- We got a very special co-host this week.
The one and only, Nick Young.
How's it going, man?
I've watched the show, "Love & Hip Hop,"
and I've fallen for one of the guys on there,
Rich Dollaz. [dings]
- I seen him on TV and my heart
jumped out of my chest.
- This is the most convincing catfish
I'll have ever seen.
- Can I wait in the car? I'm scared.
- Should be here. - Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Oh, my God. - This is crazy.
[dramatic musical sting]
- Very special co-host this week.
You might know him for his style
and his personality.
Or you might know him for his basketball career.
Either way, the guy's got a lot of swag.
Which is probably why they call him, "Swaggy P."
- My man, what's going on? - Yo, what's up, man?
Nick Young, AKA, "Swaggy P,"
is a 12-year NBA vet and recent champion.
He's a player, both on and off the court,
and a guaranteed member of the meme hall of fame.
The one and only, Nick Young.
How's it going, man?
- All right. - Good to meet you.
Welcome to the show. I got us set up here.
I tried to make it a little bit more, uh, accommodating.
- I see a court. - So you'd feel comfortable.
- It's right here. - Oh, I didn't even see that.
- Oh, all right. The finger roll.
Anyway, why don't we take a seat?
- All right.
You got a booster chair? That's cool.
- Well, I just thought that would even us out a little.
I just need to be higher. - I feel you, yeah.
- You know, I know you're-- you're a seasoned professional,
but on this court, you're still just a rookie, okay?
- [laughs]
- No, I don't need this. - No. [laughs]
I really thought you were just gonna sit
like that the whole time. - No, no.
All right, we got an email here from Sheila.
"Hey Nev and Nick,
"My name is Sheila.
"I'm from Central Islip, New York.
"I am a 33 year-old single mom,
who loves watching reality TV."
- [laughs]
"I've watched a show, 'Love & Hip Hop'
"and I've fallen for one of the guys on there,
Rich Dollaz."
[dings]
"And I think I've found the one."
- ♪ As fast as you can run as fast as you can ♪
- Do you know who she's talking about?
- Yeah. - Oh, no.
- ♪ I'm gonna make you want me ♪
- "About eight months ago, I saw Rich on TV
"for the first time and immediately felt
this guy was special."
- ♪ You know you can't have found me ♪
- "In one episode, Rich said something about
"looking for someone to grow old with.
And I instantly felt like I could be that person."
- ♪ I know your laugh anywhere ♪
- "So, I Googled his social media
and took a leap and DM'd him."
I'm sure you get a lot of DMs, right?
- Not no more. Did you hear?
Not no more. - Oh, you got a lady?
- Uh, the originality is crazy. - Yeah, you don't even
look at them anymore, right? - No.
I don't look, yeah.
But Rich Dollaz is-- - Rich Dollaz is getting DMs.
Yeah, okay. - [laughs]
- Uh, "I started talking a lot.
"I was excited that I was talking to someone
I've seen on TV."
- ♪ Fast as you can run fast as you can ♪
- "And the more we talked, the deeper my feelings got.
"Even though he labels himself, 'a creep' on the show,
I think that he's really a sweetheart."
- ♪ You know I'll find you ♪
♪ Fast as you can then you know I'll get you ♪
- Is that true? - For sure.
He has a new girl every season.
- "I'm not a model,
"unlike some of the girls he's probably used to.
"So, the fact that he's talking to me
"makes me feel special.
If this is him, this could be the man of my dreams."
Wow.
- "We technically haven't met yet,
and he has yet to get on the phone with me."
- ♪ Stay all night and don't let me go ♪
- "He says he wants to meet me and he's tried,
"but when it comes to the last minute,
something will come up."
- ♪ Stay all night and don't let me go ♪
- "I feel like the only way this can happen
"is if you guys get involved.
Thanks, Sheila."
- ♪ Stay all night and don't let me go ♪
- I don't know about this one.
- It sounds like Sheila is either
very clearly getting catfished,
or--perhaps worse--actually talking to Rich Dollaz.
Wh--which one do you think makes her chances
of finding love better?
- I don't know. - Well, let's call Sheila
and see what she has to say for herself.
[chiming]
Hey. - Hi.
- What's up? - Hey.
- My co-host this week is, Nick Young.
- Wow, it's so nice to meet you, Nick.
- You heard of this guy? - Yeah, of course.
- I'ma help you out.
- Thank you, Nick. I need your help.
- All right, well--so, first of all,
we got your email.
You live in Long Island. - Yes.
- Is that where you grew up? - Yes.
[New York accent] - A real New Yorker.
- Yep. [laughs]
- You said you are a single mom.
How many kids do you have?
- I have one daughter. - How old is she?
- She's in elementary school. - Got it.
What do you, uh, do in New York?
- I'm a union rep for a cleaning company.
I've been there for about six years.
And I do music--I'm a rapper.
- You're a rapper? - Well, I'm an aspiring rapper.
- Cool. All right, so you really like
this guy, Rich.
When you saw him on the show,
and you--you started to realize like, this guy seems cool,
you found his Instagram?
- I Googled his Instagram.
Then I went into his DM, and he replied to me.
I was just like, smiling for the rest of the night.
- Was it verified? Was it the like--
- Yes, it had a blue check on it.
- And It's got like, a million follower or something?
- Yes. - Huh.
- Oh. - This is good news.
This is good news. - It's good news.
- Um, and so now it's been eight months?
And you guys t--like, DM'ing every day now, or?
- Um, probably like, couple times a week.
