1 00:00:00,900 --> 00:00:02,802 - ♪ MTV ♪ 2 00:00:02,802 --> 00:00:05,038 - Ceejay and I decided to have a kid. 3 00:00:05,038 --> 00:00:06,406 I had to screen the guys. 4 00:00:06,406 --> 00:00:08,408 She knew when I ovulated. 5 00:00:08,408 --> 00:00:10,410 She would be like, "You need to meet up with him." 6 00:00:10,410 --> 00:00:12,412 And I would be like, "I don't want to meet up with him." 7 00:00:12,412 --> 00:00:14,280 - Honestly, this sounds like a horror movie. 8 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:15,582 - Oh. - Holy [bleep]. 9 00:00:15,582 --> 00:00:17,016 - That's her. - Oh, my God. 10 00:00:17,016 --> 00:00:20,153 This is so creepy. 11 00:00:20,153 --> 00:00:22,122 - Who knows what we're getting ourselves into. 12 00:00:22,122 --> 00:00:23,757 - It's all or nothing. 13 00:00:23,757 --> 00:00:25,291 [dramatic music] 14 00:00:29,129 --> 00:00:31,164 - Ceejay? 15 00:00:31,164 --> 00:00:33,767 [dramatic musical sting] 16 00:00:33,767 --> 00:00:35,268 - All right, welcome back. 17 00:00:35,268 --> 00:00:37,137 We have another special guest cohost, 18 00:00:37,137 --> 00:00:39,873 except this one you probably remember. 19 00:00:39,873 --> 00:00:45,145 In fact, this will be her fifth episode hosting show with me, 20 00:00:45,145 --> 00:00:47,180 and I'm so thrilled she's back. 21 00:00:47,180 --> 00:00:49,182 Tallulah Willis, everyone. 22 00:00:49,182 --> 00:00:52,118 - Hi! - Hey! 23 00:00:52,118 --> 00:00:53,386 - New hair. 24 00:00:53,386 --> 00:00:54,721 - Dude, new hair. - New vibe. 25 00:00:54,721 --> 00:00:56,689 - New vibe, I know. I grew up a little bit. 26 00:00:56,689 --> 00:00:58,358 I was like a little baby. Now I'm a woman. 27 00:00:58,358 --> 00:00:59,793 - We were just reminiscing. 28 00:00:59,793 --> 00:01:02,629 You were definitely in some interesting episodes. 29 00:01:02,629 --> 00:01:03,963 - This is him. 30 00:01:03,963 --> 00:01:05,765 I had no idea how to navigate those. 31 00:01:05,765 --> 00:01:08,735 Obviously, he's into you, but that's not enough. 32 00:01:08,735 --> 00:01:10,003 He needs to be wowing you. - Yeah. 33 00:01:10,003 --> 00:01:11,204 - You did great. 34 00:01:11,204 --> 00:01:12,372 - I was pretty impressed, actually. 35 00:01:12,372 --> 00:01:13,573 - You ready to do it again? 36 00:01:13,573 --> 00:01:15,975 - Super excited. - Let's get to work. 37 00:01:15,975 --> 00:01:17,243 All right. 38 00:01:17,243 --> 00:01:19,078 We got something in the old inbox. 39 00:01:19,078 --> 00:01:22,182 "Hey, Nev and Tallulah. 40 00:01:22,182 --> 00:01:25,251 "My name is Shay. 41 00:01:25,251 --> 00:01:29,022 "I'm 25 years old, and I'm from Pompano Beach, Florida. 42 00:01:29,022 --> 00:01:33,760 Eight years ago, I met a girl on Facebook named Ceejay." 43 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,197 - ♪ Do you remember when we used to have it all? ♪ 44 00:01:37,197 --> 00:01:41,034 ♪ I could not love you more, it was not long ago ♪ 45 00:01:41,034 --> 00:01:43,937 - "This was a whirlwind teenage romance 46 00:01:43,937 --> 00:01:46,706 "that had more ups and downs than a roller coaster. 47 00:01:46,706 --> 00:01:49,409 "I know you help people who are in love. 48 00:01:49,409 --> 00:01:51,744 Well, we were in love." 49 00:01:51,744 --> 00:01:54,080 - ♪ We came to a crossing road ♪ 50 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,682 ♪ And I gave up your hand ♪ 51 00:01:55,682 --> 00:01:59,486 - "So in love that we decided to have a baby together." 52 00:01:59,486 --> 00:02:01,421 So wait a second. - Are they--I'm unclear. 53 00:02:01,421 --> 00:02:02,922 Have they met? - I don't know. 54 00:02:02,922 --> 00:02:04,157 Hold on. 55 00:02:04,157 --> 00:02:06,226 "But it all went downhill from there. 56 00:02:06,226 --> 00:02:09,529 So much bad stuff happened, I had to end it." 57 00:02:09,529 --> 00:02:13,099 - ♪ I had to leave, I had to go ♪ 58 00:02:13,099 --> 00:02:18,204 ♪ Before we both lose all control, oh ♪ 59 00:02:18,204 --> 00:02:20,540 - "But now things have gotten crazier, 60 00:02:20,540 --> 00:02:23,543 "and I owe it to myself to know what happened here. 61 00:02:23,543 --> 00:02:26,079 "There's so much to tell you, but if I wrote it all out, 62 00:02:26,079 --> 00:02:27,447 "it would be a 15-page letter. 63 00:02:27,447 --> 00:02:30,550 "Long story short, she never truly goes away, 64 00:02:30,550 --> 00:02:33,586 "and I'm always looking over my shoulder. 65 00:02:33,586 --> 00:02:36,456 "I need to move on and feel safe. 66 00:02:36,456 --> 00:02:40,426 Please, please, help me. Shay." 67 00:02:41,661 --> 00:02:43,830 Did they have a child together? 68 00:02:43,830 --> 00:02:44,998 - But they've never met. 69 00:02:44,998 --> 00:02:46,533 - I feel like we should just call her. 70 00:02:46,533 --> 00:02:48,167 - Yeah, there's a lot of gaps. - Yeah. 71 00:02:48,167 --> 00:02:49,402 [line trilling] 72 00:02:51,170 --> 00:02:53,006 - Hello, Shay? 73 00:02:53,006 --> 00:02:55,375 - It's Nev, from Catfish. 74 00:02:57,176 --> 00:02:58,211 - I got your email. 75 00:02:58,211 --> 00:02:59,579 I should tell you, Kamie is not 76 00:02:59,579 --> 00:03:01,147 doing this episode with me, 77 00:03:01,147 --> 00:03:04,350 but a fantastic young lady is in her place named Tallulah. 78 00:03:04,350 --> 00:03:05,919 So I'm sitting actually here with Tallulah, 79 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,120 just so you know. 80 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,821 - Hi, nice to meet you. 81 00:03:09,389 --> 00:03:11,591 - I don't know where to start, honestly. 82 00:03:11,591 --> 00:03:14,561 Does it work for you if we come to Pompano Beach, 83 00:03:14,561 --> 00:03:16,462 and get into this, and hopefully figure it out? 84 00:03:18,498 --> 00:03:19,732 - Great. - Fantastic. 85 00:03:19,732 --> 00:03:21,167 - I think we can just fly down there 86 00:03:21,167 --> 00:03:22,936 tomorrow morning and meet up. 87 00:03:22,936 --> 00:03:25,171 - OK, that sounds good. I'll send you guys an address. 88 00:03:25,171 --> 00:03:26,306 - All right, great. 89 00:03:26,306 --> 00:03:27,607 - Perfect. - See you tomorrow, Shay. 90 00:03:27,607 --> 00:03:28,641 - See you tomorrow! - Thank you guys. 91 00:03:28,641 --> 00:03:30,243 - Bye. - Bye. 92 00:03:30,243 --> 00:03:31,511 - Should we pop on down to Pompano? 93 00:03:31,511 --> 00:03:33,846 - Pam-pano, Pampano? 94 00:03:34,347 --> 00:03:36,015 Pampano. - Pompano. 95 00:03:36,015 --> 00:03:37,617 - Pompano. - Yeah. 96 00:03:37,617 --> 00:03:41,120 - ♪ Me and you ♪ 97 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,389 - We made it, Pompano Beach. 98 00:03:43,389 --> 00:03:45,391 So Shay and Ceejay. 99 00:03:45,391 --> 00:03:47,026 Eight years. - Eight years. 100 00:03:47,026 --> 00:03:48,528 There's a baby. - Well-- 101 00:03:48,528 --> 00:03:50,763 - It's a teenage romance. - I don't think there's a baby. 102 00:03:50,763 --> 00:03:54,300 - It sounds like this story is anything but typical. 103 00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:55,401 - Right. 104 00:03:55,401 --> 00:03:56,869 - ♪ Just side by side ♪ 105 00:03:56,869 --> 00:03:58,571 ♪ So they can call us stereo ♪ 106 00:03:58,571 --> 00:04:01,841 - OK, let's do this. 107 00:04:01,841 --> 00:04:03,042 Oh. 108 00:04:03,042 --> 00:04:05,345 both: Hi! - Hey! 109 00:04:05,345 --> 00:04:06,713 - How are you? 110 00:04:06,713 --> 00:04:08,147 - Good, how are you? - Good. 111 00:04:08,147 --> 00:04:09,382 - Shay, Shay, Shay. Go, Shay. 112 00:04:09,382 --> 00:04:11,384 - Nice to meet you guys. - Hi, how are you? 113 00:04:11,384 --> 00:04:13,019 - Thank you guys for coming. 114 00:04:13,019 --> 00:04:15,154 - Of course, yeah. - You guys want to come in? 115 00:04:15,154 --> 00:04:16,489 - Of course, sure. 116 00:04:16,489 --> 00:04:18,558 - OK, come on. 117 00:04:18,558 --> 00:04:21,094 - Shall we? - Yes. 118 00:04:21,094 --> 00:04:23,763 - So give me the whole-- just give me the whole story. 119 00:04:23,763 --> 00:04:25,231 - Timeline. Yeah, we're here, we're here. 120 00:04:25,231 --> 00:04:27,533 - OK, so basically, 121 00:04:27,533 --> 00:04:30,770 I met Ceejay on Facebook in like 2014. 122 00:04:30,770 --> 00:04:32,939 - Yeah, eight years is a long time. 123 00:04:32,939 --> 00:04:34,641 - Yeah. 124 00:04:34,641 --> 00:04:36,643 She was like messaging me a few times 125 00:04:36,643 --> 00:04:38,044 like, "Hey, you're pretty". 126 00:04:38,044 --> 00:04:39,612 And I was like, "Oh, she's really pretty." 127 00:04:39,612 --> 00:04:43,716 Then we moved on to exchanging numbers. 128 00:04:43,716 --> 00:04:46,586 After that, we talked on the phone like the following day 129 00:04:46,586 --> 00:04:47,954 when I was leaving school. 130 00:04:47,954 --> 00:04:49,422 - Oh, so that all went pretty quick. 131 00:04:49,422 --> 00:04:51,290 - Yeah, and we instantly just connected. 132 00:04:51,290 --> 00:04:53,926 [upbeat music] 133 00:04:53,926 --> 00:04:55,294 - Where is she from? 134 00:04:55,294 --> 00:04:56,629 - Georgia. - OK. 135 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:58,464 - So I met her family about three months 136 00:04:58,464 --> 00:04:59,499 into the relationship. 