1 00:00:07,398 --> 00:00:09,618 - ♪ MTV ♪ 2 00:00:09,705 --> 00:00:12,577 - There he is! Max, you're back. 3 00:00:12,664 --> 00:00:13,752 - I can't believe we're here. 4 00:00:13,839 --> 00:00:15,232 I may be a little rusty. 5 00:00:15,319 --> 00:00:17,756 - I met T on a feederism website. 6 00:00:17,843 --> 00:00:19,367 He was very caring. 7 00:00:19,454 --> 00:00:21,412 And it wasn't completely just, how big can I get you? 8 00:00:21,499 --> 00:00:23,458 How much can I feed you? How much do you wanna eat? 9 00:00:23,545 --> 00:00:24,676 - Let's search the number. 10 00:00:24,763 --> 00:00:26,113 Maybe we'll get an actual name. 11 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,462 - T! - This is him! 12 00:00:27,549 --> 00:00:28,550 - That's him. We found him. 13 00:00:28,637 --> 00:00:29,768 - Who is that man? 14 00:00:29,855 --> 00:00:30,595 - Prime suspect is right there. 15 00:00:30,682 --> 00:00:31,727 - Think that's T? 16 00:00:31,814 --> 00:00:34,773 - Excuse me, T? 17 00:00:34,860 --> 00:00:37,515 [dramatic musical sting] 18 00:00:37,602 --> 00:00:39,561 [funky music] 19 00:00:39,648 --> 00:00:40,910 - All right. 20 00:00:40,997 --> 00:00:42,999 Well, we're back at it. 21 00:00:43,086 --> 00:00:44,392 Well, at least I'm back at it. 22 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,786 Kamie Crawford is not available to film today. 23 00:00:47,873 --> 00:00:50,528 And she left me in a little bit of a tight spot. 24 00:00:50,615 --> 00:00:52,400 I need a cohost. 25 00:00:52,487 --> 00:00:54,880 All right, I really didn't think 26 00:00:54,967 --> 00:00:56,186 I was ever gonna have to do this 27 00:00:56,273 --> 00:00:57,883 and that this day would ever come. 28 00:00:57,970 --> 00:01:04,151 But I'm going to have to call in the emergency reserves. 29 00:01:04,238 --> 00:01:05,413 [sighs] 30 00:01:05,500 --> 00:01:08,372 [tense music] 31 00:01:08,459 --> 00:01:15,075 ♪ ♪ 32 00:01:24,910 --> 00:01:26,912 [blows, coughs] 33 00:01:32,788 --> 00:01:34,746 It is time. 34 00:01:34,833 --> 00:01:35,834 [imitates crow] 35 00:01:38,837 --> 00:01:40,883 There he is! 36 00:01:40,970 --> 00:01:42,580 [cheers and applause] 37 00:01:42,667 --> 00:01:44,843 Max, you're back! 38 00:01:44,930 --> 00:01:46,106 - In the flesh. 39 00:01:46,193 --> 00:01:47,498 - Wow. 40 00:01:47,585 --> 00:01:50,501 - I've got-- I've got it all here for you. 41 00:01:50,588 --> 00:01:51,459 - There she is. - There she is. 42 00:01:51,546 --> 00:01:53,069 - Oh, my God. - It's a little dusty. 43 00:01:53,156 --> 00:01:54,462 - Just how I remember her. 44 00:01:54,549 --> 00:01:56,855 Wow, look at that. 45 00:01:56,942 --> 00:01:57,900 - Well, I obviously missed you. 46 00:01:57,987 --> 00:01:59,336 I didn't tell you this. 47 00:01:59,423 --> 00:02:00,859 I just got a tattoo. 48 00:02:00,946 --> 00:02:03,732 - [laughs] 49 00:02:03,819 --> 00:02:07,475 - I don't know if you're cool with it or not, but-- 50 00:02:07,562 --> 00:02:09,694 - Let's--let's get a close-up of that-- 51 00:02:09,781 --> 00:02:11,609 of that beauty right there. 52 00:02:11,696 --> 00:02:13,350 Looks fresh. 53 00:02:13,437 --> 00:02:14,438 Is it tender? 54 00:02:14,525 --> 00:02:15,744 How tender? 55 00:02:18,225 --> 00:02:19,530 Wow. 56 00:02:19,617 --> 00:02:21,924 I can't believe we're here. - Here we are. 57 00:02:22,011 --> 00:02:23,273 - How long--how long has it been? 58 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,144 - Five years. - Five years? 59 00:02:24,231 --> 00:02:24,927 - Yeah. 60 00:02:25,014 --> 00:02:26,711 - Get away from me. 61 00:02:26,798 --> 00:02:28,887 - I can't believe it's been half a decade. 62 00:02:28,974 --> 00:02:30,933 It feels like just yesterday, we were doing this 63 00:02:31,020 --> 00:02:32,848 every week together. - Yeah. 64 00:02:32,935 --> 00:02:33,849 - It's really nice to have you back, buddy. 65 00:02:33,936 --> 00:02:36,721 - Aw. 66 00:02:36,808 --> 00:02:39,115 - So what have you been doing these past five years? 67 00:02:39,202 --> 00:02:43,032 - I made a documentary with Monica Lewinsky. 68 00:02:43,119 --> 00:02:45,382 - You made a great film called "15 Minutes of Shame," 69 00:02:45,469 --> 00:02:46,427 which explored the hidden price 70 00:02:46,514 --> 00:02:47,993 of online shaming. 71 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,082 And it was amazing. - Thank you. 72 00:02:50,170 --> 00:02:54,174 And after 20 years of living in LA, 73 00:02:54,261 --> 00:02:57,786 I have now returned to New York City. 74 00:02:57,873 --> 00:02:59,962 - Wow, back to New York. - Yeah. 75 00:03:00,049 --> 00:03:01,790 - Back on "Catfish." 76 00:03:01,877 --> 00:03:03,095 Sounds like you're going backwards. 77 00:03:03,183 --> 00:03:05,054 - No, no, no, no, no, no. [laughs] 78 00:03:05,141 --> 00:03:07,535 No, Catfish, I am visiting. 79 00:03:07,622 --> 00:03:10,059 I think the show is better with Kamie. 80 00:03:10,146 --> 00:03:12,148 I think Kamie is great. 81 00:03:12,235 --> 00:03:13,802 - She's great. - She's wise. 82 00:03:13,889 --> 00:03:15,412 She's cool. 83 00:03:15,499 --> 00:03:17,545 She's always got the right thing to say to people. 84 00:03:17,632 --> 00:03:19,199 I'm kind of intimidated. 85 00:03:19,286 --> 00:03:21,679 Like, I don't know if I can step in 86 00:03:21,766 --> 00:03:24,160 and do what she's been doing. 87 00:03:24,247 --> 00:03:26,423 So I think that she's added value for sure. 88 00:03:26,510 --> 00:03:29,078 You, you know-- 89 00:03:29,165 --> 00:03:32,429 - I'm waiting--I'm waiting for someone to take me away. 90 00:03:32,516 --> 00:03:37,129 To just-- - Anyway, I have a--you know, 91 00:03:37,217 --> 00:03:38,870 someone new in my life. - Really? 92 00:03:38,957 --> 00:03:40,437 - I hope you don't mind, but I couldn't get a dog sitter. 93 00:03:40,524 --> 00:03:41,830 So here he is. 94 00:03:41,917 --> 00:03:45,790 - Aww! Hello. 95 00:03:45,877 --> 00:03:48,010 - This is Simon. - Hey, Simon. 96 00:03:48,097 --> 00:03:49,229 - He's coming with us. 97 00:03:49,316 --> 00:03:50,795 I hope that's okay. - Yeah. 98 00:03:50,882 --> 00:03:51,796 Are you ready to do this? 99 00:03:51,883 --> 00:03:53,363 - All right, back to work. 100 00:03:53,450 --> 00:03:55,844 - All right, here's an email from Zahra, 101 00:03:55,931 --> 00:03:58,716 subject, Hungry for Love. 102 00:03:58,803 --> 00:04:00,240 - "Hi, Team Catfish. 103 00:04:00,327 --> 00:04:02,938 "My name is Zahra from Orange, New Jersey. 104 00:04:03,025 --> 00:04:05,506 "I'm 29 and work as a hospital worker. 105 00:04:05,593 --> 00:04:11,163 "I could really use your help in finding my boyfriend, T." 106 00:04:11,251 --> 00:04:12,513 Just T, the letter T. 107 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,342 Well, no wonder she can't find him. 108 00:04:15,429 --> 00:04:17,648 "We met in an unconventional way 109 00:04:17,735 --> 00:04:23,263 on a website for people into feederism." 110 00:04:23,350 --> 00:04:24,873 - I don't--I don't-- - What's feederism? 111 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,744 - I don't know. Let's see. 112 00:04:26,831 --> 00:04:30,270 "Fat fetish subculture in which individuals 113 00:04:30,357 --> 00:04:32,924 "eroticize weight gain and feeding. 114 00:04:33,011 --> 00:04:34,883 "Feeders become sexually aroused 115 00:04:34,970 --> 00:04:36,276 "by feeding their partners, 116 00:04:36,363 --> 00:04:38,365 encouraging them to gain weight." 117 00:04:38,452 --> 00:04:39,670 Wow. 118 00:04:39,757 --> 00:04:41,846 "I was his feedee, 119 00:04:41,933 --> 00:04:44,849 and he was my feeder." 120 00:04:44,936 --> 00:04:47,374 - How do you have a feederistic relationship virtually? 121 00:04:47,461 --> 00:04:51,160 - Maybe delivery. - Delivery. 122 00:04:51,247 --> 00:04:54,729 - "T's 32 and works at a warehouse. 123 00:04:54,816 --> 00:04:55,991 "He says he lives in upstate New York, 124 00:04:56,078 --> 00:04:57,514 "but he travels for work, 125 00:04:57,601 --> 00:04:59,647 so he's never in the same place for too long. 126 00:04:59,734 --> 00:05:01,475 "I don't have any socials. 127 00:05:01,562 --> 00:05:02,650 "He doesn't have social media. 128 00:05:02,737 --> 00:05:05,217 "We just text and talk on the phone. 129 00:05:05,305 --> 00:05:07,916 "But when we first talked, we instantly hit it off. 130 00:05:08,003 --> 00:05:09,396 "We had so much in common. 131 00:05:09,483 --> 00:05:11,093 "From the moment I first talked to him, 132 00:05:11,180 --> 00:05:12,877 "we had a special connection. 133 00:05:12,964 --> 00:05:15,358 "T really understands me and is super caring. 134 00:05:15,445 --> 00:05:17,273 "He's one of the few people I feel 135 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,494 "I can really be myself with. 136 00:05:20,581 --> 00:05:24,498 "However, T won't physically meet me. 137 00:05:24,585 --> 00:05:26,108 "We talk about a future together 138 00:05:26,195 --> 00:05:27,979 "and even moving in together, 139 00:05:28,066 --> 00:05:30,591 "but when push comes to shove, we never end up meeting. 140 00:05:30,678 --> 00:05:33,681 "He still hasn't even FaceTimed me. 141 00:05:33,768 --> 00:05:37,075 "He always has an excuse about work or his kid. 142 00:05:37,162 --> 00:05:40,731 "Despite all this, my love for him still runs deep. 143 00:05:40,818 --> 00:05:42,907 "I truly believe we can be happy together 144 00:05:42,994 --> 00:05:44,822 "and he'll always make me feel safe. 145 00:05:44,909 --> 00:05:47,608 "Please help me find my forever guy. 146 00:05:47,695 --> 00:05:49,349 All my hope, Zahra." 