1 00:01:30,674 --> 00:01:33,969 It's just like the paperwork says. Read the report. 2 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,973 Our feeling is that the prosecution didn't make a full accounting 3 00:01:38,140 --> 00:01:40,100 or mount a suitable case. 4 00:01:40,225 --> 00:01:43,520 So we have to do that now, get the full accounting. 5 00:01:47,232 --> 00:01:49,568 WEST, Roland, Lieutenant, Arkansas State Police 6 00:01:49,651 --> 00:01:51,570 Deposition date: 5/17/1990 7 00:01:58,452 --> 00:02:01,538 Round the end of the first week, family got the note. 8 00:02:04,249 --> 00:02:07,503 Envelope's handwritten, so this isn't a brainiac. 9 00:02:08,629 --> 00:02:11,924 Processing stamp's from a post office in Farmington. 10 00:02:12,049 --> 00:02:14,593 Could've been dropped in any mailbox. 11 00:02:15,010 --> 00:02:17,429 We're putting men out there to canvass. 12 00:02:19,223 --> 00:02:20,307 You see this? 13 00:02:20,390 --> 00:02:22,309 $10,000 reward from The Ozark Children's Outreach Center. 14 00:02:22,392 --> 00:02:25,437 Twiggs said they been fielding calls from Martians all day. 15 00:02:25,521 --> 00:02:27,439 What's The Ozark Children's Outreach? 16 00:02:27,523 --> 00:02:28,565 Some charity. 17 00:02:30,817 --> 00:02:34,112 You think it's true, the girl's alive? 18 00:02:35,739 --> 00:02:37,241 I think she is. 19 00:02:38,617 --> 00:02:40,786 And what were you focusing on prior? 20 00:02:43,038 --> 00:02:46,250 Neighborhood surveillance. Like it says in the report. 21 00:02:46,375 --> 00:02:47,793 Right, yeah... 22 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,254 All day... 23 00:02:51,463 --> 00:02:55,050 But you guys didn't get to the house till after everybody else. 24 00:02:55,175 --> 00:02:58,053 You'd got there first if you were in the neighborhood, wouldn't you? 25 00:02:58,345 --> 00:03:00,931 Well, we mighta taken the call late, or... 26 00:03:02,182 --> 00:03:03,934 I'm a little fuzzy. 27 00:03:05,227 --> 00:03:07,855 Wayne probably has a better memory. 28 00:03:09,857 --> 00:03:11,859 The picture doesn't show anything new. 29 00:03:12,150 --> 00:03:15,571 Nothing that suggests the black-out. That's good. 30 00:03:15,779 --> 00:03:19,032 Since your CT scan looks clean, I think the concern right now 31 00:03:19,116 --> 00:03:21,618 is the need to adjust your lifestyle to what's happening. 32 00:03:21,702 --> 00:03:22,995 I wasn't... 33 00:03:24,371 --> 00:03:25,873 He explained it wrong. 34 00:03:28,542 --> 00:03:31,545 I didn't drive in my sleep, or any kind of state. 35 00:03:32,337 --> 00:03:33,547 I mean... 36 00:03:34,631 --> 00:03:36,758 ...at the time... 37 00:03:37,843 --> 00:03:40,220 I believe I did know what I was doing. 38 00:03:41,555 --> 00:03:42,806 It's only I forgot later. 39 00:03:42,931 --> 00:03:46,310 We're just going to have to do some things differently. Okay, dad? 40 00:03:46,643 --> 00:03:49,813 I went out there for a reason. I just can't remember. 41 00:03:49,938 --> 00:03:51,982 That's not like I'm losing it... 42 00:03:52,107 --> 00:03:55,277 Do you remember the rest of dinner at my place? 43 00:03:56,111 --> 00:03:59,114 - Remember me driving you home? - Yeah. 44 00:03:59,656 --> 00:04:01,241 Heather drove you home. 45 00:04:02,451 --> 00:04:04,369 Oh, we're playing "gotcha". 46 00:04:04,745 --> 00:04:08,373 Mr. Hays, your son loves you, Our only concern is your well-being. 47 00:04:08,498 --> 00:04:13,170 I know my son loves me, doctor. But thanks for walking me through that. 48 00:04:15,631 --> 00:04:17,758 The place you found yourself. 49 00:04:18,759 --> 00:04:21,720 Do you know why you might have wanted to go there? 50 00:04:22,679 --> 00:04:24,681 Does it have any significance? 51 00:04:25,516 --> 00:04:27,476 Yeah. It did. 52 00:04:28,352 --> 00:04:29,978 He did a couple interviews for this show, 53 00:04:30,103 --> 00:04:31,939 been talking about an old case, took place out there. 54 00:04:32,022 --> 00:04:35,609 - What're you, ratting on me? - What're you, working a case? 55 00:04:36,735 --> 00:04:38,487 It was never fully solved. 56 00:04:39,071 --> 00:04:41,532 People don't remember being babies. 57 00:04:41,698 --> 00:04:44,785 It's good we get to revisit that stage at the end. 58 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,745 Mr. Hays, believe me... 59 00:04:47,204 --> 00:04:49,331 I can understand your frustration with the disease. 60 00:04:49,414 --> 00:04:51,959 A disease you can't even say what it is. 61 00:04:52,125 --> 00:04:54,878 We can say what it almost certainly is. 62 00:05:03,929 --> 00:05:05,556 I told you. 63 00:05:06,932 --> 00:05:09,893 You try putting me in a home, I'll off myself. 64 00:05:12,563 --> 00:05:14,773 Put it outta your head. 65 00:05:23,448 --> 00:05:24,950 Don't you wanna know? 66 00:05:26,910 --> 00:05:28,120 You do. 67 00:05:31,373 --> 00:05:33,500 And she needs help, doesn't she? 68 00:05:34,751 --> 00:05:35,794 Julie... 69 00:05:38,130 --> 00:05:39,381 Yeah. 70 00:05:41,758 --> 00:05:44,636 You know, it was just a case, when I caught it. 71 00:05:46,722 --> 00:05:48,932 I didn't know it'd be my last. 72 00:05:51,768 --> 00:05:54,730 You with the book these last years... 73 00:05:58,108 --> 00:05:59,568 I feel like... 74 00:06:00,611 --> 00:06:03,739 ...tired of this thing. Being in our lives. 