16:34,425 No, don't leave. You want a treat? 460 00:16:34,494 --> 00:16:36,027 Let's get a treat. Yeah. 461 00:16:36,096 --> 00:16:37,628 [laughs] 462 00:16:37,697 --> 00:16:39,197 Where is Nev? 463 00:16:39,265 --> 00:16:40,264 [phone dings] 464 00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:43,368 We have things to do. 465 00:16:43,436 --> 00:16:44,869 [computer chimes] 466 00:16:44,938 --> 00:16:46,237 Yo. 467 00:16:46,306 --> 00:16:48,339 [computer chimes] 468 00:16:48,408 --> 00:16:51,642 - So let's check and see if-- 469 00:16:51,711 --> 00:16:53,644 - Because you messaged a lot of people yesterday. 470 00:16:53,713 --> 00:16:55,913 - Ooh, one message from Danny Brooklyn. 471 00:16:55,982 --> 00:16:57,415 - He was the one talking to Maria 472 00:16:57,484 --> 00:16:58,850 like he's her boyfriend. 473 00:16:58,918 --> 00:17:00,918 He basically says, "Yes, you can talk to me," 474 00:17:00,987 --> 00:17:02,220 but he didn't give his number or anything, 475 00:17:02,288 --> 00:17:04,756 so let's message him quickly and just say, 476 00:17:04,824 --> 00:17:09,293 "Hello. Thanks for getting back to me. 477 00:17:09,362 --> 00:17:10,895 Here's my number." 478 00:17:10,964 --> 00:17:13,664 Okay. Sent. Let me text Eric and see where he's at. 479 00:17:13,733 --> 00:17:15,833 - I think he's still holding out hope that, like, 480 00:17:15,902 --> 00:17:18,036 this girl actually cares about him, 481 00:17:18,104 --> 00:17:22,473 and maybe she does, but it's not looking great. 482 00:17:26,146 --> 00:17:28,112 - Hey! - Hello. 483 00:17:29,149 --> 00:17:30,681 - Hey, Eric. - How you doing, man? What's going on? 484 00:17:30,750 --> 00:17:32,450 - I had a rough start to my day. 485 00:17:32,519 --> 00:17:34,318 Like, I threw up this morning. 486 00:17:34,387 --> 00:17:36,421 - Is it, like, anxiety? - Yep. 487 00:17:36,489 --> 00:17:38,489 Honestly, I'm still conflicted on, 488 00:17:38,558 --> 00:17:39,957 you know, if it's real or not. 489 00:17:40,026 --> 00:17:42,326 If everything checks out, I want to see her. 490 00:17:42,395 --> 00:17:44,662 You know, I want to pursue this. 491 00:17:44,731 --> 00:17:46,564 - All right. Well, look, yesterday 492 00:17:46,633 --> 00:17:47,765 we did the best we could. 493 00:17:47,834 --> 00:17:49,867 We found a lot of stuff. 494 00:17:49,936 --> 00:17:51,302 - Okay. 495 00:17:51,371 --> 00:17:53,738 - We searched as many photos of her that we could find, 496 00:17:53,807 --> 00:17:56,474 and one of them shows up on this website. 497 00:17:56,543 --> 00:17:58,076 It's called Tumbral. 498 00:17:58,144 --> 00:17:59,911 It's not Tumblr, but it's called Tumbral, 499 00:17:59,979 --> 00:18:03,147 and it seems to sort of aggregate different 500 00:18:03,216 --> 00:18:04,849 Tumblr pictures. 501 00:18:04,918 --> 00:18:07,518 I'm not really sure what to make of it, but clearly it's... 502 00:18:07,587 --> 00:18:09,153 - Lianna. 503 00:18:09,222 --> 00:18:10,955 - So we followed these links to see where they took us, 504 00:18:11,024 --> 00:18:13,858 and, Kamie, I know you need the warning, 505 00:18:13,927 --> 00:18:15,693 but there is some graphic content. 506 00:18:15,762 --> 00:18:17,228 - Thank you. - So just prepare yourself. 507 00:18:17,297 --> 00:18:19,197 You can see the picture is here, 508 00:18:19,265 --> 00:18:21,766 and I'll scroll up just so you can get a sense. 509 00:18:21,835 --> 00:18:23,701 There's pictures of other body parts 510 00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:25,236 and things of that nature. 511 00:18:25,305 --> 00:18:27,972 - Ohh, I saw it anyway. 512 00:18:28,041 --> 00:18:31,542 - And so it's weird, because why is her picture 513 00:18:31,611 --> 00:18:34,712 on what appears to be some sort of 514 00:18:34,781 --> 00:18:38,716 amateur porn Tumblr page. 515 00:18:38,785 --> 00:18:40,952 There is one comment from Kayala [bleep]. 516 00:18:41,020 --> 00:18:43,054 She says, "In your dreams, bitch." 517 00:18:43,123 --> 00:18:46,257 So we did a search for Kayala [bleep]. 518 00:18:46,326 --> 00:18:49,093 Now, this brought us to a Twitter account. 519 00:18:49,162 --> 00:18:50,695 There aren't any pictures of her, 520 00:18:50,763 --> 00:18:53,064 but whoever had the Kayala [bleep] 521 00:18:53,133 --> 00:18:57,568 Twitter profile at some point changed the name to kprincess. 522 00:18:57,637 --> 00:19:01,873 So we kept searching, and we found this Instagram 523 00:19:01,941 --> 00:19:06,377 for kprincess, and sure enough the name is Kayala again. 524 00:19:06,446 --> 00:19:08,913 It's locked. It's private. 525 00:19:08,982 --> 00:19:11,249 So all we could see is that she's using SpongeBob 526 00:19:12,152 --> 00:19:14,852 as her avatar. Not sure what that means, but okay. 527 00:19:14,921 --> 00:19:16,687 Do you know anyone named Kayala? 528 00:19:16,756 --> 00:19:18,089 - I don't. - Right. 529 00:19:18,158 --> 00:19:20,625 That name doesn't ring any bells to you. 530 00:19:20,693 --> 00:19:22,126 Now, it could have just as easily been 531 00:19:22,195 --> 00:19:23,995 a fake account that someone started. 532 00:19:24,063 --> 00:19:27,165 I'm not sure there's any way to really decipher that. 533 00:19:27,233 --> 00:19:30,535 But who is posting them? Who is Kayala? 534 00:19:30,603 --> 00:19:31,903 Is she the girl in the pictures? 535 00:19:31,971 --> 00:19:33,538 How, if any, is there a connection 536 00:19:33,606 --> 00:19:35,540 between her and Lianna? 