147 00:05:52,264 --> 00:05:53,962 That's interesting and very different. 148 00:05:54,049 --> 00:05:56,704 Welcome back. - Thank you. 149 00:05:56,791 --> 00:05:59,924 - It sounds like T's feeding her a bunch of bullshit. 150 00:06:00,011 --> 00:06:00,969 - Well done. 151 00:06:01,056 --> 00:06:03,319 - Let's just call Zahra. 152 00:06:03,406 --> 00:06:05,103 All right. [line trills] 153 00:06:06,670 --> 00:06:09,586 - Hello, Zahra? It's Nev from "Catfish." 154 00:06:13,285 --> 00:06:14,765 - Going great. 155 00:06:14,852 --> 00:06:17,812 I have a cohost with me that you may recognize. 156 00:06:17,899 --> 00:06:18,465 Do you remember Max? 157 00:06:20,075 --> 00:06:21,511 - So, believe it or not, Max is back 158 00:06:21,598 --> 00:06:23,121 to guest cohost an episode. 159 00:06:23,208 --> 00:06:24,122 And this is it. 160 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,951 - Hi, Zahra. 161 00:06:27,038 --> 00:06:29,084 - So we just read your email, and it's pretty wild. 162 00:06:29,171 --> 00:06:31,739 - You're gonna have to tell us a lot about feederism. 163 00:06:31,826 --> 00:06:33,218 - We're very curious. 164 00:06:33,305 --> 00:06:36,613 - We'll get to the bottom of whatever is going on. 165 00:06:36,700 --> 00:06:38,615 - Well, look, why don't we just meet up? 166 00:06:38,702 --> 00:06:40,661 We'll come to New Jersey. 167 00:06:40,748 --> 00:06:42,750 And then hopefully, we can help you figure out what's going on 168 00:06:42,837 --> 00:06:44,012 and meet this guy. 169 00:06:46,318 --> 00:06:47,232 - See you soon. 170 00:06:48,843 --> 00:06:52,237 - He's clearly hiding something big. 171 00:06:52,324 --> 00:06:54,501 - But Orange is very close to the city, 172 00:06:54,588 --> 00:06:56,590 where both of us now live. 173 00:06:56,677 --> 00:06:57,808 We could carpool. 174 00:06:57,895 --> 00:07:00,158 Shall we? 175 00:07:00,245 --> 00:07:01,290 - Thought you'd never ask. 176 00:07:01,377 --> 00:07:04,119 [upbeat music] 177 00:07:04,206 --> 00:07:05,555 - Jersey, look at this. 178 00:07:05,642 --> 00:07:06,948 - We're here. - We made it. 179 00:07:07,035 --> 00:07:09,298 - Joisey. 180 00:07:09,385 --> 00:07:10,995 What is in it for Zahra here? 181 00:07:11,082 --> 00:07:13,955 She's holding on because this guy is her man. 182 00:07:14,042 --> 00:07:16,566 - Well, because it must be hard for her to find people. 183 00:07:16,653 --> 00:07:18,612 - Another feeder fetish guy? 184 00:07:18,699 --> 00:07:19,700 - Yeah. 185 00:07:19,787 --> 00:07:20,918 - Also, who has no social media? 186 00:07:21,005 --> 00:07:22,659 Nobody. 187 00:07:22,746 --> 00:07:25,532 How do people still get by with that excuse? 188 00:07:25,619 --> 00:07:27,795 - What's crazy is that even since you've been gone, 189 00:07:27,882 --> 00:07:29,579 nothing's really changed. 190 00:07:29,666 --> 00:07:32,495 People are still just as desperate to find love as ever. 191 00:07:34,889 --> 00:07:36,804 All right, ready? 192 00:07:36,891 --> 00:07:39,807 - I may be a little rusty, so just back me up. 193 00:07:39,894 --> 00:07:44,072 ♪ ♪ 194 00:07:44,159 --> 00:07:46,857 Oh, hello. 195 00:07:46,944 --> 00:07:48,119 - Hello. Hey, you guys. 196 00:07:48,206 --> 00:07:49,251 You can come on in. 197 00:07:49,338 --> 00:07:50,948 - What's up? Hey, Zahra. 198 00:07:51,035 --> 00:07:52,297 - Hey, how you doing? - Good, good. 199 00:07:52,384 --> 00:07:53,473 How are you? - I'm good, thanks. 200 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,431 Hey, Max. - Nice to meet you. 201 00:07:55,518 --> 00:07:56,258 - Please have a seat. 202 00:07:56,345 --> 00:07:57,607 - All right, I will. 203 00:07:59,696 --> 00:08:01,655 - Okay, I'm used to bigger cameras. 204 00:08:01,742 --> 00:08:03,439 Please bear with me. 205 00:08:03,526 --> 00:08:05,441 I'm just kind of getting the hang of things again, you know? 206 00:08:05,528 --> 00:08:09,010 - Okay. - Truth is, he's losing it. 207 00:08:09,097 --> 00:08:10,925 He forgot he's not on the show anymore. 208 00:08:11,012 --> 00:08:12,970 And he just showed up. 209 00:08:13,057 --> 00:08:14,885 And we're just kind of letting him-- 210 00:08:14,972 --> 00:08:16,713 - Just going with it? Okay. 211 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,281 - So, Zahra, you work at a hospital. 212 00:08:19,368 --> 00:08:20,848 - Yeah. - And what do you do there? 213 00:08:20,935 --> 00:08:23,198 - I work in the nutrition department as a supervisor, 214 00:08:23,285 --> 00:08:24,939 inside the kitchen area, and just 215 00:08:25,026 --> 00:08:26,244 make sure everything's good. 216 00:08:26,331 --> 00:08:28,377 - Right, so, I guess feeder adjacent. 217 00:08:28,464 --> 00:08:30,858 - Wow. That's true. - Let's just--come on-- 218 00:08:30,945 --> 00:08:32,337 Let's cut the-- cut the bullshit. 219 00:08:32,424 --> 00:08:33,730 What's feederism? 220 00:08:33,817 --> 00:08:36,428 - Okay, so feederism can be many things. 221 00:08:36,516 --> 00:08:37,865 You have two people that are into it, 222 00:08:37,952 --> 00:08:39,867 you have a feeder and you have a feedee. 223 00:08:39,954 --> 00:08:42,130 You basically have a relationship based off 224 00:08:42,217 --> 00:08:44,959 of the feeders wanting to either make you bigger 225 00:08:45,046 --> 00:08:46,787 or keep you fed. 226 00:08:46,874 --> 00:08:48,353 It doesn't always have to necessarily 227 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,399 be making you bigger or stuffing you, 228 00:08:50,486 --> 00:08:52,053 but there's different levels to it. 229 00:08:52,140 --> 00:08:54,751 You have people that do stuff like take ranch baths 230 00:08:54,838 --> 00:08:56,492 and things like that. - Ranch dressing? They do? 231 00:08:56,579 --> 00:08:59,887 - Baths of ranch and gravy. 232 00:08:59,974 --> 00:09:01,366 I wouldn't go that-- I mean, who knows. 233 00:09:01,453 --> 00:09:02,585 - Gravy baths? 234 00:09:02,672 --> 00:09:04,718 I knew this was gonna get saucy. 235 00:09:06,937 --> 00:09:08,373 - A lot of the times, the feeder 236 00:09:08,460 --> 00:09:11,333 isn't 100% comfortable with being physical 237 00:09:11,420 --> 00:09:12,813 or physically intimate. 238 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:15,424 But they do like the idea that I just ate 239 00:09:15,511 --> 00:09:17,382 all this food that you sent me. 240 00:09:17,469 --> 00:09:19,080 And here's a picture or a video of, 241 00:09:19,167 --> 00:09:20,560 like, me completely stuffed. 242 00:09:20,647 --> 00:09:23,432 And it's not unheard of for a feeder 243 00:09:23,519 --> 00:09:25,347 to be in a relationship being that feederism 244 00:09:25,434 --> 00:09:27,218 is solely based on kink. 245 00:09:27,305 --> 00:09:30,352 So it's kind of like a secretive type of lifestyle. 246 00:09:30,439 --> 00:09:34,835 - So can we get more specific now about how you and T met? 247 00:09:34,922 --> 00:09:37,968 - So basically, once I started getting into the feederism, 248 00:09:38,055 --> 00:09:40,536 I started getting into this feederism website. 249 00:09:40,623 --> 00:09:42,799 I posted some pics. 250 00:09:42,886 --> 00:09:45,106 They got a lot of feedback, a lot of people messaging me. 251 00:09:45,193 --> 00:09:46,716 But it was all fetishized. 252 00:09:46,803 --> 00:09:48,370 It was all like, I wanna see this, 253 00:09:48,457 --> 00:09:50,024 I wanna see you do that. How big do you wanna get? 254 00:09:50,111 --> 00:09:52,026 How--you know, things like that. 255 00:09:52,113 --> 00:09:57,640 I feel like with T, he actually had an open response to me. 256 00:09:57,727 --> 00:09:58,989 He was very caring. 257 00:09:59,076 --> 00:10:00,382 He asked, how's your day going? 258 00:10:00,469 --> 00:10:01,992 How are you feeling? 259 00:10:02,079 --> 00:10:03,428 You're very beautiful, do you know that? 260 00:10:03,515 --> 00:10:06,518 And it wasn't completely just into how big can I get you? 261 00:10:06,606 --> 00:10:08,651 How much can I feed you? How much do you wanna eat? 262 00:10:08,738 --> 00:10:11,436 It seemed like he really wanted to know me as a person. 263 00:10:11,523 --> 00:10:14,614 And that stood out to me more than like everyone else. 264 00:10:14,701 --> 00:10:16,311 - You wanted to have some conversation. 265 00:10:16,398 --> 00:10:17,704 - Right. Exactly. 266 00:10:17,791 --> 00:10:19,227 Exactly. 267 00:10:19,314 --> 00:10:23,318 - But the contact he made with you was, at its core, 268 00:10:23,405 --> 00:10:25,233 still about him wanting to feed you? 269 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,451 - Right. 270 00:10:26,538 --> 00:10:27,714 - So he bought you food? - Right. 271 00:10:27,801 --> 00:10:29,890 - And how much did he spend on that? 272 00:10:29,977 --> 00:10:31,805 Like hundreds of dollars? - Probably more. 273 00:10:31,892 --> 00:10:33,633 - Like over $1,000? - Probably, yeah. 274 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,156 - Wow. 275 00:10:35,243 --> 00:10:36,374 - So the first time, he was like, are you hungry? 