75 00:06:06,909 --> 00:06:08,410 Like when we met... 76 00:06:10,287 --> 00:06:14,541 I mean, it's Saturday night. Your mom's got the kids. 77 00:06:16,502 --> 00:06:19,505 And there's this thing sitting between us. 78 00:06:24,134 --> 00:06:26,136 So what do you want to do? 79 00:06:28,847 --> 00:06:30,390 I don't know. 80 00:06:32,809 --> 00:06:35,020 There was a motel back there. 81 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,650 We could just drink and have sex all night. 82 00:06:44,154 --> 00:06:46,198 Boy, that'd be great. 83 00:06:51,203 --> 00:06:53,664 Alan said so far they have her prints on a counter 84 00:06:53,789 --> 00:06:56,041 and some shelves in the main area. 85 00:06:57,417 --> 00:06:59,461 Were there any behind the pharmacy? 86 00:06:59,545 --> 00:07:02,047 He didn't know. Sallisaw PD's got it. 87 00:07:02,464 --> 00:07:04,299 Shouldn't you talk to them? 88 00:07:06,093 --> 00:07:07,970 May come back on me. 89 00:07:08,762 --> 00:07:12,099 It's not like if they check, somebody's gonna have my back. 90 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,647 What if I talked to them? 91 00:07:19,398 --> 00:07:20,774 Sallisaw. 92 00:07:22,150 --> 00:07:25,320 An author with a book about the case. 93 00:07:25,612 --> 00:07:28,365 I have galleys, I'm legitimate. 94 00:07:28,699 --> 00:07:30,868 - I bet I can get 'em to share with me. - I doubt it. 95 00:07:30,951 --> 00:07:33,704 No, no... I'll get done up. 96 00:07:34,538 --> 00:07:36,957 Bookish but sexy, 97 00:07:37,082 --> 00:07:40,169 intimidated by those big tough cops. 98 00:07:40,294 --> 00:07:43,714 This is like Afro... "Hart to Hart", that it? 99 00:07:43,881 --> 00:07:45,340 Come on! 100 00:07:51,180 --> 00:07:55,267 You wanna use the payphone, we're here, check on the kids? 101 00:07:56,226 --> 00:07:58,770 Why don't I call from the motel? 102 00:08:19,875 --> 00:08:21,543 We need to walk it back. 103 00:08:23,003 --> 00:08:24,880 Re-examine it all. 104 00:08:26,673 --> 00:08:29,218 It's like a thing is staring right at us. 105 00:08:29,801 --> 00:08:32,054 Got that feeling myself. 106 00:08:40,979 --> 00:08:45,526 The Purcells said they were gonna play with their neighbor, the Boyle kid. 107 00:08:45,776 --> 00:08:46,902 Yeah. 108 00:08:47,194 --> 00:08:49,696 But he said they didn't have any plans. 109 00:08:53,534 --> 00:08:57,454 Why would the Purcell kids lie about meeting the Boyle kid? 110 00:08:57,996 --> 00:08:59,831 What were they up to? 111 00:09:01,124 --> 00:09:03,335 What were they really doing? 112 00:09:03,710 --> 00:09:05,754 Back to the kids. 113 00:09:06,338 --> 00:09:08,715 Talk to the parents again. The Boyle kid. 114 00:09:08,841 --> 00:09:10,843 Any others knew 'em. 115 00:09:12,594 --> 00:09:14,972 Go back through the house again. Right? 116 00:09:15,097 --> 00:09:17,015 Yeah. Right on. 117 00:09:20,561 --> 00:09:22,354 That's good, man... 118 00:09:24,189 --> 00:09:26,483 We get that teacher to help with the kids. 119 00:09:31,780 --> 00:09:35,075 Wayne had the idea, them kids were telling stories... 120 00:09:35,534 --> 00:09:37,494 And he was correct. 121 00:09:38,620 --> 00:09:41,081 Y'all fucked a good detective there. 122 00:09:41,582 --> 00:09:43,333 You know that, right? 123 00:09:43,417 --> 00:09:47,171 I wouldn't argue with you. But it wasn't me. 124 00:09:47,838 --> 00:09:50,924 He probably didn't even give you shit for it when you saw him, huh? 125 00:09:51,133 --> 00:09:53,677 I can't say he did, no. 126 00:09:56,597 --> 00:09:59,308 Purple Hays. My man. 127 00:10:01,560 --> 00:10:05,063 I tried to get him transferred over here twice, you know. 128 00:10:05,147 --> 00:10:08,400 Blocked both times by the major's office. 129 00:10:08,734 --> 00:10:10,485 Told me not to ask again. 130 00:10:10,569 --> 00:10:12,779 Feel like we should stay on point. 131 00:10:14,740 --> 00:10:17,075 I'm making a point, son. 132 00:10:22,831 --> 00:10:25,292 You played with Will and Julie a lot, huh? 133 00:10:26,001 --> 00:10:30,506 Not really. I mean, I hung out with Will at school a little. 134 00:10:31,006 --> 00:10:33,509 But y'all hung out after school? 135 00:10:34,468 --> 00:10:36,678 His dad said y'all played after school. 136 00:10:36,762 --> 00:10:39,348 Nossir. We didn't play much. 137 00:10:40,682 --> 00:10:45,687 I told him he could come over sometime to see the new puppy, but that's it. 138 00:10:45,812 --> 00:10:47,397 He's home after school. 139 00:10:47,648 --> 00:10:50,359 Or at basketball now. He don't go out playing much. 140 00:10:56,698 --> 00:11:00,327 You said they played a lot with that neighbor, Ronnie Boyle. 141 00:11:02,037 --> 00:11:03,455 Yeah... 142 00:11:04,414 --> 00:11:07,626 Three or four times a week... They're best friends. 143 00:11:07,918 --> 00:11:10,379 Did Ronnie ever come over here, to the house? 144 00:11:10,462 --> 00:11:13,090 Did you ever see when kids get together? 145 00:11:13,298 --> 00:11:14,383 No. 146 00:11:15,968 --> 00:11:19,888 No, I guess not. But I knew him and his parents from school. 147 00:11:20,013 --> 00:11:21,849 They'd go over to his place. 148 00:11:22,641 --> 00:11:26,645 Actually, it looks like they didn't really play together. 