1 00:00:07,179 --> 00:00:09,181 - ♪ MTV ♪ 2 00:00:09,250 --> 00:00:13,220 - I met Piers when I was 13 in an anime fandom page. 3 00:00:13,289 --> 00:00:15,118 He lives in London. 4 00:00:15,187 --> 00:00:17,707 I felt like I was writing a diary to him. 5 00:00:17,776 --> 00:00:19,329 Like, I told him everything. 6 00:00:19,398 --> 00:00:22,332 - I feel like we've got one shot to find this guy 7 00:00:22,401 --> 00:00:23,437 before he disappears again. 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,682 - What? 9 00:00:27,751 --> 00:00:28,580 - Someone's not telling the truth. 10 00:00:28,649 --> 00:00:29,822 - This is really weird. 11 00:00:29,891 --> 00:00:31,514 - [gasps] - You see that person? 12 00:00:31,583 --> 00:00:33,378 - Who is that? - Hi. 13 00:00:33,447 --> 00:00:34,413 Here we go. 14 00:00:34,482 --> 00:00:37,761 [dramatic music] 15 00:00:37,830 --> 00:00:40,523 - How am I feeling today? 16 00:00:40,592 --> 00:00:42,042 Ah, this is me every day. 17 00:00:42,111 --> 00:00:44,078 - "Ask me about the fucks I give." 18 00:00:44,147 --> 00:00:46,770 [laughs] - I'm always out. Fresh out. 19 00:00:46,839 --> 00:00:47,875 - And you want to know how I feel 20 00:00:47,944 --> 00:00:50,291 about starting work today? - [laughs] 21 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,844 - Sorry. - Sorry. 22 00:00:51,913 --> 00:00:53,743 - Put it officially. Put it right here. 23 00:00:53,812 --> 00:00:56,366 - Yeah, that gives me confidence. 24 00:00:56,435 --> 00:00:57,574 - We'll put that right there. 25 00:00:57,643 --> 00:00:59,749 Catfish, be warned. 26 00:00:59,818 --> 00:01:00,991 All right, let's see what we got. 27 00:01:01,061 --> 00:01:02,683 Here we go. We got an email. 28 00:01:02,752 --> 00:01:04,823 "Dear Nev and Kamie. 29 00:01:04,892 --> 00:01:08,861 "My name is Reign, she/her. I'm 20. 30 00:01:08,930 --> 00:01:13,245 Live in Houston and currently work at a pizza restaurant." 31 00:01:13,314 --> 00:01:15,834 - I wonder if they have gluten-free crust. 32 00:01:15,903 --> 00:01:17,594 - "I started being homeschooled 33 00:01:17,663 --> 00:01:19,079 "in the seventh grade. 34 00:01:19,148 --> 00:01:21,840 "I felt isolated and alone and spent most of 35 00:01:21,909 --> 00:01:24,532 "my free time online in fandoms. 36 00:01:24,601 --> 00:01:26,534 "Being part of these fandoms felt 37 00:01:26,603 --> 00:01:29,261 "very much like a home for me. 38 00:01:29,330 --> 00:01:31,298 "Seven years ago, I messaged a boy 39 00:01:31,367 --> 00:01:34,266 "named Piers after he made a funny comment 40 00:01:34,335 --> 00:01:36,682 "on my friend's post. 41 00:01:36,751 --> 00:01:38,684 "He was two years older than me, 42 00:01:38,753 --> 00:01:40,893 "but we immediately became best friends. 43 00:01:40,962 --> 00:01:42,412 "We were talking to each other daily, 44 00:01:42,481 --> 00:01:45,381 "and we even stayed up DMing each other at night. 45 00:01:45,450 --> 00:01:48,522 "I was secretly convinced he was the one for me. 46 00:01:48,591 --> 00:01:50,869 - ♪ You and me ♪ 47 00:01:50,938 --> 00:01:53,389 - "But I understood it probably wouldn't work out 48 00:01:53,458 --> 00:01:55,598 because he lived in London." 49 00:01:55,667 --> 00:01:57,738 - Piers from London. - Wow. 50 00:01:57,807 --> 00:02:01,086 - ♪ So far, oh, oh ♪ 51 00:02:01,155 --> 00:02:03,261 ♪ I'm holding onto this ♪ 52 00:02:03,330 --> 00:02:07,230 - "Also, Piers has always been mysterious. 53 00:02:07,299 --> 00:02:09,715 "He wouldn't tell me his last name, 54 00:02:09,784 --> 00:02:13,133 "and the page we talked on was a fandom page. 55 00:02:13,202 --> 00:02:16,584 "He also had a habit of going no contact for months 56 00:02:16,653 --> 00:02:19,000 "at a time with no explanation. 57 00:02:19,069 --> 00:02:21,796 "After some time, the months turned into years, 58 00:02:21,865 --> 00:02:24,247 "and I thought I had lost him, 59 00:02:24,316 --> 00:02:27,733 "but a few weeks ago, after four years, 60 00:02:27,802 --> 00:02:29,839 we finally reconnected." - No. 61 00:02:29,908 --> 00:02:31,634 - "I was so happy to hear from him, 62 00:02:31,703 --> 00:02:33,670 "and this feels like an opportunity 63 00:02:33,739 --> 00:02:36,811 "I cannot pass up to find out who he is 64 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,744 "and what his true intentions are. 65 00:02:38,813 --> 00:02:40,298 "I hope to hear from you. 66 00:02:40,367 --> 00:02:42,231 Love, Reign." 67 00:02:42,300 --> 00:02:44,923 ♪ ♪ 68 00:02:45,717 --> 00:02:47,788 Wow. - Seven years? 69 00:02:47,857 --> 00:02:49,548 We haven't had one that goes this far back 70 00:02:49,617 --> 00:02:50,894 in a long time. - Yeah. 71 00:02:50,963 --> 00:02:52,482 - Four years you go missing on me? 72 00:02:52,551 --> 00:02:54,415 Forget it. Four hours? 73 00:02:54,484 --> 00:02:55,589 Forget it. 74 00:02:55,658 --> 00:02:56,866 - And after four hours, you're-- 75 00:02:56,935 --> 00:02:57,901 - I'm done. - You're done? 76 00:02:57,970 --> 00:02:59,006 - I'm single. - [laughs] 77 00:02:59,075 --> 00:03:00,594 - Back on the apps. - All right. 78 00:03:00,663 --> 00:03:03,562 Let's give Reign a call. 79 00:03:03,631 --> 00:03:06,358 [line trilling] 80 00:03:06,427 --> 00:03:08,257 - Hello. Is this Reign? 81 00:03:08,326 --> 00:03:09,499 - Hey. - Hey! 82 00:03:09,568 --> 00:03:11,812 - Reign, it's Nev and Kamie. 83 00:03:13,054 --> 00:03:14,884 - We're good. We just read your email. 84 00:03:14,953 --> 00:03:17,645 Your head must be spinning. 85 00:03:17,714 --> 00:03:19,302 - How did he just sort of pop back up? 86 00:03:31,418 --> 00:03:34,041 - So then you guys now are talking again? 87 00:03:34,110 --> 00:03:35,905 - And is he just acting like nothing 88 00:03:35,974 --> 00:03:38,977 even happened for four years? 89 00:03:39,046 --> 00:03:41,566 - And you still have a real desire... 90 00:03:41,635 --> 00:03:43,188 - To be with him? 91 00:03:43,257 --> 00:03:44,741 - After all these years? 92 00:03:47,744 --> 00:03:49,021 - All right, well, look, we want to help. 93 00:03:49,090 --> 00:03:51,541 So we'll come down to Houston, and, hopefully, 94 00:03:51,610 --> 00:03:53,025 we can help you sort it out. 95 00:03:54,268 --> 00:03:55,752 - All right. - See you soon. 96 00:03:55,821 --> 00:03:57,029 - Bye, Reign. 97 00:03:58,859 --> 00:04:00,585 - I can't believe that she's still 98 00:04:00,654 --> 00:04:01,620 giving this person the time of day. 99 00:04:01,689 --> 00:04:02,656 - I know. - Something's up. 100 00:04:02,725 --> 00:04:04,140 - Yeah. 101 00:04:04,209 --> 00:04:06,176 - Could somebody new have gotten access to his page? 102 00:04:06,246 --> 00:04:07,764 - I was thinking that too. - Yeah, I don't know. 103 00:04:07,833 --> 00:04:09,041 It's weird. 104 00:04:09,110 --> 00:04:10,836 - All I know is that if this guy Reigns 105 00:04:10,905 --> 00:04:13,080 on her parade, 106 00:04:13,149 --> 00:04:14,737 there will be no tears for Piers. 107 00:04:14,806 --> 00:04:16,359 - [laughs] 108 00:04:16,428 --> 00:04:18,119 - How long have you been hanging on to that? 109 00:04:18,188 --> 00:04:19,673 - Let's go. 110 00:04:19,742 --> 00:04:21,916 -♪ I, I ♪ 111 00:04:21,985 --> 00:04:23,953 ♪ I can have you ♪ 112 00:04:24,022 --> 00:04:25,541 ♪ I know I can ♪ 113 00:04:25,610 --> 00:04:28,371 - All right. - H-Town. 114 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,339 Going down. 115 00:04:30,408 --> 00:04:32,237 I just want to roll down the window and be like, 116 00:04:32,306 --> 00:04:36,690 Beyoncé! Beyoncé, where are you? 117 00:04:36,759 --> 00:04:38,899 - I just wonder where Piers lives. 118 00:04:38,968 --> 00:04:40,141 - He said he's from London. 119 00:04:40,210 --> 00:04:41,902 - Maybe we have to go to London. 120 00:04:41,971 --> 00:04:43,179 - He's not from London. 121 00:04:43,248 --> 00:04:45,319 - There's definitely some London fog... 122 00:04:45,388 --> 00:04:46,216 - Yeah. 123 00:04:46,286 --> 00:04:47,563 - Around this whole situation. 124 00:04:47,632 --> 00:04:50,186 That's for sure. 125 00:04:50,255 --> 00:04:51,670 [grunts] 126 00:04:51,739 --> 00:04:53,534 Oh, Reign. 127 00:04:53,603 --> 00:04:54,949 You're all ready out here. 128 00:04:55,018 --> 00:04:56,572 - Hello. - Hi. 129 00:04:56,641 --> 00:04:57,573 - Hi. - Nice to meet you. 130 00:04:57,642 --> 00:04:59,057 - Nice to meet you. 131 00:04:59,126 --> 00:05:00,230 Can I hug you too? - This is so nice. 132 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:01,335 - Yeah, of course. 133 00:05:01,404 --> 00:05:03,130 - This is such a charming, older home. 134 00:05:03,199 --> 00:05:06,340 - This is a duplex, basically. - This is cool. 135 00:05:06,409 --> 00:05:08,515 - You have cats? - I have two cats and a dog. 136 00:05:08,584 --> 00:05:09,516 - Where are they? 137 00:05:09,585 --> 00:05:10,586 - This is Luanne. 138 00:05:10,655 --> 00:05:12,622 - [gasps] Oh, my goodness. 