537 00:19:35,608 --> 00:19:36,674 We don't know yet. 538 00:19:36,743 --> 00:19:39,677 - Ohh, wow. 539 00:19:39,746 --> 00:19:41,245 - So and then we sort of though, "Okay. 540 00:19:41,314 --> 00:19:43,247 Let's go back and do the phone number. 541 00:19:43,316 --> 00:19:44,949 So we searched the phone number you have 542 00:19:45,018 --> 00:19:46,584 and the one that you text, 543 00:19:46,653 --> 00:19:48,853 and the first hit we got 544 00:19:48,922 --> 00:19:51,722 was for someone named Kalynn [bleep]. 545 00:19:51,791 --> 00:19:53,357 Does that-- - Does that name ring a bell? 546 00:19:53,426 --> 00:19:54,592 - No. 547 00:19:54,661 --> 00:19:56,093 - Well, according to this, 548 00:19:56,162 --> 00:20:00,298 there is a Facebook page linked to her info. 549 00:20:00,366 --> 00:20:02,433 So here's Kalynn. 550 00:20:02,502 --> 00:20:04,101 Kalynn is 29. 551 00:20:04,170 --> 00:20:05,736 - You don't recognize this girl? 552 00:20:05,805 --> 00:20:08,639 - No. No, I got no idea who that is. 553 00:20:08,708 --> 00:20:10,508 - Right. You've never seen her before? 554 00:20:10,577 --> 00:20:12,710 - No. None of that's ringing a bell. 555 00:20:12,779 --> 00:20:15,046 - The one thing that jumped out at me 556 00:20:15,114 --> 00:20:19,050 was that her background here is a SpongeBob photo. 557 00:20:19,118 --> 00:20:21,052 So that made me think, "Okay. Wait a second. 558 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:23,387 And if you go back to the Instagram 559 00:20:23,456 --> 00:20:27,959 and Twitter that we found, it's a picture of SpongeBob." 560 00:20:28,027 --> 00:20:29,860 - Kayala and Kalynn are similar names. 561 00:20:29,929 --> 00:20:31,896 They both have SpongeBob in their profiles. 562 00:20:31,965 --> 00:20:33,864 I mean, it could just be, like, 563 00:20:33,933 --> 00:20:34,799 a silly coincidence, but-- 564 00:20:34,867 --> 00:20:37,802 - Or not. - Or not. 565 00:20:37,870 --> 00:20:41,038 - From how I'm looking at it, I got catfished. 566 00:20:41,107 --> 00:20:43,274 - Yes, it's definitely not a good sign that 567 00:20:43,343 --> 00:20:47,211 the phone number comes back to a different girl named Kalynn. 568 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,514 There doesn't seem to be any trace of, like, 569 00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:52,650 a Lianna anywhere other than the Facebook page 570 00:20:52,719 --> 00:20:54,085 that you're friends with. 571 00:20:54,153 --> 00:20:58,456 - Well, I mean, that's kind of an answer in itself, 572 00:20:58,524 --> 00:21:00,625 personally, you know? 573 00:21:00,693 --> 00:21:05,196 - ♪ I only lie when I wish it was the truth ♪ 574 00:21:05,265 --> 00:21:06,964 - I know that it's, like, 575 00:21:07,033 --> 00:21:09,000 a violation when this kind of thing happens, 576 00:21:09,068 --> 00:21:10,534 and then the fact that, like-- 577 00:21:10,603 --> 00:21:12,003 - It's exactly how I feel. 578 00:21:12,071 --> 00:21:15,039 - Right. You guys were sharing conversations. 579 00:21:15,108 --> 00:21:17,708 You're sharing something personal with someone else, 580 00:21:17,777 --> 00:21:20,044 not just words but, like, 581 00:21:20,113 --> 00:21:23,347 physical photos of yourself. 582 00:21:23,416 --> 00:21:28,919 - I fantasize that all my dreams come true ♪ 583 00:21:28,988 --> 00:21:32,523 - That--that hurts. It's been a [bleep] long time. 584 00:21:32,592 --> 00:21:34,058 Like, what are you doing? 585 00:21:34,127 --> 00:21:37,094 - I think that the most [bleep] up part about it to me 586 00:21:37,163 --> 00:21:40,431 is the fact that this person went to the extent 587 00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:43,034 of pretending like they were showing up. 588 00:21:43,102 --> 00:21:44,435 This is not [bleep] okay. 589 00:21:44,504 --> 00:21:47,204 - Yeah. - Yeah, you know, I was hopeful 590 00:21:47,273 --> 00:21:48,839 that it was something, you know, 591 00:21:48,908 --> 00:21:52,176 legit and something I could pursue, 592 00:21:52,245 --> 00:21:56,147 but this is just some sick fantasy play out. 593 00:21:56,215 --> 00:21:58,516 - Right. - It's embarrassing. 594 00:21:58,584 --> 00:22:01,886 This is just their weird kink. I don't know. 595 00:22:01,954 --> 00:22:03,454 It's not okay at all. 596 00:22:03,523 --> 00:22:07,858 - ♪ I miss you but you do not miss me back ♪ 597 00:22:08,728 --> 00:22:10,194 - It's been a long time. 598 00:22:10,263 --> 00:22:11,228 Like, what are you doing? 599 00:22:11,297 --> 00:22:13,798 It's disrespectful. It's weird. 600 00:22:13,866 --> 00:22:15,299 - Yeah. - I don't know. 601 00:22:15,368 --> 00:22:18,135 I'm still interested in finding out who it really is. 602 00:22:18,204 --> 00:22:19,737 You know, I'd like to know. 603 00:22:19,806 --> 00:22:21,972 - Right. 604 00:22:22,041 --> 00:22:23,374 Yeah. All right. So let's just finish 605 00:22:23,443 --> 00:22:24,475 showing you what we found, 606 00:22:24,544 --> 00:22:25,876 'cause there's only a little bit more. 607 00:22:25,945 --> 00:22:27,378 So then we thought, "Okay, let's go look through 608 00:22:27,447 --> 00:22:29,513 Lianna's Facebook page." 609 00:22:29,582 --> 00:22:31,248 So, you know, we just sort of started 610 00:22:31,317 --> 00:22:32,483 going through the comments, 611 00:22:32,552 --> 00:22:34,118 and obviously it's mostly guys. 612 00:22:34,187 --> 00:22:37,288 Some of them feel flirty. 