149 00:11:27,688 --> 00:11:28,856 What is this? 150 00:11:30,065 --> 00:11:31,650 What's this mean? 151 00:11:31,984 --> 00:11:34,403 Why aren't you out there looking for her? 152 00:11:34,570 --> 00:11:36,738 That's where she is... out there... 153 00:11:36,822 --> 00:11:39,366 She's alive, the letter said... she's out there... 154 00:11:39,449 --> 00:11:41,493 The feds are running a wide search, Mr. Purcell. 155 00:11:41,577 --> 00:11:43,787 And they have a lot more manpower. 156 00:11:45,038 --> 00:11:47,833 We're trying to focus on what's personal. 157 00:11:47,958 --> 00:11:50,085 Would you folks be alright 158 00:11:50,169 --> 00:11:53,463 if we started going back through some of their things? 159 00:11:53,547 --> 00:11:57,384 We're afraid now... we might've overlooked something. 160 00:11:58,010 --> 00:11:59,469 What? 161 00:12:00,262 --> 00:12:02,306 We just don't know, ma'am. 162 00:13:20,384 --> 00:13:21,635 "IT'S OKAY". 163 00:13:21,718 --> 00:13:23,637 "DON'T LISTEN." 164 00:13:25,097 --> 00:13:28,100 "I'LL ALWAYS KEEP YOU SAFE." 165 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,161 We'll process this stuff, get it back to you. 166 00:13:49,621 --> 00:13:51,415 Don't lose it, okay? 167 00:13:51,498 --> 00:13:52,541 We won't. 168 00:13:54,334 --> 00:13:56,837 Say, one of you used to work at Hoyt Foods? 169 00:13:59,131 --> 00:14:00,632 Yeah, I did. 170 00:14:01,675 --> 00:14:03,510 On the chicken line. 171 00:14:03,802 --> 00:14:08,765 Quit a year or two ago. Make better money in tips at the Sawhorse. 172 00:14:09,975 --> 00:14:11,018 Why? 173 00:14:11,852 --> 00:14:13,478 Just asking. 174 00:14:14,438 --> 00:14:16,273 Thank you, now. 175 00:14:28,410 --> 00:14:32,372 So Wayne opened up that the kids weren't doing what they said they were. 176 00:14:32,581 --> 00:14:36,668 With that big reward, brought everybody out the woodwork. 177 00:14:37,211 --> 00:14:39,379 You see Wayne much anymore? 178 00:14:40,547 --> 00:14:42,216 Not at all, really. 179 00:14:43,425 --> 00:14:45,427 An' I don't know why. 180 00:14:45,844 --> 00:14:47,804 No hard feelings, though? 181 00:14:48,055 --> 00:14:52,935 Not between him and me. We were good friends, as I see it. 182 00:14:55,437 --> 00:14:57,147 I think it was... 183 00:14:57,940 --> 00:15:02,110 Once we stopped working together, we just stopped. 184 00:15:04,571 --> 00:15:07,241 Sometimes it's like that with people. 185 00:15:13,121 --> 00:15:16,166 - Dad, can I get a Transformer? - No. 186 00:15:16,250 --> 00:15:19,419 Can we get something from the toys, Dad? If it's cheap? 187 00:15:19,503 --> 00:15:21,880 No. Where the hell's the charcoal? 188 00:15:22,005 --> 00:15:24,508 - How about if it's only a dollar? - No. 189 00:15:25,342 --> 00:15:27,344 Stores aren't supposed to be this big. 190 00:15:27,511 --> 00:15:30,430 - Can we at least go look at the toys? - No. 191 00:15:30,764 --> 00:15:32,641 You guys have to stay with me... 192 00:15:35,102 --> 00:15:38,272 So we're trying to update the book, if possible. 193 00:15:38,564 --> 00:15:42,651 Hearing about her prints at the drugstore is very significant... 194 00:15:42,734 --> 00:15:44,570 How'd you hear about that? 195 00:15:45,195 --> 00:15:46,738 My ex-husband. 196 00:15:47,114 --> 00:15:49,366 He's a cop in Arkansas. 197 00:15:51,201 --> 00:15:53,704 Always had a thing for cops, I guess. 198 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,208 We got a few partials and a lot of fulls. 199 00:15:58,292 --> 00:16:02,129 We verified it with the state crime lab... it's definitely a match. 200 00:16:03,422 --> 00:16:06,300 Were any of her prints found behind the pharmacy? 201 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,762 No. But we didn't get to keep working the scene, either. 202 00:16:11,847 --> 00:16:15,392 End of the day, the store just wanted to get back to business. 203 00:16:16,018 --> 00:16:19,062 - So hers were just the shelves? - Yes, ma'am. 204 00:16:19,313 --> 00:16:22,691 We only focused on the robbery, and that was months ago. 205 00:16:24,860 --> 00:16:26,403 I'm about to clock out. 206 00:16:26,528 --> 00:16:29,615 You want to grab a bite and we can talk more about it? 207 00:16:40,542 --> 00:16:41,960 Alright. 208 00:16:53,472 --> 00:16:56,433 Hey... I think we're done. 209 00:16:57,726 --> 00:16:59,603 That was awful, right? 210 00:17:00,187 --> 00:17:03,232 Since you guys were so good, I'll let you get one thing. 211 00:17:03,357 --> 00:17:05,192 Feel better, sad guy? 212 00:17:08,278 --> 00:17:09,738 Where's your sister? 213 00:17:10,364 --> 00:17:13,116 She was right behind me... I don't know... 214 00:17:13,659 --> 00:17:14,910 C'mon! 215 00:17:17,996 --> 00:17:20,874 - Becca! Becca! - Becca! 216 00:17:34,555 --> 00:17:35,597 Becca! 217 00:17:36,014 --> 00:17:38,225 Becca! 218 00:17:39,142 --> 00:17:40,477 Becca! 219 00:17:41,645 --> 00:17:43,730 - Becca! - Please come to customer service. 220 00:17:44,106 --> 00:17:46,358 Look for the nearest Walmart representative 221 00:17:46,441 --> 00:17:50,362 and ask them to bring you to customer service Rebecca Hays... 222 00:17:50,445 --> 00:17:51,947 It's been ten minutes. 