1 00:01:49,026 --> 00:01:52,486 Joanna called. She said we should meet her at the courthouse garage. 2 00:01:53,405 --> 00:01:54,525 Joanna? 3 00:01:54,615 --> 00:01:56,825 Klein. The defense attorney I told you about. 4 00:01:58,076 --> 00:02:00,116 She knows the system better than anyone. 5 00:02:30,025 --> 00:02:31,185 Oh, my God. 6 00:02:51,338 --> 00:02:52,378 Andy. 7 00:02:54,716 --> 00:02:57,216 Laurie, I'm Joanna Klein. 8 00:02:57,302 --> 00:02:58,602 Pleased to meet you. 9 00:02:58,679 --> 00:03:01,179 I'm so sorry for what you're going through. 10 00:03:01,932 --> 00:03:02,932 Thank you. 11 00:03:04,268 --> 00:03:06,518 I have coffees in the car in case you need one. 12 00:03:06,603 --> 00:03:07,863 No, that's okay. 13 00:03:07,938 --> 00:03:10,268 - Has Jacob arrived yet? - He's on his way. 14 00:03:10,357 --> 00:03:11,647 How is he this morning? 15 00:03:12,359 --> 00:03:15,279 He's scared, but he is okay. 16 00:03:17,030 --> 00:03:19,780 Andy, you've been through this before, but never from this side. 17 00:03:19,867 --> 00:03:23,997 And, Laurie, this will all be new to you, so I'm gonna read you both the catechism. 18 00:03:24,705 --> 00:03:25,785 From this moment on, 19 00:03:25,873 --> 00:03:28,583 until you are back home with the door closed behind you, 20 00:03:28,667 --> 00:03:31,997 I want you to show no emotion at all. 21 00:03:32,796 --> 00:03:34,006 Nothing. 22 00:03:34,089 --> 00:03:37,679 I know it's a lot to ask, but it's important, okay? 23 00:03:38,302 --> 00:03:39,682 We're potted plants. 24 00:03:39,761 --> 00:03:41,141 Laurie? 25 00:03:42,806 --> 00:03:43,846 Yes. 26 00:03:43,932 --> 00:03:48,402 Unfortunately, every expression, every reaction will be interpreted against you. 27 00:03:49,563 --> 00:03:53,983 Smile and they'll say you're not taking it seriously. 28 00:03:54,735 --> 00:03:58,275 You cry and they'll say you're faking it. 29 00:03:58,780 --> 00:04:02,370 Do not answer any questions they shout at you. 30 00:04:02,993 --> 00:04:06,083 On TV, only the pictures matter. 31 00:04:16,089 --> 00:04:17,879 And most important, 32 00:04:17,966 --> 00:04:21,966 any sign of anger, particularly from Jacob, 33 00:04:22,053 --> 00:04:25,063 will confirm people's worst suspicions. 34 00:04:25,140 --> 00:04:29,810 You have to remember that, in their eyes, it isn't just Jacob who's guilty. 35 00:04:30,354 --> 00:04:31,484 You all are. 36 00:04:33,106 --> 00:04:37,236 They're looking for confirmation, so don't give it to them. 37 00:04:38,278 --> 00:04:39,528 Okay. 38 00:04:39,613 --> 00:04:42,073 Remember, poker faces. 39 00:04:45,661 --> 00:04:46,871 - You ready? - Yeah. 40 00:04:46,954 --> 00:04:47,964 Okay. 41 00:04:54,336 --> 00:04:55,666 There they are! 42 00:04:55,754 --> 00:04:57,464 The Barbers. Grab the camera! 43 00:04:57,548 --> 00:05:00,218 Mr. and Mrs. Barber, when did you last speak to Jacob? 44 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:02,180 We're live on the air! 45 00:05:05,180 --> 00:05:08,020 Mrs. Barber, when was the last time you saw your son? 46 00:05:10,185 --> 00:05:11,395 How's the family? 47 00:05:12,396 --> 00:05:14,516 How's the arrest affected your family? 48 00:05:20,487 --> 00:05:22,067 Just how are you doing? 49 00:05:24,283 --> 00:05:26,663 - Oh, my God. - Are you okay? 50 00:05:26,743 --> 00:05:27,833 Yeah. 51 00:06:06,533 --> 00:06:08,493 In ten minutes or something like that? 52 00:06:08,577 --> 00:06:11,407 This one should go pretty quick. You know, ten minutes or so. 53 00:06:18,462 --> 00:06:19,592 Now what? 54 00:06:20,589 --> 00:06:21,799 Now we wait. 55 00:06:26,678 --> 00:06:28,388 Your attention, please. 56 00:06:28,472 --> 00:06:32,602 As you all know, last night the terrible tragedy that struck our community 57 00:06:32,684 --> 00:06:36,154 was compounded in a way that is truly difficult to fathom. 58 00:06:36,230 --> 00:06:40,070 I'm referring to the arrest of Jacob Barber, an eighth-grader here at Archer. 59 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:45,859 I want to stress how important it is we not jump to conclusions. 60 00:06:46,281 --> 00:06:49,661 This means ignoring rumors and refraining from spreading rumors. 61 00:06:50,786 --> 00:06:52,786 That said, 62 00:06:52,871 --> 00:06:57,001 if you do have information you feel would be of help to the investigation, 63 00:06:57,084 --> 00:07:00,094 the police have asked that you contact them immediately. 64 00:07:00,170 --> 00:07:03,800 You can do this directly or through our guidance center. 65 00:07:34,454 --> 00:07:37,214 Hear ye! Hear ye! All rise. 66 00:07:37,291 --> 00:07:40,751 The Honorable Justice Rivera presiding. 67 00:07:40,836 --> 00:07:43,666 This court is now open. Please be seated. 68 00:07:46,216 --> 00:07:48,336 Good morning. Let's get started. 69 00:07:48,427 --> 00:07:49,887 Bring in the defendant. 70 00:08:10,365 --> 00:08:13,905 Indictment number 08-44-07. 71 00:08:13,994 --> 00:08:16,214 Commonwealth versus Jacob Owen Barber. 72 00:08:17,039 --> 00:08:20,039 The charge is one count of murder in the first degree. 73 00:08:20,125 --> 00:08:21,835 Is the Commonwealth ready? 74 00:08:21,919 --> 00:08:23,669 Yes, it is, Your Honor. 75 00:08:27,174 --> 00:08:30,724 - Ms. Klein, how does the defendant plea? - Jacob. 76 00:08:33,347 --> 00:08:34,847 Not guilty, Your Honor. 77 00:08:34,932 --> 00:08:37,062 Let's go to bail arguments. Commonwealth? 78 00:08:37,142 --> 00:08:39,062 Yes, Your Honor. If I may, 79 00:08:39,144 --> 00:08:42,484 we all know the defendant's father, who is here with us today. 80 00:08:42,563 --> 00:08:44,943 We all have fond feelings towards Mr. Barber. 