137 00:04:59,499 --> 00:05:01,200 - Online, not in person? 138 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:02,802 - Yes, online. - OK. 139 00:05:02,802 --> 00:05:05,004 I met her mom and her sister, Asia. 140 00:05:05,004 --> 00:05:08,641 And her sister actually was, like, texting me one day 141 00:05:08,641 --> 00:05:11,244 and was like, "If you love Ceejay like you say you do, 142 00:05:11,244 --> 00:05:12,912 you would tat her name on you." 143 00:05:12,912 --> 00:05:17,750 So I ended up tatting her name on my chest. 144 00:05:17,750 --> 00:05:20,253 And then I called her and sent her the picture 145 00:05:20,253 --> 00:05:21,688 while we were on the phone. 146 00:05:21,688 --> 00:05:23,723 And I'm like-- - Hold on. 147 00:05:23,723 --> 00:05:28,695 You tattooed a girl's name on your chest 148 00:05:28,695 --> 00:05:31,931 that you'd never met, never FaceTimed with... 149 00:05:31,931 --> 00:05:33,366 - Mm-hmm. 150 00:05:33,366 --> 00:05:36,035 - And didn't even know it was real? 151 00:05:36,035 --> 00:05:37,437 - Yes. 152 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,874 I was in love with her, you know? 153 00:05:41,874 --> 00:05:43,943 - But why would you even listen to the sister? 154 00:05:43,943 --> 00:05:45,878 - I was worried that, like, she would tell her 155 00:05:45,878 --> 00:05:47,413 all these things and then, you know, 156 00:05:47,413 --> 00:05:48,614 me and her would break up. 157 00:05:48,614 --> 00:05:50,483 - Is it still there? 158 00:05:50,483 --> 00:05:53,453 - Well, I covered it about two years ago. 159 00:05:53,453 --> 00:05:55,121 - Wow. - Yeah. 160 00:05:56,622 --> 00:05:58,491 - Crazy. OK, so keep going. 161 00:05:58,491 --> 00:06:00,793 - Yeah, so still within that first year period, 162 00:06:00,793 --> 00:06:03,763 she sent a ring and asked me to marry her. 163 00:06:03,763 --> 00:06:06,232 - And let me guess, you say yes. 164 00:06:06,232 --> 00:06:08,768 - Yes. 165 00:06:08,768 --> 00:06:10,837 Like, I wore it like I was engaged. 166 00:06:10,837 --> 00:06:12,772 - And you told your friends and family? 167 00:06:12,772 --> 00:06:15,074 - Mm-hmm. - That's insane. 168 00:06:15,074 --> 00:06:16,375 - I know. 169 00:06:16,375 --> 00:06:17,810 - And you've never videochatted? 170 00:06:17,810 --> 00:06:19,412 - We tried to videochat a few times, 171 00:06:19,412 --> 00:06:21,180 but she would have excuses. 172 00:06:21,180 --> 00:06:24,684 Like her phone was broke or her front camera was broke. 173 00:06:24,684 --> 00:06:26,018 - Ding, ding, ding. - She couldn't see me. 174 00:06:26,018 --> 00:06:28,554 - But you're still excited because this woman 175 00:06:28,554 --> 00:06:31,991 seems great and seems to really love you and she's beautiful? 176 00:06:31,991 --> 00:06:34,894 - Yes. We started making huge plans. 177 00:06:34,894 --> 00:06:37,797 Almost a year in, we decided to have a kid. 178 00:06:37,797 --> 00:06:39,665 - So what was the plan? 179 00:06:39,665 --> 00:06:41,801 - I had to, like, basically screen the guys. 180 00:06:41,801 --> 00:06:44,437 Like, one guy I met, I sent her a picture of me and him. 181 00:06:44,437 --> 00:06:46,372 And she would give approval. 182 00:06:46,372 --> 00:06:50,076 - So this isn't like the online database for sperm donors. 183 00:06:50,076 --> 00:06:52,011 This is live human man. 184 00:06:52,011 --> 00:06:53,913 - She kept pushing the issue like, 185 00:06:53,913 --> 00:06:56,215 "Oh, you know, you need to meet up with him," 186 00:06:56,215 --> 00:06:58,818 and I would be like, "I don't want to meet up with him." 187 00:06:58,818 --> 00:06:59,752 - Wow. 188 00:06:59,752 --> 00:07:02,522 - She knew when I ovulated. 189 00:07:02,522 --> 00:07:06,692 She actually had a tracker on her phone. 190 00:07:06,692 --> 00:07:07,994 She would be like, "You need to go now 191 00:07:07,994 --> 00:07:10,263 because you're high in that fertility range." 192 00:07:10,263 --> 00:07:13,566 - This is [bleep] creepy. 193 00:07:13,566 --> 00:07:15,101 Did you talk to this guy and say, 194 00:07:15,101 --> 00:07:16,669 "Hey, I just want to let you know..." 195 00:07:16,669 --> 00:07:19,071 - This is the situation. - "I've got a girlfriend." 196 00:07:19,071 --> 00:07:22,008 - I told him what the plan was, that I had a girlfriend, 197 00:07:22,008 --> 00:07:23,509 and we were trying to plan a kid. 198 00:07:23,509 --> 00:07:24,877 - OK. 199 00:07:24,877 --> 00:07:27,380 - So I met this one guy. We started hanging out. 200 00:07:27,380 --> 00:07:29,182 But because at that time, 201 00:07:29,182 --> 00:07:31,751 me and Ceejay weren't on good terms, 202 00:07:31,751 --> 00:07:35,321 she was like verbally abusive and mentally draining. 203 00:07:35,321 --> 00:07:39,659 So I kind of got romantically involved with him 204 00:07:39,659 --> 00:07:41,994 in the breaks of me and her. 205 00:07:41,994 --> 00:07:44,897 - So you actually developed feelings for him... 206 00:07:44,897 --> 00:07:46,432 - Mm-hmm. 207 00:07:46,432 --> 00:07:47,967 - Even though he initially started just as a potential-- 208 00:07:47,967 --> 00:07:49,502 - Sperm man. - Sperm donor. 209 00:07:49,502 --> 00:07:50,803 - Pretty much. 210 00:07:50,803 --> 00:07:52,305 But then I still ended up getting pregnant. 211 00:07:52,305 --> 00:07:53,673 - Wow. 212 00:07:53,673 --> 00:07:56,442 - And then we basically didn't 213 00:07:56,442 --> 00:07:57,844 have a good relationship from there. 214 00:07:57,844 --> 00:07:59,879 He ended up leaving. 215 00:07:59,879 --> 00:08:02,782 And then Ceejay did step up and start sending me 216 00:08:02,782 --> 00:08:04,016 things for the baby. 217 00:08:04,016 --> 00:08:05,284 - Like what? 218 00:08:05,284 --> 00:08:07,987 - She sent me a car seat, baby bag, clothes. 219 00:08:07,987 --> 00:08:09,722 - All right, so that's kind of nice. 220 00:08:09,722 --> 00:08:11,958 - Yeah, but there's time about three months 221 00:08:11,958 --> 00:08:13,793 into the relationship when I was the one 222 00:08:13,793 --> 00:08:16,462 that was there for her when she needed money. 223 00:08:16,462 --> 00:08:17,964 - You sent her money? - Yeah. 224 00:08:17,964 --> 00:08:20,266 At one point at time, I gave her my card. 225 00:08:20,266 --> 00:08:22,735 So she'll be like, "Oh, I'm ordering pizza." 226 00:08:22,735 --> 00:08:25,104 - What? Your bank card? 227 00:08:25,104 --> 00:08:26,706 - Yeah. 228 00:08:26,706 --> 00:08:28,808 And one day I went to the store, 229 00:08:28,808 --> 00:08:30,209 and my card declined. 230 00:08:30,209 --> 00:08:32,879 I had $0. 231 00:08:33,813 --> 00:08:36,082 And then when I called her and asked her about it, 232 00:08:36,082 --> 00:08:38,484 she said it was her sister, Asia, 233 00:08:38,484 --> 00:08:40,319 and that she was gonna handle it. 234 00:08:40,319 --> 00:08:42,255 And I guess her and Asia apparently got into a fight. 235 00:08:42,255 --> 00:08:43,956 - So she's never paid you back, I presume? 236 00:08:43,956 --> 00:08:45,825 - Mm-mm. 237 00:08:45,825 --> 00:08:49,262 - OK, so fast forward and you have this baby. 238 00:08:49,262 --> 00:08:51,097 - And me and her were still on and off. 239 00:08:51,097 --> 00:08:53,099 You know, we wouldn't talk for like three or four months, 240 00:08:53,099 --> 00:08:55,134 and then she'll pop back out of the blue. 241 00:08:55,134 --> 00:08:57,870 But then I told her I was pregnant again. 242 00:08:57,870 --> 00:08:59,906 - Wait a second. How did that happen? 243 00:08:59,906 --> 00:09:01,407 - My--I guess you could say boyfriend, 244 00:09:01,407 --> 00:09:04,310 we ended up, like, getting back romantically involved. 245 00:09:04,310 --> 00:09:06,212 - So you got back together with your baby daddy. 246 00:09:06,212 --> 00:09:09,048 - Yes. And then Ceejay, she was upset. 247 00:09:09,048 --> 00:09:12,051 And when she's hurt, she tends to say hurtful things 248 00:09:12,051 --> 00:09:14,353 to me, like tell me she hates me, 249 00:09:14,353 --> 00:09:16,822 call me names, threaten me. 250 00:09:16,822 --> 00:09:19,892 And after that, I completely cut her off. 251 00:09:19,892 --> 00:09:22,361 But once I cut her off, she stalked me 252 00:09:22,361 --> 00:09:24,597 for like over a year. 253 00:09:24,597 --> 00:09:25,865 - What does that mean? 254 00:09:25,865 --> 00:09:27,233 - Like, for example, I had a PoF, 255 00:09:27,233 --> 00:09:30,069 and someone wrote me on PoF named Brit. 256 00:09:30,069 --> 00:09:32,071 And then out of the blue, Ceejay wrote me 257 00:09:32,071 --> 00:09:35,374 on Brit's page and was like, I had her reach out to you 258 00:09:35,374 --> 00:09:36,609 because I couldn't contact you. 259 00:09:36,609 --> 00:09:38,177 - OK, crazy. 260 00:09:38,177 --> 00:09:41,113 - There was always, some way, somehow contacting me. 261 00:09:41,113 --> 00:09:43,616 It has affected me in like a lot of ways. 262 00:09:43,616 --> 00:09:47,553 I'm afraid to date online because it was multiple people. 