276 00:10:36,461 --> 00:10:37,985 I was like, yeah. 277 00:10:38,072 --> 00:10:39,029 And he was like, well, what could you eat? 278 00:10:39,116 --> 00:10:40,378 I said, I don't know. 279 00:10:40,465 --> 00:10:41,641 I probably could eat a lot right now. 280 00:10:41,728 --> 00:10:42,990 He was like, well, I'm gonna send you 281 00:10:43,077 --> 00:10:44,948 something to eat to make sure that you're fed. 282 00:10:45,035 --> 00:10:46,689 And basically, that's it. 283 00:10:46,776 --> 00:10:49,039 - And how long does it take for you guys 284 00:10:49,126 --> 00:10:52,521 to, like, start talking about something 285 00:10:52,608 --> 00:10:54,828 bigger than just the fetish? 286 00:10:54,915 --> 00:10:57,265 - Yeah, so we have great conversations. 287 00:10:57,352 --> 00:11:00,050 He's super into me, makes me feel really good. 288 00:11:00,137 --> 00:11:01,530 But I never really thought we were going 289 00:11:01,617 --> 00:11:03,880 to get past the feeder/feedee relationship 290 00:11:03,967 --> 00:11:07,971 because he did voice to me that he was in a relationship. 291 00:11:08,058 --> 00:11:10,582 But then a few months ago, he told me 292 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:12,454 that he broke up with his girlfriend. 293 00:11:12,541 --> 00:11:16,458 And he had mentioned that he'd be interested in, you know, 294 00:11:16,545 --> 00:11:18,242 being my full-time or long-term feeder, 295 00:11:18,329 --> 00:11:20,767 but also my boyfriend, like being in a relationship 296 00:11:20,854 --> 00:11:23,030 with me, us living together, him taking care of me, 297 00:11:23,117 --> 00:11:25,206 in a, like, everyday type of setting. 298 00:11:25,293 --> 00:11:27,556 - And have you ever had someone in your life 299 00:11:27,643 --> 00:11:29,427 say those kinds of things? 300 00:11:29,514 --> 00:11:32,648 - No, I mean, a lot of times with relationships outside 301 00:11:32,735 --> 00:11:35,695 of feederism, it's been like, yeah, she's big, she's fat, 302 00:11:35,782 --> 00:11:38,132 I like her, but I wanna change her. 303 00:11:38,219 --> 00:11:40,787 Like, I know if she did this, 304 00:11:40,874 --> 00:11:42,310 she'd be so much better looking. 305 00:11:42,397 --> 00:11:43,964 But you know, I like to eat. 306 00:11:44,051 --> 00:11:45,487 So if you're trying to change me, 307 00:11:45,574 --> 00:11:47,228 it's just gonna be a lot of back and forth. 308 00:11:47,315 --> 00:11:49,012 And my relationships haven't worked out 309 00:11:49,099 --> 00:11:51,275 because you wanna change me so bad. 310 00:11:51,362 --> 00:11:55,018 And I know that feederism is, like, not the most healthy 311 00:11:55,105 --> 00:11:56,803 thing in the world to do. 312 00:11:56,890 --> 00:11:58,848 But T doesn't wanna change me. 313 00:11:58,935 --> 00:12:00,067 T wants me to be exactly how I am. 314 00:12:00,154 --> 00:12:03,244 That's something that makes him different. 315 00:12:03,331 --> 00:12:06,900 [soft music] 316 00:12:06,987 --> 00:12:09,946 I feel like we could be very good together. 317 00:12:10,033 --> 00:12:11,948 I feel like we could have a life 318 00:12:12,035 --> 00:12:14,516 that we could enjoy away from the outside world, 319 00:12:14,603 --> 00:12:16,344 just the two of us. 320 00:12:16,431 --> 00:12:17,432 I love the way he makes me feel. 321 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:20,087 He makes me feel very secure. 322 00:12:20,174 --> 00:12:22,132 - Now you are official. 323 00:12:22,219 --> 00:12:24,482 - Yes. That's my man. Like, we're together. 324 00:12:24,569 --> 00:12:25,701 We're in a relationship. 325 00:12:25,788 --> 00:12:27,137 - Have you tried to meet up with him? 326 00:12:27,224 --> 00:12:30,662 - I have, but he travels a lot for work. 327 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:32,534 He is a warehouse manager. 328 00:12:32,621 --> 00:12:35,015 He has to go to different warehouses to manage them. 329 00:12:35,102 --> 00:12:37,582 And then also, he has, like, four kids. 330 00:12:37,669 --> 00:12:40,194 - Are the conversations you have mostly over the phone? 331 00:12:40,281 --> 00:12:43,153 - Texting, sometimes calling, but not that often, 332 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,416 because he's usually in a situation where 333 00:12:45,503 --> 00:12:46,678 he really can't talk on the phone. 334 00:12:46,766 --> 00:12:48,202 - But you talk often? 335 00:12:48,289 --> 00:12:49,943 Would you say you guys talk every day? 336 00:12:50,030 --> 00:12:51,988 - Yeah. - Do you love him? 337 00:12:52,075 --> 00:12:53,642 - I love him. 338 00:12:53,729 --> 00:12:54,730 - I gotta see this guy. 339 00:12:54,817 --> 00:12:56,210 Can we--can we--can I see T? 340 00:12:56,297 --> 00:12:57,515 - Yeah, you can see T. 341 00:12:57,602 --> 00:12:58,560 - Let's get down to biz. 342 00:12:58,647 --> 00:13:00,954 - Okay, that's him. 343 00:13:01,041 --> 00:13:02,520 - He's cool. 344 00:13:02,607 --> 00:13:04,218 How many pictures do you have? - Just those three. 345 00:13:04,305 --> 00:13:05,306 - Just those? - Okay. 346 00:13:05,393 --> 00:13:06,350 Did he send those to you? 347 00:13:06,437 --> 00:13:07,743 Or those are just off his profile? 348 00:13:07,830 --> 00:13:08,831 - Those are the same ones that are on his profile. 349 00:13:08,918 --> 00:13:10,441 - Why can't he send you a photo? 350 00:13:10,528 --> 00:13:11,660 - I don't know. 351 00:13:11,747 --> 00:13:13,096 - Do you ever press him about it? 352 00:13:13,183 --> 00:13:15,011 - Not really, because he just does so much for me 353 00:13:15,098 --> 00:13:16,752 that I don't wanna lose him by making him 354 00:13:16,839 --> 00:13:18,493 feel uncomfortable. 355 00:13:18,580 --> 00:13:21,670 - All right, so there is a real dynamic here, 356 00:13:21,757 --> 00:13:24,760 it sounds like that the feeders often prefer 357 00:13:24,847 --> 00:13:26,718 privacy and sort of anonymity. 358 00:13:26,806 --> 00:13:30,418 So are you concerned at all that T might be putting off 359 00:13:30,505 --> 00:13:33,377 meeting up because he doesn't feel comfortable 360 00:13:33,464 --> 00:13:35,858 revealing to his family or friends 361 00:13:35,945 --> 00:13:37,120 who he really is? 362 00:13:37,207 --> 00:13:39,079 - I mean, that could be the reason. 363 00:13:39,166 --> 00:13:42,299 But honestly, I feel like with T, 364 00:13:42,386 --> 00:13:44,824 you took it to the next step where you said you loved me. 365 00:13:44,911 --> 00:13:48,001 You said what you want out of a relationship. 366 00:13:48,088 --> 00:13:51,178 So if you felt like you don't want to have everyone, 367 00:13:51,265 --> 00:13:54,137 like--just so keep it as a secretive feederism 368 00:13:54,224 --> 00:13:56,270 relationship, you didn't have to take it to the next step. 369 00:13:56,357 --> 00:13:57,837 - Exactly. 370 00:13:57,924 --> 00:13:59,186 Okay, so we'll do some research tomorrow. 371 00:13:59,273 --> 00:14:00,709 We'll see if there's anything to find. 372 00:14:00,796 --> 00:14:02,929 I mean, we really only have his phone number and some photos. 373 00:14:03,016 --> 00:14:04,408 - Sometimes that's all you need. 374 00:14:04,495 --> 00:14:05,670 - Okay, sounds good. I'm looking forward to it. 375 00:14:05,757 --> 00:14:07,977 - All right. Got some work to do. 376 00:14:08,064 --> 00:14:09,500 - We will get back to you with some results. 377 00:14:09,587 --> 00:14:10,980 - Okay. Thank you. 378 00:14:11,067 --> 00:14:14,462 - This is wild. - This is totally wild. 379 00:14:14,549 --> 00:14:17,900 She's starving for a true physical connection. 380 00:14:17,987 --> 00:14:19,293 - Yeah, something's gotta give. 381 00:14:19,380 --> 00:14:20,816 - It's T just a genuine guy 382 00:14:20,903 --> 00:14:22,339 who's shy about how they met? 383 00:14:22,426 --> 00:14:25,429 - Or is there something nefarious going on here? 384 00:14:37,224 --> 00:14:38,355 - Okay. - Thanks for the ride, babe. 385 00:14:38,442 --> 00:14:39,487 - Thanks, Mom. 386 00:14:39,574 --> 00:14:42,142 - Hey! - The gang's all here. 387 00:14:42,229 --> 00:14:44,231 - Whoa. 388 00:14:44,318 --> 00:14:48,452 All right, Cleo, you wanna show everyone how you use the boom? 389 00:14:48,539 --> 00:14:52,413 - I actually think the union might have an issue with this. 390 00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:53,718 - Yeah, like that. 391 00:14:53,805 --> 00:14:56,330 - Nice, Cleo. - Testing, testing. 392 00:14:56,417 --> 00:14:57,374 - All right, we gotta get to work, all right? 393 00:14:59,333 --> 00:15:00,334 - No, you guys are gonna go to the mall 394 00:15:00,421 --> 00:15:01,857 while me and Max go to work. 395 00:15:01,944 --> 00:15:03,467 And then I'll see you later. 396 00:15:03,554 --> 00:15:04,425 - It's gonna be super fun. 397 00:15:04,512 --> 00:15:06,644 [laughter] 398 00:15:06,731 --> 00:15:10,518 - For real. I gotta get to work. 399 00:15:10,605 --> 00:15:13,564 - You know how much he had to pay them to do this? 400 00:15:13,651 --> 00:15:15,349 - I love you. 401 00:15:15,436 --> 00:15:17,786 Have a nice day. 402 00:15:17,873 --> 00:15:19,005 We'll miss you, kind of. 403 00:15:19,092 --> 00:15:20,789 - All right, ready to investigate? 404 00:15:20,876 --> 00:15:23,270 - All right, let's go. 405 00:15:23,357 --> 00:15:25,011 - This place is cute. 406 00:15:25,098 --> 00:15:26,360 - Do you think this is gonna be a piece of cake? 407 00:15:26,447 --> 00:15:28,797 Or is this gonna be a tough nut to crack? 408 00:15:28,884 --> 00:15:30,320 - I don't know. 409 00:15:30,407 --> 00:15:33,193 Before we do that, we have to do a recap. 