223 00:17:52,364 --> 00:17:56,451 You need to lock down the store. Shut all the doors. Nobody in or out. 224 00:17:57,077 --> 00:18:00,956 Listen to me. I'm a cop. State Police. Lock down the store, now. 225 00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:02,332 I'll make an announcement, Give me the mic... 226 00:18:02,457 --> 00:18:05,043 - Sir, I don't think you... - Give me the mic! 227 00:18:07,296 --> 00:18:08,881 Where were you?! 228 00:18:08,964 --> 00:18:11,675 I dunno. They were giving out chips in one place, 229 00:18:11,758 --> 00:18:14,052 and I stopped to eat some, and y'all were gone... 230 00:18:14,136 --> 00:18:18,056 Goddamnit, you can't do that! You hear me? Don't fucking do that, Rebecca! 231 00:18:26,023 --> 00:18:28,192 Okay. 232 00:18:28,692 --> 00:18:31,028 Let's go. Let's just go home. 233 00:18:50,130 --> 00:18:51,798 We were happy to help. 234 00:18:51,924 --> 00:18:55,511 Especially once we heard she was a former employee of ours. 235 00:18:55,802 --> 00:18:59,765 Just it led to a lot of false tips, you know, 236 00:19:00,307 --> 00:19:03,519 and it's better to coordinate this kind of thing between our offices. 237 00:19:03,602 --> 00:19:05,270 But we did. 238 00:19:05,771 --> 00:19:09,566 The board cleared it with the county prosecutor's office... 239 00:19:11,652 --> 00:19:15,322 I don't see any pictures of y'all putting up rewards for anybody. 240 00:19:16,073 --> 00:19:17,533 Up till now, we've tended to help 241 00:19:17,658 --> 00:19:20,869 families with children that needed medical treatment. 242 00:19:20,953 --> 00:19:22,371 But with it all over the news, 243 00:19:22,496 --> 00:19:26,458 and knowing the mother used to be in our family of workers, 244 00:19:26,542 --> 00:19:28,418 the board voted to contribute. 245 00:19:29,670 --> 00:19:31,839 When did this "outreach" start? 246 00:19:32,256 --> 00:19:35,300 Mr. Hoyt endowed the foundation after they lost their granddaughter 247 00:19:35,425 --> 00:19:36,927 a couple of years ago. 248 00:19:37,970 --> 00:19:41,223 The mother worked on the chicken line. Where's that building? 249 00:19:41,473 --> 00:19:42,599 Let's see... 250 00:19:43,559 --> 00:19:47,729 It'd be one of... those two. 251 00:19:50,357 --> 00:19:52,109 You know what would help? 252 00:19:52,192 --> 00:19:55,863 Names and dates of hire for every employee works at this plant. 253 00:19:56,029 --> 00:19:58,740 That's nearly seven hundred people. 254 00:19:58,824 --> 00:20:01,285 Faster we get them back, the better. 255 00:20:02,828 --> 00:20:06,999 Alright. Sure, of course. We'll start getting it together right now. 256 00:20:07,082 --> 00:20:10,419 The big man, Mr. Hoyt, he ever here? 257 00:20:10,502 --> 00:20:14,715 Well, hardly, no. Mr. Hoyt's been an Africa since mid-October. 258 00:20:14,965 --> 00:20:16,008 Safari. 259 00:20:16,425 --> 00:20:19,845 Yeah? My partner's a bit of a hunter himself... 260 00:21:10,604 --> 00:21:12,523 State PD, task force... 261 00:21:17,778 --> 00:21:21,198 The girl's being held at a snake farm in Hunstville? 262 00:21:22,366 --> 00:21:24,660 And how you know this, ma'am? 263 00:21:27,746 --> 00:21:30,666 Listen, we closed right now, but do me a favor: 264 00:21:30,749 --> 00:21:34,211 Call back in the morning, this number, 265 00:21:34,336 --> 00:21:37,589 ask for Agents Bowen or Diller, FBI. 266 00:21:38,423 --> 00:21:40,342 Tell 'em what you telling me. 267 00:21:43,053 --> 00:21:44,096 Alright now. 268 00:21:44,179 --> 00:21:45,764 "IT'S OKAY." "DON'T LISTEN." 269 00:21:45,848 --> 00:21:47,474 "I'LL ALWAYS KEEP YOU SAFE." "HAVE A GOOD NIGHT" 270 00:21:48,475 --> 00:21:51,061 Lady seen Julie Purcell in a dream. 271 00:21:52,229 --> 00:21:55,274 An' she say her dreams always come true. 272 00:21:59,278 --> 00:22:01,613 All this stuff's about that game. 273 00:22:02,364 --> 00:22:04,616 Couldn't find his dice, but... 274 00:22:06,285 --> 00:22:08,161 I'm not seeing anything. 275 00:22:11,707 --> 00:22:13,917 Except, he played a lot. 276 00:22:14,793 --> 00:22:17,838 And them other kids didn't play with him, huh? 277 00:22:27,556 --> 00:22:29,933 SECRET FRIEND? 278 00:22:32,227 --> 00:22:35,147 Who gave Julie the doll and met them in the woods? 279 00:22:35,230 --> 00:22:37,149 Who played the game with Will? 280 00:22:37,608 --> 00:22:41,695 Where'd they go after school, they were meant to be with that neighbor? 281 00:22:41,778 --> 00:22:43,739 So what was your next move? 282 00:22:46,533 --> 00:22:49,703 Shut down the park except for search parties. 283 00:22:49,953 --> 00:22:53,749 They were still doing them every day, mostly volunteer. 284 00:22:54,291 --> 00:22:57,127 State Park's about 2500 acres... 285 00:22:58,003 --> 00:22:59,671 So, how does it work? 286 00:23:00,506 --> 00:23:02,174 You spot patterns. 287 00:23:04,218 --> 00:23:06,512 Disturbance, flattening. 288 00:23:07,262 --> 00:23:09,890 It's there, you just have to look for it. 289 00:23:10,265 --> 00:23:12,976 Bent grass, compressed ground. 290 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,524 You tracked men in the war? 291 00:23:21,443 --> 00:23:23,070 I did. 292 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,074 Did you march? 293 00:23:28,283 --> 00:23:29,660 I did. 294 00:23:31,620 --> 00:23:35,165 Funny how the protests stopped once the draft ended. 295 00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:47,344 Hey, that... poem you were teaching. 