- ♪ MTV ♪
- LeeAndre meets Russia, and they get very close.
- We talked about having kids.
But that's when she ghosts me for two years.
- Two years?
Oh my God.
Is this who he's talking to?
Something doesn't feel right.
Oh.
Hello.
What's up? - [gasps]
[dramatic musical sting]
- Did they get your order wrong, too?
I got the almond milk.
- That's-- I thought you wanted almond.
- You told them almond milk?
- You are in the same group chat as me.
- You ordered for me and ordered--
- I said, I think almond milk.
- Oh my God. It's your fault.
- That would have been the time for you
to chime in and say no almond.
- Nev-- ugh.
Why don't you just stay out of my business?
- We need to bring in a couples' therapist?
- Not unless they can fix what's in that cup.
[laughter]
All right.
Here's an email, "Urgent!
"She just messaged and I don't know what to do.
"Hey, Nev and Kamie.
"My name is LeeAndre.
"I'm 32, a single dad, and I'm an Uber driver
from Odenton, Maryland."
- My home state, Maryland.
- "Around four years ago, I met a girl named Russia on IMVU."
- Our favorite.
- Oh, that's the thing where you live in a virtual world?
- Yeah.
- ♪ I gave you all I got, got, got ♪
- "She is 26 and lives in Tennessee.
"At the time, she was running an IMVU salon.
"She 'hired me,' and I started cutting hair at her shop.
"Highlight of every day became talking to her
while I was on shift at the salon."
- ♪ On to the sun ♪
♪ We'll burn until our molecules are one ♪
- "We talked a lot on IMVU.
Then eventually, she gave me her number."
- ♪ Gave you all I got, got, got, got, got, got ♪
- "We exchanged pictures, and she looked amazing.
"Soon after, we both decided to become a couple
on IMVU and in real life."
- Mm-hmm.
"We said I love you and made plans to see each other.
Unfortunately, that didn't happen."
- Surprise, surprise.
- "We never ended up meeting, because she ghosted me.
"She came back into my life in 2022.
"And she claims she had things going on
"with some of her family members passing away.
"I certainly understood the trauma of losing someone.
"And so we patched things up
"and tried to give it another shot.
"With ease, we picked things up again stronger than ever.
"We even talked about our future and decided
to get married on IMVU."
♪ Gave you all I got, got, got, got ♪
- "And eventually, in real life too.
But then, a few months ago, she did it again."
- ♪ Where are you be, be, be, be, be, be, be ♪
- "She ghosted me without warning.
"I was really out of sorts after that one.
"And I still am.
"That's why I'm writing to you now.
"She reached out to me again, and I don't know what to do.
"No one has supported me like she does.
"I love her and want to be with her.
"I need your help finding out why we can't link up.
"I hope to hear from you soon.
LeeAndre."
- Story writes itself.
She's not who she says she is, obviously.
Duh.
Her name is not even Russia. - It could be, but--
- It's not. - Probably isn't.
- It's not. - Well--
- We've got to call LeeAndre.
[line trilling]
- Yee-llo, is this LeeAndre?
- Hey, it's Nev and Kamie from your favorite show.
- Why are you talking like that?
- I don't know. I don't know. I just felt like doing it.
Hey, it's Nev.
What's up?
- Hey, LeeAndre.
- We just read your email.
- First of all, you said you live in Maryland.
Is that right?
- Oh. - Oh.
Well, look.
We don't want to interrupt your vacation.
- OK.
Well, if you've got some time, then we
would love to give it a try.
- So why don't we just come meet you?
And we'll see if we can figure it out.
- All right.
We'll see you soon.
- Bye.
- Back to the swamp.
It's a gator. - Oh.
Right.
- ♪ I got the power ♪
- Please remain seated with your seat belt fastened
and all your luggage stowed until the captain
has brought the aircraft to a complete stop at the gate.
- LeeAndre and Russia.
LeeAndre was trying to enjoy a nice vacation.
But of course, who pops up out of nowhere?
It's Russia with love.
- That's the quintessential ex-thing to do.
They see you're happy, you're on vacation,
you're living your best life.
When they see that you've moved on, that's when they pop up.
- ♪ No one can touch my vibe ♪
- OK.
Are you ready to see Andre?
- Yeah.
Were you trying to make a joke?
- Well, his name is LeeAndre.
- Yeah.
Oh. OK.
[doorbell rings] - Hello.
- Hey. - Hey, guys.
- What's up? - Are you LeeAndre?
- Yes. How are you guys?
- What's up, man? - Good.
- All right. You guys want to come on in?
- Please. - Yeah.
