1 00:00:04,471 --> 00:00:11,478 ♪ 2 00:00:19,786 --> 00:00:23,624 - I saw a "Justice for Natalie Bollinger" group, 3 00:00:23,790 --> 00:00:24,958 and I joined it. 4 00:00:25,058 --> 00:00:27,194 And there was only probably, like, I'd say, 5 00:00:27,327 --> 00:00:28,495 like, 500 members at the time. 6 00:00:28,662 --> 00:00:29,696 But at the end of the day, 7 00:00:29,863 --> 00:00:31,965 there was 2,000 people in there. 8 00:00:32,065 --> 00:00:33,800 And everyone's speculating, 9 00:00:33,901 --> 00:00:35,903 putting their theories out there, 10 00:00:36,069 --> 00:00:37,638 pointing fingers. 11 00:00:37,738 --> 00:00:40,841 When you start looking at it, I mean, it just-- 12 00:00:40,941 --> 00:00:43,076 there's something that's weird there. 13 00:00:43,243 --> 00:00:44,878 ♪ 14 00:00:44,978 --> 00:00:46,947 - I'm so freaked out because, like, 15 00:00:47,114 --> 00:00:49,783 she's never done anything like this before. 16 00:00:49,950 --> 00:00:51,685 And I think something's wrong here. 17 00:00:51,785 --> 00:00:53,320 ♪ 18 00:00:53,420 --> 00:00:57,524 - My gut says that this whole situation is off. 19 00:00:57,624 --> 00:00:59,326 Her boyfriend called me, 20 00:00:59,426 --> 00:01:01,862 and he goes, "Well, I can't find her. 21 00:01:02,029 --> 00:01:03,030 "She's missing. 22 00:01:03,130 --> 00:01:04,631 So is my gun." 23 00:01:04,731 --> 00:01:07,501 ♪ 24 00:01:09,202 --> 00:01:11,772 narrator: In the 21st century, we leave behind 25 00:01:11,872 --> 00:01:14,408 the digital story of our lives, 26 00:01:14,508 --> 00:01:16,276 a chronicle of our greatest triumphs, 27 00:01:16,443 --> 00:01:19,413 but also our darkest nightmares. 28 00:01:19,513 --> 00:01:22,649 ♪ 29 00:01:22,749 --> 00:01:23,817 - Hi. 30 00:01:23,984 --> 00:01:26,820 [somber music] 31 00:01:26,987 --> 00:01:32,759 ♪ 32 00:01:32,859 --> 00:01:35,162 - So can you tell me a bit about Natalie? 33 00:01:35,262 --> 00:01:36,196 Can you, like, describe her? 34 00:01:36,296 --> 00:01:37,364 What does she look like? 35 00:01:37,464 --> 00:01:38,899 Like, what kind of girl is she? 36 00:01:39,066 --> 00:01:40,000 [both laughing] 37 00:01:40,100 --> 00:01:44,104 - Um...she was fantastic. 38 00:01:44,271 --> 00:01:49,476 ♪ 39 00:01:49,576 --> 00:01:52,112 [soft music] 40 00:01:52,279 --> 00:01:53,113 - [grunts] Ow. 41 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,915 - Gonna go back to sleep then? 42 00:01:55,082 --> 00:01:57,384 - She's very beautiful. 43 00:01:57,551 --> 00:01:58,986 Gorgeous child. 44 00:01:59,152 --> 00:02:00,554 She was a twin. 45 00:02:00,687 --> 00:02:03,857 Natalie and Alycia, they are identical twins, 46 00:02:04,024 --> 00:02:06,526 but completely different people. 47 00:02:06,626 --> 00:02:10,397 Natalie, she was definitely the anchor of the two. 48 00:02:10,497 --> 00:02:12,699 She would always, "I'm the big sister. 49 00:02:12,866 --> 00:02:13,900 I'm the oldest." 50 00:02:14,034 --> 00:02:15,369 - [laughs] - Three whole minutes. 51 00:02:15,469 --> 00:02:17,771 But those three minutes, she didn't let you forget it. 52 00:02:17,871 --> 00:02:20,173 ♪ 53 00:02:20,273 --> 00:02:21,541 It was like a married couple. 54 00:02:21,708 --> 00:02:24,011 - Sorry. - [laughs] 55 00:02:24,111 --> 00:02:25,912 When they were babies, 56 00:02:26,079 --> 00:02:27,581 they had, you know, separate cribs. 57 00:02:27,748 --> 00:02:29,950 But they wouldn't sleep unless they were together. 58 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:33,754 And it was like that throughout their lives. 59 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:35,622 - Hi. - Hi. 60 00:02:35,789 --> 00:02:37,591 - They used to call each other "womb-mates" 61 00:02:37,758 --> 00:02:39,593 because they shared an apartment 62 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,029 from the very beginning, you know? 63 00:02:42,129 --> 00:02:43,296 ♪ 64 00:02:43,463 --> 00:02:47,134 They both are very talented artists. 65 00:02:47,234 --> 00:02:48,635 ♪ 66 00:02:48,802 --> 00:02:50,670 It's like, as soon as Natalie picked up a crayon 67 00:02:50,837 --> 00:02:54,241 and started drawing, it just never stopped. 68 00:02:54,341 --> 00:02:57,244 [soft upbeat music] 69 00:02:57,344 --> 00:03:02,682 ♪ 70 00:03:02,783 --> 00:03:04,017 She loved people. 71 00:03:04,184 --> 00:03:06,353 She was very empathetic. 72 00:03:06,453 --> 00:03:08,121 - Very bright. - Yes. 73 00:03:08,221 --> 00:03:10,624 - Very, very bright. - Very intelligent. 74 00:03:10,791 --> 00:03:13,126 She wanted to be involved 75 00:03:13,226 --> 00:03:16,363 with helping disenfranchised people here in our country, 76 00:03:16,463 --> 00:03:19,266 people who don't get a second look. 77 00:03:19,433 --> 00:03:23,637 And then she had gotten into a really bad car accident, 78 00:03:23,737 --> 00:03:26,573 and she wanted to be a nurse after that 79 00:03:26,673 --> 00:03:29,676 because of the care that they give people. 80 00:03:29,776 --> 00:03:31,745 And so that's what she was gonna be 81 00:03:31,912 --> 00:03:33,480 going to college for. 82 00:03:33,580 --> 00:03:37,150 ♪ 83 00:03:37,317 --> 00:03:39,219 - Natalie Marie Bollinger. 84 00:03:39,386 --> 00:03:40,821 [cheers and applause] 85 00:03:40,987 --> 00:03:43,757 - She graduated a year early. 86 00:03:43,857 --> 00:03:45,425 It was the year before her sister, 87 00:03:45,592 --> 00:03:49,362 'cause she was really just trying to start her life. 88 00:03:52,899 --> 00:03:54,868 [bird squawking] 89 00:03:59,039 --> 00:04:01,875 [somber music] 90 00:04:02,042 --> 00:04:04,544 She ended up helping her grandfather 91 00:04:04,711 --> 00:04:07,547 in the last few months of his life. 92 00:04:07,714 --> 00:04:09,449 She loved that man so much. 93 00:04:09,549 --> 00:04:11,885 - That was her father figure. - Yeah. 94 00:04:12,586 --> 00:04:14,788 - But I do you love you very much. 95 00:04:15,822 --> 00:04:17,023 - [sniffling] 96 00:04:17,190 --> 00:04:22,028 - And I hope to take care of you from heaven. 97 00:04:22,129 --> 00:04:24,297 ♪ 98 00:04:24,464 --> 00:04:25,799 - As anyone can imagine, 99 00:04:25,899 --> 00:04:27,367 someone who is terminal, 100 00:04:27,467 --> 00:04:30,637 the person who's there taking care of them... 101 00:04:30,737 --> 00:04:31,805 it's a lot. 102 00:04:31,905 --> 00:04:33,707 I mean, she's a 19-year-old girl, 103 00:04:33,874 --> 00:04:35,142 you know? 104 00:04:35,308 --> 00:04:42,315 ♪ 105 00:04:43,717 --> 00:04:46,586 She struggled with her mental health, 106 00:04:46,753 --> 00:04:50,023 probably since she was about 11 or 12 years old. 107 00:04:50,190 --> 00:04:54,461 And as much as she would stand up for somebody else, 108 00:04:54,628 --> 00:04:55,996 she would be depressed and stuff. 109 00:04:56,096 --> 00:04:57,430 She'd been through counseling. 110 00:04:57,597 --> 00:04:59,633 ♪ 111 00:05:07,908 --> 00:05:08,742 [camera shutter clicks] 112 00:05:08,909 --> 00:05:11,011 They got engaged. 113 00:05:11,111 --> 00:05:13,346 And I was concerned. 114 00:05:13,513 --> 00:05:16,349 Things that moms, you know, worry about and stuff. 115 00:05:16,516 --> 00:05:20,287 But she said that she was having an extremely hard time 116 00:05:20,387 --> 00:05:23,390 and that he really was there for her 117 00:05:23,557 --> 00:05:26,359 and helped her through a lot of stuff 118 00:05:26,459 --> 00:05:29,863 that she struggled with, trying to find her way. 119 00:05:30,030 --> 00:05:31,665 ♪ 120 00:05:31,832 --> 00:05:33,633 Natalie FaceTimed me, 121 00:05:33,733 --> 00:05:36,236 and she pops the camera over to Joey, 122 00:05:36,336 --> 00:05:37,838 and he's like, "Hey, Mom." 123 00:05:38,004 --> 00:05:39,606 And I was like, "Hey." - [laughs] 124 00:05:39,706 --> 00:05:41,875 - And she's like, "Guess what he surprised me with." 125 00:05:41,975 --> 00:05:43,677 And I was like, "What?" 126 00:05:43,777 --> 00:05:46,646 And it was a little apartment. 127 00:05:46,746 --> 00:05:49,516 I knew what she had been dealing with 128 00:05:49,683 --> 00:05:51,117 with her grandfather. 