1 00:00:09,833 --> 00:00:14,033 - All right, William, you sit over there in that seat. 2 00:00:14,100 --> 00:00:16,700 - Hey, Bill. 3 00:00:16,767 --> 00:00:17,933 - How you doing? 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,767 - Oh, hanging out. 5 00:00:19,833 --> 00:00:23,133 God, getting ready for the Arkansas football season. 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,967 - In 2015, as part of a "Nathan for You" DVD release, 7 00:00:27,033 --> 00:00:28,633 Comedy Central asked me 8 00:00:28,700 --> 00:00:30,433 to record an audio commentary track 9 00:00:30,500 --> 00:00:32,500 for some of my favorite episodes. 10 00:00:32,567 --> 00:00:35,367 In one segment, I helped a struggling souvenir shop 11 00:00:35,433 --> 00:00:37,367 and in the process 12 00:00:37,433 --> 00:00:40,033 met a professional Bill Gates impersonator named Bill Heath. 13 00:00:40,100 --> 00:00:43,533 - When we started our computers... 14 00:00:45,033 --> 00:00:47,033 back in the '80s, 15 00:00:47,100 --> 00:00:49,067 it was huge-- 16 00:00:49,133 --> 00:00:52,400 in the business, they were huge machines. 17 00:00:52,467 --> 00:00:54,500 - I found him to be a really interesting person, 18 00:00:54,567 --> 00:00:57,133 so when it came time to record the commentary 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,433 for his episode, I invited him to join us 20 00:00:59,500 --> 00:01:02,433 and share his favorite memories from making the show. 21 00:01:02,500 --> 00:01:05,500 - Yeah, the owner of the shop, 22 00:01:05,567 --> 00:01:08,067 I came in-- I was explaining to him 23 00:01:08,100 --> 00:01:11,133 about how the computers were founded 24 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,100 when we founded them and so forth. 25 00:01:13,167 --> 00:01:15,067 - But during the recording 26 00:01:15,100 --> 00:01:17,133 Bill's attention seemed scattered. 27 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,633 He not only took a seven-minute call from his phone company... 28 00:01:20,700 --> 00:01:22,833 Right, people were posting about the event on Twitter. 29 00:01:22,900 --> 00:01:25,433 - Yes, I want to lower the rate. 30 00:01:25,500 --> 00:01:27,100 How long will it be? 31 00:01:27,167 --> 00:01:29,067 - William, who is-- who is on the phone? 32 00:01:29,100 --> 00:01:30,833 - AT&T. Yeah, what's your number? 33 00:01:30,900 --> 00:01:32,967 I'm gonna call you back on this promotion. 34 00:01:33,067 --> 00:01:34,500 - but he also went into detail 35 00:01:34,567 --> 00:01:36,767 about a long-lost love from his past, 36 00:01:36,833 --> 00:01:38,967 a woman named Frances Gaddy. 37 00:01:39,067 --> 00:01:41,300 - I should have married her, everybody interfered. 38 00:01:41,367 --> 00:01:42,900 - Who interfered? 39 00:01:42,967 --> 00:01:45,367 - Oh, my mother, you know, a lot of friends. 40 00:01:45,433 --> 00:01:48,133 They--they--you know, mothers, a lot of mothers 41 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,200 have picked out the girl they want you to marry. 42 00:01:50,267 --> 00:01:53,667 Well, it doesn't work that way. 43 00:01:53,733 --> 00:01:56,300 - Is that a regret of yours? 44 00:01:56,367 --> 00:01:58,633 - It's one of 'em, yeah, I look back. 45 00:01:58,700 --> 00:02:01,833 I should have married her. 46 00:02:01,900 --> 00:02:03,567 [sighs] 47 00:02:03,633 --> 00:02:05,267 I don't know where she is now. 48 00:02:05,333 --> 00:02:07,233 I've been trying to find her. 49 00:02:07,300 --> 00:02:08,967 - I didn't think much of it at the time, 50 00:02:09,067 --> 00:02:10,767 but as the months went on, 51 00:02:10,833 --> 00:02:12,900 Bill began to show up at the office unannounced 52 00:02:12,967 --> 00:02:14,100 to deliver gifts... 53 00:02:14,167 --> 00:02:15,267 - Oh, it's a serving set. 54 00:02:15,333 --> 00:02:16,367 - Yeah. 55 00:02:16,433 --> 00:02:17,600 - grab a quick snack, 56 00:02:17,667 --> 00:02:19,633 or just to hang out, 57 00:02:19,700 --> 00:02:21,800 and the name Frances Gaddy kept coming up. 58 00:02:28,100 --> 00:02:31,167 Thoughts of this failed romance from over 50 years ago 59 00:02:31,233 --> 00:02:32,967 seemed to completely consume him. 60 00:02:35,900 --> 00:02:37,567 Frances? I don't know. 61 00:02:37,633 --> 00:02:38,967 Can I use the bathroom quickly, 62 00:02:39,067 --> 00:02:40,067 and then we'll talk when I come out? 63 00:02:40,100 --> 00:02:41,967 - Sure. - Okay. 64 00:02:42,067 --> 00:02:44,200 And in getting to know him, I began to understand why. 65 00:02:44,267 --> 00:02:45,733 At the age of 78, 66 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,200 Bill lived alone and had never married. 67 00:02:48,267 --> 00:02:51,600 His closest bond was with his alma mater's football team, 68 00:02:51,667 --> 00:02:53,267 the Arkansas Razorbacks. 69 00:02:53,333 --> 00:02:56,067 - Each year I give $3,000 total 70 00:02:56,133 --> 00:03:00,467 for the Arkansas Razorbacks athletic programs. 71 00:03:00,533 --> 00:03:03,367 Whoo, pigs! Sooey! 72 00:03:03,433 --> 00:03:06,067 Razorbacks! Number one. 73 00:03:06,067 --> 00:03:08,933 - His lifestyle was modest and very organized. 74 00:03:09,067 --> 00:03:12,133 - This is a stack of loan offers. 75 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,133 RISE preapproved for $2,600. 76 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,233 Here's the same RISE for $5,000. 77 00:03:19,300 --> 00:03:24,067 $1,000 prequalified, in your account $2,500. 78 00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:27,067 - With such meticulous record keeping in his daily life, 79 00:03:27,100 --> 00:03:30,300 it was surprising that he had no information about Frances 80 00:03:30,367 --> 00:03:31,767 other than her name. 81 00:03:31,833 --> 00:03:33,233 Have you looked for her? I mean-- 82 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:36,833 - I tried once or twice, yeah. 83 00:03:36,900 --> 00:03:39,500 - An exhaustive Internet search turned up nothing. 84 00:03:39,567 --> 00:03:41,567 If she had married someone, 85 00:03:41,633 --> 00:03:43,667 it was likely she'd have a different last name. 86 00:03:43,733 --> 00:03:47,167 And that meant with over 600,000 women named Frances 87 00:03:47,233 --> 00:03:49,467 currently living in the U.S., 88 00:03:49,533 --> 00:03:52,133 the task of finding the one Bill was looking for 89 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,900 would take an incredible amount of time and effort. 90 00:03:54,967 --> 00:03:57,800 But the challenge of solving a near-impossible mystery 91 00:03:57,867 --> 00:03:59,500 intrigued me. 92 00:03:59,567 --> 00:04:01,867 Plus, there was something about an old man 93 00:04:01,933 --> 00:04:04,533 so filled with regret that was hard for me to ignore, 94 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,967 and I realized if I didn't help him do this, 95 00:04:08,067 --> 00:04:11,733 no one would. 96 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,733 [somber music] 97 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:21,833 * * 98 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,067 It was becoming clear that finding this woman 99 00:04:29,133 --> 00:04:31,733 would take a lot more effort than a Google search. 100 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,700 But before devoting my time to this, 101 00:04:33,767 --> 00:04:36,567 I wanted to see what Bill's motivations were. 102 00:04:36,633 --> 00:04:40,233 - Oh, I need to confess a lot of things to her 103 00:04:40,300 --> 00:04:43,367 about what-- between the time we-- 104 00:04:43,433 --> 00:04:46,867 the lapse of time and fill in the gaps, 105 00:04:46,933 --> 00:04:49,633 her gaps and my gaps, 106 00:04:49,700 --> 00:04:51,733 to put the puzzle together. 107 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,533 - I mean, a best-case scenario, what do you hope will happen? 108 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,400 - Well, I hope I can find her. 109 00:04:57,467 --> 00:04:59,167 - And then what? What happens when you find her? 110 00:04:59,233 --> 00:05:01,133 - Well, I'll go from there. 111 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,567 - Well, what does that mean? 112 00:05:03,633 --> 00:05:06,133 - Well, if she's married, 113 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,700 you have to accept it that way. 114 00:05:08,767 --> 00:05:10,600 - But if she's not? 115 00:05:10,667 --> 00:05:13,367 - If she's not, well, maybe we could get married... 116 00:05:13,433 --> 00:05:15,067 [laughs] 117 00:05:15,133 --> 00:05:17,900 finally. 118 00:05:17,967 --> 00:05:19,900 - You still love her? 119 00:05:19,967 --> 00:05:21,800 - Yeah, I do. 120 00:05:21,867 --> 00:05:24,933 - I was moved by how romantic of a tale this was. 121 00:05:25,067 --> 00:05:27,833 - Love it hard to come by, you know. 122 00:05:27,900 --> 00:05:29,633 - The possibility of reuniting Bill 123 00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:32,467 with his long-lost love was so cool. 124 00:05:32,533 --> 00:05:34,800 So I told him I had some good news. 125 00:05:34,867 --> 00:05:37,833 I want to use the resources of my show 126 00:05:37,900 --> 00:05:40,067 to help you find Frances. 127 00:05:40,133 --> 00:05:43,167 - Well, that's-- 128 00:05:45,100 --> 00:05:48,267 I think that's a true friend that would do that. 129 00:05:48,333 --> 00:05:51,067 - But Bill hadn't seen or spoken to Frances 130 00:05:51,100 --> 00:05:52,833 in over 50 years, 131 00:05:52,900 --> 00:05:54,900 leaving us with very little to go on. 132 00:05:54,967 --> 00:05:56,467 - You know, she married on the rebound, 133 00:05:56,533 --> 00:05:59,833 unhappy marriage, she got a divorce, 134 00:05:59,900 --> 00:06:02,900 and I think she got another divorce, I don't know. 135 00:06:02,967 --> 00:06:04,800 - So wait, who did she marry? 136 00:06:04,867 --> 00:06:07,767 - Charles something. I don't remember his last name. 137 00:06:07,833 --> 00:06:08,867 - She married a Charles. 138 00:06:08,933 --> 00:06:10,200 - Yes. 139 00:06:10,267 --> 00:06:11,633 - But she could be married again? 140 00:06:11,700 --> 00:06:13,167 - She could be. - You just don't know. 141 00:06:13,233 --> 00:06:14,700 - I don't know. 142 00:06:14,767 --> 00:06:16,300 - The only thing he did know for sure 143 00:06:16,367 --> 00:06:18,200 was her name before she was married 144 00:06:18,267 --> 00:06:20,967 and what she looked like in 1961. 145 00:06:21,067 --> 00:06:23,633 - Brown hair, brown eyes. 146 00:06:23,700 --> 00:06:26,333 - With no photos and just a sketch of Frances 147 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:27,833 that Bill did from memory... 148 00:06:27,900 --> 00:06:31,333 So this is the woman we're looking for? 149 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,867 * * 150 00:06:33,933 --> 00:06:35,767 - Yes. 151 00:06:35,833 --> 00:06:37,367 - it quickly became clear 152 00:06:37,433 --> 00:06:39,333 this was going to be an uphill battle. 153 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,833 But Bill did recall one thing that could be helpful. 154 00:06:42,900 --> 00:06:46,167 - Last time I saw her was in Little Rock in Arkansas. 155 00:06:46,233 --> 00:06:49,067 I was working at Moses Melody Shop, 156 00:06:49,100 --> 00:06:50,900 the music record store. 157 00:06:50,967 --> 00:06:53,767 - I felt that if I could get Bill back to the city 158 00:06:53,833 --> 00:06:56,633 where they first dated, it might jog some of his memories. 159 00:06:56,700 --> 00:06:59,833 So I booked us a flight to Little Rock, Arkansas, 160 00:06:59,900 --> 00:07:02,600 to begin our search for Frances. 161 00:07:02,667 --> 00:07:07,267 [mid-tempo music] 162 00:07:07,333 --> 00:07:09,067 It had been some time since Bill had been back 163 00:07:09,133 --> 00:07:10,900 in his home state, 164 00:07:10,967 --> 00:07:12,833 and he seemed enthusiastic to return. 165 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:14,767 Are you excited, Bill? - Yeah. 166 00:07:14,833 --> 00:07:18,633 It's hometown, man. I grew up here. 167 00:07:18,700 --> 00:07:20,633 - And as I had hoped, it wasn't long 168 00:07:20,700 --> 00:07:23,400 before old memories began to come back. 169 00:07:23,467 --> 00:07:25,900 - God, mother used to pick me up right there, 170 00:07:25,967 --> 00:07:28,067 that station. 171 00:07:28,133 --> 00:07:29,700 There was a plant right there. 172 00:07:29,767 --> 00:07:32,933 Dr. Pepper Company right there, man. 173 00:07:33,067 --> 00:07:35,533 Now, that's the old West Side Junior High. 174 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,267 My uncle taught there. 175 00:07:37,333 --> 00:07:39,267 - With Bill's past fresh in his mind, 176 00:07:39,333 --> 00:07:42,067 we headed downtown to Moses Melody Shop, 177 00:07:42,100 --> 00:07:44,367 the last place Bill had seen Frances 178 00:07:44,433 --> 00:07:45,833 over 50 years ago. 179 00:07:45,900 --> 00:07:48,267 - It used to be right there, the second building. 180 00:07:48,333 --> 00:07:50,233 I don't think it's there anymore. 181 00:07:50,300 --> 00:07:51,400 Everything has changed. 182 00:07:51,467 --> 00:07:53,233 - Things had changed. 183 00:07:53,300 --> 00:07:55,733 Moses Melodies was now a wig store, 184 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,400 but once inside, 185 00:07:57,467 --> 00:07:59,633 memories of that final encounter with Frances 186 00:07:59,700 --> 00:08:01,367 began to resurface. 187 00:08:01,433 --> 00:08:03,767 - Well, there was a counter, like, here. 188 00:08:03,833 --> 00:08:07,600 I was right here, and she came in that way. 189 00:08:07,667 --> 00:08:10,933 I was behind the counter here. 190 00:08:11,067 --> 00:08:12,433 - Okay. 191 00:08:12,500 --> 00:08:14,633 - She brought her tape recorder. 192 00:08:14,700 --> 00:08:16,700 That's the last time I saw her. 193 00:08:16,767 --> 00:08:19,467 - As he continued, I began to understand 194 00:08:19,533 --> 00:08:21,067 what a loss this was for him. 195 00:08:21,067 --> 00:08:23,933 - She cried, said, "I'll love you to my grave." 196 00:08:24,067 --> 00:08:25,367 I never will forget that. 197 00:08:25,433 --> 00:08:26,967 - That's what she said to you? 198 00:08:27,067 --> 00:08:29,933 - Mm-hmm, that's what she told me. 199 00:08:30,067 --> 00:08:31,833 - So why'd you never see her again? 200 00:08:31,900 --> 00:08:34,967 - She said, "You want your career." I headed to Hollywood. 201 00:08:35,067 --> 00:08:38,200 She said, "You want your career." 202 00:08:40,700 --> 00:08:42,833 Those are the breaks. [chuckles] 203 00:08:42,900 --> 00:08:44,900 - I was starting to realize 204 00:08:44,967 --> 00:08:47,567 why I was so drawn to Bill's story. 205 00:08:47,633 --> 00:08:50,267 As someone who also left a lot behind 206 00:08:50,333 --> 00:08:52,600 to pursue a career in Hollywood, 207 00:08:52,667 --> 00:08:55,200 I couldn't help but feel an odd kinship with him. 208 00:08:55,267 --> 00:08:57,067 But the fact remained that 209 00:08:57,067 --> 00:08:59,433 we still had nothing concrete to go off of 210 00:08:59,500 --> 00:09:02,767 besides a first name and Bill's sketch. 211 00:09:05,067 --> 00:09:06,500 - Yeah. - White? 212 00:09:06,567 --> 00:09:08,333 - White. - She's white. 213 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,100 It was as if we were trying to find a missing person. 214 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:15,900 This is a woman. 215 00:09:15,967 --> 00:09:17,833 And it was hard to know what would lead us to her 216 00:09:17,900 --> 00:09:20,500 or where to even begin. 217 00:09:20,567 --> 00:09:22,233 On the way back to our hotel, 218 00:09:22,300 --> 00:09:24,367 Bill wanted to take me by his old high school. 219 00:09:24,433 --> 00:09:28,367 - Central High, the integration, nine black students. 220 00:09:28,433 --> 00:09:30,233 They had to get the federal troops in here 221 00:09:30,300 --> 00:09:33,967 to enter them. 222 00:09:34,067 --> 00:09:36,067 We always got along with the blacks, 223 00:09:36,067 --> 00:09:38,400 no problem. 224 00:09:38,467 --> 00:09:40,767 It's too bad that it had to come to this, 225 00:09:40,833 --> 00:09:42,700 but it happened. 226 00:09:42,767 --> 00:09:44,200 - It was neat to learn a bit of the history 227 00:09:44,267 --> 00:09:45,967 of Bill's high school, 228 00:09:46,067 --> 00:09:48,733 but then something came up that could be useful. 229 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,567 Did Frances go to your high school? 230 00:09:51,633 --> 00:09:55,433 - Um... 231 00:09:55,500 --> 00:09:59,067 No, she went to Dumas High School, I believe. 232 00:09:59,067 --> 00:10:02,500 Dumas, Arkansas. 233 00:10:02,567 --> 00:10:04,033 - Dumas. 234 00:10:04,100 --> 00:10:06,133 It turned out that Dumas was a town 235 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,267 just under two hours from Little Rock, 236 00:10:08,333 --> 00:10:10,333 and if I could get in touch with their high school, 237 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,433 they'd most likely have student records 238 00:10:12,500 --> 00:10:15,233 or even an old yearbook that could give us a clue. 239 00:10:15,300 --> 00:10:17,000 But the school was closed for the day 240 00:10:17,067 --> 00:10:18,667 so we'd have to call in the morning 241 00:10:18,733 --> 00:10:20,633 In the meantime, we checked into our hotel 242 00:10:20,700 --> 00:10:22,633 in downtown Little Rock, 243 00:10:22,700 --> 00:10:25,133 and after getting unpacked and grabbing some dinner, 244 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,667 we decided to call it a night. 