263 00:09:47,553 --> 00:09:49,021 - Oh, my God. 264 00:09:49,021 --> 00:09:51,991 - And then I got a message on IG a few weeks ago 265 00:09:51,991 --> 00:09:55,227 of her saying, like, "Hey, I know it's been a few years, 266 00:09:55,227 --> 00:09:56,796 but I want to meet you." 267 00:09:56,796 --> 00:09:59,198 - So after all these years, that's why you emailed us now? 268 00:09:59,198 --> 00:10:00,800 - That's when you reached out to "Catfish." 269 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,001 - Yeah. - I'm glad you did. 270 00:10:02,001 --> 00:10:03,703 This could be dangerous without us. 271 00:10:03,703 --> 00:10:05,338 Can we see a picture of-- - Yeah. 272 00:10:05,338 --> 00:10:09,942 - Ceejay? - So these are like a few pics. 273 00:10:09,942 --> 00:10:12,144 - OK, well she's very pretty. 274 00:10:12,144 --> 00:10:14,146 What does it say on her chest? 275 00:10:14,146 --> 00:10:15,281 - Nique. 276 00:10:15,281 --> 00:10:17,016 She told me that was her mom's name. 277 00:10:17,016 --> 00:10:18,351 - OK. 278 00:10:18,351 --> 00:10:19,685 Wow, OK. 279 00:10:19,685 --> 00:10:21,520 Well, you know, I can understand, obviously, 280 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,956 as a 16-year-old seeing pictures of that woman 281 00:10:23,956 --> 00:10:25,858 and being, like, into her. 282 00:10:25,858 --> 00:10:28,394 All right, look, this is a lot. - Yes, it is. 283 00:10:28,394 --> 00:10:31,464 - Honestly, this sounds like a horror movie. 284 00:10:31,464 --> 00:10:32,932 - Yeah. 285 00:10:32,932 --> 00:10:34,667 - I'm just so glad that you ended up on "Catfish" 286 00:10:34,667 --> 00:10:36,635 and not like, "Cold Case." 287 00:10:36,635 --> 00:10:38,471 This is some creepy [bleep]. 288 00:10:38,471 --> 00:10:39,772 - Yeah. 289 00:10:39,772 --> 00:10:41,173 - What information do you have for her now? 290 00:10:41,173 --> 00:10:42,842 - The Instagram and then, like, the old pictures 291 00:10:42,842 --> 00:10:44,377 that I showed you guys. 292 00:10:44,377 --> 00:10:46,112 - So you don't have any of her phone numbers that you-- 293 00:10:46,112 --> 00:10:47,880 - Mm-mm. - OK, so us the pictures. 294 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,416 Send us this new Instagram that she hit you up from 295 00:10:50,416 --> 00:10:51,350 and whatever else you have. 296 00:10:51,350 --> 00:10:52,585 - OK, certainly. 297 00:10:52,585 --> 00:10:53,886 - And we'll do some research tomorrow. 298 00:10:53,886 --> 00:10:55,421 We'll see what, if anything, we can find, 299 00:10:55,421 --> 00:10:56,622 which might be tricky. 300 00:10:56,622 --> 00:10:58,624 - OK. Thank you guys for coming. 301 00:10:58,624 --> 00:11:00,159 - It's nice to meet you. - Oh, thank you. 302 00:11:00,159 --> 00:11:02,094 - Hopefully, we'll have some information for you. 303 00:11:02,094 --> 00:11:03,696 - Thank you, Nev. I appreciate it. 304 00:11:03,696 --> 00:11:06,732 Have a good night, guys. Thank you. 305 00:11:06,732 --> 00:11:10,436 - Oh, my God. - Oh, my God! 306 00:11:10,436 --> 00:11:13,339 This is dark. - That was hard to listen to. 307 00:11:13,339 --> 00:11:16,042 - The fact that she got bullied into-- 308 00:11:16,042 --> 00:11:17,476 - Have a baby. - Get pregnant. 309 00:11:17,476 --> 00:11:20,146 I'm genuinely concerned about getting 310 00:11:20,146 --> 00:11:21,547 involved with this person. 311 00:11:21,547 --> 00:11:24,216 This could be the darkest catfish 312 00:11:24,216 --> 00:11:25,851 we've ever had on the show. 313 00:11:28,638 --> 00:11:31,808 [upbeat music] 314 00:11:31,808 --> 00:11:33,576 - Let's do it. - Shall we? 315 00:11:33,576 --> 00:11:35,678 - Thank you. 316 00:11:35,678 --> 00:11:37,347 - Hello, you guys. 317 00:11:37,347 --> 00:11:38,515 - Hi! 318 00:11:38,515 --> 00:11:41,251 This place is so cute. 319 00:11:41,251 --> 00:11:43,520 - What a set, huh? 320 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:44,654 - Minimalist. 321 00:11:44,654 --> 00:11:47,457 So I like that. [laughs] 322 00:11:47,457 --> 00:11:50,960 - OK, eight years ago, Shay and Ceejay 323 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,163 really gets serious quickly. 324 00:11:53,163 --> 00:11:55,331 There was so much happening in that first year or two. 325 00:11:55,331 --> 00:11:57,433 She was engaged to this girl, she got a ring, 326 00:11:57,433 --> 00:11:59,669 she got her name tattooed on her chest. 327 00:11:59,669 --> 00:12:01,204 Ceejay convinced Shay 328 00:12:01,204 --> 00:12:02,972 that they should have a child together 329 00:12:02,972 --> 00:12:05,008 and Shay did. 330 00:12:05,008 --> 00:12:08,611 She found a guy, was having sex based on the-- 331 00:12:08,611 --> 00:12:10,046 - Direction. 332 00:12:10,046 --> 00:12:11,948 - Direction of Ceejay, who knew her period chart. 333 00:12:11,948 --> 00:12:13,416 - Oh, my God. 334 00:12:13,416 --> 00:12:15,451 - It slowed down. They sort of stopped talking. 335 00:12:15,451 --> 00:12:18,188 But Shay got pregnant with the sperm donor 336 00:12:18,188 --> 00:12:20,156 and had a relationship with him. 337 00:12:20,156 --> 00:12:24,160 But Ceejay is very good at manipulating Shay's feelings. 338 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,328 - Yeah. 339 00:12:25,328 --> 00:12:26,930 - And the abusive behavior hasn't stopped. 340 00:12:26,930 --> 00:12:29,866 Ceejay still is around-- whether it's 341 00:12:29,866 --> 00:12:32,135 through some sneaky Plenty of Fish account 342 00:12:32,135 --> 00:12:33,570 or her new Instagram. 343 00:12:33,570 --> 00:12:34,837 She's not gone away. 344 00:12:34,837 --> 00:12:36,472 And now she wants to meet Shay, 345 00:12:36,472 --> 00:12:38,441 which could be dangerous without our help. 346 00:12:38,441 --> 00:12:39,809 - Right. 347 00:12:39,809 --> 00:12:41,344 There is so much psychological abuse happening 348 00:12:41,344 --> 00:12:43,513 to someone who was so vulnerable. 349 00:12:43,513 --> 00:12:47,951 - Yeah, we need Shay to be able to fully move on 350 00:12:47,951 --> 00:12:49,452 and away from Ceejay. 351 00:12:49,452 --> 00:12:50,687 - Yeah. 352 00:12:50,687 --> 00:12:52,055 - Here's our email from Shay. OK. 353 00:12:52,055 --> 00:12:53,489 "Hi, Nev and Tallulah. 354 00:12:53,489 --> 00:12:55,258 "Here's all the recent info I have for Ceejay, 355 00:12:55,258 --> 00:12:57,093 "and also some details I remember. 356 00:12:57,093 --> 00:12:59,729 "Ceejay's full name is Cyannah Samuel. 357 00:12:59,729 --> 00:13:01,664 She should be around 29 or 30." 358 00:13:01,664 --> 00:13:03,199 OK. 359 00:13:03,199 --> 00:13:05,168 "She said she was from New York but living in Georgia. 360 00:13:05,168 --> 00:13:07,437 "I tried to find the address I had for her but I couldn't. 361 00:13:07,437 --> 00:13:09,672 "I do remember sending a package to her 362 00:13:09,672 --> 00:13:11,774 in [bleep]town, Georgia." 363 00:13:11,774 --> 00:13:13,176 OK, so that's something. 364 00:13:13,176 --> 00:13:15,211 "The Instagram she recently reached out to me was--" 365 00:13:15,211 --> 00:13:17,480 oh, Ceejay Samuel, interesting. 366 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,983 "Ceejay introduced me to a bunch of family members. 367 00:13:19,983 --> 00:13:22,352 "Her mom used to text me quite a lot. 368 00:13:22,352 --> 00:13:24,187 "Her name was Dominique. 369 00:13:24,187 --> 00:13:27,790 The 'Nique' tattoo on Ceejay's chest was for her." 370 00:13:27,790 --> 00:13:29,092 - Right. - "I'm attaching pics. 371 00:13:29,092 --> 00:13:30,293 "I hope this is enough information 372 00:13:30,293 --> 00:13:31,828 "for you to find some answers. 373 00:13:31,828 --> 00:13:33,396 Thanks again, Shay." 374 00:13:33,396 --> 00:13:35,531 Let's run a picture of this girl. 375 00:13:35,531 --> 00:13:38,301 I have a feeling it's gonna come back quickly. 376 00:13:38,301 --> 00:13:40,436 There she is. That's definitely the tattoo. 377 00:13:40,436 --> 00:13:42,572 - Yeah, definitely the girl. - That's definitely her. 378 00:13:42,572 --> 00:13:45,141 Let's see. What is this? 379 00:13:45,141 --> 00:13:47,277 So this is a hair account. - Yeah. 380 00:13:47,277 --> 00:13:49,279 "Nique So Fine came through last night for a cut." 381 00:13:49,279 --> 00:13:50,747 So this-- - That person-- 382 00:13:50,747 --> 00:13:54,050 - Girl's Instagram account is Nique So Fine and not-- 383 00:13:54,050 --> 00:13:55,351 both: Ceejay Samuels. 384 00:13:55,351 --> 00:13:57,086 - Right. Let's check out her page. 385 00:13:57,086 --> 00:13:58,488 Oh. - Holy [bleep]. 386 00:13:58,488 --> 00:13:59,689 - That's her. 387 00:13:59,689 --> 00:14:01,557 OK, so... - Riverdale, Georgia. 388 00:14:01,557 --> 00:14:03,593 Born in 1992. 389 00:14:03,593 --> 00:14:05,161 - She's 30. - 30. 390 00:14:05,161 --> 00:14:08,331 Alise Dominique. - Oh, [bleep]. 391 00:14:08,331 --> 00:14:10,733 - OK, so we've now confirmed the girl in the picture's name 392 00:14:10,733 --> 00:14:13,403 is Alise Dominique Corbal. 393 00:14:13,403 --> 00:14:15,471 - There's an OnlyFans. - Oh, really? 394 00:14:15,471 --> 00:14:17,340 I'll just open OnlyFans on my phone. 395 00:14:17,340 --> 00:14:18,775 - I've never been on OnlyFans before. 396 00:14:18,775 --> 00:14:20,076 - Really? - Yeah. 397 00:14:20,076 --> 00:14:22,412 - Oh, yeah. - Last seen yesterday. 