129 00:05:51,218 --> 00:05:53,987 So making these moves for her life, 130 00:05:54,154 --> 00:05:56,056 she was very excited. 131 00:05:56,223 --> 00:05:59,059 [tense music] 132 00:05:59,226 --> 00:06:05,699 ♪ 133 00:06:05,866 --> 00:06:09,202 She saw this man that was sitting on the street, 134 00:06:09,302 --> 00:06:11,838 and people were just passing him. 135 00:06:12,005 --> 00:06:13,506 She asked him if he was okay, 136 00:06:13,673 --> 00:06:16,543 and he just talked to her, and she just listened to him. 137 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:18,545 She was like, "You can add me on Facebook." 138 00:06:18,712 --> 00:06:20,647 You know, like, treated him like he was a human being. 139 00:06:20,747 --> 00:06:22,282 And that's--she carried on. 140 00:06:22,382 --> 00:06:29,422 ♪ 141 00:06:38,031 --> 00:06:40,033 [dramatic music] 142 00:06:40,133 --> 00:06:43,503 It became where he was inundating her. 143 00:06:43,670 --> 00:06:44,871 ♪ 144 00:06:45,038 --> 00:06:46,039 - Yeah. - It was like a-- 145 00:06:46,206 --> 00:06:48,541 nonstop with the messaging. 146 00:06:48,708 --> 00:06:55,715 ♪ 147 00:06:59,419 --> 00:07:01,021 - I tried hard to make that work. 148 00:07:01,187 --> 00:07:03,523 I tried hard to be a good person. 149 00:07:03,623 --> 00:07:04,624 And you know what? 150 00:07:04,791 --> 00:07:05,926 [bleep] happened. 151 00:07:06,026 --> 00:07:08,828 And I wasn't even worth listening to. 152 00:07:08,995 --> 00:07:11,264 - He drove to Virginia. 153 00:07:13,466 --> 00:07:14,634 A few days go by, 154 00:07:14,734 --> 00:07:17,270 and I hear this, like, honk. 155 00:07:17,437 --> 00:07:18,638 And it's not just, like, a beep. 156 00:07:18,738 --> 00:07:20,807 It's like somebody's laid on the horn, just... 157 00:07:20,907 --> 00:07:23,543 [imitates horn blaring] 158 00:07:23,710 --> 00:07:28,081 So I go, and I look out my front door, 159 00:07:28,181 --> 00:07:30,583 and he's just laying on the horn 160 00:07:30,750 --> 00:07:34,587 because Natalie had blocked him and wasn't talking to him. 161 00:07:34,688 --> 00:07:37,590 [tense music] 162 00:07:37,691 --> 00:07:39,592 ♪ 163 00:07:39,693 --> 00:07:41,828 - I didn't know what I had done wrong to her. 164 00:07:41,995 --> 00:07:42,829 I didn't. 165 00:07:42,996 --> 00:07:44,431 Moral of the story is, 166 00:07:44,531 --> 00:07:45,966 just 'cause it's not your fault, 167 00:07:46,066 --> 00:07:48,468 doesn't mean it's not your fault. 168 00:07:48,635 --> 00:07:49,636 - I go out the front, 169 00:07:49,736 --> 00:07:52,405 and I'm like, "I'm calling the police." 170 00:07:52,505 --> 00:07:55,241 And he just kind of tips his hat to me 171 00:07:55,342 --> 00:07:57,277 and is like, "Go ahead." 172 00:07:57,444 --> 00:07:59,279 ♪ 173 00:07:59,446 --> 00:08:01,748 They took him to Virginia Beach Psych, 174 00:08:01,915 --> 00:08:05,185 and that was the last that I had heard of him. 175 00:08:05,352 --> 00:08:07,520 And then she went back to Colorado, 176 00:08:07,620 --> 00:08:10,423 and he started again. 177 00:08:10,590 --> 00:08:11,925 ♪ 178 00:08:12,025 --> 00:08:13,793 - You know, I mean, it was bad enough 179 00:08:13,893 --> 00:08:18,231 that I left Virginia with my hero hating me. 180 00:08:18,398 --> 00:08:20,600 ♪ 181 00:08:20,700 --> 00:08:22,969 I'm not even worth listening to. 182 00:08:23,069 --> 00:08:24,804 ♪ 183 00:08:24,904 --> 00:08:26,973 Yeah, no, at this point in my life, 184 00:08:27,073 --> 00:08:29,275 there is not gonna be good [bleep] coming. 185 00:08:29,442 --> 00:08:34,514 ♪ 186 00:08:34,614 --> 00:08:36,182 - She had even posted on Facebook. 187 00:08:36,349 --> 00:08:39,219 [tense music] 188 00:08:39,386 --> 00:08:46,393 ♪ 189 00:09:07,781 --> 00:09:10,450 - She called me, and after she got the restraining order, 190 00:09:10,583 --> 00:09:13,386 she was super excited about it because it was, like, 191 00:09:13,553 --> 00:09:15,588 giving her back some power. 192 00:09:15,688 --> 00:09:22,695 ♪ 193 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:27,767 [tense music] 194 00:09:27,901 --> 00:09:32,405 - I got a call from Joey saying that she was missing. 195 00:09:32,505 --> 00:09:34,307 And he said, "I just came home, and she was gone. 196 00:09:34,474 --> 00:09:36,076 She wasn't here." 197 00:09:36,242 --> 00:09:39,112 I called Alycia and asked her 198 00:09:39,279 --> 00:09:42,315 if she had seen her sister or heard from her, 199 00:09:42,415 --> 00:09:43,716 and she hadn't. 200 00:09:43,817 --> 00:09:47,687 ♪ 201 00:09:47,787 --> 00:09:49,656 - Her boyfriend called me up. 202 00:09:49,823 --> 00:09:51,357 Her phone is at the house. 203 00:09:51,458 --> 00:09:53,059 He goes, "And it's not like Natalie 204 00:09:53,226 --> 00:09:54,861 to just leave her phone somewhere." 205 00:09:55,028 --> 00:09:57,797 He asked if Natalie was with me, 206 00:09:57,897 --> 00:09:58,998 and I told him no. 207 00:09:59,098 --> 00:10:01,000 I said we were supposed to go on a ride, 208 00:10:01,134 --> 00:10:02,435 but I never heard back from her. 209 00:10:02,602 --> 00:10:05,638 And he goes, "Well, I can't find her. 210 00:10:05,738 --> 00:10:07,640 She's missing, and so is my gun." 211 00:10:07,807 --> 00:10:14,481 ♪ 212 00:10:39,038 --> 00:10:42,075 ♪ 213 00:10:48,515 --> 00:10:54,988 ♪ 214 00:11:07,300 --> 00:11:10,270 [siren wailing] 215 00:11:29,422 --> 00:11:30,390 - Mm-hmm. 216 00:11:51,578 --> 00:11:54,480 [line ringing] 217 00:11:54,581 --> 00:11:55,548 - Hello? - Hi. 218 00:11:55,715 --> 00:11:57,050 Is this Alycia? 219 00:11:57,150 --> 00:11:58,718 - Yeah. - Hi. My name is David Hyde. 220 00:11:58,818 --> 00:12:00,820 I'm a detective with the Broomfield Police Department. 221 00:12:00,987 --> 00:12:02,322 I know it hasn't been that long a time, 222 00:12:02,422 --> 00:12:04,557 but have you heard from your sister at all? 223 00:12:04,657 --> 00:12:06,192 - No, not at all. - Okay. 224 00:12:06,359 --> 00:12:08,595 Any thoughts on where she is? 225 00:12:08,695 --> 00:12:10,463 - Honestly, I'm really concerned 226 00:12:10,630 --> 00:12:12,865 about the person--Shawn. 227 00:12:13,032 --> 00:12:14,968 I'm so freaked out, because, like, 228 00:12:15,068 --> 00:12:17,704 she's never done anything like this before. 229 00:12:17,870 --> 00:12:19,672 And I think something's wrong here. 230 00:12:19,839 --> 00:12:21,407 So I'm gonna go look for her. 231 00:12:21,507 --> 00:12:23,910 I don't want to just sit at home and wait. 232 00:12:24,077 --> 00:12:30,383 ♪ 233 00:12:30,550 --> 00:12:34,487 - I live 1,800 miles away from where she was. 234 00:12:34,587 --> 00:12:38,157 And I put it on Facebook that she was missing. 235 00:12:38,258 --> 00:12:40,793 I was terrified of being so far away. 236 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,830 I remember calling the detective 237 00:12:43,930 --> 00:12:45,431 that had been assigned the case. 238 00:12:45,598 --> 00:12:47,233 I just said to him, 239 00:12:47,333 --> 00:12:51,004 "You need to take this seriously." 240 00:12:51,104 --> 00:12:54,607 I flew across the country on a red-eye. 241 00:12:54,707 --> 00:12:57,410 I didn't get a wink of sleep that night. 242 00:12:57,510 --> 00:13:04,550 ♪ 243 00:13:10,223 --> 00:13:12,792 - Did you leave the house at all for the rest of Wednesday? 244 00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:18,164 - Sure. 245 00:13:19,499 --> 00:13:20,433 - Okay. 246 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,135 So then you go to sleep 247 00:13:22,235 --> 00:13:23,836 at the apartment that night? 248 00:13:24,470 --> 00:13:26,306 Wake up Thursday morning at the apartment? 249 00:13:26,472 --> 00:13:27,306 Okay. 250 00:13:27,473 --> 00:13:28,408 Let's talk about Thursday. 251 00:13:28,508 --> 00:13:29,876 What goes on Thursday? 252 00:13:30,677 --> 00:13:32,412 - The same thing. 253 00:13:32,512 --> 00:13:34,080 I really didn't go anywhere. 