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- ♪ MTV ♪
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- Ceejay and I
decided to have a kid.
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I had to screen the guys.
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She knew when I ovulated.
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She would be like,
"You need to meet up with him."
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And I would be like, "I don't
want to meet up with him."
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- Honestly, this sounds
like a horror movie.
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- Oh.
- Holy [bleep].
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- That's her.
- Oh, my God.
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This is so creepy.
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- Who knows what
we're getting ourselves into.
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- It's all or nothing.
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[dramatic music]
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- Ceejay?
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[dramatic musical sting]
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- All right, welcome back.
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We have another
special guest cohost,
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except this one
you probably remember.
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In fact, this will be her fifth
episode hosting show with me,
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and I'm so thrilled she's back.
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Tallulah Willis, everyone.
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- Hi!
- Hey!
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- New hair.
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- Dude, new hair.
- New vibe.
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- New vibe, I know.
I grew up a little bit.
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I was like a little baby.
Now I'm a woman.
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- We were just reminiscing.
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You were definitely
in some interesting episodes.
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- This is him.
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I had no idea how
to navigate those.
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Obviously, he's into you,
but that's not enough.
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He needs to be wowing you.
- Yeah.
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- You did great.
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- I was pretty
impressed, actually.
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- You ready to do it again?
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- Super excited.
- Let's get to work.
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All right.
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We got something
in the old inbox.
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"Hey, Nev and Tallulah.
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"My name is Shay.
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"I'm 25 years old, and I'm
from Pompano Beach, Florida.
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Eight years ago, I met a girl
on Facebook named Ceejay."
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- ♪ Do you remember
when we used to have it all? ♪
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♪ I could not love you more,
it was not long ago ♪
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- "This was
a whirlwind teenage romance
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"that had more ups and downs
than a roller coaster.
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"I know you help people
who are in love.
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Well, we were in love."
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- ♪ We came
to a crossing road ♪
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♪ And I gave up your hand ♪
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- "So in love that we decided
to have a baby together."
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So wait a second.
- Are they--I'm unclear.
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Have they met?
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Hold on.
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"But it all went downhill
from there.
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So much bad stuff happened,
I had to end it."
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- ♪ I had to leave,
I had to go ♪
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♪ Before we both
lose all control, oh ♪
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- "But now things
have gotten crazier,
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"and I owe it to myself
to know what happened here.
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"There's so much to tell you,
but if I wrote it all out,
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"it would be a 15-page letter.
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"Long story short,
she never truly goes away,
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"and I'm always looking
over my shoulder.
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"I need to move on
and feel safe.
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Please, please, help me.
Shay."
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Did they have a child together?
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- But they've never met.
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- I feel like we
should just call her.
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- Yeah, there's a lot of gaps.
- Yeah.
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[line trilling]
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- Hello, Shay?
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- It's Nev, from Catfish.
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- I got your email.
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I should tell you, Kamie is not
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doing this episode with me,
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but a fantastic young lady
is in her place named Tallulah.
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So I'm sitting actually
here with Tallulah,
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just so you know.
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- Hi, nice to meet you.
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- I don't know where
to start, honestly.
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Does it work for you
if we come to Pompano Beach,
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and get into this,
and hopefully figure it out?
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- Great.
- Fantastic.
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- I think we can
just fly down there
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tomorrow morning
and meet up.
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- OK, that sounds good.
I'll send you guys an address.
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- All right, great.
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- Perfect.
- See you tomorrow, Shay.
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- See you tomorrow!
- Thank you guys.
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- Bye.
- Bye.
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- Should we pop on
down to Pompano?
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- Pam-pano, Pampano?
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Pampano.
- Pompano.
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- Pompano.
- Yeah.
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- ♪ Me and you ♪
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- We made it, Pompano Beach.
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So Shay and Ceejay.
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Eight years.
- Eight years.
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There's a baby.
- Well--
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- It's a teenage romance.
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- It sounds like this story
is anything but typical.
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- Right.
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- ♪ Just side by side ♪
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♪ So they can call us stereo ♪
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- OK, let's do this.
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Oh.
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both: Hi!
- Hey!
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- How are you?
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- Good, how are you?
- Good.
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- Shay, Shay, Shay.
Go, Shay.
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- Nice to meet you guys.
- Hi, how are you?
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- Thank you guys for coming.
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- Of course, yeah.
- You guys want to come in?
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- Of course, sure.
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- OK, come on.
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- Shall we?
- Yes.
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- So give me the whole--
just give me the whole story.
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- Timeline.
Yeah, we're here, we're here.
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- OK, so basically,
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I met Ceejay on Facebook
in like 2014.
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- Yeah, eight years
is a long time.
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- Yeah.
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She was like messaging me
a few times
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like, "Hey, you're pretty".
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And I was like,
"Oh, she's really pretty."
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Then we moved on
to exchanging numbers.
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After that, we talked on the
phone like the following day
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when I was leaving school.
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- Oh, so that all
went pretty quick.
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- Yeah, and we
instantly just connected.
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[upbeat music]
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- Where is she from?
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- Georgia.
- OK.
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- So I met her family
about three months
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into the relationship.
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- Online, not in person?
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- Yes, online.
- OK.
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I met her mom
and her sister, Asia.
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And her sister actually was,
like, texting me one day
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and was like, "If you love
Ceejay like you say you do,
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you would tat her name on you."
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So I ended up tatting
her name on my chest.
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And then I called her
and sent her the picture
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while we were on the phone.
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And I'm like--
- Hold on.
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You tattooed a girl's name
on your chest
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that you'd never met,
never FaceTimed with...
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- Mm-hmm.
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- And didn't even
know it was real?
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- Yes.
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I was in love with her,
you know?
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- But why would you even
listen to the sister?
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- I was worried that,
like, she would tell her
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all these things
and then, you know,
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me and her would break up.
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- Is it still there?
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- Well, I covered it
about two years ago.
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- Wow.
- Yeah.
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- Crazy.
OK, so keep going.
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- Yeah, so still
within that first year period,
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she sent a ring
and asked me to marry her.
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- And let me guess,
you say yes.
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- Yes.
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Like, I wore it
like I was engaged.
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- And you told
your friends and family?
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- Mm-hmm.
- That's insane.
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- I know.
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- And you've never
videochatted?
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- We tried
to videochat a few times,
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but she would have excuses.
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Like her phone was broke
or her front camera was broke.
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- Ding, ding, ding.
- She couldn't see me.
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- But you're still excited
because this woman
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seems great and seems to really
love you and she's beautiful?
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- Yes.
We started making huge plans.
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Almost a year in,
we decided to have a kid.
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- So what was the plan?
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- I had to, like,
basically screen the guys.
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Like, one guy I met, I sent
her a picture of me and him.
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And she would give approval.
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- So this isn't like the online
database for sperm donors.
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This is live human man.
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- She kept pushing
the issue like,
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"Oh, you know,
you need to meet up with him,"
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and I would be like, "I don't
want to meet up with him."
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- Wow.
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- She knew when I ovulated.
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She actually had
a tracker on her phone.
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She would be like,
"You need to go now
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because you're high
in that fertility range."
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- This is [bleep] creepy.
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Did you talk
to this guy and say,
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"Hey, I just want
to let you know..."
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- This is the situation.
- "I've got a girlfriend."
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- I told him what the plan was,
that I had a girlfriend,
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and we were trying
to plan a kid.
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- OK.
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- So I met this one guy.
We started hanging out.
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But because at that time,
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me and Ceejay
weren't on good terms,
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she was like verbally abusive
and mentally draining.
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So I kind of got
romantically involved with him
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in the breaks of me and her.
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- So you actually developed
feelings for him...
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- Mm-hmm.
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- Even though he initially
started just as a potential--
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- Sperm man.
- Sperm donor.
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- Pretty much.
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But then I still ended up
getting pregnant.
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- Wow.
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- And then we basically didn't
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have a good relationship
from there.
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He ended up leaving.
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And then Ceejay did step up
and start sending me
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things for the baby.
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- Like what?
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- She sent me a car seat,
baby bag, clothes.
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- All right,
so that's kind of nice.
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- Yeah, but there's time
about three months
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into the relationship
when I was the one
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that was there for her
when she needed money.
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- You sent her money?
- Yeah.
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At one point at time,
I gave her my card.
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So she'll be like,
"Oh, I'm ordering pizza."
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- What?
Your bank card?
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- Yeah.
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And one day I went
to the store,
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and my card declined.
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I had $0.
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And then when I called her
and asked her about it,
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she said it was
her sister, Asia,
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and that she
was gonna handle it.
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And I guess her and Asia
apparently got into a fight.
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- So she's never paid you back,
I presume?
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- Mm-mm.
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- OK, so fast forward
and you have this baby.
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- And me and her
were still on and off.
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You know, we wouldn't talk
for like three or four months,
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and then she'll pop
back out of the blue.
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But then I told her
I was pregnant again.
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- Wait a second.
How did that happen?
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- My--I guess you
could say boyfriend,
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we ended up, like, getting
back romantically involved.
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- So you got back together
with your baby daddy.
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- Yes.
And then Ceejay, she was upset.
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And when she's hurt,
she tends to say hurtful things
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to me,
like tell me she hates me,
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call me names, threaten me.
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And after that,
I completely cut her off.
251
00:09:19,892 --> 00:09:22,361
But once I cut her off,
she stalked me
252
00:09:22,361 --> 00:09:24,597
for like over a year.
253
00:09:24,597 --> 00:09:25,865
- What does that mean?
254
00:09:25,865 --> 00:09:27,233
- Like, for example,
I had a PoF,
255
00:09:27,233 --> 00:09:30,069
and someone wrote me
on PoF named Brit.