613 00:22:37,357 --> 00:22:39,123 We also went to Maria's page, 614 00:22:39,192 --> 00:22:41,058 and it has a sort of similar vibe: 615 00:22:41,127 --> 00:22:44,795 cute profile pictures, lots of comments from mostly guys. 616 00:22:44,864 --> 00:22:46,864 So we sent some messages to some of those guys 617 00:22:46,933 --> 00:22:48,399 just in the hopes that we might get to 618 00:22:48,468 --> 00:22:52,570 talk to some of them, and one of them got back to us, 619 00:22:52,638 --> 00:22:54,004 but he basically just said, like, 620 00:22:54,073 --> 00:22:55,806 "Yeah, I've seen your show. What's up?" 621 00:22:55,875 --> 00:22:58,642 And so I messaged him back asking if maybe he could talk, 622 00:22:58,711 --> 00:23:01,112 but obviously I haven't heard back yet, 623 00:23:01,180 --> 00:23:04,849 and so that's kind of where we left it. 624 00:23:04,917 --> 00:23:06,584 - We just hit up all those guys, 625 00:23:06,652 --> 00:23:08,285 but we never hit up Maria. 626 00:23:08,354 --> 00:23:09,553 - Oh, that's true. 627 00:23:09,622 --> 00:23:11,789 Maybe we should try reaching out to Maria. 628 00:23:11,858 --> 00:23:15,493 - But assuming Maria and Lianna are the same, 629 00:23:15,561 --> 00:23:16,694 and then we could be tipping off. 630 00:23:16,763 --> 00:23:18,596 - Wait. Hold on a second. Time-out. Time-out. 631 00:23:18,664 --> 00:23:21,599 I'm getting a phone call from Florida. 632 00:23:21,667 --> 00:23:23,701 - Oh, not a good sign. - Well... 633 00:23:23,770 --> 00:23:25,469 - Right off the bat. - Hello. 634 00:23:25,538 --> 00:23:28,172 - Hey, it's Daniel. - Daniel? 635 00:23:28,241 --> 00:23:30,775 - Off of Facebook. - Do you go by Danny Brooklyn? 636 00:23:30,843 --> 00:23:32,710 - Yes, I do. I do go by Danny Brooklyn. 637 00:23:32,779 --> 00:23:35,679 - Aha. So are you able to join a Zoom call? 638 00:23:35,748 --> 00:23:37,081 - Yes, sir. - All right. Great. 639 00:23:37,150 --> 00:23:38,749 I'll send you just a link right now. Okay? 640 00:23:38,818 --> 00:23:43,220 - Sounds good. - Okay. Sent. 641 00:23:43,289 --> 00:23:44,789 Hey, Daniel. - Oh. 642 00:23:44,857 --> 00:23:46,624 - Hey, how's it going? - Quick introductions. 643 00:23:46,692 --> 00:23:51,095 So Kamie over here, and this is Eric. 644 00:23:51,164 --> 00:23:53,664 - Eric, what's up, man? - And we reached out to you 645 00:23:53,733 --> 00:23:55,199 because we saw that you were friends with 646 00:23:55,268 --> 00:23:58,669 and had commented on some of Maria's Facebook posts, 647 00:23:58,738 --> 00:24:00,237 and we're curious what you knew about her. 648 00:24:00,306 --> 00:24:04,775 - Yeah, so, she had added me as a friend on Facebook. 649 00:24:04,844 --> 00:24:06,444 You know, we ended up starting to talk, 650 00:24:06,512 --> 00:24:08,045 and we kicked it off, 651 00:24:08,114 --> 00:24:10,314 and it was, like, endless nights, 652 00:24:10,383 --> 00:24:12,983 you know, 7, 8 hours on the phone every day. 653 00:24:13,052 --> 00:24:16,854 So we eventually got to the point where we wanted 654 00:24:16,923 --> 00:24:19,723 to meet each other, and we go ahead and meet up. 655 00:24:19,792 --> 00:24:22,426 "Oh, I'm on my way. I'm 5 minutes away. 656 00:24:22,495 --> 00:24:24,061 I'll be there in 2 minutes," 657 00:24:24,130 --> 00:24:26,497 and then everything is blocked. 658 00:24:26,566 --> 00:24:29,600 - And when you talked, did she ever mention her friend Lianna? 659 00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:32,670 - Oh, yeah. 660 00:24:32,738 --> 00:24:34,004 - I've been talking to Lianna 661 00:24:34,073 --> 00:24:37,274 and pretty much the same exact story you just said. 662 00:24:37,343 --> 00:24:38,843 She stood me up a couple times. 663 00:24:38,911 --> 00:24:42,746 Then Maria got involved. 664 00:24:42,815 --> 00:24:44,148 They talked me into trying to chill 665 00:24:44,217 --> 00:24:45,950 with both of them it was supposed to be. 666 00:24:46,018 --> 00:24:48,752 - Wow. Where are you from, Eric? 667 00:24:48,821 --> 00:24:50,154 -Buffalo, New York. 668 00:24:50,223 --> 00:24:54,325 - That's where Maria is from. - Ha! 669 00:24:54,393 --> 00:24:55,726 - Yeah. [laughs] 670 00:24:55,795 --> 00:24:57,261 - You know, it kind of hurt me. 671 00:24:57,330 --> 00:24:59,663 I was so, so excited to see this person, 672 00:24:59,732 --> 00:25:02,733 and out of the blue, this girl 673 00:25:02,802 --> 00:25:04,835 Tracey messaged me on Facebook 674 00:25:04,904 --> 00:25:07,805 stating that she was actually 675 00:25:07,874 --> 00:25:11,509 behind the profile of Maria. 676 00:25:11,577 --> 00:25:12,910 - Tracey? - Yeah. 677 00:25:12,979 --> 00:25:15,412 - Not someone named Lianna or Kalynn? 678 00:25:15,481 --> 00:25:16,514 - Nope. 679 00:25:16,582 --> 00:25:18,415 - Who the hell is Tracey? 680 00:25:18,484 --> 00:25:21,252 - Have you ever video chatted with Tracey? 681 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,888 - I mean, I've tried video chatting with Tracey, 682 00:25:23,956 --> 00:25:26,056 but she's never actually showed her face, 683 00:25:26,125 --> 00:25:29,960 and Tracey, she was like, 684 00:25:30,029 --> 00:25:31,328 "You know, I have a lot of money. 685 00:25:31,397 --> 00:25:32,763 "I came into a lot of money. 686 00:25:32,832 --> 00:25:34,532 "Please let me take you out. 687 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:35,833 Let me buy you a house. 