245 00:10:28,733 --> 00:10:32,633 [cell phone chimes off] 246 00:10:32,700 --> 00:10:34,733 This is kind of a fun trip, huh? 247 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:35,967 - Yeah. 248 00:10:36,033 --> 00:10:37,633 - Just the boys. 249 00:10:37,700 --> 00:10:40,233 - Mm-hmm. 250 00:10:40,300 --> 00:10:42,333 - Can I ask you something? 251 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,167 - Yes. 252 00:10:44,233 --> 00:10:47,600 - What's your favorite memory of Frances? 253 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,333 - Probably when we were on the bed there together. 254 00:10:58,400 --> 00:10:59,733 - When you were on the bed together? 255 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,100 - Yeah. 256 00:11:01,167 --> 00:11:03,333 - What did you do on the bed? 257 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,067 - Well, I was trying to have sex with her. 258 00:11:09,833 --> 00:11:12,867 - Oh, cool. 259 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,433 All right, should we go to bed? 260 00:11:17,500 --> 00:11:19,700 - I guess so. 261 00:11:19,767 --> 00:11:21,333 - All right, good night, Bill. 262 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,233 - Good night. 263 00:11:23,300 --> 00:11:24,633 - You gonna get under the covers? 264 00:11:24,700 --> 00:11:28,467 - Oh, I'm okay right now. Thank you. 265 00:11:28,533 --> 00:11:30,100 - Okay. 266 00:11:30,167 --> 00:11:33,100 [dramatic music] 267 00:11:33,167 --> 00:11:40,200 * * 268 00:11:44,067 --> 00:11:45,100 - The next morning while Bill was getting ready, 269 00:11:45,167 --> 00:11:46,667 I decided to follow up 270 00:11:46,733 --> 00:11:48,067 on our Dumas High School lead 271 00:11:48,100 --> 00:11:49,733 when I hit a bit of a snag. 272 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,633 I'm not a parent. 273 00:11:51,700 --> 00:11:53,933 - Well, on our campus, to be-- 274 00:11:54,067 --> 00:11:55,633 to even be here as a visitor 275 00:11:55,700 --> 00:11:57,833 you're supposed to be a parent or a guardian. 276 00:11:57,900 --> 00:12:00,500 - The school told me they wouldn't release 277 00:12:00,567 --> 00:12:02,067 any of their student records 278 00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:03,800 and their strict visitor policy 279 00:12:03,867 --> 00:12:05,400 prevented us from even coming by 280 00:12:05,467 --> 00:12:07,400 and looking at an old yearbook. 281 00:12:07,467 --> 00:12:09,233 I guess a 78-year-old man 282 00:12:09,300 --> 00:12:11,067 trying to track down a former student 283 00:12:11,133 --> 00:12:14,333 that he's in love with does raise a few red flags. 284 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,867 But after doing a bit of research on the city of Dumas, 285 00:12:16,933 --> 00:12:19,067 something occurred to me that could possibly be 286 00:12:19,133 --> 00:12:20,833 our way in. 287 00:12:20,900 --> 00:12:22,700 Dumas' main claim to fame was that 288 00:12:22,767 --> 00:12:24,867 they were the shooting location for the 2012 289 00:12:24,933 --> 00:12:27,800 Matthew McConaughey movie "Mud." 290 00:12:27,867 --> 00:12:31,300 It was clearly a point of pride for everyone in Dumas. 291 00:12:31,367 --> 00:12:33,167 So if we could pretend that we were in town 292 00:12:33,233 --> 00:12:34,400 to shoot a sequel to "Mud," 293 00:12:34,467 --> 00:12:36,667 called "Mud 2: Never Clean," 294 00:12:36,733 --> 00:12:38,633 I was confident the city would grant us access 295 00:12:38,700 --> 00:12:41,067 to any location in Dumas, 296 00:12:41,133 --> 00:12:42,767 including their high school 297 00:12:42,833 --> 00:12:45,367 with its archive of yearbooks. 298 00:12:45,433 --> 00:12:47,833 But to pull this off, we'd need some credibility, 299 00:12:47,900 --> 00:12:51,100 so I contacted an actor named Richard Ledbetter 300 00:12:51,167 --> 00:12:52,967 who could be seen faintly in the background 301 00:12:53,067 --> 00:12:54,833 of a scene in the original "Mud" 302 00:12:54,900 --> 00:12:56,500 to come in and audition for what he believed 303 00:12:56,567 --> 00:12:59,367 was a starring role in "Mud 2." 304 00:12:59,433 --> 00:13:02,433 So firstly, we loved your work in "Mud" one. 305 00:13:02,500 --> 00:13:03,933 - Thank you. 306 00:13:04,067 --> 00:13:05,567 - I'm assuming you remember Bill Goldstein 307 00:13:05,633 --> 00:13:07,133 from the original shoot. 308 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,933 - I don't know that we met. I don't think-- 309 00:13:09,067 --> 00:13:11,367 Your face is--both of your faces are very familiar. 310 00:13:11,433 --> 00:13:13,367 - Oh, yeah. Well, we were around all the time, 311 00:13:13,433 --> 00:13:15,433 so I'm sure you-- you saw us here and there. 312 00:13:15,500 --> 00:13:17,400 - It's a fantastic movie. Great job. 313 00:13:17,467 --> 00:13:18,400 - Thank you. 314 00:13:18,467 --> 00:13:20,067 - Thank you. 315 00:13:20,100 --> 00:13:21,967 - For his audition, I'd written some lines 316 00:13:22,067 --> 00:13:24,067 for a scene from "Mud 2" that Bill would read with him. 317 00:13:24,133 --> 00:13:27,267 - [clears throat] 318 00:13:27,333 --> 00:13:28,633 What's going on here? 319 00:13:28,700 --> 00:13:30,633 This place is absolutely a mess. 320 00:13:30,700 --> 00:13:32,233 - I know. 321 00:13:32,300 --> 00:13:34,733 - We have to clean this high school library up. 322 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,833 It's covered in Mud again. 323 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:40,300 - And I thought things were dirty last time, 324 00:13:40,367 --> 00:13:42,467 but this time it's filthy. 325 00:13:42,533 --> 00:13:45,367 - It's absolutely ridiculous, 326 00:13:45,433 --> 00:13:48,467 all this mud. 327 00:13:49,633 --> 00:13:52,800 - Great. That was-- 328 00:13:52,867 --> 00:13:55,833 - He got into the lines very well. 329 00:13:55,900 --> 00:13:59,433 The way he read it lightly and then he went into 330 00:13:59,500 --> 00:14:03,533 a stronger phase of the wording. 331 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,300 - Okay. Let him know. 332 00:14:05,367 --> 00:14:07,433 You can tell him. 333 00:14:07,500 --> 00:14:08,700 - You've got the part. 334 00:14:08,767 --> 00:14:10,433 - Fantastic. Thank you. 335 00:14:10,500 --> 00:14:12,100 - With an actor from the original movie 336 00:14:12,167 --> 00:14:14,967 now part of our team, we contacted Dumas High 337 00:14:15,067 --> 00:14:16,867 to say we were in town scouting locations 338 00:14:16,933 --> 00:14:18,767 for the "Mud" sequel. 339 00:14:18,833 --> 00:14:21,633 And as I expected, they gladly opened their doors to us. 340 00:14:21,700 --> 00:14:23,233 He was in the scene with the motorcycle 341 00:14:23,300 --> 00:14:24,567 driving beside the train tracks. 342 00:14:24,633 --> 00:14:26,067 - Okay. - You could see him 343 00:14:26,067 --> 00:14:27,567 in the background with the shiny hair. 344 00:14:27,633 --> 00:14:29,133 With the school staff starstruck, 345 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,200 they gave us the VIP treatment, 346 00:14:31,267 --> 00:14:33,533 taking us on a tour of their entire campus 347 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,100 to show off what the high school had to offer. 348 00:14:39,367 --> 00:14:41,167 But what they didn't know was that our real purpose 349 00:14:41,233 --> 00:14:43,133 was to find their old yearbooks. 350 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,467 This is a great location. 351 00:14:44,533 --> 00:14:46,133 Where do you keep the yearbooks? 352 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,233 We told them "Mud 2" was a 1950s period film 353 00:14:49,300 --> 00:14:52,200 and that their yearbooks would be a helpful visual reference 354 00:14:52,267 --> 00:14:54,067 for re-creating the era. 355 00:14:54,067 --> 00:14:56,133 - Hey, there's '57. 356 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,067 - Frances was at Dumas High in the late '50s. 357 00:14:59,067 --> 00:15:02,267 So when we found a '57, I knew we had what we needed. 358 00:15:02,333 --> 00:15:05,267 Would it be possible for our props department 359 00:15:05,333 --> 00:15:06,300 to look at one of these? 360 00:15:06,367 --> 00:15:08,933 - I don't know why not. 361 00:15:09,067 --> 00:15:11,167 - And with that, Bill and I had pulled off 362 00:15:11,233 --> 00:15:13,167 a genuine heist. 363 00:15:13,233 --> 00:15:14,767 So once we got to a secure location, 364 00:15:14,833 --> 00:15:17,867 it was time to check out what we had. 365 00:15:24,267 --> 00:15:26,067 - There she is. 366 00:15:26,100 --> 00:15:28,433 [somber music] 367 00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:30,067 That's her. - That's her? 368 00:15:30,100 --> 00:15:32,100 - Yes, that is her. 369 00:15:32,167 --> 00:15:34,767 * * 370 00:15:34,833 --> 00:15:37,100 Golly. 371 00:15:37,167 --> 00:15:39,233 * * 372 00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:41,400 She-- [laughs] 373 00:15:41,467 --> 00:15:43,600 That's her. 374 00:15:43,667 --> 00:15:46,067 It's her. 375 00:15:46,100 --> 00:15:49,733 * * 376 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,933 That's her. 377 00:15:52,067 --> 00:15:57,833 * * 378 00:15:57,900 --> 00:15:59,500 That's her. 379 00:15:59,567 --> 00:16:02,933 * * 380 00:16:06,867 --> 00:16:08,533 - The yearbook would be an amazing resource. 381 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,400 Not only did it have the names of her classmates 382 00:16:10,467 --> 00:16:12,067 that we could try to track down, 383 00:16:12,067 --> 00:16:14,467 but we also now had a photo of her, 384 00:16:14,533 --> 00:16:16,300 and that meant there might be a way to figure out 385 00:16:16,367 --> 00:16:18,333 what Frances looked like today. 386 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,633 So I contacted a professional age-progression specialist 387 00:16:21,700 --> 00:16:24,633 who I had worked with in the past named, Cornelius Ladd, 388 00:16:24,700 --> 00:16:26,500 flew him out to Arkansas, 389 00:16:26,567 --> 00:16:28,467 and booked him a hotel room adjacent to ours 390 00:16:28,533 --> 00:16:31,067 where he set up everything he needed to get to work. 391 00:16:31,067 --> 00:16:34,300 - This is, um... 392 00:16:34,367 --> 00:16:35,333 two of the same printer. 393 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,067 - Right, right. 394 00:16:37,067 --> 00:16:39,200 You always want to have a backup when you travel. 395 00:16:39,267 --> 00:16:41,667 - Oh, okay. That's great. 396 00:16:41,733 --> 00:16:43,967 Good to have a... 397 00:16:44,067 --> 00:16:45,267 backup. - Right. 398 00:16:45,333 --> 00:16:47,067 Right. 399 00:16:47,133 --> 00:16:48,867 - But after giving him the photo, 400 00:16:48,933 --> 00:16:50,933 Cornelius pointed out that this job would require 401 00:16:51,067 --> 00:16:52,467 a more advanced technique. 402 00:16:52,533 --> 00:16:54,067 - The last one, 403 00:16:54,133 --> 00:16:57,167 we only age progressed those children ten years. 404 00:16:57,233 --> 00:16:58,400 - Right. - But now, you're talking about 405 00:16:58,467 --> 00:17:00,200 50 years, 406 00:17:00,267 --> 00:17:03,867 and the main thing about age progression is the gravity. 407 00:17:03,933 --> 00:17:06,533 What makes people age is gravity. 408 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:07,933 If there were no gravity-- for instance, 409 00:17:08,067 --> 00:17:09,467 if we all lived in outer space, 410 00:17:09,533 --> 00:17:11,067 as we will one day, 411 00:17:11,100 --> 00:17:13,400 your face would have-- would never change. 412 00:17:13,467 --> 00:17:15,800 You'd always look like how you look right now. 413 00:17:15,867 --> 00:17:17,567 - Okay. - There would be no gravity 414 00:17:17,633 --> 00:17:19,067 pulling on your face. 415 00:17:19,133 --> 00:17:21,200 With this picture I'm working with, 416 00:17:21,267 --> 00:17:24,533 or this face or this person, I'm working with gravity. 417 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,933 - Right, okay. 418 00:17:27,067 --> 00:17:29,367 - As a side note, though, you might find this interesting. 419 00:17:29,433 --> 00:17:32,067 Scientists are predicting that in the next 30 years 420 00:17:32,133 --> 00:17:33,933 we'll be able to walk into a doctor's office, 421 00:17:34,067 --> 00:17:36,733 get a treatment that's affordable to everybody, 422 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,067 and you'll be able to live to be 600 years on average. 423 00:17:41,067 --> 00:17:42,867 - I gave Cornelius a Jumpdrive 424 00:17:42,933 --> 00:17:45,667 with a scanned copy of Frances' yearbook photo on it 425 00:17:45,733 --> 00:17:48,800 and then left him to his work. 426 00:17:48,867 --> 00:17:51,667 [upbeat music] 427 00:17:51,733 --> 00:17:54,100 And a few hours later, he called me back in 428 00:17:54,167 --> 00:17:55,567 with his completed rendition 429 00:17:55,633 --> 00:17:57,933 of what Frances would look like today. 430 00:17:58,067 --> 00:18:00,300 So this is her... 431 00:18:00,367 --> 00:18:01,733 - I aged it-- 432 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,133 - 75? - 76, yeah. 433 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,767 75, 76 years old. 434 00:18:04,833 --> 00:18:06,667 And even at-- even at 76, 435 00:18:06,733 --> 00:18:09,167 she still looks--she's still an attractive person. 436 00:18:09,233 --> 00:18:11,533 - Right, yeah. 437 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,933 - I think. 438 00:18:14,067 --> 00:18:17,067 - How--how accurate would you say this is 439 00:18:17,067 --> 00:18:19,667 of what Frances looks like today? 440 00:18:19,733 --> 00:18:22,200 - I would say it's a 95% chance 441 00:18:22,267 --> 00:18:23,967 she looks just like that. 442 00:18:24,067 --> 00:18:25,167 - 95%? 443 00:18:25,233 --> 00:18:26,333 - Mm-hmm. 444 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,167 - Okay. 445 00:18:28,233 --> 00:18:29,767 I didn't know if I'd ever fully understand 446 00:18:29,833 --> 00:18:31,600 the science of age progression, 447 00:18:31,667 --> 00:18:33,333 but it was the best clue we had 448 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,867 as to what a 76-year-old Frances might look like. 449 00:18:35,933 --> 00:18:38,067 So I brought Bill the updated photo 450 00:18:38,133 --> 00:18:40,300 to see what he thought. 451 00:18:40,367 --> 00:18:42,333 - Oh, my gosh. 452 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,433 - That's what we got. 453 00:18:47,267 --> 00:18:49,400 I don't know if it's 100% accurate, 454 00:18:49,467 --> 00:18:52,333 but there's not that many age progressionists around 455 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,800 so, you know, we have to take what we can get, I guess. 456 00:18:55,867 --> 00:18:59,800 - Who did this? 457 00:18:59,867 --> 00:19:02,533 - Cornelius Ladd. 458 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,067 If there was a chance Frances still lived in the area, 459 00:19:05,100 --> 00:19:07,800 I felt it was worthwhile to do a poster campaign 460 00:19:07,867 --> 00:19:10,367 while we chased down other leads. 461 00:19:10,433 --> 00:19:12,067 So we put up hundreds of fliers 462 00:19:12,100 --> 00:19:13,800 throughout Little Rock and Dumas 463 00:19:13,867 --> 00:19:15,533 in the hope someone would recognize her 464 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,467 and give us a call. 465 00:19:17,533 --> 00:19:20,167 The next morning, Bill decided to relocate from the hotel 466 00:19:20,233 --> 00:19:21,867 to his niece Shelly's house 467 00:19:21,933 --> 00:19:23,833 who lived on the outskirts of Little Rock. 468 00:19:23,900 --> 00:19:25,867 She invited him to stay with her 469 00:19:25,933 --> 00:19:28,467 and I was curious to meet a family member of Bill's 470 00:19:28,533 --> 00:19:30,567 as I thought it might help me gain insight 471 00:19:30,633 --> 00:19:33,333 into his past, and more importantly, Frances. 472 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,133 - Hi. - Hello! 473 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,667 - Hey there. 474 00:19:38,733 --> 00:19:40,400 - How are you? 475 00:19:40,467 --> 00:19:41,533 - Fine. Good to see you. 476 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,367 - Good to see you. Oh. 477 00:19:43,433 --> 00:19:46,067 Y'all come on in. 478 00:19:46,067 --> 00:19:48,333 Drake's married and moved to northwest Arkansas. 479 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,467 Natalie and-- - Who? 480 00:19:49,533 --> 00:19:51,267 - Drake. - Oh, yeah. 481 00:19:51,333 --> 00:19:55,333 - And Dakota, as you know, and Dylan are still in school. 482 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,933 So we're-- we're good. 483 00:19:57,067 --> 00:19:58,800 Chris and I are finally empty nesters. 484 00:19:58,867 --> 00:20:00,733 - Finally got freedom, huh? 485 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,733 - Yeah, that's right. That's right. 486 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,733 So no, but we're doing good so. 487 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,500 - Well, that color in the dining room, 488 00:20:06,567 --> 00:20:09,000 you didn't have that when I was here, did you? 489 00:20:09,067 --> 00:20:11,000 - I did have that when you were here, yeah. 490 00:20:11,067 --> 00:20:12,133 - That's nice. 491 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,900 - Thank you. 492 00:20:13,967 --> 00:20:16,000 - After some catching up with Shelly, 493 00:20:16,067 --> 00:20:18,867 Bill headed upstairs to his grand-nephew Dakota's bedroom 494 00:20:18,933 --> 00:20:20,900 to unpack and get settled. 