- All right.
Meet the family. - Hey.
- Oh. - All the fam.
- Whoa. - This is my sister.
- Hi, I'm Kamie.
- The birthday boy, my son. - Happy Birthday.
- Hey.
What's your name, bud?
- Ke'sean.
- And my mom.
- Hi.
- Deirdre.
- Happy birthday, Ke'sean.
- You did?
- What were we doing?
- That's basically all we do.
- That's all-- that's the only thing we do.
Wait, so family, do you know why we're here?
- Dealing with catfish and his situation.
- You know about that?
- Yeah, a little.
I heard her over the phone.
Sometimes, she would say hi to me when my brother would
come pick me up from work.
But that's all I know.
- I don't know much about her.
But the conversations that we had on the phone,
by her calling me mom, how are you doing,
how are you feeling?
- Wait, you-- you spoke to her?
- I spoke to her. Yes.
- How does she seem?
Is she--
- She seemed nice, as far as what
I can tell over the phone.
- But she calls you Mom when she talks to you?
- Mm-hmm. She was just, "Hi, Mom.
How are you doing?" - Wow.
All right.
Well, why don't you guys have some fun, celebrate?
And we'll hang here with dad, see if we can help him out.
- All righty. - All right.
Great meeting you.
- Nice meeting everyone.
- All right.
Ooh.
- Oh, that's a good picture.
- See you later.
- Aw.
He's so sweet.
- All right, buddy.
See you later, buddy.
- Oh, thank you.
- He's so cute.
- At least I'm good on the dad department.
I don't know about the dating.
- Let's find out.
You're doing a great job with Ke'sean.
- That's seven years of practice.
- He's so sweet.
- Yeah.
- His mom, that's not your last relationship, is it?
- Yeah.
- Were you married? - No.
But you and Ke'sean's -mom were together,
had him, and then split up?
- Mm-hmm. - Are you guys cool?
- Well, she's deceased.
- Oh jeez.
- I'm so sorry.
- What happened?
- She got into an accident and--
yeah.
We just got the call and it was crazy.
I was actually feeding him in his highchair.
- Man, that's awful.
- That's-- that's kind part of the reason why Russia means
a lot to me, because she was there
during that tragic situation.
- ♪ Are we in a dream ♪
- Me playing IMVU was like an escape for me.
Like, it was like an outlet.
- ♪ Gone ♪
- I started meeting people in there, like friends.
Like...
♪ Are we in a dream? ♪
- It was like a chat room.
- ♪ Am I going to wake up just to need another? ♪
- It just gave me hope to keep going.
You know?
- Yeah.
Meeting Russia was like-- it was it for me.
It was like the pinnacle.
- How often was she in the game?
- It was, like, every day, to the point
where we got really close.
- ♪ I wish I wasn't scared to say ♪
♪ The way I feel is not a game ♪
- I never thought I would make a connection like that.
- ♪ Are we in a dream? ♪
- And then she ended up giving me her number.
- ♪ Are we in a dream? ♪
- Text messages at first.
She sent me pictures.
And eventually, it became phone calls.
- ♪ Are we in a dream? ♪
- At the time, I had just lost someone.
And I told her about that.
And she was very concerning about it, caring.
♪ ♪
And from there, like, the feelings
just started pouring in.
Like, I just really, like-- like,
feel like this was the love of my life.
- What's she like?
Tell us about her.
- She's like a fashionista.
She likes to model.
- She says she models in real life?
- That's what she told me.
She says a lot, honestly.
She says she was, like, a music artist at one point.
And then when she told me what she actually does,
she was like, well, "I was in school, cosmetology,
Tuesday through Fridays."
So like, I don't really know what to believe.
- Mm-hmm.
- And did you ever have social media for her?
- No.
Just the IMVU.
So, like, when I would ask her, she would say,
"Well, you don't really need my social media because we talk
on the phone, we have IMVU."
- Sure.
So she might have accounts, but she never shared them.
- Right. She never shared them with me.
I tried to get, like, a FaceTime,
and she would make up excuses.
And she was like, "Well, I just don't
want anybody in my business."
And so that's when she ghosted me out of nowhere.
- How long was she gone?
- She was gone for two years.
- Two years? - Right.
Two years.
- Oh my God.
So how long had you been talking
before she first disappeared?
- A year. - Wow.
OK.
And then how did-- she came back?
- Yeah.
I get messages apologizing and saying why she ghosted me,
and stuff like that.
- What did she say?
- She said she had a lot of deaths in her family.
- That's just strange.
She was there for you through so much.
You would think that she would feel
comfortable enough to say something about what
she's going through.