256
00:09:30,069 --> 00:09:32,071
And then out of the blue,
Ceejay wrote me
257
00:09:32,071 --> 00:09:35,374
on Brit's page and was like,
I had her reach out to you
258
00:09:35,374 --> 00:09:36,609
because I couldn't contact you.
259
00:09:36,609 --> 00:09:38,177
- OK, crazy.
260
00:09:38,177 --> 00:09:41,113
- There was always, some way,
somehow contacting me.
261
00:09:41,113 --> 00:09:43,616
It has affected me
in like a lot of ways.
262
00:09:43,616 --> 00:09:47,553
I'm afraid to date online
because it was multiple people.
263
00:09:47,553 --> 00:09:49,021
- Oh, my God.
264
00:09:49,021 --> 00:09:51,991
- And then I got a message
on IG a few weeks ago
265
00:09:51,991 --> 00:09:55,227
of her saying, like, "Hey,
I know it's been a few years,
266
00:09:55,227 --> 00:09:56,796
but I want to meet you."
267
00:09:56,796 --> 00:09:59,198
- So after all these years,
that's why you emailed us now?
268
00:09:59,198 --> 00:10:00,800
- That's when you
reached out to "Catfish."
269
00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,001
- Yeah.
- I'm glad you did.
270
00:10:02,001 --> 00:10:03,703
This could be dangerous
without us.
271
00:10:03,703 --> 00:10:05,338
Can we see a picture of--
- Yeah.
272
00:10:05,338 --> 00:10:09,942
- Ceejay?
- So these are like a few pics.
273
00:10:09,942 --> 00:10:12,144
- OK, well she's very pretty.
274
00:10:12,144 --> 00:10:14,146
What does it say on her chest?
275
00:10:14,146 --> 00:10:15,281
- Nique.
276
00:10:15,281 --> 00:10:17,016
She told me
that was her mom's name.
277
00:10:17,016 --> 00:10:18,351
- OK.
278
00:10:18,351 --> 00:10:19,685
Wow, OK.
279
00:10:19,685 --> 00:10:21,520
Well, you know,
I can understand, obviously,
280
00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,956
as a 16-year-old seeing
pictures of that woman
281
00:10:23,956 --> 00:10:25,858
and being, like, into her.
282
00:10:25,858 --> 00:10:28,394
All right, look, this is a lot.
- Yes, it is.
283
00:10:28,394 --> 00:10:31,464
- Honestly, this sounds
like a horror movie.
284
00:10:31,464 --> 00:10:32,932
- Yeah.
285
00:10:32,932 --> 00:10:34,667
- I'm just so glad
that you ended up on "Catfish"
286
00:10:34,667 --> 00:10:36,635
and not like, "Cold Case."
287
00:10:36,635 --> 00:10:38,471
This is some creepy [bleep].
288
00:10:38,471 --> 00:10:39,772
- Yeah.
289
00:10:39,772 --> 00:10:41,173
- What information
do you have for her now?
290
00:10:41,173 --> 00:10:42,842
- The Instagram and then,
like, the old pictures
291
00:10:42,842 --> 00:10:44,377
that I showed you guys.
292
00:10:44,377 --> 00:10:46,112
- So you don't have any
of her phone numbers that you--
293
00:10:46,112 --> 00:10:47,880
- Mm-mm.
- OK, so us the pictures.
294
00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,416
Send us this new Instagram
that she hit you up from
295
00:10:50,416 --> 00:10:51,350
and whatever else you have.
296
00:10:51,350 --> 00:10:52,585
- OK, certainly.
297
00:10:52,585 --> 00:10:53,886
- And we'll do
some research tomorrow.
298
00:10:53,886 --> 00:10:55,421
We'll see what,
if anything, we can find,
299
00:10:55,421 --> 00:10:56,622
which might be tricky.
300
00:10:56,622 --> 00:10:58,624
- OK.
Thank you guys for coming.
301
00:10:58,624 --> 00:11:00,159
- It's nice to meet you.
- Oh, thank you.
302
00:11:00,159 --> 00:11:02,094
- Hopefully, we'll have
some information for you.
303
00:11:02,094 --> 00:11:03,696
- Thank you, Nev.
I appreciate it.
304
00:11:03,696 --> 00:11:06,732
Have a good night, guys.
Thank you.
305
00:11:06,732 --> 00:11:10,436
- Oh, my God.
- Oh, my God!
306
00:11:10,436 --> 00:11:13,339
This is dark.
- That was hard to listen to.
307
00:11:13,339 --> 00:11:16,042
- The fact
that she got bullied into--
308
00:11:16,042 --> 00:11:17,476
- Have a baby.
- Get pregnant.
309
00:11:17,476 --> 00:11:20,146
I'm genuinely concerned
about getting
310
00:11:20,146 --> 00:11:21,547
involved with this person.
311
00:11:21,547 --> 00:11:24,216
This could be
the darkest catfish
312
00:11:24,216 --> 00:11:25,851
we've ever had on the show.
313
00:11:28,638 --> 00:11:31,808
[upbeat music]
314
00:11:31,808 --> 00:11:33,576
- Let's do it.
- Shall we?
315
00:11:33,576 --> 00:11:35,678
- Thank you.
316
00:11:35,678 --> 00:11:37,347
- Hello, you guys.
317
00:11:37,347 --> 00:11:38,515
- Hi!
318
00:11:38,515 --> 00:11:41,251
This place is so cute.
319
00:11:41,251 --> 00:11:43,520
- What a set, huh?
320
00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:44,654
- Minimalist.
321
00:11:44,654 --> 00:11:47,457
So I like that.
[laughs]
322
00:11:47,457 --> 00:11:50,960
- OK, eight years ago,
Shay and Ceejay
323
00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,163
really gets serious quickly.
324
00:11:53,163 --> 00:11:55,331
There was so much happening
in that first year or two.
325
00:11:55,331 --> 00:11:57,433
She was engaged to this girl,
she got a ring,
326
00:11:57,433 --> 00:11:59,669
she got her name tattooed
on her chest.
327
00:11:59,669 --> 00:12:01,204
Ceejay convinced Shay
328
00:12:01,204 --> 00:12:02,972
that they should
have a child together
329
00:12:02,972 --> 00:12:05,008
and Shay did.
330
00:12:05,008 --> 00:12:08,611
She found a guy,
was having sex based on the--
331
00:12:08,611 --> 00:12:10,046
- Direction.
332
00:12:10,046 --> 00:12:11,948
- Direction of Ceejay,
who knew her period chart.
333
00:12:11,948 --> 00:12:13,416
- Oh, my God.
334
00:12:13,416 --> 00:12:15,451
- It slowed down.
They sort of stopped talking.
335
00:12:15,451 --> 00:12:18,188
But Shay got pregnant
with the sperm donor
336
00:12:18,188 --> 00:12:20,156
and had a relationship
with him.
337
00:12:20,156 --> 00:12:24,160
But Ceejay is very good at
manipulating Shay's feelings.
338
00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,328
- Yeah.
339
00:12:25,328 --> 00:12:26,930
- And the abusive
behavior hasn't stopped.
340
00:12:26,930 --> 00:12:29,866
Ceejay still is around--
whether it's
341
00:12:29,866 --> 00:12:32,135
through some sneaky
Plenty of Fish account
342
00:12:32,135 --> 00:12:33,570
or her new Instagram.
343
00:12:33,570 --> 00:12:34,837
She's not gone away.
344
00:12:34,837 --> 00:12:36,472
And now she wants
to meet Shay,
345
00:12:36,472 --> 00:12:38,441
which could be dangerous
without our help.
346
00:12:38,441 --> 00:12:39,809
- Right.
347
00:12:39,809 --> 00:12:41,344
There is so much
psychological abuse happening
348
00:12:41,344 --> 00:12:43,513
to someone
who was so vulnerable.
349
00:12:43,513 --> 00:12:47,951
- Yeah, we need Shay
to be able to fully move on
350
00:12:47,951 --> 00:12:49,452
and away from Ceejay.
351
00:12:49,452 --> 00:12:50,687
- Yeah.
352
00:12:50,687 --> 00:12:52,055
- Here's our email from Shay.
OK.
353
00:12:52,055 --> 00:12:53,489
"Hi, Nev and Tallulah.
354
00:12:53,489 --> 00:12:55,258
"Here's all the recent info
I have for Ceejay,
355
00:12:55,258 --> 00:12:57,093
"and also some details
I remember.
356
00:12:57,093 --> 00:12:59,729
"Ceejay's full name
is Cyannah Samuel.
357
00:12:59,729 --> 00:13:01,664
She should be around 29 or 30."
358
00:13:01,664 --> 00:13:03,199
OK.
359
00:13:03,199 --> 00:13:05,168
"She said she was from New York
but living in Georgia.
360
00:13:05,168 --> 00:13:07,437
"I tried to find the address
I had for her but I couldn't.
361
00:13:07,437 --> 00:13:09,672
"I do remember sending
a package to her
362
00:13:09,672 --> 00:13:11,774
in [bleep]town, Georgia."
363
00:13:11,774 --> 00:13:13,176
OK, so that's something.
364
00:13:13,176 --> 00:13:15,211
"The Instagram she recently
reached out to me was--"
365
00:13:15,211 --> 00:13:17,480
oh, Ceejay Samuel, interesting.
366
00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,983
"Ceejay introduced me
to a bunch of family members.
367
00:13:19,983 --> 00:13:22,352
"Her mom used
to text me quite a lot.
368
00:13:22,352 --> 00:13:24,187
"Her name was Dominique.
369
00:13:24,187 --> 00:13:27,790
The 'Nique' tattoo
on Ceejay's chest was for her."
370
00:13:27,790 --> 00:13:29,092
- Right.