410 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,108 Your favorite part of every episode. 411 00:15:35,195 --> 00:15:37,153 - Well, 'cause you love doing it, 412 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,589 'cause you're a ham and you like-- 413 00:15:38,676 --> 00:15:41,070 - Ham? 414 00:15:41,157 --> 00:15:42,811 [dog whines] - Hey, buddy. 415 00:15:42,898 --> 00:15:45,379 Who brought the dog to the catfish party? 416 00:15:45,466 --> 00:15:46,728 Hello, cute boy. 417 00:15:46,815 --> 00:15:48,904 - All right, quick recap. 418 00:15:48,991 --> 00:15:54,388 Zahra met T on a kink website 419 00:15:54,475 --> 00:15:58,783 that matches people who want to feed someone 420 00:15:58,870 --> 00:16:00,307 with people who want to be fed. 421 00:16:00,394 --> 00:16:02,352 Over the course of their relationship, 422 00:16:02,439 --> 00:16:05,094 it became clear that T had a girlfriend. 423 00:16:05,181 --> 00:16:07,531 But she liked him because he was respectful 424 00:16:07,618 --> 00:16:09,533 and interested in her. 425 00:16:09,620 --> 00:16:11,144 And then a few months ago, T reveals that 426 00:16:11,231 --> 00:16:13,015 he's no longer in a relationship. 427 00:16:13,102 --> 00:16:15,191 So they immediately become boyfriend/girlfriend. 428 00:16:15,278 --> 00:16:17,367 Zahra is excited, but he can't meet. 429 00:16:17,454 --> 00:16:18,978 Things just keep getting in the way. 430 00:16:19,065 --> 00:16:20,718 I think it's pretty clear that something's wrong. 431 00:16:20,805 --> 00:16:22,459 - It's bananas. 432 00:16:22,546 --> 00:16:24,113 - It's a lot. 433 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,593 We got an email here from Zahra. 434 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,552 "Hey, Nev and Max, here is everything I know about T. 435 00:16:28,639 --> 00:16:31,555 "He's 32 years old and lives in upstate New York. 436 00:16:31,642 --> 00:16:33,079 His phone number is this." 437 00:16:33,166 --> 00:16:35,559 - 631 is a Long Island area code. 438 00:16:35,646 --> 00:16:37,344 No one calls Long Island upstate. 439 00:16:37,431 --> 00:16:38,823 - No. 440 00:16:38,910 --> 00:16:40,390 "I attached the three pictures I have 441 00:16:40,477 --> 00:16:42,392 "as well as the picture of his profile 442 00:16:42,479 --> 00:16:43,915 on the website we met on." 443 00:16:44,003 --> 00:16:45,700 Let's download these pictures. 444 00:16:45,787 --> 00:16:47,049 Do you know about PimEyes? 445 00:16:47,136 --> 00:16:47,876 - PimEyes? 446 00:16:47,963 --> 00:16:49,834 - PimEyes is the latest. 447 00:16:49,921 --> 00:16:51,662 Instead of searching the picture, 448 00:16:51,749 --> 00:16:54,752 it just analyzes the face and actually searches 449 00:16:54,839 --> 00:16:56,711 for that face across the internet. 450 00:16:56,798 --> 00:16:58,191 Yeah, it's pretty cool. 451 00:16:58,278 --> 00:17:00,671 - Uh-oh, what are we gonna get? 452 00:17:00,758 --> 00:17:01,803 - No hits there. 453 00:17:01,890 --> 00:17:04,762 Let's just try another picture. 454 00:17:04,849 --> 00:17:07,983 No hits. So no matches on that picture. 455 00:17:08,070 --> 00:17:11,552 Let's see if, just by chance, we get lucky with this one. 456 00:17:11,639 --> 00:17:13,467 Nothing. No hits. 457 00:17:13,554 --> 00:17:15,860 - Come on. There's--you've got no other-- 458 00:17:15,947 --> 00:17:19,212 in five years, all you got is PimEyes? 459 00:17:19,299 --> 00:17:21,605 So we've hit somewhat of a dead end here. 460 00:17:21,692 --> 00:17:23,129 - All right, well, let's search the number then. 461 00:17:23,216 --> 00:17:25,000 Maybe we'll get an actual name. 462 00:17:25,087 --> 00:17:26,262 I mean, we don't even his last name. 463 00:17:26,349 --> 00:17:27,350 It's crazy. 464 00:17:27,437 --> 00:17:28,743 Ooh-- - T! 465 00:17:28,830 --> 00:17:30,092 - Oh! - T! 466 00:17:30,179 --> 00:17:31,615 Tarik [bleep]. 467 00:17:31,702 --> 00:17:33,443 Look, there's his full name. 468 00:17:33,530 --> 00:17:36,577 - 42, which, honestly, it makes more sense. 469 00:17:36,664 --> 00:17:37,795 I mean, if he has four kids-- 470 00:17:37,882 --> 00:17:38,970 - He's a little older. 471 00:17:39,058 --> 00:17:40,494 - I mean, that's a big difference. 472 00:17:40,581 --> 00:17:42,365 People think you're 32, but you're actually 42? 473 00:17:42,452 --> 00:17:44,367 - Yeah, I'm 42. 474 00:17:44,454 --> 00:17:45,542 Gross. - Ew. 475 00:17:45,629 --> 00:17:47,631 - Ew. 476 00:17:47,718 --> 00:17:48,850 - All right. 477 00:17:48,937 --> 00:17:50,678 - Okay, so he lied about his age. 478 00:17:50,765 --> 00:17:51,983 - That's not great. 479 00:17:52,071 --> 00:17:52,767 Let's look this guy up. 480 00:17:52,854 --> 00:17:54,856 Let's do Facebook. 481 00:17:54,943 --> 00:17:57,859 - Tarik [bleep], New York. 482 00:17:57,946 --> 00:17:59,991 - Pretty unique name. 483 00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:02,472 - Mm! - Ah! Who's this guy? 484 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:05,214 - Okay, he's got kids. Rochester. 485 00:18:05,301 --> 00:18:07,086 Rochester's upstate New York. - Yes. 486 00:18:07,173 --> 00:18:08,130 - The Roch. - Okay, so wait a second. 487 00:18:08,217 --> 00:18:09,740 So this-- - We've been there. 488 00:18:09,827 --> 00:18:11,786 - This could be him. - Could be. 489 00:18:11,873 --> 00:18:12,787 - Who's this? He's feeding someone. 490 00:18:12,874 --> 00:18:14,528 - He's feeding somebody. 491 00:18:14,615 --> 00:18:16,921 - Dinner date night, amazing food. 492 00:18:17,008 --> 00:18:19,968 - Date night. - That's a recent post too. 493 00:18:20,055 --> 00:18:21,491 - What does he say in this picture here? 494 00:18:21,578 --> 00:18:23,580 - Our firstborn daughter, senior prom. 495 00:18:23,667 --> 00:18:25,713 - Ourfirstborn daughter. 496 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,367 So he's speaking in the we. 497 00:18:27,454 --> 00:18:29,978 When you speak in the we, you're generally not divorced. 498 00:18:30,065 --> 00:18:32,676 This guy seems like a family guy. 499 00:18:32,763 --> 00:18:38,247 - Maybe his whole feederism profile could be secret. 500 00:18:38,334 --> 00:18:40,597 And he's using fake pictures to hide it. 501 00:18:40,684 --> 00:18:43,078 It's just part of his life that no one knows about. 502 00:18:43,165 --> 00:18:44,514 - He's got grown kids. 503 00:18:44,601 --> 00:18:46,995 They might be a little embarrassed. 504 00:18:47,082 --> 00:18:50,259 - And more importantly, maybe he is in a relationship still. 505 00:18:50,346 --> 00:18:52,566 - Here's a video of him talking. 506 00:18:52,653 --> 00:18:54,220 She can verify the voice. - Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. 507 00:18:54,307 --> 00:18:56,135 - I really do not feel like going in here 508 00:18:56,222 --> 00:18:58,920 because I can't understand how they gon' mess up the order. 509 00:18:59,007 --> 00:19:01,444 - If it's this guy, she'll recognize his voice right away. 510 00:19:01,531 --> 00:19:03,707 - Right. He's got a sexy, deep voice. 511 00:19:03,794 --> 00:19:05,796 - I think there's a chance it could be this guy. 512 00:19:05,883 --> 00:19:07,798 He lives upstate. He's got kids. 513 00:19:07,885 --> 00:19:09,235 - This is our guy. 514 00:19:09,322 --> 00:19:10,410 - The other thing that we've started doing a lot 515 00:19:10,497 --> 00:19:13,195 since you left is putting people's 516 00:19:13,282 --> 00:19:14,718 phone numbers in Cash App. 517 00:19:14,805 --> 00:19:18,505 They don't usually think about using a secret name 518 00:19:18,592 --> 00:19:19,897 on their Cash App because-- 519 00:19:19,984 --> 00:19:21,595 - They wanna get paid to their real name. 520 00:19:21,682 --> 00:19:24,250 - Yeah, so let's see if anything comes up. 521 00:19:24,337 --> 00:19:26,730 631 [bleep]. 522 00:19:26,817 --> 00:19:29,342 - Look at that, Tarik [bleep]-- - Same full name. 523 00:19:29,429 --> 00:19:30,995 - It's definitely this guy. It's gotta be. 524 00:19:31,082 --> 00:19:33,172 - He's a 42-year-old family man. 525 00:19:33,259 --> 00:19:34,999 He's been telling the truth-- 526 00:19:35,086 --> 00:19:36,349 - But concealing his identity. 527 00:19:36,436 --> 00:19:38,786 - But different pictures and different age. 528 00:19:38,873 --> 00:19:41,441 - And claiming to be out of a relationship. 529 00:19:41,528 --> 00:19:44,139 And name, he said was T. Well, it's actually Tarik. 530 00:19:44,226 --> 00:19:46,185 But this is him. - That's him. We found him. 531 00:19:46,272 --> 00:19:48,143 Piece of cake. - We got our guy. 532 00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:50,928 - She could be his, like, dirty little secret. 533 00:19:51,015 --> 00:19:52,321 - He's definitely kept her a secret. 534 00:19:52,408 --> 00:19:54,410 - What this guy is doing is wrong. 535 00:19:54,497 --> 00:19:57,065 He's lying about being ten years younger. 536 00:19:57,152 --> 00:20:00,024 He may, in fact, have a wife. 537 00:20:00,111 --> 00:20:03,245 And he's leading this sweet young woman on. 538 00:20:03,332 --> 00:20:05,160 - Not cool. - It's nuts. 539 00:20:08,816 --> 00:20:09,773 - I mean, I don't think Zahra is gonna be happy. 540 00:20:09,860 --> 00:20:11,775 He's older. 541 00:20:11,862 --> 00:20:13,037 He's not the guy in the pictures. 