398 00:14:22,412 --> 00:14:24,380 - Wow. So this is very active. 399 00:14:24,380 --> 00:14:26,249 If Dominique's her middle name, she goes by Nique, 400 00:14:26,249 --> 00:14:28,251 that means that Ceejay convinced her to get 401 00:14:28,251 --> 00:14:29,752 a tattoo on her chest of-- 402 00:14:29,752 --> 00:14:31,321 - A name that's not even-- 403 00:14:31,321 --> 00:14:32,455 oh, my God. 404 00:14:32,455 --> 00:14:34,524 - I mean, that's-- - Diabolical. 405 00:14:34,524 --> 00:14:37,293 That's so [bleep] up. That's like a fake name. 406 00:14:37,293 --> 00:14:39,729 - Yeah, I mean, she was gonna have a baby with this person 407 00:14:39,729 --> 00:14:41,864 who was totally lying to her. 408 00:14:41,864 --> 00:14:43,599 - Have we looked at the Instagram 409 00:14:43,599 --> 00:14:45,735 that she just reached out to Shay on? 410 00:14:45,735 --> 00:14:48,371 - Oh. Let's go to that. 411 00:14:48,371 --> 00:14:52,241 OK, so--OK, so this page has like very little on it. 412 00:14:52,241 --> 00:14:53,976 - Yeah. - Oh, look. 413 00:14:53,976 --> 00:14:56,145 "We was so in love," she said. 414 00:14:56,145 --> 00:14:58,014 - There's more photos. 415 00:14:58,014 --> 00:14:59,549 - But these are old. 416 00:14:59,549 --> 00:15:01,684 OK, all of these pictures were posted on the same day. 417 00:15:01,684 --> 00:15:04,787 So she's posting all the old pictures and texts 418 00:15:04,787 --> 00:15:07,490 that they had sent each other from when they were talking. 419 00:15:07,490 --> 00:15:09,792 So this is like, a weird, like, memory lane-- 420 00:15:09,792 --> 00:15:11,227 - Memory lane photo album. 421 00:15:11,227 --> 00:15:13,429 - Weird that she's still posting these things. 422 00:15:13,429 --> 00:15:14,731 OK, wait. 423 00:15:14,731 --> 00:15:17,467 This has only one follower. 424 00:15:17,467 --> 00:15:20,903 Who's this one person that would even be on her page? 425 00:15:20,903 --> 00:15:22,405 - April [bleep]. 426 00:15:22,405 --> 00:15:25,975 - Who is she? Why is she on this page? 427 00:15:25,975 --> 00:15:28,111 Like, why would this middle-aged woman 428 00:15:28,111 --> 00:15:29,812 be on this page? 429 00:15:29,812 --> 00:15:32,281 - Oh, this is so rough. 430 00:15:32,281 --> 00:15:34,250 - She made this account-- - Oh, my God. 431 00:15:34,250 --> 00:15:36,285 - It has to be her. 432 00:15:36,285 --> 00:15:37,920 Who is this? We got to look her up. 433 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,889 - We got to look her up. Oh, my God. 434 00:15:39,889 --> 00:15:42,325 - Is this-- - This is so creepy. 435 00:15:42,325 --> 00:15:44,394 - Ceejay? - Georgia. 436 00:15:44,394 --> 00:15:47,330 - OK. Married since 2001. 437 00:15:47,330 --> 00:15:48,931 This does feel like a real page. 438 00:15:48,931 --> 00:15:52,902 She's got her husband, looks like they may have a son. 439 00:15:52,902 --> 00:15:55,805 I mean, is this Ceejay? 440 00:15:55,805 --> 00:15:57,573 This is giving me 441 00:15:57,573 --> 00:16:00,710 weird original "Catfish" documentary vibes. 442 00:16:00,710 --> 00:16:02,311 - Yeah. 443 00:16:02,311 --> 00:16:04,580 - Because the woman who was talking to me pretending to be 444 00:16:04,580 --> 00:16:07,283 a much younger girl and a number of other people, 445 00:16:07,283 --> 00:16:10,853 was also married and also cared for children. 446 00:16:10,853 --> 00:16:13,990 And I'm just seeing this woman's life, and it's-- 447 00:16:13,990 --> 00:16:16,125 - Yeah. So then what's the move? 448 00:16:16,125 --> 00:16:17,794 Do you message her, or do you try 449 00:16:17,794 --> 00:16:19,128 to find someone who knows her? 450 00:16:19,128 --> 00:16:20,830 - We could message her and-- 451 00:16:20,830 --> 00:16:22,265 - Just kind of get a temp check? 452 00:16:22,265 --> 00:16:24,600 - Right. So let's message her here. 453 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,602 Hey, April. 454 00:16:26,602 --> 00:16:28,438 This is Nev from the TV show, "Catfish." 455 00:16:28,438 --> 00:16:30,740 We randomly came across you while doing some research, 456 00:16:30,740 --> 00:16:33,042 and we're hoping you could jump on a call and help us out. 457 00:16:33,042 --> 00:16:35,278 Let me know if you're available this afternoon, thanks. 458 00:16:35,278 --> 00:16:37,380 - ♪ Bah, bah, bah ♪ 459 00:16:37,380 --> 00:16:40,383 - I feel like we've got enough now to go talk to Shay. 460 00:16:40,383 --> 00:16:42,718 The girl in the pictures is not who she's talking to. 461 00:16:42,718 --> 00:16:43,953 That is someone else. 462 00:16:43,953 --> 00:16:45,555 - Alise. - Right. 463 00:16:45,555 --> 00:16:50,593 So is all of the drama that Shay experienced 464 00:16:50,593 --> 00:16:53,963 in relation to Ceejay the insane creation 465 00:16:53,963 --> 00:16:55,531 of this one woman, April? 466 00:16:55,531 --> 00:17:00,503 Or was it April and somebody or some other people? 467 00:17:00,503 --> 00:17:01,337 - Yeah. 468 00:17:01,337 --> 00:17:02,705 If this is what it is, 469 00:17:02,705 --> 00:17:05,208 and we shatter this reality for Shay, 470 00:17:05,208 --> 00:17:07,210 how do you come back from that? 471 00:17:07,210 --> 00:17:08,978 How do you trust anyone in the world again? 472 00:17:11,631 --> 00:17:14,267 - OK. Let's do it. 473 00:17:14,267 --> 00:17:17,670 She said to come on in when we get here. 474 00:17:17,670 --> 00:17:18,971 Hello. - Hi. 475 00:17:18,971 --> 00:17:20,306 - Hi. - How are you? 476 00:17:20,306 --> 00:17:22,475 - Good to see you. - Hi. 477 00:17:22,475 --> 00:17:24,143 How are you feeling? - A little nervous. 478 00:17:24,143 --> 00:17:25,645 - Yeah. - Had a rough night. 479 00:17:25,645 --> 00:17:26,913 - Yeah? 480 00:17:26,913 --> 00:17:27,914 - I was, like, up crying for a couple hours. 481 00:17:27,914 --> 00:17:29,215 You know, it's a lot. 482 00:17:29,215 --> 00:17:30,917 - Just kind of going back through everything? 483 00:17:30,917 --> 00:17:32,518 - Yeah, so we'll see. 484 00:17:32,518 --> 00:17:33,853 - Well, we have some information. 485 00:17:33,853 --> 00:17:35,021 Why don't we-- - Take a seat? 486 00:17:35,021 --> 00:17:38,057 - Have a seat. - OK. 487 00:17:38,057 --> 00:17:40,560 - OK, so the first place we started 488 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,295 was we took the photos that you had, 489 00:17:42,295 --> 00:17:43,896 and we did an image search. 490 00:17:43,896 --> 00:17:45,498 Came back with some hits. 491 00:17:45,498 --> 00:17:48,868 We followed this photo to this Instagram, 492 00:17:48,868 --> 00:17:51,370 but look at the name on it. 493 00:17:51,370 --> 00:17:53,706 - Yes. - Alise Dominique. 494 00:17:53,706 --> 00:17:55,575 So this jumped out at us because-- 495 00:17:55,575 --> 00:17:57,043 - The tattoo. 496 00:17:57,043 --> 00:17:59,645 - Her tattoo says Nique, which you said 497 00:17:59,645 --> 00:18:00,713 was supposed to be her-- 498 00:18:00,713 --> 00:18:02,482 - Mom's name. - Mom's name. 499 00:18:02,482 --> 00:18:04,484 But clearly, it's this girl's name. 500 00:18:04,484 --> 00:18:05,918 - Oh, wow. 501 00:18:05,918 --> 00:18:10,389 - We also found an OnlyFans. 502 00:18:10,389 --> 00:18:11,891 - OK. 503 00:18:11,891 --> 00:18:15,094 - Again with the Nique screen name, active yesterday. 504 00:18:15,094 --> 00:18:17,463 - Hm. - So that's who that girl is. 505 00:18:17,463 --> 00:18:18,931 - Yeah. 506 00:18:18,931 --> 00:18:21,134 - She has an OnlyFans account, She has an Instagram. 507 00:18:21,134 --> 00:18:24,837 She has a whole life that is not in any way connected to-- 508 00:18:24,837 --> 00:18:26,139 - To what we had. 509 00:18:26,139 --> 00:18:27,406 - To what you had. 510 00:18:27,406 --> 00:18:29,075 - Eight years, like, how could you go on 511 00:18:29,075 --> 00:18:33,012 with all the lies and, like, still sleep good at night? 512 00:18:33,012 --> 00:18:34,514 - Mm-hmm. 513 00:18:34,514 --> 00:18:36,983 - After we found this, we thought, all right. 514 00:18:36,983 --> 00:18:39,652 Let's go to the new Instagram account 515 00:18:39,652 --> 00:18:41,721 that Ceejay just popped back up on. 516 00:18:41,721 --> 00:18:44,223 We noticed that there's only one follower, 517 00:18:44,223 --> 00:18:45,791 and that we thought was weird. 518 00:18:45,791 --> 00:18:48,127 We were like, who follows this page? 519 00:18:48,127 --> 00:18:50,930 And there's just one lady named April. 520 00:18:50,930 --> 00:18:52,532 - I've never heard of her. 521 00:18:52,532 --> 00:18:54,233 - Now, obviously, there's a lot of things 522 00:18:54,233 --> 00:18:55,635 that are weird about this account. 523 00:18:55,635 --> 00:18:57,136 - Right. 524 00:18:57,136 --> 00:18:58,471 - Everything about this page is [bleep] weird. 525 00:18:58,471 --> 00:18:59,739 - Yes. 526 00:18:59,739 --> 00:19:01,040 - Perhaps only made weirder by the fact 527 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,608 that only one person follows it. 528 00:19:02,608 --> 00:19:03,843 - Right. 529 00:19:03,843 --> 00:19:05,011 - Why would anyone even know about it? 530 00:19:05,011 --> 00:19:06,312 - Correct. 531 00:19:06,312 --> 00:19:09,482 - And it's this random woman named April. 