495 00:20:20,967 --> 00:20:23,033 Meanwhile, Shelly brought me into the kitchen 496 00:20:23,100 --> 00:20:25,267 to show me some old family albums. 497 00:20:25,333 --> 00:20:26,700 That's Bill? - That's Bill. 498 00:20:26,767 --> 00:20:27,867 Isn't he cute? - Look at that haircut. 499 00:20:27,933 --> 00:20:29,800 - [laughs] Look at that hat. 500 00:20:29,867 --> 00:20:33,133 So this is Easter 1939, 501 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,867 and that's Bill. 502 00:20:34,933 --> 00:20:36,200 - What a cutie. - I know. 503 00:20:36,267 --> 00:20:39,233 That's a picture of him in, I think-- 504 00:20:39,300 --> 00:20:40,500 - This is Bill? 505 00:20:40,567 --> 00:20:42,733 - Uh-huh, in his younger years. 506 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:43,833 - No. - Yeah. 507 00:20:43,900 --> 00:20:45,367 Look at that hair. 508 00:20:45,433 --> 00:20:46,500 - Oh, my God. 509 00:20:46,567 --> 00:20:48,533 - Mm-hmm. 510 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,133 - I was stunned to see that Bill was once incredibly handsome, 511 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,833 and for the first time, his Hollywood aspirations 512 00:20:53,900 --> 00:20:55,800 started to make sense. 513 00:20:55,867 --> 00:20:58,400 So I was hopeful Shelly would be able to shine more light 514 00:20:58,467 --> 00:21:01,067 on this man who left the love of his life 515 00:21:01,067 --> 00:21:02,733 for a shot at fame. 516 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,433 - Bill's dad died when he was five years old, 517 00:21:05,500 --> 00:21:08,300 and his dad, I think, 518 00:21:08,367 --> 00:21:10,133 was in his 50s when he died, 519 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,567 so he was fairly young. 520 00:21:11,633 --> 00:21:13,267 - Huh. 521 00:21:13,333 --> 00:21:15,467 - And he really struggled emotionally 522 00:21:15,533 --> 00:21:18,267 trying to deal with that. 523 00:21:18,333 --> 00:21:20,467 And I think there's just different points of his life 524 00:21:20,533 --> 00:21:23,433 that he just kind of felt, you know, 525 00:21:23,500 --> 00:21:27,133 that maybe he's been entitled to certain things 526 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,400 and life doesn't always work out that way. 527 00:21:30,467 --> 00:21:33,733 I think that's harder for him to move past. 528 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,200 - Bill's memories about Frances are very foggy... 529 00:21:37,267 --> 00:21:38,333 - Mm-hmm. - and vague... 530 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,933 - Mm-hmm. 531 00:21:40,067 --> 00:21:42,333 - and there's a lot of half information. 532 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,400 And so I was hoping maybe you might know stuff or-- 533 00:21:46,467 --> 00:21:48,733 Has he mentioned her to you? 534 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,333 - Briefly, but yeah, briefly, he has. 535 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,900 Evidently, I think he dated her 536 00:21:53,967 --> 00:21:55,633 and my grandmother didn't want him to marry her. 537 00:21:55,700 --> 00:21:57,067 Is that what he's told you? 538 00:21:57,067 --> 00:21:58,733 - He said something like that, yeah. 539 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,700 I get a sense he really regrets not marrying her. 540 00:22:01,767 --> 00:22:03,067 - Yes. - He says he should have 541 00:22:03,133 --> 00:22:04,200 married her. - Yes. 542 00:22:04,267 --> 00:22:06,067 And Bill keeps in touch with-- 543 00:22:06,133 --> 00:22:08,500 I mean, you know, he has his little, literally, black book 544 00:22:08,567 --> 00:22:11,167 and he keeps in touch with a lot of people: 545 00:22:11,233 --> 00:22:12,600 relatives, friends. 546 00:22:12,667 --> 00:22:16,067 He's very, very good about that. 547 00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:18,600 So the fact that he lost touch with her 548 00:22:18,667 --> 00:22:20,467 is kind of interesting to me. 549 00:22:20,533 --> 00:22:23,467 - It was curious that Shelly, who knew Bill so well, 550 00:22:23,533 --> 00:22:26,333 thought it was odd he hadn't kept in touch with Frances. 551 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,533 And as we kept talking, 552 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,067 the conversation got even more interesting. 553 00:22:31,067 --> 00:22:33,733 How long has Bill been doing 554 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,500 Bill Gates impersonations? 555 00:22:36,567 --> 00:22:40,333 - Um... 556 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,967 I guess since he's been on the show. 557 00:22:42,067 --> 00:22:43,467 - I mean--what? 558 00:22:43,533 --> 00:22:45,500 - I guess since he's done him for you guys. 559 00:22:45,567 --> 00:22:49,400 To our knowledge, he's never done any before. 560 00:22:49,467 --> 00:22:51,367 - Before "Nathan for You"? 561 00:22:51,433 --> 00:22:53,333 - I don't think he's done any impersonations. 562 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:54,733 Did he say he has? 563 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,733 - He told me he did it professionally 564 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,967 when I first met him. 565 00:22:58,067 --> 00:22:59,800 - Oh, I don't know. 566 00:22:59,867 --> 00:23:02,067 To my knowledge, he hasn't, be he-- 567 00:23:02,067 --> 00:23:03,733 here again, he could have done something 568 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,767 and I wouldn't know about it. 569 00:23:06,833 --> 00:23:09,533 - Huh. 570 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,067 Bill was even more of an enigma than I had expected. 571 00:23:13,133 --> 00:23:15,700 It was hard to tell what was true about him, 572 00:23:15,767 --> 00:23:18,800 and it crossed my mind that his relationship with Frances 573 00:23:18,867 --> 00:23:21,267 might not be all that he made it out to be. 574 00:23:21,333 --> 00:23:23,600 If I was gonna continue dedicating my time 575 00:23:23,667 --> 00:23:25,433 to helping this man, 576 00:23:25,500 --> 00:23:27,600 I needed to know that he was being honest with me. 577 00:23:27,667 --> 00:23:29,867 What's your favorite nut? 578 00:23:29,933 --> 00:23:31,867 - Peanuts. 579 00:23:31,933 --> 00:23:33,733 - I love peanuts. 580 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,067 - Yeah, I like it. 581 00:23:37,067 --> 00:23:39,067 - Can I ask you something? 582 00:23:39,067 --> 00:23:40,600 - Go ahead. 583 00:23:40,667 --> 00:23:43,900 - How long have you been a Bill Gates impersonator for? 584 00:23:43,967 --> 00:23:48,867 [upbeat music] 585 00:23:48,933 --> 00:23:51,867 - Oh, four years, I think, wasn't it? 586 00:23:51,933 --> 00:23:55,133 Why do you ask that? 587 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,667 - When I first met you... 588 00:23:57,733 --> 00:23:59,200 - Yeah. - you told me 589 00:23:59,267 --> 00:24:02,133 you impersonated Bill Gates for a living. 590 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,667 - Well... 591 00:24:04,733 --> 00:24:06,433 did I say for a living? 592 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:08,133 - You do this for a living, right? 593 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,067 - Yes, sir. - Okay. 594 00:24:10,067 --> 00:24:11,633 Yeah. 595 00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:14,600 - Well, that must have been a misunderstanding. 596 00:24:14,667 --> 00:24:16,600 - By you or by me? 597 00:24:16,667 --> 00:24:19,733 - Well, you know, between two people 598 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,067 it could be a misunderstanding. 599 00:24:22,067 --> 00:24:24,600 - So was it a misunderstanding or did you lie to me? 600 00:24:24,667 --> 00:24:27,333 - [laughs] I never lied to you. 601 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,767 - You said you were a professional Bill Gates. 602 00:24:28,833 --> 00:24:31,800 - I don't know where you got that. 603 00:24:31,867 --> 00:24:33,100 - It's in the show. 604 00:24:33,167 --> 00:24:35,733 * * 605 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,433 You told me on camera. 606 00:24:37,500 --> 00:24:42,067 * * 607 00:24:42,067 --> 00:24:45,533 Are you exaggerating anything about this relationship 608 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,067 with Frances that I should know about? 609 00:24:47,067 --> 00:24:50,133 - No. No exaggeration. 610 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,500 Everything I've told you is the truth. 611 00:24:52,567 --> 00:24:53,867 - You've told me everything? 612 00:24:53,933 --> 00:24:56,167 - Well, everything that I can remember, 613 00:24:56,233 --> 00:24:58,867 but if I think of anything else, I'll let you know. 614 00:24:58,933 --> 00:25:00,600 * * 615 00:25:00,667 --> 00:25:02,600 - You weren't like a stalker or anything, right? 616 00:25:02,667 --> 00:25:04,500 - No. [laughs] 617 00:25:04,567 --> 00:25:06,400 - Okay. 618 00:25:06,467 --> 00:25:09,367 - No. 619 00:25:09,433 --> 00:25:12,467 You think I was-- look like a stalker? 620 00:25:12,533 --> 00:25:14,933 [dramatic music] 621 00:25:15,067 --> 00:25:17,900 - It wasn't the most reassuring conversation. 622 00:25:17,967 --> 00:25:19,367 Bill had an odd way of communicating 623 00:25:19,433 --> 00:25:21,467 that was hard to decipher. 624 00:25:21,533 --> 00:25:24,467 - Here I go digging in again. 625 00:25:24,533 --> 00:25:28,067 * * 626 00:25:28,133 --> 00:25:30,067 - And as I left that day, 627 00:25:30,067 --> 00:25:31,900 I found it hard to know what to really believe 628 00:25:31,967 --> 00:25:34,533 about this relationship from so long ago. 629 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,567 * * 630 00:25:41,167 --> 00:25:44,467 - Her--her name is Frances? 631 00:25:44,533 --> 00:25:47,567 Do you know her name before she got married by any chance? 632 00:25:51,167 --> 00:25:53,467 Okay. 633 00:25:53,533 --> 00:25:55,600 The next day I got a call from someone 634 00:25:55,667 --> 00:25:57,467 who had seen one of our Frances posters 635 00:25:57,533 --> 00:25:59,533 and thought it might be his great-grandmother. 636 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,767 Do you know what year she was born? 637 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,567 She's old, right? 638 00:26:09,633 --> 00:26:12,067 He didn't know many details about her past, 639 00:26:12,133 --> 00:26:13,833 but before putting us in touch with her, 640 00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:16,933 he asked to meet us during his lunch break. 641 00:26:24,333 --> 00:26:27,067 Okay, thanks so much. All right. 642 00:26:27,133 --> 00:26:28,533 So I hurried over to Shelly's house 643 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,400 to update Bill on the news. 644 00:26:30,467 --> 00:26:33,467 So a guy named Jake called 645 00:26:33,533 --> 00:26:35,800 because he saw the Frances posters. 646 00:26:35,867 --> 00:26:38,700 His great-grandma's name is Frances. 647 00:26:38,767 --> 00:26:40,367 She has a different last name, 648 00:26:40,433 --> 00:26:43,167 but he doesn't know what her name was. 649 00:26:43,233 --> 00:26:45,200 - He thinks that's her? 650 00:26:45,267 --> 00:26:46,900 - He doesn't know. 651 00:26:46,967 --> 00:26:49,900 [dramatic music] 652 00:26:49,967 --> 00:26:53,667 * * 653 00:26:53,733 --> 00:26:56,767 [dog barking] 654 00:27:02,067 --> 00:27:03,333 Jake? - Yes, sir. 655 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,800 - Hey. - Hey, how are you? 656 00:27:04,867 --> 00:27:06,267 - Hi, how are you? 657 00:27:06,333 --> 00:27:07,867 Nathan. - Nice to meet you. 658 00:27:07,933 --> 00:27:09,600 - Bill. - Nice to meet you. 659 00:27:09,667 --> 00:27:11,600 - You don't remember her maiden name? 660 00:27:11,667 --> 00:27:15,433 - No. I'm--I'm her great-grandson so, 661 00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:17,100 and she's been married-- 662 00:27:17,167 --> 00:27:18,433 well, she was actually married a couple of times. 663 00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:19,567 - Who, she was? 664 00:27:19,633 --> 00:27:21,100 - Yes. 665 00:27:21,167 --> 00:27:23,900 - Remember, I told you that she was married twice. 666 00:27:23,967 --> 00:27:26,267 - Right. How--she was married twice? 667 00:27:26,333 --> 00:27:27,333 - More than once for sure. - Okay. 668 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,133 - She's out in Roland. 669 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,233 - Well, could I meet her now? 670 00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:35,300 - Possibly, yeah. 671 00:27:35,367 --> 00:27:37,867 - After showing Jake that we were good for the reward money, 672 00:27:37,933 --> 00:27:39,767 he was willing to help us out. 673 00:27:39,833 --> 00:27:42,067 So he gave us his great-grandma's address 674 00:27:42,067 --> 00:27:43,633 and we headed across town 675 00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:45,533 to see if this was the Frances 676 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,267 that Bill had been searching for. 677 00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:49,267 I think we're close. 678 00:27:49,333 --> 00:27:52,767 [dramatic music] 679 00:27:52,833 --> 00:27:53,900 You ready? 680 00:27:53,967 --> 00:27:55,233 - Yeah. 681 00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:56,333 - Okay. 682 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,433 [birds chirping] 683 00:28:36,667 --> 00:28:38,733 [knock on door] 684 00:28:50,333 --> 00:28:52,200 - Hello. - How are you? 685 00:28:52,267 --> 00:28:53,333 - I'm fine. 686 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,667 - You're Frances? 687 00:28:55,733 --> 00:28:58,133 - I'm Frances. I'm Frances Watson. 688 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,867 - What was your maiden name? Was it Gaddy? 689 00:29:00,933 --> 00:29:04,367 - No, my maiden name was Aplin. 690 00:29:04,433 --> 00:29:06,533 - Oh, okay. 691 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,067 I was looking for a Francis Gaddy. 692 00:29:10,133 --> 00:29:12,233 - No. 693 00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:14,600 Come--come in, I'm sorry. 694 00:29:14,667 --> 00:29:18,267 I'm not--I'm not meaning to make you stand out here 695 00:29:18,333 --> 00:29:20,067 on the street corner. 696 00:29:20,133 --> 00:29:22,067 - Hi, I'm Nathan. 697 00:29:22,067 --> 00:29:23,900 - Hi, Nathan. 698 00:29:23,967 --> 00:29:25,067 - Hi. - I'm Frances. 699 00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:26,100 - Hi, nice to meet you. 700 00:29:26,167 --> 00:29:27,233 Is this-- is this the-- 701 00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:28,567 - No. 702 00:29:28,633 --> 00:29:31,367 - So this woman doesn't ring a bell? 703 00:29:31,433 --> 00:29:32,467 Okay. 704 00:29:32,533 --> 00:29:34,800 - Could I use your restroom? 705 00:29:34,867 --> 00:29:37,467 - Just a moment and let me see if there's anybody in it 706 00:29:37,533 --> 00:29:40,700 because there's more than one person in this house so. 707 00:29:42,067 --> 00:29:43,667 - Okay. 708 00:29:43,733 --> 00:29:45,267 - You can't wait? 709 00:29:45,333 --> 00:29:47,067 - Well, when the bladder's full, 710 00:29:47,133 --> 00:29:48,400 you feel better when you empty it 711 00:29:48,467 --> 00:29:50,933 even though you could wait. 712 00:29:51,067 --> 00:29:53,233 - I'll--I'll wait outside, Bill. 713 00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:55,133 - God bless you. 714 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,133 - Thank you. I appreciate all your help. 715 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:04,700 * * 716 00:30:04,767 --> 00:30:07,600 - Hey, you all good? 717 00:30:07,667 --> 00:30:09,233 - Yeah. 718 00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:10,867 - Okay. 719 00:30:10,933 --> 00:30:13,400 - It wasn't her, though. 720 00:30:13,467 --> 00:30:17,067 * * 721 00:30:17,133 --> 00:30:19,233 - How was her bathroom? 722 00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:23,133 - Mm, it was all right, you know, 723 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,333 but it could have been cleaner. 724 00:30:32,667 --> 00:30:34,100 - After doing some research in the phone book, 725 00:30:34,167 --> 00:30:36,033 I discovered that there was no one 726 00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:37,833 with the first name Frances that still lived in Dumas. 727 00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:39,933 I was hopeful that one of her old classmates 728 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,833 might still have a connection to her 729 00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:44,767 but I was struggling to find any that were still alive 730 00:30:44,833 --> 00:30:47,400 who would respond to my emails. 731 00:30:47,467 --> 00:30:49,133 While we were in town, 732 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,500 Bill attended his 60-year high school reunion 733 00:30:51,567 --> 00:30:53,133 at Little Rock Central High. 734 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,133 - Oh, hello! 