How did it end up after that?
Like, did you feel like you guys grew closer?
- Yeah.
Much, much more closer.
It felt like we both matured.
So that's kind of why, like, I overlooked it the first time.
- Yeah. - It was really strong.
Like, we talked about having kids.
And we talked about marriage.
The I love yous were coming in hard.
- You're in love with her?
- Yes.
- You are currently in love?
- Yes.
- But wait, how long were you then talking before she then
ghosted you again?
- That happened in February.
- So you two were talking for half a year
before she ghosted you a second time six months ago?
- Yes.
We were talking about linking up.
She was actually supposed to be here on this trip.
- Oh.
- But poof, again.
You know?
And then she texted me again out of the blue.
[tense music]
- So are you excited?
- I am.
But a part of me is like, how is this going to go this time?
- Right.
- Let's see the pictures.
- These are her right here.
- OK.
- Here. - OK.
She looks right about at the right age.
- Mm-hmm.
- Well, that's a very specific tattoo.
Right?
Distinct identifying mark.
Can we read some of these messages?
- Yes.
- Oh, this is when she popped back up.
- The first time.
- She said, "I know you probably hate me,
but I miss ya".
- This was after two years?
- "Please understand I had and still have a lot on my plate.
"And I'm sorry for how I handled things between us.
"And I miss you.
"And if you could ever forgive me,
"ever, I would love to continue things as well.
Just didn't know how you would feel about that with me".
Well, I hope that it's her.
But I do think it's weird that after three years,
you haven't been able to FaceTime.
- Yeah. - All right.
So look, send us her name, her IMVU, whatever you have.
- OK.
- We'll do some searching, which will maybe
answer some questions, or maybe end up raising more questions.
Who knows? - OK.
- All right. - All right.
- Figure this out.
- Thank you for your time.
- See ya.
Good to meet you.
- Good to meet you guys, too.
- Seeing now, kind of, their relationship,
I'm immediately convinced that, like,
she's definitely a catfish.
- Like, the ghosting is weird.
Deaths in the family and-- not to say that it's not possible,
but that's a very catfish thing to do,
- Yeah.
I mean, a lot of red flags.
- But it's so meaningful to him.
Like, I want it to work out for him.
But it's not looking good.
- Are you guys as excited as I am about a cat
cafe investigation? - No.
- She doesn't--
- I don't like cats. - You don't like cats.
- I don't love cats.
I don't hate cats.
They're just-- they have a mind of their own.
I don't know what they're thinking.
- Are you ready?
- No.
I just can't imagine owning an animal that could [bleep] me
up whatever it wants. - Hi.
- Hi.
They can sense fear, I feel.
- Oh.
That's a good boy.
- Can I scratch your butt?
I just don't know.
I just feel like they're planning world domination.
- All right, John.
Hit the lights.
We got to go dark mode.
We got to go stealth mode if we're
going to investigate Russia.
All right.
LeeAndre, 32, has an incredible seven-year-old son,
whose mother sadly passed away.
In dealing with the loss of his child's mother,
LeeAndre finds himself spending some time on IMVU,
meets Russia.
Flirtation turns into a relationship.
And they get very close.
They start talking on the phone.
And then lights out, she ghosts.
- Two years.
- Then, out of nowhere, she comes back.
Six months into round two, they start
talking about meeting up.
Boom, she ghosts him again.
- Mm-hmm.
- She's back.
So LeeAndre is now trying to figure out if he
should keep talking to Russia.
- I think we all know the answer.
- OK.
We got an email here.
LeeAndre says, "Here's everything
"I know about Russia.
Her real name is Russia Smith."
- No, it's not.
- That is a ridiculous name.
- It's not.
- "On IMVU, she was Russia Smith [bleep].
"She's 26 and lives in Hendersonville, Tennessee.
"Here's her phone number and pics attached.
Let me know what you think".
All right.
Let's go to IMVU.
OK.
So there he is.
My IMVU Nev.
- That's amazing.
- All right.
So let's search now.
- Russia Smith. - Let's see.
- Ooh.
- Oh, there she is.
- And she has a picture.
- Oh yeah. Oh.
Look at that.
All right.
So about 26.
786 followers, which, I don't know, seems like a lot.
So she's from Tennessee?
- It says she's offline.
Not much more, I think, we can get from IMVU.
- Hmm.
- Let's try searching the pictures he sent.
Let's just see if we get a hit on this.
- No. - Not her?
Picture number two.
[tense music]
Is that her?
That is her.
What's this?
Oh, look.
Russia Smith.
She has a music page.
This is incredible.