688 00:25:35,902 --> 00:25:37,935 me buy you a car..." and... - Huh? 689 00:25:41,207 --> 00:25:42,706 - Weird. 690 00:25:42,775 --> 00:25:44,375 - This doesn't, like-- I mean-- 691 00:25:44,443 --> 00:25:45,776 - So you mean, so Tracey said 692 00:25:45,845 --> 00:25:47,678 she is the one that was pretending to be Maria 693 00:25:47,747 --> 00:25:49,747 and that she felt badly that she had lied to you 694 00:25:49,815 --> 00:25:51,148 and that she had all this money, 695 00:25:51,217 --> 00:25:52,783 and she wanted to sort of make it up to you. 696 00:25:52,852 --> 00:25:55,119 - Exactly. I said, "If you want to get together, 697 00:25:55,187 --> 00:25:58,989 let's get together," and again ghost. 698 00:25:59,058 --> 00:26:00,491 You know, it really hurt, 699 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,861 all this ghosting and playing games, 700 00:26:03,930 --> 00:26:05,763 and it's like mind games. 701 00:26:05,831 --> 00:26:06,864 It's not fair to me. 702 00:26:06,933 --> 00:26:10,134 It's not fair to me or anybody else. 703 00:26:11,304 --> 00:26:13,370 - You know, I really want to know, 704 00:26:13,439 --> 00:26:14,605 what do you get out of this? 705 00:26:14,674 --> 00:26:16,874 Like, why do you do this? 706 00:26:16,943 --> 00:26:19,577 - You felt like you were making this super meaningful 707 00:26:19,645 --> 00:26:20,911 connection with this girl, Maria, 708 00:26:20,980 --> 00:26:22,246 and all the while, it sounds like 709 00:26:22,315 --> 00:26:26,016 she was doing basically the same thing with Eric. 710 00:26:26,085 --> 00:26:27,151 - Yeah. 711 00:26:27,219 --> 00:26:29,086 - The thing that bothers me so much is, 712 00:26:29,155 --> 00:26:30,921 like, even when you block her, 713 00:26:30,990 --> 00:26:32,923 then she comes at you from someone else, 714 00:26:32,992 --> 00:26:34,091 and she starts bothering you again. 715 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,526 It's, like... - Yeah. 716 00:26:35,595 --> 00:26:36,927 - At what point does it become-- 717 00:26:36,996 --> 00:26:38,228 - Harassing. It's harassing. 718 00:26:38,297 --> 00:26:39,997 - Yeah. - Even after you're like, 719 00:26:40,066 --> 00:26:41,398 "I don't really want to talk to you," 720 00:26:41,467 --> 00:26:42,733 she's like, "Oh, I have a [bleep] ton of money. 721 00:26:42,802 --> 00:26:44,101 I can give you money." 722 00:26:44,170 --> 00:26:46,837 Like, how desperate is this person 723 00:26:46,906 --> 00:26:49,707 for companionship or friendship? 724 00:26:49,775 --> 00:26:52,209 How far are they willing to go to get it? 725 00:26:52,278 --> 00:26:55,112 And, like, are they even recognizing 726 00:26:55,181 --> 00:26:56,647 who they're hurting in the process? 727 00:26:56,716 --> 00:26:58,182 - It's not fair. - All right. 728 00:26:58,250 --> 00:27:01,151 Well, look, Danny, thank you for sharing all this with us. 729 00:27:01,220 --> 00:27:03,854 If you could send us Tracey's profile 730 00:27:03,923 --> 00:27:05,255 so that we can reach out to her. 731 00:27:05,324 --> 00:27:06,490 - Of course. - I need to see what 732 00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:09,126 this girl looks like. 733 00:27:09,195 --> 00:27:11,028 - If you need anything else from me, I'm here. 734 00:27:11,097 --> 00:27:12,863 - All right. Really appreciate it. 735 00:27:12,932 --> 00:27:15,466 - Thanks, Danny. 736 00:27:15,534 --> 00:27:17,635 Bye. What a sweetheart. 737 00:27:17,703 --> 00:27:19,770 - Wow. Well... 738 00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:21,472 - Obviously, I wasn't special. 739 00:27:21,540 --> 00:27:23,607 - Makes you feel less alone maybe, like, a little-- 740 00:27:23,676 --> 00:27:24,842 - Yeah. 741 00:27:24,910 --> 00:27:26,110 - Yeah, so what do you want to do, Eric? 742 00:27:26,178 --> 00:27:27,645 - Well, what's the next move, 743 00:27:27,713 --> 00:27:30,581 try and contact Tracey or Lianna? 744 00:27:30,650 --> 00:27:32,516 - Yeah. I think we've got to talk to Tracey 745 00:27:32,585 --> 00:27:34,451 or whatever her real name is, 746 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,955 because she's at the eye of the storm of this whole situation. 747 00:27:38,024 --> 00:27:40,491 - Well, knock, knock, Tracey, open up. 748 00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:42,259 - So I'm just waiting for him to send that profile, 749 00:27:42,328 --> 00:27:44,361 because then we can message her. 750 00:27:44,430 --> 00:27:45,562 - Oh, God. 751 00:27:45,631 --> 00:27:47,464 I mean, who knows how many other guys 752 00:27:48,501 --> 00:27:50,134 This could potentially she'be blowing upg to. 753 00:27:50,202 --> 00:27:51,935 her whole entire operation. 754 00:27:52,004 --> 00:27:53,671 - Let's see. Hold on. Maybe he texted me here. 755 00:27:53,739 --> 00:27:55,039 Oh, yeah, you know what? 756 00:27:55,107 --> 00:27:57,241 - Oh. - He did text me. 757 00:27:57,309 --> 00:27:58,609 Oh, there we go. 758 00:27:58,678 --> 00:28:00,044 - Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. 759 00:28:00,112 --> 00:28:02,813 - He wrote, "I swear this was here last week. 760 00:28:02,882 --> 00:28:04,882 "I think she deleted her profile. 761 00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:06,283 This is what comes up now!" 762 00:28:06,352 --> 00:28:07,985 - Wait, what? 763 00:28:08,054 --> 00:28:10,521 The Tracey profile is gone. 764 00:28:10,589 --> 00:28:11,789 What the [bleep]? 