- "I'm attaching pics.
371
00:13:29,092 --> 00:13:30,293
"I hope this
is enough information
372
00:13:30,293 --> 00:13:31,828
"for you to find some answers.
373
00:13:31,828 --> 00:13:33,396
Thanks again, Shay."
374
00:13:33,396 --> 00:13:35,531
Let's run a picture
of this girl.
375
00:13:35,531 --> 00:13:38,301
I have a feeling
it's gonna come back quickly.
376
00:13:38,301 --> 00:13:40,436
There she is.
That's definitely the tattoo.
377
00:13:40,436 --> 00:13:42,572
- Yeah, definitely the girl.
- That's definitely her.
378
00:13:42,572 --> 00:13:45,141
Let's see.
What is this?
379
00:13:45,141 --> 00:13:47,277
So this is a hair account.
- Yeah.
380
00:13:47,277 --> 00:13:49,279
"Nique So Fine came through
last night for a cut."
381
00:13:49,279 --> 00:13:50,747
So this--
- That person--
382
00:13:50,747 --> 00:13:54,050
- Girl's Instagram account
is Nique So Fine and not--
383
00:13:54,050 --> 00:13:55,351
both: Ceejay Samuels.
384
00:13:55,351 --> 00:13:57,086
- Right.
Let's check out her page.
385
00:13:57,086 --> 00:13:58,488
Oh.
- Holy [bleep].
386
00:13:58,488 --> 00:13:59,689
- That's her.
387
00:13:59,689 --> 00:14:01,557
OK, so...
- Riverdale, Georgia.
388
00:14:01,557 --> 00:14:03,593
Born in 1992.
389
00:14:03,593 --> 00:14:05,161
- She's 30.
- 30.
390
00:14:05,161 --> 00:14:08,331
Alise Dominique.
- Oh, [bleep].
391
00:14:08,331 --> 00:14:10,733
- OK, so we've now confirmed
the girl in the picture's name
392
00:14:10,733 --> 00:14:13,403
is Alise Dominique Corbal.
393
00:14:13,403 --> 00:14:15,471
- There's an OnlyFans.
- Oh, really?
394
00:14:15,471 --> 00:14:17,340
I'll just open OnlyFans
on my phone.
395
00:14:17,340 --> 00:14:18,775
- I've never been
on OnlyFans before.
396
00:14:18,775 --> 00:14:20,076
- Really?
- Yeah.
397
00:14:20,076 --> 00:14:22,412
- Oh, yeah.
- Last seen yesterday.
398
00:14:22,412 --> 00:14:24,380
- Wow.
So this is very active.
399
00:14:24,380 --> 00:14:26,249
If Dominique's her middle name,
she goes by Nique,
400
00:14:26,249 --> 00:14:28,251
that means that
Ceejay convinced her to get
401
00:14:28,251 --> 00:14:29,752
a tattoo on her chest of--
402
00:14:29,752 --> 00:14:31,321
- A name that's not even--
403
00:14:31,321 --> 00:14:32,455
oh, my God.
404
00:14:32,455 --> 00:14:34,524
- I mean, that's--
- Diabolical.
405
00:14:34,524 --> 00:14:37,293
That's so [bleep] up.
That's like a fake name.
406
00:14:37,293 --> 00:14:39,729
- Yeah, I mean, she was gonna
have a baby with this person
407
00:14:39,729 --> 00:14:41,864
who was totally lying to her.
408
00:14:41,864 --> 00:14:43,599
- Have we looked
at the Instagram
409
00:14:43,599 --> 00:14:45,735
that she just reached
out to Shay on?
410
00:14:45,735 --> 00:14:48,371
- Oh. Let's go to that.
411
00:14:48,371 --> 00:14:52,241
OK, so--OK, so this page
has like very little on it.
412
00:14:52,241 --> 00:14:53,976
- Yeah.
- Oh, look.
413
00:14:53,976 --> 00:14:56,145
"We was so in love," she said.
414
00:14:56,145 --> 00:14:58,014
- There's more photos.
415
00:14:58,014 --> 00:14:59,549
- But these are old.
416
00:14:59,549 --> 00:15:01,684
OK, all of these pictures
were posted on the same day.
417
00:15:01,684 --> 00:15:04,787
So she's posting all
the old pictures and texts
418
00:15:04,787 --> 00:15:07,490
that they had sent each other
from when they were talking.
419
00:15:07,490 --> 00:15:09,792
So this is like, a weird,
like, memory lane--
420
00:15:09,792 --> 00:15:11,227
- Memory lane photo album.
421
00:15:11,227 --> 00:15:13,429
- Weird that she's
still posting these things.
422
00:15:13,429 --> 00:15:14,731
OK, wait.
423
00:15:14,731 --> 00:15:17,467
This has only one follower.
424
00:15:17,467 --> 00:15:20,903
Who's this one person that
would even be on her page?
425
00:15:20,903 --> 00:15:22,405
- April [bleep].
426
00:15:22,405 --> 00:15:25,975
- Who is she?
Why is she on this page?
427
00:15:25,975 --> 00:15:28,111
Like, why would
this middle-aged woman
428
00:15:28,111 --> 00:15:29,812
be on this page?
429
00:15:29,812 --> 00:15:32,281
- Oh, this is so rough.
430
00:15:32,281 --> 00:15:34,250
- She made this account--
- Oh, my God.
431
00:15:34,250 --> 00:15:36,285
- It has to be her.
432
00:15:36,285 --> 00:15:37,920
Who is this?
We got to look her up.
433
00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,889
- We got to look her up.
Oh, my God.
434
00:15:39,889 --> 00:15:42,325
- Is this--
- This is so creepy.
435
00:15:42,325 --> 00:15:44,394
- Ceejay?
- Georgia.
436
00:15:44,394 --> 00:15:47,330
- OK.
Married since 2001.
437
00:15:47,330 --> 00:15:48,931
This does feel
like a real page.
438
00:15:48,931 --> 00:15:52,902
She's got her husband,
looks like they may have a son.
439
00:15:52,902 --> 00:15:55,805
I mean, is this Ceejay?
440
00:15:55,805 --> 00:15:57,573
This is giving me
441
00:15:57,573 --> 00:16:00,710
weird original "Catfish"
documentary vibes.
442
00:16:00,710 --> 00:16:02,311
- Yeah.
443
00:16:02,311 --> 00:16:04,580
- Because the woman who was
talking to me pretending to be
444
00:16:04,580 --> 00:16:07,283
a much younger girl
and a number of other people,
445
00:16:07,283 --> 00:16:10,853
was also married
and also cared for children.
446
00:16:10,853 --> 00:16:13,990
And I'm just seeing
this woman's life, and it's--
447
00:16:13,990 --> 00:16:16,125
- Yeah.
So then what's the move?
448
00:16:16,125 --> 00:16:17,794
Do you message her,
or do you try
449
00:16:17,794 --> 00:16:19,128
to find someone who knows her?
450
00:16:19,128 --> 00:16:20,830
- We could message her and--
451
00:16:20,830 --> 00:16:22,265
- Just kind of
get a temp check?
452
00:16:22,265 --> 00:16:24,600
- Right.
So let's message her here.
453
00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,602
Hey, April.
454
00:16:26,602 --> 00:16:28,438
This is Nev
from the TV show, "Catfish."
455
00:16:28,438 --> 00:16:30,740
We randomly came across you
while doing some research,
456
00:16:30,740 --> 00:16:33,042
and we're hoping you could
jump on a call and help us out.
457
00:16:33,042 --> 00:16:35,278
Let me know if you're available
this afternoon, thanks.
458
00:16:35,278 --> 00:16:37,380
- ♪ Bah, bah, bah ♪
459
00:16:37,380 --> 00:16:40,383
- I feel like we've got
enough now to go talk to Shay.
460
00:16:40,383 --> 00:16:42,718
The girl in the pictures
is not who she's talking to.
461
00:16:42,718 --> 00:16:43,953
That is someone else.
462
00:16:43,953 --> 00:16:45,555
- Alise.
- Right.
463
00:16:45,555 --> 00:16:50,593
So is all of the drama
that Shay experienced
464
00:16:50,593 --> 00:16:53,963
in relation to Ceejay
the insane creation
465
00:16:53,963 --> 00:16:55,531
of this one woman, April?
466
00:16:55,531 --> 00:17:00,503
Or was it April and somebody
or some other people?
467
00:17:00,503 --> 00:17:01,337
- Yeah.
468
00:17:01,337 --> 00:17:02,705
If this is what it is,
469
00:17:02,705 --> 00:17:05,208
and we shatter
this reality for Shay,
470
00:17:05,208 --> 00:17:07,210
how do you come back from that?
471
00:17:07,210 --> 00:17:08,978
How do you trust anyone
in the world again?
472
00:17:11,631 --> 00:17:14,267
- OK. Let's do it.
473
00:17:14,267 --> 00:17:17,670
She said to come on in
when we get here.
474
00:17:17,670 --> 00:17:18,971
Hello.
- Hi.
475
00:17:18,971 --> 00:17:20,306
- Hi.
- How are you?
476
00:17:20,306 --> 00:17:22,475
- Good to see you.
- Hi.
477
00:17:22,475 --> 00:17:24,143
How are you feeling?
- A little nervous.
478
00:17:24,143 --> 00:17:25,645
- Yeah.
- Had a rough night.
479
00:17:25,645 --> 00:17:26,913
- Yeah?
480
00:17:26,913 --> 00:17:27,914
- I was, like, up crying
for a couple hours.
481
00:17:27,914 --> 00:17:29,215
You know, it's a lot.
482
00:17:29,215 --> 00:17:30,917
- Just kind of going
back through everything?