254 00:13:34,981 --> 00:13:36,716 - Stayed at the apartment all day? 255 00:13:36,816 --> 00:13:38,217 - I was there all day. 256 00:13:38,384 --> 00:13:39,318 - Okay. So-- 257 00:13:39,419 --> 00:13:40,787 - And I haven't left there 258 00:13:40,953 --> 00:13:43,156 except to go to the corner store 259 00:13:43,256 --> 00:13:44,190 to get stuff. 260 00:13:44,290 --> 00:13:45,191 - On Wednesday? 261 00:13:45,358 --> 00:13:47,160 - Like--I don't know what days. 262 00:13:47,260 --> 00:13:49,028 But everything pretty-- 263 00:13:49,195 --> 00:13:50,596 there might have been a purchase or two 264 00:13:50,697 --> 00:13:51,631 I made with cash. 265 00:13:51,798 --> 00:13:53,399 But I'm pretty sure all my purchases 266 00:13:53,499 --> 00:13:56,502 were made on my-- on my debit card. 267 00:13:57,470 --> 00:13:58,438 - Okay. 268 00:13:58,538 --> 00:14:00,440 And then today-- 269 00:14:00,540 --> 00:14:02,241 tell me about your day today. 270 00:14:05,144 --> 00:14:08,147 - I've been trying to call Natalie all day. 271 00:14:08,314 --> 00:14:09,749 [tense music] 272 00:14:09,916 --> 00:14:12,752 - Do you talk to Natalie on a regular basis? 273 00:14:12,852 --> 00:14:14,153 Or has she talked to you in the last couple days? 274 00:14:14,253 --> 00:14:16,155 - No, sir. Um...I wish. 275 00:14:16,255 --> 00:14:18,324 Dude, if she talked to me the last couple of days, 276 00:14:18,424 --> 00:14:20,159 she'd be with her family already. 277 00:14:20,259 --> 00:14:22,462 ♪ 278 00:14:22,628 --> 00:14:24,430 I--I thought she was in Virginia. 279 00:14:24,597 --> 00:14:26,366 I didn't even know she was here. 280 00:14:26,466 --> 00:14:30,370 I just wish you didn't have to waste your time on me. 281 00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:32,372 - And we're--we're only looking to you for help. 282 00:14:32,472 --> 00:14:33,406 That's why you're here. 283 00:14:33,506 --> 00:14:34,407 So we don't think you're a waste, 284 00:14:34,507 --> 00:14:35,641 'cause you know her. 285 00:14:35,742 --> 00:14:37,443 - Thank--thank goodness. 286 00:14:37,543 --> 00:14:44,584 ♪ 287 00:14:56,062 --> 00:14:57,764 - The Adams County Sheriff's Office is working 288 00:14:57,864 --> 00:14:59,999 a homicide investigation after someone found 289 00:15:00,099 --> 00:15:02,001 a dead body off Riverdale Road. 290 00:15:02,101 --> 00:15:04,837 The agency first labeled this as a death investigation, 291 00:15:05,004 --> 00:15:07,073 but switched it over to a homicide. 292 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,676 [tense music] 293 00:15:10,843 --> 00:15:14,080 - I saw it on TV that they found a female. 294 00:15:14,180 --> 00:15:17,116 I called and spoke with the detectives 295 00:15:17,216 --> 00:15:19,085 that were at the scene, 296 00:15:19,185 --> 00:15:24,424 and they asked me for some...identifiers. 297 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,762 - Coroner confirms the body found last Friday 298 00:15:29,862 --> 00:15:31,998 is that of 19-year-old Natalie Bollinger. 299 00:15:32,098 --> 00:15:34,033 - Natalie Bollinger's autopsy report says 300 00:15:34,133 --> 00:15:35,635 she was shot in the head. 301 00:15:35,802 --> 00:15:37,570 [somber music] 302 00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:39,572 - I--I...[sighs] 303 00:15:39,672 --> 00:15:41,240 I--I crumbled. 304 00:15:41,340 --> 00:15:43,609 ♪ 305 00:15:43,709 --> 00:15:45,344 - Hi. - Hi. 306 00:15:45,511 --> 00:15:52,552 ♪ 307 00:15:54,220 --> 00:15:55,822 - We are still trying to follow up 308 00:15:55,988 --> 00:15:57,990 on any leads that may be out there 309 00:15:58,090 --> 00:16:03,162 that's going to lead us to--to Natalie's killer. 310 00:16:04,230 --> 00:16:06,766 - The last 26 hours of 19-year-old 311 00:16:06,866 --> 00:16:09,268 Natalie Bollinger's life are a mystery. 312 00:16:09,435 --> 00:16:10,837 ♪ 313 00:16:11,003 --> 00:16:12,972 - We don't have anybody 314 00:16:13,072 --> 00:16:15,875 who was either talking with her 315 00:16:16,042 --> 00:16:18,511 through social media or through text 316 00:16:18,678 --> 00:16:22,148 or in person or on the telephone. 317 00:16:22,315 --> 00:16:26,752 - My gut says that this whole situation is off. 318 00:16:26,853 --> 00:16:30,156 Days after she gets a protection order, 319 00:16:30,256 --> 00:16:31,324 she's killed. 320 00:16:31,424 --> 00:16:33,459 And he is, as far as I know of, 321 00:16:33,626 --> 00:16:37,196 the only person who actually threatened Natalie. 322 00:16:37,296 --> 00:16:39,365 - We have talked to him. 323 00:16:39,465 --> 00:16:43,402 And again, not ready to call anybody a suspect, 324 00:16:43,502 --> 00:16:46,639 but certainly a piece of our investigation-- 325 00:16:46,739 --> 00:16:48,975 a piece of our timeline. 326 00:16:49,075 --> 00:16:50,610 - Social media is swirling with theories 327 00:16:50,710 --> 00:16:51,844 about who killed Natalie. 328 00:16:51,944 --> 00:16:54,080 Some people believe Schwartz did. 329 00:16:54,247 --> 00:16:55,915 He replied on his own Facebook page, 330 00:16:56,015 --> 00:16:58,417 "Stop picking on me. Stop blaming me." 331 00:16:59,385 --> 00:17:01,721 - I should omit the truth and take the punishment. 332 00:17:01,821 --> 00:17:02,989 Is that what you want? 333 00:17:03,089 --> 00:17:04,991 You want to pretend like I'm some monster. 334 00:17:05,157 --> 00:17:08,194 Live or die, this stuff needs to stop. 335 00:17:08,361 --> 00:17:11,230 [tense music] 336 00:17:11,330 --> 00:17:18,304 ♪ 337 00:17:25,645 --> 00:17:27,813 - Shawn Schwartz, 37 years old. 338 00:17:27,914 --> 00:17:29,482 Here's what we know according to the court documents. 339 00:17:29,582 --> 00:17:31,784 I want to be real clear about him. 340 00:17:31,951 --> 00:17:34,987 He'd been making some posts on Facebook that led the police 341 00:17:35,154 --> 00:17:36,789 to conduct that welfare check. 342 00:17:36,889 --> 00:17:38,457 Police ultimately took him to the hospital. 343 00:17:38,624 --> 00:17:39,659 And that's where they allege 344 00:17:39,825 --> 00:17:41,827 that he became combative and violent. 345 00:17:41,994 --> 00:17:43,696 ♪ 346 00:17:43,863 --> 00:17:45,898 And now Shawn Schwartz is facing 347 00:17:46,065 --> 00:17:47,900 assault and resisting arrest. 348 00:17:48,034 --> 00:17:52,004 ♪ 349 00:17:58,511 --> 00:18:03,282 ♪ 350 00:18:03,382 --> 00:18:05,284 - I've been instructed not to speak to y'all. 351 00:18:05,384 --> 00:18:07,353 But I got a few more fingers for you. 352 00:18:08,621 --> 00:18:10,590 - Well, do you know what happened to her? 353 00:18:12,058 --> 00:18:14,126 - No. Do you know who does? 354 00:18:15,161 --> 00:18:16,395 - Tell me. 355 00:18:16,495 --> 00:18:18,431 - How would I know? What happened to Natalie? 356 00:18:18,531 --> 00:18:19,598 What do you guys know? 357 00:18:19,699 --> 00:18:21,634 All I know is from Facebook Messenger. 358 00:18:21,734 --> 00:18:23,235 And I hate Facebook. 359 00:18:23,402 --> 00:18:24,770 - What did Facebook Messenger say? 360 00:18:24,870 --> 00:18:25,871 - It doesn't matter. 361 00:18:26,038 --> 00:18:27,039 You need to get ahold of the police 362 00:18:27,139 --> 00:18:28,641 and talk to them. 363 00:18:28,808 --> 00:18:32,244 ♪ 364 00:18:32,345 --> 00:18:34,347 So they took me to the hospital. 365 00:18:34,513 --> 00:18:36,649 They were telling me that I was on a 72-hour hold 366 00:18:36,749 --> 00:18:38,017 because I was suicidal. 367 00:18:38,184 --> 00:18:39,418 Who the [bleep] wouldn't be? 368 00:18:39,585 --> 00:18:41,520 You guys have been harassing me for a week straight. 369 00:18:41,620 --> 00:18:42,822 My best friend is dead. 370 00:18:42,989 --> 00:18:45,725 I've been blamed for everything from stalking 371 00:18:45,825 --> 00:18:50,196 to rape to child molestation to murder over this. 372 00:18:50,363 --> 00:18:52,064 So when I got out of Boulder County Jail, 373 00:18:52,231 --> 00:18:55,334 they had painted me as some sort of violent animal 374 00:18:55,434 --> 00:18:57,703 on the [bleep] damn news. 375 00:18:57,870 --> 00:19:03,876 ♪ 376 00:19:04,043 --> 00:19:05,144 - God. 377 00:19:05,311 --> 00:19:08,280 - With Shawn Schwartz, we were 98% sure 378 00:19:08,381 --> 00:19:09,715 he had nothing to do with this. 379 00:19:09,882 --> 00:19:11,384 - The time frames weren't adding up 380 00:19:11,550 --> 00:19:13,185 once we got into his cell phone and computer. 