- Do you, um, have his number or do you guys just DM?
- Um, I don't have his number. - Oh.
- I've been asking him for his number.
I have tried to video-chat him.
I am not getting anywhere.
- Oh, I wouldn't give out my number
on Instagram neither though.
- Does he live in New York?
- He films in New York for the show.
But I think he's like, all around.
He's a busy man.
- Aside from being on the show, what does he do?
- He's a music mogul.
And he was an executive for Bad Boy.
- So, that's probably why you want him.
You think he's gonna put you on.
See, you a gold digger. Now, I know--
- Oh, my gosh!
- You wanna be on "Love & Hip Hop."
And he just wanted to like, hang out
and walk in the park? Down with it.
I don't want nothing but his time.
Like, I really like this man.
- Are you under the impression that like,
he has feelings for you, and that you guys
are kind of committed to each other?
Or is it that like--
- He's laughing and making me laugh.
- Don't you think that there's a chance
he might be DM'ing other girls, too?
I mean-- - I'm sure. I'm sure.
- Okay. Okay. - I'm sure he doesn't put
all his eggs in one basket, like me.
But, he's not gonna go on this long
talking to me if he didn't like, care at all.
- We gotta make this dream come true.
- I mean, I--I--the fact that it's--it's his account--
- Yeah--yeah, it's his account, so...
- I mean, it could be him. - It could be him.
- Look, we're gonna come to New York.
- For sure. - We're gonna figure this out.
So, sit tight. We'll see you tomorrow.
- For sure. - Okay.
- Bye. - See you later.
- Do you think it's just him and he talks to lots of girls?
And he doesn't really--
- Have you done-- talked to girls,
and then like, just never met up with them?
- Yeah. Yeah. - Right.
- I don't know. We just gotta go to New York.
- We gotta find out.
All right, man. Let's do it.
- ♪ I'm a-coming I'm a-coming ♪
♪ I'm a-coming I'm a-coming ♪
♪ ♪
♪ Let's blast off ♪
- Beautiful Long Island.
Rich Dollaz might just be stringing her along.
On the off-chance that he's ever out in the middle
of Long Island, and he's got a girl he can hit up.
- Seeming like he's doing some of my moves.
- Oh, you mean the DM-- - String somebody--
- String someone along. - Yeah.
Occasionally a DM here and there.
[laughter]
- ♪ I'm a-coming I'm a-coming ♪
- All right, Sheila.
♪ ♪
She's waving outside. She's been waiting.
Just ready.
- ♪ Blast off ♪
- Let's do it. Sheila?
- Hi! - Sheila.
- I've over here. I'm so happy you guys made it.
- What's up? - Nice to meet you.
- You too.
- Come on. Come along, guys. - We're in the suburbs.
- Where you taking us? I'm--now I'm a little worried.
- Going through back? - Not gonna kidnap you guys.
Come on down here, you guys. - Uh-oh.
- Why we going to the basement? - I don't know.
- Straight to the basement.
- Be careful. Watch your head.
- You've got a low--low ceiling here.
Swaggy.
This is cute. - Have a seat.
- All right, yeah. Sit down, yeah.
Let's get into it.
Give us the details of how it went down.
- So, basically it all started...
I was watching, "Love & Hip Hop."
I seen him on TV, and my heart just jumped out of my chest.
I was just like, compelled to say something to him.
I seen him opening up about just trying to find someone.
Him opening up about his health.
And for him to be a man and just like,
open up kind of touched me a little.
I was just like, compelled to say something to him.
At first, he's giving me like, one little word comments.
But through time, he opened up a little bit.
- Opened up like how?
- He's talking about his health,
and how he had passed out,
'cause he wasn't taking care of himself.
I was just like, hurt about it.
He really needs somebody to be there for him.
I really do like him.
And we're kind of getting somewhere.
I feel like he's more understanding
where I'm coming from by the poems I send--
- All right, so wait. You sent him--
- Poems. - That you've written?
- Yes, because I feel like I send the poem--
he can read the poem, and then he understands
where I'm coming from.
- Got your poems? I wanna hear--
- Oh, you wanna hear it? - Yeah, let's see the poem.
- "Do you wanna be a creep?
"Different strippers in your sheet
"or do you want the one bish that makes your heart beat?
"Chances of finding her are steep.
"Money can't buy love, but it attracts different freaks.
"Far from rich, but to be Rich Dollaz
looking for love, the pain runs deep."
- That was pretty good. - Thank you.
- Yeah. - Yeah.
Nice. - Thank you.
- See? Yeah, this is legit.
- Like, kind of stalker-ish low-key.
- [laughs] - I'm just saying.
I'm just saying. If I get poems written to me,
and I look at them like, "Okay, she's kind of a crazy."
- I wouldn't say that's stalker-ish.
I feel like that's the way I can express my feelings.
Let it be known what I'm--what I'm looking for.
- Right. - One time
I said, "I'm not really just looking for sex.
I'm looking for..." and I sent him an emoji
of like, a bride and the baby.
- That's like stalker-ish, right there.
- How's that stalker-ish? You gotta let
somebody know what you want.
- Well, has he ever specifically said like,
"I like you, we should go out sometime?"
- No, I've never gotten that.
- Have you ever sent him like,
un-appropriate stuff?
- I've--I've tried to spice it up a little bit.
- Yeah. - Try to keep his attention.
- He respond to those? - Oh, yeah.
- Does he then ask for more of those?
- Yes. - He does?
So, there's something. There's obvious--there's
an attraction of some kind. - Something, right.