483
00:17:30,917 --> 00:17:32,518
- Yeah, so we'll see.
484
00:17:32,518 --> 00:17:33,853
- Well, we have
some information.
485
00:17:33,853 --> 00:17:35,021
Why don't we--
- Take a seat?
486
00:17:35,021 --> 00:17:38,057
- Have a seat.
- OK.
487
00:17:38,057 --> 00:17:40,560
- OK, so the first place
we started
488
00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,295
was we took the photos
that you had,
489
00:17:42,295 --> 00:17:43,896
and we did an image search.
490
00:17:43,896 --> 00:17:45,498
Came back with some hits.
491
00:17:45,498 --> 00:17:48,868
We followed this photo
to this Instagram,
492
00:17:48,868 --> 00:17:51,370
but look at the name on it.
493
00:17:51,370 --> 00:17:53,706
- Yes.
- Alise Dominique.
494
00:17:53,706 --> 00:17:55,575
So this jumped out
at us because--
495
00:17:55,575 --> 00:17:57,043
- The tattoo.
496
00:17:57,043 --> 00:17:59,645
- Her tattoo says Nique,
which you said
497
00:17:59,645 --> 00:18:00,713
was supposed to be her--
498
00:18:00,713 --> 00:18:02,482
- Mom's name.
- Mom's name.
499
00:18:02,482 --> 00:18:04,484
But clearly,
it's this girl's name.
500
00:18:04,484 --> 00:18:05,918
- Oh, wow.
501
00:18:05,918 --> 00:18:10,389
- We also found an OnlyFans.
502
00:18:10,389 --> 00:18:11,891
- OK.
503
00:18:11,891 --> 00:18:15,094
- Again with the Nique screen
name, active yesterday.
504
00:18:15,094 --> 00:18:17,463
- Hm.
- So that's who that girl is.
505
00:18:17,463 --> 00:18:18,931
- Yeah.
506
00:18:18,931 --> 00:18:21,134
- She has an OnlyFans account,
She has an Instagram.
507
00:18:21,134 --> 00:18:24,837
She has a whole life that is
not in any way connected to--
508
00:18:24,837 --> 00:18:26,139
- To what we had.
509
00:18:26,139 --> 00:18:27,406
- To what you had.
510
00:18:27,406 --> 00:18:29,075
- Eight years, like,
how could you go on
511
00:18:29,075 --> 00:18:33,012
with all the lies and, like,
still sleep good at night?
512
00:18:33,012 --> 00:18:34,514
- Mm-hmm.
513
00:18:34,514 --> 00:18:36,983
- After we found this,
we thought, all right.
514
00:18:36,983 --> 00:18:39,652
Let's go to the new
Instagram account
515
00:18:39,652 --> 00:18:41,721
that Ceejay just
popped back up on.
516
00:18:41,721 --> 00:18:44,223
We noticed that there's
only one follower,
517
00:18:44,223 --> 00:18:45,791
and that we thought was weird.
518
00:18:45,791 --> 00:18:48,127
We were like,
who follows this page?
519
00:18:48,127 --> 00:18:50,930
And there's just
one lady named April.
520
00:18:50,930 --> 00:18:52,532
- I've never heard of her.
521
00:18:52,532 --> 00:18:54,233
- Now, obviously,
there's a lot of things
522
00:18:54,233 --> 00:18:55,635
that are weird
about this account.
523
00:18:55,635 --> 00:18:57,136
- Right.
524
00:18:57,136 --> 00:18:58,471
- Everything about this page
is [bleep] weird.
525
00:18:58,471 --> 00:18:59,739
- Yes.
526
00:18:59,739 --> 00:19:01,040
- Perhaps only made weirder
by the fact
527
00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,608
that only one person
follows it.
528
00:19:02,608 --> 00:19:03,843
- Right.
529
00:19:03,843 --> 00:19:05,011
- Why would anyone
even know about it?
530
00:19:05,011 --> 00:19:06,312
- Correct.
531
00:19:06,312 --> 00:19:09,482
- And it's this random
woman named April.
532
00:19:09,482 --> 00:19:12,285
So we Googled her,
and we found her Facebook page.
533
00:19:12,285 --> 00:19:13,786
OK?
- Oh, wow.
534
00:19:13,786 --> 00:19:18,157
- April seems like
a very normal, nice lady.
535
00:19:18,157 --> 00:19:19,625
She's married.
She's got kids.
536
00:19:19,625 --> 00:19:22,094
Does any of this seem familiar,
or does any of it--
537
00:19:22,094 --> 00:19:24,096
- No.
- Ring any bells?
538
00:19:24,096 --> 00:19:25,231
- Mm-mm.
- OK.
539
00:19:25,231 --> 00:19:28,501
Could it be that this is who
540
00:19:28,501 --> 00:19:30,036
you were talking to
that whole time?
541
00:19:30,036 --> 00:19:32,205
- OK.
If it is her, why?
542
00:19:32,205 --> 00:19:33,272
- Why?
543
00:19:33,272 --> 00:19:34,607
- Of everything we found,
544
00:19:34,607 --> 00:19:36,509
the fact that there's
this one strange woman
545
00:19:36,509 --> 00:19:38,844
who follows the fake,
new account.
546
00:19:38,844 --> 00:19:40,313
- She's involved.
547
00:19:40,313 --> 00:19:42,215
- There's a lot of arrows
pointing at this woman.
548
00:19:42,215 --> 00:19:45,184
Could she be involved?
Could it be her?
549
00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:47,386
We messaged her,
but we haven't heard back,
550
00:19:47,386 --> 00:19:48,754
and that's where we're at.
551
00:19:48,754 --> 00:19:50,223
And now we kind of
want to sort of check in
552
00:19:50,223 --> 00:19:51,657
and see what you think.
553
00:19:51,657 --> 00:19:55,661
- I'm just ready to finally--
to get the answers.
554
00:19:55,661 --> 00:19:58,564
- I mean, why would someone
who says they love you
555
00:19:58,564 --> 00:20:01,734
tell you to tattoo a name
that has nothing to do--
556
00:20:01,734 --> 00:20:02,935
- To do with them.
557
00:20:02,935 --> 00:20:05,104
- Is that just some
[bleep] up game
558
00:20:05,104 --> 00:20:09,208
to see if they can get you
to do something just for fun?
559
00:20:09,208 --> 00:20:10,443
- Probably at that time
for them,
560
00:20:10,443 --> 00:20:11,844
yeah, but for me, it wasn't.
561
00:20:11,844 --> 00:20:14,247
- And if that person
was a 40-year-old woman,
562
00:20:14,247 --> 00:20:16,482
like, messing with a teenager?
563
00:20:16,482 --> 00:20:18,517
- Like, shame on them.
- Yeah.
564
00:20:18,517 --> 00:20:19,952
[phone ringing]
- Oh.
565
00:20:19,952 --> 00:20:21,554
We're getting a call.
566
00:20:21,554 --> 00:20:22,588
Hello.
567
00:20:25,391 --> 00:20:26,959
- Yeah, I think so.
568
00:20:26,959 --> 00:20:28,961
How you doing?
569
00:20:28,961 --> 00:20:30,396
- Great.
570
00:20:30,396 --> 00:20:34,533
We are doing a little research
on a case here,
571
00:20:34,533 --> 00:20:39,338
and it led us to an account for
someone named Ceejay Samuel.
572
00:20:40,773 --> 00:20:43,809
- Oh, well, and that led us
to you because you're
573
00:20:43,809 --> 00:20:48,014
the only person who currently
follows an account for Ceejay.
574
00:20:48,814 --> 00:20:50,916
- And we were just curious
how you know her.
575
00:20:57,456 --> 00:20:59,258
- You were neighbors?
576
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,037
- Do you remember any sort
of defining characteristics
577
00:21:11,037 --> 00:21:13,606
about her, like any tattoos?
578
00:21:17,376 --> 00:21:20,413
- Where is that tattoo,
do you remember?
579
00:21:20,413 --> 00:21:22,548
- Like her chest?
580
00:21:25,584 --> 00:21:28,521
- OK, I will be in touch
if anything else comes up,
581
00:21:28,521 --> 00:21:31,023
and obviously, I'll let
her know that you're trying
582
00:21:31,023 --> 00:21:33,192
to get back in touch with her.
583
00:21:35,194 --> 00:21:37,229
- OK, you too, April.
584
00:21:37,229 --> 00:21:38,764
- Bye-bye.
585
00:21:38,764 --> 00:21:42,301
She's lying, unless we're
totally wrong here, right?
586
00:21:42,301 --> 00:21:45,371
- I mean, that was very weird.
587
00:21:45,371 --> 00:21:47,573
Sus, sus, sus, sus.
588
00:21:47,573 --> 00:21:50,009
- I don't--I'm not buying it.
- I'm not buying it.
589
00:21:50,009 --> 00:21:52,044
- I've never heard that voice.
- Well, right.
590
00:21:52,044 --> 00:21:53,346
I mean, she has a very--
591
00:21:53,346 --> 00:21:54,947
- That's an older,
country voice.
592
00:21:54,947 --> 00:21:56,148
- Right.
593
00:21:56,148 --> 00:21:57,883
Is it possible
that that lady could--
594
00:21:57,883 --> 00:21:59,552
- But I've never heard
that voice before.
595
00:21:59,552 --> 00:22:01,087
- I had a relationship
with a 40-year-old woman
596
00:22:01,087 --> 00:22:02,822
that I thought was 19
because she changed her voice
597
00:22:02,822 --> 00:22:05,925
and made it sound
younger and softer.
598
00:22:05,925 --> 00:22:07,927
- Getting creepy now.
599
00:22:09,762 --> 00:22:11,364
- So, OK.