296 00:23:47,511 --> 00:23:50,848 Yeah. You had some thoughts about it? 297 00:23:53,225 --> 00:23:55,853 He says you call the story "Time", 298 00:23:56,144 --> 00:23:58,564 but you can't say its name. 299 00:23:59,147 --> 00:24:01,024 Why's that? 300 00:24:02,901 --> 00:24:05,070 I guess because... 301 00:24:05,195 --> 00:24:09,283 we're in time, and of time, 302 00:24:11,243 --> 00:24:13,078 but to name... 303 00:24:14,496 --> 00:24:17,624 You separate yourself from something when you name it. 304 00:24:17,749 --> 00:24:19,751 And I think he means, 305 00:24:19,877 --> 00:24:22,629 we can't be separated from time. 306 00:24:27,176 --> 00:24:30,304 I thought he meant it was like the name of God. 307 00:24:31,471 --> 00:24:35,184 You know, how the Hebrews weren't supposed to say God's name. 308 00:25:02,252 --> 00:25:05,506 You think maybe we should have dinner some time? 309 00:25:17,476 --> 00:25:19,728 - Hey! - Hi. 310 00:25:19,811 --> 00:25:23,190 Those Sallisaw boys couldn't stop telling me stuff. 311 00:25:23,524 --> 00:25:27,361 I was pretty tremendous. I think I have a future at this. 312 00:25:29,613 --> 00:25:32,032 You're reading it? Finally? 313 00:25:32,115 --> 00:25:33,617 Not really. 314 00:25:34,785 --> 00:25:36,995 I keep seeing my name. 315 00:25:43,836 --> 00:25:45,212 Are you drunk? 316 00:25:46,129 --> 00:25:49,550 No. I had a drink at dinner. 317 00:25:50,259 --> 00:25:52,803 This detective took me out to eat. 318 00:25:53,095 --> 00:25:54,429 Oh, terrific. 319 00:25:54,555 --> 00:25:57,099 No, actually I got a lot of info from him. 320 00:25:57,724 --> 00:25:59,560 Listen, her fingerprints were found 321 00:25:59,643 --> 00:26:01,854 just on the shelves in the cosmetics aisle. 322 00:26:01,937 --> 00:26:04,147 Looks like she was probably a customer. 323 00:26:04,273 --> 00:26:06,650 They have the prior week's surveillance footage. 324 00:26:06,733 --> 00:26:08,777 I think they're gonna let me look at it. 325 00:26:08,861 --> 00:26:11,488 I didn't get any of that shit you wanted. 326 00:26:11,655 --> 00:26:13,282 At Walmart. 327 00:26:15,117 --> 00:26:16,493 Okay. 328 00:26:18,328 --> 00:26:19,997 Did something happen? 329 00:26:20,247 --> 00:26:23,166 - Are the kids alright? - The kids are fine. 330 00:26:23,709 --> 00:26:25,878 - Are you alright? - I'm alright. 331 00:26:26,461 --> 00:26:28,755 But one thing, one favor. 332 00:26:29,882 --> 00:26:31,884 Do not come bouncing in here 333 00:26:31,967 --> 00:26:34,887 half-in-the-bag, all giddy about this shit. 334 00:26:34,970 --> 00:26:36,638 Can you do that? 335 00:26:36,722 --> 00:26:40,684 Can you summon the mental resolve to shut up about this shit with me? 336 00:26:42,102 --> 00:26:45,439 If you feel this way you don't have to talk to me like that. 337 00:26:45,522 --> 00:26:48,150 - You could just tell me. - You've been told. 338 00:26:48,525 --> 00:26:51,945 Whyn't you go check on the kids, since you haven't seen em all day. 339 00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:54,698 - They're supposed to be in bed. - Fuck off. 340 00:26:54,823 --> 00:26:56,158 I'm with them five times the amount you are, 341 00:26:56,325 --> 00:26:58,327 for a job that treats you like shit. 342 00:26:58,410 --> 00:27:01,914 I don't really feel like trading curses. I said my piece. 343 00:27:03,790 --> 00:27:05,792 I'm not gonna stop, Wayne. 344 00:30:02,719 --> 00:30:06,682 Patrol's got the scene. Forensics' is on the way. 345 00:30:06,849 --> 00:30:10,727 That's where the boy died. Somebody carried him to the cave. 346 00:30:11,478 --> 00:30:13,856 The office checked the field reports. 347 00:30:13,939 --> 00:30:15,691 Nobody talked to this guy. 348 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,944 The farm road's not on our maps. 349 00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:31,707 I already talked to your people. 350 00:30:32,207 --> 00:30:34,585 Man came here the next day. 351 00:30:35,586 --> 00:30:36,628 What man? 352 00:30:37,629 --> 00:30:39,840 Was he police, sheriff's? 353 00:30:39,965 --> 00:30:43,218 Man in a suit, showed me a badge. 354 00:30:43,719 --> 00:30:47,431 Asked about those missing kids, if I'd seen anything. 355 00:30:47,681 --> 00:30:49,516 Can you describe him? 356 00:30:51,518 --> 00:30:54,605 Normal guy. White. Suit. 357 00:30:56,148 --> 00:30:57,733 Showed me a badge. 358 00:30:59,109 --> 00:31:01,778 What'd you tell him? Did you see anything? 359 00:31:01,862 --> 00:31:05,032 I told him I'd seen those kids before. 360 00:31:05,115 --> 00:31:09,786 Two or three times. They'd come down my road, into the woods. 361 00:31:10,495 --> 00:31:12,748 Couple afternoons I've seen 'em. 362 00:31:12,831 --> 00:31:15,709 - You see anybody else? - Yeah. 363 00:31:16,001 --> 00:31:19,087 I told him I'd seen a car out here a couple times. 364 00:31:19,171 --> 00:31:22,674 Nice one, brown. Man and woman... 365 00:31:22,841 --> 00:31:25,302 But that wasn't the same day. 366 00:31:25,385 --> 00:31:28,096 What they looked like, the man and woman? 367 00:31:28,472 --> 00:31:31,225 Like y'all. Black and white. 368 00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:34,186 Man was Negro. 369 00:31:34,311 --> 00:31:36,313 I couldn't see faces. 