381 00:19:13,352 --> 00:19:16,322 There was, like, nothing physical evidence-wise 382 00:19:16,422 --> 00:19:19,458 that was indicating he had any involvement. 383 00:19:19,625 --> 00:19:20,559 ♪ 384 00:19:20,660 --> 00:19:22,828 However, thanks to social media, 385 00:19:22,995 --> 00:19:25,865 that just continued to hamper the case. 386 00:19:26,032 --> 00:19:28,367 ♪ 387 00:19:28,467 --> 00:19:30,436 Their web pages and their groups 388 00:19:30,536 --> 00:19:31,837 and their thoughts and beliefs 389 00:19:32,004 --> 00:19:34,407 and just their constant tips coming in. 390 00:19:34,507 --> 00:19:41,514 ♪ 391 00:19:47,620 --> 00:19:50,823 [tense music] 392 00:19:50,990 --> 00:19:54,760 - I saw a "Justice for Natalie Bollinger" group, 393 00:19:54,860 --> 00:19:56,028 and I joined it. 394 00:19:56,195 --> 00:19:58,364 And there was only probably, like, I'd say, 395 00:19:58,464 --> 00:19:59,665 like, 500 members at the time. 396 00:19:59,832 --> 00:20:00,900 But at the end of the day, 397 00:20:01,067 --> 00:20:03,002 there was 2,000 people in there. 398 00:20:03,169 --> 00:20:04,837 And everyone's speculating, 399 00:20:05,004 --> 00:20:07,039 putting their theories out there, 400 00:20:07,139 --> 00:20:08,841 pointing fingers. 401 00:20:08,941 --> 00:20:11,911 When you start looking at it, I mean, it just-- 402 00:20:12,078 --> 00:20:14,313 there's something that's weird there, you know? 403 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:15,881 You see this post, and you're like, 404 00:20:15,981 --> 00:20:19,218 "This guy did it. We know he did it." 405 00:20:19,385 --> 00:20:21,387 - Back on the day that Natalie went missing, 406 00:20:21,554 --> 00:20:24,457 within three hours, the family was calling in 407 00:20:24,623 --> 00:20:25,624 and reporting her missing. 408 00:20:25,791 --> 00:20:27,927 She was a 19-year-old teenager. 409 00:20:28,027 --> 00:20:30,129 You wouldn't think someone would be surprised 410 00:20:30,229 --> 00:20:32,364 that they're gone for three hours during the day. 411 00:20:32,465 --> 00:20:33,666 ♪ 412 00:20:33,833 --> 00:20:35,401 - But if you look at it from the flip side, 413 00:20:35,568 --> 00:20:37,870 if you wanted to do harm to Natalie Bollinger 414 00:20:38,037 --> 00:20:39,905 and you found out she had a protective order 415 00:20:40,072 --> 00:20:42,441 against someone else, isn't that a good opportunity? 416 00:20:42,608 --> 00:20:43,642 Or am I reaching? 417 00:20:43,776 --> 00:20:45,044 ♪ 418 00:20:45,144 --> 00:20:46,946 - That is a great point. 419 00:20:55,521 --> 00:20:56,555 - We're gonna look at everybody 420 00:20:56,722 --> 00:20:59,325 that has those immediate close ties. 421 00:21:05,131 --> 00:21:06,832 - He was cooperative with us the whole time. 422 00:21:06,999 --> 00:21:10,336 Luckily for us that his business had video cameras, 423 00:21:10,436 --> 00:21:13,005 so we were able to actually see him working 424 00:21:13,105 --> 00:21:14,373 when he said he was working. 425 00:21:14,473 --> 00:21:16,208 - His phone's pinging over there. 426 00:21:16,308 --> 00:21:18,711 We were able to clear him pretty quick. 427 00:21:18,878 --> 00:21:20,813 ♪ 428 00:21:20,913 --> 00:21:22,681 - You could see that, like, emotionally, 429 00:21:22,782 --> 00:21:24,750 he had just lost everything. 430 00:21:24,917 --> 00:21:26,118 You know, his significant other. 431 00:21:26,218 --> 00:21:28,187 His soon-to-be wife, so to speak, 432 00:21:28,354 --> 00:21:31,423 is now dead and been murdered. 433 00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:32,992 - He was a victim in this too. 434 00:21:33,092 --> 00:21:35,161 ♪ 435 00:21:42,034 --> 00:21:44,904 [tense music] 436 00:21:45,070 --> 00:21:49,441 ♪ 437 00:21:49,542 --> 00:21:50,910 - There was a vehicle 438 00:21:51,076 --> 00:21:52,945 with a group of people known to one another. 439 00:21:53,112 --> 00:21:55,881 One of them ended up feeling disrespected, 440 00:21:55,981 --> 00:21:58,517 ended up shooting someone in the back of that vehicle, 441 00:21:58,617 --> 00:22:02,154 dumping them out as the vehicle drove away. 442 00:22:02,321 --> 00:22:04,824 It was very clear from some of the witnesses 443 00:22:04,990 --> 00:22:08,761 that a very caring person in a vehicle in this shooting 444 00:22:08,861 --> 00:22:11,263 had stuck their head out and was looking back 445 00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:13,632 to see if this person was okay, 446 00:22:13,799 --> 00:22:16,402 and the description fit Natalie to a T. 447 00:22:16,569 --> 00:22:17,703 - Yeah. 448 00:22:17,870 --> 00:22:20,039 - So we had shown pictures of Natalie 449 00:22:20,139 --> 00:22:21,840 to a witness to it, 450 00:22:22,007 --> 00:22:24,009 and they were like, "Oh, yeah, that was her. 451 00:22:24,109 --> 00:22:25,878 She was there." 452 00:22:25,978 --> 00:22:27,246 ♪ 453 00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:28,814 - Have a seat there for me. 454 00:22:34,587 --> 00:22:40,392 I want to hear from Markell what happened. 455 00:22:42,161 --> 00:22:49,134 ♪ 456 00:22:52,271 --> 00:22:53,272 - You don't know who that is? 457 00:22:53,439 --> 00:22:55,040 - No. Do you guys have a picture? 458 00:22:58,077 --> 00:22:59,912 Yeah, I don't know her. 459 00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:00,913 I don't know her. 460 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,214 Yeah, no, I don't know. 461 00:23:03,349 --> 00:23:04,250 - She goes down. 462 00:23:04,350 --> 00:23:05,384 You're getting out of there. 463 00:23:05,551 --> 00:23:06,785 - Hit Riverdale. - You hit Riverdale. 464 00:23:06,952 --> 00:23:08,153 What happens then, bro? 465 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,355 - I probably flipped it, then came back, 466 00:23:09,455 --> 00:23:10,923 'cause I remember driving right by here. 467 00:23:11,023 --> 00:23:12,658 - Well, that road goes down to the dairy, 468 00:23:12,825 --> 00:23:13,959 the McIntosh Dairy. 469 00:23:14,059 --> 00:23:15,761 So we know more happened down there. 470 00:23:16,862 --> 00:23:19,031 - We thought they were trying to cover it up, 471 00:23:19,198 --> 00:23:21,967 that maybe they had killed her as a witness to this thing. 472 00:23:22,067 --> 00:23:25,037 - There is another woman 473 00:23:25,204 --> 00:23:29,675 that was shot off of Riverdale. 474 00:23:29,842 --> 00:23:32,711 I want you to finally come clean with what you saw. 475 00:23:32,878 --> 00:23:34,079 - I don't know what you think you know, 476 00:23:34,179 --> 00:23:35,447 but I'd put that on my daughter's heartbeat. 477 00:23:35,547 --> 00:23:38,150 I don't know any girl that got shot. 478 00:23:38,250 --> 00:23:40,152 I don't know about any girl that got shot. 479 00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:42,922 - You were there Thursday night, Friday morning? 480 00:23:43,022 --> 00:23:44,390 - Mm-hmm. 481 00:23:44,490 --> 00:23:47,660 - Midday Friday, we find the body. 482 00:23:47,826 --> 00:23:48,961 - No. 483 00:23:49,061 --> 00:23:50,996 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 484 00:23:51,096 --> 00:23:53,432 I don't know who that is. 485 00:23:53,532 --> 00:23:55,000 - Then why is her body 486 00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:58,637 where you said you turned around, 487 00:23:58,804 --> 00:24:01,807 and she's been positively ID'd as being in your car? 488 00:24:01,907 --> 00:24:03,575 - Sir, I'm not lying to you. 489 00:24:03,676 --> 00:24:05,311 - I just want to figure this out, 490 00:24:05,477 --> 00:24:06,879 because this girl's got a family... 