600
00:22:11,364 --> 00:22:13,499
We could try
to reach out to Ceejay now.
601
00:22:13,499 --> 00:22:15,334
- Should I try to call her?
602
00:22:15,334 --> 00:22:17,203
- Can you call someone
on Instagram now?
603
00:22:17,203 --> 00:22:18,938
- You can.
- Shall we try?
604
00:22:18,938 --> 00:22:20,239
- Try.
605
00:22:20,239 --> 00:22:22,108
[line trilling]
606
00:22:22,108 --> 00:22:23,509
[dramatic music]
607
00:22:28,247 --> 00:22:29,782
- This is Shay.
608
00:22:31,117 --> 00:22:33,786
- I was trying to see
if you wanted to meet up.
609
00:22:37,690 --> 00:22:39,291
- OK.
610
00:22:40,926 --> 00:22:42,828
- Where are you located?
611
00:22:45,264 --> 00:22:47,266
- What part of Georgia
are you in?
612
00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:49,535
- You're in Atlanta.
OK, great.
613
00:22:49,535 --> 00:22:52,605
So I'm with "Catfish,"
so they're going
614
00:22:52,605 --> 00:22:55,341
to help us meet each other.
615
00:22:55,341 --> 00:22:57,176
- Hey, Ceejay, it's Nev, here.
616
00:22:57,176 --> 00:23:00,246
Shay told us you reached out
and wanted to meet.
617
00:23:00,246 --> 00:23:03,215
We just wanted to make sure
if we do come to Atlanta
618
00:23:03,215 --> 00:23:05,251
that you are in fact there
and that you're serious
619
00:23:05,251 --> 00:23:07,453
about meeting up with her
because I know in the past,
620
00:23:07,453 --> 00:23:08,621
there's been talk
about meeting up,
621
00:23:08,621 --> 00:23:09,889
but it just hasn't happened.
622
00:23:09,889 --> 00:23:11,290
There have been excuses.
623
00:23:11,290 --> 00:23:13,526
So I just want to make sure
you're serious this time
624
00:23:13,526 --> 00:23:15,494
about actually
getting together.
625
00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:29,575
- OK, we'll plan on meeting up
with you tomorrow evening.
626
00:23:30,509 --> 00:23:33,145
[phone beeps]
- OK.
627
00:23:33,145 --> 00:23:34,313
- That was her, for sure?
628
00:23:34,313 --> 00:23:35,848
- Yes.
629
00:23:35,848 --> 00:23:37,683
- We've heard some
very convincing fake voices,
630
00:23:37,683 --> 00:23:40,386
but Ceejay and April
sound so different, right?
631
00:23:40,386 --> 00:23:41,821
- Mm-hmm.
632
00:23:41,821 --> 00:23:44,223
- Well, look, at this point,
I'm leaning away
633
00:23:44,223 --> 00:23:47,326
from it being April,
but we can't rule her out.
634
00:23:47,326 --> 00:23:48,761
- Sure.
635
00:23:48,761 --> 00:23:50,729
- I think it's safe to assume--
636
00:23:50,729 --> 00:23:52,832
- That she's hiding something,
for sure.
637
00:23:52,832 --> 00:23:56,135
- I mean, this woman
is a master manipulator.
638
00:23:56,135 --> 00:23:57,570
- Right.
639
00:23:57,570 --> 00:23:58,938
- I think if we want
to get to the finish line,
640
00:23:58,938 --> 00:24:00,272
we're just gonna have
to play her game.
641
00:24:00,272 --> 00:24:01,674
- Right.
642
00:24:02,341 --> 00:24:05,478
- All right, well, then we'll
hit the road in the morning.
643
00:24:05,478 --> 00:24:06,645
- Sounds good.
644
00:24:06,645 --> 00:24:07,847
I've never been on a plane,
so...
645
00:24:07,847 --> 00:24:09,815
- Oh, wow.
- But I've got you guys.
646
00:24:09,815 --> 00:24:11,116
- Yeah.
647
00:24:11,116 --> 00:24:12,518
- So this will be
a first experience for me--
648
00:24:12,518 --> 00:24:14,119
and I never left Florida, so...
649
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,588
- Well, let's do it, yeah.
650
00:24:15,588 --> 00:24:17,490
- Let's see.
651
00:24:18,757 --> 00:24:20,459
I appreciate you guys
for coming,
652
00:24:20,459 --> 00:24:22,428
and we'll meet up
in the morning.
653
00:24:22,428 --> 00:24:24,363
- Yeah.
- OK.
654
00:24:25,865 --> 00:24:28,100
- Who knows what
the hell's going on here.
655
00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:30,769
I think we just got to buy
the ticket, take the ride.
656
00:24:30,769 --> 00:24:33,772
We're on Ceejay's
roller coaster ride right now.
657
00:24:33,772 --> 00:24:36,208
I'm sure there are a couple
more twists and turns
658
00:24:36,208 --> 00:24:37,476
before it ends.
659
00:24:37,476 --> 00:24:38,644
- Something's lurking
around the corner.
660
00:24:41,097 --> 00:24:42,231
- Hi.
661
00:24:42,231 --> 00:24:43,333
How are you?
662
00:24:43,333 --> 00:24:45,001
- What's up?
663
00:24:45,001 --> 00:24:47,537
- That was a lot of walking.
- Good to see you.
664
00:24:47,537 --> 00:24:49,072
- How you doing?
- I'm doing good.
665
00:24:49,072 --> 00:24:51,474
- Well, are you ready
for your first flight?
666
00:24:51,474 --> 00:24:52,609
- Somewhat.
667
00:24:52,609 --> 00:24:53,876
Hey, Ceejay, this is Nev.
668
00:24:53,876 --> 00:24:55,178
I'm with Shay
at the airport now
669
00:24:55,178 --> 00:24:56,779
about to get on our flight.
670
00:24:56,779 --> 00:24:59,115
This is her first time flying,
and she's super nervous, FYI.
671
00:24:59,115 --> 00:25:01,150
Please send us
an address to meet later.
672
00:25:01,150 --> 00:25:02,952
This is a big deal for Shay,
and I really hope
673
00:25:02,952 --> 00:25:05,254
you take it seriously
and use this as an opportunity
674
00:25:05,254 --> 00:25:06,990
to be real and honest.
675
00:25:06,990 --> 00:25:08,224
- That sounds good.
676
00:25:08,224 --> 00:25:11,594
- Let's do it.
- All right, after you.
677
00:25:11,594 --> 00:25:14,897
- ♪ Let's let the ashes fly ♪
678
00:25:14,897 --> 00:25:16,799
♪ We'll let the ashes fly ♪
679
00:25:18,501 --> 00:25:20,703
- ♪ Let's let the ashes fly ♪
680
00:25:22,672 --> 00:25:25,842
- ♪ Let's let the ashes fly ♪
681
00:25:25,842 --> 00:25:28,177
- Did it.
682
00:25:28,177 --> 00:25:31,047
♪ ♪
683
00:25:31,047 --> 00:25:33,116
It was scary, but I think
I could do it again.
684
00:25:33,116 --> 00:25:35,718
- Do you think it was
worth it for Ceejay?
685
00:25:37,220 --> 00:25:38,554
- All right.
686
00:25:52,935 --> 00:25:55,805
- I'm kind of curious,
like, if she's not the girl
687
00:25:55,805 --> 00:25:58,307
in the picture,
then I wonder who she is.
688
00:25:58,307 --> 00:26:00,576
I just don't understand
how people could do that
689
00:26:00,576 --> 00:26:02,445
and, like, sleep OK.
690
00:26:02,445 --> 00:26:03,846
- Think about it.
691
00:26:03,846 --> 00:26:05,348
She hasn't really had
any consequences.
692
00:26:05,348 --> 00:26:07,450
- Kind of getting
butterflies now.
693
00:26:07,450 --> 00:26:09,485
[dramatic music]
694
00:26:09,485 --> 00:26:11,154
- We are getting close.
695
00:26:11,154 --> 00:26:13,423
- My heart is, like, pounding.
- Yeah.
696
00:26:13,423 --> 00:26:16,359
- All right.
697
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,461
This is it.
- OK.
698
00:26:19,295 --> 00:26:22,799
♪ ♪
699
00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:24,200
- There's definitely people.
700
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,102
Not really sure
who we're looking for.
701
00:26:27,170 --> 00:26:30,640
"We're here.
Where are you?"
702
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,478
♪ ♪
703
00:26:35,478 --> 00:26:37,613
Is that her?
704
00:26:37,613 --> 00:26:38,815
- Hi.
705
00:26:38,815 --> 00:26:40,650
- You're not Ceejay, right?
706
00:26:43,352 --> 00:26:45,555
- OK, that's creepy.
707
00:26:45,555 --> 00:26:47,523
- I mean...
708
00:26:47,523 --> 00:26:48,958
- Wait a second.
709
00:26:48,958 --> 00:26:51,294
"Hey, I thought I can do this,
but I can't.
710
00:26:51,294 --> 00:26:52,395
I'm scared."
711
00:26:52,395 --> 00:26:53,529
- I mean, the whole point--
712
00:26:53,529 --> 00:26:54,530
- You're not
the only one scared.
713
00:26:54,530 --> 00:26:55,932
- Yeah, you're scared too.
714
00:26:55,932 --> 00:26:57,433
- I understand.
Can you--
715
00:26:57,433 --> 00:26:58,601
- She could still
come and talk.
716
00:26:58,601 --> 00:27:01,938
- Chat quickly on phone?
717
00:27:03,906 --> 00:27:05,742
Why don't we just
go back to the car anyway
718
00:27:05,742 --> 00:27:07,176
because I guess
she's not coming.
719
00:27:07,176 --> 00:27:08,377
- Who knows?