139 00:05:12,691 --> 00:05:14,383 Look at you being so good. 140 00:05:14,452 --> 00:05:15,798 - Oh, my gosh. 141 00:05:15,867 --> 00:05:17,213 - What a sweetie. 142 00:05:17,282 --> 00:05:19,491 - I just want to investigate this dog. 143 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:20,941 - She is just so cute. 144 00:05:21,010 --> 00:05:22,701 - Love her. OK. 145 00:05:22,770 --> 00:05:24,600 All right, let's get into it. 146 00:05:24,669 --> 00:05:26,395 Yeah. [purrs] 147 00:05:26,464 --> 00:05:27,568 - Hello. 148 00:05:27,637 --> 00:05:29,432 - I have another cat, but they're hiding. 149 00:05:29,501 --> 00:05:31,054 I hope Charlie comes out. 150 00:05:31,123 --> 00:05:33,022 - Charlie is the other one? - Yes. 151 00:05:33,091 --> 00:05:35,783 So Piers's first name is Charlie. 152 00:05:35,852 --> 00:05:36,957 He goes by his middle name. 153 00:05:37,026 --> 00:05:39,822 I named my cat after Piers. 154 00:05:39,891 --> 00:05:41,479 - Whoa. 155 00:05:41,548 --> 00:05:44,861 Before we can even really understand how much meaning 156 00:05:44,930 --> 00:05:48,520 you assign to the namesake of your cat, 157 00:05:48,589 --> 00:05:51,834 I think we need to understand the relationship with Piers 158 00:05:51,903 --> 00:05:52,973 from the beginning. 159 00:05:53,042 --> 00:05:54,871 How did all this start? 160 00:05:54,940 --> 00:05:57,322 - So I was with my dad in Buffalo, New York, 161 00:05:57,391 --> 00:05:58,979 and I came back to live with my mom 162 00:05:59,048 --> 00:06:02,154 when I was 11 with my brother here in Houston. 163 00:06:02,223 --> 00:06:05,399 And just a lot of weird energies back and forth 164 00:06:05,468 --> 00:06:07,850 because we weren't with her for a long time. 165 00:06:07,919 --> 00:06:09,299 She was just never really a mother figure. 166 00:06:09,369 --> 00:06:11,474 It just felt like she wasn't there, 167 00:06:11,543 --> 00:06:14,512 and I didn't feel safe, 168 00:06:14,581 --> 00:06:17,135 and then I started being homeschooled. 169 00:06:17,204 --> 00:06:18,585 So I was at home a lot. 170 00:06:18,654 --> 00:06:21,277 I just felt isolated, and I wasn't around people 171 00:06:21,346 --> 00:06:26,144 my age, and I, like, used my phone as an outlet, 172 00:06:26,213 --> 00:06:29,458 and I found people through it in the community. 173 00:06:29,527 --> 00:06:34,601 I met Piers when I was 13 in an anime fandom page. 174 00:06:34,670 --> 00:06:38,777 My friend Sam had a meme account on Instagram, 175 00:06:38,846 --> 00:06:39,847 and Piers commented, 176 00:06:39,916 --> 00:06:43,161 and I responded. 177 00:06:43,230 --> 00:06:45,543 And then we started talking on direct message, 178 00:06:45,612 --> 00:06:50,064 and our friendship took off after that. 179 00:06:50,133 --> 00:06:51,928 - What kind of things did you guys talk about? 180 00:06:51,997 --> 00:06:53,861 - I would always talk to him about things 181 00:06:53,930 --> 00:06:55,380 that were happening at home. 182 00:06:55,449 --> 00:06:58,556 [somber music] 183 00:06:58,625 --> 00:07:01,524 I didn't get the help I needed at the time. 184 00:07:01,593 --> 00:07:03,215 ♪ ♪ 185 00:07:03,284 --> 00:07:05,804 And that help was Piers. 186 00:07:05,873 --> 00:07:07,910 ♪ ♪ 187 00:07:07,979 --> 00:07:10,291 I felt like I was writing a diary to him. 188 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,156 Like, I was-- I told him everything. 189 00:07:13,225 --> 00:07:18,645 He was there for me all that time. 190 00:07:18,714 --> 00:07:20,094 - Mm. 191 00:07:20,163 --> 00:07:22,096 It's all making sense now. 192 00:07:22,165 --> 00:07:24,651 - And were you mostly speaking via text? 193 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,275 - We were DMing on Instagram, and we also had a group chat. 194 00:07:28,344 --> 00:07:30,346 - But never on the phone? - Mm-mm. 195 00:07:30,415 --> 00:07:32,659 - So when you first started communicating with Piers, 196 00:07:32,728 --> 00:07:35,903 it was via his profile on this fandom page? 197 00:07:35,972 --> 00:07:37,491 - Yeah. 198 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:38,906 - Did he have a picture of himself on his profile? 199 00:07:38,975 --> 00:07:40,563 - Mm-mm. 200 00:07:40,632 --> 00:07:43,601 I think we had anime characters as our profile pictures. 201 00:07:43,670 --> 00:07:46,466 - So at first, you didn't know what Piers looked like? 202 00:07:46,535 --> 00:07:48,916 - You know, we just had mutual interests, 203 00:07:48,985 --> 00:07:52,644 and we were able to bond in a special way. 204 00:07:52,713 --> 00:07:54,681 - Do you have pictures of yourself on your page? 205 00:07:54,750 --> 00:07:56,752 No. So you both just-- 206 00:07:56,821 --> 00:07:58,581 I mean, it's like total anonymity? 207 00:07:58,650 --> 00:07:59,824 - Yeah. 208 00:07:59,893 --> 00:08:01,411 - But at some point, you guys exchanged photos? 209 00:08:01,481 --> 00:08:05,243 - Yes, but that was probably four or five months 210 00:08:05,312 --> 00:08:07,245 after knowing him. 211 00:08:07,314 --> 00:08:12,043 - OK, so I'm imagining you found him to be attractive? 212 00:08:12,112 --> 00:08:13,251 Tell us about Piers. 213 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:14,494 What do you know about him? 214 00:08:14,563 --> 00:08:17,842 - I know that he lives in London. 215 00:08:17,911 --> 00:08:21,673 He's two years older than me. He's very funny. 216 00:08:21,742 --> 00:08:22,950 - OK. 217 00:08:23,019 --> 00:08:25,194 At what point in your back-and-forth 218 00:08:25,263 --> 00:08:27,576 did it feel like it was more than a friendship? 219 00:08:27,645 --> 00:08:29,612 - I feel like right off the bat, 220 00:08:29,681 --> 00:08:32,546 it felt like we were both attracted to each other. 221 00:08:32,615 --> 00:08:34,410 - Even though you hadn't seen each other? 222 00:08:34,479 --> 00:08:37,689 - Yeah. Like, I knew I was attracted to him, 223 00:08:37,758 --> 00:08:39,553 and that's why I was texting him all the time. 224 00:08:39,622 --> 00:08:42,107 - So there was a strong mental connection there 225 00:08:42,176 --> 00:08:43,488 before you even knew what he looked like? 226 00:08:43,557 --> 00:08:44,731 - Yeah. 227 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,318 - Did you guys ever talk about, like, meeting up, 228 00:08:46,387 --> 00:08:47,906 or are you going to London 229 00:08:47,975 --> 00:08:49,356 or him coming to the United States? 230 00:08:49,425 --> 00:08:51,979 - We made jokes about it, but we weren't ever really, 231 00:08:52,048 --> 00:08:53,705 like, too serious because we were kids, 232 00:08:53,774 --> 00:08:56,570 and we didn't have the money and the time. 233 00:08:56,639 --> 00:08:58,538 Of course, like, we're older, but I don't think 234 00:08:58,607 --> 00:09:00,988 we're thinking that far ahead. - Yeah. 235 00:09:01,057 --> 00:09:03,094 - But then he started disappearing 236 00:09:03,163 --> 00:09:06,891 for weeks, months at a time. 237 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,789 - What happened when he came back? 238 00:09:08,858 --> 00:09:10,204 How did that happen? 239 00:09:10,273 --> 00:09:12,206 - When he came back, he didn't explain anything. 240 00:09:12,275 --> 00:09:15,347 It was-- it just went back from where it stopped. 241 00:09:15,416 --> 00:09:16,970 So then it happened again. 242 00:09:17,039 --> 00:09:19,248 And it was just a constant cycle 243 00:09:19,317 --> 00:09:21,975 of the same thing of like, disappearing in and out. 244 00:09:22,044 --> 00:09:23,735 - And how long did that go on for? 245 00:09:23,804 --> 00:09:25,634 - It happened like three or four times, 246 00:09:25,703 --> 00:09:30,535 and then he disappeared for a good four years after that. 247 00:09:30,604 --> 00:09:32,744 - And no explanation any of these times? 248 00:09:32,813 --> 00:09:34,297 Did you ever confront him, or were you ever like, 249 00:09:34,366 --> 00:09:35,782 "Where the fuck have you been 250 00:09:35,851 --> 00:09:37,369 for the past how many months?" 251 00:09:37,438 --> 00:09:40,062 - No, because I have this love for him. 252 00:09:40,131 --> 00:09:41,753 I couldn't get it out of my head. 253 00:09:41,822 --> 00:09:43,306 - Right. 254 00:09:43,375 --> 00:09:45,101 - I'm very curious to see what Piers looks like. 255 00:09:45,170 --> 00:09:46,102 - Do you want me to show you right now? 256 00:09:46,171 --> 00:09:47,448 - Can you? - Yeah. 257 00:09:47,517 --> 00:09:50,175 This is what I have of Piers. 258 00:09:50,244 --> 00:09:51,383 - Good-looking guy. - Cute. 259 00:09:51,452 --> 00:09:52,246 - Yeah. 260 00:09:52,315 --> 00:09:53,247 - This guy could be from England. 261 00:09:53,316 --> 00:09:54,732 - Oh, yeah. - [chuckles] 262 00:09:54,801 --> 00:09:56,975 - So tell us more about this anime group chat 263 00:09:57,044 --> 00:09:58,390 that you and Piers were in. 264 00:09:58,459 --> 00:10:00,358 - Well, so in the group chat, 265 00:10:00,427 --> 00:10:04,293 it was Samantha, Piers, my friend Chloe, 266 00:10:04,362 --> 00:10:06,398 and my other friend John. 267 00:10:06,467 --> 00:10:08,608 And we were all like a family. 