81 00:08:45,025 --> 00:08:47,775 I, for one, have considered him to be a mentor for many years. 82 00:08:47,861 --> 00:08:52,201 Mr. Logiudice, I presume you know Mr. Barber isn't accused of anything. 83 00:08:53,075 --> 00:08:54,275 Of course, Your Honor. 84 00:08:54,368 --> 00:08:56,748 But his history with this case is of great relevance 85 00:08:56,828 --> 00:08:58,908 to the argument I'd like to make regarding bail. 86 00:08:58,997 --> 00:09:00,417 Make it then, counselor. 87 00:09:00,499 --> 00:09:01,999 Yes, Your Honor. 88 00:09:02,084 --> 00:09:05,844 Commonwealth seeks a bail in the amount of 500,000 cash, 89 00:09:05,921 --> 00:09:07,211 five million surety. 90 00:09:07,297 --> 00:09:09,007 Oh, come on. 91 00:09:09,091 --> 00:09:12,051 Commonwealth feels the defendant poses a particular risk of flight 92 00:09:12,135 --> 00:09:13,845 in light of the savagery of the crime 93 00:09:13,929 --> 00:09:15,889 and the overwhelming likelihood of his conviction. 94 00:09:15,973 --> 00:09:20,143 Your Honor, the defendant has no priors. He has no history of arrests. 95 00:09:20,227 --> 00:09:24,147 The court does not consider the defendant a flight risk in the least. 96 00:09:24,231 --> 00:09:26,191 Bail is set exactly where it was yesterday. 97 00:09:26,275 --> 00:09:28,855 Ten thousand. A hundred thousand surety. 98 00:09:28,944 --> 00:09:32,034 I'll be sending this case to Judge French for trial, 99 00:09:32,114 --> 00:09:34,914 with pretrial set for August 21st. 100 00:09:35,951 --> 00:09:37,241 Thank you, Your Honor. 101 00:09:43,041 --> 00:09:45,441 - What happens now? - It's okay. They're just gonna take him. 102 00:09:45,502 --> 00:09:47,802 It's just procedural. We'll see him in a minute. 103 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,130 Let's go. 104 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,470 When you get home, there are gonna be reporters. 105 00:09:57,556 --> 00:09:59,926 My assistant Ellen will swing by with some groceries, 106 00:10:00,017 --> 00:10:01,477 but you can't stay shut in. 107 00:10:01,560 --> 00:10:04,730 Tomorrow you'll run a couple of errands, you'll fill up the tank. Whatever. 108 00:10:04,813 --> 00:10:07,943 Just let them get their pictures and they'll leave you alone. 109 00:10:10,027 --> 00:10:11,897 There's one more thing for you to sign. 110 00:10:18,535 --> 00:10:20,905 - Sign here, please. - Sorry. 111 00:10:29,505 --> 00:10:31,085 Get close. He's coming out. 112 00:10:33,509 --> 00:10:34,889 Jacob! Jacob! 113 00:10:34,968 --> 00:10:37,798 Hey, hey, hey! Listen. Move, please. 114 00:10:37,888 --> 00:10:39,928 Give us a little room here, please. 115 00:10:42,935 --> 00:10:46,225 Out of the way. Get out of the way. 116 00:10:47,064 --> 00:10:49,404 Give 'em some space, please. 117 00:10:56,114 --> 00:10:57,954 Can we get a comment, please? 118 00:10:59,284 --> 00:11:00,914 Jacob, tell us how you're doing. 119 00:11:00,994 --> 00:11:02,044 Well? 120 00:11:03,497 --> 00:11:06,207 This makes it sound like we hardly know each other. 121 00:11:06,667 --> 00:11:08,837 I don't know. I thought it read well. 122 00:11:09,753 --> 00:11:11,763 Your campaign manager thinks it's the right tone. 123 00:11:11,839 --> 00:11:14,839 Well, he doesn't give a shit who gets hurt, so long as it's not us. 124 00:11:15,968 --> 00:11:19,138 I'm sorry. It's just... 125 00:11:20,264 --> 00:11:23,314 It's usually Andy whose advice I ask on things like this. 126 00:11:24,685 --> 00:11:26,135 In a million years... 127 00:11:26,645 --> 00:11:28,685 You need to issue some kind of statement. 128 00:11:28,772 --> 00:11:30,362 I know. 129 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,400 So, hit send? 130 00:11:40,617 --> 00:11:41,867 It's the Barbers. 131 00:11:43,537 --> 00:11:45,247 They're here. Let's go. Let's go. 132 00:11:45,330 --> 00:11:50,000 That's right. Look out. They're coming. Closer, okay? Come on. You got it? 133 00:12:07,978 --> 00:12:09,728 I don't have the heart to wake him. 134 00:12:15,194 --> 00:12:16,324 Jacob, honey. 135 00:12:21,742 --> 00:12:22,872 We're home. 136 00:12:31,168 --> 00:12:33,838 Are you hungry? Can I make you something? 137 00:12:33,921 --> 00:12:35,671 No, I just kinda wanna sleep. 138 00:12:35,756 --> 00:12:37,166 Yeah. 139 00:12:37,257 --> 00:12:40,217 Hey. We're really proud of you. 140 00:12:40,719 --> 00:12:43,679 The way you stood up there today, that took a lot of guts. 141 00:12:43,764 --> 00:12:45,314 It was pretty scary. 142 00:12:46,308 --> 00:12:47,808 It's okay now. 143 00:12:47,893 --> 00:12:49,103 Go rest. 144 00:12:53,857 --> 00:12:58,567 And... I never got my phone back from the police. 145 00:12:59,238 --> 00:13:02,738 All right, we'll get you another one. Maybe a new laptop too. 146 00:13:03,825 --> 00:13:04,985 They took my computer? 147 00:13:05,077 --> 00:13:07,157 Yeah. It's just something that happens when... 148 00:13:07,996 --> 00:13:09,706 It's just something that happens. 149 00:13:11,834 --> 00:13:13,004 Okay. 150 00:13:18,799 --> 00:13:19,799 Hello? 151 00:13:21,885 --> 00:13:23,385 Oh, my God. 152 00:13:23,470 --> 00:13:24,640 Who is this? 153 00:13:32,896 --> 00:13:35,936 I'll call the phone company tomorrow and have them change the number. 154 00:14:22,279 --> 00:14:24,619 Hey. I had to speak to that lawyer again today. 155 00:14:24,698 --> 00:14:26,238 The one in charge of Jacob's case. 156 00:14:26,825 --> 00:14:28,285 He keeps calling me. 157 00:14:30,245 --> 00:14:32,655 - Sarah, are you there? - Yeah. 158 00:14:33,498 --> 00:14:36,418 Listen, I got homework, so I gotta go. 159 00:14:43,634 --> 00:14:45,514 In my experience, what we saw today, 160 00:14:45,594 --> 00:14:48,355 the body language, the cold stare, the avoidance of any eye contact... 