720
00:27:08,377 --> 00:27:09,479
She may not
even live in this city.
721
00:27:09,479 --> 00:27:11,080
- We don't even know.
722
00:27:12,849 --> 00:27:14,851
After everything
she's put you through,
723
00:27:14,851 --> 00:27:17,386
to say she'll meet us,
give us an address,
724
00:27:17,386 --> 00:27:18,921
give us a time.
725
00:27:18,921 --> 00:27:21,023
- And then she bailed.
- It's frustrating.
726
00:27:21,023 --> 00:27:22,558
- We flew all the way here
because you promised
727
00:27:22,558 --> 00:27:23,826
you would meet Shay.
728
00:27:23,826 --> 00:27:25,628
After all she's been
through in her life,
729
00:27:25,628 --> 00:27:31,300
I think you agree
she deserves some honesty
730
00:27:31,300 --> 00:27:35,138
and you will meet us tomorrow.
731
00:27:35,138 --> 00:27:37,607
Here's another example
of her choosing
732
00:27:37,607 --> 00:27:40,009
what's best for her
over what's best for you.
733
00:27:40,009 --> 00:27:41,844
- Yeah.
- So all right.
734
00:27:41,844 --> 00:27:43,479
Well, let's go to the hotel.
735
00:27:43,479 --> 00:27:44,614
Hopefully, we'll hear from her
736
00:27:44,614 --> 00:27:46,315
about meeting up
with her tomorrow.
737
00:27:46,315 --> 00:27:47,583
- Hopefully.
738
00:27:49,552 --> 00:27:50,820
- Hi, guys.
739
00:27:50,820 --> 00:27:52,355
- Good morning.
- Good morning.
740
00:27:52,355 --> 00:27:54,457
- I haven't heard back since
we left the park yesterday.
741
00:27:54,457 --> 00:27:55,691
So let me check in.
742
00:27:55,691 --> 00:27:59,962
"Good morning.
Can you meet us today?"
743
00:27:59,962 --> 00:28:02,331
- What about calling April?
744
00:28:02,331 --> 00:28:04,901
She's the only human being
that we spoke to
745
00:28:04,901 --> 00:28:06,702
that may
or may not be involved.
746
00:28:06,702 --> 00:28:08,271
- All right, let's see.
747
00:28:08,271 --> 00:28:09,839
[line trilling]
748
00:28:09,839 --> 00:28:11,274
- Your call has
been forwarded--
749
00:28:11,274 --> 00:28:12,508
- Let me text.
750
00:28:12,508 --> 00:28:17,980
Just checking in
to see if you've
751
00:28:17,980 --> 00:28:22,585
been in touch with Ceejay.
752
00:28:22,585 --> 00:28:23,986
Oh.
753
00:28:23,986 --> 00:28:25,655
She said,
"I have not, but I can try
754
00:28:25,655 --> 00:28:27,256
getting in touch with her."
755
00:28:27,256 --> 00:28:30,026
"We're in town and trying
to meet up with her.
756
00:28:30,026 --> 00:28:32,361
Do you know how we
can get a hold of her?"
757
00:28:32,361 --> 00:28:36,499
She said, "I don't, but I
might find out where she is."
758
00:28:36,499 --> 00:28:38,234
Hmm.
Oh, she's writing more.
759
00:28:38,234 --> 00:28:39,869
"I tracked her down.
760
00:28:39,869 --> 00:28:41,904
She's at her auntie's."
761
00:28:41,904 --> 00:28:43,840
- What?
- Amazing.
762
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,741
She seems like
she wants to help,
763
00:28:45,741 --> 00:28:47,910
but also suspiciously--
764
00:28:47,910 --> 00:28:49,478
- Weird.
- Connected.
765
00:28:49,478 --> 00:28:50,646
- Yeah.
766
00:28:50,646 --> 00:28:52,048
"I haven't spoken
to her in forever.
767
00:28:52,048 --> 00:28:53,950
Now I can find her
within minutes."
768
00:28:53,950 --> 00:28:56,252
- Yeah, a little
too easy, right?
769
00:28:56,252 --> 00:29:00,056
"But I know for sure
she's at this address.
770
00:29:00,056 --> 00:29:01,924
"This all needs to end.
771
00:29:01,924 --> 00:29:04,393
She needs to come clean."
772
00:29:04,393 --> 00:29:07,396
Kind of sounds like it could
be April this whole time.
773
00:29:07,396 --> 00:29:08,931
- Oh, April.
774
00:29:08,931 --> 00:29:11,868
- "We will be there
in an hour."
775
00:29:11,868 --> 00:29:13,870
- Ready to do this?
776
00:29:13,870 --> 00:29:16,138
- I guess so.
777
00:29:16,138 --> 00:29:19,075
- I don't know what
to expect anymore,
778
00:29:19,075 --> 00:29:20,376
now that April's involved.
779
00:29:20,376 --> 00:29:21,744
- Right.
780
00:29:21,744 --> 00:29:23,346
- Who knows what
we're getting ourselves into.
781
00:29:23,346 --> 00:29:25,214
- It's all or nothing.
782
00:29:25,214 --> 00:29:28,217
[tense music]
783
00:29:28,217 --> 00:29:34,624
♪ ♪
784
00:29:34,624 --> 00:29:37,260
- Whenever you're ready.
785
00:29:37,260 --> 00:29:38,828
- We can go.
786
00:29:38,828 --> 00:29:42,164
♪ ♪
787
00:29:42,164 --> 00:29:44,166
- Let's see.
788
00:29:44,166 --> 00:29:50,706
♪ ♪
789
00:29:50,706 --> 00:29:52,141
- I don't know
who the hell she can be.
790
00:29:52,141 --> 00:29:54,577
- Well, she sent us an address.
791
00:29:54,577 --> 00:29:59,782
♪ ♪
792
00:30:01,484 --> 00:30:03,552
- Oh, OK.
793
00:30:03,552 --> 00:30:09,458
♪ ♪
794
00:30:09,458 --> 00:30:12,428
[door creaks]
795
00:30:12,428 --> 00:30:14,230
Ceejay?
796
00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:15,197
- Hello.
797
00:30:20,032 --> 00:30:22,634
- Oh, OK.
798
00:30:22,634 --> 00:30:25,037
[dramatic music]
799
00:30:25,037 --> 00:30:27,539
[door creaks]
800
00:30:27,539 --> 00:30:29,608
Ceejay?
801
00:30:29,608 --> 00:30:31,844
- Hello.
- How you doing?
802
00:30:31,844 --> 00:30:33,846
- I'm good.
- All right.
803
00:30:33,846 --> 00:30:36,015
♪ ♪
804
00:30:36,015 --> 00:30:37,683
Come on over--Ceejay, or--
805
00:30:37,683 --> 00:30:38,984
- Ceejay.
806
00:30:38,984 --> 00:30:41,053
- All right, well...
807
00:30:41,053 --> 00:30:43,055
♪ ♪
808
00:30:43,055 --> 00:30:44,690
This is Tallulah.
809
00:30:44,690 --> 00:30:46,759
- Hi, Tallulah.
- Nice to meet you.
810
00:30:46,759 --> 00:30:48,727
- You obviously know Shea.
811
00:30:48,727 --> 00:30:50,929
♪ ♪
812
00:30:50,929 --> 00:30:55,000
You are and always
have been Ceejay?
813
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,969
- Yes, sir.
- OK.
814
00:30:56,969 --> 00:30:59,038
- Is Ceejay really your name?
Because--
815
00:30:59,038 --> 00:31:00,572
- No.
816
00:31:00,572 --> 00:31:03,575
- Because I tatted
Ceejay on me.
817
00:31:03,575 --> 00:31:08,680
- It's just a nickname
that I gave myself years ago.
818
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,516
My name's Tae.
819
00:31:11,984 --> 00:31:15,054
- OK, so who is April?
820
00:31:15,054 --> 00:31:16,455
- April is a good
friend of mine.
821
00:31:16,455 --> 00:31:19,658
- OK, we spoke to her.
- OK.
822
00:31:19,658 --> 00:31:21,727
- She clearly
was covering for you,
823
00:31:21,727 --> 00:31:23,595
but she told us were here.
824
00:31:23,595 --> 00:31:25,431
- Yeah,
she called me and told me
825
00:31:25,431 --> 00:31:26,899
she gave y'all the address.
826
00:31:26,899 --> 00:31:30,969
- OK, yesterday, were you
planning on meeting us, or...
827
00:31:30,969 --> 00:31:34,306
- Yeah, but I got scared.
828
00:31:34,306 --> 00:31:37,109
- So with the family members,
like, with the Asia,
829
00:31:37,109 --> 00:31:39,044
is that really your sister or--
830
00:31:39,044 --> 00:31:41,947
- So Asia is
actually my cousin.
831
00:31:41,947 --> 00:31:45,084
But my mom ended up adopting
her when she was little.
832
00:31:45,084 --> 00:31:48,220
- But she never spoke to Asia.
833
00:31:48,220 --> 00:31:51,657
Asia used to text her
from your phone.
834
00:31:51,657 --> 00:31:54,026
Was that her--
- Was that her or was that you?
835
00:31:54,026 --> 00:31:56,161
- That wasn't me.
836
00:31:56,161 --> 00:31:57,629
We used each other phone.
837
00:31:57,629 --> 00:31:58,797
That's what me
and my family do.
838
00:31:58,797 --> 00:32:00,332
- Oh, wait.
839
00:32:00,332 --> 00:32:02,401
Using someone's phone to text
your friends is one thing.
840
00:32:02,401 --> 00:32:04,803
Using someone's phone
and texting their girlfriend--
841
00:32:04,803 --> 00:32:06,638
- I mean, that's
the type of bond they had.