370 00:31:37,856 --> 00:31:41,568 Most times you gotta be looking for our place, 371 00:31:42,903 --> 00:31:45,364 but sometimes people come out here. 372 00:31:45,489 --> 00:31:48,742 Sir, you mind if we search your property? 373 00:31:50,452 --> 00:31:52,287 Yessir, I mind. 374 00:31:52,829 --> 00:31:55,415 Don't you need a warrant for something like that? 375 00:31:56,834 --> 00:31:58,794 If you make us get one. 376 00:31:59,628 --> 00:32:02,172 I think you'll have to, son. 377 00:32:04,466 --> 00:32:05,551 Can I ask... 378 00:32:06,176 --> 00:32:08,220 do you feel there was sufficient coverage of the neighborhood 379 00:32:08,303 --> 00:32:09,930 during the canvassing? 380 00:32:10,514 --> 00:32:12,057 I guess I do. 381 00:32:13,934 --> 00:32:16,270 We brought whatever we had. 382 00:32:17,229 --> 00:32:20,941 General rule, you start close, then work your way out. 383 00:32:21,567 --> 00:32:23,861 Did the officers conduct multiple interviews 384 00:32:23,944 --> 00:32:25,362 with all potential witnesses? 385 00:32:25,487 --> 00:32:27,030 Yes... 386 00:32:27,489 --> 00:32:33,036 And I feel like, honestly, everyone was giving everything they had. 387 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,415 Well, we have people who say they were never questioned by the police, 388 00:32:36,540 --> 00:32:39,835 although they remembered the officers going door to door. 389 00:32:45,174 --> 00:32:46,717 I don't know... 390 00:32:47,426 --> 00:32:50,762 If anyone got overlooked, it was a mistake... 391 00:32:50,846 --> 00:32:53,849 We had over a hundred law enforcement officers out there... 392 00:32:53,932 --> 00:32:56,852 Some residents did get talked to three or four times. 393 00:32:56,935 --> 00:32:59,146 But nobody spoke to these people. 394 00:32:59,229 --> 00:33:02,774 And we found two who both separately claim to've witnessed 395 00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:06,612 a very nice brown sedan driving around the neighborhoods 396 00:33:06,737 --> 00:33:10,449 and later, away from Devil's Den on the day of the murder... 397 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,620 Brown sedan? 398 00:33:15,329 --> 00:33:18,457 A witness said police talked to him once, and he told them about the car, 399 00:33:18,540 --> 00:33:19,958 but they never came back. 400 00:33:20,042 --> 00:33:23,086 And there's no mention of the sedan in field reports. 401 00:33:23,170 --> 00:33:25,506 Another said the police never took a statement. 402 00:33:25,589 --> 00:33:28,592 But they both noticed the car because it was new and upscale, 403 00:33:28,675 --> 00:33:30,844 and that was unusual for the area. 404 00:33:30,928 --> 00:33:33,722 And that the vehicle kept driving around. 405 00:33:37,851 --> 00:33:38,894 Treads... 406 00:33:40,729 --> 00:33:43,065 I remember, treads... 407 00:33:43,482 --> 00:33:45,442 Another former resident, Charles Snyder, 408 00:33:45,526 --> 00:33:48,403 said two weeks before, he reported that his boy and a friend 409 00:33:48,529 --> 00:33:51,490 had told of a black man with a scar, in a suit 410 00:33:51,615 --> 00:33:54,618 at the cul-de-sac where the kids played, near Devil's Den. 411 00:33:55,118 --> 00:33:57,704 No one ever came back to question him. 412 00:34:01,083 --> 00:34:04,294 None of this is mentioned in the official reports. 413 00:34:07,673 --> 00:34:11,343 This alone, don't you think, points to serious flaws in the investigation, 414 00:34:11,426 --> 00:34:12,886 from the beginning? 415 00:34:17,099 --> 00:34:19,852 What's going on, really? 416 00:34:20,686 --> 00:34:23,981 You got some new evidence? Are you looking for Julie? 417 00:34:24,106 --> 00:34:25,399 You find something? 418 00:34:25,482 --> 00:34:27,776 - That's enough for today. - I'm alright. 419 00:34:27,860 --> 00:34:30,362 - I think we were doing well. - I'm sure you do. 420 00:34:30,487 --> 00:34:33,282 You see his distress? This man is ill, Elisa. 421 00:34:33,407 --> 00:34:35,492 - Henry... - That is enough. 422 00:34:38,245 --> 00:34:39,705 For today. 423 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,887 Over there, 'other side of the tree line. 424 00:34:55,387 --> 00:34:59,349 It's hard to find, kind of hidden. That's where they played. 425 00:35:00,142 --> 00:35:02,561 We need to process these toys. 426 00:35:02,936 --> 00:35:06,106 You can bag the toys, but we need pictures to show the parents. 427 00:35:47,189 --> 00:35:48,232 Hey! 428 00:35:51,527 --> 00:35:54,404 - Get up! - What's going on? 429 00:35:55,072 --> 00:35:56,990 What're you doing skulking around here? 430 00:35:57,074 --> 00:35:58,283 What? 431 00:36:00,077 --> 00:36:04,081 We got kids playin' out here, we don't need you lurking around 'em. 432 00:36:04,164 --> 00:36:05,457 My kids and two others say 433 00:36:05,541 --> 00:36:08,418 you keep coming around that field where they all play. 434 00:36:08,544 --> 00:36:11,421 What're you coming around the kids for? 435 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,382 I'm not... 436 00:36:13,465 --> 00:36:14,842 I don't... 437 00:36:15,342 --> 00:36:17,761 - I have kids. - No you don't. 438 00:36:17,886 --> 00:36:19,805 We don't want you around here. 439 00:36:20,264 --> 00:36:22,558 I live here. I have rights. 440 00:36:22,683 --> 00:36:26,186 I fought for your fucking rights, you assholes... 