- Yes, definitely.
- Have he send you pictures?
- No, I just look at the, um,
the nude that leaked.
- Oh, really? He had one?
[laughter]
- You liked what you saw? - Yeah.
- Okay.
- So, you really put yourself out there,
giving yourself to this guy.
But, do you think there's a chance it may not be him?
- There's a chance. You can't-- You don't know nowadays.
- Right, you don't know. - I never video-chatted him.
I've never talked to him on the phone.
- So, you're frustrated? - I'm frustrated.
'Cause I really like him.
- Can we see some of the messages
you guys send to each other? - Yeah.
- Seeing a lot of content. - It's eight months.
- Look at her scrolling. Look at that.
- It's a while. - All right, so this is
the first--this is it--this is the very beginning of it?
- Let me go ahead and get up. This is interesting.
- All right. So you said,
"Hey, boo. How are you?
"I'm very interested in getting to know you.
I think he have a lot in common."
You gave him your number and said,
"Hit me up anytime." And then he said,
"Send a video of you getting busy."
What? - [bleep]
Sorry.
- Wow.
- Wait--okay, so hold on. So he's a little bit of--
he's a creep, like you said.
- That's the life some guys love.
I sent pictures of like, of me and him together,
so he can like, reiterate it.
- Oh, that's [bleep] crazy.
- [laughing] - Oh, you just crazy.
Oh, that's all this is. We figured it out.
[bleep] - That was kinda creepy, right?
- Keep going.
He made another request for a picture
of your "hoo-ha."
- He said that? - "He said that?"
- That's what he said.
- I mean, that's his thing, right?
He---he... - He likes pictures of you.
- Does he just like talking to you, because he knows
once in a while you'll send him something sexy?
Or is he--does he really share the feelings for you
that you have for him?
- I'm not sure. I'm trying to get answers.
- So, it is--it is confusing.
- I'm trying to break through that to get to know him
on that level, but I just wanna see what's gonna happen.
- Well, we got a little work to see what we can figure out.
- Okay. - And then we'll decide
what to do next. - Walk us out, man.
- Go find my future husband. - Oh, there it is.
There's the crazy creeping out.
[laughter]
- This is a very interesting show.
I think-- - This is a good one.
- Yeah.
- All right. So, what do you think?
- I think it's him.
- Well whoever she's talking... - His blue check.
- To is using his verified account.
- But it's confusing 'cause like, she seems like
a pretty well put-together, confident woman.
- For sure. - And yet, from the outside
it really does feel like this guys is just a gross--
- Yeah. - You know, a player,
who's just trying to get pics from girls on Instagram.
- Yeah. - Is she just making all
this up in her head that he's into her?
[rousing hip-hop music]
♪ ♪
- After you. Hello. - Go ahead.
- Check this out.
I wanna see if we can do this investigation
in under an hour.
- All right. - Here we go.
Keep an eye on that.
All right, let's do this.
- Come on, man.
You ready? - For sure.
- Sheila: single mom, looking for love.
She's watching, "Love & Hip Hop."
She sees this guy, Rich Dollaz.
She sends him a message.
He hits her right back.
The conversation started to escalate.
But he won't give her his phone number.
He won't send her any pictures.
- And they just haven't met, either.
- But the--the big, crazy thing here
is that she's apparently talking to
his verified account.
- Yeah. So, it could be him.
- Right. Here's what she sent us.
"Pretty sure he was born in Connecticut.
"Not sure what city though. This is his official
"Instagram account, the one that I've been messaging with.
"Call me if you need anything else.
You guys are amazing."
So, let's just go to his Instagram.
- See what he got on.
He got the followers.
- Wow. Yeah, he's got his million followers.
As far as I know, you can't fake a verified account.
You certainly can't fake a million followers.
He doesn't post a ton of stuff of himself.
He likes to post memes.
Bet you if we scroll down enough,
we'll probably see you on here.
So, really is not a lot of personal content on here.
- Yeah. - Doesn't necessarily strike me
as an older man's social media account.
- Put yourself, you know-- like, a 41 year-old...
- Right. - You're not about to be
on Instagram posting like that. So...
- "CEO of Dollaz Unlimited."
Got a website. I mean--
- I think it's him. - I know, I know.
I just--it's just never happens.
It's like, so rare that it's actually him,
especially if it's a celebrity.
But, I think you're right. I think at this point like,
there's only evidence to support that it is in fact him.
Nothing to suggest it isn't. - Yeah.
- The only other thing that could be happening--
and I know this, because it actually happened to me--
- Okay. - Was a few years ago,
I saw that a Twitter account,
with a lot of followers, had been tweeting at me.
So, I just engaged with her. I was single at the time,
and she seemed kind of cute and funny.
- So you got catfished again?
- Well, yeah. Wait, hold on.
Then because she was so good at social media,
I ended up hiring her. - For real?
- Yeah, she was gonna, like, run all my stuff.
Anyway, she was like, "Just generate a one-time
password to your Twitter account, so I can go see
who's following you-- - Yeah.
- I was just like, "Okay, here."
And then one night, it's like, 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning,
and I see I have a direct message on my Twitter.
So, I go to it and it's from a guy
I've never seen before. - Oh.
- So, what I didn't know was that
she would meet guys on her own page.
And then if they ever asked her,
"How do I know you're real?"
She'd send them a message as me.
Then confirm.
And then she would delete it right away.
So, she was clearing her messages right under my nose.
For months. - Dang.
I can't believe you.