161 00:14:50,474 --> 00:14:53,244 it's not a good look for someone accused of a crime of this magnitude. 162 00:14:53,268 --> 00:14:56,558 He's out cold. Probably sleep through the whole night. 163 00:14:57,606 --> 00:14:59,606 And quite frankly, it confirms a lot... 164 00:14:59,691 --> 00:15:01,491 I don't think this is a good idea. 165 00:15:02,819 --> 00:15:05,459 Have you seen what they're saying online? What they're calling him? 166 00:15:05,531 --> 00:15:06,991 We gotta block this stuff out. 167 00:15:07,074 --> 00:15:09,124 They're saying he looks smug and remorseless. 168 00:15:09,201 --> 00:15:11,331 - He's not even 15 years old. - Oh, honey, 169 00:15:11,411 --> 00:15:13,081 it's par for the course. 170 00:15:13,163 --> 00:15:14,833 What's gonna happen when he sees this? 171 00:15:14,915 --> 00:15:16,915 Nothing's ever going to be the same for him again. 172 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,500 This is gonna follow him around for the rest of his life. 173 00:15:19,586 --> 00:15:20,836 Laurie. 174 00:15:21,964 --> 00:15:23,014 What? 175 00:15:30,597 --> 00:15:31,847 What, Andy? 176 00:15:32,891 --> 00:15:33,891 Listen. 177 00:15:37,271 --> 00:15:39,361 I have to tell you something. 178 00:15:39,439 --> 00:15:41,439 Something that's gonna come out soon. 179 00:15:43,026 --> 00:15:44,236 About Jacob? 180 00:15:48,198 --> 00:15:49,318 About me. 181 00:15:51,285 --> 00:15:52,615 My family. 182 00:15:54,997 --> 00:15:55,997 My father. 183 00:16:10,429 --> 00:16:13,809 Jacob, before we begin, I wanna make something clear. 184 00:16:13,891 --> 00:16:15,481 You're the client here. 185 00:16:15,559 --> 00:16:19,859 That means that as much as possible, you are the decision maker. 186 00:16:19,938 --> 00:16:22,398 Not your parents, not me. You. 187 00:16:23,483 --> 00:16:27,073 To the extent you want to leave the decision-making up to your mom and dad, 188 00:16:27,154 --> 00:16:28,204 that's understandable. 189 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,120 But by law in Massachusetts, 190 00:16:30,199 --> 00:16:34,909 a kid your age charged with first-degree murder is tried as an adult. 191 00:16:35,412 --> 00:16:39,292 So I'm gonna do my best to treat you as an adult too, okay? 192 00:16:40,334 --> 00:16:41,714 - Okay. - Now then. 193 00:16:42,294 --> 00:16:46,844 The theory seems to be that Ben Rifkin was bullying you. 194 00:16:46,924 --> 00:16:48,094 You got a knife, 195 00:16:48,175 --> 00:16:51,385 and, when the opportunity presented itself, took your revenge. 196 00:16:51,470 --> 00:16:53,310 Wait, he was bullying you? 197 00:16:54,056 --> 00:16:56,806 Not really. I mean, kind of, but... 198 00:16:56,892 --> 00:16:59,287 - What do you mean, kind of? - You never said anything until now. 199 00:16:59,311 --> 00:17:01,271 - Why haven't you told us? - I don't... 200 00:17:02,439 --> 00:17:04,939 He was a dick to a lot of people. Not just me. 201 00:17:05,025 --> 00:17:07,085 Well, you still should've told us. How was he bullying you? 202 00:17:07,109 --> 00:17:08,819 Andy, Laurie. Please. 203 00:17:10,614 --> 00:17:13,034 Now, as for the attack itself, 204 00:17:13,659 --> 00:17:16,289 there don't seem to be any witnesses. 205 00:17:16,369 --> 00:17:18,789 You have admitted to being in the park. 206 00:17:18,872 --> 00:17:21,212 And a fellow student alleges you had a knife 207 00:17:21,290 --> 00:17:22,840 you would bring to school on occasion. 208 00:17:22,917 --> 00:17:24,837 That would be Derek. Derek Yoo. 209 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,130 So it is a very circumstantial case. 210 00:17:28,214 --> 00:17:30,054 Now, there's the fingerprint. 211 00:17:30,133 --> 00:17:32,893 But fingerprints are a very limited form of evidence. 212 00:17:32,970 --> 00:17:35,180 Often there's an innocent explanation. 213 00:17:35,973 --> 00:17:37,433 So you feel confident? 214 00:17:39,268 --> 00:17:40,888 There's one other thing. 215 00:17:41,562 --> 00:17:42,692 Laurie? 216 00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:46,820 I have to tell you something. 217 00:17:56,910 --> 00:18:00,330 You said yourself it's going to come out. We're going to have to deal with it. 218 00:18:00,414 --> 00:18:02,834 Better he hear it from us now than see it on the news. 219 00:18:02,916 --> 00:18:05,206 I'm sorry. Deal with what? 220 00:18:09,798 --> 00:18:10,798 Mom? 221 00:18:14,553 --> 00:18:17,763 Apparently, there's a history of violence in our family. 222 00:18:19,057 --> 00:18:22,187 Honey, I'm sorry you have to find out this way, but it's true. 223 00:18:23,020 --> 00:18:25,230 Sorry about this, Joanna. This is my fault. 224 00:18:25,314 --> 00:18:28,194 - Laurie just heard about this last night. - Heard about what? 225 00:18:31,153 --> 00:18:33,363 My father, your grandfather... 226 00:18:36,074 --> 00:18:37,164 He's in prison. 227 00:18:37,618 --> 00:18:39,538 He's been there for a very long time. 228 00:18:39,620 --> 00:18:41,710 Last time I saw him I was six years old. 229 00:18:41,788 --> 00:18:44,328 My mother took me to see him in prison right after his arrest. 230 00:18:44,416 --> 00:18:46,336 You said he left when you were just a baby. 231 00:18:46,418 --> 00:18:50,208 That's what I told everybody growing up. It's the same lie my mother told people. 232 00:18:51,173 --> 00:18:53,723 But you said you never knew your father. 233 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:54,970 I know. 234 00:18:56,637 --> 00:18:57,967 I was ashamed of him. 235 00:18:58,931 --> 00:19:00,181 So you lied to me. 236 00:19:00,265 --> 00:19:01,725 So you've been lying to me. 237 00:19:01,808 --> 00:19:03,518 I'm so sorry, Laurie. 