542 00:20:13,124 --> 00:20:14,691 - She's gonna be sad. 543 00:20:14,778 --> 00:20:17,738 At least it's a beautiful, snowy day. 544 00:20:17,825 --> 00:20:21,959 [suspenseful music] 545 00:20:22,046 --> 00:20:28,314 ♪ ♪ 546 00:20:28,401 --> 00:20:29,793 - Hello. - Hi, how's it going? 547 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,013 - What's up? 548 00:20:32,100 --> 00:20:33,884 - How are you feeling about everything? 549 00:20:33,971 --> 00:20:37,366 - I'm feeling a little nervous to see what you found. 550 00:20:37,453 --> 00:20:39,586 But I'm ready. 551 00:20:39,673 --> 00:20:41,501 - Okay, we'll show you what we got. 552 00:20:41,588 --> 00:20:43,981 All right, so we have the photos that you sent us. 553 00:20:44,068 --> 00:20:46,680 And we searched them and got nothing. 554 00:20:46,767 --> 00:20:49,248 And that's good, I mean, if the pictures he sends you 555 00:20:49,335 --> 00:20:51,162 are of someone that comes up that is famous, 556 00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:52,816 that would be a bad thing. 557 00:20:52,903 --> 00:20:54,296 But things really got interesting 558 00:20:54,383 --> 00:20:56,951 when we ran T's phone number. 559 00:20:57,038 --> 00:21:01,608 It came back registered to someone named Tarik [bleep]. 560 00:21:01,695 --> 00:21:03,218 That's not a name you've heard before, is it? 561 00:21:03,305 --> 00:21:05,742 - No. - This guy is older. 562 00:21:05,829 --> 00:21:06,830 - This guy is 42. 563 00:21:08,919 --> 00:21:11,052 - Wow, okay. 564 00:21:11,139 --> 00:21:12,445 - So then we thought, let's see if we can find out 565 00:21:12,532 --> 00:21:14,185 something else about Tarik [bleep]. 566 00:21:14,273 --> 00:21:15,361 It's a unique name. 567 00:21:15,448 --> 00:21:16,797 So we looked him up on Facebook, 568 00:21:16,884 --> 00:21:19,278 and when we did that-- - We found a match. 569 00:21:19,365 --> 00:21:22,411 - We found a Tarik [bleep] in Rochester. 570 00:21:22,498 --> 00:21:24,239 - Upstate, which is where he says he's from. 571 00:21:24,326 --> 00:21:25,545 - Right. 572 00:21:25,632 --> 00:21:26,981 - He has social media. 573 00:21:27,068 --> 00:21:30,289 And there are pictures of him with his kids. 574 00:21:30,376 --> 00:21:32,682 - And there's a girl with food. 575 00:21:32,769 --> 00:21:34,902 - Right, he posted it last week. 576 00:21:34,989 --> 00:21:37,383 And it says dinner date night with Deena. 577 00:21:40,168 --> 00:21:42,213 But he did say he was in a relationship. 578 00:21:42,301 --> 00:21:43,563 When did that relationship end? 579 00:21:43,650 --> 00:21:45,173 - A few months ago. 580 00:21:45,260 --> 00:21:46,957 - And that's when you guys got more serious? 581 00:21:47,044 --> 00:21:49,264 - Yeah, that's crazy. 582 00:21:52,702 --> 00:21:55,357 - Let's play the video of him talking. 583 00:21:55,444 --> 00:21:58,926 - Like, I really do not feel like going in here. 584 00:21:59,013 --> 00:22:00,275 They always mess up the order. - Is that his voice? 585 00:22:00,362 --> 00:22:01,711 - And I just--I can't-- 586 00:22:01,798 --> 00:22:02,930 I can't understand how they go-- 587 00:22:03,017 --> 00:22:04,453 - No. - No? 588 00:22:04,540 --> 00:22:05,846 - That's not him. - Really? 589 00:22:05,933 --> 00:22:07,064 - That's not him? 590 00:22:07,151 --> 00:22:08,544 - I don't think so. 591 00:22:08,631 --> 00:22:11,591 He has a heavier accent than that, more like-- 592 00:22:11,678 --> 00:22:13,984 - Like New York? - Like New Yorker, yeah. 593 00:22:14,071 --> 00:22:17,205 - Could it be that this guy is doing, like, a different voice 594 00:22:17,292 --> 00:22:19,120 on the phone with you? - I don't know. 595 00:22:19,207 --> 00:22:20,774 - He could potentially, you know, 596 00:22:20,861 --> 00:22:22,123 make himself sound that way. 597 00:22:22,210 --> 00:22:24,038 We've seen that before. 598 00:22:24,125 --> 00:22:24,995 - Yeah. 599 00:22:27,128 --> 00:22:28,303 I don't know. 600 00:22:30,827 --> 00:22:33,526 - We weren't sure, obviously, having not heard his voice. 601 00:22:33,613 --> 00:22:37,094 But when we went to Cash App, we put in his number. 602 00:22:37,181 --> 00:22:41,838 And look what comes up, Tarik [bleep], same full name again. 603 00:22:41,925 --> 00:22:44,928 I mean, look, all signs point to it being Tarik. 604 00:22:45,015 --> 00:22:48,976 - ♪ Do you ever wonder? ♪ 605 00:22:49,063 --> 00:22:51,065 - What if it were this guy? 606 00:22:51,152 --> 00:22:52,849 - I mean, I don't know. 607 00:22:52,936 --> 00:22:55,939 It's not--it's not really what I was expecting. 608 00:22:56,026 --> 00:22:57,550 I don't know. 609 00:22:57,637 --> 00:23:00,640 - Maybe he started under an alias 610 00:23:00,727 --> 00:23:04,383 because he wanted to keep it hidden. 611 00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:08,387 And then as he grew to have more feelings for you, 612 00:23:08,474 --> 00:23:11,128 he already was stuck inside of the lie. 613 00:23:11,215 --> 00:23:13,174 - I don't know. 614 00:23:13,261 --> 00:23:14,828 I'm just like, who is that man? 615 00:23:14,915 --> 00:23:18,875 - ♪ If only we'd found a lifeline ♪ 616 00:23:18,962 --> 00:23:20,834 - I do think you need to start to accept that, 617 00:23:20,921 --> 00:23:23,053 at the very least, he's not the guy in the pictures. 618 00:23:23,140 --> 00:23:26,840 - Yeah, I understand. 619 00:23:26,927 --> 00:23:30,844 - ♪ We were always hoping to ♪ 620 00:23:30,931 --> 00:23:32,802 - I mean, I just feel like we've been talking for so long, 621 00:23:32,889 --> 00:23:36,240 and I feel like we have such a connection 622 00:23:36,327 --> 00:23:38,591 that some of it has to be real. 623 00:23:38,678 --> 00:23:40,593 - ♪ Slips right through our hands ♪ 624 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,203 - I don't know. 625 00:23:44,901 --> 00:23:45,989 I don't really know what to feel, to be honest. 626 00:23:46,076 --> 00:23:47,338 I don't know. 627 00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:50,907 I'm just, like, kind of lost. 628 00:23:50,994 --> 00:23:53,475 - ♪ Beautiful illusion ♪ 629 00:23:58,001 --> 00:23:59,525 - Now we can figure out what to do. 630 00:23:59,612 --> 00:24:01,875 Because whether it's him or not, 631 00:24:01,962 --> 00:24:04,965 we need to convince T, whoever he is, 632 00:24:05,052 --> 00:24:07,750 to meet up with us 633 00:24:07,837 --> 00:24:09,360 and give him an opportunity to explain himself. 634 00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:11,319 - That's really what I want. 635 00:24:11,406 --> 00:24:14,365 - So are you cool if I reach out on your behalf? 636 00:24:14,453 --> 00:24:16,716 - Yeah, I think that'd be the best thing to do. 637 00:24:16,803 --> 00:24:20,067 - All right, so should we maybe just text him? 638 00:24:20,154 --> 00:24:22,852 "Hey, T, this is gonna sound crazy, but my name is Nev, 639 00:24:22,939 --> 00:24:24,854 "and I'm the guy from the TV show 'Catfish.' 640 00:24:24,941 --> 00:24:27,770 "I'm making an episode right now, and it involves you. 641 00:24:27,857 --> 00:24:30,207 "I'd love to speak with you and give you more info. 642 00:24:30,294 --> 00:24:31,948 Please get back to me ASAP, thanks." 643 00:24:32,035 --> 00:24:34,951 [suspenseful music] 644 00:24:35,038 --> 00:24:39,173 Okay, let's see what he says. 645 00:24:39,260 --> 00:24:41,915 Tomorrow is also Valentine's Day. 646 00:24:42,002 --> 00:24:43,525 Maybe that'll get him to meet you. 647 00:24:43,612 --> 00:24:45,135 - [laughs] [phone dings] 648 00:24:45,222 --> 00:24:46,789 - Oh, he wrote back. Wow. 649 00:24:46,876 --> 00:24:48,182 He said, I'm flattered. 650 00:24:48,269 --> 00:24:50,358 Who is this about? 651 00:24:50,445 --> 00:24:51,707 That's concerning. 652 00:24:51,794 --> 00:24:54,057 "I'm with Zahra. 653 00:24:54,144 --> 00:24:55,537 "We ended up doing some research and found 654 00:24:55,624 --> 00:24:57,104 "some strange inconsistencies regarding your identity, 655 00:24:57,191 --> 00:24:59,541 "and we'd love to give you a chance to clear things up. 656 00:24:59,628 --> 00:25:02,022 "If you care about her as much as you say you do 657 00:25:02,109 --> 00:25:04,851 "and she does for you, I think now is gonna be 658 00:25:04,938 --> 00:25:06,592 "your best chance to come clean about whatever it is 659 00:25:06,679 --> 00:25:09,899 that's been keeping you apart." 660 00:25:09,986 --> 00:25:12,511 - I feel like we talk so much and we're so close 661 00:25:12,598 --> 00:25:15,601 that if someone's reaching out to you on my behalf, 662 00:25:15,688 --> 00:25:17,907 like, shouldn't you jump to it? 663 00:25:17,994 --> 00:25:19,300 - Wait, he just wrote back. 664 00:25:19,387 --> 00:25:21,041 He said, I don't know what you found, 665 00:25:21,128 --> 00:25:24,435 but I do not think that this is a good idea. 666 00:25:24,523 --> 00:25:27,264 Sorry if I led her on. 667 00:25:28,918 --> 00:25:30,093 - What? 668 00:25:30,180 --> 00:25:32,487 - He owes you more than that. 669 00:25:32,574 --> 00:25:35,534 He can't get off that easy. 670 00:25:35,621 --> 00:25:37,144 - I said, I think you owe her more than that. 671 00:25:37,231 --> 00:25:39,712 Is there any chance you'd be able to meet up with us? 672 00:25:42,323 --> 00:25:44,281 - He's trying to back out. - Right. 