491 00:24:07,046 --> 00:24:07,946 - I'm not getting-- 492 00:24:08,113 --> 00:24:09,148 - Who's trying to figure out 493 00:24:09,315 --> 00:24:11,183 what happened to their family member. 494 00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:13,085 ♪ 495 00:24:23,195 --> 00:24:25,998 - We were kind of, like, on the brink of solving it. 496 00:24:26,098 --> 00:24:27,633 We were like, okay, we've got this thing 497 00:24:27,733 --> 00:24:29,601 with Arvada solved, this shooting, 498 00:24:29,768 --> 00:24:32,438 and possibly, Natalie's there. 499 00:24:32,538 --> 00:24:33,639 ♪ 500 00:24:33,806 --> 00:24:36,842 And it just completely fell apart. 501 00:24:36,942 --> 00:24:38,243 ♪ 502 00:24:44,550 --> 00:24:46,352 - Ms. Esquivel was able to tell me 503 00:24:46,452 --> 00:24:49,088 who this other person was. 504 00:25:06,271 --> 00:25:07,840 - We looked into it more 505 00:25:07,940 --> 00:25:12,745 and found Ms. Chavez looked just like Natalie. 506 00:25:12,911 --> 00:25:13,746 ♪ 507 00:25:13,912 --> 00:25:15,214 Very, very similar features. 508 00:25:15,314 --> 00:25:17,416 Very similar height. 509 00:25:23,789 --> 00:25:25,657 - Ultimately, Ms. Chavez, 510 00:25:25,824 --> 00:25:27,793 she was the one that had stuck her head out 511 00:25:27,893 --> 00:25:29,228 and was looking at this person 512 00:25:29,395 --> 00:25:32,464 and had nothing whatsoever to do with this case. 513 00:25:32,631 --> 00:25:34,967 - It's almost like a mistaken identity kind of 514 00:25:35,067 --> 00:25:37,603 led them to think that they were helping us out. 515 00:25:37,770 --> 00:25:39,805 Ultimately, it had nothing to do with our case. 516 00:25:39,905 --> 00:25:42,274 But we ended up helping them with theirs. 517 00:25:42,441 --> 00:25:44,643 In the end, we're like, "Here you go, Arvada. 518 00:25:44,810 --> 00:25:46,345 We just solved your case for you." 519 00:25:46,512 --> 00:25:47,646 And they're like, "Cool, thanks. We're out." 520 00:25:47,746 --> 00:25:49,048 - "Thanks. We're out of here." Yeah. 521 00:25:49,148 --> 00:25:50,949 - And then we were back to square one again. 522 00:25:51,116 --> 00:25:52,718 - It was devastating. 523 00:25:52,818 --> 00:25:55,154 ♪ 524 00:25:58,624 --> 00:26:00,659 In this entire time, the phone company 525 00:26:00,826 --> 00:26:03,062 still was not giving us the records. 526 00:26:03,228 --> 00:26:05,164 They have, I think-- what is it, 30 days to comply? 527 00:26:05,264 --> 00:26:07,032 - Yeah. Very frustrating. 528 00:26:07,132 --> 00:26:10,002 [tense music] 529 00:26:10,102 --> 00:26:14,039 ♪ 530 00:26:14,139 --> 00:26:16,442 - Immediately, we saw that she was communicating 531 00:26:16,542 --> 00:26:17,876 with a phone number that was not listed 532 00:26:18,043 --> 00:26:19,878 on any of her contacts. 533 00:26:19,978 --> 00:26:23,882 There was 111 text messages back and forth between them 534 00:26:23,982 --> 00:26:26,418 that started up about 5:00 in the morning 535 00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:30,022 on the day she went missing until right around noon. 536 00:26:30,189 --> 00:26:31,990 And then there's just absolutely 537 00:26:32,157 --> 00:26:33,959 zero communication after that. 538 00:26:34,059 --> 00:26:41,066 ♪ 539 00:26:46,638 --> 00:26:47,840 - The first time I ever saw him, 540 00:26:48,006 --> 00:26:49,174 I parked down the street from his house 541 00:26:49,274 --> 00:26:50,576 just to kind of do some surveillance 542 00:26:50,676 --> 00:26:52,744 and see what he was doing. 543 00:26:52,911 --> 00:26:57,416 He was just such a meek, kind of nerdy person. 544 00:26:57,516 --> 00:26:58,550 - No criminal history. 545 00:26:58,717 --> 00:26:59,751 He had a seat belt ticket... 546 00:26:59,852 --> 00:27:01,920 - [laughs] Yeah. - Was all he had. 547 00:27:02,020 --> 00:27:03,722 - He worked at Domino's Pizza, 548 00:27:03,822 --> 00:27:05,557 and he had called in sick for, like, 549 00:27:05,657 --> 00:27:09,228 two or three straight days after Natalie's death. 550 00:27:09,394 --> 00:27:10,395 - Which his manager said 551 00:27:10,496 --> 00:27:13,165 was very, like, unusual for him. 552 00:27:13,265 --> 00:27:14,466 ♪ 553 00:27:14,633 --> 00:27:15,968 - I got my glasses, 554 00:27:16,068 --> 00:27:17,636 so I can see what I'm saying here. 555 00:27:17,803 --> 00:27:18,670 - [laughs] 556 00:27:18,837 --> 00:27:23,809 ♪ 557 00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:25,344 - All right, thank you for coming here, all right? 558 00:27:25,511 --> 00:27:26,712 You know, we're just going down the list here, though. 559 00:27:26,879 --> 00:27:28,113 You know what I mean? 560 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,848 So--and unfortunately, your number was there. 561 00:27:29,948 --> 00:27:31,683 So yeah, that's why we had to come in and talk to you. 562 00:27:31,783 --> 00:27:32,784 You're free to leave at any time. 563 00:27:32,951 --> 00:27:34,386 You know that, right? - Yes. 564 00:27:34,553 --> 00:27:36,788 So what I'm thinking this is all about 565 00:27:36,955 --> 00:27:40,192 is someone I was talking to over on Craigslist. 566 00:27:40,292 --> 00:27:43,595 I was just on there, you know, looking for, like, pen pals. 567 00:27:43,695 --> 00:27:44,730 - And who would that be? 568 00:27:44,830 --> 00:27:46,965 - I don't know her name. I never asked. 569 00:27:47,065 --> 00:27:50,202 But what drew me to what she had posted 570 00:27:50,369 --> 00:27:53,472 was--it was very, uh, weird. 571 00:27:53,639 --> 00:27:55,107 - Do you recall kind of what that said 572 00:27:55,274 --> 00:27:56,642 that got your attention? 573 00:27:56,808 --> 00:27:58,310 - Well, the title itself just said, 574 00:27:58,477 --> 00:28:01,013 "I'm thinking about putting a hit on myself." 575 00:28:01,113 --> 00:28:02,014 [ominous music] 576 00:28:02,114 --> 00:28:03,448 - Really? 577 00:28:03,549 --> 00:28:04,650 "I'm thinking about putting a hit on myself"? 578 00:28:04,750 --> 00:28:05,984 - I believe that's what it said. 579 00:28:06,151 --> 00:28:07,219 - Damn. 580 00:28:07,386 --> 00:28:08,787 ♪ 581 00:28:08,954 --> 00:28:12,190 - So my first thought was, okay, well, 582 00:28:12,291 --> 00:28:13,992 someone obviously needs help 583 00:28:14,092 --> 00:28:15,194 and hasn't been getting the help that they need. 584 00:28:15,294 --> 00:28:16,194 - Sure. 585 00:28:16,295 --> 00:28:17,396 - I suffer from depression, 586 00:28:17,563 --> 00:28:19,765 and I've tried to kill myself a few times. 587 00:28:19,865 --> 00:28:21,800 And I ended up in a mental hospital because of it, and... 588 00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:23,001 - Wow. - You know, 589 00:28:23,101 --> 00:28:25,137 being the type of person that I am, you know, 590 00:28:25,270 --> 00:28:27,639 I will do anything to help someone 591 00:28:27,806 --> 00:28:30,642 at least stay alive. - Absolutely. 592 00:28:30,809 --> 00:28:31,843 - You know, my first thought was, 593 00:28:31,944 --> 00:28:33,679 I really want to help this girl. 594 00:28:33,845 --> 00:28:36,648 So after a little bit, I was like, 595 00:28:36,748 --> 00:28:38,283 you know, I'm not getting anywhere. 596 00:28:38,483 --> 00:28:40,752 You know, let's see if I can convince her 597 00:28:40,919 --> 00:28:43,956 to meet up with me and see what happens. 598 00:28:44,056 --> 00:28:47,960 So I acted as though I was responding to her ad. 599 00:28:48,060 --> 00:28:49,561 - What was she asking you in those texts? 600 00:28:49,661 --> 00:28:51,396 - She was asking me, like, 601 00:28:51,563 --> 00:28:53,031 you know, how do you want to do it? 602 00:28:53,131 --> 00:28:54,466 Where do you want to go and stuff? 603 00:28:54,633 --> 00:28:58,003 And I didn't really give her an answer, you know. 604 00:28:58,170 --> 00:29:00,238 It was just real general 'cause, you know, 605 00:29:00,405 --> 00:29:02,608 I wasn't really thinking about it, you know. 606 00:29:02,708 --> 00:29:04,977 I convinced her to, you know, meet up with me. 607 00:29:05,077 --> 00:29:06,511 So I went to her place, and I picked her up, 608 00:29:06,678 --> 00:29:08,046 and we went for a drive. 