735 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,700 - Dozens of his old classmates who still lived in the area 736 00:30:58,767 --> 00:31:00,633 came out to catch up, share stories, 737 00:31:00,700 --> 00:31:02,533 and take photos. 738 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,167 Seeing all of Bill's old friends reconnect 739 00:31:05,233 --> 00:31:06,767 gave me an idea 740 00:31:06,833 --> 00:31:08,667 that maybe something like this would be a way 741 00:31:08,733 --> 00:31:11,900 to get Frances' classmates to come to us. 742 00:31:11,967 --> 00:31:14,867 In the yearbook we had, Frances was a sophomore. 743 00:31:14,933 --> 00:31:17,900 So I designed an invite for a Dumas High School 744 00:31:17,967 --> 00:31:21,100 class of 1959 57-year reunion, 745 00:31:21,167 --> 00:31:23,667 printed out thousands of copies, 746 00:31:23,733 --> 00:31:26,133 and then met up with a group of local boys with bikes 747 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,133 to distribute them in the hopes that anyone from the yearbook 748 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,500 who was still in town would come to the event. 749 00:31:31,567 --> 00:31:33,300 All right, so which one of you guys is the leader? 750 00:31:33,367 --> 00:31:34,900 - He's the boss. 751 00:31:34,967 --> 00:31:36,500 - You're the leader? - Yeah. 752 00:31:36,567 --> 00:31:38,333 - I'm gonna talk to you then. - All right. 753 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,633 - I'm gonna need these fliers distributed 754 00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:41,300 to every home in Dumas, okay? 755 00:31:41,367 --> 00:31:43,100 - All right. - Now, I don't want you guys, 756 00:31:43,167 --> 00:31:45,633 you know, throwing them in the trash and saying you did it. 757 00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:47,067 I really need them to go to every home, okay? 758 00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:48,433 - All right. You got it. 759 00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:50,200 - Got it? - Got it. 760 00:31:50,267 --> 00:31:53,633 - Okay. You guys seem like good boys, so I can trust you. 761 00:31:53,700 --> 00:31:54,667 All right. - Sounds good. 762 00:31:54,733 --> 00:31:56,233 - Great. - Yes, sir. 763 00:31:56,300 --> 00:31:58,100 - So with the invites being delivered, 764 00:31:58,167 --> 00:32:01,400 I rented a church social hall and began preparations. 765 00:32:01,467 --> 00:32:03,167 We decided it would be best if Bill attended 766 00:32:03,233 --> 00:32:05,500 posing as a fellow student 767 00:32:05,567 --> 00:32:07,900 so he could blend in and ask about Frances 768 00:32:07,967 --> 00:32:09,400 without arousing suspicion. 769 00:32:09,467 --> 00:32:11,200 Are you cool to go undercover again? 770 00:32:11,267 --> 00:32:12,733 - Yeah. 771 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,367 - So I picked someone in the yearbook 772 00:32:14,433 --> 00:32:15,967 who Bill somewhere resembled... 773 00:32:16,067 --> 00:32:17,867 You kinda look like him. 774 00:32:17,933 --> 00:32:19,767 and then we spent the afternoon practicing his portrayal 775 00:32:19,833 --> 00:32:21,733 using the information we had. 776 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,700 - Hi, I'm Alex Sanford. 777 00:32:24,767 --> 00:32:27,967 You might remember me from the chess club, 778 00:32:28,067 --> 00:32:29,867 the glee club. 779 00:32:29,933 --> 00:32:32,967 And we all were in high school together, 780 00:32:33,067 --> 00:32:36,367 and I just want to say 781 00:32:36,433 --> 00:32:40,500 happy Dumas class reunion. 782 00:32:42,233 --> 00:32:43,967 - Bill was pretty convincing as Alex, 783 00:32:44,067 --> 00:32:46,067 but I also needed him to memorize facts 784 00:32:46,133 --> 00:32:47,767 about other members of the class 785 00:32:47,833 --> 00:32:48,900 that he might encounter. 786 00:32:48,967 --> 00:32:50,867 Tommy Peacock. 787 00:32:50,933 --> 00:32:53,267 - Uh... 788 00:32:53,333 --> 00:32:55,500 glee club, track. 789 00:32:55,567 --> 00:32:57,500 - No, basketball, band, and track. 790 00:32:57,567 --> 00:32:59,567 - Basketball, band, and track. 791 00:32:59,633 --> 00:33:00,700 - Got it? 792 00:33:00,767 --> 00:33:02,067 - Mm-hmm. 793 00:33:02,067 --> 00:33:03,700 - He was still a little shaky, 794 00:33:03,767 --> 00:33:05,500 but it would have to do, because before long, 795 00:33:05,567 --> 00:33:07,667 the night of the reunion was upon us. 796 00:33:07,733 --> 00:33:10,300 We had successfully transformed the church social hall 797 00:33:10,367 --> 00:33:13,900 I had rented into a ballroom fit for Cinderella herself, 798 00:33:13,967 --> 00:33:16,933 and Bill looked like the spitting image of Alex Sanford 799 00:33:17,067 --> 00:33:19,133 in the thick-rimmed, nonprescription glasses 800 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,933 we had purchased from Sam's Club. 801 00:33:21,067 --> 00:33:23,233 So while we waited for guests to arrive, 802 00:33:23,300 --> 00:33:25,833 Bill hid outside while I changed into the outfit 803 00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:28,967 of the school mascot, the Dumas Bobcat, 804 00:33:29,067 --> 00:33:30,667 so I could covertly come to Bill's aid 805 00:33:30,733 --> 00:33:32,567 if he ever needed help. 806 00:33:32,633 --> 00:33:35,567 [big band music] 807 00:33:35,633 --> 00:33:37,667 * * 808 00:33:37,733 --> 00:33:40,100 We only got a few RSVPs, 809 00:33:40,167 --> 00:33:42,067 but I was hopeful one of these people 810 00:33:42,067 --> 00:33:44,767 would have kept in touch with Frances over the years 811 00:33:44,833 --> 00:33:46,933 and perhaps even know her whereabouts. 812 00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:54,067 So once the room had filled and the guests were mingling, 813 00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:56,833 it was time for Bill to make his entrance. 814 00:33:56,900 --> 00:33:59,833 [playing "When the Saints Go Marching In"] 815 00:33:59,900 --> 00:34:02,433 * * 816 00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:05,533 - Alex Sanford, Doris, it's been a while. 817 00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:11,133 I'm a neurosurgeon. 818 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,700 - Before asking anyone about Frances, 819 00:34:14,767 --> 00:34:16,367 I had Bill make some small talk 820 00:34:16,433 --> 00:34:18,200 to make sure he was blending in. 821 00:34:18,267 --> 00:34:20,900 - Well, I can't believe I'm sitting here with Tommy Peacock, 822 00:34:20,967 --> 00:34:22,733 basketball, band, and track. 823 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,300 - [laughs] 824 00:34:24,367 --> 00:34:26,100 I was a better tenor sax player 825 00:34:26,167 --> 00:34:28,967 than I was at basketball or track runner. 826 00:34:29,067 --> 00:34:30,533 - Are you still running track? 827 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,433 - No, sir. - No. 828 00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:34,633 - But I knew that Bill would still have to do more 829 00:34:34,700 --> 00:34:36,967 to be fully embraced by the group. 830 00:34:39,067 --> 00:34:41,400 - Grade school, wasn't it? 831 00:34:42,933 --> 00:34:45,100 - From my research, I learned that Dumas 832 00:34:45,167 --> 00:34:46,867 had an unofficial town anthem 833 00:34:46,933 --> 00:34:49,667 called "I'm a Ding Dong Daddy from Dumas." 834 00:34:49,733 --> 00:34:52,067 So before the event, I rehearsed it with Bill 835 00:34:52,133 --> 00:34:53,900 knowing it would be a surefire way 836 00:34:53,967 --> 00:34:55,767 of proving he was a local. 837 00:34:55,833 --> 00:34:58,067 And with the song lyrics hidden on teleprompter 838 00:34:58,133 --> 00:34:59,867 behind the Arkansas flag, 839 00:35:00,067 --> 00:35:01,633 I signaled Bill to hit the stage 840 00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:04,267 to cement his insider status. 841 00:35:04,333 --> 00:35:07,600 [jazz music] 842 00:35:07,667 --> 00:35:14,700 * * 843 00:35:16,833 --> 00:35:20,400 - * Yeah, I'm a ding dong daddy from Dumas * 844 00:35:20,467 --> 00:35:23,433 * And you ought to see me do my stuff * 845 00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:27,600 * I'm a fella from Horner's Corner * 846 00:35:27,667 --> 00:35:30,700 * Can you [stammers] * 847 00:35:30,767 --> 00:35:34,400 * I'm a paper cuttin' cutie got a gal named Katy * 848 00:35:34,467 --> 00:35:37,767 * She's a little heavy lady and I call her baby * 849 00:35:37,833 --> 00:35:40,800 * I'm a ding dong daddy from Dumas * 850 00:35:40,867 --> 00:35:44,267 * And you ought to see me do my stuff * 851 00:35:44,333 --> 00:35:47,967 * Yes a ding dong daddy from Dumas * 852 00:35:48,067 --> 00:35:51,567 * And you ought to see me do my stuff * 853 00:35:51,633 --> 00:35:53,300 - The performance was a hit, 854 00:35:53,367 --> 00:35:56,100 and it seemed like even the most skeptical in the group 855 00:35:56,167 --> 00:35:58,967 couldn't deny they were looking at a local. 856 00:35:59,067 --> 00:36:06,133 * * 857 00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:15,067 So with Bill in their good graces, 858 00:36:15,067 --> 00:36:17,433 it was time for him to start asking about Frances. 859 00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:18,800 [cheers and applause] 860 00:36:18,867 --> 00:36:20,900 - Thank you. - Whoo! 861 00:36:22,933 --> 00:36:25,500 - Alex Sanford. Nice to see you again. 862 00:36:25,567 --> 00:36:28,600 Have you ever heard anything from Frances Gaddy? 863 00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:32,933 No. 864 00:36:35,533 --> 00:36:38,867 Whatever happened to Frances Gaddy? 865 00:36:43,900 --> 00:36:46,533 You ever hear from her? 866 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,633 - But no one Bill talked to had seen or heard from her 867 00:36:49,700 --> 00:36:51,333 since high school. 868 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,900 Some thought she had moved out of state years ago 869 00:36:53,967 --> 00:36:57,067 but no one was sure. 870 00:36:59,067 --> 00:37:02,367 - Where is she now? 871 00:37:04,433 --> 00:37:08,633 You haven't heard anything, period. 872 00:37:08,700 --> 00:37:10,600 - If Frances had left the state, 873 00:37:10,667 --> 00:37:13,700 this search would become exponentially more difficult, 874 00:37:13,767 --> 00:37:15,367 and by the end of the night, 875 00:37:15,433 --> 00:37:16,900 I was having serious doubts 876 00:37:16,967 --> 00:37:20,067 that we would ever find this woman. 877 00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:39,967 These are from 1960? 878 00:37:40,067 --> 00:37:41,300 - Yes. 879 00:37:41,367 --> 00:37:42,367 - All of these are from Frances? 880 00:37:42,433 --> 00:37:44,233 - Frances. 881 00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:46,100 - While going through some storage 882 00:37:46,167 --> 00:37:48,167 at his older sister Betsy's house over the weekend, 883 00:37:48,233 --> 00:37:50,200 Bill has discovered dozens of letters 884 00:37:50,267 --> 00:37:54,067 that Frances has written him between 1960 and '61. 885 00:37:54,133 --> 00:37:57,067 [somber piano music] 886 00:37:57,133 --> 00:37:59,533 * * 887 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,067 - "Dear Bill, just a note to say I'm thinking about you 888 00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:03,900 "as usual tonight. 889 00:38:03,967 --> 00:38:06,567 "I'm all alone tonight and I wish you were here, 890 00:38:06,633 --> 00:38:09,233 "but your picture is sitting on my other pillow. 891 00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:11,467 "Each time that I look up and see your picture, 892 00:38:11,533 --> 00:38:13,767 "it reminds me of how much that I love you. 893 00:38:13,833 --> 00:38:17,100 "It seems like a thousand years since I've talked to you. 894 00:38:17,167 --> 00:38:20,300 "I wish that it was possible for us to see each other 895 00:38:20,367 --> 00:38:22,067 "but it isn't. 896 00:38:22,067 --> 00:38:25,333 "I think about you a lot. 897 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,967 "Some day we will be able to have each other 898 00:38:27,067 --> 00:38:28,700 "and we will appreciate the value 899 00:38:28,767 --> 00:38:30,467 "of a pure and true love 900 00:38:30,533 --> 00:38:33,933 "that we both have worked and waited so long for. 901 00:38:34,067 --> 00:38:36,167 "My love is pure and clean for you, darling, 902 00:38:36,233 --> 00:38:38,133 and only for you." 903 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,567 - That's a strong statement. 904 00:38:40,633 --> 00:38:42,067 * * 905 00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:43,933 - She was in love with you, Bill. 906 00:38:44,067 --> 00:38:46,467 * * 907 00:38:46,533 --> 00:38:49,067 It was the first real evidence of their relationship 908 00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:51,900 I had seen, but as I kept reading, 909 00:38:51,967 --> 00:38:54,067 I realized there was a lot more going on here 910 00:38:54,067 --> 00:38:55,433 than Bill had led me to believe. 911 00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:57,333 "Dearest Bill, 912 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,067 "I'm sorry I haven't written to you sooner this week. 913 00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:01,900 "I'm warning you, 914 00:39:01,967 --> 00:39:04,433 "I won't listen to this much longer. 915 00:39:04,500 --> 00:39:06,900 "I am disgusted with you 916 00:39:06,967 --> 00:39:09,367 "of all this talk and gossip 917 00:39:09,433 --> 00:39:11,333 "about you and Gloria. 918 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,067 - You and who? 919 00:39:13,133 --> 00:39:16,667 - Gloria? 920 00:39:16,733 --> 00:39:18,067 - Was her name mentioned there? 921 00:39:18,067 --> 00:39:19,100 - Yeah. 922 00:39:19,167 --> 00:39:20,700 - Oh, yeah. 923 00:39:20,767 --> 00:39:21,833 - Who's Gloria? 924 00:39:21,900 --> 00:39:24,933 - That was a woman. 925 00:39:28,267 --> 00:39:31,433 - Were you cheating on her? 926 00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:36,533 - I think we went out a few times. 927 00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:42,200 - These letters chronicled the breakdown of a relationship 928 00:39:42,267 --> 00:39:45,333 that was far more complex than the storybook version 929 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,333 Bill had given me. 930 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,833 and it did make me wonder 931 00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:50,833 if there was anything else he was hiding. 932 00:39:50,900 --> 00:39:52,167 "I know I'm not beautiful 933 00:39:52,233 --> 00:39:54,367 and I'm not an actress." 934 00:39:54,433 --> 00:39:57,733 - Oh, she was beautiful, come on. 935 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,833 - "There are many things I do not know about you. 936 00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:03,500 Bill, I can't believe that you're playing with my love." 937 00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:07,867 - Yeah. 938 00:40:07,933 --> 00:40:09,433 Well... 939 00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:12,033 - Why does she say she doesn't know you? 940 00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:14,333 "There are many things I do not know about you." 941 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,833 What does that mean? 942 00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:18,200 - I don't know. 943 00:40:18,267 --> 00:40:21,400 I-- 944 00:40:21,467 --> 00:40:24,500 Maybe she couldn't figure out me. 945 00:40:26,033 --> 00:40:28,633 - Can you figure out you? 946 00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:30,333 - [chuckles] 947 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,767 Myself? 948 00:40:32,833 --> 00:40:35,033 Sometimes I wonder. 949 00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:38,500 [dramatic music] 950 00:40:43,067 --> 00:40:47,867 - And you find yourself in a different place... 951 00:40:49,933 --> 00:40:53,300 a place where you were when you were 20 years old... 952 00:40:56,367 --> 00:40:59,667 when you were attending the First Baptist Church 953 00:40:59,733 --> 00:41:02,833 in Little Rock, Arkansas. 954 00:41:07,067 --> 00:41:10,067 And take a look down at your feet... 955 00:41:11,567 --> 00:41:14,533 and notice what you're wearing. 956 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:15,767 - I had booked Bill some sessions 957 00:41:15,833 --> 00:41:17,567 with a local hypnotherapist 958 00:41:17,633 --> 00:41:19,233 in the hopes it could dig up some memories 959 00:41:19,300 --> 00:41:21,300 that would help me understand this man. 960 00:41:21,367 --> 00:41:23,400 But after several sessions, 961 00:41:23,467 --> 00:41:25,700 all he seemed to recall were old statistics 962 00:41:25,767 --> 00:41:27,500 about the Arkansas Razorbacks. 963 00:41:27,567 --> 00:41:30,633 - It was a bad call. We should have won the game. 964 00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:33,300 Should have won the game, 965 00:41:33,367 --> 00:41:35,633 and... 966 00:41:35,700 --> 00:41:39,200 it was 15-14 was the final score. 