268 00:10:08,677 --> 00:10:10,368 Well, it was like a family to me. 269 00:10:10,437 --> 00:10:12,750 - Who brought everybody into the group chat? 270 00:10:12,819 --> 00:10:14,268 - Samantha. 271 00:10:14,337 --> 00:10:16,063 - How did you get connected with Samantha initially? 272 00:10:16,132 --> 00:10:17,444 - I met her in the fandom. 273 00:10:17,513 --> 00:10:19,273 - And all of these other people, 274 00:10:19,342 --> 00:10:21,793 you also have not met them in real life? 275 00:10:21,862 --> 00:10:25,279 So it was all through the fandom, all online? 276 00:10:25,348 --> 00:10:27,350 - So of all the people in the group chat, 277 00:10:27,419 --> 00:10:29,387 have you talked to any of them on the phone? 278 00:10:29,456 --> 00:10:31,423 - I've FaceTimed Chloe. 279 00:10:31,492 --> 00:10:33,702 I'm in contact with Chloe still. 280 00:10:33,771 --> 00:10:35,945 - Are you still in contact with any of the other people? 281 00:10:36,014 --> 00:10:40,225 - No, Sam went MIA around the same time Piers did 282 00:10:40,294 --> 00:10:42,227 and John as well. 283 00:10:42,296 --> 00:10:44,747 - But it's not that strange considering 284 00:10:44,816 --> 00:10:47,198 that these were teenage fandom accounts. 285 00:10:47,267 --> 00:10:48,475 They maybe just sort of moved on. 286 00:10:48,544 --> 00:10:50,891 But now he's back, following you on Instagram 287 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,893 and acting like nothing ever happened. 288 00:10:52,962 --> 00:10:54,377 - Yeah, it's weird. 289 00:10:54,446 --> 00:10:56,621 - Well, that's something of a lead. 290 00:10:56,690 --> 00:10:59,141 We don't have a ton of information about this guy, 291 00:10:59,210 --> 00:11:01,488 but whatever you do have, send it to us. 292 00:11:01,557 --> 00:11:04,836 Also on Sam, Chloe, and John and everybody 293 00:11:04,905 --> 00:11:07,011 in the group chat. See what we can find. 294 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,460 And we'll be in touch tomorrow. 295 00:11:08,529 --> 00:11:09,945 - It was really nice meeting you. 296 00:11:10,014 --> 00:11:11,187 - Good to meet you. 297 00:11:11,256 --> 00:11:12,879 Thanks for having us in your home. 298 00:11:12,948 --> 00:11:14,881 It was lovely. 299 00:11:14,950 --> 00:11:16,330 Bye. 300 00:11:16,399 --> 00:11:19,920 [laughs] We'll see you tomorrow. 301 00:11:19,989 --> 00:11:22,095 [dramatic music] 302 00:11:22,164 --> 00:11:24,304 I just feel sad for Reign. 303 00:11:24,373 --> 00:11:26,927 I feel like Reign is still stuck in the same place 304 00:11:26,996 --> 00:11:30,620 that she's been since she was 13, 14, 15. 305 00:11:30,690 --> 00:11:32,519 - I mean, the bond and loyalty 306 00:11:32,588 --> 00:11:34,763 that she feels to him makes sense. 307 00:11:34,832 --> 00:11:38,007 But I feel like we've got one shot to find this guy 308 00:11:38,076 --> 00:11:39,526 before he disappears again. 309 00:11:51,158 --> 00:11:53,367 - All right. We need to do a recap. 310 00:11:53,436 --> 00:11:55,576 - Somebody's capping. 311 00:11:55,645 --> 00:11:58,303 So we got to recap. [laughter] 312 00:11:58,372 --> 00:12:01,306 - Reign met Piers seven years ago. 313 00:12:01,375 --> 00:12:03,930 As a teen in distress, a connection is made. 314 00:12:03,999 --> 00:12:06,656 Reign essentially falls in love with Piers. 315 00:12:06,726 --> 00:12:09,245 They all hang out in an anime fandom group chat, 316 00:12:09,314 --> 00:12:10,695 and they all become friends with each other. 317 00:12:10,764 --> 00:12:12,766 - John, Sam, Chloe, Reign, and Piers. 318 00:12:12,835 --> 00:12:14,664 - Right, five of them. - Five of them. 319 00:12:14,734 --> 00:12:17,529 - At first, the biggest problem is that Piers lives in London, 320 00:12:17,598 --> 00:12:20,463 but then out of nowhere one day, Piers vanishes. 321 00:12:20,532 --> 00:12:22,017 - After ghosting periodically... 322 00:12:22,086 --> 00:12:23,294 - Right. - Throughout. 323 00:12:23,363 --> 00:12:24,709 - Four years go by. 324 00:12:24,778 --> 00:12:26,815 Then one day, a few weeks ago, 325 00:12:26,884 --> 00:12:29,024 Reign sees that Piers's old Instagram account 326 00:12:29,093 --> 00:12:30,266 is following her. - Mm-hmm. 327 00:12:30,335 --> 00:12:32,613 - He's back. She DMs, "Oh, my God! 328 00:12:32,682 --> 00:12:34,615 Hey, how are you?" He says, "Hi. What's up?" 329 00:12:34,684 --> 00:12:35,824 - What is up? 330 00:12:35,893 --> 00:12:37,377 - Then they're back to talking again 331 00:12:37,446 --> 00:12:39,206 like nothing ever happened. 332 00:12:39,275 --> 00:12:41,208 Reign needs to know, Who is this person 333 00:12:41,277 --> 00:12:42,727 that meant so much to me then 334 00:12:42,796 --> 00:12:44,280 and that I've continued to hold such a special place 335 00:12:44,349 --> 00:12:45,661 in my heart for? 336 00:12:45,730 --> 00:12:47,525 She's like waiting for true love's kiss, 337 00:12:47,594 --> 00:12:50,355 and I don't think it's coming from Piers. 338 00:12:50,424 --> 00:12:51,771 - Could be John. Could be Chloe. 339 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,256 Could be Sam. Could be none of them. 340 00:12:54,325 --> 00:12:56,637 I don't know. I don't know. 341 00:12:56,706 --> 00:12:58,501 - Well, let's see. Did she send us any info? 342 00:12:58,570 --> 00:13:00,952 Yes. Wow, she sent a long email. 343 00:13:01,021 --> 00:13:03,817 "Dear Nev and Kamie, Piers is 22 years old 344 00:13:03,886 --> 00:13:04,991 "and lives in London. 345 00:13:05,060 --> 00:13:07,959 "I met Piers on my friend Sam's Instagram. 346 00:13:08,028 --> 00:13:11,238 "Sam created the group chat along with her friend John, 347 00:13:11,307 --> 00:13:14,655 who she also online-dated." - OK. 348 00:13:14,724 --> 00:13:17,486 - "Unfortunately, don't have any contact information 349 00:13:17,555 --> 00:13:19,488 for Sam, and her Instagram is gone." 350 00:13:19,557 --> 00:13:21,041 - Sounds suspicious. 351 00:13:21,110 --> 00:13:23,078 - "But Chloe's still around, and we still chat 352 00:13:23,147 --> 00:13:24,389 "and check in on each other. 353 00:13:24,458 --> 00:13:26,115 "Here's her Instagram and phone number. 354 00:13:26,184 --> 00:13:28,946 "The old Instagrams for John and Piers are private, 355 00:13:29,015 --> 00:13:31,811 "so I'm sending you my Instagram login in case 356 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,917 you want to look at them." Wow, a lot going on. 357 00:13:34,986 --> 00:13:36,367 - I want to see all the Instagram. 358 00:13:36,436 --> 00:13:37,575 We have to log in to her Instagram 359 00:13:37,644 --> 00:13:39,094 in order to see theirs. 360 00:13:39,163 --> 00:13:40,233 - All right, here we go. 361 00:13:40,302 --> 00:13:41,579 - This is Piers' page. 362 00:13:41,648 --> 00:13:43,995 - Basically, just a few anime memes. 363 00:13:44,064 --> 00:13:47,585 Weird profile that hasn't been used a long time. 364 00:13:47,654 --> 00:13:50,381 And not a good sign that the only pic he has on there 365 00:13:50,450 --> 00:13:52,279 is from when he was like 15. 366 00:13:52,348 --> 00:13:54,281 - Any he tagged pictures? 367 00:13:54,350 --> 00:13:55,696 No. - No. 368 00:13:55,765 --> 00:13:58,838 Let's go to John's page. OK. 369 00:13:58,907 --> 00:14:00,943 This is from a long time ago. Four years ago. 370 00:14:01,012 --> 00:14:02,462 Oh, yeah, 'cause I guess they all disappeared 371 00:14:02,531 --> 00:14:03,843 around the same time. - Mm. 372 00:14:03,912 --> 00:14:05,258 - All right. 373 00:14:05,327 --> 00:14:08,261 - Let's look at Chloe's page. - Oh, Chloe's page. Right. 374 00:14:08,330 --> 00:14:10,332 - It's gorgeous. - OK. 375 00:14:10,401 --> 00:14:12,679 - Florida girl. - This one looks current. 376 00:14:12,748 --> 00:14:13,991 Traveling. 377 00:14:14,060 --> 00:14:15,682 I think it's safe to say this is a real person, right? 378 00:14:15,751 --> 00:14:16,752 - Yeah. 379 00:14:16,821 --> 00:14:18,271 - We should probably try to talk to her. 380 00:14:18,340 --> 00:14:20,238 I'm going to text Chloe. 381 00:14:20,307 --> 00:14:21,791 This is Nev from the show "Catfish." 382 00:14:21,861 --> 00:14:23,448 I'd love to chat with you about your friend Reign 383 00:14:23,517 --> 00:14:24,794 and your mutual friend Piers. 384 00:14:24,864 --> 00:14:26,624 Hit me back when you can. Thanks. 385 00:14:26,693 --> 00:14:28,798 [phone chirps] All right. 386 00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:30,283 - Well, now what? 387 00:14:30,352 --> 00:14:32,078 Do we have those pictures of Piers? 388 00:14:32,147 --> 00:14:36,703 - Let's search these. No. No faces found. 389 00:14:36,772 --> 00:14:38,843 All right. What about this one? 390 00:14:38,912 --> 00:14:41,432 There's nothing. Oh, I'm getting a call. 391 00:14:41,501 --> 00:14:43,503 - Call right there. 