765 00:28:11,857 --> 00:28:14,792 [tense music] 766 00:28:14,860 --> 00:28:16,827 ♪ ♪ 767 00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:20,764 - So the Tracey profile is gone. 768 00:28:20,833 --> 00:28:22,132 What the [bleep]? 769 00:28:22,201 --> 00:28:23,634 - What? 770 00:28:23,703 --> 00:28:25,736 - So maybe she blocked him. 771 00:28:25,805 --> 00:28:29,106 Maybe the page still exists; he just can't see it. 772 00:28:29,175 --> 00:28:31,108 - I mean, look, the reality here is, 773 00:28:31,177 --> 00:28:33,877 JUST because Lianna came clean to Danny as Tracey 774 00:28:33,946 --> 00:28:35,879 doesn't mean that her real name is Tracey. 775 00:28:35,948 --> 00:28:37,848 - Yeah. - Maybe she just has that 776 00:28:37,917 --> 00:28:38,982 as another fake profile 777 00:28:39,051 --> 00:28:40,984 so that she can come clean to guys 778 00:28:41,053 --> 00:28:43,821 without the fear of them actually tracking her down 779 00:28:43,889 --> 00:28:48,192 and, you know, doing something or about, to her or-- 780 00:28:48,260 --> 00:28:51,161 - Right. But if her name is Tracey, 781 00:28:51,230 --> 00:28:52,996 none of this explains 782 00:28:53,065 --> 00:28:56,500 the Kayala [bleep] 783 00:28:56,569 --> 00:28:58,669 and then the Kalynn profile. 784 00:28:58,738 --> 00:29:01,972 Is that all just not related? 785 00:29:02,041 --> 00:29:03,540 - I don't know. I mean, the only person who can answer 786 00:29:03,609 --> 00:29:06,310 that is Tracey, I guess. 787 00:29:06,378 --> 00:29:08,178 - [sighs] 788 00:29:08,247 --> 00:29:10,714 - We still have a phone number we can reach her through. 789 00:29:10,783 --> 00:29:12,249 I mean, we know it's her, so we might as well 790 00:29:12,318 --> 00:29:16,353 just text the number you have for Lianna, right? 791 00:29:16,422 --> 00:29:18,388 - Yeah. 792 00:29:18,457 --> 00:29:22,593 - So I'm going to send her another message now. 793 00:29:22,661 --> 00:29:24,962 All right. I texted her. Let's see. 794 00:29:25,030 --> 00:29:27,331 Okay. So she has her read receipts on, 795 00:29:27,399 --> 00:29:28,899 so these have both been delivered, 796 00:29:28,968 --> 00:29:31,235 but neither of them has been read. 797 00:29:31,303 --> 00:29:32,603 - Share the screen. 798 00:29:32,671 --> 00:29:35,105 - Right. 799 00:29:35,174 --> 00:29:37,241 Oh. - Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. 800 00:29:37,309 --> 00:29:38,342 - She's typing. 801 00:29:42,581 --> 00:29:44,848 Hold on. She must have stopped typing, 802 00:29:44,917 --> 00:29:47,918 and now she's considering an edit perhaps 803 00:29:47,987 --> 00:29:50,120 or whether she's going to send it. 804 00:29:50,189 --> 00:29:53,290 - Or a lie. - Or blocking you. 805 00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:56,193 - Right, or she's going to block me. 806 00:29:56,262 --> 00:29:59,096 Tracey? 807 00:29:59,165 --> 00:30:03,167 - Oh, yeah, 'cause she doesn't know that we know her name. 808 00:30:05,971 --> 00:30:08,071 - Ooh. - I mean, I don't-- 809 00:30:08,140 --> 00:30:09,339 we don't even know if that's her name. 810 00:30:09,408 --> 00:30:10,407 - Right. 811 00:30:10,476 --> 00:30:12,176 [tense music] 812 00:30:12,244 --> 00:30:13,510 I feel like the next message you send, 813 00:30:13,579 --> 00:30:14,778 it's going to be green. 814 00:30:14,847 --> 00:30:16,580 She's going to block. 815 00:30:16,649 --> 00:30:19,316 ♪ ♪ 816 00:30:19,385 --> 00:30:20,684 - Oh, she saw it. - Ooh. 817 00:30:20,753 --> 00:30:23,153 ♪ ♪ 818 00:30:23,222 --> 00:30:26,156 [gasps] 819 00:30:26,225 --> 00:30:33,363 ♪ ♪ 820 00:30:34,133 --> 00:30:35,933 - "I'm shocked he wants to meet me 821 00:30:36,001 --> 00:30:39,369 when I thought all he wanted was hookups." 822 00:30:39,438 --> 00:30:43,207 - You know, what kind of game is that? 823 00:30:43,275 --> 00:30:46,310 - "You know that's BS." 824 00:30:46,378 --> 00:30:49,713 ♪ ♪ 825 00:30:49,782 --> 00:30:52,382 I'm not going to play her game. 826 00:30:52,451 --> 00:30:53,450 - You tell her, Nev. 827 00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:55,619 - Well, also, that's the act. 828 00:30:55,688 --> 00:30:59,189 She's posing as a young, attractive woman 829 00:30:59,258 --> 00:31:02,793 and flirting and engaging in sexual conversations. 830 00:31:02,862 --> 00:31:04,828 She can't be surprised that, 831 00:31:04,897 --> 00:31:06,563 yeah, of course you want to have sex with her. 832 00:31:06,632 --> 00:31:09,833 That's been her-- 833 00:31:09,902 --> 00:31:11,201 - Angle. - Yeah. 834 00:31:11,270 --> 00:31:12,569 - Right. 835 00:31:12,638 --> 00:31:18,575 - "Okay, well, I guess you don't care..." 836 00:31:18,644 --> 00:31:20,911 - Ultimatum time. 837 00:31:20,980 --> 00:31:24,348 - "About Eric or anything, 838 00:31:24,416 --> 00:31:25,916 so never mind." 839 00:31:25,985 --> 00:31:29,786 - I--I feel like maybe if you sent the link in there 840 00:31:29,855 --> 00:31:31,288 after the never mind part, 841 00:31:31,357 --> 00:31:35,359 maybe she'll read that and maybe, you know? 842 00:31:35,427 --> 00:31:37,094 - How about just like, "Last chance." 843 00:31:37,162 --> 00:31:38,929 - Mm. 844 00:31:38,998 --> 00:31:40,230 - And then I'll put the link. 845 00:31:40,299 --> 00:31:43,233 - Eric, are you ready to talk to this girl? 846 00:31:43,302 --> 00:31:44,668 - Yeah. 847 00:31:44,737 --> 00:31:47,237 - You're going to have to lay down the law and tell her 848 00:31:47,306 --> 00:31:49,640 what you expect from this moment forward. 