967 00:41:39,267 --> 00:41:41,233 - Wow. 968 00:41:41,300 --> 00:41:43,067 - Meanwhile, I'd been going through the letters 969 00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:45,533 Frances had sent Bill nearly 60 years ago 970 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,433 trying to piece together the details 971 00:41:47,500 --> 00:41:49,400 of what I was beginning to understand 972 00:41:49,467 --> 00:41:52,067 had been a very complex relationship. 973 00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:54,533 Frances was head over heels for Bill, 974 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,933 and I was struck by how much she believed in him, 975 00:41:57,067 --> 00:41:59,367 his career, and their future together. 976 00:41:59,433 --> 00:42:01,600 - Each day makes me love you more 977 00:42:01,667 --> 00:42:03,767 It's hard to explain. 978 00:42:03,833 --> 00:42:05,833 In a way it is unexplainable. 979 00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:09,433 We can work together for the kind of future that we want. 980 00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:12,067 I realize that it will be a long, hard struggle 981 00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:13,900 to reach your goal as an actor and singer, 982 00:42:13,967 --> 00:42:16,933 but someday you will reach it with God's help. 983 00:42:17,067 --> 00:42:19,333 You will make it. 984 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,067 - But as hopeful as she was, 985 00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:23,333 there were some passages that gave me pause. 986 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,167 - One that I'll have for the man that I marry 987 00:42:25,233 --> 00:42:27,233 will be purity. 988 00:42:27,300 --> 00:42:30,600 If you don't want a girl like that, I'm sorry. 989 00:42:30,667 --> 00:42:33,067 I knew that you wanted to know just how far that I would go. 990 00:42:33,067 --> 00:42:35,100 Well, you know now. 991 00:42:35,167 --> 00:42:37,300 Let us drop that subject now. 992 00:42:37,367 --> 00:42:39,433 - In these letters, Bill almost seemed like 993 00:42:39,500 --> 00:42:41,833 a different person than the man I knew. 994 00:42:41,900 --> 00:42:43,500 - I don't believe you can love anyone 995 00:42:43,567 --> 00:42:45,633 if you don't respect them. 996 00:42:45,700 --> 00:42:47,333 - And I couldn't help but wonder 997 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,900 if he acted differently around women. 998 00:42:49,967 --> 00:42:52,500 If there was a potential of reuniting these two, 999 00:42:52,567 --> 00:42:55,700 I wanted to make sure that Bill would act appropriately. 1000 00:42:55,767 --> 00:43:00,067 There's this guy, Bill, that was-- 1001 00:43:00,133 --> 00:43:02,733 he's, like, searching for this long-lost love. 1002 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,067 - Okay. 1003 00:43:04,067 --> 00:43:05,900 - So I found someone online 1004 00:43:05,967 --> 00:43:07,633 who was willing to go on a date with Bill 1005 00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:10,433 so I could observe his behavior in a romantic setting. 1006 00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:13,367 Just so you know, he's-- he's very old. 1007 00:43:13,433 --> 00:43:15,900 Like, extremely old. 1008 00:43:15,967 --> 00:43:17,533 - [laughs] 1009 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,533 I have a lot of clients that are widowed 1010 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,400 or a lot that are widowed, 1011 00:43:23,467 --> 00:43:27,333 divorced, newly divorced. [laughs] 1012 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,400 - Her name was Maci, 1013 00:43:29,467 --> 00:43:31,533 and even though I didn't know much about the escort business, 1014 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,067 she was cool with my request to have the date with Bill 1015 00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:35,833 be only talking with no touching. 1016 00:43:35,900 --> 00:43:37,533 - Yeah, mm-hmm. 1017 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,333 - So I made a booking through her website 1018 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,567 at her flirtation rate of $350 an hour 1019 00:43:41,633 --> 00:43:43,633 and then met up with Bill 1020 00:43:43,700 --> 00:43:45,867 to see if I could get him to agree to a date with Maci. 1021 00:43:45,933 --> 00:43:47,733 I thought it might be nice for you to have 1022 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,433 some companionship, you know, 1023 00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:51,367 someone to hang out with. 1024 00:43:51,433 --> 00:43:54,200 So I decided to book you a session 1025 00:43:54,267 --> 00:43:56,367 with an escort. 1026 00:43:56,433 --> 00:43:59,500 - [laughs] Really? 1027 00:44:02,333 --> 00:44:04,300 Escort service? 1028 00:44:04,367 --> 00:44:06,433 - Yeah, she's a professional escort. 1029 00:44:06,500 --> 00:44:08,500 - No, I'm sorry. 1030 00:44:08,567 --> 00:44:10,100 - You don't want that? 1031 00:44:10,167 --> 00:44:11,633 - I hate to use that term, 1032 00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:15,100 you gotta know what you're sticking it in. 1033 00:44:15,167 --> 00:44:16,967 - Jesus, Bill. 1034 00:44:17,067 --> 00:44:19,100 - That's right. 1035 00:44:19,167 --> 00:44:21,733 - Even after I told Bill it wasn't supposed to be sexual, 1036 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,467 he declined, saying it went against his values. 1037 00:44:24,533 --> 00:44:26,733 - Sodom and Gomorrah sin. 1038 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,733 - A sin? - Yes. 1039 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,633 - It was too bad Bill didn't want to do it 1040 00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:32,567 but since we had already paid her, 1041 00:44:32,633 --> 00:44:34,633 I felt it might be worth interviewing Maci 1042 00:44:34,700 --> 00:44:37,233 to see if she had any insights into the mind-set 1043 00:44:37,300 --> 00:44:39,133 of old, single men. 1044 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,300 So later that day, she agreed to meet up with me 1045 00:44:41,367 --> 00:44:43,133 for an on-camera chat. 1046 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,433 - I've never done this, so... 1047 00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:45,700 - You've never been on camera. 1048 00:44:45,767 --> 00:44:47,433 - Like--no. - Oh, really? 1049 00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:48,600 - [laughs] Never. 1050 00:44:48,667 --> 00:44:49,767 - Is it weird for you? 1051 00:44:49,833 --> 00:44:50,967 - It is a little weird, yeah. 1052 00:44:51,067 --> 00:44:52,700 - Okay. Are you okay with it? 1053 00:44:52,767 --> 00:44:54,233 - Yeah, I'm okay. - Okay. 1054 00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:56,067 - It's just different. 1055 00:44:56,133 --> 00:44:57,733 - It took a little time for Maci to get comfortable 1056 00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,700 with the cameras, but she soon volunteered 1057 00:44:59,767 --> 00:45:01,300 to tell me about what she does. 1058 00:45:01,367 --> 00:45:02,833 - A lot of IT people, 1059 00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:06,167 a lot of, like, corporate America finance. 1060 00:45:06,233 --> 00:45:07,667 - That's who you see the most. 1061 00:45:07,733 --> 00:45:09,667 - Attorneys, doctors. 1062 00:45:09,733 --> 00:45:12,067 - Oh, wow. What about judges? 1063 00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:14,633 - I've met a judge, I have. 1064 00:45:14,700 --> 00:45:16,333 - Really? - I've met a preacher. 1065 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,367 I've met-- [laughs] 1066 00:45:18,433 --> 00:45:20,700 I've actually met two preachers. 1067 00:45:20,767 --> 00:45:21,900 - Met, meaning, like, they-- 1068 00:45:21,967 --> 00:45:23,767 - Yeah. 1069 00:45:23,833 --> 00:45:25,467 - I was surprised to learn that the escort business 1070 00:45:25,533 --> 00:45:26,967 was a lot more normal and accepted 1071 00:45:27,067 --> 00:45:28,300 than I initially thought. 1072 00:45:28,367 --> 00:45:30,167 - Like, I meet some really great people 1073 00:45:30,233 --> 00:45:32,100 and they'll want to keep in touch. 1074 00:45:32,167 --> 00:45:34,133 Like, they'll send emails and be like, "Hey, how are you doing?" 1075 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,233 - Really? - "Hope everything's okay." 1076 00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:36,800 Yeah. 1077 00:45:36,867 --> 00:45:38,967 If I feel like I'm gonna connect with you, 1078 00:45:39,067 --> 00:45:40,867 I know I'm gonna have a good time, 1079 00:45:40,933 --> 00:45:43,833 and you're probably gonna have a good time, too. 1080 00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:46,333 - Maci's perspective was fascinating, 1081 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,500 but she also wanted to know more about me. 1082 00:45:48,567 --> 00:45:50,700 I make a show called "Nathan for You" on-- 1083 00:45:50,767 --> 00:45:52,700 - Okay. - and it's one Comedy Central. 1084 00:45:52,767 --> 00:45:53,900 It's-- - Is it funny? 1085 00:45:53,967 --> 00:45:55,233 Is it like a funny thing? 1086 00:45:55,300 --> 00:45:57,200 - I mean, I hope sometimes. 1087 00:45:57,267 --> 00:45:58,567 - [laughs] - I don't know. 1088 00:45:58,633 --> 00:45:59,900 Do you think I'm funny? 1089 00:46:00,067 --> 00:46:01,233 - I don't know. 1090 00:46:01,300 --> 00:46:02,833 You seem kind of serious right now. 1091 00:46:02,900 --> 00:46:04,267 - Do you want to see some of the show? 1092 00:46:04,333 --> 00:46:05,833 I have-- - Yeah. 1093 00:46:05,900 --> 00:46:07,700 - I have it in my computer in my backpack. 1094 00:46:07,767 --> 00:46:08,900 - Yeah, I'll watch it. 1095 00:46:08,967 --> 00:46:10,233 - You want to? - Yeah. 1096 00:46:10,300 --> 00:46:11,633 - Okay, I'll go get it. 1097 00:46:11,700 --> 00:46:12,833 - Okay. - All right, wait here. 1098 00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:14,633 - Okay. 1099 00:46:14,700 --> 00:46:16,733 - My name is Nathan Fielder, 1100 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,867 and I graduated from one of Canada's top business schools 1101 00:46:18,933 --> 00:46:20,900 with really good grades. 1102 00:46:20,967 --> 00:46:23,233 Now, I'm using my knowledge 1103 00:46:23,300 --> 00:46:24,900 to help struggling small business owners... 1104 00:46:24,967 --> 00:46:26,400 - Was that actually your grades? 1105 00:46:26,467 --> 00:46:28,233 - competitive world. 1106 00:46:28,300 --> 00:46:30,267 Maci seemed to enjoy my show. 1107 00:46:30,333 --> 00:46:31,700 - You're a little funny. 1108 00:46:31,767 --> 00:46:33,100 - Okay. - Kind of mean but... 1109 00:46:33,167 --> 00:46:34,367 - Mean? - but you're a little funny. 1110 00:46:34,433 --> 00:46:36,100 Yeah. - What do you mean? 1111 00:46:36,167 --> 00:46:39,100 - You lied to every last one of them. 1112 00:46:39,167 --> 00:46:41,233 - I mean, it's business. 1113 00:46:41,300 --> 00:46:42,767 - You're like mean funny. [laughs] 1114 00:46:42,833 --> 00:46:43,933 - It's business, right? 1115 00:46:44,067 --> 00:46:46,367 - You're right, yeah. 1116 00:46:46,433 --> 00:46:47,733 - But eventually she had to get going, 1117 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,067 so we said our good-byes. 1118 00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:50,833 Bye, Maci. - Bye. 1119 00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:53,267 [upbeat music] 1120 00:46:53,333 --> 00:46:55,233 - Without any promising leads to pursue, 1121 00:46:55,300 --> 00:46:57,600 I found myself stuck in a strange city 1122 00:46:57,667 --> 00:47:00,233 with a lot of free time on my hands. 1123 00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:02,267 I spent most of my nights staying in 1124 00:47:02,333 --> 00:47:04,300 and watching TV 1125 00:47:04,367 --> 00:47:07,600 or going out to a nearby bar to chat up the locals. 1126 00:47:09,433 --> 00:47:11,800 What does? 1127 00:47:11,867 --> 00:47:14,267 Oh, your watchband wears out? 1128 00:47:14,333 --> 00:47:17,100 Yeah, that-- that's not good. 1129 00:47:17,167 --> 00:47:20,667 But overall, I found the social interactions to be lacking, 1130 00:47:20,733 --> 00:47:23,500 and I realized the only interesting conversation 1131 00:47:23,567 --> 00:47:25,900 I'd had in a long time was with Maci. 1132 00:47:25,967 --> 00:47:27,567 So I decided to call her up 1133 00:47:27,633 --> 00:47:29,933 and see if she wanted to hang out again. 1134 00:47:30,067 --> 00:47:31,167 - Hello. 1135 00:47:31,233 --> 00:47:32,700 - Hi, Maci? 1136 00:47:32,767 --> 00:47:34,300 - Hey. 1137 00:47:34,367 --> 00:47:36,933 - I had a really good time 1138 00:47:37,067 --> 00:47:39,167 talking to you in the park and stuff. 1139 00:47:39,233 --> 00:47:43,333 I was wondering if you would want to hang out again 1140 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:44,833 or... 1141 00:47:44,900 --> 00:47:48,367 - Well, it's $350 for the hour. 1142 00:47:48,433 --> 00:47:51,767 You just let me know when you want to book. 1143 00:47:51,833 --> 00:47:53,267 - Okay. 1144 00:47:53,333 --> 00:47:54,367 - Hey. - How's it going? 1145 00:47:54,433 --> 00:47:56,300 - Good. How are you? 1146 00:47:56,367 --> 00:47:57,433 - Good to see you. 1147 00:47:57,500 --> 00:47:59,467 - Good to see you. 1148 00:47:59,533 --> 00:48:01,400 - This is for you. 1149 00:48:01,467 --> 00:48:03,333 - We don't do that in public, but it's okay. 1150 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,500 - Oh, okay, really? 1151 00:48:04,567 --> 00:48:05,967 - [laughs] Yes. 1152 00:48:06,067 --> 00:48:07,333 - Okay, when do I-- I didn't know. 1153 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:08,533 I just wanted to make sure. 1154 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,300 - It's a gift card or a gift bag. 1155 00:48:10,367 --> 00:48:11,633 - Oh, what do you mean? 1156 00:48:11,700 --> 00:48:12,767 - So it doesn't look funny in public. 1157 00:48:12,833 --> 00:48:14,233 - What am I supposed to do? 1158 00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:15,500 - [laughs] - Oh, you say-- 1159 00:48:15,567 --> 00:48:16,633 - When you're in public-- 1160 00:48:16,700 --> 00:48:17,833 - You give a gift card. 1161 00:48:17,900 --> 00:48:20,300 - Like a card, like a greeting card. 1162 00:48:20,367 --> 00:48:22,633 - Oh, okay. Okay, okay, I know for next time. 1163 00:48:22,700 --> 00:48:23,733 Okay. - Okay. 1164 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,567 - Thank you. I'm so--yeah. 1165 00:48:26,633 --> 00:48:28,100 It was a little odd to be paying someone 1166 00:48:28,167 --> 00:48:29,867 for their company, 1167 00:48:29,933 --> 00:48:32,067 but Maci had a way of making it feel normal. 1168 00:48:32,133 --> 00:48:33,967 - I watched some more of your stuff. 1169 00:48:34,067 --> 00:48:35,300 - Really? - I did. 1170 00:48:35,367 --> 00:48:36,633 - What'd you think? 1171 00:48:36,700 --> 00:48:39,067 - Okay, so... [laughs] 1172 00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:41,733 I watched the... 1173 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,233 Ghost Realtor. 1174 00:48:43,300 --> 00:48:44,367 - Oh, yeah. 1175 00:48:44,433 --> 00:48:45,967 - That one was really funny. 1176 00:48:46,067 --> 00:48:47,700 - Thank you, Maci. 1177 00:48:47,767 --> 00:48:49,633 That's really nice of you to say. 1178 00:48:49,700 --> 00:48:51,767 I had a really fun evening with Maci, 1179 00:48:51,833 --> 00:48:55,400 and after the hour was up, I knew I wanted to see her again. 1180 00:48:55,467 --> 00:48:58,533 So over the next week, I set up a couple more dates. 1181 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,467 Happy birthday. 1182 00:49:00,533 --> 00:49:02,267 - [laughs] Thank you. 1183 00:49:02,333 --> 00:49:03,933 - I did it right, right? 1184 00:49:04,067 --> 00:49:05,933 - You did. You're learning. - Okay. 1185 00:49:06,067 --> 00:49:08,400 This is the type of place you'd propose to someone. 1186 00:49:08,467 --> 00:49:10,300 - Oh, you're not gonna propose, are you? 1187 00:49:10,367 --> 00:49:11,633 - No, I'm not. 1188 00:49:11,700 --> 00:49:13,500 - Okay, good. [laughs] 1189 00:49:13,567 --> 00:49:14,933 - I'm just saying, it's the type, you know what I mean. 1190 00:49:15,067 --> 00:49:16,300 - It is kind of the type of place. 1191 00:49:16,367 --> 00:49:17,300 - Yeah. 1192 00:49:17,367 --> 00:49:18,567 You have a nice laugh. 1193 00:49:18,633 --> 00:49:19,967 - I actually hate my laugh. 1194 00:49:20,067 --> 00:49:21,233 - Really? - Yeah. 1195 00:49:21,300 --> 00:49:22,567 - I think you have a nice laugh. 1196 00:49:22,633 --> 00:49:24,167 - It's awkward, I don't know. 1197 00:49:24,233 --> 00:49:25,567 - No, you have a nice laugh. 1198 00:49:25,633 --> 00:49:26,800 - Well, thank you. 1199 00:49:26,867 --> 00:49:28,900 - You're welcome. 1200 00:49:28,967 --> 00:49:32,067 [sighs] 1201 00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:36,367 - Bye, Maci. - Bye. 1202 00:49:36,433 --> 00:49:38,067 - Okay, see you soon. 1203 00:49:38,067 --> 00:49:40,067 - See ya. 1204 00:49:40,067 --> 00:49:41,967 - We had been in Arkansas for several weeks now 1205 00:49:42,067 --> 00:49:44,067 and I was starting to lose sight 1206 00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:45,967 of what I was even doing here. 1207 00:49:46,067 --> 00:49:49,633 I felt unfocused, just filming things for no reason 1208 00:49:49,700 --> 00:49:52,267 in the hope something interesting might happen. 