673 00:25:44,368 --> 00:25:47,154 - It's just like, was this just for fun? 674 00:25:47,241 --> 00:25:49,983 Like, is it not-- do you not care? 675 00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:51,985 - You were in a relationship with her. 676 00:25:52,072 --> 00:25:53,813 - Right. 677 00:25:55,815 --> 00:25:57,164 - He's not responding. 678 00:25:57,251 --> 00:26:00,123 - He's caught, and he doesn't know what to say. 679 00:26:00,210 --> 00:26:02,735 - I think at this point, we have to give him some time 680 00:26:02,822 --> 00:26:07,043 to figure out how and what he wants to say. 681 00:26:07,130 --> 00:26:08,915 So hold tough. 682 00:26:09,002 --> 00:26:10,481 In the morning, we'll regroup. 683 00:26:10,569 --> 00:26:15,182 And hopefully, we'll have some new information. 684 00:26:15,269 --> 00:26:17,924 - Thank you. 685 00:26:18,011 --> 00:26:20,013 - Just hang in there. - All right. 686 00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:23,320 ♪ ♪ 687 00:26:23,407 --> 00:26:24,887 - I feel bad for her. 688 00:26:24,974 --> 00:26:27,281 He's trying to wriggle out of it, right? 689 00:26:27,368 --> 00:26:29,892 We just don't know who's gonna show up tomorrow, 690 00:26:29,979 --> 00:26:32,112 if anyone's gonna show up at all. 691 00:26:32,199 --> 00:26:34,636 - Yeah, there's a very good chance 692 00:26:34,723 --> 00:26:36,638 this guy could totally disappear. 693 00:26:39,293 --> 00:26:41,251 [knock at door] 694 00:26:41,338 --> 00:26:45,516 [dog barking] 695 00:26:45,604 --> 00:26:46,953 Morning. - Good morning. 696 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,258 - Look at this room. It's a disaster. 697 00:26:48,345 --> 00:26:50,478 - Yeah. You know. 698 00:26:50,565 --> 00:26:52,915 - Simon, make your bed. 699 00:26:53,002 --> 00:26:54,700 Do you make the bed, Simon? 700 00:26:54,787 --> 00:26:56,005 I got an update. - Oh, yeah? 701 00:26:56,092 --> 00:26:57,920 - Oh, yeah. - Hit me. 702 00:26:58,007 --> 00:27:01,010 - So I got an urgent text from Zahra this morning. 703 00:27:01,097 --> 00:27:05,449 Apparently, he texted her this morning and said, 704 00:27:05,536 --> 00:27:08,539 I'm driving down. 705 00:27:08,627 --> 00:27:09,889 Should I meet you at your house? 706 00:27:09,976 --> 00:27:11,194 Is it the same address as the place that 707 00:27:11,281 --> 00:27:13,588 I sent DoorDash or whatever? 708 00:27:13,675 --> 00:27:15,503 So I suggested maybe we shouldn't meet there, 709 00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:17,026 because it could be weird. 710 00:27:17,113 --> 00:27:18,811 Why don't we meet at this park? 711 00:27:18,898 --> 00:27:21,552 - So she is texting him back and saying, like, great, 712 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,903 meet me at this park instead. 713 00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:25,731 - All right, he's coming? - Yeah. 714 00:27:25,818 --> 00:27:27,646 I told Zahra we'd meet her downstairs, 715 00:27:27,733 --> 00:27:29,560 so let's get out of here. - All right. 716 00:27:29,648 --> 00:27:30,605 - She should be here. 717 00:27:32,476 --> 00:27:33,826 Hey, Zahra. 718 00:27:33,913 --> 00:27:36,263 Jump in the car and we'll chat quickly. 719 00:27:36,350 --> 00:27:38,047 - Okay. 720 00:27:38,134 --> 00:27:40,484 - Have you heard from him since you told him 721 00:27:40,571 --> 00:27:41,529 to meet us at the park? 722 00:27:41,616 --> 00:27:42,661 - He didn't respond back to that. 723 00:27:42,748 --> 00:27:43,792 - How are you feeling? 724 00:27:43,879 --> 00:27:47,404 If he's not the guy in the pictures, 725 00:27:47,491 --> 00:27:50,190 would you still give him a chance? 726 00:27:50,277 --> 00:27:52,409 - I mean, the way he's acting now, 727 00:27:52,496 --> 00:27:54,107 it's like you don't care about me. 728 00:27:54,194 --> 00:27:56,065 You obviously don't care about me whatsoever. 729 00:27:56,152 --> 00:27:59,547 And it really hurts a lot because I feel like 730 00:27:59,634 --> 00:28:01,375 I've given you so much of myself. 731 00:28:01,462 --> 00:28:03,769 And I'm not moving past that if that's how you treat me. 732 00:28:03,856 --> 00:28:05,640 Because that shows me that you don't care. 733 00:28:05,727 --> 00:28:06,685 - Right. 734 00:28:09,165 --> 00:28:11,777 Has he still not written back? 735 00:28:11,864 --> 00:28:13,604 - So he just wrote back. - He did? 736 00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:15,476 - Okay. - Oh, my God. 737 00:28:15,563 --> 00:28:17,173 So he says, I'm here. - Oh. 738 00:28:17,260 --> 00:28:18,784 All right, well, that's good. 739 00:28:18,871 --> 00:28:20,002 Well, I'm glad he's there waiting for us. 740 00:28:20,089 --> 00:28:22,004 - Yeah. - Not the other way around. 741 00:28:22,091 --> 00:28:25,660 - My heart's just, like, kind of racing. 742 00:28:25,747 --> 00:28:27,662 I feel nervous in my stomach too. 743 00:28:27,749 --> 00:28:30,143 I feel like I just want answers to everything that's going on. 744 00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:31,405 - I can imagine. 745 00:28:31,492 --> 00:28:34,495 [tense music] 746 00:28:34,582 --> 00:28:37,759 ♪ ♪ 747 00:28:37,846 --> 00:28:39,369 - Let's look around. I mean-- 748 00:28:39,456 --> 00:28:41,154 - Okay. 749 00:28:41,241 --> 00:28:46,594 ♪ ♪ 750 00:28:46,681 --> 00:28:47,987 I don't see anybody. 751 00:28:48,074 --> 00:28:51,860 - Well, there's someone down there. 752 00:28:51,947 --> 00:28:53,383 I mean, there's some people sitting over there. 753 00:28:53,470 --> 00:28:54,994 - Okay. 754 00:28:55,081 --> 00:28:56,082 - There's someone at the end of the pier. 755 00:28:56,169 --> 00:28:58,040 I mean, there's definitely some people. 756 00:28:58,127 --> 00:29:00,695 - Yeah, there's people. 757 00:29:00,782 --> 00:29:04,307 - My prime suspect is right there at the end of the pier. 758 00:29:04,394 --> 00:29:07,484 - Possible. - Back to us. 759 00:29:07,571 --> 00:29:09,182 - Do you think that's T? 760 00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:10,400 - I don't know if that's him, but it certainly 761 00:29:10,487 --> 00:29:12,620 looks like it could be. 762 00:29:12,707 --> 00:29:14,491 - I'm ready as I'll ever be. 763 00:29:14,578 --> 00:29:18,017 - All right, you wanna do-- 764 00:29:18,104 --> 00:29:20,019 you wanna go over there? Or should we-- 765 00:29:20,106 --> 00:29:21,324 - Yeah, you go first. 766 00:29:21,411 --> 00:29:23,544 See if it's--see if it's actually him. 767 00:29:23,631 --> 00:29:30,333 ♪ ♪ 768 00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:33,902 - Excuse me. 769 00:29:36,209 --> 00:29:37,384 What's up, man? 770 00:29:37,471 --> 00:29:39,429 T? Is that you? 771 00:29:43,607 --> 00:29:44,565 - Do you wanna go over there? 772 00:29:44,652 --> 00:29:46,480 - Do you wanna go first? 773 00:29:46,567 --> 00:29:47,524 See if it's actually him. - Okay. 774 00:29:47,611 --> 00:29:51,093 [tense music] 775 00:29:51,180 --> 00:29:52,834 ♪ ♪ 776 00:29:52,921 --> 00:29:55,532 Excuse me. 777 00:29:55,619 --> 00:29:58,405 What's up, man? 778 00:29:58,492 --> 00:30:00,929 T, is that you? 779 00:30:01,016 --> 00:30:02,409 Yeah? 780 00:30:02,496 --> 00:30:03,758 Good to meet you. - [laughs] 781 00:30:03,845 --> 00:30:05,020 Good to meet you too. - What's funny? 782 00:30:07,153 --> 00:30:08,676 - He's shaking hands, so I guess that's him? 783 00:30:08,763 --> 00:30:10,330 Doesn't look like T. 784 00:30:10,417 --> 00:30:11,984 - And it's not the guy we thought it was, either. 785 00:30:12,071 --> 00:30:15,117 - Well, we're obviously here with Zahra. 786 00:30:15,204 --> 00:30:16,423 - Yeah. 787 00:30:16,510 --> 00:30:18,468 Yeah. 788 00:30:18,555 --> 00:30:20,253 - As I'm sure you know, she'll be a little surprised. 789 00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:22,342 But I'm gonna give you a chance to explain yourself. 790 00:30:22,429 --> 00:30:27,521 I'm gonna bring her over, and we'll talk this through. 791 00:30:27,608 --> 00:30:28,827 Come on over. 792 00:30:34,006 --> 00:30:35,616 - Who's this? 793 00:30:35,703 --> 00:30:38,967 - T. How are you? 794 00:30:39,054 --> 00:30:40,795 - Oh, my God. 795 00:30:43,189 --> 00:30:44,625 - So you're T? 796 00:30:44,712 --> 00:30:46,322 - Yeah, yeah. 797 00:30:46,409 --> 00:30:48,672 - [groans] 798 00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:50,326 - Tarik? - Just T. T's fine. 799 00:30:50,413 --> 00:30:51,937 But it is Tarik. - It is. 800 00:30:52,024 --> 00:30:54,243 Wait, is your last name [bleep]? 801 00:30:54,330 --> 00:30:55,418 - Yeah. - Weird. 802 00:30:55,505 --> 00:30:57,507 - And you are from upstate? 803 00:30:57,594 --> 00:30:59,292 - Yes. 804 00:30:59,379 --> 00:31:01,294 - Wow, which is wild, because we found a Facebook profile 805 00:31:01,381 --> 00:31:03,209 of another guy named Tarik [bleep] 806 00:31:03,296 --> 00:31:05,254 that also lives in upstate New York. 807 00:31:05,341 --> 00:31:06,865 And that guy is married. 808 00:31:06,952 --> 00:31:08,301 That's just a crazy coincidence? 809 00:31:08,388 --> 00:31:10,042 - That is not me, at all. 810 00:31:10,129 --> 00:31:11,826 Not me. - That's crazy. 811 00:31:11,913 --> 00:31:14,611 - But you have been talking to Zahra this whole time, 812 00:31:14,698 --> 00:31:16,265 using pictures of a younger guy? 813 00:31:16,352 --> 00:31:18,354 - Yeah. 814 00:31:18,441 --> 00:31:20,095 - So when I was calling you daddy, like, 815 00:31:20,182 --> 00:31:22,315 you could be my daddy. Like, actually, like. 816 00:31:22,402 --> 00:31:24,621 - [laughs] No. - You're, like, 50. 