I might catfish you next. [both laugh]
- Anyway, so it's possible that maybe Rich gave his password
to someone to help with posting or whatever.
And doesn't realize that they still have access
and are still messaging this girl.
- On the low, yeah. - Right.
"Love & Hip Hop" is on VH1,
which is part of the same company that is MTV.
So, I feel like maybe we could call
someone at MTV, VH1,
and find out if he has someone run his Instagram.
And see if there's any way we can get in touch with him.
- Let's do it. - All right.
[line trilling]
- Hello? - Hey, Haley.
- Hi, Nev. - Hey, how you doing?
- Doing great. We're filming an episode of "Catfish" right now.
I've got Nick Young, AKA "Swaggy P."
- Hello, hello.
- We're doing an episode right now
with a woman who, as far as we can tell,
seems to be talking to Rich Dollaz,
from "Love & Hip Hop."
- Her DMs are going to his Instagram.
Like, his verified, one million followers Instagram.
- So, we'd like to try and find out if he has
someone, maybe through "Love & Hip Hop", that helps
like, keep his social media going
or who would have access to his account.
- Okay, perfect.
- The only other thing that would be helpful
is if possible, we'd love to be able to get in touch with him.
- All right. Thanks, Haley.
- Bye.
All right, great. Hopefully, she'll dig something up.
But in the meantime, should we just do
a quick search for Rich Dollaz?
- Ooh.
- Wait a second. So, this is from July 30th.
So, this is pretty recently. So,
"If Rich Dollaz is trying to play the field,
"he doesn't seem to be the best at it.
"After Dollaz posted a photo close-up with a mystery woman.
"After Rich shared this, his exes came out of the woodwork
"to pull him through the Instagram dirt.
"Then his other former flame got involved saying,
'Oh, God. LOL man, I should kick you.'"
- Rich is a cold player.
- It feels like a lot of drama.
[phone ringing]
Oh, here's Haley. That was fast.
- Uh-oh. - Hello.
- What do you got?
- Oh. - As far as he knows.
- Right.
- Okay, but you got a phone number for us?
- All right, awesome. Yeah, we're ready.
- All right. Well, thank you a lot.
This is awesome.
- Bye, Haley. - All right, bye.
- So, as far as we know, it's his Instagram.
We got a phone number.
I don't know what else we can do.
- But call him.
- Yeah, let's see if he even answers.
- Yeah. But you gotta act cool though.
Like, don't be like, "Hey this is ne-ne-ne...
This is Nev from 'Catfish' and I'm..."
Be like, "What's up, yo? Yo, Dolla.
I got some good information for you."
[line trilling]
He ain't answering.
- What? - What?
- Jose? - [laughs]
- Did we get the number wrong?
- Six, four, six... [bleep]
He gonna answer this time.
- Jose. He, uh, sent us straight to voicemail.
- Uh, yeah--hi.
Uh, this is actually Nev from "Catfish."
- "Nev from 'Catfish.' This is Nev."
- I--I was looking for Rich Dollaz.
- He ain't gonna believe you. - I don't know if this is
who--I've got the wrong number or not.
But, uh, shoot me a text or call me back when you get this,
either way, thanks, man.
Maybe he switched his number. - Who knows no more, man.
[mumbles]
- Well that's weird. - Text him?
- I guess. - Just text him.
- All right. - Text him in like,
the "Nev voice."
- "What's good?"
- [laughs]
What's good, yo? Say, "son."
Like, "What's up, son?" Like, "[mumbles] son."
- Here, you write it. You write it.
- "Yo, what's good, son?
Ayo Rich Dollaz." You know I don't spell
"Dollaz," you gotta put the money sign.
- Yeah. - Like, yeah--like we cool.
"We with MTV 'Catfish'
"trying to holla at you about something.
Hit me back ASAP."
- Okay, thank you.
All right. So, look.
We've called, we left a message, we texted.
If we don't hear back from him by the end of the day,
tomorrow we can go back to Sheila.
Let her know, seems like she is talking to this guy.
- Mm-hmm.. - But obviously, still a chance
it could be someone else using his account.
Unlikely, but possible.
But, let's just see if this gets to him.
- I think it's gonna go through.
- Oh! Look at that.
- Come on, man--dude.
- There's still a little bit in here, look.
- No, there ain't. - Oh, there it is.
All right. Let's get out of here.
[electronic music]
- So, I have, as of this morning,
not heard back from Rich.
- Even your perfectly crafted text message
doesn't seem to have inspired a response.
- We might have to DM Rich. - I don't know what else to do.
Best way to get in touch with him...
- Sure. Yeah, sure.
Let's just see what Sheila wants to do next.
- Let's do it.
♪ ♪
- Just go down? I'll check.
- Are we just gonna break in?
- Hello? Hey, there she is.
- Black people can't break in. - Come on in.
- Did you hear us knocking? - It's okay.
- Aw, I like that dress. - Thank you.
- You cleaned up well for us today, huh?
What's going on?
- Okay.
- Let's get down to business. - All right.
How you feeling?
- Anxious. Worried.
- Makes sense.
- My heart is beating really fast.
- Yeah, I don't want you to like,
stress this whole time.
Let's just go over what we looked at yesterday.
Just to bring you up to speed. - Okay.
- We started on his Instagram page.
And, you know, the first thing that kind of
jumped out at me is, for a 43 year-old guy,
like, he posts a lot of memes.
- Mm-hmm.. - Not to say that
there's an age restriction on memes.