392 00:14:43,572 --> 00:14:46,195 - Oh, hey. - Hey. 393 00:14:46,264 --> 00:14:47,921 - What is up? 394 00:14:47,990 --> 00:14:50,579 OK, so your friend Reign told us that guy 395 00:14:50,648 --> 00:14:52,684 Piers just popped back up, 396 00:14:52,753 --> 00:14:54,065 and we were curious what you know about him 397 00:14:54,134 --> 00:14:55,273 and if there's anything you could tell us 398 00:14:55,342 --> 00:14:56,412 about the situation. 399 00:15:06,077 --> 00:15:07,976 - What about Sam? Do you remember Samantha? 400 00:15:10,771 --> 00:15:12,877 - With Sam, did you ever FaceTime with her 401 00:15:12,946 --> 00:15:14,948 or talk to her on the phone or anything like that? 402 00:15:17,606 --> 00:15:20,643 - And then John, what do you know about him? 403 00:15:24,785 --> 00:15:25,821 - OK. 404 00:15:25,890 --> 00:15:27,547 - So you know John in real life? 405 00:15:27,616 --> 00:15:30,412 - Yeah. - And you FaceTimed Sam? 406 00:15:30,481 --> 00:15:31,896 - But did you ever FaceTime Piers? 407 00:15:39,697 --> 00:15:40,836 - What? - Da, da, da, da, da. 408 00:15:45,945 --> 00:15:48,050 - Do you have any contact information for John? 409 00:15:56,093 --> 00:15:56,990 - OK. 410 00:16:00,131 --> 00:16:01,098 - Exactly. - Yes. 411 00:16:01,167 --> 00:16:02,720 - So, yeah, shoot that over to us 412 00:16:02,789 --> 00:16:05,895 because we're doing our investigation right now. 413 00:16:05,965 --> 00:16:06,966 - Thank you. 414 00:16:08,208 --> 00:16:09,865 - Bye. 415 00:16:09,934 --> 00:16:13,282 I thought it was Sam, but John is suspect 416 00:16:13,351 --> 00:16:15,698 numero uno, period. 417 00:16:15,767 --> 00:16:17,424 All of a sudden, "Oh, I don't-- 418 00:16:17,493 --> 00:16:18,943 Piers isn't even from London." - Well. 419 00:16:19,012 --> 00:16:20,462 - Unless he was just trying to like shit 420 00:16:20,531 --> 00:16:22,222 on him because he didn't want the girls 421 00:16:22,291 --> 00:16:24,673 to, like, be obsessed with him. 422 00:16:24,742 --> 00:16:26,433 - Definitely a possibility. 423 00:16:26,502 --> 00:16:28,090 OK, so what else do we have? 424 00:16:28,159 --> 00:16:31,335 Oh, yeah, I guess we can go back into Reign's Instagram. 425 00:16:31,404 --> 00:16:32,750 - Oh, the messages. 426 00:16:32,819 --> 00:16:34,821 If you go to John and you go to messages. 427 00:16:34,890 --> 00:16:37,030 - This is John? - Yeah. 428 00:16:37,099 --> 00:16:40,516 See if they have any. - Oh, good call. They do. 429 00:16:40,585 --> 00:16:43,002 - John was talking to her more than Piers. 430 00:16:43,071 --> 00:16:44,865 John said, "I love you. Good night." 431 00:16:44,934 --> 00:16:47,213 John said, "I know you want to isolate yourself right now, 432 00:16:47,282 --> 00:16:49,525 but I just want you to know that I love you very much 433 00:16:49,594 --> 00:16:50,940 "and you mean a lot to me. 434 00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:52,735 "You are a beautiful and smart person, 435 00:16:52,804 --> 00:16:54,668 "and you're gonna go places no matter who 436 00:16:54,737 --> 00:16:56,084 or what is bringing you down." 437 00:16:56,153 --> 00:16:59,121 That looks like either a really, really good friend 438 00:16:59,190 --> 00:17:02,469 or, like, someone who has feelings for you. 439 00:17:02,538 --> 00:17:03,919 And maybe she just missed it 440 00:17:03,988 --> 00:17:06,266 because she was so caught up in Piers. 441 00:17:06,335 --> 00:17:08,820 - Could John and Piers be the same person? 442 00:17:08,889 --> 00:17:09,994 - Yes. 443 00:17:10,063 --> 00:17:13,032 - According to Chloe, John alluded to the fact 444 00:17:13,101 --> 00:17:16,725 that Piers may not be British and does not live in London 445 00:17:16,794 --> 00:17:19,935 but, in fact, lives where John lives in Florida. 446 00:17:20,004 --> 00:17:21,661 - Jacksonville, conveniently. 447 00:17:21,730 --> 00:17:24,146 - I wonder if Reign already knows about this 448 00:17:24,215 --> 00:17:26,838 or if this is going to be as surprising to her 449 00:17:26,907 --> 00:17:28,254 as it is to us. - Mm-hmm. 450 00:17:28,323 --> 00:17:30,773 - Because there's definitely something going on here, 451 00:17:30,842 --> 00:17:32,672 and we're not getting all the info. 452 00:17:36,469 --> 00:17:38,712 - Hey, we found some stuff. 453 00:17:38,781 --> 00:17:40,093 Why don't we come and pick you up? 454 00:17:40,162 --> 00:17:42,164 And then we'll figure out a place to sit down 455 00:17:42,233 --> 00:17:43,269 and go over everything. 456 00:17:43,338 --> 00:17:44,718 [upbeat music] 457 00:17:44,787 --> 00:17:47,307 All right. - Thank you. 458 00:17:47,376 --> 00:17:48,584 - This is nice. 459 00:17:48,653 --> 00:17:50,552 Let's sit down. 460 00:17:52,071 --> 00:17:53,175 All right. 461 00:17:53,244 --> 00:17:54,901 So why don't you slide in? 462 00:17:54,970 --> 00:17:57,283 We'll show you what we did and what we've got. 463 00:17:57,352 --> 00:17:59,250 So we looked at his Instagram. 464 00:17:59,319 --> 00:18:01,045 So there's not a lot on there. 465 00:18:01,114 --> 00:18:03,254 Tried searching the photos, but we didn't find any hits. 466 00:18:03,323 --> 00:18:05,118 So we couldn't really do anything with that. 467 00:18:05,187 --> 00:18:07,810 Now, what was interesting about John's Instagram 468 00:18:07,879 --> 00:18:09,950 was not so much the things that he's posted, 469 00:18:10,019 --> 00:18:11,952 but when we clicked on messages, 470 00:18:12,021 --> 00:18:14,852 we saw that you guys messaged a lot. 471 00:18:14,921 --> 00:18:16,267 - Mm-hmm. 472 00:18:16,336 --> 00:18:17,855 - Now, you told us obviously he was your friend. 473 00:18:17,924 --> 00:18:20,064 The messages have a little bit more than, 474 00:18:20,133 --> 00:18:23,067 like, just friends vibe. Is that fair to say? 475 00:18:23,136 --> 00:18:25,034 - Yeah, that is fair to say. - OK. 476 00:18:25,104 --> 00:18:27,071 - But we just texted like that in the group chat. 477 00:18:27,140 --> 00:18:29,901 Even Samantha would text me in that flirty type way. 478 00:18:29,970 --> 00:18:31,420 - OK. 479 00:18:31,489 --> 00:18:33,940 So did you ever have feelings for Jonathan, John? 480 00:18:34,009 --> 00:18:34,941 No. 481 00:18:35,010 --> 00:18:36,080 And did you ever get a sense 482 00:18:36,149 --> 00:18:38,013 that he maybe had feelings for you? 483 00:18:38,082 --> 00:18:40,222 - OK, a little bit, but I didn't want to think 484 00:18:40,291 --> 00:18:42,397 that way 'cause Sam and John dated. 485 00:18:42,466 --> 00:18:44,295 So I was, like, in denial. 486 00:18:44,364 --> 00:18:45,917 - Interesting. - OK. 487 00:18:45,986 --> 00:18:48,748 - Because we also saw Chloe's page. 488 00:18:48,817 --> 00:18:50,888 And we knew you had FaceTimed with her 489 00:18:50,957 --> 00:18:52,269 and so that you knew she was real. 490 00:18:52,338 --> 00:18:55,513 So we reached out, and then we actually talked to her 491 00:18:55,582 --> 00:18:56,997 and FaceTimed. - Really? 492 00:18:57,066 --> 00:18:58,827 - Yeah. She's in Florida. 493 00:18:58,896 --> 00:19:00,622 She's not in touch with anybody, 494 00:19:00,691 --> 00:19:01,968 really, anymore either. 495 00:19:02,037 --> 00:19:03,487 And the only thing that stood out 496 00:19:03,556 --> 00:19:06,179 was that she vaguely remembers in one conversation 497 00:19:06,248 --> 00:19:09,389 that they had way back when that John said 498 00:19:09,458 --> 00:19:11,184 that he had talked to Piers 499 00:19:11,253 --> 00:19:13,876 and that John mentioned something like, 500 00:19:13,945 --> 00:19:17,604 "Piers isn't even really from London." 501 00:19:17,673 --> 00:19:18,881 - He's not even from London. 502 00:19:18,950 --> 00:19:21,090 He lives in Jacksonville. 503 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,816 - That's what she said? - Yeah. 504 00:19:22,885 --> 00:19:24,680 - Do you know anyone in Jacksonville? 505 00:19:24,749 --> 00:19:26,924 - I just know Chloe is in Jacksonville 506 00:19:26,993 --> 00:19:29,306 and John's in Jacksonville. 507 00:19:29,375 --> 00:19:32,930 - Well, we didn't really know, obviously, what it means, 508 00:19:32,999 --> 00:19:35,933 but since it's our job to be suspicious of people 509 00:19:36,002 --> 00:19:40,006 and Piers has not proven to you in any meaningful way 510 00:19:40,075 --> 00:19:41,214 that he actually is from London 511 00:19:41,283 --> 00:19:44,044 or that he's the guy in the pictures, 512 00:19:44,113 --> 00:19:47,324 that certainly raised our suspicion about John. 513 00:19:47,393 --> 00:19:49,153 So we want to speak to him. 514 00:19:49,222 --> 00:19:51,604 And we were hopeful that Chloe was gonna get back to us 515 00:19:51,673 --> 00:19:52,984 with some information, 516 00:19:53,053 --> 00:19:54,745 see if we could actually talk to John, 517 00:19:54,814 --> 00:19:56,471 which would be great. - She hasn't texted us. 518 00:19:56,540 --> 00:19:57,920 - I don't think so. 519 00:19:57,989 --> 00:19:58,921 - Should we text her, see if she got any 520 00:19:58,990 --> 00:20:01,959 new info to share? - Sure. 521 00:20:02,028 --> 00:20:04,893 Were you able to track down 522 00:20:04,962 --> 00:20:09,967 any contact info for John? 523 00:20:10,036 --> 00:20:12,141 OK, sent. 524 00:20:12,211 --> 00:20:15,179 - I don't know. It's too much. 525 00:20:15,248 --> 00:20:16,663 - Oh. - That was so fast. 526 00:20:16,732 --> 00:20:17,837 - Yeah. She said, "Hi! 527 00:20:17,906 --> 00:20:19,390 "I'm so sorry. No, I couldn't. 528 00:20:19,459 --> 00:20:21,979 "I don't have any old contacts 'cause this is, like, 529 00:20:22,048 --> 00:20:23,808 "my third new phone since then, 530 00:20:23,877 --> 00:20:25,810 "and we don't follow each other on anything. 