- Nashville, Tennessee.
Does-- she does music. - Oh my God.
That's right.
- She told him that she did music.
- OK.
So that's promising.
Let's just see if we can find any other trace of her online.
- Maybe Russia Smith has to be, like, her stage name.
- There doesn't seem to be any Russia Smith on Facebook,
which is sort of surprising.
All right.
I guess, let's run her number.
- 615-- Nashville.
- Deandrea [bleep], 25.
I think we all kind of assumed her name wasn't Russia Smith.
Guess it could be Deandrea [bleep].
All right.
Let's run the number on BeenVerified.
What do we got?
Deandrea [bleep], 26, lives in Nashville.
- Alias is De'andre [bleep].
- Different last name, though.
Could just be a mistake.
Hmm.
- Russia Smith.
- What [bleep]?
- Gmail.com.
Something just feels weird.
Look up Deandrea [bleep].
- Like, on Facebook?
- Mm-hmm.
- Deandrea [bleep].
I'm not seeing anything for Deandrea [bleep].
What if we put this phone number into Cash App?
- Hmm.
- Is it?
- Deandre, Dirtbike?
- Weird.
So now it's Deandre.
I mean, obviously, there's always
a chance it could be a guy.
- He's talked on the phone with her.
- I mean, it's not impossible.
Just because he talked to her on the phone,
doesn't mean it's not a guy with the ability
to sound like a woman.
I think it is worth looking into this Deandre [bleep]
on Facebook, though, because maybe we'll find something.
- Dirtbike Deandre.
- Oh. - Dirtbike.
- Oh my God.
You're right.
There it is.
Wild.
Who is this?
This guy's name on here is Dirtbike Deandre [bleep]
in Nashville. - Mm-hmm.
- Wait, OK.
Hold on a second.
Is this who he's talking to?
There's no way this person is not somehow connected.
All right.
So what do we know?
We know that there's been an internet presence for someone
named Russia Smith, because we found
her music page with pictures of the same girl
that he's seeing now.
We know there's a connection between Russia
Smith and Deandrea [bleep].
- Right.
- Oddly, the number and the Cash App associated with
Russia also take us to someone named Deandre [bleep],
a different, but somewhat similar name--
- Mm-hmm.
- Who also does live in Nashville.
And there's no sign whatsoever of a Deandrea [bleep] online.
So is it possible Deandre and Deandrea are related?
- Or more.
- First of all, LeeAndre, Deandrea--
if the her name ends up being Deandrea and LeeAndre,
come on, we'll just call them LeeAndrea.
That's easy. - That's their ship name?
- Yeah. This is crazy.
- I don't know what to think now.
- This could get really ugly.
- All right. Here we go.
- Hey. - Hey.
- What's up, guys?
- I love how you open the door like we
might be vacuum salesmen.
[laughter]
[tense music]
- Oof.
- Well.
How's this all feeling for you?
- I'm, like, excited.
But I'm also discouraged, like, a little worried.
I don't know.
I don't know if I want to get let down again.
You know?
- Well, hang in there.
Let's go through what we found and see.
This is what we did.
First thing was, we downloaded the pictures
that you had of her.
And lo and behold, we got a hit.
The photo links to this.
It's a music profile.
And look, Russia Smith, Nashville,
Tennessee, and some music.
Now, has she ever sent you her music?
- No.
- Well, this is good news.
Because she said she used to make music, we found a page,
and it's Russia Smith and it's Nashville.
And it's a picture of her.
But also, why didn't she ever share this with you?
- Right.
- Then, when we searched her phone number,
that came up listed as someone named Deandrea [bleep].
Does that name mean anything to you?
- No.
I never heard of that name.
- OK.
Well, it says here that they are 25
and that they live in Hendersonville, Tennessee.
And that's close, obviously, to what Russia says.
She says she's 26, 25.
OK.
It does provide an address in Nashville,
and then look at this, an email associated with that phone
number, Russia Smith.
Maybe her real name is Deandrea [bleep],
but her stage name is Russia Smith.
Because now we've connected the phone number
to Deandrea, who's the right age and the right town,
with an email of Russia Smith.
Now here's where things get weird and confusing.
So-- - Oh man.
- Buckle up.
- On this page, weirdly, it says aliases Deandre [bleep].
Now, obviously, there's a difference
between Deandre and Deandrea.
And we searched her phone number in Cash App.
OK?
It comes up Deandre, and then the username is Dirtbike.
- That's really-- yeah.
Strange.
The dirt bikes is--
- She's not into dirt bikes, is she?
- Not that I know. - Right.
Well, and even more so, like, why wouldn't
she put her name as Deandrea?