441 00:36:29,898 --> 00:36:31,525 You a goddamn bum. 442 00:36:31,650 --> 00:36:35,237 - You stay away from these kids. - And stay out our neighborhood. 443 00:36:48,792 --> 00:36:50,669 You hear me, now, boy? 444 00:36:51,461 --> 00:36:53,964 You don't come around here no more. 445 00:36:54,423 --> 00:36:56,592 We don't see you. 446 00:36:56,675 --> 00:37:00,804 And God help you, you talk to another child out here. 447 00:37:18,530 --> 00:37:20,532 Get the fuck outta here! 448 00:38:21,844 --> 00:38:23,846 How's life in charge? 449 00:38:25,722 --> 00:38:27,850 It's got it's good and bad. 450 00:38:31,144 --> 00:38:34,481 You talked to 'em, Alan's firm? 451 00:38:35,399 --> 00:38:37,568 Yeah, they approached me. 452 00:38:38,485 --> 00:38:41,238 The guy's kids hired them, he said. 453 00:38:42,614 --> 00:38:46,368 But you support it, re-opening it? 454 00:38:49,788 --> 00:38:52,332 They tell you about the fingerprints? 455 00:38:53,041 --> 00:38:54,585 Yeah. 456 00:38:55,252 --> 00:38:58,297 You have any idea what that means to me? 457 00:38:59,339 --> 00:39:01,675 I have to imagine. 458 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,343 But yessir. 459 00:39:09,433 --> 00:39:13,312 You know I... I think of Lucy... 460 00:39:14,438 --> 00:39:17,441 I wish she was still around to hear this. 461 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,444 Two years ago, now. 462 00:39:21,361 --> 00:39:23,530 Alan had her file. 463 00:39:24,406 --> 00:39:27,659 I had the body brought back from Vegas. 464 00:39:29,536 --> 00:39:31,371 What about you? 465 00:39:32,706 --> 00:39:35,334 How you doing with all this, now? 466 00:39:36,502 --> 00:39:38,086 Still sober. 467 00:39:38,795 --> 00:39:40,589 Five years. 468 00:39:40,756 --> 00:39:42,299 I know. 469 00:39:43,175 --> 00:39:45,177 I'm proud of you, man. 470 00:39:45,761 --> 00:39:46,929 So... 471 00:39:47,763 --> 00:39:50,098 I got my higher power, and... 472 00:39:50,557 --> 00:39:53,101 He's putting this in front of me now... 473 00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:57,898 Cream and extra sugar, still? 474 00:39:59,107 --> 00:40:01,401 Yessir. Like a dessert. 475 00:40:02,528 --> 00:40:07,324 How about the other one, your partner? He still around? 476 00:40:09,660 --> 00:40:11,328 He's on the job. 477 00:40:12,287 --> 00:40:15,874 He hasn't been in major crime in a long time. 478 00:40:18,126 --> 00:40:24,174 Anyways, me and him kinda lost touch. 479 00:40:26,218 --> 00:40:29,888 You didn't have to check on me, Lieutenant West. 480 00:40:30,848 --> 00:40:34,059 You done more for me than just about anybody. 481 00:40:34,434 --> 00:40:38,230 You pulled me outta that hole five years ago... 482 00:40:38,355 --> 00:40:39,815 Naw. 483 00:40:39,940 --> 00:40:41,692 You done good. 484 00:40:53,537 --> 00:40:56,081 Can I ask you for something? 485 00:40:57,374 --> 00:40:59,334 You can ask. 486 00:41:00,752 --> 00:41:02,671 Would you pray with me? 487 00:41:11,805 --> 00:41:16,268 God, save me from anger. 488 00:41:17,853 --> 00:41:22,274 God, save me from resentment. 489 00:41:24,276 --> 00:41:28,864 God, save me from my judgments and prophecies, 490 00:41:29,698 --> 00:41:33,202 my need to control... 491 00:41:35,621 --> 00:41:39,166 I have known You by the hawk and the dove, 492 00:41:40,167 --> 00:41:43,295 and I live at Your infinite compassion... 493 00:41:44,546 --> 00:41:49,218 Lord, guard what I hold dear, 494 00:41:49,593 --> 00:41:54,848 and let me never hold too dearly anything of this world. 495 00:41:56,183 --> 00:41:57,935 Amen. 496 00:42:04,566 --> 00:42:06,527 A brown sedan. 497 00:42:08,487 --> 00:42:14,326 A farmer talked about a brown sedan, '80... 498 00:42:17,621 --> 00:42:19,414 We knew... 499 00:42:23,001 --> 00:42:26,421 Was that who they played with? 500 00:42:30,884 --> 00:42:34,096 She wrote a bit how the games we found 501 00:42:35,097 --> 00:42:39,768 got people worried that kids were getting killed playing this stuff 502 00:42:42,312 --> 00:42:43,856 or something... 503 00:42:47,442 --> 00:42:52,489 Henry was five or six, I think, when she started writing. 504 00:42:52,614 --> 00:42:56,743 And Becca would've been three or four... 505 00:43:07,379 --> 00:43:12,009 Scientists now theorize an infinite number of dimensions outside our own. 506 00:43:14,136 --> 00:43:16,096 Einstein said: 507 00:43:16,180 --> 00:43:21,268 "Past, present and future are all a stubbornly persistent illusion." 508 00:43:24,271 --> 00:43:27,357 Oh God. 509 00:43:27,983 --> 00:43:31,069 And are you waking up to that illusion? 510 00:43:31,570 --> 00:43:37,034 Now, while things fall apart, are you starting to see them clearly? 511 00:43:38,285 --> 00:43:43,916 And at the end of all things are you awakening to what you withheld? 512 00:43:46,376 --> 00:43:50,255 Did you confuse reacting with feeling? 513 00:43:51,089 --> 00:43:54,134 Did you mistake compulsion for freedom? 514 00:43:55,385 --> 00:43:58,138 Please. Not like this... 515 00:43:59,431 --> 00:44:01,600 And even so... 516 00:44:02,643 --> 00:44:05,729 ...did you harden your heart against what loved you most? 517 00:44:06,980 --> 00:44:10,776 Not like this. Not like this. 518 00:44:11,318 --> 00:44:12,945 Sweetheart... 