532 00:19:09,482 --> 00:19:12,285 So we Googled her, and we found her Facebook page. 533 00:19:12,285 --> 00:19:13,786 OK? - Oh, wow. 534 00:19:13,786 --> 00:19:18,157 - April seems like a very normal, nice lady. 535 00:19:18,157 --> 00:19:19,625 She's married. She's got kids. 536 00:19:19,625 --> 00:19:22,094 Does any of this seem familiar, or does any of it-- 537 00:19:22,094 --> 00:19:24,096 - No. - Ring any bells? 538 00:19:24,096 --> 00:19:25,231 - Mm-mm. - OK. 539 00:19:25,231 --> 00:19:28,501 Could it be that this is who 540 00:19:28,501 --> 00:19:30,036 you were talking to that whole time? 541 00:19:30,036 --> 00:19:32,205 - OK. If it is her, why? 542 00:19:32,205 --> 00:19:33,272 - Why? 543 00:19:33,272 --> 00:19:34,607 - Of everything we found, 544 00:19:34,607 --> 00:19:36,509 the fact that there's this one strange woman 545 00:19:36,509 --> 00:19:38,844 who follows the fake, new account. 546 00:19:38,844 --> 00:19:40,313 - She's involved. 547 00:19:40,313 --> 00:19:42,215 - There's a lot of arrows pointing at this woman. 548 00:19:42,215 --> 00:19:45,184 Could she be involved? Could it be her? 549 00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:47,386 We messaged her, but we haven't heard back, 550 00:19:47,386 --> 00:19:48,754 and that's where we're at. 551 00:19:48,754 --> 00:19:50,223 And now we kind of want to sort of check in 552 00:19:50,223 --> 00:19:51,657 and see what you think. 553 00:19:51,657 --> 00:19:55,661 - I'm just ready to finally-- to get the answers. 554 00:19:55,661 --> 00:19:58,564 - I mean, why would someone who says they love you 555 00:19:58,564 --> 00:20:01,734 tell you to tattoo a name that has nothing to do-- 556 00:20:01,734 --> 00:20:02,935 - To do with them. 557 00:20:02,935 --> 00:20:05,104 - Is that just some [bleep] up game 558 00:20:05,104 --> 00:20:09,208 to see if they can get you to do something just for fun? 559 00:20:09,208 --> 00:20:10,443 - Probably at that time for them, 560 00:20:10,443 --> 00:20:11,844 yeah, but for me, it wasn't. 561 00:20:11,844 --> 00:20:14,247 - And if that person was a 40-year-old woman, 562 00:20:14,247 --> 00:20:16,482 like, messing with a teenager? 563 00:20:16,482 --> 00:20:18,517 - Like, shame on them. - Yeah. 564 00:20:18,517 --> 00:20:19,952 [phone ringing] - Oh. 565 00:20:19,952 --> 00:20:21,554 We're getting a call. 566 00:20:21,554 --> 00:20:22,588 Hello. 567 00:20:25,391 --> 00:20:26,959 - Yeah, I think so. 568 00:20:26,959 --> 00:20:28,961 How you doing? 569 00:20:28,961 --> 00:20:30,396 - Great. 570 00:20:30,396 --> 00:20:34,533 We are doing a little research on a case here, 571 00:20:34,533 --> 00:20:39,338 and it led us to an account for someone named Ceejay Samuel. 572 00:20:40,773 --> 00:20:43,809 - Oh, well, and that led us to you because you're 573 00:20:43,809 --> 00:20:48,014 the only person who currently follows an account for Ceejay. 574 00:20:48,814 --> 00:20:50,916 - And we were just curious how you know her. 575 00:20:57,456 --> 00:20:59,258 - You were neighbors? 576 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,037 - Do you remember any sort of defining characteristics 577 00:21:11,037 --> 00:21:13,606 about her, like any tattoos? 578 00:21:17,376 --> 00:21:20,413 - Where is that tattoo, do you remember? 579 00:21:20,413 --> 00:21:22,548 - Like her chest? 580 00:21:25,584 --> 00:21:28,521 - OK, I will be in touch if anything else comes up, 581 00:21:28,521 --> 00:21:31,023 and obviously, I'll let her know that you're trying 582 00:21:31,023 --> 00:21:33,192 to get back in touch with her. 583 00:21:35,194 --> 00:21:37,229 - OK, you too, April. 584 00:21:37,229 --> 00:21:38,764 - Bye-bye. 585 00:21:38,764 --> 00:21:42,301 She's lying, unless we're totally wrong here, right? 586 00:21:42,301 --> 00:21:45,371 - I mean, that was very weird. 587 00:21:45,371 --> 00:21:47,573 Sus, sus, sus, sus. 588 00:21:47,573 --> 00:21:50,009 - I don't--I'm not buying it. - I'm not buying it. 589 00:21:50,009 --> 00:21:52,044 - I've never heard that voice. - Well, right. 590 00:21:52,044 --> 00:21:53,346 I mean, she has a very-- 591 00:21:53,346 --> 00:21:54,947 - That's an older, country voice. 592 00:21:54,947 --> 00:21:56,148 - Right. 593 00:21:56,148 --> 00:21:57,883 Is it possible that that lady could-- 594 00:21:57,883 --> 00:21:59,552 - But I've never heard that voice before. 595 00:21:59,552 --> 00:22:01,087 - I had a relationship with a 40-year-old woman 596 00:22:01,087 --> 00:22:02,822 that I thought was 19 because she changed her voice 597 00:22:02,822 --> 00:22:05,925 and made it sound younger and softer. 598 00:22:05,925 --> 00:22:07,927 - Getting creepy now. 599 00:22:09,762 --> 00:22:11,364 - So, OK. 600 00:22:11,364 --> 00:22:13,499 We could try to reach out to Ceejay now. 601 00:22:13,499 --> 00:22:15,334 - Should I try to call her? 602 00:22:15,334 --> 00:22:17,203 - Can you call someone on Instagram now? 603 00:22:17,203 --> 00:22:18,938 - You can. - Shall we try? 604 00:22:18,938 --> 00:22:20,239 - Try. 605 00:22:20,239 --> 00:22:22,108 [line trilling] 606 00:22:22,108 --> 00:22:23,509 [dramatic music] 607 00:22:28,247 --> 00:22:29,782 - This is Shay. 608 00:22:31,117 --> 00:22:33,786 - I was trying to see if you wanted to meet up. 609 00:22:37,690 --> 00:22:39,291 - OK. 610 00:22:40,926 --> 00:22:42,828 - Where are you located? 611 00:22:45,264 --> 00:22:47,266 - What part of Georgia are you in? 612 00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:49,535 - You're in Atlanta. OK, great. 613 00:22:49,535 --> 00:22:52,605 So I'm with "Catfish," so they're going 614 00:22:52,605 --> 00:22:55,341 to help us meet each other. 615 00:22:55,341 --> 00:22:57,176 - Hey, Ceejay, it's Nev, here. 616 00:22:57,176 --> 00:23:00,246 Shay told us you reached out and wanted to meet. 617 00:23:00,246 --> 00:23:03,215 We just wanted to make sure if we do come to Atlanta 618 00:23:03,215 --> 00:23:05,251 that you are in fact there and that you're serious 619 00:23:05,251 --> 00:23:07,453 about meeting up with her because I know in the past, 620 00:23:07,453 --> 00:23:08,621 there's been talk about meeting up, 621 00:23:08,621 --> 00:23:09,889 but it just hasn't happened. 622 00:23:09,889 --> 00:23:11,290 There have been excuses. 623 00:23:11,290 --> 00:23:13,526 So I just want to make sure you're serious this time 624 00:23:13,526 --> 00:23:15,494 about actually getting together. 625 00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:29,575 - OK, we'll plan on meeting up with you tomorrow evening. 626 00:23:30,509 --> 00:23:33,145 [phone beeps] - OK. 627 00:23:33,145 --> 00:23:34,313 - That was her, for sure? 628 00:23:34,313 --> 00:23:35,848 - Yes. 629 00:23:35,848 --> 00:23:37,683 - We've heard some very convincing fake voices, 630 00:23:37,683 --> 00:23:40,386 but Ceejay and April sound so different, right? 631 00:23:40,386 --> 00:23:41,821 - Mm-hmm. 632 00:23:41,821 --> 00:23:44,223 - Well, look, at this point, I'm leaning away 633 00:23:44,223 --> 00:23:47,326 from it being April, but we can't rule her out. 634 00:23:47,326 --> 00:23:48,761 - Sure. 635 00:23:48,761 --> 00:23:50,729 - I think it's safe to assume-- 636 00:23:50,729 --> 00:23:52,832 - That she's hiding something, for sure. 637 00:23:52,832 --> 00:23:56,135 - I mean, this woman is a master manipulator. 638 00:23:56,135 --> 00:23:57,570 - Right. 639 00:23:57,570 --> 00:23:58,938 - I think if we want to get to the finish line, 640 00:23:58,938 --> 00:24:00,272 we're just gonna have to play her game. 641 00:24:00,272 --> 00:24:01,674 - Right. 642 00:24:02,341 --> 00:24:05,478 - All right, well, then we'll hit the road in the morning. 643 00:24:05,478 --> 00:24:06,645 - Sounds good. 644 00:24:06,645 --> 00:24:07,847 I've never been on a plane, so... 645 00:24:07,847 --> 00:24:09,815 - Oh, wow. - But I've got you guys. 646 00:24:09,815 --> 00:24:11,116 - Yeah. 647 00:24:11,116 --> 00:24:12,518 - So this will be a first experience for me-- 648 00:24:12,518 --> 00:24:14,119 and I never left Florida, so... 649 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,588 - Well, let's do it, yeah. 650 00:24:15,588 --> 00:24:17,490 - Let's see. 651 00:24:18,757 --> 00:24:20,459 I appreciate you guys for coming, 652 00:24:20,459 --> 00:24:22,428 and we'll meet up in the morning. 653 00:24:22,428 --> 00:24:24,363 - Yeah. - OK. 654 00:24:25,865 --> 00:24:28,100 - Who knows what the hell's going on here. 655 00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:30,769 I think we just got to buy the ticket, take the ride. 656 00:24:30,769 --> 00:24:33,772 We're on Ceejay's roller coaster ride right now. 657 00:24:33,772 --> 00:24:36,208 I'm sure there are a couple more twists and turns 658 00:24:36,208 --> 00:24:37,476 before it ends. 659 00:24:37,476 --> 00:24:38,644 - Something's lurking around the corner. 660 00:24:41,097 --> 00:24:42,231 - Hi. 661 00:24:42,231 --> 00:24:43,333 How are you? 662 00:24:43,333 --> 00:24:45,001 - What's up? 663 00:24:45,001 --> 00:24:47,537 - That was a lot of walking. - Good to see you. 664 00:24:47,537 --> 00:24:49,072 - How you doing? - I'm doing good. 665 00:24:49,072 --> 00:24:51,474 - Well, are you ready for your first flight? 