So we looked up Deandre [bleep].
And when we narrowed it down to Deandre [bleep] in Nashville,
we found a profile.
Look at this.
This guy's name on here is Dirtbike Deandre.
So there's a Deandre in Nashville
who has their name on Facebook as Dirtbike Deandre, which
can't be a coincidence that the number that we found
for Deandrea takes us to a Cash App for Deandre,
username Dirtbike.
And then we found a Dirtbike Deandre [bleep].
- It's really weird.
- You don't know this guy, right?
- No. I've never seen him.
- So this is why we're now so confused.
- I'm very confused as well.
This is--
- But you are talking to someone.
And they do sound like a woman.
- Yeah.
They definitely have a female voice.
But I do know, like, people can sound--
you know? - Yeah.
I mean, I think at this point,
we just kind of have to cross our fingers and reach out.
And if she does have feelings and if she
is serious about finally meeting up,
now is her chance to do that.
- Right.
- I think we need to press her.
- I say go for it. - All right.
Let's send a text. Hello, Russia.
"This is Nev, the guy off 'Catfish.'
"I'm here in Orlando with your friend LeeAndre.
"And we're hoping to speak with you
"and find a way to arrange for you guys
"to finally meet up in person.
"Please get back to me ASAP.
Thanks."
♪ ♪
All right.
Well, I don't know if she's going to respond to me, but--
- [gasp] She read it. - Oh my God.
You scared me.
- I wasn't expecting it.
- Oh.
She wrote back.
She said, "I know he's not going
"to be happy when we meet.
I'll do it if that's what he wants, just not here, please."
- Wow. Why wouldn't it be there?
It's crazy.
- What is he not going to be happy about?
- "Whatever it is you're worried about,
"we will do our best to give you
"an opportunity to explain.
"Happy to fly you down
"to Orlando if that's better.
"In order to buy you a ticket,
we will need your real name."
- Mm.
- "Isn't it your job to find out these things?"
Wow.
"Yes, Deandrea, it is."
- Ooh.
She said, "LOL, I'll book my own flight."
You know what?
It's the attitude for me.
- "We will see you tomorrow."
- Does that attitude surprise you or no?
- It's her sassy ways.
Like, she's a diva.
- Well, at least we got her to agree
to meet up with us tomorrow. - Yeah.
- If you hear anything, let us know.
- OK.
All right, guys.
- See ya.
The fact that she decided to revert to sass
is just a little off-putting to me.
- She did really reveal a lot when she said,
"I don't think he's going to be happy with me."
There's something that she's lied about.
- Mm-hmm.
- And that's probably why she's been avoiding him.
- Yeah.
- The biggest question is, does she love him,
or is this just some twisted game?
- Good morning.
Any updates from Miss Russia?
- No.
- I just feel like the energy was
a little [hisses] yesterday.
We got nicer energy from the cats.
- There was some sass in there, for sure.
- Well, maybe LeeAndre has heard from her.
- Let's find out.
[line trills]
- Hey.
- What's up?
How are you doing?
- Well, we feel good.
But not really sure what's going on.
Have you heard anything from Russia?
- OK.
- Right.
Is there anywhere near you that you think would be good?
Like a public, quiet place?
- Yeah.
Just text me the name of the park.
We'll pack our stuff up.
We'll head over there.
I'll text Russia and say, hey, this is where we want to meet.
- And then--
- Great.
- See you soon.
- I really had to just dial myself back for a second.
Somebody texts you, "We looked up flights,"
and your immediate reaction is to send them your address,
where you and your child and your mother and your sister
sleep? "We"?
Oh boy.
Let's go.
Still stuck on the "we."
Is she going to have an accomplice?
Is it going to be a boyfriend or a husband
or a partner of some kind?
And then there's the Deandre of it all.
- Yeah.
The Deandre thing is strange.
Looks like this could be it.
- I see him. - You see him?
- Yeah.
He's on the bench.
- Oh.
OK, cool.
- 'Sup, LeeAndre?
- What's going on, guys?
- Oh.
Well, did she text you that she landed or anything?
- No.
- Do you want to text her and see if she's--
- Here at--
- Yeah. Laughlin--
- Park. - Park.
- How do you feel?
- I'm pretty nervous.
I don't know who "we" stands for.
A little nervous about that.
It's a lot to take in.
- I don't understand why she hasn't
just responded to us, just to let us know she's here.
- Oh, she's responding.
What did she say?
- I can't find that place.
Ubering the house.
- We need to get back to that house then.
Let's go. She's going to be there soon.