609 00:29:08,146 --> 00:29:09,948 And during that drive, I--you know, 610 00:29:10,115 --> 00:29:11,917 I wanted to learn what was going on 611 00:29:12,017 --> 00:29:13,352 and what was going on with her life 612 00:29:13,452 --> 00:29:15,587 and why she was so depressed and sad, 613 00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:18,557 and she's just real quiet and timid, you know? 614 00:29:18,690 --> 00:29:21,827 And I don't want to, you know, force her to talk too much 615 00:29:21,994 --> 00:29:26,498 because, you know, then it kind of gives away 616 00:29:26,665 --> 00:29:28,200 what I'm actually trying to do, you know? 617 00:29:28,300 --> 00:29:29,635 - What did she think you were there for? 618 00:29:29,801 --> 00:29:31,603 - She thought I was replying to the ad. 619 00:29:31,703 --> 00:29:33,171 - In what--in what way? 620 00:29:33,272 --> 00:29:36,441 - Like, she thought I was going to be the one to do it. 621 00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:40,045 - To take her out? 622 00:29:40,145 --> 00:29:43,315 [dramatic music] 623 00:29:43,482 --> 00:29:45,484 - We drove around for a little bit-- 624 00:29:45,584 --> 00:29:47,119 you know, like, two or three hours. 625 00:29:47,219 --> 00:29:48,120 I can't remember exactly. 626 00:29:48,220 --> 00:29:49,354 And we just talked. 627 00:29:49,454 --> 00:29:50,555 Eventually, I think 628 00:29:50,656 --> 00:29:52,758 she either got fed up with me, you know, 629 00:29:52,858 --> 00:29:55,360 'cause I guess she was pretty serious 630 00:29:55,460 --> 00:29:56,595 about what was going on. 631 00:29:56,695 --> 00:29:59,031 And, you know, there was nothing much more 632 00:29:59,131 --> 00:30:00,032 we could talk about. 633 00:30:00,132 --> 00:30:01,867 And we went back in the direction 634 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,402 where she was living. 635 00:30:12,878 --> 00:30:17,082 ♪ 636 00:30:22,721 --> 00:30:23,955 - You said you're a smoker. 637 00:30:24,056 --> 00:30:25,557 Do you want to take a quick break, 638 00:30:25,657 --> 00:30:26,558 go out and smoke? 639 00:30:26,658 --> 00:30:28,126 - I would love one. 640 00:30:28,226 --> 00:30:29,328 ♪ 641 00:30:29,428 --> 00:30:30,796 - Because we didn't have enough 642 00:30:30,896 --> 00:30:32,064 to say he was a suspect, 643 00:30:32,230 --> 00:30:33,498 we actually didn't read him his rights. 644 00:30:33,665 --> 00:30:35,233 And it wasn't until we started speaking to him 645 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,803 and he starts admitting that he was at her house 646 00:30:37,969 --> 00:30:39,004 and he picked her up 647 00:30:39,171 --> 00:30:40,439 and then he was driving her around-- 648 00:30:40,605 --> 00:30:41,973 it was kind of at that point where we're like, 649 00:30:42,074 --> 00:30:44,776 hey, we need to take a break, Mirandize this guy. 650 00:30:44,876 --> 00:30:47,512 ♪ 651 00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:48,847 - Did you get your cigarette? 652 00:30:48,947 --> 00:30:50,248 - Yes, I did. 653 00:30:50,348 --> 00:30:51,950 - So you should understand your rights. 654 00:30:52,117 --> 00:30:52,951 You have the right to remain silent. 655 00:30:53,118 --> 00:30:53,985 Anything you say 656 00:30:54,152 --> 00:30:55,554 can be used against you in court. 657 00:30:55,721 --> 00:30:57,356 You have the right to talk to an attorney for advice 658 00:30:57,456 --> 00:30:58,690 before I ask you any questions. 659 00:30:58,790 --> 00:31:00,559 If you cannot afford an attorney, 660 00:31:00,659 --> 00:31:03,028 one will be provided for you before any questioning. 661 00:31:03,195 --> 00:31:04,362 - Okay. - And do you understand 662 00:31:04,463 --> 00:31:06,198 each of your rights? - Yes. 663 00:31:06,364 --> 00:31:07,566 ♪ 664 00:31:07,666 --> 00:31:10,535 - How long were you guys communicating on Craigslist? 665 00:31:10,635 --> 00:31:13,238 - I know it was really early in the morning. 666 00:31:13,405 --> 00:31:14,272 - That same day? 667 00:31:14,439 --> 00:31:15,440 - Yeah. 668 00:31:15,607 --> 00:31:18,643 - So you have no contact with her before? 669 00:31:18,744 --> 00:31:20,812 This was just--[claps] And it just kind of went? 670 00:31:20,912 --> 00:31:23,048 - Yeah. - Wow. Okay. 671 00:31:23,148 --> 00:31:24,282 - So during that whole time talking, 672 00:31:24,449 --> 00:31:25,984 did she ever tell you her name or anything? 673 00:31:26,151 --> 00:31:28,720 - I never asked. - Okay. 674 00:31:28,820 --> 00:31:31,523 - I initially went in you know, thinking, you know, 675 00:31:31,623 --> 00:31:34,359 I just want to talk to her, you know, see what's going on, 676 00:31:34,459 --> 00:31:35,861 find out what exactly is happening. 677 00:31:36,027 --> 00:31:38,130 But I knew if the way I worded it, 678 00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:39,564 she wouldn't talk to me at all. 679 00:31:39,664 --> 00:31:41,366 - Talk about how, what you're talking to her about, 680 00:31:41,466 --> 00:31:43,402 because she thinks you're legit because you're probably-- 681 00:31:43,568 --> 00:31:44,803 you're feeding into it. - Mm-hmm. 682 00:31:44,970 --> 00:31:46,438 - Talk about how you're feeding into it. 683 00:31:46,605 --> 00:31:52,177 - So I mainly ask her what, like, her plan would be 684 00:31:52,277 --> 00:31:56,314 and how she wanted it to go. 685 00:31:56,481 --> 00:31:57,482 - And what is she saying when you say, 686 00:31:57,582 --> 00:31:59,151 "How do you want to do it?" 687 00:31:59,317 --> 00:32:01,620 - That's when she tells me that she was thinking about 688 00:32:01,787 --> 00:32:03,955 just doing it execution style, you know. 689 00:32:04,055 --> 00:32:05,323 She doesn't want to see it. 690 00:32:05,424 --> 00:32:08,393 ♪ 691 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,861 - Do you own any guns? - No. 692 00:32:10,028 --> 00:32:11,396 - Okay. So then you let her know that. 693 00:32:11,563 --> 00:32:12,931 And then she says, "I have a gun"? 694 00:32:13,031 --> 00:32:14,232 Was that-- 695 00:32:14,332 --> 00:32:17,803 - Well, I told her that I wouldn't be able 696 00:32:17,903 --> 00:32:19,771 to get one anytime soon. 697 00:32:19,871 --> 00:32:21,706 And that's when she brought it up. 698 00:32:21,873 --> 00:32:23,909 - She said she had one? - Mm-hmm. 699 00:32:24,075 --> 00:32:25,811 She starts asking about, like, 700 00:32:25,911 --> 00:32:27,813 how much it would cost, you know? 701 00:32:27,913 --> 00:32:29,314 And I'm like, "Well, usually, 702 00:32:29,481 --> 00:32:31,650 "it's, like, hundreds to thousands of dollars 703 00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:34,319 or things that can be sold for, you know, value." 704 00:32:34,419 --> 00:32:35,687 - Yeah. 705 00:32:35,787 --> 00:32:37,622 - And she says, "You know, the gun's worth money." 706 00:32:37,789 --> 00:32:39,024 ♪ 707 00:32:39,191 --> 00:32:41,193 So, you know, I went along with the role, 708 00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:44,396 because I'm a very-- 709 00:32:44,496 --> 00:32:46,264 - What does that mean, you went along with the role? 710 00:32:46,431 --> 00:32:48,633 - I'm a very avid role player online. 711 00:32:48,733 --> 00:32:50,402 - How do you go about 712 00:32:50,502 --> 00:32:51,803 taking the persona of a hit man, though? 713 00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:52,971 How do you take that role on? 714 00:32:53,071 --> 00:32:55,073 - It really fascinates me as a writer. 715 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,009 I have a character that's for the horror genre. 716 00:32:58,109 --> 00:32:59,511 His name is Aki. 717 00:32:59,678 --> 00:33:01,746 He's also just a psycho. 718 00:33:01,913 --> 00:33:04,249 You know, like, he'll lure you in, and that's-- 719 00:33:04,349 --> 00:33:05,250 - Bam. - Yeah 720 00:33:05,383 --> 00:33:06,618 - All right. 