817 00:31:24,708 --> 00:31:25,884 - Not really, but okay. 818 00:31:25,971 --> 00:31:27,233 - How old are you? - I'm 40. 819 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,887 - 40? - Yeah. 820 00:31:28,974 --> 00:31:30,062 - Okay, because we saw something that said you're 42-- 821 00:31:30,149 --> 00:31:32,891 - 40 plus. - 40 plus? See? See? 822 00:31:32,978 --> 00:31:34,109 - But I feel like you could have said, 823 00:31:34,196 --> 00:31:36,416 hey, when I jumped on this site, 824 00:31:36,503 --> 00:31:38,331 I didn't wanna use my own pictures because, you know, 825 00:31:38,418 --> 00:31:40,463 it's a fetish thing. 826 00:31:40,550 --> 00:31:44,859 You had as close to a perfect excuse as anyone could. 827 00:31:44,946 --> 00:31:46,992 - But I didn't look at it like that. 828 00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:49,081 - Right. Okay. 829 00:31:49,168 --> 00:31:51,431 So you've told Zahra that you're a dad. 830 00:31:51,518 --> 00:31:53,041 - Yeah. 831 00:31:53,128 --> 00:31:53,737 - And you take care of your kids. 832 00:31:53,824 --> 00:31:55,435 - Always. - Okay. 833 00:31:55,522 --> 00:31:57,567 You say that you travel for work. 834 00:31:57,654 --> 00:31:59,134 - I travel for work. - Warehouses? 835 00:31:59,221 --> 00:32:00,309 - Yeah. - That's for real? 836 00:32:00,396 --> 00:32:02,921 - Yeah. - Were you in a relationship? 837 00:32:03,008 --> 00:32:05,880 - I was. At the time, I was and whatnot. 838 00:32:05,967 --> 00:32:07,969 But that's already dead and gone. 839 00:32:08,056 --> 00:32:10,319 I'm with nobody right now, and we were never exclusive. 840 00:32:10,406 --> 00:32:13,453 But I guess I made her feel like we were. 841 00:32:13,540 --> 00:32:15,324 - Why wasn't it exclusive? 842 00:32:15,411 --> 00:32:17,500 - Well, I didn't think that it was gonna go this far. 843 00:32:17,587 --> 00:32:20,721 I was just up there for entertainment purposes, 844 00:32:20,808 --> 00:32:24,203 didn't think that we was gonna become what we are now. 845 00:32:24,290 --> 00:32:26,335 - You mean, initially, when you got on the feederism site? 846 00:32:26,422 --> 00:32:27,989 - Yeah. When I-- 847 00:32:28,076 --> 00:32:29,817 - You weren't looking for a relationship? 848 00:32:29,904 --> 00:32:31,123 - No, I was just trying to kill some time. 849 00:32:31,210 --> 00:32:33,429 - So I was to kill time, basically? 850 00:32:33,516 --> 00:32:35,388 So I was to kill time? - In the beginning, yes. 851 00:32:35,475 --> 00:32:36,911 She caught my eye. 852 00:32:36,998 --> 00:32:39,174 And one thing led to another. 853 00:32:39,261 --> 00:32:41,176 So that's, you know-- 854 00:32:41,263 --> 00:32:42,961 - We don't know. 855 00:32:43,048 --> 00:32:46,007 How about now? How do you feel about Zahra? 856 00:32:46,094 --> 00:32:47,704 Do you really have feelings for her? 857 00:32:47,791 --> 00:32:49,619 - I think I really do care about her. 858 00:32:49,706 --> 00:32:51,404 My feelings for her are real. 859 00:32:54,798 --> 00:32:57,932 - I don't think so. 860 00:32:58,019 --> 00:32:58,889 I don't get it, 'cause at the end of the day, 861 00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:00,239 if you really was feeling me 862 00:33:00,326 --> 00:33:01,805 the way you said you was feeling me, 863 00:33:01,892 --> 00:33:03,111 I don't understand why it would take this long. 864 00:33:03,198 --> 00:33:04,939 You're not keeping it real with me. 865 00:33:05,026 --> 00:33:06,723 And I feel like I've been so open with you. 866 00:33:06,810 --> 00:33:08,247 I've told you everything that I felt. 867 00:33:08,334 --> 00:33:09,900 And you have the nerve to just be like, 868 00:33:09,988 --> 00:33:12,033 oh, it wasn't even exclusive. 869 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,382 So if it wasn't exclusive, why are you talking about, 870 00:33:13,469 --> 00:33:15,254 oh, we can move in together? 871 00:33:15,341 --> 00:33:16,777 We could be together. 872 00:33:16,864 --> 00:33:17,778 Like, I obviously mean nothing to you. 873 00:33:17,865 --> 00:33:18,866 - I get it. 874 00:33:18,953 --> 00:33:20,085 You have a right to be frustrated. 875 00:33:20,172 --> 00:33:21,521 - I'm not even frustrated with you. 876 00:33:21,608 --> 00:33:23,088 I'm hurt because you're not even 877 00:33:23,175 --> 00:33:24,915 bad looking, the crazy part. 878 00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:27,179 If you came at me correct, 879 00:33:27,266 --> 00:33:29,007 if you came at me on the right tip, I don't discriminate. 880 00:33:29,094 --> 00:33:30,617 Like, I like every flavor. But you-- 881 00:33:30,704 --> 00:33:32,053 - I get it. I get it. 882 00:33:32,140 --> 00:33:34,186 I get it. 883 00:33:34,273 --> 00:33:36,492 - Do you wanna step out for a sec? 884 00:33:36,579 --> 00:33:37,754 - Yeah. 885 00:33:40,409 --> 00:33:41,932 - How are you feeling? - I don't know. 886 00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:44,022 I just feel like you're being sincere now, 887 00:33:44,109 --> 00:33:46,024 but are you just being sincere 888 00:33:46,111 --> 00:33:47,329 because there are people with me? 889 00:33:47,416 --> 00:33:49,244 Or are you being sincere because 890 00:33:49,331 --> 00:33:50,680 you really feel that way? 891 00:33:50,767 --> 00:33:52,030 Because he's not even ugly. 892 00:33:52,117 --> 00:33:54,554 Like, I'm into the whole daddy thing too. 893 00:33:54,641 --> 00:33:56,077 Depends, you just gotta let me know 894 00:33:56,164 --> 00:33:57,948 which kink we're playing out. 895 00:33:58,036 --> 00:34:00,255 - Are you really in a place in your life 896 00:34:00,342 --> 00:34:02,910 where you could be in a real relationship with Zahra? 897 00:34:02,997 --> 00:34:04,564 I mean-- - Yeah, absolutely. 898 00:34:04,651 --> 00:34:06,305 Yeah. 899 00:34:06,392 --> 00:34:07,784 We've been talking for this long. 900 00:34:07,871 --> 00:34:09,612 I've been helping out for this long. 901 00:34:09,699 --> 00:34:12,789 So I would like to if it presented itself. 902 00:34:12,876 --> 00:34:14,356 I mean, you can't forgive certain things. 903 00:34:14,443 --> 00:34:15,662 I get that. 904 00:34:15,749 --> 00:34:17,403 But everything I said was real. 905 00:34:17,490 --> 00:34:19,622 Everything I feel was real. 906 00:34:19,709 --> 00:34:21,972 - I mean, look, I think your text messages between us 907 00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:24,584 and her yesterday were pretty cold. 908 00:34:24,671 --> 00:34:26,368 You were just, like, very matter of fact. 909 00:34:26,455 --> 00:34:27,804 And I think it set her up to feel like, 910 00:34:27,891 --> 00:34:29,197 well, this guy doesn't give a shit. 911 00:34:29,284 --> 00:34:30,764 - Yeah. 912 00:34:30,851 --> 00:34:32,983 - So if you do give a shit, if you have feelings, 913 00:34:33,071 --> 00:34:34,855 now's your chance to, like, make sure she really knows. 914 00:34:34,942 --> 00:34:37,814 - I would like to. I would like it. 915 00:34:37,901 --> 00:34:40,730 - The ball's in your court right now. 916 00:34:40,817 --> 00:34:44,125 You know, you got some of the big questions answered. 917 00:34:44,212 --> 00:34:45,822 - Right. 918 00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:49,087 - And in order to make sure that he's actually for real, 919 00:34:49,174 --> 00:34:53,569 that would require you giving him a shot 920 00:34:53,656 --> 00:34:56,790 to prove to you that he's for real. 921 00:34:56,877 --> 00:35:00,402 And you gotta ask yourself if you're willing to do that. 922 00:35:00,489 --> 00:35:02,274 - Yeah. 923 00:35:02,361 --> 00:35:05,190 [somber music] 924 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,281 - I'm not here to say whether you 925 00:35:09,368 --> 00:35:09,759 should or shouldn't be together. 926 00:35:09,846 --> 00:35:11,413 It's not my place. 927 00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:13,241 But if you have feelings, now's your chance 928 00:35:13,328 --> 00:35:15,591 to make sure she really knows. 929 00:35:15,678 --> 00:35:17,245 Why don't three of us go? 930 00:35:17,332 --> 00:35:19,682 There's a little café down over here. 931 00:35:19,769 --> 00:35:24,209 And then you can make a new second first impression. 932 00:35:24,296 --> 00:35:26,036 - That'll work. - So we'll go. 933 00:35:26,124 --> 00:35:27,255 I'll text you the spot. 934 00:35:27,342 --> 00:35:29,214 And we'll see you in a few minutes. 935 00:35:29,301 --> 00:35:31,651 - All right. - All right. 936 00:35:31,738 --> 00:35:33,305 - I wanna give him the benefit of the doubt, 937 00:35:33,392 --> 00:35:36,917 but it's just a lot of disappointment, you know? 938 00:35:37,004 --> 00:35:38,788 - Right. 939 00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:42,618 [tense music] 940 00:35:42,705 --> 00:35:43,576 - You okay? 941 00:35:43,663 --> 00:35:45,317 - Yeah. 942 00:35:45,404 --> 00:35:46,579 - All right, it is cold out here. 943 00:35:46,666 --> 00:35:48,363 We have a little café we can go sit in, 944 00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:50,278 where he's gonna meet us. 945 00:35:50,365 --> 00:35:53,716 If he's serious, I'd like to see him try to show you that 946 00:35:53,803 --> 00:35:55,762 instead of just saying it. - Right. 