666 00:24:51,474 --> 00:24:52,609 - Somewhat. 667 00:24:52,609 --> 00:24:53,876 Hey, Ceejay, this is Nev. 668 00:24:53,876 --> 00:24:55,178 I'm with Shay at the airport now 669 00:24:55,178 --> 00:24:56,779 about to get on our flight. 670 00:24:56,779 --> 00:24:59,115 This is her first time flying, and she's super nervous, FYI. 671 00:24:59,115 --> 00:25:01,150 Please send us an address to meet later. 672 00:25:01,150 --> 00:25:02,952 This is a big deal for Shay, and I really hope 673 00:25:02,952 --> 00:25:05,254 you take it seriously and use this as an opportunity 674 00:25:05,254 --> 00:25:06,990 to be real and honest. 675 00:25:06,990 --> 00:25:08,224 - That sounds good. 676 00:25:08,224 --> 00:25:11,594 - Let's do it. - All right, after you. 677 00:25:11,594 --> 00:25:14,897 - ♪ Let's let the ashes fly ♪ 678 00:25:14,897 --> 00:25:16,799 ♪ We'll let the ashes fly ♪ 679 00:25:18,501 --> 00:25:20,703 - ♪ Let's let the ashes fly ♪ 680 00:25:22,672 --> 00:25:25,842 - ♪ Let's let the ashes fly ♪ 681 00:25:25,842 --> 00:25:28,177 - Did it. 682 00:25:28,177 --> 00:25:31,047 ♪ ♪ 683 00:25:31,047 --> 00:25:33,116 It was scary, but I think I could do it again. 684 00:25:33,116 --> 00:25:35,718 - Do you think it was worth it for Ceejay? 685 00:25:37,220 --> 00:25:38,554 - All right. 686 00:25:52,935 --> 00:25:55,805 - I'm kind of curious, like, if she's not the girl 687 00:25:55,805 --> 00:25:58,307 in the picture, then I wonder who she is. 688 00:25:58,307 --> 00:26:00,576 I just don't understand how people could do that 689 00:26:00,576 --> 00:26:02,445 and, like, sleep OK. 690 00:26:02,445 --> 00:26:03,846 - Think about it. 691 00:26:03,846 --> 00:26:05,348 She hasn't really had any consequences. 692 00:26:05,348 --> 00:26:07,450 - Kind of getting butterflies now. 693 00:26:07,450 --> 00:26:09,485 [dramatic music] 694 00:26:09,485 --> 00:26:11,154 - We are getting close. 695 00:26:11,154 --> 00:26:13,423 - My heart is, like, pounding. - Yeah. 696 00:26:13,423 --> 00:26:16,359 - All right. 697 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,461 This is it. - OK. 698 00:26:19,295 --> 00:26:22,799 ♪ ♪ 699 00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:24,200 - There's definitely people. 700 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,102 Not really sure who we're looking for. 701 00:26:27,170 --> 00:26:30,640 "We're here. Where are you?" 702 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,478 ♪ ♪ 703 00:26:35,478 --> 00:26:37,613 Is that her? 704 00:26:37,613 --> 00:26:38,815 - Hi. 705 00:26:38,815 --> 00:26:40,650 - You're not Ceejay, right? 706 00:26:43,352 --> 00:26:45,555 - OK, that's creepy. 707 00:26:45,555 --> 00:26:47,523 - I mean... 708 00:26:47,523 --> 00:26:48,958 - Wait a second. 709 00:26:48,958 --> 00:26:51,294 "Hey, I thought I can do this, but I can't. 710 00:26:51,294 --> 00:26:52,395 I'm scared." 711 00:26:52,395 --> 00:26:53,529 - I mean, the whole point-- 712 00:26:53,529 --> 00:26:54,530 - You're not the only one scared. 713 00:26:54,530 --> 00:26:55,932 - Yeah, you're scared too. 714 00:26:55,932 --> 00:26:57,433 - I understand. Can you-- 715 00:26:57,433 --> 00:26:58,601 - She could still come and talk. 716 00:26:58,601 --> 00:27:01,938 - Chat quickly on phone? 717 00:27:03,906 --> 00:27:05,742 Why don't we just go back to the car anyway 718 00:27:05,742 --> 00:27:07,176 because I guess she's not coming. 719 00:27:07,176 --> 00:27:08,377 - Who knows? 720 00:27:08,377 --> 00:27:09,479 She may not even live in this city. 721 00:27:09,479 --> 00:27:11,080 - We don't even know. 722 00:27:12,849 --> 00:27:14,851 After everything she's put you through, 723 00:27:14,851 --> 00:27:17,386 to say she'll meet us, give us an address, 724 00:27:17,386 --> 00:27:18,921 give us a time. 725 00:27:18,921 --> 00:27:21,023 - And then she bailed. - It's frustrating. 726 00:27:21,023 --> 00:27:22,558 - We flew all the way here because you promised 727 00:27:22,558 --> 00:27:23,826 you would meet Shay. 728 00:27:23,826 --> 00:27:25,628 After all she's been through in her life, 729 00:27:25,628 --> 00:27:31,300 I think you agree she deserves some honesty 730 00:27:31,300 --> 00:27:35,138 and you will meet us tomorrow. 731 00:27:35,138 --> 00:27:37,607 Here's another example of her choosing 732 00:27:37,607 --> 00:27:40,009 what's best for her over what's best for you. 733 00:27:40,009 --> 00:27:41,844 - Yeah. - So all right. 734 00:27:41,844 --> 00:27:43,479 Well, let's go to the hotel. 735 00:27:43,479 --> 00:27:44,614 Hopefully, we'll hear from her 736 00:27:44,614 --> 00:27:46,315 about meeting up with her tomorrow. 737 00:27:46,315 --> 00:27:47,583 - Hopefully. 738 00:27:49,552 --> 00:27:50,820 - Hi, guys. 739 00:27:50,820 --> 00:27:52,355 - Good morning. - Good morning. 740 00:27:52,355 --> 00:27:54,457 - I haven't heard back since we left the park yesterday. 741 00:27:54,457 --> 00:27:55,691 So let me check in. 742 00:27:55,691 --> 00:27:59,962 "Good morning. Can you meet us today?" 743 00:27:59,962 --> 00:28:02,331 - What about calling April? 744 00:28:02,331 --> 00:28:04,901 She's the only human being that we spoke to 745 00:28:04,901 --> 00:28:06,702 that may or may not be involved. 746 00:28:06,702 --> 00:28:08,271 - All right, let's see. 747 00:28:08,271 --> 00:28:09,839 [line trilling] 748 00:28:09,839 --> 00:28:11,274 - Your call has been forwarded-- 749 00:28:11,274 --> 00:28:12,508 - Let me text. 750 00:28:12,508 --> 00:28:17,980 Just checking in to see if you've 751 00:28:17,980 --> 00:28:22,585 been in touch with Ceejay. 752 00:28:22,585 --> 00:28:23,986 Oh. 753 00:28:23,986 --> 00:28:25,655 She said, "I have not, but I can try 754 00:28:25,655 --> 00:28:27,256 getting in touch with her." 755 00:28:27,256 --> 00:28:30,026 "We're in town and trying to meet up with her. 756 00:28:30,026 --> 00:28:32,361 Do you know how we can get a hold of her?" 757 00:28:32,361 --> 00:28:36,499 She said, "I don't, but I might find out where she is." 758 00:28:36,499 --> 00:28:38,234 Hmm. Oh, she's writing more. 759 00:28:38,234 --> 00:28:39,869 "I tracked her down. 760 00:28:39,869 --> 00:28:41,904 She's at her auntie's." 761 00:28:41,904 --> 00:28:43,840 - What? - Amazing. 762 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,741 She seems like she wants to help, 763 00:28:45,741 --> 00:28:47,910 but also suspiciously-- 764 00:28:47,910 --> 00:28:49,478 - Weird. - Connected. 765 00:28:49,478 --> 00:28:50,646 - Yeah. 766 00:28:50,646 --> 00:28:52,048 "I haven't spoken to her in forever. 767 00:28:52,048 --> 00:28:53,950 Now I can find her within minutes." 768 00:28:53,950 --> 00:28:56,252 - Yeah, a little too easy, right? 769 00:28:56,252 --> 00:29:00,056 "But I know for sure she's at this address. 770 00:29:00,056 --> 00:29:01,924 "This all needs to end. 771 00:29:01,924 --> 00:29:04,393 She needs to come clean." 772 00:29:04,393 --> 00:29:07,396 Kind of sounds like it could be April this whole time. 773 00:29:07,396 --> 00:29:08,931 - Oh, April. 774 00:29:08,931 --> 00:29:11,868 - "We will be there in an hour." 775 00:29:11,868 --> 00:29:13,870 - Ready to do this? 776 00:29:13,870 --> 00:29:16,138 - I guess so. 777 00:29:16,138 --> 00:29:19,075 - I don't know what to expect anymore, 778 00:29:19,075 --> 00:29:20,376 now that April's involved. 779 00:29:20,376 --> 00:29:21,744 - Right. 780 00:29:21,744 --> 00:29:23,346 - Who knows what we're getting ourselves into. 781 00:29:23,346 --> 00:29:25,214 - It's all or nothing. 782 00:29:25,214 --> 00:29:28,217 [tense music] 783 00:29:28,217 --> 00:29:34,624 ♪ ♪ 784 00:29:34,624 --> 00:29:37,260 - Whenever you're ready. 785 00:29:37,260 --> 00:29:38,828 - We can go. 786 00:29:38,828 --> 00:29:42,164 ♪ ♪ 787 00:29:42,164 --> 00:29:44,166 - Let's see. 788 00:29:44,166 --> 00:29:50,706 ♪ ♪ 789 00:29:50,706 --> 00:29:52,141 - I don't know who the hell she can be. 790 00:29:52,141 --> 00:29:54,577 - Well, she sent us an address. 791 00:29:54,577 --> 00:29:59,782 ♪ ♪ 792 00:30:01,484 --> 00:30:03,552 - Oh, OK. 793 00:30:03,552 --> 00:30:09,458 ♪ ♪ 794 00:30:09,458 --> 00:30:12,428 [door creaks] 795 00:30:12,428 --> 00:30:14,230 Ceejay? 796 00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:15,197 - Hello. 797 00:30:20,032 --> 00:30:22,634 - Oh, OK. 798 00:30:22,634 --> 00:30:25,037 [dramatic music] 799 00:30:25,037 --> 00:30:27,539 [door creaks] 800 00:30:27,539 --> 00:30:29,608 Ceejay? 801 00:30:29,608 --> 00:30:31,844 - Hello. - How you doing? 802 00:30:31,844 --> 00:30:33,846 - I'm good. - All right. 803 00:30:33,846 --> 00:30:36,015 ♪ ♪ 804 00:30:36,015 --> 00:30:37,683 Come on over--Ceejay, or-- 805 00:30:37,683 --> 00:30:38,984 - Ceejay. 806 00:30:38,984 --> 00:30:41,053 - All right, well... 807 00:30:41,053 --> 00:30:43,055 ♪ ♪ 808 00:30:43,055 --> 00:30:44,690 This is Tallulah. 809 00:30:44,690 --> 00:30:46,759 - Hi, Tallulah. - Nice to meet you. 810 00:30:46,759 --> 00:30:48,727 - You obviously know Shea. 811 00:30:48,727 --> 00:30:50,929 ♪ ♪ 812 00:30:50,929 --> 00:30:55,000 You are and always have been Ceejay? 