- Okay. - But this looks to me
almost more like an account of like, a younger person.
- So, you think this page is fake?
- That's not what we're saying. - No, no, no, no.
- I just think that-- that's interesting.
- It does have a blue check, it can't be fake.
- Right. I don't think it can be fake.
But, there's a chance you've been DM'ing
someone else using that account, and that Rich
has no idea who you are.
So, then we thought, because he's on VH1
and--and obviously, this is an MTV show,
and they're sister networks.
I called a contact. She called us back,
and said, as far as whoever she spoke to at
"Love & Hip Hop," this is his-- for sure his Instagram.
They're not aware of anyone else running the page
or posting on his behalf.
She gave us a phone number. So, we called.
- Okay. - No one answered.
And the weird thing, was that the outgoing message
was, "Hey, you've reached Jose. Leave a message."
- Is that his nickname, or something?
- Jose? Like, nah. I don't think--I don't know.
I don't know nothing about that.
- Okay. So, either they have
a number for him that might be his--his assistant.
Or the number they have for him was an old number
from a few months ago, and maybe he switched his number.
- He changed it.
- Anyway, we left a voicemail for who we think is Rich.
- Mm-hmm.. - We also sent a text message
to follow up--to be like, "Hey, we're making the show.
We'd love to talk." - Okay.
- And as of this morning,
we have not received a response.
- Okay. - So, that's where we're at.
Now we gotta figure out with you
what the best next step is.
We have like, one idea but we're...
- Let me hear your idea. - Trying to follow your lead.
- Right. Right. Well, right.
You DM'd him and he got back to you.
We were thinking maybe one of us could DM him.
- If we DM him, he might get back to us.
- We thought we should both do it and
see who he gets back to first. - [sighs]
- You're all right? You're okay.
We're gonna figure this out. - Relax.
So, breathe. You're all right.
- So, I say both of you guys do it.
- Yes. - Do you think we should
both do it? All right. So-- - Both of you guys do it.
- So, let's send him a message. - You do your own
type of message, and I'll send my type of message.
- All right. - Yeah, that's cool.
- We should do it at the same time though.
All right, I'm ready.
Mine says, "Hey, Rich.
"We're shooting an episode of 'Catfish' now
"with your friend, Sheila, in Long Island.
"Would love to connect and try to meet up today.
Hit me back when you can." What'd you say?
I said, "Rich, what's good OG?" - [laughs]
"I'm doing 'Catfish' with my man on MTV.
"Been trying to get in contact with you.
Just hit me back ASAP."
- That's pretty good. - Yeah. Boom.
- Sheila? - Yes.
- How you feeling about all this?
- I'm really nervous.
- All right. Let's send them.
Three...two...one. Send.
Okay. Now, it's just a waiting game.
- Oh, boy.
- We both messaged Rich Dollaz.
Hopefully, he'll get back to us.
Sheila? - Yes.
- How you feeling about all this?
- I'm really nervous. Oh, boy.
- Here's what I think: if Rich has an assistant
maybe they're using his account
to DM to--to girls.
But the weird thing is like, if that were true,
why wouldn't they have like, tried to meet up?
Or said like, "Hey" as Rich?
Said like, "Hey, Sheila." like, "I'm busy tonight,
but my boy, so-and-so is gonna--is in your neighborhood.
Like, you should meet up with him. He's cool." Like--
- That's a no. That's a nah.
- Sure. But what if he said like, "I--I'm at this place.
I got some friends with me."
And you got there and like, Rich wasn't there,
but this guy was.
- And he was like, oh, Rich... - We're just saying if--
- If that scenario happened,
I'd be like-- I'd be leaving right away.
- You don't know that.
I'm saying, you never know what you might do.
- I will be like, [bleep] that and turn around.
- You haven't said, [bleep] that and turned around yet.
- I like Rich, but like... - You haven't left him yet.
- I think his sort of sass... - Mm-hmm.
- Is because he feels like
you're being taken advantage of.
- That absolutely is true.
- And you've let this guy run you around.
And he's saying, if he's been running you around this long,
like, who knows how-- what else he can do.
Now, you know your limit. But you have to acknowledge
that like, the relationship you've been having
with this guys has been very one-sided.
What Nick is saying-- - I see where--
I see where you're coming from, Nick.
I can absolutely understand what you're saying.
- So whatever happens today-- [phone dings]
Oh--oh. Oh.
I got a response. Do you have one?
- No, I don't got a response.
- It says: "Hey I need to meet with you guys ASAP.
Can you come to this address?" Okay.
Sounds like it's kinda urgent, and he wants to meet us.
I told him we're with you.
- [sighs]
- So let's do it.
- You all right? - You okay?
- [exhales deeply] Now that you went through
the account and everything, I feel a little upset.
I just think that it's not him,
and somebody else is gonna pop out.
- But everything that we found seemed to indicate
that it is him. - I think he's just nervous.
- I've never been in a situation on the show
where we've been talking to someone
who has a verified account.
If this was a-- an unknown person
in the middle of nowhere,
I'd for sure expect it not to be them.
But, it's him and he's in New York.
And it's his Instagram account.
Like--so, I'm leaning towards it actually is him.
Who knows? - Yeah.
- Maybe he wants to meet us at this beautiful park
with the city skyline behind
so that he can get on his knees and propose?
- You know-- - You know what?
Let's just think some positive thoughts,
and we can get some positivity flowing, too.
'Cause we don't know. - Just gotta take it.
You gotta take this leap.
- I do think we should go. I mean, he said, "ASAP."