238 00:19:04,686 --> 00:19:07,186 I did not tell you the whole truth. No. 239 00:19:10,984 --> 00:19:12,154 What did he do? 240 00:19:20,744 --> 00:19:22,004 He killed a girl. 241 00:19:24,206 --> 00:19:25,706 Who was she? 242 00:19:25,791 --> 00:19:27,841 She was a student at the community college. 243 00:19:27,918 --> 00:19:31,418 They found her body in a boarded-up row house on Congress Ave. 244 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,840 She had been stabbed to death. 245 00:19:33,924 --> 00:19:35,304 What? 246 00:19:38,679 --> 00:19:41,349 I wanted to tell you so many times, Laurie. I swear. 247 00:19:42,641 --> 00:19:43,681 Then why didn't you? 248 00:19:43,767 --> 00:19:45,937 It's just what I come from. It's not who I am. 249 00:19:46,019 --> 00:19:48,609 Seventeen years, Andy? You didn't trust me to understand that? 250 00:19:48,689 --> 00:19:52,229 I was afraid that if I said anything it would change the way you saw me. 251 00:19:52,317 --> 00:19:54,796 And then it would have been for nothing because it means nothing. 252 00:19:54,820 --> 00:19:56,200 Does it? 253 00:20:07,082 --> 00:20:08,712 Now I understand. 254 00:20:11,128 --> 00:20:14,628 I'm not saying Logiudice won't try to dredge this up in some capacity, 255 00:20:14,715 --> 00:20:16,335 but he won't get anywhere with it. 256 00:20:16,884 --> 00:20:19,224 Except maybe in the court of public opinion. 257 00:20:19,303 --> 00:20:20,763 Are you sure? 258 00:20:21,305 --> 00:20:23,675 Laurie's concerned that the prosecution will somehow argue 259 00:20:23,765 --> 00:20:26,015 a genetic predisposition. 260 00:20:26,101 --> 00:20:28,191 I was reading about it online this morning. 261 00:20:28,729 --> 00:20:30,769 Apparently, there have been cases like this 262 00:20:30,856 --> 00:20:33,186 where that kind of thing has been used as evidence. 263 00:20:33,275 --> 00:20:34,515 They call it the "murder gene." 264 00:20:34,568 --> 00:20:36,028 That's ridiculous. 265 00:20:36,111 --> 00:20:38,031 You think I have the murder gene? 266 00:20:38,113 --> 00:20:39,913 No. It's just a phrase. 267 00:20:40,324 --> 00:20:43,794 Our only worry is if something like this could be used against you. 268 00:20:43,869 --> 00:20:45,949 I highly doubt it would be admissible. 269 00:20:46,038 --> 00:20:47,478 That doesn't mean they wouldn't try, 270 00:20:47,539 --> 00:20:49,459 but if they do, we will fight it tooth and nail. 271 00:20:49,541 --> 00:20:51,921 I have to go to the bathroom. I don't feel good. 272 00:20:52,002 --> 00:20:55,052 Mary, would you please show Jacob where the bathroom is? 273 00:20:55,130 --> 00:20:56,170 Yeah, of course. 274 00:20:57,799 --> 00:20:58,929 Right this way. 275 00:21:02,638 --> 00:21:05,138 Jesus Christ. Did you have to bring it up right now? 276 00:21:05,891 --> 00:21:07,431 He has a right to the truth. 277 00:21:07,893 --> 00:21:10,563 I won't tolerate any more lying. Not from you, not from him. 278 00:21:10,646 --> 00:21:14,146 - From him? What, the bullying? - He never said a word about it. 279 00:21:14,233 --> 00:21:16,403 He made it sound like they barely knew each other. 280 00:21:16,485 --> 00:21:18,505 - And the fingerprint... - He explained the fingerprint. 281 00:21:18,529 --> 00:21:21,949 - He found the body, and he panicked. - He never said a word about that either. 282 00:21:22,032 --> 00:21:24,702 I just think we all need to come clean with each other. 283 00:21:25,369 --> 00:21:26,749 No more secrets. 284 00:21:32,626 --> 00:21:34,996 Maybe this is enough for today. 285 00:21:41,051 --> 00:21:42,931 - Here you go. - Appreciate it. 286 00:21:44,012 --> 00:21:45,682 You should've told me. 287 00:21:46,098 --> 00:21:49,138 Sweetheart, we're all still figuring out how to process all of this. 288 00:21:49,226 --> 00:21:50,636 I didn't tell anyone, Jake. 289 00:21:51,228 --> 00:21:53,228 I was afraid of how people would look at me. 290 00:21:53,313 --> 00:21:55,333 Just like now I'm afraid of how people will look at you. 291 00:21:55,357 --> 00:21:56,687 Why shouldn't they? 292 00:21:57,901 --> 00:21:58,991 It's who I am, right? 293 00:21:59,069 --> 00:22:00,739 - Jacob. - It's okay. 294 00:22:01,780 --> 00:22:03,820 He's angry at me, and I don't blame him. 295 00:22:07,578 --> 00:22:08,908 That's not who you are. 296 00:22:10,163 --> 00:22:11,713 How do you know? 297 00:22:13,125 --> 00:22:15,375 Maybe Mom is right. Maybe I'm... 298 00:22:15,460 --> 00:22:17,710 - Maybe I've got the murder gene. - I never said that. 299 00:22:17,796 --> 00:22:19,376 The murder gene is bullshit. 300 00:22:19,464 --> 00:22:21,014 Maybe not. Maybe I'm just like him. 301 00:22:21,091 --> 00:22:22,181 Hey! 302 00:22:23,260 --> 00:22:24,800 Enough, okay? 303 00:22:24,887 --> 00:22:28,137 He's one guy, one bad man. He has nothing to do with you. 304 00:22:28,223 --> 00:22:30,273 Don't you see? This is what I was worried about. 305 00:22:30,350 --> 00:22:31,810 This is why I kept it from you. 306 00:22:31,894 --> 00:22:33,564 You had a right to not know. 307 00:22:33,645 --> 00:22:37,015 To start with a clean slate. Not have it hanging over your head like... 308 00:22:38,442 --> 00:22:39,782 Thank you. 309 00:22:43,655 --> 00:22:44,655 Thank you. 310 00:22:49,578 --> 00:22:50,578 Shit. 311 00:23:02,466 --> 00:23:03,506 Just ignore it. 312 00:23:35,165 --> 00:23:36,285 Andy. 313 00:23:37,084 --> 00:23:39,384 I'm sorry. I didn't... I thought you'd be alone. 