519 00:44:14,905 --> 00:44:16,907 Did you think you could just go on, 520 00:44:17,032 --> 00:44:19,868 and never once have to look back? 521 00:44:20,285 --> 00:44:23,789 Please... I don't deserve this. 522 00:44:24,540 --> 00:44:27,251 What's happening? I don't deserve this. 523 00:44:27,334 --> 00:44:31,046 No, you don't. But it's happening anyway. 524 00:44:32,381 --> 00:44:34,424 I'm so sorry. 525 00:44:40,889 --> 00:44:42,641 Where's it... I... 526 00:44:45,394 --> 00:44:48,897 How much do I have to lose? 527 00:44:49,106 --> 00:44:52,901 Everything. The same as everybody else. 528 00:44:58,740 --> 00:45:00,450 I lost Becca. 529 00:45:01,034 --> 00:45:04,663 No, you didn't. Not the way you think. 530 00:45:10,961 --> 00:45:13,547 You're worried what they'll find. 531 00:45:14,715 --> 00:45:16,967 What you left in the woods. 532 00:45:21,263 --> 00:45:23,348 Finish it. 533 00:46:32,876 --> 00:46:35,921 Got a message. A Lieutenant wanted to meet you. 534 00:46:40,843 --> 00:46:42,344 Movin' up in the world. 535 00:47:14,418 --> 00:47:17,212 No, I don't recognize them. 536 00:47:19,423 --> 00:47:21,049 I think. I mean... 537 00:47:23,343 --> 00:47:25,846 I know I didn't buy any of these... 538 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:27,931 Ma'am? 539 00:47:29,558 --> 00:47:30,851 I don't think so. 540 00:47:32,394 --> 00:47:35,898 - I don't really remember. - I'm the one bought 'em toys. 541 00:47:35,981 --> 00:47:38,066 I don't recognize any of those. 542 00:47:41,695 --> 00:47:43,238 This about the reward? 543 00:47:44,364 --> 00:47:45,741 Someone called us. 544 00:47:49,286 --> 00:47:51,121 What's it have to do with... 545 00:47:51,580 --> 00:47:53,749 Where'd you find these? 546 00:47:56,084 --> 00:48:00,797 Looks like the kids had this kind of play area, hidden in the forest. 547 00:48:02,257 --> 00:48:06,345 - Found these toys there. - They could be anybody's. 548 00:48:07,346 --> 00:48:09,473 Had the kids' prints on 'em. 549 00:48:11,016 --> 00:48:13,685 Another set of prints we can't ID. 550 00:48:14,311 --> 00:48:16,480 And more of those straw dolls. 551 00:48:18,106 --> 00:48:22,361 They were meeting somebody, some adult? 552 00:48:22,945 --> 00:48:25,072 Maybe. Yessir. 553 00:48:25,364 --> 00:48:26,573 What're these? 554 00:48:29,034 --> 00:48:31,119 We haven't see these. 555 00:48:31,370 --> 00:48:33,664 S'old baby albums... 556 00:48:34,206 --> 00:48:36,041 He brought it out. I... 557 00:48:36,625 --> 00:48:38,836 I can't look at it. 558 00:48:46,009 --> 00:48:47,761 Roland. 559 00:49:03,777 --> 00:49:05,529 It's the same. 560 00:49:29,386 --> 00:49:31,597 What's this one from? 561 00:49:32,347 --> 00:49:35,058 That's Will's first communion. 562 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,687 He was ten... 563 00:49:41,815 --> 00:49:43,400 What? 564 00:49:50,157 --> 00:49:51,200 What? 565 00:50:17,017 --> 00:50:21,396 Purple Hays. How 'you been, killer? 566 00:50:24,525 --> 00:50:28,070 Just making my rounds of places I'm not wanted. 567 00:50:30,155 --> 00:50:32,908 - Dub SoCo. - You served? 568 00:50:32,991 --> 00:50:35,577 - Every day of my life. - What war? 569 00:50:35,702 --> 00:50:39,081 Motherfucker, get me two fingers of Southern Comfort. 570 00:50:39,164 --> 00:50:41,625 He's a lieutenant with state police. 571 00:50:49,758 --> 00:50:53,345 Coulda told him you fixed Jeeps while the rest of us were gettin' shot at. 572 00:50:53,512 --> 00:50:56,473 Coulda slapped my dick on the bar, too. 573 00:50:57,808 --> 00:51:00,185 Nine years. You're still talkin' about your dick. 574 00:51:00,269 --> 00:51:03,355 I don't mean to. It just keeps coming up. 575 00:51:11,113 --> 00:51:12,906 New task force. 576 00:51:13,866 --> 00:51:15,951 I'm in charge. 577 00:51:18,787 --> 00:51:20,622 Good for you, Lieutenant. 578 00:51:23,417 --> 00:51:24,751 Say... 579 00:51:27,087 --> 00:51:29,381 That promotion for merit... 580 00:51:30,549 --> 00:51:33,093 ...or did it come with the pigmentation? 581 00:51:34,178 --> 00:51:38,015 I think, unlike some others, I lacked a big fucking mouth. 582 00:51:38,891 --> 00:51:43,645 Hell, with Affirmative Action, you coulda been my boss by now. 583 00:51:44,688 --> 00:51:47,482 Guess if I'd been clumsy enough to get shot, 584 00:51:47,816 --> 00:51:50,360 I'd be playing golf most days 585 00:51:50,444 --> 00:51:53,864 and calling old buddies like I'm doing them a favor. 586 00:51:55,908 --> 00:51:58,911 I guess you had a few 'fore I got here. 587 00:52:01,371 --> 00:52:03,373 Could be avoiding home. 588 00:52:09,671 --> 00:52:12,424 I was gonna keep goin', some race bit. 589 00:52:12,841 --> 00:52:15,052 You never been very funny. 590 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,975 You feel like maybe being a detective again? 591 00:52:25,979 --> 00:52:29,566 'Cause that, you were okay at. 592 00:52:32,069 --> 00:52:33,487 The Purcell case? 593 00:52:34,238 --> 00:52:36,532 State's reopening it. 594 00:52:36,990 --> 00:52:38,992 They want me to steer. 595 00:52:39,535 --> 00:52:42,746 Lookit you. 'Can't stop this rocket. 596 00:52:45,457 --> 00:52:48,168 You want to get back to work or not? 597 00:52:58,720 --> 00:52:59,763 I... 598 00:53:01,557 --> 00:53:04,184 I'm sorry about that pigmentation line. 599 00:53:04,935 --> 00:53:06,770 No, you're not. 600 00:53:07,813 --> 00:53:09,731 Half sorry.