He seems to wanna meet you.
Only one way to really find out the truth.
Let's confront this guy.
- All right. The moment of truth.
What are you thinking about?
- I was kind of angry before.
- Yeah, you were fired up. - Yeah, you was.
- You guys--you're not a woman,
so y'all really wouldn't understand.
- No, totally. I understand just the questions
and the concerns are all swirling around.
It's hard not to get emotional.
- ♪ No turning back ♪
♪ Only God knows what we're... ♪
- I have to say, if this is bogus,
this is the most convincing catfish
that I'll have ever seen.
- Yeah.
♪ ♪
- ♪ I'll never tell ♪
- This is a weird place to meet.
Kind of random, I mean, I don't know.
- [sighs] - Obviously if you get upset,
and you feel like the best decision for you
in the moment is to like, walk away.
That's fine.
- ♪ Bled out ♪
- Let's just stop here. - Wow. It was that close?
I didn't even have time to like,
think for a second.
- Don't be scared.
- Here we are.
- Oh, my God. I'm scared, you guys.
[exhales deeply] - All right.
We can take a second. - No, [bleep] this.
Let's just get this [bleep] over with, yo.
- You ready? - Yeah.
- I'm nervous myself. Can I wait in the car?
I'm scared. - [laughs]
- I'm really scared.
- Come on, yo. I need you, Nick.
- This is your moment to find out what you've
been waiting to find out. - [sighs]
Ready. - Let's do it.
[intense music]
♪ ♪
He should be anywhere in here.
He said to meet at this like, intersection.
So, he's somewhere around here. - Oh.
- Oh, my [bleep] heart is like...
- Should be here.
Is that him? - Oh, my God. Yeah.
- Oh, my God. - What?
- Yeah, son. - What?
- Oh, my [bleep] God. - Is that him?
- That's him. - Oh, my God.
No it's not. - Yes it is.
- He seems to be waving very enthusiastically.
- That's him. - Oh, my God. Oh, my
God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
- This is crazy.
- He's somewhere around here. - Oh, my [bleep].
- That's him right there. In the pink.
- Is that-- - That is him.
- Is that him? - That's him, yeah.
- Oh, my God. - What?
- Yeah, son. - What?
- Oh, my [bleep] God.
- Is that-- - That's him.
- Oh, my God. No, it's not.
- Yes it is.
- He seems to be waving very enthusiastically.
- That's him. - Oh, my [bleep] God.
- For real. - Oh, my God.
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
- This is crazy.
- It's good though. - That's good.
He seems happy to see you. - I'm scared.
- No, you good.
Well, it happens with me on here.
You discover love.
- I can't believe this. - Oh, my God.
He's so [bleep] sexy. Like, damn.
- Breathe, breathe. Don't act too--don't act
like you too ready.
- Oh, my God. - Just act normal like--yeah.
Act casual. - Do you want us to walk up
all together-- - Walk with me, please.
Walk with me, please.
- What's up, Rich?
- What up?
- What's going on? - Good to meet you.
- What's up, buddy?
How you? - All right, man.
- What's going on, big dolla? My man.
- All right. - Okay, yeah.
- Sheila. - This is Sheila.
- Hello. - How are you?
- I'm great. - Yeah?
- It's a pleasure to meet you.
Um, this is crazy. Like, the whole situation.
This is all crazy, so I'm just gonna...
You called me yesterday. I was shooting yesterday.
- Wait--so, that was your phone number?
- That is my phone. - Okay.
So, is Jose some kind of fake outgoing message?
- Yeah. - Okay.
- This has been going on for some time now, right?
And I'm kind of--I'm sorry that it's been going on
for that amount of time, like...
But I mean, I gotta say,
it hasn't been me, bro.
- It hasn't been you? - It has not been me, bro.
It has not been me.
- Wait. What?
- I'll give you the rundown. So, I see your DM.
- Right. - When I saw it,
I'm like, "What the [bleep] is going on here?
- Right. - Social media is--is crazy.
- Sure. - I get lots of DMs,
but I'm not--I'm not--man, I'm an old man, bro.
I can't be on Instagram, in DMs,
and talking to people and craziness like that.
- So, who is sending her messages?
- I don't do my own social media page.
I haven't done my own social media page
in quite some time.
So, I mean, I'm--I'm sorry that--and I don't wanna
be, like, a prick on here and, you know, but
it hasn't--it hasn't been me.
The conversations that you've been having
haven't been with me.
And I feel bad about it
here, today but...
I mean...
- So, who has it been with?
[tense music]
- Rove!
So, that's my nephew, Rove, the guy you're looking for.
- How you doing? - Hey, what's going on?
- Hey, Nev. - What's going on? Rove.
- What's up, big dog? - What's up, brother?
How you doing? - Hey.
- This is Sheila. - How you doing?
- All right. - All right, respect.
- All right. So--so, we're just
finding out what's been going on here.
- I just have one question, that's all.
- Yeah, please. Please. - How many different
girls are you doing this too?
- Well, I get thousands and thousands on DM.
So, I just basically go through the--the DMs
and whichever I find to-- whichever one is the one,
I'll click it and just have fun with her.
- She replied. I replied back.
That's about it.
- Yeah, that's some [bleep] up [bleep].
Okay, so--so many. So, do you know like,
specifically our conversation
of who you're talking to? Or is it just whatever?
Say whatever when you see it? - Just--it's just whatever,
because, you know, I take Instagram as joke.
'Cause I don't really take Instagram serious with the DMs.