314 00:23:39,461 --> 00:23:41,261 I get her every other week. 315 00:23:41,672 --> 00:23:43,802 It's okay, sweetheart. It's a friend from work. 316 00:23:44,883 --> 00:23:45,973 Wait here. 317 00:23:46,051 --> 00:23:48,601 Come on. Let's go inside. You can watch some TV. 318 00:24:05,237 --> 00:24:06,487 She's gotten big. 319 00:24:06,572 --> 00:24:07,992 Let's talk out back. 320 00:24:12,077 --> 00:24:14,437 The fuck are you doing here? You trying to get me suspended? 321 00:24:14,496 --> 00:24:16,456 - I need your help. - With what? 322 00:24:16,540 --> 00:24:17,670 Leonard Patz. 323 00:24:17,749 --> 00:24:18,919 Jesus Christ, Andy. 324 00:24:19,001 --> 00:24:21,171 Come on, Duff. We both know there were red flags there. 325 00:24:21,253 --> 00:24:22,463 Don't say that. 326 00:24:22,546 --> 00:24:24,126 - Say what? - Shit like "we both know." 327 00:24:24,214 --> 00:24:26,359 You know that if Lynn hadn't moved on to Jacob so fast, 328 00:24:26,383 --> 00:24:28,933 - Patz would still be on your radar. - How do you know he's not? 329 00:24:29,970 --> 00:24:30,970 Is he? 330 00:24:31,471 --> 00:24:33,831 I haven't forgotten about him, if that's what you're asking. 331 00:24:34,224 --> 00:24:35,894 But he's not a priority. 332 00:24:36,894 --> 00:24:38,104 Not anymore. No. 333 00:24:38,187 --> 00:24:40,267 - He is to me. - I don't doubt that. 334 00:24:41,148 --> 00:24:42,648 What exactly are you getting at? 335 00:24:42,733 --> 00:24:45,403 I wanna dig deeper into Leonard Patz. I wanna see his case file. 336 00:24:45,485 --> 00:24:46,605 So? 337 00:24:46,695 --> 00:24:48,155 So, you seized my computer. 338 00:24:49,072 --> 00:24:50,662 No one would need to know. 339 00:24:50,741 --> 00:24:52,901 Even if they did, it's not illegal. It's just improper. 340 00:24:52,951 --> 00:24:55,751 Yeah, I'll remember that when I'm writing speeding tickets on the Pike. 341 00:24:55,787 --> 00:24:57,117 - Please, Duff. - No. 342 00:24:57,206 --> 00:24:58,433 I get why you're pursuing this. 343 00:24:58,457 --> 00:25:01,457 I'd probably do the same thing if I was in your shoes, but I'm not. 344 00:25:02,961 --> 00:25:04,801 I'm asking you as a friend. 345 00:25:05,297 --> 00:25:06,627 All I need is his file. 346 00:25:08,634 --> 00:25:09,804 A friend? 347 00:25:10,302 --> 00:25:11,392 What? 348 00:25:11,470 --> 00:25:14,350 Come on, man. We worked together. It's not like we ever hung out. 349 00:25:14,932 --> 00:25:17,812 The first time I set foot in your house was with a warrant. 350 00:25:20,312 --> 00:25:21,692 Wow, that's... 351 00:25:23,232 --> 00:25:26,612 I always thought we were friends. I'm sorry you didn't feel the same way. 352 00:25:27,319 --> 00:25:29,005 Look, don't get me wrong. You're a good guy. 353 00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:31,699 But if this is what you think an actual friendship is, 354 00:25:31,782 --> 00:25:33,782 it's you I feel sorry for. 355 00:25:37,496 --> 00:25:38,496 Mama? 356 00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:40,919 - Yeah, I'm coming, sweetheart. - Okay. 357 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,090 Is that all or... 358 00:25:51,510 --> 00:25:52,510 Andy. 359 00:25:54,263 --> 00:25:55,353 Andy? 360 00:25:57,182 --> 00:25:58,232 Andy. 361 00:26:02,729 --> 00:26:06,729 I asked if you could describe for us the first few weeks after Jacob's arrest. 362 00:26:11,780 --> 00:26:13,160 Let's see. 363 00:26:15,993 --> 00:26:18,203 I think it started with a Sunday. 364 00:26:18,287 --> 00:26:19,707 Then a Monday. 365 00:26:20,664 --> 00:26:22,834 Pretty sure a Tuesday came next. 366 00:26:25,961 --> 00:26:27,131 Always stay precise, Neal. 367 00:26:27,212 --> 00:26:29,842 The scope of any query should be as narrow as possible. 368 00:26:29,923 --> 00:26:32,303 One of your many nuggets, yes. 369 00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:35,890 All right. I'll rephrase the question. 370 00:26:37,639 --> 00:26:41,139 Could you describe for us the atmosphere in your household 371 00:26:41,226 --> 00:26:42,936 in the weeks after Jacob's arrest? 372 00:26:43,020 --> 00:26:45,440 - The atmosphere? - Oh, God. 373 00:26:45,522 --> 00:26:48,192 Just make me say what you want me to say. It's not that hard. 374 00:26:48,275 --> 00:26:51,645 You wanna know if Jacob seemed guilty. Have the balls to ask it. 375 00:26:51,737 --> 00:26:54,197 All right. Did he? 376 00:26:54,281 --> 00:26:55,871 I have no idea. 377 00:26:56,658 --> 00:27:00,158 He was 14 years old. He had just been ripped away from his whole life. 378 00:27:00,245 --> 00:27:04,535 - His classmates, activities... - I'm sorry. His classmates? 379 00:27:05,083 --> 00:27:06,133 Yes. 380 00:27:06,210 --> 00:27:09,800 For a man so concerned with precision, I find it curious you didn't say friends. 381 00:27:10,297 --> 00:27:11,667 Oh, come on, Neal. 382 00:27:11,757 --> 00:27:13,677 - Jacob had friends then? - Yes. 383 00:27:15,552 --> 00:27:16,642 Some, yes. 384 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,350 Was Ben Rifkin a friend? 385 00:27:18,430 --> 00:27:21,770 No. He said that Ben could be a jerk to him sometimes. 386 00:27:22,392 --> 00:27:25,482 You know, just... name-calling. 387 00:27:25,979 --> 00:27:27,479 What sort of names? 388 00:27:29,441 --> 00:27:31,191 I don't know. The usual stuff. 389 00:27:31,610 --> 00:27:33,240 Did he call Jacob a "faggot"? 390 00:27:34,738 --> 00:27:35,778 Yes. 391 00:27:35,864 --> 00:27:37,284 More than once? 392 00:27:39,409 --> 00:27:41,199 That's my understanding. 393 00:27:44,122 --> 00:27:48,462 So, Jacob being removed from his routine affected his demeanor. 