531 00:20:25,879 --> 00:20:27,329 "I'm still looking for stuff, but I'll get back 532 00:20:27,398 --> 00:20:30,021 to you tomorrow if I find anything else." 533 00:20:30,090 --> 00:20:32,058 So hopefully, we can get a hold of John 534 00:20:32,127 --> 00:20:34,474 because I think there's a chance that John 535 00:20:34,543 --> 00:20:35,820 is also Piers. 536 00:20:35,889 --> 00:20:37,960 You had a close connection with both of them. 537 00:20:38,029 --> 00:20:40,860 Maybe at the time John was in a relationship with Sam, 538 00:20:40,929 --> 00:20:42,171 but he also liked you, 539 00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:44,173 and he couldn't like you as him. 540 00:20:44,243 --> 00:20:46,245 - I hope not. 541 00:20:46,314 --> 00:20:47,660 - So here's the thing. 542 00:20:47,729 --> 00:20:52,285 If Piers is telling the truth, then we wouldn't be here. 543 00:20:52,354 --> 00:20:56,634 So someone's not telling the truth. 544 00:20:56,703 --> 00:20:58,084 - ♪ Losing my mind ♪ 545 00:20:58,153 --> 00:21:01,777 ♪ But I found it, oh, make me ♪ 546 00:21:01,846 --> 00:21:03,572 - Piers, John, and Sam 547 00:21:03,641 --> 00:21:05,367 all disappeared at the same time. 548 00:21:05,436 --> 00:21:07,093 I don't think that's a coincidence. 549 00:21:07,162 --> 00:21:09,992 The only real people that are still existing from that chat 550 00:21:10,061 --> 00:21:13,755 are you and Chloe. Something is up. 551 00:21:13,824 --> 00:21:15,343 - That's crazy, though. 552 00:21:15,412 --> 00:21:18,967 If there's a chance that he is John, he-- 553 00:21:19,036 --> 00:21:22,591 I'm just trying to process. 554 00:21:22,660 --> 00:21:25,732 - ♪ I'm hooked onto your life support ♪ 555 00:21:25,801 --> 00:21:28,045 ♪ So don't let me go ♪ 556 00:21:28,114 --> 00:21:29,736 - It's just really weird. 557 00:21:29,805 --> 00:21:31,462 I don't know what to think. 558 00:21:31,531 --> 00:21:34,638 - ♪ I'm hooked on to your life support ♪ 559 00:21:34,707 --> 00:21:36,812 ♪ So don't let me go ♪ 560 00:21:41,127 --> 00:21:43,923 - Whether or not we get any information for John, 561 00:21:43,992 --> 00:21:45,511 we still have to decide whether or not 562 00:21:45,580 --> 00:21:48,997 you think now is the right time to reach out to Piers, 563 00:21:49,066 --> 00:21:51,724 explain the situation, and give him an opportunity 564 00:21:51,793 --> 00:21:53,622 to finally meet you. 565 00:21:53,691 --> 00:21:55,900 - I need answers. - Mm-hmm. 566 00:21:55,969 --> 00:21:58,593 - Well, if you want answers, I think you need 567 00:21:58,662 --> 00:22:00,249 to demand them from Piers. 568 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:02,907 - That would make me very happy to see you 569 00:22:02,976 --> 00:22:05,496 tell him what he needs to do. 570 00:22:05,565 --> 00:22:07,429 You know, like, we're not teenagers anymore. 571 00:22:07,498 --> 00:22:10,294 I need to know who you are, where you live, 572 00:22:10,363 --> 00:22:12,400 how serious you are about coming back into my life. 573 00:22:16,507 --> 00:22:17,681 [tense music] 574 00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:19,199 - You go, girl. 575 00:22:19,268 --> 00:22:21,616 ♪ ♪ 576 00:22:21,685 --> 00:22:24,170 - Hey, I really want to continue our friendship, 577 00:22:24,239 --> 00:22:26,241 but I don't think this will work out 578 00:22:26,310 --> 00:22:29,106 if our communication keeps getting cut short like this. 579 00:22:29,175 --> 00:22:31,488 It makes me feel like you don't truly value me, 580 00:22:31,557 --> 00:22:32,903 and I think I deserve more. 581 00:22:32,972 --> 00:22:34,353 I've loved you all this time, 582 00:22:34,422 --> 00:22:36,147 and I don't think it's fair to be treated like this 583 00:22:36,216 --> 00:22:37,804 without an explanation. 584 00:22:37,873 --> 00:22:39,875 I would love to meet you after all this time 585 00:22:39,944 --> 00:22:41,152 because I don't think I can handle 586 00:22:41,221 --> 00:22:42,913 losing touch with you again. 587 00:22:42,982 --> 00:22:44,811 So if you aren't willing to see me now, 588 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,158 I think we should call it quits. 589 00:22:47,227 --> 00:22:49,333 - Wow. - Very good. 590 00:22:49,402 --> 00:22:50,783 - Period! 591 00:22:50,852 --> 00:22:52,612 - All right, let's give him a minute and see what he says. 592 00:22:52,681 --> 00:22:53,958 How's that feel to send that? 593 00:22:54,027 --> 00:22:55,926 - Very empowering. You know? 594 00:22:55,995 --> 00:22:57,203 - You're standing up for yourself. 595 00:22:57,272 --> 00:22:58,411 - Yeah. 596 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,068 - How quickly does he typically respond? 597 00:23:00,137 --> 00:23:02,242 - Honestly, sometimes it takes a full day. 598 00:23:02,311 --> 00:23:03,554 - Oh, God. 599 00:23:03,623 --> 00:23:04,900 - I always thought it was like the time difference 600 00:23:04,969 --> 00:23:06,695 or something. - Well, if he's in the UK. 601 00:23:06,764 --> 00:23:08,352 - He ain't in the UK. 602 00:23:08,421 --> 00:23:10,043 - So I guess there's not much we can do 603 00:23:10,112 --> 00:23:12,287 right now regarding Piers. 604 00:23:12,356 --> 00:23:14,531 If he gets the message and wants to respond 605 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,981 and do the right thing, then he will. 606 00:23:17,050 --> 00:23:19,294 But even if we can't get the truth from Piers, 607 00:23:19,363 --> 00:23:22,159 I still think we have a better shot of getting it 608 00:23:22,228 --> 00:23:25,576 from anyone in Jacksonville. 609 00:23:25,645 --> 00:23:29,269 But I guess we'll just have to wait and see. 610 00:23:29,338 --> 00:23:31,651 - Well, I'm excited to find out what comes. 611 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,273 I'm ready. 612 00:23:33,342 --> 00:23:34,378 - For now, we'll give you a ride home 613 00:23:34,447 --> 00:23:36,587 and see what happens. - Mm-hmm. 614 00:23:36,656 --> 00:23:39,556 ♪ ♪ 615 00:23:39,625 --> 00:23:42,179 - If you hear anything, let us know. 616 00:23:42,248 --> 00:23:45,044 We'll give Piers till the morning to get back to you. 617 00:23:45,113 --> 00:23:47,598 And we'll just be ready to travel. 618 00:23:47,667 --> 00:23:49,773 Plan on being ready first thing in the morning 619 00:23:49,842 --> 00:23:52,707 to head out to either Florida or somewhere else. 620 00:23:52,776 --> 00:23:53,880 - My goodness. OK. 621 00:23:53,949 --> 00:23:55,261 - All right. - Yeah. 622 00:23:55,330 --> 00:23:56,918 - Bye. 623 00:23:56,987 --> 00:24:00,093 ♪ ♪ 624 00:24:02,233 --> 00:24:04,166 - Hello. 625 00:24:04,235 --> 00:24:06,479 - Good morning. - How you feeling? 626 00:24:06,548 --> 00:24:09,344 - I'm feeling really nervous. - Yeah? 627 00:24:09,413 --> 00:24:12,174 Any word from... - Anybody? 628 00:24:12,243 --> 00:24:15,281 - No? Nothing? Yeah, same here. 629 00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:18,284 I was hoping that at least Chloe would come through. 630 00:24:18,353 --> 00:24:21,529 - I mean, all signs point to Jacksonville right now. 631 00:24:21,598 --> 00:24:25,429 Chloe's in Jacksonville. John is in Jacksonville. 632 00:24:25,498 --> 00:24:28,984 And Piers, according to John, is also in Jacksonville. 633 00:24:29,053 --> 00:24:31,262 - Then I guess Jacksonville it is. 634 00:24:31,331 --> 00:24:33,299 I mean, look, between Chloe and John, 635 00:24:33,368 --> 00:24:35,094 there's got to be some information 636 00:24:35,163 --> 00:24:36,785 that they can give us. 637 00:24:36,854 --> 00:24:39,478 And if that leads to London, then we'll fly to London. 638 00:24:39,547 --> 00:24:42,135 - I'm really excited to be able to meet Chloe 639 00:24:42,204 --> 00:24:43,689 for the first time. 640 00:24:43,758 --> 00:24:45,553 - So it won't be a total loss. 641 00:24:45,622 --> 00:24:47,451 Let me text Chloe again. 642 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,866 Hey, Chloe, since you and John are both in Jacksonville, 643 00:24:48,935 --> 00:24:51,144 we're following our instincts and coming there with Reign. 644 00:24:51,213 --> 00:24:52,594 If you can get in touch with John, 645 00:24:52,663 --> 00:24:53,837 that would be great. 