813 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,969 - Yes, sir. - OK. 814 00:30:56,969 --> 00:30:59,038 - Is Ceejay really your name? Because-- 815 00:30:59,038 --> 00:31:00,572 - No. 816 00:31:00,572 --> 00:31:03,575 - Because I tatted Ceejay on me. 817 00:31:03,575 --> 00:31:08,680 - It's just a nickname that I gave myself years ago. 818 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,516 My name's Tae. 819 00:31:11,984 --> 00:31:15,054 - OK, so who is April? 820 00:31:15,054 --> 00:31:16,455 - April is a good friend of mine. 821 00:31:16,455 --> 00:31:19,658 - OK, we spoke to her. - OK. 822 00:31:19,658 --> 00:31:21,727 - She clearly was covering for you, 823 00:31:21,727 --> 00:31:23,595 but she told us were here. 824 00:31:23,595 --> 00:31:25,431 - Yeah, she called me and told me 825 00:31:25,431 --> 00:31:26,899 she gave y'all the address. 826 00:31:26,899 --> 00:31:30,969 - OK, yesterday, were you planning on meeting us, or... 827 00:31:30,969 --> 00:31:34,306 - Yeah, but I got scared. 828 00:31:34,306 --> 00:31:37,109 - So with the family members, like, with the Asia, 829 00:31:37,109 --> 00:31:39,044 is that really your sister or-- 830 00:31:39,044 --> 00:31:41,947 - So Asia is actually my cousin. 831 00:31:41,947 --> 00:31:45,084 But my mom ended up adopting her when she was little. 832 00:31:45,084 --> 00:31:48,220 - But she never spoke to Asia. 833 00:31:48,220 --> 00:31:51,657 Asia used to text her from your phone. 834 00:31:51,657 --> 00:31:54,026 Was that her-- - Was that her or was that you? 835 00:31:54,026 --> 00:31:56,161 - That wasn't me. 836 00:31:56,161 --> 00:31:57,629 We used each other phone. 837 00:31:57,629 --> 00:31:58,797 That's what me and my family do. 838 00:31:58,797 --> 00:32:00,332 - Oh, wait. 839 00:32:00,332 --> 00:32:02,401 Using someone's phone to text your friends is one thing. 840 00:32:02,401 --> 00:32:04,803 Using someone's phone and texting their girlfriend-- 841 00:32:04,803 --> 00:32:06,638 - I mean, that's the type of bond they had. 842 00:32:06,638 --> 00:32:08,173 - Yeah, but also, it wasn't just texting like, 843 00:32:08,173 --> 00:32:09,675 "Hey, what's up?" 844 00:32:09,675 --> 00:32:12,111 It was, like, blackmail-- - Manipulating, blackmailing. 845 00:32:12,111 --> 00:32:14,146 - How did she manipulate and blackmail you? 846 00:32:14,146 --> 00:32:17,082 - Well, wasn't it Asia who said you should get the tattoo? 847 00:32:17,082 --> 00:32:18,150 - Yeah. - Yeah. 848 00:32:18,150 --> 00:32:19,618 - So I mean-- 849 00:32:19,618 --> 00:32:22,020 yeah, because when she surprised me with the tattoo, 850 00:32:22,020 --> 00:32:23,122 I was shocked. 851 00:32:23,122 --> 00:32:24,656 - There's no way I'm buying that. 852 00:32:24,656 --> 00:32:26,024 - OK. 853 00:32:26,024 --> 00:32:27,860 - There's no way you didn't know 854 00:32:27,860 --> 00:32:31,296 your cousin/sister had tried to convince her 855 00:32:31,296 --> 00:32:33,465 to get a tattoo with your nickname 856 00:32:33,465 --> 00:32:36,301 that you made up for yourself. 857 00:32:36,301 --> 00:32:38,370 - Um-- - Explain how that makes sense. 858 00:32:39,872 --> 00:32:41,373 - I did not--that was not me. 859 00:32:41,373 --> 00:32:42,808 I don't know what you want me to say. 860 00:32:42,808 --> 00:32:45,410 - Right, well, unfortunately, you're starting off 861 00:32:45,410 --> 00:32:47,579 to us as a total liar. 862 00:32:47,579 --> 00:32:49,281 - OK, well, that's how you feel. 863 00:32:49,281 --> 00:32:50,215 - Well, no, it's not how I feel. 864 00:32:50,215 --> 00:32:51,283 You lied to her. 865 00:32:51,283 --> 00:32:52,484 - I did not lie to her. 866 00:32:52,484 --> 00:32:54,153 Never wanted her to get a tattoo. 867 00:32:54,153 --> 00:32:55,687 She surprised me with the tattoo. 868 00:32:55,687 --> 00:32:57,923 - Bull[bleep]. Here's a better question. 869 00:32:57,923 --> 00:33:01,226 Why did you consistently do unbelievably awful things 870 00:33:01,226 --> 00:33:02,594 to her? 871 00:33:02,594 --> 00:33:05,164 - I mean, don't get me wrong, it was wrong. 872 00:33:05,164 --> 00:33:06,832 It was wrong for what I did. 873 00:33:06,832 --> 00:33:09,768 I really did love you. My feelings was real. 874 00:33:09,768 --> 00:33:12,371 It's just like, when I saw you from my real page, 875 00:33:12,371 --> 00:33:14,473 I just knew you wasn't gonna talk to me. 876 00:33:14,473 --> 00:33:16,108 - So the Ceejay page was created 877 00:33:16,108 --> 00:33:19,578 specifically to contact Shay? 878 00:33:19,578 --> 00:33:23,382 - So when you planned the kid, and I did all those things-- 879 00:33:23,382 --> 00:33:26,318 - OK, so I feel like me planning the kid with you 880 00:33:26,318 --> 00:33:27,619 was going to be my motivation 881 00:33:27,619 --> 00:33:29,288 to come out and tell you the truth. 882 00:33:29,288 --> 00:33:30,455 Because you're right. 883 00:33:30,455 --> 00:33:31,890 You can't plan a kid with somebody 884 00:33:31,890 --> 00:33:33,892 and just erase it away. 885 00:33:33,892 --> 00:33:35,928 That's why when you told me you didn't know how 886 00:33:35,928 --> 00:33:39,064 you was gonna afford things, I did my best 887 00:33:39,064 --> 00:33:41,233 to do that for you and the baby. 888 00:33:41,233 --> 00:33:42,467 I made it happen. 889 00:33:42,467 --> 00:33:44,803 Car seat, clothes, all that. 890 00:33:44,803 --> 00:33:49,408 Because I felt like it was my responsibility too. 891 00:33:49,408 --> 00:33:52,978 But you came out and told me you didn't want me to be 892 00:33:52,978 --> 00:33:54,746 a part of your child's life because you didn't want 893 00:33:54,746 --> 00:33:56,548 your daughter confused, and you felt like 894 00:33:56,548 --> 00:33:58,684 her real father was supposed to be a part of her life. 895 00:33:58,684 --> 00:34:01,520 It hurted me. You know, it hurted me bad. 896 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,590 But I still did things for that baby, 897 00:34:04,590 --> 00:34:07,059 regardless how heartbroken I was. 898 00:34:07,059 --> 00:34:10,362 - I mean, the reason why I felt like the father should be there 899 00:34:10,362 --> 00:34:13,065 was because my first daughter was 900 00:34:13,065 --> 00:34:15,834 not born when I was with you. 901 00:34:15,834 --> 00:34:18,470 - If you add it up, she was a month pregnant. 902 00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:20,639 We only been broken up for a month. 903 00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:23,075 So technically, yeah, you did cheat on me. 904 00:34:23,075 --> 00:34:24,343 - Wait a second. 905 00:34:24,343 --> 00:34:26,311 You're upset because you feel like she 906 00:34:26,311 --> 00:34:27,479 cheated on you with that guy? 907 00:34:27,479 --> 00:34:29,081 - Ain't no feel like. She did! 908 00:34:29,081 --> 00:34:31,450 I have already stated like, yes, I was wrong for lying 909 00:34:31,450 --> 00:34:32,951 to you about my identity. 910 00:34:32,951 --> 00:34:36,955 It ain't no excuses for that, and I regret what I did, 911 00:34:36,955 --> 00:34:39,258 but I really did love you. 912 00:34:39,258 --> 00:34:40,826 You [bleep] around in our relationship. 913 00:34:40,826 --> 00:34:42,294 How the [bleep] was-- how the [bleep]-- 914 00:34:42,294 --> 00:34:43,862 - We weren't together, though. 915 00:34:43,862 --> 00:34:47,032 You do know that we broke up like three months, six months. 916 00:34:47,032 --> 00:34:49,067 You're trying to seem like we were consistent. 917 00:34:49,067 --> 00:34:50,936 - Why would you get in a long-distance relationship 918 00:34:50,936 --> 00:34:52,537 knowing you can't be committed, bro? 919 00:34:52,537 --> 00:34:54,273 You have commitment issues. - That's not the point. 920 00:34:54,273 --> 00:34:55,607 - You have commitment issues. 921 00:34:55,607 --> 00:34:57,042 You know what, I don't want to talk no more, 922 00:34:57,042 --> 00:34:58,210 because she's not even being-- 923 00:34:58,210 --> 00:34:59,244 - Hold on a second, hold on a second. 924 00:34:59,244 --> 00:35:00,379 Please come back here-- 925 00:35:00,379 --> 00:35:01,613 - No, I'm not coming back. 926 00:35:01,613 --> 00:35:02,614 - Well-- 927 00:35:02,614 --> 00:35:04,049 - If she's not gonna be honest, 928 00:35:04,049 --> 00:35:05,651 there's no sense in me standing here being honest. 929 00:35:05,651 --> 00:35:08,754 - You don't get to be upset if she's not being honest 930 00:35:08,754 --> 00:35:10,956 because you've been so dishonest for so long. 931 00:35:10,956 --> 00:35:12,424 - We both got hurt in this situation. 932 00:35:12,424 --> 00:35:13,692 You don't know how I feel. 933 00:35:13,692 --> 00:35:15,027 You don't know what I went through. 934 00:35:15,027 --> 00:35:16,962 - Did you take money out of her bank account? 935 00:35:16,962 --> 00:35:18,697 - Yeah, and I blamed it on my sister 936 00:35:18,697 --> 00:35:20,098 because I didn't want to hurt her. 937 00:35:20,098 --> 00:35:21,199 - Right, just like you-- 938 00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:22,434 - I didn't want to hurt her more. 939 00:35:22,434 --> 00:35:23,602 - Blamed the tattoo thing on your sister. 