721 00:33:06,785 --> 00:33:08,153 - My last year in high school, 722 00:33:08,253 --> 00:33:11,356 I was, you know, writing down a rough draft for something 723 00:33:11,523 --> 00:33:12,958 I wanted to experiment on. - Yeah. 724 00:33:13,058 --> 00:33:14,192 - And I left it in class, 725 00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:15,527 and it ended up getting me in trouble 726 00:33:15,627 --> 00:33:17,762 'cause they thought that I was actually 727 00:33:17,863 --> 00:33:19,397 going to hurt someone. 728 00:33:19,498 --> 00:33:21,366 - Oh, that's interesting, man. 729 00:33:21,466 --> 00:33:23,401 What would make you get in trouble? 730 00:33:23,502 --> 00:33:26,638 - Well, it was basically like a journal entry, 731 00:33:26,805 --> 00:33:28,240 like "dear diary." 732 00:33:28,340 --> 00:33:29,708 ♪ 733 00:33:29,875 --> 00:33:31,843 "I've been stalking this person for this long, 734 00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:34,679 and these are what my plans for that person is." 735 00:33:34,779 --> 00:33:37,282 It was, like, kidnapping and then, eventually, 736 00:33:37,449 --> 00:33:40,352 you know, murder after torture, just because this person 737 00:33:40,518 --> 00:33:42,554 was supposed to be extremely psychotic. 738 00:33:42,721 --> 00:33:43,922 ♪ 739 00:33:44,022 --> 00:33:45,490 - He had all these alter egos 740 00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:47,559 that he went into great detail telling me about 741 00:33:47,659 --> 00:33:50,962 that were killing and raping and torturing women. 742 00:33:51,062 --> 00:33:54,299 And it was at the point where we continued on 743 00:33:54,466 --> 00:33:56,968 just confronting him with new stuff. 744 00:33:57,068 --> 00:33:59,037 - How long do you think she's in your car? 745 00:33:59,204 --> 00:34:02,073 - Maybe 2 1/2, 3 hours-ish. 746 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,475 - Okay, so you guys are cruising around 747 00:34:03,642 --> 00:34:04,643 for a good bit-- amount of time, right? 748 00:34:04,743 --> 00:34:05,644 - Good bit amount of time. 749 00:34:05,744 --> 00:34:07,879 ♪ 750 00:34:07,979 --> 00:34:09,114 - Did you take the highway 751 00:34:09,281 --> 00:34:10,548 the same way to get her back home? 752 00:34:10,715 --> 00:34:11,917 - No. 753 00:34:12,117 --> 00:34:17,122 I used my GPS to take side roads back up. 754 00:34:17,222 --> 00:34:18,556 And then I just went to work. 755 00:34:24,596 --> 00:34:27,032 - So you had your phone with you the whole time, right? 756 00:34:27,132 --> 00:34:28,199 - Yes. 757 00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:29,601 - Nobody ever used your phone? - No. 758 00:34:29,768 --> 00:34:30,602 - Just you, right? - Just me. 759 00:34:30,769 --> 00:34:32,604 - Okay. 760 00:34:32,704 --> 00:34:35,240 We have mapped out, basically, right here 761 00:34:35,340 --> 00:34:36,241 what he's holding right there. 762 00:34:36,341 --> 00:34:38,777 He'll show you. 763 00:34:38,877 --> 00:34:42,247 - The GPS coordinates show him leaving his house. 764 00:34:42,347 --> 00:34:45,216 It pings right up to Natalie's apartment. 765 00:34:45,317 --> 00:34:46,785 It drives around. 766 00:34:46,952 --> 00:34:48,353 And then eventually, 767 00:34:48,453 --> 00:34:51,189 within, I believe, 5 yards of accuracy, 768 00:34:51,356 --> 00:34:53,458 he's at the murder scene. 769 00:34:53,625 --> 00:34:56,795 - So your phone's going and pinging off these towers. 770 00:34:56,962 --> 00:34:59,331 It shows us that you went to 116th and Riverdale. 771 00:34:59,431 --> 00:35:02,467 - I want to tell you, she was found at 116th and Riverdale, 772 00:35:02,634 --> 00:35:03,835 in that area. 773 00:35:04,002 --> 00:35:05,036 - We were just starting to catch him 774 00:35:05,203 --> 00:35:07,706 in lie after lie after lie. 775 00:35:07,872 --> 00:35:09,240 - We're here to try to figure out 776 00:35:09,407 --> 00:35:10,642 what happened to her, all right? 777 00:35:10,809 --> 00:35:12,877 - Mm-hmm. - And I think that you know. 778 00:35:13,044 --> 00:35:15,880 There's some things I think you're leaving out, bro, okay? 779 00:35:15,981 --> 00:35:18,917 And I just ask right now that you just come forward, bro, 780 00:35:19,084 --> 00:35:21,086 and you get everything off your chest, okay? 781 00:35:21,186 --> 00:35:23,388 Get everything--get it all out right now, buddy. 782 00:35:25,256 --> 00:35:26,791 - [clears throat] 783 00:35:26,958 --> 00:35:28,426 - Take your time, man. 784 00:35:31,229 --> 00:35:34,566 - At some point, she just got really frustrated. 785 00:35:34,666 --> 00:35:36,835 She told me to pull over and... 786 00:35:37,002 --> 00:35:40,005 [sniffling] 787 00:35:49,481 --> 00:35:50,682 - What happened? 788 00:35:50,782 --> 00:35:53,718 [tense music] 789 00:35:53,818 --> 00:35:59,524 ♪ 790 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,795 And I freaked out. 791 00:36:08,466 --> 00:36:10,668 - So obviously, we're gonna want to talk now 792 00:36:10,835 --> 00:36:12,570 about how it really went, okay? 793 00:36:12,670 --> 00:36:16,041 ♪ 794 00:36:21,279 --> 00:36:23,214 - Now, what's truth and what was not truth? 795 00:36:23,314 --> 00:36:24,749 Okay? Let's start there. 796 00:36:24,916 --> 00:36:26,051 ♪ 797 00:36:26,151 --> 00:36:29,120 - So we did drive around for a little bit. 798 00:36:29,220 --> 00:36:34,125 You know, she was looking for places to do it-- 799 00:36:34,225 --> 00:36:37,996 you know, for me to--to kill her. 800 00:36:38,163 --> 00:36:39,397 She just gets out of my car. 801 00:36:39,497 --> 00:36:41,466 And I get out, and I start talking to her. 802 00:36:41,633 --> 00:36:44,202 But she's over by the tree. 803 00:36:44,369 --> 00:36:46,004 - I want you to get down and actually show me, bro, 804 00:36:46,171 --> 00:36:47,205 because I was not there. 805 00:36:47,305 --> 00:36:49,674 You were the only one that was there. 806 00:36:49,841 --> 00:36:51,609 - So she's like this for a little bit 807 00:36:51,710 --> 00:36:53,178 while I'm trying to talk to her. 808 00:36:53,278 --> 00:36:57,682 I'm not too far from her, and I'm maybe like this, 809 00:36:57,782 --> 00:36:58,917 pretty close to her, you know. 810 00:36:59,017 --> 00:37:00,351 I was just trying to talk her out of it. 811 00:37:00,518 --> 00:37:02,520 And she shoots herself 812 00:37:02,620 --> 00:37:04,422 before I can try to reach and grab the gun. 813 00:37:04,589 --> 00:37:05,757 [gunshot echoing] 814 00:37:05,924 --> 00:37:07,792 ♪ 815 00:37:07,959 --> 00:37:10,228 - You say the gun was like this? 816 00:37:10,395 --> 00:37:11,262 Or how? 817 00:37:11,429 --> 00:37:12,530 - She just sat down, 818 00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:16,367 and she put it like this, and then she fired. 819 00:37:16,468 --> 00:37:19,404 - The coroners told us that it wasn't a contact wound. 820 00:37:19,571 --> 00:37:20,738 She couldn't have shot herself. 821 00:37:20,839 --> 00:37:21,973 And we were like, "You said you watch 822 00:37:22,073 --> 00:37:24,008 'The First 48 Hours' all the time." 823 00:37:24,109 --> 00:37:26,077 I said, "So you know if we're asking questions, 824 00:37:26,244 --> 00:37:28,680 we already know the answer." 825 00:37:28,780 --> 00:37:30,048 - The autopsy shows that 826 00:37:30,148 --> 00:37:31,883 the gun was at least 3 feet away. 827 00:37:31,983 --> 00:37:33,451 So we know that didn't happen. 828 00:37:33,551 --> 00:37:35,754 She didn't shoot herself. 829 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,556 Did she give you the gun 830 00:37:38,723 --> 00:37:40,492 when you guys were kneeling down? 831 00:37:40,592 --> 00:37:42,227 ♪ 832 00:37:42,393 --> 00:37:43,561 - Let it out, bro. 833 00:37:43,661 --> 00:37:44,796 - You got to get it off your chest, man. 834 00:37:44,896 --> 00:37:46,164 - Get it out. 835 00:37:46,264 --> 00:37:47,432 Get it out. 836 00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:48,833 - Did she ask you to do it? 837 00:37:48,933 --> 00:37:50,602 Or what did she say, man? 838 00:37:50,702 --> 00:37:53,338 - She was begging. 