849 00:31:49,708 --> 00:31:50,908 - Okay. 850 00:31:50,976 --> 00:31:53,443 - All right, sent. 851 00:31:53,512 --> 00:31:56,013 - She has to read it to get to the link, right? 852 00:31:56,081 --> 00:31:57,514 - Right. So if she reads it, 853 00:31:57,583 --> 00:32:00,384 then either she starts typing or-- 854 00:32:00,452 --> 00:32:01,451 - Oh, my God, she read it. 855 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,620 - Okay. She read it. 856 00:32:03,689 --> 00:32:07,858 ♪ ♪ 857 00:32:07,927 --> 00:32:09,259 Uh! - Here she comes. 858 00:32:09,328 --> 00:32:10,761 - Ooh... 859 00:32:10,829 --> 00:32:12,596 ♪ ♪ 860 00:32:12,665 --> 00:32:14,531 Come on. Come on. 861 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,565 [computer chimes] 862 00:32:15,634 --> 00:32:15,899 - Oh. 863 00:32:18,504 --> 00:32:19,836 [computer chimes] Uh! 864 00:32:19,905 --> 00:32:20,771 - Here she comes. 865 00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:22,472 - Ooh... 866 00:32:22,541 --> 00:32:24,107 ♪ ♪ 867 00:32:24,176 --> 00:32:26,109 Come on. Come on. 868 00:32:26,178 --> 00:32:28,946 [computer chimes] - Oh. 869 00:32:29,014 --> 00:32:31,682 - Hello. - Hello. 870 00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:34,952 - Hi. - Hi. 871 00:32:35,020 --> 00:32:38,822 - Hi. You're not the girl in the pictures, 872 00:32:38,891 --> 00:32:40,857 and you're not Kalynn. 873 00:32:40,926 --> 00:32:41,959 - No. 874 00:32:42,027 --> 00:32:44,394 ♪ ♪ 875 00:32:44,463 --> 00:32:46,496 - So you don't know a Kalynn? 876 00:32:46,565 --> 00:32:49,299 'Cause your phone number traces back to her. 877 00:32:49,368 --> 00:32:51,201 - No. 878 00:32:51,270 --> 00:32:53,670 - Then is your name Tracey? 879 00:32:53,739 --> 00:32:56,740 - Yes. 880 00:32:56,809 --> 00:32:58,208 - Is that your real name? 881 00:32:58,277 --> 00:33:00,577 - Yes. - And it's been you talking 882 00:33:00,646 --> 00:33:03,347 to Eric this whole time? 883 00:33:03,415 --> 00:33:05,983 - Yes. 884 00:33:06,051 --> 00:33:08,218 I made the account, 885 00:33:08,287 --> 00:33:10,087 like, the beginning of the pandemic. 886 00:33:10,155 --> 00:33:11,555 I was bored. 887 00:33:11,623 --> 00:33:13,924 I wanted people to talk to, but I wasn't-- 888 00:33:13,993 --> 00:33:17,260 like, I'm not somebody that was really trying to scam anybody 889 00:33:17,329 --> 00:33:19,629 because I really did feel bad, you know? 890 00:33:19,698 --> 00:33:21,832 - Which account are you referring to? 891 00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:24,368 - See, the Lianna account was Eric, 892 00:33:24,436 --> 00:33:28,905 but I ended up switching to the Maria account, 893 00:33:28,974 --> 00:33:31,742 because the Lianna account got too many-- 894 00:33:31,810 --> 00:33:33,010 too many requests. 895 00:33:33,078 --> 00:33:34,778 I was getting, like, 400 requests a day. 896 00:33:34,847 --> 00:33:36,446 ♪ ♪ 897 00:33:36,515 --> 00:33:39,416 - And those are the only accounts that you have? 898 00:33:39,485 --> 00:33:41,551 - Yes. 899 00:33:41,620 --> 00:33:43,920 - That's rude. 900 00:33:43,989 --> 00:33:45,789 - Well, look, obviously we don't really know 901 00:33:45,858 --> 00:33:47,090 anything about you, 902 00:33:47,159 --> 00:33:48,525 so can you just tell us a little bit about 903 00:33:48,594 --> 00:33:50,227 who you actually are. 904 00:33:50,295 --> 00:33:52,095 - My name is Tracey. I live in New Hampshire. 905 00:33:52,164 --> 00:33:55,832 I am actually 42 years old. 906 00:33:55,901 --> 00:33:57,567 I don't know; I basically, like, help take care 907 00:33:57,636 --> 00:34:00,337 of my handicapped uncle with my mother and stuff, 908 00:34:00,406 --> 00:34:01,738 and my mom's sick too. 909 00:34:01,807 --> 00:34:03,040 She's got Crohn's disease, 910 00:34:03,108 --> 00:34:07,744 so I'm constantly helping them. 911 00:34:07,813 --> 00:34:09,479 That is my life, 912 00:34:09,548 --> 00:34:13,016 so I think I was trying to give myself a different life, 913 00:34:13,085 --> 00:34:14,951 which was obviously not reality. 914 00:34:15,020 --> 00:34:16,186 - And you're single? 915 00:34:16,255 --> 00:34:18,221 You're not married or anything? 916 00:34:18,290 --> 00:34:19,356 - No. - Children? 917 00:34:19,425 --> 00:34:20,724 - No. 918 00:34:20,793 --> 00:34:23,026 I can't have children. 919 00:34:23,095 --> 00:34:25,262 - Is that something that you want? 920 00:34:25,330 --> 00:34:28,765 - I want it all, but I'll never get that. 921 00:34:31,036 --> 00:34:32,569 - Why-- - Why do you say that? 922 00:34:32,638 --> 00:34:34,304 ♪ ♪ 923 00:34:34,373 --> 00:34:35,872 - Because I don't go out. 924 00:34:35,941 --> 00:34:39,676 I don't go out to even meet somebody, and I don't know. 925 00:34:39,745 --> 00:34:41,278 Just I'm insecure. 926 00:34:41,346 --> 00:34:44,047 - Why keep doing things to hurt him, 927 00:34:44,116 --> 00:34:45,749 like telling him you're going to meet up with him 928 00:34:45,818 --> 00:34:47,784 and blowing him off and then blocking him and... 929 00:34:47,853 --> 00:34:50,687 - Because I was being stupid, because I really did want 930 00:34:50,756 --> 00:34:54,357 to see him, but I couldn't see him as me. 931 00:34:54,426 --> 00:34:55,725 - Look, we already talked to Danny, 932 00:34:55,794 --> 00:34:57,861 one of Maria's boyfriends, 933 00:34:57,930 --> 00:34:59,262 and Danny told us the same thing. 