1209 00:49:52,333 --> 00:49:55,167 We had accumulated hundreds of hours of footage 1210 00:49:55,233 --> 00:49:57,467 but I couldn't tell if this search for Frances 1211 00:49:57,533 --> 00:49:58,833 would amount to anything. 1212 00:49:58,900 --> 00:50:01,467 - Can you switch to Fox News? 1213 00:50:01,533 --> 00:50:04,133 - A part of me wondered if Bill was just a bored old man 1214 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,533 looking for an adventure to keep himself busy 1215 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,700 and if I was just a bored younger man 1216 00:50:09,767 --> 00:50:11,667 who also wanted an adventure 1217 00:50:11,733 --> 00:50:13,833 because he was tired of doing the same show 1218 00:50:13,900 --> 00:50:15,500 for four seasons. 1219 00:50:15,567 --> 00:50:17,933 [somber music] 1220 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,633 - Happy birthday. - Thank you. 1221 00:50:19,700 --> 00:50:21,200 [laughs] - Okay. 1222 00:50:21,267 --> 00:50:23,333 Apparently they shot "Gone with the Wind" here. 1223 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,300 - I've never seen it. 1224 00:50:25,367 --> 00:50:27,167 - And the more we kept shooting things, 1225 00:50:27,233 --> 00:50:29,933 the harder it was to tell where the show ended 1226 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,467 and life began. 1227 00:50:31,533 --> 00:50:34,567 - Just do it again. 1228 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,333 Okay, do it again. [laughs] 1229 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,167 - No, only twice. 1230 00:50:40,233 --> 00:50:41,700 - You want me to hold your hand? 1231 00:50:41,767 --> 00:50:43,133 - Do you want to hold my hand? 1232 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,933 - Do you want to hold my hand? 1233 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,033 - Kind of, yeah. 1234 00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:47,633 - Okay. - All right. 1235 00:50:47,700 --> 00:50:48,867 - Your hands are cold. 1236 00:50:48,933 --> 00:50:50,167 - I know. 1237 00:50:50,233 --> 00:50:52,200 - Does that make you uncomfortable? 1238 00:50:52,267 --> 00:50:54,000 - No. - Okay. 1239 00:50:54,067 --> 00:50:56,267 - I like it. 1240 00:50:56,333 --> 00:50:58,400 - Good. 1241 00:50:58,467 --> 00:51:00,733 - Near the end of one of our hangouts, 1242 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,133 Maci asked if I wanted our next date 1243 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,900 to be a little more private. 1244 00:51:04,967 --> 00:51:07,067 - You just let me know. 1245 00:51:07,133 --> 00:51:08,767 - Let you know what? 1246 00:51:08,833 --> 00:51:10,567 - That that's what you want to do. 1247 00:51:10,633 --> 00:51:12,700 - So I just-- just let you know... 1248 00:51:12,767 --> 00:51:14,533 - Yeah. 1249 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:15,667 - what I want and then-- 1250 00:51:15,733 --> 00:51:18,767 - Yeah. 1251 00:51:24,733 --> 00:51:26,600 - Okay. - Okay. 1252 00:51:26,667 --> 00:51:29,933 [upbeat music] 1253 00:51:30,067 --> 00:51:37,067 * * 1254 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,633 - [breathes deeply] 1255 00:52:00,233 --> 00:52:01,633 Hello. - Hey, how are you? 1256 00:52:01,700 --> 00:52:02,767 - Hey. Good. How are you? 1257 00:52:02,833 --> 00:52:04,067 - Good. Nice to see you. 1258 00:52:04,067 --> 00:52:05,633 - Good to see you. Come on in. 1259 00:52:05,700 --> 00:52:07,800 [upbeat dance music] 1260 00:52:07,867 --> 00:52:09,967 - * Down, dig down, dig diggy diggy down down diggy * 1261 00:52:10,067 --> 00:52:12,133 * Down, dig down, dig diggy diggy down, diggy diggy * 1262 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,467 - * Down, dig down, dig diggy diggy down down diggy * 1263 00:52:14,533 --> 00:52:16,633 * Down, dig down, dig diggy down down down down down * 1264 00:52:16,700 --> 00:52:18,800 - * Down, dig down, dig diggy diggy down down diggy * 1265 00:52:18,867 --> 00:52:21,167 * Down, dig down, dig diggy diggy down, diggy diggy * 1266 00:52:21,233 --> 00:52:23,333 - * Down, dig down, dig diggy diggy down down diggy * 1267 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,500 * Down, dig down, dig diggy diggy down * 1268 00:52:25,567 --> 00:52:27,667 - * Down, dig down, dig diggy diggy down down diggy * 1269 00:52:27,733 --> 00:52:29,833 * Down, dig down, dig diggy diggy down, diggy diggy * 1270 00:52:29,900 --> 00:52:32,300 - * Down, dig down, dig diggy diggy down down diggy * 1271 00:52:32,367 --> 00:52:33,633 * Down, diggy diggy * 1272 00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:03,400 - [laughs] 1273 00:53:03,467 --> 00:53:04,867 - [exhales sharply] 1274 00:53:04,933 --> 00:53:07,167 - You okay? 1275 00:53:07,233 --> 00:53:08,933 - I'm fine. 1276 00:53:09,067 --> 00:53:11,167 - [laughs] Okay. Good. 1277 00:53:49,900 --> 00:53:51,733 - I like you. 1278 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,833 - I like you, too. 1279 00:54:03,467 --> 00:54:04,600 - Really? 1280 00:54:04,667 --> 00:54:07,700 - Yeah. 1281 00:54:09,267 --> 00:54:12,300 - [laughs] 1282 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,367 Cool. 1283 00:54:32,067 --> 00:54:35,900 [somber music] 1284 00:54:35,967 --> 00:54:38,433 We had been contacting local cemeteries 1285 00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:40,800 to see if they had anyone with the last name Gaddy 1286 00:54:40,867 --> 00:54:42,467 buried there. 1287 00:54:42,533 --> 00:54:46,067 At first, we weren't getting much traction, 1288 00:54:46,067 --> 00:54:49,467 but then a promising lead emerged. 1289 00:54:49,533 --> 00:54:52,433 We discovered that there was a Gaddy family grave plot 1290 00:54:52,500 --> 00:54:53,967 on the outskirts of Dumas. 1291 00:54:54,067 --> 00:54:56,300 - Here it is. 1292 00:54:56,367 --> 00:54:57,933 - It wasn't Frances, 1293 00:54:58,067 --> 00:54:59,667 but after Bill took a closer look, 1294 00:54:59,733 --> 00:55:01,700 the name seemed to ring a bell. 1295 00:55:01,767 --> 00:55:04,300 - Well, now that I'm looking at the names 1296 00:55:04,367 --> 00:55:05,833 and the dates here, 1297 00:55:05,900 --> 00:55:07,800 it's a possibility it could be her parents. 1298 00:55:07,867 --> 00:55:11,167 I vaguely remember her father's name. 1299 00:55:11,233 --> 00:55:13,167 - What was it? 1300 00:55:13,233 --> 00:55:15,067 - Well, I thought it was Robert. 1301 00:55:15,100 --> 00:55:17,067 I don't know about Crews. 1302 00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:19,300 - If Bill was remembering correctly, 1303 00:55:19,367 --> 00:55:22,067 and this was Frances' father's gravestone, 1304 00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:25,067 there's a chance his obituary would contain information 1305 00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:27,167 about any surviving children. 1306 00:55:27,233 --> 00:55:30,367 So the next day we headed to the Little Rock Public Library 1307 00:55:30,433 --> 00:55:32,200 to look at their newspaper archives 1308 00:55:32,267 --> 00:55:34,067 from 1982. 1309 00:55:34,133 --> 00:55:35,833 That's it? - Yeah. 1310 00:55:35,900 --> 00:55:37,067 - Okay. - See, that goes under there, 1311 00:55:37,133 --> 00:55:40,167 under the glass, and then under here. 1312 00:55:40,233 --> 00:55:41,633 [indistinct] 1313 00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:43,467 - Like that? - Yeah. 1314 00:55:43,533 --> 00:55:46,467 [somber music] 1315 00:55:46,533 --> 00:55:50,067 * * 1316 00:55:50,133 --> 00:55:52,967 Oh, wait, here it is. 1317 00:55:53,067 --> 00:55:57,067 Robert Crews Gaddy age 63, 1318 00:55:57,067 --> 00:55:58,633 of Texarkana, Texas, 1319 00:55:58,700 --> 00:56:00,667 formerly of Little Rock. 1320 00:56:00,733 --> 00:56:03,600 Survivors are two daughters, 1321 00:56:03,667 --> 00:56:06,067 Frances Munroe 1322 00:56:06,067 --> 00:56:10,133 of North Musk-- Muskegon, Michigan. 1323 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,867 - With this information, 1324 00:56:11,933 --> 00:56:13,933 we were able to track down the Facebook page 1325 00:56:14,067 --> 00:56:17,667 of a Fran Munroe who lived in Bellaire, Michigan. 1326 00:56:19,633 --> 00:56:21,400 - My God. [laughs] 1327 00:56:21,467 --> 00:56:23,233 You think that's her? 1328 00:56:23,300 --> 00:56:24,800 - Oh, my God, Bill. 1329 00:56:24,867 --> 00:56:26,067 - Oh! [laughs] 1330 00:56:26,133 --> 00:56:27,767 - Look, Dumas Senior High. 1331 00:56:27,833 --> 00:56:30,367 - Yeah. That's gotta be her right now. 1332 00:56:30,433 --> 00:56:31,867 [laughs] 1333 00:56:31,933 --> 00:56:33,533 - Class of 1959. - Mm-hmm. 1334 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:34,667 - That's her. - That's her. 1335 00:56:34,733 --> 00:56:36,067 - 100%. 1336 00:56:36,067 --> 00:56:37,767 - I would say 100%. 1337 00:56:37,833 --> 00:56:40,100 - I had to admit that even at 76, 1338 00:56:40,167 --> 00:56:42,200 she was stunning 1339 00:56:42,267 --> 00:56:45,433 and surprisingly similar to Cornelius' age progression. 1340 00:56:45,500 --> 00:56:49,067 - I can't believe they got this up. 1341 00:56:49,067 --> 00:56:51,133 [laughs] 1342 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:52,700 - Look at you. 1343 00:56:52,767 --> 00:56:54,067 You look like a schoolboy again. 1344 00:56:54,133 --> 00:56:55,800 - [laughs] 1345 00:56:55,867 --> 00:56:57,767 Golly. 1346 00:56:57,833 --> 00:56:58,900 Whoo! 1347 00:56:58,967 --> 00:57:00,667 - But then we found something 1348 00:57:00,733 --> 00:57:01,967 that put a damper on Bill's excitement. 1349 00:57:02,067 --> 00:57:04,067 That's her husband. 1350 00:57:04,133 --> 00:57:06,667 - Shoot. 1351 00:57:06,733 --> 00:57:09,067 [sighs] 1352 00:57:09,133 --> 00:57:11,533 [dramatic music] 1353 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,467 Let's see what he looks like, though. 1354 00:57:14,533 --> 00:57:16,800 - We had always known this was a possibility, 1355 00:57:16,867 --> 00:57:18,733 but it seemed to bring out a side of Bill 1356 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,667 that I had never seen before. 1357 00:57:20,733 --> 00:57:23,800 - She could have done better than that. 1358 00:57:23,867 --> 00:57:27,600 He's not Mr. Good Looking, I don't think. 1359 00:57:27,667 --> 00:57:29,867 - Well, that's not very nice to say. 1360 00:57:29,933 --> 00:57:34,067 - I'm sorry, but I didn't mean it that way. 1361 00:57:34,067 --> 00:57:36,500 He looks like he's overweight. 1362 00:57:36,567 --> 00:57:39,600 - Bill became fixated on Frances' husband. 1363 00:57:39,667 --> 00:57:41,600 - He's an attorney. 1364 00:57:41,667 --> 00:57:44,633 BA in English, football, track captain, 1365 00:57:44,700 --> 00:57:45,767 glee club. 1366 00:57:45,833 --> 00:57:48,800 Gee. [laughs] 1367 00:57:48,867 --> 00:57:51,833 I should have married her. 1368 00:57:51,900 --> 00:57:53,933 Should have married her. 1369 00:57:54,067 --> 00:57:56,100 - And he started to get ideas in his head. 1370 00:57:56,167 --> 00:57:58,400 - Well, we go to Michigan. 1371 00:57:58,467 --> 00:57:59,767 - What? - We go there. 1372 00:57:59,833 --> 00:58:02,233 Meet her in person. 1373 00:58:02,300 --> 00:58:05,900 Rehash what should have been. 1374 00:58:05,967 --> 00:58:08,933 - But she's married now. 1375 00:58:09,067 --> 00:58:12,067 - She could get a divorce and marry me. 1376 00:58:12,067 --> 00:58:15,733 * * 1377 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,800 - Okay. 1378 00:58:17,867 --> 00:58:20,467 * * 1379 00:58:20,533 --> 00:58:21,733 [exhales sharply] 1380 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,567 [laughter] 1381 00:58:23,633 --> 00:58:26,367 Oh, all right. 1382 00:58:26,433 --> 00:58:28,067 * * 1383 00:58:28,133 --> 00:58:30,233 - She loved me to her grave. 1384 00:58:30,300 --> 00:58:32,133 She said it, 1385 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,933 and that old saying, it's never too late. 1386 00:58:36,067 --> 00:58:37,867 - I didn't really know what to make 1387 00:58:37,933 --> 00:58:39,833 of what Bill was telling me. 1388 00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:43,467 He seemed undeterred by the fact that Frances had a husband 1389 00:58:43,533 --> 00:58:45,567 and just kept repeating the promise she had made to him 1390 00:58:45,633 --> 00:58:47,667 nearly 60 years ago. 1391 00:58:47,733 --> 00:58:50,667 - That's pretty strong words, I'll love you to my grave. 1392 00:58:50,733 --> 00:58:53,200 Well, she said she would love me to her grave. 1393 00:58:53,267 --> 00:58:55,567 Isn't that pretty strong love? 1394 00:58:55,633 --> 00:58:59,833 Remember, she said she'd love me to her grave. 1395 00:58:59,900 --> 00:59:02,300 - And for the first time since agreeing to help Bill, 1396 00:59:02,367 --> 00:59:05,067 I didn't know what to do. 1397 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:09,800 - Bill was dead set on going to Michigan 1398 00:59:09,867 --> 00:59:11,833 to profess his love to Frances. 1399 00:59:11,900 --> 00:59:13,833 I knew he felt strongly about her, 1400 00:59:13,900 --> 00:59:15,833 but I hadn't considered the possibility 1401 00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:18,400 that Bill would try to get her to divorce her husband. 1402 00:59:18,467 --> 00:59:21,633 Do you think there's a chance she'd do that? 1403 00:59:21,700 --> 00:59:23,067 - There's a chance. 1404 00:59:23,067 --> 00:59:26,067 It's the roll of the dice. 1405 00:59:26,133 --> 00:59:28,167 7 come 11. 1406 00:59:28,233 --> 00:59:30,767 - My gut was telling me that this was a bad idea 1407 00:59:30,833 --> 00:59:33,467 and that Bill's chances of succeeding were slim. 1408 00:59:33,533 --> 00:59:35,067 But who knows? 1409 00:59:35,133 --> 00:59:37,400 Frances' love for Bill in those letters 1410 00:59:37,467 --> 00:59:39,133 seemed so deep. 1411 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:40,667 Maybe after all these years 1412 00:59:40,733 --> 00:59:43,267 she felt the same regret he did. 1413 00:59:43,333 --> 00:59:45,733 Regardless, if Bill really wanted to surprise Frances 1414 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,100 at her front door, 1415 00:59:47,167 --> 00:59:49,100 I felt obligated to make sure 1416 00:59:49,167 --> 00:59:51,267 he was putting his best foot forward. 1417 00:59:51,333 --> 00:59:53,833 So I found a professional actress online 1418 00:59:53,900 --> 00:59:57,167 who closely resembled Frances' look and age 1419 00:59:57,233 --> 00:59:59,100 to be Bill's rehearsal partner. 1420 00:59:59,167 --> 01:00:01,200 I then arranged with a local theater company 1421 01:00:01,267 --> 01:00:02,533 who is currently staging a production 1422 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,400 of "Young Frankenstein" 1423 01:00:04,467 --> 01:00:06,633 to let us use their venue as a practice space 1424 01:00:06,700 --> 01:00:08,333 during one of their days off, 1425 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,100 and using some furniture we found backstage, 1426 01:00:11,167 --> 01:00:14,633 we created a makeshift set to play as Frances' home. 1427 01:00:14,700 --> 01:00:18,100 Bye the time June, our actress, arrived from Los Angeles, 1428 01:00:18,167 --> 01:00:20,400 she had studied up on Frances' letters, 1429 01:00:20,467 --> 01:00:22,800 which I had given her so she'd have a better sense 1430 01:00:22,867 --> 01:00:24,400 of the woman she'd be portraying. 1431 01:00:24,467 --> 01:00:28,133 - He disappointed her and-- and hurt her. 1432 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,767 - And before long, it was time for her to meet the man 1433 01:00:30,833 --> 01:00:32,733 she had read so much about. 1434 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,467 - Oh, hi, Bill. 1435 01:00:34,533 --> 01:00:36,467 - June is the actress that will be playing Frances. 1436 01:00:36,533 --> 01:00:38,333 - Pleasure meeting you. - Pleasure. 1437 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,333 - What do you think? Is the look pretty accurate? 1438 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:42,533 - Yes. - Yeah? 1439 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:43,867 - Not bad. 1440 01:00:43,933 --> 01:00:45,067 - [laughs] 1441 01:00:45,133 --> 01:00:46,733 - Not bad. - Okay. 1442 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,133 - Of course, it's not-- - You've got nice teeth. 1443 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:49,833 - Thank you. - You've got nice teeth. 1444 01:00:49,900 --> 01:00:51,400 - It's so long since you've seen her, right? 1445 01:00:51,467 --> 01:00:53,767 - Ooh, look at her teeth. Look at 'em. 1446 01:00:53,833 --> 01:00:55,467 You've got 'em all. They're yours. 1447 01:00:55,533 --> 01:00:56,800 - Yes, they're mine. - Nothing fake. 1448 01:00:56,867 --> 01:00:59,600 - They're mine. They're all mine. 1449 01:00:59,667 --> 01:01:01,933 - Right away, I began to see the side of Bill 1450 01:01:02,067 --> 01:01:04,933 that Frances had alluded to in her letters 1451 01:01:05,067 --> 01:01:07,067 and I knew we had a lot of work ahead of us. 1452 01:01:07,067 --> 01:01:09,267 For our initial run-through, 1453 01:01:09,333 --> 01:01:11,900 I asked Bill to show me what he was thinking of doing 1454 01:01:11,967 --> 01:01:14,067 when he arrived at Frances' home, 1455 01:01:14,100 --> 01:01:16,567 and then we would adjust from there if necessary. 