839 00:37:53,438 --> 00:37:55,073 - For you to do it? 840 00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:58,376 - [crying] 841 00:37:58,476 --> 00:38:01,479 [somber music] 842 00:38:01,646 --> 00:38:03,214 - Where's the gun? 843 00:38:03,314 --> 00:38:04,282 - It's outside. 844 00:38:04,449 --> 00:38:05,984 - Is it in your car? 845 00:38:06,151 --> 00:38:07,385 - It's in my trunk. 846 00:38:07,552 --> 00:38:09,087 ♪ 847 00:38:09,187 --> 00:38:10,822 - Her purse and everything there too? 848 00:38:10,989 --> 00:38:13,391 - Her bag's still there, yeah. - Okay. 849 00:38:13,558 --> 00:38:14,859 - Eventually, I just, you know-- 850 00:38:15,026 --> 00:38:17,195 I didn't want it to affect me anymore. 851 00:38:17,362 --> 00:38:19,764 So I decided just to forget about it. 852 00:38:19,864 --> 00:38:24,602 ♪ 853 00:38:24,702 --> 00:38:26,271 [tense music] 854 00:38:26,437 --> 00:38:27,772 - Well, nobody saw this coming. 855 00:38:27,872 --> 00:38:29,641 Police did not arrest Shawn Schwartz, 856 00:38:29,741 --> 00:38:31,042 that man who had the restraining order 857 00:38:31,142 --> 00:38:32,310 taken out on him. 858 00:38:32,477 --> 00:38:34,445 But they did arrest somebody else, 859 00:38:34,546 --> 00:38:36,314 and now they have charged that somebody else 860 00:38:36,481 --> 00:38:39,083 with the murder of Natalie Bollinger. 861 00:38:39,184 --> 00:38:41,686 - The sheriff says they developed Lopez as a suspect 862 00:38:41,786 --> 00:38:44,355 as a result of "mining Natalie's social media 863 00:38:44,455 --> 00:38:46,691 and phone records." 864 00:38:46,791 --> 00:38:48,726 - Lopez says he contacted Natalie 865 00:38:48,826 --> 00:38:50,762 after seeing a Craigslist ad titled 866 00:38:50,862 --> 00:38:52,130 something to the effect of, 867 00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:54,132 "I want to put a hit on myself." 868 00:38:54,232 --> 00:38:56,467 It states he used a fake hit man persona, 869 00:38:56,634 --> 00:38:59,737 and he agreed to meet her and kill her with her own gun 870 00:38:59,838 --> 00:39:01,406 execution style. 871 00:39:01,506 --> 00:39:03,575 ♪ 872 00:39:03,675 --> 00:39:05,243 - Detective Peterson let me know 873 00:39:05,410 --> 00:39:08,079 that they had caught the person responsible for this. 874 00:39:09,514 --> 00:39:11,950 And he got real, real serious, 875 00:39:12,116 --> 00:39:14,786 and he said, "Do you think that she 876 00:39:14,953 --> 00:39:16,521 would have... 877 00:39:17,856 --> 00:39:20,925 Posted an ad or something along those lines? 878 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,797 And so I just was kind of like... 879 00:39:27,232 --> 00:39:28,099 "Maybe." 880 00:39:28,266 --> 00:39:29,701 ♪ 881 00:39:29,868 --> 00:39:33,404 You replay life while you're grieving. 882 00:39:33,571 --> 00:39:34,973 Conversations 883 00:39:35,073 --> 00:39:38,109 and should have, could have, would have. 884 00:39:38,276 --> 00:39:39,611 She struggled a lot, you know? 885 00:39:39,711 --> 00:39:41,412 She took a lot on. 886 00:39:41,512 --> 00:39:45,416 But she was definitely taken advantage of. 887 00:39:45,516 --> 00:39:52,323 ♪ 888 00:39:52,423 --> 00:39:53,524 - It was posted. 889 00:39:53,625 --> 00:39:55,927 He answered it two minutes later. 890 00:39:56,027 --> 00:39:58,329 And then, like, two minutes after he answered it, 891 00:39:58,429 --> 00:39:59,797 somebody had saw it and reported it, 892 00:39:59,898 --> 00:40:01,299 and it was taken down. 893 00:40:01,466 --> 00:40:04,535 So literally, like, within that two-minute time frame 894 00:40:04,636 --> 00:40:07,538 made the whole difference in this entire thing. 895 00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:10,241 There was no questioning of why do you want to do this 896 00:40:10,341 --> 00:40:11,709 or what's going on. 897 00:40:11,876 --> 00:40:14,078 Instantly, it was, "Oh, yeah, I'm a hit man. 898 00:40:14,245 --> 00:40:15,880 "I do this. This is my price. 899 00:40:16,047 --> 00:40:17,882 This is what I normally charge." 900 00:40:17,982 --> 00:40:21,352 And it was eerily kind of a fantasy in that journal 901 00:40:21,452 --> 00:40:23,922 that he had ever since he was in high school. 902 00:40:24,022 --> 00:40:27,558 - This was a desire of his to do for a long time. 903 00:40:27,725 --> 00:40:29,794 ♪ 904 00:40:29,894 --> 00:40:31,996 - We'll never know-- wouldn't be able to prove it-- 905 00:40:32,096 --> 00:40:34,766 but I definitely think Natalie 906 00:40:34,866 --> 00:40:36,467 would have accepted help if somebody would have 907 00:40:36,634 --> 00:40:38,169 pushed her to it that day. 908 00:40:38,269 --> 00:40:45,076 ♪ 909 00:40:45,243 --> 00:40:47,445 - She had her entire life ahead of her 910 00:40:47,545 --> 00:40:49,681 until that December day. 911 00:40:49,781 --> 00:40:51,516 Natalie was my daughter, 912 00:40:51,683 --> 00:40:53,484 my first-born child, 913 00:40:53,584 --> 00:40:55,720 a twin, a sister, 914 00:40:55,820 --> 00:40:56,954 a granddaughter, 915 00:40:57,055 --> 00:40:59,691 a niece, and a friend. 916 00:40:59,791 --> 00:41:02,593 She was loved beyond measure. 917 00:41:02,694 --> 00:41:06,030 As her mother, I loved her first, 918 00:41:06,197 --> 00:41:08,232 before anyone saw her face, 919 00:41:08,333 --> 00:41:10,168 before Natalie was her name. 920 00:41:10,268 --> 00:41:14,806 Before she was her own "she," we were three. 921 00:41:14,906 --> 00:41:17,275 Where's my toes? 922 00:41:17,442 --> 00:41:21,245 Mr. Lopez fulfilled a fantasy he had cultivated for years 923 00:41:21,346 --> 00:41:25,283 when he carried out the murder of my daughter. 924 00:41:25,450 --> 00:41:27,952 The wounded, grieving hearts of this family 925 00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:31,289 will be carried for the rest of our lives. 926 00:41:31,389 --> 00:41:33,825 Even worse, I think, than my own sorrow 927 00:41:33,992 --> 00:41:36,961 is that of Natalie's twin sister, Alycia. 928 00:41:37,061 --> 00:41:38,329 ♪ 929 00:41:38,429 --> 00:41:40,765 They equate twin loss 930 00:41:40,865 --> 00:41:42,834 the same as a mother losing her child. 931 00:41:42,934 --> 00:41:44,002 ♪ 932 00:41:44,168 --> 00:41:47,939 It was a devastating jolt for her. 933 00:41:48,072 --> 00:41:50,008 - After several emotional statements 934 00:41:50,108 --> 00:41:51,309 from Natalie's family, 935 00:41:51,476 --> 00:41:53,778 the judge gave Lopez the maximum sentence 936 00:41:53,878 --> 00:41:55,279 under his plea deal, 937 00:41:55,380 --> 00:41:59,016 48 years in prison with 5 years parole. 938 00:41:59,117 --> 00:42:01,152 Natalie's maternal side of the family 939 00:42:01,319 --> 00:42:03,554 says they're at peace with the sentence. 940 00:42:03,654 --> 00:42:06,691 [somber music] 941 00:42:06,791 --> 00:42:09,827 - She's not a character from some show 942 00:42:09,994 --> 00:42:12,997 that somebody somewhere scripts and writes. 943 00:42:13,164 --> 00:42:14,966 ♪ 944 00:42:15,066 --> 00:42:20,138 This is a real human being who was taken from us, 945 00:42:20,238 --> 00:42:25,610 and we'll never be the same without her. 946 00:42:25,710 --> 00:42:26,611 ♪ 947 00:42:26,711 --> 00:42:30,948 - She was young, beautiful, 948 00:42:31,115 --> 00:42:33,851 and had her future ahead of her. 949 00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:37,188 - Hey, Grandma. It's Nat-bug. 950 00:42:37,355 --> 00:42:42,593 I just wanted to call and say have a merry Christmas Eve, 951 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,128 and I love you a bunch, 952 00:42:44,228 --> 00:42:49,233 and if you still want us to come over tomorrow, just-- 953 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,835 I love you. 954 00:42:51,002 --> 00:42:52,403 I hope you have a great day. 955 00:42:52,503 --> 00:42:53,404 Bye. 956 00:42:53,504 --> 00:42:55,239 ♪