947 00:35:55,849 --> 00:35:58,025 - Okay. - All right, let's go. 948 00:36:00,723 --> 00:36:01,942 - Thank you. 949 00:36:04,510 --> 00:36:06,642 - Where are you at? 950 00:36:06,729 --> 00:36:08,253 - I don't know. 951 00:36:08,340 --> 00:36:10,211 I just kind of lost faith in him. 952 00:36:10,298 --> 00:36:14,824 - That's why he's gotta prove himself now. 953 00:36:14,911 --> 00:36:17,958 - All right, let's get in there and find a cozy spot. 954 00:36:18,045 --> 00:36:24,965 ♪ ♪ 955 00:36:25,052 --> 00:36:26,836 - You ready? - Yeah, I'm ready. 956 00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:31,972 He better show up. 957 00:36:34,888 --> 00:36:35,932 - Oh, here he comes. 958 00:36:36,019 --> 00:36:39,458 Oh, boy. - Oh! 959 00:36:39,545 --> 00:36:40,459 - Why, hello there. 960 00:36:43,505 --> 00:36:44,898 - Wow. 961 00:36:44,985 --> 00:36:47,379 Thank you. 962 00:36:47,466 --> 00:36:49,990 I don't really like flowers, but thank you. 963 00:36:50,077 --> 00:36:51,165 - You don't like flowers? 964 00:36:51,252 --> 00:36:53,385 - No. 965 00:36:53,472 --> 00:36:55,169 - It is Valentine's Day. 966 00:36:55,256 --> 00:36:57,215 But I think Zahra is looking for something else. 967 00:36:59,434 --> 00:37:02,481 - Yeah, you are owed an apology 968 00:37:02,568 --> 00:37:04,700 for the fake profile and everything. 969 00:37:04,787 --> 00:37:06,267 I do apologize. 970 00:37:06,354 --> 00:37:08,138 I just let it get out of hand. 971 00:37:08,226 --> 00:37:09,792 And I should have said something before. 972 00:37:09,879 --> 00:37:13,666 And I know I should have, but I just didn't know how. 973 00:37:13,753 --> 00:37:15,581 I do care about you. 974 00:37:15,668 --> 00:37:17,931 And everything that I said was real and genuine. 975 00:37:18,018 --> 00:37:22,022 So I'm the same person, except for the picture. 976 00:37:23,893 --> 00:37:25,678 I mean, you know, and you can tell, 977 00:37:25,765 --> 00:37:26,505 since I've been talking to you, I've been, 978 00:37:26,592 --> 00:37:29,377 like, more calm and more relaxed. 979 00:37:29,464 --> 00:37:32,772 I don't just go around meeting people online, 980 00:37:32,859 --> 00:37:34,426 handing out my numbers. 981 00:37:34,513 --> 00:37:36,950 It's serious to me. 982 00:37:37,037 --> 00:37:41,650 I'm willing to try to make it work if you are. 983 00:37:41,737 --> 00:37:44,131 - Just wanna clarify, are you talking 984 00:37:44,218 --> 00:37:46,394 about transitioning into a more traditional relationship? 985 00:37:46,481 --> 00:37:48,657 Or are you talking about continuing 986 00:37:48,744 --> 00:37:51,138 the sort of feeder/feedee kink? 987 00:37:51,225 --> 00:37:52,487 - No, it'd be different. 988 00:37:52,574 --> 00:37:54,924 We could actually hang out and go out. 989 00:37:55,011 --> 00:37:58,014 But I would love to see you in person, to be honest. 990 00:37:58,101 --> 00:38:00,147 I mean, I don't expect it. 991 00:38:00,234 --> 00:38:02,192 But I would love to-- 992 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,846 I would love to see it. 993 00:38:03,933 --> 00:38:05,587 [laughs] 994 00:38:05,674 --> 00:38:09,548 [soft music] 995 00:38:09,635 --> 00:38:10,940 I'm sorry. 996 00:38:11,027 --> 00:38:12,855 - Well, it's--the ball is in Zahra's court. 997 00:38:12,942 --> 00:38:14,553 How are you feeling? 998 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,337 It's like, sounds good, you know? 999 00:38:16,424 --> 00:38:19,601 He's saying stuff that I wanna hear. 1000 00:38:19,688 --> 00:38:21,908 I mean, you have been there for me emotionally. 1001 00:38:21,995 --> 00:38:24,606 Like, you have been someone that I could talk to. 1002 00:38:24,693 --> 00:38:27,217 So if you really feel that way, I'm open to it. 1003 00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:30,133 I guess time will tell. 1004 00:38:30,220 --> 00:38:33,223 Baby steps, definitely baby steps. 1005 00:38:33,311 --> 00:38:36,444 I have to see how it goes. 1006 00:38:36,531 --> 00:38:37,532 - Great, let's just leave it at that. 1007 00:38:37,619 --> 00:38:40,579 See how it goes. One thing at a time. 1008 00:38:40,666 --> 00:38:41,623 - I would like that. 1009 00:38:41,710 --> 00:38:42,885 - Okay. 1010 00:38:42,972 --> 00:38:45,105 - Okay. We've done our part. 1011 00:38:45,192 --> 00:38:48,848 Everything that happens after that is your initiative. 1012 00:38:48,935 --> 00:38:50,719 - I can make it happen. 1013 00:38:50,806 --> 00:38:53,113 - Okay. 1014 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,070 - Good to meet you. 1015 00:38:54,157 --> 00:38:55,507 Thanks for showing up. 1016 00:38:55,594 --> 00:38:57,247 - Thank you. 1017 00:38:57,335 --> 00:38:58,466 - Bye. 1018 00:38:58,553 --> 00:38:59,989 - See you soon. 1019 00:39:00,076 --> 00:39:03,428 [upbeat music] 1020 00:39:03,515 --> 00:39:04,907 - All right. 1021 00:39:04,994 --> 00:39:07,736 At least it's not an unhappy ending. 1022 00:39:07,823 --> 00:39:10,957 - It's a start. - It's a start. 1023 00:39:11,044 --> 00:39:12,045 - And if he can prove that he's serious-- 1024 00:39:12,132 --> 00:39:14,395 - He does seem nice. 1025 00:39:14,482 --> 00:39:16,528 I feel like I like him. 1026 00:39:16,615 --> 00:39:18,443 I do. I feel like I like him. 1027 00:39:18,530 --> 00:39:20,140 But we're gonna have to see. 1028 00:39:20,227 --> 00:39:25,101 - All right, well, what an episode to have come back to. 1029 00:39:25,188 --> 00:39:26,842 - ♪ Deliver to me ♪ 1030 00:39:26,929 --> 00:39:29,584 ♪ ♪ 1031 00:39:29,671 --> 00:39:30,977 [computer chimes] 1032 00:39:31,064 --> 00:39:33,066 - Hey, what's up? 1033 00:39:33,153 --> 00:39:34,459 - Hey, how's it going? 1034 00:39:34,546 --> 00:39:37,026 - Well, I'm very curious about what transpired 1035 00:39:37,113 --> 00:39:38,506 after I left you and T. 1036 00:39:38,593 --> 00:39:41,466 - So I haven't seen him at all. 1037 00:39:41,553 --> 00:39:43,424 I don't know, after thinking about it, 1038 00:39:43,511 --> 00:39:46,775 I just wanna take a break from T because after we met, 1039 00:39:46,862 --> 00:39:49,256 he just seemed like he had a whole nother, like, 1040 00:39:49,343 --> 00:39:52,390 personality, and it just didn't really feel the same. 1041 00:39:52,477 --> 00:39:53,826 We texted a bit, but I kind of feel like 1042 00:39:53,913 --> 00:39:56,263 he was kind of trying to guilt trip me 1043 00:39:56,350 --> 00:39:57,830 into seeing him again. 1044 00:39:57,917 --> 00:40:00,267 And, you know, he had like, sent me, like, 1045 00:40:00,354 --> 00:40:03,313 a few hundred dollars to say he was sorry or whatever. 1046 00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:04,924 And I was just like, it's okay. 1047 00:40:05,011 --> 00:40:06,708 You don't have to send me anything anymore. 1048 00:40:06,795 --> 00:40:07,622 And I just wanted to keep my distance. 1049 00:40:07,709 --> 00:40:09,494 - Wow, okay. What about the site? 1050 00:40:09,581 --> 00:40:12,235 Are you still doing feederism? 1051 00:40:12,322 --> 00:40:14,847 - No, I kind of took a break from the site altogether. 1052 00:40:14,934 --> 00:40:16,849 I just really just need time to myself. 1053 00:40:16,936 --> 00:40:20,069 So I just wanna do me right now, so. 1054 00:40:20,156 --> 00:40:21,114 - You do you, okay? 1055 00:40:21,201 --> 00:40:22,768 - Okay, all right. 1056 00:40:22,855 --> 00:40:24,334 Bye. - Bye. 1057 00:40:26,511 --> 00:40:27,425 [computer chimes] 1058 00:40:27,512 --> 00:40:29,862 Hey, what's up, dude? 1059 00:40:29,949 --> 00:40:31,907 - Living the life, baby. Living the life. 1060 00:40:31,994 --> 00:40:34,562 - You know, I just got some sort of sad news. 1061 00:40:34,649 --> 00:40:36,434 I spoke to Zahra, and she says you guys 1062 00:40:36,521 --> 00:40:38,348 didn't really keep things going very long. 1063 00:40:38,436 --> 00:40:41,656 - I mean, like, for the first week, we were still good. 1064 00:40:41,743 --> 00:40:44,267 And then it just slowly just died down. 1065 00:40:44,354 --> 00:40:46,008 - That's a bummer. 1066 00:40:46,095 --> 00:40:48,968 Are you still talking to anyone through the feeder site? 1067 00:40:49,055 --> 00:40:51,666 - Nah, I'm just back to work, and that's about it. 1068 00:40:51,753 --> 00:40:53,842 - Well, bummed it didn't work out, 1069 00:40:53,929 --> 00:40:57,411 but, you know, still glad you guys got this cleared up. 1070 00:40:57,498 --> 00:41:00,153 - Yeah, learning lesson for the most part, but we good. 1071 00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:02,590 - All right, well, good luck with everything, dude. 1072 00:41:02,677 --> 00:41:03,983 - All right. I appreciate it. Thank you. 1073 00:41:04,070 --> 00:41:04,940 - Yeah, take care. 1074 00:41:07,856 --> 00:41:09,336 - I met Chantel on a streaming app. 1075 00:41:09,423 --> 00:41:10,903 I really don't open up to a lot of people, but her, 1076 00:41:10,990 --> 00:41:12,513 she gave me that feeling like it's safe. 1077 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,907 - How did she make this profile 1078 00:41:14,994 --> 00:41:17,300 if it makes you verify with a picture? 1079 00:41:17,387 --> 00:41:18,432 - Right. - Whoa. 1080 00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:20,173 Wow. - Are you scared? 1081 00:41:20,260 --> 00:41:21,653 - This is crazy. 1082 00:41:21,740 --> 00:41:22,828 - She's pulling in. 1083 00:41:22,915 --> 00:41:25,047 [tense music]