934 00:34:59,331 --> 00:35:00,664 - Yes. - "I'm coming down the street. 935 00:35:00,732 --> 00:35:02,732 I'm 5 minutes away. I'm 2 minutes away." 936 00:35:02,801 --> 00:35:04,267 Why even bother with that 937 00:35:04,336 --> 00:35:07,637 if you know you're not going to show up? 938 00:35:07,706 --> 00:35:08,939 - I don't know. 939 00:35:09,007 --> 00:35:10,173 - That is a game. 940 00:35:10,242 --> 00:35:12,976 That is 100% a game. 941 00:35:13,045 --> 00:35:17,581 - You're actively making plans to see these guys in person 942 00:35:17,649 --> 00:35:19,382 and making it seem like you were on your way. 943 00:35:19,451 --> 00:35:21,051 - Because that's all they want. They want to see you, 944 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,853 and then it's like, I wanted to keep them talking to me, 945 00:35:22,921 --> 00:35:25,789 so it's like, "Okay, I will come see you." 946 00:35:25,858 --> 00:35:27,290 You know? 947 00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:30,293 - But you know it's not going to actually happen. 948 00:35:30,362 --> 00:35:32,129 - I know. - So what is the end goal? 949 00:35:32,197 --> 00:35:34,531 Like, what do you expect to get out of that? 950 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,366 - I don't know. 951 00:35:36,435 --> 00:35:38,735 I didn't-- I wanted to get rid of this-- 952 00:35:38,804 --> 00:35:41,938 I wanted to get rid of it so many times. 953 00:35:42,007 --> 00:35:45,008 I was getting myself more upset and depressed 954 00:35:45,077 --> 00:35:47,377 even liking somebody, because then I'm like, "Okay. 955 00:35:47,446 --> 00:35:49,579 Now I'm waiting all day for somebody to call me" 956 00:35:50,616 --> 00:35:52,949 It was, like, I'm more or less lonely. 957 00:35:53,018 --> 00:35:56,019 Then I ended up started liking, like, especially Eric. 958 00:35:56,088 --> 00:35:57,487 I ended up liking him. 959 00:35:57,556 --> 00:36:01,091 And I was looking for somebody to be with, like, 960 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,795 have that connection and just vibes. 961 00:36:05,864 --> 00:36:08,064 - I'm sure you feel that way right now, 962 00:36:08,133 --> 00:36:09,533 because it's all in front of you, 963 00:36:09,601 --> 00:36:12,736 but, like, honestly, I don't know 964 00:36:12,804 --> 00:36:15,238 heads from tails of your stories, 965 00:36:15,307 --> 00:36:17,741 except for that it's all a lie. 966 00:36:17,809 --> 00:36:19,976 - Okay. 967 00:36:20,045 --> 00:36:22,979 - Even though you are seemingly very self-aware 968 00:36:23,048 --> 00:36:24,414 about different aspects of this, 969 00:36:24,483 --> 00:36:26,550 I think that there are a lot of deeper issues 970 00:36:26,618 --> 00:36:28,618 that need to be worked out internally. 971 00:36:28,687 --> 00:36:30,420 Like, woman to woman, I just have a feeling 972 00:36:30,489 --> 00:36:33,823 that you've been going through this 973 00:36:33,892 --> 00:36:38,728 and feeling this for a really long time. 974 00:36:38,797 --> 00:36:41,731 We need to shave off some of that insecure feeling, 975 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,168 because it's keeping you from being able to make true, 976 00:36:45,237 --> 00:36:47,470 genuine relationships 977 00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:50,040 and even just a relationship with yourself. 978 00:36:50,108 --> 00:36:51,641 - Yeah. - Because how do you 979 00:36:51,710 --> 00:36:54,778 honestly feel about yourself as a person? 980 00:36:54,846 --> 00:36:56,846 - [chuckles] 981 00:36:56,915 --> 00:36:58,481 Not that good. 982 00:36:58,550 --> 00:37:00,617 - Obviously, I'm upset, 983 00:37:00,686 --> 00:37:03,887 but, like, no one should have to feel this bad 984 00:37:03,956 --> 00:37:07,190 about themselves that they need to do this. 985 00:37:07,259 --> 00:37:11,194 - You say kind of a lot of the right things about knowing 986 00:37:11,263 --> 00:37:12,729 that what you were doing was wrong 987 00:37:12,798 --> 00:37:14,898 and feeling bad about it, but at the same time, 988 00:37:14,967 --> 00:37:18,368 I don't think you really get just how hurtful 989 00:37:18,437 --> 00:37:20,337 what you're doing is, and Eric-- 990 00:37:20,405 --> 00:37:23,340 - No, I do exactly know how hurtful it is, 991 00:37:23,408 --> 00:37:25,408 because you're playing with people's emotions. 992 00:37:25,477 --> 00:37:26,776 I understand that. 993 00:37:26,845 --> 00:37:28,812 - You told us you only had two profiles, 994 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,347 but do you know how many other people 995 00:37:30,415 --> 00:37:33,783 you've been leading on these past few months? 996 00:37:33,852 --> 00:37:35,185 - I don't know. 997 00:37:35,254 --> 00:37:37,287 - Well, what you could do is, 998 00:37:37,356 --> 00:37:41,024 you could post on each of the profiles and say, 999 00:37:41,093 --> 00:37:43,827 "This is who I am. I've been lying this entire time. 1000 00:37:43,895 --> 00:37:45,295 I'm sorry, and I apologize," 1001 00:37:45,364 --> 00:37:47,330 so that way you can apologize to everyone. 1002 00:37:47,399 --> 00:37:50,367 - I was just going to deactivate, but... 1003 00:37:50,435 --> 00:37:52,035 - You're putting yourself out there, 1004 00:37:52,104 --> 00:37:53,236 but that's the point. 