- Well, you take his Instagram as a joke.
- [laughs] - Yeah.
- How old are you?
- I'm old enough.
- It did look a lot younger.
Like, some of the posts you did.
- Are you in your 20s? - Yeah, in my 20s.
- All right. You're in your 20s.
- Okay, like, what are you trying to get out of it?
Nudes and stuff?
- 'Cause, you know, he's asking for...
- Yeah. - Pictures and videos.
- Yeah. - You asked?
- Well, she sent--
- Uh-uh. Hold up, let's take that back.
You asked. I said, "Hey."
The first thing I ever said was, "Hey."
The second thing you said was, "Send videos."
After that, I'm talking to you, and you're just,
"Send videos. Send videos."
- Who wouldn't wanna send nudes to Rich Dollaz?
- I'm getting a sense that you don't feel like
you've really done anything wrong.
Which is kind of crazy.
- I mean, I took it as a joke,
'cause I guess the Instagram is just a joke.
A lot of girls just slide into the DMs.
It's just a joke, so I don't really--
- I'm a joke now. Did he just really--just call me a joke?
- You realize what you're doing is really [bleep] up?
And you shouldn't be doing it?
- I think I was just having fun with it.
- I don't think it's something that you can just brush off,
and be like, "Aw, it's just for fun."
What's fun for you, is not really fun
for all these women that think they're sending
provocative photos to someone that
they really, like, care about.
She's a caring woman, and she really like,
was looking forward to a meaningful relationship.
- Not everything's perfect.
Not everything's perfect.
I mean, I thought she would have got the hint
when I never met up with her or never really did
all that phone calling, you know, stuff like that.
- That's bull[bleep], though.
You don't carry it on for eight months.
That's bull[bleep]. - Like I said,
at that moment, I was just entertained by her,
so I just kept feeding it.
Just putting fuel to the fire. - Dude.
- Just kept going with it. Whatever, whatever.
- You really seem like a huge [bleep] head.
- I'm not condoning what he's doing.
He's dead wrong, but if you slid inside someone's DMs
to smash, and I ain't smashing--
- I didn't get in your supposedly DM--
or whoever the hell--him-- to smash.
The reason why I really reached out--I just seen him like,
emotion--like, open up on TV. - Right.
- So, I'm like, "This is a person who can
put his heart out there," so I was attracted to that.
- Somebody sees you on TV. - Sure.
- Somebody sees you on the basketball court.
[bleep] loads of girls-- whoa, da-da-da-da.
But how do you--you don't-- you can't fall in love
with somebody you don't know.
- It is possible to fall or catch feelings
for somebody you don't know. This is "Catfish."
Doesn't that happen all the time?
- You can't fault her for thinking--
- No, I'm not faulting her. - Okay, and look--look,
just to give you-- - He's trying to like,
I feel like everything little thing has been
like, "Oh, how you fall in love with a person?"
"How do you go--let it go on for so long?"
You on me more than you on your nephew.
Oh, I can't. I can't. I can't.
- I'm sorry. And you seem like, angry.
- I am. [bleep] it.
It's better than being sad. I'm mad.
- Like, when you go on to the DM...
- Uh-huh? - Well, that's over.
I took over my own social media
as of--as of today. - Okay.
- Now all of a sudden he's taking over his DM today.
- Well, we're here. - Right, right.
- So I don't know that it's in my best interest to--
- Well, you gotta watch out for yourself, too.
- Exactly. - Because you've got lots
of people talking about how
you're flirting with them.
You can get him in trouble. - That's a mess.
- Right. - Again, I apologize.
- All right, Rich. Doesn't seem like
you have anything to do with this,
but we do wanna talk with Rove.
Rich, thank you for coming here.
- Yeah, thank you for coming here.
- If I was Rich, I would have been hot.
Like, "[bleep] why you [bleep] doing it
for eight months?" That's--that's stupid.
You're a creep. You're a real pervert.
I'm gonna say it, 'cause that's some real bull [bleep].
- Uh-uh. Just--it was all fun and games.
You say something. You say "jump," they jump.
It's just funny, because they listen to him.
And you know, Rich is Rich. - They jump?
- You know? You be like, "Send nudes."
They'll send it. - That's messed up, man.
- But eight months, thought, that's crazy to me.
- That's some cold-blooded [bleep].
- You know, it's not like I'm putting it
out there on social media. - I hope not.
It concerns me that at no point did you think like,
[inhales sharply] "I feel bad.
This isn't cool. I shouldn't be doing this."
- Like, you don't need to go--
keep--prolong this time for like eight months.
- All the other chicks don't last more than
two months--three months, to be honest.
- Why? 'Cause they-- - So, what was it about--
- Yeah, why am I the main girl out of these millions of girls?
- A million girls could write into DM right now, but
they could just write, "Hey." - All right, but I'm the main--
- It's a million "heys" but
you were the one who sent the whole bunch of stuff.
- I can't with this.
I need a break, you guys.
- Okay, just--just walk with me for a second.
I just wanna kind of check in, just 'cause we haven't
had a second to kind of... - Okay.
- Debrief.
All right. So, look.
First of all, I don't think it's fair
that both Rich and...
this guy...
- Seem to think it's a little bit your fault,
and also, like, not a big deal and funny.
Like, it's not funny.
- It's not. - It's not a game.
- How you gonna switch that all on me?
- I agree. - And then half the things
I'm saying to this man-- it's not even adding up.
- Hey, look. The point is,
what he did is [bleep] up. - Yep.