And if we're not there--
- She'll just have an excuse to leave.
- Right.
- I'm still confused about the "we."
- When there's more than one person involved,
I tend to take the diabolical route, for sure.
- Should we give your mom a heads-up?
- Yeah.
- Next time, just don't give them your home address.
Pedal to the metal, Nev.
- All right.
Watch out.
I mean, if she got dropped off, I guess
she'd just be standing there.
- Unless Mom's let her in.
[tense music]
Doesn't look like she's here yet.
If she texts and says, sorry, I left--
- Let's be a little stealthy and back into the garage.
♪ ♪
Nice.
Now we can see her coming in.
OK.
Well, she can't be far.
Something doesn't feel right.
She should have beaten us here.
Oh, here's a car.
Oh. Oh.
- Wait.
- Wait a second. - Stopping?
- Yes. It stopped.
Stop. Stop.
♪ ♪
Hi.
Hello.
What's up? - [gasps]
- Where is she?
Oh, here's a car.
Oh.
[tense music]
Oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
- Is it stopping?
- Yes. It stopped.
Stop. Stop.
That's got to be her.
♪ ♪
Hi.
Hello.
- Oh my God.
- Oh my gosh.
[gasp] - Hi.
Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you.
- Lovely.
- Thank you.
- Are you for real?
♪ ♪
- What should we call you?
- Russia.
- Russia?
- Yeah.
- In your text you said "we."
- Oh, I have my manager with me.
- Oh OK.
- Hi. - Hi.
- This is Kamie. - I'm Kamie.
- Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you.
Sorry, I'm-- I'm in shock.
- I see that.
- So is LeeAndre.
- You OK?
- Yeah.
- Can I give you a hug?
- If you want. - Right.
If you want.
I don't want to force it.
- I'm still trying to take this all in,
'cause we ain't FaceTime.
- Yeah, I know.
- Can I just take your bags and set
them down for you, so you don't have to hold them right now?
- Sure, please. Thank you. - Let me just set this down.
- This is, like, crazy right now.
- It's OK.
- Why, like--
- Why like this? Why--
- Yeah.
Like, why does it have to happen like this?
I mean, why did it--
- Well, this is obviously not what I wanted.
But I'm just, like I told you, you know, I'm very busy.
Actually, I have another flight later because
I have to go do a video shoot.
So I'm going to Miami.
- So you had planned on being in Miami--
- Yeah, anyway. - Anyway?
- Uh-huh. Yeah.
- OK.
- I was going to go to Miami anyway.
- Is your name Deandrea?
- It's Deandrea.
- Deandrea. - That's how it's pronounced.
- But you now go by Russia?
- I do.
- Got it. - Right.
- I'm just really confused.
What's up with you guys?
You were talking a lot, then you weren't talking for years.
Then you were talking again.
Then you haven't been talking, then you pop back up.
Like, just what the heck is going on?
- Well, at that time when I ghosted him,
I went through deaths in my family.
And it put me in depression mode.
So that gets-- that kind of sets me back and makes me,
like, just reevaluate my everything, who I'm talking
to, who I'm dealing with.
Not that it was a problem talking to him,
I just was really overwhelmed.
I've lost family member after family
member, close relatives.
I had to step back for myself.
You know what I mean?
- I'm sorry to hear about the deaths in your family.
Hey, Mom.
- Hi.
- Hello.
How are you doing?
- I'm good.
- We're just meeting Russia.
Was there anything you'd like to say to her?
- No.
Y'all can just talk among y'all selves, OK?
- Well, Russia.
I think that the no FaceTiming, the not meeting up
feels, like, very suspicious behavior.
Are you aware that the phone number that you are using now
links to a Cash App for someone named Dirtbike?
- No.
I'm not aware of that.
- Whose name is also Deandre?
- Oh, yes. That's my cousin.
- Oh.
- So I know that person, but I'm not aware of what you just
told me about the Cash App.
Not aware of that at all.
- So is, like, everything you told me true?
Like-- - Yeah.
- But are you open about our relationship?
Because, like, my mom knew about you.
My sister knew about you.
- Yeah, of course.
- Even my son knew about you.
- Yeah.
- Did you feel like you were in a relationship with LeeAndre?
- Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely.
- Do you currently feel like you're
in a relationship with him? - No.
- When was the last time you felt like you guys
were boyfriend and girlfriend?
- A couple of months ago before the conversation about me
wanting to be a Titans cheerleader.
- What is-- what is that?
Because we didn't hear about that.
- Me and LeeAndre had a conversation
about me being a cheerleader.
He didn't really agree with that.
So--
- Yeah, we did have that conversation.