646 00:24:53,906 --> 00:24:55,563 We'll let you know when we land in a few hours 647 00:24:55,632 --> 00:24:57,772 and, hopefully, be able to all meet up. 648 00:24:57,841 --> 00:24:58,911 - Let's go. 649 00:24:58,980 --> 00:25:01,879 [upbeat music] 650 00:25:01,948 --> 00:25:06,815 ♪ ♪ 651 00:25:06,884 --> 00:25:09,611 - Ready for an adventure? - Yes. 652 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,684 ♪ ♪ 653 00:25:13,753 --> 00:25:15,030 - I'm flying. 654 00:25:15,099 --> 00:25:16,135 Thank you all. 655 00:25:16,204 --> 00:25:22,348 ♪ ♪ 656 00:25:22,417 --> 00:25:25,006 - Whoo! - On the road. 657 00:25:25,075 --> 00:25:26,939 ♪ ♪ 658 00:25:27,008 --> 00:25:28,285 [plane whooshing] 659 00:25:28,354 --> 00:25:30,149 - All right, we made it. 660 00:25:30,218 --> 00:25:31,944 ♪ ♪ 661 00:25:32,013 --> 00:25:35,430 We're gonna find you, Piers. 662 00:25:35,499 --> 00:25:38,019 [phone chimes] Oh! It's Chloe. 663 00:25:59,558 --> 00:26:02,181 - So we are going to a park to meet who? 664 00:26:02,250 --> 00:26:03,769 - She never responded. - She never responded. 665 00:26:03,838 --> 00:26:06,150 - That is kind of annoying. - It's just weird. 666 00:26:06,219 --> 00:26:08,290 - I mean, could be just her. 667 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,810 Could be her, John if she managed 668 00:26:10,879 --> 00:26:12,363 to get in touch with him. 669 00:26:12,432 --> 00:26:14,849 For all we know, we might be on our way to actually 670 00:26:14,918 --> 00:26:18,404 meet Piers, whoever that is. 671 00:26:18,473 --> 00:26:20,717 - I mean, what if it has been John this whole time? 672 00:26:20,786 --> 00:26:22,063 What does that mean for you? 673 00:26:22,132 --> 00:26:24,168 - That would easily just break my heart 674 00:26:24,237 --> 00:26:27,309 because I consider John a really good friend, 675 00:26:27,378 --> 00:26:30,140 and no one wants to be lied to. 676 00:26:30,209 --> 00:26:31,866 [tense music] 677 00:26:31,935 --> 00:26:33,039 - This is the park. 678 00:26:33,108 --> 00:26:35,179 [turn signal clicking] 679 00:26:35,248 --> 00:26:39,839 Yes. We're looking for Chloe. 680 00:26:39,908 --> 00:26:41,772 - Pretty empty. 681 00:26:48,607 --> 00:26:49,746 - All right. 682 00:26:49,815 --> 00:26:52,852 Should we go see what's up? 683 00:26:52,921 --> 00:26:54,233 - Yeah. 684 00:26:54,302 --> 00:26:56,822 - All right. 685 00:26:56,891 --> 00:27:01,481 ♪ ♪ 686 00:27:01,550 --> 00:27:03,932 - Can you see that person? 687 00:27:04,001 --> 00:27:05,934 - Who is that? 688 00:27:06,003 --> 00:27:08,627 - Hi. - Here we go. 689 00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:13,770 [tense music] 690 00:27:13,839 --> 00:27:15,875 - Can you see that person? 691 00:27:15,944 --> 00:27:17,912 - Who is that? 692 00:27:17,981 --> 00:27:20,190 - Here we go. 693 00:27:20,259 --> 00:27:23,227 - Oh, is that her? 694 00:27:23,296 --> 00:27:25,989 She looks like she's alone. - Interesting. 695 00:27:26,058 --> 00:27:29,233 ♪ ♪ 696 00:27:29,302 --> 00:27:31,132 - Hi. Chloe? 697 00:27:31,201 --> 00:27:33,134 - Hey. 698 00:27:33,203 --> 00:27:35,343 - Hi, lady. - Oh, my God. 699 00:27:35,412 --> 00:27:38,277 - You're so cute. - Goodness, girl. 700 00:27:38,346 --> 00:27:39,899 - It's so good to finally see you. 701 00:27:39,968 --> 00:27:41,314 - Nice to meet you. 702 00:27:41,383 --> 00:27:42,591 - Nice to meet you, guys. - Thanks for... 703 00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:44,007 - Good to see you guys here. - Good to see you. 704 00:27:44,076 --> 00:27:45,491 - Showing up. 705 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,803 - I didn't think we were gonna hear from you because 706 00:27:46,872 --> 00:27:48,183 you didn't text us back. 707 00:27:48,252 --> 00:27:51,670 - I thought that I could get ahold of John. 708 00:27:51,739 --> 00:27:54,362 Like, have all of us be here since he's here anyway, 709 00:27:54,431 --> 00:27:56,675 but it didn't work out that way. 710 00:27:56,744 --> 00:27:58,677 - I mean, I know we had asked about 711 00:27:58,746 --> 00:28:00,575 trying to get in touch with him, 712 00:28:00,644 --> 00:28:01,921 but, like, was that the only reason you were trying 713 00:28:01,990 --> 00:28:03,336 to get him here, or was it because 714 00:28:03,405 --> 00:28:07,133 you know something about Piers that we don't know? 715 00:28:07,202 --> 00:28:09,170 - I do. - You do? 716 00:28:09,239 --> 00:28:11,241 - I do. 717 00:28:11,310 --> 00:28:14,623 So, Reign, there have been some things 718 00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:17,592 that, like, you don't know because we were just kids, 719 00:28:17,661 --> 00:28:19,767 and it was a long-ass fucking time ago. 720 00:28:19,836 --> 00:28:22,493 I had a bunch of phantom accounts, 721 00:28:22,562 --> 00:28:24,426 and when I met you first, 722 00:28:24,495 --> 00:28:27,257 it was through a different account. 723 00:28:27,326 --> 00:28:29,121 - Are we talking about the Piers' account? 724 00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:30,847 - That's what I'm alluding to, yeah. 725 00:28:30,916 --> 00:28:32,883 ♪ ♪ 726 00:28:32,952 --> 00:28:35,196 - So you are Piers. 727 00:28:35,265 --> 00:28:36,266 - Yes. 728 00:28:36,335 --> 00:28:38,406 [somber music] 729 00:28:38,475 --> 00:28:41,340 When all of this occurred, I was 12. 730 00:28:41,409 --> 00:28:44,757 And it was just an online group chat 731 00:28:44,826 --> 00:28:46,000 that I was in. 732 00:28:46,069 --> 00:28:47,346 Most of the stuff that happened 733 00:28:47,415 --> 00:28:49,520 on those was role-playing anyway. 734 00:28:49,589 --> 00:28:53,214 And once I, like, noticed that 735 00:28:53,283 --> 00:28:56,320 you kind of liked that account, 736 00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:58,840 that's when I stopped being as active on it, 737 00:28:58,909 --> 00:29:01,118 and I became more distant, and I stopped using it 738 00:29:01,187 --> 00:29:03,949 because I was like, "OK, well, that's kind of like an area 739 00:29:04,018 --> 00:29:05,916 I don't want to touch." 740 00:29:05,985 --> 00:29:10,541 ♪ ♪ 741 00:29:10,610 --> 00:29:13,268 - Why didn't you tell me? - I don't know. 742 00:29:13,337 --> 00:29:14,407 I was a kid, and I didn't think 743 00:29:14,476 --> 00:29:15,443 any of it would matter. 744 00:29:15,512 --> 00:29:16,651 I honestly did not think you and I 745 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,964 would still be talking to each other. 746 00:29:19,033 --> 00:29:21,621 - But now you're not a kid, and when she got-- 747 00:29:21,690 --> 00:29:22,899 - She's not a kid, either. Yeah. 748 00:29:22,968 --> 00:29:24,590 - Right, exactly. 749 00:29:24,659 --> 00:29:26,040 And when she saw the Piers profile suddenly follow her 750 00:29:26,109 --> 00:29:27,524 again after all these years, 751 00:29:27,593 --> 00:29:29,388 she's thinking, like, this person 752 00:29:29,457 --> 00:29:32,115 that I had this childhood love with 753 00:29:32,184 --> 00:29:34,427 is back in my life. 754 00:29:34,496 --> 00:29:36,878 Why did you pop back up as Piers? 755 00:29:36,947 --> 00:29:39,363 - So when I was digging through my Instagram accounts, 756 00:29:39,432 --> 00:29:41,124 like two months ago, I was like, 757 00:29:41,193 --> 00:29:42,642 OK, let me see where Piers was. 758 00:29:42,711 --> 00:29:44,334 I would check on it, like, once a year, whenever 759 00:29:44,403 --> 00:29:45,784 I'd remember it exists. 760 00:29:45,853 --> 00:29:47,647 And I'd be like, "Oh, shit," you know? 761 00:29:47,716 --> 00:29:50,478 But I didn't mean to follow you from that account. 762 00:29:50,547 --> 00:29:53,550 I honestly don't really know how it happened. 763 00:29:53,619 --> 00:29:55,517 But I'm sorry that I put you through 764 00:29:55,586 --> 00:29:57,934 any of that emotional distress. 765 00:29:58,003 --> 00:30:00,868 - So what made you talk to her account 766 00:30:00,937 --> 00:30:03,180 instead of just messaging her as you and being like, 767 00:30:03,249 --> 00:30:05,838 "Hey, just, ha-ha, letting you know 768 00:30:05,907 --> 00:30:08,323 "that account that you used to follow 769 00:30:08,392 --> 00:30:09,842 all those years ago, it was actually me?" 770 00:30:09,911 --> 00:30:11,671 - Because I never thought we would meet. 771 00:30:11,740 --> 00:30:14,813 I'd never thought that it was worth it enough to, 772 00:30:14,882 --> 00:30:17,539 like, break your heart about it. 773 00:30:17,608 --> 00:30:19,818 And it'd be easier to just be like, "Oh, you know, 774 00:30:19,887 --> 00:30:21,509 miss you, too." 775 00:30:21,578 --> 00:30:22,613 And then, like, just, hopefully, one day, 776 00:30:22,682 --> 00:30:25,202 you'd stop. - OK. 777 00:30:25,271 --> 00:30:27,135 But, like, when we spoke to you yesterday, 778 00:30:27,204 --> 00:30:29,413 you were lying to us. - Yeah. 779 00:30:29,482 --> 00:30:30,863 That was just honestly because 780 00:30:30,932 --> 00:30:34,487 I didn't know what I would do. I wasn't too sure. 781 00:30:34,556 --> 00:30:37,145 But I've always had a guilt on my shoulders about it, 782 00:30:37,214 --> 00:30:42,771 so I decided it's just more appropriate to come clean. 