1456 01:01:16,633 --> 01:01:19,200 All right, so, Bill, you're arriving at Frances' door. 1457 01:01:19,267 --> 01:01:21,233 This is the first time you've seen her in 50 years. 1458 01:01:21,300 --> 01:01:22,400 Okay, ready? 1459 01:01:22,467 --> 01:01:24,333 And action. 1460 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,433 [knock on door] 1461 01:01:31,433 --> 01:01:34,067 - Frances, God, I can't believe it's you! 1462 01:01:34,100 --> 01:01:36,233 - Bill, oh, my God! 1463 01:01:36,300 --> 01:01:38,533 It's been so long. 1464 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,400 Is it really you? 1465 01:01:40,467 --> 01:01:42,567 - Man. 1466 01:01:42,633 --> 01:01:44,667 - Oh. Oh, my goodness. 1467 01:01:44,733 --> 01:01:47,400 - I can't believe it's you. 1468 01:01:47,467 --> 01:01:49,167 [cries] 1469 01:01:49,233 --> 01:01:50,567 All these years. 1470 01:01:50,633 --> 01:01:52,400 - I know, I know, I know. Sit. 1471 01:01:52,467 --> 01:01:54,900 - We should have married. Why didn't you marry me? 1472 01:01:54,967 --> 01:01:58,500 - So, Bill, tell me all about yourself. 1473 01:01:58,567 --> 01:02:00,433 Now, easy on. It's been 47 years now. 1474 01:02:00,500 --> 01:02:03,400 I'm a married woman, so just take it easy. 1475 01:02:03,467 --> 01:02:05,433 Just take it slow. 1476 01:02:05,500 --> 01:02:07,333 I just want-- Now-- 1477 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,433 - Okay, pause. 1478 01:02:09,500 --> 01:02:13,567 Bill, can I ask you why you rubbed her leg like that? 1479 01:02:13,633 --> 01:02:15,600 - Where? Her leg? 1480 01:02:15,667 --> 01:02:19,533 - Yeah. 1481 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,567 - I don't know. It's just-- 1482 01:02:21,633 --> 01:02:24,067 - June, as Frances, how do you think she would feel 1483 01:02:24,133 --> 01:02:25,333 if he touched her? 1484 01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,567 - Uncomfortable. 1485 01:02:27,633 --> 01:02:29,567 - The first run-through was troubling. 1486 01:02:29,633 --> 01:02:32,133 Bill's initial attempts to win over Frances 1487 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,933 came across as either creepy... 1488 01:02:34,067 --> 01:02:35,133 - Is your husband a jealous man? 1489 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:36,733 - or desperate. 1490 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,100 - But I'm asking you again to marry me, please. 1491 01:02:40,167 --> 01:02:42,633 - He just couldn't engage with Frances 1492 01:02:42,700 --> 01:02:44,333 like a normal human being. 1493 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:45,933 - Surprise! 1494 01:02:46,067 --> 01:02:47,900 - And bringing in our "Mud 2" actor 1495 01:02:47,967 --> 01:02:51,100 to play her husband only seemed to make things worse. 1496 01:02:51,167 --> 01:02:53,267 - I'm here to marry... 1497 01:02:53,333 --> 01:02:54,767 - My wife. - your wife. 1498 01:02:54,833 --> 01:02:55,800 Do you understand... - But she's my wife. 1499 01:02:55,867 --> 01:02:57,433 - English? 1500 01:02:57,500 --> 01:02:59,300 - He was just unable to see the situation 1501 01:02:59,367 --> 01:03:01,300 from Frances' perspective. 1502 01:03:01,367 --> 01:03:04,067 And worst of all, our Frances stand-in 1503 01:03:04,067 --> 01:03:05,200 was not convinced. 1504 01:03:05,267 --> 01:03:08,200 - You should be a little bit more... 1505 01:03:08,267 --> 01:03:10,167 understanding, 1506 01:03:10,233 --> 01:03:13,267 'cause if you push that on her too fast-- 1507 01:03:13,333 --> 01:03:14,833 - Yeah, that could be bad. - You know what I mean? 1508 01:03:14,900 --> 01:03:16,967 You know, be more like a gentleman. 1509 01:03:17,067 --> 01:03:18,367 - So to help Bill better understand 1510 01:03:18,433 --> 01:03:20,133 what Frances might be feeling, 1511 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:23,133 we decided to do a role-reversal exercise 1512 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,500 using a wig I picked up from a store down the block. 1513 01:03:25,567 --> 01:03:27,933 - You don't know how I've cried myself to sleep 1514 01:03:28,067 --> 01:03:30,067 thinking of you. 1515 01:03:30,133 --> 01:03:32,400 Losing sleep for hours. 1516 01:03:32,467 --> 01:03:34,633 - I'm sorry, Frances. 1517 01:03:34,700 --> 01:03:37,167 - Well, it's like when a person kills somebody, 1518 01:03:37,233 --> 01:03:39,733 they're sorry, but that doesn't bring 'em back to life. 1519 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,933 - After embodying Frances for nearly an hour, 1520 01:03:43,067 --> 01:03:45,267 it seemed to give Bill some new perspective. 1521 01:03:45,333 --> 01:03:48,067 - Never heard from you, write you letters, 1522 01:03:48,067 --> 01:03:50,167 call you on the phone, 1523 01:03:50,233 --> 01:03:52,633 ignore the calls. 1524 01:03:52,700 --> 01:03:54,633 All you wanted was the career, 1525 01:03:54,700 --> 01:03:56,667 the career in Hollywood. 1526 01:03:56,733 --> 01:04:00,367 You were just doing it for yourself. 1527 01:04:00,433 --> 01:04:03,067 Self-centered. 1528 01:04:03,067 --> 01:04:05,667 - And once he switched back to himself again, 1529 01:04:05,733 --> 01:04:08,367 a softer side of Bill seemed to emerge. 1530 01:04:08,433 --> 01:04:12,067 - I cheated on you. 1531 01:04:12,100 --> 01:04:15,433 I kept you misleading that we were gonna marry. 1532 01:04:15,500 --> 01:04:18,433 I didn't answer your letters. 1533 01:04:18,500 --> 01:04:21,067 I've been living with regret 1534 01:04:21,133 --> 01:04:24,100 how I've-- it was really hard. 1535 01:04:24,167 --> 01:04:26,700 I know you have a happy family, 1536 01:04:26,767 --> 01:04:28,567 a nice home, 1537 01:04:28,633 --> 01:04:31,600 and happily married, 1538 01:04:31,667 --> 01:04:33,600 but I would be lying 1539 01:04:33,667 --> 01:04:36,467 if I said I didn't have feelings for you, 1540 01:04:36,533 --> 01:04:38,667 because I do. 1541 01:04:38,733 --> 01:04:41,467 I just want you to know, Frances, 1542 01:04:41,533 --> 01:04:44,700 that I really love you so much. 1543 01:04:46,500 --> 01:04:48,067 - By then end of rehearsal, 1544 01:04:48,133 --> 01:04:50,567 I felt like Bill had made huge strides. 1545 01:04:50,633 --> 01:04:52,333 [dramatic music] 1546 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,867 [applause] 1547 01:04:54,933 --> 01:04:57,067 And even June was feeling optimistic 1548 01:04:57,100 --> 01:04:59,433 about his chances of winning over Frances. 1549 01:04:59,500 --> 01:05:01,433 - I think there's a possibility, 1550 01:05:01,500 --> 01:05:03,333 and of course, there's a stronger possibility 1551 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:07,100 if she's not in a happy marriage. 1552 01:05:07,167 --> 01:05:09,267 But of course, you know, one doesn't know that 1553 01:05:09,333 --> 01:05:12,333 until the actual time comes. 1554 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,200 - It was hard to know exactly how things would play out 1555 01:05:15,267 --> 01:05:16,600 on the day, 1556 01:05:16,667 --> 01:05:18,167 but we'd soon find out 1557 01:05:18,233 --> 01:05:20,067 because it was time to go to Michigan. 1558 01:05:20,067 --> 01:05:21,500 - Love you. - Bye, Shelly. 1559 01:05:21,567 --> 01:05:22,867 Love you. 1560 01:05:22,933 --> 01:05:24,600 - Okay. Well, good luck. 1561 01:05:24,667 --> 01:05:26,067 Let me know how it goes. 1562 01:05:26,067 --> 01:05:27,600 - Thank you. 1563 01:05:27,667 --> 01:05:28,867 I know. 1564 01:05:28,933 --> 01:05:31,333 - [laughs] 1565 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,600 Oh. Are you okay? 1566 01:05:33,667 --> 01:05:34,733 - Yeah. 1567 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,500 - Are you sure? 1568 01:05:37,567 --> 01:05:40,933 - [sniffs] 1569 01:05:41,067 --> 01:05:42,167 - You gonna be okay? 1570 01:05:42,233 --> 01:05:43,333 - It's gonna be okay. 1571 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,633 - It is. It's gonna be okay. 1572 01:05:45,700 --> 01:05:47,167 So you never know. 1573 01:05:47,233 --> 01:05:49,067 You never know what you'll find up there. 1574 01:05:49,133 --> 01:05:50,600 - That's right. 1575 01:05:50,667 --> 01:05:52,300 - So [indistinct]. 1576 01:05:52,367 --> 01:05:53,433 - [sniffs] 1577 01:05:53,500 --> 01:06:00,733 * * 1578 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,533 - We headed to the airport and boarded our flight 1579 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,800 for the 950-mile trip north 1580 01:06:05,867 --> 01:06:09,333 to Traverse City, Michigan. 1581 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,133 By the time we arrived, it was getting late, 1582 01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,233 so we decided to head to the hotel and call it a night 1583 01:06:15,300 --> 01:06:17,067 with a plan to go to Frances' house 1584 01:06:17,100 --> 01:06:19,733 first thing in the morning. 1585 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,200 - And that's why I'm introducing 1586 01:06:21,267 --> 01:06:23,067 comprehensive immigration reform 1587 01:06:23,133 --> 01:06:25,600 within the first 100 days with a path to citizenship. 1588 01:06:25,667 --> 01:06:27,833 - Thank you, Secretary Clinton. 1589 01:06:27,900 --> 01:06:29,067 I wanted to follow up-- 1590 01:06:29,133 --> 01:06:30,900 - Look at the-- 1591 01:06:30,967 --> 01:06:32,900 - Yeah? 1592 01:06:32,967 --> 01:06:34,833 - [chuckles] 1593 01:06:34,900 --> 01:06:37,500 He's--he's the man for the presidency, 1594 01:06:37,567 --> 01:06:38,867 I'm telling you. 1595 01:06:38,933 --> 01:06:42,500 I've told you that before. 1596 01:06:42,567 --> 01:06:45,133 Donald H. Trump, 1597 01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,567 I believe is his middle initial, isn't it? 1598 01:06:48,633 --> 01:06:50,167 - I think it's J. 1599 01:06:50,233 --> 01:06:51,733 - Huh? 1600 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:53,800 - Why are you telling me this? 1601 01:06:53,867 --> 01:06:55,267 - Well, I'm trying to convince you 1602 01:06:55,333 --> 01:06:56,867 that Trump is the man. 1603 01:06:56,933 --> 01:07:00,467 You seem to think he's not gonna win. 1604 01:07:00,533 --> 01:07:02,733 - Well, he's losing in the polls. 1605 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,733 - You can't go by the polls. 1606 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,933 - What can you go by? 1607 01:07:08,067 --> 01:07:09,400 - I'd like to hear from--I'd like to hear from Secretary-- 1608 01:07:09,467 --> 01:07:11,100 - Election day. 1609 01:07:11,167 --> 01:07:13,433 - I voted for border security and there are-- 1610 01:07:13,500 --> 01:07:15,333 [dramatic music] 1611 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,467 - The next morning as Bill got ready, 1612 01:07:17,533 --> 01:07:20,767 I copied down Frances' address and phone number 1613 01:07:20,833 --> 01:07:22,600 from the online Whitepages. 1614 01:07:22,667 --> 01:07:24,733 * * 1615 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,233 Bill didn't say a word to me that entire morning. 1616 01:07:27,300 --> 01:07:29,733 I could tell there was a lot on his mind. 1617 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,233 * * 1618 01:07:32,300 --> 01:07:33,867 It's funny how the more comfortable you get 1619 01:07:33,933 --> 01:07:35,733 with someone, 1620 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,533 the less you feel the need to fill the silence with talk. 1621 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:45,633 * * 1622 01:07:58,933 --> 01:08:01,933 What are you thinking? 1623 01:08:02,067 --> 01:08:04,067 - Well, I'm just thinking. 1624 01:08:04,067 --> 01:08:11,100 * * 1625 01:08:12,133 --> 01:08:13,267 - Bill? 1626 01:08:13,333 --> 01:08:15,067 - Mm-hmm. 1627 01:08:15,067 --> 01:08:16,933 - What are you thinking about? 1628 01:08:17,067 --> 01:08:20,333 - Oh, I'm just-- 1629 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:27,800 * * 1630 01:08:57,833 --> 01:08:59,333 - Frances' address 1631 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,067 took us to a small, wooded neighborhood 1632 01:09:01,133 --> 01:09:02,433 off of Lake Michigan. 1633 01:09:02,500 --> 01:09:04,200 - [exhales sharply] 1634 01:09:04,267 --> 01:09:05,833 - The plan was for Bill to go to the door 1635 01:09:05,900 --> 01:09:08,067 by himself at first while we hung back 1636 01:09:08,133 --> 01:09:10,300 so she wouldn't be startled by the cameras. 1637 01:09:10,367 --> 01:09:13,400 This is it. 1638 01:09:17,567 --> 01:09:19,100 It's right down there. 1639 01:09:19,167 --> 01:09:22,200 - Oh. Okay. 1640 01:09:27,433 --> 01:09:30,200 [chuckles] 1641 01:09:30,267 --> 01:09:31,833 It's right down there. 1642 01:09:31,900 --> 01:09:33,233 - Yeah. 1643 01:09:33,300 --> 01:09:36,300 - [laughs] 1644 01:09:36,367 --> 01:09:38,967 Oh, Lord. God have mercy. 1645 01:09:39,067 --> 01:09:41,333 [laughs] 1646 01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,500 - [laughs] 1647 01:09:43,567 --> 01:09:45,533 But when it came time to get out, 1648 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,533 Bill didn't want to go down without us. 1649 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,433 - Well, I thought wouldn't you want it that way 1650 01:09:49,500 --> 01:09:51,633 with the cameras? 1651 01:09:51,700 --> 01:09:54,833 - Well, it seems like a personal moment for you. 1652 01:09:54,900 --> 01:09:56,500 - Oh, bring the cameras. 1653 01:09:56,567 --> 01:09:59,600 I like all the PR. 1654 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:03,767 [laughs] 1655 01:10:03,833 --> 01:10:05,833 You heard it, the PR. 1656 01:10:05,900 --> 01:10:07,667 - What do you mean? 1657 01:10:07,733 --> 01:10:11,100 - Public relations, PR. 1658 01:10:11,167 --> 01:10:13,700 - And it concerned me that Bill didn't realize 1659 01:10:13,767 --> 01:10:16,167 how showing up at her front door with a camera crew 1660 01:10:16,233 --> 01:10:17,900 might freak her out. 1661 01:10:17,967 --> 01:10:20,067 What do you think it'll be like for her? 1662 01:10:20,133 --> 01:10:22,233 - I--she wouldn't mind it. 1663 01:10:22,300 --> 01:10:24,067 - The cameras? 1664 01:10:24,133 --> 01:10:25,900 - Right. 1665 01:10:25,967 --> 01:10:27,867 - If he really wanted to go down there with the crew, 1666 01:10:27,933 --> 01:10:30,567 I suggested that he call her first. 1667 01:10:30,633 --> 01:10:33,633 - We could. You have her number? 1668 01:10:33,700 --> 01:10:36,167 - So I moved our car out of sight around the corner 1669 01:10:36,233 --> 01:10:39,200 and dialed Frances' number into Bill's phone 1670 01:10:39,267 --> 01:10:42,967 so he could make the call. 1671 01:10:43,033 --> 01:10:44,000 You ready? 1672 01:10:44,067 --> 01:10:47,100 - Ready. 1673 01:10:52,367 --> 01:10:55,400 [telephone rings] 1674 01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,667 - Hello? 1675 01:10:58,733 --> 01:11:00,500 - Hello, Frances? 1676 01:11:00,567 --> 01:11:01,600 - Yes. 1677 01:11:01,667 --> 01:11:02,733 - How are you? 1678 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,167 - Fine. Who's calling? 1679 01:11:04,233 --> 01:11:06,700 - Well, I want you to guess. 1680 01:11:06,767 --> 01:11:08,367 - Oh, I can't. [laughs] 1681 01:11:08,433 --> 01:11:10,967 I don't know. 1682 01:11:11,067 --> 01:11:12,633 - Well, you think hard. 1683 01:11:12,700 --> 01:11:15,733 Doesn't my voice sound familiar to you? 1684 01:11:17,533 --> 01:11:19,400 - No. 1685 01:11:19,467 --> 01:11:20,933 - No? 1686 01:11:21,067 --> 01:11:22,600 - No. 1687 01:11:22,667 --> 01:11:25,700 - It's been a long time, Frances. 1688 01:11:28,067 --> 01:11:29,833 - Yeah, you've got me wondering now. 1689 01:11:29,900 --> 01:11:33,267 Who is this? 1690 01:11:33,333 --> 01:11:34,633 Hello? 1691 01:11:34,700 --> 01:11:35,900 - Yeah, I'm here. 1692 01:11:35,967 --> 01:11:38,133 - Okay. 1693 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:39,133 - Uh... 1694 01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:40,233 - Tell her. 1695 01:11:40,300 --> 01:11:42,267 - You don't know who I am? 1696 01:11:42,333 --> 01:11:44,100 Think hard. 1697 01:11:44,167 --> 01:11:47,467 I don't sound familiar to you? 1698 01:11:47,533 --> 01:11:49,733 - No. 1699 01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,700 Oh, wait a minute. 1700 01:11:51,767 --> 01:11:53,600 Is this Jim Beckley? 1701 01:11:53,667 --> 01:11:55,100 - Who? 1702 01:11:55,167 --> 01:11:56,367 - Beckley? 1703 01:11:56,433 --> 01:11:57,500 - No. 1704 01:11:57,567 --> 01:11:59,600 - No? 1705 01:11:59,667 --> 01:12:02,333 Oh. 1706 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:03,433 - Tell her who you are. 1707 01:12:03,500 --> 01:12:04,900 - Yeah. 1708 01:12:04,967 --> 01:12:08,467 All right, I'm gonna tell you who I am. 1709 01:12:08,533 --> 01:12:09,567 - Okay. 1710 01:12:09,633 --> 01:12:12,667 - Bill Heath. 1711 01:12:14,500 --> 01:12:16,100 Hello? 1712 01:12:16,167 --> 01:12:17,433 - Hello. 1713 01:12:17,500 --> 01:12:19,500 - Bill Heath. 1714 01:12:19,567 --> 01:12:21,300 - Bill Heath? 1715 01:12:21,367 --> 01:12:24,800 - H-E-A-T-H. 1716 01:12:24,867 --> 01:12:26,800 - Okay. Hi, Bill, how are you? 1717 01:12:26,867 --> 01:12:29,100 - You remember me now, don't you? 1718 01:12:29,167 --> 01:12:31,367 - Yes, I do. Of course I do. 1719 01:12:31,433 --> 01:12:33,667 Well, what are you up to? 1720 01:12:33,733 --> 01:12:35,900 - Oh, trying to do right. 