394 00:27:48,544 --> 00:27:49,964 - Is that right? - Yeah. 395 00:27:51,755 --> 00:27:54,085 Plus, being all over TV and the Internet, 396 00:27:54,758 --> 00:27:59,138 just sort of... shut down for a little while. 397 00:28:00,222 --> 00:28:01,562 At least initially. 398 00:28:03,684 --> 00:28:06,274 So he was aware of his burgeoning celebrity. 399 00:28:07,020 --> 00:28:08,060 Yeah. 400 00:28:09,106 --> 00:28:10,856 We urged him not to look. 401 00:28:12,276 --> 00:28:15,816 He stayed busy with schoolwork. Still eight weeks left in the school year. 402 00:28:15,904 --> 00:28:17,074 School? 403 00:28:19,575 --> 00:28:21,075 Yeah, we hired him a tutor. 404 00:28:22,077 --> 00:28:23,117 Mrs. Mandel. 405 00:28:23,203 --> 00:28:25,213 Was Jacob's second grade teacher, now retired. 406 00:28:25,289 --> 00:28:27,369 We figured that would make it less awkward. 407 00:28:27,457 --> 00:28:28,707 And did it? 408 00:28:28,792 --> 00:28:31,132 I don't know. Maybe. 409 00:28:31,211 --> 00:28:34,591 Like I said, he just kinda retreated into himself. 410 00:28:34,673 --> 00:28:36,013 We all did, to some degree. 411 00:28:39,011 --> 00:28:40,721 It's just a really hard time. 412 00:28:42,681 --> 00:28:43,891 For Laurie too? 413 00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:54,360 All I meant was that if you look at the true cost of a program like that, 414 00:28:54,443 --> 00:28:59,323 not just our direct expenses, but the staff salary, the additional... 415 00:29:00,199 --> 00:29:01,409 Laurie. 416 00:29:07,539 --> 00:29:08,829 How are you, Laurie? 417 00:29:10,751 --> 00:29:14,001 Not great, but glad to be back. 418 00:29:15,756 --> 00:29:16,876 May I... 419 00:29:18,509 --> 00:29:19,799 Sure, yes. 420 00:29:27,476 --> 00:29:29,726 We've all been thinking about you. 421 00:29:29,811 --> 00:29:32,311 We didn't expect to see you back so soon. 422 00:29:32,397 --> 00:29:35,187 Yeah, well, I could use the distraction. 423 00:29:35,859 --> 00:29:40,279 Staring at the walls half the day, I figured I could at least do some good. 424 00:29:43,158 --> 00:29:47,078 We were just reviewing our field trip budget for next year. 425 00:29:47,162 --> 00:29:48,372 Okay. 426 00:29:50,207 --> 00:29:51,457 What the fuck? 427 00:30:04,596 --> 00:30:06,676 - Do you have a minute? - Sure. 428 00:30:13,981 --> 00:30:18,901 I just got off of a conference call with some of our board members, 429 00:30:18,986 --> 00:30:21,026 including legal advisory. 430 00:30:21,613 --> 00:30:26,663 They all feel strongly that your return to work might be premature. 431 00:30:26,743 --> 00:30:28,753 Look, I'm fine. I swear. 432 00:30:28,829 --> 00:30:30,539 You're not hearing me, Laurie. 433 00:30:32,416 --> 00:30:36,376 This isn't gonna work for us. Not right now. 434 00:30:38,380 --> 00:30:41,300 You know how much we love you here. 435 00:30:41,967 --> 00:30:48,217 How grateful we are for everything you've done over these past, what, seven years? 436 00:30:48,307 --> 00:30:49,307 Eight. 437 00:30:50,350 --> 00:30:51,730 We just... 438 00:30:52,603 --> 00:30:54,523 We're a haven for these kids. 439 00:30:55,647 --> 00:30:58,317 We're supposed to be the safest place available to them. 440 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,940 And you feel my being here is somehow... 441 00:31:01,028 --> 00:31:02,608 No. Not you. 442 00:31:03,572 --> 00:31:04,822 It's more... 443 00:31:06,658 --> 00:31:12,038 The board is worried about any kind of negative association. 444 00:31:13,624 --> 00:31:16,544 We're skating on thin ice financially as it is. 445 00:31:19,922 --> 00:31:21,052 I see. 446 00:31:22,382 --> 00:31:25,222 This isn't necessarily permanent. 447 00:31:25,302 --> 00:31:27,802 No one is firing you. 448 00:31:27,888 --> 00:31:31,308 We just feel that now isn't the time. 449 00:31:32,476 --> 00:31:33,596 Not yet. 450 00:31:37,940 --> 00:31:38,980 Well, when then? 451 00:31:41,610 --> 00:31:42,610 I... 452 00:31:48,325 --> 00:31:50,405 I'm sorry, honey. 453 00:31:51,328 --> 00:31:53,908 For everything you're going through. 454 00:31:58,710 --> 00:32:00,000 Thank you. 455 00:32:17,729 --> 00:32:19,059 Hi, Mrs. Barber. 456 00:32:34,246 --> 00:32:37,166 All right. I'm shooting him. I'm shooting him. Go in. Go in. Go in. 457 00:32:37,249 --> 00:32:38,749 You're dead. 458 00:32:39,835 --> 00:32:41,165 Shoot him. 459 00:32:42,379 --> 00:32:44,009 How are you so bad at this game? 460 00:32:44,882 --> 00:32:46,052 You're so dead. 461 00:32:49,052 --> 00:32:50,142 Hey, bud. 462 00:32:53,682 --> 00:32:56,522 How 'bout taking a break? You've been playing for a couple hours. 463 00:33:05,777 --> 00:33:06,947 Jake. 464 00:33:12,451 --> 00:33:15,081 Okay, I have to go. All right. 465 00:33:20,834 --> 00:33:22,794 - When's dinner? - Soon as Mom gets home. 466 00:33:22,878 --> 00:33:24,418 Who you playing with? 467 00:33:24,505 --> 00:33:26,255 I don't know. Just some guy. 468 00:33:26,340 --> 00:33:27,470 You don't know his name? 469 00:33:28,217 --> 00:33:32,757 I think he said it was, like, Tim or Tom. 470 00:33:32,846 --> 00:33:34,006 You tell him your name? 471 00:33:35,098 --> 00:33:37,058 I don't know. Yeah, probably. 472 00:33:39,895 --> 00:33:42,475 You gotta be careful what you say on there, buddy. 473 00:33:42,564 --> 00:33:44,194 It's just trash talk. 474 00:33:44,274 --> 00:33:47,324 I know, but people take things out of context, they record stuff. 475 00:33:47,402 --> 00:33:49,042 This is why you can't be on social media. 476 00:33:49,071 --> 00:33:52,071 All this stuff gets stored somewhere. It's a prosecutor's fantasy. 477 00:33:52,157 --> 00:33:53,697 - We've talked about this. - I know. 478 00:33:53,784 --> 00:33:55,664 - So you're staying off it? - Yes. 479 00:34:03,418 --> 00:34:04,498 Okay. 480 00:34:05,921 --> 00:34:08,671 Look, I'm sorry. I know this is tough, but it's really important. 