783 00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:45,740 - I'm happy you're being honest with me now. 784 00:30:45,809 --> 00:30:48,018 But it's like-- it's just insane. 785 00:30:48,087 --> 00:30:51,056 I just didn't expect that it was a lie. 786 00:30:51,125 --> 00:30:54,024 I didn't really expect that from you. 787 00:30:54,093 --> 00:30:58,511 - Did you ever have any romantic feelings for Reign? 788 00:30:58,580 --> 00:31:00,686 - I don't think so. 789 00:31:00,755 --> 00:31:02,619 We were all just kids, just role-playing. 790 00:31:02,688 --> 00:31:04,483 To me, it was about both of us having 791 00:31:04,552 --> 00:31:05,898 someone to talk to. 792 00:31:05,967 --> 00:31:08,694 - Do you remember the stuff that I would talk about? 793 00:31:08,763 --> 00:31:11,697 - Some of it. Yeah. 794 00:31:11,766 --> 00:31:15,114 - I just want to confirm. John is a real person? 795 00:31:15,183 --> 00:31:16,875 - John's a real person. I've hung out with John. 796 00:31:16,944 --> 00:31:19,463 - What about Sam? - Sam is a real person. 797 00:31:19,532 --> 00:31:21,224 I knew Sam before I knew you. 798 00:31:21,293 --> 00:31:23,295 - How did you even come up with the name "Piers"? 799 00:31:23,364 --> 00:31:26,677 - [laughs] I was a big gamer girl. 800 00:31:26,746 --> 00:31:28,887 And I played-- I loved "Resident Evil." 801 00:31:28,956 --> 00:31:30,716 There's a character named Piers Nivans. 802 00:31:30,785 --> 00:31:33,063 And I was playing it when I made that account. 803 00:31:33,132 --> 00:31:37,516 [laughs] - What's funny? 804 00:31:37,585 --> 00:31:39,518 - I get if you're nervous. - Yeah. 805 00:31:39,587 --> 00:31:41,106 - That's totally understandable, 806 00:31:41,175 --> 00:31:43,108 but, like, this isn't funny. 807 00:31:43,177 --> 00:31:45,006 We're not laughing. 808 00:31:45,075 --> 00:31:46,525 - I'm sorry. 809 00:31:48,182 --> 00:31:49,631 - All right, well, it's a lot. 810 00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:51,219 I think taking the rest of the day 811 00:31:51,288 --> 00:31:54,257 just to sort of let it all sink in is a good idea. 812 00:31:54,326 --> 00:31:56,328 - Mm-hmm. 813 00:31:56,397 --> 00:31:57,916 - Nice to meet you. 814 00:31:57,985 --> 00:31:59,296 We'll figure out a time for tomorrow. 815 00:31:59,365 --> 00:32:01,229 - All right. - Thank you. 816 00:32:01,298 --> 00:32:02,437 - Bye, Reign. 817 00:32:02,506 --> 00:32:04,232 - ♪ I wouldn't mind if ♪ 818 00:32:04,301 --> 00:32:05,958 - That's not what I was expecting. 819 00:32:06,027 --> 00:32:08,374 - ♪ As we know ♪ 820 00:32:08,443 --> 00:32:11,584 ♪ I dig my own grave ♪ 821 00:32:11,653 --> 00:32:15,761 ♪ So your garden could grow ♪ 822 00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:17,418 - Ugh. 823 00:32:17,487 --> 00:32:19,040 ♪ ♪ 824 00:32:19,109 --> 00:32:25,736 - ♪ How does it feel to be so ♪ 825 00:32:25,805 --> 00:32:28,808 - All that stuff was really real to me. 826 00:32:28,877 --> 00:32:32,053 It just sucks to think that I was just being, 827 00:32:32,122 --> 00:32:34,331 like, played with. 828 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,161 She's, like, laughing. 829 00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:39,681 I think she thinks it's, like, not that serious, 830 00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:43,375 but it was really serious to me. 831 00:32:43,444 --> 00:32:45,135 - If she wants to laugh about it, 832 00:32:45,204 --> 00:32:47,241 she can 'cause that's her experience, 833 00:32:47,310 --> 00:32:49,312 but we're not laughing. 834 00:32:49,381 --> 00:32:52,108 I think that it's important to remember how you feel 835 00:32:52,177 --> 00:32:54,489 right now when we talk to her tomorrow 836 00:32:54,558 --> 00:32:56,491 so that she can really understand 837 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,493 how it's affected you. 838 00:32:58,562 --> 00:33:01,496 - ♪ You were my dreams ♪ 839 00:33:01,565 --> 00:33:05,673 - Oh, it hurts. 840 00:33:05,742 --> 00:33:07,916 - ♪ Thought I grow tired ♪ 841 00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:10,885 ♪ You gave me sweet delusion ♪ 842 00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:18,341 [knocks] - Come in. 843 00:33:18,410 --> 00:33:19,687 [somber music] 844 00:33:19,756 --> 00:33:21,792 - Hey, queen. - Hi. 845 00:33:21,861 --> 00:33:26,314 - What's up? - Good morning, team. 846 00:33:26,383 --> 00:33:27,522 - How are you feeling? 847 00:33:27,591 --> 00:33:29,766 - Very emotional. 848 00:33:29,835 --> 00:33:31,768 And I'm still processing everything. 849 00:33:31,837 --> 00:33:33,804 I just feel betrayed. 850 00:33:33,873 --> 00:33:36,014 - Well, I think today, it would be good 851 00:33:36,083 --> 00:33:38,016 for you to communicate a little bit more 852 00:33:38,085 --> 00:33:42,158 to her, for your sake, how you're feeling. 853 00:33:42,227 --> 00:33:46,024 - I want to be able to stand up for myself in this situation. 854 00:33:46,093 --> 00:33:48,302 And I think that's what's best for me, 855 00:33:48,371 --> 00:33:49,820 to move on. - Yeah. 856 00:33:49,889 --> 00:33:52,064 - All right. I'm gonna text her. 857 00:33:52,133 --> 00:33:55,447 Hey Chloe, we'd love to come and chat some more. 858 00:33:55,516 --> 00:33:57,759 Where should we meet you? 859 00:33:57,828 --> 00:34:00,279 She said, "My parents are at home right now, but you can 860 00:34:00,348 --> 00:34:03,593 meet me at my friend's house." She sent an address. 861 00:34:03,662 --> 00:34:05,733 Shall we? - We shall. 862 00:34:05,802 --> 00:34:08,701 [tense music] 863 00:34:08,770 --> 00:34:10,496 ♪ ♪ 864 00:34:10,565 --> 00:34:13,051 - How are we feeling going into this? 865 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,261 - I don't really want to hear her excuses. 866 00:34:16,330 --> 00:34:18,987 I just want her to hear how much it really meant to me 867 00:34:19,057 --> 00:34:20,782 and that she actually hurt me. 868 00:34:22,370 --> 00:34:23,647 - All right. 869 00:34:23,716 --> 00:34:25,546 This is it. 870 00:34:25,615 --> 00:34:30,240 ♪ ♪ 871 00:34:30,309 --> 00:34:31,586 [knocking] - Hello. 872 00:34:31,655 --> 00:34:33,105 - Hi. - Hey. 873 00:34:33,174 --> 00:34:34,348 - Hi, welcome in. 874 00:34:34,417 --> 00:34:36,074 - Good to see you. 875 00:34:36,143 --> 00:34:37,109 OK. 876 00:34:37,178 --> 00:34:39,870 - How are you feeling after yesterday? 877 00:34:39,939 --> 00:34:42,183 - I mean, I've had more time to think about this 878 00:34:42,252 --> 00:34:43,805 than she has, obviously. 879 00:34:43,874 --> 00:34:46,084 So I'm happy with how things went. 880 00:34:46,153 --> 00:34:48,569 ♪ ♪ 881 00:34:48,638 --> 00:34:50,847 - OK, well, just so you know, 882 00:34:50,916 --> 00:34:52,987 for Reign, it's still very fresh. 883 00:34:53,056 --> 00:34:55,093 So I think that giving her a chance 884 00:34:55,162 --> 00:34:57,957 to be able to say how she really feels and, 885 00:34:58,026 --> 00:35:01,202 like, you really taking it in will mean a lot to her. 886 00:35:01,271 --> 00:35:02,962 - I want to make you feel 887 00:35:03,031 --> 00:35:05,068 like this is a safe place to do that. 888 00:35:05,137 --> 00:35:07,829 - Um... 889 00:35:07,898 --> 00:35:13,283 realizing that, you know, you were Piers, right now, 890 00:35:13,352 --> 00:35:17,805 it's like it's a really big thing for me 891 00:35:17,874 --> 00:35:19,945 to process because I did-- 892 00:35:20,014 --> 00:35:21,843 I still think about that time 893 00:35:21,912 --> 00:35:23,362 because it was really important, 894 00:35:23,431 --> 00:35:26,917 and I don't want-- 895 00:35:26,986 --> 00:35:29,092 I don't want to forget any of that 896 00:35:29,161 --> 00:35:31,715 or, like, try to suppress those emotions because 897 00:35:31,784 --> 00:35:34,201 it was really important for me, 898 00:35:34,270 --> 00:35:37,997 and, like, I just wish that you were, like, 899 00:35:38,066 --> 00:35:39,792 more honest. 900 00:35:39,861 --> 00:35:43,244 Um, you were like, and-- 901 00:35:43,313 --> 00:35:45,626 [somber music] 902 00:35:45,695 --> 00:35:47,248 - Continue. 903 00:35:47,317 --> 00:35:49,802 ♪ ♪ 904 00:35:49,871 --> 00:35:52,874 - I just really needed a friend at the time. 905 00:35:52,943 --> 00:35:55,981 And like, you disappearing, 906 00:35:56,050 --> 00:35:59,053 it would have been nice for an explanation. 907 00:35:59,122 --> 00:36:00,227 I don't know. 908 00:36:00,296 --> 00:36:02,919 I just wish you were more honest. 909 00:36:04,714 --> 00:36:07,026 - I want you to know that everything-- 910 00:36:07,095 --> 00:36:11,307 everything from me as Chloe, from Piers was 100% genuine. 911 00:36:11,376 --> 00:36:13,619 I knew what you were going through. 