1005 00:37:53,305 --> 00:37:54,638 You need to give everybody involved 1006 00:37:54,706 --> 00:37:58,275 or affected by your lies the courtesy of the truth, 1007 00:37:58,343 --> 00:38:01,044 and putting yourself in a position to, 1008 00:38:01,113 --> 00:38:02,579 you know, reap what you sow 1009 00:38:02,648 --> 00:38:06,049 and be accountable is part of building up your confidence. 1010 00:38:06,118 --> 00:38:07,851 - You want me to do it right now? 1011 00:38:07,919 --> 00:38:09,252 - Yeah, let's do it. Right now. - Yeah. 1012 00:38:09,321 --> 00:38:10,520 - Let's just pull that Band-Aid off. 1013 00:38:10,589 --> 00:38:11,588 - You want to make a change. 1014 00:38:11,657 --> 00:38:13,623 - All right. - Okay. Here we go. 1015 00:38:13,692 --> 00:38:15,292 - Okay, so-- - I'm in Maria. 1016 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,826 - All right. You're on Maria now. 1017 00:38:16,895 --> 00:38:20,730 Okay. So go to her profile. - Okay. 1018 00:38:20,799 --> 00:38:23,466 - And there we go. 1019 00:38:23,535 --> 00:38:26,436 [tense music] 1020 00:38:26,505 --> 00:38:28,238 ♪ ♪ 1021 00:38:28,307 --> 00:38:30,173 - All right. Posted that one. 1022 00:38:30,242 --> 00:38:31,875 ♪ ♪ 1023 00:38:31,943 --> 00:38:34,611 - And now Lianna's Facebook page. 1024 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,048 - Come on, Tracey. You can do this, girl. 1025 00:38:38,116 --> 00:38:40,917 - "I will no longer be using this account." Perfect. 1026 00:38:40,986 --> 00:38:44,254 ♪ ♪ 1027 00:38:44,323 --> 00:38:45,755 - All right. 1028 00:38:45,824 --> 00:38:46,890 - Okay, great. 1029 00:38:46,958 --> 00:38:50,293 - Yeah. 1030 00:38:50,362 --> 00:38:51,795 - How did that feel? 1031 00:38:51,863 --> 00:38:54,564 - It felt good. 1032 00:38:54,633 --> 00:38:56,132 - All right. Well, that's a good start. 1033 00:38:56,201 --> 00:38:59,169 You know, I don't think you seem like a bad person. 1034 00:38:59,237 --> 00:39:00,770 Sure, you've made some bad decisions. 1035 00:39:00,839 --> 00:39:03,206 I think most of us can say the same. 1036 00:39:03,275 --> 00:39:04,941 I know I feel better 1037 00:39:05,010 --> 00:39:07,911 knowing that you've done that on those pages. 1038 00:39:07,979 --> 00:39:10,013 Obviously, I'm happy that Eric now knows the truth, 1039 00:39:10,082 --> 00:39:12,882 and I'm hoping that you 1040 00:39:12,951 --> 00:39:15,285 won't continue doing this sort of thing, 1041 00:39:15,354 --> 00:39:17,387 and you'll learn from this and grow. 1042 00:39:17,456 --> 00:39:21,658 - Mm-hmm. I'm sorry, Eric. 1043 00:39:21,727 --> 00:39:24,094 - Thank you. 1044 00:39:24,162 --> 00:39:25,729 It wasn't all bad. 1045 00:39:25,797 --> 00:39:27,697 You know, we had some good talks. 1046 00:39:27,766 --> 00:39:30,500 You know, we had a little fun. 1047 00:39:30,569 --> 00:39:32,836 I'm glad I could be there for you 1048 00:39:32,904 --> 00:39:35,305 in whatever twisted way you needed, 1049 00:39:35,374 --> 00:39:38,675 but it wasn't okay to do, though. 1050 00:39:38,744 --> 00:39:40,276 - I know. 1051 00:39:40,345 --> 00:39:42,445 - You've done the right thing. 1052 00:39:42,514 --> 00:39:43,813 You did the right thing by coming here. 1053 00:39:43,882 --> 00:39:46,349 You did the right thing by making those posts 1054 00:39:46,418 --> 00:39:48,785 and being honest, and I think 1055 00:39:48,854 --> 00:39:52,756 that this is going to be a really freeing experience 1056 00:39:52,824 --> 00:39:56,192 for you moving forward, and I'm happy for that. 1057 00:39:56,261 --> 00:39:57,494 - Thank you. 1058 00:39:57,562 --> 00:39:59,162 - Good luck, Tracey. 1059 00:39:59,231 --> 00:40:02,098 - Bye. Thank you. - Bye. 1060 00:40:02,167 --> 00:40:05,502 - Bye. 1061 00:40:05,570 --> 00:40:07,270 - [exhales] 1062 00:40:07,339 --> 00:40:09,339 - So, you know, 1063 00:40:09,408 --> 00:40:11,674 I'm happy that this was a platform 1064 00:40:11,743 --> 00:40:16,212 for her to stop what-- you know, all this. 1065 00:40:16,281 --> 00:40:18,782 - All right. Well, look, man, 1066 00:40:18,850 --> 00:40:20,183 thanks for letting us help you out, 1067 00:40:20,252 --> 00:40:22,952 and good luck in hopefully your next relationship, 1068 00:40:23,021 --> 00:40:26,423 which be with a real person who treats you well. 1069 00:40:26,491 --> 00:40:28,224 - A baddy in Buffalo. 1070 00:40:28,293 --> 00:40:30,994 - Oh, yeah. - [laughs] 1071 00:40:31,062 --> 00:40:32,295 - [laughs] 1072 00:40:32,364 --> 00:40:33,463 All right. Thank you, guys. 1073 00:40:33,532 --> 00:40:35,665 - Bye. - Bye. 1074 00:40:35,734 --> 00:40:39,335 - ♪ Do you ever feel ♪ 1075 00:40:39,404 --> 00:40:42,739 ♪ Like it's all mine? ♪ 1076 00:40:42,808 --> 00:40:46,743 ♪ Will you ever feel ♪ 1077 00:40:46,812 --> 00:40:50,113 ♪ Like it's all fine? ♪ 1078 00:40:50,182 --> 00:40:52,515 ♪ ♪ 1079 00:40:53,919 --> 00:40:55,785 - Scuba meets Renee on a virtual social network. [funky electronic mu 1080 00:40:55,854 --> 00:40:58,888 - She was the love of my life, but then one day, it was gone. 1081 00:40:58,957 --> 00:41:01,324 - She's thought about you. She found you again. 1082 00:41:01,393 --> 00:41:02,725 Like, she wants to be in your life. 1083 00:41:02,794 --> 00:41:04,794 - [gasps] Shut the [bleep] up. 1084 00:41:04,863 --> 00:41:07,397 - Wow. That almost makes the case that Renee is legit. 1085 00:41:07,466 --> 00:41:08,631 - I'm at the edge of my seat right now. 1086 00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:09,999 [computer chimes] 1087 00:41:10,068 --> 00:41:11,634 - Oh. - Oh.