- You don't want her to be a cheerleader?
- It's complicated.
- I mean, If she said she was going to be a stripper--
- Right, that's totally different.
- I could see you maybe not being down with that.
- Unless you think they're the same thing, which they're not.
- I don't know; it was just like--
I just didn't feel like that aligned with,
like, what we both talked about,
like as far as plans, like living together,
you know, starting maybe a possible family, maybe.
I just didn't want to be with somebody that was--
- Right. That--
- Cheerleader.
- That's what broke my heart about it.
- What? - Yeah.
- Why?
- I mean, it's--
- No man ever has said that they don't
want to be with a cheerleader.
- I know, right?
- I mean, but it's like--
I don't know.
Like, I felt like that would take away from, like,
our relationship. Like--
- Her having a job?
- Or too much attention?
- A job is fine, but, like--
- The attention of it?
- It is a lot of male attention,
like, because she's not--
you know, not attractive. Like--
- Sure. - Right.
Yeah, but if she's a music artist, she would
still be getting attention.
- But that's-- that's different.
Like, a cheerleader is different.
- Cheerleading just wasn't--
I guess that wasn't what he wanted in the books for me.
So I didn't like the response.
I acted accordingly.
- OK.
- But then you pop back up. - Yeah.
- Well, I reached out as a friend, not to, you know,
be romantic or lead him on, mislead him,
or anything like that.
It was just, hey, how are you doing?
You know, what's up?
What's been going on?
- I just-- I need a minute.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Come on, LeeAndre.
It's all right. It's all right.
♪ ♪
It's all right.
- It's crazy.
I just-- I need a minute.
[somber music]
♪ ♪
- Come on, LeeAndre.
It's all right. It's all right.
You know I got your back on anything and everything.
I want to see you happy.
I want to see my grandson happy.
You know, you got a son that you got to take care of.
He's your main priority.
But when you get those red flags, just--
just leave it alone.
- Trying to hold back my anger.
- Don't even let it get you.
Don't even let it get you there.
Because you're better than that.
I raised you better than that.
- I'm just having a hard time understanding.
You and he just don't seem like a match to me.
- We tried.
It didn't work.
It's not going to work.
That's fine.
I still love you as a friend, respect you.
But it's not going to work.
- When did you figure that out?
- Actually, after the cheerleading comment.
- What was the comment?
- The comment was, "I don't want to be with you if you're
going to be a cheerleader."
So I moved accordingly.
- Yeah. - Simple.
- I respect that.
- You know?
- So after that conversation happened,
did you tell him, like, OK, well then, this is it?
Or you just took it at face value?
- I just took it as--
as that.
I just knew what I had to do for myself.
- Mm-hmm.
- And it wasn't to continue to see you.
- Right. - Russia.
- Yes, ma'am.
- I know we never met and everything.
We only spoke on the phone.
And you called me Mom and everything.
And I don't know you from a hill of beans, personally.
But you seem like a nice young lady and everything.
And I don't know when things turned bad,
went bad between the two of you.
But I do know he really cared for you.
If y'all can just somehow iron whatever it is.
And, you know, you let him know how you feel.
And he's going to let you know how he feel.
But he really did care about you.
I'm going to tell you that much.
- Absolutely. - OK?
Can I get a hug?
- Yes, you can. - OK.
- Thank you. - You be good.
All right? All right.
Thank you.
Maybe I'll talk to you later, maybe not.
- I'll talk to you later.
- OK?
- So let me just quick-- let me just--
You want to all just sit down inside and like sort of figure
out exactly where things are now
and where they could go or not go?
- Yeah.
- All right.
I think we should sit down. - Yeah.
- And talk. - Let's do that.
- She's down. Yeah.
- Clearly explain things.
- Mm-hmm.
- Let's head on in.
[somber music]
♪ ♪
OK.
- Well, how's everybody feeling?
- I'm all right.
- I'm--
- OK.
Well, now we have a little bit better understanding
of what's going on here, because we are now
understanding that there was a conversation six or so months
ago, where you had expressed interest
in pursuing cheerleading.
- Yes.
- You said that wasn't necessarily a job
that you would love her--
- I just thought she could do better.
- And that's one part of this.
But after that, you kind of felt like, oh, well,
if he doesn't support my interest or my curiosities,
I'm, like, maybe-- - Mm-hmm.
- This isn't a good fit.
But is it fair, though, to say that, like,
you may not have clearly communicated that to him?
- We both just stopped communicating.
What's the problem?
- Well, as a dude, I can sort of understand.
Because there was no very specific clear,
hey, we're not dating anymore, he might have misunderstood
what was going on.