1721 01:12:35,967 --> 01:12:37,667 - [laughs] 1722 01:12:37,733 --> 01:12:39,867 Okay, is that hard? 1723 01:12:39,933 --> 01:12:43,133 - So--but I, you know, I've been thinking about you 1724 01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,900 a lot of the times and I said finally, 1725 01:12:46,967 --> 01:12:49,467 you know, I'm just gonna call you 1726 01:12:49,533 --> 01:12:51,467 and-- - Okay. 1727 01:12:51,533 --> 01:12:53,167 - So-- 1728 01:12:53,233 --> 01:12:55,100 - So what's going on in your life? 1729 01:12:55,167 --> 01:12:56,733 - I'm out in LA now, 1730 01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,533 still working as an actor out there. 1731 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,300 - Well, good for you. 1732 01:13:02,367 --> 01:13:04,233 Good for you. - So-- 1733 01:13:04,300 --> 01:13:06,367 - That's what you always wanted to do. 1734 01:13:06,433 --> 01:13:07,933 - Right. 1735 01:13:08,067 --> 01:13:09,767 - Do you have any children? 1736 01:13:09,833 --> 01:13:12,367 - No, I-- 1737 01:13:12,433 --> 01:13:14,733 I should have married you maybe. 1738 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,767 You know-- you know how it is. 1739 01:13:16,833 --> 01:13:18,700 - [laughs] 1740 01:13:18,767 --> 01:13:21,800 Well, I have nine grandchildren. 1741 01:13:21,867 --> 01:13:23,200 - Really? 1742 01:13:23,267 --> 01:13:25,267 - Yes. - So-- 1743 01:13:25,333 --> 01:13:29,567 - No, I'm a--I'm a grandmother with nine grandchildren, 1744 01:13:29,633 --> 01:13:33,367 and we have twin granddaughters 1745 01:13:33,433 --> 01:13:37,067 that are almost three years old. 1746 01:13:37,067 --> 01:13:39,600 - As the call went on, 15 minutes in, 1747 01:13:39,667 --> 01:13:41,533 Bill still hadn't mentioned to Frances 1748 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,067 that he was right outside of her house. 1749 01:13:44,100 --> 01:13:46,633 - What do you remember most about my mother? 1750 01:13:46,700 --> 01:13:49,167 - What do I remember most about your mother? 1751 01:13:49,233 --> 01:13:50,567 She didn't like me. 1752 01:13:50,633 --> 01:13:52,867 - Oh! What? 1753 01:13:52,933 --> 01:13:54,067 - She didn't. 1754 01:13:54,067 --> 01:13:56,100 - Why do you say that? 1755 01:13:56,167 --> 01:13:58,300 - Well, it's true. 1756 01:13:58,367 --> 01:13:59,700 - What makes you say that? 1757 01:13:59,767 --> 01:14:01,467 - Why would she say it? 1758 01:14:01,533 --> 01:14:04,567 I don't know, but she--she didn't. 1759 01:14:06,233 --> 01:14:09,267 - Well, are you happy? 1760 01:14:09,333 --> 01:14:12,567 - Am I happy? Yes, I'm happy. 1761 01:14:12,633 --> 01:14:14,367 Why? 1762 01:14:14,433 --> 01:14:16,833 - You're on your second marriage, right? 1763 01:14:16,900 --> 01:14:20,067 - Mm-hmm. 1764 01:14:20,067 --> 01:14:22,833 - Good grief. Doesn't seem possible. 1765 01:14:22,900 --> 01:14:25,067 How many years has it been? 1766 01:14:25,067 --> 01:14:26,567 - Well, let's see. 1767 01:14:26,633 --> 01:14:29,233 Dave and I have been married for almost 47-- 1768 01:14:29,300 --> 01:14:32,600 oh, we have been married 47 years. 1769 01:14:32,667 --> 01:14:36,433 - Mm. 1770 01:14:36,500 --> 01:14:38,567 Well, the years go by. 1771 01:14:38,633 --> 01:14:40,600 - Yeah, they do go by. 1772 01:14:40,667 --> 01:14:42,933 - The snap of a finger, they go by. 1773 01:14:43,067 --> 01:14:44,800 - [laughs] 1774 01:14:44,867 --> 01:14:47,300 - Have you thought about me much through the years? 1775 01:14:47,367 --> 01:14:50,567 - Of course. 1776 01:14:50,633 --> 01:14:54,267 - Do you ever want to pick up the phone and call me? 1777 01:14:54,333 --> 01:14:56,767 - Of course. 1778 01:14:56,833 --> 01:14:59,867 - But you never did. 1779 01:15:01,700 --> 01:15:05,200 Was it hard? 1780 01:15:05,267 --> 01:15:06,700 Hello? 1781 01:15:06,767 --> 01:15:08,233 - Hello. 1782 01:15:08,300 --> 01:15:11,333 - Was it hard to do that? 1783 01:15:15,133 --> 01:15:16,533 Can you hear me, Frances? 1784 01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,633 - Yes, I can-- Yes, I can hear you. 1785 01:15:21,100 --> 01:15:23,867 - Well-- 1786 01:15:23,933 --> 01:15:25,867 well, I just-- 1787 01:15:25,933 --> 01:15:27,667 you've been on my mind so much, 1788 01:15:27,733 --> 01:15:30,067 and I just had to call you... 1789 01:15:30,067 --> 01:15:31,633 - Well, thank you. 1790 01:15:31,700 --> 01:15:33,833 - you know, just to hear your voice. 1791 01:15:33,900 --> 01:15:37,233 My life is-- 1792 01:15:37,300 --> 01:15:41,133 it's cheered me up so. 1793 01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,400 - Well, good for you. Are you all right? 1794 01:15:43,467 --> 01:15:45,367 - Am I all right? 1795 01:15:45,433 --> 01:15:47,367 - Mm-hmm. Your health-wise? 1796 01:15:47,433 --> 01:15:49,200 - Yes. 1797 01:15:49,267 --> 01:15:51,333 Knock on the wood. 1798 01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,900 - [laughs] 1799 01:15:53,967 --> 01:15:56,067 Well, listen, you take care of yourself. 1800 01:15:56,067 --> 01:15:57,767 It's nice to hear from you 1801 01:15:57,833 --> 01:16:00,067 and... 1802 01:16:00,067 --> 01:16:02,133 may God bless you. 1803 01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,367 - And what was that again? 1804 01:16:04,433 --> 01:16:06,367 - I said, and may God bless you. 1805 01:16:06,433 --> 01:16:08,200 - Oh, thank you. The same to you. 1806 01:16:08,267 --> 01:16:09,700 - Thank you, Bill. 1807 01:16:09,767 --> 01:16:11,233 - Bye-bye. God bless. 1808 01:16:11,300 --> 01:16:14,967 - Good-bye. 1809 01:16:15,067 --> 01:16:18,133 - All right. 1810 01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:19,500 How do you feel? 1811 01:16:19,567 --> 01:16:21,933 - How do I feel? 1812 01:16:22,067 --> 01:16:23,967 - [laughs] You know, about the conversation. 1813 01:16:24,067 --> 01:16:25,233 - How do you feel? 1814 01:16:25,300 --> 01:16:27,700 - You seemed more nervous than I-- 1815 01:16:27,767 --> 01:16:30,667 I wasn't nervous, was I? I didn't seem nervous. 1816 01:16:43,867 --> 01:16:45,700 - Do you still want to go inside? 1817 01:16:45,767 --> 01:16:47,267 - No, I don't think so. 1818 01:16:47,333 --> 01:16:49,633 I talked to her, that's enough. 1819 01:16:49,700 --> 01:16:53,167 I couldn't marry her. It wouldn't work now. 1820 01:16:56,133 --> 01:16:59,233 - Do you feel like she's over you? 1821 01:17:00,367 --> 01:17:03,133 [somber music] 1822 01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:06,133 - Well, she sounded like it, like it was just memories or-- 1823 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:07,900 * * 1824 01:17:07,967 --> 01:17:10,167 She didn't even recognize my voice. 1825 01:17:10,233 --> 01:17:14,967 * * 1826 01:17:15,067 --> 01:17:15,967 - You okay? 1827 01:17:16,067 --> 01:17:18,267 - Yeah. 1828 01:17:18,333 --> 01:17:20,767 - You want to go home? 1829 01:17:20,833 --> 01:17:23,433 - Yeah. 1830 01:17:23,500 --> 01:17:31,200 * * 1831 01:17:31,267 --> 01:17:33,333 - When we got back to the hotel that night, 1832 01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,133 there was a bee on the loose... 1833 01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:37,900 - Oop! 1834 01:17:37,967 --> 01:17:40,633 - and Bill seemed determined to get it. 1835 01:17:40,700 --> 01:17:47,733 * * 1836 01:17:50,900 --> 01:17:52,667 - [sighs] 1837 01:17:52,733 --> 01:17:54,800 He won't give up. 1838 01:17:54,867 --> 01:17:56,133 [bleep]! 1839 01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:57,300 Excuse me. 1840 01:17:57,367 --> 01:18:04,367 * * 1841 01:18:04,433 --> 01:18:06,333 [toilet flushes] 1842 01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:10,367 All right, down the toilet. 1843 01:18:10,433 --> 01:18:13,467 - Good work. 1844 01:18:16,733 --> 01:18:18,567 - After spending so much time in Arkansas, 1845 01:18:18,633 --> 01:18:20,900 I found myself digging my way out of all the other work 1846 01:18:20,967 --> 01:18:22,567 that had piled up in Los Angeles. 1847 01:18:22,633 --> 01:18:24,433 I was working late hours 1848 01:18:24,500 --> 01:18:27,533 and finding it hard to adjust back to my routine. 1849 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,133 Bill wasn't really on my mind much anymore. 1850 01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,300 I think a part of me wanted to believe 1851 01:18:32,367 --> 01:18:34,133 that he would find a happy ending, 1852 01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,133 and when that didn't happen, 1853 01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:37,933 it was a bit of a bummer. 1854 01:18:38,067 --> 01:18:39,900 Then one day out of the blue, 1855 01:18:39,967 --> 01:18:42,700 Bill asked to come by the office to give me something. 1856 01:18:42,767 --> 01:18:44,233 - I got something for you. 1857 01:18:44,300 --> 01:18:45,400 - Really? 1858 01:18:45,467 --> 01:18:46,667 This is for me? 1859 01:18:46,733 --> 01:18:48,133 - Yes. 1860 01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:50,200 - What is it? 1861 01:18:50,267 --> 01:18:53,233 Wow. Thank you, Bill. 1862 01:18:53,300 --> 01:18:56,100 Is this a serving tray? 1863 01:18:56,167 --> 01:18:58,133 - Yeah, you can put pasta on there, 1864 01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:01,633 salads, anything. 1865 01:19:01,700 --> 01:19:03,433 - Wow. 1866 01:19:03,500 --> 01:19:06,133 - I know the salesman and we picked it out. 1867 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:09,767 We thought that that would be 1868 01:19:09,833 --> 01:19:11,467 appropriate for you. 1869 01:19:11,533 --> 01:19:13,433 - This is really sweet of you to give this to me. 1870 01:19:13,500 --> 01:19:15,267 - Of course. 1871 01:19:15,333 --> 01:19:19,367 That's a small token for what-- what you've done. 1872 01:19:19,433 --> 01:19:21,333 I appreciate everything. 1873 01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,333 - The tray was really nice, but I discovered 1874 01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,333 that Bill wasn't just here to say thanks. 1875 01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:29,300 - What are your thoughts on that actress that came from LA 1876 01:19:29,367 --> 01:19:31,433 to Arkansas? 1877 01:19:31,500 --> 01:19:32,567 - June? 1878 01:19:32,633 --> 01:19:35,367 I thought she was good. 1879 01:19:35,433 --> 01:19:36,933 - Well, just-- [laughs] 1880 01:19:37,067 --> 01:19:38,133 - What do you mean? What did you think of her? 1881 01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,167 - Well, you know. 1882 01:19:40,233 --> 01:19:43,067 She'd be a good contact for me. 1883 01:19:43,067 --> 01:19:44,567 - Why are you smiling, Bill? 1884 01:19:44,633 --> 01:19:46,367 - [laughs] I don't-- 1885 01:19:46,433 --> 01:19:48,167 - Do you have a crush on her, Bill? 1886 01:19:48,233 --> 01:19:50,167 - I didn't say a crush on-- 1887 01:19:50,233 --> 01:19:51,733 - Do you have a crush on June? 1888 01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:53,633 - I worked with her one time. [laughs] 1889 01:19:53,700 --> 01:19:55,733 - Why are you laughing? Look at you, Bill. 1890 01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:56,733 You're blushing. 1891 01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:58,333 Oh, my God. 1892 01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,000 - I don't know what her phone number is so. 1893 01:20:01,067 --> 01:20:02,867 - You want to call her right now? 1894 01:20:02,933 --> 01:20:04,733 - Yeah. 1895 01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:08,000 [telephone rings] 1896 01:20:08,067 --> 01:20:10,833 [ring] 1897 01:20:10,900 --> 01:20:12,667 - Hello. 1898 01:20:12,733 --> 01:20:14,067 - June? 1899 01:20:14,133 --> 01:20:15,167 - Yes. 1900 01:20:15,233 --> 01:20:16,667 - How are you? 1901 01:20:16,733 --> 01:20:18,433 - I'm good. How are you? 1902 01:20:18,500 --> 01:20:21,533 - Do you know who you're speaking with? 1903 01:20:24,267 --> 01:20:27,267 - Is this Bill? 1904 01:20:27,333 --> 01:20:30,333 - [laughs] 1905 01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,600 Yeah, that's-- this is Bill. 1906 01:20:32,667 --> 01:20:34,633 - It's easy to look at someone else's life 1907 01:20:34,700 --> 01:20:37,100 as a cautionary tale. 1908 01:20:37,167 --> 01:20:40,800 After all, no one wants to be old and filled with regret. 1909 01:20:40,867 --> 01:20:41,933 - Good grief. 1910 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,367 - Oh, my goodness. 1911 01:20:43,433 --> 01:20:44,800 Oh, how sharp you look. 1912 01:20:44,867 --> 01:20:46,733 - Well, you look-- - Oh. 1913 01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,933 - Boy, you know, I'm gonna compliment your teeth again. 1914 01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:50,367 They're gorgeous. 1915 01:20:50,433 --> 01:20:52,000 - [laughs] 1916 01:20:52,067 --> 01:20:53,300 - Let's toast to your teeth. 1917 01:20:53,367 --> 01:20:54,500 - All right. 1918 01:20:54,567 --> 01:20:55,967 My mother always told me, she said, 1919 01:20:56,033 --> 01:20:58,333 "You get to that dentist every six months, June." 1920 01:20:58,400 --> 01:20:59,800 I said, "All right, Mom." 1921 01:20:59,867 --> 01:21:01,700 - But if you look closer and see that 1922 01:21:01,767 --> 01:21:04,867 that life is filled with moments of sincere joy, 1923 01:21:04,933 --> 01:21:06,900 however fleeting, 1924 01:21:06,967 --> 01:21:10,133 it's hard to say if it was really a bad life after all. 1925 01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,333 Anyways, I wanted to let you know 1926 01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,333 that I booked my ticket yesterday. 1927 01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,733 I'm really excited to see you. 1928 01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:20,200 Yours, Nathan. 1929 01:21:20,267 --> 01:21:23,200 [dramatic music] 1930 01:21:23,267 --> 01:21:28,267 * * 1931 01:21:28,333 --> 01:21:29,400 - Hey. 1932 01:21:29,467 --> 01:21:32,367 - Hey. 1933 01:21:32,433 --> 01:21:33,467 Good to see you. 1934 01:21:33,533 --> 01:21:34,933 - Good to see you. 1935 01:21:35,067 --> 01:21:36,067 - You want to hop-- - Can we sit up here? 1936 01:21:36,100 --> 01:21:37,700 - Sure, yeah. 1937 01:21:37,767 --> 01:21:40,533 It's good to see you again. 1938 01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,267 - [laughs] It's good to see you again. 1939 01:21:43,333 --> 01:21:45,400 It's an interesting little place. 1940 01:21:45,467 --> 01:21:48,733 - On the map it was blue, 1941 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,600 so I thought it would be a nice river, but-- 1942 01:21:51,667 --> 01:21:54,667 - Yeah, I thought we were gonna drive trucks. 1943 01:21:54,733 --> 01:21:56,333 - Yeah. 1944 01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,800 [laughter] 1945 01:22:07,133 --> 01:22:08,800 - You good with that? 1946 01:22:08,867 --> 01:22:09,933 - Mm-hmm. 1947 01:22:10,067 --> 01:22:11,433 - You and your super cold hands. 1948 01:22:11,500 --> 01:22:13,067 - Thanks for warming them up. 1949 01:22:13,067 --> 01:22:16,167 - No problem. [giggles] 1950 01:22:19,067 --> 01:22:21,533 It's kind of weird having cameras around, right? 1951 01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,633 - We can turn them off if you want. 1952 01:22:24,700 --> 01:22:26,267 - [laughs] 1953 01:22:26,333 --> 01:22:27,800 Could we? 1954 01:22:27,867 --> 01:22:28,800 - Do you want to? 1955 01:22:28,867 --> 01:22:30,533 - [laughs] 1956 01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,467 I feel like that--does that defeat the purpose maybe? 1957 01:22:32,533 --> 01:22:33,567 - Of what? 1958 01:22:33,633 --> 01:22:35,400 - I don't know. 1959 01:22:35,467 --> 01:22:37,400 - What's the purpose? 1960 01:22:37,467 --> 01:22:40,633 - You're filming something. 1961 01:22:40,700 --> 01:22:44,067 It's kind of the purpose, right? 1962 01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,133 [The Kinnardlys' "Be Happy For Me"] 1963 01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:57,233 * * 1964 01:23:02,067 --> 01:23:03,700 - We do have this drone. 1965 01:23:03,767 --> 01:23:06,400 It would be cool to get a drone shot maybe. 1966 01:23:06,467 --> 01:23:07,533 - Yeah. 1967 01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,467 [laughs] 1968 01:23:09,533 --> 01:23:11,600 * * 1969 01:23:11,667 --> 01:23:14,700 - * Don't be sad be glad * 1970 01:23:14,767 --> 01:23:17,800 * Be happy for me * 1971 01:23:17,867 --> 01:23:20,800 * I'll be home come sundown * 1972 01:23:20,867 --> 01:23:24,300 * In the land where I'm free * 1973 01:23:24,367 --> 01:23:27,400 * Though you think you're alone * 1974 01:23:27,467 --> 01:23:30,700 * By your side I will be * 1975 01:23:30,767 --> 01:23:32,667 * Don't be sad * 1976 01:23:32,733 --> 01:23:35,067 * Be happy for me * 1977 01:23:35,100 --> 01:23:37,467 * * 1978 01:23:37,533 --> 01:23:40,067 * And the mountains are high * 1979 01:23:40,100 --> 01:23:43,267 * In the land where I'm free * 1980 01:23:43,333 --> 01:23:46,367 * And they reach for the sky * 1981 01:23:46,433 --> 01:23:48,133 * Like my dreams * 1982 01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:49,700 * Like my dreams * 1983 01:23:49,767 --> 01:23:52,700 * And the sound that I love * 1984 01:23:52,767 --> 01:23:56,067 * Is the song of the sea * 1985 01:23:56,067 --> 01:23:57,800 * Don't be sad * 1986 01:23:57,867 --> 01:23:59,700 * Be happy * 1987 01:23:59,767 --> 01:24:02,800 * Happy for me * 1988 01:24:02,867 --> 01:24:04,867 * *