481 00:34:08,757 --> 00:34:11,197 I don't mind if you play the games. You just gotta be careful. 482 00:34:11,635 --> 00:34:13,585 With your phone, with your texts. Everything. 483 00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:15,599 Yeah. No, I get it. 484 00:34:18,225 --> 00:34:19,225 Okay. 485 00:34:19,309 --> 00:34:21,939 You know, Dylan says I'm famous. 486 00:34:24,022 --> 00:34:25,112 Talking to Dylan? 487 00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:26,690 Yeah, we were playing before. 488 00:34:26,775 --> 00:34:32,695 He was saying there's, like, a fan page online. 489 00:34:32,781 --> 00:34:35,911 Started by some girl in Ohio or Iowa or something like that. 490 00:34:35,993 --> 00:34:37,203 Jesus Christ. 491 00:34:37,286 --> 00:34:38,746 Kinda wanna see it though. 492 00:34:38,829 --> 00:34:40,209 Don't. 493 00:34:40,289 --> 00:34:45,129 Okay? It's a bad idea. Just... don't. 494 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,300 Shouldn't Mom be home by now? 495 00:34:53,385 --> 00:34:55,595 I'm gonna call her. Why don't you set the table? 496 00:35:26,919 --> 00:35:28,839 Starting to wonder where you were. 497 00:35:28,921 --> 00:35:30,301 I was driving. 498 00:35:30,881 --> 00:35:31,881 What do you mean? 499 00:35:32,716 --> 00:35:34,126 I just needed to... 500 00:35:35,552 --> 00:35:36,642 I don't know. 501 00:35:38,847 --> 00:35:40,057 How'd it go at work? 502 00:35:40,516 --> 00:35:42,016 That was... 503 00:35:43,685 --> 00:35:44,935 Oh, my God. 504 00:35:52,152 --> 00:35:54,112 Go inside. I'll handle this. 505 00:36:18,136 --> 00:36:19,296 Hey, Mom. 506 00:36:20,305 --> 00:36:21,465 I'll be right there. 507 00:37:33,879 --> 00:37:36,089 All right. I get it. You love me. 508 00:38:50,873 --> 00:38:53,003 Happy birthday! 509 00:39:04,469 --> 00:39:06,009 Jacob! 510 00:39:55,687 --> 00:39:58,147 Whose idea was it to consult Dr. Vogel? 511 00:39:59,650 --> 00:40:01,690 Jacob's lawyer recommended her. 512 00:40:01,777 --> 00:40:06,817 Dr. Vogel is considered an authority in genetic inheritance in behavior, 513 00:40:06,907 --> 00:40:08,867 - is she not? - She is. 514 00:40:08,951 --> 00:40:13,371 I thought Ms. Klein was of the opinion that hereditary evidence had no value. 515 00:40:13,455 --> 00:40:16,535 Well, she thought we might need to confront it if it came up in trial. 516 00:40:16,625 --> 00:40:18,455 It's called being a good lawyer. 517 00:40:20,963 --> 00:40:25,303 And her initial session with Jacob was on May 25th? 518 00:40:25,384 --> 00:40:26,514 Is that right? 519 00:40:27,386 --> 00:40:28,636 Yeah, that sounds right. 520 00:40:33,475 --> 00:40:35,225 We met with her first. 521 00:40:55,414 --> 00:40:58,044 Toby wants to drop off dinner for us tonight. 522 00:40:58,125 --> 00:40:59,415 Really? 523 00:40:59,501 --> 00:41:01,341 It's what you do when someone dies. 524 00:41:02,462 --> 00:41:04,212 She wants to be there for you. 525 00:41:04,298 --> 00:41:06,442 If you don't let people in, they're gonna think you don't want 'em. 526 00:41:06,466 --> 00:41:07,886 I know. 527 00:41:09,636 --> 00:41:12,256 Duffy came through, by the way. With the Patz file. 528 00:41:12,931 --> 00:41:14,601 Does she think that Patz did this? 529 00:41:14,683 --> 00:41:17,143 Well, she can't say that, but we can. 530 00:41:17,227 --> 00:41:18,397 Patz checks all the boxes. 531 00:41:18,478 --> 00:41:20,438 We just gotta make a credible case to the jury. 532 00:41:21,607 --> 00:41:24,187 - That was nice of her. - Yeah. 533 00:41:24,276 --> 00:41:27,486 See, people are looking out for us. 534 00:41:30,282 --> 00:41:32,122 Andy was still in law school. 535 00:41:32,201 --> 00:41:34,411 We hadn't even been together a year. 536 00:41:34,494 --> 00:41:36,374 So was the pregnancy unplanned? 537 00:41:36,455 --> 00:41:38,575 Yeah, but we were happy about it. 538 00:41:38,665 --> 00:41:40,495 We were practically engaged at that point. 539 00:41:40,584 --> 00:41:42,344 We were excited. 540 00:41:42,419 --> 00:41:44,959 But we were just kids ourselves. We had a lot to learn. 541 00:41:47,299 --> 00:41:50,389 So, how would you describe Jacob as an infant? 542 00:41:50,469 --> 00:41:51,639 - Beautiful. - Difficult. 543 00:41:53,138 --> 00:41:55,558 Of course he was beautiful, that's not what she... 544 00:41:56,225 --> 00:41:57,975 That's not what you were asking, was it? 545 00:41:58,060 --> 00:42:00,060 Well, when you say difficult, in what way? 546 00:42:00,938 --> 00:42:02,648 Well, he cried constantly. 547 00:42:02,731 --> 00:42:04,271 You'd think he was being tortured. 548 00:42:04,775 --> 00:42:08,395 At first we chalked it up to colic, but it never really went away. 549 00:42:08,487 --> 00:42:10,067 As a baby, I mean. 550 00:42:10,155 --> 00:42:11,735 Was he quick to console? 551 00:42:11,823 --> 00:42:13,453 - For the most part, yeah. - Not really. 552 00:42:16,578 --> 00:42:18,908 There were a few temper tantrums. Things like that. Yeah. 553 00:42:18,997 --> 00:42:20,597 Well, they were more than just tantrums. 554 00:42:23,710 --> 00:42:25,170 Well, he'd throw things at us. 555 00:42:25,254 --> 00:42:29,094 Scream for hours maybe. You couldn't get him to stop. 556 00:42:29,174 --> 00:42:31,054 That doesn't sound too unusual. 557 00:42:31,134 --> 00:42:34,054 It wasn't. I think Laurie's being a little dramatic. 558 00:42:37,933 --> 00:42:41,353 How was Jacob with other children as a toddler? 559 00:42:44,940 --> 00:42:46,020 Laurie? 560 00:42:49,111 --> 00:42:52,006 Okay. Let me just pause here for a second and make something really clear. 