I don't think there's a way to fix that.
It happened.
It, regretfully, didn't end the way I think either of you
would have liked it to.
And there's going to be some hurt and pain and sadness
that, hopefully, will heal.
That's between you and for you to decide moving forward.
- I get your disappointment.
And I get all of that.
And I apologize if I caused you any pain or harm.
- There were definitely some opportunities
where communication could have taken
place that would have made things very clear
on both sides.
Because, yes, of course, we can all say, like,
we're all adults.
Like, if you say something to me that I don't like,
you should know.
- Yeah.
- But you can't just assume.
- You're right.
That could have been communicated way better.
It could have.
- Now, with how both of you are feeling--
- Yeah.
- Towards each other.
- I got the conclusion, clarity, and the closure
that I needed. So--
- I'm not saying I don't like you,
I don't want to be your friend, I never
want to talk to you again. That's not why I came here.
I just came here so you could get an understanding.
- And you're cool being friends?
- I'm absolutely fine with that.
I have no problem with--
- Are you cool being friends?
- I mean, I don't know, man.
It's kind of like a lot of history, like, to be friends.
I think, like, we got to see where it goes.
You know what I'm saying? - Mm-hmm.
- If and when one of you reaches out,
you'll see what happens.
- Right. - Right.
- Are you guys cool? - I'm good.
I'm good. Are you good?
- Yeah, I'm good. - I'm good.
- All right.
Well, you have a car waiting to take you.
- Yes. - All right.
So why don't we walk you out?
- OK.
- And then we'll say goodbye.
And we can all be on our way.
- All right.
- Glad we could sort that out.
- Let's walk you guys out.
- ♪ I don't want to be nobody's baby ♪
- Should I give you a hug?
Good luck on your career. - ♪ Yeah ♪
- Thanks.
Don't get your shirt dirty.
- Oh.
I don't care about the shirt.
- Lovely to meet you. - Lovely to meet you.
- Good to meet you.
- Oh my God.
- I hope you do try out for the cheerleading squad.
- Thanks.
- Bye. - Bye.
- ♪ Need nobody but me ♪
♪ Don't need nobody ♪
♪ Don't ♪
- OK.
There she goes.
Off to catch another flight.
You good?
- How do you feel?
- I got what I needed.
- Best of luck.
Focus on your son.
You got a great kid.
- Good luck.
- Thank you.
- All right.
- Later.
- ♪ Don't need nobody but me ♪
OK.
Well, there's that.
Do you think that they're going to be friends?
I hope they can be friends.
- They're on two completely different vibes.
- Yeah.
Also, LeeAndre, Deandrea, their names are too similar.
- It was never going to work.
- ♪ Don't, don't need nobody but me ♪e on.
[computer chimes]
Hey.
- Hey, what's going on? - What's that?
Is that a little green screen thing behind you?
- Yeah.
I'm into the whole gamer thing.
- Oh OK. So what's up, man?
How you doing? How you been?
- I've been good.
I've been very peaceful, striving for new goals.
I guess I'm just in a better space than I was.
- Specifically, with the whole Russia thing?
- Right.
- So where did you guys leave it?
- We pretty much didn't really say anything to each other
after that.
- So that was it.
After we filmed, you haven't talked to her?
- No.
- Do you miss your relationship with Russia at all?
- Yeah.
I mean, of course you're going to still think
about them from time to time.
But I think I learned some things.
- Like what?
- Well, if somebody doesn't want to make time for you,
then they probably don't want to deal with you.
- Yeah, well, that's good, good lesson.
All right, LeeAndre.
Well, nice to see you.
And take care, bud. - All right.
Thanks, Nev. - All right, later.
- You, too. Bye.
[computer chimes] - Hey!
- [laughs] - What's up, girl?
- How are you? I'm wonderful.
- I like the glasses.
- Yeah, I got glasses.
I knew you was going to say something about that.
- Well, so what's up?
LeeAndre says you guys haven't talked since--
- No.
- How do you feel about how everything kind of played out?
- I'm OK.
You know, it is what it is.
Everybody has an opinion.
And you're entitled to it.
So it's OK.
You know?
And as far as the cheerleading thing goes,
I'm just on to bigger and better things now.
- So no more cheerleading, but still music.
- Still music, very much so.
- OK. I'm so happy to talk to you.
- Yeah.
- That whole situation was weird.
But I think it worked out for the best.
LeeAndre seems like he's in a good place.
And I'm happy we were able to help.
- Well, thank you guys so much for everything.
- Of course. Our pleasure.
- See you soon. - All right, bye.
- Bye.