842
00:32:06,638 --> 00:32:08,173
- Yeah, but also,
it wasn't just texting like,
843
00:32:08,173 --> 00:32:09,675
"Hey, what's up?"
844
00:32:09,675 --> 00:32:12,111
It was, like, blackmail--
- Manipulating, blackmailing.
845
00:32:12,111 --> 00:32:14,146
- How did she manipulate
and blackmail you?
846
00:32:14,146 --> 00:32:17,082
- Well, wasn't it Asia who said
you should get the tattoo?
847
00:32:17,082 --> 00:32:18,150
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
848
00:32:18,150 --> 00:32:19,618
- So I mean--
849
00:32:19,618 --> 00:32:22,020
yeah, because when she
surprised me with the tattoo,
850
00:32:22,020 --> 00:32:23,122
I was shocked.
851
00:32:23,122 --> 00:32:24,656
- There's no way
I'm buying that.
852
00:32:24,656 --> 00:32:26,024
- OK.
853
00:32:26,024 --> 00:32:27,860
- There's no way
you didn't know
854
00:32:27,860 --> 00:32:31,296
your cousin/sister had
tried to convince her
855
00:32:31,296 --> 00:32:33,465
to get a tattoo
with your nickname
856
00:32:33,465 --> 00:32:36,301
that you made up for yourself.
857
00:32:36,301 --> 00:32:38,370
- Um--
- Explain how that makes sense.
858
00:32:39,872 --> 00:32:41,373
- I did not--that was not me.
859
00:32:41,373 --> 00:32:42,808
I don't know what
you want me to say.
860
00:32:42,808 --> 00:32:45,410
- Right, well, unfortunately,
you're starting off
861
00:32:45,410 --> 00:32:47,579
to us as a total liar.
862
00:32:47,579 --> 00:32:49,281
- OK, well,
that's how you feel.
863
00:32:49,281 --> 00:32:50,215
- Well, no,
it's not how I feel.
864
00:32:50,215 --> 00:32:51,283
You lied to her.
865
00:32:51,283 --> 00:32:52,484
- I did not lie to her.
866
00:32:52,484 --> 00:32:54,153
Never wanted her
to get a tattoo.
867
00:32:54,153 --> 00:32:55,687
She surprised me
with the tattoo.
868
00:32:55,687 --> 00:32:57,923
- Bull[bleep].
Here's a better question.
869
00:32:57,923 --> 00:33:01,226
Why did you consistently do
unbelievably awful things
870
00:33:01,226 --> 00:33:02,594
to her?
871
00:33:02,594 --> 00:33:05,164
- I mean, don't get me wrong,
it was wrong.
872
00:33:05,164 --> 00:33:06,832
It was wrong for what I did.
873
00:33:06,832 --> 00:33:09,768
I really did love you.
My feelings was real.
874
00:33:09,768 --> 00:33:12,371
It's just like, when I
saw you from my real page,
875
00:33:12,371 --> 00:33:14,473
I just knew
you wasn't gonna talk to me.
876
00:33:14,473 --> 00:33:16,108
- So the Ceejay page
was created
877
00:33:16,108 --> 00:33:19,578
specifically to contact Shay?
878
00:33:19,578 --> 00:33:23,382
- So when you planned the kid,
and I did all those things--
879
00:33:23,382 --> 00:33:26,318
- OK, so I feel like me
planning the kid with you
880
00:33:26,318 --> 00:33:27,619
was going to be my motivation
881
00:33:27,619 --> 00:33:29,288
to come out
and tell you the truth.
882
00:33:29,288 --> 00:33:30,455
Because you're right.
883
00:33:30,455 --> 00:33:31,890
You can't plan a kid
with somebody
884
00:33:31,890 --> 00:33:33,892
and just erase it away.
885
00:33:33,892 --> 00:33:35,928
That's why when you told me
you didn't know how
886
00:33:35,928 --> 00:33:39,064
you was gonna afford things,
I did my best
887
00:33:39,064 --> 00:33:41,233
to do that
for you and the baby.
888
00:33:41,233 --> 00:33:42,467
I made it happen.
889
00:33:42,467 --> 00:33:44,803
Car seat, clothes, all that.
890
00:33:44,803 --> 00:33:49,408
Because I felt like it was
my responsibility too.
891
00:33:49,408 --> 00:33:52,978
But you came out and told me
you didn't want me to be
892
00:33:52,978 --> 00:33:54,746
a part of your child's life
because you didn't want
893
00:33:54,746 --> 00:33:56,548
your daughter confused,
and you felt like
894
00:33:56,548 --> 00:33:58,684
her real father was supposed
to be a part of her life.
895
00:33:58,684 --> 00:34:01,520
It hurted me.
You know, it hurted me bad.
896
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,590
But I still did things
for that baby,
897
00:34:04,590 --> 00:34:07,059
regardless how
heartbroken I was.
898
00:34:07,059 --> 00:34:10,362
- I mean, the reason why I felt
like the father should be there
899
00:34:10,362 --> 00:34:13,065
was because
my first daughter was
900
00:34:13,065 --> 00:34:15,834
not born when I was with you.
901
00:34:15,834 --> 00:34:18,470
- If you add it up,
she was a month pregnant.
902
00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:20,639
We only been broken up
for a month.
903
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:23,075
So technically, yeah,
you did cheat on me.
904
00:34:23,075 --> 00:34:24,343
- Wait a second.
905
00:34:24,343 --> 00:34:26,311
You're upset
because you feel like she
906
00:34:26,311 --> 00:34:27,479
cheated on you with that guy?
907
00:34:27,479 --> 00:34:29,081
- Ain't no feel like.
She did!
908
00:34:29,081 --> 00:34:31,450
I have already stated like,
yes, I was wrong for lying
909
00:34:31,450 --> 00:34:32,951
to you about my identity.
910
00:34:32,951 --> 00:34:36,955
It ain't no excuses for that,
and I regret what I did,
911
00:34:36,955 --> 00:34:39,258
but I really did love you.
912
00:34:39,258 --> 00:34:40,826
You [bleep] around
in our relationship.
913
00:34:40,826 --> 00:34:42,294
How the [bleep] was--
how the [bleep]--
914
00:34:42,294 --> 00:34:43,862
- We weren't together, though.
915
00:34:43,862 --> 00:34:47,032
You do know that we broke up
like three months, six months.
916
00:34:47,032 --> 00:34:49,067
You're trying to seem
like we were consistent.
917
00:34:49,067 --> 00:34:50,936
- Why would you get
in a long-distance relationship
918
00:34:50,936 --> 00:34:52,537
knowing you can't be
committed, bro?
919
00:34:52,537 --> 00:34:54,273
You have commitment issues.
- That's not the point.
920
00:34:54,273 --> 00:34:55,607
- You have commitment issues.
921
00:34:55,607 --> 00:34:57,042
You know what,
I don't want to talk no more,
922
00:34:57,042 --> 00:34:58,210
because she's not even being--
923
00:34:58,210 --> 00:34:59,244
- Hold on a second,
hold on a second.
924
00:34:59,244 --> 00:35:00,379
Please come back here--
925
00:35:00,379 --> 00:35:01,613
- No, I'm not coming back.
926
00:35:01,613 --> 00:35:02,614
- Well--
927
00:35:02,614 --> 00:35:04,049
- If she's not gonna be honest,
928
00:35:04,049 --> 00:35:05,651
there's no sense in me
standing here being honest.
929
00:35:05,651 --> 00:35:08,754
- You don't get to be upset
if she's not being honest
930
00:35:08,754 --> 00:35:10,956
because you've been
so dishonest for so long.
931
00:35:10,956 --> 00:35:12,424
- We both got hurt
in this situation.
932
00:35:12,424 --> 00:35:13,692
You don't know how I feel.
933
00:35:13,692 --> 00:35:15,027
You don't know what
I went through.
934
00:35:15,027 --> 00:35:16,962
- Did you take money
out of her bank account?
935
00:35:16,962 --> 00:35:18,697
- Yeah, and I blamed it
on my sister
936
00:35:18,697 --> 00:35:20,098
because I didn't want
to hurt her.
937
00:35:20,098 --> 00:35:21,199
- Right, just like you--
938
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:22,434
- I didn't want
to hurt her more.
939
00:35:22,434 --> 00:35:23,602
- Blamed the tattoo thing
on your sister.
940
00:35:23,602 --> 00:35:25,070
- No.
- You put me through a lot.
941
00:35:25,070 --> 00:35:27,239
- You never took responsibility
for what you done.
942
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,974
You always point
the blame at me.
943
00:35:28,974 --> 00:35:31,877
Be honest.
You never once apologized.
944
00:35:31,877 --> 00:35:35,113
You never once felt bad
about what you did to me.
945
00:35:35,113 --> 00:35:36,782
She cheated--not just one, Nev.
946
00:35:36,782 --> 00:35:39,384
- We weren't together
when these things happened.
947
00:35:39,384 --> 00:35:40,952
- Stop lying!
- Hold on a second.
948
00:35:40,952 --> 00:35:42,754
- Hold on a second.
949
00:35:44,823 --> 00:35:47,426
♪ ♪
950
00:35:47,426 --> 00:35:50,095
- Wait.
Shay, hold on.
951
00:35:50,095 --> 00:35:51,496
- Shay.
952
00:35:55,643 --> 00:35:57,678
- Hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
953
00:35:57,678 --> 00:35:59,046
- Hold on a second.
954
00:36:00,314 --> 00:36:03,084
[dramatic music]
955
00:36:03,084 --> 00:36:05,786
- Wait, Shay, hold on.
956
00:36:05,786 --> 00:36:07,922
- Shay.