940 00:35:23,602 --> 00:35:25,070 - No. - You put me through a lot. 941 00:35:25,070 --> 00:35:27,239 - You never took responsibility for what you done. 942 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,974 You always point the blame at me. 943 00:35:28,974 --> 00:35:31,877 Be honest. You never once apologized. 944 00:35:31,877 --> 00:35:35,113 You never once felt bad about what you did to me. 945 00:35:35,113 --> 00:35:36,782 She cheated--not just one, Nev. 946 00:35:36,782 --> 00:35:39,384 - We weren't together when these things happened. 947 00:35:39,384 --> 00:35:40,952 - Stop lying! - Hold on a second. 948 00:35:40,952 --> 00:35:42,754 - Hold on a second. 949 00:35:44,823 --> 00:35:47,426 ♪ ♪ 950 00:35:47,426 --> 00:35:50,095 - Wait. Shay, hold on. 951 00:35:50,095 --> 00:35:51,496 - Shay. 952 00:35:55,643 --> 00:35:57,678 - Hold on a second. Hold on a second. 953 00:35:57,678 --> 00:35:59,046 - Hold on a second. 954 00:36:00,314 --> 00:36:03,084 [dramatic music] 955 00:36:03,084 --> 00:36:05,786 - Wait, Shay, hold on. 956 00:36:05,786 --> 00:36:07,922 - Shay. 957 00:36:07,922 --> 00:36:10,157 - Hey. 958 00:36:10,157 --> 00:36:11,992 - Let's take a quick regroup. 959 00:36:11,992 --> 00:36:13,160 - OK. 960 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,096 - You can go inside if you want. 961 00:36:15,096 --> 00:36:17,765 We'll check back in in a minute. 962 00:36:17,765 --> 00:36:21,168 ♪ ♪ 963 00:36:21,168 --> 00:36:24,138 - Just like, take a breath. You're OK. 964 00:36:24,138 --> 00:36:26,841 - Shay, how are you feeling about this? 965 00:36:26,841 --> 00:36:28,676 - That was a lot. 966 00:36:28,676 --> 00:36:30,444 - What do you need in this moment? 967 00:36:30,444 --> 00:36:32,813 Do you feel like you can go home 968 00:36:32,813 --> 00:36:35,149 and start your life as this being-- 969 00:36:35,149 --> 00:36:36,550 - Yeah. - A chapter behind you. 970 00:36:36,550 --> 00:36:38,185 Like, are you open to talking to her ever again? 971 00:36:38,185 --> 00:36:39,987 - I feel like I got what I needed. 972 00:36:39,987 --> 00:36:42,590 And I think this will probably be the last day. 973 00:36:42,590 --> 00:36:44,558 At this moment, I don't want anything. 974 00:36:44,558 --> 00:36:45,860 - OK. 975 00:36:45,860 --> 00:36:47,762 - Go in there and with love and just say, 976 00:36:47,762 --> 00:36:49,864 "This is how this is gonna work for me." 977 00:36:49,864 --> 00:36:52,032 - That sounds good. - Want to go do that? 978 00:36:52,032 --> 00:36:53,734 - Yeah. - OK. 979 00:36:53,734 --> 00:36:58,873 ♪ ♪ 980 00:36:58,873 --> 00:37:01,108 - Place to sit? 981 00:37:02,543 --> 00:37:05,246 - Y'all can sit over there. 982 00:37:05,246 --> 00:37:07,548 - This is good. 983 00:37:07,548 --> 00:37:08,949 OK. 984 00:37:08,949 --> 00:37:12,353 Now that we're sitting and we've expressed 985 00:37:12,353 --> 00:37:15,823 our more sort of volatile, toxic feelings and hurt, 986 00:37:15,823 --> 00:37:18,559 I think it's important to clear up the actions 987 00:37:18,559 --> 00:37:21,262 you admit that you did do. 988 00:37:21,262 --> 00:37:23,164 You've owned up to it being you 989 00:37:23,164 --> 00:37:24,398 that used the money, 990 00:37:24,398 --> 00:37:26,233 despite initially blaming on your sister. 991 00:37:26,233 --> 00:37:27,735 - Yeah, I blamed it on my sister. 992 00:37:27,735 --> 00:37:30,604 You know, I told Shay it was my sister, 993 00:37:30,604 --> 00:37:33,440 but it was actually me because I didn't want 994 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,278 to seem even more like an asshole, you know, at the time. 995 00:37:37,278 --> 00:37:39,880 So I just blamed it on my sister 996 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,615 to get my name cleared. 997 00:37:41,615 --> 00:37:43,918 - Do you remember why you took the money? 998 00:37:43,918 --> 00:37:46,153 - Well, I was going through a lot then. 999 00:37:46,153 --> 00:37:48,689 I was homeless. 1000 00:37:48,689 --> 00:37:52,059 And being with Shay just took my mind off a lot of that. 1001 00:37:52,059 --> 00:37:54,228 - I understand she was going through her things, 1002 00:37:54,228 --> 00:37:57,398 but that put me in a jam too 1003 00:37:57,398 --> 00:37:59,934 because I couldn't get grocery, 1004 00:37:59,934 --> 00:38:01,435 and that took from our mouths. 1005 00:38:01,435 --> 00:38:04,071 - Right. - So I'm sorry for that. 1006 00:38:04,071 --> 00:38:06,140 [soft music] 1007 00:38:06,140 --> 00:38:10,010 - Beyond this money thing, you're clearly feeling a lot. 1008 00:38:10,010 --> 00:38:12,079 ♪ ♪ 1009 00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:13,447 - I don't know. 1010 00:38:13,447 --> 00:38:15,950 I don't know how we gon' come back from this. 1011 00:38:17,218 --> 00:38:19,320 You know, we both lost. 1012 00:38:20,054 --> 00:38:22,957 You know, I lost somebody that I truly loved... 1013 00:38:30,598 --> 00:38:32,766 I really do regret everything I did to you. 1014 00:38:32,766 --> 00:38:36,136 And that's why I tried to fix it on my own. 1015 00:38:36,136 --> 00:38:40,641 I went to counseling to get over the pain with Shay. 1016 00:38:41,709 --> 00:38:45,079 I stopped doing what I was doing 1017 00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:49,884 because I genuinely regretted hurting you. 1018 00:38:50,618 --> 00:38:53,320 I have always been in love with Shay. 1019 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,023 I don't know if I'm over her, you know? 1020 00:38:56,023 --> 00:38:58,859 So I can't have no friendship with her 1021 00:38:58,859 --> 00:39:02,830 because I just don't want to fall back in love with her, 1022 00:39:02,830 --> 00:39:04,298 you know? 1023 00:39:04,298 --> 00:39:06,433 She's a great person, you know? 1024 00:39:06,433 --> 00:39:09,503 I'm not gonna open the wounds up again. 1025 00:39:09,503 --> 00:39:11,805 ♪ ♪ 1026 00:39:11,805 --> 00:39:14,942 - How does it feel to hear that? 1027 00:39:14,942 --> 00:39:16,443 - Shocking. 1028 00:39:16,443 --> 00:39:18,979 Because it's been, like, years. 1029 00:39:18,979 --> 00:39:25,452 And you know, I want you to be able to move on and be happy. 1030 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,055 - Right. 1031 00:39:28,856 --> 00:39:31,392 - So it sounds like maybe giving each other 1032 00:39:31,392 --> 00:39:33,327 some space is a good idea. 1033 00:39:33,327 --> 00:39:35,062 - Right. 1034 00:39:35,062 --> 00:39:37,164 - Yep. 1035 00:39:37,164 --> 00:39:38,999 - So is this goodbye? 1036 00:39:39,967 --> 00:39:41,769 - Yes. 1037 00:39:43,570 --> 00:39:47,007 - Well, I'm glad we were able to do this. 1038 00:39:47,007 --> 00:39:48,142 - Thank you. - Yeah. 1039 00:39:48,142 --> 00:39:50,110 - Thank you. - I appreciate that. 1040 00:39:50,110 --> 00:39:53,681 - ♪ I see the world outside my door ♪ 1041 00:39:53,681 --> 00:39:57,117 ♪ Constant reminder there's so much more... ♪ 1042 00:39:57,117 --> 00:39:58,519 - Well, that's over with. 1043 00:39:58,519 --> 00:40:00,287 - Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you, Nev. 1044 00:40:00,287 --> 00:40:02,389 - Nice to meet you. 1045 00:40:02,389 --> 00:40:04,525 - Same. - Nice to meet you. 1046 00:40:05,826 --> 00:40:07,494 - OK. 1047 00:40:09,229 --> 00:40:10,965 - All right. Take care. 1048 00:40:10,965 --> 00:40:13,367 - Take care. 1049 00:40:13,367 --> 00:40:17,705 - ♪ So when I break down, I list off the reasons ♪ 1050 00:40:17,705 --> 00:40:20,441 - Are you ready to move on now? 1051 00:40:20,441 --> 00:40:23,077 - Yeah, I'm ready to move on. 1052 00:40:23,077 --> 00:40:25,746 I'm much more at peace now. 1053 00:40:25,746 --> 00:40:28,983 - ♪ I'll find a way through the sorrow ♪ 1054 00:40:28,983 --> 00:40:33,721 - I'm ready to--visually meet someone, you know? 1055 00:40:33,721 --> 00:40:36,323 I don't have to keep looking over my shoulder. 1056 00:40:36,323 --> 00:40:42,963 ♪ ♪ 1057 00:40:42,963 --> 00:40:46,834 - ♪ Sleep deprivation's got me at my heels ♪ 1058 00:40:46,834 --> 00:40:49,436 ♪ This year taught me how it feels ♪ 1059 00:40:49,436 --> 00:40:51,572 ♪ To be lost and ambitious ♪ 1060 00:40:51,572 --> 00:40:53,273 ♪ I've been on a mission ♪ 1061 00:40:53,273 --> 00:40:56,610 ♪ I won't stop till I'm done ♪ 1062 00:41:00,623 --> 00:41:03,826 [upbeat music] 1063 00:41:03,826 --> 00:41:10,766 ♪ ♪ 1064 00:41:31,213 --> 00:41:32,447 - Angela was in a relationship for almost 20 years, 1065 00:41:32,447 --> 00:41:33,548 but that ended. 1066 00:41:33,548 --> 00:41:35,016 Gets into TikTok, and right away, 1067 00:41:35,016 --> 00:41:36,952 she gets a message from a Justin. 1068 00:41:36,952 --> 00:41:38,653 - He always would say, "You're smart, you're pretty." 1069 00:41:38,653 --> 00:41:40,055 - You don't even know how old he is? 1070 00:41:40,055 --> 00:41:42,224 But what's that? - That is a wedding ring. 1071 00:41:42,224 --> 00:41:43,992 - He's married! 1072 00:41:43,992 --> 00:41:46,561 - I'm not feeling so good about this now. 1073 00:41:46,561 --> 00:41:48,730 - Hey. Are you Justin?