- Not just to you, but to everybody.
I think he's lying to himself.
And he's trying to convince himself that like,
"Oh, these girls don't care. They just think it's fun."
- Yeah. - But it's not.
This is not something you can just brush off,
and be like, "Oh, it's just for fun."
It seems like he's getting off on this.
- It was just having fun. It was joking.
- But she's not laughing at that.
- She not laughing, I know. But I thought it was--
- You been doing it for eight months...
- I thought she was faking 'cause of the pictures she sent
the way she was talking,
so I thought it was a catfish.
- I'm not that catfish, I'm not buying it.
I know...
I seen the pictures she sent you.
- Uh-huh? - Some of them.
I seen you ask, some crazy [bleep],
like "Play with yourself," or something.
- Yeah, I wrote that. I wrote that, but--
- But you can't be playing that long, bro.
You can't be playing for eight months.
That--I'm not buying that.
- If you was in my shoes, you would see it,
because you just DM so much.
- What you mean I'm not in your shoes?
I get DMs every day. - I know. I know, I know.
I'm saying, I'm saying-- - I'm just saying,
I'm in your shoes-- my boy's in your shoes.
Of course everybody in the world see this.
- Yeah, of course they do. - Yeah, yeah.
- They gonna see that he's a real pervert.
You look like a creep for keeping this going
and pretending to be somebody.
[brooding music]
- You had to know that she was serious.
- You know, she took it serious.
It was a joke. It's her loss.
[dramatic music]
It's fun and games. I--I mean--
- When you're making fun and game and jokes
out of someone else's life, like, that's where
it starts to become problematic.
- Well, I ain't see it like that.
And I apologize.
- Well, I think you did.
You took advantage of you uncle.
You took advantage of her.
You took advantage of a lot of these women.
You did hurt people.
And--and you're not gonna get a chance
to hear from all the other girls who may be hurt
that they sent nudes, because you probably think,
"Oh, it's no big deal if they sent me nudes.
They probably send nudes all the time."
But maybe they don't. It's [bleep] up.
What you did is wrong.
- You gotta see something wrong right there.
I don't care if you're a kid--19...
- I already told you, I ain't see nothing wrong in it.
It would just-- yo, time flew by.
- You're not playing with her though.
That's not playing--it's not--
- After today, it's done. That's it.
You know, I said my apologies.
It's not gonna--that's it-- would never happen again,
not to no female on this planet.
- That's cool.
I'll take the rap for everybody
so that never happens to anybody.
- ♪ It's not love ♪
♪ It's not love so come on let it be ♪
- We're gonna chill here a minute,
but you can head on out.
- Take care. - See you later.
- [clears throat]
- So save us from defeat ♪
- You handled yourself well.
Anybody in your situation
would have thought they were talking to him.
- Yeah. - That's not on you.
What's really important here-- and you already know this--
if you're going to give a lot of yourself to someone,
- Mm-hmm. - You gotta expect them
to give back. - Yeah.
- And you just weren't getting that.
- You know what? I missed the signs.
I lived another day to learn something very valuable.
- All right. Let's get out of here.
- [sighs] - Hey.
It's not your fault.
You really a real G.
Give me some. - That's what's up.
♪ ♪
[Skype chiming]
- Oh. - Oh, she right there.
- Hey! What's going on, you guys?
- Look at you, new hairdo, new colors, and all that.
- What have you been doing with all your free time
now that you're not, uh, creeping on Rich Dollaz?
- I've just been focusing on my music,
and just focusing on my daughter, that's it.
- Are you dating anyone? Are you looking for love?
- I'm not really dating anyone,
but I'm talking to someone. - Oh.
- You actually seen this person, right, or...
- No, I haven't seen the person.
- Wait, really? So this is someone new
that you've been talking to that you met online?
- Yes. - [sighs]
- Who is it? Anyone we know?
- Oh, no, I ain't saying no names.
- Is he a celebrity? - Um, somewhat.
- Ray J? - [laughs]
That's... I'm done.
[laughs] No, it's not Ray J.
- Is it, like, a verified account?
- Um, yeah.
- I didn't realize you only dated verified...
[laughter] Accounts.
One at a time, you know.
Having gone through what you went through,
have you done anything to sort of early on
before it gets serious make sure that
you know you're talking to this person?
- I definitely know that if I continue to talk
to anybody, I will definitely have to get a FaceTime
or just a real confirmation.
- No more of the videos and pictures and stuff.
- No, I don't--none of that. - Okay.
- Just be careful out there, all right?
- All right, you too.
- All right. - All right. Bye.
- Bye.
[Skype chiming]
- Yo. - Yo, what's up?
How are things going for you? - Things going good.
Focusing on myself more.
- You mean focusing on yourself versus
all the women you were DM'ing as your uncle?
- Yeah. Just, like, avoiding all that.
- You sure though? Or you just telling us this?
- It's over for that. That's it. No more.
- Did you get in any trouble with Rich?
- No, he just basically told me
what it was, no more social media,
no more running his Instagram account, so.
- Right. How do you feel about Sheila?
- I mean, she seems cool, man.
She's a human being just like me, you know?
And I did feel bad after I knew what she really was
and knew she really had a kid and stuff like that.
Like, you know, she's a woman at the end of the day.
- Well, glad it's over.
Sounds like you learned a little something.
You're done playing games.
So be good, and, uh, hopefully
you know, we won't be seeing you
on any more episodes of "Catfish."
- Right, definitely won't. - All right.
See you. - All right.
- You've been in an online relationship