957
00:36:07,922 --> 00:36:10,157
- Hey.
958
00:36:10,157 --> 00:36:11,992
- Let's take a quick regroup.
959
00:36:11,992 --> 00:36:13,160
- OK.
960
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,096
- You can go
inside if you want.
961
00:36:15,096 --> 00:36:17,765
We'll check back in
in a minute.
962
00:36:17,765 --> 00:36:21,168
♪ ♪
963
00:36:21,168 --> 00:36:24,138
- Just like, take a breath.
You're OK.
964
00:36:24,138 --> 00:36:26,841
- Shay, how are you
feeling about this?
965
00:36:26,841 --> 00:36:28,676
- That was a lot.
966
00:36:28,676 --> 00:36:30,444
- What do you need
in this moment?
967
00:36:30,444 --> 00:36:32,813
Do you feel like
you can go home
968
00:36:32,813 --> 00:36:35,149
and start your life
as this being--
969
00:36:35,149 --> 00:36:36,550
- Yeah.
- A chapter behind you.
970
00:36:36,550 --> 00:36:38,185
Like, are you open
to talking to her ever again?
971
00:36:38,185 --> 00:36:39,987
- I feel like
I got what I needed.
972
00:36:39,987 --> 00:36:42,590
And I think this will
probably be the last day.
973
00:36:42,590 --> 00:36:44,558
At this moment,
I don't want anything.
974
00:36:44,558 --> 00:36:45,860
- OK.
975
00:36:45,860 --> 00:36:47,762
- Go in there and with love
and just say,
976
00:36:47,762 --> 00:36:49,864
"This is how this
is gonna work for me."
977
00:36:49,864 --> 00:36:52,032
- That sounds good.
- Want to go do that?
978
00:36:52,032 --> 00:36:53,734
- Yeah.
- OK.
979
00:36:53,734 --> 00:36:58,873
♪ ♪
980
00:36:58,873 --> 00:37:01,108
- Place to sit?
981
00:37:02,543 --> 00:37:05,246
- Y'all can sit over there.
982
00:37:05,246 --> 00:37:07,548
- This is good.
983
00:37:07,548 --> 00:37:08,949
OK.
984
00:37:08,949 --> 00:37:12,353
Now that we're sitting
and we've expressed
985
00:37:12,353 --> 00:37:15,823
our more sort of volatile,
toxic feelings and hurt,
986
00:37:15,823 --> 00:37:18,559
I think it's important
to clear up the actions
987
00:37:18,559 --> 00:37:21,262
you admit that you did do.
988
00:37:21,262 --> 00:37:23,164
You've owned up to it being you
989
00:37:23,164 --> 00:37:24,398
that used the money,
990
00:37:24,398 --> 00:37:26,233
despite initially blaming
on your sister.
991
00:37:26,233 --> 00:37:27,735
- Yeah,
I blamed it on my sister.
992
00:37:27,735 --> 00:37:30,604
You know,
I told Shay it was my sister,
993
00:37:30,604 --> 00:37:33,440
but it was actually me
because I didn't want
994
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,278
to seem even more like an
asshole, you know, at the time.
995
00:37:37,278 --> 00:37:39,880
So I just blamed it
on my sister
996
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,615
to get my name cleared.
997
00:37:41,615 --> 00:37:43,918
- Do you remember
why you took the money?
998
00:37:43,918 --> 00:37:46,153
- Well, I was going
through a lot then.
999
00:37:46,153 --> 00:37:48,689
I was homeless.
1000
00:37:48,689 --> 00:37:52,059
And being with Shay just took
my mind off a lot of that.
1001
00:37:52,059 --> 00:37:54,228
- I understand she was going
through her things,
1002
00:37:54,228 --> 00:37:57,398
but that put me in a jam too
1003
00:37:57,398 --> 00:37:59,934
because I couldn't get grocery,
1004
00:37:59,934 --> 00:38:01,435
and that took from our mouths.
1005
00:38:01,435 --> 00:38:04,071
- Right.
- So I'm sorry for that.
1006
00:38:04,071 --> 00:38:06,140
[soft music]
1007
00:38:06,140 --> 00:38:10,010
- Beyond this money thing,
you're clearly feeling a lot.
1008
00:38:10,010 --> 00:38:12,079
♪ ♪
1009
00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:13,447
- I don't know.
1010
00:38:13,447 --> 00:38:15,950
I don't know how
we gon' come back from this.
1011
00:38:17,218 --> 00:38:19,320
You know, we both lost.
1012
00:38:20,054 --> 00:38:22,957
You know, I lost somebody
that I truly loved...
1013
00:38:30,598 --> 00:38:32,766
I really do regret everything
I did to you.
1014
00:38:32,766 --> 00:38:36,136
And that's why I tried
to fix it on my own.
1015
00:38:36,136 --> 00:38:40,641
I went to counseling to get
over the pain with Shay.
1016
00:38:41,709 --> 00:38:45,079
I stopped doing
what I was doing
1017
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:49,884
because I genuinely
regretted hurting you.
1018
00:38:50,618 --> 00:38:53,320
I have always been
in love with Shay.
1019
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,023
I don't know if I'm
over her, you know?
1020
00:38:56,023 --> 00:38:58,859
So I can't have
no friendship with her
1021
00:38:58,859 --> 00:39:02,830
because I just don't want
to fall back in love with her,
1022
00:39:02,830 --> 00:39:04,298
you know?
1023
00:39:04,298 --> 00:39:06,433
She's a great person, you know?
1024
00:39:06,433 --> 00:39:09,503
I'm not gonna open
the wounds up again.
1025
00:39:09,503 --> 00:39:11,805
♪ ♪
1026
00:39:11,805 --> 00:39:14,942
- How does it feel
to hear that?
1027
00:39:14,942 --> 00:39:16,443
- Shocking.
1028
00:39:16,443 --> 00:39:18,979
Because it's been, like, years.
1029
00:39:18,979 --> 00:39:25,452
And you know, I want you to be
able to move on and be happy.
1030
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,055
- Right.
1031
00:39:28,856 --> 00:39:31,392
- So it sounds like
maybe giving each other
1032
00:39:31,392 --> 00:39:33,327
some space is a good idea.
1033
00:39:33,327 --> 00:39:35,062
- Right.
1034
00:39:35,062 --> 00:39:37,164
- Yep.
1035
00:39:37,164 --> 00:39:38,999
- So is this goodbye?
1036
00:39:39,967 --> 00:39:41,769
- Yes.
1037
00:39:43,570 --> 00:39:47,007
- Well, I'm glad
we were able to do this.
1038
00:39:47,007 --> 00:39:48,142
- Thank you.
- Yeah.
1039
00:39:48,142 --> 00:39:50,110
- Thank you.
- I appreciate that.
1040
00:39:50,110 --> 00:39:53,681
- ♪ I see the world
outside my door ♪
1041
00:39:53,681 --> 00:39:57,117
♪ Constant reminder
there's so much more... ♪
1042
00:39:57,117 --> 00:39:58,519
- Well, that's over with.
1043
00:39:58,519 --> 00:40:00,287
- Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you, Nev.
1044
00:40:00,287 --> 00:40:02,389
- Nice to meet you.
1045
00:40:02,389 --> 00:40:04,525
- Same.
- Nice to meet you.
1046
00:40:05,826 --> 00:40:07,494
- OK.
1047
00:40:09,229 --> 00:40:10,965
- All right.
Take care.
1048
00:40:10,965 --> 00:40:13,367
- Take care.
1049
00:40:13,367 --> 00:40:17,705
- ♪ So when I break down,
I list off the reasons ♪
1050
00:40:17,705 --> 00:40:20,441
- Are you ready to move on now?
1051
00:40:20,441 --> 00:40:23,077
- Yeah, I'm ready to move on.
1052
00:40:23,077 --> 00:40:25,746
I'm much more at peace now.
1053
00:40:25,746 --> 00:40:28,983
- ♪ I'll find a way
through the sorrow ♪
1054
00:40:28,983 --> 00:40:33,721
- I'm ready to--visually
meet someone, you know?
1055
00:40:33,721 --> 00:40:36,323
I don't have to keep
looking over my shoulder.
1056
00:40:36,323 --> 00:40:42,963
♪ ♪
1057
00:40:42,963 --> 00:40:46,834
- ♪ Sleep deprivation's
got me at my heels ♪
1058
00:40:46,834 --> 00:40:49,436
♪ This year taught me
how it feels ♪
1059
00:40:49,436 --> 00:40:51,572
♪ To be lost and ambitious ♪
1060
00:40:51,572 --> 00:40:53,273
♪ I've been on a mission ♪
1061
00:40:53,273 --> 00:40:56,610
♪ I won't stop till I'm done ♪
1062
00:41:00,623 --> 00:41:03,826
[upbeat music]
1063
00:41:03,826 --> 00:41:10,766
♪ ♪
1064
00:41:31,213 --> 00:41:32,447
- Angela was in a relationship
for almost 20 years,
1065
00:41:32,447 --> 00:41:33,548
but that ended.
1066
00:41:33,548 --> 00:41:35,016
Gets into TikTok,
and right away,
1067
00:41:35,016 --> 00:41:36,952
she gets a message
from a Justin.
1068
00:41:36,952 --> 00:41:38,653
- He always would say,
"You're smart, you're pretty."
1069
00:41:38,653 --> 00:41:40,055
- You don't even know
how old he is?
1070
00:41:40,055 --> 00:41:42,224
But what's that?
- That is a wedding ring.
1071
00:41:42,224 --> 00:41:43,992
- He's married!
1072
00:41:43,992 --> 00:41:46,561
- I'm not feeling so good
about this now.
1073
00:41:46,561 --> 00:41:48,730
- Hey.
Are you Justin?