912 00:36:13,688 --> 00:36:17,485 We were both children in broken homes, 913 00:36:17,554 --> 00:36:20,108 and internet was our escape. 914 00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:23,353 I should have told you, but I didn't say anything 915 00:36:23,422 --> 00:36:24,389 because I would only do it, 916 00:36:24,458 --> 00:36:26,287 and it would only hurt both of us. 917 00:36:26,356 --> 00:36:29,911 Especially if you were not at a point in time 918 00:36:29,980 --> 00:36:32,500 where you were doing OK in life. 919 00:36:32,569 --> 00:36:34,537 And I didn't want to, like, add that to you because, 920 00:36:34,606 --> 00:36:38,713 again, like, I knew what you were going through. 921 00:36:38,782 --> 00:36:40,991 - OK, but would it be safe to say 922 00:36:41,060 --> 00:36:43,408 that one of the other reasons you didn't tell her 923 00:36:43,477 --> 00:36:47,550 was just because it's not fun 924 00:36:47,619 --> 00:36:50,587 to tell someone that you lied? 925 00:36:50,656 --> 00:36:53,176 - I wouldn't word it like that. - Well, I know you-- 926 00:36:53,245 --> 00:36:54,246 I know that. 927 00:36:54,315 --> 00:36:56,179 I've heard you not word it like that. 928 00:36:56,248 --> 00:36:59,976 You're saying all these things that are true and make sense, 929 00:37:00,045 --> 00:37:02,530 but it feels like there's also the other side 930 00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:03,773 of it, which is just like, 931 00:37:03,842 --> 00:37:05,119 Why should I tell you the truth? 932 00:37:05,188 --> 00:37:06,845 Like, it would have sucked for me. 933 00:37:06,914 --> 00:37:08,433 ♪ ♪ 934 00:37:08,502 --> 00:37:10,331 - If you're questioning whether or not, like, 935 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,990 I had integrity about it, I wasn't thinking about myself. 936 00:37:14,059 --> 00:37:15,888 If I would have admitted it to her, 937 00:37:15,957 --> 00:37:17,718 my life would have continued going. 938 00:37:17,787 --> 00:37:19,098 The days would have started and ended 939 00:37:19,167 --> 00:37:20,652 the exact same because nobody else in my life 940 00:37:20,721 --> 00:37:22,274 is part of this, you know? 941 00:37:22,343 --> 00:37:25,208 It would have affected me only in the aspect 942 00:37:25,277 --> 00:37:27,175 that I would have thought about how it affected her. 943 00:37:27,245 --> 00:37:30,420 Your best interest is in mind, not my best interest. 944 00:37:30,489 --> 00:37:31,387 I want to make that clear. 945 00:37:31,456 --> 00:37:33,596 ♪ ♪ 946 00:37:33,665 --> 00:37:35,667 Care about you a lot. 947 00:37:35,736 --> 00:37:37,185 And I'm sorry. 948 00:37:37,255 --> 00:37:40,050 I want to continue to grow as a person, 949 00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:42,363 and I want you to continue to grow as a person. 950 00:37:42,432 --> 00:37:45,608 And in the future, I would love to introduce you 951 00:37:45,677 --> 00:37:46,609 more to my life. 952 00:37:46,678 --> 00:37:49,784 ♪ ♪ 953 00:37:49,853 --> 00:37:54,651 - Well, I definitely need time. 954 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:57,136 It's something I need to heal from. 955 00:37:57,205 --> 00:37:58,448 - Sure. 956 00:37:58,517 --> 00:38:01,486 - But thank you for being honest with me. 957 00:38:01,555 --> 00:38:03,453 - I feel like honesty isn't even enough. 958 00:38:03,522 --> 00:38:05,283 - I mean, it's a start. 959 00:38:05,352 --> 00:38:06,663 - Yeah. 960 00:38:06,732 --> 00:38:08,355 - All right. 961 00:38:08,424 --> 00:38:10,840 Well, thanks for listening and sharing. 962 00:38:10,909 --> 00:38:13,463 This is an important chapter of your lives 963 00:38:13,532 --> 00:38:15,983 and can turn into a new chapter or not, 964 00:38:16,052 --> 00:38:19,366 but glad that we were able to do this. 965 00:38:19,435 --> 00:38:22,196 - I think for now, you understand, Chloe, 966 00:38:22,265 --> 00:38:24,681 that she's gonna need to be the one 967 00:38:24,750 --> 00:38:27,650 to reach out to you first. - Yeah. 968 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,376 - Give her some space. 969 00:38:29,445 --> 00:38:32,689 And she comes to you when she's ready. 970 00:38:32,758 --> 00:38:34,277 - Yeah, of course. 971 00:38:34,346 --> 00:38:37,556 - ♪ I know it's hard to fall ♪ 972 00:38:37,625 --> 00:38:40,766 - All right, well, I think we can say our goodbyes. 973 00:38:40,835 --> 00:38:42,250 Nice to meet you. Thank you. 974 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,286 - Nice to meet you. - It's good to meet you. 975 00:38:43,355 --> 00:38:45,875 - It is my pleasure. Bye, Chloe. 976 00:38:45,944 --> 00:38:48,602 - Bye. - Bye. 977 00:38:48,671 --> 00:38:51,674 - ♪ I see your light through the window ♪ 978 00:38:51,743 --> 00:38:54,159 ♪ Will you be there when I get home ♪ 979 00:38:54,228 --> 00:38:55,850 - You did great. - You did. 980 00:38:55,919 --> 00:38:57,162 I'm really proud of you. 981 00:38:57,231 --> 00:39:00,545 Keep speaking up. Keep calling people out. 982 00:39:00,614 --> 00:39:04,859 - Real friends are connected in a meaningful way. 983 00:39:04,928 --> 00:39:06,447 At the moment, she is not your friend. 984 00:39:06,516 --> 00:39:08,794 She could become your friend again if that's something 985 00:39:08,863 --> 00:39:10,520 you're even willing to do. 986 00:39:10,589 --> 00:39:12,419 - The choice is yours. 987 00:39:16,250 --> 00:39:18,217 [computer chimes] - Hey, good morning. 988 00:39:18,286 --> 00:39:20,150 - What's up, Reign. How are you? 989 00:39:20,219 --> 00:39:22,394 - I'm hanging in there. - OK, well, what's going on? 990 00:39:22,463 --> 00:39:24,948 - I'm just processing all my emotions and stuff 991 00:39:25,017 --> 00:39:26,812 and taking some time. 992 00:39:26,881 --> 00:39:31,058 - I mean, it was a lot of time and friendship that you shared. 993 00:39:31,127 --> 00:39:32,922 Have you been in touch with Chloe at all? 994 00:39:32,991 --> 00:39:34,441 - Not really. 995 00:39:34,510 --> 00:39:36,960 She's tried to reach out, but I haven't responded back. 996 00:39:43,622 --> 00:39:45,072 - Right. 997 00:39:45,141 --> 00:39:47,177 - But I feel like this situation has helped me 998 00:39:47,246 --> 00:39:49,697 grow a lot, for sure. - Well, that's great. 999 00:39:49,766 --> 00:39:51,837 And thanks again for letting us be 1000 00:39:51,906 --> 00:39:53,529 a little part of your journey. 1001 00:39:53,598 --> 00:39:55,082 - Thank you. - All right, Reign. 1002 00:39:55,151 --> 00:39:56,532 Be good. OK? 1003 00:39:56,601 --> 00:39:58,223 - Bye. - Bye. 1004 00:39:58,292 --> 00:40:00,846 [computer chimes] - Hey. 1005 00:40:00,915 --> 00:40:02,469 - Hi. - How is everything? 1006 00:40:02,538 --> 00:40:04,056 - Good. 1007 00:40:04,125 --> 00:40:06,024 - Where are you with Reign? 1008 00:40:06,093 --> 00:40:09,165 - So, like, after all of that, she texted me, 1009 00:40:09,234 --> 00:40:10,994 like, a nice message, basically saying 1010 00:40:11,063 --> 00:40:13,203 she's not upset with me. 1011 00:40:13,272 --> 00:40:15,447 I wanted to talk to her about it more over the phone, 1012 00:40:15,516 --> 00:40:17,276 but, like, when I tried to call her, 1013 00:40:17,345 --> 00:40:19,002 she said she was at work or something. 1014 00:40:19,071 --> 00:40:20,107 So she was gonna call me afterwards, 1015 00:40:20,176 --> 00:40:21,660 but she never did. 1016 00:40:21,729 --> 00:40:23,731 So then I sent her a text, and then she never responded. 1017 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,146 So then I stopped. - Right. 1018 00:40:25,215 --> 00:40:27,183 I just talked to her. 1019 00:40:27,252 --> 00:40:29,530 And there's still sort of raw feelings 1020 00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:31,083 that she hasn't quite figured out 1021 00:40:31,152 --> 00:40:33,361 how she wants to deal with yet. - Yeah. 1022 00:40:33,431 --> 00:40:35,260 - Has the experience changed or informed 1023 00:40:35,329 --> 00:40:38,332 your approach to other relationships in your life? 1024 00:40:38,401 --> 00:40:40,403 - First of all, catfishing somebody, 1025 00:40:40,472 --> 00:40:42,301 it was already like known in my brain 1026 00:40:42,370 --> 00:40:44,165 that I shouldn't have done that, you know? 1027 00:40:44,234 --> 00:40:47,168 But part of being ready to confess about it 1028 00:40:47,237 --> 00:40:48,791 comes with the intentions of not doing it again. 1029 00:40:48,860 --> 00:40:51,587 Definitely was easier to get the weight off my shoulders 1030 00:40:51,656 --> 00:40:53,105 with like an entire team. 1031 00:40:53,174 --> 00:40:54,762 - That's what we're here for. - Yeah. 1032 00:40:54,831 --> 00:40:57,282 All right, well, I'm glad that you did come clean 1033 00:40:57,351 --> 00:40:59,491 and, you know, hopefully grow from it. 1034 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,113 - Yeah. - All right, Chloe. 1035 00:41:01,182 --> 00:41:03,253 Good to see you. - All right.