561 00:42:52,030 --> 00:42:53,780 I was hired by your defense team. 562 00:42:54,366 --> 00:42:55,616 I work for you. 563 00:42:55,701 --> 00:42:57,871 - I'm on Jacob's side. - We know that. 564 00:42:57,953 --> 00:43:00,753 Okay. So you know these conversations are entirely confidential, 565 00:43:00,831 --> 00:43:03,001 so there's absolutely no reason to hold back. 566 00:43:03,083 --> 00:43:04,083 Not in this room. 567 00:43:04,168 --> 00:43:07,048 I'm just trying to get the most complete picture possible. 568 00:43:14,136 --> 00:43:16,006 Well, he didn't do well in day care. 569 00:43:17,014 --> 00:43:20,144 He got too rough with the other kids. There were complaints. 570 00:43:20,225 --> 00:43:22,725 - Complaints? - It was a few neurotic parents. 571 00:43:22,811 --> 00:43:24,811 He once pushed a girl off a play structure. 572 00:43:24,897 --> 00:43:26,517 She needed stitches. 573 00:43:26,607 --> 00:43:29,317 And one boy accused him of biting, only Jacob denied it. 574 00:43:29,401 --> 00:43:31,504 He was a four-year-old boy. What are we talking about here? 575 00:43:31,528 --> 00:43:34,278 Okay, Andy. Let her speak. You'll have your turn. Go on, Laurie. 576 00:43:34,364 --> 00:43:36,124 I'm just trying to talk honestly, Andy. 577 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,760 No. You're making it seem like Jacob has something to answer for. 578 00:43:38,785 --> 00:43:39,905 And he doesn't. 579 00:43:39,995 --> 00:43:42,098 He was a little boy. You're reading into every little thing. 580 00:43:42,122 --> 00:43:43,372 That's what you always said. 581 00:43:43,457 --> 00:43:45,787 You never wanted to admit anything could ever be wrong. 582 00:43:45,876 --> 00:43:48,836 He was an ordinary boy with ordinary problems. 583 00:43:49,630 --> 00:43:51,090 Like any other boy. 584 00:43:52,049 --> 00:43:53,839 Our pediatrician said the same thing. 585 00:43:55,469 --> 00:43:58,929 She thought that Jacob was young, emotionally, 586 00:43:59,014 --> 00:44:01,814 and that he should repeat a year of kindergarten to catch up. 587 00:44:01,892 --> 00:44:04,392 - And it would pass. - And it did pass. 588 00:44:04,478 --> 00:44:06,148 - The pediatrician was right. - Was she? 589 00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:07,690 Honey, look where we are. 590 00:44:12,861 --> 00:44:14,451 What do you mean by that, Laurie? 591 00:44:16,031 --> 00:44:18,031 Do you have any doubts about Jacob's innocence? 592 00:44:18,116 --> 00:44:20,736 - No. Of course not. - And if you do, that's okay. 593 00:44:20,827 --> 00:44:22,747 I don't. Not in the slightest. 594 00:44:22,829 --> 00:44:24,999 I was just trying to answer your questions honestly. 595 00:44:25,082 --> 00:44:26,582 It's what you told us to do. 596 00:44:26,667 --> 00:44:28,127 - Understood. - I mean it. 597 00:44:28,210 --> 00:44:30,380 I know what he is capable of and what he isn't. 598 00:44:30,462 --> 00:44:32,422 - Okay. - A mother knows her child. 599 00:44:58,532 --> 00:45:00,082 Toby's here. 600 00:45:10,586 --> 00:45:12,046 - Hey, honey. - Hi. 601 00:45:14,006 --> 00:45:15,756 This is really sweet of you. Thank you. 602 00:45:15,841 --> 00:45:16,841 Please. 603 00:45:20,596 --> 00:45:21,596 How are you? 604 00:45:22,097 --> 00:45:26,057 Hanging in. It's just all so... 605 00:45:26,143 --> 00:45:27,353 I'm sure. 606 00:45:28,604 --> 00:45:30,364 Sweetheart. 607 00:45:31,773 --> 00:45:32,863 It's gonna be okay. 608 00:45:33,817 --> 00:45:35,487 I don't know. 609 00:45:36,111 --> 00:45:37,361 I really don't. 610 00:45:40,324 --> 00:45:42,624 Hey, bud. What was today? 611 00:45:43,035 --> 00:45:45,445 Global, Bio, and Spanish. 612 00:45:46,163 --> 00:45:47,843 I think I liked her better in second grade. 613 00:45:47,873 --> 00:45:52,673 I mean, she's nice and all, but she takes forever explaining things. 614 00:45:52,753 --> 00:45:54,433 Plus, I don't think she even knows Spanish. 615 00:45:55,088 --> 00:45:57,588 She pronounces años "anus." 616 00:46:00,093 --> 00:46:01,803 Hey, honey. Sounds like Jacob's... 617 00:46:03,597 --> 00:46:05,807 - What's going on? - Mom? 618 00:46:08,310 --> 00:46:11,560 What happened is that Gary doesn't want her seeing me anymore. 619 00:46:12,564 --> 00:46:14,734 She wanted to tell me face-to-face. 620 00:46:15,234 --> 00:46:16,784 That's insane. You're her best friend. 621 00:46:16,860 --> 00:46:19,070 Yeah, well, Gary's her husband, 622 00:46:19,154 --> 00:46:21,704 and he went to Cornell with Dan Rifkin, so... 623 00:46:24,868 --> 00:46:26,538 There are leftovers from last night. 624 00:47:13,458 --> 00:47:14,918 You could tool around in this. 625 00:47:15,002 --> 00:47:16,802 But I got... No, I'd recommend this one. 626 00:47:17,462 --> 00:47:19,422 Of course. You gotta earn your money. 627 00:47:33,353 --> 00:47:34,523 Hey, Sarah. 628 00:47:36,023 --> 00:47:37,233 How's practice going? 629 00:47:53,790 --> 00:47:55,540 This is Detective Duffy. 630 00:47:56,585 --> 00:47:57,585 Hello? 631 00:47:58,670 --> 00:47:59,760 Hello? 632 00:48:00,172 --> 00:48:02,552 You said to call if we knew anything about Ben's murder. 633 00:48:04,301 --> 00:48:06,181 Yes. Right. Who am I speaking with? 634 00:48:09,389 --> 00:48:13,229 My name is Sarah. Sarah Grohl. 635 00:48:17,689 --> 00:48:19,019 "Where's the hat?" 636 00:48:20,192 --> 00:48:22,152 Hey, buddy. Dinner. 637 00:48:28,742 --> 00:48:31,042 Honey! Dinner! 638 00:48:37,584 --> 00:48:38,714 Honey! 639 00:48:40,462 --> 00:48:42,672 "Fifty dollars." 640 00:48:44,132 --> 00:48:46,592 Laurie! Dinner! 641 00:48:53,725 --> 00:48:54,885 Laurie! 642 00:49:02,860 --> 00:49:04,070 Laurie?